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I certainly wont pretend its a perfect system, but rather just a coping mechanism to not despise people.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/05/26 11:49 AM
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Misanthropy is a response, much like cynicism, to repeated long term disappointment. The only way to manage this is to lower your expectations. Even then, you are less solving the problem than managing the symptoms in a way that allows you to be productive, but that is still an enormous upgrade versus banging your head against the wall. An unflattering comparison, but essentially apt: I do not begrudge my dog for eating a steak I left on the ground. I do not love him less for this quality of his…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/05/26 02:58 PM
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Although you don't appear to have heard of Karen Straughan, Paul Elam, Janice Fiamengo, Warren Farrell or others in the MHRM, as you would have heard the term from them. I do know of them; lets see some sourcing on them using that acronym. Again, a casual google shows nothing. Lets see you show them using it with great force that was adopted by anything approaching wide use. And to be extremely clear: even WITH that use, it is still stupid in 99% of cases to attempt the same. Are you trying to b…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/03/26 07:26 PM
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where the term "Men's Human Rights Movement" and the acronym are a commonplace. If a (frankly, meaningless) acronym doesn't have the legs to crossover to google, and especially to adjacent communities, you shouldn't be using it outside of it with the expectation anyone knows what you are talking about. As far as my antecedents, I have been involved in the movement in one way or another since Iron John, I don't need to pass your ridiculous litmus of who subscribes most strongly to particular jarg…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/03/26 11:22 AM
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You are welcome to feel that way. I may value clarity more than you do.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/03/26 06:04 AM
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and you're thrown by the term Men's Human Rights Movement. No, I'm thrown by a made up acronym, or TBAMUA. A casual search of both the MUA and the "Men's Human Rights Movement" in this sub returns no uses, or RNU. I would point out that even in my facetious use of this stupidity, I am actually defining them first, as is appropriate, and achieving more clarity than your own post. I would be interested in seeing you provide examples of the historical use here (or anywhere, really), which you seem …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/03/26 12:10 AM
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MHRM Sigh. I don't understand the rising, apparently ravenous, desire to use esoteric acronyms casually like everyone is supposed to know what you are talking about. Is this like a TikTok thing? Most stupid things I see often are. Whatever that is supposed to mean, I promise the second or so you saved not typing it will be eclipsed hundreds of times over by people having to puzzle out what the fuck it means.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/03/26 04:54 PM
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The woman who commented on a TikTok video that men suck isn’t my enemy. She’s very likely on my team, even if she doesn’t recognize it. She’s also being oppressed by the fascists and billionaires, but has to deal with an additional layer of bullshit because she’s a woman. I will begin by saying I think there is some value in this approach, even if I myself don't share it. It is always difficult to know exactly what sort of messaging will cut through the fog for any particular person, so having a…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/01/26 04:27 PM
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Combining Motte and Bailey, and the Women are Wonderful Effect explains a shocking amount of the world.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/01/26 05:51 PM
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In the basic zip code of your post is this short essay So the motte-and-bailey doctrine is when you make a bold, controversial statement. Then when somebody challenges you, you retreat to an obvious, uncontroversial statement, and say that was what you meant all along, so you’re clearly right and they’re silly for challenging you. Then when the argument is over you go back to making the bold, controversial statement. The central loop here being that "feminism is just equality" as the motte, and …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/01/26 05:30 PM
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Well, that and the audacity to resent the natural fallout of the movement (being excluded from gatherings and the whole Mike Pence rule) Cynical take incoming: I think the reason these things created such sour grapes is that they were attacking the actual, rather than stated, goal of the whole thing: power. The whole idea is just to further weaponize the relationships between powerful men and climbing women that both parties are (generally) actively interested in. Under this auspice, nothing unt…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/12/25 06:31 PM
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It is doubly tortured because women actively seek out these dynamics both from an attraction standpoint and as a professional climbing mechanism.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/12/25 06:03 PM
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The problem with using phrasing like "bad faith" is that it presumes intent to deceive, when it could just as easily be that the people you are talking to are not smart enough to understand there is a contradiction. Similarly with "gaslight": if your opponent has a tenuous enough grasp on reality, technically any contradiction can be gaslighting. A lot of pop culture borrowing of language divorces things from the context where they make sense. In this particular context: one where the interlocut…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/12/25 05:40 AM
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I am really just making the point that it isn't some whole cloth concept invented out of thin air; there are parallels in other animal species. It doesn't "prove" anything in particular for humans, merely that (as animals) the dynamic is known to exist. But frankly, if you are looking for studies on hierarchies in humans, those exist too. The conversation is really only around degree and form, not whether these things are true or false.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/12/25 07:11 PM
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I never met anybody IRL who ever bought into this 'alpha male influencer" garbage. And I work with younger guys a lot. I will say my experience is pretty similar, but I think there is a mitigating point here: this doesn't mean that people aren't influenced some by these sorts of ideas, even if they don't attribute it directly in a straight line. But largely, yes I agree that it is overblown. I mean how many "hate crimes" have ended up being hoaxes or otherwise insincere? When you build a model t…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/12/25 05:56 PM
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Dominance hierarchies are pretty well studied in lots of animal species. If you were trying to get nearest to humans, primates in particular have plenty of examples.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/12/25 05:42 PM
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I will admit to never having heard this term before, and further admit to not having much more interest learning about it past this post, but the devil's advocate adjustment that I think lets everything "flow" is that the fatigue being referenced here is more about having to treat a particular group with special rules and kid gloves, while these incidents happen. That is, the perpetration may be less the fatigue source except as it relates to the diminished ability to react to it, and the genera…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/09/25 11:02 PM
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You are right, but I would add that many people across the political spectrum dont actually reason themselves into the positions they hold; its just emotional/associative/tribal reactions. This has the effect of making them nigh immovable with reason, (since thats not how they arrived to begin with) but more importantly to your point, deeply weakened in being able to be persuasive or convincing to people who dont already agree with them. Putting them on the spot exposes these things, and it is e…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/06/25 02:41 PM
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The the bits I bothered to read at the beginning feel like AI slop just slathered in buzzwords. Maybe it gets better somewhere in there but it seems very self indulgent either way.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/04/25 03:19 AM
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The blanket disavowel is a common refrain on a lot of people/subjects, but I have to say I see it even more than usual against Peterson. I don't have any particular love for the guy really; I think most of his good advice is stuff your grandpa would consider common sense. But I used to engage on the point because at least up till then I'd never actually found the grounding for all the vitriol he faced, and it piqued my curiosity. And I never really found it. You would get very strong but vague c…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/04/25 04:06 PM
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Its odd because theres an amount of respect with trying to be proactive but the actual candelabra of what is being reacted against is a travesty.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/07/24 02:16 AM
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I disagree. I think that essentially every use case is still lying, or maybe in the more political avenues, propaganda. I don't think this is a case of no worse existing, just of no word meeting the specs for being punchy enough. The reason I say this is that almost invariably, there is resistance to correct the usage, they just want to be using the same slang they see on tiktok. As far as "shift," I guess. The way 90% of people use it, it is indistinguishable from lying. Asking them to name the…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/07/24 01:41 AM
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I remember an article about how women are gaslit by society when they're called "crazy." There is a ornery part of me that remembers an argument something along the lines of "if everyone keeps calling you a racist, maybe you are being a racist." The hyperbolizing and outright manufacture in some cases, such as this one, of meanings has become a significant problem. The other day there was a poster who was very concerned about being considered an incel and seemed to have no idea that it had any r…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/07/24 09:04 PM
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No. Neither of those things is gaslighting. In fact, you have probably never seen this word used properly; actual gaslighting is actually pretty rare. Everyone learned this word a few years back from social media. The word you and nearly every user of the term is looking for is "lying."
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/07/24 02:56 PM
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These kinds of posts mean well, but essentially this problem has been "solved" already: its just self sufficiency and developing personal strength. Unfortunately, these things have some political coding that people shy away from (nonsensically, I'd add) and that leads to continually trying to reinvent the wheel. Your time and effort is of course yours to spend as you see fit, but I'd pose this question: is it more important that the problem be solved, or that the problem be solved your way?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/06/24 03:48 PM
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Yet you are online enough to have internalized the wrong definition of incel? The answer to your titled question is "have sex."
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/06/24 09:15 PM
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Does this align with anyone's experience here, or with people from outside the US? Speaking from context of a coding bootcamp: -3 women in class. All 3 had offers before the class was over. 1 didn't bother to finish the bootcamp and just move into her new role. We had at least one recruiter come speak to the class who was only accepting female applicants (her words) -post a year or so, only a couple grads had industry jobs, out of the 30 or so. One of them was simply a new instructor at the same…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/11/22 08:40 AM
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Outgrouping and negative associations are about 90% of all political dialogue anymore. They only know the one single trick. I'm reminded of Bernie Sanders, after being accused of being a socialist, just said (paraphrasing) "okay, so I'm a socialist, now can we talk about healthcare?" A huge amount of people truly do not understand how these conversations work.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/03/22 06:43 PM
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What is it you mean by "medical gaslighting?" By almost any legitimate application of what the word actually means? No. I do not think the medical community is willfully lying to women (or men) in order to destabilize their grip on reality. Are medical professionals making mistakes as a result of various biases they may have? Possibly. But that's not even close to what gaslighting is.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/03/22 06:42 PM
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Those conservatives are also authoritarians. Its turtles all the way down.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/03/22 10:17 PM
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These people are conservatives in disguise Authoritarians would be nearer the mark. "No bad tactics, only bad targets." An example as good as any about how people drape themselves in rhetoric like a wolf would wear a sheep's coat.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/03/22 09:14 PM
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And therein lies the problem, Men antagonise each others far more than they support each others. I agree. But there absolutely is a difference between men competing and men being hostile; the friend/rivalry overlap is a common trope for this reason. And it certainly doesn't intrinsically preclude men being supportive of each other. This whole "stop caring" is a cop out, people never say that "not caring" about racism is a solution to racism. It's more like a way to cope with the issue, it doesn'…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/02/22 05:46 PM
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that still tries hard gaslighting single people What is it you think gaslighting means? To answer your broader question: I would hesitate to call it "natural," but men being judged by their success with women has two somewhat understandable causes. The first being that men tend to be competitive with each other in general, and most so in that slice of time when our biology screams loudest in our ear to have sex. Some of this just inescapably bleeds over into the rest of our lives. The second is …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/02/22 10:57 PM
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For me I'm thinking it's either banning routine infant circumcision (or more broadly minor circumcision - many Muslim and African countries practice circumcision later in life) or the US "justice" system unfairly has too many black men incarcerated I think the problem for the former is that it doesn't do much to raise the water level outside its context, and the latter is will always just be hand waved away as racism (generally attributed to white men). I am interested in this because these posi…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/02/22 05:22 PM
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Around 99% of women disagreed and thought they were doing most of the extra work This study has similar conclusions Consistent with conventional norms, most men (84 percent) and women (58 percent) reported that men pay for most expenses, even after dating for a while. Over half (57 percent) of women claim they offer to help pay, but many women (39 percent) confessed they hope men would reject their offers to pay, and 44 percent of women were bothered when men expected women to help pay. Nearly t…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/02/22 10:38 PM
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some of them were left by their wives, because their (the wives) own words, they were 'no longer men'. I'd be interested in reading about this, have a link? Google just tosses out what you'd expect.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/02/22 10:19 PM
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God knows it doesn't matter what men think. It does matter, men have the ability to affect these things too. Its just that we have a very hard time achieving the quasi-solidarity necessary for it. There are too many men that are too desperate and willing to cross that picket line.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/12/21 05:13 PM
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If you are open to hearing some advice from someone who is considered pretty successful at navigating this stuff, I'd say you should give it a little gas. There is a sort of momentum to these things; wait for a high point in the conversation and then suggest meeting somewhere, or at least exchanging real numbers. You don't have to move at breakneck speeds but the longer you draw the process out, the less it seems fun and exciting and the more it seems like an obligation on her to-do list. Much o…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/12/21 12:37 PM
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Thing is, this isn't "contemporary" in the sense of champing vs chomping at the bit. This wasn't something that happened 100, 50, or even 10 years ago. Its more like 5. Five years ago, the vast majority of you didn't even know this word existed. Now you think to sneer at people who did. Further, it isn't trivia or pedantry; it is a useful term for a specific type of psychological abuse that is now more or less destroyed, and its use cases in the "contemporaneous" do not effectively describe anyt…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/10/21 05:36 PM
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Hypothetically, I suppose if your sense of reality is fragile enough, all disagreement can be gaslighting. But I dare say that's not what you mean. There's no requirement that it be "prolonged" in order to fit the definition of gaslighting There is, actually. In the same way that "torture" has an implied time component. I'd note that if you care to look at the edit history on the wikipedia entries, you'll find that this nouveau approach to the word has been edited in in the last few years from t…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/10/21 05:53 PM
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Thank you. Most of the time I don't even bother trying to correct it anymore. For whatever reason, people absolutely fucking insist on using the term wrong, and are very unhappy with you for noticing. As per /u/austin101123's comment being heavily downvoted, while being 100% correct. I don't understand it. At first I thought it was people who just wanted to punch up their language but didn't want to buy a thesaurus. Now I think its that people just really really want to get to use the du jour te…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/10/21 03:33 PM
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A good piece of advice in general, but in this context in particular, is to realize that most people are not very smart and probably not worth taking seriously. I mean never be above rechecking your own internal math, but also don't doubt yourself just because someone says you should. While not caring at all is a bit overboard, the vast majority of men care too much.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/09/21 02:24 AM
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Whenever this subject comes up, I'm reminded of this skit.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/09/21 02:16 AM
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“This is a hair’s breadth away from saying anyone who isn’t a white man is only there because they’re ‘diversity hires’.” chad.jpg "Yes." Really though, I'm not sure how anyone who supports diversity hiring can be blind to these downstream consequences. And to chastise someone for plucking this ever so low hanging fruit is very Emperor Has No Clothes. If you worked somewhere and the boss's son just so happened to get a job above his experience/education level, you wouldn't waste one moment being…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/08/21 05:57 PM
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One argument that is often employed to downplay or outright dismiss male victims is the assertion that 'most of it is male-on-male' Presumably these same people would be aghast to hear black-on-black crime referenced.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/07/21 10:52 PM
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I think generally culture war stuff is a bad use of energy, but there are a lot of things in that vein that used to be dismissed that are now a total thing.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/06/21 02:32 PM
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As for assuming bad faith, I guess it is usually just meant as assuming someone to be ill-intentioned. Well, aside from not being what the phrase is supposed to describe, ill intent is not a disqualifier anyway. Unfortunately, people you hate can still sometimes be right. Otherwise, you find yourself in a circular trap where people you don't like are arguing in "bad faith" and can never be right about anything, because we are abandoning the substance of an argument for the motive. Which I suppos…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/06/21 07:01 PM
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The political version of this I heard awhile back was "A Bernie Bro was mean to me on the internet so now I don't think poor people deserve healthcare"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/06/21 06:53 PM
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Incidentally I was downvoted for saying very similar in this sub just a few days ago
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/06/21 06:29 PM
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He assumed I was "bad faith" repeatedly Reddit has a habit of using a lot of words and ideas it doesn't really understand. For example, bad faith is deception not just someone you don't like saying something you don't want to respond to. Add on to that pile gaslighting, fascism, straw man, the list goes on.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/06/21 06:02 PM
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gaslight gaslight gaslight I don't have any particular problems with this post but gaslighting is a fairly specific thing that has exploded in the last two years or so to apparently mean whatever the user desires. The term is taken from the 40s movie of the same name, where a man is destabilizing his wife's grip on her sanity by physically changing elements in their life to do so; the example I've always used is to hide someone's keys from their usual spot, help them "look" for them once they've…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/06/21 07:51 AM
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But when you asked the moms, 97% of them claimed that they were doing most of the work. Here is a different survey with similar results about who splits what on dates and household costs. At every delineation women think they pay more than men think they pay. At the largest, where the men paying all vs the women paying none, the gap of acknowledgement is almost double. Which would be a tough one to really get wrong. https://www.nerdwallet.com/blog/finance/infographic-pays-nerdwallet-study-finds-…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/06/21 11:54 AM
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It really is pretty much Motte and Bailey every time.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/06/21 11:33 AM
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No. There are several components to actually gaslight someone and this isn't any of them. Probably 9/10 times you've ever seen the word, it was used wrong. Everyone becoming overeager to add it to their lexicon in the last year or two does a disservice to dialogue in general. We have now destroyed a word that used to mean something specific, and we have no other word to replace it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/06/21 07:33 PM
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A quote from an essay very much worth reading: Am I saying that if you met with a conservative friend for an hour in a quiet cafe to talk over your disagreements, they’d come away convinced? No. I’ve changed my mind on various things during my life, and it was never a single moment that did it. It was more of a series of different things, each taking me a fraction of the way. As the old saying goes, “First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then they fight you half-hea…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/06/21 06:57 AM
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That type of behavior is really what's toxic. It is relentless value calculus, and it poisons everything. Ultimately, I think that most of the social gestalt words like "love" and such are just cover for that calculation; lose your income and find out how fast that unique mystical connection becomes mundane and surprisingly quantifiable.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/06/21 04:29 PM
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How fucking dare you? This is running up against a similar wall of when people talk about culture. Its a given. It is the default. That it could ever be anything else does not compute. It is your responsibility as a person to prevent this, by default. I'll note that the very recent attack in NY that the two security guards were lambasted over would never have been such if they were women. It is only men that are shouldered with this responsibility.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/04/21 10:13 PM
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This was your claim. Don't act like you can't be bothered just because someone held you to task on it and you found out you couldn't back it up. You should edit your post to reflect you were wrong. He doesn't deserve to be slandered for no reason.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/04/21 06:52 PM
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Amendments are a thing. "Abolishing" the constitution is not that. Nor is trying to run the country without a document at all (?!). Its not defensible.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/04/21 06:49 PM
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There is a phrase, mostly used about the right, which is the idea that they believe they are "temporarily embarrassed millionaires," and so resist efforts to dismantle economic mechanisms that might not be serving them right now, because they think one day that will change. I think the left is essentially guilty of the same dynamic, but socially. They don't want to dismantle hierarchies, they just want to change who is at the top of them. Hence the brutal hostility to egalitarianism or race blin…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/04/21 01:58 PM
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The "James Lindsay, Critical Election Theorist, PhD" probably should have given it away, if the rest somehow didn't. Anyone who fell for this, especially on this sub, really needs to give their balony detector a recalibration.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/04/21 01:39 PM
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He did it repeatedly for weeks at a time - once or twice is a cutesy thing but he seems to legit believe it Do you have something else supporting this? If he was willing to post his own infographic once I don't think it is particularly damning he would be willing to post it again. An infographic, I might add, that doesn't even say there is fraud, but rather that the people that are saying there isn't, are deriving benefit from it, even if you somehow don't notice it is a joke. Especially paired …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/04/21 01:34 PM
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The idea of "shout something down to dismiss it" instead of arguing the pros and cons should be anathema to this sub Really of anyone that has ever actually held a contrary-to-popular opinion, but yeah seeing it on this sub in particular seems very much missing the whole point. Like, they don't see shouting things down as bad; they just see shouting the wrong things down as bad, and the right things as good. No bad methods, only bad targets. Why yes, it just so happens they are the ones who deci…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/04/21 01:23 PM
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Debatable to say the least, but far from 'going full Trump wacko' My personal heuristic for most claims like this is that, usually, a smart person suddenly becoming dumb is unlikely. If your basis of deciding on newfound stupidity is political, it becomes even less likely. Which seems to have served me well in this instance.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/04/21 09:22 AM
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This is a joke post lampooning woke "infographics." Poe's law in full effect.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/04/21 09:18 AM
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If you are referring to the facebook post linked downstream, it is obviously a tongue and cheek repackaging of woke "infographics."
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/04/21 09:17 AM
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Eh I'd probably insist on a higher standard of proof before lampooning someone. Third party "trust me bro" is usually a poor heuristic.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/04/21 08:28 AM
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Did they say why this is so?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/04/21 08:26 AM
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I am aware he planned to vote for Trump but not of anything else. What is it he is guilty of?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/04/21 08:26 AM
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So definitely some of that money and activism is going towards white victims too then right? Surely you wouldn't mind citing a few.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/04/21 03:41 AM
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Definitionally it is exactly that.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/04/21 08:45 AM
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Putting women first is just the "all lives matter" equivalent to homelessness. That's actually kinder than the reality. Having a lottery or otherwise being gender blind would be "All Lives Matter." This is closer to "Black Lives Matter, Once The White Lives Are Safe."
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/04/21 05:30 PM
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My favourite is to just bring up George Floyd. The gender gap in police homicide is 6x that of race You are thinking of sentencing, most like. After controlling for the arrest offense, criminal history, and other prior characteristics, "men receive 63% longer sentences on average than women do," and "[w]omen are…twice as likely to avoid incarceration if convicted." This gender gap is about six times as large as the racial disparity that Prof. Starr found in another recent paper. The police homic…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/04/21 01:05 AM
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For a recent example, there was that Queen's Gambit miniseries Watched it, thought it was okay. The online reactions I saw gave me real Wakanda vibes. Though I'll say they didn't seem to go out of their way to make all the men brutish and evil like they easily could have done; I basically expected it, myself. It's more difficult to make anybody give a shit about a disposable "prince in distress." The expectation would essentially be that any prince landing himself in distress should simply die a…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/03/21 10:08 AM
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Like I'm pretty sure besides coercing men into wars, they still indirectly contribute to it. Women will try quite hard, almost to an absurd degree, not to be direct agents in anything. To the extent that they will often forego things they really want if there is no indirect way to get it. This is one of the reasons that as we live in a culture where it is "cool" to demean men and talk about how useless are needless they are, women will almost never actually be without one. Perhaps not in an esta…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/03/21 12:05 AM
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Her money is her money. Your money is our money. This is true even outside of relationships. There is a saying that goes something like "if you want a wife, buy a house. A wife will soon be provided."
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/03/21 06:30 PM
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The Equalities minister's argument is a non-sequitor As I've gotten older I've come to accept that the majority of the population is some combination of stupid and/or dishonest.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/03/21 10:51 PM
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Certainly, that configuration happens. But it seems to happen rather rarely by accident. My personal experience and that of people I know is that your partner will essentially claim all of the time that you allow.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/03/21 08:08 PM
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I'm a bit older than the Reddit average, and so I will assume that I am older than the sub average. I have always been rather blessed in my friendships, both in making new ones and maintaining the ones I have. With one particular exception, I've found most men very open to the same, even if they are a little unsure of how exactly to go about doing so. The one exception however is when you throw women into the equation. Specifically, relationships. Almost as a category men defer to the women in t…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/03/21 06:58 PM
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Journalism, since its inception, has always attracted the lowest tier of shit stains and parasites of the society and "good journalists" were always in the minority. Don't entirely agree with it, or even your take, but something that made me laugh the other day was a similar thread about journalism where someone said "Journalists have their place. And that place is prison."
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/02/21 04:42 PM
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Awhile back I was having a conversation about this on the Austin subreddit (do not recommend) and one of the common whines there is white men not wearing masks properly. While it is true that white men are the least likely demographic, it isn't by as much as is being implied; 78% vs 86% with black folks, for example. Like seemingly every conversation anymore, it mostly just breaks down along tribal lines. Aggrandize the enemy's faults, minimize your own.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/02/21 04:38 PM
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I'd say there are behaviors that are particularly endemic to one gender vs another, but I'm not sure wearing masks wrong is one of them. I'd have to see some data on it; my anecdotal experience is that it is fairly even. Edit: Actually found some, looks like males' compliance is a little less than half that of women.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/02/21 04:31 PM
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you cannot simply 'repair' it by including men as a section I don't participate as much in this sub anymore because I do feel like a lot of energy is spent trying to reframe things in this way. To paraphrase a rather weak quote "it is trying to use master's tools." While there are certainly people that can be peeled from the idpol narratives using that approach, I think it to be a strong minority; the empathy gap for men and in-group bias of women towards each other is highly persistent.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/02/21 09:53 PM
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I tried setting up a mens support group in my area of the uk but not a single venue would accept us. Mileage varies of course, but I'd just not advertise it to the venue. Probably change the name to something neutral. While I understand the desire to plant a flag (and there's some blackpill value in forcing people's reaction to that flag) the most important thing is that those groups actually exist more than anything. Good on you for doing what you can.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/02/21 09:46 PM
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but the conclusion is never that the assumption was wrong, its that they just haven't looked in the right places yet The likely conclusion will end up being to stop looking at all. There was a post that bubbled up to my front page yesterday from ELI5 about IQ. A PhD student was weighing in and ended up being asked about race differences, and he parrots this thinking pretty directly. Basically "no, we can't prove differences don't exist yet, but anyone who is even looking into the question is rac…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/01/21 01:45 PM
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I'm not following what you mean. The Clinton v Trump numbers are very close (off a single percentage point), and even if we wave a wand and say that is the same in 2020, it doesn't support you point. This is the disparity you are calling "not very accurate?"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/01/21 11:20 PM
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Your second link is from 2018 and suggests the polling is to be trusted. The resulting sample of verified voters mirrored the election results very closely. After the validation was done and the sample was limited to those for whom a turnout record could be located, 48% reported voting for Hillary Clinton and 45% for Donald Trump; by comparison the official national vote tally was 48% for Clinton, 46% for Trump. The first is an hour long interview with an editor who is (at least according to the…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/01/21 07:42 PM
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worth noting that exit polls this year weren't very accurate, but most likely they actually overestimate trump support among key demographics What is this based on?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/01/21 06:37 PM
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Karen's a smart woman I doubt her brain turns off when discussing American politics. This is broaching a political gestalt that is a bridge too far for many. You may as well be saying something like "maybe Lucifer wasn't entirely wrong" to grandma.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/12/20 05:50 PM
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now I have to go back and rethink all the old videos of hers I watched to see if I was being bamboozled." "I lack sufficient truth parsing mechanisms and must rely on outgrouping in order to avoid being 'tricked' by wrongthink."
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/12/20 05:45 PM
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Its just purity testing. One of the left's great albatrosses. The true stupidity of it is that she is one of the most potent voices for men that exist, and has almost certainly done more to that end than anyone on this sub. But, ya know. Keep in mind she's right wing.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/12/20 05:42 PM
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I've been in a few conversations where I've mentioned that all this unpaid labor women do can in fact have a market value set to it. Housekeeping, babysitting, au pairs etc. These things exist. We can then, in the event of divorce, multiply out the years of this labor, half it (the children are half hers), and then deduct whatever the room and board situation would be. The resulting number is by definition a fair payout for what she is owed (or owes) in the event of separation. Perhaps predictab…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/12/20 07:07 PM
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That's not how it works. You don't have to take them at face value, but you also don't get to write them off purely because you don't like their politics.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/12/20 05:58 AM
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If it were the only source your point would have merit. Or if you have a competing source contradicting it. Otherwise this is not a valid criticism.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/12/20 05:35 PM
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What is a constructive path to real advocacy that addresses the cancerous aspects of pop-feminism without hysterics? That's a big question, so much so that it is basically the banner ask of the subreddit as a whole. But I think the small advice I'd give, that a man can start doing tomorrow, is to get into shape. I realize it doesn't attack all the issues, but the return is high. An enormous amount of the power in this dynamic is from raw sexual capital. Women have (much) more of it. Taking some …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/11/20 05:18 AM
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This has broad ramifications. Ignoring ideological campaigns against men is also unproductive -- and I don't think it's hysterical to assert that there are ideological movements whose aim is to harm mens' wellbeing. I was probably playing too fast and loose with "ignore." It would be more accurate that we should temper our expectation that anyone actually cares about those inequalities. That we cannot, as mentioned, draw water from that same well of victimhood women do. Not only is this ineffect…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/11/20 02:11 AM
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Its fine, and frankly I see it as a silly quibble to be concerned about it. Yeah, maybe there's some slight connotation that isn't 100% positive, but that's missing the forest for the trees. One of the places I probably differ from many on this sub is that I do not believe progress will be made within the framework/zeitgeist of victimhood. Both because of disingenuousness of the others in the conversation, and because of human biology. Men are better off ignoring those things and simply doing wh…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/11/20 12:47 AM
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I made my point. Citation needed.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/10/20 03:28 AM
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If you have some sort of point to make, please just make it. I'm not interested in tweeting back and forth.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/10/20 03:06 AM
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What a quality interaction.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/10/20 10:30 PM
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I feel like if you are spending any time considering your own questions, you'll figure it out pretty quick. For whatever reason women tend to like me so I don't need to spend as much money as other men who have to bridge a bit more of a gap.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/10/20 09:41 PM
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As in, I can get the same results while spending less money. So I can manage to spend less than the average.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/10/20 09:30 PM
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I am quite a bit more able to get away with not doing so than most, and still spend more than whoever I'm seeing. I know people with different convictions and differing charisma who spend far more.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/10/20 03:02 PM
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I imagine someone somewhere has done the math, but I'd like to see a rigorous assessment of what the spending obligation gap would be. A lifetime of being expected to shoulder the majority (or entirety) of so many expenses in recreation and relationship must amount to an enormous amount of money.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/10/20 08:15 AM
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I'm glad this guy is doing the drudge work on taking these people to task, but my real concern is how it even got this far. I mean how many people in sequence are signing off on this stuff, seeing no problem with it whatsoever? And how many things in a similar vein go off without a hitch because Mark Perry can't be everywhere? I mean structural discrimination is all the rage these days but what could be more structural, or more discriminatory?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/10/20 11:43 AM
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No insurance, no testing. This is true, however even without this, there are issues. Phase I clinical trials rely on volunteers to get drugs off the ground and into the pipeline for FDA approval. Even on trials that include women, or that are even women only, they have trouble getting women to volunteer. They will offer significantly more money to women to do the same studies, to say nothing of the female only studies that often pay significantly more than the average, and even offer signing bon…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/10/20 12:08 AM
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Really? How is that?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/09/20 11:38 PM
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That is pretty Machiavellian for 7th graders. And one was a "hardcore feminist?" At like 12 years old? While I don't doubt this dynamic is true, I kind of doubt this particular version of it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/09/20 07:18 PM
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It is the extremely common motte-bailey of fairness vs equality. They campaign and rationalize on a pretense of fairness, but are happy to make things unfair if they can achieve "equality."
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/09/20 11:31 PM
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Women are Wonderful is right yet again.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/09/20 10:49 PM
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When it comes to race I think it's pretty clear that minorities have things worse and that there are very few, if any, topics where that is not true Only if you pretend minority=black. There are multiple minority groups having superior outcomes to white people in income, education, martial success. Though less so, Hispanic groups have made significant gains as well.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/09/20 05:04 PM
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There's a pretty significant gradient among subreddits, but by and large you are right. Most are very feminist friendly, with some being borderline misandrist. It may be my misogyny talking but I generally find those subs to be much less interesting the more in that direction they go.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/09/20 04:52 PM
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This implies that her opinion might be invalid just because she works for a right wing company. If Reddit was no longer allowed to substitute out-grouping for arguments, the site would explode. It truly seems to be, without hyperbole, the basis of at least half of anything people say. The weird thing is that especially on this sub, most people should be very familiar with how stupid this can be. But if you change the particulars just a little, you can still get them to fall for it all over again…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/09/20 10:00 PM
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How can we convince left-wingers that advocating for men's problems isn't a right-wing recruitment tactic? By helping left wingers learn that reflexive outgroup dismissal is stupid. Seriously, it is becoming a trope at this point.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/08/20 04:35 AM
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This is the actual answer. Stop fighting the system and simply embrace it to absurdity.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/07/20 06:21 PM
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Gaslighting does not equal lying or disagreement. It is more involved than that. That is why until very recently it was basically only used in contexts between two people in a close relationship. Such conditions that almost by definition cannot exist in the public way it is constantly used.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/07/20 02:53 AM
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Meanwhile, those raging sexists, absolutely fucking love the term. Can't get enough of it. Bring it up all the time, using it in the wrong ways then gaslighting people by retreating to the "Official definition", and so on. Unlike practically every other time I see the word used, gaslighting in this context does actually sort of fit. A better term, however, would be motte and bailey: So the motte-and-bailey doctrine is when you make a bold, controversial statement. Then when somebody challenges y…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/07/20 08:40 AM
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I would urge everyone to consider the possibility that this isn't "embarrassing" for a lot of these women at all. It's the point. You are presuming they feel the way they feel because of some philosophical position about equality, when a great huge amount of them (based on the near zero backlash to these sorts of things) are simply using it as a grift to get ahead. They don't care that Biden promised to diversity hire his VP; all they care about is that they get it, not about how. The difference…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/06/20 01:06 AM
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Sounds like its just a compartmentalized version of something LBJ said: "If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you."
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/06/20 05:37 PM
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Like 90% of all "dialogue" is just fucking noise at this point. Various groups trying to straw man/motte bailey and hoodwink the others. Find a moron on twitter and pretend there are ten million of the same people hiding behind the bushes. No on ever gets down to any good faith meat and potatoes discussion of the issues.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/06/20 07:18 PM
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There are a couple things happening at once with this sentiment. For one: most people's political views are so entrenched, reactive, and frankly simple, that they generally view anyone deviating from their particular gospel as a heretic, and thus, an enemy. The fact that this article is even being written is testament to that. For another: the left has allowed the rot of identity politics to take over almost their entire being. Even this sub's existence is something of a nod to the idea that wha…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/06/20 02:06 AM
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As a useful concept it falls apart. Who decides what is/isn't justified? An accusation of tone policing is simply a hand wave of not having to justify that specific anger in a nuts and bolts sense. It is a rhetorical escape hatch.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/06/20 02:24 PM
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We aren't talking about method, we are talking about conclusion.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/05/20 12:08 PM
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Rather being hyper concerned with in/out grouping, you are more than welcome to post any left leaning analysis of male issues. But good luck finding any.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/05/20 12:06 PM
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Awhile back I was looking into small business loans from the city of Austin. The page of who qualified was weirdly long. I started reading through it and realized pretty quickly that, rather than just say "no white men," they listed every permutation of every other group they could think of, and encouraged other underrepresented groups to apply as well.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/05/20 01:37 AM
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Its likely a promalecollective sock account. Its only 6 hours old. They are obsessed with circumcision, and its all this account has talked about.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/05/20 01:14 PM
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I know there are some places that do something in this vein, but there is often tension between back of house and front of house for this very reason: the tipped positions often make more (sometimes much more) than the non-tipped, even with their higher hourly wage.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/05/20 07:06 PM
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I know it changes in other places, but in the US at least adding in tips would catapult that to probably ~25ish dollars an hour. Depends on lots of factors. There are going to be days where it is less and days where it is more. But everyone I know who waited tables made far more than their "normal" job peers. College aged girls in particular would make so much money they had trouble keeping motivation to stay in school at all.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/05/20 06:11 PM
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This is much like the a sort of "waitress effect" : they'll decry the average as oppressive, but given the chance will choose that job over most others, and resist converting that job to "normal" wages. The reason being of course that that job is better than the alternatives. Most waitstaff do pretty good comparatively, and some do very well. But pushing the narrative of otherwise, they mean to earn more sympathy/money. At its most charitable, this is having your cake and eating it too. If you w…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/05/20 05:49 PM
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It will probably sound reductive, but I think the most effective answer to the questions you pose is that we should simply stop caring what women think. Form our own spaces. Exclude women as we see fit. Organize politically and agitate for our own interests. Insofar as feminists or anyone else wants to join that party: great, happy to have you. But they do not steer the ship. If that sounds harsh, keep in mind that is what women are already doing to men now. As anyone who has spent time in those…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/05/20 11:22 PM
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That is a shame. Is there anything that can be done to fix that? If /u/serpentineeyelash doesn't want to run things I'd think the least he could do is give the active mods enough power to meaningfully manage the sub.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/05/20 10:16 AM
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Everyone knows exactly who the problem is. Just ban them and be done with it. I mean look at their account: the account is 11 days old and has over 250 posts. Not comments. Submitted posts to various subs.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/05/20 02:47 AM
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It suffuses everything. The general un-acknowledgement of it is near criminal considering how much people love to talk about biases and prejudice in nearly any other context.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/05/20 05:19 PM
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It is cringy and dumb, but I don't think that's actually "the problem" with things like that. For one thing, a simple swapping of genders will show a double standard. Such a thing probably wouldn't be allowed to exist at all, let alone be popular the way "the future is female" is. For another, it betrays a very immature idea of what power dynamics should be, and really of what kind of vapid sloganism a lot of these people believe in. Its just the social justice version of "live laugh love" hangi…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/04/20 11:06 PM
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NTA... His low pain tolerance isn't the problem, it's his reaction to it. You can control your reactions to things. I don't actually disagree, but I would love if women took responsibility for managing their own emotional state as per this rule.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/04/20 06:54 PM
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/u/Colombian-mra you have 4 different top level comments on an 8 comment post.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/04/20 06:52 PM
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I'm not against unions? Or a "rightoid?" Though you seem stupid enough to antagonize for fun so feel free to keep believing both.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/04/20 03:34 PM
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Yes. It varies by state, but generally teacher salaries beat the average of other bachelor degree holders. This is while having a major that is consistently ranked as easiest, and getting months off from work a year. To say nothing of teacher unions, and the seemingly never-ending public sympathy.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/04/20 07:19 AM
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Not to trivialize too hard, but the "people vs things" dichotomy is glaringly obvious.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/04/20 06:07 AM
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The male dominated jobs keep the world turning. I'm not sure what you mean about kickbacks but it would make sense to subsidize critical industries if it were somehow necessary. As far as the rest I assume you really just mean education? In the US teachers are paid fairly well, despite the narrative they are not.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/04/20 06:05 AM
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The resistance to child care is an obvious one, but I am a little surprised by elder care. I'd think that track to want all the help it could get.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/04/20 08:08 PM
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I've seen pushes to get men into health professions, because they are stronger and can lift patients more easily. That and sometimes they get violent. Gotta have men around for that one too.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/04/20 07:58 PM
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Are there any tech companies with more women than men employees? Maybe, but I can guarantee they aren't in technical roles. The vast majority of women I meet who are "in tech" are in marketing, HR, or recruiting. Its weird how we never hear about more male recruitment for human resources.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/04/20 07:00 PM
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Given the chance, they'll kill the people they hate I think you should probably take a step back and try to get some perspective. This is not the least bit true.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/04/20 02:30 AM
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It’s only serves rightwing interests to flatten the political spectrum into a binary and erase the diversity of leftwing thought. I actually think it serves the interests of both establishment parties to organize in this way. It more or less fixes the game. They do not want third way options. The mere existence of this sub shows how well the left seems to tolerate divergent thought. I don't think they need any help in that department.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/04/20 11:01 PM
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Otherwise your discomfort with feminism might push you out of the leftist sphere and into some right-wing space where it's easier to fall prey to ideas like "Well, if they're being hateful, why can't I be too?" As someone who travels between both pretty freely, I see far more hatred coming from the left than the right (as this post exemplifies).
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/04/20 10:57 PM
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The quibble is that you are describing that individualism as inherently antagonistic and disingenuous, and my point is that it is not. It is seeking to solve many of the same problems through different means.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/04/20 05:34 PM
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Well, just glancing at the first google result for IQ distribution, average and sub average alone account for ~70% of the population. Men will make up a disproportionate amount of this cohort. Add to this a competitive aspect to college admissions and it could further drive this proportion out. Then there's affirmative action policies, and the general tendency of boys to have lower levels of conscientiousness in general. Its a cocktail of factors, certainly. But the rule of thumb seems to hold t…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/04/20 04:37 PM
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The citations are in the article. I'm not sure what you'd want me to add to it. I mean there are a million possible confounding factors; the school system is non-optimal for boys, and even agreeing on what "success" looks like is its own conversation. The entire "things vs people" dynamic is obviously a big elephant in that. But anecdotally it seems to hold true in the general sense of nature rolling the dice with xy chromosomes more than xx, whether you are looking at prison populations or Nobe…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/04/20 04:22 PM
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The right is hyper individualistic and doesn't want to be "bothered" to help other people. This is not accurate from a philosophical standpoint. The right simply believes in different ways of getting it done. Mostly, they believe in charity and building community; the church, often checking both boxes, is usually more popular with them for this reason. As corollary, they do not appreciate what they see as having their charity dictated to them. There are a lot of downstream implications built int…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/04/20 03:20 PM
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There's always been a contingent of a few guys (or guy) from the ProMaleCollective harping on circumcision nonstop. Seeing as how OP's account is 4 days old and they are pushing a new sub which they moderate, it seems like the same guys trying to rebrand. They even have the same YouTube style.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/04/20 03:12 PM
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I sometimes fret in this issue because my mind likes to portray the worst-case scenario; that girls outnumbering and out-performing boys is natural in true gender equality The variability hypothesis would suggest that this is the natural distribution. Women occupy more of the mean, while men occupy the extremes. In an "equal" scenario, you would probably always seen more women in college, but the upper echelon will be overwhelmingly male. Which is much of what you see now.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/04/20 03:06 PM
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I'd be curious to have you reference what you think the worst thing he's said is. For perspective. In a world where practically any disagreement with feminism's narrative is called "misogyny," I have low faith in the word.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/04/20 12:13 PM
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Sure. I suspect that the overlap of the two groups will be fairly strong.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/04/20 02:17 AM
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Perhaps so, but I don't think that would explain the rather striking disparity in attempts/successes.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/04/20 08:13 PM
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Every time I've looked at those stats it seems that broadly speaking, one of two things must be true: Women "mean it" much less than men when they try to kill themselves. Or Women are much less competent at killing themselves than men are. You see stats like gun ownership thrown around to explain this away but in many places that doesn't wash. Gun ownership in Japan is almost non-existent, yet they manage just fine with hanging. It really is a strange problem, and I suspect there is some third w…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/04/20 08:01 PM
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I suppose that all breaks down to what "unnecessary" means to you.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/04/20 11:16 AM
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To be frank, society would collapse overnight without the gross exploitation of male labor. Someplace, I believe Mexico, recently had a day of absence for women where they didn't show up for work etc. To show how important they are. Personally, I think it more showed the opposite. I would absolutely love for men to do this.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/04/20 09:42 AM
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I dare say that, if you were to add Women Are Wonderful to the mix, it becomes more clear that white liberals do not have a problem with other white people, they have a problem with white men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/04/20 09:13 AM
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I'm not convinced that's true, but either way, from a functional standpoint for men there's little difference.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/04/20 07:08 PM
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You'll note that this is the exact same way a seller of goods talks about the value of their products...depending on if they're talking to buyers or other sellers Many, many people are hyper resistant to the idea, but analyzing sex/dating/relationships with a market overlay is enormously predictive. My suspicion is that most of the male resistance to the idea is because they don't want it to be true, and most of the female resistance to the idea is that they don't want the secret to get out. The…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/04/20 10:32 AM
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Any time people talk about the left as an entity I can't help but think of the Exiting the Vampire's Castle essay.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/04/20 10:25 AM
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I don't hate UBI as an idea, but it has to be taken into account that it would be nigh impossible to wean the public off of it, should it be decided it was unworkable. Think of any politician trying to drop medicare or social security. It may very well be the best path forward but any decision you can't undo deserves extra deliberation.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/03/20 07:08 PM
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The OP is mostly getting roasted in the comments so that's encouraging. I think its important not to fall into the trap of all those "journalists" these days of finding some weirdo on twitter and using them to overstate a viewpoint's prevalence.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/03/20 04:40 PM
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I just don't know how to express how much I hate feminism. It's literally my most existential threat in a lot of ways. What's life without friends? That's what feminism has done to me. I've said it before on this sub but I think men's groups/clubs need to make a comeback.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/03/20 01:00 AM
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“Women don't want to hear what you think. Women want to hear what they think - in a deeper voice.” Unfortunately that's Bill Cosby but he nailed that one seems to be.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/02/20 11:42 PM
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I was a lot more concerned with preceding sentence. Her opportunism. I don't see any reason to think she has personal character. Even if her party shift is genuine (I doubt it), it doesn't actually change that.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/02/20 12:43 AM
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You are the one who brought up Elizabeth Warren. Don't get sad because someone calls you on your nonsense.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/02/20 12:40 AM
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Go ahead and make a case for why that should matter. Not being rhetorical. Lay out why some of his supporters being disagreeable (we'll simply presume that true) actually means he shouldn't be president.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/02/20 11:58 PM
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Elizabeth Warren's views are very similar to Bernie's and her supporters aren't assholes. But she herself is. From accusing Sanders of sexism to pretending to be Native American, she has proven herself to be an absolute opportunist that is willing to lie. She was a republican until 1996, for fuck's sake. Why accept Bernie-lite when you could just have the real thing? The version that doesn't lie. Because you don't like his supporters? What a stupid reason.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/02/20 11:56 PM
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I'll quote myself from that thread: I think a fair few people on this sub already realize it, but idpol in general is essentially just a giant grift by women, mostly white women. It isn't even hard to find people within that movement saying something similar. They control the whole thing. Somewhat ironically, the vast majority of it's spread and adoption is due solely by women's social privilege. The exact same complaints are basically jokes if coming from outgroups.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/02/20 10:40 PM
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Or it would have been dropped in favor of masculinity long ago. Not just a few women doing masculine things, but no women doing feminine things, dropped like a bad habit. I think it good life advice in general, but as regards gender conversation I think it pays to really hone in on people's behavior versus what they say. Dissonance can give a lot of insight. I see a similar dynamic whenever I read about harrowing accounts of women that have to put up with men trying to interact/sleep with them a…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/02/20 05:54 PM
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There are no girls on the internet
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/02/20 04:41 AM
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If for some reason you need to go through the crucible of understanding that no one cares about men like they do women, this video can be helpful. It is otherwise 101 gender stuff. Honestly the left is better abandoning this entire line of interrogation.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/02/20 06:49 AM
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I don't want to simplify too much, but at the end of the day the things that seem a good direction to me are things our grandfathers would probably see as obvious. I'm ok with growing pains, and leaving space for society to become something other than what it was, but I think we are somewhat throwing the baby out with the bathwater with our current approach. We are mostly just apes, we don't evolve that fast.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/02/20 12:48 AM
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I can't call myself a fan of RedPill stuff, but what it does do is communicate a lot of information most guys need to hear, and quickly. It also gives a very paint by numbers plan for what to do with that information. It is, if nothing else, effective. I don't think its all good, but to be quite honest I think its harm is overstated; a man would be worse off absorbing /r/menslib for a month than TRP for the same. Part of the reason it is so effective and has stuck around so long though is becaus…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/01/20 06:50 PM
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I'd prefer a strategy less focused on politics and more focused on actionable personal advice. I love the idea of reviving men's groups. I like the idea of having pragmatic, if cynical, advice for younger men such as always getting a prenup. Just communicating that the world is not a Disney movie and women do not necessarily have your best interests at heart would be a great step forward. Most of all I'd like to see men recapture a bit more of their personal power. It sounds a bit inglorious, bu…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/01/20 06:19 PM
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I believe you are mistaken to think they are trying to achieve equilibrium, insofar as a single decision-making center even exists. Oh I'm not the least bit convinced they are trying for any kind of equilibrium. But I think that is how they would paint their efforts to the layman. The only real question for me personally is separating the disingenuous grifters from the people that actually believe all those things but just aren't smart enough to understand what they are pontificating for.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/01/20 03:37 AM
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seeing one gender as the oppressor, and the other as the victim is the cardinal sin of feminism that beings to turn them into a religion. I see this as being a axiomatic issue in feminism in particular but identity politics in general. They have a baked in inability to achieve equilibrium because everything is set up in a sort of zero sum winner/loser calculus.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/01/20 03:26 AM
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Blank slatism is a very understandable, but incorrect response to this — it's important not to exaggerate them, or be 100% gender essentialist, but some gender differences do exist. I'm not convinced it really is that important. For one thing, the studies supporting such a view are descriptive, not prescriptive. For another, there is a study I'm thinking of (which I believe I first saw here) showed that there was a significant bias in scientific studies gaining traction when they showed bias aga…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/01/20 03:09 AM
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To be fair, this is likely true I really don't think so. I think nearly everything that looks like competence in that vein is just some cascade from Women Are Wonderful. I think leveraging their gender is absolutely critical to most women's social success. There's science in this vein asserting that in the basic sense attractive people are seen as having higher amounts of social skill, while there are very mixed results on sex differences in emotional intelligence at all if you happen to believe…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/01/20 02:52 AM
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I'm not sure what point you are trying to make
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/01/20 12:50 AM
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I think we can learn from this. If there were groups working on individual, specific men's issues and popularizing / raising awareness for them, we might succeed in putting them on the agenda. I think in this particular point I differ from most of this sub: I think adopting feminist tactics as a copy-paste to male issues won't really be effective, and in some cases might even backfire. Whether by nature or nurture, women garner enormously more sympathy than men. I think that the idea that there …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/01/20 12:49 AM
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I'm honestly not sure how you square your first and second sentences.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/01/20 09:30 PM
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Well I think that they objectively do. Even if we grant this, it is not true as a category; as in, there are men whose interpersonal skills are greater. By tethering it to gender rather than ability, it is sexist. A similarly qualified/able man would be passed over for no reason other than being male. I would urge you to reconsider your position on this because you very obviously have not thought it through.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/01/20 09:14 PM
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You aren't really addressing what I said. Your example is still presupposing women have superior interpersonal skills. That is: they didn't start adding an "interpersonal" component to their hiring, they added a diversity initiative that dictated it be women under the auspice of interpersonal hiring. There were probably plenty of men with just at the same skill level whose grades were also less ideal, who got passed over for the reason that they had a penis. If I can speak quite frankly, my life…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/01/20 09:05 PM
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She has strong technical skills, but is also not perfect (nobody is). But she is better at forming relationships outside of the team and that's absolutely a skill that the IT team needs. In context of my class, this was no the case. They were not superlative in any way. There were multiple men with superior technical and interpersonal skills. The idea that women are automatically better at those things is frankly just as sexist as assuming they have no technical ability.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/01/20 08:54 PM
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Over here, they are offering a couple of female-only classes in STEM fields, especially computer science I can offer some insight here as I just completed a software bootcamp. The hunger for hiring women in software roles is completely and totally off the rails. In my class of 28 people, only two people graduated already with jobs, and it was the only two women. We had a recruiter who spoke to the class at one point but she was only interested in hiring the women. The bootcamp itself is trying i…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/01/20 08:21 PM
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A great post, and a greater sentiment. I've been to some extent involved with the ideas of maleness and masculinity for over a decade and I'm not sure the last time I heard someone reference Iron John or the mythopoetic men's movement. The death of male spaces is a relatively recent phenomenon, and even just a few decades ago even in the climate of feminism the idea of male emotional support groups was not crazy. I think you could make a very good argument that maleness as loneliness is not our …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/01/20 05:41 PM
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From what I remember from my anthro major, inequality emerges in every society with > 200-300 people. It doesn't have to be money based, but as soon as you force equalization in one area, another will emerge At the absolute most bare analysis, there are at the very least genetic differences which will make some women more attractive/desirable than others. This is all you need to create a cascade of climbing behaviors from both men and women in whatever metrics are available to them. Of course, w…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/01/20 06:31 AM
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Instead they talked about that orchestra study over and over again like the 40 years that took place after it was implemented didn't have any effect. The orchestra study itself was bunk https://reason.com/2019/10/22/orchestra-study-blind-auditions-gelman/
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/01/20 01:56 PM
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If that so much the case, then why have men ruled our civilizations for most of recorded history? A large question, but the simplest in-context answer that comes to mind is basically the variability hypothesis. Even considering gender related trends, the upper level of ability in any particular skill set will probably skew male. You said before you didn't mean it was a malicious desire, but I guess I'm having trouble understanding the distinction you're trying to make, because wanting to control…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/01/20 08:02 PM
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It was that feminists didn't understand reality. And that's why Trump won. Voters got upset about an objectively false narrative being blindly pushed by feminists (the wage gap, the 1 in 4 myth, etc), and this made Trump look good by comparison. After all, if "liberals" are lying about these issues, what else are they lying about? I really like CHS and much enjoy seeing her in the wild anywhere. In reference to your final sentence, I would mention, more for the gallery, this article: Inoculation…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/01/20 09:23 AM
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Let me ask you something: what do you think drives this supposed desire for control in relationships among women, and why don't we see the same thing in men? In the simplest sense, male power is calibrated towards the outside world; this is why it is almost categorical that (even now!) natural sciences and "things" subjects are more popular among men than women. Women, by virtue of evolutionary necessity, are much better at calibrating towards people. For lack of more nuanced language, they need…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/01/20 09:01 AM
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When men fail to express their own in return, and instead choose to just cave to women's requests, it results in a power imbalance, but not because women are trying to control their relationships—they're just trying to manage them well in the way to which they're accustomed. I may be missing something in what you are saying here, but it would seem to be that your essential position is that women are "winning" the relationship game because men are ceding the field. What then do you make of all th…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/01/20 08:52 AM
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I'm not saying there's some secret memo they are all privy to, I'm just saying that they simply have a better understanding of the dynamics involved. Combined with that, I think they have an ambivalent attitude towards using that understanding to their advantage. It doesn't take a grand conspiracy, it simply takes the will to power. Take as analogue the social justice movement: they defend with utmost ferocity their dominion over social justice language. They will literally redefine words like r…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/01/20 02:56 PM
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It honestly concerns me a little, because writ large this kind of thing can't go on forever. I'm paraphrasing but Jordan Peterson said something along the lines that social justice and their like are haranguing white men thinking they will become infinitely shameful and roll over, but it is even more likely that they eventually become cruel and ruthless and fight back. Historically speaking, that has not generally been a great thing for everyone else. The promises of liberalism and modern societ…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/01/20 02:28 PM
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I suppose it matters a lot what you mean by "hate". I wrote a different comment in another sub somewhat in this vein. It admittedly shoots from the hip a bit, but my end analysis was that left leaning women are somewhat singularly antagonistic towards men (white men, in particular) in society. It isn't very far to connect that dot to the one we are talking about.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/01/20 02:07 PM
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The end result being that women extert more control in romantic relationships on average, but likely don't see it as them "trying to control" it, so much as "trying to be communicative and work on maintaining it." I think most women are generally receptive to men who meet them halfway in this regard, whereas, if they were truly being controlling, they'd resent it and want men to back off and just obey. I understand the mild conspiratorial tone I'm putting off here, but entertain for a moment the…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/01/20 01:54 PM
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This is something of a rabbit hole that I think most of this sub (and humanity) would rather not discuss, but it eventually leads to a situation of believing women are at large either apathetic or even antagonistic towards men. My experience has been that most will preserve the opposite ideal at nearly any cost.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/01/20 01:42 PM
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This is an example of toxic femininity: women feeling entitled to male attention over other men. This is essentially a point in support of a previous comment we have talked about. The essential situation is that women seem to feel entitled to control of all social situations they find themselves in.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/01/20 12:00 PM
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"Bro" is such a pejorative that was used for Bernie Bros, as an implication that they were irredeemably white and male, and so deserving of disdain.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/01/20 11:57 AM
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I think this leads to the erosion of male communities in general, and men often have to decide whether they are going to have romantic relationships, or platonic ones but they can't have both. As commentary to this, and somewhat /u/mtcapri's question, I think you can lay much of the blame for this on the somewhat dictatorial tone many women take towards their partner's friend group. I've noticed a very strong interest in women to prune and curate their partner's social life to basically be just …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/01/20 11:10 PM
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Do we really need to do this facebook nonsense? Just send him the link.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/01/20 07:31 AM
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In an explicitly left leaning sub I'm a little surprised I haven't seen anyone talk about the parallels but women essentially treat any attempt on the part of men to "unionize" socially as harshly as any Fortune 500. Men's dating strategy is roughly analogous to talk about your pay with your co-workers.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/01/20 08:29 AM
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I don't think you will ever see a generation of men who meet feminist standards, because feminist activism for women is built on criticizing men as a gender I'd slightly modify this to say it is built on accruing social/material power, but that often takes the form of criticizing men. You can see the difference in how feminism will treat transgressions within the western sphere vs things outside of it. As they don't really gain anything by haranguing those other groups, they don't do it even tho…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/01/20 03:11 AM
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The discrepancy between the amount of maternity leave and paternity leave is one of the most fundamentally sexist aspects of societies around the world, and it's sexist towards both men and women. It is worth mentioning that there are some places (I believe Canada?) where the leave is "shared" and the father and mother can split it up however they like. Take a wild guess how that ends up working out. I would also mention that your point about employer reticence would apply just as easily to men …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/01/20 05:29 AM
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I presume the mods have some powers to check such things? I don't know a lot about how moderation works. Speaking just from what I've seen, I'd consider the case to be pretty strong. A lot of the same turns of phrase, same trouble spelling, same generally low mental horsepower. And the accounts always seem to show up in threads with each other and upvote/downvote as a group. Even if they aren't sock puppets, nothing of value would be lost.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/01/20 08:15 PM
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I agree, but I think there is some "critical mass" where it becomes fairly reasonable to speak more plainly. What that level is I suppose is up for debate, but in this case I would say it qualifies for me. I'd actually even argue that in a sort of broken window theory of gender relations, it is actually these everyday nuts and bolts type of things like expecting men to pay that end up percolating up to stuff like reduced sentencing for women. While few women are guilty of explicitly supporting t…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/01/20 08:11 PM
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I'm honestly a little confused why they are still allowed to post here.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/01/20 07:13 PM
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If you go out on a date with a woman, the vast majority of the time she is going to expect you to pay. Half the time they even bother offering to split, its theater. This is an active thing they are doing, that they could choose to not do. They obviously choose to continue it. Something like YesAllMen is more about intrinsic qualities. That your existence is something of an original sin.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/01/20 07:09 PM
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Fair enough. I'm just advocating the optimism be tempered.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/01/20 06:58 PM
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I would generally agree that the delineation matters, but in this particular context I'm not sure there's enough distance between the two as to be meaningful. Most of the ways that women are advantaged have a sort of tacit acceptance among women at large. Individual women can usually decline much of this if they choose to, they simply don't.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/01/20 06:54 PM
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Devil's advocate moment: Women are (mostly) aware of everything you have said here, and are proceeding accordingly. Modern feminism spends practically all its time obsessing over the smallest slight toward women; they almost certainly know men's lot by extension. They simply don't care. Women have fairly little interest in changing the status quo, and even less in changing it in an intellectually honest way that makes their position worse. In a sense, things are the way they are because women de…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/01/20 05:20 PM
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I think you are presupposing an amount of intellectual honesty that may not exist.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/01/20 05:08 PM
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How do you deal with being called right wing? By not caring. Modern discourse in general, and the left in particular, is extremely preoccupied with in-groups and out-groups. Here is a rather lengthy essay I like on the topic. When you realize that like 80% of the left's current dialectic is to find a way to pigeon its enemies (and friends!) into various labels that can then be leveraged for/against them, most of this sort of thing loses a lot of steam. Its all just a big shell game with words. I…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/01/20 04:37 PM
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As a history teacher, one thing I teach my students is to always "consider the source." Being that, when someone says something to you or tries to label you a certain way, consider who it is coming from. Does the person who labels you in that way have the proper credentials to make such a statement or are they talking out of their ass? What grade are you teaching? Because I'll be honest, I don't feel like this kind of advice is truly that great. In a mild way, its just more identity politics. Du…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/01/20 04:15 PM
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Whether it be by literal attractiveness, or the asymmetry of sex drive, I'm not sure it makes a significant difference in real world outcomes.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/01/20 04:39 AM
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It would be interesting if the difference in treatment is attraction-based rather than sex based I've actually had this opinion for some time. Warning: inappropriate opinion follows. I think much of the privilege people talk about is actually directly correlated to their G factor of attractiveness, explaining much of those various -isms. I would be very surprised to find out a very attractive black woman was not advantaged over a schlubby or even average white man. Now what is considered attract…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/01/20 11:11 PM
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If you view feminists, and mostly social justice as a whole, through the lens of "words as weapons" it starts to make sense. They aren't actually trying to change minds, or to explore a concept in any kind of intellectually honest way. They are trying to capture the most psychic real estate they can, and leverage to their (rather more mundane) social and material advantage. I rather like this article on the subject: If I am right, “racism” and “privilege” and all the others are exactly what ever…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/01/20 06:40 PM
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I'm rather outspoken about most of my views, even to my female friends. I get away with it for whatever reason. Most of those women truly do not understand. They are living in an almost parallel world. They aren't being malicious, and they aren't dumb; they just think their baseline is roughly average for everyone. The ones who do get it, I've noticed, seem to be the girls who are "newly" attractive; usually they lost a bunch of weight or got braces later in life or something. They have a pre an…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/01/20 06:31 PM
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I'd hesitate to call it hate. More like misguided good intent. I really do believe they think they are doing the right thing. They are just wrong.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/01/20 04:12 PM
