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they pay their own. going dutch is the default in nordic countries and a social norm. i usually go for just a casual "a few beers in a cozy bar/pub" date if i meet someone from tinder. each one buys their own drinks.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 12:10 PM
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what fucking resources? i enjoy socialising and paying for more than your own expenses on dates is some archaic shit nobody does in finland.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 12:03 PM
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interesting considering it has always been other men who have shunned me and bullied me while i have got along better with women on average. the problem seems to be with straight men though, my two best friends are both gay men. i'm bisexual myself, but much more attracted to women than men. i can't imagine dating another man, i've just had casual sex with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 09:17 PM
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Women are not "more mentally stable than men" i never said that. i propose that due to the societal standards imposed by toxic masculinity a lot of men who should seek mental treatment do not, because they don't want to appear weak and feel a need to pretend to be stoic.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 08:09 PM
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and are treated for more mental health problems. yes because they seek help more. a lot of men bottle up their feelings or self-medicate with things like drugs or alcohol due to toxic masculinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 06:36 PM
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nah, men live on average more unhealthily thus more of them become overweight/obese in their 30's. also, hairloss is largely a male issue. there's also the fact that having a bit of extra weight can with fortunate genes go to the "right places" for a woman. there is no place where extra body fat is attractive on a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 05:13 PM
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how can you prove a negative?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 10:13 AM
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oh i see you're american yeah your society is fucked up in all respects of life, including dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 07:31 AM
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what specific study? NPD is more diagnosed in men than women just as is ASPD.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 07:29 AM
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yeah and i've had a lot of matches. sounds like just america being america tbh. it's very rare for a bio to have requirements at all here in finland, people just tell a bit about themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 07:27 AM
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so you found some extremely rare ridiculous woman? so what. nice personality (like genuinely nice) and looking decent will take you far as a man too. i think what most men who think they have those things lack is having something interesting about them that makes them stand out. i'm for example a writer and a poet which makes me attractive to a lot of artsy hipster chicks. so many redditors only have nerdy male dominated hobbies and interests.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 01:14 AM
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speak for yourself. the bar for men is on the ground and i want a lot of things from a woman to consider them LTR material.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 01:00 AM
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posting pics of yourself does not make you a narcissist. there are actual psychological statistics about this.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 11:20 PM
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nah, we just allow more assholish and arrogant behaviour from men. an assertive man is confident and a 'leader type', an assertive woman is a 'bitch'.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 11:16 PM
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narcissism is more common in men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 08:33 PM
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i just said if you take the rejection well
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 05:31 AM
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and what of it if you take the rejection well?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 05:23 AM
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yes, smashing the patriarchy and supporting feminism. the less toxic masculinity there is, the less men suffer.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 08:16 PM
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yeah, by other men. we are dangerous to everyone, including each other and ourselves, since men commit more suicides.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 08:05 PM
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some people's bad personalities are obvious, others' are not and only become apparent in the long run after knowing them for a while.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 07:41 PM
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never heard of such a thing. anyone can fall victim to being deceived.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 06:52 PM
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well yeah body language exists as does e.g. staring and ogling.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 06:38 PM
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contrast to the hundreds of yearly cases of murder due to extreme domestic abuse from husbands. which just proves how prevalent misogyny still is in society when even the men who seem good at first can turn out to be bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 06:30 PM
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abusive men can often be very charming at first. it's not like they all have red flags.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 06:29 PM
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you shouldn't have to fear other people. women have to be afraid of men, but men should change to make those fears unreasonable.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 06:27 PM
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considering how many women in the developed world have faced sexual violence or harassment not anywhere near safe enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 06:26 PM
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i got over my fear of being rejected after like the first couple times it happened. i have had a lot of sex partners and in order for that to happen i have also had to face rejection many times. if i get rejected now i'm just like "oh well, on to the next one"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 06:14 PM
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now I'm most afraid that she'll think I'm there to rape/murder her. this fear makes no sense if you have no such intentions and don't act creepy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 06:04 PM
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yep. men are scared of being ashamed, women are scared of being actually harmed.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 05:10 PM
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oh look another thread completely detached from reality. i have benefited more from my female frienships than they have of being my friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 10:31 AM
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why can't you guys be into stuff like e.g. literature and poetry like me? i meet tons of cute artsy hipster chicks in those circles. shit, an art gallery or a museum is a typical place for me to take a woman on a date.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 01:15 PM
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to counter point one: women are more extroverted than men on average as per defined by e.g. Big 5. women are more likely to leave behind the small towns they grew up in and move to big cities, which reflects a desire to be around a large and diverse set of people. also, Tinder for example is not anywhere near as big of a sausage fest here in nordic countries, especially in cities with universities. the gender ratio in those (i live in one in finland) is quite even actually. the US is not the who…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 08:25 AM
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no? not for vast majority. it just gives a dopamine boost to see your follower count go up and i say this is a man. i always also check how many of my followers have viewed my ig stories too and scroll through the list which accounts those story viewers are. social media is addictive, shocking! 🙀
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 01:58 PM
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depends completely on what sort of accounts you follow. i follow friends and acquaintances who with i am on pretty equal social standing and physical attractiveness generally speaking, some bigger international artists i am fond of, meme accounts and art accounts that post all sorts of pretty pictures (not just pics of beautiful people, actual real art)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 12:51 PM
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yeah there i can actually choose what sort of people i want to interact with so i don't have to stand some tech bros and these types.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 10:50 AM
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the average woman has heard of reddit, has given this site a try for maybe a few months, and then has stopped coming here after finding the userbase unbearable. this site is full of these types and tech bros.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 10:48 AM
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most women can't stand this site for very long. my best female friend posted together with me very actively during the summer but she was quickly burned out by the general atmosphere of reddit. tbh, so am i. instagram is my primary social media platform. i come here mostly to argue and roll my eyes at men i feel like i don't relate to at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 06:50 AM
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luckily i don't have to make that choice since i live in a city with a lot of university educated young people. threre's plenty enough women here who are both intelligent and hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 01:10 AM
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yep as an university educated man i have zero interest in a woman who i can't have serious discussions with about things such as society, philosophy and art. not for an LTR atleast.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 12:17 PM
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i'm not american, read my flair.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/21 02:25 AM
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not sure what that's supposed to mean but people's looks are not directly connected to their self-esteem or mental well-being. my own suicide attempt was when i was probably pretty close to the most attractive i've so far been in my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/21 01:21 AM
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yeah my ex was more bothered by (especially male) attention than flattered. when we went together to clubs or parties she preferred to be a bit of a wallflower while i would do the talking since i was the social butterfly in that relationship. she was totally fine with just being my "silent companion" who wouldn't really speak to strangers unless directly spoken to. in fact it helped her relax and enjoy the atmosphere of social events because she knew she could rely on me to do all the chit-chat…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/21 06:09 PM
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me ex was classically beautiful but also shy and timid. she only has like 100 followers while i have around 500. just because you're attractive doesn't mean you're going to act like a stereotypical "insta thot" in social media. her ig is private too, like mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/21 04:02 PM
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yes i'm a male feminist and feminism has helped me a lot to live my life like i want to and find people who i relate to and even find sexual partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 08:28 PM
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you only need to watch JP's debate with slavoj zizek to see that peterson is a total moron out of his element.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 08:09 PM
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They want to define the traditional masculine virtues - things like courage and independence and assertiveness - as a danger to society," Hawley said. total strawman, nobody calls these things toxic or part of toxic masculinity. in fact, they are not part of masculinity at all. women can be those things too. it's men like hawley who deride men like me. why am i not allowed to like things such as make up, fashion or pop music? why does that make me less of a man to him? why is it such an aberrati…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 10:33 PM
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i'm a man who likes getting pegged, spanked and dislikes PIV sex so yeah. i have also found many women who have gladly done these things to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 03:19 AM
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lmao i'm a skinny pretty boy, if i'm an alpha that term doesn't mean anything anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 01:20 AM
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if you seriously find it so hard to believe i'm not even going to bother to continue this convo.. it's a bit shorter than average and that's that.. i'm 178 cm and my height hasn't been a problem either. it's a bit taller than 5'7" but still under that magical 6 feet threshold.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 12:06 AM
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i don't need to imagine, i know closely one guy like that. his n count is in the triple digits. he also uses roids tho and is ripped af plus an attractive face. this fixation on height seems very american anyway. here in finland it seems most women just want their partner to be same height or atleast a little taller than themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 11:47 PM
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using the word "fault" is dumb. they don't have to like something they simply don't. there are probably a lot of women who don't like my skinny pretty boy look and want a burly masculine man instead. do i complain about it? ofc not.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 06:36 PM
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lmao i guess that's why i have had sex with approx ~75 women but my longest relationship lasted mere 4 months. i can get women bed to easily but they never like me more than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 06:34 PM
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who gives a shit? casual sex gets boring quick, speaking from experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 06:33 PM
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5'7 is not even short. i can easily imagine a dude of that height getting laid a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 06:33 PM
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and? life is all about settling. i don't dream to be some woman's ideal man, just good enough they'll put up with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 01:35 AM
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Since most men are on the same level economically huh? wealth inequality is increasing across the western world, probably globally.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 09:12 PM
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whats the point of being bitter though that a woman who likes you liked different type of men in the past?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 09:11 PM
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i'm saying having been part of the military is super niche.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 05:50 PM
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the difference is military service is an anomaly and relevant to a very small subset of men, especially outside the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 02:58 PM
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i've never seen women actually end up in happy long term relationships with "chads that treat them like shit" they might have casual flings with those but so what? as a 29 year old man i don't give a shit about casual sex anymore either. i have fucked plenty enough girls from tinder and clubs to know there's nothing glamorous or even particularly satisfying about that sort of "wild bachelor life". men that have never experienced it just imagine it to be better than it actually is and think it's …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 04:28 AM
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100 followers is not an IG model lol.. just a normal gal. i have over 500 and i'm just a dude, not a model. i have friends and acquaintances with way over 1000 followers and they aren't really famous or models or anything like that, just well connected extroverted people.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 07:18 AM
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yep. my ex is very classically beautiful. she has even done a little bit modeling, only because a photographer at the art school she went to asked her for a photo shoot. yet she is also very shy and timid. she has told me that it sometimes makes her sad that a lot of people seem to assume from her demeanour that she must be stuck-up and arrogant since "how could a hot woman be insecure?" she has only around 100 instagram followers when with her looks she could easily break 1000 if she tried to p…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 05:10 AM
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not really. it's not that rare for a woman to earn more than her male partner these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 01:45 PM
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maybe ill move there then, any recs for a city?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 11:06 AM
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who do you consider a very attractive woman? and yeah, most people are atleast somewhat attractive if they are at a healthy weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 10:49 AM
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ok? those women are hot too.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 10:36 AM
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i know some tall women list their height to warn men, but they are still ok with dating someone shorter than them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 10:33 AM
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read my flair. she is extremely attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 09:05 AM
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lol you haven't even realised tiktok has a filter. not every filter gives you fucking dog ears or something. some filters are very subtle and take a trained eye to spot. they will for example make your jaw sharper and cheekbones more pronounced.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 08:47 AM
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i dunno about you but i atleast watch actual real amateur porn between people that also have sex with each other without filming it. i have certain favorite accounts on pornhub i always check for new uploads. no idea how anyone can find studio produced porn between actors hot. it's so fake.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 08:45 AM
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hahahaha, are you mistaking us for the dutch? i'm 178 cm and my height has never been a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 08:32 AM
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lol, you guys really keep proving me right.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 08:24 AM
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lmao, sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 08:24 AM
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men are more likely to leave their wives if they fall ill than vice versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 08:23 AM
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i've literally never seen a woman's bio talking about what height they want their man to be. maybe it's different outside finland. i see some women listing their own height so there might be an implication they want you to be taller than them but nothing more than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 08:21 AM
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how is "divorce rape" an acceptable word here? rape is actually traumatic, divorce is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 07:11 AM
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yeah i know some male feminists that have turned out to be wolves in sheep's clothing. i'm not going to let those men make me scared to be a feminist too. we'll see. also this phenomenon you're talking about is very fringe here in finland. we are a very gender equal society and calling yourself a feminist as a man is nothing special among young university educated adults.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 02:59 AM
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i'm a male feminist and i think this comment is quite profound. thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 02:13 AM
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umm i certainly do.. why would i want a partner that won't party with me?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 02:10 AM
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Are you really going to go around telling Nobel Memorial Prize in Economics winners that by even thinking about the "Labour market" they are viewing the social structure in a skewed way? no, because they probably are smart enough to disagree with The dating pool can pretty canonically be seen as a market this.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 08:13 AM
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his recent video on the female gaze is one of his best imo. i made a thread about it in this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 06:44 AM
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watch his recent video on female gaze, it's one of his best imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 06:07 AM
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i think this just speaks of how low the bar is for men. i have found a lot of success from tinder and i'm nothing special.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 06:01 AM
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they should turn to feminism instead of just digging their hole deeper. feminism has certainly helped me.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 06:00 AM
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the whole idea of talking about a market already tells me you view this social structure in a skewed way.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 05:59 AM
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my female friends have showed me men's tinder profiles and most of them are absolutely terrible. those men seem to be completely oblivious how to sound charming or interesting in their bio, or how to take good pictures.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 05:58 AM
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thats because men are so thirsty and predatory on dating apps. i'd be extremely critical too if i were a woman on tinder and i'd vet all my dates really well beforehand.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 05:56 AM
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yeah lol i can say the same about finland. i feel like when it comes to urban young adults the woman is usually the more attractive partner in couples.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 05:52 AM
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selection bias. there are also a lot of women other men thirst after that i'd never give a second look.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 05:50 AM
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have you ever considered why it's impossible? maybe the problem is in men and that's why women don't like interacting with them through apps?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 05:49 AM
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brett maverick is a male youtuber who seems to be onto something in my opinion. he manages to give actually good advice without being a misogynistic redpiller.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 05:47 AM
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are you actually serious? i don't really like either one as a bisexual guy but the woman is more passable.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 05:45 AM
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thanks 😊
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 05:15 AM
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no worries, your question was fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 04:58 AM
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yeah it seems finnish tinder culture is very different from american. all the talk about height and paying for dates etc. sounds completely alien to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 04:55 AM
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im more attracted to women, quite extremely so. i'm very weakly bi. i have only ever dated women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 04:54 AM
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theres probably regional differences in this but i know a lot of people who found their long time partners from tinder.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 03:47 AM
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lmaoooo thanks for this 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 03:41 AM
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yep, brett maverick is the only male youtuber i have found who talks about this shit that actually seems to be onto something.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 03:39 AM
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i think they are both meh, the guy more so. not attractive and not unattractive so yea average is true i suppose.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 03:39 AM
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this is just two people wtf lmao. i dont find either one attractive for the matter but i do consider the woman better looking one. i'm a bi guy tho so what do i know.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 03:38 AM
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you should watch brett maverick's video on the red pill, you can find it from youtube. i won't bother to someone with username "betabucks666"
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 08:16 AM
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whats your problem, i like to use all the formatting options in reddit. i'm a writer so i care about that sorta stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 08:05 AM
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Same reason why people are blaming men for everything, easier to do. are they? when i blame patriarchy i'm not blaming individual men but the social superstructure. r/Menslib, a feminist space, recently had male victims of rape and domestic violence say they don't feel safe talking about thier experiences and have moved on from the subreddit after they invited someone that said male victims are actually the abusers. yes and this was criticised a lot afterwards. /r/MensLib is not perfect but it's…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 07:19 AM
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yeah so why are people blaming women instead of society? why are you not leftists and feminists? i certainly have benefited from feminism as a man, as well as from leftist policies.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 06:13 AM
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yeah this shit is hilarious. imagine comparing an actual serious societal problem to not getting your dick wet. talk about male entitlement.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 05:10 AM
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of course it's your own fault if you can't get sex. nobody has a responsibility to cater to another person's sexual needs so how could it be somebody else's fault?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 05:07 AM
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yeah and racism is still a much more serious issue today already because you know, it's actually real, unlike TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 05:05 AM
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yeah i don't understand it. it also lowers your hidden elo in tinder if you swipe right too much. i like beautiful artsy hipster chicks, glasses are a bonus. i mostly only swipe right on those. i'm a skinny pretty boy who writes prose & poetry and i have glasses. those type of women also often like my type so it all works out.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/21 07:29 PM
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yeah that's what i thought. women have very varied tastes in men. a lot of women probably think i'm a wimp and not even a real man as a skinny pretty boy, but there are also a lot of women who love men like me. i don't see any use in trying to appeal to everyone, it's pointless.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/21 07:13 PM
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selection bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/21 06:21 PM
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I remember from the posts I saw, that's where many got data showing generally women have a less then 5% swipe rate on men. There was other findings, and they too painted a bleak picture. is there any proof though that all women swipe on the same 5% of men? for the record i also swipe right on maybe 5% of women if even that. i have a very specific type.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/21 06:20 PM
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tbh i do also vet women a little bit based on if we would look like a cute couple. i think this is partly because with my ex we were almost like a brother and a sister on surface level. same taste in music, same fashion style, same height, almost same weight, similar facial features.. we were sorta like jaime and cersei lannister lmao (joking) that relationship didn't work out though, hence the ex, but yeah i definitely loved that aspect during the time we were together. it was so obvious we wer…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/21 02:25 PM
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yea sure
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 06:27 PM
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bragging in real life about how many women you've fucked is incredibly boorish and cringe, i don't want to go for that. i also don't consider my number of sex partners some sort of an accomplishment.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 06:25 PM
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it really doesn't. on this site yes for the most part, but not in real life when they come from people whose opinions i actually somewhat give a shit about.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 06:20 PM
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I live in a small town in India there's your problem. the difference in what people are like is huuuuge between small towns and big cities. the cultural sphere and social norms are totally different, despite the free flow of information of the internet. i lived in a medium sized town when i was a teen and i felt like an outsider there, like nobody else was like me. after i moved to a big city (for finland anyway) to study in a university i have found tons of friends and people who i vibe with, a…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 04:45 PM
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feminine men are popular in the west too in big cities where especially young people lean left and liberal. i live in finland and i've got laid going out wearing a skirt, multiple times in fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 04:40 PM
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lmao a 40 year old woman visited me this summer and fucked my brains out while i was in my femboy look. i'm 28. she was hot af too, i could've easily believed she is same age as me or like 2-3 years older. there are a lot of women who like the idea of a cute younger than them "boy toy"
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 04:37 PM
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yeah and he still got called "metrosexual" as if taking care of your appearance has something to do with your sexuality. i'm not gay either eventhough i sometimes go as far as wearing skirts and thigh socks.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 04:05 PM
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maybe, i mesh with women well as friends too. my two best friends are both gay men though. the one i'd say is closer to me also crossdresses sometimes. i don't really get along with typical straight men as friends. most of my close friends are either women or gay men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 03:09 PM
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her flair said she is 35F so unless you've changed it nah. nice to hear you like me too tho lol 🥰
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 02:40 PM
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also film industry. young leonardo di caprio, river phoenix (RIP), young keanu reeves..
