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feminism's irrational belief that all men are rapists and pedophiles. Aside from a tiny number of radfems, this is not actually something feminists believe. MRAs tend to spend an awful lot of time arguing with feminists who exist only in their own heads.
/r/MensRights22/05/12 01:20 AM
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There is considerable overlap between the MRM and PUAs online, particularly with the branch of misogynistic MRAs associated with Heartiste/Roissy and In Mala Fide. In addition to an overlapping membership (MRAs who are also PUAs and vice versa), they talk about many of the same things (female "hypergamy," for example) and use a lot of the same lingo ("white knights," "manginas," the "female rationalization hamster"). Obviously there are also MRAs who hate PUAs and vice versa but to claim there i…
/r/MensRights22/05/12 01:03 AM
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Women's vote is a birthright, men don't have that right, its contingent on them signing up to be used as cannon fodder, if need be. Wat. There is no draft in the US, and no chance it will be revived. Registering for the draft is a basically meaningless "obligation." I don't think anyone should have to register, but, sure, as long as men are obliged to do it women should be as well. I believe that is the stance of NOW as well. is nothing by comparison to feminism's calling for final solutions and…
/r/MensRights22/05/12 12:52 AM
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I do know that, and mentioned it elsewhere in the thread. Having not read the actual text of his lawsuit, I don't know if the "hard chairs" was in there. Martin says it wasn't, and despite the fact that he is not the most credible of sources I'll take his word for it. The press reported that it was part of the lawsuit. So I can't really put the blame for this apparent error on the NS writers but on the papers who (allegedly) misreported it. For what it's worth, Martin has argued quite seriously …
/r/MensRights22/05/12 12:39 AM
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I don't see a lot of "blood in the streets" talk from feminists; I see it constantly from MRAs.
/r/MensRights21/05/12 10:10 PM
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Tom Martin did in fact argue that the chairs were too hard, and that this represented discrimination against men. I'm not making this up; the authors of the New Statesman piece are not making this up. This was apparently not a specific part of his lawsuit, but he's made the "hard chairs are misandry" argument numerous times and contacted the school to complain about it. After I wrote about him on my blog, he left a number of comments there (I confirmed his identity via email; you can email him v…
/r/MensRights21/05/12 09:55 PM
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Could you point out any specific lies in the article?
/r/MensRights21/05/12 09:43 PM
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Are you going to just report their conclusion and not their reason for it? By not doing so you're engaging in a manipulative tactic: Letting the reader infer the worst by not mentioning the actual reason. Wait, so are you suggesting that it's ok to think women shouldn't have the vote if you have good reasons for it? What would be a good reason for that?
/r/MensRights21/05/12 09:12 PM
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Can you tell me the name you posted under so I can see what actually happened when you commented? There is nothing from "kragshot," and no mention of you whatsoever under that name, on my blog.
/r/MensRights21/05/12 08:28 PM
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The article by Ebert reflects a larger cultural trope present in our society that is also constantly presented to female audiences to pander to them It's also massively patronizing to women. You're not going to find many feminists defending it these days.
/r/MensRights20/05/12 12:51 AM
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It's not an olive branch. It's what I actually think. I was just curious to see if anyone would actually read it. According to my stats, so far zero people here have even clicked on the link. Which reinforces my hypothesis that most of the people who regularly denounce me here never actually read anything I write.
/r/MensRights19/05/12 09:05 PM
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I wrote about the Ebert piece too. Feministe's response to Ebert's misguided post made a lot more sense than AVFM's: http://manboobz.com/2012/05/17/no-women-arent-better-than-men-but-the-guys-at-a-voice-for-men-are-doing-their-best-to-make-men-look-bad/
/r/MensRights19/05/12 07:32 PM
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In my original post, I linked to the Jezebel piece and said this: This little violent fantasy of his is ostensibly inspired by an obnoxious three-year-old post from Jezebel which basically celebrated the fact that various female staffers had beaten up boyfriends of theirs. The fact that some people on Jezebel said something horrible doesn't mean I have to write about it in detail. Nor does it justify in any way what Elam said. Nor does it transform his ADVOCACY OF VIOLENCE, in particular the adv…
/r/MensRights19/05/12 07:21 PM
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Here is what I quoted from Elam: In the name of equality and fairness, I am proclaiming October to be Bash a Violent Bitch Month. I’d like to make it the objective for the remainder of this month, and all the Octobers that follow, for men who are being attacked and physically abused by women – to beat the living shit out of them. I don’t mean subdue them, or deliver an open handed pop on the face to get them to settle down. I mean literally to grab them by the hair and smack their face against t…
/r/MensRights19/05/12 08:02 AM
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How did what I quoted from Elam misrepresent what he was saying? Please be specific, instead of making vague generalizations.
/r/MensRights19/05/12 07:51 AM
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Well, all quotes are by definition "out of context," though when I quote people I link to the source of the quote in context. Can you show me an example in which I quote something "out of context" in a way that misrepresents what was being said? Also, why is it inappropriate to quote comments? (FWIW, I generally only quote comments when they have been heavily upvoted, when sites allow voting on comments.) If you're talking about a forum like r/mr, virtually all the content here IS comments and/o…
/r/MensRights18/05/12 09:38 PM
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I'm all for a male pill, and so are all the feminists I know. I don't believe the Brazilian doctor's story, and I've never seen a reference to it that's not based on this one video. Can anyone point me to another independent source that might confirm what he says happened?
/r/MensRights15/05/12 09:17 PM
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Well, yeah, of course. I never said that r/beatingwomen was representative of r/mensrights. It's obviously not. That said, I was critical of the choice of AnnArchist as a mod because, among other things, he had posted videos in r/beatingwomen. It seems to me that would be enough to disqualify someone to be a mod, and the fact that it wasn't is troubling to me. But what's going on now? The r/beatingwomen folks are trolling in an obnoxious way.
/r/MensRights14/05/12 01:04 AM
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Ok then, show me an example in which I misrepresented something someone said by taking the quote out of context. (Also, when I quote, I link to the quotes in their original contexts.)
/r/MensRights13/05/12 09:37 PM
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Also, I'm Spartacus.
/r/MensRights13/05/12 08:59 PM
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Exactly. And I could jusr as easily claim to be Paul Elam. They have no other evidence. It's not true. They're trolling.
/r/MensRights13/05/12 08:41 PM
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It's been 14 hours since you posted your false accusations against me. Let's see the supposed "evidence." Put up or shut up.
/r/MensRights13/05/12 08:21 PM
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[citation needed]
/r/MensRights13/05/12 08:09 PM
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Yes, as a matter of fact, I am.
/r/MensRights13/05/12 07:46 PM
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It's not me. r/beatingwomen has been around for a long time. It's a nasty place, and until its recent anti-r/mensrights trolling, it seems to have been nothing more than a place for people to laugh at vidoes and pictures of women being assaulted. I think Reddit should shut it down.
/r/MensRights13/05/12 06:49 PM
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AVfM has not come anywhere NEAR meeting the burden of proof against manboobz. Indeed, he's posted zero evidence. There is no evidence, because what he's saying isn't true.
/r/MensRights13/05/12 06:37 PM
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He has no proof because none of the crap in his article is true.
/r/MensRights13/05/12 05:40 PM
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I'll "deny" it because it's not true. I'm not Viperz. End of story.
/r/MensRights13/05/12 05:27 PM
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Your "contacts" are full of it. I have no connection to viperz and have no idea who it is.
/r/MensRights13/05/12 12:47 AM
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It certainly read as sarcasm to me Yeah, that might possibly be why I described his comment as sarcastic.
/r/MensRights10/05/12 07:12 PM
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‏Pigman's headline said MLP was attecked by "the nuts" over at the MS. blog. It was one person, the feminist commenters challenged it, and Ms. gave the (feminist) behind the show an opportunity to respond: http://msmagazine.com/blog/blog/2010/12/24/my-little-non-homophobic-non-racist-non-smart-shaming-pony-a-rebuttal/ Would it really contribute to the conversation to point out that this mra highlighting a MLP conspiracy was told his idea was ridiculous by other commenters over and over again? Uh…
/r/MensRights08/05/12 03:01 AM
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Uh, I didn't use it to conclude that all MRAs are deluded. I noted that the comments said it was ridiculous. I posted about it because I found the very notion of Men's Rights Bronies funny. Did you read my post?
/r/MensRights08/05/12 02:47 AM
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Can you point out some of these things? I hardly even post in r/mr any more. There is at least one impersonator going around posting things as me; maybe you have me mixed up with that person.
/r/MensRights07/05/12 03:57 PM
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Actually, I pointed out that the commenters disagreed with the OP. Did you read my post?
/r/MensRights07/05/12 03:44 PM
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Well, that's sort of par for the course when your head is up your ass. Or so I've heard.
/r/MensRights07/05/12 12:11 PM
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The point is, that when this feminist blogger posted something ridiculous, other feminists called her out for it. You guys should try that once in a while.
/r/MensRights07/05/12 11:05 AM
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Did you read any of the comments? The Ms. Blog readers thought the post was ridiculous.
/r/MensRights07/05/12 10:48 AM
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I would say that the chance an MRA "remembers" something involving SRS accurately is probably less than zero.
/r/MensRights30/04/12 06:42 AM
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Hey, whoever it was looked just like you.
/r/MensRights30/04/12 05:29 AM
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So you have no proof, and you blame SRS for that? Personally, I believe you eat puppies. I remember seeing you eating them, but as you have a habit of hiding the puppy bones when you're done eating them, I have no proof.
/r/MensRights30/04/12 02:10 AM
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I believe SRS claimed Viperz. [citation needed]
/r/MensRights30/04/12 12:33 AM
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Yeah, that's right, the CIA invented feminism to destroy the civil rights movement. Or maybe it invented the civil rights movement to destroy feminism -- and it backfired? I mean, it's not like the CIA always succeeds, right? (I mean, one time they tried to kill Castro with an exploding cigar. Seriously.) I think my hypotheses makes at least as much sense as yours. Or perhaps feminism happened because women were blatantly treated like second class citizens and, you know, got sick of it? And afte…
/r/MensRights26/04/12 10:25 AM
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Er, Ms was founded in 1971, not in the late 50s or early 60s. So that citation is pretty much worthless. The only partly CIA-funded cultural foundation I've ever heard of was Encounter magazine, a liberal but anti-communist magazine that existed in the 50s (and maybe early 60s). Is this what Steinem was involved with? most of those involved in it didn;t know about the funding and many quit when they found out. It was not a feminist magazine.
/r/MensRights26/04/12 02:23 AM
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How am I trying to associate r/mr with CP? I criticized you, not r/mr in general, in that thread. (Ok, I made a comment wondering why no one in r/mr had posted about the issue yet, and expressed skepticism that someone would ever post about it, though there are certainly people here who read SRS and who would have seen the SRS post about it, which had been up for I think 15 hours at that point. I was wrong there: after I commented about it here, someone did post it, but the post got little atten…
/r/MensRights20/04/12 09:37 PM
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Mags, I think the commenters at MB were sort of astonished that your reaction to the CP was so blase. Indeed, your first comment in that thread, in reaction to the discussion of the CP, was: Oh, noes. The SA, SRS crowd thinks, “Why you no good, reddit?” Ha. Just because we at reddit are generally recognized to be A W E S O M E, should not instill jealousy. I mean, David is on reddit all the time. http://manboobz.com/2012/04/19/reddit-quote-of-the-day-i-lost-a-really-good-friend-because-he-didnt-…
/r/MensRights20/04/12 08:47 PM
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We discussed the matter at length with Mags; she was well aware of it. You can read her numerous comments in the thread.
/r/MensRights20/04/12 08:20 AM
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I am restricted from posting to this subreddit more than once every 10 minutes or so (apparently b/c I get so many downvotes), hence my slowness in getting back to you. But I have provided answers to your original questions. Also, Maggie was aware of this story; we were discussing it in the thread she took that quote from. Ask her why she didn't post about it in r/mr.
/r/MensRights20/04/12 07:58 AM
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SRS first posted about it 10 hours ago; people there reported it to the r/video mods and reddit admins, as well as youtube and the fbi. The video was, astoundingly, posted on YouTube; it was apparently video from Vice magazine of a "crazy rave party" where the abuse happened. Apparently whoever posted it on YouTube has taken it down.
/r/MensRights20/04/12 07:09 AM
