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support requestlawott2/r/MenSupportMen15/04/22 01:49 PM
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otherlawott2/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/05/23 10:33 AM
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For now I would prefer to stick with what I've said in addition to my original example, which you haven't said anything about.
/r/MensRights15/06/24 01:20 PM
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I am directly addressing the claim of the original writer. They claim that the patriarchy is to blame for war, and that "feminism doesn't valorize war". This is not true, and I brought up a directly relevant example of a leading feminist that valorized war. There are plenty of other strains of militarist feminism and types of feminism that encourage male expendability, right up to the modern day. I am aware that there are also anti-war feminists, but then we get into the issue of who claims to b…
/r/MensRights15/06/24 12:59 PM
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I wish this were the case, but historically this simply isn't true. Perhaps the best example is Emmeline Pankhurst, who was a major organiser of the Suffragette movement. It's worth remembering that the Suffragettes are continuously cited as one of the examples of 'good' feminism with noble aims of straightforward equality. Whether or not that's accurate, Emmeline Pankhurst is a central figure in feminist history, and she was also an ardent militarist and member of the White Feather Girls, a mob…
/r/MensRights15/06/24 09:51 AM
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People can lead dramatically different lives depending on their choices, so take any advice like this with a grain of salt. I am a business owner, charity founder, and work with international health authorities. I've also worked for one of Europe's most profitable medical companies and made pretty good money doing so. I'm currently in contact with editors to publish my first book and scientific article this year. My background is working class and I felt extremely intimidated by/alienated from h…
/r/MensRights23/04/24 11:18 AM
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Do you mind me asking how you achieved your high net worth?
/r/MensRights03/03/24 11:58 AM
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I think that as long as nobody is seriously advocating violence, men can come here and express themselves in whatever way they want. If you, personally, want to see more concrete action, then you are welcome to be the change that you want to see. Otherwise, I see nothing convincing in your argument.
/r/MensRights21/11/23 11:42 AM
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It seems common to conflate an innocent crush with actually having sex. Yes, it's natural for a 15 year old boy to be attracted to women. It is unacceptable for an adult to act on that attraction with someone below the age of consent. We have an age of consent to protect younger people from abuse and exploitation. The issue is that it's now rare (to the point of being a social taboo) to attribute nefarious motives to female sexuality. But women are human too, and their sexuality can be predatory…
/r/MensRights20/10/23 06:29 AM
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I agree that it is a double standard if a similar profile were to be banned from the platform for saying they advocate for "telling women they're worthless" in their profile. At least she does make herself easy to avoid, but even then I am concerned about a man with low enough self-esteem to tolerate that nonsense and actually be with her.
/r/MensRights28/08/23 09:40 PM
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You're probably not going to find much resistance against that argument, here. Yes, affection in relationships should be reciprocal. Maybe you should also post this elsewhere and see what kind of mixed responses you get.
/r/MensRights28/08/23 09:30 PM
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It's a poetic way of saying that planning requires a lot of thought, but you can think most freely when alone. You're right that most people require a balance. If you find your plans are not actualised in a way that satisfies you, you should consider breaking down bigger plans into smaller items and focus on doing those. Conversely, if you find yourself going through the motions of daily life without a greater purpose, it might be time to take a step back and reflect, then make new plans. I can …
/r/MensRights10/06/23 11:15 AM
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I can't really make out what you're trying to say, but for the two points that do make sense: even if multiple people are writing in, that person is still the author of the comment I quoted. As for "going into a fit of rage", that's your fantasy and not at all the tone of my post.
/r/MensRights07/06/23 06:14 AM
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They already do. I believe it was research out of the University of Manchester that found a majority (around 80%, from memory) of men who had committed suicide had been in contact with health services in the year prior to their deaths. Even in the way we formulate questions, we shunt the responsibility back onto men to fix themselves, even as they follow the advice meted to them, and then go on to meet or exceed the requirements and obstacles we place in their way. In my view, the better questio…
/r/MensRights06/06/23 04:16 PM
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I came here to say exactly this. This kind of wordplay is everywhere once you begin to notice it.
