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This is the inherent problem with these kinds of studies: their data is surveyed. The golden rule of surveyed data is that responses must be credible. Except we all know from experience here that what women say and what women do don’t add up. Then how in the world can a survey of women be credible? As someone who works in the actuarial field, I feel comfortable saying that I understand the basic principles of statistics. Most people immediately turn to the p-values and methodology when criticizi…
/r/TheRedPill10/11/23 03:34 AM
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Yup, remember even by saying that you’re doing her a favor, so that’s nice of you. But you need to block right after. No waiting for a reply and continuing the conversation. Remember that women know exactly how to push our buttons. She will use every ounce of her strength to keep it going. That text is perfect. Block, and immediately begin rebuilding your frame and sense of self, then start spinning plates. You’ll get back in your groove in no time.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 06:08 AM
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Usually in this scenario one of three things happen. a) she laughs it off and doesn’t make a big deal out of it. she has nothing to hide and this is indicative of telling the truth and it genuinely being a thing where she forgot to delete it b) she cries, begs, and pleads for you to forgive her. this is also more uncommon and is generally a sign she really doesn’t want to lose you—but simultaneously a sign she doesn’t respect you. Usually means she wants you purely for emotional support and reso…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 05:26 AM
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There’s nothing heinously wrong with it, but I do find it kinda cringe when straight people referring to other straight people say this. If you’re ever even slightly unsure of anyone you should use partner. But it just sounds so sterilized and PC when straight people say it. Like Jesus Christ why are you so scared to offend someone, just call it what it is. It reeks of ‘wokeness.’ To me this is like replacing ‘my job’ with ‘the method that I use to make money’ in a sentence.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 05:36 PM
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I specifically said clubs or bars don’t count. When women get drunk their standard behavior goes out the window. Hell I’ve had women walk up and grab my cock after midnight at a bar, as if that isn’t SA. I’m talking about sober in day to day life.
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 12:01 AM
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Where? When? Give me specific examples. I’m not saying it never happens. I’m saying you can’t expect it to happen.
/r/AllPillDebate04/11/23 08:07 PM
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Can’t learn what you think you already know. But it’s clear that you black pillers don’t actually want your mind changed, you just want to feel sorry for yourself. Meh, no harm no foul. If that’s what you want then fine, just don’t spread your objectively false beliefs to the greater community and try to pass it off as gospel.
/r/AllPillDebate04/11/23 08:00 PM
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I’m the one trying to help you sleep at night. You’re the one who won’t accept reality.
/r/AllPillDebate04/11/23 07:26 PM
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Nope. You’re wrong. I do have Chad friends. I’m not vain enough to call myself Chad but I’m 100% attractive. You don’t have the life experience to back up what you’re saying. I do. I’m telling you that I’ve lived this and you’re wrong. You just won’t accept another worldview, and guess what, you’ll be miserable and sexless until you try something else. How can you explain ugly dudes with hot girlfriends? How can you explain how I’ve watched with my own eyes one of my ugly, broke friends make out…
/r/AllPillDebate04/11/23 05:52 PM
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Basically everyone who fails with women consistently on Reddit thinks they’re an incel. They refuse to accept it has something to do with something within their control. Classic defeatism, just manifesting in a new way. What they truly need first is to accept some of this is their fault. You can’t learn something you think you already know.
/r/AllPillDebate04/11/23 05:23 PM
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In what world do you see women approaching attractive men? Other than a bar when they’re piss drunk. That shit rarely ever happens. Stop lying to yourself. Do you have any actual real world evidence to back that up? Because I have tons of experience to back up what I’m saying. Inb4 ‘well if you were REALLY attractive she’d approach you.’ No. I am attractive and I have attractive friends, some of which are even better looking than me. I’d call a couple of them chads. Women NEVER approach us when …
/r/AllPillDebate04/11/23 05:06 PM
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Just how ugly are you? Like I want to see a picture. I’ll tell you right here and now if you’re too ugly to attract women. Bc I’ve seen some ugly dudes in LTRs with hot women.
/r/AllPillDebate04/11/23 04:51 PM
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Based. I completely agree with every word you said. While some black pillers are truly so ugly it’s hopeless, which is unfortunate, most have no idea what the fuck they’re doing socially. They seem ‘normal enough’ to get women if they were ‘more attractive’ on Reddit, until you meet one in person and realize they seriously have NO idea what’s going on socially. They don’t try, they lie to themselves and say they try. They think women should just walk up to them and offer them their pussy, as if …
/r/AllPillDebate04/11/23 04:50 PM
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That’s not how women work. The correct way to say this is ‘if she’s attracted to you, you won’t have to beg for her attention. She will willingly give it up,’ not ‘if you have to approach you’re fucked.’ Women don’t engage in attraction dynamics the same way men do. Women see it as the man’s responsibility to engage. They have hundreds of dudes swarming them, some of which are attractive. Why would they pick you to approach? They get plenty of attention as is. That’s why you need to make your pr…
/r/AllPillDebate04/11/23 04:45 PM
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Honestly, it doesn’t matter. If you were convinced enough to swallow your pride and come to this sub of all places to genuinely ask, you already know what happened. Sac her and hit up one of the plates on the back burner. If you don’t have a backup (she did, the whole time), you fucked up. But that’s okay though - we all do sometimes. If you’re living the other RP principles still, get out there and spin some plates. If you’re not, hop over to the sidebar and relearn what you need to know then d…
/r/TheRedPill04/11/23 03:45 PM
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The ‘mainstream’ red pill is mostly a sham. The red pill content in the sidebar of the subreddit is indisputable truth. I know - I’ve changed my life with TRP. I see things so much differently. I will admit to you I’m not ugly. But it helped me be successful with women. The black pill does have some truth- it’s just that I don’t take it as gospel. I also don’t take everything in TRP as gospel. I try to decide what I believe based on my own experiences.
/r/AllPillDebate02/11/23 05:42 PM
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Eh, you’re underplaying what the black pill says and overplaying what the red pill says. Classic bias. TRP NOWHERE states that gaining women’s attraction is effortless. It takes attempt after attempt after attempt after attempt, along with a complete overhaul of your lifestyle and manhood. The blackpill doesn’t just say that looks matter. That’s what the red pill partially says. You’re implying that the black pill is a subset of the red pill. The black pill says that looks are EVERYTHING, and wi…
/r/AllPillDebate02/11/23 05:17 PM
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And I’m sure they all hate themselves, because every field you listed (maybe aside from software engineer) is known as one of the unhappiest fields you can work in. Not every field develops that quickly either. As an actuary, it takes far more work to be credentialed than any field you listed. But your earning potential after ~10 YOE is up to 500k. It’s also one of the least stressful and ‘happiest’ jobs out there. Let’s say my assumptions were all wrong. What is the purpose of making money if y…
/r/TheRedPill31/10/23 05:11 PM
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You’re misunderstanding the meaning of power in this context. You’re right about how power isn’t everything. What you need to append to that is her PERCEPTION of your power is everything.
/r/TheRedPill31/10/23 04:55 PM
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It seems like in this sub, when posts are huge misses people praise the post and when they’re hits people criticize the hell out of it. I’m a contrarian naturally and try to look at it both ways, and I assert that this is a quality post. I think this is because the subreddit itself has attracted blackpillers and incels who feel like they belong here when they really don’t, at least until they wake up. People are missing the point- it does not fucking matter if she was lying. Women lie. What matt…
/r/TheRedPill31/10/23 04:53 PM
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Oh my bad. I was working earlier and checked Reddit not paying attention. Yeah that dude is a cornball. By his logic, someone who ‘makes more than 150k a year’ (why 150k? Lmao) is more valuable to a woman than someone more handsome, funnier, smarter, stronger, more responsible, less of a pushover, more caring, more entertaining, more emotionally stable. But nah 150k a year makes women want you. That dude definitely pays for sex and brags to women about how rich he is. I’d bet money Andrew Tate i…
/r/TheRedPill31/10/23 01:11 AM
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That is demonstrably false. You understand absolutely nothing about the redpill, and if you think that then frankly you don’t belong here. In fact, that is by definition a beta male way of thinking. You’re just mad cuz your post is shit and you’re uneducated, and someone called you out on it. Stop being a snowflake and a beta. When’s the last time you had sex? Be honest. Spending your money that you probably inherited doesn’t count either.
/r/TheRedPill30/10/23 05:20 PM
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I’m fresh out of college dork. Name one fresh college grad who makes 150k a year, I’ll wait. I’m in one of if not the best profession in the world. That’s beside the point though since it seems like you’re angy I criticized your post. Don’t post on a sub about RP philosophy if you don’t know RP philosophy. You’re in the wrong place. Read the sidebar and learn the basics or leave. You aren’t gaylubeoil. You don’t become gaylubeoil by waking up and deciding you know everything. Get humble, and btw…
/r/TheRedPill30/10/23 12:25 PM
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You can be exceptional and not make reckless decisions. You seem to be thinking they’re mutually exclusive. Also sounds like you know nothing about statistics, but that’s beside the point. Stop promoting your shitty website and read the sidebar.
/r/TheRedPill29/10/23 08:59 AM
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Great answer. It’s a tricky game of deciding when and when not to display vulernability. Of course that results in men not ever vocalizing what they want to—but it’s just how women work. They want to know you’re not a complete robot but also want to know that you’re not a bitch. It’s a constant balancing act.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 04:13 PM
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Your world view isn’t just skewed, it’s incorrect. Humans, of all animals, are the least driven by animalistic desires by far. We have self-awareness, consciousness, the capability to feel empathy. Yes people can be predictable, but I’m certain that you are succumbing to confirmation bias. You conveniently ignore the situations where people don’t fit your world view and magnify the situations where they do.
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 02:41 AM
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But they are? Not every woman but a staggering proportion. What gym do you go to where they’re so pure? I’m talking about a college gym. Don’t act like this doesn’t happen you and I both know it’s true
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 12:26 PM
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Nah I go to the gym and he’s 100% right, there is no practical reason to be dressed like that
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 06:06 PM
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You can say the same thing about any activity—grocery store, coffee shop, the park, etc. the thing is women want nothing more than to be hit on during these things but only by a man they want to fuck. The key is to be the man they want to fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 07:08 PM
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Don’t listen to most of these garbage replies. Stick to RP principles and make this work, your situation is exceedingly rare. Check out MRP, your relationship is far from being unsalvageable.
/r/TheRedPill20/10/23 05:30 PM
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If you don’t understand “apologize for him” then frankly you’re not qualified to speak on the quality of the post.