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Here's the original thread in r/videos, which you can still access even though the r/video mods have evidently removed it from the subreddit (after it was up for a day or so; it was also apparently up for some hours after first being reported to mods there). http://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/sgbt4/kazantip_wildest_rave_party_vice/
/r/MensRights20/04/12 06:58 AM
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I sometimes do think that the only decent people on Reddit are the SRSers, though I know they aren't the only ones. But it's not true that SRSers are all Man Boobz regulars or Something Awful goons; I don't even know of any MB regulars who are active SRSers. Which I pointed out in the thread over there.
/r/MensRights20/04/12 06:47 AM
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Mags, so you post about this, but you don't post about what we were really talking about (and are still talking about) in that thread, which is how disgusting it is that there was actual child porn up in r/videos, with 900 upvotes, featuring the sexaul abuse of a 6 year old boy? Oh, but SRS is talking about the child porn, and apparently you all hate SRS more than you hate child porn, even when the victim is a young boy.
/r/MensRights20/04/12 06:19 AM
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Uh, no I don't. But thanks for playing "Make shit up about David Futrelle!"
/r/MensRights19/04/12 12:45 AM
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I have not joked about male rape. This is what I've written about it: http://manboobz.blogspot.com/2010/11/further-reading-prison-rape.html
/r/MensRights19/04/12 12:35 AM
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Fatrelle jokes of male rape [citation fucking needed] I have never joked about the rape of men.
/r/MensRights19/04/12 12:23 AM
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Really? I have no ads.
/r/MensRights18/04/12 11:58 PM
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I quote what people say, and I link to the quotes in context. If what they say makes them look bad, that's not my fault.
/r/MensRights11/04/12 11:01 AM
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So you admit you've got nothing. All you've got is insinuation. You've got no evidence that I'm the ring leader for anything because I'm not the ring leader of anything. SRS is a spin-off group of man boobz? You're out of your mind. I don't harass people. I don't encourage anyone else to harass people. I don't have any connections to anyone who harasses anyone. What I do is this: I quote misogynistic shit I find on the internet. I provide links back to the original quotes in context. Sometimes I…
/r/MensRights11/04/12 10:47 AM
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If you're not making shit up, then give me some fucking EVIDENCE. Anything. You've given me nothing. I have no idea who Elam is even talking about in that piece. Whatever happened, if anything happened, had ZERO to do with me or my site. Elam doesn't even accuse me of anything there. He just makes an innuendo-laden aside about me. As for JtO, when did he even accuse MB or me of having anything to do with harassment? You've go nothing. You're a fucking liar. Though as far as I can tell you believ…
/r/MensRights11/04/12 10:31 AM
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Do you have any evidence? Heck, do you even have evidence that JtO accused me of anything other than having his name on my site? (Which I have since removed, even though he's the one who originally put his real name online.) Do you even know who the mysterious third guy you're talking about is? I certainly don't, because you're making this shit up.
/r/MensRights11/04/12 10:14 AM
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Bullshit. Show me proof. We only have Qanan's word that he was harassed, and I don't believe him. (Since he was accusing me -- or at least someone who was reading my site -- I asked him for proof of the actual harassment and he refused to give it.) As for the others, I don't even know what you're talking about. Since you won't even give a name for the alleged third guy, I doubt you even know what you're talking about.
/r/MensRights11/04/12 09:59 AM
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Your people are phoning false accusations into employers and the police What the fuck are you even talking about? "My people" are doing no such thing.
/r/MensRights11/04/12 09:24 AM
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What color is the sky on your world?
/r/MensRights11/04/12 09:05 AM
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I didn't doxx JtO. He put his own name out on the internet. He did a video in which he gave his name, spelled it out carefully, and even told people where he lived. Nevertheless, when he complained about it, I took his name down from my site. He, meanwhile, is the #2 person on a web site that's actively involved in doxxing,and which gives out rewards for personal information.
/r/MensRights11/04/12 08:47 AM
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they are not condoned Obviously doxxing is condoned by a lot of people here. Read the comments in this thread. Like AgentmraOrangemrm's comment. http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/s2sv2/rmensrights_must_avoid_harassing_behavior/c4ap253 Or this one: http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/s2sv2/rmensrights_must_avoid_harassing_behavior/c4ap5j1 Or look in the sidebar to see a link to the podcast of a site that regularly engages in doxxing, and which puts out rewards for personal infor…
/r/MensRights11/04/12 07:02 AM
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i hope to god your outed Huh? I post using my real name on my blog. I haven't doxxed anyone. On several occasions I used the real name of people who normally post under pseudonyms, but only because they themselves have put their name online (in association with their pseudonym). To claim I "doxxed" them would be like me complaining that someone identified me by my real name. (Hint: That would not be doxxing either, as I have put my real name online.)
/r/MensRights10/04/12 10:30 PM
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If you are truly opposed to doxxing, you should remove the link to A Voice for Men radio from the MR sidebar. AVFM has, among other things, put out $1000 rewards for the personal information of people they don't like.
/r/MensRights10/04/12 09:30 PM
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Thank you for your support!
/r/MensRights10/04/12 04:44 AM
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WF Price's piece has more to do with his own sexual fantasies than it does with the talk I'm going to give. I am actually going to be talking about some of the dumb shit that misogynists post about sex online. Including a couple of dudes who've posted in this subreddit!
/r/MensRights09/04/12 07:18 PM
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Huh? I never said that ALL MRAs condone violence. Learn to read, dude. I'm done w/ you.
/r/MensRights09/04/12 04:01 AM
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Nothing about the troll post was "making fun of female on male rape." You're so blinded by your -- I don't know, rage? ideology? you head up your ass? -- that you can't see straight. Also, if you think I'm such a liar that you won't even read what I write -- based on misreading one post of mine, and all the complete bullshit that people write about me here -- there's no point in discussing anything with you. EDITED TO ADD: You write: And you say you offer proof but how can I trust it when it's y…
/r/MensRights09/04/12 02:40 AM
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Wow, not only wrong about everything, but unwilling to actually look at evidence that challenges your preconceptions. What a treat. Have you ever actually read my blog? I mean, actually read a post all the way through, read through a page or more of comments? Or do you just accept the nonsense people say about it here on faith? What troll making fun of male rape are you talking about?
/r/MensRights09/04/12 02:23 AM
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I do not condone it. I said plainly that I didn't. I've done that many times. I've written about it on MB. You can look it up. I have zero connections with jezebel and ineedhelp1234. You're welcome!
/r/MensRights09/04/12 02:13 AM
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That critique is misleading and dishonest. If you're going to read it, I suggest you read my actual debate posts first. http://manboobz.blogspot.com/p/not-so-great-debate-on-domestic.html And this as a followup: http://manboobz.blogspot.com/2010/11/further-reading-domestic-violence.html As I say in the original debate post: The point of all this is not to deny that men suffer from DV. They do, and though a much smaller percentage of men suffer from serious abuse than women, the suffering they en…
/r/MensRights09/04/12 01:15 AM
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I suggest you go read the thread on MB; Toy Soldier has completely misrepresented what went on. The MB challenged a male rape survivor for arguing that his abuser should have gotten a much shorter sentence than she in fact did. (Yes, you read that right. The MB commenters thought she should have gotten the stiff sentence she in fact did get.) There were a few who challenged aspects of his story, because he is someone who has lied about numerous things in the past. But no one made light of his ab…
/r/MensRights09/04/12 01:03 AM
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"I am grateful to the dashing and meme-worthy Mr. Gosling" http://gawker.com/5899046/ryan-gosling-saved-me-from-a-speeding-car-but-theres-war-in-the-middle-east-so-everyone-calm-down
/r/MensRights06/04/12 08:44 AM
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Your mom brings scrutiny onto your reasoning.
/r/MensRights06/04/12 12:50 AM
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Thank you. That is much more accurate.
/r/MensRights05/04/12 10:18 PM
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I believe what I was doing is known amongst the master debaters as "pointing out that your argument is stupid."
/r/MensRights05/04/12 09:53 PM
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Dude, I don't "support" sperm-stealing. You've just made that up. Do you ever post anything that is true, even by accident?
/r/MensRights05/04/12 08:29 PM
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By "they" I assume you mean me and my cat, though frankly she is not of much help.
/r/MensRights05/04/12 08:16 PM
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Hey, all my comments are getting tons of downvotes. I will assume with all the false-flag ninjaing going on here that this means they are incredibly popular and I am the most beloved commenter on r/mensrights! TL;DR, I am the king of r/mr!
/r/MensRights05/04/12 07:33 PM
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Next time I will check with you first, because clearly you are the only one qualified to tell me which comments count as "real" r/mensrights comments and which don't. Thanks in advance for your help!
/r/MensRights05/04/12 08:35 AM
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Everything I quoted had net upvotes, in at least one case dozens of them. I'm not picking the outliers. EDIT: Except for one comment calling out the other commenters for hypocrisy. That one got voted down to zero.
/r/MensRights05/04/12 08:23 AM
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I know, it's just terrible of me to ... accurately quote what you guys say here, with links to the quotes in context.
/r/MensRights05/04/12 07:33 AM
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Actually, I'm pretty sure it's because they saw my post on the subject.
/r/MensRights05/04/12 06:37 AM
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Yes, I wrote and upvoted every comment on r/mensrights that defended the guy. In fact, 90% of all posts on r/mensrights are from me. I have over 9000 sockpuppets. In fact, you're one of them! Can you prove you are not me? Also, I run The Spearhead and AVFM. I am WF Price, Paul Elam, JohntheOther, GirlWritesWhat and Warren Farell. Every post and every comment on every men's rights site is written by me.
/r/MensRights04/04/12 06:07 PM
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Hey, it's another false accusation from Sigil1! I had nothing to do with this, and I don't think any of it is true.
/r/MensRights04/04/12 05:37 PM
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Is this kind of licking now considered a bad thing?
/r/MensRights26/03/12 11:21 PM
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The hard seats things was evidently not part of the court case, but, yes, he does think that hard seats are discriminatory against men: One year prior to joining the university, when visiting its library, I did complain, that the seating being hard created a greater disadvantage for men than for women, as men have considerably smaller weight-bearing buttock pads than women, and men are heavier too – so for men, on average heavier than women, have more weight bearing down onto a pad which is appr…
/r/MensRights21/03/12 01:46 AM
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If there was ever any doubt that Tom Martin is really a rather poor choice of hero for any movement that wants to even pretend that it's actually egalitarian, just look at these recent comments of his: For the record, I would never claim all women are whores. I’d put it at around the 97% mark in my estimation Saudi women [are] lazy whores pulling all strings. ... Islamic states are whoriarchies [I]n Saudi Arabia, two men have to vacate a bus seat for one woman. … So, we all know who Rosa Parks w…
/r/MensRights21/03/12 01:45 AM
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When I quote people, I provide links so people can see the comments in context. I cannot simply quote an entire thread, or a blog post and all its comments. Or the entire manosphere. Generally, as I've said, when I quote from r/mr, I quote comments that have been upvoted. I do that with the Spearhead and AVFM as well. If you think I'm misrepresenting anyone I have quoted, please give me an example.
/r/MensRights15/03/12 09:15 PM
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I'm guessing you weren't the captain of the debate team.
/r/MensRights15/03/12 08:07 PM
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r/mensrights is less misogynistic, overall, than most MR sites; it's one of the few on which people sometimes argue against and downvote misogyny. On sites like A Voice for Men and The Spearhead and MGTOWforums, misogyny is celebrated and upvoted. That said, r/mensrights is still infested with a lot of misogyny, which sometimes erupts into things like the thread I discuss here: http://manboobz.com/2012/03/06/mens-rights-redditors-to-rebecca-watson-how-dare-you-say-we-hate-women-you-cunt/ Other r…
/r/MensRights15/03/12 01:53 AM
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Yes you can. Go right ahead. I mention this reddit thread in my latest post.
/r/MensRights12/03/12 10:19 PM
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I didn't write it.
/r/MensRights12/03/12 10:06 PM
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I write about lots of MRA blogs/forums. It would be hard to write a piece about MRAs online without including a bunch of sites I write about. Or including r/mr, since it is one of the biggest, if not the biggest, MRA forums online. Sure, the author used my site as a resource. But he drew his own conclusions about the sites he wrote about. That's how journalism works.
/r/MensRights12/03/12 08:32 PM
2

