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So it's been awhile, but most young women aren't "beautiful," they're "average." What you meant was "young average possibly-loyal wife" in your first paragraph.
/r/MGTOW09/06/19 10:13 PM
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I've known some incredible female medics. Women don't belong in 99% of combat roles, though.
/r/MGTOW14/05/19 07:11 PM
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I think it may have gotten down voted because it should have read, "humans age like milk." Men start looking like shit at the same time as women do, but society places less value on their appearance and more value on their material and social successes.
/r/MGTOW14/05/19 07:09 PM
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Round faces are more of a Chinese thing than a female thing. This is estrogen face, and it's what indicates fertility. You see defined cheekbones, a notable absence of babyfat cheeks. Fat storage in the breasts, butts, face... that's all estrogen cycles creating that look. Baby fat cheeks are not sexy; they indicate prepubescence... and it makes no biological sense for most men to be attracted to that just by sheer definition and biological imperative. Big doe eyes and slim soft features are sex…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/19 12:19 AM
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Do you think you interact with more downs syndrome or autistic kids in the world? There would be significantly fewer of both if people could stop procreating after 40. Anyways, I thought you were arguing that female fertility tanks around the mid 30's, which is just... false... it tanks around the onset of menopause. Anyways, thanks for contributing.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/19 12:07 AM
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I'm sorry; you use the same sources as another user and I mistook you. Here's what I said to the other user: "Women in their 40's are having more kids now than ever before. From wikipedia's page on age and female fertility: One 2004 study of European women found fertility of the 27-34 and the 35–39 groups had only a four-percent difference.[4] At age 45, a woman starting to try to conceive will have no live birth in 50–80 percent of cases.[5] Menopause, or the cessation of menstrual periods, gen…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 05:34 AM
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I'm not talking about chromosomal abnormalities like being born with too many or too few chromosomes. It's a well known fact that older mothers have increased risk of giving birth to downsy kids. I'm talking about point mutations, which are nearly exclusively linked to older fathers. If you followed that little [6] to the study, you'd see that 575% higher incidence of autism in kids of men over 40 statistic again. Just because the study decides that's not significant enough to mention in the con…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 04:59 AM
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No, they could not have been. Literally, 100 years have not passed since we were first allowed to vote here. My great-grandma couldn't vote.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 04:45 AM
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No, he said that women voted more often than men for a century, which is a wildly inaccurate claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 04:44 AM
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We are born with a physical handicap where 100% of you can easily kill 100% of us all because of 200 base pairs that code for your testosterone switch to turn on. Do you think women didn't do any hard labor? They literally labor to give birth, and back then there were no antibiotics or high quality birth control. My great-grandmother had 22 kids: multiple sets of multiple children. It destroyed her body in a way she had no control over. Women have had the shorter end of the stick (and are litera…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 04:42 AM
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Nah. Little girls flat as boards looking like 12 year old boys aren't sexy. Adult women with boobs and estrogen fatty butts are sexy. It's fertility that's sexy, the physical evidence of that estrogen cycle that hormones bring about in sexually mature women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 04:36 AM
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Cancer is a great way to explain it because while not everyone has cancer right now, most people know someone who had/has it... and plenty of people suffer from it at least once by the end of their lives- if not more often!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 03:42 PM
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happy you're happy
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 10:29 AM
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Validate your own self by promising that this dude's wife couldn't possibly be a fox, or he'd be as lonely as you. Ha
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 10:28 AM
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Men are attracted to fertile women. 50 year old women are not fertile in 99% of cases, literally.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 03:31 AM
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Criminal records are not hot, lol. What drugs are you on
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/19 04:15 AM
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brilliant, thanks for contributing
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/19 04:14 AM
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female opinion checking in: The receding hair line bothers me more than wrinkles, but I find wrinkles on men fugly also.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/19 04:13 AM
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Vagina is a muscle. Do your biceps get weaker with use?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/19 01:43 PM
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I thought that red pill is a sexual strategy by nature, meaning that it can't exist without women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 10:13 PM
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This has so much more reasoning and substance than the original post by the OP. OP cites a bunch of anecdotes while you look at concrete rates, studies that can be searched easily, and evolutionary theory.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 10:09 PM
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Do you think cavemen respected cavewomen? Take a look at the middle east. Concepts like legal and social equality between the genders are new.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 07:14 AM
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I didn't reply to you because you blatantly ignored the other studies I cited that suggest no difference in fertility at all between 20-30 and only very subtle declines in fertility in the late 30's compared to the late 20's. Clearly these studies aren't painting a whole picture because they contradict one another.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 07:13 AM
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Factually, women have not been able to vote for 100 years. So the whole premise is wrong, not to even mention the part where the user claims that women have made up a majority of voters for 100 years... they certainly have not. I'm stunned you'd try to argue about this.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 07:11 AM
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Factually, old fathers give their children much higher risk of many disorders, including but not limited to: single gene disorders pregnancy effects such as miscarriage birth outcomes such as low weight and premature births mental illness including bpd and schizo cancers, especially breast cancer diabetes mellitus downs syndrome low IQ You can read more here.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 06:56 AM
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Nah, women have not been a majority of voters for 100 years. Factually, it's an inaccurate claim on many levels, most obviously because women haven't even been able to vote for 100 years and additionally because they didn't make up a majority of voters until a very long time after that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 06:52 AM
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No, it's not. I don't believe that 99 years can erase 2 million+ years of gender based discrimination. The fact that it's only been 99 years while this user is claiming women were the majority of voters for a century basically proves that the poster has no idea what he's talking about. Of course women didn't make up a majority of voters the moment they gained the right to vote. They've progressively voted more and more over time as culture shifted. From wiki's page: Women's suffrage and gender g…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 06:50 AM
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No, it was 1920. I've got the 100 year anniversary marked on my calendar for a big party. > Passed by Congress June 4, 1919, and ratified on August 18, 1920, the 19th amendment granted women the right to vote. The 19th amendment guarantees all American women the right to vote. Anyways, now both you and u/Mattcwu look stupid, speaking of spouting nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 06:47 AM
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Nah, the wall is around 45 for both genders. Fertility is sexy. I know for a fact I was hotter at 24 than 18, for example. Anyhow, this study isn't saying that 50 year old men are the hottest male demographic; it's saying that 50 year old women have lowest standards... probably because they hit the wall and the range of dudes aged 20 and older all willing to fuck any woman aged 20-45 suddenly don't want them, so they're stuck with old dudes who can only get old chicks. Crumbling collagen is neve…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 06:45 AM
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Cohabitation, maybe? Shared finances? Shared children? Merging of two families? Expectation of a life spent together?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 06:38 AM
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Well if you aren't permanently pregnant then your waist will stay trim and your body fat will stay low and your breasts will stay perky and other men might want you, which forces your husband to be a more competitive male. That's a problem for men who let themselves go. If you get a job and are thus financially independent, then you can leave your husband if he mistreats you and hire a good lawyer... which is a problem for men who are abusive. If you don't have 8 dependent children, then you won…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 01:11 AM
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Women haven't even been able to vote for a century in the US, you dingus.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 11:00 PM
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I doubt that the OP's wife will agree to this little arrangement. And then suddenly, it's all, "divorce rape, at fault what is that? men have no rights!"
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 10:03 AM
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Can confirm. I'm Latina and in a relationship pairing I need water to my fire; most men are not qualified for it. My mom looks 35 at 55, though. It's wild. Some people mistake her for my father's daughter even though they're within a high school age range of one another.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 02:28 AM
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wow you are both so good at debate, have you considered politics as a profession
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 11:39 AM
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You are picking and choosing your sources, and it's incredibly misleading. You liked only one study enough to bring it into the conversation. I wonder why you have such a significant bias that you would totally fail to mention all of the other studies cited in your own linked wiki page with varying findings. Here's a full list of the claims the studies make: > A French study found no difference between the fertility rate of women under 25 and those ages 26–30 > In Hungary, a study by the Központ…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 08:48 AM
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Did you read the user's post? This is so off topic
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/18 11:41 PM
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Are you within 20 years of 50? Just curious
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/18 05:22 AM
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Secret jealousy keeps men horny. See how stupid you sound?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/18 04:41 PM
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She's full because she ate a full meal today. She ate a full meal 3 years ago, so is she full today because of that? Two different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/18 07:59 AM
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I've read a study that claims decades older telomeres on people with children. Can you back up your claims with studies for me? I'd honestly love to read them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/18 07:57 AM
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I could have done this starting at 18 before I turned 19. If I was relentlessly determined, I could probably swing it in under a month.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/18 07:53 AM
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I'll tell you about the variety of people that will answer this question without you having to pick through all their answers: a.) ew no, i'm 35 and don't date below 30 bc of maturity b.) i'll fuck hotties, no marriage ever, so the hottie but not to marry and why would i marry a fug? c.) virgins for the win, she's gonna be my loyal sex slut once she meets me i'm sure of it d.) super slut will give great head, so the sexual hottie e.) something's wrong with both of them, so neither and cross my f…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/18 07:43 AM
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IF she has a normal sex drive, can you even imagine how frustrated she'd be by 28? As crazy as these virgin incels, I imagine, when no one meets the expected standard and the individual is deathly lonely with zero experience a full decade into sexual adult life.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/18 07:38 AM
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The rational man appears.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/18 07:34 AM
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Right? So many people making inferences about personality from behavior, but this post was asking as if all else was equal. Lotta assumptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/18 07:32 AM
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A good reason among bad reasons: the ability to relate.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/18 07:30 AM
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Wait, you think they'd suddenly have an active sex life because you enter the picture?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/18 07:20 AM
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You are a slut if you fuck sluts. Sluts are not for marrying, you said it yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/18 07:18 AM
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Wait, why do you assume she'd get with you? I'm confused. Is the caveat to this that the 28 year old will suddenly be willing to have an avid sex life with you???
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/18 07:17 AM
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Finally a reasonable answer. I'm a mature guy looking for a mature girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/18 07:13 AM
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What if the 20 yo had 4 partners and the 28 yo had 1? Now is there a difference?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/18 06:03 AM
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:'D Oh my god, I can see it: when you're 18 and they approach you in bars, this line.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/18 04:41 PM
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You didn't read anything I posted, by the way you're talking. I'm blocking you, because I'm here to debate and having brainless assertions thrown at me with no backing wastes my time.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/18 04:41 PM
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Are you asking if we should create a class of children with the legal support of a single parent instead of both? For what reason would we ever do that, as a society? Some stupid females want to keep their babies because abr0tion is EVIL and some stupid dudes fail to wrap their dongs and pull out with partners they can't trust. If mom is a dumb bitch and dad is a deadbeat, kid will need all the legal help that he or she can get. Equal opportunity is important, no matter the circumstances of your…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/18 04:39 PM
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4 peer reviewed scientific studies != hamstering. Why are you even on this sub if you don't like to reason?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/18 04:28 PM
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Nah, you don't just tell your partner what you're gonna do. You make choices together, if they're significant: for example, having sex even with BC carries risk of disease and pregnancy. It's absolutely reasonable to want 100% chance your kid belongs to you. It's reasonable to want to have a say in your wife deciding to move to Africa and teach English for 5 years. It's reasonable to want a say in your husband withdrawing half your shared bank account and buying another woman a house. Do you und…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/18 04:23 PM
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Nah, you don't just tell your partner what you're gonna do. You make choices together, if they're significant: for example, having sex even with BC carries risk of disease and pregnancy. It's absolutely reasonable to want 100% chance your kid belongs to you. It's reasonable to want to have a say in your wife deciding to move to Africa and teach English for 5 years. It's reasonable to want a say in your husband withdrawing half your shared bank account and buying another woman a house. Do you und…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/18 04:23 PM
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Your wife got screwed, literally and figuratively. Gorgeous young women deserve strong young men. Maybe she's a fug or something. Hope you compensate for your saggy beer belly with good $. "Mini me's," ha. With that attitude, your kids are going to bring you some hell in their teens.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/18 04:20 PM
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You're wrong, haha. First, the 575% higher incidence of autism at paternal age >40 vs <30, because a whole lot of redpillers will argue that paternal age doesn't matter at all: Offspring of men 40 years or older were 5.75 times (95% confidence interval, 2.65-12.46; P<.001) more likely to have ASD compared with offspring of men younger than 30 years, after controlling for year of birth, socioeconomic status, and maternal age. Advancing maternal age showed no association with ASD after adjusting f…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/18 04:19 PM
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Nah, old man's good idea was to have kids when he was young and healthy, let's be honest. Raising children is for people who are youthful, energetic, and strong.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/18 04:17 PM
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An elderly man >50s has zero reproductive value, haha. Sperm banks don't accept sperm from dudes over 40 because it is a fact that old sperm causes significantly increased risks. You can tell me until you're blue in the face that it sometimes happens: every once in awhile a super old dude will have a reasonably healthy kid. There are stories of 58 year old women getting pregnant after dropping birth control because they thought they were in menopause. There are stories of 58 year old dudes getti…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/18 04:15 PM
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Arguably, old men are far more dangerous to the gene pool than old women for just this reason. Their old mutated sperm gets out there causing miscarriages at best and cystic fibrosis at worst. At least women have a biological cut off when their bodies know it's time to stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/18 04:11 PM
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The risks are small? Haha, oh my god. Google scholar "paternal age disease" and have fun picking through 300,000 papers linking old men to every point mutation we've ever discovered in humans. I agree with everything you say except your hinting that people who wanna be parents can safely wait until deep middle age to try to become parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/18 04:10 PM
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Fuck that shit
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/18 10:18 PM
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When I worked with mouse models, I learned that mice spend measurable amounts of time doing certain things. They spend a certain amount of time sleeping, grooming, eating, exercising, etc. If you spend more time working while she spends more time in luxury, it allows for resentments to grow unless there's compensation of investment in other forms. Relationships are a give and a take. I'd be pretty mad if I was working to grow our future while my partner is off forming exclusive bonds to other lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 10:49 PM
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The bank is reflecting an exchange. You've got yourself a metaphor. Today you own a house because yesterday the bank gave you credits. Today your wife is tired because yesterday she spent all night with her other lover. But before you were together... how can you lay claim to your future wife's time? You're either going to accept things for how they are or you're going to say you, the bank, won't loan money to a particular person's mortgage because the risk isn't acceptable. Granting a mortgage …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 10:47 PM
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r/relationships can probably help you if your partner is cheating, u/enzotiger.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 10:32 PM
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Some people have limited energy, and partners can be jealous of one another's time. You even see that with new infants: mom focuses on baby, dad feels neglected; the couple becomes stressed. Devoting your time to a third party is sometimes agreeable to couples if you mutually are focused on that third party... like with your baby, a threesome partner that you're both interested in, or with mutual friends. However, a second lover to just one marriage partner can be difficult to navigate so most c…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 10:31 PM
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I gotta disagree, because unlike with the past before you met your partner... cheating is still time spent away from the partner. Going to your job or to a hobby is one thing, but spending bonding time with another person isn't always acceptable to a partner, especially if your energy tends to be limited.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 10:25 PM
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Well this is an ironic post.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/18 08:15 PM
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I thought you meant physical therapy. Gosh, you'll really say anything to downplay the accomplishments of women, but no mention of men blocking women from attending medical schools in the distant past. You should know, your attitude is part of the reason Affirmative Action exists; that system is correcting for bias against women, which you exhibit. You cause the thing you hate.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/18 09:22 PM
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Physical therapy is not a specialty of MD... And you're wrong. As of 2017 most new doctors are women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/18 04:34 AM
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Women are medical school graduates more often than men now, so yeah my argument still holds.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/18 03:48 AM
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Ok, so you're also a racist. I'm done.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/18 03:48 AM
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Women need to be cheated on to feel secure in their relationship. You're clearly not a woman. You're making assertions with no reasoning. Male promiscuity is not impressive; the only promiscuity that's impressive is highly selective yet still successful.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/18 02:20 AM
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I don't care if getting pussy is harder for you. I can almost guarantee that getting dick is just as easy for you as it is for me. Just because it's harder for you to be a heterosexual slut doesn't mean that you're a more moral slut than the girl you're fucking. I judge you both the same, and prospective partners judge you both. Couldn't have one without the other, unless men are seeking out dick in which case your entire argument dissolves. Virginal women don't want your 8 strains of HPV and ba…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/18 01:36 AM
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I'm mostly talking about babies needing to be watched 24-7. That's not easy or rewarding; it's boring and tedious and high risk. If the modern baby's risk of death is low, that's a credit to the mothers.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/18 01:34 AM
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I'm not going to get into a war about anecdotes with you because there's no way to prove this stuff, but SIDS is real. Death before adulthood was the most common way to die about 80 years ago for a variety of reasons. Strange that the woman would push for children, because it's her body that rips open to bring them into the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/18 01:08 AM
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Nah, I don't buy into your hypocritical mindset. We're complementary, not equal, but you don't get rights that I don't have. If you sleep around sans condoms and get AIDS or forced to pay child support, I judge you as much as if my sister slept around sans BC and got AIDS or forced to be a single mother.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/18 01:05 AM
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Caring for a kid is nearly 24/7 attention to that kid because they choke on their own milk burps and shit. One of my cousins babies just died because she left it alone for 12 minutes. It's not sitting on your ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/18 01:03 AM
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You have to pick one. a.) we hate all gender sluts or b.) we don't hate any sluts at all
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/18 12:07 AM
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Why would we approve of men abusing and stigmatizing a class of women? You've got yourself a double standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/18 11:43 PM
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lol, "don't start balding" is even harder done than "don't let your tits sag"- at least with the tits you can control your weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/18 09:08 PM
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At first I laughed, but then I felt sad because I know some people actually think this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/18 09:05 PM
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Prostitutes don't have sex with people that have to pay for it because they enjoy it, lol. Otherwise it wouldn't be paid.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/18 08:55 PM
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But of course any woman that considers a man with under 15 partners loses, because women like getting cucked! /s Where do the casual sex partners you want come from, then? These are girls you use and discard like they're objects? Men are having sex with other men to get their high n counts that they're so proud of? You fuck all the sluts you want, get herpes, and then give it to your virgin wife? I don't think that's a very likely scenario. If you're a man-hoe, you end up with a slutty girl. If …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/18 08:53 PM
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Fuck off, lol. Better than wasting your prime on the internet instead of traveling the world while you still have joint spaces.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/18 11:34 PM
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Compared to regular dads or SAHMs?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/18 11:31 PM
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No, I don't think so. I think that's just a bullshit excuse, hamstering by the woman leaving the man, because 50% of couples become divorced. If it was something unique to stay at home dads, I would think about this longer. But it's not
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/18 07:04 PM
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I play with my hair because I have ADHD lol, same reason I bite my nails.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/18 06:56 PM
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As a woman, I feel more natural instinct to protect children and women than men. There's this assumption that if their strength can't save them, my comparatively inferior strength won't be able to help. It's not a lack of empathy; maternal instinct is real. It's just logic telling me I'm helpless if a strong man is also helpless.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/18 06:08 PM
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Yeah, but I liked that video. Very interesting
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/18 03:47 AM
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Giving money to someone for company... is that them exploiting you?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/18 03:47 AM
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I have to disagree. The dude and the chick are both getting something they want. I need a good reason to agree with you, but you're only making assertions right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/18 03:37 AM
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You're right, it sure doesn't. However, being a mail order bride and being mistreated aren't exclusive to each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/18 02:29 AM
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Like I already told u/whatyoucallaflip, mail order brides are brought into a higher social class, generally; they're technically being rescued from poverty. Some people love domestic life. I can tell that you probably wouldn't be one of them, so you should probably put time into school instead of your mail order dating site profile.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/18 02:26 AM
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Mail order brides are brought into a higher social class, generally; they're technically being rescued from poverty. On the other hand, most prostitutes aren't happy bunnies on a Nevada ranch or Marilyn Monroe high class escorts; most of them are scared about food, shelter, a mean pimp, and debt.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/18 02:24 AM
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Some women mate guard, but that's not exactly the same as Madonna-Whore or whatever. The closest I can think of is when a sweet dude becomes a jackass.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/18 02:22 AM
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Mail order brides are not prostitutes. Prostitutes are something you use and throw away. In that way, men who use prostitutes for their own short term orgasm / pleasure are like pedophiles who only want children aged 2-8 and throw them out at 8+ because they don't fit the fetish any more. Prostitution is detached, short term gratification, and exploits impoverished women. Mail order brides, on the other hand, are willing to spend more or less of their lives with you, which is more similar to two…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/18 01:47 AM
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Sure, I agree that it's off a tangential but still acceptable topic mostly because this user equates moral men with preferential men. She's saying that morality in men is attractive to her and suggests that high count men are less frequently moral. Again, I don't agree but it's already been said.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/18 01:41 AM
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The user explained that he/she thinks its because men have to stoop to lower behavior than women to have a high count. Not that I agree, but this question's been answered.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/18 01:36 AM
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What is his credit score like? Is his family nice? Does he have untreatable STDs? The number means nothing unless it has impact on health or bonding.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/18 01:34 AM
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As long as there are no contagious bumps on his penis, right u/OKStupid?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/18 01:32 AM
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I'm not going to do that. When pussies aren't wet the sex is like sand paper, and men aren't charity cases. I'd sooner go help at a soup kitchen, because those are people whose needs are truly not met.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/18 12:49 AM
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Most prostitutes have pimps, lol. Nevada bunny ranches and Marilyn Monroe high class escorts are not the norm. Let me link you some statistics. 80% want to leave sex work as soon as possible; 92% say they'd leave sex work if they weren't afraid for money or food. 40% were child prostitutes. 60% of runaway children become prostitutes. The average male prostitute starts at 14 and quits at 25. The average female prostitute starts at 16.5. 90% of female prostitutes lose at least 1 child to CPS. Fema…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/18 11:18 PM
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Various categories of research, mostly experiments of their own design. I wish you could have met the couple in charge of my biochem lab course; your world view would be rocked because the woman was overwhelmingly more competent than the man.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/18 11:18 PM
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Sure thing, thanks for letting me know.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/18 10:12 PM
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In my experience. Half of my graduating biochemistry class is women, and I've seen many of them do fantastic work in our field.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/18 10:11 PM
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It's wants versus needs. You don't need sex, but you do need a reasonable path to shelter and food that doesn't involve unregulated and dangerous sex trade. I can empathize with wanting to feel loved and with loneliness, but I can't say that the empathy I have for him is not strong enough to warrant someone else sacrificing their safety / becoming a human object / being economically forced to degrade them-self sexually for his pleasure.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/18 10:08 PM
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Well this is a vast and inaccurate generalization.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/18 08:38 PM
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This community, lol. The policy makes perfect sense here, specifically, because otherwise I imagine it just turns into a downvote war. I wish there was some way that you could actually prevent downvotes.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/18 07:09 PM
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It comes off as desperate to me and most women. It may be convenient for me to run around with a pack of condoms screwing any guy I fancy without ever learning their names... but that's gross to a majority of commitment-seeking men. This thread is asking women if paying for sex or having casual sex is more repulsive in a prospective partner. Sure, you wouldn't understand what it's like to be a horny chick and walk a line between liberated and slutty and sure, I don't understand what it's like fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/18 06:00 PM
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There's no cosmic good or bad. There's just pro social and anti social. Expecting us to offer up a class of women to be your sex slaves because you're an incel is... anti social in my humble opinion, and it preys on poor women. I'm open to revising my point of view, but the happy prostitute who just looooves her job goes home and cries. Women know this and the fact that you're a part of that cycle would disturb a lot of the more empathetic girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/18 05:41 PM
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Most upper middle class to high class men are out of college and earning by 21. A significant proportion of those also have trust funds from a deceased grand parent. By 24 my SO was able to easily pay for a 200 person wedding.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/18 05:38 PM
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No, I'm fine with men seeking prostitutes like I'm fine with fat people drowning everything they eat in sugar. Do it if you have to, but I'm not gonna date or sleep with you if I can sense that about you because I'm repulsed by your poor self control and inability to get what you truly desire by hard work. You can make the argument that making money to pay for sex is hard... but we both know that actually having the ability to seduce a gorgeous woman is harder than just having $50-100 cash on ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/18 05:31 PM
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You'll know when you've found her because that last one is somewhat specific- a sign from the universe.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/18 05:27 PM
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Don't do what, u/OfSpock
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/18 05:26 PM
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Why's that? Plenty do. I've been downvoted to the double digits here before. Why would I hold back while others do not?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/18 05:26 PM
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dudes who have to pay for sex < dudes who pay for sex and have plenty of random casual sex < dudes who have plenty of random casual sex < dudes who have selective casual sex Purely from selfish female mating behavior, she wants to feel like she's selected for by a picky and high quality male.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/18 05:25 PM
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It comes off as desperate. Sorry, sometimes there are social consequences to certain behaviors so you should probably hide that bit of info from women you're interested in until they've emotionally invested in you... or perhaps until the grave. And be prepared for disgust, like if you're a woman with a high N count.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/18 05:24 PM
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Ovulating women get super horny. If they have options that make them feel safe / secure / happy, then they might take up one of the offers when they're feeling lonely. Having a boyfriend would make that easier, I expect, but you can find quality men who respect themselves and you outside of relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/18 06:19 AM
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See? It's about what he can get. The women with perfect ass and tits can never know that he hires prostitutes because if they do, they'll know that they're the best he could do... and that's not hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/18 06:18 AM
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I didn't downvote before but I did now. My purity means nothing except to guys like you, and you're not the type I'm after. "Women's purity is far more valuable" is like saying that whale women want you to be fat so it doesn't make them as insecure. Your response to that is, "I don't give a fuck and I'm not changing my lifestyle to suit the hamstering of ugly girls with confidence issues." Sex value isn't what we're really talking about here. We're talking about risk. Every time you fuck anyone …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/18 06:17 AM
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Is it possible that some women have sex for fun instead of to lock down a man for marriage?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/18 06:12 AM
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According to self-reported convenience studies with multiple peaks (13 partners less likely to divorce than 5 and 7, but the a vague linear regression can be dragged out of the noise) and no controls. There's far more to staying married than partner count or the data wouldn't look like a heart beat.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/18 06:09 AM
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Tell us more. What are your top 3 criteria?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/18 06:07 AM
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Nah, I don't think so. We're talking about the woman's perspective in this thread, as per the prompt. Ideally most of us want a guy that can get laid if he wants it, but chooses to be selective. We aren't talking about what the guy wants right now. Please don't change the subject, because we're nearly always talking about what men want on this sub and it's a dried out topic when we're trying to focus on women for a hot second.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/18 06:02 AM
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Agree, because the man that hires prostitutes over one night stands (despite being quality enough to get one night stands) does so because he wants to neglect his partner's sexuality in favor of his own. Hence the paid sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/18 06:00 AM
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I hope you find your hot 20 year old sex kitten with a daddy fetish.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/18 05:57 AM
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Use those condoms and pull out. If you do that, both of you can have low investment sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/18 05:56 AM
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Wild ideas, and I'm sure they work for some people. I'm mostly skeptical because sexual dominance secured my high quality partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/18 05:55 AM
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I believe you, but I haven't met you IRL.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/18 05:54 AM
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Because quality is "hotness."
