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Yeah I mean it just seems like a thing only a Karen would whine abt.. if there’s a bag or towel in my way and I know the gym doesn’t allow reserving a machine, I’m just gonna move it. I also don’t pay attention to other ppl’s feet in the gym unless it’s a hot chick and I want to look so… like really who cares. 🤷‍♂️ Is this the kind of thing an employee needs to go enforce.. like it’s not a gym for toddlers.
/r/PussyPassDenied01/10/23 02:18 AM
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Who cares though? Like none of those rules even affect anyone else. They all seem dumb.
/r/PussyPassDenied30/09/23 08:32 PM
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That’s a shame. ☹️
/r/PussyPassDenied03/02/23 08:10 AM
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should be higher lol I mean it's great that you have a lot of opinions on how things "should be." You're free to run your company like that, and see how well it does. All I'm saying is this is how *I* run my businesses. Since the changes during the Obama era, part time workers are the way to go. Only key positions where we need to retain a specific good person are full-time with good benefits. The vast majority of positions are what I like to call "cogs." Completely replaceable with basically an…
/r/PussyPassDenied15/05/22 04:59 PM
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lol doesn't work like that because there's still only 3 shifts on at once (each worker has a 1/n chance of calling off PER ASSIGNED SHIFT - irrespective of how many total employees you have). You just have 3 spare workers for when someone does call off. Also, when ur only giving them 20 hours a week, they tend to be desperate for shifts and glad to take them. You're right that it does add some administrative burden of training more ppl. But this is not really an issue when we are talking about u…
/r/PussyPassDenied13/05/22 10:01 PM
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Setting a standard of having extra staff on board to be able to handle unexpected situations would handle this. Odds are you wouldn't like my solution. I'm not gonna get any less greedy just because you and other commies think I should. We already solved this problem a long time ago actually - by hiring only part-time employees. Under 30h a week, that way we don't have to pay benefits, and we have 25% more people on the books who can be called-in as needed. And ofc it isn't written anywhere, but…
/r/PussyPassDenied13/05/22 06:25 PM
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But if Thursday and Monday are holidays, it doesn't take a genius to figure out everyone wants Friday off. If I don't "get approved," then I'll have to use my cis male period leave. Thems the breaks. 🤷🏼‍♂️
/r/PussyPassDenied13/05/22 06:19 PM
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You sound like one of those people who thinks Walmart could just pay their current employees $15/hr like Costco does and everything would work out great. The reason some businesses can pay more than others is because they choose better people - people worth the higher pay. The fact is, there are a lot more people in the world who are worth $5-10/hr than are worth $15, and they need SOMEWHERE to work.
/r/PussyPassDenied13/05/22 06:15 PM
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The good news, for small business owners in America at least, is that thanks to all the regulations, part time employees are MUCH cheaper than full time employees. There's no good reason not to have 7 or 8 people on the books at 15-20h/week instead of 3 full time 40+ hour guys. And then when Sara the fluzy takes period leave in Myrtle Beach, you have a nice pool of people to draw replacements from, desperate to take any free shifts since their part time employment won't cover their bills. 😁
/r/PussyPassDenied13/05/22 06:11 PM
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But I wouldn't have 3 employees that are all expected to work 100% of the time. I would have 6 employees and schedule them all for 20 hours. Then when someone calls out, there are 3 potential replacements before I have to come in and take the shift myself.
/r/PussyPassDenied13/05/22 06:03 PM
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Then pay for the high-end private care you want. Public hospitals have to operate within budget constraints.
/r/PussyPassDenied13/05/22 06:01 PM
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Trust in claims of abuse toward a woman, is no doubt gonna take a step back after this. "Is she pulling a Heard maybe?" Good. We need a lot more skepticism of women's claims in general. Abuse claims, even when "true," are almost always greatly exaggerated.
/r/PussyPassDenied13/05/22 05:34 PM
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Well, I am not an expert on F-F dating or the various flavors of homosexuality, but if you were a man, I would ask you why you care she has a boyfriend? Hot girls usually have boyfriends. I haven't found a noticeable difference in success rate in seducing taken girls vs single girls. In 2020, a majority of my new lays were married. Proceed with aggressively pressing your new lead into meeting up with you at your house or w/e the most convenient location for you to have sex is and see what happen…
/r/seduction02/08/21 11:50 PM
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Step 0 is to make sure your dates are in a location sex can happen: your house, or worst case a coffee shop/small bar right by your house so you can easily pull her back without getting in a vehicle. I always hug the girl immediately upon meeting her for the date. If the hug feels on, I'll immediately escalate from there with dirty talk and a kiss test. If she feels a bit stiff, then I'll lead her by the hand to do w/e the date activity was (drink wine or w/e). I physically lead her to where I w…
/r/seduction02/08/21 11:43 PM
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How would you have escalated during the date? Hug her at the very start of the date, and keep things physically moving forward throughout. I would get as physical as she's comfortable with in public. No way would we have stayed there an entire 4 hours. From minute 1 you should start seeding the pull back to your place mentioning activities you can do there. Probly after you finish your 2nd drink at the bar would be the time to pull. You also want to control the pull and logistics. You need to le…
/r/seduction02/08/21 11:32 PM
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This is terrible advice because at an advanced level, game is all about logistics. Dinner and a movie provide terrible logistics cuz you're locked into a situation where you're in public for a long time and you have to maintain a good vibe for several hours. Why make all that extra work for yourself? Furthermore, that's a super high pressure date for a girl. She doesn't want to get locked into having to spend a long time with you. If things are awkward, she wants to be able to bail quickly. So t…
/r/seduction02/08/21 10:56 PM
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Your frame is bad. You are projecting female values onto this man, just as many men project male values onto women when they lament their looks or height or w/e. 90% of men aren't going to understand your sUbTlE hInTs. If you want to hook up with this dude, send him a photo of you dressed up in a bar bathroom with your ass in the mirror and say "wyd?" Then ask him to meet you there.
/r/seduction02/08/21 05:57 AM
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You just have to do it. Touch her. There's no magic secret. When you meet the woman for your date (hopefully at your house), immediately hug her. If the hug feels on, immediately go for more. If it doesn't, lead her by the hand to do whatever the date activity is (drink wine or w/e). Put the music on, pour her glass of wine, and put your arm around her while you talk. Put your hand on her leg when the vibe is up, and soon after that do a kiss test and kiss her. etc.
/r/seduction02/08/21 05:49 AM
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Because she went out with you hoping to get railed, and you spent 4 hours together and didn't even kiss her. So she was interested, and now she's bored. But it might not be unsalvageable. You're def. doing damage control though.
/r/seduction02/08/21 05:36 AM
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There's no reason to care if she's into you or not. Why couldn't you set the date to your house? Was the bar near your house? Why couldn't you pull in 4 hours?? How did 4 hours go by with alcohol flowing and you seem to have not escalated at all or started making out or doing anything? Just hug at the end? Moving forward, just try to set another date (asap - message her in the morning, do not let days go by as other suggest because the lead will go cold in less than a week), this time at your ho…
/r/seduction02/08/21 05:33 AM
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First date should be at your house, or worst case scenario a coffee shop/juice stand that is very close to your house so you can pull her there quickly.
/r/seduction02/08/21 05:22 AM
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Yep. This is a nice guy red flag. The 2nd date should be after you fucked her on the first date, if you want to keep her around. You're escalating way too slowly. Most of the women you're losing after you start dating are because they are getting bored.
/r/seduction02/08/21 05:21 AM
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All of those examples are super insulting. A neg is not an insult. Somehow that got misinterpreted in the community.
/r/seduction02/08/21 05:16 AM
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It only pisses you off because his line is super cringe. A better example is like when I saw the Subway Girl dancing around to the music as I walked in and told her, "You seem so fun and bubbly. I saw you dancing around, shakin that pancake, when I came in." It's kind of a neg or push pull or w/e u want to call it. I hate those outdated terms, it's just a good tease that conveys the right sexual energy.
/r/seduction02/08/21 05:10 AM
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Gross. Your line is super creepy. What the woman above said is much better stuff. You can and should sexualize in all situations - in the grocery store, in the sub shop, on the street, in any bar, etc.
/r/seduction02/08/21 05:03 AM
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It's not that you would "lie" on purpose. It's that the way women backwards rationalize the reasons why they had sex with someone often is not in line with reality. And in fact, good pickup artists will create a narrative for the woman that makes her feel less slutty because that's just good game. There was this woman on here the other day saying how she hates being cold approached and not to bother women. Then she went on to admit that she met her husband cuz he cold approached her bUt He WaS s…
