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If women and society limit young man's access to relationships with women Whatever happened to accountability? Men are not the victims because they're not entitled to women's bodies. A women not wanting to fuck men isn't a crime; if you're not getting laid as a man, there's probably a good reason why. Take a look in the mirror and improve yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 08:24 PM
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What? I literally said I branchswung and it was because the other guy was higher value...how does that justification make me a good person lol? My reasoning is literally one of things Redpill says about women all the time😂
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/20 06:24 PM
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I cheated because the other guy was better in every aspect and I felt like I was settling for my boyfriend at the time if I stayed. Although I didn't have sex with the other guy, I made out with him and emotionally cheated as well. He wanted to become my boyfriend so I had to let the guy that I was dating at that time go for someone better (aka branchswinging).
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/20 06:17 PM
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Can confirm, am an awful successful person
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 01:51 PM
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Sounds like being opportunistic, an invaluable trait in every aspect of life.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 07:00 PM
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I think the real losers are the people that can't date up anymore because they're already so amazing. It's lonesome being the top 1% in the SMP
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 06:47 PM
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The trick is to not fully reject him. Leave the door open enough so he works hard to get the boyfriend status he will never achieve.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 06:33 PM
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Stop calling us out🙈
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 03:08 AM
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5'6.75
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 02:58 AM
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Eh I am not sure, I am just a height snob because I can get away with it. My husband is 6'2 and can lift me everywhere, idk if a 5'2 guy could do that although I am only 112lbs.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/20 08:09 PM
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I am senior enough that I don't really need to apply upper level math classes I took in undergrad. Enough zeroes on your paycheck and you'll never get bored.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/20 07:40 PM
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Lol I don't think that's what HR deals with, consultants focus on complex business side issues (entering a new market, M&A etc). I understand your confusion though, I didn't know shit about consulting at 19
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/20 07:31 PM
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How old are you? Consulting is pretty self explanatory without going into specializations: companies come with a problem and you research/ analyze data to give them solutions to implement. That's the most basic definition I can give you
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/20 07:24 PM
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I actually am not big on drinking and I was terrified of underage drinking so started at 21. Now I drink monthly because alcohol makes you gain weight. Also hello fellow blonde🙃
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/20 07:18 PM
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which one Management Consulting Doesn't it get exhausting at some point? Not really, I don't do it consistently enough for it to be a tiring routine. I do it whenever I feel like a man needs his ego stroked indirectly so I'll pretend to not know something so that he can explain it. It's worked wonderfully throughout my career
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/20 07:16 PM
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Yeah they do, especially since I am in a male dominated industry. I play dumb occasionally though so can't complain
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/20 07:06 PM
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It used to be 7 times a week but I started reserving my Sundays for God...thundercock
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/20 07:04 PM
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Yes, currently have the infamous Martini Glass (Bermuda triangle).
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/20 07:04 PM
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Touchè🤷🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/20 07:00 PM
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I wouldn't know, I can't count past 10. Source: I am a blonde woman
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/20 06:58 PM
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That would be suifuel🥺
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/20 06:57 PM
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I am planning on getting off birth control soon so I'll be craving masculine alpha drug dealer or a Ted Bundy clone. Give it 6 months
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/20 06:48 PM
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I went through all the stages of grief... especially since my Alpha Chad ex dumped me for a younger HB9
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/20 06:46 PM
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... it's all dried up since hitting the wall🥺
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/20 06:44 PM
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Get those hoes lined up gentlemen
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/20 06:37 PM
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The real wall
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/20 06:36 PM
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I used to run daily but stopped since I am trying to gain weight. BMI is around 17.6
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/20 09:58 PM
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A bunch of comments from men who have probably never read the handbook and the recommended books
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/20 03:15 PM
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PPD is frequented by a lot of MRA/mansophere guys that want to always preach against marriage because of "divorce rape." So when people reply and say "just get a prenup", this myth helps them respond. The sad part is it shows how susceptible a lot of these men are to misinformation and echoing it to so much that after a while, it doesn't matter to them if there is empirical evidence to support their stance. A decent lawyer will help you avoid extraneous clauses that would have your prenup thrown…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/20 09:00 AM
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Nope. Even the reverse happened to me, my husband clean shaven looks about 27-28 but is in reality 35. I got the talk about immature young men and how they take women for granted. I personally don't shame women that date outside their age group but if a friend was dating a guy that was more than 10yrs older than them, I'd make sure they vetted them well.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/20 01:27 AM
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When I was about 21+ I expected more effort in dates, I graduated college at 21 and I feel like if you have a decent job post grad that should be easy enough
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/20 08:07 AM
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I've always had good relationships. I think it's all about the type of people you choose, there are people in this world no matter how good things are in reality will never be happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/20 02:12 PM
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You sound average
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/20 12:54 AM
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Honestly practice makes perfect. It also depends a lot on your priorities in life; I always have myself as my #1 priority and it seems a bit strange to stay hung up on other people that I am not responsible for. Especially men, they have moms, I am not theirs.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/20 12:49 AM
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Damn it why can't we answer🥺
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/20 10:16 PM
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They're dumb. There is nothing to be depressed about in modern America if you're healthy and not poor. Self created drama
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/20 07:27 AM
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What's this in response to exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 09:55 AM
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A couple of nights ago my friends came over and we were trying to reenact Magic Mike (named it Magic Macy). Most of us in our late 20s to 30s. I think this says more about the women you observe than women in general. I tend to be more comfortable being goofy with women but I used to hangout with my male colleagues every Friday night and goof off.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 09:54 AM
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Yep and you know because you're a psychic 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 08:32 AM
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It just made it seem as though he was keeping score. We were dating and he wanted to take a vacation; I didn't because back then I was saving for a down payment on my house. He paid for the vacation because he invited me and just wanted to spend time with me. It rubbed me the wrong way like he was keeping score and counting being repaid. I probably would've done something for him equally as thoughtful but the expectation of it was off-putting.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 08:11 AM
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How does this prove ALL women belong below men? Since you brought in success/finances, the fact that I probably make more than 90% of American men doesn't disprove that? The fact that 30% of women are the breadwinners in their marriages doesn't disprove that?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 07:23 AM
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make as much money or more Reading comprehension is on the decline
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 07:18 AM
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.... isn't that question regarding more what I filter by? I only consider dating men seriously if they make as much money as me or more. Your post implies regardless of circumstances, women are below men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 07:16 AM
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Um just no. The fact that some women on this thread are saying they don't proves that. This is such an odd assertion especially the women naturally belong below men
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 06:53 AM
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I have discovered that good reasons for me aren't good enough in the eyes of 95% of the population. I broke up with a guy once because he took me on a vacation and covered all the costs. I was thanking him when he hit me with the "It's all good you can cover the next one."
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 06:09 AM
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What region of the US is that?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 05:17 AM
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30K is broke idk what you're talking about
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 05:07 AM
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Education, Location and social circle. My husband and I are both in high powered white collar jobs, we have a similar circle of friends, similar level of education, and live in similar neighborhoods. Honestly that's all you need to be in the same class someone else most of the time and if you marry someone that has the same lifestyle as you financially/socially, it'll be within class and if those things aren't present then it'll below or above.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 05:05 AM
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I think they should and most of the men I've dated cared to an extent. My husband told me he liked not having to worry about me only wanting him for his money because I have my own. Now that egalitarian relationships are becoming all the hype, men that don't care about a woman's finances should be comfortable paying for things she can't afford. That $50 meal might be a lot of money to a woman earning 20k a year.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 05:02 AM
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My husband and I don't have fully joint accounts, we have a "Yours, Mine, Ours" system of sorts. We have an account for all household expenses and we both put 10% of our incomes in it. So from that account, our property taxes and shared expenses are paid off. It doesn't feel like we're going 50/50 because it's one account for all the things people would traditionally split. I pay for anything him & I are gonna enjoy from our joint account and mostly reinvest my money.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy10/09/20 04:34 AM
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Agreed
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 12:27 AM
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Yes but my bewilderment comes from finding 100+ people attractive enough to sleep with😂 I can't imagine finding 100+ men attractive enough for sex is all
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 12:27 AM
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I am not sure how people can get into the three digits, I don't even think there are a 100 men in my city that I would find attractive enough for sex. I think the hookup culture shows how true some of this stuff is and since a vast majority of women/men have decided sex has no meaning and just do it for "fun" I am in the 10-15 range depending on how you count it and I am 31
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/20 09:59 PM
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I like this but outside of the bedroom it has to be lowered significantly. It's hot in bed but outside of bed, being polite and thoughtful of my feelings is hot outside of bed. I like a different tone because I don't want to feel like I am not his equal. I don't need equality in bed though😭
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/20 08:57 PM
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You never really define what you mean by having it all. I don't think I compromised on anything in particular to be with my husband. Since you're talking about the economy, I have it "all" if that is a white collar job with great comp as well as a partner that can easily take care of me if I were to stop working. It's okay to have high standards/expectations if you can successfully get with the people that check off your criteria
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/20 07:42 PM
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In serious LTRs, it always comes up casually. It's never asked in a way in which I wasn't afforded a chance to dodge it. I usually answer honestly because I would like the same courtesy; there is definitely no correlation between men that ask and their performance in bed. The one guy that had trouble with my n count or the context of it I ended up marrying me and I naturally wouldn't have done that if the sex wasn't good.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/20 05:57 PM
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How so? Just like people want to be objectified by the people they find attractive, I want the man I am with to protect me and be slightly possessive of me.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/20 05:37 AM
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Physically and character wise I think you should be picky. I don't think it's important to have hobbies in common but be able to take part in each other's interests easily. For me, I was probably pickiest about looks and least picky about hobbies and background.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/20 05:35 AM
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Yep, PPD has taught me that's not the norm apparently
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/20 03:45 AM
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That's way too confrontational for my liking so I hope it doesn't get less shallow in that sense. If I were single and on that app, I would absolutely hate the concept of video calling men I am not attracted to. I may be one of the few people that actually likes the swiping feature of Bumble/Tinder and other apps, it's like going to a bar and choosing the physical appearance of the men that get to approach which I would have loved to do IRL.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/20 03:12 AM
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This is all good but the attacking starts when men complain about women having "high" standards when they themselves have standards that can be dubbed high by just about anyone. If men can have these preferences and don't want to be bashed for them, women should be granted the same. Men here go absolutely ballistic on any woman that has standards that would eliminate a large percent of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/20 10:29 PM
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Your hypotheticals are getting a bit ridiculous, just because you didn't get the response you wanted from me doesn't mean I am work. We all can choose our partners based on similar values and that's what my 100% compatible partner would have. If my aunt had a dick, she'd be my uncle
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/20 10:19 PM
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Maybe for the male imperative but I honestly find it attractive and really masculine. We went out to a restaurant and the waiter was flirting with me in my husband's presence and his reaction made me feel protected and loved. Not into men that get into fights either but there are ways to deescalate situations without a fistfight, that's attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/20 10:17 PM
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I look down on women that do that, so no it's not about other women it's about my own values. If a man is 100% perfect for me, he won't want to fuck me on the first date when he knows very little about me. He'll care about who sticks his dick in also LOL at thinking not fucking early on is an emotional issue😭
