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Horniness is a powerful drug, and some women are not comfortable with masturbation/ need more than masturbation to get the itch out of their heads and do anything else with their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 05:55 PM
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They’re sociopaths. Comfort with manipulating people is one of the hallmarks.
/r/ExRedPill10/06/23 05:51 PM
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Gross
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 03:13 AM
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One of the biggest male-dominated industries in the US is driving, and while it’s not there yet, robotic driving is going to be here in a decade or less.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 08:39 PM
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‘Having engaged in casual sex once != ‘loving casual sex.’
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 06:15 PM
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r/thathappened
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 06:08 PM
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They will once they’re the only jobs around.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 06:07 AM
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No comment on most of this delusion, but I don’t see anyone else pointing out that you have it exactly backwards wrt. jobs that will be going away because of AI: cleaning and caring are both heavily dominated by women, and neither of those things will be replaced by robots as soon as other professions.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 03:55 AM
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Fuck around and find out. Any person will wonder ‘what’s wrong with my partner’ at first, if they start to seem distant. They’ll try to help and fix things because they love that person. But, eventually, they’ll either figure out the game or give up, and then they’ll move on.
/r/ExRedPill03/06/23 06:05 PM
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They are. The categories for women are just different than the categories for men. We all try to get the ‘best’ partner we can.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 07:30 AM
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That’s not trauma dumping, that’s an object example.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 06:04 PM
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Here’s the thing: when a woman says, ‘no woman will want you if you behave/think like that,’ she’s not shaming him for being a virgin, she’s shaming him for behaving/thinking like that. She’s giving advice, like telling someone trying to change a tire with their car on the level to use a jack, and how to find the jack points.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 06:02 PM
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My husband can have the ‘privilege.’ I’m not going to do it
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 03:39 PM
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Everyone should work at least a little bit, just to get them out of the house- but if we had some future where no one, including men, had to work more than one day a week… I can’t think that would be bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 06:26 AM
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OP didn’t say anything about happiness. All they were challenging is the terp idea that women aren’t dating men on their own appearance level. That’s it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 07:09 PM
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Just because a Chad is with a Stacy, it’s also impossible to know if they’re happy or content. That’s the human condition. All you’re doing here is moving the goal post from ‘women don’t date men on their same level,’ to, ‘well, maybe they do, but then the couple might not be happy.’
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 07:03 PM
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Dude, you need to edit this. It’s impossible to know what you’re trying to say because of the grammar.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 07:01 PM
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Some of them absolutely are; others are doing critical work on captive breeding and reintroduction of endangered species, and providing shelter for animals that cannot survive in the wild. For example, there are a couple of bald eagles at the Portland Zoo that can barely fly even in their expansive flight cage due to wing injuries. There absolutely is a very fucked-up side to the breeding, trading, and sale of captive rare animals for captivity, but not all zoos participate in that.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 06:59 PM
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No, correlation does not equal causation, but it is extremely suggestive in this case, and an area for further discussion and study. I’m writing on an internet discussion board, not submitting to Science.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 03:58 PM
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Hmmmm This is outside of my experience. The only 20 year old males I’ve known were either in my immediate family or in college, like me.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 03:30 PM
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1)the most effective forms of birth control cost more 2)poor people die earlier, and young women sometimes start as teens because they want to have their own mothers’ help/want the baby to know its grandparents (yes, this is deliberate; there’s a study on it). 3)extreme poverty is correlated with both bad schools, and with Republican governance where they have incredibly bad sex ed. 4)extreme poverty is also correlated with religiosity, and religiosity is correlated with greater fertility. 5)ext…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 03:27 PM
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Women are choosing not to have children because our society does not support children and families. Public schools and other infrastructure are crumbling, the spending power of the average worker has been falling for decades, and it’s harder and harder to get fresh, healthy food not pumped full of, or entirely composed of, processed shit. You know what should worry you more than the human population collapsing? The insect population collapse. The base of the entire goddamn food chain has fallen …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 12:17 PM
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The fantasy part is the idea that women 1)aren’t willing to sacrifice a bit of happiness for freedom, 2)are having fewer kids than they want because of feminism, and 3)suddenly want to become tradwives at 40.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 12:12 PM
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If you look at the word ‘feminism,’ sure, I think around 30% call themselves that. If you look at policies, it’s more like 90%. Women who do not want to live as servants are feminists, and the remainder are brainwashed by a religious/conservative upbringing. The feminist movement started because men weren’t holding up their side of the supposed bargain, and then women looked around and figured out that the women who are providing for themselves are doing way better than the ones who are dependen…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 12:09 PM
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snort This dude believed the terp fantasy that women hit a wall but men become more attractive with age, and either left his wife or played the field until 40 and is now pissed that he can’t get a 20 year old woman to look twice at him.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 12:01 PM
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Excluded middle fallacy
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 11:58 AM
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Plummeting fertility statistics are true, but it’s not from feminism. It’s from everyone who eats a decent standard of living (ie, not on public assistance) and has the mental and social wherewithal to use birth control. The median income in the US is less than $35K. After taxes, that leaves you less than $2,500 a month in the US, and rent in most cities starts at &1500. That doesn’t leave a lot to spare when you have one kid, much less more.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 11:49 AM
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It depends on the makeup. A lot of men post pictures of women in full-face makeup with the comment that ‘this is natural beauty.’ Lipstick? Yeah, probably not great, at least in terms of unnatural shades. Kohl? Depends on the friend group. Concealer? If it’s the right shade, the entire point is that it isn’t noticed. I mean, guys said that about pierced ears 20 years ago, and yet a lot of guys have pierced ears now.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 04:43 PM
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Mmmmmm I think it depends entirely on who has the better lawyer, if it becomes adversarial.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 04:40 PM
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Bullshit. I went out for first dates with guys who were balding, guys who were short, etc. The didn’t become hookups or second dates not because of appearances (I have no idea of dick size), but because of personality issues: the relatively intelligent libertarian who, by virtue of being smarter than average, thought that he was smarter than everyone and sneered at anyone with a different opinion; the guy who finally introduced me to his friends, and then started belittling them to me …to make h…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 03:49 PM
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LOL what? Of course men can initiate no-fault divorce, just like women, and of course both men and women can divorce in the event of infidelity.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 03:36 PM
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Women are now able to be deployed to the front lines thanks to feminists. This happened after the invasion of Iraq.
/r/ExRedPill29/05/23 02:26 PM
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This effect is decreased in younger generations and disappears in very socially progressive couples who don’t care about gender roles.
/r/ExRedPill29/05/23 02:24 PM
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I have literally never been in a mall that provides any sort of medical care. Where do you live?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 12:33 PM
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Same (in the lab and not on the floor, but still).
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 12:26 PM
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Good luck finding a woman willing to marry you if she has no protection from being kicked out into the street after sacrificing her career to raise your children, when you decide to marry another 20 year old when she hits 40.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 12:25 PM
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What malls are you going to that one can get cosmetic surgery in? Also, dudes: start doing your own shopping.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 12:16 PM
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How about men start to wear makeup and dress nicely, instead of expecting women to sink to their level?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 12:14 PM
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Sure, sure
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 06:16 AM
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And you’re surprised women don’t find this flattering?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 04:39 PM
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Dude. The graph is continuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 05:06 AM
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They don’t have to be aromantic, although those folks would absolutely fit in this category. They just have to believe that they’ll be happier alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 09:13 PM
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Uh, no. I’m not saying that no women like that kind of porn. I do, however, think that I’m not unusual enough, or unique enough, that people like me don’t make up a significant proportion of the numbers.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 09:12 PM
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🤷🏻‍♀️IDGAF if you believe me or not. It doesn’t change what I was doing, and it doesn’t change the fact that I was disgusted, not titillated.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 09:10 PM
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Amen
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 06:39 PM
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That’s why I did it when I first got on the internet. I spent a few months going down every category, partly out of curiosity and partly to figure out what to avoid. It sure as fuck wasn’t to get off, although I did return to some categories for that purpose when I was single. Hint: not violent or degrading shit. It’s not sexy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 06:33 PM
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The women who end up as single cat ladies are usually women who see that as a goal, not a failure.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 06:22 PM
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The most sales of the ‘50 Shades’ book, and the highest ratings, were in states with relatively conservative cultures and relatively rigid gender roles.. I’ve searched for as many types of porn as I knew how to search for, not for titillation but for education: I wanted to know what some men get off on, and what to avoid. I wonder if women’s and men’s searches for porn for the actual purpose of getting off follows similar patterns.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 06:04 PM
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You’re assuming that women searching porn always have the same motivations as men searching porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 05:54 PM
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The ‘dual mating’ hypothesis has failed to replicate. That two-study meta study only glosses over this, noting that women are more attracted to all men when fertile. https://datepsychology.com/why-dual-mating-hypothesis-research-has-failed-to-replicate/ In short, the idea that women must have different goals when having sex during a fertile window, vs when not fertile, is adaptationist; it would make empirical sense for it to be so, but that doesn’t mean that such a thing is actually what evolve…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 05:37 PM
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They’re attracted, in the immediate instance, to some of the side-traits that tend to accompany the ‘dark triad,’ charm and confidence. Long-term, core dark triad traits result in abortions, divorces, and/or restraining orders.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 05:32 PM
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Too thin for me. That would look healthy, to me, on a teenage boy, because they almost cannot eat enough to get sleek. But a man? No.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 07:36 PM
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FWIW I definitely prefer the higher end of that range. I work in healthcare, and the vast majority of very lean people I see are lean because they’re very, very sick. I’ve also lost two pets who just quit eating towards the ends of their lives and were emaciated when they died, and one of them probably would have died years earlier if she hadn’t been extra plump when she got sick then. I like my pets and my husband to have a bit of spare padding. Not fat, just… sleek. It makes me feel more secur…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 06:54 PM
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I’m not even talking about ‘vile’ men, though. I’m talking about ordinary men. I’m talking about the men on Seinfield, where misogyny was a laugh line, and the men who think that’s funny. I’m talking about men on the internet who make it virtually impossible to be openly female in most contexts. I’m talking about the men who made Belle Delphine $100K overnight by buying her bath water.🤮. Kudos to her for recognizing that there were enough gross men out there with money to spend- that’s half of h…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 01:34 AM
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Your last paragraph answers the question. If he does not give the vibe that he’d be a rapist if he could get away with it, or like he’d demand anal sex, or like he’d fly off the handle if he’s turned down, and she’s not giving off social cues to be left alone (reading, headphones in, head down), it’s way more likely to not ruin her day to have a dude approach her.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 09:36 PM
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It’s not just me, though. It’s all of those women initiating divorces- my parents included. It was not because my mom ‘found a better man,’ it was because my dad cheated and gave her an STI when she had a three year old and a new baby, was working, and trying to take care of the house too. All of my friends whose parents divorced had similar stories. One of my friends whose parents didn’t divorce had a dad who literally just sat in front of the tv all day while her mom worked to support the fami…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 09:33 PM
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Chad Thundercock is a dildo. Women aren’t choosing between you and ‘the top 20% of men, they’re choosing between you and the peaceful serenity of making their own rules on their own time, only doing dishes and laundry for themselves, only picking up after themselves, etc. A woman today is 1)most likely gainfully employed. She takes a hit to her earnings when she gets married, and especially if she has kids. If she never does either of those things, she will earn as much as, or more than, a singl…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 06:03 PM
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Model-level looks land on maybe 5% of young women, with supermodel looks being more like 0.01%.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 10:55 PM
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Yes https://www.jstor.org/stable/3033724 https://psmag.com/.amp/social-justice/louis-c-k-assortative-mating-men-overestimate-level-attractiveness-83197 https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/social-instincts/201507/when-men-arent-good-looking-they-think
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 12:33 AM
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I had a co-worker who was a very lean type 1 diabetic because she would skip on her insulin to basically pee out the calories. She was literally killing herself, in the hospital multiple times a year, and she had men hanging around her like starving puppies.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 11:52 PM
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BMI below optimal has a morbidity and mortality rathe that ramps up much faster than above average. It’s like a Nike swish with the tail on the fat side.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 11:50 PM
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In a speed dating experiment, men overrated themselves significantly but women were right on target with how womb rated them. What you see as women ‘overrating’ themselves might simply be women not giving a fuck about you one way or the other, regardless of your respective looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 10:18 PM
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I don’t think the main problems that women have are ideological.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 06:24 PM
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100% being an animal lover is necessary. Even being neutral is suspect. Also, a man being an animal lover increases his hotness by 25-50% Also, charm and confidence are hot; other ‘dark triad’ traits are disqualifying.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 04:02 AM
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I mean… maybe? We dated for five years before we got married, which doesn’t fit that paradigm.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 03:38 AM
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Not everyone gets pleasure from the same things.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 03:37 AM
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Not all women want The same things🤷🏻‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 02:49 AM
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I’ve been on fora like this since before I started dating my husband, as a way to get a look at red flags to avoid in terp men. I’ve stayed out of a combination of morbid curiosity and the hope that I can help turn some young men off of the path of failure.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 02:34 AM
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‘Daily’ != ‘5 or 6.’ Your reading comprehension is not good.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 08:18 PM
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I’m not talking about complimenting anyone, I’m talking about being polite and professional. If men take mere courtesy as an invitation to imply that I want to stick my finger up their asshole for the pleasure of it (for example), I’m not going to invite worse by commenting on any physical attractiveness they might have.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 07:33 PM
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It happened on a daily basis when I first started working. IDGAF what you look like; if you’re a patient, especially one my father’s age or older, I am not going to date you, much less have casual sex with you. This is why so many doctors, nurses and other female hospital staff are bitchy and strictly-business with all male patients, again regardless of what they look like, from the outset.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 07:30 PM
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I met my husband online. There was no opportunity to get ‘tingles,’ or not, from that. The initial weed-out was a 99% match rate on OKC, then excellent conversation, then physical attraction when I met him.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 06:11 PM
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The reason is that men take even a shred of common courtesy, or professionalism, as a statement of sexual interest. My resting bitch face is acquired, not natural.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 05:58 PM
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Part of that is online dating culture, but you’re not entirely wrong. There are a lot more men willing to be in sexual relationships with more than one person at a time than women, and that by itself would be a problem; add in the fact that men of all ages want to have sex with women in their 20’s, and that most women want to be friends before jumping into sex, and you have the firestorm that is online dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 05:55 PM
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One in four women have been sexually assaulted or raped by a man. Most of us have more than one friend, and we talk to each other. Almost all of us have been harassed by men, often starting with strangers as old as our fathers before we are even menstruating. We also meet a lot of men who give off the vibe of ‘I would be willing to force you to have sex with me (rape you. That’s rape.) if I thought that I could get away with it.’ We also meet a lot of men who clearly do not see us as full citize…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 05:33 PM
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‘Not wanting my body used like a blow up sex doll’ != ‘low sex drive.’
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 05:10 PM
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‘Unattractive’ includes being a douche.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 05:09 PM
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Young, healthy people are also desired collaborators for members of the same sex on non-sexual projects, and that’s what makeup is actually for.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 02:02 AM
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A lot of them are in stable relationships. Others have decided not to date. Others only date people they meet IRL.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 07:13 PM
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Because treating women as prey is Machiavellian to the point of narcissism.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 07:09 PM
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Women parroting tradcon and terp dogma know that they can suck money out of you. They’re actresses providing a service to desperate men, and their audience is men, not women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 02:18 AM
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Begging the question. All of the nicest guys I know- including some very overweight ones- are off the market in less than a month when they have been single.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 02:16 AM
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Sure, sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 05:47 AM
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Uh, yeah. Most people are generally trusting and assume that you’re not pulling manipulative shit or flat-out lying to them. What always works is just waiting for sex. Terps can’t handle it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 05:46 AM
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‘Creepy’ is the sense that someone wants something from you, and doesn’t care about your consent or lack thereof in getting it: that they would just take it, if they thought they could get away with it. It’s not limited to men, and it’s not limited to sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 06:57 PM
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Men? Yes. Terps? No.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 05:03 AM
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I have literally dumped men for ‘treating others badly,’ several times. Of course morals are important.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 05:02 AM
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shrug the guy I married is the guy I would advise other men to be. I don’t give advice on how to get lots of no-strings sex, because I’ve never been into no-strings sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 11:05 PM
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I know my now-husband was still thinking of himself as ‘single’ for several months after I considered myself ‘not single,’ when we were dating. I’m guessing that a lot of the difference is just a difference in perception of attachment between the two genders.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 06:45 PM
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our entire society is built on men doing things for women. snort This reminds me of that white supremacist dude with the scruffy beard, saying that western society was going to collapse if he didn’t have 100 women lining up for his semen this year.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 06:54 AM
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Statistically, bigger guys have a difficult time getting as hard. They use drugs in porn.
/r/ExRedPill05/05/23 12:18 AM
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Absolutely. I would way rather have a small dude who gets rock hard than a big dude with a floppy dong.
/r/ExRedPill04/05/23 06:59 PM
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Women don’t care about penis size nearly as much as men do.
/r/ExRedPill04/05/23 05:56 PM
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Sounds like unnecessary noise to me. How about this: people who GAF about body count should be able to see a person’s body count on their forehead.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 04:36 AM
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No, she doesn’t, any more than she has feelings for a dildo. Maybe even less, because she’s more likely to actually get off with the dildo.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 01:29 AM
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Women don’t want horses, they want a human partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 12:59 AM
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The titanic was a historic exception. What you are describing is how it has always been.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 12:58 AM
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Which part are you contesting? The idea that musicians and dancers are fucking hot, or the part where shipwrecks are almost always ‘every man for himself’?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 12:56 AM
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Most humans get attached to other humans that they spend a lot of time with, and especially if they’re sleeping with them. If we think that a dude is someone we might fall in love with, it’s better to get in slowly so that our heart isn’t ripped into shreds quite as tiny if things don’t work out.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 12:56 AM
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No one wants to be seen as unattractive or unsexy. That’s not what is being disputed, here.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 12:53 AM
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You did.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 12:53 AM
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You just literally compared being a father to being a co-worker who could be exchanged with anyone else. You literally just did that. Dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 06:08 PM
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Women notoriously love starving artists and penniless musicians. Not a lot of security there. And, with the sole exception of the Titanic, being male is highly correlated with being more likely to survive a shipwreck. Women are not the first out of burning buildings.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 06:03 PM
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Yikes. ‘Women should be forced to become single mothers for having sex that I do not approve of.’ You’re proving OP’s point.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 06:00 PM
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No. You’re just digging yourself deeper with every post.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 05:50 PM
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Are you seriously suggesting that women only value the men they choose to father their children like acquaintances/co-workers? Really?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 05:49 PM
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It doesn’t. It’s a marker for whenever I get into an argument with dudes who claim that terps aren’t like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 05:28 PM
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The implication is there.🤷🏻‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 05:27 PM
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Most of the research on ovulating shift failed to replicate or was refined in further studies to not show what terps claim it shows. Just like all non-scientists trying to make science claims, terps pick and choose only the few studies that support what they want to believe and ignore the preponderance of the evidence. Since we’re doing argument from authority, I refer you to Dr. Massimo Pigliuchi and Dr. PZ Myers, for a start.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 05:24 PM
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Woman hate dating. Most women do not get off from casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 05:18 PM
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‘Terps aren’t like that.’
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 05:14 PM
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You’re basically saying that men are stupid animals without the ability to make long-term plans, who do not value their own families as much as short-term flings. It’s misandrist.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 05:14 PM
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I’m a biologist, but the attempt to ‘splain is noted. Women know when risk of pregnancy is greater. Women are also having a lot more sex than they used to. Unlike dogs, we have these really great forebrains that can plan and reason, and knowing that one is 99% safe from pregnancy makes one more likely to give a dude a chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 05:12 PM
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That’s short-term and short-sighted. What most women value is long-term commitment and the massive effort it takes to gestate, birth, and raise a child. One night of sex is almost literally nothing next to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 05:43 AM
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‘Evolutionary psychology’ does not show that. Armchair pop psychology does.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 04:45 AM
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Terps imply that the woman values the casual sex guy more , though, when it’s the absolute opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 04:43 AM
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Bonobos are matriarchal because the females back each other up. It has to do with survival and social dominance, not intersex competition.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 02:00 AM
2

Yeahhhhh no, LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 01:15 AM
5

Nope. You don’t speak for all men, thank the gods.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 12:24 AM
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Most men aren’t sociopaths who can’t recognize women’s humanity unless they’re hot. A lot of them are. I’m guessing you’re one of the latter, seeing as how you seem to think you’re speaking for all men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/23 11:47 PM
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Men who make great buds for other men aren’t necessarily nice to women. Most of the best, nicest men I know got nailed down fast and early; I caught my husband on the rebound after a breakup, and you can bet I held on.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/23 11:46 PM
1

If you have special interests (science, games, books, whatever) join a group for that special interest. It’s good practice for interacting with people and making friends, even if there are no women there. If you’re in a big enough city, there may even be minority-focused specialty groups you can join, for a less stressful experience. In general, specialty-oriented groups are going to be where women who want social contact but who are similarly introverted, who don’t like bars or tinder, are goin…
/r/ExRedPill27/04/23 05:41 AM
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Do not have a kid with him unless you are sure he is done with this stupidity.
/r/ExRedPill27/04/23 05:00 AM
1

Exactly this. If you’re not going to participate in society unless you get a bang-maid, then it’s probably for the best that your genes do not survive.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 06:41 PM
1

Already happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 06:30 PM
0

Women aren’t interested in having sex with fat, nasty, whorish, abusive men, either.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 06:30 PM
0

Sooooo you want to force women into economic dependency on men whom they do not otherwise want? You want to force men into relationships where the only thing they provide is money? Gross, dude. Most of the ‘not born in wedlock’ kids are born to long-term couples, and most women do not get assistance from the state.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 06:29 PM
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This is just more fear-monger if over the same data that we discussed a few months ago. A large part of it is that women think they’re ‘in a relationship’ long before men do; basically, we think there’s a relationship if there’s sex, whereas men take longer to decide. My husband is great, but about 3 months after we started sleeping together he had me drive him to the ED for stitches because he’d accidentally stabbed himself in the hand while cooking. I introduced myself as ‘his girlfriend’ at t…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 06:26 PM
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This is just more fear-monger if over the same data that we discussed a few months ago. A large part of it is that women think they’re ‘in a relationship’ long before men do; basically, we think there’s a relationship if there’s sex, whereas men take longer to decide. My husband is great, but about 3 months after we started sleeping together he had me drive him to the ED for stitches because he’d accidentally stabbed himself in the hand while cooking. I introduced myself as ‘his girlfriend’ at t…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 06:26 PM
1

