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As a human being I think the denial of reality is the creation of your own. That makes no sense. The concept of denial (i.e. of reality) existed long before even I did. We aren't the us government, we're individuals with volatile feelings and emotions. Never claimed you are the government. Not all people have volatile feelings and emotions; that definitely should not generally be the case with men. People don't need a cozy 6x9 cell of rules to follow. Yes they do. A lack of clarity in the rules …
/r/MGTOW230/08/19 10:27 PM
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Makes sense to me, too... BUT... rules also have to be clear and specific enough to make sense to others, too. As a vegan feminist I would suggest that denying the expression of one's "negativity" and therefore suppressing one's dark (or, as Jung would say, "shadow") side is quite insane because it denies reality. A shit wall is one thing, a bunch of positive and productive responses (like the sex and the city example in my post) to acknowledge and counteract that negativity is another.
/r/MGTOW230/08/19 07:29 PM
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Dude, put the crack-pipe down and stop getting hysterical. You and your tantrums!
/r/MGTOW208/08/19 11:53 PM
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Uh... So why is this being portrayed as a victory? Well, we know how social justice warriors think. Gee, wonder what angle you've got on this?
/r/MGTOW208/08/19 11:52 PM
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Perception is not reality.
/r/MGTOW208/08/19 11:48 PM
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LOL - you're doing a great job supporting the OP's cause!
/r/MGTOW208/08/19 11:11 PM
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Uh, don't people usually think about things based on evidence?
/r/MGTOW208/08/19 11:10 PM
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Based on what evidence?
/r/MGTOW208/08/19 10:58 PM
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You can be my 'lil cuck
/r/MGTOW208/08/19 10:58 PM
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Can't I? Why not?
/r/MGTOW208/08/19 10:57 PM
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Fuck you, cuck
/r/MGTOW208/08/19 09:47 PM
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her pimp boyfriend Fuck him.
/r/MGTOW208/08/19 09:06 PM
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No.
/r/MGTOW208/08/19 06:53 PM
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No, that's not really what I meant. Ever heard the proverb "birds of a feather flock together"? Hypothetically, if someone was looking for a long-term, trusting relationship with a loyal woman, I don't think the types that would cheat on their boyfriends or let you finger them in public are likely suitable candidates. Know what I mean?
/r/MGTOW207/08/19 07:32 PM
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You are a bit crazy but what you say makes sense... at least if able to see the world through your eyes. To be blunt, I think you are looking in the wrong direction: outwards rather than inwards. I can be a lot more specific and direct if you want, but I don't think you'll like it.
/r/MGTOW207/08/19 01:16 PM
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If you do a bit of fact-checking on this articles they reveal quite a lot. For example, the Japan article heavily relies on quotes from Japanese feminists with majors in "Gender Studies". Do you really trust them? LOL at the apparent "freedom" to work in shitty jobs that Japanese men don't want. We've already seen a steady stream of women regretting this lie. And LOL at: “I am afraid that I will be expected to act in the mother role that is demanded by Japanese society, rather than being myself.…
/r/MGTOW207/08/19 09:34 AM
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The more you try to avoid attracting attention from people the more you will attract them. In fact, this will even invite unwanted attention, largely because they can see you are trying to avoid them (and are unlikely to do anything about it since obviously you do not want a confrontation). The simple answer is to shut that shit down. You don't have to be rude or aggressive about it. A simple response like "I don't really want to talk about it", or "I can take care of my own love life, thanks" i…
/r/MGTOW203/08/19 11:48 AM
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They do but most can't by virtue of being controlled by their emotions.
/r/MGTOW203/08/19 09:13 AM
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How many men's dicks did you check, exactly? LOL
/r/MGTOW203/08/19 09:12 AM
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Not bad. Stay safe.
/r/MGTOW202/08/19 10:44 PM
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So you're basically telling me you're a sad person? How long have you been feeling like this?
/r/MGTOW202/08/19 10:29 PM
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How do you know it wasn't scripted? That it wasn't an just an act? A fake? If not, why would they film themselves?