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 02:29 PM
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yeah, david beckham was the poster boy for "metrosexual" back then. it's just bitterness and fragile masculinity. men always feel the need to tear down other men who have enjoyed considerable sexual success. i've been insulted so much on this site as a femboy who has had a lot of female sex partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 02:28 PM
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not sure what your point is, i'm just saying there has always been a subset of women who like pretty boys and it's a fine "strategy" to be one of those. there are also zoomers who like big burly men with a lot of body hair and beards.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 01:56 PM
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there have always been pretty boys who have been regarded as sex symbols of their era. consider the whole emo craze and MCR's gerard way. the cultural sphere is big enough to have both masculine and feminine male sex symbols at the same time.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 01:49 PM
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well yeah obviously younger generations are more socially progressive. there have always been women who like pretty boys though. it's not new. consider how women used to love glam rockers wearing makeup and women's jeans already decades ago. consider how women lost their shit over leonardo di caprio in titanic. do you know bishonen? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bish%C5%8Dnen
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 01:45 PM
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i know i am. i don't think it's that hard to find women who like femboys though if you live in a city and hang out in socially progressive circles.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 01:37 PM
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i don't want to. there is more to life than getting a "high value woman". i hated myself when i tried to be traditionally masculine. it's not who i am. i'd rather have someone like me for who i am. i have had plenty enough casual sex in my life to not care about appealing to most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 01:34 PM
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my ex was a millenial. i'm 28. i have posted pics of myself in this sub too, there was a 35 year old woman here who called me hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 01:28 PM
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i'm 28. i just recently made an AMA about being a femboy in the finnish subreddit /r/Suomi. my test levels are within normal range. my AMA had a lot of people calling me beautiful and cute, also stylish.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 01:25 PM
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i'm skinny but soft. my wrists are thin as fuck and i'm proud of them, my hands are very pretty and dainty. i barely have any muscle. not sure if 178 cm is short. i wish my shoulders were narrower. my voice pitch is pretty average. a lot of the women who have liked me have been bi/pan but i have no problem with that. i'm bi myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 01:23 PM
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i have had women travel from another city to mine to spend a weekend with me at my place after just conversing a bit in tinder. i think that counts for something.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 01:00 PM
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see my replies to /u/razorfloss in the same chain.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 12:59 PM
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i know very feminine men, other than just myself, who have had great success with women. none of us are famous.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 12:41 PM
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They simply don't know enough women, atleat not closely. I'm a very feminine man who sometimes wears makeup and even skirts and I've found plenty of women who like men like me.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 12:39 PM
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i just don't see what's wrong with it. i'm 28 now and in 2016-2020 (till spring of '20) i partied shitloads and had a lot of casual sex. covid ofc made me calm down a lot so maybe i will start living that life again when restrictions are lifted. i doubt it though. it's not the women's fault some men have sour grapes about missing out on something. if it bothers the man then he and she are simply not compatible. it's just a stupid thing to be bothered about in my opinion. i also value different t…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 09:09 AM
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It makes the man feel like they are being treated unfairly. To use a shopping example if one person has to pay 100 dollars for a bag and another has to pay 1000 for that same exact bag that would understandably piss the person paying more off as it's the same thing. this only works if these two things happen at the exact same time. if the bag is later at a discount and someone gets it for cheaper it would be stupid to be pissed about that. Why does Tyrone a known player have to do barely anythin…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 08:37 AM
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why tho? not all relationships need to obey same rules.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 05:56 AM
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the things you listed are clearly relevant and present in the current moment. how is the number of sex partners in the past relevant for a current relationship? i would find it stupid too if some woman judged me for not having always been the same height as now lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 06:40 PM
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it's not misogynistic of me to like certain features in women. i don't see why number of sex partners would qualify as one though. how is her past relevant when i'm dating her? it would also be dumb for a woman to look down on a guy because they used to be poor but now are wealthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 06:36 PM
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lmao we are not talking about literally looking down on people here.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 05:34 PM
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"less fun" yeah maybe if your idea of fun is playing video games or watching superhero movies and other shit like that. i like that people show emotion, a lot of men are so boring and feel like robots.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 05:33 PM
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like video games and capeshit lmao? the interests of an average male redditor are low brow as fuck. funny how it's mostly women who i can actually discuss proper literature and poetry with, or art in general. the type of men who are interested in attending an art gallery with me are pretty fucking rare. i have a few close male friends who are like that but then again they are gay and they are also artists.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 05:28 PM
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interesting considering the majority of my close friends are women and and it's not because i'm orbiting them in the hopes of getting laid. what am i missing?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 05:25 PM
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if they really were gay they probably wouldn't be so unbearable though.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 05:22 PM
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that's just misogyny with extra steps.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 05:21 PM
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lol i've been a total asshole to women too. calling yourself a feminist while being a man is nothing weird in finland anyway if you are a young adult with a uni degree.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 03:49 PM
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lol probably like 95% cases of where the word manlet is used it's men putting down other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 08:35 AM
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only if you simplify. there are introverts that can be life of the party but when they arrive home they feel completely drained. there are also extroverts who prefer to just sit in the corner of a party and observe the others feeling their spirits getting high simply from being in same space with a lot of other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 08:45 AM
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well my psychotherapist has agreed that i exhibit a lot of traits of histrionic personality disorder. i know that an acquaintance of mine who studies psychology has said behind my back that i'm basically a textbook example of a man with HPD.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 07:08 PM
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the disparity only exists if you value casual sex, i don't. i have had sex with around 70 women and the sense of validation and ego boost had already mostly vanished by the time i first hit double digits. if you want a steady partner that actually loves you and is good to you it's equally hard for men and women. this sub has a lot of men that think casual sex is great because they haven't experienced it. after underdoing psychotherapy my own desire for casual sex has reduced significantly, i now…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 06:55 PM
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okay, your post just made it sound like neuroticism and introversion are correlated when extroverted people can also be highly neurotic. my female partner of this summer described herself as a shy extrovert who prefers to be a bit of a wallflower. she likes going to social events but she doesn't want attention or forced social interaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 06:49 PM
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you must be good-looking in general, no surprises there. i can make being a skinny guy who wears makeup and skirts work because i'm good-looking. it's exactly the same for women, nobody cares about a woman's personality if her looks aren't enough. i don't understand why it's such a problem for many to face that you have to pass a certain threshold as far as looks go.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 06:44 PM
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i'm a highly neurotic extroverted man. i score high on all cluster B traits, i probably have HPD but a lot of BPD too. i have had a lot of casual sex with different partners. neuroticism is not a problem in itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 06:43 PM
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who hasn't taken psychedelics in this day and age? they didn't really change my personality for the record, they just helped me come out of my shell.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 06:40 PM
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i am a highly neurotic extroverted man with a lot of cluster B personality traits. i have had a lot of casual sex. i struggle with maintaining relationships. it's easy for me to pick up women from tinder or clubs/parties, having a long lasting relationship has seemed near impossible. we exist too.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 06:37 PM
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current psychology does not really believe in introvert–extrovert dichotomy anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 06:34 PM
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iq is not an objective measure of intelligence anyway. it's perfectly possible introverts score better in the sort of cognitive capabilities that a typical iq test measures.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 06:34 PM
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The key fact here is that introverts tend to be more intelligent than extroverts and American women greatly prefer criminals and dipshits. lmao i hope this is sarcasm.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 06:33 PM
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don't see anything rare about that. oppositely, introverted men don't necessarily lack confidence. they just find social interactions tiring. i know some asocial introverted men and they have no problems with women because they are content with who they are. my own father is an introvert and based on the things he has said about his youth he was one hell of a pussy slayer. a lot of women like the strong and silent type.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 06:32 PM
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MBTI is shit, Big Five is much better. Also, current psychology does not really believe in introvert–extrovert dichotomy. It's too simplified. An introvert man can still have good social skills and self-confidence to approach women. He just finds social interaction tiring.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 03:40 PM
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not sure what those are but i doubt we have them here.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 07:28 AM
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femboy is the preferred nomenclature.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 07:27 AM
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damn american men are even worse than i thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 07:06 AM
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i don't really care, i feel for sad people who are unfortunate enough to be born there. my condolences to you, i hope you get out of there one day. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-56457295
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 07:03 AM
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then your culture is actually worse off than a lot of other countries our conscription for men and laws regarding trans people are the two biggest offenders yeah. the latter is hopefully going to change soon though. it's really easy to get an exemption from military service btw, i just basically lied to the doctor that i have social anxiety. it wasn't even anywhere near true lol, i'm very extroverted and love being around people. most western countries have sub-replacement birthrates, but Finlan…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 06:51 AM
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maybe if it wasn't a good thing to be feminine 💅🏻
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 03:21 AM
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i am feminine and proud of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 03:15 AM
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never seen one, there is no frat culture in finland anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 03:15 AM
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men could try having better friendships with each other instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 09:31 PM
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yea not a lot of homeless people in finland. even those who are technically homeless generally sleep at some friend's or family member's place. there are very few "actually homeless" people in finland that spend their nights without proper shelter.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 08:42 PM
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it's just another example of redditors imagining what life must be like outside their basement. i don't think i've even seen a physical fight between two people and i used to go out a lot before covid.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 08:40 PM
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this sub has a lot of men filled to the brim with toxic masculinity. i doubt they have been in fights either, they are just shut-ins and imagine it to be part of lives of men that actually go outside.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 08:34 PM
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there's security guards/bouncers or w/e you call 'em
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 08:32 PM
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i'm also not stupid, i have gone hard on my insults when it's been a place like a club where there are security guards to bail me out if someone escalates to physical violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 06:33 PM
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there is a lot of good comedy actually, it's just not made by typical middle aged or older straight men. stewart lee is an exception.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 05:55 PM
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i have posted a lot of censored pics of myself in this sub. you can find some from this fairly recent submission i posted here: https://redd.it/pmudlr e.g. this: https://imgur.com/a/tJYaEUV and this: https://imgur.com/a/voGfarD
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 05:51 PM
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i don't care i loathe majority of stand-up comedy. stewart lee is a good one tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 05:28 PM
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did you know feminists can also be highly verbally aggressive and confrontational? i have also told women of my own progressive leftist bubble to go fuck themselves. i'm not a pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 05:28 PM
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how many people featured there are university educated guys who have their life together? i doubt very many.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 04:50 PM
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oh i have no doubt comedian culture is full of toxic masculinity and petty behaviour where both sides try their hardest to get under the other one's skin. that kind of shit can definitely escalate to physical violence when both sides feel like they have some sort of pride to protect.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 04:48 PM
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i've literally never been in a fight eventhough i have a sharp tongue and have often insulted people to their face. physical violence only really happens between some drug addicts and alcoholics that already live at the edges of society, atleast here in finland. domestic violence is of course a bit different but ending up in a fight with some random dude? lmao fat chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 04:47 PM
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lmaooo maybe in some south american machismo honour culture. i have insulted other men to their face really fucking severely and i have never been in a fight. macdonald was a canadian middle class dude, not some brazilian thug living in a favela.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 04:42 PM
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that just makes it more believable he was a maladjusted individual. normal men don't end up in physical altercations outside extreme niche cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 04:07 PM
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well if we are more like women here then we probably also use internet more like women? it works the other way too you know, our women are also more "mannish" in their behaviour and interests so they also watch porn and argue on the internet. it wasn't that long ago that i read an article that the gender gap in new students in STEM is getting narrower. new students who major in maths was already like 50/50 split between men and women in some finnish uni. theres also increasingly more men in the …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 09:02 AM
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do you really? american conservatives always say we are all totally emasculated soy boys here in nordic countries 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 08:28 AM
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And you want a cookie for being the exception as a guy? i don't really think i am. here in finland and other northern european countries men and women behave very similarly when it comes to how we use internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 08:03 AM
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that's why they succeed more.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 08:02 AM
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yeah i know the US for example is a completely rotten society. finland is ranked as one of the most gender equal societies in the world and patriarchy is still alive and well here too. we are just less bad than other countries, not good.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 06:18 AM
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are they? not here in finland atleast. i was taught to be a nice caring person regardless of gender. if you did shit like opened doors for women or paid their expenses on dates many women would dislike it and find it patronizing.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 06:09 AM
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bodily fluids have no relevance for anal play if you practice proper hygiene and diet. i have very rarely encountered shit during anal play giving or receiving and even then it has usually just been a tiny speck on a toy (or my own condom covered dick) when pulling it out
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 05:15 AM
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well being able to form deep good friendships is a sign that being like us is something that works, right? sure, it's not irrefutable proof, but it's a pretty strong sign isn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 09:54 PM
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not really since the male friends i do have are really good friendships, friendships that are completely foreign to most men. we hug each other, kiss on the cheek as a sign of platonic affection, stroke each other's hair, cry without any sense of shame, talk about even our deepest secrets..
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 09:48 PM
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Of COURSE women want to be in relationships with men they want to fuck. Why is it so hard for women to actually say that? Why do women gloss over this and speak euphemistically about this? Why can't you fucking just come out and fucking SAY IT? because so many men can't handle being rejected for being unattractive. women are scared of rejecting men with honesty, for a good reason. men are violent.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 09:30 PM
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why does it matter lmao. why do you need to be told blatantly obvious things directly to your face? if you are fat do you also ask people to call you fat? that's just awkward
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 09:29 PM
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yeah i had a woman come directly to my place in early summer. we talked about fashion and poetry at first (she is a designer). once we had established i'm not a typical man the discussion progressed to sex and she told me she would come to my place and take some anal toys with her. she ended up giving my first proper prostate orgasm without any penile stimulation. she even came by train from another city lmao, she lives in helsinki while i in turku.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 09:26 PM
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it implies that the average man sucks and should be ignored hate to break it to you but they do. there's a reason why almost all my close friends are either women or gay men. if i can't stand the average man as a friend, how are women supposed to stand them as a partner?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 09:24 PM
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omg you did not just use the d-word on me!! i'm contacting the site admins directly 😡
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 08:24 PM
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oh i'm definitely a nice person only to people i like :D right now as i type this i'm banned from the default finnish sub /r/Suomi, been banned there multiple times lmao. sometimes it's nice let out some steam by telling stupid nerdy dweebs that they are stupid nerdy dweebs.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 07:51 PM
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but i'm a man and i don't see OLD as an equivalent at all for me. instagram is the same experience for me as for women. i follow a lot of extremely attractive men and yeah seeing pics of them does sometimes get to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 05:04 PM
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let me quote him for you: The male equivalent the self esteem issues i get from instagram are just the same as for women. tinder is a different world. eventhough i'm attractive i don't really get that much matches. well i do probably compared to a lot of guys but still it's not that much to me. i don't expect to get a lot of matches in tinder and it doesn't affect my self-esteem if i swipe right on lets say 10 women and none are a match. it is what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 05:00 PM
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yes i did read it and no it's not the same thing. when i post my own selfies or pics taken by others of me in instagram i get a lot of likes and often also comments that say i look good etc. if i don't get as many likes as usually though it does get to my self esteem tinder is a completely different thing
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 04:54 PM
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go on explain yourself then. i'm not a woman and i think the comparison is stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 04:45 PM
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yes, i was an aloof fuckboy in the past because i wanted to conceal how much i care and how much i need to be loved. it was insecurity that lead me to pursue so much casual sex. i usually didn't even orgasm, i did it for the sense of validation.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 01:34 PM
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good post, this is what i want to be myself. i've been needy in the past and still occasionally am. i'm working on it. i go to psychotherapy two times a week, i just were this morning actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 01:24 PM
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yep, i'm a nice person i think but i'm also very self-assured and my way or the highway type of guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 01:22 PM
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also data on how instagram hurts young men too. stuff like eating disorders and steroid use are both in rise in men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 12:26 PM
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instagram also harms men, why do you compare it to OLD?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 11:58 AM
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i don't think so, i took it as meaning porn that is unethical. there is also ethical porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 11:56 AM
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so do you agree that there is a problem for young men on old? no not really. the problem is of their own creation by being so terrible at being appealing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 11:54 AM
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maybe you want to be comfy and also look good? i sure do like to look good, i never go out in clothing i don't feel attractive in.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 11:52 AM
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How do you explain that all the things women do "for themselves" just happen to incidentally also be things that target male attraction behavioral patterns? as if this doesn't apply to men too lol? i guess on some level the reason why i like to read and write poetry is because it makes me more appealing to beautiful hipster chicks.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 11:51 AM
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you're literally comparing stereoids to the very only thing that a man can do in order to improve it's sex appeal, muscles. i lost weight to 18.5 bmi to improve my sex appeal, worked out great to pull of the pretty male artist thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 11:49 AM
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grown men who weren't taught the truth about women while they were teens. you have to be a complete moron to not realise in your teens that women also like sex and attractive people.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 11:41 AM
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I think you are probs more vulnerable to existential dread the closer to your 30's you get. the fuck lol, i'm 28 and i feel like only in like last year or so i have started to feel somewhat content with life and that everything is going to be okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 11:40 AM
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men use more violent methods like guns.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 11:38 AM
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i shame gamers lmao although i used to be one. can't stand the community anymore though.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 11:37 AM
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why is this a men vs women thing again? i'm kinda addicted to social media i will admit, especially instagram. i don't really watch porn that much.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 11:37 AM
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does it really matter that much to you lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 09:06 AM
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who cares? there's nothing bad about liking to show off your body. it doesn't mean you get to creep on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 07:42 AM
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it's not equivalent at all. the equivalent is men who browse instagram and follow accounts of attractive men, same fucking thing duh.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 07:41 AM
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My point is their self-consciousness and insecurity is a result of their own lack of mental resilience. are you sure we are not talking about male redditors here?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 07:40 AM
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i am more valued by women in tinder than real life i'd estimate lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 07:39 AM
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the information men get from OLD is good inf not really because so many men are terrible at making a good tinder profile. they come across more attractive in real life. simply taking good pictures is like a totally foreign concept to many of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 07:38 AM
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Is there that much difference between a 13/15 yo girl and a 21 year old man these days? of course there is, wtf.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 07:37 AM
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you realise men can also follow attractive men on instagram? the equivalent of women looking at pics of attractive women online is men looking at pics of attractive men online lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 07:36 AM
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well yeah the video features kpop bands :D
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 07:26 AM
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uhhh i score very high in all dark triad traits and i'm still a pretty boy. i think it's actually part of my attractiveness. women can sense that there is a brooding darkness under my pretty exterior.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/21 06:27 AM
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this is a good post. It's better that some people rate you 8 and others rate you 2 than get 5s across the board. yes, if you want to express it with numbers this is a good way to simplify the message. Bland isn't anyone's favourite flavour. 👏🏻
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/21 04:17 AM
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well yeah but he has also more general advice like exercise and diet
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/21 04:15 AM
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what do you mean by that? he does recognise appearance plays an important role but he accepts it and focuses on making the best out of what he has
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/21 03:56 AM
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he actually did mention driver's voice at 5:33!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/21 05:39 AM
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yeah i won't lie i am. it's just nice to post a few pics of myself in reddit when for a change the responses are not negative. it's so tiring sometimes how much i get insulted on this site and accused of being all sorts of heinous things.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/21 12:02 AM
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i'm not losing my shit, it's just really juvenile and makes people not take you seriously. i have been called a f*ggot so many times when i was still an insecure teen that the word doesn't phase me at all these days as a self-confident adult. it's your choice if you want people to dismiss you as a troll.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 11:59 PM
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flair is a stupid meme of fucking trump of all people saying a homophobic slur do you actually intend people to bother to read your posts and reply to them?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 11:52 PM
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you don't understand demisexuality if you think they are blind if someone is physically attractive without knowing them. it's not so literal.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 11:50 PM
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you said it's only worthwile to appeal to a wide variety of women. we have established that is not true. i only want to appeal to beautiful artsy hipster chicks. i don't want anything to do with some basic women regardless of how hot they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 11:23 PM
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and? you can also want to have a lot of partners of very specific type of woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 11:18 PM
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It’s because masculine men are having the only worthwhile relationships with women. according to who? to me it seems masculine men tend to have relationships that start off strong but then crash and burn. it's the more feminine men that are able to maintain strong lasting LTR's where both parties still love each other when they have been several years together.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 11:07 PM
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The female face dude if her gets mocked by other men will be forgotten in a second. i'm way better at verbal sparring than most men and i'm very confrontational and confident. physical violence is completely irrelevant aspect in western world, i have never been in a fight or even really been close to ending up in one. same thing applies to most men in finland.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 11:00 PM
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yes i really like his attitude. he accepts lookism as a reality but instead of swallowing a black pill and wallowing in self-pity he tries his best to looksmaxx and gives other men great advice how to do the same. of course he has good genetics too but i bet a lot of men who think they were doomed from the start could improve their looks considerably if they put all his advice into use and sticked to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 10:52 PM
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you can want to be more masculine without wanting to transition. i considered /r/TransDIY to get a rounder and plumpier more feminine butt eventhough i identify as cis. i realised though that taking hormones for that is not worth it, luckily /r/sissyfitness exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 09:50 PM
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it's funny how people only have a problem with personal anecdotes here if they go against TRP bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 09:48 PM
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yes my bmi is just at the low end of normal range, i'm 178 cm 60 kg so 18.5 bmi i also know about the problems of bmi for usage on individuals instead of groups.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 09:28 PM
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i wrote a guide for men to tinder there and jesus christ the comments and reaction in general were pathetic, i translated it in english later if you are interested, you can find it from my profile.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 09:21 PM
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wow you guys are making me blush 😳 it's funny how differently the finnish subreddit /r/Suomi has always reacted to me talking about myself. they just call me a narcissist and a liar.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 09:12 PM
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haha i remember one time i was in a similar outfit in a bar and this unknown older woman said to me that she wished she had had legs like mine in her youth. that was very sweet of her and a nice compliment.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 09:11 PM
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Awesome legs thank you, i have received a lot of compliments on them and also my calves. long distance running is one of my hobbies, i have also run a few half marathons in decent time. another pic: https://imgur.com/a/tJYaEUV
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 09:09 PM
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thank you 🥰
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 09:07 PM
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i'd rather have good sex with people i vibe with with than casual sex with any woman whose appearance appeals to me. casual sex is not that good anyway, sex in an established relationships is way better. that's why i have a few regular fwb's because we know each other and what we like.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 09:02 PM
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you realise right that even high n count gay men can still like only very specific type of men?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 09:01 PM
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I am 6'4. Have redish, brunette hair. Am 75 lbs (quite skinny). you mean 75 kg right?????
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 09:00 PM
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he also has a good video on how to choose a haircut that compliments your face and head shape.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 08:44 PM
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obviously it does and i don't deny it! i have changed my looks to appeal more to that niche. i lost weight to the point that i'm borderline underweight. i shave all of my body hair every 5 days or so, this includes even fingers and toes. i literally have zero hair below neck after i'm done shaving. i do sometimes grow a stubble when i want to rock more of a "bad boy who plays in some hipster band" look while wearing clothing like leather jackets. i often wear makeup and nail polish. i use jewell…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 08:00 PM
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my latest partner who i had this summer, who loved me in makeup and thigh socks, is 24. in spring i fucked a 40 year old woman who gave me my first orgasm without any penile stimulation at all using a prostate toy. shit was so cash.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 07:27 PM
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it's just one example provided of a currently trending niche that challenges stereotypical notions of how to get laid. there are other niches too. i know some really nerdy men that are in happy relationships with nerdy girls. some of these girls are cute af and i'd definitely have sex with them. these men have healthy attitudes towards women though despite being total nerds.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 06:59 PM
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most of the video is him talking to the camera so yeah they probably have if they watched the video..
