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Question For Womenkrmaml/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 08:28 AM
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I've lived in a college town for many years. Then lived in major downtown areas like Bay Area, LA. I rarely see average looking, medium height young men with women (any kind of women), let alone unattractive guys. Every f'nwhere you look its tall conventionally handsome, super fit guys straight out of cookie cutters with girls that look like anything on their arm. Girls who can be short, fat, out of shape, facially unappealing that they need warpaint to appear presentable. Really don't understan…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 09:13 AM
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I'm talking about all young women. Doesn't matter where they meet men Have you seen the crushes, lovers, hookups, flings, FWB's, situationship guys of young women?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 09:00 AM
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The bar for looks and height is not low. Have you seen the guys young women are hooking up, having flings and situation-ships with? Have you seen the guys women swipe right on? Have you seen the guys women respond to in clubs?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 08:40 AM
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How the fuck is the bar low as women keep spouting on the internet?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 08:30 AM
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How the fuck is it low then?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 08:28 AM
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Yeah man, told that 1 year ago: There are 2 bars - Bar for character & effort AND a bar for looks & physical attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 08:28 AM
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So you're saying the premise that women are walking away from long term relationships with men is false?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 11:19 PM
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Asking you again Do you disagree that men need to be conventionally good-looking to do hookups, but women don't?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 06:58 AM
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There are all sorts of men on red pill forums. My question is why are blue pill forums so fucking scared shitless of any one expressing a dissenting view? I was instantly banned from bluepill and exredpill forums only for challenging views in a calm and logical manner.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 06:57 AM
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You won't be banned from any red pill or bp forum. They will try to engage with you logically. You will be immediately banned or completely ignored on every blue pill forum. What is the strawman argument?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 02:57 AM
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I'm not asking about your husband, but the guys who you deemed hot enough to casually fuck and be in purely sexual flings with. Husbands are obviously inferior.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 11:23 AM
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So you need 8/10 face and hot body
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 11:22 AM
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Why is the blue pilled sub so scared of any view that deviates even slightly?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 11:17 AM
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What complex reasons? There are men who have a new girl every weekend and others who can't find a single option in years because they're physically unattractive. What is the complexity here? Why are you trying so desperately to make things vague when answers are already there?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 11:13 AM
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So explain why some men have 100s of women attracted to them, while others have 0 if there's so much variation in women's taste?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 11:11 AM
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You hate it that men notice
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 11:10 AM
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So you're shaming her for wanting hot guys?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 10:57 AM
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Why do you want men to be good when its inconsequential to being attractive to women? You asked "Are Women Really Overlooking Good Men—Or Are They Just Not There", and you already have the answer: Women ARE overlooking good men who aren't hot causing men to become apathetic. We were all good at one point.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 10:56 AM
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What kind of men did you casually hooked up with, were FWB with, had short term hot sexual flings with, was in situationships with? What did they look like?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 10:45 AM
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How the fuck do you know about personality from 3 photos on a dating app?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 10:44 AM
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Sexual attraction leads to relationships. The fact men have a larger pool of fuckable women also means their pool of relationship worthy women is larger. Why do you women only want to fuck top 5% of hottest men?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 10:39 AM
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Why wouldn't there be an equal number of men and women?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 10:37 AM
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You only want to have sex with top 10-15% hottest men. Tell us about the guys you did hookups and FWB with. What do they need to look like?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 10:35 AM
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Yes, and men collectively consider 85% of women to be physically attractive to varying extents. Women have been screaming on top of their lungs how 90% of men are ugly
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 10:34 AM
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You are not a good person. You are not empathetic and emotionally intelligent
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 10:33 AM
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Every young woman has an active dating/sex life. Just look in your circle
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 07:31 AM
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Do you realize how privileged you are as an autistic woman compared to autistic men?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 07:44 AM
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But in social circles you are only welcomed as a man if you're tall and very good looking. Also women in Scandinivia are the most elitist and have the highest standards for looks and height in the world
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 06:00 AM
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Why do you have relationships if they don't increase your happiness and decreases some negative feeling?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 05:19 AM
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Isn't Scandinavia an extremely elitist society for men, where men need to look like 6'3 male models to be accepted socially, while the ugliest of women are welcomed?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 05:12 AM
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So men can't be happy being single, because autistic men cannot have hookups like you do
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 05:10 AM
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Its interconnected and depends a lot more on how the other gender perceives and engages with you
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 05:02 AM
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Then why are women, far from staying away, engaging in them way more than men?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 05:00 AM
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How is it affecting women when young women literally have way more active dating and sex lives than young men?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 04:58 AM
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Just in your circle, how many young women remain celibate when they're not in a big relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 07:16 AM
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Nowadays its all looks and height. A 6'2 handsome but broke guy will have 20 times more relationship options than a 5'8 average looking doctor
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 07:14 AM
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Or to be socially valued, the benchmarks are just higher for men? You need to be super good looking, tall, fit, charming, successful to be as valued and easily accepted into new social circles as an average looking woman with a wallflower personality and mundane life? I have seen average looking unremarkable women invited and welcomed into new social circles like super good looking super tall charming men And this is besides the sexual advantage which is common knowledge by now.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 07:11 AM
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Women are willing too. They're just looks-elitist. Good-looking men are having a field day in todays culture
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 06:47 AM
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So you're saying single women dont have more active sex lives than single men?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 06:41 AM
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They're preaching its easy to be happily single. Being single means celibacy for most men because men need to be very conventionally good-looking to get casual sex, hookups, flings, and FWB.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 06:17 AM
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You said sex is not a part of learning to be content with being single.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 06:13 AM
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Is this due to the pahtridge or some other bullshit boogeyman?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 06:09 AM
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I will try to meet many of the "relationship needs" as a single/unpartnered man. That includes sex, intimacy, romance, validation, attention, companionship via short term casual flings, hookups and situationships Isn't that what single women are doing? Outsourcing a lot of relationship stuff to casual, fluid, short term connections?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 06:07 AM
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If my (single man) lack of contentment stems from a complete absence of sexual & romantic connections, a person (single woman) who does experience/enjoy them telling me they are irrelevant to happiness would seem extremely dishonest and patronizing.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 06:00 AM
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Why are single women having sex if it doesn't increase their happiness or reduce some negative feeling?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 05:56 AM
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To know if they're practicing what they preach
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 05:55 AM
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Because the eggs are extremely expensive for him, but you get them for free
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 05:50 AM
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Why are way more single women than single men sexually active then?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 05:48 AM
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So your "solution" is dismissive and callous. You either need to be honest with people you interact with and tell them bluntly "If social validation isn't likely to happen for you, maybe skip it and seek something else like acceptance" or you need to give people practicable advice on gaining social validation. Equivocating between the two in your response is dishonest and mean spirited. Very beautifully put. I was just having an argument along similar lines with someone on instagram
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 05:39 AM
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What exactly do you disagree with?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 05:38 AM
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Why are you trying downplay the fact that men need to be very conventionally good-looking to get casually laid, while women don't?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 05:37 AM
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Its not that. It seems that women aren't practicing what they're preaching. The vast majority of single women in their 20s and 30s are not celibate. They casually date men, have hookups, short term on/off flings, FWB, and situation-ships with varying frequency. Clearly its an important aspect of their life. You're framing this as men's obsession with getting laid when they're just trying to be like women. Most single women aren't fucking a new guy every day, but they surely have a guy or two the…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 05:36 AM
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Were you celibate when you were single? Did you go on casual dates, have short term on/off flings, hookups, FWB or situationships during your "single" days?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 05:32 AM
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Do you remain celibate when not in a long term relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 05:30 AM
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Thankyou. Only women like you can preach because you practice it
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 05:30 AM
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You mean single women have dating/ sex lives?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 05:29 AM
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Do you remain celibate when not in a serious relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 05:28 AM
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Thanks. May I ask you if you're celibate when you're single? Do you have any casual short term flings, hookups, situationships with men when you're single?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 05:27 AM
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Which is ironic thing to say given women are more sexually active on average
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 05:26 AM
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This advice would seem more truthful if women were practicing what they're preaching. I honestly don't see single young women in their 20s and 30s giving up on sex, dating and relationships. They're literally hopping from one situation-ship/fling/FWB/hookup to another.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 05:25 AM
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Why aren't women in their 20s and 30s going celibate then? They're literally the most sexually active group of people. Young women literally hop from situationship/fling to another. Don't you think you're preaching what women don't practice themselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 05:23 AM
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Are you celibate and have boycotted men romantically and sexually?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 05:20 AM
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What do the guys you casually fuck look like?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 04:42 PM
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Are you celibate and without any positively sexually and romantically validating interactions with men?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 04:41 PM
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That is not the experience of 100s of millions of average and below average looking men who go through life without ever experiencing women's lust. Marriage is not lust. Lust is when a woman is willing to hookup with you, wants to be a FWB, wants to have a casual hot sexual fling with you, wants to be a booty call, flirts with you, makes eyes at you. Why do only good looking / hot men experience this?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 02:07 PM
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That is not the experience of 100s of millions of average and below average looking men who go through life without ever experiencing women's lust. Marriage is not lust. Lust is when a woman is willing to hookup with you, wants to be a FWB, wants to have a casual hot sexual fling with you, wants to be a booty call, flirts with you, makes eyes at you. Why do only good looking / hot men experience this?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 02:04 PM
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I'm not talking about dating apps. I'm talking about hookup culture. Men need to be conventionally good-looking to do hookups, women don't. Do you agree?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 02:01 PM
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The dating apps very accurately reflects what happens on college campuses, in the club/bar scene, and within social circles that have a casual hookup culture: Men need to be conventionally good-looking, tall, super fit. Women can be below average, fat, short and still get dating and hookup options left and right. Why are you unwilling to address that men need to be conventionally good-looking to participate in the hookup culture, while women don't?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 12:14 PM
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Women consider 80% of men to be ugly / unattractive. Men find the same %age to be appealing to some degree I know you are too dishonest to address this
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 11:03 AM
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Love and lust is something women only feel for super good looking, tall, hot men. I don't think anyone's denying that. We're just talking from a common man's perspective and I'm sure you'll agree average and below average looking men don't experience true love and lust from women. Men are fully capable of feeling love and lust for mediocre looking women
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 11:01 AM
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What if dating apps simply reflect women's true nature? Women are financially better off more than ever, slut shaming is non existent, technology helps women connect with hottest men in their cities. They're simply showing middle finger to monogamy and marriage, and pursuing their baseline desires to have physical relationships with hot men. A left wing, liberal, feminist society would encourage and facilitate women's looks elitism even more. Just look at Europe where women's looks have literall…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 12:09 PM
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80% of men will be single if the trend continues. You women are happily chanting on social media that youre happier single (just doing hookups with hot men) and most men are ugly, chopped, losers that evolution is discarding.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 11:12 AM
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Have a young 6'4 NFL quarterback roam around in a short underwear in a room full of women and they will be dripping wet dying to get f***d by him right there
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 11:10 AM
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Most women are getting fucked by hot guys and are defending their choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 11:09 AM
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I'm below average in looks. I gender swapped by pictures and put on a dating app. I got 1000s of likes in a few days.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 11:09 AM
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Like women rating 80% of men ugly?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 11:07 AM
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Try being a bald man on a dating app, speed dating even, club scene
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 11:06 AM
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If they are mid why do each of htem have 1000s of women telling them they're hot, gorgeous, pretty 10/10 in the comments?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 11:06 AM
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But the women aren't rated mediocre. These 4 women had 1000s of comments from other women telling them they're gorgeous, hot, pretty, 10/10
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 10:24 AM
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Why aren't you thankful of men's low standards? Why don't you consider yourself privileged? Men's low standards allow you to f*** hot men way above your league so you can consider yourself superior to 99% of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 10:20 AM
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Just look at these 4 pairs of images and tell me if the men are looksmatched or not https://imgur.com/a/do-we-assess-mens-looks-more-harshly-than-womens-L1MYRah
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 10:19 AM
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They absolutely get horny seeing super good looking super tall men's body parts
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 10:18 AM
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Just look at the 4 pair of images I shared and tell me if they are looks-matched or not https://imgur.com/a/do-we-assess-mens-looks-more-harshly-than-womens-L1MYRah
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 10:17 AM
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So you're saying men have an extremely narrow set of standards / phenotypes they need to conform to to be considered attractive? Basically the benchmarks for male beauty are insanely high you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 09:59 AM
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So why are the apps screwing over only one gender? Ugly, obese, midget, broke grannies are getting 1000s of dating offers from young good looking men. Why can't they screw over women instead?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 09:45 AM
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So why are men struggling to get dates because of looks and height requirements?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 09:42 AM
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So you're saying ugly women are benefitting from men's low standards and going on multiple dates per week/month with new men?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 09:39 AM
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There are ugly, fat, old, broke, below average looking women dating 20 men a month. Whats your point? Men need to be conventionally good looking to have many dating options. Women dont
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 09:39 AM
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How good-looking and tall was your ex that you couldn't find a replacement that was equally good looking, handsome, tall, and hot ?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 09:35 AM
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Lol, this is absolutely true
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 09:34 AM
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Who tf is SCARED to talk to women? Men are invisible because theyre not GOOD LOOKING & TALL enough for the dating world. Dating requires good looks and above average height. Women only respond to men who are good looking and tall enough. Who tf is scared? Why tf are you lying that men don't face pressure to be good looking and tall in the dating world?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 10:58 PM
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You're so scared
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 10:17 PM
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it proves their point that the male loneliness and incel epidemic is a "looks" issue. Not a men's lack of character and emotional maturity issue as women and feminists are claiming. It proves their point that in the dating world a larger number of women are dating a smaller number of men Why do these facts scare the sh** out of you?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 10:13 PM
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Women are unwilling to accept the male loneliness and incel epidemic is a "looks" issue, not a character, emotional maturity issue
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 10:10 PM
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The men you've fucked have many guy friends who don't fuck nor go on any dates because they're not good looking and tall enough. How many girl friends do you have who are celibate and never go on dates?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 10:08 PM
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I am on several "Are we dating the same guy" groups and 90% of it is gossip and trashing men for stupid things like not messaging back, ghosting, taking her on a cheap date, offering to hookup etc. Literally nothing to do with safety
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 09:51 PM
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How/why is there a male loneliness epidemic when so many women are dating disloyal cheating toxic men?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 09:49 PM
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Then why is there a male loneliness epidemic if poor behavior is being rewarded by women?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 09:46 PM
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Are the majority of restaurants complaining about having no customers? If yes then we can conclude everyone is going to the few small number of restaurants. Majority of young men below 30 are saying they have no dating options.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 12:28 PM
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Thats very rare. 90% of photos posted on such groups are of good looking tall fit men
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 12:23 PM
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So who are the men you're hooking up with?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 12:21 PM
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Just trying to casually enrage men. Women get a lot of schadenfreude from this. One moment its character and emotional maturity, the very next its good looks, height, body.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 12:21 PM
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What are men supposed to do when every woman today wants a good looking tall boyfriend and when talk about it they are told its character? When you continue to gaslight a group of people how can they not become hateful?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 12:19 PM
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So why aren't they going celibate? Who are they having sex with?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 12:18 PM
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What can men do when most women want conventionally good looking tall lovers and boyfriends only? You literally have a mf'n app called Tea where millions of women are bummed they're sharing good looking tall men
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 12:17 PM
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Women are doing hookups, casual short term flings, situationships, and FWB with good-looking men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 12:16 PM
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What kind of guys got hookups in college? IT dudes or sports dudes?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 12:14 PM
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It means women are sharing a much smaller number of men in the dating world. Women are more shallow, looks elitist than men and find a way smaller number of men attractive than the other way round. All the claims of incels and manosphere about hypergamy are supported
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 12:11 PM
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"Did you consider women are often looked down upon, treated poorly or even outright rejected by men when they try to go into the trades, construction or more physically intensive jobs?" Any woman in trades has unlimited dating opportunities with men within the same trade just due to the sheer gender imbalance. I knew a mechanic lady in her 40s who had dated young hot 20 something mechanic dudes all her life and she was below average looking. You are lying
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 11:55 PM
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Bullshit. A 6 will be friendzoned by 6s and 5s regularly.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 04:27 AM
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So when a woman finally starts pursuing sex for the same of enjoyment, she only wants it with hot young men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 03:24 AM
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You don't see the irony that its the male celebrity who exactly considers his groupie a cum sock, because of the insane inequality in their status, lifestyle and value in society. I'm describing what the celebrity would think of you after fucking you, because its not an equal engagement.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 09:14 AM
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If you ever fucked a celebrity, you'd be running your mouth to all your girlfriends nonstop, so the chances of it emerging and affecting your reputation would still be there. You might get branded as a groupie / celebrity cum sock in your circle. Anyways, if discreet casual sex is your aim, you can still do that with a normal guy who's far removed from your social circle. Millions of women do that. You don't need to fuck a celebrity to ensure privacy. You're just exaggerating.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 08:57 AM
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You won't get off from sex with a celebrity because he'll be insanely selfish with a groupie / ordinary woman. He won't care if you orgasm, won't eat you out, will use you however he pleases even if its uncomfortable for you So are you having sex for your pleasure or just for the validation of being with a celebrity?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 08:30 AM
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Then wtf do you achieve from fucking a celebrity who treats you like a cum bucket flesh light? Why don't you have a casual sex relationship with a man on equal terms? A man who comes over when its convenient for you. A man who puts in the effort to please you. You are lying. You are fucking the celebrity for a different reason. Not for sex
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 08:18 AM
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You are being dishonest. You casually fuck the celebrity because of your own mental inner instinctive need to fuck a high status powerful male. It satiates a deeper primal desire inside you. You fuck the celebrity because its immensely exciting to you and a boost to your ego. It raises your status among women It has nothing to do with preserving the reputation. If anything, the average man will be more put off on finding you were a cum bucket for a celebrity/rapper/athlete than if you had casual…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 08:09 AM
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If men find out you are a groupie / concubine to a celebrity it will make you an even worse marriage prospect to an average man than if you casually fucked an average dude. How does that fulfill your objective?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 08:04 AM
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There are no consequences for women's reputation in todays world. Women can fuck around to the fullest and still live normal lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 08:02 AM
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What effort do the guys you have casual sex with make?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 11:47 AM
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Can you show an example from google of the minimum facial attractiveness you need to casually fuck?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 11:21 AM
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Women become extremely offended at being called average or even "not 10/10" by men. I'm sure you've seen enough examples of that
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 11:10 AM
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What are your looks, height, body requirements when seeking hookups?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 11:09 AM
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I'm a 3 in looks. Women are 2s and 3s absolutely don't want casual sex, hookups, and FWB with men who are 3s. They exclusively do it with men who are 6s 7s and 8s You are lying. Women are shallow and elitist about looks when it comes to casual sex. Everyone knows this
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 01:24 AM
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Boring average looking women do just fine getting FWB's and sexual flings. They don't need to be jesters and make men laugh.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 09:42 PM
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Why are casual hookups and sexual flings only available to hot guys, but they're available to ALL women? Why do majority of men only get one option - serious LTRs ?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 09:38 PM
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Dont be stupid Men, like women, discuss their dating and sex lives. I was knows 1000s of men since I was a kid. I'm 35 now. I came across 100s of good looking men in my life that I became acquainted with. I discussed sex and dating lives with them. They told me how many women they've fucked and how easy it is for them to have casual sex. Its not f'n rocket science. You also know about dating and sex lives of your female friends. It doesn't make you a f'n stalker. Stop bullshitting and talking li…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 08:43 AM
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Then how the F can women be below average facially, obese, short as midgets, old grannies and still get fucked left and right till a pastor lowers the f'n pine box into the ground and recites gospel words on it? So accept that only women are monoliths. Not men. Men have diverse tastes and standards. Women dont. Women are a monolith
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 08:39 AM
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What kind of guys do you do casual hookups, booty calls and FWB with?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 07:09 AM
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Real sex is sex without commitment. Its the sex you have with your fuck buddy
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 06:55 AM
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So what's the reason for the near universal experience of average and below average looking men when it comes to hookups? Why are they shut out of the hookup scene and told by women they're dating that they need to invest a lot of time, effort, money and emotions before it gets to the sexual stage?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 06:49 AM
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So they form connection with hot guys and chads within hours, but require months with average looking men
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 06:35 AM
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No. Men do not operate like this. They're either attracted to a woman or they're not. The degree of attraction doesn't dictate how soon they'll have sex or on what terms. We don't operate a hierarchy
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 06:31 AM
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Women in the comments are saying they put men into 2 categories: Hot enough to have fast track sex and marriage material
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 06:30 AM
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So you're not attracted to nice guys?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 06:29 AM
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So why the fuck can't you women stick to marrying men and having LTR's with men you're instantly attracted to and actually enjoy fucking? What the hell is stopping you from that?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 06:28 AM
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The woman who has already made that choice shouldn't be telling men they're not getting laid because they're not safe enough
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 06:26 AM
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If its such a huge risk, then why are you having casual sex? And if you're having casual sex, why the fuck are you telling men who struggle with it that they're not safe enough?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 06:25 AM
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So most women are ok with hookups and casual sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 06:24 AM
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Why do you shame men for caring about body count and sexual past if very few women have casual sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 06:23 AM
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Then why does every woman insult men for caring about body count and sexual past if only a rare few have casual sex? I know you're too dishonest to answer this
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 06:22 AM
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So you women are more physically and sexually attracted to your fuck buddies than to your husbands.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 06:19 AM
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Most women are a monolith when it comes to who they hookup with Why's that? Why do all women only want casual sex with conventionally hot guys only? Because theyr'e f'n monoliths
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 06:18 AM
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You need to stop lying. Average looking women don't have casual sex with average looking men. Below average women don't have casual sex with below average men. I'm a 3 in looks. Women who are 2s and 3s are busy being fuck buddies to 7s and 8s. When I try to date 3s, I'm promptly told I need to go through a completely different route
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 06:17 AM
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You're dishonest. He's talking about FWB, hookups, booty calls, short term sexual flings, situationships, etc. None of them is anonymous sex
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 06:15 AM
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So most women are ok with hookups then?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 06:13 AM
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So you never do hookups and casual sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 06:12 AM
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They suddenly switch to a world where hookups are the norm and if you're not getting hookups you're unfuckable. They conveniently forget majority of married men didn't hookup with their wives
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 06:11 AM
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So most women are ok with hookups and casual sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 06:10 AM
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They can't be ok with hookups and be demi at the same time
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 06:04 AM
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So why are men shamed for caring about body count if most women aren't having casual sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 06:00 AM
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So women change their sexual behaviors based on how hot the guy they're dating is?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 06:00 AM
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You can get to know them in social situations, but if you're not a hot guy, you're treated as a friend or a man who needs to build a deep emotional bond before he gets to the sexual stage. With hot guys, its sex fisrt
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 05:59 AM
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You are intellectually dishonest. OP is talking about no strings sex, FWB, sexual flings, booty calls, situationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 05:58 AM
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So most women are ok with hookups and sex without a commitment?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 05:57 AM
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So most women are ok with hookups?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 05:56 AM
