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Whether it’s an interview with the feminists who’d lobbied for an all female “safe room” at college who insist men should not have one too Link? Proof? Actually going to provide the example here orrr....? or feminist women writing letters to the editor for my city’s main newspaper backing demands that the Weld Club be forced by law to admit women, and claiming that all female gyms and clubs were “completely different” (in the same letter). Link? Proof? Evidence? Anything here or am I just to bli…
/r/MensRights01/10/21 01:19 AM
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I am sure that there are feminists who support establishing female only spaces and oppose men having male spaces. So your entire statements, everything above, is purely based on, what, your gut feeling? You have no actual proof or evidence to present? Its just "Trust me bro I am super sure" This convo is an immense waste of time then.
/r/MensRights30/09/21 10:01 PM
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Oh come now. Feminism is a movement, and one with massive lobbying power. Its also a trillion other things. Its basically everything and nothing. Its pretty pointless to try and argue what Feminism is. Its about the equivalent of trying to argue what Art is or isnt, or what Religion is or isnt. Waste of time. You’ve previously tried to deny women are pushing their way into male spaces I did no such thing. Please quote where I denied this. You have gone completely off the rails and erected an ent…
/r/MensRights30/09/21 06:10 PM
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You keep claiming that it’s “shitty individuals” or “isolated incidents”. That’s denying there are serious feminist campaigns to force male only clubs to admit women. Nope, that is not a valid conclusion to draw. If you hand me an Orange and tell me its an Apple, and I respond "No... thats an Orange" You'd be pretty crazy to then get pissed off and go "SO WHAT ARE YOU DENYING APPLES EXIST" Like bruh, no, lol, you just didn't hand me an apple. I absolutely agree apples exist. This just aint it fa…
/r/MensRights30/09/21 03:50 PM
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Your post is really just an attempt to deny that there are real feminist campaigns to force for women to be admitted into all-male clubs. Nope, not even remotely close to what my post says or implies. If thats what you got from my post I would suggest re-reading it and come back and try again. Everything that comes after what you just wrote their is built on a strawman you have just assembled either on purpose and disingenuously, or, you just straight up did not read what I wrote.
/r/MensRights30/09/21 02:10 PM
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For sure, it is institutional power. Are they abusing it though? Also you sort of just glazed over literally all the rest of my post I guess? You didn't really respond to 99% of what I said.
/r/MensRights29/09/21 05:46 PM
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That is still an isolated incident. To not be an isolated incident it would need to be something much bigger, it would need to be institutionalized. For example, the long standing issues with women raping men not being classified as illegal would be an example of an institutionalized problem. Men being more likely to receive harsher penalties and sentences for crimes is another example of an institutionalized problem. Thats what I am talking about, those are examples of things not being "isolate…
/r/MensRights29/09/21 03:26 PM
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This is about the equivalent of when a feminist says stuff like "Well the majority of rapists are men, therefore men are terrible" or etc. (While ignoring only an extremely small, very tiny sliver, of men are rapists) The handful of feminists doing these acts are very very very tiny sliver of individuals who identity as feminist. You have taken a very very tiny, vocal minority, who are doing shitty things, and using that as justification for broadly classifying the entire majority. Which is alwa…
/r/MensRights28/09/21 08:21 PM
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If your "evidence" is a handful of very small isolated incidents, then I have no issue calling out specific isolated incidents as shitty people being shitty. Those isolated incidents are shitty people being shitty.
/r/MensRights28/09/21 06:55 PM
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Well, I tried my best to explain. it's not up to you what other folks write Nothing in my post was about controlling what people write. If thats what you interpreted perhaps I wasn't clear enough, but maybe try reading again. This is a discussion about critiquing media, not controlling it. The fact you have gone all the way off the deep end and interpreted a discussion about critiques of media to be Totalitarianism means you either: A: Are going full hyperbole strawman, which is disengenious or …
/r/MensRights28/09/21 03:17 PM
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and if you spend all your energy whining about stuff like that, you'll have no energy to address the real issues I consider the way women are depicted in callous, disregarding objective ways in media geared towards men to be an extremely important issue very much worth my energy. Media aimed at men, especially younger men, is the primary vector by which young men shape identity and informs their decisions as they grow older. Also, I have plenty of energy to share and more than enough to put into…
/r/MensRights28/09/21 12:03 AM
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Did you even read what I wrote? Try again because you didn't even acknowledge this at all. But what you have to realize is a fuck tonne of writers people draw contention with waste that precious paragraph talking about her ass and nipples instead This is the problem. Its not "Oh we dont have time" its "Oh no they definitely had the time and space but instead of spending it on things of sustenance, you know, like making the characters do something or be something... no no, we spent like three par…
/r/MensRights27/09/21 05:15 PM
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I read your post and all I am gathering is somehow you are trying to draw a parallel between corporate spaces us men have no entitlement to and private safe spaces Which is as far as I am concerned, apples and oranges. People say shit like this all the time but I have never once in my entire life had a woman try and force herself into any men's only safe spaces I belonged to, and I'm getting up there in the years. What safe spaces do you even own? Or is this one of those hand waving "Some dude o…
/r/MensRights27/09/21 08:01 AM
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No, its reductive because you have taken an extremely complex topic and chopped off a monstrous amount of its complexity and reduced down to only one small facet of its whole, and pretended that one small facet is the whole thing. Try again.
/r/MensRights27/09/21 04:27 AM
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As I have said elsewhere, you dont need a large amount of time to actually make a character be more than just a one dimension caricature. A half decent writer should be more than capable of making a character have weight and value with very little screen time. You are going all the way deep into hyperbole. A single paragraph in a book should be all it takes to make a character matter, and such an effort should be trivial for any half decent writer. It isn't hard at all to make a character be mor…
/r/MensRights27/09/21 02:03 AM
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Painting feminism as a political agenda and nothing more is extremely reductive.
/r/MensRights26/09/21 06:59 PM
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Go take a look at this thread to start. https://www.reddit.com/r/menwritingwomen/comments/puzftd/what_are_some_superbly_well_written_female/
/r/MensRights26/09/21 09:57 AM
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and why criticize writer if he don't want to write women's? I will try one more time before going to bed. Its not about whether they exist or not, thats not the discussion, if thats what you think is the problem then you arent listening Please read: The issue is when your only women who DO show up are written very poorly and are hyper sexualized, objectified, minimized, and just used as plot devices THAT is the problem. Its "Hey my book is mostly all men... theres three women who show up. One is…
/r/MensRights26/09/21 09:56 AM
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I google things Which will be curated to you exactly as I said. You realize if two people google the same topic they dont get the exact same results often, right? Google guesses what you want to see and it curates it to you, thats how it works. even goes search videos Mmm perhaps on... Youtube? Which is owned by Google and uses that exact same search engine I mentioned above? yeah no, lol, thats the epitome of having the algorithm curate content to you. and ask people to give me website/videos M…
/r/MensRights26/09/21 09:54 AM
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You are entering into a self affirming loop here. "All x are y, and all y are x, therefore all x should be y" etc etc. As soon as you are writing a fictional story the super cool thing about fiction is you are no longer constrained by the rules of the existing world You could absolutely write a story about a bunch of women soldiers in a war entirely fought by women while men stay at home. You can just fucking do that and no one can stop you. Amazing right? And you are still extremely hung up on …
/r/MensRights26/09/21 09:49 AM
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Than why they don't complain about all female cast. They do, thats the super amazing part about when you have billions of people on the internet, a tremendous amount of which identify as feminists. Lots of them will critique it. I know, crazy right? People, having opinions and shit? Wild. Anyway they literally want women in gta and it is about gangs see? So? Women can and are members of gangs all the time. And maybe writer just prefer writing male character you don't need any reason for it actua…
/r/MensRights26/09/21 09:42 AM
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So your personalized and curated echo chamber crafted for you by algorithms. Cool, you realize what you see online is literally curated specifically to affirm what you believe, right? Thats how social media works. They pigeonhole you and then spoon feed you what they think you will agree with.
/r/MensRights26/09/21 09:39 AM
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You'll have to actually provide some form of concrete proof of that for me to take that statement even remotely seriously. How the hell do you even measure "diversity of genre"? I guess you go by like, gross sales by genre? Without providing any actual proof of your statement though, Im just gonna go "If you say so"
/r/MensRights26/09/21 09:38 AM
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First all of all you were saying that I should not complain because I am not target audience and now you are complaining about shounen? Incorrect. There's a difference between critiquing bad writing and whining that you dont 'own' a space The first is just basic criticism of the medium, which is fine. The second is gatekeeping and entitled. The first is simply just discussing <thing> The second is acting like you somehow possess or have a right to <thing> and others aren't allowed to have it. Sh…
/r/MensRights26/09/21 09:37 AM
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What you are missing here is not whether it has men or women. Thats not the issue here. The issue is if you're only depictions of the other gender are boring and full of stereotypes and shallow depictions Its fine to have a story predominantly full of men. But if your show is predominantly men and also every single women that does show up is a giant tit air head who's only job is to serve as a plot device, now you are problematic. Then its a fucking problem, savvy? And vise versa, if your show i…
/r/MensRights26/09/21 09:25 AM
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In setting without super power and magic how do you make women involve in action Theres like a million answers to this. But the thing is you dont have to be "involved in the action" to actually be a main character. But if you really want that, you can just write her as actually that strong and able to kick ass. You can just do that. If people lose their minds over a strong woman existing who can win fights, maybe thats the real issue. Strong women exist, I know, crazy right? Take a look at Brook…
/r/MensRights26/09/21 09:21 AM
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why only criticize shounen OP started with it. I consider all anime right now to be extremely dry as an industry and quite lacking in industry. We have a small handful of groups pushing the envelope but a shit tonne of media being produced right now seems extremely reductive and cookie cutter on all fronts. But this isnt even just an anime issue. This is a media issue. Everything is just a copy of a copy of a copy. Most movies, tv shows, anime, cartoons, etc etc seem to really be struggling to c…
/r/MensRights26/09/21 09:13 AM
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I do not hate Sakura. I think "everyone" is a pretty huge leap. Maybe in your small circle of friends, who maybe I would guess are an echo chamber. But I would say Sakura is a pretty decent character and she does her fair share of saving others plenty of times.