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/18 06:41 PM
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You made an assumption and your assumption was wrong. Reddit is great; who would have more time to blow than someone like me?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/18 06:40 PM
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I'm sorry u/dangeroustard .
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/18 06:39 PM
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Ok, that's aggressive but whatever
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/18 06:39 PM
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Google scholar "IUD pregnancy rates"
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/18 06:38 PM
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No it's not. How is 18 year of child support a low-investment activity?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/18 06:37 PM
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Does "hot" or "not" change their personalities over time?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 07:36 PM
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Real data, hurray! Let me check this out and get back to you
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 07:35 PM
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As a girl that used to have sorority mixers with the number one men's college basketball team in the US... I've got to say that you're entirely wrong about women never having to chase men to get fucked by them. It just depends on your perspective. For low level guys... I'd say your assertions are generally true.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 07:34 PM
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In my experience, most high schoolers were dating their classmates with a rare exception for the senior dating the freshman. No one at all dated someone 5 years older, that I can remember. Interesting perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 07:32 PM
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Yep, I've read studies that state the average age for perfectly used birth control to fail is age 25.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 07:31 PM
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I'm sure that some fucked up and/or desperate young women would go for a much older dude... particularly if they need money, have daddy issues, or were alpha widowed by a young man that they can hamster themselves into thinking "he's just immature; it's not me!" Honestly, most high quality young women don't go for old dudes, but I hope you find your healthy exception.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 07:19 PM
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One of those women is the top supermodel in the world for the last 5 years lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 07:17 PM
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This certainly makes an argument for more experienced women; I also prefer the bodies of women in their mid 20's because of the hourglass fat / muscle distribution.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 07:16 PM
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Only I like that you suggested to actually do an experiment to assess data and draw conclusions from something concrete. That's unfortunately a little rare on this sub. I think that, based on the relatively even incidence of videos with mature/milf/mom vs young/teen, that both are the extremely popular categories that PH claims. The default seems to be white 20's... but this is a Canadian based company so the general population there is about 85% white. PH is supposedly most easily available (re…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 07:14 PM
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Men pursue and woo women, women don't usually pursue or woo men. Men are more active in the bedroom, women often starfish. Spoken like an unattractive man. :'D
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 07:06 PM
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Not really, because 11 teen-young versus 10 milfy-mature isn't that big of a difference. It's not rare outliers- it's very, very common.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 07:06 PM
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You don't think that beautiful women and plain women live entirely different lives and that those lives shape them?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 07:04 PM
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Yeah, the world hierarchy isn't real. This is just a tool to describe behaviors, and I'm not asserting that it's real.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 07:03 PM
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I'm a gorgeous girl and in my world there are no straight girls. I'm not saying I could get with the exact women from the photos, but some of my exes are absolute knock outs and together we'd get invited to celebrity parties / have our drinks paid for by the bartender / get invited to fancy clubs by the owner and have our drinks comped all night. For the record, I did get a rich dude eventually but he's so much more than just that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 06:59 PM
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This is super cute, hope you've got a good thing going on now.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 06:56 PM
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I gotta present the other side of the coin here: my spouse and I watch porn together and it really spices up our sex life.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 01:53 AM
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The prevalence of "MILF" or "ebony" or whatever, though, suggests that people are gravitating away from the default very commonly.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/18 01:03 AM
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Mature is GILF... not even MILF. And it's extremely popular. Just saying that it's not isn't an argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/18 01:02 AM
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As a white-passing hispanic, probably several... but I can generally tell by the green-gold tan which is different from the orange white girl tan.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/18 01:01 AM
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She's a virgin because her standards are higher than her hotness.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/18 12:59 AM
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2018 searches in a bar graph with source "mature" is right in there between "anal" and "threesome"; looks like it's shot up in popularity bc it wasn't anywhere on 2017 searches in a bar graph with source but notably "mom" "milf" and "step mom" are top searches still
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/18 11:21 PM
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I'm gonna do your experiment and open up the default page of PH and check out the diversity there. I count: obviously these are guesses about race based on appearance 4 black girls 3 asian girls 3 middle eastern / indian girls 9 latina / mediterranean girls 36 white girls obviously these are guesses about age based on appearance 40 girls in their 20's 13 girls in their 30's 1 girl in her 40's "teen" or "young" came up exclusively 11 times "MILF" or "mom" or "cougar" or "mature" came up exclusive…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/18 11:16 PM
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Everyone has their preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/18 11:00 PM
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It's not an outlier. It's the most popular porn category in nearly 10 European countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/18 11:00 PM
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I think so, too. It's cue based, a bunch of check boxes that vary a little bit depending on the person. It might go something like this: titties long hair clear skin 45' angle waist to ass thin waist muscle tone erotic body movements etc Any woman can fit it, but some demographics fit it more easily.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/18 05:56 PM
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So then what's going on with the popularity of "mature" granny porn in Europe? "Cougars Talk Cock" kind of stuff (NSFW)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/18 05:55 PM
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I completely disagree with this. I was infinitely hotter at 23 than 18, even. At 16 my face had baby fat chub, acne, and greasy hair that was growing out shorter than the other hair in a funky little pixy cut on top of my long hair because hormones. I had no tits or ass. You will never be able to convince me that men crave teen tit-less bodies over the bodies of mature fertile women age 18 and up. Women at 15, 16, and 17 aren't as fertile; half of their cycles are anovulatory... meaning they lit…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/18 05:53 PM
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Yeah, I think some Asians get cute right just like some white girls get pretty right, some Latinas get sexy right, and some black girls get fitness right. Most peeps can't afford surgical implants, tho, that's a 5 figure cost.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/18 05:46 PM
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NSFW alert: a lot of the mature vids look like this. "Cougars Talk Cock" These are wrinkly old women. To me these are grannies. "Mature" means older women, specifically, just as MILF implies 25-40 and teen implies 18-28.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/18 05:38 PM
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So men's sexual selection is a byproduct of desire to have status?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/18 05:36 PM
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Right? Sort of like tall girls were popular in the 90's and big booty girls are popular in the 2010's: the common factor is always that men are attracted to women just in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/18 05:35 PM
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That's... more than I expected somehow. Thanks for the stat. Where'd you get it from?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/18 05:34 PM
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All women have no self reflection skills?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/18 04:20 AM
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There's no little girls on that site, though, on the first posts page. It's all mature adult looking women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/18 01:25 AM
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Better safe than sorry, honestly. I'll never say that getting laid a couple of weeks more quickly would be worth the stigma.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/18 10:40 PM
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I am also Latina, and my white friends can't do enough squats to get the booty I have with zero effort. Yes, interesting that you follow the exact trend I mentioned where Latino males and their families look towards Asian women. I wonder what causes that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/18 10:38 PM
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Yes, but as you can see by hentai's popularity, porn does not need to be believable. The devil and angel can both be young girls, if the male fantasy likes youth better than anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/18 10:35 PM
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Fascinating suggestions. I wonder, is attraction to younger women or women your age or older women all conditioned or imprinted? I wonder where nature and nurture depart.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/18 10:34 PM
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You can elect not to have sex with someone who won't get tested, refuses to show you their test, or who has a positive herpes test.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/18 10:32 PM
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I geeked
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/18 10:31 PM
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Or, if you were married for 50 years and your wife dies, you might be looking for her in your porn searches.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/18 10:30 PM
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Yes, I entirely agree. Men and women together need to be responsible to prevent a horrible accident.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/18 10:29 PM
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Brilliant question
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/18 10:29 PM
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Reasonable
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/18 10:28 PM
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Right, traps! I know a lot of people who are fascinated by girly boys.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/18 07:54 PM
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Congrats, you made the first prospectively sound argument for why teen is so low on the list: watchers know their favorite "teens" by name. No reason this couldn't also be true for MILFs or whatever, but this is a reason that could truly make sense and isn't built on assumptions. You know, I also like your answer to the white female assertion. I remember reading a study that indicated familial acceptance of mixed race unions. White men were almost universally preferred by non-white womens' famil…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/18 07:49 PM
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Noo, racial preferences default to a whole range of fertile women of the specific racial preferences. Hentai and anime are not majority or exclusively depictions of teens. I already scanned Porn Hub's hentai section today and there wasn't a single instance of school girls being depicted, just girls from video games, graphic novels, and a range of fairy tale creatures from succubi to giantesses to cat girls. Lesbian, when I checked it today, actually had a huge number of women in their 20's toget…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/18 07:45 PM
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If you don't want to be a father then combining the pull out method with condoms makes your risk of getting a girl pregnant entirely null. You pay for condoms because if you don't then the cost will come back to you 1000 fold eventually. Abortion is birth control. Condoms and pull out are birth control. Use what you have available to you because the law will not protect you financially once your baby needs food and shelter just like the law will not protect a woman's bodily health once her baby …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/18 07:42 PM
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Some 20 year olds are NOT for their age lol- but imo it's less common because 40 year old people have had plenty of time to ruin their bodies with horrible lifestyle choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/18 07:41 PM
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Yeah, I would never stay with a dude that just went totally chronically asexual on me. The whole point of a romantic relationship is intimacy; otherwise you just have a glorified friendship.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/18 07:39 PM
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I like your responses, logically- I have no arguments anywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/18 07:35 PM
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My height maxed at 15, but height and fat / muscle distribution are not the same. My breasts suddenly came in at 18 (proportionally with no change in total weight), and my booty stopped growing (proportionally with no change in total weight) at 24. I've been the same weight since 15, but my body shape didn't stop morphing till 24. I still don't understand why the mature, authoritative figure is there if a younger authoritative figure could play her role... assuming that it really is all about yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/18 07:35 PM
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So it's mostly women watching lesbian porn?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/18 07:32 PM
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If this was true then "teen" wouldn't be a category that users have to search for, 7th in the world. It would just be the true default. Also, I disagree that "teen" depicts literal teens- teen is just a word for women with hot, tight, fit, young bodies. I just skimmed teen in PornHub and on the entire first page there was only one girl that looked 18 or younger with the cues to back it up: she has a set of braids clearly designed to make her look childish. But the 31 others just look like fit 20…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/18 07:31 PM
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The average woman in the US has her first child at 25. From Wikipedia on female fertility: > In the USA, the average age at which women bore their first child advanced from 21.4 years old in 1970, to 25 years old in 2006. The German Federal Institute for Population Research claimed in 2015 the percentage for women with an age of at least 35 giving birth to a child was 25.9%. I would love to see your Tinder study, if you can link it easily. Tinder is still men who are either cheating, are in rare…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/18 07:25 PM
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Thanks for this. Let me edit my post to reflect reality. Curiously, though, teen is still below both MILF and step mom. Right, I think hentai caters to some impossible male fantasies like being with a video game character, for example. I also like your reasoning for the racially specific categories; being able to empathize and picture yourself there would be an appeal as much as the ability to relate it to your life experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/18 07:13 PM
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Hentai girls have massive breasts. That's not a characteristic of teens, so your claim makes no sense to me. Your assertions about their ages are totally unbacked. You could say that their faces are wrinkle free (they're old but look younger) because it's easier to draw them that way in the same way you could say their faces are acne free (they're very young but look older) because it's easier to draw them that way. Unless the porn was fixated on scenarios that would involve very young girls in …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/18 07:10 PM
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Drawn women literally do not have an age, but one thing I associate with hentai is massive breasts... which is not an attribute of most teens. I won't argue with you that women learning about sex is sexy, but it would be quite similar but with more emphasis on young women if a shy 20 year old girl was getting her "innocence" taken by an aggressive slutty classmate or team captain or a man or whatever. The prevalence of older porn actresses in lesbian porn indicates that the sexual knowledge of o…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/18 06:55 PM
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I'd be shocked if people, even managers / leaders, don't empathize with others who are like them better than they do with people of other races / genders.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/18 06:52 PM
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Maybe someone will have a good source / study for us.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/18 06:47 PM
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Sex and danger both capture our attentions for easily understandable reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/18 06:46 PM
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So women earn about 1,000 pounds more on average per year in their 20's and men earn about 8,000 pounds more on average per year in their 30's.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/18 06:45 PM
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Hentai is not usually/always teens. It's drawn women. Hard to communicate age with that sometimes, unless you really develop the story. I just checked Pornhub and current video titles include: Monster Girl Labrynth, Monster Musume, and a handful of other anime titles Giantess Sex I Totally Don't Even Care About Your Erection Bowsette I expected to see some pervy barely legal school girl hentai, but in the top 32 titles there's none at all and I give up looking. For lesbian porn, I'm scrolling do…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/18 06:44 PM
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I don't doubt your story at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/18 06:22 PM
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I get a lot of joy from painting and gaming in my free time, developing cancer therapies at work, and getting paid the same as my male coworkers because I don't take time off work. Latino immigrants will make up for the numbers I don't contribute to the US population- don't you worry.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/18 06:22 PM
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Good sex doesn't involve me getting HPV or herpes lol
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/18 06:18 PM
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Me neither. I'm not saying it doesn't happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/18 06:18 PM
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It's more common to have male bosses and managers because men have been in the work force for longer.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/18 06:18 PM
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Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/18 06:17 PM
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There isn't a pay gap until after women have children.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/18 05:21 AM
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Having children is not my responsibility. You can insist all you want, but I don't care about your male perception.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/18 05:19 AM
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I guess I've just never had this problem. Coldness is such a turn off.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/18 12:55 AM
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Why would these chicks be pining for someone that doesn't want them? I don't understand. Being nexted isn't sexy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/18 12:18 AM
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Men have choices. Never want to be a father? Get a vasectomy. Don't want to be a father with this casual partner? Use condoms. Don't want to be a father right now with your serious partner? Help them obtain good long-term birth control. Just pulling out without even using condoms has a 94% success rate. Combine that together with condom use and you have an absolutely negligible chance of getting a girl pregnant. Girls get an extra get out of jail free card because it's their perineum that rips o…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/18 12:08 AM
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STD rates. Now that. Is an idea. That I would love to see someone do a study on. Correlate disease history with marriage status: any doc could do it. It's really a better study for a number of reasons: it shows the relationship between ability to stay married and women and men who are careless, impulsive, and whoreish. If a girl's history isn't gonna make her divorce, cheat on you, or share disgusting details of her past that make you insecure... then that's a different class of slut than the ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/18 12:04 AM
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We're assuming that not everyone that's had sex with more than one person is automatically a disloyal cheater. Like I said, if you can tell her partner count by her behavior... then obviously the behavior isn't in the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/18 12:01 AM
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Aaand you're a part of the problem. I WANT IT NOW. Consider that build up and anticipation might be sexy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/18 12:00 AM
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Not everything is catering to male perception; I'm not going to live my life saying to myself, "Well men want me to dumb myself down so they feel smart and well men want me to be shy and not go out at night and men want me to speak softly and well men want me to only have sex with them so I won't date around- I'll just wait for Mr.Right and we'll just know when we meet and look at each other for the first time that we're the ones for each other and that we'll get married..." A lot of sex that da…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/18 11:59 PM
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I'm not saying it doesn't happen. But think about it- if she's a virgin until 26 then she is either damn good at repressing her sexuality, a fug that even desperate guys won't touch, or she's just not a sexual being.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/18 11:52 PM
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Sure! If you have a high enough SMV you can demand whatever you want from partners. Marilyn Monroe was a model and escort, but no one cared that she literally sold sex even in a time when sexual history mattered much more because she was so desirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/18 06:58 PM
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High quality people are the gate keepers of commitment, male or female. The one with the higher SMV gate keeps both sex and commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/18 06:56 PM
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How is it shaming to tell him that I hope he finds someone who meets his standards and is like him in the ways he prefers?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/18 06:55 PM
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Are you sure that you want to know? He's not a red piller by any stretch of the imagination and what I have to say won't be validating to your viewpoint. First let me ask why you're on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/18 06:54 PM
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Sure, of course ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/18 06:53 PM
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All you have to do if you're a known slut is move cities to a place where people don't know you're a slut and purge your social media of people that knew too much like the Clintons killin reporters.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/18 06:53 PM
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Sex is a normal part of life; every single one of your ancestors did it for billions of years. Religion will tend to shame women for sex; women from religious backgrounds would be likelier to lie about it. Lying is certainly not healthy for relationship longevity, I agree. But then again, neither is sexual repression. Honestly, the past doesn't matter unless it follows you into the future. Here are examples where the past matters: You have a kid with an ex. You bring your spouse diseases from an…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/18 06:51 PM
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He said he struggles to imagine a partner with someone else in the past. That's jealousy or envy, depending on how you cut the cake.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/18 06:48 PM
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Here's a nice little paper about convenience sample bias and self-report bias. Neither are traditionally good science.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/18 06:48 PM
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Women do the brunt of child care. I'd be surprised if they aren't in more part time jobs from around the time when their children are born to around the time those children start school. There's no pay gap until after women start bearing children.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/18 06:45 PM
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The one with the... thing... is the last guy that gets interviewed.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/18 06:13 AM
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You didn't even read what I posted.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/18 06:10 AM
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You think you have control, but you don't. Her friends aren't your friends, and girls aren't telling their little brothers, mommies, and daddies when they fuck around. Are you gonna secretly search through her facebook for signs of deleted messages and then message those people yourself? lol no You'll only meet the friends and family she wants you to meet.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/18 06:09 AM
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I have a distaste for double standards, certainly. Are you a tattoo artist who hates tattoos?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/18 06:08 AM
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Nah, some lies go to the grave. Imo honesty is the best policy, but I've known some people that lie just to lie. Never even mind lying with an incentive, if she's insecure enough to want a guy that wouldn't want her if he knew her better.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/18 06:07 AM
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Based on your questions here I'm starting to think that you've never turned down a woman above a certain baseline of attractiveness. It all boils down to her appearance, and anyone above the hotness threshold can have you. Not everyone is like that. Some people want to know the other person, build trust and anticipation, see if the energy is lasting or just lustful infatuation, etc. I didn't just seduce a guy that was into me; I made him want to marry me.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/18 06:06 AM
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Depends on where they were raised. I was bullied for being a virgin; girls and guys thought I had trouble bonding and letting go in the moment. Others are told that sex is shameful. Who would lie, and how much would they lie? It's a black box and we can't get the answers with self reported convenience surveys.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/18 06:03 AM
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You wish, but then we look at the Kardashians and know that there's no justice or fairness.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/18 06:00 AM
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NSFG isn't a bad source at all. Good job. Sadly when I searched google for this image... nothing came up except the one you linked. I'm struggling to find the study attached to this image. If the partner count is self-reported as I suspect, well... it's not a good study because psych black box studies are rife with dishonest patients. Self-reported stats may not tell a complete picture because people lie. And I can't see if religion was taken into account because I can't read the methodology sec…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/18 04:56 AM
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I chose my mate. I seduced him.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/18 04:53 AM
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You aren't responsible for other peoples immoral behavior. I'm simply making the point that all you do by screening against something with no concrete indicators other than someone's words... only eliminates the honest sluts. You've still got a dating pool with dishonest sluts and everyone else that isn't an honest slut. There's no guarantee. It's like saying you'd never have babies with someone that's got genetic diseases, but the people you're dating can't / won't get sequenced to indicate tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/18 04:52 AM
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I agree
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/18 04:50 AM
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lol fuck off, this is a sub for debate
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/18 04:49 AM
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I control + f'ed for "divorce" and it didn't come up anywhere. What am I looking at?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/18 04:16 AM
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So you give them initiative to lie to you or the next guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/18 04:15 AM
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I wish more people required STD tests. Our entire society would be healthier.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/18 04:15 AM
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Women choose to whom they give their time and company. They choose to give children to men who they believe are worthy fathers. They choose whether they greet you with a kiss or without even looking your way. Men have chased me for relationships for my entire life. You'll never be able to tell me than men are gatekeepers of commitment because I got wifed up by a high quality guy as soon as I wanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/18 04:14 AM
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Show me a study indicating your assertion that has control groups for the religions of couples involved. A woman with Catholic guilt about having sex might also be a woman with Catholic guilt about divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/18 04:10 AM
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You're not looking for someone with your same standards?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/18 04:09 AM
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You deserve to be with a woman who makes you feel secure and comfortable. There's someone with your same standards out there looking for you, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/18 04:08 AM
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My thoughts are... if she lies and you'd have no way to prove it, how much does it really matter? You can't tell by examining her. It's not like girls get a new STD for every partner they have and you can test them for diseases and uncover a partner count; being with just one partner can give an unlucky and naive girl every disease in the book and being with 10 that she selects carefully and gets tested can result in zero diseases. It's not like you can check her ladybits and say, oh hey you're …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/18 04:06 AM
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I'm very curious about this answer. What causes sexual insecurity? Do you tend to be anxious generally, or is it purely sexual? When you cook dinner, do you worry that you don't make her comfort food like her momma did? When you go into an interview, do you worry about who else has walked through those doors and been asked the same questions?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/18 03:57 AM
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It's not always about a body. Sometimes it's about securing a girl's commitment to you. Would you like to be the only person who has sex with her going forward? If no, then we're all good. If yes... then you're not covering all your bases.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/18 03:55 AM
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They're just worse, he says. But how?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/18 03:54 AM
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I hope you find an equally jealous partner so that you guys can only be with each other together.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/18 03:53 AM
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Get your partners tested; that is the answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/18 03:53 AM
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But how do you know that they're not lying to you about their numbers, if they'd lie to you about condoms or dental dams?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/18 03:52 AM
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Newsweek is soooo scientific. No, actually I'm lying. I was hoping that the original article referenced by your article would be better... maybe it would talk about controls and whatnot... but alas no. All your article says is that getting dirt out of hair is fairly straight forward. ​ Here's an article about different suspending agents. Here's an article about an entirely different class of shampoos, comparing them to one another. Here's an article about one type of dandruff shampoo. Here's an …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/18 03:50 AM
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Don't appear according to whom? Please give me a source that compares the two. Don't act like being a mother isn't rewarding. I'm childfree because it honestly doesn't seem rewarding at all. I disagree with you on pretty much all points. Women get to have abortions because it's their bodies that rip open at the perineum in every birth I've ever seen. It's them that can't jump without peeing and struggle to sit up without passing out at the worst points. Women get an extra get out of jail free ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/18 03:29 AM
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I don't think that women monopolize easier jobs. Women monopolize jobs that don't require physical strength. Or if they are mothers, they monopolize part time jobs so they can do childcare.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/18 01:54 AM
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CPS will take your child if you leave it alone. So you will be paying, if you are a low income person / family, $174,690 for childcare from birth to age 17. In 2016 waiters and waitresses averaged $19,990 per year- multiply that by 17 and you get $339,830. Subtract childcare costs from your income across 17 years and you're left with only $165,140. You will have one hell of a shitty house, even if you pay the entire rest of your whole income to afford the house. Not to even mention food or cloth…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/18 01:52 AM
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There are a vast number of shampoos that are different from one another. I said relax the shoulders away from the ears. You aren't a good listener.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/18 01:20 AM
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No, I don't think so because the suffering of childbirth and pregnancy is not fair or equal. It only makes sense that women would have an extra get out of jail free card. It's not sexist to admit that there are differences between the sexes.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/18 01:19 AM
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Yeah, leave that open marriage person for someone else who also wants an open marriage. Don't you settle.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/18 11:43 PM
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Doesn't take two humans to bring a dog into the world, lol
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/18 10:16 PM
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Turning on your brothers and your men is fratricide.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/18 08:22 PM
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Suddenly women being on welfare more often makes sense when we see the number of male and female children they claim as dependents on their taxes. I've never been able to find a well-controlled study on this topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/18 07:32 PM
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Some truths are self-evident. Others are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/18 07:31 PM
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Only if he gets a cheat pass, too. But why make your one life partner someone that wants to "cheat."
