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kyjolski/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 06:07 PM
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LOL. Ok, good to know that I used tren or whatever then, I wasn't aware. 'Bodybuilder' my ass. You sound like a typical gym bro who goes on a roid cycle to get any results but doesn't have the slightest idea about anything so ends up injured and deflated, rinse and repeat. Fucking hilarious. I have PT friends with natural physiques that would make you shit your pants if you think mine is 'after several cycles'.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 12:58 PM
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I've never used anything apart from creatine and protein powder. My physique is not even impressive in terms of bodybuilding, because it was never my goal to be one. My genetics are garbage, I put on fat immediately when I stop working out (was fat until 16yo), even if my calorie intake is normal. Building muscle is a fucking abnormal chore compared to my friends who work out. The only reason I look this 'casually' good is because I've been at it on and off for 15+ years (started at 16, am now 3…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 12:52 PM
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Ah, so now it's the 'it's fake' card because I look too good and it disagrees with your notion. Got it. Keep living the dream of lifting and nofap being the solution to everything, lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 12:31 PM
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How would that work? THIS is my physique and it doesn't do anything for me. Do I need to get even more jacked by your logic?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 12:06 PM
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That is exactly who we're talking about when discussing the female privilege of options. Why would we talk about women who admittedly don't want it? They obviously are incapable of perceiving it as a privilege, it's misaligned with their values and desires, so it's a moot point. The people who bring it up are also men who want casual sex, so they are obviously talking about their female counterpart. In the same fashion, men disgusted with casual sex and holding out for a lifelong partner won't m…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 11:33 AM
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You can be socially adjusted and interact well with people/friends and still get nothing because your particular mix of looks/body language/voice/behavior doesn't get pussies wet. Women are emotional and purely hung up on the 'vibe', which is a mix of the aforementioned things and also unconscious attraction markers. Dating is not a meritocracy - it's not revolving around leveling up and being rewarded for effort. Nobody gives a flying fuck about your effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 11:28 AM
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I've never been with a girl I was truly crazy about physically, because I'm a man that's not Chad so I don't have choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 11:03 AM
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The reason why PPD harpies and harpoons will jump down your throat next is to chastise you for even daring to imply such validation has any meaning at all. It obviously means you're not happy with yourself, are mentally ill and abnormal, need therapy etc. Also, what about friends? You just need friends bro. And why do you complain about sex? Can't you fuck a friend in the ass? Why does it have to be a woman? The clown show continues...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 10:23 AM
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So you selected a garbage male, admittedly ignoring red flags, because he made your pussy tingle and now complain that he's garbage because obviously 'all men'? Typical woman ngl.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 10:18 AM
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Men are also looking for compatibility and similar lifestyle when considering LTR because we're also human and that's how humans in general preselect for long term commitment - shocking, I know. At the same time, we don't have the power to have heaps of casual sex, which is what women have - and there's plenty of women taking advantage of that, even if you/random PPD woman personally don't and it doesn't align with your values. Furthermore, being able to have more flings/fuckbuddies/dates usuall…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 10:14 AM
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You might not personally understand this if all that you're currently concerned with is casual sex, but different people have different desires. Which is probably why the uninterested/chaste/demisexual/traditional women of PPD should finally shut up about it and stop speaking for all women. There are plenty of women who partake in casual sex, it's not this mysterious thing in the dark underbelly involving a few broken cumsluts. If you don't want casual sex and are disgusted by options to have it…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 10:01 AM
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PPD seems to have a bunch of people who are damaged goods and somehow have no idea. That is why the same themes keep coming up. The fact this was the summation of all the other things you said - which scream 'damaged goods' - is both a ridiculous and frightening display of no self awareness.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 09:54 AM
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I don't have issues with women being less 'traditionally' feminine, I'm just not sure it's a good idea to emulate behaviors that make certain men insufferable assholes. Then again, it might be the Women are Wonderful bias speaking through me - I guess even if you have a vagina you should be free to be as trashy as you want. Human beings. Yay.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 10:14 PM
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Good for you! I mean it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 09:02 PM
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It works against men on this sub all the time in this form or another, cheered on by most women, so why not? One cannot poison a well that's flowing with excrement.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 08:33 PM
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Well, of course. Dating, especially casual, is not a meritocracy. You either make pussies wet or you don't, and if you don't then no amount of money will change that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 06:48 PM
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My point is certain 'woke' women will refuse to acknowledge any privilege and will reduce everything to a form of sexism. Bad for women = sexism. Good for women = benevolent sexism. There's no point in arguing with them, they are the perpetual victims and despise men as the source of all their misery and failure.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 05:36 PM
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You forgot to mention the height and penis size issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 05:34 PM
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Actually, inb4 'but but but I dont get the attention!' by pitbeard femcels aka the low 5%.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 05:32 PM
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Well it's because: you go guurlll, yaaaassss kweeen!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 05:23 PM
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/thread
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 05:19 PM
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I believe that’s what the feminists call a privilege. No, that's just sexism/objectification for them, and the fact that women can privilege from it doesn't matter. You can't win, it's going to be bad regardless of the outcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 05:10 PM
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No one is expecting that of anyone, but a modecom of self-awareness would be nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 10:19 AM
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Thanks for your life story and projecting what works for you onto everyone else, but not everyone is the same. Some people are obviously okay with only having friends, being sexless virgins until well into adulthood, and then forming a lifelong relationship with 'the one' - and that's fine. Others have different values and sexualities and consider the above an absurd waste of life, as they have other wants - that's fine two. Well, only it's not, at least not on this sub filled with pear clutchin…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 08:59 AM
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I've nothing to add to this, except that other people usually don't want to hang out with depressed people/outcasts/ones that others don't hang out with. It's really easy to spiral down into a negative feedback loop. Social proof is a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 02:59 AM
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If the men these women were having casual sex with wanted a relationship with them, would they refuse? Yes. Yeah, this happens, although a lot of guys on here seem to think that it doesn't and that every man would sleep with as many women as he possibly could in the absence of social and legal consequences. A lot of guys here are weird, same applies to women. We're a merry gang of misfit weirdos, that's the beauty of reddit. I mean, polyamory doesn't nevessarily mean threesome. I meant that it s…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 02:09 AM
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Women have more sexual options than men, because men are less sexually selective. That's why gay men have more sexual options that straight men and lesbians have fewer sexual options than srraight women. I don't think women have more romantic options, at least not by default of being women. As a man, if a woman wants to sleep with you, she probably also wants a relationship with you. Not so the other way around. I hang out in liberal circles where it's normal for women to have casual partners wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 01:14 AM
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I did start there, 10 years ago, but it didn't end well. The pattern was usually that I got to it, went through a few months of rejection, give up due to mental drain, tried again in a few months, repeat. At this point it just feels like a lost cause, and at 33 age is starting to become a factor. Asia was easier because I was a gaijin that wasn't American/British, so there were people just interested in interacting to get to know what's the deal, where I come from, how it's like there etc. Even …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 12:12 AM
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This is... a completely normal way to start a relationship. All relationships are about "luck" to some degree. You have to be lucky enough to meet the person. Correct, I'm not saying that it's not. All I'm saying is that having a relationship does not make you automatically desirable to the opposite sex in general. This is... how dating works for almost everyone on the planet. Male and female. Most people on the planet have no idea what they're doing though, which is why there's so much whining …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 12:01 AM
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That's a funny coincidence - I've been to Japan too, but I actually somewhat speak it, so it wasn't that bad. I'm hoping to go back there and brush up on my rusty Japanese when they open - which may be between a year or never, lol. I understand what you're saying about foreign countries, but I love the life of a digital nomad - constantly experiencing different countries, locations, nature, architecture, culture, food etc. I definitely have a wanderlust within and it makes me happy. I don't thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 11:34 PM
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I've learned to swipe left on women who don't post full body pics and all of their shit is angle game. There was this one time... Apart from that, they sometimes look worse, usually similar, and sometimes better, but I'm only getting a handful of dates per year so my sample is small.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 11:22 PM
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They explode.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 11:19 PM
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I'm definitely a loser, everyone else is good though.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 11:06 PM
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Hey bro, I'm here like only for the entertainment, just poking all of them losers over here with a stick, ya know what I mean? very nervous laugh
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 11:05 PM
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Yes. I know no such people personally. All these happy people are in relationships regularly and have wide social circles. If you're saying that if all that went away and they were left to their own devices they'd still be perfectly happy, then maybe, but somehow I doubt it. Most of them I've seen depressed/down when encountering regular life hurdles.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 10:52 PM
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Wait, so you were in a relationship from 17-22... so you had reason to think you were desirable because you had a girlfriend... It was luck - she was family of my best friend at the time and we got to spend time together. and you're telling me, whose only time in a relationship during those years were the 2 months before and after my 18th birthday, that I don't understand? You did better than I did. I'm sorry. I don't have enough information to know what specifically might be your problem. I mea…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 10:47 PM
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Admittedly, I'm not good with socializing with random strangers. I have a low-key demeanour and dislike forcing my presence on unsuspecting bystanders, especially as most bars I go to people are out with friends enjoying themselves and I'm this only solo guy sipping on a drink. It's not a great environment for me. Due to traveling, there's also often a language barrier - for example, atm I'm in Spain and English is not really widely spoken here at all. Another major factor is that I get nervous/…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 10:24 PM
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I'm 22. So these are my "prime" years that I'm losing/have lost. So the reason I'm asking about age is that at 22 I had no expectation to have a rich love/sexual life. It was when I was dumped after 5 years by my high school sweetheart, who was my first everything. I've had some hope then, that it's going to get better from there onward, and if only I 'self-improve' more I'll have great success. I'm 33 now and turns out it was wishful thinking and that dating and/or sex isn't a meritocracy. My '…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 10:09 PM
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I'd like to preface by saying self-improvement was always a need for me, I enjoy it, I have ability in my own competence in all other areas than humans. Because of this I'm really fit, I'm financially successful (8k$/month, own properties, own stocks), I'm a digital nomad since a few years so well traveled (new country every few weeks), I have hobbies, I'm decently read and informed, finished a good university etc. I did everything myself as I came from small-town poverty. I do a lot of interest…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 08:54 PM
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Why would jerking off be a substitute for family? Did you start one just to get steady pussy? Even as a jab/satire this doesn't make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 08:37 PM
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I don't disagree at all. The problem is I'm not dating, that's the 'invisible' part . I get like 3 dates a year and they are terrible. If I had options to date and get something casual once in a while when riding solo and looking out for a partner if the right one comes along, I'd be perfectly content. I assume this is how it goes for normal people who don't have specific constraints i.e. for religious reasons. Unfortunately, I've no options, which just reinforces the negative thoughts of being …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 08:17 PM
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So you're saying you didn't have a relationship and/or fling for 4.5 years and nobody was interested/showed any attention? Or are you saying you wanted none of that and considered whatever attention 'unwanted'? Also, how old are you, what's your approach on relationships/sex? I can tell you that I was happier when I felt I was at all desirable to the opposite sex, as opposed to when I'm not even considered an option by anyone, for anything. Getting a date is like a holiday and it's usually not a…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 07:55 PM
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I'm a 33M and attracted to women 22-40. It really depends on the woman. Some 30+ yo women who take care of themselves look way better than 20-25 yo girls who don't do shit for their bodies/health. I'm personally a late bloomer, I've peaked near my 30s and am trying to maintain it. That being said I've more or less lived a healthy lifestyle since late high school - dietary habits, sleep, working out, never been an excessive drinker, never smoked cigarettes etc. I also have good genetics (both my …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 05:51 PM
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TIL being 29 is being an 'older man'. PPD is fucking great.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 05:44 PM
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If by hitting it on the head you mean misconstruing the argument to fit your preconceived notions and then proceeding to argue a self-propelled strawman, then yes, I guess you did. Good job buddy, you got me. I won't engage you further since you're a self-admitted PPD troll, which is even worse than a regular reddit troll.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 05:27 PM
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The problem with making a relationship your main source of happiness in life I'm gonna stop you right there because that's not what anyone is advocating. You can have many sources of happiness but if you are treated like you're invisible/garbage by people around you for a prolonged period of time it will poison the well, regardless of how happy other things make you. We're social and sexual animals like that. Well, most of us.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 04:36 PM
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Yeah, I thought it was extremely clear that people who don't want any relationships/flings and yet give people which do advice are dumbs lacking self-awereness. Luckily there's Captain Obvious here to save us.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 03:30 PM
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It's because pussies get wet in response to what's exciting, which are a few main traits like: extraversion/outgoingness, cockiness, unshakable self-confidence, dominance/social aggression/leadership, risk taking, charm etc. The problem is none of these correlate to being a good LTR partner, but at least some of them correlate with narcissistic personalities. That's why you hear so many women complain about 'asshole men' that pumped and dumped them, or turn out to be a mess when taken beyond the…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 12:32 PM
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The only people who say that are either the ones who get laid/into relationships easily, those in long LTRs who undervalue their effect on them, or those that are low libido/give up. Most people who dish out advice on being 'happy with yourself' have never truly been alone for any prolonged time.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 12:11 PM
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Anxiety is not about things being 'unpleasant'.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 01:05 PM
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How to deal with heaps of rejection until this happens, in the context of social anxiety and 20+ years of living with dysthymia? Therapy doesn't help.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 12:00 PM
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Tried, didn't work. Turns out if you're naturally awkward around new people girls don't want to fuck you. Maybe it could work very long term with some support system, but no one really gives AF - I'm a man after all.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 11:01 AM
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You're talking about those orgasms that 81.6% women don't experience? I guess they just didn't meet the Monsters of Cock gang from PPD.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 10:59 AM
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As a person tackling social anxiety basically all my life, and never properly socialized to meet women or people in general, this really reinforces how fucked I am and how nothing else I do really matters in the context of my chances. F.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 10:57 AM
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That is a very inefficient way to get laid unless you are hot, notorious or charming. Yeah, that's the point - it works for Chad. The advice most people give out is 'be more like Chad', that's why cold approaches are promoted. Of course, this is rarely feasible.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 10:54 AM
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People are horrible.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 10:46 AM
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I'm really not, but it seems you guys need to fall back on something. 'Emotional' because some dudes on the internet apparently watched too much porn, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 10:10 AM
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Aren't you? Why did you feel the need to throw shade at guys for using oral as a 'crutch'? I guess their 'stroke game' isn't as strong as my homie over here, eh? You know what's better than a 'decent stroke game'? Good foreplay and making everything throbbing from devouring pussy and then laying the pipe. There's thing thing called the clit that typically responds well to some focused attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 03:24 AM
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You can have whatever hangups about sex you want, I don't really care. Guess now I know where the PPD stories originate from. The ridiculous thing is you sound like you're trying to hype yourself up as this amazing lover that doesn't even need to eat no pussy - the magic touch of the golden staff is enough to make a girl wiiiiild. I guess it's 'normal' in the same way anyone can dislike anything. Hopefully you're engaging with compatible partners who dislike receiving oral sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 03:04 AM
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Right. Having high inhibitions and hangups around a vanilla sex practice is hot af my dawg. Btw it's fine. You don't need to rationalize it as a 'crutch' that lesser men resort to as they aren't wielding the magical golden penis like yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 02:44 AM
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I'm stunned how many women mention eating pussy here like it's the holy grail. Where tf do you find those weirdos who faced with eating pussy are like 'madam, I'd rather not'? To answer the question, I don't care. I'm always trying my best and fortunately have numerous things going for me. I get off by getting my sexual partner off, which I assume is normal for most men who aren't self-absorbed narcissists that use women to masturbate both themselves and their egos.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 01:43 AM
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Having similar values, being attracted to each other on multiple levels (physically and mentally), being able to have intelligent/serious/philosophical conversations but also goof around/banter, sexual compatibility (inhibitions, fantasies, libido etc), good conflict resolution, supportive of each other's goals, no weird jealously/possessiveness, be able to find common outlets to have fun, appreciating each other verbally and via action, avoiding falling for the 'grass is always greener' mindset…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 01:31 AM
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I've had three, all FFM, pretty great, would do it again. I wouldn't mind to date a person with similar experience, quite the contrary - it's more likely we could have fun together. I'm fine with trying FMM, although I'm straight so it would be purely focused on the girl. With the FFMs, usually it's more of a tri-lateral thing, which creates a more engaging experience for everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 01:17 AM
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Not sure what you mean by that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/22 04:09 PM
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If you're not naturally outgoing/very social, and don't take in energy from being around people, you're fucked - figuretively, because you most definitely won't be fucked literally.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/22 01:20 PM
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That doesn't work for anyone with a personality that isn't commonly attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/22 01:17 PM
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You don't need to be married to be happy. :) Definitely. There are some 'perks' I guess, but not really worth it. Most of them can be solved via other legal agreements.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/22 12:15 PM
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This is almost the correct answer. The real one is don't marry.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/22 11:48 AM
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So what you're saying is, if one is not a 'bad boy' then he should be looking to exploit 'humbled' (= emotionally damaged/needing therapy/low self-esteem) women that don't know any better?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/22 10:48 AM
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If you were cool I'd let you couchsurf without sex, but I'm weird like that idk.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/22 08:34 PM
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If anything, it probably just reinforced my misanthropy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/22 08:09 AM
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According to this sub anyone who isn't incel is above average, but that's proven wrong by actual demographic data. I think this sub just has a distorted view of "average". Are you sure? I've been told by this sub numerous times that it's normal and 'average' to just go out and 'make a friend' by people who make '10 new friends a month' and all my dating issues will be solved by 'leaving the house'.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/22 08:06 AM
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/thread
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 09:42 AM
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They're aplenty on reddit because internet, which then stirs discussions like these.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 09:41 AM
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I’m curious why do you men feel like you can’t do this? Because I'm not that good in golf.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 09:38 AM
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I've been leading on my left hand for years, but in the end always give the dick to the right hand.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 03:00 PM
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Gee whiz Mr. OG simp, can you fill in the void of my unhappy childhood and be my father figure? Pretty please sir.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 12:25 AM
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Ok, you convinced me with that one word response. Also, getting PTSD flashbacks from my tinder inbox.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 12:22 AM
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95% of women on OLD who advertise being sarcastic are just jaded mean spirited cows that don't have a shred of wit. Their attempts at sarcasm could be considered sarcastic themselves; it's a whole meta level of unintended sarcasm. Getting back to the premise of OP, yeah, consistently not being able to pick up on normal conversation elements is off-putting and weird. In other news, water is wet.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 12:20 AM
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WDYM? Quite the contrary, it seems full of people who just go out of the house randomly and 'make friends'.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 12:15 AM
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In Europe, no one gives a shit if you live in an intergenerational household. They don't?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 09:22 AM
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Awwww, a young, naive bluepiller. How adorable! Come'er ya little scamp pinches cheek!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 01:06 AM
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I don't understand how this isn't just common sense. It is. Stating common sense as some kind of revelation is this sub's specialty.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 06:45 PM
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How much income do I need for pussies to start getting wet?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 09:50 AM
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Well, that was pointless.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 08:34 AM
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What a boring life, most guys don't go to the gym, most guys don't meditate or journal, they don't do NoFap and they don't do self improvement. Could you be more cliche?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 08:32 AM
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:D This sub never fails to impress.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/22 08:57 PM
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If it's a question to those who prefer a SAHM, then the answers should be obvious - pursuing a full time career will not be that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/22 08:49 PM
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This post reeks of bad fate more than a sweaty hairy armpit. I personally think a lot of guys underestimate how much work women put into their appearance (and I’m not just talking about “deceptive” stuff like makeup). But maybe I’m wrong. Yeah, you're wrong. It's more of a 'a lot of guys I hang out with' situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/22 06:49 PM
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If the convo was 'meh' after a 'few dates' then both parties will likely realize this unless one side is severely socially misadjusted. A lot of ghosting happens prior to a date.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/22 06:35 PM
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Yeah, that's not what I'm talking about. Also, no idea what 'lack of chemistry' means in the context or a written chat conversation with a stranger. 95% women I've matched on OLD 'converse' using one word replies.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/22 04:57 PM
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IDK, why do women complain after being pumped and dumped? I mean it's not like they are entitled to a man's company once he blows her back out. Could it be... normal human decency and balls to tell someone you're not interested? Since you enjoy comparisons to real life situations - let's say you get introduced to someone at a party but want to go somewhere else, do you just turn around during someone's mid sentence and walk away? Also, gotta laugh at the 'company' thing in the context of OLD - 9…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/22 04:55 PM
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So as usual, all PPD women are saints and would never do that unless the guy was just a seriously abusive creep! This shit is like a standup routine at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/22 03:48 PM
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Yeah, but I'm not the things you listed.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/22 01:13 PM
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The marriage obsession of some of the people in this sub is cute AF.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/22 08:59 AM
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Tough crowd.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/22 07:56 PM
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What if I'm a washed up TV sitcom actor at best? Is it okay to just be horsing around?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/22 06:44 PM
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Being 'well dressed' is completely subjective. There's a whole lot of people who would find your outfit boring/laughable, and vice versa. but make no effort to stand out in the easiest way possible, This is just a weird assumption, apparently you have a very specific idea of what it means to 'dress well'. Like I said - good for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/22 06:38 PM
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Is this a humble brag about dressing sharp on a budget? Good for your bro, stay fresh.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/22 05:27 PM
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So you're saying a man dating a woman is hard, but a woman dating a woman is much harder? Gee, I wonder why... could it be... women? gasp My male gay friends seem to be doing well.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/22 03:55 PM
4

Macropenis, that's a good one.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/22 03:49 PM
2

This is common sense and true for all well-adjusted women and men - not sure what you want challenged here.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 06:34 PM
1

Alright my shapeless entity homie in Cthulhu.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 06:29 PM
-1

Not gonna lie - the amount of triggered women in this thread who clearly require a 200 page manual and the latest Clitblater 9000 on full throttle to cum is giving me a serious boner. ... wait, that might be too specific a setting for me to get off. Aaaaaw shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 04:38 PM
1

My N-count is 7, including 3 FFM threesomes, which were great. I definitely want more and also to experience other things but alas, my luck for this life probably dried up.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 12:34 PM
2

Apparently she has a thing for possessive men which logically implies men are possessive because things.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 10:27 AM
1

My endearing nonbinary person in Satan, of course a made up human construct won't betray you - it does not have the agency to do so. The insecurity thing though... pretty sure lots of religious canon is solely designed to prey on those.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 10:24 AM
2

A direct comparison was not the point. I'd be willing to be poorer if I had better sexual prospects, but I suspect it's a case of wanting more strongly what one doesn't have. Mayhaps were I an actual male sex--haver I would see things differently. I do appreciate the money though.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 08:05 AM
2

If you like sex and have no moral hangups about it then being able to obtain it is essential for long term well being. I am not talking about a 'hoe phase' as I don't believe that concept.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 08:01 AM
1

OP isn't talking about sleeping around though, that's the thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 01:02 AM
4

It's like saying money doesn't matter when you're rich because you're sad. In both instances, money/fucking is probably not the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 12:16 AM
1

Well, IT is a very wide spectrum of jobs, from more to less technical, and if you 'hate' it then I guess you're not fit for a computerized society. If you're not good at it then git gud. Anyway, I know a lot of people who went into marketing, finance, sales without any formal degrees in those (they learned themselves, hurray internet/books/hands on experience). 90% of people in my 55 person IT department don't have engineering degrees. The people I know who finished a degree and then actually ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 12:08 AM
1

Most god jobs require a degree. They really don't. Times changed. It's all about skill and what you bring to the table. Obviously excluding jobs that absolutely require extensive formal training i.e. doctor, lawyer etc. Nowadays it's all about IT. I work in IT and earn as much as specialized doctors in my country, and I don't even have an engineering degree LOL. My point is that the ego and desire are at the center of human motivation Desire is fine. I am talking about overcompensating for insec…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/22 11:58 PM
1

Sure, but some things are more of a waste of time than others. I've seen countless people do degrees without even knowing why, and not even doing anything with them later career wise, because it was expected they do one. I guess it's anyone's choice to be a mindless drone conforming to society. Also: If it weren't for ego, I probably woudnt get out of bed. I'm sorry, hopefully it'll get better. I would recommend therapy/psychodelics/meditation/retreats.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/22 11:45 PM
5

There are also people that fuck(ed) around and regret nothing because they were/are having a blast.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/22 11:43 PM
3

I've always valued personality and never subscribed to the 'visual', not past middle school anyway. Either I grew up fast or this stereotypical meme needs to die.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/22 11:40 PM
1

Except for a group of select professions, a degree doesn't really mean shit. Too often people are doing it for their egos in a misguided attempt to bolster their poor self-esteem. I don't think it puts you in the beta category, I think it doesn't matter unless you are actually remarkable and excel at what you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/22 11:35 PM
4

Baited.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/22 11:28 PM
0

I assumed it obvious 80/20 refered to casual sex and being able to consistently lay the pipe/get in various relationships with women (short and long term). I don't think it refers to 80% of men being virgin, or schmucks that get settled on to knock up someone who's out of time, or highly religious people whose sole objective is to marry and pump out more deluded children.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/22 11:23 PM
4

I'm not 'whining' - I've had sexual experience that's likely outside or the realm of the majority of men. I also have no issue with taking full accountability for being my worst enemy in life across the board. None of this change the fact that OP is garbage content regurgitating the 'basement dwellers only want playboy models' meme. It's good you at least have the common sense to not try to defend the indefensible.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/22 12:11 AM
5

Yeah, my entitlement to not reach ridiculous low-effort garbage on this sub on a daily basis. I'd suggest to grow up and actually learn something about anything - might increase your post quality, as well as enable better comebacks than 'no it's you'.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 11:54 PM
5

Another weirdo that thinks he cracked the code with 'data' straight from his ass. Creme de la creme PPD.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 11:48 PM
1

No, it's not. I don't expect you to understand as you never had any other experience and it would require a modecom of empathy to grasp - the lack of which you've already revealed in your previous 'advice'.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 11:35 PM
1

Basically over the hill.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 08:27 PM
2

You can't make this shit up. I wonder who's the better sex instructor though - Google or Siri?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 12:58 PM
11

Inb4 women: 'but we don't want to!' Inb4 wannabe Chads: 'pull yourself by your bootstraps, do you even lift bro?'
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 12:57 PM
3

They give you a pass for being a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 12:54 PM
2

As for the act, you can turn off the light and close your eyes and pretend it’s the gender you desire. Speak for yourself. Your entire response is ridiculous bad faith drivel.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 12:44 PM
1