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I wish I could upvote this a million times.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 05:55 AM
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Attractiveness is a poor indicator for women because the ugliest obesest oldest midget grannies can get fucked by 1000 men. Attractiveness is a very accurate indicator for men. Almost every highly promiscuous guy is conventionally good looking
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 02:23 AM
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Every man doesn't have casual sex (FWB, ONS, dating app hookups, club pickups, short term sexual flings, situationships, booty calls, etc) Only women and good looking men do
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 02:21 AM
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Yes, I have. Literally every conventionally good looking guy I've even known had women lined up to suck his dick. Why the fuck are you denying this?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 02:18 AM
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If casual sex is rare and very few women do it, then whats wrong with wanting to date/marry a woman who belongs to the overwhelming majority?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 09:56 AM
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Why don't women marry men who are also extremely hedonistic and promiscuous like them? Why the fuck do you want to marry men who weren't super hot enough to get casually laid?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 09:45 AM
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Yet those are almost the only men who do get casual sex. Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 09:42 AM
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Why is getting casual sex with the hottest stud...the biggest baddest motherfucker so important to women if your prioirty is safet, respect, good company, no loss of reputation with a man who's also cooperative? Why are you so hell bent on having casual sex with chads only?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 09:16 AM
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Then why are women lined up to suck his dick?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 09:14 AM
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Yet, women find sex in relationships less exciting and fulfilling than with hookups, flings and fuck buddies. Any reason?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 09:13 AM
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Lol, Self selection is a mf'r Its almost like these mfing prudes crawl out of the woodwork coming on questions like these pretending no one's fucking, lol. And the single women who do have active sex lives, f'n go hide in the corner to gatekeep the knowledge for god knows what reason, despite being completely anonymous online. READ THIS https://imgur.com/a/ZUAOCjW
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 09:12 AM
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Why do women insult men for caring about body count then?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 08:43 AM
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celebrities, athletes, small time, big time, models, influencers, hot guys in general, chads, struggling musicians, etc Women use sex to have a shot at hot men above their leagues. Why the hell are you pretending women aren't hooking up with hot guys?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 08:17 AM
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Then why do women get upset over body count debate?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 08:16 AM
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Your statement that majority of women have only 1-2 hookups is bullshit when literally woman who's single has sex partners
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 10:03 PM
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Literally every woman in her 20s and 30s who's single has an active sex life nowadays. How is that possible?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 07:36 PM
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No. I'm saying why do husbands come in all shapes, sizes, heights and levels of attractiveness, but hookups, FWBs, flings all come out of a cookie cutter. Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 07:29 PM
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Its funny that you say "demisexual is a niche market" when most answers from women here suggest otherwise. And I agree with you, it is a niche market because women compromise on sexual desire when marrying and call it "demisexuality"
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 06:51 PM
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Why do women only do hookups with men who represent their fantasy, true physical & sexual type, and the elite group of men?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 06:49 PM
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Why do you gatekeep genuine, free, natural sexual attraction so much?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 06:48 PM
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Almost every man is married to a woman he would've ABSOLUTELY done the following with: - Chosen for hookups - Swiped right on dating apps - Flirted with and picked up at a club - Chosen for a FWB / booty call arrangement - Done short-term purely sexual flings with
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 06:43 PM
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Hot men already have multiple women desperately in love with them. They just need to DECIDE they want to become husband material. They have both options. Most "husband materials" are settled for and don't have the option of free love/sex that you enjoy with hot men. They are boxed and pigeonholed into a certain role. They are not free birds.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 06:15 PM
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Which is ok because they they can just CHOOSE to become husband material anytime they want. They already have women desperately in love with them. They just need intent. They have both options.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 06:12 PM
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So its B, because many of the A's would've been settled for, but B at the very least represent men they're truly attracted to
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 06:07 PM
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Hot men enjoy a much wider range of experiences with women. They experience dimensions which inferior husband materials never do. If they want LTR;s they simply need to make minor mindset changes and have INTENT, and they're good to go there too. Literally every hot fuck-guy has LTR's and gets married and has children. The husband materials also get cheated on a lot with hot fuck boys. Why are you unwilling to accept that men need to be conventionally good-looking to live like average women and …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 11:56 AM
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So the hookup guys are the most desirable because they get both options in life. They have women lined up for both casual sex, flings as well as marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 11:03 AM
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All kinds of men with all kinds of personalities and psychological problems get casually laid if they are good looking/hot. In fact, most women admit that good dick is usually attached to unstable broke toxic men. I have also seen hypocritical men raised in puritanical cultures getting laid left and right in Western countries because they are blessed with the correct look and height for casual sex. I don't know wth you mean by sexually damaged. When you're below average looking (not acceptable a…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 09:32 AM
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So you women get both options (casual sex and LTR), but most men only get 1 option (LTR/marriage)?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 09:25 AM
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How the f do average, mediocre and below average looking women get casual laid left and right and experience men's lust?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 09:22 AM
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I'm talking about men you truly desire more. The men who were your first choices. They men you pursued for love. The men who had to put in the least time and effort to make you fall for them sexually and romantically both. The men you fantasize being intimate with. They men you tried to How is the bar for hookups lower when the hookup guys belong to a way more exclusive and privileged club that has to meet a way higher bar for attraction?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 09:19 AM
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Some do, others dont. When the guy is hot, you women don't require him to be part of your social circle to fuck him. He can exist outside your main circle. Why the fuck are you unwilling to accept that the COMMON DENOMINTOR among men who casually fuck a lot and easily is that they are HOT MEN? They can have female friends, they can not have female friends is not important. They get casual sex because they are conventionally hot men. Do you understand this?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 09:07 AM
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Sexually desirable, because without a high degree of sexual desire, the emotional connection would be subpar and imbalanced
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 09:05 AM
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So you women have won. The incels and blackpillers are correct then
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 09:00 AM
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Why wouldn't I want to be in a more exclusive club who has both options (casual sex and marriage)?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 08:58 AM
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So you agree that women dont lust after men who are at their level. Men do lust after women at their level. Ugly men will casually fuck ugly women
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 08:57 AM
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Women don't fuck all their male friends. They only fuck the hottest guys in their friends circle. So when there's a hot guy with good dick in the circle, women will pass him around proudly. Women are extremely shallow and will NEVER help a mediocre looking guy hookup casually with another friend. They protect each other from non-hot men and I've seen how it plays out. Like they're scared of offending each other but recommending a guy who isn't hot to their friends as a FWB. Why the hell are you …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 08:55 AM
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Then why do you require more time and effort to feel sexually attracted to him?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 08:47 AM
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They desire love with men who are highly sexually attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 08:46 AM
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So why were the hookup guys in an exclusive and elite club? Like, why were they absolute winners in genetics, socially, confidence wise, sexual ability wise. Why were they most envied men?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 08:28 AM
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Has had "A" hookup meaning he gets lucky once or twice in a lifetime. Why the f are you so dishonest? Im talking about guys who can have casual sex as a lifestyle. Not guys who get LUCKY once in a f'n lifetime
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 08:25 AM
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Ok, so why do men who are mediocre looking like me only get interest from marriage minded women who want to settle down? Why do we get told explicitly and implicitly by women we go on dates with that we don't make the cut for hookups & FWB but can be acceptable for LTR or marriage?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 10:11 AM
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Both. It makes no difference. You figure out their true sexual preferences sooner or later based on the guys they say they have a crush on, do situation-ships, sneaky links, and FWB with. All hot guys. Or if you go out in a group, you see who they flirt with (hot guys). Not talking about who they do the wedding with
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 09:19 AM
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For men, marriageable women are a subset of casually fuckable women Women are counterintuitive, sadly.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 09:17 AM
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Yes. If a woman can create the illusion that she's sexually conservative/cautious with all men, a man can emotionally invest
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 09:15 AM
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You find out who's crushing on and fucking whom through gossip.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 09:13 AM
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Very simple. I studied at a university. I saw which guys were active in the hookup scene. Which guys were having one night stands. Which guys had rosters of FWBs and were sneaking in girls into their dorms. Which guys were being passed around among girls. I have known 1000s of men in my life. I know which guys get many matches and hookups from Tinder and Bumble. I know which guys, when they go out to malls, parks, concerts, festivals, beach get approached by women. I know which guys easily flirt…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 09:10 AM
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They all want find the same kind of men sexually desirable. Their crushes, fuck buddies, sneaky links, ONS, booty calls, hot flings, situation-ships were with the same kind of dudes: Conventionally hot dudes. What should I look at? Do I look at the guy they marry at 38 ?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 09:05 AM
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Millions of women are liking, sharing, commenting and following that content. And I would still ignore that content, but what it exactly mirrors women's real life casual sex, hookup, sexual fling, FWB and situation-ship preferences? 5% of men get 90% of all likes on dating apps. What tf does it mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 09:03 AM
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And why shouldn't it because the man who gets the physical compliment is way way more likely to be the guy she actually wants to have sex with.. But who can argue with women's dishonesty
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 08:59 AM
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Right. And the men who are married also include - Below average looking men - Very shy and introverted men - Boring men The bar for casual sex is higher than for marriage then.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 08:49 AM
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Women are literally screaming on top of their lungs on social media that 90% of men are physically unattractive/ugly, that there's a chopped man epidemic, that they go out and every woman is gorgeous but only 1 in 100 men are hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 08:46 AM
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Agreed
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 08:21 AM
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The nuance is in the awareness. We want men to be aware. We don't want men to be emotionally sincere with women who see them as sexually inferior. You, on the other hand want the man who has to wait for 3 months to be oblivious of the fact that the woman he's pursuing fucks hot guys on 1st dates And the reason is not that you want average looking men a chance at relationships, but it creates a support system and fallback option for women
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 08:19 AM
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60 year old pensioners and obese women are getting laid left and right casually. why tf are you lying?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 08:15 AM
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The majority of men would never be able to sincerely emotionally invest in a woman after knowing the truth that they're seen as sexually inferior. They will just be with her as a "strategy" to secure mediocre semi regular sex because they're not good-looking/hot enough for hookups and FWB. Redpillers want men to be aware of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 08:14 AM
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It shows you're not as physically attracted to him as you were to the guys you fucked quickly and casually.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 08:07 AM
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Nobody gives a fuck about asexuals on this thread. They are outliers.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 08:04 AM
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Why don't you pursue relationships with men you have lust for? Why tf do you put men into boxes?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 08:02 AM
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So what tf made you fuck those men earlier or despite knowing they're just in it for sex? Whats different about those men?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 08:00 AM
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Our strategy of going cheap is a RESPONSE to your hierarchical system whereby you fuck hot dudes on 1st dates in car backseats for free but want average looking men to take you to dinner dates. Its a response to your duality.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 07:59 AM
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So let me explain what every man in this world observes: The men who get casual sex, hookups, FWB, sexual flings are in a more exclusive club with a way higher bar, while husbands come in all shapes, sizes and levels of physical attractiveness. You don't observe this?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 07:33 AM
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My experience has exactly been the same. So is the experience of millions of other men. The guy who gets to fuck casually, discreetly, more quickly is in a much more exclusive club with a higher bar.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 07:29 AM
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Just answer A or B
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 07:25 AM
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What about the difference in your REQUIREMENTS for LOOKS, BODY, and SEXUAL ABILITY ?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 07:25 AM
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I'm asking a question not telling them what to think.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 07:21 AM
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Who are the men who get casual sex with greatest ease? Like literally, women coming up to them offering them hookups?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 07:19 AM
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What about FWB, situation-ships, and short term sexual flings? What about the guys you are ORDERING from dating apps like pizza?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 07:16 AM
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Right, so what qualities do the hookup guy needs to have? Tell me, how and in what ways is he different than the husband?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 07:15 AM
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The most sexually successful dudes have friendships with men and women. Shallow socializing isn't friendships. They have a lot of fuck buddies. They rarely are friends with women they aren't fucking
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 07:12 AM
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So why are all the guys doing hookups, ONS, sexual flings, FWB rosters, conventionally hot? Like why the f do I see a HUGE variation in married men's looks, but very little variation in men who fuck casually? Why do you consider us idiots? We have eyes. We can see
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 07:10 AM
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The men who are most sexually successful, rarely have deeper friendships with women and tend to have shallow acquaintanceships. Conversely, and you know this very well, there are millions of men out there who have many female friends, socialize and all, but are physically unattractive so are completely shut out of the hookup, casual sex, FWB stuff. You know those men they are in every group.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 07:06 AM
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Lol! then how the F do husbands represent who you're truly attracted to and not the guys you're f'n hooking up with?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 07:03 AM
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They behave like a monolith when it comes to hookups, FWB, sexual flings, situation-ships, swiping right on dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 07:02 AM
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So you only have sex within marriage and LTR's ?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 07:01 AM
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Lol, Self selection is a mf'r You have these mfing prudes crawling out of the woodwork coming on questions like these pretending no one's fucking, lol. And the single women who do have active sex lives, f'n go hide in the corner to gatekeep the knowledge for god knows what reason, despite being completely anonymous online.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 06:55 AM
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Pick one. Say I'm a dumb mfing clown and I need to bet $10,000 I have in my bank on group A or B Who'd be a safer bet?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 06:52 AM
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What you consider average looking man is in reality top 10% Try to realize how shallow and elitist you are as a woman
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 06:55 AM
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No, I understand. Men need to be really good-looking to experience the same attraction and lust that mediocre looking women experience. Its kinda funny that we have to be that good-looking to experience a basic thing like having another person wanting to fuck you
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 01:46 AM
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You are seeking hot men Hot men won't be virgins
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 01:44 AM
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Why are you unwilling to address that good looking/hot guys do get UNWANTED attention from women all the time based on visual attraction alone?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 06:33 AM
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Open Tinder. I made a fake profile of a 4'8, 50 year old, facially unappealing, overweight Indian janitor lady. I had 1000 likes, 100+ matches, and 30 decent looking, tall, fit young men willing to meet up and fuck in NYC area.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 05:04 AM
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Throughout college, I saw the bottom of the barrel girls getting laid left and right. The bottom 5% in the whole university.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 04:06 AM
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Like I fail to grasp how does a girl beg a guy to give him a blowjob? Like did he get straight up offers or were these girls he was already hooking up with hitting him up
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 04:05 AM
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Ugly women get casually laid left and right. Wtf are you talking about. Ugly men don't get casually laid
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 03:51 AM
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Your type is most women's type. You want a tall conventionally handsome guy with a stubble. Women are a monolith
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 03:21 AM
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So you just do situationships with hot guys above your league
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 03:17 AM
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You just implied that even ugly women only lust for men who are average and higher
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 03:08 AM
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If the men on the left had wonderful personalities, and the men on the right had boring dead personality, the latter will still get at least 100 times more dating, sexual, and romantic interest from women. Why is that so if personality is more important to women than looks?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 03:00 AM
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So why don't unattractive women lust after average men allowing men to understand what women experience? Good looking/hot guys get UNWANTED attention from women all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 02:24 AM
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Then why are very good looking / hot guys lives are full of getting sexual attention from women they're not interested in?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 02:23 AM
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You don't lust after 95% of the men you interact with as friends and colleagues. Why are you downplaying that the men you lust for (that you ofcourse also intreact with) have to be conventionally good looking and hot?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 02:20 AM
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The doofus says that looks can be changed and any guy can look like a male model. You women really are something
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 11:52 AM
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He's saying the guy needs to be exceptionally hot + a bunch of other things for you to feel lust. You are bullshitting that good looks aren't important and you can feel lust for a mediocre, below average looking man with a good character/personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 11:33 AM
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It would be easier to improve your looks than it would be to grow a better personality so I'm not sure why this is seen as virtue signaling. Most of you have better chances of becoming models than being good flirts. How can the men on left turn into men on the right? Why are you so dishonest? <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 11:31 AM
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Why do you have relationships with men you're not physically attracted to?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 10:27 AM
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What age group were these women and how old was he?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 10:26 AM
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So only average and higher men should have relationships with women?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 10:24 AM
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Thats strange
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 10:23 AM
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So you don't feel lust for your boyfriends and husbands?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 10:20 AM
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Whats the difference b/w the guy who's your crush and a normal guy you date? You mean you didn't lust after all your boyfriends? Also, being a woman you can easily just have casual sex with a hot guy you're crushing on even if he's above your league.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 10:19 AM
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But your libido becomes 'male libido' only for super hot guys way above your league
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 03:14 PM
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How is it not a flex to be so good-looking, so hot, so privileged that you're chosen for pure unconditional sexual desire? Clearly, you see these men in a totally special, privileged group
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 12:23 PM
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Exactly. Because of biological reasons you have way more physical and sexual attraction towards your hookup and sexual flings than your husbands and LTR partners. The former have to meet a way higher and exclusive standard of sexual and physical attraction. They also get sex on favorable terms with higher levels of lust and raw desire. Thats why its a bigger prize for men to want to be the "hookup guy" than "husband material"
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 12:12 PM
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If a man finds you attractive enough as a LT-gf or wife, he also finds you attractive enough for a hookup or sexual fling. Why isn't it always true with genders reversed? Why am I told by women I am not attractive enough for hookups & sexual flings, but can be considered for marriage or LTR?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 11:31 AM
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So if I and millions of mediocre looking men meet the physical attraction benchmark for a LTR/marriage, why can't we meet the benchmark for hookups & sexual flings for the same women? Why are we deemed too INFERIOR for hookups & sexual flings? Why is our only option LTR & marriage? <image> Read what these women are saying. They aren't saying they go for a DIFFERENT type of men (which is fucked up itself, but I'll ignore it for the sake or argument). They are saying the looks standards are HIGHER…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 11:10 AM
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Then why the fuck is it immensely harder for average looking men to be "hookup material" than become the "husband material" ? Why do women keeps saying that their looks, hotness, and good dick benchmarks for sexual flings are way higher than for LTR and marriage? Read women's responses here https://imgur.com/a/womens-casual-partners-are-way-more-physically-attractive-sexually-superior-to-long-term-partners-husbands-latter-are-inferior-arent-attractive-enough-recreational-as-evidenced-from-respon…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 11:00 AM
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I am only going by what women have told me. 1000s have women have told me that their looks, hotness, body, good dick benchmarks are way higher when seeking sexual flings than marriage and LTR. This is a topic that vexes women immensely and they only engage in it if its framed in a non judgemental way. Read women's responses to this question https://imgur.com/a/womens-casual-partners-are-way-more-physically-attractive-sexually-superior-to-long-term-partners-husbands-latter-are-inferior-arent-attr…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 10:58 AM
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Flings are usually done with good looking/hot men that women enjoy fucking for the sake of fucking. Exceptions might exist Mediocre looking men like us have to form an "emotional bond" and make her life easier in other ways first in order to be fuckable. Big difference, mate.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 10:38 AM
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So you have low libido and are un-enthusiastic about sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 10:35 AM
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But they were enthusiastic about fucking you. How does that work?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 08:10 AM
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Do you have relationships with men you're not enthusiastic about fucking?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 07:38 AM
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Thats what so many average guys are realizing and why dating is broken in 2025 Women are framing it as maturity and emotional illiteracy crisis among men
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 06:53 AM
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Why do mediocre & below average looking women see more value in being chads "cum dumpster / fleshlight" than an average looking guys "love of life" ?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 06:49 AM
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I think its safe to assume most women do have sex on 2nd and 3rd dates with certain guys they date throughout their lives (not just during some naive youthful phase). Its not just how quickly the sex happens but also the whole dynamics, nature and conditionality of it. I understand a lot of women don't fuck on 1st and 2nd dates due to safety reasons even if the guy is super hot and they intend it to be a totally fun no strings hot passionate fling.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 06:46 AM
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Its not necessarily a phase in youth. A woman can get out of a marriage or LTR at 33 and have a few short-term flings with super hot guys with entirely different sexual dynamics, before finding another stable normie long term guy for a 5 year relationship. She's single again nearing 40 and then has another string of flings with super hot guys, and so on So its not a youthful mistake. Its just consciously dating different men with whom you have very different levels of desire for different purpos…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 06:41 AM
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Its not necessarily a phase in youth. A woman can get out of a marriage or LTR at 33 and have a few short term flings with a super hot guys with entirely different sexual dynamics. Then she finds another long term stable normie guy and has a 5 year relationship. Again, in her late 30s or early 40s she has those short term flings with super hot guys. So its not a youthful mistake. Its just consciously dating different men for different purposes
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 06:38 AM
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Men and women are very different. Women see sex as a privilege for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 06:34 AM
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Weird phrase to use in this context.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 06:32 AM
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Exactly. And the hookup guys are the ones you're truly attracted to physically and sexually. Not sure why men want to be the "hookup guy"
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 06:21 AM
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So whats the male equivalent of the average woman having a wild phase? You know, so they can grow and want different things later on w/o it being some kind of contradiction Just for the sake of symmetry, Or only women get both options, while most men only get one?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 06:17 AM
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I think that an increasing number of average and below average looking women end up having flings and situationships with Chads and chadlites at some point in their lives. Relationship and marriage rates are falling, not situationship/fling rates
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 06:13 AM
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Yes. Women celebrate privileged men by giving them sex and lust Men celebrate privileged women by giving them resources and lifestyle Sadly, there are more men than women expecting privileged treatment in relationships that only top tier people can get
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 06:07 AM
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Why the fuck call it "Healing Phase" to men you're later interesting in "settling down" with?? Example: I had a lot of casual sex because I was going through a "healing phase". I will only fuck you after we're exclusively dating and a formal couple
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 10:24 AM
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Even non famous people. The Wade Wilson guy before he got famous was still abusive, sadistic, psychopath. Dozens of women were lined up always to love and fuck him
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 01:24 PM
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Not poor judges of character. Just that character doesn't matter to most women in sexual attraction
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 01:09 PM
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What does it tell you that toxic and violent men have way more dating options in society than normal average looking men?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 01:07 PM
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Single women aren't celibate, so what exactly is 4B?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 02:07 AM
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If you don't give nice guys a chance, the alternate is hooking up with Chads and hot guys and deal with the uncertainty. You risk becoming an eternal fuck buddy to Chads.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 02:06 AM
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You're being racist. That tweet is from a BW
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 03:38 AM
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Ugly women get laid left and right here
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 03:45 AM
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How many matches do you think that midget special needs lady can get per week if she swipes right on say 30% of guys (She needs to have standards after all, lol)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 12:27 AM
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I have myself done Tinder experiments using obese, ugly, middle aged women pics. I had 1000+ likes and 100 offers to meet up and fuck within a week.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 12:24 AM
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The redpill grifters want men to get laid. They are not taking anything from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 11:36 PM
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That is not the experience for majority of men who have to jump through hoops to get laid and have to perform in other aspects of life, invest time, effort, emotions to get laid. Why do you think casual/pure sex for its own sake is something you women reserve for a very elite category of genetically blessed men? Why do you insult/ shame men for wanting a sex life in this day and age that doesn't require them to get married first? Don't you honestly believe getting married just to have sex is an …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 10:42 PM
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Ok, because it felt like you said you don't seek out the boy next door type when you want to casually fuck
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 10:05 PM
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So you should have mentioned that you are a woman who only fucks after marriage, because that information is crucial to this discussion. The vast majority of women are two faced dualistic pos who want some men to wine and dine them while fucking super hot guys behind dumpster cans
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 10:01 PM
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What if the guy is really hot and wants a coffee date?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 09:42 PM
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They why are you fucking some men casually?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 09:40 PM
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All the fears and anxiety that you mentioned most men feel around this subject would go away if men could, just like women, have a sex life that wasn't tied to performing in other areas of life. Why do you think men have 100 times more anxiety around sex, sexual performance, sexual desirability than women?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 09:28 PM
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So that means you want super hot Chads just the way men want average women. Because you can sexually behave with Super hot Chads just like men behave with average women and want to fuck them instantly, without requiring any other bullshit. How is that a win for "husband material" men?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 09:09 PM
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The women on this thread and the link below say otherwise https://imgur.com/a/womens-casual-partners-are-way-more-physically-attractive-sexually-superior-to-long-term-partners-husbands-latter-are-inferior-arent-attractive-enough-recreational-as-evidenced-from-responses-TViyiCJ
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 09:05 PM
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Thanks. That makes sense. The standards for someone when you're just horny and dgaf about should be lower than someone you intend to fuck for the rest of your life. Its amazing how stupid women on this thread have it ass backwards
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 09:04 PM
