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Oh, wow, this is excellent; thank you for writing this up!
/r/RedPillWives15/04/16 12:05 AM
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Stingray, I'm always so grateful for your posts in this sub. Not the person you were responding to, but this was something I think I needed to read (and will be saving). Thank you.
/r/RedPillWomen13/11/15 12:12 PM
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I'm always in such awe when I see photos of Christie Brinkley and I would absolutely love to know her skincare routine!
/r/RedPillWomen13/11/15 11:58 AM
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I love that blog, extremely well written and with great advice! OP, in addition to the article Phantom linked, you may want to take a look at this quick faq and posts on the purpose of creating mood boards and utilizing pinterest + "what to buy first" as you experiment with and ease into your style.
/r/RedPillWomen13/11/15 11:52 AM
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I know I have other lists saved somewhere; if I find them, I'll make sure to update! For now, though, some quick contributions: What Women Never Hear (relational blog) Elegant Woman (manners, etiquette, etc) Emily Post (manners, etiquette, etc) Dress like a Parisian (good starting place for simple and straightforward style/beauty advice) The Feminine Woman (relational blog) The Fascinating Woman (based off the book "Secrets of Fascinating Womanhood")
/r/RedPillWomen01/11/15 04:24 PM
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Ah, you're very sweet. :) I'm glad you found the above helpful - good luck with the upcoming event!
/r/RedPillWomen24/10/15 09:16 PM
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I bought this book awhile ago, when I first started poking around this sub, based off a post you made then on it. :) It's still in my TBR pile, but I'll be keeping a lookout for your review here!
/r/RedPillWomen23/10/15 11:58 AM
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I agree you may not be able to find a copy in person, but perhaps you can order it online and have it delivered to where you are? I did a quick search and while I can’t personally vouch for any of these sellers, the book is listed on: Amazon / Alibris / AbeBooks - if anything, contact the seller, see if they're willing to ship to where you are, or, alternatively, you could set up some sort of intermediary (so seller could ship to a friend or a certain location and then from there the book will b…
/r/RedPillWomen23/10/15 11:56 AM
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The small things definitely count. Showing basic manners, of "please" and "thank you," things learned in childhood, can go a long way in strengthening a relationship.
/r/RedPillWomen22/10/15 03:50 PM
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"The life-changing magic of tidying up" by Marie Kondo. I feel like I say this everywhere and anywhere I see this book/author pops up on Reddit, but the KonMari method has been such a wonderful (and what gets me, is that it's so simple!) blessing in my life - and not just for decluttering and organizing possessions, I've found. Definitely give it a read, if you get the chance!
/r/RedPillWomen14/09/15 03:09 PM
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^ In addition to the above suggestions by StingrayVC and freebumblebee, you should alsoclick around /r/Naturalhair - the sub doesn't seem to be super active, but they are more focused in their scope; plus, the info posted in the sidebar should be a nice starting point in figuring out and understanding your hair (and finding nice styles that work with short hair, too!).
/r/RedPillWomen25/08/15 01:06 PM
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Still, I have the feeling men don't approach me because they assume I'm the stereotypical ghetto welfare queen. I don't often get the chance to prove I'm not like that. If a person's making a split moment judgement and all they have to go off is your looks, if you have a traditionally feminine in appearance (ex1, ex2), "stereotypical ghetto welfare queen" should not be the first thought to jump to mind (for example, I can see why some may think that right off the bat for New York of reality tv f…
/r/RedPillWomen25/08/15 01:05 PM
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Books by Nancy Cobb & Connie Grigbsy are good; I found them to be similar to Laura Doyle's books (I'll vouch for the "How To" books, haven't read 'The Politically Incorrect Wife', but I hear good things about it). I made a few other suggestions over here as well. If she likes 'Models' and is interested in learning more about gender differences/interactions from the male perspective, I think she'll probably be more open to reading books by those like David Deida (I believe 'The Way of the Superio…
/r/RedPillWomen18/08/15 01:42 PM
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I think it's a good idea that another mod has been added and I'm glad to hear it's you - congrats, Camille!
/r/RedPillWomen18/08/15 11:43 AM
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^ Agreed. OP, I was going to say pretty much what _whistler has already stated above - your dad just wants to make sure your SO can actually take care of you. I think it's understandable if your dad is 'testing' (and I agree, it's probably subconscious) since your SO's style is very different from his own. Just..hang back for a bit, and watch to see how things are playing out between the two of them.
/r/RedPillWomen15/08/15 08:47 PM
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shorthand for You Need A Budget, I assume.
/r/RedPillWomen15/08/15 08:40 PM
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I'm visiting home and we have not seen each other in 2 weeks and will be reuniting very soon and all I can think about is how I wish I could just not have to be naked when we have sex or avoid it all together. And I love sex. And I love it naked. And when the light is on and we can see each other. And with him. Normally, at least. I want to feel like that again. If you want to feel like that again, you have to make an effort to do so and be so. When you are together, you make a conscious decisio…
/r/RedPillWomen15/08/15 08:38 PM
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I hung frames and floating shelves and display this stuff now. This is lovely, honestly.
/r/RedPillWomen04/08/15 03:19 PM
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^ OP, you asked what you should do in the morning, how to handle things. This, all of what lord-denning said above, is what you should do next.
/r/RedPillWomen04/08/15 12:08 PM
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but damn....know where your cash is. I'm going to make the assumption he received much more than $500 if he was willing to blow through that amount so quickly. If that's the case, then most likely, he is very aware of where his "cash is" and he felt no qualms about taking the above amount to spend on the two of you and release steam. If last night was a big flag for you though (and I think it is because you mentioned in your op how this money was more than your yearly income and now you believe …
/r/RedPillWomen04/08/15 12:06 PM
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Fantastic answer. Not my thread, but thank you for sharing your thoughts - I'm enjoying reading your responses in this sub, thus far. =- (and so I don't clog up the thread, I'll spin off from here): OP (/u/mathpineapple ), This just pay off your debt. That is what he said. That is what he meant. is exactly what you should do. Very simple, very straight to the point. When you go to work, you do exactly what the boss tells you, right? If, on day one of a new job, your boss said "answer phones and …
/r/RedPillWomen04/08/15 11:48 AM
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The paintball thing, Sal saying he's doing this for his kids (staying in the relationship? doing the interview?), the fact that he's employed by the show and the people heckling him are his coworkers...this video is disturbing on so many levels.
