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Sounds like you’re triggered.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/20 01:06 AM
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And you forgot that shaming tactics only work on retarded bloops.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 10:16 PM
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They don’t exist because I suspect she is a new troll larping Nah, she’s a woman. You even see her somewhat defending sluts saying “men who can’t handle the past” etc
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 12:54 AM
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? How many super-high-N men would date a low N-woman, wait 8 months, and talk about marriage before sex? I, as well as many other TRP men here, would be willing to wait months for a quality woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 12:53 AM
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You forgot the “Teehee” at the end
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/20 09:27 PM
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I’m very confident that you will have a happy and fruitful marriage. High value women (low-n) and high value men (high-n) pairing up permanently are the best marriages.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/20 08:01 PM
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because I was incredibly inexperienced and he was incredibly experienced And yet the screeching women of this sub (not you) would try to have us (falsely) believe that low n women hate high n men 🤭 Edit: they would also try to convince us that high n men prefer to wife high n sluts 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/20 07:20 PM
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I think you be surprised at how many 20 something's are in there. The 20 somethings in FDS are women whom are below average in attractiveness and whom were fuckzoned and pumped and dumped by men a couple leagues above them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/20 09:09 PM
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That said, pictures where she's with other dudes DO work, you just won't get any man here to admit it. These guys are just gonna go on denial trips about how the moment they see a woman within a 15 foot vicinity of a male human even if it's her own father their attraction instantly shrivels up and dies. Insofar as she is physically attractive, pictures with a bunch of other dudes would make her go in the “fuckbuddy only” box. Wouldn’t be LTR material though, because we know she gets around. Than…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/20 07:39 AM
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Number 8 should be in bold. DO NOT ALLOW YOURSELF TO BE LISTED AS THE FATHER ON ANY CHILD'S BIRTH CERTIFICATE UNTIL YOU HAVE ESTABLISHED BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT THAT YOU ARE THAT CHILD'S FATHER.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen13/09/20 12:32 AM
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😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/20 03:33 PM
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I hope she sees this bro
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 09:53 PM
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Societies progressed to become more monogamous. Society became better when men had one wife. It's always been the best structure. Omg mimoxs I love you I’m confused now tho. Normally your comments are a bit... off the mark. But this one 👌
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 09:19 PM
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Liking someone out of your league isn't a crime. The problem is men will manipulate a woman's romantic interest into sex and then ghost. High value men are always going to take the free casual sex that women below his league are handing to him on a silver platter. What is he supposed to do? Turn down the free sex? Women are the gatekeepers of sex. If a woman wants a relationship, she needs to choose men in her own league.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 07:45 PM
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she was fuckzoned by a 300lb man? Doubt. It’s the same way how every woman’s ex is “ugly” and “abusive”. Women always say negative things about men who they couldn’t control and about men who dumped them The bottom line is this: women who are getting fuckzoned are punching above their pay grade
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 07:32 PM
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If the men are 2 or more points above her in SMV, then yes, you are correct, since losing weight will only make someone move up one point. But there are only two circumstances where women get fuckzoned/P&Ded. I already explained that in my first reply to you. Women getting fuckzoned need to reasses themselves in the mirror (without makeup, this is the key) and go for men in their own league if they want a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 07:18 PM
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You're not paying attention to modern women if you don't see how many beautiful women are getting played by men who lie to them and string them along. You’re not paying attention if you don’t see the handful of men in a modern woman’s friend zone who are within in her own league and who would be willing to give her a relationship — but instead she chooses to exchange sex coins for commitment for unavailable men a couple leagues above her, and end up being fuckzoned/pumped and dumped women are ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 07:05 PM
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For the thin girl, only if she’s overrating herself and going for men above her league and having casual sex before commitment. It’s easy for any thin woman to obtain a relationship with men in her league For the fat girl, yeah, maybe
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 06:55 PM
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Only under two circumstances: I) she has a reputation for being around the block (or the man otherwise estimated that she has high n count) ii) guy is two leagues above her
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 06:47 PM
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It’s tells us that women need to stop choosing to be a part of harems with men out of their league and instead choose stable men within their own league
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 08:56 PM
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It was 10% in 1960. Clearly you can see why this is a decline.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 07:53 PM
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Also only 25% of parents in the US are unmarried, so not sure where you're getting over 50% from? No. 57% of all millennial women are single mothers compared with only 10% in 1960. That’s what we mean. It will be higher for Gen Z and Gen A https://www.wealthysinglemommy.com/single-mom-statistics/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2014/12/18/the-unbelievable-rise-of-single-motherhood-in-america-over-the-last-50-years/
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 06:36 PM
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You read wrong https://reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/ippyvg/_/g4lbgwx/?context=1
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 05:37 AM
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Yes. Women are getting married later. Thats irrelevant 29 is still old. 29 is not a young age for women, neither for looks nor fertility. By your logic, If the median age for marriage became 45, you’d be saying 45 is “young”
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 05:36 AM
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What makes you think 29 is young?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 05:32 AM
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29 is young AF 😂😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 05:28 AM
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Most women are unaware of this phenomenon. They don't realize the market imbalance. That's why spaces like this exist. That’s why we need to educate the younger generation on SMP dynamics like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 02:10 AM
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Choosy, but in a different way
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 02:09 AM
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You realize it’s the women choosing to fuck a small minority of men? It’s math. He can’t take care of all of the kids of the women in his harem. Women are the gatekeepers of sex. Instead of following tingles, they should use logic and know what I typed here, and in my previous comment Choose a stable man in your league, who you know will take care of you. The “boring” guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 01:37 AM
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Women should never be shamed when the man runs out. If she gets knocked up by an FWB or ONS, she should be shamed. She chose to be a part of a harem with many other women and is shocked that he didn’t stick around to take care of the kid. She could’ve chose a stable guy who would’ve given her an actual relationship and stick around if she got pregnant. But she choose the harem route (even though she didn’t know or consider the fact that she’s in a harem) She should be shamed in those circumstanc…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 01:27 AM
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Single motherhood is more the fault of men than women. In the past women were very frequently getting pregnant outside marriage, but back then the men stuck around and didn't ditch them. Back then it was a 1:1 assortative mating ratio, so the men obviously stuck around, duh. Nowadays, the majority of women choose to fuck a small minority of men and get a shocked pikachu face when he doesn’t stick around to take care of her and her spawn. Simple math dictates that if an alpha has a harem and knoc…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 01:10 AM
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I finally read your post and this is where your argument falls apart: The only difference now is 1) how well-kept it was in comparison to how open we are now, and 2) slightly way higher numbers. It’s way higher numbers today. It’s not female promiscuity itself causing the decline, it’s the extent of female promiscuity.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 10:56 PM
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It’s not even that it has become the norm, it’s the level of promiscuity overall. The level of promiscuity we see today are at unprecedented highs when compared with the times she referenced in her post. Yes, female promiscuity always existed, but not at the sky high levels that we see in modern times. It’s not that female promiscuity itself will cause a decline, it’s the very high levels of female promiscuity that cause a decline; and that is what we see today
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 10:38 PM
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Normie women in 1600, 1700 and 1930 weren’t racking up n counts in the dozens like they are in 2020. That’s what we’re talking about. The levels of promiscuity today are way higher than the times which you referenced. That’s why we see the decline.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 10:35 PM
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If female promiscuity has always existed at relatively similar levels but only now do we see a decline, that means something else is to blame. Female promiscuity never existed at the very high levels that we have today. In the past, yes women were promiscuous, but not to the extent that they are today. The decline is because of the very high levels of female promiscuity
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 10:34 PM
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What we have today is a decline which can be directly traced to the sexual revolution/feminism movement. I don’t care what happened 300 years ago. I care that we deviated from our norms 70 years ago. Moreover, the levels of female promiscuity today are at all time highs; way higher than at any other point which you referenced in your post. The record sky high levels of female promiscuity is what is causing the dissolution of the nuclear family. This is the decline.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 10:17 PM
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Not sure if this is due to genuine ignorance, or an attempt to be disingenuous and gaslight men about an obvious truth. https://ifstudies.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/wolfinger-sex-divorce-table-1.png As you can see from the table, in the past, a greater percentage of all women in society had low n-counts than they do today. In the past, a lower percentage of women in society had high n-counts than they do today. You know it, I know it, everyone knows it
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 10:11 PM
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The average woman can score almost any guy, tbh. For casual sex, not a relationship. This is what women don’t understand, Women have this exact mindset, go fuck numerous hot guys out of their league, get fuckzoned every time, then go on antidepressants and antipsychotics
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 04:02 AM
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A man who has liberal values about sex will likely go for a woman who has more liberal values around sex. If he wants to get cucked, sure
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/20 05:16 PM
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Compatibility is determined by the character traits and behaviours which is determined by n-count N-count isn’t a “single stat”. It tells you a fuck load about a person
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/20 05:08 PM
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Most men don't evaluate women on a single stat compatibility, character etc. N-count isn’t a single stat The low n woman also comes with other character traits and behaviours that are superior when choosing a long term partner and a woman to be the mother of your kids. The high n woman comes with other negative traits independent of the n count.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/20 05:03 PM
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Re #2 Take a survey, in real life, or online, or both. Give men a choice between two identical 9/10 women, but one has an n-count of 20 (or more) and the other has an n count of 3, ask him which one he would choose to marry. I think we both know what the overwhelming majority of men will answer. The fantasy is denying this uncomfortable truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/20 04:35 PM
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I’m only talking about in this subreddit. I would never state that preference in public at all, for obvious reasons. The men here expressing their preferences do not express those preferences in real life
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/20 02:36 AM
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All the comments telling men that they’re “insecure” or “closeted homosexual” because he doesn’t want to wife up a town bike
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/20 01:10 AM
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“I don’t want to be with women who are XYZ, I’m not into those kind of women.”Full period stop. How about : “I don’t want to be with women who are XYZ, I’m not into those kind of women because studies prove that they do ABC “ (Thus justifying your preference with empirical evidence)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/20 01:07 AM
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You can't go back and unsleep with people, so by the time you meet you current partner, their sexual history is as immutable as height. But she could’ve prevented herself from sleeping with those men in the first place. She got there as a result of her choices. With height, this is not the case. Height is not a choice
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/20 01:04 AM
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No anger or frustration from me.. the only frustration/anger is from the high n women in this thread upset that men have standards too
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/20 01:01 AM
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If a woman’s proximity to other men sexually and/or socially is a deterrent for a man dating her it’s because he has a very low opinion of men, and judges a woman who interacts with them freely as debasing herself. This is a next level manipulation/shaming tactic. Never seen one this advanced before. Kudos. But women who sleep around belong to streets.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/20 12:19 AM
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Being excluded for immutable characteristics is even more hypocritical, but the women here won’t concede that; sluts just wanna have their cake and eat it too.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/20 12:14 AM
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Ok but would you argue it's hypocritical to date women because you have a dick and they do not? By rose’s logic, I’d be a hypocrite 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/20 11:58 PM
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For what it’s worth, I’d rather date a sex worker than a slut Edit: (Insofar as n-counts are equal between a given slut and a given sex worker, that is.)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/20 11:51 PM