/r/TheRedPill20/10/23 04:29 AM
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I’m definitely more on the RP side, but height isn’t everything. It’s just another attractive quality. There are waaaaaaaaaay too many 5’6-5’10 guys with hot girlfriends. I might’ve believed this before college or if I was out of touch in my 40s, but being out of college 6 months or so, I can tell you that I saw that all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 03:19 AM
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Don’t lock your knees doing leg press either. In fact, don’t leg press unless your form is perfect. I’ve seen someone almost shatter their knees from locking them pressing 300+ pounds, which isn’t even that much.
/r/TheRedPill09/10/23 03:07 AM
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I was RP before RP had a name. Starting around 16. It is definitely 99% true. I’ve had a lot of success with women though.
/r/AllPillDebate07/10/23 07:32 PM
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If by dopamine fasting you mean using a CBT technique to reflect on your actions and behavior then I think that’s great. There’s no such thing as ‘resetting your dopamine levels’ or a magic trick that comes with depriving yourself of dopamine inducing activity. That is a myth.
/r/TheRedPill07/10/23 07:19 PM
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I stopped reading when you said “choose how you spend your dopamine” the fuck is this shit
/r/TheRedPill07/10/23 05:15 AM
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This is the ultimate female fantasy. You’re right that some men would fulfill it, but some of us aren’t like that. I’M the prize for women. They need to prove to me that they’re worth my time and effort. Just being hot isn’t enough, there are millions of hot women. The thing about me personally is I’m completely fulfilled and happy being alone. If a woman wants my company she’s welcome to it but I’ll be fine without it, I genuinely enjoy being by myself. In fact most women are kind of annoying a…
/r/AllPillDebate07/09/23 03:52 AM
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What the fuck did you just get unbanned or something? 17 days? Get a fucking life nerd holy shit you need pussy horrendously bad
/r/TheRedPill04/09/23 02:58 PM
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The majority of Reddit users have shared opinions. Just look at any mega-sub like r/pics or r/news, it’s always the same thing restated. Be a nice guy because you’re privileged for being a man, trump bad, corporations bad, Europe is perfect, atheism is the best belief. All of them seem to work in IT or retail. The people who post on subs like these (‘dissenting’ subs, such as r/trueunpopularopinion among others) don’t prefer to interact with the vast majority of the website and so naturally we’r…
/r/AllPillDebate01/09/23 03:16 AM
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It’s not though. There are intricacies that go beyond direct speech in social interaction. You know who only uses their words and can only be communicated with by words? Aspy’s. Or those who can’t detect social cues. Speech and communication go hand-in-hand but are far from synonymous with eachother. If it was as simple as “Adults use their words” there would be no existence of non-verbal communication or behavioral analysis. You’re just upset because direct speech is the only way you can interp…
/r/AllPillDebate25/08/23 02:10 AM
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Men and women don’t communicate the same way. That’s just how the world works and how it always will work. If you don’t like it then don’t talk to women.
/r/AllPillDebate24/08/23 04:58 PM
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Possibly false indicators of attraction: being polite smiling during conversation offering a favor listening intently Actual indicators of attraction: sustained eye contact especially from afar laughing even at things you say that aren’t funny constantly checking her appearance such as hair making excuses to be near you or in your line of sight constantly It’s really not that complicated, most guys are just fucking stupid
/r/AllPillDebate23/08/23 04:50 PM
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I see you adjusted your inputs
/r/TheRedPill20/08/23 06:42 AM
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Are you an account powered by machine learning?
/r/TheRedPill20/08/23 05:27 AM
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What In the fuck is up with your profile bro
/r/TheRedPill19/08/23 03:20 AM
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First encounter is extremely cringe to read, but like you said, it seems like you bounce back well. Don’t overthink interactions, some basic RP fundamentals are that if she’s into you it will be extremely obvious. Like you described in your second encounter, it was blatantly obvious they were enjoying themselves talking to you. Sounds like you creeped out the first chick a little bit but that’s naturally gonna happen when learning how to talk to women. Don’t give up just bc you don’t get replies…
/r/TheRedPill18/08/23 03:02 AM
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Brother this dude is deep down the rabbit hole. He’s angy because people won’t read his incl manifesto. As for what you say, I agree and that’s an elegant way to put it.
/r/TheRedPill18/08/23 02:50 AM
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Damn you’re one of those dudes who doesn’t know what to say so he scours your profile trying to find anything he can to make you look bad? I make 62k a year 2 months out of college in a field with earning potential of 200k+, one which (most likely) you’re a little too retarded to understand. Don’t know where you get I have a small penis? Sounds like you’re projecting I can assure you 100 percent without question that I’m twice as attractive as you are, if not more, because only dweebs who look l…
/r/TheRedPill18/08/23 02:47 AM
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Shut up about your black pill nonsense. It’s so tiring. This is a sub to learn how to get laid and make yourself better. All you’re doing in these comments is whining and complaining, no wonder women won’t touch you. Jesus
/r/TheRedPill17/08/23 12:52 AM
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Why the fuck do you keep reposting this garbage and more importantly why are the mods allowing this? What the fuck happened to this sub? Brother you are not GLO sit the fuck down and read the sidebar
/r/TheRedPill17/08/23 12:51 AM
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No, he’s spot the fuck on. This is blue pill nonsense. You never prove yourself to a woman, she proves herself to YOU. You’ve already proven yourself by simply existing, if your frame is right and your life is in order, that’s all you need to do.
/r/TheRedPill13/08/23 02:59 PM
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Oof yeah this is extremely BP (the need to “win her over from the douchebag”) and also simply PRETENDING not to care, not actually not caring. RP would be taking that waitress home and blocking her number.
/r/TheRedPill13/08/23 02:56 PM
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I’ve got a much simpler solution that actually is RP (unlike this): If she’s your plate, simply phone up your next in line plate and drop her. Kick her out of rotation, and replace her with a new plate later. If you don’t have another plate, then you failed basic principles of RP. Start over. If she’s your girlfriend, you failed basic principles of RP, which is to vet ANY LTR heavily. You failed in your vetting process. Start over.
/r/TheRedPill13/08/23 01:15 AM
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Fair criticism, I guess what I mean is someone sharing their experiences at that age could be an unreliable narrator to those reading also around his age. They shouldn’t take his word for law. Folks with more experience can appreciate this post though as it’s a peek into the mind of a young man today and those folks will appreciate how his experience will mold and change over time.
/r/TheRedPill11/08/23 06:11 PM
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Stopped reading when you said you were 20 and implied that you have a wealth of experience. What you need to do is read the sidebar and slowly start integrating changes into your own life, taking focus off of women. Then live your life and gain experiences.
/r/TheRedPill11/08/23 02:12 AM
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Both women and men have their own equivalent and respective struggles. The reason men gain value with age is because what women value and what men value aren’t the same. Women value someone who can help keep their fantasies and lack of control in check, which is achieved through stability and security. That’s the main reason women rely on men. Men on the other hand value looks and loyalty, among other things. I will agree that value isn’t guaranteed with age, but a man that seized opportunities …
/r/TheRedPill04/08/23 03:07 AM
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This is basic sidebar material. It’s blatantly obvious that while men gain value through age, women lose it after a certain point in their life. It only economically makes sense that the woman lacks leverage in choosing a partner as she ages, thus being forced to settle to avoid isolation. Men tend to be much more comfortable with loneliness while women are not. If push comes to shove a woman will eventually settle if it means not risking being alone as the leverage she had in her 20s is gone, a…
/r/TheRedPill03/08/23 04:17 AM
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Allllll this just to state the blatantly obvious. Yes guys can be creepy. What you listed were good examples.
/r/TheRedPill21/07/23 04:56 AM
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Therapy is kinda bullshit. Unless you suffer from PTSD or some other emotional trauma or mental illness. Just going to therapy to go is pointless though. I know because my doctor forces me to get therapy in conjunction with my ADHD medicine. She knows that’s why I’m there but she even asked me at the end of the first appointment, what do you want out of this exactly? And I said I don’t know.. maybe we can find things to dig in to as we talk more. But frankly it’s just a waste of money, I like my…
/r/AllPillDebate11/07/23 08:02 PM
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Brother…. I know for sure you’re not a pedo. But for Christ’s sake take a hint man, you shouldn’t even bring up the fact girls write you those letters, you KNOW the presumption will be the man somehow approves of it. Like just stop bringing it up or mentioning it it’s not difficult. That’s what’s causing those reactions, not the mere fact you’re a substitute teacher.
/r/MensRights11/07/23 11:33 AM
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What
/r/AllPillDebate16/06/23 03:38 PM
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This is so blatantly not true and I’m not even black pill lmao
/r/AllPillDebate16/06/23 03:37 PM
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Yeah and I need a safety layer on my cock before I even get close to these hoes
/r/MensRights24/05/23 05:38 AM
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????? This is even MORE telling of OPs point, I don’t think you know how numbers work
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 05:29 PM
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Fucking hell yes I am and my town is insane. There are a total of three groups since there was a mass exodus from the first, then the second had its rules changed so people couldn’t massively flame eachother so those people went to the third. But still people break that rule on the second and hope the mods don’t see it, then they make posts every week explaining that flaming isn’t allowed. It’s insane, full of political propaganda and people blatantly tagging each other in their insulting posts.…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 05:22 PM
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Is there something then that differentiates the college-aged population of women from others, besides age itself and life experience? Because while there were some clowning on her, about half were attacking any criticism of her behavior. So that’s why I asked about you reading the title, because my first-hand experience seems to contradict what you’re saying. In other words, it could just you’re projecting your own opinion on the matter as the opinion of “most women,” when in reality a shocking …
/r/MensRights06/05/23 03:57 AM
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Did you read my title?
/r/MensRights05/05/23 05:31 PM
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Not trying to question dodge, but it is difficult to prove that something does not exist. A better question would be to ask, why do you think it DOES exist? I will listen, although I won’t be on here again til tomorrow.
/r/MensRights05/05/23 12:20 AM
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I share your sentiment completely. In fact, down to the letter, this is exactly how I feel. That’s why (despite being a solid 7-8) I have completely removed myself from the dating landscape. Im so much happier this way, just complete acceptance.
/r/MensRights04/05/23 11:39 PM
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This is certainly the reason. The more important question to ask is why? Why has it come to this? My answer is NEW AGE feminism. Classical feminism was a noble movement for true justice for women. But this bastardized version is something bordering on evil IMO. This is one of the many byproducts.
