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Doesn't matter; better to be a bully than a rapist. The most anyone can say is that he stands up for his own innocence and is mean to fake victims who were just in it for the cash. Defamation lawsuits don't affect real accusations, because in the process of discovery any obvious lies will be found and the record will be corrected. If the accusation is the trial these days, then defending oneself from the accusation is as important as the defense in criminal court.
/r/MensRights08/12/15 10:00 PM

Understandable, but I'm not saying he needs to WIN defamation lawsuits. The goal oftentimes of filing a suit is to simply change someone's behavior, to make a company follow through on its obligations or to make an individual publicly retract their defamatory comments. Honestly, if Deen really wanted to save his career here he should have immediately filed lawsuits against any of those people he could reasonably be shown on video to be lying, simply to get them to publicly retract their statemen…
/r/MensRights08/12/15 09:17 PM

And finally, I want to remind people that I am not the subject of any lawsuits, I am not under criminal investigation, and at this moment I have no intention of filing defamation suits against false accusations. Nope; always, always, ALWAYS file suits. Like Deen said, some of these women are being offered thousands of dollars for stories, fact-checking be damned. Who wouldn't sex up (to make a pun) any past interaction for $5000? These aren't criminal allegations, the people involved aren't unde…
/r/MensRights08/12/15 08:39 PM
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That makes them doubly idiotic, considering the movie isn't even out yet. :P
/r/MensRights07/12/15 01:47 PM

Even arguing against rape is rape! The only way to not be associated with rape is to be a rapist, because rapists are just products of their culture and environment and not aberrant sociopaths.
/r/MensRights07/12/15 01:37 PM
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Two wrongs don't make a right, but two different punishments for the same "crime" don't fit either. If Clementine Ford is going to call for someone to lose their job for calling her a cunt, then she should by her own moral judgments step down from her job because she has called other people cunts. If she doesn't, she is quite literally saying that the only reason she objects to someone calling her a cunt is because that person is a man.
/r/MensRights02/12/15 04:29 PM

"Someone said a nasty word on the internet? Oooooooh, you're in troooouuuuuble!" ~ Clementine Ford, 2015
/r/MensRights02/12/15 02:22 AM
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If the allegations turn out to be true, he should plead guilty and let the courts decide. If the allegations are not true, then he's already misstepped; remember the lawyer who got slapped with allegation of sexual misconduct with a minor but who immediately fired back with counterclaims, suits, and was more than willing to drag everything out into the open? http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2015/01/06/in-sworn-statement-dershowitz-calls-accuser-a-serial-liar/ It's a sad thing to say, but that's the only…
/r/MensRights01/12/15 07:40 PM

That's how my family came to the US; they didn't have enough money to send everybody, so the dad went alone and he worked in coal mines in Pennsylvania until he could afford to bring over his family. Then, he went alone out west and worked on the west coast until he could afford to pay for the family to cross the country on the newly-built railroad system. One of my ancestors, the smallest child, died on the trip across the country, that's how hard it was back in the 19th century. But they staye…
/r/MensRights24/11/15 04:31 PM
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Nope; Lauren Southern and Milo Yiannopoulos have been banging the wardrums about supporting his trial expenditures since he has not been allowed to go on the internet during the now three-year-long trial (which, as a graphic artist, is tantamount to career suicide): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUHifFFyLKk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViiAiHW0OiQ https://www.generosity.com/fundraising/gregory-alan-elliott-twitter-trial-support-fund
/r/MensRights24/11/15 04:24 PM
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Because the story isn't being shown of the actual victims of the tragedy, just "victims" of the bungling clean-up. Let me put it to you this way, if there had been something horrible happen to women, oh, I dunno, say a factory fire that affected primarily women, and the documentary focused not on the struggles of those "directly affected" by the fire, but just those who were related to those who died in the fire, wouldn't you wonder why the damn FIRE wasn't the big story? This documentary isn't …
/r/MensRights15/11/15 11:41 PM
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The reason why I am interpreting Connell's hegemonic hierarchy is because of her (and Kimmel's) use of the "mythopoetic men's movement" as a straw man of a reaction to men's compensatory reaction to women's liberation from gender roles; as Connell explains on p. 27: The male sex role approach, then, is fundamentally reactive. It does not generate a strategic politics of masculinity. I think this is an underlying reason why men who had worked hard for sex role change in the 1970s could make no ef…
/r/MensRights11/11/15 10:52 PM
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Well, if you're going to go with the "people like you" knee-jerk reaction, do you really expect anyone to take you seriously either? How do you even know me? I've been a subscriber to /MensRights for five years, ever since the halcyon days when the subreddit heading was still "pissing off feminists since XXXX". You don't know me, so don't act like you do. As for the argument of Click's piece, maybe you should do some more work ARGUING for your position rather than just saying "nu-uh!" like a chi…
/r/MensRights11/11/15 10:27 PM
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Seems legal, but probably shady. If it's a legitimate business, then they would be shooting themselves in the foot by denying access to 50% of their potential customer base. If it's NOT a legitimate business, then nobody should be signing up for that service, especially if they want to pick the type of victim client they're interested in.
/r/MensRights10/11/15 09:54 PM
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Hey, I'll take whatever I can get. :)
/r/MensRights10/11/15 09:44 PM
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How much do you want to bet that they are going to call the movie "GamerGate" and have the entirety of the GamerGate movement be rewritten as harassing one woman? History is written by the victors, after all.
/r/MensRights10/11/15 07:59 PM

Having read the article, I don't think there's any "attack" on the idea of masculinity in her piece. If anything, she's just inheriting the flawed premise of hegemonic masculinity as described by Raewyn Connell in her book "Masculinities." Connell herself is a transwoman, having transitioned from being a man in relatively homophobic Australia. Thus, her analysis of masculinity which ties it not only to power but to subordination of women is somewhat suspect in that it closely resembles her own l…
/r/MensRights10/11/15 07:46 PM

https://communication.missouri.edu/faculty/click Her work in this area is guided by audience studies, theories of gender and sexuality, and media literacy. Current research projects involve 50 Shades of Grey readers, the impact of social media in fans’ relationship with Lady Gaga, masculinity and male fans, messages about class and food in reality television programming, and messages about work in children's television programs. Not exactly hard-hitting academic work, but I would imagine that an…
/r/MensRights10/11/15 07:05 PM

Just a sign that we're not alone in finding these people's actions reprehensible, and that we're not their only targets. The feminist professor at the end who tries to steal the reporter's phone is a faculty member of their communications department, and yet she considers it acceptable to intimidate journalists with "muscle." These people are cancerous to higher education.
/r/MensRights10/11/15 04:01 PM
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He's got that Asian privilege.
/r/MensRights10/11/15 03:59 PM
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Such soft authoritarianism: "we won't ban you from campus, but considering you're here as a speaker we won't let you speak." But just imagine if he had decided to come, but instead spoke without permission at an alternate meeting; at that point, the campus police probably would have broken up the meeting and then escorted him off campus, effectively banning him and blaming him for his own banning because he did it to himself. After all, he WAS allowed to come, just not to speak!
/r/MensRights08/11/15 06:35 PM
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Except that he went on to become one of the great pioneers of science at Yale; let's not forget that the United States was less than 20 years old at this point, had recently undergone a disastrous war with the British, and that scientific experimentation was still in its infancy in the US. Yale, like many other colleges, was still largely a seminary and legal school, but Silliman created a new home for the sciences there. Not a bad turnout, eh?
/r/MensRights08/11/15 06:31 PM

Holy shit--talk about going full retard: Christakis and her husband have since invited all Silliman signatories of the open letter, as well as any other Silliman students who might disagree with her email, to a lunch this Sunday. The invitation was sharply rejected by some, including one student who, in a Yale Herald piece published today, criticized the invitation and argued that Nicholas Christakis “needs to stop instigating more debate.” Yes, because what really shouldn't happen at an institu…
/r/MensRights07/11/15 10:24 PM

Yes, we just want to "no-platform" him, because newspeak just sounds preferable to actual verbs. Sorry, sounds doubleplusgood.
/r/MensRights07/11/15 10:06 PM
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Homeless shelters would be your first, best bet. They are always needing assistance both with fundraising and with volunteer work. You won't find any male-only shelters, but by unhappy coincidence most homeless people are men due to the unholy trinity of mental illness (affects more men than women), financial instability (due to traditionally male jobs being cut) and drug addiction (again, affecting more men than women). Just make sure when you are looking for shelters to donate your time and mo…
/r/MensRights07/11/15 09:56 PM
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Except that these aren't genuine crimes or victims; they're literally trying to start a witchhunt against a guy they don't like.
/r/MensRights05/11/15 02:22 AM
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Perverting the course of feminism.
/r/MensRights02/11/15 03:18 PM

And they say we aren't silenced: it only takes one woman on the entire panel to say "NO" and suddenly the issue is off the table? Imagine it the other way around; if a woman came to a panel of a women's organization and suggested a day to discuss women's issues explicitly (because Phillips apparently believes that male representation = male bias in government) and the single lone male on the panel (probably a diversity hire, too!) is able to simply quash all discussion on the subject? Would that…
/r/MensRights01/11/15 10:29 PM
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What is this, the 1980s? Brent Staples, save us from this idiocy! http://facstaff.uww.edu/carlberj/Journal3.htm
/r/MensRights01/11/15 10:21 PM
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Despite this, it’s heartening to see so many young women eagerly turn out for Clinton’s feminism-heavy campaign. Not surprising, of course—feminism, which has grown tremendously due to the internet in recent years, is hip these days—but still heartening. It’s easy to grow cynical and dismissive of what it would mean to have the first female president, especially since so many other countries have already had female heads of state. But standing in a crowd of mothers who brought their daughters ou…
/r/MensRights27/10/15 05:30 PM
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Yeah--she doesn't need a hookup, she needs a therapist.
/r/MensRights27/10/15 05:04 PM

It sounds like an unintended glimpse into her real mindset, actually; "fuckboy" is usually used as a dehumanizing term for (especially young) guys that are wanted for nothing else but fucking. If she's using it as a derogative term as well, then not only is she trying to hook up with a "fuckboy" on tinder, but she probably is disgusted by the whole process anyway. Sounds like this guy dodged a real bullet.
/r/MensRights27/10/15 05:01 PM
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No, the problem is we HAVE a men's movement, and so feminists like Powell want to co-opt it. "You made this thing you like? No, I made this thing you like. And now you can't have it anymore because you're mean to me for taking away this thing that I made."
/r/MensRights26/10/15 03:18 PM

Yeah, if nothing else she's the one sending mixed signals: "I'm here for hooking up, but don't be a creep!" Well, the entire conversation could be considered "creepy" if you're not into hookup culture. "I want to meet you at a bar, but I also can't give consent while intoxicated!" So, if we have any drinks at this bar where we're meeting, I'm fucked for taking your drunken consent as consent consent? "I know the police, so I hope the thought of going to jail puts you in the mood!" Ugh, do SJWs e…
/r/MensRights25/10/15 11:17 PM
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Not ten to one, but two to one: http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/04/14/study-finds-surprisingly-that-women-are-favored-for-jobs-in-stem/ The problem is that when women have more choices than just going into hard fields like STEM fields, they oftentimes choose the easier fields that allow them greater flexibility for having families and enjoying their lives: http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2014-04-08/government-can-t-fix-real-gender-pay-gap http://judgybitch.com/2015/0…
/r/MensRights20/10/15 09:25 PM
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Damsels in distress everywhere support #HeForShe, because #SheForShe apparently is just too hard!
/r/MensRights20/10/15 08:57 PM

I honestly think some of these overpaid, privileged princesses read a bunch of blogs about how women are "such victims much misogyny wow" and they literally lose the ability to think with their brains. They start seeing conspiracies everywhere and begin regurgitating bad facts and worse anecdotes, with little or no relation to reality. Honestly, it reminds me of the Salem witch trials, which were started by a bunch of silly girls making up stories about the evil witchcraft their black maidservan…
/r/MensRights20/10/15 04:28 PM

Why is there even such a thing as retroactive rape? If you give consent in the moment, then consent is given. You can't give consent, clearly and without coercion, and then later say you didn't give consent. I swear, this generation of girls is literally necessitating the use of dashcam-style cameras in the bedroom to keep people from being dishonest about rape.
/r/MensRights17/10/15 06:00 PM
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Am I the only one that wonders where the GIRL is in all this "affirmative consent" nonsense? This sounds much more like programming boys to be hypervigilant for consent while assuming girls largely can't or won't give verbal or nonverbal cues for consent unless explicitly prompted by boys. How much agency are we putting on boys, especially inexperienced boys who are already nervous about learning how to "please a woman," by then giving them the lion's share of responsibility for determining some…
/r/MensRights15/10/15 03:28 PM
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Perpetual victimhood; even if they are arrested, that would only prove their point that they are victims. If they aren't arrested, that proves their point that nobody listens to them. If they are listened to, that only proves that their message is being spread and thus they are right. If they are disagreed with, then that proves that more aggressive action is needed. If they are arrested in that aggressive action, then that proves.... etc., ad nauseam. You can't win against ideologues. The most …
/r/MensRights27/09/15 09:56 PM
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Zoe Quinn a "victim"? More like Zoe Quinn involved in a sex scandal that exposed collusion between game devs and games journalists. If Zoe Quinn had been a man, HE would never have been considered a victim, but instead a perpetrator.
/r/MensRights25/09/15 04:03 PM
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I'd like to say that he should have asked the cops to arrest her and press charges rather than hitting back, but most cops would have laughed in his face at the idea. It's assault if you even touch a cop with one finger, but if you're a woman you practically have to outright kill a guy before the cops will intervene.
/r/PussyPass20/09/15 11:14 PM
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You'd better believe women would be more conscientious about having babies if THEY were on the hook for 18 years of child support regardless if they gave up the child or not. If only there was a Safe Haven drop box for men's paychecks!
/r/MensRights07/09/15 01:42 PM
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And to be unfairly lumped in or used as shields by feminists when they push their radical anti-male agendas! Feminists are not above using gay men to make themselves look like they don't hate men, so long as the gay men are good little queens and don't speak up or disagree with the main narrative. And even if they do, like Milo or others, they can still be discounted because they aren't straight and therefore participators in the Patriarchy.
/r/MensRights22/08/15 08:20 PM
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It doesn't help that increasingly women are preferring the "dark triad" of dangerous sociopathic tendencies in the men they idolize: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_triad http://www.mentalhealthy.co.uk/addiction/sex-addiction/dangerous-pleasure-why-we-can-be-attracted-to-dangerous-sex.html http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/psychology-uncovers-sex-appeal-dark-personalities/ It's been said that the human male's penis size (so out of proportion in comparison to the rest of our primate co…
/r/MensRights15/08/15 03:11 PM
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I once had an older male teacher break it down for me, saying that in his experience women only begin to dominate in professions once all the opportunity for success and achievement is gone. Sure, it sounds misogynistic, but look at all the female dominated occupations: anti-competition, anti-ladder-climbing cesspools of status quo and groupthink. Achievers in education don't remain teachers; achievers in medicine don't remain nurses; achievers in government don't remain government workers; achi…
/r/MensRights15/08/15 03:05 PM
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Go to a tech school if you're interested in learning a trade, or pick a lesser-regarded school that will at least get you the degree you want. If all you're going for is a bachelor's degree, you'll save tons of money, get better grades (the bigger the school, the harder the grading), and almost no employers even understand college rankings; so long as you have the degree, you're golden. These SJW groups don't have influence without money and power to fuel their cultural outrage machines, so find…
/r/MensRights15/08/15 03:00 PM

Lord knows I wish I could wear sandals, shorts, and a hawaiian shirt to work and have it be considered business casual like women's office wear is. Men wear long pants and long sleeved shirts, and even coats when appropriate; OF COURSE they're going to want the AC cooler!
/r/MensRights15/08/15 02:50 PM
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How so? Smearing an entire target population by associating their gender with a crime committed by a vanishingly small percentage of that gender isn't apt? Please explain yourself.
/r/MensRights15/08/15 02:31 PM

Two leaps in logic being made here that you should educate your friend about: 1) "Power" is not a uniquely gendered characteristic. For instance, the majority of power in the Middle Ages was gathered in the aristocracy, which accounted for at the very most 5% of the population, with the other 5-10% of power held by members of the church. For the other 85-90% of the population, the laboratores, there was no social mobility whatsoever--you did the job your parents did, or one you were suited for. …
/r/MensRights14/08/15 05:46 PM

"Teach your daughters not to drown their children! *except for the girls that don't kill their offspring, not all women are infanticidal!" Because there are no such thing as bad tactics, only bad targets?
/r/MensRights14/08/15 05:13 PM
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So you're a concern troll, trying to police speech because apparently that's a more important issue than policing violent behaviors given a pass by biased legal systems. And you wonder why you're being downvoted.
/r/MensRights06/08/15 10:05 PM
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I don't know much about whatever "social conservatism" is, but if you mean traditionalism, then by all means, attack away. Traditionalists = feminists, because traditionalists view women as a special class of human who needs to be protected and coddled and especially praised whenever they do something good with their tender little paws. Traditionalists view women as the semi-divine lifegiving force for their children, rather than just another sperminated egg incubator like all other mammalian sp…
/r/MensRights06/08/15 10:03 PM
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You got all that from a bag? Sounds like you're bringing your own baggage to the party, because all I see is a bag with a slogan. Maybe you should stop and ask yourself whether or not you're just creating straw-enemies to fight, like the mythical "straggly grey-haired brain-zapped unhinged old hippy" you created up above. Unless you want someone to come along and cast the same sort of aspersions on you, that is. Would you like to take some of what you're dishing out? Somehow I doubt you'd apprec…
/r/MensRights06/08/15 09:56 PM
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Genital integrity for all, or genital integrity for none. Type IV of female genital mutilation as listed by the WHO states that: Other: all other harmful procedures to the female genitalia for non-medical purposes, e.g. pricking, piercing, incising, scraping and cauterizing the genital area. http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs241/en/ ...in other words, you can cut off whole pieces of male babies' genitals, but you are barred by international law from drawing one drop of blood or even sc…
/r/MensRights06/08/15 09:46 PM
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And don't forget that many attempted "suicides" are simply cries for help, such as a friend of mine who was put on a 72 hour suicide watch because she slashed her wrists with a butter knife. Like, cross ways, barely even cutting herself. Yes, troubling behavior that needed intervention, but putting a gun in your mouth and pulling the trigger is a fundamentally different exercise to butter-knifing your wrist skin.
/r/MensRights06/08/15 09:42 PM

No, that would be objectification and wrong. Everybody knows that she doesn't have to do anything for you, you have to do everything for her with no expectation of anything in return, because you have a penis and she does not.
/r/MensRights23/07/15 06:17 PM

Indeed--many of us are still in his shoes, because we can't openly express our ideas or stand up for ourselves and thus risk losing the relationships we have. Women simply don't understand the pressure on men to conform to rigid gender codes, because women have never been valued primarily for conforming to them. Women have always had the trump card of "being necessary for sex and procreation" up their sleeve, and every generation of men and women, even in their most violent and patriarchal, have…
/r/MensRights23/07/15 06:13 PM
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Everybody knows that in the game of custody, you win or you are male. :) But in reality, yes; custody court is entirely backwards, treats fathers as guilty until proven innocent and as criminals until they pay their way free in a he-said/she-said antagonistic dispute where normal rules of order and evidence are subverted in order to pay for the bloated budgets of court officials and line the coffers of ambulance-chasing lawyers. And then feminists have the nerve to wonder why more men don't chal…
/r/MensRights21/06/15 03:45 PM

Especially when nobody is even willing to point out that more women are choosing not to include their partners in child-raising duties than ever before. Apparently these single mothers have too much of the patriarchy in 'em.
/r/MensRights20/06/15 05:23 PM
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This only muddies the water further; who determines whether or not the complainant has "remained capable of choosing whether or not to have intercourse"? And depending on when these blood tests are done, will it even matter? Women are already routinely told not to go to the police because wicked policemen will poke and prod their bodies and want "evidence" and other terrible things to prove a case in court, so instead women should just go home and shower all the evidence off and then make the ra…
/r/MensRights03/06/15 04:36 PM
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"Why aren't men manning up and going out with us sexless harridans?"
/r/MensRights03/06/15 04:33 PM
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Not for long.
/r/MensRights03/06/15 04:31 PM
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And women wonder where all the good guys are. They're in their dorms playing video games because going out and dating girls their own age makes them guilty of rape until they prove themselves innocent!
/r/MensRights24/05/15 05:36 PM
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You say that as if racists or anti-semites were on the whole entirely irrational. The fact is that there is a cultural narrative of male disposability; there is even a cutesy youtube video of danish girls killing a man and dancing in his blood in homage to an actual attempted murderer and radical feminist: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ArX1hkPUMCQ Presumably, the girls who made this video were reasonable. The people who watched this video and upvoted it were reasonable. The people who would co…
/r/MensRights22/05/15 07:33 PM

This would be the same as shouting "Fire!" in a crowded theater. It stops being free speech when it starts becoming an incitement to harm. That's why "white power!" is protected speech, but "kill all blacks!" is not.
/r/MensRights22/05/15 05:33 PM
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I'll bet Valenti wore a "boys are stupid, throw rocks at them!" t-shirt as a kid. Hell, she probably wears one now, being unintentionally ironic.
/r/MensRights15/05/15 04:05 AM
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8:48 "But still... it works, because he's got his shit together, he provides resources..." Why the fuck is this traditionalist horsecrap getting upvoted? Since when did MGTOW become PUA heaven? You might as well call me Tom Leykis and say I just need to neg a bitch to show her I'm alpha. If this is the kind of cunt-craven sycophantry I should expect to find on /r/MGTOW, this subreddit is a fucking disappointment.
/r/MGTOW11/05/15 03:28 PM
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I'm glad you made the apology, and I apologize for my oversensitivity. But who's really being a cunt here? I mean, look at what my fellow MGTOWs are saying in this very thread: In order to defeat the patriarchy we must make ourselves repulsive to its members! Ironically, she has no problem stuffing her mouth with food that is provided for her by Male farmers, and transported to her local grocery market by Male truck drivers. Is she really one to be complaining about being surrounded by stink? I'…
/r/MGTOW08/05/15 10:49 PM
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your endomorphism has turned you into a bitter turd burger. was simply trying to bestow some encouragement and introspection buuut life dealt you a shitty hand and as a result, you're a cunt. It seems you're still ignorant, and you really haven't shut that face-gina. "I was trying to get you to introspect on why your problem is just willpower and not fucked up genetics. Oh wait? It was genetics? Well, I was just trying to get you to introspect on why being fat made you angry that someone was tel…
/r/MGTOW08/05/15 03:10 AM
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it says something about you as a person, that you dont want to look after your health and well being. that you're purposefully killing yourself slowly with a diet and lifestyle based on addiction to sugars and fats, that will lead to disease, and our taxes spent on trying to heal your ass, or worse, you dying. It says something about you as a person, you inbred ignorant, that you hear about a person being fat and you assume you know all about their lifestyle and how you can judge it. For your fu…
/r/MGTOW08/05/15 02:46 AM
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So, does this image also support the idea that fat MGTOWs prove what is wrong with MGTOW? Because other than the stupid comment about patriarchy, I don't see the reason to have the picture there except to make fun of a fat person. As a fat person myself, what the fuck does weight have to do with a person's statements and arguments?
/r/MGTOW06/05/15 05:14 PM
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What is the relationship between MRM and MGTOW? The MRM is the "change" wing discussing men's issues; they are seeking legal and social avenues to redress issues of high workplace fatality rates, low education rates, legal inequality issues, and social disposability issues that men face. If you are familiar with these issues, I won't enumerate them; otherwise, happy to. MGTOW is the "abandon" wing: seeing that men are disenfranchised in numerous very real and potentially lethal ways, MGTOWs are …
/r/MGTOW30/04/15 09:27 PM
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4th wave feminism: uniting the world through hatred of feminists.
/r/MensRights28/04/15 11:53 PM
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I don't think that's what Pelosi was saying... I watched the video and the discussion of whether the Iraq vote should "disqualify" her wasn't in the context of her "being a woman," because that was a different topic; the context was that of Clinton's hawkish foreign policy and support for interventionist warfare. Not only did she vote to enter Iraq, but during her campaign last time she maintained her stance even when Obama distanced himself from Bush's war-mongering.
/r/PussyPass19/04/15 11:53 AM
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I die/get raped/kidnapped etc. he is left alone on the street. I am absolutely terrified of such a situation occurring. I don't care about my safety as much as my ability to care for and protect him. Again, I can't even imagine the fear you must be feeling, but let's not forget that you're in a special place where violent weapons have been banned. The gun homicide rate in Australia is a FRACTION of what it is in the US, so appealing to some emotional response as if that somehow justifies... what…
/r/MensRights14/04/15 05:10 PM
1

With the rape thing, that definitely doesn't happen in Australia. Here, if you rape someone, you can spend as little as 1-6 years in prison. Then out you get, ready to rape some more. I'm sorry, I'm going to have to ask for some statistics on that, because I have a hard time believing that unlike the rest of the developed world, Australia doesn't have exactly the same standards towards rape as every other country. A similar myopia is going on in England: http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/…
/r/MensRights12/04/15 09:15 PM
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Yep--confirmed. I tried getting through it, and all the questions I saw were assuming male-aggressor only rape. I stopped answering questions after a huge long section came up with like thirty different questions, each rated on a 5 point scale from strong disagree to strong agree. That's just bad survey design. No questions from what I saw about men being raped, even though one of the options at the beginning was to mark down that you were the victim of sexual assault or rape. Maybe that was lat…
/r/MensRights04/04/15 06:10 PM
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When I found out 18 year old males have higher insurance premiums than 18 year old females where I live, I flipped my absolute shit. I actually don't think this is necessarily a problem; maybe if someone in insurance can show me where the inequality is purely based on gender, that would be one thing, but as far as I can tell, 18 year old BOYS are about two years behind 18 year old GIRLS in physical and emotional development, due to the fact that girls hit puberty and mature faster than boys. It …
/r/MensRights04/04/15 05:58 PM
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Don't forget common-law marriage and cohabitation laws, depending on your state. If you spend any significant amount of time and resources on your partner's well-being, the government has ways for her to continue taking your resources because you have proven yourself her caretaker, like adopting a fully-grown child. And forget about your future if your girlfriend has children and you act in any way paternally towards those children. You can have your wages garnished to pay for SOMEONE ELSE'S chi…
/r/MensRights02/04/15 06:22 PM
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You should ask her if she thinks being a woman = having a broken leg. Anything a woman can do, a man can do, eh? How about stand up during your ride!
/r/MensRights02/04/15 05:36 PM
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I would be fine for a truly international Women's Day for the purposes of highlighting where women are still not treated as equal members of society under the law. But self-congratulation is not respecting human dignity and civil liberties; we all know that women can do awesome things, and anybody who says that women can't do awesome things because they're women is just as much a sexist as a woman who says the same thing about men. If you're going to make an awareness day matter, make the topic …
/r/MensRights24/03/15 04:48 PM
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Everybody knows that there's no such thing as a "left-right" dichotomy. "Leftists" for example can be marxists, trotskyites, socialists, and progressives, and that's not even taking into account the political parties who self-identify as "left" regardless of where they are in comparison with everyone else. The closest one could come to an objective would be a four-way political compass: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_compass But even that is subject to the arbitrary whims of what is cons…
/r/MensRights08/03/15 11:38 PM
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I disagree on the grounds that drunken sex is by its very nature stupid and dangerous, like drunk driving except with your genitals. If people are drunk enough to black out (which, BTW, usually requires you to drink over the legal limit unless you're anorexic and can get blackout drunk off of three beers), they should not be held to ANY legally binding contracts, whether to buy a car or drive responsibly or have consensual sex. And "people do it anyways" is not a defense, any more than it is for…
/r/MensRights14/02/15 08:06 PM
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I would totally oppress the hell out of her by buying her dinner. :)
/r/MensRights14/02/15 07:57 PM
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It's nice to refer to every now and then when the company, or in this case the site community, is straying from the original purpose. See--I'm trying, trying real hard to believe you are dealing straight with me, but then you say things like this that just set off alarm bells that you're subtly (and perhaps unknowingly) concern trolling. Tone policing, at the very least. It just makes me less likely to believe you when you say other things like this: So many places that DO focus on [group]'s iss…
/r/MensRights12/02/15 05:46 PM
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That's sort of the problem, in my view--where are these MRAs that "discount the issues of others" when those issues aren't manufactured outrages or based on spurious and falsified data? What MRA ever has said that "women have it great in Saudi Arabia," or "blacks were doing better under slavery/segregation," or any other obvious inequality issue you can think of? There's a difference, to my thinking, between discounting the ISSUES of others and discounting the PROPAGANDA of others. For instance,…
/r/MensRights12/02/15 01:55 AM

That is just so dishonest--imagine if it were a 0-10 questionnaire: 0 = no 1 = yes 2 = yes 3 = yes 4 = yes 5 = yes 6 = yes 7 = yes 8 = yes 9 = yes 10 = yes That, fellow rational thinkers, is called "stacking the deck." Most honest questionnaires follow a much more balanced rubric: 1 = strongly disagree 2 = disagree 3 = neutral/no opinion 4 = agree 5 = strongly agree I guaran-damn-tee you that if the students were given THAT questionnaire, they would not have responded positively AT ALL to the qu…
/r/MensRights22/01/15 10:00 PM
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No--feminists actually like those groups; and I'm not being facetious, because jocks and abusers promote the stereotype of men that feminists believe are "real" men. Whenever they look at a nerd, they are secretly looking for the jock or the abuser inside that nerd; when they can't find it, they rationalize whatever behavior he does do as the supposed "abuse." Take the original statement by the above MIT prof--he was literally incapacitated with fear for women and disgust at himself due to femin…
/r/MensRights17/01/15 05:02 PM
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"You're either part of the solution or part of the problem." Very good point, much more succinct than mine. I am loath to quote the prequel Star Wars films, but aren't the Sith the only ones who deal in absolutes? It isn't just feminists who do this, but anybody who claims for themselves the moral high ground and wants to censor alternative viewpoints. It is annoying when feminists will proclaim complete and utter openness to alternative viewpoints... so long as you agree with feminism. That's l…
/r/MensRights17/01/15 04:50 PM
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You're right--selling meth is a business transaction which two people enter into willingly, and not a violation of the seller's authority over the buyer. This isn't at all like a teacher selling meth to her students; this is a teacher shoving meth up her students' asses whether they want it or not, and daring the law to come after her as she does it again and again. If only she could have just been a simple drug dealer and not an abuser of her position of authority and a pedophile. But go ahead-…
/r/PussyPass17/01/15 04:38 PM
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It would be a hard sell--feminists don't want to segregate themselves, they want men to WANT to be segregated away from women. Thus, they make the environments around them poisonous to alternative viewpoints, control speech and behavior in contradictory ways so that only ideologues like themselves are in control of what people are allowed to say and do, and they force everyone to either accept this new "reality" or be branded as outcasts. Thus, before non-feminists can even participate in the co…
/r/MensRights16/01/15 11:35 PM
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Well, now we can see that you'd be fine giving her a pussy pass too. Does that make you part of the solution, or part of the problem?
/r/PussyPass16/01/15 11:31 PM
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This isn't a case of Romeo and Juliet, this is a case of Casanova and Juliet--she's in her mid thirties and didn't even let the first rape charge stop her from going out and doing it again. Fuck--if she was just a meth dealer and got busted for selling to minors AND THEN WENT RIGHT BACK OUT AND DID IT AGAIN, you'd probably be telling us that she's a menace and should be put behind bars, right? Or would you be making excuses for her and saying "obviously, the minors buying meth from her totally w…
/r/PussyPass16/01/15 11:30 PM
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No no--your son wouldn't be the one doing the "banging": http://fox13now.com/2014/09/19/former-teacher-to-stand-trial-after-second-student-alleges-sexual-misconduct/ Altice now faces a total of nine counts of rape, forcible sodomy, and forcible sexual abuse. I hope you enjoy high-fiving your child for being anally raped by his teachers. Context matters--maybe you should have thought of that before you defended this piece of shit who couldn't even wait for her FIRST criminal sex abuse trial to ge…
/r/PussyPass14/01/15 04:12 PM
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No no--you wouldn't be the one doing the "boning": http://fox13now.com/2014/09/19/former-teacher-to-stand-trial-after-second-student-alleges-sexual-misconduct/ Altice now faces a total of nine counts of rape, forcible sodomy, and forcible sexual abuse. I hope 17 year old you liked being anally raped by your teachers. Context matters--maybe you should have thought of that before you defended this piece of shit who couldn't even wait for her FIRST criminal sex abuse trial to get done before she we…
/r/PussyPass14/01/15 04:11 PM
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"She looked old enough" is not a valid defense.
/r/PussyPass14/01/15 03:58 PM
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And that's YOU, especially YOU NOW, looking back with 20/20 hindsight. Biologically, 17 year old boys are several years behind 17 year old girls in physical and emotional maturity, so you have to ask yourself three questions: not only "Do I approve of teachers in positions of authority fucking their students, both male and female teachers?" and "Would I similarly approve of this behavior being perpetrated on a female student," but also "Do I approve of a 35 year old female teacher forcibly sodom…
/r/PussyPass14/01/15 03:57 PM
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The problem isn't the age, but the abuse of power; think about it this way--would you want your 17 year old daughter to be sleeping with her 35 year old teacher, regardless of how hot he is?
/r/PussyPass14/01/15 03:50 PM
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If done by the woman herself: empowering If done by others (with the woman's consent): empowering If done by others (without the woman's consent): exploitative Anybody who would make the argument that a woman could exploit herself is either an idiot and jealous of sexy women anyways, or an idiot who doesn't understand that some women might like being sexy.
/r/MensRights13/01/15 11:39 PM
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There's a category of words that have sprung up of late to shame men for acting in a manly terrible fashion. There you have it, folks. No need to read any further; the implication is that man = terrible.
/r/MensRights09/01/15 09:28 PM
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Take a chill pill. A chill Red Pill. :)
/r/MensRights09/01/15 09:24 PM
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Eh--I'd say "feminists" more than "women", because most women don't like what feminism has become and I respect them for that, at least. It's also important to remember that the "low" conviction rate for rape is actually higher than the conviction rate for murder--the reason is because the number that feminists end up with is actually an aggregation of ALL rape investigations, regardless of the cause or the extent of the investigation. So if a jealous wife makes a single accusation of spousal ra…
/r/MensRights08/01/15 09:29 PM
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It's the problem of choice. Look at human beings not through the lens of a human but through the lens of an alien seeing humans for the first time--males of the species spurn adornments, chop off all their hair, shear off most of the hair that grows naturally on their faces, and generally attempt to avoid standing out from the norm by wearing neutral tones and avoiding bright or unique garments. Women--sorry, females, on the other hand, go out of their way to attract as much attention as possibl…
/r/MensRights08/01/15 07:22 PM
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Patriarchy--women need the extra room for their hoop skirts and fainting couches.
/r/MensRights08/01/15 06:50 AM
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Yep--it's like feminists want to believe in a rape culture so hard they are actually willing to create that culture themselves, sowing discord and mistrust in the criminal justice system so that women feel helpless and unable to find a solution to their problem... And then, feminism. Best way to profit from a crisis is to manufacture that crisis in order to control people's reaction to it. The LAST thing feminists want is a competent, impartial criminal justice system that they can't manipulate.…
/r/MensRights08/01/15 04:47 AM
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You might have responded to the wrong comment with this pic. We were talking about vice and gawker campaigning for douchiest weblog of the year award.
/r/MensRights06/01/15 10:37 PM
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And didn't they just get a face full of their own medicine when Gawker was misrepresenting them as horrible bosses who don't pay their employees? I hope they like the irony.
/r/MensRights06/01/15 01:14 PM
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Not to be an asshole, but CAFE just fucking asked for this verbal beat down with their BS petition: This petition isn't going to do a whole lot to help with the high suicide rate that men face, or the plight of homelessness. Nor will it do much to fulfill the mandate that CAFE lists. But I don't think that's its purpose. It's little more than knee-jerk reactionary whining from a small population of people who are used to wallowing in entitlement. No petition needed—just move the hell over and st…
/r/MensRights05/01/15 09:59 PM
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At least he's an honest scumbag who follows the law, not a dishonest scumbag who is using the court of public opinion to make an innocent person seem guilty. And let's not forget that the rape accuser is NOT using the criminal justice system of courts and a trial and officers of the law; she is using the social justice system of smear tactics and the court of public opinion where the accused is automatically guilty until proven innocent, and then still guilty by proxy due to his gender and statu…
/r/MensRights05/01/15 04:02 PM
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The real tragedy is it takes a novel like the above post just to rebut the lame little opinion piece with no evidence or citations being responded to. And feminists will STILL prefer to listen to the Penny woman's little pittance. Own-group preference is a bitch.
/r/MensRights04/01/15 02:00 AM
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I prefer the more useful plural, "privileges." Once you make a singular "privilege," it becomes a monolith of an idea that is unassailable with logic. But as soon as you ask "okay, to what privileges are you referring?", the burden of proof is shifted. Rather than being a boogeyman of myth, "privilege" becomes the concrete privileges people receive in certain situations. Suddenly, not all white men are privileged, now rich white men in business and government are privileged. Suddenly, not all wo…
/r/MensRights04/01/15 01:57 AM
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Not to sound idealistic, but I expect the accused to hear these charges in a court of law where evidence is being brought according to proper procedure and the accused is afforded a lawyer whose sole duty is to defend his or her client from those accusations. In other words, these unfounded accusations (and I don't mean "unfounded" lightly--an accusation without evidence can be dismissed without evidence, to turn a phrase) are specifically NOT being made in court, under oath, in the presence of …
/r/MensRights04/01/15 01:21 AM
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Reddit would also like you not to go anywhere. It seems like the Reddit admins need a good hard dose of irony in reddit users complaining to Reddit's advertisers. After all, selective banning and silencing of Reddit users is against Reddit's own company policy and the only way to get Reddit to follow its own policy is to make it painful NOT to follow its own policy. Companies don't pay attention until their bottom line is in jeopardy. I'd recommend fighting silencing tactics by speaking up.
/r/MensRights04/01/15 01:05 AM
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This episode (one of a long line in recent years, by the way) suggests that feminism is no more a settled issue in America than is racism. WOW--that's a bold statement, especially considering the police shootings and subsequent riots in Ferguson and elsewhere highlighting the continuing oppression of blacks by an unfair criminal justice system. Apparently having people question the need for your movement is equivalent to violence and bigotry? Since when have feminists had to huddle in fear while…
/r/MensRights04/01/15 12:58 AM
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I don't believe in "sides." I believe in rights. This isn't "men's side," and people with conservative or traditional leanings who can see that numerical, statistical oppression is still oppression is fine by me. Their own personal solution may be to work out a balance that favors one partner over the other and I disagree with that, but people are people and should have the right to live their lives as they choose. If the OP wants to make traditionalism a law that constrains people in their choi…
/r/MensRights02/01/15 04:32 PM
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Except that I don't think men are having an easy time of it, even in the west. From all the statistics, we're killing ourselves more than women are, destroying our lives with drugs more, being imprisoned FAR more and for far longer periods than women, and we're falling behind in every social metric for advancement including employment, job satisfaction, mental health, education level, sexual satisfaction, etc. Men in the west are not doing well, certainly not on par with their female counterpart…
/r/MensRights01/01/15 11:04 PM
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And women bank on that lie as a part of their "knapsack" of social privileges. Whenever videos show women being helped as they try to steal bicycles or beat up fellow actors in stunt videos, everyone around the actors is buying into that same mythology of the "sugar and spice and everything nice" myth that women cannot tell a lie. Women don't want people being suspicious of them and watching them and judging them--they want people to trust them implicitly and give them things unearned. The fact …
/r/MensRights01/01/15 10:49 PM
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While the article in question is good, it doesn't hold a candle to the article it is referencing: http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2014/12/22/isis-most-prolific-slaver-this-century-harrowing-tale-of-escaped-concubine/ Goddamnit, this sort of shit just makes me cry with outrage. And here feminists are fighting "manspreading" and spreading #ShirtStorm. If this were a halfway decent society there would be a blackout, literally a blacked-out page on every liberal feminist blog, NOW website…
/r/MensRights31/12/14 12:05 AM
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You know what? The comments following this comment reminded me that most PEOPLE faced discrimination, and that universal human rights as a process had very few lags whatsoever. At most, a hundred years passed between the universal suffrage of one group and that of another; in the span of the ages which we normally consider "historical epochs," a hundred years is a drop in the bucket. The Middle Ages lasted over a 1000 years, in comparison. The Early Modern period over 300. And while the US is a …
/r/MensRights30/12/14 12:13 AM
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I'm not MGTOW because MGTOW is still in its infancy as a movement, halfway between recognizing that men are independent individuals with the right to determine their own destinies with or without women (but in today's climate, probably better without women), while the other half is reactionary vitriol against women's witting or unwitting participation in the unequal social system that induces men to be dependent on women for identity, social approval, and sexual fulfillment. It's totally true th…
/r/MensRights30/12/14 12:03 AM
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I don't have any facts, but I can surmise from my decades-old knowledge about the aristocracy that women have at least held property in trust for their male descendants, and that when there were no male heirs land could be held by women and included in marriage proceedings. There was also the "bride-gift" or "bride-price" that men would be obligated to pay to women if the marriage got annulled, and which could not be returned to the groom even when the couple remained married or the husband died…
/r/MensRights29/12/14 11:55 PM
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What does "dominance" in gender even mean? It was a term that made sense fifty years ago when women were still facing legal and political discrimination just for being women, but what sort of "dominance" do men have when simply appearing to be against the ever-present rise of women as a political powerhouse is seen as an act of the most base and violent oppression? I mean, at least reserve your ire for people who deserve it, like fundamentalists and child molesters. Males in the 21st century sho…
/r/MensRights29/12/14 07:13 AM
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Civil marriage offers numerous tax and medical benefits to partners, so that's something every committed couple should be aware of. Families and children are benefitted by committed partners, and marriage encourages that commitment. It isn't a foolproof method of encouragement, and the current regime of feminists is working as hard as it can to make marriage as painful and debilitating to traditional male breadwinners as possible, but that doesn't mean the idea is wrong, just the execution. As f…
/r/MensRights29/12/14 06:54 AM
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The worst part is, this law could be argued just this way. If the husband is the primary breadwinner and the wife questions HER use of HIS money, it could be construed as "coercive control." Well, shit. Yet another reason not to marry.
/r/MensRights29/12/14 06:46 AM
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All good questions, none with good answers, because these are student groups (often with only cursory faculty involvement and little understanding about proper criminal judicial procedure) making up rules for their own little fiefdoms. And if guys don't like being forced to prove a negative or lose their college education, they can simply go back where they came from. At some point, left-wing college feminists became far-right wing college republicans, and I don't know when it happened. But welc…
/r/MensRights29/12/14 06:42 AM
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Trust is earned. How is it earned publicly? By not avoiding tough questions. By not shifting the focus of tough subjects onto the personal motivations of your interlocutors. By not calling your interlocutors sick and in need of "healing" when they question your support of ACTUALLY sick religiously motivated child molestation. I really didn't expect you to answer my challenge, but boy, did you do me one better--you validated my challenge by claiming I would have to be sick to even pose the idea. …
/r/MensRights29/12/14 02:03 AM
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Divorcing college disciplinary hearings from anything resembling due process or the rule of law.
/r/MensRights29/12/14 12:42 AM
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I disagree, both in content and in justification. I've been a part of /MR for going on 5 years now, and in that time I've seen this sub become very mainstream. I remember when the tagline for this sub was "pissing feminists off since XXXX" or some such nonsense. It was fun, but I can see how it could have been off-putting. Mostly, I found it refreshing that people could say what they wanted to and nobody would delete it and ban the person willy-nilly. People had some extreme views, but the sub a…
/r/MensRights27/12/14 08:28 PM
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Nope--here was the question: Do you believe a parent should be allowed to cut off any piece of their baby's anatomy or just the pieces the baby might use a couple decades later for sex/masturbation? This is a moral question--do you or do you not believe that you have the right to harm a child. Now, you could have gone with the idea of medical necessity, which many circumcision advocates do, and which is evidence-based. You say you're an advocate of evidence, but look at what your argument says: …
/r/MensRights27/12/14 08:15 PM
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When the day comes that men and women all across the world are in the same boat with regards to their rights and responsibilities, this sub can shut down and let other subs take up the slack. But until then, this is still a sub about the discussion of MEN'S rights. You want to have a place to discuss the infringement of the rights of women? You have thousands. And I'm not being hyperbolic--you can go to any local college or university and find a state-funded women's studies department which does…
/r/MensRights27/12/14 07:58 PM
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That doesn't really sound stupid--it sounds like you are avoiding answering the question, and considering your other responses, avoiding answering intentionally. MRAs here aren't the ones advocating for the right to cut off parts of their children for no medically necessary reason; you are. And you're asking (one might even say insinuating) whether that makes MRAs anti-Semitic. So you've given your interlocutors an extreme and indefensible position (religiously motivated genital cutting) and whe…
/r/MensRights27/12/14 07:13 AM
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Not a bad commentator for a feminist, but I don't see what this has to do with men's rights.
/r/MensRights27/12/14 07:00 AM
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You're assuming I have a black-and-white perception about relationships that isn't true--marriages necessitate compromise, and because of society's ingrained view of men as sacrificers, that compromise comes largely from men. Say you find a girl you care about and you two date. Who's going to be doing the majority of paying? Guys. Not because the woman demanded it, but because social pressure to "be the guy" and "be chivalrous" and "be attentive" will be more important than your wallet. Sure, yo…
/r/MensRights27/12/14 03:38 AM
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False. You don't have to be a man to realize men are institutionally neglected and unfairly targeted. But you do have to be an asshole to look at a person's gender and unfairly target them by saying "I can't trust you because you're a man." Or in your case, "because you're a woman."
/r/MensRights26/12/14 05:25 PM
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Not only that, but did you catch McCaskill's ominous line about how sexual assault is an under reported crime "and always will be"?? What does that even mean? Does she NOT want victims to come forward? Would that disrupt her narrative of the omnipresent (read: terrorist) threat of sexual assault? Do these people care more about stopping crime or about glorifying victimhood?
/r/MensRights26/12/14 05:21 PM
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I think the reason why you were down voted is because you're mistaking a difference of degree for a difference of kind in feminism. The behaviors of the op's feminist interlocutor aren't substantively any different from mainstream feminist behavior--just more extreme. There's no fundamentally different ideology between mainstream and fringe feminists in the way there is a different ideology between mainstream and fringe MRAs. Mainstream MRAs believe in an evidence-based appraisal of oppression a…
/r/MensRights26/12/14 07:21 AM
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Ahh, the old napalm tactic; insult your opponent as viciously as possible (preferably with emphasis on personal faults) and exit the arena as fast as possible. Very popular in middle school and mainstream feminism. "Well, you're a poopyhead, so there!"
/r/MensRights26/12/14 07:11 AM
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It's not that marriage provides no more benefits than porn, but that marriage has so many serious drawbacks that porn does not. Porn doesn't uproot your life and turn you into a walking wallet for others' needs; porn doesn't manipulate you to do what it wants by withholding sex; porn doesn't stop being affectionate a few years in and then blame you for not "spicing up" the porn. Porn doesn't stray and leave you, or demand money from you after it's gone. Porn doesn't have little pornlets that req…
/r/MensRights22/12/14 04:30 PM
1

