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| 1 | Just observe couples offline for a while and you’ll realise the bar isn’t as high as you probably think it isIf a woman can't get commitment from a man far out of her league she may settle for someone less hard to secure. That says nothing of genuine desire. (Which is harder to asses). You can only really know that he was relatively conventional to commit to for the time being from who is left out of her options. Sure that goes both ways on technicality. Women are the ones who choose and reject ultimately so men's preference all of men's preferences save for a top % are irrelevant to women unless the w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/23 11:46 AM |
| 1 | CMV: If the only reason you’re improving yourself is to get laid, you’re making it more difficult to get laidTook me a while to understand this, but it’s so true. You should want a good job because it gives you freedom and access to cool shit. You should want to travel because seeing other countries is a unique and growing experience. You should work out because being in good shape feels good, and accomplishing things gives you a sense of gratification. Shaming men for having ambitions as a tertiary goal to getting laid is a privileged take . Men should do these things for whatever reason they want to.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/23 11:15 AM |
| 1 | Women who had pre marital sex are more likely to get divorced because of lack of religious belief, not because of broken pair boding abilities or whatever RP says.That's because pay rates are much mkre equal then they were before amongst genders Also how much less alimony? How are cases processed what are alternatives judicial decisions ect ect. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/23 10:39 AM |
| 1 | Women claiming they're super duper sexually attracted to their husbands, more than they were to other men they fucked, is massive cope. Most women cannot get commitment from a sexually attractive man.Because it is an insane privilege that reflects onto how a person is viewed and valued by society ,their peers , their potential partners and themselves. With permenant consequences for how men and women interact at all levels of society. Imagine being socially stunted and ugly and then watching other people effortlessly make friendships. You try your hardest but your always playing catch up. And when you do succeed its after years of constant improvement for a friend that fits your perpetually … | /r/AllPillDebate | 02/08/23 05:56 AM |
| – | I know this has been said a million times before: but the men who are feeling lonely and struggling in dating just have higher standards.I was redpil af because I just wanted a partner who wouldn't abuse me. Are those standards too high. Because RP helped me get there. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/23 10:07 AM |
| 1 | How do you see the "Male Personal development" and how do you see it in yourself?the rich guy that smokes cigarettes This portion kind of summed up the crux of what I think is your primary blindspot on this topic. Improvement content isint generally promoting this..the content you are following is. The most politically polarizing figures might yes but my observations is that the majority of Improvement channels say same thing "Women are, men must become." Which is true! Men have no value as far as the world of love and sex is concerned. Their companionship both romantic and … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/23 10:04 AM |
| 2 | A guy spending a lot of money is a red flag.Today I learned men who have struggled with dating to the point where they feel only money can compensate are a red flag | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/23 09:48 AM |
| 2 | Went full-on pick-me as an experiment and got a boyfriend within a month.It will but 3-4 years ago if a woman was putting In aa much effort, like to the point as the OP was? I would be questioning if there were other motives. Still hoping for the best but it would of been uncanny. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/23 09:44 AM |
| 1 | Went full-on pick-me as an experiment and got a boyfriend within a month.She could of just not felt enthusiastic about the men coming her way up until then | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/23 09:40 AM |
| 3 | Projection and hypocrisy - Reddit is rife full of thisFuck this is a accurate | /r/AllPillDebate | 14/07/23 08:49 PM |
| 1 | Q4Men: How would you respond to this woman?This is love bombing. Also I would wake up | /r/AllPillDebate | 14/07/23 08:31 PM |
| – | Would you rather be forever alone or sugar coat (lie about some aspects) of yourself in order to get into a relationship (no matter how stable it is)?Of course 2 without a question. I'm not going to damn myself to a lifetime of aloneness for some arbitrary "virtue" like that. Principles of thay measure are a luxury for the privileged. If you don't want men Behaving in that way don't encourage a culture where they find themselves in that situation or gradients of that situation. Every man is fighting to improve their odds asking for sacrificial honesty is a fools errand. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/23 08:15 PM |
| 2 | Red pill advice is a terrible doubled edged sword for autistic menOr you can just learn the rules of social engagement This is the exact issue. Autistic men can often struggle in the extreme to do this with only meager resultant gains. Sure not every single autistic male struggles this much but it seems like the majority do. I keep seeing post with autistic males claiming they have to mangle their personalities to have any success with women and it breaks my heart. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/23 08:11 PM |
| 0 | Have you ever had a close, heterosexual female platonic friend before?All of my friends are cis women or trans. I cannot relate to men outside of the worthlessness men have in a heterosexual dating environment. I hate being perceived as male. I have like 2-3 male "friends" but we mainly became friends due to bonding over mutual frustration with cis women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/23 06:21 PM |
| – | Q4M: What lessons are you taking away from the Jonah Hill text leaks?A misconstrued set of screenshots and q pretty crying face can ruin your life, get you socially isolated, and be a permanent stain on your name. But yea your right! "Nothing that happens online has consequences teehee!" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/23 06:17 PM |
| 5 | Most attractive men know they are attractive, and the whole “you’re probably not as good looking as you think you are” nonsense is just a deflection and shaming tactic to once again divert attention from realityYour “level” is your objective physical beauty, which is static or unchanged by fluctuations in a fickle market like dating. Ok i agree that beauty is more objective than the numbskulled perspective of "every woman has different perspectives " and thats the end of thr story as if attraction amongst women js a fucking flat topology or some shit. But....how do you measure you measure this in relation to dating? It's going to be your average sexual success or ease of access to getting relationships… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/23 06:04 PM |
| 5 | Whats your opinion on pre-nups?Being paranoid and forcing women, usually, to sign prenups when they perform an enormous amount of household labor that easily adds up to $300,000 a year is a poor choice This is ridiculous and nonsensical the real amount of houshold labour at most wouldn't add up to more than 25k a year in ideal circumstances. Compare it to the actual market rates of people who professionally fufill many of the roles in general household labour. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/23 09:51 AM |
| 2 | Modern day dating is basically a winner takes all market…True but if most men start doing this it will just become the meta | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/23 07:57 PM |
| 2 | Modern dating is better for liars due to the lack of vettingI'm happy for you then. Good luck brother 🫂 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/23 03:53 PM |
| 1 | Modern dating is better for liars due to the lack of vettingWhat would make you happy than? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/23 03:28 PM |
| 4 | New study finds men are leaving the workforce en masse, why work hard if you are not entitled to a wife nor children? This already happened in Japan by men turning into Hikkikomori and japanese economy is in the brink of collapse, men have left the plantation since there's nothing left for themIs your argument that society doesn't care about significant negative demographic and socioeconomic and political trends because...people whose job titles can be listed on a reddit comment aren't actively keeping up to date with the data? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/23 03:27 PM |
| 2 | Q4M: would you rather be single or in a horrible relationship?I went through two highly abusive relationships. Before i started doing anything and everything to increase my smv/rmv lol The first was after half a decade of singleness i was at the point where i assumed i wouldn't "get another chance" the person had mutiple really bad personality issues. But i was determined to help them grow regardless unfortunately they also turned out to have many mental issues and this drained me daily with emotional abuse .but i enjoyed a lot of them as a person when the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/23 11:41 AM |
| 1 | Modern dating is better for liars due to the lack of vettingLieing really is neccessary for most men in dating but it sounds like maybe you are overdoing it somewhat? There are useful lies and then there lies that require little effort to maintain. Are you taking advantage of the intersection of those two groups? 🤔 My ethnicity Sure the school This one is harder to cover up. People dont really care where you went. Theres tons of talented yuppies with great hearts graduated from MIT that women will pass up for life simply because they lack confidence. So … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/23 11:15 AM |
| 15 | New study finds men are leaving the workforce en masse, why work hard if you are not entitled to a wife nor children? This already happened in Japan by men turning into Hikkikomori and japanese economy is in the brink of collapse, men have left the plantation since there's nothing left for themSociety is atomized and the global dating market has resulted in a superstar economy. Those men who society has no stake in. In return have no stake in society. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/23 10:49 AM |
| 2 | Most men are not loyal, they just have no optionsI think they are both right it could be the case that men and women love differently, so by each others standards, they feel the other is incapable | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/02/23 01:31 AM |
| 2 | Valentine's day revolves around women because most relationships revolve around women.Fresh off the grill lmao | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/23 06:42 AM |
| 8 | Valentine's day revolves around women because most relationships revolve around women.Behaving ethically? How is it unethical to get an even exchange? In the same way it's unethical to coerce people from a position of power in general. Its bad when men in positions of power do it the same goes for women. You are admitting that in a position of power your idea of equivalent exchange is entirely based on the principle of leverage and power over other people. If I as a woman am so valuable ( I’m not I’m playing along with the ridiculous notion) why would I go date fuck or even ackno… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/23 08:48 PM |
| 4 | Would you be happier with women making the first shot at this point?You are one of few posters that gives me any hope for the genders lmao | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/23 05:35 PM |
| 1 | Would you be happier with women making the first shot at this point?The only way the man knows if he approaches. Realiatically not like she will get off her ass and do it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/23 05:33 PM |
| 16 | Valentine's day revolves around women because most relationships revolve around women.What she’s supposed to do with that power? Behave ethically? Practice some of the gender egalitarianism she preaches? How can you complain about male privileges and patriarchy when you proport that the logical way to act in a scenario with ultimate power is to act as selfishly as possible. I mean most women aren't that honest about this sort of thing but damn. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/23 05:27 PM |
| 2 | Do men have ANY advantages when it comes to dating?Ok so even after all changes were said and done by the statistics you gave single men(and more men describe themselves as single than women do to add to that) still want relationships much more despite a reduction in interest. Sounds like the gendered power dynamic still remains. You will argue that it is because women have too many options. And men have none. But I don't see evidence for it, and it doesn't even make sense mathematically. Can you elaborate as to why it doesn't make mathematical … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/23 12:55 PM |
| 4 | Do men have ANY advantages when it comes to dating?Many women also only have the choice in the prescriptive sense, because all the men who offer themselves for a long-term relationship and starting a family are "untreated swamp water" for them. So a lot of women choose "dehydration". Sure but most men and women are average and women have a pool of choices that is multiple orders of magnitudes larger then men in better life circumstances than her male counterparts so even if women are describing things that way its highly unlikely that their perc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/23 12:24 PM |
| 6 | Do men have ANY advantages when it comes to dating?Even an average or above-average man has a choice. He can accept the women who want to be his partners or reject them and be single. That's only a "choice" in the prescriptive sense someone who can choose between untreated swamp water and dehydration has a choice to in the way you are presenting choice to your reader. In the colloquial sense that most people actually use the term in regards to "having choice " they mean it in a context of having some level of agency that extends beyond making co… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/23 11:09 AM |
| 0 | Do men have ANY advantages when it comes to dating?What qualties are not definable exactly? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/23 10:56 AM |
| 3 | Men are worse people morally than womenPerhaps we can bring more history into this too and talk about the millenniums of systematic gender inequality and misogyny across the entire world. How is it coincidental that almost every culture was patriarchal If we take this for granted then this isn't a reflection of gendered morality more so just the reality that patriarchal societies regularly outcompeted and dominated non patriarchal ones | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/02/23 12:28 AM |
| 1 | How would you react if your (potential) girlfriend/boyfriend saw your posts and comments on this sub ?Pretty sure I couldn't recover from that lmao. I get salty and vent a lot about the power dynamics between men and women. All the better no one knows. Im not squandering my social capital just so people can reject me over my internal frustrations | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/23 09:47 PM |
| 1 | How do you solve the "The Fatherless Crisis"?I think your misinterpreting two things. Fatherlessness from a RP perspective is solved when men who want to have relationships and eventually have children build up the SMV/RMV to be able to do so. It also discourages men from committing (and especially having children with) low quality women. The idea is that these men will get into relationships and start and stay in famlies of their own and be positive male role models to their OWN children. What about the children already of single mothers?… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/23 08:00 AM |
| 1 | If you're going to date someone from a screwed-up background or unstable home, your chances of having a healthy relationship are extremely slim.This idea that we are less deserving of a stable partner is so nauseating. You are in absolutely no way entitled to even a modicum of partnership from anyone. Yes people work hard to overcome their past but that doesn't mean your upbringing isint going to be taken into account by people looking for partners themselves. That being said OP is lacking nuance here | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/23 10:09 AM |
| 3 | What age is best for men to pick wives?Lmao bruh 🤣 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/23 12:20 AM |
| 1 | Read about women's actual experiences. Her looks rarely ever matter to men even if she's fat or not prettyWe gon cope today | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/02/23 08:43 PM |
| 2 | How are there enough high value men for all of the women who feel entitled to them?Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit. Praesent imperdiet a massa rutrum porta. In enim diam, venenatis semper maximus accumsan, auctor non tortor. Morbi bibendum massa erat, non facilisis purus pellentesque vitae. Aliquam erat volutpat. Etiam ultricies odio felis, nec aliquam massa sollicitudin eget. Quisque tincidunt ut arcu sed tincidunt. Quisque consequat vel velit eget convallis. Quisque elementum et orci at placerat. Proin leo dolor, aliquam et efficitur ut, maximus non e… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/01/23 08:41 AM |
| 3 | The reality is that a lot of women know how to avoid and recognize toxic men, but a lot of men cannot tell a healthy woman from a toxic one.Wait, be careful, because when you go on rants like that you are assuming that as a girl I don’t put effort into anything and hoe around and wait for Prince Charming to save me Thats a non sequitor from the points i made. You may well be putting effort into many things but you absolutely dont need to in order to lock down a great guy aside from basic hygiene. I can concede that there are still some women (of which this pool is ever shrinking who believe they need to gym more or do makeup to get … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/23 12:50 PM |
| 2 | The reality is that a lot of women know how to avoid and recognize toxic men, but a lot of men cannot tell a healthy woman from a toxic one.You are not literally dying from actual thirst Lonelyness and stress is corrosive as a woman you have never and will never be able to understand how damaging the knowledge that as a sexual and romantic being your market value is 0. Completely unwanted excpet in some theoretical "well there's someome for everyone" platitude. There's a reason men are the ones who usually settle for the first "bite" they get and are usually not the ones to terminate a relationship or marriage. You aren’t in a deser… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/23 11:26 AM |
| 1 | Q4W: You wake up a man, how long would it take you to have casual sex and how do you go about itLmao | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/23 11:09 AM |
| 2 | Men don't value commitment as much of women because experience with women, not fearProbably because to them commitment extends to the long term. And isn't constantly permeated with " but could i do better" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/23 11:05 AM |
| – | Newbie Question: Why did Pick Up Artistry become more right wing?Im kind of stunned to see this coming from someone who identifies as feminist. Happily stunned though id imagine you wouldn't want to espouse these views around other self identifying feminists | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/23 11:00 AM |
| 6 | How are there enough high value men for all of the women who feel entitled to them?“woman have high standards and refuse to settle”, Until they are late 20s and running out of options Thats the frustration its a not a damned if you damned if you don't scenario unless you remove enough context That being said men must be like women overall average and by proxy of courtship practices this means decent men are abundant and easy to get for nearly all women in the west so they have 0 incentive to for a moment contemplate any male frustrations in dating so its a moot point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/23 10:57 AM |
| 2 | A growing number of women these days act like actual incelsunder age teen boys, criminals, drug dealers, bums, rock stars that just got done fucking 10 other women This only happens if they are attractive and have confidence Also I know this is probably an oversight on your part but they arent "sleeping with" underage teen boys they are raping them. Better to call it what it is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/23 10:47 AM |
| -1 | Women should definitely be shamed for settlingActing like someone's romantic partner choice has the same importance as what someone eats for one meal is an asinine comparison. He didn't thoug. like seriously your not supposed to take analogies litteraly and verbatim like one is learning English for the first time in their life. But if you really need a culinary analog to extrapolate from his analogy. Imagine the women in question keeps choosing steaks and 5 star meals but somehow cant vet the chef and gets food poisoning then when those 5 s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/23 10:36 AM |
| 2 | This is why women have become more choosy (from the perspective of studies and experiments).I don't know what kind of women you've been talking to (probably haven't been talking to any), but I can assure you, this is not how most women approach dating. Generic dipshit insult Red Pillers might consider older women unattractive, the rest of us men don't The stats of who men approach online directly contradict tos nut ok (and thankfully we outnumber you guys in the real world), Wouldn't be so sure about that redpill like concepts and wisdom regarding woman have been around since forever a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/23 07:22 PM |
| 2 | This is why women have become more choosy (from the perspective of studies and experiments).And if women don't find 80% of men attractive, kindly explain how well over 20% of straight men in the world are partnered. These two things arent mutually exclusive eventually many men get settled for as woman age and are forced to reevaluate their standards and make heavy compromises if they want a relationship | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/23 01:00 PM |
| 1 | What do men in age gap relationships have to offer the women besides money?I built up my income but more importantly my body. 6 years is plenty of time to Make tons of connections have a big consistent sociao network that signals social proof to women Learn psychology and apply it to your interactions/courtship. Gain tons of social experience find what works best with women of varying types rinse and repeat. Surround yourself with men who are already succesful with younger women emulate them and incorporate succesful behaviors into your own personality. Most importantl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/23 11:43 AM |
| 1 | RP men what is your age and what is the age range of women you’d be willing to *seriously* date?Mid 20s id go as young as 19 and as old as 2 years older than me | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/01/23 05:58 AM |
| 1 | The importance of teen love is underrated.That doesn't really contradict what I said. I never specified the reason why women were less bothered mate. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/01/23 05:54 AM |
| 1 | The importance of teen love is underrated.Why resentment? Beyond young adulthood it's just as hard for women to find men who love them for who they are No. Examine the gender distribution of dating events. Online dating app usage and of dating coach/program subscriptions the men win every time in sheer force of numbers. It doesn't get harder for woman they just are less bothered by being single. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/23 10:41 AM |
| 3 | Men being sexually lucky later in life could make them resentful or too skeptical for loveyet most people get laid, have dates, have relationships, have marriages that (at least at the start) involve two people who are mutually attracted to one another. Most men eventually have dates relationships and sex because women age and realize they can't all have the 20% of men who actually got to date and have sex (more than once ever 2-3 years) if at that. Nothing here validates the idea that men without looks money or status are enjoying companionship sex or love. Only that a large portion… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/23 10:37 AM |
| 1 | Do young men care if they're fetishized for their youth?He said young men not children Bruh | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/23 06:38 AM |
| 2 | Men on this sub are obsessed with young women because of rejection wounds, not biologyYounger women are just in my experience more forward with older men who have and this parts important. Alsp statistically less likely too have traumas and baggage which is a massive plus 😁 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/23 03:32 AM |
| – | A woman’s autonomy and freedom over who she lets put their sex organ inside her sex organ trumps men’s feelings and mental well being EVERY SINGLE TIMELegal Restrictions on sex aren't nessecary the issue is we live in a culture where the idea of criticizing someone for their choices openly is taboo? Want men to be invested/productive in society to the same degree? Then you cant Have an endless pleasure carousel where only the top 20% of men get anything better than bitterly settled for. Society is already atomized and online. So long as things remain as they are men and women will continue to diverge socially and politically. That's not a mora… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/23 06:31 PM |
| 4 | What self improvement does manosphere offer to men that fitness, finance, fashion, social skills, etc communities do not?Its way more than just r/theredpill look outside reddit for a moment fam 🤣. It's because the redpill is blossoming in areas where it can reach the most people! YouTube tiktok twitter. I used to work after school and would overhear a lot of the high schoolers (guys) discussing RP concepts. Its popular because it both provides a framework to become more attractive and also to navigate the difficulties of interacting with women in a sexual/romantic context. But it focuses on the male perspective. J… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/23 06:24 PM |
| 1 | Men's anger towards women is misplaced: it should be towards other better menCheif keef? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/23 11:12 PM |
| 0 | Men's anger towards women is misplaced: it should be towards other better menThe man had to be so much more and do so much more to have the "privilege" of out competing me in this scenario. The woman just had to exist. Why would i hold any contempt for the man hes just trying to struggle through a dating market that is optimized for what woman want. Men should realize a woman wanting the best is for herself is perfectly fine - who wouldn't want the best partner, career, life for themselves?? And they have much easier access to the best for them they just are unwilling to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/23 09:28 PM |
| 4 | Are men really struggling to get sex/relationships in real life?100% yes women hold their partners to the standards of people they arent and then are suprised when their partners are their own people rather than what they thought they "deserved" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/23 01:36 PM |
| 12 | Are men really struggling to get sex/relationships in real life?Most ??men?? This would be highly exaggerated even if you said a few men. Men are constantly desiring and pursuing women on their level and below. So long as the women isint extremely ugly or extremely unstable or incredibly hard to reach men will be desiring them romantically. The only women who dont get that privilege are trans women and some women living in cultures with very strongly enforced traditions on arranged marriages. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/23 12:13 PM |
| 3 | Are men really struggling to get sex/relationships in real life?I mean sure but blackmail implies both parties are aware of the consequences of something happening. It seems he's just decided he doesn't have any interest in living alone for the rest of his life While I dont agree with it as personal choice but i can sympathize. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/23 11:47 AM |
| 22 | Are men really struggling to get sex/relationships in real life?Relative to womens ability to get it sure. Men are the ones planning and intiating the courtship movinf conversations along. Suffering the burden of performance to be funny entertaining / engaging to be considered as well as improving their looks status resources while women donr need to do any of this remotely at the same level All of this and male sexlessness is still rising. It is somewhat mitigated by the fact that after all that usaully fruitless struggle many men being for the time "good e… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/23 11:43 AM |
| 6 | Are men really struggling to get sex/relationships in real life?I'm not talking about pressure on you. So if you're in a relationship with a woman and it doesn't work, you're going to die as a result? Wow, that's a LOT of pressure to put on another person. It's also a HUGE amount of emotional blackmail. What a collasally uncharitable take. I highly doubt the upper poster has told his SO any of this. If he did however.. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/23 11:20 AM |
| 5 | Are men really struggling to get sex/relationships in real life?I know your man but this really sounds like a woman extrapolating the standards she has to fufill to men. If only it were that simple 🤣 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/23 11:18 AM |
| 19 | Are men really struggling to get sex/relationships in real life?Most long term couples are looks matched this doesn't mean that women primarily desire a relationship with a man on their level it only means they will eventually settle into s relationship with one as time goes on and they get older. Longer lasting relationships eventually make up.the majority of relationship for obvious reasons. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/23 11:16 AM |
| 1 | Am I the only one on r/PurplePillDebate that doesn't hate this sub?I definitely dont hate this sub. It allows me to vent my frustrations and feel validation and comeodery but also to butt heads with people every now and then. I have met a few dickheads and one crazy but aside from that its been pleasent to read and participate in discourse. I just dont have the time to make and attend to my own posts anymore. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/23 03:03 AM |
| 4 | Am I the only one on r/PurplePillDebate that doesn't hate this sub?You arent wrong. One of the things i learned here is you can Make anyone agree with almost anything about a group they dont like if you paint the outgroup as 100% in the wrong. Regardless of who is right | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/23 03:00 AM |
| 4 | Analysis Paralysis and the Anxiety of Failure in Red Pill Menwho discuss complicated subjects about women as if they are scholars on the subject of female psychology. Yet they have hardly set out on their journey. No individual should know this level of detail such as hypergamy, or AWALT etc. to such a degree. Why not go out into the world and put the learning to the test? Bit by bit things would fall into place instead of claiming that women do x or y from one's armchair, (which is all anecdotal at best) as concrete evidence without testing. Redpill chan… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/23 02:51 AM |
| 1 | Would you marry a woman making significantly more than you?but there is no real financial risk though, right ? That sounds like a good deal to me. As far as the relationship ending ??? As far as the relationship ending, this can always happen. Im cool with the temporary nature of things in life. Most people desire longevity in their relationships that shouldnt just be valued because "everything is temporary" I don't think that in reality your as flippant about longevity when it comes to choosing positive things in your life that will last. When Dating. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/23 02:40 AM |
| 9 | Guys who are red pill on here, would you be red pill if you were attractive and could get any woman you wanted?Im also 6'5, 230lbs, 12% body fat, own my own business, am a top 1% earner, and have a large social network and friend group. so you can decide if someone of my stats can "actually get laid" Based | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/23 10:38 PM |
| 1 | Reason why women can stay single easily is because sex is easy for themthat's why most women are not beating down the door to hook up with strange men... Yet the reverse is certainly true so id say being used sexually is certainly fufillling for many men as that's better than nothing for them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/23 10:26 PM |
| 0 | Would you marry a woman making significantly more than you?No because not because of any personal feelings of inadequacy but because the numbers are not in my favor. Women are more likely to terminate relationships/marriages when they are making more money than their partners. The reality is women are dating men who make somewhat less than them not because resources and status dont matter greatly to women but because they are outpeforming men in higher education by a significant margin and therefore are forced into a position where there is a shrinking … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/23 10:23 PM |
| 0 | Reason why women can stay single easily is because sex is easy for thembeing used for resources is fundamentally different. Resources are independent of "you" When someone gets used for their body they still have the knowledge that they or at least something practically inseparable from them their physical body is desirable and therefore they are as well. Money is extrensic to a person the entirety of the person is bypassable and just an obstacle to get some separate thing. Ergo the man has no intrinsic value in this scenario only something completely separable fro… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/23 09:47 PM |
| 2 | Reason why women can stay single easily is because sex is easy for themYoud think but lots of people who get casual sex still feel very unwanted, just used and unwanted. It isint comparible. Many men would give a lot to simply be used the way those people are for many men thats litteraly the best they could do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/23 08:04 PM |
| 12 | Do too many “unpaired” men cause societal instability?Boo hoo these men aren't generating profits for me! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/23 06:53 AM |
| 11 | Do too many “unpaired” men cause societal instability?Men who dont even the prospects of partnership or the ability to raise a family have no incentives to adhere to the status quo or societal norms as they are in the current system relegated to their lack of opportunity. Property ownership and having children (two things that are both correlated with and much easier when partnered ) both lead to people becoming more conservative as they age. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/23 06:51 AM |
| 7 | Reason why women can stay single easily is because sex is easy for themEven still It is monumentally more fulfilling than the knowledge that you are completely unwanted by essentially anyone until you are able to modify your personal/looks enough to make up for being in a male body. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/23 06:44 AM |
| 2 | When is being vulnerable/open too much for a man dating a woman?If you are that afraid of showing weakness in front of her, then why not just break up. Because thats not a legitimate enough criteria for breaking up. Also it comes with the territory of dating a woman. You clearly don't trust her and feel comfortable with her to the point of expressing sadness in your lowest moments, No one trusts their partner wholly and completely this is a fantasy. Why do you insist that trusting a partner to act positively when you stress out is some heavenly decider of re… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/23 09:27 AM |
| 2 | Men Have to Change in Order to Get Women, but Women Don'tTaking part in love and sex being wanted and validated in that way is a fundamental human need/want. Men who are going without are in every right to focus on pursuing what they want and putting themselves first. They werent garunteed those things by being born with a 🐱 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/23 04:31 AM |
| 2 | Men Have to Change in Order to Get Women, but Women Don'tThe dating market determines your value. Men respond to incentives lifting weights will get them 😺. They can focus on being a better partner later if they want too and its their choice to do so. They were probably fine as is and simply failing because they werent attractive | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/23 10:15 AM |
| 4 | Men Have to Change in Order to Get Women, but Women Don'texcept it's eating boiled chicken and lifting things instead of doing anything actually heroic or beneficial to literally anyone but themselves. Women are out here trying to convince men that doing a charity run will make them more attractive than actually looking more attractive 🤡. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/23 10:12 AM |
| 1 | Childfree culture is a hiccup due to the recent invention of birth control and will disappear in a few hundred yearsTrue | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/23 10:02 AM |
| 6 | This is how women will behave once the fembot girlfriend technology is out.Thats an interesting observation | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/23 04:40 PM |
| 1 | White women are the most, by far, privileged group of people in Western societyI agree but that in no way gives any credence to the idea that black men are sexualized more than black women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/22 11:09 PM |
| 6 | How do women tolerate getting complimented all day? It sounds horrible and oppressive. Men wouldn’t last a day.Because they're scared of what will happen if they do. Those women and those women alone are responsible for their own emotional state. If the existence of a larger person causes them that levels of fear they can take it up with their therapist. Men cannot reach into their minds and change this. Nor are they under any obligation to do so. If someone can overpower you, they're a physical threat. You mean the potential to be a threat right? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/22 07:36 PM |
| 2 | How do women tolerate getting complimented all day? It sounds horrible and oppressive. Men wouldn’t last a day.Im gonna go off on a limb and say your probably not half as bad looking as you think you are | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/22 07:17 PM |
| 13 | How do women tolerate getting complimented all day? It sounds horrible and oppressive. Men wouldn’t last a day.That's because they don't give creepy "compliments" Why because their women? and they're not physically threatening. By virtue of being larger than you? Or by actually physically threatening you. And they don't feed into horrible ideas that have been shoved down your throat all your life. Men have no control over what ideas you believe | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/22 07:16 PM |
| 2 | It makes no sense how men can do everything right yet suffer like animals. Female doesn't realize how painful it is.Why not change your personality and incorporate/emulate the behaviors of the men these women are pursuing? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/22 06:01 PM |
| 2 | It's insane how the other gender refuses to recognize their privilege.Lmao you can fufill none of these things have a shit personality and still drink your fill of love dating and sexual experiences. Men's standards are irrelevant because all but the top men have no bargaining power in the dating market. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/22 05:57 PM |
| 7 | How do women tolerate getting complimented all day? It sounds horrible and oppressive. Men wouldn’t last a day.Your claimed experiences are highly atypical for most peoppe of your biological sex. Its not a weird question. But I am deeply curious | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/22 05:53 PM |
| 14 | How do women tolerate getting complimented all day? It sounds horrible and oppressive. Men wouldn’t last a day.That wouldn't change much. I'm still happy to recieve a complement from grandma doesn't change if shes middle aged. Any female validation feels nice. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/22 05:52 PM |
| 2 | How do women tolerate getting complimented all day? It sounds horrible and oppressive. Men wouldn’t last a day.Were here if you need support man 🤣 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/22 05:49 PM |
| 5 | How do women tolerate getting complimented all day? It sounds horrible and oppressive. Men wouldn’t last a day.I’m obese and wear shitty clothes. I am not good looking. Then....how are you getting catcalled....... Presumably this is just on the street so you can't default to claiming its personality or some other nonsense. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/22 05:48 PM |
| 18 | How do women tolerate getting complimented all day? It sounds horrible and oppressive. Men wouldn’t last a day.Man's got upend his whole career and life to get catcalled lmao | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/22 05:44 PM |
| 6 | White women are the most, by far, privileged group of people in Western societyWhat an excellent source. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/22 05:43 PM |
| 9 | White women are the most, by far, privileged group of people in Western societyNo racial group of men are serialized more then any racial group of women. Black men are simply sexualized/objectified more then other types of men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/22 05:41 PM |
| 2 | The dating market will never be equalized. A fit and financially stable man has no choice nowadays but to settle for an STD-ridden, hedonistic, narcissistic, broken and prematurely post-wall mess.He spent all his time betabuxxing and not once NOT ONCE Did he pick up heavy objects and put them down. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/22 05:28 PM |
| 6 | It's insane how the other gender refuses to recognize their privilege.Ah but this privilege doesn't exist because after a decade of sexual/romantic irrelevance/poverty a woman might finnaly settle for them at 28 when many options are drying up after and then they walk in wallmart together! Thus disproving gender imbalances in who has the power in dating! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/22 05:16 PM |
| 1 | It's insane how the other gender refuses to recognize their privilege.80% of dating app users are male. And why do you think their is a 80/20 split on dating apps | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/22 05:12 PM |
| 16 | Start a family with fat girl or marry a single mom?Eh, what I find hilarious is that the women are unattractive and lack feminity and they still have more sex than the loser men do, and I bet the red pillers and black pillers are super pissed off Thats not an accomplishment when your dating life is hard carried by the fact that you have a 😺 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/22 04:35 AM |
| 1 | A Classic Among ClassicsI litteraly didn't mention bbw until someone else brought it up lmao | /r/AllPillDebate | 30/12/22 01:25 AM |
| 1 | A Classic Among ClassicsFetishes are outliers and the majority of people are able to orgasm without fixating on a non-sexual activity or non-sexual item. There are mutiple definitions of the term fetish that encompass both a strong desire for something in alternative to a need for it in terms of sexual gratification so I wouldnt settle with that. If you’re referring to kinks, BBW isn’t even in the top 20 most searched porn, which you can find in another thread here. And? Do you think that because BBW isn't in the top 2… | /r/AllPillDebate | 29/12/22 11:37 PM |
| 3 | The whole “Women reward bad guys with sex” complaint isnt just misogynistic. It’s misandranistic too.Not only are these examples of toxic masculinity (such as enforcing the toxic belief that a man’s value stems from how much sex he’s getting)hese statements dont reinforce that belief. if the feedback is sex, and the action is be a "bad guy", the woman positively reinforced being a bad guy.” “Men want sex badly enough that their personalities and desires will be molded around whatever gets them more of it.” “One of the reasons the red pill is so popular is because men don't virtue signal or pret… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/22 11:29 PM |
| 1 | i don't advice it butI remember reading somewhere that most trans people date other trans or amab types so i dont think this would be as viable as you intially might think | /r/AllPillDebate | 29/12/22 11:01 PM |
| 1 | A Classic Among ClassicsHow are you going to seriously come here and claim fetishes are (outliers) in any respect. The majority of people have at least some fetishes and of course this is going to influence their behavior. Do you believe people have uniform taste? | /r/AllPillDebate | 29/12/22 10:59 PM |
| 1 | A Classic Among ClassicsBoth of those things are common knowledge, commonly watched and commonly referenced in rp circles. Nothing new under the sun | /r/AllPillDebate | 29/12/22 06:57 PM |
| 1 | A Classic Among ClassicsI dont really care if they do or donr but if they do the natrual consequence of this is that men will become much more deceptive and practiced in such and more objectifying of women. Since humans respond to incentives. | /r/AllPillDebate | 29/12/22 02:17 PM |
| 5 | A Classic Among ClassicsShit that's a good point I didn't consider | /r/AllPillDebate | 29/12/22 02:01 PM |
| 1 | A Classic Among ClassicsBelow average women really be using dating apps getting inundated with attention and then telling men this doesnt happen. As if people cant make fake profiles and test this out for themselves. Can they get dates with the top dudes? Not often but they don't need to lower their standards for them either. | /r/AllPillDebate | 29/12/22 02:00 PM |
| 2 | A Classic Among ClassicsThey're being realistic about what they can get and being open to lowering their standards. | /r/AllPillDebate | 29/12/22 01:53 PM |
| 9 | A Classic Among ClassicsHow many ugly women do you men follow on social media? How many ugly women are you searching for in porn and seeking out in film and other media? None and that doesn't make them hypocrites because they are still pursing unnatractive women for relationships in real life. The reverse is not true. Even still the standard for what an "ugly" girl is is pretty low a 3/10 can still have many simps following her that would want to date her. I also think the comparison is really odd. Men are hypocrites f… | /r/AllPillDebate | 29/12/22 01:47 PM |
| 2 | You can’t love her that much if you think she should be happy with unremarkable and average (you)This feels like one of those bent posts where a woman forces a partner to let her be poly then gets dumped when he finds another mono girl and then she bitches about it on reddit dot com. Upset that men are putting themselves first OP? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/12/22 08:35 AM |
| 2 | You can’t love her that much if you think she should be happy with unremarkable and average (you)You can't just shift the definition of truelly loving someone to gain some dubious moral high grind. You can love someone deeply but love yourself more. Enough for you to prioritize yourself first. This doesn't mean forgoing your partners needs. It just means loving yourself enough to fuck yourself over romantically. Also its its contradictory if she stops being your partner you probably will cease loving her as she loses romantiv and sexual relevance in your life. You conflate a lot of concepts… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/12/22 08:32 AM |
| 2 | For red pillers, what blue pill opinion do you hold? And for blue pillers, what red pill opinions do you hold?I think the "enjoy the decline" mentality is men basically acknowledging they have virtually every burden/responsibility in dating assigned to them. Rejecting all of that and doing what women do pursuing whats right for them first and foremost the consequences be damned for the most part. Men are already the ones at the bottom of the totem pole in the dating market and in terms of being valued as human brings if anyonr they owe society the least. That being said if you do happen upon a woman wit… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/12/22 08:19 AM |
| 7 | Do women have their own version of “self improvement”?Would you say its more for dating stuff or just how to live better/enjoy lufe more. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/12/22 06:12 PM |
| 7 | Women would do better in dating if they involved the men in their family with mate selectionThere are plenty of women who have good reason not to be close with their parents this doesnt make them dangerous folk | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/22 01:23 AM |
| 1 | What opinions are you tired of hearing here and what dismissals are you tired of hearing?Questions How many women do you know that approached their current partners? And do you believe that despite mens compliants about having to bear the burden of courtship that they would not greatly appreciate forward women. What societal changes do you think would take women to approach significantly more. (Half the male population dieing doesn't count 🤣) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/22 01:21 AM |
| 2 | Are black Woman truly the bottom of the barrelNo black men in paticular have horrendous prospest and support compared to black women in universities. Its bad enough that even scholarships and special programs for black men in university arent contested as being unfair/sexist because even the very gynocentric cant deny how hard the education system is chronically failing black men. | /r/AllPillDebate | 23/12/22 01:18 AM |
| 2 | Red Pill ClarificationThe number of women capabale of overriding that instinct is anyones guess but the number willing to do so is borderline non existent. RP is about recognizing this and using its mechanics to your advantage. Be on your self improvement grind. Stop going to your partner for emotional labor and instead go to your male friends. Up your money game and especially muscles that way your relationship is secure and if things still go to shit and you fall prey to a woman moment youll find yourself in a good… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/22 08:55 PM |
| 3 | Is it unethical for men to purposely seek out women with less life and relationship experience than them? Why?Because women always want more more more and men are not at all obligated to pursue women who offer sky high demands while bringing relatively little to the table. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/22 08:50 PM |
| 1 | CMV: People can criticize any and all preferences whenever they wantWhat you want and what you'll eventually accept given certain circumstances are not the same. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/22 08:47 PM |
| 3 | OLD is to real life dating what e-commerce is to shopping malls.The analogy works if you considet industries where employees are numerous and therefore without value or bargaining power. Whereass employers have their pick of the litter. I guess the primary difference is the employer at least in theory had to put in effort to get to their position of power. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/22 08:27 PM |
| 5 | Are black Woman truly the bottom of the barrelThe title of your posf is definitely going to be screenshotted as evidence that non bluepill types are racist lmao. Idk I’m biased as a black woman but it seems like black woman are at the bottom of the dating scene For women yes. I'd agree it seems to me as if they have the hardest time amongst all women of finding men. Most men of color are not attracted to black woman and most black men are self hating as hell and only like light skin or nowadays only white woman I'm really curious what makes… | /r/AllPillDebate | 22/12/22 09:15 AM |
| 1 | Attractiveness doesn’t exist in a vacuum. So if most men are unattractive to most women then most men ARE below averageYou can have 80% of people be below an average if the people above 20% are that much higher in whatever value is being measured | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/22 05:34 AM |