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In the 335-word release, the words men, man or male do not appear at any time. Meanwhile, the word “women” appears seven times, and non-binary and non-cisgender appear twice each. (Cisgender means a person identifies with his or her sex.) I'm reminded a bit of a program that was available in Austin for small business loans from the city. They had a looong list of who qualified for these loans. Reading through it I realized that they were simply listing all the permutations they could think of th…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/01/20 11:47 PM
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I have seen others make arguments such as that father don't seek custody as much, and when they do they usually get it, among others. I'm not aware of studies in this vein, but I can say anecdotally from working in a law office in college that there was a sentiment that they would try not to represent fathers in custody disputes because of how rough they were. I can also anecdotally say that a friend recently went through a renegotiation dispute of a 10 year old divorce that besides spending 50k…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/12/19 08:55 PM
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It actually makes sense in context of the beginning of the article that the aim was to not breach laws about racial discrimination. Of course, it then goes on to talk about this and it starts to seem a lot less reasonable.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/12/19 06:56 PM
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I don't know that I'll ever view "hey hey, ho ho, something something's got to go" or other features of rallies and marches the same way, after thinking about this stuff. It all just feels like chimpanzees hopping and whooping and thumping the ground to me. I've sometimes wondered (and then had to make myself stop) that it simply isn't possible for humans to pass the Great Filter. That we are intrinsically doomed to rush headlong into destruction of our own making. There just seem to be too many…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/12/19 09:10 PM
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They love the expression "mental defect", "mentally deficient" etc. and apply it to pretty much everyone who disagrees with them. This among other idiosyncrasies are part of why I think it is just one guy (or maybe a few guys with multiple accounts). At the absolute least, they very obviously coordinate to upvote each other's posts/comments, and downvote dissent. The only participation they ever have is in "their" threads, and you can reliably find several of them interacting within minutes of e…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/12/19 08:39 PM
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He's alright. I wouldn't kick him out of my comment section.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/12/19 08:44 PM
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You are actively trying to gain support for your ideas in a place that, dare I say it, leans much more my direction than yours. You may not want my support in particular, but you certainly want it from people like me in general. Which is of course, obvious. Your response is less a question and more a school yard gibe. Which goes to show that you could use some more intellectual horsepower in your "movement."
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/12/19 08:43 PM
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But the tradcons in the thread seemed to use this as an opportunity to argue that women are happier as housewives. They aren't wrong. Or rather, they aren't wrong in the context of mothers. Most data I've seen gives a mild majority of working mothers staying home if they had the option. Women without children is a different story, but not by as much as you'd expect. It only flips about ~15% if I remember correctly.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/12/19 01:09 AM
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I believe will unify physics and social sciences and I will send it this monday to one of my professional idols Uh...what?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/12/19 12:55 AM
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It really just depends on what you see as the "goal" of the men's movement. Is it PR, or is it fact finding? I think you can make a pretty good argument for either. It would seem Karen sides on the latter. So in the context of interviewing him there's really no conflict: we need to know how people arrive where he arrived, if for no other reason than how to stop it from continuing to happen. In that, it isn't really any different than interviewing a serial killer. If you see the men's movement as…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/12/19 10:06 PM
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Whatever movement you think you are, I want no part of it. I'll do better completely alone than with you as allies.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/12/19 09:41 PM
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Is that question relevant in some way? I notice you are avoiding my own question, which I asked first. Is there a real criticism here or is it just as I said?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/12/19 09:38 PM
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Its almost like you didn't even read the post. Either way, its either one guy with sock puppets or a handful of morons who all share the same mental deficiencies. Which of the two, it hardly matters.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/12/19 09:37 PM
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Friendly reminder that these guys (or likely, guy) are known for brigading the sub. /u/5th_Law_of_Robotics made a post about it here.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/12/19 08:57 PM
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Friendly reminder that these guys (or likely, guy) are known for brigading the sub. /u/5th_Law_of_Robotics made a post about it here.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/12/19 08:56 PM
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I was only able to stomach a couple minutes worth, but it sounds like the standard ProMaleCollective purity testing to me. Is there something substantive I missed here? It was all just out-group associations and whining. If we measure her contribution to men's rights versus that of literally every single thing your entire subreddit and its members have ever posted she still comes out well ahead. Not hard to do, mind you. I'd count all your efforts as a net negative. So technically someone who ha…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/12/19 08:52 PM
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Its almost a broken clock situation. They are just finding themselves "accidentally" right in a particular context because that's where their emotionalism has landed them. They didn't derive it from first principles.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/12/19 06:10 AM
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I think its rather obvious that this is simply your chosen vehicle for socially sanctioned hatred. Wallow in that as much as you wish, I suppose, but you drag the rest of us down with you when you do so. It is not appreciated.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/12/19 06:08 AM
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And I genuinely feel uncomfortable that people could put me in the same catagory as you as part of the men's movement In his own linked thread he says "You came to the wrong sub motherfucka'. You get the wall, Nazi" So not only does /u/EqualRightsAdvocate apparently have a tenuous grasp on what both fascism and nazism are, but he alludes to killing people. Allies such as these, we do not need.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/12/19 05:56 AM
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Lying ≠ gaslighting. Gaslighting is a rather more serious thing, and relatively specific. Its not just anything someone does that is bad.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/12/19 06:05 PM
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Your hold on reality should be stronger then. Lying and gaslighting are not the same thing, in the same way bumping into someone is not assault. We should strive to use words appropriately.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/12/19 06:01 PM
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Friendly reminder, gaslighting is a different thing than you probably mean here. Gaslighting would imply a concerted effort over time to make you doubt your own sanity, involving shifting reality around to accommodate the effort.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/12/19 08:33 PM
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It's just more Feminist gaslighting. Not to be taken seriously. Friendly reminder, gaslighting is a different thing than you probably mean here. Gaslighting would imply a concerted effort over time to make you doubt your own sanity, involving shifting reality around to accommodate the effort.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/12/19 08:32 PM
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/UnPopularOpinion is much more of a hate sub I really can't agree. I've been there a fair amount and their primary issue is that people (as per sub theme) don't mind saying things that the rest of reddit would not like. I think calling that hate is rather overboard.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/12/19 05:46 PM
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And both him and the mother have been in court together, on the same side, trying to make it so he doesn't have to pay child support because he's legitimately not the father. But the state doesn't care. He's on a form somewhere, by accident, and has no legal recourse even though the mother is on his side. This seems like one of those moments where it is a nigh criminal error for the state to not have some kind of class or advisement on what these documents actually mean. Similar problem with mar…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/12/19 05:43 PM
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Well said. I'd say the primary difference, at least for me, between the two groups is that the first only needs egalitarian ideals to be applied consistently to solve the problem, while the second is asking for exceptions to those ideals.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/12/19 05:38 PM
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There are studies showing that people don't like female bosses. It's not a particularly important point, but it's the closest thing I can think of. I don't have the time to go hunting for it, but if its the same research I'm thinking of, its not exactly that people don't like female bosses, so much as that they like them less than they would otherwise. That is, the Women are Wonderful Effect diminishes when women are in more "masculine" roles, but they still end up rating higher than men in thos…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/12/19 05:14 PM
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I hadn't considered this before but it makes sense: there is a selection bias for women who make it to a significant level to be happier to be there. Men's quality of life is linked much more strongly to their level of achievement, while women's is less so.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/12/19 05:10 PM
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I've been around since the beginning and it absolutely has more traffic than before. Most of it good, all things considered.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/12/19 01:22 AM
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I actually know someone fairly high up on the left side of the aisle (think: spends most of the day in the same room as someone currently running for President), and I can tell you that from the bottom up this kind of sentiment is completely acceptable and expected. If you think what actually bubbles up to the surface is bad, you should know this is after it has been curbed for public consumption. The sentiment is considerably worse than even this.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/12/19 11:39 PM
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I do not subscribe to the idea that women are biologically inferior or reluctant leaders and I do not care to change your mind about it if this is what you believe. End of discussion. I think the problem is that the speeches like the one linked basically do say this, in the other direction. In the same breath men are essentially being called inferior leaders, as well as patriarchal oppressors. It is fairly natural that men would defend themselves with reasonably sound facts refuting this. In fac…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/12/19 05:39 PM
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Whether there is a contradiction or not is not relevant either. You are avoiding the question.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/12/19 08:46 PM
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You are still missing the point. Whether she is right wing is irrelevant. Though, you also failed at citing any of these supposedly right wing views either way. The point was to take the conversation away from outgroup associations and into actual ideas. Ok, so lets say she's right wing: now what? What is she wrong about specifically?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/12/19 08:40 PM
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I assume that women are more loyal to their community I think this is a bit off. Women are more concerned with being a part of a community. This is not because of loyalty, it is based on the fact that the community is her base organism for being able to procure resources and leverage her implicit advantages.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/12/19 08:23 PM
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Ad hominem in this context is appropriate. /u/J-Unleashed is correct. Even if he weren't, he still made a point which you are rather obviously trying to ignore. I might suggest you spend less time on twitter, and probably online in general.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/12/19 08:05 PM
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Just because the concept of the alpha male was incorrectly applied to wolves, doesn't negate the utility of the concept for people What you are seeing is at least a small part wish fulfillment: people would prefer alpha males not to exist, so they try to arrange reality in such a way that this is so. Some do this by getting hung up on particulars that don't actually matter, like going into a history lesson about wolf family groupings. I've noticed a somewhat similar rebuttal to Jordan Peterson's…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/12/19 05:48 PM
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Unfortunately in the realm of psychology controversial studies tend to be less common, for obvious reasons. While having things be reproduced is certainly important, I'd think in this particular case it may be tough to find someone doing so. What you can find, however, is that very few (any?) studies actually contradict it in any serious way. Basically everything I've ever seen confirms the general notion that both men and women prefer women. In addition, as Women are Wonderful is fairly damning…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/12/19 06:13 PM
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Not who you were talking to, but this is not a reasonable thing to ask for in a public forum.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/12/19 01:37 AM
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Arguments to ideological purity are stupid. I suspect it has less to do with purity, and more to do with most people being deathly afraid of accidentally agreeing with someone that they have out-grouped. Or, using such grouping as a "win button." As if it had any bearing whatsoever.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/11/19 07:43 AM
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These kinds of bots are creepy and frankly almost never relevant for anything other than trying not to engage with what someone has said.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/11/19 03:38 AM
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In-group / Out-group biases and The Women are Wonderful Effect https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_are_wonderful_effect I think the scale of this bias is rather important to mention: This research found that while both women and men have more favorable views of women, women's in-group biases were 4.5 times stronger As far as I am aware, there aren't even any studies on racism that show that much bias.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/11/19 07:28 PM
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Well, its not a fair comparison. At least in the descriptive sense. I'm just saying the descriptive component is not as important as the "signal-y" one.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/11/19 02:14 AM
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Oh I hate the misuse. I have multiple comments in my history getting into lots of fights about it if you care enough to look. My point was just that I think they are more apt to use "en vogue" terms rather than descriptive ones, and gaslighting very much qualifies. As such, I suspect we are going to see it a lot more.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/11/19 02:02 AM
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I was being a bit tongue in cheek. The wokie crowd seems to have adopted gaslighting to mean..well, everything. Everything contrary to what they think is an attempt to shake them lose their sanity, apparently. While I do think I've see it far more than "mansplaining" of late, I don't think its actually replaced it. But since the point of the term was less about descriptiveness, and more about in/out grouping I make the prediction that in the future that will be the case. If I'm right, you'll see…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/11/19 01:44 AM
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Disagreeing with someone and defending your own stance is not mansplaining. It’s explaining. Period. I think mansplaining has been replaced with "gaslighting" these days. But I appreciate the point she is making, even while I think she is mostly making it by accident. The admonitions she is giving are essentially just argumentation 101 kind of things. To an extent it shows how far that movement has fallen when she kind of insinuates that these are bombshell-ish observations. I don't really mean …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/11/19 01:10 AM
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Patrice O'Neal has a bit somewhat like this where he goes into not being a "time ho." https://youtu.be/t9QOQNcpuiA
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/10/19 05:45 PM
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Tbh getting fed up with people denouncing articles because they're from Quillette It's low effort rebuttal. Rather than cite a particular error, or make a counter argument, they simply pretend the book is closed over sourcing. It's indicative of someone who shouldn't be in these kinds of conversations in the first place.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/10/19 07:56 PM
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Mildly authoritarian tone aside, none of this will happen for one simple fact: men are thirsty. The dating marketplace favors women to an absurd degree. They can set whatever conditions they like and some man will be out there trying to meet them. A much more achievable (and frankly, less pathetic) method of achieving a similar result would be to educate men that their time and attention have value. Help cultivate behavior that doesn't put up with such lopsided dynamics.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/10/19 05:29 AM
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I would say it isn't money/capitalism, and instead power. Of course, the overlap is quite strong. But I think the thesis statement with the greatest predictive success is that they pursue power over all else.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/10/19 10:52 PM
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I'll just copy what I wrote over on /r/Egalitarian to the same post: Frankly, this sounds like an alt trying to stir the pot as if that group were something to be concerned about. They are idiots. Anyone who bothers to look into them will see as much. I don't think they have anything near the horsepower required to be any kind of threat. The only real power they have is that they'll be associated with their betters very easily, and so are bad PR. That is: the only real concern is how they might …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/10/19 01:55 AM
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I mean I personally don't need every single statement from a politician to have an entire paragraph of qualifying language, but when you see something that is so obviously meant to be a dig, it starts to make you stop giving the benefit of the doubt.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/10/19 09:30 PM
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Until the end where she finishes her joke, "..assuming he can find one" I was mostly just confused. It seemed less sexist and more just odd. Then you realize the earlier thing was a setup so she could say that. Its just so needlessly mean spirited.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/10/19 07:32 PM
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A graveyard of wrongthink. We complain about journalism and "the media" a lot, but the average citizen shares a lot of culpability in this new information economy.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/10/19 07:18 PM
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I'd be curious to know the exact numbers here, but they are behind a paywall. But I can say previous research shows men also favor women, just much less strongly than women favor each other. So it isn't that men aren't biased too, its that just it is less so.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/10/19 06:28 PM
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I know I beat this horse constantly, but I honestly can't stress how much the problems/issues men face are derivative of this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_are_wonderful_effect This research found that while both women and men have more favorable views of women, women's in-group biases were 4.5 times stronger[5] than those of men. And only women (not men) showed cognitive balance among in-group bias, identity, and self-esteem, revealing that men lack a mechanism that bolsters automatic pr…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/10/19 06:26 PM
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Interesting bit about th fence. It's one reason why we have government, to be a slower moving body that filters change. But that doesn't really change social interactions on an individual level. You might be interested in the fictional Bureau of Sabotage I'd much rather have the fence owner inform me of the importance of the fence and let me decide if there should still be a fence rather that allow it's current existence explain it's continued importance or the assumption that everyone will ulti…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/09/19 07:07 AM
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1. I agree, but on the scale of time we are referencing it is a pretty small slice of history. You reference the 1900's but I'd probably go all the way back to the industrial revolution, personally. Either way, not long as counting human history in general, and biology especially. Do men deserve condemnation for those couple hundred years? I'd probably say yes. It was a solvable problem that likely didn't need any further advancement to come to; we just weren't applying our scruples properly. 2 …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/09/19 10:30 PM
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That is to say if patriarchy is the natural conclusion of the world historically speaking what's the academic explaination for ant future civilization to be impossible? We are beyond those natural requirements. I'm a bit muddled on what you mean here, but I'm taking that we are mostly in agreement about principle, if not degree. My overall point was really only two things: Our "initial state" was the patriarchal male dominated society, and (as the lack of competing examples can attest) it could …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/09/19 09:36 PM
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The goal is to change these traditional norms same as men The goal is not necessarily to change them. At least, not simply for their own sake. They aren't "wrong" because they are old. The goal is to allow deviation from them; to allow choice. This must allow for the fact that some people's choice may be "traditional," despite the above. Indeed, if you subscribe to the idea that biology factors in heavily, this is to be expected. But I'd like to see more research about matriarchal societies (eve…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/09/19 08:50 PM
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The reason why it gets wrapped up in sexism is because historically women were required to be co-dependant. Life required them to find a man. It also inhibited them from being financially independent. So it begs the question whether such traits like succorance where emergent from a natural feminine origin or that they were enforced and constructed by society that preffered it. All of this is blaming on historicity (and really, men) what was for the vast majority of human history biological neces…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/09/19 07:01 PM
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However, if one is performing this labor at the expense of pursuing a career, they have a rational expectation that the other person will provide the financial side of things. To an extent. I'd argue the details would be very important. But that is somewhat of a different conversation, as it veers rather quickly into how we handle divorce. By and large though, I agree. That arrangement seems relatively equitable. The important part is the agreement.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/09/19 01:33 AM
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For the last time I'm not bemoaning it as unpaid, I'm saying people are just know coming to terms that other forms of labor which do not receive payment have value. I'm not sure how the first and second parts of that sentence co-exist. I don't think anyone ever considered those things "valueless," simply that that it was unpaid work. Like much work we do. This is leftwingmaleadvocates. If slavish devotion to left wing talking points is a requirement for discourse, there's no justification for th…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/09/19 10:45 PM
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That's like saying employees need to know "Your employer is looking to exploit you." An honest evaluation of the employer/employee relationship does lead you to somewhere near that conclusion. An employer has no reason to employ you unless they feel like they are getting something out of it. Likewise with employee. Dating is similarly governed by a version of this called Briffault's Law: Briffault’s law maintains that “the female, not the male, determines all the conditions of the animal family.…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/09/19 10:19 PM
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The point is that people ought to realize that there's value in labor even when it is unpaid. And labor is not a vacation. I take no issue with any of that. Raising children is labor. But it is further from a job and nearer to "upkeep." Mowing the yard is labor too, yet I wouldn't bemoan it as "unpaid," because there is no reason I should be paid for upkeep on my own decisions. Someone else cutting the grass? Completely different story.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/09/19 10:12 PM
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This is why I support a return to socially enforced monogamy. I'm left wing, but I agree with traditional values over here. I have to disagree here. I don't think that genie is going back in the bottle, and trying to make it so won't do anything but waste time and energy. Instead, and more congruent with what I'd presume are most of the subs values, I would advocate making the arrangement explicit rather than implicit. Men need to know what they are getting in to. Women need to be more honest ab…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/09/19 09:16 PM
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And this isn't a discussion about responsibility. You brought up the concept of unpaid labor, so it 100% is a discussion of responsibility. The implication of the complaint is that someone should be paying them for what they do. If you want that payment to take the form of a tax credit? Ok, but it is no longer unpaid then. The fault of the entire concept is that other people do not have responsibility for your children.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/09/19 09:13 PM
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It benefits no one to argue fulfilment of a willingly entered contract, even a one-sided contract, that even if it is lopsided does provided mutual benefit is abuse. I agree with this, with two sort-of caveats: This post is essentially just using the same victim-y language that is going to get leftist attention. I happen to think the strategy of accepting that frame is a mistake, but I understand why it is made. You could make a pretty good analogue between this and worker's rights. Women, havin…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/09/19 09:01 PM
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Honestly? I don't even particularly mind the objectification part. I mean, its not ideal, but I understand it. Its an impulse that is I think more or less baked into our biology. Its that we kind of just lie about it and pretend it doesn't exist. There are endless reams written on men's objectification of women (plenty of which is true), but men are both simultaneously supposed to fight their biology and completely kowtow to women's. It ends up being one of those many inequalities in the convers…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/09/19 08:55 PM
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Stay at home whatever-gender-you-are is work. It's labor. And historically it's been unpaid labor. Presuming they are your children, there is no reason you should be paid for this at all. It is very strange to expect otherwise. The responsibility of raising a child falls on the parents. However they decide they want to divvy up that duty is up to them, but complaining that this duty should somehow be paid is simply not admissible. I don't get to bill someone when I clean my own damn house.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/09/19 08:45 PM
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Not that impressed by the AMA in general, though I admit to knowing little about the author. I will say though, that your questions seemed to be good ones. Shame she left some unanswered. I think this exchange is my biggest gripe though: Considering you appear to be telling men that becoming more like me should make them happier and healthier, I'm left more than a little surprised and confused, considering I still mostly feel like shit. When women say they don't believe in these idealized versio…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/09/19 10:43 PM
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I don't think feminism missed any issues. I actually think they're scraping the bottom of the barrel searching for issues. Talking about stuff like the "orgasm gap" and wringing their hands over pockets. We're basically post-patriarchy at this point, so feminism is making stuff up to be mad about and it's infuriating. Interestingly enough, the founder of Mothers Against Drunk Driving was essentially drummed out of her own organization for having similar views. She felt like they had basically ac…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/09/19 07:02 AM
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Good mod. At the end of the day, it is very difficult to talk about gender issues without both genders being in the conversation. Banning this kind of conversation would be counterproductive.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/09/19 06:56 AM
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I'm not really disagreeing with the fact that "connection" is important, simply that it isn't the only thing involved, and is probably subservient to other qualities in the long term. Very few "connections" survive the girlfriend gaining 100 pounds or the boyfriend refusing to work. In context of actionable advice for men to succeed with women, "go to the gym, eat clean" is going to get the vast majority of men nearer their goal than almost anything else. You'll be amazed how many women "connect…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/09/19 09:27 PM
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Most women I know would PREFER to be single than with a man they do not connect with I think the word connection is used flippantly by these women; its simply a catch all term for me who they are unwilling/unable to date. But yes, I agree: they will generally prefer being "single" than date what they see as "down." Probably more accurately: they will maintain a series of "mini-relationships" that fulfill her needs in various ways. But pornography is fake connection. Intimmate friendship is true …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/09/19 09:19 PM
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I think /u/melthengylf is about half right here. But I think he is missing some fairly important nuances. The "connection" he is mentioning does in fact rate in the grand scheme, but some of the why's are missing. Male sexual desire is relatively narrow in the "coin" it is willing to accept: the vast majority is constituted by physical attractiveness. By contrast, women's is far more variable: physical attractiveness matters (a LOT) but there are multiple other avenues by which a woman's desire …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/09/19 07:09 PM
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But this is the issue: men are not fighting against other men. They are fightinh against the happiness a woman would have by being alone. Point of nuance: you are fighting against her perception of the men she thinks she could get. For multiple reasons, this hypothetical man is often unrealistic; I've known multiple women who will be "single" for very long stretches of time because she has set her own relative market value too high in expectation of this man. Why? Because many men are needy beca…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/09/19 06:47 PM
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Giving people greater freedom to choose is always a good thing, but I'm a tad bit skeptical that some totally equal distribution will result from it. This is one of the grand weaknesses of the left's take on gender politics: it has this baked in assumption that anything less than a perfect distribution is somehow unequal, and also that such a distribution is desirable to begin with. Its not happening. The OP is, sorry to say, way off the mark. Same with that post the other day about how do we ge…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/09/19 04:32 AM
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I think the simplest explanation to the author's basic premise is that women, while generally encountering very little encouragement to be violent, also encounter very little corrective action when they are, and are rarely in a situation where men won't immediately attempt to In a sense, I wonder that encouragement of boys roughhousing etc might be a cultural artifact from this; they are encouraged to do so that they may learn the visceral consequences of violence before they become too dire. Wo…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/09/19 12:44 AM
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I just..don't understand what you are trying to convey. It seems to be some level of "hierarchy bad!" without any accompanying thought. Which is fine, I guess. But you brought it up like you had some kind of thought process. I thought you might have something novel to say.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/09/19 09:30 PM
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Ok, maybe it would be more productive to ask you what you think isn't a hierarchy. Outside of some sort of sci-fi hivemind or multivac driven society, it is difficult to imagine what world it is you think we should be creating.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/09/19 09:24 PM
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Why don't you go ahead and describe what it is you think hierarchies are and how they work. Because I feel like you might be under some misconceptions.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/09/19 09:18 PM
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Hierarchies are by consensus almost by definition. OP's link is talking about that very thing. You didn't actually answer the question.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/09/19 09:11 PM
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I completely agree with this. However, its going to be difficult escaping it entirely, because the reality of the situation is inflammatory. A certain amount of outrage is rational and probably even healthy. But yes, you are correct. We need to be measured in how we much we allow that. At the end of the day, the goal is to mend those fences, not build them higher.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/09/19 06:04 PM
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You are both right, more or less. The promised revolution has been being promised for some time now. But, it is also true that it will come, eventually. Its not a matter of if, but when. When that happens, and I agree with you on sooner rather than later, all the things you mention will come to the forefront. But I can't hardly blame people when they are hearing the same song for the 100th time having a bit of skepticism.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/09/19 05:46 PM
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It is demonstrably true that sex work in many countries including the US and the UK is dangerous. I don't really disagree with this sentiment, but I'm curious to know if you are basing this on some kind of data? I have no trouble believing it to be dangerous, but I'd be interested to know if it is "dangerous" because of its actual data or dangerous because its simply the most dangerous thing women do. I'm not sure it would rate among fishing, firefighting, and the like.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/09/19 05:42 PM
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Its slavery in the sense that we are enslaved to caring about our children, or valuing the lives of our friends over those of strangers. What does this society even look like to you? How do people organize and function? It sounds like you are rejecting the idea emotionally rather than rationally.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/09/19 07:28 AM
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What society is it that you think exists that doesn't have some sort of hierarchy? It isn't "propaganda" to notice this, nor does it offend any rational definition of freedom.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/09/19 07:22 AM
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Not going to happen. Nor should we even want it to. The only serious issue with hierarchies is when we are using poor metrics to see how they shake out. Hierarchies themselves, aside from being here to stay, are not intrinsically bad.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/09/19 12:28 AM
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Why would people in the behavioral sciences have more of a will to power than anyone else? How does school create an artificial barrier to it? I couldn't say. I could make guesses but I'd presume that's something of a deeper delve into human nature than we are trying to do here. So why do institutions of higher education exist? For skill/knowledge transfer. Everything else is window dressing. Certainly not as a means to inculcate political opinions. Also, men are over-represented among STEM grad…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/08/19 09:35 PM
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Also, a degree of any kind is often taken as evidence that you have the general intelligence required to do middle class jobs. It is simply replacing the high school diploma; necessary for consideration, but few people think you are particularly bright for having it. I know plenty of half brain dead people who were able to party their way through a liberal arts degree. Hell, education majors GPAs tend to go UP in college; its literally easier than high school.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/08/19 06:50 PM
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The social and behavioral sciences along with the humanities directly feed into our politics and therefore, into our institutions. So they have value to anyone who cares about current politics Those aren't sciences. But you are essentially correct: they do feed into our institutions. But I'd argue this has far more to do with a sort of "will to power" than any special faculty for those roles. The school/background has fairly little to do with it, and in fact may actually create an artificial bar…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/08/19 06:46 PM
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I wouldn't say it is an intrinsic problem that women are earning more degrees than men. I'd say the greater issue is degree bloat; that the majority of these degree fields are of marginal real use. If you take out the "fluff" and focus on STEM the gap swaps the other way around.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/08/19 06:12 AM
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Haven't seen that specific segment, but I'm not terribly surprised. If you pick a subject you know something about, and then look at the "commonly accepted narrative" the media will portray, you'll almost always find problems. At the very least there are nuances missed, and more often it outright veers into willful misrepresentation. John Oliver is particularly bad about this, but you'll find some level of this everywhere. I personally find it quite disheartening because it makes it very, very h…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/08/19 05:49 PM
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As in, people are more sympathetic to them. They generate more sympathy than men, not that they possess more.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/08/19 04:14 PM
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but my point is that the fallacies themselves don't have to be "namedropped" everytime. Its the difference between having actual command of argument and simply knowing it as some kind of shamanistic ritual, complete with solemn intonation of magic phrases. Reddit is bad about this, because those phrases will proliferate among the population while the meaning is not. False equivalence, gaslighting, concern trolling, whataboutism, the list goes on and on. As a sort of canary, these fallacies are g…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/08/19 03:37 PM
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It was frustrating to live
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/08/19 10:09 PM
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Feminists utterly fail to acknowledge the immense contribution men have made to civilization through their brute labor, endurance, and life sacrifice. I've had conversations like this previously on reddit. it is men's fault though. Literally 90% of men's rights issues are due to men. While this is technically true, it isn't really being genuine.Using that logic you could, in the exact same breath, mention that every single freedom and luxury enjoyed by women is also because of men. Its also wort…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/08/19 05:34 PM
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This is consistent with contemporary progressive discourse which often boils down to: "men have a unique responsibility to stop other men's shitty behavior, because women are relatively powerless to deal with it." I see two central problems with this as being the current discourse: Lets just blow through the argument of why any individual is responsible for the actions of another and pretend its somehow true. If you are going to assign additional responsibilities to men as a class, additional "p…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/08/19 05:29 PM
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You might be interested in this essay which explores the motte and bailey dynamic of feminism at some length.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/08/19 04:16 PM
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I mean, you've gotta start somewhere. But I'd hardly consider that a sea change. This particular event was one of the most blatant over the top awful things to do, and it was done publicly; there's no real backing down from it. She also has already had a litany of such complaints already against her. I mean lets look at the top 3 comments: Fuck her. From "I Kissed A Girl" to "Ur So Gay" to cornrows to geisha costumes to not paying drag performers, she's a piece of shit and this behavior doesn't …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/08/19 07:40 PM
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Equal justice treatment under the law. Justice implies outcome, treatment implies process.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/08/19 04:07 PM
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I'd presume that is because this particular sub is self selecting for people that can see at least one angle of identity politics running amuck. Which is incidentally more thought than about 90% of the population ever puts into their political positions.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/08/19 04:01 PM
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I'd call it less orthodoxy and more rhetoric. It isn't a position in the intellectual sense, it is a technique to get those who "don't get it" to stop talking.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/08/19 03:53 PM
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Points aside I have to say the guy is really tough to listen to. I'll have to watch it on mute.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/08/19 03:07 AM
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I don't have special knowledge to your question, but if I had to make a guess, I'd say its social media. It changed more than a few landscapes in more than a few ways, and politics, particularly social politics, were no exception. This allowed for groups to coalesce around ideas more readily, and in the case of the modern social justice movement, there were already a few greatly potent ideas just waiting to be used. Specifically concepts like racism, sexism, misogyny, and the like. Through the a…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/08/19 03:49 PM
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I don't necessarily disagree. I just have general reluctance to use strong language that paints women in a poor light; I think it engages the fight response in a populace that, as per above, is strongly in favor of women as is. But by all means, give it a whirl. See if it works the first time or two and if results bear out maybe we can play a bit rougher in that conversation than I suspect. Its certainly is a more direct route.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/08/19 12:33 AM
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Perhaps. But my overall point is that I'm not sure that it matters, because they don't likely care. When it became convenient to do so, racism was simply redefined so that white men were not able to be victims of it. I would not be the least bit surprised if the same happened with sexism (or has already happened).
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/08/19 11:30 PM
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The main thing that surprises me isn't that it doesn't work, but that it so obviously doesn't work and yet men still keep trying it. It's betraying a misunderstanding of the lay of the land. It's presuming a fairness that doesn't exist and never has.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/08/19 08:01 PM
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Oh absolutely. Same as no one would tolerate an "all white-male" cabinet in the states. Hypocrisy abounds. I was just making the delineation that there is a difference between what they are doing and actually locking men out of political power, at least in the short term.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/08/19 12:38 PM
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There's one in here that I think is one of the pillars of what we are up against in male advocacy: "Four experiments confirmed that women's automatic in-group bias is remarkably stronger than men's and investigated explanations for this sex difference, derived from potential sources of implicit attitudes (L. A. Rudman, 2004). In Experiment 1, only women (not men) showed cognitive balance among in-group bias, identity, and self-esteem (A. G. Greenwald et al., 2002), revealing that men lack a mech…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/08/19 12:35 PM
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British Green Party leader Carolina Lucas is advocating that a bunch of women from across the British political spectrum come together to form an all-female cabinet and cut male politicians out of the government. I'm not familiar with British law, but isn't this a rather informal thing? These self organized cabinets aren't much different than clubs, wielding no official political power? In that sense it isn't much different than the Black Caucus the US has. Much of the same criticism applies, of…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/08/19 12:21 PM
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Because women are more sympathetic than men, and in a way that we cant simply coopt. It's similar to how a child occupied a different social space than an adult. Treating it as symmetrical doesn't work.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/08/19 09:59 AM
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It suspect that it would be largely counter-productive. Most people are not ready to hear nakedly negative things said about women in general. It is something that probably feels good on a personal level but isn't earning any friends on a movement level.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/08/19 10:02 PM
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I think this is a worthwhile thing to talk about, but mostly in the sense of "be aware of this." It isn't like any amount of advocacy will fix this in the short term; women can set whatever preferences they like, even if they are unreasonable. We won't logic them out of their position, and we certainly can't shame them out of it. Even trying is likely to be a good way to lose ground. Its hard to do, but as much as we can manage I think we should try not to invoke "defense mechanisms" towards wom…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/08/19 10:01 AM
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On a side note, I don't like the name "Moscow Mitch" - not out of any liking for the Republicans, but because I don't buy into the narrative that Russia is "hacking elections." Even if it were true, its a schoolyard level insult on par with calling Obama "Obummer." Its childish and should be beneath anyone with a brain.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/08/19 09:18 PM
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What I don't want to see: Just right now on the front page there are posts that seem to be little more than takedowns of characters the OP doesn't like. The first is a radfem that is only being brought up in an interest to poison publications the OP doesn't approve of, and the second and third being brought up I guess to remind people that they aren't passing the purity test the OP has decided everyone needs to be abiding by. Its devoid of any meaningful critique. They weren't in the news, they …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/08/19 09:10 PM
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Long Post. Here are his personal words about that exact quotation: This paragraph appears after a long discussion of the role that belief plays in governing human behavior, and it should be read in that context. Some critics have interpreted the second sentence of this passage to mean that I advocate simply killing religious people for their beliefs. Granted, I made the job of misinterpreting me easier than it might have been, but such a reading remains a frank distortion of my views. To someone…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/08/19 06:32 PM
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But in his book he came very close to saying the United States is justified in killing Muslims for their religious beliefs. Ok, can you cite that online somehow? Or a time he said similar? I strongly suspect his position is nuanced in such a way that his words will matter. And the more I've thought about it over the years, the more I notice Harris seems to subtly push a war agenda Same question. I know for a fact he has come out against the war in Iraq, at the least. So we'll need citations for …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/08/19 03:46 PM
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I am in a different time zone from most people on the English-speaking internet, so I'm not always able to respond to these situations as quickly as I would like Have you considered adding moderators that are in these timezones? This problem is only like to get worse over time, rather than better. A sub this new cannot long suffer the conversation "quality" that seems to be infecting every thread at the moment.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/08/19 09:44 AM
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Do you understand what gaslighting actually is? Do you understand any of the terms you throw around?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/08/19 09:41 AM
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Hey /u/serpentineeyelash can we just ban these guys already? Every single one is from that same dumb sub and all have accounts made very recently. I don't know /u/mewacketergi other than from the thread from earlier today but he seems fine. At the very least, he's better people than the OP and everyone in this thread. You need to decide what kind of sub you are trying to run. If you don't actively do something these guys are going to set the tone for the future, and I'll have no part of it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/08/19 03:39 AM
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He deserves the chance to explain/correct himself. Well, "deserves." He wouldn't grant the same to others, but in the rules I play by, he gets it regardless. I suspect he wouldn't see any irony in that, sadly.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/08/19 03:28 AM
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That's what I was referencing. I think every single reply I've seen is from someone from that sub. But, if there's no moderation or community pushback to it, those people will set the tone for this sub as well and I personally will have no part of it. I don't have the time or willingness to teach the abc's of how inquiry works to a bunch of toddlers.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/08/19 03:23 AM
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In the holistic view of a "movement" for men, these people are not just unproductive, they are actively damaging. I can't muster it in my heart to find a lot of forgiveness. If need be then I'll advocate for what feminists are so often unwilling to do: to condemn and cast out the toxic parts of a movement. We don't want or need their help. In fact the best thing they could do for the cause is to never engage in conversation about it again.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/08/19 03:13 AM
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You don't even have to know anything about his podcasts, or him as a person. Just the quotes given are enough to let you know that there's a nuance to his positions that is almost certainly being left out of the conversation in this thread. You don't need to give Sam Harris any special coddling; all you need to do is approach the subject with intellectual honesty.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/08/19 03:07 AM
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I think you are missing the main thrust of what I was saying: these quotes are just blurbs. Criticism of them is shallow at best, and likely irrelevant. Choose an idea that he has unpacked and attack that, with citations. There are plenty floating around on the internet in one form or another; its basically his job. I'm not saying he's infallible. Hell, maybe he actually is misandrist. But the argument being constructed in this thread for that case is dogshit stupid; if you want to make a case f…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/08/19 03:05 AM
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Harris is wrong and does not correct his reasoning Ok, lets hear how so. Cite where he made fleshed out an argument you disagree with, and rebut it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/08/19 03:00 AM
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Jesus Christ what is it with you guys? Appeal to accreditation is not a thing. Appeal to authority relies on sole force of authority to substantiate a claim, which did not happen. Honestly I'm not sure why your whole other sub insists on using all the same (wrong) arguments. Do any of you actually understand what a fallacy is? I'm starting to think it's a bunch of alts and one guy. The uniformity of the stupidity is becoming impressive.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/08/19 10:53 PM
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I'm less defending Sam Harris, and more defending the integrity of inquiry as a principle. To that end: Accusing someone of projecting is stupid. And my reasons for defending Sam Harris can be anything I wish; what matters is the defense itself.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/08/19 07:54 PM
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...no, it isn't. I'm saying that he has a large body of work that you can pull any number of positions from and have at them if you think he is wrong about something. How is that related to popularity in any way?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/08/19 07:51 PM
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Again, learn to format your posts please. If anyone is being dishonest it is you. If you think having a PHD in a hard science makes one an expert in things like philosophy and politics, you are clueless. I did not say he was an expert in those things; I said he was objectively intelligent. Which is true.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/08/19 07:48 PM
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Please learn to use formatting if you are going to quote someone. Its a total mess to try to parse that. So what? He is still a complete moron on male issues and circumcision. Also he is a moral imbecile on international politics and is a war mongering neo con. Ok, why don't you unpack that for us. Cite where he made the arguments you are disagreeing with, and then rebut them. Name calling and out-group associations are not substitutes for a real critique.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/08/19 07:45 PM
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Looking at /u/72incelsinparadise's account, it's only two days old and it is pretty much full tilt toxic and intellectual dishonesty. I don't know if this is aligning with what you want the sub to be /u/serpentineeyelash, but I'd suggest just banning him outright if not. And if so, please let everyone know so that the sane can leave and let the rest of you have at it. For my part I'll just block the idiot but you'll need to curate this space a bit if you don't want it to turn into a joke.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/08/19 07:19 PM
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Do you often make sweeping generalizations with n groups of 1?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/08/19 07:08 PM
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Wider, yes. That can mean all sorts of things. But generally speaking, being smarter is better, as a category. The trope of the hyper specialized imbecile is very much the exception. And in Sam Harris' case, there's no need to speculate: he has practically made a career out of discussing his ideas. You can delve in and challenge whatever you think is lacking.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/08/19 06:58 PM
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Don't confuse the liberal arts diploma mill with PhD level science.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/08/19 06:50 PM
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I meant more in line with a comprehensive position rather than a context-less sentence pulled with the aim of making him seem misogynist. He's given innumerable interviews, podcasts etc, surely one of them contains something more worthy of critique. But to speak to your two points: Considering force equilibria as an argument against strong gun law makes sense. And considering the relative advantage one half of the population has over the other, it makes even more sense. Without knowing more spec…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/08/19 06:42 PM
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That would be the exception, rather than the rule. An appeal to nebulous possibility as a way to damn his credibility is dishonest and weak.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/08/19 06:14 PM
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Please don't be a gender-swapped radical feminist with a (hopefully uncut) dick, -- it's not a good way to productively advocate for men in the 21st century. This sub is 10 minutes old and its already starting to suffer from this nonsense. A whole post slandering Sam Harris with quotes that, even when taken out of context, are hardly worth real indictment. Why even go to the trouble?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/08/19 05:37 PM
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This is just outgroup association: in what ways specifically is he these things you say?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/08/19 05:29 PM
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I can't speak for his sub, but Sam Harris is objectively very intelligent. Edit: So I'm apparently getting downvoted for saying a guy with a PhD in cognitive neuroscience is intelligent. If this is the measure of this sub's intellectual honesty its already dead.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/08/19 05:28 PM
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The article he is rebutting is Louise Perry's "Time to Stop Using Suicide For Political Point-Scoring". Its roughly of the quality you'd probably guess.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/08/19 02:30 PM
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Fundamentally, there's no avoiding this kind of thing when you are buying in so hard to identity politics. You don't have to go very far down that road before you are essentially back at tribalism. For now, it seems less harmful because everyone is "united" against the common foe of the evil white male, but this is the same kind of thinking that leads to the worst of human nature. Egalitarianism, ostensibly, is supposed to be a rejection of those things. This is why modern feminism seems so hypo…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/07/19 08:01 PM
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The assumption that postmodernism is inherently feminist, when postmodernism’s nuanced understanding of power could instead be used to criticize feminism I hate to borrow a phrase that I think gets thrown around far too much on reddit, but one of my central problems with feminists has been that they seem to often engage in "bad faith." Either that or they have poor understanding of their own positions. It feels like a never ending stream of either motte and bailey or of defining words in such a …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/07/19 10:52 AM
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Seeing how little most MRAs were interested in addressing this made me realize that the men's rights movement in general isn't really interested in defending against discrimination from all sources. They're not just interested in using men's rights as a cudgel to fight feminism. I see where you are coming from, but I'd like to nuance it a bit with the fact that that kind of male bullying is not really sanctioned socially in the way that feminist "bullying" is. Calling someone a cuck is really no…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/07/19 10:41 AM
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I'm no expert on her, but Karen Straughan seems to do a pretty good job of advocating for men. You may check her out.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/07/19 10:29 AM
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I'm somewhat at "that age" where I know a lot of people who have gotten married recently. I'd honestly say that, at least outwardly, there didn't seem to be any ring craziness. You might be able to chalk that up to my friends simply choosing better than the average, but it would seem that expensive rings as a symbol are diminishing.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/07/19 10:25 AM
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yes, in one way, it's the female invading the male space for attention I agree, but if this post is anything to go by, she seems to have earned her way in. She doesn't seem to have been pandering, and did her due diligence as a legitimate film maker. Presuming her ending her ties with feminism we could even say she fulfilled her human responsibility of being open to having her mind changed. I wouldn't blame anyone for being wary at first but she seems to deserve at least tacit respect.
/r/TheRedPill03/12/16 06:45 PM
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I just can't believe the red pill mods would have endorsed someone whose 99% of comments are off-topic He really damages the brand in my opinion. No EC can be expected to spit fire every time, but I don't know of him ever having done it once. And it's hard to miss since he formats his posts like a fucking advertisement.
/r/TheRedPill03/12/16 06:41 PM
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You know, we talk a lot about how unhappy men are here at TRP, but for some reason when people actively try and do something to change the status quo, a percentage of our member base just shits all over them for speaking up. It's kind of ironic. "Enjoy the decline" Maybe my single biggest issue with the sub. This is a smash and grab "get yours" mentality that is frankly better suited for 18 year old girls than men.
/r/TheRedPill03/12/16 06:39 PM
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I understand the sentiment of why flair like that exists, and don't even entirely disagree. But it runs somewhat contrary to the idea that ideas/commentary should be standing on their own merit.
/r/TheRedPill13/11/16 02:29 AM
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Your comments and posts should be able to stand on the merit of your ideas alone. Then why have endorsed contributer and other flair?
/r/TheRedPill13/11/16 01:41 AM
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Seriously, it is full on retarded.
/r/TheRedPill09/11/16 03:34 PM
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Wait..people request to be ECs? I guess I might be out of the loop on how it works. I thought it was just decided amongst the mods to award it?
/r/TheRedPill01/11/16 02:49 PM
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Not 100% this is the most ideal forum for the post, but title is A++
/r/TheRedPill17/10/16 05:44 PM
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Just a heads up to anyone looking for aforementioned thread, the red pill portion has been removed. I was following it fairly closely, and didn't see anything that would justify nuking it. I guess the mods just decided they didn't want mention of TRP to exist at all.
/r/TheRedPill17/10/16 05:39 PM
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I'm aware that it is assigned. I was referring more to the criteria I guess. Largely I would say the ECs are assigned well enough, but there are a few that have made me wonder how they snuck into the lot. Obviously you can assign it to whoever you like for whatever reason, but it "damages the brand" so to speak, and I get the sense that is something you mean to protect.
/r/TheRedPill07/10/16 03:17 PM
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ALL new posts shall be very high in terms of quality. I wish this were true. I honestly am curious what the vetting process is for someone to get that flair.
/r/TheRedPill07/10/16 02:59 PM
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Has the sub's stance on this changed or something? I think anymore talking about fucking crazy/married chicks gets labeled as concern trolling. Which I don't really get either. Abundance mentality, right?
/r/TheRedPill09/09/16 02:19 PM
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I honestly want to see the post that made a mod decide to award him that.
/r/TheRedPill07/09/16 08:43 PM
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It is basically an argument from authority error. Argument from data is generally better, but the nebulous topics women like to discuss tend to be soft on data.
/r/TheRedPill06/09/16 04:58 PM
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I really don't. I subbed there hoping to find some because I am interested in the subject, but am let down by most of the content there.
/r/TheRedPill05/09/16 06:42 PM
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Artists, entrepreneurs, professionals, writers, leaders in business and society, all of them have one thing in common – they produce. More a quibble with this part in particular rather than the post: many of these people do no such production. Artists and writers, by their nature must of course. But go to the entrapaneur subreddit and it is nonstop discussions about affiliate marketing, cross shipping , and talk of Chinese manufacturing suppliers. Professionals is broad, but lawyers almost by de…
/r/TheRedPill05/09/16 02:19 PM
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I have a sneaking suspicion that women are actually horrible at evaluating SMV. They greatly rely on collective hive mind judgements about men (and most things). What their parents think about him, what her friends think about them, how many tropes in the shows she watches does he represent? I think this might be part of the reason the most attractive man that actively pursues her is the new bar as "equal:" she really has no serious idea how to evaluate a man until he tells her. I think a large …
/r/TheRedPill05/09/16 02:02 PM
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The church's failing to root this out and punish appropriately is the operative issue. Not the demographics of who did the diddling. Which was my point. Moving it from a church problem to a gay problem just fogs the issue. It isn't the church's fault these things happened in the first place, but it becomes their fault when they do nothing about it.
/r/TheRedPill31/08/16 03:32 PM
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I see several reasons cited for a rejection of religion in this thread; government-church analogies, the relative "beta" nature of the congregations, or just some of the offenses committed under the color of God, like paedophilia. How about the simplest one: that it just doesn't make sense. It surprises me a subreddit with a strong subtext of accepting uncomfortable truth would actually need much coaxing to reject one of the most shackling and unsubstantiated claims of human history, simply beca…
/r/TheRedPill31/08/16 02:57 PM
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Very few were actually pedophiles. The overwhelming majority were gay men in the priesthood who acted on attraction to male teens. This sounds a lot more like hamstering blame from a group you prefer to one you do not.
/r/TheRedPill31/08/16 02:51 PM
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No, I'm saying that I'm not aware of any medical literature backing up the claim that down regulated test levels are permanent.
/r/TheRedPill01/08/16 01:49 PM
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I don't know about Tren, but Testosterone has a decent amount medical literature on it. It's usually out of the context of using it purely for enhancement, but I don't ever remember reading any reports that it permanently downgraded production.
/r/TheRedPill01/08/16 01:36 PM
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People think that you can 'cycle' and 'pct' and you'll come back to normal.. It doesn't work like that. Do you have a source for this? I haven't come across anything else saying that before.
/r/TheRedPill01/08/16 12:47 PM
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To an extent I understand that; /r/science guidelines are more strict than most and for good reason. But I have a hard time believing that comment graveyard was entirely due to not being scientific enough.
/r/TheRedPill29/07/16 01:25 PM
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Its top of the front page right now. Watching all those people try as hard as they can to find a reason other than the obvious is sad.
/r/TheRedPill29/07/16 12:48 AM
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Girls don't know what the fuck they want and my friends certainly didn't rape them. Until they did. I'm not saying that it couldn't work, I'm just saying it is bad policy. Plus, not even necessary. I've never had to deal with a moment like that myself. Even if I did, abundance mentality: there are so many other girls in the world, why risk that she does "mean it?"
/r/TheRedPill01/07/16 02:56 PM
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Girls will keep saying "no" verbally, but they're just waiting for you to escalate. This is dumb advice. If a girl actually says no, just get out of there. There is far too much risk, and lots more fish in the sea. That being said, sometimes girls will show verbal trepidation, and to a limited degree it is OK to push through this. But an actual "No" is done. Treating it as anything else is just amateur hour.
/r/TheRedPill01/07/16 01:37 PM
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Seriously. Its called abundance mentality.
/r/TheRedPill23/06/16 03:12 AM
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These field reports always sound so fucking made up. I bet they are, at least partially. It's a holdover from RP's PUA antecedents, where everyone just kind of informally agreed not to challenge each other's stories. You can always fucking tell when someone is telling a story and they came from or delved into pickup. It sounds like a piece of shit movie scene written by someone to pass neckbeard scrutiny for "coolness." No one I have ever known who is good with women talks like that. Maybe I hav…
/r/TheRedPill23/06/16 03:09 AM
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Be careful with using meditation if you are currently suffering from depression and/or anxiety If you are meditating and it is enhancing your rumination I have to say you are doing it wrong. Meditation isn't contemplative thought (though, there are similarities). Mindfulness meditation has very good data in its favor when practiced properly for breaking up the rumination cycle you mention.
/r/TheRedPill20/06/16 02:03 PM
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Meditation is being in control of your thoughts. Without going on a rant or being pedantic, I will just say this is a very common error in what meditation is. Creating an adversarial relationship with yourself where you are trying to subjugate parts of you is counterproductive. You can't control your thoughts, but you do get a hand in shaping them. Becoming comfortable in that headspace is one of the central goals and benefits of meditating.
/r/TheRedPill20/06/16 01:59 PM
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I couldn't speak for CS but I would agree with Law school for the most part. Law school requires more of a commitment though, so I would say that at least sets it apart. Practically anyone who is willing to drop 7 years and a bunch of student loan debt can be an attorney.
/r/TheRedPill21/05/16 03:56 PM
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The job it sounds like you are talking about is CNA; certified nursing assistant. They get 10 bucks an hour to empty bed pans and do scut work so the RNs can get on with bigger things.
/r/TheRedPill21/05/16 02:50 PM
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Nursing schools and a Nursing degree are so hard they are up there with computer science and law school in how hard the curriculum is. Unless you are referencing some kind particular premium tier nursing school I don't know about, this is not the case at all. I would actually say nursing(RN) is the perfect "medium" degree: it isn't some blow off like business, but it isn't engineering either. The average person is capable of getting through it with a reasonable level of effort.
/r/TheRedPill21/05/16 02:48 PM
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I have never heard of Kevin Spacey before this show. Then you are a cinema moron.
/r/MensRights21/05/16 02:23 AM
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This is easier to explain: pull your arms back (and little down) like you would want to hold a pencil between your traps. If this isn't resonating for some people, I have heard a similar cue: mildly retract and depress your scapula like you are trying to tuck them into your back pockets. While good old shrugs won't help you much you can start doing pull-ups and - if you have the equipment - face pulls. Seconded. Shrugs are greatly overvalued in my estimation, I suspect because it is so easy to u…
/r/TheRedPill19/05/16 03:45 PM
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I'm not 100% clear on it either. Either the post needs some clarification or I'm missing something. The part I quoted I think was referencing it more in the social light than the political.
/r/TheRedPill18/05/16 03:09 PM
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If you don't enter with the idea of masculine polarity as an ideal to strive for from the very beginning then you would be lost from the start. I would maybe take it even farther than that: the ideal must already be achieved. Striving implies periods of failure and we all know how women get when there's blood in the water.
/r/TheRedPill18/05/16 02:15 PM
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When we examine Western history after 1950 the primary trend has been increasing Pacification with it's suppression of masculine polarity. Ignoring all the other non sequiturs, there are plenty of places with no "pacification" in place post 1950: we tend to call them war zones.
/r/TheRedPill18/05/16 02:06 PM
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I know what it means. You apparently do not.
/r/TheRedPill17/05/16 11:28 AM
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I wish this sub had a minimum age requirement.
/r/TheRedPill17/05/16 11:23 AM
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None of this had anything to do with what I asked. RIP reading comprehension.
/r/TheRedPill17/05/16 11:18 AM
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I asked why you drop buzzwords independent of their meaning. Your post isnt interesting to me. That's why I didn't ask anything about it. Stop trying to change the subject.
/r/TheRedPill17/05/16 11:11 AM
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Do you ever wake up in the morning and think "holy shit I'm a cuck"? Feel free to post your own cucked analysis though. Want to explain exactly what you mean here? I'm being serious. Slathering your language in nonsense buzzwords is what teenagers trying to fit in do.
/r/TheRedPill17/05/16 11:00 AM
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As far as online community, PUAs predate TRP by a huge margin. The communities are cousins, if not (estranged) brothers.
/r/TheRedPill05/05/16 11:53 AM
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Well, I would probably expand that list, personally. But I suppose that's just the market working itself out. I don't blame anyone for trying to make money where they can. It just kind of feels like the vibe moves from locker room to sales floor, and I think that is a shame.
/r/TheRedPill03/05/16 02:16 PM
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I wouldn't say that is categorically wrong. But I think the number of posters here who truly deserve compensation for the content they produce is pretty low.
/r/TheRedPill03/05/16 02:07 PM
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Seems like a lot of posts are taking on a self aggrandizing tone. Not unlike the pickup community, people are looking for a long term monetization angle I think. Establish a "personality" etc. Cash in with a blog or what have you. In some cases I think there's merit to that. But certainly not all.
/r/TheRedPill03/05/16 01:29 PM
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I would take your post a step farther. Science and technology are responsible for almost the entirety of civilization. Everything else is downstream from that. For example: Western Europe started to emerge from the dark ages, when governments started to use people’s own self interests to motivate them. The 14th century did not see the invention of greed. It did, however, see the invention of the printing press. Of course, organizing efficiently certainly is a great help in society, both in quali…
/r/TheRedPill29/04/16 09:03 AM
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There's enough real life examples that we don't need to contrive any. I don't understand why people do this.
/r/TheRedPill20/04/16 11:15 PM
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Might be the area I live in Its this. I'm from an area kind of like that, and moved to a much bigger city. Without changing anything (in fact I'm in worse shape now) my numbers have skyrocketed.
/r/TheRedPill19/04/16 01:11 PM
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Seconded. I almost exclusively get my clothes from thrift stores at this point. No lie. But I have a clue what I'm doing. For some that don't have the time/inclination, they need to just walk in somewhere and buy what's on the mannequins. It of course always depends on where you are, but I regularly get $100+ pants and shoes for 5-10 dollars. Plus I like the ecological benefit of it all.
/r/TheRedPill19/04/16 01:09 PM
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Disagree on fits. It is probably the best thing about them. They are for a fairly specific (lean) body type though.
/r/TheRedPill19/04/16 01:04 PM
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I'm not sure if it is around anymore, but there was a big national scholarship available to juniors and seniors who read Atlas and Fountainhead and wrote an essay on it. As I remember it had pitifully few entries. You might be able to turn it into free money.
/r/TheRedPill19/04/16 01:02 PM
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Honestly, just applying standard evolutionary biology clears the field in this scenario. Is our evolutionary antecedent to be in cloistered air conditioned buildings? Or to be roaming the wilderness and working the land? Anytime health research is presented that goes against the evolutionary grain, skepticism is very warranted. Also, well done on your sourcing OP. Would love to see more of that around here.
/r/TheRedPill19/04/16 12:51 PM
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There's a lot of good advice here (and in the sidebar) but there's one thing I never see mentioned here specifically. Teeth. Take care of your damn teeth. I won't go into details, but due to my life/school I have known scores of people who did not, and I think everyone underestimates the enormous effect on your quality of life. Both dating and just health. Do you need braces? Be honest. It's expensive, but very worth it if you need them. Do you brush every day? At the least, every morning and ni…
/r/TheRedPill19/04/16 12:43 PM
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Your internal world is fucked up. My suggestion would be to start engaging in mindfulness exercises immediately, and to look into cognitive behavioral therapy. Technically, this therapy could be done unguided, but I would suggest having an actual therapist; your mind has become a misaligned hall of mirrors, and it will probably need external help to right itself. You aren't retarded, or broken, and most of the people you see every day are living lives of quiet desperation only a few degrees remo…
/r/TheRedPill19/04/16 12:33 PM
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It may be out of the scope of this post, but Viagra isn't terribly difficult to get, and will blow all of these things completely out of the water. To boot, it also has actual science on its efficacy. It isn't cheap, but neither is taking a regimen of a dozen different pills. I would also suggest anyone with these problems (or just everyone really) go get their testosterone levels checked. Therapy is pretty cheap and make most of these kinds of issues moot. Plus testosterone just makes you aweso…
/r/TheRedPill18/04/16 06:28 PM
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I considered it, but honestly in the past the sub hasn't been real crazy about it. I mean I'm sure some would appreciate it but those comments usually run into the negatives for me. If it were a stronger claim or the subject was nearer to my heart, then perhaps.
/r/TheRedPill18/04/16 01:50 PM
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If there is any one thing I wish this sub had more of it would be hard data. Sometimes science isn't easy to bring in to a particular topic, but in those cases we shouldn't claim its legitimacy just because we think it to be true. That's hamster shit. And in cases where we can bring science into it, we should at least try. I mean this entire post's claim probably has at least some support somewhere, but there was no bother to find it. Relying on the flair and swagger of saying "its science bitch…
/r/TheRedPill17/04/16 10:37 PM
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A lot of these kinds of books tend to have 3 or 4 good points that they simply hammer you with over and over. To a degree the repetition is good; sometimes you need to hear it a few times, or a slightly different way for it to stick. If you don't need to hear it more than a couple times though, it can feel like you were suckered and it is nonsense. This is part of the reason I tend to think retention of this kind of material isn't that impressive; you could fit its substance onto a single dense …
/r/TheRedPill17/04/16 10:30 PM
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I use to hate anything that was pseudoscience, spirituality bs stuff but after you see the pragmatic effects it's hard to deny it's effectiveness. I think this mostly comes from the fact that these areas are 1. currently very soft when it comes to the science and 2. very popular among populations who traditionally dont have very good bullshit detectors. People who might go into those ideas with an open mind have halfway decided they already hate it before they touch it. Its fans are its biggest …
/r/TheRedPill17/04/16 10:26 PM
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The world at large would probably use the method more often if it were that obviously superior. Not that it isn't worth trying for yourself. Everyone's mileage may vary. But "It's science bitch" plus a sample group of 1 was the foundation for the original claim, so we aren't exactly dealing with a lot of rigor here. Which is fine, really. It was just a shared good will tip. But I think simply disagreeing (which is incidentally the top comment) is valid in that context as well.
/r/TheRedPill17/04/16 10:20 PM
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If we are bagging on "non optimized" time spent, very little anyone ever does is worthwhile.
/r/TheRedPill16/04/16 10:54 PM
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I think her mind truly did work differently than most (perhaps the result of a woman who truly tried to apply reason as hard as she could?) and for that reason alone I think she is worth picking up. Her actual writing is pretty forced, but I just find that she has a lot of interesting ways of looking at things.
/r/TheRedPill16/04/16 06:15 PM
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I think you may be the exception rather than the rule. In the past I have attempted similar things with college coursework and for me there was simply no comparison.
/r/TheRedPill16/04/16 05:50 PM
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Unless the books you are reading are drivel I didn't want to be too negative (content creation should be appreciated even when you disagree with it) but this was essentially what I meant by a "narrow niche." For the strategy to effectively communicate the subject matter it seems like the subject would have to be so light as to not make it worth the bother.
/r/TheRedPill16/04/16 05:20 PM
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Well, his strategy does offer a way to passively cram material into your head, but I think the implication is that it replaces the original reading, which I dont think is usually a good idea.
/r/TheRedPill16/04/16 05:17 PM
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It's amazing how your life improves when you start putting yourself first. For anyone in the peanut gallery who would like an intellectual deconstruction of the standard indoctrination of selfish=bad, I would suggest Ayn Rand. It helped me, anyway. Our internal world works best when the visceral and the intellectual are in agreement.
/r/TheRedPill16/04/16 04:43 PM
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I have to admit I feel like the books appropriate for this strategy are a fairly narrow niche. If you are reading for pleasure, then this rushes you through the experience you should be enjoying. If you are reading for work/research, the retention usually needs to be quite high. Probably higher than this method gives (though I'm sure milage varies). Most work reading needs more focus, most pleasure reading deserves more time. Just my two cents.
/r/TheRedPill16/04/16 04:36 PM
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Metformin does quite a bit for your survival if you need it, which was my angle. If you dont need it, short term use has practically no downside. If you do, the cost benefit ratio is rather high.
/r/TheRedPill09/04/16 05:55 PM
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The answer to all your questions is "somewhat." You are right to see those correlations, but to be honest most on TRP are going to be stretching their science literacy to be able to seriously go into any depth on them (I mean someone brought up Alex Jones with a straight face). The standard TRP prescription of lifting and getting your diet in order are still good ones though. It is straightforward and attacks the bulk of the problem. This is something that occurs to me as I type this, but if som…
/r/TheRedPill09/04/16 02:34 PM
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Most people respond in kind when someone seems genuine. If you seem like you have an agenda outside the conversation most are more stand offish in response. This is one of the reasons taking tips from salespeople about how to form connections is basically horseshit. That can teach you to engage, to bowl someone over if you need to, but those kinds of tricks don't usually work more than once. The best too tools in your arsenal to form connections (and really all kinds of things) is to be interest…
/r/becomeaman06/04/16 01:50 PM
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Let's all keep TRP reality based, that's my favorite thing about it. I agree, but this sub has a few blindspots of its own in that regard. Better than most, but they still exist.
/r/TheRedPill06/04/16 01:29 PM
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Mindfulness is one of those things I suspect a lot on TRP might be mildly hostile to without knowing why or even what it is. Our brains didn't pop out of the evolutionary process perfectly. It was a slowly additive process, and the deeper parts tend to be more "primitive" parts. Sometimes referred to as the reptile brain. In western society, this part of our brain sees a lot less stimulation that it once did. Most animals lack our higher functions, and essentially live in mindfulness as a result…
/r/TheRedPill04/04/16 02:44 PM
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View the issue as you like, but the statement stands: there are too many people. The percentage makeup is a political problem, not a scientific one.
/r/TheRedPill22/03/16 03:03 PM
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Having less children is one of the few things the civilized world seems to do right. At anything approaching an American standard of living we are already far over the sustainable carrying capacity of the planet.
/r/TheRedPill22/03/16 02:35 PM
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A lot don't. I am a pretty friendly guy, and for the most part well networked. I have been involved with more than a couple weddings where the groom couldn't fill his share of groomsman with actual friends. Suddenly some guy he barely knows (me) is brought in, or brothers of the bride, that kind of thing. I think it is safe to say a significant portion of men prioritize their women too heavily.
/r/TheRedPill16/03/16 02:52 PM
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Yeah, having lame word choice is absolute justification. He deserves whatever he gets. Where do you think using acronyms and emojis like a 14 year old girl ranks on that scale?
/r/TheRedPill16/03/16 02:45 PM
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Poster is an EC so I mean it's probably not fair to call them a tourist. Though questioning why he is endorsed, or even why being endorsed is a thing, might be reasonable.
/r/TheRedPill28/02/16 11:34 AM
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You know, I think we are really missing a salient point in all this. An all female panel of judges awarded the top place to a boy. Or, possibly, they decided to obfuscate the gender of the inventor to the judges. Both are admirable things. I think it is worth noting that they chose to not give in to bias, and legitimately pick who they thought was the best.
/r/TheRedPill27/02/16 10:28 PM
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Funnily enough it turns out even Alpha men from solid homes don't like being labeled as violent and psychotic, so the cycle of meek men continues Because these traits are diametrically opposed to civilization. There is of course a place for violence, but it is rarely necessary in a society that has rule of law. The way the actual world plays out is far more nuanced, but that is the crux of it.
/r/TheRedPill18/02/16 05:02 PM
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Anyone who has invested any time in mindfulness training knows better than this post. A central idea of mindfulness is that it is impossible to control your subconscious mind; if I tell you to think of anything but an elephant, what happens? The only serious tool in managing your subconscious is just to direct your awareness to it and realize you have some choice in how, or if, you respond to it. You dont dictate
/r/TheRedPill17/02/16 05:58 PM
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Blowing off his children sucks, though. Willing to bet this is just her being nonsensical. He could have missed a single event and that is now her narrative of him.
/r/TheRedPill15/02/16 02:20 PM
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I agree. Despite the sub's reputation the vast majority of us don't want to see anyone truly be raped. It is an awful crime. But that same sense of injustice turns a 180 when women lie about it, and then gets compounded by the feeling we are being taken advantage of. Every cry of wolf diminishes women's ability to yet help when they really need it.
/r/TheRedPill11/02/16 03:47 PM
1