/r/MGTOW202/08/19 10:26 PM
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If I were a deceptive person, that answer would make me very happy. Anyway, my handle is satirical.
/r/MGTOW202/08/19 10:23 PM
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If they can't then how come I just did? I even linked to a video titled "So you're saying" about this deception. You just fell for it. Let people play their games, but with each other, not with with you.
/r/MGTOW202/08/19 10:11 PM
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So you're saying you don't care if people deceive and manipulate you?
/r/MGTOW202/08/19 09:36 PM
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Generally, yes. However, it is better to know exactly what your gut is telling you (e.g. not just something's "wrong", but what that actually is).
/r/MGTOW202/08/19 08:34 PM
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The devil is in the details, but only at first. After getting seeing how it works, you'll intuitively (i.e. automatically) know it when you see it. Unfortunately this sort of thing is everywhere at all times, including personal and work life. TV recordings are just helpful to explain it.
/r/MGTOW202/08/19 08:32 PM
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That is true except most people are brainwashed to believe otherwise. Society works on obedience, right?
/r/MGTOW202/08/19 06:46 PM
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My angle is I am "telling it like it is". Whether anyone thinks it's good or bad, justified or unjustified, or whatever doesn't matter. It is what it is.
/r/MGTOW202/08/19 05:39 PM
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More to the point, it is a bad idea for men to think and be emotionally driven like women.
/r/MGTOW202/08/19 03:36 PM
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started out as young girls being fed hopes and dreams (lies) by feminists who themselves knew enough to not touch that career life with a ten foot pole. Instead they marched and preached for other women to represent them. We are all being fed hopes and dreams (lies) by people that want to take advantage of us for their own personal gain. How many presidents or 'leaders' do you know - male or female - that send their own kids into wars they support?
/r/MGTOW202/08/19 03:35 PM
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It's statistically proven - many times - that women now are less happy and more prone to depression and alcoholism than women 30-40 years ago. Not confirmation bias, my friend. Glad not to be "truly mgtow" since I care very much about my fellow man.
/r/MGTOW202/08/19 02:32 PM
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The way to know if you have had a good life is if you (at least overall) feel fulfilled, content, and happy. Unfortunately, reality can never match up to fantasy and comparing them makes no sense: a housewife admiring a career woman, for example, is actually only admiring her own imagination or fantasy about what it must be like. I doubt such fantasies involve things like stress, long hours, loneliness, etc. Not all women want "chads" in the same way not all men want "thots". So-called betas - i…
/r/MGTOW202/08/19 02:25 PM
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There are loads of confessions by women that they regret picking careers over relationships and children. There has even been a study on the paradox of declining female happiness.
/r/MGTOW202/08/19 12:26 PM
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Yes, women pee from their vaginas.
/r/MGTOW201/08/19 06:44 AM
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Easy: Face reality. If you watch porn you are watching pure fantasy. There are tons of videos on youtube where pornstars talk about vomit, poop, shitty dicks, blood, rashes, farts, poor hygiene, smelly private parts, etc. involved. Vaginas are lubricated with mucus, the same kind snot is made out of. Urine comes from them, too. And they get yeast infections (one feminist tried to bake bread using her yeast) If you have a thing for asses, remember the smelliest, most foul, paint-peeling, eye-wate…
/r/MGTOW231/07/19 10:48 PM
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Hating women for their dual mating strategy is like hating a bear for shitting in the woods or hating a rat for being in your basement. Do something about it and move on. Agreed. Problem is, you can't tell people that since such conversations are banned here!
/r/MGTOW231/07/19 04:38 PM
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I was banned too. I thought their little stratagem to apparently "teach me a lesson" in the process was quite cute. MGTOW1 seems to be more about grandstanding and forming an echo chamber, whereas I was proposing helping angry men out by discussing and working through their problems.
/r/MGTOW231/07/19 03:09 PM
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The rules are not well defined and don't really matter since you will arbitrarily make exceptions when you feel like it anyway. Running a MGTOW sub like a typical SJW or feminist one will likely just cause unnecessary stress and problems, especially for you.