| 1 | What reasons would you NOT date a fellow PPD user?Nah im a perfect human who never makes mistakes 🤓😎 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/22 02:55 AM |
| 33 | What opinions are you tired of hearing here and what dismissals are you tired of hearing?Any of this shit men and women put in equal amounts effort to find partners. Like god shut the fuck up. Women will pick and choose from 7 guys all of which had to impress and court her and think having to choose which one out of their options they want the most is some type of struggles most of womens options are "crap" despite most men and women being average being average. This neccesarily implies the average women is a much better partner then the average man. In reality compared to even high… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/22 11:20 PM |
| 1 | Don’t expect women to care about men’s “sexual needs” when women are shamed and dehumanized for satisfying those ‘needs’ by men.Men be trying to pump and dump females since the females were 12. Nowhere did anyone advocate for grown adults dating 12 years olds????? Did I miss a comment or something 😬 Dehumanizing people is what criminals and sociopaths do to rationalize their awful behavior. It isn't dehumanizing to explain your going to have to work on your personality if you want relationships with people. We tell it to men all the time. “Well, she was asking to be attacked by those men. What a whore.” “Well, those men … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/22 06:44 PM |
| 2 | Artificial wombs are the only way to achieve gender equality with everyone preserving their freedoms.You have the right to grow a baby in your own uterus (assuming someone consents to cum inside you/donate sperm). Genetic disorders or not, to try and stop you from doing so would be a violating your bodily autonomy. Why is that bodily autonomy takes precedence over condeming a child to immense suffering You don’t have the right to have someone else grow a baby for you. Because again, to force someone to do so would violate THEIR bodily autonomy. The topic was artificial wombs. No ones bodily aut… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/22 05:55 PM |
| 0 | Artificial wombs are the only way to achieve gender equality with everyone preserving their freedoms.I appreciate your exceptionaly egalitarian views on the topic. Its a breath of fresh air Usually these conversations are full of gendered self interest on about sides and people afraid of loosing power over the other. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/22 05:32 PM |
| 2 | Artificial wombs are the only way to achieve gender equality with everyone preserving their freedoms.So do women who suffer more during reproduction deserve more reproductive access then women who dont suffer as much. Since thats the metric your using. Or does the presence of a penis change that calculus | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/22 05:30 PM |
| 1 | Don’t expect women to care about men’s “sexual needs” when women are shamed and dehumanized for satisfying those ‘needs’ by men.Ladies, if you’re not good enough, he’ll just want sex from you and leave Also, if you “with hold sex” from men, you’ll never get men to want you.” This is just complaining about the fuckzone. (Which is valid) but if your only encountering men who only want you for your body and wont commit thats because you don't have anything else to offer to the type of men your shooting for. Its beyond easy to find a partner of similar life circumstances who will commit to you as a woman. Stop listening to m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/22 05:27 PM |
| 1 | Artificial wombs are the only way to achieve gender equality with everyone preserving their freedoms.There were hundreds of comments by women talking about how much this was still unfair to them, that they're the only ones needing to take hormones to control reproduction. It sounds like their only motivation was not wanting to have the shoulder the negative consequences of birth control. Did any of them at least pay lip service to the idea that men would have more reproductive autonomy/agency? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/22 04:57 PM |
| 3 | Artificial wombs are the only way to achieve gender equality with everyone preserving their freedoms.Hit the gym, develop conversation skills, crack open a book from time to time so you’d have something nice to say, develop an interest and take good care of your hygiene, you’ll see that this “independence” and desire for “top tier guys” isn’t as black and white as you’d think. He could easily be doing all of this and still fail because he isint exuding confidence or natrually charismatic. The development of thia technology would shake the game up and be a good thing overall | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/22 04:53 PM |
| 3 | Artificial wombs are the only way to achieve gender equality with everyone preserving their freedoms.i disagree with the concept that reproduction is this godgiven right that everyone should have access to. How much effort into controlling mens usage of it would you attempt to exert to ensure they did not have the same reproductive opportunites/autonomy thatg women have. The idea of doing this to women is unthinkable even women with mutiple heritable genetic diseases are allowed to reproduce without any outside say despite how reckless and selfish of an act this is towwrds the child. I feel lil… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/22 04:51 PM |
| 1 | What is more important in the relationship market, freedom or responsibility?You've said mutiple things that have implied that. Why are you editing your comments and adding arguments so late after posting them? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/22 06:13 AM |
| 3 | Q4M—Why don’t you just opt out?Because i realized that i was privileged with enough to be able to succeed in the dating market if i put in enough work. I was tall and supposedly good looking (id contest that) and apperantly had a wonderful personality women would be lucky to have as a partner at least as far as my AFAB friends would tell me? Did any of that make a difference? Fuck no What made a difference was commiting to hitting the gym frequently. Suddenly i went from struggling to abundance and firmly believe that most me… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/22 05:49 AM |
| 1 | What is more important in the relationship market, freedom or responsibility?It's an idea, though. That's my point. It's an idea that is not genetically transmitted. We've covered this already. There could be an explosion of antinatalists at any time if the idea becomes popular. Maybe climate change irrevocably fucks up the earth and people choose to not bring more people onto the planet. Maybe there's a horrific world war and people abstain from making more humans to suffer through it. By extension of this the people who do have kids are likely to be those with more of … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/22 05:36 AM |
| 1 | What is more important in the relationship market, freedom or responsibility?No I'm implying that anti natalist beliefs will become increasingly less common and less relevant in the coming centuries a problem can be self correcting in the form of being completely solved or in miminizing its effects. But sorry if the statement was confusing I'll edit the OP | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/22 05:08 AM |
| 1 | What is more important in the relationship market, freedom or responsibility?No and there is 0 reason for you to reasonably take that away from anything ive said. I feel like your really really minimizing how much of our beliefs and choices are formed by our parents. If the topic was not anti natalism i dont think you wouldn't be trying to minimize this nearly as hard. Have you heard of the concept of memetics before. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/22 05:02 AM |
| 3 | Modern society kinda shows why virtually all historical civilizations were Patriarchal.The purpose is context and nuance. If you gloss over all history and all civilizations as patriarchal then you miss the details. Wu Zetian ruled as empress over China from 665 to 705. Is that society Matriarchal now? If not, why? No patriarchal societys are when women are mostly excluded from posistions of power in a society. A female emporer can still rule over a patriarchal society where women have less social mobility then men. Most emperors were men but i get what your saying its not all enc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/22 02:30 AM |
| 1 | What is more important in the relationship market, freedom or responsibility?The other person in the thread is trying to argue that my post insists that beliefs are genetic and when you teach your kids about having kids of your own one day thats not the oral tradition because its not like idk a fucking yoruba child's tale or whatever they think has to qualify. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/22 10:33 PM |
| 1 | What is more important in the relationship market, freedom or responsibility?Antinatalism isn't a fucking "oral tradition" any more than any other abstract concept or idea. Concepts arent oral traditions transmission of concepts are. Please just use google . It is a philosophy that exists in the world. Every person who exists in the world has a potential to be exposed to it and become an antinatalist. Dude is seriously pretending that like adults dont heavily influence and pass down beliefs ideas and concepts to their children. Since you clearly didnt read the definition… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/22 10:17 PM |
| 1 | What is more important in the relationship market, freedom or responsibility?Antinatalism is not genetic. Every antinatalist came from a natalist. Yes Obviously But they are considerably less likely to succesfully transmit the meme (idea) of anti natalism to members of the generation because they are not raising children of their own. C,mon bro you know what the oral tradition is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/22 08:07 AM |
| 0 | What is more important in the relationship market, freedom or responsibility?Popular cultural opinion on the topic will never move in the direction of a "responsibility" based perception on women for maintaining the birthrate so this is a moot point. This is what we have to work with. Your body your compete choice your complete responsibility. If the birthrate falls it falls. I understand the OP is contemplating the merits of a responsibility based ethos but the absolute closest we could feasibly do without backlash is some responsibility based ethos shafted onto men. Th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/22 12:14 AM |
| 2 | Monogamy is often rooted in a fear of rejection/insecurityShe has much more skin in the game and exclusivity means security. Exclusivity also feels great. Knowing a person only is commited to one person makes the fact that they chose you to be that person to be you so much more special. All that skin in the game means we are challenged to accommodate each others needs and wants because we arent going to other people to fufill our romantic needs. Also dating someone who is polyamorous garuntees more uncertainty by virtue of their being mutiple actors wi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/22 04:39 PM |
| 3 | Monogamy is often rooted in a fear of rejection/insecurityFor example, a lot of men are realizing the "benefits" of having traditionally virgin wives. They believe virgin wives are less of a threat to their ego and security because they typically come with less sexual trauma. Its nothing to do with ego and more to do with partner quality. Less partners means on average less relationship traumas / less baggage They believe a woman who has no one to compare them to sexually will appreciate them more in the bedroom. Well this is technically true if they d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/22 04:30 PM |
| 2 | What arouses you about your partner?She's dominant as fuck | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/22 01:47 PM |
| 2 | Trad Wife TourismPeople who are more educated are going to on average have more money and more opportunities for social mobility so it follows their standards would increase from this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/22 10:10 AM |
| -1 | Their is no incentive to date as a manIm saying you can ask to hang out go on a date with a woman your not romantically interested and if she accepts you can maybe have a friendship if you want too. Worst case scenario you decide you dont want to be friends either and you still got experience asking women out | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/22 10:00 AM |
| 1 | Their is no incentive to date as a manLife isn't fair and you don't owe anyone a relationship. Your one of tons of men asking for a date and people are allowed to change their mind on wanting to go on dates for any arbitrary reason. Do you think anyone is going to enpathize with you complaining that a girl who seemed decided to change her mind after? No they will tell you to respect and not question the women's decision But you admitted that your struggling with this. If you still feel weird about it you can always decide if you wan… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/22 09:35 AM |
| 3 | Question for conservative men: Would you ever raise another man's child?I wouldn't say I'm conservative (maybe by nordic standards so ill use that as an excuse to answer. But no Children are a hard deal breaker for me. If a woman has a child that child is always going to be a logistical nightmare for any plans and will drain energy time resources ect. Obviously this is as it should be. Still the fact remains it would reduce my quality of life and all ill get out of it is a more complicated less fufilling relationship. Let's say i was infertile that changes things we… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/22 08:50 AM |
| 3 | Trad Wife TourismPersonally, I'm kind of disgusted by it. One thing is to travel somewhere and just fall in love with sb, the other to travel to some country on purpose to find a trad wife, because you think it's going to be easier there. Whats wrong with going to a place where you think youll have much better chances of finding a partner that you actually want ro he with? Presumably your only concern is what the women wants/gets out of it. If shes happy with her man why does it matter that he went to her countr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/22 08:14 AM |
| 2 | Their is no incentive to date as a manApproach women you arent attracted to until your more comfortable with making the first move | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/22 07:43 AM |
| 1 | How do people here feel about Ectolife Artificial Womb project?Theres always sureogacy if you have the money. Plus things might change i used to think the exact same thing. Cool if i dm man? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/22 12:41 PM |
| 1 | How do people here feel about Ectolife Artificial Womb project?think we will (youngsters) will embrace the idea of liberating women from child birth risks. Im gen Z and assuming you are too. We will be middle aged at the YOUNGEST by the time this stuff becomes available in North America. Assuming all the regulatory red tape is chopped down in short order. Is technological progress worth losing our humanity and relationships? Yes Brave New World? What say you all? Is technological progress worth losing our humanity and relationships? Do we progress to the po… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/22 12:40 PM |
| 1 | How do people here feel about Ectolife Artificial Womb project?Well many of these reasons (not related to the tech) are why ive decided i dont want any male children. Why would i purposefully taint and jeprodize the future quality of life of my own offspring by suffering them to be born male. I'f you care about their future it makes the most sense that you would select for female fetuses if you are able too. I wouldn't wish maleness on anyone certainly not our loved ones | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/22 12:30 PM |
| 1 | How do people here feel about Ectolife Artificial Womb project?I love the concept. When a technology like this actually does exist it will rip the primacy/ sole control of reproduction from women alone and make it available to everyone regardless of gender. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/22 12:19 PM |
| 1 | looksmatch in 2022Broooo come onnnnnn | /r/AllPillDebate | 13/12/22 08:38 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Men want women more then women want men, and that’s why we don’t care about your standards.Huh, thats kind of weird. Can I ask where they average personality wise or looks wise? My experience with this has been that most women would lay out the standards you described early on so it was easier to filter them out. But just the sheer volume of them. This didnt change until I stopped worrying about my personality and started putting everything into looks. I know find myself in a position where I could ask for a lot of what you described which is why it intuitively feels like attractivene… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/22 08:34 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Men want women more then women want men, and that’s why we don’t care about your standards.I feel like your reading only the most succesful profiles if they have this laundry liat of demands. The average guy on OLD will tell you that this is high standards Mentally stable Not morbidly obese Non abusive Monogamous If you see a guy on OLD with the standards youve described that guy is either delusional or high value enough in the dating market to have demands like that. Either way they will quickly be of OLD. If anything those demands seem closer to what women expect. The only differenc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/22 08:27 PM |
| 1 | How shaken up would relationships be when decline in males born gets critical?he means in his county and he probably lives in the anglosphere. Female infanticide in china is not going to seriously affect the dating prospects of a guy living in canada/the UK of whatever. Lets steelman this and say theres more male immigrantion applications. Governments would be aware of this ans modify their immigration policy accordingly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/22 08:07 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Men want women more then women want men, and that’s why we don’t care about your standards.Most men shoot too high, they have a list of conditions they can't meet themselves What men are you around lmao | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/22 10:55 AM |
| 2 | To love somebody is to feel and believe they are special and one of if not the best people you know. It’s not to be done for the sake of it. It’s not something easily given and not everybody should be loved by another for the sake of fairness of “empathy” to the lovelessI’m sorry but love isn’t some cheap resource you can just give away for the simple reason that “everyone deserves and needs love” That is far from simple its one of the most complex and far reaching truths about humanity. Love is cheap, love is cheaper than an clearly empty promise from mr (to good to be true). Or an onlyfans subscription to some girl who can keep the illusion of commitment going for just a bit longer. Cheaply broken and cheaply attained. We do not live in a world of formless in… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/22 09:58 AM |
| -2 | CMV: Generally speaking, women will only acknowledge men's issues in one or more of three circumstances.It feels like it, ive heard this sentiment from women more often than ive heard admonishment lf the perpetrator | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/22 09:28 AM |
| 2 | What are the types of women "alpha chads" end up with?Usually who ever they want. Since the have the most options they tend to end up with the women are loyal unselfish and caring. The type of women who brings value to a relationship as opposed to just being desirable for being female. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/22 01:02 AM |
| -2 | CMV: Men want women more then women want men, and that’s why we don’t care about your standards.This includes their honesty | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/22 12:53 AM |
| 7 | CMV: Men want women more then women want men, and that’s why we don’t care about your standards.I don't understand the downvotes this is exactly how most women relate to and view men | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/22 12:52 AM |
| -3 | CMV: Men want women more then women want men, and that’s why we don’t care about your standards.Men dont owe you anything either | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/22 12:47 AM |
| 1 | 30 year old virgin. I had 4 dates with a girl who then friend zoned meJesus dude just go the gym so you dont have to worry about this shit. If you become attractive you wont have to the one second guessing or doing all the work to move things forward /be entertaining. Do you think things would of been as hard as they were for you if you looked better? You know the answer | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/22 11:30 PM |
| 1 | To love and be loved and to make love is one of life’s greatest pleasures. Why do you think achieving that shouldn’t be very hard?Thats not necessarily what i was referring too | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/22 07:44 PM |
| 4 | To love and be loved and to make love is one of life’s greatest pleasures. Why do you think achieving that shouldn’t be very hard?Do you feel you should be able to coast through life, be relatively boring, not work on your physique, not work on your finances, not have passion and a developed and interesting personality that’s fun and exciting to be around, and STILL experience love and sex and companionship? Why should you? Because for half of the population this is much much more then they need to do. Do you believe the more enjoyable something is the more a person should suffer for it? Men are not workhorses inequality l… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/22 06:59 PM |
| 2 | This is the best time in human history to be dating.Based and honesty pilled | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/22 10:19 AM |
| 1 | This is the best time in human history to be dating.Only 100 or 200 years ago, the dating life of a man was completely dependent on his social class. This is more pressing the higher up in the class structure you go the lower on the totem poll you where the more the importance of just being able to provide were Now, you can have a great job but if you're socially unpleasant, women won't give you time of the day. You can even have wealth but if you're a weirdo who treats the waiter like shit, a normal woman will be repelled by the man and his beha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/22 10:16 AM |
| 9 | If "men are loyal" and women are opportunistic, how do you explain the concept of "starter girlfriends" and the phenomena of men leaving their SO when they achieve a certain level in life?Men will often leave if their partner isn't putting in the work or is mistreating them. You rarely hear about men leaving their wives when shit gets rough for them. While the alternative seems to be far more common. As for the starter girlfriends. Im not sure but its wording seams to imply premeditated deception rather than a suddenly weakened loyalty. Which is similar to the the first example you brought up. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/22 06:45 AM |
| 0 | Who are the men who consistently date attractive women?The attractive ones. the ones who deeply understand psychology and how to exploit it for their own gain. The natrually charismatic ones and the intersections between these 3 groups. Most of us are not natrually charismatic but the other 2 are achievedable for many. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/22 11:00 AM |
| 0 | Mate choice is not just biologically drivenAsians with short height and less muscle mass won’t be the highly populated set of human race if we were still choosing biologically. We have evolved socially and cognitively. This strongly implies that personal choice is the only selection pressure people faced. If ypur in an environment where those traits are strongly favourable thats going to compete with influence over whatever women happen to fancy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/22 10:57 AM |
| 1 | So here’s a fun little challenge for all the pill people (and non pill people), say something nice about the opposing ideologyNah id say im pretty blackpilled and happy about it. Blackpill doesn't == unsuccessful. If anything it made me kick my ass into gear. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/22 07:29 AM |
| 1 | So here’s a fun little challenge for all the pill people (and non pill people), say something nice about the opposing ideologyThe ideal that bluepill represents is very beautiful a world where gender ie neither a boom nor handicap to ones ability to find love and individuals come to each other as people existing practically outside the cold hard darwinian calculus of the dating market. A world where who someone geniuenly is on the inside matters the most. I think its a very comforting thing to believe and if someone is a in a privileged position in dating it might be better for them to continue believing that as long a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/22 07:26 AM |
| 1 | Mate choice is not just biologically drivenArguably a lot of monogamy in humans is probably more closely related to protection and provisioning of resources for children then it is about sexual desire. Hence why you see a much higher variance in sexual partners for men. Still that doesn't directly refute your statement of Mate choice is not just biologically driven Id just argue that it is misleading. Women may choose mates based on external resources or cultural pressures. When you largely remove those it makes sense that many more men … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/22 07:04 AM |
| 1 | Dating can be harder for women than menGet in the gym, get your money up, go out, start a sport/hobby, make friends, learn skills, approach women, and build confidence. guaranteed you will have many women wanting you. You only have yourself to blame for not doing that. Sure but this claiming you only have yourself in this situation is essentially and admission than men unlike women have no innate value in the dating market. Its also bootstrapy. Plenty of people of disabilities or life circumstances that make many of these things incr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/22 06:51 AM |
| 1 | The double edged sword of high expectations for menBecause so many of the Uber romantic wear your heart on your sleeve kind of guys I've grown up with are now extremely cold and calculating. At least when it comes to dating prospects. Well you kind of have to be. At end if the day. Women dont give a shit about any of this because it doesn't affect them As long as you live and breath on this earth in male skins .thats what your role will be in the dating market. There are relationships where both parties put in equal amounts of effort but they on… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/22 06:07 AM |
| 3 | The double edged sword of high expectations for menThats rediculous where are you seeing women putting similar efforts into dating/courting before things are very long term | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/22 05:50 AM |
| 21 | The average straight woman would be getting no girls if they magically turned into a straight man.Lmaoo you didn't have to deep fry em tho. 💀 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/22 03:05 AM |
| 15 | You get successful by your 40s: would you leave your wife for your dream girl?Because so would the next girl and the next girl.. If's she genuinely a good loving partner and not selfish. Your throwing away a unicorn hoping to find a slightly shiner unicorn. Not worth it imo | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/22 12:53 AM |
| 13 | Lack of interactions with reality destroyed modern dating and created loneliness, not OLD itself.They are describing the bottom 80% of men without extordinary social talent. As for the stacey stuff idk i don't see that as often | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/22 11:23 AM |
| 1 | Redpill just means toxic relationships while Bluepill means healthy relationshipsNothing he said implied that. Your reflexively trying to force this into some niceguy statement. This comes across as projection. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/22 11:17 AM |
| 1 | Sex as a reward is a positive thing because it makes men push themselves to be better in order to get itOk actually I am seeing what your saying and sorry for the hostile assumption. Ppd has jaded me. Here's my thing theae things arent set in stone ideally people would be on equal footing. The strong varience in male sexual success i think only really benefits the top cohort of men. While making things shit for everyone else. Self improvement is good but their's a limit it shouldn't be gendered. Ill use my experience as an example. I am unfortunately male. But i strongly hate every single thing ab… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/22 08:22 PM |
| 2 | Sex as a reward is a positive thing because it makes men push themselves to be better in order to get itI could argue how this is sexist and objectifying to men. But I know you dont care about that. So how about this Women are innately hurt by the concept that sex is something they use as a reward or means to an end rather than an act that they are active enthusiastic participants in with someone they love. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/22 07:49 PM |
| 12 | Where did this idea that younger women make better partners come from?They want people with stability that cherish them. Not an endless list of neurosis demands and headachss Trying to curate a narrarive where this implies they are pedophilic for avoiding woman who got worse with age is pointless and obvious If you spent your younger years getting gutted like a fish and jaded by the actions of the partners you ran threw then yes men are going to avoid you. If you spent your years chasing the bpd party e-girls and now cant relate to normal woman, woman will be more… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/22 07:42 PM |
| 1 | Being the hornier sex (the guy) is such a gigantic weakness for hetero sexual dating dynamics.🥳😘🫂 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/22 07:37 PM |
| 2 | Being the hornier sex (the guy) is such a gigantic weakness for hetero sexual dating dynamics.There are some that are hornier than men but that in my experience tends to come with mental instability that isint worth it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/22 07:18 PM |
| 5 | If "women" were right about "men", would you even admit it?Lmao I knew there had to be a resson to the whole "women stick around longer" shit 🤣🤣🤣 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/22 07:11 PM |
| 1 | If "women" were right about "men", would you even admit it?Even Chad's dick is no good after that. To be fair chads probably not tryna stay after day 3? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/22 07:08 PM |
| 1 | Why do men go out of there way to put down women based on their appearance?Based | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/22 11:56 AM |
| 2 | Women are indeed incredibly complicated to understand.True true but ive seen the "women were about islam" take before so i figure someone might bite. That and i forgot i still had it lmao | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/22 07:33 AM |
| 2 | Women are indeed incredibly complicated to understand.No its a play on another user's flair (who ive forgotten at this point) whos flair said "women were right about Islam" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/22 07:30 AM |
| 1 | How many disagreements here could be understood by just revealing personal experience?Liked just for the last sentence | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/22 07:27 AM |
| 1 | Society wanted to fix "Bad men" instead of women but end up redisigning average men for women as an alternative proposition.What age range would you say good catches tend to get scooped up in. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/22 07:24 AM |
| 2 | Women are indeed incredibly complicated to understand.Lmaooo 🧢🧢🧢🧢 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/22 07:21 AM |
| 1 | Women are indeed incredibly complicated to understand.Damn you out here 🧢in bruh smh. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/22 07:21 AM |
| 1 | A core issue with promiscuity and poligamy is that they are not sustainable.Maybe but i feel like people are more likely to lean on cultural standards of misandry/ bluepiled inruitions to shame those young men back into solitary loveless worker drones. I mean most people are placated by the luxuries they do have and by more conservative leaning cultures that venerate work in of itself as a good thing. Unless the genders were flipped and women started making up the majority of a dangerous shitty jobs the status quo will probably remain. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/22 07:15 AM |
| 3 | Redpillers 'focus on themselves' to get women, thus defeating the pointRedpill isn't about getting women its about avoiding the bullshit that often comes with dating women | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/22 10:39 PM |
| 1 | Men over 30, do you filter out 30 year old women while looking for serious relationships?The variance is skewed. A smaller subset of men massively increase the number. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/22 04:58 PM |
| 9 | Women have more to offer than menExactly! There is no age where the male grind even comes close to the implied value of existing as a woman | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/22 04:37 PM |
| 3 | The idea that women hold off on certain sexual things with a guy because he’s “boyfriend” material is an utter load of crapTrying to frame this in a mechanical or mathematical framework is nothing more than a sad attempt to feel in control over something you couldn’t possibly have control over which is another person’s desires and actions. Very poetic but still wrong. Look at any industry were dealing with people Sales law enforcement public policy mental health ect is involved. somewhere you will see people using knowledge from statistical models and psychology/sociology to their benefit. Because its profitable / e… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/22 03:04 PM |
| 7 | The idea that women hold off on certain sexual things with a guy because he’s “boyfriend” material is an utter load of crapThe problem with men online is they keep trying to make relationships some mathematical When your at a disadvantage you will try and understand the mechanics of something as itnimately as possible to increase your chances . Humans are not magical black boxes acrobatically avoiding all observation. An strong understanding of psychology helps you see the probabilities and notice group behaviors | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/22 06:21 PM |
| -2 | Men over 30, do you filter out 30 year old women while looking for serious relationships?Not over 30 but generally have dated people 5-6 years younger. I did filter for younger women primarily because in my experience. They value older men more. The amount of effort put in is more equitable. Its generally and easier time to satisfy what they want in a relationship. and thats a good thing! Both parties are happy and consenting after all. Also older women tend to have more emotional baggage from past experiences. Its not my/mens responsibility to do emotional work on women. Its great … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/22 08:10 PM |
| 1 | Men are having less casual sex than ever. And it's a good thing.No that would only work if women were more dissatisfied with the status quo. Than men Adult humans want to feel validated as desirable sexual/romantic beings but this doesn't exist for half the population unless they build themselves up/Mangle their personalities to compete to be the best option for women, and then continue to grind. That discrepancy in a want to feel valued just creates a lucrative market of men willing to pay women for the illusion of sex/romantic desire. Men who are willing t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/22 07:45 PM |
| 10 | Men are having less casual sex than ever. And it's a good thing.N-Counts stay lower. Because men are viscerally disgusted by women who have sex (according to this subreddit) and you know who they're having sex with? Men. So finally there are fewer men out there making your future wives and girlfriends disgusting (to you) by keeping n-counts low Women can just lie or filter out guys who express this sentiment. Theres will always men to go around. It makes men try harder. Men are motivated by sex. The fact that men are having less of it means they're having to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/22 10:57 AM |
| 2 | Is the ratio really better in real life?You don't need to change it much. A change to a 1:1 or 0.95:1 ratio (5% less men) is enough. Thats very true whenever this topic comes up people always assume people want like a 2:1 3:1 ratio or some shit lmao. Go look at Russia/Ukraine where the situation is much less lopsided. To be fair the reasons that make men much less numerous there are also probably negatively impacting their romantic relationships. But i agree with sentiment a slight decrease in men would make it more equitable. Would w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/22 03:21 AM |
| 5 | A passion for making the world better is an underestimated but very attractive quality in menIt has nothing to do with altriusm or some other socially promoted imperative. Men who are passionate about ambitious but achievable goals are more attractive in general. Also probably more likely to take initiative in other areas like fitness finance anyway. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/22 09:38 PM |
| 2 | Why is an average woman more accepted for being single than an attractive woman for choosing to stay single?To society, it means "someone chose her." That might of been true 40+ years ago. But dynamics have changed men are way more willing to commit than women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/22 09:33 PM |
| 2 | Is the ratio really better in real life?No it doesnt and there isn't even an "even" split natrually. Men want relationships and sex much more in general even with a 50 so women already have much more power and men the ones doing like 95% of the pursuit / grinding to become dateable | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/22 09:22 PM |
| 1 | A core issue with promiscuity and poligamy is that they are not sustainable.This isn't to say polyamorous couples can't work, but I don't think it's something most people would sign up for. Polyamory is significantly more popular among women then it is for men. If you spend any amount of time in poly communities a consistent complaint you will hear is that their aren't many men seriously interested in polyamory aside from outsiders primarily looking for a quick lay. With the number of "undateable men" increasing i could definitely see polyamory and polygamy becoming mor… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/22 07:27 PM |
| 2 | Is the ratio really better in real life?Some of these are places where women typically outnumber men so it makes sense you would experience what you claimed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/22 07:21 PM |
| 1 | Is the ratio really better in real life?Nature made it this way for a reason Appeal to nature any modification to the birth rate for either gender creates major problems in society so a roughly 50/50 split is best for everyone. This implies the creation of new arbitrary problems that outweigh the ones it addresses. There is nothing sacred about the 50/50 or 100:105 split. It exists because that was the most optimal for biological reproduction and natural seldction is indifferent to what you I or society wants. This is just redressed b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/22 07:15 PM |
| 1 | Is the ratio really better in real life?There certainly are places women congregate but they seem to exclude men by design somehow. What are some places that might fill this role. Kinda curious | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/22 07:10 PM |
| 2 | Being monogamous does not benefit a man in any way except onePolyamory primarily benefits women and is even worse for men than monogamy is. There's a reason why you see so few straight men in the polycommunity and so many women. Join any setting like that and you will observe how skewed the gender ratios are. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/22 11:10 PM |
| 0 | Because of the extreme lack of women which is greatly negative effecting men and society as whole. In the future do you think people will take extreme measures?: Such as genetic engineering to make sure more women are born?Women can usually fufill those standards easily enough. (Just not every single woman all at the same time obviously) Most men with standards anywhere near their women counterparts are being ridiculous and asking for way more than they could ever hope to have even temporarily | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/22 09:30 PM |
| 1 | Q4ALL: Why do you only attack one sex?Because women call the shots and have nearly all the power in hetero dynamics so their actions ultimately determine what men will do in the dating market inb4 ah but did you know men are adults individual choices blah blah Irrelevant humans respond to incentives and those with less agency/power in a dynamic will behave responsivley to those who do. Men are the ones who get vetted and sorted for relationships its seldom the other way around. That being said i will call out men for coping behavior… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/22 09:01 PM |
| 2 | The rise of the lone woman holding other women accountable, JustPearlyThings, illustrates that Redpill beliefs resonate with A LOT of men and that most women aren't interested in engaging in good faith in dating related discussionIt is if you’re already in a vulnerable state of mind. Which if a guy feels like no woman wants them Plenty of men feel like that and when they express anything that even implies men have it harder in dating they are shouted at with conventionally accepted pejoratives from the majority of society usually from people who are doing well or at vear minimum not struggling. That type of social aggression is going to be a lot moee compelling than banter from a RP (which is already conventionally rejec… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/22 02:06 AM |
| 1 | How many bad boys do you know have consistent relations?All of them? If by consistent you mean consistently dating and fucking? If you mean long term relationships some kf them but only the ones who seek that out. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/11/22 09:27 PM |
| 1 | This sub is horrible advice for online datingYea but it is the status quo in our capitalist society and id rather talk about what is as opposed to what i wish things were in this context. Because they will at best *slowly * get worse as these dynamics solidify themselves overtime | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/11/22 09:03 PM |
| 4 | The rise of the lone woman holding other women accountable, JustPearlyThings, illustrates that Redpill beliefs resonate with A LOT of men and that most women aren't interested in engaging in good faith in dating related discussionCorrect. They just say you’re beta, blue pill af, weak, or whatever derogatory label they want to throw out if you don’t agree with them. Name calling is not a very compelling Arguement to get people to continue supporting you financially. Men are going to their channels looking for best practices to improve their dating life. Not because their afraid of being labeled "bluepill af" or whatever. Those labels only have any meaning when you've watched enough of that content to understand their cont… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/11/22 06:33 PM |
| 11 | The rise of the lone woman holding other women accountable, JustPearlyThings, illustrates that Redpill beliefs resonate with A LOT of men and that most women aren't interested in engaging in good faith in dating related discussionThey make thier money by enforcing a very nihilistic view towards women. They aren't enforcing it. No one holds a gun to thier viewers heads. Their popularity comes with how much men resonate with what they are saying and the logical conclusion is the same "build yourself up reallll quick or you will be alone". From what ive experienced the message they give men is that nobody gives a shit about them especially women (which id say is accurate) and that if they want to be truelly desired the need… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/11/22 05:44 PM |
| 2 | How many here are still virgins in their 20s? What is your reason for that?It does sound off but i wish it was true | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/22 06:13 PM |
| 5 | "Men date who they "need" when they're down & date who they want when they're up."These are not mutually exclusive and everyone settles in some way or another | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/22 09:13 PM |
| 1 | "Men date who they "need" when they're down & date who they want when they're up."Survivorship bias comes in here. The most disgruntled ones will be the loudest most noticeable and most memorable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/22 08:39 PM |
| 1 | "Men date who they "need" when they're down & date who they want when they're up."That can often be the case but for many people it is either this or being alone and many are willing to come to peace with compromising in such a way | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/22 08:08 PM |
| 25 | "Men date who they "need" when they're down & date who they want when they're up."in hopes they will be appreciated more. They basically begin preying on people they see as inferior to lower thier chances of rejection. Why does this shit have to be so malevolent and denegrated. They might simply think "man it seems like I need to be more open to lowering my own standards since they arent being met and i might have to give more in the relationship than I recieve but at least ill be appreicated and loved by this person" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/22 07:41 PM |
| 2 | Why should men still be the ones to pursue?Because if you dont other men will. Id garrutee if you offered most men to change the world such that men and women courted at a anything resembling similar rates they would take it. Women have probably considered a lot of what you said. If being active rather than passive with men benefited them more than its cost they would do it and that would become the norm in the dating market. If you raise your value enough eventually through a massive effort over time you will get to a point where some w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/22 07:31 PM |
| 2 | Why should men still be the ones to pursue?from the dating market, be it from being too short, too poor, or just not having the right social disposition, it seems rather odd that we are holding on to this custom of men being the ones expected to approach women. If women are afraid of men being predatory/players etc, shouldn’t women be the ones making the first moves nowadays? If a woman wants a 6’0” guy or a $100k, and she really believes she’s that attractive to warrant getting such a guy, why should men have to throw themselves at her … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/22 07:26 PM |
| 1 | Most men would have sex with women they find physically attractive regardless of their personality. But women don't always want to have sex with men they find physically attractiveSexual vs non sexual interaction | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/22 07:19 PM |
| 3 | Why should men still be the ones to pursue?Because if they don't the women are going to pick up the slack. Unless every man decides tomorrow that they are going to stop pursing. Women have 0 incentive to change a status quo where the burden of initiation and pursuit is solely on men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/22 07:16 PM |
| 1 | Your partner should be your best friend. Everything else is just details.People choose partners and best friends for different reasons. Friendships even best ones don't have as high of a expectation of retainment as relationships do. Love is an active choice you make daily. If your partner is someone you get along with well you dont have to be best friends you just have to commit to taking an active interest and participation in their life coupled with a willingness to self reflect and continuously look for mutual interests | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/22 07:13 PM |
| 1 | How has your relationship with your own mother changed after discovering the red pill?It helped me be more empathetic towards her when we discuss dating. Men and women live in different worlds dating wise so you cant get to upset when a parent doesn't understand your struggles especially when they know you mean the best. She is and will always be my favourite person. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/22 07:07 PM |
| 2 | What’s the female version of game?Conventional dating wisdom, because its all they need to date Be yourself and put your best foot forward. Go to social gatherings try to be friendly ans socially. Groom yourself and take pride in your appearance. Try to be a little proactive from time to time. Show interest in men you are interested in and be receptive to their advances. Take care of your mental health. Its really not rocket science if their going for a really high quality dude you could throw in going to the gym and watching yo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/22 07:04 PM |
| 7 | What predispositions a guy into becoming red pill?Actually no the rate of male sexlesness in that age cohort contradicts your guesswork Average women are marrying average men because the majority of men are average and thus what is available saying this means that average man is dating with nearly as equitable a distribution as hia female counterparts is lazy and counterproductive. if you actually look at the rate of distribution of sexual partners you will see a much more uneven distribution for men as well Did you even consider things such as… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/22 01:49 AM |
| 10 | What predispositions a guy into becoming red pill?Nothing of any of what you said is is mutually exclusive to the paragraph you are responding too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/22 01:16 AM |
| 0 | Most of men's problems with dating comes from shallow men not wanting to admit they're shallow.I am not in disagreement with this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/22 12:14 AM |
| 70 | What predispositions a guy into becoming red pill?The primary issue that most women on this sub will do mental gymnastics to avoid is that men respond to incentives. Men are incentivized towardss the "redpill" because of the material conditions they experience in the dating market. When you think about the conclusions one would come to from the redpill are pretty depressing but in general here are some I believe to be near universal. Pleaae give feedback if you think some of these arent representative of trp. 1.) Women have a massive and most i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/22 12:13 AM |
| -1 | Most of men's problems with dating comes from shallow men not wanting to admit they're shallow.Thats because a lot of women have personalities such that they have nothing else to offer in the dating market. This is why you dont see any female incels. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/22 11:05 PM |
| 2 | The existence of a concept such as "Madonna/whore complex" shows that society demonizes male sexuality.Men are under no dillusions that the stronger more muscular and masculine men wont get the lions share of attention. I only ever here women advising men against hiting the gym to further their own romantic/sexual chances. Because "all women have different preferences " therefore its a perfectly even distribution and we can throw out any observed group tendencies | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/11/22 08:41 PM |
| 2 | CMV Why Red Pill is Dumb Series Part 3: Red Pilled Men Are Overly Concerned With Getting LaidIt's possible to do both just not in the way you see fit. They want to build solidarity for the men at the bottom of the romantic/sexual toten poll. Its clear no one will give a rats ass about that cohort of men so in turn they realize that they do not owe you me or anyone in a more privileged position their labour for "solidarity to improve conditions for all" and their in group solidarity is compatible with "enjoying the decline " whatever that means for the individual aspirant man. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/11/22 05:13 PM |