All I want from feminists is some semblance of humanity and rational thinking. I've been disappointed thus far.
/r/MensRights21/12/14 01:09 PM
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As far as I remember, you can be a conscientious objector, you can voluntarily submit yourself to a court-martial (which is technically a trial, not just an inevitable firing) to implicate your CO for not following proper military procedure, and you can take your complaint up the chain of command. Plenty of different options for not just doing whatever your CO says regardless of whether it makes sense. Even shit details can be challenged if it can be proven that your CO is singling you out unnec…
/r/MensRights20/12/14 02:02 AM
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Yet everybody knows that Valerie Solanas was just a misunderstood genius who wrote "The SCUM Manifesto" as a piece of critical artwork before going on a shooting spree trying to kill Andy Warhol. Right??
/r/MensRights17/12/14 10:37 AM
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I found the discussion to be long-winded and unnecessary, especially since this isn't a medical issue and isn't a scientific issue. Rape accusation is a criminal accusation, and unless you were born yesterday and don't understand the "innocent until proven guilty" part of the legal system, you CAN'T just "believe" an accusation of a crime. You need to PROVE that a crime has been committed beyond a reasonable doubt. You need evidence, facts, testimony, and impartial proceedings. You need the lega…
/r/MensRights12/12/14 04:29 PM
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If you wouldn't have your daughter cut on in any way, why would you have your son cut on in any way? Social pressure? Tell your boyfriend that he needs to put you in a niqab and force you to stay home, because some societies consider that the appropriate way to treat women. And then when he's grown up, tell him "our son's body; our son's choice."
/r/MensRights12/12/14 04:19 PM
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Nope--she'll be taking the job away from the functional male firefighter, and then demanding that she not be unduly pressured to pull her weight (which she failed the entrance exam testing her ability to do so) because sexism.
/r/MensRights12/12/14 04:03 PM
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The article mentions that 95% of the men who take that exam pass, while only 57% of women do. That's a pretty compelling statistic, showing that while firefighters may be fit, almost all of the male applicants are capable of passing the basic physical exam while barely more than half of the female applicants are.
/r/MensRights12/12/14 04:02 PM
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Obligatory Lena Dunham reference.
/r/MensRights17/11/14 09:25 PM
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Don't respond. People who troll that hard will never want to change their minds. Now, if you have someone who is a close friend who says something like that, you can subtly try to influence them by saying "wow, that's not something I can take lightly, considering that most men have been systematically oppressed right alongside women, and that women were 50% of the aristocracy that oppressed both men and women in previous generations. That's sorta not cool."
/r/MensRights17/11/14 09:15 PM
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If I remember correctly, Taylor had received the shirt as a handmade gift, and his personal style is already outlandish (he has large tattoos all over his body and even got the Rosetta lander tattooed on his leg). He's a dork, not a sexist. And obviously he's not aware of media perception, because he's not a professional media personality like a politician. But all of these reasons are excuses, when Taylor shouldn't have to make any damn excuses. The dude threw a dart from earth and hit a bull's…
/r/MensRights17/11/14 03:30 AM
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It sounds like feminists need a better, more informed feminist movement. the MRM didn't lose its collective shit because a groundbreaking researcher wore a tacky shirt and then inundated him with bad press and online harassment until he broke down crying and apologizing for being a human being. Seriously--fuck any movement that would do that. And fuck anyone who would support any movement that would do that.
/r/MensRights17/11/14 03:21 AM
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I would actually disagree and say that feminism DOES focus on the right of feminists to be listened to and to have everyone obey their wishes. There is almost no discussion of individual feminists' responsibilities to take care of society's woes, and even when systemic problems are discussed, they are not discussed from the perspective of "what can we do to solve the problem?" but "what can we do to understand and listen to those who are talking about the problem?" I see this as a strange discon…
/r/MensRights14/11/14 08:59 PM
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Upvoted. And like this article points out: http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/2m7wc6/a_male_feminist_asked_teenage_boys_why_they_dont/ ... the qualms people have with feminism, even teenagers, is not that they "hate women," but that feminists leave no room for others in the conversation. When there are actual, measurable problems that can be solved by conscientious activism, and yet people are maligned, harassed, and even ostracized or kicked out of their jobs simply for pointing out th…
/r/MensRights14/11/14 08:45 PM
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Especially without requiring the "actors" to sign release forms. Every single person fooled into being in this video should sue for defamation of character. Textbook case--tricking people into the appearance of coercing sex from an intoxicated person and then putting the video online for lulz and profits.
/r/MensRights14/11/14 08:24 PM
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Exactly--I see the same shift all the time from developed to developing world, especially Afghanistan. My retort is to ask if they know who bacha bazi are; they're the underage boys that Afghani men use as sex slaves because women are forbidden in the Quran from engaging in prostitution: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bacha_bazi Even in terrible, war-torn areas, oppression is never a one-sided issue.
/r/MensRights12/11/14 08:16 PM
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"Equal honor" is not the same thing as being placed ahead of and in a more prominent position than the vast majority of veterans, especially those who died serving. It would be like saying "yes, there were plenty of humans who died in WWI, but let's make our biggest monuments about the horses who died. Because we have to remember who is truly important."
/r/MensRights12/11/14 08:13 PM
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To what extent does that No Bullshit, Work-Hard-Play-Hard, "hostile work environment" of these extremely lucrative fields contribute to their growth and success? Is the feminist "toxic masculinity" narrative a threat to economic sustainability as well as to gender equality? I would question the notion that "toxic masculinity" is to blame for mass mobbing and negative reactions to social justice warfare; instead, what seems to be the impetus for the backlash is the lash, i.e., the social justice …
/r/MensRights12/11/14 08:01 PM
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Don't forget though that western influences were ALSO on the other side of the world--France had just spent 50 years getting Vietnam under its control, Britain still controlled Hong Kong, and the US had (and still has) naval bases from WWII fully staffed. The earlier Korean War was heavily influenced by American and Russian interests rather than the interests of the native Koreans, most of whom had already suffered under Japanese imperial rule prior to being occupied by the two powers. If the US…
/r/MensRights12/11/14 07:55 PM
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Don't forget though that western influences were ALSO on the other side of the world--France had just spent 50 years getting Vietnam under its control, Britain still controlled Hong Kong, and the US had (and still has) naval bases from WWII fully staffed. The earlier Korean War was heavily influenced by American and Russian interests rather than the interests of the native Koreans, most of whom had already suffered under Japanese imperial rule prior to being occupied by the two powers. If the US…
/r/MensRights12/11/14 07:54 PM
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Yeah--it's also a lie; she connived and manipulated her sister into sleeping in bed with her until Lena was seventeen years old, not seven. As in, this is not talking about a child's unaware curiosity, but an adolescent's and even a teenager's knowing manipulation, molestation, and sexual abuse. Full stop.
/r/MensRights09/11/14 10:26 PM
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You just wrote my story too. Just think of all the conscientious activists that feminists have willfully alienated simply for asking for some smidgen of focus on problems that primarily affect them and the people they care about.
/r/MensRights09/11/14 10:18 PM
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Eletheros has a point, though he didn't elucidate it very well; women were never considered "breeding machines" even in the lowest classes of medieval or early modern society in the west. Laws have existed since legal courts were instituted protecting women's interests both in sexual and procreative matters; laws against rape and protecting women in marriage are as old as Rabbinical councils on the Torah or the Code of Hammurabi: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babylonian_law#Family_law And as usua…
/r/MensRights09/11/14 10:10 PM
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Actually, that's the opposite of helpful--feminists have spent 160 years creating a narrative of their own helplessness as a political expedient for their own agenda. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Declaration_of_Sentiments Note that this declaration was written prior to blacks being freed from slavery, prior to universal male suffrage, and prior to voting being loosed from land ownership. In this sense, the uniqueness of women's plight is lessened by the fact that the entirety of world history up…
/r/MensRights07/11/14 03:30 PM
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Except that the "free" market includes massively unfair restrictions on which medications you can buy and how much medical instruments and procedures cost. When people in the UK can buy medications at the equivalent of $15 a bottle and we have to pay $15-45 per pill for the name-brand (for which corporations have bought our congressmen to make a legal requirement for the US population), you know the system is broken. Do corporations have ANY incentive to operate under a free market? The medical …
/r/MensRights07/11/14 03:21 PM

Democrat-controlled "areas" are big cities where lots of people need lots of resources. They are economic producers, not consumers, of the nation's GDP and the biggest draws for business and corporate interests. Republican-controlled "areas" are largely uninhabited farmlands of the Midwest and non-productive consumers of the nation's GDP in the South and the Southwest. They are NOT draws for business and corporate interests, because they have no ability to cater to big businesses and corporation…
/r/MensRights05/11/14 03:29 PM
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Ick--I don't care if you might have a point, I don't want that psycho's face anywhere near /MR, and never ever as a meme. People who do horrible things for crazy reasons shouldn't be paraded around by media pop culture.
/r/MensRights04/11/14 11:30 PM
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You're fighting the good fight here--trolls know they are not fighting with facts on their side or a rational and considered perspective, so they go full-bore and attempt the most radical and vitriolic responses possible in order to burn out their ire quickly and "get tired" of the conversation. In fact, I've begun to see when people "tire" of a conversation after being asked in any manner to justify their assertions as an automatic white flag surrendering any legitimacy. Trolls don't want to be…
/r/MensRights04/11/14 11:20 PM
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Feminists have already started calling for women to wear all black to call attention to the violent and vicious nature of the male gaze, like Women in Black: http://womeninblack.org/ Next thing you know, they'll start telling women to deny men the right to look at their faces, saying that they are taking the power of their beauty back from men and forcing men to look at something other than their faces: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/womens-life/11120588/Muslim-women-reveal-why-they-wear-the-v…
/r/MensRights03/11/14 08:27 PM
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I thought that too until I saw this redditor's breakdown of Dunham's language: http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/2l6d9w/lena_dunham_i_told_a_story_about_being_a_weird_7/clrxcy1 Just imagine how you would react if Lena Dunham was Luke Dunham and he was sleeping with, masturbating next to, and conniving ways to sexually molest his sister from toddler age until he was SEVENTEEN. Yeah. Child molestation. No doubt about it.
/r/MensRights03/11/14 08:20 PM
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She's a woman--grace is a defining part of her existence regardless of how bad a person she is, like angels on Supernatural. She could write gloriously sexy narratives about being a 30 year old woman and plying a 14 year old girl with alcohol in order to molest her, and write those narratives from the girl's perspective by saying "if it was rape, then it was good rape." And feminists would love her. Heck, they would have a whole Valentine's Day celebration in her honor, having her words be salac…
/r/MensRights03/11/14 08:13 PM
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I think we should just go ahead and start calling it "The Church of Feminism." They have long since abandoned reality and have delved instead into the realm of fantasy and myth.
/r/MensRights03/11/14 08:05 PM
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The problem with "following" mods is that many people are mods in multiple forums and edit them simultaneously, so it can very easily look like a mod is being "targeted" simply because he or she happens to be active in the very forums where people are discussing things.
/r/MensRights28/10/14 08:21 PM
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I would disagree with the assumption that a woman asking for help makes her "frail"--in fact, asking for help in any community-organized culture is a sign of strength, of teamwork, and of mutual respect. Men are culturally ostracized because patriarchy theory has given people the (wrong) belief that men MUST do everything themselves, because they are the ones that apparently run everything in society. Women have "sisterhood," they have own-group preference, and they have a sense of community fel…
/r/MensRights26/10/14 04:54 PM
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We do need to admit that there is something going on with men, boys, and mass shootings. This is the exact same logic as saying "we need to admit that there is something going on with Muslims, Islam, and terrorism." Yes, because out of a billion people, ten thousand or even a hundred thousand commit terrorist acts, usually because they are mentally unstable and being prodded to commit those acts by similarly unstable or sociopathic religious zealots. Again--is there a problem with mass shootings…
/r/MensRights26/10/14 04:48 PM
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Nope. Not unless you trace the lineage back ~2000 years. Also, utilizing that argument to claim that there's no functional difference between Muslims and Jews is like claiming there's no difference between Japanese and Han Chinese. (Hint: there is.) I say nope on your nope: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semitic_people#Ethnicity_and_race Also, if you're claiming the "radioactive fire" argument, you should address that Iran's end goal under Ahmadinejad (and the ayatollahs) was/is to nuke the shit o…
/r/MensRights26/10/14 04:31 PM
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You're fucking kidding, right? Institutional anti-Semitism is part and parcel of Middle Eastern Muslim countries You get the important part of that sentence, right? Of fucking course there's going to be anti-Israel sentiment when Israel is the nuclear staging point for American-instigated violence against Muslims in the Middle East--who do you think gave Israel the nukes?? And Israel has never signed the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, so they have willingly cut themselves off from the rest of…
/r/MensRights25/10/14 04:55 PM
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That's my differentiation with MGTOW--there is absolutely nothing I can see stopping a MGTOW from dating except his own lack of responsibility over his own life. Like any business venture, you get involved with people who are likely to benefit your portfolio, who bring something to the table you want; if they bring baggage you don't want or that outweighs their value to you, nobody in their right mind would advocate you continue to be business partners with them. That's just bad business. Well, …
/r/MensRights21/10/14 06:16 PM
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Actually, belief in an international Zionist conspiracy is exceedingly common among most Muslim countries. I think we're going to have to start calling this the Aslan fallacy--"most Muslim countries" is the problem, because all you cite are the extremist countries of Iran and Saudi Arabia, where anti-Israel sentiment is more to blame than anything inherently anti-Semitic in Islam. The most populous Islamic countries are not in the Middle East and are not involved with decades-old land-wars in th…
/r/MensRights21/10/14 06:08 PM
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Thanks--but we all have a part to play in promoting the facts of the case for men's rights. Spaces that simply happen to be populated by males have been demonized as what feminists will call "traditionally male"--a fallacy, because it assumes both a repressive/exclusive pattern of refusing women entry and a misogynistic attitude that women must accept as "normal" upon entering; in other words, they are demonizing the very presence of a numerical majority of males as inherently sexist and violent…
/r/MensRights20/10/14 08:13 PM
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Most feminists would actually probably agree with you on that pitch in theory; in practice, things might get problematic when you actually get to "duties and obligations." Such as the right of men to legally surrender their paternal obligations when they no longer want to be parents. Equally problematic is the surrendering of preferential treatment of women in areas where men are unfairly targeted as problems to be solved rather than humans to be accommodated and helped--education, prison, famil…
/r/MensRights20/10/14 08:00 PM
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That would be the case... except that Muslim extremists represent a universally-reviled extreme minority of Muslims throughout the world. The vast majority of Muslims, as well as other populations, recognize extremism and terrorism as abhorrent and wrong. Jezebel, on the other hand, is a very popular blog both amongst feminists and other uninformed folk online, perpetuating negative stereotypes through humor and receiving general chuckles from almost everyone. Now, if you live in Iran and you ma…
/r/MensRights20/10/14 07:49 PM
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Shit--I wish that all men had to worry about was gaming, gyms, and clubs. I'd be happy if feminists weren't hijacking prison reform, or suicide prevention resources, or workplace fatality awareness, or homeless shelter exclusivity, or laws against infant genital mutilation. Fuck--women can have the gyms and the games if it means that fewer men suffer and die because of a resource imbalance favoring the minority of sufferers (in this case, women).
/r/MensRights20/10/14 07:43 PM
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Apologies--I assumed you were the same poster as up above; apparently, you've just drunk his kool-aid. let's put this to bed now. Name me one thing that a woman wouldn't lie about. Yes--let's put this to bed: Name me one thing a black person wouldn't lie about. That must prove that all black people are liars, right? Name me one thing a Jew wouldn't lie about. Jews = liars, right? Name me one thing a man wouldn't lie about. Men--now those bastards all have to be liars, right? What--this isn't the…
/r/MensRights19/10/14 08:09 PM
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I agree with Diana, actually--traditionalism espouses an outdated view of a single-income family and binaristic gender roles that no longer make sense in today's market or social world. First and foremost, with wage stagnation and income inequality at an all-time high, it is simply irresponsible for one partner to willfully quit working for any long period of time. For all the women including JudgyBitch thinking that it's just up to choice, do you think your salary alone will support your entire…
/r/MensRights19/10/14 08:02 PM
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Strawman? Strawman? They lie about everything, I've yet to find ANYTHING they won't lie about. http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/2jb40r/the_war_on_college_men_goes_too_far_28_harvard/claix6r "They" don't do anything. "They" is a meaningless strawman in itself. "They" are the group you are targeting with your bullshit, and every subsequent post has been walking your bullshit back because it's obvious your bullshit was bad and you should have felt bad. Now, rather than simply apologizing…
/r/MensRights19/10/14 07:37 PM
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If I remember correctly, manual water drawing in Burkina Faso and elsewhere have traditionally been performed by women; thus, it would make sense that they are skewing their efforts towards women. If it is the case that the tradition no longer holds up, then the bias would be unfair; as it is, it seems logical.
/r/MensRights19/10/14 07:33 PM
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Logic fails: the concept of a woman's college needing the diversity officer to be a woman the smear campaign towards a transman who could only get into the university because he put "female" as his gender (so diverse! so inclusive!) not one single mention of Title IX or equal opportunity anywhere
/r/MensRights19/10/14 07:30 PM
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Just to clarify, im not saying every woman will lie about anything all the time, im saying that the group as a whole is capable of telling any lie and do tell lies in their own individual circumstances which will cover the entire spectrum of lies. Again, capable of lying =/= "covering the entire spectrum of lies, any more than "capable of driving to work" = driving to any drivable place on the planet. Just because one person tells one lie (and let's not be stupid here--men are just as capable of…
/r/MensRights19/10/14 07:17 PM
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"Capable of lying" =/= "lying about everything." He's being a troll because this is a heavily upvoted post and upvotes bring out the trolls.
/r/MensRights16/10/14 05:23 AM
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That's what the Irish did, and the Polish, and Blacks, and every other minority group in America that wasn't born with silver spoons in their mouths. Minority groups in the US have never asked for handouts--they have expected to perform the responsibilities required for the rights they were demanding. Suffragettes actually undercut the original suffragist movement for women's vote because it actually supported women's involvement in WWI. It was only after the war was already wrapping up that the…
/r/MensRights16/10/14 03:41 AM
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Can't talk about male suicide on campus--that's not diverse enough! Sure, men are the majority of suicide victims, and men have a proportionally small presence in mental health programs for suicide victims, but why should facts matter? If it doesn't involve the actual core demographic of diversity-specialization (women), then it isn't "diverse." I wonder if diversity programs on campus would be interested in opening up the field of workplace deaths to diversification. Hey--equal playing field, r…
/r/MensRights16/10/14 03:33 AM
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Not to be antagonistic, but it doesn't sound like you're espousing feminist philosophies here. MRAs don't devalue women in any sense, and they are furthermore against feminist devaluation of women by teaching and encouraging victim-complexes and learned helplessness (also known as Patriarchy theory). MRAs would love to be parents and caregivers with real equal rights according to the law when it comes to parental choice and custody arrangements; respect is optional when taking away someone's par…
/r/MensRights16/10/14 03:27 AM
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I am a pure modernist, and as such Feminism best fits my ideas about gender essentialism and the roles we can/should take in society as men, women, or other identities. Several of these terms seem ill-fitting--what do you mean by "modernist"? There are multiple different ideas which one could conceivably put under "modernism," but does that take into account Postmodernism? Millenialism? The current era in which we are living? Is this generational or based on philosophy/literary criticism? And th…
/r/MensRights14/10/14 09:40 PM
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i think you're mistaking descriptive colloquial language for actual demands. There's nothing colloquial about "Take Back The Night" or "#YesAllWomen", unless you are trying to say that those movements are specifically bullshitting to drum up support for an idea they don't actually believe in. What, are we not supposed to take feminists at their word anymore? But only when they're intending to be taken seriously, like Anita Sarkeesian seeing sexism in the only two women in a Hitman game you can k…
/r/MensRights13/10/14 07:05 PM
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Sorry--forcing others to treat you with a superior amount of respect purely due to your gender is not a "right." When feminists demand the "right" not to suffer violence on the street at night, they are not asking for an actual right--because how would "not being the target of violence" be enforced? That's impossible, unless you presume that NOBODY ought to be rightfully targeted for violence, which is the stance of the law now. That's why street violence is illegal assault and not a fun night o…
/r/MensRights09/10/14 07:19 PM
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That sucks. Traditionalism and regressive attitudes towards gender should not trump ability and skill in the field.
/r/MensRights09/10/14 07:03 PM
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Think of the gender pronouns as referring to different characters--oftentimes transvestites will have a female persona or character that they dress up to become, such as Tom Neuwirth's "Conchita." If you're talking about the character, it's "she"; if you're talking about the performer outside of his performance, it's "he." "Her" beard might not actually be "his" beard, but it's still fabulous. And fabulously gender-norm bending.
/r/MensRights08/10/14 09:25 PM
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Seriously, dude--her husband just died. Not cool.
/r/MensRights07/10/14 09:17 PM
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It's important to point out that the dogmatism expressed by gender-ideologue feminists in 2014 has not changed at all from that espoused by gender-ideologue feminists in 1970, regardless of the massive improvements in society for women and the overall betterment of social institutions and welfare since 1970. I speculate that this is because these gender-ideologues are actually merely the recipients of bad education--probably a well-meaning but uninformed professor who has not read a single book …
/r/MensRights07/10/14 09:14 PM
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Wurst is a male transvestite--as far as I can tell, the beard is either not real, or enhanced with makeup: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conchita_Wurst Folk who do the transvestite thing aren't necessarily transgender, but playing with gender norms as represented by clothing is definitely a hairy proposition. Transvestites experience some of the highest rates of assaults simply for playing around with sartorial gender norms, even though many of them are actually straight men in their own private …
/r/MensRights07/10/14 09:01 PM
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Men who speak out against this are easily dismissed and bullied into silence by being portrayed as angry misogynists who are in fear of "losing their privileges". Women are much harder to slander. Which is why they need to speak up. Excellent, excellent point!
/r/MensRights06/10/14 08:41 PM
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It's quite easy for feminists to "fight" for things when the entire western world is spending hundreds of millions of taxpayer dollars funding organizations devoted to fighting for them at every level of local, state, national, and international government. It's even easier when ideologically-motivated feminist academics at every single institution of higher learning are collectively paid hundreds of millions of dollars in high professorial salaries to continue publishing, promoting, and campaig…
/r/MensRights06/10/14 08:40 PM
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I agreed with everything except for the silly "passing" discussion in reference to Conchita Wurst and transwomen having beards. Let me preface what I'm saying by remarking that I am not trans and have not had to struggle with the issues of trying to remake my own gender identity through outward socially-obligated patterns of dress and hair, but that bitch was motherfucking FABULOUS. Don't hate.
/r/MensRights06/10/14 08:33 PM
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Except it wasn't for personal amusement--it was to prove a point. That's an important thing to do on reddit or anywhere else--to show rather than tell people's biases online. That's why self.posts to MR, even though they might be faked, stay up--because how we react as a community to the issues of the day to some extent defines our community. And when troll posters change the post after the fact, we make sure a bot copies the ORIGINAL post so that we can even call them out on their trolling. We …
/r/MensRights06/10/14 08:20 PM
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The second half is false--feminism in fact REQUIRES patriarchy. Alain Soral notes that behind every bourgeois feminist is a subjugated working-class woman who has to support her lifestyle: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Do5zrdTb-yI Part of what we are doing as a movement is creating a way of understanding men's issues OUTSIDE of the simplistic and contradictory construction of "patriarchalism"--an undefined bogeyman with roots in Freudian and Lacanian psychoanalysis and bearing little or no rel…
/r/MensRights02/10/14 06:51 PM
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All we ever hear is that women need the opportunity to discuss and organize away from the supposed judgmental viewpoint of men. We literally spend millions of taxpayer dollars funding political action committees, organizations, foundations, and initiatives which exclusively support women's issues and women's membership. How dare men ever have anything THEIR own, though, right?
/r/MensRights02/10/14 06:42 PM
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I prefer the "It's On Us" campaign--when women are the victims of violence, it's men's fault. Even if men didn't do the violence, it's still their fault. Even if men didn't even perpetrate the violence, it's still men's fault. Even if men have no legal obligation and might even incur violence themselves for intervening, it's still men's fault. Feminists might at least give us all fucking badges and batons if we're going to be the policemen protecting and serving women's privilege.
/r/MensRights02/10/14 06:32 PM
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Yeah--how dare people attempt to show misperceptions of gender in online communities! It's almost as if they don't want anyone to see how their community ACTUALLY feels about the subjects being discussed!
/r/MensRights02/10/14 06:25 PM
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The very concept of "He For She" makes women look like helpless children. This isn't even "She for She," implying sisterhood and communal responsibility. This isn't even "We For She," which is one-sided and focused on a minority of victims of violence and social problems, but at least community-minded. "He For She" blatantly states that men have all the power (even when they don't) and that women need men to do their work for them (even when THEY don't). It's regressive and gender-traditionalist…
/r/MensRights30/09/14 10:42 PM
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That's the funny thing--that Elam article was not only roundly criticized when it first came out, but since then has been quite literally THE ONLY hyperbolic statement of its kind to come from the mainstream MRM. Like, literally the only one. I've not seen one similarly extremist position stated by any MRAs including Elam since, and anybody who remotely sounds like such an extremist is quickly and publicly criticized and downvoted. Even today, there's a self.post called Mangina Infestation in th…
/r/MensRights29/09/14 07:24 PM
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"I'm such an anarchist, I hate the Patriarchy! We should rise up together as a culture and declare war on the Patriarchy, starting with political activism!"
/r/MensRights29/09/14 07:17 PM
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Indeed--part of the "it's different because it's a vagina" reflexive argument IS the result of feminism's attempt to create a "special gender" around womanhood. Sure, boys have feelings, and bodies, and we should treat them nicely (sometimes), but they're not special. If we REALLY want to do things to them... even illegal, immoral things... even cutting on their private parts... we can. It's not because we're evil; we just see those baby boys as just not as valuable as a baby girl. Baby girls ar…
/r/MensRights29/09/14 07:12 PM
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Is giving someone an unwanted lapdance not sexual assault?
/r/MensRights29/09/14 07:06 PM
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That's not the worst of it--SheRides is most likely going to apply for state or even federal funding because they're promoting "diversity". Because if you can't make a successful business, you get the government to force people to pay you for being unsuccessful!
/r/MensRights29/09/14 07:05 PM
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Then how do you explain terrorism? Are a bunch of desert hillbillies "the strong?" Are they "the weak?" Then why are massive governments so uniquely incapable of defeating them? Why is it that incredibly "strong" military dictatorships and dynasties fall apart after barely a generation or two, while relatively "weak" monarchies and laissez-faire systems of cooperative government continue to grow and achieve unprecedented stability and success? And who determines what is defined by "strength" and…
/r/MensRights26/09/14 08:03 PM
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Do you mean the eugenics movement which popped up in the 18-motherfucking-70s and which inspired phrenology and a resurgence of state-sponsored anti-Semitism in Europe? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Darwinism You mean THAT concept? You bet your ass I refuse it.
/r/MensRights25/09/14 08:45 PM
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Yep--no argument.
/r/MensRights23/09/14 04:25 PM
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More posturing in the pretense that somehow women suffering ANY abuse or ANY violence is somehow worse than men suffering the vast majority of abuse and violence for the entirety of recorded history. White Knighting at its most basic.
/r/MensRights23/09/14 04:25 PM
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one world You want argumentation? Please define--this term makes no sense. Are you living in a different world? You think the survival of the human race is all that matters and that your culture is immaterial. Are you a cultural Marxist/materialist? No? Then all culture is immaterial; it is a social influence, not a biological determinant. And yes, you are projecting your own argumentative inadequacies onto me. Which argument looks more like the above? While this is a social decision and value, …
/r/MensRights23/09/14 04:19 PM
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I'm going to take the volume of my reply to your equally voluminous reply as the whole of the argument; whatever this is, I'm going to discount. Obviously, if you had anything interesting to say, you would have said it rather than just make simplistic gainsaying and nonsense twitter-riffic replies.
/r/MensRights23/09/14 03:58 PM
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While this is a social decision and value, the root cause goes all the way back to genetics and breeding. Men are more variable than women, and women are the limiting reproductive factor. Mother nature set up the rules for all mammalian species such that males vary much more than females do, the males who are unfit for the environment die off, the males who survive breed with the women (who, being clustered near the center of genetic expression, are unlikely to be unsuitable for surviving the en…
/r/MensRights21/09/14 03:31 PM
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He has been--in the court of public opinion, one is always presumed guilty and required to prove one's innocence.
/r/MensRights19/09/14 07:55 PM
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Ooh--I'm so beta. Look at me, all shakin' in my boots because someone called me beta. At least do something original like call me omicron, or mu. I'd love to be an Omicron Knight. And you're right--I may be concern trolling, but I think in this point it makes sense. Newbies to the MRM have been mistaking honest MRAs with scumbags like yourself, so I feel it's important to point out bad behavior like yours to new visitors in order to differentiate it from the MRM in general. So sue me.
/r/MensRights19/09/14 07:39 PM
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I would argue that "disposability" is a trait NEITHER gender should have. The reason why women commit so many fewer crimes than men regardless of the society is generally because people are more lenient on women's criminal behaviors. Look at the criminal justice system in Nordic countries, where criminals are given comparatively lavish accommodations and rehabilitated from their criminal behaviors by addressing the root of the problem of criminality (bad childhoods, poverty, lack of education, p…
/r/MensRights17/09/14 06:57 PM
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This, all you feminist lurkers here, is what is called a "troll." This person is not an MRA, uses language that MRAs don't approve of (calling someone "beta" is a PUA tactic for calling out someone as not being "alpha"), and creates a hostile environment for discussion by spouting hateful nonsense. Take note, because when you read about how hateful MRAs are, this will be who they point to as a "hateful MRA." A troll.
/r/MensRights17/09/14 06:53 PM
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If they really fought the patriarchy, then they would fight the effects that patriarchies have produced, especially the attention placed on women as special groups of vulnerable people whose plight we should care about. I have never seen a mainstream feminist group asking that women not be listened to, not be taken heed of, not be treated as special, not be cared for by society, not be singled out for special protections. Women are the recipients of the majority of family wages, child support pa…
/r/MensRights17/09/14 06:46 PM
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It's done in good faith No, it's not--it's done when the child can't refuse consent or resist. Ask any 18 year old male to allow himself to be mandatorily strapped down and have his penis cut on for religious purposes with no anesthesia. Or don't even ask that--just ask him to have a tooth ripped out without anesthesia. See how many converts you get. it serves a religious purpose (my standing) Infanticide served God's religious purposes, so long as you believe the Egyptian males in the Old Testa…
/r/MensRights15/09/14 06:15 PM
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Indeed--but "regret" shouldn't have anything to do with it, unless you're of the Cee-Lo Green mentality and believe that only conscious people can be raped because unconscious people have no memory of the event. Seriously--his body, his choice. Saying anything else is explicitly condoning bodily violation.
/r/MensRights15/09/14 06:08 PM
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Other posters have already covered coercion, but it should be remembered also that a significant minority of male rapists and (if you include female prison rape and the sexual abuse of minors) a majority of female rapists use objects to forcibly penetrate others. The FBI still doesn't have a clear definition of "being made to penetrate," that is, stimulating unwanted physiological arousal in males for the purposes of penetration; but then again, men as a gender couldn't be raped according to the…
/r/MensRights12/09/14 06:47 PM
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I'm not sure what you find particularly galling about my statements, but I assure you they're not meant with any sort of hate in mind: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coverture Medieval Anglo-Norman practice was to treat women in law courts differently based on whether they were single or married; both civil and criminal courts used financial punishments for certain crimes, especially simple assault and property damage. Since wives were "covered" by their husbands (in the same way that you are "cov…
/r/MensRights12/09/14 06:34 PM