/r/MGTOW231/07/19 02:35 PM
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I'll play "devil's advocate". What's wrong with people posting things with a hatred of women? How are such people to see the potential error of their ways since there can be no discussion and no ability for their arguments to be challenged? A lot of men have gone MGTOW precisely because they have been horribly fucked over by women (as have I) and so are going to be angry about it (as have I). How are they to resolve that on their own? Anyway, banning discussions seems to have just made things wo…
/r/MGTOW231/07/19 01:01 PM
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There rules are poorly written and are unclear. Reading it as face value, apparently No women-hating, hate, and negativity in general; but Nazism, racism, and cartoons are OK, along with effort and quality? That's what it says. How do you define terms like "women-hating", "hate", and "negativity", exactly? Do all posts have to be happy or they'll get deleted? How do you measure or judge "effort" and "quality"? Is this list of yours an example? I'm sure you have good intentions but the net result…
/r/MGTOW231/07/19 08:12 AM
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There are plenty of people rotting away alone in old folks homes despite having children and grandchildren.
/r/MGTOW230/07/19 10:28 AM
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I think men in general are not supposed to be emotionally-driven. That doesn't mean not feeling emotions at all, which is psychopathic (they have cognitive empathy but not emotional empathy). You rightly pointed out that autistic people have problems with their emotions because they are unable to process them; I think emotionally-driven men are also unable to properly process emotions, just for different reasons. Emotionally-driven men also lack (cognitive) empathy, just like autistic people as …
/r/MGTOW229/07/19 05:37 PM
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I see the truth of this. More attention on boobs and butts is less attention on what kinds of people are attached to them.
/r/MGTOW228/07/19 09:01 PM
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For example, the statement, "That guy is an asshole" is a judgement. But, rephrased as "that person's values don't align with mine" is an assessment that doesn't assign goodness or badness, superiority / inferiority and so forth. Yes! But you can be more direct, if it suits you. For example, it is just as valid to say something like "I really do not like that guy" or "I don't like him because of 'X'".
/r/MGTOW228/07/19 08:38 AM
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He has a very good (Youtube Channel)[https://www.youtube.com/user/NoahElkrief] as well.
/r/MGTOW228/07/19 08:33 AM
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If someone told you that they were hit in the face with a bat, do they mean sports equipment (e.g. baseball bat), the flying mammal, or someone's hand? One word, several different means. Same thing with judgement, which is why I was careful to define it as 'to pass judgement on.' A court making a judgment about a case based on the evidence is a different kettle of fish than me being judgemental about someone based on my feels. "This job is bad for me, I need a change.": This could be more specif…
/r/MGTOW228/07/19 08:32 AM
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I know exactly where you are coming from. And yes, it is necessary to face and accept reality to be able to do anything about it. If engineers, for example, got upset and refused to face the physical reality of gravity, then they wouldn't have been able to build things like aeroplanes. You're also absolutely right about not suppressing emotions; I did that for over 20 years and it just made things worse. Will do a separate post about how to very effectively deal with this problem (i.e. the "CORE…
/r/MGTOW228/07/19 08:08 AM
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Do you know what she was thinking, her intentions, state of mind, or background? All we know is that she was getting it on with other men, which in itself is a bit of a red flag. Since you have no other information to infer anything about her thoughts or intentions, and since there are endless other possibilities why that happened, it is worth asking yourself why you assumed it must be because you're 'not good enough'. You have literally nothing to reach that conclusion, and from what little inf…
/r/MGTOW224/07/19 01:37 PM
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On what basis can someone else be better than you as a human being?
/r/MGTOW223/07/19 09:19 PM
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why people get jealous of those who are better than them? Do you mean better than you generally (as in as human beings), or better at doing specific things (as in better at driving, debating, etc.)?