/r/RedPillWomen30/07/15 01:36 PM
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What kind of school system were you in and how much time was actually given to sex ed (a few weeks, a semester, a year)? Kudos to them for even trying to touch base on all of the above!
/r/RedPillWomen27/07/15 03:28 PM
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yea I didn't find too much support and talk of acceptance of these realities like there is on the RP, so I'm glad to see some of you ladies have had similar thoughts are struggles as you were going about bettering yourselves. It's been touched on before, mainly through similar threads (example), but I think I've noticed it more from members talking about it in passing. Also, I believe members here, if they're coming in completely fresh faced and new, tend to go through the stages more privately,…
/r/RedPillWomen26/07/15 12:24 PM
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Sounds to me that you like him in a platonic way and you’re not particularly interested in changing the current dynamic by adding casual encounters with Dave to it. He may be ignoring your messages for one or multiple reasons. Whatever it is, you know that at least in this very moment, he’s not invested in spending his time helping you practice, so you need to act accordingly. Stop messaging him (just stop cold, no 'since I haven't heard from you, goodbye' texts or emails) and find someone else …
/r/RedPillWomen26/07/15 06:47 AM
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The context I read it in, the description of the house and the area sounds so picturesque, it'd be difficult to take a person seriously - at least, not without some exasperation - if they spend part of their free vacation complaining and picking fights when there's all this beauty around. And, I'm assuming you meant to ask /u/Simpsondimsum for the second part of your post. Unless you specifically tag someone (the '/u/' before a username), only the person you directly respond to will get a notifi…
/r/RedPillWomen18/07/15 01:18 AM
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Alright, good, I'm glad you were quick to contact the school! At least you now know where you stand on that front and can plan your next moves with a clear head. I think we won't fight that much, I'm just scared, I guess. I'm still puzzled over this, tbh - why is apprehension the 'default' emotion you feel when you think about spending time/moving in with your SO, even for a short period of time? You ask the sub to tell you what decision to make, but you're not really giving anything to go off o…
/r/RedPillWomen16/07/15 10:48 AM
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If she's up for it, yes. The more she's out there, doing something, the more comfortable she'll get with the residents, other volunteers and employees, the environment as a whole. And after awhile, if she wants more of a 'challenge'/wants to take on more responsibility, but would like to do so at a place she has built up some confidence and familiarity with how things function and runs, she can look into branching out into other roles at the home (kinda 'big fish in little pond vs small fry in v…
/r/RedPillWomen16/07/15 08:28 AM
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Does she work or volunteer with any consistency? Working or volunteering time with kids, the elderly, animals, recycling, whatever interest her puts her out there and around others. She can socialize a little, but because there’s always work to be done, if she’s feeling overwhelmed at any point, she can excuse herself and focus her attention on the tasks at hand. Also, in a way, helps with “stage fright” - she doesn't have to worry about being the center of attention (with public speaking course…
/r/RedPillWomen16/07/15 12:24 AM
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How many credits are you short of? Four difficult upper level courses is going to need a considerable amount of time, more so than if you only needed to take one simple elective. Have you talked to the dean of your college/department head of your major/professors of the class(es) you need to take? Have you followed up with them? They may be willing to work with you - allow you to do an distance/online course, sign on for an Independent Study project, take the class elsewhere and transfer the equ…
/r/RedPillWomen15/07/15 11:55 PM
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Here's a short explanation and some examples (another one here). I don't think it's necessarily a bad thing, but in situations where a person knows they shouldn't be doing something they're currently doing, rationalizing out why it's okay for the short term can lead to negative long term repercussions (having an affair leads to a divorce; stealing from work leads to being fired or going to jail, etc)
/r/RedPillWomen11/07/15 01:50 PM
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Thank you for reading this and please talk to me. Please don't tell me to move on because at this point I cannot even believe this is happening. I want to try. I find it really irritating that people post threads, hoping for honest feedback, but first tell the readers they "better not say 'x'" - what, then, is the point of asking for opinions? Until our last scuffle our relationship was perfect. No. Ten attempts at breaking up, the majority started by your ex (and, yes, she is your ex) does not …
/r/RedPillWomen11/07/15 01:21 PM
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Thank you for the recommendations!
/r/RedPillWomen08/07/15 11:22 AM
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Popping in to say welcome (welcome!) and also to say that I love your username - honestly makes me smile every time I scroll by it! :)
/r/RedPillWomen07/07/15 11:35 PM
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Oil pulling is also good if you have the patience. Do you have a preference on what type of oil to use? Sesame Oil has always been my go to, but I feel like I oughta branch out every once in awhile...
/r/RedPillWomen07/07/15 11:31 PM
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Honestly, that's how i feel too. Then what are you doing?
/r/RedPillWomen07/07/15 11:17 PM
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Others have covered the likelihood of things ending, but this post is mainly working with the idea that he decides to maintain the relationship. There are a few things I want to bring up and hope you're aware of: Length of Relationship You two have been in a relationship for six months which is still young – and you’ve been gone for a portion of it (how long is this trip?). Did you know each other long, beforehand or did you two meet and start dating immediately? You are 22, your SO is how old? …
/r/RedPillWomen05/07/15 11:42 AM
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he started asking about one of my ex's. Why this one in particular (or, do you mean he asked about one then asked about others)? Do they know each other, work together, anything like that?