/r/MensRights06/06/23 03:38 PM
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On the contrary, it's a cheap and obvious tactic, but it works as a deflection when it's repeated often enough. Men are conditioned to take responsibility first and foremost. Besides stating the obvious, the author Jessica Stoya blithely writes: "This is your current partner’s sexual response, his dick, and his responsibility, in the end". Can you imagine for even a split-second the reverse appearing in a sex column? "She can't orgasm? Oh well, her pussy, her responsibility". In any case, magazi…
/r/MensRights06/06/23 03:34 PM
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This doesn't bear any obvious relevance to men's rights. That said, I recently wrote that we tend to individualise and minimise men's problems, and especially so in relationships. This usually involves shifting the complaint back onto the person expressing it. I might be inclined to do the same here, and indeed whenever I hear some tedious generalisation about men and dating. She just needs to work on herself -- maybe she's not so good in bed? Why is she so inhibited? Maybe she should go to a th…
/r/MensRights06/06/23 02:20 PM
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I would broaden this discussion a bit to point out that this is the internet and it is very easy to lie about your identity or experiences. There is usually little reason to call attention to some unprovable characteristic when posting here, and it makes any post beginning with, "woman, here..." very suspect. Unless it is directly relevant to the conversation it does not add much. I would also point out that both /r/LadyMRAs and /r/FeMRA have been devoid of activity for a year or more. Looking o…
/r/MensRights05/06/23 02:38 PM
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Most "-ist" designations don't mean much in everyday life, unless you treat ideas in a zero-sum fashion and are directly involved in advocacy, trying to win funding or change people's minds. Even then, I pay far less attention to the characterisation of an argument as belonging to a particular "-ism" than the merit of the argument itself. As an example, I would support ending FGM for human rights reasons, and it doesn't really matter to me whether this is characterized by others as a feminist po…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/06/23 12:27 PM
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I've said this before: "safety" is being used as a sleight-of-hand, here. Very few of the posts on AWDTSG groups are relevant for the safety of anyone. Look at the nature of the comments posted on these groups; very few will make any reference to someone being in danger. As an aside, I think this is why the use of the insult "creepy" is used so commonly, and especially against men. It is essentially a way of conflating "this person makes me uncomfortable" with "this person is a threat".
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/06/23 11:39 AM
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1) Researching the issues so that I can relate my personal experiences to the bigger picture. As you point out, often the first instinct of others is to minimize and individualize men's problems, but understanding and expressing how events in my life can be part of a larger pattern can lead others to acknowledge the biases that we have working against men. 2) Reading and speaking about these issues so that I have the vocabulary to communicate about very unpopular topics. It is a false and malici…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/06/23 11:29 AM
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We all ought not judge anyone but ourselves, because it is only ourselves who we will ever be able to truly know. This is equivocating. While I respect the need to try to understand why people harm others, it does not mean we should tolerate it when they actually do harm others. These are different things. In this case, suspicion of wrongdoing does not justify infringing on someone's privacy, whether the person considers it a matter of their survival or not. By your reasoning, all harmful behavi…
/r/MensRights29/05/23 08:22 AM
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This reads like a post from someone determined to discredit anyone concerned with discrimination against men. No one should be raped or robbed even if they go out drinking, and no one should be accused of being a rapist based on their immutable characteristics. These things are not mutually exclusive.
/r/MensRights28/05/23 01:40 PM
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Simple question: if the roles were reversed and he had a rough relationship history, therefore he chose to post a picture of her online asking for her previous date partners and exes to vet her, would this be acceptable?
