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http://register-him.wikispaces.com/ Happy now? also, the sex offender registry already is a register-him, although it is gender neutral, we all know how much easier it is to convict men than women of sexual abuse.
/r/MensRights26/10/11 08:12 PM
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They typically aren't even specifically gender segregated. The segregation is typically incidental, because the fitting room happens to be near women's or men's clothing sections, which are typically segregated. If a man wants to try on women's clothing it makes sense to do so in the nearest fitting room, which would be near the women's clothing. If that behavior was against the store's policy, I imagine SRS would be up in arms about it and call for a boycott of that store, which I find rather i…
/r/MensRights24/10/11 06:56 PM
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He wasn't in a space set up for women to get changed. He was on a wall, in a store which is open to the public, NEAR changing rooms. That is no worse/different from leaning on a wall near a women's restroom while waiting for a woman to finish her business. I consider it harassment to tell someone to leave a public area because they are making people uncomfortable by their mere presence. The business is well within it's rights to do this, but before I allow them to do so I will make it abundantly…
/r/MensRights24/10/11 06:02 PM
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Keep dreaming. This had only been up for 39 minutes when you posted this comment. It wasn't substantially effecting vote totals yet. The thing is most SRS subscribers do not subscribe for the SRS circlejerk, but actually to counter it. I voted in that thread long before it was crossposted here, and I know many other people did as well. And do you honestly believe there is something wrong with browsing on your phone, leaning against a wall NEAR not even in the dressing rooms while waiting for a G…
/r/MensRights24/10/11 05:41 PM
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In some places HE would be prosecuted for rape. That night Ryan took me by surprise. = rape. Men can rape people while they are asleep and still be held liable for it. If she decided to claim he raped her while he was asleep, there is literally nothing he can do to defend himself except hire a good lawyer and hope he gets a sympathetic jury. If he decided to claim she raped him at night, all she would have to do is tell the police that he had sex with her consensually, even though he doesn't rem…
/r/MensRights20/10/11 09:30 PM
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because IF a crime has in fact been committed, AND you lock of someone innocent, THEN the guilty party is still in fact free. Ahh yes, that is very true, but not always. Sometimes, in fact I would say probably most of the time with false rape accusations specifically, there may have been no crime actually committed. There may not be a guilty person going free for every innocent person who is convicted. BTW, you seem to be conflated "false accusations" with "false confessions". The former exist w…
/r/MensRights20/10/11 08:18 PM
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Hyphenated last names get crazy.... My friend has a hyphenated last name because of this. My mother, who was my father;'s first wife, took his name, and still kept it to this day, his second wife kept her name. I am lucky enough not to have a hyphenated name, and am glad my mother took my father's name.
/r/MensRights20/10/11 08:12 PM
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Yes, Ron Paul is a fucking unelectable loonatic. He might help men's rights, but it is so not worth it because of all the other damage he would do to this country. Obama 2012
/r/MensRights20/10/11 07:58 PM
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The supreme court's interpretation of the 14th amendment applies the right of privacy to the states, and the supreme court ruled in Roe V Wade that the right to legal and safe abortion is covered under the right to privacy. The supreme court is the body which gets to decide these issues of constitutionality. Just because you disagree with them doesn't make your interpretation of the constitution correct. If you disagree with the supreme court ruling, get a constitutional amendment passed. Until …
/r/MensRights20/10/11 07:55 PM
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thanks!
/r/MensRights20/10/11 07:47 PM
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Are you fucking serious? Or making fun of the feminist thought process? Because poe's law is in full effect, and I can't tell if you are being sarcastic. In case you are serious, it is a much better outcome to allow an actual guilty person to walk free than to convict an innocent person. Also, it doesn't follow that for each person who is falsely convicted one real offender got away with it. I would hope that for each innocent person who is falsely convicted that many more actual guilty people w…
/r/MensRights20/10/11 07:31 PM
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http://www.feministcritics.org/blog/2010/05/19/skepticism-and-criticism-of-kelly-lovett-regan-noh/
/r/MensRights20/10/11 07:08 PM
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Wonderful point. It saddens me that something like that is on wikipedia.
/r/MensRights20/10/11 07:01 PM
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I second spagma's comment, why? It seems like ads like this are a good thing, letting men know they should get their own lawyer in these cases. Often times the woman will get a lawyer who is trying to get as much for her as possible, and the men will not get their own lawyer and just use the same one, who is not serving their best interests. I've heard of cases where the woman's lawyer tells her to lie about drug abuse and domestic violence in order to get more money (which meant more money for …
/r/MensRights20/10/11 06:22 PM
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That is not a good solution... statements like that are why a big part of reddit thinks that mensrights are just a bunch of trolls. A better idea is what I said, that we need to make the standard of evidence for rape the same as for murder or any other crime. It shouldn't be any easier to prosecute a rapist than a murderer. We should maintain innocence until proven guilty, and protect the anonymity of the accused until convicted (something we don't even do for murder) just because false accusati…
/r/MensRights19/10/11 10:10 PM
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Very true. That is why I think it is ridiculous to pass laws which regulate criminal behavior. If something is already illegal, in this case perving in a restroom, then we don't need extra laws to regulate that activity, such as not allowing men in women s restroom, etc. We can allow men into the women's restroom without fear, because it is still illegal if they do anything inappropriate. It is the same thing with allowing guns in bars for sober people. It is still illegal to get drunk with your…
/r/MensRights19/10/11 09:58 PM
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What if his intent was to merely use the stall and secretly install a tiny secret camera? Obviously that is still illegal, but wouldn't be very obvious to the other occupants of the restroom. A creepy cisgendered individual could use the protection of this law to install secret cameras in many restrooms. I'm just playing devil's advocate here, I simply understand that there are some reasonable concerns about this law, but I still think it is a valuable law. People have to get over the idea that …
/r/MensRights19/10/11 09:20 PM
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Very true. We have laws against perving in the restroom, that was my point. Homosexuals can already perv in their respective restrooms. This just provides a little protection for people who look like men to go into women restrooms, and visa versa. some of the people who try to take advantage of those protections will be cisgendered, not transgendered. I think that is an acceptable consequence of this needed legislation. And it isn't where people know you that this is an issue, it is at the mall,…
/r/MensRights19/10/11 08:55 PM
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Of course, my point was that punishment will not make men safer from false accusations, because the vast majority of false accusations will of course be unpunishable. The only way to make men safer is to change the justice system such that innocent people are not convicted wrongly, and protect the anonymity of the accused until proven guilty.
/r/MensRights19/10/11 06:56 PM
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I think the point is that men could use the women's restroom and claim protection under this law even if they are not really transgender. As I said in my other comment, if that makes it harder to get rid of creepy cisgendered perverts in the wrong restroom then so be it, it is worth it to allow transgendered individuals to be able to use the restroom that makes them more comfortable. However, I can see how it is a valid concern for some people, they just need to get over it. We need to become le…
/r/MensRights19/10/11 06:15 PM
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Anyone should be able to use whatever restroom makes them feel more comfortable. If someone else has an issue with that, tough shit. If someone is being creepy and leering at other restroom inhabitants or doing something else inappropriate, then that is a violation of a different law, and they are still not breaking any rules simply by being in the restroom. If this makes it harder to get rid of creepy perverts oogling people in the other gender restroom, so be it, it is worth it to be able to a…
/r/MensRights19/10/11 06:10 PM
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Then again, maybe if we started to actually charge and try more false accusers, and hand our more significant senteces, victims wouldn't need to worry so much about preemptively protecting themselves. That is the same logic the other side uses to justify higher sentences and ways to make it easier to punish rapists (or even those accused of rape, even if they are not rapists). Despite all the harsh punishments and lack of due process, people still rape. I fear the same would be true here, no mat…
/r/MensRights19/10/11 05:58 PM
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I'm more afraid of the world that makes them a necessity.
/r/MensRights19/10/11 04:46 PM
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The issue becomes privacy, I don't want to be flmed everywhere... because, sadly, cabs are not the only place where false rape claims happen. We need to be filmed everywhere, and soon we will have the technology to do it. Hell, they already do it in london. I wish there was a legal solution that didn't require constant evidence of wha you are doing. Innocent until proven guilty!
/r/MensRights19/10/11 02:40 PM
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Wow, you are ridiculous. So 3% are definitely, provably without a doubt false. Those are the cases which should be prosecuted, and those people who made those false accusations should be in jail. But what about all the cases where it is not provably false, but is still a false claim? Obviously we can't prosecute people for that, but it is still a false accusation. You can't possibly be making the claim that all false claims must be provably false, otherwise it was not a false claim and a rape re…
/r/MensRights18/10/11 08:42 PM
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No i'm dead serious. I have been fighting against posters like this, frequently displayed at slut walks, for several months. I support the slut walks generally, but the male blaming, helpless victim sentiment I can not abide. They are being counterproductive.
/r/MensRights18/10/11 05:46 PM
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Yes this is terrible fucking offensive. I've seen this before in a different configuration but basically the exact same 10 list. It is condescending, useless, and belittling. It contributes to the idea that women can't do anything to prevent rape, or even to help fight against it. It turns women into helpless victims who don't have the power to help themselves and are at the mercy of men.
/r/MensRights18/10/11 05:07 PM
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My standard is "for all we know, he might be innocent". Her lying is just one of the many reasons why he might be innocent. They might have a case of mistaken identity, or she might not fully remeber the event but actually consented. I never imply that I know she is lying, I simply state that it might not have been rape, for various reasons I usually state, otherwise if I didn't state the reasons the people who have already condemned him will just laugh me off and say he is guilty. And please li…
/r/MensRights18/10/11 02:06 PM
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Wow, so you think that 52% of offenders being African American means that white people are just as likely to be criminals? Have you checked the demographics of the United States? African Americans make up about 12.6% of the population, so the fact that they make up over half the population of offenders shows that they are significantly more likely than white people to be criminals. That doesn't mean that anyone is justified in displaying fear around all African Americans. And about your other st…
/r/MensRights17/10/11 08:39 PM
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But statistically, it's more likely not to be You cannot back up that claim. I can link you several studies which show that the percentage of false reports may well be over 50% in some places for some time periods. it IS possible to sympathize with someone without condemning the person they're accusing. Sure that IS possible, but I still take issue with the people who do condemn the person they are accusing. That doesn't mean I'm a rape apologist, it means I don't agree with people who condemn s…
/r/MensRights17/10/11 08:31 PM
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What bullshit would that be exactly? There was no logical error that was pointed out. Neither men nor women can completely stop rape, that is part of the point of this post. The title "women can stop rape" is deliberately poking fun at the "men can stop rape" campaign. But it has a good point, that women can do just as much to stop rape as men can by changing their attitudes, and it thrust a bit of that discomfort back onto women than men feel with the "men can stop rape" campaign. You must not …
/r/MensRights17/10/11 06:15 PM
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What steps can I take to keep men from raping women, other than not raping anyone myself? I don't laugh at rape jokes, and I would report a friend if I thought he had raped anyone, so i'm doing my part, rape should be a thing of the past soon. Or maybe we can work on reducing the child abuse which creates most rapists in the first place, much of which is perpetrated by women. Now you get to feel a bit of what men feel with the "men can stop rape" campaign. You must not like feeling personally re…
/r/MensRights17/10/11 06:12 PM
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Exactly. But so many people on this subreddit get SO ANGRY that a white person might become nervous around a black person when they are out alone. HOW DARE they think he's a criminal? Would you consider it acceptable to say what you just said about a black person? It is statistically more likely that a man will rape you than a woman, but it is also statistically more likely that a black person will commit a crime against you than a white person. That doesn't justify acting afraid of black people…
/r/MensRights17/10/11 06:08 PM
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I was considering the possibility of her drugging and milking you for your sperm without your knowledge, you would think you were just asleep. It has happened...
/r/MensRights17/10/11 02:48 PM
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Don't forget sometimes women "magically" get pregnant with your semen even if you don't have sex with them. The only sure way not to procreate is not to live. You can have semen taken from you without your knowledge against your will.
/r/MensRights16/10/11 03:16 PM
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that site hijacked my browser too opening a second window which has a confirmation box to be able to close it. I hate it when websites do that.
/r/MensRights14/10/11 11:26 PM
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That's not the real therealbarackobama.
/r/MensRights14/10/11 08:39 PM
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I downvoted because I am not proud of my body because I am circumcised, but in spite of it. Therefore, your question is invalid. What you should have asked is upvote if you are circumcised and happy that you were circumcised.
/r/MensRights13/10/11 02:34 PM
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I think it is their joke because I explained the difference between a pedophile and an ephebophile, and then was very clear that I am neither. But since I defend people who like to view jailbait but do not hurt anyone, I am branded a pedophile. If i'm seen as a monster it is easier to dismiss my arguments. They love to say that an ephebophile is just a pedophile with a thesaurus.
/r/MensRights12/10/11 07:31 PM
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He likes to cut baby dicks FTFY
/r/MensRights12/10/11 05:07 PM
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I am circumcised, I am proud of my body, I will not upvote you. I downvoted, because I wish I had been allowed to make the choice for myself. I would not have chosen to have my penis mutilated for no medical reason.
/r/MensRights12/10/11 05:00 PM
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First of all, that isn't really personal privacy. Your username is public, and if you use the same username for other things and you don't want people to find them, I recommend you change your username immediately. However, the stalker like nature of these people is frustrating, I know. Many of them watch my user page here on reddit and downvote my submissions just because I posted them. If they drudge up any real personal info on you, such as phone number and address, and post it on reddit, tha…
/r/MensRights11/10/11 09:20 PM
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This source didn't work for me. The ruling is real however, try this one http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report_supreme-court-rules-no-corroboration-required-in-rape-cases_1597643
/r/MensRights11/10/11 08:33 PM
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Hell yes they would. I have been arguing with people on there who actually believe that anyone who looks at r/jailbait and considers those pictures sexually attractive should be forced to undergo mandatory pedophile treatment therapy. They linked me to this site, with a program specifically desined for people who are going to be released from prison into society, which admits that "While most treatments for mental disease aim to help the patient, treatment for pedophilia is primarily intended to…
/r/MensRights11/10/11 05:59 PM
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No, if both are found to be "too drunk", whatever that means, and there was consent, then neither is liable. But if one is more sober than the other it calls everything into question, that the sober one could have been taking advantage of the other, and you know damn well it will apply primarily to men who are seen as the sex seekers and not women, who are seen as the ones who need to be coerced or drugged into having sex.
/r/MensRights10/10/11 11:10 PM
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“The criminal code is quite clear that if a person is intoxicated, they are unable to consent to sexual activity,” said Carolyn Hlady, acting staff sergeant in the sex crimes unit of the Saskatoon Police Service. Hlady was careful to mention that “two people can have too much to drink and still have consensual sex” but that consent still needs to be explicit and freely given. How is that not a contradiction? Either a drunk person can legally consent, or they can't. If you are going to make a lin…
/r/MensRights10/10/11 08:52 PM
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I see it having little to do with molestation, don't get that drunk because other people will do shit to you that you won't like. He acknowledges that the act was evil, not implying it was ok. I think he just recognizes punishment for this crime is impossible, esecially because she is dead.