This is not the problem. I can form human attachments - that's why I have friends and had previous relationships. The problem is that 99.9% of women don't give a shit about my existence and do not care for even the initial interaction, therefore forming the attachment is impossible - it requires the involvement of two people.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 12:17 PM
-1

An average man wants a slim, pleasant partner? He’s going to have to put in some work. Just stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 12:08 PM
7

Because being gay is a choice amirite? This sub, I swear.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 12:05 PM
0

Bold of you to assume they want to hang out.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 11:57 AM
3

Instead of going to self check out go to a lane with a cashier and talk to them bs standing diligently as they ring you up. If you’re waiting in line for something, talk to the people around you vs playing on your phone. America is a strange country. I guess it's the 'how are you' mentality. If you did this in most of Europe you'd be considered a weirdo pestering random people while they are trying to go about their business.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 11:52 AM
1

I have them, I enjoy them, I don't consider them romantic prospects, it's fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 04:59 PM
1

I have them, I enjoy them, I don't consider them romantic prospects, it's fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 04:59 PM
2

I have them, I enjoy them, I don't consider them romantic prospects, it's fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 04:59 PM
0

Of course you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 04:55 PM
-3

I mean sure, you can choose to be however paranoid/judgemental/biased as you want based on you previous trauma - it's your life and your will be the one to ultimately face the consequences. In fact, everyone is free to be the biggest unhinged asshole ever so far as no laws are broken and rights violated - that wasn't really my point though.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 03:37 PM
6

If you go by this sub then 90% of women were raped/assaulted at least once in their life, usually more, and when going to the police they encountered the following response: 'well I guess ya dressed like a skank spits in bucket get outta here before we make u suck some real dick, right boys? yeeeeehaaaw' - policeman Take it with a brick of salt.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 03:32 PM
-4

I don't have time to hold anyone's hand while they grapple with the fact that trauma influences behavior. There's therapy for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 03:30 PM
2

Yeah, some people care, like apparently yourself, and obviously my ancestors. I guess they fucked up their job seeing as it will end on me - joke's on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 03:24 PM
1

No, it doesn't matter to me that a person I've never met has my 'name'. Just as I know nothing about my distant ancestors, nor do I care. Also, one cosmic fart is all it takes for this entire thing to be over.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 03:09 PM
1

I don't care for legacy or the survival of my family. In the grand scheme of things it is meaningless.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 02:47 PM
1

May I ask why would I care about the dating life of a person that may potentially exist in a few dozen/hundred years and have no actual connection with me?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 02:40 PM
7

Definitely, and the bar for stupid is quite high.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 02:38 PM
43

Check this guy's post history, it's not his first time bringing this up here and elsewhere - he's basically a repressed cuck projecting his insecurities.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 02:34 PM
1

He reminds me of a nicer, successful-gentleman version of red pill. chuckles You dodged a bullet.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 02:22 PM
0

Lol, savage.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 10:17 PM
5

Savage. You're not wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 08:05 PM
77

N counts matter for people who care about N counts.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 07:04 PM
3

It's okay, I forgive you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 06:56 PM
1

Because he would know the answer to this obvious question and/or be busy actually meeting women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 06:49 PM
2

I don't think a person with 'reasonable social skills' would be asking on PPD if joining a hobby/interest group will be good to meet women. I may be assuming myself here, but you know, just saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 06:35 PM
7

I mean, was I the one who started with an outlandish clickbaity statement, or was it you?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 06:05 PM
2

Not really, I’ve been that person. Your experience is not universal. You can be relatively introverted and still know how to interact in social situations, and form new relationships. Sure, but attracting women as a male is different that vice-versa. Of course if you are unsociable to the point of not being able to communicate with strangers entirely, that is a much bigger issue. How then can you even develop a relationship if you managed to find the woman you like? You don't have to be that to …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 06:03 PM
19

I like how you claim dating is 'easy' and then go on an extended rant explaining how most people make it difficult (hence not 'easy').
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 05:40 PM
1

It's not that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 05:32 PM
2

😂 fair enough!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 02:21 PM
2

The choice of analogy was... interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 02:17 PM
0

Once again sire, I am sorry to have offended. Have I known we had such fine gentlemen here I would have curtailed my behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 02:06 PM
0

Sorry my 'debating' style did not suit your taste.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 01:47 PM
1

What's my 'ilk'?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 12:47 PM
1

That says a whole lot more about you than anybody else. People like you are the cancer that will end this world.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 12:42 PM
7

What you consider reprehensible is your business. Keep it to yourself and let people live their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 12:33 PM
3

Well of course - you're only okay with shitting on people if they do something you disagree with, after all.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 12:24 PM
8

but we can reduce the chances by having some stigma around casual sex. How about we have some stigma against your ridiculous outdated values which outstayed their welcome in society?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 12:19 PM
13

It's as effective as any other social interaction. If you don't get along with new people quickly and easily, it will not be effective.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/22 01:21 PM
18

People focus more on themselves and don't care about getting into relationships as much, and those that want to do it eventually are postponing it to later. Casual and hedonism is more widely accepted. Feminism and all of the powers focused on empowering women are nurturing a philosophy of 'girl, you don't need no man'. Women are vastly overvaluing themselves due to social media, popular culture and simps. They are a developing an 'all or nothing' mentality towards sex, relationships. Men are mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/22 09:19 AM
19

'Job prospects' as 'life meaning' is ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 09:00 PM
0

What are those 'HVM' that you know like? Are they 'high value' beta providers?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 05:25 PM
3

It was pure chance, and the bitterness eventually came back tenfold when the love was over - rinse and repeat.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 04:38 PM
3

Oof.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 10:58 PM
6

It never fails to surprise me how seemingly 90% of PPD users have a rape/murder/abuse story. We need Sherlock Holmes up in this bitch ASAP, it's basically CSI Miami.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 06:13 PM
8

Probably because the former hang out with more women on a regular basis and are thus able to create more opportunities, not to mention they have the underlying factor of sharing a common interest? Does this really need explaining?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 05:09 PM
0

Unsafe people can appear safe for extended periods of time. This is not common, unless someone decides to purposefully ignore red flags. Also, the solution is not major distrust towards everyone bordering on paranoia about one's own safety. All people should avoid high risk behavior and take reasonable precautions to protect themselves, including defense training with acceptable legal self defense options in your jurisdiction. Agreed.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 05:05 PM
0

Ok?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 04:19 PM
-4

I have no idea what you are trying to argue by regurgitating my original post, but okay, sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 04:18 PM
4

It's possible to not be abusive and also not be a pussy. Crazy notion, I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 03:57 PM
14

Yeah, but you can move that goalpost forever - a cunning psychopath might as well act for several weeks/months just to kill you. Despite it being possible it is not probable.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 03:51 PM
39

I understand women's fears, but I am also a gentle and well adjusted person that keeps his hands to himself and respects boundaries, so I don't do anything on a date to warrant 'not feeling safe'. If a woman still feels 'unsafe' that means she has issues based on previous trauma and should seek therapy and not dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 03:39 PM
2

I wasn’t this old when I was on OLD chuckles and I had very sad men nowhere near my league hitting on me, as well as men in my league and a few so far out of my league I decided they were most likely scammers. I guess the league thing is subjective, but this is OLD - it's a weird environment full of scamming, posturing and toxic people. What I was talking about was the meme of a basement dweller shunning an average girl - who is still leagues above him in attraction - because he is strictly focu…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 03:13 PM
2

I'm not sure what you are arguing then. I was talking about basement dwellers only chasing 9s, and ur an average older chick that brought up the very specific environment of OLD to prove... dunno what exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 02:43 PM
3

That's normal on social media, 90% of those guys are Hindi or some repressed 3rd world country dudes dreaming about exotic (from their POV) liberal pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 02:04 PM
8

No, maybe because I follow a total amount of zero Instagram models 🤷
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 12:57 PM
2

Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 12:00 PM
0

I don't know what to tell you then. I've seen it whenever 'standards' are discussed. What I've never seen is a basement dweller strictly pursuing Victoria's Secret models.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 11:59 AM
10

Some people are just delusional though. If a 4/10 dude is only going after 9/10s, of course he should lower his standards. This doesn't happen. The 'lower your standards' card is usually played on this sub when a slim/fit dude dares to say he doesn't want to fuck a landlocked whale etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 11:55 AM
9

I think this might be because women are romanticized in culture as being the loving ones etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 11:46 AM
6

I have a lot of shit going on according to the standards you've presented here but women don't 'love' me. Whatever I have going on for myself they don't give a fuck. This is not uncommon, I see guys in a similar position all the time. So no, women don't 'love men who impress them'. They want the men they are already into for other nebulous reasons to impress them. They will also delude themselves into being impressed by 'potential' if the guy is hot enough but doesn't have much going on for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 11:35 AM
0

Dunno. Haven't watched any porn since 3 weeks, no fapping was done over this period as well. Are you saying I can't get laid because all the potential girls are too busy rubbing their clits to porn? Shit, that might be it!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/22 05:33 PM
3

I don't think so. I've been in relationships most of my adult life, which some may consider 'success', but currently I've been single and haven't gotten laid since 1.5 years and there's no indication this will change in the foreseeable future. While I am very successful in other parts of life that matter to me, there is definitely an underlying saltiness about not having a sex life - as I am quite sexual, low inhibition and liberal in this department. There is no dogma or moral paradigm that wou…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 07:04 PM
6

Sure do. You can also cross your swords, tug on each other, maybe give a friendly ball lick, all of the good stuff. Totally not repressing anything. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 10:44 AM
1

You’re not above average. And you’re certainly not average. I am doe :'(
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 09:00 PM
0

You'd know I'm sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 07:26 PM
0

He's just a mad compa living the thug life.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 03:07 PM
1

Alright, not sure if I can relate.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 02:57 PM
1

I'm an accidental child of a 38 schoolteacher cougar and her former student 20yo, obviously it didn't last, so you're guess is as good as mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 10:35 AM
0

but if you have a naturally attractive personality, you’ll get attention as well. So if I don't it's all over, right? I'm naturally introverted/quiet, which is not attractive - the extravert socializer always wins in social situations and gets all the attention regardless of other factors. I've changed it a lot for the better over the years, but there is a limit - at the end of the day I am who I am.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 09:11 AM
3

it’s better to be around more people and not on your ps4 playing 2k all day whilst complaining. So I guess it's not really 'get a hobby'. It's 'get a hobby that forces constant and varied social interaction'. Getting a hobby that's mostly solo, or in male groups, or in small/stable groups won't do much.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 09:07 AM
20

Currently not doing anything as a 'strategy', because doing it for a long time without any results seriously fucked with my head. I obviously do things like gym and self-improvement, but strictly for myself and to improve my own well being/quality of life.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 11:16 PM
2

Wouldn't be surprised if they were mostly American - the hypocritical puritanism over there is truly adorable.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 11:13 PM
20

Yeah, you're right. I went from fat to ripped and nothing changed in my dating life. Why? Because I'm a quiet person, I'm not extroverted and constantly dancing for attention and trying to socialize. I'm mostly invisible, so when I got ripped, I was just invisible but with an 8 pack. Gym can genuinely help people who are already able to socialize well and easily build circles - suddenly it will be noticeable that you got hotter, which may procure a different kind of attention (especially if you …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 10:15 PM
4

You know people with no aspirations for life and have partners? Well I know no one like that 😩. Literally 90% of society. You might want to realize that your personal information bubble might not be a valid representation of reality. Most people's 'goals' revolve around money, what said money can buy, and toiling away at mundane jobs to chase it. Their daily lives are mundane, monotonous and predictable. Maybe I misunderstood your post and the above paragraph would fit under what you consider 'a…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 09:49 PM
1

traveling (I'm a digital nomad since a few years) photography (travel, street, cityscape, landscape) working out/gym (since 16 years now) chess (played since a child, including competitions) languages (studied English since a child, then Japanese in college, currently Spanish, I'd like others eventually) movies (a lot into the classics, have gone through entire works of many directors etc) gaming (used to play an eSports game competitively, nowadays it's mostly RPGs for a good story or turn-base…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 09:55 PM
3

Hey man, hope for the best but prepare for the worst.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 09:26 PM
2

Objective probably, but that's because I had a toxic childhood and never had a family support network - so I simply don't know how to provide/receive comfort. If anything, it's comforting enough if someone is willing to listen and puts any effort into actually trying to understand the issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 09:25 PM
1

Sounds like the usual snake oil I've read dozens of time before. Seriously, replace names and minor keywords and it could be a XYZ coach template.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 09:18 PM
1

IDK, sounds like insane rambling and reading too much into things to satisfy your preconceived notions.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 09:14 PM
1

A lot of trolling here today, even for PPD standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 09:04 PM
4

Personally I'm a -3 and won't settle for anything less than playboy material.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 08:38 PM
1

Wait, don't you know all PPD women are amazing/high value and deserve - no, are entitled to - nothing but the very best? Get with the program bud.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 12:00 AM
1

Yes, I do. No, it doesn't affect my perspective. Most of them are nice as friends but their attitude towards sex/romance is insane, immature and/or toxic. Some of them do crazy shit and continuously get into ridiculous situations, never thinking they are to blame in any capacity. Sometimes I'll point something out and get 'huh, I've never looked at it that way'.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 10:09 PM
3

For exmaple, he said that gohsting is very much a North American thing - it does not happen in France. Over there, he said, people would have the guts to meet up and talk why they wish to end their connection and not just randomly cut contact. I find this highly implausible. Source: born and raised in Europe and visited most of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 08:25 PM
6

I talk with my friends about how heartbroken they are over girls, or how they're worried about their moms. Wholesome.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 08:26 PM
5

'Chad' is a running joke and meme. It's basically an overblown caricature of a real phenomenon - that a lot, maybe most, women can be swayed to do anything for a guy that's good looking and confident enough, even against their better judgement. It's 'Chad' because that's the stereotypical stupid asshole jock that gets all the girls trope that's been around since forever (at least the 90s). Take it with a grain of salt.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 06:42 PM
3

Yeah, IDGAF about 'child bearing', and this is increasingly the case in western societies. I don't agree that: Also money, protection, and emotional support comes from society at large at this point. It's a ridiculous claim. What kind of money comes from society - peanuts from social care? What kind of protection - the police that might as well shoot you? What kind of emotional support? Strangers telling you to hang in there and social media simps are not emotional support.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/22 08:51 PM
2

I do believe commited relationships benifit men a bit more then women In what way? Usually the major benefit is pussy in exchange for money, time, emotional support, protection, whatever is expected of a so-called 'real man'. Sure, women also can fall into established gender roles and tasks connected to them, but this is decreasing in frequency since many years due to feminism/egalitarianism (which I think is good btw).
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/22 08:34 PM
1

Bizarre question. What do you mean 'go out of my way'? If I want to talk to someone it means I have a reason to or am just interested in the person. With women, this reason/interest may or may not be sexual - I would say 90% of the time it's not. Sometimes, especially when I'm traveling, it's simply to interact socially and do something fun/spend time together with hopefully like-minded people. Obviously, if the girl turns out interesting and I start feeling attraction, I will have thoughts of e…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/22 05:48 PM
1

Unfortunately I've no idea what you're talking about @reference. I'm just saying OP sending unsolicited dick picks and not getting a positive reaction doesn't mean that women are disgusted by dick. It means they are disgusted with his dick because he's not attractive enough for said women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 12:33 PM
1

The Chad element was a meme. Basically if a girl is super attracted to you the dick pic will be welcome or brushed off. If she's not attracted or on the fence it's unwelcome. The proverbial Chad is more likely to have chicks super attracted to him, is all.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 10:20 AM
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Are you sure? You kind of sound like a loser. Alright champ. It's common knowledge that the dating market is better in many foreign countries than it is in America. It's also common knowledge that many Americans and other western nationalities partake in extensive sex tourism and praying on poverty. Why are you trying to discourage American men from finding foreign women? I don't give one shit and two fucks about America and American men. They can do whatever they like. If a random Reddit post i…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 03:05 AM
1

Oh, I thought it was universal, but now we're quantifying. I don't think rich good looking dudes with game struggle anywhere. I'm above average physically and well off. I don't have 'game' but I'm decently socially adjusted - kinda comes with the whole digital nomad territory.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 06:25 PM
1

Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 05:36 PM
1

I didn't notice any difference in treatment by women across the about 30 countries I've visited so idk.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 05:36 PM
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Getting a girlfriend will happen eventually by pure happenstance, I see it all the time, so I wouldn't worry too much about that and just focus on doing your thing and trying to meet people along the way. In terms of hooking up though, you are fucked.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 10:06 AM
2

I never worried about either.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 10:03 AM
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Women are only repulsed by dick of men they don't find attractive. Chad dick is fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 10:02 AM
1

At this point those guys would be better off finding foreign women and traveling(once travel opens up again which it should soon). Location turning an awkward unsuccessful dude into a playboy is some weird meme, it doesn't work. Or are you just referring to sex tourism? I don't think that's what most men are after.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 09:36 AM
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Yeah. I have female friends. Some of them I find attractive, but I don't suffer any urges or whatever because my feelings of friendship get in the way - it's kinda like you can admit a family member is attractive but you don't want to fuck him/her, you know? It's just a different kind of relationship altogether. Well, maybe not in Alabama.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 08:45 AM
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Yeah, I have 3 'closer' female friends whom I enjoy talking to and spending time with. They are all in relationships and I am also on friendly terms with the boyfriends, we spend time together or separately. I would say it's a nice counterbalance to otherwise very mixed romantic experiences, not to mention the abundant hostility and toxicity of the internet/reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 12:48 PM
1

Thanks. I've actually always wanted to be a slut, possibly poly or in an open relationship, but it always ended up in mostly vanilla relationships with expectations of monogamy. Whenever I revealed my true wants to friends, the guys wouldn't care and the girls would immediately judge/chastise me, even though all of them themselves hooked up before, lol. I'm not too hopeful at this point - despite delusions that redpillers feed themselves, it does NOT get better for guys with age. If I couldn't p…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 11:43 AM
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I'm 33 and never had an ONS per se, despite being a sex-positive person with extremely low inhibitions. I have no moral judgement of people based on their preferences, sexual or otherwise, as long as they don't involve hurting other unwilling people in the process. As someone who hasn't gotten laid in 1.5 years and without any prospects of this happening, I'd rather avoid calling myself a slut so as not to shatter the tiny bits of dignity I have left, lol. At this point it would be a self-mockin…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 11:20 AM
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Unfortunately, I've always been considered boyfriend material and am now also getting too old to be considered anything else. It's cool that it works out for your boyfriend I guess. It never made a difference in my case whether I was looking and expecting something or not, there were no 'cool experiences'. So yeah, you might as well tell me to fly. It's not asif I wouldn't like to.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 10:56 AM
1

I see. Must be nice. I'd like to be a slut.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 08:58 AM
2

I'm confused. So are they slut shaming you or disappointed that you're not enough of a slut?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 08:30 AM
1

Your point is fabricated exaggeration, it's not just 'my experience', but keep telling yourself that reality looks like this: https://youtu.be/W6aDlt7-pOc
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 08:27 AM
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No gender is waking around saying their exact requirements especially to people they are just dating. Ive definitely heard convos like this with my ex’s male friends. I am not sure what you mean. I'm a man and have male and female friends offline and online and have talked to many people casually about dating, sex and relationships, as well as heard second hand accounts. The only people I heard unironically entertaining the idea of super specific physical requirements were the aforementioned nar…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 05:14 AM
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I don’t know why the simple statement that women are more shallow puts y’all in such a tizzy. Probably because it's exposing a touchy truth that causes cognitive dissonance. That, and most women nowadays are aspiring Kweens that don't take well to any form of criticism, however thinly veiled.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 05:09 AM
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Why do men whistle and catcall at women on the street? We aren't living in American movies from the 60s. I've literally witnessed this maybe a handful of times in my life and almost always it came from low quality men, i.e. some random middle-aged or older drunk construction workers.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 05:02 AM
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Jaded much, huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 05:00 AM
1

Having breast or butt a certain size. Expecting a certain figure I don't think I've ever met a man who openly admitted to having such specific requirements, lol. Maybe some narcissistic pseudo-Chad douchebag with an overinflated ego. In the area I live, men are definitely chasing after the hourglass big butt body type. Is this the US? It sure sounds like the modern American rap/r'n'b meme.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 04:57 AM
1

Are you talking about autistic wannabe redpillers who channel their lack of success with women into a conservative, puritan, traditional set of values that they would abandon as soon as they had options to fuck around?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 04:43 AM
1

I think no one is entitled to my time nor resources and neither should be expected/taken for granted. This swings both ways obviously. Bills should go 50/50, it's just common sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 02:16 AM
3

A young Chad can grow into an older Chad with money. A young beta can grow into an older beta with money. The X/Y/Z-maxxing is a convenient way to avoid swallowing the blackpill. Well, I guess it can help landing a LTR - an impressive resume will surely sway a lot of chicks looking for 'stability' and willing to overlook whatever was the reason our young (or, old) hero couldn't get laid before achieving so called 'status'.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 08:37 PM
1

Another di... I mean, brick in the wall.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 02:24 PM
1

Once she told me that her man "was like Borat" it clicked for me a little bit. Veri noice, yeeez double thumbs up
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 02:16 PM
1

Username checks out.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 02:13 PM
2

What's his number? If he's willing to take me to Home Depot I might be willing to reconsider this whole heterosexual thing...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 02:11 PM
1

What about his lips doe?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 02:07 PM
1

I don't expect them to, unless that is the level they are themselves presenting - in which case I still don't expect them to, as many women are entitled and have women-are-wonderful induced delusions of grandeur. Also, having all of what you described is not a recipe for attraction. There's plenty of guys who have their shit together and struggle, and plenty of those that don't and are extremely successful sexually.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 02:01 PM
1

I'm not particularly obsessed with the size of either. I like'em petite 🤷
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 01:47 PM
1

Watch out, he's a fine gentleman participating in Facebook burbon groups. Class act.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 05:53 AM
5

Cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 01:14 AM
5

I’m not sure why this is so hard for so many here to understand. It's not. What seems to be hard to understand is that spitting common sense and projecting your own values into every discussion is neither clever nor does it illuminate anything. There’s a reason there’s no market for heterosexual male prostitutes. Based on the rest of your post, the reason is not what you think it is. NSA sex is just not what women generally want. I don't know what women 'generally' want. Almost all my female fri…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 07:24 PM
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Many of us detest "FWB and ONS" And many of you don't. There are also men that do. What's your point? If you detest it then you're obviously in the group that is outside of the scope of this discussion. We are not men. Um... okay? Using other humans as sentient dildos doesn't appeal to me whatsoever. Despite your misguided opinion of casual sex (= it's all based on egotistically 'using' and mistreating someone), that's not what I am talking about. We don't orgasm. I'm sorry. Men are awful to wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 07:20 PM
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I don't really see any solutions to this though, Me neither, hence I'm not asking for any. aside from these unsatisfied men to improve themselves to the point they can acquire those thigs. This doesn't work. Women don't select men for casual sex based on their amount of 'self-improvement'. Even with self-improvement though, they're probably not going to be ONS material for most women, even if they might have other great relationship qualities. Yes. If you want sex delivered, hookers are an optio…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 06:04 PM
1

Have we merely grown tired of the people here? You almost nailed it, just remove the 'here' and 'the'.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 03:32 PM
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It's not that they disagree, it's that they are salty, because: I can hook up, I can date, I can flirt guilt free. most men cannot. I agree that being single is great and preferable to a sub-standard relationship. I'm very honest in my requirements for a potential LTR, don't think it's worth my freedom/effort otherwise, and I don't string people along with false promises at all. Unfortunately, since I'm not an outgoing Chad, staying single and honest about it basically means being sexless. For s…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 03:24 PM
2

These are not mutually exclusive concepts.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 03:17 PM
2

He's too busy having sex to stop and read. He's just throwing a quick sideways glance between slapping cheeks.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 03:15 PM
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Your manliness makes me hard Matt.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 03:02 PM
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The reason isn’t “at least I won’t be single”. It’s that people aren’t perfect and the good outweighs the bad. I literally said that 'perfect' is unreasonable. It is also unreasonable to accept too much 'bad', which a lot of people are doing precisely because they aren't able to stay happy single. So you only like someone if they literally check every single box for you! I can 'like' someone just fine without wanting to enter into an intimate relationship and share my life with the person. For t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 07:39 PM
1

This can apply and you’re still settling unless they’re literally perfect (hint: no one is) I don't consider it settling. For me settling would be looking at someone and being able to produce a list of shortcomings/things that annoy me but turning a blind eye to them because 'at least I won't be single'. I'm not obsessed about some arbitrary 'perfection' - if I'm into someone that means I'm into someone and all vital checks/requirements have been fulfilled.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 06:39 PM
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It's not really a system, just common sense and the lack of any paternal instincts - I am 33 and never felt the need to have children. I may consider adopting a child in the future, like my mid-late 40s, just because I'm well off financially and potentially see myself as giving a home to an underprivileged child. We will see, maybe I will not want this after all, or the system will make it impossible because I'm a man (= a predator in the eyes of modern society). Anyway, it's normal for desire a…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 06:10 PM
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That's fine, it's your choice. Also, I never said anything about 'just raw sexual desire', quite the opposite. For a relationship to be worth it to me there has to be raw sexual desire, a compatible personality and common values/approach to life.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 05:54 PM
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Fair enough. I'm an above average man, and didn't feel like I had to settle - the people I've been with were people I loved and wanted to be with. I was attracted to them and enjoyed their company. Being single is fine. I am reminded of this after every shitty date with boring/shallow/entitled women. Since I'm not Chad Thundercock socially, getting casual is extremely hard, so the no-sex aspect of singledom can be a bit annoying, but otherwise - I'm pretty content being single indefinitely.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 03:41 PM
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Yes, I am, since 1.5 years, after spending the previous 12 out of 15 years in relationships (4 LTRs). It's pretty great, especially as I've been a digital nomad since a few years. Settling for someone whom I am not mutually attracted to and who can't/won't participate in my lifestyle would be a ridiculous act of self-harm. I guess if someone's a boring fuck sitting at home and hating his life then any pussy will be some kind of solace via codependency.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 03:38 PM
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Tell me you settled without telling me you settled.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 03:11 PM
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In my experience women don't give a fuck about awkward men they don't know, and quickly disengage/ignore them - and we ARE talking about the context of approaching women, not 'people in general'. Literally no one is interested in going beyond the 'awkward beginning' - most people judge a book by its cover, there is a reason why there's a saying that you can't make a first impression twice. My prescription is to either engage in serious therapy and try to change the social aspect of their persona…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 03:03 PM
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The point I'm making is that according to PPD women your own qualities and wants as a man are irrelevant - you should be happy to bend over backwards for the lowest hanging fruit and never utter a single complaint. Also, nobody 'deserves' a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 12:03 PM
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You're preaching to the choir, PPD chicks will immediately tell you to lower your standards and go after obese, disabled, economically disadvantaged single mothers.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 03:56 AM
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video games and social networking fades out Ah, I see who I'm dealing with. Like, I'm a member of a couple of local bourbon groups on facebook. Ok boomer. Good for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 10:40 PM
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An even bigger problem is telling people who are awkward and socially inept by design (nature and/or nurture) to 'talk to people'. If you think this will end well then I don't know what to tell you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 08:51 PM
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Most average people get into LTRs eventually via social circles or pure happenstance. Starting a family or getting married is only 'success' biologically, or for people grasping at straws. Most such arrangements burn down in spectacular fashion - check out divorce rates and look around for anectodal evidence of mostly unhappy marriages filled with drama. I think being 'successful in dating' means having many options and the ability to only commit to truly compatible/desirable partners - when and…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 02:07 PM
2