FWIW, I’m pretty happily married to a good person who is not a terp in the slightest. I come here, and to terp fora in general, partly out of morbid curiosity; I started frequenting this sort of place years ago, to learn what to avoid.
/r/ExRedPill19/04/23 06:10 PM
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Did I say that it was not a problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 05:27 PM
1

You should ask that as a first level comment. I don’t know enough about what Tate advises to answer, except that Tate’s ‘business’ landed him in jail.
/r/ExRedPill18/04/23 11:25 PM
1

Depends on what he means by ‘women are hypergamous.’ Wanting the best mate possible? Well, yeah. ALL humans want the best mate possible, including men. The criteria by which men and women are judged are traditionally different, but that doesn’t mean they’re not both trying to get the best mate. If he means ‘a woman will leave her mate at the drop of a hat if a better one comes along,’ well, the data do not support that.
/r/ExRedPill18/04/23 10:57 AM
1

Sure sounds like it.
/r/ExRedPill18/04/23 10:48 AM
2

Depends on how much endurance you have. For your niece’s sake, I’d say keep it up: maintain your cool, be persistent, get a good stable of really iron-clad references and even centrist or moderate thought leaders who can contradict Tate et. all (you don’t have to agree with them, but they might help pull your brother back from The brink). Make sure he knows that you’re arguing because you care about him and you don’t want him to lose his baby-mama (?) and little girl, because there is only so mu…
/r/ExRedPill18/04/23 10:48 AM
1

Most custody cases- like 80%- are settled out of court, and dads usually get what custody they ask for; furthermore, a lot of dads don’t even use the custody they get. The internet is full of moms asking if they can legally require their ex to see his own children.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 06:46 PM
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Rates of violence are only similar if you consider yelling at someone to be the same level of violence as breaking their jaw, choking them unconscious, or killing them, or if you consider women fighting back against someone trying to kill them on an equal level. But, sure, the male-controlled Bureau of Justice has been suborned by the feminists. https://media.ellinikahoaxes.gr/uploads/2021/05/caldwell2012.pdf https://www.hindawi.com/journals/aem/2015/502703/ https://bjs.ojp.gov/content/pub/pdf/f…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 02:31 AM
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Honestly, I think most moms would absolutely love to have true 50/50 custody.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 02:19 AM
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Sure… if it’s actually a true 50\50. No Dads expecting mom to still be the one to pick the kids up from school when they’re sick, if it’s his week. No dads expecting mom to cook, if it’s his week. No dads expecting mom to handle school shopping every year, no dads expecting moms to handle all of the appointments, lessons, and bills that go with having kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 12:57 PM
2

‘She looked mature for five!!!!!1!!1!1 ‘. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 12:54 PM
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LOL at the idea of cops, courts, judges, or lawmakers listening to ‘feminist academics’
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 12:53 PM
1

What feminist organizations are you thinking of, that supposedly have so much power?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 12:51 PM
1

Is guilt bad if you have something to feel guilty about? Like, do you defraud your contractor and then tell them you’re ‘using the guilt card’ when they want to get paid for the work they contracted to do?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 12:50 PM
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“Terps aren’t like that.” Seriously, though, if this is how you feel, do us all a favor and just hire out every interaction you want to have with a woman. Go to Nevada or the Netherlands and hire a prostitute, hire a cook, hire a cleaner. If you want kids, hire a surrogate and a nanny. You can even hire men for most of these things, or learn how to do them yourself. It would be far more honest, and save everyone a lot of annoyance or even suffering. Don’t lie about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 07:44 AM
1

‘Terps aren’t like that.’
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 08:29 AM
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That might, indeed, be true of most men. I think it’s true of my husband. I don’t think it’s true of terps, including OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 06:35 PM
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And yet the men on here constantly assert that desirability by a woman has nothing to do with it- they do not want the women who pay them the ultimate compliment, bearing his fucking children. They want teenage idiots with hot bodies who don’t know what they want or know how to avoid assholes. Demonstrably, it is not about ‘being desirable’ at all. That is the “consolation prize for betas,” according to terp assertions. It’s about sex with a physically attractive specimen. Which you can simulate…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 08:52 AM
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We feel weird that ‘getting laid’ is a goal when anyone can do it by themselves, usually better.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 12:43 AM
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Men can, and do, sabotage pills, sabotage condoms, etc. and birth control can fail. If a woman gets an abortion after a birth control failure, she probably didn’t get pregnant on purpose. And if a man throws a fit about a woman getting an abortion after a birth control failure, he might have had a hand in it. Men can, and do, control women coercively- emotionally, financially, and physically. And yeah, I’ve listened to the woman you’re talking about in an interview. At least in that interview, s…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 06:31 PM
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Women usually get over breakups faster because they’re usually the ones who initiate breakups, and they understand why things had to end.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 06:35 AM
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That’s on famous case that happened, what, a decade ago? Two? More? How many people have had oral sex since then, without this happening? Besides which, abusive boyfriends or husbands sabotaging birth control in order to trap a woman is common. it’s so common that ‘do you ever suspect your male partner of sabotaging birth control efforts’ is something clinicians are supposed to ask about in health checkups. So, yeah. That woman was a horrible bitch, and I feel for that guy, as much as I feel for…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 06:45 PM
3

As many men like bad girls as women who like bad boys.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 09:17 PM
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What does that actually mean? ‘Let men spin plates’?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 01:27 AM
1

Yes, people learn how to have sec by having sex. And also by reading and watching porn and educational programs. I learned how to suck dick from an article in the school paper called ‘how to give a blow job.’
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 07:44 PM
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Nooooo, as I said I’m arguing with terps on this forum. And yeah, I nailed down a guy who didn’t learn how to have sex by watching porn. I had to move to a new state to find him, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 06:50 PM
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snort did you read the thread?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 06:19 PM
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Touched a nerve, did I? I’m responding to the terps I see on this forum, who say that it doesn’t matter if she enjoys herself in bed ‘and of course women enjoy anal because the actresses on porn video pretend to and they couldn’t just be acting, right? Porn actors and actresses are having real sex that they enjoy, right?’ Porn makes men bad in bed. Sorry, not sorry. And no, I’m not shitting on men, I’m shitting on terps and other PUAs. We both know that “bareback” is valorized in that community …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 04:38 PM
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No one is denying that humans, including women, are animals. We’re denying that we’re only animals, and that we’re so driven by instinct that we can’t think around it, and that we all have the same instincts, and what those instincts are. We’re not some homogenous population of salmon. As for a liberal version, it’s basically: figure out how to be good in bed by responding to what the woman you’re with is enjoying, not what you think she should enjoy based on porn. If you’re not looking for a LT…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 05:43 AM
1

The list of the comments I have made. ThE Red Pill
/r/ExRedPill24/03/23 02:25 AM
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Short answer: yes. Long answer:when I was a teenager, I saw a bumper sticker that said, ‘Feminism is the radical belief that women are people.’ At the time, I thought that that, along with most of feminist discourse, was hyperbolic. Hanging out in terp spaces has taught me that it was simple, literal fact, and that most feminist arguments are based on facts, and taught me what to watch out for when I was dating. Edit: at times, I get flashes of suspicion that terp fora and terp arguments are jus…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 02:17 AM
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Check out my timeline for comments that include the phrase, “terps aren’t like that,” for examples of poisonous terpistry.
/r/ExRedPill23/03/23 09:25 PM
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That’s a bit like calling Ayn Rand’s sociopathic’. ‘Objectivist’ theory, “philosophy.” Terp theory isn’t about masculinity, it’s about a sham “masculinity” that is harmful to the individual and to everyone around him.
/r/ExRedPill23/03/23 09:16 PM
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I’m not single any more, but I literally moved states, to a bigger city, in part because I wasn’t into any of the guys where I used to live.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 11:39 PM
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I didn’t do research and didn’t unearth all slants, but I do think that this is significant.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 07:24 PM
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Depends on the ages of the couples in question. Men used to be about twice as likely to cheat; now that it’s more frowned upon for men and less frowned upon for women, they’re slightly more likely to cheat. https://static1.squarespace.com/static/54694fa6e4b0eaec4530f99d/t/5623c372e4b0501d406c088d/1445184370573/Infidelity+-+when%2C%2Fpsy%2Fblog%2Fhow-common-is-cheating-infidelity-really%2C+why.pdf
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 07:23 PM
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‘The most’? No. ‘An amount that is shocking to young people’? Absolutely.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 05:47 PM
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Because men just go ahead and cheat, whereas women who have issues face a lot more social pressure not to.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 05:46 PM
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I am naturally monogamous. Speak for yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 05:42 PM
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It was low-effort, I entirely acknowledge. I had a 15 minute break and not the time to read three long-form Atlantic articles, much less the original research they claim to represent. I wonder if they controlled for how much work the men did around the house😜 They do have some really, really good science writers there- unlike so many publications these days- but this isn’t one of them. Partly, too, I’ve been pretty naturally cis, het, and monogamous my whole life, and I have a hard time believin…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 05:41 PM
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I did not read the entirety of two long-form articles and a long-form book review, no. But I read enough to get the gist.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 05:35 PM
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I actually think a lot of Atlantic articles are quite good writing, but this isn’t Ed Yong.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 05:34 PM
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One Atlantic article, referencing another Atlantic article, which in tern is a review of a book written by yet another polyamorous person trying to claim that all of the monogamists are ruining their partners’ lives and no one could possibly be naturally monogamous.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 03:30 AM
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My grandmother on one side put up with philanderering and emotional child abuse from my grandfather. She was good at forgetting and forgiving. My grandfather on the other side put up with narcissism and social climbing from my grandma. Catholic on both sides.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 12:39 AM
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She might not need you, but people living together make an economy of scale. Both parties save on a lot by sharing expenses. That’s all that person was saying, I think.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 11:24 PM
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Damn, I’m sorry you had to go through that. I’m glad you’re no longer working around that guy.
/r/ExRedPill16/03/23 06:50 PM
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A lot of jobs don’t allow one to have a phone on them during work, or have times in which it is not safe or would interrupt work flow to pull it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 06:44 PM
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A woman has to be making less than, like,$15K a year, as a single person, to get government assistance. If she’s employed full time and has no kids, the government isn’t giving her squat, even if she’s trying to go to school at the same time.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 06:41 PM
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When I was younger, I would just leave if there was a guy I was interested in. I had a crushing fear of social awkwardness. Me ‘showing interest’ was me leaving as soon as he arrived.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 06:37 PM
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There is such a thing as shy women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 06:32 PM
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They have bad experiences fitting in with other men? Meaning that they’re the ones giving bad experiences to other men. JFC, y’all are soooo fucked up. You need to PAY someone to help you get your head on straight, because sex isn’t going to fix it for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 05:52 PM
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Oh, I actually agree wholeheartedly with that. I think girls would be better off, too. I think most people would be better off everywhere if there were gender parity in every profession.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 12:31 AM
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The US as a whole has no gender quota system, nor does any individual state within the US republic.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 12:30 AM
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Let’s start with just one thing. What state has a requirement that state workers be at least 50% female? Or has any quota at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 11:10 PM
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Even female teachers call on boys more than girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 11:01 PM
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Pretty sure fewer of those bullied boys were raped, filmed, and then called ‘sluts’ by half the school. Men are socially isolated because they don’t make or value friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 11:00 PM
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A lot of what you are claiming is false.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 10:58 PM
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The higher rate of married woman of all ages, with kids, is even more of a problem. Most people do want to be partnered; many want kids; women who do, don’t usually have a problem getting that. The problem is that there are a lot of men out there who want servants, not partners, and think that they should be served at home even if their wife works as many hours as they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 07:40 PM
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Ahhh, the ‘women are too stupid to know what they really want’ argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 08:49 AM
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It is for people who are naturally androgynous.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 08:48 AM
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I think there are a lot of women and men who would not date at all after this. People would make contracts to sire or bear offspring; male embryos would be selectively aborted, because contracting for a uterus would be so much of a greater expense in a child’s future life. Alternatively, there would be a cratering of reproductive output and there would be strong selective pressure towards people who wanted to form partnerships with real people rather than robots.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 03:47 AM
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I’m not talking about attraction. I am not attracted to men who sleep around, but I have some in my family and I love them as people.
/r/ExRedPill10/03/23 09:16 PM
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It was a study I read about 6 months ago. Idk if I can find it again, but I’ll do a 5 min search and post it back here if I do. Edit: this is similar, but not what I was thinking of. Basically, psychopaths are appealing for ONSs but not LTRs: https://www.psypost.org/2016/06/speed-dating-study-finds-narcissists-psychopaths-get-dates-dark-triad-43452
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 05:37 AM
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Not when controlled for confidence and charisma. Given two men of equal confidence and charisma, the good guy will have more success than the sociopath. Sociopathic confidence and charisma mimic, but do not replicate, the confidence and charisma of truly valuable men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 04:52 AM
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Not liking terps is not the same as not liking men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 03:09 AM
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A lot of those ‘before marriage’ births are to women who are in serious, long-term relationships. Th y might not be formal marriages, but they still qualify as common law marriages. And yeah, a woman who has a man’s child is absolutely giving him her body and her resources. There is no amount of sex that equals the damage and resource extraction that a pregnancy does to a woman’s body, let alone the effort of raising that child.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 03:08 AM
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First off, tv is not reality. Second, radical feminists are a very small subset of all women. Third, I have no idea what a “pookie” is. Fourth, I don’t doubt that it’s how people explain what they see, but it’s not necessarily what is actually happening. Fifth, birth control is a thing. The fact that women might sleep with a man does not necessarily mean that she wants to have kids with him, not that she should; if he’s a bad father and she’s not ready, far better for her to abort it before it b…
/r/ExRedPill10/03/23 03:05 AM
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Well, I am neither black nor living in a majority black area, so I can’t speak to that experience, but I can pretty much guarantee that women are not leaving good, supportive providers who pull their own weight and make the women’s lives better, to be alone or to get knocked up by assholes. I have heard it hypothesized that very poor women, who live in areas where a lot of people don’t live past their 50’s or 60’s, tend to have kids earlier because they want the kids to know their grandparents.
/r/ExRedPill10/03/23 02:59 AM
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If you are actually observing women behaving as terp philosophy dictates- like, actually doing so, as opposed to you interpreting their actions that way- (for example, most self-declared ‘nice guys are NOT actually nice)- then you’re watching the wrong subset of women. Shallow women exist. Gold diggers exist. But they are not the majority of women, any more than abusers and misogynists are the majority of men. Heck, even terps aren’t the majority of men. But a woman who spends four hours getting…
/r/ExRedPill09/03/23 11:28 PM
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That’s… kind of a bizarre take to me, as it does not jibe with my personal experience. I work in a mixed environment, with men and women, and we all have to maintain cordial and professional relationships with each other. Most of the time, personal conflicts are due to personality, not ‘sexual tension,’ and I just don’t see people being incapable of having friendships without developing feels for someone after the fact. It’s true that getting to know someone might make them more attractive, as y…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 11:22 PM
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Sometimes, but genes are genes. They’re still the fathers of the next generation.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 11:17 PM
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In cultures where women can choose their partners, less than 5% of pregnancies which occur within a committed relationship (whether formal marriage or LTR commitment) show extra-pair paternity. Whether you think that’s a ‘reward’ or not, those are the men who are getting the woman’s resources and commitment, and those are the men who are airing the next generations.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 11:15 PM
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Do I love men who sleep around? Sure, if they’re not hypocrites about it.
/r/ExRedPill09/03/23 11:10 PM
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Women are marrying and having children with the former, regardless of what they do with the latter.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 07:30 PM
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Being nice is never weakness. Friends are always valuable.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 07:18 PM
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ThE Red Pill
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 07:17 PM
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Terp ideology treats women as NPCs. You might not hate the NPC, but you definitely don’t respect her as a full human being.
/r/ExRedPill09/03/23 07:16 PM
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Do you love women who are infertile, or who choose not to have children? Do you love women who are not quiet and submissive? Do you love ambitious women? Do you love women who have sex with multiple men, not including yourself? No? Then you don’t love women, you love the roles that tradcon society tries to impose on women.
/r/ExRedPill09/03/23 07:11 PM
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No, it’s about being willing to be nice to people you are not sexually interested in… a concept I know is beyond terps.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 06:31 PM
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No
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 06:46 PM
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I absolutely think women are more content without sex than men, especially now that toys have been destigmatized. Most of us do still long for companionship and understanding, but that’s a rare, precious quality in men these days, and perhaps ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 07:54 PM
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This 100%. And a lot of women can tell, which impacts their success.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 11:41 PM
3

How many of those movies were written, produced, or directed by women…?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 06:38 AM
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No.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 12:25 AM
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Similar here.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/23 08:02 PM
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Four, including my husband, and four.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/23 08:01 PM
1

A person who tries to induce someone to cheat on their established partner shows themself to be low quality.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/23 12:41 AM
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It’s not delusional, though. Women understand their options very well: 1)lower your standards 2)not have a LTR. They are actively choosing number 2.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 04:01 AM
2

Slight lean towards Tom, if he’s young, and Sam, if he’s old (assuming I’m the same age as either).
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/23 12:32 AM
2

By “everything,” you mean “half of the joint assets and primary custody of the children that, according to OP, he doesn’t want anyway.”
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/23 11:12 PM
1

“Terps aren’t like that.”
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/23 11:11 PM
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Being sold off was exactly what ‘marriage’ was for a lot of women. The ‘good men’ that they got set up with were often their own father’s dudebros, whom he thought were ‘good guys’ even if they were drunks, philanderers, abusive towards women, etc. There is vastly less extra-pair paternity when women pick their own spouses and aren’t forced to marry when and whom they do not want.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 08:16 PM
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Union plumbers, electricians, etc make bank. It’s $200 just to have one come to your house, and they’re so far booked that you can’t get one within a week unless you’re literally in danger of flooding out.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 08:11 PM
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The fact that relationships are more important for most people, does not mean that work has zero importance or can’t even be more fulfilling for others. History is full of men who were crappy fathers and husbands because they devoted themselves to their work, and also unsung househusbands; there’s a wide range of people in between those two extremes.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 08:05 PM
1

Single
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 02:59 AM
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Depends on if she has to share it with the man or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 04:56 AM
1

It does not fit my experience, nor that of any woman I’ve ever personally spoken with.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 04:52 AM
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Assuming my country was involved, I hope he’d flee with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 03:16 AM
1

