Why does every post about rape have to be used as an example of how women are incapable of protecting themselves? Safety advice is not victim blame.

Throwaway_236247 · 2011-09-13T21:39:54+00:00

Granted, rape shouldn't happen. I agree. I've dated girls who have been raped (one by her own brother), I've seen the damage it does.

On the other hand, a point was brought up here on reddit as well where rape is sometimes used by a woman to justify having slept with someone they later regret when they have sobered up. I'm sure this number is much lower than actual rape cases but the redditor said something to the effect of: If a woman is responsible when she gets behind the wheel of a car after drinking and hits someone, then why isn't she responsible when she gets into bed with someone after drinking?

Which I find to be a completely valid point in those cases. But then, how do you prove when actual rape occurred and when it was just a shitty choice by the girl the night before to fuck a guy?

ManThoughts · 2011-09-14T00:17:23+00:00

It is NEVER the fault of the victim for being raped.
Advice for risk avoidance is not victim-blaming.

Still, Feminism brainwashes women into turning off their mind, and rejecting advice on risk-avoidance. Because Feminists would rather use rape as a political tool to destroy and control men, than actually help reduce incidences of rape.

They don't want women to hear common-sense advice of how to reduce their risk, because then less women would get raped, and they would have less ability to paint all men as monsters and get more money from the federal government.

So they hold slutwalks, and chant nonsense like "Rape will stop when men stop raping." And sadly, too many women are listening to them.

Scott2508 · 2011-09-14T11:28:00+00:00

Its one that pisses me off because things that are thrown up as examples of slut shaming are quite often good learning point for women in terms of minimizing risk, A true victim of rape is never , ever to blame for the rape occuring and I have yet to discover any MRA who belives that "the bitch deserves it" or some other nonsense, and if i heard that id be one of the first to shout them down , but getting accused of being pro rape simply because you encourage people to try and minimise the chances of it occuring is reprehensible, if by taking a few simple steps reduces your risk of harm then this advice should be taken, sadly we dont live in utopia and there are sickos of both genders out there , the whole we should be able to do/wear what we want is ideal but also shows a total disregard for safety

mellowgreen · 2011-09-13T20:36:10+00:00

Here is another comment that got downvoted about "rapists don't rape" vs "women be safe". I don't understand why "rapists don't rape" has to be a counter to "women be safe", and used to argue that women shouldn't have any responsibility for their own safety. Basically they are saying that women cannot do anything to protect themselves from rape, and so they shouldn't even bother trying. Go ahead and get blackout drunk and walk home 20 blocks through a bad neighborhood, that is your right as a woman. It isn't your responsibility to keep yourself safe, it is the rapist's responsibility not to rape you. Women shouldn't have to do anything to minimize their risk and keep themselves safe, they should just be magically safe everywhere because rape shouldn't happen. We need to change the rape culture so that rapes magically no longer occur, and women do not need to walk in fear.

http://www.reddit.com/r/reddit.com/comments/kd5sl/keep_it_classy_reddit/c2jcj7o?context=7

Title	Why does every post about rape have to be used as an example of how women are incapable of protecting themselves? Safety advice is not victim blame.
Author	mellowgreen
Upvotes	12
Comments	35
Date	September 13, 2011 8:30 PM UTC (14 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
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