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 06:58 PM
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yes there are definitely some shitty parts about finnish culture that are remnants from that time. it's still pretty good here though. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-56457295
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 06:02 PM
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i don't really care in that case. not sure how it's masturbation by proxy though since she loved to give me blowjobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 05:50 PM
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what mental illness do i have? i have studied psychology and can't say i could self-diagnose myself with one even if i wanted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 05:36 PM
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oh look it's some alt-right dweeb with the clown world meme. why even come to this sub if you don't want to debate?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 05:32 PM
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yeah, i'm bi. i don't do it to be more attractive though but because i like it. multiple women have pegged me or in other ways played with my ass. my ex would often lick my ass while giving me a handjob or vice versa finger me while giving me a blowjob. you know a lot of women like doing stuff like that?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 05:29 PM
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great argument. even when you get this type of advice from a stereotypical chad you dismiss it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 05:26 PM
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Then she was asexual. why did she want sex more than me though lol? i resorted to using sex toys on her sometimes when she wanted to fuck and i didn't. stop trying diagnose me or my partners. i bet you are from some country that used to be part of the soviet union. it would explain your stupid ass views.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 05:23 PM
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that's a good type of being anal!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 05:07 PM
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great summary! i'm a feminist femboy who writes both prose and poetry. i'm actually writing my debut novel atm, becoming a professional writer is my dream. i dress well and i'm really into art and culture. i have often taken my dates to art galleries and museums with me. all of this makes me quite special and makes the right type of women absolutely swoon and wet their panties over me.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 04:51 PM
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If you aren't one,this is going to only make you more attractive to asexual lesbians. lmao i have dated multiple conventionally attractive women. i have had a lot of female sex partners that are bi/pan but my dearest ex was totally straight and she was classically beautiful. it does seem though that bi/pan women on average have healthier attitudes about what men should be like. men should have self respect. indeed, that's why i don't try to be something i'm not and i'm not scared to wear what i …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 04:49 PM
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dude you have some masochistic tendency no i don't? she liked me so much because i was so exceptional as a man and "one of the good ones" why you dislike masculinity ?? only toxic masculinity, not all. it's like you love been degraded by those kind of women those type of women don't degrade me, they praise me and tell other men they should be more like me. have you been raised by single mother no, my parents are still together. my mother has called herself a feminist since the early 80's. my par…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 04:44 PM
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exactly, some like a mixture of features. being a jack of all trades is also a niche!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 04:37 PM
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i actually agree with your post for the most part. if you look at his channel he has some very redpilly videos on how to be more attractive to women. he manages to give that advice without being misogynistic or an asshole. check this one out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8w0ui2ss7k
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 04:30 PM
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see /u/januaryphilosopher's reply to same comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 04:30 PM
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are you serious that a man in a skirt is that big of a deal to you? where are you from? during the latest eurovision song contest the whole female twitter was fawning over the singer of the winning artist måneskin. his name is damiano david. his girlfriend is hot as fuck too goddddd damnnnnn.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 04:25 PM
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thats the masculine side of you then i wouldn't call it masculine, simply having a healthy self-esteem and recognising your own worth. do you get a lot of girls with daddy issues who are subconsciously taking it out on their father by finding men they can control? some, but women i have actually had relationships with have not been like that. my latest partner was a very confident radical feminist. she was very fierce like i am, she often got into arguments even with other women who were not as …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 04:23 PM
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i'm not easy to control. it doesn't take much for me to decide to tell a woman that i'm not interested in them anymore and walk away. i have a very "my way or the highway" attitude despite being a femboy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 04:15 PM
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does it matter though if you only have niche appeal? move to a city and you'll find plenty of women of your niche. i'm very picky too even when i only want casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 04:06 PM
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that's true. i have browsed /r/sissyfitness/ and considered i should start some sort of exercise routine from there.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 03:54 PM
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they are looking for exceptional men. i actually agree with this. that's exactly the gist though, women don't all want you to be exceptional in the same way.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 03:52 PM
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lmao, not as arid as i thought!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 03:51 PM
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yeah i'm not sure my friend was actually joking that much at all lol. i also had a cis woman fwb who started dating a trans woman after our fling. she joked that i should also start taking hormones. can't say it didn't make me browse /r/TransDIY for a while because i really wished our fwb arrangement had progressed to a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 03:49 PM
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most men in this sub seem to think you are lying about your preferences to virtue signal or something 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 03:47 PM
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Man does he really misrepresent the issues can you elaborate how? serves more as a hit peice on Kevin Samuels. tbh based on that video alone he deserves it, what a delusional piece of shit. Also, the advice he gives at the end of the video is straight up absolutely wrong about being emotionally vulnerable toward women. is it though? when i cried the first time in front of my latest female partner (we recently decided amicably to be friends instead) she ran to me and hugged me while stroking my h…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 03:45 PM
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I'm bi and like my girls girly, my men manly, and not much inbetween. a lot of bi people are like this, one of the reasons some call themselves pan is to distinguish they are not like that. i'm bisexual aswell but i like trans women too if they are very passing and also tomboys. a beautiful woman who has a penis is hot as fuck, i have actually known some bi/pan cis women with the same view. my good female friend who i have also had sex with in the past joked that a trans woman would be her perfe…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 03:38 PM
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yes and typically niche appeal is more intense than a general "a little something for everyone" appeal.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 03:34 PM
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i think the point is to recognise your own niche and try to best appeal to it. don't change who you are but you can change how you are who you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 03:33 PM
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Define "more success with women" more tinder matches. more tinder dates that ended with fucking at either one's place. more succesful nights of going out to parties and clubs with the goal of picking up women. they generally feel zero sexual attraction towards them. depends on culture and social circles. i'm finnish and i hang out in very liberal and leftist circles. i know a lot of feminine men that have absolutely zero trouble with women and many of them have a conventionally attractive female…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 03:32 PM
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okay i was just curious if an actual femboy look like that is too feminine. for the record i have got laid going out dressed like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 03:29 PM
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yes he is hot as fuck. his channel has a lot of other good videos too. his anti-red pill video is magnificent.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 03:28 PM
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wise words, but i think it's also smart that maverick encourages you to be the best possible version of yourself. for me it meant taking my natural femininity up a notch, just like it can mean the opposite for masculine men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 03:23 PM
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understandable, my own 178 cm height has been plenty enough for many and it's not a problem to me if that's too short for you. just curious, would you otherwise like someone like me? here's an old selfie i cropped face out of. https://imgur.com/a/voGfarD
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 03:22 PM
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how is the problem in me when it's me who has good close friends and they don't? or what did you mean by sarcastic "it's them and not you"?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 02:53 PM
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I'm sure it's them and not you. considering i have a lot of close friends who i can share everything with including being vulnerable, while most men have very few or none, yeah. i have cried many times in front of my best friend, he is gay. we both have sometimes stroked each others' hair, hugged, embraced while laying in bed together. we are still strictly platonic. i wish more men could have friendships like ours.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 02:47 PM
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maybe if most straight men didn't suck so much. there's a reason why vast majority of my close friends are either women or gay men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 02:26 PM
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maybe he dated and fucked other people and liked her as a friend? most of my friends are women. i don't really like your average straight men as friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/21 10:32 PM
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how can anyone question this lmao, the whole idea of committing to a single person is unwise regardless of gender. also, So women in the west are often accused of being 'career driven feminists' accused? that's like saying someone is accused of being intelligent and and attractive. that's a good thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/21 08:51 PM
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Plenty of women will openly admit that their dating criteria changes in their 30’s well yeah so has mine lmao?? as if men don't look for different things in their partner at that age? And how is it an ego thing? Do you really not want to be treated the best by your partner that you’re committing to? Even women want this from their SO’s, no idea what you are on about with that point. depends on what being "treated best" means. i have read in reddit a lot of men being bitter their partner doesn't …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/21 08:46 PM
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women asymmetrically benefit from a situation like this based on my experiences it's men who like to have wild party years with loads of casual sex and then look to settle down with some nice "wife material" girl once they are approaching 30. that's definitely been the case for me. i'm 28 and i spent 2017-2019 partying almost every week sometimes fucking two different women on the same weekend. now i'm tired of it and want an LTR. my ex just complained to me that men in their 30's still are "loo…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/21 08:19 PM
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what if he wasn't trying to date her? maybe he had wild party years and now wants to settle down? that's the case for me. i spent 2017-2019 pursuing casual sex sometimes fucking a different woman on a friday and a saturday night and now i'm bored with it. in my experience women are ready to settle down much earlier than men in their life. my ex just complained to me that men in their 30's are still saying shit like "ehhh not looking for anything serious". she is hot as fuck so it's definitely no…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/21 08:00 PM
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they have a level of trust afforded to them that makes transgressions easier. that was not the case for me when i was more toxic, i was a cool "bad boy"
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/21 09:48 AM
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its clearly the whole friends part. what's bad about that?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/21 09:11 AM
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well why is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/21 09:11 AM
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“who was she banging those 7 years?” is not an insane question 3) but that for the boyfriend to ask what does it matter?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/21 09:09 AM
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She posted a lot of anti-hetero male content. oh no the horror.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/21 08:31 AM
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i thought male feminists were supposed to be soyboy cucks?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/21 08:26 AM
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radically different this is your own addition.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/21 08:03 AM
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men on average have worse social skills and verbal intelligence than women. men are overly blunt and direct. i do know how to communicate like a typical man, i just don't want to lower myself to that level.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/21 06:29 AM
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Ofcourse men are to blame for your lack of empathy and sympathy well yeah it has always been other boys/men who have had a problem with me when i have just wanted to be left alone. it's kind of hard to not develop negative attitudes about men when they so often treat me like shit. I hope you finally get to become a woman since being a man is so inherently evil. nah there's nothing inherently evil about being a man. society makes men evil. my two best friends are both men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/21 06:24 AM
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yes, and? i'm not really that much of a femboy most of the time in real life anyway, most of the time i look more like a bad boy that plays in some hipster rock band lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/21 06:21 AM
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men only have themselves to blame for garnering less sympathy. i certainly on average feel more sympathy for women than other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/21 06:18 AM
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I don’t know why it’s hard for you to imagine why a man would have a problem with a woman preferring to use her dildo/vibrator that’s bigger than him rather than having sex with him there's more to sex than penetration. i don't really care for PIV sex anyway. i have often used dildos/vibrators on women so that i wouldn't have to use my own dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/21 06:14 AM
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no not really, women performing anal stimulation on their male partners is standard af these days. most of my female partners have done stuff like licked and fingered my ass. it's not kinky anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/21 03:19 AM
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LMAO my partners have wanted to use my toys on me. this shit is just archaic stereotypes. i've also e.g. had my ass played with by many women, including pegging. can we stop pretending women these days care about this kind of stuff?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/21 03:12 AM
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real life is not an outdated episode of sex and the city. i have talked about sex toys with my female friends and we have showed each other what we have. my sex partners have used my toys on me.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/21 03:06 AM
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it is shameful for a man to use a Fleshlight it's almost the end of 2021, not the first few seasons of sex and the city.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/21 03:01 AM
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yep. sex toys have saved me many times when i haven't been in the mood for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/21 02:59 AM
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are they? not allowing your partner to use sex toys or watch porn are both prudish as fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/21 02:58 AM
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the whole premise is flawed, why would a man have a problem with their partner using sex toys? it certainly has never bothered me, to the contrary in fact. this whole discussion is so alien from the beginning, i'm glad if my partner has toys.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/21 02:55 AM
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bitter men just don't want to accept it. nobody ever wants to believe either that it was me as a man who proposed an open relationship with a woman. people in reddit are so convinced that men in heterosexual open relationships must always be "beta cucks" scared to say no to their female partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/21 01:13 AM
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it really does sound like they're settling for each other does that matter if the relationship still works and both find it satisfying? does it matter if your partner is not perfect to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/21 01:07 AM
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well yea i'm very extroverted and i enjoy meeting women regardless of if it leads to sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/21 01:01 AM
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no, i'm a bi dude who is more into women than men. i have never had a relationship with another man, only casual sex. all of my ex's are women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/21 12:44 AM
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it's a very specific subset of men that complains about friendzone. they are just overrepresented on the internet, especially on this site.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/21 08:08 PM
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some people are just objectively ugly like he is what makes him unattractive? It's insecure men here that will take ugly dudes like this and delude themselves to make themselves feel better. i'd say he is more attractive than me and i have a n count of around 70 and i have also dated very attractive women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/21 08:06 PM
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not relevant for the guy in OP. orbiting some woman while being in the "friendzone" is not really a thing among normal men anyway. they accept she is not interested and move to the next.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/21 07:25 PM
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rude, what disability do i have? do you believe your taste is objective?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/21 07:24 PM
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i have a lot of female friends and i'd say they support me more than i do them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/21 07:16 PM
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i'm good friends with my ex these days and i won't lie i sometimes dream that we would one day end up together again. i used to believe she was "the one". i'm still not "orbiting" her and i have kept fucking and dating other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/21 07:14 PM
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what if she was in his friendzone and he finally settled down?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/21 07:12 PM
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the guy is the more attractive one, why would he have been desperately orbiting her?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/21 07:12 PM
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However, the way it’s probably looked at is that the guy was an orbiter of hers for 8 yrs. this is a completely delusional assumption though. there is no way that guy wasn't fucking other women and men left and right when they were still friends. if i had to also assume i bet it's the dude who had a wild adolescence and now wants to settle down with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/21 07:09 PM
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uh? he's hot af, i'd let him top me no question.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/21 07:06 PM
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their brain goes in complete tilt when i tell them i have had a lot of casual sex and that it didn't make me happy. each morning after the women left my place or me theirs i felt just as lonely.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/21 07:05 PM
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There's a reason I say PPD is full of absolutely terrible people, lol. yep this sub has made me think even less of other men than i already do lmao. i remind myself though that this sub is very US centric and american culture in general is rotten to the core so obviously it also produces more terrible men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/21 07:02 PM
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how do you know she is not attracted to him?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/21 06:58 PM
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that just makes me more bewildered about the reaction. why are they assuming so much?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/21 06:55 PM
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yes, manosphere in general wants to reject a sense of agency and believe in predestination.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/21 06:35 PM
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We know that that couple isn't really "happy" - she's using him after getting banged out by Chads and Tyrones. If she is so "happy" with him, why couldn't she have been "Happy" with him 8 years ago? Why did she have to wait until her late 20s to figure it out? How many Chadrones blasted her insides before she "figured it out"? you are assuming a lot here based on nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/21 06:33 PM
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the responses i get when i admit that i used to be a manipulative fuckboy but a male feminist these days are even funnier. as if men can't develop as far as personality goes and understand they used to fall victim to toxic masculinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/21 06:29 PM
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i kinda suffered from that in my late teens because i was bit of an ugly duckling. i lost a lot of weight when i started university
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/21 06:23 PM
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A man is afraid of rejection for primitive reasons, it subconsciously and primitively says, “your bloodline is not worth continuing” in tribal terms. A woman is afraid of being exiled from the tribe for promiscuous behavior. Therefore she doesn’t approach. you went real quick from 0 too 110 in your evopsych bs tbh lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/21 02:38 PM
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good comment otherwise but there are actually a lot of attractive men with poor self-esteem that tell themselves the obvious signs of interest they receive from women must be in their head.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/21 02:36 PM
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For example if you take a woman who is 35 and a man who is 35, the difference in age will be zero, but the man will look much better relatively speaking than the woman (on average of course). based on what?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/21 02:16 PM
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i have no idea what you are trying to ask. people don't generally speaking care how many people others have fucked regardless of gender. it's not a topic that actually comes up in real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/21 02:11 PM
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the discussion here is once again extremely US centric. universities are dominated by women here in finland too. student loans and debt etc. are not really a relevant issue here. i think it's great to be honest. the percentage of women in "hard" sciences has been increasing, just as the percentage of men in "soft" sciences. the gender split in new students who major in maths for example is already like 50/50 IIRC. as a man who has never cared about STEM or other nerd shit i feel like we are star…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 05:53 AM
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"reality" doesn't matter. i don't believe in objective reality, perception is everything
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 05:18 PM
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well you could interview women and ask them why they are unhappy in their relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 04:42 PM
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All accounted for men work MORE hours in any given week than women when outside and housework is combined, there goes that lie. there's more to being a good partner than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 04:27 PM
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maybe the fault is in many men being bad LTR partners?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 04:27 PM
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oh i have tried many times. they just say i don't count because i'm a pretty boy. apparently if you are attractive that makes your points invalid. it's just funny that i'm 178 cm and skinny instead of tall and muscular. simply having a pretty face apparently suddenly means i don't know anything about other men's struggles.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 08:00 AM
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i understand women very easily as a man, men are even easier to read because a lot of men lack social skills and due to that are overly blunt and direct. so many men lack completely ability to be socially cunning like me. /u/toxicboy4lyf, thanks for this CMV! you seem like somebody with very similar views as me. i'm a skinny struggling "artist" and i have no problems with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 05:33 PM
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not every woman who has complimented has been sexually interested in me. not even ones who have told me things like "wow you're hot, love your cheekbones!" it's probably because they know i'm not the type of man that takes everything as a sign of "hey lets fuck" so they know they can compliment me more freely.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 03:37 AM
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the idea that men don't understand women. they are just people like us
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 12:51 PM
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women are very confusing creatures so it’s hard for us to tell. You can’t blame us. lmao yes i can.. how have i always understood women better than other men?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 12:45 PM
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those women weren't "below my level" i'd say, do women also "simp" those with similar level of attractiveness if they are fuckboys?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 04:32 PM
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i do but i'd say those women were my "looks match", and they still would gladly assist me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 12:14 PM
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eh it depends a bit. yes, at its bare essentials it's that definition. here's a decent article. it does not mention using women for money but then again in the US it's still normal for men to pay for dates. going dutch is the default here in finland. still these days i never pay anything for women, not even tap beer at a club. i also don't make them pay my drinks either like i used to though, unless they themselves offer to, which they have. i won't reject the offer if someone wants to buy me a …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 09:10 AM
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the term fuckboy originates from the US doesn't it? and using women for financial favours has always been part of the definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 08:59 AM
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you don't believe me? it's not really that rare that men mooch off their partners, atleast not here in finland. especially if you're a bit of a fuckboy like i used to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 08:53 AM
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yes, i already said i know i'm blessed. i'd never cut it as a traditional man and there's nothing bad about that. the model for a traditional man is incredibly flawed and problematic, it's a shame some men have to adhere to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 08:07 AM
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thank you! i'm not saying my experiences are the universal truth either, i'm just offering a counter view.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 08:05 AM
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i don't really believe in monogamy, i have told women that i want an open relationship with them. i'm not possessive or jealous type.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 01:34 AM
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well my two best friends are both gay men and i think they have much more quality and depth to their interactions with me and also other people than most women. i know though that gay men on average are quite different than typical straight men. toxic masculinity and all that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 12:01 AM
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can you clarify then? i know many men like me who are very well connected with a lot of friends and acquintances. i do have superficial charm, but i am also a genuinely nice person to those who i feel deserve my respect and empathy. i do have a few very close friends. i know a lot of men with over 1000 instagram followers. they aren't famous.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 11:49 PM
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why have i then got a lot of women as a skinny pretty boy? i'm very feminine. a lot of artistic "hipster chicks" are into men like me.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 11:31 PM
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yeah i hang around a lot in the electronic music scene and DJ's are very popular with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 11:29 PM
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it's also deeply rewarding short term passionate love affairs. i have fucked around 70 women and it stopped being validating or an ego boost a long time ago before i reached that number. i will admit the sex often wasn't that great or passionate, it tends not to be when you don't have a deep emotional connection. relationship sex is way better.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 11:28 PM
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i have fucked around 70 women and it stopped being validating or an ego boost a long time ago before i reached that number.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 11:27 PM
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no not really, for example in recent times i have put much more effort into writing my debut novel than using tinder or going out. i don't do this to make it pay in the end because becoming a writer would then help me score more pussy. this is my legitimate passion. not everything is about sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 11:22 PM
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women have bought me more things than i have to them and i have dated very attractive women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 11:20 PM
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how funny that you go for that "you're not a real man!" insult. it does not bother me at all, i don't really care for being a man. i'm not trans though. where you are wrong though is that i'm somehow very special. there are a lot of men like me, even straight ones. they might not be as feminine as me but they share my views. here in finland there are a lot of feminist men who are very socially progressive and leftist. i know many of those from university since i studied sociology. we are a very …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 09:26 PM
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i don't think a "typical" man is someone who tries to use physical intimidation. we are all mostly verbally aggressive people regardless of gender. it was other boys who very cunningly often bullied and betrayed me exploiting my trust when i was a kid, total snakes.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 09:18 PM
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Women are socially superior to men, therefore their statements tend to have more undertones in them that men do not pick up on. i really don't agree with this at all. i'm very socially talented and have great intuition to the point of sometimes in the past being cunning and devious. a lot of men are like me. when it comes to the so called dark triad traits, particularly machiavellianism, it's typically men who are like that. i find a lot of women are very gullible and easy to lie to. so are men,…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 09:12 PM
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no man is, we are all individuals.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 07:59 PM
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i'm 28. i usually look like your typical skinny artsy pretty boy, i look younger than my age. people often guess i'm like ~21-23. i don't really do stuff like wear skirts or etc. that often. i do wear makeup very often when i go out but it's mostly just eyeliner for that "rockstar bad boy" look. finnish writer miki liukkonen has a very similar "look" and style as i do.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 07:23 PM
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well yeah, that's the point. this sub pisses me off because people here constantly make sweeping generalisations about both men and women that make me think: no, i am nothing like that, neither are my male friends. no, the women i know are nothing like that. they are often based on some junk science, just personal "trust me bro" anecdotes, or supposed "thinkers" like jordan peterson that are absolute hacks out of their element.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 06:44 PM
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you are not a typical man true, i know i'm blessed.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 05:01 PM
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sorry it pisses me off when people make stupid generalisations here.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 02:40 PM
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have you noticed how women create intimacy with one another by sharing intimate secrets? And then, when the relationship sours, they use that knowledge against one another? i have done the exact same thing as a man. It is one of the reasons women say men are much easier to deal with. lmao who says that? most of my friends are either women or gay men. i can't get along with typical straight men atleast on the level that i could be close friends with them. men are more likely to come to blows or p…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 02:33 PM
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yeah, i have received a lot of critical feedback from people in the past and guess what, i have learned from it. my own friends called out my toxic masculinity when i was younger and i didn't strike back; i felt like an asshole and decided to change my ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 02:30 PM
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lmao, i have lost MANY friendships with women because when i get into an argument i tend to escalate it like mad and then i do a full fucking assault insulting everything from their intelligence to who they are friends with. i am working on this in psychotherapy but the idea that men don't do this lol..
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 02:29 PM
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yeah because men care more about social status.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 01:16 PM
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Everyday, a woman is being told by strangers, whether it is online or in real life, that she is attractive so with this thought in her mind, of course it’ll be easy for her to love herself because she knows that other people desire her. young women are on average more insecure about their appearance than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 08:08 AM
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We can not erase the "bad" side of masculinity, because the attributes ARE inherent lol. i'm a man and i like things such as pop music, fashion, fragrances and makeup. when i was a little boy i preferred to play princess with the girls rather than with cars with other boys. tell me more about inherent attributes of masculinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 10:46 PM
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The people you call "insecure" for desiring sexual exclusivity represent the vast majority of humanity. yes because of social conditioning. i do not believe for one moment that monogamy is strictly born out of some sort of innate biological desire for exclusivity. being poly is becoming increasingly common among young people atleast here in finland. a lot of men don't admit they are in a poly relationship because they don't want to be seen as a "cuck", even if their relationship means they also …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 10:14 AM
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insecure jealous people who want their partner only for themselves and nobody else do not represent human nature either.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 09:52 AM
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of course it does, people desire novelty and variety. my ex was very beautiful and i still wanted to fuck other women while we dated. luckily i'm in an open relationship with my current gf. even if we lived in same city i'd probably want an open relationship tbh, too many hot women out there that are also into me. people have always wanted to get out of the restrictions of monogamy with for example "wife swapping" and swinger communities.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 09:40 AM
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restricted sociosexual orientations this is not strictly biological but also caused by environment i.e. social norms. The problem is when people pretend promiscuous women make for good LTRs. who says you can't have a non-mono LTR? my best friend has been with his partner for 6 years and they have an open relationship. they seem very happy and content with each other. they live under same roof and everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 09:34 AM
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maybe we should try to destroy the expectation of monogamy then rather than trying to go against human nature?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 08:50 AM
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"cheating" only exists as traditionally defined if we expect monogamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 08:37 AM
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the problem is in the concept of marriage. monogamy is a flawed social structure. luckily people are starting to see it too, being poly is increasingly common atleast here in finland among young people. i have an open relationship with my gf and i was the one who proposed it. we live in different cities so it's nice that i can fuck other women when she is not here or me there. i have a few regular fwb's here in my own city.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 08:36 AM
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the expectation of monogamy is the problem, not people being promiscuous. monogamy is what goes against human nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 08:35 AM
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well it's not cheating if you are allowed to have sex with other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 08:34 AM
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what if you don't care if your partner "cheats" and you have an open relationship? monogamy is increasingly becoming passé in my own social circles. i have an open relationship with my gf, i was the one who proposed it. it feels like every other tinder match i get is poly.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 08:24 AM
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if i read one more fucking post about paying for dates i swear.. like where have all these people from the 60's come from? i'm struggling to remember a time a i bought a woman anything at all on a date. i owe my gf like 50 euros or something as it stands and i doubt she even cares.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/21 05:20 AM
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well i'm talking about finnish cultural context. almost nobody here places value on some guy being a "manwhore"; to the contrary, i know some women who would've otherwise been interested in me, who lost interest after hearing rumours how many women i've fucked.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 06:31 AM
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yes. i have fucked approx ~70 women and i see nothing impressive about it. i seeked casual sex so much because i was bullied for most of my youth (i got called a f*ggot, "you'll die a virgin" etc.) which created an inner desire to prove my bullies wrong. psychotherapy has helped me a lot and these days i don't really desire casual sex with different partners that much. i desired it to prove my worth as a man which was a textbook example of toxic masculinity. disclaimer: i have nothing against en…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 06:16 AM
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it was other boys who bullied me for being feminine, not women. i have always got along better with women than the average man. that has not stopped me from finding sexual success. when women are just people to you you also understand more intuitively how to appeal to them and be attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 01:56 AM
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because a lot of men are unbearable as friends. it wasn't until i got into university that i started to find other men i get along with. still now at 28 a lot of my close friends are women. my two best friends are both gay men though.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 01:50 AM
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nobody cares about being sexually "impressive". there is nothing impressive about my high n count as a man. i'm not more impressive than someone with less sexual partners just because of that. this post is frankly juvenile. adults don't rank each other by who gets the most pussy or dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 01:45 AM
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feminist literature also describes how patriarchy hurts and denigrates men who can't fit its model for what a man should be like.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 10:43 AM
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yawn.. read some actual feminist literature
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 08:46 AM
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no i did not drop it. society 20 years ago was much more biphobic and shunned feminine men like me. how likely would i be to find women 20 years ago that are okay with me being bi, with me wearing makeup, with me even sometimes going as far as to wear skirts? how many women would i find that gladly peg me or in general play with my ass, like many women have?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 08:45 AM
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toxic masculinity, rape culture, patriarchic oppression ect... ) i blame men's problems on things like this too. repeat after me: PATRIARCHY HURTS MEN TOO i definitely am thankful for feminism enabling me to live my life more like i want than i could lets say 20 years ago
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 05:16 AM
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same. apparently i'm a chad with my 178 cm body and 18.3 BMI since i have had a lot of sexual success and even when my approaches have failed i have never been considered creepy. i feel like i'm such a minority in reddit as a very outgoing artistic extrovert that for example posts tons of selfies in instagram. i wonder how many people here e.g. atleast read poetry, let alone write it, like i do?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 04:41 PM
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i am that way, what stops you from being the same way? i'm still courteous and polite in my approaches, mind you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 04:38 PM
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i have been rejected without being considered creepy. just act like a normal human being an learn to understand live interactions. body language and tones of voice are more important than actual said words.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 04:35 PM
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there is no universal language or rules for approaching somebody. you need to be able to read body language, tones of voice etc. to normal people this comes naturally, maybe you should practice. i have been rejected many times and i'm fairly confident none of the women have considered me creepy. some have even complimented me along the lines of: "sorry i'm not interested but thanks for being such a gentleman about it!"