/r/RedPillWomen04/07/15 01:59 PM
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Just like with anything in life, you have weigh the pros and cons to figure out what you would consider to be drawbacks and/or benefits. There are some aspects that are objective ( a big city will have more people by the virtue of being a big city), but you still have to view that with an eye towards your personal likes and dislikes (a religious, marriage minded, 'salt of the earth' type individual may have an better time living in Omaha, Nebraska rather than Las Vegas, Nevada....both locations …
/r/RedPillWomen03/07/15 02:26 PM
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I feel like most men in my age range/friend group (I'm 19) are immersed in the hookup culture. (…) whenever I meet a guy, all they want is sex. (…) I don't give them sex, but that causes them to leave. You didn’t really talk about this in your op, but I’m curious about sort of timeline you follow with these guys and how your interactions (from initial meeting) generally go …how you filter the guys you meet, where do you meet, how long have you known them, how well do you know them, etc.). Are yo…
/r/RedPillWomen03/07/15 02:25 PM
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I promise you he hasn't changed one iota. He still expects you to defer. He's just concluded that you aren't going to, and that it's pointless to waste time explaining that to you. A man doesn't go from, "You need to shut the f*** up", to "I'm not used to dealing with snowflakes as special as you" in one night. Exactly this. /u/Aggie219 , your boyfriend has actually told you the type of girl he chooses to enter relationships with ("he isn't used to being with someone who can make their own decis…
/r/RedPillWomen01/07/15 10:03 PM
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You're right, lots of interesting thoughts going on here! Some rambling thoughts - “Sex was not a problem for him,” she goes on. “It was a problem for me. When someone seems like a child, it’s not that attractive. In the end, it felt like I had three children.” (…) “The minute it becomes parental, it becomes asexual,” (…) One of the reasons why I get weirded out when people take things like ‘women can’t love men like they love their children’ literally and are upset about it….no one should love …
/r/RedPillWomen30/06/15 08:20 PM
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I'm not really close to her, we have serious fights sometimes (…) it seems it will be awkward for me to personally explain all of this to her, and I also have no idea where to start. If you haven’t been doing so already, my proposal is that you first make an effort to better your relationship with her. When the inevitable ‘boy problems’ crop up, she’s going to want to vent/talk it out with someone. If your relationship is a good one, she may come to you for a man’s viewpoint and because you’re h…
/r/RedPillWomen29/06/15 11:28 AM
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Are you still there? Go to the hotel's main desk and see if you can swing another room - may have to pay out of pocket, but at least you'll have better peace of mind for the rest of the conference (better sleep and no surprise late night visitors)!
/r/RedPillWomen29/06/15 09:04 AM
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This thread for example and this post in particular got a lot of attention in tbp.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/15 02:37 AM
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"Oh no, that man changed himself. I couldn't be prouder." If he doesn't mind you bringing up his past struggles, you could add to it, give examples of what he did, how he did it. If they continue to push or tell you to "stop being shy" about your part in his accomplishments, why not redirect them to him and he can tell them first hand about his experiences.
/r/RedPillWomen26/06/15 12:09 AM
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Noted. Thanks, w.
/r/RedPillWomen26/06/15 12:08 AM
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Maybe I'm just a weirdo, but I don't really hate anyone. It's the way I've always been, but after reflecting on it, I think hate is a really unhealthy mindset to hold. Neither do I and I agree. Generally, I tend to be more of a moderate/light red/ “damn, can’t we all just kumbaya around the campfire just once, people?” variety. Poking around all these subs -red/purple/blue/whatever -has been…an experience. I see a lot of it on RPW and I find it pretty upsetting (…) But I see a lot of vitriol tow…
/r/RedPillWomen23/06/15 10:23 PM
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In case anyone is interested, the article link the bot was trying to make is here.
/r/RedPillWomen23/06/15 08:57 PM
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He obviously cares about her and her overall wellbeing; he had spent over ten years listening to her life stories, working with her and seeing her improve and grow. I’d like to think after a decade together of steadfast biweekly appointments - and then some when she moved back and opted to start visiting his office again - he knew Greta (her temperament, personality what she wanted in life) and he wasn’t making commentary to hurt her feelings or just for the hell of it. He saw she was struggling…
/r/RedPillWomen23/06/15 08:55 PM
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Kaboom is an amazing product for tough spots, but due to the smell, I always make sure to open windows/ventilate the area well and oftentimes will step out after use. I don't use it often - more of a fan of natural cleansers like this - but on days when I want to do deep cleans, it is a very solid product and I'm always pleased with the end result.
/r/RedPillWomen22/06/15 11:43 AM
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Thank you!
/r/RedPillWomen20/06/15 04:41 PM
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Whaaaa.....thank you (and a big 'thank you' to the other mods as well)! Lettin' me look all spiffy in this sub! :D
/r/RedPillWomen20/06/15 04:25 PM
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You call her SO petty and then you say that he wants to control her, even though he has left it completely up to her to decide if she wants to go or not and told her to stop making her choices based off of him. Look, I think I get where you're coming from - I also gave side eye the first few times I read through this post - but keep in mind we're only getting a part of the story, based off what OP has decided to share here and we don't even have that much to understand what led up to their curre…
/r/RedPillWomen19/06/15 01:25 PM
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sometimes he'll see I'm venting to my best friend over text and ask about it, or despite my best efforts, he knows something is bothering me when I visit home. The way I see it, SO outranks best friend. Especially if SO is actually asking/telling you to lean on him more with things that he knows are troubling you. I always give him a more sterilized, factual rundown of the situation if he insists, but I never turn into one of those venting, blubbering girls. What about the middle ground? I under…
/r/RedPillWomen14/06/15 11:06 AM
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edit: just pick a number from below for a TL;DR (in my head, the length of this post was, like, two paragraphs, but I just finished going through SW again and have some thoughts rattling about, lmao). Reasons I like the books – they remind me to: 1-be conscious about both my reactions and interactions with others, how I come across to them and how I want to come across to them. be more aware of and respectful of where I/others draw personal boundary lines. 2- not so hot headed over matters that,…
/r/RedPillWomen13/06/15 06:00 PM
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I understand. :p My reaction when I first decided to read SW & SS was pretty much "sigh, let me see why everyone keeps talking about these books" vs my reaction when I was, ohhh, say a chapter in and was like "....ah. Ok." Do I agree/abide by every single point in the books? No. But I really enjoyed reading them and they definitely helped me zero in on/get a better idea of some things.
/r/RedPillWomen12/06/15 03:21 PM
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Not posts, but actual books that are often rec'd in the sub. There are some discussion threads that'll pop up if you do a search - members had done a read a long for The Surrendered Wife and the author just did an AMA not too long ago.