Ethical non-monogamy is fine, as long as you’re honest and not a hypocrite.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 03:12 AM
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Hunting mammoths? Probably not as much as men. But hunting small game and bringing in the tubers and vegetable matter that made up the majority of the tribe’s calories, absolutely.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 12:46 AM
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snort Couples in LTRs share expenses. Y’all are constantly talking about how men are always giving stuff to women, but that is only ever true of women who are or look like Instagram models post-edit, and not true even for them in LTRs. Plus it’s like you have no goddamn clue how much time and effort it takes to prep for dates, not to mention how much work goes into taking care of a dude if you live with him. Most men are just not worth the effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 02:17 AM
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According to terp theory, women marry (or form LTRs with) “beta males.” In places where women chose their own husbands, extra-pair paternity is less than 5%. That means that women are choosing to reproduce with what terps call “beta males,” meaning that “beta” males are evolutionarily superior. On an evolutionary scale, he with the most grandkids wins.
/r/ExRedPill20/02/23 02:12 AM
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Also, the men that terps call ‘beta males’ are, by and large, the winners on an evolutionary level. Women are choosing these men to have children with, not the ones that terps call ‘alphas.’
/r/ExRedPill19/02/23 10:17 PM
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I wouldn’t call a gravedigger creepy unless I felt like he was going to poison me to drum up business. I think goths are mostly poseurs, not creepy, and I have no problem with spiders. I don’t doubt or disagree that ‘potential harm’ is the origin of the word ‘creepy,’ as that jibes completely with my statement; I do disagree that it means mere ‘lack of beauty.’
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/23 08:25 PM
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You have to also specify that the second woman is hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 07:40 AM
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Creepiness is the sense that someone wants something from you, and would just take it if they can, with or without your consent. Men can sense this too, just not as often.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 04:21 AM
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Yep. Non-white does not preclude alt-right. The alt-right is not synonymous with ‘racist’ or ‘neo-nazi,’ Al’s though there is a lot of overlap, and a lot of non-white people are still extremely prejudiced against people of other non-white races and/or Jews.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/23 10:43 PM
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Terps are 100% part of the alt-right.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/23 09:21 PM
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Given that she went down the alt-right rabbit hole, just like thousands of young men, it absolutely does.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/23 07:23 AM
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It absolutely is. A high school friend of mine (a woman, actually) was absolutely sucked into the YouTube rabbit hole.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/23 05:51 AM
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Newsflash: men and women are the same species and the DNA hoops quite happily from one sex to the other, with the exception of the X chromosome.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 10:11 PM
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Yeah, but that means that factors other than hotness and earning capacity have to be considered, which is anathema to terps.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 10:10 PM
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YouTube and porn absolutely suck young men in.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 09:52 PM
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It kind of becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy, where men are so hateful towards women that the only women who are willing to put up with them are the ones after money, status, or looks. It actually removes one of the factors that some men have going for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 09:51 PM
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Which brings up another point, actually: it’s virtually impossible to actually test whether any very complex, multi-genic trait is, in fact, multi-genic or just cultural, without a group that does not have that trait or that set of genes, and the vast, vast majority of evo-psych ‘studies’ are polls of white western psych undergrads. A few have started making forays into other cultures and tribes, but not many.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 07:14 PM
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I’ve known since before I was 14 that I didn’t want kids. My mom was great, but I saw how much suffering it caused her for her source of joy to be another person- for her to be incapable of joy without my brother and I. I didn’t want that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/23 07:14 PM
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Some men and women do, some do not. I never did, but some of my friends absolutely do, and I’ve heard that people who can’t have kids are often just devastated by that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/23 07:10 PM
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Well, we were talking about actual bots. If all you want is an orifice and agreeable chatter, you can get hat today with a realdoll and a sound file.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 04:12 AM
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Some of their numbers are questionable to just plain wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 09:58 AM
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Technically not, but their children will be a lot more successful and their own lives will be easier if they have a second functional adult helping them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 08:58 AM
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Sperm is cheap. Presumably there will still be sperm banks.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 06:57 AM
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Why wouldn’t he? He can be programmed to do anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 06:57 AM
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Nah. You have to combine the sexbot with the functions of a maid, nanny, and butler. It will be more expensive, but totally worth it!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 04:17 AM
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Same as on my first post. Women welcome the sexbot revolution.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 04:15 AM
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First off, if there are female sex bots, there will be male sex bots as well. Secondly, the type of man who would want a sex slave is not the type of man a woman would want anything to do with.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 11:15 PM
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Go for it. Every woman I’ve ever talked to really, really wants the men who want sex robots to have sex robots.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 08:43 PM
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No.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 06:40 AM
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Because men find each other so revolting that the idea of touching something that another man touched makes them gag, I think? Plus jealousy that someone else ‘got’ sex with a stupid young woman that they were denied, even if that woman is now having their child. There are a lot of men on here who really do not GAF about their own families; it’s all about sex, how much and how kinky and how hot the partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 03:02 AM
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Predatory trophy wives
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 02:59 AM
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His opening statement was ‘no makeup at work,’ and he went from there to ‘makeup mimics sexual arousal.’ He did not exempt mascara or eyeliner from that statement, and mascara and/or eyeliner is often the only makeup women wear.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 08:16 AM
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I didn’t ask about blush. I asked about eye liner.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 02:56 AM
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So, no.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 12:45 AM
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https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/conservative-and-single-sorry-not-interested Quote: “A 2021 Generation Lab/Axios poll found that 71% of college Democrats would not date a Republican voter, while only 31% of college Republicans would not date a Democratic voter. It’s even harder for Republican men. A 2020 Pew poll found that only 41% of women would be willing to date someone who voted for the opposing candidate, while 67% of men were OK with someone who voted differently. The objectors…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 02:54 AM
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I know exactly what you mean. Overweight but think they’re fit, goatee, wrap-around sunglasses, salesman-types
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 02:37 AM
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Do you think your eyeliner mimics sexual arousal?🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 02:36 AM
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citation needed
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 02:32 AM
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Huh. This might be the female equivalent of ‘what men find attractive in men, is not necessarily what women find attractive in men.’ It had not occurred to me that there would be a female equivalent, but of course there would be. So rather than the female professional soccer team, the members of your JV league 😜
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 04:48 PM
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It’s an answer to an explicit question.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 06:16 AM
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Women are not a hive mind. I don’t know why we have to keep on saying this.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 05:50 AM
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Sometimes it is narcissistic to think that your way is the right one, sometimes it is not. It depends on the variance and on the evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 05:49 AM
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Being ‘educated and wealthy’ does not necessarily make you high value. No man with a drinking problem, a drug problem, or a gambling problem is high-value, regardless of his education or wealth. No man with a violent temper is high-value. No narcissist is high-value. No sociopath is high- value. No man of below-average intelligence is high-value. Etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 05:47 AM
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snort No, I just got tired of mediocre white men thinking they were the shit. And your ideal has not been my ideal since I was in high school. And, unless you followed the same woman over time, your experience does not suggest that women’s taste does not change with time.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 04:17 AM
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Uh, what? Very few women think they ‘deserve the world.’ Narcissism and sociopathy are diagnosed more often in men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 04:14 AM
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You are not correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 03:37 AM
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‘Terps aren’t like that.’
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 03:34 AM
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there’s a difference between ‘best sex’ and ‘hottest,’ ELL O ELL Sounds like a distinction made to save face and give consolation prizes. Not at all. A guy with a hot body might have learned to have sex from porn, and be simultaneously completely ignorant about how to please a woman and also sure that he’s doing the best sex ever, because it’s what gets him off and the actresses pretend to like it so…? And any guy who isn’t good at sex might develop into a sex god with time, if he’s open to lear…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 03:15 AM
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Uh, no. Some dude she had a ONS worth got a ONS. If she was dating a dude for a year or more, she was doing so with the intent of a LTR-that is, she was considering him for the ‘husband material’ the OP is talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 12:25 AM
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snort boobs, shoulders, and hips are not altered by sports.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 12:23 AM
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There’s a difference between ‘best sex’ and ‘hottest,’ and also most women find that sex gets better with the duration of a relationship. Dead bedrooms start when one party, or both, are exhausted by their responsibilities. And if you don’t think that tastes change, you’re just in denial of reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 12:17 AM
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They do. That’s why divorces happen, and it’s why con men have to lie about being conservatives if they want to get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 10:08 AM
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We all know what we're talking about when we say fat women. I was responding to a post about ‘heavy,’ not ‘fat.’ …at the end of the day men have far-and-away more diverse and forgiving tastes when it comes to women than the opposite. That has not been my experience at all. Most of my girlfriends don’t get why I am attract to my husband, and I don’t get why they’re attracted to theirs. Plus we all have that friend with just …really unfortunate taste in men. And to take a well-known media example,…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 10:00 AM
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So TLDR you don’t think it’s possible for women to mature in their tastes in terms of men or sex, and you don’t think it’s possible for 90% of women to love their husbands. That about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 09:24 AM
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On an evolutionary level, the guy that fathers her children is the winner. The vast majority of children produced within a marriage that is consensual on the part of both parties are the children of the husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 09:21 AM
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Used goods are goods, not people.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 09:18 AM
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IDK what my waist size was, but I always had a hard time finding pants that fit because getting ones that fit my ass almost always left a huge gap- on the order of 4-6 inches- at my waist. And I had to have baggy thighs because my quads were so buff. As for body fat, I’m guessing it was low because I was barely having periods. The point wasn’t that I was super fit, it’s that shaming people for ‘weight’ or BMI is stupid. If you want to pretend that you’re interested in a potential mate’s fitness,…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/23 09:00 PM
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I was also the second shortest person on my team, not including coxswains. 5’4”
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/23 08:25 PM
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That applies in lek species like Sage grouse, not so much in humans. Women don’t think the old dude with the harem is hot, they think he’s pathetic and dread being so desperate that they end up with him.
/r/ExRedPill22/01/23 07:55 PM
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I was 160 when I was in crew, in the best shape of my life- and that was the average weight for my team. Everyone says weight preferences are about fitness, and it’s absolutely bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/23 05:29 PM
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Women don’t complain about men preferring reasonable things, women complain about men hypocritically preferring reasonable things. If your arguments ended with the woman saying she’s happily married, it’s because yours ended with calling her a crazy cat lady who will never get a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/23 05:25 PM
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If the women were 30-50% bigger than the men, you mean, and had higher testosterone and sex drives…? Yeah. It would be
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 04:36 PM
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That’s basically what it is. That is, in fact, how men act in public towards women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 04:35 PM
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Less harassment, or harassment starting at an older age? IDK. I’m not rude to men I know, or men who deal with me politely. Just strangers who try to get more attention and space than they are justified to have, in the contest of being a stranger in public or at work.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 01:39 AM
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Is it sexual harassment when a female sports reporter enters a male locker room, along with the male sports reporters, to interview players?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 01:37 AM
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With a lot of men, there is not. Please believe me on this, I was raised to be polite and respectful, especially of people older than me, and I turned into the most standoffish cold bitch you can imagine to strangers in public and at work, because it was the only way I could do my job or get where I was going. I did not want to be like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 11:04 PM
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Women’s bathroom lines are longer because we do not have a liquid disposal appendage, meaning it requires a lot more disrobing, cleaning, and robing to simply pee. It just takes longer. Also, a women’s restroom might have five stalls, where a men’s restroom of the same size might have three stalls and five urinals.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 10:52 PM
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Women learn to be rude to men starting at a very young age, because being polite to men gets you (at best) some random stranger trying to monopolize your time for an hour, and him thinking you’re into him because you don’t leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 10:48 PM
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Read the whole sentence that I actually said. Quote it for me. The whole sentence.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 09:38 PM
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Dude. Maybe you really are that stupid. I am not saying anything about “any and all male attention,” I’m saying DON’T BE RUDE. This is not rocket science.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 09:24 PM
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It’s not my logic. It’s the logic of the conversation I was responding to. I was pointing out how stupid it was.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 09:22 PM
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The logic follows. If it is woman’s choice of men that is to blame for men beating women, which terps claim, and all men are capable of beating women, then women should choose no men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 09:01 PM
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JFC. I wish dudes wouldn’t pretend to be this stupid. She was busy. You’re like an effing toddler who can’t stand to see his mom on the phone, “Mom! Mom! Mom! Mom! Mommmmmyyyyyuyyy! Mom! Mom!” If she’s already involved in something that is taking 100% of her concentration, don’t interrupt. It’s ducking rude. If you wouldn’t interrupt a dude doing it, don’t interrupt a gal doing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 08:57 PM
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Speaking as a feminist, there’s going to have to be a reset on a large scale. Holding on to, or going back to the old ways will not help; look at Japan, with men checking out because they don’t want to work 80 hours/week for a family they never see, women are checking out because they don’t want to be an isolated servant who rarely leaves the tiny house, for a toddler and a husband she never sees. The old ways sucked for both sides. What we’re seeing now, in the US, is a distant cousin of that; …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 06:44 PM
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The logIcal outcome of terp philosophy: P1)all men are capable of beating women P2)It is a woman’s fault if she chooses a man who beats her P3)women do not want to be beaten C)therefore, all women should avoid all men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 06:24 PM
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More openly vicious subs got banned or quarantined, and many of the posters came here
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 06:10 PM
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Divorce is just as likely because the woman is less likely to tolerate a man who is a ball and chain, but alimony is non-existent.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 06:05 PM
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He wanted to chase after a woman who was on her way somewhere, and demand that she stop what she was doing and pay attention to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 05:50 PM
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I remember it, actually, and that add wasn’t claiming that no approaching is ever ok. It was saying street harassment of people busily going about their lives isn’t ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 05:09 PM
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This is an interesting light on why so many Asian women date and marry white men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 04:55 PM
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And they think ‘average woman’ means an actress or model who plays a ‘girl next door’ on media, or a woman who looks like that. Basically a supermodel without makeup.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 04:52 PM
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Begging the question
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 04:48 PM
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Anyone can have any consensual sex that they want, and anyone can end a relationship for lack of fidelity.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 04:33 AM
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Gillette never said or implied that any man ever approaching any woman in any situation is wrong. Approaching in a singles bar or on a dating app is de rigeur. It’s
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 04:29 AM
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Yes, I have a police protection detail following me around whenever I’m in public /s
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 11:50 AM
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I didn’t want a loner, but I also didn’t want a guy with 20 ‘best’ friends. A small, tight friend group is perfect.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 07:08 AM
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Most humans wantto find a partner. No humans want to be coerced into taking one.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 12:28 AM
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I regret that I have only one upvote to give.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/23 05:06 PM
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No one has ever given me shit, because I have been careful to not be knocked up. The resources given to women by the state are resources for their children, because the state has an interest in the next generation not growing up in crippling poverty.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/23 05:05 PM
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Because women don’t like being handed out like spoils, and women can support themselves. And they don’t get “nothing,” they get exactly the same-more, even! that women get for that same work. They just have to now appeal to women, rather than have them financially coerced into servitude. Also, kudos for the ‘women after 30 are worthless’ add.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/23 04:51 PM
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To be fair, the soldiers were all on it, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/23 02:24 AM
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They hated their lives enough that they needed drugs to keep from offing themselves (edit: that’s hyperbole. From leaving their husbands) https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2377281/figure/f3/?report=objectonly
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/23 12:49 AM
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Are you suggesting that 50’s housewives weren’t notoriously drugged up to keep them compliant?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/23 09:57 PM
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Being horny makes a lot of single women these days masturbate, because they’re more likely to get off alone than with a stranger; and masturbation is not some new-dangled thing. We’ve seen it in bats, bonobos, Japanese Macaques, and I don’t know what other species, so women and men have probably been doing it since before there were women and men. Of course, if you aren’t single, the sex is better and you’re going to hit your dude up for some action. And potentially get pregnant. Like, it could …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/23 09:56 PM
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‘Human touch’ doesn’t matter much when the other party is using you as a slightly better flashlight.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/23 04:07 PM
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Oh, I agree that the evidence suggests that orgasm doesn’t have anything to do with conception, but if a woman enjoys sex enough to have it once or twice a month, say, or even more, she’s going to end up knocked up more than a woman who only has sex once a year, or when she’s attacked/coerced. Speculating about the purpose of orgasms in lesbian sex is not different than speculating about the purpose of orgasms for gay men. Humans are mammals, but we’re very unlike any other mammals on the planet…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/23 04:06 PM
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Fwiw, we live in an obesogenic environment. There are definitely things you can do to make yourself healthier, like exercise, but exercise at normal levels does not make one thin if one is overweight or obese. It makes your heart and lungs work better. It is not 100% your fault if you are overweight.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/23 01:02 PM
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Women in the 50’s were all drugged up to keep them compliant. https://daily.jstor.org/what-really-made-1950s-housewives-so-miserable/ https://scibabe.com/mos-the-meth-fueled-1950s-housewives/
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/23 12:52 PM
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I upvoted, but I disagree on two points: first, evidence suggests that humans have been pair-bonding since before we were humans. Human offspring require huge parental investment, and despite most of the calories in hunter-gatherer groups being provided by women, the micronutrients and protein in meat, mostly provided by men, especially in hunter-gatherer contexts (no tofu out there), are important to growing bodies (I’m a vegetarian and a biologist, don’t @ me fellow vegetarians and vegans). ht…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/23 12:44 PM
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Being masturbated on by a stranger does not make one feel intimate, connected, or wanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/23 12:29 PM
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ONSs are mutual masturbation, not intimate validation, and a woman can usually masturbate better by herself than with a ramdom dude no matter how hot he is.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/23 12:28 PM
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Ok, here’s the problem. Why does a woman, who works as many hours as her man, need to be the one who cooks and cleans?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/23 12:23 PM
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I was contentedly single and celibate for a decade.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/23 12:18 PM
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”Excess mortality surpasses 100%" means males start dying 2 times more often than females. Yes, I’m aware of basic statistics. it stops growing when men stop being under enormous influence of their mostly female teachers, caregivers, and guardians, and start living by themselves. snort also when their brains mature and they’ve learned how to control their testosterone-driven instincts a bit better. And when they get out from under the thumb of their fathers. And when they’re suddenly the ones pa…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/23 04:56 AM
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I think most women hate that guy if that happens to them. Most of the women I meet who hate men in general, though, hate them for violence and manipulation. As for women’s perceptions, not exactly. There was an OKC study on that, but it was based on a time when the person you were rating got informed of you rated them at the highest level, so women who wanted to ‘browse’ anonymously deliberately lowered their ratings to avoid that feature; in that same study, men rated on a bell curve but only m…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/23 01:12 AM
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Except that it wasn’t about ‘women’s toxic traits,’ it was about women taking the best of the options available to them. How is that toxic? Not giving men pity sex is toxic? The women who hate men, don’t hate men for not choosing them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/23 12:42 AM
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No, you absolutely should be angry at that. However, that’s not the majority of mens’ anger towards women and you know it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/23 12:07 AM
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Are you suggesting that women who are angry at men, are angry because they’re being ghosted or ignored?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/23 12:06 AM
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I’m not that age any more, but I wasn’t ok with that idea when I was. 5 years tops.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 11:47 PM
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Except that ‘daddy picking your partner’ had young women being literally sold to their father’s drinking buddies, and has a vastly higher level of extra-pair paternity than love matches. It’s a plot device for a million YA novels for women that the heroine has to run away from home to keep froM being sold to some old dude she’s never met, or has met and hates. It is, in other words, revolting to women and is functionally sexual slavery, no matter how formalized or what pretty words you use for i…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 11:39 PM
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Organ transplants take a LOT of coordination on both ends. They don’t survive long outside of a human even when kept very cold; it’s not something you could ship across the world and expect to work perfectly on arrival.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 11:34 PM
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There aren’t enough decent men to go around, so we need daddy government to force the bad ones that women ‘give a chance’ to, to actually pay for their own offspring. Also, by definition, the person with the most grandkids is the most evolutionarily fit. If you think sociopaths are having more children, what is it that makes sociopaths more fit? And why are we not overrun with sociopaths?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 09:32 PM
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Citation? I’ve seen evidence of regulated rape in Uighur prison camps, but I haven’t seen or heard of women being forced to abandon one husband and become the sex slave of another.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 09:26 PM
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Yet another entry into the ‘women are resources, not human beings’ file.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 09:24 PM
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Male excess mortality starts at birth… True …and in many countries surpasses 100% before or right at the beginning or puberty. Not quite true. It peaks in the teens and early 20’s. “Hey, guys, watch this!” “Boys will be boys.” https://www.ined.fr/en/everything_about_population/graphs-maps/interpreted-graphs/excess-male-mortality/ Edit: https://www.pnas.org/doi/abs/10.1073/pnas.1421942112 You can keep enjoying your handwavium and pretend not to notice that by substituting "this privilege does not…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 08:50 PM
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The wedding industry has not collapsed. Women are still making LTRs and gerringf married. Maybe figure out what you’re doing that is turning them off.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 05:02 PM
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‘Even ugly women want to be treated as valid human beings for sex, and they have the option of guys who treat them like humans, it sucks!’
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 04:57 PM
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Dude. Those graphs did not stratify between women with children and those without. Women with college educations have fewer children than women without. It does not follow that ‘most women with diplomas do not have children.’ That men die earlier largely due to their own behavior is 100% true and well-known. And LOL at ‘fruits of labor they did not earn.’ Men like you make me wish women could hurry up with the ‘making sperm from bone marrow’ project, and cut you out entirely.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 04:28 PM
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Men in general? Sure. Terps? Hahhahahhahahhahhahahahahhahaaba
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 02:35 PM
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Right?! Attractive, funny, tall… but thinks women should do all of the home and childcare even while working full time. Or thinks that women are more emotional/ stupid. Or wants kids, but doesn’t want to get married. Or wants open relationships. Or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 02:24 PM
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Those figures don’t contradict what I said. Source required for the statement that ‘women with diplomas usually don’t have children.’ Men taking care of the children more than they used to is good, but it doesn’t mean that they are yet anywhere near the investment that women put in. We regularly see men on this sub admitting that they don’t GAF about women, children, or families, only lots of sex with young women. Most of women’s increased lifespan is due to better behavior: fewer risks, less sm…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 02:14 PM
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Sooooo women have the “privilege” of being able to sell their bodies? Realistically, men do, too. There are plenty of old, horny, gay dudes out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 08:59 AM
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Women don’t get more state assistance than men unless they have children, but I agree that the few men who actually do take care of kids should have better resources.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 08:58 AM
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It’s not just about statistics, though. It’s about having learned to keep our heads down and placate men because some of them lose their shit once in a while… but hey, they’re the “logical, rational” ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 08:56 AM
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LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/23 07:57 PM
1

She did? Really?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/23 04:59 PM
1

You mean she was manipulated into it before, and never wants to do it again, but you think she would if she loved you? Because “love” = victimization, to you? Or “love” = paying for food with sex, on a first date? Gaaah. This conversation is not worth my time.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/23 04:18 PM
1

Good for both of you. If you make your demands up front, she knows whom to avoid and you don’t have to ‘waste’ money on a dinner when you could just go straight to a whore, who will do whatever you want. The downside is that she probably won’t pretend to enjoy it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/23 04:07 PM
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Oh, wait, you’re right. I was confusing it with r/incels and r/MGTOW. The Red Pill was quarantined for promoting rape and similar disgusting/illegal shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/23 04:05 PM
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ThE Red Pill I’ve said it elsewhere, and I’ll repeat it here: the idea that a woman’s love for a man, or her level of attraction, can be measured by how much degradation and pain she is willing to endure for sex with him is not only incorrect, it’s disgusting and vicious. We are told to be ‘game,’ that is, to try everything at least once to be a good partner, and many of us are told by partners who wouldn’t be pushing us to do this if they actually cared for us, ‘you’d do it if you loved me.’ It…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/23 03:41 PM
1

Women and men both can date shitty people.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/23 11:35 AM
1

I stand corrected on the other countries, but draft registration is not the draft.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/23 05:21 AM
1

One friend of the family is constantly getting with glamorous women who dress in skimpy clothes and wear lots of makeup. The relationships never last more than 6 months and the breakups are spectacular, and he has no idea what he’s doing wrong. My uncle has been single for about a decade and a half-two decades AfaIk (and I’m pretty sure he’s het); he had a couple of LTRs that didn’t work out, and then stopped trying.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/23 04:25 AM
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TRP got banned because it was advocating violence, doing nothing for men, and was the hangout for high-profile mass shooters.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/23 04:13 AM
0

The draft that… doesn’t exist for any western person outside of Ukraine and Russia?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/23 04:11 AM
1

And this is why women don’t want to be with terps. Terps don’t want partners, they want servants.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/23 04:10 AM
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Terps and other young men actively preach that women are incapable of love, loyalty, or logic, and incapable of appreciating anything besides looks and money, and then wonder why women don’t want anything to do with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/23 04:09 AM
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Cautious, logical people have relationships, too. Some of us can learn from watching others’ mistakes and want to get things right the first time.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/23 12:47 AM
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Do you have a citation for the claim that 1/3 of marriages start from casual hookups? I would have guessed more like 5%.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/23 12:43 AM
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Yuck
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/23 12:38 AM
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There’s a difference between sex to scratch a horniness itch and sex to bond. The former is basically masturbation; personally I preferred to use sex toys, but some women and most men are really good at it (based on what I see in popular culture, anyway), so that shouldn’t be hard to understand. Sex for bonding is something different. If you actually like the guy, then it’s really easy to end up catching feelings when you have sex. It has less to do with the dude thinking you’re a slut and more …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/23 12:36 AM
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1)If she’s the one filing the paperwork because both people want out of the marriage but he’s too lazy to do paperwork, she should not be penalized for that. 2)If he’s seeing the kids less because he wants to see the kids less, she should not be penalized for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/23 12:25 AM
2