/r/MensRights26/09/21 09:11 AM
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Also why feminist call a movie/book which don't have many women sexist? I mean, thats extremely oversimplified. Should the story have women in it logically? A story taking place on the battlefield in World War 1 out past the trenches is probably not going to have any women in it, obviously. A story taking place in a all-women's school not having any women in it would be fucking weird though. If its a story that its reasonable to ask "Why are all the powerful strong characters with agency men, an…
/r/MensRights26/09/21 09:09 AM
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Shounen is literally targeted at boy's so most protagonist would be men and most focus would be on men. Thats a bold statement. Why? Also, you can have multiple protagonists in a show. Seems pretty reductive. Also in shoujo most leads are women and more focus is on women Most shoujo revolve around hetero romantic relationships between a female and male lead, which directly indicates a 50/50 split, or very very close to, of men and women being depicted as leads in shoujo. It will lean towards wom…
/r/MensRights26/09/21 09:05 AM
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Naruto Sakura is a pretty well written female character with a lot of depth and character. She goes through a lot of growth, has a lot going on, and plays a pivotal role in a large portion of the story. dragon ball Z Using an anime from 1989 is not going to help your case here, lol Tokyo revenger Maybe actually go take a look at the actual top list of grossing box office hits in Japan and worldwide and then come back and we can have a chat, cause you are bringing some small fry to the table when…
/r/MensRights26/09/21 08:52 AM
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I mean we all should be critiquing if a character is extremely boring or poorly written, and a lot of women often are in tv media in general. I will note, a lot of men are too, in fact a lot of shonen lately, in my opinion, feel extremely uninspired and cookie cutter mass produced. We absolutely have examples of extremely well written women in shonen though. In fact JoJo part 6 is coming out on Netflix this winter. There's tonnes of examples and the thing is, you may notice every show that has a…
/r/MensRights26/09/21 08:20 AM
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Feminism doesn't have a Bible so you can't really claim it is or isn't anything specific. It has no ten commandments. Its an extremely new movement (on the scale of human culture existing for thousands of years) I could grab 10 random self identifying feminists and the statistical odds they wouldn't all argue about what feminism even is is astronomically low. Because it's all ephemeral. There is no membership card, there is no entrance exam, there is no final test you take. People like to talk a…
/r/MensRights26/09/21 07:56 AM
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I mean, feminists do do this. Theres plenty of popular feminist channels out there that will criticize these behaviors. Factual Feminist, ShoeOnHead, ContraPoints are all big solid channels that don't hesitate to call out misandry and criticize it. Its absolutely a damaging problem and there are absolutely plenty of vocal feminists fighting against it. What on earth gave you the impression there aren't?
/r/MensRights26/09/21 07:49 AM
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The next step is realizing women also have their own pile of shit and catch 22s just as much as men. Great example you should google is the 'Madonna Complex' which has a lot of parallels to the 'Good Bad Boy' paradox you describe. Turns out its just part of the human condition to expect literal paradoxical behavior from others. We all envision the perfect partner as literally an impossible quantum state between straight up conflicting opposites. These paradoxical catch 22s put immense pressure o…
/r/MensRights26/09/21 07:45 AM
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I would not classify consumer spaces curated by any corporation as a "men's space" Its a 'whatever the fuck makes money' space. You don't own it, it doesn't belong to you, it belongs to a corporation Tying your identity to a corporate invention was your mistake. You want a men's space? You have to build it yourself. If you complain about not liking new forms of culture because it is no longer curated to your tastes, thats not a feminism problem. Thats a capitalism problem. You just aren't the ta…
/r/MensRights26/09/21 07:34 AM
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Yes, by several times. Men are more likely to be the perpetrators of the crime as well. Man on man crime makes up over 50% of crime. Which means all other combinations of man on woman, woman on man, and woman on woman combined are less than man on man.
/r/MensRights26/09/21 07:23 AM
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Its not just sexyal objectification though, its objectification. Sexual is one common form but women and men are objectified constantly and we should always call it out. Simply put, objectifying people is just reductive. Everytime a character us reduced down to a one dimensional caricature that merely serves as a vector for a plot? Thats objectification. Every commercial that reduces the whole human experience of <insert massive and diverse group of people here> down to some basic implication of…
/r/MensRights26/09/21 07:21 AM
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It was to point out that once you select for more and more traits that are barely attainable, you start weeding out very large sections of any population. OP literally wrote out math and numbers and made concrete mathematical statements. I replied that his math is flawed and straight up wrong and his conclusion is not a reflection of his numbers. He literally did the math wrong, there isnt any weaseling out of that. He's bad at math and doesnt understand the basics of statistics. Thats all there…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 01:19 AM
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Thats not the vector of info, we arent looking at average wage distribution. We are looking for the value of how many men over 6ft tall are also making over 100K, compared to normal. Because these values are covarient, you cannot handle them as seperate variables, you must handle them as both. And as you chain throughout the other variables as presented by OP, you have to keep doing the same. And as you may quickly realize, its actually pretty close to impossible because most of these variables …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 01:07 AM
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Go take like 10 seconds to google papers on correlating height with wage.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 12:29 AM
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with 100% certainty It doesnt need to be "100% certainty", the onus is on OP to prove it is 0% certainty not involved, as OP was the one making the original statement. If you think that being tall is contravarient to your income, then you aren't participating in this convo in good faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 10:01 PM
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That is exactly what OP said. When you have two separate chances and multiply them, you are asserting they are separate, non interlocked events that are covarient to each other For example, the odds of rolling a specific face on a ten sided dice is 1 in 10, 10% chance. The odds of rolling two specific faces on two seperate 10 sides dice, is 10% x 10%, or 1% chance. Thats because what side the first dice rolls does not influence the outcome of the second dice, these two events are seperate. You c…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 09:38 PM
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Well I mean, the law on this should be excruciatingly clear that the man has no right to see the child, but the mother does have the right to see the man still if she wishes and let him be in the kids life. Since at that point it is logically no different from if she had started dating some other guy and let that guy into her and the childs life. However legally at this point then, the law would handle things as if this no different than if said woman had started dating some new guy and let him …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 04:17 PM
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Absolutely, yup.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 04:03 PM
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because the more sex she has the higher her sexual demands and standards will be, the more she'll say all men suck in bed. Oh absolutely. Because she's realised most men do suck in bed. Literally browsing and seeing the kinds of posts on /r/relationship_advice really dials in how absolutely terrible this issue is. There are SO many posts there of women being like "Ive been married for 8 years and my husband has never made me orgasm, is this normal?" You know you can communicate and teach each ot…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 09:01 PM
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which definition are you wanting to use today? https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/patriarchy " social organization marked by the supremacy of the father in the clan or family, the legal dependence of wives and children, and the reckoning of descent and inheritance in the male line broadly : control by men of a disproportionately large share of power" The definition itself is large because patriarchy is a term that can exist in a micro and macro scale. A household can be a patriarchy, a g…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 08:46 PM
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Well there can only be one funniest man in the entire world. And his name is Dad.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 12:34 PM
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Yeah, sure. How exactly were people giving decimal ratings on a dating app, where scores typically are integral...? You telling me most folks were told to do ratings and were like "Oh yeah Im gonna score this dude a 3.557...6..." "Maam, you have to pick an integer between 1 and 5..." "That sounds like something a 1.664 would say"
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 12:33 PM
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The best sex I've had with my partner was shortly after we let our feelings out and got all raw with each other. Then cooled down and thanked the other for listening. Then fucked like rabbits. Something about getting all raw and emotional and really being real with each other is a big turn on.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 12:30 PM
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Yeah and you can eat at McDonald's every meal your entire life. If you can find a partner who sexually satisfies you everytime, that's a good time to settle down. For a lot of women, most men are like, really bad at sex though, like the bar us often as low as "can make me orgasm" and I've chatted with lady friends who were on the scale of years since a guy last made her orgasm on his own, without help. And no not a married woman, a woman who used tinder and hooked up with guys often. She effecti…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 12:25 PM
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Oh we definitely do. We have two ferrets and they get whatever they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 12:18 PM
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he knows for sure wouldn’t cheat on him, divorce him, or trick him into taking care of some other man’s kid? How to sound insecure as hell, 101. Step 1. Worry that your partner is cheating on you. Step 2. Worry they will divorce you. Step 3. Worry they are gonna cheat you into raising someone else's kids. Congrats, you have successfully become insecure! A secure man has no doubt his women isn't cheating on him because he knows she never would. Period. Psst, if a woman with a lot of sexual experi…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 12:17 PM
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Hmm. Both are extremely expensive heavily marketed items that require immense upkeep and instantly devalue to almost no resale value the moment you buy them. However, sex dolls prices aren't backed by an industry built on top of child slave labor and banana republics. So, not a perfect comparison. Both aren't smart purchases though. From what I've heard sex dolls are extremely difficult to upkeep And not worth it all, and take up so much more space than you expected. And diamonds are just a terr…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 12:11 PM
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I finished step one and two and got a fiance, did I mess something up? We bought a house together though, does that count for step 5? Also I'm like 99% sure I satisfy step 3 but she just rolls her eyes at all my jokes, am I doing it right? Pls rspnd
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 12:07 PM
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I dunno I'm pretty sure I made some fart jokes the first time I met me to-be-future-fiance 11 years ago. I have zero clue what she saw in me. I mostly just focus on myself. The day I stopped focusing on what everyone else thought of me, and just turned 100% of my energy inwards, did I stop being so damn unhappy in life. Look you can try and be someone you aren't to get a date, get with a partner, start a relationship. Its feasible a d people do it constantly. But let's be real. Do you seriously …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 12:03 PM
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Do you think men have sex because they "need validation"? Have you considered people like having sex because it just feels really really good, orgasms are awesome, and most people are super super horny often? Like wow does sex feel good. Do you think men who sleep around also do it for validation? Cause when I've asked lady friends I know about past partners, knowing they have had many, typically its along the lines of not even remembering the dudes names. They were literally just horny and want…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 11:53 AM
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Theres a huge difference between "can't do anything without moms approval" mommas boy, which was caused by the mother being a helicopter parent in the early teens typically, vs "takes his mom out for dinner on mothers day and calls her to check in and see if she's doing okay once a month" The first is an instant turn off in dating, as it indicates mom runs the show, he will always put mom first, and he is probably spineless and doesn't have an independent bone in his body. The second makes most …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 11:46 AM
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Oh god, yes, and it was so cringey to hear someone utter it out loud.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 11:39 AM
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Gangbanging Cuck These two terms are mutually exclusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 11:39 AM