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 04:34 PM
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yes and it's still all fine for me because i don't need to appeal to majority of women
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 02:29 AM
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by appealing to his own niche. i'm a skinny feminine pretty boy. i appeal to very specific type of women and they appeal to me so it all works out.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 09:13 PM
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there are women who are into skinny pretty boys. tell me how that fits same archetype?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 09:12 PM
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he's way too masculine for many of the women i've fucked
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 09:10 PM
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i have had sex with a lot of women although i only appeal to minority of them. if lets say 10% of women find you attractive that's still a lot if you don't live in middle of nowhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 09:09 PM
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If by that you mean suppressing your basest desires and instincts are you sure it's that way? maybe less equal societies exaggerate them? i don't care e.g. about the boob size of women or if they have long or short hair. it's genuine, i don't try to be "woke"
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 02:59 PM
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you can't have a data driven opinion on using tinder i'm afraid, atleast it'd be very hard to do
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 02:38 PM
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okay apologies
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 01:20 PM
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Women prefer, on average, a larger height difference between themselves and their partner (i.e. males being much taller than themselves) than men do. This effect is even more pronounced when examining satisfaction with actual partner height: women are most satisfied when their partner was 21 cm (8 inches) taller, whereas men are most satisfied when they were 8 cm (3 inches) taller than their partner. (N = 52,677) interesting data, not sure how much culture plays into this though. i'd imagine wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 09:26 AM
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The online dating world is tailor-made for their success and for the success of a handful of tall, good-looking Chads. i've fucked around 70 women, most of them from tinder, and i'm 178 cm. i've also never had my height in my tinder bio. for most women it's enough that you are taller than them, nothing more. i've banged a few women taller than me also though. my ex was same height as me, taller if she wore heels or boots with a thick sole.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 02:24 AM
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This can't be because men aren't trying to get laid. yes it is. they have stuff like internet, video games and especially online porn to distract them and keep them from being actually motivated to try to get laid
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 02:23 AM
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Women slut shame way more than men. And if slut shaming was so bad, women wouldn't do it. yes and men shame other men for being virgins or sexually inexperienced. it was other boys who bullied me in school while the girls even sometimes defended me.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 02:20 AM
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you can use hard drugs recreationally too without it affecting your life, i have and many of my friends have.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 02:18 AM
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many of my relationships started by casual sex. my ex was a ONS that turned out not be a ONS as we kept seeing each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 02:17 AM
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i've always gotten along better with girls than other boys. that's probably why i know how to talk to them and how to be attractive to them. girls and women have always been just people to me and not this strange mysterious different species.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 02:14 AM
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as do men who are not horndogs that just want to get their dick wet. i swipe left on like atleast 90% of women in tinder.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 02:12 AM
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well yeah what about it? i have a very specific type in terms of what kind of women i like too.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 02:11 AM
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i have lost interest in women too over very small reasons, who cares? even in my small country of finland there are so many people i can still pick from the ones i do like. i don't understand how somebody living in a city in the US can't find a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 02:10 AM
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well yeah duh. androids tend to be favoured by the more nerdy STEM-lord types that obviously don't get laid. apple is seen as a feminine brand for "soy boys" i have an android phone myself btw
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 02:08 AM
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because i keep having to tell in this sub what i am like. i don't fit the view of what this sub thinks men should be like to have sexual success and yet i have
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 12:20 AM
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Or so I've heard lmao the result of that is both men and women get penetrated right. yes and it's wonderful. more men should be open to the idea of being on the receiving side of anal stimulation. it's us who have a prostate after all. and no i don't think viewing pornographic material makes you a cuck neither does someone else seeing you have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 12:18 AM
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plenty, i have a gf and i've had sex with around 70 women. a lot of women like skinny artistic pretty boys.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 12:02 AM
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we are one of the most gender equal societies in the world yes. i don't give a shit about any "no homo" shit, i'm bi. the men paying to see me fuck my gf would be the ones getting cucked, obviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 12:00 AM
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i advocate for relationship anarchy. i consider marriage an outdated concept and that's pretty much the only bureaucracy that goes to relationships isn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 11:19 PM
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you can have an open relationship you know. i have with my gf and it was me who proposed it. commitment is not bad, monogamy is.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 11:17 PM
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i had sex with a 40 year old woman earlier this summer who was smoking hot. her body had no cellulite, wrinkles etc. her skin looked very young and smooth. i'm 28. also, what convo?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 10:10 PM
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you do seem quite HPD though. i am myself, that's how i recognise it
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 09:26 PM
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I have no idea what cluster B traits are. personality disorders antisocial, borderline, narcissistic and histrionic are grouped under the umbrella cluster B because they are very similar and have overlapping traits
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 08:53 PM
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do you think you have a lot of cluster B traits? also, your face definitely is not appealing to me. you look very slavic, and not in a good way.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 08:39 PM
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what the fuck lmaooooo. i'm not going to make OF right now but i know that men like me appeal to a lot of gay men, but also women. i have a n count of around 70 women. here's two pics of me, what do you think: https://imgur.com/a/jBGY7NT
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 08:12 PM
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did you ignore the rest? are you "cool"? do you have charisma, interesting hobbies that appeal to women? do you understand fashion? i love clothes, i can even name some of my favourite designers. i've been called stylish many times. can you look at yourself with a "female gaze"? do you understand what is a good picture of you? photography is one of my hobbies
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 08:04 PM
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how am i wasting my time? i like to hear different viewpoints. why do you want to block someone who has a different view than you lmao, it's PurplePillDebate
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 07:55 PM
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so improve your social skills and become an interesting vibrant person. i know i'm attractive but i also have a very charismatic personality. i'm very outgoing and social. i'm also creative and artistic, i write both prose and poetry. i sing. i sometimes make music together with my friend who produces music, i provide the singing/rapping.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 07:51 PM
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what assistance? being a NEET is more of a male problem. universities are mostly women these days. i have both a gf and great female friends that support me. women have bought me more stuff than i have to them. i owe my gf something like 40 euros right now as i type this and i don't think she even cares.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 07:49 PM
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I'm in the top 10% of women definitely not. your body is good but face is very meh. wouldn't call you ugly but definitely not attractive. not sure about your age, maybe if you are older you could be top 10% in your age group if you use some sort of "objective measures"
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 07:46 PM
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thought about that too! there are quite a lot of gay me in OF who have a thing for femboys who'd be ready to pay to see me play with myself or maybe see me getting pegged by my gf.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 06:32 PM
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well yeah exactly lol, sex is about more than just the physical act. where is the emotional connection with a sex worker? how do you feel desired and validated by someone who is paid to fuck you?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 06:29 PM
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it's not cuckolding if my gf sells pics of herself online. i'd feel empowered by the fact that other men would be ready to pay to simply see my gf naked, while i get to fuck her for free. i'd feel superior to her customers. especially if other men would pay to see me having sex with my gf, damn that would make me feel good.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 03:06 PM
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i don't think i could've ever been as self confident as i am now at any point in history. as a man i've been empowered by feminism. i proudly wear skirts, use makeup etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 02:54 PM
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how does a woman become conservative? why do you want to hurt your fellow sisters? frankly, you hurt men like me too. luckily finland is one of the most socially progressive countries in the world and the problems described here are rarely relevant to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 02:53 PM
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men being thirsty losers is not women exploiting men
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 02:50 PM
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Maybe you want men to marry them too and treat it like a normal job? yea? i have talked with my gf about the idea of opening an OF account. i find the idea that other men would be ready to pay for what i get for free flattering.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 02:46 PM
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20YO male mechanical engineering student it's so funny to me how reddit is so full of you types. i sometimes feel like an unicorn here as an artistic guy that has always got along better with women than men. i wonder what percentage of redditors write poetry like i do?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 02:45 PM
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i have no idea how someone can enjoy sex with a person that they know is only doing it for money.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 02:43 PM
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that would change nothing lol. incels don't actually care about having sex, they care about the validation of being genuinely desired by someone. paying for it obviously doesn't sate that hunger.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 02:42 PM
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literally zero difference. OF has no relevance for real life dating. would some random porn site shutting down affect dating? of course not.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 02:41 PM
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so you also are not willing to actually debate me but just be snarky?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 07:18 PM
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i'm proudly what i am, there are luckily women who do like feminine pretty boys. my gf is turned on by me wearing a short skirt coupled with thigh socks.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 05:41 PM
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i do know and i don't care lol, just saying that it does happen in reverse too. i have a gf who really likes me and a n count of around 70.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 05:41 PM
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i think you mean flair, i doubt you even realise what my username is
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 05:33 PM
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then the majority wouldn't struggle getting women they don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 05:08 PM
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they've been measured multiple times, they're within normal range.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 04:42 PM
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creative artistic "hipster chicks" tend to swoon for my "type". those are also the type of women i like. it's not like i'm pretending. i'm very extroverted and social, but also melancholic
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 03:47 PM
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Which of the following activities is the one you enjoy the most on holidays none of the activities really fit, i like to party and explore new things. i score very high in extraversion and openness to experience as defined by big 5. How often do you smile/laugh/look happy on pictures? not sure what this one tries to gauge. i almost never look happy on pictures but that's because being a brooding tortured artist is my thing. it doesn't reflect my emotional state. i'm a sad boy, but mostly only in…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 02:38 PM
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nah, men are willing to have sex 4-5 times more often than women, it's not the problem are we? many of my female partners have had higher libido than me.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 02:26 PM
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i don't think this is nearly as common as you think. the tendency to think in hierarchies or like hierarchies has neuropsychological roots. i really don't think in terms of hierarchies, which is reflected by my political views, which can be summed up as anarchism.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 02:24 PM
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plenty of fish in the sea. if it doesn't work out with someone i move to the next.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 01:45 PM
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whats the point of replies like these? i'm a man and i agree with her. i'm a male feminist though. nobody ever tries to debate me here, they just ignore me.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 11:21 AM
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why even make a post like this if you are not going to argue anything. change my view? more like "confirm my biases"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 11:18 AM
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how come i have then been pump & dumped by women
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 11:15 AM
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being sociable, funny, taking risks, being a conversationalist, being a great seducer, having a great personality, being animated, telling stories, etc. THIS TAKES A FUCK TON OF EFFORT to master is it women's fault that a lot of men fail at such basic fucking things? Unless you are natural at these things. i guess i am. i know a lot of other men who are too. they are not the type to frequent a sub like this or reddit at all though.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 11:13 AM
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When you are at the club, how much effort, conquering your fears and risking embarrassment do you have to do to just talk to women and get attention from women? hey i'm a man and i feel none of that. i often go to clubs ALONE feeling like a winner when i step in. just putting on my night life fragrance on my wrists and collarbones (viktor & rolf's spicebomb) turns on my "okay i'm about to hit the club" mode. it's funny how strong the mind associates smells with different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 11:09 AM
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lmao jesus christ what the fuck is wrong with you people. i just enjoy myself, ask questions, talk about myself.. i'm very social and extroverted so ofc reddit has full of guys who can't relate but i have enjoyed many dates that didn't even lead to a second date.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 11:07 AM
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you don't even try to argue back lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 10:48 AM
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there are a lot of available men and manyt of them can't even pass women's low standards. you really didn't make any point
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 10:40 AM
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well to be fair, the actual break up with my ex was quite messy and conflicted. later on though we settled our differences and agreed to be friends. we both agreed that we had been shitty to each other, and that we wouldn't work as a couple, but as friends we do great. i'd say during our relationship i was worse towards her than she was towards me.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 10:11 PM
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i don't want my gf to choose how she dresses based on how it affects male attention, she is free to express herself
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 08:35 PM
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yeah thats fine, men should also be okay with other men hitting on their woman instead of getting jealous this also applies other way
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 08:29 PM
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changing your attire just so men don't approach you sounds stupid as fuck. women should be free to dress how they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 08:08 PM
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If your partner allows other people to hit on them, it is a problem. how should one preemptively reject unwanted advances?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 06:59 PM
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did you know you can amicably separate? i'm good friends with my ex
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 06:55 PM
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i've been called beautiful and complimented in other words by many women, they did it without being creepy or harassing. i have a gf and a n count of ~70. of course women can do shitty things drunk too, never denied that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 05:00 PM
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well not really? or would you say e.g. all red pillers have exact same views?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 11:31 AM
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i believe them considering how much i've been harassed by other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 10:36 AM
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feminism is quite a large umbrella, of course there are disagreements. feminists are not a monolith, i disagree with many other feminists on some issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 10:05 AM
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yes true although both are things where men are still overrepresented
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 07:57 AM
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gynocentrism and patriarchy can both exist at the same time, yes. women have more value than men because they are property of men. other men are competition. "women and children first" is part of patriarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 07:38 AM
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like what
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 07:22 AM
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have you considered that this is part of patriarchy? it's other side of the coin that society does not see women as having same level of agency as men. women are objects and property, so things just "happen to them"
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 07:21 AM
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yeah US is a bit special, men paying for dates is apparently still the norm there. i have never as much as bought a drink to a woman, everyone pays their own expenses as a general rule. women have bought me more stuff than i have to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 06:21 AM
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straight up fucking delusional. i have never encountered a man being blamed for getting cheated on. maybe cultural difference, finland is one of the most gender equal societies in the world. women have defended ME from other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 06:06 AM
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yeah with my ex i was monogamous and i definitely had some women who could've been called female orbiters. I’ve never really run into actual attractive women being orbiters. i see what you mean. i think they sort of think that by being overly sexual they can use "easy pussy" as leverage
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 06:02 AM
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i've been the man in that situation and i definitely don't fit the stereotypical chad's definition. i'm borderline underweight pretty boy who has been called beautiful many times, not so much handsome.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 05:53 AM
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i've been the man whose been hit on by both men and women in front of my partners. my partners have been hit on in front of me by both men and women and it didn't bother me.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 05:53 AM
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Point is, men are damned if we do and damned if we don't use tinder, if you get a match you know from the start there is some level of interest. also, if you have some social skills you can "hit on" women in real life too without coming across as a creep. i have unsuccesfully pursued women in real life and despite not succeeding i haven't been a creep.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 05:51 AM
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We do have to deal with female orbiters. exactly lol. i have an open relationship with my gf (i was the one who proposed it) so it's not really a problem that i have some female "orbiters". actually they are female friends i have an fwb arrangement with so i really don't like to call them orbiters. they are good friends that i also sometimes have sex with.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 05:48 AM
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and the guy bears all the consequences if that happens. how exactly? if you get cheated on of course the cheater is at blame.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 05:46 AM
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I also know that women would still get sympathy from people instead of being told to suck it up uhh if some woman is insecure about her partner having female friends they are definitely told to suck it up and stop being insecure. women on Reddit and in real life get angry when their boyfriends just follow attractive women on Instagram me following someone is not the same thing as someone "following" me. and my ex was definitely insecure from all the women who'd come to talk to me in clubs and pa…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 05:42 AM
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being impulsive is good, i hate people that are not adventurous. i have made many women who generally don't use drugs use drugs with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/21 05:50 PM
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what is that even supposed to mean? how does the number of past partners affect the present
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/21 04:37 PM
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A man wants to marry a woman with little sexual experience no i don't. i want an experienced partner. i have had enough bad blowjobs in my life and women who don't know how to ride a dick. that said, communication is what makes for good sex. something that works for one doesn't work for another. i also never want to marry. next topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/21 01:13 PM
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i can enjoy high dopamine activities, even as far as drugs, and still also have the motivation and energy for e.g. physical exercise and reading books.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/21 08:01 AM
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jesus christ you guys make living a normal life sound complicated it ain't that fucking deep. just be a well put together interesting person and youll find someone
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/21 08:01 AM
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as a writer/poet i can tell you that the art and culture scene is filled with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/21 07:37 AM
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depends on what qualifies for an average man. my current gf is from tinder just like my ex. Being used for free dinner, sure. yawn.. going dutch is the default here. also, a dinner date is way too formal. my typical date is going for a beer to some nice comfy bar we both buy our own drinks.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/21 05:06 AM
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lmaoooo
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 09:29 AM
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also, i recently did this quite good compressed big five test in finnish that gives you the score on each domain on a 10-50 scale. my results were: extraversion: 50/50 agreeableness: 22/50 conscientiousness: 14/50 neuroticism: 49/50 openness to experience: 50/50
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 07:17 AM
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i'd really like to read the source for this if you can find it, genuinely. i have a lot of cluster B traits and i'm very attractive coupled with history of being bullied as a child/teen. my ex was bit of a dark triad woman and she was somewhat of an ugly duckling that became hot as fuck around her late teens or so.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 06:50 AM
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what about it? yes, abusive men are very common, because men in general from all walks of life are pretty shitty a lot of the time. that's the sad thing isn't it, even men who aren't bitter from not getting sex can be monsters.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/21 09:54 PM
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everyone? the toronto van killer and elliott rodger killed both men and women didnt they
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/21 09:20 PM
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that post is super interesting! what's your issue with it?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/21 08:03 PM
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that chart has always made me laugh, it has such a specific view of what it thinks is attractive. joe jonas is more attractive than a lot of the dudes higher than him in the chart. whoever is 3rd from right in 7's is crazy hot too
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/21 07:16 PM
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can we stop trying to assign people on a 1-10 scale
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/21 07:15 PM
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they are not only low value but dangerous. they also perpetuate attitudes that poison the minds of many young insecure men that could become HVM one day.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/21 07:14 PM
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i don't see anything wrong with her strategy. you are not exclusive with someone until you have had that talk and then decided so. FDS on the other hand is very problematic in many ways. for example the biphobia, transphobia, neo-puritan attitudes towards e.g. BDSM and sex work..
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/21 07:06 PM
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well tell me, why would a middle aged man not have sex with someone his own age if they find them attractive? why would they specifically target those half his age? yeah people are allowed to have preferences, but we can also critically analyse where those preferences stem from.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/21 02:18 PM
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yeah maybe a generalization. but if someone specifically targets 20 year olds and would not have sex with someone closer to their own age despite them being attractive that's definitely a 🚩
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/21 02:15 PM
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but a large percentage go for the 20 year olds. yeah, the creeps. i'm 28 and when i browse tinder i come across many attractive women older than me (my age range is set at 18-50) and i see no reason why i wouldn't fuck them. earlier this summer i had sex with this 40 year old woman and man she was smoking.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/21 01:56 PM
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the user you are responding to doesn't even believe women have sexual desire. she doesn't also understand emotional connection is important for sex for both men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/21 01:54 PM
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yeah i'm definitely much more attractive to women now at 28 than i was around 22. ever since i was around 20 i've been decently popular, but my popularity has definitely risen from ~24-25 onwards
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/21 01:52 PM
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MBTI is crap, big five is much better.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/21 09:07 PM
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Men and women aren’t accepting of each other really? how many women would i find 50 years ago that would be okay with pegging me or in general being sexually dominant? how many women would i find 50 years ago that would be find my crossdressing hot instead of repulsive?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 05:12 AM
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that was quite tongue in cheek. we really weren't that toxic to each other or others. we were just two cool good-looking artists that looked down on the "rubes". i'm utilizing hyperbole here for a more vivid description.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 12:07 PM
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my ex was definitely more of a dark triad woman. we together looked down on other people while praising each other and making each other feel superior to others. a lot of factors went to it. we were incredibly similar outwardly. same height (178 cm), almost same weight (60 kg), very similar facial features, both very good-looking. we dressed similarly, liked same things. it was obvious that we were an "item" when we went to some party or event together. it was seriously like she was a female ver…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 11:31 AM
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i don't really agree with you. as /u/RedPillDetox said, people like those similar to them. i have a lot of cluster B traits, particularly HPD, and i also score high in dark triad tests. some of my exes and past friends have called me a narcissist. i'm not one, but i understand, why they went for that insult. my gf is very empathetic but she is not codependent. she is a very independent strong woman. although i would defend her if the need arises, she has no problem telling herself some creepy gu…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 11:19 AM
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apologies
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 11:16 AM
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depends. two narcissists can form a sort of a power couple that together looks down on others and praises each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 10:36 AM
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how come? my gf is a radical feminist who despises most men. she is also more of a wallflower while i'm very outgoing and social. my n count with women is around 70. my gf is very risk averse regarding men due to her past bad experiences with them. she is not the type to fuck some random guy from a club or tinder no matter how hot they are. i was the one who proposed to her that i want an open relationship lol. and she is not a landwhale, she is very beautiful and according to BMI underweight.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 02:53 PM
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okay i'm not really familiar with the term
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 02:07 PM
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yes i live in finland in one of our largest cities
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 06:09 AM
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every woman I meet is into uwu, choke me, dom daddy sex and i've found women who like to be dominant. i've been pegged and spanked by multiple women. my current gf is a switch like me and we both dominate and submit depending on the mood and vibe we're feeling.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 05:36 AM
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and men are sharing women. being in an open relationship or polyamorous is getting more and more common.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 05:32 AM
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i have a soft harem. i know women who have a soft harem of men. one of my fwb's most definitely has other fwb's of her own than just me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 05:31 AM
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women are not more wild but it's definitely much closer to equal these days. i very much enjoy it lol since i'm very wild myself. i've found a lot of women who make for great companions for wild weekends full of partying and very little sleep.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 05:29 AM
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You sure like to keep things generalized. do you respond same way to the men in this sub who make absolutely awful and derogatory generalizations about women? it happens like every single thread so you have quite a workload. to me it's obvious what i mean if the person i'm talking to doesn't feel like they are getting personally attacked. very few things bore me as much when some man goes all #NotAllMen i'll quote a good part from /r/AskFeminists wiki: The "Not All Men" argument, while correct, …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 04:52 AM
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Where did I do this? wasn't talking about you specifically but in general sense. You must hate yourself i love myself and simultaneously dislike most other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 04:31 AM
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So I deserve it? no, but instead of complaining who has it harder compared to women, you should try to do something about men. men are each other's worst enemy. Is that how most robberies start? no, it was a rhetorical generalization.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 04:07 AM
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there is a good finnish book about tinder's algorithm. not sure if something similar exists in english.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 03:14 AM
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yeah, by other men. also, women are more likely to face violence from a complete stranger without provocation from their part. men get beat up because they get in arguments with other men that escalate.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 03:11 AM