/r/RedPillWomen12/06/15 02:46 PM
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I really enjoyed reading this; good job. :)
/r/RedPillWomen12/06/15 02:40 PM
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I like GF, wish it were more active because I like the topics, but subs with traditionally feminine focus, outside makeup and clothes, seem to peter out quickly (though, GF, while there aren't frequent updates, members do read and if you post a thread, you'll still get responses). I've posted on Get Feminine with this same account which I use everywhere else on this site; haven't had any real issues (and hope to keep it that way!). :p
/r/RedPillWomen12/06/15 02:40 PM
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I stumbled across a post from another mod in one of the subs she'd modded in and he said she had deleted her account or week or so before...
/r/RedPillWomen12/06/15 02:39 PM
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The sub wasn't removed by admin, just made private by the mod team. FL plans to reopen once things have settled down.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/15 06:01 AM
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What Women Never Hear - a blog on male/female relationship dynamics
/r/RedPillWomen09/06/15 09:17 PM
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Will second this, if you're willing to share a visual Camille - your method for organizing meals sound amazing!
/r/RedPillWomen09/06/15 08:35 PM
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I love to bitch about work, and life (though thankfully never about my SO, or our friends) and just in general have a negative sense of humor. Bitching doesn't take place in a vacuum. For me, I stopped (or at least reduced the amount of time spent) hanging around people who were negative, fed my negativity, or would feed into it. When asked why I was being less fun, I'd shrug and say something akin to "it's just not funny to me anymore." Sometimes I'd give reasons why, sometimes I didn't. Either…
/r/RedPillWomen09/06/15 08:26 PM
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I think she means (correct me if I'm wrong, PremiumGoose) your SO may be waiting to see if you become entitled - I imagine not many people would be okay with or feel motivated to hasten things along if they find themselves on the receiving end of a engagement/marriage related 'Veruca Salt' rendition.
/r/RedPillWomen08/06/15 03:18 PM
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I'm thinking, perhaps, as a teaser. Kind of...you see what the process entails from start to finish. If you like it, great, you can follow up and make your own. And if you didn't like it, well, it's not like you spent a lot of time in the kitchen or invested money into items you aren't going to utilize for a meal you know you don't find particularly appealing.
/r/RedPillWomen03/06/15 09:26 PM
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Well, I'm glad you were able to get the word out. :D I'm also glad you've taken (are taking) the time to answer all these questions! Good luck with your new programs and upcoming retreat!
/r/RedPillWomen03/06/15 09:19 PM
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It's all about the fun over here, and that starts with me. It's a lot of pressure, but somebody has to start the pillow fight! Ah, but I love this, haha. :)
/r/RedPillWomen03/06/15 06:56 PM
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-What made you decide to write for a more secular audience? (Not that I'm complaining! ;) I find it very difficult to find the sort of things talked about in the book and this sub seriously discussed or written about, outside of heavily based faith circles, so I found myself pleasantly surprised at how minimal the faith element was when I started going through the books). -Do you make the final decision on the titles or is that the publisher’s decision? Were there any worries about how the title…
/r/RedPillWomen03/06/15 06:54 PM
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OP, do you mean what do people think about those two lines or are you looking for dialog on a specific word (yield, authority?)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/15 09:58 PM
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I'm not religious either, but in a broad sense, I do agree with the text above for a long term/married relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/15 09:56 PM
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edit: nvm, account deleted!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/15 10:45 AM
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Interested! I've been pleasantly surprised by the series so far and plan on reading the new book some time soon!
/r/RedPillWomen02/06/15 10:37 AM
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I wish people would make more of an initial effort, especially when they find themselves in this sort of situation, to differentiate between who they call friend and those they consider to be acquaintances. The latter definitely isn't always the former and, to a certain point, shouldn't always be treated as such.
/r/RedPillWomen02/06/15 10:31 AM
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On some level, I believe OP suspects things weren't entirely on the up and up...but it's easier to let the conscious think otherwise or lay blame on Jess for “premeditating” rather than her boyfriend who, apparently, is just being “naïve” and had not the smallest clue how Jess' stay would come across when he left his own girlfriend completely in the dark about this visit, til after the fact.
/r/RedPillWomen02/06/15 10:26 AM
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How's med school treating ya?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/15 03:59 PM
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What's your favorite part of putting on a show?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/15 03:59 PM
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Cheating wasn't the main concern here. It is a concern though. There are a lot of worrying flags in your post that should (and obviously did) give readers pause. If you believe only trust is warranted here and there is no reason to even give the smallest consideration that something may have happened, especially taking into account their history, Jess' personality, and your own uneasiness with the whole thing, then fine, that's that - it's your relationship, after all, and you will make the fina…
/r/RedPillWomen30/05/15 02:19 PM
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Everyday its a guessing game of what fluid I'm going to be leaking and from where. lmao, well big life event ought to have some sort of entertaining lead up. Guessing the type of fluid leakage is yours! :) Good luck with everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 04:30 PM
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Ok, I see!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 04:29 PM
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Baby will be here soon! How ya feeling?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 04:07 PM
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From the posts I've seen of yours, I was under the impression you were more of a blue...what is pink pill? That sounds like a lighter version of red?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 04:06 PM
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I think celebs who have more traditional relationship values tend to be more quiet about their personal lives and definitely pick and choose, understandably so, what aspects of their relationship they share with the world at large. It's really interesting to see how "known" people juggle their private selves with their public personas.