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No, most western societies are, by definition, patriarchies. US as an example has been overwhelming male dominated at *all levels of power by men for its entire history. From the lowest levels all the way up to the top. Police forces, lawyers, judges, mayors, governors, senators, the FBI, presidents, top ranking positions of their military. For most of their history laws were written by men, upheld by men, approved by men, enforced by men, and protected by men. Thats just a cold hard fact. Women…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 11:35 AM
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Both are unhealthy and rooted in myth. Porn doesn't desensitize you. Its the other way around. Decensitized individuals will use porn as a treatment Theres plenty of paper linking addictive behaviors with depression. Depressed people self medicate and self treat with anything that works. Being depressed increases your risk of getting addicted to anything, including porn. So then people see "they were acting depressed and got addicted to porn, porn made them depressed!" When its usually the other…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 11:29 AM
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I always will hold that most men would instantly drop their issues with female bodily autonomy if men get equal life/financial autonomy rights. Or, if you will, a right to financial abortion. Up to the 2 month mark after being informed officially of the pregnancy, a man should have the right to 100% sign away his rights as father and waive all responsibilities. No child support, no right to see though either, no say on any calls after, the child is no longer his. One exception, the child/mother …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 11:23 AM
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I can personally confirm this first hand. I'm not the sort of dude who goes to bars often or drinks, but I worked for many years in the hospitality industry and made many many friends. Most kitchen and bar folk are notorious drinkers and partiers so, I was known to be the type of guy who daily passed on going put drinking. Now I don't consider myself a very attractive person, physically. Like maybe a 6, 7 on a good day. Women do /not/ come up and talk to me spontaneously, let me make that clear.…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 11:15 AM
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Simple! Pregnancy would have to be an event that doesn't consume resources, endanger the mothers life, in an unfair way. Great example of this are seahorses, where the males get pregnant. Pregnancy is basically where it all is. Being incapacitated for a couple months, suffering a tonne of health risks, increased risk of death, huge depletion of resources, all are massive costs. Thus, when it comes to heterosexual reproduction, the side that bears the effort of producing the offspring holds the c…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 11:04 AM
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Do your studies ignore the vast amount of unhappiness suffered by the lower classes, minority groups, and in some cases, you know, slavery or pseudo slavery? Child labor? Banana republics? Course it was easy to be happy as a middle aged white guy in suburbia before all those labor laws made it so your life of luxury wasnt built on top of the broken backs of slave labor, depleting resources, and destroying other countries. It isn't bad now because of progressiveness, lol. Its bad now cause we are…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 10:53 AM
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Because expecting a man who was violent in the past to be violent now is logical. Expecting a woman who had sex with men in the past to... what exactly again? Cheat? Leave you? What are you worried she's gonna do exactly? Have sex with you? Wait that's a good thing hmm.. Cheating is not comparable to consensual sex that didn't involve cheating. Now... Judging a woman for cheating in her past, and expecting a woman who cheated in the past to cheat again? Thats a fair comparison and I have no issu…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 10:46 AM
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OP your math assumes that each of these are covariant which is pretty much the opposite. Theres a direct correlation between being attractive, tall, head of hair, income, etc. Consider: If 5% of the population are red heads, and 4.9% of the population has freckles, you can't just say that 5% x 5.1% (0.2%) of the population has both. Because what if I told you that 100% of the people with red hair, also had freckles? Then you realise, oh, 5% have both. Height and attractiveness correlate, most wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 10:42 AM
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I like how you flipped from "most" to "none" Are you just trolling or do you not realize how that extremely "All or nothing" approach is extremely unhelpful. Also if you are trying to make a point here, sarcasm is the weakest form of communication. Im gonna just assume you are a troll unless you start taking the convo seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 06:38 PM
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Maybe at a computer or techie event, but even then like... naw. ..No Im just talking about normal woman in everyday life. At like, parties, get togethers, board game nights, etc. Just regular women. In everyday life. Why is this not getting through to you? They hae to have a broad understanding of tech, not the details of it - which is where you get rolling eyes or the "omg I'm so bored" body language from women. I think they are rolling their eyes cause you come across as a pretentious dick. Be…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 06:34 PM
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If you're a dude, sure. It is not hard for me to find men who are interested in talking shop. It is profoundly difficult for me to find women who are interested in this, to the extent that I don't try anymore. Nah I am talking to women too. Like I have never found it to be like, "Women arent interested", its been pretty much equal. When I talk to a room of people that is a mix of men and women, they're all paying attention and asking questions. Congrats on the special snowflake. Do you really th…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 06:10 PM
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And being emotionally open also means you will be quite sensitive about these issues when brought up See thats the logical jump again. How does being emotionally open = be quite sensitive about these issues From my experience, being emotionally open makes me less sensitive because I have nothing to be afraid of. Welcome to female shit test land, where the star is the clueless, emotional male constantly being abused and sent on emotional rollercoasters while the girl watches and laughs as she spi…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 06:06 PM
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Absolutely. Men need to teach their sons how to feel as well, its effectively a cycle of abuse. Father never hugs son, son never hugs his bros.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 06:04 PM
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Cos watching teen ‘thots’ get gangbanged and anal fisted hours everyday Is that what you think most men do? Hm.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 06:04 PM
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Thus, if men keep their rational minds and accomplish physical intimacy through sex, which is dominating, they will see through this much better and maintain a dominant status. That just sounds like you open yourself up to getting sexually manipulated then. Your plan kind of breaks down when you encounter women who use sex as a manipulation tool, and suddenly you're only source of physical intimacy is being used against you. Men who are openly emotional/loving and warm are easily manipulated by …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 05:08 PM
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My GF was actually conceived after her father had a vasectomy. Mind you that was 25 years ago and vasectomies are better every day. But there's several layers to why a vasectomy isnt a great option. The guy may want to have kids later, just not right this fucking minute lol Its a surgical procedure, that can cost a lot of money. You have to take time off work. Some guys in some places are barely making ends meet and having to take time off work would mean not being able to afford rent that month…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 05:05 PM
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object oriented programming Im an MCSD C# full stack dev and definitely talk about it as well. or landing orbital class rocket boosters Are you kidding me, that shit is extremely cool, my girlfriend and I watched the live stream of Tesla's first production launch and landing and she was in awe at how smooth the landing was, and we gushed about how cool it was for like a solid 20 minutes afterwards. Maybe you are just bad at talking. Any topic can be interesting. You just need to learn how to mak…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 05:02 PM
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A quick browse through what other people have said in this thread should give you an idea what the common opinion is. Sounds like you had a healthy time! But take a look at what a lot of other guys are saying around you to get an idea of the climate.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 12:38 PM
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Hugs and sex are not exchangeable for each other so that makes sense. Even if they were, the exchange rate would be terrible!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 05:57 AM
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until you show that guys who have bros to hug crave sex less often Oxytocin inhibits Testosterone receptors temporarily, hugging releases Oxytocin. Testosterone directly correlates to horniness. So serious hugs night make you slightly less horny. Its complicated cause oxytocin also can make you horny, in some cases. And hugging releases more hormones than just oxytocin. You'd indeed have to study men who hug more and have more physical interactions, compare them to men who dont, correct for test…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 05:53 AM
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but I don’t think they cancel each other out like you’re suggesting Definitely not suggesting they cancel out
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 05:49 AM
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to hug each other in greeting I think I shouldve mentioned this in my post. It takes a few seconds of hugging for oxytocin to begin releasing, a half second greeting hug does not trigger an oxytocin release. It needs to be a hug hug, like the kind you do for someone when they are hurting or crying and you want to comfort them. Those are hug hugs that actually trigger hormone releases. Why tie this in to men's entitlement and baby wah wah attitude about sex? What a toxic attitude. No hugs for you…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 05:47 AM
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A greeting hug isn't the same as a hug hug. Oxytocin only kicks in after several seconds of hugging. Very different from just the half a second greeting hug. Hugs that release oxytocin are the actual genuine big hugs.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 05:43 AM
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Thatd be because you arent a bro. Sorry bro!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 05:42 AM
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Some people are different. Not everyone is the same!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 05:41 AM
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That would equate to cuddling being as sexually satisfying as fucking Nope. Not what was said, I did not make that statement, no one has. And I cannot fathom any amount of physical affection with male friends satiating my desire to fuck women. I never said it would satiate it. That's just a strange thing to even think, let alone assert. It certainly is, not sure why you brought it up when no one said that!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 05:40 AM
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Wanting != craving.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 05:39 AM
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To each there own, but maybe consider it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 05:39 AM
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Thatd just make you not a bro. No hugs for you. Unless you want a hug. In which case yes hugs for you bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 05:38 AM
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No one here has stated otherwise. Though. Asexuals exist, lets not minimize them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 05:27 AM
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https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5955922/ These findings provide initial evidence for the neural mechanism by which oxytocin may counteract the negative effects of testosterone in the modulation of nurturing behavior. Cuddling releases oxytocin after enough time, and oxytocin inhibits testosterone receptors to some degree, making it temporarily less impactful on cognitive behaviors.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 04:30 AM
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Right so, for example, what if the study found that cuddles lowered testosterone slightly? I bet there are papers on this, if I say any, Ill let you know?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 04:23 AM
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Hugging a dude and saying "I love you, no homo" isn't going to make me want to get laid any less. Like at all. Even a little. What if scientists found out it actually did that? Hugging releases the same hormones and activates the same parts of your brain that sex does. Not as strongly, but still there.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 04:21 AM
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In fact sense high t is often correlated with aggressive antisocial behaviour, the men with the highest sex drive probably seek out "softer" validation less. Though possible, youd have to correct for hormone levels. That is, study whether men with roughly equal hormonal disposition follow the suit. IE 2 men both with roughly the same testosterone levels, but one gets cuddles and etc, the other is deprived of it, query them on their dependency on sex in relationships. Id assert correcting for tes…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 04:16 AM
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These cravings that men experience are exacerbated if they were conceived by young fathers. Im gonna need to see a source on that one, never heard that before. and I believe homoerotic behaviour can be devastating to the mind Oh, nevermind. I understand now.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 04:14 AM