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You are just being snarky now. Why can't you answer the question
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 09:03 PM
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Like most twisted, non-sensical, hypocritical women in this thread, do you also have a much higher good looks standard for casual hookup/FWB guys than for long term partners?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 08:54 PM
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They why is it extremely hard for most men to be those men if they are not the best? Why is it harder to be that man than be a husband?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 08:52 PM
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She fucked him without requiring any time, emotional investment, effort, courting. Why can't she fuck the relationship material guys that quickly, easily, without conditions? What do they lack?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 08:50 PM
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Why can't the husband material guy just enjoy sexual relationships for their own sake? Why are most men slaves to marriage and long term bonds for sex? If you can have a sex life when you're single, why can't men?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 08:48 PM
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Its just the ability to have purely sexual relationships that don't involve performing in another aspect of life. Why are these relationships only available to super hot men, but to all women?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 08:46 PM
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Being the most attractive person my partner’s ever been with is not something I get. Men aren't expecting that either. They are just concerned why they can't meet the cut for casual sex for the very women they're in relationships with / married to. I agree that women have higher standards for a ONS’s attractiveness. I disagree that this means that women like their LTRs less. What else does it mean? The husband material is not good looking/hot enough for casual sex. You need to like a man a lot m…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 08:43 PM
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Why do you insult men for wanting sexual validation and lie to them that its not important, when you yourself enjoy casual sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 08:34 PM
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Why do you have both options: Have sex within long term relationships and do Pump 'N' Dump , but most men only have the former option?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 08:31 PM
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Do you despise these women? Please disagree with them and say they are morons https://imgur.com/a/womens-casual-partners-are-way-more-physically-attractive-sexually-superior-to-long-term-partners-husbands-latter-are-inferior-arent-attractive-enough-recreational-as-evidenced-from-responses-TViyiCJ
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 08:24 PM
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Why aren't women having casual hookups, sexual flings, FWB and booty calls with oofy doofy men?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 08:23 PM
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You never did hookups, casual flings, FWB situationships with guys?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 08:22 PM
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So himbo's are superior males who don't have to put in 10 times the time, effort, emotional investment to get laid? You admire, desire them so much, that you exempt them from all other requirements when it comes to sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 08:10 PM
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Women have a completely different sexual dynamic when dating a guy who's really good-looking/hot <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 07:50 PM
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Not being a man's ideal is less problematic than not being a woman's ideal as I already explained. Not being a woman's ideal means she needs you to fulfill her emotional, financial and functional needs in life to want to fuck you. Not being a man's ideal mean's you don't look like the pornstar he occasionally jerks off to. He stilll desires sex with you UNCONDTIONALLY. And if he's single he would still accept you for casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 07:05 PM
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If sex is not better with hookups, then why don't you choose your relationship phenotypes for hookups? Example: Many women in this thread are saying they have casual hookups with super hot Chads and relationships with more regular looking guys, but the casual sex with Chads was not better or more fulfilling. When I ask them "So the next time you're seeking a casual hookup, would you choose the regular looking relationship type for that purpose?" And they answer "No. We will go back to the hot Ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 07:02 PM
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Women don't need to be the male ideal to find sexual partners. Why do men need to be women's male model ideal to find sexual partners? Do you agree that men face way more pressure than women to be good looking in order to have a sex life and feel sexually validated?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 06:58 PM
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What about this tweet? You disagree with this woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 06:56 PM
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There are women with a million problems in life and they have purely sexual relationships with hot guys. The guys are not expected to help with any other aspect of life. Why are these relationships available to every woman regardless of looks, but only available to genetically/physically gifted men?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 06:53 PM
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No. We understand we can't be the best. We are only asking why we don't make the cut for casual sex, hookups, sexual flings, and FWB? Why do you reserve that for the BEST?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 06:51 PM
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So if you want to casually hookup again, why wouldn't you choose the emotionally balanced boy next door types? You just said you enjoyed sex with them better after all. Then why would you still prefer the super hot loser emotional train wrecks for casual sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 06:48 PM
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Because for men there is a a universe between their fantasy and reality. Men watch hot models in porn but will have casual sex with below average, fat, women happily. Go make a Tinder account of an ugly woman and she'll have 1000 men willing to fuck within a week. You women on the other hand only want to casually fuck male models and gym trainers. You uttered this in your comment above. Why is that?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 06:44 PM
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So as a man I should take pride in the fact that I cannot have sex for recreation alone? That there is an elite group of men you reserve that desire for, and me, being an inferior male needs to provide commitment and emotional investment in a long term relationship to get laid. And I should be happy that my wife has both options in life, while I'm limited to just one. I should be happy that when my wife is single she chooses a category of genetically superior men that look nothing like me. And w…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 06:41 PM
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So you mean getting married validates women's desirability in the same way getting casual sex validates men's?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 06:35 PM
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the question isn't about boomer or GenX women Many women even today claim that the men they ended up marrying are much less sexually/physically attractive than the men they dated casually, hooked up and had casual sex with. What do you think about these women's responses? They aren't boomers https://imgur.com/a/womens-casual-partners-are-way-more-physically-attractive-sexually-superior-to-long-term-partners-husbands-latter-are-inferior-arent-attractive-enough-recreational-as-evidenced-from-respo…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 06:32 PM
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Men don't say that their wives don't make the cut for casual sex Only women say that their husbands are not attractive enough to be fuck buddies Why is that? https://imgur.com/a/womens-casual-partners-are-way-more-physically-attractive-sexually-superior-to-long-term-partners-husbands-latter-are-inferior-arent-attractive-enough-recreational-as-evidenced-from-responses-TViyiCJ
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 06:24 PM
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What if a man just wants the ability to have sexual relationships that are not tied to performance in other aspects of life? Why is that such an outlandish, unreasonable, monstrous, devious desire?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 06:22 PM
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Men feel that way because women say that they admire, desire, and lust for their casual sex partners way more than the men they end up marrying. Men have lower beauty standards for casual sex than for wives. Just read these women's responses. I know this will make you uncomfortable https://imgur.com/a/womens-casual-partners-are-way-more-physically-attractive-sexually-superior-to-long-term-partners-husbands-latter-are-inferior-arent-attractive-enough-recreational-as-evidenced-from-responses-TViyi…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 06:20 PM
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Do you think the women in these screenshots are from an older generation? https://imgur.com/a/womens-casual-partners-are-way-more-physically-attractive-sexually-superior-to-long-term-partners-husbands-latter-are-inferior-arent-attractive-enough-recreational-as-evidenced-from-responses-TViyiCJ
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 06:18 PM
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Here is proof that many if not most women settle when marrying https://imgur.com/a/womens-casual-partners-are-way-more-physically-attractive-sexually-superior-to-long-term-partners-husbands-latter-are-inferior-arent-attractive-enough-recreational-as-evidenced-from-responses-TViyiCJ
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 06:17 PM
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How much of women's loss of sex drive has to do with not marrying physically attractive/hot guys she would choose for casual sex, hookups and FWB? <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 06:16 PM
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How should men have sex when they're not married or in a long term serious relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 06:14 PM
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Why do so many men go into celibacy after divorce for years until they're lucky enough to find their next wife, while women start having casual sex and hookups with hot young men? The man who just got divorced met the attractiveness threshold for his ex wife, right? Why does he fail to find sex after getting divorce, but the woman doesnt?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 06:10 PM
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You haven't been to a university. Top tier chads regularly have FWB and booty calls with girls who are 2s and 3s.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 06:06 PM
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Every woman can find plenty of men who find her sexually desirable. The reverse isn't true
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 05:59 PM
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We can see women in relationships with physically attractive men and the sexual dynamics are totally different. You are talking about abstract notion that women work differently and always need more than physical attraction. Ground reality is that their relationships with hot guys have a completely different sexual dynamic. Read the substack article <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 05:58 PM
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If they are no women who desire them naturally then they need to choose better women Read this again. Its inaccurate
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 06:31 AM
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Women are more selective and are physically attracted to very few men. Many mediocre / below average looking men cannot find any woman who finds them physically attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 06:30 AM
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I have myself done Tinder experiments using obese, ugly, middle aged women pics. I had 1000+ likes and 100 offers to meet up and fuck within a week. The next thing a woman normally utters when I say this is "So what, men would fuck anything that moves" You women literally dont stand for any consistent stance. You keep moving goal posts at whim
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 06:26 AM
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Sexual attraction is the foundation. Why can't men have that foundation?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 06:02 AM
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Because there are no women who desire them naturally. As a woman you only desire super good-looking/hot guys. The rest have to provide some other kind of value
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 06:01 AM
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Who desire them physically and sexually without the bullshit. That should be a foundation. Why is it so hard for men to find that foundation?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 06:00 AM
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"There are tons of dudes out there rocking 3-4 inches hard." Rocking in what context? Marriages or in fuc-buddy style
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 05:16 AM
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You haven't read about divorced women rediscovering sex drive ?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 05:02 AM
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They do prefer the casual partners for sex in isolation. The sex with the casual sex partners was more raw, visceral. It did not require an emotional bond. Sex with the casual sex partners transcends emotional bonds and circumstances. Sex with a husband requires an emotional bond to make it worthwhile. Sex with a super good looking fuck buddy/fling stands on its own. You aren't thinking about sex in isolation If the emotional bond wasn't there or gets broken, you'd suddenly realize there's no po…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 04:47 AM
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Do you remain celibate when you're not in a long term committed relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 04:06 AM
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You are a rare woman who didn't sleep with Chad. All the women here are saying they have/had casual sex with Chads and then married a different kind of man who was in most cases not good enough for casual sex Do you at least understand now why men care about sexual past and are averse to marrying women who had casual sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 03:56 AM
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Lol! Since when the fuck did women's looks matter for casual sex? Are you outta your fucking mind? <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 03:42 AM
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Yes, mediocre women have the same privilege as good-looking men. Men face way more pressure than women to be good-looking to be sexually desired.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 03:39 AM
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Read about how divorced women suddenly realize they didn't lose interest in sex, they were just bored of their husbands looks. Soon after divorce they start meeting much younger hotter guys casually and enjoy the best sex of their lives. No emotional bond needed with men after divorce. No concern about whether they help out in any other aspect of life. No concern about whether those guys are broke, disciplined, educated, have their own place, nothing. Why? Because those guys are young hot Chads.…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 03:36 AM
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The concern is about being physically and sexually desirable to women, and hookups, casual sex, FWB, flings are the litmus test of that. Pretty privilege for women is ability to make money off sex. Pretty privilege for men is getting laid itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 03:28 AM
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So you remain celibate when you're not in a long term committed relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 03:25 AM
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Its not important to be paid for for having sex. It IS important to be attractive enough to have sex Men are just concerned about being equals. You want to be superior to men Coming back to the topic, why is every woman in this thread agreeing with the linked responses? I don't think its toxic to respond truthfully to the question about looks standards for casual sex when asked online
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 02:20 AM
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You never had a purely sexual relationship with a guy that didn't involve a commitment and exclusivity from his side?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 02:10 AM
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The women in the link are saying their husband and long term boyfriends were not good looking enough to make the cut for FWB/hookups
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 02:08 AM
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So women are only able to fuck conventionally hot men instantly based on looks alone. That means the manosphere is correct: Men face way more pressure than women to be conventionally good-looking in order to have dating & sexual options. Women are shallower, elitist, and find way fewer men physically attractive than vice versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 02:05 AM
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When she's married to Chad, she can disassociate sexual desire from the emotional connection and other bullshit going on in life. She can view sex as her own need rather than a maintenance activity of the relationship that many married women do If my wife isn't doing the chores around the house, at night when she wants to fuck, I won't tell her "Because you didn't do xyz, I don't want to have sex with you either". I won't because at least she's taking care of some need. Emotional bond not being …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 02:03 AM
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Great question. All these women disagree with you and say the risk is worth it https://imgur.com/a/womens-casual-partners-are-way-more-physically-attractive-sexually-superior-to-long-term-partners-husbands-latter-are-inferior-arent-attractive-enough-recreational-as-evidenced-from-responses-TViyiCJ
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 01:57 AM
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"Because appearance is the only thing that matters in that selection " So your long term partners/ husbands don't have the appearance required for that selection?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 01:54 AM
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Why do women have higher beauty standards for casual sex partners?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 01:51 AM
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Nature dosent make enough hot men that women want to fuck instantly. Why are gay men able to want to fuck average looking men instantly?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 01:46 AM
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What the fuck do you have to say about women's responses here? https://imgur.com/a/womens-casual-partners-are-way-more-physically-attractive-sexually-superior-to-long-term-partners-husbands-latter-are-inferior-arent-attractive-enough-recreational-as-evidenced-from-responses-TViyiCJ
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 01:44 AM
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The husbands may be less conventionally attractive, but they are attractive enough for their wives to have sex with them, and they ALSO have traits worthy of a relationship. It takes a long time to find someone worthy of marriage, so if you have some casual sex to tide you over until then, the man doesn’t have to have the greatest personality; he just has to inspire lust. So while a man seeks someone worthy of marriage, how should he meet his sexual needs if he's not born with male model genetic…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 01:42 AM
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Its the same IRL. Women only have casual sex, hookups, FWB, sexual flings with super hot guys who are the top n% of men in the proximity. It is the same in universities, workplaces, clubs, dating apps, social circles. Average and below average looking men have to jump through hoops to get laid. They usually have to get into a long term relationships or get married to have a sex life. This isn't something women experience. Our sexual attraction to women is binary. We're either attracted to you or…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 01:35 AM
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LOL! Almost every woman under 35 these days has casual sex, hookups, FWB situationships with hot guys. Why are you lying? Even most relationships start as hookups. Single women aren't celibate.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 01:20 AM
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What is this https://imgur.com/a/womens-casual-partners-are-way-more-physically-attractive-sexually-superior-to-long-term-partners-husbands-latter-are-inferior-arent-attractive-enough-recreational-as-evidenced-from-responses-TViyiCJ
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 01:18 AM
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Women on this sub and others. They say when they are looking for casual sex, hookups, FWB, sexual lovers, their requirements for good looks/hotness are way higher than for husbands. Read these women's responses https://imgur.com/a/womens-casual-partners-are-way-more-physically-attractive-sexually-superior-to-long-term-partners-husbands-latter-are-inferior-arent-attractive-enough-recreational-as-evidenced-from-responses-TViyiCJ
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 01:17 AM
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Right, so you're saying the husbands are mediocre in looks and sexual ability and it would be "Wasting your time" to have casual sex with men like them. How is it a compliment to the man who's "husband material" knowing that the only way he can have sex is by putting in 100 times more effort, time, emotional investment than the guy you fucked casually and means little to you? How is it a compliment knowing that you are limited in your life and cannot experience recreational sex for its own sake.…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 01:12 AM
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How is it a compliment when you're told you're not attractive enough to be a lover / FWB / sexual fling, but ok as a husband?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 01:07 AM
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For not being picked for marriage or casual sex/hookups/flings/FWB ? Many of us have the option to be picked as a husband. But we are told we are not good looking hot enough to be the sexual lover/FWB Are you going to deny that women have "purely sexual" relationships with a different category of men?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 01:06 AM
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I have asked this question to 100s of women IRL and 1000s online and the vast majority of them say the same thing: The LOOKS and HIOTNESS standards for casual sex, hookups, sexual flings and FWB are way higher than for a husband What do you think about the reponses of women here? https://imgur.com/a/womens-casual-partners-are-way-more-physically-attractive-sexually-superior-to-long-term-partners-husbands-latter-are-inferior-arent-attractive-enough-recreational-as-evidenced-from-responses-TViyiCJ
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 01:03 AM
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Lol. So your husband doesn't make the cut for FWB. When you were seeking FWB, you wouldn't have chosen your husband because he isn't hot enough to be one
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 12:49 AM
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90% of woman I know irl followed the same pattern Hookups, FWB, sexual flings were hotter than husbands. Why is that so? Why do you only do casual sex, hookups, sexual flings with conventionally hot men?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 12:48 AM
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And what are the qualities needed in a man for FWB?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 12:46 AM
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Because men have higher beauty standards for wives than for casual sex and FWB. Its the opposite for women: Your casual sex partners, hookups, FWB are way hotter than the men you end up marrying Read women's responses https://imgur.com/a/womens-casual-partners-are-way-more-physically-attractive-sexually-superior-to-long-term-partners-husbands-latter-are-inferior-arent-attractive-enough-recreational-as-evidenced-from-responses-TViyiCJ
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 12:43 AM
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Why do most women (both irl and online) say that their casual sex partners, hookups, sexual flings/lovers, and FwB were way better looking, hotter than the men they ended up marrying? Just read women's answers to this question and tell me this isn't common https://imgur.com/a/womens-casual-partners-are-way-more-physically-attractive-sexually-superior-to-long-term-partners-husbands-latter-are-inferior-arent-attractive-enough-recreational-as-evidenced-from-responses-TViyiCJ
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 12:41 AM
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Why aren't they exploring their sexuality casually with the oofy doofy guys then end up marrying? Men call it the "pump n dump phase" for a reason: The men in that phase and the men they end up marrying are worlds apart. Why do the oofy doofy guys only get laid after marrying someone or emotionally investing? Whats the missing piece here?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 12:39 AM
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They have anxiety because they're not able to have casual sex relationships with women. They are 'told' long term relationships and marriage is their only option.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 12:37 AM
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They matter. When you were in that phase seeking FWB situations, would you have chosen your husband for FWB? Or is he not good looking/hot enough to be FWB and has to provide 100 other things (emotional support, common interests, common goals, financial stability) in order to be acceptable to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 12:32 AM
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Why do most women say that their casual sex partners, hookups, sexual flings/lovers, and FwB were way better looking, hotter than the men they ended up marrying? Just read women's answers to this question and tell me this isn't common https://imgur.com/a/womens-casual-partners-are-way-more-physically-attractive-sexually-superior-to-long-term-partners-husbands-latter-are-inferior-arent-attractive-enough-recreational-as-evidenced-from-responses-TViyiCJ
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 12:29 AM
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Why do most women say that their casual sex partners, hookups, sexual flings/lovers, and FwB were way better looking, hotter than the men they ended up marrying? Just read women's answers to this question and tell me this isn't common https://imgur.com/a/womens-casual-partners-are-way-more-physically-attractive-sexually-superior-to-long-term-partners-husbands-latter-are-inferior-arent-attractive-enough-recreational-as-evidenced-from-responses-TViyiCJ
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 12:29 AM
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You say you had fun sexual experiences with past partners. Were they casual and/or primarily sexual in nature? Were they FWB styled partners?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 12:04 AM
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Blue Pill sub is dead for a reason. They have nothing left to debate so they just censor all posts
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 06:13 AM
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Why doesn't that apply to men's stated preferences and importance of looks?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 05:55 AM
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All the guys I know who do best with women aren't that attractive at all. What's your definition of "good with women"? You mean they are married? Or do they get regular hookups, sexual flings, and FwB with women?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 05:54 AM
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So who do you hookup and do FwB stuff with?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 05:52 AM
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There's no meltdown. They just refuse to engage
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 05:52 AM
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What about the men you hooked up and did FwB with?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 05:49 AM
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Most guys meet your looks threshold but you still date the hottest ones
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 05:44 AM
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Do they lie about it? Why are women lying?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 05:43 AM
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Men don't
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 05:42 AM
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You dont feel the spark for ALL beautiful men But all the men you feel spark for are beautiful
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 05:43 PM
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Why can't society wholeheartedly accept that women are shallower and elitist about physical attraction and find few men desirable, so that mediocre and below average looking men who are struggling can have a legitimate go to explanation for their situation that is accepted by all? If I say that I have no love/sex life, 9/10 people will say something about my character, personality, and other bullshit. Why can't society sympathize with men and just tell them it is what is and this aspect of life …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 05:39 PM
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Men are routinely told they need to be "good men" to attract women. That if they are failing they must not be good men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 05:32 PM
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I feel very fulfilled after the possibility of hookups. Never actually had hookups due to being below average in looks
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 12:52 PM
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How would you have relationships with super hot guys if you're screening out the guys who want to hookup first and then see where things go?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 11:37 AM
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This question lights up firecrackers up women's backsides, but do you have entirely different LOOKS standards for men who ASK FOR CASUAL upfront as opposed to those who say they want a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 11:36 AM
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What's different about the guys she does/did fuck on 1st dates or without any conditions?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 11:33 AM
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What if the guy is really hot and in your proximity? Say at work there's a really hot guy who you interact with and he might be interested in a casual fling under the radar? IRL, I have rarely seen women (including married ones) resist such a possibility
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 11:33 AM
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Are you not aware that some people do not enjoy casual sex at all? Like, it doesn't matter who its with, the concept holds no appeal. What if the guy is really hot and in your proximity? Say at work there's a really hot guy who you interact with and he might be interested in a casual fling under the radar? IRL, I have rarely seen women (including married ones) resist such a possibility
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 11:32 AM
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The dating experiences of a large proportion of male population says that its extremely common to keep going on dates without sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 11:29 AM
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Then whats different about men you do/did fuck on 1st dates?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 11:27 AM
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You didn't fuck all the very handsome men you offered sex. But ALL the men you fucked on 1st dates / casually were very handsome. So if you're dating someone who's not as handsome and you refuse to have sex with him early on, there's an inconsistency in how you are sexually treating different men youre DATING depending on their hierarchy on the looks scale.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 11:24 AM
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But you do have that fetish for the taut body and youthful face of the 19 year old, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 01:40 PM
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May I have your permission to screenshot this, I like to collect examples so I can shove in women's faces when they bark that men go after younger age inappropriate women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 01:11 PM
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Must be fun fucking all barely legal teen boys. You can surely do that till one foot is in the grave even. imagine the whimmens uproar against man in his 30s seeking 18 year old girls for casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 01:05 PM
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Why are serious relationship age guys unacceptable to you for casual stuff? Are they too ugly for sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 12:39 PM
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This is typical mindset in women nowadays. A lot of women in the comments are bullshitting that its not common but they cunningly only talk about serious relationships not casual flings and FWB situations with young men
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 12:37 PM
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Read your comment again. Slowly
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 12:36 PM
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Were you very good looking and tall as a teenager?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 12:35 PM
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For sex or long term relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 12:35 PM
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Definitely. Men are down bad and are now pursuing women their mothers and even grandmothers age.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 12:34 PM
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How the hell do average and below average looking women's flaws get overlooked by men? Mediocre looking women who have no career, work dead end jobs, live with parents, etc have 100s of dating options. What are you missing here?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 12:30 PM
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Go to a college campus. Dating is difficult for around 60-70% of male students easily.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 12:28 PM
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It isn't mandatory, but women's aren't celibate. You can only preach what you practice.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 12:27 PM
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This will light up firecrackers up many women's, feminists, liberals, wokes backsides who are painting a very different picture
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 12:23 PM
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But why are women lacking in these areas even more than men? Women have no empathy for male pleasure. Women have no metric to measure their performance. Women never communicate with men to ask men about what they like in bed. Why are you so biased against men and hold them to higher benchmarks of sexual performance, communication and empathy than women?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 12:29 PM
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So you're 9/10 in looks ?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 12:08 PM
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You mean you have to be a kinky whore to keep Chads attention who's above your league, and you're uninterested in sex with men who are in your serious relationship league <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 12:03 PM
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No. Its because men are more willing to accept mediocre sex due to lack of options so they don't dare to complain as much
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 12:00 PM
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So they are above your league and you're doing a tradeoff, much like a man sugardaddying a hot young girl. Its not sex on equal terms. What about sex with your looks-matches, the kind of guys you date for long term?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 11:59 AM
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So how come women who are mediocre in bed still have 100s of men willing to fuck and keep coming back for more? Why are non-pornstaresque women not struggling to get laid?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 11:37 AM
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There is however a not entirely baseless stereotype, that a lot of men are bad in bed. Then why do you say this if women are equally likely to be bad in bed?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 11:35 AM
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It all comes down to supply and demand. In an alternate world where more women than men desired sex and were pursuing men, the whole narratives around sexual performance will change and recenter around men's pleasure and women's performance Women are too dishonest to even admit this.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 11:26 AM
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What makes men inherently worse in bed than women?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 11:23 AM
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How many times a guy refused your offer to give him head?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 11:18 AM
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Very well said. We need to change the demonizing narrative around porn. Its a symptom not a cause
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 11:14 AM
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Where the hell is the pressure to behave in a pornstaresque way when the shittiest women have 1000 men lined up to fuck?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 11:12 AM
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Women just need to 'like sex' to be good at it Men need to be good-looking, have a hot body, have a big, thick dick that gets very hard on demand, have the ability to stay hard for an hour, great stamina and strength, be experienced and know all the techniques. Just one of the countless bigotries and double standards against men that women celebrate on a daily basis
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 11:11 AM
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The question is why men crave romantic relationships more than women and I explained why. Where the fuck did I say I want women to do something about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 08:04 AM
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So you're blind to the dating dynamics of today?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 04:19 AM
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Whats wrong with acknowledging that men face way more pressure to be good-looking than women to find romantic and sexual relationships? Do you allow men to ease into this reality?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 04:18 AM