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/20 10:02 PM
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Because it's masculine to me. I have found myself in situations where a simple "no thank you" wouldn't have sufficed and my attraction to my partner increased with his reaction to protecting me in those instances. If I am alone with a man he feels may try to hit on me, I don't mind if he voiced his displeasure. Ultimately, I'd rather he does that than not care at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/20 10:01 PM
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I am not sure why people on here don't like mate guarding, I've always been attracted to men when they seriously showed they didn't want other men getting my attention/flirting with me. It's always acceptable IMO if there are grounds; you can't be threatened by my ugly colleague but it's perfectly reasonable to feel that way about my personal trainer.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/20 09:41 PM
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Absolutely. The closest I got to feeling that 100% compatibility was with my husband initially and I took up Yoga and meditation to stop me from acting on my sexual attraction to him for a bit. I just don't think it's a good look to fuck even your future soulmate on the first date
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/20 09:38 PM
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For people with low standards, yeah. They apparently only need one date to know: If someone is STD free If they are intellectually/emotionally compatible And a multitude of things that you can learn way more about over a period of weeks/months than several hours. Additionally, I have realized my friends that don't have high self-esteem thing sex is the only way they can keep a man interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/20 03:26 PM
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Yes. I have been engaged multiple times without ever having to live with the men prior to the marriage. Supporters of cohabitation will swear by it being a test of true compatibility and the trial period for marriage but I seriously doubt it. People don't divorce because a man keeps the toilet seat up, or a woman has bad sleeping habits. People divorce because of financial reasons, infidelity and attrition. Date people well and I wouldn't see the need for cohabitation
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/20 02:39 PM
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Men are pretty awful 😭 thankfully I don't have to deal with most of them romantically except for one now. Find a unicorn sis
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/20 10:50 AM
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All the features you listed are such non-negotiables that I wonder how people can just switch on their attraction for men that don't have them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/20 11:26 PM
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I am a woman and even I want variety but it's not a need, it seems as though it is for you. It's stupid that our society has idolized monogamy but the truth is most women expect it...so just don't settle down. One of the best ways I have mitigated acting on my want for variety is at least telling my husband my sexual desires. If you are married and you're not trying to have all your fantasies/kinks considered by the one person you're allowed to have sex with, you're stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/20 05:26 PM
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Who said we can't have it all....
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/20 11:16 AM
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I have commitment issues so I subscribed to the whole LTRs are a scam mindset for a long time. But sometimes you meet someone that completely checks all your boxes and you can have all the great sex with and then you decide to get married. I don't understand the appeal of children yet though, that's way too much commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/20 11:15 AM
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Most of my female friends have a "backup" oddly enough. It's not necessarily an unproven man but it's a guy that they know they would have had fun with/been compatible with but the timing wasn't right. Personally, if my marriage ended there are 3-4 men I know intimately that I am sure would like to be in a committed relationship with me. It's all about options
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 09:44 PM
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Absolutely this👐 Eliminating a large portion of men helped me focus on the few men that met my standards
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 04:28 PM
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They already teach women that. And....common sense isn't so common. With the changing social norms, I can see that a lot of people need to be taught how to vet correctly. Calling people stupid for not knowing how to be born knowing certain things isn't fair, they're learning and on a journey that will helpfully end well for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 03:58 PM
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I am not sure what the point of your comment is. Men on here claim ALL FDSers are fat, mentally ill (you calling them autistic) and it can't be proven. Additionally, a lot of FDSers are told to get comfortable alone because one of it's main mantras is that "you're better off single than with an LVM" so there is no encouragement of just settling. The people that can't find relationships with HVM are encouraged and often post about hanging their hat and just enjoying their life.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 03:54 PM
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People don't like being excluded. The fact that FDS doesn't allow any opinions outside of their sphere makes people agitated as well as that if you use FDS, you're essentially eliminating 90+% of the male population (give or take). I actually didn't mind that and I think that's how people find happiness; if I went out with every guy that asked me out I wouldn't have had time to meet and date my now husband seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 03:47 PM
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What's this lack of respect? Both men & women need to earn respect, it just so happened that men used to be given respect by virtue of having a penis.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 02:57 PM
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Well if you're not okay with it, dump him then? The double standard is 100% preventable since vice versa you would have complete control over whether or not you want to continue seeing him. Simply put, people asking each other about n count isn't LV.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 02:57 AM
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If someone is a picky eater and prefers their own food, it only makes sense that they cook for themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 12:51 AM
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I married an old fashioned guy and we don't have those problems at all. He prefers his food so he does the cooking and we hire help for cleaning.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 12:32 AM
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I guess I just don't notice then, I also live in the South.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/20 03:21 PM
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The 5/10 man you're describing sounds ugly to me. The bare minimum according to your post is: 5'8 and a bit chubby. This guy is both short and chubby, how is this the average man?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/20 02:54 PM
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I don't see the issue with hypergamy. Women upgrade for resources and men upgrade for looks. 50yr old men will dump their age appropriate wives for one in her 20s in a heartbeat.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/20 02:38 PM
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If you say so🤷🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/20 05:41 AM
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I am not looking for the standard treatment so good riddance✌️
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/20 05:38 AM
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What? This is someone I am going to potentially date, sleep with and marry, why should he treat me and pursue me the same way he pursues others? I don't treat my husband as an equal to my male friends now or when we were dating. And if you're alluding to feminism, well it's definition is this: the doctrine advocating social, political, and all other rights of women equal to those of men. Nothing in feminism says "Go dutch on a date with a man although he most likely picked the location and asked…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/20 05:31 AM
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You never hear about it from women who are selecting for what they want because it's a none issue for them. The women that complain/bring up a man making them go dutch rarely speak about it fondly. It's usually"he made me go dutch can you believe it?" If everyone is selecting for what they want, kudos to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/20 05:11 AM
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I just think men should pay if they wanna be on the right side of it🤷🏼‍♀️ Of all the dates I've ever been on, I never had to split the bill. So if some guy randomly made me go 50-50, he would've been hurting himself for his chances for a second date.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/20 04:05 AM
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I think men need to understand this. I have yet to meet a man that made me split the bill; asking a woman to go 50-50 on the first date is risky. You may luck out and she can be used to that or...you could be one of the few weird guys that have put her in that situation. There are enough men willing to pay for the first date that I can't respect any woman that has to constantly deal with the 50-50 guys
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/20 04:03 AM
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If a man wants to leave a good impression on you and impress you, he'll pay. I don't think men make women they find VERY attractive (their ideal type physically) pay. So if he makes you pay, he doesn't care enough
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/20 03:57 AM
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As long as my taxpayer dollars don't go towards treating them I am fine
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/20 12:27 AM
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I can't be homophobic/judge people for loving who they love until I can geniunely tell others why I love what I love. I can't coherently explain why my last 6+ exes were all around the same height, hair color, and build so how can I judge someone for their preferences? Now trans people are sick IMO. It's not politically correct to say so but I geniunely don't think there is any legitimacy in them feeling a different gender than they are
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/20 12:25 AM
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Every woman I know and anyone that has gone to a college in a big city has had FWBs/ONS etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/20 09:22 PM
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For me it was my first sex partner. I lost my virginity at 15 and it wasn't anything pleasant or worthwhile. I began sugar dating from 18-21 and had who I would call my first sex partner As a result, I could never get sexually aroused easily. My love language is gifts/acts of service and it completely turned me off from the casual hook-up culture that most people participated in during their early 20s. I can't imagine having sex just to have sex without the man putting a significant amount of ti…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/20 05:47 PM
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The best way to mitigate this is to not disclose. I have no idea why people think they need to tell their SO about plastic surgery procedures they did prior to meeting them. I only found out my husband got some work done when I saw a picture of him before the procedure and noticed the difference. In theory I would have a problem with it but it gave me a better product so I don't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/20 04:40 PM
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Well that's the only way you can avoid having a girlfriend/wife to have a child🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/20 06:24 AM
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You can be the sole parent. Get a surrogate and a donor egg and be comfortable with the idea of being the only parent aka the mom and the dad role will be yours. Cristiano Ronaldo's first son didn't have a mom and he discussed in multiple interviews that he raised him as the only parent. It works
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/20 06:03 AM
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Men don't prefer thick women. I am 112lbs and 5'6 and the number of men that have complimented me on my figure are far too many for someone that doesn't fit the modern beauty standard according to your post. The beauty standard has stayed the same for the most part but media/ and pop culture has altered what we see the most in front of us. Thin women will never be called borderline obese or overweight but thick women can/and will be at some point considered that. Lose weight, remember the the ru…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/20 05:59 AM
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Guys usually took me out to dinner on the first date, movie/ballet/opera show after or just visited local monuments. 2nd date: Some sort of full day activity, picnic/golfing/boating 3rd date: Guys would know sex wasn't on the table so we'd continue doing things like ax throwing/ bowling/shooting After that we could get comfortable and I'd be okay coming over to their place for them to cook for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/20 05:36 PM
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It works. I never actively pursued relationships and tended to meet men when I wasn't looking. You have to be extremely comfortable in being alone but know that that's unlikely since there are always interested parties
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/20 05:00 PM
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The whole point of my comment was to show 99.9% don't fit one statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/20 05:31 AM
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Not all short men are weak, just most.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/20 05:29 AM
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.... well then when you become a billionaire, marry an ugly girl or date solely ugly girls since "they're hardworking" by your logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/20 02:02 AM
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If men can go for beautiful women, those women should aim for men with the most resources.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/20 01:58 AM
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Gold digger = a woman with a man for his money. Overtly antagonized by both men & women although 99% of the time the man in question is with her for her beauty or youth. Whether people are antagonized or not, the validity of their preferences should still stand. If a rich man wants you, go for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/20 01:44 AM
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I don't see what's wrong with this. Broke & Handsome don't go together. If a woman wants financial security that she can't provide for herself, she should try to attain that in a partner if possible. All men want hot wives but somehow women are antagonized for wanting men with resources
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/20 01:35 AM
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Yeah and how the man is making me feel. I find my husband very attractive so I get turned on easily around him and I would feel bad if I just laid down unresponsive.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/20 05:43 PM
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I like it for that to honestly be secondary. I prefer knowing that a man finds me attractive and then all the rest is just icing on the cake
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/20 05:41 PM
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I guess so, it just depends on who's evaluating it. My husband dubs those feminine qualities but it can be different for every man/woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/20 05:43 AM
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You can be engaging and hard-working without having the urge to lead the conversation/discussion. That makes it seem as though being feminine = being lazy, there is nothing feminine about laziness. I was referring to sitting back in the relationship dynamics as well, being engaging and sitting back (allowing someone to take care of you) aren't mutually exclusive. Additionally, feminine behavior in the traditional sense would be: soft spoken (don't have to yell to make a point), not interrupting,…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/20 05:26 AM
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Oh sorry I think I worded that incorrectly. I meant "following his lead" and for that to happen he had to take the lead That was more prevalent during our courtship; he was responsible for asking me out, planning the date and doing most of the logistical legwork. In turn, I did my best to sit back and be more feminine
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/20 04:59 AM
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That wasn't the the point of the comment I was replying to. The other comment made it seem as though a woman being single at 35 is a sign of a character flaw and lack of commitment on her end. The OP post says that what's the attractiveness of younger women other than looks (which are a given). Physically, everyone looks better younger.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/20 07:42 PM
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It was enthusiastic because of his approach, I never felt pushed into them but it was more like "he's the man of my dreams and this is what he values, let me partake in that." And I think my enthusiasm in adopting them probably led to us getting married within 1.5yrs of dating+being engaged.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/20 05:35 PM
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I know but my point is that TRP isn't the Bible of human interaction and female attraction to women. There are different types of women, some are in better relationships when their SO caters to them more.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/20 05:32 PM
2