On the contrary, men ‘who are encouraged to act like men,’ by which you mean performing a pseudo-alpha-male-asshole personality that no one wants to be around, are the ones who are most at risk for depression, alienation, and acting out with violence against themselves and others.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/23 03:56 AM
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Why can’t it be enough for y’all to just be a person who lives their own life while being a friend and family member? Why do you quit because you’re not getting a pedestal for it?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 11:35 AM
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But we live in an obesogenic environment where the best way to lose weight and keep it off is to cut out a chunk of your gut. No, I did not make up that word myself. No, I’m also not kidding.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 10:32 AM
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If you control for confidence, good people have more options than bad ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 09:58 AM
2

There is no man who gets anyone he wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 06:09 PM
0

Trump and his kids are objectively repulsive even to a lot of Republican women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 09:01 AM
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Counterpoint: Trump has managed to convince multiple people to marry him, and his even-more-repulsive sons also managed to get married. So some women absolutely do care about money.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 03:00 PM
1

A sexy golden retriever, except one that is only friendly to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 01:57 PM
0

Sure just try to invalidate men's plight. Not misandry at all. Men’s plight of… not going to war in the US? Men have no fallbacks. They do if they have friends and family. Women have more support systems… Because women build support systems and invest time, energy, and emotion into relationships. Men expect that to just be handed to them. …alimony Very few women have alimony. …child support… Only women who have children, are separated, won settlements, and whose exes honor those settlements get …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 07:51 PM
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I agree with this. Most of my women friends are totally into their husbands, and most of us also think each other’s husbands are kind of ‘meh’ at best. We all have different criteria for hotness.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 08:00 AM
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Posting a guy’s own publicly available page, that he made, is not defamation.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 06:51 AM
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Men in the US, where most Reddit users are, are not “sent” to wars to die. Men are the majority of the homeless population because they’re the majority of drug abusers, the majority of the mentally ill, and the majority of people who cannot or will not fall back on family or friends when things get tough. Everyone is churned through shit jobs. It’s capitalism. Men are passed over in dating apps because women are fleeing dating apps because the experience is getting so toxic for them. If the app …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 06:50 AM
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It is a some humans problem. Not all humans value appearances and money over everything else. My husband’s best friend is kind of a short, dumpy guy and he’s been through several jobs in the years that I’ve known him, but his wife stuck by him and he stuck by her when she had health problems and eventually passed away. They’re (/were) both fantastic, kind people with great senses of humor and incredible generosity of spirit despite their problems. Furthermore, everyone gets old and everyone has …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 06:43 AM
2

95% of terp philosophy is projection.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 06:35 AM
2

‘…a woman who…’
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 06:33 AM
1

I am totally stealing “ARPALT.”
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 06:32 AM
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Sooo you risked having idiot kids so that your wife couldn’t call you out on your bullshit. Everything’s a trade-off, I guess…?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 06:23 AM
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Terp theory is basically cultic manipulation, so yes: the women in those relationships ‘don’t appreciate the ways their men treat them.’ I’ve seen more than one woman swear off of men altogether after escaping a relationship with a terp.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 06:20 AM
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Non sequitur
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 03:14 PM
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He’s on here whining about child support
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 09:20 AM
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Now imagine that the women are 50% bigger and all want sex, regardless of age, temperament, and looks. And imagine that they want to stop you and talk regardless of what else you might be doing, where you might be going, or how busy you are. Imagine a woman your mother’s age following you for a mile when you’re 15.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 06:42 AM
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Uh, no. This is one woman. She almost literally fits the average stats for her age range. ‘Average’ is a measure of the center of a population; pretty much everyone you see on tv or media is above average. Go shopping at a Walmart or Winco to see what IRL averages look like.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 05:53 AM
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Ummmm….yes? I have literally joined the crowd by participating in social media. Do you have a point?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 04:40 AM
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Same reason so many men are overweight and obese.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 03:15 AM
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1)that’s one woman, not ‘women.’ 2)she’s well within the average for an American woman. If you’re not aware of that, you’ve been spending too much time with women in media.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 03:14 AM
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Or C) she treats most people in a generally friendly manner, including you, and takes time to develop attraction to someone; she assumes that people are not romantically attracted to her, unless she receives obvious signs otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 09:27 AM
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snort Nothing to do with the fact that he’s been arrested for trafficking? Thou dost protest too much.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 09:00 AM
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It’s not you. Women learn to be cold and stand-offish to men starting before puberty.
/r/ExRedPill25/12/22 09:01 PM
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You say that you don’t think that women should stop fearing mean. Sooo… what? Do you think that women should start being more friendly and outgoing to people they’re afraid of? Or do you think that men should start being more rude to people that they’re afraid of?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/22 10:28 AM
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Porn books aren’t as bad as porn vids, but some are still suspect.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/22 06:47 PM
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Well, that is the majority of adult men, so yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/22 04:16 PM
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Well, men who try to emulate porn are bad in bed. You can’t really argue with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/22 04:15 PM
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As opposed to the opposite propaganda? NGL, the guy had an out and refused to take it. That is respectable.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/22 04:11 PM
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Yes, that goes without saying. But if terp dogma were so strongly against marriage, they should get a divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/22 10:43 AM
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Neither do they, according to terp dogma, if you’re right that it universally opposes marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/22 09:10 AM
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Zelenskyy is currently the secret heartthrob on about a quarter of the women in the US, while most have never even heard of the other guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/22 07:25 AM
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So? If women are incapable of love and ‘spinning plates’ is what they want, they should be honest about it and get a divorce, rather than pretending to love her and cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/22 07:21 AM
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If TRP is against marriage, they should not pretend to love their wives. They should just get a divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/22 07:09 AM
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I know the terms. I’m asking why it matters. Heterosexual women, statistically, get 65/86 of the orgasms per sex event that lesbians get. Since, in a culture where consent matters, women control the rate of sex, the number of sex events won’t be significantly different. It’s not that women can’t orgasm, it’s that men statistically aren’t as good as providing orgasms to women as other women are not as women are at doing it themselves. Based on a lot of testimony I’ve heard, there are a lot of men…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/22 05:28 AM
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So?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 09:21 PM
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It’s in a lot of articles about the issue. Edit: this is the first article I found. It’s 65% vs 85%, not half. https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10508-017-0939-z
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 08:58 PM
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The rate at which women masturbate does not change the fact that heterosexual women get half of the orgasms that lesbians do, not that women are better at giving themselves orgasms with dildos than men are with penises. All your numbers show are that women have a statistically lower sex drive than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 06:56 PM
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So?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 05:39 PM
2

Ok. Let’s say you’re right, for the sake of argument. Why does it matter?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 05:38 PM
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So… this is you trying to blame the victim/pretend that the orgasm gap isn’t important? Really? Why is it more important to you to make men beleaguered (‘most of his satisfaction comes from masturbating’) than to get better at sex with women?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 03:43 PM
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Good thing she didn’t claim to be doing math, nor would math be appropriate in this context.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 03:37 PM
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76%, according to this.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 03:37 PM
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That probably consists entirely of women over the age of 65, or those raised in such extreme religious cults that they’re convinced they’ll go to hell if they masturbate or have premarital sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 03:34 PM
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That doesn’t contradict what she said. A significant minority of men also don’t masturbate often. Probably has to do with age in both cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 03:28 PM
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That’s not what we’re talking about here.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 09:45 PM
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Have a good crew: guys who are good people, who are attractive in their own right as friends, regardless of physical attraction. Humans are social animals, and having friends is part of what makes us feel secure. Also, do NOT put your friends down in an attempt to make yourself look higher status within the group. That is just gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 09:31 PM
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Women need to lower their standards, you mean?🙄 Why does it always come down to how men are pathetic and women can’t expect more?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 06:26 PM
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Doesn’t matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 06:16 PM
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No young woman I have ever spoken with, including myself, has ever expressed a willingness to date or marry a man more than 10 years older than herself, regardless of his financial means. Most think that even that is too far. ‘Rich old man who wants to marry a young woman’ is the villain in quite a few books for young women. I didn’t say that there is anything wrong with being a trophy wife, or wanting a trophy wife. Or trophy husband. What is wrong - or, frankly, just stupid- is wanting a troph…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 03:48 PM
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So that ‘married red pill’ forum never existed? None of the terps on here so claim to be married actually are?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 11:20 AM
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No. If you’re a certain type of wealthy guy, who hangs with other couples of the same type, absolutely. If you’re a wealthy guy surrounded by women whose trust funds are bigger than yours? Not so much. If you’re a wealthy guy surrounded by power couples? Not so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 10:57 AM
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Terp men: ‘it’s so awful that women initiate most divorces!’ Also terp men: (seek out relationships with women vastly younger, when youth at marriage has one of the biggest statistical associations with divorce). Terp men: ‘it’s so awful that women only want high-earning men! Also terp men: (seek out professional trophy wives who see their appearance as a job, which their husband pays them for). Terp men: ‘it’s so awful that women always get custody of the children and alimony after divorce!’ Al…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 09:18 AM
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No one is talking about unattractive women, either.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 08:17 AM
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The instigating patron of which was just convicted of rape. Again.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 07:51 AM
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Any software engineers on here? How about designing an app that limits the amount of men to the number of women- you apply, and are randomly allowed in when someone leaves, or randomly get kicked off if the ratio stays changed for more than a week; everyone gets background checked and people with histories of fraud, SA, or other violence aren’t allowed in; everyone pays up front, and if you haven’t exchanged contact info for a year (via some toggle on the app), then you get your money back at th…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 07:50 AM
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Men are the paying customers of dating apps, and women are the product being sold; most apps are built to tantalize men into thinking there’s more of a chance of getting sex/relationships if they pay more. Women are only catered to, to the extent that it takes for them to not leave… only not even that, since women are fleeing dating apps in droves.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 07:44 AM
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We are built almost entirely of animal urges. It’s just that, for most of us, our prefrontal lobes regulate them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 07:36 AM
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There are a few behavioral aspects that have been studied - as in, a researcher lucks out and finds x genotype linked to k behavior (there are some closely related lovebirds that have distinct behaviors that appear in Mendelian patterns in hybrid offspring, for example). But yeah, it’s exquisitely difficult for most species, sw specially a species as behaviorally complex as humans.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 07:34 AM
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snort 1)that’s not evopsych, that’s pop psychology. 2)nobody needs to say anything about instincts to discredit the field of evolutionary psychology, at least as it existed around the aughts up to 2010 or so; it was full of just-so stories, polls of <50 WEIRD students extrapolated to all of humanity, studies with results that did not match the conclusion study designs that did not answer the question being asked, non-blinded research, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 07:30 AM
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I’m 5’4” when I wake up.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 07:37 PM
2

Very true. That’s an American perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 07:37 PM
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As someone who dated (and had sex with) a guy an inch shorter than me, I reject your assertions. His height wasn’t why I stopped seeing him, either. No need to lie or gaslight when our own experiences tell us you’re wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 04:26 PM
1

It’s old now, but I always liked the ‘Paging Dr. NerdLove’ podcast
/r/ExRedPill21/12/22 03:38 PM
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‘Doing more than the bare minimum’ = bathing, dressing, cleaning one’s own house, making decent food
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 03:37 PM
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It’s like you didn’t even read half of what he wrote🤦🏻‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 03:21 PM
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Because being filthy is uncomfortable? Because living in a clean house is nicer than living in a dirty house? Because healthy, tasty food is better than mac & cheese every night?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 03:18 PM
1

Mmmmmhmmmm
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 09:29 AM
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“…if you are a woman, learn how to attract and keep such a man, or die alone with cats.” LOL no. Jesus Christ, the most unrealistic of all of the terp myths is that these chuds are interesting for any reason other than the fact that they pay professional actresses and models to stand next to them in swimwear.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 02:12 PM
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As long as you’re willing to do what you’re asking of others, for the vast majority of asks, that’s ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 01:16 PM
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Maybe like 10% of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 01:15 PM
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Hmmmm why aren’t more families going bankrupt, then…? And why don’t you have a joint account? Isn’t both of your money, both of your money?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 10:24 AM
1

LOL that is not what the manosphere says.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 10:22 AM
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‘Women are the ones filing divorce papers 80% of the time’ != ‘women initiate 80% of breakups.’
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 10:19 AM
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Oh? What paradigm, if not that, inspired the words of the father of convicted rapist Brock Turner? Because we’ve all heard similar things spoken, though usually only on the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 10:17 AM
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It’s fine to ask a woman to shave her junk, if you also shave your junk.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 08:17 AM
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I love my husband, but he doesn’t even get the mail, much less open it. He does the paperwork associated with his job, and nothing else.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 08:11 AM
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‘A high price to pay for five minutes of tail.’ -the father of convicted rapist Brock Turner, after his conviction for rape. ‘Boys will be boys’ has also, always, been used to excuse almost anything men do for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 07:59 AM
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My husband is the pinnacle of creation, then.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 07:57 AM
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It is not. The data that supports if comes from dating apps, which do not represent real life because 1)the population on them is heavily skewed towards men (60% to 90% men) 2)the studies cited are never cited completely, or in context (women on OKC had algorithmic reasons to not rate anyone at the top; despite ratings, women mostly messaged in a bell curve, while men mostly messaged towards the top); women are leaving dating apps in a death spiral because the attention they get there is not hel…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 07:56 AM
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When the circle-jerk fora where mass shooters hang out get closed down every time there’s a mass shooting, they all come here.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 07:48 AM
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The idea that all women must be fucking all of the time, I guess because that’s what many men would be doing if they had the option. The idea that women are dependent on men, as if we don’t have our own jobs and lives; they seem to think we are like the female moths that just sit and wait for a male, because they can’t fly. The idea that we all want the same things in a man, and that the things that men find attractive in each other are what women find attractive in men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 07:46 AM
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The data do not support your assertion; what you are doing is pure projection. Men usually move on quickly, and initiate divorce to get together with their side piece. Women who initiate divorce say that they’re done with men forever, and often take years to get over that feeling. https://goodmenproject.com/featured-content/lets-talk-about-why-female-divorcees-dont-remarry/ https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2019/02/13/8-facts-about-love-and-marriage/
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 06:33 AM
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From every source I’ve seen, men move on much faster than women after divorce, and I have personally seen women holding doors for men with their hands full. I have held doors for men with their hands full. And the women I have seen speaking about ending relationships didn’t have ‘trivial’ reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 06:35 PM
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This doesn’t contradict anything she said. It’s just an ad hominem.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 03:41 PM
3

So are you saying that the whole stereotype of women being the more nurturing gender, overall, is false?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 03:31 PM
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I have declined to tell men why I wouldn’t go out with them in the past, for fear that they would learn to mask red flags that made me think that they would be bad partners for other women, as well. Telling a guy what’s wrong can be a betrayal of the sisterhood.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 03:21 PM
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TL,DR: ‘I’m a dude and I have zero personal experience in this, but the women who do have personal experience are wrong about their own lives and I know this because men are the logical sex and women are the emotional sex.’ 🙄 Emotional. Like freaking the fuck out when a woman turns you down? We’re not lying about it, dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 03:19 PM
1

Hey, sometimes they put on a clean shirt. That’s an effort, right? /s
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 03:07 PM
1

This is one of the stupidest headlines I’ve read in a while.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 01:22 PM
1

Married three years together eight
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 06:57 PM
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Single women with no kids, and old women, stayed behind. Women with children took their children out, appropriately. Couples should have been able to decide which of them would leave with the children, as some primary caregivers are fathers, but it’s appropriate to get kids out of a war zone.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 06:42 PM
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Imagine eagerly looking forward to the collapse of civilization and the end of medical care, so that some people will be more dependent again. Arm up, ladies. This is the kind of man who will be around when things fall apart.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 01:19 PM
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By that metric (cherry-picked anecdotes) the radical feminists who say that all men are rapists addicted to violent porn are also right. Every single woman you’ve ever met has been sexually harassed; most have been assaulted; a large minority have been raped. Most of us don’t go for the ‘AMALT’ trap, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 05:58 PM
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If women who are paid to stand around in the background are ‘whoring themselves out,’ so is everyone who makes a paycheck.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 08:02 PM
1

I’ve met men whom I instantly thought were attractive (including my husband), but none whom I was instantly sexually attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 08:58 AM
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The part where OP doesn’t mention it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 01:20 PM
1

According to OP, I ‘rape’ my dad by being his daughter.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 01:20 PM
1

As the adopted daughter of a man not my biological father, fuck you. Go to hell.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 12:25 PM
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Depends on the woman, depends on the man, and depends on the mental illness. One of my students at the dojo I used to teach at had Tourette’s, and he would occasionally burst out with nonsense words or random movements that he just couldn’t control. He had the right personality to turn it into a joke, though, and was otherwise a talented martial artist. Being one of his teachers was one of the most rewarding things I’ve ever done. He had made it to shodan before I left California, at (I think) a…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 08:04 AM
1

Woooowwwww you really can turn anything into, ‘women bad, men martyrs,’ can’t you?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 07:46 AM
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Not a straw man. It happens. Men also leave wives when they get ill far more often than women leave men when they get ill. It’s not a straw man if it’s true.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 03:09 PM
1

Wow, straw man much?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 10:55 AM
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On the contrary, it think that men are just exactly as human as I am, and just exactly as capable of restraint as I am. Men are not children and should not be treated as children. Men are human adults and should be held to the standards of human adults, just like women are.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 10:28 AM
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Men do drop the mothers of their children when they’re being woken every hour to change diapers and have no energy for anything, or when they have the audacity to age or get ill.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 03:15 AM
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Can’t quite tell what you’re trying to say there, so I will only say that there are plenty of ‘females’ for any man who wants simple companionship and not just sex: female cats, female dogs, female horses, whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 03:38 PM
1

Women are responsible for their own actions. They are not responsible for their husband’s actions, and they are not responsible aging instead of offing themselves while conveniently still beautiful and therefore sympathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 08:56 AM
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It’s not all one or the other. The two are not mutually exclusive. In general, rape within tribes is not common. It is far more likely to be used as a tool of war and domination.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 07:56 AM
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Female choice is a thing, you know.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 12:46 PM
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Dudes like you always think that they’re ‘just being honest, and all men are actually like me but they’re not all honest.’ Thankfully, I’ve consumed enough media by men, for men, that shows that not all men are alike. Every rapist you’ve ever met thinks that you’re a rapist too, and that you’re just not honest about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 10:05 AM
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Was she the one who actually filed, or was it you?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 09:59 AM
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So if a 40 year old leaves his wife for a younger woman, it’s his wife’s fault. Got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 06:24 AM
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Kind of disappointed how many men here are ok with coercion, economic or otherwise, and how may men think that single women aren’t financially just fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 02:33 AM
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Group competition only works when the group is a genetically closely related family- ie, very small- and that represents a tiny, tiny piece of human evolution.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 02:03 AM
1