/r/seduction02/08/21 04:48 AM
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The OP's post is correct, but the conclusion most people seem to be drawing from it is not. It doesn't mean she's not interested therefore I should give up and stop trying. "Too busy" is an objection you need to handle by calling it out and assessing what the real issue is and working from there.
/r/seduction02/08/21 04:37 AM
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What you're probably missing is pushing for compliance even when you're not getting IOIs. It's not even really about if she's into you, but if she'll comply. Even girls who are very standoffish (common among Asians), might close if you can make it easier for her to go along than to resist. Once she's back at the house doing shots or drinking wine, then they start to warm up.
/r/seduction01/08/21 05:24 PM
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Yes. I'm extremely pushy. If she says I'm in a hurry, I will physically stop her (gently) if she tries to keep walking and repeat, "Yeah, I only have a second, but I want to meet you real quick." Boyfriend.. depends on the situation, I may just ignore that she said it, or make a joke about it or w/e. Eg: Me: So what's your ethnicity? Her: I have a boyfriend. Me: haha that's cool, so you look pretty exotic, what did you say your ethnicity was? --- Me: Hey, can I meet you real quick? Her: I have a…
/r/seduction31/07/21 08:46 PM
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So yeah, ask yourself, why is the problem then telling a woman beforehand your intent, if you think that it is okay to do? It comes out as extremely creepy. Because if that's the first thing I say to her, she's probably going to say, "No.. this and that." It's always better to ask forgiveness than permission, and with my strategy I have a 100% chance of getting her number, which I can always convert later down the road even if she gets extremely pissed right then (not gonna happen, but theoretic…
/r/seduction31/07/21 06:16 AM
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Hey another person who can't read. lol. I said, "when were are having a chill time" meaning talking about life and relaxing, etc.
/r/seduction31/07/21 06:05 AM
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Target is the term for the girl you want to sleep with, and isolation is one of the most important concepts in pickup - getting the girl first into a 1 on 1 talk near her friends, then moving her away from her friends. You should probly familiarize yourself with the basic terminology before going on a rant. take her somewhere that is "closer to your car or sex location" Well yeah. The goal is to fuck her right? You're not gonna do that on the beach. So to execute the pull, you have to move her f…
/r/seduction31/07/21 06:01 AM
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I'm curious, why don't you like banging 20yos? I'm almost 40 and have a 20yo single mom on rotation. Not only is she fit, beautiful, and does her makeup like a stripper everyday, but when we're just having a chill time, the kind of advice and guidance I can give her for her life makes me almost feel like she's my daughter. It's really an amazing feeling (esp for a guy with a savior complex like me haha).
/r/seduction30/07/21 07:52 PM
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Your post is amazing. Cuz you literally say you don't like being cold approached, and then admit you married a cool dude who cold approached you. The lesson here for any guy reading this is never pay any attention to what women SAY they want. Its only loosely related to what she will actually do. I'm also unconcerned with what any particular target likes or dislike. I act based on what I want and assume every girl I talk to already wants me. She's a big girl and can tell me to go away if she doe…
/r/seduction30/07/21 07:25 PM
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I only get a date about every 8-9 numbers, but I'm getting numbers on 70% of approaches. I also close nearly all of my dates (90%), so that also makes me think you're just being too cautious in general. Don't wait for green lights from the girl. What do you mean by more agressive? Your homework is make sure you tell every girl who talks to you for more than 30s to put her number in your phone. Don't walk away without going for it.
/r/seduction30/07/21 07:15 PM
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I'm curious why you think putting the your number in her phone crosses a boundary. Would you get upset if you let a cute girl borrow your phone, and she added her contact info to it and started flirting with you? I def. wouldn't. That belief comes from a place of low value, where you're assuming the girl isn't going to like you or want to know you. My assumption is always the opposite of this: she's already into me, and the reason I'm talking to her is to find out her logistics so we can go fuck…
/r/seduction30/07/21 06:32 PM
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Bro Tinder doesn't work for you unless you're a Chad or white. In the West that's how it works lol. This is what's called in psychology, a limiting belief. It isn't true. Just something you've told yourself so you can have an excuse to avoid getting good at Tinder. The secret to Tinder is get some cool, properly fitting clothes, and get a professional photo shoot with you doing different cool activities in your different outfits. You'll want outfits that show you in different situations like one…
/r/seduction30/07/21 06:19 PM
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goody-two-shoes is an english expression which refers to generally a child who is so well behaved that the other children tease him for it. rule follower just means someone who follows rules So basically that's just teasing her for wanting to follow all the rules. She won't want to be labeled that and will leave with me.
/r/seduction30/07/21 06:11 PM
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Question -> she answers -> you dhv and see if she hooks on the topic Me: Do you like sushi? Her: Yes Me: Awesome, Japanese is my fav. cuisine. You like real sushi though or are you a California roll girl? haha Her: haha oh mostly just the rolls Me: Such a basic white girl haha. That's okay we can expand your palate. Check out my photos from Misaki in Singapore. (shows her phone and explains what everything is) --- Me: You look fit. (squeeze her arm) Ohh yeah damn.. I'm not gonna mess with you.. …
/r/seduction30/07/21 06:08 PM
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Sounds like you're no where near aggressive enough about closing because you're getting "too many" dates for your numbers compared to the top guys. So that tells me you're probably only going for the number when you feel like it's a sure thing and the girl is obviously into you.
/r/seduction30/07/21 06:10 AM
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Well if you're dating someone for 2 months without banging her, that sounds like a middle school relationship so... That should just never happen. You need to talk about sex, and physically escalate on the girl.
/r/seduction30/07/21 05:31 AM
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The pickup term is make the interaction man to woman. It's a sales process. The product you're selling is sex with you. The woman is going to be annoyed if you talk to her for 30 minutes and never mention having sex with you or anything related to that. That's what women mean by, "Don't waste my time."
/r/seduction30/07/21 04:22 AM
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I think this has got to be the first time I've heard a dude in the pickup community make it sound like a negative thing that a woman has less clothes on. And you should never make a woman make any decisions - this applies to far more than just pickup. When you get the number, that's because you can't pull her because the logistics are bad, and she should never be faced with making that decision. You just give her small compliance tests, starting with, "The sun is in my eyes, move over here," and…
/r/seduction30/07/21 04:20 AM
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All of your posts read like you want to have witty conversations with women. Maybe you're not on the right forum, cuz the objective here is to bang out hot women.
/r/seduction30/07/21 04:14 AM
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What's wrong with white sneakers? When I'm slummin' it, I wear Ralph Lauren Polo Thompson Canvas Sneakers, in white. I read that white sneakers class up any outfit, but I'm no expert on fashion.
/r/seduction30/07/21 03:28 AM
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Stop worrying about age so much. Women of all different ages have all different personalities. There's very little correlation. It's like saying "Asian chicks are submissive." It's kinda true, but there's plenty who aren't and plenty of submissive blacks too. Just a stereotype. But to answer your question, you'll meet the older crowd at lounges and sports bars rather than clubs. Lower target density though, but good for weeknights (gotta know which bars on which nights). Also the apps aren't bad…
/r/seduction30/07/21 02:56 AM
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Nothing about good game is remotely honest though. I think the term is extremely accurate. If you like azn girls like me, you know that most of the 10s wake up looking like 6s. 🤣
/r/seduction30/07/21 02:34 AM
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Okay that's cool. I'm just saying you're giving up a lot of girls you could be sleeping with for no real reason, but that's up to you. It only takes a few seconds to fix a big inefficiency in your text game.
/r/seduction30/07/21 01:06 AM
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Ofc you agree with everything except the part that takes balls and actually gets you the results. That's why you're not sleeping with a lot of women.
/r/seduction30/07/21 01:01 AM
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Well, since I put my contact in her phone earlier, I would say, "Btw, I put my info in your phone earlier. I knew you wouldn't want to lose touch with me haha. I'm kpopdj." Then she's gonna say her name and shake my hand. I'll complement her handshake, or tell her it sucked and make her try again depending which it was. Then I would ask, "So what do you have going on today after this?" Because I want to know if I can pull her after our 15m vaccine wait is over. If she says some version of nothin…
/r/seduction30/07/21 12:57 AM
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Stop watching Todd V hahaha.. best advice. First time I saw his channel, I thought it was satire and he was gay, till I realized it was serious.
/r/seduction29/07/21 09:51 PM
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Don't look for these silly "choosing signals." That's the best part about being a man who does cold approach. Unlike on the apps, you get to choose which women you talk to.