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In those times a significant percentage of men died young in wars too and never married or procreated. Marriages in those times were arranged. Why do you automatically assume the average man was married to the love of his life enjoying romantic and sexual fulfillment while simultaneously his wife was repulsed by him? Maybe most men never felt romantic love or sexual fulfillment either. Today, the ugliest women can have sexual fulfillment with hot Chads. https://imgur.com/a/aerFYT0
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 04:11 AM
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How ugly are you? Ugly women get laid left and right. Women don't need to be good looking to have sexual relationships. Men do https://imgur.com/a/aerFYT0
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 04:06 AM
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https://imgur.com/a/aerFYT0
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 04:04 AM
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Is your sister celibate? Has she never had short term flings nor dated men casually?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 03:59 AM
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Well, those guys were hookups and you’re clearly too much of a pussy to admit you want a hookup too So why don't you hookup with all guys you date? Whats the difference? The hookup guys are hotter and physically superior to the one's you date without hooking up? Wtf is the difference?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 03:49 AM
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If you know on the 1st date whether you want to fuck a woman or not, the reverse is also true.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 03:45 AM
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You are still talking about equality and being compatible That ship sailed long ago Women don't want an equal, compatible partner anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 03:43 AM
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Because "single" women aren't exactly single We are comparing apples to oranges. Women can be single and still have an active sex life, still date men casually, do hookups, short term flings, situationships and fuck buddies. They can easily meet their needs for sex, intimacy, male companionship, attention, validation despite being single via various casual connections. Being single for men means celibacy and zero positive interactions with the opposite sex. Until we compare apples to apples - si…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 03:18 AM
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You're agreeing with the fact that men face way more pressure than women to be good-looking in order to have sexual and romantic opportunities.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 03:17 AM
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Because "single" women aren't exactly single We are comparing apples to oranges. Women can be single and still have an active sex life, still date men casually, do hookups, short term flings, situationships and fuck buddies. They can easily meet their needs for sex, intimacy, male companionship, attention, validation despite being single via various casual connections. Being single for men means celibacy and zero positive interactions with the opposite sex. Until we compare apples to apples - si…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 03:16 AM
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Getting married is not the flex for men you think it is, foo We all know you lot consider husbands inferior to your fuck buddies and lovers
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 02:43 AM
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Literally every Gen Z guy is either redpilled or blackpilled. They don't even bother to call it that. Every boy knows the dating market is stacked against them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 02:11 AM
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Women can become miserable pretty easily. New, younger, hotter dick flirts with her at office and she's suddenly "miserable" Hell with them too
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 01:27 AM
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I don't want to be framed as "husband material" or a provider. Women consider husbands inferior to lovers and fuck buddies. Why would I want to be someone inferior?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 01:24 AM
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What does being a good person have to do with women's lust?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 02:17 AM
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Worse to women seeking sexual and romantic relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 11:46 PM
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They aren't fucking the emotionally available, stable men on 2nd dates. They're fucking Chad who's toxic and doesn't give a fuck. Whyats wrong with being honest?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 11:29 PM
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How good looking, tall, and superior are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 11:28 PM
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Absolutely not. Millions of women across US are masturbating to that CEO murderer Luigi because he's hot. The writing is clearly on the wall: If you give an average woman the choice between an average looking, medium height, financially stable, emotionally available man AND a 6'3" Chad who's toxic fuckboy, misogynistic, unstable broke druggie, she will ask "How toxic are we talking about". Looks and height are everything to todays' woman. They will f'n take a homeless druggie home and love and f…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 11:28 PM
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Why is a socially inept man worse than a socially adept murderer?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 11:28 PM
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You don't believe what? That the average woman doesn't have 50 hot guys on dating apps willing to go on a date?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 09:14 PM
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Just asking a simple question.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 08:51 AM
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Why the fuck the vast majority of them or even majority of them get ZERO women hitting on them? Why the fuck do women only hit on conventionally hot men?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 06:55 AM
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If you can't get women on dating apps, you are not physically attractive enough to approach women irl. Its quite simple. Dating apps have raised women's benchmarks for men's looks overall. If you have 50 hot guys messaging you on Hinge and Bumble, you won't take a crap on your average looking male coworker who's asking you out on a date.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 06:14 AM
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What percentage of men are "cute" ?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 06:11 AM
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Then who are the men, women in your surroundings are crushing on, flirting with, hooking up and having flings with? What the fuck do those men look like?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 03:13 AM
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What young person doesn't want to have sex? So why the fuck are you opposed to the idea that young men need to be good-looking to have a sex life, while women dont? That far from the bar being low for men, its actually incredibly high for them, while simultaneously incredibly low for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 12:59 AM
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Being clean is the bare minimum, so yes it does matter. You keep moving goal posts How are unhygienic men with shit stains in their underwears fucking and having relationships with women if they don't even meet the bare minimum? Because they are good looking, tall, and well built?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 12:56 AM
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I'm talking about the bar for looks and physical attraction That is very high for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 12:40 AM
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I'm just asking what kind of men the women in YOUR circles are crushing on, flirting, hooking up and having flings/situation-ships with. Or are you saying women in your circle NEVER have crushes, never flirt, hookup and have flings with men they actually desire and want? Why the fuck are you pigeonholing men into marriage, while you f'n get to enjoy the whole spectrum of life experiences?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 12:38 AM
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Read the comments again. They are talking about looks standards. I'm not lying when I say that there are women and feminists who are pathologically dismissing that men struggle in dating because of looks
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 12:34 AM
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Ok. Then why the fuck do women and feminists utter this mf'n statement to SINGLE men struggling to ATTRACT women in the dating scene?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 04:21 PM
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Correct your language. They have to fight for the opportunity and relentlessly pursue women. Your language insinuates a woman just finds them attractive and fuckable based on looks with no significant effort and pursuit on the man's part. What situation do you have in your brain where a man "steps on his dick" even though a woman is willing to fuck him?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 03:36 PM
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This is what you uttered It is a reflection of the fact that many women experience men who seem completely unable to stop stepping on their own dicks when presented with an opportunity for dating or sex. What the fuck did you mean by presented with an opportunity for sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 02:43 PM
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Most men have sex in long term relationships. They are never approached by women, let along approached by women for casual sex. If they do have casual sex, they just get lucky after relentlessly pursuing women. You are saying something else. You are saying "They are presented with an opportunity to fuck". That only happens to super hot guys Where have you seen women approaching mediocre looking men for casual sex? Describe an example
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 02:27 PM
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Look at the men you and your friends are crushing on and hooking up with. They are all tall, handsome, hot guys
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 11:20 AM
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The unsuccessful man in your description who is too demoralized to emotionally invest in a woman just wants to experience physical attraction and sex first for reassurance and validation. Just like women do with other men. Why is it such an impossible feat?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 11:09 AM
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You also need to meet the benchmarks for looks and physical attraction. That bar is not low.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 10:50 AM
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When we say the same thing, we are dismissed by women and told the low bar also applies to looks. I have had this discussion with women and feminists a million fucking times. They continue to dismiss the bar for looks and physical attraction is high https://imgur.com/a/women-feminists-insisting-that-bar-mens-looks-is-on-floor-dating-world-XeXWPn3
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 10:47 AM
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https://imgur.com/a/women-feminists-insisting-that-bar-mens-looks-is-on-floor-dating-world-XeXWPn3
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 10:46 AM
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Who are the men being presented with the opportunity to get laid? Good looking/hot men? How many mediocre looking guys do you know who were approached by women for sex? I know ZERO in 35 years of my existence.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 10:45 AM
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Its not rocket science. The dead beats, losers, thugs and criminals are good looking and tall. When will women acknowledge this? What is the fucking hold up?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 10:40 AM
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Why are most young women willingly in harems of men just for fucking?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 10:39 AM
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You are looking at boomer married couples of young people in the dating world?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 10:38 AM
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The absolute dirtbags are good looking and tall. The bar for looks is very high. The bar for personality and effort is low.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 10:37 AM
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The unhygienic men with shit stains in their underwear meet women's standards for height, body type, and facial attractiveness. The latter benchmarks are pretty high. Many of us men have better hygiene than most women, we are groomed, healthy, use bidet to wash out asses to, but it doesn't matter in the dating world because we aren't tall, handsome, or well built enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 10:31 AM
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I am not lying to you when I say that this phrase is thrown at single men struggling to attract women in the dating scene. Just look at these examples https://imgur.com/a/women-feminists-insisting-that-bar-mens-looks-is-on-floor-dating-world-XeXWPn3
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 11:20 PM
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Why can't women have consistent standards for casual sex and relationships? Why are you casual sex standards so much higher?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 11:14 PM
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I have had the debate with women and feminists a million times. They keep insisting the standards for men's looks are on the ground and all they need to be is decent humans to attract women Here are some examples https://imgur.com/a/XeXWPn3
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 11:58 AM
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On every women'/feminist group, forum on reddit and facebook, they are pathologically denying that men struggle in dating because of looks and height benchmarks and claim the bar is very low for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 11:29 AM
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Every man here will confirm that the statement is ALSO commonly thrown at SINGLE men struggling to attract women in the dating world. Why? Go date whoever the f*** you want. Why are you telling men that the looks benchmarks they have to meet are on the ground?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 11:19 AM
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We already understand that being a nice guy and a functioning adult aren't sufficient for sexual and romantic attraction. There is a bar for looks and physical attraction and that tends to be pretty high. Why the fuck do women throw this statement at SINGLE men in the dating world struggling with meeting the looks and physical attraction benchmarks of women?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 11:03 AM
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It is thrown at SINGLE men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 10:58 AM
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Then why the f*** is the statement thrown at SINGLE men who are struggling to ATTRACT women in the dating world?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 10:47 AM
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But thats what women say all the time: She made "mistakes" before, but now wants an equal, caring partner in you
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 10:17 AM
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So you're saying its a good thing if a woman is broke rules for other men, but not me?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 10:11 AM
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How do that subset of women (who seem to be around 70% of young women btw) rationalize dating the homely dull guy after fucking Chads on 1st dates?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 10:10 AM
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The bar for good looks is much higher for casual, so men who aren't super good looking can't be honest about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 10:08 AM
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How good looking are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 10:06 AM
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True. Husband material is inferior in women's eyes
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 10:05 AM
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Talk about dating, not married couples. Its not that hard to see the difference
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 10:03 AM
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What choice do we have when a hookup/FWB styled relationship has become the litmus test of a woman's attraction towards us? It is a value system you women created. You casually fuck the guys you are actually attracted to on 1st or 2nd date, and become their fuck buddies to see where things go. You f'n lie to men you're not truly attracted you that only have sex in long term committed relationships and need a mf'n emotional bond first. Tell me again, what the fuck are we supposed to do? How can w…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 02:16 AM
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Once again the man's looks and attractiveness is important
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 03:56 PM
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Why is 2 such a hierarchical, rare, extreme thing for you? Why can't you feel lust for average men like men can feel lust for average women?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 02:08 AM
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Who the fuck is concerned about the intentions of non-Chad men? I'm saying non-Chad men don't get casual sex because women are more shallow and elitist about looks than men. wtf do you disagree with?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 04:34 AM
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What do you look like?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 02:08 AM
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Do you know how to open a fucking dating app? If yes, open Tinder, use 2 pictures of an ugly obese girl and mention "looking for hookups". Wait 2 days and see 1000s of decent looking, tall, fit young men willing to fuck. I see that this experiment lights firecrackers up women's behinds. Any reason?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 02:03 AM
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https://imgur.com/a/men-have-lower-standards-than-relationships-which-confuses-women-GhFJSUE
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 01:59 AM
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There are 2 options: An average looking medium height guy willing to court you, commit to you from the beginning with intent of marriage. And A hot Chad who wants to "just hookup and see where things go" The vast majority of women including yourself will prefer the latter option Its literally the number 1 dating lament of women today that hot guys / Chads way above their leagues are not committing to them and only want to keep fucking https://imgur.com/a/men-have-lower-standards-than-relationshi…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 01:58 AM
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Most young women nowadays ARE hooking up, doing situationships, and fuck buddy stuff with super good looking top tier looking guys. They much prefer being fuck buddies with super hot guys than date average looking men or men in their own league who are willing to committ to them and date them properly
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 01:38 PM
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Why are you talking like a snarky child? Wtf do you think about what these women are saying? <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 11:13 AM
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Hot men who have absolute contempt for the sluts they bang have women lined to to fuck them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 10:33 AM
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Because any mediocre, below average looking women can have sex with male models, gym trainers, super hot athlete guys. But she can only marry men in her own leauge. Why are you so dishonest about this?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 10:32 AM
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Trying to get an honest answer from this gender on this question? Answer: Because women's casual sex partners are way more physically and sexually attractive than the men they mf'n "settle down" with. Its the opposite for women Inb4 the 4 women on Reddit come here and say go against this rule
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 10:30 AM
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Its gender politics Women's unwillingness to concede that men can have it worse in an aspect of life.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 01:32 AM
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How is that a bad thing for women who are single and have casual sex, flings, hookups, FWB, and booty calls?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 07:59 AM
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This is exactly the look that Caucasian women want these days
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 05:56 AM
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Women who have casual sex don't care how the hot men they have sex with view them. Both are using each others for their bodies and genitalia. Its a fair exchange.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 05:13 AM
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Again, you are just projecting your own personal preference for no casual sex onto every woman. Surveys show that way more SINGLE women than single men are having sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 05:12 AM
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Most women here say they like casual sex and see nothing wrong with it. Casual sex, hookups, flings, FWB, booty calls are important strategies for most single women nowadays. You sound very dishonest for claiming none of it matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 05:06 AM
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So give me a simple answer. Why mediocre looking guys get zero matches on Tinder, but the ugliest of women get 100 offers to fuck per week?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 04:50 AM
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Message replies mean nothing. I get around 4 matches a month on Tinder. They do respond with hi, but it doesnt lead anywhere. I created an obese, middle aged, short, pudgy faced woman's profile. She got 1000+ likes, and 100+ messages with phone numbers willing to meet up. Men who responded to 40% women were ALL willing to meet up. They were all attracted to those women. Imagine messaging 10 guys and 4 agree to meet up in no time Imagine messaging 100 women, 50 respond with hi, but ZERO agree to …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 04:48 AM
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If you make a Tinder profile of an obese, middle aged, short as a midget, facially below average looking woman, you will get 1000+ likes and 100+ offers to fuck within a week. I myself did the experiment multiple times. I was shocked to see how easily ugly women can get fucked by decent looking young men An average looking man gets next to zero likes and matches in the same time period.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 04:43 AM
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Women lie about body count and casual sex. 1 really good looking guy can have 20 women on his roster. He can fuck multiple women per week from this roster. The 20 women just have him as the fuck buddy / booty call. Women just need a super good looking man they can fuck once a month.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 04:40 AM
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Chad treatment is simply getting casual sex, doesn't matter with traditional women or promiscuous women. Promiscuous women in West also only have casual sex with Chads (regardless of their own looks)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 04:32 AM
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It is less severe than your hypocrisy as a pink pill woman. You fuck super hot guys on 1st dates, be their fuck buddies, yet you require normal looking men to court you, emotionally invest in you, and prove themselves before even letting them touch you
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 04:30 AM
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50-60% of men meet appearance standards for dating. The rest are settled for beta buxxers 15-20% of men meet appearance standards for casual sex, hookups, FWB
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 04:25 AM
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Yes, Chad can get casual sex as easily as mediocre looking women
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 04:17 AM
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Why is casual sex 'Chad treatment' ?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 04:16 AM
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So why is casual sex in the West only for Chad, but women don't even need to be good looking to be as hedonsitc as they want? Whats causing the imbalance?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 04:15 AM
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No woman is "pure lust and desire," we all have reason and we all make choices You make the choice to have quick easy casual sex with guys who look like Chads. You are just hung up on semantics
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 04:12 AM
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Who the fuck are the guys women are themselves pursuing sexually? Who are the guys who have tons of Tinder matches, roster of dozens of fuck buddies? They are all Chads. Men need to be exceptionally good looking to have easy casual sex. Women don't
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 04:10 AM
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Its quite telling that you frame sex on 1st date or casual sex in general as "women tolerating anything from Chads'
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 04:07 AM
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Women consider 80% of men physically unattractive. Do they hate men?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 04:05 AM
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You must be good looking and tall then
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 04:05 AM
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How does having options explain hypergamy? Average looking women in US don't want casual sex with average looking men
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 04:04 AM
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Fair enough. Does it mean you only date conventionally good looking/hot guys to begin with?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 04:04 AM
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But can there be a situation where the guy you intended to date for long term is not that good-looking/hot, so the only reason you are going on dates with him is to evaluate him if he can be a good long term partner. You thought he seems disciplined, has his shit together, stable, friendly, kind etc, but he's not that good looking/hot. And now that he has clarified he just wants to hookup, there's no point in hooking up with him because he's not hot enough for free sex
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 03:46 AM
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3. she's still a sexual being, so while she works on securing your commitment, she has sex with guys she doesn't value as a serious romantic prospect (guys say all the time that there are women you just have sex with and women you have a relationship with; guess what - it's exactly the same for women!) In this scenario, why are the guys she's still having sex with casually way better looking/hotter than the relationship prospect? Why do they tower over the relationship prospect in looks, physiqu…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 03:29 AM
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So lets say you intended to date the guy, but he communicates that he just wants to hookup. There's no ambiguity now. Would you hookup with him?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 03:24 AM
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The problem is that questions like these put women on the defensive. 130,000 people follow this sub. The women who do operate the "hierarchy" will simply not respond to avoid unfavorable reception. The handful of women who don't, who are rare exceptions like you, will. Irl, the hierarchy is just too pervasive. We see it daily. We have lifelong experiences and observations that prove it. We have been personally told by women we dated that we a were not good-looking/hot enough for hooking up, but …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 02:44 AM
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There are average and below average looking men too in this world. Not every man is a good looking, hot, and tall. I understand your worldview is based on hot guys Average and below average looking men are routinely told by women that they want to take things slower sexually with them, because they are not good-looking/hot enough for "lets just hookup and see where things go" approach
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 05:39 AM
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Lets say your fiancé told you on the 1st date he didn't want anything serious and just wants to hook up / be FWB Would you have put him in the "I just want to fuck him / fuck him + spend some time with him" category?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 05:22 AM
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Is 'building the rapport' and trust less of a concern if the guy is really good-looking/hot? How does a man's good-looks and hotness figure into this? Were the one night stands better looking than the guys you require rapport and trust with?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 05:16 AM
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I see your point about the backlog. I think you are a picky guy. And yet, I have seen many super good looking guy friends and acquaintances have a roster full of below average looking girls and even older dumpy looking women for the reason I mentioned. I have also done Tinder experiments multiple times using pictures of middled aged, very overweight, facially unappealing women and they got offers to fuck from young 20 something fit looking guys who were solid 7s and 8s.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 04:22 AM
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Brother, you're 6'4", athletic, facially good looking, and White. If you think women waiting 3 months with a guy is outlandish, you need to observe more. For average and below average looking men, this is normal. Just ask women on this very thread and many of them will tell you they waited 3 to 6 months with many men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 04:19 AM
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Do you think "comfort level" is less of a concern if the guy is really good-looking/hot ?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 04:10 AM
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We don't. We only date women we are attracted to and know we want to have sex with. If we don't know already, we certainly know after the end of 1st date if we want to have sex with her or not. Why is it different for you? Can you give examples why you fucked some guys quickly but waited with others? What was different about the men in terms of looks, hotness, and social presence/value? Like, do you operate a hierarchical system whereby the hotter, better looking the guy the earlier you have sex…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 04:09 AM
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Because men are not Machiavellian about sex and they are either attracted to a woman or they're not? They don't operate a motherf***n attractiveness hierarchy whereby they desire sex with hot women earlier and average looking ones much later. Because a man's decision to have sex with a woman he's already dating will only depend on his value system and never on how he RANKS her?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 04:01 AM
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I'm not talking about miniscule difference. Date 1 & 2 would be interchangeable. I'm talking about significant difference of not only time, number of dates, but also conditions. Example: Fucking guy 1 on the 1st or 2nd date w/o any condition Fucking guy 2 on the 6th date, 3 months into the relationship AFTER both have decided to be exclusive and he has proven his willingness to commit.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 03:58 AM
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Can you think of reasons why you wouldn't want to have sex with a guy you've been on a couple of dates with, he wants it, AND you also plan to see him again?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 03:54 AM
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How does a man's looks and hotness play into this? Is "comfort" less of a consideration with a really hot guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 03:52 AM
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You've never fucked a guy early that you were interested in for a relationship also?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 03:50 AM
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Why didn't you want to fuck your fiance AND spend time with him? Is he physically and sexually inferior to the men you just wanted to fuck AND spend time with? In what ways did he lack? Lets say on the 2nd date before you guys became exclusive, he just suggested you guys hookup. What would've been your reaction/calculation at that time? That he was not hot enough to waste a body count on?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 03:48 AM
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Whats your age, height, body type, and let me know if its possible to see your pic in dm's. To your question, why these kind of men casually fuck 3s and 4s: To use your example, If you can get 1 or 2 girls attractive girls willing to fuck per week on the weekend, you might still have a higher sex drive and want to fuck on weekdays too and at hours of your convenience. This is where unattractive / below average out of shape obscure booty call / fuck buddy girls come into the picture. Every good l…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 03:38 AM
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Because more often than not, the woman does frame the man as physically and sexually inferior to the men she fucked in the past upfront. Note: My original question is more nuanced. Its about women who fuck some relationship prospects quickly but make other relationship prospects wait
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 03:30 AM
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You generally don't. What were the exceptions?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 03:19 AM
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Men never had a problem with moving a slower pace. We only have a problem with women who want to move at a slower pace with us but not with others because they frame us as inferior
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 03:18 AM
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So what was the point of your sermon about "boundaries" and "letting guys treat you badly"? Why are you framing "fucking on 1st date" as lack of boundaries and letting guys treat you badly when you fucked your guy on 1st date and it did turn into a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 03:16 AM
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Were these men physically unattractive? I can't imagine attractive guys being in non sexual romantic relationships when they can get laid elsewhere. Only unattractive, dorky men with a certain political leaning might sign up for this
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 03:07 AM
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Thanks for the response. Is it possible to see examples of guys you'd consider 3s and 4s and also the 5s and 6s?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 03:05 AM
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Why does it matter what he communicates? He could also say he likes you but is unsure at the moment so lets just hookup and see where things go? Will it make you immediately disqualify him?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 03:03 AM
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They like having sex, but they have super good looking fuck buddies for that. They usually don't need to meet their sexual needs via a long term relationship prospect unless of course, he's super good looking too.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 03:01 AM
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i already clarified that the question is for women who still have casual sex and hookup with some guys including ones they are interested in for relationships. Not women like you who have had their fun with hot guys and are bummed now because none of them wanted to commit.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 02:59 AM
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Why do you think so many women in the comments are so calculating about it and have this tendency to wait with some men but not others, even though they are going on dates with them?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 02:54 AM
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Ok, so the next question would be what could be the reasons you wouldn't want to have sex with a guy you've been on a couple of dates with AND also plan to see him again?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 02:52 AM
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What are the determinants? How is it tied to how good-looking/hot the guy is? Can you walk through 2 examples, one where you waited for a much longer time and another where you didn't?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 02:50 AM
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So in other words there won't by a situation in the future where you'd have to wait for more than a couple of dates before having sex with a guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 02:49 AM
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I think he's just referring to your upper hand and privilege in sexual relationships. You can ask the question what a man is doing for me in bed, but assume that your presence and willingness is sufficient. Which is true, sadly. You have so much leverage in the dating/sexual context that you can have that attitude
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 02:47 AM
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Why can't you ALSO hookup wit the 2nd person? He's not as hot but he's still acceptable in looks. Like why is the hookup something that you'd only do with a super hot elite group of men? Men also date average and below average looking women. Its not like all women are hot. Do you ever hear men say they were not initially attracted to their average looking gf's and didn't want to have sex with them until 6 months?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 09:29 AM
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Do they tell you explicitly or imply it? Give me a few examples
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/24 07:01 PM
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How is it "settling in the looks department" if they're just marrying their looks-matches?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/24 02:15 AM
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Then why do they say their husbands and long term partners are not even good enough to have casual sex with?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/24 12:50 AM
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It goes without saying that average and below average looking women can casually fuck male model types but not get commitment from them. In college, girls who were 3s and 4s were easily fucking the hottest guys on campus. Whats the big f'n deal about it? Its not like you women need to be good looking to have casual sex with men way above your leagues
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 10:36 PM
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Thats not even a relevant question here They are saying the men they ended up dating seriously or married to were not attractive/good enough for casual sex. Why aren't you addressing that weird phenomenon?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 10:34 PM