That's a pretty potent statistic, where is it from?
/r/TheRedPill11/02/16 03:42 PM
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The woman wants a child, OP can't provide one: if the genders were reversed everyone would be calling for her to be kicked out post haste.
/r/TheRedPill21/01/16 02:26 PM
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I think in this case the science can stand on its own. Repackaging dilutes the message
/r/TheRedPill16/01/16 04:34 PM
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Scientists aren't all that simpleminded, despite common stereotypes that paint us as literalist morons with no common sense There is no material bounty that is not fundamentally due to science: scientific knowledge and it's application is civilization. Some people are threatened by this, and need to subvert it in small ways in order to feel better. Even while totally depending on it.
/r/TheRedPill12/01/16 05:32 PM
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I'm guessing the second group doesn't much care for the first
/r/TheRedPill08/01/16 03:08 PM
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My advice would be to cut this list way, way down. Better to really understand a few of these than blaze through a dozen. Further, a lot of these books are built to have actionable material you should be performing: if you are truly doing those things I doubt you will be able (or need) to get through all of them.
/r/becomeaman06/01/16 04:24 PM
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Iron John should be required reading for anyone interested in masculinity as a subject.
/r/becomeaman06/01/16 04:22 PM
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Since you seem to be missing the subtext, the original question was likely for determination of cultural upbringing. Absolutely relevant. Think before you speak.
/r/TheRedPill05/01/16 03:24 AM
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I'm not sure if I came up with it, or am paraphrasing from somewhere else, but sometimes if you pay attention, people will accidentally tell you too much truth.
/r/TheRedPill01/01/16 05:54 PM
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This is a result of a growing technology base and an exploding labor pool. Though women do generally choose careers/jobs that add less value than men (as per your stats), you would have seen numbers tilt this direction regardless. There are plenty of problems feminism has created, but this isn't one; this is simply the inevitable consequence of computing, automation, and an expanding labor pool. To quote myself in another post I have made on the subject: I will speak bluntly on this; human life …
/r/TheRedPill01/01/16 05:31 PM
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I think the "hungry for dick" angle is probably to some extent true, but it is overemphasized due to basic male projection. What I think is closer to the truth are two things: It really is just fun to travel. I don't need a motivation why girls like ice cream. As women's only real power is social, they crave new social environments to refresh it's efficacy. This is also the reason women tend to have few real friends, and lots of acquaintances; they strip mine social groups and must always be see…
/r/TheRedPill28/12/15 03:51 PM
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Traditionally, in most ancient cultures, manhood was bestowed by other men, usually in rituals that the women were not allowed to participate in. In one of my favorites, the boy turned man is reintroduced to his mother/sisters upon his return as if he were a different person entirely. I always laugh a bit inwardly when women propose that they even get to give input on a man's masculinity. Not only do they not get a vote, they don't even get to know the language the ballots are in.
/r/TheRedPill09/12/15 01:29 AM
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I mean it wasn't my idea. I was just responding to the comment
/r/TheRedPill08/12/15 02:41 PM
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Presumably in the scenario described in the post where everyone has literal marriage contracts, they would generally be honored. Otherwise, there would be no point in having contracts at all (what we have now, basically.)
/r/TheRedPill08/12/15 10:54 AM
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I mean conceivably the hypothetical contracts could include whatever the hell you want. Fidelity clauses etc.
/r/TheRedPill08/12/15 10:52 AM
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Mark my words: Marriage will cease being about sexual fidelity or raising biological children. It will become more of a financial agreement, e.g., "Let's live together and share expenses, chores, and child-rearing tasks." I'm not trying to be a troll here, but I honestly don't see a particular problem with this arrangement. I realize as someone never planning on having children that my viewpoint might be different than most, but a contract situation where responsibilities and penalties are laid …
/r/TheRedPill08/12/15 01:25 AM
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Unless you are assigning legal powers to religions, like stoning, (not acceptable) all they really have the power to do is shame. Enforcing virginity, minimizing divorce, etc. Which is certainly potent. But it only works, so to speak, if you believe in it.
/r/TheRedPill05/12/15 06:51 PM
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Matt and Trey might not be consciously trying to communicate that, but I think the comparison holds merit regardless.
/r/TheRedPill05/12/15 02:42 PM
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Please no suggestions of violence. If you actually think this was a possibility you need to read more and post less
/r/becomeaman30/11/15 12:25 PM
1