Well according to TRP, the sky might as well be shades of green
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/20 05:22 PM
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... isn't the man in question 35 years old himself and single as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/20 05:14 PM
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Beta men are better so yes
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/20 05:13 PM
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I kinda did. My husband is a pretty traditional thinking Catholic and I wasn't for the most part. To become compatible with his lifestyle, I adopted some of his values (i.e church, gender roles a little, taking his lead, "acting like a woman") I am willing to adapt and fit someone else into my life and vice versa as long as I find them worthy of that. It's been interesting because now I have a whole new set of values/people that I would have never been introduced to. Also, the modern gentlemen t…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/20 03:44 PM
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The only flaw in your logic is that OP is referring to an arrangement where you're a sister-wife which means you KNOW and you are accepting it and making it official. There is no chance to be in denial because... he's legally married to other women too.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/20 01:24 PM
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Sharing in your comment just means men stepping out (cheating) for the ones that don't know and an open relationship. Most what ifs are easy to say "you don't know until you're in that position" but by the sheer % of women that desire monogamy....I don't think this thread is far from the truth. Especially as a lot of the responses have alluded to being financial stable themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/20 09:21 AM
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All women are bisexual Um what? I can admire a women's body but my interest in the female anatomy is minimal at best. I have no idea where you got this generalization from.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/20 09:11 AM
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plenty of annoyance from other women though I am sure That's what I meant, not sure if my wording was confusing but it seems like we agree🤷🏼‍♀️ Other women are annoyed they can't have him
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/20 06:48 AM
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You would break up with a guy just because he's wanted by a lot of women even though he's committed to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/20 06:36 AM
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You're welcome 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/20 05:57 AM
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Highly desireable man = has qualities all women would find attractive. It only works when a man actually wants you and is not interested in being "robbed" so to speak. Also you're not taunting anyone. You're in a healthy relationship and naturally some people will be envious of you and want to take your place.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/20 05:53 AM
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The whole point of having an HVM or a man that other women want is that....they can't have him. You both commit to stopping your courtship of other people because you see something valuable in each other. So with that said, absolutely not. Sharing is definitely not caring when you're with a highly desireable man (or wealthy man in this case).
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/20 05:40 AM
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It's none of anyone on PPD's business but I was agreeing with the notion that time limits would be good.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 10:56 PM
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I always thought ugly people were the most vocal in this world. Guys on here will go ballistic on me if I were to say that 99% of men are completely unattractive to me and not worth my time. Why? Because people get triggered when you exclude them, so by saying "looks matter" they feel excluded. Also, they think calling someone shallow when it comes to dating is an insult....if you're not shallow with dating, how are you building physical attraction? Are you fucking people in the dark in hopes of…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 10:01 PM
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I don't know what's happening to PPD but it's all of a sudden becoming very agreeable. Yes it's not normal to date 5yrs before marriage, no one needs that much time to "get to know" you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 09:58 PM
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Yeah I don't wanna raise someone else's kid, even if a guy doesn't have full custody
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 03:33 PM
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It really isn't worth it to me. My husband is the one that wanted to get married
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 02:12 AM
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Love this! I always thought it was pathetic as a woman to chase a man
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 09:26 PM
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I wish OF was a thing when I needed money😭
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 08:07 PM
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I never do and I chalk it up to every man that has ever been interested in me has walked up to me and approached me. If you're generally an approachable person and you exchange a few glances, most men will. I think approaching would have changed the dynamic of all my past relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 03:45 PM
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I think consequences keep me from cheating. If I cheat on my husband, he'll probably leave me and vice versa. At the end of the day, you can't trust anyone fully except yourself and I don't think it's bad to always have a plan of action if or when someone cheats on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 02:10 AM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/ih4yl3/what_do_women_really_think_about_mgtow_should/g2y5q1s?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 09:20 PM
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I actually use those lines and it's not th point. If I asked a man out on a date, then I would pay. But that doesn't happen so it's not the point
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 08:57 PM
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I am pretty sure every guy I have ever been with absolutely LOVED it that I would ask follow up questions about the shit they would geek out on. Everyone likes talking about themselves and people being actively intrigued by them...so doing that is a great way to get a leg up in dating since common sense isn't so common.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 08:52 PM
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That's one data point that can be interpreted to fit multiple arguments. The one you want to make is that there are less high quality women, therefore men are getting married later in life which is difficult to measure and fits whatever narrative the mansophere wants it to. Another can be made that the stagnant wages and inability of the standard of living of today's family to match that of the 1950s - 1960s has made it economically more difficult for both men & women to settle down and get marr…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 08:26 PM
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I don't see the relevance of this comment to my original point. The point : More men participate in the Olympics of dating and therefore women don't have to adjust their requirements (set by the large % of men who will cater to them). The number of men a woman is dating at a time wasn't integral to my point but rather provided to support that vast majority of men play the game.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 08:12 PM
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That's not how productive discussions happen. You're the one making bold, unsubstantiated claims.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 07:55 PM
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It's men's fault for all being thirsty. If 30 men want to take me out on Friday night, 29 of them want to buy me dinner, go to the movies and have a date that they have to put a lot of effort into and 1 of them wants to meet at the local park.... obviously the dating Olympics are being tolerated by a large % of them so I can ignore the one that's not participating.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 07:38 PM
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To me at least, MGTOW describes a demographic of men who swear of ALL interaction with women unless obligatory (i.e work, public events, relatives) and prefer to have their needs met by an escort if the need arises. I know plenty of forever bachelor men and most of them can get women...so they do but they just don't commit. That's fine but when a demographic of men have to pay for sex while they're going their own way...yes I think they're undesirable 🤷🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 07:31 PM
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Please give me stats that the top 20% of men (attractive men) are swearing off marriage and gasp and at what alarming rates?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 07:27 PM
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well, when I was single I was never attracted to the guys that stopped dating No because if you had to go your own way it's not because you're desired by high quality women and if you're not a desireable man...I have no interest in you. The people that complain about rich people having too much money are overwhelmingly poor in comparison.... just like the men that complain all women are out to get them and divorce rape them are overwhelmingly unsuccessful with the high quality women who aren't a…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 07:15 PM
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Not quite, now I don't notice/interact with them IRL since I am married.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 07:11 PM
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Well when I was single, I was never attracted to the men that stopped dating and were just focusing on their lives. Always thought it was strange wondered how the hell they got laid (men paying for sex disgusted me). So as a woman, I can confirm that both men & women outside of the MGTOW-sphere don't care and we collectively say good riddance just like what men would say if all undesirable/unsuccessful/bitter women disappeared. Edit: the author is a weirdo
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 07:05 PM
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31
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 07:03 PM
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I sold myself to my wife That's expected, you're a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 07:00 PM
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Good to know you've met all the women on Earth
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 06:57 PM
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Already did....can confirm did not have to sell myself
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 06:55 PM
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My husband does that whenever we're dining. Might wanna go out and socialize
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 06:53 PM
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This strategy is playing to lose. Every date I have ever been on, the guy has picked up the tab. So now let's pretend I became single and went on a date... All of a sudden this guy wants me to pay and chase him, why would I pursue him when every guy I've ever been with him has lived up to dating gender role? I always thought of it as a first impression thing as well, if I am truly the object of a man's desire, he'll step up and put as much effort into impressing me and IME this has been true.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 06:51 PM
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I can't imagine the lack of self worth the women that participated have. Ladies, we don't have to sell ourselves and all this shit is subjective.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 02:03 PM
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Chemistry is so much more important. I feel like compatibility can be built over and tweaked (I can actively do certain things to be more compatible with my husband). Honestly, my husband and I were not very compatible. He was a douchey guy that thought the world revolves around him and everyone's needs came secondary to his own. He has completely adjusted his lifestyle to marry me and the only reason I stuck around was because of us having insane chemistry tl;dr there are a lot of men that have…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 04:17 AM
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Are you happy in your relationship, and how long have you been together? Yeah I am. We have been together for 1.5yrs but only married for about a month. If you came in to some sort of fame or wealth (of a very significant degree) would this change your sexy life or relationship at all? We already do well for ourselves but if we got to the level of billionaires, our lifestyle wouldn't change too much but we'd be more flexible with investments and vacationing. Assuming you would retain all your as…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 09:32 PM
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Men would rape duh. Edit: I think the consequences would be higher too as one of the other comments outlined. For instance, I have 2 brothers and if I got raped and there were no laws against it, you better believe that my brothers would kill/severely harm whoever raped me. A certain subset of the population would be protected (women by family relative's, minors by parents etc).
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 03:13 PM
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So you're trying to shame women into dating men they're not attracted to? Well ain't that dandy
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 12:27 AM
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Physical 6ft+ Runner's build preferably (overall fit) Clean shaven or 5 o'clock shadow Attractive Dark hair I am married to someone that fits my physical type so it's not hard at all. You just have to take care of yourself and look your best because all good looking people have plenty of options 🤷🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 08:01 PM
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It wouldn't change the fact that they would still be undesirable traits
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 06:25 PM
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...but I don't see what the goal of it is. If you shame enough women about it, do y'all think we'll magically change our minds? We just won't voice them but we'll keep our preference
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 06:11 PM
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It comes up the most with height. Women care...men tend not to. Saying you want a tall guy is like begging for incels to shame you for being shallow on here.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 04:37 PM
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Why are people called shallow for having preferences on here? I am genuinely curious when there are Q4W posts and all that the men ( mostly incel ones) are adding to the discussion is telling women they are shallow. What is the point and do they geniunely think people control what they're attracted to?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 04:26 PM
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Yes and extenuating circumstances like that are different.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 09:02 PM
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I literally stated that I would prefer someone that makes more than me rather than less than me....so what's your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 09:01 PM
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Yes but that would be a discussion. I could voice my concerns and if he ends up feeling inadequate... it's more of his fault than mine since he left a well paying job🤷🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 08:59 PM
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If my aunt had a dick she'd be my uncle. But yes obviously extenuating medical reasons change everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 08:20 PM
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Incredibly unrealistic. He's too ambitious to be happy with taking a janitor position. And thankfully, his investments have panned out well enough for him not to HAVE to
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 08:11 PM
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This is why you marry a guy that makes more than you. I am a career woman and earn well into the six figures too but if my husband was a janitor and felt inadequate because of the gulf in our incomes, it'd be awful. I feel bad for your friend, I see a lot of myself in her ideology (career woman, not washing dishes, rejection of trad role).
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 08:01 PM
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Sure, we dated for a bit and we even got engaged. I ultimately couldn't see him as my future husband but it was all amicable. I think that definitely would've been interesting as long as people could stay civil
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 12:53 AM
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The guy I cheated with was single but he knew I had a boyfriend. After we realized we wanted to pursue a relationship with one another, I decided to break up with my ex and get with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 12:47 AM
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Are you a man or a woman? Woman Have you cheated or been cheated on before? I cheated What happened? I was dating another guy that knew I was in a relationship at the same time. After a few weeks we realized we didn't want to sneak around or live a lie so I broke it off with my boyfriend at the time. How did it affect your opinion and interactions with the opposite sex? It kinda made me listen to guys that cheat on their Gfs/wives after long relationships. Sometimes people don't know if they act…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 11:54 PM
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No need to assume I haven't travelled, I am European born and work in an industry where travel is necessary. Ultimately I was using a definition that you can find on Google. Asian men don't have the same physical features as white/Hispanic/black men. Race≠ Nationality. Swiss men are WHITE and as a Swede...I am white as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 10:00 PM
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He's attractive. Look at his banner
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 08:02 AM
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"Race" which can be associated with certain physical appearances/hair texture and skin tone
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 06:30 AM
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Yes I care a lot more than I probably should. I feel like I perpetuate certain standards into my friend group and if my partner doesn't fit them; I am kind of a hypocrite. So I am always mindful of who I bring around my friends
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 05:09 AM
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I like this explanation a lot but does very little account for racial differences? For instance, I have a hard time finding certain races of men attractive simply because they don't have the facial features I find ideal. So is it subjective very little because something like race can mean an objectively 8/10 guy might be rated as 6/10
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 05:06 AM
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I actually think observation of those well-adjusted, mentally healthy, secure, mature, and high value people is a better way of going about it. Ask them their standards and their boundaries, see what the top percentile of people value and reflect on whether or not that's achievable. If all of them say "be a generous person" and you're not, then you can come to a conclusion. Observe or inquire about their standards/experiences rather than asking for advice since they will probably keep it vague a…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 12:08 AM
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Some men I didn't want my friends/family knowing I am dating them. They never are the type of relationships that are gonna last. When I met my husband, all my friend circle knew all about him and I was giddy to always talk about him.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 05:07 PM
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I am 5'6 and my husband is 6'2. Honestly I like it that he's tall because for one of the reasons you described: I feel like he can protect me since he's bigger than me. Additionally, I also like it that he towers over most men, makes him standout in a room full of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 02:57 PM
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It does wonders. I remember going out with a guy that I had impeccable chemistry with and was literally struggling waiting for sex with him and then he told me about his exes and the way he talked about them threw me off. I blocked him and I had a bit of a stalker for a few months afterwards.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 06:43 PM
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Just focus on making break ups less painful FOR YOU. I honestly suggest being the first one to break up since that has worked out for me. Especially if he's not very attractive and you are, you won't have any trouble finding a man🤷🏼‍♀️ EDIT: HE'S 5'8 AND DOESN'T WORKOUT??????
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 02:58 AM
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I completely agree with you. She's young and she even states she agrees with the Handbook but disagrees with a lot of the comments (I am assuming to the memes/screenshots). There is no need to be rude when a person is asking for thoughtful responses and I found it rather classless. I am glad you pointed it out
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy18/08/20 07:59 PM
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I feel like people only view it as such because they themselves don't care? I don't want to date a virgin or a guy that's slept with a thousand women. So if it matters for me, I feel like it's fair to expect the same
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy18/08/20 06:51 PM
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Literally never happens thankfully
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/20 06:50 PM
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Background: My husband and I were dating for a solid 10 months before he initiated the marriage talk and a few months later we got engaged. We tied the knot the first of this month. In the courtship phase, grand gestures were to me an ultimate sign of investment but now that we're married I have been enjoying the little things. We've been married for a short time but he has already shown: He's considerate of my time. He wakes up at 4am everyday to workout and tiptoes around the house so he won't…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy18/08/20 06:36 PM
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Mine told me at 6 months
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy18/08/20 06:10 PM
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I think refusing to answer makes it seem like the number is 200+ but I have casually declined to answer before and those relationships never really progressed because I am assuming the men always thought "worst case" scenario in their heads. It's part of their vetting, one of them said he just didn't want to be with someone that had slept around a lot because he didn't condone that sort of behavior (even for himself).
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy18/08/20 06:09 PM
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Because I don't see the point of sex if you're not gonna cum
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/20 06:06 PM
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I am gonna look at from a different angle. If you're already in an established relationship maybe it's okay to ask the number of people you've slept with. I always dated religious guys and they always asked at some point. If you don't want to answer don't; but I find it personally important that my partner's sexual history won't be a surprise down the line
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy18/08/20 05:51 PM
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Well I am glad I haven't met these "men."
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/20 05:38 PM
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The issue is it works on all men since it's less intentional. You can't claim the same for women
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/20 05:31 PM
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Dread game works on my husband because it's natural. If he did it to me I'd leave him🤷🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/20 05:27 PM
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I understand why the men on here don't like FDS although I may not agree with them. But I do believe the core strategy (which is not in the memes or the rants) is helpful for women. Their broad scale for an HVM is almost universal (basics being that a man with his shit together, that's also emotionally intelligent and takes care of his hygiene/grooms) will be more desired than the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/20 05:04 AM
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He's not compromising....so you are the one that needs to compromise? Throw the whole man away, I promise there is no shortage of men
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/20 04:22 AM
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Girl men can't be high maintenance dump him🤣 Unless he's the second coming of Jesus he seems too demanding
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/20 04:19 AM
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I think the best move is to try to have the sleepovers at your place🤷🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/20 04:17 AM
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Yeah otherwise it's a big inconvenience if you work no? You have to get a change of clothes and pack some of your skincare/ any productive you use.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/20 04:14 AM
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If you don't live together, I don't see the point of just sleeping next to each other, can someone explain that? Also with my husband back when we were dating, I only had sleepovers at his place when I wanted to get laid
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/20 04:11 AM
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You mean abort or like give birth and then kill the baby? Honestly I am married and I would probably have an abortion if I got pregnant right now. Having a child is a huge responsibility and if you're not ready, you're basically screwing over yourself and someone else's life at the same time
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/20 03:49 AM
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I do think the number of women in the workforce (career women) that get baby fever is low though. It's a bit of a taboo in my friend group while the men vaguely state "yeah I want a family someday"
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/20 03:42 AM
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Some do, some don't. I am in the latter category. If I have a kid, it'll be because I want my legacy to go on. As a career woman, I have seen way too many of my old colleagues get pregnant and all of a sudden bring up their kid in every sentence. They're annoying to be around and can't travel as much for work, they spend copious amounts of time reorganizing their schedule to not miss too much of their child's life. Yes I see the necessity, but it has always turned me off and scared me. tl; dr So…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/20 03:35 AM
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Great post! A firm believer in people levelling up and using the FDS philosophy to understand a subset of women. Whether an FDSer or not, no stable woman will turn down a guy with a good personality that also has the HVM traits commonly touted on there. The reality is that the men on here would rather gaslight women on their standards than attempt to meet them and end up in the top 10% as OP said it. Sadly, every time FDS is mentioned on this sub all the men start jerking each other off as to wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/20 03:26 AM
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What? There is a comma I was saying they do have an interest in it and I don't understand why people try to pretend they don't
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/20 02:30 AM
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No, attractive men have an interest in an LTR. Whoever thinks that hasn't met attractive men
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/20 02:16 AM
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Meredith literally asked a man to pick her 😭
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy18/08/20 01:11 AM
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I don't know who has been saying sleeping with every man you see is empowering because people are all over that shit😭 so proud of you OP for your resilience and set of values👏👏
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy17/08/20 10:39 PM
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Hooker🤣
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy17/08/20 08:48 PM
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Oddly enough, my dad had a HORRIBLE last name so when he got married to my mom he took her surname....and now I have it!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy17/08/20 08:46 PM
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This may be unpopular but I'll say it: This was an FWB and part of the rules of that arrangement is the no strings attached nature of it. You made several mistakes and one of them was believing that an FWB can have the same HV traits a boyfriend/husband or any LTR man. You first were thinking of marrying him yet you're just FWBs? OP I think you need to take a break from dating and clearly outline your values. Maybe Re-read the Handbook again and read a few of the recommended books
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy17/08/20 08:44 PM
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Wow I wanna be you when I grow up🥺👏
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 08:21 AM
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Doesn't that kinda make you feel bad?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 08:13 AM
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It's the Free Market. Some people wanna try their luck with people that have a higher SMV....if they can get those people why should they be limited to their looksmatch? For instance, if a man is 35 and balding but wants to shoot his shot with 22yr old women...why should he be limited to his own demographic and looksmatch? What if out of 1,000 22yr old women one swipes right on him? I think your suggestion is irrational and would mess up the free market
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 07:54 AM
3