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Which means women do value, desire, admire their fuck buddies and booty calls more than their husbands and long term partners
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 09:57 PM
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Just read the responses of these mf'n women. https://imgur.com/a/womens-casual-partners-are-way-more-physically-attractive-than-long-term-partners-men-need-to-be-extremely-good-looking-order-to-have-casual-TViyiCJ
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 09:38 PM
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I'm saying men need to be conventionally good-looking to do hookups and casual sex. Women don't
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 09:36 PM
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Ok. So you only seriously date hot guys. It seems that women who seriously date average looking guys obviously wont casually fuck hotter ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 09:08 AM
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What exactly is his drill to turn you on?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 09:02 AM
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I wouldn't underestimate the duality of women https://imgur.com/a/womens-casual-partners-are-way-more-physically-attractive-than-long-term-partners-men-need-to-be-extremely-good-looking-order-to-have-casual-TViyiCJ
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 08:57 AM
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Why is it way harder for majority of men to be the casual sex guy than be the long term relationship guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 08:45 AM
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So you only date and hookup with conventionally good looking / hot men. Women who seriously date average looking men, don't hookup with average looking men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 08:41 AM
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If you were more attracted to him you would just "hookup and see where things go". You wouldn't pass up the near term opportunity to be physically intimate with a guy you really desire. You would only delay sex if the guy is not that hot/sexy but you still consider him a catch in the long term context based on redeeming qualities. He is sexually/physically inferior. Countless men are told the same thing by women they're dating: That they are good potential long term partners, but not hot enough …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 08:33 AM
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Wtf would you say about these? https://imgur.com/gallery/men-have-lower-standards-casual-than-women-E8beWCr https://imgur.com/a/absence-of-low-physical-attraction-men-were-more-willing-to-have-casual-than-women-iA1Gbig https://imgur.com/a/interest-casual-raises-womens-standards-partners-looks-lowers-mens-vwVVG9q Studies like these tend to light firecrackers up women's behinds who deny that women don't need to be attractive to get casually fucked by men way above their leagues
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 08:28 AM
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Created a Tinder profile of a middle aged obese facially below average looking woman. Had 1000+ likes, 100+ matches, and 30 guys willing to fuck who gave out their phone numbers within 3 days. All were young, above average looking, fit men. How fucking easier do you women want it to be?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 08:25 AM
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Whatever the fuck it is, different species, evolutionary psych, hypergamy, blackpill.. it is not mfn accepted by woman's side and feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 08:23 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 08:20 AM
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And Suzi will just start hooking up with hot young guys the day after breaking up with him. Looks and youth are so important as a man. The window is so small for men. Women can be below average, obese, middle/retirement aged, midgets and still get constant casual sex with college dudes. Its crazy
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 08:17 AM
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For most women, the purpose of hookup/fwb/casual sex is to get with super good looking men they otherwise wouldn't be able to date seriously or marry.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 08:14 AM
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Do you have casual sex with men in your league looks wise or men way above yours? Wth would you say about these women? https://imgur.com/a/womens-casual-partners-are-way-more-physically-attractive-than-long-term-partners-men-need-to-be-extremely-good-looking-order-to-have-casual-TViyiCJ
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 08:13 AM
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Its not wrong. It is only problematic because of the value/hierarchical system of sex that most women operate. The less attractive the guy, the more time, effort, investment she needs before having sex
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 08:12 AM
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I have over the years, asked the casual sex vs relationship looks benchmark question to 1000s of women online and irl, and 90% of them agree the benchmark for the hookup guy is way higher. He is superior in a way their long term partners arent'. Just read these response from women https://imgur.com/a/womens-casual-partners-are-way-more-physically-attractive-than-long-term-partners-men-need-to-be-extremely-good-looking-order-to-have-casual-TViyiCJ I think you're overthinking and possibly being di…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 08:00 AM
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Countless men including myself have been told by women we date that "you're not attractive enough for hookup/FWB".
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 07:44 AM
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Read this https://imgur.com/a/womens-casual-partners-are-way-more-physically-attractive-than-long-term-partners-men-need-to-be-extremely-good-looking-order-to-have-casual-TViyiCJ
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 07:41 AM
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Women don't need to be good looking to be casually fuckable
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 10:11 AM
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So when you're very physically attracted to a guy and you try to date him, do you also try to delay sex with him so you judgement is not clouded and you want sex with him to be more meaningful? Or do you still have sex with him as usual? A lot of women bullshit that they don't hookup with the long term guy because of those reasons
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 10:10 AM
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Men face way higher barriers for looks. The ugliest of women can get laid left and right.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 10:04 AM
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Most guys are not getting hookups. Only 7s and above get hookups. The rest have to date with serious intentions from the start or else they don't get laid
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 10:00 AM
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What the F would you have to say about this then? https://imgur.com/a/womens-casual-partners-are-way-more-physically-attractive-than-long-term-partners-men-need-to-be-extremely-good-looking-order-to-have-casual-TViyiCJ
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 09:56 AM
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Some women bullshit about being demisexual or needing an emotional connection bullshit before opening their legs. If a woman has been getting fucked by Chads without the emotional component, at least the unsexy husband can know she is mf'ing lying about the emotional connection bs part or being demisexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 09:00 AM
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You don't need to be a porn actress to get laid casually. Men do need to look like male models to have casual sex with average women like you. Do you fucking see the difference?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 08:58 AM
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Her opinion is literally how majority of women think about this https://imgur.com/a/womens-casual-partners-are-way-more-physically-attractive-than-long-term-partners-men-need-to-be-extremely-good-looking-order-to-have-casual-TViyiCJ
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 08:54 AM
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This is obviously extremely cringy and hard to read as a man. It is our worst nightmare to be the husband in this situation. May I know what does he need to do to turn you on?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 08:42 AM
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Men aren't told by society that women are extremely shallow and elitist about looks and physical attraction that they only find few men sexy and exciting. That idea is considered misogynistic. We tend to project our own tendency to find mediocre women sexy and exciting onto women, hoping and thinking that women too find ordinary men sexy. When we try to dispel those myths and try to bring the concept of hypergamy and women's elitism we are branded as incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 08:34 AM
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So why weren't your long term / serious partners fucking women hotter than you when they were single? Why do they only get to watch porn, while you get to actually fuck men way hotter than them? Whats the difference between you and them?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 08:30 AM
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Women don't need to be good looking to have casual sex with male model types. Even below average obese girls casually fuck male models types and athletes these days. Thats an amazing benefit for you
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 08:28 AM
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I don't think we overthink it because countless men are able to have long term relationships but are completely shut off in the hookup world How would you explain countless men who have been explicitly told by women they were dating that they are not attractive enough for hookups and FWB?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 08:26 AM
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Dont be an idiot. Men don't do the same thing. Men would also casually hookup with the women they end up marrying. Women cannot always say that about the men they marry
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 08:23 AM
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You and ugly women casually hookup with the same hot men. You end up marrying hot men. Ugly women end up marrying ugly men they wouldnt have crapped upon for casual sex and FWB
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 08:21 AM
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How the f would you explain why countless men are able to have long term relationships but are completely shut off in the hookup world? How the f would you explain countless men who have been explicitly told by women they were dating that they are not attractive enough for hookups and FWB?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 08:20 AM
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How the f would you explain why countless men are able to have long term relationships but are completely shut off in the hookup world? How the f would you explain countless men who have been explicitly told by women they were dating that they are not attractive enough for hookups and FWB?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 08:19 AM
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If you're a Becky-esque woman you can still casually fuck male models, however for marriage most likely you'd have to settle for a compatible looks-matched guy you wouldn't have crapped upon for hookups and FWB. Is this not true?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 08:17 AM
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How do you know average looking men are getting casual sex, ONS, hookups, and fwb? Where do you see these men?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 12:04 PM
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Try to be a little more aware of your surroundings. Above average looking men are having sex. Average and below average looking men (A good 50-60%) are not having casual sex. They can still only get laid in relationships. Also, ugly, awkward women get laid with decent looking men all the time. Try to be a little aware of your privilege as a woman without punching down on men. It won't hurt you. Paid sex is very frustrating and expensive
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 11:06 AM
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Yes. Most single women have active sex lives. Most single men don't
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 06:31 AM
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Most single women have active sex lives. Most single men don't. Why do you think there's a gap?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 06:30 AM
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Its not an entitlement, but why do feel happy about the fact that men have it immensely harder? Why do you enjoy punching down on men for this?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 06:29 AM
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They hate men so much they will not acknowledge this disparity
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 06:26 AM
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Single women are having sex. Most single men are not because of the good looks barrier. How can you not see this?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 06:26 AM
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They don't find many men physically attractive enough for casual sex. Doesn't matter how safe and non judgemental the world is. Women are immensely more shallow and elitist about looks
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 06:24 AM
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Let me guess, these men are attractive and can casually date, hookup and have fwb?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 06:21 AM
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Because women are rarely single Being single means nothing for women. Despite being "single" women still date casually, hookup, have short term flings, and have fwb to meet their needs for sex, intimacy, validation, and companionship.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 06:20 AM
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Neither do the vast majority of men who hate women. The men who harm women irl are not misogynists, redpillers, or manosphere guys
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 06:17 AM
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These women do have sex with hot men
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 06:16 AM
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Does he need to be hotter than long term prospects? Like is the minimum looks threshold for casual sex higher than that for long term prospects?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 12:08 AM
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The real "problem" is that women are inherently way more shallow, selective, elitist, and find very few men physically attractive. Women STILL make the first move, just on super hot men. Please understand this
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 12:04 AM
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Yes, and we're saying that in order for women to WANT to have sex, the man needs to be hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 12:09 PM
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so it must be really easy to be the guy who is acceptable for casual sex, right? Do you have advice on how a man can make himself acceptable for casual sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 10:29 AM
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Why do you gatekeep sex from one type but not the other?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 10:27 AM
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just get real. Every woman in her late 20s has had dozens of partners by then and have zero problems getting in and out of relationships. You literally are privileged and have won
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 01:47 AM
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But why? Why can't you be happy about your privilege without punching down on men?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 11:31 PM
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Why can't you accept the truth without being bigoted?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 11:30 PM
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Why do you seek social acceptance for having casual sex, hooking up, and being FWB with super hot men?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 11:28 PM
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How am I privileged? Give examples
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 11:27 PM
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What do you want men to do? Why can't we even acknowledge this reality?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 11:27 PM
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Those middle range guys can't remain celibate while you fuck around with super hot guys. Men also want to have no strings sex like you do
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 11:26 PM
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If he's mediocre in looks you weren't going to hook up with him ever, so what difference does it make to your perception?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 09:10 AM
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FWB are prevalent among women. Nearly every woman who's single for a considerable time has FWB's
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 09:09 AM
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You're already not interested in dating and hooking up with below average looking men. What difference does it make to eithers life?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 09:08 AM
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Visit any red light street in a big city in US. The hookers are all hot
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 09:02 AM
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I absolutely respect him for doing that. I have done the same over the years: Trying to normalize paid sex and equate it to dating, clubbing, hooking up, dating apps usage by women and hot men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 09:01 AM
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Just calling it "Self improvement" would gloss over the fact that women are incredibly more shallow, selective, and elitist about men's looks and who they find physically attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 08:51 AM
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below average looking women do not want below average looking men. Stop being dishonest
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 08:50 AM
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Does that make you happy that men are losing and inferior to you? That they face this crumbling pressure to be good looking?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 08:47 AM
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Having had a boyfriend before and having had 15 hot fuck-buddies and situationships are different things
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 08:46 AM
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How have they only slightly turned in women's favor when an average looking woman has 1000x more options than an average looking man? You are not oppressed and the men of today are not your oppressors. How the ancestors lived has no relevance to people alive today.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 08:45 AM
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Casual sex is not just drunken one night stands. There are a variety of experiences between ONS and marriage. Casually dating, short term flings, hookups, FWB, situation-ships. Women can do all of these with utmost ease despite being bottom of the barrel, but men need to be good-looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 08:42 AM
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You can't redpill theory your way into being hot. What you can do is look at where you are and either be content, improve where you can, or continue being toxic and weird. Why are you pigeonholing men into being the stable, loyal, long term relationship guy who isn't attractive enough for casual sex? Why are you encouraging men to be happy with an inferior role and an inferior position vis a vis women in relationships? There are no easy answers to this conundrum men face. We are all struggling t…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 08:40 AM
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AF/BB is true because women do not casually fuck average looking men. Men do fuck average, below average, and ugly women casually all the time
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 08:29 AM
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I hope you're being honest, and if so that's fine. I'm addressing women who say their boyfriends and husbands wouldn't make the superior benchmark for FWB.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 06:48 AM
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Do you consider your fwb's to be 'fuckbois' that you look down upon? Are they bad people? Why do you have different standards and aspirations for your own sex lives and men's? Like why are you being patronizing and pigeonholing men into relationship sex only? Why are you unable to explain the reason? If husband material men are great and more valued than fwb, and relationship sex is better than casual sex and FWB, it follows that it must be easier to get casual sex/fwb than sex in a relationship…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 02:29 AM
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Then why are you personally enjoying casual/fwb sex and don't get into a relationship just to have a sex life?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 02:24 AM
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What is the tldr of the study? A study makes 100s of points. What point do you want me to focus?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 02:19 AM
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If you're not interested in casual sex, you're not interested in casual sex with any man, and the question doesn't even apply to you. Correct?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 02:17 AM
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This makes no sense and I have never heard of this logic before. If you dont want a future with them, what effort do you need from them and why? Normally the FWB has to put in way less time, energy, emotions and effort that the long term guy. Way less.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 09:48 AM
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How will your long term boyfriend / husband feel if you told him he is not attractive enough for FWB?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 09:11 AM
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You just said you have higher standards for casual sex, meaning the FWB has to meet a more exclusive/elitist bar for physical attraction. He is special. He is privileged. He gets to enjoy sex with you without putting in any of the time, effort, and emotions your husband / long term partner needs to put in. In your mind, the FWB is so superior of a specimen that you are willing to bypass all the requirements for him that the long term guy/husband needs to fulfill.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 09:07 AM
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Nope. Not bullshit. Literally, some dudes are himbos and other dudes are for long-term relationships. I'm trying to be very reasonable here, and explaining you the 8th grade mathematical concept of sets. I'm only asking, why are the dudes who are for long term, not acceptable for casual sex? What quality do they lack?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 08:12 AM
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Can you explain if 'husband material' men are so great and mean more to women, why can't get casual sex and FWB?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 07:13 AM
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Can you explain if 'husband material' men are so great and mean more to women, why can't get casual sex and FWB?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 07:13 AM
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Women are are 3s do no hook up with men who are 3s. They hookup with men who are 7+ I think this is pretty common knowledge
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 07:03 AM
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What did she specifically say?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 07:02 AM
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I just read your other response, and you believe in the fair world hypothesis. A world where everyone is attractive to someone, and no one is objectively more attractive than another.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 06:58 AM
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Tell me then, why are the vast majority of men unable to get casual sex and FWB? Why is getting into a relationship the only way they can have a sex life?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 06:56 AM
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Idk it's probably similar to how dudes approach it. Some guys you just want sex with. Some guys you want relationships with. NO. That is bullshit The women we want relationships with are also fully acceptable for casual sex and FWB. The men YOU want relationships with are not Are you capable of seeing the difference?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 06:52 AM
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The reason could be that your standards are very high in general. IF you only date guys who are 8s, its hard to go above that for FWB. You might be conventionally good looking, but think about it from an average, below average looking, or conventionally unattractive woman's perspective. (I understand you could be a bit bigoted about it and believe all women are ho/gorgeous as the new age mantra says, but bear with this outlandish notion for a second). A girl whos a 3/10 in looks would mostly lik…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 06:49 AM
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Our lifelong observation and experience is more along the lines of these women's responses https://imgur.com/a/TViyiCJ Its great that you're consistent and don't operate a hierarchical system the vastt majority of women operate
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 06:43 AM
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It is absolutely not. Not for men, nor women. Like how can you be so naive? Let me give you an example from a woman's pov just so it might be easier for you to understand. A below average, mediocre, or ugly girl can have casual sex with super hot guys. Do you think she can get relationships with them?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 06:42 AM
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Did that man meet the benchmark for casual sex /FWB or did you have to GROW INTO HIM ?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 06:40 AM
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My past FWB had mad physical chemistry with me, but he was absolutely not boyfriend material You still don't get it. The sex with you boyfriend is dependent upon the emotional connection. His physicality and looks are not good enough to make the sex worthwhile without it. Its exactly what I mentioned: He is confined to sex in a relationship. Sex that has conditions. Your boyfriend is inferior because in order to enjoy the sex that you do now, he has to spend a disproportionate amount of time, ef…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 06:39 AM
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So your hookups were superior physically and sexually to your long term partners. What do you disagree with? Did all your long term partners made the cut for carefree casual sex that goes nowhere?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 06:06 AM
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If they have no game, confidence, why/how the hell are they able to date women for long term and get into relationships? Which brings us to my original claim that the looks/charm/confidence benchmark for casual sex is way higher. These same women who a guy is able to date for long term actually despise him in a casual/short term context.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 06:04 AM
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I, like most mediocre and below average looking men are pigeonholed into the long term relationship prospect category. We only 'attract' women who want to settle down. Sex only happens when we prove ourselves to them, prove our willingness to invest time, emotions, effort into them, and when our goals are aligned with them. We go on interview style dates. Sex happens a few months into the process. To your point "Just lower your standards and have sex with ugly women", our standards are already l…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 05:59 AM
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No. Sex enters the equation at different times with different men. With hot guys, it happens on 1st or 2nd date and is no strings When a woman dates a mediocre looking man who is a suitable long term / marriage prospect, sex only happens after he proves his willingness to emotionally invest and commit to her. He has to win her over through his actions. He goes through a vetting process because he is INFERIOR.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 05:54 AM
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A woman who only dates 9s can't go higher for FWB/casual sex An average looking woman who dates 5s and 6s, will do casual sex/FWB with 8s and 9s Does that make sense? Not every woman can date / marry male models. Most women can f*ck them
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 05:50 AM
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Thats because your standards for looks are just very high overall, and you only have casual sex and relationships with conventionally hot men. Do you realize that there are average and below average looking women as well who will eventually have relationships with their looks matches but for casual sex they exclusively want men way above their leagues.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 05:47 AM
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As a mid woman you can still have casual sex with guys who are 3 points above you. Obviously you wouldn't want casual sex with mid men How/why does that not provide you enough validation as a sexual being?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 05:41 AM
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He's asking if you seek men who are above your league looks wise
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 05:40 AM
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If your looks standards for relationships are super high, you can't go higher than that for FWB. If you only date 8s and 9s, naturally they would fit FWB criteria too. But understand there are all kinds of women. Women who are average and below average in looks, who will eventually have relationships with their looks-matches. The 3s, 4s, 5s, 6s, and 7s, will seriously date and marry 3s, 4s, 5s, and 6s. But you know and I know they sure as hell wont do FWB with sub 8 men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 05:37 AM
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What do you think about the replies of the women in the link I shared?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 08:41 AM
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Are you saying you never had casual sex before him? And if you did, would your current partner meet the superior looks benchmark for it?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 08:32 AM
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Go ahead
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 08:22 AM
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I am asking about women's requirements for men's looks for casual/FWB vs long term relationships. Are you on the same page?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 07:52 AM
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What do you think about these women? https://imgur.com/a/TViyiCJ
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 07:44 AM
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Most women are counter intuitive and think the opposite. See women's responses to the question of looks standards for FWB vs long term https://imgur.com/a/TViyiCJ
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 07:37 AM
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Seems so from a woman's perspective
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 07:23 AM
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Yeah sounds very cringey
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 04:50 AM
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I'm interested in that statement further. Can you elaborate if you dont mind?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 01:01 AM
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To have/enjoy casual sex, men need to be conventionally good looking. Women don't. Men who aren't conventionally good looking only get lucky once in a blue moon under the influence of alcohol. Not sure what you mean by going out of their way.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 01:00 AM
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Married men get more sex of a deeper nature than unmarried dudes. Do you imply that women don't need to be married to get sex of a deeper nature?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 12:55 AM
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Why were these men not able to have a lot of sexual partners, as you did?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 12:53 AM
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The assumption is he did but wasn't able to. Most men are limited by their looks in how much sex they have in life
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 12:52 AM
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If he were, he would have gotten laid casually a lot as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 12:35 AM
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So he's not your physical type, or the kind of guy you used to casually hookup / do FWB with?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 11:29 PM
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They still have visceral attraction to other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 11:28 PM
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He was not hot enough to be a F-buddy in other words
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 11:27 PM
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What difference does it make to a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 09:19 AM
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Upper 50% is where you can get lucky once in a blue moon. Not the frequency or certainty that would make it worthwhile being single. Top 20% is where you can start experiencing some equality with women. The other problem is every woman has a price in terms of a man's looks. The women who claim not to like casual flings just need even hotter men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 09:18 AM
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I just find it a bit hypocritical for women who casually date have FWB to proudly say they're happier being single than men. And there are plenty of those women, lets be honest
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 09:13 AM
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Right, and getting lucky once in a blue moon after putting in immense effort, is what makes men rush to enter a relationship so theres some certainty in having sex and validation.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 08:48 AM
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It is common sense. Below average looking, short, obese women can get on dating apps and have 100s of offers from good looking guys to get laid within a few days. Why are you so ignorant about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 08:46 AM
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Women don't need to be good looking to partake in casual dating and hookups. Men do. What part of it is hard to understand?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 07:56 AM
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12% of new relationships start on online dating apps <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 03:53 PM
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Personality is very important to them, but much less important than looks. Which means if a man is very good looking, most women are willing to overlook severe personality flaws and date/love/fuck him regardless. Also, they want that great personality in men who meet an ever increasing standard for good looks. It used to be that they would tradeoff at average looks or lower, but not anymore. Personality can also be faked, and women know this. It seems they have collectively decided its far bette…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 02:41 PM
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Is it because their brains are wired differently and can't be logical, or it does their privilege and extreme advantage makes them unwilling to put more thought into it?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 07:07 AM
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Its amazing how dishonest majority of women are about the importance of looks. You can show them evidence right in front and they will say some bullshit about personality. Almost a pathological need to deny the importance of looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 06:16 PM
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Women will still have sex with and have casual flings with hot men. The idea is simple: There are fewer men women are physically attracted to, the rest are not needed in women's personal lives. Women want a society where they can function without men's involvement while they can collectively fuck the top 10% or so.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 07:01 PM
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Women have immensely more options than men and so they are demanding open relationships, as the opportunity cost of monogamy is too great for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 09:57 PM
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Your view was the generally accepted view for many decades. I personally used to agree with it as well. The problem is that women woman claim they are not attracted to 'stagnant imagery' but then are attracted to stagnant imagery of exceptionally attractive men anyway. It means hey just have a higher threshold for physical attraction. This view would be credible if women were not swiping right on super hot men either. They are en masse. This view is just as outdated as 'Women do not want sex wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 07:27 AM
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An obvious way to test and weed hot/gorgeous fuckboys out is to not make themselves sexually available until much later. This will weed out 90% of hot/gorgeous fuckboys. But women have sex with hot fuckboys on 1st and 2nd dates and keep fucking them hoping it leads to more. You are being completely dishonest about how this works.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 05:23 AM
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Most women agree that women find very few men physically attractive. Why are you shooting the messenger? How many guys in your age group do you find physically attractive to some extent? I can look at 10 women my age and easily find 7 or 8 physically appealing to some extent. The algo is based on a feedback loop. They show profiles that other women are swiping right on, which happen to be very few.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 10:11 PM
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Average and below average looking women are also obsessed with emotionally unavailable men who only see them as c** buckets. At what point do women take responsibility of their choices and shallow/elitist preference instead of just blaming hot fuckboys who are putting in minimum effort?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 10:01 PM
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Why tf White women want Asian men for novelty reasons? Why is it a one way street?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 09:11 PM
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Getting casual sex without bullshit is the sign of male superiority. Women only do this with men they have highest admiration and desire for. Its funny how you twist this around as something bad
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 09:09 PM
4