/r/seduction29/07/21 09:47 PM
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Yeah. Essentially the OP accidentally did an indirect situational opener, without thinking of it that way. Then he failed to ever make it man-to-woman and start building compliance (because he just wasn't thinking about it). But he realized that since he wasn't thinking about sex, it actually wasn't a big deal at all to open the girl. None of that changes the proper way to continue the pickup for the next time OP finds himself in a situation like that or for other guys who want to use his insigh…
/r/seduction29/07/21 09:24 PM
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Obviously if she saw me, then I would immediately tell her. "btw you're really fuckin cute. I just added myself to your contacts, cuz I knew you wouldn't wanna lose touch. This is me, kpopdj - cute vaccinated boy, haha. What's your name?"
/r/seduction29/07/21 08:39 PM
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No this is wrong. Pick-up is a form of sales. The product you're selling is sex with you. What you're proposing is just as weird as if you were standing on the lot and a car salesman said to you, "Hey buddy, will you help me push this car out of the way?" You help him, and then he goes, "okay cool, What's your name, address and SSN, we'll go run your credit." Even if you do want to buy a car, he's asking for way too much compliance way too soon.
/r/seduction29/07/21 08:30 PM
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Guess it depends on the logistics of the place. When I got vaccinated, they had everyone sit in a chair for 15m afterwards. If that was the case, and she was a few ppl ahead of me in line, I would just pull up a chair right next to her after getting vaccinated and talk. But I wouldn't give her phone back without adding my contact to it and texting myself. Wouldn't want some random shit to happen and wind up not having her number. Whether or not I'd say something right then or wait until after ge…
/r/seduction29/07/21 08:27 PM
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99% that's gonna get a no. Don't do stuff like this. It's perhaps the most common mistake doing these huge jumps in compliance, when the proper way to game is to make the smallest possible step and do them frequently. Going from borrowing her phone for a legitimate need to a coffee date with no steps in between is ridiculous.
/r/seduction29/07/21 08:20 PM
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999/1000 women you approach for any reason do not want to fuck you - yet. What's your point?
/r/seduction29/07/21 08:05 PM
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haha I think you don't know how to read. I advised him AS an 18yo, that if it's legal in his area (guess you missed that part - it is most places, but not CA for example), that hs girls would respond better to him in general. At no point did I advocate for any rape.
/r/seduction29/07/21 07:41 PM
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You're wrong. It's really that simple. On Tuesday, I hooked up with a number close from Sat. night. Had to double text her on Sunday, and then triple text her on Monday after the convo had died to get the meetup planned. If your strat is so great, I just wanna know how many of the girls that didn't reply to you at first did you end up hooking up with by not sending another message so that you could aVoId LoOkInG dEsPeRaTe?
/r/seduction29/07/21 07:28 PM
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Well pickup is like sales. The product is sex with you. You can't expect to find any buyers, if you're not looking for any. That seems to be step 1 of your issue. There will be many more issues to address... But if you want to actually learn this... Go to a sports bar at 8pm - right now if you're in the east - that is having a wing night tonight and ask a hot girl, "hey can I meet you real quick" then keep talking to her as though she is already your gf until she actively ignores you for 2 sente…
/r/seduction29/07/21 02:20 AM
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Approach every fuckable girl you see within 3s of noticing her.
/r/seduction29/07/21 01:36 AM
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I probly did 2500 approaches before having anything like this. I can count the number of club bathroom/car fucks on one hand out of 201 bodies. You gotta crawl before you can walk and walk before you can run. Do you have the basics down? 3 second rule, smile and eye contact, can vibe and carry the burden, check logistics, baby step compliance if the pull is on, or find common interests and go for the number if her logistics don't work. Where on that list of basics is the sticking point?
/r/seduction29/07/21 01:26 AM
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You're not correct, sorry. If you think that's too intense, I bet you're routinely having women to your house that you don't fuck. You should be closing at least 80% of women who come to your house. If you notice the windows for micro calibrations are already built in. A small takeaway after whispering in her ear, so you can assess if she's overwhelmed or not. A standard kiss test comes next, assuming she's still into it.
/r/seduction29/07/21 12:10 AM
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The calibration comes after you whisper in her ear. When you look at her, you can tell if she's into it or not. You've already taken a step back, so if she is overwhelmed, you've already done a mini-takeaway to let her regain comfort. But if she was into it (highly likely here), you're positioned perfectly to keep escalating. Brushing her hair from her face is the classic kiss test. If a woman lets you touch her face while smiling and holding eye contact, she's almost always ready to be kissed. …
/r/seduction29/07/21 12:07 AM
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Well I don't waste my time on it. After quadrouple texting over a period of 2-3 days, she goes into a mass message group that gets invites to random big parties and large events that I will be at.
/r/seduction29/07/21 12:03 AM
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😎 lol
/r/seduction29/07/21 12:01 AM
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Agree! I'm talking more specifically about retaining the hottest girls. Like I know the 23yo OF model I'm dating doesn't want to watch anime or play video games with me. Financial success will retain them to a point, but when the woman is so hot she could have her pick of billionaires, the sexy lifestyle is more important - how you use the money and other things to have a great time/life.
/r/seduction29/07/21 12:00 AM
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I detailed it above. I'll copy and paste it here for you: Your text should be more along the lines of, "hey this is leoncem. had a great time at ur place last night. [callback humor from something you said that night]. [question about something you talked about that night or just 'how you doin']" If she doesn't reply, follow up in 4-6 hours with "..?" Still no answer, next day, "and the best texter award goes to..." Still no answer, next day, "wow I really didn't take you for the flaky type." On…
/r/seduction28/07/21 11:45 PM
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Sometimes when I see a hot girl, I get annoyed that I have to approach her lol. It's like "ugh.. I just wanted to get some milk bro, now i gotta bang out this girl" lolol
/r/seduction28/07/21 11:35 PM
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lol. When a girl goes out on 2 solo dates with you, then initiates by inviting you straight to her place at night, that's about as close as a woman gets to screaming in your face, "PLEASE FUCK ME BEFORE I DIE OF FRUSTRATION FROM YOU BEING A TOTAL PUSSY" When you first arrive, hug her. While you're hugging her, whisper in her ear, "mmm you smell so fucking good tonight." Step back half a step, smile at her, look into her eyes, brush her hair out of her face. If she's still smiling and holding eye…
/r/seduction28/07/21 03:34 PM
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I occasionally go out with a friend in his late 40s. He pulled a 19yo a couple weeks ago. He doesn't take particularly good care of himself. The nightclub probly becomes less appropriate at some point, but I would imagine in theory you could still do game at upscale lounges, aiming at mostly late 20s girls, well into your 60s. I don't think I've ever seen anyone in their 60s cold approaching, but who knows. Try it and find out for us haha. If you want to do pickup at college, get a backpack, put…
/r/seduction28/07/21 03:26 PM
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I guess it depends on your assessment of the risks vs the gains. It's worth noting that being a successful risk taker is one of the attraction triggers, so guys who are good at this tend to have a dismissive view toward risk anyways. I mean what even is the risk, exactly? Some butthurt Karen files a false allegation? I'm sure that would be annoying and scary during the process, but it really isn't gonna do anything, and I think the odds of it are basically slim to none anyways. Compared to the l…
/r/seduction28/07/21 12:35 PM
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If a woman "out of nowhere" tells you she has a boyfriend, ask yourself why. Have you ever stopped to think why, instead of oh that's rude and hurts my ego. It's because SHE'S NOT INTO YOU. Yes. In fact, if you bothered to actually read my replies in this thread, you'll see I already told the guy exactly why he's getting the bf objection: his initial vibe is off. I very rarely get this, only if I'm on something, in a bad mood, or if the girl came around the corner and startled me and I wasn't in…
/r/seduction28/07/21 12:17 PM
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lol my username is total bs. While I do enjoy some kpop, it's not my main music, I'm not a dj, and I'm in my late 30s. Been doing pickup since I read Mystery Method almost 15 years ago.
/r/seduction28/07/21 12:00 PM
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You def. shouldn't downplay your skills. Play them up as much as is reasonable. Take some really good photos of your cooking and have them on your phone to show girls. I do this all the time, start talking to her about food and what kind of foods she likes (food compatibility is very important to me anyways in a rotation girl, so it's a good topic to go into), and eventually she will like something that I have cooked and then I show her the photo of it and tell her "maybe if you're a good girl, …
/r/seduction28/07/21 11:49 AM
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Get tatted, cool hair style and facial hair, cool accessories (I guess that's part of style, but for example my glasses are wierd and always get complemented. I have a skeleton watch.), smell really good (not just clean, pick out a deodorant and cologne - have hot women help you with this), take care of your teeth (get them straightened and whitened as needed), work on your facial expressions both at rest and while speaking/listening to convey emotions... probly many other things.