But I now realize that was like catching lightning in a bottle, and I've become more cynical. Yep, I think this sums it up well. My outlook on finding the person is just negative due to constant disappointment when 'trying'.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 04:46 PM
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With guys there's always hope that you're going to find someone great someday, maybe tomorrow. Absolutely delusional. Most single men, including myself, are sick of/cynical towards women regardless of their own attractiveness levels.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 09:43 AM
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/thread
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 09:20 AM
4

What are you talking about? Aren't we all here just for entertainment, like yourself? shocked Pikachu
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 04:54 PM
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Right, I'm sure I did. Keep on spinning the dramatic exaggerations.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 01:50 PM
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And we all know porn = the rape of children. Yes, this is a totally rational argument made in good faith. Not emotionally manipulative gaslighting at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 01:28 PM
1

I agree that in a lot of situations it would be quite revealing. And since ladies are demanding: M33, 6ft, 170lbs, 7" length/5" girth, white European.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 01:20 PM
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I guess I'm never at the right place at the right time then. Unfortunately, I'm the kind of guy considered 'boyfriend material'. Even chicks who use tinder to fuck around want to try to force me into commitment/chasing them by withholding sex. I don't, so it goes nowhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 01:08 PM
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Pretty much this. The more successful/aware/developed I become as a person, the less interested I am in involving myself in a disruptive relationship that would screw up my otherwise enjoyable life. While I'm not against dating per se, I discovered that finding a person who would be worth it to me is like finding a needle in a haystack. Tbh sex is the only thing I miss right now, as I'm utterly incapable of attracting anyone for casual. Apart from that, being single is pretty great.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 01:04 PM
3

Ah yes, time for anti-scientitic puritan drivel peddled by weirdos deluding themselves into obtaining super powers via abstinence. A PPD highlight fo sho.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 12:54 PM
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Don't try to separate the two. Porn is and always has been a replacement for sex. It serves no other purpose. The purpose is a release of sexual frustration. When you're so passive and pornsick that you'd rather wank to a screen than fuck a real life woman, there's something wrong. This is what women are grossed out by. No one would rather 'want' to do it. Unfortunately, the scenario is never: laptop with pornhub open on the left, cute naked girl bent over on the right. Men do it because women d…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 12:52 PM
3

95% men watching porn never did it for the over-analyzed reasons contained in your weird projection. This is why it won't resonate, not because whatever ad hominem you're throwing at PPD men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 12:48 PM
8

Ever considered your misguided attempts at 'self-improvement' might be better kept to yourself? You're gonna end up like a Jehovah's witness bruh.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 12:44 PM
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'Think of the children! sobs'
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 12:43 PM
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Great, I definitely need to read more autistic takes on complex geopolitical topics.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 03:36 AM
1

It means absolutely nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 05:11 PM
1

It’s the same advice given to fat people To be fair, they really need to learn to partake in the fun when we follow them around playing tubas.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 11:44 AM
1

I've heard a similar story from a female friend once, lol. Impressive levels of delusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 11:43 AM
2

Even if you get 2 matches per 100 swipes (and are probably well in the upper half of men here!)(...) Women are into you(...) What the fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 10:24 AM
1

'Hello m'lady, my name is John Whogivesafuck. I would like to politely invite you to engage in respectful conversation with me for the purpose of courting tips fedora'
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 10:18 AM
1

Sounds like every girls dating profile ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 09:50 AM
1

Thanks for allowing me to take it however I want, I was waiting for your vocalized blessing with baited breath.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 04:44 AM
2

No, I'm taking it as an attack on logic. The age makes no difference. I'm sure it wouldn't if you or an onlooker reported him. 'Your honor, I was only hitting on that kid! Nothing wrong with wanting to fuck some phat jailbait pussy!'
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 04:38 AM
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No, I am not offended - I guess it's one of the perks of not being American. I am, however, slightly annoyed at the defensive mental gymnastics of trying to use that particular example as one of 'hitting on someone'.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 04:27 AM
1

She described herself earlier in this thread as loving strangers. It's just the love coming though bruh. Can you feel the love tonight?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 04:13 AM
1

Just quit your job/responsibilities and divide all of your time between classes, festivals, volunteering, hobby clubs etc. Don't forget to hit the bar/dancefloor every evening. Have a life, for fuck's sake! /s
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 04:11 AM
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Couldn't fit more outrage porn into the post eh? /yawn Maybe 2x will give you the attention you crave? Hey, it did deliver somewhat, I'm halfway to being hard af.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 04:07 AM
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She may still attract fetishists asking for a golden shower. Shitting her pants won't work too - scat play. Maybe a barf?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 03:58 AM
1

Wait... this isn't it? surprised Pikachu
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 03:50 AM
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A middle aged man sexually harassing a kid is not 'hitting on someone', nor is it remotely what comes to mind when that phrase is used, so not at all relevant to this discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 03:49 AM
1

Try being a human and viewing women as other humans who also talk and have thoughts and ideas. Typical common sense packed into passive aggressive condescending garbage sponsored by PPD. You're a real human being. And a real hero.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 03:41 AM
2

Simple, just genocide the LVM and standardize Chad harems.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 10:28 PM
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People who never lifted anything apart from a beer can to their mouths have the best fitness opinions, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 10:21 PM
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OPs underlying premise is that women prefer jacked dudes, so a small minority of men. Your post sounded to me like an argument against that because women prefer 'athletic' and not 'built' men, which to me implied asif the 'athletic' physique is more normalized and a more reasonable preference. I'm just saying it's not, most people don't and won't look like this, and it's a completely unreasonable standard for today's society. It requires years of discipline and concerted effort, and then a perma…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 10:14 PM
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Yeah. Most people are overweight and have serious issues with mobility, range of motion, imbalances etc. The athletic option from the article is solid muscle mass with ~13% body cat. Depending on your starting point and body, it will take 1-3 years of working out 4x a week and a perfect diet, no alcohol etc. This makes the assumption you don't have any issues that need to be fixed first and can actually perform all exercises, and learn them really quickly under the guidance of a trainer. Realist…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 09:59 PM
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Based on the pics "athletic" is a guy who clearly works out but doesn't have the overly muscular roided look. I am not sure you quite realize what it means to achieve the physique of the guy from the pic. 95% will never have to worry about the 'roided' look unless they put years of effort and roids.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 09:40 PM
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Indeed. The dude sounds like he thinks he'll be 'lean and athletic' from some jogging and swinging a kettle once a week, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 09:37 PM
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No worries, it's just Moogberg's brother/sock account. Here to swing his dick and shitpost.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 03:09 PM
4

Doesn’t make us bad people or pathetic. It doesn't? Am I still on PPD?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 03:03 PM
1

Why do you assume there needs to be commitment or emotional attachment to want to pleasure your sexual partner? This is not the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 04:23 AM
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Wouldn't have it any other way <3
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 10:06 PM
2

The overarching narrative on PPD is that women are just sooooo disinterested because they are liberated and independent and don't have to rely on men as was the case in the olden days. They just don't see any value in men apart from resources, which they don't need, so most of the time it's better to be single. This is, of course, because women are divine and wonderful beings - all with impeccable beauty, great personalities, an abundant of wit, amazing conversation skills, flawless social skill…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 01:46 AM
1

No, there are just guys that you mentioned who have casual twice a week, and bang one or two different chicks a month, or more. Meanwhile I haven't gotten laid in 1.5 years and most of the single guys I know either don't get laid or find some FBW/ONS like twice a year. So yeah, 20/80 for having most casual sex is definitely a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 07:53 PM
0

None of my single friends do, what now? Whose anectodes are winning?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 07:43 PM
1

It's almost asif people see what they want to see. surprised Pikachu
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 02:50 AM
1

I kind of think they do, I've met people like that. I know multiple people who say they really hate men but also have a bf. Sounds like PPD in a nutshell - at least the most vocal wahmanly part.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 10:52 AM
1

You spent your whole life associating a lack of overt masculinity with being gay, girly and weak? No. You and your bros made fun of guys who drank cocktails and cried when they were upset? No. Cocktails are great btw, my preferred choice of alcohol consumption. You called men who were skinnier than you shrimps, twink, soy boy? No. You made your bed now lie in it. The group of men who does the above is not the same group of men complaining.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 10:50 AM
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No. We only value crushing our enemies, seeing them driven before us and hearing the lamentations of their women. That is best in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 12:45 PM
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In the context of LTR - no. Saying that men can't bond and are only about looks is a fucking meme perpetrated by hurt women that made shitty choices, or were otherwise complicit in a bad situation and shift the blame. It's perfect for PPD. The vast majority of men bond fine, just like the majority of women, and will value non-physical aspects of their partner more provided they are still attracted to them (which they are, otherwise they wouldn't be together).
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 12:01 PM
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If we define HVM as purely one that gets laid and can enter relationships freely, then I agree. However, if that is the case, then I don't want to hear advice about 'self-improvement' ever again in the context of becoming a HVM. Learning strategies to get pussy is not self-improvement. Anyone with eyes can also see there is no correlation between self-improvement and sexual success - if that was the case, there would be no assholes/idiots/creeps/weirdos/slobs/deadbeats/junkies pulling girls. The…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 11:32 PM
1

That's perplexing. Logic would suggest that within committed LTRs it should be better, as there is more will, trust and time to work on it. Then again, I'm probably biased and delusional. A lot of relationships suck.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 10:35 PM
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So do you also go to depression forums and ask questions like: why don't you smile? why can't you be happy? why don't you do something with your life? or should we feel special to have you and your wisdom here?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 09:59 PM
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Funnily enough, they are usually terrible at selecting a guy that is likely to provide these orgasms. I have to laugh every time I hear stories of super confident fuckbois whose after smoke is longer and more intense than their performance. No wonder many women complain about how bad men are in bed - they are selecting those who are bad and compensate by exaggerated and risque behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 09:52 PM
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Why not have multiple girlfriends? Yeah, why not, indeed? This has to be trolling.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 09:21 PM
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That sounds impressive, I've also done the go abroad and become more spontaneous and social thing, and sounds like you've done it more than me. What do you work? I work as an independent contractor in the IT field. I've been working remotely for the last 6 years. So surely you have "changed your vibe" though right? I assumed you were unsuccessful with women and were saying that your vibe is forever preventing you from being attractive, but you've been in 4 LTRs so that's not the problem. It chan…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 03:25 PM
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We should stop hating promiscuity because judging someone's morality and character based on consentual sexual activity is fucking ridiculous and reeks of religious/antiquated ways of looking at the world. As for the fertility rates - good. Fuck humanity. We don't need more, we need less and restructuring of the entire socio-economic system to accommodate that. The alternative is death and destruction.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 02:26 PM
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I was an impoverished depressed homeschooled teenager (because of depression) who was too anxious/scared of leaving the house due to fearing people looking at me. Via 'changing my mind' I managed to get a college education, get into a highly paying field with rich remote work opportunities, buy my own very nice place, stayed in 30+ countries as a digital nomad, had 4 LTRs, got ripped etc. I would say I'm above average in most 'objective' metrics. I have no issue with socializing now, which is ki…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 02:08 PM
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Are you a virgin? If so, what you are suggesting is that there's no hope for you. I'm saying there is hope though. No. I've been in relationships most of my adult life. That being said, I never had casual due to the inability of making that happen despite being above average in most metrics. Why? Never had 'the vibe'. At the same time, I've no issues to socialize with friends or people I meet. I've had chronic depression issues throughout my teens and recurring down the line every now and then. …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 01:55 PM
1

Good for you I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 01:29 PM
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But what you think personality is is actually more malleable. And more if a response to the feedback you get from the environment than anything inborn. Actually, it is a combination of gene expression and - more importantly - everything that happens during your formative years: upgringing, relationships, experiences, environment, traumas etc. While you can change certain things about yourself as an adult, the so called 'vibe' is something you project unconsciously from the core parts of what mak…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 04:22 AM
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Not everyone gets into PUA. So by learning it you are already doing more homework than most guys are. And if you had success at it, then it worked. I didn't and don't know anyone who did. It's become such a meme that even PUAs rebranded themselves from being PUAs. Also, it's a small minority of people who have had no success with women whatsoever. Most people have had some success in that regard. Male sexlessness statistics disagree with you. As for body language, expression, upbringing -- yeah …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 04:09 AM
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I'm pulling 6 figures as an independent contractor and have a huge apartment for which mortgage will be paid off fully next year. The property already doubled in value since the initial purchase. I also have capital in stocks and savings, as I usually save/re-invest 2/3 of my monthly income. I'm 33 soon and my finances are improving every year. In my field (IT) I can look forward to 2 more decades of high paying positions, but I was thinking about retiring earlier. I'm dabbing in side business v…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 04:01 AM
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No, because PUA sells the idea that everyone can do it, which is false. People who do that naturally have that as their personalities, it's a cross-over of gene expression, upgringing, formative experiences and relationships etc. If you're an adult already and never had success, it's over. You can always improve aspects of your character, but you won't be able to flip your personality to naturally be someone successful at something you never had any clue about. This is not lifting, where doing X…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 03:47 AM
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TIL I'm actually a lesbian. Huh.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 03:42 AM
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None of this matters. It can help, but that's about it. What matters is how you make a woman feel. For that you need to be very good at talking, reading people, body language, smiling, spinning shit, exuding confidence and making people comfortable/at ease while also engaged. Most people aren't. I am of course talking about a guy that can really pull girls, not an incel or normies who have LTRs once or twice a decade.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 03:25 AM
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Become better than other men and you'll see the results Not really. A guy can be less attractive than you, less athletic, less wealthy, less intelligent, worse in bed than you, less educated/accomplished, less... you name it. However, he will have whatever natural 'charm' or 'pull' that will get him to fuck chicks that wouldn't even fart in your general direction. You will improve yourself, you'll become better, more social, better at conversations... but you likely still won't have 'it'. That's…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 03:15 AM
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Well, it's a Monday, so: work, gym after, probably do some stuff around the house (I'm wrapping up a long renovation project). Chill in the late evening with some Disco Elysium, a jay may or may not be involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 02:53 AM
1

What about being easy on the eyes?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 02:44 AM
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women in those balance out the mans rage. Grrrr, grrrr, grrrrr thumps chest.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 10:38 AM
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Why can't you just stop giving a fuck about what other people think and say? Is this not a possibility?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 12:06 AM
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To be fair, the threads you mentioned come from a deep place of autism or total disconnect from reality. Don't kick it, it's already dead!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 08:28 PM
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IDK man, Mr. Thundercock over there brought some pretty compelling shit to the table.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 03:02 AM
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Well, of course not. This is the corner of the internet where a bunch of broken salty people congregate to shit on each other under the guise of 'discussion', so that whatever deamons they have can get a quick fix. It's may not be as good as therapy, but hey - it's free.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 02:54 AM
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I'm not a fan of lying, It makes me feel wrong/uncomfortable, so I would say both are not okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 02:51 AM
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If I started to develop feelings for any of my female friends, most of whom I know for a long time, I would think really hard whether pursuing this is the correct course of action. Unless there is clear mutual attraction sparkling, and a very good chance it would actually work for us, I would rather get a grip and keep a friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 02:47 AM
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No, it's not. It's about encouraging male-to-male validation, and a general discussion regarding validation of men by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 11:58 PM
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Once again... what? Did you flip the script and started having a separate discussion with yourself or what's going on? Younger women? Age gap?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 11:40 PM
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...what?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 10:49 PM
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I didn't say it was a substitute. I said it ISN'T a substitute. I know, did I claim otherwise? There's a big difference between entertainment and psychological support and there's more than one type of that support. I wasn't talking about entertainment, I was talking about anything that fills the voids in life and provides stimulus/fulfilment and/or social interactions - friends, hobbies, traveling, work etc. For example, if you have parents (or friends, relatives, etc.) that love you strongly i…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 10:21 PM
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That’s not all that common. That's irrelevant to the topic at hand. Most women have little to no issue finding a willing partner So these women should probably stfu instead of lecturing men, who are in the polar opposite situation, on how they should feel.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 10:06 PM
1

Maybe you have big dick energy.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 09:38 PM
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I'm sure any woman drowning in loneliness and on her way to being a spinster - when this is NOT what she wants - feels amazing whenever her married/engaged girlfriends tell her how nice she is. Validation must go through the roof.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 09:23 PM
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Chonk.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 09:21 PM
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But why bro? Open your mind and your ass will follow.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 09:20 PM
6

Get a load off this guy's massive salami stick!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 09:19 PM
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Anything that is distracting/fun enough will make the absence of something else less crippling - until you're alone in bed on a hard night and have nowhere to escape to.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 09:18 PM
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So what? You're not entitled to anything. Just validate yourself and stop relying on others. /s - just larping as PPD kween
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 09:15 PM
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RiP grandma.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 09:05 PM
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I still can’t believe you haven’t had casual sex you’re literally attractive how am I getting it but you’re not? 😂 AFAIK he's short, based on previous interactions. Fly out to LA or NYC for a week max or something maybe you’ll get you one I Ah, so that's the trick - it's as easy as flying over to the other side of the world for a weekend!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 07:42 PM
2

Be attractive, don't be unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 07:37 PM
2

That people are garbage.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 02:08 PM
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Sex is readily available everywhere all the time with no need for a relationship It... it is?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 06:02 PM
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The women 'celebrating' the high standards usually do not adhere to them themselves, which is probably the crux of the issue. Bottom line: you can have whatever standard, but anyone has the right to call you out for being delusional. It's not about the philosophical and ethical implications of striving to attain the heights of humanity, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 12:13 PM
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*couldn't care less
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 04:50 PM
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Uh, no, I want to use my already-established credentials to become an engineer and I want to not be called a whore. That's what I want. You good with that? Yeah, you should be free to do whatever you want to do. Furthermore, any employer who judges you for anything else than credentials and ability to do your job should be fined and shamed. We already have discrimination laws in place and I encourage anyone who is met with unfair treatment to pursue their rights and not 'leave it alone'. I would…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 06:06 PM
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I hate game and don't participate in it. I'm done with chasing women in any way in general - if I don't see clear markers of interest and reciprocated effort towards getting somewhere (talk/date/casual/LTR) then I walk. The result is basically inceldom, but it's still less mentally destructive than bending backwards for the off-chance that a sub-standard woman will want to show me just how vanilla and boring she can be in the sack.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 05:25 PM
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I don't have children and am not planning to, so 'my daughters' won't exist. If you're so ready to fight the power then by all means start a women's foundation in whatever shitty religious conservative shitkicking backwater you come from - they probably need it over there. Not sure how many of these people subscribe to this sub though. No one talks about this stuff. Literally everyone is talking about it all the time. I was a self-declared feminist 10-15 years ago, when it was about uplifting wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 05:17 PM
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I'm really confused. Not wanting to get married doesn't have anything to do with 'deserving' anything. It's setting up a framework for living your life that is against traditional expectations.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 04:42 PM
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Make what?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 04:31 PM
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You're arguing with blue pill married women here, often with a religious background. They are unable to remove their world-view/situation/information bubble from the equation when discussing things in general terms. It's just a waste of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 04:30 PM
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Bro you just need to find a fat, ugly, disfigured, disabled single mother. Problem solved. Stop being so ridiculously picky. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 04:22 PM
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Brainwashed into having different values driving their lives apparently. The audacity!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 03:51 PM
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You missed the sarcasm. I've lifted on and off (definitely more on, in x year chunks) since I was 16, and I'm 33 next month. It didn't do much, never came even closely to any chubby 'natural' player.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 03:16 PM
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Do you even lift bro?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 03:06 PM
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That doesn't matter, this sub is all about projecting personal traumas onto everyone. Get with the program.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 02:55 PM
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'I'm not like other girls'
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 02:25 PM
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Most real world women couldn’t care less about validation via likes, or don’t even have accounts. Maybe most of them over 40, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 02:24 PM
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I don't think he was referring to your personal life story. Also pretty weird flex, flaunting childhood traumas, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 11:32 AM
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You're talking about these alpha guys like you wanna fuck them. Wouldn't be surprising.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 02:40 PM
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I don’t have problems with ONS. I had plenty when I was single. But I can count with one hand the ONS that were memorable/enjoyable. Have you ever considered this might be on you? There's a saying: if one person isn't nice to you on a given day, (s)he's an asshole. If all of them aren't nice to you on a given day, you're the asshole. If you had 'plenty' and barely any were good, then...?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 02:30 PM
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I have strong involuntary feelings of the negative kind when thinking that a government needs to 'legitimize' my relationships. I don't care for the 'benefits' of marriage as I don't need them. I'd prefer to be with someone based on mutual agreement alone, so being a forever bf is not a deal breaker, quite the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 12:11 PM
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And I'm saying it's a bad example because the guy is ridiculously physically attractive. An average dude playing lumberjack that women obsess about because he has 'a story' would be a far more compelling example of what is being peddled in this thread - that attractiveness for women is based on a cornucopia of factors, context and 'story'. I'm not even saying I disagree with the premise, as there is some truth to it, but this example is ridiculous. I know the 'female vs male gaze' concept. It's …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 08:56 PM
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I wouldn't know, I neither have TikTok nor 'gaze' at social media influencers. AFAIK there are many factors that go into social media following. I'm just saying it's an extremely unfortunate example to use a guy who's in the top 5% of male attractiveness as an example as to why women care more about other things than attractiveness, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 08:22 PM
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Once again, not everything is about you - it was a general reply to the guy regarding this entire thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 08:05 PM
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I'm not even replying to you. By all means, do try to curtail the solipsism.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 08:00 PM
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He's basically the embodiment of the Chad meme. Whatever he would do, he'd appeal to women, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 07:51 PM
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I'm afraid the largely toxic PPD women aren't gonna be the best source to clear up that confusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 07:38 PM
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It's totally the wood splitting that's driving the thirst. True story.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 07:35 PM
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I mean, he's a self- proclaimed original gangsta simp. What kind of 'advice' did you expect, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 04:37 AM
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I don't. The vast majority of my friends don't. Alas, it is probably my liberal non-religious bubble. I believe it's one that will continue to grow though. Cat's out of the bag.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 04:34 AM
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I live in a 500k + European city. There is simply not a stream of 160cm men here.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 12:37 AM
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Nice strawman you pieced together there, par for the course based on previous 'argumentation'.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 12:35 AM
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...what? Was this a reply to me? I'm confused.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 11:12 PM
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I'm not a woman, just to be clear. I live in Europe, in a country where the average height for men is 5'11. I'm 6ft myself, so barely above that. I guess it's more noticeable in the US due to society having more ethnic variety.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 10:47 PM
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I've never met a 5.3" adult man where I live. I guess they are more likely to exist in Asian countries where people are smaller on average. If that is the case, then yes, it would be prudent to not leave to a country where your severely below average height is sticking out even more.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 10:40 PM
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So now your 'argument' is some random celebrity story from a talkshow or whatever, got it. I agree, you should stop - stop trying to qualify rape in accordance to your juvenile preconceived notions.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 10:18 PM
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All my gfs were looksmatched or below. IRL I like girls in my 'league' but will often be interested in less conventionally attractive girls because they have a certain physical trait that I find hot or have a unique style/look. As I'm failing pretty badly, I guess the plot twist is that I'm really just a hideous delusional troll. gasps
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 10:13 PM
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This.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 10:07 PM
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You're only curious because you do not understand the concept of survivor bias. By your metric I'm amazingly successful. The difference is I have enough common sense to realize there were multiple factors that contributed to my situation, and have empathy and understanding towards people who are worse off. The 'pull yourself up by your bootstraps' crowd are usually the same people who somehow 'made it' and are looking at everything through that lens while sniffing their own farts. They are exact…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 09:24 PM
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Ah, one of the 'pull yourself up by your bootstraps' dudes. I would say something but I'd get banned, so I'll refrain.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 08:51 PM
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This has to be trolling, nobody can be as daft as OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 08:48 PM
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IDK, maybe? Some people say they are getting laid when they aren't getting laid apparently. Whatever makes them sleep at night I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 08:17 PM
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There's really not much to rebut. You're belittling male rape because you personally enjoyed boning your older coworker at 15 or whatever, and think this is some kind of argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 08:13 PM
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Good for them I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 07:14 PM
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Obviously it was a bit tongue and cheek. Maybe you know a lot of guys that have great sex lives and amazing relationships, I personally don't. I guess if you categorize 'getting laid' as getting the yearly awkward ONS which you regret, and the 'having relationships' as having a gf every couple of years (after it inadvertently doesn't work out), then I'd agree. A lot of guys are doing that indeed, probably to their detriment and due to a lack of options.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 06:14 PM
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That's a whole lot of text to convey the usual message of 'just accept not getting laid, life is not fair, move on, you can still be happy as a person'. People can distract themselves with many things and convince themselves of various stories to get by and have some peace of mind. I like how you imply that anyone not getting 'results' is just someone who didn't 'really' put in the work. By that logic if you're not rich then you didn't really try, if you're not famous you didn't really try, if y…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 05:58 PM
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I was always under the impression that looksmaxing was just a piece of the puzzle, not itself the solution. That would imply the guy is already naturally outgoing, meeting and enjoying people all the time, has charm/confidence and social skills etc. but is just ugly. The thing is that ugly dudes like that still get to lay the pipe to some degree. Looksmaxing might increase quality and frequency. Most people go into looksmaxing because it's something that's the easiest to change - you can do it e…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 05:39 PM
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Preach brotha!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 03:41 PM
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Was waiting for PPDs alpha to swing his massive schlong around. Didn't disappoint. thumps chest
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 03:39 PM
1