| 1 | Why are so many women unashamed of being overweight in OLD?Because their weight is not going to change the demographics of the men in their inbox in a noticable way. They will have tons of mens of all weights and stretches of life both good and bad regardless of their weight/attitude trying hard to get with them unless they are morbidly obese (maybe them too? Im unsure). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/11/22 03:01 AM |
| 2 | Women who sexually like men, are you personally not that visually stimulated by our bodies?This is the user criticizing another users comment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/10/22 09:46 PM |
| 1 | Women who sexually like men, are you personally not that visually stimulated by our bodies?You think all men are desperate and will do anything to attract women. What he said dont necessitate either of what you said | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/10/22 09:12 PM |
| 1 | if men are tired of e-girls getting the money, why aren't they also whoring out?Are you a Furry | /r/AllPillDebate | 17/10/22 07:32 PM |
| 3 | Men who do not get matches on these dating aaps, what do you think is your major malfunction??Sure, Being authentic in how I presented myself and communicated intially. I made the mistake of looking at womens profiles and assuming the same style of description would work for me. So that is to say. Listing the good with the bad. When I made my profile I focused on my skills as a writer/world builder and talked a lot about my love of the two topics. I explained where I was and my career aspirations. I also talked about some things i struggled with. Such as depression and the work in fundra… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/10/22 04:54 AM |
| 1 | You’re not good enough to be averageSomeone needs to do a poll towards men sometime in this sub. I can say from experience I only will date women who approach first for tertiaty reasons but i feel like a lot of men would prefer to be approached. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/22 07:04 PM |
| 1 | How do we determine if people have too high standards?Her standards lower the quality of average women? Yes this is simple statistics an average is litteraly an average of a sample size if an individual in said sample is bringing low quality relative to other individuals that will bring the average down. I don’t know what you’re talking about at all, there’s tons of men who don’t have shit going for them that have shit going for them who have high standards, And their participation in the dating market does absolutely make things worse for women be… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/22 07:03 PM |
| 1 | You’re not good enough to be averageYou are an anomaly in the extreme in that regard however. And while i wish more women were like you most are the opposite in that regard. The other guys view on women while pessimistic isint narrow is rather broad. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/22 04:36 PM |
| 1 | How do we determine if people have too high standards?The consequences of your actions and behaviors are not limited to the people you immediately interact with. In agregate people behaving the way she lowers the quality of the average women in the dating market. Imagine if some man who didn't have shit going for him did the same. He becomes just another bad card in a shitty hand dealt to women and if more men behave like him dating gets worse for women as well. And when something as fundamental as lvbe and dating is worse for everyone because of t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/22 04:31 PM |
| 2 | Women put virtually zero effort into dating, and certainly far less than menHoly shit this post really resonated well | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/22 12:57 PM |
| 1 | Women put virtually zero effort into dating, and certainly far less than menI dont understand this, of my female friends the ones who are forward with males seem to always be getting what they want unless the male in question is like an extremely attractive dude. They have 0 problems finding partners or partners Meanwhile ole ill wait for the guy to intiate and carry everything jessica has all the typical complaints that youd expect from a typical cis het dynamic and its really hard to empathize because the amount of work she puts in is pathetic but also the expected no… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/22 12:56 PM |
| 5 | Women put virtually zero effort into dating, and certainly far less than menWhy? Have you observed this in real life? It seems really out of place. Imo | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/22 12:49 PM |
| 1 | How do we determine if people have too high standards?Nobodies actions are exempt from ridicule. She held the type of selfish standards that show an extractive mindset where she hoped to extraxt as much quality as possible from the dating market with little initial introspection/explenation to what she was offering. That type of mindset negatively affects all that participate. It was deserving of ridicule and rightly received it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/22 12:46 PM |
| 2 | Men who do not get matches on these dating aaps, what do you think is your major malfunction??I ised to not get matches and i would say the biggest problem was authenticity. Specifically that I was being authentic in the first place. If you want success on those things as a scour subreddits for examples of profiles from people claiming high rates of success and copy them almodt verbatim. That and get better pics | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/22 12:42 PM |
| 1 | There is nothing creepy about complimenting a stranger or trying to start a conversation in public with a woman unless she's obviously very busy doing somethingIt very low risk and holds no social risk because the woman cant mill through his social circle calling him a creep in retaliation to him starting a conversation. That and its low investment so a guy can practice talling too/being rejected by women with a relatibely low psychological investment in the outcome | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/22 12:33 PM |
| 3 | Would you rather get the amount of attention women get, or amount of attention the average men get?Are the men who just wanna fuck the only ones doing the approaching? I imagine even if they aren't they are probably doing the overwhelming majority of the approaches. I've definitely experienced a lot of that freshman year where you have a friend group and a woman might find a guy interesting but she's not going to approach the guy obvs so he might have similar feelings but has to build up his nerves to do it in between the wait period on him to take care of the scary heavy lifting 3 others guy… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/10/22 04:22 PM |
| -2 | The average guy should not be frustrated at the selective nature of average Woman as he would act no differently if the tables where turned.If however the tables were turned and the average guy had literally hundreds of new Woman available to him at the flick of an app every single day; wouldn’t he simply be swiping on the hottest ones? If anything; if the tables were reversed relationships/families and society as we know it would be in an even more desire state than it is now as the vast majority of Men would never commit to a monogamous relationship and a mundane family life if he had an endless supply of causal sex options. If an… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/10/22 03:38 PM |
| 1 | Would you rather get the amount of attention women get, or amount of attention the average men get?Men pay crackheads for sex, sexual attention without emotion is as useless to me as a tit on my back. I found it interesting that you brought this up. I've observed that in general men care about the act of sex much less than they claim. Like some will pay a crackhead for sex. But by and large most men if they wanted sex could pay someone to get it over with. I think mens and women's desire for sex is somewhat closer than we assume but men will much more easily settle for sex in the absence of o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/10/22 03:32 PM |
| 2 | According to a study, the best strategy for struggling male chimpanzees looking to mate was to befriend high ranking alpha males as well as to form large networks with other males. Notice how they didn't need to befriend female chimps. In my opinion, we should give this advice to struggling men.You become the average of the people you spend the most time with. Befriend men who are very successful with women preferably the least physically attractive among them. And absorb as much as you can. Allow their quirks and personality and lifestyle to diffuse into yours. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/10/22 03:23 PM |
| 1 | At what age have you personally felt most sexually desirable to the opposite sex?Right now in my mid 20s. I finnaly got close to the "finish line" relative to other men my age so it's no surprise the script flipped. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/10/22 02:01 PM |
| 2 | At what age have you personally felt most sexually desirable to the opposite sex?Inb4 "I am a 500 year old woman/corpse and chads still hit on me everyday I mean it's an exaggeration but not by much. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/10/22 01:57 PM |
| 1 | Is a man transitioning into a woman a viable option to become more attractive to women?Yes but only I'f they have the physical traits to easily pass when presenting as a woman. Which most dont. | /r/AllPillDebate | 13/10/22 01:40 PM |
| 1 | Who do you think settles more in relationships?well thats pretty easy to avoid, date women with money. Pretty easy Date Women It doesnt work like that for men we dont get both. we get struggle to get with who you can unless we are gifted in some way or spend years optimizing everything and even then it's always a painful struggle. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/10/22 05:06 AM |
| 3 | Delight and Camaraderie in HumiliationYour thinking way to deep into it. Men have been obsoleted in the dating market and they know it. Men never were never can and never will be desired an ounce as much women. Watching that type of content is just schaddenfrued at that point | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/10/22 03:47 AM |
| 1 | Women want to make all of these ridiculous rules, be insanely selective and play well above their league but then refuse to acknowledge that the ONLY thing affording them this luxury is that men are significantly hornierWhy should I lower my standards when I’m still getting dates with men I’m actually attracted to? Because some losers are lonely and feel left out? Lol, no thank you "Why do men objectify us so much!" Hmm I wonder if market forces like this have anything to do with it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/10/22 03:34 AM |
| 2 | CMV: Most complaints about dating stems from not understanding how value worksSubjectivity doesn't change anything about market valuation. Beauty can be in the eye of the beholder till the ends of time some people are always going to be sought after much more than others and as a result have a much higher valuation regardless of how "subjective" it ever can be on any hypothetical individuals basis. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/10/22 03:30 AM |
| 3 | men who think "if a woman can get an abortion, I should be able to not pay child support or to not be a father for them"Even if you accidentally get someone pregnant it is your responsibility to be a great father for that child. If 100% of the choice should to have the child should fall on her then 100% of the responsibility should as well. It is her body after all. Dont chose to have a child off the seed of someone you know doesn't want to be a father and then have the audacity to be suprised that he doesnt want to be a father if you have access to abortions | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/10/22 03:21 AM |
| 3 | Male sexlessness is skyrocketing compared to female sexlessness - basically, women are sharing Chads. There's no way to spin that any other way.if you want to debate academics, cite sources. This isn't a debate numbnuts. Calling out the fact that your own sources dont support your core arguement was all that was needed. You are a grown man do better than crossing your fingers and hoping no one notices that your own sources dont support your own bullshit. Is your hope that if you link enough articles no one will bother reading them? Is this because you didnt read them? Or because you cant engage critically with the subject manner? I am b… | /r/AllPillDebate | 11/10/22 10:26 PM |
| 1 | Do you guys think you could last dating for a man if you were given 5 years?That's an interesting perspective, and from what I read and also what I experienced before hard focusing looks on my own. He seems to be doing considerably better than even average men. On the app. Though considering OLD is how you guys met and that you felt lucky snatching him up. It sounds like this dude is doing very well in the looks department and probably has some strong natural charisma to boot. I've noticed similar results but I also put in an extreme and unnatural amount of work into my… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/22 10:05 PM |
| 10 | which pill do you think would be the worst for society as a whole if everyone believed it?Blue pill. If we started off with red/black pill people men would know what to expect from the beginning and of made peace with it long before they got invested in bluepill lies. So there wouldn't be any redpill rage /black pill depression. They would also be more comfortable with the idea of not having value in a romantic/sexual context and wouldn't equate that with their personal value as a human being. Also women would no longer be shamed for being who they actually are. Everyone wins | /r/AllPillDebate | 11/10/22 05:54 PM |
| 5 | Dating strategies : making the first movewithcthe woman making the first move, the second move, the third move, and likely the fourth move, and then the guy miraculously got the hint and made his Bro if someone needs to take a hint you didnt make shit for moves | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/22 05:25 PM |
| 8 | Male sexlessness is skyrocketing compared to female sexlessness - basically, women are sharing Chads. There's no way to spin that any other way.We present findings from an almost comprehensive world-level analysis using census and survey microdata from 420 samples and 120 countries spanning from 1960 to 2011, which allow us to assert that the reversal of the gender gap in education is strongly associated with the end of hypergamy and increases in hypogamy Across a range of different contexts (e.g. United States, France, India, South Korea, Kenya), the norms governing marriage markets have proven flexible enough to accommodate the increa… | /r/AllPillDebate | 11/10/22 05:18 PM |
| 1 | Do you guys think you could last dating for a man if you were given 5 years?He sent me a like first we matched I messaged him first he asked me out and picked the place based on what I said I liked to eat, we went Dutch, went for a walk after he bought me a street vendor rose, I bought him some kind of trinket a vendor was selling don’t even remember what it was it was cheap and silly. Stopped at Starbucks he paid for coffee, kiss at the end honestly don’t remember who initiated it, it felt mutual but could have been him. You wouldn't of even of gotten to this point as … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/22 04:51 PM |
| 1 | Do you guys think you could last dating for a man if you were given 5 years?Regardless of your past successes in this scenario you are now in a male body how do you plan to compensate for being in that body enough to get the same level of success or interest you once did. The barriers to entry will be much higher. Less than a percent of the women who found you attractive or would be willing to entertain your advances or make on on you will do so now. Your going to have to stand out from now on. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/22 04:43 PM |
| 1 | Why are most divorces initiated by women?I appreciate man. I really feel like women dont understand why men settle so often. It's like Your free to live as you want and not give a shit about mens wants or if your personality is repellant to them. You'll still be inundated with desire But don't be suprised when men just say fuck it and soft settle /waste your "best years" until they can do better because that became most of your genders game plan and MO. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/10/22 05:12 AM |
| 4 | Why are most divorces initiated by women?Ah same dude my partner is European and a completely different vibe. I used to think women were just much much naturally more selfish/narcissistic/self serving than men until I started dating outside of the states. That made me question me preconceived notions and honestly I think a lot of the stereotypes we have about men and women are because of horrible hellscape we date in as Americans | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/10/22 05:05 AM |
| 1 | Why are most divorces initiated by women?Women have less to lose. Men have much shittier deal being single. Men The burden of having to to through the heavy lifting and male competition of dating/courtship process Vs Women The garunteed abundance of romantic options after a divorce through dating apps social groups or just social gender roles in dating. Its really not hard to see why men lower their standards for women's personalities or even staying with women they sort of like and are dating when the alternative is being burdened wit… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/10/22 05:02 AM |
| 2 | Why are most divorces initiated by women?How can I strengthen the chance that a prenup will not be worthless in court? What are the variables I should be considering? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/10/22 04:54 AM |
| 1 | Women are not wrong in saying that the average guy is an undateable mess. The mistake they make is believing that the average woman is not.What? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/10/22 09:39 PM |
| 1 | Political polarization is a big factor in women and men being less compatible these daysDifferent groups of people benefit and lose in different from a "functional " society depending on how it functions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/22 11:02 PM |
| -1 | Women are not wrong in saying that the average guy is an undateable mess. The mistake they make is believing that the average woman is not.Their brains are in demand too women also are the gatekeepers of commitment | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/22 07:15 PM |
| 1 | What value does a man bring to a modern relationship?Customizability and Utlility Because nearly all women have so much choice they dont have to settle for anything that isint the best for them. If a woman now a days choses to be with a man it's because out of all the men she knows he has been determined to provide or likely provide the greatest increase in her quality of life. If he doesn't there's always More men If she doesn't like him there will be guys similar to him down the line. And they will be the ones putting in all the work to move thi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/22 03:18 PM |
| 1 | Watch what they say not what they do, women of ppd what things do men say they want/ care about that they don't actually follow through onYour logic thus implies that women are indeed after men's assets and don't really love their husband These arent mutually exclusive. Men and women love differently | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/22 02:59 PM |
| 7 | The only "80/20 rule" on dating apps is that 80/20 is literally the male-to-female user ratio on themWhy do you think 80% of men end up on dating apps while only 20% of women do 🙃 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/22 06:58 PM |
| 1 | Red Pill vs human sexual biologyLow n-count? Is that body count? Is there science behind this? I haven't been able to find much which makes me think folks are just spouting opinion. Yea it's that, I've seen a few more studies get thrown around here. So if I see any of them pop us this week I'll dm | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/09/22 08:24 PM |
| 1 | Red Pill vs human sexual biologyRight but a large portion of redpillers are looking to date short term or have enough options to find a low n count women for LTR so this isint a incompatible view | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/09/22 07:57 PM |
| 2 | How are women finding dates in 2022?If the statistics are true and dating apps are roughly 70% male and 30% female, how are the other 70% of women getting dates and getting laid? By being pursued by men outside of dating apps. Just because many men have to resort to those apps as another Avenue for opportunities doesnt mean the women using those apps have the same issues. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/09/22 03:30 PM |
| -1 | Do you women go through similar struggles like men go through?Probably not the top 1% alone but I'd bet good money she isint even aware the men in a similar life circumstances to herself in this respect | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/09/22 02:59 PM |
| 2 | (Q4A) "men peak in their mid 30's."Yea honestly was thinking the same. I hate to sound black pilled but I really have 0 idea on what men in that situation could possibly do. The generic bluepilled advice doesn't even work for average men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/09/22 02:52 PM |
| 0 | (Q4A) "men peak in their mid 30's."They decide to up their expectations in response to women's expectations not the other way around. Of course it doesnt pan out like that. An average women could snag that if she really wanted too. But only a guy who is on his g.r.i.n.d and has some luck is going to be able to pull of the equivalent | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/09/22 02:26 PM |
| 1 | How do you think the dating game would change if body count was public information?How did you take away that from his post tho? The way I'm interpreting it is something along the lines of "it's ok to give your male friends the occasional ribbing about on not having the balls to approach the girl they like. It's an important skill to learn and will coming to terms with being the one to initiate is important because the women arent going to do it and while you wait some other guy shot his shot already" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/09/22 02:23 PM |
| 1 | How do you think the dating game would change if body count was public information?Bullying in the context of the higher comment is more of an umbrella than a monolith as you described it . | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/09/22 12:54 PM |
| 2 | The "reward" for successfully implementing red pillhttps://images.app.goo.gl/cYWovR2yHbGjd3bv7 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/09/22 06:18 PM |
| 3 | I’m tired of this idea that men don’t know how to communicate, both men and women don’t.oh gee i don't know. i was just putting it out there that maybe people with a mastery of one of the primary traits that sets us apart from other life can't be given 'far too much credit That's the exact point made in the upper comment though there is no "mastery" or better social aptitude than there male counter parts. Having to reference social skills as something that separates us from other species is proving their point | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/09/22 06:15 PM |
| 2 | ONLINE DATING TRENDS: Men outnumber women on Tinder by 9-to-1 in Europe and more than 7-to-3 in the US, with Grindr (primarily for gay and LGBT men) now having one of the highest rates of active user engagement"Bussy" 💀 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/09/22 06:13 PM |
| 3 | I’m tired of this idea that men don’t know how to communicate, both men and women don’t.What's your arguement exactly? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/09/22 01:03 PM |
| 5 | The "reward" for successfully implementing red pillEven by their own terms, the end game for successfully implementing Red Pill is garbage for society Men are not obligated to throw away tools that can help them better their lives to prioritize the status quo or any other notion falling under "society" For example, on a social level, a red piller recently claimed on a well known podcast that his advice is ultimately only any good for a 'tiny percentage of men', but even if it is, 'at least he's giving them the tools for success'. He is one perso… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/09/22 05:16 PM |
| 6 | Many men like to talk about how women end up in abusive relationships because they "pick the wrong men". So let's hear it, how would YOU pick the right man if you were a woman.A stable guy who shows respect and doesnt respond overly negatively to rejections boundaries or the like. Were taking for granted that I'm a woman in this scenario so I'm not going to be doing any of work or heavy lifting in courtship process. So I could take my time with the men who go after me and see how they react in situations, deal with frustrations ect. If were being really thorough I could even stir up a minor conflict or difficult situations to see how they behave. It's not like anyone … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/09/22 04:49 AM |
| 7 | When will things finally start looking better for men?Technology. Only technology can free men from women and vice versa. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/09/22 01:16 PM |
| 1 | Men-women relations will fall apart once AI is so advanced as well as robotics that fembot girlfriends will be produced where these fembots will be the perfect woman thanks to AI like in the anime Saber Marionette J, biological women would lose their appealing to menUpdoot if you hope everything the OP predicts becomes true. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/22 03:19 PM |
| 2 | Men-women relations will fall apart once AI is so advanced as well as robotics that fembot girlfriends will be produced where these fembots will be the perfect woman thanks to AI like in the anime Saber Marionette J, biological women would lose their appealing to menI'm confused what are you arguing is bad about any of this???? All of these sound amazing. Men and women should have more independence from each other not less. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/22 02:55 PM |
| 3 | Single moms are terrible at raising kids. We need to stop this culture of idolizing single moms and demonizing fathers.Did she tell him she was gonna keep the kid full stop? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/22 02:46 PM |
| 12 | A lot of men in this sub say they have been berated and humiliated by women for making a moveAhh this peels back some memories I had tried to forget 👌🤣 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/22 07:43 PM |
| 3 | Men can’t complain that women find them ugly when women spend so much time and money trying to appeal to menMen don’t even know how makeup works yet they expect us to believe them when they say they don’t care about/don’t like makeup. All women see how men always go to the women that use makeup, so yes, men care and in fact prefer those women. Men just don’t see it because they know nothing about makeup and assume those girls aren’t using it lol Even if we take for granted that they care about makeup or like it in general that doesn't generate the same difference in attention work on appearance does f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/22 07:31 PM |
| 5 | Men can’t complain that women find them ugly when women spend so much time and money trying to appeal to menWomen are expected to wear makeup and appeal to the male gaze from a young age. Women often spend hours on makeup, hair, and molding their bodies into the perfect body. Not for dating, most men really truelly truelly do not give a shit if you wear makeup or not and it will not inhibit your ability to attract men. Men approach women who do all levels (or none at all) of make up usage/body modification. There reverse cannot be said. Also I thought women didnt wear make for men they wear it for the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/22 06:57 PM |
| -1 | There is nothing wrong with a promiscuous guy wanting to settle with a virgin.Criticism is inevitable. Sure but discrepancies in what people criticize and their standards for doing so should also be called out. My issue is women will call out men for having X preferences and men will usually give it more weight because most of them have few to no options at any given time so theyll listen to whatever they can. but the reverse receives backlash. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/22 02:12 PM |
| 3 | There is nothing wrong with a promiscuous guy wanting to settle with a virgin.So have your cake and eat it too? Just admit that instead of making excuses because this is all based in generalizations. My thing is he doesnt need to generalize or justify a damn thing. If men being promiscuous can still chose who they want to date then you cant levy any more criticism towards them than towards women who do the same. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/22 02:04 PM |
| 3 | What do men want? As candidly and honestly as possible and from a male’s perspective.Ay yo call Hogwarts we got a unicorn hunter over here! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/22 01:40 PM |
| 2 | Men pay for sex using resources/commitment, women pay for resources/commitment using sex.Your wilding if you think women need to give up sex for commitment | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/22 01:38 PM |
| 3 | Society needs a more widespread recognition of toxic femininitybut OP’s post is not actually about toxic femininity, it’s about generally toxic behaviors which he framed as being female-specific. No one said female specific rather these are behavoirs encouraged expected and observed more In women just like those other traits for toxic masculinity are for men. You just want to cherry pick a definition of toxic femininity that focuses on women not supporting women and ignores the shitty behaviors in their orbit. If we’re going to discuss ACTUAL toxic feminini… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/22 01:09 PM |
| 3 | Society needs a more widespread recognition of toxic femininityIn a similar fashion, toxic femininity is defined as, “dismissing or belittling women who don't conform to societal expectations for their gender which has a negative impact on women and on society as a whole.” This is an awful definition and has little use outside of a prescriptive hammer to ignore toxic femeniinjty on the ground. regardless of whether or not the things he described are also indicative of mood disorders the behaviors are observed expected and encouraged and accepted more from w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/22 12:34 PM |
| 2 | Most average males should not bother with most women unless they are really willing to lower their standards.Nah dont get me wrong his posistion and most mens is an awful and uneviable one. I wouldnt wish it on Anybody | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/22 06:44 PM |
| 2 | q4w: How do you SHOW that your current boyfriend is more special than your last?After reading this comment I've come to the conclusion that are disagreements were essentially semantically. I dont have any disagreements I think we got hung up on the word "special" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/22 04:02 PM |
| 5 | Most average males should not bother with most women unless they are really willing to lower their standards.OP never forget an average male can through years of hard work become decently above average and by extension of this attractive to average women. Focus on that as the goal. Is it fair that you have to put in multiple orders of magnitude more then women for the same thing? No that's just nature. Scream at Darwin for the state of affairs but when you are done understand you cannot fight nature, no amount of moralizing will change the darwinistic landscape of mating and dating. we are still animal… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/22 02:37 PM |
| 1 | Would you prefer your son be AF or BB ?Lmaooooo | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/22 02:04 PM |
| 2 | q4w: How do you SHOW that your current boyfriend is more special than your last?OP literally said "I know that some guys show their current gf that they are special by DOING DIFFERENT things with their current gf than with their last gf." And??? The relationship being "special" in a different way does not speak in any capacity to overall appraised quality of the relationship compared to previous ones. Doing different things with a partner is a good show that you arent just looking for a carbon copy of an ex. But it does not necessitate that relationship is more special its … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/22 02:02 PM |
| 1 | Why do women seem to be less bothered by being single than men?You are not elaborating because it’s not something we have to think about, we are too busy handling our side of things. Which proves my point that there’s a lack of insight. they are very common scenarios that dont require an ELI5 break down, jesus. Seems like you are dismissing this stuff because you haven’t thought about it, or weren’t very busy before yourself, therefore projecting that same shit on everyone else’s lives. Tryna make it an easy handwave by using that language won’t work here. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/22 05:56 AM |
| 2 | Why do women seem to be less bothered by being single than men?What about seeing her friends, helping out with family, working out and other extra curricular activities? Where do they go? 2/3 of these are situations where men are often around and trying to take the opportunity to get to know her and thus be filtered by her. Wtf is handling all of the logistics? How does that man ensure she knows he isn’t dangerous? The planning and funding as well as convincing her to go in the first place. He doesnt. He either is able to convince her he isint or he is filt… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/22 05:19 AM |
| 2 | q4w: How do you SHOW that your current boyfriend is more special than your last?Relationships with different people are going to be very different That does not exclude one relationship being more special than another. Inb4 "special in different ways" the OP probably means special overall. I'll expand on this a bit. This idea that each new partner has to be better than the last is a terrible way to look at relationships. There will always be someone who is more funny, better looking, easy to talk to etc. Same response as above give and take still has a net worth at the end … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/22 04:59 AM |
| 1 | q4w: How do you SHOW that your current boyfriend is more special than your last?Because presumably you would chose to go on the long haul with someone better than a person you deemed undeserving of your commitment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/22 04:51 AM |
| 3 | q4w: How do you SHOW that your current boyfriend is more special than your last?Holy shit if this is all true you are 1 in a million. I'd call him lucky but that would be an understatement | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/22 04:48 AM |
| 4 | Why do women seem to be less bothered by being single than men?Not when she runs out of TIME and the majority are already paired off. Ok this is getting a bit ridiculous. There is more than enough time in the week to go on dates. For a woman working a 9-5 job There is no shortage of men willing to pay furnish and handle all of the logistics. If a woman wants to she could go on as many as 3 dates a week or even stack dates back to back if that was really neccessary (its not) she can talk to as many men as she wants over voice chat or call as well and quickly… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/22 04:44 AM |
| 3 | Why do women seem to be less bothered by being single than men?Average or no, the right fit/compatibility can be very difficult to find Its considerably easier when you can run through 2000 options rather than 2 😉 Edit: also if the relationship fails there are plenty of fallbacks and men the woman may have in her life as friends to chose from which come with the benefit of being pre vetted. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/22 04:20 AM |
| 4 | Why do women seem to be less bothered by being single than men?Example: a woman has 50 options, by the TIME she has been exposed to option #10, option #11-20 has already moved on and are no longer potential options, they might have even been the perfect fit. Sure but there's always another 10 where that came from so... And this is all assuming a woman only uses her TIME for dating and nothing else in life Why is that assumption neccesary? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/22 04:19 AM |
| 1 | Women’s dating preferences in a nutshellBut a quick Google shows.. hmmm. 5% of the population approximately. Since 20% actually does work out, How does that discount any of my points? How is working out defined? Is it going for a light jog? The one trip to the gym they can afford per week or what? r/bodyweightfitness Literally run Do push-ups and buy a pull up bar. Do ab workouts at home. No excuses are allowable because no excuses save for major health issues are reasonable. You know theres a reason people go to gyms in the first pla… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/22 02:23 AM |
| 8 | Why do women seem to be less bothered by being single than men?Most people are average, there isint any magical schism where we have a normal level of amazing women but a stark drought of amazing men. Most women are of average quality for relationships as are most men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 10:03 PM |
| 1 | Women’s dating preferences in a nutshellOk use whatever term you wish I'm saying "top 20% man" Sure I'll take this for granted. easy to become top 20%: just workout every day This is not feasible for a very large chunk of Americans including anyone who has health complications. There are other roadblocks such as access to a gym (home gyms are expensive and or take a lot of know how/space ) so they are immediately inaccessible to the majority of people since most people live in urban areas were space is at premium. That's why access to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 09:28 PM |
| 11 | Why do women seem to be less bothered by being single than men?You can if you have enough suitors. You get love by finding someone compatible for something long term. That kind of requires you to be exposed to many dating opportunities and that's almost universally a given for women. Also a good chunk of couples either start of as Fwb or started because the guy thought "wow shes cute I should go talk to her" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 08:26 PM |
| 2 | Women’s dating preferences in a nutshellI dont think HVM means "above average" in the context that most people here use it. It means "cream of the crop" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 08:17 PM |
| 1 | Young, hot (and submissive) women are at a major disadvantage when it comes to finding a LTR compared to older or less attractive womenBut an agreeable woman? Particularly one without much experience? I can see where your coming from. My only thing is the key here is "without much experience " that's only going to be a factor the first time and in extreme cases the second. After that and all the time in between she will be made aware of her options and be wary assuming she falls for it and ignore the advice of her peers | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 08:09 PM |
| 2 | Would you prefer your son be AF or BB ?Lmao true. Well I guess even if he gets settled and BB for the wife gets some resources and the mom gets grandkids so all is well 🥴 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 07:16 PM |
| 1 | Young, hot (and submissive) women are at a major disadvantage when it comes to finding a LTR compared to older or less attractive womenYeah expecting a young woman not to cave in a hypersexualized, pro-promiscurity culture is like expecting a young man to say no to a naked supermodel sprawled out on his bed. By "cave in" you mean enjoy consensual sex with a man of her choosing? Among who their are many choices? She isint caving in shes empowered as they say to fuck whoever she wants at any moment she wants. How is this possibly being narrated as problem if one guy wont wait there are plenty more who will after all you said your… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 07:10 PM |
| 1 | CHAD IS NOT THE ENEMY, LARRY ISI love everything about this comment | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 04:33 PM |
| 1 | Why are people against "fetishiszation" when online dating is exactly that?Ive only seen it discussed somewhat more now in the last few years to be honest while the topic racial fetishization for POC women has been a strongly discussed topic for decades My guess is that people are speaking about how it affects POC men more now due to the frequency of racial fetishization being a discussion topic for how it affects women and the discourse become mainstream enough for the men to be seen as well. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 04:05 PM |
| 1 | Why are people against "fetishiszation" when online dating is exactly that?Fetish: Oh, these women are freaky af. Let me make a move on her by comparing the color of her skin to an edible product, saying I want to eat her, and describing myself as the edible product my skin color correlates to. She'll love that. That's how her people communicate attraction right? Ok so A I completely agree with you on this. I've seen it to many times to account. My only thing people turn a blind eye to this when it's done to men over stuff like height /musculature especially to AA men … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 02:53 PM |
| 1 | Women’s dating preferences in a nutshellMarket valuation. he knows he has options and can more easily leave if the relationship is no longer making him happy without fear of being stuck alone/celibate for long periods of time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 02:41 PM |
| 1 | Young, hot (and submissive) women are at a major disadvantage when it comes to finding a LTR compared to older or less attractive womenI see it time and time again, young, hot women often get messed around and left on the shelf (unmarried) longer than their less attractive and older counterparts because they have too many men swarming them for their body. This gives them a lot more power and practice at vetting men and also as women like to claim here so often. Women crave sex just as much as men so if she has fwb she can seek out a relationship with them and in the worst case scenario she hasn't lost Anything. Also on top of a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 02:39 PM |
| 1 | RedPill - sexual deviancy and casual sex is bad for society. Why endorse it instead of building families?maybe you need to look in the mirror dude, you guys are literally mirroring the behavior of sluts and whores. its so feminine and weird Theres nothing that can be done so if you cant beat em join them | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 01:53 PM |
| 2 | RedPill - sexual deviancy and casual sex is bad for society. Why endorse it instead of building families?if its not worth it, why not try to change it? Trp men and men in general owe exactly as much to society as women do and not a single bit more. If women want to take the onus they can. Why expect more labour to be done by the men. I'm happy trp is allowing so many men to take advantage of hookup culture (which is led by the wants of women and primarily benefits them) so that those men can live their best life. Also I'f you believe the current sexual market is good and just and not an issue then … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 01:46 PM |
| 2 | Would 80/20 rules still exist in OLD if the gender ratios were balanced?Lmao | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/22 04:37 PM |
| 1 | What is something you genuinely find 'weird' and don't understand in modern dating/relationship/gender world?The hate is primarily from starvingly craving attention and affection and then observing the extreme difference in cost of entry to access those things for men and women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/22 07:37 AM |
| 7 | Would you prefer to have a single monogamous sexual relationship for your entire life with somebody you loved but only found moderately attractive. Or would be prefer to have an endless supply of causal sex with people you found extremely attractive but never formed an emotional bound with?How do you even come to this conclusion? Tate has millions of fans (probably hundreds of millions worldwide) So some arbitrary number of followers takes away from the type of life style he is trying to advertise and what he is saying? Your claim reads like sour grapes over Tate's popularity and influence. Ok | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/22 06:00 AM |
| 12 | Would you prefer to have a single monogamous sexual relationship for your entire life with somebody you loved but only found moderately attractive. Or would be prefer to have an endless supply of causal sex with people you found extremely attractive but never formed an emotional bound with?Redpills about putting in the work to get out of your position and not fall prey to the many ubspoken pitfalls of dating as a male bodied individual. What they chose to do with the agency that knowledge gives them is up to them. Most are looking for monogamy The only ones trying to convince themselves they are playboys are the tate crew. I dont support tate but if other redpill concepts help some guys get to that point more power to them. Edit: to the point of being able to be a "playboy" whatev… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/22 12:37 AM |
| 52 | Would you prefer to have a single monogamous sexual relationship for your entire life with somebody you loved but only found moderately attractive. Or would be prefer to have an endless supply of causal sex with people you found extremely attractive but never formed an emotional bound with?Monogamy. I dont think people realize a lot of RP dudes aim for short term plate spinning because stable mono commitment seems out of reach | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/22 12:13 AM |
| 1 | what is your gender and would you change your sexuality if you could.Only F tier because there isint a lower rating 💀 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/22 04:35 PM |
| 2 | what is your gender and would you change your sexuality if you could.apart from bringing needless pain and complication into my life. Guessing you had to deal with a lot of anti lgbt discrimination? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/22 09:20 PM |
| 2 | what is your gender and would you change your sexuality if you could.Ah understandable given those circumstances. I like people regardless of gender but always hated trying to attract women so having some more choice would of been nice | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/22 09:18 PM |
| 5 | what is your gender and would you change your sexuality if you could.I wish everyone was bisexual This is the dream right here I feel like the lions share of strained gender politics would quickly die off if everyone was bisexual. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/22 07:41 PM |
| 2 | Q4RP: If women are only attracted to hot and/or wealthy men then why are the majority of men still able to find relationships?GSS? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/22 07:13 PM |
| 2 | He didn't use you for sex. Sex as a female resource for social exchange in hetero interactionsMaking the rest of us jelly 😤 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/22 05:47 PM |
| 3 | CMV: A woman’s ideal in a man should be a -1/2 SMV and a +1/2 RMV.Most people dont use technical terms if they are naturals at it. You can measure it with metrics regarding how pursued or desired people with certain behaviour traits are compared to others and how they report their experiences compared to others | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/22 04:33 PM |
| 1 | Women project their ideals onto men too, and men feel pressured by them.No where did I claim that. When you generalize something you are taking common properties of instances of a thing and making a general claim. Saying people in general have enough risk to warrant putting on a condom is a generalization. Which is fine generalizations are an important tool and not intrinsically bad. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/22 04:08 PM |
| 1 | Women project their ideals onto men too, and men feel pressured by them.that doesn't mean that you think all women have STDs or even that you think most women have STDs It means you think in general there is enough risk to warrant putting them on when having sex with women.(same would go for men) Your rewording the scenario to avoid that but it still is a fundamental. but that's not generalizing that all non committed sexual encounters cause STDs. It's still making a generalization just not the specific one you worded . | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/22 03:59 PM |
| 1 | Women project their ideals onto men too, and men feel pressured by them.Why would they do this? There isn't even any precedent for this in matriarchal societies in history or the very few matriarchal tribal cultures that managed to survive to the modern day. If you could find credible examples of that then it would make more sense but I don't think women would ever sexualize men as a whole in the same way men do women. Unless idk 9 tenths of men just died off tomorrow or some ridiculous shit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/22 03:47 PM |
| 2 | Women project their ideals onto men too, and men feel pressured by them.Precautions literally require generalizations she is still assuming their is enough of a credible threat when dealing with men in general to warrant those precautions. All the same men take precautions in how they act and date when dealing with women in general. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/22 03:44 PM |
| 4 | Women project their ideals onto men too, and men feel pressured by them.I wish we didn't deliberately push men into the alt-right pipeline with "he blames women instead of himself, boo" as soon as we see a man being frustrated, while we are literally celebrating the fuck out of women being frustrated at men. I strongly believe that the non-sexist half of the world could improve a lot and prevent a chunk of alt-right radicalization by loosening up about this resistance against the idea of men having valid negative general feelings towards women. This is the issue, pe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/22 03:42 PM |
| 1 | This sub is horrible advice for online datingIt isn't. . Its possible for nearly all women just not at the same time Same deal with male improvement. Most men could get into the top 10% but not all at once. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/22 01:45 PM |
| 1 | This sub just doesn’t believe in loveAfter venturing to this sub more times than I’d care to mention, I now firmly believe the people that believe in TRP or any other pill just do not believe people can genuinely love each other. They do they just are realistic about its mechanics and condition. It’s all about a man getting sex or a women getting money from a relationship which is just not true, It is true when the person they are trying to get into from has a low RMV valuation. People fall in love and stay together cause they actu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/22 01:43 PM |
| 2 | This sub is horrible advice for online datingLmaooo I've been informed it's the eyeliner and the fact I have "melody" in my name. And also some of my comments are making men aware of their shitty situation. So I guess with my avatar it could just seem like a woman gloating about her birthright lmao | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/22 08:42 PM |
| 1 | This sub is horrible advice for online datinghttps://images.app.goo.gl/XoBQrRWTFSMGDY3w7 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/22 07:42 PM |
| 2 | This sub is horrible advice for online datingI'm a unfortunately a guy lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/22 07:37 PM |
| 2 | This sub is horrible advice for online datingOooof that's a hard L | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/22 07:25 PM |
| 2 | This sub is horrible advice for online datingFr What happens? 😳 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/22 07:23 PM |
| 1 | Dinner With Rollo Tomassi Tomorrow NightYes it is, I dont even remember the original persons name or tag I only saw them briefly but I couldn't help myself. Now I'm halalpilled | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/22 05:09 PM |