Well, that's an interesting piece of fiction.
/r/MensRights12/03/12 08:01 PM
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Yes. They were flown to wikipedia headquarters by the monkeys that flew out of my butt.
/r/MensRights12/03/12 06:44 AM
2

I've criticized feminists I disagree with many times, over many years, in real life, online and in print. RadFems are a minority in the feminist movement, whereas in the MRM, extremists are the rule. (r/mensrights is one of the few MR sites/forums where anyone even stands up to challenge misogyny, at least some of the time.) I don't know any feminists calling for firebombing government buildings. I will happily denounce them if you can point them out to me.
/r/MensRights12/03/12 06:42 AM
-4

And who is making peaceful revolution impossible? You can vote, can't you? Organize protests? Circulate petitions? Seems to me these options might be worth exploring before moving on to, you know, terrorism.
/r/MensRights12/03/12 05:46 AM
-3

Fair enough. Anyone else want to disavow Ball?
/r/MensRights12/03/12 05:43 AM
-3

Uh, I'm not a fan of any of them. Bobbit isn't actually a feminist leader, or a feminist heroine, or even a feminist, as far as I know. But what the heck: I disavow Lorena Bobbit! And Solanas! And Morgan! And Dworkin! And Cruella DeVille! I sort of think this guy has the right idea about Dworkin: http://articles.latimes.com/1997-03-16/books/bk-38664_1_andrea-dworkin Oh, yeah, that guy is me.
/r/MensRights12/03/12 05:21 AM
0

Well, why embrace him? Why not disown him, and say, there is no place in our movement for those who advocate terrorism.
/r/MensRights12/03/12 04:44 AM
0

The question I am asking here is one that you guys should be asking yourselves.
/r/MensRights12/03/12 04:23 AM
-6

So you want to show you're not a hate group by embracing someone who called for men to firebomb courthouses and police stations and kill people?
/r/MensRights12/03/12 04:13 AM
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while curiously condoning on his own blog the comparing of men to animals, among other things. The rest of your comment is just wrong, but this part is WHAAAA? I honestly have no idea what you're talking about.
/r/MensRights09/03/12 09:17 AM
0

[citations needed]
/r/MensRights09/03/12 09:14 AM
1

I'll give you the answer to that right now: No, I did not write any of the articles there.
/r/MensRights09/03/12 03:55 AM
2

Once again: This person (with that little underscore at the end of manboobz_) is someone impersonating me and trolling you. And, once again, I have repeatedly asked the mods here to ban him. They have refused.
/r/MensRights27/02/12 08:44 PM
3

Pierce, are you aware that the author (Robert Weissberg) writes for a white nationalist website, VDARE, and that he has argued that black and hispanic students are dumber than whites (which he says is genetic)? http://www.vdare.com/articles/is-the-affirmative-action-frankenstein-on-its-last-legs http://www.newcriterion.com/articles.cfm/Sisyphus-goes-to-school-6281 Quote from the second link: No doubt the book will gain most notice because of its claim that certain sections of the American popula…
/r/MensRights15/02/12 06:48 AM
4

It's A DIFFERENT ACCOUNT. It's NOT ME. I would love it if the mods banned whoever it is.
/r/MensRights08/02/12 02:38 AM
2

As I stated before, none of your regulars challenged the accusation against him, nor did they respond with sympathy when he talked about his abuse. Well, I challenged Happy. Before I saw your post. You can choose to believe it or not, but that's true. Zarat has posted roughly 270 comments on my blog, virtually all of them hostile and vitriolic, many of them filled with namecalling and accusations of bigotry or worse. And many of them filled with, yes, lies about feminism and feminists. The animo…
/r/MensRights07/02/12 07:54 PM
-1

I posted my comments about Happy before I read your post. As I said before, rape victims are not immune from being criticized. Zarat had been posting on my site for a long time, saying many questionable things, before he ever told us about his abuse. The regular posters on my site responded with sympathy when he talked about the abuse, and in fact argued that his abuser deserved a far longer sentence than Zarat himself felt she should have gotten. They did not mock him for being abused.
/r/MensRights06/02/12 11:38 PM
0

I am 90% sure I know who it is, and that person is indeed a "he." How about this: if this person is revealed, and it turns out to be a woman, I will make a public apology and send you, personally, $5.
/r/MensRights06/02/12 11:06 PM
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Toysoldier has completely misrepresented what went on in that discussion. If you actually go and look at the discussion, you will see that the feminists commenting on my blog were arguing that the woman who raped the boy (now man) in question should have been given a much harsher sentence. There was one commenter (Happy) who said things that were offensive and inappropriate; contrary to Toysoldier's claim I did in fact take Happy to task for those comments, and would have banned him or her if th…
/r/MensRights06/02/12 07:21 AM
0

That's someone impersonating me, and trolling you. I've asked the mods many times to ban him. There is nothing funny about rape, no matter who or what gender the victim is.
/r/MensRights06/02/12 07:07 AM
1

That one can't. Notice the little _ at the end of his name. He's a troll impersonating me and posting crazy shit I don't believe. Mods?
/r/MensRights24/01/12 03:10 AM
1

Once again: This guy -- notice the little _ at the end of his name -- it a troll impersonating me and posting crazy shit I don't believe. Mods?
/r/MensRights24/01/12 03:09 AM
1

I don't know for sure. But I'm fairly certain, based on what he's written, that he is one of several MRAs I know to be male.
/r/MensRights21/01/12 11:12 PM
1

Really? He posts racist shit and people (some people at least) assume it's me? How is that not a bannable offense?
/r/MensRights21/01/12 03:19 AM
1

Once again: This guy -- notice the little _ at the end of his name -- it a troll impersonating me and posting crazy shit I don't believe. I've repeatedly asked the mods to ban him.
/r/MensRights20/01/12 10:43 PM
1

Once again: The guy you're responding to -- notice the little _ at the end of his name -- it a troll impersonating me and posting crazy shit I don't believe. I've repeatedly asked the mods to ban him.
/r/MensRights20/01/12 10:42 PM
1

I quote what people ACTUALLY SAY. I quote the biggest names in MRAland, along with their followers. If you honestly want to challenge me, why not respond to what I actually say? If you think I misrepresented someone on my blog, make a post about that. I don't go around pretending to be Paul Elam (or whoever) and posting stuff he didn't actually say. What you're doing is basically the equivalent of libel. Worse, really.
/r/MensRights16/01/12 11:40 PM
2

Once again: manboobz_ (with that little _ after the name) is some dude pretending to be me, and posting stuff that I don't actually believe. (I don't even understand this one.) For some reason, the mods won't ban him.
/r/MensRights16/01/12 11:11 PM
1