Re-establish a celibate priesthood as a socially acceptable alternative.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 02:00 AM
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1)no slut shaming or devaluation of women who have sex. 2)equal burden on men to be responsible for birth control. 3)100% effective birth control that can be purchased over the counter with zero stigma 4)no STIs 5)Abortion in cases of health issues (since there would be no unwanted pregnancies, due to the 100% effective and accessible birth control) inexpensive, painless, and easily accessible 6)comprehensive, non-blamey sex Ed for all teens, starting with basic anatomy in grade school and progr…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 06:28 PM
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In much of the world, motherhood is still forced on women. If you agree that men also benefit from having children, why shouldn’t they also suffer the financial impacts thereof? Why do fathers benefit from having kids, financially, while mothers suffer? Again: why not make actual 50/50 custody the norm? But no calling mom ‘when you have a really important meeting, but the kid is sick.’ No calling mom when dad is sick too. No calling mom when he wants to go on vacation. She doesn’t get those thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 06:19 PM
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Women choose to have children, and in doing so sacrifice their careers. Again, don’t pretend that men don’t benefit from it, and don’t pretend that men don’t know it. There’s a reason women don’t reproduce at replacement levels when they’re given a choice: it’s not worth it emotionally, financially, or socially… and if you think that’s “selfish,” you’re conceding my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 06:03 PM
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Most men also desire children. Don’t pretend that this is something that women do out of selfishness, or that men don’t benefit from. Don’t pretend that men only knock women up out of some sense of charity. Do not pretend that caring for children is all rainbows and unicorns, either; it is work. Young women with no children actually out learn their male peers of similar education. The wage gap is almost entirely due to the motherhood penalty. Women who never have kids have similar earnings to me…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 05:53 PM
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Statistically, it’s the fact that the woman sacrificed building her career to care for children, and continues to do so after a divorce. A few states are now applying 50/50 custody as a default in divorces, and by and large men either demand that the woman still do the parenting work when it’s supposed to be ‘his’ time (eg, telling the school to call the mother to take a sick kid home, rather that coming out of work himself to do so), or, more rarely, finding that it’s a lot harder on both his p…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 05:24 PM
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financially, women do worse after a divorce. However, their quality of life and longevity improve (if they don’t remarry).
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 04:01 PM
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shrug Don’t get married if you don’t want to get married. Just be up front about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 11:02 AM
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There are plenty of women who are just as into their own looks as these guys are, and they can date each other. It’s kind of funny how insecure people are -like, gasp! There might be even a few people who don’t think that my particular look, or my particular fetish, is universal?!?!??????
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 06:54 AM
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🤷🏻‍♀️I got what I want, so I couldn’t really care less what your opinion of me is.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 06:53 AM
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Same here except for the body hair😜
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 04:56 PM
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Ah, look. Another dudebro telling other people that they don’t know what they actually want. You sound like someone who likes the most popular form or porn telling anyone who likes other genres that they’re just watching the other stuff to ‘virtue signal.’ Not everyone likes exactly the same things. Some people can be ok with the median most attractive thing, but other things just do it for them more. I like dadbod because of what it means: a dude who has a life, and shit to do other than sweat …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 04:54 PM
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It’s funny that you think that’s what’s happening, but 🤷🏻‍♀️ You get the last word. This is boring.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 03:23 PM
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They’re all career sacrifices. Even if they’re working a 9-5, they could be moving from cashier to lead cashier, etc, and getting an annual pay increase each year. And even if that we’re not the case, that’s still tens of thousands of dollars, every year, that they are not getting because they’re at home.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 10:04 AM
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Nope, I don’t need any advice. Have a nice life :)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 10:01 AM
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If a man says that his ex “took half of his money,” what that means is that he chose to marry a woman who was content to be a SAHM, and was likely happy to have a SAHM, without acknowledging that she was sacrificing her current and future earnings for their mutual family. All of the income a couple makes while they are married is mutual income. If his wife had happened to buy a winning lottery ticket with the pin money she made selling cookies at the symphony once a month, or whatever, that woul…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 06:11 PM
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Nope:) Learning how to avoid y’all is part of why I started coming here in the first place. I married a man with only green flags.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 06:03 PM
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Tate is repulsive, and has to pay women to hang out with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 03:22 PM
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Hang out on here and in other fora like men’s rights, and you start to pick up on some of the key concepts and phrases. Most people aren’t good liars, and they’ll drop key phrases or display attitudes towards certain topics. Examples are men saying ‘my ex wife took half of my money,’ which basically means that he thinks that career-less women should take care of the house and kids for free, or even that these things are ‘gifts’ that he has given her and that she should be grateful for, and just …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 03:19 PM
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😂
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 10:15 AM
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Sure, if parthenogenesis were possible. The dude’s genes benefit from her pregnancy, if she keeps the kid. Therefore he gets to contribute to the kid’s upkeep.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 11:03 PM
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He’s either lying to you, or he’s lying to his ‘friend.’ Either way, he’s a liar.
/r/ExRedPill30/11/22 08:44 PM
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Uh… by ‘guilting men into subsidizing your bad decisions,’ you mean ‘stop guilting men into sharing the responsibility when you are having sex with them.’
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 08:36 PM
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It’s pretty easy and safe to bank semen; not so to bank eggs.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 08:35 PM
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It’s basically, ‘if I don’t have a choice about what I do after I get pregnant, then I’m going to choose not to sleep with fertile men.’ It’s not rocket science. FWIW, I’m also seeing a lot of posts by young women saying that they’ve jumped through the hoops to get their tubes tied, as well. In general, doctors are more likely to accede to a man requesting sterilization than a woman, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 08:33 PM
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I pretty much only ever talk about it on this forum, in response to men asking why women won’t lower their standards and in response to men claiming that women can’t be happy without men. 🤷🏻‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 10:00 PM
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Love is not simply ‘stronger attraction.’ Jesus, that’s one of the stupidest things I’ve read today.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 02:52 PM
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Terps aren’t capable of trust, nor of being trustworthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 01:43 PM
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So men are uglier and don’t do anything to correct it? I can agree with that😂
/r/ExRedPill27/11/22 01:24 PM
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The same question applies to the OP. Regardless, I don’t think all men are hideous, just that they by and large do not take care of their health or their appearance like women do.
/r/ExRedPill27/11/22 12:47 PM
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When men use porn terminology to describe the women they don’t like, or other insulting terms.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 07:36 AM
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Women older than high schoolers virtually never become angry when approached by men, because they’ve had the experience of dudes losing their ducking shit from even the mildest of rejections.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 07:34 AM
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Men often describe women’s attractiveness using porn terminology, as if it’s a kink that they are, or are not, into. They’re honestly probably completely oblivious to how disgusting this is to women not involved in porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 07:31 AM
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snort you think having kids means you’ll have someone to take care of you when you’re old?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 09:40 PM
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And I’m sure that the converse isn’t the case with OP 🙄
/r/ExRedPill26/11/22 09:39 PM
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It was considered to be obvious at the advent of the locomotive that speeds faster than 30mph were completely unnatural and would be fatal or cause insanity for humans. You’ve gone from the naturalistic fallacy to special pleading.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 09:31 PM
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No species naturally builds vehicles or travels 65 mph, therefore building vehicles and traveling 65 mph are wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 11:02 AM
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Wow, it’s like you didn’t comprehend anything I wrote.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 10:44 AM
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It’s funny, but I see the opposite: average to good-looking women with schlumps in hoodies and cargo shorts.
/r/ExRedPill26/11/22 10:19 AM
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How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 10:13 AM
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I’m a biologist. And no, the lion and the silverback are ‘heads’ only in the sense that they are dominant males with breeding rights. They don’t decide where the pride goes every day, they don’t lead (or even always participate in) hunts, and they don’t control when lionesses come and go. You’re anthropomorphizing. Humans are a different matter, and yes, human males have been dominant throughout most of history- often using violence, because of the size disparity. However, ‘is’ does not equal ‘o…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 10:13 AM
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That wasn’t a personal insult, it was impatience.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 08:37 PM
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“Designated by nature”😂😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 05:31 PM
1

Don’t pretend to be stupider than you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 05:29 PM
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Oh, values are being instilled. Just not ones you care about.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 05:28 PM
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The people who teach them history != the people who cuddle them, nurse them, comfort their wounds, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 04:31 PM
1

Are those kids really theirs?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 11:09 AM
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Of course ‘life isn’t fair.’ The universe doesn’t GAF about humans. That’s not an excuse for humans to deliberately make it worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 11:08 AM
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Time is a resource. The ‘people who have resources at their disposal’ hire nannys and Au Pairs.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 10:49 AM
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Plenty of females are pro-family right now. Human women less so. And yeah, ‘doing what needs to be done’ has been used to justify pretty much every atrocity in human history. The ends don’t justify the means, the means are the ends.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 10:47 AM
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snort Re-read what you just wrote a few times, my friend. I can say exactly the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 10:45 AM
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It’s one of the few things that young men and young women agree on.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 10:42 AM
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Thanks for the permission🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 10:40 AM
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snort No, it will do the opposite. No one wants to have kids that they can’t afford to take care of. Many of the women having no, or only one, child right now say that they would like more, but they just can’t afford it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 10:36 AM
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🤷🏻‍♀️the women I know who were forced to care for siblings as children, rather than being allowed to be children themselves, all have an absolute loathing of kids and are absolutely determined to never have them themselves. So the net reproduction of their parents still isn’t great.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 10:35 AM
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Japanese and Chinese mothers are virtually enslaved to domesticity after they have children. I don’t blame them for wanting to eschew it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 10:33 AM
2

Sure, force your kids to take care of your kids🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 03:22 AM
2

That puts you right on the median, if you don’t have kids. https://www.zippia.com/advice/average-american-income/
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 01:31 AM
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Resources are limited. Every next child takes from the ones that already exist, even in something as simple as parental time and patience.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 01:21 AM
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It’s self-interest, not stupidity. Haven’t you seen the bumper stickers, “If you can’t feed ‘em, don’t breed ‘em”? People are just taking that to heart, with the addition of decent housing , schools, and other basic requirements for a decent start in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 01:20 AM
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Americans actually did invade Iraq. ‘Women cannot be in power because women have never been in power, but also women actually are in power,’ is a conspiracy theory.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 01:13 AM
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Sure. Children are a luxury and a trade-off. And they don’t want to limit the resources for their first child by having a second or third.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 11:52 PM
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Yes, that would make it even better/s Seriously, unhappily married parents are not better than single parents, and women forced to have children they do not want do not make good mothers.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 11:51 PM
1

It’s ‘family income.’
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 11:49 PM
1

MTG is a baaaaaad example for ‘women who don’t sleep around.’
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 08:59 PM
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They have slightly better birth rates, but still not at population-replacement level. Until a second child doesn’t mean fewer resources for the first, women who fall in love with their first child won’t have more.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 08:49 PM
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LOL Yeah, it has been the women (or the Jews/immigrants/illuminati/whatever) pulling the strings all along! Not the white dudes who have actually been in power the entire time!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 08:44 PM
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If women enjoyed it and wanted it more than they enjoy and want careers and education, they wouldn’t need to be socially coerced into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 08:40 PM
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“Strongly encourage” Sure, slavery creates wealth for everyone but the slaves.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 08:39 PM
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Annnnnd watch pretty much any woman with the option to do so, get herself permanently sterilized.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 08:36 PM
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The wealthy have more control over their own lives, and are more confident that their fewer children will survive to adulthood. That is a good thing, not a bad thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 08:33 PM
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Get rid of social welfare systems that prop up/encourage women to leave relationships (like alimony and WIC/food stamps) Yeah, that will increase the birth rate. /s Make DNA testing mandatory for all children born in the US so women can’t get away with paternity fraud Paternity fraud is virtually non-existent in places where women choose their own mates, but sure. I don’t actually have a problem with this, as it helps to compensate for some of the biological inequality men face in reproduction. …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 08:29 PM
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^ pretty much this.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 08:19 PM
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Why do you suppose women want fewer children as they get more education and power? Maybe they realize having kids is a raw deal for most women…?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 08:17 PM
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$90K puts your friend in the upper middle class. https://dqydj.com/average-median-top-household-income-percentiles/
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 08:14 PM
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The people complaining about one are generally not the same as the people complaining about the other. If they are the same, they’re generally pretty openly racist about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 08:09 PM
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Sure, that will solve the reproduction crisis! /s
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 08:08 PM
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If by ‘do something,’ you mean, ‘coerce women into having more children than they want with men they do not want,’ No.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 08:07 PM
3

First off, a note on human women’s biology. 1)vaginal lubrication is produced at certain times of the month regardless of stimulation. 2)vaginal lubrication is often produced at the thought of sex, regardless of attraction or lack thereof. It is a defensive precaution by the body, as ‘dry’ sex is more likely to lead to tearing and infection. 3)Even when a woman is turned on by a situation, she doesn’t necessarily want to have sex then and there. She can be very turned on by the man she’s dating,…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 12:26 PM
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When you ask a woman ‘what she finds attractive,’ she’s going to tell you about traits shared by the dudes she’s had crushes on up to that point. She’s not wrong about that, but it also doesn’t preclude her from developing a crush on someone with slightly different traits in the future. Or from the traits she’s attracted to changing. Or from being really impresses with a spectacular example of a guy with other qualities.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 04:49 AM
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You mean there might be more than one type of person a given woman is attracted to!!!!??!?!???! Gasp!!!!! You don’t say!!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 09:18 AM
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Men: “women, what are you attracted to?” Women: “X, y, z, and q.” Men: “Nuh-uh! I have q, and women won’t drop trou for me within five minutes of meeting!”
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 02:33 AM
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No change, nothing new. You will get the last word, because you are boring and I am done here.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 10:06 AM
1

Something kind of world-altering happened between the present and 2016. Women and their jobs were heavily caught up in a significant proportion of it. Your devaluation of any work done by women was noted. It’s just not worth responding to.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 05:56 PM
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No argument. Just amazed you would speak that way about your own mother.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 03:33 PM
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CNN and USA Today are “feminist sources”? LOL Talk about grasping at straws And then you counter with an article from 2016😂
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 03:31 PM
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And likewise, men are as capable as women of being good. Hold everyone to the same high standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 11:28 AM
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Good bot
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 11:27 AM
2

Does your mother know how much contempt you have for her?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 11:27 AM
2

After my parents split, my dad decided after a few weeks that he wanted more contact with my brother and I. He asked for it, and got it no contest. I know now that he’s in the minority- most divorced dads don’t even take the visitation they’re granted, much less ask for more.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 11:26 AM
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The unemployment rate is currently at record lows; the pandemic drove far more women than men out of the workforce, due to the closing of schools and child care centers, and it is their employment that has not recovered since. https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2022/08/21/gender-gap-jobs-economy-covid/7847271001/?gnt-cfr=1 https://nwlc.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/FINAL-NWLC-Resilient-But-Not-Recovered-3.29.22.pdf https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/18/perspectives/women-jobs-recovery-pandemic/index…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 11:21 AM
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The whole makeup thing, for one, and the ‘agents of chaos’ thing, for another.
/r/ExRedPill19/11/22 12:26 PM
1

“Most” men in the US still end up partnered by 40. An significant minority don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 10:17 AM
1

Just ‘not a NEET’ would be a start.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 10:47 PM
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Women: have degrees and jobs, also want men who have degrees and jobs. Men: women are so picky! They offer nothing!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 12:40 PM
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snort keep digging. I’ve already said that I’m not attracted to obese people. There’s nothing wrong with that; you can’t change what you’re attracted to. Hell, plenty of people are attracted to extremely thin people, who are objectively unhealthier that people at a similar degree of overweight. Nothing wrong with that, either, though they’re often deluding themselves into thinking that it’s “healthy.” The problem is when you try to make your fetishes into a morality statement when you’re objecti…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 02:45 PM
1

Pro-life? Yes, absolutely. Want to return to the 1950’s? Not so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 02:40 PM
2