/r/RedPillWomen28/05/15 07:22 AM
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I don't want to be mean but (...) Being direct doesn't mean you're being mean (though the person you're talking to may think, and tell you, otherwise). How you deliver it, though, is what can make a difference - peppering personal insults and a contemptuous attitude right off the bat is probably going to garner a more negative reaction than if you had been tactful, yet straightforward, providing examples of problematic behavior that you want to deal with. (...)are we supposed to direct about it …
/r/RedPillWomen27/05/15 11:19 AM
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(…) when we're apart, I rarely get messages from him. I know he is busy with work, but usually at about 3/4 of the day I start to panic. You only have to sit tight for ¼ of the day more before you’re both free to see each other. What’s causing the panic? I don't want to message him because I'm afraid I'd be bothering him. When I finally see him, I can't help but feeling frustrated. He used to message me ALL DAY long when we first started dating (…) How old is this relationship/how long have you …
/r/RedPillWomen22/05/15 11:02 AM
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Nuh uh! Damian told Janis who told Cady who told Karen who told Gretchen who told Kevin who told Regina who told Glen C. and then he told me….that the mods here are evil alien robot masked as men pretending to be women who give blowjobs automatically to any man they see in a secret quest to become mankind’s future overlords. Who are you to tell me differently? :p
/r/RedPillWomen21/05/15 05:27 PM
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Re 1&2: you're lifting while you have a neck injury? You didn't say the severity of the injury, but either way, be careful not to exacerbate your pain! Re 6: Perhaps your friend hasn't realized how upset you are, thinking "snbdmliss loves helping out; that's just how she is." If you've already tried fixing things, but there hasn't been any attempt at improving the relationship, then yes, stepping back is a solid option. There's only so much a person should be willing to take on for another, espe…
/r/RedPillWomen21/05/15 11:21 AM
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...where's wingnut? On the off chance you are serious: either buckle down and face these problems head on yourself or seek in person, professional help; an internet forum, especially in the subs you've chosen to post in and of which have little to do with the issues at hand - can only take you so far.
/r/RedPillWomen21/05/15 11:06 AM
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For now, I would say yes. Give him some time and space, to cool off for at least a week or so, I'd say, before trying to make a little bit of small talk to see if how receptive he is (nothing about the breakup; mainly safe topics and then things about the apartment - how to handle bills, shared rooms, etc). You know him better than I, though, so you need to be the one to gauge how things are going/when would be the best time to bring this sort of conversation up.
/r/RedPillWomen16/05/15 07:18 PM
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I haven't read the Wife version, but I checked this one out at a local library and am currently about 2/3rds of the way finished - am beginning to see why the author is so well liked here. :) And I find it amusing that the low markings I've seen for it on Amazon are from people upset that the book isn't specifically for Christians. I feel like I end up reading a lot of religious works for this topic, so it really is a selling point, for me anyway, that it was written with a more secular audience…
/r/RedPillWomen16/05/15 06:42 PM
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I'm finding it really hard to figure out how to deal with this because we both don't have money and we live together. If the relationship is done, if it’s feasible in any way, I (or he, one of us) would move out – go home or stay with a friend, etc. Sharing living quarters when trying to patch up and move on with life makes things that much more difficult. If moving isn’t feasible, then stay, but be aware of your emotions and actions as they relate to him. Keep things polite and keep things plea…
/r/RedPillWomen16/05/15 06:35 PM
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Well, yeah. The sub has never made it a secret that a large part of their focus is on self accountability and being able to see and acknowledge what part a person, the poster, has played in the development of her relationship's problems. I take issue, at times, with how responses are given, but the questionnaire itself is not 'wtf' worthy to me. I feel the questions help show the OP is able to maintain some level of objectivity in her post about both her actions as well as her significant other.…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/15 01:08 AM
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Good luck with planning for your upcoming move! I love it so far (I had a whole discussion on it in another sub, if you're interested/want to see what others think about it). I've noticed the big thing I've struggled with is over "neutral"ish type items. Stuff that I have because they're okay - they don't spark joy in me, but I have them,they do the job they're supposed to do, and there's a niggling voice in the back of my mind that says "don't toss, what if you need this later?" I've noticed th…
/r/RedPillWomen13/05/15 12:27 AM
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...or it's a list of questions designed to help those reading understand the problem the OP is having and what paths OP/OP's SO have taken to solve the problem? I think it's difficult to give feedback to someone if they've only posted two paragraphs of rambling, nebulous complaints under a throwaway account. I honestly don't see a problem with this list; I really like it, actually - what about it, is throwing you off?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/15 12:12 AM
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This week: 1-decluttering via the KonMarie method (nothing but good things to say, so far!) 2-drink at least 80oz water daily 3-reexamine skincare routine 4-get back into fitness habits; I’ve been focused elsewhere (new job!) and this has probably suffered the most 5-specify and write out list of goals (personal development, relationship, aesthetics, general wellness, so on) to focus on
/r/RedPillWomen12/05/15 11:59 AM
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Well, this is timely - after dragging my feet for how long, I put in a request at a library to get these two books yesterday. Hopefully, I'll be able to read both before the author's visit!
/r/RedPillWomen12/05/15 11:40 AM
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When you want to see what sort of things a retail company is offering up, how pieces look on "real" people, etc, always make sure to scroll through their social media pages - happy customers will sometimes send in photos of them wearing a company's clothing ;) Here are a few examples and a blogger's review. It seems like you get one dress at random - I think the type of dress being a complete surprise is a major drawing point for those who sign up (well, that and the 70% off original price tag).…
/r/RedPillWomen07/05/15 06:56 PM
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And how should I act to the widow when I see her? (…) I just want to hug her and tell her I'm sorry. Hug her and tell her your sorry for her loss. If, for whatever reason, she asks why you weren’t at the funeral, say something akin to: “I wasn’t able to make it and, truly, I feel horrible about that.” No need to detail any further than that and I would think, considering what’s she’s currently going through, she won’t be pressing for a more detailed response. Regarding your husband: I’m not sure…
/r/RedPillWomen04/05/15 05:58 PM
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I read AoS, but it was awhile ago, so I can’t really give any in depth commentary on it, but I will say, as I skimmed through some of its reviews on Amazon, I think a number of people are getting stuck on how the author worded his book instead of the actual material covered in it. Overall though, I agree with Stinger86's assessment. It’s definitely a fun book to read (I really enjoyed that it focused more on historical accounts of chosen figures instead of trying to write a numbered how to list …
/r/RedPillWomen04/05/15 05:34 PM
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I don't go out and cheat on her every weekend But you do go out and cheat on her? You girlfriend is so wonderful, but you lie to her directly and/or through omission, about the status of the relationship the two of you have agreed to? What's the point of holding on to a (what I assume based off your post, monogamous) LTR? Why not just maintain as many plates as you can handle openly?