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Boys are horrible to other boys, men are horrible to boys and men are horrible to other men. Men make sure that the men around them are tough and are unforgiving on them if they're not so by the time men get to work, they are tough enough to deal with it. yes this is part of patriarchy and why patriarcy hurts men too. there is a reason why most of my close friends are either women or gay men. most straight men suck, atleast for more than casual interaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 02:39 AM
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When a guy says he's single/alone he's not getting ANY action or female validation. 0. oh yeah that's why i was having tons of casual sex when i was single and had a few fwb's.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 12:48 AM
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i have a soft harem, but i share too. i have an open relationship with my gf.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 12:47 AM
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jesus fucking christ you're 14 and you're already absorbing complete bullshit from internet. i hope you grow up.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 12:46 AM
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the girls are not necessarily off the market. women can have soft harems too. i can date 3 people at the same time and all 3 can also be dating 3 other people at the same time.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 12:46 AM
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i have a soft harem and i've told my gf openly that i want an open relationship and she is okay with it. it's perfectly possible my gf also has a fwb deal with a few of her male friends, i don't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 12:44 AM
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i don't think anyone would describe me a chad and i have a "soft harem". i have my gf who i have an open relationship with, and i have a few women i'm fwb's with.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 12:39 AM
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have you tried pursuing them? also, a lot of 30 yo's don't want to be a mommy to their bf even if being older than their male partner isn't in itself a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 12:37 AM
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fairly specific type of women. they tend to be leftist and very socially progressive like i am myself. the creative and artsy types, like i am myself. i'm a writer, i write both prose and poetry. photography is one of my main hobbies. multiple women have themselves wanted to e.g. play with my ass etc. here's two pics of me that have made women say: "wow you are so hot!!" https://imgur.com/a/ubw3QQE
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/21 09:59 PM
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i wouldn't have a problem with that lol so no need to make me feel better, i'm an "A-tier" guy too. my n count with women is around 70 and all of them have been attractive to my eyes atleast, but very clearly to others' too.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/21 09:55 PM
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perfectly possible. it's probably the combination of the two. i did a finnish online test for it that was quite good (i've studied psychology so i know a bit how to assess an online self-test) and my scores in the domains were on a 10-50 scale: extraversion: 50 agreeableness: 22 conscientiousness: 14 neuroticism: 49 openness: 50
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/21 09:51 PM
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also, did you check how low openness is described? People who score low on openness are considered to be closed to experience. They tend to be conventional and traditional in their outlook and behavior. They prefer familiar routines to new experiences, and generally have a narrower range of interests. Openness has moderate positive relationships with creativity, intelligence and knowledge. i wouldn't be able to be friends with such a person. we would be way too different. i will never understand…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/21 07:02 PM
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i actually don't know, we have decided that we should not tell each other if we have fucked someone else. she was the one who said she really wouldn't want to know, ignorance is a bliss i guess. but as i said it's very unlikely she's fucking loads of dudes on the side, i know what she is like. even if she was, that wouldn't really bother me. emotional connection is more important to me and i'm not possessive or jealous type. if she is having casual sex with some dudes, kind of like using them as…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/21 06:49 PM
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By your logic toxic masculinity can be rebranded as internalized misandry because men literally end up burning themselves out doing things that society expects of them for some reason. i really don't see this as a wrong thing to say. patriarchy hurts men too, it has certainly hurt me.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/21 11:04 AM
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do you eat the same food every day? i'm in general a very adventurous and spontaneous person. i hate routines and i love to try new things. i score extremely high in openness to experience. i'm also very extroverted.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/21 10:00 AM
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>healthy >monogamy monogamy is based on being possessive and jealous
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/21 09:52 AM
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We want people to stay together more, its good for our sOcIeTy and cIvIlIzAtIoN as a whole. is it really? i advocate for relationship anarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/21 09:51 AM
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because sex is fun and sometimes you want to have it with different partners for a change.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/21 09:48 AM
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You were claiming it's biphobia to not want to date or sleep with bisexual men. also, it obviously is if the bisexuality itself is the reason for it. if someone would want to sleep with me, but then they lose interest when they find out i'm bi, that's obviously biphobia. simply not wanting to sleep with me is not biphobia. it can also be a mixture of homophobia, some women find revolting the idea that their male partner has possibly in the past sucked dick or taken dick in the ass. women who are…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/21 09:22 AM
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I have no idea what your sexual success has to do with this comment. you clearly insinuated that us men are complaining about women's biphobia because we have problems getting laid or something. This is what I mean about the inauthenticity of people using SJW terms. This is just another way to attack women for existing in a way men don't like. It's a new tool for misogyny. maybe some do, i don't. don't assume shit about me. they are also not "SJW terms". i have studied sociology as my major in u…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/21 09:17 AM
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you were clearly playing to the red pill stereotype/meme what feminist men are like. i am not a pussy, i'm very argumentative. i have burned bridges with some leftist women who i have felt have not appreciated me enough or been a good friend. i have told them this while telling them to go fuck themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/21 07:47 AM
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yeah because if you are poly you must be some some cuck and your partner a slut. i'm in an open relationship with my gf. i was the one who said i don't think traditional monogamy would work for me, since we live in different cities. i like that i can fuck other people when she is not visiting me or me her. my gf is bit shy and a wallflower as far as personality goes. i'm very outgoing and social. my gf often complains to me about all the creepy men whose unwanted attention she receives when she …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/21 07:33 AM
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my question is who cares? marriage is an outdated concept just like monogamy. relationship anarchy is the way.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/21 07:28 AM
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just because you write it in mocking tone doesn't make it false. i was the one who proposed to my gf that we should have an open relationship. i am the one who mostly benefits from it, my gf is more of a wallflower while i am the life of the party.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/21 07:27 AM
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I'm thinking that the FDS sub is staggeringly liberal and full of POC users. nah, i think they are bitter wine aunts that espouse easy sub-urban/urban white woman feminism. that's why they are so biphobic too for example. they don't really critically analyse their own views. they just retweet stupid YASSS KWEEEN SLAYYY takes from twitter and swallow them without chewing.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/21 06:52 AM
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i dislike FDS but that's exactly what they always talk about, how to vet for men who actually want an LTR.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/21 06:50 AM
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my mother has her problems but in general she has been a very good person both to me and my father. she has called herself a feminist since the early 80's. recently i called her out on her kind of victim blamey attitudes when i talked about my female friend who was assaulted. she is more of a realist while i'm an idealist. she basically said "as a young woman you should not get too drunk alone at someone else's place". i said that it's true, but it still doesn't mean the perpetrator is any less …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/21 06:40 AM
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No one is entitled to anyone's body no matter the reason, no matter the preference yeah and we can still critically analyse where these preferences come from. i have had plenty of sexual success despite also facing problematic attitudes from some women. luckily NAWALT, FDS is just a cesspool of bitter women who have been hurt by men. it also has way too much of that easy sub-urban white woman feminism you should read my other posts in this chain, and also that /r/MensLib thread. it has plenty of…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/21 06:19 AM
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browse /r/AreTheStraightsOK for some time
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 07:47 PM
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your loss.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 05:48 PM
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i have lurked FDS quite a bit and e.g. biphobia is rampant there. i just had a very good thread about women's biphobia towards bi men in /r/MensLib: https://www.reddit.com/r/MensLib/comments/ot5caz/what_is_your_view_on_womens_biphobia_towards_bi/ it's also annoying how so many women in FDS think being interested in BDSM is a red flag. how is it a red flag that i want women to fuck me in the ass?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 05:13 PM
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yeah it's societal attitudes changing. it's a good thing either way, the less straight people the better.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 05:00 PM
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gay? no. i do believe though, that a lot of people are to some extent bisexual. i know men who have had sex with other men and they still say they are 100% straight.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 04:55 PM
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How do you have a talk about being exclusive or not? ..by discussing it
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 04:43 PM
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but you can’t show me a high n dude who got his n from dating apps what the fuck lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 03:39 PM
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TRP makes me say: no, the women i know are nothing like that. FDS makes me say: no, as a man i'm nothing like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 03:23 PM
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what do you mean? i have felt gender dysphoria when i was younger, i will admit. i think it was mostly because the societal expectations for what men should be like were so ill-fitting for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 01:34 PM
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We are in 2021 but we still need to approach yeah true i usually need to send the first message, although i didn't with my current gf. pay for the first dates never done that. going dutch is the assumed default here in nordic countries. For me this is a very important date, the only one in months, for her this is her fifth in the month and she has a backup one message and click away. this is your problem and not hers isn't it? start the conversation and everything else i'm a good conversationali…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 12:22 PM
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i will readily admit i am, but i don't look like a "chad". i'm a borderline underweight pretty boy who has been called beautiful many times, not so much handsome.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 11:24 AM
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how come my gf sent me the first message when we matched in tinder? how come my gf was the one who said we should meet after we had exchanged maybe like 10-15 messages back and forth? she actually came from another city to visit me. how come i have always paid only my own expenses on dates? how come my gf wants more sex than me and is often the one who makes the first move?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 10:02 AM
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did you read the rest of my post? i receive a lot of emotional support from both my gf and my female friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 09:18 AM
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well i have also told it to my close female friends as my post states. they have also talked to me about their own horror stories with men. if i told the typical straight man my story they would probably victim blame me and ask why i didn't fight back.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 08:36 AM
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boomer has for a long time now been a mindset with certain connotations and a cultural trope instead of meaning only actual baby boomers
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 08:34 AM
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doing all the work of approaching, starting and progressing a conversation, paying for them, planning dates. it's funny how often this sub makes me think somebody must have invented a time machine and transported some people from like 1960's or something to post here.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 08:13 AM
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boomer humour about loveless marriages "wife bad" is the common trope
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 08:09 AM
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true. there is greater variance in men. there are both more male geniuses and those with <80 iq. women are much more reliable and more centered around the middle of the bell curve in multitude of things. the subpar men just look at the few exceptional men and try to bask in their glory.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 08:03 AM
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yes, i know finland is one of the most gender equal societies in the world. there is still a long way to go though mind you, patriarchy is alive and well here too. i'd say we are less bad than other countries, not good.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 07:45 AM
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i'm emotionally available and we are the "bedrock foundation" to each other. i support my gf and she supports me.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 07:38 AM
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uhhhh? i'm a male feminist and i'm nothing like the men described here by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 07:33 AM
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yeah reddit has a bad habit of users talking like america is the whole world.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 07:29 AM
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>women's circle maybe in like fucking 1960's lmao. how can this sub be so fucking delusional? i have never as much as bought a woman a drink. if i held the door for a woman they would probably find it cringe and patronizing.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 07:25 AM
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you mean like actually listening to me and offering me support? i sure as hell haven't told other men (except my gay best friend and his partner) that i was raped by another man when i was 17. i have told my gf and some close female friends though because they understand how prevalent sexual violence is.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 07:02 AM
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it's a good post that talks about the reality instead of weird fantasy world a lot of redpillers and other men in this sub do. i will admit i as a man have got more out of my relationships than the women i've dated. they've surprised me with gifts etc. while i've been better than majority of their other male partners already by simply actually making sure they reach orgasm during sex
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 06:58 AM
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theres too many things to list but in general the idea that we men are dick driven simpletons that only do things for pussy, that relationships are just a means to an end to have "pussy on the tap" i desire intimacy and emotional connection more than sex. without emotional connection sex is very unsatisfying for me and it's nearly impossible for me to cum. i've fucked around 70 women and with most of them i never had an orgasm because they were women i hooked up with for casual sex from clubs, p…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 05:06 AM
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why do i have a gf then tho
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 04:05 AM
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the men in this sub manage to generalize both women and men in an offensive manner. as a man this sub often makes me think "speak for yourself, i am nothing like you or the men you describe."
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 04:26 PM
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lmao i guess my sex partners have been my figment of imagination then since i'm 5'10"
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 09:14 PM
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well yeah duh obviously since i said i'm bi. but either way there is no such thing as average heterosexual man. you can be a really masculine man who likes cars and motorcycles, and you can still be into acting in theatre and singing, or writing poetry; just as an example.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 05:40 PM
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My experience with "female friends" is they'll expect emotional and physical labour for them for free from their male friends and give nothing back, doesn't feel much like women can have male friends and that women respect them. i vent about my problems and so on more to my female friends than they do to me and they are very supportive.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 03:24 PM
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i take male sensitivity very seriously about things where its warranted, this is not one. it's also kind of hard to feel sympathy for fellow men at times considering how much especially straight men have sucked in my life. i've always got along better with women. most of my close friends are either women or gay men. it was other boys who bullied me while girls sometimes even defended me. despite these days being a "chad" according to this place straight men often seem to be put-off by me. opposi…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 05:40 AM
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men on average are more romantic than women. i longed for my first partner for almost 3 years despite having a lot of casual sex during that time in an attempt to get over her.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 05:34 AM
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why is it just women? ofc your brain changes after your first relationship, mine certainly did.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 05:32 AM
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what's the point of this post? being slightly underweight is not that big of a deal. bmi is anyway a tool for assessing populations not individuals. it's very easy for bmi to not accurately represent someone's health. it's way more common btw that someone's bmi is in the 23-25 range so still normal but their fat % is too high and they should lose weight. very easy these days since a lot of people have very low muscle mass.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 02:31 PM
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maybe i have a wrong image but don't they easily make you have a weird posture where you kind of lean forward?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 11:34 AM
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i'm 28. see this post i made and my responses to /u/foreblue
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 07:12 AM
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my partners and female friends have humble bragged about me to their friends by for example talking about how their bf/friend (me) is a very talented writer who has been praised by already established and accomplished writers. talking about your bf's or gf's looks to your friends would be kinda weird tbh. of course you can show pics of them and be like "omg she/he looks so good", but talking about height? never heard any woman talk about their partner's height to me and i have a lot of female fr…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 06:59 AM
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hence the 5 foot lady still wanting a 6 foot guy. how common is this though? people can have ideals of what their dream partner should be like but i think vast majority of women in reality only require their man to be taller than them. i've fucked women taller than me as a 5'10" man. my ex was same height as me and one of her own ex's before me was shorter than her and she found him very hot. sadly that guy was an asshole.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 06:57 AM
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i'm perfectly healthy. this is a good moment to say btw that i fucking hate how people think it's more okay to police and comment people's bodies if it's about being skinny. my gf is also underweight by bmi but she doesn't look too skinny at all. she has nice breasts and ass and her ribcage doesn't stick out.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 06:14 AM
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i don't see being skinny as a thing i need to overcome. skinny "tortured artist" men are the favorite type for many women who are themselves artistic and creative. my gf is currently completing her master's degree in literature studies and she also writes prose and poetry like i do. she also paints. my ex who i was in the bar with is an animator and she is also was very interested in arts. very hot "hipster chick" with glasses.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 06:01 AM
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i hang out in very feminist leftist circles. i studied sociology in university and now i'm pursuing career as a writer, both prose and poetry. people in the art and culture scene tend to also be very socially progressive and leftist. i know what the women i know are like. i'm also very aware that "basic bitches" are often for example biphobic which definitely pisses me off as a bi man. i don't know why the men in this sub pursue the type of women that they then complain about.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 05:56 AM
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yeah my bmi is 18 and i dare to say i know how to dress myself. the funny thing is that a lot of men in this sub seem to think men like me should have problems getting laid while in reality my n count is around 70 and i have a gf currently. to my experience sensitive skinny beautiful men like me who are artistic are very popular with women. i'm a writer/poet and i also do photography. i have very similar "look" and style to miki liukkonen who is a famous finnish writer and poet: fig. 1 fig. 2 fi…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 05:51 AM
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i have pretty average beard growth. i shave every day though just like i shave all my body hair including hands and feet. i want to look like a beautiful skinny model boy, not handsome. i have a good jawline and high cheekbones so i nail that look pretty well. i've been called beautiful by both men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 05:38 AM
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yeah this sub is weird as hell. the men here are more misandrist than many radical feminists and they don't even realise it when they say their shit about what men are like. i'm not a dick driven simpleton, my gf for example wants sex more than me. this sub makes me as a man so often think "uhh, i'm nothing like that" and also of course "uhh, the women i know are nothing like that".
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 05:34 AM
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I'm not going to bother finding the study, but I remember reading a study that most women refuse to date bi men if they know he's been with another man, and that's after a good generation of normalizing homosexual behavior. there's still definitely a lot of biphobia among straight women. that is one of the few grievances i have about women as a bi man. i'm still a staunch feminist though and i have still had a lot of sexual success and have a gf currently. my gf is very progressive and for examp…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 05:28 AM
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Especially when some men prefer none very few do, a lot of men are just clueless and don't realise a woman is wearing makeup if she has a light natural style of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 05:25 AM
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i like eyeliner on women. they won't know until post coitus. Then you ditch them and you never speak again. Problem solved. sounds healthy. casual sex is not that big of a deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 05:24 AM
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IT'S THE SHOAH ALL OVER AGAIN!!! OY VEY! oh look it's neo nazi memes. some of you people spend way too much time online in wrong circles when you start speaking like people in /pol/ even in contexts that have nothing to do with jews. push up bras are already considered cringe if they are "too pushy". high heels and makeup can be done both in a stylistic and tacky fashion wearing shoes with lifts simply put looks awkward. i imagine it would also feel weird to walk in shoes with like 2 inch soles …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 05:22 AM
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height extenders look really fucking awkward. like are you talking about shoes with like 2 inch soles? it'd probably also feel awkward to walk in them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 05:20 AM
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shoes with lifts look way more awkward than well applied makeup. all of the things you listed can be done in a way that can look both good and bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 05:19 AM
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yeah i'm 5'10 and i've had no problems attracting women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 05:18 AM
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Being 25 cm taller than her is the sweetspot for women way too big of a height difference for most. i'd say most women want their man to be a few inches taller. my current gf is 170 cm and i'm 178 cm so that's a height difference of 3 inches.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 05:16 AM
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the preferred height for men be a little bit taller than the woman in question, that's enough for vast majority. needing to be 6' or 180 cm in metric (i know they are not the same height but they share same cultural connotations) is a meme and something people who spend way too much online claim women demand.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 05:15 AM
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sounds exceptionally weird
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 06:52 PM
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You now have to earn a high income, have an IG full of action shots, be over 6-foot and look like you've been carved out of marble just to be ghosted by a 5, with a sexual history that reads like roll call at San Quentin, who has professional athletes in her DMs what on earth is this shit?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 04:47 PM
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i didn't want her to tell me anything, she was just venting about her past experiences after having good sex with me. i also don't see me being good at sex as me being some sort of a fucking sex god. do you know what has made me "good at sex"? open direct communication, asking my sexual partners what they want. me being "good at sex" is more about asking my sexual partners what they want and obeying their wishes, not me being some sort of a fucking sex guru.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 06:48 AM
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as i said in the post you replied to, marriage is in general an outdated concept. prenups also exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 07:09 PM
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it's true that conscription is probably our most outrageous violation of otherwise very gender equal society. it's very easy to skip though, i personally got an exemption just by saying the idea of military service makes me anxious and i wouldn't fare well there. only like 60-70% of young men here these days complete military service. that guy with the most upvoted comment in the thread you linked explains my views well. being one of the most gender equal societies doesn't mean we are, we are ju…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 05:58 PM
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5'10", i'm very happy with my height. it's very convenient. a lot of cheap mass produced clothes in size S or XS look like they are tailored for me off the rack since they are designed for the average man. i've never had my height in my tinder bio btw, that would make me seem boorish tbh. it's enough to be taller than most women, don't need to be tall. i've fucked women taller than me though. my most recent ex was same height as me, taller if she wore heels. and yeah my parents are upper middle …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 05:53 PM
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who cares how easy it is? doesn't change a thing. please come out of Snowflake land. my views are not snowflake views here in finland especially among young adults that have a university degree. we are one of the most gender equal and socially progressive countries in the world for a reason. my own mother has identified as a feminist since the 80's.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 05:38 PM
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i agree! a lot of men here seem to think though that a man like me should be an incel while in reality i've had sex with around 70 women and they've all been attractive to my eyes atleast. i have a gf who sometimes loans me her clothes and applies make-up on me when we go out. supposedly she is an unicorn.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 04:53 PM
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anecdotes are worth more here than people generalizing entire genders based on a hunch. /u/FreierSteinkopf said that only HVM benefit from current dating scene, and i offered my personal experience that i benefit from it despite not probably fitting the criteria of a HVM. i'm also an aspiring artist/writer, i don't have that much money. my parents are upper middle class though but they only help financially as needed. so even as a poor struggling artist i still manage to attract women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 04:24 PM
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don't agree with being kinky or liking rough sex being necessarily caused by trauma but otherwise agree. i have a spanking fetish, both giving and taking it (like proper spanking with implements, not just light smacks), and i have not once in my life been physically disciplined by anyone when i was a child.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 04:23 PM
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i really don't see the benefit of at-fault divorce. if people want to divorce let them. why isn't it enough of a reason to just say "i don't love this person anymore"? people change as do their emotions. are you going to make them prove they don't love their partner anymore? marriage is in general an outdated concept. my parents are married just because of the advantages it has due to laws/social policy. they never had a wedding or anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 04:18 PM
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whats the point of needing to provide a reason? people don't divorce just for fun. even if they want cash and prizes they can just lie their partner cheated.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 03:59 PM
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good post. i'm a high n count man and i will readily admit i had so much casual sex when i was younger because i was insecure and wanted the validation and ego boost. i didn't do it for sexual release, i rarely even came. i need emotional connection for sex to feel satisfying for non-superficial reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 03:48 PM
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The current dating scenes doesn't benefit anyone except high value men. that's very flattering but i don't think i would consider myself one. many people here would probably think that i'm a soyboy simp since i'm a very staunch male feminist and i'm very skinny with looks that get complimented as beautiful, not handsome. i've still had hundreds of tinder matches (probably over a thousand in total, i've used tinder since summer of 2015 IIRC) and also hooked up from clubs and parties.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 03:45 PM
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Remove no-fault divorce. If you made vows (till death do you apart), you are accountable to it. do you really want to be in a marriage where your partner wants out but can't?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 03:43 PM
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this sub in general pisses me off in how so many talk like america is the whole world. americans seem to have that problem in general. people talk about paying for dates like it's a default. my typical date is going to some nice bar where me and my date pay our own drinks. after the date is over, i usually ask them if they would like to see more and if i have felt sexual tension i might already at that point ask if they would like to come to my place or me to her place. this has often been the c…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 01:25 PM
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Ask them to fuck your friends. Watch them turn tradcon in a second. what does this have to do with anything? why would they need to fuck people they are not attracted to to prove a point? Women don't use toys. They just have them for show to say: "haha I don't need a man!!1one" you are super fucking weird. then again what can somebody expect from /r/redpillwomen, it's like internalized misogyny goldmine. Being a single woman with toys is like being a grown man with a body pillow. It says "no man…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 12:49 PM
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what the fuck :D you are weird as hell. i know my female friends would be mad as fuck if they read this shit you spew. what about anti-feminist women who still use toys? lmao, "feminist statement"...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 12:21 PM
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there's a good sub for that, it's called /r/MensLib complaining about women in misogynistic fashion and arguing with them is not a good way to vent. i have complained about the biphobia some straight women exhibit. i can complain about my grievances with women without coming across as some bitter redpiller or mgtow chump.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 11:21 AM
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you speak only for your own cultural context. going dutch is the norm here in nordic countries. i have never paid my date's expenses. everyone pays their own stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 11:10 AM
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i don't really understand what you are saying. i'm a bisexual male feminist and i generally take the women's side here because it much better lines up with reality. the funniest thing is that it's the men in this sub who often say shit about what men are like that i see as very misandrist. like no, i am nothing like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 11:07 AM