The ratios are a bit messed up as well so men have more competition. Generally, your post doesn't specify who it's bad for but I don't think OLD itself is bad. It made setting up dates as easy as ordering pizza for some people
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 07:46 AM
2

If you have a terrible personality but look good... online dating is great. I also don't think it's nearly as straightforward as that. I had fun with OLD back when I was single because I could pick who I would interact with. Every match was my type so there was less ambiguity as to whether or not we physically found each other attractive. At a bar, I couldn't control who approached me. Some guys might be too short but I can't say that to them so I spend 15mins chatting with a man I have no inter…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 07:35 AM
-2

Oops a moment of silence for the girl that broke your heart
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 03:02 AM
0

What's your deal? So what people cheat and move onto other partners?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 02:55 AM
39

He's geniunely ugly....yet again proof that money doesn't buy class
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy17/08/20 01:21 AM
1

Yeah it wasn't an ONS fling
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 11:53 PM
-4

Nothing honestly, I just met someone I liked more and in that moment, I didn't care about him enough to not cheat. It's not his fault; I had control over my actions. I did break up with him shortly after so thankfully we didn't waste too much of each other's time
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 10:51 PM
5

Because I wanted to
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 09:57 PM
18

Sounds more like narcissism. The whole woe is me mindset isn't attractive nor high value. I have cheated before but I never acted like a victim nor blamed someone else for the reasons I cheated.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 09:14 PM
2

Most of that are people that are lurking on the FDS sub. I rarely see other FDSers on here actively engaging
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 06:34 PM
4

I am glad the Mods have decided to cut down on discussion about FDS. It's usually just a bunch of men jerking each other off and we don't have any FDSers to correct them or actively engage with them
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 06:29 PM
5

I love this response so much👐
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 06:06 PM
3

Depends if the guy is high libido.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 05:57 PM
1

It wasn't just in the comments but here is one: comment Random internet strangers calling me insecure for a preference
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 05:19 PM
1

Only people that have something to hide care about people looking through their phones
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 05:02 PM
3

I can't be really into someone that doesn't meet my standards but generally if casually is monthly and he only does it because he's single, maybe. I don't believe in giving men I am not invested in an ultimatum so none of that. My husband has plenty of videos/pictures of us if he needs content and our sex life is active
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 04:52 PM
2

Because men won't be honest...even if I ask a porn addict how he feels about porn, he'll downplay it if he knows it might jeopardize my attraction to him
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 04:23 PM
10

I am against porn usage in a relationship and I initially developed that stance in my early 20s during one of my first relationships. He set the bar for healthy behavior and he was vehemently against porn consumption in our relationship. Afterwards it just became one of my standards for a relationship. Internet strangers will gaslight me (take a look at the responses in the thread you linked) but when I was dating IRL I never came out and told men I was against it until I was vetting them to bec…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 04:16 PM
1

My husband cried because of the movie Up and I found it endearing. He cried (tears of joy) when one of his favorite teams won a big game. Ultimately those type of scenarios don't diminish his value in my eyes. Crying as a woe is me or self pity would, crying out of frustration instead of trying to solve his problem would turn me off as well. It's all because I'd like to think he'd protect me if the need arises, how can I trust him to do that if he cries over everything?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 07:52 AM
1

Yeah
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 05:59 AM
1

When I was single, the status quo benefitted me 🤷🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 05:54 AM
39

I always found it gauche that people said "if you're x swipe left" because it's not a problem as long as you don't match with them😂
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy16/08/20 03:46 AM
9

Honestly this seems to be an LVM issue. My husband has a lot of HVM single male friends and they're mostly in their 30s; they are some of the most commitment oriented men. They actively seek out dating and don't just wait around and I have set them up with a few friends of mine too. One of them got engaged after 6 months and are waiting to get married in 2021. Ultimately, if you're looking for commitment, don't mess around with the men in their 30s that somehow think they're God's gift to mankin…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy16/08/20 01:53 AM
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I am so confused. He identifies as black....and doesn't want to date women that look like him? What does that say about his self image?
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy16/08/20 01:49 AM
11

Yeah I have never gotten along with Hispanic men Indian men (most) although I dated a mixed one that was more Americanized than most. My current husband is French and thankfully he doesn't fit your description
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy16/08/20 01:46 AM
40

How to become a pickmeisha: A guide on how to be seen and never heard
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy15/08/20 06:26 PM
4

Sheeesh I just discovered r/breakingmom and I am SHOCKED
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy15/08/20 03:25 AM
2

Who hurt you👀
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/20 02:13 AM
1

If you say so🤷🏼‍♀️ Of those participants researched, 50 percent of women had one to three FWBs, compared to only 41 percent of men. When it came to having four to six FWBs, again women had more at 12 percent, while only nine percent of guys had had that amount. Article. Ultimately Pickmeishas are not the envy of women in the FSM mainly because they have to do more to get the same level of commitment someone like me got while not getting as high quality of a partner hence the no envy bit
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/20 02:02 AM
2

Pickmeishas DO. That's the whole point. No one cares if a woman treats the man of her dreams like he's the second coming of Jesus but when she does that with FWBs and also actively tries to cool-girl to please men that's when she's a pickmeisha. I don't know where the notion that pickmeishas have good relationships that other women would be jealous of came from. I have yet to see one that I envy
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/20 01:55 AM
1

They usually don't know they're a pickmeisha. Go through social media and look at a man say something obviously wrong/controversial/only beneficial to one party and all the women reenforcing that idea/practice probably qualify as a pickmeisha. Have fun!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/20 01:53 AM
2

This is so true! Especially when they give you the whole "all men cheat because you're not giving him enough sex so start having sex as many times as possible" chat
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/20 01:49 AM
4

Pickmeishas can maintain a relationship but that's not the goal for women. We don't want just a relationship with just any man
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/20 01:37 AM
5

Men's advice leads women to become a pickmeisha
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/20 01:32 AM
8

I sometimes wonder if I am living in an alternate universe where everyone is normal. I have never come across this sort of behavior.... wtf why is she staying 😭
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/08/20 10:21 PM
5

This can't be real....right?? Someone restore my faith in humanity 😭😭
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/08/20 10:18 PM
2

He worked for a former client and that's how he got my number. Never needed to block him because I made my disinterest clear. I think he heard from some of my colleagues that I recently got married and wanted to tell me about his dream🙄
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/08/20 07:53 PM
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1) Financial Independence: This is imo the most important thing to establish, you don't need a six figure salary. You need to be able to financially support yourself and if you can't, change your lifestyle to match your means. When a woman enters into a relationship unable to support herself, she's likely to stay outta necessity. You simply can't walk away from an LVM with a little bit of money if you don't have your own money . Even now my husband and I have a "Ours, Mine, Yours" system for our…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/08/20 01:17 PM
2

Please let's not solve this👐
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 12:53 PM
5

He's more entitled. But you have been seeing these red flags for a long time and it seems as though you didn't address them right away. Simply put, if you're gonna give head...the man should return the favor if you also like receiving it. You should have a discussion with him if you're sure it's out of character for him but I certainly think it's easier to throw away the whole man 🤷🏼‍♀️
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/08/20 12:48 PM
5

Most people know their weight & height after that BMI is just a Google search away
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 05:52 AM
3

I absolutely think this would be so beneficial for men. Yes women have the ability to filter by height on some apps (Bumble and OkCupid) and I occasionally got the whole "what's your weight?" Question after asking men their height back when I was single. This would be just another category that people get to filter by. Yes some people would be discriminated against but honestly I don't think anyone should change/hide their preferences because it's offensive to SOME people 🤷🏼‍♀️ tl;dr If I can pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 05:46 AM
12

I did👐 I am assuming he calls every woman that turns him down that
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/08/20 04:26 AM
56

Funny thing is I usually suck at comebacks but I was so perplexed by this man's logic 😭 He's not my type AT ALL and I have told him countless times he's not....yet he still believes we would have had sex Just proves to me that men have a strange ability to believe whatever they want...no matter how much the outside world disproves their beliefs.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/08/20 04:26 AM
4

If I didn't have trouble finding an HVM, Tomi won't. She'll get a new man by the end of next year at the latest if she's actually trying 🤷🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 04:24 AM
3

Men that only wanna date younger women aren't the problem.... it's when they are grooming or preying upon younger women. A man in his 50s has experienced more of life than a 21 year old girl. It's a problem when that man is attempting to treat her as less than him, making her solely dependent on him, and he is benefitting from that relationship more than she is.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 12:37 AM
3

When someone loves you, they'll do almost anything for you. The concept made sense in theory but to see a man that does whatever is possible to make you happy and is always emotionally there for you was amazing. I learned I had a toxic mentality that I am still trying to get rid of but he set the bar so high for every other man after him
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 12:31 AM
14

I always assumed the wall that RP references is less about a 10/10 becoming a 6/10 at 30 and more about the limited window of fertility that women have. The issue with even that definition is that a lot of women can have children well into their 40s....risk do increase though 🤷🏼‍♀️ My looks are well intact despite being 31. Staying fit and adjusting your lifestyle to take care of your body helps
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/20 11:33 PM
33

Asking out is way less formal and women do it as well Splitting the bill is commonplace Dates are hangouts and less planning or heads up is needed. A guy can take you out to the park to play a sport together or take you hiking on a shorter notice Dating multiple people isn't as common so the exclusivity talk is assumed in some places. Just my observations from having a job where I travel a lot and being married to a European while being one myself. So some of the signs a guy is an HVM might need…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy13/08/20 09:49 PM
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I cannot stress how important reading books has been in my life. There was a brief period where I stopped and now my husband and I pick out books together and it's been great. Love this list👏👏
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy13/08/20 09:46 PM
26

I was born there but I don't live there anymore. However, I definitely agree some of the FDS rules for HV dating traits / qualities are very American centric. Just as with anything, I do believe you should adjust everything to reflect your own values and traits you want in a partner
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy13/08/20 07:11 PM
7

Oh sorry yes they do! Thankfully I grew up in the States but my relatives live there and I see how different the dating norms are
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy13/08/20 06:49 PM
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Don't be afraid to offend them🤷🏼‍♀️ I was dating a guy for a few months and then we had sex...he was probably 5.5in hard and did not know what the hell he was doing. I stopped in the middle of sex and literally said to to him "how are you 28 and still can't use your dick?" Yes he was hurt. He got his act together the next time though. Protecting a man's ego is papering over the cracks in their performance
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy13/08/20 06:32 PM
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I am Swedish and lemme tell ya...most women there cringe if you even mention not splitting the bill. Definitely are cultural differences. Dating norms vary by region but as long as someone puts thought into the date and it ends up being a high quality experience, we can all agree on it being HV🤷🏼‍♀️
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy13/08/20 06:28 PM
13

The double standard is REAL. I always expected this behavior from men but rarely women. A former friend of mine met my husband (then boyfriend) and she knew he worked in IB and earned more than me. This woman goes on a lecture about how men that are high earners will cheat, lie, and treat me worse because they won't appreciate me...so I should have dated a guy that made less than me so he could respect me LOL. These LVMs have pickmeishas subscribing to their line of thinking as well
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy13/08/20 02:17 PM
12

It means you should not waste hours on him lol You don't have to block him if you have the self control to not pick up his calls but definitely no more hours of chatting with a man that doesn't wanna date you
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/08/20 09:23 PM
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Age: 31 Physical 6ft+ Runner's build preferably (overall fit) Clean shaven or 5 o'clock shadow Attractive Dark hair Career I am pretty successful in my field so I ask for the same as well as: Income in the six figure range Mid to upper level management A respectable industry Values/Character Religious, preferably of a Christian denomination Smart Fun to be around Considerate Affectionate Receptive Charming Social/extroverted Dependable Deal breakers - Being bald - Unambitious - Overweight - Intr…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/08/20 01:45 PM
4

If a scrawny guy does it, I doubt it would be hot. But if a guy is muscular, it would definitely be hot
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/20 08:48 AM
1

I've already successfully done so in my marriage and past relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 09:06 PM
2

The whole point of high standards is to disqualify the incompatible men
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 06:41 PM
4

If you say so🤷🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 06:40 PM
2

When my husband asks, I give it to him
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 06:14 PM
8

I haven't gotten any plastic surgery and I think I am better looking than the average woman on pornstar. Simply put, if a man is okay with watching porn in a relationship that means it should be okay for me to watch it as well. If a man truly loves me...he doesn't want me seeing other men naked🤷🏼‍♀️ so it goes both ways. And any time he needs to have sex, he's with me so he can. But sure let's pretend it's insecurity for the sake of convenience
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 03:25 PM
2

Imagination would be preferable. I don't see the need for my guy to have to watch another woman naked for him to masturbate
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 03:12 PM
2

....people do that? What's the appeal?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 02:55 PM
3

Less about insecurity for me and more about not seeing a need for it when in a relationship you can ask your partner to have sex whenever
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 02:55 PM
1

I agree we have multiple soulmates. But I also subscribe to the line of thinking that we'll only meet a handful of them as a result of our circumstances
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 02:54 PM
29

Early stages of dating red flags stick around. They don't disappear, they just morph into something worse. LEAVE while it's early and your time isn't wasted
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy11/08/20 02:36 PM
2

If she views unfavourably...there won't be a relationship 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 02:35 PM
1

If the girl of your dreams went out on a date with you....would you risk anything that would give her a bad impression of you?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 02:32 PM
4

If you want to 100% have a good an impression on the girl...the man should pay. Still a large amount of women look at men that don't pay unfavorably and it's better to be on the safer side of that stat🤷🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 02:19 PM
17

I actually wouldn't date someone that watches porn in a relationship. I think it's disrespectful and completely unnecessary, same thing for other forms of porn such as OnlyFans (I think that's even more pathetic imo).
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 02:18 PM
8

Rule of thumb as far as socializing has been following local health department guidelines. Are the restaurants near you open? Has everything basically reopened? Is he coming from a hotspot (i.e particularly hard-hit county)? I definitely think if you both act responsibly and it's safe in your area to go out there shouldn't be an issue. Make sure you ask him how often he's been going out because he could be an asymptomatic carrier.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy11/08/20 03:22 AM
12

Can you support yourself? If you can, I wouldn't ask him. I can't imagine there's a way to ask a man for money without sounding a bit off.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy11/08/20 03:09 AM
1

She didn't follow the rules sadly. She got married before the book came out and discovered it too late. Anyways, in the comment in which I referenced her I stated she found a better man so🤷🏼‍♀️ and younger doesn't always mean less money, she doesn't work and he supports her. I also stated he was an upgrade so.... Next time please try to use other anecdotal experiences other than that of someone else's you know nothing of. If you got the facts all right somehow I would have been impressed but ske…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 03:07 AM
19

HV ≠ rich man. Do you have a rich guy that's trying to date you?
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy11/08/20 02:39 AM
0

Further proof since you got lazy with trying to expose me🤣 https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/hfa3p6/fds_approach_is_a_recipe_for_failure_not_success/fvy2tq8?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/hgw2ox/trp_and_fds_might_be_effective_but_it_wont_make/fw6nwlj?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/hr2sg1/q4all_where_did_you_get_your_beliefs/fy1mi3g?utm_medium=android_app&utm_so…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 02:29 AM
1

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rules A 90s bestseller. If you read that book, you get 99% of what FDS is about. If you follow that book....you followed FDS. I was excited to join and see other people discussing a lot of the values the book preaches. Check your facts next time
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 02:25 AM
2

I am actually getting better at not judging people for this. I used to think women that married down economically were weird but now I've realized some of them genuinely don't care about money. A foreign yet common sentiment amongst a lot of career women when it comes to marriage. It's emasculating depending on the social circle and if other people know. Most of the time, men will not tell their friends their wife makes more
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 02:23 AM
1