/r/MensRights08/10/11 06:06 AM
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If the world is just and fair, a violent crime like rape is inexplicable. However, if the victim did something to "deserve" the assault (for example, being drunk), that makes much more sense. There is another line of reasoning that explains my beliefs though. The world is not just and fair, and rape cannot be completely eliminated from our society, and can happen to anyone. That makes it logical for everyone to want to protect themselves at all times, to the best of their ability. If rape victim…
/r/MensRights06/10/11 09:59 PM
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Ok, I read about the just world hypothesis. That isn't what I believe, but I can see how it might be present in many cases of victim blame. I am all too aware that bad things can happen to anyone, at any time, for possibly no reason at all. I am simply also pragmatic, and think that people have the power to help reduce their chances of having bad things happen to them, at any time, wherever they are. However, it seems to me, though, that you are laying all of the blame on the victim and not enou…
/r/MensRights06/10/11 09:36 PM
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And to quote your earlier comment: This is still an example of victim blaming. The victim of a mugging is not responsible for the fact that someone else mugged him. He should be able to walk down the street unmolested, no matter what he is wearing or what time it is. The only person responsible is the person that mugged him, as the mugger should have practiced some self-restraint instead of attacking another person. This is an example of the conflict between pragmatism and idealism. He should be…
/r/MensRights06/10/11 09:02 PM
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"She was raped because she walked home alone in the dark. I would never do that, so I won't be raped." That is a bit over the top, the "I would never do that, so I won't be raped." is clearly a false statement. I don't condone that sort of statement, it is not helpful. If you want to define what I said earlier as victim blame, then that is a helpful form of victim blame, and not a problem, something that should be encouraged because it helps prevent rapes. People taking responsibility for their …
/r/MensRights06/10/11 08:52 PM
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are held entirely or partially responsible for the transgressions committed against them That is the important aspect. It is the transference of responsibility from the perpetrator to the victim that makes it victim blame. If you think that the perpetrator should get a lighter sentence or should walk away free because of actions the victim took or didn't take, that is victim blame. If you think the victim should be punished, or should just accept what happened to them because of their actions, t…
/r/MensRights06/10/11 08:34 PM
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Man asks 13 y/o girl if she wants company, presumably she says no and he leaves, she tells mom, police get called, and now there is a manhunt for the guy who never touched the girl. Awesome.
/r/MensRights06/10/11 08:02 PM
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There is one aspect that I think you overlook in that simplification of reality. When a predator fails to capture their prey, they will always continue to go after other members of the herd, because they need to do so to survive. Rape has a more complex motivation than the simple need to feed. It is often not even about the need for sex and the desire to reproduce. It is often about the hunger for power. It is a less strong motivation for many rapists than the need to survive, and it is often in…
/r/MensRights06/10/11 07:47 PM
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But you do not have omnipotent power. The victim has no control over the rapist. The victim can only control their own actions. Certainly the rapists themselves have power to not rape, but that isn't much help to the victim of a rape. The victim can only control their own behavior, and if they can avoid rape through their own actions, they should endeavour to do so for their own sake. The victim can assert direct influence over the rapist's actions by fighting back or avoiding making themselves …
/r/MensRights06/10/11 07:37 PM
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I will admit it often comes off as insensitive. But it is still good advice, and I spend many hours defending men who give that advice to women who have recently been raped, so I would be hypocritical not to defend people who give that advice to men who have been molested or raped. I am all for equality, everyone should get a healthy dose of reality when something they did made it easier for something terrible to happen to them. It isn't their fault that the terrible thing happened to them, whoe…
/r/MensRights06/10/11 07:31 PM
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Classic victim blame here. The difference between this comment and the one you posted which makes yours victim blame and anotherdroid's not victim blame is that you think the criminal should walk free because of the actions of the victim. You think that the victim's behavior excuses the rapist from responsibility, which is victim blame. anotherdroid on the other hand still thinks the rapist is evil and should be punished, but recognises that society will likely not punish this person, and even i…
/r/MensRights06/10/11 07:25 PM
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Nope, saying what someone could have done to prevent the terrible thing that happened to them is advice, not blame. If somene got mugged walking down a dark alley in a bad part of town, I would say, "well that was stupid, don't walk own a dark alley in a bad part of town. You could have prevented that mugging." But that isn't to say I think the mugger should go free. It is still the muggers fault, he is the one being blamed. It is still good advice not to walk down dark alleys in bad parts of to…
/r/MensRights06/10/11 07:05 PM
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Of course it applies. It is not victim blame, it was not the victim's fault, it is the rapist's fault or the molester's fault. But that doesn't change that the victim is the person most able to prevent a rape or molestation. Controlling yourself is the most important thing you can do to prevent this sort of thing from happening to you. Good advice is not victim blame. See, look at this comment. THAT is victim blame. The difference is that person wants the rapist/molester to walk free, since it w…
/r/MensRights06/10/11 06:36 PM
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That is not victim blame, it is good advice. It isn't victim blame when we say the exact same damn thing to a girl who gets raped when she passes out drunk at a party. She should learn to control herself with liquor, or not drink so much. Same thing here. It's not that it is his fault he got molested, the only person to blame is the person who molested him. It's just that he should be more intelligent in the future for HIS OWN SAKE. See, look at this comment. THAT is victim blame. The difference…
/r/MensRights06/10/11 06:26 PM
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Haha, I loled. You're right, it is making me kindof depressed lately.
/r/MensRights06/10/11 04:43 PM
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Not all guys are the sex seekers, you are being ridiculously misogynistic to not recognize that girls also want to have sex, and often seek it from guys when they are drunk and social inhibitions are lowered. Girls have a right to seek sex while they are drunk, therefore guys have a right to accept their advances without having to fear being accused of rape. If the guy is just going along with a woman's advances and not pressuring her, using coercion, or forcing her to drink or consume anything …
/r/MensRights06/10/11 04:42 PM
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That is a great post.
/r/MensRights06/10/11 04:37 PM
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They think that being "politically correct" means applying their weird morality filter to everyone, specifically to promote the supremacy of women.
/r/MensRights06/10/11 04:31 PM
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Ya that's an interesting point. The woman gives consent to sex, she didn't intend to regret it, then she does regret it so she calls it rape. That is no different from a man consenting to be punched, then dieing from it which he didn't intend, but it is still not murder. Whoever punched him was just doing what he wanted.
/r/MensRights06/10/11 04:25 PM
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It's insulting to tell men that they can prevent rape by not raping anyone. I wouldn't expect you to understand.
/r/MensRights06/10/11 03:55 AM
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That is easy, the girls aren't responsible for their own actions at all. The girls don't need to change their behavior at all, it is only the rapist's (man's) responsibility not to rape. Girls can get drunk all they want and try to get sex from guys, they can be enthusiastically seeking the sex, and if the guy gives in and accepts the girl's advances, BAM, he is a rapist. Hell, she could rape him, as long as she is drunk and goes to the police calling it rape, he is the rapist, not her.
/r/MensRights05/10/11 09:02 PM
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Ya, it sounds great in theory... And in theory, theory should be the same as practice, but in practice, it isn't.
/r/MensRights05/10/11 04:10 PM
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I don't know why you were at 0 when I read this. Who downvoted you for that? http://www.mencanstoprape.org/ is offensive for the exact same reason.
/r/MensRights05/10/11 04:07 PM
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Interesting perspective, that sheds a lot of light on it actually.
/r/MensRights05/10/11 02:35 PM
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My argument was that it is useless and insulting. The sexist part is just why it is more insulting to men than women, but since it is technically gender neutral it should be at least a little insulting to both genders.
/r/MensRights05/10/11 02:27 PM
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I was just asking you to speculate as to how it could possibly feel better cut than intact. I am cut, and speculate that it would feel better intact, based on my available information.
/r/MensRights04/10/11 11:28 PM
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Explain how you think it could possibly feel better. You have lost a lot of nerves, and the gliding motion of the foreskin stimulates both the nerves you are missing and the nerves on the head of the penis. Certainly for masturbation it would feel a lot better intact, no need for lube, just rub the shaft up and down and the head and foreskin get stimulated automatically.
/r/MensRights04/10/11 10:57 PM
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So will you in front of all of us announce that you would like to legalize type Ia female circumcision, the removal of the clit hood, and all FGM procedures less severe than that? If I decide to have my daughter's clit hood removed, would you stand with me to protest the unjust FGM law which denies my religious freedom?
/r/MensRights04/10/11 09:33 PM
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Exactly.
/r/MensRights04/10/11 08:58 PM
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do you have anything useful to say? If you honestly think none of the sign wavers think that rape can only be committed by men, make that claim. It will be much more difficult for you to prove that than it is to prove that at least one sign waver thinks rape is committed only by men.
/r/MensRights04/10/11 08:55 PM
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Yes, basically. I don't know why you are getting downvotes. I can see why it sounds like victim blame to people who don't want to have to keep themselves safe, but it is the best way to prevent it. When most rapes happen, there are only 2 people there, the rapist and the victim. Clearly the rapists missed or ignored the whole "don't rape anyone" message, so at that point when a rape is about to go down, only the victim can prevent it and save themselves. The victim has more power than ANYONE els…
/r/MensRights04/10/11 07:23 PM
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That is why you put a knife in the guy's hand and say he made a threatening motion so you had to shoot him out of fear for your life. Doesn't work so well for women who shot their abusive husband while he was asleep. No excuse there.
/r/MensRights04/10/11 07:03 PM
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It's pretty obvious. There are jurisdictions who still consider the definition of rape to be the nonconsensual penetration of the vulva or anus with a penis. People who follow that definition do not think that it is possible to commit rape unless you have a penis. They would define the forced woman on man vaginal rape to be a lesser type of sexual assault, along with forced penetration with an object or body part other than a penis. The United Nations defines it as "sexual intercourse without va…
/r/MensRights04/10/11 06:55 PM
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Well I wouldn't say they want to ask nicely. "Rapists, go fuck yourselves" isn't really a nice message, and if I was a rapist and heard that, I probably would head out to rape someone as soon as possible.
/r/MensRights04/10/11 06:40 PM
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For some people it is gender neutral, but some of the people waving these signs do not even think men can be raped by women, so for some people it isn't gender neutral. Even some of the people who acknowledge men can be raped and women can rape think it is such a small problem that it doesn't require any attention and that it shouldn't be a feminism issue. Which exposes the hypocrisy. They don't think that women need to be responsible for keeping other women from raping, but they make it sound l…
/r/MensRights04/10/11 06:35 PM
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That is another good point. It minimizes the involvement that many men will have in rape prevention. A non-rapist (the majority of the population) doesn't have to do anything in order to comply with these requests. How that will somehow magically stop rape i'm still trying to figure out.
/r/MensRights04/10/11 05:59 PM
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That is a great comeback. I'll have to use that.
/r/MensRights04/10/11 05:56 PM
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It is stupid and ineffective, but I also feel insulted by it. You are free to not be insulted by it, but I imagine if you attended one of these events and got yelled at by a pack of rabid feminists screaming "only rapists can stop rape", you would feel pretty blamed and insulted.
/r/MensRights04/10/11 05:52 PM
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First off, let me make myself clear, I am a supporter of the slutwalks, I think victim blaming is terrible, and I think women should be able to dress however they want and not have to worry about getting raped. I would love to be able to flip a magic switch and make it so that no one would ever rape anyone else ever again. Just eradicate that element of humanity forever. However, sadly, that switch doesn't exist. We must face reality in a world which is a scary place, full of people with much di…
/r/MensRights04/10/11 05:29 PM
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I doubt it. Most people do not consider FGM to be circumcision, they have to put it in a different category otherwise they couldn't justify their belief that male circumcision is not mutilation but FGM is.
/r/MensRights03/10/11 09:12 PM
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Differences in severity do not make mutilation acceptable. FGM procedures of type Ia which remove only the clit hood are also illegal despite being analogous to male circumcision. And what if the ban included a religious exception? I support a ban which includes an exception which allows male circumcision if both parents desire it for religious reasons. That would prevent circumcisions like mine, where there is no religious reason for the procedure.
/r/MensRights03/10/11 08:38 PM
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And the FGM ban is not?
/r/MensRights03/10/11 08:32 PM
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I was 16 the first time I had sex, and my girlfriend had just turned 18, and the age of consent was 18 in my state. However, they had a rule that if you were within 2 years of each other, which we were, it was not statutory rape. I think most states have rules like that, where people close in age are exempt from statutory rape laws. And the poster even said that the age of consent in her state is 16.
/r/MensRights03/10/11 04:44 PM
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It doesn't in general, but it does for this specific rapist. It is not worth dressing conservatively all th time because that won't make a difference, but for right now until they catch this guy in one place it is worth it.
/r/MensRights02/10/11 07:19 PM
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These people are so stupid, if they don't like having to subject themselves to dressing conservatively for a few days till they catch this guy who seems to be choosing targets based on atire, then dont. The police are not forcing anyone to dress a certain way, they are not arresting the victims who get raped because their skirts were too short. This is no victim blame. If you don't like the advice and don't think it is worth it given the perceived increased risk currently, then dress how you wan…
/r/MensRights02/10/11 03:24 PM
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I was making fun of the views of th people in SRS by exagerating their view that thinking teenagers are atractive is morally wrong, and taking it to its logical legal policy conclusion. It was sarcasm, I thiought that was clear with the "these people are insane", refering to SRS posters.
/r/MensRights01/10/11 03:15 PM
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I don't really understand where you are goin with this... But yes, pictures of naked children don't neccessarily constitute CP. You can find nude child images on google image search for "nudist". Parents who take nude, non-sexual photos of their children are not creating CP.
/r/MensRights01/10/11 03:08 PM
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These people are insane. Linking to a thread where people have all agreed that the attraction to underage people isn't morally wrong, just the stealing of the photos is wrong, and then they go and prove some people still think it is morally wrong to look at and find attractive a 15 year old. Everyone should lock their kids indoors till they are 18, and parrents should be prosecuted for child porn if they take pictures of their underage children. That is the only way to solve this "problem" of pe…
/r/MensRights01/10/11 02:49 PM
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I think it is a lot more fitting that a photoshoped set of boobs. I just am not evil enough to post that and make light of it, even to make a point.
/r/MensRights30/09/11 02:16 PM
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Sorry, but it sounds like you just really want to troll r/masculism and say how much they are not an equality movement, you are not helping the men's rights movement at all, and wont receive support here in r/MR. You are free to contribute to r/masculism in a non-troll fashion. You have made your desire not to participate clear, so don't participate if that is all you have to say. We are not going to change the name because you don't like it.
/r/MensRights29/09/11 05:47 PM
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There is no source in the world that can determine this percentage that I am guessing at, it is impossible to determine by it's very nature. This is the study I talked about which shows 6% of the accusations are provably false beyond any reasonable doubt, which is clearly a low baseline estimate. The number is most likely between that 6% and 64% which includes all cases without enough evidence to move forward to trial. Obviously some which moved forward to trial were false, and some that did not…
/r/MensRights26/09/11 04:59 PM
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There was a feminist at Stanford who claimed it was 2%. Oddly enough, the same person is leading the rallying cry behind the preponderance of the evidence method being used to punish suspected rapists at universities... Sick. Studies which count only cases where many significant witnesses have come out to say the accusation was false and cases where the accuser themselves recanted get a 6% figure. That is a VERY conservative baseline estimate. I'd say the true number must be closer to 20%.
/r/MensRights26/09/11 04:00 PM
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Liars.
/r/MensRights20/09/11 01:27 PM
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Ya I was gonna say that but its annoying to type on my phone.
/r/MensRights19/09/11 05:39 AM
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The feminists blame mras for this, they say tha we need to start and fund more homeless shelters for men and safety net programs for them.