Once again: manboobz_ (with that little _ after the name) is some dude pretending to be me, and posting stuff that I don't actually believe. For some reason, the mods won't ban him.
/r/MensRights16/01/12 11:09 PM
1

Then I suggest you get the mods to ban the impersonator, so I can get back to making myself look bad with my own words.
/r/MensRights16/01/12 11:07 PM
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manboobz_ (with that little _ after the name) is pretending to be me, and posting insane shit to make me look bad. For some reason, the mods refuse to ban him.
/r/MensRights16/01/12 03:38 AM
1

manboobz_ (with that little _ after the name) is pretending to be me, and posting insane shit to make me look bad. For some reason, the mods refuse to ban him.
/r/MensRights16/01/12 03:37 AM
2

manboobz_ (with that little _ after the name) is pretending to be me, and posting insane shit to make me look bad. For some reason, the mods refuse to ban him.
/r/MensRights16/01/12 03:36 AM
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manboobz_ (with that little _ after the name) is pretending to be me, and posting insane shit to make me look bad. So you're arguing with a troll. For some reason, the mods refuse to ban him.
/r/MensRights16/01/12 03:36 AM
1

Thanks!
/r/MensRights12/01/12 02:44 AM
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Except that it is not "his" blog. It's mine. This guy is a troll impersonating me. Notice the _ at the end of his name. I do agree that he should be banned.
/r/MensRights12/01/12 12:05 AM
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This guy is a troll impersonating me. Notice the _ at the end of his name. I don’t believe any of this shit. I have repeatedly asked the mods to ban him; they have refused.
/r/MensRights12/01/12 12:05 AM
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Just so you know, the troll here is the impersonator who's got a _ after his name.
/r/MensRights11/01/12 07:44 AM
-1

I believe you have completely failed to prove your point. Did you actually read today's post there, or did your brain simply explode when you saw a picture of Randy Savage? Also, I didnt' come up with the term "manosphere." Some dudes in the, er, manosphere did.
/r/MensRights11/01/12 12:41 AM
1

Sigh. This guy is a troll impersonating me; notice the _ after his name. I don't believe any of this; it's vile shit. Again, I've asked the mods to ban this guy; they apparently think he's hilarious.
/r/MensRights10/01/12 09:52 PM
0

Manboobz_ is a troll impersonating me. naive, could you point out something misandrist that I (not this impersonator) have said on my blog? An actual quote? Clearly, if you've looked at the blog and concluded that the blog is "pretty misandrist" you should have several examples at hand.
/r/MensRights10/01/12 09:47 PM
-1

Once again, a troll impersonating me. Notice the _ after his name.
/r/MensRights10/01/12 09:44 PM
1

Mods, please ban this troll, who is impersonating me and saying racist shit. (Notice that he's got a little _ after his name.)
/r/MensRights10/01/12 06:03 AM
1

He's a troll. See the little _ after his name. He's impersonating me, and posting things that I don't believe.
/r/MensRights10/01/12 06:01 AM
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Notice that he's got a little _ after his name. I've asked the mods repeatedly to ban him. If people here want to attack my blog, or criticize me, have at it. But letting this asshole post stuff as if he is me, and waste everyone's time responding to a troll, seems rather counterproductive for everyone.
/r/MensRights10/01/12 06:00 AM
0

Mods, please ban this troll.
/r/MensRights10/01/12 05:57 AM
0

I once made a joke involving conspiracy theorists' fixation on imaginary Jewish conspiracies, and he decided that that meant I was anti-Semitic.
/r/MensRights28/11/11 12:18 PM
0

Other feminists call transphobic radfems out on their transphobia all the time, actually.
/r/MensRights12/11/11 09:18 PM
1

One man? Fred.
/r/MensRights12/11/11 11:31 AM
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I have gone to the admins and so far have not gotten a response. It's not slander for me to say that the r/mr mods have refused to ban the imposters. It's a fact. AnnArchist has flatly refused a direct request and says he thinks it's funny that people will assume that stuff the imposters say is actually from me.
/r/MensRights01/11/11 08:34 AM
0

Actually, until recently I was banned here. When Kloo left I was unbanned.
/r/MensRights01/11/11 08:21 AM
1

Actually, it is: You may not impersonate, imitate or pretend to be somebody else when using the Website. http://www.reddit.com/help/useragreement (Notice: No underscores before or after my user name; I'm the real guy.)
/r/MensRights01/11/11 08:18 AM
1

You believe every word he says. [citation needed]
/r/MensRights26/10/11 09:24 PM
1

Uh, that guy is not Futrelle. I'm Futrelle. That guy is a troll impersonating me -- notice the little underscore after his name. And if you check our comment histories you'll see that his account is a couple of days old, mine a year old. I've asked the mods to ban him (and his two other accounts) but they won't. You can safely assume that I believe none of the shit he posts.
/r/MensRights26/10/11 08:45 PM
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Once again, this is a troll impersonating me. Notice the little underscore after his name.
/r/MensRights26/10/11 08:41 PM
1

Yes I have, but they won't. AnnArchist thinks it's "hilarious" that someone might mistake these idiots for me.
/r/MensRights26/10/11 08:38 PM
2

And you could punch yourself in the face and claim someone else did it. I guess we should just never arrest anyone.
/r/MensRights26/10/11 05:13 AM
4

It's mandatory if there is evidence of violence. Here's a look at "mandatory arrest" state statutes (put together by a group that's actually anti-mandatory arrests). They all require that there be evidence of violence. http://www.saveservices.org/dvlp/policy-briefings/what-are-the-state-laws-that-mandate-arrest-for-dv-assault/
/r/MensRights26/10/11 05:11 AM
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Mandatory arrest doesn't mean someone gets arrested every time there's a DV call. It means there's a mandatory arrest if there is evidence of violence, like visible bruises for example.
/r/MensRights26/10/11 03:49 AM
1

Most DV shelters rely primarily on donations; the % they get from the govt. covers only a small portion of expenses. Most DV shelters also offer assistance for men -- hotel vouchers so they have a place to say, and other assistance. Once upon a time there were no shelters for women or men. Did the govt. come along and just hand out money? No. Activists worked hard to start up and fund and run the shelters, facing enormous resistance all the way. And it took a lot of lobbying to get any assistanc…
/r/MensRights21/10/11 10:28 AM
1

Complaining is different than harassing the donors to a shelter. Like I said, I have no issue with Sacks complaining about the ads. I disagree with his interpretation of the ads, but he's certainly entitled to criticize an ad campaign he doesn't like. But he went over the line when he called on his supporters to launch a phone campaign targeting the donors to the shelter. Also, your analogy here fails; it's not a "stereotype" that men commit the vast majority of rapes; it's a simple fact. Men do…
/r/MensRights20/10/11 10:34 PM
0

That's not analogous to what Sacks did. he didn't simply complain: he actively tried to hinder the fundraising efforts of a shelter. If a woman tried to take money away from a men's shelter, I would have a problem with that too.
/r/MensRights20/10/11 07:16 AM
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I'm not going to try to have a substantive discussion with you on this issue in a subreddit where there are three separate accounts impersonating me and poisoning the well. Convince the mods to ban the imposters and maybe we can talk.
/r/MensRights20/10/11 01:05 AM
1

If you "take away" that "overall sentiment" you either didn't read anything on the blog or you're hallucinating.
/r/MensRights20/10/11 12:51 AM
1

So on top of lying about me, typical for you, you're now defending people who are impersonating me in order to smear me with views I don't actually hold, and that in many cases I have explicitly argued against. That says a lot about you.
/r/MensRights19/10/11 09:02 PM
1

I'm opposed to circumcision.
/r/MensRights19/10/11 08:55 PM
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Instead of doing something constructive like trying to raise money for a male shelter, Sacks was trying to harm the fundraising efforts of a shelter that, while aimed at women, also provided help to male victims of abuse. Sacks' campaign was intended to take resources away from abuse victims. How on earth is calling this out an example of misandry? Sacks also didn't bother to talk to the people in charge of the shelter to raise the issues he had with their ads before launching his campaign; he s…
/r/MensRights19/10/11 08:54 PM
1

Who are you talking to here, me or the impersonator(s) misrepresenting my views?
/r/MensRights19/10/11 12:36 PM
0

Uh, I have never ever in my life argued that it's good for men to become victims of paternity fraud. Because I don't think that. Where do you get this shit from? I'm not misandrist. If you think you have some actual evidence that I am, please show it to me.
/r/MensRights19/10/11 12:34 PM
1

I think you are impersonating yourself so you can blog about it and blame everything on r/MR to make us look bad. I'm not impersonating myself. If the mods want r/mr to look good, they could ban the impersonators. They have refused to. Of course, if you're really, honestly convinced this is a devious plan to make r/mr look bad, why aren't YOU demanding that the mods ban the imposters -- wouldn't that foil my devious (imaginary) plan?
/r/MensRights19/10/11 12:30 PM
-1

Namecalling and telling someone to "get stuffed" is really not much of an argument.
/r/MensRights19/10/11 12:27 PM
1

If you can't tell the difference between someone suggesting that men should be raped (the troll above) and someone who is, you know, opposed to men getting raped (me), then I'm not sure I can help you.
/r/MensRights19/10/11 12:25 PM
1

I don't know why the underscores got left out. _manboobz manboobz_
/r/MensRights19/10/11 09:03 AM
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So you guys can't actually challenge anything I actually write, so instead you make up shit I don't believe, and attack me for that. Brilliant.
/r/MensRights19/10/11 08:38 AM
0

Not exactly, in that I don't agree with anything the impersonator is saying here, or in any of his or her other comments. In fact, most of what the impersonator has posted is pretty much the opposite of what I believe.
/r/MensRights19/10/11 08:37 AM
1

If by "accurate" you mean that they "accurately" represent opinions I don't actually hold and that in most cases I violently disagree with.
/r/MensRights19/10/11 08:35 AM
1

Uh, I've never denied that men can be raped because, uh, they can be raped. Rape is rape. Men are traumatized by it just as women are.
/r/MensRights19/10/11 08:31 AM
3

There are people in this very thread who can't tell.
/r/MensRights19/10/11 08:29 AM
1

Well, no, because the comment you're referring to was posted by a troll with a one-day old account who's going around posting shit that I don't agree with under my name. He's got two other troll accounts as well, manboobz_ and _manboobz (notice the clever use of underscores there).
/r/MensRights19/10/11 08:28 AM
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meninist is talking about my comment pointing out that "David_Futrelle" is a troll posting under my real name. I agree that the troll's comment is obnoxious (both in itself and because it's being posted under my name).
/r/MensRights19/10/11 08:23 AM
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Troll impersonating me. Please ignore.
/r/MensRights18/10/11 10:31 PM
-3