I am already married but thank you👏
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 02:15 AM
1

Are you dumb? Read my past comments I joined Reddit 3 months ago as a result of a friend sending me a post from FDS. I read the Rules book at a young age and guess what.....FDS is literally everything the book tells you to do. So yes I followed FDS since reading the Rules book (written in the 90s). If you read far enough into my comment history, you would see I commented that I discovered FDS via reading the book in my teens. Then if you do a little bit more research, you'll know that 99% of FDS…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 02:14 AM
1

You don't think there are high value men that don't want kids or who are indifferent? Also I don't do casual sleeping around. All my boyfriends met my standards however high or low they may be
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 12:35 AM
7

It's always hard letting go off the ones that don't explicitly do anything wrong. One of my ex fiances was an ideal match for me...he just didn't fit into my life. He wanted different things than I did and breaking up with him was a mature move. I am so happy you understand that great guys can be the wrong guy for you💕 Life is so short that if you're not on the same page as your partner, it's a disservice to yourselves to keep the relationship going.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy11/08/20 12:17 AM
2

Not really
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/20 07:17 PM
6

Well...yeah are you ugly? That's obviously a deal breaker for everyone
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/20 07:04 PM
1

Well depends, does he plan on keeping the beard? If so, I'll pass and go on. That's just a physical preference, I can't find a man with a beard attractive. A good partner is all about compatibility and I can't be compatible with and share my life with a man that doesn't have the means to travel like I do (hence need for a higher salary). People divorce because of money a lot...so same foundation is important.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/20 06:54 PM
3

100k+ = six figures. I don't really care about dick size as long as he knows how to please a woman
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/20 06:18 PM
2

....six pack but nice one💀
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/20 06:14 PM
1

They wouldn't because they're benefitting from my lack of interest in men that don't meet my standards
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/20 06:10 PM
1

I asked for everything I bring to the table. Men either have to match it or surpass it (except for the height one).
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/20 06:09 PM
1

A lot of it just wanting some of the things I bring to the table. Other than the height requirement, I check all my own boxes. So why shouldn't I aim for the same or better?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/20 06:07 PM
1

Me too! I absolutely think narrowing down the pool helps a person get compatible quality partners
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/20 05:56 PM
1

I subscribe to the three 6s - 6ft+ -100k+ (100k would be kinda low for a guy in his 30s imo) - Fit whether that's a six pack or not Homeowner Full head of hair, preferably dark Clean shaven or 5 o'clock shadow No piercings Good upbringing Not an atheist College grad preferably has higher education beyond that I probably have a few more deal breakers I am not actively thinking about at the moment 🤷🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/20 05:48 PM
0

I was just trying to say that it's not a majority of women. Both men and women who fall short in many categories themselves will demand someone of a higher caliber. Human delusion 🤷🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/20 05:37 PM
8

I may fall into the category of women with crazy high standards to most PPD men. To be completely honest, the only men that ever complain are the ones that can't/wouldn't able to date me because of them. No man I have ever dated has sat down and said to me "you have CRAZY high standards."
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/20 05:35 PM
2

You can replace outta shape women with outta shape men and say the same thing
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/20 05:34 PM
1

Income matters because it helps you gain assets. Without my income, I wouldn't have a real estate & stock investment portfolio. Although that means I only date people that have the same income or close to it. Bilingual is a big deal in the States when you're outside the first gen immigrant circles.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/20 02:25 PM
4

Fit and attractive... probably a 8/10 Successful white collar career Homeowner and real estate investor Intelligent (on paper at least) Talented athletically (tennis, golf, volleyball) Honest: unlike most people I don't lie about the little things to cover up the cracks in your character. Bilingual Socially extroverted: I can get along with almost everyone I've come across Most importantly....I have a pussy💀
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/20 11:50 PM
9

I think this is hella petty but we all have standards. I have them on because I don't see why I would turn them off
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy09/08/20 08:51 PM
23

No 40 year old man prioritizes his friends over a potential long term relationship. He's too old he should know better 🤷🏼‍♀️ Good job on blocking and moving on but don't give men so many chances next time. The first 3-6 months of a relationship are the foundations for everything else, if he blows you off that early on, he'll blow you off after year 2 as well.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy09/08/20 07:50 PM
20

I took myself out to a fancy restaurant to celebrate a big performance bonus. He was at a different table with a few clients and he came over. Asked to sit with me briefly and ordered me dessert so he could talk to me more. Followed FDS throughout the courting phase!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy09/08/20 08:00 AM
44

Literally met my husband while I was taking myself out👐👐
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy08/08/20 11:25 PM
4

Ouch this one must hit close to home for you No need to hate on people for being honest 🤷🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/20 09:36 PM
5

Um leagues exist. I don't want to date men that I know I am out of their league. Leagues are like tiers of attractiveness so naturally i get offended when a guy that's significantly below my league approaches me.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/20 09:10 PM
2

You forgot the Abundance Mentality is also a core FDS sentiment. You're not losing the 6 months first of all, probably a Max of 3 months if you follow the Handbook. Additionally, most men won't get exclusive until sex so you should be vetting multiple men. So If one man leaves you, you should have 4-5 others that are going through the vetting process at that time.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/20 05:23 PM
4

Western college educated UMC FDSer checking in🙋🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/20 05:21 PM
3

That price is too high
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/20 05:19 PM
7

What are women paying? I never paid for dick.... is time the payment?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/20 05:08 PM
1

I hope it all turns out well for you! Good luck!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy08/08/20 06:26 AM
14

He's not even an LVM... he's an NVM. Ask yourself some difficult questions OP; what is this man offering you that you can't find in another one? How many more years are you willing to waste on him? By keeping this man around and not blocking him, you're unintentionally giving up the chance to meet an HVM. You have to get rid of Mr. Wrong before you can meet Mr. Right. You have already acknowledged he's not the one for you, so how many more years are you willing to postpone your own happiness for…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy08/08/20 06:26 AM
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A few years ago I was in a similar spot. I am guessing you're an extrovert and need human contact rather than male company really. I'd suggest picking up some hobbies that are group activities after the pandemic. You have to learn to be happy to do things for yourself by yourself, it doesn't have to be 24/7 but understand that other people are temporary company. So any sudden urges you end up having (i.e going out to dinner, vacation, movies) do them in the meantime. You can't sit by and wait fo…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy08/08/20 06:21 AM
6

Please don't involve yourself further. I am assuming this man has nudes of you; you're too young to be a victim of revenge porn. As much as it would be the right thing to do for the girlfriend's sake, your well being should be the priority. I think you got attached to the attention you got from him. Stop all contact with this man (ghost him) and read the Handbook. P. S you're not creepy for finding out he was lying to you. HE'S CREEPY. You need to change your mindset and not blame yourself for m…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy08/08/20 06:14 AM
2

So does sex make the connection easier to spot?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/20 05:41 AM
15

I'd like to consider myself attractive and in a way dating is pretty straightforward but not in the manner you described it. If a guy approaches me and he's my type, I'll allow him to take me out. Then the emotional chemistry has to be spot on and the connection has to grow for sex to come. I don't sleep with men before we discuss entering a relationship with one another. So I might have been on hundreds of dates but I have only slept with the ones that made it to a relationship. Dating can be r…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/20 05:36 AM
10

Whenever ugly men start showing unfavorable personality traits I literally just say: "Sorry you're not enough to be this fucked up" and move on.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy08/08/20 03:05 AM
6

I don't know who said dick is special....can we all reprimand whoever spread that rumor? It really isn't that special 🤷🏼‍♀️
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy08/08/20 02:55 AM
28

I usually like waxing but the pandemic gave me much needed reprieve from that. My husband is french and really doesn't care if I have a little bit of hair anywhere 🔥
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy08/08/20 02:49 AM
1

My 30s are currently the best decade of my life. I think life is over when you can't painlessly do the things you once enjoyed in your peak years. I am only 31 and I have already met a life partner, excelled in my field and have a BMI of 18.2. So whenever I can't do the things I enjoy like work, golf, and running life will be essentially over. So I'll probably flatline in my 60s😭
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/20 02:35 AM
3

Well good thing she doesn't live in Sweden. I am Swedish and her features are above average even for us
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/20 12:14 AM
3

If I found one, she'll find one🤷🏼‍♀️ Reddit acts like being tall or good looking automatically disqualifies you from being successful
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/20 12:04 AM
2

What makes you say that? All the outlets are hinting that she broke it off
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/20 06:22 PM
7

Yeah her fiance is like a 6.5/10 at most
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/20 06:17 PM
3

I thought she had some good points in her video actually. I am not sure whether women's standards are too high or the men are just trash. Geniunely curious on that front
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/20 06:08 PM
1

Prior to the establishment of a relationship ( the talk) I think it's really important for both men and women to keep their options open. I was replying to the other comment and agreeing that FDS does teach women to not get too attached early on.... something a lot of women struggle with. They go on a good date and get stuck on that man although they're not exclusive
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/20 05:50 PM
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I completely understand this! At the end of the day, FDS is a community by women for women to level up, naturally that won't look the same for everyone. Your standards I think should reflect whatever you prioritize in life. For me, I prioritize my job and my health so naturally I'd want a man with a stable job and is fit. Wherever you are in life when you decide to date, be conscious of your priorities and seek that out in a partner. We can't all have the same journey or the same standards but w…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy07/08/20 04:57 PM
2

I already said what makes HVM is dependent on the woman. Plenty of men go to trade school and make more than college grads. Men go into the military and have better beenfits than college grads College ≠ high earning potential. I stated FDS women all have different standards for HVM already....so? Yes money matters but the extent is a variable. Can a woman that's making 80k settle for a guy that's making 60k? YES and FDS doesn't say otherwise. Move along now
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/20 04:46 PM
2

Lol if you say so🤷🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/20 04:41 PM
3

Don't be delusional, no one on FDS cares what the average man thinks.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/20 04:36 PM
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This came up in a discussion about engagement rings. This one girl was like "he can buy me one that's under $100 and I'll just be happy" and then in the same breath told me he spent thousands of dollars on video games LOL It's insane to me that people rationalize that sort of behavior as something normal and act all "holier than thou"
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy07/08/20 03:26 PM
5

Keep it vague for the same reason FDS recommends to not tell men about the 90 day rule: Men will pretend to be whatever you want to get into your pants. They'll fake their way into your bed so never give them clear executable responses detailing all the shit you hate 😂
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy07/08/20 02:03 PM
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I don't know enough about Meg but Cardi B is definitely a pickmeisha in disguise. She stayed with a man that cheated on her and I just can't see that being someone FDSers should look up to. Heck I don't cook or clean and I have a husband 😭 it's just saying no to the traditional gender roles
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy07/08/20 05:24 AM
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I dug a little and found that thread. It's amazing how they try to use 30 different words to say you got pumped & dumped and this is how you can avoid it next time. He feigned interest-> got laid. 10/10 experience for him and she's left picking up her self esteem. Geeez
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy07/08/20 05:08 AM
21

This was a WILD read. Like am I crazy or is the rest of Reddit crazy for normalizing this behavior 😭
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy07/08/20 02:04 AM
1

This is terrible and I am absolutely happy I just got married. I don't want to dedicate any time to someone I am not attracted to on OLD
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/20 01:01 AM
4

Yes how you carry yourself matters. Also water is wet
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/20 12:46 AM
1

I literally had a picnic with a friend for $35. We made homemade sandwiches and had lemonade and fruits to drink but sure you can have a fancy one for $200-300
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/20 12:40 AM
11

Definitely, FDS worked way too well in keeping me emotionally detached early on in relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/20 12:38 AM
3

LOL okay the weird bragging about your girlfriend is putting this discussion off. No one cares how attractive she is. When FDS discusses the investment in the early stages of the relationship, it's not about wining and dining. It's about THOUGHTFUL dates. A walk in the park costs $0 and isn't thoughtful....a picnic in the park may cost you $20-30 but is incredibly thoughtful. If you want to continue arguing about basic FDS principles, try actually reading the sub's recommended posts and frequent…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/20 12:37 AM
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What many of PPDers don't understand because they just read the FDS handbook and don't dig deeper is that FDS is based of works of literature that all had the same fundamental sentiment touted: "A man will do anything for his ideal woman" and with that in mind, FDS tells women to have Queen energy ( improve upon their aura, appearance, mental health) which in the process will make them the ideal woman for certain HVMs. If the woman of a man's dreams said she didn't wanna have sex on the first da…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/20 12:26 AM
3

The thing is your making it seem as though what is HVM is the same across the board.... it's not. Money is important only if you make it important. Personally, I make more than most men will ever make and I made a choice to not date any man that makes less than me...I still have found a quality man that fits my criteria for HVM. All women don't want the same things. The main idea behind FDS and it can be clearly derived when one reads the recommended reading ( The Rules Book from the 1990s) is t…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/20 12:24 AM
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I respectfully disagree and unless you can link me to these posts I am not sure how much credibility your ratings of FDS women have. Glad you found someone but I respectfully disagree with your point regarding desperate men falling for women that use FDS.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/20 12:04 AM
3

I am not looking for anyone. I already found someone in the same financial situation as me and maybe slightly better
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/20 11:40 PM
10

Thank you for being objective and I appreciate your input
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/20 11:30 PM
2

When people make unsubstantiated claims... that's how you know they're unable to respond to a valid point. You may have money, but claiming FDSers are all in debt and dubbing them all gold diggers is incorrect. However, I understand some people need to cope and falsehoods are great for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/20 11:29 PM
1

That would be true if FDS wasn't about dangling sex and pulling it away The Handbook has a timeline for sex. It's not change the day you're gonna have sex after every date sorta thing. They recommend 90 days and urge women to adjust it depending on how the vetting is going. In my case, after a couple of months I had gotten to know my partner and had sex with him. Additionally, FDS has countless posts about women gaining wealth and financial stability. They rarely encourage going solely for the t…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/20 11:24 PM
2

Wow so cool that you have seen all the women on r/femaledatingstrategy!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/20 11:14 PM
0

Make him behave the way you want FDS highlights one thing....a man will never do anything he doesn't want to. So no it doesn't tell women how to make men do certain things. FDS preaches being all about yourself to hinder women from chasing men. That's already something that happened in the 50s. Women didn't chase men, women didn't pay half, women didn't ask men out. It was a given that a man had to do 90% of the work in the courting phase
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/20 11:14 PM
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It worked for me but the post isn't about effectiveness. It makes a claim that TRP & FDS only work on broken men & women. I was disagreeing with that claim being applied to FDS
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/20 10:57 PM
2

