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Youre right
/r/seduction20/09/18 10:03 PM
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Thsnks
/r/seduction20/09/18 10:03 PM
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I already do this in similar situations and it works great. I should be doing it in this situation aswell but its quite hard to not let insecure emotions conquer my thought process during this situation. Anyway, good advice
/r/seduction20/09/18 10:01 PM
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With ‘i never really struggle with this’ I actually meant ‘this was never really a problem with me until now’. Sorry, english isnt my main language. And you’re right, Im searching for reassurance anonimously because I am insecure as fuck man. I secretly hate my self without even being conscious about it 99% of the time. I know I have to change. Im seeing a therapist they cant do shit because it has to come from ‘within me’ like theu always say. I think I have to mature a little more before I can…
/r/seduction20/09/18 09:56 PM
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Sounds like you allowed yourself to be friendzoned by the other more attractive girls because you thought they were outta your league. That's why they don't make you nervous. You feel like this average Asian girl is attainable. That makes you nervous. That's what I think. Fucking spot on man. Also kind of gives away my insecurities about my self. I allow my self to be friendzoned because I want a couple female friends aswell. Could be cognitive dissonance, but I dont think about it much nor do I…
/r/seduction20/09/18 07:07 PM
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Thanks. Seems logical in a way. Eventhough evey girl is different I kinda need this for reassurance. (I know I sound insecure but Im anonimous rn so idc) I also thought that I would have more trouble solving math when she is helping me because I would be distracted by her presence. Not sure though since I havent reached out to her yet.
/r/seduction20/09/18 07:02 PM
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I never really struggle with this, thats the problem. It only happens when I have sex (obviously), when I get angry, and apparently also when I communicate with girls that I like a little more than most girls. I also immediatly think about it when I feel my skin turning red which makes everything instantly worse. So there’s that. A very difficult problem. I think I would be better off embracing it instead of finding ways to get rid of it because that would most likely make it worse.
/r/seduction20/09/18 06:58 PM
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Dont know probably its me overthinking shit again
/r/seduction16/07/18 09:37 PM
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Okay. And how do I avoid being ambiguity? How do I say ‘you want to cuddle?, and just cuddle, nothing else’ without making it awkward. Hahah
/r/seduction16/07/18 07:50 PM
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I dont see a problem in just iniating cuddeling with her. I just think it seems kind of... odd. If I get rejected it wouldnt even be that big of a deal but I do think that she might think that I want to get in her pants again. How could I avoid her thinking this? I dont even know if she is lying about that guy either. I could have messed up something last weekend but I dont really know what it couldve been. Or maybe she was afraid that I might fall in love with her or something so that could be …
/r/seduction16/07/18 07:40 PM
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Okay. I guess you’re right. I cant help but feel insanely horrible eventhough it wasnt that bad...
/r/seduction30/06/18 02:28 PM
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What do you mean?
/r/seduction30/06/18 12:34 PM
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Yeah but it is strange that she actually set up the meeting everytime. I just went along with it.
/r/seduction10/06/18 04:01 PM
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2 days ago it seemed like she was head over heels with me and right now I am being ignored out of the blue. Atleast fucking tell me that you moved on. And yes, I am a pussy. I cant handle emotions propely lately because of my own mental issues.
/r/seduction10/06/18 12:48 PM
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Then she would be lying in her responses and then she also wouldnt ask for more I think this is it. Hope it is... I video called her 3 times last week. we text occasionally. I try not to text that much since I get the advice from everyone that I shouldnt be texting all day. I use snapchat to keep in touch on those days where you dont text/call. I wish people who ghost would just not do this. This is the first time I’ve been ghosted and u can call me pussy but god this hurts pretty bad.
/r/seduction10/06/18 12:44 PM
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I dont want to end it like this. Shit feels fucked up. Edit: I CANT STAND THE FACT THAT I AM BEING IGNORED. let me just please end this with words and not with me being ghosted. Fuck this shit HURTS.