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You can’t change your height. Which makes it even more hypocritical to have that standard which you yourself do not meet.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/20 11:40 PM
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It is hypocritical to hold someone to a standard that you yourself do not meet. All the standards you have for men you date, for example height, do you meet them as well? (ie, are you exactly the same height?) If not, then you are hypocritical.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/20 11:31 PM
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He’s trying to say that: If a woman has a standard for a man to be a certain height, but the woman is not that certain height, then she is a hypocrite. Choosing people who are different than you is not being hypocritical. Then why is choosing a woman with a lower n-count hypocritical. ? Having standards you do not personally meet and demand them out of potential partners is hypocritical. This contradicts your previous sentence “Choosing people who are different than you is not being hypocritical…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/20 11:28 PM
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If I reject a woman because she gained the same amount of muscle that I did in the gym, I’m a hypocrite? Okay Women will reject men who cry over minor bullshit, but they themselves (women) cry over minor bullshit. Are they hypocrites too? Men and women are different and ought to behave in different ways. Certain behaviours are innately masculine and others are innately feminine. If a woman or a man is engaging in masculine or feminine behaviour respectively, then the opposite sex has the right t…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/20 10:38 PM
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When a woman values you and the relationship, she will mateguard herself and decline advances from other men. The only time it is acceptable for a man to mateguard is where she is clearly and unequivocally declining the advances of a dude, but the dude is becoming more and more insistent and touchy; that’s when you, as the man, step in.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/20 09:55 PM
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We both know the answer to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/20 03:34 PM
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“Stat” I’m not talking about stats here. It would depend on the individual woman and man in question. Meaning, to a given woman, a HVM is the type of men she dated and had sex with during her prime
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/20 03:02 PM
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I define HVM as men who women wouldn’t have rejected in their early 20s
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/20 02:48 PM
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It’s an easily observable phenomenon. Scientists haven’t and wouldn’t do a study on this. Question: do you believe that women can get men above their league for a one night stand?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/20 11:28 PM
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We both know that women aren’t fucking men less attractive than them when looking for one night stands and FWBs. The simple fact that women are able to get men more attractive than them for casual sex, means that they will have casual sex with men who are more attractive than they are — (if casual sex is their thing)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/20 11:23 PM
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How do you know women aren’t sleeping with men less attractive than them? For casual sex? Lmao good one 😂 promiscuous people men lower their standards for ONS and FWBs. FTFY
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/20 11:09 PM
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Do you agree that women can (and do) get men above their league for a one night stand or as friends with benefits? Once you agree that they can (and do) , then everything else logically flows from it. These men they can get for one night stands won’t commit, so it follows that the men who would actually commit are less attractive than the ones they get for one night stands; this makes the women unhappy once they settle down.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/20 10:51 PM
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Are you saying women marry lower quality men while sleeping with higher quality men? Yes. In the casual sex market, women aren’t sleeping with men less attractive than them. These men they get for casual sex are more attractive than they are. It’s easy for a woman to shoot above her league in ONS or FWBs (and they do). They cannot get these same men to commit, however. If these (attractive) men that women get for casual sex do not commit, then it logically follows that the men they can get actua…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/20 10:34 PM
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Also, the women that a man has casual sex with are less attractive than a woman he can get to be his wife. For women it’s the opposite. The men she gets for casual sex are far more attractive than a man she can get to be her husband. This is all explained in the original comment. This is why promiscuity and sleeping around before settling down hurts women more. A man will be satisfied with his wife, because she’s the most attractive he’s ever had. For women it’s the opposite; her husband is the …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/20 09:49 PM
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But his wife is the most attractive he can get; the women he cheats with are less attractive than his wife. For a woman, her husband is the least attractive she can get; the men she cheats with are more attractive than her husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/20 09:44 PM
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Most HVM's are in committed relationships with HVW. Most HVMs don’t commit
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/20 08:51 PM
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They have casual sex with the same partner for years on end so they are not destroying their pair bonding abilities because it's the same partner for a long time. No. In a given city there are thousands of high value men able to and having casual sex. Many women having causal sex are also having it with multiple men per week. But I agree with the rest of your points.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/20 08:35 PM
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u/aoeusnth48 summed it up best: “Because the fact that a man who has had many women interested in him and has been with many women, but chose YOU for commitment is the exact opposite (he could have had any of those girls but he choose ME) of a woman who's enthusiastically given herself to many men she couldn't have and had to unenthusiastically and begrudgingly "settle" for you as the shot clock on her fertility and youthfulness is running out. A man will be able to get the most he'll be able to…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/20 08:32 PM
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Women will get away with sexual innuendo/harassment, but not discrimination or xenophobia. Everyone will be cancelled for the latter in 2020, regardless of gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/20 06:50 PM
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They desire money u/DangZagnut is gonna love this xD
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/20 02:58 PM
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Low value men are men that were in the friend zone (or who would have been in the friend zone) during a woman’s sexual prime (18-27). Women only settle for those (StableTM ) men because they realize there aren’t enough alphas to commit to all the women. A woman settling for a man when she’s older and then convincing herself that he’s a “HVM” doesn’t magically make him HV
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/20 06:47 PM
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Lol true
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/20 06:37 PM
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Lol no. There is no woman who is hotter at 31 than she was at 21
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/20 06:33 PM
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Ahh, what about 29 and 31 though? Isn’t that prime age? 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/20 06:33 PM
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A man who a woman would not have rejected when she was in her prime.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/20 03:50 PM
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Men dislike reading anything about themselves that is not praising them. Any criticism put towards men they will automatically hate The irony here
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 03:54 PM
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It almost makes me think they know what they're doing, and the hamstering is all a product of motivated reasoning. https://imgur.com/gsq4CVZ They admitted it when asked. They say women IRL do this too. As the physically weaker sex, women evolved superior psychological tactics such as gaslighting, manipulation and deception to ensure their security in the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/20 06:00 AM
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99% sure it’s a woman. She’s like “normalize not caring about women’s past and men taking the short end of the stick to prevent uprising “ — no way a man would say that But yeah I agree
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/20 03:33 AM
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Normalizing paying directly for sex does exactly that Her words and her tone indicates that doesn’t want that; she wants men to take leftover 30s women who ignored them for over a decade. Normalizing prostitution for the bottom 80% of men means that 80% of CC riders go without husbands. Women need the BB at the end of the CC.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/20 03:25 AM
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They take it as a very bad sign if a woman adopts the dating habits of a man Such as being promiscuous It means she’s desperate, and other men won’t have her [won’t commit] Yep
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/20 02:58 AM
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You get what you pay for. This is what women say while stringing along a beta by giving him a peck on the cheek after he took her out to a 5-star dinner— then later that night, went to an alpha’s apartment, got fucked, then got kicked out after he nutted.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/20 02:43 AM
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We have to normalize not caring about your girlfriend's past Absolutely not. We have to normalize lopsided relationships in which men give much more and take much less if we want any hope of women choosing to be with bottom 80% men. Absolutely not.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/20 02:41 AM
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Most betas wouldn’t have a problem with that if the women weren’t ran through for a decade, like they are in modern society The only way a man can beta bucks in a semi-respectful way is to do it for a woman who isn’t/wasn’t a slut in the past. If her body count is double digits, it’s better to go MGTOW or see prossies than be a beta bucks to a woman that handled more weiners than a hot dog stand worker.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/20 02:34 AM
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FDS gals are extremely broken emotionally because of a multitude of bad dating experiences from the carousel. Even if they get the perfect man, they’re too emotionally jaded and have too much baggage to stay happy long term. They’ll divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/20 11:45 PM
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Patiently awaits the hamster wheel responses 🍿
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/20 03:20 PM
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They want to be able to share Chads in their 20s, while still maintaining the safety net of men in their age group who they rejected for when they’re ready to get married later on. They expect these rejected men to hold their dicks in their hands, then when these thots are finally ReadyToSettleDownTM , they expect these same men they rejected to wife them up, although they offer nothing except depreciating looks, fertility, and a pre-owned pussy with semen residue. Why would these men who didn’t…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/08/20 02:58 PM
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Hamster go brrrr
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/08/20 02:54 PM
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They probably also did it because they’re afraid their sub gets banned from Reddit like gendercritical
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/20 12:24 PM
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Most women cannot find equals, even if they were to choose to date evenly. Most women are delusional and falsely believe that their SMV is higher than it actually is. Fixed that for ya.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/20 02:14 AM
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This post is bait for people to be banned. The only effective responses to this CMV will break the rules. Y’all know which one. Participate at your own risk.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 12:15 PM
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So they’re claiming outcome1 causes outcome2 The n-count studies don’t claim that. Not sure how or why you interpreted it that way. when both outcomes are from the same cause. Correct. The studies say that high n men and women cheat more. Both the high n and the cheating are caused by something else, but it doesn’t change the fact that they cheat more The people who reported cheating, reported more sex partners. The people who reported less/no cheating, reported less sex partners. It’s that simp…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 03:13 AM
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use rational logic . Obviously the “n-count” study is a classic example of a made up study to push an agenda Pick one. You can’t be advising people to use rational logic and then in the same breath say that n-count studies are “made up” to push an agenda.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 02:27 AM
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Huh? It’s the opposite. Redpillers provide reliable sources that completely shatter blue pill views and then the blues, in denial, proceed to ramble about “causation” and ice cream. Show me one example of a study cited by blues that reds “won’t accept”
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 02:16 AM
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the sample size was 200 people The sample sizes used in peer reviewed studies are sufficient to yield accurate estimates of the entire population. That’s literally statistics 101, like first day of first year stats in college not geographically representative Only for studies that hurts feelings. See point above. For studies that fit certain narratives, this wouldn’t be a point brought up. the study author writes in the conclusion “further research is needed to be done to determine whether this …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 09:27 PM
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We both know what you’re trying to do here. Any rational person reading will see that you have no point. Women are grasping at straws because they don’t like the results of certain studies. You’re trying to argue that: If an author, Greg Williams, PhD did a study and states in the results that “2% of all people currently have Covid” and I cite that: “2% of all people currently have covid” - Greg Williams, PhD , plus link to source of study ....that I’m misinterpreting the study. Ridiculous. Not …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 08:39 PM
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Insofar as the person citing the study is quoting the exact words of the researchers/authors of that given study, all of those questions are irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 01:05 PM
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90% of the population does not understand how and why research is done and that unless you're reading the journal articles themselves, you're reading an interpretation of the research written by a person who is not a researcher. I realize what you’re trying to do here. The people citing these studies are using direct verbatim quotes from the authors in said study. No one is messing up any interpretation if they’re directly quoting from the study. The problem is that, many people (especially wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 08:56 AM
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The book "Sex at Dusk" was written by people actually working in the evopsych field because "Sex at Dawn" is propaganda that misrepresents and distorts the field to push an agenda. It's sensationalist garbage. Sorry. https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/147470491201000316
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 01:53 AM
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Women do care about men going MGTOW and adopting TRP, though they will never admit this. There are roughly an equal number of men and women in the world. If xx% of men drop out of marriage by going MGTOW, that means xx% of women go without a husband when they’re ready to settle down. Every man that drops out is one less husband for a given woman, LITERALLY. Why do you think women hate on TRP and MGTOW so much? All women subconsciously know what I typed above, and it manifests itself with them ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 09:39 PM