| 1 | Dinner With Rollo Tomassi Tomorrow NightThis exactly this. Redpill was the difference between living a life of loninless and finding love and intimacy whenever I wanted it. I cant thank the redpill enough for that and I'm happy to see younger men get a head start on it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/22 05:07 PM |
| 4 | This sub is horrible advice for online datingWoman "just leave him, you can do better" I mean to be fair women can almost always do better. There's always another 50 dudes to vet. But I agree the male advice is def damaging to a lot of young men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/22 05:05 PM |
| 1 | Women need to STOP being triggered by “the wall” and giving men power over them through fearYea I agree, I do notice that they do of course look different at that age and I think that does limit them from the super desirable dudes (which for a lot is the same as have no options) But the idea that they can suddenly expect good relationship material dudes to suddenly stop doing the work to court them and carry things forward just because they hit 30 is ridiculous. The only time I could imagine them having to put in the same work as a dude is if their in their 50s and still chasing men in… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/22 05:01 PM |
| 2 | Women need to STOP being triggered by “the wall” and giving men power over them through fearWell women are very aware that not much changes from 20s to 30s in terms of the fact that they will have tons of attention regardless of age So the wall isint an issue women have no reason to be afraid of it. That is unless their worried about the possibility of losing out on a specific cohort of guy right? So therefore nothing to worry about, supposedly desires are varied after all. 😉 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/22 04:35 PM |
| 5 | Woman frustrated at Hinge passes out "dating resumes" to men on the street with her photo, hobbies and interests. How can a woman be that desperate?We are 0% mad we just hella confused as to why she would need too. More power to her tho | /r/AllPillDebate | 08/09/22 03:56 PM |
| 3 | I shorter-average height guys need to learn how to use their height to their advantage.I'm almost certainly taller than you and can tell you their is 0 advantage to being short save for the monetary gains from needing less food. Many women who judge a guy as creepy or threatening have become to accustomed to just firing that word out with blind folds. If you have normal social awareness just ignore those women and their neuroticism. I almost certainly look more "threatening" than when I started working out yet it has the opposite effect of what you might expect OP. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/22 01:18 PM |
| 2 | Clean your room. (dating edition)Maybe I’d want him to be gay, too. But I’d be less terrified for him. It seems like heterosexual dating is the problem Lmao bassicly this yea. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/22 01:01 PM |
| 1 | The biggest problem with this sub is treating women as if they’re a monolithThe very fact that any sort of gaming strategy doesn’t even work on the majority of women is proof that women aren’t a monolith. And anything that is true cannot by definition be “blue pilled”. I care about There are still variables about the man that can negate and advantage from gaming strategy. Women can have pretty uniform preferences and still have a man only be acceptable to a small subset of them due to various market forces happening at that moment as well situational variables. Even if … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/22 06:13 AM |
| 14 | Women fuck emotionally distant men, and keep "good communicators" in the friendzoneThis isint Blackpill. It would be black pill if he said being unnatractie meant it was over even IF you could communicate. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/22 09:09 PM |
| 6 | Would Short Men (Under 5 ft 5) Have More Dating Opportunities In A Country Where The Average Woman Is Shorter?Yes but Geomaxxing doesn't work unless you intend to live there the rest of your life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/22 08:25 PM |
| 3 | Women fuck emotionally distant men, and keep "good communicators" in the friendzoneHow could above average social intelligence possibly be a low bar bro 💀 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/22 07:13 PM |
| 15 | Women fuck emotionally distant men, and keep "good communicators" in the friendzoneWell when say good communicator they usually mean *funny/interesting/entertaining *above average social intelligence *able and [willing] to perform emotional labour up to their standards. One of these obviously isn't necessary if you are emotional distance uncaring type and are just looking to smash | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/22 06:20 PM |
| 6 | Where did you get your opinions about women?Overall, I agree with askfeminists is one of the better subs here. For me, it gets frustrating when they write off all the bad behavior of other subs as not feminist. Ok, does that mean men can write off all the misogynists as not RP? My perspective of RP content is that it is limited to self improvement. All of the misogynist clickbait stuff (There's a lot) misses the mark and is not true RP. This is my exact frustration as well. Notice how I said in the "prescriptive" sense. It's a great tool … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/22 06:03 PM |
| 0 | Women if they want marriage have an obligation to start seriously looking for it from a young age and not waiting around, sleeping around, or "focusing on their career" in the meantime.I'd say this is pretty rare, the type that of dude seen by most women as a "dream guy" is pretty rare no doubt it happens but their just arent that many men that wanted. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/22 05:29 PM |
| 4 | Women if they want marriage have an obligation to start seriously looking for it from a young age and not waiting around, sleeping around, or "focusing on their career" in the meantime.Women do not need to do a single one of any of these things to find a man with his shit together so why would they listen to this advice. Anything they could get out of marriage they can also get single. Like this is bassicaly saying "no dont do X you'll be more likely to divorce or cheat on a man later in life" If they choose to do either of those things it will ultimately be their choice and wont really effect them negatively unless the spurned husband goes for a scorched earth policy. On top … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/22 05:23 PM |
| 1 | Purple Pillers, what would you have done to prevent this situation?Record record record. And archive EVERYTHING | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/22 03:14 PM |
| 0 | Where did you get your opinions about women?I know what's it called. And yes everyone has it but we notice and point it out when it is in excess which is why I brought it up. Excess from the norm anyway | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/22 02:54 PM |
| 3 | Where did you get your opinions about women?Both of those subreddits I do not think can be described as "feminist" in "prescriptive" sense. I think askfeminists is actually one of the few positive examples of somewhat equitable feminist communities on the internet actually. I do however dislike their attachment to blank slate and disregard for how much biology affects the genders but no. They are one of the better examples. Edit: honeslty FDS is to depressing to go on for me at this point. Though I will note when asked about it many women… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/22 02:38 PM |
| 2 | What's your unpopular opinion about women? Something you truly believe based on lived experience, but would get down voted to all hellThey interpret a lot of trp as being anti women because of unfortunately sizable minority of people like andrew tate. In reality trp is about best practices to ensure men understand women genuinely and can foster long lasting relationships with them and if not at least become men that women want to be with a sexually. Without trp those men would end up remaining as they are further shortening women's mate choices and giving more power to the "natruals" which in turn would make dating more diffic… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/22 02:33 PM |
| 2 | cmv: Women who strive to be with one man for life (aka marriage) are as rare as HVM, which are about 1% of the population.This isn’t true. Us women are taught about prince charming and living happily ever after since we were toddlers Men (mostly older generations such as millenials) also taught the same meme but you can see how its died in the last 20 years. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/22 02:28 PM |
| 1 | Why do women participate in the hook-up culture if they aren't getting the outcomes they want?Because they are getting the outcomes they want. Participation for women isint like men where it's a light switch of (ugga uggs me get sex) or their stuck as sexless for years at a time. Its more of a spectrum. Ranging from being able to secure a really valuable dude. To just having amazing sex with attractive people to having sex that really is not up to your standards. But in all of those cases your getting varying levels of intimacy pleasure and validation. Any and all changes in the dating m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/22 02:26 PM |
| 6 | Q4RP: If women are only attracted to hot and/or wealthy men then why are the majority of men still able to find relationships?Because those men eventually run out and so women are forced to slowly and painfully change their standards if they indeed can. Which a growing number can not anyway. Also consider a 2/10 women is probably going to see a 5/10 6/10 man as a good settling point so hypergamy only really will make it very difficult for the bottom 30% of men or so to be settled by anybody at least for a time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/22 02:04 PM |
| 7 | Where did you get your opinions about women?I feel like the internet has something to do with it. The internet has a lot to do with everything. Where do guys learn not to like feminism? I've observed how they speak amongst themselves in their online communities pages and in groups at university. Their have comically poor standards for anything that validates their world view but impossibly high ones for anything that challenges it. They are often right about things but they hate to be wrong. I would like a world with gender equity but as … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/22 02:00 PM |
| 3 | What is your opinion on men who will not marry women whose parents are divorced?If they have ability to chose I support them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/22 01:39 PM |
| 18 | Is increased porn use a cause or symptom of sexlessness?Yea but only women are allowed to explore and share their desires with others 🤣👌 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/22 01:37 PM |
| – | What's your unpopular opinion about women? Something you truly believe based on lived experience, but would get down voted to all hellIf the genders where flipped but people maintained their personality nearly every women would be in the bottom 5% of current men attraction wise because they never had to cultivate enough advantages to make up for being born with a penis. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/22 01:30 PM |
| 2 | What's your unpopular opinion about women? Something you truly believe based on lived experience, but would get down voted to all hellHuman attraction isint that diverse in aggregate. Most women who are genuinely happy with their partners given that the partner is not generically attractive are usually only so because they have been made unaware of their true options. Often caused by stuff like being victims of trauma and jumped on the best (non abusive/safe appearing) option out there. That and briffaults law. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/22 01:26 PM |
| 2 | What's your unpopular opinion about women? Something you truly believe based on lived experience, but would get down voted to all hellWomen dont intiate not of fear of being "used" but because Intiation is terrifying and requires work they are unwillingly to do. They would rather let men shoulder those burdens. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/22 01:25 PM |
| 2 | What's your unpopular opinion about women? Something you truly believe based on lived experience, but would get down voted to all hellI think the average women behaves pathologically selfish in the dating. Though I dont think its primarily because they are naturally inclined to do so. But because all humans are selfish its just women more often than men have the power and means to act on their selfishness. And the willingness of society to downplay and apologize for them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/22 01:22 PM |
| 1 | Romantic/Spousal relationship is redundant if you've found peace/contentment in being single.And that above statement of yours proves my point that most people who're in relationship are also confused on why they're not being happier compared to when they were single. Because if you're okay being single, then the only reason you wanna enter a relationship is to be happier, richer, or something to gain out of it, right? Responding to an incentive means you are confused about why your not happier??? How did you get fro. A to B here? Most people who're entering a relationship making the mi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/09/22 03:40 PM |
| 5 | Watching porn is the same as cheatingSo, in your mind, a relationship includes the right to control the biological functions of your partner? While I agree on all your other points. My issue is any boundary you set can fall under a definition. Freedom and autonomy are not always inherently good in every instance. Telling your partner not to fuck another women is also controlling their biological functions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/09/22 03:10 PM |
| 1 | Romantic/Spousal relationship is redundant if you've found peace/contentment in being single.Relationships are being highly romanticized especially in books/movie. Especially true in social media. We're seeing the highlight reels of others who have achieved stability (seemingly) in relationship and are posting their fun moments on Instagram, but we don't know how much of time & effort were spent on taking that relationship into the next level. Or even if the couples are honestly happy, or merely posting their photos just for the sake of it. Sure but after a persons first relationship th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/09/22 03:07 PM |
| 2 | people who have high n-count, do you find it difficult to maintain ltr relationships?No but a previous partner did something awful that I count as cheating even if it doesnt technically fall under the umbrella | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/09/22 05:52 PM |
| 2 | people who have high n-count, do you find it difficult to maintain ltr relationships?Dont knock it till you try it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/09/22 02:55 PM |
| 1 | Is it hard to admit that you weren’t dateable when you were younger?People are selfish in selecting partners. Now I am too on principle. When I was younger I was very confident that I could find someone I was at least I believe somewhat physically attractive and I had plenty of friends of both genders. I dated one girl but didnt like how much power and control she gave people she dated so after a month I ended things. I tried dating later on, no luck. I tried OLD and I'm not going to go into details but it was an extremely negative experience and it left me embi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/09/22 02:11 PM |
| 7 | people who have high n-count, do you find it difficult to maintain ltr relationships?No my partner let's me swing and swings with me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/09/22 01:53 PM |
| 2 | What will happen to current dating situation in the future ?Want those men learn tips to mask their pitfalls enough to still have sex and spread their seed? That is the natural and normal consequence of turning the dating market into a superstar economy. Human beings respond to incentives and men that have no way to escape the sexual underclass will quickly pass knowledge down on how to improve their situation. Unfortunately some of those men will be the violent types. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/09/22 01:51 PM |
| 1 | QFM: If your GF/Wife said you had to go through a birth pain simulator in order to have kids (for anywhere between 2-30 hours randomly picked) would you do it?Ok so let's take for granted the magnitude of this is as great as you believe. You can petition for better education on the topic rather than turning to torture rituals to alter mens feelings about pregnancy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/09/22 12:34 PM |
| 1 | QFM: If your GF/Wife said you had to go through a birth pain simulator in order to have kids (for anywhere between 2-30 hours randomly picked) would you do it?In terms of dating? Most people especially women dont care and actively downplay or disregard what men go through in that arena. So a mutual degradation of empathy is natural. In general? They care but not enough to downplay or give those struggles automatic precedent over mens struggles and I feel that's what is meant by DGAF about what women go through. Even still most people don't care that much about others outside of the 150 or so people they can keep in memory. Despite that they almost cer… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/22 08:33 PM |
| 1 | QFM: If your GF/Wife said you had to go through a birth pain simulator in order to have kids (for anywhere between 2-30 hours randomly picked) would you do it?What is the end game here exactly. I will empathize instead of sympathizing with you and that's worth requiring a partner to have your pain replicated onto them? So that they what? Feel sorry for you? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/22 07:48 PM |
| 2 | QFM: If your GF/Wife said you had to go through a birth pain simulator in order to have kids (for anywhere between 2-30 hours randomly picked) would you do it?Right? It's still the fact that she thinks this is a reasonable transaction that worries me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/22 06:30 PM |
| 1 | QFM: If your GF/Wife said you had to go through a birth pain simulator in order to have kids (for anywhere between 2-30 hours randomly picked) would you do it?*you should endure some arbitrary value of pain in order to empathize with my experience even though your already capable of sympathizing with it. " Why is that were the line is for volunteer suffering in order to serve others? Step into a machine that allows you to relieve traumatic events from your husband's past as well. Including experiencing whatever neurosis are currently plaguing him. Jesus christ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/22 06:29 PM |
| 2 | QFM: If your GF/Wife said you had to go through a birth pain simulator in order to have kids (for anywhere between 2-30 hours randomly picked) would you do it?No because that's sociopathetic and controlling. What possible good can come from having pain replicated. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/22 04:17 PM |
| 2 | The shameful Natasha Aponte experiment, "The Tinder Trap", shows just how desperate men are and how much choice women have.Why? Was she a bit gullible? Sure but she's hardly undeserving of empathy. I'm really surprised by this response because the victimized party in this scenario is even a woman on top of everything | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/22 02:29 PM |
| 3 | What observations do you get from an average girl having her pick of men? What does this say to you about women’s standards for men and what can men learn from it? Does this debunk the idea looks don’t matter?You know what I find hilarious, if women are not picky they are shamed mercilessly and dehumanised for being sluts (high n count) or played. Its because they often are played by the same subset of men over and over again. Its gross to see. And kinda of depressing to know they will keep pining after the men with the most options and therefore least incentive to give them commitment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/22 02:25 PM |
| 7 | What observations do you get from an average girl having her pick of men? What does this say to you about women’s standards for men and what can men learn from it? Does this debunk the idea looks don’t matter?Right but the men in the gender reversed versions are usually FAR from average. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/22 02:22 PM |
| 1 | Men would you feel insecure if a girl wanted to incorporate dildos/penis sleeves in the bedroom?Yea because they have those customizable ones that can simulate knotting/other weird furry shit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/22 03:41 AM |
| 1 | Men would you feel insecure if a girl wanted to incorporate dildos/penis sleeves in the bedroom?Topping usually means being the one to penetrate | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/22 03:37 AM |
| 1 | Men would you feel insecure if a girl wanted to incorporate dildos/penis sleeves in the bedroom?Mah I love that shit 👌😫. Honeslty prefer it over topping | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/22 03:07 AM |
| 1 | Does it really boil down to looks as far as what makes a woman a potential partner vs a best friend?Have you ever asked them directly on a date or made romantic intentions clear. Or do you infer this indirectly | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/22 04:42 PM |
| 1 | Many women would probably be struggling with dating if they were menI mean he might be considered more attractive on some arbitrary scale sure. But to what end? For all his masculinity His ability to participate in relationships or have a sex life is still going to be predicated by his ability to court. hes going to have to have social mastery confidence ect ect.. if he wants to have options. his female counterpart doesn't have to put in any of that work . The work she does have to put in is being good at sorting through all her options at any paticulat moment. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/22 09:45 AM |
| 1 | Many women would probably be struggling with dating if they were menThat doesn't matter, your acting like a very masculine/attractive dude has more options for relationship/sex as an average or below average women. That's just ridiculous. Those men "doing better" are probably putting in work to create opportunities for success. If they were women masculine as hell or not this wouldn't be necessary. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/22 09:34 AM |
| 1 | Q4A: Do you believe some people shouldn’t bother trying even basic general improvements? Why?Yes there is definitely a point in which your beating a dead horse. I think particularly unattractive men and only men that also struggle socially are probably fucked the worst. I would "seek happiness in other places"™️ in a situation like this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/22 12:24 AM |
| 1 | Many women would probably be struggling with dating if they were menAnd some would be more successful if they were men. My family, for example, are tall, strong, loud and assertive, which tends to play more into a male ideal and as such the men tend to do better than the women. No they wouldn't. Even with benefits upon benefits they would still be men sure they would do leaps and bounds better than other men. But even a below average woman still is a woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/22 12:22 AM |
| 8 | How much do you agree with the following sentence?I strongly agree, I've made quite a few post wayyyy back where i described redpill ideas in the most misandric and gynocentric way possible. And women seemed to devouring it whole sale. Where as many RP men lashed out at me (helps that my pfp looks female) it's all ego investments and packinging. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/22 08:52 PM |
| 1 | Men who only LTR exceptionally low n women while being promiscuous themselves generally make for bad partners.The sexual market determines your valuation in that context. Not any moral or value judgements. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/22 08:09 PM |
| 14 | Men who only LTR exceptionally low n women while being promiscuous themselves generally make for bad partners.“High n women are dirty/used up/gross/defiled, etc.” — He thinks of sex as something dirty, Possibly? and of women as something to conquer and defile. This doesn't follow He believes himself and all other men to be dirty as well, because when women have sex with men, it soils them and degrades their value. Why only sex with men? The original premise you had was that an exception was made for men who see sex as sacred. It follows if you see sex as sacred it's going to be more sacred when done wit… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/22 05:32 PM |
| 2 | "Just get a social circle bro" is very outdated adviceWell I've learned emulating women actually helps if your already attractive. Idk why it does tho. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/22 03:19 PM |
| 1 | "Just get a social circle bro" is very outdated adviceTrue but very few % of men probably employ this strategy. Not all women will be squicked. And theres plenty of events. Like all things with courting women it's a brutal numbers game | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/22 03:18 PM |
| 1 | "Just get a social circle bro" is very outdated adviceI'd avoid that in the beginning. There are good strategies for getting women to lower their guard in situations like that. Such as approaching a much older and unattractive women first. I feel like a lot of guys just bum rush in situations like that not realizing how meticulous the process is | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/22 03:15 PM |
| 1 | "Just get a social circle bro" is very outdated adviceA little over 6'4 🌲 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/22 02:25 PM |
| 1 | "Just get a social circle bro" is very outdated advice🤣 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/22 02:22 PM |
| 2 | "Just get a social circle bro" is very outdated adviceWho gives a fuck what they want. Don't go in looking thirsty. Play the part. Your there to build social repoire access social circles with favourable gender distributions and also potentially enjoy whatever hobby there is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/22 02:18 PM |
| 1 | "Just get a social circle bro" is very outdated adviceWell you gotta optimize in every area. Sometimes even the bluepill can blunder into the correct answer. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/22 02:16 PM |
| 8 | "Just get a social circle bro" is very outdated adviceWhat happened to "You shouldn't join events only to find women" This sounds like dating advice a woman would give a man. Join whatever events optimize towards your hoals. And yes I agree men are unlikely to enjoy most female dominated circles. But all of them? Nah there's gotta be a few. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/22 02:06 PM |
| 3 | "Just get a social circle bro" is very outdated advicePpfft i wish! I'm not, I'm just an extremely tall man so I have a perhaps somewhat unrealistic measure of how bad things truelly are for the average guy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/22 02:02 PM |
| 10 | "Just get a social circle bro" is very outdated advicePurposefully chose social hobby circles with a gender skew in your favour and profit. Yall really be acting like it's this complicated. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/22 01:57 PM |
| 1 | I believe the reason men are so resentful about the dating scene is because men have to deal with a shit ton of social coercion and pressure to be in a relationship like 10x that of womenMen tying their value to their sexual success? I really fucking hate this narrative that it's simply a male thing to tie ones value to sexual success and that's the root of the issue. In reality people human beings want to be affirmed as sexual and romantic beings wanting to be wanted in those ways is a core part of being human for most humans. Not just patriarchal burden that will magically evaporate once we reach some arbitrary level of gender "equity". Is there a cultural part in it? Sure! Bu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/22 01:17 PM |
| 24 | Dating After 30 - The Dating Flip - Does It Exist?Yep bassicly this. There is no age where the grind can surpass the raw unbridled value of just being born a woman. That being said the grind is still important | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/22 03:51 PM |
| 2 | Dating After 30 - The Dating Flip - Does It Exist?Yea I've noticed that early 20s I struggled no dates nothing. Now mid 20s I'm in an open relationship and enjoying the freedom very much. Hope to pass down what I know to the younger men as well. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/22 03:49 PM |
| 2 | Dating After 30 - The Dating Flip - Does It Exist?Yea but that's equivalent to have 0 options for them | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/22 03:46 PM |
| 2 | So sex is seeming more and more transactional these days. Who’s to blame?But sex is almost always seen as something the woman gives but what is she gonna get in return? Seems a little unfair since both parties are in fact getting sex but that’s besides the point. Yea but she's getting sex with a man something that is abundantly available. The reverse is not the true Why are things like this? Are men such objectifying dogs that they just need things to be transactional? Are men usually desperate with shit self esteem? Are women taking advantage and actually to blame? … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/22 03:20 PM |
| 3 | Evolutionary psychological findings on sex differences could be interpreted socioculturallyIt's the mutual responsibility of both parties. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/22 02:41 PM |
| 6 | If could use just 1 (one) argument to convince someone from the opposite pill about the validity of your own pill, what would that argument be?No it doesnt. Blue pill constantly hits you with just "just be yourself"™️ which doesnt work for men in most cases. Redpill teaches you that your value to women isint going to be seen unless you are able to project confidence and masculinity and that it's ok to do so even if its inauthentic because it will help long term. Blue pill gives ambiguous advice on "working on yourself" and just be social. Redpill tells you quickest and overriding route to options is to hit the gym like crazy. And to op… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/22 03:10 PM |
| 2 | If could use just 1 (one) argument to convince someone from the opposite pill about the validity of your own pill, what would that argument be?No it isint he references the stuff in his profile in the chats throughout all the conversations and directs people to it. Frequently | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/22 03:00 PM |
| 2 | What if some people just want to play the field? For funNothing wrong with it. Dont look for validation from women on ppd just live your life man 🤣 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/22 03:05 PM |
| 4 | A man needs above average sexually dymorphic qualities to be attractive, women don'tThat's litteraly the tiktok enby thirst trap grind that yields. Fr fr on god. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/22 05:30 PM |
| 2 | The other sex really is the opposition.Enemy no. But understanding what women are truelly filtering for and what to do and say to not get filtered out or detected will help you with all women Thankfully theres no scarcity of examples of women talking about men without social awareness who happened to be RP so theres plenty of source material to yield from. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/22 05:20 PM |
| 3 | Most men have low or zero standards?"Oh you dont want to date someone who has MY preferences . Sounds like you just want an inflatable sex doll instead of a human being" Jesus sometimes jokes write themselves | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/22 05:11 PM |
| 17 | Red Pill men gotta stop putting pussy on a pedestal.they act like a woman’s sex organ is enough to bring entire empires to its knees. To be fair this has happened plenty of times in history. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/22 02:18 AM |
| 2 | You don't need a high level of emotional intelligence, you just need to know "the rules".The same as it is before the way people speak about emotional intelligence they speak of it as if having it be what makes a person inately deserving of love and companionship rather than simply innately more likely to have it in their lives. People with heavy dark triad traits are able to get these things much easier than normal people so its dangerous to equate emotional intelligence with a persons moral worth. It actively devalues people on a number of spectrums and allows people who are conve… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/22 07:15 PM |
| 2 | You don't need a high level of emotional intelligence, you just need to know "the rules".Water is wet. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/22 07:05 PM |
| 1 | Women think they have it harder in romantic interactions with men because they compare themselves to the highest SMV menI am referring to it as I observed you using it in the context of your reply. You replied that people make sacrifices for "family" when I brought up that the sacrifice the mother makes is primarily for her children. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/22 06:59 PM |
| 2 | You don't need a high level of emotional intelligence, you just need to know "the rules".That's my point theres a myriad of brain structural things that have little to do with a person's moral character but will nuke their ability to attract a partner if they happen to be male. It isint that easy. I dont have autism but it's hard for me to understand human interaction and my level of compassionate empathy is very variable. I wanted so bad to just "get it" but I never did and the mimicry route unironically got me to where I wanted to be dating wise. That's why I think saying you just… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/22 06:39 PM |
| 3 | You don't need a high level of emotional intelligence, you just need to know "the rules".It's very difficult depending on a persons mental faculties and neurological profile. I remember a post from a guy who was autistic a month ago? Where he was exclaiming frustration about how he felt he had to being very fake in order to succeed socially with women do to his autism. I suppose that depends on how you define faking though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/22 06:28 PM |
| 3 | Women think they have it harder in romantic interactions with men because they compare themselves to the highest SMV menYea I'm pretty sure if you make a sacrifice like that it is primarily for your child not some abstract notion of the "family" that's just called being a good parent. Just as the father might sacrifice time with his children to make money to support his children. Saying that it's just for the "family" seems a little disingenuous especially considering these life style changes imply childbirth as a prerequisite. Now taking care if another family members child would make more sense to label as a sa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/22 06:16 PM |
| 6 | What are the future consequences of RP going mainstream?A women probably post memes making other women aware of it and share memes and opinion pieces about men like that and what signs too look out for. Which will be seen/read by the same men and they will learn what to hide. On and on the cycle continues. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/22 06:06 PM |
| 2 | Why do you think gay men and lesbians don't need to use red pill, fds and debate on subs like this?Lesbian and gay folx dont interact with a skewed gender power dynamic when they are dating. They have their own issues. But there isn't any inherent intersexual competition or gender role dynamics to fuck things up further. One thing that I think lesbian and gay individuals have over hetero's is that they are much more cognizant of the important of looks. There isn't another gender to lie to in your dating pool about your actions vs what you say your actions are. One thing I have always wondered… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/22 03:37 PM |
| 6 | Women think they have it harder in romantic interactions with men because they compare themselves to the highest SMV mensacrifice careers to stay with partners, sacrifice to raise for children How is the woman raising her own kids a sacrifice for her partner it's a sacrifice for her kids who obviously should be put first. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/22 09:35 AM |
| 9 | This trend of women feeling entitled to a man of much higher SMV will end up with a lot of women getting cheated on and/or replaced.Just to be clear I'm not just picking at women here. A lot of you guys are settling for women you dont actually like. It's just women and men responding to too many or too little choices i'm not making any moral arbitrations over it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/22 04:26 PM |
| 41 | This trend of women feeling entitled to a man of much higher SMV will end up with a lot of women getting cheated on and/or replaced.They dont see a difference 7/10 times | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/22 01:12 PM |
| 4 | Men dont deserve a body positivity movementWoah the misogyny is out in full force today. Lol dude you do know its a JOKE when women say kill all men. How do we know this? women hardly ever kill men. Yet men rape, domestically abuse, murder, kidnap and molest women. So STFU. Its not a joke it's a repetition and normalization of an sentiment that makes light of violence against men. Imagine if the genders were reversed it qoildnt stand. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/22 06:00 AM |
| 1 | do women envy men in dating?True that lmao | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/22 05:19 AM |
| 2 | Guys complain about being lonely/sexless but isn't it just survival of the fittest?You wanna be kind to Cruz Roger and Ramos? Blood on your hands. Let your sister fuck them. How did you come to that conclusion from the post. Ans why did you edit this in after I replied??? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/22 03:49 AM |
| 5 | Guys complain about being lonely/sexless but isn't it just survival of the fittest?Actually no, I saw the lack of empathy given and realized being selfish was better. I have opportunities because I chose to put myself first and RP helped with that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/22 03:46 AM |
| 1 | Guys complain about being lonely/sexless but isn't it just survival of the fittest?Dude no. Hateful people need to remain outside society because they don’t contribute to the common good at all, the contribute to the common bad. I’ve seen three in this sub today who deserve to be banned from public discourse. Hateful people need to do whatever the fuck they damn want within reason. Your speaking from a place of privilege. Hate does not come from a vacuum it is not entitlement it as a natural response to an observation of selfishness apathy and privilege. They dont contribute t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/22 03:43 AM |
| 1 | Guys complain about being lonely/sexless but isn't it just survival of the fittest?Hateful people like all others deserve compassion and empathy and are not devoid of it themselves. Sounds a lot better than "Ahh you got hate in your heart? Well fuck you I got mine!" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/22 03:25 AM |
| 3 | Guys complain about being lonely/sexless but isn't it just survival of the fittest?No one deserves anything. If you can dismiss a persons experiences on them being hateful it's just more evidence that people especially men should put themselves first even more. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/22 02:42 AM |
| 14 | Guys complain about being lonely/sexless but isn't it just survival of the fittest?What an awful thing to say, the damage is so many human beings falling through the cracks and being divorced from such a fundamental human experience with all it's dark implications at a time when they should be discovering who their are romantically and sexually. And you go ahead and demonize them claiming some mythical "lack of empathy" is their failing. Newsflash dark triad traits and sociopaths arent the ones struggling in the dating market. Plenty of women lack social capacity too but this … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/22 02:37 AM |
| 6 | FDS (female dating scam) and the irony of how women always say the manosphere only exists to scam young men out of moneyThey dont even have to be likeable in most circumstances. Idk what is up most people on FDS. They seem to of have a string of very bad partners or something. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/08/22 09:09 PM |
| 2 | FDS (female dating scam) and the irony of how women always say the manosphere only exists to scam young men out of moneyThe market determines if you are "high value " or not not people on sidelines angry about peoples internal beliefs. Plenty of the most sought after men have outwardly negative views of women and probably more internally as well. The difference is those who act on those views/beliefs and those who broadcast them publically to their peers irl. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/08/22 09:08 PM |
| 1 | men who went from scarcity to abundance. What did it cost you.That's fair, thank you for letting me know. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/08/22 12:07 AM |
| 1 | as a woman, what is the first thign that attracted you abt your bf ?That's mostly conditioning or the man is extremely adept at manipulation. The second they realize their power that dynamic flips. You are level headed, you have a more and better options than you realize. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/08/22 12:04 AM |
| 1 | How many of you have DNA tested your child, do you plan on it if you have kids?So you disagree with prenuptials as well then? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/08/22 12:01 AM |
| 1 | men who went from scarcity to abundance. What did it cost you.Did it tho | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/22 11:56 PM |
| 1 | men who went from scarcity to abundance. What did it cost you.I'd say it depends. I respect myself more for leaving the moral spooks that limited my beliefs and allowed me to synthesize something between red and blue pill that worked for me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/22 08:39 PM |
| 1 | men who went from scarcity to abundance. What did it cost you.If I reincarnate as a male I'm suing the mortuary 💀 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/22 07:32 PM |
| 8 | men who went from scarcity to abundance. What did it cost you.Holy shit man, This was inspiring, I felt a mix of awe motivation and dread reading through this. Thank you for the response. What compromised your hours of learning to be more charismatic and attractive to women out of curiosity. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/22 07:26 PM |
| 4 | how many (gen Z) men do you think subscribe to red/black pill ideas. how many women(Gen Z) do you think subscribe to FDS/pinkpillI think redpill is getting more popular in response to our generation seeing the bluepilled polyamorous Millennials causing scenes in public spaces with their polycules (at least where I live that seems to be a normal occurrence). Honestly I hadn't considered this to be something others had noticed. But yea watching the poly community its dynamics and the usual results for the younger millennial crowd made me very wary. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/22 03:53 PM |
| 1 | what do you see as the dividing line between the blue and red pills?Misogyny and misandry are also mainstream in different ways. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/22 03:03 PM |
| 12 | what do you see as the dividing line between the blue and red pills?Redpill More genetic determinism, accepts that men and women are reproductively slaved to their biological urges. In the same way we are to other primal aspects of our human nature. Yes we can suppress them to live in polite society but will act on them outside of that paradigm. So acknowledging the primacy of looks/female hypergamy/male desire for polygamy/plate spinning ect. Honestly observing women's actual behavior regardless if acknowledging certain behaviors offends women or not. Act in yo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/22 03:02 PM |
| 3 | Sex/relatioships!Holy mother of doxxing | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/22 11:28 PM |
| 3 | [Question4All] would you date someone who doesnt match your vaccine status?😆 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/22 11:27 PM |
| 6 | Do most men lack basic decency?No this is ridiculous most humans are average and men are human beings. The difference is that men need to have a high competency in a WIDE variety of areas and attractiveness to boot if they wish to have even a few options before their late 20s/30s. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/22 09:02 PM |
| 5 | (The elephant in the room) Why a fun sex life and a stable long term monogamous relationship can't occur together. The madonna-whore complex applied to IRLLmaooo | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/22 08:46 PM |
| 4 | Are claims of entitlement usually deflections that allow people to not have to take ownership for their behavior? Or the party they are defending?It seems to like so, more than anything it shows a complete disinterest in anything but self serving behavior. Which makes me see less and less incentive towards acting in good faith and not encouraging men to be equally selfish. We only have one life to live after all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/22 08:45 PM |
| 1 | Being boring, uninteresting, not having a lot of things to talk about, not having hobbies, etc can be a bigger turn off than being ugly.If your attractive enough they will find you interesting. Heres my strategy. Pic up a few hobbies that are flashy/interesting enough to pique interest in women. Consume media. On how to persuade people and utilize psychological means to make people like you and feel engaged. The goal is to simulate an idealized well rounded masculine everyman type. Make the conversation all about her and whatever she likes /wants to talk about while maintaining frame and throwing in the occasional interesting ti… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/22 07:56 PM |
| 7 | Being boring, uninteresting, not having a lot of things to talk about, not having hobbies, etc can be a bigger turn off than being ugly.She is the table 😆 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/22 07:45 PM |
| 1 | The concept of "the bar is in hell" is a psychological prison for men.This right this If your going to almost exclusively go after this type of guy, and all your girlfriends are he has 0 incentive to change in any other way. Just as you have 0 incentive to change for the average man. More power to the guys who have upgraded themselves to this point ❤ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/22 07:35 PM |
| 3 | The concept of "the bar is in hell" is a psychological prison for men.Women set the bar so low by having such a high a bar for who they'll pursue in general. If your the type of guy that passes every hypergamous filter than the bar is lower for you in other respects. And good more power to you! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/22 07:33 PM |
| 1 | Blue Pillers, What Is Your Most Surprisingly Red-Pill Take? Red Pillers, What Is Your Most Surprisingly Blue-Pill Take?True but presumably she is unhappy and we know the consequences of that | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/22 03:32 PM |
| 3 | Blue Pillers, What Is Your Most Surprisingly Red-Pill Take? Red Pillers, What Is Your Most Surprisingly Blue-Pill Take?That makes a lot more sense actually. My only question is, why is it considered to be a good thing. Preseumedly men dont want to be settled for. It could be that after 10 years+ of dating as a man being settled for is better? It just seems like falling prey to AF/BB with extra steps | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/22 02:55 PM |
| 6 | homosexual behaviors in women and loneliness in menIn your 20s? I'd say its gotta be less than 15%. Not impossible to smash once every few years if your outside that range but I wouldn't be surprised if there were a lot more sexless men too | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/22 02:43 PM |
| 8 | homosexual behaviors in women and loneliness in menA small subset of men | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/22 02:28 PM |
| 1 | People need to stop saying men are lonely because of their personality.False Idk why people pretend unattractive men want unattractive women They do not They would rather complain about womens standards online than be with an ugly woman I'm really curious why you say that though. Because generally speaking if you just walk out to any generic large store you'll see a lot of couples were both parties are unattractive. Also I've noticed a common strategy employed in incel communities is to purposeful date down in appearance as much as possible in the Hope's that the w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/22 02:24 PM |
| 4 | People need to stop saying men are lonely because of their personality.It's true but you shouldnt say it. Wouldnt want too many men to abandon the idea of being good worker little drones. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/22 02:02 PM |
| 1 | Alpha/beta behaviour depends on appearance and testosterone. Women in their ovulation stage tend to choose very masculine men with good genetics for casual sex and after that stage they will choose less masculine men for a "serious" relationship, this is nothing more than the alpha/beta dynamic.If such a thing were true, why is humanity mainly monogamous and not structured to have two partners for two different roles for every woman. Because such a system is inherently unstable on a civilizational level. So monogamy was enforced and normalized as a way to deal with that. A bunch of young disgruntled men coming up empty handed is a massive liability. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/22 01:56 PM |
| 3 | Have you ever tried to approach a guy you had interest in? How did it turn out?Yea I want a heterosexual relationship not a "hetero normative" one. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/22 01:53 PM |
| 1 | People need to stop saying men are lonely because of their personality.No there are not. Unless they have some extremely anomalous circumstances they can always use OLD. Inb4 "but guys swipe right on everyone! And unmatched later " Plenty of men will not unmatch. Youd be suprised the absolute horrendous treatment you can dish out to men in messenger and still have them pursue. A woman like that has options. Even without that a very unattractive woman will always be able to lock down at least an unattractive guy her age. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/22 01:51 PM |
| 2 | People need to stop saying men are lonely because of their personality.That is extremely abnormal | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/22 01:48 PM |
| 1 | People need to stop saying men are lonely because of their personality.That's what I was saying women really can't conceptualize the reference point of having NO options. I look at where I am now. and look back and think had I not had the experiences I did in my teens and up to 21 i would of had a very bluepilled perspective on dating. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/22 01:18 PM |
| 2 | Blue Pillers, What Is Your Most Surprisingly Red-Pill Take? Red Pillers, What Is Your Most Surprisingly Blue-Pill Take?Fair point, that just seems like why bother at that point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/22 01:15 PM |
| 1 | People need to stop saying men are lonely because of their personality.What the fuck. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/22 04:55 AM |
| 15 | People need to stop saying men are lonely because of their personality.That's what I'm saying, men really cannot handle how replaceable and over abudant their commitment and intimacy is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/22 04:14 AM |
| 4 | Have you ever tried to approach a guy you had interest in? How did it turn out?My partner approached me. Love her to death. Find it funny how the women responding had a taste of what courtship is like as a man and threw their hands in the air. Must be nice. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/22 04:09 AM |