/r/MensRights18/09/11 01:59 PM
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http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/kgoqv/til_who_the_feminist_writer_julie_bindel_is_and/c2k3raf
/r/MensRights15/09/11 07:52 PM
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Did you read those comments by queercoup?
/r/MensRights15/09/11 07:46 PM
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I'm just saying that its not just Bindel, lots of feminists all over the place are transphobes.
/r/MensRights15/09/11 06:35 PM
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Just look at what is going on with r/feminisms, even r/anarchism removed them from the sidebar for transphobia, and r/anarchism was like totally in bed with r/feminisms. http://www.reddit.com/r/metanarchism/comments/kec1v/proposal_remove_rfeminisms_from_the_sidebar_and/ Feminists just hate men too much to accept male to female transgendered individuals. When a male to female transgendered person wants to go to a women's only thing, the feminists cry that it will make them uncomfortable, and that…
/r/MensRights15/09/11 05:39 PM
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The point is she got a lighter sentence because the infant was so young, so it's as if she committed a different crime other than infanticide, which the article called 4th trimester abortion to be funny.
/r/MensRights15/09/11 12:03 AM
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The downvote brigade has arrived. http://www.reddit.com/r/ShitRedditSays/comments/kfqyh/misogyny_has_just_become_a_buzzword_for_feminists/
/r/MensRights14/09/11 11:58 PM
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Manboobz is a horrible misandrist, and we all know that already.
/r/MensRights14/09/11 11:55 PM
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I never told anyone they HAVE to limit their freedoms. I try to give suggestions of what people can do if they want to reduce their risk. I don't think that carrying a taser and not getting black out drunk is a huge limit on freedom. It is just common sense. Be prepared to defend yourself against a potential attacker. As a man, I am always prepared for that, women should be no different. Situational awareness is key.
/r/MensRights14/09/11 02:37 PM
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Yes it is our right. Just like it was the right of those people in Tuscon to go shopping at Safeway and not be murdered. They had the right to life, but it was still taken away from them. Rights do not keep you safe, only you can keep yourself safe. Don't pretend like this world will ever be perfectly safe in your lifetime, it won't be. You have to keep yourself safe, or accept the potential risks and consequences. It might be worth it to you to walk down that dark alley, and if so, great, go ah…
/r/MensRights14/09/11 02:20 PM
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But those of us who are rational about these issues can at least agree, I think, that people who espouse these kinds of nutter points of view are about as relevant to the discussion as the birthers, truthers and flat-earthers to their respective fields? Then those of us who are rational should agree that people who espouse the nutter beliefs that feminists demonize the MRA community for are not relevant to the discussion either. Things such as people who say that the victim deserved to be raped …
/r/MensRights14/09/11 02:08 AM
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Exactly! Thank you for sharing your story.
/r/MensRights13/09/11 11:55 PM
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Excellent work! I hadn't even seen that yet.
/r/MensRights13/09/11 11:23 PM
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Wow, I'm so sorry for what you had to go through, especially the reaction people have after the fact. It seems crazy to me that these people tell me I am not being sympathetic enough, and then those same people turn around and call you a rape apologist after what you went through, that is sick. Congratulations on being prepared and successfully defending yourself. I'm sure that person will think twice before trying to rape someone else. If more people would act like you and defend themselves, fe…
/r/MensRights13/09/11 11:06 PM
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Fair enough. I will consider that. Sadly though, in SRS my name has become a trigger word. They read the name and then ignore the rest of the post.
/r/MensRights13/09/11 09:55 PM
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But then, how do you prove when actual rape occurred and when it was just a shitty choice by the girl the night before to fuck a guy? That is a great question. It is really hard to prove an actual rape occurred. But that is the way it should be, because false accusations are common enough that putting the burden of proof on the accused to prove that they did not commit rape is wrong. It is almost easier sometimes to "prove" a false accusation than a real rape, because rather than tell the truth,…
/r/MensRights13/09/11 09:53 PM
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Oh man, that is a good one. 1338h4x always cracks me up. Its crazy to think that he/she is actually serious, but i think he/she is. Ya, I know the word "responsibility" confuses some people, but that is because they are not following my argument. Everyone is responsible for their own safety, yet if someone commits a crime against you that crime is not your fault, even if you failed to protect yourself. I think I made that clear. People should take responsibility for their own safety, but they ar…
/r/MensRights13/09/11 09:37 PM
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Here is another comment that got downvoted about "rapists don't rape" vs "women be safe". I don't understand why "rapists don't rape" has to be a counter to "women be safe", and used to argue that women shouldn't have any responsibility for their own safety. Basically they are saying that women cannot do anything to protect themselves from rape, and so they shouldn't even bother trying. Go ahead and get blackout drunk and walk home 20 blocks through a bad neighborhood, that is your right as a wo…
/r/MensRights13/09/11 08:36 PM
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Notice right below that it shows where the rapes occured. These stats do not include prison rape, which accounts for most male rape. Therefore, that statistic is inaccurate.
/r/MensRights13/09/11 02:19 PM
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Well, the feminists think buyers remorse is rape, and any sex they have, even consensual sex, while they are drunk is also rape. That is also the core of their statistis about how many rapists out there don't know that they are rapists, and the "fact" that the vast majority of rapes are unreported, or go unprosecuted.
/r/MensRights13/09/11 02:16 PM
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The people over in r/shitredditsays tare like this too, I put foward the crazy idea that if the accused says that the accuser consented, then the burden of proof must be on the accuser to prove she did not consent. Look at the reaction I got: http://www.reddit.com/r/ShitRedditSays/comments/k9eul/mens_rea_a_reason_to_give_more_credibility_to_the/
/r/MensRights11/09/11 07:10 PM
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It has to als be "reasonable" whatever that means. Still subjective. Basically, it comes down to his word against her word most times, and the can't convict unless they have compelling evidence, like if he changes his story.
/r/MensRights11/09/11 06:22 AM
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Fair enough. It is very difficult to tell at the time where the line is between drunk and black out drunk, it is different for different people, and dfferent in every situation. Basically, its good advice not to have drunken sex with anyone you don't already know fairly well.
/r/MensRights10/09/11 02:58 PM
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But much like with rape, no matter what we do we will never completely eliminate it, so innocent until proven guilty still must always reign supreme.
/r/MensRights10/09/11 02:52 PM
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You keep assuming that by black out drunk I mean passed out. When someone is black out drunk, that doesn't necessarily mean they are passed out. It means they might be awake and active but not forming memories. That is very common to occur when someone blacks out from alcohol, and that period of time can come with increased sex drive and willingness to consent to sex. It is never ok to have sex with someone who is unconscious.
/r/MensRights09/09/11 05:33 PM
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I have not downvoted you in this thread, if you care. I appreciate it. Not that I care about my karma, but it means you are willing to listen to what I have to say at least. I upvoted your comment. If this is the case, then there is a powerful rape culture that essentially lets men have sex with questionable consent. The whole point of mens rea is that they can't question the consent themselves or they have guilty mind. Men should only have sex with enthusiastic, obvious consent, so that they ca…
/r/MensRights09/09/11 04:49 PM
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I already explained it with the bank car repo analogy. Its not that you don't think you did anything illegal, its that you think that what you were doing was legal given our laws. Its that you broke the law (by stealing the car) but you didn't know you would be breaking the law because you thought you had the right to repo it. Same with rape, you think you are not breaking the law because the sex is consensual, but then she calls rape on it and says it wasn't consensual so you broke the law just…
/r/MensRights09/09/11 04:43 PM
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If the victim can prove it was not consensual, then yes. Otherwise, it could have been consensual sex. And if the accused believes it was consensual then they are not guilty. My point is the burden of proving that it was not consensual lies with the accuser.
/r/MensRights09/09/11 02:42 PM
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if you can prove they unknowingly did it. No, not if they unknowingly did it, if they did it without a guilty mind. A good example I came up with is if the bank repo guys come and repo a car, but the bank messed up the paperwork and they get the wrong car. They are not guilty of grand theft auto for stealing that car, because they thought they had the right to do it. The same goes with rape, if you think you have consent, then it isn't rape. You can't rape someone who is unconscious and say that…
/r/MensRights09/09/11 02:01 PM
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I know exactly what mens rea means, if he honestly and reasonably thinks she consented (perhaps because she did) then he is not guilty of rape. There is no lesser form of rape, if he thought it was consensual then there is no mens rea. If he thought she was enjoying herself and he meant no harm, then he is not guilty.
/r/MensRights09/09/11 01:45 PM
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Except that the consequences of being a false rape accuser are much smaller than the consequences of beng a rapist.
/r/MensRights09/09/11 01:35 PM
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What do you think it means?
/r/MensRights09/09/11 01:19 PM
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I understand mens rea fine, I expressed that ignorance is no defence, but honestly believing that she consented is a defence. Of course he could be lying, I addressed that. She could be lying too, but you don't care what the consequences of a false rape accusation can be. The point is innocent until proven guilty, the burden of proof is on her to prove she didn't consent. I am aware of how difficult it is to bring a case against a rapist, but that dosnt mean we shouldn't protect the innocent.
/r/MensRights09/09/11 12:18 AM
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Here is my logic: If the accused says that the accuser consented to the sex and that it was not rape, then by definition they do not have mens rea because they think that the sex was consensual, so they do not have a guilty mind. Obviously they could be lying, so their story should be checked out. However, if the accused admits that the accuser did not consent or was unconscious at the time of the sex act, then they have mens rea even if they think what they did was not rape. Ignorance of the de…
/r/MensRights08/09/11 09:50 PM
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I never said all rapists know they're rapists I said that fewer don't know they are rapists than feminists like to think. I think that many cases that feminists consider to be date rape are actually consensual sex and not rape at all. That isn't to say that date rape doesn't happen, and that some of the people who commit date rape don't realize they are rapists. I just think that many of the cases are actually false accusations, or cases of consent at the time, but regret or loss of memory in th…
/r/MensRights08/09/11 04:33 PM
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It isn't a "rape myth" it is a difference in the definition of rape between feminists and the law, and it stems from our "rape culture" which tends to believe the accuser without enough evidence. Just read about this Feminists want the standard of rape to be a preponderance of the evidence. They essentially believe it is rape if she says it's rape. That is wrong. Sure there are some guys who have actually committed rape, perhaps by having sex with someone while they were unconscious, who do not …
/r/MensRights08/09/11 04:16 PM
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That is relevant, but there is more in the video that was also relevant is all I meant. Specifically, more than just the violence stereotypes, there are also the sexual stereotypes. The fact that she feels entitled to grab his cock, despite his protests, is relevant to MR. She was trying to sexually assault him against his will, and then physically assaulted him when he tried to prevent the sexual assault. So more of this video is relevant than simply the fact that he didn't defend himself.
/r/MensRights08/09/11 01:23 AM
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And the fact that she tried to grab his cock, he pushed her away, she tried again, he pushed her away and told her not to, she went back for a third try, so he yelled at her, and then she attacked him. Feminism is what perpetuates the stereotypes that men are always seeking sex and should always be sexually available to women, and that men are stronger than women and therefore cannot be harmed by female physical abuse. The woman in this video (although it is fake of course) did what she did beca…
/r/MensRights07/09/11 09:36 PM
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Feminists think that the ability of men to beat women is a manifestation of male privilege, not men's rights. In the same way, this is a manifestation of female privilege. The feminism movement is what gives girls the idea that this sort of behavior is OK. They have been taught that men are stronger than women, and can't be harmed by physical abuse from a woman. They have been taught that men are always seeking sex, and are therefore always sexually available to women. They have been taught that…
/r/MensRights07/09/11 09:31 PM
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She was doing something the guy in the video didn't like, namely grabbing his cock. He tried to keep her from doing it a couple of times, told her to stop once, then resorted to yelling to let her know that it was not OK. Her response was to get violent and then still feel entitled to do whatever she wanted to him. The reason this is feminism is because feminism is the shield that allows women to think this sort of behavior is acceptable. Just like feminists say that "the patriarchy" and "rape c…
/r/MensRights07/09/11 09:26 PM
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I agree with you 100%. It is crazy to say one way or another that either she was or was not raped. I only bring up a hypothetical scenario where she might not have been raped, even if she is telling the truth. And of course she might be lying. I never said that she wasn't raped for sure, she indeed might have been, but without more information we cannot make a decision one way or another. I agree with you that her friends' and boyfriend's reactions are suspicious, because they probably had more …
/r/MensRights07/09/11 08:49 PM
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I wanted to link to this because it was actually a good post I generally agree with on r/feminism. My argument is just that if a guy doesn't know he is a rapist, it is probably because the girl consented, which means he isn't a rapist. She might not remember consenting, or she might regret the sex and be lying about the rape. The point is I don't think that there are a huge number of rapists running around out there who are completely unaware they have raped people. I think that those cases are …
/r/MensRights07/09/11 07:34 PM
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Ya, there was nothing to rebut. I guess what I could have said is that these quotes do not fully represent mens rights, and that similar crazy looking quotes can be found on feminist subreddits and be used to paint the whole subreddit and movement as crazy.
/r/MensRights06/09/11 10:38 PM
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As for substances, how is that any different then what we have now? The difference was in my example a society makes something which is currently legal and you enjoy illegal and starts policing it. Like if you really enjoy smoking a cigarette on walks through the park, and they make it illegal to smoke in the park (something plausible that they can indeed do), and set up cameras to catch you doing it, suddenly you are a criminal for something you don't consider immoral and don't think should be …
/r/MensRights06/09/11 08:39 PM
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So you are OK with police blanketing cities with cameras for use in crime detection and prevention, like London? How far are you willing to let it go, discarding your privacy and freedom for security? What if they make things illegal that you think shouldn't be illegal, like being a homosexual, or consuming a substance you enjoy like caffeine, alcohol, or tobacco?
/r/MensRights06/09/11 06:40 PM
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http://www.reddit.com/r/ShitRedditSays/comments/k5owo/get_back_on_your_meds_girl_there_is_not_one/ You're famous!
/r/MensRights06/09/11 05:18 PM
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Ok this is my new favorite acount. Way cooler than the real coontown.
/r/MensRights06/09/11 02:39 PM
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That is a meta subreddit for r/shitredditsays, which is the sub who downvote brigades us, lead by therealbarackobama. It has 1433 readers.
/r/MensRights05/09/11 10:01 PM
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http://www.reddit.com/r/ShitRedditSays/comments/k54vy/nearly_all_mras_seem_to_believe_in_equal/ The feminists are here to laugh at you behind your back. I think they think the concept of equal treatment and equal opportunity is a joke.
/r/MensRights05/09/11 02:38 PM
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He's 2k behind though so clearly he can't afford it, that's 8 months worth.
/r/MensRights02/09/11 04:16 PM
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So you agree with me that without more information, it can't be called rape. We can't go arrest him. That makes the title sensationalized, that is no "rape confession". That was really my main argument, it is not definitely rape.
/r/MensRights02/09/11 02:48 PM
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Ya seriously. Its likely the story isn't even true, but they are ready to have him arrested based on it.
/r/MensRights02/09/11 01:19 AM
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The point is there was no force or threat of force. He was persistent, but that is not a crime. She had options to get rid of him, she could have screamed, they were in a hotel, or she could have locked herself in her room and called security.