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That’s completely irrelevant
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 09:19 PM
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Being fat is a choice. Most fat women were fat even years before the pandemic when they had access to a gym. It’s a choice that they are fat, it’s not a choice to be laid off; you cannot equate the two.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 06:06 AM
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Lack of access to a gym doesn’t automatically make one fat. Lack of self control does. Losing weight is at least 80% diet and cutting calories.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 05:52 AM
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But sure, make this a debate about semantics instead 🙄 That’s exactly what you did with your comment, which I will quote below. The projection is real. You said: The meta-analysis outlines women's preferences, not their behaviors. It was a futile attempt grasping at straws. Do you think the researchers would outline the dual mating strategy the way they did if most women didn’t actually engage in those behaviours ?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 05:40 AM
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You’re equating a man losing his job due to being laid off during a pandemic to a chick stuffing her face because she has zero self control. I-
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 05:38 AM
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Joblessness for men = fatness in women Fatness is a choice. She could stop stuffing her face with twinkies. You can’t equate the two
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 04:00 AM
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Yeah, disingenuously subdivide everyone into infinite groups.. that way no general statement can ever be made about anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 01:37 PM
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Before we dive deeper, you realize that, since 2014, followup studies have shown mixed (ie., not reproducible) results? A meta analysis of many studies reaching the same result is stronger and more credible than one single study showing a “mixed” result. The meta-analysis outlines women's preferences, not their behaviors. Are you actually being serious with this statement? The meta analysis outlines women’s behaviours, actions and preferences, all of which are the same. What are you even trying …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 08:40 AM
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Here’s your proof. Read the UCLA researchers meta analysis on women’s dual mating strategy (coined “AFBB” by TRP): UCLA researchers analyzed dozens of published and unpublished studies on how women’s preferences for mates change throughout the menstrual cycle. Their findings suggest that ovulating women have evolved to prefer mates who display sexy traits – such as a masculine body type and facial features, dominant behavior and certain scents – but not traits typically desired in long-term mate…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 07:44 AM
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What kind of proof do you want that TRP works? A study? Then when a study is presented, you will then screech “correlation doesn’t equal causation” — then start rambling about ice cream? Anything presented in favour of TRP will always be disingenuously “explained away” by TRPs detractors.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 07:03 AM
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Yes one dumb bitches Twitter post totally invalidates everything One post on twitter that coincides with reality vs one post on PPD that is the opposite of reality
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 02:13 AM
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I've been saying this since forever. A hookup/ONS is just a relationship that never got off the ground. That’s assuming that ALL people having casual sex only do so to get relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 02:12 AM
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Oh, so it’s women’s fault that we’re better at hiding our selfish desires for the benefit of social harmony women’s mating strategy, is it? FTFY.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 11:43 PM
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Majority of men, even the ones in the sexlessness stats, will find a girlfriend/wife in their 30s. The sexlessness stats decreasing for men in their 30s, as well as TRP theory confirms this. 30+ year old women settling for men they wouldn’t give the time of day during their 20s doesn’t count. The only sex that counts in modern society is sex a man gets in his 20s.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 06:56 PM
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Yep. Women just want a wedding; not marriage
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/08/20 11:07 AM
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Potayto potahto You just used the more politically correct euphemism
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 03:31 AM
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Indeed its downright degrading. You know what’s more degrading? A man wifing multiple sluts throughout the course of his life and having all of them cheat on him and some of them divorce rape him. This is even worse for a man that identifies as Red Pill but is acting like a Blue Pill AFC (average frustrated chump) by doing what I described above, since he has the keys to be successful but doesn’t use them. A man that does that is literally going against every RP doctrine that warns him about the…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 01:34 AM
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So cock mileage... Less cock mileage means she’s more pleasant to be around, is less jaded and won’t break up on a whim because something he did reminded her of some asshole in her past. This is a win for the man. Why would a man go for a woman with more mileage?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 01:32 AM
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If it’s not a study about lookism or jawlines... then it’s not incel. Blackpill believes most of the red pill theories about women’s nature, so there could be some “overlap” in the studies they have there. But blackpill takes it a step too far with the jawline and similar bullshit. A below average looking asshole who is charismatic with asshole-like tendencies will do better with women than a handsome looking nice guy. Seen it with my own eyes. It’s nice guy traits and lack of charisma that turn…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 01:16 AM
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life experience You mean less cock mileage and emotional baggage?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 08:53 PM
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Most definitely.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen22/08/20 07:40 PM
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Also doesn’t count if it was a one night stand, or if I didn’t care about him, or if I was drunk, or if I didn’t know the guys name, or if I stopped seeing him before the 1/2/3 month mark or if.... https://imgur.com/HyVX4Ms
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen22/08/20 11:29 AM
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I’m not maternal, I’m good at making them ;) not feeding them. I’m guessing your son was unplanned
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen22/08/20 11:25 AM
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“Their studies” No one owns studies, except the author. The studies that redpillers use come from google scholar. Red pillers can’t control the fact that incels also have some of the same studies on their blackpill website.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 07:06 AM
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No, guy is looking to pump and dump a 42-year-old WallSPLAT
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen22/08/20 04:30 AM
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It just goes to show you how much they hate men who don’t get laid, while thinking highly of men who do get laid. The difference in type of insults and vitriol confirms this. Basically the same disgust women feel about incels/virgins is the same disgust men feel about the thought of committing to sluts. Note that men don’t feel that same disgust about women who are virgins. It’s almost as if... men and women are different.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 12:24 AM
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So we should trust your “analysis” more than the actual qualified scientists on the matter?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 12:19 AM
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It’s right in the abstract. https://ibb.co/Qjv8sXd https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/1340040/
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 12:07 AM
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The results of this study is that when not hooked up to lie detectors, women report a lower number of sexual partners than when they are hooked up to a lie detector. This means that they are lying about their n-count.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 09:17 PM
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I'm a true believer that N count doesn't really matter It matters
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 09:14 PM
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All the studies contained in all those links show that women lie about their n count. Anyone who checks them will see that this is true. Edit: “underreporting” is lying
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 07:40 PM
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In fact I've never worn a condom a day in my life. Sir 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 02:56 PM
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Mind games targeting the 80/20 rule. Never have any counter data (besides those that are misquoted ofc). It baffles me the way how blues say absolutely nothing in 3 or more paragraphs in an attempt to explain away hard facts. They have a way with words, I give them that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 02:46 PM
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And he gets to fuck those guys wives. Doesn’t matter. If other men are fucking your wife, then that man is a cuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 02:39 PM
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I was mostly correcting this blatant misinformation: That has been proven as statistically significant for men only (in the studies I’ve seen). The studies claim that women’s lies are more significant than men’s.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 02:38 PM
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PDF of full study here
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 02:34 PM
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Yep, because these (high-n) women also become desperate after a certain age.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 02:29 PM
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Right? I've never understood why a woman would lie about their N count to a guy? Like congrats girl, you got to date a man with a fundementally different and incompatible world view to you champ, good job. If women actually believed what she just wrote, they wouldn’t lie through their teeth about their n-counts.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 02:23 PM
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Dudes who care about N counts and high n count women are in two separate dating pools. The only men in the (long term) dating pool of high n-count women are desperate men who take what they can get
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 02:21 PM
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In the bogus pipeline condition, which encouraged honesty rather than social desirability, women actually reported more sexual partners than did men. That’s the point. When women thought they were hooked up to a lie detector, the number of sexual partners that they reported was much higher than when they weren’t hooked up to said lie detector. On the other hand, men’s answers didn’t really change that much when hooked up to a lie detector vs when not hooked up to said lie detector Which means th…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 02:20 PM
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Does he like it tho? That’s the point. He likes his wife fucking other men and “doesn’t care about n counts”; so why should normal men take his advice and opinions seriously?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 02:14 PM
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But on the flip side when guys here say they don't care about their partners n count you get a bunch of terpers calling him a cuck There’s one guy like this here who is literally a cuck; his wife fucks other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 01:58 PM
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I’m not seeing that, it only shows the raw data. There’s no filter or percentage like what you are claiming https://ibb.co/MkcbcLL
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 01:20 PM
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The “charts” in the OP are not from the GSS site. It’s something she created on her own. How do we know what numbers she even put in them? Are you more willing to trust Jamanetwork or a random redditor that likely has an agenda?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 01:12 PM
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There’s no way for us to verify that the numbers you put in your “charts” are the same numbers in the raw GSS data.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 12:52 PM
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It's not as dramatic as what you or men are making out IMO. See here: https://imgur.com/nZ9TMIs This is not an actual screenshot from GSS; it’s something OP “created” on her own. So we don’t even know what she put in them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 12:37 PM
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Those “charts” in your imgur link, did you directly screenshot those charts from the GSS site? Or did you “use” the GSS data and create the charts on your own? The charts in your imgur links are not located on the website. And you are stating that women’s underreported n counts are not “statistically significant” when every study we have tells us the opposite. The fact that you are disingenuously spreading blatant misinformation about women underreporting n counts, how do we know you’re not doin…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 12:35 PM
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Nope. It’s actually the opposite of what you are saying. Results indicated that male participants reported similar sexual behaviors in all three conditions, but that female participants reported significantly more sexual behaviors in the bogus pipeline condition than in either of the other conditions. This suggests that women, but not men, may underreport their sexual experience in self-report questionnaires. Petersen, Jennifer L., and Janet Shibley Hyde. Gender differences in sexual attitudes a…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 11:46 AM
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To your point about women lying, the only studies I’ve read on this topic show that only men exaggerate their numbers. The single study I’ve seen TRP share was not statistically significant for women, only for men. Nonsense, and you knew that what you typed out is nonsense. There are plenty of studies showing that women lie about their n count. https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11199-013-0266-3 http://gss.norc.org/Documents/reports/methodological-reports/MR068.pdf https://pubmed.ncbi.nl…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 11:10 AM
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Women love to disguise their sluttyness behind more casual words. This
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/08/20 05:00 AM
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Ok
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/20 03:31 AM
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The most detrimental thing a man could do for his dating/sex life is to use advice given to him by a woman. However, there is one caveat. The type of men that women constantly complain about is the type of man you should strive to become.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/20 03:26 AM
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The number of reported rape cases was 73 per 100,000 citizens in 2017, up 24% in the past decade.[14] Official numbers show that the incidence of sexual offences is on the rise; https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_in_Sweden You incels simply need to stop making excuses I’m the furthest thing from an incel. Only a fool would not notice the obvious societal disadvantages that have arisen and will continue to arise from the sexual revolution.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 09:58 PM
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See, a woman's smv is her rmv. This kind of thinking is the problem with the modern SMP
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 03:42 PM
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So ethics aren’t shit now? The men with ethics are “pretending” — that’s why they go for men without