| 13 | Have you ever tried to approach a guy you had interest in? How did it turn out?Men do not respect the hot dog on the ground. They only respect things they have to work for This is a human trait, to be fair, not just a man trait. No one respects free shit Nah I'd say the opposite I have way more respect for a woman who approaches goes after what she wants rather than #127 that I had to do the usual male bullshit of pulling out the stops for. Once you get good at "game" it's the same song and dance time and time again. Why would I want to be with someone I can only be with t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/22 04:07 AM |
| 1 | are women allowed to have fun in their youth according to the red pillFuck I love this | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/22 03:25 AM |
| 7 | People need to stop saying men are lonely because of their personality.Bro milfs and "mature " are as popular as they are for a reason. Actually listen to the older women on this sub when the wall is brought up. You'll see what I mean. Better yet use an older womans picture and make a dating profile set the age range you want to 20s and see what happens I dare you. You will find decent looking dudes thinking about an LTR. I'm a man i swear lmao. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/22 03:12 AM |
| 45 | Blue Pillers, What Is Your Most Surprisingly Red-Pill Take? Red Pillers, What Is Your Most Surprisingly Blue-Pill Take?Pretty redpilled but l genuinely do not believe in the wall. Even an unattractive single mom with an attitude is gonna run circles around an average to above average guy in terms of desirability. There is no age where the gender power dynamic evens out or even flips for that matter. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/22 03:09 AM |
| 6 | People need to stop saying men are lonely because of their personality.Nah I'm unfortunately a guy. Believe me I wish more than anything that wasnt the case but it is 😔. I just have come to terms with the reality with these types of things. There is no age where men and women have equitable smv/rmv except maybe your 70s because all the men are fucking dead at that point🤧 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/22 02:58 AM |
| 2 | If a very desperate person finally got into a relationship, what kind of abuse or mistreatment do you think they'd tolerate?Lmaooo | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/22 02:54 AM |
| 0 | If a very desperate person finally got into a relationship, what kind of abuse or mistreatment do you think they'd tolerate?Kinda want a link now. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/22 02:53 AM |
| 11 | If a very desperate person finally got into a relationship, what kind of abuse or mistreatment do you think they'd tolerate?I don't think sex is what he wants at that point. Sex can be purchased. Convincing companionship not really. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/22 02:51 AM |
| 1 | People need to stop saying men are lonely because of their personality.By personality they mean confidence and enough eq to successfully counter shit tests lmao. But yes looks are still the driving point. Dont overthink shit dude. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/22 02:40 AM |
| 21 | People need to stop saying men are lonely because of their personality.Bruh no they aren't. Their enjoying attention from men in their 20s 30s 40s and 50s. Enough with the revenge fantasies 🤣🤣 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/22 02:39 AM |
| 1 | I'm starting to consider whether this subreddit is actually useful.If you really want to get good at dating. First and foremost study psychology. There are tons of good books YouTube channels and other research. Then obviously get your money muscle and motivation up. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/22 02:21 AM |
| 0 | It's easy to know if you date down or up by how much you get rejected or dumpedCould mean you still were dating down in some respect. People massively over estimate a guys value in the dating market. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/22 07:45 PM |
| 1 | do women envy men in dating?he’s a beta male who will take abuse because he thinks he can’t do better. even then, he will hold resentment towards her. Well I cant argue with what you've experienced or observed but I'll say this is actually a very large portion of guys fit this mold. And are correct they cannot do better than someone who is abusive and would be better of single. Its natural someone who is abusive to you however. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/22 04:38 PM |
| 1 | do women envy men in dating?I just realized you are gen X which explains why men are able to get away with looking like that and still expect a relationship down the line. As a gen Z I can say that trend died pretty violently and went the other way around 😬. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/22 03:43 PM |
| 2 | Bluepill people, do you agree with the redpill views on female attraction?Yea it's not that extreme they will some women will eventually settle for them. Monogamy is still the culturally expected norm. Until that changes eventually average men are all thats left once the hvm are locked down. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/22 03:34 PM |
| 1 | do women envy men in dating?What always gets me is replies like this where its 1:1 reverse of the usual and the genders get flipped. Are those ugly short trolls very financially blessed? Also are they still married ? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/22 03:31 PM |
| 5 | Dating is EXTREMELY easy for men.It's all part of being a man. That's fucking awful. And it's not easy You must be. Very neurotypical. I was never able to replicate this naturally. I literally had to just watch and replicate what I observed as positive responses and learn a lot of psychology. That's by definition manipulation because nothing I'm saying is coming from an authentic space befause my authentic space is awkward and dis optimal for dating. I have 0 incentive to be authentic when the difference is a life of abundance … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/22 03:24 PM |
| 2 | do women envy men in dating?Lmao true | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/22 02:27 PM |
| 1 | do women envy men in dating?I know, that's not what I implied | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/22 02:26 PM |
| 1 | do women envy men in dating?But I'm tall, in good shape I'm very suprised that those traits arent helping you out as much as they would a dude . I'll admit height helps me a lot because I'm freakishly tall. I think when women start getting to 6'3 + it becomes a negative for them though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/22 02:07 PM |
| 1 | do women envy men in dating?O.r more likely a *very very * attractive one. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/22 02:02 PM |
| 1 | do women envy men in dating?as if there’s nearly as many men seriously crying about no text backs after a 1 night stand as women. Lmao I'm that guy | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/22 02:01 PM |
| 2 | do women envy men in dating?For seeking it out. Even when respectful. Woman throw those terms around a lot when they really mean they dont like something about a guy for whatever reason. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/22 02:01 PM |
| 1 | do women envy men in dating?This is the case for men?? Not women??? I dont think I've ever seen a man like this. Maybe the most attractive. But even still. I tend to observe the behavior your describing but with the genders flipped as the norm. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/22 01:59 PM |
| 1 | do women envy men in dating?Mm, yes. I think that if they put true effort into dating and take the time to really learn about themselves or go to therapy or journal and practice healthy habits they have a really really really incredible chance of finding someone great and loving. I’m not sure the same can be said about women I'd say they have a "chance" but that it's not incredible maybe just slightly above average for men (which is a piss low bar anyway 🤣🤣) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/22 01:57 PM |
| 1 | do women envy men in dating?Nah it could just be some abnormal life circumstance. Who courts you rarely reflects your personality traits. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/22 01:56 PM |
| 1 | do women envy men in dating?Also thank fuck men still care about promiscuity cause otherwise every woman out there would fuck 600 guys and then expect to find a loving husband. At this point I highly doubt that changes anything. Like if every woman tomorrow decided not to shave her mustache. Guys thirst and loneliness levels wouldnt change lmao. The reverse definitely ain't true (replace mustache with whatever you want) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/22 01:55 PM |
| 1 | do women envy men in dating?Men aren't a uniform enough group to envy that way. Some love dating and some hate it, some do well and some don't, some don't even bother with it much because they have great social circle strategies,some are utterly dependant on dating, some can afford to date as much as they want and others can't. Yes but these things aren't 50 50 otherwise this sub wouldnt exist. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/22 01:52 PM |
| 1 | do women envy men in dating?Why? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/22 01:51 PM |
| 1 | do women envy men in dating?Firstly thank you for taking the time to respond. I have some thoughts. If women are the gatekeepers of sex, men are the gatekeepers of commitment. This really isint the case. Men are gatekeepers of *nothing * They want relationships more than woman and more likely to attempt to remarry. They are also benefit more than women from relationships in terms of happiness and longevity. You do need to develop social skills- women tend to be way more friendly and outgoing than men and will expect you to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/22 01:51 PM |
| 1 | do women envy men in dating?I hate the term unicorn hunter so much. A lot of couples just want to incorporate a third person into their family and not as a marital aid. But the polyamorous community just echo chamber vilifies it. Meaning if your a straight poly male wanting to be in a closed poly relationship. You litteraly cannot without the label. Unless you were the third brought in. Its gross chauvisnitic and sexist. Edit:sorry if it sounded like I was coming off a little to hot. It hit an emotion point with me | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/22 01:29 PM |
| 1 | do women envy men in dating?I asked because I was expecting the women responding had highly elaborate explanations for why men actually had it better some fucking how I was extremely surprised and still am by the responses I'm getting. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/22 01:25 PM |
| 1 | do women envy men in dating?Yes. Because I'm older and a man of my age in a similar situation would have more success I think. I know men usually have to initiate, but I've done that before, including rejection by the man. It's not that difficult. What makes you think that? A lot of men perpetuate this myth that at some point after 30 men become more desirable or even laughably as valued as women in the dating market and everything magically balances our but it's just a pipe dream. How many men did you initiate with? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/22 01:23 PM |
| 11 | do women envy men in dating?Nugget of truth too this, I dont think the wall is the great equalizer it should be unfortunately. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/22 01:20 AM |
| 5 | do women envy men in dating?Men don’t have to worry about date rape drugs or not being believed if they are sexually assaulted. This is only the case I'f the assumed perpetrator is another man. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/22 12:48 AM |
| 2 | do women envy men in dating?I was referring to relationships. Your still right but there was distinction. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/22 12:03 AM |
| 3 | do women envy men in dating?Im neutral. I’ve made the first move with guys and it never was successful so I guess it’s the same if I was a guy and unsuccessful. Did you ultimately end up in a relationship with a guy that courted you instead? Or did they end up not really pass the bar for you | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/22 12:02 AM |
| 2 | do women envy men in dating?the idea of envying the opposite sex is bizarre and insane Why? Edit: also do you envy other women or feel as I'd your in a better position than most. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/22 11:49 PM |
| 16 | do women envy men in dating?Based lmao | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/22 11:48 PM |
| 3 | do women envy men in dating?Ok maybe. What's your answer to the other questions then. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/22 11:48 PM |
| 20 | do women envy men in dating?I appreciate the honesty. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/22 11:47 PM |
| 1 | do women envy men in dating?That's at least 2 orders of magnitude better for them than it is for us. Not anything to laugh at. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/22 11:47 PM |
| 1 | do women envy men in dating?Ooof. Well more power to you if you managed to make it work. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/22 11:46 PM |
| 10 | do women envy men in dating?imagine a straight man still probably has more dating options than a lesbian I'm really curious about this can you elaborate. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/22 11:45 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: how many women believe that guys “enjoy the chase” and that you have to be a little aloof to get them to want you and work for you?God there is nothing I hate more than the chase, but boy do I love to be chased. I hate it so much I litterarly went the chad route to *avoid * having to be proactive. I only date women who approach first , I like the teeling of being chased and claimed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/22 08:06 PM |
| 2 | Do men in general envy women?Ok, thank you for clarifying and I'm sorry for my previous suspicion. I have never been hit with violent intent in my adult life, last time I did was at like 15, by another teen, and im betting that’s the same case for the majority of western people I am very suprised to hear this my childhood was permeated with a good deal of violence and I was one of the people who got it pretty "light" compared to others. It was common for people fight in the streets or train. In middle school this rose drama… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/22 06:32 PM |
| 1 | It is outrageous that two of our needs (affection and sex) are totally controlled by someone else (women).It sucks that one gender has complete primacy in that area. But what are you going to do. Take away people's rights? Try to find fulfillment in other areas of life if you can. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/22 06:23 PM |
| 1 | Do men in general envy women?The majority. Is that not a common thing where you grew up or something?? I’m willing to bet there’s more sexual assult survivors here then people who have been robbed or violently beaten Firstly we were talking specifically about r**e SA is much broader than those two examples. And I have a hunch you are thinking of an extreme case of violence (in need of immediate and longer term hospitalization), because that case is lesson common than general incidents of violence so it makes your argument s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/22 06:22 PM |
| 1 | Do men in general envy women?I was referring to what I said in my intial and first response. Not what you had said... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/22 05:48 PM |
| 2 | Do men in general envy women?You didn’t in fact you edited your comment to make it say that because while you where reading what I wrote you where probably already thinking to a way to contradict me instead of consider the content of this interaction No... in my original comment I specified violence. I put an edit into the subsequent violent and litterally said "edit" so you could see where it was. Dont lie, I know you saw it. Also here is some information regarding the actual cause of the majority of the paygap. https://ww… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/22 05:21 PM |
| 2 | What's the weirdest attraction cue you have?I really like a girl who is suoer into martial arts, the idea that she could kick my ass /physically dominate me is incredibly hot . | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/22 05:12 PM |
| 7 | Do men in general envy women?I made it very clear that I was talking about violence as a whole. Focusing on abuse alone is reductive in this context. Why the hostility? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/22 05:09 PM |
| 7 | Do men in general envy women?Would you mind sending me what data your looking at that might help. Edit just reread your comment I'm talking about violence in general not just domestic/seuxal abuse. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/22 04:37 PM |
| 4 | Do men in general envy women?I can understand where your coming from. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/22 04:32 PM |
| 11 | Do men in general envy women?Ability to work the same job for less salary Ummm Ability to live a society litteraly constructed on patriarchy Doesn't the patriarchy as it stands hurt both genders. Though? Ability to be the most abused of the genders Men are more likely to be the victims of violence. Bro, projecting much? Is not like all mans want kids. Most people at many points in their life seriously consider or hope to start a family. How realistic that is is another conversation. Another not very nice thing is growing up… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/22 04:31 PM |
| 3 | Do men in general envy women?Sure but the Crux of the arguement is that youd be getting more than a single beating relatively speaking. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/22 04:26 PM |
| 15 | Do men in general envy women?Sure but sexual violence is just a subset of violence and men are still the primary victims of violence over all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/22 04:24 PM |
| 4 | Which gender role is easiest to fill?I would say female role. But the traditonal female gender role can also be less fulfilling for a woman who is particularly ambitious and wants be a career woman boss babe ect. Disclaimer:there is nothing wrong with those life choices. Personally I have no desire be strong or stoic. I know I have to but male gender roles are a fucking drag tbh. Being strong stoic constantly active and taking initiative all the time is nauseating miserable and repellant to me in the extreme. I'm naturally more sub… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/22 03:46 PM |
| 4 | Do men in general envy women?God I know I do. People just have an outgroup/ingroup preference for them. More empathy more community more support. Women have more innate value both biologically and culturally(in the west). I dont want to perform and compete so fucking much I want to be feminine I want to be courted treated like the prize without having to of climbed my way up such a ridiculous competition hierarchy. I want to feel small and protected in a relationship. I hate the provider/defender dynamic men have to have. A… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/22 03:42 PM |
| 1 | Do men in general envy women?Well they probably also avoid because her standards are going to be extraordinarily high. The reason some women are dating down financially now is because women are litteraly making more money now so dating up financially is just not economically as feasible for most people anymore. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/22 03:12 PM |
| 3 | Why do you, romantic men want romance in lifeHappy cake day brother. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/22 02:32 PM |
| 3 | Would things really be "better off" if women were more brutally honest about what they like/find attractive?Let's goooooooooo | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/22 07:38 AM |
| 5 | The reason Women in western culture can have power over men is because Men have no higher purpose than getting laid.💊🔥🔥🔥🔥 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/22 07:34 AM |
| 5 | "My friend had a lot of fun in her 20s and 30s. Now She's happily married with an amazing husband and has 2 kids." - A lot of women on this sub and FDS sub says that. But there are big holes in that logic.*If a man marries a 30+ year old woman who has been fucked by 30+ men, then he's a desperate wimp not the "amazing" husband. And he's only settling because he has no other options, if he did, he wouldn’t settle for a washed up whore, hence he's a wimp Women are participating in hookup culture to increasing degrees as compared to previous generations. Since enough women are that's just the standard from which men will have to court. Dating is about what women want and the lifestyle and desires th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/22 07:25 AM |
| 1 | Is the overall resistance towards the n count, promiscuity, casual sex, etc. argument due to the hypocrisy for saying it’s ok for men to do, just not women? Or is it that you believe these things really are good things to pursue and/or have no negative consequences?Could you link to the study | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/22 07:12 AM |
| 10 | Why do you, romantic men want romance in lifeAfter hearing or experiencing abusive and toxic relationships why do you still desire romance? Why do you still want romance even if hook up culture is normalized? For principally romantic men how did you manage to protect your values on sex and romance in the face of hook up culture? Same answer for both of these, because I believed I had the potential to become a top 10% male if I put in enough work and once you make it into that orbit you can with confidence except genuine desire from women. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/22 08:35 PM |
| 1 | Most men don't understand that women's standards are like a barrier, not a sum, so a man cannot compensate for bad traits.Conventional morality? Meaning what? What moral beliefs do “good men” babe what attributes? Behavior? Etc. Morality varies by culture. No. I think your misunderstanding what I'm saying. I'm saying it doesnt matter what the specifics of the cultures moral lense is but in this context I'm only talking about industrialized western cultures . Whatever standard they have men will follow a normal distribution in reference to it therefore since Male companionship is easy to come by there is always a su… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/22 08:24 PM |
| 8 | Would you rather have a loving husband? Or guaranted 2,000 USD a month for the next 18 years?Assuming this is true, wow it's really heartwarming and a welcome breath of fresh air. What was it about him that made you initially attracted to him. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/22 07:07 PM |
| 1 | Most men don't understand that women's standards are like a barrier, not a sum, so a man cannot compensate for bad traits.What are you using to determine whether or not someone is a good man. Conventional morality? And the fact obviously being a good person is not sufficient enough to get a relationship as a male therefore there will always be a subset of men who are good people but simply lack other traits that would make them desirable to women as a whole. She can use OLD for unlimited choice or just explore friend groups she is in and chose if she wants to reciprocate any interests there. They can find sex with … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/22 07:04 PM |
| 4 | CMV: Often women are the ones who ruin FWB/Hook up relationshipsRight but the type of dude who gets FWB and hookups with one women almost certainly can get it with others so he also has many incentives to cheat. And I remember reading somewhere that men and women cheated at roughly equal rates? It isint so much that her having sex with a guy who can have Fwb puts them on equal ground it's more so the potential loss of investment. Who was the one setting frame? intiating things? Making the biggest efforts to be entertaining charming accommodating/fun. Or pote… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/22 06:16 AM |
| 3 | what's the psychology behind serial cheating/ compulsive lying?So the reverse is true with the genders flipped then right???? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/22 05:05 AM |
| 0 | Men dont have much to offer in datingHey even women have to settle eventually 😉 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/22 04:52 AM |
| 0 | Men dont have much to offer in datingThose things are In abudance as much woman claim to the contrary. Even if a man is offering all of those hes the hundredth person to offer them in a sea of men. So he still doesn't have anything to offer . | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/22 04:48 AM |
| 2 | Women control how men act in datingI'm sorry you had to go through that, without going into detail because it was triggering which is why I singled it out and kind of anger responded. Is because. I think when people chose to do something like that, they aren't responding to any "incentive" outside of " I want this and I'm going to take it". Many men and women are willing to tolerate a certain level of shitty behavior but rape is universally seen as crossing well and above that line. I might be inclined to argue that it's not seen… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/22 10:32 PM |
| 1 | Women control how men act in datingAre you.....asking this question in good faith? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/22 10:17 PM |
| 5 | Women control how men act in datingMost men arent fucking rapists? That's a good place to start. 🙄 Like how does anyone see someone make a post saying men will adapt their behavior to suite what incentives women set and think this includes rapists. Who explicitly are never going to give about a womans preferences desires reactions for obvious reasons. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/22 10:05 PM |
| 1 | Women control how men act in datingI am in agreement with you on that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/22 10:02 PM |
| 5 | Women control how men act in datingSo when women have "high standards" red pillers shriek. "She wants a clean man with a job who helps raise his fucking kids It's that these standards arent applied universally. There is so much access to good contraceptives and ultimately women are the ones that chose and set the terms of relationships. The results are never the fault of the men these women are not choosing. Nor the responsibility of those men afterwords. People are responsible for vetting their partners. Obviously abusers can be… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/22 06:13 PM |
| 9 | Women control how men act in datingUnless you believe every successful man is literally out here on the spot raping EVERY chick they see? How did you derive that from my statement. Like it seems like where your arguing from every single thing in its totality is dictated by ONLY what women want. This is only true for like the bottom 80-90% of men. The last 10% yes they have to adhere to strick behavior and physical and sometimes financial standards to remain in that cohort but they also command a lot of power in setting their own … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/22 06:01 PM |
| 13 | Women control how men act in datingMost women WANT a high value man but won't get one. Right that's my point however that small cohort of men has massive power in shaping women's sexual behavior. Not as much as women have over men overall not by far but it's still significant. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/22 05:53 PM |
| 12 | Women control how men act in datingHoly shit no, rapists are not responding to the terms and behaviors women encourage they are sexually assaulting people regardless of what their boundaries are. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/22 05:45 PM |
| 42 | Women control how men act in datingHumans respond to incentives. The party with more power sets the incentives. This is not gender exclusive fully. Women control how most men act but the highest value men have significantly more ability to act independently without it obliterating access to relationships and sex so it would help to be a little more nuanced with this. Tbh. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/22 05:35 PM |
| 6 | beign asked out isn't a complimentThe proposition is the compliment | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/22 08:15 AM |
| 3 | How hard is dating for a 30 year old woman?I'm a kind, warm, reasonably attractive (no model, but I'm above average) woman who recently found myself unexpectedly single. I'm turning 30 in two weeks and am a bit concerned about some posts I see online about women my age being less desirable. I want to find a life partner. If all this is true you'll have your pick of the litter. And if not you still will. Modern dating is a womans game your the one with the power done let the men here scare you there just trying to create this fantasy worl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/22 07:16 AM |
| 0 | Why are people often possessive and judgmental when they date?That's true but part of the male experience is also being aware of that behavior/mindset and minimizing how much its noticable and expressed because it definitely can damage a good relationship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/08/22 05:43 PM |
| 2 | Why are people often possessive and judgmental when they date?I was about to ask the same theres not enough to go on this post without it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/08/22 05:42 PM |
| 2 | What you guys think about jordan PetersonA lot of people give the worst charitable interpretation possible at every angle. I think what he is doing is good but I also think his advice is terribly dated | /r/AllPillDebate | 12/08/22 01:36 PM |
| 1 | What would it give if women were more tolerant toward men's looks/lower standard regarding men's "handsomeness" ?I mean, not for women lol. Very few women would be able to get commitment from anybody. So it'd be a reverse of now? I dont even think thatd be the case woman would get commitment litteraly by the sheer volume of men that are now considered attractive. Like remember in this scenario the highest value men are not going to have as many options because women would largely desire men across the board. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/08/22 01:33 PM |
| 1 | What would it give if women were more tolerant toward men's looks/lower standard regarding men's "handsomeness" ?some things to take into account in this scenario Womens attraction mirrors men in this scenario so suddenly a lot of men who didnt even have the option to commit are now able too. Women would be far less worried about the emotional investment of men who did commit to them. Ironically women would have more options not less because they wouldn't be at the proverbial whims of the highest value dudes who are being showered in attention. Suddenly an average or somewhat below average dude isint a rep… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/08/22 01:30 PM |
| 7 | What would it give if women were more tolerant toward men's looks/lower standard regarding men's "handsomeness" ?A lot less anger and bitterness on both sides. No nasty intergender power dynamics. The primary cause of a mans success in the dating market could actually be attributed to personality. The "manosphere" wouldn't exist after are all there arent any intergender conflicting reproductive imperatives. Many elements of traditionally considered "toxic masculinity " would not of emerged as adaptations to female selection preferences. Gender would truelly mean very little compared to our world. The same … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/08/22 05:54 AM |
| 2 | Why does it seem when Western women reach their 30s their expectations get higher(not lower) whenever they are met or not that’s a different story? (Challenging the wall narrative)The fact that you think I wouldn’t tells me your view of reality is incredibly warped. How exactly does it tell you that? Not as many men are only willing to fuck as you think. The fact that men arent immediately vocal about it doesn't mean they are not hoping. My issue here is that a lot of times when women say men are vying for them you peep their post history and find something that contradicts it 5 comments in. So I'm always somewhat skeptical when a woman says litteraly no one has romantic … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/22 05:44 PM |
| 5 | I don’t see anything wrong with pumping and dumping a womanTheres a difference between the amount of attention your getting and the complete void that only fills with rejection that most men experience until their settled for. You wouldnt possibly be able to comprehend what that's like for most guys. I dont like the idea of him going out with the explicit intention of doing this. But its honestly no worse than the absolute relegation to sexual/romantic underclass many men experience because women would rather fall for types like these than consider men … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/22 03:55 PM |
| 3 | I don’t see anything wrong with pumping and dumping a womanToo be honest I just don't want to see men be harmed in the same way I was which is why I speak here. Young males dont realize how disadvantaged and worthless they relatively speaking to their female peers and the difference in power dynamic expresses itself in really terrible ways imo I try to advise the ones who have potential to capitalize on that as much as possible. as it's the only real safeguard I've seen against falling into the common male experience. And for the ones who cant, to make … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/22 03:39 PM |
| 2 | Why does it seem when Western women reach their 30s their expectations get higher(not lower) whenever they are met or not that’s a different story? (Challenging the wall narrative)I think you are not seeing the big picture. I'm asking why? what's the reason for this dynamic? Why wouldn't a man want to be richer through a woman? Let me give a personal perspective because I think their is a context shift. I'm happy where I am in life when I look for a partner I'm looking for someone who brings peace love support and understanding into my life. Someone who is at least willing to meet me 40% of the way on most things. Someone who doesn't think she's implicitly doing me a favo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/22 03:27 PM |
| 1 | Why does it seem when Western women reach their 30s their expectations get higher(not lower) whenever they are met or not that’s a different story? (Challenging the wall narrative)Why wouldn't a man want to raise his status by marrying a high status woman? Because most men dont care about a womans status Is it because men don't want to be with someone who earns more than them because of some fragile ego? It's actually a good strategy for countering women's hypergamy to be making more than your partner. I'f she makes more or the same that's one more box she has mentally ticked in her head that says "I deserve better" and men care about long term relationship stability even… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/22 03:07 PM |
| 3 | Why does it seem when Western women reach their 30s their expectations get higher(not lower) whenever they are met or not that’s a different story? (Challenging the wall narrative)They are, that's why when you get the advantage you should have even more ruthless standards. You only live once and owe women nothing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/22 03:01 PM |
| 1 | Why does it seem when Western women reach their 30s their expectations get higher(not lower) whenever they are met or not that’s a different story? (Challenging the wall narrative)Until then day I see men falling over themselves to date homely Bertha because she’s got a great personality spare me. Have you actually encountered any women who didnt have men vying for them. Excusing of course the bery introverted/hermit types that have no social media and stay indoors usually | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/22 03:00 PM |
| 9 | Why are there so many lonely young people now? (Particularly men).Holy shit, succiently put, thank you for this summarization. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/22 01:03 PM |
| 8 | What are common ways men and women shoot themselves in the foot?Men: not doing everything in their power and making as many changes to themselves to optimize their chances of attracting women. Women: not taking advice on how to be better discerning of the offers they receive/making excuses for particularly attractive men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/22 09:16 PM |
| 3 | Do you think it is truly ''over'' for some people? (Post doesn't violate rule 8 or 9)And they are exceptionally lucky or they have been settled for. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/22 01:56 PM |
| 2 | What’s the solution?Prioritizing female births through ivf. Males are already less desirable and innately less valuable in the dating market. And Id argue to society/human psyche as a whole. Decreasing how many males there are in subsequent generations until we have a ratio of 9:10 males to females would balance this out. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/22 12:20 PM |
| 2 | Do you think modern dating is fair for men? Why?This is essentially what all men do to varying degrees save for the "naturals". But yes as awful as truelly awful as enduring all of that is, in truth it is the best advice and only thing left for someone in a similar position. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/22 02:16 AM |
| 3 | If standards are 'on the floor' for men, how high is the floor?Because people are eventually willing to settle. Whether they have a genuine desire or admiration for their partner is not a pre requisite for that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/22 06:32 AM |
| 2 | Red Pill Polyamory Confusion (Men vs Women .Weather or not you are able to practice polyamory especially one sided polyamory is determined by your dating market valuation. If you want to have multiple partners who commit only to you focus on increasing your valuation the social stigma around it be damned because there are far more women demanding and practicing the opposite. But also consider is all of this even worth it. Monogamy is a societally stabilizing force for a reason. Consider if it's worth it to give that up for the chance to m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/22 02:47 PM |
| 5 | Men feel entitled to casual sexThat doesn't logically follow at all. You can be extremely vocal about your want for something without thinking its owed to you. This is just a weak strawman. Contemplate other reasons why an individual might be very vocal about any life circumstance that they are frustrated with being unable to change. | /r/AllPillDebate | 08/08/22 05:23 AM |
| 4 | Men feel entitled to casual sexIf you just want something you aren't so vocal about Why? | /r/AllPillDebate | 08/08/22 05:14 AM |
| 5 | are you flattered if someone ugly asks you out ?I can understand that being unsettling when I was 18 to 19 I got attention from much older women that wasn't really desired. That being said it was a lot more than other guys were getting so I did feel better about myself afterwards. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/22 07:14 AM |
| 1 | are you flattered if someone ugly asks you out ?Yes but that's because I went so long without anyone asking me out that now that I'm getting attention. Being asked out by anyone is a massive reminder of how much work I put in to increase my market valuation. It feels good because I earned it, and a reminder that I no longer occupy what was once my destined domain. Being another faceless worthless and undesirable male in an infinite crowd of them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/22 07:11 AM |
| 14 | are you flattered if someone ugly asks you out ?Being asked out by someone you aren't attracted to isn't really flattering, it's just awkward. Why...? If someone isint getting any attention. Being asked out by someone even someone ugly still affirms that they are not completely undesirable. For a lot of men thats all their going to get and it will be a major boon for them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/22 07:08 AM |
| 1 | Are men inferior to women, are men more biologically oppressed?Non shit men also get a say in if and when they reproduce So any man who doesn't have dating or reproduction chances is a "shit man"? This is litteraly just a soft repackaging of the "your worth is how much pussy you can get " toxic masculinity that so many women claim to be against. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/22 02:54 AM |
| 42 | A huge amount of straight men are actually homo-romanticwhy are girls allowed to say girlfriend to refer to a platonic friend but if I say this is my boytoy twink malewife jason, I'm suddenly gay?? 🤔 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/22 02:46 AM |
| 2 | The argument of "just lower your standards" to undesirable men is misguided since they have no option that is being filtered out by their standardsYou render the word "options " meaningless with how desperately your willing to stretch it. If he has to jump through flaming hoops and broken glass to maybe have a chance with someone he would have to force himself to like he has no options plain and simple. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/22 02:43 AM |
| 1 | After Leaving A Good Man, Do Women Typically Find Better?Typically yes the party with more power sets the negotiations. Men are the ones out there courting and offering their commitment while women sit sort and ultimately make their choice from those offers so by sheer numbers alone a woman leaving any man good or bad will typically find better if she's willing to put any work into looking and often that's not a necessity either. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/22 02:34 AM |
| 10 | People are always talking about men and locker room talk. Is there anything to this that is specific to men?Yea honestly my male friends dont hold a candle when it comes to gossip and I'm nosey af sooo... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/22 05:25 PM |
| 7 | Women hate the manosphere because it's the only thing actually helping menI think a lot of men on the sub hate women for the absolute primacy they have in all things love sex and dating by birthright. They wish they could have at least some of that and indulge in fantasies that ad soon as they hit "30..35...40" that they'll have the same desirability as even the least attractive women. I wouldn't say its filled to the brim. I think a lot of males have come to the understanding that women are going to do whatever they want and that their wants define the dating market.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/22 05:17 PM |
| 4 | Women hate the manosphere because it's the only thing actually helping menLmao that was a good one. I wanna clarify redpill doesn't say every single women is exactly like that it just argues you should expect that by and large. I found someone who wasnt typical in a lot of ways. It's not impossible just friggen hard | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/22 04:44 PM |
| 5 | Women hate the manosphere because it's the only thing actually helping menWomen by and large do not care what is helping or hindering men unless those men are in their immediate close circle or familial unit. As a challenge to this I'd ask you to consider the following. Women hate the manosphere because it doesn't adhere to gynocentric norms regarding discussion of dating and inter sexual dynamics. Rp teaches the money muscles and status formula for success along with some game. This flies directly in the concept of the just world intuition many of them have where the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/22 04:40 PM |
| 4 | Women hate the manosphere because it's the only thing actually helping menRight exactly which is why growing SMV is so important in a redpill lens because it enables you to leave the sexual underclass or even better find an atypical women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/22 04:25 PM |
| 0 | Women hate the manosphere because it's the only thing actually helping menBecause the sociopathy label is hyperbolic and enough of them are part of a sexual/romantic underclass and have done the internal calculus figuring that's better than remaining where they are. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/22 04:14 PM |
| 8 | Q4W: How does women being able to"smell misoginy" line up with women who end up being in abusive relationships?You probably think its largely than it actually is because that subset is noticable though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/22 12:37 PM |
| 3 | Why is there a discrepancy in what men believe how women respond to men crying in relationships compared to what women believe how women respond?Its definitely 3, most women are answering based of their image of themselves not how they actually would behave in the field. It's not exactly flattering to say "I cannot do equitable amounts of emotional labour on a partner and still maintain attraction to them". So they have to exaggerate , if a guy needed emotional labour, he was "wanting me to be his mommy therapist" or some shit. That being said this is not necessarily a bad situation men find themselves in if they are aware before hand. F… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/22 01:22 PM |
| 1 | If your ultimate reason for wanting a relationship is sex, you don’t deserve one.That’s literally not true. Women are able to get sex only from those willing to give it to her. And? You say only as if their is some implied scarcity in any meaningful sense of the word. She has as many options as she wants her only problem with accessing sex is sorting. And theres plenty of that to do. Whatever terms are on the table are hers to set practically alone as theres 20 more men willing to fill the spot of any man who doesn't agree to those terms. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/22 03:58 AM |
| 2 | If your ultimate reason for wanting a relationship is sex, you don’t deserve one.Women are by and large the ones who control and dictate when and if sex happens though. Men are the ones competing for sexual access not the other way around. Inb4 "both parties consented though" yes obviously, it doesn't change the market forces around sex and who in agregate sets the terms. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/22 02:45 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Men who do not have a protective/dominant instinct are flawed.Going to be honest your height might ironically help you. I can say as a male bodied individual who is well above 6 feet and in excess of 250lbs. ALL I ever get is ultra fem types who want that daddy dom bullshit. I have 0 interest in conforming to the masculine norms outside of for FWB everything now and then. The only way I am able to find the type of woman your talk ih ng about is if I use OLD and explicitly layout that I dont fuck with sexual dominance. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/22 10:24 PM |
| 1 | Most men don't understand that women's standards are like a barrier, not a sum, so a man cannot compensate for bad traits.Lmaoooo based. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/22 01:47 AM |
| 3 | Most men don't understand that women's standards are like a barrier, not a sum, so a man cannot compensate for bad traits.With good men is a stretch same with the relationship part. I mean they wont be the literal cream of the crop but still good human beings with valuable inner worlds. He’d be able find sex but then the trade off would be that it would be unsatisfactory and there’d probably be less of a craving for it. See I dont get this, one of the number one strawman women point too when ridiculing men is that they are out or shape / living with "mommy" ect ect if it isint something more subjective like "bad pe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/22 01:17 PM |
| 3 | Most men don't understand that women's standards are like a barrier, not a sum, so a man cannot compensate for bad traits.Imma be making a cmv later for why the men hit the wall not women. I can post a link here for it later if you'd like. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/22 11:45 PM |
| 12 | Most men don't understand that women's standards are like a barrier, not a sum, so a man cannot compensate for bad traits.Dude real talk if I was a man I’d be pissed off that y’all keep pushing this narrative that men have zero standards in partners. Like respect eachother more, are you guys that desperate to push this idea that dating failures are completely out of your control that you want women to believe you’re so desperate you’ll take ANYTHING?! I understand the frustration and how it can seem very alien. I think this is more so stemming from a conflict of experiences. It isint that men have "zero" standards … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/22 08:39 PM |
| 20 | Most men don't understand that women's standards are like a barrier, not a sum, so a man cannot compensate for bad traits.I mean wouldnt that still be hypergamy though? If he was a woman he could still easily find sex and a relationship with good men. Lame ass disclaimer I'm not even saying its bad that a male with those characteristics most likely won't have those things. It just seems like it's a given that men at least must be less hypergamous because this situation is not a death blow to ones dating life if they are a woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/22 07:49 PM |
| 6 | Most men don't understand that women's standards are like a barrier, not a sum, so a man cannot compensate for bad traits.I mean wouldnt that still be hypergamy though? If he was a woman he could still easily find sex and a relationship with good men. Lame ass disclaimer I'm not even saying its bad that a male with those characteristics most likely won't have those things. It just seems like it's a given that men at least must be less hypergamous because this situation is not a death blow to ones dating life if they are a woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/22 07:45 PM |
| 1 | Most men don't understand that women's standards are like a barrier, not a sum, so a man cannot compensate for bad traits.🤣 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/22 07:41 PM |
| 24 | I think the idea that men have it easier time getting relationships is incredibly false.As women? I'm wondering what exactly their standards for a guy might be. Going to off on a limb and say they're probably aiming for the cream of the crop. Despite saying otherwise. As for the male ones... Are they optimizing their profile? Because that's leagues far below the bare minimum for a male to do. With men it's more of a case by case thing though could be a host of small optimizations they arent doing. On top of one big issue. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/22 06:43 PM |
| 37 | I think the idea that men have it easier time getting relationships is incredibly false.Also ugly women are invisible to men too. There are ugly women that get no matches, but nobody talks about them. Bullshit. Make a dating profile right now with whatever results come up with you search "ugly woman" and than tell me if you still believe that after 4 hours of using any dating app that isint coffee meets bagel. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/22 06:18 PM |
| 2 | Your Personality is NOT the problem women here are making it to beOoooh boy lemme tell you, I just finished leg day on Thursday I'm setting at a meeting and my thighs still hurt. Buy yes I'm speaking at this from a place of experience. I want men to go to other men and get actionable advice. Not that "just be yourself " bullshit that doesnt work for most men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/22 05:34 PM |
| 2 | The fact that in almost any discussion about dating there is an overriding implication that women are the prize and men are lucky to win them suggests women are superior to men and is symptomatic of the misandry and gynocentric sentiment that is rampant in western cultureWomen are also the ones who are supposed to "lure" men into marriage, as if marriage wasn't something that both partners wanted. Men often express pity towards their friend who is going to get married, while women rarely do the same. I feel like this is kind of a dated trope though. Amongst younger generations it seems by and large the men who are anxious about finding anyone for committment not women. Men dread game women I nto this with the concept of the wall. The reality is there is no age w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/22 07:31 PM |
| 1 | The fact that in almost any discussion about dating there is an overriding implication that women are the prize and men are lucky to win them suggests women are superior to men and is symptomatic of the misandry and gynocentric sentiment that is rampant in western cultureThis isint going to effect your ability to fuck as evidence by all the toxic women and toxic HVM who are abusive POS. And all the good women and non HVM who are struggle. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/22 06:51 PM |