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You seriously think women who can't get sex are satisfied with a bit of a friendly hug? Nope, as that is not what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 04:13 AM
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That sucks to hear. Everyone deserves platonic affection, both growing up and as an adult.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 03:55 AM
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Only wanting a loving and fulfilling conjugal romantic relationship with another bro makes you gay bro, everyone knows that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 03:52 AM
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I dont identify as a feminist, no. You seem pretty ignorant on how men act. Alright, thats like, your opinion mang. You're entitled to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 03:50 AM
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You'll never know how men act in private, and no men will tell you. I'm a man, dude. I think I'm pretty confident on how men act in private, being one myself. Hold on let me check. Yup. Definitely a man lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 03:35 AM
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Women are statistically several orders of magnitude more physically affectionate than men. Theres plenty of studies that support this.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 03:34 AM
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Your a good person then and are doing great!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 03:32 AM
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Crave is different from want. Dont you think there may be a correlation with women being able to cuddle, hold hands, hug often, etc, and the fact women arent percieved as sex crazed animals? If men could get physical affection elsewhere with ease, then I suspect thered be a lot less of sexual dependence. Sure sex is fun. But when you havent even had a hug in 12 months, sex starts to become more than just fun, it becomes a desperate need. Dont you think men not getting any affection may possibly …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 03:31 AM
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Men want Theres a huge difference between 'wanting x' and 'only wanting x' Savvy? Haven't you ever won a sport and been lifted up by your team mates? Never seen men love one another platonically? These kinds of men are leading heathy lives, yes. I never stated men are incapable of this nor that it never happens. I just stated that the only socially acceptable way to ask for physical affection is sex. Does that make sense? Also it can definitely happen a LOT more often. Women are still leagues ah…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 03:27 AM
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Theres a difference between 'want' and 'crave'
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 03:24 AM
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Hugs should be consensual of course lol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 03:22 AM
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I should specify "single" guys. But even then, expecting your gf to be 100% of your only source of affection is mega unhealthy and a massive burden on her. A healthy man should have a network of emotional support.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 03:21 AM
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It's certainly lifting, but we have a long ass way to go.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 03:20 AM
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People crave what they lacked in childhood. Boys are almost entirely deprived of any form of physical affection growing up in many cultures. So it's their number one craving as an adult. Whens the last time you've hugged a man, as another man? Literally just a platonic hug? Now how often do women hug? Cuddle? Etc? That's where it is. If we men really want to deal with this, step 1 is learn to just hug your bros and tell them you love them. Seriously. Hug your bros. We all deep down inside just w…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 03:09 AM
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Bonobos and Chimps are both our closest relatives.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 03:05 AM
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Most men have habits that quickly drain the womens energy. Emotional burden dumping is a big one. It's easy to be attracted to the guy when you live apart and he isnt dependant on you. Then you move in together and slowly you realise you arent his gf, or wife, your his mother and/or psychologist. Want your relationship to sustain? Get a therapist, learn emotional literacy, do the dishes and do your laundry. I state this as a man who just had his 10th anniversary. Shit ain't hard. Just put some f…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 03:04 AM
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It's a sign of lack of maturity. Mature men, actually mature men, arent attracted to teenagers. Mental maturity means finding people at the same mental maturity attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 02:59 AM
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Most countries and states have this. It's common and considered the status quo.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 02:57 AM
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Reducing a person to an object you eat food off of is rude. It's literally just because referring to people as objects is fucking rude.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 02:56 AM
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No because empathy is an incredibly powerful force in the brain. You have to be a psychopath to truly 'get away with it', because the man himself will have crushing guilt. Now, if the woman is into rape, as in RapeKink, DubCon, CNC, etc. I absolutely will engage her in her kinks. But I'm guessing that's not what you meant
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 02:55 AM
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Sour Grapes. It's a defensive mechanism intrinsically linked to the blowback effect and is deeply tied to NPD. It's a sign of mental illness. You dont hear about the guys that take rejection well, because who the fuck goes online and posts about that guy who responded with "Ok cool, ciao" and left. No one really. You just only hear about the dumbasses who make a fool of themselves cause they have the emotional literacy of a walnut. Dont sweat it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 02:52 AM
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If women were choosing nice, conscientious, loyal and honest men there would be no unsatisfied men in the SMP to gravitate towards TRP. Read what you just wrote. I think you just answered your own question. If the nice, loyal, conscientious guys are getting into relationships, then I think you can figure out what that leaves as the guys leftover in TRP... Come on, you are smart, I'm sure you can figure out the rest lol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 02:49 AM
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so why the advice is to lie instead of breaking up? The advice is overwhelming to break up, over on /r/Relationship_Advice whenever this comes up. So there you go. I like to know my partners n count, roughly, cause then I get the satisfaction of knowing I'm the one who edged out ahead of all those others. Like, "Oh, that many? That's impressive." The narrative of a high n count = lower standards is ass backwards. The more experience a person has, the more their standards raise as they learn to d…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 02:45 AM
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No one finds that to be a tirn off. People crave emotional connection. Its /literally/ crack for us. Specifically crack stimulates the brain the exact same way emotional connecting to people does but like, more. Literally. Being emotionally open, sincere, and charismatic is extremely attractive to everyone. This doesnt mean sperging out about who your favorite marvel hero is for 45 minutes straight. This doesnt mean talking about how a 'female' is a 'goddess' or whatever bullshit fedora tippers …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 02:34 AM
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Women who want a relationship *with a guy who is insecure about sexual history Older adult women view guys who care about n counts as childish, immature, and not worth their time Literally everytime it comes up on /r/Relationship_Advice the responses are heavily "Dump the loser and find a less insecure guy" If you think a high n count is a negative, then best of luck. More women for the rest of us lol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 02:28 AM
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The bar is so low on men, a guy who showers regularely, isn't socially awkward (just getting experience by going out and flirting), put efforts into his look (dress well + haircut + stays fit) is already top 20%. It ain't THAT low fam. You gotta also be able to hold a convo and not be a huge fucking prick. That last one is where most people fail tbh. Like literally just go browse the posts on /r/NiceGuys to see where the bar is. You're issue is you think theres like either 'attractive' vs 'not' …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 02:22 AM
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Read up on the 36% rule, it's a common thing that occurs in many systems. Also known as The Secretary Problem. That's all there is to it. In order to judge the quality if a lifetime mate, you need enough sample data to tell shitty mates from good, and be able to spot a quality partner. 20~30 is roughly the age range people hit the 36% mark and have enough sample data to confidently detect 'a good one'
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 02:14 AM
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but I also know that the burden usually lies on the man to get his woman in the mood due to female sexuality being reactive. If you view foreplay as a 'burden' then maybe you arent cut out for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 02:12 AM
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Experience is scarce and extremely valuable.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 02:09 AM
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Sour grapes mostly. No man in a healthy and successful relationship with a woman with a high n count would view her as 'used up' Only salty Nice Guys TM who never had a chance with her in the first place would say shit like that. They 'sour grapes' justify it as "Oh well she is 'used up' so I didnt want her anyways" Not individuals you need to care about the opinions of. Theyre just salty.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 01:56 AM
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I know that the general consensus is that being nice or overly emotional as a male is a good way to repel most women sexually It's not. Its just that Nice Guys TM arent nice people, or good people. Literally just go browsing in /r/NiceGuys for like, 20 minutes and hopefully you'll figure out what the issue is.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 01:38 AM
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Yes, women spend like 10x the effort on their appearance. They put way more effort into learning how to dress well, learn how to do makeup, style their hair, shave their legs, etc etc. If a man put in the same kind if effort, hed also be as attractive. Some men do. But most dont. Which is mostly because no one ever bothered to teach them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 01:34 AM
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No, because your assumption is the women isnt capable of fixing things herself. You are physically incapable if fixing a women. Theres only 1 person in the world who can someone, and that person is themself. That's all there is to it. You will never get to be a hero who 'saves' a lady from herself, and a woman can never 'fix up' a man. We either fix ourselves, or we dont. End of discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 01:32 AM
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I love to hear about it and go "Wow, let's try that out, see if we can do it even better"
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 01:30 AM
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The three most prominant Male cartoon characters are a mouse, cat, and bunny, respectively. Mickey, Felix, and Bugs.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 01:29 AM
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but I've tried. Talking to women about these things is a fool's errand. Heres where people fuck up. Are you talking TO women... or WITH women. People dont like being talked TO. They like talking WITH you. Theres your inherent issue. I suspect your version of "talking to them" is sperging about your hobby for 30 minutes while they awkwardly try to find an excuse to leave. I love ants. I am a huge ant enthusiast. I love MtG, plenty of shows, anime, and all sorts of other nerdy things. But I can ta…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 01:28 AM
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It all boils down to the 36% rule, which exists all over and has been proven time and again to, on average, be how this system works.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 01:23 AM
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Its interesting that I see guys complain about childsupport I would have 0 issue with child support if I had the right to 'abort' my rights as a father before month 3 of the pregnancy. Basically if I can sign paperwork before month 3 and nope the fuck out and get off the hook for child support, then it's a level playing field. Currently men have 0 power to cancel fatherhood, which means we literally have 2 options if we dont want to be a father Option 1. Never ever have sex. Option 2. Have sex a…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 01:19 AM
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Is caring for your kid beta behavior or normal behavior? How fucked is it that people are unironically asking this. Caring for your child is normal same human behavior, and how you raise a functional adult that can get by in society. "Is it beta behavior" are you serious? Like are you trolling? Of course a man raises his kids. Jesus christ.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 01:13 AM
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Your the one that talked about not using logic lol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 01:11 AM
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you probably have no idea what im talking about I physically winced when I read that one. Woof. I hope you dont say shit like that irl. To real people physically in the same room as you. Are you purposefully trying to sound pretentious or are you trolling? Edit: oh shit you used 'scoff' unironically too. Double oof.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 01:02 AM