/r/MGTOW223/07/19 09:08 PM
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Let's take a look at the legislation. What was discussed was Part 1, Section 3 of the Sexual Offenses (Scotland) Act 2009, which defines sexual assault. It also has separate sections for rape and "sexual assault by penetration" as well, so does differentiate "penetration that would not meet the definition of rape" as you rightly said it should. What is interesting is that under Part 1, Section 1 of the Act it is assumed that only people with penises (i.e. men and trans-gendered males with constr…
/r/MGTOW223/07/19 07:55 PM
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So what you are technically also saying, by your logic of interpreting this legal quote, is that I need to ask consent for every millimeter of movement during sexual activity - And anything that didn't achieve consent could be considered an assault. This is a strawman logical fallacy. Her argument was not this, but that under Scottish law, ejaculating onto someone's face without their consent is illegal. She's right: 'ejaculation of semen or emission of urine/saliva onto a person for sexual purp…
/r/MGTOW223/07/19 04:30 PM
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Your example seems to conflate what I've deemed as "emotional processing" with (cognitive) empathy, but I can answer both points. The point of the CORE Technique is not to develop empathy but to specifically rid yourself of troublesome emotions (e.g. difficult memories), and to generally detach yourself from emotions as-and-when they occur ("positive" and "negative"). For example, there is a subtle but critical difference between being anxious and observing anxiety; the former will control your …
/r/MGTOW223/07/19 12:44 PM
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Two things are going on. First, because the mind and body are connected in a loop, adopting somewhat of a Mona Lisa smile hacks your brain into thinking "Oh, I'm smiling. Must be feeling happy. Better release some endorphins then!"; essentially a slight smile feels good and improves your mood. Second, since body language conveys social status and strength, the smile (even if imperceptible) as part of the total package tells other people you are not weak or vulnerable... but not aggressive or hos…
/r/MGTOW223/07/19 08:24 AM
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Empathy means feeling what someone else feels. If they stub their toe, I know what they're feeling because I've stubbed my toe. Not just physical feelings, though. Empathy is literally defined as 'the ability to understand and share the feelings of another.' They want "empathy" because like anything else, they will always hide from accountability. Sounds like they want sympathy, not empathy. Sympathising with manipulative people means being manipulated by them; empathising means seeing they are …
/r/MGTOW222/07/19 08:04 PM
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This isn't make believe friend, this is for real, this is real life. Now you know what you're in for, come back to the plantation with me... quietly.
/r/MGTOW221/07/19 01:35 PM
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No. If I actually were trolling, then who? You? Or feminists?
/r/MGTOW221/07/19 11:57 AM
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What way to Stop them? By letting them :D What makes you think that we cant take ober the world? We are working on it ;) Work harder. I see a wonderful future for men being pampered and provided for by their women. Please make it happen soon. So, Girls need no father? There are actual theories that for children it is Importamt to have at least two parents. Two mothers would be good too, same with too daddys. To care for a kid alone is always difficult. It is not a theory that children generally …
/r/MGTOW219/07/19 03:42 PM
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Feminism is great. But you're Not talking about Feminis[m] It only looks like I'm advocating feminism because people are taking what I'm saying at face value. I do not believe feminism is viable or a threat in any way. I have written from that perspective. Btw. Why ist a stay-at-home-father only a win for boys? Not for girls? Boys need their fathers, or at the very least a male role model. If you look at communities with a lot of single mothers raising boys, you will see a lot of disturbed, dysf…
/r/MGTOW218/07/19 08:57 PM
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I don't know what you read but it certainly wasn't what I wrote. Still, I respect your decision.
/r/MGTOW218/07/19 05:44 PM
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This is a very interesting post. Love those quotes (I'm very interested in stoicism, too). I can only go by my own personal experience, and personally I regret being indifferent to things in the past, rather than detached. All I can say is that as I have fostered detachment, what little of this I've achieved so far has really benefited me. Indifference to me means not caring about something and being able to ignore it; Detachment means caring and being able to deal with something, but without em…
/r/MGTOW218/07/19 12:09 PM
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I'm actually trying to show you how to nullify the negative influence of identity politics in your life. If I can sort out problems with the mods, I can explicitly explain how it works in another post.
/r/MGTOW218/07/19 09:39 AM
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I think you have confused indifference with detachment. Indifference can imply apathy or even helplessness, whereas detachment does not.
/r/MGTOW217/07/19 05:18 PM
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Doesn't your assertion rest on your assumption that people are generally as sincere as you? By that I mean, the assumption that a feminist denying a basic biological reality does so because they actually believe what they are saying? There is actually a way to tell if someone believes what they are saying or if they are being deceptive.