Ctrl + F "patriarchy". Nothing. Oh look--patriarchy theory suddenly disappears when the drinks stop being free and the attention stops flowing in like a fire sale at an orgasm store. Chivalry isn't just dead--chivalry never existed. Men have had to do for women because women were socially privileged to not have to do for themselves. Now women are losing that privilege to simply appear in a room and receive automatic service, and the whining begins. Good. As Karen Straughan says, enthusiastic con…
/r/MensRights10/09/14 07:07 PM
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Good on you then! A lot of your material sounds like stuff Typhon Blue has discussed concerning threat narratives as well. I think a list would be nice, but is also a double-edged sword; while MRAs don't advocate for laws against feminists, they do denigrate the group as a threat, as immoral, and misrepresent (not lies, but in the same neighborhood) feminism based on the actions of feminists. I think the major delineation between the two groups as social justice warriors (because let's face it, …
/r/MensRights10/09/14 06:57 PM
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No--this philosophy has existed throughout the history of recorded western legal tradition. Medieval law courts similarly recorded a number of cases where men were held to be legally responsible for their wives' violent behavior against other women, simply because the court believed that the women couldn't be violent on their own and that some intervening factor (i.e., the man) had to be at fault.
/r/MensRights10/09/14 02:48 PM
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I'm a women's rights activist--I believe that women should have the same rights as everybody else. I'm not a feminist because I don't believe in the feminist version of history where women are an oppressed class and men are an oppressor class simply due to gender.
/r/MensRights10/09/14 02:44 PM
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Cool list--is there a source online I can throw at people who are quick to shove the "hate group" moniker in my face?
/r/MensRights10/09/14 02:39 PM
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You don't need any sources to disprove her point--she is the one making the AUDACIOUS claim that sex drive isn't biological. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, and if she's making you prove a negative by proving her wrong, then she's manipulating you dishonestly and unfairly. Simply put, the very fact of sexual reproduction throughout the animal kingdom provides overwhelming evidence to the contrary. She would literally need the Higgs-Boson particle of social engineering theory…
/r/MensRights09/09/14 04:58 PM
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How to solve that "attention-getting" issue? Put a bunch of women out on the street with bloody crotches and signs saying "Female circumcision is not allowed in America. Why don't baby boys have the same right?"
/r/MensRights09/09/14 04:51 PM
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Socialists/anarchists/communists want workers to keep the full product of their work. There is no one but the individual worker who owns their production. You keep assuming I'm endorsing some class of people who take the worker's production. That's capitalism, not socialism, anarchism, or communism. And yet, most work is NOT 100% reducible to the individual--for instance, the haircutting example I gave. I trade money to you in exchange for a haircut; if you don't give me the haircut I wanted, I …
/r/MensRights29/08/14 06:16 PM
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Human rights aren't mutually exclusive. I don't have to give up my right to life to gain my right to liberty and property.
/r/MensRights27/08/14 07:19 PM
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As writer and activist Maggie McNeill commented on Twitter, I'm skeptical about "solutions" to crimes & social problems "that require establishing a Utopia first." That's the point we keep missing--SJWs aren't seeking to solve real-world problems. They're seeking Heaven, or Rapture, or Columbia. They don't ask what can we do to solve these problems, they ask who can we blame for not having reached the Promised Land yet?
/r/MensRights27/08/14 07:17 PM
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I am not spamming you--you have repeatedly said I provide no counter-arguments, regardless of how many counter-arguments I send to you. When I do send them, you call them spam. I say that if you don't want responses, don't respond. Nobody is forcing you to continue discussing a topic you don't want to continue discussing. However, when you live your life, you ARE required to maintain yourself in some manner. The basis of property rights, as I have argued previously, are founded in the maintenanc…
/r/MensRights27/08/14 07:08 PM
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Please reread my previous replies until you understand them. If you ever replied with anything else besides "[silliness]", perhaps I would. But as it stands, you're only NOW elucidating your point. And as it stands, your argument lacks nuance. It's just your subjective opinion that you own such land. And it's just your subjective opinion that you own your body. If we were to follow your communist philosophy to its natural conclusion, if you claim ownership over your own kidneys, it's aggression …
/r/MensRights26/08/14 08:14 PM
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That's not an argument, it's an assertion. I argued (eg) that land ownership requires violence because it requires trespassing laws (and similar threats/force) to enforce. Hey--at least I got a few more characters out of you this time. Here's where your argument breaks down though: land ownership requires violence because it requires trespassing laws Emphasis mine--"enforcing" a law that someone else cannot take your property without your consent is at best using force to counter force; I would …
/r/MensRights26/08/14 07:20 PM
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There's an old adage that you can tell what someone wants to hide by what they try to minimize in their speech; in the first two minutes, we hear that this is going to be a speech about "Where we're heading now, how we pull back, how we restore a respect for the traditional roles of men and women." And how this is categorically NOT To undermine women's dignity, but to "protect it." And that the speaker is NOT attacking women, but trying to "help" women. So how does he start off his talk about "h…
/r/MensRights25/08/14 12:39 PM
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Womyn.
/r/MensRights25/08/14 12:25 PM
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All of them, probably--controversy = pageviews, regardless of who the shill of the week is.
/r/MensRights25/08/14 12:22 PM
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To be frank, your post is not an argument for or against anything & you are trying to make this personal (about me & you.) Claiming a lie over and over doesn't make it real. I already directly responded to your silly ownership-violence assertion (because you still haven't given any evidence for your claim, just restated it too!) here: It is not "violence" for capitalist to own impersonal means of production like factories and time-saving machines; it is the very way industrial production happens…
/r/MensRights25/08/14 12:10 PM
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And don't forget that when people open up, they might say things you don't like. If feminists' reactions to the most innocuously worded academic discussions of men's issues are any indicator, having the average man say anything about men's issues is tantamount to declaring war.
/r/MensRights25/08/14 01:52 AM
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You keep asking me for "evidence" as if the burden of proof is on me to disprove Marxism, rather than on you as the proponent of Marxism to explain how Marxist class warfare is somehow NOT informing current extreme ideological feminist thought. Have you reduced your own argument to the point that you forgot what you were arguing about? You know I warned you about giving arguments on a postage stamp, that they were easy to misinterpret? Well, it's not my damn fault if you can't write to save your…
/r/MensRights25/08/14 01:36 AM
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Just asserting things (without evidence/reasoning) is not attempting to persuade anyone. It's not argument. An argument is a form of this: "X is true because of Y evidence/reasoning." So where is your argument then? In my posts, I have referenced Marx and Engels, both in their personal and professional capacities as cited authorities, Hegel, and given multiple thought-experiments to show how critiques of Marxist thought are both warranted and necessary (and that I do actually understand the topi…
/r/MensRights22/08/14 04:38 PM
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Do we need to go back to the Argument Clinic for you to understand what an argument is? Do I need to cite the dictionary definition? a reason or set of reasons given with the aim of persuading others that an action or idea is right or wrong. You're not trying to persuade anybody of anything. In two comment sets now, you have attempted to pass along an assumed definition of "violence" that now somehow includes "force" simply because the term "enforce" has the word "force" in it, regardless of the…
/r/MensRights21/08/14 02:17 PM
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Seriously--I gave you detailed, well-argued meaty responses, and you don't even have the decency to respond with any argument lasting longer than an epigram? If nothing else, you should simply be ashamed of yourself for not taking the time to actually care about changing my mind. You're a terrible advocate for your cause if the above statements are the most energetic statements you can muster. Marx and Engels are not good authorities to cite for your case, mainly because they themselves weren't …
/r/MensRights20/08/14 04:21 PM
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Actually, it's not a baseless attack on Marx at all; Marx was cribbing from Hegel's Phenomenology of Spirit, where the Master-Slave Dialectic is drawn from. In that dialectic, which becomes Marx's concept of capitalist exploitation, the Master (which it should be pointed out is a part of a single personality, because any bullshit can be substantiated when ideas are taken out of context) is owner of others' production because he threatens them with death if they do not produce, while Slave mitiga…
/r/MensRights19/08/14 04:18 PM
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The worst part is I'm sure some feminists actually think this way, that refusing to let someone justify their behavior based on bad evidence is somehow violating their rights. It's as if you're not just wrong for disagreeing with their viewpoint, you're somehow violent. Imagine if we put that into the education system--"your teachers cannot tell you that your answer is wrong without violating your civil liberties. Please substitute any bullshit answer you like and you will still get credit."
/r/MensRights19/08/14 04:05 PM
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Is this a good thing? It sure is. For these men, marriage is important, but it doesn't define them. If it doesn't last, they won't be destroyed. For a man, the ability to realize that he's not happy -- and he's going to do something about it, rather than be passive and accept whatever comes -- is empowering. He is claiming his right to feel fulfilled in relationships and sex, regardless of what society may expect of him. RESPECT THE COCK. Because equality for men apparently means women get to ac…
/r/MensRights17/08/14 04:36 AM
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In this article: women treat men the way they treat clothing, and the author believes it's the men's fault for not being everything the woman wants PLUS everything she doesn't even know she wants. At no point does the author ever ask what women's responsibility in relationships is.
/r/MensRights17/08/14 04:31 AM
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YES--exactly what I DIDN'T see in this article. Seemingly conscious and rational women have partners who are exactly what they state they want--so they leave them. Now--if this were a romantic comedy, who would be the schlub begging to get back together with the perfect partner? THE WOMAN? Of course not. This author, like everyone else, seems to think that the men must simply do more, be more, be this, be that, and simply acquiesce to EVEN MORE of their wives' whims. Maybe we should come with 30…
/r/MensRights17/08/14 04:29 AM
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Yeah--"you do you" until suddenly it's time to pay the check--go try telling your sweetums "you do you, hon!" as you pay half the bill and walk out the door.
/r/MensRights17/08/14 04:26 AM
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I have no sympathy for the guy who equated marriage with rape; that wasn't why I commented. I commented on YOUR concept that we should not generalize our own experiences because it makes the MRM "look bad." For one thing, that is quite insulting to the people who suffer injustice due to a biased court system, or an uncaring medical field, or a blind and death-happy society that will send off millions of young men to die simply because they're "acceptable losses." But for another, it's wrong-head…
/r/MensRights17/08/14 04:04 AM
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Who's we exactly? You tell me: This is why people look down on the MRA movement. Generalizing things because of your bad experience is no different from the things we suffer from. And if you say this: I personally ask these questions for everyone regardless of gender. Then you're sort of a horrible person. Like what, because lots of women die in Saudi Arabia, we should just assume that more women dying is just par for the course? That we shouldn't be outraged every time such human rights abuses …
/r/MensRights13/08/14 06:44 PM
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False--when women disproportionately suffer violence, we don't ask about intentions. When women disproportionately die, we don't ask whether their death was out of the norm. When women suffer from bad laws and worse relationships, we don't question their own ability to take it like a woman. So why should we do such things when bad things happen disproportionately to men?
/r/MensRights12/08/14 05:39 PM
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I'm not a fan of ReturnOfKings and their desperately unattractive PUA obsession, but I'm also not a fan of Jezebel and their attention-seeking salacious piss-yellow "journalism". The two of them should just go hate-fuck each other in the corner and leave the rest of us alone.
/r/MensRights12/08/14 05:37 PM
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Once again, the media shows that those who have the most social and empathetic impact on people's perceptions are WOMEN. Even when it comes to men's issues, even when it comes down to the forced genital cutting of infants for religious reasons, women's voices speak louder and carry farther than men's. How is that a symptom of patriarchy again?
/r/MensRights12/08/14 05:29 PM
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Indeed--the problem with most MRAs is that they expend all their energy fighting what essentially amount to trolls, and meanwhile all the important issues go unaddressed. I'm fine with anti-feminism, but it is extremely limited in scope and usefulness--like I said, those who agree with it aren't going to learn anything new, and those who don't agree with it or don't understand it aren't going to learn anything at all. They'll just be pushed further away from it. Choosing to educate your audience…
/r/MensRights11/08/14 01:55 AM
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Wow--that's even less connected than saying being Muslim is "part and parcel" of being a terrorist.
/r/MensRights08/08/14 05:44 PM
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Lesson #1: kids are shit. Really--there will never be a worse group of people to deal with than kids. They're not old enough to understand manners, consequences of their actions, or the humility that comes through failure and self-reflection. Tell him that he has nothing to prove to children who don't know how to act like adults. Lesson #2: Don't become a bully to beat a bully. Tell your brother to narc on the bullies, run to the teachers, do whatever he has to do to be loudly and obviously not …
/r/MensRights08/08/14 05:40 PM
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I would say that objectification can't shame anybody who doesn't mind being objectified. Treating an NFL linebacker as a mass of muscle and bone whose sole reason for existing is smashing into other masses of muscle and bone is not objectification, because NFL linebackers are paid handsomely for their work. Treating a soldier like a mass of muscle and bone whose sole reason for existing is to make money for corporate war machines by invading foreign countries and getting shot IS objectification,…
/r/MensRights08/08/14 05:20 PM
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Polemical books usually just serve as choir-preaching exercises--those who agree with you will simply continue to agree, while those who disagree with you will have no reason to read for another 150 pages. If you're going to write a book, write one that says not one word against feminists. I know--MRM, anti-feminism, totally together, right? No. Finding ways to shift the discussion from "why are you so angry at group X?" to "why the hell hasn't this problem been solved yet?" are better uses for …
/r/MensRights08/08/14 05:12 PM
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If "looking bad" is the worst that you can offer, then all you desire is cosmetic appearance and approval from others. What does it matter if we "look bad" but have statistics, evidence, and the surety of logical and rational argument on our side? Or, to put it another way, have Andrea Dworkin and Valerie Solanas done much to destroy feminism's credibility in mainstream society yet?
/r/MensRights04/08/14 03:11 PM
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"I'm appalled that a subreddit for feminists exists! I mean, seriously--a group of people that believes that women should not be mistreated because of their gender? Sure, one ordinarily isn't "appalled" by something good, like a surprise birthday party, but it's just an emotional reaction. It's just how I feel... about feminism."
/r/MensRights04/08/14 03:01 PM
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"Hey--did you know? Eliot Rodger was medically insane. A real bad guy. But he was also A MAN! That makes him an MRA, right???" "MRA rhetoric is so violent! Hey--you remember how funny #killallmen was, right? Such a good-natured joke! Especially when SO MANY MEN and EVEN YOUNG BOYS are fighting and dying in wars right now!" "There are so many women in the MRM! But of course, they're just hangers-on to the roiling crowd of angry men. Angry, entitled, privileged men, who just want everything to be …
/r/MensRights04/08/14 02:57 PM
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For someone like the above poster, I'm not even mad. You want to say horrible shit like that on a public forum, you should be required to publicly stand by your statements. Twitter ain't PostSecret.
/r/MensRights04/08/14 02:42 PM
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If there are such things as degrees of murder, there should be degrees of rape.
/r/MensRights31/07/14 08:01 PM
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Pakistan. India. Niger. What do all of these places have in common? Non-white, non-western, underdeveloped, war-torn, post-imperial/post-colonial, suffering under repressive religious fundamentalism. Every. Single. One. And you find NONE of these similar markers of America, England, Canada, Australia, or countries in western Europe. Even an idiot could realize that life in western countries is radically different than life in war-torn Africa. But apparently feminists cannot. What does that make …
/r/MensRights30/07/14 08:04 PM
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If Harvard doesn't know how to use language of consent, then Harvard shouldn't be involved in policing language of consent. I wouldn't ask a random stranger with no knowledge of car care to fix my car, so why would I allow a university with no knowledge of clear language of consent to police language of consent?
/r/MensRights30/07/14 07:59 PM
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I don't know why you're being downvoted--this is just one of the many projections that feminists throw onto men through their "lenses" of "patriarchy" and "dominant gender" theory. When you actually look at what feminists are SAYING about men, as a gender, it looks patently sexist and disgusting. But because feminists mince words by throwing around pseudo-academic terms, they can have their cake and eat it too--spew the worst kind of verbal diarrhea about men and not be blamed for being monstrou…
/r/MensRights29/07/14 06:00 PM
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So the only part of higher education that has a reasonable expectation of giving degree holders competitive advantages in a competitive business environment needs to change because... it's competitive??? I guess it's not enough that feminist academics have hobbled higher education by de-emphasizing competitive skills-based learning in favor of fluff humanities majors and degree paths with admittedly no job market for graduates; now a feminist academic is claiming that we need to shoot business m…
/r/MensRights29/07/14 05:47 PM
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And in case you were wondering whether or not the author is aware of women's privilege to choose practically any outcome that involves themselves and their bodies (and even the potential lives of the fetuses inside those bodies), here is her statement of purpose on her new book "A Man's Right to Choose": The whole pro-choice argument is about giving women dominion over their own bodies. We find it empowering to make choices and assert our independence, but what we rarely recognize is the amount …
/r/MensRights24/07/14 07:45 PM
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Unexamined pseudo-Marxist kneejerking. She sees the fact that competition exists in the marketplace and assumes it A) must be evil and B) must be fought by going the compete opposite direction, i.e., forcing everybody to do things they don't want to or hobble their ambitions in ways that insult them for the greater good. The day feminists hitched their wagons to the Marxist train was the day they decided that oppression wasn't a bad thing, so long as everybody was equally oppressed. It also smac…
/r/MensRights24/07/14 07:38 PM
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This woman isn't brainwashed--she understands where feminism still has relevance as a social and political movement: the inequality women and girls face in developing countries. When women and girls have full and equal rights to their bodies, their reproductive faculties, their ability to earn a living, and to marry whomever they choose, then those feminists can claim victory. That's what feminism in the west has forgotten--YOU CAN BE VICTORIOUS. Feminists long ago won a complete and utter victo…
/r/MensRights24/07/14 06:38 PM
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I like how, mixed in with your anger and disappointment at seeing a troll post on here which tries to paint MRAs as rape-apologizing fucktards, you're also angry that it's such a poor example of a troll post. I don't want to put words in your mouth, but it fills my heart with joy to see somebody saying "if you're gonna troll, at least do it well." Congratulations... I think.
/r/MensRights23/07/14 04:30 PM
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Of all the rambling "arguments" that the feminist made on her placards, it should be noted that not a single one of them applies uniquely or even in a special way to women: Centuries of ongoing violence against women? What do you think happened during ALL THOSE WARS? TEA AND CRUMPETS? Who cares about all those other countries where women are raped and honor-killed and denied the right to vote or drive or wear nice clothing or not have their genitals cut on... wait--that totally sounds like a leg…
/r/MensRights23/07/14 04:23 PM
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The pervasiveness of patriarchy theory, for one. Yes, patriarchalism is a real political ideology, but so is Marxism; but nobody benefits from a Red Scare-like conspiracy theory that all men around the world are colluding to keep all women from positions of power in all walks of life regardless of men and women's actual lifestyles, culture, or current status. Feminists need to work for women's human rights in places where those rights are objectively being denied to women. Working for special pr…
/r/MensRights23/07/14 03:54 PM
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Nope--crony capitalism is an inevitable result of cronies. As in, people who have influence in government because they have bribed people. Sure, you can call it "campaign donations" all you want, but do you think that those campaign donors aren't collecting on those supposedly oh-so-charitable "donations"? Don't be naive. The only thing that can sustain a truly "free" market (by which I mean non-compulsory and fair, that is, "free" from predation by powerful conglomerates) is a strong state that…
/r/MensRights23/07/14 03:40 PM
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Not necessarily--equal application of the law eliminates the most egregious inequalities by forcing everyone to compete on relatively level playing fields. Equal access to legal representation (which, like universal health care, is something the US desperately needs) eliminates the rest by creating a disinterested legal framework that cannot be bought by the highest bidder to create unfavorable rulings. If we wouldn't be okay with paying a doctor less money to be a shittier doctor (or, conversel…
/r/MensRights23/07/14 03:27 PM
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Only if there is an unequal market, i.e., where the rich can influence policy to the detriment of their competitors. In a fair market where politicians can't be bought by massive multinational conglomerates (who by definition AREN'T citizens), capitalism has no more force than the information technology market today. Without capitalism, Apple and Microsoft would not be where they are, people would not have the ability to connect to the entire world through the internet in any similarly comprehen…
/r/MensRights22/07/14 04:42 PM
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I don't think statism is the problem, any more than some poorly-defined "corruption" is the problem. What is statism? Is it always bad? Is the "free market" different? But isn't the free market "fair"? Well, how can it be "fair" if strict laws against corruption aren't enforced? And isn't that enforcement done by the state? Our main problem is that men are assumed to have a superiority in culture that they do not, and women's actual superiority and solidarity is calculatingly de-emphasized to hi…
/r/MensRights22/07/14 03:35 PM
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Thanks, but I forgot a huge issue in here that affects young men and adult men alike--prison sentences. Today's prisons are a nightmare version of an animal pound where we put young impressionable dogs into pens with half a dozen vicious bloodthirsty dogs with the implicit expectation that the dogs being put in will be well-adjusted dogs by the time they get out. When those dogs who survive their stay are ruined in temperament and bite everything they come across, we send them back to the pound,…
/r/MensRights21/07/14 02:33 AM
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I'm sorry--you simply aren't aware of how bad the discussion on circumcision has gotten: http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/oct/11/ban-male-circumcision-antisemitic http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2013/01/anti-semitism-and-germanys-movement-against-circumcision/266794/ http://www.spectator.co.uk/features/9055801/the-first-cut/ http://www.jpost.com/Jewish-World/Jewish-News/Proposed-circumcision-ban-a-sign-of-anti-Semitism-327821 http://www.tabletmag.com/scroll/69224/when-anti…
/r/MensRights21/07/14 02:22 AM
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The answers range depending on the age of the male in question: Infants: circumcision. If it's not legal to do to girls, it shouldn't be legal to do to boys. But feminists and religious zealots are walking arm-in-arm to molest babies with scalpels and Gomco clamps. You know what the last group was called who considered Jewish religious practices barbaric? The Nazis. Therefore anybody who dares claim circumcision is barbaric is obviously an anti-Semite, of course. Young boys: sexualization. From …
/r/MensRights18/07/14 05:10 PM
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Feminism's goal isn't to remove the "other" feeling. It's goal is to make sure we each feel like an "other" and thus will treat each other better. Almost--feminism's goal is to make sure that everybody is Otherized, discourse is "balkanized," gender is "deconstructed," everything we do is "transectional," and any other buzzword people can come up with to justify why their argument isn't a bullshit generalization. So long as there are enough labels to helpfully move the goalposts of rational disc…
/r/MensRights17/07/14 07:34 PM
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Ron Paul was a pipe dream masking an even bigger pipe dream. Forget going back to the gold standard, can you imagine the pushback from the military industrial complex if a Ron-Paul-style downsizing of the military was enacted? Two words--military coup. Even Obama, ever the friend of Wall Street, has been mercilessly dogged by the cronies of big business in the Republican party and stabbed in the back by cronies in his own ranks... and Obama's Wall Street's biggest fanboy. Meanwhile, there is lit…
/r/MensRights16/07/14 06:28 PM
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I love that rhetorical slip--"feminist ally", from "feminist proper" in the halcyon days when it was believed feminism was supposedly inclusive. How does one become an "ally" of a movement? By not being a part of that movement, but simply in slavish agreement with the movement and hopping along after it like a lost puppy dog. There's a reason why the term "ally" has become popular in feminist circles--they appropriated it from the LGBT movement where actual non-LGBT people were actual allies, wh…
/r/MensRights16/07/14 06:21 PM
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Though generally I would lol as well, take a look at how well anti-choice and anti-birth-control issues have played with polls and voter blocs; unlike the rampant abuses of Wall Street and the absolute refusal to budge on Obamacare, conservatives are in every state losing the battle to have nationalized free female birth control mandated by the government. A few companies like Hobby Lobby are trying to mount a defense against the expenditure, but they are outliers and are seriously disrupting th…
/r/MensRights16/07/14 06:15 PM
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Depending on the state, the statute of limitations may not have run out on the crime: https://www.rainn.org/pdf-files-and-other-documents/Public-Policy/Legal-resources/2012/Statute%20of%20Limitations%20Summary.pdf States can bring felony charges against defendants independently of the plaintiff. Thus, a false accusation of a felony that the state then spends time investigating is itself a criminal act.
/r/MensRights16/07/14 06:08 PM
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Yeah--it'll be traumatic to stand up and accuse the person who tried to kill you in a murder trial, but nobody would advocate not accusing your attempted murderer of attempted murder. It increasingly seems like feminists really don't want rapes to be tried by law courts.
/r/MensRights14/07/14 08:17 PM
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Excellent--more falsely accused individuals should sue their accusers. Criminal behavior is criminal behavior, regardless of whether the criminal is a man or a woman. Falsely accusing someone of committing a crime (for WHATEVER reason) is a criminal act, and criminals should be punished to the fullest extent of the law. To believe otherwise is to excuse criminal behavior.
/r/MensRights14/07/14 08:08 PM
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I was a complete supporter of feminism, until feminism stopped supporting me. Feminist friends I had started mocking me, telling me to "check my privilege," and blaming anything and everything in society on people with the same gender as me (yes--that's sexism; not "historical advantage" or "patriarchal legacy," but blaming anyone for the problems of present-day society based on their gender is sexism). I didn't leave the feminist movement--I was pushed out. The only differences I see between fe…
/r/MensRights11/07/14 04:30 PM
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No offense taken--this is the internet after all, where thick skin is a prerequisite for not getting Twitter PTSD. :) The reason why I initially sought to complicate the hypothetical is actually that hypothesis that the offense felt by the NY man and the Tokyo man would be the same. It's kind of hard for us to imagine it, but most Asian countries have far more "racist" beliefs than the west, even though they maintain diplomatic relations with each other. At least here in the west, we white folks…
/r/MensRights10/07/14 06:34 PM
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You haven't wasted my time--if you refuse to learn from others, you've wasted YOUR OWN time. I haven't wasted my time at all--I've used your bad example to work through the logistics of my own reasoning, something I've not had occasion to do before. Thus, prior to your hypothetical, my ideas were unformed and possibly erroneous; but now, I understand my own position better by comparing it to the question you asked me. For instance, I now know that answering "is situation A more immoral than situ…
/r/MensRights09/07/14 07:54 PM
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Edit: wow you guys really hate these people. It's not hatred, it's frustration with the fact that the group who acts like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iARHCxAMAO0 (here is the horrible evil talk they were protesting, by the way:) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6w1S8yrFz4 ...gets literally millions of taxpayer dollars each year, spends billions of lobbying dollars each year, and influences literally the highest levels of government to agree with and promote in policy and in practice ev…
/r/MensRights08/07/14 05:36 PM
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If it shouldn't be done to girls, it shouldn't be done to boys. Paper done.
/r/MensRights08/07/14 05:08 PM
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Really--you're a "law guy" and you think my breaking down of your problematic hypothetical situation to find a deeper and more useful orientation is "obtuse"? Have you even taken your LSAT yet?
/r/MensRights08/07/14 05:04 PM
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Before I answer, I'm going to assume for your benefit rather than mine that in each cafe, you're speaking the native language. I could be a dick and say that nobody understands you because you're speaking English in Tokyo and Tokyo residents pride themselves on not being Americanized and English-heavy like Kyoto. Nobody would understand the anti-Asian racial slur in English if nobody bothered to speak English on a regular basis. But this also leads to a secondary problem that I have to make assu…
/r/MensRights07/07/14 03:16 PM
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If that's the level of response you can muster to someone with even just a cursory background in gender theory, you should be singing the praises of the idiots sending death threats to MRA conference locations. You simply don't want my level of crazy turning every single post you read into a nightmare machine of walls of text that you need a master's degree to sift through.
/r/MensRights07/07/14 02:52 PM
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Oh, bullshit. And yet by the end of your post, you will ultimately agree with me. First. That quote? Not actually Gandhi. Close enough--as a comment responding to you already said: http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/2011/0603/Political-misquotes-The-10-most-famous-things-never-actually-said/First-they-ignore-you.-Then-they-laugh-at-you.-Then-they-attack-you.-Then-you-win.-Mohandas-Gandhi I'm sure that many now-famous quotes are not their actual versions, or that time has eroded the meaning of…
/r/MensRights06/07/14 04:47 PM
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In reality, power is irrelevant to the immorality of prejudice. I disagree--the average neo-Nazi skinhead is an asshole, to be sure, but give that neo-Nazi skinhead a bullhorn of governmental authority, and then he's a threat. You can have all the bad ideas you like and never be a threat to anybody, simply because you don't actually have the ability to follow through on those bad ideas. But radical feminists literally have a billion-dollar lobbying industry which has every incentive to follow th…
/r/MensRights06/07/14 04:22 PM
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Indeed--the Greek comedy "Lysistrata" has a whole scene devoted to old men making fun of old women for shaving their pubes in order to look young and attractive again. Anybody who thinks we started the fashion of shaving only in the past 100 years is following that same flawed model of feminist thinking that thinks we are somehow living in a patriarchal doomsday world that has only been getting worse.
/r/MensRights05/07/14 03:58 PM
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"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win." Mahatma Gandhi The MRM should be thankful that we are receiving such violent, vitriolic, baseless attacks. It just goes to show you how desperately unequal the situation is that we have to be demonized so viciously by "the opposition." We should be dancing in the streets every time we are called hatemongers, sexists, charlatans, thugs, neckbearded man-children, etc. And you know why? Because it shows we are the b…
/r/MensRights05/07/14 03:47 PM
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Apparently we're doing just enough to make you and other concern trolls like you scared/angry/upset, so that's a start. If all we were doing was apologizing for our gender, we wouldn't be a movement for change. We'd be a movement for feminism.
/r/MensRights05/07/14 03:33 PM
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http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=concern+troll You had nothing constructive to say, just digs at the inability of "us" to change "our" message (I'm putting those in quote marks to highlight the fallaciousness of you lumping all MRAs into one group to more easily mock) to fit everybody else's oversensitive sensibilities in contrivance to the facts. I wouldn't bat an eye if you wanted to actually put more pro-male, or heck--even pro-feminist articles on here with an MRA twist; that w…
/r/MensRights05/07/14 03:30 PM
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What is the old adage that oppression is "prejudice plus power"? http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Prejudice_plus_power The differentiation between #notallmen and Eliot Rodger vs. NAFALT and radical feminism is that radical feminism is a powerful force in feminism as a whole. Eliot Rodger wasn't even an MRA--but radical feminists are taught in Feminist classes!
/r/MensRights04/07/14 05:12 PM
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I think MRAs understand feminists just fine. Most of us WERE feminists before masculinity became feminism's favorite whipping boy.
/r/MensRights04/07/14 05:06 PM
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I would disagree--"pussy points" are just code for behavioral conditioning that we all engage in as social beings. Feminists have arbitrarily defined "niceness" as altruism, thus negating any potential niceness as somehow being "self-serving," even though we are all somewhat self-serving even in our nicest moments. Why do we volunteer? To feel better about ourselves, and feel like we are giving back some of our sizeable bounty. Why do we help others with their groceries, or open doors for others…
/r/MensRights04/07/14 05:02 PM
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Don't forget, those studies apply both to MGM and FGM--any time you cut away the amount of mucosal tissue, you reduce the possibility of infection. Of course, nobody would ever consider FGM a logical step in STI prevention--we actually CARE about the integrity of girls' genitals.
/r/MensRights04/07/14 04:56 PM
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I understand not feeding the trolls, but do MRAs not have the right to complain when they are treated unfairly? Look at this recent article's blatant shunning and shaming tactics concerning CAFE and its "supposed ties" to the MRM: http://dailyxtra.com/toronto/news/men%E2%80%99s-rights-group-cafe-slips-worldpride-parade What's so wrong about supporting men's rights? NOTHING--but that's not what feminists want you to believe. So either we complain, complain, complain--and provide a counter-argumen…
/r/MensRights04/07/14 04:50 PM
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How about instead of telling her off for not agreeing with you you try and explain why her views are wrong. I doubt she agrees with everything but you aren't going to convince her or anyone else who sees it by having a go at her. contradicts: I'm going to ignore your rant because its all ridiculous conjecture If you in fact had bothered with my "rant" you would have realized I've said nothing about the person in question, nor did I "have a go at her"--I was talking about the overarching issues f…
/r/MensRights04/07/14 04:36 PM

Male comic writer writes an adult having drunken sex with an adult who wears skimpy clothing? RAPE!!! FIRE HIM!!! Eve Ensler writes a monologue about a 13 year old girl being plied with alcohol by an adult woman before being molested in what the girl herself calls "a good rape"? NATIONAL ACCLAIM! ARTISTIC MERIT!! INTERNATIONAL 'V' DAY CELEBRATION!!! Yeah--men totally face no discrimination in the west based on their gender today. None. Whatsoever. #YesAllSnowflakes
/r/MensRights03/07/14 07:54 PM
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That's part of the problem--the sensationalization of "rape culture" gets funding dollars; but as we all know from the Red Cross debacle during Hurricane Katrina, a funding blitz rarely actually makes it into the hands of those actually working to solve the problem. It's the same thing with breast cancer marketing; it's marketing, not charity, and the vast majority of extra funds a company makes for having "pink ribbon" this and "breasts are the best!" that, never actually makes it to any organi…
/r/MensRights03/07/14 07:40 PM
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Paradoxically, female MRAs are exempt from social opprobrium for being anti-feminist. That's their privilege--the right to say "no." Isn't it a weird world when men as a gender are literally not allowed to refuse to believe a dogmatic position without losing any sense of credibility or social capital? How truly "patriarchal" we are. /s
/r/MensRights03/07/14 07:35 PM
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The girl was sympathetic to men's rights That's not being questioned--what's being questioned is the motivation behind said "sympathy". You can have sympathy for homeless people on the street, yet still believe they just need to pull themselves up by their own bootstraps because life doesn't give handouts. Here's her example: I have a younger brother I love very much, and the extent to which stereotypically "macho" culture has pressured him into disregarding his feelings has saddled him with som…
/r/MensRights03/07/14 07:32 PM
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I will say though that reliable forms of hormonal birth control are notoriously expensive. We can talk about how cheap condoms are 'til we're blue in the face, but if men had to get insurance approval for RISUG and their employers wouldn't cover it, we'd be right there in the fight just like feminists are right now. Human rights are human rights; and the right to comprehensive medical care should be one of them--birth control included. At least, that's my opinion.
/r/MensRights02/07/14 04:22 PM
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The only reason why more MRAs don't self-identify as anti-feminists is, in the words of Karen Straughan at the recent international men's issues conference, simply because they are afraid of the social destruction that can be wrought by women's disapproval. If that doesn't tell you what the power relationships between the genders in the western world really are like, I don't know what will.
/r/MensRights02/07/14 04:19 PM
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You do realize the MRM needs support to get anthing done right? So we should love our abusers, those who publicly and legislatively marginalize us, trivialize and cannibalize our concerns, and deny us agency to act as human rights advocates in our own rights by shaming us as misogynist serial killers and proponents of rape? If that's "support," I hate to imagine what your definition of "rejection" is.
/r/MensRights02/07/14 04:15 PM
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Part of what is happening in our discussions about rape culture is that we are losing what the definition of RAPE actually is; is one "raped" when one gets fondled? NO. Is one "raped" when one has inappropriate catcalls directed at him or her? NO. Is one "raped" when one is forced into sexual acts non-consensually? YES. So whether or not this needs to be rebranded "sexual assault culture" or "sexual impropriety culture" is really at issue; because the longer that RAPE is lumped in with grabbing …
/r/MensRights02/07/14 04:10 PM
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Good point--we are willing to cry "sexism!" at the drop of a hat simply because there aren't enough women in a particular movie, and when they are there, they are love interests. Meanwhile, the comedification of the Wilhelm Scream and the overwhelming emphasis on male actors as cannon fodder to be easily, graphically, and thoughtlessly killed on screen, with jubilant emphasis on the blood/guts/gore involved, passes unnoticed. Or even worse, is considered male "privilege"--the privilege to have y…
/r/MensRights02/07/14 04:02 PM
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Wow--that second point has a lot of relevance for today's discussion about equality; it's as if being a part of any 'minority" (even though women, simply by virtue of biology, are technically a majority) automatically qualifies one for extra legitimacy on discussions of equality. Like bitterman was saying up above, appeals to race and gender are fallacious when applied to anyone else BUT white men; but when the targeted group is both white and male, that somehow validates or legitimizes what is …
/r/MensRights02/07/14 03:05 AM
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Just look at what the "Ban Bossy" campaign did with just a few youtube videos and some celebrities. That's not even a real campaign like those spearheaded by N.O.W. or any one of dozens of national or international women's issues groups across the world. That's just feminism playing on feminist hype and love for Beyoncé.
/r/MensRights02/07/14 02:55 AM
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So nobody controls government, which is your reason to excuse women from responsibility for the outcome of their vote, until we do have control over government, which is why I should be thankful for them. I don't even understand this statement due to the bad grammar expressed in it. But I can respond to at least certain parts of it: So nobody controls government Define "control"--because representation is not "control," any more than paying for a product means you "control" the company that make…
/r/MensRights30/06/14 07:50 PM
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Except that I've read the studies which you've obviously missed. Growth of government can be traced to women's suffrage not only in the USA but also in other countries. Correlation doesn't imply causation here--you're trying to say that redistributive actions by the government have caused our current crisis (which is wrong--cronyism has caused our current crisis) by blaming women's choices in a system they neither control nor have responsibility over. Just the same as there isn't an actual Patri…
/r/MensRights28/06/14 11:36 PM
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Even a broken clock is right twice a day--Jessica Valenti included.
/r/MensRights26/06/14 03:35 PM
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It's the feminist version of slut-shaming, which some here call "creep-shaming" but is actually part of the larger umbrella term of beauty-shaming. It's when you take beauty or fashion standards and then judge people on their worth and value to society by those stupid standards. It isn't any different than when anti-feminists used to rail in the 1990s about "shaved head lesbian jackboot biker feminazis" to paint all feminists with the same disparaging brush. Only it's women doing it to men, so i…
/r/MensRights26/06/14 03:28 PM
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This: A government that was 2-3% of GDP, controlled by those who payed the taxes to fund it. contradicts this: So post hoc ergo proctor hoc? Not to mention we had an ever expanding government, because those with control of government were those who weren't funding it. So which is it? Because either government from the late 1940s-1970s was either funded by taxpayers or it wasn't. Because that answer will change this: And women's suffrage consistently gives more and more power to government. Becau…
/r/MensRights26/06/14 03:13 PM
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There is no rule that says all the sexism disappears or people cannot dissect the sexism in the show because you can find more if it in the show. Strangely enough, you're wrong about that--feminist discourse essentializes patriarchy theory, such that wherever it is found it invariably takes precedence in ANY discussion. Look at the article--a wide variety of gender models and persuasions in the characters, but all the author can focus on is the nascent patriarchal overtones that almost seem to "…
/r/MensRights26/06/14 03:02 PM
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The reason why universal suffrage is necessary is because you can't control how stupid people vote, but stupid people CAN control what YOU have to do if you can't vote to get rid of them. What did we in the US have before universal suffrage? Corporate crony interests in the form of trusts and Tammany-hall style oligarchies. What have we had in the years since the Supreme Court mandated money as speech in politics? Corporate cronyism once again. What did we have in the intervening years betweeen …
/r/MensRights25/06/14 03:42 PM
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If seeing a few trolls trolling can make you abandon an international movement for equal human rights, then you need to reset your grievance alarm. It's broken.
/r/MensRights25/06/14 03:26 PM
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Read the feminist talking about cooking being depicted as womans work. That's not sexism, any more than the stereotypical gender roles for men on the show are "sexism." It just so happens that people in real life have a variety of ideas about gender roles that may or may not be sexist in your estimation, but in a realistic drama it would be stupid not to show the same variation as real life. Look at Lange's discussion of the male character Gus--she calls him various "sexist" epithets like "sad s…
/r/MensRights25/06/14 03:24 PM
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I would say that it depends on the person--some people really need medical leave for their periods, others just need Midol or ibuprofen. For those for whom periods kick their asses, they should expect to either take time off work (probably unpaid) or take flextime and probably be less likely to be promoted because they are not as productive as their 100%-performing fellow employees. Having been on several performance review committees, there are literally an infinite number of reasons people tak…
/r/MensRights13/06/14 05:14 PM
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Because "we can take it." That's the societal perception anyway. If you want to understand how men are so vilified in today's culture, ask yourself whether feminists would even be able to survive the PTSD of such a concentrated hatefest of millions of MRAs and MRA-friendly national news organizations all promoting the same lies and bullshit. Heck--two killings this week by teenage girls due to Slenderman--is that toxic femininity at work? That's what we have to deal with in the media right now.
/r/MensRights11/06/14 03:09 PM
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Government, in this sense, is just the middleman; it's neither good nor bad. If the government advocates for the people, then of course it will bust up trusts and monopolies; however, as you can see from the Net Neutrality debacle going on right now, if the government officials involved are lobbyists for the companies they are supposedly regulating, then you get "internet fast lanes" for rich companies and nobody else. Government is not the problem--who government represents is the problem.
/r/MensRights10/06/14 08:47 PM
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If you just do to them what I'm doing to you, you'll win. Misrepresent my interlocutors and produce fallacious arguments with little regard for facts and reason? Why would I want to "win" that way? I don't care if I "win"--I care about the truth. Allowing a lie to stand unchallenged is wrong. My point is that you can accomplish what you want by different means and it's much more effective. Keep your eye on the prize. What you call "effective" I call "good men doing nothing." Look up the full quo…
/r/MensRights06/06/14 09:52 PM
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The reason why you're being called a "concern troll" is well-represented here, because you're operating at two removes from rational thinking in the comment I'm responding to: 1) You're pandering to the worst of the mainstream media ("the uninitiated", for instance) by saying we should take their sentiments into account, and 2) You are thinking emotionally, not rationally. That's why you don't understand that the MRM is more than just Paul Elam. Your statement "we should make it more known that …
/r/MensRights05/06/14 03:23 PM
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Um--not to "discredit" you, but I wasn't accusing you of anything. Go look up above there--you have a "context" button in your inbox like everybody else. Where, OH WHERE, did I say "Frank_N_Berry says X, so he's obviously a nutter"? In fact, for you to SMEAR my response (which was brusque and filled with colorful language, I'll admit, but hardly "angry") as being something it is not IS in fact trying to put me on the defensive. And look--here I am on the defensive, just where you wanted me! Go y…
/r/MensRights05/06/14 03:03 PM
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but why can't they extend the same courtesy? Courtesy is unknown in the land of the internet troll.
/r/MensRights04/06/14 05:40 PM
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Right now, talk is all we CAN do, and all we SHOULD do. Send e-mails to article writers with links to the SPLC's own disavowal of its position and ask why the authors are spreading old debunked news. Point them here, or to AVfM, and tell them to decide for themselves and not to just print hype. Contact Cracked (though they're pretty far gone) and ask to put out an article giving a contrary opinion. They have forums for ideas, and if people start posting on there with interesting and useful ideas…
/r/MensRights04/06/14 05:26 PM
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McDonald's You mean that multibillion-dollar industry built on the backs of poor workers with no rights to band together in unions or demand fair wages? I'm sure they quake in their boots at the thought of a little bad press. /s By responding to it we are: 1. Put on the defensive; and 2. Legitimizing and propagating their claim Horseshit--if somebody in a position of relative authority (like the SPLC) says something bad about you, and you "do not dignify" the rumor with comment, the rumor stands…
/r/MensRights04/06/14 05:21 PM
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If you were doing it to her, it would be criminal partner abuse. Leave her. Wouldn't you want a woman to dump her fiancé then and there if he was hitting her every time she says something that upsets him? Dump her ass NOW.
/r/MensRights03/06/14 04:36 PM

That's all well in theory, but a lie retold often enough becomes the truth, and right now idiots without knowledge or understanding are the only ones speaking. Sure, we can show how awesome we are until we are blue in the face, but if the main charge of /redpill association goes unchallenged, then it will remain. Just look at the charge that the MRM is a "hate group" proposed by the SPLC; we took the idiocy in stride and waited for it to go away and it NEVER DID, even though the SPLC itself back…
/r/MensRights03/06/14 04:26 PM
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Most MRAs I've listened to in this sub were feminists years ago and would probably still be feminists if professional victimologists didn't jump on every chance to show how horribly "men" oppress "women." Sure, they don't say "ALL men," but the implication is obvious, the presumed guilt, the shaming of people just for being a biological sex. It's stupid and divisive and not at all the way people should react to violence and bigotry and hatred. Rationality and equality = MRA, at least these days.…
/r/MensRights30/05/14 03:47 PM
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Loneliness Male group activities--I'm a member of several gaming groups and I could not imagine my mental state without hanging out with my male friends on a regular basis. Gaming used to be an in-the-closet shamed activity, but it is becoming more accepted in the mainstream as an alternative to "poker nights" or drunken "guys' night out" that perpetuate more negative stereotypes or attract certain types of guys who are more invested in perpetuated negative stereotypes about guys (heavy drinking…
/r/MensRights29/05/14 06:05 PM
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You're concerned? I'm concerned that I'll be labeled a fucking terrorist because some crazy person shot a bunch of people and then committed suicide, and somehow I'm to blame. The opposition isn't trying to drown us out--they're trying to turn us into wanted criminals just because we share the same biological sex as a crazy murderer. I'm fucking terrified.
/r/MensRights28/05/14 09:31 PM
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From a strictly intellectual perspective, I think that feminism and the MR"ism" are one and the same thing. In terms of social movements, they certainly seem to be at odds. I would call it the MRM, the Men's Rights Movement, which is a coinage in the same vein as the old Women's Rights Movement of the late 50's and early 60's when sexist business practices and legal statutes DID discriminate against women unfairly and brave equality-minded women struck out against that ideology of women's inferi…
/r/MensRights27/05/14 02:05 PM
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When people say its just normal and common sense for women to wear x clothes Bullshit--have you never heard of Slutwalks, the international protest movement which says exactly the opposite? Slutwalkers like to pretend that they're new to the scene, but Madonna was doing and saying the same things in the 1980s. Back up your hearsay with evidence or it's bullshit. and always be watching their drinks etc because of rapists. I love the random "et cetera" thrown in when people can't be bothered to ac…
/r/MensRights27/05/14 01:53 PM
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You're half-right, and that's the problem. Feminists have used gender theory in the past, and you are right that MRAs often invoke discussions of gender theory including social constructions of gender (Judith Butler), psychological underpinnings of gender in sexuality (Michel Foucault), and even elements of woundedness and trauma (Judith Butler again, as well as some more recent critics). The problem with feminism is that it has become like "Atheism+", the supposed atheist compatriot to feminism…
/r/MensRights26/05/14 07:55 PM