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not logic Well that pretty much says all there is to say lol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 12:12 AM
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Most people hate knowing they suck. But the reality of it is sex, like everything else, takes shit tonnes of practice to be good at. Guys who want low n counts know they suck at sex and want a partner who doesnt know how bad they are at sex, due to a lack of experience. Kinda like scrubs who refuse to go try out playing ranked matches on a game because itll instantly shatter the illusion that they think they are good at it. (You always suck and theres always a korean guy who's 100x better than y…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/20 11:15 PM
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It's impossible to tell because anyone who calls themself an alpha is inherently not an alpha. But considering the state of western society and its extreme lack of confident role models, I'd say the majority of men in the west take after.. that...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/20 09:10 PM
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My remark to high counts is "That's impressive " I dont have a min or max. If a girl with a high count wants a relationship with me, it makes me feel like a king, especially when I get informed that I was the best she has had yet. If you dont get told that, you just need to suck less at sex. Most men are scared of high n counts because they are insecure about getting compared to other men, because most men deep down know they never learned how to please a woman. Any amount of reading online, bro…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/20 09:01 PM
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As everyone knows, messing with alphas leads to pain Careful, you could cut yourself with all that edge. A bold statement like that, 'As everyone knows', makes you sound condescending.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/20 08:52 PM
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Allosexual men make up larger and larger portions of the dating pool as you get older, as the men who dont push for sex asap are pairing up with women who dont try to emotionally manipulate with sex. This leaves the dating pool past 30s mostly comprised of women using sex as a tool and men who only care about sex. Because treating sex as transactional and as a tool, and not a shared experience, means you are doomed to a chain of unhealthy failed relationships. Tl;dr the guys who dont fall for su…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/20 08:50 PM
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The moment you give women freedom (which includes sexual freedom) they start following their hypergamous instincts Thats a bold statement you've built your statement on top of. What makes you so certain that's the truth? Do you have a paper you can cite on that fact, or is that statement just an assumption you are making?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/20 08:46 PM
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into liking the opposite of these guys (betas with no options). Your logic is built on top of assuming confident men are the opposite of shitty men. That's like stating cats are the opposite of dogs and ferrets, fish, birds, chinchillas, hamsters, etc dont also exist as options.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/20 08:44 PM
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Being a creep invades someone elses consent, and disrespects there autonomy as a human. You are invading their personal space, ignoring boundaries, etc. Being a slut does none of these things, assuming your sex was all consensual. I dont see a logical comparison here.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/20 08:42 PM
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I respect your integrity.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/11/19 06:24 PM
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The nice thing abput automation is now neither of you need to track it for the other, the emotional burden is offloaded to technology. Im also the kind of guy that has a smart vacuum, google home, etc so, as you invest more into a smart home architecture, emotional burden gets lessened and lessened. Its nice when stuff works at least.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/11/19 04:34 PM
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I think the key there is to have three lists. His list, her list, and the floating tasks that someone at some point is gonna need to pick up and move to their lists. Which is why I like Jira, the tasks all start out unassigned and we grab what we can do. I can see "partner just sets everything to ultra high priority every time" being a huge pain though.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/11/19 04:32 PM
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Every long-distance runner I've ever met, man or woman, has a drawn look to them and looks older than they should. In my opinion though, this aged look typically looks really good. Less "Man past his prime" and more "Knows his shit and you best respect this guy" wise old man vibes. Its different and not quite the same, and I think most women in that age bracket find that "well aged" extremely attractive, as its a sign of health and fitness over a long period of time. It shows restraint, control,…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/11/19 06:48 AM
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Men value beauty, youth and femininity/submissiveness. Not a fan of being lumped in together as a group. Some men sure, but there are those of us that arent into any of that. Right off the bat, there are men that prefer older women. Men that prefer dominant women. Men that prefer masculine traits in women. I think it is at best misguided, at worst damaging, to lump all men together as being the same. We should be avoiding that at all costs, every man is different and we all want different things…
/r/WhereAllTheGoodMenAre26/11/19 06:35 AM
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I can just picture the "honey do" lists complete with SMART objectives, timelines As someone who runs his own private Jira server for tracking chores automatically, hooked up to my tablet on the wall to give a live feed of stuff I need to be on top on, that actually sounds extremely attractive. Been a huge pain trying to onboard my gf to use my system I have setup so we can auto-renew stuff, and even set to-dos a year from now like scheduling appointments and stuff. But thats me, Im a hyper orga…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/11/19 06:06 AM
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I mean, notice how she points out that the non-fuckboy has baggage and is an "all around mess"But the fuckboy doesnt have any baggage and isnt an all around mess, and is also attractive.If you have a socially adjusted, attractive man, who also doesn't have baggage, and is good in bed, why is it confusing you are attracted to him? Sounds like a keeper there.Typically the narrative is flipped. Attractive guy who is good in bed is the one hiding the baggage as their "downside"Whats the "downside" t…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/11/19 06:00 AM
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Isn’t it “soul sucking” to go to work every day and know you’ll have to do this until you retire or die Some of us enjoy our jobs, are good at them, and are our own bosses and are quite happy going out and having the satisfaction of really doing what we enjoy. Quite a lot of us actually lol. Isn’t the responsibility of having everything on your shoulders absolutely crushing? The woman in that post literally said she also has a career. If you are both breadwinners, why exactly do you have "everyt…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/11/19 05:52 AM
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So wait. What about the millions of us guys that are working jobs that arent brutal, cutting edge, and are comfy desk jobs? Asserting men are all working, or even primarily working, rough/cutting edge "soul sucking" jobs by the time they are in their 40s seems a bit much, no? Where do these guys fit into the equation?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/11/19 02:26 AM
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Too bad in most often cases it turns out the couple is sexually incompatible and they wasted literally YEARS waiting for their special moment. Source? I have never seen any numbers on this, but I have never seen any to the contrary either. But if this worked out for you, good for you. Thank you, I appreciate that. Really it was less about sexual compatibility and emotional compatibility. I wasn't 'waiting' 2 years for sex, because she is also my best friend and we just had tonnes of fun together…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/19 10:32 PM
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When random girls have sex with me, what exactly was the transaction. You not gonna bother answering this then? Please elaborate on what the transaction is. I mean, I will totally accept sex in hookup culture being an emotional or pleasure transaction, you make me feel good, I make you feel good. Nothin wrong with that. Sounds good to me, and if thats what you mean by transaction, then I guess I agree with you. If you're gonna start talking about how you gotta pay for the date or buy them dinner…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/19 10:24 PM
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Nah. Its because most states cant agree on where to draw the line between the two. So when you talk about it on a larger scale, you have to put them together, cause what may be rape in one state may still only be sexual assault in another. Thats all there is to it. Just the government being awkward and ineffecient. Nothing more complicated than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/19 09:28 PM
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When random girls have sex with me, what exactly was the transaction. I dont recall taking my wallet out at any point. Bro I think youve been paying for prostitutes. See there are these apps you can use now where you find girls who will fuck you and not ask for money, or anything actually. Its pretty great.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/19 09:24 PM
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Boys who view sex as a reward, view women as dispensaries for said rewards. Basically walking talking sex toys. They are entirely focused on whatever actions need to be taken that lead them to an orgasm. Nothing else matters to them. They view this as no different from buying a product from the store. When a woman doesnt fuck them after they paid for dinner, they have the same emotional reaction as if they bought something from the store and it 'didnt work' and the store refused to refund them. …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/19 09:21 PM
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You have now dug yourself so deep into your views youd rather believe Im lying than accept a guy out there was willing to wait for sex with his gf. Man that is depressing to hear. Genuingly. Your world view is a sad and depressing one. Like it sounds like life would be so stressful and frustrating, viewing all men as horny rapists and women as sexual objects. I could understand how that view leaves you jaded and angry and pissed all the time. Let me be incredibly clear. My gf and I have been tog…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/19 09:13 PM
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My gf did not want to have sex. If I had sex with her, that would be against her will and without consent. Which would be raping her. Thats not a strawman, thats cold hard fact. You need therapy. Still over here very much preferring to not be a rapist but I see I am talking to someone who doesnt share that view.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/19 08:20 PM
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Forcing someone who doesnt want sex, to have sex, is called rape. Id prefer not being a rapist, but thats just me.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/19 07:19 PM
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Oh man, great question. Assuming I can use any method to pick, I would flip a coin. The existential dread that I forced my childs sex on them as they grow up would always fuck with me, and Id constantly question if I made the right choice. Itd be a sinister voice in the back if my head, constantly quietly whispering 'but if you had chosen the other one, would this have happened...?' Coin flip would allow me to push it back to the fates and clear my conciousness. Assuming I am completely forced t…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/19 06:09 PM
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Nah. Just meant when my gf was ready for sex we had just had to make up for missed time, lol. You need therapy lol
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/19 03:52 AM
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My parents raised me to respect women and their boundaries.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/19 03:46 PM
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No, thats unfortunately not going to work for the type of info you are interested in, as the thing is humans dont have very good memories. It is exceptionally unlikely woman can accurately recall the size of penises. Just to test this out for myself I asked my girlfriend to use her hands to roughly estimate how big she thinks I am. She estimated nearly an entire inch and a half bigger than my actual size, despite the fact we've been together for 10 years. Which, I will note, did quite a bit to b…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/19 11:38 PM
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Selection of penis size is completely different from performance of penis size. The study would be more valuable if they took all the dildos home, used them, and then reported which ones gave them higher quantities of orgasms. But okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/19 10:00 PM
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I see. You are emasculated by dildos. Boy I sure am happy my masculinity isn't so fragile I was threatened by a block of latex. Also the fact you think most women use toys substantially larger than usual is hilarious. Go look up what size of toys are the best sellers. If you want to know, they are all less than 6 inches in size and generally substantially smaller than an average man's penis. The giant monster truck tier dildos are NOT the best sellers. Hell, this one is SUPER easy to go see for …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/19 08:34 PM
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Unfortunately if you look through that persons post history it is quite evident they also have a tonne of other flat earth conspiracy tier beliefs. I actually showed your statements to a few of my female friends and they were genuinely confused. They said several things, some more ad hominem than others, about how you must have a fundamental misunderstanding of female anatomy. Here though, let me instead of attacking you try and provide with you a simple explenation of why intercourse is quite p…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/19 08:11 PM