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 04:29 AM
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Why are the men absent? Because women are choosing to share a small percentage of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 04:17 AM
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You have no idea what you’re talking about. See Sweden. Further more, we have yet to see the full results of an entire generation of Gen A (and the gen after that) — the majority of whom are born/ will be born to single mothers. Every study we have on the matter says that kids born to single mothers commit more crime. That’s what the future holds.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 04:11 AM
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Compare stats for single motherhood and crime before and after the sexual revolution in those countries
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 04:07 AM
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Women’s rational thinking and “rules” go out the window in the presence of high value men. The high value men would still win, just as they are now.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 03:42 AM
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“Stable civilization”??? Really. Tell that to Sweden, Australia, New Zealand, Denmark, Norway, Germany, Finland and Canada. All those countries were built through partriarchy and socially enforced monogamy. However, since moving towards sexual liberation, all those countries have been declining. Those countries were at their peak before the sexual revolution
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 03:39 AM
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She never had a boyfriend, I doubt she’s a virgin, which means she’s only ever been a side piece cum dumpster for Chads That’s fucking HILARIOUS. If the men you’re fucking won’t commit, it means they’re above your league, hun.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/08/20 02:49 AM
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She's objectively attractive. She has the quintessential physcial and social type that American men want to snag. Plastic surgery. And lots of makeup.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 10:50 PM
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Ma’am, this is an Arby’s
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 08:10 PM
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That’s the point. Look at the negative consequences progressively increasing as we move further and further to full sexual liberation.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 08:05 PM
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I literally just explained to you the situation in Mosuo vs advanced western societies built by different ideals. Compare western society before and after sexual liberation. We now have a single mother epidemic, as explained by the other poster, and children born of single mothers end up criminals. Don’t you see how this is bad for society? Why are you being wilfully blind to the truth? I know you get it deep down.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 07:45 PM
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You know I’m right, which explains the snark.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 07:37 PM
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We are not actually fully sexually liberated. In order for that to happen we would need to see a world without negative stigma around sex. Which proves that a society doesn’t even have to be fully sexually liberated for it to yield negative consequences on a society...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 07:35 PM
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They're not here to debate and very often get offended and angry when you suggest they should back up their points with evidence. Just like the women on PPD When you respond with real life evidence showing their arguments and beliefs are misinformed, they don't defend their arguments but resort to personal attacks Just like the women on PPD They are completely unaware of their own cognitive dissonance, confirmation bias and solipsism. Just like the women on PPD Who knew women and incels had so m…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 07:24 PM
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Before in human history. You’re doubling down on misunderstanding his statement. Slowly, word by word, read it again.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 06:31 PM
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Lmao. Re-read his comment again. Are you hungover or something ?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 06:30 PM
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You are grossly misunderstanding his statement. Re-read it again, slowly. https://reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/iawy19/_/g1r84hp/?context=1
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 06:29 PM
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Do you even know history?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 06:23 PM
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How do we know what was tried before ‘human history’? By reading history books, try it sometime.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 06:22 PM
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FWIW, unlimited sexual liberty has been tried before in human history. It was never found conducive to stable civilization. This.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 06:11 PM
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This post is bait for commenters to be banned with “incel content” or “incel adjacent content”
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 06:03 PM
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Why didn’t you just reply instead of making this whole shabang here
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 08:34 AM
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That’s an oxymoron
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 08:31 AM
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are you aware she's in her 40s ? That’s the point. His comment wouldn’t really make sense if she was young. It makes sense because she is old.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 07:50 AM
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I wish many of these older spinsters remain perpetually a walking fleshlight to chads but.. alas, you are all going to inevitably play that dual mating manipulation to rope in poor betas This.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 07:49 AM
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All you did was add that they try to sell men on the fact that they’re not like other girls. Fair addition. Point taken and I agree. Unless you’re saying that high n women arent low RMV.. in which case... LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/20 11:12 PM
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a low RMV woman We’re arguing the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/20 10:56 PM
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That's like asking why two addicts don't date each other as opposed to dating an enabler. Because two addicts will destroy each other a lot faster The opposites feed each other, the same repels. The women on this sub love to say “like attracts like” in response to high n women and high n men. (They do this as a C word that rhymes with soap) Why not the same thinking for drug addicts too?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/20 10:22 PM
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My personal anecdotes also confirms this, but this sub hates those.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/20 10:20 PM
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That’s not what a pickmeisha is. A pickmeisha is a cock carousel rider trying to exchange sex coins for commitment with (high value) men, and failing often.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/20 09:59 PM
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This is what ends up happening around age 30 tbh. CC riders (high-n) and male betas (low-n) pair up because both are the bottom of the barrel of the female and male gender respectively CC riders are passed over for male commitment from the high value men they had casual sex with during their 20s, so they’re forced to settle for a male beta that they didn’t previously consider. Male betas just take what they can get. A quick glance at r.Relationship_Advice confirms this.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/20 09:57 PM
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Well what you have to remember is correlation does not equal causation... 👀👀 😂😂 I couldn’t even type that with a straight face tbh. How do blues do that?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/20 09:56 PM
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She’s had one too many Big Macs
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen15/08/20 10:28 AM
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True, he’s kinda dumb
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 11:41 AM
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Ohhh
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 11:38 AM
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let get to know more about each other better Women often complain that men don’t show interest in them as a person
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 11:38 AM
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Or he just lies a lot He’s talking about factual n-counts.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 09:03 AM
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pretending Women rationalize their innate disdain for nice/respectful men by hamstering that these men were only “pretending” in order to justify their pursuit of men who aren’t as nice/respectful. It’s a defence mechanism because deep down they hate the fact that they prefer men that don’t treat them well.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/20 10:22 PM
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why lol ??? He made the blue pill mistake of being respectful. Women will confirm the red pill for you if you let them talk long enough
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/20 09:17 PM
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The causation is irrelevant to the screening process
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/20 12:33 PM
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I don’t know (nor care) what caused the cheating, but I do know that a very large percentage of high n count women cheat; so yes, we do know the odds. Thus, by avoiding high n-count women (insofar as LTRs are concerned), one can minimize the risk of infidelity. The people in the studies who reported cheating, reported more sexual partners. The people who reported less/no cheating, reported less/no sexual partners. It’s that simple I won’t be investigating whether one particular slut is the excep…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/20 12:32 PM
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I can only assume your getting none hence the anxiety about others fucking. Top tier men having casual sex don’t want to LTR the loose sluts they are plating either. That’s the #1 reason why women get fuckzoned, though they are never told the real reason. We bullshit women when fuckzoning just like women do to us when friendzoning. 99% of the time, women are fuckzoned because the man estimates that she has a high n count. The notion that only “men who don’t get any” care about n count is somethi…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/20 10:27 AM
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I see what you’re trying to say but it doesn’t work that way for cheating. In a heterosexual relationship, there are two people who made a commitment. If they break it, then they go into the cheating statistic If all the women cheated with single men, and none of the men in the relationships cheated, then the rate of cheating would be 100% for women and 0% for men. Similarly, if all the men cheated with single women and none of the women in the relationships cheated, then the rate of cheating wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/20 10:21 AM
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As said by u.MerryVegetableGarden: “A reasonable analogy is this: I’m playing Russian Roulette where if I win, I get a decent prize. Obviously losing means dying. Commitment to a high-n girl is like loading 3 bullets in the revolver. Commitment to a low-to-no-n girl is akin to loading one in the chamber. I decide to play because I want that prize, which should be the same regardless of whether I load the revolver with one or three bullets. Your reasoning is that because the possibility that I’ll…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/20 10:08 AM
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When she cheats (notice how I said when), he’s going to remember the guy from Reddit that sent him the infidelity studies 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/20 09:28 AM
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Basically, those studies, the wayethis sub uses them, are pseudoscience Because the results of the studies goes against your narrative and you dislike these results. If the study had the opposite results, and I cited it, you wouldn’t be here spouting this drivel about pseudoscience and “CoRrEllAtiOn dOeSnT eQuAl CaUsAtiOn”
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/20 09:06 AM
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The problem being, they are about correlations, you need causation for the black pill conclusions. “If I am choosing an apple from a barrel full of red and green apples and I know that 50% of the red apples are rotted but only 10% of the green apples are rotted, the apples may not be rotten because they are red, but I should still choose a green apple.” u.SeemedGood
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/20 09:03 AM
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The fact that high n count women cheat way more than low n count women is as scientifically certain as the hotness of a fire.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/20 01:02 AM
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That’s not the topic of discussion. Every man can improve and start getting laid
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/20 12:49 AM
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Whether or not a person consciously believes that sticking their hand in a fire will burn them, it’s still gonna burn like hell
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/20 12:47 AM
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Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/20 12:36 AM
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You’re shifting the goal posts yet again. I know you see the point I’m making.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/20 12:36 AM
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You filter and exclude undesirables based on the studies, then analyze their individual character after.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/20 12:13 AM
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Stats are only “meaningless” if it doesn’t fit the narrative of the person in question. Every logical person knows that stats are more accurate and objective than our anecdotal experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/20 11:51 PM
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small sample sizes The sample sizes used in studies are sufficient to yield statistical percentages that make accurate representations of the population at large
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/20 11:48 PM
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The divorce and n count studies are very reflective of the real world. It’s an unpleasant truth, but a truth nonetheless. I understand the self serving reasons why women are against them. However, a man would be a fool not to use these stats to make informed decisions in his dating life.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/20 11:42 PM
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For every man able to and having causal sex, there are 5 women chasing him; only one can marry him. The other 4 women settle for a man with lower n-count than her.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/20 11:35 PM
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I think most commonly high sociosexuality women end up with higj sociosrxuality men For every high value man having casual sex, there are 5 women chasing him. Only 1 can marry him; the other 4 settle for a beta with lower n than she does.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/20 11:14 PM
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You’re pretty red atlas. You should at least agree that more women have high n counts than men
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/20 10:24 PM
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How do they make themselves look pure? They volunteer little white lies that make it seem like their n-count is lower than it actually is. So the man falsely assumes that she has a low n count and he doesn’t even think to ask her real number.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/20 10:15 PM
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Women here love to act like the scenario of high-n women settling for low-n men isn’t common; but this is literally the most common form of LTR/marriage. A larger percentage of women than men have high n counts. It’s common sense and basic math. Take a woman and man at random, the woman will have a higher n count 9 times out of 10
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/20 10:09 PM