/r/seduction10/06/18 12:05 PM
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Some stuff you know, but.... negative thoughts create a feedback loop. Thoughts like this can lead to a change in brain chemistry, and a feeling (anxiety, for example). My therapist showed me records of me having anxiety issues back in 2008 when I was 9-10 years old. Over the years I've learnt to set up a more confident personality and that really works. But I still have the same amounts of anxiety in my head. You may already be doing this? In any case, it takes time, but slowly the negative tho…
/r/seduction13/05/18 03:11 AM
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I know, I dont really have trouble with girls who are kinda clear that they are interested. Its always just that first damn step (fear of rejection) that keeps me from pursuing the girls I actually want. After that first sign, or when I think 'oh she is interested' everything is so much easier and feels so much more natural, even with the 2 girls in the past that were actually good looking. I certainly have a low self esteem problem. Negative selftalk and all that stuff and I am already seeing a…
/r/seduction13/05/18 01:29 AM
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I've never done a cold approach in my life because I am afraid of rejection. And it isnt even really about the rejection itself but more of an anxiety about my mind who likes to come up with every single awkward memory I did a hundered times a day (being rejected would be a BIG one of these awkward memory). Im literally just taking the most secure, easiest and laziest way in order to get sex. I have been seeing a therapist and it is clear that I have a self defeading mentality thus resulting in …
/r/seduction13/05/18 01:20 AM
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All the girls I've had sex with where all just randomly met without the intention to have sex in the first place. I just later escalated slowly and it always works but unfortunately these girls are all not really what I consider beautiful. I also dont meet a lot of girls due to my friendgroup/school/job/gym are all heavily dominated by guys. I only talk to a new girl one on one like once every 5 months or so Im actually just having as much sex as I possibly can to gain more experience in seducti…
/r/seduction12/05/18 05:03 PM
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I know man but the first step in seduction is always heavily based on looks. Its just true. My friends are all more attractive than me (they are all considered above to very above average...) so it is quite hard for me to gain attention from other girls when I am hanging out with my friend group.
/r/seduction12/05/18 04:55 PM
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Im not taking any medication but I am getting ritalin for my ADD and oxazepam (benzodiazepine, just like xanax) for my anxiety next week. I've been experimenting with lorazepam and oxazepam a little bit in the past and they both work very well imo. Im not trying to have an serious relationship with this girl though. I just want to gain experience for a future wife. Im probably not gonna find her until I am 25+ or something.
/r/seduction12/05/18 04:53 PM

Whats an outline?
/r/seduction08/03/18 03:32 AM
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How old are you? Lol
/r/seduction19/02/18 01:14 PM
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keep in mind I come from the adult perspective Hey, I have a subreddit for you! r/iamverysmart Dickhead.
/r/seduction19/02/18 01:09 PM
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How far has lying got you with women?
/r/seduction19/02/18 01:05 PM
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Lol he deleted his post already.
/r/seduction19/02/18 12:51 PM
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There is enough evidence, there are a lot of guys who generally look way better with a beard because they have very asymmetrical faces or very narrow/non existent jawliness. Just google around. Your theory has no evidence aswell, and it really sounded like one big load of horse shit.
/r/seduction19/02/18 12:50 PM
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What are you talking about? A beard will have the same effect as sunglasses do. They hide facial features and helps it to make your face appear more symmetrical.
/r/seduction19/02/18 11:18 AM
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You in for an afterparty at my/your/his/her place? Do you want to join us on our after party? You guys having an afterparty? Basically anything related to after parties.
/r/seduction15/02/18 12:07 PM
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Not in my case currently, I always have to set up dates and occassionally ask and we end up meeting anyway
/r/seduction07/02/18 10:15 AM
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Thanks.
/r/seduction11/01/18 11:28 PM
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Thank you. I dont think she wants to see me again and it happened because we were drunk, it was xtc. We texted a couple times (she lives 2 hours away from me) after the sleepover, and she is has a very busy life so we didnt do anything. Anyway, were seeing each other on the next party
/r/seduction11/01/18 06:47 PM
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and she's way out of my league This is a very bad thing to believe. She is not out of your fucking league dude. Almost no one is. I see ugly dudes with hot girls and ugly girls with handsome dudes all the time. Ofcourse the looks will be important for the first couple interactions but once she seems interested then the whole 'league' system you made up in your own head doesn't mean anything. Ask her to hang out again, dont get clingy, think regularly about stuff you can feel confident about (ach…
/r/seduction26/12/17 12:25 PM
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What is IBS exactly? And eventhough I do have a rollercoaster of emotions going on ever since I hit adolescence I didnt exacly meant that. You know that crazy feeling you get in your body when you drop in a rollercoaster, thats kinda what I sometimes feel for a couple of hours just by being sad. Its really really annoying and it reminds me of why I feel miserable.