/r/MensRights04/05/23 11:37 PM
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I’m not denying that the patriarchy used to exist. I have always said that classical feminism I am a proponent of for the reasons you listed. I maintain though that it doesn’t exist anymore, and it’s now become a bastardized scapegoat to elevate women to a degree of power over men. That’s where I draw the line, I do NOT believe in “retroactive retaliation,” I.e. it happened to us so now you have to experience what we did. That is what new age feminism stands for, and the REAL reason she reacted …
/r/MensRights04/05/23 11:36 PM
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I have to wonder how you’d do period (no offense). That’s a VERY hard stance to maintain and be successful unless you are deeply involved with religious organizations
/r/MensRights04/05/23 11:33 PM
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I completely agree and get your sentiment. I understand why these reactions occur, I’m just ashamed that this stuff actually exists.
/r/MensRights04/05/23 11:29 PM
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I genuinely do think a reaction to this degree is rare, and most wouldn’t react THIS bad. What got me though is all the people in the comments halfway-defending this girl, and any valid criticism was IMMEDIATELY met with rationalization bc of the patriarchy.
/r/MensRights04/05/23 11:26 PM
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Wonderfully said lmao. You really just have to play that game because while Im not incel, I certainly don’t respect most modern women, because they do nothing but show me they don’t deserve respect. The moment I think they’re different they just can’t help but accidentally show me their true colors. AND THEN EXPECT ME TO BE OK WITH IT BC SHES A WOMAN. It reminds me of the scenario women’s bday so what do you have planned for me honey? A, b, c, d… man’s bday what do you have planned for me honey?…
/r/MensRights04/05/23 11:22 PM
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Nah it’s definitely real, the guy originally didn’t post pictures but after many people were flaming him he posted screenshots as proof
/r/MensRights04/05/23 11:18 PM
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Yik Yak is an anonymous app for talking to people in your geocached area. This was posted by someone else, I.e. I have no idea who he is or who she is, only that they live near me. But to entertain that; let’s be honest, literally nothing would happen and at worst she would retaliate and ruin your reputation. It’s better to block and save all texts just in case she accuses you of something.
/r/MensRights04/05/23 10:11 PM
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yeah my move would be to screenshot all texts and immediately block
/r/MensRights04/05/23 09:30 PM
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This would never happen because it goes against man’s very nature. I think a better question would be, what would happen if the majority of men gained sexual discipline and stopped playing into new-age feminism? In that case, men and women would be back on an even playing field as both would equally desire each other for different reasons.
/r/AllPillDebate04/05/23 09:00 PM
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This is sad. Your apology will be taken as an admission of guilt though. Never apologize for something you didn’t do, ever. Deny vehemently and gather evidence. Release it publicly if you have to.
/r/MensRights02/05/23 03:05 PM
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Anti-new age feminism isn’t misogyny. It’s a fundamental disagreement with the new age of feminism, which stands for all but the outright persecution of men. Honestly, even though there are some straight up incels in this sub, it is one of the few places where I feel like men who have separated from the new cultural landscape have a voice. It makes sense that Reddit hates it, as we all know Reddit is hyper-liberal and pro-censorship (but only for things that go against their narrative).
/r/MensRights30/04/23 10:55 PM
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I have had plenty of GFs and sex but I’m actually with you. I have put ZERO effort into dating over the last 2-3 years (I’m 26). The dating landscape is no longer worth my time. I won’t go into detail why but I’m sure you know why. I’ve never been happier focusing on myself, my spirituality, my goals, and trying to help others along the way. Intimate relationships are not a necessity to be happy. Anyone who thinks they are, are lost and need direction in their life.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 10:47 PM
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how so? Be specific
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 10:44 PM
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Wow this is just blatantly false. You have no idea what RP actually teaches. I can direct you to the actual teachings if you want. New and angry followers latching on to their false view of an ideology ≠ the true teachings of the ideology. That’s like saying christian extremists represent what Christ himself actually taught.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 10:37 PM
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There’s a very fine line between mate-guarding and jealousy. Mate-guarding is a form of concern for your partner while jealousy is an evil emotion derived from fear.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 11:43 AM
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It’s kind of funny you unintentionally are proving RP philosophy here lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 10:06 PM
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I don’t think you know what bro code even means
/r/AllPillDebate23/04/23 09:10 PM
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Every single one of those things can be explained by a more probable explanation. This is why we defer to what is known as Occam’s Razor.* What you’re doing is considering all these events to have a single cause which is a RIDICULOUSLY improbable statement. Further you supply no actual evidence of your 4th and 5th claims. The amount of statistical evidence it would take to support that claim is so massive that it’s almost zero chance. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. I asked …
/r/MensRights08/04/23 06:37 PM
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Oh okay. Well clearly you don’t have a good grasp on the depths of incel-dom. These people would never consider your opinon to be of value. There is nothing you can do except ignore black-pillers and hope they change one day. I can assure you this post hasn’t reached its target audience.
/r/AllPillDebate08/04/23 06:31 PM
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You think this simple post, among hundreds of other highly detailed threads on this sub and ppd, is going to get an incel to change their worldview? Just telling them it’s not nice?
/r/AllPillDebate08/04/23 04:28 AM
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Im not sure if you get what I’m saying. Youre projecting outrage about something blatantly obvious. Yes, obviously those terms are so derogatory that only an incel would say them. Your entire post boils down to asking a meaningless question. Incels are just incels.
/r/AllPillDebate08/04/23 04:06 AM
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This might be the biggest strawman I’ve ever seen in my life
/r/AllPillDebate08/04/23 03:46 AM
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Please elaborate on any, and I mean any significant evidence you have supporting this lmao
/r/MensRights07/04/23 11:21 PM
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Then what actually do you say we should do? You’re pointing out and complaining about a problem but offering nothing to address it.
/r/MensRights07/04/23 11:20 PM
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“The people that do that are already in circles where they’d date said people” is begging the question. How does one make the choice to date someone like that? It’s circular logic and doesn’t really explain anything
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 10:58 PM
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That’s the paradox though. A strong man would be best suited to handle their BS, but a strong man simultaneously would never invest his time into them. A weak man will accept it but deep down wish it wasn’t a thing. But he will regardless settle for her bc while he can’t stand it deep down, he knows it’s his only option.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 10:51 PM
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I would consider it if she passed all my gut checks (good relationship with parents, kind to strangers/workers, doesn’t complain often, isn’t addicted to social media, no unaddressed/unmedicated mental illness, etc). However if the n count was ridiculous that still might be a deal breaker, there’s a point where complete change kinda isn’t possible. Finally if she is or was ever an OF model it would be hard no from me. No disrespect, it’s her life, but I just couldn’t date someone who sold their …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 10:45 PM
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I think what you’re relaying is more of Jordan Peterson’s ideals than Tate’s. I have to say I think Tate is the great value version of Peterson. Tate is basically a personality, a shell of a human who feeds on attention. Peterson had genuinely interesting viewpoints that I surprisingly tend to agree with. What you’re talking about is similar to what he does. But I think to say what you posted is a reflection of Tate’s beliefs misses the mark.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 01:53 PM
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The version of feminism you’re describing and the feminism in place today are two completely, wildly different things that happen to share the same inaccurate name.
/r/MensRights05/04/23 11:06 PM
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I agree with what you’re saying so I think there’s some misinterpretation from me not being specific. Yes, women are into men with a lot of other women interested in him. Not a man who is friendzoned by multiple women. I do think our sentiments align I just didn’t explain mine very well.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 06:13 PM
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I actually completely disagree with this. Women care quite a bit about other women’s actions and I’ll go even farther and say their decisions are, for better or worse, dependent on the actions and decisions of other women. It’s well-known that women are into someone who knows a lot of women. That’s because they know that if those women want to be around him, he isn’t dangerous or scary and maybe even good in bed. Likewise if a guy is harshly shunned by women, there isn’t a chance in hell you he …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 08:12 AM
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And? You answered quite literally none of those valid concerns. No correlation studies, and no adjustments for unreported cases. Those make a huge difference in this statistic. But most importantly nothing and I mean nothing you shared implies women behave like they do towards men because of that data. Do you understand statistics? I am a mathematician so I notice these major flaws in thinking more obviously. I’m genuinely asking if you understand statistics. Bc I’d be happy to elaborate.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 12:55 PM
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My first true relationship (long term and after many short term “high school” relationships) was at 17, and let me tell you I was a shell of a man during that time (or teen but still). I was always nitpicking her behavior and very controlling. In the end this deep deep cowardice ruined our relationship. I later got into another relationship my first year at college and while far more functional, some of the same occurred, but my addiction at the time is actually what ruined the relationship. I t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 09:54 PM
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Not quite. Only the violence statistics are shown. That doesn’t imply women’s behavior is due to men. Further I’m just taking your word that’s an actual statistic since you didn’t give a source. It also AFAIK doesn’t adjust for unreported cases, since it’s well known women often don’t get charged with violent crimes; it’s because it’s implied to be the man causing issues, due to assuming women can’t commit such a crime. Even if we assume it’s true and adjusted for the non reporting of women’s vi…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 09:11 PM
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Then what is the point of the violence statistic? You replied to me. I said to detach ourselves from women’s problems. Then you said 95% of violent crimes are committed by men. In what way is that relevant? You stated a premise with no conclusion. I can only assume that’s some sort of strawman.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 08:03 PM
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Please elaborate on how it’s a moral responsibility, because according to women, men perpetuate these problems with an inappropriate involvement in women’s lives. It makes the most sense to detach yourself from these issues. At some point you need to realize that nothing you do will ease their issues. That is something women need to resolve themselves. If you are constantly reminded of these issues when trying to connect with women then you’re not connecting with women correctly. Why would a wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 02:04 PM
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How is that relevant in any way? Edit: when we want to chime in on women's issues women say men's advice is irrelevant because they're not a woman. When we want to remove ourselves from your issues you have another problem. L0l
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 10:45 PM
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Please just detach yourself from women’s problems. My life is so much simpler without all of that chatter. You’ll be happier and actually capable of thinking for yourself too, which you’re clearly not here.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 06:54 PM
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Then you clearly have never lived as a man. Depressed, lazy, and unmotivated men don’t sleep with many attractive women. You are describing self-discipline from a woman’s perspective. Self-control and abstaining from short-term gratification; which is abstaining from the easy-to-obtain gratification of hooking up with a man. *yes, when referring to Unattractive women, I’d say it’s undisciplined and lazy to sleep with the easiest to obtain women. You don’t seem to realize what actually goes into …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 05:22 PM
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I’m not sure if you know how they work. The log-likelihood and corresponding p values indicate a very poor representation of this survey-driven data in both of their presented models. They are drawing conclusions off of very little evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 05:14 PM
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The log likelihoods and corresponding (lack of) low p-values suggest an awful fit for this data in both models. In other words this study seems like hogwash.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 05:13 PM
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That’s not what I said. I said it takes discipline to sleep with attractive women consistently, discipline such as a good diet and exercise routine. *being a horn dog does not equal sleeping with attractive women. Horn dogs just think about it and jerk off to it, or fucks anything with a hole which is equally disgusting. Read before you comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 04:45 PM
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I wouldn’t call her a slut, but it just means she’s attractive. Most attractive* women DO sleep with exclusively attractive men, so this is nothing special. It just means she likes to have a lot of sex. Which to me personally is disgusting, but it’s her life and her choices. There’s nothing remarkable about a woman sleeping with many attractive men. She literally just has to call one of them and get instant gratification. What is far more remarkable to me is not sleeping with many men as an attr…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 04:41 PM