I'm sorry--who has hostility towards whom in the above posts? No, seriously--I want to know who you think is firing all the shots towards whom. Because all I see are misattributions, misrepresentations, and outright lies about the MRM from feminists. I don't see MRAs LYING about what feminists say--they have quotes of what feminists say, quotes about their bullshit and their anti-male attitudes and their overt goal to reduce women's culpability and agency in the developed world. Feminism is an e…
/r/MensRights25/05/14 09:27 PM
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This is yet another example of the PUA community (and especially bad behaviors in particularly bad parts of the PUA community) being linked with the MRM as a whole. Even though most MRAs have distanced themselves with the misogyny and the gender warfare of /redpill and other PUA communities, should we put out some sort of notice in a sticky or on the sidebar that violence and hatred against ANYONE will not be tolerated in the MRM? It seems like such an easy way for feminists and other ideologica…
/r/MensRights24/05/14 04:23 PM
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Asking mra's to make legitimate counter arguments is legitimate. One cannot make a "legitimate" counter-argument to an illegitimate argument. You have not made any legitimate criticism of MRAs' understanding of rape culture (just an imbecilic straw-man pantomime in your post above); you have simply accepted as "legitimate" an illegitimate feminist position (that rape "culture" even exists). You're the feminist version of a theist--you've already proven you aren't interested in logical argument a…
/r/MensRights24/05/14 04:12 PM
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Once again, you are giving legitimacy where there is none and ignoring legitimacy where it factually exists; even RAINN, the Rape, Abuse, and Incest National Network, has proclaimed that "rape culture" is not a valid concept when discussing rape in the western world: http://time.com/30545/its-time-to-end-rape-culture-hysteria/ In the last few years, there has been an unfortunate trend towards blaming “rape culture” for the extensive problem of sexual violence on campus. While it is helpful to po…
/r/MensRights23/05/14 04:41 PM
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Whether we have female or male-dominated education doesn't matter--what matters is the structure. A female-dominated apprenticeship/entrepreneurship structure would be no different than a male-dominated apprenticeship/entrepreneurship structure. The fact that education is now built on the factory-drone model is the problem, and also the idea that one needs 20+ years of education in order to be a successful drone. The vast majority of people getting degrees now are not using the skills they have …
/r/MensRights21/05/14 07:12 PM
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Not only do men have fewer educational opportunities than women, but men and boys are receiving lower grades and lower performance reviews than girls at ALL levels of education, something that literally cannot be caused by anything other than institutional bias. If we agree that all things being equal, men and women are more alike than they are different, then why the big disparity in education? Obviously, "equal opportunity" is the fundamental problem. Education is designed for passive, convers…
/r/MensRights21/05/14 02:37 AM
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I would say that the shoe is actually on the other foot--victims are supposed to be shielded from scrutiny so that they DON'T feel like they have to "come forward" and be judged simply because they are the victim of a crime. I have no problem with rape shield laws--I in fact think they should be extended to all parties of the alleged crime until conviction. While it is important to have the ability "to meet your accuser in public court," the court of public opinion is MUCH larger than it used to…
/r/MensRights21/05/14 02:21 AM
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Now, that's not even trying. ;)
/r/MensRights21/05/14 02:10 AM
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Thank you--I had a feeling it was super-trolling, but I was bored and decided to ride the bullying out. It got super-silly at one point, but I found the conversation overall at least useful for consolidating my ideas. I find that I often don't even really know what I think until someone else tries to make fun of my ideas; sort of like a crucible, it burns away the problems in my argument to think about how my ideas can be misinterpreted, and it makes me think more clearly about what I really und…
/r/MensRights19/05/14 07:25 PM
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You are merely attempting to cloak your opinions in what you call logic and reason to give them credibility. You are a fool. "Oh no, no--all those points there where I insulted you and made fun of your penis size and said that you need to be raped a few times because you're too stupid to understand what rape is? No, that was sarcasm--what I really meant was that you're crazy and unhinged and absolutely nobody could ever believe what you believe because only crazy and unhinged people would agree …
/r/MensRights18/05/14 07:54 PM
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I'M being distasteful? You're demanding that I admit VERY personal details about my life to a random person on the internet. You might as well threaten to doxx me--that's the level of privacy invasion you're "asking" for. In other words, stay the fuck out of my personal life. And if you can't help yourself, do the right thing and don't say anything at all, like your parents should have taught you.
/r/MensRights18/05/14 07:36 PM
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Understandable--and I don't think it's right to expect a hard-hitting argument in favor of women's agency in bad behavior from a random commenter on the internet. I just saw a moment of that same linguistic evasion that more famous commenters engage in and thought I'd point out that it extends all over the place in our regular daily speech.
/r/MensRights18/05/14 07:34 PM
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If you had made any critical arguments I would have responded to them. You called me a turd, you said that men who believe they have been raped by women are mentally malfunctioning, and you have suggested I need to be raped into your way of thinking. That's not criticism, and you're not arguing rationally. If I had said to you ANY of the things you have said to me, then you might have a legitimate grievance. If I had called you an idiot, said you need to be raped, and that you're too stupid to u…
/r/MensRights18/05/14 07:31 PM
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Ooh--what are you going do to if I refuse? Rape me? Still doesn't provide a rational response to the topic at hand. So go ahead--continue demanding that I answer you on an incredibly personal subject that has no place whatsoever being talked about in public to strangers. Throw your weight around--insult me even. That will totally prove your point that... well, whatever in the hell your point is supposed to be.
/r/MensRights18/05/14 07:07 PM
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Projection, projection, projection. What was that? A response akin to "Revenge of the Nerds?" You undermine your credibility in alleging that I do not respond substantively to you. In fact, I do. See above, re: Mean0dean0, you are a turd. Here's another gem of projection: Everyone here knows that you are an asshole. See above, re: You guys have some serious mental malfunctions. and Now, many of the dickless wonders here may prescribe to this nonsense. So be it. Good thing you insulted everybody …
/r/MensRights18/05/14 07:00 PM
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Are you offering? Or threatening? Because in neither case is any sort of reply to this question relevant. That'd be like saying that people can't talk about the dangers of smoking unless they themselves had lung cancer from smoking. In no way does anything I do personally (or anything done to me) change the arguments I'm making. If you've got problems with my arguments, talk about my arguments.
/r/MensRights18/05/14 06:40 PM
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Excellent! Another winner for Hercules598--100% personal attacks, absolutely nothing resembling a response to anything I've said. I guess in the absence of anything like a rational reply, you've got nothing else left besides personal attacks. Let me repost that entire comment in case you decide to delete it later, as well: You are a one-note looney tune, dude. Seriously, you are unhinged. Listen to yourself. You are an absolutist; nothing you say can be challenged in your mind. You have "enemies…
/r/MensRights18/05/14 06:31 PM
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Reposting your entire comment, in case you delete it, Hercules598. Here it is, folks--the sexual objectification of men! Do men have the right NOT to want pussy 24/7? To not want to fuck any pussy they see? To believe they have been raped? Nope: Mean0dean0, you are a turd. Nobody of any real significance or intelligence accepts the proposition that men can be raped outside of a prison or a pirate ship. The overwhelming majority of men do not even buy into this bullshit (nor do they want to). I m…
/r/MensRights18/05/14 06:19 PM
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While this comment is certainly necessary, I don't think the major emphasis on domestic violence should be about men feeling "vulnerable" enough to speak out, or men being "victims" of violence. What should be at the forefront of both genders in the discussion of DV is perpetration, not victimization; we should be focusing NOT on what Jay-Z did or didn't do to deserve being beaten up by Solange; we should be focusing on why Solange felt that the best way of getting across her obvious emotional o…
/r/MensRights18/05/14 06:09 PM
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I'm sorry--I was under the impression that there was an international campaign claiming that regular individuals can stop rape by restraining their fellows: http://www.mencanstoprape.org/ Is it too much for the author of the article, as well as the book The End of Men, to acknowledge that if men are roughly equal victims of rape, and at least half of those rapes are committed by women, that maybe women need to examine THEIR behavior as well? If she had done it your way, it would have been chalke…
/r/MensRights18/05/14 04:56 PM
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Just know that if you choose to speak out against the massive anti-male bias of rad-fems at many western universities, you will lose any and all "feminist privilege" that you thought you had: http://www.avoiceformalestudents.com/extremists-disrupt-dr-janice-fiamengos-lecture-at-university-of-ottawa-video/ I should say that this isn't even limited to talking about men's rights, but ANYTHING that doesn't toe the line of the extremist rad-fem ideology, even anarchist meetings: http://www.youtube.co…
/r/MensRights18/05/14 04:29 PM
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MOST of it was well-written, but notice the completely passive description of the rape and sexual assault statistics and the lack of implication presented--at no point does she say that we need to have a conversation about female rapists. She says that men ARE raped, that men ARE made to penetrate, that men ARE victimized... but by whom??? That extra step just doesn't seem to come to her, as she says that men are now feeling "vulnerable" enough to admit THEIR victimization. But are women now INV…
/r/MensRights18/05/14 04:16 PM
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I've heard British youtubers pronounce the ante-penultimate syllable and swallow the penultimate vowel, saying "MISandry," while Americans are more liable to play up the strong nasal A with "misANdry." I'm not saying it's official King's English because I have no idea, but British English doesn't have as much of an obsession with the strong nasal A.
/r/MensRights14/05/14 10:25 PM
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... in other words, they deserved it? She is 22 and I am baffled at how extremely entitled and ignorant her opinions are. Should I really try to change her or just break this relationship. Everybody's opinions are entitled and arrogant at 22. Don't try to change her, but you can educate her in empathy, or at least tell her that she needs to educate herself in empathy because you're not seeing it from her and that's a worrying sign in a long-term partner. If she still refuses to even attempt to e…
/r/MensRights14/05/14 10:15 PM
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You're making the same exact mistake the comic is making fun of. You're assuming to care about female issues means you exclusively care about female issues. You're assuming to care about male issues means you're against all other issues. With all due respect, that's not a mistake--if I were to say that I believe in equality, but call myself a masculinist, support a billion dollar lobbying, academic, and social services industry that champions issues that affect men almost exclusively, and then d…
/r/MensRights14/05/14 07:57 PM
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Again, if you stick to buzzwords, you're only going to get pushback with other buzzwords. You need to get down to brass tacks and ask what exactly constitutes a patriarchy, what DOESN'T constitute a patriarchy, and ask where that patriarchy exists in the west. If it only exists in Cosmopolitan magazine, then fine--Cosmo is patriarchal. But Cosmo is not the federal government, and any definition of "systemic patriarchy" that only includes Cosmo is... well, a bad definition. Boom--lawyered. I view…
/r/MensRights13/05/14 04:22 PM
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I doubt it--speaking doublespeak to doublespeakers doesn't create original speech, it just confuses the terms even more and leads to LESS understanding, not more. Rather than fighting fire with fire, we should be fighting it with water--every time a feminist says that "systemic patriarchy" exists in the west, ask which laws they mean, and why we have whole lobbying groups and national coalitions for women's issues. "Obviously, a systemic patriarchy would not promote systems that advocate for wom…
/r/MensRights13/05/14 03:55 PM
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That's like saying that if racism existed in America, we'd still have slavery. First off, racism still exists in America, and we also still have slavery. Granted, today's slaves are prison laborers (who are conveniently not covered by the Thirteenth Amendment's abolition of slavery), and they make up the most profitable corner of the defense industry's market for cheap goods through no-bid contracts by the military-industrial-congressional-complex that owns our country and milks us for trillions…
/r/MensRights12/05/14 09:02 PM
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Patriarchy "theory" would say no--but then, like the definition of "feminism," patriarchy "theory" means different things depending on who you ask, what book you read, and what class you take. Is that scientific? Of course not. Are there scientific ways to understand patriarchies? Of course there are. But if feminists actually looked at sociological and anthropological data, as well as political systems across the globe, they would see the very obvious lack of a system which provides one (ideal)…
/r/MensRights12/05/14 08:44 PM
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I don't think there's any need to pander to feminists, even in jest. Notice how the "systemic Patriarchy" was slipped in there? Yeah--there's no such thing in the western world. If there was, not only would this comic not need to exist, but feminist institutions at every single higher education institution in the western world wouldn't need to exist, and women would have to simply shut up, woman up, and take the lot they get in life, like women in actual patriarchies like Yemen or Saudi Arabia. …
/r/MensRights10/05/14 09:07 PM
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Not going to upvote, but not going to downvote either. I don't see the need to pigeonhole "men" into any categories, but if that's your bag, go for it. Just so long as you treat both men and women equally and not as stupid stereotypes.
/r/MensRights10/05/14 08:56 PM
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If the person is primarily hijacking a thread for personal agendas and not really understanding what the thread is about, and making arguments that miss the point, they are't really contributing to the thread. Good thing the above commenter you were needlessly personally attacking was not doing any of that, but in fact responding to your own fucking topic about prison rape with a discussion of the negative effects of state-controlled human kennels. Of course, you didn't actually WANT a discussio…
/r/MensRights10/05/14 08:45 PM
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Its was a protest against a cop who said blamed clothes choices for assault. Don't you think I know that? But one cop does not AN ENTIRE CULTURE make. This is what I'm talking about, because we don't know what their arguments are No--we really, REALLY do. It's not like feminists are shy about having INTERNATIONAL PROTESTS like Slutwalks. It's that the message they are sending is not based in fact, but in hysteria borne of a skewed worldview. To Slutwalk feminists, that one cop is just a single i…
/r/MensRights10/05/14 08:39 PM
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Yes. Yes, they are. When you don't have an argument, you attack your interlocutor. It's the stupidest, most base type of fallacy one can make in an attempt to sound reasonable when one is being unreasonable. To whit--it wouldn't matter if every MRA on the planet were the most misogynist piece of shit ever... if the arguments they are making are correct. The personal views of an individual have no bearing on the truth or falsity of their statements.
/r/MensRights10/05/14 04:39 AM
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I gave the mra poor grammer to highlight how the argument looks to anyone that has a good grasp on their slut walk, victim blaming and rape culture theories Slutwalk: the misguided damseling of young bourgeois women because someone somewhere at some point catcalled someone. HOW DARE THEY! Was anybody's pocket picked? Anybody's leg broken? Any crime committed whatsoever? Nope--just some amorphous "harassment" that is everywhere it can't be proven and nowhere it can be proven. Way to prove a negat…
/r/MensRights10/05/14 04:34 AM
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Does it matter what political opinion a person has if what the person says is logical and correct? No, it fucking doesn't. And when you lock people up like animals and then don't protect them from each other, they tear each other apart. We understand perfectly when dealing with dogs in kennels, but humans in jail? Fuck 'em. Violence is just "normal" there. How do you sleep at night?
/r/MensRights10/05/14 04:19 AM
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He suggests that the reason the MRA crowd is so dominated by atheists is that, if you’re a member of pretty much any of the world’s major religions, the patriarchy is built right in. The assumption of women’s inferiority and subjection is already established there, and men who want an excuse to feel superior to women needn’t make any special effort. On the other hand, the misogynists who aren’t religious don’t have that convenient excuse, so they have to explicitly argue for it – and that pretty…
/r/MensRights10/05/14 03:59 AM
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Masterpiece? The "masterpiece" of Islam, or the "masterpiece" of religion in general? Religion has the unique privilege of making good people believe in and practice horribly immoral things, like infant genital cutting or the condemnation of contraceptives. If I were to tell people that I plan on cutting my children's genitalia because I'm a follower of Elvis, people would call me crazy and take my children away from me.
/r/MensRights04/05/14 05:11 PM
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Patriarchy theory is bullshit; patriarchalism, the anthropological concept of male-headed hierarchical societies, is perfectly understandable. What differentiates the two is feminists' desire to essentialize real-life patriarchalism; they take the very real concept of phallocentric hierarchies in developing countries or (very problematically) historical communities and then map that concept onto western society. As anyone can recognize after a cursory examination of that move, there's absolutely…
/r/MensRights02/05/14 11:03 PM
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I'd be happy to read an article about that, or maybe just a self.post if you want to write one; but simply talking about people's reactions to the hijab, on women no less, does not make an article MR-related (to my way of thinking). Frankly, I've always felt that Muslim women were far more hypoagential and willing to use their own faith as privileged-victim status whenever it suits them; it does not surprise me that this particular woman found that people immediately censored themselves around h…
/r/MensRights02/05/14 10:45 PM
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Hear hear--I feel my bile rising when I hear the "anger" of feminists shouting down dissent at MR-related talks. It's bad enough that feminists project their own discontent onto us and say we're the evil angry violent ones shutting down their voices and threatening them; we should therefore doubly fight fire with water, dousing the unfocused ire of our opponents with the undeniable cool of logic and evidence.
/r/MensRights02/05/14 10:37 PM
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Yes--but don't forget that the "status" of men not only implies wealth, but also traditional masculine displays of heterosexuality. It would certainly not be in a woman's best interests to marry a man who might share his wealth with a male partner who understands him better; just the opposite. It behooves women to choose men who will compete with other men and narrow the playing field down for the women, so they don't have to narrow the field down themselves. So long as men are tearing each othe…
/r/MensRights02/05/14 10:32 PM
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Not MR-relevant; talks a bit about "impression management" and how people are overly sensitive nowadays, but the author is fundamentally ignorant to the very obvious fact that Muslims are hypersensitive to criticism and people have actually been killed for being insensitive to the Muslim community. Of course people are going to be overly-nice and apologetic towards someone wearing conservative Muslim attire--they aren't sure whether or not the wearer is part of the "death to the infidel" wing of…
/r/MensRights02/05/14 10:28 PM
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Kenyan law considers sex between men highly illegal: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Kenya#Laws_about_same-sex_sexual_activity ...but multiple wives are considered a cultural refuge. Hypergamy and homophobia often go hand-in-hand as part of traditionalist fundamentalism. It's a weak argument YetAnotherCommenter is making, but not unreasonable.
/r/MensRights02/05/14 10:18 PM
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Needlessly divisive and gender-essentialist. Men are no more strength-machines than women are sensitivity-machines; people are people, and men are falling behind in business and education because business is no longer financially viable except for the wealthy/connected and education is no longer economically feasible except for the wealthy/connected. Economic and educational recession/depression =/= men being the wrong fit for society.
/r/MensRights02/05/14 10:09 PM
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You're eyeing up the chocolate biscuits when a man starts tutting at you. "It would be a shame if a pretty girl like you let herself go." Surprise! You've been sexually harassed. You feel so embarrassed that you have to go home and cry to your cat. Indeed--how dare an unknown personage of the male persuasion indecorously deign to compliment a woman AND comment on her dietary habits! FOR SHAME, SIR! Meanwhile, all the real women in the world who don't have to immediately run home and cry to their…
/r/MensRights26/04/14 05:53 PM
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Wow--this is coming from Inside Higher Ed, as in a (formerly) respected academic newsletter? Regardless of the fact that the article sounds like it was written by a first-year undergraduate with no concept of order or style, this drivel passed muster in what purports to be a professional news and information resource for academics? They might as well have just linked to a Jezebel or Feministing article and given up the ghost on academic rigor.
/r/MensRights26/04/14 05:48 PM
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And see whether or not they're using it as a bullying definition--i.e., "I'm a feminist and I disagree with how you characterize feminism, so you are now not allowed to talk about feminism unless you talk about MY feminism, which is whatever I define or redefine at my own whim!" In other words, it's better not to even use the word "feminism" and instead just talk about the effects of feminism now, which are that current social services and discussions about human rights favor and pander to women…
/r/MensRights26/04/14 04:25 PM
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I think you can discount most internet brawlers' trash-talking as just that--talking trash. But there is some validity to discussions of whether women should be protected from their own stupidity beyond just size differentials in "equal rights deserve equal lefts". Bill Burr explains it better than I could: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AlvvCYUDHrQ (Please excuse the Manhood Academy bullshit) Basically, it seems like your idea behind it being "worse" to hit a woman than a man is size different…
/r/MensRights26/04/14 12:44 AM
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The feminist lobby in the US recently changed the definitions to included men raped by men, and RAINN have bee giving the stats on men being penetrated for a long time. I think that's all to the good; the definition of men being raped by WOMEN however, whether through envelopement or coercion, still remains woefully unrecognized. Here's an AVfM article on the subject: http://www.avoiceformen.com/mens-rights/false-rape-culture/manufacturing-female-victimhood-marginalizing-vulnerable-men/ If you w…
/r/MensRights25/04/14 04:34 PM
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But as these and other posts show: http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/23ybxp/ive_changed_my_mind_there_absolutely_is_a_rape/ http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/23uuqw/i_know_for_a_fact_that_the_people_behind_the/ The response to rape culture among men is almost nil. If anything, men are blamed evermore so for being "too masculine" and "not allowed to be vulnerable," as if perceived invulnerability was why so many men are shitting out their innards because of rape. This: (warnni…
/r/MensRights25/04/14 04:10 PM
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No--the feminist definition incorporates the normalization and minimization of rape; like say this lighthearted comedy with a joke about prison rape on its promotional poster: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0454987/ I guarantee you that if someone posed the concept of a lighthearted comedy about raping women came out with a poster showing a pair of bloody panties next to a bottle of alcohol, it would immediately be shot down for fear of inciting riots and rape culture hysteria.
/r/MensRights25/04/14 03:50 PM
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You're still not thinking with your brain--the fallacy of "moving the goalposts" is only relevant when someone asks for evidence as proof against their claims, then upon receiving such evidence, asks for yet more evidence to disprove their claims: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moving_the_goalposts Moving the goalposts, similar to "shifting sands" and also known as raising the bar, is an informal logically fallacious argument in which evidence presented in response to a specific claim is dismissed…
/r/MensRights23/04/14 03:31 PM
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OK you want to play that game? Gloves are off. No, they aren't. You just don't know what you're trying to say. Here--I'll prove it to you: And with no one willing to consider the possibility, it would be that much easier wouldn't it? Look, I'm not necessarily supporting every word he says. I'm saying he makes some powerful arguments. You don't like what they come packaged with, fine. So what you're trying to say is that because Roissy says needlessly inflammatory things like "soft genocide," I s…
/r/MensRights22/04/14 10:26 PM
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For example: If a male actor is playing a CEO or an evil bad guy, he has to be physically intimidating, or generally perceived as more masculine than would be the norm: big muscles, deep or overly raspy voice, grizzled grey hair, and/or a big square jaw. Otherwise, male viewers might feel that they are more 'manly' or intimidating than the character. You hear this all the time in theaters..."Pfff I could take that guy". This is obviously not the response you want from your male audience, as it m…
/r/MensRights22/04/14 09:31 PM
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If /MR spent all its time putting things the MRM isn't on the sidebar, we'd never have room for all the things we are and do. The fact alone that people associate the two is a shibboleth that they don't understand the two subreddits and are instead using the uninformed gossip of others to make their points.
/r/MensRights22/04/14 09:19 PM
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I will say though that women are partly responsible for the increasing commodification of men's bodies as producers seek to get more women into movie theaters. This is also why completely unnecessary love stories crop up in action films, or why attractive female costars are given snarky dialogue and a gratuitous "kick-ass" scene (Scarlett Johannson's Black Widow is the reigning queen). We all accept as read that the sexy female costar is there for "the male gaze," but we forget that females have…
/r/MensRights22/04/14 05:36 PM
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Insults and ad hominems: the last refuge of those who have nothing worthwhile to support their points. "I know you are, but what am I??" GTFO with that childish bullshit, and come back when you actually have something to contribute.
/r/MensRights22/04/14 05:18 PM
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I've been seeing for a while the "radical notion that men are people" being discussed in here, and it's kind of funny how radical that notion is to feminists. Meanwhile, I literally can't think of a single western law, cultural tradition, or piece of legislation that denies personhood to women. Anywhere. I've asked my feminist colleagues to name one when I get the line that "feminism is the radical notion that women are people", and I've only ever gotten responses that have nothing to do with my…
/r/MensRights22/04/14 04:17 PM
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Go to the International Conference on Men's Issues. The best thing to promote the MRM right now is visibility and active participation. Feminists have the advantage of the bully pulpit because all their resources go to supporting very public and very visual causes, so they can paint MRAs however they like and nobody can disprove their claims due to a lack of overall visibility of the MRM. Showing your support means showing up; if MRAs ever want to take back control over their own image they will…
/r/MensRights22/04/14 03:59 PM
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They've already done that, over and over and over. The fact that feminists can't seem to understand the difference between the PUA community and MRAs points to their unwillingness to listen to opposition, not our inability to control our brand.
/r/MensRights22/04/14 03:55 PM
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This is less a matter of discrimination and more a matter of sales; she is being treated just as poorly as you because she didn't get the job because of anything other than her physical beauty, and it sounds like the manager is already behaving inappropriately towards her. Women who get hired on their looks usually end up in "front desk"-type positions where beauty and approachability are commodities to project a good image to new customers; moving from the front desk to the boardroom requires a…
/r/MensRights22/04/14 03:52 PM
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A bit late to the party, but all good points. All points I've made to friends who manifest epic amounts of hate for the song, often without even understanding the lyrics. One friend could not even answer the simple question, "how many people are involved in the discussion in the song?" or "who is Thicke talking about when he says the line 'That man is not your maker!'?" It just goes to show you that feminism has become a thought-terminating cliché, obsessed with brazen partisanship even above an…
/r/MensRights22/04/14 03:47 PM
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If her milkshake doesn't bring the boys to the yard, she'll get the government to garnish their wages.
/r/MensRights22/04/14 03:37 PM
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Blame it on the patriarchy. Of course, the ACTUAL reason is that nobody trusts men to be around children without taking advantage of them sexually, a view perpetuated mainly by overprotective mothers of those selfsame children demanding stricter "protections" against the people they deem a "threat."
/r/MensRights22/04/14 03:31 PM
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Maybe it was because I put the zero-suit Samus before the original suit Samus, but your point is actually the same one I was making. I'm thinking everybody in here has Post-Traumatic-Sarkeesian-Disorder for downvoting my post when I was trying to say that objectifying people is bad... simply because I included "women". That's not cool, people. Not cool.
/r/MensRights22/04/14 03:27 PM
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If by "powerful arguments" you mean: If, as I theorize, extreme racial hybridization leads to racial demoralization, it makes sense that the white ruling elite would want to encourage cross-pollination of their distant-kin maidens with the world’s wretched horndogs. i.e., interracial procreation (the horror!) diluting white purity (and thus, morality?); And let's not forget this whole batch of stupid: Some leftoid SWPL freak is bitching about “white male privilege” and the unequaaaaal treatment …
/r/MensRights22/04/14 03:10 PM
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Was going to agree with the OP, until I read this article: http://everydayfeminism.com/2014/04/women-who-distrust-men/ The only relevant parts, for those who don't want to read the whole thing: We’re not saying that you’re guilty. You weren’t the one who committed the disrespectful/sneaky/violent acts toward the woman who distrusts you. But we live in a patriarchal culture that values men’s dominance over women, and these values affect everyone who lives in that culture, regardless of whether th…
/r/MensRights19/04/14 06:44 PM
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PUAs have no desire to change the unequal system of law and social thought that is in place today; they simply want to use the most callous and despicable elements of it (shaming, "negging," social peacocking, preying on naive young women, etc.) to advance their true goal of chasing after pussy. Literally, that's their only goal--how to get more pussy, regardless of anything else. MRAs are essentially masculinist in the way feminists operate: advocating for the advancement of men's issues. It ju…
/r/MensRights19/04/14 05:42 PM
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We are very sorry that people get raped... And we're actually wanting to EXPAND the discussion of rape to include the the statutory rape and abuse of power of underaged children by teachers in school, by juvenile detention facility workers, and rape by coercion and envelopment! But the fact that we also support that horrible "innocent until proven guilty" standard of criminal justice means we're rape apologists. ::nuclear facepalm::
/r/MensRights19/04/14 05:25 PM
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I'm not a fan of the feminization of male beauty in art these days. Not a single male character here has facial hair. Not even when it would make sense, like with Maleficent. The overwhelming emphasis on overly muscled bodies is just as much of an unreal body image for men as a stick-thin model body is for women. The "elfin" physical characteristics of the males' faces really only makes the characters "male" to the extent that they ape aggressively feminine standards of beauty, which are no more…
/r/MensRights19/04/14 04:53 PM
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Hat tip to Heartiste. You mean the PUA blog run by Roissy, the sometimes-white-nationalist anti-MGTOW anti-MRA prick? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HT4dzJhvy-U http://heartiste.wordpress.com/2013/09/20/do-the-white-elite-dream-of-mulatto-sheep/ http://heartiste.wordpress.com/2013/04/17/white-on-white-war/ http://heartiste.wordpress.com/2013/06/13/white-majority-in-the-us-gone-by-2043/ Fuck. That. Noise. As for your post, downvoted for being infused with antagonistic PUA garbage. As every MRA k…
/r/MensRights19/04/14 03:37 PM
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In a word? Yes. People who would silence dissent by prejudging others based on their political beliefs are at fault, both logically and morally. If your ideas and your movement cannot withstand healthy criticism, even misrepresentation and misinformation, it is not a viable movement. If you believe in the strength of your viewpoints you should be open to discussing them with ANYONE. To whatever extent that you are not willing to discuss your views, that is where the strength of your viewpoints e…
/r/MensRights05/04/14 07:27 PM
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I dunno--branding someone with a heart is pretty violent to me.
/r/MensRights02/04/14 04:28 PM
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Depends why they shun them. Not in a conference explicitly devoted to "inclusivity." You can't be exclusive and call yourself inclusive, any more than you can claim to be tolerant of all political viewpoints while silencing and marginalizing any potentially opposing viewpoints, which is exactly what is happening in this video.
/r/MensRights02/04/14 04:15 PM
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Refusing to give interviews to critical media has nothing to do with equality or not. There wasn't 1 single thing said in that entire video that suggested inequality in the feminist agenda. Except for conference organizers specifically warning people not to talk to certain media representatives. Seriously--the very concept of "inclusivity" and "openness" at any conference should include at least the opportunity to hear from critical viewpoints. What these conference organizers did is literally t…
/r/MensRights02/04/14 03:44 PM
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http://menbeproud.org/wiki/index.php/Patriarchy Interesting link--you might want to look further into more examples of female rulers throughout history, but that might also be falling into the feminists' apex fallacy of only looking at the top of the social ladder and improperly extrapolating to the entire society. Another fascinating area of research would be dowries, bride-prices, marriage, and lineality (patrilineal, matrilineal, etc.). The dowry is especially interesting because it has been …
/r/MensRights02/04/14 03:17 PM
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I've got [a] policy of not debating people [who] use attacks on character. <3
/r/MensRights02/04/14 02:36 PM
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Here's also a great video by Alain Soral on why feminism is not a solution to, but a benefactor of, class conflict: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Do5zrdTb-yI
/r/MensRights02/04/14 12:32 AM
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TL;DR You're still not educating yourself. I've got policy of not debating people that use attacks on character. Like when you claimed I was making my claims without evidence, and thus you could dismiss them without evidence? A claim which you made by referencing a Christopher Hitchens quote? These vids are opinions. ...of Christopher Hitchens. Whom you already referenced. Apparently when you do it, it's evidence; when I do it, it's opinion. You sound like a Feminist and, there is no use in deba…
/r/MensRights02/04/14 12:28 AM
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then who says I cant disavow jezebel and other crappy sections of feminism the same way? Because feminism already has the cultural, academic, and political legitimacy to make its message ubiquitous, so much so that it CAN encompass both Jezebel and academic feminism (even when they're not that far apart, like Luce Irigaray, who infamously decried the "masculine" "phallic" nature of Einsteinian physics). When feminists cry "Not All Feminists Are Like That," what they're actually saying is "I can …
/r/MensRights02/04/14 12:14 AM
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You sound like the guy in the above comment thread I linked to. Here's the response I gave to him: http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/21ght1/how_would_you_respond_to_this/cgewi2h Don't be that guy.
/r/MensRights01/04/14 04:58 PM
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Indeed--feminism is not even a valid social science, as there is no test for falsifiability of the data gathered by feminist "researchers." I think you're right about the relative levels of oppression being fluid throughout various cultures, but there seems to be few other terms to describe multiple systems originating simultaneously in cultures all across the world which feature a heavy bias of both responsibility and thus authority towards the male of the species. Matriarchal societies in Afri…
/r/MensRights01/04/14 02:39 PM
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Patriarchy isn't a theory--it's a political practice, like any legalized form of discrimination. We don't live in a patriarchal society here in the west because there is no legal option which men have that women cannot also have; there is no law or regulation or legally enforceable business practice that favors men over women. You simply can't find any. There are plenty that favor women over men, but that's why the MRM exists--to get rid of those unfair advantages, too. I've devoted a whole conv…
/r/MensRights01/04/14 12:12 AM
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If she can't at the very least respect your opinion (even if she disagrees with it), she can't respect you as a person. As to whether you should call her on her BS, of course--even if it ends the relationship. Let's put it this way--if she were with some other dude, and that dude was saying disrespectful things about women, wouldn't you want her to say "hey man, cut that shit out or we're through!"? Wouldn't you want her to stand up for herself? Then you need to be your own good boyfriend and st…
/r/MensRights01/04/14 12:02 AM
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He's Frank Devereaux.
/r/MensRights31/03/14 05:09 PM
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I do revel in the hypocrisy when feminists protest that we aren't militaristic enough after just having gotten through protesting that we're "raping the world" through our penis-shaped missiles.
/r/MensRights31/03/14 05:05 PM
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Do you have a link to her tweet?
/r/MensRights31/03/14 04:57 PM
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Educate myself You know how I know you haven't educated yourself on the subject of patriarchal institutions in the Middle East? Because you say things like this: All of the Islamic women and people I know, choose their role in that society, here in the USA. (emphasis mine) Was I talking about the US? No--here are my own words for you to see because you're clearly unable to read whole paragraphs: 2) Patriarchy quite clearly exists--in Sharia law, in patriarchal countries where women are actually …
/r/MensRights31/03/14 04:39 PM
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It takes two sexes to support any society and their roles. I for one, do not believe Patriarchy TheoryTM holds any water, anywhere, at any time in history. I'm sure that Saudi women would agree with you, if they could drive to polls to give their voice, so long as their male guardians agree to their statements, and so long as they keep themselves covered up so as not to invite sexual violation. From Amnesty Int'l's website, which is itself a laundry list of human rights abuses: Women’s rights Wo…
/r/MensRights28/03/14 03:01 PM
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1) MRAs don't blame women for the problems of our feminist landscape, we blame feminism. Feminism is NOT an institution that promotes equality of the sexes, it is an institution that promotes women's issues. All other causes are secondary to the promotion of women's issues, including equality. If anybody challenges you on that fact, ask them why feminists have not changed the name of their discipline now that women are living longer, being given more opportunities, achieving the majority of degr…
/r/MensRights26/03/14 11:37 PM
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Yeah--the effects of circumcision were completely mitigated in the original study by the fact that participants were also given condoms and instructed in condom use, so two more studies were proposed where they would track both condom usage and circumcision-only sex practices. Both studies' authors abandoned their own research due to the severe ethical conflicts with knowingly allowing HIV+ partners to engage in unprotected sex to determine transmission rates, and self-reporting data was then us…
/r/MensRights25/03/14 05:17 PM
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Respectfully, on the topic of birth control I would disagree--just look at the massive campaigns in myriad ways that supposedly "moderate" Christian right-wingers have been using to curtail abortion rights for women in the US. Hell, Wendy Davis literally had to filibuster just to keep lawmakers from shutting down almost all the Planned Parenthood centers in Texas, one of the biggest states in the US! There are also several laws on the books in Indiana and elsewhere criminalizing miscarriage beca…
/r/MensRights25/03/14 04:29 PM
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...and Christians are mostly moderate, but it isn't moderate Christianity that is trying to repeal abortion rights. Muslims are mostly moderate, but moderate Islam isn't trying to destroy western institutions with insurgent terrorism. Most corporations are just businesses; but it isn't average businesses buying off politicians and corrupting the government to do their bidding. This is NAFALT; Not All Feminists Are Like That. And while that may seem to be true, both moderate feminists and Feminis…
/r/MensRights25/03/14 04:05 PM
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"How dare that disgusting male try to impress me with the hopes that I would lower myself to submit to his sexual advances! HE RAPED ME WITH HIS LYRICS!"
/r/MensRights25/03/14 03:54 PM
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Cumming’s equation of circumcision with female genital mutilation is an insultingly inaccurate one — boys are not circumcised as a ritualized means of suppressing their future sexual enjoyment, http://www.cirp.org/library/cultural/maimonides/ http://www.kveller.com/baby_and_toddler/Circumcision_/why-circumcise.shtml nor does a clean male circumcision compare with the often crude, blunt and unsanitary practice of female genital mutilation. The vast majority of circumcisions take place in Africa a…
/r/MensRights25/03/14 03:49 PM