| 1 | The fact that in almost any discussion about dating there is an overriding implication that women are the prize and men are lucky to win them suggests women are superior to men and is symptomatic of the misandry and gynocentric sentiment that is rampant in western cultureThanks! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/22 05:19 PM |
| -2 | The fact that in almost any discussion about dating there is an overriding implication that women are the prize and men are lucky to win them suggests women are superior to men and is symptomatic of the misandry and gynocentric sentiment that is rampant in western cultureDude. For some 2,000 years, since Abrahamic religions came in the scene, women have been second class citizens. Men believe women are accessories to plug into from time to time. All women have in conservative regions is the choice to exercise romantic or sexual options, and that only works outside of conservative regions, the Bible Belt and Utah. OP might not live in a conservative region so this might be completely irrelevant to the current reality on the ground. So long as men value female val… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/22 05:18 PM |
| 1 | The fact that in almost any discussion about dating there is an overriding implication that women are the prize and men are lucky to win them suggests women are superior to men and is symptomatic of the misandry and gynocentric sentiment that is rampant in western cultureCan I post it in the automod to the new post he made? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/22 05:11 PM |
| 5 | Do women ever think that the high value dude they are going for can pretty much leave at any point for someone better?Anyone can leave you whether they have other options or not There are studies that both claim attractive people are both less likely and more likely to have lasting relationships so I'm not going to come at it at that angel. That being said it's pretty undeniable that in a lot of relationships where one party does have more options and humans having a decent level of selfishness probably are aware of these realities when dealing with their partners. I mean shit my partner says she thinks I'm the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/22 03:52 PM |
| 1 | The fact that in almost any discussion about dating there is an overriding implication that women are the prize and men are lucky to win them suggests women are superior to men and is symptomatic of the misandry and gynocentric sentiment that is rampant in western cultureLmao what did I do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/22 03:11 PM |
| 2 | How many today would be down for a stay home dad?realistically what would happen if she wants a divorce ?..let's say down the line in 10-20-30 years. You would not be able to get back in the job market. Your education and experiences wouldn't count anymore employers barely hire people with a few years of age gap, let alone decade. Not trying to be pessimistic but i would never be able to do what you d Ahh I didnt even think of it like that. Divorce is traumatizing so is economic destitution. I'm imagining a scenario where I'm old divorced and … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/22 02:22 PM |
| 1 | How many today would be down for a stay home dad?Yes I made an assumption then asked you to clarify those things are not mutually exclusive. But thank you for clarifying to me that traditional gender dynamics no longer exist in any form because it's the current year. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/22 12:05 AM |
| 1 | How many today would be down for a stay home dad?If I had ended my question about your beliefs with a period than I could see that arguement. But I think it's pretty clear from context clues I asked a question. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/22 11:58 PM |
| 0 | How many today would be down for a stay home dad?Most people consider raising the children to be extremely valuable. There are plenty of other men who would also put in work to raise a child. Did you not read the part "all other things being equal"??? Or did you ignore it so you could set the worst possible interpretation you could get away with? Edit: actually let me clarify in case there is any confusion. I'm presuming that both parties are equally willing to but in labour working/childrearing ect. That being said. There a plenty of men will… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/22 11:52 PM |
| 1 | How many today would be down for a stay home dad?I didn't put words in their mouth I asked them a question and asked them to verify if that was not the case. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/22 11:50 PM |
| 2 | How many today would be down for a stay home dad?The idea that women are far more likely to tolerate or want a partner to "take care" of them is practically a cultural trope at this point. Your acting as what I'm saying is new and therefore must be from personal cohabitative relationships. I like many others just observe the actions and choices people make. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/22 11:33 PM |
| 3 | How many today would be down for a stay home dad?I love how you keep trying to redirect the issue to some hypothetical percieved personal failing in my own life. These arent the things people in my life are doing. But I sure as hell see a lot of it on social media on the street and otherwise. People dont have their shit together nearly as much as they say they do. Edit: I ignored the question because I thought it was a ridiculous question to ask unless you take a uncharitable interpretation. But to humor it. No I have not personally experience… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/22 11:28 PM |
| 4 | How many today would be down for a stay home dad?Before we married I paid everything myself and I was chilled with that because again? I’m an adult. Right I can guarantee you if you go out and look at many relationships you will quickly see that being "an adult " does not necessitate any of what you said. You might be doing that but a lot of people aren't. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/22 11:25 PM |
| 4 | How many today would be down for a stay home dad?Sorry, I didn’t realize I was speaking to someone with a child’s mentality Really? That's the best you can do? ? "Ahh I know I'll tell him a strong independent women who dont need no man and act like it should of been obvious because I copped some work as a kid!" There are plenty of women who claim to take pride in being self sufficient but still are more than happy to let men do more than there fair share to them. But keep acting suprised you weren't immideatly given the benefit of the doubt. M… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/22 11:18 PM |
| 3 | How many today would be down for a stay home dad?Lmao ok. That still doesn't answer the question of what your preferences are. Plenty of people have been self sufficient but would still let a man take care of them. Edit: also isint that kinda of common in a large chunk of the world already? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/22 11:05 PM |
| 0 | How many today would be down for a stay home dad?Lmao I was thinking this when I made my original comment I just left it up to the readers to come to the conclusion rather than directly saying that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/22 10:52 PM |
| 1 | How many today would be down for a stay home dad?But you'd happily let one take care of you?? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/22 10:50 PM |
| 1 | Guys like saying guys only cheat because they need sexual variety but isn’t it usually in combination with other stuff?I remember reading somewhere that men cheat more often for emotional reasons than just for sex. Which makes sense | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/22 10:24 PM |
| 6 | Do you think men with autism are doomed in the current dating world?100% I didnt even think about a lot of that when I made my post but it's good solidarity to the neurodivergent. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/22 10:03 PM |
| 4 | How many today would be down for a stay home dad?That's honestly my dream, but Its insanely risky. I'm going to be making less than my partner as a stat at home dad so there will be an attraction drop. if we break up I presumedly haven't worked for years (extremely unattractive trait for a bio male) Very few women would be willing to tolerate that from a male partner anyway so it prob doesnt matter in the end. But stay at home dad seems like a very bad choice for the power dynamic in the relationship. Everything else being equal. Imagine your … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/22 09:58 PM |
| 7 | Your Personality is NOT the problem women here are making it to beHe might not be done things that worked for him because of social stigma. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/22 09:17 PM |
| 2 | Women aren't so much put off by seeing men cry, they just don't like what comes nextPeople of both genders can put on the water works when their partner talks about breaking up. Tbh it seems like its women who dont handle being broken up with as well. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/22 07:49 PM |
| 10 | Your Personality is NOT the problem women here are making it to bePeople are going to be upset with whatever you do as a man. Just do what works for you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/22 06:50 PM |
| 2 | If you had $10M that could only be spent on improving your dating/sex life, how would you spend it?level 4Used-Engineering4996 · 3 min. ago You’re probably right but it takes a very long time to build visible muscle. I’m very tall and lanky, it’s hard for me Your definitely right. It does take a long time especially if you are already tall. But here's the thing my man. Like me your tall which means the "ceiling" for how attractive body building will make you is considerably higher! Its going to take 1.5 years if you start now but you will start to notice changes in how women treat you at the … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/22 06:41 PM |
| 12 | Your Personality is NOT the problem women here are making it to beAlright you mastered basic conversation. But what are you doing to generate attraction? And are you going to the gym? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/22 05:02 PM |
| 2 | How are there so many successful men who continue to struggle?You dont need to be elliot Rodger levels. You can a standard deviation or less down in these categories and you'll be fucked as a dude . Yes looks are important but there are a bunch of other things that women will reject you for even if you are attractive as well. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/22 03:47 PM |
| 4 | Beta male are more likely to reproduce than alpha male.Historically speaking, "beta" male are over-represented in the gene pool at the expense of "alpha" male That's always going to be the case. It doesn't matter how "alpha" a guy is or what hes bringing to the table. Womens attraction is going to focus on the "best possible deal" so if men suddenly become way masculine and capable or way less as a group its not going to change anything because only the best from that group is going to be prioritized by women. Even so their were lots of social const… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/22 01:30 PM |
| 66 | Do you think men with autism are doomed in the current dating world?It depends on how much the autism effects their ability to mimic or mask. Autistic people are very analytical you can pick up on small things if you focus know what to look for and what to say. Ignore the bemoaning of "your being fake inauthentic!" No one cares. Have you heard of charisma on command? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/22 01:25 PM |
| 2 | How are there so many successful men who continue to struggle?Good looks are the deciding factor overwhelming majority of the time. But lacking any of these can still get a guys dating life killed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/22 01:20 PM |
| 13 | Do you think men with autism are doomed in the current dating world?They wont want him either. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/22 01:17 PM |
| 2 | If you had $10M that could only be spent on improving your dating/sex life, how would you spend it?Personal trainer and weight loss. You should be aiming to get bulky and shredded. Dont listen to women saying "if hes hot but his personality is shit blah blah bla..." you will get laid and dates from wonderful women if you look attractive. You will get experience from this and this will lead to changes in how you interact with women inside and outside of a relationship which will provide valuable information and make you more attractive in the process. Classes in pysche. This is VERY important … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/22 01:16 PM |
| 2 | What hobbies in the opposite gender are attractive?Boxing, I like the idea that she could in theory kick my ass and dominate me. Honestly any traditionally masculine hobby because that can imply tomboyishness ❤ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/22 02:18 AM |
| 32 | How are there so many successful men who continue to struggle?All the success in the world isint going to mean shit for a man, if your lacking confidence or self esteem. Or if you dont have charisma or at least a basic understanding of psychology. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/22 02:07 AM |
| 1 | If you had $10M that could only be spent on improving your dating/sex life, how would you spend it?Sounds like an awesome dude tbh. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/22 12:03 AM |
| 4 | If you had $10M that could only be spent on improving your dating/sex life, how would you spend it?Did he spend any of his money on crafting an exquisite physique? What about classes in psychology? or charisma training he might of had "breaking" traits like low confidence or self esteem which are often Mark's for death as far as mans dating life is concerned. Did he genuinely put in a lot of effort into finding someone. Or dating for that matter? Just flexing money at events and donating to a few charities doesn't seem like a particularly optimal strategy to me tbh. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/22 11:58 PM |
| 1 | Men - what makes you a catch and why should a woman give you a chance?I have a classical beautiful body that I have cultivate Dover years. I have a high level of independence. I've been making 6 figures for a bit now and I'm still quite young. I'll be f,i,r,e by 28 if I line my cards correctly. I worked with kids for a long time so I know I'd be a good caretaker and parent. I don't expect women to do emotional labour on me even in return. I'm on the uptake and a lot of my personal projects are taking off slowly but steadily. Essentially I'm close to the finish lin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/22 11:54 PM |
| 2 | Is it reasonable for a man with an average physique to want a thin/non-fat female partner?I don't think men care about the ways i improve myself. I'm not going to stop improving myself and instead devote my energy to becoming more attractive to men, I have more important goals. Well what men are attracted has always been of pittiling importance so that lines up. In what ways do you improve yourself that you think men dont care about though? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/22 11:49 PM |
| 3 | If you had $10M that could only be spent on improving your dating/sex life, how would you spend it?Life is unpredictable but never in agregate. Did Paul Alan spend his money in a way that optimized for dating? No There are clear actionable things men can do after acquiring resources that will make or break their dating life at every level. Their are some millionaires that never went to college or high school. Still hitting the books will determine the financial future for those who were not already blessed with luck. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/22 11:45 PM |
| 1 | If you had $10M that could only be spent on improving your dating/sex life, how would you spend it?Social media optimization. Gym membership personal trainer and staffing+ best doctors and beauticians. High quality therapist Personal tutor for studies on human psychology. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/22 11:40 PM |
| 7 | If you had $10M that could only be spent on improving your dating/sex life, how would you spend it?It's not about how much money as it is in where you throw it. If you spend your resources in things to put you in the top 10% you WILL find a woman who loves you. Unless something is anomalously wrong in your situation. And often times money can solve that too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/22 11:37 PM |
| – | advice for women in finding love and lasting relationships by a maleAre you describing your ideal self? Edit: lmao he deleted his post. Guess I was right. 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/22 11:35 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadSo my thoughts on that is that, women who dont want any sort of emotional vulnerability from their men are still emotionally mature because is defined as "the state of being emotionally and mentally well developed " we can interpret that many ways. But the interpretation I'm taking is that in order to be emotionally mature you have to be of a mental configuration that ensures a healthy happy and safe life. If you are a woman and dont want to deal with emotional vulnerability from a male partner … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/22 07:51 PM |
| 1 | So what do men want women to say / do when they face continuous rejection?It’s always about how we are all shrews who fuck hot guys and ‘settle’ for other ones. We’re all toxic and hateful. We are only attracted to qualities X/Y/Z and if we say otherwise we are lying So I understand the frustration with part of this my thing is. Let's say that the AFBB is true and that success with women by and large is predicated on Qualities X/Y/Z. The common response here is that believing that is somehow dehumanizing to women. My thing is, if this is how women lead with their roma… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/22 05:09 PM |
| 6 | Women have very high standards for romantic interaction but very low standards on treatment while in the relationshipHe's currently breaking bad. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/22 05:11 AM |
| 2 | Giving woman your own age a chance why?Ahhh the throes of youthful vigor. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/22 05:07 AM |
| 0 | What common takes from women do you disagree with?I really do not like being reminded of my gender role. If I can change my language slightly to alleivaite that I'm going too of course . | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/22 05:04 AM |
| 2 | Latam: The "Peperas" and the "Tomaseras" are women who seduce men and introduce sedatives into their drinks. They strip them of everything of value and throw them on the streets. Some of these men die. But this is not considered gender violence against men because of their condition of being men.Little things like reminding people that that human was some mothers kid , or some sisters sibling that will garner some empathy. And maybe actionable change far down the line. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/22 05:03 AM |
| 48 | So what do men want women to say / do when they face continuous rejection?Bruh honestly It has 0 to do with solutions. I'd just like for women to stop pretending as if the driving force behined male dating/sexual success is always some failing to adhere to whatever the current cultural conventions regarding moral intention or "correct" beliefs about gender. It's just so self serving and it pushes men directly towards the side of the redpill that in large enough viewership and boy is that viewership growing negatively effects women culturally. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/22 05:00 AM |
| 2 | Why are young women so picky?Hmm I should clarify romantic interactions not day to day friendships. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/22 05:26 PM |
| 3 | What common takes from women do you disagree with?How is it going so far for you? Good but I got very lucky with looks from the beginning (abnormally tall and muscular frame) so I was able to capitalize on it by doing lots of workouts. Attempting this as even an above average guy would be romantic suicide imo. Women for the most part wouldn't show interest but now they definitely do especially online. I'm not pulling attention like gigachad over here but I no longer have any anxieties or impressions that I have no options. My experience with da… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/22 01:31 PM |
| 5 | What common takes from women do you disagree with?Yes, I'm speaking from a place of priviledge I got lucky with genetic lottery. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/22 01:17 PM |
| 3 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadBig agree. Women will say they want this but even mild temprary emotional shows of weakness purchase permanent cumulative losses of attraction and commitment. You have to be her rock but dont make the mistake of expecting even a quarter of that in return. Unless your more of a short term relationship type of dude. Indivdual differences aside, men and women love differently and you should not fault people for not being able to love a partner the "correct way". Take this as a positive and use it a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/22 08:57 AM |
| 5 | What common takes from women do you disagree with?I mean biologically male yes, | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/22 08:51 AM |
| 18 | What common takes from women do you disagree with?"Men should always be the initiators." "Men should always pay for dates." "Men should be leaders/captains/wall for you." As a male bodied person I can tell you some of us hate this shit so much we will litteraly change our life styles in unnatural ways if it means being attractive enough not to do this. And by that I dont mean "lemme work out to get some girls" I mean "let me work out so that I'm not stuck in such a fucking awful gender role of being the initiator. So I can actually feel desirab… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/22 06:21 AM |
| 19 | What common takes from women do you disagree with?I was a VERY different person then so I asked her where her man was and walked away. I felt the temperature in my room rise from that burn 🤧💀 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/22 06:11 AM |
| 2 | Why are young women so picky?What part about any of this seems abnormal? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/22 06:07 AM |
| 2 | Why are young women so picky?Men arent "just dealing with rejection" they are dealing with a paradigm where rejection is the bread and butter of their interactions. Where they are constantly burdened to perform and court time and time again always initiating always making the offer and always selling it. That sounds shitty if your a salesperson and even worse when the product is yourself. But how could you even begin to relate to that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/22 10:23 PM |
| 0 | What issues do you actually feel for women about?Safety, I do think when a lot of them bring safety up they are probably still exaggerating when convenient for an arguement. But there are also legitimate safety concerns they face. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/22 03:52 PM |
| 2 | Men settle- women do notAhh so in a sense high quality man can settle whereas every other male is settled by default to his first and really only option. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/22 02:37 AM |
| 29 | Men settle- women do notWhere are you seeing men not accepting this as truth? Fuck even in the common zeitgeist it's pretty commonly accepted that being all of those or even some will severely damage your chances of attracting a partner barring money. Atleast if you are male that is. Like I feel it's a gut understanding even amongst blue pilled men unless they spend all their time debating RP dudes and purposefully condition themselves out of that intuition. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/22 01:48 AM |
| 2 | Men settle- women do notOnly a minority of men settle. Men with options. Did I read this wrong? It sounds like your saying only men with options settle but that cant be right 🤣 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/22 01:34 AM |
| 4 | The bar for men is low. Men who have zero success with women are doing something really wrongWell he brought up a clear statistical arguement and your response was basically "Welp no one said things were fair" it sounds like to grasping for anything to minimize the immense gap in standards. For men and women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/22 01:30 AM |
| 7 | Q4men: do you REALLY want women to be like men?Why would I want to constantly have to do all of the heavy lifting and courtship. Idk maybe I'm in the minority but I absolutely love being courted chased after and desired without having to be burdened with initiation time and time again. And I also would love if women objectified a wider variety of men as opposed to like 2% of the male population lmao. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/22 04:15 AM |
| 4 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadNo that doesn't mean that the 5'3 janitor gets all the bitches. But most men aren't 5'3 janitors. All men are 5'3 janitors, why arent you mopping right now? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/22 02:39 PM |
| 1 | since these tend to be the declared "goals" of most men and women on this subreddit what are the best ways for women to lock a down a "good partner" and for men to get more access to sex.Imma have to take a few days to collect my thoughts on this before replying, so I don't just info dump a very rambly essay | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/22 06:02 AM |
| 1 | since these tend to be the declared "goals" of most men and women on this subreddit what are the best ways for women to lock a down a "good partner" and for men to get more access to sex.What are you thoughts on the idea that most good partners get snatched up early. Wouldn't that hurt a womans chance of consolidating on a HVM if she decides to wait? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/22 11:37 PM |
| 3 | What's the best piece of dating advice given to you (that worked) and did it come from a man or woman?I'd say not neccesarily that hot=crazy but hot girls definitely have way less Incentives to work on mental health then the test of the population | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/22 10:32 PM |
| 2 | What's the best piece of dating advice given to you (that worked) and did it come from a man or woman?Lmao I did so once and didnt learn my lesson. Did it a second time and did, learned my lesson 💀 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/22 10:30 PM |
| 1 | since these tend to be the declared "goals" of most men and women on this subreddit what are the best ways for women to lock a down a "good partner" and for men to get more access to sex.Ahh we arent there quite yet , maybe one day. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/22 10:24 PM |
| 1 | since these tend to be the declared "goals" of most men and women on this subreddit what are the best ways for women to lock a down a "good partner" and for men to get more access to sex.Idk there's a LOT of differing advice being thrown about here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/22 10:08 PM |
| 1 | since these tend to be the declared "goals" of most men and women on this subreddit what are the best ways for women to lock a down a "good partner" and for men to get more access to sex.I would add while its important to do research and break it down as much as possible. One needs to focus as much as possible on what they can change to avoid being gripper by intense despair. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/22 07:14 PM |
| 1 | since these tend to be the declared "goals" of most men and women on this subreddit what are the best ways for women to lock a down a "good partner" and for men to get more access to sex.It sounds like you would strongly prefer to know someone for a while before dating them. I'm going to venture to guess that with your career stated as it was. Most of your time is sucked into that and you don't have the time to attend socials or communities really. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/22 07:08 PM |
| 1 | since these tend to be the declared "goals" of most men and women on this subreddit what are the best ways for women to lock a down a "good partner" and for men to get more access to sex.So you are a top tier man Ahh I wouldnt say that, I hope to be one day but I'm not their yet. I also identify as non binary (being refered to as male stings). There are a multitude of issues that keep me I have like -5 self esteem with dating. If given the opportunity I will be extremely submissive in like every regard if I believe I can get away with it with a partner. This looks ridiculous when you consider how physically large I am. It seems as if women who want a truelly femine partner are t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/22 07:05 PM |
| 1 | since these tend to be the declared "goals" of most men and women on this subreddit what are the best ways for women to lock a down a "good partner" and for men to get more access to sex.No problem at all, I hope things ultimately work out for you in some capacity or another 😊. I'd avoid advertising it, just emphasizing to the men in your life you want to date that you dont care about the provider stuff as long as they arent lazy and you care about the personalities more. Especially when they try to flex wallet. You might have to do this a lot until they get it through their skulls, as it's not the common experience for them. My current partner has many stories regarding how oft… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/22 06:31 PM |
| 1 | Straight Women will judge the ways a guy asks them out, but only because they never have to do the asking out part.My arguement was not peoples esteem is eroded by a singular rejection. But by rejection being the overwhelming majority of their experience when compared to their peers. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/22 06:22 PM |
| 4 | since these tend to be the declared "goals" of most men and women on this subreddit what are the best ways for women to lock a down a "good partner" and for men to get more access to sex.Well, then yes. If men’s default state is only caring about access to sex that would make them unloveable to most women. Men deceive themselves when they say this, they want to be desired and be loved but barring that they say just want sex because implying women are only desired is a way of "evening the score". Since in theory not being sexually desirable is not as painful or reflective of someone as not being romantically desirable. I dont believe the men here when they say that. the resentmen… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/22 06:17 PM |
| 1 | since these tend to be the declared "goals" of most men and women on this subreddit what are the best ways for women to lock a down a "good partner" and for men to get more access to sex.Hey that's valid af, you don't have to change for a man and you shouldn't expect too. I personally dont care about having a homemaker I'd much rather ne the homemaker be subby all the time and focus on family nurturing as my primary role but due to my skill set and appearance (I am freakishly tall and have been body building for two years) I get pushed into the most masculine roles possible. However women pursue me a lot more now (I wasnt getting anything before accepting my role) And it just fe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/22 06:05 PM |
| 2 | since these tend to be the declared "goals" of most men and women on this subreddit what are the best ways for women to lock a down a "good partner" and for men to get more access to sex.guess that’s what I can’t get my head around. I wouldn’t be happy because I’d have to lie and do loads of things I don’t want to do, and give up things I do want to do. Just to please a man who doesn’t have to change a damn thing. I can almost promise that this will not happen to you, the reason men are happier with this state of affairs is because they understand the relative worthlessness of male companionship ensures they need to provide additional value packaged with that companionship to sw… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/22 05:58 PM |
| 2 | since these tend to be the declared "goals" of most men and women on this subreddit what are the best ways for women to lock a down a "good partner" and for men to get more access to sex.So bear with me on this. In that scenario the man is not unhappy with you especially not in your totality just with a few key personality expectations you may or may not even have. He probably loves you half to death and is happy to change what he was (which is different from changing yourself) to have the chance to be with you in the first place. I just dont understand why its acting If it stops being that after a certain point. I understand the anxious thoughts about worst case scenarios but I… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/22 05:52 PM |
| 3 | since these tend to be the declared "goals" of most men and women on this subreddit what are the best ways for women to lock a down a "good partner" and for men to get more access to sex.You can’t just change your entire personality, change your dreams/desires, change what you enjoy, change your beliefs/values/morals. You dont gave to change all of those and not all at once either. Just enough to not be another undesirable disposable male. Humans are surprisingly adaptive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/22 05:39 PM |
| 2 | Women need to give men more chances for a while before ghosting them out forever...Because the guy that “gets you” could likely be just a charming handsome man who has figured out women and how to make you feel that way. The. You get used and hurt. Yea that can happen but you wont know until after the fact and you were still attested to that dude. While the guy who cant carry the conversation is making you put in more work than it would be to just reply to guy #32 who hasn't made a mistake like that yet. The math still works in her favor to ghost you without explanation. Confr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/22 05:38 PM |
| 1 | since these tend to be the declared "goals" of most men and women on this subreddit what are the best ways for women to lock a down a "good partner" and for men to get more access to sex.Well I'd argue that character is "you" by extension just not the "you" you are most comfortable being. And if both parties are happy does it matter? I think this is explicitly male concern though in dating. And something you will never have to encounter except on the receiving end. Unless it matters to you if a partner in this manner out of worry you might leave them. Granted their are scenarios I can understand let's say they are secretly an axe murder than yea its problematic. But not wanting … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/22 05:34 PM |
| 1 | Straight Women will judge the ways a guy asks them out, but only because they never have to do the asking out part.What's your criteria for that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/22 05:25 PM |
| 1 | since these tend to be the declared "goals" of most men and women on this subreddit what are the best ways for women to lock a down a "good partner" and for men to get more access to sex.I can agree that people shouldnt have too. I don't neccesarily think it's a miserable existence however. We in whole or in part change large parts of ourselves for others, for work sometimes for friends sometimes for family. I'd like to think it's not a terrible price to pay if it means being loved by someone you love. And I would like to think humans are more innately mutable and moldable than we make ourselves out to be. You can change a lot in life. As long as my partner is happy and I feel l… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/22 05:25 PM |
| 3 | since these tend to be the declared "goals" of most men and women on this subreddit what are the best ways for women to lock a down a "good partner" and for men to get more access to sex.Fair enough | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/22 05:16 PM |
| 2 | since these tend to be the declared "goals" of most men and women on this subreddit what are the best ways for women to lock a down a "good partner" and for men to get more access to sex.All of it? There arent any innate gender preferences that manifest outwards? I mean as an example we will NEVER have any type of culture where women approach men nearly as much men approach women. For sex or relationships for that matter. What social constructions do you believe we would have to tear down for something like this to occur. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/22 05:12 PM |
| 2 | since these tend to be the declared "goals" of most men and women on this subreddit what are the best ways for women to lock a down a "good partner" and for men to get more access to sex.It's easier to regain your frame and learn from mistakes after a slip up on a rare occaison. It can be exhausting but the alternative is to be yourself and then be suprised when women want nothing to do with you. Then blame them despite having multiple clear examples of ways you could of warped your personality until it was marketable enough. Or these men can just hope being a good person with some interesting hobbies is enough and hold out hope until they end up in a box. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/22 05:09 PM |
| 1 | since these tend to be the declared "goals" of most men and women on this subreddit what are the best ways for women to lock a down a "good partner" and for men to get more access to sex.What do you think would cause OLD to die. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/22 04:52 PM |
| 3 | Women need to give men more chances for a while before ghosting them out forever...No one is perfect men especially. We get nervous and are infallible. One thing I seem to notice (especially with OLD) is how truly easy it is to do ONE wrong minor thing and be wrote off forever. Why would you give more time to someone when you could just ghost them and talk to someone who "just gets you" there are always other men and men after that and men after that on and on down swipes. No one is going care for your reasons as to why you cannot perform or compete properly in this area only … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/22 04:50 PM |
| 26 | since these tend to be the declared "goals" of most men and women on this subreddit what are the best ways for women to lock a down a "good partner" and for men to get more access to sex.Even the part about showering?🥴 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/22 04:45 PM |
| 5 | since these tend to be the declared "goals" of most men and women on this subreddit what are the best ways for women to lock a down a "good partner" and for men to get more access to sex.Ok first of all , I'm happy you were able to find a workflow that improved the quality of your life. That's something a lot of people struggle with. My issue with the post is that a lot of what your were bringing up isint mutually exclusive. Heres my assessment , men a are interested in women they desire them sexually and romantically .however average men by virtue of being men have little to nothing to offer average women. To compensate for this they have to "fake it till they make it" and muta… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/22 04:41 PM |
| 3 | since these tend to be the declared "goals" of most men and women on this subreddit what are the best ways for women to lock a down a "good partner" and for men to get more access to sex.I never understood this one tbh. In the worst case scenarios you'll have as many suitors as the most attractive men (excluding the litteral famous). Women really underestimate how much men care about personality traits. If your outgoing warm sociable or funny (at least one of these things in relation your peers) guys will climb over themselves for a chance to date you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/22 04:16 PM |
| 0 | Straight Women will judge the ways a guy asks them out, but only because they never have to do the asking out part.I feel like that isint the case the overwhelming number of people since it seems to be No.1 complaint by males. I definitely haven't had that experience either. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/22 04:11 PM |
| 9 | since these tend to be the declared "goals" of most men and women on this subreddit what are the best ways for women to lock a down a "good partner" and for men to get more access to sex.That's valid, I originally came here to vent and feel validated / debate with a few users. But now it's kind of just interesting to talk and hear other peoples takes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/22 04:10 PM |
| 0 | Straight Women will judge the ways a guy asks them out, but only because they never have to do the asking out part.Ok sure but is that really worth it if they have to endure multiple rejections? Enduring romantic rejections really erodes peoples self esteem and also if women ask men out with more frequency assuming an even distribution (yea right). That would make it so that they collectively lost some power in dating because male companionship is more sought after as a result. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/22 04:04 PM |
| 6 | since these tend to be the declared "goals" of most men and women on this subreddit what are the best ways for women to lock a down a "good partner" and for men to get more access to sex.fuck them for that haha Well I suppose that was the intial goal for a lot of men 🤣 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/22 04:02 PM |
| 4 | since these tend to be the declared "goals" of most men and women on this subreddit what are the best ways for women to lock a down a "good partner" and for men to get more access to sex.This sounds like good advice, but what should be people (myself for example) who feel intense animosity towards their gender role or hate being the gender they are. In a situation like this to maximize their chances. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/22 04:01 PM |
| 7 | since these tend to be the declared "goals" of most men and women on this subreddit what are the best ways for women to lock a down a "good partner" and for men to get more access to sex.It’s not a platitude. If you interact with women like they’re walking holes whose sole purpose is to grant your dick entry, you’re going to have a much harder time. You will almost certainly come off as desperate, disingenuous and creepy. It is a platitude because your asserting that starting with the goal of trying to have lots of sex implies a bunch of other things like "interacting with women like they are walking holes". It's a deflection nobody who is trying to have tons of sex is straight … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/22 03:59 PM |
| 2 | Straight Women will judge the ways a guy asks them out, but only because they never have to do the asking out part.It’s time we achieve gender equality, if any of you lady’s are crushing on someone, ask them out. Learn from your mistakes like any straight man does. Don’t just get spoon fed initiation and complain when it doesn’t go your way. Why would they do that when rejection is often painful and scary? What do they gain in return. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/22 03:43 PM |
| 8 | since these tend to be the declared "goals" of most men and women on this subreddit what are the best ways for women to lock a down a "good partner" and for men to get more access to sex.Lmao facts. Though if every man were "attractive " then I think only 20% of the most attractive out of those would have any agency or power in their dating lives. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/22 03:42 PM |
| 6 | since these tend to be the declared "goals" of most men and women on this subreddit what are the best ways for women to lock a down a "good partner" and for men to get more access to sex.Why do you think that longer lasting monogamous relationships are as rare as they are if this is the case then. It seems its not until late 20s and 30s that a larger portion of people end up in LTR's and even then they come with a alarmingly high divorce rate. /cheating / dead bedrooms ect. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/22 03:41 PM |
| 12 | since these tend to be the declared "goals" of most men and women on this subreddit what are the best ways for women to lock a down a "good partner" and for men to get more access to sex.This sounds like a platitude. I dont see any evidence dressing up the wording differently is going to change anything if this is what the majority of men claim to want deep down. You can narrate whatever frame you want but your internal desires are still yours. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/22 03:37 PM |
| 1 | A 6-9/10 guy should not struggle to land his equivalent for sex or LTR, but he does. A 4-6/10 woman has zero problem snagging a 7-10 dude for sex or LTR. This is the problem with modern datingThere are a few studies people throw around here pointing out that divorced men are way more likely to remarry and that unmarried women are happier ect ect. I think I might make a CMV post regarding this actually. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/22 02:32 PM |
| 1 | A 6-9/10 guy should not struggle to land his equivalent for sex or LTR, but he does. A 4-6/10 woman has zero problem snagging a 7-10 dude for sex or LTR. This is the problem with modern datingIts pretty commonly accepted by even the women on this sub that men want relationships more than women and are happier with them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/22 02:22 PM |
| 2 | A 6-9/10 guy should not struggle to land his equivalent for sex or LTR, but he does. A 4-6/10 woman has zero problem snagging a 7-10 dude for sex or LTR. This is the problem with modern datingNormal" guys I know in real life, i.e. who have decent appearance, are socially competent, have a job etc., don't really struggle much with dating. Sure, they can't pull every woman they want, but they usually don't stay single for long if they're actively looking for a partner either. I strongly suspect the men visible to you in that context are above average but for the sake of discussion. Are you sure they arent putting in a LOT of effort if they are actively looking for a partner? I imagine … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/22 02:21 PM |
| 1 | A 6-9/10 guy should not struggle to land his equivalent for sex or LTR, but he does. A 4-6/10 woman has zero problem snagging a 7-10 dude for sex or LTR. This is the problem with modern datingYall really think just existing with a penis should qualify males for sex, love, a womb, domestic servitude, all the risks and costs involved, AND a subsidy. Well it works the other way around if you have a 🐱. To add, the selfishness, lack of effort, and lack of literal attractiveness knocks a lot of men out of the running Cap. Men are the ones carrying conversation courting and doing all the work. What knocks them out of the running are that there are men who are attractive enough to not need t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/22 02:18 PM |
| 3 | Do any woman here follow Female Dating Strategy? If you do, how is your dating life? What kind of men do you attract?Lmao that sounds amazing tho ngl. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/22 10:00 PM |
| 5 | Do any woman here follow Female Dating Strategy? If you do, how is your dating life? What kind of men do you attract?Can you give me a rundown of what pink pill is or some resources on it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/22 08:55 PM |
| 8 | I'm lgbt but I have done deep dives in both pills: debate is nice but what is your solution ?There are no global solutions, women will continue to dictate the landscape of dating as they see fit, men will oblige and try to finds someway to adapt to that landscape. Human nature doesn't change. The only thing I can see really changing about the sexual market is that it over time will probably become more difficult for men and less difficult for women over all. Their are individual solutions for individual men that have the ability to meet the increasingly ballooning standards they face bu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/22 01:55 PM |
| 20 | Guys cannot claim they have low standards if they wont date overweight women.they just want their cake and to eat it too Ahh but isn't that how the problem started? 🤣 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/22 01:39 PM |
| 2 | Why do red pilled men attempt to date seriously?Well I want to be a 1% man, I make a strong income and I'm young, I want to press the male advantage and do as much as I can so that I'm hitting my stride on my mid 20s and early 30s. If my current leaves me , her loss because one day I will make it into that cohort and finnaly be if value. Painful? Yes? Exciting? Also yes | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/22 01:14 AM |
| 1 | Reducing sexual attraction down to only physical appearance and hypergamy is oversimplified and cowardly.Hmmm I'm wondering what are the factors you think might of most affected that. Are you particularly short? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 02:30 AM |
| 1 | What does it cost to be a top 1% man?-thanos voice- Everything | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/22 06:30 AM |
| 1 | If you're a guy whose goal is to have as many children as possible, what is your best course of action?Guys it was a joke lmao | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/22 06:19 AM |
| 5 | Ladies, what is the biggest thing that the men on this sub get wrong about women?Why can’t both misandry and misogyny be bad? This isn’t kindergarten, 2 wrongs don’t make a right Anger is often a justified and legitimate reaction to a perceived injustice it is for humans regardless of age. Denigrating legitimate feels of anger and disdain for how one gender benefits from its role and then praising the reverse is the status quo and I know you dont genuinely believe society gives a shit or ever will about misandry. The behaviour men enact on women in dating is objectively wors… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/22 06:10 AM |
| 8 | Ladies, what is the biggest thing that the men on this sub get wrong about women?My theory is that men simply do not see/notice women they deem “ugly,” but then expect women they are interested in to love them for their inner beauty. I never understood why people say this it seems largely like women projecting their feelings and behaviors onto men. Men jump on the first person to give them love/commitment at a rate that annoys most women to the point where they often complain about not feeling special because "any women would do" as a real and genuine fear. Either way those … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/22 05:52 AM |
| 2 | Ladies, what is the biggest thing that the men on this sub get wrong about women?If rp is bringing men success I dont If care I'f the instructions arent being wrapped up in lame ass disclaimers trying to justify the way women treat men in dating. Or trying to minimize the shitty collective behaviors they visit on men. (Or vice versa for that matter )There is plenty of culturally accepted misandry women are allowed to express openly in frustration with men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/22 05:48 AM |
| 2 | If men could choose their sexuality, would they choose to be bisexual?Absolutely! men have treated me wonderfully! And I've gotten a lot of attention from them the men who are into me. Spend time getting to know me and it felt like we were equals when I experimented with dating guys and a freshman in uni. Bery Unfortunately It turned out I wasnt sexually attracted to the male body but dating men was my best dating experience by far and has been full of many wonderful and cherished moments I look back on with happiness even it was short lived. So yes I definitely w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/22 05:43 AM |
| 4 | Reducing sexual attraction down to only physical appearance and hypergamy is oversimplified and cowardly.Honestly I'm just really happy to see some women here admitting to this. Not even out of malice It's feels really validating just to not have people constantly trying to deny it because they dont actually give a shit about what guys experience. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/22 03:23 AM |