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No, it actually doesn’t apply to men in the same way. People see men in a positive light who sleep with many attractive women. In the same right sleeping with unattractive women is disgusting to women because it’s easy and low effort. People value people who can do difficult things, and both men and women know that sleeping with many attractive women takes good genes, good discipline, and good initiative and confidence. It’s impressive. For a woman to sleep around she just has to lay on the bed …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 03:22 PM
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While Red Pill is certainly amoral, I can say with conviction that the philosophy has only taken off so much because of women’s behavior towards men. There is no other way of looking at it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 08:15 PM
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When I needed it (multiple times) I would buy it without saying anything and just give it to her, implying that there is a need for her to take it (esp if we were both drinking). Luckily I pick good women to sleep with so she would open it and take it in front of me without me even insinuating I wanted her to, probably because she understands it goes without saying that I would be worried about trap.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 03:49 PM
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Idk this is a simple answer for me. If we’re friends, FWB, or just hooking up, I couldn’t care less about sexual history given protection is used. If I’m committing to you exclusively, sexual history and relationship history is possibly a dealbreaker.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 03:50 PM
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This post goes a little too far IMO, but in general I think the disdain for “slut shaming” is EXTREMELY hypocritical given the average woman’s opinion on male promiscuity.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 10:38 PM
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I don’t know anyone—RP or BP—who believes this. In RP ideology it is EXPECTED to be rejected for many different various reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 04:42 PM
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Thank you for sharing your experience, I just want to observe that it’s interesting most of what you listed are traits of highly neurotic BP men. I wonder if you (un)intentionally seek those men out or if it’s that they seem like great options for a relationship at FIRST til their true nature is revealed.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 10:03 PM
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I would agree if you HEAVILY narrowed your statement and said that “Extremely hot women who only want loaded dudes have little concept of the value of money,” because that actually is true in me experience and my peers. But to say that pretty girls in general don’t is a blatant falsehood, I can think of many counter examples off the top of my head from my own life. Your issue is unconsciously selecting women who will ONLY value your money, likely because of an underlying self-hatred or insecurit…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 12:02 AM
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I used to be an addict. I think I’m more than qualified to speak on the issue. I’m saying that meth specifically alters your brain chemistry in such a way that trivial and even unappealing things can feel rewarding and attractive. It distorts your judgment such that you can’t make reliably sound decisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 09:53 PM
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I hate to no true Scotsman but it’s true that ACTUAL RP says this, that we are complements to eachother. The distorted RP that most actually follow is just blatantly sexist, hence why I don’t identify with RP anymore. I consider myself “independent” but definitely RP leaning.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 07:40 PM
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Woah, this is WAY too thought out and nuanced for Reddit
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 07:39 PM
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I love both video games and anime but I will just flat out say I’m hot as fuck. I work out often diet well and just am facially attractive. I also work a couple different jobs and I’m a full time student (about to graduate). the red flag yellow flag shit doesn’t have any basis in statistical likelihood, embrace your hobbies and if you’re true to yourself then at some point a woman is gonna come along who has a lot of respect for that, bc it’s hard to find quality men with self respect. Edit; I s…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 07:35 PM
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What in the fuck is wrong with you people.. how can she be hot in all the ways you like best and simultaneously on meth. Someone on meth doesn’t have the rational judgment to even declare that they’re into someone
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 07:13 PM
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Women shouldn’t give men dating advice to men, and men shouldn’t take dating advice from women, period. How is this not common sense? If I’m a fisherman looking to catch a fish, why would I ask a fish the best way to be caught? Women aren’t going to tell you how to succeed in a relationship. They are going to tell you how to fit their specific version of an ideal man who fits every checkbox of their Preferences™️ Even more ironically, usually just conforming to what your partner says they prefer…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/23 03:35 PM
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If you think what he posted is RP you know absolutely nothing about RP. That shit is blue pilled if anything. And I consider myself in the middle, so not a RP shill.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/23 07:55 PM
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Dude I think in this exact way about everything. Kinda rare to see nowadays.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/23 07:53 PM
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DAMN!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/23 07:51 PM
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I’m the same as you for the most part, probably a little more RP than blue. But there are some components of RP I disagree with and that lead to an unfulfilling life. But I would definitely consider myself purple pilled (closer to red though)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/23 07:47 PM
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I can assure you 100 percent that there are FAR more women who prefer tall men than men who prefer tall women. So the scenarios are definitely not equivalent
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 07:56 AM
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These things aren’t equivalent whatsoever. Some men would argue taller women are LESS attractive. What would be equivalent is the use of padded bras.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 11:02 PM
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TRP has nothing to do with sleeping around, rather sleeping around is a commonly chosen lifestyle after embracing TRP philosophy. TRP is first and foremost a systematic way to “reinvent” your physical and mental states in order to have the best chance at succeeding with women. Long-term relationships are the focus of many branches of TRP. It’s about what you choose to do with the tools you gain. Granted I don’t even identify with TRP anymore like I used to, ironically I think I’m more RPd now th…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/23 06:30 PM
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What exactly is reactionary about TRP?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/23 06:27 PM
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I get what you’re saying.. but the fact remains that the only fleshed out and visible community representing MGTOW is full of those posts. Unless there’s another place that represents the philosophy of MGTOW?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/23 04:27 PM
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I understand where they’re coming from but the core characteristic* of that sub is anger. Someone who has really went their own way is has a peaceful mind, no anxieties about other people and no longing for something to fix them, just confidence in yourself that you will be ok no matter what. That’s what going your own way means to me, but their definition is a little different clearly Lol. Edit: alluding to what you’re saying: if posters on MGTOW went their own way after leaving the sub, then t…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 04:31 AM
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I think MGTOW itself is rather disingenuous as it doesn't hit the mark on why men should disengage with womens' shenanigans. MGTOW tends to always talk about how they're leaving but all they do is complain and bitch about womens' behavior. If they really went their own way they would stop talking about them. I think a better view is to stop adjusting who you are and what you like based on womens' interests. If they dont like you for whatever reason then fuck em, they can find someone else, and y…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 06:55 PM
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Who gives a fuck about analyzing flirtation? Like who actually gives a fuck, just talk to her stop caring so much what she thinks
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 11:20 PM
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Not to be reductive, but why would a fisherman ask a fish the best way to be caught? You should really be asking successful men, which most would say you need to handle yourself with tact and grace, coming on too quickly is jarring to women but never showing interest is a sign of rejection.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 08:47 PM
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It is but not if you’re faking it. Women have this 6th sense of being able to see through ANY sort of emotional or personality facade and they’ll lose all attraction like a light switch. You just need to be naturally strong through discipline/adversity and have those qualities without having to pretend
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/23 05:58 PM
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No, you just posted in bad faith because you are aware that most people don’t read Icelandic. Thus I can’t refute it because I can’t read it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/23 08:05 AM
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Do you read Icelandic? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/23 12:44 AM
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Oh please, show me some of these “statistics.” I happen to be an expert in statistics so I’d love to take a look.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/23 08:01 PM
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Everything other than playing the western women’s infinite game is predatory for people like you lol
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/23 05:21 PM
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i don’t normally get so black/white or blatant with my takes on here because every situation has nuance. But I know the real reason women hate this. It’s because they’re being forced to realize they aren’t the prize, and men don’t have to put up with their bullshit expectations. They can find a woman from another culture who is divorced from the RIDICULOUS western expectations of women
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/23 05:18 PM
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You sure do throw around insinuations carelessly without any actual basis of evidence. You don’t actually know anything about anyone’s relationship without some form of evidence of wrongdoing. This is a delusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/23 05:17 PM
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Yes exactly that’s how I feel. The idea is to feign contempt of the attention and attraction but secretly thrive on it to the point of not being able to live without it, then keep the attraction stable by using various tactics like gaslighting and carrot-and-stick.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/23 09:14 PM
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No, I’ve never ever once had a woman ask me for consent for anything. They just assume I want a sexual encounter when they do. One of the many reasons I don’t do ONS anymore, because If you revoke your consent from a woman, some will get SO butthurt that they weren’t hot enough for you that they will straight up spread lies to avoid the embarrassment of the truth of being rejected by a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/23 04:19 PM
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Yep. These exact scenarios reversed would have women on a fuckin witch hunt.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/23 04:16 PM
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With women, I think the first thing that comes to mind when asked this question is an exception. What exception can I think of where it’s ok to cheat? But the harsh truth is, even of all who report it never being ok, I assure you a large fraction of them have cheated and justify it using some form of mental gymnastics, such as a moment of weakness, mental illness, we were about to break up, I was blacked out, etc. there’s always some reason, I’ve NEVER heard of a cheating woman straight up say “…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/23 04:13 PM
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No, you’re the delusional one by denying what has been shown many times by science to be true.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 12:14 AM
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That’s under the wild assumption that men care about whether a woman has a degree, and further assuming it’s what makes a woman attractive. A college degree has nothing whatsoever to do with a woman’s attractiveness in a man’s eye. Even if it did, that is not hypergamy. You need to educate yourself on what hypergamy means
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 12:13 AM
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Hypergamy is about the ONLY concept that I know is 100 percent true in this topic. Everything else I go back and forth on sometimes. But hypergamy is definitely real.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 01:44 PM
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Ok I do believe that a high n count is disgusting on a fundamental level, so I would choose option B. But if you think B is also unattractive, what exactly are your expectations from a woman? I mean damn is she not allowed to commit to someone other than you for her entire life? I am completely for holding women to as high of standards as she does men, but frankly you are hypocritical for demanding she hasn’t committed to anyone else before because that’s no different than the women who have ext…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 10:46 PM
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“Blue collar alpha male” is something I read as more of a figure of speech than literal country boy who likes trucks, trump, and workin’. What I mean is conservative women are far more upfront with their TRUE preferences because they’re less influenced by feminism. Feminist women have the same preferences deep down but do everything they can to cover it up with smoke and mirrors.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 03:30 PM
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“Saying” is the key word, the conservative women are just telling the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 03:24 PM
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I have found this as well. “Successful” women care about nothing but being successful and appearing successful to their peers. Successful men tend to have a variety of interests and depth. Successful women are extremely shallow, to the point of being toxic and manipulative. I don’t EVER want to date a woman obsessed with her career like this. I am studying for my career because I think it’s fun and it does pay nice with low stress. But I just want it as a proxy to live my life the way I want, no…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 03:02 PM