/r/MensRights28/05/23 11:20 AM
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Imagine that you told her that you had posted her picture on the internet without her permission in order for other people she's dated to evaluate her trustworthiness and character. How do you think she'd handle that? What if you tried to justify it by saying you'd been lied to and abused in the past, would she have excused you for that reason? You have every right to feel your privacy has been violated because it has. That crossed a boundary that made you uncomfortable, and you are allowed to e…
/r/MensRights28/05/23 07:59 AM
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Yes, many of the tasks in the list are less frequent, but they're also genrtally more difficult, dangerous, and/or dirty tasks. Why call attention to only that one aspect of the tasks, other than to further downplay men's already unrecognized contributions to domestic labour? Why would only stay at home parents be affected by decision fatigue? The commute and working day are also full of decisions that need to be made. As for "constantly be trying to fulfill everyone’s expectations/needs while n…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/05/23 08:53 PM
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I went through every item and it's amazing how much of this I've done, despite only living in a rental and being in a 4 year relationship. I bought lumber and repaired our bedframe when it broke, I'm always the motorcycle rider, I'm unclogging the shower drain and sinks, taking out the garbage, managing risky investments, sharpening knives, assembling furniture, etc.. I also contribute to some of the traditionally "female" tasks, including cooking. With all that said, it's the emotional stuff th…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/05/23 07:55 PM
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Your response wasn't compassionate, it was presumptuous. Nothing in the OP suggested he was lacking self-respect or humility; what he noticed was a double standard that many people here point out regularly (and that there's even a decent amount of evidence for by now when it's been studied in the social sciences). Think about it, are women and girls that request access to traditionally male spaces lacking in self-respect or humility? What you're doing is individualising male observations ("it's …
/r/MensRights22/11/22 11:39 AM
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Callous, thoughtless response. The OP is clearly on the younger side or reflecting on experiences from early life. His observation is valid and based in his own experience, and also reflects broader trends of a push for inclusivity for women in traditionally male organisations with no efforts for the reverse (the Boy Scouts in the U.S. is a good example). To the OP: when you bring up these topics, you'll experience a lot of these reflexive responses that amount to little more than "man up and ac…
/r/MensRights22/11/22 11:18 AM
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I think most things in parenting are about setting a good example. My own approach is to recognise them and accept them but to handle them as rationally as I can, with the long-term good in mind. If that approach strikes them as valid and seems to work for me, I hope they follow that behaviour.
/r/MensRights08/11/22 01:24 PM
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Sounds more like she shares those expectations than "destroys" them.
/r/MensRights08/11/22 01:19 PM
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Other posters have already addressed the actual situation well; yes, it was a non-sequitor and relied on a convenient "soundbite" phrase, and yes, her goal (conscious or not) was to shut down a perspective she didn't like. There are ways of practically handling cheap tactics like that, but I want to offer a little advice to you, OP, personally. It's helped me to be clear in my own mind about my feelings and expectations when it comes to discussing certain topics. If you bring up a topic like gen…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/10/22 11:11 AM
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Generally I would agree with you that women are interested in men, but I do take issue with two things: A lot of men suck. And imo that’s a good thing because once you get yourself right, you’ll see how little competition you have. On this subreddit, of all places, surely we can avoid using this kind of rhetoric. We regularly discuss double standards, here, and the expectation to take the risk of approaching is one of them. A lot of social interaction comes down to experience and "feel" of a sit…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/05/22 09:17 AM
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I'm not going to deny the scale of your problems or how long the road back will be from the sort of isolation and alienation you've felt -- I just want to firmly state that the road definitely exists. It might also be worth keeping in mind that, to some extent, we are all making up for deficits we've experienced socially or otherwise. You and the OP certainly have it harder than others, but you're not alone, and others have managed to develop full, healthy relationships despite their trauma and …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/05/22 12:58 PM