This is like arguing with a piece of bread. I'll move on
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/20 10:10 PM
6

The issue is FDS was the staple for relationships for so long that all you have to do is look at how many men were conforming to them in the past to see that NORMAL HVM men CAN & WILL invest in a woman first if they deem her worthy. Your argument would be valid if it weren't for the assumption that the men FDS attracts are broken.... because that means several generations of women have overwhelmingly somehow married broken men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/20 10:04 PM
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....they do want to get married to men that invest in them. FDS encourages women to settle down with an HVM if he passes their vetting so yes the man is getting rewarded with a wife (or a girlfriend that's wife material).
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/20 09:57 PM
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Alright let's continue with that notion. Since FDS fundamentals are old fashioned dating norms that have been removed from society as a result of modern feminism and the sexual liberation....did the men that women attracted with these strategies in the past (60s-70s) ALL damaged and insecure? The dating norm was set to solely execute FDS for most women or be socially shunned. Saying all the men that are okay with chasing a worthwhile partner, paying on the first date are broken is inherently fal…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/20 09:53 PM
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So if FDS doesn't work, what do you think women were doing prior to the sexual liberation? Do you think they were chasing husband's? Giving sex out on the first date?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/20 09:46 PM
9

Men have successfully made the female orgasm an anomaly to protect themselves from any accountability👏
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/20 08:52 PM
6

Nope I take responsibility for my orgasm but that doesn't excuse men that don't want to actively do everything in their power to make me cum.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/20 08:41 PM
2

Probably not
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/20 07:36 PM
6

Lol I wish that was true. It takes work but I have to cum for me to consider sex remotely even good
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/20 07:35 PM
4

I don't see the point of sex if I am not gonna cum
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/20 07:34 PM
11

Interesting. I am a woman and I can't imagine enjoying sex without an O
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/20 05:18 PM
10

What's pleasurable about sex without an orgasm?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/20 05:13 PM
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I cannot imagine going back in bed with a man that can't make me orgasm 95% of the time AT LEAST. So yes, men should figure out how to make women cum so that they can get her to come back for more. Additionally, women need to stop faking orgasms. I always used to tell a man when I didn't cum so that they can improve rather than protecting their ego
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/20 05:09 PM
8

This is some bullshit toxic people throw around 😂 My husband and I have only had 2-3 arguments. He never raises his voice and we just talk like real adults whenever we're upset
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy06/08/20 04:29 PM
3

I usually just say my height and then ask theirs. Men usually don't make a big deal out of it if they're self confident
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy06/08/20 04:26 PM
43

EASIEST way to figure out if the guy is complete garbage on OLD is to ask about his ex. Simply say something along the lines of "when was your last relationship?" And if he somehow acts like she's the craziest person and puts her down-> unmatch and pat yourself on the back 2) Ask about where they see themselves in a few years...if you get a super vague answer or "just going with the flow" -> unmatch 3) If he constantly says you're pretty and never comments on anything not physical about you that…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy06/08/20 04:25 PM
39

All those tears wasted over an LVM😭
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy06/08/20 04:21 PM
2

I actually agree with this overall but I don't think everyone treats it as an audition. I personally always understood that boyfriends were easily replaceable and rarely gave them 100% of myself so therefore I wasn't vetting for a husband. Although the risk free nature of it does mean people are all trying someone on until something sticks
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/20 04:17 PM
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I agree with the other poster, people should own being shallow. I don't even flinch when men call me shallow.... because rarely do men that meet my standards complain about it. It's always the guy that's 5 inches too short and 60lbs too heavy
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/20 03:19 PM
1

I hate some of the bullshit my female friends tell men. Geniunely unattractive men are told "just be yourself" while I try to tell them they either need to get rich or get in good shape to get a chance with attractive women
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/20 02:51 PM
1

It would confuse the hell out of me....my personality isn't THAT good
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/20 11:00 AM
8

I actually read the book The Rules when I was 16 so I always had the foundations of FDS. But honestly the moment I realized "huh this actually works" is when a guy I let chase me finally got a chance to take me out. The man literally told me after the date he was so caught off guard by me not acknowledging him for months.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy05/08/20 06:28 AM
3

Just limit your swiping. I used to get bombarded on the apps as well and I usually just swiped on 4-5 guys a day and kept those convos going. Men can only message you when you swipe on them....so stop swiping on 100+ men😂
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy05/08/20 06:21 AM
3

He's LVM....you should be done with this man.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy05/08/20 06:20 AM
3

Time is so precious, an online situationship is not the way to lose your time. You need to read the handbook and date normally, don't settle for a situationship with a man you have to confront to give you some attention
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy05/08/20 06:17 AM
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Condescending is the BIGGEST LVM trait. I don't care if a man is the second coming of Jesus...if he mansplains to you and is condescending he's LV.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy05/08/20 06:15 AM
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Idk where people are getting that sex is mandatory on the first date. You don't have to ACTIVELY try not to have sex on the first date.... just don't do it Have a normal conversation with him, don't overshare about your life or your situationship. Also try dating other men as well, don't get too attached after the first date.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy05/08/20 06:13 AM
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You can't get the guy to do anything he doesn't want to do. There are men that ask women out after 3hrs matched on Tinder/Hinge because they are attracted and want to meet you.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy05/08/20 04:48 AM
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Lol it's not. My husband stopped going to strip clubs and goes out to normal places without half naked women😂
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy05/08/20 04:47 AM
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NYC is notorious for having way more single straight women than men. It has a lot to do with the high concentration of gay men messing up the ratios in the heterosexual dating market. Some cities in the East Coast have better ratios such as ATL, New Orleans, Charlotte etc. I know Seattle and SF are the most male leaning West Coast cities
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy05/08/20 04:45 AM
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HVM behavior for sure but continue vetting him. If you feel chemistry with him, it's okay to kiss and hold hands. Edit: As per the other comment, yes DON'T initiate. But let him kiss you if you're feeling chemistry
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/08/20 11:41 PM
9

Not a paywall, but a registration one. Thank you!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy01/08/20 08:57 PM
13

Can you comment the entire post? It's behind a paywall
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy01/08/20 08:43 PM
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She put quotes around it. She meant an HVM at first glance but an LV user after vetting
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy01/08/20 04:41 AM
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They just weren't attentive enough and weren't as intellectual as I prefer my men to be. As far as your second point, I can't speak for all women but I think I've landed at my ideal mate with my current fiance
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 11:46 PM
2

No I wouldn't have broken up with them if they were😂
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 11:19 PM
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No I am with my dream guy and can't imagine anyone else to be a better match. When you're open to branch swinging, you're not with your ideal mate.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 11:15 PM
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The few times I have done this I solely ended the relationship because I saw the flaws in my current partner as a result of meeting another man. When you find a guy that calls you more, takes you out more and treats you better, it's a no brainer your current relationship isn't worth it. Although I don't advise branch swinging to a man that's not significantly better than your current one
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 11:03 PM
1

You can't get taller but you can become skinnier. Although I still think no one should be shamed for having either. I have a height preference...some men have a weight preference. A preference is a preference 🤷🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 10:55 PM
1

To an extent I agree. Male attractiveness is a package; while female attractiveness to men is pretty straightforward. A man can be ugly in hindsight and become attractive because of personality, wealth, social status etc. Yes women are harsher judges or pure looks
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 05:21 AM
2

Here's the thing: Starfish sex is not good and since women's sexuality is reactionary, the relationship sucks. I have never attempted starfish sex because I don't have sex with someone when I am not secure, happy, and turned on by them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 05:19 AM
5

Again....try your revenge fantasy on someone else
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 02:34 AM
2

Unpicked? I already have a man honey and I am helping other women find HVM on FDS Go try your revenge fantasy on someone else🤷🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 02:33 AM
1

....TRP doesn't compare women to cars??!??!? Move along please
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 02:10 AM
8

Send a link to these lonely rich men
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 02:07 AM
23

Finally someone said it
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 02:07 AM
1

If you're driving a Toyota and a Ferrari lands in your garage, you're not gonna swap? Hypergamy is about chosing the best for yourself; women shouldn't pick a loser and stay with him when a winner arrives
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 02:05 AM
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You can name call all you. I picked him because I think he's the most valuable man; if I didn't think so why would I be with him? Go shame someone that cares
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 02:01 AM
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I am not sure if it decreases with SMV. Plenty of my friends are divorcing and already have boyfriends that are more promising than their former husband's. All women on the 30+ range as well but not single mothers. Although I don't understand why it's controversial. If I found my fiance to be less valuable than a man that's actively pursuing me, isn't it common sense i'd leave him? Shouldn't everyone try to get with the most valuable person they can?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 01:41 AM
2

Yes I mind, that's not attractive and I like knowing he'd protect me if the need arose
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 01:20 PM
2

Body Count 10-15 if not counting receiving oral Female / 31 LTR: 3-4 (defined as relationships lasting in excess of one year) / ONS: 2 Extrovert Satisfaction 10/10. I am really happy with how well I vetted people in my life and who I ended up with. Sexually I did enough exploring while staying safe and not hooking up randomly too much🤷🏼‍♀️. Higher in disagreeableness...in part because I am high maint but I stay away from people that can't handle me.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 04:15 AM
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Body. A guy's body is a reflection of what the hell he puts in it and how hard he is willing to work to reach peak physical fitness
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/20 11:02 PM
8

I am so proud 🥳
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy24/07/20 05:50 PM
8

I geniunely wouldn't care. Women misinterpret things all the time and assuming this woman isn't someone you'll be stuck having to see at work/friend's circle, I wouldn't care about her calling me an asshole. In the scenario you described, you had good intentions and not everyone can be convinced of it. So ghosting her would be my move🤷🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/20 02:20 PM
1

u/vredditdownloader
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy23/07/20 07:27 PM
2

Yes please do!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy23/07/20 07:22 PM
1

How do I download this😭
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy23/07/20 05:39 PM
27

Men can raise their standards and they'll just be cucking themselves out of the SMP
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 09:37 AM
24

I think it can be loyalty but loyalty is rarely compensated well in the corporate world. I got poached by another firm and got 70% pay increase. Switching jobs a lot is one way to continue chasing the bag💰 and I actually admire it more than keeping the same job for a long time. Especially since I know how lazy people get after having one job for too long
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy20/07/20 09:41 PM
5

This is where certain subs need to get called out. Red Pill Women is a sub for becoming more feminine but they basically advise women to get disrespected and still cater to those alpha men.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy20/07/20 09:09 PM
17

Women determine attractiveness on more levels than men do. Most men will call an objectively attractive woman attractive. Most women might consider dating down in one department but dating up elsewhere. If I were to ever date down in looks, he'd have to compensate for that elsewhere. So i would do that if he's an incredibly smart guy with a high earning potential or a sex god. Being ugly is a flaw, compensate for that by doing something with your life. I don't know why people believe you can sta…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/20 09:07 PM
2

I think it's fine to get plastic surgery on glaring flaws. But if that's how you feel, just stay away from them🤷🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/20 09:02 PM
21

For the same reason you should probably not take advice from a skinny person who's never had any extra fat on how to lose weight. Pretty women can't know how hard life is as an ugly woman and will rattle off vague advice and boost your ego when you need the truth and not a cheerleader
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/20 03:04 AM
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Don't listen to the advice of more attractive women. Understand that you can't find the perfect guy so prioritize and don't shy away from plastic surgery to fix glaring flaws (i.e nose, boobs) .
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/20 02:29 AM
2

That sucks
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/20 12:57 AM
3

Sure but there are two genders. Men would love it and women wouldn't accept it
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 11:34 PM
2

He has some good content and it's well produced but I don't think he's red pilled at all
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 11:30 PM
5

Women are hypergamous on more than just looks. Men are hypergamous usually with only looks. A woman may want a man of a higher status, wealth and appearance than herself but the idea they're trying to float around is that men are only into sex so they only want to be with hotter women. I have always said hot women are to men what wealthy men are to women: their ideal mate. Hypergamy goes both ways and men need to understand it's not a female only trait.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 10:47 AM
5

Kate and Leopold! I just watched the movie with my man and it's amazing
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy19/07/20 01:18 AM
37

Lol I got engaged and my gift was my left hand ring finger😂
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy19/07/20 01:18 AM
27

"A gentleman makes other women jealous of his woman." He's crossing a line and playing you and I am guessing it's because you have allowed him to. Get out before you turn into an insecure mess
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy19/07/20 01:16 AM
45

Yes and it's the perfect way to become a pickme
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy19/07/20 01:14 AM
19

Honestly I have yet to meet a man that calls himself a gamer that isn't LVM
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy19/07/20 01:14 AM
27

It's all relative. If you're in medical school and finances are tight, then yes they're okay. The issue arises when a 35 year old man gives a woman in her 30s a promise ring and doesn't discuss marriage ever again for 5yrs. That's when a promise ring = a shut up ring.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy19/07/20 01:12 AM
1

The best way to avoid this is to always keep your emotional investment at a low. Do you know how easy it is to text someone daily? I text my boss daily and I don't have romantic feelings for the guy I always ask myself "how long would it take for me to do this?" When considering what a man was doing; all of a sudden good morning texts and daily phone calls are basic and the bare minimum. Glad you learned a lesson to apply onwards 👍
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy19/07/20 01:11 AM
19

Bring em back😂
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy19/07/20 01:08 AM
23

If you don't know if it was a date, it's not a date. Usually a low effort date like that isn't anything to be excited about
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy19/07/20 01:07 AM
7

This works in high end restaurants and the delivery has to be right as well. My now fiance took me to a new restaurant on our first date and he ordered for me, asking me if I had allergies or dietary restrictions. But, some men try to do this and it completely backfires. That happens when the woman takes offense to it and says "no I can order my own food thank you" or when they order something their date ends up hating.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/20 05:55 PM
13

Abundance Mentality completely changed my dating habits. Don't go on one date and wait for the next one with the same guy, go explore your options the next day. If you're on Tinder, you likely have a lot more men interested in you.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy18/07/20 05:50 PM
13

Read the handbook. Also, you're not obligated to give anyone the benefit of the doubt. Men rarely stick around with the women that give them 100 chances and put up with their bullshit
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy18/07/20 05:47 PM
2