/r/MensRights02/09/11 01:16 AM
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Watch the video and see how you feel. Remeber, this was a story told at a comedy club to be funny, and is most likey fiction. He never said that she said it was rape, or felt raped. He didn't feed her alcohol or anything, and she undressed herself and told him it would be quick and dirty, and she even asked him to use a condom, which he did. Sure he is an asshole and a douchbag, I just don't think he is a rapist, based on his sory, even if it was true. And given that it is likly not true, he def…
/r/MensRights02/09/11 01:05 AM
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This has been posted in 2xc and in feminism and the people over there seem to think this is rape, even though she took her own clothes off and consented. There are various justifications for why they think it is rape, she was drunk, she told him to leave repeatedly, and he closed and locked the door behind him, trapping her (as far as I can tell they made up the detail about locking the door). In my mind, it is not rape as long as she consented, and wasn't forced, threatened, or intimidated into…
/r/MensRights01/09/11 09:15 PM
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Do you not think that? I may be mixing you up with the vast number of feminists on shitredditsays who believe that. If you don't think that then just say so. Seems like most of the people over there think that if she was drunk and says it was rape then it was rape, regardless of the circumstances. Especially if she says she was passed out.
/r/MensRights01/09/11 12:46 AM
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That you think men are always rapists if the girl says so and she was drunk.
/r/MensRights01/09/11 12:36 AM
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And having sex with a 20 y/o male babysitter would also be a dream come true for many 14 year old girls. Does that make it any less wrong?
/r/MensRights31/08/11 05:51 PM
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Different people are different. I have known a LOT of women who say that at 14 they were VERY attracted to 20+ year old men, and would do nearly anything to fuck one. That is a common thing to want for BOTH genders, and not everyone of either gender wants that.
/r/MensRights31/08/11 05:48 PM
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Its more like if a man has sex with a woman under the influence, it is rape if she says its rape. The reason they believe that is because they think that false rape claims are either nonexistant or so rare as to be not worth mentioning. They are not concerned about the consequences of a false rape claim because they don't think it could ever happen to them. They also don't recognize that a person can have consensual sex under the influence of alcohol and have no memory or very fuzzy memory of th…
/r/MensRights31/08/11 05:42 PM
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Bull shit. I have argued before. You think that if two people get drunk and have consensual sex, and the woman calls it rape in the morning, that she was raped for sure because she was drunk and could not legally consent. That is the same thing most of r/shitredditsays believes. The point is if she consented at the time of the sex act, even if she was drunk, it is not rape, and she cannot revoke her consent later because she regretted or did not remember the encounter.
/r/MensRights31/08/11 05:38 PM
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You don't know that from this post. Since he said he doesn't believe anything she said, i'm guessing he got proof on the pregnancy, like actually saw her take a pregnancy test.
/r/MensRights31/08/11 05:20 PM
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They are pretty official about it. Therealbarackobama isn't hiding his views about mensrights. He appointed a few super feminist mods as well.
/r/MensRights31/08/11 05:10 PM
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You are furthering the goals of the conspiracy by attempting to discredit MRAs and thereby deny men rights. You support and harbor feminist viewpoints in your subreddit which demonize normal male sexuality and argue for radical legislation that would hinder the rights of men. That is all the proof I need that you are a member of that "conspiracy". Its not some club that gets together on Saturday nights with a secret handshake, it is just a global agenda to deny men rights and gain female suprema…
/r/MensRights30/08/11 04:51 AM
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Do you know what the definition of conspiracy is? Here, let me help: A civil conspiracy or collusion is an agreement between two or more parties to deprive a third party of legal rights or deceive a third party to obtain an illegal objective.[1] A conspiracy may also refer to a group of people who make an agreement to form a partnership in which each member becomes the agent or partner of every other member and engage in planning or agreeing to commit some act. It is not necessary that the consp…
/r/MensRights29/08/11 09:14 PM
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That's not how it feels like when I read r/stupidshitredditsays, seems like there is a feminist conspiracy, at least on reddit, to discredit MRAs.
/r/MensRights29/08/11 08:19 PM
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Ya this was the first x-post to my knowledge. I'm one of those upvotes, but still, they were positive before I even got there. Weird. Also notice that standard feminist trolls aren't commenting there, like teefs, 1338h4x, barbadosslim, and Amrosorma. Even therealbarackobama hasn't come out with his opinion because he is too afraid of losing his Internet points. From his comment: I don't want to go negative, so ill leave it at that. http://www.reddit.com/r/ShitRedditSays/comments/jxgwl/whacked_ou…
/r/MensRights29/08/11 06:44 PM
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Good point.
/r/MensRights26/08/11 08:26 PM
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I'm just fishing for more material to post to r/stupidshitredditsays
/r/MensRights26/08/11 05:12 AM
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I don't think you'll like the popularity you get from men's rights. They may subscribe, like I did, boosting your numbers, but its only to downvote and argue with you.
/r/MensRights26/08/11 04:21 AM
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http://www.reddit.com/r/ShitRedditSays/comments/jukf9/you_own_a_vagina_with_all_the_associated/ Squibbling cross posted this to r/shitredditsays
/r/MensRights26/08/11 12:06 AM
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I think its OK for anyone to photograph anyone in a public place. You have no reasonable expectation of privacy if you are in public. you cannot prevent people from taking your picture. Meanwhile, this also goes for women. The fact that this site doesn't allow pictures of women is definitely sexist, and stupid. the web site itself is fine, but they should surely allow images of women.
/r/MensRights25/08/11 06:56 PM
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Help yourself. I have had enough of direct discussions with him. If he responds to one of my posts, I will reply, but other than that, I really have no reason to keep talking to someone as misandrous as him. And even if he does answer that it would be rape, there are plenty of other feminists out there who say guys cannot be raped, regardless of the circumstances. In fact in some states of the US rape is defined as a crime perpetrated by men against women.
/r/MensRights25/08/11 06:26 PM
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If he had a button up shirt with the top few buttons undone and his chest hair visible it might have made coworkers uncomfortable, and been more analogous.
/r/MensRights25/08/11 05:29 PM
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They just think the exact opposite of that, they will just keep quoting you back but switch things and think its funny. Like this: Whereas MRAs can't help but perpetuate their hatred, feminists are the type of people who can't help but stand up against injustice. Some of them are really pretty stupid, and this one seems that type.
/r/MensRights25/08/11 04:56 AM
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Ya i had a similar thing where some things where not showing up. I can see all 5 of the ones I posted so far. What I did to find them is go to the subreddit and log out, then you see them all.
/r/MensRights25/08/11 02:53 AM
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The problem comes when someone makes a false rape claim. The feminists will always believe the accuser (or actually, the woman, because in cases of rape claims against a woman they never take the man's side even if he is the victim). The problem is in cases of an accusation of this magnitude, it is innocent until proven guilty. They also think the guy raped the girl if two drunk people have sex, because drunk women cannot give consent, even if they give you consent it is invalid because they are…
/r/MensRights25/08/11 02:12 AM
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the only posts I've removed so far were the ones you recommended I remove because it made it look like another circlejerk. I prefer to remove nothing, because I don't believe in censorship, but when people are just being silly and not contributing to what the subreddit is designed for, then I suppose I have to filter out the spam and useless posts to keep it clean and readable.
/r/MensRights25/08/11 02:02 AM
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He is serious though. Maybe not about .065 BAC, but he believes there is some level at which a woman cannot consent, and that if you accept her (invalid) consent when she is in that state, you are a rapist, even if you are also drunk. I have had many discussions with this person and others on that subreddit about this. And the sexist part about it is that it doesn't go the other way. If a stone cold sober chick has sex with a guy who is blackout drunk, she isn't guilty of rape, he just "got luck…
/r/MensRights25/08/11 01:54 AM
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Also, this The obvious solution is to just not have sex while drunk. But only if you are a man. Women should be able to do whatever they want, and call it rape if they want. And it is rape if they were drunk and they call it rape, by definition, even if they consented. /s These people completely discount regret. Some women do indeed make false rape accusation based on regretting a consensual sexual encounter they had while drunk. If both people were drunk and both people consented, it is not rap…
/r/MensRights25/08/11 12:07 AM
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So you are bitching at me about 7 hours after I created this subreddit that I havn't posted any more quotes? And I'm supposed to do that exactly how while I am asleep? I don't want to dig too deep into archives, I wanted stuff that all happened in the last few days. I'll post more as I see them.
/r/MensRights24/08/11 05:24 PM
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If yo think this is abnormal for feminists looks at r/shitreddisays. If the girl is drunk and says she was raped, she was raped. They have changed the definition of "raped" to "accused someone of rape". Even if the girl admits she doesn't remember the act and the guy was drunk and laims it was consensual she was raped in the mind of a feminist, cause she said so.
/r/MensRights23/08/11 11:59 PM
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It was talking about the thing we are discussing in this thread, which is being attracted to women and their bodies and being called a pervert for it. He was simply saying that it should be expected for men to react when presented with a sexy woman, whether that reaction is the get an erection, ask them out for coffee, or anything else that is not illegal. He never said anything about rape or any illegal actions, nor did he try to "apologize" for any rape. Trying to protect the reputation of men…
/r/MensRights22/08/11 07:30 PM
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This is why you are a misandrous man-hater. You are the first person in this thread to say th word rape. The comment you are resonding to said "act". There are lots of ways to act when confronted with a sexy wman, and rape isn't the one most guys jump to. Asking them out perhap, fantasizing about them perhaps, all of which might make one a pervert, which is what we were discussing. He never said how a woman dresses excuses rape, he never mentioned rape at all. You are arguin agaisnt a straw ma, …
/r/MensRights22/08/11 03:42 PM
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DoctorMindBeam is leaving r/communityplans by the way. I could make this a long rant, but I'm going to keep it short and sweet. This is my public resignation from the stillborn "masculism" project. Yes, stillborn, because however this baby emerges from its diseased womb, it's become something very different than it was supposed to be. The original idea is dead. When "godlessaltruist" and I initially launched communityplans, it was part of the planning stages of r/masculism, a reddit that I contr…
/r/MensRights18/08/11 05:57 PM
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That is very suspiscious. I will not participate, and neither will any real mras if that is the case. We can troll the hell out of it. And I'm not "primarily" interested in mainstream politics, but it is one of my interests. I am also very interested in combating the veiws of feminism which are anti male and the people on reddit who like to bash mens rights. If you've been watching shitredditsays you would see I have become quite notorious over there as a "rape apologist" and "pedophile defender…
/r/MensRights18/08/11 02:25 PM
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This is not godlessaltruist, to be fair.
/r/MensRights18/08/11 04:42 AM
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I think the idea is that they are closer like handicapped spaces, so the women don't have to walk as far.
/r/MensRights17/08/11 07:28 PM
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I did, immediately upon reading that comment. To my dismay, none from r/twox are listed. It is still possible that it was posted to twox, just that it has a different URL, so doesn't show up in the other discussions tab, which is why I asked for a link. I spent a little time looking at the last day of posts to twox and couldn't find it.
/r/MensRights16/08/11 09:58 PM
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Oh, I didn't do it for his benefit. I cross posted his comment to r/shitredditsays and wanted to get him to say more stupid crap. http://www.reddit.com/r/ShitRedditSays/comments/jkl7w/male_rape_lol_this_place_seems_like_a_bunch_of/ I know I might have slightly encouraged him, but he is a prolific enough troll that I don't think lack of encouragement would stop him, nor do I think the encouragement I gave will greatly accelerate his trolling. I also think that unlike some trolls, this one is ideo…
/r/MensRights16/08/11 09:39 PM
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Because you know that the woman is not on birth control and you don't want to have a child which you will have to support but not get custody of, likely ruining the next 18 years of your life while you struggle to make your payments and cannot afford things like a college education or saving up for a down payment on a house. Or perhaps the male rape victim is a homosexual and doesn't like having sex with women. Then the rape could be just as terrible for him as if you were raped by the opposite …
/r/MensRights16/08/11 05:50 PM
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Yes, the problem is that the male victim should have custody, if he wants it, and the female rapist should have to pay child support if she is capable. And if the man doesn't want to keep the child, it should be put up for adoption and taken care of by the state. The problem in this case is that the charges were never pressed, so she is not a convicted rapist. I think his testimony that he was raped should get him out of the child support obligations and give him priority over custody, but if he…
/r/MensRights16/08/11 05:37 PM
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Link plz! I cant find it.
/r/MensRights16/08/11 05:12 PM
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The point is that female rape victims don't have to be financially responsible to a male rapist who gets to raise their child. That is what happens to male rape victims. Also, female rape victims do get child support from their rapist, if he is capable of providing it, or can get support from the state. Or they can give the child up for adoption. A male rape victim who doesn't have custody has none of these options, the female rapist is raising his child AND he has to pay for it.
/r/MensRights16/08/11 05:08 PM
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Wow... dismissing male rape, dismissing MRAs, and and displaying homophobia in one comment this short is impressive.
/r/MensRights16/08/11 04:25 PM
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Just so you know, not everyone involved with r/masculism is a proponent of nswatm, and no one that I have seen so far has jumped up to defend manboobz. They are trying very hard over there to be accepted by men's rights, and want it to be an open community with no censorship, with 100% MRA mods, no feminists. They are willing to denounce manboobz, not only in the subreddit, but to try to convince nswatm to distance themselves from him as well. They DO NOT support againstmensrights, and in fact, …
/r/MensRights16/08/11 01:26 AM
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Right, he said he ISN'T LINKING TO THE ORIGINAL, TO AVOID ACCUSATIONS OF DOWNVOTE BRIGADES. How hard is that to understand?
/r/MensRights15/08/11 04:51 PM
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Instead, I feel like infants ear lobes, noses, and pinky fingers should be cut off at birth. I will make sure to have those procedures performed on my infant in the hospital. Oh wait, except I can't, because no doctor would do that, since it is MUTILATION AND ABUSE. We cannot chop parts off of our perfectly normal healthy child without good reason. Mutilation or maiming is an act of physical injury that degrades the appearance or function of any living body, usually without causing death.
/r/MensRights15/08/11 02:57 PM
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You cannot cut off healthy, normal tissue that all people have. A tail is abnormal, and so can be surgicaly removed. In the same way, someone with a medical condition which required circumcision could still have the procedure done to them. It just shouldn't be done to healthy, normal infants, that is the difference.
/r/MensRights15/08/11 02:34 PM
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You don't have to be able to see dick/balls to stare at the crotch. We can't see anything on women in that region either but we still like to look.
/r/MensRights13/08/11 09:30 PM
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You are almost laughably full of shit. I say almost, because its not funny since it is so sad. I think you are pretty ignorant of the real causes that men's rights fights for. You are one of those people who doesn't understand what "true gender equality" is. When all you do is "correct" things so that women always have the upper hand, you are not fighting for gender equality. Women have a whole lot of privilege in our society, moreso than men in a LOT of ways. There is a lot of institutionalized…
/r/MensRights13/08/11 04:50 AM
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I never said "that a young teenager can knowingly consent to sexual relations". I am well aware that in our society they cannot legally consent to sex. In other societies however it has been the norm to allow sexual consent at the age of 14. Those societies didn't fall apart. I'm not going to act on my fantasies, both because I am aware that our society considers it wrong, and because I am simply not interested in having sexual relations with a minor. The fantasy is far more enjoyable than I ima…
/r/MensRights12/08/11 06:09 PM
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if there were not laws in place to prevent you from having sex with them you would do so. If there were no laws in place to prevent it, it would be legal and accepted by society. There have been many societies in the past which have people marry at the age of 14. Those societies didn't instantly fall apart because of that practice. I cannot say what I would do in such a society, because I would be a very different person if I live in such a society. If we were to make the age of consent in this …
/r/MensRights12/08/11 05:46 PM
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wow you sure are changing my views a lot. I never defended statutory rape, or rape of any kind. Thoughts do not equal rape.