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Ok yes I see the point you are making. My proposed architecture would not change that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/19 04:01 PM
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The 'father abortion' in my post would be a complete severance. They would not have any custodial rights at all. Period.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/19 03:58 PM
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Sure, it is different, but women being entitled to bodily autonomy isn't a counterpoint to men being entitled to financial autonomy. Everyone is entitled to all of their types of autonomies. Religious autonomy, financial, social, biological, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/19 03:55 PM
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Im not the one in charge of defining it in each of the 51 states! If I was, yeah then the definition sure would be consistent. Unfortunately there are people that don't see the difference, and some that do.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/19 03:55 PM
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Eh. You should go count how many women run things in the states right now. It's still male dominated quite heavily. Whether thats a product of less woman running for positions, or inherent sexism in society though is its own whole can of worms. Whether women who would normally run choosing not to because of sexism growing up is also its own can of worms. Socioeconomic pressures are pretty complicated stuff and I certainly don't have the 8 year degree to even start digging into that!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/19 03:51 PM
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You missed the "owned" part in their sentence haha.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/19 03:43 PM
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If... if women don't enjoy sex... Then how on earth do these people explain women masturbating? Truly. What?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/19 03:42 PM
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You genuinely believe that women don't physically enjoy sex? I want you to like, really truly know thats some flat earth level statement. It leaves me emotionally stunned to see a bunch of people, men and women, all being like "Yeah obviously women don't enjoy sex, yes yes, women enjoying sex is a massive elaborate ruse to steal mens money and be provided for" It's the exact same gut sinking feeling I get when I walk into a flat earth discussion. "Yes yes, the earth is flat, being round is an el…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/19 03:42 PM
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Well my statement is also based on assuming it's obvious women should be allowed to have abortions, so that would have to be legal first of course!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/19 03:36 PM
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There are actually already mechanisms for this in the US and, by extension, most other legal systems. There are lots of "legally must notify of x" laws and, I'll be honest, I'd just say copy whatever mechanisms they use, which maybe what was said above is how it works. I honestly don't know, but uh, just copy those laws. There's already stuff for this, but I ain't no lawyer haha! For example, legally having to notice a tenant of accessing their property is a thing, right? So however thats handle…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/19 03:34 PM
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So how do you feel about adoption then?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/19 03:31 PM
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You have been doing quite a lot of ad hominem, aggression, antagonism, and attacking in this thread, and none of your posts really brought anything to the table. Do you think posting like this is going to sway my opinion or anything, or are you just here to vent? Cause it feels like you're prioritizing your own venting and don't actually intend to convince anyone here of anything. Do you honestly think being unnecessarily rude will suddenly make your statements hold more weight? Cause it doesnt.…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/19 03:30 PM
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forcing the women to let him out of paying support by threatening to adopt out her child. Thats like saying Abortion is overly complicated and is a mechanism for threaten killing a man's unborn child. It has nothing to do with the woman, and everything to do with the man's financial autonomy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/19 03:27 PM
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So how do you feel about adoption? Do parents that give their kids up for adoption deserve awful things?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/19 03:25 PM
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Boy I should have some sit down conversations with my girlfriend as to why she has been lying to me for 10 years then, lol. There are countless biological mechanisms that make the average women very much physically and psychologically enjoy having a man orgasm inside of her.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/19 03:25 PM
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"Surely if woman didn't want kids they would just use the pill, so why do they want abortion rights?" Unfortunately there are numerous reasons why its not that simple. Rape. Birth Control can fail. Accidents happen. Etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/19 03:22 PM
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I'm not trying to "help" because Im not trying to virtue signal or any such cruft. I simply hold the viewpoint because I believe men and women deserve equal rights. Feminism at its core means there isn't a "we", as soon as you start talking about "we" you've already sacrificed the core principle of feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/19 03:21 PM
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Though the first statement is true, I don't consider it a counterpoint. Reason being it would be the same as arguing women can't get abortions because they don't have 100% Body Autonomy, your body gets old and slowly dies without your consent and you can't do anything about that, so you also shouldn't be able to consent to abortions. It's logically misplaced.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/19 03:19 PM
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Innocent until proven guilty unfortunately still applies.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/19 03:17 PM
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She has the right to also give the child up just as he does there. You are concluding an unspoken contractual agreement through the process.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/19 10:26 AM
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She doesnt have to. She can also choose to give the child up to adoption, or abort it. It logically works out to the same. Let me ask you this to think about: What happens when the father of a child dies in an accident when the mother is 1 month pregnant?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/19 10:22 AM
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Alright, so I spent a fair bit of time thinking about this, because it really was a new and super valid point I havent heard on this yet, and I wanted to give it some really solid thought. So, some addendums: I think it also would be completely fair to also give women the same right I mentioned, a 'soft abortion' if you will, where she can sign off her rights to the child to the father, but still bare it 9 months, but once born its 100% his. Now, for your point... When the parent(s) put a child …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/19 10:18 AM
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Indeed. That person is the mother in this case. At which point she now has both shares, and she must make the decision whether she can handle that, and if not makes the choice between abortion, adoption, or taking on that burden.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/19 10:12 AM
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So what are your thoughts on putting children up for adoption? Accidents happen, how does your argument hold if the father, mother, or both are just straight up physically unable to take care of the child? What if the father is disabled, for example?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/19 10:10 AM
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Absolutely correct. And you think it happening to woman is awful, disgusting, evil, and selfish... right? So by extension, you should be horrified to imagine it happening to men constantly, all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/19 10:07 AM
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Excellent, but bares a supporting argument to go with it to specify the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/19 10:05 AM
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I would also be completely in favor of letting women also go through these legal bureaucratic processes, signing off her rights to the child and letting the father keep it. The reason your case feels like it wont happen is its unlikely a woman would bear a child to 9 months, then immediately give it up anyways, rather than just have an abortion. But I would indeed be fine with giving women this right as part of the package as a 'soft abortion', for women that don't want to have a physical aborti…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/19 10:04 AM
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Human rights are not 'paid for' though, the principle of a human right is you are entitled to it regardless of circumstances.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/19 10:00 AM
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I see. Would you find it unfortunate that a couple is unable to make the decision of who stays home to watch the baby based on their financial capabilities?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/19 09:59 AM
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Thats not the human right being discussed. The human right being discussed is: "Financial autonomy with respect to having a child" Women, have that right also baked into their bodily autonomy right, which is nice. Two for one value deal and whatnot. Men however lack that human right. You are discussing the right to bodily autonomy, which both men and women have. I am discussing the right to socioeconomic autonomy, which woman have but men lack. Does that make sense?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/19 09:50 AM
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Women do not get anything out of having a man cum in them. Men are incentivised to do this because it feels good. Considering your degree in Ethology, I am going to presume you are making this statement from a biological game theory perspective, and not from a literal perspective. Woman get a lot out of being came inside of, literally speaking, a massive dopamine and endorphin kick to start, but they also evolved to have that kick. Game theory wise, yes, it is disadvantageous to be pregnant in t…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/19 09:42 AM
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I certainly would. Do you think that "You are financially ruined for the rest of your life" is much different from "You are physically wounded for the rest of your life"? In many cases, for example sports, musicians, etc, the two are one and the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/19 09:29 AM
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That is not justice then. That is retribution. Justice seeks to balance the scales. Retribution seeks to tip it back and forth.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/19 09:28 AM
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https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/09/02/statutory-rape-victim-child-support/14953965/ First result I found googling "man paid child support to his rapist" but there are plenty more. We are in agreement on that. Is there a reason then you think that telling a man "If you don't want a kid don't have sex" is any different from telling the same to a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/19 09:27 AM
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What are your thoughts on men being allowed Paternal leave to care for the child?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/19 09:23 AM
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Ad hominem is not necessary here. I do consider it to be insulting towards women, as I am a feminist. As a feminist I believe giving a woman a human right, but then denying it from men, is demeaning and treats women special. Women do not need to be treated special, they deserve to be treated fairly, justly, and deserve to have all the same human rights as a man, or equivalent. For example, I believe both men and woman deserve maternal/paternal leave. By your logic, only women deserve maternal le…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/19 09:23 AM
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I would argue that the majority of loving father's would, while watching their SO in excruciating pain, if handed a device that allowed them to take on a portion of her pain to alleviate it, would use it without hesitation. I would put money on it. Very large sums of money.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/19 09:19 AM
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This is a very valid point and bares consideration.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/19 09:18 AM
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What are your thoughts then regarding abortion with respect to rape?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/19 09:18 AM
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I would actually argue the much larger stop gap is bureaucracy. I feel the legal system works currently far too slow for a man to be capable of going through all the described steps in under 2 months.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/19 09:17 AM
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Are you not pro choice for women then? Would you not agree that: "If you don't want a kid then don't have sex" is a sword that cuts both ways on men and women? I'd be curious then about your stance on: Men getting raped by women who then get pregnant, and the man has to pay child support for a child that was a product of his rape. The rape was indeed ruled as a rape in court, yet the man still had to pay child support. This is a thing that happens sometimes, look it up. Woman gets raped, and is …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/19 09:16 AM