It isn't easier to build muscle, it is easier to see built muscle, as it isn't spread over so large an area.
/r/TheRedPill29/11/15 04:07 AM
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Not to say I disagree with you thematically, but what is your sourcing? I have seen data that men and women around 35 want marriage roughly the same amount
/r/TheRedPill22/11/15 11:44 AM
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I think you see a somewhat related phenomenon in the use of nonsense positivity language with women. Things like surrounding herself with sickly sweet quotes and decorations that say things like "love," or "happiness." Sessions where women pelt each other relentlessly with support for decisions that can't pass the barest forms of moral muster. Their ability to "live in the now," as compared to a man is truly breathtaking.
/r/TheRedPill19/11/15 06:29 AM
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I'm not sure I agree, but I do think this option should always be on the table. Of course, being here already lends itself to bias.
/r/TheRedPill11/11/15 03:20 AM
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They def put in work. I rarely look at an thread of theirs that doesn't have a few whole threads deleted.
/r/TheRedPill11/11/15 03:18 AM
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I remember always thinking the same thing about straight brimmed hats. I despised them, and still do. But it persisted long enough that it's just the style now. It's just how you wear hats. You can see relatively normal, non douchebag guys rocking the look. I think you are about right skin tight, but form fitting jeans are the style now, whether you like it or not. Or rather, baggy jeans are out. That they were in was really the anomaly in the first place.
/r/TheRedPill08/11/15 11:27 PM
2