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atleast you're honest about it
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 11:06 AM
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1/360 is not that high chance. also down syndrome can be detected in the womb and then you just abort them. taking a still very small risk of developmental disorders is a worthy trade-off considering all the perks of starting a family later in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 11:03 AM
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Women don't have sexual needs, first of all. what the fuck lmao. how come many of my female partners have wanted sex more than me and often initiated it? i'm sure my ex had all those toys to pleasure herself (and occasionally me) because she didn't have sexual needs.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 11:02 AM
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okay, more being snarky because you have no arguments it is. good day.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 10:54 AM
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i do, philosophy was one of my minors in university. i have master's degree in sociology. try to put up an argument instead of being snarky.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 10:50 AM
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maybe you should put up an argument why the OKC study can be extrapolated to apply to all men in real life. could it be just because it confirms your own pre-existing biases?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 10:46 AM
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i know the okc study, it doesn't really prove shit. men on OKC are not representative of the whole male population in real life. on top of that, most straight men are awful at taking good photos of themselves. i say straight men because as a bi man i have swiped gay/bi guys in tinder and they seem to understand much better how to make a good profile. i have used my female friends' tinder together sometimes as a game while drinking, like discussing with each profile should they swipe right or lef…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 10:35 AM
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maybe she just wants to have fun? what the fuck does respecting your body mean? you can have sex simply for pleasure. how is she getting played if she has no interest in romantic relationship with the men she is fucking?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 10:30 AM
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true, they had known for many years before i was born. however, it's not really that unrealistic to get to know somebody to the point you want to start a family in like 3-4 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 10:22 AM
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OP's looks don't matter for the point the post makes.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 10:02 AM
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why not? it's perfectly fine to start a family in your 30's. my mother was 32 and my father 35 when i was born, i'm an only child. usually people in their 30's are more financially stable and starting to have careers which makes planning for future easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 09:59 AM
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nothing stops the man leaving her when she becomes old. it's not like you secure a man for life if you pair up in your 20's.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 09:58 AM
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what's the point in being so antagonizing?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 09:57 AM
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If women with subpar genes manage to mate with men who have good genes, then aren't the offspring still disadvantaged because of their mother's genes? well, the result is probably better than if she had mated with a man who has subpar genes. the good genes can offset the bad ones somewhat. you can look at examples of some rich ugly men who have a hot wife, their offspring can have model looks too or they might end up ugly. it depends.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 09:55 AM
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would you really want a partner who is only with you for financial stability? i atleast want to be loved.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 09:34 AM
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There are very few women (on dating apps) complaining that they aren’t happy with their sex lives. Correct? not at all, generally speaking most women are unsatisfied with casual sex. my current gf said that all the previous men she fucked from tinder were awful at sex and didn't understand at all how to pleasure her. honestly most of them didn't even try, they only engaged in PIV sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 09:31 AM
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well you are immature if you care about a woman's n count. i don't give a shit how many past partners my female partners have had. i like to fuck too, who am i to shame them as a high n count man? even if i wasn't, they are still free to have fun. in this case what's in the past is not relevant for the present.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 09:28 AM
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i hope that the men who debate women here are just going through a phase. it would be really sad if someone stayed here for years going through the same grievances again and again.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 09:27 AM
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forcing men to adhere to all the beneficial (for women) parts of traditional old-school gender roles of provision, protection, being a gentleman, chivalry, yardwork, being emotionally strong complete straw(wo)man. none of my female partners have expected these things. my current gf certainly doesn't. not sure what you mean by being a gentleman and chivalry. yardwork? lmao i've never even had a yard and probably never will. i live in an apartment in a city like most people.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 10:59 AM
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the problem is with you if women are not having enthusiastic sex with you. my current gf and ex's have definitely given me fuck me eyes and initiated sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 07:11 AM
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I think you're not a man and don't understand how essential violence and competition are to the male identity. they are not. i have zero desire for those and my male friends don't either. then again i find vast majority of straight men unbearable, almost all my male friends are gay. it's probably just the socialization of heterosexual men that makes them so annoying.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 06:53 AM
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i'm actually cackling how your post is an endorsement for toxic masculinity. outlets for competition, danger, struggle and violence? how come i as a man have never felt need for any of these. i swear the men in this sub often have way more misandrist views of what men are like than even radical feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 06:50 AM
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But for my natural needs I prefer something without unnecessary complexity yeah that's called masturbation. sex without emotional connection is often worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 06:46 AM
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maybe you should eat your ego and pride and accept that you are being settled for. we can't all be a prize.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 05:06 PM
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why would i not keep my options open until i have the discussion with whoever seems most potential that "okay, lets be exclusive". if i'm casually seeing some woman i don't expect her to not be fucking other dudes either. i also keep fucking other women until the exclusivity discussion has been had. i'm not american btw. besides, open relationships and being poly are just as valid as your monogamy
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 07:29 AM
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see my comment to him
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 01:41 PM
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a lot of gay men mostly engage in blowjobs and handjobs
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 01:41 PM
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seeing hookers and prostitutes is not casual sex your paying for it what has that got to do with anything? i've never paid for sex. women have bought me more stuff (drinks, drugs, other stuff) than i have for them. my n count is around 70 with women, around 20 for men (i'm bi)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 02:40 AM
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i've had so much casual sex as a man that it has definitely lost its appeal. for last 3 years or so i've been more pursuing an LTR. i hope my relationship with my current gf will last.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 01:46 AM
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yeah that shit is dumb, i swipe right on like maybe 15% of women on tinder if even that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 01:37 AM
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yeah i've never had an expensive date like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 09:05 PM
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i do empathize with the fact that women have to vet for men more already because women are weaker physically. an average man can easily overpower and subdue an average woman. if by social vulnerabilities you mean slutshaming that's not really a thing here anymore atleast among young people, but then again i know finland is one of the most gender equal societies in the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 06:17 PM
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obesity doesn't fuck with sex hormone levels the same way on women. on the contrary, overweight girls often hit puberty earlier than their skinny peers. men are more accepting of a wider variety of body types and physical attractiveness levels yeah, for using those women as living fleshlights. that's not very rewarding. i have been "pump and dumped" by women as a man and it feels pretty shit when after a night together they just ignore you when you try to ask them if they would want to see you a…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 05:50 PM
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that's because they put pussy on a pedestal. i haven't for years, i had a lot of casual sex when i was younger and it just left me feeling empty and disillusioned. nowadays i care more about feeling legitimate connection to somebody than getting to fuck. the amount of different women i fucked in summer of 2017 alone.. jesus. and it didn't make me feel good. the validation and ego boost from each one was very fleeting.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 05:26 PM
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a lot of women are getting very disillusioned with tinder these days though. it's not very rewarding to get pump-n-dumped by fuckboys. then again incels prize virginity/low n count so they of course wouldn't be satisfied with dating a woman who has had her fair share of fuckboys and is tired of "riding the cock carousel" as they put it. that's on them though, i don't give a fuck how many men the women i date have fucked. more is honestly better if i had to choose, i'd feel awkward being with a v…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 04:59 PM
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there are a lot of methods available for women to prevent pregnancy besides just the pill. men can use condoms if STD's are your worry. if you end up pregnant you actually have agency over it thanks to abortion. if i happened to accidentally make someone pregnant i have zero control over the situation. of course being against abortion is thankfully incredibly niche here in finland so the idea that some woman would want to keep the baby is miniscule, especially the type of women i fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 04:07 PM
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that's true. even the artists i know who are not renowned still are popular with women. i am not renowned (yet! 😄) and women are still intrigued when i tell them what i do and often have expressed interest to read stuff i've written.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 04:03 PM
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seeing the world as just transactions is a very cold approach to it though. sure, me giving my gf oral sex can be seen as a reward for her being a good gf, but i don't see why i would want to see it that way. i do it because i find it hot and i enjoy making her feel good. this world is already so poisoned by capitalism and seeing things as values, markets and transactions, why must we extend it to social relations?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 03:59 PM
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if you are going on dates with somebody it should be obvious it's not a platonic relationship even if you haven't fucked yet. it's also a rule that you can fuck fast with quick lays that don't matter, and that you behave differently when pursuing a potential LTR.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 03:50 PM
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if i act in a prosocial way towards somebody how is it a reward or a deterrent? if i donate money to a local homeless shelter what am i rewarding? especially if i don't tell a single soul about my donation and keep it to myself?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 03:45 PM
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that's true, i am saying all these things play a part. it's not one specific thing causing it but a lot of different factors. the incel subculture for example is incredibly toxic way to think in how it discourages any attempts to escape inceldom. it's a very crabs in the bucket mentality and also defeatist. they want to think that it's all about their genes because in a weird way it's comforting to take your own agency away. if your life sucks because of things out of your control then you don't…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 03:44 PM
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that's ridiculous, being a renowned artist raises man's SMV way more than e.g. being rich or tall. everybody knows rockstars can bang a new beautiful woman every day of the week if they want to and it's not about them having money. my own n count with women is around 70 and none of them have been unattractive. i also am not that dick driven so i only fuck people that turn me on.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 03:36 PM
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well me and my gf both write stuff like prose and poetry and we greatly enjoy reading each other's writings and giving proper critique on them, not just compliments. i have also had musician gf's and of course i have wanted to hear pieces and songs they had work-in-progress and i have given my thoughts on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 03:24 PM
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the rise of sexlessness in men is not because of those men strictly being too unattractive in looks. being overweight lowers testosterone. many men spend all their time online and don't know how to act naturally in a social setting when trying to attract somebody. they don't know how to act confident and flirty in a good way that doesn't make the woman feel umcomfortable even if they are not interested. thats why they resort to PUA advice and other shit that tries to sell the idea of human inter…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 03:16 PM
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i'm a skinny feminine pretty boy and a lot of women have found me attractive to the point of lusting after me. am i the cup of tea for some basic girl with live love laugh pillows? probably not. some artsy creative chick that writes poetry and paints? much more likely.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 03:10 PM
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you can put short videos in tinder nowadays
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 03:08 PM
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i would feel very insulted if my gf thought that giving me a blowjob is a reward for being a good boy and not something she does because she enjoys sucking dick and making me feel good.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 03:00 PM
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lets put it this way: sex should not be treated as a reward by either party. it should be an activity that both engage in because they truly want to fuck the other. thats why it always grosses me out when a woman asks something like: "what should i give my bf for his bday?" and then people answer some shit like a blowjob. like ughhh 😒
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 02:56 PM
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this assumes that having sex with somebody is automatically the same as treating somebody better than somebody she hasn't had sex with. sex is not a reward.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 02:41 PM
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it's really not if you stop putting so much importance on sex as the ultimate reward. there are girls who were a quick fuck for me that i didn't care about, then others i do care about. i don't see it as absurd for me to take things slow with the ones i do care about. i haven't done that, but i don't think it would be absurd if i did. do you know how i showed my current gf my affection that i care about her? i read her poetry with proper thought and gave her actual feedback, not just compliments…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 02:39 PM
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how about this, everyone just pays their own expenses which is already the norm here in nordic countries. paying for dates sounds like some 1960's shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 02:35 PM
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it's just once again men putting pussy on a pedestal. i am much more flattered if somebody shows genuine interest in my creative pursuits and for example asks to read my writings and poetry than simply having sex with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 02:34 PM
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there is not one correct way, i'm talking about how to act during sex with me. i'm a switch so i enjoy both being submissive and dominant depending on the mood. women who truly understand how to be dominant in bed are fairly rare, women who truly get off and enjoy doing it instead of doing it just to please me, the latter is a turn-off for me. i have to feel like the other person truly wants to dominate me, top men seem to be better at that on average.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 09:59 AM
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because sometimes you want something different for a change. and no i don't have sex with them right now while in a relationship. top men on average also understand better how to act during sex, women who understand how to be dominant are rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 09:30 AM
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how do you know? i never see height preference in tinder bios either. i know attractive women whose partner is same height as them or only slightly taller, definitely not 6'
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 02:20 AM
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i'm openly bi, i'm more into women than men though. i've never dated a man and i don't think i could, i just occasionally have casual sex with them. i have a gf right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 02:18 AM
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How many women demand 6’ never seen this in real life
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 01:38 AM
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Guys are just way easier to get along with than women on average because they aren’t as delusional and conceited. must be why all my close friends are women and gay men. straight men on average are incredibly off-putting
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 01:33 AM
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i've had multiple female partners that have wanted sex more than me. my current gf is constantly touching me and taking the initiative to have sex
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 01:30 AM
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i sometimes prefer masturbation to sex, they aren't the same urge really
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 01:09 AM
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what are you even trying to say 🤣🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 05:46 PM
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then just be single and focus on other pursuits?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 05:43 PM
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It may not be a need but it is an insatiable biological imperative. that must be why as a man i have in several relationships felt pressured to have sex more frequently than i'd like🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 05:41 PM
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what does it say about men that so many of them can't even pass the mark for bare minimum?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 06:32 PM
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i am not, i have a gf and my n count with women is around 70. i am bi though but i am much more attracted to women than men. my n count with men is only around 20 although it's super easy to get casual sex with other men. i just don't get along with typical straight men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 03:36 PM
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women are already on average better people than (straight) men. how much this is due to socialization or hormones i don't know. maybe testosterone itself makes men aggressive and competitive. there's a reason all my close friends are either women or gay men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 02:19 PM
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we’re presuming a controlled study with all things being equal reality does not work that way though. what's the point of pressing the question whether being 6'3" compared to 5'6" is advantageous? sure, what about it, of course it is. it still has no relevance for real lived life because people aren't "all other things equal" to each other, ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 11:00 AM
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i'm a skinny guy (slightly underweight) who is more beautiful than handsome and i've had a lot of success with women despite even doing shit like wearing make-up and crossdressing occasionally. there are women who are into pretty boys and are turned on by a cute guy wearing a skirt.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 10:57 AM
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how have i fucked around 70 women, most of them from tinder, as a 5'10" man? they haven't been unattractive either, i don't have to resort to fucking people that don't turn me on already with their looks alone. then again i'm not sure what you consider worthy of having sex with, maybe you only consider models good enough. maybe you are pornsick and have unrealistic standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 10:50 AM
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ideal is not reality. i'm 5'10" and i've had a lot of female sexual partners, many of them very conventionally attractive. there is a niche for skinny pretty boys that look good in a skirt, like me
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 08:01 PM
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definitely. there are women who find me gross and women who find me the hottest thing ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 07:59 PM
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why do we then still see so many young men who are losing their hair? by young i mean around 20-30 range
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 03:14 PM
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finasteride doesn't work for all. hair transplants are expensive.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 03:12 PM
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i mean that the selection happens subconsciously. and that you also attract certain type of women, just like you are attracted to certain type of woman. you might not even realize it yourself. pretty much all of my longer term female partners have been very leftist creative types working or studying in art & culture fields. all of them have been kinky and for example have liked anal play, both giving and receiving. most have identified as bi or pan. i have not consciously selected for this, but …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 01:29 PM
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i'm not necessarily saying that's not true it just bewilders me. i seriously just don't get 90% of other men. no wonder all my close male friends are gay, straight men are just so weird. when i was a child i got along better with girls than other boys and still i have a lot of close female friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 01:14 PM
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isn't crying, like outright sobbing and weeping, pretty emotional? hasn't seemed to bother any of my partners. one of my most cherished memories with my ex was when we were embracing each other in bed and outright ugly crying against each other's shoulder
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 01:11 PM
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But there is another dimension to it, namely that many women's sexual attraction seems takes a big hit whenever a guy opens up (about anything really). I've never been in a relationship where this wasn't the case. have you ever considered that there might be a reason why you end up in relationships with such women? why have all my female partners been very supportive and okay with me showing many qualities that are not considered masculine? maybe i also select such good women in some way while y…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 01:09 PM
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something as seemingly innocuous as making eye contact with your patient means something totally different to whether your patient is a man or a woman, the woman would think "oh, this is an intimate setting, and I feel safe!", yet the man is more likely to interpret that as a challenge or a threat to have somebody just eyeing you up and staring at you lmao what i'm a man and i get annoyed if people don't look me in the eye when they are talking to me or me to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 01:06 PM
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There are LOTS of women who LOVE to cuddle and comfort a "sadboi" type guy can confirm, when i cried in front of my current gf for the first time she ran to me to hug me and stroke my hair
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 01:02 PM
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if this was true i wouldn't have had the sexual success i've had and continue to have. i show my vulnerability and emotions but i also do it in an unashamed bold way. i weep and cry when there is a sad scene in a movie, i have told my female partners about my past of being bullied or how something makes me sad. i think the important difference is, when i'm not showing vulnerability and being "emotional" i am very assertive and confident. of course being "emotional" is bad if it means you are con…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 01:00 PM
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it's not a hard rule, 6 just sounds like a nice even number. in countries with metric system the same cut-off point is 180 cm. in reality most women only require the guy to be taller than they are. i also know women who have dated men shorter than them. i have had sex with women who are taller than me, i'm 178 cm/5'10"
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 09:33 PM
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If life can form in a soup, that should be reproducible under lab conditions. We've never done it do you understand how fucking long it took for this to happen? the chances for it happening are so infinitely small it's never going to be reproduced by humans although it did happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 07:05 PM
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yeah but it's pretty self-defeating to not fix your problems because your problems wouldn't matter so much if you were like really really good-looking
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 05:08 PM
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i actually agree with you, being bald is not that bad. some even prefer it. it's just a clear "your looks change significantly at certain age" factor
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 04:06 PM
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considering that hair loss is much more common for men than women, and that a large amount of men show some signs of hair loss by the time they are 30, if anything the wall hits men more than women. women don't have similar clear disadvantage in looks that hits them at certain age.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 02:01 PM
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their subs? i don't care about what sex workers on reddit say to each other. i'm talking about women i personally know. of course they might sometimes complain that some customer was a piece of shit but their general attitude doesn't seem to be that. it wasn't that long ago that one of them talked about how adorable it was that she took this 20-something guy's virginity and how she found his shyness cute and endearing
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 01:57 PM
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equality of opportunity is a mirage. we are products of our environment.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 08:56 AM
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that's dumb but then again america's tinder culture in general seems very different to my own (finland). paying for dates etc. is not normal here either.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 07:48 AM
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yeah i'm 5'10" and i consider this a very good and convenient height. i'm still taller than most women which is enough in terms of attraction. i don't need to be tall, just taller than the girl. i have also been with women taller than me though but i do acknowledge a lot of women have the "height doesn't matter as long as he is taller than me" requirement.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 07:46 AM
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i'm genuinely perfectly happy with my 5'10" height. it's very convenient because it's so average. for example, a lot of cheap clothes size S or XS (i'm very thin) look like they are tailored for me off the rack.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 07:44 AM
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his online profile height to 5’10” why does he mention height at all in his profile? i've never had my height in my tinder bio.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 07:40 AM
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i think being unattractive is a bigger problem than height tbh, i know short men who get laid on the regular and who have girlfriends.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 07:39 AM
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women have no issue with 50 shades grey ???? a lot of women/feminists have complained that 50 shades of grey is incredibly toxic and gives a very warped view of what bdsm is. again, women are not a monolith. neither are men. this sub also often talks about men in a way that makes me sigh and think "no, i am nothing like that, speak for yourself". The patriarchy doesn't exist. it most definitely does. it's just a name for the current system we live in. look at what percentage of political leaders…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 07:10 AM
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i don't know enough about sweden's politics to comment on that, but it probably has something to do with the state of sex work there. maybe a lot of them are victims of human trafficking? sweden has quite a significant immigrant population. the problem with sex work as it is is that you can't really know for sure if somebody doing it is coerced into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 07:06 AM
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me? i don't pay for sex. i get it for free. women have also bought me stuff (drinks etc.) more than i have to them. i do have some friends who are sex workers though and they don't seem to have that sort of attitude towards their customers. it's just a side hustle for them at the same time as they study in university.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 07:00 AM
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johns are shamed because of the current state of sex work. if going to a prostitute was like a massage appointment nobody would care. this is another example of how patriarchy hurts men too. paying for sex is shamed because our whole social super structure is largely based on sexual desirability.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 11:43 PM
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lmao most feminists want to normalize sex work stop creating imaginary enemies
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 11:13 PM
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hard to say, i've fucked a lot of women and i didn't find it satisfying. i did it because i was insecure and seeking ego boost/validation. casual sex without emotional connection proved to be very lacking for that. having good friends that care about me is more important for my happiness than getting my dick wet. i do have a girlfriend too though but yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 02:02 PM
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meh maybe if it's very recent but my sexcapades from years ago don't really mean anything to me at this current moment.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 01:52 PM
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why does having had sex matter lol. nothing changes in you after you've got your dick wet for the first time.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 01:01 PM
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While many of the womens comments saying that men cant tell if women are wearing make up are rising to the top. thats true tho. i've noticed many other men are completely oblivious if a woman has light natural style make up. i only started to notice after i started watching make up tutorials and also watching my female partners apply their own make up.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 01:02 AM
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whats the point of viewing attractiveness like that? maybe the guy with full head of hair of luscious locks has an ugly face and short stature? why focus on your own shortcomings? even though several dozens of women have called me beautiful and gorgeous i know how i could be even more attractive, i just don't focus my mind on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 05:13 AM
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i don't know such a person but i definitely know bald guys with no problems getting laid good for him tho! 🤗
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 03:49 AM
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feminine hands do you dislike my hands? i don't particularly care if you do because i have met so many women who love exceptionally beautiful and slender men like me. just curious lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 02:17 AM
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have you considered that "too much muscle" is relative?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 02:15 AM
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lol i know some 10/10 hotties that are head over heels about their bald boyfriends/husbands. however, as a man you need to kind of have a certain "look" to pull off being bald. it also requires an aesthetic skull shape which is of course genetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 02:09 AM
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paying for dates is not the norm everywhere. nobody does it here in finland. when i take women out on dates going dutch is the default and what everyone assumes. in general everyone paying their own expenses is what's assumed here unless stated otherwise. if you go to a restaurant with a group everyone pays their own food instead of someone "picking up the bill" for others.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 04:39 PM
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i've been pump & dumped by a woman and it left me very hurt and sad. i wrote in other post: i've been strung along by women as in used for sex. the woman in question never considered me a serious bf candidate. this just happened last summer to me and i was very hurt by it. when she finally got a bf she was like "oh i thought you had realised i never saw you as a potential partner, we just had good sex". we were casually seeing each other for like 3 months and then later on i learned she had at n…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 04:37 PM
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neither one. society is not going to be able to do shit about some men stringing women a long for sex by letting them hope that their fling could turn into a serious relationships. i've been strung along by women as in used for sex. the woman in question never considered me a serious bf candidate. this just happened last summer to me and i was very hurt by it. when she finally got a bf she was like "oh i thought you had realised i never saw you as a potential partner, we just had good sex".