Read the handbook. I don't know why you're giving your nudes out like Oprah gives out cars but you need to get out of this relationship and familiarize yourself with FDS.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy18/07/20 05:45 PM
107

I wouldn't even forgive cheating and having a one night stand...him having a whole ass baby would definitely not be okay either😂
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy18/07/20 05:42 PM
30

There are some things men don't need to know about until you can see yourself being in a relationship with them. The two "flaws" you describe fall in that category, I wouldn't tell every guy on OLD about them. Go out with men and enjoy your dates, when you find someone who you believe is an HVM...then be honest with them.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy18/07/20 03:40 AM
13

You're gonna have to give a little more detail. How old are you? Are you happy with your appearance? What are your surroundings like gender wise ( amount of men etc)?
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy18/07/20 03:03 AM
9

I actually disagree with one of the other comments. You don't have to delete it if they're not actively bothering you. Abundance mentality is important and there is no better way of seeing it right away than in your DMs. I see decently attractive men in there and know I don't have to put up with anyone's shit
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy18/07/20 03:00 AM
5

If that's what helps you sleep at night, then go ahead. If a woman has bad skin, she puts on make up. If a man is tiny, he should compensate for it elsewhere. If you find women that don't care about height, good for you but don't bash anyone for caring about height. It's a preference that many women have
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/20 02:55 AM
2

People are shallow. It shouldn't be something you can forget or pretend doesn't exist. If a man is short, he just has to compensate for the lack of a desirable trait elsewhere 🤷🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/20 02:48 AM
7

So people that make an effort to stay fit and take care of their appearance can't claim credit for it?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/20 02:22 AM
10

I worked for my looks to an extent. My face maybe not but I have changed my entire lifestyle to be fit and lean. I work hard on my grooming as well. Maybe I didn't work for the basic bone structure but I certainly worked for what men see now when they look at me
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/20 02:14 AM
3

Yay! Congrats!! I am about to get married to a wonderful HVM and used FDS as well:)
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy17/07/20 09:27 PM
4

It's always the broke men that have a fear of catching gold diggers 🙄
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy17/07/20 09:24 PM
4

Girl being nice to people you wanna cut out never won anyone brownie points 😂 end it as swiftly as you can
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy17/07/20 09:21 PM
107

Some women like to really live life as the forever girlfriend. She needs restart that discussion or leave
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy17/07/20 09:19 PM
3

Yeah I totally forgot that as an additional reason, fair point!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 06:40 AM
4

Yeah totally!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 06:38 AM
3

You clearly don't know me Thankfully
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 06:36 AM
5

Sure thing
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 06:34 AM
2

Awww nice try! Move along with your negging
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 06:33 AM
1

If she was pushing for a relationship, she wasn't in the casual dating phase because she caught feelings. Either way, my anecdotal experience has proven this effective for me and I think both FDS and TRP are right about the abundance mentality they attempt to instill in people. Also if you had evidence, she wasn't careful enough 🤷🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 06:31 AM
1

I think the social proof thing might work for some women but I have seen too many attractive women with average looking men. Those men were still average looking despite their attractive female companion. I usually see that and assume: 1) he's VERY good in bed and that's why she settled 2) he has money Furthermore, I think both of our responses strengthen the case for juggling partners. I have done it and kept men in the dark about one another until I found the best option.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 06:29 AM
1

I don't know what that girl was doing but my friends and I don't tell men we're juggling them. Additionally, if a man is truly our best option, we get in a relationship with them. During the casual dating phase, both men and women should go out with multiple other people and avoid getting attached to low value people.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 06:24 AM
35

Couldn't agree more💪
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy17/07/20 05:38 AM
5

You must lack reading comprehension
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 05:38 AM
42

I ask myself this a lot more now that I am about to marry a Frenchman. He has blown every other man I've ever dated out of the water in his thoughtfulness and effort from the first date. I do think the most seen men in the States are LVM men that live by the minimum standards and can't even keep themselves clean. There are enough pickmes here as well as a lack of cultural "shaming" for low effort men. Women here get absolutely teary eyed over getting roses once a year while in other cultures it'…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy17/07/20 05:30 AM
2

I actually think it's powerful to always have options especially for a woman. When one potential suitor becomes too overbearing or isn't living up to your standards, you can always exchange him for another. I think abundance mentality is helpful in leading people to leave dead end relationships but there are the few that take it too far and sabotage healthy relationships. Ultimately juggling suitors is clever imo and helps expose you to the field and always gaining the benefits of being pursued.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 05:25 AM
1

He's not a simp if it's his woman
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 01:51 AM
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You can't go from 0 to 100. You have to find some aspect of his look attractive. Yes attraction grows but I like to say it builds since if you have none to begin with its very unlikely you'll all of a sudden become attracted. Behaviors & personality traits can build on a man's attractiveness but they cannot be the foundation of their attractiveness
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy17/07/20 12:49 AM
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I actually like this post because I've seen a lot of contradiction in today's women. Traditionally a gentleman would not be an equal partner Mr. Let's go dutch so most women are going to have to settle for a guy who's not their grandmother's version of a gentleman. However, I think I have found one and he doesn't treat me equally in our relationship. He never let's me do any intensive labor, opens doors, compliments me often and is fully capable of taking on the role of being the provider. To ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 12:21 AM
5

None. I know how attractive I am and all my best qualities. I have walked out of dates because I sensed negging
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/20 06:40 PM
7

I learned everything I know from my mother. When I was younger she gave me the book The Rules and always modelled the behavior she expected of me. My father cheated and she left and was remarried in two years to a younger more stable man. Quite the opposite of you OP but I am grateful for her response to infidelity.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 03:31 PM
7

The couple of ONS I have had were always with men I found incredibly attractive and who were charming. For me I have a hard time justifying casual sex in those instances they also had good personalities and we're generally respectful men
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/20 02:27 PM
7

I like to have sex when we're in a committed relationship. So after dating for a bit and I notice the guy is someone I like and could see a relationship with, that's when I start having sex. No one is entitled to sex on the second or third date. If a man likes me, he'll wait until I am ready otherwise he won't and good riddance 🤷🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 03:57 PM
5

Cue the comments calling him a simp. Love how that word now evolved to also mean men that take care of their women
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy09/07/20 03:45 PM
26

Then I think that might be fine. My guy is in finance and when the market is open, I am lucky to even get my messages read
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy07/07/20 09:29 PM
19

Yes solely on your looks in the workplace might suck but in relationships? No way! Every relationship I've had has lasted mainly due to my looks. I don't play the bullshit game and assume men put up with my high expectations because I am oh so charming but because they find me attractive. So in a relationship, men value you for your looks and then everything comes second. Use that wisely and you may land the man of your dreams🤷🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/20 01:37 PM
11

Are you suggesting that beta men can't be attractive? This sub tends to think ALL attractive men are Alpha and the traits that come with alpha aren't the ones that you'd traditionally think women want. So yes it's better to be with an attractive beta that works hard than an alpha that treats you like shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/20 04:13 PM
79

OR they call you mean. If being nice is tolerating men's bullshit and living to please them...then I wanna stay mean
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy06/07/20 03:18 AM
78

Pick mes have tried reinventing the wheel and failed! Don't lower yourself to chasing dick....why? Dick is abundant and low quality
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy06/07/20 03:18 AM
85

LVM's guide on how to write a bio. If only they are all this easy to spot
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy06/07/20 03:16 AM
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That's what it means to be a desperate man
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/20 02:30 PM
0

Maybe for men that easily get passed up on Tinder and other dating apps. When I was single the best part about dating apps is exactly one of the things you mentioned-- I liked only communicating with the men I found attractive. Even when men found me on IG without matching with me, I'd look through their pictures and just block them if I didn't find them attractive. It also seems pretty time consuming if you ask me, no one should have to put that much effort into finding a relationship IMO.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/20 02:17 PM
1

Sadly yes a few times. I work with a bunch of guys and most of them don't take no for an answer when they ask me out; so might as well reject them over dinner🤷🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/20 08:39 AM
1

Their parents didn't tell them they're pretty enough
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/20 02:05 AM
1

I just think they're creepy nowadays. PPD had a lot to do with that view
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/20 06:40 PM
15

Well once women hit the wall...they settle for less attractive men. My current fiance is better looking than any man I had ever dated in my 20s...so I must have hit the wall pretty hard for him to settle down with me as well. Either way, TRP lives off selective data and a foundation based on disgruntled men
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/20 06:31 PM
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FDS can lead you to marriage and was effective in previous generations. I think with TRP and FDS, the issues arise when people aren't self aware. It leads to a lot more people dating around assuming they're the prize or a catch when in reality they are not. With self awareness and adjustments, FDS has worked for me. I didn't wait 90 days to sleep with my fiance because I couldn't wait that long so I did 60ish; I didn't make him pay for every date and picked up a few cheaper ones (ice cream, brun…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/20 05:37 PM
1

I orgasm with him and recently discovered I can squirt as well. He's very selfless and doesn't mind going down on me but I tend to crave oral sex more than piv and that's where a vibrator would be nice. But I feel like that might be disrespectful to him since he's around to do that
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/20 05:21 PM
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Yes. The underlying implication is that he's not enough, which he definitely is. I usually get wet just being around him for a long time Reading through all the comments definitely shows how even in our progressive society, some people's values around sex are pretty conservative
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/20 12:56 PM
2

I actually pity these type of women. I think it's important to be the "catch" in the relationship and to never be the one that's the most vulnerable. Yes that's not 100% healthy but I've never cried over a man so it's effective🤷🏼‍♀️ A lot of women are okay with feeling like they are lucky to have their man-- simply put if he doesn't feel as lucky or moreso, then the relationship has a power imbalance favoring the man and the woman will be more devastated.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/20 12:42 PM
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Sadly yes. I've always wanted to try anal and my fiance has the exact same mentality; he thinks it's "dirty" and that he doesn't want to do that with someone he loves. His logic is that every woman that has let him do that he never saw the same afterwards and loves me too much. I don't really have the same mentality on anything else but sex toy aided masturbation. Bringing sex toys into the bedroom is what throws me off. I've always felt like using a vibrator in bed with him would be disrespectf…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/20 12:37 PM
1

Not really what would happen if I had kids with an ugly person because I wouldn't do that. But knowing that both me and my partner are conventionally attractive, I sometimes wonder if somehow we'd produce an ugly child. Bill and Hillary Clinton were both attractive and somehow produced Chelsea- that's more of my worry and it's pretty sad since it's shallow as hell 🤷🏼‍♀️ But I do want any kids I have to inherit my blonde hair and my partner's strong jawline and athletic build.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/20 05:14 AM
10

Honestly I made a decision at 27 that when I received my next promotion and could finally say "I made it" financially to myself, I'd set hard deadlines. There is a reason why deadlines are effective in the workplace; it keeps your focus and helps you filter out bullshit. I set a strict 18 month deadline for relationships and if there was no discussion of marriage or active attempts at it, I'd abandon the relationship. No man needs 3-5yrs to figure out if he wants to marry you. I am so happy you'…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy26/06/20 01:19 PM
16

Well by significant other I would assume husband since that's the only man you should be buying a house with. If so, your finances are combined so splitting it 50/50 would be petty
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy26/06/20 01:12 PM
11

I am just seeing it now but usually I'd say just say "I am on my way" and wait 10mins for a response. If they don't reply, block and move on. Anyways seeing as I just saw this was 14hrs ago, how did it go and what did you decide to do?
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy26/06/20 01:11 PM
2

Never rule that out 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/20 06:33 AM
1

Sex with the guy I love is completely different. There isn't some weird put down at the end of it or any devaluation that occurs. In fact, he's happier and much more susceptible to advice after sex. For me, the feeling after casual sex when I did have it is simply nonchalance. I never understood women that actually fell for guys, most dick isn't good enough to keep me attached.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/20 06:29 AM
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Absolutely. My first real relationship was with a guy that wasn't my type at all, 5'10 160lbs and I grew into liking him simply because of how fun he was. He would take me on trips to countries I would never consider and taught me to golf, definitely became more attractive overall
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/20 05:46 AM
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I don't know what you're smoking but it must be VERY strong. The main issues with your persistence are: You're potentially wasting hours on someone that's not interested in you Would not work at all IRL especially in this #metoo era, there's a fine line between "flirting" and sexual harassment. If I have made it clear to a guy that I don't want anything to do with him and he continued by a) sending pics of his dick(I know you didn't advocate that but it's "persistence") and b) continuously told …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/20 12:47 PM
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It worked for me and I didn't even know I was using the strategies until I got on Reddit and found FDS. Apply consistently and make adjustments depending on relationship, men's nature isn't difficult to figure out. TRP and FDS are not on the same level, women don't need to get laid as a form of success while the men in TRP can tout their success via # of casual encounters they get
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/20 11:59 AM
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I've never had bad sex so🤷🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/20 01:23 PM
6

6'0-6'3 is the perfect height for a guy and if he has a runner's build too🥰🥰🥰
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/20 11:11 PM
3

I am one woman. I use condoms because I am scared of STDs There are women that don't
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/20 10:45 PM
6

Society doesn't expect 40 year old men to try to appear like they're still in their 20s or 30s. Meanwhile women are
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/20 03:42 PM
5

Not really a guy I wouldn't be planning on getting serious with because there are a lot of those. It's about the timing, I don't masturbate and if I have a stint of being single for almost a year, I'll just find a decent looking guy and sleep with him. That's not a sign of me being more attracted to him; usually less so because then I'd want a relationship with him
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/20 11:55 AM
3

Absolutely!! They think because men would sleep women quickly as a sign of attraction that women are the same
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/20 11:53 AM
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The guys on here either don't get laid or when they do....they obviously end up sleeping with inexperienced/or low self esteem women. If you're asking about sexual acts I don't do with non-boyfriends: Oral Any sort of butt stuff Condom-less sex - that's a benefit of exclusivity IMO Edit: All my pent up kinks and fantasies I prefer to hold for LTR
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/20 11:51 AM
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I am not sure why this is hard to understand but: One night stand gets 30mins of fun. That's it FWB I would never do so I don't understand. LTR vs ONS: Simply put, one gets me every night and another for not even a full night. They get intellectual & emotional support, good conversations, love and companionship.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/20 11:31 AM
0

FDS says the same stuff but somehow men on here hate on it ...is it because when women raise their standards, 80% of the men here can't get laid?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/20 10:13 AM
2