/r/MGTOW217/07/19 04:19 PM
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Countless people are in an endless loop of medical subscriptions, suicide rates are going up, societal peace has been greatly disturbed, people are unhappy... Just for a mental exercise that could have been had if we had spent a little more time with some basic facts and figures and couple more biology lessons. You are right, BUT it seems you perceive the problem to be largely down to people not being aware of or accepting things like biological facts. You may find that in reality, most people a…
/r/MGTOW217/07/19 03:12 PM
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Last reply on this before making a more explicit post: Not only is it possible. It's the reality. Many men have been feminised by their upbringing and many suffer cognitive dissonance and unhappiness because of it. Absolutely! I don't underestimate the problem of current consumerism. I was just distinguishing between the phenomenon of being a consumer and current consumerism. I'm not just talking about the exploitation and environmental impact of modern consumerism, but that it is fundamentally …
/r/MGTOW217/07/19 02:23 PM
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Seems that way as face value, doesn't it? Could it be possible that many men are somewhat effeminate and emotional not because that is their natural state, but because they have been feminised by women? Could the (increasing) predominance of males being raised by single females have something to do with men's increasingly emotional and volatile emotional states? Stats seem to evidence men from single parent families generally aren't as balanced or do as well as those with both parents (or at lea…
/r/MGTOW217/07/19 01:57 PM
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I'll explain it all in another post.
/r/MGTOW217/07/19 01:53 PM
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Not my intention, but since it looks that way, then the best thing to do is explain in a separate post. Like I said, experiencing something for yourself is better than just being told about it.
/r/MGTOW217/07/19 01:52 PM
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100% agreed. The "Prussian System" is intended only to produce an obedient work-force. The state provides it for its own benefit, not yours (U.S. literacy rates were also higher before state education). It has also become quite blatant about brainwashing rather than "educating", and the "education" offered is so poor we have literally got to the point where degrees are not worth the paper they are printed on. This rotten system is not worth fighting for, saving, or getting into debt for. It neve…
/r/MGTOW217/07/19 01:48 PM
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Indifference is inhumane and is the source of most evil.
/r/MGTOW217/07/19 11:41 AM
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I'll do a separate post later and explain it all. I can empathise and understand that it seems as if I am taking some kind of secret, superior position and playing with you guys. Not the case, as will be explained. In all honesty, what I am offering is no secret, just perhaps a bit too subtle to see.
/r/MGTOW217/07/19 11:40 AM
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Have you met a lot of women who enjoy being worked like donkeys and dogs? I've met a lot of women who say they want to thrive in the workplace and have more responsibility and power. I am taking that at face value. When will we see feminists who'll heroically grab the shovel and start digging? No doubt when us men take them at their word [wink-wink]. The problem is what you argue is that women will never agree to what you are suggesting, except for the matriarchy part where they get to rule. Wha…
/r/MGTOW217/07/19 11:27 AM
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Well why don't you elaborate on the questions you were just asked instead of claiming you have some more informed, more detached perspective on these questions? It is for your benefit as there is a big difference between being told something (and believing it), and actually working it out and seeing it for yourself (e.g. describing how something tastes has no comparison to tasting that something for yourself). I do get your point, and don't necessary disagree with what you are saying.
/r/MGTOW217/07/19 11:20 AM
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A very interesting and informed man - an award-winning educator - called John Taylor Gatto has a lot to say about the true purpose of state education. There are lots of youtube vids about him (also look at his wiki page). How many people leave the education system with a clue how to critically think, what their rights are, or even take care of themselves in the real world (e.g. taxes, bills, etc.)? Isn't it the so-called "higher" education system that's filling people's heads with insane crap?
/r/MGTOW217/07/19 11:17 AM
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You're getting the idea...
/r/MGTOW217/07/19 10:28 AM
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What needs to happen is completely opposite to what you argue. Perhaps what I argue is a way of achieving that?