Why not both?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 03:37 PM
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But you (collective you) don't want a majority, you specifically want attention from the women you find physically attractive. Why would anyone want to date/have sex with someone they don't find attractive? The choices are be yourself and seek a suitable match, or fake a persona. Which of those is a viable, long term strategy? You can still be 'yourself' while trying to change into a more masculine persona to obtain better results. A viable long term strategy is one that delivers the most consis…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 02:20 PM
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Incels can't find love and attraction though, that's what makes them incels. Average men can, but it's often settling which backfires down the road. Wanting better relationships/more sex comes from a different place than wanting a yacht or private jet. The former are more important to a persons mental wellbeing, if not essential. The only people saying otherwise are those in a position of already being fulfilled, or outliers like asexuals. Accepting failure and never being able to live out your …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 02:11 PM
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It's a losing game regardless. Just because you tell them to stop complaining and bottle up their frustration won't change anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 01:54 PM
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You assumed who he is going after and with what results, as well as suggesting he's angry due to failure - none of which was evident from his 2 sentence comment. How is that not personal? The 'collective you' is a laughable attempt at backtracking. You don't know if he's an outlier. The entire point is that men are behaving in ways that the majority of women want/find attractive and then women complain about it and blame men. Changing one's behavior to appeal to a majority is a better strategy t…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 01:51 PM
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No, I don't watch/listen to garbage. I've seen some TRP/PUA content in the past and cringed so hard I was afraid of permanent disfigurement have I continued. However, this is still the internet. I've never seen or heard any of this IRL. I was also under the impression the 'message' is towards PPD complainers, who come here specifically to complain, because it's their outlet to do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 01:45 PM
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So you fall in the majority that he was talking about but tell him to chase outliers as a strategy? That makes zero sense. He also didn't say anything about himself in the post, he merely stated a fact, to which you also seem to contribute. That you made it immediately personal and came out with a bunch of assumptions is just incredibly telling.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 01:41 PM
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It’s better to work with what you’ve got than whine about fantasy. Anonymous whining is one of the pillars of the internet. It's like going to a bar, being surprised people are drinking and telling them to get a grip, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 01:37 PM
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Agree, to a degree. I've been approached by about 2 women in my life, and I'm far from Chad tier. Just your average Joe who dresses well. Aren't you like a hundred years old? Mentioning two approaches like it's a flex is both laughable and making the dude's point for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 01:33 PM
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The only thing I'm referring to are your ridiculous projection-based assumptions, in a sarcastic manner. There are plenty of ordinary, everyday women who prefer a more gentle man, some who seek out effeminate or bi men. I know solipsism is hard to overcome, but it might be beneficial to realize that the majority of people don't share your preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 01:22 PM
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Can we be honest about this? I guess not, seeing as you aren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 01:14 PM
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At this point, if the position of President was exchanged for the position of Kween, and there was a law requiring 50% of cabinet to be female, it would still be patriarchy for whatever reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 01:12 PM
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I remember elementary history textbooks describing ancient people as matriarchal - was this outdated information (it was 20 years ago) or do we have a 'no true matriarchy' kind of situation here?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 01:08 PM
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It's for sure all the pornstars he's banging. No ordinary, everyday woman wants a masculine man. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 12:59 PM
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Just FYI, the so called 'death grip' is not an actual thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 12:34 PM
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Wasn't it started by religious nutjobs? Tells you all that needs to be known about it, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 12:33 PM
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M: 84 F: 81 'Undifferentiated' on the chart. I'm a dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 12:23 PM
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That's... not really as much as a bragging right as you think it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 06:34 PM
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tism intesifies
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 06:32 PM
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Trump is grotesque and game a porn star a few pumps Plot twist: he's a actually a stallion. I mean, he fucked America pretty good.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 12:25 PM
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Think this is the most prudish sub on Reddit lol. It's full of wifeys, what do you expect?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 03:40 PM
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He's not wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 02:48 PM
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So you are watching garbage content (reaction videos) designed for easy views and are surprised it's not intellectual?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 11:47 AM
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Both homosexuality and promiscuity are at odds with the ideal of one man and one woman pairbonding for life in the effort to raise healthy children. Divorce is at odds with this also. Good, fuck children (metaphorically). We have enough people and the cancer-like growth-based economy is unsustainable.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 05:59 PM
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Alright, but everyone with two brain cells to rub together knows that he won't receive sexual attention from a IG model that he commented on as one of thousand other idiots. I thought this would classify as being a simp, especially as a repeated offense towards the same people, and that thirst is in general motivation for simping.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 05:56 PM
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I guess he's referring to the thousands of comments along the lines of 'baby you so cute', 'you are so beautiful' etc. under random pictures of girls on socials. That's typical simp behavior and buying into the blatant attention seeking.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 04:55 PM
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His experience was being blown on the beach I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 04:51 PM
2

Lol, cute.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 04:43 PM
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There’s a huge difference between a 16 year old and a 20 year old. Nah. One is just finishing secondary school and the other is nearly finishing uni. I guess you have a different schooling system. Here you finish BA at 22 and MA at 24. They have hugely different life experiences. How? There’s a big difference in emotional maturity between 16 and a 20 year old. There is some difference, but it's not that big. Most 20yo nowadays are immature. It’s incredibly easy to coerce a 16 year old into doing…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 03:02 PM
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There's not that much of a difference between 16 and 20yo as people here make it out to be. Both usually still living with parents. Both still likely in school, just different schools. If no college is involved then one is just starting ouy in the workforce while the other will be soon and is getting ready. I can easily see it happen, especially since girls are often into older guys - I've seen it a lot, middle school girls with high school bfs, high school girls with college bfs. Maturity is su…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 02:00 PM
1

Then I'm not sure what we're disagreeing about. Me neither. Nowhere did I say everyone should seek out a relationship. Indeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 04:21 AM
1

There would be no point, but that's also not what I'm talking about. You are looking at this through the lens of relationship = commitment, and if not, then 'random hookup'. That's fine. This is not my approach/philosophy. I don't feel like getting into it, as it ultimately doesn't matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 04:12 AM
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I'd argue that it's the opposite. If You can do whatever floats your boat. you can go on alone, why would you tie yourself to someone you already know you're going to leave? I don't want to 'tie' myself to anyone. Just do random hookups I'm not able to. and maintain a robust social life. I don't know what is your definition of 'robust'. I have friends, but I'm also an adult and have shit to do and things I'm pursuing.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 04:06 AM
2

They just let you do it, you can do anything. Grab her by the pussy, do anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 03:54 AM
2

It's funny because if a man stands around a women when he has no reason to, 95% of the time he's a creep/stalker.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 03:51 AM
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There's a lot of people here pointing out how many men can't 'read a situation' etc but, to be honest, there's a lot of women nowadays who are completely inept at signaling. I've dated chicks like that - they were usually shy/normie girls - who wanted to continuously go on dates with me, keep up contact etc and give me absolutely nothing to work with. I had no fucking idea whether they wouldn't totally freak out after a kiss, because tbh they looked like they would. They weren't keeping me aroun…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 03:47 AM
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That would be the case for mentally strong people who realize they can go on alone, know what they want, don't create unhealthy co-dependence dynamics within relationships, accept that life is fleeting by definition and that people are fallible and it doesn't always work out. They also accept that it doesn't need to work out, and that not everything has to be super serious, black and white etc. Soooo... not most people. What you are saying makes sense, and there is no harm in that at all, but th…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 03:30 AM
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Of course people can still cheat with labels, but less likely too, because of stigma of they’re caught. Imagine being motivated to keep a failing relationship going by 'fear of stigma'. What a fucking oof.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 03:23 AM
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She was waiting for a 'gotcha' but didn't get one.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 03:18 AM
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True, was tired, thanks for pointing it out. I've made an edit.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 12:38 PM
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I don't feel like they were a game changer for me. The majority of the women don't care, and the ones that do care do it for all the wrong reasons. Regarding the insurance. I don't own a car because I live in a big European city, hence it's just a nuisance - public transit is great, affordable and available. Cities are also very walkable. I also don't need health insurance because we have it free. So the only thing that's really insured is my apartment.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 09:47 AM
2

“can I see your titties please 🥺”, I laughed out loud. Sigh, I swear, it's men like these fucking it up for the rest of us.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 03:50 AM
1

It is! In, ermm, a way...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 03:46 AM
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What does he need? A home. Solid income. Insurance. All factors we as men control. When that’s all squared; how attractive is he? IDK, you tell me? Do you have these things? Were they a game changer? I'm also really confused about 'insurance', lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 03:44 AM
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I mean, this coming from a guy flaired with 'Profesional Nice Guy'. You two should totally get married. Make PPD proud damnit!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 03:37 AM
2

But US was blessed by Gawd and is the land of the free, as well as home of the brave. Surely they are a barometer as the bastion of all that's righteous and moral? /s
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 03:18 AM
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Why not teach men AND women to be strong minded, level headed, somewhat stoic, yet emotionally available, compassionately empathic/sympathetic adult human beings? Probably because the manosphere, and TRP especially, is a response to modern feminism, which is not at all interested in men beyond gaslighting them? What you are talking about is egalitarianism, which should be the gold standard, but it won't be. Not enough room in there to fling shit and take out one's frustration at the opposite gen…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 03:12 AM
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How is TRP defeatist? Isn't it about becoming the Chad/Chadlite at any cost in order to swing your dick around and bed women, eventually finding a unicorn wife? Isn't blackpill the defeatist movement? Giving up because they aren't able and/or all women are evil. Or even MGTOW might be considered defeatist in some sense, as they just stop giving a fuck altogether. But TRP?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 02:54 AM
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Red pill is basically preaching that some women are bad so it’s okay to treat all women like shit and cause as much destruction as you can in the process. All of the other flowery “self improvement” language they use is just a cover for their far more insidious motives. Fun fact: if you replaced 'red pill' in this paragraph with 'western new wave feminism' it would still be true. /edit Also replace 'women' with 'men'.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 02:46 AM
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Alrightie. I wouldn't and I know why most men wouldn't - because sex is something more than shooting your load with a person that was essentially purchased for the purpose. I'd say you are probably in the minority of women, but fair enough, no judgement here. Like I said, men who want to use sex-workers already do.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 06:56 PM
1

'But it's men who started the war!'
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 06:36 PM
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He already responded to that, relax Chad. You don't need to be a spokesman for the ladies, I'm sure they are plenty capable.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 06:35 PM
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Would I pay for a pro? No. I’m a woman, and a decent looking one who doesn’t need to Yes, I know you don't. It's called a thought experiment. I find it's good advice not to give advice you wouldn't take yourself. But older, ugly women go abroad everyday and as sex tourists This is a ridiculously small minority. People do all kind of things. Men know about prostitution, those who accept it are already doing it. The 'advice' to 'just pay a pro' is useless to the rest.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 06:18 PM
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I'm not saying it isn't. What I'm saying is feminist are dishonest in their argument. I already said, if they presented it without intentional distortion, I'd be the first onboard to agree as to what it was - shitty. Also, they have the vote for a 100 years now, which as you pointed out is a lot in modernity. Probably increasingly more all the time, due to how fast shit changes. I wonder how long they'll keep going back to the same argument as an auto-response to any gender related topic, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 06:00 PM
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Because it’s not a need, in that you won’t die from lack of sex the way you will from starvation So we are going to go into semantics now? It's a biological imperative the same way eating is, for the same purpose - multiplying. That's pretty much the only reason why we fulfill any basic need, and how we are programmed to operate. Despite the cultural and intellectual development, that program is still there. But it certainly is a psychological need It is. which is why we say to go to pros How is…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 05:52 PM
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It’s also harder to be used when you’re honest No, it's not. Emotionally unstable people aren't analyzing 'plausible deniability' and aren't able to easily control their feelings. I really don't want to continue this exchange. It's like you're trying to mathematically explain the beauty of art, it's borderline autistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 05:45 PM
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They value sex like a they value eating - it’s necessary and is pleasurable, but you don’t think about it when you’re not hungry So why are PPD women here gaslighting men all the time saying sex is not a need? The guys who complain about it are the ones unable to scratch that itch for a long time, maybe never. If they could they also wouldn't think about it all the time and wouldn't complain. This is basically the reason 90% of the content of this sub exists, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 05:39 PM
1

...what?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 05:31 PM
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So I guess you're just going to ignore the whole of history and obsess about these 60 years, gotcha. Yeah, it sucks it took a little longer. I'll have no issue with any feminist pointing out 'but you could universally vote 60 years earlier!'. That's not what they are doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 05:30 PM
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What happened to the honor of serving ones country? It was always a lie compa.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 05:24 PM
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What's your point? I answered a personal question asked by OP. Just because people are doing something doesn't mean it's a positive thing. Good on them about being honest they're looking for a bandaid I guess. Let's me know who to avoid. I guess it's their business if they end up even more fucked up when someone decides to take advantage of them, for which I don't think they are ready if they are 'still upset'.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 05:12 PM
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Ah yes, because it happens all the time, honesty is truly where it's at in modern dating. I guess in your hypothetical scenario it's fine for the other person that may just look for an emotional wreck to pump'n'dump and is willing to risk potential drama. It then just leaves the question of whether it's a healthy thing to do for the person needing the bandaid. In my opinion it's not and most people are not self-aware enough to realize this in their state of hurt, and will likely be hurting thems…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 05:05 PM
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So how would that work exactly? 'Hey, I'm not over my ex and still feel bad about getting dumped. Let's go on a date/fuck so I can feel better'. IDK about you, but I'd be splitting real quick if I heard that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 04:57 PM
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There's really no 'but'. Don't treat people like a bandaid - get your shit sorted in a healthy way, then go out dating short-term, long-term, fucking casually, whatever floats your boat and is obtainable. Of course, people can do whatever they want. However, as a person that was used as a bandaid - it fucking sucks and is very disrespectful. This is like empathy 101.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 04:36 PM
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I specifically avoid doing this, it's both unfair and weak to treat other people as rebounds and mood stabilizers. I try not to be unfair and weak in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 03:00 AM
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I guess this is proof that one can achieve good results even based on a shitty premise.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 02:55 AM
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I think it can happen sometimes if it's spontaneous but also evolves out of friendship. Let's say you become friends when one or more of you are in relationships, but at some point in your life you are both single again and happen to develop feelings because of some event, or spending the right time together in the right circumstances. The issue I took with the 'friendship route' is that it sounds like befriending someone when you really wanted to date them in the first place, and that's kinda w…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 02:47 AM
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If that's your standard then, well, I guess I do. Thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 02:40 AM
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This was a little patronizing dude It wasn't. I’m an adult and can say what I feel outloud no problem, If you say so. I would think people like that clear up awkward situations when they happen instead of posting about it on reddit later, lol. didn’t think this situation warranted some deep conversation about whether he was tryna fuck me It's not really deep, if it was weird then just call it out. You're not pondering the nature of existence with the guy. Also, if he tried to fuck you, then that…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 02:38 AM
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I've recently been on a date with a chick where we had some drinks, and I ended up paying because the barkeep didn't split the bill. I was going to ask her to split, but she did it first saying she's gonna pay me back, because she doesn't want me to think that she owes me anything. I was like hell yeah you will, lol. I've also made it clear I don't expect anything and that she's got the wrong idea if she thinks I'll make roundabout courting gestures and beat around the bush while passively aggre…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 02:31 AM
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As I man, I hate this tbh. I'm doing nice things for people, if they are cool and I have time, and I don't expect anything in return because not everything in this life has to be transactional (I'm still naive like that I guess). If this guy genuinely feels something towards you, and wasn't a shitty person, he would be happy to drive you (if he didn't have to be anywhere). He would also have enough common sense to ask you a few bucks for the gas, so you wouldn't feel like you're indebted to him …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 02:22 AM
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The point I'm making is that the men who simultaneously respect promiscuous men and detest promiscuous women are contradicting themselves. Sure, that's retarded. The OP asked where they are, so if the answer is 'among the manosphere' - so basically a portion of niche internet forum cirklejerks - then I'd have to agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 01:59 AM
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In my circles, when men talk about dating or hooking up it's basically 'hey man, good for you, is she nice? was it fun?' and after promptly discussing it we move on. There's no judgement or feefee measuring. I guess it might be a case of the information bubble. I'm not friends with retards. Maybe the college football jock team or whatever is another story. I feel it's a common myth that men discuss their sexual encounters in perverse detail and relish the 'alpha' angle, and maybe some do, but I'…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 12:58 AM
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So how many men do you think do this? I replied because I am getting vibes that this is being discussed like it's a majority. Perhaps I've read the room incorrectly, as this is the internet, and I am not a native speaker. So is it common?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 11:14 PM
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Because, based on your post history (I've been around here for a long time and recognize the 'usuals') you're really not as sweet as a lady as you believe to be. Or, at least, you're letting go of it here. Besides, very few women would be able to participate in my lifestyle on equal footing, and I'd hate to string anyone along. As to the vetting, you are basing your argument on the Women are Wonderful™ effect. You say you've been fucked over after months and implying that doesn't happen to men b…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 11:04 PM
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Bro y'all will know you want to date me and that I'm a classy, sweet smart lady within like 2 conversations. Actually, I especially wouldn't date you. Feel free to continue your emotional tirade.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 10:40 PM
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Just stop beating that horse, it's long dead, and had rabies in the first place. Yes, you have it easier, you have more options and they are more easily attainable without much effort. Yes, you have to vet a lot for a quality guy, presuming you even deserve one in the first place, and I imagine it can be tiring and unrewarding. I get it. Problem is, men also have to vet, but at the same time put in all the work to create any options at all. Do you know how tiring it is to spark initial attractio…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 09:20 PM
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I see, I wonder how that works in different states. I would imagine certain parts of the US suck more than others in that department.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 09:10 PM
2

Well, that sucks. Fat and/or mentally unstable is a growing demographic though.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 09:09 PM
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Don't be baited into a financial discussion by someone that isn't supporting herself.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 02:59 PM
14

I heard Jeffrey Dahmer was quite the funny charmer.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 01:42 PM
4

Well, that entirely depends on what type of a guy you are. If you are really high value man, really attractive, etc. the girl might have thought she hit the jackpot with you. This is more of the Golden Penis Syndrome. Personally, I'm the kind of guy that despite being high value doesn't have delusions of grandeur. I also don't date low quality women, so when selecting within my league I understand I might be valuable but also that she had/has other similar options, just maybe not now.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 01:41 PM
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Wanting to be in a room full of horny sweaty drunk men creepily oggling a woman they can't have. You're basically paying to get cucked in the company of other guys. Yeah, totally 'normal', lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 01:32 PM
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If you're encouraging your fellow men to have hookups with women, and you're encouraging already successful men to have hookups with even more women, I don't. Your friend hooked up with 100 women - you praise him and encourage him. Once again, I don't. I couldn't care less how many chicks he fucks. This is so weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 01:25 PM
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According to TRP, you want a girl to be easy for YOU but not easy for other man. So the simple fact that she fucked you quickly doesn't necessarily mean she is a slut and she fucked 100 other guys like that before. But that's delusional, it reeks of the Golden Penis Syndrome.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 12:43 PM
1

It's not about facts, it's about what the guy knows (or doesn't).
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 12:41 PM
0

I am but expanding upon it with some ball breaking fam! It's all good!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 06:14 AM
4

My man making some long term grand strategy 4d chess moves over here.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 06:11 AM
2

They can, they do and - if they sense it'll be a problem - they'll lie about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 05:57 AM
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This was explained - if he's not bf material then he's not sticking around so the woman doesn't give a fuck if he thinks she's easy. It will not impact her. However, if he is bf material, then being seen as easy may potentially undermine her image and derail the chance for a relationship where she wants one. So it makes perfect sense - it's 100% self-serving theatre.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 05:53 AM
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I've never ever seen a guy saying "She seems like an amazing girl for a serious LTR but the only problem is she had sex with me too early so she appears easy and that's a downside". Shit just doesn't happen, it's all in the head of women. I guess you never heard about TRP then.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 05:48 AM
3

Can't let a joke fly without spoiling it. My man has to be a riot at parties.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 05:16 AM
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I've got you covered my friend, here's the recipe, follow the steps exactly: 1) Take a shower 2) Just be yourself 3) Just be confident 4) Leave the house You've got it champ! /s
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 01:38 AM
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( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡° )
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 01:34 AM
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Despite the fact that I'm theoretically the exact kind of guy who's in demand as a sperm donor(tall, former athlete, degree holding) this is exactly why I wouldn't do it. My dude low key bragging about being a specimen because he went to college and worked out within the comforts of modern society. Hilarious.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 11:51 PM
1

Lock your door tonight. I'm cumming.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 11:40 PM
1

My mother's dead. You have some weird fetishes bruh.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 09:53 PM
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No, I'm saying it's wrong for both parties, but women will never admit to doing it - for whatever reason they are never the culprit and can do no wrong. If they want to fuck a guy and drop him the same night it's okay, because they are just 'protecting their feelings'. Also, the guy obviously wanted it, he's a guy after all, amirite? If not, well, too bad - his problem. Oh wait, there is a reason. Women are Wonderful™.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 09:37 PM
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and how you have never ever committed any crimes Of course not, this is why I'm always 100% upfront about all the people I've killed.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 09:29 PM
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Loki doesn't have a dad bod. This is a dad bod. This is Loki. I don't see the surge of women advocating for dad bods on social media, quite the contrary, the guys being fawned upon are always in good shape. Arnold was the top elite in a niche sport focused on building a muscular body, he's the 0.000001% of humanity, of course many women wouldn't find him attractive due to how big he was (although many did). No casual, natural gym goer will ever achieve even half of Arnold's gains, so I just don'…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 09:19 PM
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What's bad is shaming men for pump'n'dump casual sex all the time and trying to whitewash women that do it because 'they just don't want to get their feefees hurt' and 'that guy was only a human dildo so it's ok'. Most of the time an ONS is fairly spontaneous and people don't have 'the talk' about a relationship, if only because that would be extremely fucking weird and clingy at such a stage. Unless you think it's usually a man that approaches a girl and says 'baby you fine, I know nothing abou…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 09:12 PM
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Until women select a spokeswoman who will come out and answer 'because we are fucking stupid'. The incels will cry with joy and start clapping, some of them will fall into each other's arms in a festive and emotional moment. Red pillers will give a knowing nod of approval while smoking their ciggars and patting themselves on the back in a totally alpha and very no-homo way. Blue pillers will be shocked and bewildered, and spiral down into existentional depression. Black pillers will finally kill…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 08:38 PM
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But normie women are also boring. No exciting/interesting guy with a rich life is going to want them, except maybe for a pump'n'dump if she's cute. It doesn't make sense to want something that you yourself can't deliver upon, it won't create a healthy lasting relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 08:30 PM
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The only thing I'm surprised about, although to a continuously lesser degree, is their hypocrisy and lack of self-awereness. ONS in and of themselves are not the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 08:22 PM
1

First person she called after her husband broke her cherry on their wedding night was me... Did everyone around stopped doing what they were doing and clapped?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 06:48 PM
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You're always gonna 'settle' in some way when it comes to LTR because it's borderline impossible to find a 100% compatible partner - one with the perfectly matching personality and looks thay get you off just by looking (subjectively), who are equally into you. It's simply a question of how much you are willing to compromise on and try to get it to work. Personally, after a few LTRs, I've grown tired with the prospect of relationships and I'm not willing to settle anymore. If I find that 'perfec…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 06:39 PM
3

tumbleweed
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 06:31 PM
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I think, as in most of such situations, this was not discussed. To be clear, I don't believe anyone owns commitment to anyone for whatever reason. Just saying this thinking always seem to apply to women and never to men. If we are talking about a scenario where a man tells the girl outright he's looking for a relationship for the purpose of scoring sex and splitting, then yeah, that's not a good look. I am not sure if that is what the OP is taking about as the guy is all over the place.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 06:28 PM
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I don't know if it's 'worse', both sides are trying to do a shitty thing and justify it. I actually have a friend that's attractive that was pumped'n'dumped by a girl when he wanted more. I guess he wasn't 'boyfriend material', lol. I seriously doubt women who do this come to a date and say 'hey bro, just to be clear, I'll suck your soul out but don't want to ever see your ass again, take it or leave it, mkay?'.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 06:19 PM
1

I guess it's really about having real friends, which seems to be an increasingly difficult thing. I imagine having kids just makes shit worse in that department.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 06:14 PM
1

Yeah, it's PPD, of course it's gonna be weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 06:13 PM
0

I mean, as was evident in another topic, women have one that's even worse ('he's not boyfriend material'), so I guess OPs mental gymnastics is only fair, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 06:09 PM
7

Have you no shame sir? Have you no decency?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 06:02 PM
2

He was describing what was attractive to him. It's an internet forum. Nobody is a mind reader.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 06:01 PM
3

Um... okay?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 05:53 PM
3

Why do you believe he's 'concerned' about them? Seems like you're the only one seeing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 05:41 PM
2

Where am I complaining? You're the one that took issue for him simply mentioning his preference, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 05:40 PM
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Pretty much. It's about shaming men for having physical preferences under the guise of being 'shallow'. Of course, this only applies to fat women. Go try and tell a woman here to fuck/date a fat neckbeard for having a good heart and see how that goes lmao. Inb4 'men are not owned anything!!!' reeeeee.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 05:39 PM
0

You know according to tinder swipe rates, this isn't even that much of an exaggeration lol. It's just one of his comedy routines, nothing to see here.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 05:35 PM
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I don't understand. OP has a standard and you seem to take issue with it. I'm pretty sure he ignores girls that don't fit the bill. You act like he's following fat girls around playing a fucking tuba. Why do you assume he's not avoiding them? He simply put forward his standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 05:33 PM
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I also don't care. If someone is fat then by default she will be invisible to me, as I don't find fat visually pleasing. I am also not fat myself and put in considerate effort since many years to be fit. Why would I not hold a romantic/sexual prospect to the same standard as I hold myself? If it doesn't affect you in any way, then why do you take issue with OP having this standard?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 05:31 PM
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They care about the weight of people they are considering romantically/sexually because they don't find fat rolls attractive. It's really not difficult. It's also fine. Stop telling them what they 'should' like to feel better about yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 05:26 PM
3

Tell me you have weight issues without telling me you have weight issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 05:22 PM
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So Loki has a dad bod and random schmucks at the gym look like Schwarzenegger...? I'm trying to make sense of these examples but they are so extreme it just sounds like trolling. Is it? Did I just not get the /s?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 05:17 PM
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You've been pwned my friend, plain and simple, and I'm sorry to hear that. Women who do that are no better than pump'n'dumpers that they complain about and shame so much all the time here. The amount of mental gymnastics performed in this thread to avoid admitting that is hilarious.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 05:13 PM
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There's no strings attached or emotions involved. Easier to get your nut, forget and move on. So women are now doing the exact same thing they always hated men for?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 04:52 PM
10