| – | Ladies, what is the biggest thing that the men on this sub get wrong about women?Yes, often people talk about the “sexual marketplace” and what rate and value you are in that marketplace. Rating people by a number, rating your value based on superficial things… I find it dehumanizing, like we are all being viewed as pieces of meat in a used car lot or something. This is why I’m always trying to remind people here to stay human, lol. Most women don’t want to be viewed like that, we would rather just find where we can connect with each other. That's because that's how men are … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/22 02:07 AM |
| 2 | Reducing sexual attraction down to only physical appearance and hypergamy is oversimplified and cowardly.Actually Most americans are fat So I think the motivation in his case might be stats. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/22 01:50 AM |
| 7 | Reducing sexual attraction down to only physical appearance and hypergamy is oversimplified and cowardly.I've heard many guys in this sub be adamant that it is only looks or hypergamy that determine who someone wants to sleep with. That reflects a view of people that is frankly pretty sad. Sure, there are a lot of shallow people in the world. There's a prevalent stereotype that men only care about physical appearance and nothing else. However, it's obvious that everyone is a little bit different in what they are attracted to and we all land somewhere on a spectrum. The existence of Variation does n… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/22 01:48 AM |
| 6 | Reducing sexual attraction down to only physical appearance and hypergamy is oversimplified and cowardly.Well not everyone is going to be willing to do that, this being said I think a lot of women forget that men also speak amongst themselves about their interactions with women collectively. I used to skinnyfat and got bassicaly 0 attention outside of explictely abusive/unstable types or girls with no options. I did body building for 2 years and I get a women being (obviously)orward with me about twice a month. This was while dealing with depression/ making 0 effort to interact with people in a dat… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/22 01:46 AM |
| 5 | Reducing sexual attraction down to only physical appearance and hypergamy is oversimplified and cowardly.Lmaoooooo, though to be fair most people are fat 🤣 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/22 01:40 AM |
| 15 | Reducing sexual attraction down to only physical appearance and hypergamy is oversimplified and cowardly.Well they do flirt and sometimes even make the first move if you get to that point and do the bare minimum for social media presence. Bruh women on this sub love to downplay how much a comittment to physical fitness can be like night and day for men whilst also having 0 experience in those shoes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/22 01:25 AM |
| 1 | How are people supposed to find partners?How are people supposed to find partners? Be attractive. the same women who just told you to "go outside" will dissuade you from approaching stranger women irl because it's "weird" as they "don't even know you" and of course every other woman is "demisexual" who needs to "know you for some time " to even be able to tell if she's "attracted". So? Approach anyway. Why are you listening to them for dating advice. If they think you were weird for something as simple as cold approaching that's their … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/22 08:39 PM |
| 1 | TRP, Blackpill, and feminism are all symptoms of patriarchy.Thank you, My only issue with how you have been discussing things is with this definition there are issues, specifically defining the entire system top down as pattiarchial because the oligarcic elites ( an infentismally small population) yield great benefit from all that you had previously mentioned. In a culture where purchasing power education and general safety and benefits through social programs are largely benefited to women over men. (Who both vastly outnumber the elites and arguable col… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/22 08:34 PM |
| 1 | TRP and feminism have similar underlying beliefs about what a woman "brings to the table".Feminism is about making the genders as equal as possible, women being paid the same as a guy for the same job, guys getting more time to raise children, men and women both being called out for shitty behaviour. This is only true if you insist on being a lingual prescriptivist. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/22 08:24 PM |
| 1 | TRP, Blackpill, and feminism are all symptoms of patriarchy.How do you define patriarchy at that point. Because your making it sound like some authoritative collusion between men at that point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/22 08:19 PM |
| 3 | TRP behavior and modern women behavior are mirror images of each otherAhhh I had to block some woman from this sub who slid into my Dm's with hard unatable stalkery vibes so idk. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/22 06:26 AM |
| 11 | Self identifying Blue pilled people....are you successful in love...and if so....MAYBE youre blue pilled BECAUSE of that, not despite thatLmao she didn't even have to do that tbh. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/22 11:24 PM |
| 1 | Redditors always say treat women like people and not objects to be won but the way dating has gone encourages this sort of thinkingI mean.. I had tons of rejection too.. it wasn't all success.. or even a majority of successes.. Well your still a dude man 🤣 It sounds like you played a brutal numbers game that's something that a lot of young men dont seem willing to do as awful as it is, after putting in a lot of effort finishing with raw numbers can yield good results. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/22 09:22 PM |
| 3 | Redditors always say treat women like people and not objects to be won but the way dating has gone encourages this sort of thinkingDude your track record seems very high even by the standard of the good looking. Happy for you though 👌👌👌 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/22 08:58 PM |
| 0 | If you're a guy whose goal is to have as many children as possible, what is your best course of action?Work at a dutch sperm bank with lackluster operating security. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/22 08:55 PM |
| 6 | Redditors always say treat women like people and not objects to be won but the way dating has gone encourages this sort of thinkingMen want women far more than the reverse. Even if there are equal numbers most men are not desirable. Most men by virtue of being male cant offer a woman anything she couldn't get from another man easily. Even the majority of women on this sub will usually agree with these sentiments. It's just because of our biology women have always had far more risk in reproduction so it only make sense that they would only feel genuine attraction to the the top men. Conversely most men dont care who they sma… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/22 03:26 PM |
| 9 | Redditors always say treat women like people and not objects to be won but the way dating has gone encourages this sort of thinkingBecause surly if men are competing it’s for the top women. Otherwise it wouldn’t be a competition. Why? Edit: gonna give some more context. I need to elaborate than men are competing for all women certainly not just the top they are competing for the bottom women as well. Due to market forces I'd argue that the bottom women have a SMV or quality of options that is relatively similar to the top men. If we exclude hyper outliers like Bill Gates or whatever. You want to see the worthlessness of mal… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/22 02:33 PM |
| 15 | Redditors always say treat women like people and not objects to be won but the way dating has gone encourages this sort of thinkingThere (sadly) arent that many men that actually want a relationship and commitment, are kind/thoughtful/have emotional intelligence and have a career (not money but career or at least a job with prospects). The thing with this is that their cant be a scarcity of these types of men career wise as most people cluster amongst the mean. The same for desiring relationships commitment /personality. Most people have to be average unless we assume that men are a whole standard deviation shittier than wo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/22 02:33 PM |
| 14 | Redditors always say treat women like people and not objects to be won but the way dating has gone encourages this sort of thinkingThere (sadly) arent that many men that actually want a relationship and commitment, are kind/thoughtful/have emotional intelligence and have a career (not money but career or at least a job with prospects). Women have to compete for men too. If they didn’t have to compete they wouldn’t be in the gym all the time, or put so much thought into makeup etc. Apex fallacy | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/22 02:20 PM |
| 0 | Traditional blue pill advice works for attractive people and most women, Redpill advice works for average and above average men, NOTHING works for men below averageRiley I know your goofy ass didnt forget "Make muscles and be GANSTA!" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/22 03:57 PM |
| 30 | This sub is toxic for women (as well as men)Treating things like a number game but in a way that blows men out of the water. The average experience men have though women will fight us to the death on this. Is being constantly ghosted ignored and flaked on nearly 24/7 or without warning. When we say this you will try to find every reason and justification in the book to excuse the women's behavior. "Maybe you were this or that" rather than just accepting that women do this shit at nauseam just like the many things you all claim men do. So … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/22 03:35 PM |
| 27 | This sub is toxic for women (as well as men)How he doesn’t actually find me attractive he is just playing a numbers game. These arent mutual exclusive. a lot of guys will play the numbers even if they really like you until you actually show strong interest because the average women will ghost be fickle and unreliable in OLD Dont take it personally at all if your being honest. Than it's not you men just have to be aware of how women are operating now a days and act accordingly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/22 03:24 PM |
| 5 | Women here on PPD recognize the leverage they have in dating but when TRP tells men how to tip the scales back into their favor they shame/shun it.There is an arguement to be made that these views inflict significant psychological damage. Though price of being unaware is far greater. I slowly came to have being single as I realized how little I was desired while every (mostly women) friend I had would feed me bluepill shit when I stressed out about it. It only got worse and worse until I made a commitment to body building and then suddenly all these options out of the blue. And I'm expected to believe that it was because "muh personality "… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/22 11:45 PM |
| 3 | Women here on PPD recognize the leverage they have in dating but when TRP tells men how to tip the scales back into their favor they shame/shun it.I'm happy things worked out for you. Honestly I prefer to look at this with a silver lining. I think the while awful all of the agony endured will result in a cultural shift down the line where relationships are not pedastalized. At least in the toxic context of heterosexuality. And people becoming more aware of the shitty nature of each gender. Maybe disney movies will one day glamorize singlehood instead 🤣 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/22 11:31 PM |
| 7 | Women here on PPD recognize the leverage they have in dating but when TRP tells men how to tip the scales back into their favor they shame/shun it.There's no harm in leveraging every advantage you can (within reason) in a unforgiving market where everyone is in a self serving race to the bottom. You won't be doing the world a service by ignoring the frequency and depth of the unsavoury collective behaviors of men or women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/22 11:24 PM |
| 6 | Women here on PPD recognize the leverage they have in dating but when TRP tells men how to tip the scales back into their favor they shame/shun it.I mean replace food with resources/attention and this isint inaccurate. People are selfish the market moves on. At least RP/FDS can once you get past the well deserved bitterness, provide useful wisdom in terms of defending oneself in the dating market. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/22 11:20 PM |
| 1 | The reason that the disparity in sexual privilege between men and women is so obfuscated not because there's any real doubt about it, but because of the solutions it impliesGood reply I'd add one more thing. To it however a lot of guys use RP to ensure they are able to secure long term commitment from a woman without having to BB. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/22 09:37 PM |
| 1 | If women are Hypergamous, manosphere men want thatOkay, but that is no different from “best of available options” which is a human trait found in both men and women. The RP stance as well as my own is that while both men and women want this, as a rule with exceptions women's genuine attraction and loyalty is predicated on this while mens is not. Sure. When you find something like that, let me know. Ahh if you spend a decent amount of time checking out threads here you'll bump into these types of things mid arguement eventually. More options for… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/22 09:14 PM |
| 6 | If A Man Can Get A Younger Partner By Dumping His Older One Then He ShouldI mean that's pretty fucked up for the point of leaving the kids without a father. Assuming no progeny I totally agree if it's a BB situation then be hypergamous yourself sure. But dont overestimate your own SMV. If it's not BB than why risk a diamond in the rough? Have you seen the average woman lately? 😬 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/22 09:03 PM |
| 7 | The reason that the disparity in sexual privilege between men and women is so obfuscated not because there's any real doubt about it, but because of the solutions it impliesFrom my understanding, that post isint directly stating afbb to be untrue just bringing to light an opinion from a single expert offering critique of it. Which Is fine we should obviously look into critiquing and supportings studies and opinions in the field. I dont see why any of that implies a "conspiracy" I'll definitely read some of the comments when I reach home. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/22 06:58 PM |
| 10 | The reason that the disparity in sexual privilege between men and women is so obfuscated not because there's any real doubt about it, but because of the solutions it impliesWho are conspirators in his conspiracy exactly? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/22 06:50 PM |
| 1 | If women are Hypergamous, manosphere men want thatThat’s not measurable in aggregate. Why not? It’s also subjective, and the standards of beauty in men and women are different. Ok? They can still compared with other members of their own genders thus negating the relevance of individual preferences. With most men being taller than most women, seems like a bad metric how does being taller than a woman make a man “better” than her? Ok I'm understanding your confusion now. Hypergamy doesn't in this context mean a guy must be better than Y girl in s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/22 06:46 PM |
| 2 | If women are Hypergamous, manosphere men want thatWhy not just look at measurable things such as attractiveness, income, height, or reported ratings for various personality traits given to men by women and other men in comparison with their popularity with women. Social status ect ect. Theres a whole host of metrics to chose from. Since average men have relatively very few compared to average women. Then the difference in agency comes about from gender. If a man similar options to a woman outside of BB he must be bringing something more to the … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/22 06:21 PM |
| 2 | If women are Hypergamous, manosphere men want thatCan you give some examples of what loose criteria you are referring too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/22 05:44 PM |
| 3 | If women are Hypergamous, manosphere men want thatBetter than what you could usually get in some way. Is more accurate. It's only subjective on the individual level which is a worthless datapoint when looking at things in aggregate. Their is an ever growing lopsidedness in male sexual success so there must be some ways that will yield much better average results than others. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/22 05:09 PM |
| 1 | Why are divorced and widowed men more likely to remarry than divorced and widowed women?Women already have access to many of the things marriage provides by virtue of being women. Unless a guy is exceptional , why bother with the hassle if your already getting what you want? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/22 02:48 PM |
| 2 | Why don't the AFCs (average frustrated chumps) just go to Asia?What happens when you bring her back to your home culture and she no longer has need of you? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/22 02:45 PM |
| 2 | Why don't the AFCs (average frustrated chumps) just go to Asia?what would happen if an actual Chad went to Asia? Would it be on the news? Would the universe implode into a black hole of pussy? Bro piss off I was drinking water when I read this 🤣 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/22 02:45 PM |
| 1 | if men have to commit to women to get "wifey" behavior from women (cooking/cleaning nurturing), do women have to earn husband behavior? (financial providing, protection)Huh, that's interesting, I usually did the opposite rejecting first dates that were expensive. But being fine paying for a dinner / more investment into things. if the woman showed consistent sustained and genuine interest . Interesting to see someone employing the reverse. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/22 02:42 PM |
| 1 | If women are Hypergamous, manosphere men want thatSerial monogamy is still monogamy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/22 06:12 AM |
| 1 | If women are Hypergamous, manosphere men want thatAccording to TRP, a woman who is not Hypergamous is indiscriminate with who she fucks. A super slut likes to fuck a lot of men and opens her legs casually, for many men. A lack of tight standards does mot neccesarily imply she let's anyone fuck her. There are plenty of women who just aren't that into sex for whatever reason, in fact there are even a few that see it as something special only to give to those they want to be in ltrs with Hypergamous woman in theory makes him feel special, because … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/22 06:11 AM |
| 1 | What even is a "good personality"?For men, its confidence proactivness and charisma, and most importantly looks. Focus on those and you will be good to go. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/22 05:53 AM |
| 9 | Even if it is true, (I don’t think it is) Why is being BBb considered such a bad thing?So…being the man that a woman chooses to spend her life with, to father her children, to be loved and depended on and trusted is somehow a consolation prize compared to being the 32 minutes of her life that she regrets the most? Regrets? Nay. Remembers fondly, even years down the line. Probably. Outside of "fathering her children" none of that shit is assumed. Coin flip odds of spending a "life time together" Doubtful you will be loved (outside of your wallet). If she didn't desire you back then… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/22 05:50 AM |
| 3 | if men have to commit to women to get "wifey" behavior from women (cooking/cleaning nurturing), do women have to earn husband behavior? (financial providing, protection)but still, what year is it?! splitting the bill is absolutely accepted as normal in the dating scene today. Amongst heterosexuals? At best you well get some claiming they like the idea. The only time women are eager to do that is if the guy is really attractive, otherwise free meal. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/22 05:41 AM |
| 0 | Many women are bitter but don't want to be called out on itBecause all of that can amount to jack shit if the guy isint confident, particularly outgoing or willing to make the first move. Women always claim that's theres is abundance of shitty men theykeep having encounters with romantically then simultaneously imply the men who arent being picked be women at all must must be explained by some moral failing on the part of those men. As if moral character and intial dating success match up like a perfect 1:1 set. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/22 05:32 AM |
| 2 | The idea that red pillers are some fringe minority of basement dwellers commiserating in back alley forums is a huge misconception. Most red pillers are attractive, desirable men who have some degree of success with women.If you look on any of the TRP Facebook groups, most of the dudes in there are attractive, fit and confident guys. They are not the n3ckbeard caricatures women try to depict them as. The fact that even these men still struggle to some degree only reinforces man0sphere ideologies, not detract from them. I'd be willing to be that that the average dude in a rp group is just that.. Average. From a purely statistical sense most people are average in attractivness and also rp stuff works best for avera… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/22 02:19 PM |
| 6 | The idea that red pillers are some fringe minority of basement dwellers commiserating in back alley forums is a huge misconception. Most red pillers are attractive, desirable men who have some degree of success with women.Men talk about their collective experiences with women amongst themselves too you know. That's why these generalizations keep popping up. Because they are generally true. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/22 02:06 PM |
| 1 | Having women as friends is basedBased on a true story. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/22 02:04 PM |
| 1 | if the population were 75% men and 25% women, would women have more or less privilege in society?Some wars were fought entirely by volunteers and mercenaries. Do you think this was the norm? And most men historically were not conscripted. Places like the Soviet Union during WWII were exceptions, not the rule. Being treated like a woman was nearly universal to almost all women. This is only vaguely true if you used the modern definition of conscription which comes loaded with other concepts such as a nation state by definition. Conscription literally dates back to antiquity. You would be har… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/22 01:53 PM |
| 1 | Conflicting desires about wanting women with ‘standards’This is a pretty thought out post. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/22 12:45 PM |
| 1 | if the population were 75% men and 25% women, would women have more or less privilege in society?I will agree that being kept in a cage and treated like a dumb pet is indeed generally slightly better than dying in a battlefield. But remember, historically, for the men that didn’t die, battle was an opportunity for advancement and personal gain as well. Many men did choose to go to war because they believed looting would lead to a better life. And for example, during the medieval era, the wealthy went to war as well— they simply had the vastly better equipment of horses and armor. This is in… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/22 01:48 AM |
| 1 | if the population were 75% men and 25% women, would women have more or less privilege in society?No the utility is that act as a vector of force projection for enrichment and or protection of the state and society at large. The fact that they hope they win and maybe get something out of it does not change that. Their societies are aware that many of them will die and is ok with that because men are seen as less valuable than women. dying. If you really do just want to kill unwanted men on your own side, there are way cheaper ways to do it. Go on and elaborate on this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/22 06:19 PM |
| 3 | if the population were 75% men and 25% women, would women have more or less privilege in society?No they were sent to die for the utility their combat would give to their rulers . Soldiers always die in conflicts . | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/22 02:07 PM |
| 2 | if the population were 75% men and 25% women, would women have more or less privilege in society?Wrong. He is observing that women conflate B with A Regardless of the chain of events. pointing out this conflation is illogical is pointless because women still actively choose to do it. And speak and act in manners that imply B-> A. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/22 02:05 PM |
| 1 | Flaws of the 80/20 ruleUsing average ratings doesn't make sense since women individually give different ratings. Women always try to bring this point up. The fact that women may give *different * ratings for some arbitrary value of different. doesn't speak to the uniformity of variance from the mean of the ratings which for most guys will be pretty low. If you took a random man and had a large sample size of women rate him, their ratings would probably look like a bell curve. With a large enough sample size, most peop… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/22 01:46 PM |
| 2 | How do you think internalized homophobia can misguide men into becoming bitterI feel your agony fam 🧘♂️🧘♀️ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/22 02:02 AM |
| 2 | How do you think internalized homophobia can misguide men into becoming bitterPardon me but it is very stupid to say that straight men view gay/bi dudes with envy. That is like saying a choking man views a fish with envy because it breathes water instead of air. It is utterly senseless. Not a huge fan of the comparison of gay people to fish unless were talking fish sticks 😉.but I know what your trying to say. I have never felt anything even approaching a sense of envy towards guy dudes just because they are getting sex when I'm not - and that is because the type of sex th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/22 09:44 PM |
| 3 | Women outnumbering Men in college.Arguably a world where people are free to choose more aspects of themselves. Could be a much better one than the one we live in currently. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/22 08:51 PM |
| 1 | Women outnumbering Men in college.Hey man your life is a well deserved gift even if you have privileges. Idk maybe things could get worse maybe that wouldnt neccesarily be bad. I like to imagine that if things kept getting worse and one day we suddenly figure out a way to change personality traits about ourselves. Then many men and women might modify themselves in a way that they are ace/aro/same gender attracted/whatever else. Them suddenly a lot of this ceases to be an issue. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/22 08:26 PM |
| 0 | Women outnumbering Men in college.That's really the result of the supreme court being loaded the way it is. You can extrapolate and say it's because trump because right wing populism which was because men are disenfranchised sure I get that. But theres a lot more factors to it then that. And women make up the majority of the voting/consumer base anyway. As more men disconnect from society they will collectively lose more political and economic sway so this is a temporary setback in terms of the direction we are going. A better a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/22 08:12 PM |
| 12 | How do you think internalized homophobia can misguide men into becoming bitterWith how much experimentation happens nowadays? I doubt it. If anything most straight dudes are looking at gay/bi men with burning envy now a days for being able to date men. Well seeing as we use to be so homophobic as children I guess it's a sick but fitting form of karmic justice. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/22 08:06 PM |
| 2 | Women outnumbering Men in college.Does anyone else see the problem? As a societal issue is this something that needs to be addressed? If you want society to address it you need to make a direct arguement as to how its going to negatively impact women in a meaningful and lasting way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/22 08:01 PM |
| 6 | When the subject of women’s abundance comes up women like to say they have “no good options” but this is nonsense. Women have plenty of attractive, desirable men interested in both LTR and hookups, they are just insanely picky.It's not that they are picky per say it's that they deal with two main problems they A.) Have massive amount of great choices earlier on. This can lead to choice paralysis due to too many options incentivizing her to hold out for the best possible deal B.) Single life is great for women because they have the freedom to use their massive SMV to extract maximum concessions from the sexual market place so a prospective mate has to be beneficial enough to reach parity with the benefit of being able … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/22 07:57 PM |
| 2 | How do you think women spend their time?the guy who made it into the 15+ category | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/22 04:45 PM |
| 1 | How do you think women spend their time?"Median number of opposite-sex partners in lifetime among sexually experienced women and men aged 25-49 years of age:" sexually experienced women and men *sexually experienced * And even if you ignore that the last part list out the subset groups and men only reach parity or excede women at the 10+ and 15+ partner mark. Gonna take a wild and provocative guess and say the overwhelming majority of dudes in general or people for that matter arent in that subset. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/22 04:10 PM |
| 9 | How do you think women spend their time?A smaller subset of men are having much more of the sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/22 03:44 PM |
| 19 | How do you think women spend their time?Same shit men do just with a helluva lot more sex love community reassruancce social support ect ect ect...and the occasional free shit/simp lmao. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/22 01:31 PM |
| 0 | What does a red pilled woman get out of the ideology?I’m every one of those things to a person so respect me, my intellect, me decision making skills, my bodily autonomy. This isint hard to find then most men who get into RP do so because they are all of those things and it still isint enough for sex or a relationship until someone is ready to settle hard for them until their late 20s at the earliest. The minidictator thing is largely a meme people are introduced too as a way to dismiss RP ideas because it's easier to assume men who are struggling… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/22 09:33 PM |
| 0 | What does a red pilled woman get out of the ideology?I always just assumed it was so get some imaginary brownie points from losers who they hope will snatch them up and give them a free lifestyle. However, when I look at divorce statistics, the majority of sources state that divorce is usually initiated by women, and furthermore partnerships where the woman doesn’t have an income have the greatest risk for divorce. Rp doesn't dictate that as a woman you shouldnt be employed it just observes that income is a marginal factor in how men select long t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/22 08:43 PM |
| 1 | What are you and why? (Also why are you here?)This is my problem with the "Enjoy the decline" shit. If I want women to be better, men need to as well. Ahh thank you for elaborating I dont really think that men "being better" at least the way women tend to describe it will lead to any reciprocation on a meta level. The HVM's who can spin plates are the ones they are desiring more often than not. Perhaps men collectively being more social lifting weights more could help. Though it could easily have then opposite effect. Raising the standards … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/22 04:36 PM |
| 0 | What are you and why? (Also why are you here?)Im unsure how that's represented in RP though? Some elaboration would definitely help. And even if it is, it shouldnt be socially restricted in a gendered fashion. We have one life to live we shouldn't expect members of one gender (men) to anything other than what's best for them for the sake of women when the reverse is not equally expected. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/22 03:59 PM |
| 0 | What are you and why? (Also why are you here?)My exact point for why I don't see the issue with RP Attitudes "enjoy the decline" "spin plates " the former shouldnt be an issue since dating is going great for women and supposedly that's all that matters. The later is just personal choice which presumably is gender neutral no? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/22 03:38 PM |
| 1 | What age does pretty privilege run out for women?To that extent? I've only ever seen the reverse but I believe your being honest. The few times I've seen women standup for men in that regard and it seems only related to weight that's probably more of an extension of body acceptance for women and them not wanting to outwardly contradict themselves in front of many people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/22 02:50 PM |
| 2 | What are you and why? (Also why are you here?)Stunctions well for who? o the responsibility to fix this is once again assumed to be on men? Unless is misunderstood your comment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/22 02:48 PM |
| 0 | What age does pretty privilege run out for women?Bruh even pretty intelligent women make excuses for all types of ridiculous shit attractive guys do. No one is gonna give a shit. Plus most women get actively hypocritical with this type of thing and will actively body shame or spread rumors about men who they disagree with or dont like anyway. Women too actually. Though no clue if they are to the same degree. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/22 01:32 PM |
| 2 | What are you and why? (Also why are you here?)I think RP is spot on when it comes to what it says about how dating works and what women want and are like, but I really hate all the plate-spinning "enjoy the decline" shit. I dont understand the apprehension people have to this it seems forced. What exactly is wrong with non monogamy when It benefits men? Woman being the gender with more power set all the terms of romance love and sex anyway. If things are declining men not just women should be able to enjoy what's left of things instead of b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/22 01:16 PM |
| 3 | Is pro-female bias biologically ingrained in us? Or is it cultural?The cultural horse pulls the genetic wagon and vice versa. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/22 12:25 AM |
| 2 | Do you think in the next couple of decades MAINSTREAM discourse will be "don't encourage average/below average men to expect or seek sex, love and relationships"?Ah my bad | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/22 07:58 PM |
| 6 | Do you think in the next couple of decades MAINSTREAM discourse will be "don't encourage average/below average men to expect or seek sex, love and relationships"?You were implying that rp asserts that their is some "conspiracy " against men. Unless I misinterpreted you | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/22 07:27 PM |
| 7 | Do you think in the next couple of decades MAINSTREAM discourse will be "don't encourage average/below average men to expect or seek sex, love and relationships"?I think the implication that there is some major conspiracy against regular men is not going to pick up as a mainstream belief. Dont conspiracies usually require *conspirators * Who exactly do you narrate the conspirators to be here in your assertion. There are just way too many normal people living their lives and having families to continue believing this conspiracy without being wilfully ignorant of what’s around you. Judging by how unbalanced the average hetero dynamic tends to be I dont thi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/22 07:23 PM |
| 2 | Are there any legit ways for men to learn how to be better with women?I believe the way it is commonly used a natural is just naturally adept at courting women into sex/relationships. Whereas a chad is an extreme subset of the former. Tho stereotyped as being only interested in casual sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/22 12:43 AM |
| 3 | Q4M: what do you mean by submission?So to not be an asshole you need to be submissive? This doesn't make sense to You have it the other way around. To be what most men claim as a "submissive woman" you just have to not moderately embody these traits. The OP asked what we meant by "submissive woman". Judging by the score on my comment a lot of men share this definition at least in part. I remember watching an ask reddit video regarding some high standards men had for woman. They bassicaly amounted to "dont be an asshole" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/22 09:40 PM |
| 6 | Q4M: what do you mean by submission?It absolutely is not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/22 06:01 PM |
| 6 | Regarding age gap relationships, it’s meaningless for women to say they would never date youngerThey don't wanna clean after lil boys. They want to dominated ,spanked and fucked hard by a MAN! Today I found out I'm a woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/22 05:23 PM |
| 7 | Q4M: what do you mean by submission?Shit well their abundant and easy to get so if one passes all your filters than hope it works out then. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/22 03:20 PM |
| 7 | Q4M: what do you mean by submission?it's usually the ones who openly talk about it don't have a choice and have to settle for the whatever comes their way. The ones who do have the options to get those types of women just yeet away the ones who arent like that without a word. Good for those men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/22 03:19 PM |
| 4 | Q4M: what do you mean by submission?Based | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/22 02:37 PM |
| -3 | Q4M: what do you mean by submission?The PPD men who think having a submissive partner means everything is easy and chill are just projecting their own desire to have an effortless relationship. They are signaling they are bad leaders, don't understand how to adult and probably would not be great to parent with. Nah we just dont want to deal with the absolute bottom of the barrel women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/22 01:17 PM |
| 26 | Q4M: what do you mean by submission?Generally supportive, nuturing, Doesnt have the "my way or the highway"/I am the prize attitude that most women bring to the table Ie:"I am the table" Not constantly looking for better options at least not explicitly or in a very obvious manner. Willing to meet their partners at least 40% of the way ideally. Though that's a lot to ask for nowadays. Not aggressive or overly disagreeable. Dont bring headaches and drama into life. Doesn't think being an unrelenting "bitch" by their own words is emp… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/22 01:14 PM |
| 3 | Are there any legit ways for men to learn how to be better with women?Lmao they gotta have hope right? 😬 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/22 01:07 PM |
| 5 | Are there any legit ways for men to learn how to be better with women?I cant tell which side your arguing on but the implications are funny either way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/22 12:40 PM |
| 7 | Are there any legit ways for men to learn how to be better with women?True but the difference for women is ok quality of life to better quality of life. Where for men it's the difference between the abundance and absolute and total scarcity. And for many of them all the change in the world doesn't suffice. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/22 12:39 PM |
| 1 | Women of PPD, would you rather looksmaxx to become a pretty woman or be a handsome man?No, the feeling of someone trusting me and believing that I not only can protect them, but can also offer guidance, provision, and love makes me feel good about myself. When struggles happen your girl will usually look to you to solve it, and they really believe you can. I want people to believe in me. Dont you tire of this being your assigned gender role? You may not value the underlying respect people give you for being a man but many women both value and envy it, there have been plenty of fem… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/22 12:12 PM |
| 11 | Are there any legit ways for men to learn how to be better with women?I'm gonna be honest with you that's essentially the solution. Like it seems too brutally simplistic but Yea😅 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/22 12:01 PM |
| 4 | Why are men expected to not be upset about their dating struggles?Because those complaints are not in compliance with prioritizing the female experience. You are expendable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/22 06:27 AM |
| 1 | Women of PPD, would you rather looksmaxx to become a pretty woman or be a handsome man?want to be perceived as strong and dependable, for all the talk of equality the way women look up to and trust their partners (in a healthy relationship) is worth having to work for it. Why? Would'nt you rather be able to look up to someone with those traits? You have less of the species to be scared of, you may not feel it but people DO respect your opinion and actions more than if you were a woman of the same social standing. Many women complain about the constant infantilazation they face eve… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/22 05:52 AM |
| 11 | Are there any legit ways for men to learn how to be better with women?It might be your environment but you should seek out places where the more social and physically improved men haunt. Gym is definitely important clubs, physical social things sports. You become the average of the company you keep. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/22 05:39 AM |
| 41 | Are there any legit ways for men to learn how to be better with women?Ignore any advice about dating coming from the mouth of a man who is a "natural" Ignore any advice about dating coming from a man who has not yet had any success. Especially Ignore any advice about dating coming from any woman. Only listen to men who have intially struggled and managed to turn that around and become successful. The closer they are to your situation the better. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/22 05:36 AM |
| 0 | As a man, I think the men here who utilize their fundamental advantages of being a man in society get called creepy and sexist39% counts all online spaces not only apps Soo are we going to act like the same trends in dating apps are not also abundantly present in the primary social media apps that heterosexual courting also happens in? Most of us don't live in any one specific country, but studies have to be from somewhere So what about the Stanford study then? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/22 10:27 PM |
| 0 | As a man, I think the men here who utilize their fundamental advantages of being a man in society get called creepy and sexistThe original source you were basing an arguement against was that women assigned arbitrary evaluations to creepiness of males based on attractiveness. Then when you were provided a study establishing this being the case the "fucked" part you tried linked to study a claming a very small amount of people met their partners online. Recall that the study was referencing women's perceptions of men was about a man committing a social error not an online dating setting. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/22 10:14 PM |
| 0 | As a man, I think the men here who utilize their fundamental advantages of being a man in society get called creepy and sexistAnd I want to establish I dont disagree that offline is the better way to meet and that gender dynamics wouldnt be as fucked. However this is what we increasingly have to work with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/22 02:44 PM |
| 0 | As a man, I think the men here who utilize their fundamental advantages of being a man in society get called creepy and sexistThe same way pooling people in a known hiking spot wouldn't be accurate for finding out what percentage of the population does exercise. This is such a false equivalency. The primary factor that determines this is more than likely age. Other studies show hetero sexual couples are more likely to meet their partners online than any other method. As of 2017 the number was at a rapidly growing 39% with no signs of slowing. There is no reason to presume these numbers suddenly and unceremoniously leve… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/22 02:25 PM |
| 0 | As a man, I think the men here who utilize their fundamental advantages of being a man in society get called creepy and sexisthttps://yougov.co.uk/topics/lifestyle/articles-reports/2020/02/13/how-do-brits-find-love Uhhh I dont see anything that purports that most people are finding their partner on things outside of some dating platform or another in this. Did you send the wrong study? And yeah you can't extrapolate stuff from dating apps to real life because dating apps have an extremely skewed gender ratio I somehow imagine that university researchers are probably aware of this when they release their studies. If the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/22 04:14 AM |
| 0 | As a man, I think the men here who utilize their fundamental advantages of being a man in society get called creepy and sexistOk so if the study is only about online dating we have to pretend the trend wont exist in all to balance things out right? 😒 While meeting people online is almost double that Source? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/22 03:51 AM |
| 1 | As a man, I think the men here who utilize their fundamental advantages of being a man in society get called creepy and sexistYea your right it doesnt represent all dating. Just most of it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/22 03:41 AM |
| 0 | As a man, I think the men here who utilize their fundamental advantages of being a man in society get called creepy and sexistI'm not sure if you clicked another link then what was available but it should of linked to this. https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/05/150527092608.htm | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/22 03:10 AM |
| 3 | As a man, I think the men here who utilize their fundamental advantages of being a man in society get called creepy and sexistBruh the study is litteraly linked in the page you were sent. This tells me you dismissed it at the first potential opportunity without doing any investigation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/22 09:57 PM |
| 2 | As a man, I think the men here who utilize their fundamental advantages of being a man in society get called creepy and sexisthttps://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/new-study-reveals-that-women-let-handsome-men-off-120195377233.html It's also probably not the best idea to imply that perceptions of creepiness are not in anyway influenced by a persons physical characteristics. This type of thing just empowers women to use the term for their own personal gain. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/22 09:42 PM |
| 5 | Is SMV really indicative of a happy and fulfilling relationship?Higher SMV allows you to quickly acquire vet and test relationship satisfaction metrics with multiple other individuals. It also allows you to expand the the number of constraints potential partners are measured and evaluated against. It also allows you more freedom to end bad relationships without the psychological damage incurred from wondering if that was the "best you could get" It sounds cold and overly capitalistic way of approaching it. But if you want to see its effectiveness simply look… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/22 07:32 PM |
| 10 | What sort of "intelligence" are women attracted to?Yea I agree, though I'd make a distinction between what they want being "the defacto feeling of emotionally intelligent company " as opposed to its source since people functionally dont care about the source until after something bad happens. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/22 07:10 PM |
| 4 | What sort of "intelligence" are women attracted to?Raw IQ and intelligence is vacuum is bassicaly useless. Only the results matter how can you convert your intelligence into resources and status. Aside from that social intelligence can help when used strategically. Intelligence in general is pretty fixed. You will gain a lot more learning psychology and applying that then taking classes on empathy or something similar. You can say "people are unique and different " all you want it's a numbers game and in aggregate people are the same anyway. Bui… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/22 05:59 PM |
| 35 | What sort of "intelligence" are women attracted to?No social intelligence doesnt imply that neccesarily especially empathy. Their are a lot of cluster a conditions with strong social intelligence. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/22 05:52 PM |
| 2 | Being single mom is not the issue, but personality is.I just dont have any interest in putting up with all the hassle and negatives of childrearing just to date someone. All that hassle for what? I have other options why should I not choose what is best for me ? Because I should step up? For her? please Men need to chose whats best for them. Now if it's my own kid then yea, but that's because I get to raise my own kid I consider that to be a plus and a privilege. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/22 07:49 AM |
| 2 | CMV: Women are more shallow than men by virtue of having a much higher looks threshold and placing more emphasis on things men have no control overOk...most guys have something redeeming aside from goodness. Most guys are doing pretty badly in the dating market until they get settled for in their late 20s and 30s. So they probably needed to redeem a whole lot more to meet the standards men are held at. That being said they arent waiting around they are living their life. Well I hope they are at least | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/22 01:22 AM |
| 0 | CMV: Women are more shallow than men by virtue of having a much higher looks threshold and placing more emphasis on things men have no control overWhy is the good guy in this scenario still single after all of this time? Because a "good guy" isn't good enough for anything more. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/22 12:34 AM |
| 2 | Men struggle with dating and sex. So, what women struggle with?Essentially yea. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/22 12:09 PM |
| 2 | Grief is the only situation a man can express emotion to his romantic partnerThis is going to come across as insensitive I share your frustrations but.. Why not use this as an opportunity to forge stronger social bonds so that you dont have to grieve to the woman you end up with and jeopardize her attraction to you in the first place. It sounds like I'f anything it's just another hazard that should push males into forming stronger social bonds which we should be doing anyway. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/22 08:08 AM |
| 1 | Men struggle with dating and sex. So, what women struggle with?Oh, I know. Visit dead bedrooms and the low libido sub and discover for yourself what sort of pain women experience when they are stuck having sex with a man who disgusts them. Well as many of the women on this sub like to rehearse. "no one has to stay in a relationship "👌 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/22 07:33 AM |
| 18 | Men (and women if applicable) who became successful with the opposite sex after being unsuccessful in their young to adult life, did it make you bitter, cynical, or spiteful towards the opposite sex?I was very socially isolated from elementary up until high school and by that point I had to play catch up at unsustainable rates. This didnt stop in highschool and transitioned into college, I managed to maintain somewhat of a social life but it was always a challenge and a frustration. I had one relationship which I got pressured into, but didn't have mutual feelings for. The girl I was with was a good person but she gave me way to much power and control over her. I didn't like that ,we discus… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/22 07:25 AM |
| 1 | Men (and women if applicable) who became successful with the opposite sex after being unsuccessful in their young to adult life, did it make you bitter, cynical, or spiteful towards the opposite sex?Amid 20s and same situation, I can at this point attract younger but it's really gross to see that I was only desirable to the woman my age. Now that I put in a non stop grind that they haven't been doing. Idk | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/22 06:10 AM |