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/18 07:26 PM
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There's a truth in this somewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/18 07:25 PM
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end thread But really, you have got to be so selective with your commitment- man or woman. Don't marry the girl who doesn't do oral if you love oral. Leave asexual girls for asexual guys. Keep working on yourself until you can get the girl or guy that meets your standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/18 07:24 PM
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> I literally moved out with my clothes and an x box. Thats all I got. How did this happen? Did you leave your lawyer some bad online reviews? > Men have to be VERY careful about who they marry It's arguably the most important decision of your life for either gender. No argument, there. > Again, If you are a mother, you shouldn't have a fucking "career" Why not? If you want a world where you can leave me and face no consequence to your earnings while I'm thrown out into the cold or expected to s…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/18 07:20 PM
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I don't necessarily disagree, but can you give me a source on this? My 47% stat and school stats are easy to look up... but I'm not finding a source for yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/18 07:14 PM
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Some historians claim that the Spartans who got their names on their tombstones were men who died in battle and women who died in childbirth.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/18 07:13 PM
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First of all, that's "fratricide" not "genocide." Second of all, I've never once read someone calling for that here or elsewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/18 07:07 PM
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I don't read "bothered" in this OP's post. There's no emotional verbiage, accusations- just discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/18 07:06 PM
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I'm not strong enough to work in a warehouse or lift 125 lbs above my head to be a fireman lol
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/18 07:02 PM
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Sort of the way the whole group's survival trumped an individual man's when it comes to war times.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/18 07:02 PM
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Venereal diseases used to kill people before antibiotics were a thing. A lot of rape isn't just rape- it's rape and murder: I kill your children, your husband, and gang rape you almost to death then leave you with horrible injuries and no protection or way to feed yourself in a war torn part of the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/18 07:01 PM
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I read 1/5
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/18 07:00 PM
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I bet red pillers can't come up with reasonable responses to this.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/18 07:00 PM
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47% of US workers are women. More women go to medical school and law school than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/18 06:59 PM
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I'm a chemist. Most shampoos aren't the same, actually. Saying you can't move your shoulders in two different directions in a 3D world means the rest of your reply isn't worth a read.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/18 06:22 PM
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Right, get a job. I'm not sure why providing the critical service of bearing and raising children isn't worth equity to you. A person obviously can't work while watching an infant full time.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/18 06:20 PM
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That's strange, because both doctor school and lawyer school have more women than men. Such easy jobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/18 06:18 PM
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Don't get married if she doesn't contribute equally.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/18 06:49 AM
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So you're a narcissist.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/18 04:22 AM
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Aaand now I hate you. Lucky you that you found your wife. Her sexuality is generous. Yours is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/18 03:30 AM
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That's the whole point of a threesome, lol. Hopefully one person in the couple is bi or at least bi curious... otherwise it'll be the worst threesome ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/18 03:28 AM
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Don't feel bad, you're just from a different culture. If something makes you uncomfortable, you can just say, "Kisses are for husbands" or something like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/18 03:20 AM
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I am Mexican. We are a very warm culture; even the walls of our houses are warm colors instead of the all white walls of Caucasian homes. When we greet you, we don't shake your hand. We come right up and embrace you, kiss both your cheeks, exclaim adoring pet names. Girls are direct; if they are interested, you will know. Someone asked me how he would know if a Latina wants to fuck him; I said, she won't be telling you- she'll just fuck you. It's our culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/18 10:26 PM
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This is well-said.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/18 10:14 PM
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Do you like women? You don't seem to.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/18 07:47 PM
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Well you don't meet them in the club, unless it's a book club.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/18 07:03 PM
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How about she raised his children for 8 years and could only have a part time job during that time while he advanced his career with her support?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/18 07:03 PM
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> And if you want to talk about unpaid labor as an excuse, judges should make women work for that money -- cleaning and cooking for the guy for the rest of his life after they get divorced would be a good place to start. It's about past labor: feeding the dude, working while he was in school to support his career, ironing his shirts, birthing his children to perpetuate his genes and caring for those kids with career on the back burner until they're old enough to go to school. Then the woman goes…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/18 07:00 PM
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How many women have you married? How many friends do you talk about the intricacies of their finances with? To say that only a minority of women are self sufficient is not only wrong... it's sexist. 47% of US workers are women. Why do men marry lazy women who aren't willing to work and contribute nothing? More likely, the women are doing childcare (30k per year if you're paying someone else to do it) and also acting as live-in maids (an additional 25-35k if you're paying a worker instead). Judge…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/18 06:58 PM
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Speak for yourself. And did you miss the part where I told him specifically that, "how much you eat" is the other half of, "what you eat"? Let yourself suffer through teenage acne, then, and let your skin try to naturally take care of itself lol. If the goal is for girls to like you, you're gonna throw and miss when they go in for the kiss and see your cystic acne up close. She'll have a recommendation for dandruff shampoo, I imagine, probably based on the OP's hair type. You can both relax your…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/18 06:41 PM
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There is no wall UNIQUE TO WOMEN.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/18 06:36 PM
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Yes, they have babies. Then they care for your babies. Have you looked up the cost of childcare in the case that the woman doesn't do the childcare? Have you looked up the cost of a live-in maid in the case that the woman doesn't iron your business shirts, do your laundry, clean your home, wash your dishes, make your dinner?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/18 06:35 PM
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Generally the law respects that while one partner is working the other is doing childcare of homemaking work, in situations where one partner has far fewer assets than the other. Is that not the case; you and your partner don't treat with each other equally? Then you married the wrong person.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/18 06:34 PM
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You're dating the wrong women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/18 06:32 PM
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Well it doesn't matter what her attitude is because the law says equal division of assets.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/18 06:49 AM
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We should all be allowed to have preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/18 03:40 AM
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Her stuff becomes his stuff, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/18 03:13 AM
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Men rank women, too, on a scale 1-10 by appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/18 11:29 PM
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Is that a photo of you? I'm sorry that stereotypes like that exist. The blue-haired feminist also comes to mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/18 09:16 PM
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Congrats on your weight loss.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/18 07:57 PM
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We are certainly complementary without being equal, I agree, but in this case you hate tattoos and are a tattoo artist. Metaphorically speaking, of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/18 07:55 PM
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You're right; that is very sexy. I don't like feeling like I'm the best you can get but I never had a word for it before.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/18 06:59 PM
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Thank you fam, I try
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/18 06:36 PM
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Can you think of any reasons why that might be, if we're assuming that it's not a lack of industry?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/18 06:26 PM
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Engineer / doctor / lawyer are all jobs that momma and dadda are gonna love because little girl won't be a dependent any more.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/18 06:25 PM
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What is abundance mentality?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/18 06:11 PM
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Bartending while you're in school to keep your student loans down is hot. You know where the party is, are developing outstanding social / conversational skills, make good money, work hard. Being a regular old bartender at 40 is... not.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/18 06:11 PM
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PhD engineering is usually 6 figures, similar to a primary care doctor. If they go patent law afterwards, they can make half a million per year.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/18 06:08 PM
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The weirdo in the corner is suddenly a mysterious stranger if he's slim, clean, and ripped. u/houseofwolves2901 let me go into detail on some of this user's recommendations. weight loss The two things that matter, beyond stuff you can't control, are how much you eat and what you eat. what you eat To be trim you aim for non-starchy vegetables, proteins, and fats. Ditch the carbs wherever you can. Dinner comes with bread as a starter? Don't eat the bread. Your burger can come with lettuce instead …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/18 06:00 PM
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Well I won't try to discount your personal experience. I do question your double standard because you aren't building a world that has the kind of girls you like, but everyone has their own preference.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/18 05:28 PM
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If 4 months is the shortest, that's between 2-3 new partners per year- give or take. If you started at 16, by 35 you'll have had nearly 50 partners. Some casual opportunities are hard to pass on; would you want a wife with an n count like yours? I hope this doesn't sound judgmental.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/18 05:09 PM
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There is no wall unique to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/18 05:06 PM
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Yes, but then you inquire about the quality of the 35 year old women dating 45 year old guys and the story suddenly comes together.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/18 04:56 PM
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I like "trade" better than "commodity." The latter is more objectifying, I think.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/18 04:51 PM
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So have you jumped monogamous partners constantly for years?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/18 04:49 PM
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Four brains, all working just as hard as you and all just as capable as you... are now working together. You won't win.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/18 04:48 PM
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I read a study that said women were less likely to be hired to orchestra positions even when the try out was anonymous, conducted behind a curtain. Then a later study observed that when anonymous interviews were conducted without shoes... the gap suddenly disappeared. The guess by the researchers was that the judges could tell gender by the tapping of high heels even with anonymous try outs. I bet there's something like that going on here, with your study. Or alternatively, the gender signaling …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/18 04:47 PM
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Thinking of sex as something to be traded sits wrongly with me. Ideally we'd both want and enjoy it; I'm getting it as much as I'm getting it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/18 05:43 AM
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Fascinating. Thank you for sharing this. It does sound a lot like the red pill!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/18 01:33 AM
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Well, see, the thing is that the company has different roles to fill. They tend to fill the higher paying roles with men and the lower paying ones with women, is what seems to happen according to some studies.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/18 12:55 AM
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You shouldn't have commented on my comment if you have nothing to say about it. Make your own comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/18 12:54 AM
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Hopefully we're headed into a world with fewer and fewer single dads and single moms. Every single mom's kid has a daddy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 11:52 PM
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I learned something new today: the distinction between single parents and deadbeat parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 11:48 PM
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You're not wrong, but there are still many choices that single fathers could have made better: condoms, vasectomy, choosing a trustworthy / intelligent / like-minded partner, pulling out even if she claims she's on bc, looking into her methods of bc or offering to pay for an IUD / morning after pill / hormone implant / etc. At some point, a vast majority of single dads did something stupid... just like single moms. So in short, I don't think your response is a full picture. Single dads are still…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 11:46 PM
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lol I only had to read the top line to know this answer isn't it; a couple of my cousins are single dads and they literally change jobs to avoid paying for their kids doctors appointments and food if they were responsible they wouldn't be fucking sluts and getting them pregnant; condoms are 96% successful, but knowing both of those dudes... they didn't use birth control at all
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 11:42 PM
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well don't join a debate club then
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 11:32 PM
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They belong together, like with like
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 11:31 PM
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Yeah fear of disease, so insane
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 11:30 PM
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Reason 4 - females cause sexual harassment ​ Let me suggest that a man who cannot treat other humans with basic respect will be a bad role model for other men. When a teacher fucks his teaching assistant, it's not just disturbing to women... it's showing young men the actions of an otherwise successful man; he's an example to them. Sexual harassment is something that people will be trained out of with time, especially the more of an issue it becomes: we learn from an early age not to hit each ot…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 10:10 PM
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Before I even start reading this, I'm excited because it seems like instead of brainlessly saying, "noooo you're stupid / delusional" like most of the users here... you look like you have cognition to back up whatever you might say next. So your first point about Italian women makes perfect sense. Of course there was no parity in Nobel prize winning because Nobel prizes were first awarded in 1901. Now I'll refer you to the timeline of women's education on Wikipedia. Thank you for teaching me abo…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 10:08 PM
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Ok, so we think that people with high partner counts can easily leave that lifestyle behind to become monogamous when they so desire. Loyalty has nothing to do with sluttiness? That's a different view than a lot of people on here have, so I'm sorry I assumed you'd take it on.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 08:56 PM
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So how would most women evolve to instinctively maximize disease risk? That doesn't make much sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 08:54 PM
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You still haven't addressed my point: sex with players was literally so dangerous that women who did it were removed from the gene pool.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 08:53 PM
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It's different from someone telling a man he throws like a girl, which is sexism. Creepy is an observation about behavior that can be applied to all people or even animals.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 06:57 PM
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Nice assessment, quality content
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 06:53 PM
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You still haven't addressed my points about diseases.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 06:49 PM
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You haven't answered any of the points I made. You just disagreed and then tried to tell me, a woman, what you, a man, knows women totally want. Experienced women don't want virgin men, lol- that's exactly what I said. Women want men of similar experience level.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 06:44 PM
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That's pretty sick and twisted- really makes you appreciate the good friends when you have them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 06:43 PM
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Harems are extreme exceptions: kings have harems, not peasants. Finances drove that, obviously, because those dudes could afford huge families.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 06:42 PM
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Your high count suggests that you take risks with your health and finances. You may struggle to be monogamous because if you fuck every hot woman you can, do you have will power to say no once we're supposedly committing? Agree or disagree?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 06:40 PM
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Let me suggest that many men are sluts because they struggle to control their will power or choose lower risk options; that's not sexy or good for a long term relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 06:36 PM
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lol I met my husband in a 3 some with another girl. We are very happy: adventurous in just the same ways. Granted we're only 4 years in, but so far I am very pleased. Best to you and your relationship & thanks for being the classic quiet INTP voice of reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 06:35 PM
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I've already said this here, but no way. Women do not want sexually experienced men. Biologically, women are designed to seek out men with similar levels of experience. Players / man sluts / slut fuckers are not desired... probably for the same reason men inherently find sluttiness kind of gross: the human instinct doesn't factor in the existence of antibiotics yet. If I sleep with a man slut, my biology thinks I may lose my fertility to chlamydia. This is why a lot of girls are jealous or want …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 06:32 PM
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Interesting side of this that I don't normally see: the good girl bemoaning sluts giving men more expectations and options to leave a wife. I think that if you could empathize with men better, you'd have a more rounded / consistent view where other men trying to steal your wife bothers you. You sound like me when I used to bitch and bitch about cheaters ruining the grading curve for everyone else in my program. There were so many cheaters, and they did so much better collaborating on take home e…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 06:29 PM
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> Here's the slightly deflating caveat: this reverse gender gap, as it's known, applies only to unmarried, childless women under 30 who live in cities. The rest of working women — even those of the same age, but who are married or don't live in a major metropolitan area — are still on the less scenic side of the wage divide. So I'm more or less correct. If you have children, they ruin your career. If I want to continue to rise in my career, I can't be taking time out to have babies. Fascinating.…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 06:23 PM
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No way. Women do not want sexually experienced men. Biologically, women are designed to seek out men with similar levels of experience. Players / man sluts / slut fuckers are not desired... probably for the same reason men inherently find sluttiness kind of gross: the human instinct doesn't factor in the existence of antibiotics yet. If I sleep with a man slut, my biology thinks I may lose my fertility to chlamydia. This is why a lot of girls are jealous or want to chase your ex out of your life…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 06:19 PM
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Harvard is ripping apart gender segregated clubs including fraternities and sororities. There are fewer and fewer gender segregated spaces. I'm not sure how far we should go as a society, but I really have to ask... Why allow only men to obtain degrees at certain schools? This immediately makes even less sense to me than women-only feminist clubs, because at least the feminists are presumably doing something that benefits only women. With craftsmen clubs and schools... women could not have just …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 06:10 PM
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There is something disturbing about it, isn't there? Dehumanizing to everyone, in a way.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 06:03 PM
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Was it disproved completely? I thought that it was real, but only because women are pushed into part time and lower responsibility jobs in child-raising families. I thought it wasn't real for childless women in environments with equal opportunity to rise, or something like that. Do you have any sources where I can read about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 06:00 PM
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Yeah they've got some fish to fry over here.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 05:58 PM
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I'm not talking about the outliers. Some 92% of Americans have a vitamin deficiency, entirely avoidable. More than half of US adults are overweight, entirely avoidable. You have bad skin? How about see a specialist for $35 for once in your life and change the entire game for yourself. You're short? The shoes you choose can give you an illusion of an extra 1/5-1/4 of a foot. Your hair is ratty? Watch one youtube video on how to heat your hair with keratin and buy a $8 product. Those Victorias Sec…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 03:29 AM
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Yes, I know it's the same murderer. Did I ever claim the events were independent? Nooo. I said it happened to my friend and other beautiful girls with everything going for them who should have had white knights galore getting into army formation to fight this guy. No matter what you do, something will go wrong eventually and there will be very little you can do to make the world fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 03:13 AM
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10/10 strat op, make sure you read this comment twice
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 03:11 AM
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You are completely missing the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/18 08:47 PM
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You could use this argument about common sense for any men who didn't use a condom, got a woman pregnant, and then are bombarded with 18 years of child support. "Oh but she said she was on birth control!" I hear so often.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/18 07:21 PM
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The man who killed Morgan was her taxi driver. Let that sink in. The man who killed Hannah spiked her drink. If you have no compassion for these women because you think they deserved to be raped and murdered for trusting a man... well, you probably shouldn't be trusted. Thanks for the confirmation.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/18 07:17 PM
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Gotta love this kind of information. Thanks for sharing. It's certain worth looking into
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/18 06:57 PM
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Does a perfect person treat women like objects?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/18 06:56 PM
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You're a 10 so you know? You want to think that nothing bad happens to pretty girls. Tell your little spiel to Morgan Harrington, about how her army of white knights should have protected her when her taxi driver murdered her. Oh wait, you can't tell her that because she's not on this forum because she was killed. Explain Hannah Graham's murder: in the top uni for her program, in the most expensive sorority at her school, 19 years old and beautiful... could have her drink spiked and get dragged …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/18 06:55 PM
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9/10s aren't supermodels
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/18 04:15 AM
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Every woman would love rich charismatic 10 who always says and does the right thing and never looks or even thinks about another woman. I have this. Every man would love a doting but hot 10 whose never too tired for sex and always puts his needs first. I am this. I remember a few dudes telling me that they knew their current wives weren't right for them, but then went on to marry them anyways. I feel bad for those guys and their wives. They should just worked until they became the kind of qualit…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/18 04:14 AM
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You reject my experience then I reject yours. Once I've actually been raped and murdered I can't be on a forum "complaining" about it. I'm speaking up for someone that no longer has a voice. edit: lol obviously not
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/18 10:52 PM
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You don't know.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/18 10:52 PM
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I don't care that it wasn't you. You said I have an easy life because of my gender and I've indicated the opposite. I have a life where I can be raped and murdered if I'm too stupid. At least you can always physically defend yourself. Don't make claims you can't back up.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/18 10:49 PM
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It happened to someone that could have been me. I don't hang around those dudes on purpose, you goof. Your people are saying I'm not in danger. I am, because I'm weaker than these violent people with whom I share society. You are lonely while my physical safety is threatened. My life is not easy mode; you are the one with privilege.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/18 10:48 PM
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Nah, that started only about 4,000 years ago. Human history goes on for far longer. Well at least some of you are nice. I'm not sure that's condolence, but I'll take it over nothing when the deck is stacked against me.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/18 10:46 PM
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Virginia
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/18 10:45 PM
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I don't live in a safe environment. List of grievances: A man has shoved broken bottles between the snow and my car tires to try to strand me in a place with no cell reception. A man has literally grabbed me by the pussy when I was showing no skin except my face and hands: I was wearing bell bottom jeans and a thick sweater. When I pushed him away, he repeatedly kept grabbing me and none of the guys around me helped me; some even laughed or watched. A man has snuck into my room in my grandma's h…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/18 06:56 PM
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Let me suggest that if you're not excited to marry them, then they probably aren't the right person. Settling is dangerous.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/18 06:49 PM
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> you can still get other men to more than make up for that for you That's depending on their goodwill. I'm not going to argue with you that because there's laws stating that you can't murder me, the discrepancy in our strengths is now a world that favors me.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/18 06:48 PM
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See, you're only here to bitch. You don't care about the truth
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/18 06:46 PM
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Your gender had us so far shoved up under your heel that we couldn't vote until under 100 years ago. We couldn't have jobs 150 years ago. I can train for years and never beat a transitioned person in a wig at sports. I was born weaker and will always be weaker. That's not easy mode. You treat not having to be lonely like it's as important as the ability to keep myself safe. It's not.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/18 03:48 AM
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Interesting, because you exude bitterness when you tell this girl that her life is "easy mode," but then admit she can't reach the top shelf while you can. We're physically weaker than half the population; that's not easy mode. We depend on the goodwill of others; that's not easy mode. Check your privilege.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/18 03:18 AM
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First, I'm pretty sure it was Clinton who made it illegal to discriminate against women in healthcare. Second, it should be illegal to discriminate by race or gender in any way- even if the company is private.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/18 03:16 AM
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Wow, she's trying to live his life for him. I bet he feels stifled.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/18 02:58 AM
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Thanks for complaining at us. It's really attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/18 02:53 AM
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I worked my butt off in high school to get into a top university and once I was in that bubble, it took me until age 21 to find one guy who fits everything here plus a lot of criteria that other people find important such as wealth, advanced educational level, a kind family, and height. We got married at 24 after dating for 3 years. Something that's important is to be available when you find the right person. Don't be dating people who don't meet your standards just because they're into you and …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/18 11:43 PM
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Lady here kids from a previous relationship, because i don't want your ex in my life prior cheating, because it's a you problem cruelty towards animals or the powerless, because when you can't get something from them then you become an ugly person lying, because i can't trust you dependence, especially on me due to unwillingness to work- i'm a giver and won't tolerate a taker lack of proximity, because time spent together is important lack of fitness / hygiene, because beauty is important to me …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/18 09:21 PM
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To be honest, though, this is fine advice. If you care about starting a family then make finding a good mate a priority. Set your online dating profile to "serious about family" or what-the-fuck ever and actually sort through prospective matches. Does it really take away from career to spend 5 minutes a day choosing a match to go on one date per week with? I don't think so. Within 10 years of 1 date a week... hopefully you'll find someone compatible enough with whom to start a family. Otherwise …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/18 07:47 PM
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Maybe one day we'll want kids, but that day isn't now. Not all girls will tell you about their experiences. Once they can afford therapists, you'll be in the dark.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/18 03:32 AM