That's some karmic shit right there.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 04:50 PM
1

Now, now, then. Don't be so hard on yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 08:47 AM
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Fat men are equally as unattractive, unless someone has a proclivity for double chins, then fine. Having a different standard for fatness for the genders is ridiculous, everyone should be assessed equally. As for the wall, a person is attractive until (s)he isn't. Usually, people who take care of themselves well get to age graciously and can keep attractiveness for a long time. In that sense, there is a 'wall' for everyone. This usually impacts attractive people more if said people were used to …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 08:45 AM
1

Oh yeah, I'm thoroughly distraught. It's nice that you care enough to keep replying though. Maybe comfort me with a big'ol hug, whaddya say?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 08:28 AM
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make point and generalize backtrack and veer of the subject say it wasn't generalization and was only about you call person confused by all of this 'triggered' pull the 'but I was only joking' card I see you are well-versed in internet shit posting, keep up the good work. I guess I shouldn't be surprised, it's just typical FDS behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 08:24 AM
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Nice trolling there, I had a good laugh. In what world are average men approached and flirted with? The fantasy land you derived in your head? 95% of time time women don't do shit apart from waiting and sending extremely vague 'cues'. Maybe it happens in zoomer age brackets in America, IDK. I guess high schoolers and college students there may be more progressive about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 02:28 AM
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Yes, it takes effort. What you said is still wrong. It's based around the false notion that sex is a fucking rocket science where all women are extremely hard to please and need to be meticulously studied, and the men are all sad pumping sacks that can't take cues, know nothing about women and have no foreplay. Just stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 12:09 AM
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It usually doesn’t get good until after the fifth time for women Stop projecting.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 12:00 AM
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Of course not - it's obviously men's fault for inventing misogyny and then forcing women to internalize it. We are, after all, the root of all evil.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 11:59 PM
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No, they are saying the exact opposite - that they are inherently superior and thus entitled to being wined and dined. They're saying that - and more - should be the price to enjoy m'lady's company. And, sexually speaking, they aren't wrong - they are the gatekeepers and there's plenty of guys willing to do just that. When more men individually stop doing that, which is anyway happening due to socio-economical reasons, it'll stop being a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 10:25 PM
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I honestly don't know anymore, it's mostly frustrating garbage and autistic/sociopathic takes. I guess it's the allure of looking into the abyss. I just hope I'll manage to turn away before it starts looking back.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 09:41 PM
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We live in a success obsessed culture of perfect people, which is abundantly clear every step of the way. It's all about success, the hustle, staying positive etc. The social media accounts with most traction are those showing you attractive people, exotic travel, fancy yachts, fancy hotels with champagne in bathtubs etc. People obsess about celebrities all the time. The most pursued 'values' are money, sex, status, material posessions and getting ahead of the rest. It's a typical late-stage cap…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 06:48 PM
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'PPD men' is not a homogenous entity. It's more adorable being a married ~50yo hanging around in PPD and discussing current dating with 20-30yo, while thinking you are even remotely tuned into the topics being discussed.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 06:25 PM
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He was a person raised in a different time and thus displaying different attitude towards certain things. I don't understand why this is difficult to understand. My grandma also said that 20 years ago and she would likely say it 10 years ago as well had she still been alive.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 05:36 PM
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Cool boomer story, but I don't think OP is talking about what was the attitude 50+ years ago. My grandma used to say that 'a man needs to be just a little better looking than the devil', so yeah that used to be the attitude, it's irrelevant to any modern discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 05:31 PM
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Dunno, I try not to ponder things so far removed from my reality that they're inconceivable, at least in dating. It's probably largely semantics.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 05:28 PM
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It was a joke, calm your tits.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 04:58 PM
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Don't be tripping now from all of that goalpost moving.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 06:15 AM
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One can only dream.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 06:11 AM
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There's nothing wrong with being nice. Nothing wrong with being kind. No, you don't understand. Benevolent sexism is a patronizing belief that women need 'help' and coddling, and is often paired with the Women are Wonderful effect. This is the 'traditional' outlook on women - that they are empathetic, kind, nice, angelic, nurturing creatures who fart rainbows and need to be protected by an impeccable manly gentleman. I'm not saying it's wrong to be nice or kind, lol. I'm like that to everyone un…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 06:05 AM
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Nah, in that way he can still complain about the lack of companionship and all that incel horseshit. The real solution here is obviously to shoot him. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 05:54 AM
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Nah, obviously you should just tell yourself that you're fuckable really hard to validate that aspect of yourself. Trust me, panties gonna start dropping like it's laundry day. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 05:49 AM
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A woman in the comment above this said she has to turn men down and make clear that she's not into them and they still do stuff for her. No matter how much she protests. They do it for free. Go out of their way etc. To be fair, this is typical 'nice guy' behavior and is a narrative often pushed by society and women themselves as part of benevolent sexism. I was raised mostly by my mother and my grandmas, and it was continuously drilled into me that I need to be nice to women regardless of anythi…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 05:42 AM
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If you give women the power to validate your sexual attractiveness This makes zero sense. The only person who can validate you in terms of sexual attraction is that with whom you want to interact in this manner. and worth as a man and human Yeah, this is correct. Sexual attraction doesn't comprise your worth as a human being. Though the only people who think that are probably black pillers.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 05:35 AM
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I have a proclivity for alt girls. I also like big, expressive eyes. A short, slim, ginger alt girl with short(ish) hair would be the ideal. That being said, I've never been with a girl like that and likely never will be. So, the next best thing is to stop thinking in terms of types and going by subjective attraction. All kind of women catch my eye, and I've been with girls who were not attractive to me at first glance but become after I got to know them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 05:29 AM
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Jesus, incels are ruining good movies for me now?! Cruel world indeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 05:15 AM
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There are no 'benefits" that would sway me towards such an ill-advised decision, I'm perfectly fine without having them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 05:09 AM
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I'm not sure what the first part of this reply is all about, but this: Not to mention that if you did only want sex and had no intention to be misleading you wouldn't do things considered a demonstration of romantic affection Like, it's fine and good to be nice to someone even during casual relationships, but sending mixed signals is just asking for trouble.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 03:16 PM
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it’s because that’s not important to me and goes unnoticed as long as you’re naturally thin. Fixed that for you. Awfully long rant for just stating your preference.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 12:57 PM
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Lol this guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 12:20 PM
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Username checks out I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 08:56 AM
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That's entirely on them and their lack of communication, both before and during sex. Personally, I don't have sex with people who have vastly different values and preferences, or who have a narrow minded approach towards it. We are incompatible.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 08:53 AM
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what I perceive as good sex Different people perceive different sex as 'good'.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 08:47 AM
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most porn star sex is not really all that great for most women. I never said it was. I explicitly stated in my original comment what were my take aways from porn, all of which were pretty vanilla, to which she took issue. I'm really tired of this discussion and people constantly moving the goalpost of what 'porn star sex' is to fit their own preferences and narratives in a way that allows them to shit on porn as a concept. I'm done. Like whatever you like, watch whatever you want or nothing at a…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 08:40 AM
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To be fair, you’re doing the exact same thing with the implication that not liking “porn star sex” = starfish. First of all, that was nothing directed at her personally - unlike her blatant suggestions that my partners faked enjoyment because my positive approach to porn must mean I suck in bed and am unable to read a woman. Also, it was based on her weird understanding of 'porn star sex'. I've made homemade videos with my gfs - if we decided to upload that to pornhub, does that mean we are now …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 08:26 AM
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No, actually. I’m capable, like many humans, of learning from the experiences of others. No, what you're actually doing is ineptly trying to infer things about my relationships that you think will make me feel bad, because you don't like my stance on porn (which you have seem to misconstrued, likely on purpose). You seem to be unable to accept that people can enjoy porn, and that both men and women can find inspiration in porn to use in their own bedrooms and be satisfied with the results. Were …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 07:58 AM
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I'm sure you know from experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 07:47 AM
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The kind of women who reduce all porn to some kind of evil, degenerative activity detached from reality as a shaming tactic are very telling. It's basically telling me you suck in bed without telling me you suck in bed. While weird, unreal or even despicable porn definitely exists, it's often quite vanilla and just about people fucking and enjoying themselves. Amateur content made by couples are incredible in popularity, and these people are neither 'trafficked' nor 'raped'. Basically, people wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 07:33 AM
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If you reduce all pornographic content to 'putting on a show like a porn star', and think it has nothing in common with what you perceive as 'normal sex', then I can only feel sorry for you and your partners. Also, yes, I am sure you are a better judge of what people you've never met enjoyed or didn't enjoy than someone who was their partner for x years.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 07:27 AM
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However big that minority is, they make up enough of the porn-watching viewers to get their preferences all over the front pages of free porn websites. Is that your argument? Wow. As for you, if ‘she doesn’t seem to mind’ is your goal for sex… well… It was sarcasm. In all of my relationships sex was good or great, the girls enjoyed the things I mentioned and more, and it was in no way 'worse' than any porn I'd be inclined to watch. I guess I was lucky to be with sexually expressive human beings …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 07:17 AM
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I'm a millennial man and not into anal at all. Most of the girls I've dated were into it/open. Most of my female friends have no problems with it, there's even some that really like it. What now? Whose anecdotal information-bubble based evidence is winning?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 06:59 AM
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It’s not men who use porn, per se, it’s men who use violent and degrading porn and do not recognize that the people in it are actors who are pretending to have fun for the camera. So a small minority of men with a degradation kink. Men who try to emulate what they see in porn when they actually get with a real woman generally make very bad lovers. What I've emulated from the type of porn I watched is enthusiastically eating pussy and how to go about it, a few positions, stimulating the clitoris/…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 06:55 AM
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My urge to date is usually killed quite fast by looking around on OLD. It's a fine tool for reinforcing misanthropy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 06:50 AM
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This is it, people on this sub just seem to all be Sith as they primarily deal with absolutes. a minority of men are addicted to porn hurr durr porn is evil, porn destroys men, all the men I dislike/don't agree with are porn fueled incel coomers! fuck you, I'm not like that! etc., rage and hilarity ensues, everyone loses sight on the crux of the issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 06:48 AM
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Isn't that because most women are already taken because they are being approached and pursued IRL (social situations, work, friends of friends)? None of my female friends are single. I know some single girls and, well... let's just say I understand why, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 06:38 AM
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One does not preclude the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 06:17 AM
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the vast majority of those who are opting out of pursuing sex and relationships are women. Is that the case? I know very few women who are strong, independent and happily single. Most of them have a man or are searching to find a man because they don't want to be single. They don't find it emotionally rewarding enough. It's actually a problem for me, because I explicitly don't want a relationship, and am looking for a more casual arrangement. IME that's the opposite of what most women are lookin…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 06:16 AM
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What if she has her own assets, or has a shmuck lined up with more assets?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 06:10 AM
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Hedonism is NOT a masculine trait. It’s degeneracy. According to who?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 06:08 AM
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Really selling myself here, right?) Lol, I love your humourous self-awereness. It's something that helps, and definitely better than denial, just don't forget to have compassion for yourself to go along with it. Putting yourself out there is probably the most important aspect, you need to reinforce social behavior and make it to a point where you're comfortable and not anxious to engage in it daily. Therapy/meds are just there to aid that process and help you deal with unsuccessful attempts (whi…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 05:58 AM
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Yes, but just looking at sexlessness and declining marriage rates is also not the full story, while incels tend to boil it down to 'its because both Stacy and Becky want Chad'. A lot of people who are in relationships or are single by choice won't want to marry - it's an outmoded concept heavily pushed by religion, and religiosity is declining rapidly. I would personally never marry or consider that an option, even though I had a few relationships and will likely be in others in the future Keep …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 05:51 AM
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Fair enough. That's one of the reasons I would never try picking up anyone to whom I am any sort of customer at the moment. But I don't think it's a good idea to mix business/work with romance in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 05:40 AM
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That's great! Maybe it would be beneficial to retry therapy while on drugs and trying to put yourself out there. My friend with anxiety attacks has great results with SSRIs. I'm not trying to be obnoxious here, but it's always good to have a second opinion. A lot of therapy does not work on the first, second or even third try, it's important to keep exploring different options and angles. Do you have any friends that you can talk to? As a person dealing with depression since 12yo (I am now 32) I…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 05:38 AM
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aside from work, I have full control over who I have relationships with As anyone should. If a guy is giving me vibes of aggression or violence, I don't socialize with him. Of course - me neither, and I'm a man, lol. I just hope you are aware of the selection bias in situations that you described - most men are not aggressive or violent and won't aggressively pursue you at work/on the street and then devolve into creepy stalkers. Most men will leave you alone, you just obviously have to deal wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 05:31 AM
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I think our 'introverted' grandpas just went about their life/business instead of wallowing in self-pity. They didn't have the social structure and forms of entertainment to get easy dopamine shots while 'getting by'. They had to put themselves in social situations constantly because that's how the world worked. Sooner or later, they got 'lucky', and those who didn't obviously aren't anyone's 'introverted grandpa' so that's the survivor bias. You say you were lucky to find someone, but that's ba…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 05:24 AM
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Whether you have a wonderful husband or not is immaterial to whether you have a healthy approach to half of the world's population - the importance of which should be obvious, I think. We're all here sharing the world and engaging in various interpersonal relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 05:19 AM
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So now you're projecting this distrust on men in general or what's the deal? As someone who grew up in an abusive household I am sorry this happened to you, but that approach seems like a very unhealthy way to deal with past trauma.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 05:10 AM
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It's because your feelings and perspective don't matter - you are not a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 05:08 AM
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I was talking about bars, events etc. Your entire whiny spiel is basically complaining it's difficult to meet people while being a socially-awkward introvert that doesn't enjoy socializing. It's like, holy shit Sherlock, you don't say. It's not about moving a goalpost - you just act like introvert pursuits of self-development, i.e. toning down or making some money, are automatically making you a 'catch'. They don't. People in general are looking for someone they can be comfortable with/feel good…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 04:59 AM
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What are you doing to fix your social anxiety and depression? Nobody wants to date someone who is a mess. I'm not trying to be mean here, it's just how it is, and mental issues won't go away on their own if you haven't been able to tackle them yourself thus far.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 04:42 AM
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I want things like OLD, bars, singles events, etc. to not suck so bad. They don't, they work out for normal people just fine all the time. When I was single, I tried like hell to be social, but it's just not my strongsuit and didn't produce leads. It's not on anyone except yourself that it's 'not your strongsuit'. There were always antisocial and/or introverted people and it was always their reality. The problem with OLD isn't that girls are looking for something other than LTR, it's that they e…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 04:38 AM
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Complaining about not being able to find women without socializing is like complaining you can't get ripped without stepping into a gym, it makes no damn sense. Socializing means meeting more people, and meeting more people means increasing your chance of finding someone to be in a relationship with if that's your perogative. It doesn't matter if you're introverted or not, and no, it's not always easy - on the contrary, it can be tedious and time consuming. All of that is still on you. Potential…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 04:22 AM
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No, I think most people who have this problem don't socialize enough and have small circles, and think OLD is a representation of real life. It's not, it's hot garbage full of people you wouldn't want to date anyway. I'm a HVM with the same problem, but I realize why - and it's because of the above reason. It's also because I have relationship standards which are outside of the realms of possibility for 90% of women, and I'm not event talking about the physical aspect. At the same time, I don't …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 04:00 AM
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I think most fit, hard-working, successful men would be utterly miserable in that life. Ah yes, the proverbial incel - highly driven, hard working successful powerlifter.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 03:39 AM
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Personally, I beat the old meat stick to at least a 1000 porn stars daily, preferably before my morning coffee. 100 is for losers and neckbeards.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 03:30 AM
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Ah, I see, it's not personal. You're only hyper-focused on this due to the imminent danger from nihilistic coomers. Got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 06:22 PM
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Why are you so worried about sex? Your post history suggests you're quite the active Christian. Does your religion not advocate sex for procreation and only within the confines of marriage, and classifies lust and spilling your seed as sins? Find yourself a nice, modest, religious woman and practice what you preach.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 06:10 PM
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1) Vast depression and misery is already here as most people toil away in jobs they hate for money that allows for the bare minimum, if even that. 2) Define 'large swath'. 3) Most men are salty about not getting casual, facing the reality of never being satisfied with their sex life and not having prospects to fulfill their fantasies/desires. This was always the case, today's society is just extremely sex obsessed and is constantly rubbing salt in that wound. As for worrying, like I said, other …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 05:55 PM
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cues ominous music
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 05:47 PM
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I'm more worried about the collapsing climate, depleting potable water sources, global pandemic, rapidly increasing economical instability/inequality, rising political tensions and growing social frictions. Pretty sure all of the above will fuck humanity over before the incels start the First Pussy Uprising.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 05:26 PM
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I devise a complex mathematical formula including observational and sensory data, general population statistics extrapolation and multi-dimensional psychological profiling. I then proceed to mull it over in my head obsessively to achieve the most efficient self-inflicted cock-block possible. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 04:22 PM
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So you don't have any? I don't use reddit as a source for legal information. I googled it and apparently it's rare and in very specific circumstances. In the end it's irrelevant, bottom line is don't be a drone and don't marry. Problem solved.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 09:04 AM
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On what grounds?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 08:31 AM
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oooh im so desperate to have this mystery solved for me Apparently you're not only desperate but unable to read with comprehension. you're so much better than me Alright, if you say so. I'll take it. so women divorce because of their own negative behaviour? No. u didnt sound very blackpill to me at first I'm not blackpill.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 08:15 AM
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I mean, it's only fair - you bring that up asif you don't realize the plethora of reasons why this might be the case, a lot of which related to why men might be wary to initiate it. I'm sure you can figure it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 07:37 AM
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I wrote a longer response but deleted it, as I feel I will not be making my point across. You avoided the angle of acceptance, to which I can add the aspect of desirability and discomfort with objectification - these are normal elements of sex and why most people will have qualms to use (that's what it is) prostitutes. Even if I fuck someone for fun, I will give her respect and due diligence, and everything around the sex itself (desirability, lack of toxic behavior, acceptance, no judgements et…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 07:15 AM
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That's because they are the devil's spawn!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 06:51 AM
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I wouldn't pay a hooker because I realize she's not doing it because she wants to, she's there to make cash, and that would make it uncomfortable. The thing about sex is mutual enjoyment, acceptance, and genuine fun. It's not about releasing sexual frustration only - I fap pretty well. Still, I'm not doing it for an ego boost or bragging rights. It just feels good, on all accounts, mental included.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 06:49 AM
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what happened
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 06:39 AM
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You're obviously lying because you have a pussy. Go make yourself useful and make a sammich or something. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 06:32 AM
1

You're obviously lying because you have a pussy. Go make yourself useful and make a sammich or something. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 06:32 AM
1

You're obviously lying because you have a pussy. Go make yourself useful and make a sammich or something. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 06:31 AM
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You're obviously lying because you have a pussy. Go make yourself useful and make a sammich or something. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 06:31 AM
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but the laws are doing the exact opposite by allowing women to take men's money against their will How so? If you're marrying, you're an idiot. If you're marrying without a prenup, you're a stupid idiot.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 06:30 AM
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Because if men are allowed casual sex but women aren’t who are all the men having sex with? They are 'allowed' but most of them are unable to obtain it because they don't posses whatever qualities are required. 'All the men' is actually a minority of men. I know a ~32yo guy who - and I quote - 'stopped counting after 300'. He's not even anything special, but definitely a brazen jackass, and chicks seem to dig that. Anyway, in their bitterness, some of the rest do the only reasonable cope - they …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 06:18 AM
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No, unless they are your friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 05:42 AM
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I do all of these but it doesn't matter - as in, I interact with women, IRL and on OLD, go on dates etc. and 90% of the time no fucks are given about these things. I don't go out bragging (because I don't care much for it), but eventually it comes out in small-talk. Nobody seems to care apart from gold diggers and desperate losers looking for something to attach themselves too. I'm neither a virgin (it's been 15 years) nor incel, but just saying. You're either overplaying these things a lot or I…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 05:33 AM
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IDK man, I just really like to fuck. Cuddling is nice too. Don't really give a flying fuck what others think about me. I would imagine, in a lot of cases, it's just that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 05:27 AM
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Anything is fine within the boundaries set in a given relationship. Breaking these boundaries without consent is cheating and it is wrong because it's a breach of trust and abandonment of honesty. Personally, I am okay with sexual exploration that means inviting other people etc. Everything is up to discussion based on the people involved, attitudes, emotional responses etc. Then again, I'm a liberal atheist anti-natalist. I treat my life as an adventure to be experienced. My bottom line is hone…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 06:20 PM
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I'm convinced they do it to feel better about themselves for being so 'good'. In reality, I've never seen more cruelty/bitching towards a woman than that coming from another woman. They are their worst enemies.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 06:10 PM
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oof
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 06:07 PM
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Roses are red, violets are blue, I want to smash, I hope you do too. That's about the only level of 'poetry' that might work on OLD. It's not a good environment for what you're looking for. Also, don't mistake compassion for pity.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 05:22 PM
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Since all other dependencies can be removed in today's world, there is only one incentive an independent, HVM/HVW may have to get into an LTR. That is creating a loving, mutually uplifting partnership that will enrich your life on all fronts and basically dial it up a few notches while at the same time providing comfort and a sense of belonging. That is extremely hard to find and some people may never find it, or take a really long time. Other than that, I would agree it's not worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 05:40 AM
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So this is basically the good old 'just go outside' gimmick? Never heard that one before. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 05:35 AM
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That's fine, there's indeed an abundance of suckers. If they are unable to resist the pussy spell then they fully deserve what they get - being used and made a fool. Same story as girls who get used and thrown away because they ignored red flags or refused to remove their rose tinted glasses. It's a failure of vetting, as well as having weak boundaries and being naive. You just happen to be one of the people that seems to enjoy taking advantage of it, which is fair game, the world is an ugly pla…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 05:30 AM
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I think he's completely missing the point. His view boils down to 'if ur not toxic but just average, it's okay, you don't have to do anything'. Thing is, you never said they do. You said someone should be willing to change if they want to improve their dating results. If an average girl is happy with average shmucks then, indeed, she doesn't need to do anything. If she wants better results, she should probably do something. For example, a fairly insecure, unfit couch-potato without too much ambi…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 05:17 AM
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No, because I dislike kids and don't plan on having any.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 05:03 AM
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A lot of men, especially with 'traditional values', basically want a housewife that will cook, clean, take care of kids and give up the pussy without complaining. Pretty much stuck im the 50s. When a woman has money, and is therefore independent, and can therefore leave at any time - that's a threat. Personally, I love women with money - because it works both ways. If it doesn't work out, I don't need to feel guilty that 'she's not gonna make it' or whatever bullshit. We split shared expenses. E…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 05:01 AM
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Talk it out while trying to reason, genuinely understand the other person's position, show empathy, and be willing to admit fault without venting on the other person. However, this only works if both parties are able to do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 01:07 AM
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Being 'established' is a lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 12:32 AM
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I mean, by date 3 that’s kind of when you know you like someone enough for a relationship. It’s actually quite common. Is it? What do you really know about a person after 3 meetings of initial social posturing (everyone trying to put their best foot forward)? They want a relationship with me, and that’s about it. I'm sure they do, most women are terrified of being alone. This is not a slight against you btw. I suppose it is manipulation in a way, but just to re-do the cycle over and over again a…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 09:23 PM
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I'm not saying any of that, I'm saying you seem to stay with them for whatever amount of time mainly motivated by smashing, whereas they likely expect something more serious from you. Whether you pay for dates to feel better about it is beyond the point really. It's super weird to me how a 'relationship' can be on the table after 3 dates. These seem like either very insecure women or ones that simply want FWB but have whatever hang-up to call it what it is. As for manipulation, don't you think t…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 08:51 PM
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This. He also can't forget being positive and himself whilst in the shower.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 08:44 PM
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The biggest detriment to me is my height, I know that, and I know it essentially locks me out of casual sex (which is what I really want) which depresses me. But relationships have always been easy. So what I'm really getting from this is that you are going through the motions and getting into these 'relationships' quickly to get laid. Are both parties aware of what this is, or do the girls think they finally found a 'great guy' and 'loving bf' and then do the surprised Pikachu face? I'm not eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 08:40 PM
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Lol @ humble brag. Anyway, I'm a bit shocked reading through this thread. I guess I must be crazy and misunderstand what a 'girlfriend' is. For me, it's someone I decided to be long term with, am exclusive, and have serious feelings for. It would require a high level of alignment and compatibility. It's not a random chick I've been on on 2-3 dates with (what the fuck) or someone I have sex with casually (FWB). That sounds retarded and immature. So, taking this into account, it takes anywhere fro…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 08:34 PM
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I've been playing chess since 8-9yo and generally like quirky/smart women, so I guess I have a clear bias going on.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 01:36 PM
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Her weirdness is an added turn on for me. I generally like unique features or quirks. The thing I can't stand is the 'stereotypically' attractive chick - the type where if you out 10 of them alongside each other you can barely tell the difference. Does nothing for me. It's a shame so many girls aspire to that and sometimes so fucked up shit in the process.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 01:35 PM
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The number of gay/bi men is still quite small, so the pool only grows a little bit there. So your evil plan all along is to make it bigger! /s It's small, but the community is very... willing, lol. Casual sex becomes really easy when women are removed from the equation. Most of my gay friends enjoy this, but some of them struggle to find a more romantic LTR. However the number of women who won't date you for being bi is quite high. So you lose on that end. I mean, you filter out shallow people t…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 05:09 AM
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Well, if you say so. Glad you found yourself and (presumably) are living your best life. I infer you also like girls, so that's the entire population at your disposal.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 04:57 AM
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Do you not think it's mostly because they don't want to admit their feelings even to themselves for fear of external - or even internal - judgement? I mean there has to be SOMETHING before that - an interest, thinking about a good looking friend too much, a suspicious tingle, a fantasy, anything. I don't believe people go through life without ANY such response to the same sex, then make out with a guy and are like 'damn, dick sounds good after all'.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 04:51 AM
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That doesn't make sense. Sexual attraction/tension is something you feel from within, you won't trigger it out the ass just because you 'try it', unless you're already closeted. I had a gf that was into guy-guy action once, while I never felt any inclination for it. I'm an open minded dude and have no worries about my 'manliness', we often went to party in a LGBT club (she was bi), dudes often tried to pick me up. During one party I decided to humor her, as well as explore my sexuality using the…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 04:41 AM
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Being a simple kind of man, something you love and understand. Not worrying about finding yourself, following your heart and nothing else.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 04:05 AM
1