/r/MensRights12/08/11 03:52 PM
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And you are one of the most pathetic I've seen.
/r/MensRights12/08/11 12:17 PM
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Except that I don't think there is anything sexist about sexualizing people. It is perfectly normal and everyone does it to people they find attractive. Nothing wrong with objectification in my opinion, of either gender by either gender, especially of images of people and not actual people.
/r/MensRights12/08/11 11:37 AM
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This comment was so good even I had to upvote it. It does bother me that people use the word "rape" as interchangeable with "statetory rape" when they have very different connotations. My fantasy involves only consensual intercourse.
/r/MensRights11/08/11 11:27 PM
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Its simple really. If you call it morally reprehensible to sexualize people who might be of legal age, then people will consider themselves morally bankrupt and dirty for doing so if it then turns out the person was not of legal age. That causes cognitive dissonance and can lead to all sorts of unsavory outcomes for society. Meanwhile, I don't think it is particularly damaging to call the sexualization of prepubescent individuals morally reprehensible. there's plenty of room for wishful thinking…
/r/MensRights11/08/11 11:25 PM
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As a medical diagnosis, pedophilia (or paedophilia) is defined as a psychiatric disorder in adults or late adolescents (persons age 16 or older) typically characterized by a primary or exclusive sexual interest in prepubescent children (generally age 13 years or younger, though onset of puberty may vary). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedophilia I am not at all interested in prepubescent children. I am only interested in them once they reach puberty. Ephebophilia is the sexual preference of adult…
/r/MensRights11/08/11 11:03 PM
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Well I appreciate the discussion. I think we have just about exhausted our debate. We are just going to have to agree to disagree I suppose. I think that thoughts do not cause harm and shouldn't be considered morally reprehensible, and I will never be able to convince you of that. You think my fantasies are morally reprehensible, and you will never be able to convince me of that. So I guess we have to go our separate ways.
/r/MensRights11/08/11 10:41 PM
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Yes, I do believe it is wrong to fantasize about raping somebody. What about fantasizing about being raped? That is probably just as common, if not more so. My girlfriend has fantasized about being raped, and I have fantasized about rape. We have had bondage sex, and she constantly wants me to be rougher than I am naturally, since that is part of her fantasy but not mine. Do you really see anything wrong with that behavior? That we can try 14 year olds as adults is a testament to the fallibility…
/r/MensRights11/08/11 10:26 PM
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Do you think there is a problem with rape fantasies? Many men AND women have rape fantasies, and often act on them consensually with a partner. Is that morally bankrupt as well? It is wrong to commit rape, but it is not wrong to think about it or fantasize about it. In any case, I think the age of consent should be 14. If we can try 14 year olds as adults in murder cases then clearly they know enough to be responsible for their own behavior.
/r/MensRights11/08/11 10:09 PM
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Perhaps for me it is enough to just look and fantasize and I will never have to act on those thoughts in order for my desires to be satisfied. Perhaps I will some day want to have sexual relations with a legal 18 y/o who looks to be younger. Perhaps I want to fantasize about someone who is not yet legal, and then wait until they are legal and then have intercourse with them to fulfil my fantasy. All of those are legal ways to satisfy ephebophilia. Do you have a problem with r/jailbait or the peo…
/r/MensRights11/08/11 10:06 PM
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The person is still fair game for sexual thoughts and fantasies regardless of age. There is nothing wrong with that. We should not endevor to make people feel bad about thinking sexual thoughts about anyone. When you associate "wrongness" and feeling bad with your sexual urges, that is when dangerous sexual behavior can start. If something which should be natural and normal feels "wrong" and possibly illegal or at least morally reprehensible, then it is easier to make a stretch to actions which …
/r/MensRights11/08/11 09:42 PM
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The proper term is ephebophile. I only think sexual thoughts about girls who look like they could possibly be over the legal age of consent, or are close to it. Age 14+. This girl in this image looks like she could easily be 18, that makes her "fair game" for fantasies, regardless of her outfit. I would never act on any of these fantasies and knowingly have sex with a minor, that would be against the law.
/r/MensRights11/08/11 09:37 PM
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Well, I still don't see anything ethically wrong with thinking sexual thoughts about someone you consider to be attractive, regardless of that individual's age, as long as the individual looks like they could be of the age of consent. I am not arguing that we should objectify children under the age of 10 or anything like that. That is morally objectionable in my mind. But if the image looks like the person could be of legal age, then there is nothing wrong with it. There is something ethically w…
/r/MensRights11/08/11 09:32 PM
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define "sexually objectify" in the way you're using it in this sentence To think or fantasize about the person in a purely sexual, perhaps but not necessarily dehumanizing way. it's possible to believe that something ought not be prosecuted and still find it reprehensible, u know. If most of the society found it morally reprehensible, we would be liable to make a law about it. Our criminal code is essentially all about what we as society find morally reprehensible, things such as child porn, mur…
/r/MensRights11/08/11 09:23 PM
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Right, that is also my argument. That the age is irrelevant, if the image of the person looks attractive to you, it is fair game for any thought and fantasies you want. Thoughts and fantasies are never morally reprehensible. If you consider them to be morally reprehensible, then we could theoretically pass a law criminalizing it. Much of our criminal code revolves around what society considers to be morally reprehensible.
/r/MensRights11/08/11 08:58 PM
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There is a line between actions and thoughts. I can think about murdering people, that is not illegal, but if I actually do it then I am breaking the law. To ask that no one ever think sexual thoughts about people who are under the age of consent (which varies from jurisdiction to jurisdiction) is unreasonable. It is too difficult to tell the age of an individual from their image. That is why I say it is perfectly acceptable to think sexual thoughts about anyone who looks attractive to you. It m…
/r/MensRights11/08/11 08:44 PM
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I've always had a problem with the word "creepy" in this context. It is incredibly subjective, like the whole elevator fiasco where the guy was "creepy". Generally, someone is creepy only when a women doesn't want their advance, and otherwise not creepy. "Creepy" is how people define something that is morally objectionable to them if they cannot explain why it is morally objectionable. If people had a true explanation for why it is morally objectionable, they would state that explanation rather …
/r/MensRights11/08/11 08:27 PM
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I think that it is ok to sexually objectify anyone who looks attractive to you. There is no law against thoughts. Her outfit is irrelevant. Women sexually objectify men as much or more than men do it to women, I cited a study which shows that. I just don't think that sexualizing her based on this image is a bad thing. You cannot tell that she is under the age of 18 from that image. Therefore I have a problem with all the people who freak about about it, and say things like: This comment "she cho…
/r/MensRights11/08/11 08:16 PM
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Right I took it to mean sexualize. Look at, fantasize about, etc. That is where my objection comes from. I do not think thoughts should ever be criminalized. As long as you do not knowingly have sex with a minor, no crime has been committed.
/r/MensRights11/08/11 08:07 PM
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Context is important. "fair game" in that sentence was referring to fair game to be sexualized, or to be looked at in a sexual manner. It was not a reference to sex, nor rape, it was not meant that she would be "fair game" to be raped based on her outfit. My opinion is simply that everyone is fair game to be sexualized. It is never against the law to look at someone and think about them in a sexual manner. It is sometimes against the law to act on those desires and thoughts, but that is a differ…
/r/MensRights11/08/11 08:02 PM
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Does this image qualify as "looking at little girls" in your mind? http://i.imgur.com/hlMeE.jpg That is the image in question. The age of the person is not obvious in my opinion. She could easily be legal, judging only from that image. If I am supposed to check ID before thinking sexual thoughts about a person, then we are living in a world of thought police. The people who think this is disgusting are more disgusted by the sexualization of women in general, not just that of underage girls. The …
/r/MensRights11/08/11 06:33 PM
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They seem to think looking at someone in a sexual manner is the same as raping them. I personally would hate to live in a society where mere looks and thoughts can get one in trouble with the law. Anyway, i've seen a study which shows that men actually spend less time looking at the genitals of women than women spend looking at the genitals of men. http://www.kinseyinstitute.org/publications/PDF/Rupp_HB_2007.pdf So who is really objectifying whom?
/r/MensRights11/08/11 05:30 PM
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I have read it before, and just read it over again. That is an important perspective. I'm not against the "rapists don't rape" strategy as you described it. It is important to educate people that sexism is never ok. It rests in a culture which is willing to laugh at rape jokes, or among guys who will high-five each other for “scoring” with a drunk woman. If men are able to rationalize that “it’s not really rape” and “this is how everybody gets laid” then this means that not enough people have ch…
/r/MensRights09/08/11 09:35 PM
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Yes I understand that. However, as the sort of person who does sometimes attend feminist rallies myself, I can see myself getting offended if that was being waved in my direction. It seems like a sign like that would only be used in an accusatory fashion, like every man is either a rapist or a victim blamer and needs to be told that is the wrong thing to do.
/r/MensRights09/08/11 02:23 AM
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Good way of putting it. If this was simply a list of things which can constitute rape but which some people don't see as rape, then that might be useful information. However, telling people not to assault people they are alone with in elevators is not useful information, and is downright insulting to anyone who wouldn't want to assault someone in an elevator.
/r/MensRights09/08/11 02:04 AM
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Sorry, but telling people not to sexually assault people isn't going to help. For starters, if they don't realize it is rape, or if they have justified it to themselves in such a way that it is not rape in their mind, then telling them not to rape clearly will have no effect. That would be no different from you telling any other non-rapist not to rape, or really anyone to do something that they themselves don't think they have ever done. You can bombard them all you want with the message that ra…
/r/MensRights09/08/11 01:39 AM
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If men like a particular brand of feminism, it means it is not working That's one of my favourite parts. Their goal is very specifically confrontational. They consider themselves unsuccessful unless they are pissing off men. Also, look at the very reasonable comment by Yo_Soy_Candide then look at QueerCoup coming in to take a crap on it. r/anarchism makes me so sad... Edit: HAHA looks like I hit a nerve, skobrin just banned me from posting to r/anarchism and r/metanarchism And all for saying "So…
/r/MensRights08/08/11 10:22 PM
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just frontpaged that!
/r/MensRights04/08/11 06:45 PM
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No! It is not important for people to give a clear lack of consent! It is important to educate people that they shouldn't have sex with people without clear consent! You missed something. I was referencing a situation where the woman seemed to be into or was into it, and then at some point decided she didn't want to go all the way. The problem with not giving clear lack of consent is you can give consent 50 times, and only have to take it away once. If a woman is all into you for most of the eve…
/r/MensRights04/08/11 05:46 PM
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I'm with you that too many people blame the victim for wearing revealing clothing, for drinking, for not resisting, or for not being clear enough with lack of consent. Maintaining your ability to defend yourself is more the direction i'm going, and I find victim blame disgusting, and argue against it. As far as the people who rape who don't realize what they did is rape, I don't see how this sign would have any impact on them. There was that study that showed 6% of men will admit to rape if the …
/r/MensRights04/08/11 05:06 PM
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I will only acknowledge that this message is not aimed at rapists. It will have no impact on anyone willing to commit date rape despite the laws and punishments for that crime. Being told not to do it isn't going to stop them if the law didn't.
/r/MensRights04/08/11 04:17 PM
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What you just said was spoken like an ignorant ass who obviously has never been through something as tough as sexual assault. I'll give you that. My point really is just that it is counter productive and insulting, and so is probably not the way the movement should be going. I'm all for anti-victim blaming messages on signs, victim blame is a huge problem, and disgusts me. Like when those Texas lawmakers tried to blame the 13 y/o who was gang raped, saying that she dressed like a slut and was as…
/r/MensRights04/08/11 01:50 AM
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Saying that there might be something they could do to make themselves safer is NOT the same as saying they are "at fault". Just because I have suggestions that might have prevented the situation doesn't mean I am blaming the victim. The rapist is always at fault, 100%. That doesn't mean that the victim can't do anything to help themselves not be a victim. That is the only thing I am arguing against, people use this poster and ones like it to argue that women should be able to do whatever they wa…
/r/MensRights03/08/11 08:36 PM
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Its not about "personal responsibility" it is about things that the victim can do to reduce their chances of rape, and to protect themselves. I do it not in order to blame the victim, of course in the eyes of the law only the rapist should be to blame, i do it in order to help the victim prevent future rapes. And yes, I do the exact same thing with other violent crimes. When my friend was mugged by 4 guys at knife point, I suggested he start carrying a gun. That is not to say it is his fault he …
/r/MensRights03/08/11 06:28 PM
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If you know specific behavior will increase your risk, and you engage in that behavior anyway, you should be prepared to accept some responsibility for what happens to you. Yes you are partly to blame for losing your precious orbs. You could have also carried a gun with you on your 7-11 coke acquisition adventure, and shot the hulking woman beast dead when she tried to extract your man lumps. Otherwise, you could have bought a 12 pack of coke the previous day and had it in your fridge, to not ha…
/r/MensRights03/08/11 06:16 PM
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The point is to shame men and empower women to engage in risky behavior. Because its your right to get drunk while scantily clad and walk 20 blocks at night through a bad part of town.
/r/MensRights03/08/11 05:33 PM
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What you said here is exactly one of my biggest problems with the sign. It tells women they don't need to do anything to minimize their risk. That is bull shit. The person with the most power to prevent a rape, other than the perpetrator, is the VICTIM. This sign is not going to have any impact on the rapist, he will do it anyway. The impact this will have is to prevent the victim from defending herself and minimizing her risk. Telling someone who was raped things they could have done to reduce …
/r/MensRights03/08/11 05:30 PM
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Sounds great, but too bad this sign is only for female victims. Can't you tell the gender of the drawn person holding it? If that was not there, then maybe I could believe you. And while women do sometimes rape other women, I hardly think that was in the minds of the creators of this sign. They simply made it gender neutral so that when men claim they are insulted by it people can retort, as you did, that it is gender neutral. Also, do you honestly think one single person is going to read this s…
/r/MensRights03/08/11 05:20 PM
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You didn't feel personally targeted by this list, but I did. If I had been at a slutwalk and some angry feminist was waving this sign in my direction I would have been VERY uncomfortable. I don't see how you couldn't see that this sort of argument is used by feminists to shame ALL men. As you yourself admitted, "Well, yeah. It'd be foolish to think a flyer will persuade a rapist not to rape. It seems to aim to change the public opinion that victims had some sort of responsibility in their own ra…
/r/MensRights03/08/11 05:07 PM
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Why do victims need to be reminded that being a victim is not their fault? It is both obvious and counterproductive. If there are things they could do to decrease their chances of being a victim again in the future, they should do those things and minimize risk, not have a "well its not my fault" attitude and engaging in dangerous behavior. It is a way for victims to absolve themselves of any responsibility for their own safety. I know some victims, perhaps even most, do everything right and wer…
/r/MensRights03/08/11 04:49 PM
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Yes I've made this type of argument before. The problem is people have a hard time seeing things from another perspective, especially when they personaly have been wronged and blame th other side. I say this same argument can be used for democrats and republicans. Wouldn't it be better if we could see things from the other side's perspective and work together for what is best for this country, taking both sides' views into account? Yes it would be better, but as a group we are not capable of tha…
/r/MensRights03/08/11 02:40 PM
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You cannot avoid rapists if you think that every potential individual is a potential rapist. You would have to live up in the mountains and never see another human being. You are willing to generalize that all priests might be scary because some of them are rapists, its not a big stretch from there to go to all men are scary because some of them are rapists. Why not just target the whole male gender and stay away from those, think of all the rapists you might avoid!