/r/seduction28/07/21 11:35 AM
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There's nothing subconscious about it. I'm advising any man reading this, overtly and plain as day, to ignore the feminazi nonsense spewed in our culture. I absolutely don't respect a woman who says she has a boyfriend. First, I didn't ask, so she's rudely changing the topic. Second, she's probably lying, also rude. Third, even if she does, she's probly willing to cheat with the right dude anyways, so why tell me? It's just a shit test that needs to be overcome to move the interaction forward. A…
/r/seduction28/07/21 11:15 AM
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All night game. I don't usually set out to approach during the day, but I do talk to any hot girls I see as I go about my business.
/r/seduction28/07/21 10:55 AM
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There's a lot of sex tourists there, and the women have a default frame that men will just buy them random shit they ask for and generally pay for a lot of things, like a sugar daddy vibe. So a lot of time is wasted frame battling. They're also surprisingly prudish, and I wasn't able to close any of them on the same day. In 2 weeks, the first time I was in Prague, I closed only 1 girl. The second time, I was more prepared in Ukraine I closed 3, all of them required at least 4 dates first
/r/seduction28/07/21 10:42 AM
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Cooking and playing an instrument are both cool. You should talk about these things in set. A great first date for you would be, "you can come over, and I'll let you hear something I've been working on." If you're talking more about retaining girls, then yes, keeping the hottest ones will require some cool lifestyle activities that they can come along to, but it can be as simple as learning about the hidden cool shit within a few hours of you and taking a road trip and going on a little adventur…
/r/seduction28/07/21 10:34 AM
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Not sure, as I have only lived in America. Doing cold approach in Eastern Europe was def significantly more challenging, but I am completely unconcerned with my reputation anyways, so I wasn't thinking of that consideration.
/r/seduction28/07/21 10:15 AM
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70% of approaches should number close, 10% of numbers should close. If girls are rushing off in day game, then you're not physically stopping them or using a false time constraint in your opener. If she says she has a boyfriend, your initial vibe is probably off (most girls who have boyfriends will not say so if your initial vibe is on point - she is going to want to find out more first). But if she does say that, you shouldn't just accept it (never accept a female's unproductive frame). Make su…
/r/seduction28/07/21 10:10 AM
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I think your frame is totally off. Why do you view a man pursuing the things he wants in life, including hot women, to be "tarnishing your reputation?" It's inherently high value to be a social outgoing guy. It's also inherently high value to aggressively pursue your goals. Your post reads like something a feminazi wrote with warped notions of toxic masculinity or w/e. No one is going to think you have a bad reputation except undesirable women that don't have a chance to get with you.
/r/seduction28/07/21 10:07 AM
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How many women have you fucked after she ignored your first text and you never texted her again? I'm guessing 0 or maybe randomly 1, but correct me if I'm wrong.
/r/seduction28/07/21 09:54 AM
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The 5 biological attraction triggers for women are: 1)Pre-selected by women 2)Leader of men 3)Protector of loved ones 4)Successful risk taker 5)Healthy emotions Keep that in mind as you interact with or in front of your peers. Display these characteristics. Embed them into the stories you tell. For example, be the one who leads your group. "We are going to go get some fried dough right now. Lets go" and start walking. Not, "hey do you guys wanna go get some fried dough?" "After we're done in thi…
/r/seduction28/07/21 09:46 AM
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lol really silly advice. Most women want an older man. And also this is a 17yo, which a lot of women will have moralistic issues with, even if it's legal in his location (which it's not in CA and possibly some other restrictive places).
/r/seduction28/07/21 09:41 AM
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Weekend 1: Approached a girl in a club, great banter, danced with her, and ended up making out with her. I text her the next day and no response. Why wasn't this a pull? How many times did you text her? What about the following days? Weekend 2: Met a girl outside of a club and convinced her to go to another bar together. We had some very deep heart to heart moments. She ended up inviting me back to her place where we kissed (no sex). Again, I text her the next day and no response. Why to a bar a…
/r/seduction28/07/21 09:31 AM
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I see where you're coming from, but this isn't right. It's good to pull quickly. 20-30m is about right. Faster than that and you're gonna pull a lot of girls who aren't down. Slower than that and you're just inviting the chance for logistical issues to get in your way. The main issue is your sex locations. If your house is unavailable, then pull to her house. Figuring out if that's possible should be 3rd or 4th sentence out of your mouth upon approach. You should rule out any girl who you can't …
/r/seduction28/07/21 09:07 AM
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LOL... talk about burying the lead. Imagine reading down this thread, puzzled at what this dude could be doing wrong, to find this halfway down the page. 🤣
/r/seduction28/07/21 09:01 AM
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Approach from the front, so they can see you coming in. Be prepared to physically stop them. Sometimes the girl will try to ignore you and sidestep you. I'm always ready for this and it's like a little dance where you step backwards and into her path again, gently touching her elbows to stop her while laughing and repeating your opener. My default opener, if there's nothing else obvious is, "Hey, can I meet your friend real quick?" the most common response is "What?" and you will just repeat you…
/r/seduction28/07/21 08:31 AM
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haha I love this. I'm jealous reading this. Oh to be excited about making women happy for the first time. I'm so cynical about the whole process now lmao. Keep your texting simple and just don't be weird. "hey this is spaceman from [store]. was good 2 meet u yesterday. [call back humor to a joke you made in person]. [question about something you talked about - eg how was your mom's birthday dinner or whatever she said she was doing later that day, nothing super fancy or weird]." Expect her to no…
/r/seduction28/07/21 08:17 AM
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I mean if she was interested, she would've made time to go out with me. This isn't at all true for girls, especially hot ones. First of all, women in general are not emotionally consistent like men. We look at a woman, talk to her for 10 minutes, and have pretty much decided what we think about her, and then that stays mostly the same barring her doing something exceptional for us, making a big physical improvement, or fucking up. A woman's "state" is always in flux. She can see you as a 4 when …
/r/seduction28/07/21 07:22 AM
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When I started cold approaching, I went so fast into interview mode, now I am trying to do cold reads and talk about her. In 80% of the cases I do 2-3 cold reads and then I am asking and what she is doing now, but its more like I dont know what to say/to talk about so I ask these dump question and she feels that. After you've gone through the basics of finding out her logistics and what your common interests are (so that you know what excuse to use to pull her/set the date) a really simple patte…
/r/seduction27/07/21 11:41 PM
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Why do you think it's harder to meet girls by yourself? Unless I have a female pivot or an advanced wing, I'd rather be by myself. There's a lot more bs that can go wrong when you're with a group of ppl, especially if they don't know game. One great tactic for isolating the target is, "Lets go for a walk, I want to introduce you to my friends." Spoiler alert, you're there alone and will never find these friends, and you can just lead the girl wherever you want (closer to your car/sex location/wh…
/r/seduction27/07/21 11:21 PM
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I wouldn't have "dated her a few times." First date would have been straight to my house, where she would get banged out. After she didn't reply, I would have continued texting her until she replied instead of letting it go dead. (This is the number 1 mistake I'm seeing every dude on this forum make). I wouldn't have had snapchat in the first place because it's counterproductive to pickup. At this point, I would return her call, tell her how I'm doing, reassure her that I'm not mad just was busy…
/r/seduction27/07/21 10:50 PM
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Skiing, soccer, rock climbing, working on old cars - basically anything that involves you being active or athletic or doing a stereotypically manly activity. Like just imagine if you had a girlfriend would she be proud to tell her friends about your hobbies? Oh my man plays video games and eats Cheetos all day. Not sexy. Oh yeah my man was fishing and when he gets back I'm going to cook up his catch. Much more attractive.
/r/seduction27/07/21 09:46 PM
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While on the surface this would seem true, in America it's considered predatory to stay sober and pick up drunk girls. If her friends know you aren't drinking, it's gonna be very hard to isolate and pull. It will also make your target's guard go up, further reducing your odds.
/r/seduction27/07/21 09:41 PM
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You don't have to drink at the bar. Order a club soda with lime and pretend it's a vodka/soda. If you want to do a shot with a girl, order a green tea or white gummy bear. There's like 1/4 of a shot in either. It really is the best place to learn. All these pussy approaches will slow your progress. The biggest part of game is literally just learning to man up. Nearly every dude on this forum who asks a question is coming from a frame of, "here are my particular set of fears - how can I get women…
/r/seduction27/07/21 07:20 PM