Be in a relationship where you're valued. If a woman geniunely values a man and sees him as future husband material, she'll stand by him. Don't expect a girl you won't commit to seriously to be your rock
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/20 10:12 AM
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It's not that us women don't want to do that, it's just we're not going to do that for every man. This sort of "stand by your man" only applies when a woman feels the guy is worth standing by
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/20 08:08 AM
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I don't gauge my attractiveness based on casually sleeping with men. But I do in a sense let my ego be influenced by the fact that I have landed a very attractive man as a fiance. It feels nice to get everything you want in a partner and it shows you're in a healthy position in life where you're not too picky and your standards are justified. Additionally, when an HVM invests in you both financially and emotionally, it's another confirmation that you're doing something right. That's the only inf…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/20 05:28 AM
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Expectations/Standards for every "tier." ONS: STD free and attractive with good hygiene. FWB: STD free, attractive, can host, has some common interests. LTR: STD free, attractive and fit, has his own place, ambitious, a full-time job as well as job security, smart, tall. Has the same interests and values or similar ones as me, religious, kind, devoted etc. For most women, the standards for LTR are higher because you have to actually be in a long lasting relationship with these people so compatib…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/20 10:37 PM
4

But the issue is finding out a man fits your LTR standards is more complex than any of the other two.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/20 10:16 PM
2

Sure you know since you have a vagina and you're more attracted to RP guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/20 09:21 PM
2

Men are willing to put up with way less if a girl is uglier than their other options. Why can't women protect themselves and weed out the best men for them?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/20 07:41 PM
1

Yes. I have nothing to be insecure of as far as my body goes so I don't feel the need for a filter or a close up
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/20 07:01 PM
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Surprisingly as a woman I actually agree with this. Yes I like attractive men just as much as the next gal and they tend to have just as many options as I do. The sharing only occurs within a committed relationship not a FWB though. That's just being in a no strings attached arrangement
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/20 06:55 PM
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With girls like these she's not going to be happy until she finds one she wants to break rules for. Bold claim, would it be better if you and every guy she dated got sex on the first date🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/20 06:42 PM
2

I have told him and although he understands why I did it, he still has a really hard time coming around fully to the idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/20 06:35 PM
2

He knows. He just wouldn't be happy with me doing it while I am with him. But he's having a hard time with it overall
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/20 06:33 PM
5

These weren't good enough for you? I originally wanted to go into high powered finance (IB) and they have target schools they recruit from directly. So graduating from my local state school wouldn't have helped me land my dream job at the time (ironically my guy is in the field now). So the prestige of a top undergraduate business school with excellent recruiting options would have been worth the tuition and that's why ultimately decided to attend and figure out the money later.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/20 06:32 PM
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LOL I went over to my man's place for a few days while my house was being renovated and he collected 7 half empty bottles of water, put my name and where he found them inside the house and lined them up on the kitchen counter 😂 it was wild seeing how I actually leave them EVERYWHERE glad to know I am not alone in this habit
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy22/06/20 01:09 PM
2

Sex appeal = how attractive you are. Leveraging your looks by sleeping with higher ups imo. That's my definition If you sleep with your boss...and put a lot of effort into the job, did you receive beenfits? Can you definitively say the rewards were due to your JOB and not because you were intimate with your boss? Those would be some of the important questions that would need to be posed
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/20 09:35 AM
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Lol I don't know what woman is using predatory manipulation tactics for a meal but I think that skill would be more useful elsewhere
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/20 09:30 AM
3

you couldn't date-network Not being able to date I understand, but networking isn't based on looks or anything you can't control. It's your willingness to drive a few hours to a major city to go to a pre-professional seminar to meet people in an industry you're interested in. No one should use sex appeal to give themselves an advantage but getting in the right circle because of your looks and then benefiting from tangible effort on your end (i.e networking) is different. are you still a sugar ba…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/20 08:51 AM
15

I would say go invest in some publicly traded corporations with a female CEO
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy22/06/20 08:28 AM
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you think your choices were predatory or disgusting? No not at all. I wasn't preying on them, most of the time they initiated contact and went over what they were willing to pay and how frequently they expected to see me. Instead of dating broke college guys with barely any connections, I decided I would date older more successful men. It was a simple enough swap; additionally networking is a life skill and that helped me get the interview for my job not quite the job offer. Nothing in there dis…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/20 08:24 AM
9

Ummm SB/SD relationship is completely transactional. In a way, by providing companionship as well as other benefits you're getting compensated. You're literally bringing something to the table
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/20 07:58 AM
5

Imagine going through life owing everything you have to your partner. Plenty of SAHMs are in that dilemma and I don't think they should be dubbed "parasites" for an arrangement that two consenting adults came to. It's not women's responsibility to watch out for men....men should just not provide whatever they're not comfortable with giving.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/20 07:55 AM
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Exactly. Men are not the victims of some scam/predation if they are WILLINGLY paying.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/20 07:52 AM
6

No one forcing men to pay
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/20 07:50 AM
9

In a sense I did that a bit. I went to an Ivy League University and couldn't afford the tuition but was not poor enough to get a decent financial aid package. I was a sugar baby throughout my college years to pay for it all and the connections I made helped me land an interview for my consulting job. I think we all have to do what we gotta do to succeed in life🤷🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/20 07:49 AM
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Fear of rejection and always trying to impress. Also when I am out with my girlfriends and guys approach, they always reject them very harshly. A few those can do a number on a man's ego
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/20 11:42 PM
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When people do that, I almost always assume they hungout with someone else and I am the backup. Not too harsh and a bit worrying that your friends are encouraging you to give the benefit of the doubt to a random guy
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy21/06/20 09:57 PM
5

The responses to this post make me doubt that any of you have ever interacted with REAL women. If you have...you need to be around more since the top comment on here is saying "there is no such thing as an innocent man to women."
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/20 08:31 AM
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You don't begin to take responsibility for your actions overnight so definitely not a phase. A lot of women reach a point where they have to change gears from the guys that treat them like crap to the ones that treat them well that they may have overlooked. I really don't believe accountability is discussed enough in our society when it comes to women in dating but that's just my opinion
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/20 05:55 PM
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When I see women that date men that are assholes, I usually do think they lack accountability when they complain. At the end of the day, no one is holding a gun to their head saying "sleep with this guy who has the emotional intelligence of a 5 year old or die" and I do think a lot of that is lost on women like that. To them, they are the victim of some male vendetta against women, when in reality they just have poor taste. Now responsibility is rarely taken regarding their actions; my friends t…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/20 04:51 PM
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As another poster stated, some cheap gifts are incredibly thoughtful. How do you classify that? Well, thoughtful gifts are the ones that you can easily tell he actually thought about whether that's making an album of your favorite memories (relatively cheap, incredibly thoughtful), writing you a poem or anything that's low cost but takes time and a level of sincerity. The only issue with cheap gift givers is their reasoning, I have noticed most real adults that have their spending habits under c…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy19/06/20 11:03 AM
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It's completely okay to not want to shave or to do so for yourself. I think the issue arises when society pressures us to always be completely hair free EVERYWHERE but our heads. I've never been big on shaving so I always did waxing but quarantine has completely let me take a break from that since everything was closed. It's an amazing feeling but I am blonde and my hair grows as dark so I can usually only stand having it all for a few days. I am glad you're able to relax and let yourself be hap…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy19/06/20 05:00 AM
6

That was all hypothetical, I wouldn't excuse him by staying with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/20 03:34 AM
18

When ugly men act like the special one in a relationship... y'all know this world has gone to shit
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy19/06/20 01:27 AM
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Honestly I could cope a lot easier if I knew a guy had cheated on me physically because I can convince myself he was just thinking with his dick...but emotional cheating means he found a better connection with someone else which means my personality wasn't enough for him. For a lot of women, the latter is a harder thing to come to terms with
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/20 01:20 AM
2

Yes having sex with highly attractive men is nice....how does it feel desired by a hot woman? Same thing works for being desired by hot men. Now my boyfriend is probably the closest to a Chad in my life and he's actually relationship oriented and treats me well. If a guy is attractive, intelligent and has a lot of other good qualities, naturally they will be the most desired. Just like men drop less attractive women for younger and hotter women, women are capable of being attracted to hot men as…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/20 12:27 AM
20

Love Meg's Queen energy in every song
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy19/06/20 12:19 AM
12

I am 5'6 and it's just a preference but it just so happens that men can't control it. Not being attracted to most shorter guys isn't something you can help
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/20 09:44 PM
15

Mine was 6'1, I prefer the stature of most taller men🤷🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/20 09:38 PM
45

I am gonna go against the grain and say you have to customize FDS Handbook advice to fit your particular needs and relationship. I couldn't wait 90 days so I did 60 days. Now understanding the logic behind the concept itself is much more important than any single number; IMO the 90 day rule is used to help us women know that men are not entitled to sex on the 3rd date and having them wait a bit builds anticipation and is overall better. Furthermore, NEVER tell a man you have a particular timefra…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy18/06/20 04:50 PM
2

At least he's hot🤷🏻‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/20 04:07 PM
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The so called "Wall" was an invention by LV men to cope with a higher number of women levelling up and not settling in their 20s for mediocre men. By implementing an arbitrary number (usually 30), they thought the power would be back in their hands. What they don't know is that most women have levelled up and have got their shit together during that time period and become attractive because they have their priorities straight. I am 31 and I have yet to see the decline they've been preaching woul…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy18/06/20 04:05 PM
6

I don't think experimenting is a bad idea...but experimenting without protecting yourself is. I don't think you should focus on long term relationships just yet; I think you should focus on becoming a HVW by the time you hit 21. That means having your education, self care & other aspects of your life together to the point that it will attract older (slightly) more long-term oriented men. The main problem with trying to get into a relationship with any man in his 20s right now is that they'll mos…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy18/06/20 04:00 PM
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I've basically been successful in avoiding these type of men by pursuing men that are already ready made. If he already has made a name for himself in his field and is in upper management, he can take a step back and focus more on levelling his personal life with his professional one
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy18/06/20 03:57 PM
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"A gentleman makes other women jealous of his woman." The moment you start having to indirectly or directly competing with other women...drop him
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy18/06/20 03:55 PM
1

The men here need to get laid more. That's just the problem so somebody please legalize prostitution so we can get rid of them
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/20 03:54 PM
2

This anecdotal experience is kinda marred...I find traditionally unattractive men attractive because of certain qualities. That doesn't mean you're "hot" per se but that what shapes attractiveness is mostly subjective. While a conventionally attractive guy is universally attractive, some men can be considered attractive on a smaller scale by a minority of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 11:02 AM
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No, I think it's really important to take the number in context. My boyfriend was in the modelling industry them adult entertainment briefly during his college years and had access to a lot of sex; now he's desensitized and was willing to wait a couple of months for our first time.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 12:54 AM
2

I have always questioned people that filter based on politics. Overall good list but not something to live by, there are men outside of those professions that do well for themselves. Finding a Democrat is less important than some other qualities such as generosity and intelligence IMO. It's always good to know what you want though
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy16/06/20 12:52 AM
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First 3-4 dates, he should cover them. You don't even need to pay for a full date but pick up for little things. Buy the snacks if he gets the tickets at the movie theater, pay for anything under $20-25 to show you're able to chip in. I honestly didn't get to do much of that because my guy doesn't let me but that's what I would do. Ultimately he should always be happy to pay and reach for his wallet, you chipping in should not be expected but a nice surprise
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy15/06/20 07:58 AM
1

No, it says something about him that he's not leaving her. It's not her job to keep track of his satisfaction, but it's his individual responsibility to self advocate and leave a relationship where he's not sexually satisfied
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/20 12:52 PM
1

Because he can literally have sex with me anytime...why would he rather masturbate and watch the action when he can be in it? But within reason, using porn to jerk off once in a while is not bad, but doing it several times a week or more when you're in a relationship just screams "I am sexually unsatisfied!"
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/20 12:24 PM
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The whole time you're talking about his needs. Step back and reassess this situation and be open in your communication; tell him you want to see how you guys are after lockdown before making a decision on whether or not to stay. I don't think you should introduce a 3rd party into a relationship that's hanging by a thread. Try to postpone seeing his family until you're interested in him and not as uncertain of your feelings/stance. Lastly, please know that it's not your job to fix him. You are no…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy09/06/20 09:21 PM
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My favorite song from her latest album. It's amazing how she's a mega successful woman and still her success is put down to "her exes."
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy07/06/20 11:01 AM
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The interviewer is such a cheap ass...who the hell has the time to split the food bill with their partner?
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy06/06/20 08:30 AM
3

arbitrary time You think I should spend endless days/hours/years wasting my time with someone that doesn't have the same end goal? That's like taking a cab and riding it until it runs out of fuel... pointless. I have commented how often I see him and realized I am giving him too much time. Yes I have to introduce friendly competition as well as limit our time and indirectly make a proposal my goal. I am sorry if you don't agree with the FDA handbook which is being reflected by all the posters, m…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy05/06/20 01:44 AM
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Take whatever a guy does in the beginning of the relationship as a complete guide to how he'll behave/treat you in the future. First he can't plan a date....second thing will be he can't plan a proper engagement. With the help of Google, all the information he needed was 5 mins of work away at MOST
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy05/06/20 01:32 AM
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Thanks😊 To answer your question, I'd say be the places you'd want a HVM to take you. I took myself out to dinner to celebrate at a fancy restaurant by myself and he was there with coworkers. He approached me after finishing up with his colleagues and asked me if I had dessert yet. Set the standards you want from the get go would be my other tip, I didn't even pretend to reach for my wallet and fully expected him to pay despite only having dessert with me. So whatever activities you want your HVM…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy04/06/20 02:33 AM
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I think I might be making a mistake with the time thing. I never initiate contact but he usually wants to hangout with me 5-6 times a week and I never turn him down, should I start even if he's the one setting up the dates?
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy04/06/20 02:09 AM
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Do you have any friends who've recently married or gotten engaged Yes! My sister just got engaged and that's when I thought about reevaluating our relationship and basically prompted me realizing we've been dating for 14 months and no proposal. That's probably the best way to subtly bring up the discussion, thank you!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/06/20 11:38 PM
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That's actually a good idea, we have discussed marriage but never a timeline.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/06/20 10:26 PM
50

Nope, he asked for me to move in but I told him I am not comfortable cohabitating before marriage. He does all the cooking in the relationship because I can't cook, haven't given him the traditional wife benefits. I've been really good about not giving out the milk for free
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/06/20 09:23 PM
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He's a keeper! That's how they should all act
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/06/20 08:27 PM
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