/r/seduction26/12/17 01:30 AM
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What are the other 7 specific symptons?
/r/seduction26/12/17 01:23 AM
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Its not necessarily my sex life I am insecure about but more of a insecurity with how I look and act. I have dealt with (mild) social anxiety ever since I was 12-13 or something and it has reduced quite a bit after I started lifting at 17. I eventually noticed an increase in confidence which got me a girlfriend. I dont know why but during those couple months I felt a lot less vulnerable towards certain emotions, I could handle my daily stress, anxiety and anger a lot better. After the relationsh…
/r/seduction26/12/17 01:21 AM
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My anxiety is pretty high and I am seeing a psychologist in 2018. Its so weird because I have had this feeling in my gut for some time now. Last weekend I've had a one night stand ( I wanted to connect with the girl but I guess she didnt like me that much when she got sober... ) and I felt happy and fullfilled for 3 days. It slowely turned back to normal and here I am, feeling just as miserable as I felt before that event.
/r/seduction25/12/17 12:48 PM
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When events like these happen there is a lot going around in my head and imo writing stuff down and having multiple people giving opinions about it gives me some clear headspace.
/r/seduction18/12/17 10:39 AM
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Im gonna try to set up something this weekend.
/r/seduction18/12/17 10:36 AM
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I'm gonna kiss her mid date next time I meet her, Would be pretty random to not have kissed her last night but do it out of the blue first time I see her. Also, relationship has begun? Im sure were both just showing mutual interest in each other but nothing really more than that.
/r/seduction18/12/17 10:35 AM
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Pickup skills are just people skills. If you're socially confident, make people laugh, having charisma etc., those are all people skills. They work both on making new friends, or creating intimate relationships. This video is about mental health, and if you train your mind regularly your ability to be healthier mentally will get you the things you want in the long run.
/r/seduction05/12/17 05:36 PM
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I read it all.
/r/seduction01/12/17 10:08 AM
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DUDE LISTEN TO THIS I know exactly how you feel and I have one simple solution: PERFORM ORAL! I actually disliked performing oral on girls at first but oh my god this stuff changed my sex life completely. I had the same problem, hell, I even used viagra the first time I had sex because I was way too nervous. But after that I still had trouble keeping it up because there are way to many thoughts going in my head. What you need to do is FREE YOUR MIND. Let it flow, enjoy each other. Everytime when…
/r/seduction19/11/17 12:55 PM
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Yeah that was my plan
/r/seduction08/11/17 01:08 AM
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interesting, I am trying to get my mindset to 'this is a challenge' instead of thinking 'this is hard' to release some positive emotions.
/r/seduction07/11/17 06:05 PM
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I know I was happy when people corrected my form when I started out because it felt like I was getting to know what I was doing. I don't understand why most people say that correcting form is a bad thing to do. I know if someone corrects my form right now I would get slightly annoyed because I've trained for some time, but for beginners I would imagine that most people are genuinely happy that someone is trying to help them out.
/r/seduction07/11/17 06:03 PM
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I know man, I know. but thats my problem. I dont know 'how' to exactly 'go for it' without being sure that I dont annoy her/creeping her out/making her feel uncomfortable around me.
/r/seduction07/11/17 05:09 PM
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I was thinking about asking her if she'd mind me joining her on an exercise she's been doing wrong. Then do my sets between her sets and try to correct her form when she is done with her set. And then asking her name and ask her if she's new here (she kinda is) and then proceed to introduce myself. Is this a bad idea?