I'm not a tall White man. Trust me, AW love being fetishized by tall White men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 08:52 PM
10

Italy has low marriage rates. The women are still getting pumped by Italian stallions casually
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 08:41 PM
7

Why are women so collectively obsessed with men who are good at catching every fish then? Why is women's priority/obsession is to get genuine love/partnership from those men then? Why is women's behavior in dating pushing out the men who only want to catch the one fish?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 08:29 PM
0

I have studied all those flaws. I understand the ratio is 4:1 on dating apps. That still doesnt explain why the disparity in likes b/w the hottest men and the average ones is so great. There is something about women that make them unable to sexualize a man for his looks alone unless he looks like a male model. They just naturally find fewer men physically attractive than vice versa
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 07:44 PM
4

Why is it that women refuse to swipe right on any man who doesnt look like a male model then?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 07:35 PM
11

Getting women is the first step towards partnering. If men who dont meet the ideals of male beauty or arent tall enough shut off from the first step the rest wont follow.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 07:03 PM
1

This only applies to conventionally good looking men who can have casual sex like women do. The rest are miserable
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 04:17 PM
16

Men are less judgmental about flaws
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 10:14 PM
-2

Why is all sex autistic women getting is 'being used'?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 10:11 PM
0

How does it victimizes women?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 10:10 PM
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The context is sex here, not serious relationships. Men dont require the prettiest and thinnest women for sex. Women REQUIRE the hottest men for sex
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 05:19 PM
-1

They could be concerned that she's settling for a guy who isnt superhot, while for hookups and FWB most women can have their pick of the hottest men regardless of their own looks. The girls in her circle could feel she's selling herself short
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 06:15 PM
-1

You got it ass backwards. Men are jealous of Chads who pump n dump. Not those who tie the knot
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 06:12 PM
1

But thats the whole argument put by women: That even if an ugly obese, middle aged woman can get laid easily, it means she should be considered beautiful/hot by society's standards as well
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 12:59 PM
0

In women's minds, because they can get casually laid easily, no woman is low quality
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 09:45 PM
0

Which means you're in team "Women have lower sex drive" as opposed to "Women have equal sex drives but find fewer men physically attractive"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 07:40 PM
0

If women have learned to live without men, how/why more women than men are sexually active? Women who are proudly single and happy as per the blog articles still casually date, hookup, have short term flings, and have fuck buddies.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 07:24 PM
1

If women have learned to live without men, how/why more women than men are sexually active?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 07:23 PM
1

Why is this point of view so frowned upon by majority of women - that they are more selective, shallower, and elitist about looks than men?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 07:16 PM
4

Hijab prevents women from appealing to a large number of men and realizing her sexual potential.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 05:16 PM
1

Skinny women > Skinny men Short women > Short men
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 05:15 PM
-1

"Single women" still date casually, have the occasional hookup, short term flings, and fuck buddies who visit them from time to time. That's women's version of being 'single'
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 05:13 PM
2

I agree on surface, but then it raises another question: Why are women desperate for sex with super hot men? They do have the ability to desire sex spontaneously if the man is super hot/gorgeous. Would it be wrong to say women apparently desire sex less because there arent enough super/hot gorgeous men to go around? What comes first: Women's low sex drive or them being attracted to fewer men?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 05:11 PM
1

It seems that the smaller the world becomes, the higher the women's standards and lower the men's standards become.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 05:08 PM
1

When you're sitting on a dating app, what % of men do you swipe right on?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 06:18 AM
1

Maybe you're an exception because most women tend to be incredibly shallow and find very few men according to their physical type.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 06:12 AM
1

Because they dont meet your physical standards / type
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 04:58 AM
5

They're complaining that you need to be increasingly attractive as a man to get decreasingly attractive women as time goes by. You need to be tall, conventionally good looking, have your shit in order to date an average looking broke single mom. The average looking, broke single mom can still find 1000s of men willing to date her.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 12:08 AM
0

That doesnt explain why below average, borderline obese women have such a high SMV (number of sexual options)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 11:23 PM
-1

Why are an increasing number of young women struggling to find men they find attractive willing to partner up then? Men dont have that complaint
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 11:21 PM
5

Why arent you using dating apps, hanging out in clubs and bars and hooking up with men? How fucking hard it is for a non-hideously deformed/disfigured woman below 70 years of age to get laid and have some fuck buddies to spend time with?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 07:42 AM
1

Difficult question?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 07:25 AM
1

How were women coupling with their looksmatches in the 90s but are struggling to do so now?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 07:04 AM
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Its a distraction written by women to divert attention from the real reason: There arent enough hot/gorgeous men for every woman to marry. Everything points to looks, yet some women here are pathetically dishonest about it. A quick look at their fuck buddies will reveal wtf they really want
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 06:51 AM
0

And less people are coupling so what does that tell you? That women's requirements for good looks have gone up?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 06:49 AM
-1

Why are these independent women always open to Chad then?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 06:47 AM
-3

Just inquire more deeply from your single male friends. Most of them would be longing to have short term flings and relationships but arent able to. Then inquire the single women, and you'll find they have bustling dating lives with a hookup here and there and fuck buddies Single men and women live different lives
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 06:45 AM
2

Women are not lonely. Please correct this. Women are "single", but not lonely. They have bustling dating lives, hooking up with hot/gorgeous men from time to time, have rosters of fuck buddies, go on casual dates with men who wine and dine them for attention and validation. They are not fucking lonely. Men are lonely
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 04:31 AM
1

Your male friends cannot? You dont fuck all your male friends
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 11:58 PM
2

I've seen it. Its ridiculous how men's looks are undermined by women and good looking men are called mediocre. All the while harping about every woman being a gorgeous 10/10. it is nothing but a new form of bigotry against men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 12:28 AM
1

Disengage when called out on bullshit exaggerated claims
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 12:04 AM
1

I can grow facial hair, the only downside I noticed with that is beard looks good if you're either tall, buff or both. Being short and ectomorphic means beard is very hard to pull off. I am experimenting with hair though. Sometimes you wish you were gay so you werent subject to elitist looks standards of straight women. My bisexual friends who are short, fat, balding, pudgy faced have hedonistic lives and joke they'd be incels if they were straight.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 11:56 PM
1