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Introverted doesn't mean what you think it means. Introverted just means you lose energy from social interaction, while extroverted is the opposite. You can be a shy extrovert or a flamboyant introvert. What you're describing sounds like social anxiety - a mental disorder that needs to be dealt with, not a personality trait to accept. Additionally, if you want cool women in your life, you have to become a cool dude. The only things you do besides work can't be poker and video games. Find sexier …
/r/seduction27/07/21 07:04 PM
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lol they were totally into it, I got a sneaky IG close when the bf wasn't paying attention. This was at 4am and everyone was drunk so please don't do this sober in the middle of the afternoon lmao. The girl I already pulled was passed out in my car.
/r/seduction27/07/21 06:26 PM
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What if I approached over a few months and had no success, could I viably male a post detailing "cold approach doesn't work" just bc it didn't work for me specifically? No, because I've been involved with the pickup community for a long time, and seen countless 30+ year old virgins start banging out a new chick every week after little more than a Tinder makeover and him learning how to text. It's a skill like any other. Would you sit there and say, "No dude... not everyone can learn to be good a…
/r/seduction27/07/21 03:48 AM
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Your goal seems a bit unclear to me. Are you tryna hit? If so, this seems like an inefficient path to it, but then again, I imagine your logistics are more complicated being 17 and presumably you both live with parents. Make sure you have a plan from start to finish. Where is your sex location. How are you going to gain compliance to move her from the movie to that location in small steps. Where are you going to talk in a semi-private setting where you can sexualize the conversation so that sex …
/r/seduction27/07/21 02:55 AM
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a girl with police (blowout), hahaha... dude that's fuckin legendary. "Hey officer, can I meet your suspect real quick." lmfao
/r/seduction27/07/21 02:47 AM
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I'm super average, maybe below average by looks and if I had sent my pic, she would've ghosted me, so instead I ghosted her and didn't send her my photo. Maybe that was a wrong call? Well look at it this way, if she asks for a pic and you don't respond, your odds of banging her are basically 0%. If you do respond, your odds go way up to some non-0 number. The only thing to be careful of here is not to jump through too many of her hoops without getting compliance in return. My girl was 22, very s…
/r/seduction27/07/21 02:37 AM
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So this is a case where she wrestled the frame from you. Never let girls win the frame unless her frame is useful to you. When you want to keep banging and she's saying some shit about her last break up and blah blah emotional nonsense, that is simply not useful. It doesn't matter if it's true or what she rEaLlY bElIeVeS. The only thing that matters is that it's not conducive to what you want. A female's emotions are not like a man's. We are stable and persistent in how we feel about people and …
/r/seduction27/07/21 02:15 AM
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It does work for everyone, if you put in the effort to get good at it. Ask yourself why you care so much if you're deemed creepy, annoying, rude, unacceptable, or whatever else. Who gives a fuck that some random hot girl has deemed you something? fwiw, 70% of my daytime approaches end in number closes (probly closer to 85% if you don't count the ones whose husband or bf was right next to her). Obviously when you first start out, you'll be 90% deemed creepy. Takes practice like any skill. But the…
/r/seduction27/07/21 02:05 AM
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The pickup lingo for that feeling is "approach anxiety." The fastest way to get over it is to purposely do ridiculous approaches with the goal of pissing off the girl, until your brain gets trained to understand that nothing bad is going to happen.
/r/seduction27/07/21 02:01 AM
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I've had the occasional Karen start paying too much attention in the grocery store. As you get better, you learn how to deal with it. Basically, never let someone you don't know come within 6ft of your target without stopping them and addressing them. If the person is just casually observing though, just make sure your target's back is to them, and you can either just let them be if they seem passive, or move your target somewhere else. One situation this happens with a lot - to the point where …
/r/seduction27/07/21 01:57 AM
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Sorry for the late reply. I got banned for calling a pussy a pussy. First of all, there's no chance she isn't going to remember me, but I don't try to overcomplicate things with text. I actually just had this happen Sat. though, 3:15 in the morning, girl couldn't even stand on her own. I texted her - Me: "hey this is kpopdj from [bar we were at]. good 2 meet u last night. i wouldnt be awake 4 the party neway so glad we werent invited haha" (a call back to a stupid joke she made about how she got…
/r/seduction27/07/21 12:28 AM
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I'm very thankful I only wasted 1 semester in college. I've been living the party life for 20 years now. I totally love it. Soon as I get done smokin this joint, I'm gonna join the 25yo blonde I already plowed out in my bed. 😉
/r/seduction22/07/21 08:45 AM
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Not sure why you think that. I have a 20yo 5'1" 95lb. heroin chic blonde on rotation. I'm 38yo, 5'8", and slightly chubby. She dumped her 22yo black 6'2" D2 b-ball player boyfriend to be with me (even though I told her she could keep him if she wanted to, cuz idgaf and am not jealous). I'm not some retard who thinks looks don't matter, but I've also seen my balding friend who is almost 60 pull a teen. So when you tell me yOu HaVe To Be GoOd LoOkInG, I know from experience that you're cappin. Yea…
/r/seduction22/07/21 08:42 AM
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I would try it because it's better than just walking away with nothing or with just a phone number. But it's much easier to just pull the girl yourself, like while you're there to handle the objections yourself. Your strategy leaves it up to the girl to handle them, but I'm way better at it than her. Why? Because I've practiced it literally thousands of times with the explicit goal of pulling in mind. I can tell the friends, "We're just doing X, real quick" or "D/w, we'll be back in 2 minutes." …
/r/seduction22/07/21 08:30 AM
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I love drunk chicks. Makes them so much easier. If I saw an 8 who just came in sober, and a 7 who was drunk, stumbling around, I'd approach the 7. At least in NV, there's no law against fucking drunk chicks as long as she is conscious and physically able to say no. Why are you so worried about getting charged? It could happen to anyone; it doesn't really matter how cucked you are; you just have to piss off the wrong girl once and have a feminazi DA. But it's a super low probability regardless. O…
/r/seduction22/07/21 08:23 AM
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I def. don't care whether the woman "wants to be with me." That's pretty much completely irrelevant. It's just getting her to AGREE to be with me. Afterwards, when she likes it, she will backwards rationalize how "she asked for it" and how it happened to tell some bullshit story to her friends. I agree with you that if you're bad in bed or it's one of your first pulls, you should probably err on the side of caution. I know exactly what I can get away with cuz I do it every weekend. I'm def. not …
/r/seduction22/07/21 08:13 AM
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The point of it is that no one is really going to say no to that, and if she somehow does, it's not like you "got rejected" and are now awkward at the gym. She is just anti-social. Also, pretty much everything about everyone is fake, so I see no good reason not to be a liar, and many advantages. That's just one of the easiest ways to get a social close. Feel free to come up with one that doesn't involve lying, if your pesky "feelings" are hindering your success with my line. lol.
/r/seduction22/07/21 07:49 AM
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I'm 38 and slightly overweight. Right now, a 25yo blonde that I just got high with and fucked is asleep in my bed. In the bar at 1130 were 3 other good looking, young gym bros who tried to talk to her. Why do you think she's in my bed passed tf out. Do you think she liked my looks better? No. I was the ugliest of the 4 dudes talking to her by far, but I had the biggest balls. I'm the one that told her to "walk over here" and take a shot with me. I'm the one who said "lets go outside to smoke" (a…
/r/seduction22/07/21 07:42 AM
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No. For men it's a matter of preference, for women, a matter of choice. The reason for this is evolutionary. A man can impregnate near infinite women, and every new bitch he knocks up increases his odds of spreading his genes. So for a man, looks are a matter of ranking - he puts them in preferred order, but will fuck nearly any. Not so for the woman. Once she gets pregnant, she needs to rely on the man for 4 years. So she must choose only the BEST man to fuck. That's why dating apps favor bitch…
/r/seduction22/07/21 07:37 AM
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A "sneaky link" is a slang term in America for a hookup no one knows about.. So if the girl has a boyfriend, and she's leaving within the next 30s, the only chance of gettin with her is to suggest that you become sneaky links :P
/r/seduction22/07/21 07:27 AM
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Yeah true. That was just the situation that popped into my head. It's still extremely weird. Like even as a dude reading it, I feel weird haha.. like some girl is gonna walk away from her friends to go meet some dude who is childishly trying to wait for her to sneak off. Like maybe if you're both in high school or some shit.
/r/seduction21/07/21 08:40 PM
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I don't have any side effects. I'm not an expert. Just a dude who likes to party haha. It's been linked to liver damage, but so is alcohol, which I drink much less of since I've been taking it so. :P
/r/seduction21/07/21 07:56 PM
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what happens after you exhaust the venue I live in Vegas, so I rarely exhaust the venue on a Friday night, but if I've talked to every hot girl, I'll decide if I should approach any rejections again or go to a new venue or go home (depending on the time). what happens if a girl you number closed sees you talking to or number closing ANOTHER girl ? Bigger venues are better. Especially if they have an outdoor area or multiple floors, multiple bars. After you closed one girl, you can go to a new ar…