/r/MensRights03/08/11 01:53 AM
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That is not what anyone is advocating. But if you spend a lot of time driving near bars at 2 am your likelihood of being hit by a drunk driver increases. There is still no reason to blame you if you are hit by a drunk driver, but there is behaviour which increases the chance of that happening. If you are engaging in dangerous behavior and something happens, it is still not entirely your fault, but maybe you should have been doing some reasonable common sense things to minimize your risk.
/r/MensRights03/08/11 12:14 AM
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Of course the cause of rape is rapists, but that doesn't mean there arn't things that people can do to decrease their likelihood of being assaulted. All I'm saying is that this minimalizes the role the people have in their own self defence, and marginalizes and insults people who would otherwise be part of the cause.
/r/MensRights03/08/11 12:11 AM
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Well said.
/r/MensRights02/08/11 09:53 PM
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And that is why it is appalling.
/r/MensRights02/08/11 09:41 PM
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Ya I know, i figured I'd pass it along. I have not raped 3 people i've encountered in the past 5 minutes, thanks to this reminder!
/r/MensRights02/08/11 09:18 PM
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This is ridiculously condescending... It implies that everyone (men and women, because no gender is mentioned, although we all know they are mainly targeting men with that) is actually a potential rapist. The one I hate the most is #9 "carry a whistle". Implying that someone cannot accidentally rape someone else is foolish. The sarcastic quotes are silly. There are many cases of accidental rape, consent is not always a black and white situation, and statutory rape can be committed without the "r…
/r/MensRights02/08/11 09:13 PM
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http://i.imgur.com/CNy9J.jpg
/r/MensRights29/07/11 05:49 PM
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http://www.thatsfit.com/2009/06/10/man-challenges-ladies-only-gym/
/r/MensRights28/07/11 05:32 PM
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NO, BATMAN BEGINS IS THE GREATEST MOVIE OF ALL TIME!!!
/r/MensRights26/07/11 09:25 PM
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Most libertarians I know still support bans on child abuse and mutilation, which is what this is. Any libertarian who doesn't support a ban on male circumcision should also be arguing for a repeal of the FGM law in the US, otherwise they are sexist and racist.
/r/MensRights26/07/11 05:48 PM
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Even if you are not convicted and don't go to jail your life is still ruined, that's the worst part. You still lose your job, your friends, and most likely your ability to get another job, hell even your familly and girlfriend might desert you.
/r/MensRights23/07/11 02:27 PM
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Because we don't censor like the feminist subreddits. We like to be better than them. We have the ability to ignore things we do not like, and don't feel the need to ban everyone who posts something which offends the mods.
/r/MensRights22/07/11 10:08 PM
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No, I think we have all already made it clear no one has excluded women from moderating r/mensrights, there just happen to be no women moderators, which is hardly surprising considering there are only 2 mods. dilmo22 was being sarcastic, and making a funny joke with his comment "Of course I am. Women should be in the kitchen. Why do you ask?"
/r/MensRights22/07/11 10:06 PM
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There is no reason to believe that women are not also sometimes repeated victims, which lowers the number of women who are raped. If you are going to bring up the fact that men will repeat rape, then I will bring up that women are also often repeatedly raped. Victims sometimes make themselves victims over and over, and put themselves in those situations. Also, even if you assume a 90% under-reporting figure, you still can't account for the discrepancy between rapes reported and the 20% figure. E…
/r/MensRights22/07/11 04:51 PM
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Not what I said. I can make sense of them, and they are wrong. They think morals are absolute, and that is where they are wrong. Killing can be right, for the right reasons.
/r/MensRights21/07/11 07:19 PM
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All debate against abortion relies on moral value judgements which make no sense. The suffering of humanity as a whole is higher if abortion is illegal, with women getting back alley abortions with potentially life threatening consequences. It is nonsensical to argue that by preventing the death of the fetus you are being "moral". Anything which increases the suffering of humanity is not moral, especially when it also serves to remove the rights of a group of people to preside over what happens …
/r/MensRights21/07/11 07:12 PM
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Men's Rights implies supporting Women's Rights, and supporting women's rights implies pro-choice. Because access to safe and legal abortions is required for a safe and healthy society.
/r/MensRights21/07/11 04:28 PM
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Because its the right thing to do. Access to safe and legal abortions is required for the safe and healthy operation of society.
/r/MensRights21/07/11 04:24 PM
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First off asswipe, fuck you for this comment. I'm circumcised, and i'm not a whole person, and neither are you, but this teenager did not imply that you are not whole. I read the whole thing twice, and didn't see anywhere that he said circumcised people are not whole. Even if he had said it, who cares?!?!? I'll say it right now, circumcised people are NOT whole, they are missing a piece of their body, they are no more whole than someone who had their ears or nose chopped off at birth. Would you …
/r/MensRights19/07/11 10:33 PM
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Upload it to liveleak
/r/MensRights19/07/11 06:21 PM
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http://www.amptoons.com/blog/the-male-privilege-checklist/ Now before you go read those and complain about all the ways that men have to deal with similar issues, I know. Here is a comment where I found this article to begin with, and I went through the first 10 talking about why they are also a problem for men. http://www.reddit.com/r/Feminism/comments/ik720/shut_up_rich_boy_the_problem_with_privilege/c258hu4?context=3 The reason I am posting this here is so that you understand that there are p…
/r/MensRights18/07/11 10:24 PM
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I thought the article was hilarious, because it was probably unintentional that the entire thing could also be applied to female privilege. There are differences between the genders, like dogs and lizards, which lead to privilege. I thought it was hilarious how they were talking about how the privileged class can be completely unaware, or even in denial, about the privilege. That is how I see women about female privilege. I'm reminded about male privilege all the time, and keep it in my mind, bu…
/r/MensRights18/07/11 07:34 PM
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While that is true, the systematic oppression in this society seems to mostly be benefiting women and against men. I would claim that men are the oppressed class, not the oppressors.
/r/MensRights18/07/11 04:37 PM
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When you post a link to something you think is transphobic,what do you think happens? Everyone clicks through and downvotes it. I have posted in my posts to please not downvote, people downvote anyway. These are not intentional downvote brigades from either side, but that is the net effect, which is unavoidable. You run downvote brigades, we are going to make a post about it, which is going to get you downvote brigaded.
/r/MensRights18/07/11 02:36 PM
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Do you want to be the brave one to cross post it to r/feminism? That would fit perfectly with pointing it out to other women. I think they need to see it and if I post it, it might just start a flame war.
/r/MensRights17/07/11 03:46 PM
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Yes, I caught that from you edit, I'm well aware that is what you think, which means you are in complete denial about the privilege that women have in our society. Honestly that may not be the explicit goal of most feminists, but it is the end result of most feminist practices. The goal is just what I said, to make it so no women every has fewer opportunities than a man, and so that a man can never have the upper hand over a woman in any situation. That is not equality. Men and women are physica…
/r/MensRights16/07/11 02:27 PM
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Because of raging man-haters like you. I wont even give you the pleasure of being called a feminist, since you are not one. http://www.reddit.com/r/TransphobiaProject/comments/iohov/she_has_said_she_is_transgender_malefemale_so/c25g1hc?context=4 Massive Raging Arsehole As far as I can tell, it's a subreddit dominated by (but not made up exclusively of) guys who are doing their best to stop feminism from making things better for women than they are for men. A primary goal is stopping feminists fr…
/r/MensRights16/07/11 06:24 AM
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Tell that to the feminists. They are going to make us SO equal that women will be forever superior to men in every way. That is their definition of "equality", a women must be able to have every opportunity any man has and have every one of her differences from men compensated for externally so that the man can never have an upper hand in anything. I am well aware of the differences between men and women, and want true equality, which I would define as a fairness between the genders, not a homog…
/r/MensRights16/07/11 06:18 AM
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Negative, when I apologized I was sincere and had not started getting massive downvotes, and I do not care about downvotes anyway. Anyone who actually cares about karma is crazy. And what I apologized for was saying her transgender nature might be related to her man-hate, and speculation that she might have been abused. That is all that deserved apologizing for. She is a man hater, there is no question in my mind about that, so there is no need to apologize for that. Queercoop is a man hater too…
/r/MensRights16/07/11 03:52 AM
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I figure if you want to go on r/anarchism or any of those subreddits, make another account and pretend to be female. Even if you are saying the exact same things, the fact that they think you are female will make them far more receptive to your comments, and much less likely to ban you.
/r/MensRights15/07/11 11:23 PM
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http://www.reddit.com/r/Feminism/comments/ijejv/should_we_protect_accused_rapists/c25dxcd?context=1 Yep I apologized, she just didn't accept it. Not that I thought she would, given she is a man hater and I am a man.
/r/MensRights15/07/11 11:16 PM
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The ones in these subreddits are, but the point of this post is that not all anarchists are abusive arrogant feminists. Please don't be turned away from anarchism just because of these people giving it a bad name here on reddit.
/r/MensRights15/07/11 11:14 PM
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This is a great plan. Of course if they read this they will be super distrusting of new members. Gotta start working up a post history in 2xc and r/feminism
/r/MensRights15/07/11 11:09 PM
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How did they get your post in r/blackflag from showing up on the new page? I thought that was supposed to be a subreddit without mods. http://www.reddit.com/r/blackflag/comments/iqanw/banned_from_ranarchism_unable_to_defend_myself_in/
/r/MensRights15/07/11 10:48 PM
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You have a wonderful point. I think I will create another account and pretend to be female so that I can infiltrate their subreddits and argue for equality rather than female supremacy. They will probably be far more likely to not ban me and allow me to say what I want if they think I am female.
/r/MensRights15/07/11 10:44 PM
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Thank you for posting this here. This is very important info for all of us. I know I have been very put off by r/anarchism, especially when they showed solidarity for r/anarchafeminism and made their flag the AF flag. They changed it back finally, but still, FJ and her kind have been pissing me off for a long time now. It's good to know that not all anarchists think that anarchy is synonymous with radical feminism. Now, let me point out the two comments that pissed me off the most: http://www.re…
/r/MensRights15/07/11 08:44 PM
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That particular poster is trans female->male, so identifies as a he. Just letting you know, I know you didn't mess up the gender intentionally, just be careful, something like that can get you posted to r/transphobiaproject in a hurry, and then downvoted into oblivion, and possibly banned from several subreddits.
/r/MensRights15/07/11 08:34 PM
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Thanks for trying to back me up. This got even more out of control, when I posted this http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/iqeqp/break_the_cycle_of_hate/ talking about what I thought was a really good post about the cycle of hate and how we have to be strong and break it. The response to him posting that was to get banned. I thought that was worthwhile to learn from here, so I posted it, and their response was to delete the post of course. I also got labeled a transphobe for calling out …
/r/MensRights15/07/11 05:23 PM
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Ya seriously... I'm trying to get that comment which was deleted back. I'm stupid to have not taken a screenshot of it when I had the chance.
/r/MensRights15/07/11 02:46 PM
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Edit2: NihiloZero made a post about this, so now we can see what he said in that post that was deleted, and his explaination. This is very valuable information imo, because I know I typically feel very put off by the anarchy crowd of reddit, especially the misandry they show. http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/iqpw2/anarchists_support_mens_rights/ Edit: I got a couple downvotes, so I want to be clear my intent in posting this is not to generate a downvote brigade, please do not go downv…
/r/MensRights15/07/11 02:07 PM
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Well there are often conflicts between men's rights and feminism subreddits. This particular "elevator incident" is an issue on the wider internet, so it's not surprising it found its way here.
/r/MensRights15/07/11 04:18 AM
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Oh I agree with you. I did not post this here to generate a downvote brigade, but to generate discussion. I typically upvote people, even if I disagree with them, as long as they are reasonable and contribute to the discussion. If they are lying, using personal attacks or foul language, or make no contribution to the discussion then I will downvote.
/r/MensRights14/07/11 11:59 PM
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I'm not trying to prove anything to r/TransphobiaProject, i'm trying to prove to r/feminism that FJ and her kind from r/anrachafeminism are extreme feminists who hurt the feminist cause. r/feminism was initially very reasonable and logical about the post. Initially my downvote bomb on r/feminism was because someone posted it to r/anarchafeminism, letting FJ and her buddies know about it. http://www.reddit.com/r/anarchafeminism/comments/inw5u/should_we_protect_accused_rapists/
/r/MensRights14/07/11 11:21 PM
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The part that really gets me is this: Redditors post to reddit over and over and over about what a bitch watson is for exposing their toxic attitudes. Ya that's exactly why we think she shouldn't be labeling a man who asked her for coffee as a misogynist and a potential rapist. Because it exposes our toxic attitudes. Right, we are the ones with the toxic attitude.
/r/MensRights14/07/11 11:12 PM
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and they just eat it up over there on r/feminism
/r/MensRights14/07/11 11:10 PM
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That is indeed very big of you to keep the moral high ground. I'm not looking to demean the feminists who demeaned me. I'm just looking for some support and assistance in battling the large influx of feminists who attacked me. I cannot argue with them all on my own and retain any measure of reason or maturity, since they tick me off so much. That's why I'm hoping for more reasonable, level headed people who were not initially involved in the situation to comment about it, like you.
/r/MensRights14/07/11 11:00 PM
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Did you guys see r/feminism post their reaction to this? I made a post about it just a few minutes ago. http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/ipui1/is_this_the_usual_response_of_reddit_to_women/ They discount everything in that video, and say that it's just the typical reddit response when a woman feels uncomfortable. And the worst part is this Redditors post to reddit over and over and over about what a bitch watson is for exposing their toxic attitudes. Ya that's exactly why we think she…
/r/MensRights14/07/11 10:24 PM
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Also, I was labeled a transphobe (which I am not) due to my comments about a specific person who in my opinion hates men, and my speculation as to the cause of that hatred. Foolsjourney was way out of line with her "it's rape if she says it's rape" post originally, and I was just bringing it up in a thread in r/feminism which was actually arguing for protecting the accused, just to see what they would say. I figured I would get sympathy from them, since FJ had been downvoted so hard in 2x, but i…
/r/MensRights14/07/11 09:51 PM
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Redditor for 4 minutes before posting this, sweet! Yes, i've seen that comic plenty. I am in fact dating a feminist, and she recently made my desktop background a very similar comic to this, with 2 panes, the first said "of course men can be feminists" then the second said "anything you can do we can do better". And she would love it if I would call her kitten. We are cat people, and meow at each other regularly.
/r/MensRights14/07/11 08:43 PM
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Who the fuck would want to go there anyway? Edit: I take that back, that is actually kind of a cool subreddit. HAHA
/r/MensRights14/07/11 08:31 PM
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And he was secretly happy, and probably hopeing/rooting for that to happen, while he was judging the competition? This line makes it seem like he was biased towards female contestants.
/r/MensRights14/07/11 05:33 PM
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The thing about feminists that guys like this don’t seem to get is that a lot of time men have done really awful things to us or other women we know. It could be rape, it could be domestic violence, it could be emotional abuse. It could just be the daily normality of cat-calling and slut-shaming that women endure. Whatever it is – it’s probably valid. Even if a man doesn’t think it’s valid, he has no right to tell a woman that her distrusting attitude toward men irrational. I love this part. If …
/r/MensRights14/07/11 05:11 PM
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I'm so glad you backed me up on this one. I was starting to think he was completely hopeless and not worth arguing with. And then he goes and calls me a troll. What a joke.