Excellent post, much appreciated
/r/TheRedPill08/11/15 02:43 PM
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Not that I doubt the truth of it, but are there any actual statistics for that anywhere? It's something I really hadn't ever thought of but now that I think about it, it makes sense.
/r/TheRedPill08/11/15 05:00 AM
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Here's another link that landed on the front page. It has more data if you wish to see it. I suspect you will hand wave it away, but nonetheless : http://www.theguardian.com/business/2015/nov/07/artificial-intelligence-homo-sapiens-split-handful-gods
/r/TheRedPill08/11/15 04:30 AM
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Well, I don't think there's any possibility of accomplishing (b) before (a), so I am content with being more concerned with that first.
/r/TheRedPill07/11/15 12:03 AM
1

I'll bother with this later when I have time.
/r/TheRedPill06/11/15 07:24 PM
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The video is linked for expediency. Jobs is nebulous. Waiteresses and sign flippers are jobs. It's more about jobs that create value and aren't busy work. You didn't address any of the points raised, regardless.
/r/TheRedPill06/11/15 07:15 PM
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Here's a 15 minute video explaining why I disagree. Edit: this landed on the front page as well http://www.theguardian.com/business/2015/nov/07/artificial-intelligence-homo-sapiens-split-handful-gods
/r/TheRedPill06/11/15 06:57 PM
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There's really not any contradiction in what you are saying and what I said. I agree skills are valuable. There will always be some skills that are valuable. But that list grows smaller all the time, while the population grows larger.
/r/TheRedPill06/11/15 06:27 PM
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The nature of the "taking" is what divides a lot of people. Some people think you need to go earn it, which means different things to different people. Some really shitty people think stealing and earning are basically equivalent. And some people think using political means to provide for yourself and family is acceptable. As the saying goes, your enemy never believes himself the villain.
/r/TheRedPill06/11/15 06:15 PM
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In a world with the ever increasing level of technology we have, I have a hard time envisioning anything other than basic income being feasible. Human labor simply isn't worth that much anymore, both in the absolute sense and the fact population is always growing. I mean we could continue to stratify like we have, but eventually people rebel against that sort of thing. Basic income makes a lot more sense.
/r/TheRedPill06/11/15 06:11 PM
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I'm reminded of a little kid at Christmas who ran up and asked me where his present was when I arrived during the holidays. First thing he said to me. He said it adorably, but I could also tell he meant business; just old enough to know what the time of year meant for him without being old enough to at least feign appreciation. The truth was, I did bring him a present, but in the car it stayed, and it ended up becoming a later birthday present. He probably didn't need more gifts anyway, truth be…
/r/TheRedPill06/11/15 05:42 PM
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I think legalizing prostitution is one of the great traps hidden for feminism at large. Certainly there are a lot who oppose it, but the cognitive dissonance of that is so resounding that even some of the rank and file hear it; there is plenty of dissent. If you talk to random girls who identify as feminist but don't really read anything about it, they probably will off the cuff support it. And really, they should. If prostitution becomes legal, we will see a pretty big market shift. But, even i…
/r/TheRedPill06/11/15 03:46 PM
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Actually, it seems like you might be guilty of what you are accusing everyone else of. These are hypothetical situations; evidence will be hard to come by. I provided a rationale, however, and if for some reason you find flaw with that you are welcome to come up with a counter argument. Or, you can just whine. That's also an option.
/r/TheRedPill06/11/15 03:24 PM
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I've heard the argument that if we were all kicked to the stone age, then the "redneck survivalist types" wouldn't stand a much better chance of living than a city-dweller This is more true than false. Certainly survivalists can help themselves much more than the normal person, but there are a million ways to die from just "bad luck" that are practically impossible to prepare for or be aware of. Now, in any given scenario I would still bet on the survivalist, but in this context the majority of …
/r/TheRedPill06/11/15 03:25 AM
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In the context of something like frame which is entirely social/perceptual, there almost doesn't seem to be a difference between the two. In all honesty I think you have to have a little bit of self delusion in you to run at peak efficiency. That really goes for a lot of things.
/r/TheRedPill04/11/15 06:49 AM
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I always found it strange when Roosh or others in the Manosphere would attack gay men This happens? Aside from being moronic, it is just objectively bad policy if you wish to accrue social clout. What is even the argument? I have no idea what angle of attack you could even take. If anything my gaybros are sympathetic to the straightbro struggle.
/r/TheRedPill28/10/15 03:36 PM
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At the time I happened to read Time Enough For Love (20?), what stuck out to me the most was Lazarus' absolutely ruthless intellect and self honesty. If someone was stupid or lazy, he would call them out on this; and this includes himself. As it happens, this is a fairly common trait of Heinlein's characters, as I eventually found out. But the almost libertarian way he would apply these same principles to other characters, even at his own detriment, was admirable and unheard of to me at the time…
/r/TheRedPill27/10/15 11:03 PM
1

I think in general, and especially within context of this sub, you will need to find men who don't have much trouble with women. People have recommended MMA gyms, but this could also apply to dudes in LTR or even MGTOW. You can't be their "competition" else you end up with the backbiting you have experienced. Beyond that, any shared interest is a good starting point, but above all, they (and you) have to be a good friend, and this usually comes with a very healthy respect for the ideas of friend…
/r/TheRedPill27/10/15 11:45 AM
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I respect the post, but I can't help but feel this endless argument of whether something is alpha/beta etc is just semantics.
/r/TheRedPill27/10/15 11:26 AM
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I see where you are coming from in this, but if we restrict posting that heavily it may as well be a blog, and those already exist. It also implies that someone "less venerated" can't make a substantive post which us assuredly not true. That step is the beginning of the end in a lot of organizations.
/r/TheRedPill27/10/15 11:23 AM
0

I'm pretty sure it was around a long time before he said it.
/r/TheRedPill27/10/15 09:54 AM
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I'm paraphrasing, but I remember reading once that in every relationship one person is dominate over the other. If you don't know who the dominate person in your relationship is, you are most assuredly not it.
/r/TheRedPill26/10/15 09:03 PM
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I think you are unfairly categorizing atheists as only people with mismanaged emotions. There are certainly some who line up with that, but plenty make the choice because that is truly where logic has lead them.
/r/TheRedPill26/10/15 08:03 PM
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I get the sense sometimes in female group interactions like this it is some kind of contest to see who can be the most over the top supportive. Like seriously, there is nothing she needs to correct about her behavior? Give me a break
/r/TheRedPill23/10/15 04:49 PM
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I find myself a little annoyed at these kinds of stories keep cropping up. As soon as women aren't living in wish fulfilled lives, it is reported on as serious news. It takes en masse withdrawal the scale of herbivore men to even blip that same radar.
/r/TheRedPill23/10/15 03:50 PM
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A significant portion (most?) of this sub is quite frankly not that interested in this sort of thing. They are interested in learning things to get over on women and then hearing justification that anything they want to do to anyone is totally cool. "Enjoy the decline."
/r/TheRedPill23/10/15 04:49 AM
0

Alfred is Batman's surrogate parent, and as such has a responsibility to see the Wayne family dynasty carry on. Not an unreasonable thing.
/r/TheRedPill23/10/15 04:43 AM
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Not knowing a lot about coding, isn't it kind of a "thing" about how meritocratus coding is? Like so much it is a sore spot for some women's groups? Doesn't just dumping more women into coding exacerbate this problem and make it more obvious? Seems like there might be some benefit to that level of exposure, at least.
/r/TheRedPill22/10/15 03:27 PM
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You are retarded and obviously have no idea what you are talking about
/r/TheRedPill21/10/15 06:20 AM
1

What's the deal with women wanting to pose in front of fancy cars? I mean, I know that it has some relation to status and such but I will be honest, I can't exactly pin it down. It feels elementary but it puzzles me. I've never been much of a car guy so maybe that's the reason for the confusion.
/r/TheRedPill09/10/15 04:23 PM
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My phone company is more loyal than a woman could ever be The sharpest barb in the whole thread
/r/TheRedPill09/10/15 04:17 PM
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Some of this info is already pretty good, but if I could give my perspective on it: There was a post not too long ago on TRP about essentially "faking it till you make it" I think by Whisper. Poke around and you should find it. I think there is a lot of validity to this strategy, and doubly so for the types of personality that tend to live inside their head, which you (and myself) seem to fall into. Second is, as was already mentioned, impostor syndrome. The truth is that in the way you probably…
/r/becomeaman09/10/15 03:01 PM
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There will be a generation of women caught in the crossfire who will have taken out astronomical amounts of student loans who will quite simply be unemployable I think it is a lot more likely that student loans would simply be "forgiven" by the government.
/r/TheRedPill07/10/15 09:52 PM
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I actually am of the opposite opinion. I think he sounds like a computer program trying to sound human by trawling TRP archives.
/r/TheRedPill07/10/15 04:33 PM
1

Agreed. I would suggest a light touch, but in a sense giving up on him entirely is not an acceptable thing to do as a friend.
/r/TheRedPill07/10/15 04:22 PM
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There was a very underrated post floating around awhile back by /u/JR550 that was an academic paper examining the sociology of elites. I can't link it, but if you search "elites" it should come up first in results. I really wish we had more posts like it, to be honest; really first rate information. That post and this one have some common threads.
/r/TheRedPill07/10/15 04:19 PM
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A great post. I would add going to a lab test place and getting a panel run is a good move. You can establish a baseline of where your test levels are, and it will give you an idea if something like TRT might be a more appropriate option. I think you can find coupons and such online but for the most part it is sub 100 dollars.
/r/TheRedPill07/10/15 03:06 AM
1

I wonder what his girl is doing for 40k a year. That's pretty much bottom barrel for anyone with a science degree.
/r/TheRedPill28/09/15 09:02 AM
2

If more women could stomach the math you would probably see it there too. Being even a mediocre scientist will get you incredible opportunity as a woman.
/r/TheRedPill27/09/15 04:54 PM
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She was reportedly more proud of being the first PM with a science background than being the first woman
/r/TheRedPill27/09/15 01:33 AM
2

And likely your opponent is even more hapless than you are in the whole thing. In Vietnam the dude had likely never been more than a few miles from where he was born, let alone gave fuck all about the cause he was dying for.
/r/TheRedPill22/09/15 02:49 PM
1

Yeah, it's a shame but I guess it's to be expected even on TRP. Guy spaces have their own pitfalls
/r/TheRedPill22/09/15 01:23 PM
1

In fairness, I think a fair few of some of the twoX posts and such are planted as well. They just sound too perfect sometimes.
/r/TheRedPill22/09/15 01:20 PM
3

You might look into cognitive behavior therapy (CBT), mindefulness exercises in particular. A lot of people's depression stems from negative thought patterns that are essentially stuck on a loop; mindfulness is quite good at disrupting that pattern. Its no silver bullet, but it tends to be effective.
/r/becomeaman21/09/15 06:16 PM
1

Good post. I realize it is a bit out of the scope of what you are saying, but I could use some advice on 2 (possibly related) issues. I seem to be having trouble getting my right scapula to (I think) upwardly rotate. It has always been a little wonky for me when overhead pressing, but lately I have had significantly reduced mobility. As in, one arm can be completely vertical shoulder to ear, while the other is more like 2 o'clock. There's no pain, and if I simply move that arm with the other, it…
/r/TheRedPill21/09/15 02:09 PM
1

I completely agree. It never feels organic, or genuine. It comes across as exactly what it is: contrived intimacy. If someone knows of some actual data backing up that age old pearl I would be interested in seeing it, because I suspect it is wrong.
/r/TheRedPill21/09/15 01:36 PM
1

Your complete disregard for capitalization is really triggering me
/r/becomeaman21/09/15 12:11 PM
2

..the post says do not submit to others out of fear. Even if it was a typo that /u/whisper edited later, I think context clues probably could have let you figure that one out pretty easily. I think this is, in a sense, what he is talking about with the Gronk stuff.
/r/TheRedPill19/09/15 03:14 PM
3

I appreciate the post, but respectfully disagree. To be equal one must adhere to the standards of the group in this case 1. being a male and 2. having the goal to optimize one's sexual strategy. The gang rewards adherence to standards with honor(or glory, see below) and failure to achieve those standards with shame. This includes every male alive, practically. Our blue friends simply have a bad read on what "optimizing" really means. Remember that everyone acts in such a way that they think will…
/r/TheRedPill19/09/15 03:08 PM
5

In our feminized, feminist society, we have taken steps to abolish all social hierarchies, seeing them as inherently oppressive. To a feminist, power = oppression, always. I like this observation a lot. I think this is a another case of women projecting; since they would themselves always use power to oppress, they don't even recognize a line between the two.
/r/TheRedPill19/09/15 02:47 PM
2

Not even red pill, it goes well beyond that. It is a running joke to pretty much the entire population at this point.
/r/TheRedPill18/09/15 03:00 PM
-2

Degrees without math don't really count as education.
/r/TheRedPill18/09/15 02:57 AM
8

While I agree with you, awareness is engagement of a sort. Not every emotional impulse needs or deserves a response; I think our ability at this discernment is one of the critical pillars of being a man, and one of the great differences between men and women.
/r/TheRedPill17/09/15 02:25 PM
2

Great, great post, especially point 2. I feel like we need more posts like this one; I still see comments where I feel like some people are only superficially "getting it." I get the feeling that for some RP is just the latest in a long line of emulated personalities that guys, especially younger guys, are putting on like clothing.
/r/TheRedPill16/09/15 04:33 PM
5

I have pretty good grammar effortlessly, and I am pretty funny effortlessly. If a girl wants to think either means I'm overinvested, I don't particularly care; I will just get a new less retarded one. In my situation acting otherwise is the labor. So I don't do it.
/r/TheRedPill16/09/15 04:07 PM
3

Not OP, but I have a fair bit of experience in the online arena and I would say for me it is: 20% or so of my messages get responses worth pursuing. I can get about 75% of those to meet it I want to. I bang at least 80% of the ones I end up meeting, and about 75% of those on the first meet. Now, I screen pretty strongly for sex; I think that accounts for my numbers being a bit lopsided as the interaction moves forward. My initial success is a bit tougher, but it pays off later on.
/r/TheRedPill16/09/15 01:48 PM
2

I notice this too. It all comes down to just flying the flag she needs. Some girls (journalism/English lit types) will swing hard the other direction, talking about Oxford commas like some kind of horseshit deal breaker. As always, be perceptive and adaptable.
/r/TheRedPill16/09/15 01:27 PM
10

First thing, the quote isn't C.S Lewis. Second, if it were Lewis it wouldn't be biblical text; he was a biblical apologist.
/r/TheRedPill14/09/15 02:24 PM
4

https://en.m.wikiquote.org/wiki/Elie_Wiesel Not C.S Lewis
/r/TheRedPill14/09/15 02:22 PM
1

As much sympathy I have for the falsely accused, we shouldn't approve of "filing it in the bin." We don't have to subvert the process to win, we just have to insist on actual evidence and accountability to take someone's freedom away. We don't buck the system, we simply hold it accountable to itself.
/r/TheRedPill13/09/15 05:30 PM
10

Some places (twin peaks, bikinis, and the like) don't even really try to hide the association. They just have their servers wear pasties or prance about in lingerie. Which I'm fine with, obviously, but it's simply a step closer to the honesty of how those tips are really made.
/r/TheRedPill12/09/15 02:31 PM
53

This post is awful. First thing, your responsibility of keeping yourself attractive does not end when you are married, in some ways it even increases. That is a piss poor excuse. Second, there are so many benefits (increased testosterone, mental clarity, social respect) to lifting that I have to assume you didn't even try googling your question. Lifting is hard, everyone knows. It is much easier to be a lazy sack of crap. All the more critical you do it anyway
/r/becomeaman09/09/15 04:09 PM
9

A good post. I suspect the way forward is to accept that people are entitled to something for nothing I suspect this as well. Something like Basic Income maybe. I realize this sub is almost certainly against that, but to be honest I don't think they have a leg to stand on. If I can speak frankly, most people's labor isnt worth very much. If you are making a great living these days, it is usually by some manipulation of law/government, or scientists and engineers just haven't gotten around to aut…
/r/TheRedPill07/09/15 06:29 PM
2

Well, there are groups that advocate granting some animals non-human personhood which I think make some good points. Great apes and dolphins, for example, are smarter than children in a lot of ways. So whether it would be murder or not I suppose depends on a lot of questions of philosophy. However, I have no doubt that there will absolutely be a kill switch set up in this situation, ethical consequences be damned; the stakes are simply too high.
/r/TheRedPill07/09/15 06:10 PM
1

I wouldn't be surprised if there is some sort of "planned" occasion where the AI would have incentive to deceive without knowing the researchers were in on it. Of course, the main issue becoming are we smart enough to be able to pull it off is always on the table, as you mentioned. I'm not smart enough to have a very informed opinion on it, but it certainly is interesting to think about.
/r/TheRedPill07/09/15 05:40 PM
2

I'm fairly sure there's actually a thought experiment I've read about somewhere that assumes exactly that, but I cant remember many details of it. It makes almost a certain kind of poetic sense that this would actually be the crux of knowing an AI had been created: when it tries deception.
/r/TheRedPill07/09/15 05:28 PM
4

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burden_of_proof
/r/TheRedPill07/09/15 05:20 PM
2

I made a similar comment awhile back. The "endorsement" process needs some work if we want to treat it like it matters. For me the rub comes from the fact that I have seen comments with flair next them that honestly were just not all that good. I mean no one bats a thousand, but if we are going to treat being an EC like that big of a deal, I would like a little bit more quality control on who gets it.
/r/TheRedPill07/09/15 05:04 PM
7

There are good reasons to be concerned, but at the end of the day it is going to happen anyway; there's no possibility something with that level of utility will be ignored.
/r/TheRedPill07/09/15 05:00 PM
3

As of now it's still the highest rated comment in the thread, which is pretty sad on a couple levels
/r/TheRedPill07/09/15 04:37 PM
17