/r/seduction21/07/21 07:43 PM
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It acts on the same brain receptors as alcohol. Gives you the anti-anxiety effect and reduced inhibition, but without the loss of motor function/DUI. I bought mine on Amazon. It's called kava kava. Idk if that's the best, it's just the one I bought. $15 for 60 pills. I take 3 before going out.
/r/seduction21/07/21 07:35 PM
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Personally, I'm very goal oriented. When I go out on Friday night, the only reason I'm there is to fuck girls. I take kava before I go, order 1 drink and walk through the club to evaluate all the whores. Then I approach 1 warmup girl, number close her, and then I approach the hottest girl there and work my way down until I pull someone or exhaust the venue. It's just like going to work or w/e. You have a task, go accomplish it. The loud music, irritating chodes, and fat bitches are just annoyanc…
/r/seduction21/07/21 07:01 PM
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tl;dr: Not sure if this is a troll or what, but literally everything in this comment is wrong, and dudes would do a lot better by doing the exact opposite. 🤣 In detail: Don’t ask someone out at the gym. Approach anytime you see a hot girl, including at the gym (although, I wouldn't do more than 1, abs max 2 approaches per session anywhere you're a known regular - including the gym). 1) be attractive. If someone is literally basing a yes or no off of 2 seconds of knowing you, you better look reas…
/r/seduction21/07/21 06:49 PM
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That's an incredible story. haha congrats on the sick lay. But dude, you've gotta understand that's like a 1/1000 event with a girl who really responds to the protector trigger and is very aggressive. Most girls are simply not gonna do that, no matter how down they are. Most of them will literally go home upset that you didn't make a move. The vast majority of my same night lays involve multiple, repeated objections: "I can't leave my friends." Don't worry, we'll just go do a couple shots and co…
/r/seduction21/07/21 06:07 PM
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Fair enough; I'm rapey. I've got 200 bodies, and tonight I'm gonna get high with and probly fuck 2 hot sisters that I've been with a few times already. But some judgemental feminists on the internet think I'm a creep. I'll take that trade. 🤣 Will go check out your longer reply. Didn't see it before, sorry.
/r/seduction21/07/21 05:56 PM
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Yes absolutely. Pickup is essentially a type of sales - which is all about manipulating buyer perception and gaining compliance. A lot of us are changing ourselves just to look funnier and more interesting just so we can impress that girl we like. Does it matter what your motivation for positive change is? Being funnier and more interesting seem like objectively positive qualities. I've never heard anyone complain, "Man, since I started getting hitting up girls and getting laid all the time, I'v…
/r/seduction21/07/21 05:18 PM
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It is true. I find myself behaving more and more psychopathic the better I get at game. The way I view it is there are 2 classes of people. People within my circle of protection and those outside of it. For those inside of it, I care deeply about their opinions and well-being, but the rest of the world is there for me to exploit (within the limits of the law). How you meet the women you're currently engaging ? 18yo story is above. 27yo is an ultrasound tech, my grandmother, who I take care of, w…
/r/seduction21/07/21 04:55 PM
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It's really silly to blanket base what you want for a long term relationship on aGe. The reality is individual women of all ages are very different. Obviously there's a lot of truth to it; it's a stereotype. It's like saying, "For my basketball team, I want a black player." It might be generally true, doesn't mean you're not going to find an amazing Asian player. Likewise, you can find an amazing girl in her early 20s. The 23yo I'm dating is the full package. Much more of a well rounded person t…
/r/seduction21/07/21 04:45 PM
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Is it acceptable to hit on a 21 year old when you're 30 ? Your frame is bad. Why do you care if it's acceptable? Or how it's going to be "viewed by others?" Do you want it? Then, it's acceptable to you, which is all that matters. I'm 38; my rotation right now is an 18yo, 20yo, 23yo, and 27yo. The 18yo was a cashier waiting on me. I number closed in the middle of a small and crowded pizza shop, while all her coworkers were staring at us flirting. I realized she was 17 when her literal mom came ov…
/r/seduction21/07/21 04:27 PM
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LOL...... have you ever actually pulled someone with that? That is so low value. Like I care enough to actually leave the club and go wait for her, hoping she walks out to my car and handles all the objections of her friends herself. If her friends are cockblocking so hard that I can't even isolate her after a few tries of, "We're just gonna go do 1 shot, we'll be back in 2 minutes. Can I bring back a drink for you?" etc. I'm just going to get her number and move on to the next set.
/r/seduction21/07/21 04:13 PM
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Yeah with a 2-set, if you don't have a wing then you should either quickly move to number close your target and move on, or you can try to pawn the friend off onto a random guy, pretending he's your friend. If you pick a cool looking, attractive dude who is too beta to speak up right away, you can act like you know him and use him as a wing long enough to pull ur target. If it's a group of 3+, isolate your target within the first 2 minutes. "Lets go do a shot," "Lets go to the smoking section," …
/r/seduction21/07/21 04:05 PM
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How many times have you been in the situation where you were talking to a girl alone and then her friend runs up and pulls her away? Never, because I will physically get in her way or even put my hands on the friend and ask who she is and how they know each other. As far as I can tell, this is some random person trying to enter my girl's personal space, and I'm going to move to defend her. More often than you would expect, it is some random girl too haha - probly 20% in my experience. But you do…
/r/seduction21/07/21 04:01 PM
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Contrary to what some people think, I don't believe that men peak at 35-40. I believe 20-30 is when men peak in terms of physical attractiveness and some can drag it out onto their early thirties. Physical attractiveness, sure. Attractiveness to women, completely different thing. It's not a matter of opinion. Barring some tragedy that dramatically alters your life trajectory or a severe medical condition, your value will be higher in your late 30s than in your 20s. So it's now or never. It's act…
/r/seduction21/07/21 03:45 PM
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Did I leave r/seduction and land in r/feminism by mistake? Since when is being a man and making the first move/leading the sexual escalation "rapey?" Why is less rapey to make the woman lead? By that logic, wouldn't she just be the rapey one, if she's doing the man's job for you?
/r/seduction21/07/21 03:13 PM
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I get it. There's a lot of plastics in the environment. Everyone is hooked on soy. Testosterone is at an all time low. Feminazis are running wild. You can hardly remember what being a man feels like, and you are a scared little boy. In the words of Mystery, "Man the fuck up, son. That is all." Women like you or they don't. This is totally false. You can hit the biological attraction triggers with your words and actions and make women like you. This is perhaps the most well understood and most ov…
/r/seduction21/07/21 02:52 PM
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That isn't at all what I said. What I said is, expecting women to tell you to make a move is not only very frustrating to them, but it's also psychologically damaging to your own sense of masculinity. Forever protecting yourself from perhaps the most primal component of being a man - having a pair of balls and escalating on a woman. That has nothing to do with whether or not you're out and the club chasing people.
/r/seduction21/07/21 01:50 PM
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This doesn't make you noble or any kind of a good guy. Just a pussy who is repulsive to women.
/r/seduction20/07/21 11:35 PM
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This is such a backwards mentality. Your entire frame is about what the woman wants and what the woman and your mutual friends might think of you. What do you want and what do you think of her? If you want to bang her out, then its on you to move it in that direction and make it easy for her to hook up with you without feeling slutty. That doesn't mean abruptly start groping her, or mAkE a MoVe in some sort of dramatic way. A simple, "Mmm.. you smell so fucking good" whispered into her ear while…
/r/seduction20/07/21 11:33 PM
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Nah, it's very rude/impolite to ask a woman her age. There's all kinds of ways she could rightly get offended. Additionally, I'm 38, and I don't wanna draw attention to the fact that I'm double her age by making her realize I'm not even sure if she's of age. What I usually do in day game when I'm ready to pull is I say, "I'm tired of standing here in [wherever we are]. Let's go get a slushy. I know a chill spot." Take her hand and start walking her to my car. Now I've had it happen that when we …
/r/seduction20/07/21 03:24 PM
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haha yeah. Downside is, in the clubs (which are STILL closed for the panicdemic), and on the strip, most of the girls you meet are only there for a short time. There's some decent locals spots though, and Tinder is great for locals.
/r/seduction20/07/21 05:00 AM
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Right I get it, not everyone knows how to do it yet, but your advice is straight up wrong. It's much harder to pull from a 2 set than an 8 set. I've done it in the club a handful of times by literally throwing the friend onto a random guy, pretending he was my friend, and using him as a wing long enough for me to pull. You don't have to be super advanced to learn to isolate. You want to let her introduce you to her friends, and position yourself between her and her friends, so she's kind of lock…
/r/seduction20/07/21 03:56 AM
2