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I shot him my trademarked copypasta just as a heads up and he responded that it made him very upset. The blue pilled masses hate unpleasant truths. They’d rather delude themselves that this is not the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/20 10:07 PM
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Didn’t say there was anything wrong with it. I like the brutal honesty. It’s better than the blatant gaslighting in threads like this
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/20 04:07 PM
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That man has a chance for love now. If he chooses to be bitter and alone that is up to him. Women like that don’t love the men they settle for at the end of the carousel. Those men end up getting cheated on and become victims of paternity fraud without knowing it. Bless their hearts
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/20 04:06 PM
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If a man faces rejection from hundreds of women in his age group during his twenties, then suddenly when he hits his early 30s, he starts to get interest from a few women in that same age group, it’s safe to assume they would have rejected him 10 years before. Even the woman at the office. If he looks into the past of the woman at the office and sees the contrast between the men that she used to date, he will see that she would have rejected him a few years before. We both know this is true.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/20 06:38 AM
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For every fratboy, there are five sorority sluts chasing him. Surely you see that all 5 of these women can’t marry the fratboy. Sure, the best looking sluts will marry a fratboy , but the point is that most sluts settle for men who they wouldn’t have given the time of day a decade prior. And my experience tells me that men with the most experience don’t settle down with sluts, because they know first hand why it’s a bad idea. I literally am living it
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/20 01:47 AM
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Actors and executives marry attractive wealthy women to consolidate wealth. However, give these actors and executives a choice between two identical wealthy women, and they will choose the one with a lower n count Moreover, the average Becky who slept around can’t pull that off. The exception doesn’t prove the rule
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/20 01:42 AM
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If I was posting comments consistent with your narrative, we wouldn’t be having this conversation and you know it
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/20 01:38 AM
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That’s a lot of words to say “yes, I’m triggered by an unpleasant truth posted”
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/20 01:24 AM
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Did I strike a nerve with an unpleasant truth?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/20 01:15 AM
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Except there was 1 Chad fratboy for every 5 fratboy chasing sororitute. Even if every fratboy marries a sororitute, there are plenty of sororitutes who don't have a matching Chad. This.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/20 01:12 AM
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First hand experience with high-n cheating women makes one wise.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/20 12:50 AM
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The men who willingly and knowingly wife a high n count woman and know for a fact that she’s high n are desperate betas with no other options; not top tier men with their pick of the litter.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/20 12:06 AM
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Her comment doesn’t match my experience Source: was in a frat. Men who sleep around know better than anyone else why promiscuous women are terrible choices for LTRs and marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/20 12:02 AM
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There are a very small percentage of top tier men that a large percentage of women have casual sex with during their 20s Simple math dictates that these men (less than 20%) cannot commit to the 80% of women when marriage time comes. This top 20% of men also only commit to top 20% of women (and thats if they commit at all) 60% of women, which is the majority, are forced to settle for a beta that they wouldn’t have pissed on during their youth.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/20 12:00 AM
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I see the opposite. If women actually believed that, they wouldn’t lie about their n counts
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 11:52 PM
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These Beta men need to learn their place as the ones that get the left-overs and have to pick up the check. Perfect example of Open Hypergamy. Rollo wasn’t kidding: As I wrote in Controlling Interests, the secrecy previously necessary for hypergamy and women’s pluralistic sexual strategy is rapidly being replaced with not just a new, overt, social openness about it, but a flaunting, triumphalism about how men are expected to embrace this new openness about it. Gentlemen, this is what women reall…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 11:51 PM
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The Chad fratboys who slayed during college all ultimately end up settling down and marrying the same sort of sorrorstitutes who partied with them. I find it comical that women actually believe this.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 11:46 PM
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Also, the implication that a lot of self-delusion goes on is exactly correct. This.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 06:42 PM
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This begs the question if a woman had her beauty and youth for a 100 years would her preferences change? Not until their beauty and youth start to decline at the end of 100 years. Proof of this is seen in the fact that women’s preferences magically “mature” in their early 30s which is the very moment when their beauty and youth start to decline. Women arguing against this is simply a form of gaslighting to serve women’s imperatives
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 06:25 PM
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Every single woman here has told you that what was attractive at 18 isn't at 30. Every woman here has also said that they are not attracted to assholes. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 06:04 PM
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Why should you get a low n-count woman if you aren’t also low n-count? So that I don’t become a victim of paternity fraud
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 05:41 PM
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You don’t think her priorities and preferences actually changed? If women’s good looks and fertility lasted till age 50, they’d spend ages 18-50 chasing top tier men out of their league and only settle for their looksmatch at age 50. The fact that women go into beta hunting mode around age 30, right at the moment when their looks and fertility start to decline, confirms this. So no, her preferences didn’t change, her options did.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 05:39 PM
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No they don’t. The younger generation of women cheat more than men. Only boomer and Gen x men cheat more than women
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 10:07 AM
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Since 1990, notes the psychoanalyst and writer, the rate of married women who report they’ve been unfaithful has increased by 40 percent, while the rate among men has remained the same. More women than ever are cheating, she tells us Source: https://www.thecut.com/2017/09/why-women-cheat-esther-perel-state-of-affairs.html And regarding Gen z, whatever. The current 18-29 year old cohort comprises of both milennial and Gen z.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 10:01 AM
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Statistically men have always proven to have cheat more, so I don't know where you get your facts from. Nope. Millennial and Gen Z women cheat more than their male counterparts: However, as the figure above indicates, this gender gap varies by age. Among ever-married adults ages 18 to 29, women are more likely than men to be guilty of infidelity Source: https://ifstudies.org/blog/who-cheats-more-the-demographics-of-cheating-in-america
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 09:55 AM
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It’s a sign of low value when a woman has a high n-count
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 09:52 AM
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Lmao ikr. Yo, the women in this sub are so butthurt, they downvote bombed the FUCK out of my comment because it must have struck a nerve or something
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 09:42 AM
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That means that only half of women are marriageable. Plus, women underreport their n counts.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 09:09 AM
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So you're hypocrites complaining about women while doing the exact same thing. No different than women who suddenly decide that they’ve “matured” and are forced to settle for a different (read: lower) caliber of man than the ones they had casual sex with during their 20s
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 09:06 AM
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Then.... why do they keep complaining about N-counts in this subreddit? Because we want to get married one day... to a different kind of woman than the ones we had casual sex with.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 09:03 AM
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You’ve already posted them yourself. You’re familiar with the mean n counts of men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 09:03 AM
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The average n-count is 7, correct? Too high for marriage
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 09:01 AM
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Except these particular guys want these two things at the same time from the same people. No. RP doesn’t care about the n-count of plates and FWBs
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 08:59 AM
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Even outside of those places you listed, the n-count of the average western woman is still too high to be deemed worthy of marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 08:52 AM
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Different women for different purposes at different stages of life. Promiscuous women for short term flings, and virtuous low n-count women when it’s time to get married and start a family It’s no different than a woman who sleeps with alphas during her youth then when the WALLSPLAT hits, she settles for a beta whom she wouldn’t have pissed on previously.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 08:26 AM
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This makes sense. But what does this have to do with the title of the post? Only women are allowed to have standards; men aren’t. Men should only act in ways that benefit the feminine imperative with no concern for what’s best for him /s
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 03:46 AM
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It’s comedy hour on PPD 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 02:58 AM
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Are breadwinner wives emasculating or a threat to stability? No.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 01:26 AM
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I’m saying that women don’t generally want men who earn less
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 01:10 AM
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The problem is that women want men who earn more than them, even though women are earning so much more these days. This creates obvious problems with women finding partners they deem suitable since there are a lower percentage of men earning more than women than in the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 01:07 AM
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“Photoshopped” because it conflicts with your narrative. It’s real whether you want to accept it or not. Physical attractiveness is genes. If an unattractive male got plastic surgery and went from a 4 to an 8, you’d be saying the same thing. You wouldn’t count him as an 8 nor have kids with him knowing he’s an ugly troll underneath the plastic surgery, just like Tomi lahren
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/20 12:13 PM
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u/c_dolly
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/20 11:36 AM
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LOL again at the dudes on that thread calling her a 6 or 7. Yes, plastic surgery as well as makeup does wonders. How she looks now is not representative of her genetic attractiveness. https://wikiabio.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/images-25.jpeg https://m.imgur.com/a/OUnaFSP
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/20 11:34 AM
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Preselection is proven through studies: Used women’s perception of other women’s assessments of partner’s attractiveness. Other women’s attraction mediates women’s orgasm and partner’s attractiveness. The results indicate that women mated to more (vs. less) attractive men are more likely to report orgasm at last copulation, and this relationship is mediated by women’s perceptions of other women’s assessments of their partner’s attractiveness. Sela, Yael, et al. Female copulatory orgasm and male …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/20 08:50 AM
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When looking for a committed relationship/marriage, men don’t want to commit to high-n women nor women with psychological issues For flings/FWBs, this doesn’t matter though
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/20 09:07 AM
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All I know is that, the overwhemingly majority of women who have casual sex are depressed. Sure, there are depressed people who don’t have casual sex, but that’s not the topic of discussion
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/20 08:31 AM
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It’s irrelevant because the study tells us that the majority of the women who do engage in casual sex suffer from depression, while majority of the women who dont engage in casual sex don’t suffer from depression. Do I know what caused it? Nope. But I do know that the overwhemingly majority of women who sleep around are nut cases. The women who sleep around who aren’t nut cases are the exception.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/20 06:46 AM
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Women here already admit that they, as well as women in general, deliberately lie and gaslight by giving bad dating advice to men, as well as lie to men in general about sexual dynamics, in order to serve the feminine imperative. The cat is already out of the bag.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/20 06:14 AM
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If I had to choose between a former sex worker and a slut... I would choose the sex worker every time. This. I have more respect for whores than sluts. (Although I must stress that this is purely hypothetical and that no man should ever wife a slut nor a whore)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/20 08:25 PM
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how do you sleep at night playing with fire like that ?!??! With the fan on medium.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/20 06:55 AM
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I tend to use them the first time I have sex with a woman, but if not if we keep having sex. Even the women that ask me to use a condom the first time we have sex are always eager to go without it the second time (and every time after that) Most don’t even ask to put it on the first time. It’s only here on PPD that I hear the women saying they “always” use condoms with hookups and FWBs; sometimes I wonder if they’re lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/20 05:40 AM
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It’s because genuinely attractive women (without makeup) do not have to use casual sex in an attempt to lure top tier men into commitment; they have top tier men offering them commitment left and right. On the other hand, average and below average women take the “ill fuck my way to a relationship” route, usually with men above their league, and fail over and over again; thus, they rack up quite the n-counts
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 11:03 PM
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Fair
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 04:35 AM
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When I say rejected, I also mean a woman who would have rejected the man in question a decade prior
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 04:30 AM