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 04:34 PM
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if you think that social engineering can beat reptilian brain so easily, you are fooling yourself. it has. how we behave and think now is much more based on social constructions than how our ancestors lived 200 000 years ago in africa
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 02:04 AM
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/r/MensLib is the only good male centric community on reddit
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 03:44 PM
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feminists are not a monolith.. most feminists i know, including myself, are pro sex work
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 03:54 AM
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Crashing a bunch of bad bitches on game alone is extremely difficult even if you look good. how am i so succesful at it then as a hairless pretty boy that many would assume is gay?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 11:59 PM
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true, i see that as a good thing though. even here i don't get along that well with straight men, all my close friends are either women or gay men with one exception.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 01:17 PM
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I shave armpits and chest. Never ever got a comment that I might be gay. I will attract women who prefer shaven chest lol it's a bit different when you go outside in short shorts and your legs and thighs are baby smooth. everyone shaves their armpits, not doing it would be considered gross by most. i often wear women's denim shorts in the summer that only cover like 1/4 of my thighs. and i haven't got comments either but it's obvious some people might assume i'm gay since i'm a pretty twink in g…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 10:11 PM
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i said "maybe you are". and oh "darwinistic"? just what we needed, more evopsych bullshit in this sub. the point is we do things that may also be attractive to women not because it helps attract women. i have a very personal style in terms of what sort of clothes i wear that most definitely is not what would make me the most attractive to the average woman. it's what i like. and did you miss the example of me shaving my whole body although it might make some women think i'm gay? i don't care, it…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 07:37 PM
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i don't care about fashion to attract women, i care about it because i want to like what i see when i look in the mirror. i shave my whole body (including even fingers and toes) because i find body hair gross. one of my ex's liked body hair on men and wanted me to stop shaving. did i cave in to her request? fuck no, i care more about looking good to myself than others. i would've even saved time if i had stopped, i do it once a week and it takes roughly 40 mins. you seem to have a very poor view…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 03:45 PM
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i'm not from the US, i'm finnish. we are one of the most gender equal societies in the world. we are much more advanced in regards of there not being different norms and expectations for men and women. all this crap about men needing to be a provider and pay for stuff is soooo from alternate reality to me. do you have any idea how fringe that kind of absurd "gender theory" crap is in the real world i have multiple friends that are trans, non-binary and that sort of stuff. the US is much more stu…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 06:38 AM
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the best explanation i have so far is that vast majority of posters in this sub are from some conservative christian country (USA?). otherwise i can't understand how it's supposedly "normal" for a man to e.g. pay all expenses on a date. it doesn't matter who asked out whom, unless otherwise specified going dutch is the default.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 09:33 PM
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being passionate in itself won't make you good in bed. i am lucky that many of my female partners have explicitly told me for example how to finger them. if i am going too hard or too slow, should i make circles around their clit or more of an up 'n down motion etc. being "good in bed" is mostly about communication. it also works other way. i have very rarely reached orgasm in casual sex. the few women who have made me cum have just sort of intuitively understood how to handle me
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 09:11 PM
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good explanation
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 09:09 PM
-2

is this some /r/justbewhite shit? why can't incels stay out of here?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 09:05 PM
1

i don't think it's the fault of people designing OLD apps/sites that some people are too stupid to understand how they are being played. it's not exactly a secret
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 09:03 PM
1

OLD is only a scam if you are incredibly gullible and don't realise you are the product being sold
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 09:02 PM
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yeah. this sub is so detached from reality. i know so many men that do not fit the criteria of a "chad" that have had plenty of sexual success. subs like this are filled with people who just simply do not grasp the social world. then again that is a poor explanation too since i know male autists who have (had) girlfriends. i don't know what's wrong with the people here.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 08:57 PM
1

old myth that is based on the fact that porn traditionally has not appealed to women's tastes because it has been made for male gaze.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 08:54 PM
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god damn what a KO
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 08:53 PM
1

this is the funniest post i've seen in this sub in a while. it sounds like you are trying to make it a BAD thing that female gaze is not as objectifying as male gaze. 😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 08:50 PM
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good post. if the only thing you can provide to a relationship is being a financial provider, don't cry when women use you as one.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 08:42 PM
1

as we know divorce laws are the exact same across the globe why is this sub so US centric?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 08:41 PM
1

why do i even come to this sub, i'm so god damn tired of people larping 1960's. the idea of men vs women (which btw enforces gender binary) is so sigh inducing. i am much more like a lot of women than other men. it's 2021 and people here talk like it's normal for a man to pay for dates. jesus christ, no. the assumption is going dutch unless otherwise specified.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 08:37 PM
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nah you just think you do when someone says things that don't fit your worldview
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 07:28 AM
1

yes very much so, i wish i was more feminine than i already am
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 07:23 AM
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what's the deal with people in this sub telling someone else what they really think or feel as if they have better knowledge of a total stranger than they do themselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 01:10 AM
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am i really a bad boy when i'm a sensitive guy who is not afraid to show his emotions and cry? just because i'm good looking (in a beautiful pretty boy way, not "chad" way) and not afraid of not straying from gender norms, like painting my nails and wearing makeup?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 09:03 PM
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why did you ignore this part? and men don't love unconditionally either lmao. of course i also put conditions on women for deserving my love. so does every man. you are fooling yourself or a total simp if you don't
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 02:46 PM
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men who fit the skinny tortured artist type tend to have A LOT of success with women, especially if they are musicians. and they don't have to be some famous musicians with clout mind you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 02:45 PM
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lol i'm definitely not getting matches with some basic girls but i get all the artsy hipster chicks. it's funny how almost all my matches fit a certain pattern. kind of "woke", often stuff like bi/pan and or poly, study soft sciences or work in arts & culture then again i don't even swipe right on the basic girls but i know they wouldn't swipe right on me. they want more stereotypical "chad" guys, not skinny men like me who are more beautiful than handsome.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 02:11 PM
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stupid blackpill shit, of course love is not unconditional. those conditions though are more about being a nice caring person that enriches their partner's life. i've been loved by women when i was a poor university student and also a poor struggling artist (still am, working on that). my relationships have mostly ended because i fucked them up by acting like an asshole or doing something stupid. and men don't love unconditionally either lmao. of course i also put conditions on women for deservi…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 01:30 PM
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i meant "your partner" as a general you, not you specifically. could've as well said "one's partner"
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 12:08 PM
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yeah well it's not like these men with mental health issues only manage to score short flings, many are in steady long term relationships that have lasted years of course they don't go unmedicated and/or without therapy, it's each person's own responsibility to seek professional help for their health problems whether mental or physical. your partner is not supposed to be your therapist or doctor.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 11:01 AM
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Men can accept this but when you tell 1/3+ of men that they should not even expect sex and be sexually inactive for most of their lives then it's time to fuck off. i really don't think so. as it stands a lot of men put sex on a pedestal. but if it was readily and easily available by paying men would start to put more emphasis on the other things. and they would still feel bitter about the fact that some men get sex for free and love & companionship on top of that. fucking sex workers would soon …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 10:35 AM
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i bet a lot of these men would discover after fucking sex workers that it doesn't satisfy them long term. if you're an incel or in general someone with "low SMV" it's easy to think it's all about getting your dick wet. men aren't robots, we also want to be cared for and loved. often i think it's the men in this sub that have the most negative view of what men are like, and they don't even realise it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 09:55 AM
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if these things were true a skinny sensitive artist type like myself wouldn't have so much sexual success as i've had and still do.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 09:21 AM
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but 25 to 34 year olds? is it really that taxing on the body? i can understand that some guy in his 40's or 50's might have busted their body but men this young?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 09:15 AM
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but this is about 25- to 34-year-olds right? even if you have worked manual labour surely it has not taken such a toll on your body at that age yet that you need opiates?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 09:08 AM
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lol, so many of my female friends have bf's that have variety of different diagnoses ranging from ADHD, depression, anxiety disorder, panic attacks.. honestly these days it feels like you're an unicorn if you haven't had any mental health problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 09:06 AM
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i don't understand this stat, what pains do they have and where has it come from? surely they haven't busted their body at that age? i never have any pains, not headaches, nothing. or have they simply lied to doctors to get prescribed opiates? getting an opiate prescription here in finland atleast is VERY hard if you don't have good explanation how you have pain.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 09:01 AM
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Nearly half of prime age men who are not in the labor force take pain medication on any given day; and in nearly two-thirds of these cases, they take prescription pain medication.” i don't understand this stat, what pain do they have and where has it come from? surely they haven't busted their body at that age? i never have any pains, not headaches, nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 09:00 AM
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well shrooms are good, the problem is them abusing stuff like benzos and ADHD meds. benzos especially are fucking evil, the amount of zoomer rappers talking about popping xannies and shit is alarming.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 08:58 AM
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i really hope most men are not so dickbrained that fucking someone without emotional connection is enough to satisfy their need for intimacy and being loved. i have had a lot of casual sex as a man as just a route to get to sleep together with someone and cuddle post-coitus
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 08:55 AM
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are you fine with the current state of gender relations? what is expected of men and women? if you are not, you should be a feminist. how can you not follow?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 06:54 AM
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i did. if you have a problem with current state of things you should be a feminist
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 05:13 AM
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i also want to emphasise that i do not see myself as some sort of a player or a chad. i don't view what i do as "spinning plates" as redpillers would say. i keep my options open because you never really know how things will work out with someone. right now currently i am actually looking for a steady LTR, the days when i got sense of validation and ego boost from having a lot of casual sex with many different women are long gone. i was much more immature and also insecure back then. i treat thes…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 10:16 PM
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being a writer/poet is my main creative pursuit although i do also engage in other forms of art. i guess that's part of why i am very good at "saying the right things". i once showed my female friend my conversation on tinder and then whatsapp with one woman and how fast i got HER to ask if she could come see me tomorrow from ANOTHER CITY where from it takes around 2 hours by bus. my friend laughed and said that damn i have such a way with words. yea i know, i can be a bit braggadocious
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 10:02 PM
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i just edited my post a little btw in case you didn't notice, maybe re-read it a good opener is important but id say even more important are the next few messages back and forth if you receive a reply
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 09:52 PM
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you are a poor conversationalist then i guess. also i almost never have performed step 5, it's straight from text based messaging to arranging a date. i usually open the conversation by saying/asking something about one of her pictures, or something about her bio. i use the fact that i am a writer and an artist for step 4. i have already built the interest in my match that they want to read and or see/hear my art. i obviously can't really do that through tinder so then we exchange numbers or e.g…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 09:41 PM
1

I don’t think straight men like shit inserted up their ass then you have very outdated and outright wrong beliefs. straight men have a prostate too saying the bs that most straight men are closeted gays.. i'm not saying that. they are legitimately straight and also ashamed to admit they like buttstuff
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 07:04 PM
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The man has to be the provider has to? why are you not a feminist trying to dismantle the patriarchal notion that man should be the breadwinner is a relationship? that's the thing some men don't seem to get, feminism benefits men too. i have benefited from feminism, it has allowed me to not be a masculine man and adhere to old gender norms.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 06:31 PM
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which is? if a man slaves away at work because he cares more about money that's his own damn fault. he wouldn't need to. he doesn't have to make more money than his partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 06:20 PM
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men do more extra hours in work because they care more about money and career advancement typical women's jobs are more emotionally stressful and have worse impact on mental health. men work grueling physical labour more but when they come home they can relax and not feel the weight of the mental toll.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 06:15 PM
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yes this sub lives in an alternate reality. i once had a casual fling with this one very cute bi girl, not some pink haired sjw from conservative memes, and do you know who she dumped me for? a trans woman she fell madly in love with. and besides, plenty of women also like submissive men. women have wanted to peg me and spank and make me moan and squirm. i'm bi myself but i am much more attracted to women than men. i'm bisexual but strictly heteroromantic. i couldn't imagine actually dating a ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 05:19 PM
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yes and he is also dating an absolute 10 of a woman (giorgia soleri). so he is not even gay.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 03:52 PM
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how come i've had a gf who loaned me her skirts and painted my nails. i don't really have a high pitched voice though i have to admit. i do sound quite boyish though.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 02:50 PM
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yeah the person doing more work is usually women. they have the same work hours and on top of that they do more house chores. they also often end up having to be a therapist to their man because men don't talk about their feelings to their male friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 02:45 PM
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well isn't a man being feminine at the same time being androgynous? what is being a feminine man to you? an androgynous woman is also a woman who has masculine traits/features
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 02:08 PM
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how does that explain anything lol. i know from female friends that also gruff masculine men who outwardly try to act macho like their ass played with. it's of course a big secret for them and they'd probably be mortified if they knew that i know. liking pegging does not really have shit all to do with why i don't like most straight men. your flair has a typo in it btw
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 01:48 PM
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i could do that for the purpose of helping some lesbian couple to have a child, not to spread my genes. your talk about ancestors makes it sound like you feel peer pressure from dead people which is absolutely ridiculous. i don't even care what my own parents want me to be and they are atleast alive
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 02:22 AM
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i'm an only child, that's why i put the uncle in quote
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 02:10 AM
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nah, i'd rather be sort of a close cool "uncle" to some kid. all the best parts of parenthood without the bad ones. i don't care about my ancestors and i don't care if my genes end with me
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 01:59 AM
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it's definitely more of a myth these days because 1) less people feel the need to be in the closet 2) straight feminine men are not as scared to show it outwardly
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 01:48 AM
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read my post to the other user
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 01:47 AM
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read my post to the other user
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 01:47 AM
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If such a thing exists it doesn't exist, but it can sort of exist as a concept we decide for ourselves. there is no meaning or purpose for anything other than what each person personally believes
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 01:44 AM
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yes and i've had female partners who have loved anal play with me as the recipient and themselves asked me if they could do it
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 01:43 AM
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lol did you completely miss how all women on twitter went crazy for the singer of måneskin (the band that won eurovision) lusting after him? this is him i have pics of myself crossdressing and wearing makeup in my instagram and women have pursued me because of it
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 01:41 AM
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i'm a man and other men have made me feel alienated since i was a young boy. there is a reason all my close friends are either gay men or women. most men suck. the left alienates boys and men because men and boys themselves are alienating
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 12:15 AM
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You exist solely to reproduce and you can’t even do that? are you so young you haven't even taken philosophy 101 and heard of naturalistic fallacy/hume's guillotine? i don't need any sort of reason or purpose for my existance but if i did feel like having one it'd be one i decide for myself. maybe i exist to write poetry?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 12:14 AM
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(women swipe left on 95% of guys on tinder) the 5% they swipe right on are not the same for every woman. different women have very different tastes in men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 12:11 AM
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that's a good thing. reducing global human population is a positive for many reasons. the only downside is there maybe not being enough young people to take care of the bigger previous generations when they are old and sick. but technology can help with that like robot nurses or shit like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 12:10 AM
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why would she lie? i know her very well, we are close. she has in the past had some ONS's because she was approached in places like a bar or a club when she was drunk and she has said she got nothing out of them and that they left her feeling used and depressed. she bought a satisfyer a long time ago but never uses it because she was unable to make herself orgasm with it
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 11:55 PM
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women have no idea what been rejected feel like lol???????? how the fuck?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 11:05 PM
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when men get taken advantage of, they're blamed for it. i'm definitely blaming men if they do such stupid shit as paying for dates etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 11:04 PM
2

you never heard the word demisexual? many women are
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 10:58 PM
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complete bullshit. i have a female friend who doesn't even masturbate, doesn't seek casual sex, but when she has an established partner she turns to an almost nymphomaniac by her own words and wants to fuck multiple times a day.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 10:58 PM
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I proposed to my 2nd wife on our second date (we spent an entire long weekend in a hotel room so it was a long 2nd date). We got married four months later. Our first daughter was born one year after we met. this is fucking crazy you know that? what the fuck
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 10:53 PM
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you realize right how large percentage of women have been victims of sexual violence? how many women have had atleast one abusive partner?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 10:49 PM
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what have they been trying to get out of you? if you have bought them shit and paid everything on dates it's your own damn fault for larping 1960's, going dutch is the assumption and norm, it doesn't even need to be discussed before the date or during it. maybe this is a cultural difference though, i live in finland and we are one of the most gender equal societies in the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 10:44 PM
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the top 20 percent does not exist. women may find only 20 percent of men attractive but they do not share together consensus who these top 20 are. women have extremely varied tastes in what sort of men they like, much more than men have of women i have to say. i don't consider myself "top 20 percent" of men although i have dated very beautiful women who have bought ME things (i have never paid anything for a woman, like paying for dates and shit like that is so archaic) and taken the initiative …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 10:41 PM
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i'm borderline underweight and i understand that human beings are complex creatures and that things like "discipline" and "willpower" are mostly illusions. being skinny comes easy for people like me, i do not need to control myself. and it's not about me being blessed with "fast metabolism" or something, i know that kind of shit is a myth. i simply do not feel the hunger in same way as fat people. my hunger is sated by eating very little. i can easily even forget to eat during a day if i have a …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 12:35 PM
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apologies
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 11:05 AM
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most of the time i have not cum at all from casual sex, i've done it for the validation and ego boost, not sexual release
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 09:07 AM
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i don't understand most men at all. sex to me is more a vessel for feeling emotional connection, means to an end. thinking about my dearest moments with my ex, none of them included sex. washing her hair in the shower, bringing hot soup to her in bed when she was feeling sick.. those are the memories i cherish. i try to not hate other men as much as i do but subs like this definitely do not help it. how the fuck are rest of you so sex driven? how can you feel satisfaction from inserting your pen…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 02:07 AM
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my personal desires in life atleast have very little to do with my sex life. this whole sub and of course even worse TRP and incels are so detached from reality. my n count is most likely closer to 100 than 50 (i haven't kept count in ages, that'd be juvenile) and it has not given me any happiness. i'm not a stereotypical chad, i'm a skinny feminine pretty boy. women have called me beautiful many times, not so much handsome. my female partners have applied makeup on me and loaned me their skirts…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 01:47 AM
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why is obesity so special as an unattractive trait? because it's theoretically under each person's own control?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 01:04 AM
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Just wishing men would stop being horny is impossible and anti-human if the problem was horniness, masturbation and sex workers should fix the issue. they won't. men are inherently broken
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 01:01 AM
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(That usually means sex, a wife and children) as a man i feel sorry for men who desire such life as a route to happiness
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 12:28 AM
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why would society collapse because of a large amount of men not getting their dick wet? masturbation to porn that caters to your specific tastes is better than sex anyway most of the time. fucking someone is not that big of a deal anyway. i wish i were a closer friend to some of the women i've fucked instead of having had PIV sex with them
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 12:23 AM
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most women aren't. i've never been asked my height in tinder and i don't have it in my bio.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 01:45 PM
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both TRP and PUA come across as advice for men on the spectrum that don't instinctively understand obvious shit regarding the social world
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/21 10:31 PM
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I think it's 100% normal and fine to be a feminine man. Gender roles are arbitrary and many things that you might be thinking of as feminine were normal and/or manly in other times and places. i don't need your affirmation or validation about that. i just told it in the context that i behave much more like women in many things, like how i exact my abuse assuming i'm abusive I think therapists are modelled off of women maybe. There are many types of men it's not recommended for which I still don'…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 12:40 AM
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if i dare to call myself abusive, i am very much abusive in such patterns and methods that are more typical for women. it's not a surprise. i'm a very feminine man who has felt gender dysphoria and seriously considered if he could be a trans woman therapists can do more harm than good especially for personality disorders. i personally think these days (my best friend has said the same) that i most closely fit the criteria of histrionic personality disorder and i'm not sure if my therapy possibly…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 12:29 AM
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i don't talk about people simply in terms of whether there is a chance they would somehow get to know what i've said. i wouldn't be an asshole misogynistic piece of shit about my female friends even if i only wrote it in my own personal diary. it is not just about them. it is also about what i am.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 12:24 AM
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completely foreign to me. the idea that a woman would be upset that i don't pay their shit is laughable to me. maybe it's because i'm finnish and we are one of the most gender equal societies in the world. our current government is lead by young female ministers.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 12:10 AM
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Why Does He Do That i have read that. it was very valuable and introspective for me because it made me realize many of my own abusive tendencies and thought patterns. i have been called a narcissist by some of my exes and also other people. i may have those traits, but i don't think i'm an actual narcissist. i genuinely strive to be a better person.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 12:07 AM
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i already know from studying psychology and from doing some of these same big 5 tests that i score extremely high on openness to experience. i am a very creative artistic type that hates routines and doesn't mind disorder or mess. anyway, i did the test you linked. here are the results honestly i don't know what kind of shy shut-ins many people are if i score 98th percentile in extroversion
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 12:03 AM
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it depends completely on how the discussion is presented. i have talked to my male friends about a girl i've fucked along the lines of "damn she was so hot, you could really tell she knew what she was doing". when it gets gross is when the men tell about their sex stuff in an objectifying way and demean women. put it like this: if the woman you talk about in "locker room" heard the conversation you had about her, would she be flattered or offended? easy simple rule
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 11:44 PM
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it is possible that some of the people that defend abusers are just ignorant and too underveloped in terms of empathy and cognition to be able to understand the situation from the victim's perspective but many of them have their own abusive tendencies
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 11:39 PM
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cities? lmao this is almost /r/ShitAmericansSay material "everybody in the internet is a young white american man unless stated otherwise" the whole question is stupid, dating "market" doesn't exist. it makes it sound like the market is an indepedendent entity when in reality it is fully relative to what you are yourself there are probably better and worse cities in finland for me to find company but it its not that much about the cities but what i am in relation to the social scenes in them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 11:28 PM
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only abusers defend abusers. this applies to both men and women. i know personally both men and women who have been abused by their partners. sadly, it is more often men who try to put the blame on the victim for "choosing" an abuser, as if they had known it from the start. it's generally part of the whole "wahh why do women prefer asshole bad boys instead of a nice guys like me" shtick. i just recently wrote some posts about this in another thread: i have female friends who have had abusive par…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 11:20 PM
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i know this is a Q4W but as a man i can tell that that what is in general sense considered "locker room talk" amongst men is fucking gross and it has made me think less of the men who i have been with in the situation where they have engaged in it. mind you, i also feel it's wildly inappropriate when women gossip between each other about things like their sex partner's penis size or how good/bad they are in bed etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 11:14 PM
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yes you can replace "autist" with "not normal" if you want. either way the point applies. it's like atleast half the people in this sub just don't "get" how relationships work on an intuitive level and because of that they feel the need to create stupid theories and flowcharts. a lot of the time the shit discussed in this sub just makes me groan because people try to make it so formal when you just know automatically how it works edit: you mean the aspect of "spending money on a girl" in terms o…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 11:04 PM
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oh look it's again of those threads where spending money on a person is somehow normal. why the fuck does everyone in this sub view social relations as transactional? is everyone here an autist trying to make sense of the social world like it's an engineering schematic?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 10:59 PM
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i didn't. that's also why i feel sex with most of them was very meaningless and empty. majority of the time i didn't even reach orgasm. i did it mostly for the sense of validation of being found desirable by someone. generally the pattern was "have a relationship with someone --> breakup --> have a lot of casual sex to try to get over the emotional turmoil --> repeat". that's how it goes for a lot of women too. turns out women and men are both just human beings with same emotions and behavioural…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 06:04 PM
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yea well i can't relate to that at all. honestly that attitude sounds so gross. no wonder i find a lot of men so distasteful. when i was a little kid i preferred more to play princess with girls than with cars and i stole my mother's makeup to to try it on myself. sex to me is about emotional bond and feeling connection to another person. just using another person's body to get my own rocks off for "convenience" is so disgusting as an idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 07:15 AM
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i have no problem with prostitution. i support sex work. i just don't personally see the appeal of paying to fuck somebody. it lacks all the qualities that makes sex better than masturbation. and because of that i find it hard to believe that men that can't get sex normally would be satisfied with using sex workers long term and would stop complaining how women won't fuck them from their own accord for free.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 06:43 AM
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i have never felt like some woman has deceived or manipulated me in regards of what they look like after the point where i have seen them in flesh for the first time
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 05:39 AM
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i am a man. i am not a stereotypical chad. i am a very feminine skinny sexually submissive bisexual pretty boy. i have been called beautiful more times than i can count, not so much handsome. i have never felt that i am in some way paying for sex. my n count of women is probably somewhere around 50-70, don't know don't count that shit. all the women i have bothered to date have been very beautiful. having sex with someone is not a big deal and not something that means much. i have had sex with m…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 05:30 AM
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it's understandable how a vulnerable person can be manipulated psychologically by an abusive person. it's not as understandable that somebody can be deceived by shit that is obvious to anyone that is not a stereotypical dudebro that has no clue about anything than his own male interests. and even if we call it deception deceiving somebody what you really look like is not as severe as deceiving what you are like as a person. the capability for deception in regards of looks is also much less than …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 05:24 AM
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Just not cuddling enough isnt abuse. how do you even dare to reduce what i just told you of my friend's experience to that?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 05:20 AM
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this ""deception"" only works because so many men are so god damn oblivious and ignorant about the sort of things you listed. it's funny how many men look at a pic of a woman with nude/light makeup and say that's the sort of woman they like, one that doesn't use makeup. so many men don't recognise makeup unless it's almost drag queen esque. i compliment my female friends makeup sometimes, for example that their eyeshadow matches nicely with their nails and i bet many men wouldn't even realise th…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 05:16 AM
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yes it very much is. abusers are cunning and know they are abusive even if they do not admit it. one of my close female friends had an abusive ex that at the start was incredibly sweet. he would randomly send her messages at night like "was just randomly thinking about how cute you are and how much i would love to hug you right now 💗💗" and so on. during sex he was super considerate and put the priority on satisfying her. she was insecure and didn't have much relationship experience. of course th…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 05:09 AM
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i have female friends who have had abusive partners. those partners pretended to be something they are not until they had secured the relationship and then revealed their true colours. that's how they managed to land a relationship. abusive partners often employ same kind of tactics at the start as cults do in recruiting new members. they target vulnerable people and love bomb them at the start and make them feel special, like finally someone appreciates them. there is no same kind of deception …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 04:57 AM
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I would have few issues with the current dating market of today if it allowed for men to engage in regulated and legal prostitution if we had that "low SMV" men would still be bitter that they have to pay for something other men get for free. it's not about the physical act of having sex, atleast i hope. if it really is just about that it drops the view i have of other men even lower than it already it is. i certainly atleast also value having emotional connection to someone. back when i still c…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 04:50 AM
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but the thing is more masculine facial features in men are correlated with more sexual partners, therefore it must be more desirable for women. there is more to life than having a lot of casual sex. i'd estimate my n count with women is somewhere between 60-70 (i stopped counting a long time ago) and i don't see it as any sort of accomplishment or a cool thing. having a stable LTR with a person that actually cares about you is much more validating and satisfying. sex with such person is also 10 …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 01:10 AM
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have you considered that people, including women, are individuals? i had a short fling with a 157 cm woman who i am still good friends with and she said i was on the cusp on being too tall for her taste although i'm "only" 178 cm (i'm personally happy with my own height, it's very convenient for many reasons). her current bf is around 173 cm so maybe 2 inches shorter than me if you need burger units. one time we discussed the preferred height of a partner in general sense and she considered 180 …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 12:39 AM