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Disease is the major consequence of casual sex. Otherwise, how can you tell someone was a slut unless they open their mouth and share their experiences with you? slut or not will get tested. Good for you. Now I can rest this conversation. All I'm saying is, you presented yourself as a slut. Then you say you want to swing later (as in you want to fuck others) and you don't want kids. You're not the type of woman most men here want to marry. Doesn't matter- I'm already married. Male perception bey…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/18 08:35 PM
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Physical strength is the answer, correct. We're complementary, not equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/18 07:50 PM
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So you think there will be no consequences. I hope you're right, for your own sake. If you don't understand how diseases and casual sex are related, you're not thinking hard enough. Who decides how much casual sex is "too much?"- you? But you can have some casual sex when it's available to you, as long as you don't reach a certain threshold? Let me give you one piece of advice- STD tests are awkward, but the right kind of people will be glad you ask.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/18 06:59 PM
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A lot of dudes are emotionally damaged from bad relationships, lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/18 06:36 PM
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Is it the same for women? Do they have more options for relationships and thus get better partners for relationships when they're willing to have more casual sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/18 06:32 PM
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You said sluts are for fucking. Do you think that the opposite of a slut wants all the slut's diseases that you'd bring to her? I would think not, since she's spent her life avoiding those diseases at the cost of her own pleasure.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/18 06:31 PM
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More common... in your experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/18 06:16 PM
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Maybe she's very picky.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/18 06:11 PM
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I don't want kids. I don't want you. I want my spouse; we are perfect for each other. A lot of people wouldn't be comfortable with him, but he's just what I want. A lot of people would look at me and think they want me, then be unhappy with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/18 06:10 PM
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I broke up with a guy when I saw his ugly aggressive side get out of control. Maybe some people want dudes fighting over them, but I like peaceful kind men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/18 06:07 PM
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Luckily I'm mostly interested in women and only very beautiful men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/18 06:32 AM
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Interesting theory. Can you come up with any more examples?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/18 06:31 AM
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> Men value a woman's youth and beauty above all else. Men's SMV decreases much slower than his female peers and might even increase whilst theirs decrease. You've already lost me, making these vast generalizations.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/18 04:06 AM
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You shouldn't date the OP's probably soon to be ex-fiance, then.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/18 01:47 AM
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I just can't agree with you about the wall. I don't see it in my personal experience, nor does it make biological sense. Saying that men age more slowly also doesn't make sense- on average they die from health complications almost a decade earlier than women. So aging affects their organs more... all except the skin? Hah. Why don't you link some of those skin studies?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/18 12:24 AM
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Nah, sexual peak is in the late 20's, but there's not a wall in the 30's. You would sound so much more convincing if you said the wall is menopause, 45-50. Then I would agree with you. Fertile women are beautiful at 20, 25, 30, 25, 40, 45. Well, enjoy your dead bedroom and divorce rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 11:42 PM
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Human beings are sexual, because for billions of years if we weren't sexual then our genetic line ended.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 10:51 PM
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The high libido girls who are religious in my life married very young. Props to your self control; you seem to take living your one life just the way you want very seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 10:48 PM
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That isn't real. No virgin until 25 is gonna become a slut for only her husband and suddenly develop uncontrollable lust; he'll just end up in a dead bedroom if he marries her expecting she'll change.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 09:19 PM
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It's the spray that numbs, so once you swallow it or spit it out and take a sip of water the numbness doesn't spread to anything it touches. I slept with whoever I wanted before and he didn't care or even ask, really- although, some of his best fap material has been times I've invited friends. He's not bi so I don't try to pull guys, so maybe that's a distinction you'd recognize. Maybe we'll swing one day, but I think that's something I'd have to work up to- find just the right kinda people and …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 08:14 PM
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You wouldn't fuck multiple women at once if you could?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 08:08 PM
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So sorry, you use subculture lingo of which I've never heard without explaining it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 08:08 PM
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Men aren't turned off by sluts. In fact, most men will leave if they've been dating a woman for 3 months and she hasn't given it up to him yet. Think about it: say she dates a new person every 4 months, never quite finding someone she wants to mother children with until age 30, and she was dating from 21 until 30: if she's giving these guys the sex they'd be expecting after being with someone for 2-4 months then she'll have a n count of 27 by age 30. Men love to date sluts. And they also love to…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 08:05 PM
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Good question. LPS, I think, is what you've been calling it: the ability to financially abandon your children.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 07:59 PM
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If there's no Roe v Wade then there's no grounds for legal abortion.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 07:53 PM
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Go on, go find a virgin that isn't one just because her standards are higher than her value. I married multi generational wealth, and it's because I bring him everything he never knew he wanted... not because I think deep throat numbing spray is for colds.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 07:52 PM
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I'm a biochemist, lol- I started taking stats classes when I ran out of other maths to take in high school. Self reports are biased. The first thing we learn in clinical world is that patients will LIE and LIE and LIE.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 07:48 PM
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Yeah, but this post is specifically talking about sex in club bathrooms and orgies. Can you do pot only in college and leave it behind? Yes, tons of people do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 07:47 PM
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In the US mothers only get a total of 12 weeks of maternity leave, including prior to the birth. When I was pregnant there were points where I couldn't even sit up for hours at a time because I would just see black and pass out. And even if they work until they start to give birth in the office, then that's only 3 months. Babies can't go to school at 3 months old and let their moms go back to work. The kid needs the two people who made him or her to support him or her... or we need a completely …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 07:44 PM
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I would be a misandrist if I was saying that women should be able to dump their babies into mens' arms and run away with the pool boy. I'm not trying to punish only men for having sex; I'm trying to protect the children, the future of our world, because some women will not be aborting no matter what and their babies are not at fault for the mothers stupidity. I can tell that you honestly believe what you're saying and that you look for reason to back it up; keep arguing with people on the intern…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 07:37 PM
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If she started having sex at 16 then having 20ish partners by 23 means fewer than 3 new people per year. She rejected a lot of sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 07:35 PM
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Yeah, don't listen to Spataru- she's got something going on that she's trying to get over. You can tell by her aggression.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 07:34 PM
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It's because you're not bisexual. My spouse's sexuality turns me on, and when there's another hottie involved... there are even more things you can all do together. It's not for everyone, but I've never been a jealous girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 07:33 PM
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You gotta read the article and watch the video
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 07:31 PM
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Most virgins aren't lining up to hop into bed with a man slut. Offer me a better proxy choice. Regression model does look for patterns: it averages the plotted points and creates a line representing them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 07:31 PM
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Exactly! It's not that they're a little high on an alcohol buzz that makes it rape. It's if they're blacked out and unable to answer basic questions or fight you off if you pressure them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 07:14 PM
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People cheat because they either don't have self control or don't care about their partner's needs. Maybe some people are addicted to random sex specifically, but it's certainly not all sluts. Some are just as happy to have sex only with one person every day instead of with a different person every day.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 08:12 AM
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You are prioritizing women’s philosophical integrity over men’s financial futures, and it’s simply unacceptable to me. Again, I find your position blatantly misandrist. I am preserving children's rights to not starve over men's financial success. No, simple condom use does not create a null likelihood of birth control failure. It creates a 4/100 chance of failure every year. You do not want to solo condoms or solo birth control pills or solo an IUD. Men and women together should be responsible f…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 08:11 AM
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Do you think mothers can do full time child care and work at the same time? For the first five years of every single mother's life, she'll be supported by tax payers until kid can go to school. That's not what's currently done- the fathers pay for their kids if they aren't doing the childcare. Why should the fathers be absolved of all responsibility for their young?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 07:49 AM
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She enjoys the oxytocin from getting fucked. New doesn't matter for some people; it's the pleasure button, not unlike getting your dicked sucked. Does it matter who sucks it? Maybe a little bit, but if you have someone willing to do it all of the time... why would you waste energy seeking out the same experience, just with a different person?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 07:46 AM
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If you aren't a virgin, what do you have to offer virgin women? Nothing. You're as worthless to them as they are unattainable to you. They have standards, and you fail their standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 07:42 AM
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yeah I'd be more worried about credit card debt or mean in laws
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 07:42 AM
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Virgins aren't gonna want you, slut fucker. Are you gonna lie to them? They'll lie to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 07:40 AM
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> Relationship sex is a chore. There I said it. Relationship sex is a chore that inspires the same dread as washing the dishes, mowing the lawn, or vacuuming. It's something you HAVE to do to fulfill your responsibilities. You feel obligated to have sex because he did something nice for you: he paid for the date, he bought you something, he's emotionally invested in you, etc. You don't want him to feel unloved or unappreciated, so you have to just grit your teeth and do your best to make him cum…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 07:39 AM
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People here are obsessed with male perception, and when men don't feel like special snowflakes they try to punish the girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 07:37 AM
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Women and men are very similar. Neither wants to feel lonely. Both crave physical touch and get frustrated when they're horny.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 07:36 AM
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Yes, did you read the article and watch the video?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 07:33 AM
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Government assistance? So you want bastards paid for by the tax payer? I'm saying that the child is punished so that the father can live more comfortably.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 07:32 AM
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I'm saying to help your girl double up on birth control. You pick something, she picks something. That something doesn't have to be abstinence. Together your risk of pregnancy is null if you're both using a >90% method. And nevermind the fact that our laws don’t even protect male rape victims from having to pay CS to their female rapists or victims or sperm theft or even victims of paternity fraud. Men's rights need attention. It's not just that some women have medical issues. It's any reason an…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 07:31 AM
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It's good that your ex friend is an ex friend, because that's insane. Stupid and careless sluts are bad; they spread disease. Otherwise sluts are fine and never hurt me. Yeah, but that's 10 glasses of wine in a sitting. She's not getting trained on or fucking 3 different dudes a week. Not to mention that casual sex is different to men than it is to women. Same as how a man needs more calories or can resist more alcohol. I have to disagree. Women want sex too, and they get frustrated when they do…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 07:23 AM
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I mean, are you assuming that her long term relationship won't involve sex??
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 07:20 AM
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The article and video
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 04:32 AM
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I didn't try harder for my first love, since we're talking anecdotes. My husband is worth so much more.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 04:18 AM
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It's punishment for going against male perception and male choice that only hurts the child.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 04:17 AM
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I'm not saying not to have sex. I'm saying to be careful with your sperm because it causes pregnancy even in women who are using the birth control they have available to them perfectly. Abortion is not an option for everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 03:37 AM
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I wouldn't assume that virgins don't know how to navigate relationships just because they don't have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 02:45 AM
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Your experience might not be unique to virgins-until-marriage, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 02:07 AM
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Most STDs aren't transmissible with condom use. The one exception is HPV, which only affects fertility in extreme outlying cases: if it's gonna give you cancer, which it most likely won't unless something's wrong with your immune system, then it'll be when you're too old to have children. Slut or not, you should screen every sexual partner for disease before you start fucking them... if you're smart.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 01:44 AM
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Certainly, but in those cases the partner cheating and bringing you HPV still indicates that sexually promiscuous behavior damages long term relationships. HPV vaccine only protects against 4 strains and there are hundreds. The intent of the study isn't to assign blame. It's to suggest a relationship between promiscuity and inability to maintain long term relationships. If we see, over and over, two people leave a marriage and neither of them has any forms of HPV, it suggests that people leave m…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 01:32 AM
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And also, maybe some different locations. One club in Brazil is too easy for first world men to dismiss as an outlier. Age groups are also worth investigating. Most of the communications that I do about this stuff is all online: I don't tend to have purple pill debates irl. So it's online forums that dismiss these experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 12:38 AM
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The dress tracks location of the grabs and strength of pressure to avoid false positives like brushing past people in a crowd.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 12:33 AM
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Yep, wish they'd gone with a bigger sample size and also created a male sample population. Lesbian and gay bars- wish I could see that, too. The dress apparently does account for strength of touch- so it's not going to track casual brushes through a crowded room: it tracks grabs. I'd love to see more studies like this or an expansion on the current study. So many people don't believe me when I claim that I'm grabbed dozens of times in a night out.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 12:32 AM
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A respectable study would look at something concrete and factual. How can we measure casual risky sexual behaviors without introducing bias? Let's use an antibody test to look at the number of HPV strains for which men and / or women test positive. HPV is transmissible even with condom use and and is only transmissible for about 8 months post initial infection in healthy people. Thus, people getting infected with it are sleeping with partners who have slept with someone else within about 8 month…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 12:27 AM
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Because even the sluts don't choose incels, which to the incels seems most unfair. Think about it: a slut is everything the incel will never inspire in a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 12:10 AM
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If it's self reported, then yep I reject it- if I was peer reviewing it I wouldn't view such a survey as good science. This is why psychology isn't hard science; so many things are constrained to the black box of a person's mind. I'm not sure what I think about the impact of casual sex on someone's ability to parent or foster a long term relationship. I haven't seen any studies that I respected enough to incorporate the findings into my world view. You're welcome to hit me with some new studies …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 12:08 AM
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This is all new to me, thanks for showing me this stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 12:06 AM
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Self reported counts mean very little to me. Self reported cheating means very little to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/18 11:53 PM
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What is "SSO" to you? R type and k type? I have no idea what you're talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/18 11:30 PM
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Do you think that a virgin wife will never have eyes for another or wonder what she missed? Sorry if I don't respect self-reported, "yeah I've totally cheated on my husband" studies, before you try to link any. Being a cheater and being slutty are two different beasts. Loyalty matters: paternity tests are cheap and easy and everyone should get them because anyone can lie about their sexual history or current sexuality and fool you. If she's a cheater, she's probably also a liar. More likely, a c…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/18 11:27 PM
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OP should let her go, like if he realized she wants kids and he doesn't. His life view and hers are not compatible. Obviously her sexual history has no bearing on her ability to raise children, but it does have bearing on her ability to raise children with her current partner almost like a religious man with an atheist wife. She should be with someone who respects her and he should be with someone he respects. Interesting he doesn't think he'd have had more one night stands if they were availabl…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/18 11:17 PM
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She's slimmer than half of america lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/18 10:30 PM
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I agree that Mexico is a patriarchy, still, but it's not a particularly good example of maternal lineage being erased in name.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/18 09:01 PM
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To each his own
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/18 09:00 PM
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Choose only one. Now let's go again.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/18 08:49 PM
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So strange. Here I was looking at the fact that 4/5 of people get married. Had no idea that the 1/5 of unmarried Chad harems is only the most hot hotties.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/18 08:38 PM
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You don't wonder if your genetic progeny will be living on Mars one day?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/18 08:37 PM
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Maybe we're from different regions.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/18 08:36 PM
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Not all of them, and your cells are still duplicating themselves. Do you not understand the conservation of genetic information?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/18 08:36 PM
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So chronically single? Or in polyamorous relationships in harems of other extreme hotties?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/18 08:35 PM
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Where are the hotter women?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/18 08:28 PM
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I thought they were complaining about not being able to get laid. Pursuing a woman that's said no to all the other guys, too, seems like it wouldn't result in the desired outcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/18 08:26 PM
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Is that true? Maybe some people are in denial, but this is like saying that women say "no" and mean "yes."
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/18 08:24 PM
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It's not what they discover about you. It's that your blood continues. Your cells: the energy that made you up continues its battle against entropy. Pieces that made you up shape the cognition of the future human race because your genes are good enough to perpetuate. All this user is saying is that the effect is tangible enough that a geneticist could see it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/18 08:20 PM
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You're wrong. I'm Mexican and we remember both maternal and paternal last names to the 8th generation, not infrequently.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/18 08:19 PM
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Your banner is perfect for your comment style.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/18 08:18 PM
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PTSD is just conception. Trauma is perception. It seems like you are downplaying the experiences of the women I quoted: seems like at least a couple of them maybe weren't great mental health candidates for abortions. But on the other side of the coin, do we want unstable women having children? Probably not. So what's the answer: abortions or no abortions? Let me suggest that men taking charge of their own reproduction will reduce the amount of times we have to ask that question.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/18 07:25 PM
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I mean, legally it's not unique because the government doesn't recognize rights of the unborn until >12 weeks into a pregnancy. The way I see it, there's not really a compromise: either you have a child or you don't have a child. In that way, abortion or no abortion is no child or child in the same way that a condom or no condom is no child or child... with maybe 4% less accuracy. Someone has to be making the effort to get no child if two people are having sex, and abortion is just another way a…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/18 07:22 PM
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You don't like information to validate your viewpoint?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/18 06:58 PM
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So you're rejecting a 2 million sample size study because it wasn't done within the last 10 years? I want to analyze your papers in context of what I know and uncover the truth. From your study: In multivariate logistic regression models, advancing maternal age increased risk for autism monotonically regardless of the paternal age. This does not surprise me. I'd expect most disorders to go up with both maternal and paternal age, tbh. In contrast, autism risk was associated with advancing paterna…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/18 12:42 AM
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You're a rare one. Thanks for the debate
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/18 12:24 AM
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Noises? I don't hear any noises.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/18 12:23 AM
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Yep, exactly. The whole "men can have kids at 80" argument is not just stupid- it's damaging to the gene pool.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/18 12:23 AM
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Sorry, I don't think that you'll be able to get a lot of people to invest in the idea that we should let babies die or live in destitution and poverty. It seems like taking several steps backwards to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/18 10:23 PM
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Ok, here are 3 more studies that suggest the exact same thing as the first one I linked. Notably the last study observes more than 2 million children. First, the 575% higher incidence of autism at paternal age >40 vs <30, because a whole lot of redpillers will argue that paternal age doesn't matter at all: Offspring of men 40 years or older were 5.75 times (95% confidence interval, 2.65-12.46; P<.001) more likely to have ASD compared with offspring of men younger than 30 years, after controlling…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/18 10:21 PM
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They won't die. They'll be the crime that ruins your experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/18 10:19 PM
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Nah. You're wrong. At least women won't poison the gene pool by pursuing 25 year old mates to give their babies damaged DNA. First, the 575% higher incidence of autism at paternal age >40 vs <30, because a whole lot of redpillers will argue that paternal age doesn't matter at all: Offspring of men 40 years or older were 5.75 times (95% confidence interval, 2.65-12.46; P<.001) more likely to have ASD compared with offspring of men younger than 30 years, after controlling for year of birth, socioe…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/18 10:19 PM
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Nah. You're wrong. First, the 575% higher incidence of autism at paternal age >40 vs <30, because a whole lot of redpillers will argue that paternal age doesn't matter at all: Offspring of men 40 years or older were 5.75 times (95% confidence interval, 2.65-12.46; P<.001) more likely to have ASD compared with offspring of men younger than 30 years, after controlling for year of birth, socioeconomic status, and maternal age. Advancing maternal age showed no association with ASD after adjusting fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/18 10:18 PM
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> thanks for typing all that but i'm not gonna read all that shit. Of course you won't. You're the one in denial.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/18 10:16 PM
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That's inaccurate. This study on parental age and disorder risk, controlled with young mothers and fathers, may help you see that the risk of autistic disorder is 0.16x more likely for every 10 years the father waits to have children compared to every 10 years the mother waits. Yes, this study suggests that between same-age mothers and fathers, the father brings a higher chance of autistic disorder to the table. Adjusted RRs for both maternal and paternal age were elevated for children with auti…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/18 10:12 PM
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If we change that, the children will suffer. They are our future.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/18 07:25 PM
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No, we live in a world where both men and women are equally legally responsible for child care and child support. If you go around seeding genetic progeny without discrepancy, then in today's world you will live with the consequences of your behavior and so will the woman foolish enough to have sex with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/18 07:18 PM
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What does that mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/18 07:16 PM
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First, ysk that women in their 40's are having more kids now than ever before. From wikipedia's page on age and female fertility: In humans, a woman's fertility peaks in the early and mid-20s, after which it starts to decline slowly. While many sources suggest a more dramatic drop at around 35,[1] this is unclear since studies are still cited from the nineteenth century and earlier.[2][3] One 2004 study of European women found fertility of the 27-34 and the 35–39 groups had only a four-percent d…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/18 07:12 PM
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If, for whatever reason, birth control efforts fail, women can still abort, and thus the decision to have a child rests entirely on them. Abortion is just another form of birth control. It's not accessible to every woman, and to those that could... there are some that shouldn't for a huge variety of reasons. Here are the decision points: The man and woman both decide not to get sterilized, because maybe one day they want kids or they don't want kids but aren't willing to take the steps to find a…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/18 07:08 PM
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Women keep their babies anyways. Abortion isn't for everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/18 06:59 PM
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I'm a Hispanic woman from a Hispanic nation.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/18 06:56 PM
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I don't think so, because it happened to me. 30,000 is too many unwanted kids. If it happened to you and your partner couldn't bear to have an abortion, you'd be on the hook for 18 years. In that case, it suddenly wouldn't be so acceptable any more. Take charge of your reproduction to help us both live the lives we want.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/18 05:44 PM
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Hey this is the paper that came to my mind, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/18 05:42 PM
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Men are 6x more likely to leave when their spouse gets cancer.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/18 05:42 PM
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Apparently when one spouse gets cancer, the gender of the healthy partner is the largest predictor of relationship survival. Men are 6x more likely to leave when their spouse gets cancer.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/18 05:41 PM
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Men at 40 have kids with more than 550% more autism than men at 25. Google scholar "paternal age defects." There are more than 300,000 papers talking about male age being responsible for every point mutation known to man.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/18 05:34 PM
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You know how to take charge of your life and take what you want from it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/18 05:33 PM
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I got pregnant because my husband wouldn't pull out, citing that I had an IUD and we shouldn't have a problem. Birth control takes two to have a negligible risk because even a tubal ligation only gives you a 299/300 chance of success. 60 million women with IUDs and a failure rate of 1/200 gives us 30,000 unwanted babies. Men need to take charge of their own reproduction. Even just withdrawal compounds the 1/200 with 4/100- better for everyone that doesn't want a kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/18 05:31 PM
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I wish that there were better birth control options for men. I really do. It would be better for both men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/18 05:13 PM
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HRA, really. For every "men shouldn't hit women" the other side of the coin is "women shouldn't hit men."