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It's funny. I grew up feeling the financial and emotional pressures of a stressed out dad trying to make ends meet in a working class household, so when I think of ways I can potentially protect my future kids, my mind goes to making sure I have a good career and enough material resources to help them out with. So in that sense, I can understand why you'd want to protect your son from the struggles that might preoccupy you, but I also think you're seeing this in really stark biological terms. To…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/05/22 09:56 AM
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Even those properties are a fairly tentative consensus. I'm not disputing you, by the way: it could well be that testosterone has a "status-enforcing" or "status-seeking" psychological effect in amidst all the other complicated biology, but I think the way more important point you make is about which behaviours are rewarded and seen as innately "masculine" by society. It reminds me a little of the programmes being run to reduce violence amongst teen boys. The better ones acknowledge that the mos…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/05/22 05:06 PM
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I think we are over-reliant on extremely crude evolutionary psychology to explain many human behaviours that are actually socially derived. This isn't to say our biology doesn't exist; it does, but the many interactions between it and what we decide to do are very difficult to understand. The most obvious evidence of this is that every hormone seems to have multiple functions in the body. I believe that psychology will emerge from its infancy probably within the next few centuries, and we're goi…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/05/22 07:16 AM
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This post isn't trolling or a repost, it's satirical. In particular it's satirising the "we can do better" post, and I think it raises one fair point in doing so. The original "we can do better" post is full of mischaracterisations, vague ideas, and assumptions about the "the community". In reality, /r/MensRights doesn't seem to do a worse job than any other subreddit or internet forum in terms of the tone, quality of discussion, or moderation.
/r/MensRights26/04/22 02:45 PM
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But it's way worse when it's taken for granted that even things you're completely baffled by should be trivial. Not only do you get no real credit for doing it, you get negative credit if you can't. Brilliantly expressed, thank you for this. I think we are all guilty, to some degree, of failing to recognise the efforts and expertise of others. It's a very strong cognitive bias, and probably why we spend so much time drilling the practice of gratitude into children. It's been a very healthy exper…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/04/22 02:32 PM
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This was my first thought on hearing the term, too. People can certainly feign incompetence to get out of doing tasks entirely, but "laziness" is generally indicative of a deeper problem, sometimes unhappiness, frustration, or just continual discouragement. I think it's a fairly universal trait among people to enjoy doing a job well, and also appreciate getting recognition for it. If you like your partner (and you should like your partner) then it should come naturally to want to do things to pl…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/04/22 02:10 PM
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I appreciate what you're saying, but I think my social skills are mostly fine. The only times I've ever had an issue with social interactions are when I myself am stressed or distracted and don't have much mental bandwidth to dedicate to it. It's a very human limitation, but I have no trouble making friends, really. I think you're a little off with your shot in the dark. Note that I didn't say I felt awkward around strangers or new places, what I picked up on was a distinct lack of warmth, inter…
/r/MenSupportMen18/04/22 03:29 PM
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I appreciate what you're saying and will give it some more thought. Self-esteem, self-love, whatever you want to call it, is a puzzle I've certainly not figured out yet. I can say that I'm starting to value and recognise myself as a person regardless of my external circumstances or achievements.
/r/MenSupportMen15/04/22 03:49 PM
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I would take it a step further and say that, at some point, I started believing that I was only worthy of love and respect under very specific conditions. That part at least is within my control. I can recognise the things I like and admire about myself regardless of anything else.
/r/MenSupportMen15/04/22 03:43 PM
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I've heard the title but never read it. What did you take away from it? I could give it a try.