The emo boy niche might have worked when I was in late teens early 20s. I dont think that look would suit a man in his 30s as hairline is also beginning to recede and boyish features are on decline. I understand finding a niche with these genetics is hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 11:36 PM
1

3.5 to 4 facially 5'7 no deformities try to wear well fitted clothes, always groomed, ectomorphic so extremely hard to muscle
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 11:24 PM
0

So why is it that despite the risk of being date raped, way more women than men are enjoying a bustling dating life? Why dont the numbers support this? Wouldn't it be the other way round if the risk was so limiting - few women daring to partake in dating and hookups, while many men doing the same?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 08:35 PM
1

And what qualities did that woman posess looks and personality wise? Was she very good looking/pretty and very extroverted, charming, outgoing, confident, charismatic?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 08:27 PM
0

You say dating sucks for both sides, but so many women say they're happier single casually dating, hooking up and having FWB with hot/gorgeous /sexy men. They're getting all their needs met via short term flings and dont want to get bound anymore. I have seen women's comments high fiving each other on Insta, Tiktok. Then they also laugh at men because men are so jealous of the fun they're having they feel excluded from.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 08:26 PM
2

What about the looks benchmark?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 08:19 PM
1

Ok. for research purposes, how would you rate this guy facially? Ugly, below average, average, above average, hot ?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 08:19 PM
1

A lot of average and below average looking go to bars and clubs with their existing wives and girlfriends. Just because you see these men talking to women doesnt mean they're picking up strangers (something which only conventionally hot men can pull off IMO)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 08:17 PM
1

To have low standards you still need to meet a high standard for looks and personality yourself as a man. Every man has low standards for casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 08:13 PM
1

Thats the reason I didnt ask for 'advice'. I asked for what they observed.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 08:12 PM
2

So very few men can build this persona and lifestyle. Meanwhile women face none of these requirements to live the same life.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 08:10 PM
1

It is sad isnt it that its not more straighforward as it is for women?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 08:01 PM
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It is so frutrating to deal with this view. Like theres such a constant tendency to undermine men's looks from their side and call decent above average looking men as ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 07:58 PM
1

I agree, but IME that 'needs to offer something' is in most cases just conventionally good looks, which is why most women say their requirements for good looks and hotness for casual sex is way higher than for relationships. Are you requirements for good looks/hotness the same for long term and casual? Like in retrospect, were you fuck buddies / hookups not significantly better looking than your steady boyfriends?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 07:37 PM
0

I'm talking about single women who have a bustling casual dating life, do hookups, short term flings, have fuck buddies, situationships, etc. They seem to have so much going in life despite being 'single'. Its as if 'single' has lost any meaning for women. Bwing 'single' for men means you have zero validating/sexual experiences with women. Mgtow men are just coping
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 07:32 PM
1

Do you know such women?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 07:29 PM
3

I've heard so many women say they just want good looking/hot dick when seeking casual sex and dont care about personality and character as long as he's bearable for an hour. I dont observe friendships with women important in casual sex, hookup success at all, but I understand other people may have different observations.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 05:02 PM
1

How does your worldview differ from women who say that for casual sex they just need hot dick and personality and character doesnt matter much?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 04:55 PM
3

Is it possible that average looking guy to you is statistically well above average?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 04:53 PM
2

There can be tall, lean, handsome nerds
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 04:52 PM
1

The question isnt about guys who get lucky once in a blue moon but guys who can get laid as easily as women
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 04:52 PM
0

Why cant men enjoy a single life like women proudly claim to?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 04:51 PM
2

What about the looks requirement?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 04:47 PM
2

The good looks are the biggest hurdle
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 04:46 PM
1

How tall was this guy and face wise?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 04:46 PM
2

I asked the question on other sub and they all say looks dont matter, while in my lifelong experience looks are the biggest hurdle. Are some women being dishonest?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 04:36 PM
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Were these the men you hooked up with or the ones you saw had most ease and frequency of getting laid?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 10:38 AM
3

Brutal
/r/BlackPillScience12/10/22 04:19 AM
1

Can you provide the full text. i need to see where its actually mentioned
/r/BlackPillScience12/10/22 04:19 AM
1

What a disgusting piece of trash Peter Fray
/r/MensRights21/10/21 09:18 PM
1

Modern independent women aren't afraid of anything so they are free to pursue exciting, sexy guys even if they know they have character flaws.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 05:14 PM
0

They do, but not without feeling they're compromising on attraction. They have to rationalize it in their minds.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 04:52 PM
1

Exactly. Average looking dudes aren't on the radar of even the ugliest women looking for casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 04:39 PM
2

Of course average looking men can up their SMV in other areas. Just so happens that the average begins way beyond the 50th percentile.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 04:37 PM
2

This study is the bane of every feminists existence.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 04:35 PM
2

He's superior also in the eyes of women, because in addition to women worshipping his dick, he will also have more women in love with him, heart broken by him, chasing him, having crushes on him, etc, despite his supposed lack of character.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 04:17 PM
1

So you agree its harder to be the guy who's selected for casual sex and hes in fact superior rather than a "loser" as you claim. He has superior genetics, looks, body, dick, confidence, charm, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 04:04 PM
1

What if he's very goodlooking and hot and insists on sex early?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 04:02 PM
2

So why don't women require the really hot, high value men to prove themselves and fuck them early on without conditions?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 04:01 PM
1

I'm talking about sex. If a man dates an average looking woman he'd still be willing to fuck her on first date as he would when dating a superhot one. The fact that he's dating her already means he's sexually attracted and her position in the hotness and social hierarchy doesn't matter in that decision. But when a woman dates an average looking guy, she will require a lot more time and effort from him before having sex vs a superhot guy. Why do they have this value system?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 04:00 PM
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I'm talking about sex. If a man dates an average looking woman he'd still be willing to fuck her on first date as he would when dating a superhot one. The fact that he's dating her already means he's sexually attracted and her position in the hotness and social hierarchy doesn't matter in that decision. But when a woman dates an average looking guy, she will require a lot more time and effort from him before having sex vs a superhot guy. Why do they have this value system?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 03:59 PM
1

Sure. But if a guy doesn't meet them you wouldn't date him tbw. My question is why would you have different rules and conditions regarding sex when dating different men based on their hotness?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 03:52 PM
1

A average looking woman cannot afford to let go of hot men above her league like this. She must fuck superior men without conditions unless she wants to date her equals only, which average women absolutely hate.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 03:50 PM
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So I reckon it must be really easy to be that "loser". No? Way easier than being someone who's suitable for long term dating. Why are you lying when the "losers" are clearly superior in genetics, looks, body, socially, confidence, etc?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 03:47 PM
1

A lot of women claim a guy they're making to wait for sex is more valuable than guys they fucked on first dates, but in reality they had so much more respect and value for them. Is it not true that the more superior a guy is socially, genetically, the sooner you feel obliged to fuck him?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 03:45 PM
2

Why are you lying? Why is so much harder to be the "loser" multiple women use for sex alone, but easier to get into a long term relationship with one woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 03:41 PM
1

Why do conventionally hot men report getting laid on first dates while average men report having to go on several dates before having sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 03:38 PM
1

Women don't have a scarcity mindset when it comes to men in their own leauge. Not for men way above their leauges
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 03:36 PM
2

You're an exception. Most women would fuck a really hot guy on first meeting even if they go around harping on about having an x-day rule
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/21 11:24 PM
6

Why set different boundaries and terms for sex with different men, if you're dating them?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/21 11:21 PM
4

It means "I won't have sex on first date with YOU"
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/21 11:19 PM
-1

You're from FDS?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/21 11:18 PM
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For men being fuckzoned means theyre high value and attractive. Loser men cant be fuckzoned. Edit: women do lie and call hot, sexy guys losers once they get burned by them or figure they're not interested in relationships. But the natural unconditional attraction, desire, lust and the deep admiration and respect they have for them is clearly visible in how they respond to them vs other long term, stable, loyal less attractive men they marry.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/21 11:16 PM
0

What if you come across a very high value, good-looking guy? Aren't you going to bend the rules for him?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/21 11:14 PM
0

What if he was a very goodlooking, high value guy? Can you afford to friendzone those type of men?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/21 11:13 PM
1

Very eloquently put
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/21 11:11 PM
3

Women cannot dare to play these games with hot and high value men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/21 11:09 PM
1

You're lying. Most women have been explicitly saying for ages that personality is more important than looks. They make that distinction. Also, there have been surveys whereby women ranked the most important qualities in a partner and looks rank at around number 5 or 6.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 08:51 AM
1

Why are men way more aware of their own shallow nature than women?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/21 08:00 PM
1

Bad reputation just as mens
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/21 06:55 PM
1

Who demands it? What'd be the repurcussions if they don't maintain that reputation?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/21 06:29 PM
2

You're clearly implying that men go for girls above their league for casual sex. Thats not the case. Even ugly, fat, short, broke, loser girls with their lives in the toilet get laid with good-looking guys
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/21 03:18 PM
1

Is this even up for debate at this point? As a guy if you're not conventionally good-looking you can safely write off any hopes of finding love and sex naturally. Paid sex is the future
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/21 03:10 PM
5

You are lying. For short term flings and casual sex even below average women exclusively want good-looking guys
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/21 03:08 PM
4

Maybe they should travel there to experience short term dating and come back far more confident and less needy of women's approval.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/21 03:06 PM
21

Your use of the term 'get lucky' explains all.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/21 03:04 PM
9

Because they like to be collectively known as the less shallower gender. Also, women naturally have a lesser ability for introspection than men
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/21 03:01 PM
3

dont use hyperboles. Majority of guys would be more than satisfied with long term relationships in their early to late 20's. Its just that women are busy worshipping Chad's penis.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/21 01:49 PM
2

Same for women. They need gifts and money from rich old ugly guys
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/21 01:14 PM
5

They can use money and lifestyle as a lure to bang hot young men. Thats what ugly men do. Why do you think women are above that?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/21 09:26 AM
1

Body positivity, fat acceptance, beauty in all shapes snd sizes, etc. - are only for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/21 09:24 AM
1

At 24 no one wants marriage these days. Men or women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/21 07:07 AM
3

They can get committed long term boyfriends if not husbands at 24. A massive amount if average looking guys are friendzoned by girls at that age. Sure, I get that they'd only want commitment from the guys hot enough for hookups, at that age.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/21 11:50 PM
7

They're struggling to marry good quality dick they're used to layin with. Ofcouse they have beta's willing to marry them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/21 05:33 PM
6

In addition to casual dick from Chad
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/21 04:26 PM
43

They're still way better off than average men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/21 02:48 PM
4

Men have low standards for casual sex and many need to fuck like they need to piss Dont be too flattered honey
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/21 02:46 PM
114

This: men struggle from the start and are burnt out by 30. They've accepted things as they are. What I find funny is that even these complaining 30+ women have no shortage of hot young dick. They're failing at finding a husband
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/21 02:44 PM
2

I'm going by your (womens) definition of trash for the sake of argument. According to women here the main reason why paid sex is problematic is thats johns are misogynistic. I'm just saying that the prevalance of misogyny among johns is no more than say, guys who have lots of casual sex. Sure, those men are hot so women don't care about their character. Womwn are extremely poor judges of men's character anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 09:54 PM
2

I heard paid sex is common in Brazil too. Any society that doesn't shame men for paying for sex is essentially encouraging them to leave the dating) courtship world and not give a shit about women .
/r/ExRedPill22/03/21 09:38 PM
1

I agree. Until a few years back no one could call out Karen's lest be accused of misogyny by progressives
/r/ExRedPill22/03/21 09:34 PM
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Many men who are deeply misogynistic get laid a lot. I've heard locker room talk of jocks. The problem with incels is that they don't have any sexual currency.
/r/ExRedPill22/03/21 09:32 PM
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I think it comes from how dating profiles of single moms come across as very demanding and entitled. I've literally lost count of profiles that translate to "I'm primarily looking for someone to help me raise kids". EDIT: banned from this sub for this comment. Wow!
/r/ExRedPill22/03/21 09:29 PM
2

You do realize that even 50 year old women can join Tinder and find an unlimited supply of young dick? If the redpill nonsense about the wall was correct how could old women get laid way more easily than old men, since men are supposed to age like wine?
/r/ExRedPill22/03/21 09:26 PM
1

Sure. Just like when girls fuck fuckboys from Tinder and drunken one night stands with hot jocks on campuses.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 09:08 PM
2

How could I know what? That I never harmed anyone?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 08:59 PM
3

Have you heard locker room talk of varsity jocks about sluts they're banging and passing around? Or how guys on men's groups discuss their Tinder exploits and share notes? Why do you specifically have a problem with johns hatred for womem when other men who have casual sex are the same or worse? Is it because johns aren't good-looking and it vexes you that men who ought not to get no strings, casual sex are able to bypass their limitation and pay for it?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 08:29 PM
0

Yeah, hell with them too.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 08:02 PM
3

Why does johns being women haters bother you more than good-looking, hot manwhores and fuckboys who feel the same way?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 07:54 PM
1

Just look at the women on this thread pretending they care about sex workers when they are deeply vexed that beta males who don't deserve casual, free, no strings sex, are able to pay for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 07:40 PM
2

I never harmed any sex worker. I've been with 100s
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 07:31 PM
1

They may have genuine things for older guys but its not casual sex. They want them for different reasons, like they see him as a mentor or a father figure. They dont sexualize old men. Meanwhile most young boys would happily fuck 40 year old milfs. There is simply no comparison.
/r/ExRedPill22/03/21 07:31 PM
2

Paid sex is the equivalent of Tinder and Bumble for average and below average looking men. Mediocre, ugly, broke, loser women have sex with men way outta their leagues from Tinder, while their male equivalents pay sex workers. Paying for sex is way better than being an incel
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 07:29 PM
1

Ive had sex with over 200 prostitutes. Never shamed them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 07:25 PM
2

Stop pretending you care about sex workers and face it you have a problem with men having a convinient outlet for something you beleive they should bend backwards for.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 07:23 PM
3

Women who are losers get laid left and right Why is it a problem if loser men pay for it?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 07:21 PM
1

He wouldn't be an incel if women wanted to date him
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 07:20 PM
2

Deeplyisogynistic chauvinistic, sexist men get laid all the time as long as they're good looking. Do you how much contempt so many high value men have for the 'sluts' they bang? Stop lying that you care about men's character. Most johns just want regular sex and dont have contempt for sex workers.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 07:15 PM
0

The guy who manipulated many girls into sex ought to be higher value than the one who paid for sex because he couldn't get laid. Women have deep admiration for fuckboys
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 07:08 PM
0

Yes, there is no reason for a 22 yr old girl to want casual sex with a 40 year old man unless he is a celebrity or a sugar daddy. Since women are superior and more valuable sex (I'm a male feminist so I consider women superior), teenaged and 20 something guys love to have sex with older women in their 40s and 50s.
/r/ExRedPill22/03/21 06:33 PM
0

But also below average looking men getting casual, no strings sex is a huge monstrosity. They ought to wait patiently until women have had their fun with hot men and are willing to give them a chance conditional upon 2 years of courtship and being on 'best behavior'.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 06:30 PM
0

Its surely a Western thing. Look at places like South America, Thailand, Philippines, Eastern Europe; no epidemic of incels and simping there. The reason is simple; any young man who is conventionally good-looking enough to partake in dating and hookup culture, can easily pay for sex and not feel deprived or left out. No one bats an eye or calls him a loser because its so normalized. Also, the dating market is less imbalanced as a result and average looking women aren't ridiculously over valued …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 06:04 PM
3

I'm talking about casual sex and fuck buddy scenarios. Older women have no problems finding young college dick
/r/ExRedPill22/03/21 05:34 PM
1

Yes. But aa a woman, you must look down upon men who pay for sex
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 05:33 PM
-11

As a male feminist, I find it incredibly offensive that you lump older women dating college boys together with creepy old dudes preying on impressionable girls. Lets stop judging female sexuality and celebrate it in all its forms. Women are queens and goddesses and deserve love/sex with young boys regardless of how old they themselves are.
/r/ExRedPill22/03/21 01:30 PM
-3

Young 20 yo guys date/hookup with 30-40 year old women all the time. Why would it be any different the other way round?
/r/ExRedPill22/03/21 01:28 PM
1

The men who sleep with prostitutes don't shame them
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 11:07 AM
0

How is it different than men who used to have casual sex with sluts from Tinder?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 10:51 AM
0

It is mostly a Western thing and a result of feminism. Paid sex is somewhat of an equalizer in terms of sexual marketplace and therefore against feminism
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 10:50 AM
1

Leauges do exist. A regular joe cant just hit on models and get a positive response. He wont get swipes on Tinder or Bumble. A really good looking, hot guy can. Clearly some people are more attractive than others.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 08:24 PM
1

The biggest evidence to the contrary is that women don't beleive in leagues but men do. Men tend to be aware that certain women are above their leauge, but women never feel this way even about male celebrities.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 07:46 PM
1

I disagree. As a male feminist, I beleive pahtriarchy prevents fat women from finding tall, fit looking guys as partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 07:43 PM
2

Their hypocrisy is well known and its good that its being acknowledged
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 07:42 PM
2

Lets just face it, you are ok with fat neck beards being told hot slender babes are above theie league. Feminists encourage that. They just have a problem when women are told to be realistic
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 07:40 PM
1

What's wrong with being realistic and telling people that their expectations aren't realistic or they're shooting for someone way out of their leauge?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 07:38 PM
1

Theyre still judgemental to men though
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 07:36 PM
0

But why do you want to compete with women? Its not tit for tat, like if fat men are laughed at for expecting slender babes, we must do the same to fat women? As a male feminist, I believe women should be allowed a much bigger room to be hypocritical.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 07:35 PM
1

Then why do most guys find it so hard to get into fuck buddy arrangements, but most do get to have relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/21 02:29 PM
1

That's not the information I've received. Most men say its harder to be the fuck buddy than a serious bf.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/21 01:09 PM
2

So why are so many young men claiming their only option is courting, dating, and finding a steady gf/wife, because they're unwanted in the casual sex market? This doesn't make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/21 03:20 AM
1

It might be best for you, not for her :)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/21 01:53 AM
2

A bigger question is, why would a woman who has fucked such high quality, good-looking, attractive, well endowed men, want to marry a man who doesn't measure up to the best of her sexual past?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/21 01:52 AM
1

So why aren't y'all having casual sex with blue pilled simps?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/21 01:50 AM
1

He must be a really hot guy probably above your league in looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/21 01:48 AM
4

The problem is women have way more admiration, love, desire, respect, lust for the men they have casual sex with than the one's they settle down with. Women gaslight men by saying they actually value the latter category more, which is certainly not true. The problem is this value system / hierarchy that women operate whereby the more high value a man is the less conditional sex is for him and the lesser effort required of him. Most men dont want to be in that position. Once a man sees how a part…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/21 01:46 AM
1

They absolutely hate it when told that men actually face a lot more pressure to be conventionallly good-looking than women in order to have casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/21 01:36 AM
1

Ok. So by your logic it should be easier for men to be the fuck buddy than a serious bf, because the former requires very little input, yes?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/21 01:33 AM
1

Women can still have a sexual relationships with the guy who 'friend-zones' them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 09:11 PM
1

Can you share some examples of his RP mgtow mindset?
/r/ExRedPill17/03/21 03:15 AM
1

They say they urge men to not put more effort than women.
/r/ExRedPill17/03/21 03:14 AM
5

Society never promoted casual sex because women's selective nature and value system would've lead to a winner takes all scenario and lead to instability in society as the common man wouldn't have a stake in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 02:48 AM
3

Thats because modern women compartmentalize 'relationship stuff' and 'sex' and want different things from different men. It is very alarming
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 01:52 AM
1

I'd say 5-6 women a year would be better
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 01:49 AM
1

You're framing the question in a hyperbolic manner. They wont INSTANTLY leave their partners if they could get unlimited casual sex instantly. Many would though. Its more like most men wont gravitate towards committed relationships in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 01:46 AM
1

Maybe if Chad had some girls over who were drunk and he sneaked you in
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/21 01:36 PM
1

Source for what? As a male feminist I hope that becomes the norm. Marrying average men just to raise children is incredibly oppresssive to women, who can otherwise live like free birds, enjoying sex with the most attractive men
/r/ExRedPill06/01/21 05:53 PM
-2

Yeah, how about state fully takes up the brought up of children? Women go to a sperm bank and get male model seed, or have one night stand with local Chad, and the state takes care of the child.
/r/ExRedPill05/01/21 07:03 PM
0

Selection bias. Men only messaged 7% of their matches because you're only looking at the top 5 or so percentile men who have all the matches concentrated. Were talking about very good-looking, model/athlete type guy who has a 100 active matches and will respond to those who seem the most dtf. What about the guys who just have 1 or 2 matches (the vast majority) ? Its impossible they eint message first unless they matched with fake profiles and bots. Women message at higher rate because they only …
/r/ExRedPill05/01/21 06:57 PM
1

Ok. Include Bumble and other apps too then.
/r/ExRedPill05/01/21 06:50 PM
0

You're supposed to have a traumatizing experience on Tinder as a woman, if we go by some of the denialists here.
/r/ExRedPill05/01/21 06:49 PM
-1

Ever observed the hookup/fwb scene on a college campus?
/r/ExRedPill05/01/21 06:48 PM
1