What is love?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 04:02 AM
1

The shit you’re talking about are for things that the average person either never experience or do once in a lifetime. Wasn't his entire point that it shouldn't?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 03:55 AM
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That's a shitty thing to say - being gay is not something one 'becomes' or 'stops'. Don't involve LGBT people in this drivel.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 03:53 AM
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I'm feeling a lot more tism from this post than anything on OLD, ngl.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 03:46 AM
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IDGAF about celebrities - is that okay? I also typically don't rank people, they either make me tingle or don't. Sometimes conventionally unattractive women do, often conventionally attractive ones don't. But so as at least attempt to address the OP, recently I've found the girl from Queen's Gambit very attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 12:49 AM
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Women will insist on not understanding this, either because they have options or are not interested in relationships, or both. Why they are often called the 'empathetic' gender is a mystery to me. It's pretty much a meme.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 09:30 PM
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I really don't understand what is so confusing in my post. A relationship can be committed, i.e. a LTR, or casual, i.e. FWB. I have a feeling 'relationship' for you means only a committed LTR/marriage. For me it means whatever socio-romantical or socio-sexual agreement two or more adults want to establish. It can be open, closed, mono, poli, conservative, slutty, whatever, different people have different needs and preferences. Personally, I have no interest in marriage, it is not aligned with my…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 09:25 PM
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I don't understand? You want me to clarify the advantage of having options in life? Having multiple options mean selecting the best relationship, or none at all - depending on the situation and people involved - with the knowledge that other options will appear in some time anyway so it's no big deal. For LTR this means waiting for someone really compatible to come along, instead of settling because otherwise you'll be alone all you life. Personally, I'm past this phase and have no issues anymor…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 07:57 PM
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It's really simple - having options at any given time for a relationship of my choice, whether committed or casual. I don't, and won't, as the majority of men won't, therefore will never be fully achieved/happy in that aspect of life. Not much that can be done about it apart from moving on.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 06:39 PM
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Being fecicious by making a reverse-post is at most pointing out the ridiculousness of OPs generalizations, if he even understands the irony. Is it challenging any of the claims he made directly? Not really. It's a bunch of generalizations thrown back at him.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 06:20 PM
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How are you challenging OPs view? Some automodding is in order here. lolololoo
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 06:13 PM
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Probably because it's difficult to distinguish between confidence and bragging on the internet, which is in itself a toxic environment that brings out the worst in people. If it makes you feel any better, whenever I brought up something about myself worth mentioning/taking pride, I was immediately taken down by both men and women. Personally, I love confident and driven women IRL. Unfortunately, there is a fine line between confidence and arrogance and most people cross it without looking back.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 03:42 PM
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'Handsome' is subjective. Also, IRL, your personality can cause you to be perceived as much hotter than you actually are. This is why all the guys that do very well have certain qualities in common - extroverted, self-confident, charismatic, charming, able to flirt easily. This is also why introverts will never be very successful. You can learn/improve certain of these traits, which will take tremendous effort, but it will never feel 'natural' and will always be mentally draining. People are who…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 02:49 PM
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Actually, no, I don't agree with part of your premise, it seems too much like Women are Wonderful™. I've seen A LOT of nasty women here who enjoy shitting on men regardless of whether it's called for or not. It's a genuinely fucked up place, but that's the internet for you. That's why I don't believe anyone who is in a truly happy relationship, well adjusted and has a healthy social circle would post here regularly. The content is just usually not conducive to anything other than spilling out vi…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 10:14 PM
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I'm sorry they are often oppressed by societies running largely on harmful delusions. I wish they wouldn't, they deserve better than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 05:09 PM
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I've never once seen that happen. Every high-n guy I knew also had a line of women wanting to be in a relationship as well. If he's fucking them he can have a relationship with them. Pretty much this. The same girls are broken and desperate because the guy won't be 'theirs' and refuses to commit, but will continue fucking him until they run themselves into the ground mentally. I don't think I've ever directly seen or heard of a scenario where an emotionally stable, confident, high value woman us…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 04:20 PM
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This 'view' screams butthurt projection, I don't see how it can be 'challenged'.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 04:07 PM
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Lack of father figure. They didn't have a role model for masculine qualities at home and nobody to help them figure out how to handle girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 08:44 AM
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Yeah, it would be a problem. I generally expect the same amount of effort from my partner as I put forth myself. Temporary weakness or issues are fine, I will support and help out however I can. If it's a long stint of just not caring to try anymore, then it's a no go. That being said, I would not date someone long-term who isn't health-oriented in their diet (which means both quality and portion control) and scoffs at sport/is a couch potato. Our values would be simply misaligned and the clash …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 09:45 PM
7

I'm 33 in 6 weeks.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 07:08 PM
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No, I feel relieved.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 02:44 PM
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C+. I've been in LTRs most of my adult life. They were ok and I don't feel like I wasted my time on them, there wasn't much drama etc. It was decent. I managed to explore my fantasies a bit - i.e. engaged in a few FFMs with one of the girlfriends. Sexually, all these relationships were good. Why the C+? Because I feel I don't have as much agency in my dating life as I'd like. Also, when I am single, I struggle quite a bit. I'd also like to be able to have more casual relationships instead of LTR…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 07:41 PM
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I'm not interested in 'winning' anything, it's fucking reddit, lmao. The fact that you bring this up is hilarious and says a lot about what you're trying to 'achieve' here with your word salad. Anything else?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 03:08 AM
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Yeah, I'm done with the topic. Now I'm just calling you out for being a jackass that fancies himself an intellectual. It's both funny and sad. Mostly sad. Do you have anything else? Come on. Take the bait.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 02:38 AM
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You're like an insecure child - your entire 'argument' is basically 'it is so because I say so and you're stupid!'. Weak. Also reeks of Dunning-Kruger.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 02:19 AM
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You realize repeating yourself all the time about something being 'correct' doesn't make it so just because it makes you feel good, right? No, of course you don't. You keep bringing up the 'nature of reality' like someone who doesn't understand the distinctions between terms like religion, theism, agnosticism and what they philosophically imply. You're delusional and, like often is the case, arrogant in your delusions. You can't see it because you don't want to. It's worse than talking to a blac…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 01:25 AM
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I guess you, like God, just work in mysterious ways. /s You're not that deep bro. There isn't much here to understand, you're just a religious apologist that didn't like my original response. Keep telling yourself that your shit don't stink and is 'less false' than any other made up, baseless claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 12:33 AM
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I wasn't conditioned into anything, I was a far more formidable atheist than you up until the age of 25. You don't know anything about me or how 'formidable' (lol) my atheism is. It's not a contest, we aren't in elementary anymore. I'm sorry that, for whatever emotional reason, you were inclined to buy into a fairytale as an adult. I guess critical thinking is not your forte. You should try not believing whatever's trendy. Nice gaslighting there.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 12:27 AM
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It is equally ridiculous, you were just conditioned to like one better. Which one is 'more false' (lol) is a moot point. There is no judgement day, this isn't the terminator.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 11:47 PM
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Didn’t the American government literally launch a massive campaign against obesity in the 80s which still runs to this day? That seems to be working out just great! /s
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 08:08 PM
1

What's a 'femboy lifestyle'?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 08:05 PM
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She's not, get over it. There's no imaginary friend watching and judging us.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 07:48 PM
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It's not about women. Many, if not most people, are idiots just going through the daily motions.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 05:40 PM
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If that's what you need to tell yourself to make sense of the world then who am I to tell you otherwise. Enjoy your dog.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 04:08 PM
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I guess we occupy different realities then.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 03:25 PM
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I hope that works out for you. Different people see different things as 'success'. A lot of people you are trying to argue with are divorced or were involved in multiple relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 09:17 AM
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You are a teenage girl with limited life and relationship experience trying to argue an idealized position with jaded old men and/or bitter red/black pillers. Neither of you are 'right'. Also, good luck with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 09:06 AM
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Who hurt you bruh?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 10:38 PM
3

Wow.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 03:06 PM
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Yes, I'm sure that's exactly what was asked. Around 1% of people are asexual. You're not being clever right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 11:37 AM
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Because loving and being loved is a normal human need, and a good relationship with the right person can greatly enrich one's life. Did subs like these warp people to the point that such things need explaining? Sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 04:12 AM
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If they're very jaded red pillers then probably yes, but you might want to remember that it's a minority of men. Reddit is not a reflection of how 'men' or 'women' are, fortunately.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 09:35 PM
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I'm not calling other guys simps without the entire story, or whatever its equivalent on reddit is. Do you feel personally attacked or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 09:31 PM
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No, we don't. Simping is going out of your way and abandoning personal boundaries/self-respect to be excessively nice for prospects of being 'rewarded' with pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 09:22 PM
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Doing nice things for a person you are dating is not simping.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 09:20 PM
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My opinion is that you are quite judgemental in your take. I would agree that obsessing over anything is a red flag. Obsession is a strong word though.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 07:58 PM
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Simping is not 'treating a person well'. Treating a person well, if said person deserves such treatment, is just being a well adjusted adult. Simping is treating someone too well, usually at your own expense and while abandoning any personal boundaries, regardless of whether the person deserves it or not. It is basically going out of your way and often allowing someone to take advantage of you with the expected result of getting pussy for being 'nice'.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 07:43 PM
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The boyfriend sounds like a real catch.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 03:29 PM
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Why would I give a fuck about what a random person on the internet flashing her titties for money complains about? I don't know her exact grievance, she may be out of touch, but again - why would anyone care? The world and internet is full of out of touch morons, why not ignore it and move on instead of giving them more traction? Is this really worth 'discussing'?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 02:31 PM
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I don't really care about them. I don't look at any OF because I don't see a point in paying some insipid cunt (which they often are) for her frankly unimpressive attempts at being naughty. The saddest part for me is really the audience, who pays to get noticed and have some kind of interaction with the 'performer', which they normally wouldn't get with porn. It's basically desperate simp coomers. Then again, there are people buying bathwater and farts in jars, we truly live in a society. If it …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 02:25 PM
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I'm not interested in marriage so I couldn't really give two shits and half a fuck about taking advice from a 'happily married guy'. Glad it's working out for you. Hope it keeps working out a few years down the line. Also, username seems to check out, lol. /edit To address your CMV: no, don't do that unless several dates down the line where you are absolutely sure that's what you want and the approach is 100% mutual.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 10:29 PM
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When you're in Texas look behiiiind you - cuz that's where a dick pick's gonna be.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 10:04 PM
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You seem to be vastly exaggerating the importance of 'putting yourself out there' in casual ways as a way to get sex/relationships. If it's you on your profile photo then you are also doing it from a position of a conventionally attractive guy - aka 'let them eat cake' attitude lacking in self-awereness. Is sitting alone at home setting a man up for failure? Sure, for various reasons - from decreasing their odds to fucking up their mental state. That being said, reducing the struggle of men to '…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 04:21 PM
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Are you trolling?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 04:08 PM
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Do the men with bad faith arguments justify ignoring all men? According to many women on this sub - yes. Shared responsibility for the collective, for both genders, is basically the running theme.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 02:13 PM
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You sound like the kind of guy I'd swipe left on. Good. Ostracizing behavior can put you in danger from random men on the internet. Ostricizing can be as simple as disengaging and unmatching. Danger averted, there you go.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 04:21 AM
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If that's what you believe then by all means go for it. I won't be taking your advice. Glad the 'discussion' is over.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 12:54 AM
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Not sure if this counts as flirting with MGTOW or not, but I stopped 'taking initiative' with women as most of them usually understand it - bending myself backwards for a chance of attention. Why? 1) Most women are not worth it. 2) Women usually don't bring as much to the table as I do, or do not have a compatible approach to life (my lifestyle is not mainstream). 3) It's a waste of time and is psychologically draining. 4) The meaningful LTRs in my life didn't require me to do it, I've met the w…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 11:16 PM
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The first three points are invalid tbh because they don't hurt men. Sure, if you're a sociopath. Point #1 is bullshit also, unless you think dinner = sex in which case you're wrong I think adults should buy their own shit instead of expecting strangers to do that for them. Crazy notion, I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 11:00 PM
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Welcome
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 10:30 PM
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Online dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 09:20 PM
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I am not sure what you are on about. I am 'solving' the problem of OLD by not acting like a douchebag there myself and calling out people who do regardless of their gender. When I decide it's more of a negative than positive force in my life I stop using it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 09:18 PM
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I don't know the answer to this question, but you seem like a good start.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 07:19 PM
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Most of the things you mentioned also happen to men and have either happened to me or close friends. It seems you made up your mind about women being 'victims' on dating apps and that everything that's wrong with OLD is the fault of men and their collective behavior. I don't feel like arguing this anymore, especially as I've stopped using OLD. More power to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 07:14 PM
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I would say that depends on the man. I am honest with everyone equally and so are people from my circles. I guess I don't hang around and befriend douchebags. As a man I also don't know the intentions of a random woman on OLD. I've encountered it all, including: being used for free dinner being used as a rebound being used as an emotional crutch girls looking to cheat on their partner This is why I'm an equal opportunist in admitting that people on OLD are mostly terrible regardless of gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 07:01 PM
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I don't do any of these things on OLD and still get treated like a ghost or piece of shit by women 90% of the time. I am not responsible nor can I influence the behavior of other men. I can as easily turn it around and say the onus is on women to reject those men and ostracize this kind of behavior instead of fucking them. Does this kind of generalization sound fair to you? Yeah, I didn't think so.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 06:52 PM
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Religious, fat, snarky bio, kids, pseudo-artist, pseudo-intellectual, dog/horse obsessed, no bio, no pics, negative/jaded bio, thinks sarcasm/Netflix/sleeping are hobbies, 'I don't know why I'm here', 'I'm looking for a husband', anti-vaxx, intentionally oversexualized photos, IG/snap advertisement in bio, astrology, Kardashian wannabe types (fake lips, fake hair, fake lashes, fake nails, fake XYZ etc). Sadly, this disqualifies 70% women on OLD, but I consider that a bullet dodged - IME OLD is a…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 04:47 PM
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I would argue it's not common, it's just that they gather in places like this and you are exposed to a concentrated dose.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 11:33 PM
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And 10% cute kitten, cow and duck pictures! I wish!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 06:18 PM
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I came to this sub to learn something, understand new perspectives etc. Turns outs it's 90% garbage unloaded by broken people to vent their frustrations. It's almost as if it's the internet - who knew?! /s Anyway, you're totally right, there is very little worthwhile discussion here and it's mostly a constant clash between misogynists and misandrists. If anything, after engaging with this sub, my opinion on women only got worse. I need to constantly try to remind myself that reddit is not a good…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 05:22 PM
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Bad acting. You are talking about bad acting. Porn has some of the worst actors on the planet, to base your idea of “enthusiasm” on porn actor’s bad performance is hilarious and I’d assume you are extremely inexperienced and/or autistic. I specifically said that's NOT what I'm talking about in the next paragraph, lol. To purposely ignore that just to get your lame jab in there is hilarious and I'd assume you are extremely insecure and/or autistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 02:47 PM
1

It's not.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 02:41 PM
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Survivor bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 06:56 AM
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Yeah, it works without fail, provided you can get in her pants first.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 06:54 AM
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They'll still keep selecting these men for unrelated factors that actually often stem from their sexual inadequacy - overinflated egos, obnoxious demenour etc. I lay the pipe magnificently - having pipe to work with, knowing how to work it, being long distance and actually putting in effort. In the relationships I had sex was always great/good and was never an issue. Thing is, most girls will never know. I had female friends assuming that I'm poor in the sack before for no reason, lol. It was th…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 06:51 AM
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There's a saying that goes: there are lies, damn lies and statistics. This must be such case. Maybe they included fat American grannies on mobility scooters, idk. Just doesn't seem like reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 06:39 AM
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The USA is a cesspool Full stop. or any other European country, the average women is not obese pigs thus the day the marketplace is more balanced Can confirm.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 06:04 AM
1

Always knew Murica is a fucked up place but damn.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 06:03 AM
1

75% of women are overweight. That means 3 out of 4 girls I see on the street everyday (Europe) should be fat, which is not the case - fat chicks are like 10%. I've traveled to the US quite extensively and while it was much worse, it was nowhere near that figure. Are the fatties just hiding at home or what am I missing?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 05:59 AM
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My goal is to consistently have options for relationships that I desire during a given point in my life - be they serious or casual - with people who I find attractive. I have failed to achieve it and I have no delusions about ever achieving it - I'm a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 05:54 AM
1

Define what it means to 'fuck like a pornstar'.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 05:48 AM
1

You have a typically attractive face to the point that height can be overlooked, good job. Please spare us the survivor bias spiel about 'much personality bruh'. We get it - boring neckbeards are boring, anyone who thinks otherwise and has expectations is delusional. That's not what most complaining is about around here.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 05:32 AM
2

Don't feed the troll. It's the same broken record all over again.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 05:22 AM
1

I've been lurking in this sub for more than a year and I don't see the 'wave of hypocritical white knights' you are speaking of. There are some guys who vocalize this view but they are usually either normal or sexually successful (aka they fuck) and don't have the moral proclivity to chase after chastite virgins dressed in white.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 05:16 AM
0

This.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 05:12 AM
2

You're not the sharpest knife in the drawer, are you mate? You have been given a concise explanation and still refuse to grasp the point. Women who 'worry' about a man's future within an LTR will be directly impacted by that future on every level, seeing as they will be a part of it. You feeling 'icky' because the girl you're seeing had one too many dick/pussy is just your personal hangup. You are free to have it and preselect partners accordingly, but don't act like these two things are tantamo…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 05:10 AM
0

The whole 'porn ruined' spiel is mostly projection and a reductionist shut-down IME. The best thing about porn is seeing women be extremely eager and into it, fucking like their life depended on it. Keep in mind I'm explicitly not talking about studio produced fake bullshit with over the top moaning, cringy 'dirty talk' etc - that's actually a turn off. I'm just talking about completely letting go and getting into the sex without shame or hangups. Most of my partners were like that and it was gr…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 12:15 AM
1

Men start thinking about it when they lack self-confidence, which usually stems from receiving more negative than positive affirmation from their peers and surroundings. I would agree that thinking about this makes you more 'beta', but the only reason you start thinking about it in the first place is because you are 'beta'. Normal, well adjusted people who are well received socially and are self-confident about it don't ponder this. It is also important to note two things, as I'm sure I'll be la…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 09:31 PM
1

Successful to me means being apple to attract many people and having choice when it comes to entering into relationships with them - be it LTRs or platonic like FWB or ONS. It means having control over your dating life and being able to procure these relationships with ease, without heavily compromising your standards or having to 'settle', and without going years sexless if that's not your choice. By that metric, most men are not successful at dating. By the same metric, most women are successf…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 04:31 PM
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It's possible, but if she puts sufficient effort she will still be desirable to many men, and will eventually find one she likes. Going to a 9-10/10 in this situation is unreal and ridiculous to expect, but she can go to 6-7 which is enough to be attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 04:26 PM
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I don't. However, if a suitable person comes around, I will think about it - mostly because the odds for that are extremely low and it would be a shame to miss out.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 04:21 PM
15

He was literally a criminal when women and men with money elevated him to model status because he was attractive to women. I have a feeling he's not your type and you're projecting?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 02:48 PM
2

Intelligence is the number one factor to me when considering LTR. Intelligence and personality can make a woman in my eyes go from 'meh' to 'damn she hot AF'. Intelligent people are just fun to hang around long term - they can engage in meaningful discourse, have a wide perspective, aren't judgemental, are curious, think critically. They are also usually better in bed. That being said, there are far too many people who think they are intelligent when in reality they are anything but.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 02:46 PM
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I don't think it is because he looks good I think it is because he has become a model. He is literally paid to look good.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 02:20 PM
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r/humblebrag
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 02:04 PM
5

True. People are so fucking fake on dating apps it's disgusting. They are either afraid to show who they really are, or maybe just boring, because all profiles basically look the same and cater to the same standards. It's a sad state of affairs.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 07:17 PM
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Gotta lol at the 'dress nice' posts here lmao. Hint: 'nice' will mean different things for different women coming from different circles and subcultures. Some chicks will like a dude in a leather jacket, jeans and black tee, others a dude in baggy pants, others a dude dressed like her dad.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 08:56 PM
1

Because it's not the fact of remarrying itself that I take issue with - it would be unreasonable to stay single for the rest of your life. 'Male tendencies' lol. Get fucked.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 12:57 PM
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Lmfao what does this have anything to with you? blatant projection Damn you stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 09:24 AM
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I never was or will be married, because it's fucking stupid and an antiquated notion. So much for the 'blatant projection'.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 01:58 AM
9

Nothing aids the grieving process like fresh dick I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 07:39 PM
2

I take all of the shit you mentioned for granted. As I man it's obvious to me I need to have my own place, it needs to be a nicely arranged space, and spotless. This is not because anyone 'expects' me to have it, I don't care, it's just an enjoyable day to day situation. Literally no chick I've met on tinder give a fuck about any of these.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 09:56 PM
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No worries Wayne, it's big enough for the three of us.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 01:59 AM
4

If you think having any of the physical qualities you outlined as important is enough, you are being as delusional as the people who put 0 effort and expect amazing results. You're basically pushing the premise of 'just don't be a hideous troll'. Yeah, thanks Captain Obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 06:09 PM
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Yeah, I work remotely since 6 years, but an office environment saturated with middle aged married people wouldn't be conducive to meeting anyone anyway. I've been going to the gym for several years but I don't think that's a good way to meet women at all. They either come there with boyfriends or want to be left alone, which is understandable - you go there to work out, not date. I've seen the 'club' thing mentioned over and over again, but what the fuck are those anyway? I'm not in college anym…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 05:43 PM
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I have no idea what your point is. I pursue normal women in and below my league and I wouldn't get laid if my life depended on it (currently 14 months), as I lack whatever it is necessary to do it. Probably not attractive and socially charismatic enough, even though I'm far from a basement dweller and able to get on with people alright. While I can tell myself all kind of stories, including that these women don't deserve me (often this would actually be true), that won't change the fact that ult…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 05:00 PM
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I'm unable to get laid as it is, having very reasonable standards, how is making them ridiculous going to help?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 09:36 AM
2

This is some next level tism.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 09:13 PM
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What does that even mean? You can be happy with yourself but still feel unhappy about lack of meaningful human contact, be it romantic or otherwise. IMO a person who can really do things alone for prolonged periods of time (years) and enjoy themselves/be happy constantly because 'I love myself' has a few screws loose. I can't begin to imagine the level of egocentrism? Like, I want to interact with other people and see what they think. I already know my thoughts quite well. Or do you mean a perso…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 08:35 PM
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This.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 12:40 AM
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Because being an egotistical twat became a social norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 12:19 AM
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Nah, I've had all of those since 27, now at 32 shit just got better. If you want I can elaborate. It doesn't matter. It's about being super-sociable, conventionally attractive and unshakable confidence that you flaunt by mostly insipid behavior. I also think a lot of women are just 'normal' and are overwhelmed by people who have their shit very much together and have various interests etc. They are focused on the basic daily shit and usually collapse in front of Netflix after work.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 07:52 AM
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Women are attracted to fuckbois because, in their understanding*, they are confident/attractive/charming/fearless etc. It has nothing to do with providing, it's about excitement. *quite often these men are either cringy sociopaths or masking their insecurities with audacious behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 01:46 AM
3