/r/askTRP04/05/15 05:20 PM
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I don't think independence is a bad thing to have, but there is something to be said (a lot, really!) about interdependence. I feel, though, there aren't nearly as many general articles, blog posts, etc devoted to the topic. I feel a person's entire existence is built primarily through interdependence - family, friends, significant others, work relationships, too; some sort of network is developed and, hopefully, maintained. At the very least, at one point or another,a person is going to have to…
/r/RedPillWomen01/05/15 09:04 PM
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For those who persist, I just get increasingly direct and/or loud. "No, I'm sorry I'm not interested." --> "I'm not interested." --> "Not interested." --> "No." From there, I ignore them or flag security. I haven't had experiences where the guy doesn't back off by that point. I do think most men will back off to try their luck elsewhere once you mention an SO or let them know their advances aren't welcome.
/r/RedPillWomen01/05/15 08:42 PM
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I would think letting a man know you're taken pretty much as soon as you get the sense he's not just making friendly conversation for the sake of making friendly conversation. LiaKathryn posted a good example of how to handle such a situation above (no one had the chance to get upset, flare up, or say "she didn't tell me she had a boyfriend; I didn't know" after spending time trying to flirt. edit: OP's tactic wasn't bad - in the sense, I think it was good she was able to prove/show her SO that …
/r/RedPillWomen01/05/15 08:22 PM
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Just make sure, whatever oil you get, the bottle's label says: virgin, cold pressed, and/or refined. If it those words are missing, don't put it on your face!
/r/RedPillWomen23/04/15 06:39 PM
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Come on, though. You quote one sentence as if that was all the commenter had posted. She also said (and I’m only shortening it because of the post's actual length): If you actually want to save your marriage, then, after that talk with him where you actually hear what he is asking you to do, you try to do it. (…) Give it an honest-to-goodness try for a month, then sit him down and re-evaluate. Are you now giving him what he wants? If no, ask him what to do differently. If yes, can you be the wif…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/15 09:16 AM
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Ask yourself - does my milkshake bring all the boys to the yard? Really think about it - is it better than hers? If you can't honestly say - "damn right, it's better than hers!" Get in contact with the mods - they could teach you....but they'd have to charge.
/r/RedPillWomen01/04/15 04:32 PM
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If he continues to contact you, under the name of 'friendship' and wanting to make chit-chat, especially now you've sent a message detailing your opinions on this, my advice would be to ignore him and see if the sites you're both on can step in, block IP addresses, etc. The fact you two never really had a relationship (a few dates over the years does not constitute a relationship, platonically or romantically, to me) and that he's actively circumnavigating the blocks that have been set up...it w…
/r/RedPillWomen30/03/15 07:23 PM
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I don't see the point of encouraging conversation with him. He's looking for a response - why are you responding? What exactly do you think sending this message is going to accomplish?
/r/RedPillWomen30/03/15 06:59 PM
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Sometimes just being around other people, not necessarily making deep friendships, is enough. Could you get a low pressure, part time job at one of the nearby restaurants or shops? Being around patrons, other employees, helping to make the business run smoothly how you can may help with the lonely feelings and get you out of the house. I second the ideas others have already shared (book clubs, nearby college activities, joining a sports league, etc) and add, if you're close to your family, you c…
/r/RedPillWomen29/03/15 12:13 AM
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"I don't need sex to be happy and I don't get why he does. (...) he's making himself unhappy by not enjoying all these things (...) which suggests a mental attitude adjustment (...) I can't believe some people can obsess about it so much." She feels that since she's checked out on the importance of sex in a relationship, her husband should, too. She's completely written off this aspect of their partnership and refuses to take it seriously when the matter is brought up. Sex is not the end all, be…
/r/RedPillWomen29/03/15 12:13 AM
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Others have mentioned eShakti and Ruche and I will second them. Lady V London has a retro, vintage look and they customize to your measurements as well, I believe. I haven't shopped from Heart of Haute, but a fashion blogger I like seems to get a lot of her dresses and tops from the store (same with Unique Vintage). Suggestions beyond the scope of vintage also welcome! Both MikaRose and Ureshii go for soft, feminine pieces (Ureshii also customizes). They're inexpensive compared to some of the ot…
/r/RedPillWomen25/03/15 03:16 PM
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However you’re learning about what’s going on with these other guys – scale back greatly or completely cut those lines of contact until you get a handle on things. Casual updates about the relationship status of men you were never even in a relationship with should not have you seriously reconsidering your marriage. Unfriend profiles, deactivate accounts, ask people point blank to change the topic if you feel conversation will veer off towards a place you rather not go. And how long have you kno…
/r/RedPillWomen24/03/15 01:12 PM
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Your skin color, nor your gender, matters when it comes to facing off with the sun since it's such a powerful force (twin study example). Sunscreen can only help, imo; if you're interested, visit /r/SkincareAddiction and do a search; there's a lot of great info to be found in that sub.
/r/RedPillWomen12/03/15 02:18 AM
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If he's serious about going to the gym, he could hire a personal trainer or go to the gym with a knowledgeable friend who already has a habit of working out consistently. Alternatively, you could go to the gym with him and do workouts there (or do your workout as you normally do, but go to the gym as support til he doesn't feel so out of sorts in the gym environment). If he's still dragging his feet, ask him what sort of activities draw his interest and suggest he see if there are any home exerc…
/r/RedPillWomen11/03/15 05:58 PM
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He did tell a mutual friend that he loves me too much to breakup. Optimism is great and all, but I would hesitate to hold onto this piece of info as if it were a relationship life preserver. A person’s opinions and actions of what they would do in a hypothetical scenario may not always come to pass when the theoretical suddenly becomes reality. This is one those situations where I’d say you can hope for the best, but be prepared and expect the worst. For me, breaking up is not an option, even if…
/r/RedPillWomen03/03/15 01:25 PM
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He volunteers of his own volition; I would just scoot over. If anything, after a few minutes, you could thank him for chipping in and then lob him an easy out, letting him know that if he wants to rest or do something else, he can do so without losing face/you becoming upset. If he insists on completing the task, then let him - just enjoy the extra time together.