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As long as its not the same women rejecting, yes. If a particular man faced rejection from hundreds of women in his age group during his 20s, then suddenly when he’s in his 30s, he gets interest from a few women from that same age group, it’s safe to say the women giving him interest now would have rejected him a decade prior. Especially if you peruse the type of men in her dating history and realize the contrast.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 04:30 AM
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Punishment in SMP=Reward in RMP. This is a very loaded statement and I think I know what you’re trying to imply but I want to drag it out of you. Are you saying men should wait till after age 30 when women who previously rejected them are finally ready to take them off the shelf because they’ve “matured” ?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 03:58 AM
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You’re grasping at straws by attempting to employ semantic differences to obscure the facts present in the study. You yourself referred to a fuck buddy who failed to get you off the first time who then got you off the second time. The article describes an anecdote of a woman who had a fuckbuddy who she hooked up with the first time, didn’t get an orgasm, hooked up the same guy a second time, and still didn’t get an orgasm. It’s literally the same thing. Whether you want to call it hookup partner…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 11:12 PM
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Your article is about HOOK UP'S Not FUCK BUDDIES. The article encompasses all non committed causal sex relationships , and has studies in it that support my claim that “high sex drive” women that do causal sex have less orgasms than the “low sex drive” women only having sex in LTRs. Notice the quotations around high sex drive and low sex drive; they are there for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 10:24 PM
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Just to find out if it’s a generational difference. What you’re describing does not describe reality among my male and female friends and acquaintances who hookup and have fuckbuddies. You don’t have to tell me an exact age, just an age range
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 10:18 PM
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How old are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 10:12 PM
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Correct
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 10:11 PM
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Yes, because they will always know the baby is theirs if a man cheats. With men, this is not the case
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 09:30 PM
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Women with regular, casual sexual partners DO orgasm - that is literally the point of them. No, most women don’t orgasm and you know it That’s women’s number one complaint of FWBs and hookups. So they’re not doing it to satiate their “sex drive.” https://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/11/11/women-find-orgasms-elusive-in-hookups/ My personal anecdote: I don’t go down on fuckbuddies because it’s gross to go down on women if they’re fucking other men in the same week. That may be the reason why. I wil…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 08:53 PM
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No it doesn't, they more likely got married and divorced the guy. Wishful thinking. See WhereAreAllTheGoodMen
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 08:41 PM
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For every high n women, there are multiple high n men. We both know that that’s not the case
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 02:42 PM
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How often do the women having casual sex even orgasm? We both know the answer. Thus, they’re not doing it to satisfy their “high sex drive”. They’re doing it because they like strange weiners, and for attention, validation and the hope of commitment. Terrible traits in a long term partner. One easy way for a woman to satisfy her actual sex drive when single: Use a vibrator and/or fingers. This is what virgins and low n count women do in between relationships to satisfy their sex drive. And they …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 02:37 PM
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Because they're looking for low N count women they're going to get women with low sex drives (which is hillarious) This is the kind of nonsense women spew in a futile attempt to try and eliminate quality women from the competition High sex drive does not equate to fucking many different men. There are plenty of women with a high sex drive who choose to have lots of sex, but only with one long term partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 02:20 PM
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There are more male sluts then female sluts No there aren’t. If you take a man and woman at random in a large city, we both know that the woman is likely to have a higher n count than the man.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 02:15 PM
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There aren’t enough man sluts to commit to all the female sluts on the CC. And many of the man sluts don’t commit at all Majority of sluts end up conning a beta who she wouldn’t piss on during her prime into a relationship by lying about her sexual history
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 02:13 PM
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They’re typically honest about their history, so I don’t understand your problem. No they’re not. That’s the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 02:11 PM
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They are less jaded and bitter due to less emotional baggage from past relationships/flings/ONS
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 08:49 AM
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Thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 08:45 AM
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Women aged 18-29 are the most attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 08:38 AM
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Because you have the guarantee of the milk you are getting, you also get meat, leather and bone in case of hunger. You also get the possibility of getting babies and raising longer supply of milk through a new generation of cattle. The only benefit from the cow is milk (sex). Men aren’t interested in the leather etc which you listed. It’s no secret that milk (sex) drops off in marriages. The best way to get good consistent milk is through casual sex. If you can’t do that, prossies and sugar babi…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 08:37 AM
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As long as a woman (factually) has a single digit n-count then I have no problems wifing her
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 05:23 AM
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The sharing is usually serial not concurrent. The sharing is concurrent. You think top tier men only have one FWB at a time? I’ve had more than one FWB concurrently and I’m not anything special. I have two friends who PPDers would consider very top tier, they have anywhere from 3-5 women in their rotation at a given time.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 03:30 AM
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Using the example of fucking 9 guys vs only 4, it fundamentally changes the risk of infidelity and divorce. That is pertinent information that a potential male partner needs to know Would you be okay if a man lies about wanting a relationship to con a woman into sex? That’s analogous to a woman lying about her n count to con a man into a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 02:35 AM
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Why the fuck would I want nudes from that wildebeest? Foh
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/08/20 01:52 AM
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For fat ugly women in 2020, their looksmatch is a Chad-lite. (at least in their mind) This delusional ham planet wouldn’t give her looksmatch the time of day. This is why the male rate of sexlessness is hovering around 30% while the female rate is non-existent.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/08/20 01:38 AM
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Uh huh. See r/whereareallthegoodmen
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 01:35 AM
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Whether they’re top men or not depends on who you ask. What I know for sure is, they’re fathered by men who fit women’s short term “yes, tingles” box
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 01:09 AM
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What you do see if you're being honest is women chosing to opt out and remain single and have children on their own. We’re saying the same thing. Potayto potahto. That’s just womanese vs blunt honesty. Unless you’re arguing that they’re using sperm donors
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 01:02 AM
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When a man is insecure in a relationship, it often results in a borderline emotionally abusive (if not full blown abuse) relationship. Hence the higher divorce rate for higher n-count women & women typically being the ones to leave those relationships. Lmfao 😂😂 what’s your “explanation” for the higher rates of infidelity among high n count women?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 12:03 AM
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It was made by a series of past choices, someone’s height was not. Correct
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 11:44 PM
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It seems straightforward to me that caring about n-counts stem from insecurities. Caring about n-counts stem from not wanting to be cheated on, cucked and divorced. Some authors defend that infidelity may come as a consequence of promiscuity, and that frequently both concepts go side by side (Feldman and Cauffman 1999, Mark et al. 2011). Promiscuity can be understood as the willingness to engage in sexual activities with several partners, have casual sex and get involved in sexual activities soo…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 11:44 PM
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I’ve said it before here my ex was a musician that probably had 100+ shamed me for my past promiscuity when we argued. So it’s not just incels that care about n count!!!!! Finally women admit it , instead of defaulting to that ridiculous argument that “only incels care” when their feelings are hurt. See u/PickleLine and u/satanic_hamster and u/merryvegetablegarden and u/thejim66
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 11:03 PM
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Majority of them have absent fathers which would indicate they were pumped and dumped
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 08:44 PM
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If they’re single mothers, it means the men didn’t commit. If the men didn’t commit, it’s because they have a rotation of women. If men have a rotation of women, it means that the sex distribution in society is not in a 1:1 ratio of men to women — but the overall population of men to women is a 1:1 ratio. There is a disparity, thus 80/20 rule. Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 08:21 PM
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Given the decline in marriage rate, it sounds like men are 'liberating' themselves from marriage more than ever before. Reasons for this: Why buy the cow if they give away the milk for free? (See sexual revolution) Majority of women are flocking to the top few men, so these men have their pick of the litter. So they have no reason to commit to any of them since they have multiple women giving them free sex. And if they do commit at all, it will only be to top tier women. And simple math dictates…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 08:18 PM
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Wow. This is just more irrefutable evidence of the 80/20 rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 08:09 PM
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over 50% of millennial births are to single mothers (40% overall) What are the single mother stats of previous female generations?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 08:04 PM
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Feminism was never about equality. It was about liberating women from their responsibilities to men while simultaneously maintaining male responsibilities to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 08:02 PM
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Except you can easily hide/lie about your n-count lmao. Not if you get her drunk and feign being sex positive and non judgmental. It has never failed me. Funny thing is, it’s the same women here who would think I’m one of the men who “don’t care about n count” because we laughed over drinks and shared stories
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 07:17 PM
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At this point, we don’t know which causes which, but we do know that having more partners goes hand in hand with having mental health issues As a result, we know that if someone has had lots of partners, more often than not they also have serious mental health issues too. So it’s a good proxy to recognize red flags in someone If someone has had less partners, more often than not, they don’t have any serious mental health issues. Because if the latter where true, there would be no incels. Agreed.…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 01:06 AM
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Resistance to answering the question... this one is fail safe in my opinion... I’ve noticed that the women that have higher n counts ALWAYS show resistance or try to give avoidant-type answers or no answers at all, or maybe a distorted answer (vs the straight up “my N count is X”) This.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/20 11:03 PM
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No man thinks that, and you haven’t provided any evidence that any men have ever said that. The most alpha thing a man could do is have sex with a woman who turned down all the men before him. Having sex with a woman who has fucked enough men to fill a room is not an achievement. Committing to a woman who had sex with enough men to fill a room is even worse — and that’s what will make you a laughing stock among men. The only people shaming men for wifing low n/virgin women are women with high n …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/20 10:47 PM
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That’s for each woman in question to decide. Anything you want to know from a potential partner, you ask him. If you don’t like the answer, move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/20 10:37 PM
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You can’t accurately judge a woman’s true attractiveness if they are wearing makeup. Princessangel and I are talking about genuinely beautiful women. Meaning women who roll out of bed barefaced and are a solid 10. Those women are very very rare, but they exist. Those are the women with low n counts. Not “insta baddies” with caked on makeup. Those women you are describing would be a 5 if you scraped off the makeup. These genuinely beautiful women are as rare as genuinely attractive men
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/20 10:35 PM
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You won’t be able to tell with any sort of reliability. The best way is to get her drunk, feign being non-judgemental and sex positive, and share stories. You’ll be in for a treat.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/20 10:30 PM
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They’re probably not 10+.(especially after scraping off makeup) Every study we have tells us that the more attractive a woman is, the lower her n count will be. It makes sense intuitively. They don’t have to use casual sex to get commitment, because (top tier) men are offering them commitment left and right. https://reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/c6mrnv/handsome_wants_as_handsome_does_physical/ Princessangel is correct
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/20 10:28 PM
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as much as I don’t wanna stigmatize Mental issues. 8/10 Bipolar women I met have n count of at least couple hundred. Your not “stigmatizing” anything. Facts are facts. Every study we have shows that increased number of sexual partners = more mental issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/20 10:26 PM
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No. And even if you’re right, there aren’t enough top tier men to commit to all of these women. They’d have to share them by being plates (which many of them do)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/20 05:59 PM
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Women are giving you advice on how to get into a real relationship. You mean giving advice to keep men (who aren’t naturals) in the beta paradigm for when women looks have declined “matured” and “tired of the games” at age 30
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/20 05:58 PM
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Better to have her angry than have her indifferent
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/20 05:50 PM
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All the man sluts I know IRL didn’t wife the types of women they usually plate (for the reasons I explained above). They didn’t wife nuns either. They wifed attractive low n women. My real world evidence contradicts yours. Please don’t cite celebrities who marry other celebrities to consolidate wealth...