/r/MGTOW217/07/19 10:28 AM
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I am not directly answering some of the rebuttals because they miss my point completely. You are right about politicians, and yet people keep voting them in anyway. In part it is because many people are just as dishonest and deceitful; few people are as honest and direct as people on this subreddit. Anyway, I do see how distorted my views may look from your perspective, it is just that you have not yet seen mine. If need be I'll post a less subtle explanation.
/r/MGTOW217/07/19 10:27 AM
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A man is what he does, what he does is what he thinks, and what he thinks is what he believes. If there are two people in a room, and you are told one is stoic and reasonable, while the other is emotional and irrational, which do you think is the male, and which the female? Being emotional and ruled by one's emotions is effeminate and makes you easily manipulated. I am not arguing to be a slave to women at all. There is a lot wrong with being a current consumer. Plastics, "fast-fashion", and jun…
/r/MGTOW217/07/19 10:23 AM
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I can see how it comes across that way. Two people can accept the same facts, but just have very different perspectives - and psychological reactions - to them.
/r/MGTOW217/07/19 10:19 AM
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I'm arguing to give feminists what they want, with a few caveats based on feminist claims (e.g. oppression). Have you heard of John Taylor Gatto? He had a lot of say about the true point and purpose of state education institutions, for example. Because of this, I agree with feminists that women should be allowed to dominate these institutions (i.e. by and for women), and furthermore exclude men from them. HINT: this is a very, very good deal for men, even if it does not look that way at face val…
/r/MGTOW217/07/19 09:05 AM
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You are free to be a wage-slave and a consumer. I would also suggest that psychologically, masculine - manly - qualities also includes detachment, courage, stoicism, etc.
/r/MGTOW217/07/19 09:00 AM
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Serious answer: Yes I understand your well-thought-out points, it's just that I am offering a very different (hint: more detached) perspective on them.
/r/MGTOW217/07/19 08:57 AM
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Does the brain not rule better than the heart? No, not at all. Cleverness without empathy or compassion is extremely dangerous and destructive. Besides, one cannot rule without the heart, anyway. Not all smart people are good people with good hearts. Your edit is very interesting, but there isn't really a (((them))) in power, not really. There's no chain of "command", just a chain of obedience, which is what state education is really all about. What is some old rich fart going to do if people ju…
/r/MGTOW217/07/19 08:46 AM
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No-one is an island. And why suffer needlessly if you don't have to?
/r/MGTOW217/07/19 08:27 AM
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Now you are here saying, "hai gais, I have an idea, let's all quit our jobs en masse." And then what? Only one way to find out! If what you say about favouritism and special rights is true, then you should have no problem accepting feminists' claims of oppression at face value and offering to "swap" legal rights with them.
/r/MGTOW217/07/19 08:26 AM
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I am not trolling. I am offering another way for your benefit, even if you cannot see that.
/r/MGTOW217/07/19 08:24 AM
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There is a core question underlining your entire argument: what is a man? What do you mean by a man, exactly? And what is manliness, what is it that is universal to men (not just basic biological things)?
/r/MGTOW216/07/19 09:56 PM
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Ah, but within a patriarchal framework. We've never lived in a matriarchy where women are expected to be the providers, which is what I as a feminist supporter want. If you are right, then I guess that'll be the end of that society, and back to men in charge.
/r/MGTOW216/07/19 09:54 PM
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PS. Sign me up... Ooh! You're so close to understanding one of the points I'm actually making for why you should support feminism.
/r/MGTOW216/07/19 09:52 PM
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Unfortunately I am not arguing for "Marxist Feminism". I am arguing for matriarchy. As per the terms outlined in my argument, women should provide, and men should be provided for.
/r/MGTOW216/07/19 09:45 PM
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As outlined in my argument, feminism means we flip the script on the status-quo: Western women are oppressed and men are in a position of privilege, so (with two exceptions as already outlined), men will become oppressed by adopting the current rights of women, and women will become privileged by adopting the current rights of men. Women want to succeed in the workplace without men holding them back, so women will adopt the "masculine" role and work 40-80 hour weeks to provide for their men; men…
/r/MGTOW216/07/19 08:16 PM
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Compared to most of the rest of the world, you are in the elite too, my friend. Very few redditors live on and scour rubbish dumps for a living in 2nd or 3rd world countries. Anyway, is sex itself really the issue, or promiscuity?