I normally don't upvote Daily Mail, but when I do, it's because of an awesome commentary at the bottom of the article. Carol Sarler is nowhere near an MRA, but she's got some similar qualms and even shares some of our concerns: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2381061/Todays-young-women-think-theyre-victims--Do-stop-whining-sisters-Weve-WON-sex-war.html http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2325114/CAROL-SARLER-Alison-Wolfs-new-book-The-XX-Factor-claims-Alpha-Women-leaving-rest-behi…
/r/MensRights24/03/14 05:01 PM
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Sounds like he is saying we shouldn't put someone in jail even if they ignored an explicit "no" so long as they thought (... or claim to have thought) there were "yes" cues. I disagree: if someone says no throughout sex and then presses charges after, then "I wanted to be her fantasy rapist" isn't a defense, however tragic. You're mistaking what Farrell calls "token resistance" as "someone saying no throughout sex who then presses charges after." What Farrell is pointing out in the quoted passag…
/r/MensRights22/03/14 04:34 PM
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We've known this for decades, even though nobody wants to do anything about it in the mainstream justice system: http://content.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,344041,00.html http://www.worldandischool.com/public/1994/april/school-resource11437.asp Others can do the research on just how big a business child support collection is for the agencies involved, but it's clearly a booming business. That's one of the pragmatic reasons why divorce and custody courts are so biased against the likeli…
/r/MensRights15/03/14 08:30 PM
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Yes, but these are corporate executive positions, not entry-level or even middle management positions. The people at these positions of power can command a great deal of money and favors to get where they want to, so it's simplistic and frankly offensive to think that women who make it to the higher tier of employment simply can't effectively sell themselves, especially when there is OBVIOUSLY such a push to include women on boards of directors and in executive positions all over the western wor…
/r/MensRights04/03/14 07:56 PM
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The original wording: "it's uncircumcised and freaks you out." If FHM magazine were giving reasons NOT to give a woman oral sex, and one of their main reasons is "she still has labia and it freaks you out," would you not consider that to be of clearly misogynist intent? I mean, I don't know about you, but preferring the look of victims of infant genital cutting seems to be a bad thing to me, not something we should sweep under the table as "you don't have to give blowjobs to those freaky uncut p…
/r/MensRights04/03/14 07:48 PM
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The offensive line was deliberately edited: http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/1zhlgs/feminist_writer_for_jezebelcosmopolitan_says_not/cftq1dq
/r/MensRights04/03/14 06:45 PM
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The offensive line was deliberately edited after it was published: http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/1zhlgs/feminist_writer_for_jezebelcosmopolitan_says_not/cftq1dq
/r/MensRights04/03/14 06:44 PM
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OAG (overly attached girlfriend). Though most people think that sort of behavior is "cute" on the internet, it's terrifying when it happens in real life, to a person you previously thought was not at all crazy. EDIT: for reference: http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/overly-attached-girlfriend
/r/MensRights04/03/14 06:37 PM
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My thoughts exactly. How little agency do women give for themselves when they have to have a database to promote themselves in the job market? Especially considering how much women are desired in top jobs because of silly "diversity" requirements (which are racist and sexist, since the implicit argument is that women and minorities think so radically different than men and white people that they constitute a different hiring pool). Maybe we should hire professional nannies for female CEO prospec…
/r/MensRights04/03/14 06:32 PM
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All of your wonderfully constructed material above is still just conjecture--the "anti-porn" law is still unfairly targeting women over men in women's own behaviors regardless of men's involvement (if it had been an "anti-looking-at-women law," THEN it might be MR-relevant). On top of that, it's not women who are ripping women's clothes off in the street, so there's an actual crime being perpetrated that you're sweeping under the rug. Should acid attacks against Afghani girls be considered an MR…
/r/MensRights03/03/14 06:06 PM
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Why should I settle for some chick in the US, when I can travel to Europe or Asia and have my pickings? No reason to limit oneself. This tells me all I need to know about your feelings about women. "My pickings," as if a billion women in "Europe and Asia" will simply fall all over your dick if you just happen to show up. I don't know about some third-world countries where you can simply buy a woman's (or girl's) hand in marriage the way you buy a slave, but if you're trying to date women in Chin…
/r/MensRights03/03/14 05:58 PM
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When you go in to a job interview, you don't do your own thing, you play by the companies rules. Women aren't the company--YOU are. Women are the applicants to YOUR company, they're applying to be a part of YOUR life. You don't change your life around for others any more than a company changes its industry standards simply based on the applications it receives. There's no "getting your foot in the door" with PEOPLE--people aren't goals to be achieved, they're individuals to be interacted with. Y…
/r/MensRights02/03/14 07:57 AM
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Ehh... I still don't see the MR perspective. Human rights? Sure. Women's rights? Yep. Sure, some men are being stripped, but then again this is a law primarily against women's clothing and women are the primary targets of the sexual violence being described. The targeting of men seems incidental to the larger question of "indecent" skimpy clothing such as is much more popular with women (very few men rocking the booty shorts + moose knuckle look, I'd imagine), which makes this piece incidental t…
/r/MensRights02/03/14 07:42 AM
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First of all, stop referring to women as vaginas, sluts and bitches. The least you could do is be respectful. I'm perfectly respectful of women--I treat them just like any other person. You don't. Example: Have you been in any major cities versus small towns? Women in major cities have a lot of expectations from a man, in small towns they'll give you a shot as long as you get along and she's even mildly attracted to you. Just go on OkCupid and look at a few profiles of women in New York versus s…
/r/MensRights02/03/14 07:36 AM
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But you don't get it. If I did that, I would be bitching about "where have all the good women gone?" in a few years or a decade. I understand what women are attracted to, and if I want to attract one, I need to play by her rules. I can't just go around and tell a woman "this is how I do things" and have her play along. I'll get rejected, time and time again. Just like the 30 something women who think they can attract a man with their careers and degree. More defeatism. "I can't refuse women, bec…
/r/MensRights02/03/14 06:57 AM
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Is this about men's rights? I see that it's in conjunction with the anti-gay bill, which largely targets male homosexual acts for prosecution, but other than that this is a women's rights issue. It's screwed up, but not men's rights-related, in my mind.
/r/MensRights02/03/14 06:35 AM
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Bucharest is pretty, but there aren't enough jobs there. Or at least any jobs other than factory-floor jobs you don't want and high-level consulting jobs you probably can't get. There's a reason why the GDP of Eastern European countries is low and the alcoholism rates are sky-high; there's nothing to do but drink and migrate west to hopefully get jobs putting together rich western europeans' shelving units. Again, you're trading a relatively rich economic situation for a decidedly poorer economi…
/r/MensRights02/03/14 06:00 AM
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By most women. I couldn't help amending your above statement. And not even that--you've already convinced yourself you're not going to find anybody by assuming they must all be exactly the same. Are you exactly the same as every sex-hungry white knight mangina? So why do you assume every woman, or even the majority of women, are gold-digging whores and entitlement queens? Why do you not even give them the benefit of the same doubt and possibility of difference you ascribe to yourself? Unless you…
/r/MensRights02/03/14 04:58 AM
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The thing is, no matter where you live, men are still expected to follow their gender roles. Expected... by whom? I don't follow any traditional gender role for being a man, except that I do follow the "tradition" of being a human and working at a job. I don't expect to be fed by the universe as I navel-gaze my way through life or some hippy notion. What I wonder is why you're operating with this persecution complex such that you feel you need to escape to a third world country rather than simpl…
/r/MensRights02/03/14 04:26 AM
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The whole woman belongs in the household while the man works isn't something strange or something I necessarily agree with, but at least, if I'm going to be expected to do X, then the woman should do Y. In those instances, especially for lower-middle-class families who can get by but who can't afford hiring nannies, this might be a viable option. But if you're rich enough to hire nannies, you should be; and if you're so poor that you can't afford nannies, having children might not be an economic…
/r/MensRights02/03/14 04:14 AM
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But at least a man being expected to be the head of the household, a provider, etc a man would get something out of it in those countries. That's a traditionalist viewpoint I don't agree with, any more than I would agree with having the woman be expected to be the head of the household and provider. Gender roles are just that--roles, not destinies. Or life sentences without the possibility of anything better. Nobody in history ever believed that parenting was a job for just one parent until adve…
/r/MensRights01/03/14 06:48 AM
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Until Russia invades.
/r/MensRights01/03/14 06:27 AM
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It's my understanding that China, Russia, and other countries with a less-than-stellar feminist presence also have a higher likelihood of patriarchalism--homophobia, regressive attitudes towards women, violence, sex, religion, etc. If you were looking at a place purely for the amount of advantages men have relative to women, Saudi Arabia would be your best bet--all the rights for men... but none for women. I'd like to think MRAs would not be any happier with that state of affairs than the virtua…
/r/MensRights01/03/14 06:10 AM
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What will getting laid accomplish? Will I be a real man? Are all my ideas just a cover for desperately wanting the warm embrace of some chick's cooch? Can my ideas not be separated from my penis? Am I not more than the cock between my legs? Would my ideas be more valuable if a woman was saying them rather than me? According to you, at least on some level... no. How sad for you and your pitiful female-worshipping worldview. Say hi to /theredpill for me.
/r/MensRights25/02/14 06:05 PM
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I work better bouncing ideas off of others. I've tried writing my own blog, and it became introspective nazel-gazing nonsense. My ideas are better spread liberally among comments than gathered together in one big steaming pile.
/r/MensRights25/02/14 05:59 PM
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(2/2) Feminists in the west nowadays are IMO more or less on the same playing field as MRAs, and the way that many of them act like they aren't is toxic. Feminists have millions of dollars in federal, state, and local taxpayer dollars funding political lobbying groups, international organizations, and academic propaganda institutions all across the western world, demanding obeisance from the highest levels of politics and society to their wishes and ideologies. MRAs have this subreddit, and a bl…
/r/MensRights25/02/14 06:27 AM
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(1/2) Bit misleading to say that women achieved universal suffrage at the same time as men. White landowning men were always represented (in america). Bit misleading to say that women achieved universal suffrage at the same time as men White landowning men were always represented universal suffrage universal http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_mDTLphIVY Women in the UK fought for and achieved universal suffrage during WW1, while the men serving in that war wouldn't actually achieve universal suffra…
/r/MensRights25/02/14 06:26 AM
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Also the passive-aggressive controlling--"I want you to want to lift my stupidly heavy bag!"
/r/MensRights25/02/14 01:35 AM
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And yes, historically many things were in favor of men [citation needed] Historically, men have been the beasts of burden at every level of society, and their rights have been either systematically ignored or completely disregarded. Women in western countries achieved the right to universal suffrage in most cases within the same decade as men, and there was never a similar requirement for women to be conscripted into military service as a condition of suffrage except in Israel. Organizations for…
/r/MensRights25/02/14 01:29 AM
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I love it when feminists demand that we not judge people for their physical appearances and then judge certain men as unfit to have an opinion because of their physical appearance. Many famous feminists would handsomely fit into the female version of "fat neckbeard" territory. Does anybody from the MRM say that their ideas shouldn't be taken seriously because of their physical appearance? Nope--we're better than that.
/r/MensRights25/02/14 12:47 AM
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Exactly! Especially as it came on the heels of her mentioning that male victims had been lumped into "female victims of violence" in the Ottowa study, Wolf was actually PROVING Karen's point that feminism marginalizes the experiences of male victims of DV. When it comes to DV, women don't need to "woman up," men need to "man up" and fight their own victimization, stand up for their own victimization. When men are being beaten by their partners, how are they supposed to "stand up" for that? Why a…
/r/MensRights25/02/14 12:30 AM
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That's one of the more striking ideas I've come to realize, both in the MRM and in mainstream discussions of gender. If you're a man, your opinion is worth less, regardless. Even I don't listen to male podcasters and youtubers talk about men's issues as much as I listen to females talk about men's issues. The desire everyone has to be loved and accepted by the "right" gender is absolutely pervasive throughout our culture.
/r/MensRights25/02/14 12:16 AM
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They're only into them when in competition with other women; if men suddenly enter the picture, those things become "nerdy--gross!" again, and forcing women to stoop to man-children's "frat boy" level is demeaning.
/r/MensRights18/02/14 09:11 PM
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Humanist?
/r/MensRights18/02/14 09:07 PM
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To the past few people to comment, I don't think peregr1ne came here to be lectured o.o She or he probably came here to share her opinion, not read walls of text that aim at converting him/her to another movement. But isn't that the point of having a subreddit devoted to supporting political and social activism? If I were to go into a libertarian subreddit (as I often have) and proclaim my belief in the necessity of government-controlled social services, should I not expect pushback from the ver…
/r/MensRights18/02/14 09:03 PM
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Here what goes? You're not making any sense. Are you replying to the wrong comment or something?
/r/MensRights17/02/14 03:50 AM
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Whoa whoa whoa--I'm calling extreme bullshit on this statement. In every single post you've done on here, people have either been politely in disagreement about your support of feminism or outwardly supportive of you being here. Do you even have ONE example of ONE person being "an ass" to you in this comment thread? Because I'm not seeing it. I'm not seeing what "everyone" is doing to you, supposedly; do you have any facts? It sounds like you need to check your victimization alarm. NOBODY's targ…
/r/MensRights17/02/14 03:39 AM
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The problem that MRAs point out about feminists is that there is a hierarchy of concern, and women's concerns win out over men's concerns regardless of whether or not that concern is justified. The fact of the matter is that feminism has advocacy everywhere--literally everywhere, amounting to hundreds of local, state, and national organizations whose explicit goal is promoting women's interests using taxpayer funds, as well as an ingrained institutional presence at every single taxpayer-funded i…
/r/MensRights17/02/14 03:25 AM
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You want a smoking gun for an international movement of lobbying organizations whose pressure tactics are both covert and decentralized, even perhaps unconsciously maintained by the status quo? I agree with Portaleso--you're asking for impossible evidence. Have feminist groups gained very large lobbying power? Yes--indisputably: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Women's_political_advocacy_groups_in_the_United_States The National Organization for Women has the widest lobbying arm of any gende…
/r/MensRights11/02/14 06:25 AM
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Hey--even a broken clock is right twice a day; she's got the right point here, but that doesn't mean she can't be wrong elsewhere.
/r/MensRights04/02/14 11:54 PM
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I wish I knew what you were talking about--never read any Milton. But it sounds like the teacher in your class hasn't read any either, at least, not directly. People who read texts with ideological goggles on aren't reading the text in my opinion, they're reading their own assumptions into the text. That's just bad reading skills.
/r/MensRights04/02/14 11:45 PM
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I think the MRM's view would be something along the lines of "whatever HE wants to be." This isn't just a throwaway line, because society in many instances requires or at the very least encourages men to something SOMEONE ELSE wants them to be; in the past, being a soldier was considered "manly" simply because it meant taking orders and sacrificing yourself. Nowadays being a soldier for a woman doesn't mean the same thing as being a soldier for a man; female soldiers are encouraged to balance th…
/r/MensRights04/02/14 11:38 PM
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My favorite comment: I love that the university is charging extra to increase security to protect a woman from violent women protesters, and the woman's protested message is that women can be violent. I'm still donating to CAFE, though--keep up the good work!
/r/MensRights04/02/14 10:09 PM
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If you're pulling fire alarms, blocking entrances, toting improvised weapons for the purpose of threatening violence, and creating human barricades so that people cannot enter/leave buildings, you're most definitely in an illegal protest. The fact that the police were ACTUALLY on hand and still didn't arrest anybody is not tacit approval that the tactics used are legal in all situations. You have to admit that if MRAs had used the same tactics against feminists trying to have a peaceful lecture,…
/r/MensRights04/02/14 10:03 PM
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Feminism: the radical notion that women are idiots.
/r/MensRights31/01/14 07:53 AM
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I bring up contracts because there is a citizen created by the action. A citizen that can burden the state for an indeterminate time, similarly to a rogue product that harms people. Additionally, there is something that is created by sexual relations, so I likened the relations to a contract, so I could then explain basic levels of contracts, and how pregnancy is similar. You know what I don't see anywhere in anything you're saying, but especially right here? CHOICE. "An action" creates "a citiz…
/r/MensRights31/01/14 07:39 AM
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I explained pretty clearly that's it's an implicit contract, like a verbal contract, that consensual sex, sex that is legal, can end in pregnancy. And the courts act as if an implicit contract was created between the two people. And if you get into a car, it's implied that you will have to pay for any accidents you get into. Even though you have insurance, you will be at fault if any accidents happen. Because the accident is implied just by you being in the car on the road, right! Your logic is …
/r/MensRights31/01/14 03:15 AM
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It's important to give a meaningful argument as to whether or not a an implicit contract is created by impregnating a woman. Yet you don't give anything besides caveats about what DOESN'T make an implicit contract--any explicit contracts AGAINST pregnancy, whatever the hell a "naked penis" means in the age of 15 different kinds of HORMONAL birth control that have nothing to do with condoms, rape of women by men, fertility problems in either partner, etc. So many things stand in the way of your "…
/r/MensRights31/01/14 01:50 AM
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How is it a "win" for a child if the father opts out and the mother can't support the child? How is that the win for the mother either? I fail to see the logic in that argument. Since you didn't take the time to READ what I wrote, let me copy-paste it for you instead of explaining it again: Again, which is better for the economy--having ONE support payer who has to bankrupt himself and possibly even be unable to pay for the child's upkeep, leading all 3 members of the family into poverty, or hav…
/r/MensRights29/01/14 06:10 AM
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by not giving both people the responsibility of their own loins would hurt the welfare of the child, and overall the stability community. Logically, the opposite is the case--by putting all the responsibility on just one or two individuals to care for a child, you increase the likelihood that ALL of the people involved (both the parents and the child) suffer because the risks of failure are much higher. If we say men must pay child support, what if they can't pay? We can't tell men to pay child …
/r/MensRights29/01/14 04:29 AM
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The problem is women bore children, it is there's. So the analog doesn't follow. That would be like if you has 20 seconds of support for someone but you spent 10 months making it. It would be yours not someone else's. Another way to look at this is that a pregnant woman is literally infected by a man, even if it were consensual, with parasite, or baby, in her womb. In a way this could be viewed as a malicious act that could have been stopped by the man, and he's reasonable on some account. You r…
/r/MensRights28/01/14 09:37 PM
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Yep--no rights, just responsibilities.
/r/MensRights28/01/14 08:10 PM
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when two people have sex they're acknowledging the chance of pregnancy. Acknowledging the presence =/= consenting to the responsibilities. When you go out on the road, you acknowledge the presence of potentially lethal danger in the form of other drivers and perhaps even yourself. You understand that violence may be done either by your hands or by others. However, that doesn't mean you consent to the responsibilities of that violence just by driving. And even if you did get into an accident, one…
/r/MensRights28/01/14 08:02 PM
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If men have custody they can do the same exact thing. But what about if they don't have custody? Men with custody get the same rights as women, but do women without custody (say, those that give up their children for adoption) deserve to have their wages garnished by the state to pay for those children? Why do women get that "choice once the child is born"? It's in their body. Umm... 5th grade human sexuality--babies don't stay in women's tummies forever. You haven't answered my actual question.…
/r/MensRights28/01/14 07:51 PM
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Getting a woman pregnant is a fallacy? Semantics much? Choose your poison: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fallacies I don't operate with an encyclopedic knowledge of what fallacies do what, because the whole point of pointing out fallacious logic is to show that crucial evidence has been either intentionally or unintentionally covered up to produce the wrong result. In this case, "getting pregnant" vs. "someone getting someone pregnant" vs. "two someones acting in such a way that would pro…
/r/MensRights28/01/14 07:37 PM
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I'm firm believer that both parties are responsible for the child they create. Excellent--in your estimation, we should make abortion illegal, garnish women's wages to pay for the children they give up for adoption, and prosecute women who abandon their children at Safe Havens to the fullest extent of the law. Was it your intention to return the debate about women's rights to the early 1900s? Because none of the "cromags" in here actually want that. You see, they want rights and freedoms to be e…
/r/MensRights28/01/14 07:24 PM
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Also, Men DO have control of their reproductive rights. Men can choose to have sex. No one is forcing you. Unless you are raped, like OP suggests, you are in control of your body. Consenting to sex =/= consenting to parenthood, for EITHER gender. Just because you "choose" to have sex, does not mean you "choose" to take on the responsibilities of OTHER PEOPLE'S choices about parenthood. If men had the choice to be parents or surrender their parental obligations the way women can at any point befo…
/r/MensRights28/01/14 07:17 PM
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In an ideal world the couple would have already discussed this issue before having sex and there would be no problems agreeing on the best solution for the parents involved. In an ideal world, there wouldn't be a need for legal recourse for men who don't want to be fathers. But because there IS a legal recourse to punish men who don't want to be fathers, "discussing the issue" is useless; regardless of verbal or even written contracts, the woman can decide wholly on her own and without the man's…
/r/MensRights28/01/14 07:11 PM
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Yep--it's the idea of shared risk, what I would assume is a very basic idea in economics. Rather than making one individual person solely at risk for the failure of a certain idea or structure, you disperse (sorry--not disburse) the risk among many people, lessening the potential fallout. Insurance companies use shared risk to mitigate high healthcare costs for some; it's unlikely that everybody in America will need surgery every year, but one person's surgery could cost hundreds of thousands of…
/r/MensRights28/01/14 07:00 PM
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Yay<sup>9001</sup>
/r/MensRights28/01/14 06:53 PM
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Sorry--happens to me all the time. Determining when an idea is worthy of upvotes is like trying to piss on a fly. Better to just speak your piece and let the votes fall where they may.
/r/MensRights28/01/14 06:52 PM
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The thing is these 2 are just not the same thing. It's not a double standard, it's just two different things. It sucks if you fuck up and impregnate a woman. It sucks if she won't handle it. Guys don't have a choice once the child is born. They only have a choice before. Besides, in our world irresponsibility is always frowned on, this is no different. You keep saying that, so why is it perfectly okay for a woman to abandon their children in Safe Havens like hospitals or police stations, even if…
/r/MensRights28/01/14 06:49 PM
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Tell the redditor above me, to whom I was responding. Hence the threaded comment.
/r/MensRights28/01/14 06:39 PM
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I find it odd how many people have interpreted my comment as one criticizing or minimizing the impact of abortion. You might not be doing that, but it sounds like it, and the amount of vitriol I've received for that is interesting considering what I'm about to say... The idea that a woman has to have not only the emotional weight of a pregnancy, as well as the medical weight is the key factor here, imo. and It is much easier for a man to leave with no ties at all then a woman, once and if the ba…
/r/MensRights28/01/14 06:35 PM
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Life isn't fair, but that doesn't mean we should not seek to INCREASE fairness, or simply randomly DECREASE fairness for any particular group purely out of pique. If we're really going to say there's "no logical alternatives" to men having to consent to pregnancy, then why can women, who actually have to gestate the fetus, simply abandon their responsibilities whenever they choose? Surely women, as biologically connected to having a baby as one can get, should be more "on the hook" for supportin…
/r/MensRights26/01/14 06:56 AM
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Condoms, vasectomies, sodomy, outercourse, and abstinence. ...none of which address my point, which is that in the case of accidental pregnancy, men should have the right to decide NOT to be legally obligated to provide for the pregnancy and resulting child that they did not consent to have. Having sex is not consent to pregnancy or child-rearing, for men or for women. There's actually a bigger stigma against women who decide to abort. Whose stigma is bigger? Does that really matter? If your sex…
/r/MensRights26/01/14 06:10 AM
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Not necessarily--some court decisions have actually sided with Child Protective Services over fathers or not even bothered to inform a parent of his possible custody options upon the loss of the mother as a viable custodial parent. But even without those exceptions, I'm not forgetting anything; but you're impugning that somehow I'm not being honest and logical by wanting men to have the same opt-out options as women. If men want to opt out, they probably want to opt out--unlike Disney movies and…
/r/MensRights26/01/14 05:53 AM
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Ahh--that clarifies the situation. And shows how bad this really is: Hood faces one count of sexual assault, one count of sexual interference, two counts of luring minors over the internet for a sexual purpose and two counts of sexual exploitation of a young person, RCMP said in a news release. http://cdn.sheknows.com/articles/2011/06/chris-hansen-1.jpg
/r/MensRights26/01/14 03:10 AM
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"Men are bosses, women are bossy" Men are tools to be used and thrown away, women are special snowflakes to be protected with reams of safety legislation "Men are persuasive, women are pushy" Men are rapists, women can't rape men "Men are dedicated, women are selfish" --wait, people say this? No. No, they don't. Men aren't "dedicated" for never being home for their families, they're "bad parents", and you can use their long hours in divorce court as ammunition to take the kids away from them. Wo…
/r/MensRights26/01/14 03:05 AM
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No, but we shouldn't force a man to give up thing for a mother. However, we should force a man to give up a certain amount of his wealth for the child he created. contradicts Because a child in society requires support, and that support can come from the parents or the state. Who do you think will "force" men to give up their income for children they don't want and didn't consent to having? Unicorns? No--the state. So either way, you're looking at state intervention into the lives of others; onl…
/r/MensRights26/01/14 02:45 AM
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Do you always support pedophilia? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primary_education#Canada A 37 year old teacher had sex with students no older than 12 years old. If you aren't going to change your view based on this case, I don't think anything can change your view. Back here in realityland, abusing children is wrong.
/r/MensRights26/01/14 02:36 AM
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Huh? "ELEMENTARY school teacher"--as in, her students were from 5-12 years of age: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primary_education#Canada That's not 15 or 16, that's not even pubescent; she was having sex with young children, and apparently it wasn't an isolated incident: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/sex-related-charges-laid-against-stellarton-female-teacher-1.2510268
/r/MensRights26/01/14 02:33 AM
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Hey--personal accountability doesn't stop at pregnancy; if people want to be parents, that doesn't mean you can't call them bad parents. And if people choose to have kids when they clearly don't have the resources, maturity, or desire to raise those kids appropriately, it's totally fair to call those irresponsible people out on it. What a financial abortion should be about is a way for a man to disagree with a woman about keeping an accidental pregnancy without, as khanyewest said up above, forc…
/r/MensRights26/01/14 02:10 AM
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The idea of "getting" a woman pregnant is a fallacy--unless you rape a woman against her will and then keep her away from any opportunity to receive an abortion, she is consenting to pregnancy by remaining pregnant. She has contraception, the morning-after pill, RU-486 (the abortion pill) in certain regions, and surgical abortions once the fetus is too large for an effective pharmaceutical abortion procedure. And that's just during the pregnancy--she can also choose to give the baby up for adopt…
/r/MensRights25/01/14 11:45 PM
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Yes, those KIDS who were ALSO DRUNK at the party the GIRL HOSTED where EVERYBODY was underage. So the boys are responsible when the girl is not? Fuck feminism--this girl must not be able to handle anything serious whatsoever, considering that she needs to be taken care of by more responsible younger similarly drunk underage boys. Maybe we should just go ahead and make it illegal for women to drive cars, if they can't even be responsible for not getting illegally drunk and driving? It would make …
/r/MensRights25/01/14 10:46 PM
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I hesitate to put biological arguments up either for or against this discussion; frankly, pooping is one of the most biologically natural things humans can do, but nobody wants someone to just pop a squat right in the middle of the train car. I would say that social appropriateness levels should be generally equal in this regard; granted, women have a much easier time showing off their bodies due to women's fashion allowing and even fetishizing the various body parts of females for public view. …
/r/MensRights20/01/14 02:25 AM
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I can understand looking--but staring for minutes at a time? One woman stared at the bulge for 15 minutes! Even amongst the most brotastic of guys, staring for longer than a few seconds is considered bad form. And taking pictures? Hell, when men were taking pictures of women in public, the social justice brigade practically shat itself with outrage. Yet I guarantee you their reaction to this video will be "meh." Say it with me--pussy.... pass
/r/MensRights20/01/14 01:39 AM
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I also think that our culture is absolutely permeated with institutions that blame, undermine, and repress women. And I think that we continually, through media or whatever, idealize the notion of being “a man” while degrading what it means to be a woman. Feminist talking points, right at the beginning. Ugh. I also think that our culture is absolutely permeated with institutions that blame, undermine, and repress women. Permeating institutions that blame, undermine, and repress women? Like what-…
/r/MensRights20/01/14 12:50 AM
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I don't think the site's approach is actually any different than regular dating websites like OkCupid. As one fake OkCupid user found out, male members are "desperate" enough to message anyone reasonably attractive: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/14/okcupid-user-pretends-to-_n_2128863.html (I take issue with the user's strategy, because it assumes that male users actually read the profile before messaging the fake account) But what this site presumably does is simply disallow male members…
/r/MensRights12/01/14 11:41 PM
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I'm responding to the top comment so that people don't misunderstand the meaning of the above advertisement. I've said it elsewhere but it should be made more obvious to everyone just how bad this advertisement is: I think the overall impression isn't that women have to do the "legwork," but rather than they are in fact shopping for what are literally called products. As in, the whole emphasis behind modern-day feminism is to avoid treating women like objects, but this website literally has "hom…
/r/MensRights12/01/14 05:38 AM
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I think the overall impression isn't that women have to do the "legwork," but rather than they are in fact shopping for what are literally called products. As in, the whole emphasis behind modern-day feminism is to avoid treating women like objects, but this website literally has "hommes-objets a caliner," literally "man-things" or "man-parts to fondle". If a dating site only allowed men to make first contact with women, we might have a problem with it as well; but if that same website was calle…
/r/MensRights12/01/14 05:34 AM
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It is a personal attack, and whenever I get confronted by this sort of logic in person, I treat it as a personal attack. Whenever feminists (or anybody, for that matter) wants to talk smack about MRAs, I tell them they have to talk smack about me personally. Whenever somebody wants to tell " the Patriarchy<sup>TM</sup> " to check its privilege, I tell that person that they have to tell me to check my privilege, personally. Because either an attack is personal or it is a meaningless generalizatio…
/r/MensRights12/01/14 05:25 AM
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To be fair, Nabokov's book WAS banned in many libraries and universities when it first came out, and still faces a great deal of public backlash. The worst part is that Nabokov's book spawned the concept of the "lolita" phenomenon, that ALL men loved underage girls; I can hardly imagine that this book, or any book on female pedophiles, would spawn a cultural conceit of widespread pernicious female pedophilic desire... even as female pedophilia becomes so commonplace as to not even be questionabl…
/r/MensRights11/01/14 09:04 PM
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http://www.loonwatch.com/2010/01/terrorism-in-europe/ This is why there are lies, damn lies, and then statistics. Your linked article does not differentiate between the terrorism of blowing up oneself in a busy street and the "eco-terrorism" of the Animal Liberation Front. Therefore, all those western left-wing "terrorist" activities that are being done (like vandalism, according to the Auckland police) are being counted as just as heinous as suicide bombings and political assassinations. As far…
/r/MensRights29/12/13 07:19 PM
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Youre missing my point entirely, what i was trying to tell you is that since there is no correlation acutely present or historical beween being nuslim and being a cunt. There are a host of videos, especially those with Christopher Hitchens, debunking the relativistic apologetics towards Islamic fundamentalism by comparing it to Christian fundamentalism. Where are the Christian suicide bombers? Where are the Christian fringe groups' political assassinations? How many Christian fundamentalist orga…
/r/MensRights29/12/13 02:10 PM
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While your ideas are interesting, I think that adolescence is a far more dangerous time than the first few weeks of life for forming cognitive responses to traumatic incidents. Scientsts aren't even sure that infants are actually forming new memories properly: http://www.livescience.com/32963-why-dont-we-remember-being-babies.html "Episodic memory" isn't even usually acquired before the ages of 2 to 4, so a Jewish infant at 8 days old may have no way of understanding the episode of a bris--while…
/r/MensRights29/12/13 03:08 AM
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If you want to get technical, the Crusades were 6-700 years ago, Tudor England almost 500 years ago, and witch-burning was 3-400 years ago. 98% of Muslim boys aged 5-15 are being circumcised in **2013*. In comparison to the western world, where liberal democracies, inalienable human rights, demands for fair wages and widespread access to top-quality health care, the atrocities in Africa and the Middle East have absolutely no comparison.
/r/MensRights28/12/13 10:50 PM
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I firmly believe in the patriarchy--feminists love being Daddy's special little snowflakes. Daddy pays for their school, Daddy pays their bills when it's just so hard to work, Daddy takes care of them whenever they get a sniffle, Daddy beats up the meanie-head who doesn't want to play house by snowflake's rules (and takes the poo-poo face's money to give to His little darlings). Daddy protects his little snowflakes from cradle to grave, and nobody can hurt Daddy's little darlings while He stands…
/r/MensRights28/12/13 02:42 AM
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The research on the psychological effects of routine infant circumcision is unclear, but it should also be remembered that 98% of Muslim men worldwide are circumcised, and unlike western and Jewish men most male circumcisions are done on the boy when he is age 5-15. As in, YOUR age. While babies may not actually have the ability to remember being held down and cut, adolescents most certainly do. What I would be interested to know is whether or not at least some of the violence and hatred of wome…
/r/MensRights28/12/13 02:17 AM
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I think that marriage SHOULD be a good thing, but like all things which feminism has taken over, it has been poisoned. Marriage these days is a pit stop for women in between their free-wheeling teens and their free-wheeling divorcée years. Women who are young have no interest in being tied down, and women who are past "the bullshit" (i.e., settling down, buying a house, having kids... basically LIFE) can't wait to get away either. That's why you see so many 40 year old cougars hopping planes to …
/r/MensRights28/12/13 02:08 AM
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I do want to point out one thing, though: your point about men's lack of rights in family courts is pretty frequently proven false. I'm sure, if you're as much of a knowledge-seeker as you portray yourself to be, you'd know the statistics: 90% of the time, the mother is granted custody in a mutual agreement, men who fight for custody get it 70% of the time, blah blah blah. Those facts don't matter, though. Only the ones that help you paint feminists as being evil do. Citation? Because The Nation…
/r/MensRights26/12/13 09:57 PM
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One does not voluntarily become unable to pay one's debts to the point that one is put in prison. You are mistaken in your apprehension of the situation.
/r/MensRights20/12/13 07:21 AM
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I can just imagine the divorce court battles between two lesbian partners trying to out-hypoagency each other. Who's the bigger victim? Tonight on Judge Fuck My Life!
/r/MensRights20/12/13 07:01 AM
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I'm not the above respondent to your comment, but I just wanted to pipe up saying that I think you don't want a "serious conversation" about anything except what you already believe. You want to have a serious conversation with MRAs in this subreddit the way that a Mormon wants to have a serious conversation about Jesus with random people in the street. If you spent any time at all investigating this subreddit, you would know that patriarchy theory is roundly criticized, but you don't ask in you…
/r/MensRights20/12/13 06:58 AM
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I know this is not a criminal trial, I know he won't get an actual criminal sentence. But whatever happens afterwards will be due to their hearing, i.e. banned from uni. Now, if they think he hasn't committed rape, then that's the end. If they think he has and punish him as such, then they are saying they have enough proof to be sure this happened and will 'discipline them according to their code'. If they think 'he might have' and in the interest of safety of others, punish him. Then they are s…
/r/MensRights20/12/13 06:06 AM
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I had to look up John Terry, but I think you're misunderstanding the point of disciplinary hearings. I don't want to say you're misunderstanding intentionally, but I deliberately put my point in ALL CAPS so that it couldn't be physically missed. I just don't get how a company can find you guilty of a crime (which has a life sentence) when the police won't find you guilty or even charge you. Did you not read where I said that disciplinary hearings are not criminal proceedings? Now, there might be…
/r/MensRights17/12/13 09:43 PM
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You're confusing anonymity in court cases with anonymity FROM EVERYTHING, including substantiation of any claim whatsoever. What the "anonymous" rape form does is give people carte blanche to submit any number of egregious behaviors without any substantiation at all. It's a terrible form of unregulated unnecessary fear-mongering, and if people are actually kicked out of Occidental College simply because of a completely unsigned accusation, then the system is broken. Don't like your professor? Ra…
/r/MensRights17/12/13 07:05 PM
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Pardon me for further devaluing your opinion, but I heartily disagree that anyone in the anti-circ camp devalues THE VICTIMS of circumcision. In fact, any devaluation is coming from the pro-circ camp who support "tradition" or "cleanliness" as superior to "the boy's right to his own bodily choice". Also, YES--I am clearly devaluing your mother in this case. SHE IS NOT A VICTIM. Perhaps she cut on you because of some misguided principle, but SHE still cut on YOU. That's not a good thing, nor a ri…
/r/MensRights17/12/13 06:57 PM
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If being accused of a crime though, your testimony is future evidence and as such, attorneys should be allowed to be present (imo). Understandable, but the crime usually isn't the focus of the inquiry--the liability of the company and the repercussions on the employee are. Think of it like an impeachment trial--when a politician has done something egregiously wrong, he is impeached; not because the impeachment trial IS his trial for the wrongdoing, but because he is being taken out of his status…
/r/MensRights17/12/13 06:46 PM
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Yet another example of how feminism harms women.
/r/MensRights17/12/13 06:38 PM
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As an administrator who has done several disciplinary hearings, there's no "crime" being adjudicated. Whether criminal charges are brought up after the fact is up to the particular department in consultation with their lawyer. The disciplinary hearing is just for kicking the person out of the department or even the company, in much the same way that a college disciplinary hearing kicks a person out of the college. Now, if a person lost a disciplinary hearing and THEN had to serve jail time, that…
/r/MensRights17/12/13 06:36 PM
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They're both raped and not raped, until the rape is observed, at which point there's a dead cat or something. The point of Schrodinger's Cat was that it was a fallacy--the cat CANNOT actually be both alive and dead, so the "fuzzy" interpretation of rules concerning the progression of events in quantum mechanics are fundamentally wrong. Schrodinger's own words: One can even set up quite ridiculous cases. A cat is penned up in a steel chamber, along with the following device (which must be secured…
/r/MensRights17/12/13 06:32 PM
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I apologize if others are downvoting you based on my vitriolic response--I simply have a lot of emotional investment in this topic. The question that always comes up in these discussions is "how the hell else do we stop this crazy practice without criminalizing it?" And the answer that always comes to my mind is, "imagine it being done to your daughter." The pure and unadulterated revulsion that we have as a culture towards the harming of innocent infants somehow has a big ass blind spot with re…
/r/MensRights17/12/13 06:17 PM
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I'm thinking Monty Python-esque Black Knight: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKhEw7nD9C4 You see, where the White Knight fights in some self-sacrificial way for "women's honor," the Black Knight fights for his own honor, usually defined as his ability to put down other men. Sure, women are there in the background, as he does his put-downs publicly, but many of these anti-male closet traditionalists have no clear female gaze in their mindset. Fighting men is why they are there--to champion by in…
/r/MensRights17/12/13 06:06 PM
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Jeez--what is this, Brave New World? "Sorry, you're a first-level, when you clearly belong at the third level. Go down to level B-18 for reprogramming and medication." Have the AskFeminists never heard of honest open communication?
/r/MensRights17/12/13 05:45 PM
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"Complaining about behavior" is the first step towards criminalizing masculinity; if a female teacher attempted to teach her female students "etiquette" like wearing dresses and not interrupting boys when they talk, feminists would be out for blood. But as soon as the topic comes to how men can better serve women, everybody applauds and cheers male subservience.
/r/MensRights17/12/13 05:42 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98f3IavuEgQ --Good video describing why the MRM is against ANY infant genital cutting. Type IV of the WHO's designation of criminal female genital mutilation includes: Other: all other harmful procedures to the female genitalia for non-medical purposes, e.g. pricking, piercing, incising, scraping and cauterizing the genital area. In other words, it is considered an international crime to draw one drop of blood or even scrape the genitals of a girl, while it is per…
/r/MensRights17/12/13 05:37 PM
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I wonder if comments from men trying to gain favor from feminists are actually the real problem here. Considering that some of the worst shitposters (such as SRS, AntiMRA, and other radical groups) are actually composed of a majority of male members, while most feminists are much more wishy-washy in their definitions of feminism, of rights, of equality, etc., it makes me think that the most radical and vitriolic comments coming from internet fem-trolls are actually just men hating on other men. …
/r/MensRights17/12/13 05:29 PM
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And the female power fantasy is that being beautiful will gain you adoration, tons of well-fitting clothing, cute boyfriends, and a happy life. The only problem is that any halfway attractive woman can manipulate her way to achieving the above fantasy. Even men who spend years toiling away in gyms can't get the physical attributes of He-Man, let alone the ridiculous powers of the Sword of Grayskull. It's not a "power fantasy" for women; it's a power reality.
/r/MensRights17/12/13 05:17 PM
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You compared a single book to a multi-billion dollar empire, confused power fantasies with objectification, and ignored the large female audience for JRPGs and Survival Horror, where female leads are better established and the male leads break stereotypes too. I think you confused "me" with "Anita Sarkeesian." I'm not the one who made the arguments about objectification, or social signifiers of femininity, or any of this claptrap. You're blaming ME for calling bullshit on Sarkeesian's bullshit t…
/r/MensRights22/11/13 08:01 PM
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Because the reason behind her points is indefensible--she is advocating that society is changed by video games, just the same way that Tipper Gore advocated that violent rap lyrics makes violent kids and violent video games make violent kids. Dozens of studies and decades of primary, secondary, and anecdotal research later, and no conclusive evidence has been found. Why is Sarkeesian rehashing a 20 year old argument? Because she's been reading 20 year old feminist hash. She even plugs into Debor…
/r/MensRights20/11/13 08:02 PM
1

There are a fuckton more people in America than Canada; ten times as many. And the population of Canada is largely based close together at the southern borders and in cities, making higher infrastructure and standards of living easier to accomplish than being spread out over 3000 miles. Take Canada's problems and magnify them both in size and in physical distance ten-fold, add in the responsibility of policing unstable regions all over the world and the potential to destabilize some of the most …
/r/MensRights20/11/13 07:41 PM
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Yes, and the term feminism has no root word, especially not the root "feminine." Just like masculinism has no root word, especially not masculine. But every time I'm thinking about acting "masculine" I'm being a patriarchal shitlord, and every time I tell a woman she is acting feminine I'm insulting her. So words only have meaning when you say they do? Is that it?
/r/MensRights20/11/13 07:29 PM
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If you don't understand how many people would come into this country illegally if we simply gave everyone free money, you don't understand reality. A "basic income" in America is a fortune in poorer countries just south of our border; the only way to stop the mass incursions of new illegal immigrants, we would simply have to become a police state. At least with the prospect of work people have to gauge whether or not they will sneak into the country against their own self-interest. If the choice…
/r/MensRights19/11/13 09:46 PM
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Tragically, a sensible comment. I find that people have no ability to think in an ungendered way about human rights, so as soon as people here "MEN'S rights" they assume that men are trying to take something away from everybody else. They simply can't assume that about any other group--women's rights, minority rights, gay rights, children's rights, voter rights, animal rights, whatever. Only MEN are deemed the group whose status is so secure that they couldn't possibly EVER have valid concerns, …
/r/MensRights14/11/13 05:18 PM
1

Jeez--are high-powered intellectual women just overgrown children these days? When did this become an acceptable behavior? It's not like Louise Silberling is the first woman to do this, either. WTF, feminists? Don't you have any control over these histrionic narcissists?
/r/MensRights14/11/13 04:52 PM
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Obvious troll is obvious.
/r/MensRights14/11/13 04:32 PM
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This sad state of affairs is the end result of the constant class-warfare victimology propaganda that passes for "learning" on college campuses today. Instead of being taught to think for themselves, students are being taught to categorize people by privilege and threat level; separate students into oppressors and Others; and "fight the" _______ (insert whichever cause or crusade will allow for Two Minutes' Hate). Instead of being sedate institutions of clear-headed philosophers, colleges and un…
/r/MensRights13/11/13 04:53 AM
2

Be it resolved, women are poopy-heads with cooties. It staggers me just how infantile feminists have made modern discourse. Like creationists, conspiracy theorists, and tea partiers, feminists have boiled down complex and contradictory information and ideas into a black-and-white slugfest of Super Awesome Fun People against Big Bad Meanie Heads. Even looking at the title of the resolution--"are men obsolete..." It's like someone was high when they thought of the debate resolution and neglected t…
/r/MensRights10/11/13 04:14 PM
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That's basically how feminist "scholars" have made their careers--injecting (sometimes they even use that term) feminism into any and every topic, whether it makes sense or not. Literally any topic you can think of, feminists have tried to stick their brand name on it, especially in the guise of "queer studies" or "gender studies," which is basically feminism but with whole new victim minority "subaltern" or "Other" populations the mainly straight white feminists can exploit for their own academ…
/r/MensRights10/11/13 03:33 PM
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That does suck, but in Cenk's defense: Regarding the Armenian Genocide articles, Ana Kasparian stated in 2010 that "people change their political opinions all the time."[23] and that Uygur has acknowledged that massacres preceded an Armenian diaspora. Not to mention the fact that Republicanism sort of destroys the moral compass of everyone involved in it, such that they are readily capable of denying obvious facts and evidence. I myself was much more conservative when I was younger, like Cenk--Y…
/r/MensRights08/11/13 04:56 PM
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If you have evidence, throw it out there; but you should know that Ana is Armenian, so I doubt she would agree to work for someone who trashed her own people's massacre.
/r/MensRights08/11/13 04:40 PM
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Yes--we should only hold up as role models people who do terrible, horrific things with their bodies, like coal miners who get black lung just to dig up our fuel sources, or athletes whose bodies no longer function properly because they've trained them to destruction for our entertainment, or firefighters who burn themselves alive trying to put out our mistakes. Because clearly, degrading and horrible things are only disgusting when they're done with genitals, right?
/r/MensRights08/11/13 04:34 PM
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http://exposingfeminism.wordpress.com/shaming-tactics/ Code Red, Code Blue. You're essentially telling people in a forum devoted to expressing ideas, opinions, and news that they shouldn't be expressing ideas, opinions, or news... unless they fucking do something about it. Do you understand how chilling that is on discourse? Like if you went into a rape survivors' forum and said, "jeez, what's with all this whining and talking about feelings--why don't you just do something about your problems?"…
/r/MensRights07/11/13 05:16 PM
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Feminists need a ton of role models, because they've taken to believing that there are no such things as role models and everybody is a different special snowflake, meaning they're all running around with no sense of scale or judgment about their own lives; no leaders, no visionaries, no vision. Just blind momentum. Don't believe me? Ask a feminist to define feminism, and watch the squirming and equivocating.
/r/MensRights07/11/13 05:01 PM
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DaNiceguy is not so nice. Did you even watch the video? She said she wanted to get into more extreme sex, and used porn as a vehicle to do that safely and pragmatically. And seriously--if you could get paid money to do what you were going to do on your own anyway, why wouldn't you?
/r/MensRights07/11/13 04:59 PM
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If you really want a harsh poster campaign, show pictures of all the implements of routine male infant circumcision with a big catchy headline of "Female Genital Mutilation is Wrong." See how many feminists come out against the tools of genital mutilation when they don't know they are used on boys.
/r/MensRights25/10/13 03:22 AM
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No no--American masculinity; because everybody knows we men are patriarchal oppressors both in politics and in the bedroom. The government shutdown? Men's fault. Rising unemployment rates? Men. War machine still at full blast? Men. We're at fault for everything in this country, we might as well be at fault for anything else conveniently placed.
/r/MensRights10/10/13 04:01 PM
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I love how every time I see that line performed onstage, the actor goes out of her way to say "IF it was rape, it was a GOOD rape." to glorious cheers from the sycophantic audience. From Ensler to 50 Shades of Grey, women love rape and submission/humiliation fantasies. One could even accuse them of... blurring the lines on rape and sexual assault.
/r/MensRights10/10/13 03:54 PM
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Popular or unpopular definitions aside, the facts of the matter are being dodged using empty rhetoric and emotional appeals. The author isn't trying to make us aware of a problem on college campuses; he or she is trying to proselytize a worldview that doesn't even take facts into account. Are college campuses "worse than ever" with regard to rape? That's facts, and facts aren't important; what is important is there's something to blame (rape culture) and someone to follow in hating it. There is …
/r/MensRights08/10/13 05:37 AM
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So many weasel words, not a single fact among them. How many rapes ARE there on Canadian campuses? What are the mitigating factors in lowering that number? What have we done already and is there anything else we can do without simply embracing guilt before innocence standards? This article gets an F.
/r/MensRights08/10/13 12:08 AM
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Power corrupts. So why should we let the 500 or so of the nation's most powerful decide what laws we 300 million must follow? Libertarian philosophy didn't come up with the war on drugs, for example.
/r/MensRights07/10/13 09:58 PM
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It also snacks of traditionalism, with the talk about "roles" that each partner should play, and that we are all just adolescents that need to grow up--and settle into our distinct roles, of course.
/r/MensRights07/10/13 07:16 AM
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Oh, the justice is sweet! ADMITTING they were making everything up, ADMITTING they were being disingenuous! No wonder they didn't want to be recorded discussing their smear tactics and deceptions. They're like republicans!
/r/MensRights07/10/13 07:05 AM
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But the above story is exactly the point; had the cutesy blonde girl been sentenced to 10 years like Genarlow Wilson, there would have been public outcry and the laws would have been changed. By making HER sentence a non-issue, it tacitly supports the system of sentencing which means that we would be less likely to question another, albeit harsher sentence. Maybe because the perpetrator was a scary-looking man, for instance...
/r/MensRights04/10/13 03:37 PM
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Well, let's be fair--most users on reddit in general and MR in particular are horrible circle-jerkers who do nothing but parade around the same old blame-game ideas. But what are we obliged to do about that--nothing? Then we have tacitly approved of their circle-jerking. If you disapprove but still allow your child to run wild, the fault isn't with your child, but you as a parent. We're all seekers after knowledge here, whether good or bad. We're all each others' parents and children, teachers a…
/r/MensRights30/09/13 02:28 PM
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That's your choice then, not any fault of the subreddit. If you had ideas worth promoting, why wouldn't you promote them? Because of some failure of the subreddit? Nope--the subreddit doesn't exist as an autonomous entity you can tell to act a certain way. It's user-generated content, all down the line. If you're unhappy with the type of content but aren't willing to alter that type of content to reflect your ambitions for discourse, that's not the subreddit's fault. It's your fault, and our los…
/r/MensRights30/09/13 02:10 PM
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The argument proceeds from bad premises, namely that there is a power imbalance (proof?), that imbalance favors men (proof?), disfavors women (proof?), is unidirectional based on gender lines (proof?), and cannot be denied (lest one be a "lost cause," which is an emotional appeal). At every point in the construction of the first premise of the argument, the argument is propped up on premises themselves which have not been proven and which no rational person can accept at face value. While that m…
/r/MensRights30/09/13 02:03 PM
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...AND this is a user-generated content subreddit. Op, too many feels? Why not put in some "reals" of your own? New feminism? Why not write your own self.posts or link to articles you think people should know about? It sounds like you're more interested in complaining than actually doing something. In that sense, you're partially right; YOU have a lot in common with feminists. If you really wanted to change the tone of this subreddit, there's a big old SUBMIT POST button right on the right hand …
/r/MensRights30/09/13 01:52 PM
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More and more, I'm seeing the flimsiness of pretenses about men's traditional gender role in articles like these. Just look at the way the men are slipped into the background as "her husband's salary" and there is the "quote-unquote" pressure to provide that literally has men working jobs they hate until they die. But are they important enough to include in the article? Nope--women being unhappy trumps men being socially expected as a gender to die at the job regardless of whether it's a terribl…
/r/MensRights30/09/13 01:39 PM
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As for the decline in post-secondary enrolment, Lepp said there seem to be "economic options" certain young men are pursuing rather than going to college or university. She pointed to the employment boom in British Columbia where it appears male high school graduates with access to fairly well-paying jobs in the construction industry, for example, would pursue that line of work rather than accumulate student debt. "There is kind of a rationale for this that isn't just simply that boys are fallin…
/r/MensRights30/09/13 01:19 PM
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Came here to post this--frankly, if you're a man trying to express yourself publicly in today's world, you're already starting behind.
/r/MensRights28/09/13 09:03 PM
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Ironically, these histrionic ban-happy feminists are making MRAs' point for them--that feminism is so out of touch with the modern world that they can't even understand song lyrics that support feminist teachings. It's hilarious, if a bit sad, that Thicke has become the battleground for this sort of nonsense.
/r/MensRights26/09/13 03:39 AM
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Well, that was hilarious. Comparing Sarkeesian to Rosa Parks (in any context whatsoever--Parks wasn't paid $160,000 to sit at the front of the bus) Comparing criticism of Sarkeesian and Internet trolling to SEGREGATION Comparing Sarkeesian's videos to Silent Spring and other works of serious scientific and social investigation (comparing her to Steinem is probably the most accurate--how dare men objectify beautiful women! We should only objectify average or ugly women!) Making the assumption tha…
/r/MensRights25/09/13 03:37 PM
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I always hate it when statements like that are used to cover up asshole statements; it's more passive-aggressive bullshit that needs to be shut down as soon as it is uttered. My favorite rejoinder: "You don't sound sorry."
/r/MensRights25/09/13 12:31 AM
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Man--that guy was just dripping in patriarchy. Being tied up and whipped by the plaintiff in a civil suit is patriarchal enough, but she's also his wife!? Why, he's abusing her by not relenting soon enough. The world surely was a patriarchal place back then.
/r/MensRights25/09/13 12:29 AM
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And slut-shaming. It boggles my mind how blind feminists are to how much women hate other women's sexuality. Any time I've been with female friends of mine talking about mutual acquaintances, there is literally nothing else on their minds but spreading gossip, talking smack, and dissing the other woman in hilariously passive-aggressive ways. And if a man were to say that crap, anybody including me would think he was a straight-up misogynist. Frankly, I think women need to learn some damn manners…
/r/MensRights25/09/13 12:22 AM
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I thought I already made a post about not directly linking sites known for clickbait troll articles. Feministing, seriously? Screenshot, text post, anything, but please let's not fund more crap from FEMINISTING by directly linking and giving them page views.
/r/MensRights25/09/13 12:08 AM
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Wait--what function on Google Maps allows you to search "safest route", "no dark alleys," or "well-populated areas"? And unless you're going out at 2 in the morning when most crime is occurring, why would you need any of this information? Double facepalm for putting "kreeptonite" in the backpack. Good job fumbling open your entire pack and looking for pepper spray as someone jumps you. Or even worse, good for you to remember to pack materials to assault and use chemical deterrents on anybody who…
/r/MensRights24/09/13 01:19 AM
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The great part about that graph is how dramatically crime rates have fallen, and how histrionic feminists look when they dramatically proclaim that the situation is worse than ever for women, and that rape culture is at an all-time high, and women are less safe than ever. Just keep on throwing up that graph, KnowsAboutMath.
/r/MensRights24/09/13 01:13 AM
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Legal paternal surrender is an option, but men are humans too; they feel compassion towards their offspring just like females of the species, and they have just as much of a desire to procreate. I personally believe that RISUG or another reliable form of male birth control is the best answer for people in long-term monogamous relationships, but monogamy is an ideal and people are self-interested bastards. More than likely, relationships and condoms will have to be intertwined for the foreseeable…
/r/MensRights24/09/13 12:45 AM
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Like I said, I don't think you're saying anything wrong; but I do think that you're not taking into account the variety of sexual trust and responsibility in relationships. Sure, if you're shagging new partners every week, you should probably have a condom ready every time; but if you've been with the same partner for several years, even though neither of you wants a child and your partner takes birth control, why is it still the onus of the man to wrap up his genitals in latex before getting sq…
/r/MensRights24/09/13 12:37 AM
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Maybe you should do a google search before you call bullshit. Girls enter puberty on average 2 years earlier than boys, and their bodies are physiologically mature earlier as well: http://www.medicinenet.com/puberty/article.htm This initial bump in time sometimes results in very long lags between emotional maturity in men vs. in women: http://www.medicaldaily.com/men-mature-after-women-11-years-after-be-exact-british-study-reveals-246716 Magnetic resonance imaging (MRI) studies have made it poss…
/r/MensRights23/09/13 12:36 AM
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A woman doesn't get pregnant by herself, afterall. No, but she does stay pregnant by herself. But that's picking nits... I'm possibly going to get a lot of hate for this, but I'm going ahead and saying it anyway: condoms suck. There's a reason why women don't like the female condom--it's ungainly, takes away attention from sex in order to put it in, and reduces the woman's sensation. Men feel the exact same way about condoms, but we're just supposed to suck it up and deal. I'm getting older, and…
/r/MensRights23/09/13 12:22 AM
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Shit--I haven't been 25 for over a decade. Granted, I don't think I've grown much since 25... well, really 30. But I have had a lot of close calls and dodged bullets, so I guess that counts for something. On the whole, though, I would imagine that the 18-25 slot accounts for when men have their most active period of self-identification; unlike girls, who mature several years earlier than boys and who largely have matured physically and emotionally by age 18-21, young men can still be undergoing …
/r/MensRights23/09/13 12:10 AM
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I would have used a more obvious, less salacious turn of phrase--"how about you be a good little girl and make me a sammich?" Playing both on the "women's place in the kitchen" trope and using language that flows better than a double descriptor with no comma in between. But that's just picking nits.
/r/MensRights21/09/13 11:44 PM
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I said nothing about you (unless you're the author of C&H, in which case, don't make men's issues look bad by associating them with sexist remarks, please!), and I am not saying people should not find the above comic humorous. I am simply saying that C&H does not "get it right" here, as the OP presents it. If the C&H position were "right" in regards to men's issues, then we would of course have to equate men's freedom not to be beasts of burden for their gender identity with women being forced t…
/r/MensRights21/09/13 11:33 PM
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Just because one is using humor doesn't excuse stupidity. C&H have managed to adroitly discuss very complex topics before using humor, so it's a missed opportunity for them to drop the ball here, or I should say, rise to the level of their detractors.
/r/MensRights21/09/13 06:18 PM
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Actually, it is a bad argument--if something helps you and hurts you in equal measure, it is a neutral force and nothing to be fought against; if it helps you and hurts someone else in equal measure, you yourself are who needs to be fought against. If it does not help you, but instead hurts you, and cannot with any reliability be said to help anyone like you who is not already benefitting from some other privilege or advantage, it cannot be said to be systemic. Patriarchy theory fails to make it…
/r/MensRights21/09/13 06:07 PM
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I would disagree--C&H makes the attempt to show that "sexism goes both ways" while still making what the guy says more objectionable than what the gal says. Sexism isn't just extreme behavior in demanding traditional roles, it's a fundamental lack of awareness of the negative consequences of those traditional roles. A better way to frame the issue rather than a snarky "suck my dick" comeback would be to point out the double-bind of patriarchy theory in this instance--would the guy be more patria…
/r/MensRights21/09/13 05:54 PM
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Downvoted because of snarky sarcastic attitude which covers up some actual problems in thinking, such as the fact that as many men are raped as women, and that the majority of rapes of both men and women happen in prison. When you have facts on your side, resorting to snarky asides and comedic posturing is not necessary.
/r/MensRights21/09/13 02:39 PM
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But aren't men benefitting from the patriarchy? Where's our slice of the patriarchy pie here? Shouldn't the government, a patriarchal institution run by men, have simply left those wimminz to be barefoot and pregnant after the recession and given 100% of the recovery money to support traditionally male occupations, rather than only 30%? It's... it's almost as if the patriarchy... doesn't exist. Meanwhile, this article makes it seem as if men only have themselves to blame when they get passed ove…
/r/MensRights21/09/13 02:33 PM
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Wow--these sound bites make the talk seem like a radical deconstruction of gender politicization. Did they record the event? I'd love to watch.
/r/MensRights21/09/13 02:05 PM
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They should design an app to capitalize on /creepshots' infamy--Creepr! Creep your friends! Creep your neighbors! Creep yourself and Re-Creep it back to the Creepr community!
/r/MensRights16/09/13 05:27 AM
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It gives a +5 to sleight of hand against the child subtype, and +5 bluff for everyone to believe your bullshitting.
/r/MensRights16/09/13 02:29 AM
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Understandable--another commenter on here reminded me of our policy of screen capping Jezebel and Gawker sites rather than linking directly to the article. Screen caps would allow everyone to see the article in its original context without rewarding yellow journalism.
/r/MensRights16/09/13 02:18 AM
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I remember now--I'd be fine with a more wide-ranging use of screen capping. Again, I'm not sure if there are legal/fair use issues to it, but when some of our top posts are essentially baiting the MR community by intentionally stirring up controversy, I can't tell whether or not we are engaging with our detractors or being played by them like suckers.
/r/MensRights14/09/13 03:05 PM
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Understandable; it's just for me, seeing these yellow journalists pad their page-views with salacious content that they don't even necessarily believe in themselves is tragic for the state of debate on the internet. When people are rewarded for bad behavior, they will continue doing that bad behavior; a recent post on the Jezebel business model threw this idea into stark relief for me that we could essentially end up financing the destruction of reasoned and disinterested (that is, not backed by…
/r/MensRights14/09/13 08:02 AM
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No, I am saying that my arguments are based upon facts that aren't really questionable. Actually, your arguments are just a series of slippery-slope conditionals that you never even bothered giving evidence for in the first place. "Men are stronger than women." So what? What does that have to do with how people interact on a daily basis? I've asked you FIVE SEPARATE TIMES to explain why this should be at all important to anyone's analysis. No analysis, just bullshit. Maybe next time read what I …
/r/MensRights14/09/13 05:52 AM
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Facts require evidence, arguments don't. What? What? Are you just out-and-out saying that your arguments aren't factually-based? Fine, then--let's just say whatever we want and it'll be totally okay because facts don't matter. Men are better than women because they are powered by unicorn piss. BOOM. Are you challenging any of the facts I listed in my five point summary of my argument? Because if not, I don't really need evidence. Wait--what happened to Facts require evidence, arguments don't. Yo…
/r/MensRights14/09/13 04:26 AM
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I turned it off after that. I have got to stop giving muckraking piss-yellow journalism page views.
/r/MensRights14/09/13 03:28 AM
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I'll start taking you seriously when you provide evidence for even one point you've made. Even creationists try to make their points based on evidence, faulty and specious as that evidence may be. You're just making shit up and pretending it's true. I'm not obliged to believe anything you say without evidence. So put up or shut up.
/r/MensRights13/09/13 05:32 PM
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I tried to frame your argument in the most generous way possible. The mismash of premises, assertions, assumptions, and fallacious conclusions you called an "argument" was something a fifth grader could match. If you'd rather I didn't try to be generous, then it's settled--you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about and you have abused common sense in your desire to push a sexist agenda by illogically connecting biology, evolution, and social status. You want men to rule society becaus…
/r/MensRights12/09/13 10:09 PM
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Once again, I've never denied evolution, even though you clearly keep trying to misrepresent my position as such. But that's not your "argument", such as I've seen it; this is: Premise one: men are stronger due to evolutionary sexual dimorphism Premise two: this evolutionary sexual dimorphism tends to favor certain occupations and behaviors (as generous as I can be, since you've never actually stated this premise openly, just hinted at it like sexism or homophobia) Conclusion, because human biol…
/r/MensRights12/09/13 01:09 PM
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You have brought up a large number of random facts "we can make women as strong as men", yet you haven't really given any justification for your position. That's not "a position"--it's a rebuttal of your "fact" that "men are stronger than women" due to evolution. Men ARE stronger than women... but only because of testosterone. Evolution didn't say "men should have testosterone and women should have estrogen, and therefore that shall make women weak and men strong." Evolution didn't have any more…
/r/MensRights12/09/13 12:04 AM
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Have you provided any evidence for yours? Yes--look back at all the links I've provided in my previous posts. I'm not the one trying to make the assertion here that you're making: Our natures do not entirely determine the outcomes of societies, it is quite possible, especially in unusual sets of circumstances, to go against them. That doesn't mean we aren't better suited to the natural roles. It's not my responsibility to disprove that we are better suited to natural roles, it's your responsibil…
/r/MensRights11/09/13 10:41 PM
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"Feminist law"... is not a real thing.
/r/MensRights11/09/13 04:45 AM
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We aren't talking about psychology at all here. What I am saying is that because in the past we did not live in an equal society men and women evolved to suit their roles in that prehistoric society, and therefore men and women are different. Because men and women are different we can't just try to force them to be the same in all respects, and having each sex have different roles in the present may in fact be what works best for people. Yeah... not psychological at all! Just deterministic. You …
/r/MensRights11/09/13 04:29 AM
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I understand--but I'm also deeply mistrustful of the motives of women, even the women that I date, because they are on a biological clock and I am not. Any sex I have, therefore, is a potential commitment I may have to make. I can't prove or demand or even legally require that my partner is on birth control, and condoms can break. Sex is wonderful, but men have no rights to their own sexual autonomy, so it's a legally risky action in any circumstance for men. By comparison, women not only have t…
/r/MensRights10/09/13 10:43 PM
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Sorry, I can't hear you talking over the mountain of evidence you're not providing for evo-psych. So are you denying that humans evolved? Or that humans evolution shaped our behavior and physiology, as occurred for every other animal? If you are denying either of these things you are on the same ground as creationists. Um... are you deaf? "Evo-psych," as in evolutionary psychology. Since when did questioning evo-psych mean I'm a creationist? Yes, evolution is not intentional. However, species ev…
/r/MensRights10/09/13 10:35 PM
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Already did. You didn't elucidate anywhere, except once with me: Think about it. If we knew how a situation in which a drunk adult came to be rubbing themselves against a 13 year old, maybe such situations could be avoided? All the other times, you were grousing about how wildly disproportionately badly you were being treated, and how that must be because everybody on here is an irrational ignoramus. And you say "clusterfuck" a lot, which I guess pretty much sums up what you think of /MensRights…
/r/MensRights10/09/13 03:44 AM
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Hey--I'm still waiting for all those "useful" ways that context would have helped the OP's post. You've had plenty of time to spit them out, but instead you have insulted others and made yourself out to be a martyr. Care to actually support your own position for once?
/r/MensRights10/09/13 03:11 AM
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More often there are men trying to live the MGTOW lifestyle, abstaining from sex entirely.
/r/MensRights10/09/13 03:09 AM
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Err, no--Emmett Till was murdered for wolf-whistling at a white woman, even though he was barely 14 years old and his "victim", Carolyn Bryant, was 21. Black male sexuality was seen as one of the primary reasons for the formation of the KKK, so as to protect the "virtue" of white women from the threat of horribly rapacious mandingoes. It should also be pointed out that British colonials had a similar view of Indians, especially the darker-complected southern Indian populations. Native Indians we…
/r/MensRights10/09/13 03:05 AM
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If you don't know anything about what you are talking about just don't say anything next time. Sorry, I can't hear you talking over the mountain of evidence you're not providing for evo-psych. I've already responded to you numerous times, and you've had the opportunity to school me at length as much as you think I need schooling on what I'm supposed to "know." Thus far, I'm not impressed. So you are saying men's greater strength is an unintended consequence of evolution that is not adaptive at a…
/r/MensRights10/09/13 02:53 AM
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I know gaslighting is Reddit's new favourite term to use and abuse, but it doesn't apply. You already know I consider context to be useful in ways other than altering perspective/shifting blame (and if you weren't trying so hard to argue, I think you'd agree that it can be). And this itself is gaslighting--you've enumerated NO possible "useful" ways that context could have been used to further understand the OP's video, and you even rejected my compromise of using a neutral term, "background", t…
/r/MensRights10/09/13 02:25 AM
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Advocacy forums are always circle jerks and echo chambers--you're a fool to think otherwise. But that doesn't mean that the people circlejerking are wrong, or that the ideas being echoed aren't sound. You can't go into a forum where emotions are high and the evidence is clear that the very heart of the issues the forum brings up are at the fore and then gaslight by telling everyone to calm down and make unnecessary pleas for context and THEN say nobody is advocating the precise way you want them…
/r/MensRights10/09/13 01:08 AM
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That would be laudable, if the accusations, arrests, and questionings were made privately so that the media was not allowed to make speculations on the investigations taking place. But these men are being publicly questioned in relation to Yewtree, then released without charges so that public media opinion can harass them and slander them. http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22282769 Freddie Starr has not been charged with a crime, and the above article doesn't care--they'll happily put Starr right in th…
/r/MensRights09/09/13 10:08 PM
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And inoculation saves millions of lives and has eradicated dozens of previously lethal illnesses. Circumcision doesn't save a single life that condom use wouldn't also save, and circumcision only works as a potential preventative measure when condoms are NOT used, vastly increasing the risk of unintended pregnancy and STIs in women. So where exactly is all this curative benefit?
/r/MensRights09/09/13 09:55 PM
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Agreed, but you're sidestepping the issue. In contrast to you, who are forcing a single-minded interpretation of the issue that doesn't fit with the facts. Would you or would not circumcise your male child in a high risk population, since it provides a very tangible benefit for him? Studies have not proven this--they have only shown a broad correlation, and only that in discontinued studies which may have had faulty data skewing the results; and also because we would already know about circumcis…
/r/MensRights09/09/13 07:34 AM
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Again, that's the reason why those studies were cancelled before they were finished--50% reduction to the MEN, but absolutely no protection to the WOMEN, meaning that every possible sexual act where a protective benefit might be incurred also entails a greater risk for the woman involved; at least with condom use BOTH partners benefit equally EVERY time they use one. The researchers speculated when they halted the study that circumcision would be seen as a magic bullet, and since there is alread…
/r/MensRights09/09/13 07:12 AM
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I would say that circumcision is still not warranted in high-risk populations, because it has the effect of replacing condoms which means absolutely NO protection for the receiving partner from either HIV or other STIs, and the possibility of pregnancy in women. The fact of the matter is that the negligible benefits (to only one partner) are sorely outweighed by the negative impact on safe-sex practices in high-risk areas. Circumcisions are only palliative--pretending to be a benefit, while not …
/r/MensRights09/09/13 06:55 AM
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Lots of terrible things were acceptable for centuries. Should they be acceptable now? Meanwhile, babies are babies, whether boy or girl; why should one baby have internationally-recognized legal protections against any harm done against its genitals, while the other has NONE? What possible difference can you point out between infant A and infant B that doesn't rely on a reductive Men are From Mars, Women Are From Venus dichotomy? And what would those differences have to be such that cutting on i…
/r/MensRights09/09/13 06:42 AM
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I'm simply saying that the constant comparison and the eventual "female genital mutilation isn't even that big of a deal" arguments are tired and do not help the cause. I think constant comparisons are absolutely essential (because people by their actions seem to believe that there is a substantive, perhaps even species-level difference between baby boys and baby girls, such that one can be fucked with and the other can't), but I never said that FGM isn't a big deal. In fact, I'd argue that MRAs…
/r/MensRights09/09/13 06:38 AM
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There is anesthetic used in modern day circumcision. And the child experiences very little, if any pain. My son was born last week and was circumcised and he slept through the procedure. Since then he hasn't made any notion of being in any discomfort Abuse is abuse, whether you remember it or not. Would you cut off pieces of your daughter's genitals, provided you had anesthetic? Why do you even have the RIGHT to have your son's genitals altered to your own specifications? Where is his right to h…
/r/MensRights09/09/13 06:29 AM
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Buddy, I've already covered your opinion in another post: http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs241/en/ Under procedures, see Type IV: Other: all other harmful procedures to the female genitalia for non-medical purposes, e.g. pricking, piercing, incising, scraping and cauterizing the genital area. As in, it is illegal to draw one drop of blood from a girl's genitals, to even scrape or prick the genitals of a girl against her will. So why is it legal to cut off whole pieces of boys' genital…
/r/MensRights09/09/13 06:17 AM
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But I think the better point is that there is NO REASON to compare FGM to MGM. Is this some sort of contest? Which is worse? Or, as it often comes off, "well if you are going to circumcise our boys, then FGM is okay!" That's the exact opposite of the point I was trying to make--NO, I'm not trying to win at the Oppression Olympics, because that's what people do when they say "there is NO REASON to compare FGM to MGM," because there clearly is--Type IV! The very existence of a standard where any h…
/r/MensRights09/09/13 05:56 AM
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No no--the moral hazard exists whether you want it to or not. Once you take away consequences for a particular action, you get more extreme expressions of that action. Take away the legal consequences for stealing, you get more theft; sure, individuals may take a moral stance not to steal, but without the negative consequences for stealing, there's no reason NOT to steal. You want a world without punishments; by extension, such would be a world with nothing but punishments, because any moral sta…
/r/MensRights09/09/13 05:46 AM
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There's a tenth of a percentage point difference between infant boys with foreskins getting more UTIs than circumcised boys, but that's more than overbalanced by the infections, blood clots, botched operations, scar tissue, and even DEATHS caused by circumcision than the supposed "cure." Hell--girls get more UTIs than boys, and nobody advocates cutting off girls' labia as a hygienic measure. The only other "hygiene" issue is cleaning under the foreskin, which is both unnecessary prior to puberty…
/r/MensRights09/09/13 05:31 AM
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From a previous comment: http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs241/en/ Under procedures, see Type IV: Other: all other harmful procedures to the female genitalia for non-medical purposes, e.g. pricking, piercing, incising, scraping and cauterizing the genital area. As in, it is illegal to draw one drop of blood from a girl's genitals, to even scrape or prick the genitals of a girl against her will. So why is it legal to cut off whole pieces of boys' genitals?
/r/MensRights09/09/13 05:24 AM
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As I said in a previous comment: http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs241/en/ Under procedures, see Type IV: Other: all other harmful procedures to the female genitalia for non-medical purposes, e.g. pricking, piercing, incising, scraping and cauterizing the genital area. As in, it is illegal to draw one drop of blood from a girl's genitals, to even scrape or prick the genitals of a girl against her will. So why is it legal to cut off whole pieces of boys' genitals? There's a large differ…
/r/MensRights09/09/13 05:21 AM
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SRS probably; anything for the lulz.
/r/MensRights09/09/13 05:17 AM
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Late at night, lots of posts with the same statements? Either SRS or ManhoodAcademy. :)
/r/MensRights09/09/13 05:16 AM
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Your idea is that you should be able to control other people's behavior with law enforcement. You wish to control others, and that I am diametrically opposed to. If you think you're right, convince others, but the vengeance in your tone, and your willingness to tap Law Enforcement to enforce your ideology... You're lost. If you had a good argument, you wouldn't need other men to enforce what you think should happen. So you're saying that we just shouldn't enforce any laws? Because laws against c…
/r/MensRights09/09/13 05:14 AM
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Quite the opposite, as most upvote/downvote results in the comments right now are on your side of the fence, but you're missing a big part of the picture here: Why the fuck should men or women who claim to be Men's Rights Activists support routine infant circumcision, an unnecessary and risky operation that by its very nature INFANT BOYS DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT TO REFUSE? Are you saying we shouldn't even refuse on their behalf, say that circumcisers should have to wait until the boys themselves com…
/r/MensRights09/09/13 05:09 AM
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Little girls get shit in the folds of their vaginas, as Louis CK has hilariously pointed out. Yet you never see doctors at senate hearings proclaiming that we should cut off pieces of their labia to "prevent infections." So why the fuck is it okay to make that argument for boys?
/r/MensRights09/09/13 05:03 AM
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Well, fuck 'em! Nobody would dare advocate cutting on baby girls' genitals just because some stupid guys might think adult women's genitals look "gross." If the "cultural norm" was jumping off a cliff would you jump off a cliff too? Or even worse, listening to Nickelback?
/r/MensRights09/09/13 04:57 AM
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Speak my peace? Fine--people who support circumcision should have to have their dicks cut on a second time, no anesthetic, just like the first time they had it done. They can't wimp out, can't say stop, can't cry or wail like little cowards, like YOU. Then, once they've ACTUALLY felt what a circumcision is like, THEN AND ONLY THEN can they talk about promoting circumcision. And as for everyone else, outlaw routine infant circumcision. Make the legal age limit for circumcision 15 years old; then …
/r/MensRights09/09/13 04:53 AM
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Why shouldn't you be circumcised? Because you're cutting off part of your dick. Take out your dick and ask how much flesh you're willing to remove right now, no anesthetic; not much, right? Well, you don't get a choice. It's happening, and if you struggle, you'll be strapped to a table so you can't move while your dick gets cut on. That's what happens when you get circumcised. Just because you don't remember it doesn't mean it wasn't abuse. Hell, you were a baby, so one would hope it would count…
/r/MensRights09/09/13 04:46 AM