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/18 05:12 PM
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Don't devalue my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/18 05:09 PM
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Pregnancy doesn't require consent of the mother or father. Why not provide incentive to men not to get women pregnant carelessly? Your sperm is precious.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/18 05:09 PM
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> including some that had real issues with it that went on for years afterwards So then you know, it can be dangerous. > Can you cite me some data that shows a substantial number of women have been diagnosed with PTSD after having an abortion? I’d be very interested to see that. I wish I could, because I couldn't find any study that looked legitimate / was peer reviewed that said more than about 10-15% of women suffer trauma afterwards before I got one. That was one of the things I was concerned…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/18 05:07 PM
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> Yet, we both know that's not how this works. I'd agree if you were asserting that we can't expect people to be abstinent. I've known some men who were incredibly responsible with where they put their cum. I couldn't have gotten pregnant with them even if I wanted to. That's power, and it's a power that all men can have if they know how to take it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/18 04:47 PM
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The cost of raising a child here is what had me getting an abortion instead of sucking it up and raising the kid I didn't want. Most of my peers who were born without money can't afford their kids and live on welfare, eating extra extra large pizzas every other night because it's the only nutritionless calories they can afford to feed their families. None of them go to college because the families are in insane debt and saving for tuition is far off their radars. It's sad. I'd rather chew off my…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/18 04:46 PM
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Interesting that you'd say this: men are more willing to leave women who are more willing to carry a special needs baby to term. men who are more likely to have deformed sperm are more likely to spread their seed without commitment women who are more likely to have deformed children are more likely to push men away there is another variable that isn't included ...and then expect that women are more excited about old sperm, which is proven in over 300,000 scientific studies (google scholar search…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/18 06:23 AM
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People constantly grab me when I'm out at night. You can tell me I'm a liar and tell these people who conducted the study that it only happens in Brazil... but you're ignoring reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/18 06:20 AM
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My abortion was traumatic. I have flashbacks to gushing blood like a water faucet despite narcotic pain meds that should have dulled memory. Statutory rape victims shouldn't be paying child support. What was that judge thinking?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/18 06:18 AM
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Condoms break like my IUD failed, infrequently but given the absolutely outrageous millions of users... tens of thousands of bc fail babies are out there. What now? Abortion with only rape or incest? Are you playing games with me?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/18 06:14 AM
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I want to be surrounded by guys like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/18 06:13 AM
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Do you think women don't pay for abortions? My IUD was free under Obamacare, but I had to pay a lot of money to abort the baby I got pregnant with because my husband didn't think he should be responsible for birth control if I already had a 99.5/100 success rate bc method.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/18 06:12 AM
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I don't disagree with you, but a lot of girls are born ugly and only surgery would change that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/18 06:11 AM
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I really doubt that most women start going downhill at 20, but I'll let life experience take you down whatever route you go.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/18 06:10 AM
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This happens to me in America. I get grabbed every night that I go out, or even when I'm in any crowd- not even a sexualized night club.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/18 06:09 AM
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You will probably brainlessly repeat that we live in a democracy in the future, and in that case you're the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/18 06:07 AM
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You're fine with more violence? Crime is OK? No good role models for kids, who cares?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/18 06:06 AM
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So you're saying that women will be less likely to have sex with me if they aren't married to me because I can abandon them and my genetic progeny to poverty?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/18 06:05 AM
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If they don't have to worry about being baby trapped, wouldn't it encourage sex with strangers? Why would ability to absolve them self of all responsibility when they cum make them less likely to fuck someone who doesn't know their name?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/18 06:04 AM
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What happens when the dad lies about being willing to provide and then backs out past the abortion deadline, like mothers who swear they're on birth control and that they guy can nut inside them free of consequences? This is just a wheel of shittiness turning, one spoke on top and then another, but when your spoke is on top the kids are screwed too. The real best option is for sexually active dudes to take control of their their own prospective for reproduction. Not cumming inside the girl, alon…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/18 06:01 AM
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Apparently of the last 28 mass shooters in the US, 27 were fatherless sons. Weird they didn't just round to 30 and make it 27 of the last 30, or so I would assume since they used 28 instead and have an agenda. The point still stands, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/18 05:58 AM
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No, actually. This is a republic.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/18 05:55 AM
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Hope that tastefulnude doesn't reply, because your arguments aren't worth his.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/18 05:55 AM
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Nah, they desire 40 year old men. Women always want men within 4 years of their own age, statistically.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/18 05:02 AM
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Nope
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/18 05:01 AM
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I added a link to the first comment that suggests it might not just be all my experience. Good for you- you want to take so you give. That's the way you build the world you wanna be in.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/18 04:57 AM
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The reason I believe that men feel entitled to me is because some of them act like it. I'm afraid, and it's because I am bombarded by sexual violence. Apparently women are groped on nights out in Brazil about 40x per hour. I know you're treated like ugly women are treated. Men know that fat girls have it hard, and they don't care. One of the hardest things growing up was realizing that no one cares and people won't try to protect me. Real friends are so rare, and finding them across a gender div…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/18 04:29 AM
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50 year old women aren't usually fertile.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/18 04:24 AM
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I'm hitting 25 and I'm stronger than ever with less effort than ever- my skin is its clearest and brightest yet. I haven't hit a plateau yet. I'll let you know when I do. All I'm saying is that if you financially prioritize looking youthful like the women from the photos I sent... you will look youthful for half a century. I'm not saying everyone should- only those that care about looking youthful should put effort into it. Good luck with your PhD, hope you get where you wanna go.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/18 04:23 AM
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So between 40 and 45, you can get pregnant 2-3x statistically? How many babies do you want, exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/18 04:21 AM
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Wish this was the top response, but half of these people don't have the attention span.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/18 04:20 AM
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How does that make any sense at all? Men who don't wanna be dads only sleep with women willing to get abortions.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/18 04:18 AM
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Abortion is just a form of birth control. Men have birth control options available to them. Just like I can't force you not to get a vasectomy or to get a vasectomy, you can't force me to get an abortion. You not getting a vasectomy creates your own potential fatherhood, so why should only I be responsible for your sperm? If I'm already on birth control and I get pregnant, it's your fault because you shirk your own responsibility to not get me pregnant. Once you have a kid, that kid is gonna die…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/18 04:17 AM
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Actions have consequences, sometimes even if you're a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/18 04:11 AM
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I got pregnant with an IUD, which is supposed to be the best form of birth control available. What part of 99/100 is confusing to the OP, I wonder? Every year, 1/100 gets pregnant if the guy feels like birth control is only the woman's responsibility. How many women do we think are on the pill? Millions, probably. Men and women together are responsible for birth control. A man that doesn't use a condom is as stupid as a woman who doesn't get an abortion, if they don't want to be parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/18 04:10 AM
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boo
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/18 02:21 AM
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Is there a reason that women would be desperate?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/18 02:19 AM
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You have a beautiful honestly about you. Are you happy the way you are now?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/18 02:17 AM
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Doesn't make much biological sense, does it?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/18 02:14 AM
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Maybe 50 year old women are just better at forming relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/18 02:13 AM
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Maybe 50 year old women are just better at relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/18 02:13 AM
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You have to own a patch of land to grow beans and raise chickens. I will finish my studies here with zero cost, THEN get out of this hell hole. Then you've already got a plan. What are you complaining for? Out of curiosity, where are you going instead?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/18 02:13 AM
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What is "interest" to you? Marriage proposals from women? Old ladies aren't getting wetter over dudes at 50 than they did at 25. Just the way your balls are going to be producing less sperm, their lady bits are going to be begging for dong less. If you're over 40 then the best is behind you, sorry to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/18 11:31 PM
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No, 25 year old men are most desirable. They are at their physical peak. If your wife could magic you into your 25 year old fitness... she would.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/18 11:29 PM
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What is "interest" to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/18 11:29 PM
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Post a study for me. Show me how female fertility at 35 is superior to a 15 year old's. You won't be able to, because half of women's cycles at 15 are anovulatory.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/18 11:28 PM
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Cooking with fresh ingredients is more expensive here; can't bake air. I'm half Mexican and my mother was an anchor baby. It seems you think that route to entry is beneath you and you'd rather wait 16 years in line for your youth to expire so you have a shred of a chance at entering a proper capitalist nation. You're playing the game of the system owners and they will never just let you rise; you take the life you deserve. What you're telling me is all excuses. You tell me why your life is hard …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/18 11:27 PM
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I busted my ass for my entire life to get into a top uni and worked throughout the entire ride to afford it. I ate fucking corn chowder from cans for 3 months straight at one point. Now I have a good income. It's not my fault that some people have no opportunity and it's not my fault that those with opportunity sometimes squander it. No gym? Go for a run outside. Or better, get a job at a warehouse and you make $15/h and won't need a gym. No money? Time to do an honest assessment of your skills …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/18 12:50 AM
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Botox is actually great. You should try it. For some it's to hide aging; for me it's to ensure that my stress face doesn't become my permanent face. Your beauty is in your youth, too. So sad you can't see it, because I'll be better off than you by 30 with all the prevention, vitamins, gym sessions, ... You can lie to yourself that you'll stay pretty for longer, but honestly the longer you deny it the worse you're doing to your own self. Realize that no one looks good at 100 and maximize your hea…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/18 12:47 AM
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It's monday.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/18 12:45 AM
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No, men lose beauty as they age and we care about that a lot. After 40, we both start losing beauty. Men as much as women. Both become ugly and old.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/18 12:45 AM
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So women give out more interest as they age? You make no sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/18 12:44 AM
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I wouldn't want a woman over 40 hitting on me, either, and it's because the age gap is creepy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/18 12:44 AM
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Nah, they marry their classmates in undergrad or medical school because they relate. The one dating a kid 14 years younger is rare and probably an internet creep like u/PuleaSpartaru69.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/18 12:43 AM
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If you think women look worse than men at 25 then you're gay or a woman. 35? Gay or a woman. 40? Gay or a woman. Once you start getting towards 50 I might say, the fertility of women is gone so man or woman- there's very little difference. It supposedly takes the average 45 year old guy >2 years to knock up a 25 year old woman when it takes a 25 year old guy 2 months. Fertility is beautiful. Womens' fertility is fairly consistent across its entire duration. If there is a wall, it's called "menop…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/18 12:42 AM
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I bet you're the same kinda guy that says timid inexperienced women are great. Maybe age takes beauty eventually, but fertility is what gives beauty and fertility doesn't change much between 17 and 27 and 37.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/18 12:36 AM
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wow great argument thanks for that
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/18 12:35 AM
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I want anal. You don't. Then we don't do anal and maybe I leave you for someone who does. End of story. If you did anal with someone else, that only matters if I'm insecure.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/18 12:34 AM
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Had no babies using only withdrawal and rhythm method for 15 months. Swapped to IUD and got pregnant. I've got the most interesting ultrasound pic with both a pregnancy and an IUD in the shot. Dudes have gotta realize they're half responsible for anything that happens, and if I'm the only one using birth control then they're 100% responsible if I get pregnant. Between two adults using the individual birth control available to them properly, we should never have a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/18 10:06 PM
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Older men however, are more desired than their younger counterparts. No, straight women are always interested in men. Men peak physically around age 26. Maybe they get funnier or more pleasant or more generous with age, but that isn't gonna wet the panties like chiseled jaw and 6 pack abs. They receive more interest from women of their own age than their younger counterparts. Maybe more willingness to marry because those women want to have babies, but they don't get more sex than younger people.…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/18 04:30 PM
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The existence of young men with status tells me that if you think male status increases with age then you missed your peak.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/18 04:28 PM
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Stop personally attacking me and post your "multitude of factors," make a post and link it here, or shut up.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/18 04:27 PM
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Women's breasts and butts sag if they repeatedly gain weight and lose it or drop fitness as a lifestyle. The same thing happens to those male abs and chiseled jaw line, which in case you had any doubts I'll have you know that we care very much about those and also crows feet on men will never be hot. Don't fool yourself by telling me how your bald spot is gonna make you look like a rugged silver fox that 21 year olds are gonna wanna rub hot oils into. "Silver fox" is only as hot as "cougar" beca…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/18 04:24 PM
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Why do I care for the rest of you, once you pass your physical peak? Remember that I'm a Millennial and I don't need your wallet to have a house or avoid starvation. I can go to a sperm bank if I want babies with an alpha male. I don't need anything about you, except the pleasantries that you bring to my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/18 04:17 PM
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All I'm using them to show is that there is no wall with healthy lifestyle, effort, and preventative maintenance. I'm not going to post photos of my friends or their parents, so unfortunately you're gonna start looking around in your own life if you want to see more examples.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/18 04:16 PM
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Yeah, show up at any state uni or private school ranked >50 and they're everywhere: dudes born with more money than your mom and dad make in a year.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/18 04:14 PM
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I'm not going to post pictures of my real life friends. What I'm doing here is showing you that money, health, and effort have 40 year olds looking two decades younger. And for the record, the hottest days in Russia this year were in the 70's farenheit while the coldest days in Egypt were in the 60's farenheit. Anyways, you can whine about how every single one of those women is just an exception with perfect genes and a billion surgeries... but then you'll still look at older male celebrities an…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/18 04:13 PM
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Ok, I can get on board with this idea given about a 10 year variation for genetics and environment. Some people get fat starting at 13 or 16 and never go back to their level of fitness in high school. Some men and women start lifting weights at 25 and are complete hardbodies at 33. In my personal opinion, it starts getting harder to attract mates when your reproductive capabilities start to decrease, which for both men and women is around 35-40. But I also appreciate what modern medicine, money,…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/18 04:08 PM
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Because many of my buddies are only getting fitter going towards 30, although there are a few who have gone full ham. None of them are suddenly hideous. Even my 55 year old mom is stunning and gets stared at by babies and hit on by men her age pretty much everywhere she goes. No, you're wrong. There are plenty of wealthy and successful men aged 20-30. Only the absolutely exceptional pro athlete is over age 30. Einstein was 25 when he published his world-changing papers; most STEM PhD students ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/18 04:05 PM
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Well I'm not gonna pull from the facebooks of my friends, haha. Botox only costs ~$40 lasting half a year and preventing any wrinkles from muscle movements made during that time. Making time for fitness even with an office job isn't that hard if fitness matters to you. Getting a facial to keep your skin clear and bright is only $50-$75. Most of those women didn't get $50k mandibular surgeries- it's just quality maintenance and the vast numbers of women who try and succeed show that it's the rule…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/18 04:00 PM
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Women aren't more attracted to men as they get older and disinterested when they're younger. This is the classic heartthrob.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/18 05:09 AM
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For every single man there's a single woman. You legally can't marry more than one and we have roughly the same number of each gender in the first world. You didn't get action when you were young and now you think everyone else lives the same life. The data is your own personal experience, and I can assure you that young men and women fuck like rabbits. Young chicks are obsessed with young guys that look just like these.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/18 05:08 AM
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So do young women not have sex? Or are they having sex with each other? I'm confused about what you think the young womens' relationships and sex lives look like if they aren't very attracted to men until they get older. No, see the thing is that young women aren't attracted to you. You tell yourself it'll be different one day. I hope that it is for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/18 04:59 AM
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So then are 25 year old women attracted to each other? How come they aren't interested in men? Do you actually honestly think that 25 year old women aren't into 25 year old men like 35 year old women are into 35 year old men? Maybe the women just feel biological pressure to pop out kids, if the stats are showing they desire marriage more? But that has nothing to do with the men and everything to do with the women. You are the one who makes no sense, and it's because your desire to be wanted by w…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/18 04:57 AM
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This data didn't track the same 50 year old women at 25 and observe their attraction to 25 year old men. There are generational differences for which this can't possibly account. When the 20 year old girls are dating 20 year old guys, unless you have women selectively aborting male children so that older dudes pair up with younger girls... you've got the same pool of people dating each other. If a 50 year old woman is dating 50 year old guys, how is she having more trouble than the 45 year old w…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/18 04:54 AM
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No, women always want men their own age. If women want him more as he ages, it's because he improved himself more than the average dude. Do older women just get more horny? Are there fewer men, that each individual man gets more attention? Are 20 year old women ditching the college athletes and clustering around the balding 35 year old while 35 year old women get pushed to the side? What, exactly, do you think is happening that all men get hotter as they get older? In reality, they don't. If you…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/18 04:51 AM
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You know nothing, Workaholico. How many times do I have to tell you that the wall is a revenge fantasy and everyone gets old? 38 year old Adriana Lima infinitely hotter than 21 year old VS model 81 year old woman 43 year old actress hotter than a pack of her much younger costars 45 year old 54 year old 44 year old 49 year old 51 year old 54 year old 52 year old 57 year old But please, tell me how super approachable all these old hag women are because the wall hits at 25-35 and how you expect to …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/18 04:39 AM
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Some guys peak young: take the high school athlete who gets a beer belly by 25. Some dudes peak old: the lil fat boi who got a good career and looks sleeker in a suit and tie for his stock broker job.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/18 04:21 AM
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You lost me at the title. I'm a woman. Men don't peak at 50. I'm in my early 20's and 50 year old men hitting on me is absolutely disgusting and nothing dries my vagina faster than bald heads and wrinkly saggy jawlines. The dude in the photo is heinous to picture in my bed. You can cite every stat you want, but my buds and I do not want to fuck that guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/18 04:18 AM
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Then you can say those same things about women. Fitness (except the type that get obese), femininity, style, sophistication, independence, charisma, sociability, etc, all tend to improve as women get older. But once I say it that way you realize that it's not real for either gender- we all know peak natural fitness when we see it and it's the age 26 Olympic women's volleyball team and age 26 men's pro football league. Some screw it up sooner with tanning and drinking and shitty self-care. Some e…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/18 04:16 AM
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Misconception1: Starting at age 13 / 16 /18 / 21 / 23 women only get uglier / less valuable. I really don't understand that one because irl even super mysogynist Trump thinks that women peak at 30. Why the obsession with college girls? Misconception2: Older men are more desirable. Everyone knows fitter men are hotter and older men find it harder to be fit, so I'm not sure how they got this idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/18 02:03 AM
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Show me the studies, because that upper range is different from anything I've ever read.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/18 02:01 AM
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Act like they do. If they're aloof, you be aloof. If they're friendly, you be friendly. Etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/18 12:00 AM
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The interesting thing is that the pool of men that won't be with high N count girls end up selecting for a pool of dishonest girls with high N counts, among a few other types of girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/18 11:59 PM
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He or she is tainted if they're carrying diseases from past partners AKA if their old sex life is literally dangerous to me. Once you take them down to the free clinic and get the green light, the past is only the present if one or more of those old partners are still around.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/18 11:57 PM
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Every study ever shows that women prefer men within 4 years of their own age.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/18 11:52 PM
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Nah, it means she wasted her youth on a dude with no youth to give like a young man with a cougar. There's too many rich young men to settle for a rich old man.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/18 11:50 PM
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At 18 I remember being disgusted by a 36 year old dude who was trying to buy me a drink. "If you had a kid with your high school girlfriend, I could be your kid. If you get me a drink I'm gonna take it back to my friends and give it to a frat brother." He still bought me a drink. I didn't drink it with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/18 11:50 PM
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False. MILF is more popular than teen in 2017 Porn Hub stats. Even hentai is more popular than teen.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/18 11:49 PM
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Yeah, I'm sure she'll be just fine. Girl wears multi million dollar bras. VS is known to keep girls on until >38 years and she's only 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/18 11:45 PM
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You're onto something. If some woman doesn't want to do anal anymore then she isn't entitled to the dudes that want anal and will reject her for a girl that does anal. The thing is that dudes who want anal need to reject the woman that won't do it for them instead of sticking around and pressuring her into an unhealthy relationship that will damage them both. Learning that your girl used to do anal for someone else when she always refuses it for you is a fine reason to leave her if you're the br…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/18 11:41 PM
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I'll try to keep my mind open.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/18 11:37 PM
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They're forced to develop themselves in more ways, where pretty girls can get by being boring, selfish, and having no skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/18 09:12 PM
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You say "finally realized" like they don't know they're treated differently.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/18 08:37 PM
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I seek out buddies for companionship. If they clearly want more then I create distance to avoid hurting them unless it's one of those "I would if you would" kinda small crushes that the person obviously has well under control. I'm having fun when my friends are having fun, basically; being surrounded by miserable horny dudes isn't a thing most women want imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/18 02:26 AM
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Wives work while husbands get degrees, too. We better each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/18 12:16 AM
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Humans are flawed. Information wants to be free. Beautiful sentiment, thanks for contributing
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/18 04:29 AM
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Wow, fascinating. He's got such a positive outlook where he seems to actually love his wife and take being a man seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/18 04:27 AM
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My sex life is delightful and you're too insulting for me to want to discuss it here.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/18 04:26 AM
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No one owes me sex, lol- not even my husband. Teasing is sexy, so I'll just agree to disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/18 12:37 AM
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I'm not throwing them a cookie. I'm asking people like you what you think. Your embittered answer disappoints me.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/18 12:11 AM
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A sudden makeout session would turn me on and doesn't have to end in sex. Seeing my spouse just reading a book when I came back in would be hilarious.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/18 12:10 AM
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So I agree that men's rights are utterly lacking when it comes to access to their children. What else about divorce court is hell for men?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/18 11:49 PM
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The user claims the purpose is to inject mystery into the relationship and to allow her alone time to miss him. It honestly sounds like a completely fantastic idea to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/18 11:40 PM
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So then why are you here if you can't accept even the best advice they can give without demonizing them all? To talk sense into them?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/18 11:38 PM
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It's not advice for women, though. It's advice for men. It's not lecturing me and you to be complacent, submissive, and lazy in our relationships; it's lecturing men to be the opposite of those things. They didn't create it just like they didn't create the gym, but they're still advocating for it on one of their top posts of all time. Seems healthy, doesn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/18 11:28 PM
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I'm not asking you to argue against it. We can agree with red pill users sometimes. Good thoughts
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/18 11:26 PM
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It is what it is. I'm a niche kinda girl and need a niche kinda guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/18 11:05 PM
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You're on here claiming the opposite. I offer a half dozen fair examples of women totally ignoring male perception and you don't counter with any valuable logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/18 11:05 PM
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You're just wrong. I want to look professional for presentations; I want to look beautiful at cocktail parties. It's not about dudes or even about comfort in soft frumpy sweatpants. I've worn heels to a sorority cocktail party with all women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/18 09:46 PM
2

So... you've lived life as both a man and woman, then?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/18 09:44 PM