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/20 05:49 PM
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https://imgur.com/a/VQtTYZI First guy and last guy are fat which makes them have way lower SMV than the girl, but the rest of the couples are pretty looksmatched. (After removing the women’s makeup) What you have to remember is that these women are wearing makeup. This artificially inflates their SMV and makes us think they’re more attractive than they actually are. Scrape of the makeup, and you would see how looksmatched most of those couples are.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/20 05:47 PM
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it all relies on self-reporting, which women under-report or don't count certain things to maintain their low numbers. I agree with you. I always take those studies with a grain of salt too. But intuitively it makes sense why a 10 would have taken less dicks than a 5 or 6. Because of hypergamy, there are less guys that a female 10 is willing to fuck (especially casually), and she wouldn’t have to use casual sex to achieve her female imperative
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/20 06:24 AM
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And proving to us time and time again why they absolutely hate men who are trying to up their game and not ruin their chad radar. Not only that— women also have a vested interest in betas remaining betas. Who else will be there to wife them up at age 32? Every man that adopts TRP/MGTOW is one less chump who will marry a post wall CC rider.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/20 01:48 AM
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Man sluts wife up woman sluts. Like attracts like Nope. Men with options choose not to wife sluts. Because they literally have the option not to. Man sluts know better than anyone else why promiscuous women are bad prospects for LTR and marriage. The only men wifing sluts are men who are desperate for a crumb of pussy, not men with their pick of the litter. Sluts = LVF ; similar to betas being LVM. No one commits to a female slut or a beta male if they have the option not to
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/20 01:44 AM
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Nope. Desperate men with no options who wife promiscuous women out of necessity end up getting cheated on. They don’t pass on their genes. The promiscuous women cheat on them with the very “slut shaming” men who refused to LTR them and kept them at plate level.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 04:59 PM
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“Insecure” In illustration of this, the odds ratio of 1.13 for lifetime sexual partners obtained with the face-to-face mode of interview indicates that the probability of infidelity increased by 13% for every additional lifetime sexual partner screenshot Regarding the correlates of infidelity, results indicated that on the basis of both methods of assessment, the probability of sexual infidelity increased with higher number of lifetime sexual partners Whisman, Mark A., and Douglas K. Snyder. Sex…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 04:23 PM
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Yep. Anything that doesn’t explicitly cater to the feminine imperative is deemed “evil” in soyciety. MGTOW going mainstream is the biggest threat to the feminine imperative, for obvious reasons.
/r/MGTOW01/08/20 06:47 AM
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The vast majority of men are totally oblivious to this, it's such an overhyped argument. “Simp” shaming and “she belongs to the streets” is now mainstream. It’s basically TRP in a nutshell.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 02:29 AM
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Pretty much. Women want the privileges of being a virgin without the responsibilities of being one.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/08/20 02:11 AM
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But what happens with the women (like me) who never slept around, who never actually took part in the hookup culture? u.taapy234 summed it up best: I think you got to realize that women like you are facing what economists call "free market failure” In the sexual marketplace (SMP) women have all the power in choosing who they want to have sex with. And women have consistently preferred top 20% of men for regular casual sex. So because of women's collective actions by putting more focus on their e…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 01:16 AM
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And just because girls don’t seem interested doesn’t mean they are playing hard to get. Maybe just maybe they’re aren’t interested... She’s not interested. The medium is the message
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 09:33 PM
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Teaching autists how to communicate ? Undoing autistic blue pill programming that dries pussy
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 08:09 PM
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I find it difficult to pin down what exactly RP believes. Read sidebar can you provide links to posts, articles, comments, threads, etc. which deeply resonate with you and you fully endorse? Talking with women - always DARE, never DEER
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 07:16 PM
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When women say “all men are xyz” — they’re literally referring to the top 20% of men. They bottom 80% doesn’t even register to them; they’re completely invisible, like background characters in a movie.
/r/MGTOW31/07/20 01:55 AM
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You should show this to her fiance
/r/MGTOW31/07/20 01:52 AM
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Smart men’s slutdar is to get her drunk, feign non judgement, volunteer stories, then she’ll open up about her slutty past. Then when she does, keep her at fwb level and she’s none the wiser to the reason why she can’t be upgraded to LTR level when she asks It’s never failed me. It’s funny because it’s the same women here who would think I’m one of those guys who “doesn’t care about n count” because we both shared slutty stories and laughed over drinks.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 09:08 PM
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Not based on how she acts at all. Women think so, but we can know if she’s putting on a show It’s not hard to estimate a woman’s n count. We’re not gonna ask a specific number, but there are ways to infer a rough ball park figure. Then we put her in the Madonna/whore box. (ie, Plate vs LTR)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 05:01 PM
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and has little basis or corrolation with actual n counts or such. If you want to believe that, then fine, but the only difference in whether we view a woman as Madonna or whore is if she’s a slut or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 03:34 PM
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Incorrect through and through The only difference between Madonna and whore is the number of sexual partners
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 02:49 PM
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Men might have a little bit a lot more testosterone that makes them a little bit a lot hornier. But really the differences are small large FTFY
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 02:48 PM
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Statistically insignificant. The fact of the matter is that women with more than 10 partners pose very very high risk of divorce and infidelity when compared to women in single digits
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 02:46 PM
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Out of curiosity, what do you think of studies like this
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 06:53 PM
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A hot-madonna is the male fantasy. This statement is based on the false premise that all hot women are sluts. This could not be further from the truth. Every study we have on the matter shows a negative correlation between the attractiveness of a woman and her n-count. That is, the more attractive a woman is, the lower her n count will be. This is because attractive women don’t have to use sex as a bargaining chip for commitment like less attractive women. The only difference between a “Madonna”…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 06:25 PM
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They will claim that they're "equally attracted" to the Madonna and the whore (false) You’re right. We view the whore/slut through a lens of disgust. We’re more attracted to the Madonna
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 06:15 PM
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True to every degree. What determines n-count is sociosexual orientation. Libido is a separate issue. A woman a restricted sociosexual orientation will have a low n count, regardless of whether her libido is high or low. A woman with an unrestricted sociosexual orientation will have a high n count, regardless of whether her libido is high or low. Approximately 50% of women are unrestricted and the other 50% are restricted The low risk averse-ness you described ties in with sociosexual orientatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 06:11 PM
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Institute for Family Studies (LDS, Utah) is not a reliable source for data. Here’s amother source that says that promiscuous women have lower marital stability, are less happy and more depressed than non promiscuous women https://imgur.com/t6sG2R6 Screenshot above comes from this study It’s not a rocket science that promiscuous women will have less stable marriages. We don’t even need a study to prove that. It’s a “DUH!”
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 04:02 PM
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Having a high n count is not indicative of high libido and having a low n count is not indicative of low libido.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 03:57 PM
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insecure If not wanting to get cheated on makes me “insecure”, then I never want to be “secure” Promiscuous women cheat way more than non promiscuous women : Individuals exhibiting sexually permissive attitudes and those who have had a high number of past sexual relationships are more likely to engage in infidelity (Feldman & Cauffman, 1999). In a study of supposedly exclusive dating couples, it was found that individuals exhibit- ing an ’unrestricted’ sociosexual orientation (SO) were significa…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 05:54 AM
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More likely to report cheating than women*
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 05:53 AM
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A woman hopping from man to man means she likes strange weiners; not sex
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 04:15 AM
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actually it seems this is probably a good metric to go by...if a woman whines about a quality she dislikes in men a lot, she probably likes that quality This.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/07/20 02:46 AM
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The WallSPLAT is gonna hit her like a ton of bricks. If she has trouble getting commitment NOW at 26, it’s only going to go downhill from here...