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this shit is so stupid it's so clear that it values very certain type of features just because incels/blackpillers believe there is such thing as objective attractiveness. if i had to choose one man from that whole chart that i wish i looked like i'd take oussama guessoum (he is rated as 9) but even he is not really anywhere close to the men i am actually envious of in terms of looks. avan jogia from tier 6.5 is much more attractive than many of the men from upper tiers
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 12:33 AM
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his face looks best in the 1/3 before picture, probably just due to different hair and expression. don't really find him attractive in the after pictures either because i hate beards, would be nice to see him clean-shaven.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 12:22 AM
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that's funny because to me krasinski is probably one of the best examples of an "average guy" here, even now later on when he has taken more action hero oriented roles. he is just very "not hot, not ugly, just is". i have very specific ideal of attractiveness though for men and and i know it's not the most conventional. i also know that there are many beautiful women out there that share the same preference because i match it myself and i have dated/hooked up with them and they have praised me h…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 12:16 AM
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There are two categories of women, "sexy" and "petite". She's indeed a 10 in the latter no she is not. i know what you mean by cute petite women and watson is not anywhere near 10 in that appeal either.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 12:10 AM
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https://incels.wiki/images/a/a5/Scale.jpg all these tier lists are absolutely ridiculous, which of course is not a surprise since attractiveness contrary to the belief of autistic blackpillers is not 100% objective and people have their own preferences. i know this thread is about what average man looks like but it's hard to take a list like that seriously when emma watson is used as an example of a 10 woman. i've dated/fucked many women much more attractive than her and i've never considered th…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 12:07 AM
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these lists are so fucking ridiculous, so many men ranked in same tier that are wildly different in attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 12:02 AM
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i see what you mean. do you not have any interests that also have female appeal? get good at those and try to network from there
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 08:03 PM
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well yeah but surely you know what the ways to attain it are? there is no specific venue, there are many ways. i have relatively high status among my peers of "artsy hipsters" because i'm a good writer and i look the part of a young aspiring writer. being good and succesful at something is generally enough to gain status among the right people. in my social circles being rich probably won't net you much status while being a published poet will. geez, even some nerdy pro gamers attract nerdy game…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 03:54 PM
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How am I even supposed to get status are you serious?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 03:35 PM
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lmfao as a man i can tell it's us who fear commitment and want to have wild bachelor years before maybe at some point settling down a bit. then after settling down we are resentful of all the fun we are missing out on
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 11:24 AM
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all the genuinely decent guys i know are getting laid
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/21 04:02 PM
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Realize that the majority of boys at either aren’t having a consistent amount of sex. i just don't think men outside of spaces like this care about things like this.. i don't really care about sex or "consistent sex". i care about having a meaningful emotional connection to someone. as a man who has fucked around ~60 women i consider putting value in getting laid very juvenile. this sub and some redpill communities make me feel much more alienated about being a man than any feminists. i've alway…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/21 03:08 AM
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on the other hand by the time men are over 30 many of them are already more established in terms of career and general life conditions and mature so they succesfully settle down with some woman for a long term relationship where they will eventually become a dad. they've had their party years and chasing new pussy has stopped being exciting or an ego boost.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/21 04:48 PM
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Would you say that your submissive/feminine qualities, fulfill certain psychological/sexual needs in women, that they don't get from more masculine guys? maybe? vast majority of women i have had sex with are LGBT and kinky so they probably in general don't have same kind of preferences for a partner as your typical normie woman. i disagree with the whole AWALT spiel VERY hard, i have known so many women that don't fit the typical qualities ascribed to it. i also don't relate at all to the typica…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 09:31 PM
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if you’re not larping, then you are ppd’s very own “chad;” and your experience challenges the idea that women only want relationships with “chad.” i'm not larping. i also don't value my capability to have casual sex anymore. i want to have a stable long term partner. it's not exciting to chase a new "conquest" anymore. it's boring and tiring. i also don't fit the typical view of a chad. i'm a very feminine skinny pretty boy. i'm bisexual and sexually submissive. i've been pegged by multiple wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 07:00 PM
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stainility is this a typo? did you mean stability? practical things to offer? this sounds so materialistic. it's more like that these women preferred men who are good long term partners instead of being exciting like me. i can make a good first impression in the sense that i'm a cool charismatic man, but when the women learn to know me better they usually lose interest. i don't have a diagnosis but i score high in basically all cluster B personality disorders, especially histrionic. my past part…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 06:25 PM
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can't really comment on that, i can't hold steady relationships. my n count is somewhere around ~60 but there is only one woman i could call an ex. even that relationship lasted only around 4 months. what i do know is that women who i have pursued have in the end preferred "beta soyboys" over me. turns out being a pretty bad boy only carries you so far and being a nice considerate man who has his life together actually matters more. i wish i was more mentally stable, banging a new girl has stopp…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 05:18 PM
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i have never paid on a date for anything else than my own expenses. hasn't stopped me from having plenty of success.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 03:40 PM
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Violence and overcriminalization. Men make up the majority of both victims and incarcerated. this is men hurting other men, how do you expect "woke crowd" to address it?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 02:05 PM
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Women don’t want to normalise prostitution because we know that men/Society will never be fair enough to return the favour to not treat these workers like bottom of the barrel people. 90% of the people i see advocating for sex workers are women
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 09:29 AM
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how is it infantilizing women to acknowledge that men on average are bigger and stronger and therefore capable of inflicting more serious damage?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/21 12:20 PM
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trying to give children puberty blockers well duh what's the point of giving puberty blockers to someone who has already gone through puberty? No matter how you feel about abortion, pro-choice people want to reduce pro-life arguments to, "You're trying to control menstruators' bodies," instead of arguing where life begins. yes because where life is begins is irrelevant. we can agree that the fetus is a living human being and the mother still has the right to kill it because the mother's right to…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 10:35 AM
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i don't hate men in general, but men definitely are much more dangerous and in general worse company. i prefer women as friends too, never really got along with other boys.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/21 10:48 PM
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i am a man. often not very fond of other men though.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/21 10:38 PM
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By saying men murder you are saying that all men have mental deficits and/or problems. nah but it definitely seems to be mostly a male issue. i can say that most infanticides are made by women or most of the maltreatment elders receive in elder houses are made by women yes you can say that. the point is that when men hating women often leads to violence which is a much bigger problem than something like FDS where some overly picky women bitch that they can't get a suitable male partner. bitter l…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/21 08:45 PM
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Men don’t murder, murderers murder. now tell me what percentage of all homicides are commited by men. it's 96 %.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/21 07:43 PM
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online dating was already around in 2015. and in tinder nobody has ever asked for my height and i don't put it in my bio.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/21 07:39 PM
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you understand this empty is feeling is not being at peace?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 02:18 PM
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you don't need to be extremely attractive to be able have on average atleast 1 ONS per month if you go to clubs and parties a lot and live in a city with lots of young people. i remember in 2017 summer i fucked someone new almost every week at one point.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 04:39 PM
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just saying because a lot of people assume femboys are gay for some reason
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 11:01 AM
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i've had sex with way more women than men and i'm in general much more attracted to women than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 10:25 AM
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is it? my n-count is high and my longest relationship is 4 months
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 09:23 AM
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because fucking someone hot is more validating? this isn't gender specific lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 09:12 AM
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i doubt this would solve shit for incels atleast, they'd be bitter and resentful that some other men get sex without paying. it's more about validation and being desired for them than the actual act of sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 06:16 AM
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HVM men what do you think the M stands for in HVM?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 06:11 AM
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do you actually have any statistics? i rarely come condom or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/21 11:48 AM
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i've had a lot of casual sex to the point i don't really know what my N is but it's probably somewhere in the 50-60 range. it was my insecurity that fueled such behaviour, it wasn't actually satisfying. i rarely even came during those encounters, i did it for the ego boost and validation. having a deep emotional connection to someone is much more meaningful. sex is also much better with such person.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 03:28 PM
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being dissatisfied with frequency of sex doesn't mean you want to fuck other people, you want to fuck your partner more often.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 03:21 PM
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But why are incels blamed for all the women related violence then complete strawman, it is often highlighted that a lot of sexual and physical violence women face is from their partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 06:04 AM
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In older times men found satisfaction in being explorers, soldiers, miners, surveyors, trappers and a whole list of occupations and preoccupations that took them outside of society and into the frontiers of nature where they were tested and learned what they were made of. even back then this was a tiny tiny part of the male population. most men's daily lives were same kind of repetitive drudgery as these days
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/21 11:57 AM
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His is almost 100% where the fuck does this come from lol, it's not that rare for men to have orgasm problems too.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/21 05:28 AM
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complete bullshit, university and higher education is free here in finland and men are falling behind all the same
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/21 05:28 PM
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i mean that's perfectly understandable and logical. like imagine if the wife could work say 4 hour days to supplement the husband's income while still having more time to take care of the house and kids
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/21 09:44 PM
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you sound kinda unhealthily obsessed with your partner if you think they are so perfect there couldn't be someone better
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 07:45 PM
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creativity is super hot in women too. when some girl is already cute in my eyes and i find out that they for example paint, write poetry or something like that i just swoon
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 01:51 PM
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shit i really don't pay much attention to people's heights, i'm 178 cm which is pretty much exactly the average so most people are either a little bit shorter or a little bit taller than me or same height. i do remember that atleast two of them are short. also i'm not saying per se they're ugly, just average. not men who can coast on looks alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 11:36 AM
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hedonistic pleasures are very fleeting and don't give you longer lasting happiness and a feeling of being generally content with your life. during my wildest years i was out almost every weekend partying, doing drugs and having tons of casual sex and i was not a very happy person. also sex is not that pleasurable unless i have an exceptionally strong orgasm. i've been bored during sex countless times in my life and told the woman sorry not feeling it and called it quits before i even came
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 09:27 AM
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there's plenty of men who are not much to look at that are very popular with women. generally it takes high status in atleast certain social scene. i know some musicians, writers and other creative types who are not that attractive but they've been pursued by hot women. those women are themselves too usually the artsy creative type. mind you, these men i'm talking about are not even all particularly succesful and known only on a very local level here in finland. they are not rich or anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 09:20 AM
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Causes mental harm does it or is it society shaming women for it?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 11:56 PM
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that may be the case for you but a lot of these men are genuinely clueless.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 07:44 PM
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Capitalizing on that is also a bad thing because it just exacerbates the issue it doesn't necessarily exacerbate it. we as a society can move towards a direction where women don't get objectified in contexts where it's unwanted and at the same time providing contexts where it is welcome. i don't tell random girls on the street "nice ass!", but when i'm having sex with a partner i will tell them how hot i find them. there's a time and place for objectification.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 07:42 PM
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getting beaten causes tangible physical harm. showing pictures of you naked does nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 07:39 PM
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i also don't understand what exactly is the view you want to be changed. yes you are correct and i don't see any problem with it. i have no problem with sex work.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 07:37 PM
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In spite of this, we now see millions of women flocking to sites like OnlyFans to make their living, even with an array of different options available to them. and? it's really good money for fairly little effort for the more popular ones. It’s not empowering to be a sex worker it doesn't have to be empowering but it can be something we view as neutral and not denigrating. personally i would find it empowering if i could make money by just selling my pics. i don't really see what's the differenc…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 07:32 PM
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based on discussions i've had with female friends a lot of men are really bad at selling themselves. they don't understand what kind of tinder bio is good. they don't understand how to take good pictures. they don't understand how to come across as interesting. society puts much more explicit emphasis on women's looks and because of this women are much more aware of how to present themselves and they have better understanding of how others perceive them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 03:21 PM
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funny considering it seems like the years considered being a "young adult" keep constantly rising up
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 03:17 PM
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they want a woman who is a whore for him and a chaste virgin for others
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 08:58 AM
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seems to be pretty damn many looking at this map https://i.redd.it/cs3e5bcn29s01.jpg t. finn
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/21 11:06 AM
1

marriage hasn't had anything to do with religion for ages now, many get married in a secular ceremony
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/21 11:03 AM
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hookups are boring and don't really give you anything. as someone who has had tons of casual sex i'd rather be dating material.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/21 09:50 AM
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fat in women can go into places like tits or ass. fat is never good on a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/21 09:42 AM
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no. abortion is about right to bodily autonomy and the man has no role in that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/21 09:37 PM
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no they are not equal. visual stimuli is much stronger than reading and imagining the scenes in your head.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/21 03:18 PM
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men are much more likely to leave their partners if the partner falls seriously ill this is a statistical fact
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/21 10:29 AM
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maslow's hierarchy of needs is just a theoretical concept, not a hard fact. it has also been disputed many times. you sound like someone who has just taken like intro course in pscyhology instead of studying it extensively.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/21 10:22 AM
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This post is basically attacking men for wanting what they have always wanted, and are biologically programmed to want. lmao TRP is all about claiming certain things are female nature while also disparaging women for being that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/21 06:14 PM
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And we would probably rank women on personality, if they had one. Most women are virtue signalling NPC's. shit like this is always so funny to read as a man who has always liked women better also as friends and generally gets along better with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/21 01:36 PM
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i'm an only child so i can give my parents a pass, that's not so bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/21 11:10 AM
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you don't understand the concept of patriarchy if you think that some women holding more social power over men disputes it
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/21 09:33 PM
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/r/AreTheStraightsOK is not really specifically about the dynamics of online dating. it's more about the weird and fucked up social norms & expectations that come with heteronormativity and patriarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/21 04:51 PM
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uh oh you sound a lot like a str***ht sympathizer.. do you feel good about being the gay version of an uncle tom? will you feel good when you get headpats from the breeders for being one of the good gays?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/21 03:37 PM
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welcome to the club head over to /r/AreTheStraightsOK when you feel the need to vent
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/21 11:50 AM
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it's not exactly a surprise that parents often try to control their daughters much more than their sons. it's sad of course, daughters should have the exact same amount of freedom, maybe even more since girls tend to mature quicker than boys. despite this, parents tend to see their daughters as more fragile and delicate and therefore needing more protection compared to male children.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/21 11:49 AM
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it's hard to describe in words, it's just a certain "vibe". like if they are these creative type leftist girls who wear glasses and have tattoos and/or piercings etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/21 05:32 PM
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Do you feel like you can sense whether a girl is into you just based on her appearance/profile? definitely. in tinder i can usually tell based on the appearance and bio of the woman that this is going to be a match before i swipe right. of course the match is not always instantenuous and they later on swipe right on me after i've already done so.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/21 05:16 PM
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maybe? i really don't know what sort of "game" other men are running. i know that the type of women that are attracted to me usually fall into a certain "niche" which is artsy creative girls who often identify as bi or pan.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/21 04:56 PM
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the point is that when such a large amount of men are overweight slobs without higher education it's perfectly possible to rise above the rest with your own effort even if you didn't get perfect chad genes.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/21 04:22 PM
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considering how unattractive the average man is it's not hard to rise above that standard by doing things like hitting the gym. based on my own experiences if you are atleast moderately cute guy who takes care of his body and has an university degree dating is not hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/21 01:07 PM
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no i don't really regret any of my relationships even the ones that didn't end so good. i find they all taught me valuable things about both myself and others. especially the former, i will freely admit i have quite a lot of so called dark triad traits. some of those bad relationships have helped me see myself from other people's point of view.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/21 08:20 AM
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the point is that i value my own idea of what looks good over what makes me attractive to the average woman. if i had a magic pill that made me jacked as fuck and masculine i wouldn't take it. i prefer being beautiful and slim instead of handsome and muscular. taking the pill would sure increase my sexual success but it's not what i want to look like.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/21 06:44 PM
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i didn't say that the aim is to make yourself less attractive to others. i said that what makes you feel attractive is not necessarily same as what makes you attractive to others and that you can value the first one more. i already said in another post here an example. one of my ex's liked body hair on men and beards. i on the other hand like to be a completely hairless pretty boy and i shave my entire body roughly once a week. did i care about her request eventhough it would be LESS WORK for me…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/21 04:51 PM
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that's a pretty trash answer from you isn't it? what makes you feel more attractive to yourself is not necessarily the same as what makes you more attractive to others and i for sure know that i value the first one more.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/21 04:26 PM
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i was with a woman who liked body hair on men and wanted me to stop shaving myself but i wouldn't do it because looking good to myself is more important and i find body hair gross. i also know many women would like me better if grew a beard or built muscle but i prefer to be a skinny smooth pretty boy for my own sake. if they don't like it it's their loss
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/21 03:59 PM
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how do you explain me modifying my looks in a way that makes me less attractive to women but more attractive to myself?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/21 03:58 PM
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just because the woman initiates the divorce process doesn't necessarily mean that it's about the woman leaving the man. it's quite common for one reason or another for women to do the divorce filing even if it's the man who wants to leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 12:51 PM
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fucking sex workers wouldn't eradicate incels. it's clearly in reality about the social validation and feeling of being desired for them, not simply having sex. if they paid money to fuck sex workers they would still be bitter that other men get it for free and are actually desired by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 04:05 AM
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a sizable percentage of men have always died without ever marrying or having children. the ones that failed to secure a partner just didn't have internet to discuss their sexual failures anonymously and form a subculture and ideology around it. people who you would call incels have always existed, they just didn't have the means to find each other and share their grievances.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 04:03 AM
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it certainly is in the context of trying to win somebody's attraction. that would be off-putting and make you seem like a sleazy creep to most finnish women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 02:25 AM
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i've never done that or in general paying for a date. everybody pays their own expenses. honestly i think a lot of women would find it patronizing if you tried to pay their bills here in finland.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 02:24 AM
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complete bullshit, men are without a doubt more aggressive.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 07:24 PM
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despite statistics showing men are far more likely to be victims of violence yeah, victims of violence by other men. men are violent and dangerous compared to women, it't not even close. something like 92% of all homicides are commited by men
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 07:23 PM
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Things like letting a guy buy you 5 or 6 drinks when you knew by drink number 2 you would never go out with him. Or 5 dinners. hold up why are these men doing stupid shit like this?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 07:19 PM
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the problem is with the guys for buying women drinks, i've never done that. is that a still common thing in the US?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 07:17 PM
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men put less effort into their appearance. men are also more thirsty and ready to fuck women they don't truly find attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/21 03:26 PM
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who cares? i don't care if i'm the best my partner has ever had, that'd be very narcissistic and insecure of me.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/21 12:01 AM
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i know some nerds who are also super nerdy about stuff like researching their work out regime and macros etc. while also being super nerdy about typical nerdy interests they sort of approach their own body and appearance like min-maxing an rpg character
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 11:58 PM
3

You ever been in pain because of a vagina? yea, multiple times. i thought it could be because of a too short frenulum but getting it snapped didn't fix it. Furthermore, you ever have sex with someone continuously and never had an orgasm? i rarely get an orgasm from PIV sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/20 04:51 PM
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you make some good points but i have never heard of a guy turning down a blowjob because they are insecure about what their dick looks like. i've heard many times of women turning down a man who wants go down on them because they are insecure about their vulva. i've had one female partner myself who didn't want me to go down on her because of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/20 04:40 PM
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i've always said the things that might sometimes suck about being a man are mostly the fault of other men. i sure as hell know that i generally speaking prefer the company of women both as friends and romantic/sexual partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/20 02:44 PM
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Any answer other than zero brings about the image of your partner getting intimate with other men which invokes feelings of disgust speak for yourself weirdo
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 10:38 AM
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porn isn't going anywhere so we need better safeguards to make sure it's produced safely without coercion etc. trying to ban porn is pointless, approaching the issue by trying to make it as least damaging as possible is the way to go. pretty much the same thing as with drugs.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 10:15 AM
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why would i suddenly care more about those things if i were married? marriage is an outdated concept anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 10:05 AM
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literally the only one that is not completely down to own insecurity is the one about the partner being used to a bigger dick. still not a very realistic fear. why would i care who has nudes of my partner or who has seen her naked and done things to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/20 09:43 AM
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I don't have to worry that 20 men have her nudes on their phones. I don't have to think about some dude seeing my girl naked and doing things to her. I don't have to worry about pair bonding. I don't have to worry about her not thinking I'm big enough, because she didn't get railed by 10 inchers in the past. you don't have to worry about these things with any woman if you're not full of weird insecurities
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/20 09:10 AM
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yeah i never watch man fucking woman type of porn, does nothing for me. i care more about what my ass looks like than my dick size
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 09:11 AM
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i legit don't give a shit if a girl i'm dating has had ex's with bigger dick i've never really understood this obsession with penis size some men have
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 08:58 AM
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still does not sound like something that pertains to me, i've complained about my life way more to my female partners than they've complained to me about theirs besides, i kinda like it when people open up to me about what is on their mind
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 03:11 PM
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i wonder how i've paid for kisses and sex with women who bought me more things than the other way around.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 11:50 AM
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who the hell gives a shit And how should men deal with knowing that their partners have experienced more ideal versions of penis size in the past? i couldn't possibly care less. my partners have had previous partners who might have been superior or inferior compared to me in who knows how many aspects. why would i care specifically so much if they found someone else's penis preferable? it's just a penis. i care more about how good my ass looks than my dick size as a man anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 03:00 PM
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success breeds entitlement. when you are used to things always going your way it's more upsetting when they don't
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 05:47 AM
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what do you mean "normally"? pedos differ in their preferred gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/20 10:36 AM
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why would you need to be married anyway to be together with someone? outdated tradition that stems from religion
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/20 03:30 PM
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yes but some women have particularly liked me for my feminine aesthetic. not all women are into manly men
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/20 09:29 AM
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i've even crossdressed in parties and bars in a skirt and thigh socks and still gotten laid. and yeah i'm a pretty boy and there are plenty of women who are into femboys.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/20 09:04 AM
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Why do you think men hide their emotions and weaknesses. Its because all men tried opening up to a woman only for her to lose all attraction for him. based on my personal experience this toxic masculinity is mostly enforced by other men. it was never women who called me a faggot or shamed me for being feminine, it was other men. in fact, i've had female partners who liked to apply makeup on me and paint my nails etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/20 10:38 PM
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i don't see it that way but diagnosing someone as a psychopath based on simply being catty and gossiping/spreading rumours is ridiculous i know many psychopaths never commit any crimes and find their place in leadership positions etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/20 02:57 PM
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this is a weird rant but it's an objective fact that men are more violent than women and it's not even close to equal. look at the gender distribution of serial killers, rapists, mass murderers etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/20 01:48 PM
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if you look at the context i was responding to someone who said sex is a psychological need
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/20 01:17 PM
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it's a tragedy isn't it i'm a man myself and i sure am much more afraid of other men than any women. men commit something like 92% of all violence. it's very understandable women are afraid of men since women are also smaller and physically weaker on average.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/20 01:05 PM
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men in general are dangerous
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/20 09:23 AM
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lmao gossiping or spreading rumours doesn't make someone a psychopath
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/20 09:10 AM
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sex is not a need if it's less of a need when you decide to abstain from it. hunger is a need regardless of whether you choose not to eat or don't have food
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/20 10:40 AM
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not really. when i was working on my thesis i made a conscious decision to abstain from clubs/parties on weekends to chase girls and i didn't find that dry spell affecting my life in any significant way
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/20 03:02 AM
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someone else out there could probably love you enough to want to own you past, present, and future” past? this sounds outright insane. also that stuff about owning you all to herself..
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/20 02:58 AM
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self-harm is defined by the impact it has on you hurting yourself is not self-harm if it doesn't harm you
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/20 09:56 AM
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but doesn't the idea of people under/overvaluing themselves by your criteria discredit your whole theory? 🤔 your whole theory rests on the assumption that women especially are fully rational when it comes choosing their partners by "objective" physical attractiveness
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 10:51 PM
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yeah but according to your logic women should be going downwards in their partners? i know my ex doesn't engage in casual sex, who she has fucked is the same as who she has dated. so how come she started from two unattractive men, then upgraded to a very attractive and very succesful man, downgraded to me who is attractive and not very succesful, upgraded to someone who is attractive and somewhat succesful, and finally upgraded to someone who is more attractive and equally succesful as the guy b…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 07:25 PM
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"biology" matters very little for something like this, humans are social creatures. of the women i know i can't see a pattern where the men they have dated or had sex with keep decreasing in attractiveness after the previous one. they might end up having a short fling with some dude they would never consider for anything more and then next end up in a relationship with someone very attractive. of my own ex's previous partners before me, i'd say the first 2 were less attractive than me, then the …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 02:10 PM
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do you have any evidence that the man women eventually choose for marriage is less attractive or accomplished than the ones they've had casual flings with before?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 01:53 PM
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i've read tons of books with young men protagonists which could be characterized as a male version of sex and the city. i'm reading one right now which is the 5th book in the my struggle series by karl ove knausgård
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/20 10:52 AM
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i'm a twig and a lot of women have wanted me. in my experience the "artsy hipster chicks" especially tend to often like skinny guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/20 10:48 AM
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yeah i've been very succesful in attracting women for sex and i'm the skinny hipster type. i'm also very feminine and more beautiful than handsome. of course that means i have my own niche. i am very appealing to artsy hipster chicks, probably not to your stereotypical blonde airhead.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/20 10:47 AM
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any man who has fucked a 8/10 in a one night fling could very easily get a woman of that caliber or better for a long-term relationship how come i have then had sex with dozens of beautiful women but i've only once managed to date one? that relationship also only lasted for 3 months. and i have tried to pursue relationships with multiple women, i'm not a "player" who wants to be a manwhore. i just end up having only short term sexual relationships. most of my sex partners have been ONS's.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/20 10:29 AM
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is it really ridiculous? based on my social networks most heterosexual long-term relationships are formed between people of quite similar education, occupation and attractiveness level. in fact, if we look at only physical attractiveness i know way more couples where the girl is the more attractive one than couples where it's the other way around. most couples are roughly equal though as i said.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/20 10:06 AM
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works the other way too. generally i look for my equal (or better haha), but of my past relationships the woman i was the most attracted to was less educated than me. she however had great artistic talent which i value highly.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/20 10:02 AM
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