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When you take off your shirt for a summer 5 mile run outside, is that a sexual urge? All this time I've been assuming that people wore whatever it is that they wear because they're thinking of themselves, like how little fun it is to get into a crowded sweaty dance floor in 3 layers of clothing. BUT REALLY IT TURNS OUT ALL THOSE WOMEN ARE JUST THINKING ABOUT MALE PERCEPTION. Silly me. Now I realize that when we wear makeup to work in basement billing offices with only all other women, it's becau…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/18 09:42 PM
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Yeah, honestly... it's so close to 0% that it may as well be 0. Most people want me when they look at me, but I'm not a good match for most people. And most people aren't a good match for me. I nexted so many hundreds and hundreds of people before finding someone who suits me.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/18 09:32 PM
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What part of "partners look for the win-win" did you get that from?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/18 09:29 PM
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Believe it or not, that's extremely common. Periods are actually debilitating. BC pills functionally prevent hormonal periods- you can't even use the rhythm method as a secondary form of birth control when a woman is on hormonal birth control because her cycle dne.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/18 11:38 PM
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I'm 115 lbs. I can't fight a 200 lb person without an equalizer.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/18 11:36 PM
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Right, exactly. Women should guard their hearts like men do. Just because you give him sex doesn't men he owes you anything. Just because he takes you out to dinner doesn't men you owe him anything. Dude could be a total selfish pig like guy from the link and you'd have no idea unless you carefully screen your sexual partners... as you should, because sex even with a trustworthy partner is risky business. Chick from the link is gonna learn the hard way, and she's gonna be smarter next time becau…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/18 11:19 PM
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Fewer real fights than I can count on one hand, yeah
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/18 11:12 PM
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fair
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/18 09:15 PM
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I carry a handgun now.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/18 09:13 PM
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Like a roundhouse kick? Most men are much taller than most women. Do you honestly think that women can expect to fight better than men often enough to make it a viable risk?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/18 07:25 PM
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She kisses back
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/18 07:23 PM
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honorable aspirations
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/18 07:23 PM
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bless you
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/18 06:53 PM
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Lying there, not acting at all and just being acted on.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/18 06:52 PM
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If you're married to a partner and that partner demands monogamy and then decides that his sex life isn't her problem... do you see the problem with that? In a way, it's like she cages him and then doesn't feed him. You're saying that in a fair world a man can be expected to accept functional celibacy because his lover decides that she doesn't want to be a lover, but still wants to stay married. I reject your idea of a fair world. Any man who thinks his healthy sex life is important should leave…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/18 06:26 PM
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It's important to read cues. Is she kissing you? Touching you? Is she locked up and starfishing? "Are you into this?" Is such an easy question to ask. "Do you like this bb?" Sex is an interaction, not masturbating with someone else's body.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/18 05:41 PM
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Men will always punch harder. Testosterone builds muscle 4x more easily. When I slapped a guy for being inappropriate, he threw me against a wall and gave me a black eye. If the guy has boundaries with violence as poor as boundaries with sex... he might punch back.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/18 05:40 PM
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Yeah, moving and acting isn't freezing. Unless he was violent or coercing her somehow... that's not rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/18 05:38 PM
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Some people are jaded and act out. Some people are born fucked up.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/18 05:27 PM
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Having a healthy sex life is important to you or it's not. Pick one.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/18 05:27 PM
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If your needs aren't being met and your partner doesn't see your problems as their problems... you don't have a true partnership. Partners look for the win-win at best and the compromise at worst.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/18 04:32 PM
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Yeah, TRP is a sexual strategy. Married men in monogamous relationships have only two reasons to touch it: a.) they're looking for extra marital affairs or b.) they have less of a partnership and more of a parent-child relationship with their wife that has to be maintained with exhausting sociopathic games
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/18 02:38 PM
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imo trp is more of a topic for therapy than to seduce a date- what would you want her to say, or just to have her listen? Can you imagine what she'd be thinking? Go ahead and try to put yourself into her head; you can even type out what you'd say here, if you want to brain storm. As far as confessing your feelings for her... you are sexual and go on dates, right? If yes, then you should be clear to move forward and suggest a relationship or tell her you care for her or whatever. If your feelings…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/18 02:29 PM
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That you wrote this at all proves you can't see us in professional light.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/18 04:46 AM
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So sorry, you can't control me.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/18 01:35 AM
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> I see the purple pill as a new start which might liberate me.. I like your ideas here. The purple pill isn't as much purple as it is a swirl of red and blue. What you're gonna like about it is challenging a lot of your more harmful assumptions. You will reason your way to a healthier understanding. > in about 7 months she's going to enroll to a university Let me suggest that you don't get more serious with someone if your proximity to them is going to decrease. The number one factor in relatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/18 12:21 AM
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I don't necessarily disagree with you. I'm curious what you think for long term relationship couples, such as married people: how should sex be approached if the man and woman don't want kids?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/18 12:02 AM
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I can't think of any female friends I'd describe as hideous, honestly. When the women don't naturally have it, they seem to work on appearance more while dudes work on charm and resume.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/18 12:01 AM
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I've got a couple of hideous buds that I would introduce to my sisters if they lived in the same region because some of those guys are funny, brilliant, providers, sociable, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/18 11:37 PM
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There's no room for other people in your life, then. Get a dog and work on yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/18 11:32 PM
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There's usually not one person by himself in a relationship, either. My entire point was to foil the user's poor metaphor. You can make comparisons between anything and a huge number of them would be utterly valueless.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/18 11:30 PM
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The correct use of contraceptives is the careful part; there's no too much that's careless about it until you start raw dogging. You could say that driving a car is careless because you might crash; birth control is the driver's licence. Knowing your partner well is the car insurance; if you do crash, will she metaphorically abort or expect you to pay for kiddo's private school? Perhaps it is "careless" that many people don't verify insurance, figuratively.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/18 10:38 PM
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A ship might have only one captain, but the US government has 3 branches for checks and balances. Your meaningless metaphor is just a jack shit poor excuse for wanting to have total control in your relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/18 10:27 PM
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Men weren't always just killed. They were frequently enslaved. Unlike modern day America, some historical groups recognized the value of human labor when they see it. Reasons why a conquering tribe might keep women and not men: a.) Women are much easier to enslave because uprising is less likely due to physical strength differences. b.) Women can be objectified for use as rewards for good soldiers: great job killing people, now you get a wife so you can be a man and start a family. Even the anci…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/18 10:18 PM
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You're talking to someone that got pregnant with an IUD in place, haha. I know that no birth control is perfect.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/18 09:58 PM
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They maybe "connection-less" is what you meant. Reckless specifically implies lack of care for consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/18 07:24 PM
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Good edit. I have a quick question about word choice: how is safe sex "reckless"? The consequences of sex are broadly known and most people specifically do take care to avoid disease and pregnancy. Would "frequent" get your point across better?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/18 07:15 PM
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It's not just white girls. Women like these with genetic lottery genes will never be alone if they don't want to be, not even in old age. These are the chicks that struggle. Dudes don't realize they exist and have the same problems as ugly men because to the male gaze they're basically invisible.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/18 07:11 PM
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> including casual reckless sex, are nothing to be ashamed of This is the part where I stopped reading your post. No one advocates careless sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/18 07:07 PM
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Nah, wrong. Google "models with ugly husbands" and have fun realizing it's not the way the dudes look: it's whether they've got something cool going on like being famous musicians or having party mansions for these chicks to explore.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/18 05:59 PM
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Also it's gay men that rule the fashion world in some circles. But check out the number of subscribers to r/petite. There's almost 100k of them. You and I both prefer r/bustypetite, though, and that sub has nearly 700k subscribers. So you're onto something, but some men have a wider spectrum of what they find attractive and a pretty face can override tiny tits.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/18 05:54 PM
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Another important idea: whether that person cries on your shoulder, also, or is always the person giving.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/18 02:12 AM
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Crying at people is gonna take from the emotional bank account. I hope that doesn't sound calloused, but being strong for others is draining.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/18 01:56 AM
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Ex1. You're vulnerable if I ask how you're doing and say, "Honestly, not well. My mom died and it's been hard on me. I miss her." You're needy if you try to turn me into your mom's functional replacement. Ex2. You're vulnerable if you tell me you fear loneliness and we have a mutual conversation about it that ends in you coming over. You're needy if you show up to my house uninvited because you feel entitled to my company because of your emotional... dare I say..? Needs. tldr: when your insecuri…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/18 01:11 AM
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It's almost like different women have different ideals. You approach the way that you prefer, barring overt creepery, and the right woman will be compatible with you. Plenty of chicks go to night clubs to pick up partners; to them, getting an advance STD check doesn't matter and they aren't scared to be alone with a stranger. To other women that thought is utterly horrifying and they'd rather marry the family friend they've known since age 15. If you're commenting this way because you want to ta…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/18 09:07 PM
1

Be the change you want to see in the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/18 07:43 PM
2

Mexicans are thriving modern day Native Americans in all their diluted white-mixed glory. My mother was put in the dunce seat in elementary school for speaking Spanish. It's not Mexicans with a history of wiping out other cultures.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/18 07:07 PM
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Haber was first used industrially in 1913 in... Germany. It apparently didn't come to the US at all until almost 1920, and then took decades to wax into a massive industry. I agree that GMO's are important, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/18 07:05 PM
1

Take a step back and read your comments. You're so out of line that you seem like a troll.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/18 05:52 PM
1

You've got a red banner. So instead of a bitter man, you're a bitter woman. So hostile!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/18 05:26 PM
1

How do you meet friends?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/18 05:25 PM
2

Trust is important. It's hard to trust a dude in a pack of aggressive guys at a night club, for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/18 05:23 PM
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We don't have to consume less. We just have to consume more smartly. Chemist here. The big thing that's changed since OP's 1927 is that we now have (since about the 1940's) the Haber process, a way to pull nitrogen from the atmosphere and use it as fertilizer. An approximated 80% of nitrogen in humans now comes from this process. World hunger is solved, but some people just can't afford the solution because of their localized poverty. The real problem is the class imbalance and lack of opportuni…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/18 05:19 PM
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Yeah, the thing I don't understand about wanting to deport young, willing, and able workers is that it's wasting a powerful resource.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/18 05:15 PM
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No, not all Africans, Middle Easterners, and Asians. Just the women: give them access to birth control and education and then suddenly they'll be just like us. Few women want to wreck their bodies and repeatedly risk death popping out dozens of kids they can't afford in the 3rd world.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/18 05:14 PM
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You're gonna live there too, you bitter man, you.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/18 05:12 PM
2

He says that women sleep with men who make them feel desired. If that's true, then why do men use "negging" as a sexual strategy?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/18 05:11 PM
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A whole hell of a lot of people absolutely adore the flat butt white girl look and the androgynous boy girl look. It's girl next door stuff, but you like the spicy Latina proportions across the street. I accept that you have personalized preferences if you can accept that others do, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/18 05:11 PM
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He's actually a key player in a very meta raid group. Guy is high value in that sub culture, but I'm not sure how he presents irl. Baby Boomers gave Millennials the trophies. It's a societal problem. We can be the change we want to see; tell them they worked hard instead of that they were just born so smart.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/18 01:29 AM
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What you told me with your reply about social relativism is that you think society isn't natural. You dropped an assumption that animals wouldn't do what we do. Society is what's most natural, and the intelligent mind can rise beyond the base nature of our current system because society is the system. Power lies where we believe that it does: money, church, modesty, strength, etc. We can be more considered than buffalo.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/18 12:51 AM
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Let us know how hitting on older women goes! Let me suggest that 35-45 is going to be more serious about finding a mate because they're family oriented. As in, they want to have kids soon (if they're in the 4/5 that wants to have kids) and are looking for the sign, where the younger women have time and grew up on Disney dreams where they don't meet their future husbands in subway stations. It's not about their consciousness of their own youth; women don't notice that at those ages because they'r…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/18 12:05 AM
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Do you think buffalo don't have a form of society? Elephant bulls raised without male role models apparently behave very differently than those with male role models. Let me suggest that those buffalo were taught to behave that way because there was a reward to that kind of behavior. Wonder if they'd do it if they were raised in isolation from birth, then thrown into a herd.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/18 12:01 AM
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I'm sorry society has put you into a place where we define you so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/18 11:37 PM
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Yes, you're right that it's subjective. I'll try to help break down the definitions of things like "respect" here. So since we're talking about men, I'll try to stick to forms of respect that are more exclusive to men than women. Forms of respect that I've noticed tend to be reserved for men: Speaking loudly, being listened to - I've never seen a dude go nuclear faster than when I muted him in a discord mid-rant. This guy was telling me how my approach to teaching some noobs to our mutual online…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/18 11:32 PM
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Thanks for sharing your insights. Do you think there's a fetish for older women, obviously aged 40-55? What is that called?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/18 11:18 PM
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It pokes a hole in OP's logic
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/18 11:09 PM
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So if the top paid supermodels in the world who sell sexy lingerie aren't sexy to you, then who is? At this point I know you're arguing just to argue, but I'm curious.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/18 04:52 PM
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Yeah, there are so many assumptions here that just thinking about addressing them all makes me tired. Good catch. I'll get the others. > Let me preface this next part by saying that it's common knowledge that whole point of attraction is creating offspring. Nah. 1/5 of us doesn't have kids; I personally know plenty of people that have aged out with no kids and I plan to have no kids so I can live my life out as a DINK traveling with my mate. > And how can a women know that a man isn't just inter…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/18 05:49 AM
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Same exact thing here. Both 18-20.5 and 20.8-21.75 were huge dry spells between people I was serious about. Gotta wait for the trust and disease results because getting pregnant with someone who doesn't want what you want would be donkey dicks.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/18 05:33 AM
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Wow, you told me
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/18 04:16 AM
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You have no idea what you're talking about. These chicks look the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/18 03:47 AM
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Most Interesting Man is catering to the male perception, like most things in our society. You are the one who cares about control over girls and appearance of firm tits. This is what teen - college aged women like: Justin Bieber and Zach Effron. Men don't look good when the collagen structures in their faces start to crumble, but it happens to everyone and men run the world. Of course you're going to see men grasping at straws like RICH or EDUCATED or INTERESTING or RESPECT once your youthful be…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/18 02:28 AM
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Jon Millward is a pop media critic. This is actually a fascinating read- thank you. I think I found the part you were talking about: > Well, I found out by sampling 100 movies from the database and viewing the profiles of the women who starred in them. The average age of a MILF in porn is thirty-three. 20% of the ‘MILFs’ were 20–25 years old, 7% were over 40, and 4% were over 50. I wasn’t sure what to think about that result, so I looked up the average age of a first time mother in America. In 2…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/18 02:13 AM
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You know, believe it or not I figured that one out about 15 seconds before I read your comment with a reverse image search. Fake news, huh? I'll fix it real quick, thanks for the help.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/18 11:55 PM
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Additional gorgeous middle to older women include: Adriana Lima age 37; here she is next to a 21 year old model. No sign of the wall. Rosie Huntington-Whitley at 31 vs at 21. I'd say that the sophistication that comes with age, such as money to buy style and products, have actually improved her appearance. Carmen Dell'Orefice in her 80's vs circa age 20. She's aged more like Scotch than wine, imo. Cindy Crawford in her 50's recreating her Oscars look from her 20's- 30 years different. Madonna at…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/18 11:17 PM
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Says one thing, immediately contradicts it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/18 10:47 PM
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Post the study, because MILF, by definition, is women over 30. It's the second most popular of all porn categories in 2017 by the account of Porn Hub.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/18 10:47 PM
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Very cool, thanks for sharing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/18 08:23 PM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Hannah_Graham
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/18 06:25 PM
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For me, it was less of propaganda / education and more of a chronic personal experience. I was told that if I didn't drink or dress like a slut or hang out with the wrong people then I would be safe from the sexual violence of men... and I was lied to, so I started looking for the truth. List of grievances: A man has shoved broken bottles between the snow and my car tires to try to strand me in a place with no cell reception. A man has literally grabbed me by the pussy when I was showing no skin…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/18 06:03 PM
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If you get to that level, it's because your appeal is vast.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/18 04:26 PM
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They became moms later. Prove me wrong, please. I'd love to learn something I didn't know before.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/18 04:23 PM
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Could be that I'm in a college bubble.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/18 04:22 PM
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haha, I like you. I don't want to argue if you've already made up your mind. The studies I've read (and linked several of) suggest that height is correlated with a modest increase in penis size. Another study I linked suggests that women prefer modestly larger-than-average penises. It is what it is: so many people here are fighting me on this point, but they have yet to post the equal opposite of my studies showing that moderately larger penises are had by shorter men or even that there's no cor…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/18 04:22 PM
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If you say so. I've read studies claiming that female fertility only declines something like 4% between 22 and 37, so I'm failing to see the biological point of your claim and in reality, I got more numbers age 26 and with a ring on my finger than age 22. But obviously, that later point is anecdotal. I can never be inside the mind of a man but let me suggest that aging (even in fertile years) is associated with weight gain in the US, which is obviously unattractive because of the health decline …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/18 04:19 PM
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Not sure, you can probably do a reverse image search. My goal for 10 was supposed to be that she's easily the most gorgeous, but peeps will even argue with the supreme beauty of the top paid models in the world. It's nice, in a way, because we aren't actually all after the exact same girl- if no one wants the girl I want most, it leaves more room for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/18 04:15 PM
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She's one of the top 5 highest paid super models in the world. It's not just me that likes her.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/18 04:10 PM
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None of them were moms before becoming angels. Not a single one
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/18 05:21 AM
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I'm not sure that this is true. It's a huge assertion with no backing, but I'm open to changing my view.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/18 05:19 AM
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Check out Elsa Hosk and tell me she's not hotter than any 20 year old you've ever seen irl. You're right that women shouldn't have kids, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/18 05:16 AM
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I've got the whole spectrum for you here. Here's a 10- undeniably gorgeous. She's gonna be 38 and will still be a top paid supermodel. A 9- stunning, but with a flaw such as unusually small titties. 8's are easy on the eyes, but forgettable compared to 9's and 10's. 7's still sexy, but you can start to see where makeup would improve their appearance drastically. 6 has obvious flaws, such as man jaw, and obvious assets. 5 is easily plain. 4 is where you start to want to give a makeover. 3 got gen…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/18 03:47 AM
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Yes, absolutely. Some gay women are players just like some straight men and women; I remember a competition among my gay girlfriends to fuck at least one girl from every sorority and their tactics to get laid are very red pill at times. Some gay women are betas that the hotter / sweeter / brighter girls settle for in exchange for low drama; you'll see ultra feminine beauties that could easily get very high quality men or women with traditionally unattractive diesel dykes who can protect them, wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/18 06:01 PM
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Nah, a .99 or .01 "positive correlation" would be statistically reject-able until you get to a very significant sample size. You've gotta look at things like alpha levels.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/18 05:32 PM
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lol and the second one is based off of shoe size and actual height / length instead of self reports; wonder why the users here are so pressured to try to throw out the mild positive correlations found by these studies. Could it be that red pillers tend to be shorter guys? u/poppy_blu doesn't even understand why I liked that third article, either: it's to show that that modest increase in size that tends to accompany height is preferred by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/18 05:30 PM
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Already married to a 6'4" dude with a predictably giant dong.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/18 05:26 PM
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It's a comparison explaining how a minority is responsible for a very visible action that the entire gender is blamed for, not some kind of sexual women = rapists equivalence.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/18 05:24 PM
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> Yup. Because that relationship is weak to non-existent as well. Assertions with no backing and failure to acknowledge a previously proven point. I'm done here. ​
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/18 06:08 AM
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Well, it correlates. It's like shark attacks and ice cream consumption- people are more likely to be attacked by sharks during ice cream season, but it's because they swim more during the summer. Tallness might not be directly responsible for a mildly larger penis, but it correlates.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/18 05:59 AM
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With significant sample size, weak positive correlation is still positive correlation.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/18 05:14 AM
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For study 1: I won't be able to read methods section to answer whether the penises are flaccid or erect until I'm back on my uni vpn about a week from now. Are you going to start arguing that flaccid length doesn't correlate with erect length now? :) For study 2: Weak positive correlation is still positive correlation, especially in context of the other studies finding the same or more dramatic positive correlation. Your Nature article: Half an inch is a lot when it's something like 10% of the a…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/18 05:13 AM
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Yeah, when I was 20 I remember being attracted to Carlie Rae Jepsen and then learning her age at the time (26) being stunned and off-putted. If the dude is too old to be in college then he won't be in a frat that throws parties, so you won't be able to party with him unless you're >21 and want to spend mad money going out to bars. :/
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/18 05:03 AM
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I added studies supporting my views to my original comment. Now post your studies that indicate otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/18 03:26 AM
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I just edited my comment with studies as evidence. Now post yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/18 03:24 AM
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There will obviously be outliers.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/18 12:19 AM
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It's the only thing we're able to correlate with penis size. Ask google.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/18 12:07 AM
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For those saying it doesn't correlate in their personal anecdotal experience or that it barely correlates without posting evidence, your posts mean nothing to me. Here are studies that a.) observe self-reported height and penis size to find a positive correlation, b.) measure mens shoe size and penis size to find a positive correlation, and c.) describe womens preferences for penises of above average but not huge size.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/18 11:48 PM
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They already blame men. Take a look at top posts of all time from r/gendercritical. That being said, interviewing one doctor on his opinion really doesn't set this reality in stone for me. You can ask an ER doc about marijuana and suddenly every time he's seen a person smoke laced marijuana and come into the ER with symptoms comes to the front of his mind and his response is biased because he sees what happens when things go wrongly.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/18 11:24 PM
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INTJ scientist dating ENTP engineer. It's a good life. He's brilliant and makes more $ because he's got a higher level of education for now. One of my favorite things about him is how he comes off as almost normal, but then he'll say something hilarious and genius and suddenly the whole room understands his sharpness of mind. Together we've got that rational creative theory applied to genius system building.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/18 11:14 PM
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Good insight, that SAHMs are a mixed bag.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/18 11:13 PM
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It's the same minority of women doing it over and over, similar to how sexual assault is the same minority of men doing it over and over.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/18 10:53 PM
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You have your head on straight, nipped this false dichotomy right in the bud.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/18 10:52 PM
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Nah, it's not easy at all. By week 4 there were times when I couldn't sit without seeing black and blue and fainting. Specifically, I remember being unable to pull myself up to send my professor an email that I couldn't walk the mile to class and having to wait about 30 minutes for the fatigue to pass. It used to be common practice to cut the vagina (episotomy) during birth so that the doctor can control the location of where the tear will be, because you WILL tear. Imagine if your penis tore op…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/18 12:41 AM
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Yeah, this exactly. It's one thing to scroll, see bikini pic, like, scroll, see someone else's model pic, like, scroll. It's something else to be trying to reach out personally to engage the bikini girl in sexual one-on-one conversation. In scenario two, the girl knows she's been targeted for unusual amounts of attention, and I bet it gets uncomfortable if she's just trying to live her life, be sexy, and like people. There are some serious weirdos in the world and this dude doesn't know how some…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/18 12:35 AM