Non sequitur. It could be that women are selective, or it could be that women have been traditionally seen as the spoils of war and raping spoils was not a crime until recently.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 04:47 AM
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Ah, so it’s a way for you to feel smug and better than other people. Got it. No use arguing facts then.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 04:11 AM
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That want to go back to a time when women were servants, with no control over their own lives? Really? Do you have a citation for that?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 04:10 AM
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If you have lost a significant amount of weight, and kept it off for >5 years, let alone >10 years, you are in a very, very tiny minority of people. On a public health level, saying ‘if I could do it, anyone could do it,’ is actually, statistically, worse in this case than telling teenagers to ‘just don’t have sex’ to prevent teen pregnancies and STIs. It doesn’t work. I’ve talked to a LOT of people who have tried over and over to lose weight and keep it off, and it doesn’t work for them. Statis…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 03:08 PM
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The 1950’s? When women couldn’t have their own credit cards, couldn’t buy their own homes, and were forbidden from many science programs at university, unless they were absolutely prodigies? When women couldn’t control their own health care? Yeahhhhh, no thank you. In a population big enough , ‘many’ can be ‘less than 1%.’
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 02:34 PM
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That’s true, but there are a lot of things one can do to stack the deck in one’s favor.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 08:41 PM
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I got married with the intent of it being ‘until death do we part.’ I think most people do the same. People who don’t intend to stay together no longer have the social obligation to get married, if that’s not what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 06:58 PM
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Or they tell you about what they value for LTRs because they want you to succeed long term, rather than what they valued for hookups.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 05:26 PM
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Just as it is a greater crime when a police officer breaks the law than when a civilian does it, so it is a greater crime when someone who should have your back murders you, than when a stranger does it. Also, my point was not ‘men haven’t suffered,’ my point was that ‘women’s baseline has also, historically, been zero.’ What was that you said about empathy…?
/r/MensRights12/11/22 05:13 PM
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Animals in controlled environments. They’re getting fatter despite having external limits on how much they eat. Chimpanzees- the animals most like humans- are getting even fatter than other primates. Statistically, the only way to lose and keep off significant amounts of weight is major abdominal surgery with a ridiculous, by modern standards, rate of morbidity and mortality. You don’t have to be attracted to fat people. I’m not. But the data do not support the claim that being fat is voluntary …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 01:51 PM
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That was one of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 01:17 PM
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It’s like you didn’t even notice the links
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 10:23 AM
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Even if that were the case- if even monkeys in controlled settings we’re not getting fatter- even if it weren’t true that people eating the same and exercising just as much are still fatter than people 50 years ago- that doesn’t alter the hypocrisy of insisting that women lower their standards to date you, but refusing to do the same yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 11:03 PM
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LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 09:45 PM
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Reading comprehension
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 09:44 PM
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I didn’t assume hypocrisy existed, just that the possibility of it was there. It is very common for incels and terps to put dictates on women without accepting the same for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 03:54 PM
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I don’t agree with the OP; I’m just asking them to not be a hypocrite about their arguments.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 02:02 PM
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Tell this to the incels who refuse to date fat women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 01:46 PM
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The 40 most desirable women can find a desirable man to be in an exclusive relationship with, if they want it, and for most women, exclusive relationships are more desirable than on-exclusive ones or ONSs.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 11:45 AM
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By ‘more attractive,’ do you mean, ‘better able to have many ONSs?’ Because that’s not going to happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 11:59 AM
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1)’all of the biggest theories and achievements in the past were made by men.’ 2)’Because women were prohibited from anything besides domestic work.’ 1)‘That’s because women never achieved anything or had any great theories.’ 🙄 Dude. Do you honestly not see a problem with that line of reasoning?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 11:24 AM
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Through history, women were prohibited from owning property, leadership, and study, which wasted their brains and talents and largely prohibited them from doing great things, unless they had a convenient brother or husband to steal the credit. They were often treated as disposable trash, or even expensive trash, in cultures with dowries, leading to female infanticide, the physical stunting of girls (leading to higher mortality in childbirth, because of insufficient hip girdles), child marriage, …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 10:13 AM
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‘Hope’ is only necessary because they have destroyed it in the first place. ‘This is how awful it is, only I can help you.’
/r/ExRedPill09/11/22 05:23 PM
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All of those terp guys, though, are telling men that women are contemptible and illogical, but they have the answer. Just $500 for a weekend. If women and men are basically the same, but operating under different circumstances external pressures- then dating suddenly becomes less scary. Women vary from person to person, just like men do. You can take the same souls (or whatever) and put them into a large bodies that make sperm or small bodies that make ova and gestate, and you’ll basically get n…
/r/ExRedPill09/11/22 04:18 PM
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Hatred, fear, and blame sells ‘dating’ workshops, gold, and vitamin supplements. I think there probably are women who are only attracted to ‘dominant, alpha’ men, but personally I’ve always liked the collaborative guys. Humanity’s strength has always been in cooperation, from hunting lions, to herding, to building walls to keep out the Mongolians. Picking a man who works well in a group means you get some of the protection of the group, and (again as a personal anecdote) men working together and…
/r/ExRedPill09/11/22 03:51 PM
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snort That’s a bit like complaining that average people aren’t represented in Disney movies. They’re also not represented in action movies, where there may be one woman as a romantic interest for the male lead, or there may not. Hollywood does not represent reality. What else is new?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 02:38 AM
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LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 11:30 AM
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Men can be raped by women, using objects.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 04:03 AM
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Like I said. Your own, MRA, ideosyncraric definition of rape. Edit: also, you dropped a 272 page report as ‘evidence’ without citing a page number, just basically asserting that it backs you, and you also used a straw-man definition of rape as the alternative for your version. Not honest argumentation.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 02:20 AM
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“Initial romantic interest” is not the same as ‘willing to drop trou on the spot.’ Also, the ‘average woman’ IS overweight, in the US. If you don’t want to study to make ‘attractive’ money, you can also study art and music to be a romantic starving artist or musician. For those of you only interested in ONSs, starving artists (or rich ones, for that matter) are notoriously successful at getting sex without strings.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 03:30 PM
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Not an assumption. Numbers. Not to mention how many of us who have had guy friends make excuses for sketchy-as-fuck dudes that no woman in the friend group would voluntarily be caught alone with, dead or alive.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 03:27 PM
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Even with that assumption- something I absolutely agree with, btw- there are still a lot of dudes out there who are ‘friends’ with rapists. Who tell their girlfriends and girl friends, ‘hey, don’t let Brock get under your skin so much, he’s just like that.’ Guys who are the reason that it takes the testimony of more men in an American court to convict a rapist than in a Sharia court.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 03:25 PM
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‘One in five women will be raped in her lifetime, and yet somehow no men are friends with rapists.’ And yes, we do see men joking about rape. Cosby, for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 11:56 AM
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Start by unfriending dudes who speak of women and girls as prey, or who speak with the assumption that any man would rape any woman if he knew he could get away with it. Most rapists think that all men are rapists, partly because they have friends who laugh at rape jokes. Treat women as human beings with bodily autonomy in other ways. If you’re alone with a strange woman and you have no logical reason to interact with her, don’t. Just keep fucking walking. Make enough eye contact to acknowledge …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 11:31 AM
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Simply not harming us would be a start.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 11:25 AM
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That’s not what OP was talking about. Very few women ‘wander alone down dark alleys,’ and yet 1:5 women will be raped in her lifetime. A quarter of rape victims were (first) raped before the age of 10. What does a kid do to ‘ask for’ rape? https://www.icrw.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/Gender-Stat-Child-Sexual-Abuse-pdf.pdf
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 09:55 AM
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You’re equating women’s existence in a space with men waving money around.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 09:50 AM
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It’s not ‘according to the CDC,’ it’s ‘according to MRAs who have re-defined rape and then applied that new definition to CDC data.’ Likewise, MRAs say ‘women commit as much DV as men,’ and it’s true if and only if you include ‘yelling at your spouse’ as ‘DV.’
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 09:47 AM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/yjl89p/hypergamy_is_making_men_marry_women_even_without/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 05:42 PM
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Men often will not alter the way that they live for their families, and they will not endure any amount of privation or suffering for their families. They don’t want to participate in home or child care more than if they were living alone, and If things get too hard, they leave or kill themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 03:37 PM
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There have been men on this sub, within the last week talking about how men commonly marry women whom they do not love.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 11:30 AM
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Not to mention staying with partners whom they know are likely to murder them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 11:28 AM
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I think women are more willing to die for any children.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 11:28 AM
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Men may be willing to die for their families, but they are rarely willing or able to live for them in either the literal or metaphorical sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 11:27 AM
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I agree that marriage should be a partnership , and that the needs and wants of both partners should be respected. I also think that neither party should lie or deliberately mislead by omission or implication. That’s not terp philosophy or practice, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 03:30 AM
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Not a unicorn. I am average in almost every way, and most of my friends are/were similar to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 02:21 PM
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LOL Disney exists
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 08:46 AM
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I don’t think it’s a majority.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 08:45 AM
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That’s great for you. Many of us, however, couldn’t give a rat’s ass for traditional gender roles. They are not natural for us. So are we, as the trans activists would have it, ‘non-binary’ or ‘transgender’ for being ‘non-conforming’? Or maybe do the roles just not apply to all, or even most, of us?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 03:32 AM
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If you’re looking for a business arrangement , make it clear. As for the rest, you’re begging the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 02:15 AM
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They don’t make hard copies any more, but there’s still a market for them: https://www.ebay.com/b/Victorias-Secret-Catalogs/118254/bn_7115656313
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 09:49 PM
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‘The red pill isn’t like that.’
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 09:41 PM
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TL,DR: ‘I betrayed my wife, whom I purport to love, because she wouldn’t let me gag her with semen any more,’
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 02:55 PM
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Not really.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 02:33 PM
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If I found out that my husband had been lying every time he said, ‘I love you,’ I would ask for a divorce. If you’re just using a woman for the bennies, you shouldn’t get married unless she’s absolutely clear with and ok on that, AND you’re ok with her doing the same to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 02:33 PM
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Uh, what? Where did that come from?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 02:09 PM
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Romance and fun are part of the right choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 01:41 PM
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I’m married. My husband is fantastic in bed. I wouldn’t have married him if I hadn’t found him attractive, or if he just jackhammered on me with no concern for how I perceived the experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 01:33 PM
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sigh The point was that younger dudes won’t be attracted to me if I complement them. I guess I’ll have to shut up for a few more years. 🤦🏻‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 01:30 PM
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Will post and edit as I find pics, because the app closes while I was searching and I lost the original version of my response. 1)Hollywood sets the standard. 2)6packs are attractive to gay men and people who like gym rats. They are not attractive in and of themselves, and that low level of body fat (especially if accompanied by dehydration for extra muscle definition) is not healthy. Especially not in women. https://www.themakeupgallery.info/fantasy/alien/st/kling/marash.htm Attractive woman… w…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 01:02 PM
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Arranged marriages have extremely high rates of extra-pair paternity, compared to places where women have financial independence and the ability to select their own mates.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 12:25 PM
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In my experience, the opposite happened. Men whom I had crushes on (which I mercilessly smothered, because I was shy) in high school almost always because UNattractive when/if I got to know them better. There are a LOT of men- often men attached to friends or family- about whom I think, ‘my friend really likes you, and you’re not awful to look at, but I could NOT live with you. I hang out with you for their sake.’ But that’s ok. We’re all unique people with our own kinks/preferences and our own …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 12:23 PM
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1)Less than 10 years older than her 2)Not living with his parents; has a job or volunteers; and/or pays his own share of rent, utilities, and groceries (ie, not a freeloader). Even ‘not living with parents’ is negotiable, IF he is doing it for frugality (ie, saving up) rather than necessity, if his parents need the extra help/care, or if he comes from a non-western culture where that’s the norm. 2)Respects women as fellow human beings/not abusive. 3)within 1SD of ‘healthy’ weight. 4)basic hygien…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 12:12 PM
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According to multiple posters over on 2X, wanting to not be yelled at by one’s partner, and wanting to dictate one’s own clothing choices, is ‘insane.’ Or ‘Living in a fantasy,’ according to the post I’m thinking of.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 12:05 PM
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How romantic. /s If you’re comparing yourself to ‘eating vegetables,’ then you need to find yourself a vegetarian who actually likes vegetables, not force a carnivore to choke you down for their gut health.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 12:01 PM
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1)women (and men) are attracted to what they’re attracted to. Kirk was supposed to be the hot one, but there were just as many Trek fans who liked Spock or McCoy. Likewise, some men like waifs, some men like T&A, and some like everything in between. I do think that you’re right that we eventually discover that some of the things we thought were important, turn out not to be. However, the average dating app has 9 men for every woman. That means that she can pick the best of her 9, for her. It’s t…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 11:59 AM
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TL,DR: ‘I’m ok with a woman that just lets me masturbate with her body once a month.’
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 11:55 AM
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I’m starting to get older, and one of the benefits of that is that I can be more honest with men technically young enough to be my son.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 11:14 AM
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William Shatner didn’t have a sixpack when he took his shirt off, and some of the women brought in as sexpots had visible fat on their faces and chins. Any of those would be absolutely disqualifying in today’s Hollywood. Deforest Kelly was too old, and Leonard Nimoy too lanky/not muscled enough (ie, he was a normal man). James Doohan was visibly ‘overweight’ even then. Greek statues depicted gods and the sons and daughters of gods, and Olympic athletes, not the body aspirations of normal people.…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 11:09 AM
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Go ahead and tell me that the men buying subscriptions to Victoria’s Secret catalogs aren’t doing so because they find the models attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 11:01 AM
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Underwear models absolutely are the male gaze. Victoria’s Secret makes more money selling catalogs to men than it does selling actual underwear.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 02:28 PM
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Underwear models are. They’re now not quite as death camp-chique as they used to be, but they’re still regularly photoshopped to remove their rib cages (or may actually have ribs removed).
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 02:21 PM
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Except the beauty standards are not based on actual health or fertility. Just to take a couple of examples, runway models were literally dropping dead from starvation a decade ago, so the industry got together and made minimum standards for how thin someone could be… so they started using prepubescent girls to model, instead. I was shopping for wedding dresses a few years ago, and the models were all like 13 years old. It was fucking gross. It used to be common to see billboards with models whos…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 01:39 PM
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That’s just not the case. Body types, and what has been considered ideal, have changed dramatically with time. Look, for example, at the actors and actresses from Star Trek TOS- all much more body fat than is considered acceptable today. What’s fascinating, though, is that you look at pictures of average people on the streets fem the same era, and everyone was much thinner than average people today.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 01:29 PM
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?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 12:41 PM
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Casual sex happens for Enron for the same reason that it happens for men: women get horny, and want sex. It might take a couple of tries before she realizes that hookups aren’t doing anything for her? Because it’s always ‘good for her too’ in the media.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 10:28 AM
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Many do. Hence why men have such a hard time getting it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 10:26 AM
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r/confidentlyincorrect
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 10:25 AM
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he was mad at me bc when they did arrive, i saw my mom fine, and i cried bc i was scared, he just looked at me, silently judging me bc of not understanding that i should be calmed now that everything was over. Meanwhile, my mom was mad bc of the money, yet she hugged me anyway bc she understood that i was still processing what happened. Scammers suck. Also, your parents kind of sound like jerks. Women will feel respect for how you feel, but they will still try to punish you for as many actions a…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 10:21 AM
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Ok, what needs do men have, that women do not? Because women can meet all of their own needs by themselves and with other women and pets.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 09:51 AM
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Most of the women I know who are single, are contentedly so. And they’re not going out and having sex with strangers every week, either. They’re just content and happy (single moms, not so much). We don’t get why men can’t also be content single.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 02:39 AM
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It sure AF applies to disclosing if she has an STI or a crazy ex who will try to kill him. If it’s a potential LTR, yeah she should disclose that; if it’s a ONS, then mens’ stated reason for caring (‘that it makes it harder for her to bond’) doesn’t apply.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 10:39 PM
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Note the word “mostly.” These stereotypes are based on reality. More men that women like sports and beer, and more women than men like rom-coms. Not that that actually touches my point at all.
/r/ExRedPill31/10/22 10:36 PM
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It’s changing in some jurisdictions. Johns used to be just let off, or ‘stings’ would be male officers pretending to purchase sex, which doesn’t even attempt to catch Johns. Letting the John walk when you arrest the prostitute means being a John is de facto legal, regardless of the statute.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 02:59 PM
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It’s a sign of extreme inequality that being a prostitute is illegal in most places, and paying a prostitute either is not, or de facto is not. It is a sign of extreme inequality that underage girls sex-trafficked into prostitution are charged with a crime when they are caught, rather than taken to CPS. It’s a sign of extreme inequality that many men use the word ‘pimp’ as a compliment.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 08:50 AM
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If you know it is important and relevant for the other person to know, yes. Would it be dishonest to sell a car without telling the buyer that it had just been in a crash, and had been cosmetically repaired but would soon require an additional several thousand in additional repairs? Yes. Not only dishonest, but illegal in many US states. I also think that trans people should disclose that they are trans before having sex, even if their surgery is perfect. It matters to people.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 03:49 AM
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Why is it so hard for so many men to be honest? Seriously, this is a low fucking bar.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 03:39 AM
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shrug we DGAF whether you believe us or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 01:06 AM
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Thats true, to some extent, of both genders, including in relationships that have nothing to do with sex- but it’s not absolute. Looks can only go so far.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 11:15 PM
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It’s enough for many horny young women to try hookups once or twice. Then many or most realize that it just doesn’t do anything for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 11:14 PM
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He had a good face. And yes, Asperger’s is part of one’s personality. It was far from his only, or even his main, problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 11:12 PM
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My first reaction when I saw his picture, before I listened to him or knew what he’d done, was that he was good-looking. Nice eyes, nice cheekbones. That changed to revulsion within seconds of actually listening to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 11:11 PM
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Rodgers was clearly, irredeemably, obviously toxic within 30 seconds of watching his video. He might have been less obvious about it when he wasn’t planning to go on a mass murder spree, but it takes a bit of interaction to arrange having sex with someone, and it was not surprising to any woman who watched that video that he was an incel after watching it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 11:10 PM
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It’s about how attractive you find the person. It’s not just physical. A lot of women do not get off from casual hookups. They have to get to know a guy first, and have to be able to trust him enough to relax. Regardless of how physically attractive a guy is, if he doesn’t feel trustworthy, he’s not sexy. That’s part of why women consume porn in written form rather than just pictures: you can give a sense of the character’s internal dialog and personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 11:36 AM
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Very few people, men or women, say that looks don’t matter at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 11:34 AM
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Sooo you’re a liar and a cheater, but you still think you have a good personality?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 11:33 AM
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Elliott Rodger was a virgin because his personality was revolting, not because he had a bad face.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 11:32 AM
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Same reason men are more depressed: less community, more responsibility, more difficulty fulfilling that responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 09:07 AM
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shrug. IDGAF whether you believe me or not. Women are free agents, and we can act on our own experience regardless of whether men care.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 08:02 PM
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Preferring to talk to men isn’t what makes one a sexist. If you just like sports and beer and explosions, your friends will mostly be other men. That’s fine. What would be sexist would be to say that other interests, hobbies, etc are less valid human endeavors and interests, because they appeal more to women. It’s FINE to not like rom-com movies. It’s Not fine to say that rom coms are less valid as ‘art’ than action movies.
/r/ExRedPill29/10/22 05:53 PM
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Personal experience and those of my friends and family. My niece is a coltish twelve years old, and she has already had men creeping on her. It has a lot to do with why women get bitchier with age.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 03:58 PM
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Only a bit, unfortunately.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 09:24 AM
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Who wants to be having sex with someone who doesn’t know if they want to be in a relationship with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 09:15 AM
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If we didn’t dismiss 99.999%of the guys who approach, we’d be doing noting all day but polite let-downs.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 03:46 AM
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Even the ones who aren’t potential rapists, though, a solid majority take basic courtesy from a woman between 14 (being generous, here) and 50 as a come-on; and a significant minority take it as an invitation for harassment or worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 03:44 AM
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I’ve never met a woman IRL, nor read one writing under her own name- including women who are very open about their sexuality, and including actual porn stars- who want to be ‘fucked like a porn star.’
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 02:33 AM
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Quite a fucking lot. There’s nothing that can ruin a woman’s life like an unplanned pregnancy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 03:17 PM
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I don’t know what number I am, or my husband is… I do know he’s pretty goddamn special. I moved to a bigger city in part because, of the few hundred in the dating pool where I used to live, none were right. Looks played a part in it, but there were handsome guys where I used to live, too. I was looking for social and political compatibility, similar goals, mutual attraction, and a decent brain.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 02:46 PM
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Pretty much this. Men also want tradcon wives at the same time they cry about ‘divorce rape’ and think that every liquid cent they earn is ‘their money,’ claiming that they think that tradcon women contribute nothing of value to a marriage but sex, while still refusing to pay for tradcon services (including sex and procreation) outside of marriage because it’s ‘not clean,’ or ‘high-n women are unattractive.’ Either thing is fine- a tradcon marriage, or paying for services on the free market- or …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 02:40 PM
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The self-improvement parts of terp dogma are not original or unique, but also not harmful. The manipulation, lying, and encouragement to see women as fundamentally different from men are harmful and destructive.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 06:18 AM
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Fair point.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 04:41 AM
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And yet women are getting those jobs…?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 04:24 AM
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I support affirmative action for men in colleges and universities. I think history shows that men are not less intelligent or less capable of study than women; something about current culture is encouraging men to downplay or devalue education. Until that is corrected, we need to be giving more men who want educations the opportunity to get them, with the assumption that their individual values will overcome the cultural dismissal of education, once they get into a college setting. It will also …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 10:43 AM
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6’, in my husband’s case. He’s perfect (I’m 5’4”). Taller than that, and things just get physically awkward. If I were model-height, then yeah: taller would be better.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 05:22 PM
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Height up to a certain threshold, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 08:33 AM
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Second on the rolled up sleeves, but I’m the opposite when it comes to body hair. I hate it on anyone, myself included. I do like bushy eyebrows, but since that goes with body hair, I have to do without ;p
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 08:32 AM
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Forearms & legs for me, but women like different parts just like men do (ie, some men like the waif look, some men like T&A, some like feet, etc).
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 08:30 AM
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Rolling up the sleeves of a long-sleeved button-up shirt. Way hotter than a t-shirt, for some reason. Uniforms and suits. Men running in a group, like warmups before team sports, is mesmerizing for some reason. If you then meet them later and there’s good camaraderie, with no one belittling anyone else or beating their chest too much, that increases their mutual hotness exponentially.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 08:25 AM
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Annnd now you’re pretending that the rest of the conversation didn’t actually happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 08:51 AM
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Tinder is biggest with women > tinder is biggest with women by numbers, not proportions > tinder is biggest with women by participant numbers, not paying numbers > tinder is biggest with western women by participant numbers, not paying umbers (not proven).
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 06:52 AM
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Ad hominem fallacy
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 06:04 AM
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Goalposts = moved
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 05:55 AM
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Tinder has neither the most users overall, nor the most paid users. And also does not have the highest proportions of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 04:58 AM
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One was also about which sites had the most paid subscriber, by the income of the apps. Also: https://www.datingadvice.com/online-dating/dating-sites-with-the-most-users
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 06:00 PM
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Uh, no. It starts before we’re even through puberty. If dudes interpret a 12 year old being polite as a come-on, that’s not on 12 year olds as a whole.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 04:16 PM
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No, don’t be disingenuous. We’re generally uninterested or distantly polite to other women because other women are rarely a threat to us..
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 04:12 PM
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I am WAY bitchier now than I used to be, after having men take even shreds of common courtesy as come-ons.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 04:00 PM
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https://www.businessinsider.com/dating-apps-that-have-highest-percentage-of-women-2016-6 https://www.statista.com/chart/24404/most-popular-dating-apps-us/ https://mashable.com/roundup/best-popular-dating-apps-and-sites
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 02:58 PM
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If he says, ‘let’s see how things go,’ when he’s 90% sure they won’t, he’s a pig.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 02:55 PM
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conflating Damn you, autocorrect
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 04:38 PM
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Citation for the claim that Tinder is the most favored app among women. Citation for the claim that people with no profile are more popular than people with a profile. Citation for the claim that ‘lets smash’ is more successful with most women than a longer conversation. Citation for the claim that ‘smashing’ on tinder leads to the kinds of relationships that the article in question was talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 04:36 PM
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If you’re upfront about what you want, that’s fine. If you lie or lead people on with body language, or make long-term plans with them that you have no intention of fulfilling (As happened to my mom, for example, after she and my dad divorced), you’re a pig.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 09:27 AM
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I’m kind of puzzled by this, because I personally haven’t been in online dating for years (met my husband through OKC), but is see young women talking about how much they HATE online dating. Like, absolutely fucking loathe it. It seems like more and more men are getting online, and more and more women are getting off. It may be that online dating has jumped the shark.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 09:25 AM
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It’s the others who are disappearing from the dating market, though, assuming monogamy. They’re just pulling some men with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 09:21 AM
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Less than 1% to 5% of pregnancies. With 2.3kids/marriage, that’s less than 2.3% of marriages (high income) to 11.5% of marriages (low income). Also, some of these are known extra-pair paternity- ie, an adoptive father and/ or a sperm donor due to infertility.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 09:20 AM
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How is that even remotely relevant to sexual kinks?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 03:05 PM
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Shifted burden of proof fallacy
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 03:03 PM
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The data do not support your claim. The OKC data showed that women messaged average men in a normal distribution, whereas men predominantly messaged only the most attractive women. What terps like to point out is that women only judged the most attractive men as ‘normal,’ but this was during a time when OKC informed people when someone rated them as ‘most attractive,’ so women who wanted to browse privately would deliberately under-rate men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 03:02 PM
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The study isn’t about ‘having sex.’ It’s about having children.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 08:29 AM
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The data do not support that claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 03:12 AM
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Dude. Don’t just make shit up. Pull papers, if you have them. I do have access to the article, but the part of it that I wanted you to see was just in the abstract anyway, quote: “Here, I show that among the Himba 17 per cent of all recorded marital births are attributed by women to EPP, and EPP is associated with significant increases in women's reproductive success. In contrast, there are no cases of EPP among children born into ‘love match’ marriages.”. Bolding mine. Cultures where women choo…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 03:11 AM
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I strongly doubt those are the numbers.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 03:03 AM
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And men are, to the exact same degree, sharing them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 07:54 PM
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snort that’s not truth-telling, dude. That’s asserting your personal incredulity as fact. Genetic studies do not agree with you. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0960982219313053 https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/10.1098/rsbl.2011.0478 Edited to fox a broken link
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 07:52 PM
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snort And she does, why? If he’s as philandering as you say, it’s only a matter of time until he knocks someone up by accident, and she’s going to be on the hook for his child support out of their marital finances. Unless he’s shooting blanks, that is, which might explain a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 06:43 PM
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Sooo 10% of women are sharing men. The rest aren’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 06:37 PM
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Women very obviously do.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 06:34 PM
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They’ve done studies. Lots of them. It’s less than 1 to 5% in western nations when the father does not suspect fraud, 20-40% when he does.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 06:33 PM
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Matt’s wife either has a low IQ, is also banging other men on the side, or is a pathetic, clueless, trusting fool who will take everything they mutually own in a for-cause divorce settlement when she figures out his habits.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 06:29 PM
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This is the answer, but it’s also true that most women don’t have a lot of casual sex or FWBs, so men are also sharing those women who do.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 06:27 PM
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Yeah, it literally does.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 02:24 PM
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🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 09:06 AM
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Yes, actually we do. Read through the full thread a bit, including the updates in the OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 09:06 AM
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That’s not what the opening post was about, though. The OP was about deliberate deception- or, in the edited version, lying by omission. Not changing your mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 09:05 AM
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Of course you’re entitled to change your mind, you’re not entitled to LIE.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 03:12 AM
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No, it is not. Dudes regularly claim that women whom they’ve never actually spoken to about their attraction, or who have denied an attraction, should ‘just know’ that he’s only actually interested in her for sex and that ‘no men would ever be friends with any woman for any reason other than wanting sex with her.’
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 09:55 PM
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“Feminist”? What makes you think it takes a feminist to be disgusted when men leave their wives after a cancer diagnosis? We’ve got data -multiple studies- showing that’s what actually happens. That’s not in question, here. The only thing that’s in question is whether cancer docs offer pamphlets or counseling to female patients , to prepare them for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 09:53 PM
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That’s not what most people mean by friend-zoning, as I have seen on this and other fora, but even that is basically a dude saying that he sees no value in women’s friendships.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 08:25 PM
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All kinds of people say all kinds of shit. This was not a shit-talking kind of conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 08:24 PM
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As opposed to men pretending to be friends, when they’re actually fuckzoning a woman? At least women’s friendship is real.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 12:30 PM
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Uh, wanting informed consent is not trying to ‘trap’ anyone. JFC. The blind entitlement of this. The hubris. ‘When patients want to know what procedure you’ll be doing, it’s a trap.’ ‘When customers want to know how much the car will cost, or what features it has, before they sign the papers, it’s a trap.’ ‘When adopters want to meet a dog before adopting it, it’s a trap.’ Jesus fucking Christ, OP. Listen to yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 12:27 PM
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Nope. Most of them don’t pay out for ‘expected’ deaths- ie, deaths by illness after a certain age, for example. If the person in question dies young, then yeah. And still. Women are as likely to have life insurance policies as men… and some men wont even stay with their wives for that. They’re so eager to dump her that they’ll take a financial hit to do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 12:13 PM
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He’s a real sweetheart. And good in bed :)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 12:02 PM
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Meaning that their cancers are more advanced when found, and require more extreme treatment.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 11:59 AM
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That might be true. Women attempt suicide more, but men succeed more (in the west, now). Farming areas with extremely potent pesticides commonly available, and few guns, see more equal distributions or even more female suicide successes. Coal gas suicides by housewives used to be common, as well) rbecause they’re more likely to use guns, ropes, or jump from high buildings.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 11:58 AM
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Someone else pointed out that it’s not necessarily generalizable between the US, with little to no health care assistance, and the civilized world, with national health care programs. It’s not uncommon for cancer patients to die here because they can’t afford treatment.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 11:52 AM
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I don’t actually know. I’m repeating something an oncology nurse said when we were discussing that 2009 study. It was a one-sentence comment, and mightn’t have been applicable to all practices. I shouldn’t have generalized to all practices based on that, so ‘at at least one oncology practice, it’s a well-enough known phenomenon that they warn female patients when they get new diagnoses that their husbands may ask for divorce.’
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 11:43 AM
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That’s a fair point. I have no idea how it is in other countries, and generalizing a behavior on one culture to ‘all men and women, everywhere’ is one of the worst fallacies of evopsych studies in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 11:21 AM
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Again: no. Most injuries are not fatal. And no. Care work is no easier nor ‘more natural’ for women than men. I know some terrible female nurses and some kickass male ones. They definitely do have different ‘styles,’ mostly in that the male nurses will take no shit and the horrible male patients who harass and/or are violent with female nurses, won’t do so with male nurses (there’s a subset of male patients who are actually waaaay nicer with female nurses or staff- accept advice and direction be…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 11:19 AM