Well then what is it that you think the money actually does? And I'm talking about in the initial bar/beach pickup to pull or to phone number and then date at your house. If you're saying it's not easy to pretend, then the implication here is that it's something internal that the money is doing for you, and I have certainly noticed this in my friends. I have a friend who is a rich, successful doctor and real estate investor. 10 years ago he was pretty beta. Now he's alpha as fuck. He's been marr…
/r/seduction20/07/21 03:48 AM
0

Fundamentally you're wrong about Snapchat. Not sure why you're arguing. You're clearly a beginner. You don't want to make it easy for her to communicate with you in a low-pressure way. The goal is to bang her out, not flirt endlessly on text and get dirty pictures. Ultimately, if you're approaching every hot girl you see and not waiting for "approach invitations" or whatever other bullshit, about 10% of your numbers should result in lays. Your situation is warm approach with girls who've already…
/r/seduction20/07/21 02:36 AM
5

Dude there's nothing stopping you from getting one nice outfit, a fake Rolex, and renting a Ferrari for the night. Do it. Go to the club, and then tell us how you can magically pull now, cuz I promise you're going to be just as shitty as before. Money is very useful but it's not that hard to pretend that you're rich for long enough to fuck the girl.
/r/seduction20/07/21 02:10 AM
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She doesn't have to be alone. I have no idea why dudes are so afraid to approach groups or seem incapable of isolating their target from the group. Also you don't need to worry about underage girls. You're not going to fuck anybody on the beach. You'll figure out she's underage as soon as you try to get her a drink.
/r/seduction20/07/21 02:04 AM
5