Notice this study says nothing about match distribution which is what the topic is supposed to be. Instead it talks about message-match ratio. I'd like to see a study showing the match distribution curve for both genders. I don't care how many matches women get more than men as a group. Im interested in the match distribution. I'm willing to bet the match distribution curve is more exponential for men.
/r/ExRedPill05/01/21 06:47 PM
2

Committing to her won't bring out her inner whore back. Maybe temporarily if you assure its going to make you stick. It seems she has had degarding sex with a lot of men over the years who all didn't think of her as more than a cum dumpster and that has lowered her self esteem. Men do have lower standards for casual sex. She needs to feel validated now. I see her settling down with a beta/simp in the near future.
/r/askTRP03/01/21 10:19 PM
6

I still don't desire marriage or committed relationships but am ok with no strings sex. So technically I'm not mgtow now
/r/ExRedPill31/12/20 12:31 AM
-2

I don't think its an issue. 18, year old girls can have way more relationship/sexual experience than 25, year old guys these days.
/r/ExRedPill25/10/20 11:13 PM
2

Not at all. If this were true incels could easily get women by treating them badly
/r/ExRedPill24/10/20 06:39 PM
1

Tbh, the problem he has described is not a gendered one, but rather a mindset one. Left leaning people are more likely to place emphasis on feelings than facts. Facts are often racist, sexist, misogynistic to them and thats what they end up accusing others of in arguments.
/r/ExRedPill23/10/20 12:45 PM
4

PUA doesn't work.
/r/ExRedPill22/10/20 12:33 PM
1

Although it wasn't a Buzzfeed article, but I wonder what's wrong with Buzzfeed? It represents the issues of young women. I was advised by my female friends to follow it.
/r/ExRedPill20/10/20 01:46 PM
0

Tldr?
/r/ExRedPill20/10/20 10:34 AM
1

I read on a feminist forum that good men do not get defensive when men are called trash and their shortcomings are highlighted. Self deprecation is a trait that is valued by feminists in men.
/r/ExRedPill20/10/20 09:31 AM
4

It comes down to demand and supply. My question for men is, why are they more desperate for sex, female companionship, and relationships than vice versa? Why can't they raise their standards and stop being fascinated by mediocre women who apparently have unlimited options?
/r/ExRedPill20/10/20 08:07 AM
1

As a feminist ally, I'd be very careful in drawing parallels between the two. When women give negative emotions in a relationships its due to men's shortcomings and making her do the 'emotional labor'. I read on feminist websites that women are supposed to do all the emotional labor, men are 'manchilds' and can't meet the awesomeness of women halfway. Another reason is that women have genuine mood swings which need to be accounted for.
/r/ExRedPill19/10/20 02:48 PM
1

A woman may give negative emotions from to time to time but that's because they already go through a lot and due to men's shortcomings in relationships. They also have mood swings which are a genuine cause for negative emotions. But why would a man give negative emotions? Please give me a valid reason for this. Now, I do understand that it seems some men who give negative emotions from time to time seem to have women totally into them. Those men are able to retain the mystery and keep them guess…
/r/ExRedPill19/10/20 12:56 PM
7

I totally disagree with this idea of red-pillers that men age better. If men age better than women, how come an average looking 40 year old woman still get 10x more hookup offers on dating sites than an average looking 40 year old man. Truth is, most women can get laid very easily upto retirement age if they take reasonable care of themselves.
/r/ExRedPill19/10/20 12:09 AM
1

I think what you say is very dangerous. If feminist dating advice or being a male feminist didn't work for you, it means you didn't follow it properly. In any case your statements are dangerous because telling men that being feminists leads to dating success is good for women, so even if it didn't work for you, you should keep quiet about it.
/r/ExRedPill18/10/20 04:06 PM
1

What do you mean the feminist type dating advice was not working? Is this a backhanded insult to feminist dating advice?
/r/ExRedPill18/10/20 08:54 AM
1

Incels don't have any morals and are also misogynists. I was thinking that if its true that some women are attracted to men who treat them badly then the incels can also do that and have sex/relationships with such women.
/r/ExRedPill17/10/20 04:57 PM
-1

Ive never seen women sexualizing obese men or midgets
/r/ExRedPill16/10/20 02:51 PM
1

Than women
/r/ExRedPill16/10/20 02:47 PM
-4

They're not inclusive for men who are obese or have low self-esteem.
/r/ExRedPill16/10/20 02:46 PM
8

As a male feminist I wouldn't judge the sexual preferences of women even if that means some of them are attracted to criminals and murderers. The only way I would want to interpret this is that women are more compassionate and empathetic and their inner nurturing instinct makes them care for and love such men. This is something incels need to understand
/r/ExRedPill16/10/20 01:45 PM
-9

Doesn't make sense. Why can't the incels use the same approach to attract women with low self esteem?
/r/ExRedPill16/10/20 01:41 PM
-14

// I saw a porn video once that had an extremely obese woman and it had 3000 likes. I don't understand men. Is this proof they only think with their dicks? Men are so strange."// It means men generally have more inclusive sexual preferences and find a range of womens body types attractive.
/r/ExRedPill16/10/20 01:35 PM
-1

There's always the trade-off
/r/RedPillWomen09/10/20 08:52 PM
2

Thats bullshit. When they want pure love and sex, they just need good looks and youth.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 08:41 PM
0

I think that women generally carry a lot more baggage than men and that certainly discourages men from marrying. Also, you mention that men need to make themselves into marriage material, but overlook women's "Dual Mating Strategy'. Many of us are "marriage material" and have some options to marry, but we are invisible to women looking for fun, chemistry, sex, hookups, and flings.
/r/ExRedPill06/10/20 07:22 AM
1

Its interesting to see that no woman wants to address this point
/r/ExRedPill04/10/20 01:20 AM
1

Women simply cannot fathom why men would find it cringey.
/r/ExRedPill03/10/20 09:53 PM
3

Why aren't PUA gurus teaching men to be sex positive male feminists? Every feminist says thats all men need to find casual sex partners. So why not actually try it
/r/ExRedPill02/10/20 09:01 AM
4

Men have never downplayed the importance of looks or virtue signalled. We're percieved as more shallow than we actually are. Reverse is true for women though
/r/ExRedPill01/10/20 09:33 AM
6

I guess the ones who 'complain' about it aren't the ones giving them attention. I personally don't complain about it, but I do look down upon men who simp for women they'll never fuck. I enjoy memes that ridicule them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/20 11:49 PM
2

I assume that ensuring their daughters don't become promiscuous, hedonistic, self harming, etc would be high on their parenting objectives. I personally do think that girls who become promiscuous at a young age tend to be unstable and have a lot of issues.
/r/ExRedPill30/09/20 10:03 PM
1

That's just tough love..so kids grow up to become strong people. A lot of parents do that not just redpillers, and its in response to how snowflaky and easily offended youth is nowadays
/r/ExRedPill30/09/20 09:57 PM
1

Thing is, on the opposite side of the spectrum things aren't good for kids either. Ultra left liberals making their kids adhere to their agenda.
/r/ExRedPill30/09/20 09:54 PM
1

Chads aren't committing to Becky's
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/20 09:00 PM
7

So why do they get laid so much if they're trash in bed?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/20 08:58 PM
8

Changes in sexual marketplace is the reason. The left is afraid to acknowledge that
/r/BlackPillScience29/09/20 08:52 PM
1

By 'available' I meant that the only women interested in him are the ones looking to settle down and vet someone for a long term relationship; not the ones looking for short term fun and hook-ups. OP clearly implies that. You dont need to be 'sjw' about the term 'available'.
/r/ExRedPill28/09/20 02:51 PM
1

That's the problem. Girls are only available to him for proper dating and serious relationships; not for no strings fun.
/r/ExRedPill28/09/20 10:03 AM
0

This post is just echoing MGTOW narrative which is highly toxic and basically encourages men to opt out of dating and relationships. As a male feminist, I believe that men's effort to win over and court women benefit women and make their lives a lot easier and more interesting. If men just become apathetic to women it wont be a good thing for the latter.
/r/ExRedPill27/09/20 02:58 PM
2

Its good, but it's not always easily possible for many men. There's a cost-benefit tradeoff.
/r/ExRedPill27/09/20 02:55 PM
1

By having no strings sex. If you're good-looking/hot you can have casual sex with regular women. If you're average looking or below, you can pay for sex every now and then
/r/ExRedPill27/09/20 02:54 PM
1

So why can't this apply the other way round too? She's hooked up with guys way hotter than him; he's had plenty of flings and casual sex with way hotter girls. That way both are in a similar mindset and coming from a similar place. Since he hasn't had those experiences and is insecure about that, why cant he just go out and have casual sex and hookups with numerous hot, sexy girls, so when he's considering a less attractive but more relationship oriented girl, both are in the same place?
/r/ExRedPill27/09/20 11:05 AM
0

What's not true?
/r/ExRedPill27/09/20 10:59 AM
-1

Like I said, its not that the guys she slept with before were more attractive. Its that she requires way more effort and conditions of him for having sex. It means she values him much lesser than guys before. Its understandable that a guy would feel cringey about it. Again, its not about sex, but the fact that she's operating a "value system" that determines how soon to have sex with a guy. And he's not obligated to pursue such girls for serious relationships. He can stick around to get laid a f…
/r/ExRedPill26/09/20 04:51 PM
2

It is somewhat true though that the hotter and better looking a guy is the more quickly and the lesser the effort women require of them before having sex. It does hurt a guy's self esteem knowing that the girl he needs to court and pursue for months before even kissing, had sex with a hot guy on 1st date. Thing is men don't have this mindset. We're either attracted to a woman or we aren't. We dont require more effort from average looking women before having sex.
/r/ExRedPill26/09/20 01:15 PM
0

They're are better looking and hotter than him
/r/ExRedPill26/09/20 01:11 PM
1

If you get sad that better looking guys had sex with her in past, why don't you have sex with her as well? Are you saying they're interested in you for something else?
/r/ExRedPill26/09/20 01:10 PM
0

So you are going to purposely ignore the quotes? I was quoting someone earlier who equated hookups to being cum dumpsters for girls.
/r/ExRedPill23/09/20 08:43 PM
1

Really. Where did I say that? I am a sex positive person
/r/ExRedPill23/09/20 06:17 PM
0

Who says there's anything wrong with it? You're just getting defensive about it.
/r/ExRedPill23/09/20 05:03 PM
0

Thats a very old school perspective. As a feminist I don't agree women have lower sex drives. The reason girls don't pursue men as much is because they find few guys attractive and high value enough to be pursued.
/r/ExRedPill23/09/20 03:53 PM
0

You're saying girls are less thirsty? How can you say so?
/r/ExRedPill23/09/20 12:22 PM
0

It seems that if the guy is good-looking enough most girls don't mind being what you call "cum dumpster". On a serious note, most girls agree casual sex and hookups are only things they do with really good-looking, hot guys.
/r/ExRedPill23/09/20 10:03 AM
-1

Girls are also thirsty. Just ask any really hot guy who looks like a model. He experiences the same thing an average looking girl does on Tinder. Its just that girls are attracted to fewer men. The looks benchmark/cut off for them is higher, but once met they behave the same as men.
/r/ExRedPill23/09/20 10:00 AM
3

Interestingly, a male feminist would twist this around and somehow rationalize that girls have it worse on Tinder
/r/TheRedPill23/09/20 01:36 AM
2

More like 4s have egos of 8s
/r/TheRedPill23/09/20 01:34 AM
-8

He's quite wrong. Women tend to be shallower than men in the dating world, as far as looks are concerned. The proof of this is that an average or below average looking girl gets way more dating/hookup options than an average or below average looking guy.
/r/ExRedPill23/09/20 01:28 AM
1

Ofcourse
/r/askTRP29/08/20 12:54 PM
9

I doubt they're highly desired. I get that some washed up sluts might want to settle for them
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/20 10:46 PM
1

Only misogynists have a problem with men complimenting and encouraging women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/20 09:34 PM
4

You can easily do an experiment on Tinder or Bumble, anywhere in the world to confirm this.
/r/ExRedPill15/07/20 05:28 PM
5

There is sufficient evidence that women who don't look good can find sexual partners way more easily than men who don't look good.
/r/ExRedPill15/07/20 12:36 PM
1

I don't think there's anything wrong with acknowledging that women are naturally more selective than men, and find fewer men physically attractive than vice versa. Most women also acknowledge this. This fact need not breed hate and anger in men. It needs to be accepted
/r/ExRedPill14/07/20 11:43 PM
-5

This is the time to settle down with a stable man.
/r/RedPillWomen13/07/20 02:02 AM
2

No. That's not problematic in itself. The problem is that arguments against incel narrative is weakened by it.
/r/ExRedPill12/07/20 07:26 PM
1

True, but immature/hateful people are going to insult others nevertheless, be it fuckboy/manwhore shaming or slut-shaming.
/r/ExRedPill12/07/20 06:55 PM
0

Point No 1 is very problematic and in fact validates some of the narratives of blackpill/incel community (which is btw far more toxic than redpill). The first and foremost taunt given to incels is that they dont get laid because of their misogyny and not because of looks.
/r/ExRedPill12/07/20 06:51 PM
1

Whats the difference, or what are the real life consequences for a college girl who is called a slut by some guys/girls on campus? I'm asking because I've seen more girls on campus who were into hookups, casual sex, one night stands, than guys during my college days. If slut shaming had a tangible affect, there would be fewer girls into casual sex than guys.
/r/ExRedPill12/07/20 06:38 PM
0

I meant this will destroy the beauty of the courtship process. Men have traditionally had to put in a lot of time and effort to impress a woman. This includes everything from planning dates, dinners, being funny and interesting, showering them with compliments and small gifts, being available for emotional support being a good listener, being a trusted supportive friend, etc. All this requires men to form a friendship first and a lot of time. If we restrict dating to a yes I find you hot / I don…
/r/ExRedPill12/07/20 06:29 PM
1

Its the men who don't have casual sex that judge women for having the same. Tbh, they are free to not have relationships with women who have casual sex. Its just a preference. They just shouldn't insult them. Otoh, men who want to have casual sex but can't because they aren't good-looking, attractive, insult women for not putting out soon enough and requiring then to jump through hoops, invest in relationships as a condition. The grievance of these men is that the same women would hookup with ho…
/r/ExRedPill12/07/20 05:54 PM
-1

This is a dangerous narrative. You're saying men shouldn't try and use their actions to impress women, and if they're not attracted to looks they should just move on? That will destroy the whole dating and courtship rituals in our culture.
/r/ExRedPill12/07/20 05:48 PM
0

I think equivalent terms to insult promiscuous men have become popular in recent times. Manwhore, Fuccboi, pig, side dick etc are commonly used by women.
/r/ExRedPill12/07/20 05:46 PM
3

True. Same goes for any forum that is centered around debating right wing vs left wing, etc
/r/ExRedPill12/07/20 05:43 PM
2

I thought misogynists couldn't get laid because of their misogyny. What am I missing here?
/r/ExRedPill12/07/20 05:41 PM
0

This should be taught in 8th grade science class
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/20 03:03 PM
7

Makes sense. Most women say they have much higher requirements for good looks when they want casual sex and hook ups.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/20 05:39 PM
1

Then why do women have them?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/20 04:22 PM
8

Do you have higher requirements for good looks when you want a hookup?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/20 04:20 PM
10

Modern women will still fuck him on the side while dating the stable guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/20 07:27 PM
12

You don't realize that in countries like Thailand, Brazil, and Eastern European countries where prostitution is booming, readily available, and there's way less stigma attached to men visiting them, there is way less simping and vagina worship than in US. It is almost a rite of passage in these cultures for guys to see prostitutes and so no one is left out. You wont see incels in these societies. The extent that men in US and UK go to to impress mediocre looking women is absolutely insane and a …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/20 07:25 PM
0

True. Legalization and normalization. It should be seen as just an alternate to going on a date. A guy could tell his parents he's going to see a whore without any shame just like he'd go out with a gf.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/20 07:20 PM
3

In all these countries simping is a less serious epidemic than it is in US
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/20 07:17 PM
1

How is "talking to women" different than talking to people or other men?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/20 11:53 PM
1

Be able to talk to women? So men who have a lot of female friends but couldn't get a hookup/gf in ages don't know how to "talk" to women?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/20 08:20 PM
1

Just make 2 profiles on Tinder, of a mediocre looking girl and a mediocre looking guy. Swipe on 500 hot people only. See results after 3 days. The girl will have 50x more matches and hookup offers than the guy. Just try it. You'll be amazed.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/20 11:27 AM
-3

Still, why is his toxicity a hindrance in getting laid, but the bad boys toxicity a catalyst?
/r/ExRedPill24/06/20 09:21 AM
-3

Women will avoid him but not the toxic bad boy? How ironic
/r/ExRedPill24/06/20 08:11 AM
-2

Absolutely agree.
/r/ExRedPill24/06/20 08:09 AM
1

Typical isnt it? First dispute the claim that mediocre looking women can get laid easily with better looking men, and then say "I was just passing by.. I'm not myself interested in casual sex", when told to use Tinder.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/20 04:28 AM
1

You sure can rate men from undesirable to extremely attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/20 10:15 PM
1

How do you rate yourself on looks?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/20 09:43 PM
1

For average and below average women there is an inconsistency. Hot guys who are casually fucking hot girls, also fuck 3s, 4's, and 5's on odd days. Do you see hot guys 8/10 in serious LTR or married to 3s?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/20 08:32 PM
2

Men are pressured to prove they can get casual sex easily. Women fear being seen as cheap if they admit having casual sex let alone fucking a stranger
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/20 07:52 PM
3

Why don't you join Tinder, swipe right on 50 hot guys and see how many match and accept your hookup offer? Is this too difficult?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/20 07:49 PM
2

It seems women on Tinder and generally within the casual sex scene dont agree to this. For them its important to bed the most perfect looking specimen possible
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/20 01:27 PM
-2

You're consistent. Many women aren't. They have 'types' for different purposes
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/20 11:49 AM
0

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.livescience.com/amp/5625-men-choosy-night-stands.html Here
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/20 11:49 AM
-2

Since you bring up "types" many women say they have a type for hookups and casual sex and another for marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/20 09:14 AM
5

If that's true why are men willing to sleep with less attractive women while women only want casual sex with hot men?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/20 09:10 AM
3

I've done that many times
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/20 01:29 AM
18

Trust me. Sex positive libfems are the worst offenders in this regard. Anyone who dares to point out that men have lower standards for casual sex is labelled an incel, misogynist and what not.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/20 07:31 PM
50

Women and feminists dont want to acknowledge it. It portrays women as more shallow and unforgiving than men on looks. Women have an extremely strong, almost pathological need to feel good about themselves and they will never admit this. The second reason is, that admitting its easier for women to fuck men way more attractive and high status than themselves "cheapens" their sexual expereince in their minds. They like to think it was their unique feminine charm that seduced attractive men. Saying …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/20 05:53 PM
2

Man here. Its not disgusting and they have every right to do so. But people / society have a right to judge them or be uncomfortable with their actions too.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/20 02:25 PM
40

Male feminists are the worst cretins on the planet.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/20 09:58 PM
1

Trying and failing is not without losses. You do realize as a man, dating and pursuing women requires a lot of time, money, energy, and emotions. You have to do a cost-benefit analysis and know when to stop wasting your efforts. I see guys who compromise their studies, career, social lives with friends and family, etc trying to be active in the dating game and pursuing women. Not to mention repeated failures despite the effort dents your self-esteem over time.The same time and effort can be spen…
/r/ExRedPill20/06/20 01:04 PM
1

Sure. Your wife should be able to tolerate your baggage and insecurities. Its better to have experienced a lot and then settle with a woman who is rather inexperienced, rather than the other way round as you want.
/r/ExRedPill20/06/20 12:58 PM
0

He confirms this below. I think for some reason this 'pattern' in the dating world seems to offend you and make you defensive. Why is that?
/r/ExRedPill20/06/20 12:54 PM
1

Its more likely that your average looking counterparts are hooking up with guys who are a few points higher than them on the looks scale and fail to obtain commitment from them. Women who are 3's, 4's, and 5's DO NOT hookup with guys who are 3's, 4's, and 5's. That's something that just doesn't happen.
/r/ExRedPill20/06/20 12:52 PM
2

I speak from experience as well as observations of other men around me. For many of us who aren't good-looking, dating only becomes possible once we are in our mid to late 20's and have a stable career going. The women who show interest in dating guys like me are interested in settling down and marriage rather than casually dating, hooking up, or 'seeing where things go'. Not sure why this pattern makes you uncomfortable that you need to belittle it by labeling it 'red pill'.
/r/ExRedPill20/06/20 12:45 PM
0

Can you explain why is this retarded?
/r/ExRedPill20/06/20 12:37 PM
2

OP is speaking from the perspective of an average looking guy who cannot attract girls in his late teens and early 20s. For that guy getting a decent career and lifestyle by 28 will increase his options. For attractive/hot guys ot wont make a difference because they can even date and have relationships if they're broke.
/r/ExRedPill20/06/20 02:11 AM
1

The assumption is you have options now and the opportunity to expereince 'bad relationships' to learn from. For guys its a different struggle
/r/ExRedPill20/06/20 02:06 AM
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