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Sex just feels good. It's pleasure button, not enjoying submission.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/18 04:55 AM
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He's saying that willingness to assist with acquisition of birth control isn't a real option for men. I disagree, and the whole point of birth control is to avoid getting pregnant. So I'm sort of like... what drugs are you on?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/18 05:46 PM
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There's too many quality hotties for shitty hotties to get the quality ones. "Hot" and "quality" aren't mutually exclusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/18 05:45 PM
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Part Mexican woman checking in. The culture needs serious work because sexism is rampant and harmful. The further south you go, the more afraid women are to do things like leave the house hold duties to see a doctor when they're sick. Can provide more details if desired.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/18 03:52 PM
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High quality men deserve high quality women. "Easy" men get "easy" women.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/18 03:49 PM
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It's your body. Control your sperm, because when you shoot it into any whore that will take you, it might mix with her body and create an outcome you aren't ready to take on with a stranger. I couldn't get pregnant with my husband even if I wanted to, because he's careful with his body takes measures to avoid unwanted pregnancy.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/18 12:28 AM
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I won't down vote you, but I hope you read u/OfSpock 's comment twice in your search for the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/18 12:26 AM
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A pregnancy isn't legally a child until it is born, unless it is born it is legally just her body. You're legally wrong again. Third trimester abortions are illegal almost everywhere. The woman can legally leave the father off the birth certificate, lie to the father and say it isn't his, and even abandon the child to the state through Safe Haven laws. These things should change. I'm not arguing against you here at all. No one should be legally enabled to perpetuate their genes and abandon their…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/18 12:25 AM
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In that case, then, only women will ever be responsible for children because only women can give birth. Men can father children and then check right out of parenting, leaving behind children and women in poverty? Someone has to think about the kids. Birth control should be as important to men as it is to women; do you not understand the connection between birth control and likelihood of pregnancy?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/18 12:21 AM
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Yeah I agree with you about how marriage isn't necessary, but it is certainly a legal protection.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/18 12:20 AM
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Nah, you're not being creative. It's easy to understand ovulation and pay attention to when a girl bleeds. You can only get her pregnant on about 3 days of the month. Combine that with pulling out and you're already in a good place. Then don't sleep with girls who are unwilling to use an additional method of birth control and you're golden. Me and my spouse used only the rhythm method and it worked for 1.5 years until I got an IUD.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/18 12:19 AM
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No, not legally. Financially it's yours as well as hers if you're the one who got her pregnant, because it takes two to tango.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/18 01:34 AM
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Having to give birth is one hell of a responsibility and sacrifice.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/18 01:34 AM
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You've got to have had a little bit of a snowball effect for the decision to get all the way to: abort or birth. Why don't the man's choices matter? Let me suggest that your genes are precious and should be protected from women you don't trust to get an abortion. If two people are on top of birth control, they're both less likely to be faced with birth or abortion.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/18 09:57 PM
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Women don't have sex with other women and produce children like aphids.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/18 09:51 PM
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Abortion is just one form of birth control among many, and for some people it isn't personally accessible for legal, medical, religious, emotional, or moral reasons. > Lie about being on birth control or otherwise acquire sperm against the males will and This is exactly why we have to educate men on sexual responsibility. It's much harder to fuck up birth control when both halves of the coin are in prevention mode.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/18 09:51 PM
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Why is it confusing to you to recognize abortion as a form of birth control that may or may not be personally accessible? I wouldn't argue with you that sperm creates a zygote instead of a human life, but many people would and they're the ones who probably wouldn't elect to abortion as a form of birth control. You can choose not to have sex with a woman who claims she won't abort; it's your body.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/18 09:49 PM
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"Women don't ejaculate. Sperm use women's eggs to make babies. men make babies" See how it doesn't make sense when either of us say that? Abortion is just a last line of birth control only accessible by women like vasectomies are only accessible by men. For some people hormonal birth control isn't an option for various reasons, such as genetic cancer risk or hormonal imbalances. For some people using a condom isn't an option, perhaps because it chafes sensitive genitals or someone has an allergy…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/18 09:17 PM
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This is making a straw man out of my argument. Takes two to make a baby, except in a wild fringe case.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/18 08:41 PM
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We're on the same page, then. Love the validation to my own viewpoint
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/18 08:17 PM
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Human nature isn't going to stop for, "keep your legs shut slooots." Your approach lacks realism.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/18 08:16 PM
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Engineers are more likely to have kids that go into engineering. How do you explain that? Doesn't have to be genetic; it can be learned. Both still carry for this argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/18 06:47 PM
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I wish that ads and movies would show healthy older role models.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/18 06:45 PM
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It's not welfare for her. It's for the kid. Lol no one thinks of the children :'D
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/18 06:43 PM
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That's promoting survival of the genes of shitty parents who make bad life choices...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/18 06:43 PM
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Interesting mix. I've said in the past, anyone that's anti-abortion should be pro-welfare... but I never really turned it around and thought about it this opposite equal way before. I kind of like the sound of it, but I haven't fully thought it out yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/18 06:41 PM
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Women don't have the sole choice. There are dozens of choices: she can be on the pill she can have an iud he can help pay for an iud he can wear a condom he can pull out she can get her tubes tied he can get a vasectomy she can get plan b he can help pay for plan b he can use fertility awareness she can refuse to have sex when she knows she's ovulating she can abort if she becomes pregnant despite all the other choices along the way It makes sense that women have a last and final ditch choice be…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/18 06:39 PM
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It's his genes, and once the kid is alive... that's a new person who needs a positive role model and to be supported financially. Abortion is just the last line of birth control, and it makes sense that the woman would have a little more control over birth control because it's her body and mental health that's devastated by pregnancy. You can say, "well the guy could have used a condom' in the same way you can say, "well the woman could have had an abortion." Once you have a new human, none of t…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/18 06:36 PM
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Except that your offspring are raised with two good role models in a relatively healthy situation. But if you don't want offspring and find it impossible to trust partners, then I agree with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/18 06:29 PM
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I wanted a chick with triple D breasts, but double D's will just have to be OK... I suppose.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/18 06:10 AM
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Keep: Fitness, maximizing your looks and youth, lifting, confidence Awareness of mens rights and where they need to go: paternity rights, safe houses for male victims of domestic violence, mental health support Positive role models that build a stronger, smarter man Drop: Misogyny White supremacy Ambivalence or outright hostility towards the rights of minorities and women Imo the hatred from mens rights sections alienates a lot of people who could otherwise benefit from the ideology.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/18 03:37 AM
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> I am held to a different standard than women. my job is done when the work is done. By your own self. Have you read Animal Farm? You're exhibiting the traits of the horse in some ways. There will always be work, and you're paid to do a specific job; I don't know about your job, but I can bet that your job description isn't "do everyone else's work if they don't." > The biggest complaint was sexual harassment when a woman locked me in a filing room got all touchy :( > We are held to a different…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/18 08:32 PM
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Your post is good material for this sub, since anything woman-related works. Don't feel bad- even if you're a troll, you're making a great point.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/18 08:09 PM
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I think not- we have a mental health epidemic going on. Both men and women need help; you can see it in the suicide rates and apparently also in the number of people whose daily lives are affected by depression or trauma or poor coping skills or all of the above. What you're telling me is that in your personal experience a huge number of people have trash coping skills, and I've observed studies that show the person most likely to kill any given young man is his own self: a whole hell of a lot o…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/18 07:31 PM
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After 6 times I'd probably just start crying, too. Like, oh OK- this is normal now. I'll get to your longer comments after my responsibilities today are over. Sorry you're dealing with that; sounds like she needs a psychiatrist and daily meds.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/18 05:19 PM
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Not always. There are some guys that lots of girls want.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/18 05:17 PM
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What if 3 different guys all think the kid is theirs and contribute resources? High risk might be high reward.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/18 07:52 PM
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So then why would guys get a girl pregnant only to let their kid die from a lack of resources? You see, it goes back and forth. If it's risky for a girl's baby, it's also risky for the guy's baby because that's the same baby.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/18 04:47 PM
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"He hits you because he likes you." That 3rd grade advice really literally hurt me circa age 17 in the form of a black eye.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/18 02:37 AM
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Some kids get it in their heads to fake attributes that they think their romantic targets prefer.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/18 02:36 AM
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Is it really just a small niche that wants to be financially secure?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/18 12:57 AM
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Well, if men mate with one who won't abort, then they're fucked for the next 18 years. Child support is a huge slight to lifestyle. Plus, new women won't like that you're a baby daddy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/18 12:57 AM
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Part 2 Women don't work in exclusive circles of only women. Improvement of working conditions helps all of the workers. > Perkins oversaw the extension of wage-and-hour and safety protections for all workers, regardless of gender, through the National Labor Relations Act of 1935 and the Fair Labor Standards Act (FLSA) of 1938. These laws marked a turning point for union men who had long been ambivalent toward the idea of legislating labor conditions. No longer were strategies for improving the l…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/18 12:48 AM
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Part 1 > I was at work until 4 in the morning doing her job for her. Why did you do that? Perhaps consider that you could have used her strategy and... just left, especially once your paid hours are up. From this paragraph I'm getting that you see yourself as Atlas, with the planet on your shoulders. You don't have to do the jobs of incapable people; in fact, if she's unstable and leaves her work undone, file a complaint and get her out of the job she can't handle. Let her work go undone until t…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/18 12:48 AM
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I don't agree with this, because we have birth control and abortion rights. If you fuck a skank and never had a conversation with her about birth control and she wants to take you to court for 18 years of child support... that's your problem. You fucked up.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/18 12:07 AM
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So why isn't it maximization of female strategy to mate with many dudes hoping that one will commit, just like you're saying dudes can mate with many chicks hoping that one will raise his kid? Seems like basic biology to me, in both cases, but I'm certainly not saying that either strategy is the most superior strategy for either gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/18 12:06 AM
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Men can be responsible for their own actions. Each man's action was committed by a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/18 12:03 AM
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Wanna know what's better than a cougar? A rich cougar.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/18 12:00 AM
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I care. I find rotting dicks disgusting when they're covered in 3 types of herp from banging a million skanks. We're actually quite similar in this way, where you don't want a woman whose become infertile from having chlamydia 100 times.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 11:58 PM
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Always interesting to hear views that differ from mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 09:28 PM
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Can I get a source for that last sentence? I'm partial to some of the things you're saying, but a lot of it seems baseless.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 08:34 PM
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Why aren't men being held responsible for the behavior of men? You say women should select better mates, but why shouldn't men select mates they actually want to be with? You'd think that the more checks and balances we have on that stuff, the better the turn out will be for the kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 08:32 PM
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I'm saying that women absolutely can improve their sex appeal like men can.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 08:18 PM
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I'm saying that women absolutely can improve their sex appeal in the same way that men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 07:59 PM
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I linked the wrong study at first and edited later. My apologies, hope I didn't waste too much of your time.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 06:18 AM
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So I'll address the brunt of your comments tomorrow, but for now I just really have to ask: how many times have you seen women breaking down into tears at work because they have a lot of work to do? I've never, ever seen that except from a lady that learned her mom was suddenly on her deathbed.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 06:16 AM
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Tell that to the jersey chasers who spent 50k on lightbulbs and a perfectly symmetrical jawline.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 06:10 AM
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The things you're saying directly contradict my personal experience, but I'll try to take you seriously because you seem genuinely sincere. The thing is that not everyone reasons the same way. This boss woman reasons that protecting people from bankruptcy is worth while. Your eyes are on money above all else. Neither is brainlessly emotional; the approaches are just varied: one's more utilitarian and the other is more capitalistic. One without the other is weak, which is why you're better togeth…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 02:19 AM
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Yeah, sure. The more information you sort through, the more sophisticated your views become. I'd love for him to be aware of different perspectives and critically reason. This sub helps broaden my understanding all of the time. For example, I suggest that TRP might have men wasting their youth, thinking that womens' youth is more valuable than theirs. RP guy suggests that TRP helps men not waste their youth by advocating lifting. Boom, I'm more enlightened. Why would I deny my spouse that?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/18 11:13 PM
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I gotta disagree with the definition you provided simply because women are also capable of reason above emotion, so it's not inherent to men. Let me suggest that being a man involves being born with a Y chromosome and might change if you start taking medications to block the effects of the Y chromosome.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/18 09:54 PM
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Gotchya. With that clarification, I guess my comment is more like an add-on to yours than a challenge to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/18 08:45 PM
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Also, though, women have to impress men in some way. An old wrinkly lady won't have anything to give a dude who wants young tits, for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/18 08:37 PM
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Scrolled down looking for this one. Congrats on surviving Purge Week btw.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/18 08:31 PM
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Brilliant answer to a positive post. I like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/18 08:29 PM
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You're gonna throw out any data that doesn't fit your narrative.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/18 08:27 PM
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lol such rude bois
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/18 08:27 PM
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This is a vast generalization that paints an unrealistic picture.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/18 08:25 PM
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My sorority played a game once where one girl wrote a question and the rest wrote their answers and mixed them up, then had the asker guess the writer of each answer. Of course with a bit of alcohol one question ended up being, "What age did you first have sex?" The most common answer was 20. In fact, so many people answered 20 that we considered re-writing our answers to look like "20.5" or "20 and 3/4" etc. There was about 15-20 of us, and while there were a couple of "19" and "I haven't yet" …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/18 08:24 PM
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I'm sitting here trying to decide whether it's worth my time to comb the red pill linking TOP POSTS OF ALL TIME that are littered with comments about female inferiority.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/18 08:19 PM
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The studies will tend to control the mothers' ages to 25-29. Open one up and check out the methods section. Disorders in children is associated with miscarriage, as is increasing paternal age perhaps unsurprisingly. I read that study not too long ago, also. I've been learning a lot about this stuff because TRP has really brought it to my attention. Good luck on your search for the truth
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/18 03:24 AM
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From what I remember, about 10% is the infertility rate among Americans.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/18 09:56 PM
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I've got you, fam. To observe paternal age effect: To evaluate pregnancy rates in different age groups, a French study examined 901 cycles of intrauterine artificial insemination. They found that the most significant factor contributing to probability of pregnancy was the age of the male partner. After six cycles, men aged ≥ 35 years had fertility rates of 25% compared with fertility rates of 52% in men aged < 35 years, representing a 52% decrease in fertility rate. Male fertility just downward …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/18 09:56 PM
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For women: According to OECD (Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development), an average of 30% women remained childless in the age group of 25-49 in European OECD countries (21 out of 28 EU countries). In the US, about 17% of women remain childless at approximately age 40. The World Fertility Report, 2009 suggests that about 4% of women in India are childless. In China, about 25.7% of the women are estimated to remain childless till the age of 50. In Australia, this is about 20%. The s…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/18 09:50 PM
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Sorry, I don't understand your point because I don't follow celebrities. I'll happily link you some info about the differences between male and female fertility. I imagine that the point you're trying to bring up is that IVF can go further for men than it can go for women, if women haven't frozen eggs or whatever. Correct me if I'm wrong. I'll stay in the context of more natural fertility, not counting frozen sperm and eggs and the ways women can get pregnant after their natural cycles end. Firs…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/18 09:39 PM
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I like the positive way you're looking at this. Fitness is certainly valuable, and that's something.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/18 09:34 PM
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I can see ugly girls and ugly guys dating up in age as an equalizer, too. Maybe a 50 year old cougar wants a 25 year old incel.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/18 05:54 AM
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If you're planning on having kids that late, then you need to find a much younger young woman to be your partner because your chances of knocking her up go wayyy down after you turn 35. I read a study today that said it will take you about 2 years to get an age 25 woman pregnant, average, compared to the 5 months max that it'll take a 25 year old father. Never even mind if the woman is your same age: at 45, she only has a 20-50% chance of getting pregnant, supposedly. So, if you want 3 kids at 4…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/18 05:50 AM
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1 in every 5 people in the US never has kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/18 05:46 AM
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Alternative option, select for the 1/5 US women and men who never have any children at all, age irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/18 05:46 AM
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Women in their 40's are having more kids now than ever before. From wikipedia's page on age and female fertility: In humans, a woman's fertility peaks in the early and mid-20s, after which it starts to decline slowly. While many sources suggest a more dramatic drop at around 35,[1] this is unclear since studies are still cited from the nineteenth century and earlier.[2][3] One 2004 study of European women found fertility of the 27-34 and the 35–39 groups had only a four-percent difference.[4] At…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/18 05:10 AM
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The only demographic having more kids in the US today (compared to 50 years ago) is people in their 40's. A 40 year old couple has about a 1/12 chance of having a kid with downs syndrome, for example. Disease rates are much higher for them and a 575% higher chance of autism from the father alone (never even mind an older mother) is a significant increase in risk, but I agree that it doesn't matter if procreating isn't your goal. I hope you don't continue spreading misinformation now that the tru…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/18 07:21 PM
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False. I will link 4 separate studies on autism risk and paternal age. First, the 575% higher incidence of autism at paternal age >40 vs <30; glad we agree on this part, but I feel pressured to add it here because a whole lot of redpillers will argue that paternal age doesn't matter at all: Offspring of men 40 years or older were 5.75 times (95% confidence interval, 2.65-12.46; P<.001) more likely to have ASD compared with offspring of men younger than 30 years, after controlling for year of bir…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/18 06:09 PM
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Oh, sorry. I thought you were a different user. Similar user name.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/18 01:06 AM
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I don't understand why you bother commenting under my comment when everything you have to say has nothing to do with anything I've said. Just make your own comment...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/18 12:44 AM
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Marital rape was legal not too long ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/18 12:24 AM
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Hahaha, oh dear. For me, "common sense" feelings can be felt without them becoming my whole reality. Gotta see that peer-reviewed scientific study for something to resemble fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/18 07:02 PM
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You don't understand the difference, and that's fine. Maybe one day it'll click for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/18 07:01 PM
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Differences like the one you see here are because she can't scrunch the muscle any more because it's been functionally paralyzed. The resting skin doesn't change much; it's the wrinkles that show with facial movements that botox helps with, but once the skin is stretched and the collagen alignment is disrupted, that's it: it doesn't go back to the way it was. > Botox specifically prevents dynamic wrinkles, or wrinkles caused by muscle movements, Goldenberg says. ... “Using Botox can totally reve…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/18 06:08 PM
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Oh, yes. MSN and The Date Mix blog site, best sources. So scientific. Hollywood paints such a realistic view of the world. /s But onto the Finnish study mentioned by the article. > Men younger than 20 prefer women older than themselves, while men older than 30 prefer women younger than themselves. The reason for why men's sexual interest seems directed towards women in their mid-20s is likely because women of this age are the most fertile. 100% agree. > We found that women are interested in same…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/18 06:03 PM
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Existing wrinkles won't go away, but you can slow them from getting deeper or smooth out the muscle under them to make them less obvious. Prevention is the best medicine.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/18 05:54 PM
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Actually, this was my first thought. When someone mentioned genetics, I immediately thought of wealthy landholders in Europe making laws that they get to sleep with other mens new wives on their wedding nights and of kings with harems whose children would be more likely to survive because of the resources and protection beyond those that a nuclear peasant family could provide.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/18 05:43 PM
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We're asking for specific studies indicating the point of view that we don't have. Obviously if we'd already seen the studies we wouldn't be having this conversation. You're making the claim, so you support it with evidence; burden of proof is on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/18 05:40 PM
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Throughout most of history there have been ways for women to remain virgins, usually through religion; The vestigial virgins and nunneries are good examples. Not all women are forced into the marriage / childbirth path, and fewer now in the US than ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/18 05:38 PM
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This is an observation, not an explanation.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/18 05:37 PM
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Exactly, it's about having a safe environment in which to raise children. Instinctively, women seek men who have the power to protect their babies.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/18 05:36 PM
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Damn, where are you hiding those women? I've never heard a lady call a younger man "pathetic" because of his age, but "creepy" is a word I hear to describe older men all of the time when they make younger women uncomfortable by hitting on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/18 05:31 PM
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I'm young, sue me
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/18 05:29 PM
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If dudes want kids, they are absolutely on almost the same exact clock as women. Dudes in female only strip clubs are always in their 20's. I've never seen a guy that looked older than 25 stripping for women. Women want this more than they want this. It's just biology and evolution keeping helping them have kids with low autism rates. Female preference does the entire race a service, really.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/18 05:29 PM
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What I'm saying is that your comment about getting it after the fact makes no sense. I'm not saying you should get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/18 05:23 PM
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Botox is indicated for women in their 20's. It's preventative.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 11:26 PM
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This, in my opinion, is one of the biggest disservices that TRP does to men: it suggests to them that their youth isn't worth much. It puts them in a mindset where an OK car and stable job means more, in terms of the mate they can pull, than the youth that they can never reclaim.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 11:26 PM
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MEN AGE LIKE WINE, WOMEN DON'T CARE IF MEN ARE BALD AS LONG AS MEN PAY FOR THEIR TITS TO GET BOLTED ON!!! /s But seriously, in before dudes come in here claiming that females don't care if old men give their kids autism.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 11:14 PM
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Hey, weird tip. I'm a scientist also and very sexy, for better or for worse. I win more awards for my talks when I wear glasses; in fact, every time I've won an award for speaking has been when I've worn glasses, and I rarely wear them. It's like people assume I lost my eyesight staring at textbooks; but the same isn't true when I wear contacts. Even if you have to grab some fake glasses, let me encourage you to TRY IT. Your mind will be blown.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 11:12 PM
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Yeah, marrying from 25-35 is the norm in the US. Check the census.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 11:10 PM
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:'D
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 11:09 PM
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I actually do completely agree with this, but just hadn't really thought of it this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 08:36 PM
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If he decides he's in charge no matter what, then how could I expect to talk him out of it and back into a partnership? Inherently, him creating a hierarchy where he's the hedgemon and I'm subservient nullifies anything I could say to him; what I have to say isn't important because he has all the power and I have none, in his mind. Do you understand where I'm coming from? It's OK to have deal breakers; in the same way I'd break up without talking if he gave me a black eye, for example, I'd break…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 08:35 PM
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Yeah, your first paragraph is exactly what I was going to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 08:29 PM
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Thanks for the input, but I'm afraid I can't understand anything about your point of view if you only state it without explanation.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 05:49 AM
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Interestingly slim face on her in that pic. I won't disagree that she's above average, somehow, despite the fat and not because of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 04:00 AM