/r/MGTOW216/07/19 05:50 PM
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Yes... and with all this in mind, for the very reasons you have cited, you should be wholeheartedly supporting feminism. Is not about the media, is about FREEDOM OF SPEECH and prevalence of TRUTH. What is important whatever the platform or media is to respect human rights and speak the truth. There is no freedom of speech nor is there a prevalence of truth. Lies and deception are the coin of the realm. That's why we're all in our current pickle.
/r/MGTOW216/07/19 05:35 PM
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As an aside, this is a great subreddit; very tolerant and engaging, even in spite of strong differences of opinion. You lost any respect I had for your post with this obtuse comment [about men running households and raising children]. Here's the thing - men in general are not simply cut out for it. It would lead to depression or worse. If there are men who like to do it, good for them. But do not try to make it trend. I've met men who are natural hard-workers and love it, but I've not met any th…
/r/MGTOW216/07/19 05:23 PM
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Pretty much, yes. If it is important to you to know what my point is, and you can't see it for yourself by then, PM me in a few hours or tomorrow (give yourself a chance), and I'll explain it to you.
/r/MGTOW216/07/19 05:12 PM
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Judgements only really indicate one's approval or disapproval. Judgements are also only personal opinions masquerading as facts, meaning the more judgemental one is, the more deluded one is (since opinions are assumed to be facts). Pretty much everyone - including feminists - is stupid in someone else's eyes. Would it not benefit you psychologically to lose any anger or resentment towards what you perceive to be stupid people? If anger fixed things and righted wrongs, given how angry most are, t…
/r/MGTOW216/07/19 05:10 PM
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No, the reality of the way the world really does work. I don't think the world as-it-is, is the product of reasoned thought and informed choices.
/r/MGTOW216/07/19 04:24 PM
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By "step up" I assume you mean taking on equal responsibility and accountability. Equal risk and hazard. True equality. No. Not at all. I mean men should be oppressed just as women are today by giving them the rights women have today (with the exceptions noted above); women are to be given what are perceived to be the superior rights and privileges of men today. I mean that traditional gender roles could be switched: as requested, women are to be expected to go out and work while men are provide…
/r/MGTOW216/07/19 04:23 PM
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Problem is, "what should be" is a personal opinion that exists only in the mind, whereas "what is" is an empirical fact that exists in objective reality. The world does not work the way you think it should in reality. Why not accept reality and work with it?
/r/MGTOW216/07/19 04:15 PM
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I'm not blaming all the world's problems on men, feminists are. So let's find out if they can do a better job. The way things are going, there's really little or nothing to lose.
/r/MGTOW216/07/19 04:14 PM
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That's the opinion of the author based on the opinion of Aristotle, and although I see what point you are trying to make, it is not entirely relevant to my argument.
/r/MGTOW216/07/19 04:13 PM
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From what I've read, it seems there is some anger or at least frustration on your part in regards to women. Would it not be to your benefit to perhaps look at the issue from another perspective - without even having to change your underlying beliefs - a perspective that won't result in such negative emotions?
/r/MGTOW216/07/19 04:11 PM
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Last I checked if you wanted a baby out of a woman you peed in her butthole and stood around with a catcher's mitt near her belly button to catch a baby. Well, it is said that we learn something new every day, and it seems today is my day! LOL
/r/MGTOW216/07/19 03:10 PM
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We're king of going around in circles at this point. Point is, if it is all just verbal sparring and debates, it will never end. On the other hand, imagine if enough men said to feminists: "OK, we agree with everything, we will step aside on condition current rights (with the exceptions listed) are reversed so men are "oppressed", and now you lot go out and work and run everything". Now there is no longer any justification for growing resentment, claims of oppression, etc. If you're wrong and wo…
/r/MGTOW216/07/19 03:06 PM
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Was Obama was picked just because he was a democrat or just because of a single policy?