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This is the thing OP. What women SAY and DO are entirely different things. Studies and opinions from friends are based off of what women say, but at the end of the day women behave the same as they always have. It’s not BAD necessarily, more so something that isn’t accepted in todays culture. Dudes who are attractive and high value realize this, that’s why they get laid constantly. Lately I haven’t been dating but I have a lot of experience with women and from a male perspective (as one who is H…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 02:56 PM
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I can’t think of a single person who is MGTOW who is pro-dating in today’s culture. It goes against everything the movement stands for. To be clear when I say romance, I’m referring to dating and generally “playing the game” with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 08:29 AM
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Yes, because lack of adherence to societal standards is a superset of the lack of participation in romance, a societal standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 01:54 AM
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Me? Damn
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 11:17 PM
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He’s my role model tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 11:16 PM
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Single does not equal disengaging from romance. That’s a false equivalency
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 11:13 PM
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Marrying is the key word. MGTOW is disengaging from romance entirely, WGTOW is not locking themselves down with one man and playing the roulette forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 11:12 PM
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I starkly understand that difference. That has nothing to do with what you were originally saying though. I don’t know any girl who would say that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/23 11:51 PM
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I find this hilarious for some reason. You’re saying the exact same thing except buttered up and packaged with a bow on top. Men and women communicate in different ways. Further, I don’t know many men who just outright call girls worthless. But I know MANY women who have outright called other men worthless. Why is it so bad to be direct and say what you mean? Why can’t women do that? And if you suggest anything other than the feminine narrative, you need to “work on yourself.” No, you just need …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/23 10:26 PM
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Yea idk I have never once thought to myself EVER “damn I wish I had a partner.” I’ve had many girlfriends in the past but I always just would think like yea I like sex but I just wish I was alone instead of with her. I’m happier like that and if I did date she would be hurt because I don’t like spending time together all the time, there’s no easy way to tell your partner you prefer being by yourself. That said interaction is critical and it’s good to engage with people daily (men and women alike…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/23 04:34 PM
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I am. Thing is I’m actually a good looking guy, I just don’t want to date anymore. I’m happier alone 100 percent so long as I get some basic social interaction daily at school or work
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/23 02:53 PM
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This here is why the post argument is an inherent strawman fallacy. It isn’t even possible for there to be a collective male power.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/23 02:52 PM
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I mean, I lost almost a couple inches of height in a car wreck a few years ago and I’m 5’8 now, but I still get attention from girls. It does happen although I’m sure it’d be far more if I was taller. Definitely not impossible though
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/23 05:36 AM
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You are intellectualizing this argument unnecessarily. What he is saying is very simple: many women sexually objectify themselves (I.e. instagram) while demanding nobody else sexually objectifies them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 12:18 AM
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I think women tend to take minute details into consideration when rating themselves such as skin health and hair. Men see the big picture much more clearly. Face, weight, ass, tits, and is she tolerable to be around? If we’re going with a numerical scale, the big picture is what matters more, a “summary.” When looking for a partner, I think those details matter more such as hygiene, quirks, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 09:01 PM
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Yeah, that’s the study that’s heavily statistically biased. There’s one that doesn’t specify genders, which can be attributed to simply the Dunning-Kruger effect, since all other variables are held equal. The study you’re referring to is quoted alllll over psychology articles and the statistical bias against men is almost criminal. The study that did not differentiate genders seemed accurate statistically and in its methods. That said, I can’t find the study I was talking about so I’ll redact th…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 03:32 AM
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Keep in mind that according to some sources, women GROSSLY overestimate their attractiveness. I can try to find it if you’d like but that really skews this discussion of average women see themselves as 9s/10s, in that case they would never consider an average man because In their mind they are far out of the man’s league. Edit, take what I said with a grain of salt because now I can’t find the study. I do find studies that contradict that, but they are HEAVILY biased. This one was statistically …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 03:09 AM
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That's also why women aren't doing these thing with hook ups. Implies "women aren't acting out these fantasies with hookups." Which implies they ARE acting them out with some people. Regardless, if you're just gonna say we're discussing different things, then that's fine but there's just nothing else to add to the conversation. edited for clarity
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 11:55 PM
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Your very first comment that I am replying to in this thread is about participating in a fantasy. "They're actively participating and choosing the role. It can be stopped with a word at any time. That's also why women aren't doing these thing with hook ups. They don't actually want raped or to be dominated. Actual domination isn't a choice. These women are in charge at all times." You're now just moving the goalposts. I am pointing out the flaws in the argument above. You are constantly switchin…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 11:47 PM
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She definitely does not CHOOSE his actions, she allows them to happen so long as it's within the bounds of her consent. Those two are not equivalent statements. Choosing his actions would be instructing him on every move he makes during the act. That is not how rape fantasies work. They set certain boundaries beforehand and he does whatever he wants within those boundaries unless she instructs him to stop. I'm sorry but there's no such thing as choosing someone's actions. It can't simultaneously…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 11:35 PM
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Nonconsent is rape. It being her fantasy makes it consensual. Thus, rape fantasy. Don't know what you're even trying to say here, sounds like you just want to be right and win the argument. A rape fantasy is about being dominated by one party consensually. If you are going to just sit there and semantically bend the definition of words to your will, then this discussion is over because you're arguing in bad faith. Everyone here agrees that this fantasy involves one party being dominated by the o…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 11:26 PM
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But the core tenants of the fantasy is being unable to choose what he does. Hence why it's called consensual nonconsent. It is understood by both that she can stop at any time with phrases like safe words, but by definition participating in the fantasy is being dominated. Fucking her just right is just regular good sex. Consensual nonconsent does not equal being "fucked just right." It's an entirely different way of having sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 11:21 PM
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You just contradicted yourself by saying they are "participating in the role," i.e. enacting their fantasy. Which is what we are discussing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 11:17 PM
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that is a shit comparison and I think now you are just arguing in bad faith. We both know that sexual domination does not equal violent domination.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 11:15 PM
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Exactly. And enacting that fantasy involves being temporarily dominated, knowing full well that you can stop it. You are trying to claim that isn't domination. It is.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 11:14 PM
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this is the best comparison I've seen in this thread
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 11:11 PM
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She is being physically dominated, with the choice to stop the domination. What you are saying is hogwash.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 11:10 PM
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She's choosing his every move? Dude just stop. Call it what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 11:09 PM
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Complete L0L, sweeping generalizations
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 08:46 PM
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No, stop. This is something that should be allowed to be discussed in good faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 08:41 PM
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It actually is as simple as it sounds
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 08:33 PM
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Women actually give pretty obvious signals they’re not into you when you pay attention and stop thinking about securing sex. I realize there are ugly men out there. But this only applies if you are able to attract a woman. TRP goes over how to overcome not being attractive to women, those people need to take the first steps themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 08:30 PM
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True. But I don’t romantically talk to women who aren’t into me. It’s kinda pointless, and you can tell quickly.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 08:22 PM
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No, it isn’t. You don’t actually know what it means or teaches. You are describing incel culture. Sad I just have to repeat myself to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 06:56 PM
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same here. I am not ashamed at all to admit that I sometimes think about dick. But I am pretty RPd and still attracted to women for the most part. I also subscribe to most RP beliefs because my experiences have 100 percent aligned with RP descriptions over my life. I wasn’t until I saw it with my own eyes, almost without fail every time. I think that’s a reason that sometimes im like damn.. life would be simpler without women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 10:55 AM
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Yeah. After a while she ends up being almost insulted that you HAVENT pushed for it, like “what? You’re not bugging me about sex and making me feel hotter than you? Wtf. Do you even think I’m hot? I’ll show you I’m hot.” This has ALWAYS, without fail, been my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 10:45 AM
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None, and I mean none of those things are what the red pill is. What you are describing is incel culture, something completely different and incorrect. That’s sorta a red herring, the actual content of red pill philosophy is about who you are on the inside, not outside.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 10:39 AM
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True, but despite what they SAY women naturally gravitate towards men with high n count, on average. While men typically push away from women with high N count, on average.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 10:31 AM
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Flashing your tits on GGW is meaningless. Hell I could see myself getting naked on camera if I was drunk af and they wanted to film for a sec lmao, and I’m a guy. What is miles worse is OnlyFans. If she is actively peddling this side business of selling her body, she is NOT dating material and definitely for the fuckin streets. OF girls are not worthy of a relationship. They chose that lifestyle and should handle the consequences that come with it. Some idiot will prolly wife em up though and re…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 08:26 PM
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I weirdly would respect that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 02:53 PM
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Yet here all the older women are, married to average Adam. How does it make sense that women want that when all I see with my own two eyes are older women married to the most average of Men?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 06:17 PM
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I just think most men would be like that if they’d embrace themselves. Men are constantly asking about “how” to talk to girls. The answer is so obvious they’ve never even considered it it seems like.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 07:49 PM
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Why can’t men be their natural selves? I’m a man and when I’m my natural self, which is always basically, I am balanced between nice and assertive. There’s nothing to “try” to do, it’s just how I am. I don’t really give a fuck what girls think about me, I just behave like I naturally do.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 07:45 PM
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Yes, I realize that someone can be deemed creepy based on their behavior at any point. That makes sense and is very fair to me. What I am claiming, is that women operate under a presupposition that any given man is likely to be creepy. That’s not the same thing, it doesn’t take into account any action or behavior from the man. An easier way to say it would be a heavy bias against the intentions of all men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 07:11 PM
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You are creating a false narrative. Obviously that situation wouldn’t be creepy, and obviously the latter situation would be. You’re completely ignoring the nuance in everyday approach and conversation. No middle ground. So, based on that and the opinions of many women on this very forum, your comment is hogwash.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 11:56 AM
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I follow college girls because I’m in college. Regular girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 11:53 AM
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Fair, I’m not stubborn enough to think there aren’t exceptions to those trends. I’ve met some truly genuine girls who have genuine friends that never have drama issues in their group, except for valid reasons that any human would be pissed off by. So I do believe you. Many girls are self conscious about trivial things that are nobody else’s business because of the nature for girls to “compete” with eachother. But again, guys do their own toxic things, for example, in the gym staring you down and…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 08:04 PM
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Eh, girls are very conscious about what their peers think of them. I can’t prove that but I know it to be true in most woman friend groups. I’ve talked to many of my platonic girl friends and they sometimes complain to me “so and so just goes home with random dudes all the time. It’s kinda slutty”, and I know damn well they are buddy buddy with eachother. Girls do that. They talk shit about eachother for trivial reasons and pretend the y don’t. Guys do toxic shit too in their own right, but it’s…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 07:56 PM