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/07/20 02:29 AM
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She’s batting a couple leagues too high. Women often conflate sex with commitment and don’t understand that men can and will plate women below their league for the easy sex, but will never be interested in a relationship with them. They project because women only sleep with men that they would consider being in an LTR with, so they assume that men are the same. Most women realize the distinction after being fuckzoned a couple times, but this one right here is a bit slow.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/07/20 02:24 AM
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marry a woman who's at best indifferent to sex and thus has a very low n-count. Not all women who have a low n-count are indifferent to sex. There are plenty of women who enjoy sex but choose to only have it in the confines of an LTR.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 01:44 AM
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“Only on Tuesday’s”
/r/askTRP29/07/20 01:18 AM
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The men on my level don’t seem interested Sweaty, if a certain caliber of man is not interested in you, then it means you are punching above your pay grade and are delusional about where your “level” actually is.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/07/20 01:09 AM
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it’s not seen as a good thing. Sure
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 12:51 AM
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In a closed population of heterosexual people, there are roughly an equal number of men and women. The mean number of partners has to be equal The only way men can report a higher number of partners than women is if someone is lying. All the studies we have on this topic indicate that women underreport and men overreport.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 12:17 AM
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Women still underreported their n counts in 2018, and they will underreport it in 2020, 2021 and forevermore And the article I linked is based on a reputable study published by Dr. Fisher
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/20 11:46 PM
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in fact statistically speaking more men than women have an n count that high. Lol no. https://www.abc.net.au/science/articles/2003/07/07/896698.htm
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/20 11:30 PM
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That website is a Christian agenda propaganda site On what grounds? Because you disagree with the findings?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/20 11:22 PM
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Do a little research, the more involved in religion a couple is the less likely they are to divorce. I The research also shows that when religion is held constant, high n women are more likely to divorce than low n women. This means that a non-religious woman with a body count of 3 is less likely to divorce her husband than a non-religious woman with a body count of 20.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/20 11:15 PM
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Nope, men are petrified of infidelity and paternity fraud, which is way more likely to happen with a promiscuous woman. The comment you linked is just the psychological reasoning and influences behind the reason why these high n women initiate divorces at higher rates than non-promiscuous women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/20 11:12 PM
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No prob.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/20 11:10 PM
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All of that is irrelevant to the fact that promiscuous women cheat and divorce at higher rates than non-promiscuous women, and every man can minimize the risk of infidelity/divorce by committing to non-promiscuous women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/20 10:49 PM
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We increase our chances of selecting good ones by avoiding the promiscuous ones since most promiscuous women cheat (the rotten red apples in the analogy) We vet by not committing to promiscuous women since they are statistically more likely to cheat and divorce. We won’t be wasting time figuring out if a particular promiscuous woman is an exception to the rule; just avoid them all together (insofar as LTRs are concerned)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/20 10:23 PM
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I took it out of mine so you can edit the lines out of your comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/20 10:19 PM
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Therefore the question you should be asking OP when you post these studies is — is it correlation or is it causation? Irrelevant to the decision making process. OP and the rest of the incelsphere will say it’s because sex damages women (but only sex with men she isn’t married to — apparently her bodily functions have evolved to respond to a diamond ring and a certificate on file at the courthouse) and/or only damaged women like sex No-one argues that sex damages women. It’s sex with multiple par…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/20 09:58 PM
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The instability is caused by a genetic sociosexuality in both men and women I’m aware. It is less correlated with men because they can't wrack up a high number in the same way women can. Incorrect. The implication of the study I cited is that — for a given high n-count (for example, 20) a man is less likely to divorce than a woman. A man is also likely to have higher marital satisfaction at that n-count than a woman. Thus, the difference is due to some other inherent evolutionary difference betw…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/20 09:31 PM
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The divorce rate for first marriages is well below 50% Nah, it’s 50% Also, the OPs source wasn’t saying that 80% of women have 16 partners or more— it was just saying that 80% of women with 16 partners or more will divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/20 09:16 PM
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Overall, our results suggest that the proportional split in males slightly favours an unrestricted (short-term) mating strategy, with a 57 : 43 split on average for the three datasets, whereas females have a reversed split (47 : 53). However, the mixing proportions in the 2D : 4D digit ratio dataset suggest that a slightly higher proportion of the unrestricted pheno- type is present in both sexes (males approx. 62%, females approx. 50%) Wlodarski, Rafael, John Manning, and R. I. M. Dunbar. Stay …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/20 09:03 PM
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Men are not equally at risk. Men and women are different: For women who had one extra sexual partner (for most, before marriage) only 64 percent were still married—a drop of 33 percent, which is twice the rate of men. For those women who had two sexual partners outside of marriage, only 55 percent were still married five years down the road. Men and Women in First Marriage by Number of Sexual Partners. Clearly, the more sexual partners an individual has, the less he/ she is capable to sustain ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/20 08:49 PM
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However, about 40 to 50 percent of married couples in the United States divorce. The divorce rate for subsequent marriages is even higher. https://www.apa.org/topics/divorce/
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/20 08:09 PM
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Like when people say those who marry as virgins have the lowest divorce rate it’s like DUH the main people doing that are uber religious Nope, the lower rates of divorce among virgin and low n-count women is solely because of n count. When you control for religiosity, low n count women are still less likely to divorce than high n count women In the following figure I controlled for respondents’ sex, race, family structure of origin, age at the time of the survey, education, religious tradition, …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/20 08:07 PM
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This is why high n women’s rate of divorce is higher than high n men’s rate of divorce. This is post worthy man. Make a post on this, especially in light of divorce rate stats showing that high n men are less affected by their high n (high n men don’t divorce as much because of their high body count — while high n women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/20 07:26 PM
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this article has more of the NSFG data, and shows that having exactly 2 partners was worse than having 10+ up until recently. Nah. It said that 2 partners was worse than 1. It has always been the case that women with 10+ partners have the highest rates of divorce
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/20 07:21 PM
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There are women who are promiscuous with no damage, According to the stats, those are few and far between. Most are damaged and it could be the case most of these women are fine. According to the stats, most promiscuous women are more depressed and less happy than non-promiscuous women. So no, they’re not fine https://imgur.com/t6sG2R6 https://reddit.com/r/UnpopularFacts/comments/hbpoml/casual_sex_is_linked_to_depression_and_poor/
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/20 07:16 PM
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This is what people are concerned about. As a man, I’m not concerned at all about the causation because it is irrelevant to the screening process. If in a given bowl, there are a higher percentage of rotten purple grapes than rotten green grapes, it doesn’t mean that the grapes are rotten because they are purple, but I should still pick a green grape
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/20 07:13 PM
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Promiscuous men also usually settle once they get too old to keep fucking lots of women, and also are vindictive and mean towards the woman they end up marrying Promiscuous men don’t settle. Men get far more at higher levels of commitment than women do. The tier of women that a man gets for casual sex is lower than the tier of women that a man gets for a relationship. On the other hand, the tier of men that a woman gets for casual sex is higher than the tier of man that a woman gets for a relati…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/20 07:11 PM
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If having a bunch of premarital partners means you're an 80% divorce risk, and the divorce rate is well below 80%, well, the math is quite simple. Well the divorce rate is ~50%, so that’s not too far off. Approximately 50% of women have an unrestricted sociosexual orientation (and subsequently a high n count as a result of that orientation) which coincides with the 50% divorce rate.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/20 07:08 PM
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Get the audiobook on audible
/r/askTRP28/07/20 04:33 PM
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Yes it does. I’m talking from experience
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/20 04:28 PM
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Sexual market value.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/20 04:26 PM
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That makes perfect sense
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/07/20 04:24 PM
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It’s not a low standard actually. Most women in society are plain janes after you take off the makeup.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/20 04:24 PM
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True. But if I can avoid the random (arbitrary) reasons by committing to a woman with lower SMV than me, then the only reason why she would break up is if I really really fuck up. So if I don’t fuck up, the relationship will last a very long time (unless I break up or unless I really fuck up)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/20 04:11 AM
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Don’t listen to what they say; watch what they do. They will also cry a river about wanting a kind, respectful man — then friendzone him to go and fuck a guy that doesn’t return their texts/calls
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/20 03:13 AM
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it sounds like you have a very specific type of woman that you're attracted to. Don’t we all 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/20 02:38 AM
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For me, the benefit of less shit tests, more pleasant behaviour as well as not worrying about her cheating and/or her breaking up for arbitrary reasons outweigh the costs of forgoing a more attractive woman
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/20 02:28 AM
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I see your point and could definitely apply that in friendships and family relationships, but it would be disadvantageous to apply that in romantic contexts (I’m a man), since deferring responsibility/power to a spouse will decrease her attraction
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/20 02:26 AM
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Power imbalances are fine if they're mutually-consensual. Why would a person voluntarily consent to having less power? On the other hand, the more power I have over my partner, the more avoidant I am The more avoidant you are, is the more she will love you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/20 02:17 AM
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Yeah. Generally, the one with the most power in a relationship is the one who needs the other the least. This person also usually has a higher SMV than the other one. I’d rather be this person, because I’m easy going and don’t mind dating a plain Jane insofar as she has a pleasant personality and isn’t bitchy. This also works out better for her because her female hypergamy is fulfilled by being in a committed relationship with a man with higher SMV than her.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/20 02:11 AM
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Women on the other hand... ...spoiled, curdled milk
/r/MGTOW28/07/20 02:01 AM
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Feminism was never about equality. It was about liberating women from their responsibilities to men while simultaneously maintaining male responsibility to women
/r/MGTOW28/07/20 01:59 AM
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Perfect response.
/r/MGTOW28/07/20 01:58 AM
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Yep. Aim to gain about 1lb every 2-4 weeks or so. Any more than that and it will be fat. Edit: spelling
/r/askTRP28/07/20 01:41 AM
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AWALT
/r/askTRP28/07/20 01:39 AM
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(https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/d53tvy/is_female_sexuality_actually_a_trap_for_men/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share) That explains a lot. I always noticed that phenomenon happening in both my relationships as well as my friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/20 01:38 AM
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I find that Chad chasers always take a liking to cats. Is it because cats are aloof and they have to chase its validation like they do the men that pump and dump them?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/07/20 01:19 AM
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She needs dem tingles
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/07/20 01:16 AM
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And the divorce industry follows with billions more! Sigh.. I gave way too much money to my divorce attorney..
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/07/20 01:12 AM
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Spot on. Women just want a wedding ; they don’t want a marriage
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/07/20 01:11 AM
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She’s basically rationalizing (logically) why she should love him. But she most definitely does not and did not love him. It’s like when women say they love nice guys and hate assholes. Logically they reason that they should like nice guys because they have good qualities... but they just dont get that raw primal attraction for those types of guys even though they may logically want to.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/07/20 01:10 AM
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