/r/MGTOW216/07/19 02:55 PM
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Feminism has never been popularly supported by men. In fact, it seems to me the division between men and women is growing by the day. Something has to give, and better sooner than later.
/r/MGTOW216/07/19 02:54 PM
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I was given the boot because people got triggered and overtaken by their emotions. Moreover, they were triggered by their own misinterpretations of what I am arguing, not actually what I am arguing. Everything you have said is false.
/r/MGTOW216/07/19 02:45 PM
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Not true. There is an endless variety of interpretations about everything. Is it possible you've misinterpreted?
/r/MGTOW216/07/19 02:41 PM
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If an attempt to do that to women happened, I believe that vast majority of men would put a stop to that before it even started. If an attempt to do that to men happened, I believe the vast majority of men would put a stop to that before it even started.
/r/MGTOW216/07/19 02:39 PM
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So what empowerment do they need? Sounds like more privileges without responsibility. Why are they not content to live under the exact same laws as men? Oh right, it's a supremacy movement. There's only one way to find out for sure. If enough men support feminism, then women will either have to step up or refuse. One way or another it will be an end to endless arguments.
/r/MGTOW216/07/19 02:38 PM
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Then you must be in a very tiny minority. Seems to me most people pick based on party allegiance and politician personas, not individual merit or even policies.
/r/MGTOW216/07/19 02:36 PM
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I think you misunderstand my point.
/r/MGTOW216/07/19 02:28 PM
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That's up to the mod. Would be a real shame to shut down an open-minded conversation to your benefit (which exists even if you can't see it).
/r/MGTOW216/07/19 02:28 PM
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So if what you say is true, then what in principle is preventing you from supporting feminism and women's empowerment? If feminists and women are lying about being oppressed, then wouldn't men actually being prepared to support it result in a refusal?
/r/MGTOW216/07/19 02:26 PM
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Seems to me that feminism is blamed quite often for MGTOW, which is - at least in part - a reaction to it. It also seems to me that what is advantageous to you can provide a better quality of life. If no-one else is in your corner, at least be able to count on yourself.
/r/MGTOW216/07/19 02:24 PM
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OK, if what you say is true, then what harm is there in supporting feminism in principle? If you are right, then wouldn't men actually being prepared to support feminists and the empowerment of women result in their refusal to accept? In this case, wouldn't the feminist cause effectively be finished? To put it another way, let's say there's some internet tough-guy threatening that he can beat you up. You can both argue about who's toughest until the end of time, but if you were to call him out a…
/r/MGTOW216/07/19 02:21 PM
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Is it possible that you've merely misunderstood my point? I've made no such assumptions about men or women (and not mentioned anything about souls). I've only stated the current situation and posited a possible solution to it.
/r/MGTOW216/07/19 02:07 PM
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Since we have never lived under a matriarchy, there is no way to know whether it would work or not unless we tried. I say "give it a go!" Why not? Things are currently going from bad to worse, with social and environmental collapses just around the corner, anyway. I suggest matriarchy is a solution as women are ready to take responsibility, more and more men are fed up with society as it is, and our current position is not sustainable.
/r/MGTOW216/07/19 01:54 PM
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OK, there's a lot to deal with, so let's break it down and focus on core principles. The first is that Feminists claim that women are oppressed. You seem to claim that women have more legal rights than men, and that men are oppressed (hope I'm not putting words in your mouth so correct me if I'm wrong). Logically, both claims cannot be true. So, if feminists truly believe women are oppressed, and you truly believe men are oppressed, why not agree in principle to "swap" current rights, as suggest…
/r/MGTOW216/07/19 01:50 PM
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I don't know you to make any personal judgements about you. If nothing else, this could be a good opportunity for you to argue and test the validity of your counter-arguments...
/r/MGTOW216/07/19 01:43 PM
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Please explain?
/r/MGTOW216/07/19 01:42 PM
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I've not insulted or mocked anyone. I've put forward an argument for debate.
/r/MGTOW216/07/19 01:42 PM
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Under the patriarchy European birth-rates are low and immigration is high with forecasts white-Europeans will be a minority within a few generations. You want things to continue as they are?
/r/MGTOW15/07/19 01:27 PM
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