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So, if the person is downright average in every capacity, and you don’t wanna be approached, you’re not going to respond positively. That is exactly how I see it and I appreciate you for saying it out loud instead of dancing around it. An attractive man has the potential to turn any approach into an appropriate one, depending on how attractive she thinks he is.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 07:36 PM
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Sure, but we have to look at actual trends among women. You can’t deny that there is a TREND that women take positive action on men with gendered masculine behavior as opposed to not. It’s disingenuous to claim otherwise considering my own and many other mens’ experience attests to it. Yes, All people have different preferences, that is plainly obvious to literally everyone. The issue here is the specific amount of women who positively react to this behavior compared to those who don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 07:33 PM
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Yes exactly!! This is my experience to a Tee. I am good looking and it has never once mattered “where” I approach. Not to say I’ve never been rejected, but I’ve approached in situations that would generally be considered inappropriate with perfect results. It’s almost like quantum mechanics, the subject “snaps” to a measurement determined by probability, with no defined existence. What I mean is, the appropriateness of a situation is up in the air and undefined til a good looking guy approaches,…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 07:30 PM
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I certainly have, though I don’t sit there and wonder why. I just move on. One thing contextual I have noticed is, you are FAR more likely to be entirely rejected if a girl is with her friends, than if she’s alone (again in my experience). Approaching a girl whose with her friends is almost guaranteed failure, as she doesn’t want to appear “easy” to her friends and has much more confidence. But when a girl is alone, it seems she’s much more open to being approached. Why is that?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 07:24 PM
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You can make that argument about anything. At some point you have to zoom in and address the claim directly. I can say reality is more complex than any thread I see on Reddit. It’s called a tautology.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 06:58 PM
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I feel as if that’s semantics. We can say that’s included in context. If so, why not just say attractiveness matters? Because time, place, and manner don’t seem to have any relevance for me. You could say “manner” correlates with charisma and being genuine, but in general, the “appropriate situation” argument is irrelevant in my experience. I have equal success approaching whether the situation is appropriate or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 06:33 PM
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*attractiveness matters. I am attractive and charismatic and I have plenty of luck approaching women basically whenever the fuck I feel like it. But the average Adam will NOT have the same experience, even in the appropriate situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 06:29 PM
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I’m basing my experience on me, not a video. I am consistently rewarded when I take no consideration for whether she’s creeped out, probably because I’m good looking. I can tel if she’s creeped out, I’m not socially oblivious. Edit and I can assure you, my experience is very real whether you believe it or not. Don’t assume people get their dating advice from YouTube.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 06:17 PM
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Well that’s an agreeable comment. I am very handsome so I don’t really struggle with being in women’s spaces, although I don’t really make a point to try and meet women either. It just sort of happens with me. I’m speaking for the average Adam who is generally mediocre, they would be shunned for encroaching on a women’s space for any reason. I do agree that charisma and genuine conversation is mandatory though.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 06:15 PM
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On r/dating and r/AskWomen. I have seen it time and time again. Also, in person, when I’ve talked with women about what they prefer, they seem to always suggest that (to me, at least).
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 06:13 PM
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What if the man who approaches in the “I don’t want to meet men right now” scenario is incredibly attractive? I’ve had a lot of luck just walking up and talking to women whenever the fuck I feel like it. I am blessed to be very handsome as well. I think the standard changes when it’s someone who’s attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 06:08 PM
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That is a tautology and thus an utterly meaningless statement. “People are into different types of people” actually says nothing. Try addressing the actual affirmative claim, which is that women are hypocritical in denouncing bravado men when that’s who they reward their attention to.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 06:05 PM
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Then why do women 30+ almost always get married eventually or are in LTRs? I mean, you can’t deny that most older women are married or hoping to be married. Your statement doesn’t add up.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 06:03 PM
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I wouldn’t expect you to* at all. But, once more, are you really saying a truly handsome man doesn’t stand out more than a girl who is pretty, considering how many ugly men there are? Edit: I myself don’t notice unattractive people either, I don’t consider them a potential partner in any capacity. It would be a double standard to expect that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 05:54 PM
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I completely agree with this and this is the point I was getting at. It’s an inherent contradiction to say all objectification is wrong when they are overtly trying to attract a certain type of man who they want to be objectified by.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 05:53 PM
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How many women do you think would agree with that statement? I find that older women say they’d rather be single, but when push comes to shove they begin looking for a relationship anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 05:52 PM
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Something more rare is naturally more noticeable, by definition. But again, whatever But regarding your last sentence, that there is an interesting statement. Not implying anything bad here. But most men seek to stand out among other men, while it seems that you wear makeup to appear as one with the crowd. I’m certain that has some generalization and implication for women. Men generally want to stand out in the crowd always. I have noticed for sure that women tend to “go with the flow,” not viol…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 05:50 PM
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Even considering ONLY the end result, it is an objective fact that an extremely attractive man is far more rare than an extremely attractive woman. Why would I need to make myself feel better about the plainly obvious? I am blessed to be a very attractive man myself so I have nothing to brood over. Your disagreement isn’t a matter of opinion, it’s fact. Handsome men are more of an anomaly than a pretty woman. If anything, edit, you are projecting the insecurity of having to wear makeup and put i…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 05:43 PM
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The basic idea is that as women’s looks decline, which happens at a FAR faster rate than men, they will have no choice but to settle for Adam since their looks no longer attract the hot older gentleman in their late 30s. have a look at this. I can’t find the actual study on scholar but it is real.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 05:39 PM
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What does that have to do at all with the point I’m making? Or this post in general? Nobody said people date people who they find unattractive. The post is simply an observation that a beautiful man, who puts in zero effort into “looking beautiful,” except maybe hitting the gym, is far more impressive than a beautiful woman who is likely wearing makeup. They are oversaturated.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 05:35 PM
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I think this comment is in bad faith. OP didn’t frame the point very well, but I think what they mean is a beautiful man is far more rare than a beautiful woman, and that stands out very abruptly. Especially considering that the majority of women put a lot of effort into appearing attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 05:30 PM
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Agreed. There will be a lot of dissent in this post, but true male beauty is far, far more rare than female beauty. And a lot of female beauty takes extreme effort such as make-up and skincare. But when you see a man who is simply beautiful and you can tell he just woke up and scurried off to class? That is impressive and stands out. I am blessed to be a very handsome man so I sorta speak from experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 05:28 PM
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I find it interesting that women tend to only post photos of themselves and sometimes their ass/body on IG. But then say that being objectified is wrong. Some women only go to the gym to make their ass bigger. You mean to tell me those women are just “doing it to impress other women?” I’d hope not because that is hogwash.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 05:22 PM
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Every man is strange until they aren’t, to women. That’s the issue, men are left with no reasonable option to meet women. Women always say the best way to ask a girl for her number is to just walk up and say she’s cute and ask. But they simultaneously say that is harassment and creepy. It breaks all logic and women seem to want to only meet men on THEIR terms, reserving all of the power in who gets choice when looking for partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 05:19 PM
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Then why is it on forums when men ask women the best way to meet and maybe get their number.. it’s to approach and just ask? Walking contradictions.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 05:16 PM
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Women think every man in existence is strange or creepy until they discover something that makes them attractive. Women operate under the presupposition that any man who approaches is creepy. But if you ask women what is the best way to ask a woman out? Bingo, cold approach and just talk. Women in today’s west are the epitome of contradiction.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 05:14 PM
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Yes, but the difference is if women come into Dave’s Pub they are welcomed with open arms. If men go into Cafe Chic they are immediately vilified and shunned for invading a women’s space
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 05:12 PM
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Well, I’m really replying to the OPs original post here and not “brain chemistry” whatever that ambiguous term is supposed to mean. It is in fact being debated in this thread as we speak. That’s the point of the post, is n count related to lower compatibility with a monogamous relationship. The study answers that question.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 05:05 PM
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Find me a man who thinks a high n count is not unattractive on a girl and get back to me then.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 04:01 PM
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People are misunderstanding this topic. Not only does promiscuity lead to higher likelihood of infidelity later, but it fundamentally makes women less attractive. A high N count for women is like a man being incredibly short or having a small penis. It makes you fundamentally unattractive to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 03:20 PM
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It does, actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 03:18 PM
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This is blatantly factually incorrect. Studies left and right disprove this. Past sexual activity has a massive impact on future relationships. Specifically, promiscuity early in life makes it more difficult for a woman to maintain a healthy monogamous relationship later in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 03:15 PM
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Please, enlighten me then. Let me remind you the exception isn’t the rule, making your argument invalid.
/r/MensRights17/11/22 09:30 PM
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But what if you don’t get their consent? Are you telling me that you love this person so much, you’ll stay with them regardless and never cheat? Or will you just end the relationship? But if you just end the relationship, isnt that throwing away all that “love” for purely physical reasons, knowing damn well you might never be happy like that again? Or were you ever happy to begin with..? I think you see what I’m saying: wanting polygamy after being in a monogamous relationship is a contradiction…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 04:35 PM
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So.. you’re a cuck? I mean that’s fine but just say it like it is
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 04:30 PM
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I’d dump her for even suggesting it. These scenarios are a classic “want my cake and eat it too” moment. How would any normal girl feel if I proposed she let me sleep with other women only because she isn’t sexy enough/doesn’t have a good facial structure to turn me on? Genuinely consider that thought for a moment if you’re a girl reading this.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 04:28 PM
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Hahaha. Ok well believe what you want. You’re not the only person on the internet who has made mistakes. And thanks for enlightening me but that claim was so startling I just had to look… but nothing. Hence why I asked if you could guide me in the right direction. Someone so scared of a woman outdoing him wouldn’t ask for more evidence to be proven wrong with, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 07:12 PM
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Care to provide a statistic other than the anecdote of being a criminal? Cuz you know, I’ve done time too. And I truly don’t believe tou
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 06:49 PM
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Most disingenuous comment I might have ever seen on Reddit
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 05:49 PM
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I mean; I can get bitches if I try and I’m 5’8. Lost two inches of height in a car wreck but don’t really notice a difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 05:48 PM
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“Simple jobs” LMFAO tell me why there are barely any women in engineering/mathematics compared to the overwhelming amount of men
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 04:26 PM
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Why do men on this sub have ZERO clue how to speak to women lmfao
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 03:39 PM
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What if I believe the same thing she does? Despite believing wholeheartedly that trans people are as human as anyone else? And yeah I do 100 percent believe her. How is that transphobic?