Sadly RP attracts a significant number of these people. Tinfoil conspiracy and blatant racism aside, few of those statements are really supported by data.
/r/TheRedPill07/09/15 03:32 PM
33

I will speak bluntly on this; human life is very cheap, and only getting cheaper. Science allows us to do far more with less, and population has already grown to levels where we could lose a couple billion and barely miss a step. The only people that will truly be important are upper level scientists and engineers; at least until AI kicks off. What has been true for some time now will become even more true in the coming decades; politicians, businessmen, and the like all derive their actual powe…
/r/TheRedPill07/09/15 02:32 PM
2

Legal question for someone more knowledgeable than I: Say some state decided to enact a really good set of marriage laws; very fair, etc. Would there be any value to marriage tourism? Like would it benefit me to marry or divorce in that state, though I live in another? Or is that even possible? I know gay marriage worked somewhat like that, and in my mind if we could just get one state with fair laws it would help a lot.
/r/TheRedPill05/09/15 01:15 PM
3

Whoa man, you are married and have other men around who aren't your subservients? You sound beta as fuck. /s Real talk, I'm glad to here you have some support. The only thing better than getting a smart man on a problem is getting several smart men on a problem. You are obviously someone who actually understands that RP can be used with a light touch to gain friends and allies. Best of luck with things. I can say with some experience with fibro diagnosis that all 3 people I know who "had" it wer…
/r/TheRedPill03/09/15 03:11 PM
2

There are like 4 posts in this thread pointing exactly that out.
/r/TheRedPill03/09/15 02:40 PM
-2

That doesn't mean the guys here are without morals- and most would not advocate convincing an 18 year old girl to kill herself. I realize this to be the case. Those that would are a fair minority, just a bit vocal. It just annoys me when people are citing TRP as an excuse to essentially act like a spoiled child.
/r/TheRedPill01/09/15 03:33 PM
4

I actually was commenting a few days ago that applying absolute RP amorality to real life was sociopathic. I basically agree that we shouldn't get tangled in morality on this sub, but when I see people saying you should steal or ruin people's lives if it helps you, I can't help but think this girl isn't doing anything wrong by that logic. Ruthless self interest? Check Willingness to not be constrained by society's morals? Check Machiavellian plotting and execution? Check
/r/TheRedPill01/09/15 02:58 PM
2

For the purposes of this sub, amorality is accepted, and probably necessary for meaningful conversation. Applying that strictly to real life, however, makes you a sociopath. Even the men who accept female nature in it's darkest form will generally agree it isn't conducive to civilization (enjoy the decline, right?). This has been balanced by men's natures in the past, but a non-trivial amount of the TRP, who are supposed to be enlightened, advocate essentially acting like a woman.
/r/TheRedPill31/08/15 04:14 PM
2

It isn't different. A lot of people use the RP to justify being a child, and will criticize women for those same things.
/r/TheRedPill31/08/15 03:24 PM
3

Why not simply steal money? I mean there is a chance you get caught, but there is also a chance you don't. Results are all that matter. Why shouldn't a woman try to stuff that used condom inside herself and get pregnant? Why shouldn't she divorce rape you as hard as she can? Results are all that matter. Think that way if you like, but all the criticisms we level at women only hold water if we don't act that way ourselves.
/r/TheRedPill31/08/15 03:22 PM
7

I would make a fairly large distinction between using steroids and taking someone else's work to become rich. Steroid use doesn't affect anyone else; taking their work does.
/r/TheRedPill31/08/15 01:32 AM
1

It is outside the scope of this conversation but in this book, most of the behavior in this sub would be described as being stuck in the "lover" phase. Which is actually fine, to an extent. When you are very young this is appropriate. But you are meant to progress eventually to the "king" phase, and that is where a fair few of the posters here fall down. They define being alpha entirely by your relationship with women, which some people here don't realize is actually very much a beta trait.
/r/TheRedPill29/08/15 04:56 PM
2

While I am happy this board exists, there are definitely moments that make me see why everyone hates TRP. In the pursuit of being a chest thumping alpha, some regress to childlike emotional maturity.
/r/TheRedPill29/08/15 04:17 PM
1

You don't have to react. Let her talk. None of it matters. If she chooses to use her only opportunity at understanding to aim a barb at you then let her aim it, and then watch it bounce harmlessly off as you dismiss her. Again, this has the tone of self protection. You are beyond her ability to harm, or should be. If you can only be stoic by banishing her then you aren't nearly as stoic as you think.
/r/TheRedPill28/08/15 06:04 PM
11

This reeks of vengeance to me. If you truly have frame, and you presumably cared about the girl, giving her some kind of closure is very reasonable. Assuming it wasn't something overt (cheating and the like) she may even learn something from the conversation she can internalize and actually learn from for her next relationship. I mean, the chances are low, but there's a chance. Do you think all the upper tier unicornish women you have met in your life popped out of the womb that way? You should,…
/r/TheRedPill28/08/15 04:56 PM
1

This post actually hints at what I personally believe to be the beta/orbitor strategy we don't talk about much here. I think some of the time, guys who are playing surrogate boyfriend for women are actually somewhat realistic about their chances with her. However, they often think it may get them in with their friends. Social circle game is some of the most effective if you don't really know what you are doing. Some of the easiest sex I ever had was with friends of friends who had heard various …
/r/TheRedPill28/08/15 04:23 PM
2

With all the wonderful themes inside of that quintet of books (Speaker of the Dead in particular), I feel like it is really a shame to just focus on this small bit. I mean, calling Ender "beta" is about the most hamfisted thing I can imagine. He destroys fucking civilizations, and leads Earth into battle as a child. Oh, he doesn't react with kunfgu pimp slap action when a woman gives lip? Nevermind, he's a beta. Ignore the fact that one of the women is his nearly as genius sister, and the other …
/r/TheRedPill26/08/15 08:58 PM
1

I'm honestly wondering if we read the same book
/r/TheRedPill25/08/15 01:37 PM
1

Parents want to have grandchildren, so they prefer you to conduct activities that result in a family, especially your mother. On the one hand, your family doesn't want you to be a beta loser, on the other hand, they want to support the female imperative and have children. You'll often see that other parents are willing to sacrifice their son's well being just a little bit in exchange for this goal. I suspect this has to do with you validating their own sacrifices in bringing you up. The idea of …
/r/TheRedPill24/08/15 01:52 PM
6

Someone with more experience with children will probably have better advice, but mine would be to absolutely not have a child during the anger phase, for too many reasons to even list. Also, you mention having a son, which is great, but are you prepared to love a daughter just the same? Are you willing to have multiple children if that's what it takes? Having a kid to assuage past issues for yourself seems dangerous to me; kids are a monumental amount of commitment and work if you want to do it …
/r/TheRedPill24/08/15 01:17 PM
5

I completely get what you mean here. I don't even disagree for the most part. For me the rub comes from the fact that I have seen comments with flair next them that honestly were just not all that good. I mean no one bats a thousand, but if we are going to treat being an EC like that big of a deal, I would like a little bit more quality control on who gets it. Further, and perhaps most damning, is the fact that those posts are often up voted ridiculously for no real reason; I suspect people just…
/r/TheRedPill24/08/15 01:05 PM
23

I might be the only one here, but using lots of hierarchical reference ("Redpill Vanguard", "Even endorsed contributers!") feels off putting for me. Not that I don't appreciate the content of the posts. I just think they can stand on their own merit without the trappings of state.
/r/TheRedPill23/08/15 10:17 PM
1

I have a hard time disagreeing. Stripping isn't really anything other than a hyper version of the CC: they get money in exchange for using their sexuality against men. The fact that there (mostly) isn't a dick going into her is almost inconsequential.
/r/TheRedPill23/08/15 09:45 PM
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I actually get a little frustrated with this myself. When expressing a similar sentiment to girls I have known, they dismiss it entirely. They have male attention because they are so cool/fun etc. I always propose they test this theory by gaining 40 pounds. So far no one has taken me up on it.
/r/TheRedPill23/08/15 09:32 PM
2

With no offense to OP, can someone confirm this? I may consider it if it truly does lead to good results, but I admit to being pretty skeptical.
/r/TheRedPill23/08/15 09:25 PM
3

Even on TRP, most people are followers. They have simply exchanged one master for another. To be fair, this sub is a lot more benevolent in that way than TwoX would be. I think it mostly comes down to to the question of what vs why. Most people are more interested in assimilating quickly into the chosen subgroup and acting "properly" than they are knowing why it is "proper" to act that way. You can tell these people in general by the cracks that show in strange statements like you cited. It is l…
/r/TheRedPill23/08/15 09:03 PM
6

I will paraphase Hitchens and say that, as long as you are getting more from the drug than the drug is getting from you, proceed.
/r/TheRedPill23/08/15 03:51 PM
23

I see Atlas Shrugged brought up on this sub fairly often, and not without merit. There is plenty to learn, and more than a few parallels with TRP. But both the book and ideology are fairly dense, and I have very rarely seen anyone cite it who had actually read the book. There is a lot of nuance in Rand's use of words like selfish that doesn't come across when people cite her to defend any damn fool thing they want to do. I would encourage everyone to take on the task of reading her (and a task i…
/r/TheRedPill23/08/15 02:53 PM
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You want to know the truth? Most of the things everyone does is a waste of time. I mean fuck, if we want to ultra efficient we should probably only ever have sex when we want to reproduce, right? Also, as a sub we need to figure out the perfect 2 or 3 meals to cycle and only eat those due to the prep/cost/benefit coefficient. Ad nauseum. I'm going to let everyone in on a little secret: if RP is the only thing you have going on in your life, you are boring as fuck and no amount of lifting and rec…
/r/TheRedPill23/08/15 06:57 AM
17

I dont disagree with your post, but I would like to add a few things. First, I don't think it is that Betas aren't creating value; they are. Ask any 40 year old single mother this. The problem is they are creating it in the wrong currency and for the wrong market. They are trying to use pesos while in New York. It could still technically work, but you better have a lot of fucking pesos. Better to simply use dollars. Second thing being, I think a lot of guys are going to take away from this post …
/r/TheRedPill20/08/15 02:32 PM
1

Chic on relationshits Honestly man, kind of childish. That subs lack of worth is obvious to everyone here. No need to name call.
/r/TheRedPill19/08/15 11:00 PM
11

Didn't know who he was before TD, but are comfortable saying that is his best work? Does not compute
/r/TheRedPill19/08/15 02:41 PM
27

For fucking real. The amount this sub obsesses over being the alpha in every single situation is ridiculous. It is try hard, and very obvious most of the time. External mastery comes after internal mastery.
/r/TheRedPill19/08/15 02:39 PM
8

That was when I realized I was completely wasting my time I wouldn't go this far. Outside of being a billionaire you probably won't ever match that dude, but neither will practically anyone else; there's no shame in that.
/r/TheRedPill18/08/15 08:22 PM
6

Well, in my example the guy was pretty fucking tall, I would guess 6'3 or 6'4. Plus he has a twin, ha! I would have to guess that height is indeed critical. To exist in that rarefied air you probably can't have anything about you that could seen as a "defect" by the vast majority of women.
/r/TheRedPill18/08/15 08:17 PM
11

I'd rather have my position in life than his, assuming I'd have to trade physiques. He will match your physique a millennium before you match his wealth. Even if you are the fittest man on the planet, it is still a good trade. Of course, he doesn't have to. With that much money he can look however the fuck he wants and slay. Assuming he would even care about someone rolling up on his girl, he could have you disappeared before the condom dried out. I'm glad you are confident and proud of yourself…
/r/TheRedPill18/08/15 07:55 PM
14

I had a somewhat similar experience once. I was meeting a tinder date and the bartender was basically so fucking attractive that he couldn't help but cockblock me. I mean, I do pretty well; something like 3/4 of my tinder "dates" end in sex the first time. But this guy was just on another level. Several girls were pretty much throwing themselves at him with an abandon I haven't seen since. He actually seemed like a pretty nice guy, I really got the sense he wasn't trying to screw up my game, he …
/r/TheRedPill18/08/15 07:43 PM
5

Guys here are too fast with the 'next her' advice. Setting the world on fire just because the bitch pushed for more power is not reason enough to break up with her. Seriously. It is the normal course of not just women, but people, to try to accrue more power. Her simply bringing it up is not an act of war. It you asked for a raise would it be appropriate for your boss to fire you? Set good boundaries of course. And if she can't let it drop with grace then revisit the issue with perhaps more seri…
/r/TheRedPill18/08/15 01:21 PM
5

This might be out of the scope of what you mean, but I believe that the current paradigm exists because we are essentially victims of our own success. Science has given us an abundance practically unimagined by our ancestors. This is wonderful, but has created a lot of problems for us as our comparatively ancient psychology clashes with it. With so much of the truly meaningful work being done by computers/machines, or made trivial because of them, most that is left to the Western male is just bu…
/r/TheRedPill17/08/15 12:56 PM
3

Agree. I think these are far superior
/r/TheRedPill15/08/15 04:13 PM
1

You are ignoring a colossal amount of research and just general RP wisdom to believe that. It certainly isn't the only trait, but ignoring it is silly.
/r/TheRedPill04/08/15 06:44 PM
30

Anyone who doesn't think RP has moments of its own hamster are deluding themselves
/r/TheRedPill04/08/15 06:39 PM
1

I'm not really disagreeing with your post, but it would be nice to see some citations for some of the claims. Even if it is just links to the sidebar material, it is better than nothing. Though, I would have to wonder what the purpose of the post was if it didn't have some novel information in it. I say this really to TRP in general, and not you in particular. I realize I probably care more about the science than most do.
/r/TheRedPill27/07/15 10:56 PM
1

Perhaps this will help: http://articles.latimes.com/2012/jul/13/news/la-ol-blowback-pscyhology-science-20120713
/r/TheRedPill26/07/15 04:21 AM
4

TRP has its own hamster, believe it. There is a non trivial section of the sub that belives feminism is going to literally end the world. Interestingly, some of these same people will ignore other more salient dangers, even if backed by science. But at the end of the day the good content certainly outweighs the bad, and even disagreements are usually able to be civil.
/r/TheRedPill25/07/15 01:57 PM
5

There is zero possibility 1st world countries will collapse with in a decade or two due simply to gender dynamics. They don't help, but let's be serious. Ecological reasons are certainly more probable, but the timeline for those is longer. We would simply steal from the third world if need be.
/r/TheRedPill25/07/15 02:13 AM
1

I can see all first world countries in complete collapse within a decade or two Hard to read past this sentence.
/r/TheRedPill24/07/15 10:33 PM
14

Science is physics, chemistry, and biology. Some people even quibble a bit about biology. Sort of math in a sense but it is kind of in its own category. Everything else is not science. At least not yet. Economists, political "scientists," and most certainly psychologists, will need to up their game in a big way if they want to graduate to being science.
/r/TheRedPill24/07/15 02:21 PM
2

Don't fret too hard, inarguable science doesn't happen without mountains of evidence; they have none. Standards for psyche have been a sore point for awhile now, it is likely to get more rigorous soon.
/r/TheRedPill24/07/15 01:45 PM
52

Your friend is a neurologist; an actual scientist. We are talking about psychologists; they are not. Big difference.
/r/TheRedPill24/07/15 01:39 PM
3

med school isn't exactly known for producing competent individuals I assume you mispoke. Unless sounding like an idiot is on purpose.
/r/TheRedPill24/07/15 02:56 AM
5

Well in their case they have husbands, which I introduced them to. Still friends. It's possible.
/r/TheRedPill23/07/15 05:56 PM
14

What I actually think? I think that women both want to date, and want to be, caricatures of real people. They are so heavily influenced by trends and media that they simply adopt whatever archetype they wish. Since most popular archetypes don't include things like math they will gleefully announce ignorance of it, almost as a celebration to herself of how well she is playing the part. Real people accrue a mishmash of skills and interests that are sometimes even dichotomous; this reflects the gro…
/r/TheRedPill23/07/15 04:41 PM
46

Questionable delivery, but the sentiment holds true.
/r/TheRedPill23/07/15 04:29 PM
21

I actually have to disagree a bit. I have a few girls I am genuinely friends with. Now there are some big qualifiers on that. These are girls that have actually had some real suffering in their lives to help them learn about the real world, and that I have known for over a decade. I think in general the rule holds, but there are exceptions.
/r/TheRedPill23/07/15 04:28 PM
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All the men who I know in long term relationships do the cooking. I myself am nothing special, but I have probably only dated a handful of girls I would say cook better than I do. Most of them seem to have some weird pride in not cooking. It's in the same tone they mention not knowing about computers, math, or world events.
/r/TheRedPill23/07/15 03:32 PM
1

I see women's appreciation of vulnerability and humor to be similar; low level. Most girls still love candy and fart jokes. They never grow past it. Similarly, they never grew to understand their own deeper emotions enough to truly appreciate someone else's; so superficial things they could have understood at 14 is about as deep as they wanna go.
/r/TheRedPill23/07/15 02:49 PM
2

Spot on. The attitude is mostly accepted though, even by new recruits; all the dangers and benefits of guru-ism apply. Not that sub is ruined or anything..but it is a bit of a fine line to walk. It is important to be mindful of it
/r/TheRedPill22/07/15 12:07 PM
2

They found the results statistically significant, which means it was numerically "non trivial" but yes, without the actual numbers it could a gigantic range.
/r/TheRedPill21/07/15 03:07 AM
7

I respect where you are going with this post, but there are some issues. A 2004 study in the American Journal of Criminal Justice found women to be more likely to acquit men accused of rape. How much more likely? The difference of 5 percent and 50 is massive. The only reasons I can think of for this is that women are not as influenced by the Women are Wonderful effect as men are. The exact opposite actually. The results, which agreed with the “women are wonderful” effect, showed that while both …
/r/TheRedPill21/07/15 03:04 AM
4

There's nothing worse than reading the writing of an English major
/r/TheRedPill15/07/15 03:30 PM
1

I don't think you are unusual at all, but all you have to do is look at the use of porn to know it would be a game changer. Lots of men have already decided porn is "good enough" to withdraw from placating women; what happens when porn gets upgraded while women's demands continue to rise? They will price themselves out of the market for a non trivial segment of the population.
/r/TheRedPill15/07/15 01:32 PM
2

Well said. I find most people who identify both with an extreme position and dichotomous thinking have this same problem; they make the exact mistake their "opponents" are making.
/r/TheRedPill15/07/15 01:08 PM
2

RP has kind of a hard on for religious girls, for a few different reasons. I think it is important to realize that they are just as much woman as any other; they simply subscribe to an extra economy. Namely, a shame structure that limits them from behavior that RP tends to dislike in LTRs. All of this is fine, but aside from the few true believers (very rare) these women are only as good as their circumstance (like most people). Act accordingly.
/r/TheRedPill15/07/15 01:00 PM
1

Girls like tall guys. Hopefully this is not news to you. Some people get way too dramatic about this fact, but the core of it, that being short is not in your favor, is true. Just gotta work on what you can work on.
/r/TheRedPill15/07/15 12:54 PM
3

You have obviously spent a lot of time reading seduction community posts; the style and terminology is as direct as it gets. Glad you are getting out there though. Keep it up
/r/TheRedPill13/07/15 10:17 PM
7

I am in a similar boat. My main cause for optimism is that, at its core, RP is about not flinching from hard truths, and as long as that remains true, I can find a place here. I think the strong majority of posters are committed to that maxim, and I happen to believe the lesser undercurrents of the sub will be selected out over time due to this. And honestly, if you ever find yourself somewhere that you agree with everyone 100%, you should leave it anyway. Real boats rock.
/r/TheRedPill13/07/15 04:09 PM
3

Be prepared for a bit of a slog. While I think she is obviously intelligent, I don't find her to be a particularly good writer. You may dig into her essays rather than her fictional work, to see how she resonates with you.
/r/TheRedPill13/07/15 03:33 PM
2

I borrow the phrasing from Ayn Rand. While I don't consider her philosophy bullet proof, she has a lot of interesting things to say. Some Google searches will find essays on the subject, if you are interested.
/r/TheRedPill13/07/15 02:51 PM
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For the most part, simply internalizing RP principles and overlaying it on existing "self help" stuff makes a lot of those kinds of posts redundant. While I myself rather enjoy them anyway, I can see the logic in not including them.
/r/TheRedPill13/07/15 02:48 PM
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Presumably you care about the girl. While you can't fix what happened, you can at least try not to pile on. The relationship is likely doomed but she may need a bit of time to really internalize that. I think coasting for a month isn't too much to ask considering the circumstances.
/r/TheRedPill13/07/15 02:41 PM
5

Im fairly sure the same is true in the long term as well, if you measure success as pure personal benefit. However, the opportunists generally dont build anything, either. They are looters rather than creators. I think the benevolent types usually think it is both possible and desirable to try to leave things better than they found them.
/r/TheRedPill13/07/15 02:38 PM
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While this is probably the end result, I think it would be callous to do it immediately. Sometimes a little humanity is in order
/r/TheRedPill13/07/15 01:05 PM
24

It's very seldom one or the other completely. TRP bemoans the total lack of agency on the part of women, and then proceeds to attribute every single horrible act women commit as being the fault of the guy for not holding frame, not being Alpha enough, etc. In my mind, at least, this has more to do with giving actionable advice than anything. You can only control your side of the equation. It sacrifices some of its absolute truth score, but sometimes it can be more useful that way.
/r/TheRedPill13/07/15 11:01 AM
2

It made the front page yesterday, when I posted it. This guy totally ripped it off word for word
/r/TheRedPill11/07/15 03:34 AM
1

I chose those words (when I posted it yesterday) because I felt like it was more compelling. I guess the reposter agreed as he didn't change a thing. I wanted people to actually watch the video, and that seemed a better way.
/r/TheRedPill11/07/15 12:24 AM
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I'm actually the guy that posted it yesterday in TIL, and got it big. It hit like 4k karma and 2k comments yesterday. I guess I should be flattered. Of course, if won't show up in a search as the mods ripped it down, but it still exists if you check my post history
/r/TheRedPill11/07/15 12:21 AM
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My background is biology, I'm aware of these principals. Treating such a crash as inevitable ensure it will be the worst version of that crash it can be. But as I said, all of this has been argued before. It is your list, and you can do with it what you will. I just felt compelled to point out that it is a very questionable video in general, and an odd choice for redpill material in particular. Otherwise, it seems a great post.
/r/TheRedPill09/07/15 11:34 PM
1

This is true, but will happen eventually regardless. The population can't grow indefinitely. We can either exercise some control over the the stabilizing or just increase population until a crash does it for us. This isn't a new problem, it has been in the pipeline for some time.
/r/TheRedPill09/07/15 06:02 PM
2

So agreeing to a monogamous LTR is essentially succumbing to the woman's frame: Monogamy.... until she's ready for other dick. I hadn't really thought of it that way before, but you are right. I think an LTR situation with tacit acceptance of limited prowling by the man are probably the most stable long term. I'm reminded of the old school idea of mistresses, or that one baskeball player whose wife gave him a "one cheat a year" card to use. It is at least a compromise of sorts, rather than oscil…
/r/TheRedPill09/07/15 02:16 PM
2

I hope you told her. I mean fuck her and all that, but be a bro to all those other guys and tip her off that she needs to visit the clinic.
/r/TheRedPill09/07/15 01:56 PM
2

Depends. Do you want to "win" or do you want to possibly have her learn from her mistakes? Many won't be able to intuit what they did wrong, they would need to be told. I mean you won't get any benefit from her education, but someone down the line might. Do you think the half decent girls you have met with a modicum of self awareness fell out of the womb that way? I realize it is a bit of a hail mary, but I think it's worthwhile to throw the ball. All it costs you is some smug satisfaction.
/r/TheRedPill09/07/15 01:09 PM
2

Examines the population decline, especially in the west. The fertility rate has dropped below the replacement rate around the world. This is true for some individual populations. For the world population it isn't true at all. People getting older is not a problem ecologically. The population must stabilize, and an older demographic is the inevitable consequence of the increasing quality of healthcare. The only solution (have more babies) is not a solution. It is simply handing the same problem t…
/r/TheRedPill08/07/15 06:35 PM
0

I would remove at least the first section of Demographic Winter from the list. The central claim, that global population is shrinking, is demonstrably false. What it means is that the population of white people is shrinking. This is nativism, not science. I have argued this point before, but sense didn't win out then, and I suspect it won't win out now; I simply need to point out that it is wrong.
/r/TheRedPill08/07/15 06:19 PM
1

another man who isn't her family I would argue even men in her family count. Not for sexual reasons, obviously, but make no mistake; she doesn't talk about being daddy's princess because she is tired of it. She wants you to continue that horseshit tradition. In a sense it is dread game: her brothers/father will basically be there for her forever, and the bar they set (which she probably made up) is one of the many you are being measured by.
/r/TheRedPill08/07/15 04:17 PM
1

This is not meant to race bait, but the numbers for herpes are greatly inflated by the black community. While the black community comes in at about 42 percent infection, white and Hispanics have more like 11 and 13 percent. So if you happen to like black girls, or are seeing girls that like black men, you might have more cause for concern, at least strictly going by the numbers
/r/TheRedPill08/07/15 10:30 AM
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For a lot of people, their first love is what they'll always remember. For me it's always been the first hate, and I think that hatred, though it provides often rather junky energy, is a terrific way of getting you out of bed in the morning and keeping you going. -Christopher Hitchens While you aren't wrong, hate won't last forever; it exhausts you eventually. You will have to find another wall between the bullet and yourself at some point.
/r/TheRedPill29/06/15 11:42 AM
1

If the girl wants to do things for me, great. I wouldn't be able to have her supplicants doing that though. Just feels too dirty.
/r/TheRedPill26/06/15 04:22 PM
3

That's an interesting thing. Most guys have a lot of the broad strokes buried in their psyche somewhere, because their brains work. It is basically all the contrary social programming that starts muddling the process early on and creating the sad sack we see so often. All of us are the result of hundreds of successful generations of sperm. Our bones know how to succeed at this.
/r/TheRedPill26/06/15 02:22 PM
10

Exactly correct. Most people come here because of a lack/frustration with women, and so most of the conversation is centered on that. But at its core its about learning to make yourself happy, and once you have corrected the glaring deficiencies sometimes you might find out it isn't the only thing you care about anymore.
/r/TheRedPill26/06/15 02:13 PM
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She's literally eating free all weekend and all she had to do was boot up Plenty of Fish and let some dudes buy her shit. I will be totally honest, I'm totally jealous that hot women can do this. Sometimes when I see the amount of free shit, extreme consideration, and just overall 1st class citizen treatment attractive women get it is a little much, even as someone who is in on the joke, so to speak. Its like being born into old money or something. Just luck of the genetic lottery.
/r/TheRedPill26/06/15 01:59 PM
0

Generally, if someone is trying this hard to be alpha, it is very obvious to anyone with any sense at all.
/r/TheRedPill25/06/15 06:58 PM
13

I would have done the same. He seems to have treated you nothing but good. Being that concerned with the balance of power is lame and beta as hell. You did something you said you wouldn't, apologized, you both moved on.
/r/TheRedPill25/06/15 06:55 PM
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That's kind of you to offer this. In longer relationships especially, I find a lot of men don't have much of a friend group outside their girlfriend. I mean, they might know guys they catch a game with or something, but no one they can really talk about this stuff with. This sub helps, but the more human the contact, the better. We should mention that more alongside lift etc. "Develop male friendships."
/r/TheRedPill25/06/15 01:54 PM
1

I would say we don't need to shut it down, so much as just stop giving it an automatic pass. The recent post about South American women being RP brides is a pretty good one in this vein, I think.
/r/TheRedPill24/06/15 02:09 PM
2

As often as I hear TRP proclaim to face hard truths, (which I will say is usually accurate) it absolutely has its own hamster. This is science worth noting from a man of note, yet it has downvotes and no comments. Good post, regardless.
/r/TheRedPill24/06/15 01:39 PM
1

Actually, it seems that you need to re-read Atlas Shrugged. If you don't want to give something to anyone, I'm in no way advocating it be taken from you; I support guarding your energies against parasites in the world. But there is also nothing wrong with using your judgement to help other if you deem it a worthy cause. Demonizing charity is only necessary if you lack the ability to evaluate context and particulars on a case by case basis. It is, in short, lazy.
/r/TheRedPill24/06/15 01:29 PM
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Note what I said was an absolutely selfish society wouldn't have made it this far. You managed to misquote me. There is nothing wrong with self interest. It simply shouldn't be the only guidepost. A society completely unselfish wouldn't have made it this far, either.
/r/TheRedPill23/06/15 07:01 PM
1

I'm not sure if you meant this reply for me or not. The quoted part is referencing the post above; my own post says something along the lines of yours
/r/TheRedPill23/06/15 07:00 PM
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Certainly selfishness is a driving factor (and good thing), but to pretend it is the only one is ridiculous. An absolutely selfish society never would have made it this far. Not to say absolutely selfish people can't exist and thrive in the world, just that generally speaking their mindset wouldn't have created what they are taking advantage of. The most selfish people are very rarely the most able.
/r/TheRedPill23/06/15 03:13 PM
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Good post. I will, however, point out that the post is itself somewhat guilty of its own criticism: why be moral when there is no benefit to be gained? If no one is there to witness good work and assign you value from it, why do it at all? I would say some of us do the "right" thing because of a value system we choose. While I can understand that you must guard your energy against parasites, there are those that may deserve your consideration, and sometimes those same people are going to give yo…
/r/TheRedPill23/06/15 01:40 PM
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You see a turbo version of this in military wives. The military already encourages everyone to be part time bureaucrats, and the wives know as much about it as anyone. I have been privvy to multiple round table discussions where the newlywed woman is inducted into the cardinal do's and don'ts of getting the most out of the man/government. When to have children, how long you need to stay married to get a piece of his retirement, the ways you can hurt your own claim, all of it. It's like a coven o…
/r/TheRedPill23/06/15 06:08 AM
1