Take a few deep breaths and your medicine for the day. It's okay, it's going to be alright. Shhhh.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 11:42 PM
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IDGAF about the lives of celebrities and their hijinx. I've also never seen this behavior in my social groups. To answer the question, I feel it depends on the exact situation and context.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 11:32 PM
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No, but I never go out of my way to bring up my income/material status.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 11:25 PM
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Many women on Tinder are jaded as fuck due to past shitty experience - on and off Tinder - stemming from their own poor decisions. I'm always amazed how quickly they judge men and project their own delusions on someone they known nothing about. I've had chicks make all kind of crazy assumptions about me, sometimes being downright rude, which totally turned me off to pursue anything with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 11:20 PM
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Yeah, that's why I followed up explaining this is from an European perspective. America sux.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 01:01 AM
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I make 6 figures, as I'm a tech contractor. My last LTR was also from tech and made a bit more than me. As for my preference, it would be someone fully financially independent and able to split expenses. I am in no way interested in money being a power play nor convenience factor in a relationship. Some kind of higher education would be preferable as there is a strong correlation between that and having a capacity for intellectual discourse, a curious approach to certain aspects of the world etc…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 08:20 PM
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Okay bro, don't get all nirvana on me. I am but a faulty human.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/21 10:05 PM
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Did you miss the 'long term' part or? I'm not talking about weeks. I'm talking about years. Being happy alone doesn't mean your libido stops or you don't need intimacy anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/21 09:30 PM
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Isn't all this (PPD and similar places) about getting laid or attracting a partner though? Or complain about the inability to do so. What you presented is a healthy philosophy for life but very few people are able to tolerate long term loneliness in healthy ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/21 07:57 PM
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It's pretty fucking stupid to judge people based on appearance choices like having tattoos and piercings. Many people have them nowadays and are perfectly well adjusted human beings that have their shit together. /edit LMAO at the bigot parade getting butthurt about calling out their shallow bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 05:47 PM
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Well one condition is that Stacy's mom has got to have it going on.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 09:45 AM
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Most of the shitty lovers I heard being complained about IRL were insufferable doofuses or borderline sociopaths - you know, the guys with an unreasonably overinflated ego, in love with themselves, always doing stuff to be in the center of attention, not giving AF etc. These men attract women because women think they are 'confident'. Turns out the same men still think of themselves as absolute units even after regularly pulling off a performance comprising of 5 mins of sad pumping. Being a good …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 09:19 AM
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Hardly any men do that anymore IRL, unless you have specific context of doing smth together (i.e. hobbies, parties etc), and even there it's not common. Welcome to the 2020s, when OLD replaced dating and men stopped giving a fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 01:18 AM
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You're living the experience of 80% (or more) of men, congrats. I've put tons of effort over several years to be above average and was never asked out, asked for a number or approached. It was always on me to make everything happen. The good news is, since you mention somewhere you have a decent body, is that with minimum effort it should get better eventually.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 01:14 AM
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That sounds like some premium horseshit. We aren't taught that womanly traits are objectively bad, we are taught it's bad to express them in ourselves as it's not 'manly'. However, when expressed in women, we are supposed to love and admire them. It's perfectly possible to like women, there are women in my life that I liked and/or like, and it's not always romantic, sometimes it's just normal friendships without sexual tension. What I dislike is shitty human beings, and a lot of those turn out t…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 10:57 PM
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Any list or quality they will give you here is worthless - even if the dude checks all the boxes but doesn't have 'the thing', it won't work.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 10:47 AM
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Probably because dating in your 30s is fucking shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 11:52 PM
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If you are compatible enough and like each other on a personal level enough, then you can. All my FWB (2) turned into LTR, because we loved spending time together on top of good sex, and wanted more. If you don't click in that way, then no amount of fucking will help. However, withholding sex as some kind of power move also won't help. It will basically lead to 2 outcomes: 1) The dude splitting because there's no sex, in which case you're not getting fucked, which might not be great for you sinc…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 03:35 PM
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This sub has helped me with it because I’m starting to understand the motives of men a little more and how they differ from women. This sub is 90% garbage by people who have serious issues and would be better off seeing a therapist. You might want to keep that in mind and take everything you see here with a boulder of salt.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 02:57 PM
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That's all just a different type of success though. Being pretty for 15 years of your life doesn't mean anything when your dead either. Yep, exactly. Which is why I don't understand the judgemental and morally loaded responses in this thread. Not saying you're participating in that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 02:53 PM
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All I'm saying is that ultimately it doesn't matter what awards you won or how much money you made when you're lying on your death bed. What will matter is how you lived your life and what experiences you had, or what you missed out on while chasing irrelevant bullshit that are deemed by society as remedies for happiness. If awards and money are truly what makes you happy then go ahead, I've no issues with that. I also have no issues with people focusing on other things, even if they can be cons…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 01:32 PM
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No, that's ridiculous. I want people who find me attractive to go out with me if I also find them attractive. That's about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 01:26 PM
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Because my standards are not unreasonable and within or below my league already. Lowering them further would mean forcing myself to date people that I find repulsive, which is defeating the purpose of dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 11:19 AM
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Achievements fade too, success is a lie, it's all irrelevant shit imposed on us by society, in the end we're dust in the wind.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 08:30 AM
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Who would have thought that a late-stage techno-capitalist society comprised mostly of ignorant, shallow, egotistical people and narcissists would have loneliness issues, lmao. Empathy, humility and honesty are not in demand. What do you think we should we as a society do with the problem of rising loneliness to not end up like Japan? Nothing, grab popcorn and watch it burn spectacularly. Maybe something more worthwhile will rise up from those ashes.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 06:50 PM
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I can’t imagine having to sit through 10 dates to find 2 with chemistry. These are perfectly fine coffees, which usually last 1-1.5h, and are full of talking - it's not 'sitting through' anything as the people have mostly been vet earlier by some texting. My bottom line is if I don't see the girl excited to meet me again then I don't pursue it further, I don't have time nor will to chase lackluster relationships with people who aren't into me. I do most of the vetting before the date. As do I, b…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 09:10 AM
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If you’re on a date you’re dating LOL. No. Drop the semantics. If 80% of the time you don’t make it to a second date you’re doing it wrong Yes, I guess I'm doing it wrong for having standards or not imposing my company on someone when we clearly didn't click on the first meeting. Good thing you're out there to do it 'right'. but that would certainly explain not wanting to pick up the check. I'm not willing to pick up anything else than a coffee for someone who isn't a familiar person to me, beca…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 05:23 PM
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If you have opposite sex friends, do you treat them as your equal? Yes. exact topics you would a same sex friend, give them the same type of help, banter with them the same way, etc? Also yes. Or do you hide certain thoughts/talking points from them, watch your language around them, avoid helping them with stuff or do it less than for your same sex friends? No. It is strange that some people believe that men and women either cannot be friends at all, or that men are biologically forced to treat …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 02:12 PM
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First or even second date is not 'dating'. 80% of the time you won't continue with a person past the first date as there's not going to be any chemistry, so maliny it into a big thing and footing the bill is pretty much being a massive sucker.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 10:20 AM
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Alright, didn't realize I'm talking to an MD over here, my bad. I'll leave you to your roids then. Happy gainz!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 05:06 PM
1

I've been lifting for 15 years without any boosters, have plenty of friends from the 'industry' who are PTs, athletes, doctors etc. and they'd disagree with your notions, as do I. But hey, it's your body, so you do you. Not sure why you're so obviously triggered if you're so sure of the validity of your position? Eat dem roids and pay no heed to my ignorance my dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 02:23 PM
1

Sure bro, whatever you say. Go get them roid gainz, it's a totally sensible thing to do for an amateur lifter.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 01:32 PM
1

I'm not a feminist by any stretch of the imagination. I just don't think that men who can't get their wives to fuck them make up the best of us. I guess it works out for them in the end seeing they can still get your wife to fuck them?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 10:04 AM
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steroids can easily be healthy and their benefits can far outweigh the costs if the right compound, dosage and auxiliaries are chosen. Keep telling yourself that. The funny thing is that most people using roids nowadays are gymbro fuckbois that are nowhere near their natural limit of attainable physique, and wouldn't know good exercise form if it fucking ran over them, lol. Gotta love them - they roid up for a cycle, get some strength and muscle gains, then get injured and deflate. Ridiculous sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 10:03 AM
1

Detaching love from sex may sometimes be a sign of emotional maturity. But it's also a sign of them having previously slept around a lot. Not really. It may or may not be the case. Also 'a lot' is subjective. I'd wager that in the majority of cases, in fact, detachment of love from sex is indicative more so of those very same issues you described "toxic girls who put out and then get progressively more fucked up" having than it is of emotional maturity. I wouldn't make that wager. Besides, I alr…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 05:00 AM
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I disagree, stop using sex to keep people 'hostage' or judging people's quality based on their sexual preferences. It's perfectly doable to have sex without love and not betray your partner in a committed relationship. Being able to detach the 'deep emotional connection' from sex is not a red flag nor sign of any issues, on the contrary, it can be a sign of a highly mature and developed emotional life. The toxic girls who put out and then get progressively more fucked up aren't the ones 'detache…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 02:16 AM
1

Was this list made up by Ben Shapiro by any chance?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 02:17 PM
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That's a great question. I stopped being reliant on those things with my mother when I was a teenager because, lo and behold, I have hands too. When looking for a partner, I'm not looking for a new mommy. I would personally feel bad not distributing mundane chores fairly - asif I'm not capable of looking after myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 07:17 PM
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If it's an OLD first date, I always keep it strictly to a 1h coffee date. I'll pick a nice place (not Starbucks) but that's about the amount of effort I'm willing to exert for a stranger. The focus will be conversation, and it's usually enough to discern whether we want to continue. If we want to see each other again, I'll offer drinks, also at a nice place, so we can talk more loosely (a slight buzz usually helps everyone to not be so tense). If that works well then I'm willing to invite someon…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 02:39 PM
5

You know it's legit because it's called 'True Rate Me' ™.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 12:13 PM
2

You're inevitably going to lead with your looks/money/status once you achieve your goals. Improving your looks via gym also instills discipline and healthy habits, and raises your energy levels and well being. Status gives you more self-confidence in your abilities. Money reduces stress and gives you more options/freedoms in a capitalistic society. The list goes on. The point is, focusing on these things will yield strong gains in all aspects of your life and trigger a snowball effect. Therefore…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 12:08 PM
8

I guess not in OP's clown vision of reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 11:56 AM
1

I would recommend you using the quote feature, it's much better than using Italic. No problem. Drugs don't hurt anyone else either. What really annoys me about your position is your loose, mainstream use of 'drugs' without discerning any groups of substances. Now that's out of the way, yes, some drugs may in fact hurt other people by proxy of their user, others will not. Sure, let's get into some conspiracy theories now, great stuff Let's go into... what? What are you talking about? It's not a c…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 11:04 AM
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That's a different topic, I just used it as an example. What's a different topic? Poly doesn't hurt anyone apart from potentially the people involved in it, which is their business. Humanity has concluded long time ago though that in many aspects that's just beneficial for the people. What? Laws? Yeah, but not for the reasons you think. As I said, it doesn't matter that they are adults, a great part of them are super dumb or/and lack strong character characteristics / decision making to take goo…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 10:21 AM
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I don't really care about your misguided beliefs of treating adult people as children and telling them what they can or cannot do in scenarios that don't involve hurting bystanders. It's simply not your fucking business whether someone's relationship goes downhill or not and for what reason. They can decide and try to make it work themselves. There's also plenty of reasons why a 'vanilla' relationship can go downhill pretty badly, I see it every day, maybe we should ban relationships altogether?…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 09:34 AM
9

At the time the cat calling happens men also stop to clap and cheer. True story.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 09:44 PM
3

Excuse me? I'm an anti-natalist and will not have children by choice. Also, I'm a digital nomad and live in whatever country I feel like at the moment due to 100% remote work since a few years. So no idea what you're babbling about.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 12:13 AM
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I think whatever two or more adults agree on is fine and the 'effect on society' shouldn't be their concern if that's what they want to do. Operating on this belief, I have no issue with it, and IDGAF about it's effect on society.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 11:46 PM
0

Take some shrooms and chill out with the fear of death my dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 10:56 PM
1

Personally I do really like these women - it's sexy and admirable that they have their own thing their are pursuing, and not being in each other's hair all the time is IME only healthy. Of course, in the context of an LTR, there's always the question of whether our mutual pursuits are compatible enough to even make maintaining a relationship possible. Sometimes the answer is yes, sometimes it's no.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 10:48 PM
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Bro most women hanging around here are fat and lazy, and wouldn't lift a weight if their livelihood depended on it. At most they'll lift a Cheeto to their mouths. What else do you expect them to say?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 10:37 PM
5

Let them eat cake.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 12:05 PM
6

Not really, you're just projecting your own situations onto others.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 10:26 AM
10

'Just be charismatic bro'.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 10:10 AM
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Yeah, your 'great personality' reality shines through here, ngl. I mean, it's like great personality 101 to sum up entire groups of people as 'low life scum' because they don't fit your ideas of how one should live and/or behave. Jesus Christ...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 02:55 AM
2

You're totally right, but then again, why are you posting here then?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 06:05 PM
12

I like how it's either being an emotionally stoic rock or the saddest of sad depressed fucks who's life is over when his favorite sports team doesn't win a game. We truly live in a society.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 05:42 PM
6

I know right? I feel almost guilty after a good ol' child rape Friday evening with the boys. Most guys are perfectly okay with it though and even do child rape Thursday. Seriously, what is this world coming to? /s
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 02:42 PM
5

Lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 11:55 AM
1

If 10 is living my dream life, then I'm around a 6 right now. I'm good with money and have a lot of freedom which I use to travel and do stuff, so that's cool. The negatives are that I lack a sense of purpose and I'm just doing my job for money, I don't enjoy it and am actually really burnt out. Dating is a fucking nightmare and meeting compatible people to spend quality time together is hard in general. Sometimes I'm lucky, i.e. via travel groups, but more often than not it's a shit show.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 05:25 PM
3

That women have more empathy. Went out the window real fast.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 04:23 PM
0

Not at all, you do you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 07:43 PM
1

Well I'm sure you can get one to fuck you quite easily, the real question is whether any of these guys would be willing to commit to an actual LTR. If you think you can pull it off, more power to you!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 07:33 PM
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I'm suffering from chronic depression since I was 12yo (currently 32) due abusive childhood among poverty and severe bullying. Despite this, I've taken a lot of effort to address it, and I'm what you call high functioning. I was able to educate myself, achieve a great career, travel the world, achieve a great physique etc. BUT, there are times when I feel terrible and drained for no external reason at all, even when everything is great. At that time, I need some space and emotional support. Turn…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 07:31 PM
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How are women holding up then?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 07:10 PM
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What if I was dumped? LOL.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 06:49 PM
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Ah yes, a casual Chad was dropped, tells me everything I need to know. Well, it was obvious enough from the original post.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 01:49 PM
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My standards are for her to be smart, driven, easygoing, open-minded and wanting to experience many things in life - i.e. travel, different activities/hobbies, enjoying nature etc. Financially independent. Sexually liberated. Someone I admire and who makes me want to be even better and put in more work. Actually, as I'm a digital nomad, I would ideally like a partner like that as well. My ex was in tech like myself and also a digital nomad, and we traveled extensively all the time while working …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 11:32 PM
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What I think about myself is subjective and doesn't matter if it can't compete in the dating market.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 10:17 PM
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'My favorite girl on rotation' lel.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 01:58 PM
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I was chubby up until 16-17, and stopped looking like a piece of shit around that time, so definitely a late bloomer. That's not what I'm talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 12:36 PM
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Cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 09:47 AM
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I don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 08:40 AM
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It sounds like a foreign concept, I always treated my SOs like best friends and family.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 04:12 AM
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Yeah, it's a shitty world that will only get shittier, and most people don't give AF beyond being consumers. It's basically a downward spiral of consuming, getting fucked out of opportunities via the diminishing of the middle class, and engaging in toxic and skewed social media that warps reality and expectations. Sprinkle that with a hefty portion of anxiety et voila! Women are also increasingly more terrible, uninteresting and shallow, which is evident to everyone with OLD and an Instagram.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 04:09 AM
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How else can he get them? They are expensive!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 04:00 AM
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When I was 20 it was hard to date girls my age and impossible for 30+. Now I'm 32 and both seem impossible, except for really desperate chicks/single mothers my age who don't really bring much to the table and are looking for a provider. The meme about older guys suddenly becoming attractive to young women is a meme: the ones that do are the same men that were also found attractive at a younger age.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 03:56 AM
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I've never met a woman who would tick all these boxes, lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 03:50 AM
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I'm 32 and not looking to date high school kids, so it is of zero importance. If anything, it would be weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 08:32 PM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 10:57 AM
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this
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 05:02 AM
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That's a lot of 'ifs'.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 04:59 AM
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Hm, not sure to be honest, maybe it added somewhat to my overall misanthropy, lol. It didn't change my love life in any way. The conclusion that I came to from IRL is that the most successful men are almost always the most extraverted/natural charmers type who can talk out their ass with everyone on cue and have unshakable egos. I've seen em attractive, average and ugly, and they were all doing good with a smug aura of self- satisfaction. Regardless of any pill philosophy I'll just never going t…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 04:28 AM
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Yes, a few times, it was amazing. I've came across this sub as part of the incel/RP rabbit hole, which in turn I stumbled upon in my introspective process of trying to figure out what's wrong with me (very little interest from women across my life despite being above average attractiveness and not a basement dweller). I stayed to see what different people from other places in the world have to say about things. I also don't subscribe to any pill and this is supposed to be a neutral sub to discus…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/21 11:46 PM
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Oh yeah, sex is definitely not the solution for THAT, especially if it turns out to be cringy casual sex with a random.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/21 10:07 PM
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That still doesn't really change me not wanting to be with a man like that. These are most men who don't have some kind of issues blunting their sex drive. I would argue feeling this is not a problem, a problem is what you do with it. And yeah, you can be with whatever men you want, or also with no men, that's fine. You can have companionship without sex. I've had tons of guy friends over my lifetime. No sex Romantic companionship is not the same as having friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/21 09:32 PM
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I never equated that nor do I think that way, although I would say I'm an outlier (and you seem to be one as well). Most people, especially women, associate sex with an emotional connection and would probably call us sociopaths or whatever else (I've been demeaned by women on OLD for this before, for not being 'normal'). What I'm saying is that: 1) Thinking about and craving sex and being frustrated about the lack of it is natural and not something you can 'decide' not to have, and jacking off w…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/21 09:20 PM
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Yeah I usually use alpha sarcastically as well, it has too many social darwinism connotations for me. Chad, on the other hand, brings to mind a 90s American teen movie quarterback jock, who's a stupid asshole but will still steal the nerd's girlfriend. Dunno, it's just a funny stereotype.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/21 09:06 PM
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Low-libido men are outliers. Also, it's not the same thing when in a LTR. Then your companionship needs are satisfied and sex is also available, so I don't think anyone is thinking about it as much as when festering in isolation for years on end. I don't know about you, but IME a good relationship with a person feels amazing and can be a much richer experience then being single, sex not withstanding. A lot of RP men are also young, and age is a factor in male libido. When I was high school/colla…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/21 09:02 PM
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No, a pyramid of needs exist. His point was that once ur not starving or freezing, you will then try to satiate needs for sex and companionship, which come from the desire to procreate and from being conditioned by nature as a herd/social animal. These are not luxuries, these are still basic human needs as every psychologist will tell you, so as per your advice they can't just 'not care' about them (or whatever was said, sorry if it's not a precise quote). What I would agree with though is that …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/21 08:45 PM
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To be fair, the 'Chad' thing is hilarious as a meme, and seemed to spread quite wide outside RP circles. I enjoying calling my male friends Chads in jest, it's a great caricature.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/21 08:39 PM
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Food and housing are luxuries now lol Nowhere was this implied.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/21 08:33 PM
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In theory, yes, it should be normal. In practice, no. IME, also a hard no. It probably heavily depends on the person and how they themselves deal with emotions, what kind of issues or lack thereof they are having.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/21 11:06 AM
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Nah man u just alpha AF.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/21 11:03 AM
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You can still have the same mindset while not posting everyday about woe is me because of hypergamy I've no stake in this discussion, but maybe these are due to incel subs being banned? You see quite a lot of that shit here as well, I imagine they started flooding other subs, TRP included. I always thought TRP was more about 'here's the reality about women, how they work and how to fuck them, btw self-improve' and not so much 'boo hoo woe is me'.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/21 10:46 AM
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It's because they are spoilt for choice via OLD where enough guys above their own SMV are totally willing to jump their bones. This, plus an unhealthy interpretation of XYZ-positivity movements. So basically - why care when I can still get a better man, even if it takes a while, he'll come around. And also - why do anything when I'm great just as I am and need to celebrate that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 02:16 PM
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Well there's a fuckton of 'coaches' whose only real qualification is 'bruh I got sum pussy and I REALLY believe what I'm saying'. Maybe it's not the product we need, but apparently one we deserve. All hail Economos!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 02:06 PM
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The social introvert part is enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 01:58 PM
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Plot twist: people change with time and due to life, and most people grow apart after enough time passes, even if initially 'compatible on every level' (how common is that?). Most marriages end with an ugly divorce. Love fades away, chemistry is replaced with familiarity and routine
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 05:27 AM
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I mean... you do realize who you're arguing with, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 05:20 AM
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Why would anyone lie about their height when it's going to be clear how tall they are upon meeting?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 05:09 AM
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It has this idea because the large amount of users have some kind of deficiency that makes them angry and it's nice to shift the blame online from the comfort of your own home and anonymity. Yes, this includes myself, but I'm trying to limit the sour grapes, and have enough self-awareness to realize that it's more likely some problem with myself (which doesnt define my worth as a person) and not the entire rest of the world around me. Though, to be fair, there is definitely a cultural shift caus…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 04:39 AM
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I realize, but the fact there is a clear double standard is exactly the problem and part of the reason many people are so miserable. Whether it's biology or culture can be discussed without end, but in the end it is what it is and it sucks. The muscle weight is a good point, it's usually because BMI is used to measure this and not bf%. I've got a friend that's overweight according to BMI but he has abs, he's just built like a tank, lol. He deadlifts 450 pounds for 5 rep sets with clean AF techni…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 04:21 AM
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If they are fit themselves then that's not hypocritical at all, they just expect the same thing they are also bringing to the table - seeing that fatness can be fixed via effort and discipline, that doesn't seem unreasonable at all. If they are fat themselves then I agree it's hypocritical.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 04:12 AM
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I'm that + average photofeeler score of ~7.5 when posting smiling pics in the 'dating' category that reveal nothing conclusive about my physique (which btw fluctuates between athletic and ripped). To answer the question: Working remotely since years + being introverted, so basically small 'natural' social circles, which just shrank further as people went on with marriages, relocating to other countries etc (I'm quite mobile myself). I'm not comfortable with cold approaches during daily life, as …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 04:04 AM
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Why would someone fit, so able to summon discipline and effort to take care of their body, date someone who does not? Aesthetics aside, being lazy is just not an attractive trait. Even if you say a person can be not lazy but just uninterested in that aspect of life (taking care of her body) then that's still a clash of values - obviously for someone who does, that is important.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 03:23 AM
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So feminism pushes for FFM now? Where do I sign up?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/21 05:17 PM
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I finished university 8 years ago and have been working fully remotely since 6 years. I guess it's game over. And yes, dating apps suck for everyone, but for different reasons. Women complain about men on these apps but project their 'asshole' image/experience on everyone at some point, thus sabotaging themselves and removing any chance from the more adjusted men to connect with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/21 05:08 PM
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I've no desire to penetrate anally again, never saw the appeal. If a girl asks I'll do it but really cba, and I know a lot of guys are into anal a lot. Anything scat related or pain focused is off the table. Most BDSM is just cringy, especially when taken too seriously and controlling everything to the gnat's ass (how fun! /s).
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/21 12:06 PM
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Well, it's good at least someone had any interest in this conversation to begin with. Notice how my initial reply had nothing to do with 'wanting to be around people doing XYZ'. I'm sorry about your metaphorical boner.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/21 03:14 PM
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Okay, whatever that means.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/21 03:09 PM
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Everything in life is temporary and fleeting. They can ride it out for several years and reap the benefits, and depending on the traction they get these can be substantial. I don't establish who I want to be around based on their social media usage, unless it's obviously unhealthy and a result of deeper issues (insecurity and toxic need of validation).
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/21 03:08 PM
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IDK about that, but I can see how it can go to one's head. Validation and attention is addictive.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/21 02:59 PM
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I love people here being like 'uh oh Instagram is for high schoolers bruh', lmao. It must be the hashtags that I'm following (travel, tech) but there are tons of influencers aged 20-40. I also know a lot of basic bitches aged 20-30 with massive followings because they enjoy the validation and, if big enough, the occasional paid partnership. There's also tons of women on Tinder etc who are basically baiting for followers and they are not high schoolers.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/21 02:23 PM
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Most of the daily 'small stuff' has nothing to do with long term success in a given area. There are people out there literally pissed/annoyed that i.e. you're not doing house chores their preferred way, or they get worked up about whatever bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/21 12:53 PM
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Thanks for the random blackpill quip.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/21 12:47 PM
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No, it's not.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/21 12:45 PM
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I like all kinds of girls, but definitely have a preference for a few things - petit, gingers, short hair, alternative style. Working out is always a major plus. Non-physical traits (crucial for LTR) would include being smart, open minded, non-religious, laid back (as in, don't stress about minor shit that doesn't matter), ambitious and up to travel/doing things/experiencing life (couch dwellers are a no).
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/21 04:43 AM
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So you're saying the entire male population hardwired to the core of their being by biology to attract/compete for mates, to just stop. I'm sorry to say this isn't happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 08:51 PM
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What is your definition of 'average' and 'high value'? I'm 32, 6ft, athletic (working out since 16yo), make the equivalent of the minimum wage of my country in 10h, work remotely since 6 years as an IT Expert and have been a digital nomad for 3 years traveling/living in 30 countries across 3 continents. I have my own 1432sq ft apartment a few mins walk from the city center of a big city (rented out as office when I'm away traveling). I also have good teeth, no balding, and have a somewhat above …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 07:42 PM
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No, that's just a misanthropic cope they feed themselves to not interact with people, because they suck at it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 02:43 PM
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B-b-b-ut I can hump that pillow with real confidence and know all the little secret loot boxes in Genshin! Gee shucks...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 02:37 PM
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And the confidence is often dependent on looks. You don't see many good looking guys who lack confidence do you? Hello!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 02:34 PM
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Neckbeards are beating their meet to hentai and complaining on reddit about not getting attention from women, so no.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 02:27 PM
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TIL late = bad boy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 02:25 PM
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Gotta laugh every time someone mentions nofap and enlightenment in one sentence. Buddha would be proud fo sho.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 11:45 PM
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Oh okay, so it's just the poors in traditionally poor areas being poor cuz they can't 'manage' themselves. Most Americans have less than 5k USD in savings and would get totally fucked if faced with a medical emergency or even college. They work their assess off basically to get by, with the only perspective of a future based on debt (lifelong mortgage, credit cards, student loans etc). But yeah, whatever you have to tell yourself to excuse the system. Hope you have a lot of stamina to pull them …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 01:20 PM
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Cool story bro. Keep on praising at the altar of Economos and pretending there's nothing to see here. I guess the almost 40 million living in poverty in the US are just lazy fucks that play games all day and need to clean their rooms.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 09:47 AM
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If your love is possessive and you conceptualise her as a complete entity starting from birth to now. Then her past relationships matter to you, because “she” was intimate with someone else. This is insane.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 03:22 AM
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I'll never understand the 'no past relationships' obsession of some men. The way I see it, it's human nature that 'grass is always greener on the other side of the fence', after a while. Wouldn't such a girl then be more, not less, likely to cheat/leave simply out of curiosity and not having any barometer as to how relationships look like?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 01:25 AM
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trust reliability loyalty kindness love etc. Cute, but nobody gives a flying fuck about these things at first glance, which is why such qualities mean nothing during 'modern' initial attraction, and especially in popular 'dating' environments i.e. OLD, clubs, bars etc. The only thing that matters in those is physicality and game, impressing and building chemistry - and none of these require any values or principles. Isn't that exactly what most of them are whining about? They are DTF and want to…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 01:07 AM
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Enjoying someone's company enough to hang around and fuck him for over a decade without developing any deeper feelings whatsoever (from any of the involved sides). Most people would probably argue it's kinda sociopathic. I'm considering it more of an interesting thought experiment, trying to figure out how that plays out on a mental and emotional level.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 11:44 PM
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That is... odd. Well, I'm glad it's working out for you nonetheless.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 11:17 PM
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So how does a 12 year old FWB work exactly? You live separately, have individual plans for your life, and just hang out as friends + sex without further expectiations? And there are no romantic feelings?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 11:02 PM
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Hell one of the top 1% of only fans creators is a 69 year old women who’s overweight! https://youtu.be/2jixgtCV1Jk. Even the lowest I tell you Bring on the nukes.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 10:59 PM
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I honestly don't see any difference in the things you mentioned that would be a radical change brought about by women. Then again, I don't give a fuck what a woman buys beyond providing feedback if asked for an opinion. They are free to enjoy whatever clothes/makeup/sex toys/whatever they feel best suits them. If your claim is that you see a difference in sexual expression of women brought about by other women 'in power' via popular media/products, then fine I guess? Rock on, you do you. Why wou…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 10:55 PM
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Aight bro brb gonna lift and shower.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 10:40 PM
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The manly senator seems to have forgotten that his country is in shambles and porn/Call of Duty are hardly to blame - they are symptoms of the issue, not the cause. Oh, no, he didn't. He's a politician. He doesn't give a fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 10:27 PM
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Indeed, sad sacks of shit - who would rather play games than work minimum wage slave labor without any benefits in a world going to shit? They should just pull themselves up by the bootstraps and be obedient dron-... I mean manly men!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 10:24 PM
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No. If I find a girl attractive then I find her attractive and have no issue with arousal.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 11:34 AM
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They get the privilege of m'lady's company, of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 04:22 PM
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You do realize subs like these tend to attract a certain kind of people, right? As to the original question, it depends on how well we clicked and the amount of mutual tension.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 03:24 PM
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Nowadays everyone and their moms have tattoos. It's no big deal. Most are also bad, I definitely see a rise in meme tattoos where having purposefully bad/ugly ones is 'edgy'.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 11:43 PM
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I didn't go to these places yet. My anecdotal evidence comes from being a digital nomad and traveling to/living in 30 countries on 3 continents. The weight of people in average fluctuated depending on the place. Even if people are fatter on average, you still have to take into account whether standards changed to compensate for that. I mean US is the primary source of the 'thicc' culture, glorifying big ol' titties and phat clapping booties. There are also other factors which account for attract…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 06:14 PM
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I was talking about effort put into appearances and consciousness about trying to look good. This may or may not involve being fit. 30 years ago going to a gym was not considered normal and associated mainly with big burly men you wouldn't want to meet in a dark alley. Now it's a perfectly normal 'self care routine'. I don't know where the 20-30 pound statistics applies to, but most people where I'm at look a normal weight. Also, appearances don't have to be true. A lot of Instagram is clever an…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 05:51 PM
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Tbh men also look better on average than in the past, because society puts increasing pressure on appearance. Social media, including dating apps, have ruined the perception of many people basically. People go out of their way to show off how 'perfect' their life is on Instagram to get validation, and everyone else following who also wants this validation is trying to replicate that and 'get there'. Tinder is basically the Instagram of dating. It's pretty much a rat race of mostly broken human b…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 04:39 PM
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Watch out, there's a dude on the loose in this sub that will absolute lose his shit over pointing out any perceived unfairness.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/21 03:28 PM
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The ideal dating world would be one where people don't date others for the sake of external validation or escapism from their unresolved personal issues. Also, more empathy/respect/selflessness would be great.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 08:01 PM
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Breaking news: human beings enjoy attention and will take advantage of being able to easily obtain it (and possibly other perks from an endless supply of simps). In other news: Earth orbits Sun.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 07:43 PM
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And there is still a difference, unlike guys who can still be attracted to a girl even after "discovering" she's a so called "butterface" , a woman's attraction is more often killed immediately upon finding out that the guys lower face isn't really up with the heavily idealized projection. Ah yes, the chivalrous refined gentlemen who pay no heed to lowly superficial attributes such as a maiden's facial features. Unlike these vapid, shallow harpies and their delusions! /s
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 06:38 PM
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I think men should try to appeal to whatever women they would be comfortable attracting without feeling they are forcing themselves to be something they aren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 06:26 PM
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I prefer extroverted female partners, being more introverted myself. It usually works well - she's a chaotic force while I'm a calming influence. I'm okay with and decent at socializing though, it's just not something I need often and go out of my way to pursue. My social battery can drain pretty quick, although with the right people I can also thrive. I was in a LTR with an introverted girl once and it wasn't a good time - we basically spiralled down into a mundane abyss. Ugh. I guess I have an…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 06:23 PM
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Sigh. Or they say 'source' to shut down the conversation. 'Ugly people will struggle with dating' '- bruh source????' It's cute how you assume the best of people in internet conversations, I don't. In this particular situation, I found a few sources within a minute of googling. If she wanted a source it was that easy, but she didn't, which just led me to believe she's not actually interested. I have no stake in convincing anyone of anything. My only mistake was wasting time in responding at all …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 05:30 PM
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I would feel worried/pained by the fact she's hurting and would provide comfort/support ASAP by just lending a shoulder/hug and being there. Once calmed down I would tactfully investigate. So basic human behavior/empathy I guess - nobody wants to see a loved one in tears (unless they are tears of joy/being moved). Bonus question: I never cried in front of any of my girlfriends. I'm not a huge crier in general unless the mental pain reaches heights that makes we want to jump out of a window, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 04:45 PM
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How are you going to make it 'fairer' by calling it out? Sometimes called out people ponder whether the calling out was valid and may or may not change their views. You know what won't make it fairer? Not saying anything. Oh, women are just going to start suddenly changing their standards because some rando on reddit said something? Maybe a woman will, probably not women. The thing is, I never said anything to any woman about changing their standard, nor was it my intention. Everyone is free to …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 04:27 PM
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My point is that your comment will never change anything Correct, meanwhile you're saving the world with your rambling which is even more unnecessary. and it has never been fair No, but we can try to make it fairer by calling it out. so you didnt' even need to make the comment. Hi kettle, meet pot. You said it's not a "fair expectation" It's not. as if you expect fairness in relationships I do, otherwise I leave. or think it can be fair one day. That depends entirely on the amount or shit you're…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 03:56 PM
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You don't know anything about his current standard though.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 03:50 PM
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Yeah, you're right, you're not the right person, had to edit. Sorry, your 'point' eludes me. I guess it's that guys should date lazy fat chicks or stfu because 'nothing is fair'. Sure, they can, if they want to. Where do we go from there?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 03:47 PM
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I'm not kicking and screaming about anything - I'm 6ft / 172 lbs and 13% bodyfat, and have a firm 'no settling' policy because I enjoy my life and only embrace women who further enhance it. For the record: I was pure fat up until the age of 17 and have a shit metabolism, which makes me fat real quick. The difference is I made lasting lifestyle choices made around certain sacrifices (nutrition) and effort (working out). Turns out it's possible, even if most people need less effort for the same re…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 03:38 PM
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How old are you and what is your lifestyle that you don't see this at all? I'm just curious. If you're younger and/or in school/college that might explain it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 01:51 PM
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That's not a fair expectation/equivalency. You can fix fat. You can't fix height.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 01:43 PM
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Thanks for explaining obvious things. No, a lot of time people don't look, because they aren't actually interested in their belief being challenged. Assuming everyone is reasonable and comes into discussions in good faith after searching and analyzing sources is utterly delusional. The majority of people don't do that. 'Penis size affects self-esteem and thus sexual/dating success' - this is hardly a controversial claim. Physical insecurities are probably the most common type of insecurity in th…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 12:39 PM
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Jack is great, and also does not need a microphone.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 07:03 PM
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I just find people who need 'sources' but are too intellectually lazy or dishonest to search for one, when it takes literally a minute of Google, as extremely obnoxious and not approaching a discussion in good faith. It's your choice to remain ignorant if you wish, just don't act that's not what it is. So yeah, following your logic, I guess I don't have a source. You got me! Don't forget to downvote.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 06:16 PM
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Like are you spergs pulling out rulers with your dates or something? Of course not, that would be ridiculous. Tape measure only.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 06:13 PM
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Source? I was curious about this and using Google for literally a minute resulted in some sources from medical journals, pubmed etc. This is hardly surprising, big dick energy is a well known phenomenon. I've known guys who would literally fall back on 'well at least I'm hung' when getting shit for something else. It can be the same source of security or insecurity that women often display with boobs. Some of my female friends also admitted to fucking a guy solely because he leaked information a…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 06:10 PM
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I've tried to make it more clear via an edit.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 01:32 PM
1