/r/MensRights29/10/22 07:53 AM
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These people are coping hard man
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 05:02 PM
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I’d be willing to bet money that the women aren’t answering truthfully. If they’re basing it on surveys. And here’s the reason, because men are proud to say they’ve slept with many women, and women are deep down ashamed to truthfully report.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 05:01 PM
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Who was coping here? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 11:05 PM
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Also, life circumstances aren’t stale probabilities. They are dramatically influenced by nuance you can’t quantify without certain data. And I’m a mathematician so I understand probability and what you’re trying to say. But it is completely inapplicable to reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 05:48 PM
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Who said average people aren’t allowed expectations? Average people are allowed average expectations. I don’t think anyone objects to that other than average people who think they deserve more.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 05:42 PM
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Who ever said you have to median or above in all categories?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 05:41 PM
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Hm, after rereading, I think you’re right. So, sorry for being hostile. That being said, why is it that men now have trouble escaping a cycle of depression? I feel like this has only emerged more recently in the world, although I know it existed before. Just very prevalent recently. So why? I obviously have many personal theories but I don’t truly know if any of them are correct. They’re based more on my values and my perspective of the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 04:55 PM
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This is just BS and extreme leaps and bounds in logic. It’s your responsibility to pick yourself up when you’re down in life, that’s just how I see the world. I don’t buy that BS bc I’ve been literally homeless, broke, and addicted to alcohol and cocaine and not bathed in who knows how long. I’m not gonna sit here and brag about where I am now, but anybody can change. Ofc you don’t want your mind changed so you’ll make up something out of magic to say, but it’s the truth and it’s how normal peop…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 04:21 PM
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That’s not what I was referring to though. I said, what’s wrong with average people having expectations?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 02:35 PM
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Exactly, what is wrong with that?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 02:27 PM
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Not the best way to learn the most you can about a topic, just one perspective. No?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 02:26 PM
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Please, explain more.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 02:21 PM
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Major copium here. Your first point is complete BS, because I look good and people don’t lick my boots. And yes, I actually do look good, I can prove it If you’d like but I’d rather you just take my word for it. It takes one counterexample to destroy a theory. Well I have many. I have bunches and bunches of average looking dudes as friends and acquaintances who are in genuinely happy relationships. I know some who aren’t at all too. But I know some who are.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 01:53 PM
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Lmfao
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 01:50 PM
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I need to do a write up on here bc so many guys fundamentally misunderstand the dynamic of sex and commitment. Men and women are like yin and Yang and everything exists in a perfect balance. We each have different but thematically similar struggles, and every struggle has a counterpoint. I do agree what makes women attractive is far easier to achieve than what makes men attractive. But you’re completely missing that it’s far, far easier for men to achieve healthy commitment than women. Men are t…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 09:05 PM
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This is the right answer. It’s an old adage in TRP community but frankly I think most can agree on it: women are the gatekeepers of sex, men are the gatekeepers of commitment
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 04:46 PM
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I still wouldn’t let social pressure influence my choices lol. So the standards are certainly for me as well:
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 03:59 AM
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Because they can is tautology. The ones that do do it because they are shallow by many standards. And I have options myself and don’t need to date big Bertha. Just stating that women are the ones who do this primarily, not men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 10:42 PM
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Sure. But unfortunately PPD is a subset of reddit which attracts those kind of men. I don’t know how to help these guys understand that the answer is so obvious they’ve never even considered it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 04:21 PM
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For you. Not for me or many of us.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 04:14 PM
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Actually no, by competence I mean the ability to handle various difficulties without problems or much help. But salary is generally a subset of competence, among other things. I mean, I can’t think of more simple and monotoned dating advice than those things. Once you get a grip on those, what comes next is the actual advice, I.e. different difficult situations, nuanced feelings, dealing with infidelity, how to maintain attraction in a LTR, being good at sex, how to have emotional support, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 10:00 PM
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Generally is a great word because it accounts for the outlier situations that inevitably occur, the (who knows) 5-20% of women who are just programmed differently for whatever reason and don’t react the same way as others. Also this feels specific to western culture for the most part. But, I think that women’s personality begins to matter a lot more as they age, and as a result, they begin to care far more about “long-term qualities” in men. This isn’t to say that overt desperate neediness right…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 09:53 PM
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Exactly; that’s bigotry. You should date based on your own feelings alone, not superficial qualities that mean nothing in an actual relationship. That’s only human for a bad person.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 09:47 PM
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it’s about securing attraction from the opposite sex. You’re literally an idiot.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 09:45 PM
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I’m hilariously weak, no I won’t play your little game. Girls like you are actual red flags.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 09:44 PM
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I don’t agree with the entire premise that someone can accurately give dating advice to the opposite sex due to their complete lack of perspective. This excludes cliches and common sense that everyone is aware of, I.e. hygiene, respect, trustworthiness, competence, intelligence, interesting, etc. therefore, this post contributed nothing to actual relevant dating advice since it’s a repeat of what the opposite sex always gives as advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 09:43 PM
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Yeah, you actually do understand it perfectly. Lmao. It’s based on the idea that women generally don’t know exactly what they want in a partner til they see it with their own eyes. If you go solely by their advice, it could actually mold you into the kind of “nice guy” that women aren’t inherently attracted to. You can have great qualities as a long term partner, but revealing that right off the bat seems desperate and women don’t realize that til they see it generally.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 09:40 PM
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It’s just a simple analogy meant to illustrate a point. Believe me I do fine with women. But seriously, how is this cliche woman advice going to help anyone at all, or clear up any sort of discussion? Guys will not improve taking this advice, barring the part about self care which is actually true.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 06:34 PM
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No, that’s not what I’m saying. I’m referring to someone who abandons a relationship due to social stigma, despite keeping physical attraction. You are conflating attraction and peer pressure.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 06:32 PM
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What do you mean what….?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 06:26 PM
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Completely missing the point. He’s referring to when the burden of social stigma overtakes the physical attraction of the guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 06:18 PM
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In what way exactly did this end controversial posts on this sub? The vast majority of this post are cliches that women tell men as dating advice. Let me ask a question. If I’m a fisherman, why would I take advice from fish?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 06:10 PM
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agree with OP on this one. People participate in bigotry in more way than the conventional ones we all are aware of daily, perpetuating stigma about uncontrollable features is bigotry, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 06:05 PM
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Well if you wanna get specific, the technical opposite to a complete whore would be a neck beard incel who is morbidly obese and has never had sex. Edited words
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 04:51 PM
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Go up and read a few comments, I quite literally answered this question and proceeded comments ago. Your logic is circular thus this will be a never ending discussion, you simply are refusing to back down but are providing nothing at all for the discussion, just redirecting it so you don’t have to see reality. Have a good one
/r/MensRights08/10/22 08:42 AM
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Simple question response. What is the CURRENT reason nipples are covered? Here is the thing about your argument. The simplest of all actions is inaction. That is, covering the body requires some form of action, to follow the rule. The human DEFAULT is to not cover. I.e. men don’t go out of their way to cover anything unnecessary, at the beach for example. What I am saying is, for what reason do we add a requirement to what is covered on the body? You’re asking wby the should NOT be covered. The …
/r/MensRights08/10/22 12:45 AM
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*read: WOMEN’s nipples. I do still think it’s tough to argue a woman’s nipples are inherently different from a man’s, but you could argue they are functionally different cuz of reproduction. But.. then again, men ARE capable of lactating from the nipple, so it refuted that point. It’s really a massive grey area
/r/MensRights08/10/22 12:06 AM
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I think the distinction is I don’t consider nipples genitalia. Which explains why I don’t believe they should be covered, to me at least genitalia refers to one of two things: a penis or a vagina. So I don’t believe non genitalia should be covered (unless they don’t feel comfortable revealing them). But I see you do consider the nipples genitalia since we men are aroused by them, and that would be a valid point to say since they ARE genitalia, they should be covered. But the point isn’t valid un…
/r/MensRights08/10/22 12:04 AM
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And what is that argument you could make?? That’s what I’ve been wanting this whole time haha. No disrespect it just seems like you’re dancing around the actual argument that women should have their nipples covered. This whole time I’ve been explaining why they SHOULDNT, but you have yet to provide a reason that they should, I.e. a counter example.
/r/MensRights07/10/22 11:36 PM
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Let me correct you. The ACTUAL rule would be both parties must cover their nipples. My bad, cuz I’ve been saying boobs this whole time, but nipples are the actual critical point that are to be covered. Obviously, this is a contradiction, since both women and men have nipples and only women cover theirs. Edit: and even if we were talking about the whole boob, your premise is based on the fact that men hypothetically would have to cover their boobs. But it’s only hypothetical and isn’t based on re…
/r/MensRights07/10/22 11:32 PM
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But they don’t, and never will, so the rules don’t equally apply to both parties. No?
/r/MensRights07/10/22 07:05 PM
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I think they should be covered because sex is a naturally intimate act for human beings, and it should be noted that both parties are turned on equally by each other’s genitalia (presumably). but with boobs, we’ve decided that they should be covered since they turn men on, but not women (again, presuming Heterosexuality). How is that fair to women?