/r/MenSupportMen15/04/22 02:25 PM
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How did this go for you? I'd love to hear about your experiences as someone who also moves around a lot for work. For what it's worth, I was extremely nervous about travelling abroad for the first time in my early twenties. Now it's become very mundane - but I can still pick out many things I enjoy about it. There's nothing quite like the feeling of being in a totally unfamiliar city, and the sense that you can do something entirely new there. Edit: And of course reach out if you ever want to, I…
/r/MenSupportMen15/04/22 02:08 PM
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I would absolutely go to a male only gym, and in turn would become more supportive of female only gyms. My reasons are fairly straightforward. Men and women seem to use gyms in fairly different ways: I concede I don't have any statistics, but classes appear to me to be overwhelmingly women, whereas those training on their own are overwhelmingly men. I have often been in gyms where an entire floor is cordoned off for a scheduled class. Generally men and women gravitate towards different styles of…
/r/MensRights03/04/22 10:51 PM
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I essentially agree with her, and she seems like a fairly thoughtful and compassionate individual, but if I could offer any feedback to her I would also say that she doesn't seem to consider the role of creating and perpetuating unsympathetic stereotypes based on demographics. What I mean is, perhaps she could also ask herself why she was so unsympathetic towards "incels" to begin with, when it was directed at an outgroup based on a largely artificial stereotype of young, primarily white men who…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/02/22 09:56 AM
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Really interesting observation. When I think back to the way that people used the slur "faggot" when I was growing up, while it had viciously homophobic implications, the person's sexuality wasn't really being called into question. In fact, it was irrelevant. The point was just to humiliate them by associating them with something we used to see as unacceptable or embarrassing. Since homosexuality is increasingly accepted -- or at least, outright bigotry towards gay people can now bring its own b…
/r/MensRights02/02/22 02:58 PM
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I also picked up on this. It's also illustrative what constitutes a legitimate group: “That’s not this group,” Emily told me. “They’re mostly parents whose sons — at least as they see it — have gotten caught in the overcorrection.” Man aren't allowed to advocate for themselves, or even voice their discontent in their own words. Our grievances only matter when they affect other people by proxy (in this case, "parents").
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/11/21 08:02 PM
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I know it's in poor taste, but I have had it "click" with a few people by tactfully pointing out that the same thing is said about race. The rhetoric of "black on black violence" is used in a similar way as a reason to minimise concern for that group, and ultimately divert attention and resources from that group.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/11/21 11:02 AM
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Strongly disagree, we cannot and should not advocate violence here (regardless of how seriously you say it).
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/11/21 12:32 PM
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Thanks for sharing this. It does require an amendment, though -- young men didn't account for 61% of all global deaths, but rather 61% of all deaths between the ages of 10 to 24: https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2021/nov/01/nearly-two-thirds-of-those-who-died-young-in-2019-were-male-research-finds This doesn't detract from the fact there is a discrepancy, though, and essentially confirms that young men have to run a gauntlet of violence and trauma before making it to a statisticall…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/11/21 12:30 PM
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It speaks to the kind of organisation that John Marshall is advertising. I don't think this is a real opinion piece as much as PR. It seems to be promoting the "Potential Energy Coalition", which presents climate change as a "marketing problem". You can draw your own conclusions about how effective adopting corporate strategies are to raising awareness of climate change, but based on the relative ineffectiveness of news media, I am skeptical. Gender only has relevance if you consider that women …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/11/21 07:52 AM
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My interpretation is that to address "men's issues" is to unavoidably run into addressing class issues. A quick and easy example would be: despite the lack of recognition in popular culture, a number of dirty, dangerous, and critically important jobs remain majority male. This is one of the contributors to our shorter life expectancy. To address this "men's issue", though, would require acknowledging the relationship of labour to society, an extremely taboo topic. This applies somewhat more to m…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/11/21 09:51 AM
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I don't mean to dismiss the OP's reaction to this, and it might well be that this video has a positive social impact overall, but I want to just give a very personal take. The interviewees strike me as insincere, and frankly I find the original "apology" clip patronising. I remember being around age 9 or less when I first started talking to friends about sex bias in school, how differently we were treated in the classroom by teachers, indeed by adults generally. Kids aren't stupid. What I couldn…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/11/21 09:07 PM
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You're going to be coming up against serious biases if you try to express to people what happened. I'm really sorry this is the case. Perhaps it's a failure of previous generations like mine to bring this to public attention and talk about it more. If I have any advice for you, it's to try and step back and consider what you felt in those moments, acknowledge it, and recognise whatever importance they have to you. You may find they have none, you may find they have a lot. If you do need to act o…
/r/MensRights23/10/21 02:13 PM
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