There is no clear and concise view that OP presented and asked to CMV. It's basically rambling about how a bunch of people with psychological issues should 'just do it'. I have challenged this as best as possible considering the circumstances. Maybe this is mislabeled as CMV? OP even refered to it themselves as 'roasting'.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 01:07 PM
4

But the real question is, have you heard about showering?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 12:59 PM
1

Civilization may cease to exist as we know it because who will be left working and consuming when most men will be satisfied with having a roof over their head, a full belly and a warm wet hole to stick their dick in. This is literally most men right now. What makes you think society, and by extension men, have in general ambitions for anything else? The norm of what a 'good' life is comprises of a 9-5, a mortgage, a car, a partner and Netflix.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 11:31 AM
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All of my LTRs (4, 2 of which started as FBW) 'fell into my lap' in the sense that I've met these people outside of any pursuing/romantic context and stuff just happened naturally. Most of the little casual I had was along these lines, it just happened, I wasn't out chasing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 12:28 AM
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I'm European but spent around 1 year in the US across a few different trips. You guys have some pretty good and available comfort/soul food. Dem ribbz... dem wingz... dem philly sandwiches and tators... oh lordly lord. 3000 kcals in one sitting like it's nobody's business. If I haven't limited myself to 2 meals a day without any snacking and didn't put in steps, I'd probably have to be hauled back via cargo plane, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 12:21 AM
1

American pop-culture (especially music, movies) is easily accessible all around the world, and predominant in most of it. I don't see what's difficult to grasp. Being American has nothing to do with anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 08:45 PM
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Ah, the UK. That partially explains it. No offense, lol. Glad you're uplifting the standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 07:42 PM
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You can be perceived as more attractive than back home due to ethnic or cultural factors - i.e. a black guy coming to a country that doesn't have many black people, or a white guy going to an Asian country, or any other gender/ethnic combination relocating somewhere where that particular combination isn't common. It makes you feel 'exotic' in terms of attractiveness and interesting because you have a different lived experience growing up under different cultural conditions. Money will play a fac…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 07:39 PM
1

I never implied anything regarding you being one, so no idea why you felt the need to emphasize that. OK I guess, thanks for letting me know?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 07:30 PM
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My "cold approaches" back when I was single worked but as well being in shape, I dressed well, regularly shaved, always showered before leaving the house and invested in decent cologne. This is most young/young-ish men in Europe. Like, it's the basics, the 101, the obvious shit. Appearance is being taken care of, non barring differences in style, men care. So many men these days just leave the house a shambles and then sit there asking why women are batting down doors to have sex with them. Wher…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 07:27 PM
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I mean it's all about cherry-picking fringe behavior and reframing it to be the widely accepted norm. Get with the program!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 07:12 PM
1

I've never heard that apart from the internet and American pop-culture, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 06:31 PM
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They haven't done anything against the rules per se, I just find then obnoxious/toxic/passive aggressive and thus stay away for my own good.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 04:34 PM
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Yeah, it's okay, but there are definitely certain people that I have learned to avoid engaging via observation (I've been lurking long before actually joining).
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 04:29 PM
2

I don't assume anyone wants anything sexual/romantic from me unless there's tangible tension/attraction and something more than 'hints'. Most 'hints' that a lot of women send men's way are obvious only for them and guys with overinflated egos, who interpret every side glance/smile as 'oh yeah she totally wants to fuck me, I mean, I'd fuck me!', lol. I glance at people, make eye contact, smile etc. without expectations of being approached for this, as I consider it being human/social. Since we're…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 04:26 PM
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This is the only relationship sub I'm in, and it can already get pretty stupid at times, lol. I've had a look at a few others and I just couldn't handle the levels of delusion, hurt, entitlement and virtue signalling.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 04:19 PM
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I mean, a lot of men do date down as per your definition of it, it really depends on the standards of the particular man. I have a clear idea of how I want to live my life, so dating down would mean getting in a relationship that does not allow me to live that way and is a net negative. This is not worth it to me so I don't do that. For example, I work remotely and get paid well, and travel extensively around the world (digital nomad lifestyle). I don't want to give this up as it's a life that s…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 04:16 PM
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Captain Obvious to the rescue I guess. Those that complain the most and/or incels won't resonate with your 'roasting' at all. They are mentally unhinged in some way and proficient in shifting the blame while sabotaging themselves consciously or unconsciously. So no, it's not about 'leaving your room', it's about addressing one's mental problems in a world where most people have them, cuz society sucks. I'm getting vibes of 'hey, you! depressed anxious sack of shit! how about stop being that huh!…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 04:02 PM
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Yes, but you made it sound like it's a primary reason/motivation to engage in one, and was shocked women stay single and complain when so many sexless men would gladly accept a sexual relationship. Yes, most men gladly accept to get laid and some do, when and if said single women pursue that kind of thing to release sexual tension. That doesn't change their status of being single and complaining - as they are complaining about the lack of quality LTR partners, not a shortage of dudes wiling to g…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 10:44 AM
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Sexlessness has risen sharply for young men and there is no reason why any normal man would turn down the opportunity for sexual relationships with women (that would completely go against their natural biology). A sexual relationship is not tantamount with a romantic one, you can maintain it/them while being single.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 10:30 AM
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The reason why I came off as needy to her is that, I still am in a relatively dark place myself where I feel I've lost faith in humanity and friendships, but meeting her somehow awaken feelings that, I don't want my life to be marked by my failures and self hate in regards to how I've failed myself and am not the sort of person I can be proud to be. I am genuinely sorry that you are not in a good place mentally, and was able to gauge as much from your original post. In my capacity of living with…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 12:19 AM
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I then laid my cards on the table and argued while I am not looking for a serious relationship or love, I feel like she could become someone I could fall in love with and asked, when she gets better, is she would consider giving us a go. This is an extremely weird and needy thing to say to a person you've never actually met, especially as a grown ass man to someone barely out of high school, and was likely interpreted as a red flag. From what you said, if true, she had a traumatic experience, an…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 11:59 PM
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I like the message of self-improvement and 'manning up' that floats around the manosphere. By 'manning up' I understand pushing your bounderies, taking responsibility for your life, developing your personal potential, tapping into the energy and toughness of being a man on a primal level (if you ever had an amazing workout, i.e. running extensively through rain and just feeling indestructible and able to take on any obstacle, that's the kind of energy I'm referring to) etc. In general it's nice …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 11:14 PM
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The sad thing is these guys need actual rl support structures in their life to help them address their problems and improve mentally , but if they did they probably wouldn't have ended up like that in the first place. (source: personal experience) Took an actual epiphany for me to start picking myself up, and the odds of that happening for any individual person in that situation is low at best. I know man, that's why I have some sympathy for them despite their often fucked up behavior. As a pers…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 10:37 PM
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Humans are the cancer of the world, so no, it shouldn't be a concern, it's great. The only reason it's a concern are selfish reasons of humanity itself, i.e. governments needing more working bees to prop up their obsolete socioeconomic systems, people being scared of loneliness or a lack of purpose in life, religions needing more drones to control for their own advantage etc. Now, don't get me wrong - it's no one's individual fault for already being here, and I believe everyone should be treated…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 08:46 PM
1

*These posts are so dumb. obviously a combo of the two is the most ideal and its not that uncommon.* Sure, but it's PPD - ridiculous 'thought experiments' fueled by stereotypes are always in demand.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 08:37 PM
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Nagging is when you believe you can change someone’s behavior by using your words and demeanor to make them uncomfortable enough to do what you want. THIS. It's basically lack of mature communication skills on the part of the nagger to signal their wants/issues clearly and work through them like an adult. Instead, they try to enforce something by being passive aggressive. Alternatively, this can be a problem with the communication skills of the partner - the nagger approached them in good faith …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 08:24 PM
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Most noticeable on OLD, but women with descriptions 'please, only intelligent people and amazing conversations' who turn out to be as interesting and mentally developed as a door knob. It's probably the thing for men also though. Hypocrisy and dunning kruger are gender independent flaws.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 08:13 PM
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How many men actually do that - complain but themselves engage in toxic behavior? It's ridiculous. I fully acknowledge there's a plethora of fuckups out there who can't take a 'no' and will borderline harass women - I've seen it happen before and sometimes had to intervene. I've never personally witnessed outright assault, but I heard about it and totally believe it. Hell, just have a look online at some of the pickup artists or wannabe pickup artists, usually they just won't fuck off and litera…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 07:50 PM
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AFAIK there are reasonably established theories that, in fact, tribes raised children together and 'whose' these children were was not that important. Pretty sure the so called alpha male(s) had most of the children and were doing their thing, while others did their part, but the weak were always left behind as liabilities. So I always have to chuckle when incels mention biology, because biologically speaking they should just stfu and help raise Chad's children to restore the 'natural balance'. …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 01:31 PM
1

Vasectomy is not 'permanent' in the sense that it can indeed be reversed. The invasiveness is an issue though. I don't want kids but I'm not crazy about the idea of someone cutting up my sack (proverbially speaking, I know it's not technically that). A solution not requiring surgery would be welcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 12:07 PM
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Fine. Your mind is pretty much made up so anything I say won't matter. I don't understand how you can bemoan harshness towards incels with one corner of your mouth, while out the other you put all or most emphasis on looks and say everything is lost without them except for rare outliers. You can't change your face, you can either work with what you're given and make the most of it, making up in other areas, or give up. Everyone is free to make their own choice. What is your idea of an attractive…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 12:53 AM
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The studies that focused on time were talking about PIV measured on a stopwatch. I'm sure that had no impact on the results at all... 'Okay honey, ready, set, pump! You're doing great!'
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 12:35 AM
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Why would anyone have unaroused sex? We are talking about fully consentual here of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 12:11 AM
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It sucks for millenials in every country it sounds like. Yep, that one thing seems universal.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 10:59 PM
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I mean, sure, maybe, anecdotal evidence always suffers from an information bubble to some degree. I.e. if I actively try not to be an asshole in life and relationships I won't befriend people who are. I know it's a bit of a stereotype that men only care about themselves during sex, but maybe this is because women who encounter these men complain loudly, while women with good partners don't say much. It's kind of like how most people won't leave a good review at a restaurant if it was okay/good, …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 10:58 PM
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I mean, I'm very open about sex, so I would not dismiss non-PIV action. If both partners are on the same page and enjoy sex that doesn't involve PIV that still counts as good time in my book. This would also include persons that do not wield a penis, i.e. lesbian sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 10:53 PM
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IDK, as a man I'm usually mostly concerned about my partner and don't consider sex good if she doesn't get off in some way, shape or form. This is because I know it's relatively easy for me to get off, and satisfying a girl turns me on. If I wanted to just cum I'd fap, lol. It's also possible for a guy to cum without orgasming. I've had it two or three times, usually when I was tired and in a bad place mentally. That didn't necessarily mean bad sex if I got her off and it was a good time, but ye…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 10:46 PM
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That's a very insightful response, thanks. I don't think there's anything wrong with this approach. The kind of sex you describe should definitely be one of the options in a LTR, as that should create the emotional climate for it to work.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 10:37 PM
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I always thought Canada was a more progressive/chilled/safer/saner/secular America, and without the redneck issue, lol. Haven't been yet though (I've been to the US several times). As for your question, I've answered in a PM.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 10:34 PM
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Alright dude, whatever floats your boat.
/r/ExRedPill25/10/21 10:02 PM
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I don't consider sex where my partner (a woman) was unsatisfied/had a bad time as 'good'. That the MO of a selfish asshole.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 10:01 PM
1

If they think you're hot regardless they are likely to not give af.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 09:38 PM
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As a physically attractive man (face above average, 6", working out half my life and 8pack abs during good months) that is hindered by other issues (mental), I disagree. There are tons of men less attractive than myself with more success with women, because they don't have any mental issues and can socialize easily. Some of the most successful men I saw IRL, literally fucking around left and right, were not conventionally attractive. They did have massive egos and could talk to pretty much anyon…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 09:36 PM
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You're a random person on the internet, I have nothing to gain by lying to you. It impacts your situation because it clearly proves you can get a relationship even with an ugly face (I don't know how you look and whether you're exaggerating or not, but he's ugly lol). You said nothing else matters, but that's not true. Do with that what you will, good luck.
/r/ExRedPill25/10/21 09:29 PM
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You conveniently ignored the other guy I told you about, who is ugly.
/r/ExRedPill25/10/21 09:20 PM
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Well, yes. I'm positive that the vast majority of incels have some kind of mental issue. I am fighting chronic depression disorder most of my life, and while usually I'm 'high-functioning' (i.e. can work, but I work remotely, so not exactly difficult) it greatly affects my social life. I had relationships etc that all fell apart for this reason, because they started when I was on a 'high', and then gradually declined as my condition deteriorated and I was no longer 'good enough'. Rinse and repea…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 08:52 PM
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But the guys with good faces that are short will say exactly the same thing - that they are being ignored and that height is the only thing that matters. They do it all the time on reddit. Don't you see it's the same confirmation bias? The guy I mentioned had an average face, his success lied elsewhere.
/r/ExRedPill25/10/21 08:44 PM
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I don't know man, I've seen some pretty ugly dudes strolling around with girls that I'd gladly date. All of them own it hard and have egos that would make my dick shrivel, and I'm above average look wise (nowhere near model material or anything though). I've literally known a grizzly-type kind of dude that was 5.4", friends call him "dwarf" (lol) and consistently banged high class women because he had balls the size of glacial rocks and was completely audacious. A friend of mine is really unattr…
/r/ExRedPill25/10/21 08:31 PM
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Some women like muscles, others don't, tastes will vary. Also it's difficult to be really muscular naturally for most men. I don't know why you should bother, I don't know whether you put any value in your physique. For me, I enjoy looking in the mirror and being ripped, because it's something I worked hard on with my own strength and achieved non-stondard results, it gives me a sense of satisfaction and overcoming a weakness (being lazy). But I like the idea of trying to explore as much potenti…
/r/ExRedPill25/10/21 08:19 PM
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That's a great response and a big sample, thanks. That would have been my guess - that most average sex is good/enjoyable, then there's some bad sex, and some amazing sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 08:14 PM
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I strongly believe this, but I was almost crucified for the sentiment before, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 08:12 PM
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Do you mean orgasm strictly from PIV? I'm asking because only one of my partners was able to consistently and repeatedly orgasm from PIV, up to ridiculous levels of 10 times in one session. Basically, as long as the PIV continued for long enough, she would keep on cumming until exhaustion, lol. There was no special trick to it, that's just how she is. All of my other partners required additional clitoral stimulation during PIV to climax. Sometimes it resulted in a second climax from PIV only lat…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 08:10 PM
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Yes, I heard about Elliot, it's tragic because it was 100% in his head. There was nothing wrong with his physical attractiveness levels that would cause a problem. Sadly, I think this is the case with most incels. Why? Because I know of really unattractive guys swimming in pussy. Also a lot of unattractive guys in normal relationships. They simply don't sabotage themselves like incels do.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 08:01 PM
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Well if this is your definition of good that makes sense. To me that's just regular. I mean... yeah... I'm arguing the position that most average sex is bad. I don't think sex is bad if both parties walk away satisfied, regardless of the intensity or variety of said sex, so it's highly subjective as milage and expectations will vary. I consider the instance of loosing my virginity amazing, because it was a normal intercourse in a great environment with a special person. When it comes to losing y…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 07:52 PM
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I am not sure where you are from but here the government started pushing a lot of financial incentives to 'increase' population growth - paying money for every child monthly, paying a big one-time sum for having a child, tax breaks, cofinancing things like mortgages based on the size of the family etc. I agree it's laughable, simply because it won't fix the glaring economical problem which is wealth disparity and the eradication of the middle class. It's like putting powder on a gaping wound. As…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 07:03 PM
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we both got what we wanted from the experience (maybe release, maybe care, maybe connection, maybe being openly desired, etc) I think this is huge and vastly underrated, the plethora of factors that can make sex good even if not everything went 100% perfectly for whatever reason (we're only human). There's a lot to be taken away from sex. Sadly, I'm waiting for people coming in to convince you that you must be terrible due to not having more partners, sigh.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 06:57 PM
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I mean, sure, but I've also seen slobs that don't pay much attention to dressing or grooming land in relationships with average or attractive-ish women. So while surface attraction is important, women obviously consider more things to fall within this 'surface attraction' than stylish dresscode, a trimmed beard or sculpted biceps. If they didn't, said slobs wouldn't be given the time of day, but they are, I see them in relationships all the time. A common mistake of incel folk or guys who are st…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 06:53 PM
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Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 06:42 PM
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Thank you for your input! This is why I was putting a lot of emphasis on open mindedness/communication/willingness to put in effort in my previous discussion on the topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 06:41 PM
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Bad sex is any sex that involves whining, begging, pouting or pushing through last minute resistance. Lol fair enough, I definitely agree with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 06:36 PM
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Yeah, it was my assumption that most sex is relationship sex. However, there was someone trying to tell me that most sex is actually casual sex, which made me think whether I'm just an outlier that's heavily 'missing out' or maybe it's a regional thing. I definitely agree there is a huge risk of being complacent in an LTR due to feeling overly comfortable, in terms of sex but also other areas. It's a huge challenge in LTRs to make continuos effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 06:34 PM
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What if I'm into that?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 06:29 PM
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I mean, you may be right, at least when it comes to initial surface level attraction. But... so what? I workout because I like being lean, strong and healthy. I dress reasonably well because it makes me feel good. I care about my hygiene because I feel disgusted if I don't. I'm not considering my ROI among women when doing these things, I do them for me. The reason women will be given more notice for doing that is because men are huge on visual attraction and constantly eye/appraise women for th…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 06:26 PM
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I think you're right that it's large scale especially among city dwellers. Also more educated and/or liberal people are more likely to not have children because they don't feel as pressured by 'tradition'. Then there are the economical reasons, which manage to dissuade/delay even those people who do want children. I don't want kids and none of my close friends, even those currently in well established LTRs, want them. We are all in our early 30s. It's definitely recognized as a problem by govern…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 06:19 PM
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I would say incels in general are already a minority. The vocal toxic ones just take the other ones who are not yet black pilled down with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 05:28 PM
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I'm more willing to believe you're still bad at sex than that you were good your first time. You can believe whatever you like. You asked and I've answered. I have no stake in convincing your of my sexual prowess or lack of thereof. We're strangers on the internet. We may have different definitions of 'good'. It lasted about 30 minutes, it was very sensual, penetration was slow for obvious reasons (her comfort). Overall it was a good time and memory and nothing was 'wrong' with it. It may not ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 05:22 PM
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Sounds more cringe than anything else tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 04:43 PM
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It may have come off like that because I am indeed tired of incels and the mental gymnastics they partake in to justify whatever belief they currently hold to make themselves feel better by exaggerating their martyrdom. I've been lurking in this sub for a long time and the same shit is being posted all the time, often by the same people. While I understand they have mental issues (I do as well), they need to face reality at some point and a slight slap might shake them up enough to derail their …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 04:36 PM
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