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🤦🏻‍♀️dude. It’s the person who dies, or otherwise leaves, that ‘doesn’t have to deal with the death of the other.’ And yeah, it takes a fucking LOT. Many people who lose loved ones go through serious depressions, not to mention the serious physical labor of taking care of their bodies when they can’t do it themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 02:33 PM
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All of the men here going ‘nuh-uh!’ Are you willing to pledge, even in a non-binding Internet forum, that you will not leave your spouses or LTRs if/when they are diagnosed with serious illness? I pledge that I will not leave my husband if he develops a serious illness, including one that prevents him from working. How many of you can do the same?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 01:21 PM
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Nope. Women care for their spouses during terminal illnesses, men leave their wives before they even know if they will live or die. Edit: some women, some men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 01:17 PM
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Because men smoke more, drink more, and take more risks.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 12:56 PM
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Interesting. It could also have to do with the dynamics of what normal behaviors MS precludes, vs. diagnoses like stroke and cancer.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 12:55 PM
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I don’t know what studies OP is referencing, but it’s pretty well-known in the medical field. It’s so common that women receiving cancer and other bad diagnoses are often offered counseling for it. https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/0022146515596354 https://www.reuters.com/article/us-partners-health/men-more-likely-than-women-to-leave-partner-with-cancer-idUSTRE5AB0C520091112 See also, Newt Gingerich and a variety of other male politicians. https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/11/091…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 12:49 PM
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My husband had an old cat when I met him, and a year or two into our relationship the cat developed diabetes. He tested its blood sugar and gave it insulin injections for the rest of its life, and has since insisted on feeding the cats an ultra-low-carb, delivered-by-mail, cat food based on the proportions of nutrients in domestic mice (plus occasional treats). I was coming to terp and MRA fora to learn what red flags to watch out for, but he never showed any, and this was one of many ‘green’ fl…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 12:44 PM
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If she was married to him long enough, she’d get SS regardless. Insurance doesn’t pay out for lingering, known deaths by illness unless the person is under a certain age.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 12:31 PM
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Money can’t pay for diddly squat if no one is working.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 12:28 PM
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…that’s what we’re talking about, dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 12:28 PM
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Men live five years less and are more likely to be injured because of testosterone poisoning (ie, immortality syndrome: a combination of testosterone driving them to take risks, and a cultural mindset in which they are rarely held accountable (‘boys being boys,’ jail time for a rapist is “too harsh a penalty for five minutes of tail.”). Men drive faster, drink more, smoke more, and do more generally stupid shit. Unfortunately for them, nature, unlike society, doesn’t GAF about their testicles.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 12:27 PM
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Because caring for people is ‘women’s work.’
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 12:20 PM
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Neither myself nor any of my close friends did. We were all science nerds, and kind of like you said, we all had better things to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 01:44 PM
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Dude. Go re-read the thread if you can’t figure that out.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 01:00 PM
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Of course you do🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 07:42 AM
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Zero effort would be not responding. Or, in your case, not reading.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 04:30 AM
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1)it’s 10 years. Most women don’t even hook up as much as terps think they do (ie, as much as a man would if women were as horny as men). 2)so is being a father. 3)no, divorce doesn’t’come out of a man’s pocket.’ Women made up more than half of the IS workforce before the pandemic, and a SAHM is generally a SAHM because she and her husband agreed to that. If you want a tradcon wife with no career, and you want to philander outside your home, you’re going to pay for it. ‘Supervised visits’ only h…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 04:29 AM
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Gaslighting = convincing someone they are crazy for normal behavior. 1)TRP is not normal 2)where did I try to convince you that you were crazy?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 04:22 AM
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Yes, 20-25 % body fat is healthy and normal for women. BMI is just a height-weight table. It works well for the average person, less well for anyone in athletics or who exercises more than the average American.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 04:21 AM
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Mmmm-hmmm. Sure, sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 04:19 AM
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Then go your own fucking way and leave women alone. 🤷🏻‍♀️ Easy-peasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 04:19 AM
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Tell me you don’t ever talk to most women, without telling me that you don’t talk to most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 04:18 AM
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Most of this, except the ‘feel better about yourself’ stuff, is manipulative. TRP forum was even more blatant. https://www.reddit.com/r/marriedredpill/comments/acvzgx/steels_guide_to_married_red_pill/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 04:15 AM
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TeRP
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 03:58 AM
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Terp protocols are beyond Machiavellian. And yes, all humans are susceptible to operant conditioning. Most animals are.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 02:16 PM
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snort you mean the speed dating study in which men said ‘yes’ to pretty much everyone, in the hope of gettting laid? and women only saying ‘yes’ to 20%? Yeah, that doesn’t say what you seem to think it says.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 02:13 PM
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Call it whatever you want, terp protocols are still psychological abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 01:32 PM
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Yes. Yes, they do. And there’s a reason so many young women would rather be alone than be with a terp.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 01:30 PM
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Citation for the last claim?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 01:29 PM
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Dude. 🤦🏻‍♀️ I’m talking about a BMI of 15, not 15% body fat. Pay attention. In fact, *you even said BMI in your last post. Do you think they mean the same thing? Also, yes: 15% body fat is not healthy for women. Well before that point, most women stop menstruating, and as previously noted, runway models were dropping dead from malnutrition. So, starved to the point of infertility and death? Not healthy, dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 01:19 PM
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1)the 10 years between 18 and 28 are not ‘her life,’ even assuming that you were correct on her behavior. 2)If he’s the one who donated the semen that made the kids, they’re his kids. 3)you’re simply incorrect in the statistics about custody post divorce. 70% of the time, custody is agreed on by both parties and men don’t want more than they get. Men often don’t even use the visitation that they do get. When men do ask for more visitation, courts are extremely sympathetic, especially if the dude…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 01:14 PM
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This will lead to more “sexlessness” in young men as more and more learn the red flags of terp ideology and behavior, and most women would rather be alone than be with a terp.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 01:02 PM
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That’s not true. Hostility towards pregnant women is their major cause of mortality now, but it used to be simple death in or around labor.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 12:59 PM
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So you’re psychologically manipulating your wife with operant conditioning, and pretending that susceptibility to same is a female trait? She’s going to really hate you when she figures it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 12:56 PM
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Part of the problem is that terp ideology makes men less attractive to women long-term.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 12:47 PM
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Models literally dropped dead at those levels.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 10:01 PM
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Also, Chad Thundercock is a dildo.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 10:00 PM
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There is every reason for that to be the case. Five men for every woman means each woman has five men to choose from.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 09:59 PM
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Referring to women as ‘females’ and assuming that they only care about the top 20% of men, and only for looks, is significantly below average.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 08:12 PM
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Recognizing that perfect people don’t exist is “settling” ? Wow, that’s a pretty broad definition. I guess the human has never existed that didn’t ‘settle.’
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 08:06 PM
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That’s the point. When the distribution is that unequal, behavior changes.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 08:01 PM
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Literally no women ‘love’ Andrew Tate, unless by ‘love’ you mean ‘accept payment in exchange for modeling, acting, and/or sexual favors.’ The man is not honest.
/r/ExRedPill15/10/22 01:35 PM
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Again: photoshopped AF on the lower tiers. Or, in at least one case, stage makeup from ‘the Goonies.’
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 01:10 PM
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I don’t know how wide the spread is, but I often am completely mystified by the men my friends and co-workers think are unbelievably hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 01:09 PM
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The OKC data do not support this claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 01:07 PM
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You think that a woman devoting her life to a man, and bearing his children, is her ‘settling’ and that he’s only getting the ‘leftovers.’ You value meaningless sex over a life together.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 01:07 PM
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Not to mention that men also want the top 20% of women, based on whom they actually message on dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 11:55 AM
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1)Pretty sure some of those guys on the lower tiers were photoshopped 2)the distribution is not even- it’s not 10% for each tier 3)there were pics in some of the lower tiers that looked good to me, and in the upper tiers who didn’t: what men find attractive in other men is not what women find attractive in men, and there is more disagreement amongst women than men about what they find ‘attractive.’
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 10:51 AM
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That dead bedroom sub isn’t all men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 10:33 AM
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That’s true if and only if you consider it ‘settling’ to get someone who is not 100%, absolutely perfect in every way. Most of us end up compromising on our wish list at some point, because the person who fits the entire list just doesn’t exist. That doesn’t mean that we’re not happy with the one we actually get.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 10:32 AM
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The solution to that is not for women to allow men to masturbate on their bodies twice a day? Everyday.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 10:27 AM
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Because men vastly outnumber women on OKC, but not IRL. Just for a start.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 10:25 AM
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Political polls work really hard to get statistically representative samples.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 10:23 AM
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Women do consider those other guys that they’re dating ‘sexually desirable.’ Sexual desire isn’t based on looks alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 10:22 AM
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You mean ‘include,’ not ‘preclude’ On the merits of your argument, that’s basically just a version of, ‘have sex with us or we’ll get violent.’ The problem is that a lot of those bottom-tier men are already violent and unstable. Look at the ‘incel hero,’ Elliott Rodger, for example. That guy had a fantastic face. It was my first thought when I saw his picture, before I knew what he’d done. Listening to him talk, though, he became UN attractive very quickly. IF he had managed to get a girlfriend …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 10:11 AM
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Ueahhhhhhh no. Speaking as a biologist. This is one of the stupidest things I’ve read in a while.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 10:07 AM
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Yet another example of terp men not caring about their families and children.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 10:06 AM
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People make that claim on here all the ducking time. …8including you, right after you denied it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 10:03 AM
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Seriously, are you suggesting that it would somehow be morally better for women to not pick the guys they’re most attracted to, even if he’s available? What, they’re supposed to date based on pity?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 10:02 AM
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There are two reasons for that OK Cupid study, though. First, there are way more men than women on dating apps. It’s not ‘80 women attracted to 20 men,’ it’s ‘80 women attracted to 80 men, all of whom happen to be in the top 20% of looks, because there are so many more men than women on dating apps.’ Even that is stretching the truth, though, because the same study actually looked at whom people were messaging, as opposed to just judging on physical attractiveness, the women were messaging men o…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 10:00 AM
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That’s a fair point. Most of the dressing up women do is for each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 09:49 AM
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It doesn’t ‘look healthy’ to anyone who knows WTF they’re looking at. Morbidity and mortality ramp up sharply at underweights: it’s far worse to be 5 under than 5 over. Also, the narcissism it takes, or just straight up mental illness in the case of people with anorexia nervosa, if your job doesn’t depend on it, to be literally killing yourself for the sake of a fad in looks is just repellent.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 09:47 AM
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Did you not read what I just said? It is not healthy to be that thin. The healthiest BMI is, iirc, about 24. Models are in the mid teens. https://www.newsweek.com/2016/02/19/high-fashion-low-bmi-424763.html
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 10:12 PM
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A lot of women would prefer zero attention. There is nothing more reassuring than a dude who clearly couldn’t care less about you. It’s why we like strict gay men so much. It’s great to have friends/acquaintances who dgaf about you as a sexual being, only as another person who might as well have no genitals at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 10:08 PM
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They want to sleep with us with no strings attached, and then judge us for it, basically, and over on r/purplepilldebate there’s nothing but terp men whining about ‘how hard it is to date as a man.’
/r/ExRedPill14/10/22 05:01 PM
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So your statement that ‘wanting to be appreciated as more than a sex object’ is a ‘first world problem’ meant… what, exactly? Just that you don’t believe that it’s actually a problem? And yet women (and men) are telling you here that it is. And we have men saying that, yes, they really dgaf about a woman’s personality, her income, her sense of humor, etc- nothing except her age and appearance. And they say that’s better for women. That they wish they could be treated that way, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 04:54 PM
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So your statement that ‘wanting to be appreciated as more than a sex object’ is a ‘first world problem’ meant… what, exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 04:50 PM
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Ah. Chubby or fat, going down to model-slim? Like a model who eats no solid food for the week before a photo shoot, and is told that she’s still ‘too fat’ when she arrives on set? Like the models that used to semi-regularly drop dead at fashion shows from malnutrition, leading to the institution of minimum standards… which led modeling agencies to start using child models, because it was physiologically unsafe for adult women to try to force themselves into that kind of shape? That kind of chubb…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 04:49 PM
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Again: look at the data. Major abdominal surgery is 1)NOT easy, and 2)statistically, the only thing that actually works. Also, just so you know, everything associated with humans is getting fatter. Infants born to normal weight mothers are fatter. Primates in zoos are fatter. The fattest of the zoo monkeys? The chimpanzees, some of our closest relatives. Are zoo chimpanzees today, fed on monkey chow, more glutinous or lazier than zoo chimpanzees from 50 years ago, fed the same thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 11:40 AM
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It’s not a first world problem, though. If anything, it’s even worse for women in impoverished areas. One of the reasons that the rate of maternal mortality is so high in Afghanistan (to take an extreme example) is that young women are often stunted from malnourishment. The boys get the lion’s share of food, and girls that mature to the size of 10- or 12-year olds don’t have bodies that can safely deliver a 7 lb human infant. And that’s because women are seen as only good for sex by the men that…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 11:33 AM
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You are not correct. Statistically, the most effective and successful weight loss program is major abdominal surgery with a ridiculously high morbidity and mortality rate.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 07:21 AM
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1)I suggest you look at the actual data on weight loss, at the degree of weight loss required to be a successful model, and the morbidity/mortality rate for anorexia nervosa. 2)if you care about a woman who has casual sex, you’re going to have to avoid casual sex yourself, and you’re going to have to be ok with her not having casual sex with you. 3)Anyone looking at anyone can guess their age within a decade, unless they are massively wealthy (cosmetic surgery is not cheap). Makeup is required f…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 07:20 AM
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shudder Women as the ‘female extensions’ of men Women are definitely more independent here, but part of the reason that TRP exists is that we’re not sleeping with any man we meet, and that annoys them.
/r/ExRedPill14/10/22 06:43 AM
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And ‘not a deadweight.’
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 10:26 PM
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Are you seriously going to say an individual has no choice over their life to leave their family? Uh, what? You know what, never mind. You clearly haven’t been arguing in good faith from the beginning. It’s not worth my time to keep on explaining the obvious. Have a good life, terp.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 10:58 AM
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🙄 ‘Casual sex is unfair to men,’ Say then men constantly demanding casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 10:47 AM
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we also have the ability to choose how we socialize and what we care about. Only to a limited extent. We don’t choose our family, we only choose our co-workers in the broadest sense, and we don’t choose whom we ride the bus with or drive on the road with. Men are human, but you throw away the "men don't care" statement by saying "they don't have to care". Either they care because they're a social species or they don't care because they don't have to. You’re being specious again, but I’ll explain…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 08:38 AM
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See also, Donald Trump. This type of shit appeals to a certain demographic.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 03:09 PM
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Soooo you think women lie about body count, but not about virginity…?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 02:54 PM
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Again, it seems like you get validation from the outside world. You care about society's view… Stop with the gaslighting. Humans are a social species. We ALL, with the exception of some but not all sociopaths, care about how other people perceive us not only because of our evolutionary history, but for the simple fact that how they perceive us affects how they treat us, and that can ease or hinder our path. …which makes sense why do many women post on social media for likes… Again. You’re on her…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 02:29 PM
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LOL If his affairs aren’t in order- like if his parents didn’t get invited to a planned brunch- I’m the one apologizing and being told, with disappointed tones of voice, ‘it’s ok, we had other plans anyway.’ Don’t get me wrong, his parents are great- but I’m still the one who ‘should’ have handled invitations. If we miss a mutual date, that’s on me. If the house isn’t clean, that’s on me. He doesn’t GAF about a lot of this, like many men, because he doesn’t have to: so it’s on me to take care of…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 07:36 AM
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We are a social species.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 07:25 AM
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Or, in my case, chose not to enter in to. I’m talking about the social expectations that I act as my husband’s servant. Yes, we are more free than we have ever been in the US (there are other countries that are better, but historically we have it pretty good), but we are still not equal. We can still complain about potholes on our own roads even though, historically and geographically, some places have no roads. I’ve never seen data on the second half, but if you hang out on r slash breaking mom…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 03:29 AM
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Superheroes? No. I choose not to do most of these things, and I’m socially judged for not keeping my husband’s life in better order. I would rather that, than resent him for the extra work, though. A huge percentage of the divorces initiated by women are because they woman realizes she can add an hour or two of free time every day if she gets a divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 03:01 PM
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Sure, if you do it with some poor woman overseas in an impoverished country. Domestically, it’s quite goddamn expensive: https://www.samelovesurrogacy.com/is-financing-available-for-surrogacy-cost-in-oregon/ quote: “Estimated surrogacy costs can range from $130,000 – $180,000, depending on many variables and the overall expenses associated with the pregnancy. “ If a wife ‘wasn’t good’ at being a secretary, the man could always manage his own life. Yet so few of them actually do.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 02:48 PM
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What journal do they publish in?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 11:01 AM
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🙄 Read them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 10:14 AM
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Try reading the actual studies. They’re medical, not sociological.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 08:56 AM
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$100-$200K per child surrogacy; what, $50 per sex act? I have no idea what the going rate is for prostitutes in Vegas (note that I’m only following the terp logic of marriage as being a financial cost for the man, here); wages for cleaning, cooking, secretarial work, at $25-100K/year. Each. Yes, for most marriages, she’d be financially better off if she was paid for all of her work.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 03:22 AM
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I never denied that both genders commit domestic violence. However, there is a TON of primary source data, as demonstrated by the peer-reviewed, published, scientific studies that I linked, that het men cause vastly more physical harm to female partners than the other way around.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 03:18 AM
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Technically that was just a claim, not an anecdote. However, here is some data to back it, as is your right to request since I am the claimant: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4431640/ Quote: “From 2006–2009, there were 112,664 visits made to United States EDs with an e-code for battering by a part-ner or spouse. Most patients were female (93 %) with a mean age of 35 years. “ More primary research in the same vein: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/7683301_Domestic_Violence_A…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 06:32 PM
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I believe the initial claim was ‘sending Americans to die.’ And sure: everyone has disagreements about how taxes would be better spent.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 06:28 PM
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On that note, I’m going to get off of the internet for a while and hang with my lovely family:)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 03:32 PM
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It’s not male fetuses being aborted. Yes, girls (who might not even actually have been named at birth…!) who are raised to be submissive, and see themselves as lesser, will obey their family. And if a man is marrying a woman of equal status, he can vet her just fine, and she him- if they’re allowed to get to know each other, first. That’s all it takes. There will be many false starts, because it takes more than just compatible genitalia for a couple to work out well. They need to have similar go…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 03:30 PM
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Yet another ‘terps aren’t like that’ thread, in which terp men demonstrate that they do not actually value their wives or families, only sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 03:16 PM
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It can be. It can also be one person basically masturbating with rhe body of another.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 02:42 PM
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Um. Thanks. I’m so cynical from arguing on here that my first reaction is to suspect insincerity, but that’s a bad road so I will take the complement on face value. :) Edited for grammar
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 02:37 PM
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snort Because the kid would spend it all on candy. And it doesn’t matter if the payer can “afford” a stranger. Just saying so is basically admitting that the kids are a trophy, a possession to you, and not their own people whose interests should be placed above those of the adults. It is not in the best interests of the children to suddenly start having a total stranger, who is paid to do so, look after them 22 hours of the day.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 02:25 PM
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If it’s the families arranging the marriages, it’s not the women pretending that they are angels. There is a LOT more to overcome for a couple who haven’t had the chance to vet each other, as compared to a couple who has. Maybe she loves dogs, can’t imagine living without them, and he hates dogs, or vice versa. Maybe she wants a doctorate in physics, and he wants a SAHM. In a patriarchal country, none of that matters to the man because he figures that the woman is supposed to cave in and just do…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 02:25 PM
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Stating the URL does not justify claiming the text therein as your own, and I’m describing the basic elements of English grammar. My grammar isn’t perfect, either, but this is a really important point. You’d be kicked out of some university classes for that. And no, ‘failure to find guilty’ is not the same as ‘the report was false.’ JFC, this should be obvious on its face. You’re right that many countries are worse than India. South Africa is the worst, AFAIK. That does not justify or forgive In…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 02:21 PM
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Yeah, no. I can hardly believe you were ever a child to make that statement, much less have ever cared for one.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 02:16 PM
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Want to look at the respective percentages of women vs. men who are murdered by their spouses or partners? The respective number of women vs men who are put into the hospital by their partners?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 11:50 AM
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Anecdote != data
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 11:48 AM
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It’s almost as though contract marriages are a bad idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 11:48 AM
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1)when you quote a story, not indicating that you are doing so with quotation marks (“ “) is plagiarism. 2)I do not believe that 75% of reports are false. This is a country in which women are often divorced and occasionally murdered for having been raped. It is far, far more likely that the actual number of reported rapes is an undercount.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 11:44 AM
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Yeahhhhhj…https://thewire.in/women/crimes-against-women-rape-cases-india-2021-ncrb-data Quote: “As per the NCRB’s ‘Crime in India 2021’ report, there was a 19.34% increase in rape cases last year when compared to 2020. A total of 4,28,278 crimes against women were registered in the country. The report also shows that there was a 13.2% increase in overall crimes against women in 2021 compared to the year before. “ https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/india-sees-88-rape-cases-a-day-but-convic…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 10:57 AM
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By ‘fraud by the bride’s family,’ do you mean something along the lines of ‘false advertising’ WRT a marriage contract? If so, it’s the bride’s family that is buying a groom, not the other way around.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 10:56 AM
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Want to start an anecdote war about Indian women killed for ransom by their husband’s family?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 09:13 AM
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Yeahhh from a country where the husband’s families have a habit of burning women to death, killing them with acid, etc when the wife’s families don’t succumb to their (illegal) demands for more dowries, I do not feel sorry for the men. Not to mention the ridiculous rates of rape and sexual abuse. There’s a reason even women are willing to disproportionately abort female fetuses in India, and it’s not necessarily that ‘women hate women.’
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 09:12 AM
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What’s funny is that the men complaining the most about women getting custody and alimony also tend to be the ones most likely to get a mail-order-bride who is even more dependent on him, and therefore even more likely to get full custody and alimony in the event of a divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 09:09 AM
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A lot of those “self-made” people are still the scions of wealthy families.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 09:03 AM
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And 1)most of those women only divorced when their husbands had high-profile, common-knowledge affairs and/or acted like jackasses in public. 2)Most of them proceeded to donate so much to charity that they knocked themselves out of the top-tiers of wealth; and 3)those high-flying men would not have been able to achieve what they did if they hadn’t had wives taking care of their homes. There’s a reason that lesbians married to women tend to succeed better than het women married to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 09:01 AM
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It dependes, from what I’ve read, on whether the provisions are reasonable or not. For example, a prenup in which the heir of a fortune marries a waitress and specifies that she gets nothing, including child custody, in the event of a divorce- is not going to be enforced. It’s basically saying that she couldn’t possibly be contributing anything of value, despit the fact that he’s presumably marrying her by choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 08:52 AM
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Very few modern women get alimony.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 08:41 AM
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Yeah, no. They get 50% of the marital wealth.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 08:40 AM
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Not at the same rates. When they do, it’s the man initiating the divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 08:39 AM
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Women only commit domestic violence at parity if you count yelling at your spouse equally to beating the shit out of them or choking them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 08:38 AM
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Most women would leave the marriage better off if they had been paid the going market value for surrogacy, cooking, cleaning, secretarial work, etc rather than just being a housewife.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 08:36 AM
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Primary earner gets custody, so she can hire a stranger to actually care for her kids, because she doesn’t have the time to take actual care of them…? In what world does that make sense?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 07:13 AM
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Nah, he just needs to have a job, or at least a hobby other than gaming, and not make her life harder than it would be if she was single. Women do not want or need men who add more of a burden than an extra child would.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 07:10 AM
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A fuckboi.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 03:28 AM
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We’re not forcing any Americans to go die for Ukraine. We’re helping Ukranians drive out an imperialist invader.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 03:18 AM
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Nope. There’s room for many people living many different types of lives, as long as everyone agrees on the basics: you don’t get to freeload, you don’t get to perform violence except for immediate physical self-defense, you don’t get to force your religion on others, that type of thing. Pretty basic Rule-of-Law, Bill of Rights type stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 03:17 AM
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Very true.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 03:14 AM
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I hang out in RP fora because I joined them up hen I was dating, specifically for the reason you describe: to get a sense of what to avoid. I’m happily married to a really good man now. Now I try to provide a counter-narrative to the specious RP arguments that can suck in young men.
/r/ExRedPill08/10/22 05:36 AM
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The worst of all systems, except for all of the others.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 05:29 AM
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My husband and I paid about $60K in taxes last year. Most of it was capital gains from the sale of my house, with each of us contributing about equally from our incomes.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 05:28 AM
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No, I want him to pay his share and not freeload on the society that I help to pay for.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 05:26 AM
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You are not correct. The vast majority goes to the military.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 05:13 AM
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Speaking as someone with a STEM degree, no they do not. Engineering maybe. Scientists make diddly squat.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 05:12 AM
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‘There but for the Grace of God go I.’
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 05:05 AM
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I looked that up because I didn’t believe it, and to my shock it is real. It couldn’t possibly actually work, though, because the new cells will be seen as ‘foreign’ and eliminated by the host’s immune system, even if they did manage to integrate into the face. Gods, people are stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 02:40 PM
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snort women have swung to the left because the right has been increasingly radicalized and fascistic. If I had a choice between Biden and Eisenhower, I’d probably choose Eisenhower. Biden vs. Trump? It’s Biden all the way.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 02:26 PM
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No, it’s they guy trying to avoid taxes that’s the freeloader. Not the one who pays. My husband and I paid about $60K in taxes last year, fwiw. Most of it was capital gains, but it still hurts- but we like things like bridges and drivable streets. A dude who made just as much as us, but who wants to drive on the roads and bridges we helped pay for, without contributing? Yes, he’s a fucking freeloader.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 02:24 PM
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Yes. The society won’t work if people act like they’re cats.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 02:19 PM
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…what? We were talking about American taxes.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 02:18 PM
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There’s a difference between needing help and having extra but not wanting to pay your own way anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 07:51 AM
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Everyone benefits from a functional society.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 03:04 AM
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Everyone benefits from A functional society. Freeloaders suck.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 03:04 AM
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Her experience jibes with mine. A woman is going to have problems with her friend group if she’s dating a guy who looks down on them for being gay/atheist/not WASP/whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 01:06 AM
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Exactly. If a dude is so selfish and short-sighted that he only cares about things that directly, personally impact him immediately, he’s not going to be a good partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 01:03 AM
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The last couple of elections the gap has been widening and deepening.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 12:55 AM
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Back when I was dating, I specifically said on my profile that I wasn’t interested in conservatives. I still had con men messaging me, claiming that ‘it didn’t matter, all that matters is that we find each other attractive’. 🙄 Yes, it fucking does matter. There is no way on earth that i was going to date someone who thinks they’re superior to me by dint of having a penis, much less who thinks that my autonomy doesn’t matter, or who would get all nasty and insecure if I made more money than him.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 12:54 AM
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Yeahhhh. Everyone look at that graph.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 09:57 PM
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Even if I’m hypothetically single, which I am not, I’m not having sex with either of them, unless I know and trust one or the other. And neither extremely tall nor extremely short men are terribly interesting to me. Of the few men I’ve dated, they were all within 2SD of average- the ones I considered most attractive were within 1SD of average. There’s a reason average is what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 05:04 PM
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That’s not quite what I meant. I understand exactly what you mean, and exactly what those women felt- I can feel it myself- but I still don’t want to have sex with a dude who’s a full head taller than me, much less taller than that. It’s just not comfortable. Hell, even men react to the sheer presence of very large men. It’s respect, and awareness of the binary, but it’s not necessarily sexy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 04:13 PM
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Shorter men often have really remarkably handsome faces. It just depends on what floats an Individual woman’s boat more.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 02:46 PM
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Giggling uncontrollably is not necessarily sexy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 02:44 PM
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I don’t think it’s sex after marriage, it’s sex after kids. I see a lot of moms talk about how fuckimg exhausted they are all the time. Like, ‘haven’t had a full night’s sleep in two years’ level exhausted. When you’re that tired, spending any amount of free time on sex instead of sleep seems like a waste.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 01:09 PM
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Your data does not support most of your claims, and when the ratio of men to women on dating apps is 90:10, of course only the top 10% of men would be responded to.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 06:09 AM
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It’s to point out that simple math is responsible for the fact that males have a hard time on dating apps, not some nefarious female plot.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 12:33 PM
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Also women are more comfortable being alone, and also men are statistically more likely to cheat, and also ALL of the men, of ALL ages, are pursuing women in the 20-30 decade.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 12:33 PM
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50 shades of Grey sold the best in conservative states. It’s how tradcon women, or women raise din tradcon homes even if they’re no longer tradcons, are raised to understand romance.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/22 09:59 AM
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First one I lost all interest in sex, with anyone, period. Second one I didn’t notice a difference and it didn’t make me more or less attracted to the BF I had at the time (now my husband).
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 07:00 PM
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No. First one was a hormonal IUD; second was nuvaring.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 02:51 PM
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I have only ever started birth control after I was already with a man (why take it if I don’t need it?), and in the first cast it completely shut down my libido (it was a long term implant, so it might have had a higher dose). I had zero desire for sex of any kind for the years that I had it. In the second case, it had zero impact one way or the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 02:27 PM
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Yes! Fuck, yes. Men don’t have to have relationships any more than women do. If you’re happy, you’re happy.
/r/ExRedPill28/09/22 09:43 AM
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I got mine♥️
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 09:02 AM
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Those aren’t women’s standards. (Edit: those actors from the 60’s definitely are. Modern standards are more about what gay men want. Look at the differences between gay and het men, and it’s pretty obvious that women aren’t the picky ones).
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 09:01 AM
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Spend a bit of time on this forum and you’ll see plenty of fuckboi glorification. Terps worship fuckbois and want to be fuckbois as their highest aspiration in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 04:33 PM
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Interesting. Thank you for the sources.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 07:45 AM
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What are the rates in other relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 03:14 AM
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Citation?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/22 07:49 AM
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If you count all types of aggression equally, from yelling to emotional abuse to strangling to death, then yes: the rates of ‘abuse’ are similar. If you look at physical damage, women are far more likely to be injured or killed.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/22 07:48 AM
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Yikes
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 06:03 AM
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I don’t doubt the actual conclusion, given that I’ve seen it reported in multiple studies and never debunked, but that isn’t a well-written study.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 07:39 AM
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Now that would be good. People would actually be more likely to get appropriate treatment.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 05:51 AM
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No, I don’t think that hookup culture would change. I think men would stop accusing women of lying about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 05:51 AM
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I don’t like that term. It’s one of the handfuls that FDS always uses, and it basically seems like ‘good tradcon man who can afford to be the sole breadwinner, and is a patient and loving husband and father.’ Nothing wrong with that, as far as it goes, but they act like that’s the only way to be a good man, and that’s never been what I wanted. It feels like they’re dissing my man, who is perfect for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 11:46 PM
1