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I believe not giving men this right is offensive to women, as it belittles them. If men do not have this right, I interpret it as: Men are reasonable, level headed individuals who should know better. Woman are fickle and all they wanna do is have babies, so they should be allowed to have abortions because they can't handle responsibility. It actually seems demeaning to woman that men are not held to the same standard as them. I believe both men and women should have this right. Let me word it th…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/19 09:12 AM
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Indeed, that is why I chose 2 months and 3 months as the respective times, which are what most states and countries have agreed on.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/19 09:07 AM
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This is why my statement included giving men the capability to ask for an extension based on when they found out they were a father. Example, a man is introduced to a 3 year old son he never even knew he had. He is able to take this to court and, if he can prove the woman never tried very hard or at all to inform him before this, he can be granted the ability to now make his decision retroactively and thus cancel any child support and etc. Would you consider that a fair compromise?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/19 09:06 AM
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Fair, but would you not consider it justice to seek out getting as close to a balanced and fair system as we can get, with our physical limitations? Do you consider the current system to be fair and equal with respect to male vs female anatomy? I believe it is currently not just and is imbalanced, even correcting for the fact we have 'different plumbing'
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/19 09:04 AM
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What are your thoughts on the fact that, chances are there would be many less children being brought into dysfunctional homes, as the "Have a baby to rope him in" gambit is a card removed from such women's decks? Being able to play that card, less children would be used as manipulation tactics to get father's money or force them to stay around. Would you consider that a good thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/19 09:02 AM
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Do you believe parents should not have the right to put children up for adoption? I'd like to hear an argument for why men should not be allowed to give up fatherhood of a child that isn't born yet, that also cannot be used to argue parents are legally not allowed to put children up for adoption, from you. If you would :)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/19 08:58 AM
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So would you be in favor of this then, if proposed, as it would hold people accountable that outta be accountable.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/19 08:56 AM
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The unanimous surrender point is also a great one!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/19 08:36 AM
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Birth control is unnatural Plenty of animals commit birth control though. Hell they do it in a substantially more intense and psychotic way than humans do. If a dog can't provide for her pups, she eats them Same goes for most mammals. Humans trying their best to provide for a child that they can't at all take on is actually whats unnatural, no other mammal does that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/19 08:26 AM
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I once was told that only a minority of women are super into casual sex and most women are more interested in relationships Thats just wrong. Sex is fun, pleasurable, and our core evolutionary drive. There is literally no reason to believe woman don't enjoy having lots of sex. They do. Thats all there is to it. Society likes to try and convince everyone that women shouldn't enjoy having lots of sex, but also somehow should be sexualised constantly. It's this weird catch-22 where if they don't ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/19 08:08 AM
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Sexual Assault and Rape have a very blurry line between them, because many states can't decided where the line is. It seems like it should be pretty easy, and yet here we are... So they have to lump it together when talking about it on a national scale. Second: A lot more men commit rape than you may realize, but not on purpose. The western education has unfortunately failed to really educate people on what is rape. This results in a LOT of guys doing stuff that they genuingly did not know was r…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/19 08:05 AM
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Because not everyone can agree on the definition of Rape vs Sexual Assault, sadly. So they have to lump them together because in some places an act is just Sexual Assault, and in other places its Rape. Thats all there is to it. No conspiracy. Just a lot of people who can't agree on where the line is between rape and sexual assault.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/19 08:02 AM
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Toxic Masculinty is, not Masculinity. Toxic Masculinity was a term coined by a Men's Rights Activist a long time ago, referring to hyper masculine behaviors that were specifically with the intent of harming the individual or those around them, either physically or mentally. Toxic Masculinity is basically Masculine ideas being twisted to hurt people, damage society, and hoid us back. Masculinity however is just as strong and thriving as ever. Picking unnecessary fights at bars in order to assert …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/19 08:00 AM
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I'd like to direct you to the fact this phenomena actually was occurring long before social media existed over in Japan, when the internet was still fresh and new. Google 'Hikikomori' I'd also like to direct you to 'The Beautiful Ones', or the 'Mouse/Rat Utopia' experiments. What we have time and time again reproduced in laboratory experiments, is mammals when presented with fathomless levels of abundance, multiply, but then collapse as a society. Several patterns emerge time and again. A subset…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/19 07:25 AM
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Probably one of the biggest defining parts of my GF and I's relationship was during our third year together, when she started working at the same kitchen I worked at. I had been working there for about a year, she needed a job, we were moving in together and needed cash, my chef needed more workers, etc. It worked out well, and we ended up both being on the same line working fryers and appies together, then pans and ovens. We worked in the same kitchens for nearly 5 years, and there's an incredi…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/19 07:20 AM
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My girlfriend and I did not have sex until our second year of dating. We did however start very young, we started at 16/17 respectively, and had sex when 18/19. Combination of statuatory rape laws, playing it safe, her being a very cautious person, me respecting boundaries and not actually in a huge hurry to have sex anyways (we fooled around a lot before but never had actual sex) Was worth the wait though, as we are now approaching our tenth anniversary :)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/19 07:13 AM
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Great question! Female apes primarily exist in non monagomous colonies, actually this even extends often to most mammals. To maximize fertility health, mammals evolved a cleaning process to maximize average fertility which we know to be the Menstrual Cycle. Regular flushing of the menstrual lining, of course, substantially increases successful fertility. During the menstrual period, however, females are unavailable to mate. To simplify things and maximize sperm usage, apes have evolved to reject…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/19 07:11 AM
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This has been studied VERY extensively, and it seems to be linked to testosterone. Roid rage, high testosterone levels. BOTH male and female innmates in US prisons were examined and showed significantly higher testosterone levels than the average person of their sex. Testosterone has been linked to aggression, risk taking, and lower empathy. However, not directly. It just happens to be whatever it is (we havent found it yet) that tells your body to produce more testosterone, also tells your brai…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 07:01 PM
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Valuing a life purely by wealth is a poor way to view the world, as you'll always find people with more wealth than you, and thus you are poor in comparison :) I view a persons success by what they have accomplished. I am training to become a teacher, and currently work as a line cook. Every day my food sates the hunger of hundreds of people, and when I am a teacher the students I teach will go on to help mankind progress forward. Thats what I measure my standard of life by. What I do for the wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 06:55 PM
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Close, its from Abrahamic views. Hetero sex is fine, but its the very act of sex that is considered dirty. In classic Catholicism teachings, sex is pretty terribad. Consider this: Lust is one of the seven deadly sins. Promiscuity has literally its own special circle of hell according to the religion. Imagine the late 1000s, where Catholicism has a very potent and strong foothold in europe and west asia. Whatever they said went. And that meant slut shaming was literally doctrine. Being a slut mea…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 06:49 PM
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Honestly, I am not a lawyer. I do not know to what extent in every single country and province/state exactly how hard it would be to wrongfully convict a man of rape. Here's some things you need to take into account: 1: He doesnt need to get convicted, he doesn't even need to be directly accused. There are plenty of examples of guys in important parts of their life losing everything because some woman decided to say he was a rapist when he wasn't. 2: There could very well be states where it is p…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 06:38 PM
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If media experiences backlash for its advertising methods, it will stop using them. That is, if you think their methods are wrong. Thats up to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/15 01:53 AM
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The first step to solving a problem is recognizing it exists, and then trying to find a solution. Take the enslavement of africans in america. For the longest time, the average american didn't consider slavery to be wrong or 'bad'. They viewed it as 'just how things outta be, if it wasn't supposed to be like this, then how come its happening?' This is a naive view to take, but common. People like to think we live in a wonderful utopia with most of our basic problems solved. We like to turn blind…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/15 12:09 AM
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This is evidence, not proof.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/15 11:52 PM
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You think every woman thinks the exact same way. Some women want to be on a pedestal. Some don't. Same goes for men. Stop assuming everyone thinks exactly the same way.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/15 11:50 PM
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_syndrome This should have most of the info you'd need, sources below have more detailed info you might find of interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/15 11:49 PM
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Been with my SO for over 5 years now. We have a special dynamic that I don't see often. We work in a kitchen, 8 hours a day in blinding heat and suffocating smoke and oil. Shit fucking sucks, but itd suck a helluva lot more if we didn't have each other. For 4 years we've been a team, everything we do, we do together. IF I were to describe my girlfriend (soon to be fiance) it'd be much closer to a wingman at my back than a love interest. At work, we don't have time for our relationship, job has t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/15 11:41 PM
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Yes, for example, she can testify what happened before she blacked out. But, the most important and valuable testimonies will come from third parties. If a third party says "Yeah, I know that guy, the girl was passed out and he said he'd take her upstairs to sleep..." Thats gonna make any alibi the potential rapist has go down in flames. This is why a lot of date rapists won't do anything to the girl until they have her alone, so no one can say what happened there and they are in the clear... Wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/15 11:32 PM
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I think its a product of societies ever increasing ability to interact with others. Let me lay this out here: As humans gather into groups, we start gaining a group voice. Subreddits are great examples of this. Naturally over time groups of people develop cultures. There are taboos, and as a group they define morals within their society that adhere to what they as a collective group believe in. Anyone who disagrees are either ostracised or leave the group of their own volition, or change their m…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/15 11:26 PM
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Here's the flaw in both arguments. It assumes every single man of the 3.5 billion in this world all view sex as the exact same thing, and every single of 3.5 billion women view it as the same thing. Assuming everyone thinks the same way is the first step to looking like an idiot when you encounter someone who thinks differently. And crazy as it sounds, pretty much no one thinks the exact same way about anything. Some men view sex as a commodity that can be bought, some view it as a 'conquest' of…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/15 11:16 PM
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Just because a person is dominant or passive doesn't mean they have a better or worse perspective on either. Here; look at it this way. Lets take a someone, person A, who is incredibly submissive, a 0/10 on the passive->aggressive scale, and lets take person B, a 10/10 ultra dominant person on the scale. You can make a solid argument for either side being more knowledgeable about how to be dominant. Why? Obviously person B has an easy argument, it's easy to have a perspective on something you ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/15 11:11 PM