/r/seduction07/11/17 05:06 PM
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I know my body is attractive enough because she'll look at it when I am going for PR's (also had multiple complimenten from other women) and I talk to a lot of people in the gym which kind of displays socialpower. we had eye contact for about 2.5/3 seconds a couple of times (3 seconds is decently long I think) and she does seem to show a bit interested in me by reading her bodylanguage. Ofcourse I can be wrong and all. But she also goes to the free weight area quiet often when I am around (I am …
/r/seduction07/11/17 05:03 PM
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Randomly telling a girl who is working out by her self 'you're doing well' comes of as kinda creepy imo
/r/seduction07/11/17 04:54 PM
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A friend of mine who is very good with girls (he is average looking and even kind of short, but he gets insanely hot girls without much effort) told me it is kind of creepy to start of like that and it will make girls feel even more uncomfortable. He told me to start of by saying hello when I catch her walking in and built my way from there, I havent seen her walking in yet and I want to just initiate by my self. My goal is to have atleast introduced myself by the end of this week.
/r/seduction07/11/17 04:53 PM
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I was thinking about asking if she'd mind if I join her on a machine she's been using and start talking from there, what do you think?
/r/seduction07/11/17 04:22 PM
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Well if this is true then it would be better for me to not do it at all and practice somewhere else because if this fails its kind of embarrasing since my gym is pretty small.
/r/seduction28/10/17 05:50 PM
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"hey, I've seen you around a few times, did you just joint the gym?" This sounds so silly in my own language, for some reason this is always happening when it comes to seduction. It sounds perfectly fine in english but when I try to translate it into my own language it just sounds very.. odd
/r/seduction28/10/17 11:13 AM
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What was your mistake?
/r/seduction28/10/17 10:50 AM
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Well, she didnt ask me to 'seduce' her, she had no idea. My friend just asked me if I could help him to get rid of her. She was probably just looking for sex at the time and while we texted for the first time she happened to notice my body and this is when the seduction between both of us began. I am also glad it ended, it was going nowhere anyway and the girl was actually very bland imo. She was a very simple minded person and we had way more sex than conversations. At first this didnt seem lik…
/r/seduction13/10/17 11:03 AM
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Yeah I guess its called being envious. Its a very negative feeling...
/r/seduction13/10/17 10:08 AM
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Hahah I'm sorry this post made you cringe. This post was just to release builtup feelings and yeah I have been in an only men college for about 6 years right now. 99% of the people I know is a male so that just sets me back. Stop fapping will make feelings worse, I'm just not doing it in the week days but stopping completely literally drives me fucking insane. Stop smoking weed is kinda hard to do because it feels like I am addicted. I have to smoke 1 joint a day for some reason. During the even…
/r/seduction11/10/17 07:42 AM
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You're right man.
/r/seduction11/10/17 07:31 AM
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I have done shrooms 3 times but every time it took me to an insanely pleasurable trip. I've done quite a wide range of drugs (about 16-17) but shrooms has always been the most pleasurable. Its better than mdma imo. But shrooms didnt thaught me shit other than be true to your self and people will be true to you. The real lesson came from doing lsd + 2cb. Only done both 1 time and I combined them. Did it with an experienced tripper who happened to be meditating on relaxing music for an hour. Durin…
/r/seduction11/10/17 07:29 AM
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Only after I took psychedelics a couple of weeks ago I realised/learned a lot about my self. Doesnt matter how 'unmanly' it sounds, I am still a sensitive guy. All emotions ranging from happyness to anger to trust to sadness etc. are just all extremely present. I have anger problems because anger seems to get triggered easily (just like any emotion) but anger causes me to wreck havoc from time to time. This is the reason why I dont call myself exactly 'a sane person'. Other than that, when I get…
/r/seduction10/10/17 04:52 PM
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I smoke too much weed, I am trying to quit doing it everyday. I workout a lot and study quite hard and go out with friend regularly. And nah, fuck tinder, I am looking for a relationship not just hookups. I dont know how to tinder anyway and I am not interested in learning it.
/r/seduction10/10/17 04:10 PM
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I know exactly what you mean, problem is, I dont gain any experience (due to anxiety and not know how to) and its driving me fucking nuts.
/r/seduction10/10/17 04:07 PM
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I just had this experience which doesnt mean anything right now because it feels like I am back to base 1.