I understand the narrative we have here, but I need you to cite a study for that
/r/TheRedPill20/06/15 05:47 PM
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A great article. He really seems to have done his homework. My thoughts on the matter, though biased, are that the root cause is the accepted primacy of politics over science/reason. It isn't as important as something actually be true, as long as you can get people to get agree with you that it is. So practically everything becomes some version of a propaganda campaign; things like climate change or the age of the earth are suddenly up for debate, while most of the debaters don't realize they la…
/r/TheRedPill16/06/15 04:24 PM
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While women's age is a better studied detriment, recent science shows that aging mens sperms carries a lot of risk factors as well. As per your example, it wouldn't really be necessary to wait to see genetic viability anyway; better historical data and more advanced genetic knowledge should make all that apparent practically at birth.
/r/TheRedPill16/06/15 03:01 PM
1

Make a post with some substance and I will bother responding to it
/r/TheRedPill13/06/15 11:08 AM
0

There are certainly options for some resources; that is one. Asteroids do not solve every problem.
/r/TheRedPill12/06/15 08:37 PM
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It isn't my homework. Food is not the only concern. If you think that link "solves" food production I have a bridge to sell you.
/r/TheRedPill12/06/15 08:36 PM
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it's all created by a tiny percentage of deviant smart people. This is so true it hurts. Most people's work is just something that keeps them busy until they die.
/r/TheRedPill12/06/15 08:32 PM
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I am not talking about only food. There are many other finite resources that go into an American standard of living. If it was just a matter of feeding everyone, we simply stop eating meat. There, done deal, add a few more billion.
/r/TheRedPill12/06/15 07:42 PM
1

I notice you failed to cite any research.
/r/TheRedPill12/06/15 04:57 PM
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I know RP likes to think of itself as the last bastion of civilization against the literal cosmic destroyer that is feminism, but by and large people aren't idiots. Many people simply lack the ability to disagree with their own emotions, including the people on this sub. If you can divorce the emotional connotations, you can usually get a fairly decent response out of people. This is easier said than done, however.
/r/TheRedPill12/06/15 04:51 PM
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I'm not going to bother responding to this unless you cite some scientific data supporting it. That I can address. My experience has been that no matter how much data I would throw at you, you would just say "liberal propaganda" and ignore it. Its not worth the trouble.
/r/TheRedPill12/06/15 04:15 PM
5

I have some bias in this, but I believe a "feminizing" of words/expression/writing is partly to blame for the situation we are in politically. We allow conversations to be framed for us in certain ways, and those that are in the know about how to use language see this for what it is: manipulation. Those who don't know (most people) have their thoughts put on rails to follow the narrative that is poured into their ear. Meanwhile, many men are content (even shamed into!) being inexpressive and sta…
/r/TheRedPill12/06/15 03:47 PM
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Some people actually have a desire to try to leave the world better than they found it. You stand in a world created by ancestors with the same basic idea. You are welcome.
/r/TheRedPill12/06/15 03:34 PM
9

I see the "population decline" posited as a boogeyman on TRP quite a bit, and what is really being said is that the "wrong" people are being born. In this case, wrong usually being non-white people. I mean world population is increasing, to the tune of about 10 billion by 2050. Ignoring all the social/political posturing about those numbers, the simple fact is that ecologically they aren't sustainable at anything approaching the American standard of living. The current population couldn't be sus…
/r/TheRedPill12/06/15 03:28 PM
3

I am reminded of this Heinlein quote : "It is impossible for a man to love his wife wholeheartedly without loving all women somewhat. I suppose that the converse must be true of women."
/r/TheRedPill12/06/15 01:16 PM
3

Essentially, /u/skoobled is correct in a political/economic sense. At least, this is the common argument. I would answer that this answer is also the problem; it was foolish to institute such a system in the first place, and the "crash" you allude to is simply pushed forward in time and intensity when we ignore the fairly simple fact you have laid out. When it comes down to it though, since the baby boomers, people seem far more inclined to foist ecological/financial debt upon the upcoming gener…
/r/TheRedPill10/06/15 02:12 PM
1

His frame was strong, and the dialogue pretty sweet and all, but this. If he didn't have a gun he would've been stomped into the ground.
/r/TheRedPill09/06/15 05:42 PM
18

Always Be Closing. I would add an addendum to this that you should be judicious with your "dating service time." If you can't follow through with these confident closes, sometimes it is best not to be making them until you can. Meaning, I don't like to lay it on some girl on a Tuesday night when you need to do xyz and can't meet her until Thursday. This greatly increases the likelihood she flakes etc. I'm trying to get her caught up in the novelty of the whirlwind and ride it all the way to her …
/r/TheRedPill09/06/15 05:24 PM
3

Thank you for doing this. Not only are you bothering at all, but your responses are very thoughtful. It is appreciated.
/r/TheRedPill09/06/15 12:57 PM
2

Holdren belives himself to be a member of the enlightened few atop the golden pyramid with the all seeing eye And TRP is any different? Believing yourself part of the "elite" does not inherently make you wrong. In the most direct, ecological sense, he is right; human reproduction will have to be managed in the future. Now there are myriad ways this could happen. Tighter birth control, incentivizing lower birth rates, or better application of market forces and the real costs of reproduction, to n…
/r/TheRedPill05/06/15 08:42 AM
1

I'm curious what you think happened only 5 years ago that turned it on its head. I would also like to know when these golden days supposedly were.
/r/TheRedPill29/05/15 06:15 PM
5

It's like hacking the matrix. Unfortunately for most of us, that mutation skipped us over
/r/TheRedPill29/05/15 04:48 PM
40

It isn't even fucking fat women that is the problem; practically everyone has banged a chubby girl at some point. The problem is giving them attention/relationship despite the fat. The reformed fat girls I know have both (there are only two) said they got fed up with being the 2am safe bet for a cavalcade of cocks. All those dicks apparently drilled some sense into them because they realized the reality of the situation and fixed their shit. Truth be told a reformed fat girl is one of the best b…
/r/TheRedPill29/05/15 04:41 PM
3

Incidentally, in that Patrice video they stumble on Amy Schumer around 22:00. They are talking about how hot she is. Facepalm
/r/TheRedPill29/05/15 03:18 PM
14

I have been downvoted on here before for saying the same. Tina Fey can hang with the best of them. But it is also true that being an attractive woman gives her advantages over other comics when their comic merit is roughly equal. But that's life in general, and women get to take advantage of that more often than men do. I sometimes wonder that this is one of the pillars supporting hate against TRP; men aren't supposed to be allowed to use sex and attraction to get things we want, that is woman's…
/r/TheRedPill29/05/15 02:06 PM
2

Though thankfully lessening, there is still a lot of social pressure for men to get married. I mean, we are TRP, and there are few things more sanctioned here than bashing marriage, but a lot of men have never been in a social environment that would even allow the idea of nonmarriage to exist. Not entertained and then denied, but literally the idea is never even on the table. This is why it is almost amusing when people hear it for the first time; it smacks of novelty. Absolutely do not make the…
/r/TheRedPill28/05/15 12:51 PM
2

These are essentially mindfulness exercises, of which there are a million. As someone who has had to deal with depression a few times, these type of exercises were more helpful than therapy. Without going on a rant about it, I can say these kinds of exercises are one of the few things in life I have found to be infinitely linear in their improvement to your life. As in, the more you do it, the better off you are, without a point of diminishing returns I have found. It is something of a panacea. …
/r/TheRedPill22/05/15 04:21 PM
3

I don't think anyone is advocating taking their advice about much of anything. My point was simply not to demonize them. Some people use blue as an incredible insult, and at least in that context, I don't think MRAs deserve that at all.
/r/TheRedPill22/05/15 04:15 PM
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I think one of the central differences of MRA and TRP, aside from the actual goals, is the frame from which the conversation happens. MRA tries to play into the existing social paradigm which has largely been designed by and for women. To an extent they portray the part of the victim (which is essentially true), because that is how the conversation has been defined. I think this where a lot of the blue flags come from. The problem is that part of the multitude of privileges afforded women is to …
/r/TheRedPill22/05/15 03:25 PM
-9

You seem pretty hung up on Jews. You might wanna get over that.
/r/TheRedPill21/05/15 11:53 PM
2

Perhaps if you limit the conversation to "bigger," you are right, but I am more concerned with "better." Material wealth, standard of living, health care available etc. The 10k portrait quote is to illustrate the chasm that can exist between 2 numerically identifical GDPs.
/r/TheRedPill21/05/15 04:06 PM
6

Sorry if I spend pedantic, but I have significant issue with how economic success is measured; I rather like this quote to point at the absurdity of it: " If I wanted to, I could hire 10,000 people to do nothing but paint my picture every day for the rest of my life. And the GNP would go up. But the utility of the product would be zilch, and I would be keeping those 10,000 people from doing AIDS research, or teaching, or nursing." -Warren Buffet
/r/TheRedPill21/05/15 03:34 PM
2

Aside from disagreeing with almost this entire post, I will say that world population needs to decrease. Nearly every big problem has connections, some direct, to overpopulation.
/r/TheRedPill21/05/15 06:59 AM
2

I feel like you really get hung up on semantics
/r/TheRedPill21/05/15 06:56 AM
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What is it with girls typing like total fucking retards now? I mean I know the bar is lower in general but this is like 4th grade hello kitty shit.
/r/TheRedPill20/05/15 10:57 AM
1

I'm actually thinking the bushings on my control arm or sway bar need replacing. Any advice?
/r/TheRedPill12/05/15 05:45 PM
6

The health profession is by its nature extremely conservative. Doctors will mostly tell you the same things. They have to minimize liability, to the detriment of your care. Not to excuse your mother. Just that she is pretty much the norm.
/r/TheRedPill12/05/15 05:44 PM
69

I really support this. Growing up my step dad was a mechanic, a good one, by several accounts. My mother, sadly, banned him from passing any of this onto me, for fear I would take to it and "end up like him." I'm willing to bet more than a few of us had emasculating mothers like this. As I have grown older, and especially lately, I truly wish I had learned a few things. Just within the context of car repairs I have managed to save myself several thousand dollars via research and gumption. Who kn…
/r/TheRedPill12/05/15 03:12 PM
1

You hear about the sky falling all the time on this sub. Sometimes there's an element of truth to it, but in this case I don't think so. And even if it did, so what? There are a lot of backup plans in place, and even if they were to all fall through it would all come together organically again, same as how it happened initially. I have a lot of respect for this sub, but viewing it as the only source of Holy Truth is doing yourself a disservice.
/r/TheRedPill08/05/15 09:19 AM
6

That video really is no credit to you. I mean the guy opens with insults about being "a follower or Darwin." What, like a biologist?
/r/TheRedPill08/05/15 01:42 AM
10

I have no idea what he was saying
/r/TheRedPill28/04/15 01:33 AM
23

My understanding is there is some significant extra money to be had, deployed as a married man. Maybe pick a bro and marry him on paper for the time you are gone?
/r/TheRedPill25/04/15 03:05 PM
2

Essentially, yes. At least, relative to scale. The amount of lineage he had selecting for those skills is far greater than for navigating health insurance plans and the like. The speed at which the world changes is increasing. I don't make the comparison as a cop out; simply that the context has changed some. Our task is still to succeed regardless.
/r/TheRedPill24/04/15 02:18 PM
2

You want to flesh that question out a little more?
/r/TheRedPill24/04/15 01:06 PM
9

Yeah there are a lot of holes in this kind of thinking. The modern world has much different kinds of threats than man used to. We are tasked with retaining their visceral masculinity while at the same time navigating waters that are simply alien to our genetics. Not impossible, but our challenges and Genghis' are not the same.
/r/TheRedPill24/04/15 01:06 PM
2

I described him once as some kind of computer program that was cobbling together buzz words and other material to create his posts. Strange capitalization, not ever really answering a question directly, that sort of thing. By and large I have made my peace with it, but I can't get over the just weird vibe I get from him. Glad to see I'm not the only one to notice this.
/r/TheRedPill24/04/15 01:02 PM
20

I think part of the red pill is actually coming to grips with how shitty you are as a person, not just women. It is somewhat out of the scope of this sub, but whether you choose to use this info to improve yourself or to justify degeneration has consequences for your personal growth. I mean, no one can (or should) save everyone. But neither should you be part of the problem.
/r/TheRedPill23/04/15 03:28 PM
4

Well said. I know everyone around here is convinced feminism is making the sky fall, but I do think there will be a correction eventually. How long that takes, and how much damage is done is really the only variable.
/r/TheRedPill20/04/15 03:13 PM
12

Depending on where you live, a lot of taboo subjects are declassified due to demographics. For example, I live in Texas, and most places people dont even blink if you rip on liberals, and the opposite is true in New York. The saturation is so strong, that you might have a contrary viewpoint doesn't even occur to them. Though girls in college are pretty much the only ones who usually feel that confident in the SJW angle to bring it up like a personality trait on a date. I wonder sometimes if that…
/r/TheRedPill17/04/15 03:47 PM
17

In fairness, I am willing to bet most women would simply posit that "most men" aren't worth surrendering to. Whether they are right or not is another discussion entire, but at its base it isn't that much different than how we are unwilling to LTR/marry girls that don't fit our criteria.
/r/TheRedPill17/04/15 01:15 PM
3

Nice insight. The implications are obvious when you think about it
/r/TheRedPill16/04/15 04:30 PM
11

The amount of times I have heard someone worry about "accidentally" getting muscular is absurd. If it were that easy most of the population wouldn't look like hammered dog shit.
/r/TheRedPill15/04/15 01:56 PM
9

I disagree. SS is hardly the only appropriate program, but it IS proven and straightforward. For the most part, the idea in the beginning is just to get moving in the right direction, and SS does that. Once you decide to transition, you should have a good base to work from as well.
/r/TheRedPill15/04/15 01:52 PM
7

If you do this as a strategy for sex, you are right. If you actually have a real interest in doing good for the world, there is nothing wrong with it.
/r/TheRedPill15/04/15 01:41 PM
0

My main concern with this is the child having US citizenship. Bitch as you like, but America is still the greatest nation on Earth. I would instead suggest marrying this foreign girl and then having the baby here, then perhaps relocating after a bit. Best of both worlds.
/r/TheRedPill08/04/15 02:46 PM
1

Probably true, college age or not. All you can do is build a trail of breadcrumbs that she might pick up during a bout of sentience.
/r/TheRedPill07/04/15 04:28 PM
1

I have seen this kind of thing make a difference, but not often. The main thing you have to remember is that you won't get to see the fruits of this corrective action. Those will be given to someone in the future, if at all. I still think it can be worth doing anyway, but it is a gift you are giving to someone else, not yourself.
/r/TheRedPill07/04/15 01:12 PM
4

What the hell is it with people using weird capitalization? Is that one guys alt or something?
/r/TheRedPill06/04/15 06:11 PM
1

I would say I mostly agree with this post, but make the qualifier that sales is excellent to work on your game/pua skills, which is subtly different than RP. I say this as someone who has spent several years in sales; there are a lot of people who are successful who are beta as all fuck. While some can take a critical eye to themselves and grow as men, many simply learn that if they just mass numbers (approaches) and tell the right lies they can snag the sale. Hell, they both even encourage usin…
/r/TheRedPill03/04/15 02:14 PM
1

I saw what you said. It is still a horrible, horrible idea. Best case scenario you still have to go to court to play Matlock if she wants to be a bitch. It goes without saying that weird shit like this is not looked upon kindly by judges, who already would love to nail you to a cross as it were. Even if you get away with it, why bring that kind of heat in your life for some pussy you should have been over years ago? It is poor risk assessment, and poor cost/benefit analysis. Abundance mentality.
/r/TheRedPill02/04/15 10:49 PM
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Any woman you would suspect of this kind of behavior should be given as few handholds on you as humanly possible. The risk is defcon 1 (edit: me no know defcons) while the reward is what, revisiting some old pussy? Just get a different girl. Fuck even a prostitute is light years cheaper than another child support payment.
/r/TheRedPill02/04/15 10:18 PM
11

This sounds nuclear level moronic.
/r/TheRedPill02/04/15 10:00 PM
1

I have to disagree. There are a lot of seduction people that get way more clinical than anything I have ever seen in TRP. I think the actual difference is that the seduction folks are much more tightly focused in their mission, while TRP is more holistic. Both have a place, though I think in the long run you will get more out of TRP.
/r/TheRedPill31/03/15 06:59 PM
5

In fairness, all people are like that. Women just have a tighter grouping of what "that" is, and a lower bar to catalyze it. Men, under the right circumstances, will act horribly too. But it usually takes a lot more, and the extent of the damage we do is usually contained.
/r/TheRedPill24/03/15 03:25 AM
2

I'm aware of what a papaya is. The point being, the fact that they are natural carries no weight.
/r/TheRedPill24/03/15 12:01 AM
4

It sounds a little sci fi, but I think an even larger game changer will be some kind of effective "truth telling" technology. Criminal justice and relationship dynamics would change overnight.
/r/TheRedPill23/03/15 03:33 PM
6

Not to be a jerk, but saying something is "natural" is almost meaningless. Some natural things are great, some kill you.
/r/TheRedPill23/03/15 03:30 PM
0

Though I'm not as upset about it, I can essentially back up what OP is saying. I have dated more than one girl who did makeup professionally. Women just generally have a more developed aesthetic sense than guys. Some women, like makeup artists, are the people these girls go to for the best technique/product/advice. They are as far beyond a normal girl as a girl is from a normal guy. The things I have seen them pull off would really surprise you. Now, this is just makeup, not ass inserts etc, but…
/r/TheRedPill23/03/15 03:02 PM
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I have always leaned a bit towards MGTOW, but putting this much time/energy into women sounds awful to me. Not to rag on those who do this; do your thing. If anything I'm impressed by your commitment.
/r/TheRedPill23/03/15 01:34 PM
1

Though for purposes of rhetoric AF /BB gets thrown around a lot, the truth is every relationship that lasts any amount of time has elements of both.The trick is getting your ratios right. Of course, almost everyone who comes here has done so due to a lack of alpha rather than beta, so that's the dialogue you tend to see. I would concern myself less with what acronym a particular relationship falls into, and more with calibrating where you want it to be.
/r/TheRedPill23/03/15 07:30 AM
1

And I suspect a very short review
/r/TheRedPill23/03/15 04:37 AM
1

They aren't too different things. They are the same thing
/r/TheRedPill22/03/15 11:32 PM
1

I always thought it strange so many people insist on antagonism on this. You can dovetail both things if that is your inclination
/r/TheRedPill22/03/15 11:25 PM
1

Please go ahead and write up your paper on why evolution is bunk. You would win a Nobel prize
/r/TheRedPill22/03/15 11:23 PM
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I suspect this wiIl be an unpopular opinion, but I think it's a great idea. There are a lot of kids already out there who could use a good man in their life. I will also say though, it will probably be tough to adopt as a single man.
/r/TheRedPill22/03/15 03:05 PM
11

-Frank Herbert, Dune series Which is really recommended reading by the way. The absolutely fucking merciless intellectualism and the Machiavellian characters are a sight to behold. Dune and Lord of the Rings are the giants of sci fi and fantasy. Practically everything is derivative of them. Note though, the prequels/sequels written by his son are largely considered to be garbage, rightly.
/r/TheRedPill20/03/15 06:40 PM
10

One of the most RP things I think the community tends to ignore is this kind of benevolence from a place of power. Kindness is not inherently weakness.
/r/TheRedPill17/03/15 02:18 PM
1

I think self deprecation is useful, but it must be uses sparingly and in the right context. I like the idea of putting it in a pair tension with an action that challenges the statement. For example, "I feel shy" I could see working at a bar if you just adroitly handled an interaction, or are able to simply ooze confidence. Hell, it's probably even true; most performers still get stage fright every time.
/r/TheRedPill16/03/15 12:13 PM
1

I know Tina Fey did. With SNL and their respective shows etc they probably haven't been very active on the circuit in awhile. I mean why would they be? Now, they probably got a bazillion extra opportunities due to being mildly attractive women, but they are at least funny. I feel like it would be hard to take that away from them.
/r/TheRedPill14/03/15 04:33 AM
2

Well, if you take the comment above at face value, men wrote the script in this case, not women. Which doesn't make it particularly interesting to me at all. But others may. I would just suggest they take it with a grain of salt.
/r/TheRedPill14/03/15 04:24 AM
5

Well said. I feel sometimes the confirmation bias in this sub is a bit much. The RP principles hold true enough in daily life that we dont need to shoehorn them.
/r/TheRedPill14/03/15 01:55 AM
2

I disagree. They certainly sacrifice some feminity to do it though. I mean Tina Fey is funny. Amy Pohler? There aren't a lot but there are some.
/r/TheRedPill13/03/15 09:41 PM
13

I would say it will matter, but in the grand scheme won't change things that much. It's basically upgraded masturbating. I think the same dynamic in our psyches that tends to make masturbating less fulfilling will probably apply here as well. Its always hard to guess the full impact of a new technology though. I would love it if it basically functions as ultra dread game for women at large. Then they might have to actually develop traits that are desirable other than having been born with a vagi…
/r/TheRedPill12/03/15 05:42 PM
4

I agree with your post but I think you meant to respond to the dude above me
/r/TheRedPill12/03/15 05:31 PM
6

Like I said, I can't pinpoint it. It just feels off somehow. I'm not really saying I disagree just..something about the presentation? He uses a lot of buzzwords and such. Like an computer algorithm
/r/TheRedPill12/03/15 05:26 PM
7

I can't really pinpoint what it is, but I find myself a little unsettled by this guy's posts
/r/TheRedPill12/03/15 04:28 PM
1

While I think there are some good points here, at the end of the day Facebook and the like fill these niches for women almost as well as dating sites. Personally, I have fucking slayed in online dating. I don't know if maybe I'm better looking than I thought, or if my game is tighter than others, but it has been great for me. I almost never get flakes, and I can count on one hand the number of dates I have gone on that were one offs that didn't lead to sex. Most of the time though, I don't even …
/r/TheRedPill09/03/15 05:05 AM
7

He responded with at least some light content. I saw another well known poster here get to the top of a thread the other day with zero content at all. TRP can be as circle jerky as any other sub if we aren't vigilant against it. It's about the content, not the voice. If newbies have something to add there's no reason they shouldn't.
/r/TheRedPill09/03/15 04:39 AM
12

I enjoy your posts generally, but for this to be next to top with zero content seems strange. We must always try to be vigilant against circle jerking.
/r/TheRedPill05/03/15 06:05 PM
21

Looter mentality. There is a difference between saving society, and trying not be part of the problem. One requires active effort, the other simply requires a bit of consideration.
/r/TheRedPill02/03/15 12:24 AM
10

You see this in politics a lot. The other side isn't just wrong; they are lying. To paraphrase, never attribute to malice which can be explained by stupidity. Most women just aren't terribly self aware, so their opinions suffer as a result. But to couch it as dishonesty smacks too much of conspiracy and purpose. I think most of then believe the nonsense that comes out of their mouths, they are just wrong.
/r/TheRedPill02/03/15 12:16 AM
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Hard work can beat talent if talent gets lazy. Hard working talent rules the game though. The 6'4 Adonis who works roughly as hard as you will win everytime. Luckily, this doesn't happen very often.
/r/TheRedPill02/03/15 12:11 AM
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I bet she works very hard to be a good wife, for one. Don't underestimate that in a world that has traded cooking and cleaning for occasional blow jobs. Maybe he just truly enjoys her company. I think that is an overlooked alpha trait; the ability to say "enough." If you are forever chasing the dragon, whether women or money etc, you are really acting like hypergamous women at a basic level. I mean, we are revealing a bit of our own hamster even asking the question aren't we? We are confounded b…
/r/TheRedPill01/03/15 04:47 PM
9

You aren't wrong, but the sexual component is such a large part of the grade that failing it is failing the test entire. Other qualities are valued, but you have to pass some basic level of sexual worth before they are even taken into account
/r/TheRedPill01/03/15 03:48 PM
6

Fuck that "never apologize" rule. If you feel like apologizing then fucking apologize. It wont make you less alpha unless you are fetching for validation from others. Seriously. You know what's not alpha? Obviously trying way too fucking hard.
/r/TheRedPill27/02/15 06:31 PM
2

I'm going to need a source for Jefferson modeling America to the purpose of maximizing masculinity.
/r/TheRedPill27/02/15 06:28 PM
2

Men create and women consume. That extrapolates out to most things if you care to apply it. Pick the side you want to be on.
/r/TheRedPill27/02/15 06:17 PM
3

As awesome as Patrice is, I wish there was a lot less shouting over each other.
/r/TheRedPill27/02/15 04:44 PM
3

Err..not sure if troll but.. I can't speak for everyone, but I'm fairly sure as a sub we come down on the "against" side. I mean what kind of a question is that, really? As far as the specific context you mention, I absolutely think he should be banned from campus. From all campuses, really. Let him go to University of Phoenix or something. While I wouldn't bother going to the protests (there will be plenty of support I'm sure) I would absolutely support the cause. Again, speaking for myself, bu…
/r/TheRedPill26/02/15 06:21 PM
4

Exactly. Way too much effort. You can throw a logical chaff grenade to scramble her for a bit but it's not like the issue is resolved. She just shelved it for awhile.
/r/TheRedPill23/02/15 03:03 PM
2

This is absolutely one of those things someone needs to research for themselves. If your brother would test low, just go to a TRT clinic. No worries about supply there
/r/TheRedPill21/02/15 02:25 PM
4

While I respect OPs effort, this is correct. Or rather your time/money investment is poorly spent here. Lifting and eating right is going to do a thousand times more good than a cocktail of dubious supplements. If you want to go real, just inject testosterone. It WILL work, and despite what you may have heard it's fairly safe. It's even cheaper than a lot of supplements. There's just that whole illegal thing
/r/TheRedPill20/02/15 11:07 PM
1

Running isn't terribly great for you, but the risks can be managed. It's accessible to practically every one, is comparatively low cost, and extremely scalable to fitness levels. Running and crossfit are about the only things a woman is even willing to consider, so be thankful for them. Who knows how many whales would float around otherwise
/r/TheRedPill19/02/15 02:48 PM
3

This has at least as much to do with boredom as anything else. I mean, why would they fight very hard to keep any girl? Would you?
/r/TheRedPill19/02/15 12:14 AM
9

Total honesty, I wouldn't call your victory complete. She did still bring him up post bang, after all. I'm sure you know your girl talking about some other guy even if he's "just a friend" or whatever is not a positive. You got her out of there and did good damage control, but I think that's all it was. You whispered in your gf's ear, so I wouldn't call it "AMOGing" him either. You didn't challenge him publicly and win, you just pulled rank covertly before he was able to build too much momentum.…
/r/TheRedPill19/02/15 12:12 AM
3

It's a fallacy to assume there is a progression. Some may move to MGTOW, to alpha, and back again over their life. It is not "better" to be alpha, unless that person decides that is what they want. Couching it as a lesser choice is incorrect.
/r/TheRedPill18/02/15 07:55 PM
2

The jargon to substance ratio is not good
/r/TheRedPill18/02/15 06:53 PM
6

You don't understand it then
/r/TheRedPill18/02/15 06:43 PM
12

The circle jerk about alpha/beta labels is starting to detract from the conversation I think
/r/TheRedPill18/02/15 05:41 PM
0

If you are concerned about power plays in trivial tasks you are the kind of person I would simply evict from my life. You mistake me not wanting to put up with it for me not being able to.
/r/TheRedPill18/02/15 03:34 AM
1

In all these conversations and frame and alpha and whatnot it's tough because it just doesn't break down to words easily. A poster above mentioned telling his gf they were going to such and such, plan accordingly. Maybe it got carried off better than it sounds. It sounds lame to me though.
/r/TheRedPill18/02/15 03:18 AM
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I can't speak for everyone but I would shut this down immediately. I'm not negotiating about things that need doing when its trivial. People that are going to nickel and dime your social capitol and wheedle trades aren't worth my time.
/r/TheRedPill18/02/15 03:06 AM
9

Good post. "The greatest lie the Devil ever told was to convince the world he didn't exist." Managing to install in us young that we want an "equal" is women's greatest weapon. It establishes the baseline that we will always drift back to without effort to swim against it.
/r/TheRedPill17/02/15 03:33 PM
1

I'm not sure why a significant portion of TRP feels the need to talk about how feminism is making the sky fall. I mean, it sucks, but if "civilization collapses" (give me a break) there will be dozens of other factors at play.
/r/TheRedPill16/02/15 11:12 AM
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You can maybe learn all you need to know about arithmetic, not math. There is a reason practically every university in the country links math and science together in the curriculum. Again..you are just off base on this.
/r/TheRedPill16/02/15 02:17 AM
2

If you think science and math are completely opposite I'm not sure there is really any point in a conversation
/r/TheRedPill15/02/15 11:56 PM
1

As far as I'm concerned this is the best post I have ever seen on TRP. Fantastic job OP.
/r/TheRedPill15/02/15 07:15 PM
0

Ironically, the takeaway from the review is that you shouldn't study sociology. Basically, learn something where math is a heavy element. Everything else is too accessible and/or stupid.
/r/TheRedPill15/02/15 07:11 PM
2

I am basically of the opinion that all college that isn't STEM or closely tied to a trade shouldn't be funded by the government. At the end of the day college needs to give you the ability to do something people without your education simply can't. Pretty much all liberal arts, and all those soft "sciences" like psych, economics, etc are junk. I would even include law school in this.
/r/TheRedPill15/02/15 06:33 PM
3

I read a study awhile back that somewhat studied this behavior in context of craigslist. Basically, someone was "given" an item to sell. They were then made offers by anonymous sellers. A lot of them were low balls (fucking craigslist) but some were downright insulting. You don't get to "keep" the item you are selling, so rationally you would always sell, even if they are low balling the fuck out of you, since its more money than zero. What they found was that people would still hold out even th…
/r/TheRedPill15/02/15 06:04 PM
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I take it you haven't ever met one of these wonderful, rare women. He is completely right.
/r/TheRedPill15/02/15 05:48 PM
2