Troll impersonating me. Please ignore.
/r/MensRights18/10/11 10:17 PM
-4

Troll impersonating me. Please ignore.
/r/MensRights18/10/11 10:17 PM
-7

Troll impersonating me. Please ignore.
/r/MensRights18/10/11 10:17 PM
1

Troll impersonating me. Ignore.
/r/MensRights18/10/11 08:24 PM
0

And again the three-day old troll account impersonating me is having conversations with one of the one-day-old troll accounts impersonating me.
/r/MensRights18/10/11 08:23 PM
-1

Great, so now the three-day old troll account impersonating me is having conversations with the one-day-old troll account impersonating me.
/r/MensRights18/10/11 08:19 PM
1

This is the same troll who is impersonating me with two other accounts. Ignore him.
/r/MensRights18/10/11 01:01 PM
1

Another account impersonating me. Brilliant.
/r/MensRights18/10/11 12:58 PM
1

And now there are two impersonators.
/r/MensRights18/10/11 12:43 PM
1

The women assaulted him, but his reaction went well beyond self-defense (he literally beat them when they were down, fracturing one of the women's skulls). They should all be charged with crimes, but his were much more severe than theirs.
/r/MensRights18/10/11 11:54 AM
-3

He's being downvoted because he's a troll impersonating me.
/r/MensRights17/10/11 11:16 PM
0

I requested the mods here ban him. (Impersonating someone is a violation of Reddiquette.) AnnArchist's response, and this is an exact quote: "Not a chance." Stay classy!
/r/MensRights16/10/11 11:48 PM
5

... says the guy who posts links to "white pride" websites and says he's not racist.
/r/MensRights16/10/11 01:11 AM
0

Could you point me to me an example of me saying anything resembling the comment by manboobz_ above? Thanks!
/r/MensRights15/10/11 11:27 PM
3

Really? Someone spouting ridiculous stuff that bears absolutely no resemblance to anything I actually believe is a good impersonation?
/r/MensRights15/10/11 11:17 PM
2

In case you haven't figured it out, this person (manboobz_) is impersonating me (manboobz). I don't agree with anything posted by this guy (or gal).
/r/MensRights15/10/11 11:14 PM
1

In case you haven't figured it out, this person (manboobz_) is impersonating me (manboobz). I don't agree with anything posted by this guy (or gal).
/r/MensRights15/10/11 11:13 PM
1

In case you haven't figured it out, this person (manboobz_) is impersonating me (manboobz). I don't agree with anything posted by this guy (or gal).
/r/MensRights15/10/11 11:13 PM
4

In case you haven't figured it out, this person (manboobz_) is impersonating me (manboobz). I don't agree with anything posted by this guy (or gal).
/r/MensRights15/10/11 11:10 PM
5

Uh, no, that guy is not me. He's got an underscore after his name. Needless to say, I don't actually endorse rape.
/r/MensRights15/10/11 11:08 PM
2

Yeah, in case there is anyone out there actually fooled by this doofus, he's not me. Isn't impersonating someone else a big Reddit no-no?
/r/MensRights15/10/11 11:06 PM
1

Why do you assume that the prof thinks it's funny? Professors often have students look at things that reflect certain viewpoints; that doesn't mean that they personally endorse everything that they have students read.
/r/MensRights14/10/11 10:53 PM
1

Uh, no I don't. That's why I put the word "humor" in quotes.
/r/MensRights14/10/11 10:48 PM
-2

You really don't get this do you? There is a difference between HAVING STUDENTS READ THINGS and ACTUALLY ENDORSING THE THINGS THEY'RE READING. By your logic a history professor having students reading excerpts of Mein Kampf is a Nazi; an English teacher having students read Huck Finn is a racist, because Huck uses the n-word. I'm not sure if you're really this obtuse, or so convinced that all feminists are evil monsters that everything they do is eeeevil.
/r/MensRights14/10/11 10:47 PM
-1

No, the response is a piece of "humor" the prof has found online. Presumably the point of posting it is to discuss the attitudes in it, alongside the attitudes of the first piece, not to endorse murder. http://www.robinsweb.com/humor/good_wife_ro.html You all really need to tone down your paranoia. Feminist academics really don't spend all of their time thinking about killing men.
/r/MensRights14/10/11 08:18 AM
3

Did you actually read any of the news reports? The guy had custody of his son. He was trying to further limit his ex's access to their son; that's why they were in court.
/r/MensRights14/10/11 05:00 AM
4

As I've pointed out before, he had custody of his son. He was trying to further limit his ex's access to his son.
/r/MensRights14/10/11 04:58 AM
7

Again, as I mentioned in the other thread, the shooter had primary custody of his kid; he was trying to reduce his ex's visitation rights.
/r/MensRights14/10/11 04:57 AM
0

The Law Men? The Law Club for Men? Man's Country (of Law) The Men in Black (Black's Law Dictionary, that is.) Legal Eagles (Who Are Dudes)
/r/MensRights14/10/11 04:39 AM
5

So just send your kids off to live with a violent unstable person, because if you challenge them in court, they might kill you and/or others?
/r/MensRights14/10/11 01:50 AM
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Well, we don't know if the claims (on either side) are true. But it's your logic that's really perverse here: So if you think your ex is nuts, you shouldn't challenge them in court when they try to get sole custody of your kid?
/r/MensRights14/10/11 01:17 AM
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What are you talking about? Both sides made claims about the other. And "don't poke the bear?" Don't challenge dudes because they might snap and murder 9 people in cold blood?
/r/MensRights14/10/11 01:03 AM
5

AS I understand it, DeKraai was actually given primary custody of his kid; his ex wife had visitation. He was trying to get full custody and further limit his ex's contact with the kid; that's what the court battles were about. Some details here: http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/killed-southern-california-salon-shooting-14726413
/r/MensRights14/10/11 12:10 AM
-1

The folks on Fathers and Families call themselves Fathers Rights Activists, not MRAs, and basically want nothing to do with the MRA as it exists today. And almost no MRAs online talk about or have anything to do with it.
/r/MensRights13/10/11 10:38 AM
0

you will come to understand how MRM has accomplished the handful of reforms that have already been brought about Seriously? Name one reform. The MRM does two things well: 1) complain about shit online and 2) harass individuals. That's pretty much it.
/r/MensRights13/10/11 06:37 AM
-5

The rule in r/mr is that any allegations against women are true, and any against men are false.
/r/MensRights13/10/11 06:20 AM
1

Given that your comments about me are blatantly false, I'm not inclined to accept your version of events on this show either. But I haven't seen the episode, aside from the brief preview you linked to, so I'll just leave you to your own reality for now.
/r/MensRights12/10/11 11:47 PM
1