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I'm glad someone wants to love her. She's got a beautiful expression on her face, for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 03:59 AM
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I told him I'd help him take it out, but we had to get the smaller trash can. He said he wanted the larger one and was willing to exclusively haul the trash. I still help by taking the bag out and putting the new one in; I just cant drag them to the dumpster without swapping into gym clothes / breaking a sweat.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 03:56 AM
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There's no winners vs losers. Everything is a win-win at best or a compromise at worst. If you can't compromise and your relationship devolves to them making demands and you obeying, then you have a parent instead of a partner. In a healthy relationship your spouse will advocate for you because they want what's best for you like you want what's best for them. Let me give you some examples: trash out - he does because when he insisted on buying a bigger trash can that has too-big bags, I told him…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 01:09 AM
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"You're the man" is supposed to be a complement. Am I crazy?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 01:01 AM
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This isn't a photo. Just checked, she's not that fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 01:00 AM
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Absolutely true.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 12:59 AM
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Stop, you're making me throw up in my mouth. The day my husband assumes authority over me or tries to parent me is the day I walk out the door.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 12:59 AM
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It's gonna be hard to argue against someone's anecdotal convenience sample; gotta pick my fights.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 12:58 AM
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You can be there for someone, but when you're expected to be responsible for their emotional state then you aren't in a healthy relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 12:56 AM
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And studies have shown that attractive women have the lowest partner count. This would be a hard study to conduct. It'd have to be self-reported, which automatically biases the results. I wouldn't take a study like that as fact unless I was going around using it to try to control the behaviors of internet women through psychological manipulation. Let me encourage you to take a look at condom sales in the olympic villages for an idea of what peak physically fit women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/18 10:53 PM
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Someone post a photo of a beautiful fat person. I'll wait.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/18 10:51 PM
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Just like you don't wanna be filling in for her dad, she doesn't wanna be filling in for your mom. If you're a capable partner to her, then that's sexy. If you need to talk about your issues, you can pay a therapist instead of using your girl as an emotional tampon; she shouldn't be doing that to you, either.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/18 10:44 PM
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Simple answer: sexism.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/18 10:17 PM
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Yes, I agree with you. Brains interpret by literal signaling, and the orientation is usually going to be sexual because evolution wants us to keep the race going: reproduction is the biological goal.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/18 08:40 PM
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Why does women wanting to appear healthy have to be inherently sexual? Only because we're overly focused on the masculine interpretation of female health.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/18 08:23 PM
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I'm not saying that body pillows are inherently sexual. I'm saying that they are sexualized by men. There's nothing inherently sexual about putting dirt on your face; it's mens perceptions and interpretations that bring makeup to a sexualized place. We're saying the same thing, I think.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/18 07:39 PM
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lol, she's in her 20's- many people consider middle age to start at 40
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/18 07:26 PM
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Yeah, I think it might be the sun exposure and failure to wear sunscreen in addition to the culture of drinking and drugs. Men generally aren't taught how to preserve their youth like women are constantly pressured to; that's why women are the fair sex throughout their entire lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/18 07:23 PM
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I'm not saying it's inherently sexual; what I'm saying is that men will sexualize anything that adult fertile women do, including cover their entire bodies in a cloak.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/18 07:20 PM
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I'm showing some to indicate it's fetishized. I'm showing others to indicate that the female gaze alone can be tantalizing and that sexuality can be read from a woman draped in curtains from head to toe.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/18 07:15 PM
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Self reported surveys are easily biased. We're gonna have to think of something else, like Tinder stats. What are people in real life trying to get at?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/18 07:13 PM
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He has it good; there's really no reason he'd leave. I've set him up with 3somes before, even found the girls for them. We are an incredible match, or I wouldn't have married.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/18 07:12 PM
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Are you sure about that? Some people argue that the eyes alone are too sexy, which is why the burka exists. The niquab is certainly a fetishized. Stuff certainly comes up when you search "niquab" in Porn Hub. Women can cover their entire bodies and men will still fantasize about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/18 03:22 AM
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Anything that fertile adult women do or have is immediately sexualized by men. Makeup, dresses, breasts, long hair grown out over a decade of healthy diet, stockings, heels, etc. Of course there's gonna be cross over between female children and female adults; does it mean we should get complicated about little girls wanting to be big girls? Nah.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/18 02:18 AM
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I know what I want and it's something specific.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/18 02:04 AM
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Ok, then how do you suggest that we get realistic about sexual preferences? I'm not talking about anecdotes.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/18 02:04 AM
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If teen was the number one, you'd use that as evidence towards your point of view. Like I said, the peen wants what the peen wants and a huge amount of the time what the peen wants is a body with stretchmarks on the ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/18 10:08 PM
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MILF, which is somehow ranked higher than teen, features women past the age of 30. That's literally the definition of the genre. You can't call it scat if there's no scat. Yeah, my data is dated to 2017, I'm sure 2018 has some changes. Mom is up there because a ton of dudes have mommy issues and want chicks to love them unconditionally like their moms did OR because those dudes are in the US 50% of divorced households and have a step mom. So that one also doesn't surprise me. Hentai is up there;…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/18 09:48 PM
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Actually, MILF is defined as women age 30-50. The whole idea is that they're old enough to have kids and the kind of bodies that come with child bearing. I'm absolutely not shocked that men find the insinuation of childbearing sexy. Looks like as of 2017, teen isn't even on the top 8 list anymore. Apparently according to Porn Hub no 1 most searched keyword is now "lesbian" and no 2 is "MILF." The peen wants what the peen wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/18 09:26 PM
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It has a name to separate it from the norm because it's an outliner fetish. Interesting you don't say that about "teen" then and totally ignore my point about MILF being the second most searched porn category. Seems like you've got some mental blocks, but I'll try not to judge since your ideas must have come from somewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/18 09:15 PM
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I've been in this relationship for 3.5 years, married, and we fuck 4x weekly. Granted we mix things up and are both adventurous. I am very into self improvement and fitness; he's got everything I could want in a guy, so he's worth working for and impressing. If you want that cohabitation, you just gotta wait it out until you find the relationship that's right for you because if you don't... then the situation you're describing becomes reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/18 04:27 PM
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Nah, just a random example from one of my buddies. ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/18 04:24 PM
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Yeah 20-25 year old women don't want old dudes in a majority of cases. Also, now that women are getting better jobs and allowed at university, we're getting older lady surgeons taking 25 year old men out to dinner. It goes both ways because now women have opportunity to acquire wealth. What dude doesn't want a six-figures woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/18 04:22 PM
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Thank you for your reply, u/combatstacey , I completely agree that dudes come on here projecting male opinion onto women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/18 04:20 PM
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Maybe they're dumb, but they don't want your OK car and stable job. They want someone they can relate to and who excites them: the dude working minimum wage at concert venues who sneaks them in after hours to fuck on the stage.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/18 04:18 PM
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Yeah, just because it took you longer than average to figure out your best look doesn't mean that people in general peak after their fertility starts to decline. If you can't figure out fashion or makeup or fitness or how to shave your stache until 30, then you wasted your best years.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/18 04:17 PM
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Haha wrong, teenage girls want 15 year old lesbian Justin Beiber.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/18 04:15 PM
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It's not uncommon at all, lol. Teen is the number 1 most popular porn category and MILF is the number 2 most popular. Older women wanting younger men is so common that it has a name, "cougar." I would say it's about as common as older dudes dating younger women, anecdotally. Very few of my college class married or dated older men; one 21 year old Asian girl dated a 35 year old for about 3 weeks before deciding he's too "creepy" to bang and one African American girl married a white guy about 5 ye…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/18 04:12 PM
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That's like saying that if a fattie has confidence, her fatness won't matter. The truth is that signs of aging are unattractive because it means a higher chance of defects and miscarriages if you procreate with that person. Compared to fathers under 30, fathers over 40 have over 500% higher chance of autism in their children, with mothers ages controlled to 25-29. It's pure evolution that women are attracted to youth and men are attracted to youth; it's looks-match that puts older men with older…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/18 04:07 PM
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OK buddy, a sexy, trusting, and dependable partnership is a little different than being hooked on heroin but I can see that I won't touch your vision of the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/18 04:02 PM
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He's happy and I'm happy. That's all we're lookin for
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/18 03:51 AM
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Do you go outside?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/18 03:51 AM
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I'm not gonna lie; users like you make me think twice about what I say. If someone said my comment, changing it to be about women, it would go something like, "If men were actually attracted to older women then girls would be making their boobs look saggy on purpose." I would probably think it's a little rude. Don't get defensive, though. I'm sure you're right. Plenty of women pair bond for life, so obviously something goes into finding a mate attractive beyond youthful beauty. Make no mistake, …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/18 12:04 AM
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If women were actually physically attracted to older men, younger guys would be shaving bald spots onto themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/18 11:54 PM
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Some 16 year olds like Kim K are undeniably beautiful, certainly, but so are some 60 year olds. Neoteny is about sexual attraction and fertility; 16 year old mothers aren't as healthy as 26 year old mothers in the same way that 60 year old ladies won't be as attractive because they're no longer fertile. Neotony is about the recognition of youthful health in adults. We all know it when we see it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/18 07:38 PM
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I'm here to have my views challenged. I don't want to live in an echo chamber and I love people; I want to understand how others think.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/18 07:19 PM
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lol no, she's an adult and can take care of her own feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/18 07:01 PM
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Compared my high school prom 18 year old face to my honey moon 24 year old face with my husband. He said he easily prefers the 24 year old face because the jawline is more slender and cut, where the 18 year old pic has baby fat cheeks. That being said, many of my peers have a lot of fine lines already, circa mid 20's, because they fail to care for themselves properly. By 30 you've had a lot more time to screw up than by 18. I searched young vs old photos of women famous for beauty and included t…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/18 06:27 PM
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I've seen some stunning older ladies; I'm talking slim faces and waists, long silver hair. Smile lines can be beautiful, surprisingly. It's easier for the average 20 year old to be beautiful because she hasn't had 25 years to be a smoker or stretch out her skin with obesity yet. If you take care of yourself then you deserve a partner who does the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/18 05:52 PM
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I have a partner for life who doesnt gaf about your ideology. You don't speak for all men- not even close. You sound insane just writing this out, in context. It makes me feel bad for you, like you're living in a bubble.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/18 05:40 PM
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At a party a guy lied that he plays the same computer game that I do. So I ask about his build and his league, but he's giving me answers that make no sense. After the second bullshit answer, I'm looking at him, speechless and disappointed, and he's obviously and openly aware of his neon red hands... I walked away wordlessly.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/18 04:39 AM
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This person was asking for research on the effects of growing up without a mother. This doesn't help.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/18 09:58 PM
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It's obviously satire.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/18 06:15 PM
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Yeah, this is the one thing I wanted to change about the comment. Dog > parents
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/18 06:05 PM
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> And my opinion is that it's because sex is insignificant and unimportant to women. They don't lust for it or need it like men do. They themselves say so. I've noticed that whenever men talk about the importance of sex, women consistently try to downplay it, saying things like "Food and water are a need! You don't need sex!" "Can sex be fun? Sure. But it's not necessary." "There is more to a relationship than just sex." "Oh you boys and your equipment. You can't think about anything except that…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/18 07:29 PM
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You are making perfect sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/18 10:59 PM
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This amount of ignorance is frightening. Why not embrace the gift of modern medicine? Pharma companies can bring up the health of a population by producing and selling birth control including abortion pills cheaply. There's no reason not to allow people control over their own lives and the cycle of poverty and unhealth. Like we have the polio vaccine to stop little kids from getting paralyzed for life when they eat dirt at the playground, we can have cheap and available birth control to stop peo…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/18 10:45 PM
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Maybe you should be as afraid of being accused as women are of being attacked.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/18 10:02 PM
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The pothead every time. No stoner overdoses or blacks out and gets violent because of marijuana.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/18 03:31 AM
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Who is Feminism? Some kind of celebrity?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/18 03:32 AM
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Hm, I also think there's a revenge fantasy involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/18 03:28 AM
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It's helped me understand that there are a lot of human rights issues, in general; it's not just the minority that's oppressed by gender roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/18 03:26 AM
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Maybe on the day men stop whoring themselves out to any Stacy who smiles. How can I take them seriously when they disrespect themselves like that? /s
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/18 03:23 AM
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Let me argue that men select their mates as well. If no one chose to mate with the shitty mothers, there wouldn't be shitty mothers. By getting both men and women vigilant against breeding with shitty partners, there will be fewer shitty kids. Obviously, there are exceptions in the case that a shitty mom hops through about 65 legal hoops to get a single parent sperm donation similarly to how a single dad would have to jump hoops to get a surrogate.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/18 09:16 PM
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No one has ever given a flying fuck that I'm half latina. The bigger booty is all that gives me away.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/18 03:22 AM
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We won't know about the sperm donor until the kid is age 26 wondering why his 23ANDME is different than his "dad's."
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/18 03:21 AM
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Feels good. Idgaf about the dude who isn't involved thinking that I hate my husband pleasing me.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/18 03:16 AM
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Women were literally forced out until a time after my mother's birth. We could not attend my current university when my mother was born. Women were not allowed here until after the 1960's, no matter how brilliant.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/18 03:11 AM
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I will. Should I be surprised that u/Grizzlylongcut8282 had no response to this?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/18 03:09 AM
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Beautiful people are beautiful people; we all know them when we see them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/18 04:36 AM
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You're making an assumption, yourself, sir.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/18 04:34 AM
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"Worse"? Haha no, bring on the boob windows. Let's skip the foreplay and just admit that a fit female body is an absolute pleasure to look upon.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/18 04:10 AM
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I would drop a few bucks into his Go Fund Me for a rhinoplasty.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/18 04:02 AM
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This is what I came here to say. There would be a hell of a lot more gun violence to equalize the strength difference between the genders if the strong are attacking the fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/18 04:02 AM
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Bi chick, I'ma participate too like an unsolicited dick pic. For ladies: race don't matter, though redheads and mixed race really do the thing within about 3 inches of my height, north or south delicate, like these chicks, with clear eyes of any color and full lips fit and busty petite, not chunky at all yet must have substantial ass and tits: weight range 105-130 32D, the more symmetrical the better more team sports mentality than competitive; she should know we're better together Male equivale…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/18 03:59 AM
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Take another photo after a visit to the dentist for a cleaning, pruning those eyebrows, shaving the neck beard and stache, a diet until his face slims up, and crowd sourcing the money for rhinoplasty. I bet we can get a 4 or 5 out of this guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/18 03:49 AM
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I will link 4 separate studies on autism risk and paternal age. First, I wouldn't call 575% higher incidence of autism at paternal age >40 vs <30 "marginally higher": > Offspring of men 40 years or older were 5.75 times (95% confidence interval, 2.65-12.46; P<.001) more likely to have ASD compared with offspring of men younger than 30 years, after controlling for year of birth, socioeconomic status, and maternal age. Advancing maternal age showed no association with ASD after adjusting for pater…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/18 10:17 PM
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German universities allowed women access to stem and law programs starting in 1909, which is within 10 years of the time Marie won the Nobel prize for her work. Ada was an only child of an unusually wealthy family and had access to private tutors and mentors because of the choices of her father, blessedly, and her aristocrat mother. You can see that women succeed where they are provided opportunity. I'm sure that these women played a role in inspiring the revolution we've seen in the United Stat…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/18 09:30 PM
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I'm not saying that success comes without sacrifice. I'm saying that the circumstances of your birth often entirely enabled or prevented your potential scientific advancement. Obviously, due to the efforts of both genders this has changed within the last 100 years and we now see woman scientists discovering radioactivity and developing world-changing techniques such as CRISPR. Squandering the potential of half the race just because they were born too physically weak to revolt is a waste, and I'm…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/18 09:24 PM
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A 50 year old woman will be in menopause while a 50 year old man will struggle for years to father a child that ends up being autistic due to his time-damaged genes. You tell me which is better for society.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/18 09:21 PM
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Many men will say, "You make 13 million yearly? Take my youth." Men and women are both afraid of poverty, and it will motivate them both when they consider the person they want as a life partner. Do you think that 50 year old men father healthy children, even if female age is controlled to age 25? If yes, I've got a whole slew of studies for you about what happens to sperm quality after 40.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/18 01:58 AM
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I'm suggesting that equal opportunity regardless of the circumstances of birth will benefit society.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/18 01:55 AM
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Maybe they miss the fun they used to have, but now it's someone else's turn to ride the roller coaster. Easy to accept, especially today when women can accumulate wealth and power. There's no fix to wrinkles like botox, and now most women can afford it without asking their husbands permission.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/18 01:50 AM
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The weakness is inherent to female ability to bear children, which is a vulnerability and a critical service to society. Men are wise to protect and include them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/18 01:48 AM
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Lucky for ladies we live in a time when women can accumulate wealth as well. I wonder how your system will look when half the population's doctors are women because medical school classes have been graduating 50-50 between the genders for 50 years. It will be interesting to see cougar surgeons taking 25 year old men to a fancy dinner.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/18 01:46 AM
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I'm not gonna bother correcting you because I won't link my research to my reddit account.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/18 01:00 AM
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The whole thing here is just that red pillers are predictably obsessed with male opinion. A woman isn't gonna care that a dude would fuck a younger lady if he could. She was a younger lady once; she knows that male sexual attention is a dime a dozen and remembers having her pick of the litter. The man can lust after perky boobs all he wants, but unless he's got something really cool going on then he's gonna get boobies that are as saggy as his limp old penis. The whole wall thing is a non-issue …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/18 12:59 AM
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Stacies come in all colors. The hottest girls I've seen were a.) mixed Japanese and black and b.) mixed white and latina. Maybe it's just because they were striking and unusual.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/18 07:51 PM
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I agree with you. I think that society doesn't put as much emphasis on men being seductive as it does on women being seductive. I take care of my skin, workout, shape my eyebrows, spend money on makeup, work on different tactics to get long shiny hair, etc. With some men, you're lucky if they wear deodorant because many weren't taught that those things matter. When is a guy ever gonna pick out lingerie to wear for you to put you into a sexual fantasy? Never; it's almost unheard of and most dudes…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 11:11 PM
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Let me turn this around and suggest that many men are clueless about female sexuality. I can't put my dick into my own g spot at just the right tempo until I come.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 11:07 PM
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New to this sub so I'm not in on the lingo yet so I might mislead you by picking one. I met my husband at around 21 and married him at 24. He's a year older, sensitive, comes up with rib-busting one-liners, and is quietly in charge of most of his friend groups due to his sheer competence. I'm hotter than he is, in all honestly, although he's certainly tall and handsome. He's a little further along in his education / job track than I am and comes from a better family. He's not a gym freak or a lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 11:05 PM
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Ok, I'm obsessed with you. What now?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 10:58 PM
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You're onto something because the difference between us is this: a stranger won't be able to give me an orgasm without months of training. If this one line weren't true, I bet the discrepancy in sexual demand would not be quite as extreme. The reward from casual sex and one nighters doesn't exist for most women the way it does for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 10:55 PM
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Props to your sense of security and polite attitude in the face of animosity. I just tried some push ups and managed 3, so sounds like you're about normal for 2x weekly gym session fitness levels. Keep taking what you want from life; these people commenting here are just upset that they can't force you onto their life tracks. That's their insecurity, keeping them in rigid roles and feeling bad when others aren't there with them, not yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 06:59 PM
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> just because there's now a sexual dynamic to it. I know that when I talk to men, they are evaluating my attractiveness Wow, fascinating. I've always just taken the sexual tension that I have with everyone as a fact of life. Question: do you have it with women as well, when you are a woman? When you are a man, do you have the same tension with women that you have with men as a woman? > Just a couple days ago I asked my male roommate to open a jar I had been struggling with... He managed it in a…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 06:55 PM
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It's a fact, actually, that my state school's graduating class had a near 50-50 balance of women in chemistry. That's not anecdotal convenience sampling of, "hey I know a couple of woman scientists." I am a woman scientist and I am surrounded by woman scientists in my graduating class. You can look up the numbers. First, though, I suggest that you look at medical school statistics; the genders in each are approaching 50-50 (if they aren't already there as of the last couple of years) and biologi…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 06:40 PM
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Not being allowed to have an inheritance by law is a little different than the system we have today.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 06:32 PM
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Equal opportunity regardless of the circumstances of birth is valuable, I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 06:32 PM
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My graduating chem class was almost 50% women. Times are changing.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 06:31 PM
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It's an interesting world that we live in. I wonder if it's healthier for everyone to be afraid: fear of being attacked and newer: fear of being labeled as an attacker. In a perfect world we would have neither.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 07:13 AM
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Birth control is ever more prevalent, and most first world countries don't have compulsory births in the incidence of pregnancy. Not all women must bear children; about 1 in 5 American women does not procreate. The biological weakness of which I speak is the testosterone that men carry by comparison: gaining muscle mass something like 4x more easily is critically valuable. Testosterone is one hell of a literal steroid. And certainly, pregnancy induces additional weakness in most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 07:09 AM
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I think you'd have trouble relating to body positive women and their betas, but I don't know you very well so I can't be sure. What do they find funny, I wonder?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 07:03 AM
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Tina Fey wrote Mean Girls, and that movie is one of the funniest I've ever seen. Anecdotally, I know for a fact that I'm funny. Comments I've made have inspired laughter from rooms of hundreds of people due to their sheer cleverness. Seems like we've had some very different life experiences, u/Cho_Assmilk . Maybe what you're noticing is that women you come into contact with through life or media are focusing their passion / interest / efforts into something else and thus, they don't hone comedy …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 05:26 AM
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Men can be a little more intimidating to approach, especially for women, because of the wrong idea that men are inherently dangerous just because they're stronger. Was it scarier for you to approach men as a woman than as a man? Was there a difference in your physical prowess on and off of hormones? Do male to female trans people still have testosterone post transition? I have so many questions and I hope they don't come off as rude.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 05:16 AM
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Women were second class citizens for quite a long time. No voting, no jobs, laws designed to keep them economically powerless. Think about it. No woman wants to give birth over and over in a time without modern medicine / antibiotics / birth control; all of the ancient women that were faster and stronger than men didn't procreate at the rate that the weaker ones did because men couldn't impose their will on faster and stronger women. One of the genders was going to be weaker by nature. One of th…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 05:07 AM
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Every time a man hits the wall, a new man turns 18.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 12:12 AM
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A college athlete is gonna have better sexual selection than he would at 65 even if he attempts to maintain his fitness, fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 11:13 PM
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I fixed your last paragraph: as a general rule, the longer you wait to marry, the more limited your options will be, and the less chance you have of marrying a spouse who is a good fit for you AND whom you find sexually attractive. A person you want to live with whom you also want to fuck. Sorry, but time is NOT on your side, man or woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 10:54 PM
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