/r/MensRights07/10/22 07:03 PM
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Because, it is common sense that we don’t need unnecessary rules governing the individual choice of our clothing. We cover nothing else on the body other than genitalia (that is mandatory). I understand what you are trying to say. But what you don’t realize is the argument I presented has lead organically to you refuting the point that only genitalia should be covered. So you either need to provide a reason why the OUGHT to be covered, or, call into question why we cover anything to begin with, …
/r/MensRights07/10/22 06:58 PM
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That is a straw man logical fallacy. The discussion is whether boobs should be covered along with other genitalia; not if we should cover things that aren’t classified as genitalia. It is a tautology to say genitalia is just a word, as I can say anything is just a word and it would be true. Your statements are just words. You’re having trouble giving an argument as to why they should be covered, so now you’re attempting to abandon this discussion and start a new one under the presupposition that…
/r/MensRights07/10/22 06:50 PM
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Why do we cover the penis and vagina? The common denominator is genitalia. So that’s implying genitalia should be covered. But my argument is that titties aren’t genitalia, therefore they aren’t sharing the same common denominator as the objects we cover.
/r/MensRights07/10/22 06:41 PM
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That’s what makes them genitals, which is synonymous with private parts, no?
/r/MensRights07/10/22 06:39 PM
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Of course I think that. Our penis doesn’t go inside titties. Unless you like that, but not mandatory to reproduce. They are however, necessary for breast feeding babies. Therefore, since they aren’t required for intercourse, but are necessary to provide for offspring, they shouldn’t be covered. That’s my reasoning.
/r/MensRights07/10/22 06:36 PM
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You can’t set the standards of social conduct based on what men are turned on by. That actually IS sexist and unfair to women.
/r/MensRights07/10/22 06:33 PM
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You are the problem with this community and the reason nobody takes it seriously.
/r/MensRights07/10/22 06:31 PM
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Gold
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 05:40 AM
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Where’s the p-value and methods of this study? I’m in serious doubt of the contents of that article
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 08:42 PM
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Are y’all being serious right now? I have to consider your feelings before I ask for advice? Are you really that sensitive
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 11:38 AM
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I’ll answer with a question. The vast majority of people who do OLD are male, something above 70 percent. It seems as if women should be in the ideal environment OLD, abundant choice without forced interaction. However, it is a well known axiom that most men on those apps are just looking to fuck/pump and dump. Those men do not have the qualities of a good partner at all, and women know this. So then, how can women simultaneously say men on these apps are garbage and be driven to the point of pa…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 05:53 PM
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Dead giveaway that these friends you speak of actually aren’t attracting high value men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 05:45 PM
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This is the reply I was looking for mostly but don’t have time to write/analyze. Spot on
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 05:36 PM
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Yeah maybe later after my day I’ll come back and show you why this is if someone else didn’t summarize it by then.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 05:34 PM
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There’s so much incorrect and backwards in this post that I don’t know where to start nor have time to comment. But I’m hoping other commenters immediately understand what I’m saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 05:32 PM
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Meant to reply to auto mod who locked the discussion, my B.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 05:29 PM
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Women are literally allowed to comment? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 04:41 PM
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Yeah, I try to block out those PUA-esque thoughts as much as I can and let my integrity and personality lead the conversation naturally. I guess I was wondering if it's commonly known that it's rude to not compliment someone back after, or if that is shallow since it would be "forced" as a reciprocation. Example, I was wondering if she was walking back thinking, "Dang, I wish he woulda said something nice about me too, oh well." But my gut feeling is I completely agree with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 02:36 PM
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Some dudes really can’t. I know them personally. In fact so many men are clueless about this stuff you’re the one who seems a bit out of touch here, lol no offense. But yeah that’s the issue, tons of guys are being raised to be afraid to talk to women thus isolating themselves and becoming hermits with no experience. You’re a woman so of course it’s easy for you to comprehend.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 04:19 AM
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This. Those thirsty examples come from the tier of women who you wouldn’t wanna sleep with. It’s weirdly a beautiful economic balance, like yin and Yang. The key is to capitalize on the opportunities with balance, the right amount of initial interest and the right amount of grace/hard to get. Those are truly rare and always result in a great hookup or great relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 03:54 AM
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Damn this was a great thread but you kinda missed his point with this reply. I’m on his wavelength here. He clearly understands what those differences are, he’s asking you to momentarily empathize with those who don’t and provide examples for them to go off of, which would help uninterested women with annoying attention from clueless dudes and also help men who need guidance.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 03:48 AM
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Oh wow I’m actually a dumbass and missed the presupposition part, my bad
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/22 03:04 PM
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Oh wow the sheer LEAPS and BOUNDS you just made, so every male group that is woman-infiltrated is fundamentally oppressive, and they join those groups to end oppression. What a fucking joke who actually believes that
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/22 02:43 PM
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Sure. The point is women do it more often despite having less inconvenience. Bitching is human, but the issue here is in the disparity between the two sets.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 06:31 AM
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Other than manipulating control of the entire dating scene and literally having men at their fingertips, nothing
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 09:59 PM
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What the hell does this even say
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 09:57 PM
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Yes. And?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 09:55 PM
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Tbf people tend to regard men who are assertive, to the point, and not concerned with others’ opinions as assholes. Everyone just wants everyone else to be very nice and kind all the time. Some people just aren’t like that. Those are the people girls are drawn to. So when she says assholes, understand that girls call guys who have these qualities assholes.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 04:19 AM
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It has nothing to do with preferences, it’s about establishing a pattern of behavior in young women in our modern Western society
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 04:16 AM
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I can tell by you quoting and emphasizing the comments regarding the men present there that you’re insecure about cheating. No need to feign concern over her safety. That being said, the person in this example is insecure about her being out with the girls. A man who’s secure with himself knows that if he wants to break up with her, it’s not a problem because there are plenty of girls out there who want him. Likewise, most girls don’t want to do anything that would violate the trust her and this…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 06:37 PM
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I agree with you, I just think women had a tendency to resist that urge more in older eras and the advent of social media is making it easier than ever, thus we’re noticing it far more often. But the truth remains that hypergamy is real. So yeah I agree with you for sure
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 06:27 PM
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Men are the gatekeepers of commitment, women are the gatekeepers of sex. Their dating experiences are complimentary, not equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 08:49 PM
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That an n=1 anecdote means literally nothing compared to statistics? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 08:46 PM
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Oh of course, it’s super toxic and frankly a disappointment that it happens. I attribute a lot of this to social media influence in the lives of 18-25 yr olds (I’m in this category). As time goes on I only see this devolving though. I really wish it wasn’t the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 07:18 PM
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Can you specifically describe your experience? Not trying to say that what you saw is fake, but I am still asserting that is a far, far rarer scenario. Generally men are attached like crazy at first while the girl is having a field day.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 07:16 PM
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Well that’s the thing, the vast majority of women actually do need backup options because they don’t want to be single. Even if they consider themselves single they are most likely pondering a relationship with somebody. Now I know there are exceptions to every trend, but I am here to say that the vast majority do need backup options because they don’t want to lose the emotional or material benefits of a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 12:54 AM
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My and countless other mens’ experience. Men who actively date and have sex with women understand this. There is no scientific way to analyze this, it’s observed through experience. I can personally attest to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 09:58 PM
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Well it certainly is my personal experience. So it’s my reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 09:57 PM
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This is an ideal scenario for sure, but in dating today this almost never how it plays out in reality. You’re better off accepting that your girl will have backup options if you slip and lose what made you attract her to begin with. In fact, for me it’s motivating to stay on top of my frame, appearance, and resources because it’s a subtle reminder to her that I have options a man. A man having options is far more rare than a girl having options, and maintaining that is more likely to keep the re…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 06:47 PM
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I’m not sure if you realize this, but women almost always have backups while In committed relationships. This is why most relationships end with the girl either branch swinging or straight up rebounding if they happen to not have a backup at that moment. It’s just part of dating nowadays, you have to accept as a high value man that If you start to slip and lose what made you attract her in the first place, that she will begin to look elsewhere while reaping the benefits of the relationship in ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 06:44 PM
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Women are the gatekeepers of sex while men are the gatekeepers of commitment. I completely agree with your sentiment but the flip side is these girls will have a harder and harder time maintaining a quality relationship with an actual high value man over time. Likewise men who display beta traits (wanting to commit and support every girl) will have a difficult time getting sex from women. There’s definitely two sides to the coin, I’ve witnessed it myself as someone who used to be very beta and n…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 06:40 PM
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So what exactly do you plan to do about that, personally? We can make our struggles known to the world while simultaneously doing our best to carry ourselves in a respectful manner.
/r/MensRights29/04/22 02:16 AM
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Damn. Reading this comments y’all are down tremendously. OPs viewpoint has always been my perspective. Lead by example and show rather than rant why you believe what you believe. Frankly, If you guys want real change, and not just to argue with women and have GOTCHA moments, you need to step up your game and get an actual life.
/r/MensRights26/04/22 03:42 AM
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Touché. It can become part of your character through experience. The first step is your mindset and attitude. Then the application of your experiences. You first must accept though that you would be perfectly happy never having a woman in your life again. Only then will you realize you don’t need anyone else to be satisfied. That’s what’s attractive to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 11:39 PM
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The solution is not to be desperate, period. It’s not something that’s taught to you, it’s an innate quality of your character.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 07:59 AM
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Intellectualizing a simple topic is by definition a fallacy. Learn how to write
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 12:46 AM
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You are severely intellectualizing this to the point of nonsense, it’s no secret that women have to succeed in ways other than brute force and physical influence, such as cunning and psychological control. It’s much simpler than you’re making it out to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 10:10 AM
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First part is spot on, but it has nothing to do with wanting to be “chosen for wHo tHeY aRE”, it’s simply that desperation is repulsive to women. It implies that a man has been denied attraction by other women, which is a major turn off for girls. Girls seek out guys who attract other girls, like a positive feedback loop. They want a man they can be proud of, not someone who nobody wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 10:00 AM
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When women say “personality,” what they really mean is your frame and confidence level, or the way you carry yourself as a man. You can be a great looking dude but since you’re a total pushover as a man, women aren’t attracted to you. Frame and an unshakeable presence are the main governing factors for a woman’s level of attraction, looks are just icing on the cake. Girls might SAY they like guys who look like this or look like that, but when it comes down to face-to-face interactions, when pres…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 08:28 PM
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A bad boy from the perspective of the girl is someone who doesn’t put up with her bullshit, in fact, he calls her out on it unapologetically. Tends to engage in risk-taking behavior or hobbies, generally lives a more dangerous lifestyle or would prefer to. Doesn’t confirm to typical social norms, I.e. would be the type to stand up to someone publicly rather than just let it go. Probably only has a few close friends, most would see him as mysterious or elusive. Probably has been through a lot of …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/22 08:18 AM
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Absolutely not, single mothers almost always come with a shit Ton of red flags and baggage. Wouldn’t even consider it
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/22 08:12 AM
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