You broke character for that?
/r/MensRights12/10/11 11:42 PM
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the female judge, who has a history of misandry and telling guys to "man up" I don't know if you realize this, but the whole point of watching these daytime fake court shows is that you get to watch the cranky "judges" yell at people for being liars and idiots. "Judge" Milian yells at women and rules against them all the time too. Also, I haven't seen this episode, but from the little clip you linked to, the positioning of the cars would suggest that, yes, his car hit hers, not the other way aro…
/r/MensRights12/10/11 11:44 AM
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So why do people here need to read so many of these WBB stories? Are there a lot of r/mr readers who think "that women are more fragile, gentle, loving, caring, honest, and are morally superior to men?" Actually, do you know anyone at all who thinks that women don't behave badly, commit crimes, fart, have bad breath, etc etc? I mean, I haven't taken a survey, but it seems to me that pretty much everyone on the face of the earth is aware of that.
/r/MensRights12/10/11 11:31 AM
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I love that pro-woman stance of yours!
/r/MensRights12/10/11 10:19 AM
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I've read it already. It's a pretty incoherent, illogical rant, and much of it doesn't apply here since there's no evidence that she's getting different treatment because she's a woman. Also if the point of posting these women-behaving-badly stories to show that "the empress has no clothes," whatever that means, doesn't this one also show that "the emperor has no clothes" also, given that her boyfriend has also been charged with the same crimes? (Well, minus the bestiality.) On and if you want p…
/r/MensRights12/10/11 09:52 AM
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How exactly is this a MR issue? Is the fact that she was released on bail supposed to be an example of what you folks call "the pussy pass?" Because her boyfriend, also charged with child molestation, was also released. Do you all just really really really like to read about women (allegedly) committing crimes? Just set up a Google Alert for "woman arrested." Ta-da! (Allegedly) bad women in your inbox every day!
/r/MensRights12/10/11 06:37 AM
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That still doesn't make it a real court.
/r/MensRights12/10/11 06:30 AM
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You do know that People's Court is not a real court, right?
/r/MensRights12/10/11 04:21 AM
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And you make the exact same mistake: comparing the ESTIMATED number of rapes of men in prison (based on SURVEY RESULTS) with the number of rapes of women REPORTED TO AUTHORITIES. If you look at reported rapes, you are ignoring all the rapes that aren't reported. It's not a real comparison. Also, you're not even compariing rapes and rapes; you're comparing sexual abuse in prison with reported rapes outside of prison. Sexual abuse is a broader category than rape. So again you're stacking the deck …
/r/MensRights08/10/11 10:20 PM
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Alanna, did you not read my "edited to add" bit? The stuff you're complaining about and calling "misandry" is a quote from Miurray Straus, the guy whose research underpins the "gender symmetry" research MRAs love to cite so much. I put it in there to see if you would call it misandry, and lo and behold you did. Congrats! So everyone who suggests that women are injured more than men, which they are, is a misandrist. You can find the quote and the source here. I don't believe that women are superi…
/r/MensRights08/10/11 10:14 PM
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Fiebert's bibliography is an extremely biased piece of work, reflecting only a portion of the research on the subject, which ignores the vast amount of research which makes clear that women face much more severe violence from men. Yes, of course, women do commit a large amount of violence, but if you look at the consequences of violence -- for example, the severity of injuries -- women suffer far more from DV than men. For more on this, see this post on my blog. For a detailed scholarly critique…
/r/MensRights08/10/11 11:52 AM
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You're making a rather large error here because this is not a clean comparison. Yes, the estimated number of rapes of men in prison exceeds the number of reported rapes of women outside of prison. This is an apples to oranges comparison. Most rapes, inside prison and outside of it, are not reported to authorities, so naturally the estimated number is larger than the number reported to authorities. You need to compare estimated rapes with estimated rapes, or reported rapes with reported rapes, no…
/r/MensRights08/10/11 11:41 AM
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We were talking about the behavior of men, which is why I referred to the behavior of men. I am aware that women can be violent. But the "men and women are equally violent" thing? A favorite MRA talking point, but not actually true. Women are physically injured to the point of needing medical attention seven times as often as husbands, they suffer psychological injury at much higher rates. The first priority in services for victims and in prevention and control must continue to be directed towar…
/r/MensRights07/10/11 02:24 AM
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No, he's telling the truth. The monkeys flying out of my ass talked to her too.
/r/MensRights06/10/11 11:02 PM
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Woah, Offensive_Brute says something that actually makes a lot of sense.
/r/MensRights06/10/11 10:55 PM
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All right, looking at the Jezebel piece I can see why you'd consider misandrist. At least the tone of it; I don't think its argument is. I'll accept that as one example, though I see it as a borderline case. The comments of Pandagon? No. They're talking about a specific subset of guys who act in a particular way towards women, so of course the name that's used is gendered, though it's hardly as nasty as gendered terms like "whore" and "slut" and "skank" that get thrown around here all the time. …
/r/MensRights06/10/11 01:52 AM
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<Your entire gripe with our subreddit is one big strawman, built out of unpopular comments. That's not actually true, as you would know if you'd actually looked at the posts I've made about r/mr. Look at my post today, which quotes a r/mr comment -- and lo and behold, it's one that got upvotes. It's true that I quote some unpopular quotes sometimes -- but when I do, I specifically mention that they have been voted down. I did a couple of posts on AntiFeministMedia, and noted that he typically ge…
/r/MensRights06/10/11 01:43 AM
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Given that I published articles critical of Dworkinite feminism back in the 90s, I'm sort of way ahead of you on this, dude.
/r/MensRights05/10/11 08:46 AM
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You honestly think you've proved your point that the "SRS / AMR crew" laugh at male homelessness, by citing a comment that has nothing to do with male homelessness?
/r/MensRights05/10/11 08:42 AM
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The question we were discussing was whether anything on my blog, or on any of the feminist blogs I link to, was clearly misandrist. The piece you cite here is indeed misandrist. (Yes, there are some feminists who are misandrists.) But I don't link to that blog on my web site because ... it's misandrist. So yes, you have shown that someone who is not me, and who I have no connection with, is misandrist. Congatulations.
/r/MensRights05/10/11 08:25 AM
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That link doesn't support your point at all.
/r/MensRights05/10/11 02:51 AM
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Where have SRS and AMR people mocked men in poverty?
/r/MensRights05/10/11 01:58 AM
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So pointing out hatred is fomenting hatred? Here's a bit of advice: if you don't want the lgbt community to look on this "olive branch" with suspicion, you should weed out the homophobic and transphobic bigots in your midst. Tell then they're not welcome here or in the MRM in general. Challenge them when they spout bigotry -- and not just because it makes you look bad. Don't make someone who's made violent comments about transwomen a mod of the subreddit. Don't try to slice and dice the lgbt com…
/r/MensRights05/10/11 01:49 AM
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You wrote me an epic reply full of quotes that were not misandrist. I've asked you to explain why you think they're misandrist. If you're nto willing to explain why, say, discussing the phenomenon of "Nice Guys" is misandrist,you really haven't provided any real evidence, even though you provided a bunch of quotes.
/r/MensRights04/10/11 10:10 PM
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What happened to him was no less of an injustice, obviously. In many cases, obviously, attractive women victims get a lot more attention than men, less attractive women, etc. But in Knox's case this seems a churlish complaint, because it was her name that was smeared all over the press as evil "foxy knoxy." She was attacked and vilified to a large extent BECAUSE she was an attractive young woman -- or, as she was portrayed in the media, as an evil satanic slut. Her case had a lot in common with …
/r/MensRights04/10/11 08:59 AM
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Perhaps something could indicate that in the logo. Maybe something like "we pretend to give a shit about gays, but it's just for this one month." EDITED TO ADD: Also, I designed a logo for r/mr based on the discussion here the last time this issue came up. You can use it if you want.
/r/MensRights04/10/11 04:46 AM
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and many men seem to have a propensity to play the white knight. And many men seem to have a propensity to harm women as well. (And to harm other men, of course.)
/r/MensRights04/10/11 04:21 AM
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How were any of the comments you presented (besides the ones from Eve bit first) misandrist? You haven't presented me with an argument to disagree with; you simply asserted that they were misandrist. I could quote this comment of yours (that I'm responding to) and say it was misogynist. That wouldn't count as evidence, because I could not give an explanation as to why it was misogynist. If you cannot explain why the things you quoted were misandrist, what you presented is not evidence. And if yo…
/r/MensRights04/10/11 04:20 AM
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No, I don't think women are "sitting there waiting" for anything, as I am aware that women have agency. I was simply trying to turn the premise of the original comment back on itself by essentially asking: if you think women need protection from men, who is it that they need protecting from? You suggested that women also needed protection from animals and famine, etc. I was simply trying to point out that when faced with things like famine, hurricanes, etc, that women don't sit around waiting fo…
/r/MensRights03/10/11 10:04 PM
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So in times of famine, women simply sit at home waiting for their men to bring them bon bons? When there's a hurricane the women just take a nap and wait for the men to do all the work? I'm also curious: have you ever protected a woman from an animal, from famine, from environmental conditions?
/r/MensRights03/10/11 08:25 PM
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So because a man came out of a woman's vagina, the owner of said vagina is responsible for any bad things he does?
/r/MensRights03/10/11 08:22 PM
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Of course, the vast majority of those that women need protecting from are also men. So are men hardwired to both attack and protect women?
/r/MensRights03/10/11 09:02 AM
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You linked to several articles form blogs I linked to that weren't misandrist; the one example of actual misandry you posted was from a blog I don't link to. I don't link to it because it's a misandrist blog. The MRA blogs I post about -- which make up the mainstream of the MRM movement online -- regularly post things arguing that women are inferior to men, that they belong in the home, that they should not be allowed to vote, that rape victims are "asking for it." That's pretty straightforward …
/r/MensRights02/10/11 11:36 PM
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Every quotation on my blog is linked to its source.
/r/MensRights01/10/11 10:37 PM
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Ah, I hadn't yet looked at your little subreddit. Why on earth would I defend what these people are saying? What they're saying is terrible.
/r/MensRights01/10/11 01:42 AM
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So you're going with the whole "make accusation, provide no proof, demand that the accused find proof" strategy.
/r/MensRights01/10/11 12:57 AM
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Here's a discussion of kloo's conspiracy thingy: http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/k84pg/can_we_get_rid_of_the_conspiracy_bit_in_the/ Most of those commenting and/or voting are against it, but there's a significant minority who agree there is a conspiracy. It's a minority, sure, but compared to most groups I hang out with that's a lot. And again, like I said, the comment I was responding to was a cosnpiracy-minded comment by someone who seems (if you look at his comment history) to be …
/r/MensRights01/10/11 12:43 AM
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I have stated clearly numerous times that I was being sarcastic. I showed you that I write about anti-Semitism reguarly on my blog. a/mr does not oppose rights for men; it's opposed to the so-called "Men's Rights Movement." Also, I'm a man and I'm not bigoted against myself.
/r/MensRights01/10/11 12:25 AM
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people are trying to take the piss with you by cherry picking and decontextualizing/reframing this comment as that is something a lot of us believe you have done with this sub in the past. MR redditors love making accusations and insinuations about what I do on my blog, but they never actually provide evidence for them. Show me a single example where I have taken a statement out of context in a way that distorts what someone has said, much less suggested that they are saying the opposite of what…