I’m married, but I have family and friends, including young women, who are not. And I also think that there theory has a negative impact on society as a whole.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 01:11 PM
1

Lack of respect or contempt Ignores or rides over your opinion on what should be cooperative decisions/acts unilaterally on important decisions. Vicious/bad temper Drunkenness or drug use; frequent gambling Bad/aggressive driving Embarrasses you in public
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 11:17 AM
9

The way terps describe ‘how women operate’ is hateful and contemptuous.
/r/ExRedPill18/09/22 04:14 AM
1

I wasn’t, when I was in college.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 04:12 AM
4

It’s relevant because lesbian porn is supposedly ‘focused on women’s pleasure.’ It’s still actresses who are pretending to like actions that are being played for a camera. And a lot of ‘amateur’ porn is (or was, as of several years ago when I was single) still completely male-directed, with women who are clearly humoring their men, multiple position changes, men manhandling women like they’re changing a doll’s positions, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 12:40 PM
5

No.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 12:14 PM
1

A lot of women like ‘ethnic’ men just fine, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 10:03 AM
1

And yet it’s not the women who aren’t getting what they want🤔 Elliott Rodger had a nice face , and there’s not a single woman who listened to him for more than 30 seconds who was surprised that he couldn’t get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 09:54 AM
1

Same
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 09:49 AM
1

Annnd this is why even fat women turn down men like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 09:47 AM
6

Exactly! Not to mention that a woman who is already in a LTR isn’t likely to ruin that for a fling with a stranger that isn’t even going to get her off, no matter how good looking men think he is.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 09:40 AM
2

I don’t know why men cannot understand that the things that make a man attractive to other men, are not necessarily the things that make him attractive to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 09:33 AM
2

r/menandfemales Men have all kinds of pressure to assist with the offspring of at least one woman, since it’s their generational fitness as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 08:37 PM
6

You mean an original post, vs. a response? I’m kind of busy for the next three days, but if you want to copy-paste these links in your own post, I won’t mind :)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 01:41 PM
2

I’ll take your word for it. I’m guessing it’s mainly for Asian guys who are IN Asia, though?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 01:39 PM
4

Christ, I am so grateful that my husband didn’t do this. Another reason to go for Asian men, girlfriends: not a lot of Asian dudes in porn, so they actually learn from having sex with real women (N = 1, so YMMV).
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 11:56 AM
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Ask the woman you’re about to have sex with, genius.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 11:51 AM
8

FUCK NO. Trying to emulate porn makes men HORRIBLE at sex. The women in porn are actresses, whose job is to convince you that they are enjoying what is actually, usually, uncomfortable to downright painful and/or degrading. Even the actors aren’t actually enjoying themselves as much as it might appear. https://cafemom.com/lifestyle/107777-5_ways_porn_makes_men https://porsiempre31.wordpress.com/2015/08/27/an-open-letter-from-an-ex-porn-star/ https://www.vocativ.com/286135/caverject-penis-injury/…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 11:42 AM
2

It takes time 🤷🏻‍♀️ That doesn’t mean that it’s not possible. There’s a reason romance movies and novels hold so much suspense for women. It’s one of the most impactful decisions we will ever make about our lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 11:26 AM
2

Yes, and human children need more than one adult’s contribution to survive and achieve fitness as adults.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 11:24 AM
1

The fact that you don’t fit her requirements doesn’t mean that she can’t find a man who fits her requirements.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 10:41 AM
1

Society doesn’t ‘assume’ the closest male is responsible. Gene-based paternity tests are available at drug stores for men who doubt their paternity, and medical/legal chain of custody tests can be done as well. But, yeah. More birth control options for men would be good.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 10:40 AM
2

It’s the ‘No kids in the next two years’ part that was probably the deal breaker- 100% understandable for a PhD student, but also critical for a woman looking at having her own child rather than using an egg donor.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 10:12 AM
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A lot of women are ok with never having kids. A lot of women are also ok with having roommates or friends to share costs with.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 10:10 AM
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In addition to the data that you’re seeking, I strongly suggest that you seek professional help. What you are describing sounds a lot like depression, which by definition is self-reinforcing because it impairs your ability to do things to help yourself. There is no shame in a member of a social species seeking help from other members of the same species.
/r/ExRedPill16/09/22 02:41 AM
0

https://www.reddit.com/r/wallstreetbets/comments/xf4zml/puts_on_this_guys_marriage/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 02:34 AM
5

This.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 01:58 AM
4

Average, ugly, short, poor, fat, etc people are managing to get together all the time in the real world.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 01:57 AM
9

I shouldn’t be asked to submit by someone I love.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 01:51 AM
4

The number of men (or women) who make such great leaders that they should be submitted to as a matter of course is vanishingly small. Most humans do better cooperatively.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 01:50 AM
5

That is, frankly, just disgusting. A family should not be a military hierarchy and should not be an employee-employer relationship. The reason that women- or men- will allow the person who is paying them in return for their labor, and not their spouse- is that spousal relationships should be based on equality, not hierarchy. Home should be a haven, not another prison.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 01:47 AM
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By definition, it does.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 08:21 PM
10

Is it offensive for you to cook for a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 08:19 PM
10

And employer is not a partner, and does not make the pretense of being one. And an employee makes no promise of sticking with an employer if the terms become unsatisfactory.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 08:18 PM
12

Right? They think that our only options are someone who wants a long-term bangmaid (OP), or someone who wants a short-term bang. The idea that there might be men out there who actually believe women are people is just beyond them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 08:15 PM
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snort It’s an issue that both partners face. It is brought up only on one side here because OP is pretending that this side doesn’t exist. Men trapping women in relationships by sabotaging birth control is a pretty well-known phenomenon. There were/are PUAs who specifically instructed men to remove condoms during sex, for example. https://utswmed.org/medblog/reproductive-coercion/
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 04:22 PM
6

Actually, a minority of women who are single parents were never married. Most single mothers are so because of divorce, and contra terp theory, most of them divorce because it’s less work for them to be single than to have a man in the house who acts like another child. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single_parents_in_the_United_States Most of them would have stayed married if they had a real partner, but most of them get primary custody because the fathers- their ex husbands- did little to non…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 04:20 PM
3

Women do not ‘benefit’ from all of this male attention. Most of them hate it. My TEN YEAR OLD niece has already had men following her around. And that is a COMMON. Experience for young women. Do you think that’s somehow beneficial?! FFS, it’s not just women who lack empathy, here.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 10:52 AM
3

It’s always telling that they only post half of the data😂
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 10:46 AM
0

You actually said, quote, “nothing but.”
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 09:40 AM
1

You’re not correct about what 2x is, but again: most women are not online complaining about men, and the ones who are are not usually single😂
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 04:49 AM
4

They have. Most women are out there living their lives, not on here.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 03:17 AM
1

I was responding to a post, not to the title.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 03:14 AM
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They have, and do.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 06:32 PM
2

Sharing the driver’s seat isn’t necessarily ‘less,’ though. Sometimes you’ve had a rough day, and it’s nice to let someone else drive. There are conditions in which someone else might be a better driver. Sometimes someone needs to navigate.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 06:22 PM
0

Was there a question?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 06:18 PM
-1

Hey, just a note: it’s kind of gross to use ‘males and women’ or ‘men and females.’ One is species specific, the other is not; please say ‘men and women,’ or, if you’re referring to any species, ‘males and females.’
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 04:43 PM
1

Because the right is still trying to keep ‘white men in the driver’s seat always.’
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 10:04 AM
2

“All the girls walk by, dressed up for each other…” Wild Night, Van Morrison, 1971 https://youtu.be/VX2_HahKoe4 This is not exactly a new idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 07:44 AM
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It’s a front seat. Sometimes it’s even the driver’s seat. It’s just that men have felt entitled to drive for so long that they freak out when it’s no longer a guarantee.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 07:32 AM
2

And the right doesn’t? Claiming that they want smaller government while getting the government into people’s marriages. Claiming that they don’t want the government to ‘pick favorites’ in the free market, while being all for extravagant corporate welfare (and also claiming to be for a free market..). Being against government spending, except for the biggest expenses (the military). Claiming to be against racism while electing candidates that make policies that steal brown children from their par…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 07:31 AM
2

I’d call them bitches, and/or misanthropic. That’s not really specific to misandry. I have one co-worker who doesn’t really dislike men, but also doesn’t really like or value them; she’s super pretty, and I think the level of male monitoring, dishonest overtures, and simple pestering that very pretty women get can cause them to, at the least, not value men as much. The most misandrist women I’ve known have also been very pretty. I call them out on specific comments, and I’ll only set them up wit…
/r/ExRedPill13/09/22 05:33 AM
6

🤜fistbump Yeah, I was celibate for about 10 years once- partly by choice, in that I wasn’t actively seeking anything, but I would have fallen happily into a relationship if a decent guy had asked. Most young women can get sex fairly easily, but that’s basically worthless to most of us. Additionally, someone who is shy and doesn’t dress to the 9s regularly doesn’t draw male attention like a drama Queen on ticktock.
/r/ExRedPill12/09/22 10:12 AM
0

“Across human existence “
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 08:17 AM
9

How much of that is due to lack of sleep? It was used as a form of torture , and women literally confessed to witchcraft and ‘having sex with the devil,’ even knowing that they’d be murdered for it, during the witch burnings.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 09:43 PM
4

Yes. Any man who has only daughters, and his Y chromosome has reached a dead end. The rest of his genes might be doing just fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 09:26 PM
1

Why would you assume that all humans have equal proclivity towards monogamy, much less that what is ‘natural’ must be ‘good’?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 09:24 PM
3

And by ‘get’ you mean ‘hold in sexual slavery.’
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 09:23 PM
1

‘Ask someone else.’
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 07:59 AM
6

You can’t call it ‘accidental’ just because the psychological torture isn’t having the desired affect.
/r/ExRedPill08/09/22 09:51 PM
2

They do. https://sdlawcollege.com/admission/best-answer-what-percentage-of-college-students-are-virgins.html
/r/ExRedPill08/09/22 11:42 AM
2

Many women try a few hookups to start with, until they realize it’s not worth it. FWBs are had for the same reason as men. I can’t speak to the others.
/r/ExRedPill08/09/22 08:35 AM
5

Women do not have dating as a whole in easy mode, only the part they don’t want. Women, by and large, hate dating and often would rather be single than date.
/r/ExRedPill07/09/22 10:53 PM
5

You claimed that women have ‘easy mode.’ If all you mean is that women can get a ONS easy, that’s what you should have said. Sure? Most women could… and most women do not want that. What good is a ONS if you are not, statistically, even going to get an orgasm out of it? You’re better off staying home with your own private Chad Thundercock(nsfw).
/r/ExRedPill07/09/22 10:19 PM
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A significant part of terp theory is “AWALT,” basically that all women are exactly the same software plugged into different packages, so there is zero reason to not pursue the physical package over every other aspect a woman has. Admitting that women are humans, with human variation, is admitting a first step in admitting that terp theory is wrong.
/r/ExRedPill07/09/22 08:53 PM
3

This is the female version of ‘men having it easier.’ She’s basically talking about how men are judged differently for the same behaviors as women: https://youtu.be/AqAJLh9wuZ0
/r/ExRedPill07/09/22 08:48 PM
1

Sure, sure. Declare victory and go home. Re-read this in a month, I dare you😂
/r/ExRedPill07/09/22 08:41 PM
0

P1: makes unsupportable claim P2: refutes the claim P1: straw-man accusation of the hero-worship of a crazy rich dude, reassertion of claims, accusation of ‘buying into propaganda.’ P2: further refutation of points with citations and logic P1: denial of initial claims, accusations of ‘triggering’ because P2 is refuting their claims, tripling down on claims. I have literally never seen an add for a Tesla, dude.
/r/ExRedPill07/09/22 05:33 PM
2

all humans, men included, are driven by emotions. Love, desire, anger, joy, and disgust are all among the factors that drive us all to motion. even if you are capable, temporarily, of setting aside your emotions and pursuing your goals like a mindless automaton that only considers inputs and outputs, the goal that you are working towards is still a result of your emotions. You would have no reason to o keep moving, otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 03:39 PM
0

Why can't you understand that the mining of the metals required to build these cars generate immense emissions and they exploit slave labor in countries they get these metals from. By eroding the natural ecosystem. I’ve already acknowledged this. ICE cars do the same, and worse. You speak as though EVs are born messily, of mammals, but ICE cars are brought by storks who survive on sunlight alone. The work has been done to compare the entire lifetime environmental impacts of EVs vs. ICEs, and EVs…
/r/ExRedPill07/09/22 03:08 PM
1

You tarred all electric cars in the process. I pointed out that you were wrong on several of your facts, in defense of electric cars in general. You somehow parleyed those into a Musk worshiping straw man to avoid admitting that you were wrong.
/r/ExRedPill07/09/22 03:03 AM
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What I already said sums up my impression of your actual motivations.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 03:01 AM
7

A lot of women try it, and then quit. This is not rocket science.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 09:21 PM
8

Gasp! people I disapprove of are having sex with each other! And not with me! /s
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 09:13 PM
10

You should absolutely stay away from American women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 09:11 PM
1

So? Who owns Toyota or Chevrolet? IDGAF.
/r/ExRedPill06/09/22 05:47 PM
2

No-fault divorce hasn’t been universally available ‘for hundreds of years,’ actually. There’s a pretty famous series of queens in England, for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 05:46 PM
2

The caveat negates the comparison.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 12:16 PM
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