/r/seduction10/10/17 04:06 PM
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I really really really appreciate how you took the time to literally respond to everything I've said. I'm a pretty sensitive guy when it comes to emotions (all sorts, I can be VERY happy, energetic, talkactive, smooth, funny or VERY depressed, emotional, anxious, nervous or angry. Its like being extremely introverted and 3 hours later extremely outroverted) I know how to hold them back but sometimes I just need to let go. Thats the reason why I was typing that whole thing in the first place. Jus…
/r/seduction10/10/17 04:04 PM
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Yeah I am currently at my last year doing IT. I absolutely hate it because its very tedious and boring and I am struggeling to make it. The reason why I didnt quit is because of the loss of money that I had already spent on my education and I am probably going to follow a different and higher degree after this. On high school (when I was 12/13/14, that was the last time I had girls in my class) I was always kinda shy at the start (like every guy at that age) but I always ended up being really li…
/r/seduction10/10/17 03:09 PM
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Only have 6 friends to invite. I dont trust the other friends/acquaitances in my house. And it Would be weird to throw a party with one girl in it.
/r/seduction11/09/17 04:01 PM
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Proud of you man, if you already met a girl I would strongly advice you to watch 'based zeus' on youtube. If you follow his advice Im pretty sure you'll end up in a relationship or whatever you want with her in no time. I just asked a friend of mine if he's able to connect me with a girl. He knows a shit ton of girls. Im pretty confident that this could be a proper solution. But still, if I keep doing stuff like this (did this also with my previous relationship) I'm still not learning the whole …
/r/seduction29/08/17 08:15 PM
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It can be as easy as breathing air if you do it enough. But exactly that part is worrying me. I am not talking enough. I am not even talking a bit. Like absolutely zero. Meanwhile all my friends fucking take action and here I am complaining on the internet. There is even a slight chance that this whole topic I just started is going to decrease my confidence even further.
/r/seduction18/08/17 09:34 AM
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Wow, I didn't realise you made the video! Great content man, I'm definitely subscribing and I'm gonna watch a couple more. I strongly believe that guys who have been through the same shit and managed to fix it give the best advice.
/r/seduction15/08/17 10:52 PM
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'I know how to deal with them but end up not dealing with them' hahah god damn. You are me lol. I know how that phonecall feels like. Its the beginning where you tend to put your brain to maximum power because you dont want to fuck up and then after a minute or 2 you just end up rambeling about stuff without worrying too much and boom you're one hour further. Im glad we can experience this, lots of people have it way worse than us. But that doesnt mean we dont have to improve. I wish I had atlea…
/r/seduction15/08/17 05:44 PM
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The one that told me 'live your life like its your frame, everyone that comes into your life comes into your frame, you wouldnt be shy if someone steps into your house, so why would you if someone steps into your frame?' Was pretty inspirational.
/r/seduction15/08/17 05:38 PM
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You're so right about the 'usually when you think you need a girl you cant get one' part. I got my gf when I didnt care for about 2 months straight. Then after that I couldnt get a new one because I was worrying too much. Im gonna watch those youtube videos rn, thanks Edit: just watched the first video, I already knew this information (based zeus is a very good youtube imo that told me this stuff earlier this year). I just cant do anything with it because I dont have anyone to text to :p
/r/seduction15/08/17 04:19 PM
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'Oh and I wanted to tell you that you wear a beautiful dress today, it suits you perfectly!' 'Thanks, thats very kind of you' (Leaves) Doesnt this come off as a bit creepy to just say something and then leave? No booze when going out, then Im not going. Im not that outgoing anyway and I would literally torture my self if I go out sober. Sorry. I will look into that book The only thing thats really 'wrong' with me is that I dont take any actions. This has impact on my self confidence which needs …
/r/seduction15/08/17 04:18 PM
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I know I should put my self more available, I just dont know how. I've also heard of the term 'wingman' but I dont know really what that means. Im gonna look it up after writing this. How do you put yourself out there? I also should mention that I have mild social anxiety, but this is all in my own head because I dont act like I have it and people never notice it even when I tell them, which I rarely ever do. Its the same as having fear for heights, getting nervous as shit before entering a roll…
/r/seduction15/08/17 01:51 PM
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Yeah, I'm definitely stuck. I know that a girl will come around eventually, and it will probably happen when I don't crave it or think about it. I've heard a lot of guys my age tend to get girls easily trough instagram... now I dont really want to make an instagram account just to get intouch with a wide range of girls, but I dont know.