/r/MensRights01/10/11 12:04 AM
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Oy. This is really not that complicated. I'm saying I should be allowed to make fun of conspiracy theorists even if they don't literally make up 50% of a subreddit. Even if only 20% are conspiracy theorists, that's a lot of conspiracy theorists.
/r/MensRights01/10/11 12:00 AM
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So in other words you realize that I was being sarcastic, but you'll continue to attack me for it anyway. Great. And you'll call me a bigot because you've "seen" my blog. My blog which is not in fact bigoted. If you're going to call me a bigot, could you perhaps give me a specific example of me saying something bigoted on my blog? I keep asking the people here who call me a bigot to provide actual evidence for this claim, but no one ever provides any. If I'm such a big bigot, wouldn't this evide…
/r/MensRights30/09/11 11:58 PM
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So people shouldn't make jokes about conspiracy theorists unless you take a poll to prove that a majority here believes in conspiracy theory?
/r/MensRights30/09/11 11:48 PM
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You know, when MRAs post sarcastic comments, guess. what -- I don't quote them, or if I do I note clearly that they are being sarcastic.
/r/MensRights30/09/11 11:46 PM
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Hmm. What's this I see in the sidebar? kloo2yoo believes that there is an international, feminist, antimale conspiracy, and encourages peaceful, but direct, action against it.
/r/MensRights30/09/11 11:41 PM
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How is a joke about conspiracy theory not relevant in a subreddit that has this in its sidebar: kloo2yoo believes that there is an international, feminist, antimale conspiracy, and encourages peaceful, but direct, action against it. The comment I responded to (and the whole topic here) seems a bit conspiracy-theory-ish to me. So I responded with a small joke. Evidently this subreddit can't take a joke, literally. Scott2508 is bizarrely accusing me of anti-Semitism because I mocked anti-Semites (…
/r/MensRights30/09/11 11:38 PM
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As I have repeatedly explained, you have completely and utterly misread my comments.
/r/MensRights30/09/11 11:19 PM
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As I said before, I wasn't mocking Jews, I was mocking conspiracy theorists. I probably should have just said "Illuminati" instead of Jews. Oy. EDITED TO ADD: If you don't believe me, I have a category on my blog devoted to challenging anti-Semitism: http://manboobz.com/category/anti-semitism/
/r/MensRights30/09/11 08:07 PM
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Oh, he's free to break up with her, as I said before. And maybe I'm reading too much passive-aggressiveness into what he said. It's just that I've seen a lot of comments in the advice subreddits that basically argue for doing exactly what I was complaining about -- "you can get your gf to lose weight by joining a gym and suggesting she come along with you! She'll never know you think she's too fat!" Well, yeah, she will know.
/r/MensRights30/09/11 07:46 PM
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I was making a joke about conspiracy theorists, not about Jews.
/r/MensRights30/09/11 06:38 PM
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Well, but what motivated him, as he plainly admits, is that he doesn't like how she looks. In any case, nagging, and/or passively aggressively trying to nudge, someone to make a change in their life -- even one that would be good for the -- generally a) doesn't work and b) makes them feel shitty about themselves. People who are fat and/or do not get enough exercise are generally aware that they are fat and/or not getting enough exercise. They don't need reminders, especially if they're passive-a…
/r/MensRights30/09/11 06:31 PM
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Honest question here: what have I done that's like what I accuse MRAs of doing? Most of my comments have been defending myself (and feminists generally) against bullshit said about me (and feminists generally). Yes, I made a sarcastic remark here. Is making a sarcastic comment now and again verboten? One of the regulars found it funny, even. It seems to me that the person you should be chiding is the regular commenter here who replied to my remark with a genuinely antisemtitic crack ( "Jewstein …
/r/MensRights30/09/11 06:22 PM
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Well, you could always read her book, or even just read about it, rather than simply assume you know what it says based on nothing whatsoever. Most of the book is devoted to looking in detail at the actual experiences of a number of girls who were slut-shamed.
/r/MensRights30/09/11 09:07 AM
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Also, probably, the Jews. They're always pulling this sort of shit.
/r/MensRights30/09/11 08:55 AM
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Feminists actually talk about female slut shamers a good deal. The book Slut, by Leora Tanenbaum (who is, yes, a feminist), looks at slut-shaming (in high school mostly); she focuses most of her attention on girls as slut shamers.
/r/MensRights30/09/11 08:53 AM
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Exactly. OP: you are allowed to break up with someone for any reason you want; if you really don't feel you have anything in common with her, as you say, then you shouldn't be together. The flip side of this is that other people are allowed to think that you've acted badly. Why on earth would you expect her friends to like what you've done? (And why are you even still talking to them if they're her friends?) The only creepy thing about your post, badguy, is that you seem to have been badgering h…
/r/MensRights30/09/11 07:41 AM
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I suppose I was being too polite. So let me be more direct: What you've written is a caricature of male feminists that bears no resemblance to the vast majority of male feminists out there. There ARE some guys who act like the guys you are describing, but they really aren't feminists, or at least not good feminists -- they're "NiceGuys" who'e picked up some feminist lingo because they think it will ingratiate them with women. They can be pretty self-loathing. But ultimately they are also manipul…
/r/MensRights30/09/11 07:27 AM
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Like I said, give me some actual evidence of genuine misandry from any of the big, mainstream feminist sites. So far all I've seen is one (admittedly appalling) post from Jezebel from 4 years ago, some misandry from one RAdFem site that's regularly critiqued by other feminists for being misandrist, and some comments that simply aren't misandrist. The MR sites I link to on my blog aren't "fringe" sites in the MR. THEY ARE THE MAINSTREAM. There are a tiny number of MRA sites that aren't crawling w…
/r/MensRights30/09/11 07:18 AM
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Yes, as a white guy, when I look in the mirror, I see nothing! I am invisible! Though that might be because I'm a vampire.
/r/MensRights29/09/11 09:34 PM
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Oy. The stuff you cited from that Jezebel piece wasn't misandrist. But Eve Bit First? Yep. It has misandrist shit on it, including the thing you posted here. I'm sure you could find more there. It's an obnoxious RadFem blog. I don't agree with it; I don't put it up in my sidebar. Some feminists are misandrists. I never said otherwise. But the fact is that most feminists aren't. There are a handful of feminist sites that are misandrist; there are a much greater number that aren't, where misandris…
/r/MensRights29/09/11 09:29 PM
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Again, that's not actually what I said. But at this point I know not to expect MRAs to honestly represent anything I say or do, so I suppose this is just par for the course. Enjoy your delusions.
/r/MensRights29/09/11 08:03 AM
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I have the debate up on my blog as well. Make sure you read this one, too. And try to read it a bit more carefully than you read the rest of my contributions to the debate, if you actually read them at all: http://manboobz.blogspot.com/2010/10/paul-elams-big-mistake-on-domestic.html
/r/MensRights29/09/11 07:41 AM
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Drugs that are not harmful do not have entire forums dedicated to them. Um, yeah they do. The fact that a bunch of people on the internet hate something enough to make a forum about it doesn't actually mean that thing is bad. I mean, by your logic, r/mr must be harmful because there is a forum -- r/againstmensrights -- that's devoted itself to fighting against r/mr. .... directed by M. Night Shyamalam!
/r/MensRights29/09/11 07:24 AM
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What Tasha is talking about really isn't "male feminists," but a subset of the "Nice Guy" who gloms onto some of the slogans of feminism in order to ingratiate himself with women. Yes, these guys exist. But they're pretty poor excuses for feminists -- like "nice Guys" generally, they manage to be self-loathing, creepy, and manipulative all at once. And ultimately they're too patronizing to women to be truly feminist. Most feminist men aren't like this, and find the sorts of guys you and Tasha ar…
/r/MensRights29/09/11 07:16 AM
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Hugo does not represent all male feminists.
/r/MensRights29/09/11 07:09 AM
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its like a man saying to his girlfriend "before I knew you, you were raped, ergo, I am a bastard". It makes no sense. It makes no sense because ... no one does this? If someone says that to his girlfriend, he's a self-hating idiot, but it has nothing to do with feminism.
/r/MensRights29/09/11 07:05 AM
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Well, if you're going to simply lie about what I said, we're done here.
/r/MensRights29/09/11 07:02 AM
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I have no interest in arguing the specifics of this article with you. I simply don't see how it is man-hating. Schools are not criminal courts, nor do they have the power to imprison anyone; they are not required to base their administrative penalties on the standards of criminal law. Students can lose their scholarships is they cheat and/or plagiarise too; schools are not obliged to hold the equivalent of a criminal trial before tossing out cheaters. That's not very fair, if you get to pick fro…
/r/MensRights29/09/11 07:00 AM
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Do you remember my final post in that debate showing that Elam's final post was complete and utter bullshit based on a complete misreading of the research he was talking about?
/r/MensRights29/09/11 06:37 AM
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So no more evidence, in other words. You're not doing very well here. I'm guessing you weren't in debate club.
/r/MensRights29/09/11 06:11 AM
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Just sharing my opinions with people on the internet. Why are you here?
/r/MensRights29/09/11 05:25 AM
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Trying to keep you folks honest.
/r/MensRights29/09/11 05:23 AM
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Not sure how I misses that link. But, I'm sorry, I don't agree that that post was misandrist. Sarcastic, sure, but sarcastically disagreeing with a piece in the WSJ isn't misandry. By contrast, when I talk about misogyny amongst MRAs, I'm referring to some pretty explicit woman-hating -- like this, found recently on one MRA blog: Women can only serve as mere functionaries in man-created structures. When an organization becomes feminized, priority shifts from efficient and profitable production o…
/r/MensRights29/09/11 05:19 AM
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Ah, Tasha, your memory of your posting experience on manboobz is a tiny bit selective. I went back and looked (I can search by the commenters names) and while it looks like, yes, some people thought you "had to be a man" you somehow forgot about the other commenters who called them on it, like for example, me: I'm with Cat here. Challenge Natasha's arguments; I have. But there's no reason to call her gender into question or to even make that an issue. Besides, I think most of the time when peopl…
/r/MensRights29/09/11 04:47 AM
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I'm not playing tit for tat; I'm asking you to back up this accusation with some evidence: You don't moderate comments that are misandrist, and you either actively endorse (through your own attitudes/comments) those comments or, you passively do so by either 'not seeing them' or intentionally turning a blind eye to them. Give me evidence of this, and I'll respond to it. Otherwise we're done.
/r/MensRights29/09/11 12:17 AM
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Now you're casting those who disagree with you about the facts of abuse as liars as well as man-haters. I stand behind everything I wrote in that debate. And I'm done discussing with you.
/r/MensRights29/09/11 12:14 AM
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FAIL I'm done.
/r/MensRights29/09/11 12:10 AM
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Find me the misandry, and I'll show you.
/r/MensRights29/09/11 12:10 AM
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So how exactly am I a bigot again? Can you point to a single bigoted thing I've ever said?
/r/MensRights28/09/11 11:26 PM
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How do I deny abuse? Women commit a significant amount of abuse. I acknowledge this every single time I mention abuse.
/r/MensRights28/09/11 11:24 PM
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How do I cover up abuse? How is my "ideology" misandrist? Arguing with you here is as pointless as it was arguing with you on manboobz. All you do is spew forth vague accusations over and over again.
/r/MensRights28/09/11 11:14 PM
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So everyone who disagrees with you and Radar on abuse is therefore a misandrist? Sorry, dude, but that's not really an argument.
/r/MensRights28/09/11 11:01 PM
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Given that r/mr still gets a shout-out in the r/whiterights sidebar, I'd say that at least SOME bigots don't feel scorn towards r/mr.
/r/MensRights28/09/11 10:58 PM