/r/MensRights14/07/11 01:57 AM
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I think you are the troll here. No one can actually be so stupid as to not believe that the declaration of independence gives us inalienable rights, and while it is not actually part of the constitution like I said, it is "a statement of principles through which the United States Constitution should be interpreted."
/r/MensRights13/07/11 11:26 PM
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Sure, you can put it that way. Just in this case my logic behind the "position I disagree with" is backed up by our common law tradition and the constitution of the united states.
/r/MensRights13/07/11 11:21 PM
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The sources and interpretation of the Declaration have been the subject of much scholarly inquiry. The Declaration justified the independence of the United States by listing colonial grievances against King George III, and by asserting certain natural and legal rights, including a right of revolution. Having served its original purpose in announcing independence, the text of the Declaration was initially ignored after the American Revolution. Its stature grew over the years, particularly the sec…
/r/MensRights13/07/11 11:19 PM
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My contention is when religion is used to justify denying someone their basic human rights, in this case, the right to an intact, whole body. If I were to invent a religion and use it to justify cutting off the pinky finger or toe of my child, that would be illegal, and rightly so. There is no religious exception for the FGM ban. I just have a problem when religion is used to do something which is clearly unconstitutional and against human rights, as you pointed out, banning states and cities fr…
/r/MensRights13/07/11 11:16 PM
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I'm fine with the federal government banning mutilation for whatever reason they choose. Mutilation is not acceptable to children who cannot consent or defend themselves. We do not allow our parents to cut off any other part of their bodies.
/r/MensRights13/07/11 02:33 PM
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The declaration of independence is part of the constitution, and that line is the basis for the bill of rights. If you don't believe in life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, than you don't believe in the constitution. And if you don't believe in the unalienable rights of human beings, regardless of what country they live in and what their laws are, then you are an inconsiderate person who lacks empathy.
/r/MensRights13/07/11 02:32 PM
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So you are saying that all of the things I mentioned should be legal? You don't think the government should be able to make laws which protect our rights as human beings? The part of the constitution which gives the federal government the right to make things like murder illegal is right here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life,_liberty_and_the_pursuit_of_happiness Also, check out this page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unalienable_rights Natural rights, also called inalienable rights, are consid…
/r/MensRights12/07/11 10:56 PM
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I don't care if people legislate based on religion, I care if they mutilate children based on religion. Mutilation is illegal against female infants, regardless of religious reasons.
/r/MensRights12/07/11 10:46 PM
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Do you think it is a problem to treat men and women differently? Do you think men and women should be treated the same, really? Men and women ARE different, they cannot be treated exactly the same. Women simply do not want to perform manual labor, or dangerous jobs as much as men. They are not as willing to sacrifice their safety and comfort for a pay check. Do you think we need to have equal numbers of men and women working in construction for the sexes to be "equal"?
/r/MensRights12/07/11 06:40 PM
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How does the federal government have any authority to ban child abuse and neglect? How does it have the authority to ban rape, assault, and murder? Those are similar crimes which violate the rights of another human being.
/r/MensRights12/07/11 06:23 PM
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Because these congressmen are religious, and according to the Jewish faith (I am unfamiliar with Islam) the baby must have its penis cut on the 8th day. It is completely stupid for us to be legislating this based on religion.
/r/MensRights12/07/11 06:20 PM
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Good points. I'm just too indoctrinated by the feminists who claim they are still being oppressed by the patriarchy. Living in WA state, I find that hard to see, since we have a 30-40% female government, a female governor, and 2 female senators, and a LOT of overcompensation for feminine issues.
/r/MensRights12/07/11 05:50 PM
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Ya you're right, they are mostly just whiny, entitled bitches who are not even happy with all the privileges they get. But that is the reason they, and many men as well, hate this subreddit. We don't give them any credit, and reduce their entire position to complaining about inequalities which are based on the natural differences between the genders and shouldn't be compensated for. I just like to also bring their opinions and perspectives to light, to be fair.
/r/MensRights12/07/11 05:41 PM
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Yes I agree. Women don't need external compensation, because the discrimination against them is not nearly as bad as it once was.
/r/MensRights12/07/11 04:17 PM
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Well that is subjective. I agree with you that the discrimination against minorities is worse than that against women, but feminists might not agree with that, or they might say that it doesn't matter if its worse for minorities, any discrimination is bad and we should fight against all types. I'm just trying to let you see their viewpoint, they feel, and sometimes rightly so, that women really get fewer opportunities than men.
/r/MensRights12/07/11 04:12 PM
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Well to be fair, I think this is a larger issue that just with female privilege. You can make this exact same argument with respect to any compensation for discrimination. A good example is affirmative action situations, like when a university lowers their admission standards for African American students to allow a certain quota to enter their school. I think it is somewhat unfair to allow people to enter the university who scored lower on the overall admittance score, whatever goes into the ap…
/r/MensRights11/07/11 09:52 PM
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Which is fine, I am happy to let you choose whether or not to circumcise any sons you may have. Give the same respect to everyone else to look at the freely-available data, and decide for themselves what is best for their families. Having the procedure recommended by doctors, whom we consider to be medical professionals, is obscene. If parents ask to have the procedure done, that is one thing, but right now we have doctors recommending it to people who would not have otherwise even considered it…
/r/MensRights11/07/11 09:38 PM
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"condoms aren't effective at preventing STIs, because people will engage in riskier sex" or saying "seatbelts don't reduce harm in accidents because people will drive more irresponsibility" If those statements were true, I mean if statistically speaking people were at greater risk to contract an STD using a condom than not, then condoms would not be pushed as a prevention device for STDs. They are used to prevent STDs because they are effective. Same thing with seatbelts, if statistically speaki…
/r/MensRights11/07/11 09:32 PM
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You said "most men prefer sex and masturbation with an intact penis". Are you prepared to edit your post to reflect the reality that such a statement is far from proved? I have edited the post, even though it was technically correct already, I have added one word to clarify. The word is I added is some, right before "studies". According to some studies of men who have been circumcised later in life, most men prefer sex and masturbation with an intact penis. You will find that in any discussion, …
/r/MensRights11/07/11 09:05 PM
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In general circumcised men report no difference in satisfaction This is patently false. Some report positive change, some report negative, but in most studies it is a minority who report no difference. It doesn't really matter to me if we can show with statistical significance that more men report negative changes than positive, as long as these high of percentages (38%) are showing that they were not satisfied with the procedure I think that is good indication that we shouldn't be doing this to…
/r/MensRights11/07/11 09:02 PM
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That study you cited is inconclusive. "more than 99% were "satisfied" with their circumcisions" They do not list what the criteria for satisfaction was. These men were circumcised while being told it might reduce their risk of HIV. Even if it did reduce their sexual function, they might be satisfied with the procedure due to the fact that they believed they had reduced their risk of contracting a deadly disease. That, by the way, is false, circumcision doesn't greatly lower the risk of contracti…
/r/MensRights11/07/11 08:54 PM
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True not every study shows that most men prefer sex and masturbation with an intact penis, but many studies show that, and ALL studies show that some men prefer sex and masturbation with an intact penis. To me it is less important whether less than 50% of men lose satisfaction or more than 50% of men lose satisfaction, in ALL studies too many men report losing satisfaction for my comfort. The only conclusion that can be drawn from any of these studies is that some men are happy with their circum…
/r/MensRights11/07/11 08:49 PM
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You are being downvoted for misinformation, because your study (at least the fink one) shows decreased sexual function on the two scales where sexual function was measured, worsened erectile function (p = 0.01) and decreased penile sensitivity (p = 0.08). It was already explained to you why that study found improved satisfaction, due to the fact that they had severe penile disorders prior to the surgery, and in correcting those problems naturally would have improved satisfaction. You claimed tha…
/r/MensRights11/07/11 08:35 PM
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It was me, and I did not lie, nor did I give any misinformation. Show me a study which only considered cosmetic and elective reasons for the circumcision, rather than medical reasons. Of course people report increased sexual pleasure when the starting point is a penis with phimosis, balanitis, or condyloma, which made up the vast majority of the cases. Those are painful medical conditions which greatly effect sexual function and pleasure. And as I pointed out, your study even showed worsened ere…
/r/MensRights11/07/11 08:25 PM
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From your own study: A total of 123 men were circumcised as adults. Indications for circumcision included phimosis in 64% of cases, balanitis in 17%, condyloma in 10%, redundant foreskin in 9% and elective in 7%. The response rate was 44% among potential responders. Mean age of responders was 42 years at circumcision and 46 years at survey. Adult circumcision appears to result in worsened erectile function (p = 0.01), decreased penile sensitivity (p = 0.08), no change in sexual activity (p = 0.2…
/r/MensRights11/07/11 06:07 PM
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According to people who have them and not speculation by people who don't, they are very easy to keep clean. Also, the idea that you must clean them for your child is a false one, you do not need to clean under the foreskin until puberty. In fact, 50% of boys have not even had full retraction from the foreskin by age 10. That is completely normal, and natural. http://www.drmomma.org/2010/01/phony-phimosis-diagnosis.html
/r/MensRights11/07/11 04:22 PM
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You simply have no idea what sex or masturbation would feel like with an intact penis, because you have never tried it. According to some studies of men who have been circumcised later in life, most men prefer sex and masturbation with an intact penis. It is a scientific fact that there are thousands of fine touch nerve endings in the foreskin which are removed with the procedure. We can never get that sensitivity back. You see, I'm circumcised, and I have a healthy sex life, but I want to know …
/r/MensRights11/07/11 04:10 PM
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Stab her, then cheat on her with the stab wound. Perfect.
/r/MensRights10/07/11 01:07 PM
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My girlfriend and I both regularly talk about stabbing, shooting, or otherwise killing each other or otherpeople regularly, but it is in obvious jest, its kind of a running joke between us and we try not to do it in front of other people haha. Anyway, sounds lik a much different situation than what you discribed.
/r/MensRights10/07/11 01:02 PM
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Well I don't mind paying her for things she does for me. For example, I buy her things when she cleans up my areas of the house, and when she does my laundry. She works much less than me, so she has more free time, so I give her some of my money to account for the work she does for me. I also grant her a free line of credit, she can spend more than she makes in a month and have it roll over to the next month and then pay me.
/r/MensRights08/07/11 12:29 AM
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Good answer!
/r/MensRights08/07/11 12:27 AM
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Well, which one do you want more? If you had to choose rich husband or career, and could not have both, which would you rather have? I know I would rather have a wife so rich that I never had to work, if that were an option for me. Even without a career I could find fun things to spend my time on :) I don't think there is anything wrong with that though. It would be silly to imply that somehow falls into traditionalist woman roles. If the question is framed properly, I can't imagine very many me…
/r/MensRights08/07/11 12:06 AM
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That seems to match the sentiments of my girlfriend perfectly. She has never held a full time job in her life, and doesn't ever want to if she can avoid it. She hopes that I get rich. Little does she know, me getting rich will not change the fact that everything in the relationship is split 50/50, she pays for what she uses and I pay for what I use, and things with joint use we split evenly. I'm more than happy to pay for dinner when we go out, but i save the receipt and it goes on the account. …
/r/MensRights08/07/11 12:02 AM
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Unless he hit the "STOP" button and was preventing her from resuming the operation of the elevator, you are correct, she was not cornered. She was in a space where she was forced to be with him and only him for a small amount of time, one might say that is the perfect opportunity to proposition someone for coffee, or sex, and obviously, she had no trouble with leaving the elevator after saying no, or this story would be quite different.
/r/MensRights07/07/11 11:37 PM
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Well, I generally agree with you, but you are being a bit unfair. That isn't actually the crime she was blaming the guy for. In her mind, he was deserving of the blame because he must have known that by cornering the woman in an enclosed space at 4 am he was utilizing her fear of rape to his advantage. The way I read it, she is completely discounting the possibility that he did not consider the woman's irrational fear and is just making an honest proposition. The fact that he propositioned the w…
/r/MensRights07/07/11 11:29 PM
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because of the stigma attached to being raped obviously The only stigma attached to being raped in this society is sympathy and blind acceptance of your story. Who treats a rape victim poorly because they were raped? If anything, those people would be treated much better if people know what had happened to them. sure, it's just that you can almost never prove that a rape claim is false Very true. I am well aware that just because you cannot prove someone is guilty doesn't mean they did not commi…
/r/MensRights06/07/11 08:58 PM
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I don't want to shame them, but I don't see any reason to keep their faces and names secret if they are not in any danger. We only do that if the person is a minor or a witness in a case where their life may be at risk. Also, once it is shown that they are lying, the media should have their hayday with them and parade them in front of every TV screen in handcuffs (which they should be in for a false rape claim, huge waste of our judicial resources in an attempt to deny an innocent man his freedo…
/r/MensRights06/07/11 05:45 PM
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It only took me 2 minutes of searching for "us harbour criminal citizen" to find this http://english.pravda.ru/world/americas/03-02-2011/116766-nazi_war_criminals-0/ Not a child rapist but I think a nazi war criminal is just as bad if not worse.
/r/MensRights06/07/11 12:42 PM
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Right, so that means you were agreeing with me not playing devils advocate. You were arguing for the system they have in france, which I would like to adopt in america. Hense why I thought you were in some way confused.
/r/MensRights06/07/11 12:33 PM
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I think you got confused. While I think this could be a great idea, but isn't releasing the name of the accused for their protection? For whose protection? The accused? In the next sentence you imply it would be for the accuser's protection that the name would be released, which is very true, and one good reason why it should be the way it is in France. We in the US are currently not releasing the name of the accuser, in France they do release the name. For all other crimes we do release the nam…
/r/MensRights06/07/11 03:59 AM
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Ya no, I think I lost this one, he does deserve to go to prison. Even as the biggest devil's advocate i have to admit that. I'm just saying you cant really blame the french for harboring him, we would likely do the same if it were our citizen.
/r/MensRights06/07/11 03:42 AM
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Under the terms of the plea agreement, the court ordered Polanski to report to a state prison for a 90-day psychiatric evaluation, but granted a stay to allow him to complete his current project. Under the terms set by the court, he traveled to Europe to complete filming.[26] Polanski returned to California and reported to Chino State Prison for the evaluation period, and was released after 42 days.[27] Polanski's lawyers had the expectation that Polanski would get only probation at the subseque…
/r/MensRights06/07/11 01:03 AM
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I am also partially Jewish, and have visited the holocaust museum in Washington DC, which really opened my eyes to the fact that the concentration camps were not just for Jews, but also for homosexuals, some minorities, and the mentally and physically handicapped. The point is that it makes more sense to classify the camps based on the group doing the oppressing rather than the group oppressed. I would like the same to be true of the Japanese internment camps in WW2 in the US, they should be the…
/r/MensRights05/07/11 10:57 PM
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Why would DSK allow the feminists to set up concentration camps? You'd think after this debacle he would be against allowing feminists to mistreat people. Or did you mean that feminists will be in concentration camps? Because in the holocaust we didn't call them Jewish concentration camps, we called them Nazi concentration camps. If the feminists are in the camps, they would be called masculinist concentration camps.