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Actually, for the most part its one of the few terms that is generally used correctly. Id say the reason for this isnt because of anything being done on their behalf, but because objectification of women is actually the only issue that is prominent in first world countries today. I mean men get objectified too, but its hard to measure how much a gender gets objectified since both are so widespread. However, in the end, its the only problem feminism talks about that is actually still a problem we…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/15 11:05 PM
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Right, its based on prosecution. Either could get convicted of rape if the other proved it. Good luck proving it without any witnesses though.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/14 08:04 PM
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This is such an incredibly complex subject, anyone who answers here either way has no idea what they are talking about. You can't prove this as a yes or a no. -What constitutes a dysfunctional family? Is it a boolean or scalar value? Is there a range of 0-10 of how dysfunctional my family was? How do we even measure or categorize that?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/14 07:57 PM
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"There is a very serious crisis of masculinity. Many boys grow up without fathers and lack male role models. Consequently they have problems with women, earning respect from their peer group, and finding their identity" Can we get some proof of this? I have never seen any papers written that connect these two. "Many masculine men come from STEM backgrounds and lack the writing skills required to produce interesting polished content. On the other hand, men with English and Journalism degrees poss…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/14 07:54 PM
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Are you trying to say that because a person knowns they have a risk of getting raped, if they get raped, its not rape? Sorry, but this just isn't a thing to debate with me, Im not saying what is right/wrong here, Im just reiterating the law. Don't like it? Go change the law. But you can't just say something isn't rape because you don't think it is. That's not going to hold up in court very well. It's still rape according to the rest of the court.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/14 07:49 PM
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This is a cool example of human genetics. So, lets talk about survival and diversity. See, diversity is a good thing in a species. The big guys sure look big and strong, but there are some huge downsides to such size. First off, human life span is exponentially shorter inversely rated to hight. Why? Bigger body means more blood to pump for your heart, and it will fail at an earlier age. This is just a scientific fact. But the tradeoff in nature is they are stronger and can accomplish physical go…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/14 07:47 PM
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There is no such statistic as far as I am aware. This concept purely comes from anecdotal tales from redpillers. The fact is this: You would need this accurate, unbiased sample to find out the answer to your question: How often women cheat on their significant other because they found another more attractive man vs how often men cheat on their SO because they found another more attractive woman. Women cheating more often on their men could arise from men being/acting unattractive post marriage m…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/14 07:37 PM
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"even if he has to swallow his pride about his partners high partner count." There's ya problem right there.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/14 07:26 PM
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My gf and I want kids, but we aren't idiots and are going to live together for at least 5 years before marriage is a thing. @ 3/5 years so far, and we get along fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/14 07:25 PM
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Can we defend these behaviours? Not really, but there aren't any laws against being a bitch. Everything you are describing is the traits of a narcissist. Narcissism generally arises in people who just never grew up (read: a lot of people nowadays) This comes from a massive variety of reasons, from how they were raised (probably by narcissistic parents) the morals taught to her by society (because media want you to be a narcissist so you buy their shit) and just a lack of responsibility. Responsi…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/14 07:23 PM
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A lot of men are turned off by a woman who is a 'slut', and will avoid them. Think about girls who get picked on in highschool and rumours get spread around about how she has had a bunch of sex, and people start making fun of her. That's the ideology of our society, a guy has a bunch of sex and he becomes a man, a girl has a bunch of sex and becomes a slut. This is actually a very odd concept compared to the rest of human history, before the mass spread of Catholicism sex was an awesome thing to…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/14 07:15 PM
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Well, consider this: Can a drunk man rape a non drunk woman? If yes, then a drunk man can also rape a drunk woman, and a drunk woman can also rape a drunk man too. The law doesn't care about the defendant in terms of prosocution, only the defendant's state. 'But I was drunk' Isn't a good defence. There is no consent involved in being a rapist, there is consent in getting raped. The real issue is it's pretty much fucking impossible to prove if anyone raped anyone without a witness, since other th…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/14 07:11 PM
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A person cannot give consent to sex while intoxicated, goes for men and women. In fact, you can't give consent to anything while under the influence. Its a blurry line, but the law has drawn the line on the side of better safe than sorry. Don't like it? Take it up with politicians, I'm not saying it is right/wrong, but that is how it is. Drunk sex is rape, according to the law. Other examples: Any kind of legally binding contract can also be contested if you signed it while under the influence o…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/14 11:12 AM
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It has its uses. Fight or flight response still hasn't been bred out of our genetics because it saves peoples lives. Sometimes it has bad effects, its the source of logical fallacies.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/14 09:59 AM
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Well, this is complicated. First off: Are they aware I exist? Am I just walking out of the abthroom and some dude is hitting on my girl because he thinks shes single? If so I walk up and ask, "Hey, whats up" If he knows I exist, and then is being an asshole and hitting on my girlfriend anyways (Do people actually do this? Never seen or heard of it happening, like does he actually think he has a chance?) I size the situation up. Can I fight him? Will he fuck me up, or do I stand a good chance? Ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/14 09:57 AM
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Talk to your school and ask them to stop teaching boys that rape is okay. Oh wait, do we do that? Nope. I don't get this ideology, see, the thing is we don't each boys that rape is okay, you ask any man on the street what he thinks about rape and he'll tell you its a terrible crime "Rapists deserve to get raped in jail" "Rape is the worst thing you can do" etc etc No one thinks rape is okay, that's fucking stupid. The issue is most people don't understand what rape IS You ask someone, a girl is …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/14 09:44 AM
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Same reason for most things we find attractive: its a sign of good health. Big tits, tight ass, muscles on men, broad shoulders, shiny hair, clean fingernails, smooth skin, etc etc. The better fed you are in your early life, the taller you grow. Malnutrition has the most noticeable effect on breast size in women and height in men. The stronger and fitter you look, the more sexually attractive you are at first glance. BUT, that only gets you through the gate. Just because you are good looking doe…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/14 09:38 AM
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Depends: If I can prove it happened in court of law without worrying about the guy walking (IE, we have plenty of evidence) then I don't need revenge. You know what happens to rapists in prison, especially child rapists? Terrible, terrible things. That's good enough for me. If I won't be able to prove it in court of law? Time to get my hands dirty.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/14 09:34 AM
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tl;dr: You stick your dick in the crazy and get bit, its your fault. But: Sometimes the crazy doesn't look crazy, and it was being deceptive to get your dick. That's not your fault then.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/14 09:32 AM
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The fact that these people decided to coin a naming convention for a motherfucking presidential outrage to describe young adults writing potentially biased news articles about video games on websites no one cares about shows how fucking far they have their heads shoved up their asses. Do people actually think gaming media is unbiased? Like who the hell is going to be like "Holy SHIT, nintendo magazine has been paying people money to give their games fake positive reviews? WHAT A TWIST" This shit…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/14 09:31 AM
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The qeustions I ask: Why the fuck is a grown adult not interested in sex? Either their libido has crashed so hard they need to see a doctor because they might have a serious condition, or they are satisfying it some other way (ahem, cheating, ahem) A sane person only cuts off sex for a few reasons: They have found a better way to satisfy their libido. (uh oh) They don't have a libido at all anymore (See a sex therapist/doctor) They are using it as a form of power/control (divorce, asap, thats fu…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/14 09:28 AM
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Well, first off, feminism didn't invent the concept of objectifying, that is a very old word thats been around for way longer. Objectifying is when you take a living person or thing and treat it as an object. And no, women aren't the only people/things to get objectified. Rich couples that buy a puppy and treat it liked a stuffed toy and then abandon it when it isn't cute and cuddly anymore? Objectification. Women that only date men for their money, aka goldiggers? Objectification. Parents that …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/14 09:24 AM
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Shoulder widith as well. Also consider your wardrobe. You can be good looking but if you look like a fucking slob and can't talk to women, you are going to have a bad time.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/14 09:18 AM
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Women have been taught in society that sex is some kind of commodity they can trade for other commodities. How many female prostitutes are their vs male prostitutes, and of those male prostitutes, how many of them are homosexual prostitutes? Who engages 'purchasing' sex more often, men or women? This is how society has categorized sex. Sex is something a women consents to (according to laws), and men perform on them. Which is fucked up. I wouldn't be surprised to see this stemming from the simpl…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/14 09:17 AM
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The one who seems the most likely to adhere to the following: Be capable of holding down a long term job. Be capable of raising and looking after a child. Be capable of wisely spending money. Be relatively good looking, at least a 7. Be sound of mind, enough that she won't do something fucking retarded like drown my kids or take off randomly on me. In other words: Whichever one is an adult. I don't date children, and from my experience, most women over the age of 20 who are not a child anymore a…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/14 09:02 AM
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Because some feminists actually do care about men and their problems. They are a dwindling minority, but exist. Other men think 'If I pretend to be a feminist, I'll be drowning in the pussy"... hahahaha. Other men have been told that feminism is a movement about equality of gender, and believe whatever they are told. "You believe in equality?! You are a feminist!" Despite the fact that its hard to label a group of hundreds of millions of people as any one thing in particular. I mean you go ahead…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/14 08:57 AM
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No matter how you go about your methods, if your method is the following: I do x in order to get sex from a woman, it didn't work. You already fucked up. You might get sex sometimes, but you won't get love and compassion. Sure it might be fun when you are young, but in the end you will feel cold and empty inside and it won't be the same. You have to ask a serious question: Do you want a lover or do you want to have sex? You wanna have sex? There's plenty of ways to get it, but thats ALL you'll g…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/14 08:52 AM
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If a woman with a high libido finds out the best way to get sex from men is to act like she has a low libido, then logic dictates she'll do that. Society has taught women sex=bad, and purity=good, to the point its frequently fetishized. We tell women to not have sex, then ask them for sex and get mad when they don't 'put out' We expect women to not be sluts, but also expect them to have sex with any man who buys her a steak dinner. End result: Why the hell would you expect things to be any other…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/14 08:32 AM
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See: bias by confirmation. If it works for you it works, but what may work for one relationship might not apply to the next.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/14 08:24 AM
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Redpill men and Feminazis are reactions to the opposite side. Asshole redpill men breed feminazis hurt by their attitude, and redpill assholes are bred from the twisted ideals of feminazis. Not all feminists and MRAs are like that, but you don't hear their opinions or about them because they don't sit debating each other in echo chambers on the internet, they're both busy actually being active in making real changes. So all you hear about/from are the type of people you describe in your post. Ed…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/14 08:22 AM
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