All up in this thread: people who love their circumcisions and downvotes to anybody against routine infant circumcision. Because screw your rights when you're a baby--your parents can cut whatever they like off of you.
/r/MensRights09/09/13 04:39 AM
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Abuse is abuse, whether you remember it or not. Saying otherwise is like saying to a judge "It wasn't rape because my victim was unconscious." Your mental state had nothing to do with the fact that doctors willfully strapped you down and cut off pieces of your dick without anesthetic. If it would be wrong to do to you today, why was it not wrong back then?
/r/MensRights09/09/13 04:36 AM
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http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs241/en/ Under procedures, see Type IV: Other: all other harmful procedures to the female genitalia for non-medical purposes, e.g. pricking, piercing, incising, scraping and cauterizing the genital area. As in, it is illegal to draw one drop of blood from a girl's genitals, to even scrape or prick the genitals of a girl against her will. So why is it legal to cut off whole pieces of boys' genitals?
/r/MensRights09/09/13 04:33 AM

Abuse is abuse, whether you remember it or not. Or do you think that you'd be perfectly fine with being strapped down and circumcised today, no anasthetic? I mean, saying "it wasn't abuse because I can't remember it" is like saying "It wasn't rape because my victim was unconscious." Dude--you had pieces of your dick cut off for no good reason. How is that okay?
/r/MensRights09/09/13 04:29 AM
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False--and by the way, you don't support freedom of speech, you support the tyranny of the minority, oligarchy by ideological extremism. Freedom of speech of necessity entails a free market of ideas, where people are free to associate themselves with an idea or refuse to associate themselves with an idea. What you propose is for people to be able to voluntarily dissociate the consequences for their own speech from their own person, in much the same way as lending banks were able to "gamble" with…
/r/MensRights09/09/13 04:21 AM
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Your math doesn't add up---there are at least 1.6 billion Muslims, 95% of which are circumcised. Add to that circumcision practiced elsewhere throughout the world, much of it with little or no religious connotation, and you have around 30% of the world's male population being circumcised, not 10-15% as you propose. But even if only one in a million baby boys were being cut on for no purpose other than because we like to see baby boys being cut on, is that an excuse? Is ANY genital cutting okay? …
/r/MensRights09/09/13 04:00 AM
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Men's "greater strength" is as related to evolution as men's nipples. Why do men have nipples, you ask? Because women need nipples, and the undifferentiated fetus prior to the introduction of sex-selective hormones has all the building blocks for both sets of body parts, male and female. Men have a need for nipples in the way that women have a need for testosterone, that is, as part of the building blocks for life. Men's testosterone affects musculature and body structure, to be sure, but not in…
/r/MensRights09/09/13 03:51 AM
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So parents dont know what is best for their child? Circumcision is an unnecessary and risky medical procedure; babies get infections, have blood clots, get septic, and even DIE due to circumcision. And circumcision is done without anasthetic, while the child doesn't even have bowel or bladder control, and before the glans separates from the foreskin, maximizing both the physical trauma of circumcision, the torturous pain inflicted on the INFANT child, and the possibility of infection due to that…
/r/MensRights09/09/13 03:41 AM
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Exactly--abuse is abuse, even if it's done when you are too young to understand what's happening to you.
/r/MensRights09/09/13 03:32 AM
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I mean fuck, I give you two contexts and then I literally said the words "equally at fault in both". How in the shit do you manage to misconstrue that? I've misconstrued nothing; you've already said that the woman is at fault no matter what context could have been brought up, so your request for context either meant absolutely nothing (and I should point out that if you really wanted background, you could have just googled around to see if any news outlets had covered the story already), or you …
/r/MensRights09/09/13 03:29 AM
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The Neolithic Revolution offered humans an unprecedented chance at being stable and relatively successful groups compared to the small nomadic groups that had previously been the norm. Since nomadic tribes were usually successful based on their ability to follow game (and that wasn't easy), life was pretty uniformly harsh and birth rates were low because women had to work just as much as men did. Trying to haul gear and tend to pack animals while 8 months pregnant and on the move was not helpful…
/r/MensRights09/09/13 03:22 AM
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He's not raising a valid point. Evo-psych justifications of hardwired gender are bullshit. 30,000 years ago, we were all nomads and had almost no divisions of labor or social status due to gender. We have had our current system of socially differentiated gender roles for only certain portions of the population for less than 500 years (poor peasants were pretty uniformly treated from a legal standpoint). And anybody who says biology = destiny must never have heard of the vast majority of biologic…
/r/MensRights09/09/13 02:52 AM
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What I personally think is immaterial--if you advocate ethnic cleansing, you abdicate your right to the protections of free speech. If you advocate mass murder, it is both legal and moral to come down on your ass like a ton of bricks with both legal and moral condemnation. In a society built on laws and morals, it is not ethical to advocate breaking those laws or violating those morals unless it serves a higher morality. That's because people can use proxies to do illegal and immoral things when…
/r/MensRights09/09/13 02:45 AM
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The difference is that Big Red was advocating bs armchair gender studies; Femitheist was advocating violence. Not doxxing her may have been the worse move, if it later comes out that she takes matters into her own hands a la Valerie Solanas. If there weren't an actual precedent for actual acts of violence among those who preach violence, maybe you'd have a stronger case. But even then, should we protect the anonymity of people who promote ethnic cleansing, or KKK members, or those who preach the…
/r/MensRights09/09/13 01:45 AM
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What we witnessed could be in the context of someone who was being loud and garish or in the context of someone who was quietly minding their own business. She can be equally at fault in both, but they're still contexts. "She" was the one committing the obvious crime of sexual assault. Whether or not it was provoked in any way is immaterial; retribution is not a factor in whether or not one has committed a crime. If someone hits you, and you hit them back, BOTH of you have committed a crime. The…
/r/MensRights09/09/13 01:40 AM
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Indeed--any supposed benefits of circumcision against HIV are null and void for women, and rendered moot through condom use.
/r/MensRights09/09/13 01:35 AM

I guarantee you it would have been much more of an issue for you if it had been done on you at 8 years old, not 8 days old. Does child abuse no longer count if the child can't remember it? Because I guaran-damn-tee you would have remembered being held down and having your penis cut on at age 8. Involuntary routine infant circumcision is wrong--it is genital cutting done without the patient's consent purely for the desires of the parents.
/r/MensRights09/09/13 01:30 AM

YOU being happy with having an unnecessary medical procedure done on you without your consent as an infant is one thing; but we're not talking about YOU and your happiness with your own penile body modification. We're talking about the legalized genital cutting of males, and ONLY males, without their consent. Would you have been similarly happy with your circumcision if your parents had held you down at age 15 and done it without your consent? No. So the most you can be happy about is that they …
/r/MensRights09/09/13 01:27 AM
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You're right about one thing though. I was using the real-world definition of context, not the internet one. What we witnessed could be in the context of someone who was being loud and garish or in the context of someone who was quietly minding their own business. She can be equally at fault in both, but they're still contexts. You're right about one thing though. I was using the real-world definition of context, not the internet one. What we witnessed could be in the context of someone who was …
/r/MensRights09/09/13 01:20 AM
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The question you asked previously is pointless, because it makes the false (and quite bizarre) assumption that a desire for context is a desire to excuse criminal behaviour. I didn't make any assumption--you actually DID try to excuse the criminal behavior: and she decided to show him up? Just because you're not willing to see that what you said was trying to excuse the behavior doesn't mean it isn't there, it just means you're being either purposefully or blindly ignorant. Everyone on here has …
/r/MensRights08/09/13 11:19 PM
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I'm going to disagree with your disagreement, on the evidence of your response. Look at all the highlighted moments where you elide women's agency in favor of some nebulous overall societal pressure: There are definitely standards, however I feel the difference between men and women is that the former are more inclined to negotiating (for lack of a better word). I believe this is due to the idea of "soul mates", a fantasy that is fed to specifically women from a very young age. The idea that wom…
/r/MensRights08/09/13 11:06 PM
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Please elucidate exactly where I implied the context would change anything. Okay: I wish these videos would show context. I mean, this went too far and it looked like it could've gone even further, but what lead up to this point? Did she randomly come up and start rubbing herself against him, or was he shouting across the bus how hard he'd fuck her and she decided to show him up? Does it matter whether or not a 13 year old girl shouts random things at an adult before he starts ripping her clothe…
/r/MensRights08/09/13 10:37 PM
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Please elucidate exactly what sort of context would change the aggressive, illegal nature of this video. Not "maybe he wanted it" or "it could have been in good fun." Adults don't get to "have fun" by forcibly stripping preteens naked on the train. That's not legal.
/r/MensRights08/09/13 03:44 AM
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The kid in question looks 13, maybe 14. Are you going to be so concerned about "context" when a drunk adult man is ripping at the clothes of a 13 year old girl and grinding on her while everybody laughs at how hilarious it is rather than helping her?
/r/MensRights08/09/13 12:58 AM
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And don't forget that Type IV of illegal FGM includes any harmful procedure performed on women's genitals without their consent--"pricking, piercing, incising, scraping and cauterization," according to the WHO. In other words, it is illegal to draw one drop of blood, to even scrape or nick the genitals of girls, but it is perfectly acceptable to cut off whole pieces of boys' genitals. By the WHO's own definition, circumcision ought to be genital mutilation... except for the fact that it's perfor…
/r/MensRights07/09/13 01:50 PM
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I personally have no problem with the guy--he's opted out of the dating scheme in an extreme way, but perhaps paradoxically less extreme than MGTOWs who simply tough it out being alone. Guys have feelings just like gals, so it's stupid to imagine that they would be any less heartbroken over having to remain single because they had been disillusioned by the dating scene like women. One caveat, though--women are far less likely to be rejected for their advances than men. The reason that men are re…
/r/MensRights07/09/13 01:41 PM
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That's an extrinsic value, i.e., reproductive capacity, that has nothing to do necessarily with a man's own self-worth. Implicitly, you're saying that men who can't or don't have children are worth less than everyone else; that's silly to us, because we don't believe that a person's worth begins and ends with reproduction. Einstein wasn't famous for having kids; any trailer park trash can squeeze out a whole litter of rug rats and contribute nothing but debt and economic burdens on society at la…
/r/MensRights07/09/13 04:59 AM
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So basically, you want men to be walking wallets? Because that's what happens when men have to spend all their time taking care of women who don't have to work for their own supper. Unless you're going to give the Red Pill Full Monty and say that women should be forced to repay their husbands with subservience for paying all the bills. Why not take off your mask and proclaim your outright support of traditional gender roles? Infantilize women a little more, and demand men perpetuate this infanti…
/r/MensRights07/09/13 03:53 AM
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Fallacy: No True MRA
/r/MensRights07/09/13 03:48 AM
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Just want to add in that it's perfectly acceptable to shove responsibility for dealing with unproductive workers off on others through productivity firms; they are often independent employee evaluation groups that get hired on to manage worker output and give external feedback on your employees. If you don't already have a firm that your company uses, suggest one to your supervisors as a method of objectively analyzing worker productivity to improve performance. You'll get praise for being forwa…
/r/MensRights07/09/13 03:42 AM
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http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PEikGKDVsCc Good Vsauce video on what "creepy" means. I think the video's ideas make more sense and provide a more useful motivation behind calling something "creepy" rather than just "whatever I don't like."
/r/MensRights06/09/13 01:00 PM
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I'm assuming you're thinking of the Jewish slave narrative from the Bible? It's not historically corroborated. The Egyptians wrote down nearly everything having to do with slaves and slave revolts at the time the Jews were historically inhabiting Egypt--they were marginal herdsmen and laborers, nothing more. By contrast, excavations of the build sites around the major pyramids have shown that farmers in the off-season and well-paid day laborers constructed the pyramids. They were well-fed and ho…
/r/MensRights06/09/13 12:48 PM
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That's why I included links, just to be sure I was covering my bases. Statistics aren't my strong suit. But what really bakes my brain is all the concessions I've made to create the 0.01% statistic, when it's accepted that women make up about 10% of rapists, that men make up 40 or even 50% of rape victims, that the majority of all rapes take place in prison, and that most rapists are repeat offenders. Taking into account these other factors, the likelihood that a random man on the subway is a ra…
/r/MensRights06/09/13 04:40 AM
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Punished by law, not burnt as witches in the court of public opinion. That's exactly why Freddie Starr needs to push his libel suit as far as it will go, because Operation Yewtree is trying to ruin his reputation publicly, not prosecute him in closed session. Hell, when that N'Dubz pop star was busted in a drug sting recently, the media was practically gagged from speculating on her guilt or innocence. THAT'S why this is a MR issue--public shaming without conviction = libel/slander.
/r/MensRights05/09/13 01:51 PM
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It's a simple case of A -> B not necessarily implying that B -> A, such that even if it is the case that men commit the majority of or even the entirety of domestic violence (though evidence has shown parity between the genders), it doesn't necessarily follow that just being male proves that one is domestically violent. Sort of like saying that just because the majority of terrorists are Muslim doesn't mean that all or even a majority of Muslims are terrorists. If you blame crime on factors that…
/r/MensRights05/09/13 02:24 AM
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Careful there--you're expressing one of the indicators of intimate partner violence! /s
/r/MensRights05/09/13 02:16 AM
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It's a fair point--thanks for changing my mind about the issue!
/r/MensRights05/09/13 02:03 AM
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http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_in_the_United_States http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_the_United_States http://www.census.gov/prod/cen2010/briefs/c2010br-03.pdf http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_demographics_of_the_United_States Taking the most generous figure possible, 90,000 reported rapes, and assuming that each of those was committed by a different man out of 151,400,000 total possible men, yields a 0.059445% chance that a man has committed rape. Of course, I didn't inclu…
/r/MensRights04/09/13 05:05 PM
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I think you're taking a biased look at the topic--remember that the "work" being done is being number one, winning in your division. Not everybody who plays tennis gets the same amount of prize money, and the winners (if they play the same number of sets in their division) should be entitled to the same amount of prize money if there is nothing different about their performance besides the genders of the participants involved. If we are to be rational humans and expect female competitors to be a…
/r/MensRights04/09/13 04:39 PM
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The vast majority of infanticide are perpetrated by women. Does that mean that infanticide is a "women's issue"? No. Does that mean that women need to "woman up" and take responsibility for their own and their female friends' potential for being child-killers? No. Why shouldn't women constantly wonder if they're about to fly off the handle and kill their own children! Because women retain for themselves the privilege of refusing to be lumped in with psychopaths and scumbags. But when men refuse …
/r/MensRights04/09/13 01:37 PM
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What, so I should ignore sexism when it's not happening in my backyard? Not very neighborly of me.
/r/MensRights02/09/13 10:56 PM
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That's even worse! At least if it was a tumblr feminist or a radfem troll group, we could laugh at the ideologues and say how utterly anti-sex and gender-partisan their ideas are. But as a recruitment video for a university? I sure hope taxpayer money didn't go into this, because its sexism defined! It demonizes male sexuality and infantilizes female sexuality, setting up a gender-war us vs. them dichotomy and pegging men in general (as a gender) responsible for sexual violence and assault. The …
/r/MensRights02/09/13 12:50 PM
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No, not belief--discipline. If I asked a sociologist what sociologists thought about population change from rural to city living in industrialized nations, I wouldn't have to suffer through endless prevarications about "well, my personal definition of population change is..." or "the idea of population change depends on who you talk to..." Those sociologists would, if they are at all knowledgable in their fields, be able to tell me with a relatively evidence-based certainty what is causing city …
/r/MensRights02/09/13 12:38 PM
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I guess it is harder for men to start organizing. Its harder to go out on a limb when you might lose your jobs, whereas women had to fight to be allowed to have jobs in the first place, so I guess the momentum really just followed through from there. You know, I thought you were going to be seeking common ground there for a minute, that you might actually think about what it's like for men. And then you follow it up with Oppression Olympics--"you're worried about your jobs? WOMEN DIDN'T HAVE JOB…
/r/MensRights01/09/13 05:23 PM
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You're treating feminism like it is a single person making a claim. It is not. No, I'm treating feminism as a discipline, and in order to call an ideology a discipline and not just a bunch of random whackos, that discipline needs to have a rigorous logical knowledge-based framework, i.e., theories based (hopefully) on evidence. Feminism is academic; feminist scholars have tenured positions at the highest institutions of learning in the west. Feminism has been an academically rigorous discipline …
/r/MensRights01/09/13 04:56 PM
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Then it's up to you to explain the way femininity as expressed by feminism is NOT toxic, because feminism has already made the claim that masculinity needs to change fundamentally in order to not be patriarchal, i.e., not be toxic. And you can't use the words "equal" or "egalitarian", because you're using a gender-based name, so you're NOT advocating gender-neutral equality.
/r/MensRights01/09/13 02:40 PM
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Respectfully, that's not what I asked--I asked what toxic femininity would look like. We already know what toxic masculinity looks like--anything masculine, anything showing bravery or bravado or braggadocio or machismo or whatever foreign-sounding term feminists can use to Other men acting like men. Our gender is constantly under attack, is under suspicion, is under threat of ostracization or even imprisonment--where masculine men "truly belong", according to the most radical feminists. But fem…
/r/MensRights01/09/13 02:25 PM
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Not only that, slander spoken. Libel is the printed version of defamation.
/r/MensRights01/09/13 02:08 AM
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I've been here for 3 years, and every month somebody new comes on and says "the quality's declining!" And the quality just keeps getting better. It's not the subreddit--it's you.
/r/MensRights01/09/13 02:06 AM
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Thank you for putting up the lyrics so I didn't have to give them money via clicks to watch the video. As usual, feminists are the first to say they aren't anti-sex, but as soon as a man dares to call female sexuality animalistic (which is what the song "Blurred Lines" is about), all that "liberation" gets thrown out the window. It's not okay to objectify women, but it is okay to joke about castrating men? It's not okay to harass women, but it is okay to rhyme "penetration" with "discrimination"…
/r/MensRights01/09/13 01:19 AM
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Being antagonized for being a man is pretty infuriating as well, but not nearly as infuriating as having to "swordfight the fart" as feminists move the goalposts for patriarchy around while all the time demanding more and more time, attention, and money for women's issues while males in society literally fall off the map. It's already been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that men have fallen behind women in every conceivable social metric, but what do we hear as the problem plaguing society? P…
/r/MensRights01/09/13 12:51 AM
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I get emails from them daily with petitions, legislation updates, invitations to marches, and letters to send to my representative. Here, ive asked for even one petition four times and have yet to see one. Maybe that's because feminism is a billion dollar industry with organizations all over the world working 24 hours a day with lobbying arms that reach to the highest levels of government pushing through legislation to cater to feminist interest groups. There are quite literally thousands of loc…
/r/MensRights31/08/13 01:42 PM
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This isn't a case of MRAs denying women's feelings. This is a case of the unmentioned shamer: things girls are made to feel ashamed of Well, that's in the passive voice. Who makes girls ashamed of these things? That's the unstated bullshit that needs to be called. Trying to make the unmentioned shamer explicit debunks the unmentioned blame being heaped upon men in the form of The Shadow--I mean, The Patriarchy! Feminists know they can't blame individual men, and they know it's a fallacy to blame…
/r/MensRights29/08/13 06:02 AM
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"I had this huge need to feel loved," the sobbing woman told a Sydney court. The former northern beaches high school religion and maths teacher took that need to a 15-year-old student, having sexual encounters with him in her house and car several times between June and August 2008. No agency, all victimhood. She sobs, she doesn't rape; she "takes her need to feel loved", she doesn't rape; she "has sexual encounters," she doesn't rape.
/r/MensRights29/08/13 05:47 AM
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Especially after her previous assault convictions. Nothing says "victim" like a history of violent antisocial behavior!
/r/MensRights29/08/13 05:42 AM
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Genetically, humans share 90% of their DNA with rats. We share 50% of our DNA with bananas. Our nearest genetic cousins are chimpanzees and bonobos. Chimps have a highly competitive sexual social structure where a single male beats out all the other males for exclusive access to all the females, and bashes the brains of the other males' offspring out at the first opportunity. Bonobos have a highly matriarchal society where disputes are settled via oral sex, usually involving more than two member…
/r/MensRights29/08/13 05:39 AM
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Except that the government couldn't prove even ONE case of an informant, operative, or operation being hurt by Manning's whistleblowing. The only thing "hurt" was the reputation of the US government as soldiers killed children, first responders, innocent bystanders, and journalists on video, and that that video of what is internationally recognized as war crimes was covered up so as to not make the US look bad to its allies during the Iraq war. Nothing Manning has ever released has EVER been sho…
/r/MensRights29/08/13 05:32 AM
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Makes for some great slapstick comedy!
/r/MensRights29/08/13 05:26 AM
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That's assuming that the massive discrimination men face solely because they are men is a "small issue." I don't know about you, but every time I try to convince feminists that female genital cutting, female suicide rates, and other issues primarily affecting women in the US are "small," I tend to expect riots of disapproval and condemnation. One woman in Canada is told not to dress like a slut to avoid getting raped and the whole developed world erupts with outrage, but millions of infant child…
/r/MensRights29/08/13 04:37 AM
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In addition, in what way am i disallowing you to be concerned with the draft? Go! Fight it! Send me a petition, ill sign it! But don't expect a lot of sympathy from me That's what you're doing. Right there. You see, all that you have to support your feelings about the Irish abortion law is sympathy--you even say it explicitly: I care about an Irish abortion law because its the same stance on abortion held by, say, Rick Santorum or Mitt Romney. Those guys are americans and making people aware of …
/r/MensRights29/08/13 02:57 AM
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I get all that...I really do. But that doesn't excuse the historical fact that, yes, racists have been known to do exactly that phenomenon, and nothing you've said thus far addresses this historical fact. And historically blacks were slaves. Are they slaves now? No. Historically, whites were slaves too--the Irish were enslaved just as long as west Africans were by the various Saxon and Viking tribes of Europe, and the English followed that up by hundreds of years of imperial rule and economic do…
/r/MensRights29/08/13 02:32 AM
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Thanks for the sentiment, but it's just something everyone should be doing. Kind of like not getting piss all over someone's bathroom when you go to visit, when people have an issue that they think is important, the last thing interlocutors should do is say "my issue is more important because X." That's not empathetic, not what considerate people do; it smacks of either guilt (for not supporting a cause that has merit) or shame (for being the kind of person who doesn't support good causes), beca…
/r/MensRights27/08/13 09:52 PM
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And how much of that research is based on the entirely out-of-date Edward Said's "Orientalism" (which has been ripped so many new ones by ethnic and post-colonial theorists it only has merit at the undergraduate level where students don't know any of its criticisms) or the equally out-of-touch bell hooks, who bases much of her own analysis on the similarly inappropriate Paulo Freire, whose Pedagogy of the Oppressed attempted to map Marxist revolutionary politics onto the classroom (because reall…
/r/MensRights27/08/13 09:14 PM
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So you'll excuse me if the postcard you filled out in high school is not feminists' top priority. I assure you that if I hear even a rumor of the draft being re-enacted, I will shift gears immediately. Making an impersonal argument personal doesn't invalidate the impersonal argument, it just shifts it onto indefensible grounds--YOU YOURSELF are not the one who decides whether or not the draft is enacted or if feminist organizations decide to oppose a reinstitution of the draft. But just because …
/r/MensRights27/08/13 08:53 PM
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But it really didn't--even in the late 1800s, women had the opportunity to earn money on their own without being legally required to turn that money over to caring for their husband or family, while men were literally legally required to spend their own money to care for their wives and children, and were taken to court if they did not do so to the wife's liking. The gender role of man-as-walking-wallet hasn't changed after over 100 years of feminism; only now, women need men as much as fish nee…
/r/MensRights27/08/13 08:36 PM
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And what's so wrong with that? Why would a woman dare date a guy who's different from her, just for the experience? Diversity is a two-way street--people who claim ethnic identification shouldn't pretend to be blindsided when people assume they are as radically different as the ethnic individuals claim to be. One cannot simultaneously take advantage of an Othering stereotype and disallow others from also having that stereotype. Dating someone for the sole reason that they are different than your…
/r/MensRights27/08/13 08:11 PM
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Think Hugo Schwyzer--or any person who would sell out their own friends for some attention from the opposite sex. I think the reason for all the "Nice Guy" stigmatization is because of the actual self-abasing male feminists out there willfully allowing women to define their sexuality for them. If society just one day decided that all women are child molesters, do you think women would look in the mirror and ask themselves, "well, am I a child molester?" No--because whether they answer yes or no,…
/r/MensRights22/08/13 07:01 AM
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Yeah--slavery happened. Discrimination happened. Racism still happens. But does that mean that one must MAKE it happen? No--people choose the way they think, especially in 2013 when absolutely every idea, no matter how terrible, is somewhere on the internet. What this girl (because's she' just a college kid, seriously) is doing is regurgitating a twenty year old essay that is thrown at undergraduate students because it's quick and divisive and allows teachers to make lots of fun classroom connec…
/r/MensRights22/08/13 06:53 AM
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People in developing countries practice FGM because they believe it has positive social and health benefits. The motivation for FGM, you say up above, is irrelevant. Why is it suddenly relevant when the victim is male?
/r/MensRights22/08/13 06:40 AM
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Exactly--look at how shitty her game pitch was in video 3. Princess gets put in prison by her own council (why? was she a bad ruler? if she was just a damsel, why didn't they marry her off to some pawn who would rule the way the council wanted him to?) Princess waits for a man to rescue her (why? or I should say, why not? she's royalty, and presumably hereditarily so, so either marriage or rescuing her and earning her favor is a win for anyone who can do it) Princess gets fed up and breaks herse…
/r/MensRights16/08/13 01:42 AM
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I hope not--seriously, didn't they teach her writing skills in college? Aren't you supposed to be able to get to your point quickly, not meander around it for over an hour before writing a horrible game pitch that cribs the plot to The Count of Monte Cristo and just switches the genders, even though her own game idea doesn't take into account her second video where she says just flipping the genders doesn't fit, it just makes women a "man with tits." I've never seen someone with more money, more…
/r/MensRights16/08/13 01:31 AM
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SRS uses the term liberally, and because they brigade all over, it has passed into the reddit lexicon. "Shitlord" is anybody who doesn't recognize their privilege, i.e., straight white cis-men.
/r/MensRights16/08/13 01:22 AM
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Ahh, I'm a pathetic half-wit because I actually READ your shitty sources rather than just being awed by your amazing debating skills? You should have stuck to /r/fatpeoplestories. Are you going to invite me to stop being so beta and totally become an alpha pussy destroyer at manhood academy? Have you realized yet that the pursuit of pussy for pussy's sake is just the pursuit of women's validation through their genitals? But yeah--I TOTALLY believe that you've been married before, and divorced, a…
/r/MensRights16/08/13 01:13 AM
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From your own links: But putting something into a legal agreement doesn't mean it's enforceable, attorneys say. Prenuptial agreements generally spell out how a couple will handle their financial assets if they divorce or one of them dies. But in the case of a clause that forbids someone from smoking, for example, "What's the consequence of not abiding by the agreement?" asks Violet Woodhouse, a certified family law specialist in Newport Beach, Calif., and author of Divorce and Money. "You either…
/r/MensRights16/08/13 12:14 AM
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You're right, but most feminists won't agree with you. Then again, most feminists haven't read Martha Nussbaum's seven types of objectification: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Objectification The "denial of subjectivity" is especially important for Sarkeesian's concept of the Damsel in Distress--if the (ostensibly male) players have no regard for the kidnapping of the damsel, they have no emotional investment in freeing her. Thus, her "distress" is not necessary; but as the plot device is used, t…
/r/MensRights15/08/13 05:41 PM
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What are you, 12? Maybe you should read up on the topic some more before you decide to act like an asshole on the internet: http://blogs.findlaw.com/law_and_life/2009/08/what-is-a-fault-vs-no-fault-divorce.html http://blogs.findlaw.com/law_and_life/2012/04/does-adultery-affect-a-divorce-case.html http://family.findlaw.com/marriage/what-can-and-cannot-be-included-in-prenuptial-agreements.html No, you CAN'T add sex and weight clauses to a prenup, that's just stupid. No Fault Divorces are irreconci…
/r/MensRights15/08/13 05:24 PM
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In some states like CA, merely cohabitation or significant time spent with another person counts towards child and spousal support obligations.
/r/MensRights15/08/13 05:06 PM
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Newsflash: it's not "no fault" if one of the partners has an affair. Life may be unfair, but prenuptial agreements aren't; "no fault" divorces are only applicable in the case where the divorce is being asked for due to mutual dissatisfaction. Since she cheated, the prenuptial agreement should have been unenforceable, and she should have gotten nothing, including her child.
/r/MensRights15/08/13 04:59 PM
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Complain about them in another thread. This one is a discussion on why the Dove commercials are not sexist. Way to make me feel welcome in my own safe space! Unfortunately for you, this entire post is a discussion on why the Dove commercials ARE sexist, because men are taught to love women's imperfections, but society in general is taught to make fun of men's imperfections. My thought experiment of asking whether women's fat bodies can be used for comedic effect on a billboard illustrates the fa…
/r/MensRights15/08/13 04:46 PM
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I definitely think homophobia is disguised traditional-role policing, because trying to have sex with women starts the ball rolling on the entire cavalcade of participating in the male "sex convict" system you're describing. If a man isn't trying to have sex with women, he's either a pussy or a fag; neither are "acceptable" paths for the sex convict to follow, so they have to be derided equally. I think this is primarily why bi-guys get less hate than gay guys; bi-guys, though sexually deviant, …
/r/MensRights14/08/13 04:36 AM
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Soap commercials are reactionary? Yeah--that's not hyperbole at all. Dove commercials are not being directed at boys and men age 18-25, they're for the consumer group of dove products--mostly middle aged, possibly overweight women looking to beautify themselves. So the "love yourself" philosophy is both capitalistically and psychologically validating--love your body, love our products! Love your body WITH our products! On the other hand, what are men supposed to "love" about Kevin James in King …
/r/MensRights14/08/13 04:23 AM
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Actually, I AM complaining about all those things, fundamentally. What I would wonder is why you think I shouldn't be complaining about those things... But actually, I was responding to the idea of respecting women's body issues in the Dove campaign, literally "love your body." We aren't told to "love" men's fat bodies; men's fat is funny, a source of derision and (somehow) stupidity. The fact that many, if not most, men are a bit dumpy and pot-bellied and don't have dramatic swimmer physiques a…
/r/MensRights14/08/13 04:03 AM
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Ugh--glad someone else pointed that out. Here's the other gem: But what about the men who aren’t high fiving their mates in the pub because they almost got a hand job from a 22-year-old last week? The men I rejected when I was 26 because they were ‘too nice,’ ‘wore underpants rather than boxers’ or ‘had a really prominent Adam’s apple’? In other words, "you weren't good enough when I had you, but now that I'm desperate, you'll do." If this is what dating has become, I don't want to be involved w…
/r/MensRights14/08/13 03:57 AM
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White knight gone white knight--the whole idea of white knighting is fraudulently seeming to support women while actually seeking validation from women. It's actually kind of refreshing to hear Schwyzer phrase throwing men under the bus for a wink and a nod from women so honestly. I still have no idea why he remains a tenured professor, having slept with admittedly DOZENS OF HIS STUDENTS. Seriously--when one is a feminist, literally one can do no wrong. I bet that changes now, though!
/r/MensRights14/08/13 03:48 AM
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You also never see a less-than-perfect male underwear model on billboards, except when an overweight fat guy is used for comedic effect. Now go ahead and tell me it would be completely socially acceptable to have a big old fat chick with sloppy stretch marks and cottage-cheese thighs on a billboard for comedic effect. I dare you.
/r/MensRights14/08/13 03:37 AM
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Pointing out you have no credentials -- or in fact any basis at all for your beliefs. They are based on prejudice. If you want to talk credentials, you should e-mail Dr. Hafizullah Emadi rather than trying to ad hominem a random redditor for riffing on his ideas. But I'm pretty sure you won't send that e-mail, because I'm willing to wager Dr. Emadi has done a lot more work on this subject than you. You wanted a discussion of credentials, so put up or shut up--what did you get your PhD in, and ha…
/r/MensRights10/08/13 06:58 AM
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Well, don't you know how cultural marxist movements are created? You need an oppressor group, an oppressed group, and an ideal to shoot for as to what society "ought to be." The only problem is that oppressors are often in short supply, and radically-bent "oppressed" groups can actually be far more dangerous to the population. That's why "The Party" becomes the most important and repressive regime of any cultural revolution. Feminists already have their "Party" and their enemy, the capitalist pi…
/r/MensRights09/08/13 08:45 AM
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"I know you are, but what am I?" is actually what is happening. 3rd (or is it 4th?) wave feminism has demonized women for not participating in the cultural revolution that feminism has become, a sort of uni-gender maoism. In order to justify "Patriarchy," feminists have turned to infantilization and damseling of women, literally creating the patriarchy they seek to find in the world. They say "women cannot speak!" with women's lips, and they shout "women are oppressed!" from the highest levels o…
/r/MensRights09/08/13 08:28 AM
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This is all satire of the original article and should not be taken out of context as a statement of honest belief. Don't be a twat. ;) Do not involve your vagina in sexting. Everybody knows that a loose woman has a loose vagina; don't make yourself a target for shamers by advertising your floppy meat curtains all over the web! The pictures will always come out, so if you don't want to be left at the altar or in the unemployment line because of your gross, discolored woman bits, keep them in your…
/r/MensRights09/08/13 08:16 AM
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Hey--you want to prove me wrong, you gotta do more than an ad hominem attack on my credentials. You're going to have to explain to me why women and girls being attacked with acid for trying to go to school is not infringing on women's rights, why there's nothing whatsoever to the issue of forcing women to stay at home and cover themselves from head to toe in hijabs, or cutting off bits of their genitals, or making it illegal for women to file complaints of rape against their spouses. Now, I'm no…
/r/MensRights08/08/13 02:42 PM
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I think GirlWritesWhat's video on patriarchy backfiring for women does a great job of exposing the one-sidedness of debates about patriarchy oppressing ONLY women, considering that women under patriarchal systems are privileged by being treated like china dolls while men are obligated to provide for women's needs along with the needs of the whole family. It's not that there's a "superior" or "inferior" partner, any more than the Sub in a Sub/Dom relationship is "submissive" to the partner he or …
/r/MensRights08/08/13 02:37 AM
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Ayaan Hirsi Ali comes to mind; a lot of the work she does focuses on cultures that actually legally oppress women in legal and cultural practice, especially in fundamentalist Islamic countries where women do not have the same rights as men.
/r/MensRights07/08/13 11:02 PM
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Let's face it--by every objective standard, women are cops. They can't be trusted, because they have convinced society to trust them even when they do wrong. So even when you trust them, your trust is not rewarded, or only rewarded with the absence of punishment. If you say the wrong thing or think the wrong thought, you CAN be punished, so your most logical move is not to say or think anything. When a (white) girl goes missing, the universe goes apeshit--just like when someone kills a cop. When…
/r/MensRights06/08/13 11:05 PM
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That's a good metaphor, especially with the example on the front page of the Lette/Deane debate. Lette spends all her time building up her bailey of social justice name-dropping and insinuations that women are "on her side," but when it comes time to discuss the actual specifics of what she wants the results are nebulous and unsettling--Deane rightly points out that "naming and shaming" is a witchhunt tactic, not a legal or social solution, and that her end goal would be to erase anonymity on th…
/r/MensRights06/08/13 10:17 PM
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I talked about men's issues once with two friends of mine. They stopped hanging out with me explicitly because of my "extremism." Yeah--I'm the Unabomber because I think genital mutilation laws should be expanded to cover boys below the age of consent. Look out, world.
/r/MensRights06/08/13 09:59 PM
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What about sex in which neither party can consent, i.e., the drunken hookup?
/r/MensRights06/08/13 09:53 PM
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That's just the misperception--that anybody pays attention to trolls. Or really anybody online. The online universe is so solipsistic that people actually have to commit metaphorical suicide if they feel they can't handle living there--committing "Facebook suicide" or "twitter suicide." In real life, most people never even look at the comments on blog posts; most people never even read blog posts. And nobody except the poster reads PMs or private responses on twitter or Facebook or elsewhere. Ma…
/r/MensRights06/08/13 05:32 PM
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Leane was making two points--one, that "naming and shaming" was not a tactic to increase police action, but mob justice, thereby avoiding the rule of law in favor of repressive political correctness enforced by the worst elements of twitter. And two, that the only way to "name and shame" twitter trolls is to either publish their real names, or to ban their accounts and therefore potentially just censor dissent. The "report" button would not serve police enforcement of anti-harassment law, it wou…
/r/MensRights06/08/13 05:07 PM
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Mario isn't "strong" enough to rescue Peach--he's disposable enough to die repeatedly for the audience's enjoyment while they try to save the universally important Peach. If we really felt nothing for Peach and other female characters, if we really considered them disposable, we wouldn't find their imminent violent deaths unacceptable and requiring feats of heroism to avoid; we'd find their deaths funny. In fact, we'd probably devote whole videos on YouTube and mechanics in games to ensure that …
/r/MensRights06/08/13 04:54 PM
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This is exactly the point I was hoping to find! Feminists have created a nonsense taboo to justify their misandry and society didn't even notice. "Male power" is now the thing to fight, even though supposedly feminists aren't against men. They're "all about equality," which means more for them and less for men, regardless of whether it creates more imbalance than it purports to solve. Even if we accept the entire idea of the "male power fantasy," it's still based on an underlying ideology of the…
/r/MensRights06/08/13 04:23 PM
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Jeez--is everything at Jezebel written like a hit piece? I know feminists think that a lot of MRA blogs are mean and hateful, and sometimes they're even right; but the spiteful, superior condescension in this piece is atrocious. If I have to hear one more "dude..." comment drenched in sarcasm I might have a stroke.
/r/MensRights06/08/13 02:03 PM
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I don't know who "someone" is, but I do understand passive aggressive snark; it sounds like you earned your master's degree in it. It'll help you out on the internet--we're big consumers of snark here. As for Sarkeesian, she still hasn't given her people, her financiers, her backers what she told them she would. Granted, that's not unheard of for Kickstarter projects, but 10 months to produce her first video and then 2 months for each individual video is pretty extreme. Considering that even the…
/r/MensRights02/08/13 06:18 AM
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Well, then they're halfway there--tell them about Ayaan Hirsi Ali and other Women's Rights Activists and you will have gained a human rights activist ally!
/r/MensRights02/08/13 05:40 AM