/r/seduction15/08/17 11:34 AM
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Well, speaking from experience, all the jealousy and cravings goes away when I find some one. I was into my ex girlfriend only AFTER having sex for 5 weeks straight. But just the feeling of having a girl who would listen and I would listen to, and basically having that whole experience, made me feel so fullfilling. It was the fact that this girl was the first one I did everything with (literally from my first real hug and kiss to every sex position you could imagine) made me fall in love. This p…
/r/seduction15/08/17 10:55 AM
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Yeah, I basically do nothing and thats my problem. I dont know how. I am really not a club/bar person. I actually have been to the club last weekend but before we get there I get a bit nervous and I drink it away, resulting in me drinking way to much and not remembering a lot. I have made an account on OkCupid (yeah I know, its not the best way to meet girls but I dont know what to do...) and this shit doesnt work aswell. Probably because there are thousands of guys messaging every single women …
/r/seduction15/08/17 10:48 AM
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Thanks, the reason why I am supressing these emotions is because I do know that guys who are the same as me go very desperate in finding a girl and eventually making a fool of them selves. You know what I mean. I've heard that 'getting a girlfriend' is a supplement to an already good life, and that you should fix your own problems first before thinking about getting a girl. I am basically already living a good life, good education, a job, a large amount of lovable friends. I just need to meet gi…
/r/seduction15/08/17 10:44 AM
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Do you have a video for me where a man approaches a girl the right way according to you? Im a noob at seduction but Im trying to learn it. Most of these approaches seemed a bit of out place to me. Can you give me other examples
/r/seduction02/07/17 03:20 PM
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Thanks, Im gonna check it out. My goal for right now is just to get some girl thats from my own league or even a bit below, I just need to find the courage and the right moment. Anyway, I NEED to work on this so I have to get out of my comfortzone and get my experience up and confidence will follow. Right?
/r/seduction26/06/17 09:15 PM
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I know. Im just doubting my own lack of experience thus creating approach anxiety.
/r/seduction24/06/17 10:39 AM
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Yeah I just want to meet new girls and find a nee gf
/r/seduction24/06/17 10:38 AM
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How does that exactly work? Can I just delete it and get it back after a period of time? I think I might consider doing that since the pictures have my fucking face in it Oh and btw: If I just block her right away before she/he even tells me about blackmailing me, wouldn't that be better? Edit: she can't find me on fb so easily anymore, changed all my settings to private
/r/seduction19/04/17 09:17 PM
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Yeah I am already hooking up with people in person, but I thought I should give this one a try and yeah it is pretty fucking stupid. Btw have I already told you that my face was in some shots?.. I think I should temporarly delete my facebook account then. Dont want my family to see me naked with a boner. Fuck.
/r/seduction19/04/17 09:15 PM
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Okay, well lessons learned I guess. Probably going to learn it the hard way.
/r/seduction19/04/17 04:41 PM
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PM'd you
/r/seduction19/04/17 04:38 PM
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Okay, thanks for your comment
/r/seduction19/04/17 04:38 PM

I've been facetiming with them and they've listened to my orders. So it was live and not pre recorded
/r/seduction19/04/17 04:34 PM
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Try meditation, nofap, diet and exercise. These 4 things change your LIFE. Its hard, its tough, but its a chance. And if you feel like shit, at some point you're willing to do anything in order to make you feel better. Been there, done that. I literally went from an 4.5/10 to an 8/10 doing these things.
/r/seduction19/04/17 04:27 PM
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I agree with you on that man. When a girl is confidently telling me to come over at her place gets me hard on an instant.
/r/seduction19/04/17 03:27 PM
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One of the biggest influences in a low self-confidence is regret. DONT HAVE REGRET. Its way worse than just fucking up. Regret makes the situation way waaaaay worse than it already is. You are feeding this negative thought in your brain all the time, why are you doing this? Stop doing that and stop having regret. Instead, be proud, you managed to impress her, so why can't you just move on to the next similair social situation and do it again. And if you fail this time, don't have regret and be p…
/r/seduction19/04/17 03:13 PM

I guess you're a girl am I right? I've always found nudes weird aswell, they do not really turn me on but it was more of a 'building some self-esteem' thing. Live camming is another story though.
/r/seduction19/04/17 03:07 PM
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Woops it looks like I am complaining in the 'I am not complaining' part lol
/r/seduction19/04/17 03:05 PM
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