/r/MensRights05/07/11 09:49 PM
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Its easy to find by checking his comment history. http://www.reddit.com/r/TwoXChromosomes/comments/igjkj/most_bizarre_person_youve_ever_dated/c23r2om?context=5
/r/MensRights05/07/11 09:34 PM
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DNA evidence shows sex occurred and the victim had genital injuries. IIRC this was a case of forced oral sex. Why would there be evidence that sex occurred, and why would the victim have genital injuries if only oral sex occurred? And, none of those prove that it was not consensual sex anyway. She needs to prove she did not consent to the sex for it to be rape. Normally her word would be good enough, but we have good reason not to trust her word.
/r/MensRights05/07/11 09:14 PM
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http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/ihhu1/france_considers_american_media_attitudes_towards/ The rape culture we have in our society is a tragedy, one which overcompensates for the difficulty of levelling true rape accusations against powerful men by giving the accuser the benefit of the doubt. Overcompensation for oppression is oppression of a different sort.
/r/MensRights05/07/11 09:10 PM
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The important and interesting thing here is that they do not parade the accused in front of the press in handcuffs, and call him a "horny toad", and they release the name and photograph of his accuser, something that American media considers to be a terrible violation of the "victim" as they see it, not "accuser". A person is not a victim until a crime is proven. Well, this article redacts the name, for the same reason, but I will not do so. The woman who ruined DSK's life is named Nafissatou Di…
/r/MensRights05/07/11 08:55 PM
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Sounds delicious.
/r/MensRights05/07/11 08:42 PM
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I'm sorry to say it, but I have to take AntiMeministMedia's side on this one. A rape is not a life threatening event in an of itself, any more than a robbery or mugging is. Some rapes, along with some muggings and some robbery, are life threatening events. It is only life threatening if your life is actually threatened. People don't say they are a robbery survivor, or a mugging survivor, they say they are a robbery victim or mugging victim. A plane ride can result in death, but people don't say …
/r/MensRights05/07/11 08:34 PM
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I never understand the connection between anarchism and sanity. We only survive because of the state. Well my large stash of guns, ammo, and food might help, but no gaurentees.
/r/MensRights03/07/11 01:55 PM
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But the risk of people killing you is present from both genders equally. The risk of someone falsely claiming that you raped them is far worse for a man in this situation. The man doesn't have the same ability to claim that the woman raped him and have it be treated as truth even if completely unsubstantiated.
/r/MensRights02/07/11 09:02 PM
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To make a point. If she planned it out, it could be relatively simply for her to even take some of his sperm, perhaps from a tissue he used to masturbate or a used condom, and inseminate herself, providing more than enough physical evidence for the rape. Then get someone to bruise you up a little, and the rape case is golden.
/r/MensRights01/07/11 09:59 PM
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The case on on the verge of collapse, and he was freed without bail on his own recognisence. I think that means that everything said here is factual. He probably wont end up president of France, but he was certainly looking good for that position before this issue. The fact that he might no longer be able to accomplish that is just another indication of how terribly damaging a false rape claim can be.
/r/MensRights01/07/11 09:53 PM
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For starters, what abk0100 said, "There are types of male circumcision that are far worse than foreskin-removal, and there are types of female circumcision that are fare less drastic than clitoris-removal." Second, I take offence to this statement: Whereas for men, a section of skin is removed that has little to no bearing on sexual enjoyment. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_effects_of_circumcision As you can read in the opening synopsis, the debate for this is far from over, but studies ess…
/r/MensRights30/06/11 11:30 PM
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I'm curious what you guys use to argue against the anti-Semitism claim? Here is an example: http://www.reddit.com/r/Judaism/comments/icnkm/foreskin_man_meet_vulva_girl/c22omap?context=3 I realize that this comic book has a Jew as the villain, but still I don't see the intactivist movement as being anti-Semitic, other than that the Jewish people are the ones most interested in preserving the tradition of circumcision. Wanting to make circumcision illegal does make one the enemy of the Jewish fait…
/r/MensRights29/06/11 11:25 PM
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Yes I found that statement to be deeply offensive. I like your correction :)
/r/MensRights29/06/11 11:17 PM
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Read this about keeping an uncircumcised penis clean. It is easier than you have been lead to believe. http://www.drmomma.org/2010/01/phony-phimosis-diagnosis.html As a child grows, the foreskin will separate from the glans. This can take many years for some boys and for other boys, it seems to happen all at once. During or after the separation process, there may be some shedding of dead skin cells in the form of smegma (please note that women and girls also have smegma). This shedding of dead c…
/r/MensRights27/06/11 07:17 PM
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First of all, I am circumcised, and I can say that I feel mutilated. Second, you only like how it looks because that is how you have been your entire life, and that is the more culturally acceptable penis look. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foot_binding foot binding used to be considered the best way to look in Japan, that doesn't mean it isn't an abomination. In countries like Norway where only about 5% of the population are circumcised surveys show that people like the look of uncircumcised pen…
/r/MensRights27/06/11 07:12 PM
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I bet they would mostly focus on the homeless problem as it affects women and try to ignore the men.
/r/MensRights27/06/11 12:46 PM
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Ya the crusade that this country has gone on against child porn is ridiculous. Its just as ridiculous as the war on drugs. Many of the head leaders of the anti-child-porn movement have been later caught with their own child porn, its a self-loathing, hypocritical quest against human nature. I can search google right now and find hundreds of images of nude children and adolescents on nudist websites, and that is perfectly legal and should be because it is just people acting the way they want, nat…
/r/MensRights25/06/11 02:39 PM
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I think age of consent is bullshit anyway, it shouldn't be different in different states. It should just be 16 everywhere, with a 2 yr exception for people under 20. So like 14y/o can bang each other or up to 20y/o but not more. If you go younger than that for either gender its bad news Just for the record, I'm 24, have never had sex with anyone under 18, and wouldn't date a 16 y/o if this was the law. I just believe in giving adolesents more freedom. I also think the drinking age should be 18. …
/r/MensRights25/06/11 01:40 PM
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You're female aren't you? Just asking because I've never heard a man say "sweetheart" like that.
/r/MensRights13/06/11 02:30 PM
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Good article and I totally agree it is a huge problem but he is not helping with that title. It is still technically a minority. He could try to make a claim that more claims are flase than true, that would show that a majority of claims are false, but he didn't show that. 11% is a minority of society, so it seems like people who would be against this article have something to argue about right away.
/r/MensRights05/06/11 01:41 PM
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I'm not saying you do those thing, those are just things people do in this subreddit to cause people to hate it. I'm just saying that some people act that way, and it is enough of a percentage to cause the overall view of this subreddit to be negative for many people.
/r/MensRights03/06/11 04:25 PM
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I don't understand why it has to be us vs them. Both sides are just perspectives, both sides are right, and both sides have asshole extremeists who yell and point fingers and generalize, alienating the other side and continuing the cycle of hate.
/r/MensRights03/06/11 01:49 PM
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This is a very logical and reasonable post. If more people would read this, maybe they would realize generalizing and many of the other things you mentioned are really not progressing men's rights and just cause people, men and women, to stop reading this subreddit.
/r/MensRights03/06/11 01:44 PM
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There is a difference between men defending against attacks and attacking back. Calling women evil and implying that all women are a certain way alienates people from this subreddit, men and women alike. It is not ture, not all women behave any specific way, and not all women are evil, just like not all men beat their wives, although many do. Generalizing, especially in negative ways, doesn't progress the men's rights movement.
/r/MensRights03/06/11 01:42 PM
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I wouldn't generally call it a lie, its just a perspective. People see what mattrs to them, and focus only on that, ignoring all else. Some women are oppressed and some men are privilaged oppressors, just as some men are oppressed and some women are privilaged oppessors.
/r/MensRights03/06/11 01:37 PM
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How would you know since by your own admission you didn't read my reply. Edit: I think it is hilarious you are trying to bait me into repeating myself, when you said you didn't even read my last post which had substance. Why is it that the real trolls seem to always accuse people with well reasoned, logical, punctuated, and grammatically correct posts of being trolls? If you want me to continue this debate with you, you must first read and respond to my previous long winded post. I thought I add…
/r/MensRights25/05/11 09:34 PM
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Thanks for proving me right. I love being right.
/r/MensRights25/05/11 09:01 PM
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I feel like it is probably a waste of my time to talk with you based on the lack of intelligence displayed in your post, but i'll try anyway. For starters, what do you mean by "Some things are easy to pick up infectionwise"? It is true that uncircumcised boys have a higher risk of urinary tract infection, but it is negligible if proper hygiene is maintained. We can do invasive surgeries to help prevent sinus infections also, but we don't unless the person has a serious sinus infection which conv…
/r/MensRights25/05/11 08:21 PM
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Ya seriously, i've stayed up at night worrying about all sorts of things, and I don't even have children to take care of, I imagine it will get worse not better. I just think men generally are taught to be tougher as far as showing emotions, so they don't display as much worry on average, leading to the perception by women that men do not worry as much. It is mainly cultural I think.
/r/MensRights25/05/11 05:30 PM
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I think she meant watching friends as in people who are her friends, not the TV show. But interesting that they edited it... I remember hearing that part.
/r/MensRights25/05/11 05:13 PM
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Hmm I did some research and you are correct. I was mislead by stupid feminist arguments and false studies. It seems they all must have medical justification to go forward. Unfortunately, I cannot find anywhere a list of justifications for the medical reasons for it, so I'm afraid it is mostly up to doctor and parent discretion, but yes, it is a much smaller problem than male genital cutting. And the same type of cutting on females in this country is illegal by federal law as of 1996.
/r/MensRights25/05/11 05:08 PM
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Well despite the bad study, kids do die, like this one http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/hjird/boy_dies_from_botched_circumcision/ We don't have good statistics, but I'm sure its not just one, and isn't one too many? There are very limited benefits to the procedure in modern times, we don't have cleanliness issues anymore. its getting rid of some penis skin, removing some sensitivity, and making masturbation much less enjoyable and easy. I don't want some ancient religion passing down …
/r/MensRights25/05/11 04:57 PM
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I'm in the same situation. I don't really blame my parents, but i do hold a minor grudge against them. I mostly blame the culture, the fact that my dad, while not a practicing Jew, came from a partially Jewish family, and that doctors in America recommend the procedure. I will not allow my son to be circumcised no matter what.
/r/MensRights25/05/11 04:54 PM
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I heard this story on the radio this morning, it pissed me off so much. Sounds like my mom talking about how useless her boyfriends are, stupid man hate. Especially the part about how only women worry, and only women care about children's nourishment and work/home balance... Wow
/r/MensRights25/05/11 04:46 PM
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Actually we do perform genital cutting on female infants in his country. Usually it is corrective, like if the clit is to large or he vagina opening is not large enough, but often it is cosmetic and not medically required and the parent gets to make the decision in those cases, not the doctor. There are also complications from that, but it is much more rare than circumcision so I imagine there are fewer fatalities every year, but I don't know for sure.
/r/MensRights25/05/11 01:56 PM
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what doesbeing cautious in this situation mean to you? Putting your hand on your purse gun and keepingaclose watch on the guy? Because that is a reasonable responce, and thats the resonce I sometimes have as a man encountering sketchy people at night on foot. If your recation is to look creeped out and speed up, then you are just sending signals to the guy that you are scared, which is lame. If he does not intend you harm (most likly) you insulted him, and if he does you have accomplished nothin…
/r/MensRights07/05/11 02:31 PM
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Wow you are funny... you are saying that thefact that the language has been changed to include women somehow shows a bias against men? Women are serving and dieing just because they can't be assigned to combat units yet doesn't mean they dnt get into combat. The language has been changed to reflect that and you complain that it is not biased for men like it use to be. Equal is equal, and before women can be assigned to combat units (coming soon I hope) they have to be recognized as worthy of tha…
/r/MensRights03/05/11 06:15 AM
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Just remember 113 women died in iraq and afganistan, and about 600 were wounded in action, so I don't think its totally fair to say young men only and discount the female soldiers dieing for no good reason over there. http://usmilitary.about.com/od/terrorism/a/iraqdeath1000.htm
/r/MensRights02/05/11 01:39 PM
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Th point is the pople who are innately violent and morally amb iguous are 15% of the population or so at most.
/r/MensRights26/04/11 02:23 PM
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Women typically want a lot more from a relationship than just money. But you are right that some women will do this.
/r/MensRights15/04/11 06:20 PM
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Ya that's why you have to make sure the woman is more interested, or thinks she is moreinterested in keeping the relationship. Women need far more from us men than just money. They depend greatly on their man for emotional reasons, and if you threaten that they will do anything to stay in. Relationship. That is why women are often forced to stay in abusive relationships eve though they could just all the cops, because they are too afraid of losing their husband. Not saying I abuse my woman, just…
/r/MensRights15/04/11 01:25 PM
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But you cannot assume that she only uses men for her benefit from comments made supporting men's rights on a forum. Traditionalist women often do A TON for their man, and are a valuable part of the household, contributing to the man not having to do as much housework and work raising children. On a case by case basis you can call specific women out, but to insult all traditionalist women who support men's rights is counterproductive, and outright prejudice. Judge individuals based on their own a…
/r/MensRights14/04/11 11:59 PM
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I like that, I may have to use that argument some time.
/r/MensRights14/04/11 11:26 PM
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Yes I agree with that to an extent, but there are bigger enemies. If any person is arguing for the side I believe in, regardless of their motivations, they are by definition on my side. I'm not going to tell them to go fuck themselves for arguing for me. Now as soon as that traditionalist women starts arguing for things I don't agree with, I wont hesitate to say I think they are wrong, but i'm still not going to result to insults. There is simply no reason for it, especially if they are being po…
/r/MensRights14/04/11 11:14 PM
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Well I'm not as anti traditionalist as others. I figure if a traditionalist women is arguing for men's rights that's still a net positive, and she most certainly doesn't deserve to be told to "go fuck herself" because of it.
/r/MensRights14/04/11 11:11 PM
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I might, but for now I just wanted the MRA of reddit to have some questions to think about after reading this. It just seems counterproductive to insult people who are arguing for things you believe in, even if they have some beliefs you don't agree with. The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
/r/MensRights14/04/11 10:52 PM
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I'm with you. I just wanted people on reddit to have a voice of sanity to balance it against. It just seems counterproductive to insult people who are arguing for things you believe in, even if they have some beliefs you don't agree with. The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
/r/MensRights14/04/11 10:51 PM
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I'm trying to figure out what the person who wrote this actually wants. What is the end goal he is going for, what society structure would he consider better than what we have now and what we had before. Clearly he doesn't want to go back to traditional values of the 50s and earlier, but he also doesn't like where we've ended up along this path of man hating feminism. So where is he trying to get to? Generally to me it would seem counterproductive to tell people who are arguing for your side to …
/r/MensRights14/04/11 10:41 PM
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Ok so we might need to add a blood test to ensure the person is not under the influence of substances when they signed the document. The blood test would also be performed on camera before the document is signed, in front of the witness.
/r/MensRights18/03/11 09:29 PM
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Sadly, this one is not a troll, or if it is, its a troll 6 months in the making http://www.reddit.com/r/relationship_advice/comments/cqv99/fears_for_the_future_of_our_relationship/ Learn from this person, this happens with disturbing frequency, be aware that if you disagree with your partner's idea on when is a good time to have kids, she may take drastic measures to force you to commit, maybe much sooner than either of you had planned, and ruin both of your lives.
/r/MensRights07/02/11 07:10 PM
You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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