Yeah--my questioning the motives of an underwhelming underperforming Youtube non-sensation are going to be the smoking gun that makes all of Feministia realize the ills of the MRA hordes. Maybe you're just overreacting a tad. I'm not entirely sure she's even aware that she's scamming everybody; maybe she's really convinced herself that she's some sort of awesome avatar of truth and light battling her way to some higher purpose. But really, she's just sowing seeds of discord and traipsing away as…
/r/MensRights02/08/13 05:29 AM
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Both games and reality TV do stuff for society. Name one thing that video games and reality TV does for society that wouldn't be accomplished staring at a blank glowing screen for hours at a time. I'm not saying they aren't entertaining; I'm saying they aren't anything MORE than entertaining. If we were entertained by blank glowing screens, we'd watch them instead. edit for loss of brain
/r/MensRights02/08/13 04:59 AM

Maybe because they're not pious shitheads to begin with--they're businessmen. Maybe Sarkeesian will ultimately be revealed as just another callous shithead businesswoman, but for right now, she's got the feminist blogging industry convinced that she's their Second Coming, the Redeemer, the one who will finally make feminists cool and hip and 'with it.' Thus far, her rambling, repetitive, complaining videos have been underwhelming in every sense of the word. I'm not holding my breath that she'll …
/r/MensRights02/08/13 04:57 AM
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Actually, that's not quite right, because the money isn't Anita's and the videos ARE for the people who donated. Remember, people didn't GIVE Anita money; they paid money for a video series, and so they are her board of directors, her financiers. Though Kickstarter isn't responsible if people scam donors, it's still a scam; and Sarkeesian is so far not delivering anywhere near her mythic 15-20 part series. At the rate she's going (one every 7 months), she won't be finished for another eleven yea…
/r/MensRights02/08/13 04:53 AM
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Oh, I'm sure it took her weeks--like three, maybe four tops--to put these videos together. I mean, she had already covered the Damsel in Distress trope quite a bit as Feminist Frequency, so she didn't have to reinvent the wheel there. And she reuses the same shots over and over, so she didn't have to steal too many other people's videos to get "her" evidence, so there's that. And while I'm sure writing, setting up, shooting, and editing would have taken a goodly length of time, Youtuber GirlWrit…
/r/MensRights02/08/13 04:45 AM

Really? Really?? I'm "being an entitled brat" for wanting a reasonable amount of effort from someone being paid to do it? When was the last time you put in one hour's worth of work in a year for $160,000? Your boss must be awesome if that's what you consider a reasonable expectation. Let me make it even clearer for you--if Sarkeesian was any other kind of social media personality, like a sports commentator or a fashion blogger, and she had received $160,000 in a publicly funded campaign to bring…
/r/MensRights02/08/13 04:04 AM
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I'm anti-feminist because I want quality content from someone who's had a year and over a hundred thousand dollars to provide it? Name one anti-feminist thing I said in that last post, including your quoted comment--which actually doesn't quote anything. So far, we've gotten three--count 'em--three shitty videos on the same subject with the same production values as when Sarkeesian was doing the Feminist Frequency thing on her own time and her own dime. Is it now anti-feminist to require quality…
/r/MensRights02/08/13 03:50 AM
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It's already been done in several games. She points that out. It's not important to her. All that matters is the trope, the Holy Trope.
/r/MensRights02/08/13 03:47 AM
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It's also ironic that he has "quit" like so many Tumblr feminists and other self-aggrieved social justice warriors do, very publicly, as if they were St. Sebastian being shot full of arrows for daring to buck the status quo. If he really were quitting, he'd quit--not make a post of him quitting, with his picture on the front of his blog about him quitting, and giving all sorts of self-indulgent psycho-pharmacological reasons for his quitting. He even wants to spend time with his "wife and family…
/r/MensRights02/08/13 03:32 AM

Firstly, YES, she took too much money. She was already an established Youtuber with equipment enough for the videos she had already done; the fact that her videos have not changed in production values whatsoever, and that she is actually not using recorded footage of the games she supposedly bought (there was a picture of her with stacks of games, but that might have simply been a promotional stunt), means that the online community essentially just gave her $160,000 for doing what she was alread…
/r/MensRights02/08/13 03:19 AM
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Good point!
/r/MensRights02/08/13 02:42 AM
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Part 3? Did we need a part 3?? Wasn't all this covered in parts 1, and then reviewed in part 2? Seriously--is there actually anything new, relevant, or noteworthy in this to make it worth the huge amount of money people have spent on it?
/r/MensRights02/08/13 02:39 AM
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These comparisons are way too extreme to be taken in any way seriously. Sarkeesian is trying to make an ideological point about entertainment and leisure activities, namely things without which society can cope just fine. Video games literally do NOTHING for society as a whole; they are as relevant to law, order, employment, and education as reality TV. So why the hell are you putting video games on the same level as pedophilia, rape, divorce, and spousal abuse?? "I think reality TV makes people…
/r/MensRights02/08/13 02:37 AM
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Yes, because having an opinion is "idiocy" and being a "douche-bag." Make sure to include yourself in that douche, sweetheart.
/r/MensRights02/08/13 02:31 AM