Good post, but I would add that you need to be having fun, and being fun, while doing these things. Don't be a dancing monkey, but if you can exude a fun vibe (and mean it) then your success rate will be much higher, and you will actually enjoy it more.
/r/TheRedPill15/02/15 04:48 PM
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Its mostly about how your frame of mind regarding this situation is. You seem to be asking from a place of "what is the best strategy," which is fine. Any sane person would, really. I would instead encourage a reevaluation of your resources. Your question poses the assumption that you have some amount of "attribute points" or what have you that are limited, and you must spend them wisely. The only absolutely iron clad limit to you is time. We all bear that yoke. If you are in the right headspace…
/r/TheRedPill15/02/15 04:45 PM
11

There are already a fair few women in biology, way fucking more than in chemistry and physics anyway. Part of this is because it is the gateway science for healthcare and the study of medicine. Part of it is because it plays more to their strengths; biology tends to be lighter on the mathematics and heavier on the pure memorization. Plus its the only real science that also has social implication. I'm not surprised they largely ignore physics and chemistry. Psychology is already infiltrated heavi…
/r/TheRedPill13/02/15 08:55 PM
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deutsche_Physik Under the rallying cry that physics should be more "German" and "Aryan," Lenard and Stark, with backing from the Nazi leadership, entered on a plan to pressure and replace physics positions at German universities with people teaching their preferred theories. By the late 1930s, there were no longer any Jewish physics professors in Germany, since under the Nuremberg Laws of 1935 Jews were not allowed to work in universities. Stark in particular was als…
/r/TheRedPill13/02/15 06:11 PM
10

This is a point I have seen lost on multiple posters here. External validation is what women crave. One of the primal differences that creates the attraction spark is that men are able to be much more internal. When you do seek validation, do it from other men, mentors. Despite the social rhetoric, women don't decide if you are a man; other men do.
/r/TheRedPill12/02/15 03:41 PM
3

GDP for the world was roughly similar throughout history until the industrial revolution. Were people not motivated by profit before the 1800's? Did business leaders not exist previously? No problem ever went unsolved for lack of enough MBAs.
/r/TheRedPill11/02/15 04:14 AM
1

This is somewhat escaping the scope of my intent, and I admit to some bias in this statement, but: My view is that the only way to meaningfully grow the pie is through science and technology. Everything else is just reappropriating the growth created by those two things. So while your piece may grow, the pie itself is basically unchanged. Which is fine, of course. Nothing wrong with doing the best you can for yourself. But I would contend most of that isn't leading to actual growth.
/r/TheRedPill10/02/15 05:20 PM
1

It isn't "unselfish," it is less selfish. The distinction is important. You can probably trust your family more generally, but it nowhere near absolute. Which is my point.
/r/TheRedPill10/02/15 05:15 PM
1

Were you emotionally underdeveloped before TRP? Are you intellectually underdeveloped if you don't understand higher order mathematics?
/r/TheRedPill10/02/15 05:10 PM
12

I'm not sure why you think family is magical in that way; familial loyalty is as much a part of the social structure as anything else. But you are right, to an extent. Most people are generally apathetic to moving humanity forward, mostly because they take our present state as a given. They don't bother to imagine a world where radio had never existed, or farming techniques made food cheap. Everyone is concerned with grabbing the biggest piece of the pie they can, while ignoring the principals t…
/r/TheRedPill10/02/15 04:13 PM
12

When men who could have made the world better for everyone are taken advantage of, we all lose. These are the people that brought us out of caves. Most of us will just fuck and walk in circles in comparison. We will possibly fulfill our biological potential, but the men moving us forward like this fulfill humanity's. Very few can be Tesla, but at the least don't be Edison.
/r/TheRedPill10/02/15 03:38 PM
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I would couch it differently than scientists having no emotional development. I think instead that socially MGTOW was just not as serious an option then. Having dedicated themselves to bettering humanity instead of chasing pussy, eventually those chickens come home to roost; they almost have to get married. And they have little to no experience on that battleground. They are easy prey. Conversely, if I threw down some of their work in front of the average man, I wouldn't accuse him of little int…
/r/TheRedPill10/02/15 03:27 PM
3

I had to talk a friend out of this, though the day of he basically forced it to happen that way anyway. I have heard this refrain other places as well; it usually is the result of one of the parties not actually having friends.
/r/TheRedPill09/02/15 01:59 PM
3

There is science supporting greater variability in male/female IQ as well.
/r/TheRedPill09/02/15 01:23 PM
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I would say both ends of the spectrum are the same levels of extreme they have always been, but they have gained more power due to the increased numbers of the apathetic middle.
/r/TheRedPill09/02/15 12:44 PM
4

I'm curious what you mean by "scientific hivemind." Science is objective by definition.
/r/TheRedPill09/02/15 12:41 PM
1

Without going into it too much; yes, Paleo is healthy. I don't mean that in the ultra strict crossfit zealotry sense, but rather in the pre agrarian diet sense. There are some qualifiers to that..but essentially, Paleo is healthy.
/r/TheRedPill07/02/15 05:36 AM
3

I don't know how old you are..but don't count on it. The only ethical choice is to hope SS collapses as soon as possible. If they somehow manage to keep it going, the next generation is simply going to be in the same situation, but compounded. We can't kick the can down the road forever
/r/TheRedPill07/02/15 05:25 AM
3

I can only hope he tells her to fuck off in spectacular public fashion
/r/TheRedPill07/02/15 04:30 AM
0

I think the problem is real but the one message a day thing is too low. Maybe 5 or something like that. My game is too strong to limit myself to one girl a say who will probably just respond with something inane anyway
/r/TheRedPill07/02/15 04:26 AM
3

Rand gives one of the very few rationally cogent defenses of selfishness I have personally come across. It is a shame the "conservatives" have abandoned their intellectual legacy for emotionalism and "truthiness."
/r/TheRedPill07/02/15 04:02 AM
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Some of the libertarian types have been known to accept money from the government, while preaching against big government in general. Why? The explanation given by Ron Paul, which I think is a good one, is that they are simply trying to reclaim taxpayer dollars in the best way they can. As far as they are concerned, it is undoing the damage of taxes that never should have been collected in the first place. It is always hairy to delve into libertarian stuff; the American political system has ever…
/r/TheRedPill07/02/15 03:58 AM
4

I was referencing future devices rather than current ones.
/r/TheRedPill05/02/15 08:09 PM
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I haven't really thought about it before, but when they finally are able to lie detect with serious accuracy, everything is going to change. Im sure there will be some slight taboo associated, but when you can do a quick 10 question run down with your SO about whatever, a lot of the structure of how things work is going to shift. Nevermind the much more massive implications for the legal process. I'm putting this up there with male birth control in importance. Like every problem ever, we won't s…
/r/TheRedPill05/02/15 03:34 PM
1

I would offer a different interpretation. Villains, by virtue of less constraint, should win. Today's society is a lot more pragmatic in this way, as they see examples of this everyday. To see something else without good explanation would ring slightly false. Even this sub is focused on acquiring power and then repeating that bro knighting and shaming is looked down on. For a long time, "good" tended to win, at least on the long time line. Civilization grew, if slowly, and life got better. It is…
/r/TheRedPill04/02/15 03:24 PM
5

The whole chakra/energy stuff is babble, but I think the mindfulness aspect that is incorporated is great.
/r/TheRedPill02/02/15 03:37 AM
2

Sometimes a joke or story is worth some extra effort, we don't have to be so freaking serious all the time. You didn't even write the essay right? Sounds like win win.
/r/TheRedPill29/01/15 04:05 AM
3

Depending on how you are feeling in the midst of this I might suggest yoga. It really worked the kinks out for me, plus the mental benefits are nothing to scoff at. Also, if you can afford it I would also try to find yourself a good masseuse that you can indulge in once a month or so.
/r/TheRedPill29/01/15 03:52 AM
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My thoughts as well. This seems more like a troll post than anything. Just the pure level of self awareness in this makes it suspect to me. Most woman I have known have nowhere near this level of pattern recognition, let alone the fortitude to admit how awful it makes them.
/r/TheRedPill28/01/15 05:10 PM
3

Completely agree. Society is a fluid thing, and while I certainly think it could be better, it has also been much worse. The amount of times I see the "inevitable collapse" being referred to here is retarded.
/r/TheRedPill27/01/15 04:21 PM
1

I will say two things: I have never personally known a snarky gymbro at the gym. Don't feel too self conscious; if anything they will inwardly applaud your efforts. Be consistent. It's easy to get stuck into a loop of being "optimal" in your programming and such; just make sure you show up and put work in. Some days won't be as great as others, whatever. Show up.
/r/TheRedPill27/01/15 01:58 PM
18

At this point I have to think of marriage as a business deal. When you factor in the ridiculous amount of money marriage costs you on the whole, it's hard not to simply hire a maid, spin plates, etc. Hell it's rare enough anymore to even find a girl that will cook consistently, let alone one that takes care of herself and doesn't nag you with bullshit all the time.
/r/TheRedPill27/01/15 01:53 PM
10

I can't find any fault with what you are saying, which is a little frustrating. I think deep down I always harbor the hope that women, while significantly different than us, are still people. But things like this just make me feel like it is a fools hope. This kind of behavior just runs so contrary to what I would be able to respect.
/r/TheRedPill25/01/15 11:06 PM
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I think this sentiment is something that gets overshadowed by other things a lot. As a man, I overall like doing things for women. The problem is when your basic kindness is interpreted as weakness to be taken advantage of, or it becomes internalized as a privilege by the receiver. I think this is where a lot of the anger men have for women in general comes from. Its like buying Christmas presents for a kid. Most people really like giving gifts in that way, but I will go out of my way not to giv…
/r/TheRedPill25/01/15 08:48 PM
2

This instance is weak, but generally speaking the sentiment holds true
/r/TheRedPill24/01/15 06:04 PM
1

I won't really disagree, but there is a lot to be said for having a good working relationship with someone
/r/TheRedPill22/01/15 11:26 PM
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I haven't had this happen myself, but I have heard it said people in this situation can often negotiate for some sort of stock/profit share situation as a bonus. Most people here would disagree I think, but a lot of the time your current employer has invested in you as well, has helped you get the skillset that makes you more valuable. I think that is worth something. Certainly there is a number where it's just silly not to take another job, but never make that your sole consideration.
/r/TheRedPill22/01/15 04:16 PM
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I wasn't aware we were considering immigrants non-persons. Apparently you are speaking specifically of white people? White people are decreasing while others increase. This is not new knowledge. Consider that a social problem if you want, but from a biological/scientific/everything else perspective, the increasing world population is a major problem. As an aside, America uses about 1/4th of the world's resources with about 1/20th of the population. A dramatically increased US population at curre…
/r/TheRedPill18/01/15 03:50 PM
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Fair enough. I think most of the benefit of religion has been it's accessibility; most people can't be trusted to think through things for themselves. Rather than present rationale for things to be a certain way, it is easier, and probably more effective, to say a wizard did it. I waffle back and forth on if religion is a symptom of people being none too bright, or part of the cause.
/r/TheRedPill18/01/15 02:47 PM
2

Those types of benefits are fairly accessible through mindfulness training and what some would call ego death. Certainly do what works for you, but I would hardly call those things inextricably bound.
/r/TheRedPill18/01/15 02:07 PM
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If you have a reference to something scientific I will look at it. A conspiracy youtube video is not that. There is simply know way you can believe the world population is shrinking without some very strong denial of cherry picking.
/r/TheRedPill18/01/15 01:07 PM
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Anything that asserts there is somehow need for increasing our birthrate is hard to take seriously. You basically have to ignore every piece of scientific evidence to believe this. I can only assume there is some sort of social agenda woven in.
/r/TheRedPill18/01/15 05:54 AM
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I think this is more a study on overpopulation than anything else, which I happen to personally believe is the most serious problem the world currently faces
/r/TheRedPill16/01/15 11:22 PM
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Seconded. There have been moments when I thought the sub was full of children with super powers.
/r/TheRedPill15/01/15 05:10 PM
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I will say this is at least partially wrong; a lot of those girls do nursing instead. Girls tend to do better in biology because their rote memorization is pretty good, and as of right now that is practically the only way to learn a lot of things like A&P etc. Depends on a lot of factors, but if anything I would say biology is actually tougher than it should be, since you have people that are ultra committed to getting into med school and are cruising out with near 4.0 GPAs sometimes. There is b…
/r/TheRedPill15/01/15 03:20 PM
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Velocity of money=economy right?
/r/TheRedPill14/01/15 04:52 PM
5

Ha you know, she has her act together at least
/r/TheRedPill14/01/15 04:48 PM
6

In this vein, has anyone tried anything to get their voices deeper? Mine is naturally higher than I would prefer, but every time I try out bringing it down a bit, it sounds obnoxious.
/r/TheRedPill14/01/15 04:36 PM
6

I was in therapy for depression for a time, and we actually did the staring into the eyes thing. They were approaching with cognitive behavioral therapy (CBT). The point of the exercise was to basically become comfortable with being uncomfortable. It played out not unlike how she wrote; it's hard not to laugh at first. In my case at least, my body was trying to dispel the uncomfortable tension that was being created. To her (yep) credit though, she half-giggled her way through the first couple m…
/r/TheRedPill13/01/15 06:35 PM
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I must say, she has a very readable quality to her writing.
/r/TheRedPill13/01/15 06:23 PM
1

Saying "this is my stop" on the train of science implies that your current understanding is perfect. Obviously it isn't.
/r/TheRedPill08/01/15 05:21 PM
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I second this, strongly. While I respect RPs general tendency to face hard truths, there is still plenty of cognitive dissonance. We could all use a little more rigor I think.
/r/TheRedPill08/01/15 05:19 PM
3

It's kind of specific, but if you can find an "old man" divey kind of bar, I would try that. More during the afternoon than the nights. Ideally in a blue collar neighborhood. Most women aren't going to be as into going to a bar with old dudes and truth be told it tends to be hard to get the real manly men types to talk much without alcohol anyway.
/r/TheRedPill05/01/15 07:53 PM
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Adam Corolla made a point in a podcast a while back that I never considered but makes perfect sense. If 20% of women are being raped in college annually, why the fuck do women keep going? He said no way was he going to let his daughter go anywhere there was a 1 in 5 chance of her getting assaulted. Of course, the implication is that the stats are trash, and that most women know this; hence why they don't hesitate to go to university.
/r/TheRedPill03/01/15 07:49 AM
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I have expressed similar sentiments in a few other threads; namely, that TRP should take more of a holistic view to self actualization. There is, after all, more to life than just chasing pussy. However, I will say I think the sentiment is misplaced here. It seems to be a minority of people are of the same mind. So it isn't really appropriate to try to change the sub. I think, instead, it may require a new sub entirely. Fighting over meta bullshit like that is counter productive. Especially when…
/r/TheRedPill30/12/14 08:03 AM
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I don't get why you are being down voted
/r/TheRedPill30/12/14 02:13 AM
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Without getting too deep into the rabbit hole, I look at STEM prestige as a mechanism to assist the value of a college education. These degrees that are easier to get also happen to be the overwhelming number of degrees granted by most universities and (surprise) are much more popular among women. This situation is socially degrading the value of a degree. Combat veterans know what I'm talking about. There are some guys that fought, bled, and killed during their 4 years. Others rode a desk. Pret…
/r/TheRedPill30/12/14 01:31 AM
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The NSF is wrong in this. That they consider social sciences STEM is likely a political move more than anything. By their definition, basically everyone in every job ever is a scientist of some kind.
/r/TheRedPill29/12/14 11:35 PM
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They would in that instance say a bachelor's in chemistry. By painting their social work degree as a "bachelor of science" they are trying to pretend at having a better background than they do. People that actually do science are specific, people that don't are vague.
/r/TheRedPill29/12/14 11:31 PM
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No one who is in a science field considers the social "sciences" part of it. Meaning, psychology, sociology, political science, etc. My university didn't even pretend they were science in anything but name; they shared the liberal arts building, not the science one. They also had special (dumbed down) math classes for themselves separate from the STEM kids. I normally wouldn't care much about particular acronyms, but I think it's important to call out those people trying to piggyback on the pres…
/r/TheRedPill29/12/14 09:47 PM
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I predict this post will be met by a lot of "male hamstring." You are trying to undo the rationalization and social whitewashing language some are using on this sub. I hope it works, but I'm skeptical. I don't mean this as an insult, but a lot of the people here aren't ready for that. I suspect it's an age thing, but that's just a guess.
/r/TheRedPill29/12/14 03:40 AM
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Lift and Approach is a far better model for most guys. The PUA model can work too, but it's really only necessary for the minority that have no ability to just become socially calibrated. Pickup also has the issue of self congratulatory masturbating and circle jerking. Not to say this sub doesn't do this (it absolutely does) but for the most part it isn't detrimental. The only thing I will give pickup over RP is that pickup does have a connect the dots thing going that is very easy to follow cer…
/r/TheRedPill24/12/14 06:00 PM
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This is correct, not sure why you are being down voted
/r/TheRedPill20/12/14 07:53 AM
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Fantastic post. The only thing I might add is we would want to not use too much of an "extreme" view of electronic game. It's simply another tool in the toolbox. The point of the post really seems to be that now that everyone and their dog is comfortable with this, it's important to refresh your non electronic skills. Game in one and game in the other arent hugely different skills, it's just a matter of how comfortable you are in each realm. I mean let's be honest, the reason electronic flirting…
/r/TheRedPill18/12/14 09:21 PM
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There is a fair amount of cognitive dissonance here, even though I think the main strength of the sub is being able to face hard truths. As existing as a man has more variables than how much pussy you are getting, TRP is simply not equipped to make you an actualized male by itself. It's a great starting place though.
/r/TheRedPill15/12/14 05:46 PM
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Truth be told almost no one probably listens the first few times they hear this stuff, especially people like this Mark guy. But you probably planted seeds that might eventually see the light of day. You really gave him a gift. It was almost certainly too late for his relationship with your daughter; nobody assimilates it that fast. But his future could very well be much happier because of you. Well done my friend.
/r/TheRedPill15/12/14 05:12 PM
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I am reminded of the anti-intellectual types who decry spending on science and degrade scientists, while literally standing in the relative opulence they have created. If you only seek to take value, and never give it, you are a parasite. You take all the work of better men past for granted, as if it was yours by birthright and not by happy chance. But it is true, this sub is only concerned with the amorality of male sexual strategy. (interestingly enough, it does have quite a bit to say about t…
/r/TheRedPill15/12/14 04:44 PM
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I read somewhere once that "women have traded cooking and cleaning for blow jobs" which I feel like is true. Not that blow jobs are great, but the sentiment I think is that women bring less and less to a relationship as time is going on, other than their "presence." (jesus christ) Since they are generally garbage for companionship and don't seem to take any domestic duties seriously, the only thing they truly offer is sex. I think as a community RP should push legalizing prostitution a LOT more.…
/r/TheRedPill11/12/14 06:02 PM
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Not as a rib at you personally, but I have heard people in my own life express sentiments like this and I will say there is an angle many don't consider: they are fat. They think they are big, alpha, jacked, whatever; they are just fat. A fairly simple problem to fix if it is realized.
/r/TheRedPill11/12/14 05:54 PM
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It seems like around here being alpha is so fetishized that literally everything else can be excused. Saw a similar tone not too long ago with Putin
/r/TheRedPill11/12/14 05:08 PM
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It seems like one of the only serious benefits to cohabitation
/r/TheRedPill10/12/14 04:56 PM
2

If you have the time and inclination, I bet a post with a few guidelines/recipes would be appreciated. Maybe cooking centric to healthy lifestyle, or to get those panties off.
/r/TheRedPill10/12/14 04:53 PM
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I am as annoyed by women as anyone, but she is at least trying. Even if it is a little ham fisted, she is upfront about what she wants. Personally I don't think we should be looking down on this chick at all. Can you imagine a world where women were all aware of their actual desires and communicated them directly to you? We should ask this women to spread her wisdom among the covens
/r/TheRedPill08/12/14 01:36 AM
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I have also been down voted for suggesting RP could be more than pump and dump strategies. Some of that is my fault; I took the RP crowd as being males seeking self actualization, but it isn't. It's just sexual strategy. Which is fine I guess, but it's kind of lazy. I don't know if anyone here has touched Robert Moore, but what you are pining for is for RP to become men in the "King" phase, while most of the guys here only really want to stay in the "Lover" stage. And honestly, depending on the …
/r/TheRedPill06/12/14 02:55 AM
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Be careful, reddit hates anything Rand with a frothy burning passion
/r/TheRedPill05/12/14 05:15 AM
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This is essentially true, barring actual injury. Very rarely do people really over train. I mean, we all know Olympic athletes exist right? Protip: if you suspect you are in an overtrained state, take your temperature. If it's lower than it should be, you have real cause to take a break
/r/TheRedPill21/11/14 04:21 PM
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I actually think this is part of a somewhat larger problem. At some point we decided to start admitting opinion statements as facts and feelings as reasons. Once we have untethered any conversation from constraints of reality like that, it's pure fuckery from there on out
/r/TheRedPill17/11/14 10:44 PM
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I honestly would love to peek into the future if something like this were to come about. I think it would really change the social structure up more than we would expect. If men can guiltlessly and legally purchase sex directly I wonder that it won't almost create some crazy murloc eloi shit. I mean, do you really want to interact with women outside of procuring sex? Especially when you can get likely hotter, more skilled women at cheaper rates? And what is really the point of women riding the c…
/r/TheRedPill17/11/14 05:52 PM
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If I need to tell you there probably isn't a point.
/r/TheRedPill15/11/14 06:40 PM
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Putin may be alpha, but he also a terrible person. Let it be a cautionary example that mindless pursuit of alpha at any cost is retarded Edit: If these down votes are indicative of the sub as a whole I'm curious what the mean age is here
/r/TheRedPill15/11/14 03:38 PM
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If you find a woman with these kinds of values there are usually some pretty serious trade offs. If you want a family they are probably worth it though.
/r/TheRedPill12/11/14 01:13 PM
12

Taking this to heart man, really. The shit you went through is at least helping others to be wary of the same. Hopefully that is worth something
/r/TheRedPill12/11/14 05:03 AM
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Great post, and well written, but I would still have to agree with OP. The day may come where marriage is something approaching equitable for men, but I think our best chance to make that happen is withdrawing our support of it until it does. Our modern society is set up in such a way that peaceful noncompliance is practically all we can do. We have to hope that eventually women gain some insight and finally put that slavering beast called feminism down. I wouldn't say I'm optimistic, but there …
/r/TheRedPill12/11/14 04:59 AM
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Yes. Which is apparently worthy of being down voted.
/r/TheRedPill11/11/14 05:30 PM
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If you haven't seen "Closer" with Jude Law and Clive Owen, I suggest you do so. Basically, no, you cannot ask. If you are really bothered by this, you could consider gf'ing her once she is back, but even then, you can't ask.
/r/askTRP11/11/14 05:19 PM
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I still sometimes struggle with treating women like adults.
/r/TheRedPill11/11/14 03:09 AM
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While I agree with a lot of the commentary in this thread, in this particular case, the ban doesn't seem outrageous. With so much of the park being dedicated to small children, there just isn't much reason an adult would want to go solo. It reminds me of Chuck E Cheese; no entry without a kid. By and large this is one of those things that sounds worse than it is
/r/TheRedPill11/11/14 03:01 AM
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The meditation suggestions are excellent, and I will make another: don't hit on women. Just engage in your own hobbies, learn to appreciate things outside of women. Truly, actually, genuinely try to live your life in such a way that women aren't a focus. A lot of us have literally never done this our entire lives. That isn't something you need to do forever of course, but it's a good skill to revisit from time to time. It gives you a great sense of outcome independence. And most people here, whe…
/r/TheRedPill08/11/14 03:28 AM
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I agree. The practical worth of commitment is lower than it has ever been.The emotional value may still be there though.
/r/TheRedPill07/11/14 05:39 PM
1

"Sexual strategy is ammoral" -this sub I actually agree with you entirely. Just pointing out this phrase does not justify doing whatever the fuck you want, as some people seem to think it does. There are lots of women out there, just find another one.
/r/TheRedPill07/11/14 03:57 PM
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I agree, they do get outlandish with some of their choices. For them, fashion is a game unto itself, rather than a means to an end. Which is fine, really. But TRP is more practically minded, and largely not into that. I think the reason the dark color advice is thrown around a lot is because it works. Dark colors are a good decision for most peoples skin, and it isn't seen as an edgey choice, so dudes are almost always comfortable dressing in them. That matters a lot. However, to say it is inher…
/r/TheRedPill05/11/14 04:34 PM
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I would agree, to a point. Alpha is not clothes deep only; you don't undo someone's game simply by wearing sub - optimal clothing. In fact, if for some reason you just like dressing that way, it may even make you more comfortable and alpha as a result. Alpha can look all sorts of ways. Don Draper is a great template, but there is more than one path to the Emerald City.
/r/TheRedPill05/11/14 02:41 PM
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While this is somewhat true, it will also get you laid. Women want to fuck social phenotypes (rocker, frat guy, sexy nerd etc) and the one MFA is essentially aiming at is a pretty solid caricature for broad spectrum appeal. If you have the attitude and fashion sense to dabble in others by all means. They can be just as effective. But I think the MFA advice is solid to start.
/r/TheRedPill05/11/14 02:04 PM
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Good on you. I didn't mean to imply you were skipping the gym, my bad. As an aside, I actually also dont like eggs, but they are amazing for you. So, I drink them. Add a little water and blend or stir vigorously, then chug. It's less awful than it sounds. A side benefit for anyone doing fat loss: drinking them makes you mildly nauseous. Not enough to really make you feel bad, but enough to make you not hungry for awhile.
/r/TheRedPill04/11/14 05:15 PM
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In the strict sense eggs and bacon are better. Really just protein and fat in abundance, in general. But what it really comes down to in the real world is that whatever it is you can do consistently is going to trump being "optimal." Oatmeal and pushups are inferior to eggs and lifting, but if oats and ups do it for you, more power to you. You will outpace those who do things "better" but can't keep to their programs.
/r/TheRedPill04/11/14 03:05 PM
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Oddly, I actually think OP was lucky in having such an extreme trial by fire so to speak. I think it's far more normal for us to be tested much more mildly, and over a much longer time period. This gives us time to "rationalize" the situations into a context that allows us to continue Betalife. Having it happen the way it did brought much faster awakening. They did you a favor OP.
/r/TheRedPill04/11/14 02:29 PM
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You are being down voted for being kind of an ass. But as someone who started life with literally negative wealth, the idea of having assets roll down to you is an often overlooked part of being successful. Even something as simple as having your first car paid for is a godsend sometimes. Appreciate your fortune OP, both in having a good mother and a responsible family in general.
/r/TheRedPill31/10/14 02:26 PM
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Strange you would be downvoted just for asking to see the research
/r/TheRedPill03/10/14 06:57 PM
6

The stock answer is anatomical differences of nerve endings and such, which isn't really wrong. But my personal take on it is that while the anatomical stuff matters, in the end the mental state matters more. If she is ultra turned on by your masculinity then it will be much easier for her to orgasm from your dick. Of course, there are woman that simply "believe" the anatomical argument so hard that its a self fulfilling prophecy; they pretty much can't orgasm from dick because they are in their…
/r/TheRedPill03/10/14 06:50 PM
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The second group being better than the first isn't so much jocks>stoners, it's just that the second group is more pleasant in general. I have seen the roles reversed, personally. In context to the OP, I think the main difference is leadership within those groups. An actual alpha can enter those circles and start steering the ship the right way. The members themselves, being given a nudge towards what they probably know is the right path, will even continue this work to some extent without more l…
/r/TheRedPill01/10/14 09:55 AM
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Why the hate on eating pussy? I rather love it and I have heard multiple times from different girls it's something they love about me. I mean, I wouldn't do it all the time, and certainly not to the detriment of frenzy sex, but I don't see why it can't have a place in the repertoire.
/r/TheRedPill26/09/14 04:40 PM
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There would be no problem if there weren't another guy. There is, and going after someone else's girl incessantly is not cool. Doing something simply because you can is a schoolyard bully mentality. The silver lining is that that other guys reply to her is exactly right; they are both shitty people and deserve each other
/r/TheRedPill19/09/14 06:36 PM
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I wouldn't say it's people being soft, it's people reacting to the slimy nature of the guy. One fucking woman, any of them, is not worth a "victory at all costs" mentality. We give woman a pass on scuzzy shit a lot of the time because we have decided it isn't worth the time to try teaching ethics to women that either won't learn or can't. Simply ignoring it is a shitty thing to do when you know better makes you a lesser man, not actually knowing any better makes you either a child or a woman
/r/TheRedPill19/09/14 05:32 PM
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Seems like all the online profiles mention something like "Wants to go on adventures!" or "Looking for a partner in crime!" Of course you love adventures; they are free for you. Of course you love trying new things, those things cost you nothing. It has been a shit deal for the dating man for a long time. I can't think of any date I ever had that wouldn't have been more fun with one of my guy friends. Ever.
/r/TheRedPill18/09/14 01:06 AM
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To be fair sometimes you really just want to buy a girl something. I buy things for my dude friends sometimes. But I would never buy her something because she expected me to. No one wants to give gifts to a brat
/r/TheRedPill18/09/14 12:58 AM
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Fuck it, if you want to stay home and game then do that. But just be honest with yourself if it is truly what you want to do that day or if you are just hiding. Hiding is not actualized. In that vein, not everything you do needs to be oriented around picking up chicks. That's the kind of life women lead
/r/TheRedPill18/09/14 12:53 AM
1

I suppose that's as good an answer as there is to give. Its not a problem of literally thinking they are teenagers. I just don't want to have to worry for her sake whether she is making a good choice or not by getting railed by me. As someone who seriously questions a woman's actual capacity to even making such a choice, it actually feels doubly important. But in the end I suppose there's just nothing to be done about it. It isn't my responsibility. Add it to the list of male burdens
/r/TheRedPill17/09/14 07:25 PM
2

This seems less of an actualized mentality and more of a looter one to me
/r/TheRedPill17/09/14 06:10 PM
1

Not at all repulsed, and I don't really expect any kind of responsibility from women. This is a purely internal question.
/r/TheRedPill17/09/14 06:09 PM
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