I'd much rather approach a group of eight girls than two. I always isolate very quickly and the large group is not even going to notice that she's gone.
/r/seduction20/07/21 02:01 AM
1

Girls cancel dates all the time. They also say random stupid shit on social media - in this case probably because she was feeling some anxiety at waiting over 5m for a reply. Obviously some girl you matched on Tinder and haven't met yet doesn't give a shit about you. Why should she? That doesn't mean she isn't gonna fuck and eventually care about you. In OP's position, I would message text her the next morning with a photo of me doing whatever interesting thing I'm doing that day and "Hey. Sorry…
/r/seduction19/07/21 11:37 PM
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I've never understood this mentality. How does it help you plow out hot girls to block one. Like you think he's too good for her because she cancelled a date and lied about it social media? I mean that describes pretty much everyone on the planet. Shouldn't get salty just cuz you happen to be the victim.
/r/seduction19/07/21 05:11 PM
2

Agreed 100%. I guess what I was trying to say is that your goal of Tinder messages should be to get her number, then get her on the phone. Not chat for days/week or w/e on Tinder.
/r/seduction19/07/21 04:40 PM
1

Yes. By definition, if another dude pulls that girl, I can't pull her. It is, in fact, a competition. That doesn't mean you set out to attack other dudes like some insecure chode, but if some AFC is creeping out a girl, and you can use that to your advantage to demonstrate live that you're the Protector of Loved Ones, it's an A+ move.
/r/seduction19/07/21 11:04 AM
1

What do you mean? When I match with a girl on Tinder, within the first few messages we're on the phone, and by the end of the call, she's either coming straight to my house, or there's a day/time set for her to come to my house, (or I decided she was a time waster, ended the call, and unmatched her; or she got offended at something I said and ended the interaction). You shouldn't be on there looking for a chat buddy. Like I don't need more people in my phone to banter text messages with on an ap…
/r/seduction19/07/21 09:55 AM
10

No one thinks it's "consent for sex." This is a ridiculous strawman intentionally designed to try to make men look bad. However, a guy who takes a woman as flirting with him as a green light to escalate and try to move the interaction forward to the next step is completely normal and reasonable.
/r/seduction19/07/21 09:42 AM
1

Because women do not get instantly attracted like men do. We look at a woman, decide she's a 7 or 8 or w/e, and it's really not going to change that much. Once you swiped right, you've already decided you want to bang her. The woman is genuinely deciding based on the conversation you have with her. If you convey high value, hit the attraction triggers with your story telling, and lead her along the interaction with small steps of compliance that make it easy for her to feel comfortable with what…
/r/seduction19/07/21 09:34 AM
0

Great job! Next step - verbalize everything you just told us in the interaction! Some girl gives you a wierd look, laugh at her out loud and say to her friend, "What's her problem. She's probably awful to be around. hahahaha" Watch how fast she starts qualifying herself. It's priceless.
/r/seduction19/07/21 09:03 AM
1

Right, so I'm not sure if you're aware of the purpose of this discussion - how to get girls into bed. Being a "cunt" as you put it, or at least acting like one in the beginning till you've banged the girl a couple times is a highly effective strategy which is not illegal (unlike murdering a family) and has basically no negative consequences. If you choose not to do it for some arbitrary reason like "feminists on the internet won't like me," you're making an active choice not to bang as many hot …
/r/seduction19/07/21 07:51 AM
1

So when you take a Machiavellian approach like I do (and presumably like the OP), you have to consider all the potential consequences of your actions. Murdering your entire family is hard to get away with, and most likely will not actually result in massive wealth, but rather life in prison. On the other hand, approaching a girl 3x or more is unlikely to result in any negative consequences whatsoever. I personally give up on a set when the girl says something to the effect of, "Fuck off." "Don't…
/r/seduction18/07/21 07:48 AM
2

That's a very logical, rational, and accurate, modern response. And it has absolutely zero to do with how our brains are hard-wired from biology. When you've had a drink or seven, and a charismatic dude is hitting you up in the club, none of that logical bullshit you just spewed has any effect on how you're going to react to him. My body count is 200 (exactly, as of last Wednesday... sad story why it isn't higher yet lol), and I've only paid for one (my first ever 3some - 18 years ago, I paid a …
/r/seduction18/07/21 07:38 AM
2

If you're known for playing pong, you can take it in that direction, but do it in a more challenging manner, and after you've built some value. "Are you even good at pong, or are you just standing her looking pretty?" "Ask around, I'm one of the top dudes.. are you ready to get your ass beat?" etc
/r/seduction18/07/21 07:28 AM
2

Yeah feel free to use more PC zoomer wording. I take it you're young and in school. I'm 38, and don't mind being especially polarizing when it comes to issues of ethnicity because I want to screen out PC/sensitive/feminist women. If she gets offended, I'm happy to move on.
/r/seduction18/07/21 07:19 AM
1

Obviously, if the girl gives you something to work with, you can let her talk, and feed off what she says. I just kept it going as if she offers basically nothing, which sometimes happens - especially with Asian girls (which are my type) - as they tend to be particularly shy.
/r/seduction18/07/21 07:18 AM
4

Me: Hey, I like your outfit Her: Thank you Me: Want to play some cup pong? Why would she want to play cup pong with you, dude? What makes you better than the other 90 dudes who want to play with her? In her view, nothing, cuz you said nothing. You need to DHV, build up the vibe, sexualize the conversation, and build compliance momentum in small steps. Instead of immediately asking her to play, you might have tried something along the lines of, You: "So what flavor Asian are you, anyways?" Her: "…
/r/seduction17/07/21 06:26 PM
8

What kind of logic is this? Don't wait for women to choose you dude... it's great when it happens, but every girl you find attractive should be approached and flirted with. And actually, if I'm bored and have some time to kill, I'll even flirt with women I wouldn't sleep with at the store, just for the sake of social engagement and building social momentum throughout the day (if I'm planning to go out later - like if I'm at the grocery on sat. afternoon).
/r/seduction17/07/21 05:59 PM
6

People are sex objects. That's the whole point of our existence - all life's existence - survival and replication.
/r/seduction17/07/21 05:55 PM
0

Yes. Who cares if a woman feels safe? Definitely not me. Women are responsible for their own feelings. If she's MY woman, then I'm concerned with making her feel good/safe. Some random club girl? My responsibility ends at not doing anything to harm her. She can feel however she needs to feel in the process of being convinced to sleep with me.
/r/seduction17/07/21 05:50 PM
1

As a man who is into banging hot girls, I honestly couldn't care less why a woman says yes. Once I get the first yes out of her, I can keep building compliance momentum, giving her more and more small things that are very easy to say yes to (eg. "it's loud right here, step this way", and move her literally 1 or 2 steps, just for the sake of building compliance), and we're very likely going home together if the logistics are good. I approached this Mexican chick 11 times over the course of like 3…
/r/seduction17/07/21 05:45 PM
3

The truth of the situation doesn't matter at all... just whether or not what you can convey to the girl is useful for moving the interaction forward - which this was.
/r/seduction17/07/21 05:32 PM
4

Terrible advice tbh. No means "not right now." Almost every girl who would eventually sleep with you is going to say no or make some strong objections at some point. The whole key to this game is how well you can overcome her objections. If you just walk away at the first sign of resistance, you're probly reducing your lay count by 90% for no reason.
/r/seduction17/07/21 05:26 PM
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