I've given a response to this comment on /TwoX as well, but in short, Sarkeesian is an ideologue--she's a hammer, and to her everything looks like a nail. The fact that she's now done THREE videos on one single trope when we all got the message the first time shows that she doesn't have the ability to think critically--that is, to look at something from multiple different perspectives. If she were to actually critique her own ideas and ask whether they have the "ring of truth," she might have so…
/r/MensRights02/08/13 02:29 AM
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"Hear my bank account roar!"
/r/TheRedPill25/06/13 04:46 AM
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It's also an intentionally dense review--of course you're going to identify with the character you're playing when you're playing as them. That's what a video game is! What the reviewer doesn't seem to get is that strange thing called a "story", especially the highly evolved concept of a "back-story" for the main character. He wants to protect his daughter, he can't, so he protects another girl in her place. Seriously--if "Joel" in the game was "Jane", the reviewer would be applauding this game …
/r/MensRights21/06/13 02:42 PM
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Don't know why you're being downvoted--women are at fault in all eight reasons why men don't want to get married. We should be speaking out without having to resort to sarcasm and telling truth through humor because we can't speak openly. Women have made marriage inhospitable, and nobody gives a shit because everybody wants to please women. Women can and do shit all over men's personal lives and senses of self in marriage and it's just seen as another initiation rite the "boy" has to go through …
/r/MensRights21/06/13 02:32 PM
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Jeez--couldn't make it halfway through the article; had to stop at Adam Lanza, an obviously mentally ill child, being lumped in with "men" who commit domestic violence. There are so many more well-established theories as to the Sandy Hook shooting than this... I feel this should be relegated to the Lizard-People conspiracy bin for all the relevance it has to reality.
/r/MensRights20/06/13 02:48 PM
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Well, shit. She not only got out a lot of good talking points, she managed to mention Hoff-Summers and Farrell AND men's rights in the same statement. That's pretty awesome! Good to see more of these ideas getting air time and getting into the public consciousness.
/r/MensRights20/06/13 02:21 PM
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The difference is one of reaction vs. overreaction--the Slutwalkers may have been overreacting, but they were responding to the largely unexamined slut-shaming that both men and women have engaged in for years. The fact that they tried to blame it on men and say it only applies to women is overreaction, but that doesn't invalidate the reason for their reaction in the first place. Similarly, here we have a ridiculous overreaction to male sexual harassment, such that police officers were called in…
/r/MensRights19/06/13 08:00 PM
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And if a 16 year old girl killed herself after being admonished by the police for sexting a boy, you think nobody would be asking whether she was being unfairly targeted and her sexuality demonized? Do you think the girl's parents wouldn't be getting offers from numerous advocacy groups to sue the police for their scare tactics? That feminist groups wouldn't demand that the officers involved be fired? For fuck's sake, feminists held international protests when a police officer had the bad taste …
/r/MensRights19/06/13 04:28 PM
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You just justified not renting apartments to gay people. Just sayin'.
/r/MensRights19/06/13 12:08 PM
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"Do as I say, not as I do."
/r/MensRights14/06/13 02:44 PM
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More like, stems all the way back into the deep dark history of social security, Medicare, and Medicaid all being 10x over budget and less and less fiscally feasible every year, and seeing other "socialized" programs in other countries being subsidized by massive taxes that eat away at the productive capital of the disappearing middle class, making it far less likely that any future generations will have the resources to be more productive than their predecessors, which means less money going in…
/r/MensRights14/06/13 02:29 PM
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Sure--but whether my son has a train of cocks/pussies come into his life or my daughter does is not important; what is important is that they don't let those cocks and pussies define them, the way so many men and women of my generation let their sexual behaviors define us. I can't tell you the number of women I've had to dump just because they didn't think they deserved any better than assholes, and took every step they could to ensure that outcome regardless of risk to themselves or their child…
/r/TheRedPill13/06/13 02:37 PM
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Raise them to be independent thinkers and then stand back and let them decide for themselves what they want to be. Most hypergamous women I've known were not born that way--they were trained by soulless mothers bouncing their fathers' heads off the curb outside of divorce courts, using the kids as leverage and sleeping with random bedwarmers instead of providing a stable home life because the alimony would dry up if she remarried. The 70s through the 2000s were an era of absolutely unprecedented…
/r/TheRedPill12/06/13 11:17 PM
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Yes--wanting to be able to take someone at their word and not be subject to the whims of someone who has the legal and social power to ruin your life just because of a miscommunication is hating women. Let's flip the genders: say I have a "conception fetish." I absolutely love raw-dogging it, fantasizing that I'm getting my girl pregnant. But there's no such thing as birth control for her; I'm the only one with birth control, and she has to take my word for it that I've taken it. Sure, I could s…
/r/MensRights12/06/13 05:16 AM
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And here you are proving my point--the article was emended to make it "clear" that the original author was not condoning rape. As in it was not clear in the original piece. Sort of like saying "I'll rape the shit out of you!" and then adding an edit in afterwords "I only meant on Xbox live! Totes 4 realz!" The original piece was what she really thought, and what many feminists think, that consent is whatever a woman says it is, and woe betide the fucker who gets on her bad side. Who's to say she…
/r/MensRights12/06/13 04:52 AM
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Both women and men can be brought to orgasm when they are raped--does that mean they aren't raped? I didn't create this insane atmosphere of hostility and suspicion. But since it's here (and getting worse, as the Adria Richards escapade showed), it might as well be equal in its insanity. Why should women get a pass when they say rapetastic shit?
/r/MensRights12/06/13 12:28 AM
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If you're the recipient, it's awesome. Free money--for life! All it costs is your soul!
/r/MensRights12/06/13 12:26 AM
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But the guy in question is probably only on disability, and probably also racking up debt besides; the woman can't create money, because she's his caregiver, and the only time she can even leave is when they pay somebody else to take care of the guy. I don't know their finances, but I would imagine that they don't HAVE $10k, or even the ability to pay $10k, or even the ability to borrow $10k, or even to borrow enough money to begin to pay back the lawyer on an installment plan. Again, I know not…
/r/MensRights12/06/13 12:22 AM
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The term "S&M" is never mentioned in the article. Neither is there any discussion of consensual non-consent, of roleplaying, or of explicit boundaries. The writer only wrote her correction after the fact when it became clear that she was intentionally confusing issues of consent. If a man had written what she wrote, he would be lambasted by the feminist blogosphere, regardless of his fucking intentions. She deserves the same treatment.
/r/MensRights11/06/13 11:59 PM
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Just so that we're clear--the terms "safe word," "consent," and "explicit" are never mentioned in the context you are using them. They are inferences made after the fact when it was very clear that the original author had made the issue of consent very unclear. I'm not mixing up shit--the original author, either intentionally or unintentionally, mixed up consensual and nonconsensual sex. For fuck's sake--the entire feminist blogosphere is reacting violently to a male video game console host tell…
/r/MensRights11/06/13 11:27 PM
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There's a hypothesis out there that there's no such thing has "hover hand"--just that the pictures are being taken before the hands in question have reached their destination.
/r/MensRights11/06/13 02:52 AM
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... except that that would make the slaves no better than their masters, torturing and killing just because they could. Somebody has to be moral in the calculus of life; otherwise, why have morals? Revenge is just as immoral as slavery, and killing your captors for hurting you is only legitimizing violence, regardless of who it is directed towards. Violence is wrong--it may be necessary sometimes, but it is always wrong.
/r/MensRights11/06/13 02:49 AM
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I disagree--what the author retroactively intended is not what she wrote: No matter who I’ve done it with, my immediate reaction has always been “ow fuck, ouch, please stop.” And I wriggle and I try to pull away, and I panic. The test of a boy that I really want to sink my teeth into is that he’ll keep on going anyway. The best boys will push me face down into the bed, put their full weight on top of me, wrap their arms around my chest and my throat, and whisper in my ear that I have to take it.…
/r/MensRights11/06/13 02:25 AM
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My post in response to the individuals Didn't take but 1 minute before I was accused of "complaining." No good deed goes unpunished.
/r/MensRights09/06/13 01:22 AM
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If it were Catholics doing it, nobody would be batting an eyelash at someone saying "catholics..." while shaking their heads. The problem comes with the fact that "Jewish" is an ethnic as well as a religious distinction. It seems like the original commenter is saying that the orthodox jews aren't doing it because they're semitic, but because they're orthodox.
/r/MensRights08/06/13 04:28 PM
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Yeah--that's one of the cooler things about the Tao Te Ching that I've come to believe, which is that putting your faith in people rather than in virtue itself is shallow and ultimately self-defeating, because people are human and vulnerable and sometimes stupid and wicked. It sounds from the Wiki page that Osho found out just how vulnerable and stupid and wicked people were, to his cost. It's a sad ending to an interesting tale, but not unheard of.
/r/MensRights04/06/13 09:00 PM
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One would assume that the extra money would be an incentive to work harder, i.e., that she could literally live off of the kickstarter money and be able to concentrate full-time on her work. At 8 hours per day, 5 days per week, for 44 weeks or more (I'm assuming she would have to take time away from her work to promote, go to TED talks, do interviews, etc.) you'd think she would have managed to do more than one video and a follow-up that added nothing to her previous discussion. On top of that i…
/r/MensRights04/06/13 08:48 PM
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You're very welcome! It's good to have a conversation on reddit that doesn't devolve into petty snark and nitpicking squabbles over this and that! I'll take a look at Osho and see what I can see.
/r/MensRights04/06/13 03:56 AM
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Indubitably--the fundamental principles upon which the founding fathers created the United States (and its original sin, slavery) was local, individualistic, agrarian growth, balanced with slick city consumerism to channel goods and increase profits. Where it went wrong was the idea that profit was the goal, not simply the means to achieving the real goal of what any free society should have, which you rightly point out is stability. The profit motive is what created the slave trade, the press g…
/r/MensRights04/06/13 03:43 AM
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Antigone is a really good play.
/r/MensRights04/06/13 03:36 AM
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Part of what men have to fight, though, is the implication of our traditional role as instrument for the use of women. When MRAs or MGTOW talk about "red pill," they mean objectively encapsulating the whole institution of male disposability and husbandry (literally, the growing of a subservient, loyal, and dependent partner--the traditional "chivalrous" attitude of men) and critiquing it from an outside perspective. Until you actually look at how many ways men are conditioned to behave in societ…
/r/MensRights04/06/13 03:36 AM
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Indeed--already we've seen that the huge overreach of the international banking industry is forcing lenders to rein in their own outlays to consumers, which causes interest rates to rise, which in turn means that more people rent and avoid home ownership, which means that they can be more mobile as a community in response to changing job conditions. While that used to be disastrous for a community, nowadays not having a wide net for job opportunities dooms some towns and even regions to perpetua…
/r/MensRights04/06/13 03:14 AM
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People who viciously lash out against other ideologies should generally not be trusted. I'm as libertarian as the day is long, but I honestly don't have much problem with socialism and lefty policies. I think they're about as useful as right-wing and conservative policies, but that's just my view. I don't want to vilify the people who believe in those ideologies. WBB attacked the people, not the positions. Kinda glad she's backing down, hopefully getting some perspective and living a little. The…
/r/MensRights04/06/13 01:47 AM
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That's the exact point a lot of people miss when they bring up Sweden, Norway, or other socialized countries--their governments are intensely local, and concerned almost exclusively with local welfare. Unfortunately, it's hard to have that here in the US because our population is 500 times the size of Sweden's and we have huge amounts of land and resources to manage. Federalism was a very useful system--keep those things that need top-down management at the federal level, and everything else at …
/r/MensRights04/06/13 01:32 AM
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What I wonder is A) why she needed to buy the video games when she could have just subscribed to a rental service, and B) why she bought so many games when she references so very few of them (and ones she could just research online, like Legend of Zelda and Mario). I mean, I've seen some pretty slick videos on YouTube that were the result of a few hours' internet research and a day or so worth of script-writing, recording, and editing. Her videos aren't even all that intensive--just her talking …
/r/MensRights04/06/13 01:24 AM
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I almost wish she was a scammer; more likely she was just another doe-eyed feminist who couldn't imagine that her ideologies could ever possibly be insulting to anyone else.
/r/MensRights04/06/13 01:13 AM
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I think it's been a while since the US had a well-functioning court system. They were probably happy to have the bullshit he-said, she-said cases off their dockets entirely. If it's enough of a crime that the accused will suffer real-world punishment, he should be entitled to a real-world criminal justice system, not a kangaroo court of misguided youths and niche social climbers.
/r/MensRights04/06/13 01:08 AM
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Passion =/= anger. It's perfectly possible to be passionate without being aggressive or hostile to other opinions. And winning emotional manipulation "wars" are not necessary for the MRM--we don't have to manipulate the vast disparities in male vs. female quality-of-life statistics in the US. The evidence is so far on our side that the only way the other side can win is to manipulate, to play on perceptions of victimhood, to cry foul, to make a fuss, and to distract from the overwhelming evidenc…
/r/MensRights02/06/13 01:26 AM
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West's deep argument in here is not just "calling (the bad comedian) a dick," she is advocating publicly shaming him and hurting him professionally for perceived insensitivity. I say "him" because female comedians like Lisa Lampanelli constantly make anti-black slurs--about how much she likes big black dicks, how she keeps black men in their place (between her legs), how she loves sleeping around and the fact that black men like fat white chicks like her, etc. Is she a racist? Or how about Sarah…
/r/MensRights02/06/13 01:13 AM
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If we don't allow women, then awesome MRAs like GirlWritesWhat and Typhon Blue won't be allowed. That's dumb. Open-door policy. Anybody should be able to come in, listen, give their point of view. Even trolls, haters, and assholes. Secrecy invites misinterpretation; transparency debunks misinterpretation. Period.
/r/MensRights31/05/13 12:03 AM
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Not according to the SPLC... blogs are hate speech. Anybody who even reads those blogs is guilty of hate speech. Anybody who even subscribes to sites which aggregate posts about those blogs are guilty of hate speech. Silencing opposition all damn day long.
/r/MensRights30/05/13 11:59 PM
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That's not "playing devil's advocate"; the "devil's advocate" position is one that is not a generally supported conclusion or not a line of thought that the speaker agrees with, but one the speaker adopts in order to spark debate over a seemingly uncomplicated position. You're just reasserting the mainstream opinion; no devilry there.
/r/MensRights30/05/13 09:35 PM
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I don't know, but the Jeremy Irons movie version came out in 1997, and though it received some controversy, it wasn't rejected out of hand. And I'm sure there are other examples of contemporary controversial narratives in other media formats; it's not the age difference that gets most people's hackles up, it's the Endangered White Girl syndrome, where people get irrationally concerned for the welfare of girls who are young and white and pretty. That's as much a racial issue as it is a gender iss…
/r/MensRights30/05/13 09:33 PM
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Oh, of course--Eve Ensler made gay rape of underaged girls in her Vagina Monologues a cause célèbre for feminists. Just so long as she sticks to the "good rapes", everything will be fine.
/r/MensRights29/05/13 03:50 PM
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To play devil's advocate, Lolita?
/r/MensRights29/05/13 03:42 PM
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You sound like me. Only problem is, I've got nearly ten years on you and I haven't found a solution either. I would say that I'm to blame, but there's a big difference between feeling unhappy and feeling pressured to be someone you're not, have only the emotions you're allowed to have, and live only in the ways society says you should live. I literally feel like an outsider just for having my own mind and opinions both professionally and socially, and nobody is interested in changing that status…
/r/MensRights29/05/13 12:05 AM
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While British feminists were lobbying for the right to vote, they were publicly shaming men and boys who didn't want to go off to fight in WWI: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_feather Those same feminists and suffragettes were only lobbying for the vote on the condition that they not be expected to serve in the military or have any other obligations or responsibilities attached to their "right" to vote. Women in Britain not only got the right to vote while not having to serve and die in WWI…
/r/MensRights26/05/13 02:07 PM
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Arias said she didn't intend to cause pain to the Alexander family and called Travis Alexander's death "the worst mistake of my life." This alone makes it clear that she is not repentant about her murderous actions; you don't consider a crime you committed a "mistake"--it's not like you shit the bed or spilled wine on a white sofa, you killed someone, viciously, horrendously violently murdered somebody. Arias wasn't "mistaken" when she did it, like she drove down the wrong street or asked a fat …
/r/MensRights25/05/13 06:21 PM
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I'd say the source of the message about men's horniness and men's own conflicting attitudes about horniness is the relative value of women's sexuality over men's sexuality. GirlWritesWhat has a great video on this topic: http://youtu.be/mEO-ADIniag The basic gist is that women's relative input into the sexual dynamics is far greater than men's--we have biologically a few minutes of required input in creating successful offspring, but in order for that offspring to survive the mother must devote …
/r/MensRights22/05/13 11:57 PM
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Stop what? Stop doing one thing, start doing another? Stop moaning because it sounds really weird? Stop licking my ear because it feels gross? What you're asking for is an utterly unrealistic attitude towards sex--where there is only two speeds to sexual activity: super-hot enthusiastic orgasmotronic consent... and rape. That's just not good enough, especially when a) honest-to-god vicious bloody cunt-tearing rape is put on the same level as "oh, I'm just as drunk as you are and I'm having troub…
/r/MensRights21/05/13 05:29 AM
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I think the OP was talking more about rights violations--considering that the rider not only exempts "the female sex" (however that is being defined--trans women need not apply?) from present constraints as well as allows a future loophole the size of a mountain for exemptions to be made, lawmakers could conceivably write anything favoring women that they want into law using the rider and have it be protected by the ERA. It's like the proverbial Commerce Clause of the amendment. http://en.m.wiki…
/r/MensRights20/05/13 05:04 PM
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Don't forget--he was as drunk as she was; he might not even have recognized she said "stop." I've had whole conversations while drunk I can't remember. I'm sure you have too.
/r/MensRights20/05/13 04:52 PM
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I'd say this is men's rights-tangential, as the sentencing disparity, prison rape culture, and concepts of male disposability are highlighted in the prison slave labor system. While this same system affects female inmates as well, the push to lower female presence in prison by reducing or eliminating jail time for women and extend male presence in prison by demanding longer sentences and harsher punishments means that the gender disparity in for-profit prison slave labor will only increase.
/r/MensRights20/05/13 02:47 PM
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When I have conversations (alright, arguments) with my coworkers about feminism, female representation in the media, etc., these silencing tactics often don't come up, or they are taken jokingly. More often, I get the stunned silence reaction--people hesitating for a moment when I blatantly disagree with them, as if I just told them the moon wasn't real. There's usually been a bit of interrogation back and forth, and sometimes some honest communication, but most have not wanted to continue the c…
/r/MensRights19/05/13 11:12 PM
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According to a Facebook page that apparently belongs to Lanker-Simons she is a member of the University of Wyoming Gender & Women's Studies group as well as the school’s chapter of The Nonviolent Communist. Glad to know she's one of the nonviolent ones!
/r/MensRights19/05/13 06:30 AM
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Men have been second-class citizens since female-oriented mate selection created our hominid ancestors. Females have always had the responsibility to judge the most suitable mate for their time; male choice is an evolutionary detriment to the propagation of the species.
/r/MensRights19/05/13 06:26 AM
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I love how your "defense" of her ridiculous overreaction to driving badly is to infantilize her actions as a "lost... confused" woman-child who shouldn't be held responsible for her own ability to drive, even though she supposedly had to pass a test to do so. It's far more misogynistic to excuse her idiocy as being inseparable from her overall state of mind than to say she was being an asshole driver and then pulled the gender card when someone called her on it. The cyclist wasn't the one who ma…
/r/MensRights17/05/13 11:05 PM
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Pointing out glaring omissions in the narrative of rape victimization as spread by the mainstream media and culture is not in any way Oppression Olympics. MRAs are not saying that women's victimization should be downplayed in favor of men's--we're saying that men are being cast in the role of villain when they are a large percentage of victims, and women are being ignored as villains because society values them more than men. Demanding equal valuation and consideration is not engaging in a fucki…
/r/MensRights17/05/13 10:53 PM
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Once again, you're assuming that feminists and MRAs are two sides of the same coin, when in fact feminists are a shabby wooden nickel demanding to be accepted as the same quality currency as a freshly minted 75% nickel MRA. Feminists don't just need disclaimers on their garbage statistics and propaganda talking points--they need a [citation needed] sticker like they put on Wikipedia when obvious bullshit is detected. Yet instead of constantly running into the problem that creationists have (thei…
/r/MensRights15/05/13 05:51 AM
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No, that's tone-checking. The strength of men's rights is not rhetorical, relying solely on our ability to persuade people, it's evidentiary--the numbers do not lie. As long as MRAs continue to fall for the lie that the MRM is based on just as intangible and unproven a basis as feminism, there will be an obsession with the tone of our speakers, the appropriateness of our topics, and the way we go about convincing people. We don't need to convince people that 90% of workplace deaths are male and …
/r/MensRights14/05/13 08:41 PM
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Aww--I was looking forward to the backlash from banning The Vagina Monologues. Remember ladies--when a middle-aged woman plies an underaged girl with alcohol in order to rape her, Eve Ensler calls that a "good rape"!
/r/MensRights13/05/13 05:38 PM
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Among female athletes, yes: http://www.livescience.com/2775-girls-dangerous-sport-cheerleading.html
/r/MensRights13/05/13 05:24 PM
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This sub =/= mainstream media. Show me a single MRA on the same platform as equally-placed feminists and I'll show you a writer being explicitly forced to regurgitate mea culpa platitudes after everything he says. Hell--just look at the writing on the "Good" Men Project. In order to avoid censure from feminist-dominated society, MRAs have to apologize for a non-existent oppression or risk being silenced, ostracized, protested, and even attacked.
/r/MensRights13/05/13 05:11 PM
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Actually, that's what every MRA has to open with, and close with, and spend the entirety of his talk on. Really, any deviation from women's supposed victimization by society is viewed as misogynist and verbal harassment. Isn't it ironic that besides being superior to men in numerous essential quality-of-life assessments, and having a legal and moral stranglehold on public discourse and legislation, that feminists' own rhetoric about female victimization is more vehement than ever? They've damsel…
/r/MensRights13/05/13 02:59 PM
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No no--your own quoted source doesn't fit your analogy of "piercing vs dismemberment." Can you remember your quote of what Type IV of illegal female genital mutilation entails? If you are unable to remember, here's a refresher: Type IV: miscellaneous procedures ranging from a symbolic pricking or piercing of the clitoris or labia, to cauterization of the clitoris, cutting into the vagina to widen it (gishiri cutting), and introducing corrosive substances to tighten it. You posted this multiple t…
/r/MensRights08/05/13 04:44 AM
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I can't tell you how many times just throughout the day I have to bite back my tongue hearing people make "being a man" sound like a curse, a perpetual childhood, a de-evolution, a superpower, and a criminal allegation. I can't even remember the last time anybody asked me who my male role models were growing up; in fact, I don't even get the sense from my non-work friends that they even like being men. And forget comedy; I used to love comedians and funny shows, until I realized that they were r…
/r/MensRights07/05/13 10:32 PM
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You seem to be under the misapprehension that A) plenty of people aren't already working to publicly and positively change policy on circumcision, and B) that this discussion has anything to do with that effort. Since you're operating under just such a misapprehension, let me correct it--this is not TED Talks, you are not a community of policy wonks I'm trying to sway, and if I want to complain about circumcision on the Internet, I have the fucking right to without some random person saying I ca…
/r/MensRights07/05/13 10:18 PM
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Cheerleading is not considered a sport due to Title IX, because the woman who runs it is a very gender-conservative old biddy. See Penn and Teller's "Bullshit!" episode on Cheerleading for her talking smack about cheerleaders, who actually lead the nation in sports-related injuries, more than any other sport. Meanwhile, women's sports are not anywhere near as popular as men's sports, but Title IX can be invoked whenever crazy biddy lady or her social justice minions decide there's "inequality." …
/r/MensRights07/05/13 05:47 PM
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That's not statistically significant, considering the vast majority of the population is heterosexual. What IS statistically significant, though, are two facts: there were 191,670 victims of rape or sexual assault in 2005 The current US population is around 311,000,000 If we OVERreport every single one of these sexual assaults to be completed rapes, and if we falsely assume every single rape to be committed by a different person, we still end up with 0.0006% of the population committing rapes. W…
/r/MensRights07/05/13 05:41 PM
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What? That sounds like a 13 year old said it. "Obviously you don't want a law to be passed because you just haven't passed one yet." Schoolhouse Rock, motherfucker, have you seen it? Do you even know how a bill becomes law? How many thousands of man-hours, millions of dollars in lobbies, special interest groups, and specialty committees weigh in on proposed legislation? Why am I even wasting my time with you? Obvious troll is being obvious.
/r/MensRights07/05/13 08:11 AM
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Reminds me of that horrible gym whose name I don't even care to remember which has the "lunk alarm" system to make a huge kerfuffle if a "lunk" (that is to say, someone proficient at working out) makes too much noise exerting himself. Being a "lunk" can actually get you tossed out of the gym even though you paid for a membership. What's the result? Nobody actually works out to their full potential in the gym for fear of setting off the wailing klaxon of the "lunk alarm." Just thinking about it m…
/r/MensRights07/05/13 07:32 AM
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Indeed--Title IX has stripped so many opportunities for sports activities for boys simply because girls aren't interested enough to maintain a 50/50 split of interest in the sport. The outrage doesn't come from us wanting boys to dominate over girls on girls' teams; the outrage is that because of equality legislation the only opportunity a boy has to play is being taken away from him because he's a boy.
/r/MensRights07/05/13 07:28 AM
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If rape had anything to do with sexuality, then it would make no sense for straight men to rape a gay man for being gay. Yet victims of gay-bashing have often been forced to endure painful sexual harassment, assault, forced penetration with beer bottles, etc., in addition to being chained to truck bumpers and dragged to death. Ugh. Sex is about mutual gratification and connection with others; rape is about violence and victimization of others. Rapists, even child molesters, are aware of the wron…
/r/MensRights07/05/13 07:02 AM
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Surely this won't harm his ability to go to work, proceed in court cases, or have access to his own property. It's just "distance", not "making someone homeless for the duration".
/r/MensRights07/05/13 06:51 AM
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I need a fucking reality check? Am I the fucking president, that I can somehow in my own spare time do better than twenty-plus years of advocacy from organizations all over the world pushing for a ban on circumcision? Are you seriously trying to blame the entire problem of male gender disposability in genital integrity on me? Who the fuck are you to make such claims? Maybe you should visit the websites of NOCIRC or Intact America or CAN-FAP or any of dozens of online activists protesting and mar…
/r/MensRights07/05/13 06:26 AM
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Aww--that's sweet; as if being put on ice by you is enough to ruin my day. I don't have to provide you with shit. It's not my job to disprove your bullshit, it's your job to prove it first. That's what's called the affirmative position in a debate. The neg (that's me) provides a counterpoint. I've already challenged the basis upon which you are making your claims. You called me names and said I should prove your points for you. No thanks. You got this. So what's hypergamy again? When you marry m…
/r/MensRights07/05/13 06:13 AM
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GWW's video on benevolent sexism seems relevant here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VupEC0cAWo
/r/MensRights07/05/13 01:36 AM
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I used to BE a feminist back in the late 80s/early 90s, before it became abundantly clear that "my kind" were the problem, rather than part of the solution. Going to college during the "fun feminism" was awesome--friendly feminists, cooperating on projects, interested academics tearing down dichotomies, etc. But then shit started to get militant; gals no longer wanted to go out at night, they wanted to Take Back the Night; I stopped being a partner in tearing down dichotomies, I became an oppres…
/r/MensRights07/05/13 12:45 AM
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Traditionalist marriage being based on agrarian culture, and no linkage to hunter-gatherer societies Do you even know human history? Agrarian culture is the only culture that can have influenced human behavior today, because it's been in continuous use for the past 10,000 years. Every single culture that has survived and spread its influence enough to have survived into the historical period has been an agrarian culture. It replaced hunter-gatherer culture 12,000 years ago and not one single civ…
/r/MensRights07/05/13 12:35 AM
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That's not the point--according to your own citation of Type IV of what constitutes felonious, criminal genital mutilation, circumcision should be outlawed. So why isn't it? Because our religion says so? Not Christianity--there is no tradition of Christian circumcision prior to John Harvey Kellogg using it as a method to decrease sensitivity in the penis. It should also be pointed out that the medieval Jewish scholar Maimonides held the same position about circumcision, that it is supposed to "c…
/r/MensRights07/05/13 12:15 AM
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I agree--in fact, if we switched the genders, it would make it even more clear: a man stabs his girlfriend 29 times, slits her throat from ear to ear, and shoots her in the head his defense consists of lying under oath about his whereabouts, changing his story multiple times about what happened, and maligning the character of his victim by making insinuations about her sexual history A well-known men's rights activist comes to the accused's defense and with the contacts he has gained begins lobb…
/r/MensRights06/05/13 08:03 PM
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Yes--strenuously. "Traditional" marriage is just the unintended byproduct of a culture dependent on physical labor, for which men are better suited. A large part of American society has always been agrarian and rural; and while there was a slightly higher propensity towards urbanization and industrialization in Europe, the vast majority of the European population for a thousand years prior to the Industrial Revolution was also agrarian and rural. Livelihood was measured in productivity in physic…
/r/MensRights06/05/13 07:51 PM
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What the hell else do you call a "money for sex partnership"? Those aren't my words, they're yours. If you don't like the implications of those words, you only have yourself to blame.
/r/MensRights06/05/13 06:58 PM
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The fact that you call marriage a "money for sex partnership" tells me all I need to know about your view. Regardless of the fact that that makes your "spouse" a long-term contract prostitute, you're operating from such a skewed prospective that I don't know if you can understand that some people have sex with others without being paid for it. And no, there may be no qualitative substitution for sex via masturbation; but quality of sex wasn't a criterion for your argument, any more than quality …
/r/MensRights06/05/13 04:03 PM
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And in the category for most unnecessary post award, xoites! That's just what point I was making--it's illegal to even draw a drop of blood from girls' genitalia, but it's an enshrined right to cut off whole pieces of boys' genitalia. What I was asking you, that you assiduously avoided answering, is why is one illegal when the other isn't? What makes a penis less valuable than a vulva? Neither child can nor would consent; it should be child abuse in either situation. So what should we think abou…
/r/MensRights06/05/13 03:50 PM
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http://mobile.usnews.com/news/articles/2012/09/20/the-10-deadliest-jobs-in-america The ten deadliest jobs in the US all pit human safety against productivity. Without a willingness on the part of the workers to endure physical abuse for a paycheck, these businesses would not endure. Making new laws to force employers to make these jobs safer will not change the societal expectation of these men to suffer bodily to provide for their families. The businesses that treat their employees like beasts …
/r/MensRights06/05/13 03:38 PM
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I don't think you understand--men are the vast majority of preventable workplace deaths as well; we know this because every time there is a rise in the number of female deaths on the job, the feminist lobbying groups work hard to make those jobs safer. Men and boys working in these industries for years didn't make as much of an impact as the women who entered these professions. Take the Triangle Factory Fire; men and underage children had been suffering lost hands and desolate working conditions…
/r/MensRights06/05/13 05:56 AM
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If I can cut parts of one baby's genitals off and call it circumcision, why shouldn't I be able to cut parts of another baby's genitals without it being called mutilation? Remember that Type IV of the standard definition of FGM includes poking, scraping, and pricking the genitals without any excision of flesh. Not one drop of blood can be drawn from females' genitals without it being a felony. If it's legal and not mutilating to cut off pieces of baby A, at the very least it should be legal to c…
/r/MensRights06/05/13 05:44 AM
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So you're saying not to pull the foreskin back to extremes, or it will make the condom less effective? I hesitate to ask for pictures, but I might need a diagram of what's going on.
/r/MensRights05/05/13 03:49 PM
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I know you've already been ripped several new anii by other commenters, but I just want to put in my two cents--sure, Maslow had sex in with other base needs. But who said masturbation isn't part of sex? Even if we agree completely with your statement that we need sex to survive, it doesn't follow that we require another person to provide that sexual stimulus. It's nice--like a foamy latte in comparison with a lukewarm black coffee; but survival doesn't require foamy lattes, does it?
/r/MensRights05/05/13 03:44 PM
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You might be the exception; but the statistics are overwhelmingly clear. In fact, if the statistics were reversed: women dying ten years earlier, women dying due to workplace accidents 95% of the time, women committing suicide three times as often, women being forced to take medicine for being less active as a child and raised in a school system that privileged male hyperactive learning styles, such that at all levels of education women are doing worse and dropping out more than their male count…
/r/MensRights05/05/13 03:35 PM
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They're being oppressed in that they cannot fully exert their imperial desires to control the world...yet. They are close, though; and while the 80s and 90s for a time had a debate about whether intervention into foreign cultures was a good thing considering how badly the empires of the 19th century screwed up the developing world in an attempt to "westernize" it, that's been unable to stem the tide of "identification politics" where privileged western women use the suffering of women half a wor…
/r/MensRights05/05/13 03:14 PM
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Not very /MR relevant, except for the fact that the video portrays a woman who wants to settle down in a traditional relationship with a man. That poor patriarchally-oppressed girl--she must be liberated from her hope chest and lace curtains! How dare she want a man and not simply want to replace a man, like all good patriarchalists--I mean, feminists. :)
/r/MensRights05/05/13 06:07 AM
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Don't worry--your summation saved me from clicking through to give them more ad revenue. I'm all for hearing people out, but nonsense should never be encouraged monetarily.
/r/MensRights05/05/13 05:58 AM
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I understand your directions until you say "pull up the foreskin and continue rolling down the condom." Not having a foreskin, I can only wonder where you're rolling it; if the penis is erect, and the foreskin is retracted, and the glans is covered by the condom, the foreskin can't be slid back over the glans. Or are you saying that men shouldn't be putting on condoms without retracting their foreskins anyway? I would think that unless you have phimosis or a very long acroposthion, that sucker's…
/r/MensRights05/05/13 05:43 AM
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I would disagree--it's grounds for a divorce or at least a separation, but saying no to sex is a person's right and should not be taken away or made less potent simply by the passage of time. I'm not saying people can't be assholes and cock/clit-teases and refuse to allow their partners sexual fulfillment, but yeah--that's their right. You have a right to feel aggrieved, but I don't think you have a right to feel abused.
/r/MensRights05/05/13 05:34 AM
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The first part of Thunderf00t's series criticizing sarkeesian is all about her arguments; in this video, he's attacking her cries of victimhood for being shut out of the "boys club" of the gaming community. Not counting the fact that women make up 40% or more of gamers depending on the platform and individual game, and that especially for MMOs and online tournament shooters like the one Tf00t plays, gender isn't an issue either for players or plot. For many of these games, there isn't even much …
/r/MensRights05/05/13 04:48 AM
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I think Thunderf00t brings up an interesting point--sarkeesian not only said the exact same things in her TED talk that she said in the CNN interview, she wore the same outfit. That's not a good precedent to make, especially in this modern world of Internet sound bites. If she keeps on saying the same old thing over and over, regardless of how she dresses it up, it'll lose relevance, like when you cry wolf over and over. The reason why feminists switched from "sexist society" to Patriarchy Theor…
/r/MensRights05/05/13 04:37 AM
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Then it's a "good rape." ~ Eve Ensler
/r/MensRights04/05/13 10:19 PM
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Actually, feminism isn't here to stay--fewer women are calling themselves feminists than ever before, and those who do call themselves feminists are resorting to increasingly vicious and bizarre attack strategies to get their "message" across. Do you think the crazies at UofT live in a bubble, that their ideologies aren't a direct outgrowth of the radicalization of feminist dogma on the web and in academia? That's not something that anybody should say is "here to stay," any more than radical Isl…
/r/MensRights01/05/13 07:22 PM
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Not All Feminists Are Like That? Not a valid claim--radical feminists are part of and benefitted by the larger feminist movement, which has the same biases and negative attitudes towards men, simply differently expressed. Example: Radical feminists beat the ground and cry into bullhorns about male oppression; moderate feminists get laws passed because of the perception that men in power equals oppression, even when those men are bending over backwards for women already. The ethos is the same; on…
/r/MensRights01/05/13 04:03 PM
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Tl;dr--SRS has way too much time on its hands, and we're all dumb suckers for letting them whip up fake controversies and giving them more power to fuck shit up. Also, end moral about avoiding groupthink.
/r/MensRights01/05/13 07:03 AM
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Agreed. For those who don't understand because their male disposability goggles are still on, switch the genders--a man drugs his wife, ties her up, and then savages her vagina with a 10 inch knife until her genitals are destroyed beyond repair. Just because she was thinking about leaving him. Yeah. It's worse.
/r/MensRights01/05/13 06:37 AM
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Meanwhile feminists are screaming hate speech and misandry into bullhorns, threatening violence by beating sticks and clubs on the ground, and wearing masks to hide their identity when they break the law to pull fire alarms or block peaceful meetings to stifle dissent. But we're the aggressive ones, right?
/r/MensRights01/05/13 04:24 AM
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In this instance, I feel that women and feminists are only partly to blame--the government gets a cut of all support payments that they collect, and it's an automatic annuity for up to 18 years every time they set up a payment plan with the courts. Death, taxes, and child support. That's also why debtors' prisons are returning; many of them are private corporate prisons who give campaign contributions and kickbacks to local and state legislators so that they can get sweetheart no-bid contracts t…
/r/MensRights01/05/13 02:56 AM
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Post was deleted by mod, making it harder to garner any more support. Tone policing from one of the most violent, vitriolic, radicalized activist groups in the world = irony.
/r/MensRights01/05/13 02:13 AM
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You say "aggressive", I say "passionate".
/r/MensRights01/05/13 02:11 AM
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And I should point out to you that the personal wealth that people make may be immense compared to the average salary in the US, if we started at January 1, taxing the top 1% of earners at 100%, just took everything that they had right from their bank accounts, that would only last this overspending country until March. The top companies make a few billion, maybe a few hundred billion a year; most of that goes right back into maintaining top status, so they are relatively profit-neutral; the top…
/r/MensRights28/04/13 10:04 PM
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And you don't even seem to be listening to my point, though you are contributing to it. You said yourself that Denmark has state-owned businesses for much of its production; that is simply unsuitable for any country larger than Manhattan. So your initial salvo--"look at Denmark" makes no sense. It's comparing apples and hand grenades and wondering why hand grenades aren't juicier. Try harder--maybe Germany, which has a comparable demographics to the US and a similar sort of democratic socialism.…
/r/MensRights28/04/13 09:42 PM
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Did you not read where I said "comparatively"? Remember that I said Denmark had only 5 million people in the entire country. They produce 95 million barrels of crude oil every year. That's 19 barrels of crude for every man, woman, and child. And that's just oil--Denmark's main exports are industrial and agricultural. Not even the US at the height of the 1950s industrial boom had that level of productivity relative to population size. Now, do you have any data for your opinions, or are you incapa…
/r/MensRights27/04/13 11:21 PM
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Once again--if you're just going to insult me, that's fine; but it's not an argument. Maybe if you show some evidence for your position, you could have a valid point as we could have a discussion. But you would rather make fun of someone else than make your point clear, from your own behavior. If this is the representation you want libertarian socialism to have, keep on keeping on. And yes, there is absolute crap regulation in China right now; but there is also plenty of industrialization, which…
/r/MensRights27/04/13 11:11 PM
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And one more thing; it's easy to have a socialist economy in a place like Denmark--they have only 5 million people in their entire country, half of the population of NYC. And Denmark has a comparatively obscene amount of wealth in terms of exports, especially oil and foodstuffs. I'm sure that if America had comparatively immense oil fields and a vast empire of exports to hold up our economy, we too could be so prosperous. But since we have 300 million people and governments don't work so well st…
/r/MensRights27/04/13 05:06 PM
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Saying that not supporting X policy will mean supporting people dying on the streets is not an argument, it's an emotional appeal. I've already told you that capitalism's ability to ameliorate poverty is historically uncontested; socialism's ability to ameliorate poverty is highly suspect, as Europe and increasingly America are feeling the weight of now generational poverty being propped up by the state while capitalistic measures for ending poverty (ending patent restrictions, reducing cronyism…
/r/MensRights27/04/13 04:56 PM
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A) yes I have been poor, and while it wasn't easy, it taught me that nobody wants to be poor. However, if I could've stayed just poor enough without feeling the terrible effects of poverty like people on the dole in England or in the Soviet breadlines, I might not have desired to be anything but poor. Again--if you want more of something, you make it easier for people to be. Nobody said being poor was a great ride; but the burden of proof is not on ME to prove capitalism; we've already seen how …
/r/MensRights27/04/13 04:40 PM
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The Wikipedia article you reference is full of contradictions--how can l.socialists "respect personal property" when they are openly antagonistic to individual ownership of companies? How do they justify opposing the coercive aspects of capitalism by imposing an "elite" unilaterally in control of the means of production? The references for the article aren't much better, because the sources are for various movements like anarchism, anarcho-syndicalism, communism, Marxist theory, and a whole othe…
/r/MensRights27/04/13 06:23 AM
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ITT: people who didn't go to the linked Cafemom article and realize what he was saying was satire. ZOMG misogyny!!
/r/MensRights26/04/13 02:21 PM
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Upvoted for common sense--if people can't accept that "Fathers" are an integral part of "Families", that's what's wrong with society. Making the plight of fathers and their families invisible through gender-neutral language means either a watered-down advocacy of fathers and families, or a desire to trick new users into thinking the site is a traditional feminist mouthpiece in order to avoid ostracization. But ostracization is the point. We'll never be taken seriously if we aren't allowed to be …
/r/MensRights26/04/13 02:15 PM
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I'm also unsure of your definitions; if you're a libertarian, you're not a socialist. Libertarianism is a philosophy of freedom from government intervention and an ethic of personal responsibility; two things any socialist ethic based in the same solar system of Marxism/Leninism would want stamped out completely. I'm not saying you're trying to define yourself as if you were an anarchist fascist, but that's the same sort of contradiction I'm seeing--just a difference of degree.
/r/MensRights26/04/13 06:22 AM
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I would disagree with that definition--before 9/11, the most popular bogeyman on people's minds was neoliberal globalization in the form of international "free trade" organizations that would essentially gut actual free trade by creating "maquiladoras" or sweatshop-type factories in poorer countries in the trade union so that corporations could avoid paying workers fairly, then avoid paying taxes, tariffs, and fees on those "foreign" goods. Neoliberalism as an ideology wants a wedding of multina…
/r/MensRights25/04/13 02:47 PM
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I find it very offensive that feminists can come out with bullhorns, clubs, and violent mobs and be called "partiers" and "rabble," but when commenters online dare to call Big Red "menopausal," it's JUST AS BAD??? Seriously--this quote if nothing else shows how bankrupt their morals are: Many of the people who came for the protest have deep faith in Marxist/Trotskyite/Maoist revolutionary dogma. By definition, they’re not at all interested in finding peace in the war of the sexes- instead, their…
/r/MensRights25/04/13 02:18 AM
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While I love to see Mises articles on any reddit forum, I can see why you were downvoted--not MR relevant. This would be a better thing to post in /libertarian and maybe start a discussion about social justice in gender debates. Then you could cross post that discussion and get more traction for your ideas. There's a pretty heavy liberal/progressive bias in /MR, but that's just because the majority of users are young collegiate redditors who don't have much experience being they financer rather …
/r/MensRights24/04/13 07:22 AM
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That's where I disagree--there is only one guilty party in street harassment, the harasser. But street harassment doesn't necessitate street justice, and I am not some tough who can rough up supposed offenders, nor should I be shamed in an ad campaign for not doing so. If a woman is feeling harassed, she should be adult enough to pull out her phone and call the police; better yet, take a picture of the offender and then call the police. Women are not children that they must be defended by white …
/r/MensRights22/04/13 01:10 PM
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The child is happening because that will give the "silly girl" more power over her boss. Notice how every single upvoted comment is "lawyer up and take him to the cleaners, or you'll go public and ruin his life!" That's not the advice for someone with no power. This is western gynocracy in action--he doesn't keep it in his pants, has everything to lose; she doesn't keep it in her pants, has everything to gain. Wrap it up, fellas. Every time.
/r/MensRights22/04/13 12:41 PM
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Um--no, I'm not. You're trying to make the claim that your feelings about a particular public interaction are more important than what actually happened, which I have already pointed out is bullshit. Unlike you, I don't believe you have to be a woman to be intolerably hypersensitive. Harassment isn't whatever you think it is, it's criminal behavior and should be held to the same standards as any other charge of public indecency.
/r/MensRights22/04/13 01:08 AM
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False--the ad says nothing whatsoever about the nature of "street harassment," except that it is "unwanted public attention"--I actually added to that assumption by adding "sexual attention" to the definition. The ad simply wants to create a bogeyman out of an individual's subjective experience and then task all men with policing themselves and everybody else. I can only imagine a guy wolf-whistling to a friend of his he sees on the street, and a random male passerby will have to stop him and ve…
/r/MensRights22/04/13 12:59 AM
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Men have the privilege of taking street harassment lightly. Yeah--I'm sure being mugged, rolled, carjacked, curb-stomped, and all the other ways men are assaulted on the streets every goddamned day are just our "privilege." I feel so lucky to be so privileged.
/r/MensRights20/04/13 07:43 AM
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Are you comparing women to children? Because the fact that we have to have a kiddy-infographic from assholes like Jessica Valenti that treat issues of consent as if they were so stupid a child could figure them out seems to point to the fact that we DO need to treat both men AND women like children. We certainly can't treat them like rational adults capable of making decisions for themselves, because it's apparently up to the person asking for consent to decide whether or not the person giving c…
/r/MensRights20/04/13 07:38 AM
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It's "complimentary", and that's a load of horse shit. How is one supposed to know what is and isn't acceptable sexual attention when the rules are different depending on each and every individual? Are men just supposed to be mind readers and know when attention is unwanted? It would be a better policy to never give any woman any attention ever, just to clear up the confusion. No more asking women out on dates, no more compliments on attire, no more opening doors, no more flirting, and just for …
/r/MensRights20/04/13 12:56 AM
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Already had this debate in another thread--a feeling on your part doesn't equal an obligation or an action on my part. Just because you feel "threatened" doesn't mean there was actually anything threatening you--you might be paranoid, hallucinatory, or over sensitive. You might have misinterpreted a common phrase because you don't speak the language, or you might just be a huge/tiny individual and you think that somehow makes other people responsible for how you feel. But it doesn't. Ever. Claim…
/r/MensRights20/04/13 12:50 AM
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"Unwanted sexual attention" is left purposefully ambiguous so that women who simply "feel" threatened can cry harassment regardless of the behavior of the man.
/r/MensRights19/04/13 03:13 PM
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Because the letter ISN'T addressed to Paul--it's another veiled plea for moderation from covert feminist sympathizers. They would rather us be one voice among many, perfectly harmless, rather than speakers of an unavoidable truth that upsets the gender hierarchy in place today.
/r/MensRights19/04/13 03:08 PM
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This isn't "changing gender expectations," it's just gender appropriation. It's women saying "we own our gender-specific clothes and we own yours too." There is nothing wrong with a woman dressing how she chooses in today's society; but men are already not allowed to choose how they dress, and this model takes even male clothing away from men, leaving them nothing with which to be recognizably masculine. Her gender "bending" is really gender annexation; notice how one of her aspirations is to be…
/r/MensRights18/04/13 03:00 PM
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Especially considering that the new backstory of the Amazons is closer to the historical accounts of the actual Amazons. What this writer decries as "twisting" the history of her folk heroes is actually more accurately representing those heroes. Technically, the twisting of the narrative was actually the whitewashing of previous storylines.
/r/MensRights18/04/13 02:41 PM
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Poetic justice--drug her, tie her down, forcibly castrate her against her will. Destroy the organs afterwards so there can be no chance she can save them. Tit for tat.
/r/MensRights18/04/13 05:49 AM
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But don't you dare tell a woman she can't spend an entire afternoon pampering herself at the spa, or engaging in "retail therapy" by buying a bunch of clothes and shoes. No--those aren't stupid little girlie dress-up behaviors, they're "therapy." My therapy has a wireless controller. Suck it.
/r/MensRights14/04/13 07:05 PM
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Pre-Enlightenment misogyny is very well-documented. The Second Sex, A Brief History of Misogyny, really any historical volume on women covers the topic adequately. Even a cursory glance at an American history textbook can show you the vast gains in property rights, workplace equality, and representation in society that women achieved in the 19th and 20th centuries. If you're going to dispute the mainstream viewpoint on the topic, it would help if you had some more specific points to make.
/r/MensRights14/04/13 06:53 PM
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I know I'm probably gonna get some flak for saying this, but I think the MRM owes a great deal to feminism. You see, feminism started out as an institution to correct the perception that women were useless people, good for cooking, cleaning, fucking, and other sorts of manual labor. And that was a perception that they corrected in western society, and women's rights activists are correcting that perception in developing societies as well. Now it's come time to correct the perception that MEN are…
/r/MensRights14/04/13 03:43 PM
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Very true--and notice that the tumbr feminist doesn't actually cite any examples of the above from any nationally or even regionally (or hell, locally) known feminist organization. That's because these issues are not on feminist charters, they are not a part of their mission statements, and the assumption that all these issues fall under "patriarchy" is a fallacious claim that allows feminists to claim victim status just because they aren't the 1% (apex fallacy). And from our perspective, having…
/r/MensRights14/04/13 03:25 PM
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I don't see the ethics in making only one man pay for one woman's choice. It is more ethical to spread that burden out among the majority of taxpayers so that none of them are individually unduly burdened by someone else's choice. Forcing one man to do what all of society should do (provide a safety net) is the unethical choice.
/r/MensRights14/04/13 01:49 AM
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Exactly! I am of the firm opinion that the feminists who rail against patriarchy are not actually wanting to get rid of it (because it doesn't exist in the west), but because it's a paper tiger, a phantom menace to keep the troops fighting. It's the gender war's smear of "terrorist".
/r/MensRights13/04/13 03:12 PM
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If what's depicted in the video is the end goal of the men's rights movement, count me out. I don't want to hate and be hated, I just want my own human dignity. Hateful comments should be thumbed down, unliked, downvoted, whatever. Starve the trolls.
/r/MensRights10/04/13 04:13 AM
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Wow--"both sides of the issue"; does she mean to say that sometimes, rapists have a valid point in raping other people by using physical violence to coerce them into sex? What. The. Fuck.
/r/MensRights08/04/13 01:12 PM
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The list you've linked has already been addressed in a previous /MR post, but I'll give my two cents on why you shouldn't think that list is very good at all: "Privilege" as it ought to be defined must be backed up with facts, data, statistics, and proof that any perceived privilege is in fact intended and not just a consequence of rational individuals' choices (such as dress/hair length choices, which have more to do with fashion than with legal proscription). The fact that the very first, supp…
/r/MensRights07/04/13 11:16 PM
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I don't think you are understanding the video--clearly she isn't saying to kill all men, because she puts the statement in quotation marks and doesn't even bother to dignify it with a response. If anything, she's calming down--when Femitheist started her ranting, it was bizarrely radical, and she was pretty universally condemned on all sides, mra and feminist.
/r/MensRights07/04/13 09:13 PM
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If all Femitheist talked about were ideas like what she says in this video, I would support her 100% and I would probably still call myself a feminist. But her ideology doesn't stop at the third world, unlike what she wants others to think.
/r/MensRights07/04/13 09:10 PM
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I think Butler's theories can be helpful when they are removed from the feminist scholarship they are intrinsically associated with. She still promotes a feminist vision of gender hierarchy, and that's troubling. Somebody should apply her own methodology to her ideas and make them more gender-neutral.
/r/MensRights07/04/13 01:10 PM
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Warren Farrell dared to talk about the problems facing men and boys. That's all. You'd think they would remember that he served on the board of the NYC chapter of NOW, but they have completely turned on someone who supposedly was one of their own, just like Dr. Fiamengo. Disgraceful.
/r/MensRights07/04/13 12:24 PM
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Upvoted x 50--that innocent little admission at the beginning that yes, having the same number of rapes and MTPs would indeed be shocking to the general public, so that's why we didn't include it! Also, the sample questions that they give don't even apply to forcible rape, but coercive rape, i.e., that the victim was only consenting due to being pressured. Surely no man could ever be pressured into sex against his will! Absolutely atrocious behavior on the part of the CDC.
/r/MensRights07/04/13 02:50 AM
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The feminism I see discussed online and with others and that is promoted in society is that of pushing equality of the sexes. disagrees with It has gained that because of the perception that MRAs care about men's rights instead of women's, because many of them do not accept that women are significantly the underprivileged sex, and because they seem to be unable to recognize certain aspects of their privilege. Pick a social metric, any one, and tell me in which of them women are "significantly th…
/r/MensRights06/04/13 01:38 PM
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Not very interesting to me--just another oversensitive internet justice-warrior who thinks that insensitive comments from 14 year olds (or those with the maturity level of 14 year olds) constitutes the broader culture at large. It would be silly, if the person wasn't serious. And who would've thought it would be so hard to write an entire comment without any reference to gender? I just did. Sounds like the writer was just overly impressed by a feminist-y communications class.
/r/MensRights05/04/13 12:01 AM
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You mean the 70's? As in, 40 years ago? At the time those protests were going on, the Civil Rights act wasn't even 10 years old. Most kids alive today at UofT have never even known a world without widespread institutional feminism at all levels of society and government.
/r/MensRights04/04/13 11:29 PM
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But of course, UofT has been "quite accommodating" to the Men's Issues group. Look at all this accommodation!
/r/MensRights04/04/13 11:25 PM
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Only a small proportion of children who are circumcised are Jewish. You're right--but doesn't that make the whole circumcision thing even more specious, considering that relatively few of the practitioners of the ritual even consider it a ritual? I mean, at least Jews can say somebody told them to do it; the majority of us just do it because we hate sexuality. And if you're against organized religion that's fine. But I don't see that it's relevant to this discussion. It's perfectly possible to b…
/r/MensRights29/03/13 11:29 PM
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Way to derail by trying to question my intentions; you've said nothing that actually addresses my previous comment, you've just tried to call me irrational or something. What, are you going to call me threatening next? Maybe I'm being an emotional terrorist because I pointed out your bias towards the woman. You just keep on derailing--I've already made my statement.
/r/MensRights21/03/13 11:28 PM
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That isn't an alternative opinion. That is the mainstream "rape culture" opinion. You want an alternative opinion? Over-privileged Athlete Douchenozzle Opinion GO! The guys who fucked and fucked around with a passed out girl knew what they were doing was wrong, and they did it anyway. They reveled in it, took pictures of it, and had a fucking blast, YOLO. It's rape because the girl was dead-drunk and nobody can claim she could consent. Also, it was fucking wrong. The guys are assholes and sex of…
/r/MensRights21/03/13 01:21 AM
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I like how your entire concern is on the feelings of the 'stay at home wife and mommy' (how cute!), and not at all on the guy who has to work two jobs just for her to stay at home and be cute. Unless her "stay at home wife and mommy" occupation includes compensatory work that justifies her not making a single cent for the family, then she's the one in the wrong, not him.
/r/MensRights21/03/13 01:13 AM
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I disagree--people should not be allowed to shit all over online spaces while MRAs should just meekly take it and turn the other cheek. Equal rights deserve equal fight, and if someone disrespects me or shits all over my blog, I'm going to call them out on it. In my opinion, NOT saying anything is the real asshole move--you're both not standing up for yourself and you're not educating others that you will stand up for yourself. It's our job to speak up for ourselves, and this guy did so--good on…
/r/MensRights20/03/13 09:14 AM
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Holy shit--I was open to the thought of "geek feminism" until I saw that the list started out with negative appraisals of CS and just got worse from there. I haven't seen that much haughty female frowning since the "Lips that Touch Liquor Shall Not Touch Ours" spoof.
/r/MensRights20/03/13 09:05 AM
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Oh--they really do.
/r/MensRights20/03/13 08:51 AM
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Ouch--I felt that burn coming from across the room. If there's one type of person who can't last in a competitive environment, it's someone who can't back up their arrogance with real skill. I can already tell from her site that she's going the Femitheist "evangelical" route; in another news cycle, she'll be a full-blown radfem and threatening to commit facebook suicide because of the terrible menz.
/r/MensRights20/03/13 08:46 AM
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What's really funny is that she and the guy she is responding to not only talk about sexual topics that "make her blush while at PyCon", but they also joke about drug use: @adriarichards I was thinking little bags of herbs in my waistband ... and then she and the guy call out commenters as being "threatening" and "trolls" when they point out that she and the guy are doing THE EXACT SAME THING that she busted the other guys for.
/r/MensRights20/03/13 08:35 AM
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The problem is the assumption of there being something tangible about "offense" in the first place; this video by Penn Jillette is really telling in this instance. Also there's Stephen Fry swearing. Really, being "offended" is doing nothing more than retreating to one's fainting couch. It's nothing.
/r/MensRights20/03/13 08:27 AM
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Seconded--who decided on italics?
/r/MensRights18/03/13 09:57 PM
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Is that person just a fuck doll, to be used because the word "yes" came out of its mouth? Well, yes. That's kind of what consent is. Even if you and I find it morally repugnant to have sex with someone who blatantly is not enjoying it, that has no bearing on the fact that if you don't want to have sex, you don't say you want to have sex. Does the term "coerced consent" mean nothing to you? Apparently not. That's dumb--you could be locked up in the back of a police car and told that if you don't …
/r/MensRights08/03/13 07:23 AM
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Hey hey--NSFW tag, come on! /s
/r/MensRights08/03/13 02:20 AM
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They're both right, and they're both wrong: Hannity's right that armed people generally are less likely to be the victims of violent crime; he's wrong in that women are more likely to be the victims of violent crime. They are more likely (just barely) to be raped, but their rapist is more likely to be a friend, partner or family member, so they will be less likely to shoot their rapist. Maxwell is right that we can teach people not to rape (shocking, right?). But not along gender lines--we need …
/r/MensRights08/03/13 02:18 AM
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You're not giving any thought to the article's gray area, which is "do what you need to do." It's tacit approval, but substantive disapproval. What do you do when someone says "yes" but isn't into it? Is that person just a fuck doll, to be used because the word "yes" came out of its mouth? Of course not--consent, like all language, is both spoken and unspoken. To base all discussions of meaningful consent (which is to say, enjoyment of sex) on spoken language leaves out the vast majority of unsp…
/r/MensRights08/03/13 02:02 AM
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I doubt it--feminists will respect their in-group bias and "let" Fiamengo speak. Mainly because she's a woman. Had she been a man, she might not have even been allowed to have the talk; "safety issues" and protecting the public and all that.
/r/MensRights08/03/13 01:51 AM
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"The belief that women are somehow a naturally weaker gender is a socially constructed myth, which of course is completely false." (around the 19 minute mark) This is really all you need to tear down her fundamental premise, because um... yeah. Women are a naturally weaker gender. It's been proven scientifically... beyond any doubt whatsoever. This doesn't mean anything though, unless you believe that tropes = reality, which is where her real fallacy lies. Her examples all come from games whose …
/r/MensRights08/03/13 01:41 AM
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I think people are conflicted themselves on the subject of an international Men's Day. I read the UN page about the IMD and like most others, I found it to be relatively toothless--saying a bunch of things that men should do for society, but not much about what society should do for men. International Women's Day supporters have begun collaborating with this Billion Rising (or something like that) movement where supposedly like the Million Man March a billion women will "rise up" to throw off op…
/r/MensRights05/03/13 09:30 PM
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I want to see more stuff like this in the subreddit.
/r/MensRights05/03/13 09:21 PM
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At least they didn't try to marginalize his sacrifice by referring to him only by his job title or something.
/r/MensRights05/03/13 09:20 PM
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And cis-gendered straight men--you don't have to be gay or trans to dress up in drag; it's just for dressing up in feminine clothing and adopting feminine traits for shits and giggles. Eddie Izzard (a straight, married man) dressed up for years as an "executive transvestite," he used to call it. Cis/trans distinctions have nothing to do with transvestitism, which only applies to clothing.
/r/MensRights05/03/13 09:08 PM
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What? What?? Did Curtis not get paid to bear her breasts? Did those movie producers hold her down and rip off her shirt for the cameras without her permission? Did she not receive hundreds of thousands, if not millions of dollars more in her contract, which she and her agent most likely negotiated over for months along with any number of other riders, stipulations, exclusions, and emendations? And now, simply because she is offended by the use of the term "boob," we're supposed to see her as a v…
/r/MensRights04/03/13 11:18 PM
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That's why courts of law focus on action, not just on intent; she may not have intended consciously to kill him, but by knocking him unconscious with a 2x4 she was acting in such a way that death would be a predictable outcome, as it often is in head wounds where the person is knocked entirely unconscious. Look at the video again--he goes rag-doll limp at the hit and even smacks his head on the concrete, while she just throws the potential murder weapon away as if she had just completed a job we…
/r/MensRights03/03/13 02:19 AM
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Being judged as an attractive object to possess or throw away does not constitute a "positive" portrayal of men. Seriously--switch the genders and tell me whether these are "positive" statements to be making: You start to see the spots in yourself that a woman can fill. And you shop for women, and try women on and enjoy them. You enjoy women. Because you enjoy yourself. And life is full and secure like it wasn't before. Seriously, what the fuck is "positive" about this?
/r/MensRights03/03/13 01:55 AM
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I would think that hitting someone square in the head such that they are immediately incapacitated and unresponsive is attempted murder, what wikipedia tells me is homicidio doloso: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_(Brazilian_law) ...with the rationale that the woman in the video is "taking the risk of killing as being a predictable consequence of... her acts". Hitting someone in the forehead with a 2x4 is obviously a potentially lethal blow; even police batons, which have far less heft than …
/r/MensRights03/03/13 01:42 AM
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What part of create separate paid events didn't you understand you ignorant toad? The part where the Olympics isn't a separate paid event. When you and everybody else watched the 2012 Olympics, either in London itself or on TV, you paid for a cable TV subscription. You didn't pay for a manscription, and you didn't have to pay by gender or by event. You got to watch the whole thing, and you watched what you wanted to watch. Even if you went to the Olympic Village and watched events live, you stil…
/r/MensRights03/03/13 01:21 AM
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How do you think whites learned to hate blacks? All those strong black slaves, twice as big as their white masters sometimes, and suddenly there's a fear that the slaves will have sex with their wives and daughters. Go go gadget ethnic cleansing. People don't need to have much reason to hate others, but insecurity does as well as anything. Hell--the US interned 100,000 American citizens in WWII just because they looked like the people who attacked Pearl Harbor and we were worried that Japanese s…
/r/MensRights01/03/13 04:21 AM
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I don't know much about poetry, but this video about an Irish man confronting his political leaders about their complicity in the Catholic sex abuse scandals is terrifying in its raw power: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i44dv1KMPsM
/r/MensRights01/03/13 04:05 AM
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You're pigeonholing her. Funny--I thought I was pointing out how she was a hypocrite. I never called her a feminist nor thought she really was--it would have been icing on the cake, but it was more important for me that she was a woman, a CEO, and a beneficiary of her company's money to make her work more flexible for raising her child. That, combined with her refusal to allow other women in her company to do what she did with the company's money, makes her a hypocrite. It CERTAINLY doesn't make…
/r/MensRights01/03/13 03:52 AM
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I'm curious what you mean by disadvantaged healthcare opportunities. I don't know why you're being downvoted--honest questions deserve honest answers. Besides the obvious explicitly gendered healthcare legislation in the US and Canada, health care initiatives which give preferential funding to cancers that primarily affect women can be both an explicit and implicit discrimination--though prostate cancer kills as many men as breast cancer kills women, it's more salacious to spread the word "breas…
/r/MensRights01/03/13 03:31 AM
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This isn't about the CEO, this is about hypocrisy--it's like Donald Trump coming out with a sexual objectification awareness memo at the same time he's the driving force behind the Miss America pageants. I have no problem with CEOs, people working long hours, or people working flex-time or working in non-traditional situations. What I do have a problem with is a CEO who works long hours using her own company's money to make it easier to raise her children, then turning around and denying other p…
/r/MensRights01/03/13 02:20 AM
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1) Men are the recipients of power from the patriarchy they create and sustain. 2) Men hold themselves down/back using the power from the patriarchy they create and sustain. 3) Therefore, men negate the power they create and sustain from the patriarchy by using the patriarchy. Is this the lesson I'm supposed to get from this?
/r/MensRights27/02/13 03:09 AM
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Flex-time, equal pay for unequal work, and relaxed standards for women with children have been swept under the mainstream media rug for years as causing numerous office problems. This article highlights the extent to which the hypocrisy has metastasized, where a female CEO who pays to have a nursery built at her work bans flexible opportunities for others.
/r/MensRights27/02/13 03:06 AM
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I'm not talking about taking credit as "did you know I invented the internet??" I'm talking about being proud of being a man, because of all the things men have achieved, like if there was a Men's History Month and we got treated to 10 minute montages of men's inventions during the dead spaces of news shows. We could point to that and say "yes, men as a group HAVE been influential in the development of society!" That is one thing we simply cannot do, either in the classroom, in the public sphere…
/r/MensRights27/02/13 02:26 AM
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One can be both a Women's Rights Activist and a Men's Rights Activist. The difference between being an WRA and a feminist should be obvious.
/r/MensRights26/02/13 10:29 AM
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To be fair, that is what we do; we ask "what about the men?" Feminists have turned this into a joke, "what about de menzzzzz!" I find this hilarious, since feminism was founded upon the principle of asking "what about women?" in every space possible--what about women in government? what about women in advertising? what about women in aeronautics? what about women in science? Feminists lobbied and wrote legislation and changed the entire social and political framework of our country to rectify an…
/r/MensRights26/02/13 10:23 AM
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Because like all areas of western industrialized life, the relatively few advances pioneered by women have to be maniacally applauded while the relatively immense advances pioneered by men must at best go unrecognized and at worst be a sign of how much those men must hate women. Why else do you think women have to demand from the mainstream media that motherhood be taken seriously, that housewifery is such a difficult job, that domestic chores are oh-so-onerous, and that slow paced flex-time emp…
/r/MensRights26/02/13 08:54 AM
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Honestly, it just sounds like you don't want to watch women compete. That has nothing to do with men's rights; just because any industry "was built on men" doesn't mean that only men should be allowed to compete in it. Fuck it--if that's the case, let's take back all those women's gold medals, because the Olympics is an industry built on men. Let's get rid of all those women's sports victories internationally, because who really cares if the US succeeds at sports unless men do it? It's not like …
/r/MensRights25/02/13 12:32 AM
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Thank you--exactly! Women playing sports has nothing to do with men, men's rights, or the MRM/MRHM unless it negatively impacts men. When men have to fight women with a ridiculous handicap, or when the UFC division titles are given to female fighters over male fighters even though they couldn't win against their male counterparts in a straight fight, THEN I'd say there's inequality there. But simply having more people fighting in the UFC (regardless of gender) is not MR-relevant. In my opinion, …
/r/MensRights25/02/13 12:18 AM
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Yes, I'm misrepresenting things when "the women" are the ones invading the supposedly male bastion of the UFC. If you haven't been watching the MRA blogosphere randomly lose its shit over the past few days with the female-UFC thing, that's your problem. Maybe you should stop getting all your information from a Reddit feed.
/r/MensRights24/02/13 08:56 AM
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You're assuming that he is going to associate his oppression with feminism Yeah, the kid will--because the kid doesn't live in the 1850s, he lives in 2013, when girls can do anything they want and boys can't even reliably get a law passed saying we can't cut on their little baby-dicks for shits and giggles. despite the fact that strict male gender stereotyping long predated feminism That "strict male gender stereotyping" also included hefty amounts of privilege for women, such as: the privilege …
/r/MensRights24/02/13 08:50 AM
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I don't see why MRAs are getting bugs up their asses about this--we have female divisions of boxing, judo, fencing, and just about every other sport out there. If women want to compete at their level, they should be able to. The UFC is not forcing male fighters to fight with one hand tied behind their back, nor are they awarding female fighters double points every time they fight a male contender. As far as I can tell, there aren't even any plans to have a female fighter go up against a male fig…
/r/MensRights24/02/13 07:59 AM
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It sounds like you haven't read the sidebar yet. All your answers are there.
/r/MensRights24/02/13 07:52 AM
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I don't think it's male "preference" that is driving the drop-out trend--I think it's the growing irrelevance of the college degree. As colleges become luxury resorts for women to pad their egos and their useless grad-school resumes with just a few more extracurricular BS activities, guys who get a 2-year degree or a technical degree in something well-paying can actually get somewhere in life other than in debt with a useless piece of paper. Add to that the fact that the supposed "wage gap" in h…
/r/MensRights24/02/13 07:39 AM
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You hit the nail on the head with the child-tantrum thing. I have been spending time at a friend's house more often lately, and I notice that his daughter is an absolute terror; she refuses to do anything anyone tells her to do, and whenever somebody threatens to punish her, she cries insipidly (not actual crying, but the snivelly-whiny-screamy kind). My friend has actually said he's stopped trying to punish her, because whenever he does it sounds like she's dying from abuse and he can't do it i…
/r/MensRights24/02/13 06:08 AM
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Not just that--radfem hub, like other rallying points for the crazy wing of feminists, was a good place for people to get a one-stop-shop of all that they needed to know about the Gender War. Now, with radfem hub gone, they will have to search elsewhere for opinions that agree with theirs; of course, the well-connected will be able to cobble together some blogs and RSS feeds, but the rank-and-file radfems will be without their daily dose of institutionalized misogyny. I feel this is a welcome se…
/r/MensRights24/02/13 05:59 AM
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"Find a way out of" is not the same as "fix themselves". And all it does is shift the blame of "who broke men?" from men "themselves" to "US gender-feminist 'conditioning'". The point is still not being addressed, though--why do men need to change again? Society may need to change, but that has nothing to do with men, as politicians clearly tell crowds of cheering degree-holding women funding and supporting their political campaigns. Men have neither the access to political power that women do (…
/r/seduction24/02/13 05:40 AM
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Absolute truth--I say let women have all these laws and rules and restrictions all to themselves. Of course, at some point feminists will find a way to outlaw being male altogether, but I figure I at least have another five or ten years of peace and quiet before I'm shipped off to the male ghettos.
/r/MensRights10/02/13 09:18 PM
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Too bad for you--this will no doubt be a boon for getting more money into the family court system, which means more money for cash-strapped government organizations, which means the policy will most likely be expanded to all of Canada eventually, and perhaps all of the west. Legislators are making it easier and easier for men to go their own way.
/r/MensRights10/02/13 08:38 PM
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Fuck me sideways, you're right. If the government forced women to give up their sexual property to a man regardless of whether or not she married him after two years of unregulated cohabitation, women would be rioting in the streets and calling for armed rebellion. Hell--some women were calling for armed rebellion just because a SINGLE COP said a SINGLE WOMAN shouldn't dress like a "slut."
/r/MensRights10/02/13 08:34 PM
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De Jong said the package is intended to modernize the province's Family Relations Act for first time in 30 years by making it less adversarial and easier to understand. is entirely contradictory to "Being a common-law spouse now, if these recommendations are enacted, is no longer protection against your property," she said. How does making an UNMARRIED individual LESS protected by family court law create a LESS adversarial law?? I feel like I'm taking crazy pills.
/r/MensRights10/02/13 08:27 PM
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I like this video--frankly, I think that women would enjoy their relationships more if they did things like this for their partners, and if men required their partners to do these sorts of things for them.
/r/MensRights10/02/13 08:22 PM
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Truth--regressives and traditionalists are just as bad as PUAs and others; they don't seek to actually improve the lot of anyone's lives, they just want to get their slice of the corruption pie. In this case, what Willet says about women's "traditional" privileges is telling: But it (the ERA) would have taken away a lot of the rights and benefits women then possessed such as the right to be exempt from the military and the right of a wife to be supported by her husband. "The right of a wife to b…
/r/MensRights04/02/13 02:28 AM
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The gap is nowhere near so prominent--many studies still do not include men as capable of being victims of sexual assault (here in the US, for instance, the FBI considered forcible rape a solely female-victim crime until 2012), and data on male victims of sexual assault and rape in prison are almost never included. The actual breakdown, including female-on-male statutory rape (which is almost not even considered a crime by today's media) is more like 60%/40% female/male.
/r/MensRights04/02/13 02:15 AM
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I can see difficulties in privacy issues, but frankly--if you're at a public school nowadays, you're already on a CCTV system, either passively recording student activity or actively being watched by security personnel. It's a frankly indispensable failsafe when dealing with internal disciplinary issues; got conflicting stories--go to the tape! Student claims harassment in class, what does the tape say? If the issue has been stopped, I would imagine that it has been stopped by the teachers thems…
/r/MensRights04/02/13 01:07 AM
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I'm not sure--Title IX was its own ball of wax, being a way for the federal government to bring the hammer down universally on sex discrimination by threatening to cut off federal funding. The reason why the "Dear Colleague" letter has been foisted upon the population is with the unilateral decision that federally-funded education is a privilege, not a right, and thus can be taken away without ever actually dipping into "legal" territory of criminal proceedings. The OCR was apparently not aware …
/r/MensRights01/02/13 08:33 AM
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Obviously, you should clear it with the principal, school board, whatever; but make it a safety issue--you want to make sure that if anybody starts a fight or has an issue in class, that it has been documented. You don't even have to make it about yourself, either; parents have been wanting to spy on their children for decades. If you do in fact catch children acting up in class, it'll just be icing on the cake to replay the fucking tape so that their parents can see them in action. None of this…
/r/MensRights01/02/13 06:32 AM
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Not quite--if the university receives any federal funding at all, or is involved in the board of regents of any collegiate system, they can still be held accountable under Title IX. If they receive one Pell grant, one subsidy, one lunch program, even if it's not at their school but within the same system, they are liable to follow the law. In reality, NOBODY can "do whatever they want," especially in the west.
/r/MensRights01/02/13 06:24 AM
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I wouldn't say that men are at a disadvantage, but that society is sort of developmentally disadvantaged right now. All the things that grow a society--infrastructure, manufacturing, agriculture, construction--are waning, rather than waxing. Even though we have more people and are better equipped to have more people than ever before, we are no longer moving from relative poverty to relative wealth; if anything, we are the Hilton generation, moving from relative wealth to relative poverty. It wil…
/r/MensRights30/01/13 11:21 PM
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But isn't it a ton and a half of WTF that the term "dudebro" is basically a slur? How much do you have to hate everything even potentially masculine that this would become a viable insult in your mind?
/r/MensRights30/01/13 11:13 PM
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Responding is anger. Not responding is passive aggression. Responding logically is abuse. Responding pathetically is being a Nice Guy<sup>CR.</sup> Responding violently is proving patriarchalism. It seems the only correct move is not to play.
/r/MensRights30/01/13 11:10 PM
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One solution to all the problems being raised here: record everything. Don't just lobby to get a school camera put in the room, put your own in the room, on a tripod, so everyone can see it. Tell everybody on the first day that it is there to catch whatever goes on in class, so if kids think they can act up and it'll be your word against theirs, the tape will be used against them. Outside of class, but still at school--record everything. Get a digital recorder with a lapel mike, or at the very l…
/r/MensRights30/01/13 10:37 PM
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...except these are public universities, operating as state institutions with state funding, who have to follow state rules or they lose their funding, hence their requirement to follow Title IX of the Education Amendments Acts of 1972 in the first place.
/r/MensRights30/01/13 12:38 AM
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Thanks for your comments. I would just like to clarify that I am writing this piece for a women’s rights-focused blog, hence why I focus on the issues facing women involved in the criminal justice system. I never once said that men do not face issues in the criminal justice system. The system is not perfect for males or females. I am not addressing the issues men face in this article because this is a feminist blog. Feminists always say "feminism addresses men's issues too!" Well, here's the rea…
/r/MensRights29/01/13 12:09 AM
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Okay--I really really want to talk about your actual opinion about the video, but I just have to respond to this blatant horseshit: And yes, I still think many people in this subreddit need to MAN THE FUCK UP. You may equate this with all the negative connotations that feminists have jammed down our throats for decades, but I do not. To man up is not to make oneself a lesser human being and squelch his emotions for fear of being labeled feminine. It means to be proactive rather than reactive. It…
/r/MensRights28/01/13 11:57 PM
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I give you evidence that my original predictions were true, highlight the fact that instead of engaging in good-faith debate you are attempting to smear me as "womanly" and therefore not to be taken seriously, all while you have yet to disprove my original assertion that you are attempting to deprioritize a violent assault caught on camera simply because the man being assaulted is not important enough for you (or anybody else on this sub, in your opinion), and your point is, what? That MRAs can …
/r/MensRights28/01/13 05:09 AM
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Yeah--Kinsey never condoned sexually abusive behavior, but that didn't stop him from including self-reported behavior about sexual abuse. But aside from the "cleaning" of data that more recent methods have debunked, the self-reporting that Kinsey relied upon (and which many other studies rely upon to this day) is notoriously unreliable and difficult to predict. Just look at election polling today--the polls resemble the resulting elections only insomuch as they avoid making any claims at all, li…
/r/MensRights28/01/13 04:56 AM
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Here's a useful rundown; tl;dr: Kinsey didn't differentiate between observable behavior and self-reporting, and notoriously allowed the self-reporting of child molesters, rapists, and other extreme data sets to mix with the data he received from everybody else, which besides being a serious violation of scientific ethics skewed his samples in ways that corrupted his research. The reason why he was successful at researching gall wasps is because gall wasps are relatively homogeneous; his "attempt…
/r/MensRights27/01/13 07:07 PM
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Already searched the interwebs--no police reports, a few "funny news" and joke sites here and here and here and here, just like I said. One news report that was deleted soon after it was posted. No charges filed, woman is at liberty after committing assault and battery on camera. And what do you tell me? MAN THE FUCK UP. Your body is not filled with estrogen and progesterone, so stop behaving like it is. Yes, because seeing assault and battery and not immediately deprioritizing it because the vi…
/r/MensRights27/01/13 06:55 PM
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This woman clearly committed assault here and crossed the line. But, I actually believe when a person engages in a behavior that puts them in harm's way, they should bear some accountability for the outcome of events. That's a loaded statement brimming with implications, especially in the context of this subreddit, but I stand by it as a matter of common sense. So, the guy was being a complete asshole from the get-go. Great job blaming the victim of what you admit is felony assault. But the reas…
/r/MensRights26/01/13 07:02 AM
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No, gender has everything to do with it--because if the roles had been reversed, if she had been trying to get a pack of smokes while he was making up his mind, and then he proceeded to mouth off and then mace her, we'd be watching it on the evening news alongside a mugshot of the guy's face as the police would have already hunted his ass down. As it is, we are literally sitting here looking at a felony assault video and your response is to say, what--"can't catch 'em all!"? We got the shit on v…
/r/MensRights26/01/13 06:54 AM
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Here was my comment contribution; let's see how long it stays up there: I don't quite understand your clarifications about high-need offense "disproportionately affect[ing] women"--since women are already charged less often for the same crimes and sentenced less severely for the same crimes as men, they seem as a group to be quite a bit less in need than men, especially when males face abominable overcrowding, non-violent drug convictions, debtors' prison terms for inability to pay child support…
/r/MensRights26/01/13 06:26 AM
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Now those are some posters that will receive a good ripping down. Can't stand for differing opinions, right? What do we think schools are, places where people can decide what to think for themselves?
/r/MensRights26/01/13 06:14 AM
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