| 1 | Men struggle with dating and sex. So, what women struggle with?No a decent amount of them do, I see you also ignored "sex positive spaces" as an example. There is also non monogamy which shows similar dynamics. Open relationships which should be covered by nonmono but defacto arent when you ask most people for some reason. And situations where the woman cheats/leaves because the man doesn't perform up to whatever standards she has decided. (And disclaimer obviously women should do whatever they want but still.) You have way more Avenue's open to you to get … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/22 01:19 AM |
| 9 | Men struggle with dating and sex. So, what women struggle with?Sure but the same logic applies to a man going "I only want 6,1 blonde double D..ect ect" Sometimes the standards people set are grossly unrealistic and they cause their own struggle and pain. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/22 01:13 AM |
| 2 | Men struggle with dating and sex. So, what women struggle with?Open and sex positive spaces are niche demographics now? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/22 01:08 AM |
| 3 | Men struggle with dating and sex. So, what women struggle with?Dude are you really out here arguing that a women wont have a variety of options or are you gonna tell me all the options are of low quality. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/22 01:03 AM |
| 4 | Men struggle with dating and sex. So, what women struggle with?You dont have to make him sign a contract, but having serious discussions any of the days/weeks/months between meeting him and smashing will definitely help. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/22 01:00 AM |
| 1 | Do you think porn and sex bots could cause humans to go extinct?Well sure but I'd argue since the average woman has way more options than the average man there is a much lower barrier to entry for that type of behavior and that its more frequently happening that way as a result. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/22 12:59 AM |
| 1 | Men struggle with dating and sex. So, what women struggle with?Yea honestly the comment is 🧢🧢 on this point 100% go to any swingers club, sex party, or very open and sex positive space and you will see who is monopolizing all the pleasure. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/22 12:38 AM |
| 17 | Men struggle with dating and sex. So, what women struggle with?Women have far less access to sexual pleasure than men. Access to sex is not access to sexual pleasure (if you are a woman) You can chose to retain a partner that attends to your needs before his own or make a strong point of that before anything happens. Men usually arent in demand enough to hold similar standards. Despite what a lot of women on this sub say. There isint much pleasure a man is going to get out of fucking a woman who has gone starfish in bed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/22 12:31 AM |
| 4 | Men struggle with dating and sex. So, what women struggle with?Choice paralysis has to be a massive one in love and dating. Imagine having so many options that your equals appear like utter trash thus having success anchored to a guy bringing *a lot * more to the table. That creates an environment where most women are going to feel like they are settling a lot. Periods cramps, more difficulty in physically demanding occupations. More reproductive issues in general. Also keeping up with attention economy in social media seems to have negative effects as well… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/22 12:25 AM |
| 1 | Do you think porn and sex bots could cause humans to go extinct?The comment doesn't necessitate that human relationship dynamics are crappy because of that. it just states that they are crappy in some manner and that the poster believes a maid bot is better then normal human relationship dynamics. Maybe this is because he has observed women in his life treating men like a souless machine who will fullfil all your whims and orders on command while you basically are just there. 🤔 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/22 06:14 PM |
| 1 | Would you accept your ex who dumped you and now want you back in their 30s?Fuck No cringe, I'm hitting my stride by the time I hit the late 20s, it'll be my turn to be selfish. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/22 04:37 PM |
| 1 | does conversation in ppd lead to instability?How do I change it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/22 07:18 AM |
| 1 | does conversation in ppd lead to instability?PM me! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/22 04:52 AM |
| 3 | It's kinda depressing how desperate men areLet's make it 7 😎 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/22 04:47 AM |
| 1 | does conversation in ppd lead to instability?Yea I've noticed that, I'f anything this sub has taught me how different the dating worlds of men and woman are. But its also allowed me to share my experiences and feel validated when I see so many men with the same. I also like to give advice to some of the younger dudes. You probably don't agree with a lot of what I say. But I genuinely believe I am helping them and it's the advice I would of needed to hear when I was 18 fresh faced and about to face the world. The only thing that crosses my … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/22 04:45 AM |
| 3 | What is the appeal of submission in women?Well I'm happy that at least some people aee having anecdotal experience that doesnt align perfectly with this. It gives me some hope, that being said I try to begrungingly embody at least some masculine traits because I dont want to shoot myself in the foot love retention wise. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/22 04:43 AM |
| 2 | What is the appeal of submission in women?An increasing demand for concessions, disrespect and a lack of attraction. Not neccesarily in that order. Demands for the relationship to be opened up. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/22 02:00 AM |
| 2 | does conversation in ppd lead to instability?Yea I get what you mean, overall its therapeutic for me although I do get frustrated with some posters. The person. In question slid into my DM's with really unstable/mocking energy. They kept trying to steer the conversation onto very specific rails as if they were hoping I would say something easy to take out of context. They weren't very good at it though they just ended up creeping me out hard and getting blocked. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/22 01:58 AM |
| 28 | What is the appeal of submission in women?There is like 0 appeal to me but from my understanding women seek out men with traits that help with leadership and being the "active" partner. And that those men do a lot better in dating in general. I also recall reading a phrase from someone on this thread. "It you let a woman lead you in a relationship she will lead you to the end of the relationship ". It makes sense from my own experiences but it's not a super common topic so not enough data. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/22 01:39 AM |
| 2 | does conversation in ppd lead to instability?🤣🤣🤣 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/22 12:20 AM |
| 4 | How do you end up in a position to flirt with women? (seriously asking)Short response: be Attractive. Long response: But then how do you make female friends? Women intentionally avoid men and do not like having male friends. They do not want to be talked to by random men, so there is no real scenario where it’d be okay to talk to a woman. Social circles events and mini communities, building social repoire goes a long way And even if you are friends, it’s scummy for a guy to try to be friends with a woman and then try to get into her pants. What if hes honest upfron… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/22 12:15 AM |
| 1 | Why don’t more men get sex bot?They grow resentful and it’s safe to say many here don’t like women yet. Yet still they chase women. It’s counterproductive. I think they are gambling on a male advantage strategy where they stay on their grindset and use their resulting spike in sexual purchasing power to consolidate on an atypical woman before other men are able too. This varies greatly in terms of feasibility depending on innate traits and how much willingness they have to put in goliath levels of work. Just because most wome… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/22 10:46 PM |
| 0 | Why do most people secretly enjoy watching other relationships fail?You pretty much nailed it on the head. I doubt you will find much contention with guess. There are some special cases. Admittedly guilty pleasure as it is. I do feel good for the guy when he is the dumper because that tends to be rarer so when it does happen I'm more confident that it was because they were incompatible as a couple and not because the woman just wanted to trade up. That and it's nice to see men be able to make that decision on their own terms in spite of how hard finding love wil… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/22 10:27 PM |
| 1 | It’s really not that hard for unattractive guys/guys with typically unattractive traits to get sex from womenHave you considered that maybe you just posses a strong natural charisma? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/22 07:56 PM |
| 2 | Why don’t more men get sex bot?It' really is my man, you gotta remember most guys of our generation grew up in an age with ubiquitous internet everywhere and OLD was w tying by the time we were going quite at the latest so we didn't see things get worse. On top of that most men eat up the meme of men and women being bassicaly identical and loving in the exact same way, it's a blue pill staple. So it's not surprising a lot of guys dont realize the juice will never be worth the squeeze for them individually. Idk unless they lea… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/22 07:54 PM |
| 3 | Why don’t more men get sex bot?Men want love and connection in the same way they might love and connect with a women. So they pursue women because of the illusory belief that they will be loved in that same way in the end. That's men's fault obviously. But he has a point it just needs elaboration | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/22 06:03 PM |
| 10 | CMV: Men that are tender and loving in the bedroom instead of rough and dominant are doomed to be mediocre, forgettable loversWomen" are half the population of the planet. They like all different types of sex. Just like men. The existence of billions of women would not in anyway negate a strong group preference towards one thing or another. Its great that you enjoy those things. I wish more women were like that. Unfortunately what you encounter in practice is an overwhelming majority preference for "rough play". I say this as someone who is frustrated with this state of affairs. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/22 05:55 PM |
| 0 | Is being a woman in a first world country today "life on easy mode"?There is literally affirmative action in favour of men in most places And why do you think that might be. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/22 05:48 PM |
| 2 | Is being a woman in a first world country today "life on easy mode"?It's more so the logistics and and financial barriers are lowered for them considerably. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/22 05:47 PM |
| 2 | It’s a numbers game for men, but women don’t want to be treated like numbers?I want a relationship though. Rather I'd like to maintain the one I have. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/22 05:24 PM |
| 1 | Do you think porn and sex bots could cause humans to go extinct?The existence of something like a synth in fallout 4 implies an extremely sophisticated level of technology. If we can make them and they are sapient what's the point of having humans as an extant species at that point anyway? If we can make synths but they are not conciousness IE proven to be philosophical zombies. Then yes they can be made to be amazing partners and it would usher in the end of heterosexual romantic dynamics. Awesome! But there is so much in the weeds of technology with that. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/22 05:19 PM |
| 4 | Do you think porn and sex bots could cause humans to go extinct?🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔Hmmmmmmm, me, me,me and me eh? What's your point? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/22 05:10 PM |
| 2 | It’s a numbers game for men, but women don’t want to be treated like numbers?Depends on the level of cognition there * could * be ethical issues with sapients + I want to have kids one day. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/22 05:08 PM |
| 13 | It’s a numbers game for men, but women don’t want to be treated like numbers?Do you actually have something of value to say? Btw do you know what the word advice even means? You came around with nothing to offer except for declarations of supposed Aspd and then preceded to mumble on about having heard it all before, so if anyone has nothing of value to say its it's you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/22 09:07 AM |
| 19 | It’s a numbers game for men, but women don’t want to be treated like numbers?That's as sociopathic as it gets Short sighted and unimaginative bull. Here's some advice men dont owe you anything Men find themselves in the posistion where they can either play the numbers game and fail or invest emotionally in women they court and thus take emotional damage when they are rejected. Given the burden of courtship the most optimal strategy is to do exactly what was listed above. "oh no i enjoyed the interaction but male #722 didnt internally think I was special until I showed hi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/22 07:36 AM |
| 5 | Women do not care about confidence , really attractive people just happen to be more confident due to validation from the outside for being attractiveThe first sentence in the OP's post was verbatim "Woman do not care about confidence " | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/22 06:21 AM |
| 2 | Women do not care about confidence , really attractive people just happen to be more confident due to validation from the outside for being attractiveThat isint the only reason someone can portray behaviors analogous to someone with natural confidence. Given what you said we can assume that having traits predictive of success and having confidence in success are a bidirectional implication. However we see that their are both parties that have had little success with women but still confidence in that area. As well men who have had success but still struggle with confidence when it comes to women for other reasons. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/22 06:20 AM |
| 2 | Most TRP ideas are coping mechanisms for men to come to terms with being sexually/romantically obsoleted.Hypergamy to varying degrees, the disposability of men in romantic contexts, branch swinging ect. Is there anything in paticular you were wondering? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/22 04:40 AM |
| 3 | Women do not care about confidence , really attractive people just happen to be more confident due to validation from the outside for being attractiveThat's a good addition, thank you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/22 04:30 AM |
| 3 | Women do not care about confidence , really attractive people just happen to be more confident due to validation from the outside for being attractiveYour getting the chronology wrong, it's not that confidence can make up for physical attractiveness. It's that a lack of confidence is a very large mark against you with women regardless of your attractiveness. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/22 04:21 AM |
| 2 | It’s a numbers game for men, but women don’t want to be treated like numbers?Hmm I wonder why you can empathize more with the employer in these scenarios 🙃 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/22 04:01 AM |
| 93 | Why do people assume that men that don’t get dates are basement dwelling neck beards?Just world fallacy, women need to justify the relative abundance and fruition of dating options they have as being largely an extension of their quality ot character. If you believe that you "earned " your options how offensive would you find the idea that the lions share of your options were purchased with the existence of what layeth below. In the case of males they are either very successful so some of the above applies or they take the female experience and perspective as canon and run with … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/22 03:58 AM |
| 34 | It’s a numbers game for men, but women don’t want to be treated like numbers?The trick is to play the numbers game while still not making the women you talk to feel like numbers 😉. In a world where the burden of approach was more evenly split between the genders this wouldnt occur. But we live on earth. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/22 10:32 PM |
| 1 | The Red Pill is actually quite helpfulI think many men feel the same about women because they feel women hold all the cards in the dating game Are they any cards they don't hold in that respect? The only one I see is the meme of the wall which while a tiny bit true doesn't seem to be that helpful to men as they are also affected by it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/22 10:28 PM |
| 1 | What exactly is a "Low value man"?Average to somewhat above average in all categories, largely unexceptional, a man that is settled for by his equals. They dont always have to around average they can be spectacular in a lot of areas but still like confidence/self esteem, a death blow for the modern male in heterosexual dating. Also a inability to submit to the gender roles and male burden of performance required in the dating market. The man may be unable to carry a conversation. Make the woman he is courting feel special/ enter… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/22 07:53 PM |
| 12 | The Red Pill is actually quite helpfulHonestly the bitterness never fully left, but instead it allowed me to forgive myself embrace the same selfishness that is praised when practiced by women and make peace with putting myself first. I just dont feel like I owe anyone anything anymore , It made me realize if I'm not owed anything that shit goes both ways and honestly it feels pretty good. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/22 05:58 AM |
| 2 | Statistics put aside, based on anecdotal experience, which gender is more likely to commit infidelity all else being equal?I've noticed anecdotally, that the rate is about the same with women cheating somewhat more but never as much as the men who cheat, men seem to have a very lopsided distribution with most not cheating, but the ones who do, do so enough to carry the whole gender 🥴 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/22 09:11 PM |
| 1 | theory: men are shit at dating because they don't have types like women do and try to appeal to to wide of a netIt could also be that she lives in not the best neighborhood, odd culture or only dates in specific contexts. Theres a lot of things that can cause to you to ONLY get men like that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/22 07:09 PM |
| 4 | If women are hypergamous, what really is the point of trying to have a relationship with one?I mean if she’s inevitably going to find and leave for some higher value man, why should I try with them? Why should I actually even treat them like people? Sometimes knowing a thing is finite forces you to live in the moment and be grateful you will have it. If we’re just stepping stones to them, why not just treat them like holes? That's the whole concept rp of spinning plates is it not? And if the only option is to treat them in that way, what’s the point? I want to live and cherish a woman. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/22 07:08 PM |
| 11 | If women are hypergamous, what really is the point of trying to have a relationship with one?Lmao this thread | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/22 06:57 PM |
| 4 | theory: men are shit at dating because they don't have types like women do and try to appeal to to wide of a netThen tell me... why have 90% of men I've dated longer than a month criticized my body, face, career, hobbies and/or personality? With numbers like that from men of all groups? maybe your personality is worthy of criticism. Unless you only accept the type of guy who will do this but I highly doubt that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/22 04:41 AM |
| 24 | Dating women as a woman has made me more sympathetic to the dating woes of men.Why would women want it to be easy to date them when men already will go out with any woman and pretend to like her for sex? Because the difficulty in dating women is why men go will go out with any women and pretend to like them for sex. Woman collectively priced themselves out of anything else. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/22 11:41 PM |
| 1 | Question for PPD. Do you believe dating is hard as men are making it out to be? Primarily the ones on this sub? Why or why not?Its likely much worse, participation in purple pill dialogue implicitly implies as a Male you were probably either blue pilled (due to just being good enough and therefore investing in "just world " interpretations of intersexual dynamics. Or redpilled and thus "at the edge" of being "successful " as much as a Male can be. The majority of men are below the threshold and just take what they can get if they can get so I imagine its probably considerably worse out there but we just cant see it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/22 07:49 PM |
| 1 | Men and women, have you ever been the "Chad/Stacy" who she/he was cheating with? What are your feelings on it now?The women in question has already decided to be unfaithful, regardless of if she acts on it or not she has already made a commitment to do so at first opportunity. So the man is in the same position regardless of what I chose to do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/22 07:45 PM |
| 2 | Men and women, have you ever been the "Chad/Stacy" who she/he was cheating with? What are your feelings on it now?Yes unknowingly, it hurt at the time , now I dont care and would do it again if I was single. If a woman is willing to cheat with you they are willing to cheat and will do it regardless. I dont see the intention to and the act as being functionally different as far as the unlucky guy us concerned, either way he is with an unfaithful wife. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/22 06:54 AM |
| – | Do you agree with the right to have financial abortions ?Financial abortion is not a right. It is a way for men to try to evade responsibility for their children. Not yet, there are already countries in Europe who have it as a right. Only a matter of time. Child support is a risk of sex for men. Because the woman ultimately determines if the child is born. Men's lives wouldn't be ruined. They would just lose money. Losing substantial amounts of money is often very life ruining I assure you. Child support is the consequence of men's sexual choices. No … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/22 05:27 AM |
| – | Do you agree with the right to have financial abortions ?Influencing a woman to have an abortion is wrong because of the fetal right to life, and unwanted abortion would be traumatic for women. A mans human and legal rights should not be subservient to the potential or guarantee of trauma that results from a womans choices in response to that mans rights. You knew the risk of having sex, if abortions are unwanted traumatizing abortions are traumatizing then it's all the better that men have the right to financially opt out because it guarantees you ca… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/22 04:58 AM |
| 3 | the real reason why modern dating/marriage is crapThey can settle for loneliness. They don't want the orbiters. Barely studies have shown women do much better single than males. Usually a womans tolerance of orbiters rests on the balance of how pushy he is vs what resources can be extracted. Women don't enjoy casual sex as much as men do. It's pointless hedonism for women. That is because they have it in hyper abundance They still enjoy it, they just dont pedestalize it because its given to them for existing. Women don't enjoy casual sex as muc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/22 04:15 AM |
| 3 | the real reason why modern dating/marriage is crapoh, so you're one of those feminist who believe women can do it all. Right... I'm not a feminist, I think that men and women are different fundamentally on a biological level and that such differences echo culturally more so than we want to admit. I have just come to understand that in a completely free market with no taboos or social structures suppressing hypergamy. Men are quite quickly obsoleted and for the most part doomed to be the unappreciated unloved worker bees of society. There is not… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/22 04:06 AM |
| 2 | the real reason why modern dating/marriage is crapAs they slip into their 30s there is a realization that her biological clock is ticking and she must settle with some schmuck that she doesn't desire. This is the entire issue assumption with this post. They dont have to settle for an average or above average man despite the quality of their character. They can continue to be single and benefit from the bounty of the sexual market enjoy one night stands. Temporary beta buxxing orbiters, a greater sense of community , more support through social … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/22 07:01 PM |
| 1 | The "traditional" male roles in dating are preferable to the alternativeTrue but if you follow conventional rules expect conventional results. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/22 05:46 PM |
| 1 | The "traditional" male roles in dating are preferable to the alternativeWaiting for OP to respond to this. Every person that’s been to Europe agrees with you on your last point; American women are the worst. Currently living in north America and yet still I ended up pairing with a wonderful woman from central Europe. I cant express how sorry I feel for american men 🤣 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/22 07:52 AM |
| 1 | The "traditional" male roles in dating are preferable to the alternativeA woman who approaches a man is not always well seen too. It screams desperation and masculinity to most. Men might be playing on hard mode, but they have the game controller. That's what I'm talking about. I keep seeing women say this and only women saying this. Men cherish women who make the first move. Why I invest a 10th of the energy into 100th women I asked out that I would put into a woman who asks me out? Shes already shown initiative, desire a egalitarian disregard for gendered dating r… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/22 03:05 AM |
| 1 | Women are attractive by default. But they can't do much to improve their given attractiveness, beyond makeup/surgery/clothes. Most men are by default unattractive. But on the flipside, through gargantuan efforts, they can build up their attractiveness through decades of effort, if they don't fail.There are tons of things women can do to improve their attractiveness. Many but not all of the things men do. Try to be more social and approachable. Working on people skills. Learning empathy, learning to be comfortable with themselves. Having an interesting lifestyle. Ect ect. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/22 01:55 AM |
| 1 | Women are attractive by default. But they can't do much to improve their given attractiveness, beyond makeup/surgery/clothes. Most men are by default unattractive. But on the flipside, through gargantuan efforts, they can build up their attractiveness through decades of effort, if they don't fail.Because they are still under the patriarchal delusion that they need to do any of that bullshit to be attractive and desirable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/22 01:51 AM |
| 3 | The "traditional" male roles in dating are preferable to the alternativeSo if I want to eat, I’d rather apply for jobs than wait for some miracle offer. If I want to date… Now imagine not having to wait! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/22 01:50 AM |
| 0 | The "traditional" male roles in dating are preferable to the alternativeBut those who are shouldn't take for granted the privilege it is to choose who you pursue and how you pursue them. Being the asker means you never have to shoot your shot with a girl you don't find attractive At the cost of constantly having to shoot however. If you're dating down or settling, that's because you chose to. I figure that should be a very attractive advantage if you the type who wants to be the alpha controller of his own destiny. Most people just want someone that adds value to th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/22 01:50 AM |
| 3 | The "traditional" male roles in dating are preferable to the alternativeHaving the burden of having to initiate, perform and be rejected is awful. Why would I endure any of that when I could just wait for people to approach me and deign to pick from there? Do you also enjoy applying for jobs? I highly doubt it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/22 01:17 AM |
| 14 | The "traditional" male roles in dating are preferable to the alternativeEven if you have to wait for someone whose company you won’t hate to ask you? Is that seriously that much of a downside for you?? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/22 04:52 PM |
| 28 | Why does sex feel like such a conquest for men?They have to earn it. Men have sex despite being male not because of it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/22 04:53 AM |
| 2 | anyone here that generalizes a gender is wrongThis provides another layer of security but I dont think your behavior is as uncommon as you think it is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/22 05:58 PM |
| 1 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadI get women and unfortunately men messaging me first on boomerbook. Where does this put me? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/22 05:54 PM |
| 2 | anyone here that generalizes a gender is wrongI'm okay with generalizations, but what irks me is when people are presented with someone who is an exception to the rule and just accuse them of lying. Its because there is a misalignment between people who exhibit exceptional behavior and people who claim too. Notice I didnt specify a gender about this part. In terms of dating, what I don't get is when someone has a shitty opinion of a majority of one gender...but they still actively pursue that majority rather than cutting them out and focusi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/22 05:52 PM |
| 1 | Have you had any ideological shifts with respect to sex and gender discourse and issues? Share your experiences too if you haveI'm having some struggle understanding, are you saying that I'f we invest more in males on a societal level they will be more attractive on average? Or something else? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/22 05:49 PM |
| 2 | Have you had any ideological shifts with respect to sex and gender discourse and issues? Share your experiences too if you haveI have to note that you would rile up people suppose you said for instance: “hate to be blunt blunt but if most women wanted to not be oppressed by the patriarchy/raped more probably in some idealized sense, they should not of been born female then” ..Just sayin. Cool shii tho. That is a very good point to address how I have been speaking. I was trying to communicate in a matter of fact type of way. To really hone in the wisdom to the unfortunately male viewers. I do think it is possible to redu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/22 05:43 PM |
| 1 | Women CONSTANTLY reiterate the axiom that “the standards for men are at an all time low” and that “the bar is on the floor. ” This is not only total bullshit, but an enormous slap in the face to the vast majority of males who are good people, many of whom are attractive and successful.True although we all "settle" in some capacity. It's the degree that counts. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/22 05:37 PM |
| 4 | Have you had any ideological shifts with respect to sex and gender discourse and issues? Share your experiences too if you haveI've realized that supporting the male "side" in inter sexual dynamics is fruitless. Men will not change. Men will not collectively raise their standards. Most of them will take whatever they can get no matter how bad the deal gets. Its a fruitless endeavour. monogamy will die because the stabilizing effects it brought are largely outmoded by the way modern economies are structured. I think most women monogamously settle for a men that brings equal to the table because that was the patriarchal/k… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/22 05:29 PM |
| 5 | Women CONSTANTLY reiterate the axiom that “the standards for men are at an all time low” and that “the bar is on the floor. ” This is not only total bullshit, but an enormous slap in the face to the vast majority of males who are good people, many of whom are attractive and successful.The standards are low. For a lot of women you no longer have to be able to support a family solely on your income, you can half ass your grooming as long as you take care of your hygiene. More women are getting with fat, lazy slobs with porn addictions and who play video games all day The women that are getting with these type of men are usually in an even worse condition then said men. Hence why they chose those men. Theres a reason why polyamory and single by choice is becoming more popular am… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/22 03:09 PM |
| 2 | Men are forced to approach in abundance if they want any shot at getting laid or an LTR, yet they are shamed for it by women who want to feel special creating a very frustrating situation for men.Not saying it does. I think it will eventually get to that point. But it isint like that now | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/22 10:37 PM |
| 20 | Men are forced to approach in abundance if they want any shot at getting laid or an LTR, yet they are shamed for it by women who want to feel special creating a very frustrating situation for men.I remember seeing a study that showed hetero female sexually encounters had not changed much in frequency while male ones had taken a drop on average. Ergo more women are fucking /vying for the long term commitment of a subset of men that is decreasing in size. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/22 07:44 PM |
| 4 | Are most modern women's standards for men too high? Why or why not?I agree with you wholeheartedly, its just see it becoming less and less sustainable as we move further in time. With the internet and OLD barriers yo entry have atomized. It seems like this would naturally move us closer to a dating "superstar" economy. I expect we will get to a point where due to a few key factors. Most women will see being alone as a endlessly better alternative than being with even an above average male. And polygamy will quickly surge in popularity in tandem with that. It's … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/22 07:38 PM |
| 6 | Are most modern women's standards for men too high? Why or why not?Monogamy is a recent invention which serves primarily to add stability to civilizations that practice a "sedentary" life style. Ie: not constantly migrating. I'f you look at who has been contributing their genetic material. It is only a subset of men but nearly ALL women. Humans are probably more naturally polygamous (not polyamorous in the modern understanding) than anything. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/22 07:10 PM |
| 2 | Do women you’re not attracted to you mean anything to you at all? Do you look up to or admire any women?🥴🥳 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/22 02:08 AM |
| 2 | Men would you trade getting more attention for increase risk of being sodomized, stalked, harassed and being sex trafficked for more attention and special treatment from women?My experiences with sex and dating have been over all negative but things have recently got better with my frequent trips to the gym. I have been sexually assaulted by men before. I was drugged/ raped once by a woman before my first year of college. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/22 02:08 AM |
| 1 | Men would you trade getting more attention for increase risk of being sodomized, stalked, harassed and being sex trafficked for more attention and special treatment from women?Yes definitely. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/22 07:24 PM |
| 2 | Do women you’re not attracted to you mean anything to you at all? Do you look up to or admire any women?Yes almost all of my friends are women and the ones that arent are usually FTM's. I definitely admire a good portion of my friends. Some have issues. What is upsetting is that despite being good friends. When they open up to me about their relationship stuff. Their is like heavy hypergamy vibes in some stuff they say even if you try to take it charitably. I've noticed patterns and changes as they get older. And how insanely gynocentric women and men are. Its one of the things that pushed me to s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/22 06:09 PM |
| 2 | how confident are you with your body? does it affect your sex life?Deny sex no. But I'm very insecure about my body morphology. Despite body building, I have a very obviously pear shaped body my hips are way bigger than any males hips have reason being. I have very long eye lashes. It takes forever to gross facial hair and worst of all most the fat I have goes to my hips. My body plan is all fucked up and its taken 2 years of selective targeted training to make things "even out more" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/22 07:48 AM |
| 3 | What are the chances the men in your lives are hiding their “true selves”?Would you say the same about a woman hiding her high n-count? Yes, and this is coming from someone who does have worries about its effect on relationship stability. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/22 07:43 AM |
| 0 | What are the chances the men in your lives are hiding their “true selves”?You arent "building a relationship on a lie" by omitting information that quite frankly is none of her business, make no mistake the other replier is giving you advice in solidarity with other women, advice that will definitely harm YOU. Imagine if I were to tell you banging/dating a women made you entitled to know details about her past. Critically examine if doing things in solidarity with women in general and doing things that will preserve your relationship are aligned perfectly. You will fi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/22 05:45 AM |
| 2 | I keep seeing we have enormously high standards but like what exactly are they? And why does the dating world not reflect said absurdly Hugh standards most women have?Is there literature on this Your asking for literature on the fact that it's possible to observe differences in groups of people??? I must be missing something Yes I would. I think it’s ridiculous when people on here say men only want sex. Like it’s very much not true. Most people want relationships. I don’t know why you think I’d individualize women while solely generalizing men, it would be obviously hypocritical behavior my dude Because that by and large seems to be how most people see accept… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/22 12:46 AM |
| 2 | I keep seeing we have enormously high standards but like what exactly are they? And why does the dating world not reflect said absurdly Hugh standards most women have?The fact that people are not identical homunculi, Does not take away from the fact that are observable patterns amongst people who share certain traits. I swear this "people are different " line PNLY comes up when women are criticized as a group. You wouldn't dare try to say something like that if the collective criticized behaviors men exhibit were brought up | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/22 12:40 AM |
| 1 | I keep seeing we have enormously high standards but like what exactly are they? And why does the dating world not reflect said absurdly Hugh standards most women have?Such as? Read the last part of the comment On standards? Standards yes but also general perception of mens innate romantic value vs that of womens | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/22 12:31 AM |
| 3 | I keep seeing we have enormously high standards but like what exactly are they? And why does the dating world not reflect said absurdly Hugh standards most women have?collective male experience, The same way we know that women face sexual harrasment. We know men face extremely unrealistic standards from women. Well we are only as a society willing to listen to women so eh? Also a lot of studies on how women rate and perceive men when it comes to dating line up with FDS sentiments though marginally less explicitly extreme. I feel like being in this sub as much as you have you already have been linked similar studies so I dont really see a point here but I migh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/22 11:24 PM |
| 3 | I keep seeing we have enormously high standards but like what exactly are they? And why does the dating world not reflect said absurdly Hugh standards most women have?No but It represents something suprisingly close to that | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/22 09:26 PM |
| 3 | I keep seeing we have enormously high standards but like what exactly are they? And why does the dating world not reflect said absurdly Hugh standards most women have?Most of the us population does not use reddit, But FDS is just one symptom of the larger perceptual dynamic between men and women | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/22 08:32 PM |
| 1 | You're just not compatible with each otherLmao this is a certified reddit classic . | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/22 04:55 PM |
| 1 | Women love "high value men", but it's not actually that hard to be oneWell to be fair it's a common roadblock between genders in these conversations in the greater cultural Zeitgeist so forgive me for assuming that. Its just really frustrating to hear (well men would be doing *just *as good as women if they did X or Y) like you have to really willfully ignore biology to say something THAT hyperbolic. But I experience woman saying things in a similar though not as revealing way. The closest equivalent to woman I could think of would be "why yes Sarah you could also… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/22 07:47 PM |
| 3 | You're just not compatible with each otherby each gender is the reaction from the target gender of: just suck it up and accept or you're a misogynist/hypergamist/literally Hitler. Gonna be real with you cheif I think most men/women Are In denial about how misogynistic or hypergamous they are respectively. That or they dont care | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/22 04:55 PM |
| 5 | Women need to step up in the modern dating worldAdapt a similar mentality. Become attractive enough that you can have options. Just because women have these at birth doesn't mean you cant earn some of that over time. and then be selfish and put yourself first when deciding if you NEED a partner or you extract the same value from your social circles and hookups. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/22 08:32 AM |
| 1 | Are men and women even truly compatible?Sexuality can be fluid. But I agree I think as times goes you will see less intergender interactions outside of work environments. Not more. Most of my friends are women but it seems like I'm in a very small minority of men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/22 06:38 AM |
| 37 | Women need to step up in the modern dating worldWhy would they listen to this when they could just continue benefiting from the status quo. Guy:" you should approach more" Girl:"why? Men are already approaching me" The reality is that having to approach more is a worse posistion to be in, so women are never going to do it because men are willing too. Barring an extremely attractive dude. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/22 06:30 PM |
| 7 | Does Europe have a better sexual culture?Exactly! I think there are some uniquely selfish behaviors that both sexes exhibit and these things are magnified strongly by things like these present in american culture. My partner is Europian too and she notices and points out that north American men tend to be shittier In a lot of ways too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/22 12:59 AM |
| 18 | Does Europe have a better sexual culture?I only have my anecdotal experience here but being an american who has lived in canada and Germany. I have to say I had a lot of success in Germany and the women there were more pleasant. More likely to treat you as an equal and not just another expendable scrote. It should be notes that there is going to be a LOT more variation in cultural perspectives amongst European countries than between north american states/regions/provinces. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/22 12:51 AM |
| 1 | Does the whole "Ask the fisherman not the fish" thing limit useful discussion on this sub?You should look for people who used to be in a situation that was as similar to yours as possible . And then they managed to improve their situation greatly. Eliminate as many variables as possible | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/22 10:48 PM |
| 1 | Women love "high value men", but it's not actually that hard to be oneSo all women want men to do all the childcare and housework in addition to their jobs? Ok I've already clarified this isint the case. And everyone is lying, all the studies showing women do far more childcare and chores even with full time jobs, they’re all based on lies and subterfuge as well? Also no. People are reacting to their environment and taking the most charitable interpretation of their actions that they can realistically do and still have options. I'm not contesting that woman dont d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/22 10:44 PM |
| 2 | Women love "high value men", but it's not actually that hard to be oneBut he doesn’t need to perform better because it was the woman lying remember? Ahh but he does regardless of whether or not she is accurate In her assessments of him. So only men who do all the childcare and chores are acceptable to women? No but only men who give more than they take are acceptable to most women at least in the long term. Which makes sense the man wants the relationship more on average, isn't it only natural he do more work than her to maintain things? Can you point to anything … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/22 10:41 PM |
| 2 | Women love "high value men", but it's not actually that hard to be oneI mean honestly even my own experiences line up with this. I had to do most almost all the emotional work and got mostly abuse in return. You think now that I've found a woman who treats me with respect that I'm not gonna meet her more then half the way on things? Hell nah!😅 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/22 10:38 PM |
| 1 | Women love "high value men", but it's not actually that hard to be oneOk so let's take two people bob and Alice they both put in 50% into the relationship but alice due to her greater romantic agency is accustomed to or at least expects more then that subconsciously. She interprets his input as below 50% and protests. Things dont work out and they split. Is bob more likely to be dropped by her or the next women if he is willing to put in 60% of the work? That's my point regardless of if her perception is true or not he has less options than her more at stake and t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/22 10:36 PM |
| 2 | Women love "high value men", but it's not actually that hard to be oneHow is a “feedback loop” continuing after divorce? What incentive does the man have to lie? How would he even do it? By claiming he doesn’t change diapers when he does? Who does that ever?? The man can either accept he needs to perform better and correct his "faults" or suffer the same fate with the next women he is with. Woman have more options therefore they can demand their partner give more than they do in return. Where they changing the diapers equally as often? Maybe that wasn't good enoug… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/22 10:32 PM |
| 2 | Women love "high value men", but it's not actually that hard to be oneWhat does “making attention cheap” even mean? Are you talking about married women with kids and full time jobs? What cheap attention do they give or get? Male attention validation and sexuality is abundant and therefore on average very low in value. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/22 10:28 PM |
| 1 | Women love "high value men", but it's not actually that hard to be oneThis doesn’t make sense. If the man has less options why does he fuck up by consistently doing no chores or childcare? Doesn’t he have “more to lose”? I don’t understand the incentive for the man to lie about not doing his share of the work if he did it, especially after a divorce. My arguement is that he is doing chores and childcare in most cases but if their is a small discrepancy between how much he is doing and how much she wants done. He will more than likely agree that this is the case re… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/22 10:27 PM |
| 3 | Women love "high value men", but it's not actually that hard to be oneNo but you’re saying they’re united and the same No I'm not I'm saying there is a feedback loop. Why would the man agree to that story after the divorce if it wasn’t true? Because men have a greater burden of performance to be in relationships. Men internalize from a very young age they have to perform and compete to be considered good relationship material. Of course their going to be less critical and more accepting of the way their wife sees problems in relationships. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/22 10:20 PM |
| 1 | Women love "high value men", but it's not actually that hard to be oneNo they just naturally have different ways of processing issues in a relationship. If you are the one with less options your going to be a hell of a lot more concerned with your fuck ups. And if your conclusions are taking blame away from your partner why wouldn't they be in agreement. Women have little incentive to introspect on how they treat men because men make their attention extremely cheap where as the reverse is true for men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/22 10:17 PM |
| 3 | Women love "high value men", but it's not actually that hard to be oneDo you realize how ridiculous that sounds? It sounds ridiculous because it's a pointless strawman. Conspiracies require people to conspire not for men and women to naturally perceive their interactions and behavior in a relationship differently. Men and women arent the same and that's ok. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/22 10:15 PM |
| 1 | Women love "high value men", but it's not actually that hard to be oneOk but how do synthesize that with the fact that most women in the age bracket dont really want men anymore or are already in some sort of relationship. I mean the late 20s early 30s it appears as I'f by that point mens standards drop precipitously. Or maybe you mean they cant consolidate on the top % of men anymore. Thanks for replying | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/22 10:13 PM |
| 2 | Women love "high value men", but it's not actually that hard to be oneAgain, otherwise the human race would be extinct. I really wouldnt go that far 😅 the human race continuing on doesnt necessitate that most men be successful in dating. That being said most men into RP are just at the "edge" so to speak most of the guys in my experience who were born with too much stacked against them tend to be black pill anyway and thus wont even find they way here 🤣 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/22 10:10 PM |
| 1 | Women love "high value men", but it's not actually that hard to be oneDo you think the researcher deliberately deleted all the men saying the women were lying? No that's preposterous, I do think that women are more likely to exaggerate how bad their partners were after a breakup. And men to blame themselves more for things that occurred. Which makes sense men have more to lose in a break up in general | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/22 10:06 PM |
| 3 | Women love "high value men", but it's not actually that hard to be oneSo women are liars? I dont think that's accurate because these women genuinely believe what they are saying. I think women tend to naturally demonize Ex's after a breakup as a coping mechanism. Where as men blame themselves endlessly even when they may not of been in the wrong. their are some studies that even show men tend to look at partners with rose tinted glasses . | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/22 10:04 PM |
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