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What specific beliefs of mine on abuse are "misandrist?" How is the notion of "rape culture" misandrist? "Rape culture" is a widespread set of beliefs held by both men and women. Give me an specific example of one of the sites I link to "depicting abuse as something it is not." EXAMPLES. LINKS. Not vague rhetoric and accusations. PROVIDE EVIDENCE FOR YOUR ASSERTIONS.
/r/MensRights28/09/11 10:43 PM
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What on earth are you even talking about? You not only have a distorted view of feminism, but you seem to have absolutely no idea how the world works in general. Murder is good for the economy? Citation needed.
/r/MensRights28/09/11 10:38 PM
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I knew it was only a matter of time before someone cited that Jezebel article. Yes, that article was misandrist. We've discussed it on my blog; no one there has defended it. It was a terrible article. That article was published 4 years ago. Is that the only example you have? MR sites publish misogynist things every single day. See my blog for literally hundreds of examples.
/r/MensRights28/09/11 10:31 PM
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Then give me some examples from the comments. When I talk about misogyny in the MR movement, I give specific examples, with links.
/r/MensRights28/09/11 10:27 PM
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Then give me an example. Thing is, I don't moderate many comments, misogynist or misandrist. But the fact is that misandry, on the very rare occasions when it does show up in the comments, gets soundly challenged by the regular feminist commenters and by me.
/r/MensRights28/09/11 10:26 PM
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Well, no. And I didn't say you guys were being ignored right now. My guess is that the MRM will have a brief moment in the sun, will be soundly rejected by most people, and will drift back into obscurity.
/r/MensRights28/09/11 10:23 PM
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Give me an example where I "accept misandry." What does this even mean? On the rare occasion that someone on Man Boobz makes a misandrist statement, I and the feminist commenters challenge tham on it.
/r/MensRights28/09/11 10:21 PM
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Um, I simply noted that franco was wrong in assuming I knew Read. He may well have looked at Man Boobz. I hope he did, but I have no way of knowing.
/r/MensRights28/09/11 10:17 PM
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If they're so misandrist, go find examples of misandry on them, and give me some links. When I accuse MR sites of misogyny, I give specific evidence. So how about you do the same? Jezebel ran one egregiously misandrist post about 4 years ago; MR sites run egregiously misogynist posts every day.
/r/MensRights28/09/11 10:15 PM
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Yeah I do. Every day. Doesn't seem like you do. If you do, give me some specific examples of misandry.
/r/MensRights28/09/11 09:26 PM
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When did I say that misasndry is not a problem? The rest of your comment is just your usual blather.
/r/MensRights28/09/11 09:25 PM
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Pele Billing. Well, that's one, though judging from the small number of comments there and the fact that it's not linked to by most other MRA sites, it's actually more of a fringe site than the sites you consider fringe sites. As for the rest, show me a single misandrist thing I've ever said. One single example. One. I challenge you to find misandry on my site, or on any of the feminist sites I link to in my "antidotes" sidebar. Cite something specific. give a link.
/r/MensRights28/09/11 11:29 AM
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Well, then, Sigeoghan, it should be easy for you to give me a nice long list of MR sites where violent and/or frankly misogynistic talk is rare. So let's have some links. Oh, ok, I'll start. Here's a list of MR sites (and a few MGTOW sites and a few others that generally attract a MRA-heavy crowd) that are basically crawling with misogyny. You may notice that this list looks familiar. The Spearhead A Voice for Men The False Rape Society Roissy MGTOW forums NiceGuy’s MGTOW forum Happy Bachelors F…
/r/MensRights28/09/11 11:14 AM
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Sig, outside of r/mr, virtually all MR and MR-related sites are dominated by the people you're pretending are the "fringe" elements. Outside of r/mr and, say, Glenn Sacks, can you point me to any MR sites out there where misogyny is rare, or where it is at least challenged on a regular basis by the regulars there?
/r/MensRights28/09/11 11:04 AM
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I hate to break it to you, but sometimes this process gets derailed somewhere between the laughing and the fighting stage, and you end up back at "ignored."
/r/MensRights28/09/11 10:59 AM
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You're comparing MRAs to suffragettes? Interesting. You might want to run that by the guys at The Spearhead, see what they think of that: http://www.the-spearhead.com/2010/09/15/how-female-suffrage-destroyed-western-civilization/
/r/MensRights28/09/11 10:56 AM
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Never mind that this sort of violent talk is everywhere on MR blogs/forums. It must all be the work of feminist imposters!
/r/MensRights28/09/11 10:52 AM
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Ooh! Useful.
/r/MensRights28/09/11 10:49 AM
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I've never actually spoken to (or communicated in any way) with Mr. Reed. This is just how you guys come across to people who live in the reality based community.
/r/MensRights28/09/11 10:48 AM
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I asked you about what feminists you read/liked back in your days as a feminist because I'm generally skeptical of MRAs who claim to have been feminists; most of them I've run across (like MRAs generally) don't actually seem to know shit about feminism. Like, literally nothing beyond a few scary quotes from Andrea Dworkin they've seen on some MR site. I wasn't going to give you a reading list. I simply wanted to see if you had actually read any feminists. Most MRAs talk a lot about feminism, but…
/r/MensRights28/09/11 07:21 AM
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I have been reading things critical of feminism for quite some time: Christina Hoff Sommers, Kathy Young, Warren Farrell, Ariel Levy, Katie Roiphe, various others. I have been reading MR blogs/forums quite carefully for more than a year. I've written literally hundreds of blog posts quoting extensively from MRAs and MGTOWers. I have not jumped to any conclusions, but the more I read the more I realize how wrongheaded the MRM is, and how hateful many MRAs are. I'm not saying you personally are ha…
/r/MensRights28/09/11 03:55 AM
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Well, if you would answer my questions we'd have something to work with.
/r/MensRights28/09/11 03:25 AM
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Really? Could you tell me some of the feminist beliefs you held that you later decided were wrong? Which feminist writers and publications did you read? Were there particular feminists you admired? Were you involved in any sort of feminist activism, or feminist groups? Obviously being an activist isn't required for someone to be a feminist, but I'm just curious.
/r/MensRights27/09/11 06:51 AM
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You really seem to actively want to miss the very basic point I'm making here. Warren Farrell got some book deals and appeared on TV. Christina Hoff Sommers got some book deals and appeared on TV. I imagine they each made a lot more money from their antifeminism than Kimmel makes from his feminism. I don't conclude from this that antifeminists in general (or even these two antifeminist writers in particular) adopt their beliefs in order to get aboard some sort of antifeminist gravy train. Is it …
/r/MensRights27/09/11 06:47 AM
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Yeah, I'm sure Michael Kimmel is happily soaking in his hot tub (on the back of his limo) drinking Cristal right now. Some MRAs ask their readers to donate money to them. Are they in it for the money, too?
/r/MensRights27/09/11 04:05 AM
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Because I don't hate women? Because I think both men and women should be treated with respect? Because feminist analysis helps me to make sense of the world? That sort of thing. I'm also like cats, and horror movies, and obscure music, and reading non-fiction. These are also aspects of my identity. Funny that no one ever accuses me of having an ulterior motive for any of these things, but my feminism must be inspired by a desire to get rich, or get laid, or whatever.
/r/MensRights27/09/11 04:01 AM
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Well, here's someone who made that argument explicitly: http://manboobz.com/2011/06/11/blogger-slutwalkers-deserve-to-be-raped/ Here's one making that argument about Lara Logan: http://manboobz.com/2011/02/19/a-new-low-in-victim-blaming-part-2-in-mala-fide-on-lara-logan/
/r/MensRights27/09/11 01:58 AM
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You don't have to be a feminist to get book deals or get on television. I'm pretty sure Glenn Beck, Sarah Palin, Bill O'Reilly, Ann Coulter all got a lot bigger advances for their books than Kimmel, an academic, did. I'm pretty sure that no one goes into feminism for the money. If so, I imagine they end up sorely disappointed on that front.
/r/MensRights27/09/11 01:49 AM
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I'm guessing most Hollywood liberals who are for animal rights don't actually wear mink. Your assumptions about feminists are similarly off.
/r/MensRights27/09/11 01:44 AM
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That doesn't describe any male feminists I know. By which I mean not only are they, you know, not rapists but they also don't assume that rapists are anything but a relatively small percentage of men. By contrast, a lot of the antifeminist critics of the slutwalks seem to assume that men are beasts who can't help wanting to rape any woman they see who's "dressed like a slut."
/r/MensRights27/09/11 12:16 AM
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By siding with what they see as the 'winning side', they distance themselves from the 'evil patriarchy' and may develop expectations to share in some of the spoils of victory. What sort of "spoils of victory" do you imagine they'll get?
/r/MensRights27/09/11 12:11 AM
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I'm pretty sure this isn't the real Abe Vigoda.
/r/MensRights26/09/11 07:14 AM
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Write "coffee?" on your forehead, and stand in front of her. Point at your forehead if necessary.
/r/seduction01/09/11 08:06 AM
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If someone says they study comparative religion say, "so is it true that you have six toes on your left foot?"
/r/seduction01/09/11 07:56 AM
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SYLVIA: You got very unusual taste. GEORGE: (proffering glasses) I hope prune juice is alright. It's the only thing I had that was chilled. SYLVIA: Fine. GEORGE: I'm sorry about that lock on the liquor cabinet. The combination musta just flown outta my head. It's a mental block. SYLVIA: (regarding photo) Ahh! Is this your son in the bubble bath? GEORGE: (bashful) No, that's me. SYLVIA: Oh. You don't see many guys your age who keep baby pictures of themselves around. (laughs) I like it. Consisten…
/r/seduction01/09/11 07:49 AM
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And a response to that article: http://manboobz.blogspot.com/2010/09/first-they-came-for-fleshlights.html
/r/MensRights22/09/10 12:55 AM
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Ah. Looking at the discussion of the study on Wikipedia, it looks like the study had some pretty serious methodological flaws, and that Rind and one of his coauthors had written for a pro-pedophile journal and "were keynote speakers at pedophile advocacy conference occurring in the Netherlands." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rind_et_al._controversy So, yeah, like I said, disturbing. EDIT: I've been banned from this subreddit so I will make a quick reply to guysmiley here, since I can still edit p…
/r/MensRights22/09/10 12:52 AM
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Uh, a very broad movement with many facets and without ideological uniformity on all issues. Like most broad political/ideological movements. "Socialism," for example includes Maoist terrorists and European social democrats. It includes Stalin and people killed by Stalin. Similarly, "Men's Rights" include loonies like Henry Makow and, you know, some people who are actually sane. Why is this such a difficult concept? The words and actions of one feminist do not represent the words and actions of …
/r/MensRights22/09/10 12:41 AM
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This part of the article is pretty disturbing: There is no scientific proof that non-violent consensual real pedophilia is harmful for its victims! I know I will lose most of my readers here, because everyone has been brainwashed that pedophilia is a crime and extremely damaging to children. Even though it was the norm in ancient Greece, and the bible is full of prophets and saints marrying 12 year olds. All research that seems to prove that non-violent pedophilia is not harmful, is actively rep…
/r/MensRights21/09/10 11:42 PM
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It's worth pointing out that some of the people who stood up to the "recovered memory" sex abuse hysteria were feminists. Like Debbie Nathan: Here's an article of hers on the subject from 1990: http://ncrj.org/resources/info/the-ritual-sex-abuse-hoax/ And her book on the subject: http://www.amazon.com/Satans-Silence-Ritual-Making-American/dp/0595189555/ref=sr_1_1/002-3837963-5137601?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1181881865&sr=1-1 Both are excellent reads. While a subset of feminists definitely supported t…
/r/MensRights21/09/10 11:29 PM
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I can't figure out if you're a troll, a manifestation of the r/mensrights collective unconscious, or an idiot for eloping with an insane woman. If the latter, I think "the highway" is the best choice for you.
/r/MensRights21/09/10 11:05 PM
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