/r/RedPillWomen17/02/15 12:28 AM
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Not the person you're responding to - but, I'm going to second your Kushiel's Dart recommendation. It's been awhile since I've read it, but I consider it to be more heavily weighted in the fantasy genre over erotica. It's a gorgeous book though, very well written and plotted. I wish I could write half as well as the author!
/r/RedPillWomen15/02/15 03:06 PM
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However, I am not too happy with this book's popularity. I haven’t read the book and I don’t plan on watching the movies as they roll out, but I did want to point out erotic fiction has been around for ages. Others have pointed out some titles, and I think if you ever decide to check out those titles, you’ll find 50SoG to be extremely tame in comparison (and I think it’ll make more sense why it’s accepted by mainstream audiences). I never want to do BDSM and I don't want to be expected to do thi…
/r/RedPillWomen15/02/15 03:06 PM
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It feels good knowing I have a great man by my side. ^ Put such a smile on my face. Congrats!
/r/RedPillWomen05/02/15 03:23 PM
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Not OP, but wanted to pipe up and say thanks for writing this; I'm debating a similar situation and your posting is helping me reevaluate some points I hadn't given proper consideration to beforehand.
/r/RedPillWomen30/01/15 05:16 PM
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Disclaimer: I self ID as purple with these subs, so if you’re taking to heart the advice from those who identify with red more strongly, go with their advice and you can, of course, take what I say below with a pinch (or three) of salt. Make this a good faith effort. A few suggestions: If you’re up for it, post/interact with others in their sub or talk to people via PM. I think if you’re making an honest go of understanding things, people may be more willing to responding. At the very least, go …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/15 08:47 PM
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I don't really socialize much and whenever I do I talk A LOT. I have a lot of strong opinions and ideas about life and the world and I also see a lot of dark things at work. It’s ok to have strong opinions and ideas about the world around you – I think it would be odd if people didn’t, to be honest – but you don’t want to have a monologue where the only voice being heard is yours. Practice balancing your pushes and pulls. If you’re struggling with fostering dialogue, keep it simple and start sma…
/r/RedPillWomen19/01/15 01:52 PM
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Just gonna delurk long enough to say thanks for linking the above; the responses in those threads were really interesting to read.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/15 03:24 PM
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It seems like the money is used strictly for keeping the family buoyant and living within desired parameters. Since one spouse - Wife, in this case - is bringing home the bacon, it makes sense that the other spouse - Husband, in this case - focuses on making sure things are moving along well from the other side: the upkeep of the home and doing (majority of the day to day) hands on parenting. Long as everything’s stabilized and everyone is emotionally and physically well between the couple, the …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/15 07:17 PM
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Question for all Pills: as a man or woman, would you be more willing to stick around after one type of infidelity than another? Or are both types of infidlities a deal-breaker for the relationship? They’re both dealbreakers. Before, I would say it’s an automatic termination of the relationship and we'd go our separate ways. I’ve modified my stance a tiny bit. We may stay together, but only if we agreed to start from bunker level and build a new relationship up from there with specified reassessm…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/15 06:59 PM
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(which I can go into if anyone's interested). I'm interested in hearing more, if you're still up for sharing.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/15 12:07 AM
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i will stop by later , we ought to continue our last conversation anyway!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/15 10:16 PM
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Ha, let me actually start posting more here first before wandering into chat with all my questions. :p
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/15 09:41 PM
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Haha, I wasn't even thinking poly - I was just listing people whose posts I enjoy reading. Still though, I think it is a good group, let's make it happen!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/15 09:34 PM
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I more of a lurker, but I'm gonna pipe up here with: F: Aerobus / exit_sandman / justbrowsingstuff /fizolof / In_Cahoots M: Buartha / BakerofPie / nomdplume / mistressnatalie1/ weirdlemonade81 K: eh, wouldn’t off anyone; the sub just wouldn’t be the same if some of you mysteriously disappeared….
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 06:27 PM
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I wasn’t offended by her comments. I think it’s irritating that people are so “disappointed” in her or feel she doesn’t “understand what feminism is.” I find such people to be extremely condescending and presumptuous. How do you feel about her apology? Felt bad for her because she ended up apologizing for sharing her opinions (and her comments, they weren’t fightin’ words). -She knew it was “a trap” and still she tried to answer honestly instead of side stepping the question or giving a canned "…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/15 05:32 AM
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I don't have any advice to share, but I do want to say that I'm really impressed with your post here and how you're handling your situation, trying to roll with the punches as they come. Good luck with everything. :)
/r/RedPillWomen01/01/15 06:54 PM
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I would have resented the fuck out of him and we would have broken up shortly after that. In which case he "failed" because he didn't match up to your standards, the qualities you want in your significant other. I think it's subjective - what one person may consider a hard fail, another person may consider a extreme win. Shit testing, fitness testing, whatever people want to call it....at its most basic level, it's just a way of seeing how well you relate (in a platonic, romantic, and/or sexual …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 04:16 PM
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^ This. I don't view it as strictly pass/fail. It's just a way of (un)consciously testing boundaries, seeing how someone reacts to a comment or request...basically getting a better idea of a person's personality or character through a given interaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 03:11 AM
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I really don't care about how big or how small a guy's partner count is. Other things take precedence in determining if we're even getting to the stage of sleeping together (I care about how well we match up, being/remaining disease free, knowing that he's on good-neutral terms with his past partners and was respectful in regards to the type of relationships he had with them, etc).
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 02:33 AM
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TLDR: Nope. I like being able to make my own decisions and live by my own moral code. * I have questions about this society (not that you have to answer them or anything, but these were the things that initially came to mind and rattled around my head while reading your post). Monogamy is the standard, and anything outside of monogamy is considered extremely taboo. (…)in this world it's weird for anyone to not be married past 30. Generally you only have 1-5 sexual partners your whole life, and a…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/14 10:43 PM
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I agree that it was an advertising strategy - no business worth its salt is going to go with the "throw it at the wall, see what sticks" method in hopes of maybe reaching a profitable bottom line. . Still though, that was the type of ad that let them tap into the specific demographic who would view the ad as a form of social change...which, in a way, it is since it's an alternative to the mainstream standard. If Dove had used the models in the photo /u/GuildedCasket linked too, even with the sam…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/14 07:21 PM
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Anything can sell, an ad just needs to reach the right audience and/or give the right spin. The whole Dove Campaign for Real Beauty featured people who'd be atypical of a Victoria Secret fashion show. They weren't going for overtly sexy with smouldering eyes, arched backs, and pouty lips in their commercials - they were aiming to match their ads to the tagline of being comfortable in "the skin you're in."
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/14 06:34 PM
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You're not going to meet girls in front of a computer (…) or going to comic con. You may hit it off with a woman you randomly sat down next to at a men’s lacrosse game; you may join a small knitting club and find none of the ladies there to be a good match. Meeting people isn’t always the problem – but finding a person you actually click with who’s in the right time/place/frame of mind for something more to happen usually is. So should betas suck it up and play pretend, or worse, lie, about enga…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/14 08:07 PM
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Every time I take these tests, I fall into INFJ or INTJ. Don't really like the idea of "either-or" and I see pros/cons for both sides, so I'll identify here as purple.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/14 10:26 PM
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I'd be comfortable with eight years older or four years younger, but nothing is ever set in stone. edit: just reread the title...not fully RPW, I guess, but my answer still stands!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/14 11:47 PM
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Makes sense; thank you!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/14 11:46 PM
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What is MMV short for?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/14 04:23 PM
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Exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/14 03:39 PM
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I identify quite a bit with the majority of what I've seen you post in this sub. and I gotta say, I like you, /u/weirdlemonade81 That's all. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/14 10:49 PM
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I'm aware of /r/deadbedrooms ...have no desire to find myself being an active participant there, ever. And that's why I think context and each person's accountability is important to take into consideration.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/14 08:27 PM
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I value my partner's sexual satisfaction. I would hope anyone in a strong relationship would. Considering context is important though (the mood each person is in, the frequency of how often sex is denied, etc). I think "no, not now" type responses if they're rare shouldn't warrant a breakdown of a solid relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/14 07:37 PM
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I would love to see a breakdown of active, occasional active status/lurker, and throwaway/non-active profiles in a number of subreddits I'm in. Not sure if there's an easy way (for the mods) to do this, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/14 02:29 PM
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There's still knowledge to be gained and/or points of view to be acknowledged/put forth even if someone from the "opposing side" doesn't agree with them. Besides, I don't really post when I swing by this forum, but I do like to read cogent arguments from those who participate here. I imagine in a sub of over 3000, I'm not the only one in "lurk and read" mode.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/14 02:06 AM
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Could you detail the reasoning behind your order above? I'm genuinely curious as I thought for RPM, from what I've seen on Reddit at least, sex would be listed first, then respect, then intimacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/14 04:53 PM
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I recently started browsing athol Kay's MMSL blog and forum. It has a more neutral tone, comes across as less inflammatory advising due to the purpose of the site, jargon used, etc. The members seem to be more focused on improving themselves/rebuilding their long term relationships via the Map program; multiple plate spinning isn't the end goal there and the harshness in dialog as it is associated to the red pill here isn't so much of an issue there. I think Kay is trying to distance himself fro…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/14 12:01 AM
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My rule of thumb is to meet in public areas during the day/early evening. I arrive by myself, I leave by myself - I don't actually know these guys and I've marathoned way too many Lifetime channel movies/Law & Order episodes to be ok with having my coffee dates pick me up or drop me off anywhere. :p I do tell people I trust about my whereabouts, just in case. Re: how soon...as long as their profiles and our interactions, thus far, are red flag free, I like to meet as soon as possible - lets us b…
/r/RedPillWomen22/10/14 10:24 AM
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Yes, you're looking for someone who's a good match for you; best way to do it is to go out and meet as many people as you can then whittle down/fine tune the list of potential matches. Save the longer date options for those you're ready to invest more time in.
/r/RedPillWomen22/10/14 09:12 AM
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For whatever reason I clicked on your username, went through your history and found myself upvoting a number of your postings, even on ones that I disagree (a little or a lot on). This one, however, is probably my most favorite out of the ones I read - you pretty much state everything I've been thinking of late, and in a more elegant way than I could think to do at the moment. Thanks for sharing. I enjoy reading your commentary.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/14 07:43 PM
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I found this really interesting to read; thanks for sharing.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/14 11:34 PM
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Do you have any ideas of where one should look for this book? I'd love to get a chance to read a copy!
/r/RedPillWomen12/10/14 09:41 PM
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Do you have this book by chance or an idea of where one should look for it?
/r/RedPillWomen12/10/14 09:38 PM
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Aw, good! I enjoy reading your posts here - congrats, Phantom!
/r/RedPillWomen17/01/14 12:52 PM
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Some of the threads and comments in TRP give me pause, is all. I do recognize, however, that the TRP and RPW differ in end goals and their approach to reaching them.
/r/RedPillWomen10/01/14 07:45 AM
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We have a similar sense of ethics/honor, too. He doesn't play games, or manipulate, and neither do I-- we both hold sort of a "walk away" rather than "condition the person out of the behavior!" sort of take on that shit. I feel like every time I peek in TRP, the answer to any potential relationship woe is to next/spin a new plate to (re)create new attraction. I feel like that just adds additional, unnecessary - to me, anyway - stress. I'm glad to hear you and your bf would rather deal with issue…
/r/RedPillWomen09/01/14 12:52 AM
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This is a good post - something I've been mulling over more and more myself; thanks.
/r/RedPillWomen10/12/13 06:17 PM
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Hello, another lurker here; I spend quite a bit of time reading through the archives. I'm not sure if I want to take on the whole ideaology, but I am open to hearing the experiences of those who do. There are some RPW values that I do acknowledge/accept, though, so it's nice to have, at the very least, a place to post and share with others who have similar viewpoints.
/r/RedPillWomen28/11/13 06:21 PM
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This was really nice, and interesting, to read; thank you for sharing.
/r/RedPillWomen09/11/13 06:03 PM
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