| Upvotes | Title | Category | Author | Subreddit | Date (UTC) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 133 | Most men just take the little options they get | CMV | mextreme10 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/22 02:05 PM |
| 34 | Do men or women choose? | Discussion | mextreme10 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/22 04:16 AM |
| 31 | Marriages built on raw lust are less successful | CMV | mextreme10 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/22 08:10 AM |
| 12 | Approaching guidelines | Question For Women | mextreme10 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/03/22 06:54 AM |
| 11 | Do your partners know your n count? | Question For Women | mextreme10 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/22 02:10 PM |
| 7 | Dating quality through ages | mextreme10 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/22 04:05 PM | |
| 4 | Skinny due to distance running | Outer Game | mextreme10 | /r/seduction | 23/02/22 01:47 AM |
| 1 | Effect of height | Science | mextreme10 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/22 01:01 AM |
| 0 | What men lose in the open sexual marketplace is gained back in serious LTR | CMV | mextreme10 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/22 02:19 PM |
| Upvotes | Comment on | Subreddit | Date (UTC) |
|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | I hear a lot of people say that women "aren't rocket science" When it comes to dating. I disagree wholeheartedly.Would you agree that the guy she’s eyeing up is almost always one of the hottest guys in the room. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/22 11:56 PM |
| 3 | Is women's attraction influenced by other things beside physical attraction, or do women just make exceptions for men with success and money?This is inline with evolutionary psychology. Particular the hormonal cyclical. Alpha traits consist of a man’s genetic potential. Beta traits consist of his ability to support and provide. When women are fertile, they prioritize genetic traits as they want to be impregnated by a man with good genetics. When women aren’t fertile, the genetic potential doesn’t matter and they’re attracted to relationshipy traits. To truly understand female attraction, you have to realize there are two separate alg… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/10/22 08:54 PM |
| 8 | Why is porn hated by so many women?It’s way more common than you would think. The male brain is wired for diversity so it’s addictive and chasing other more extreme types. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/10/22 05:59 PM |
| 0 | CMV: A lot of men struggling are in their situations because they live in male dominated, rural or suburban areas.You’re jealous of men in the military. Really?!? Literally everywhere they go has way more men .Their wives cheat all the time. They’re literally away from their wives for most of the year. I would 100% rather be average joe than in the military. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/10/22 05:36 PM |
| 2 | CMV: A lot of men struggling are in their situations because they live in male dominated, rural or suburban areas.Larger cities have more girls but are also more competitive in all aspects. NYC club life for example, there is 100s of pubs with meh ratios but then there’s a few elite clubs with VIP areas with 5 girls per guy. I think the size of places can concentrate the control because it follows that one principal. The square root of any group has half of whatever it is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/10/22 04:45 AM |
| 3 | Is it true that men have it harder than women because what makes a man attractive can't be faked or is extremely difficult to achieve?We aren’t designed to work this way. Wether or not you’re able to have sex is the most intrinsic value as a person. No women being attracted to you is essentially them saying that you and your genes don’t deserve to exist. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/10/22 10:32 PM |
| 3 | Most of men's dating woes are due to the factor of imbalanced male-female ratios in their social environmentsRatio is a big factor. Why do you think Frats are so successful with women, they literally combine alcohol and 2:1 female:male ratio. I personally go to a engineering school and not in a Frat and I struggle. I frequent parties at other schools that are heavily female and feel like a playboy for a night. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/22 06:18 PM |
| 9 | Being a short guy is not the dating handicap its made out to be.That unreasonable happy and funny personality is often a compensation. If someone can’t get respect and attention for just existing they latch onto behaviors that get them positive social attention i.e. being funny, loud, extremely social. It can actually be unattractive as it signals that he values the attention of other men too much. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/22 03:02 AM |
| 1 | What is a "high value" male?It’s not a completely one or the other choice as in complete fuckboy or beta but husband but most men want more to offer sexual value than resources and provisioning value. More of the fuckboi benefits and less of the 15 dates later we might have sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/09/22 05:18 PM |
| 2 | Q4RP: If women are only attracted to hot and/or wealthy men then why are the majority of men still able to find relationships?From an evolutionary psychology perspective, woman look for two things in men. Resources and provisioning and genetics. Beta and alpha. The emotional algorithm for determining these is separate and can even be conflicting. Woman will date men with only or mostly “beta/provider” qualities and can even somewhat enjoy sex. The downside is that the man is easily replaceable, has to provide, gets less lust, and she is more likely to cheat. Red pill says become a person worth replicating. Gain alpha t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/22 04:38 AM |
| 0 | most blue pillers and blackpillers give lonely men a very grim view of dating kifeOur brains are still conditioned to the times when woman could only give birth at much younger ages. Hence why they become dramatically less sexually desirable around 30. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/22 04:19 AM |
| 0 | most blue pillers and blackpillers give lonely men a very grim view of dating kifeThe reason people enter sexual relationships is because it’s how we reproduce. If you can’t reproduce or it’s evolutionarily perceived that you can’t reproduce then you’re not very useful sexually. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/22 11:46 AM |
| 4 | Most men that aren't having sex are otherwise fairly normal dudes, not women hating misogynists like reddit and society would lead you to believeMen are not happy not having sex. It can be a surface level “fun” and put on a smile but we as animals desire to reproduce. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/22 10:07 PM |
| 1 | What do you think would be some underrated dating advice?Explain this | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/22 05:31 PM |
| 3 | Men settle- women do notIt’s more about long term mating. Men have almost never been evolutionary punished by having sex with a woman. In short term relationships (pre child support) there was near zero risk for the man. In long term mating a man risks his resources and time so it’s essential to ensure paternity. It’s less about the pussy being disgusting alone, more of the idea of commitment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/22 01:45 PM |
| 3 | Question for the women on here & I want you to genuinely think about it rather than impulsively answering.Location matters a lot. Part of TRP has talked about how social media and dating sites give average women access to more men. Even in cities, instead of picking a cute guy at the bar it’s a swipe through to find the absolute hottest man with a free night. Personally I both used tinder in NYC and upper middle class suburbia. Same profile but actual interest in suburbia. It’s impossible to stand out in a city of models. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/22 12:16 PM |
| 2 | The True Importance of Men’s Height: a discussion/debateOur brains are still wired for the past where respect ultimately boiled down to who could kick who’s ass. A big factor in that is height and size. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/22 04:11 PM |
| 2 | What trait(s) automatically puts a man above average?Actually you need some sort out selection in order to maintain a species. If we continue to push towards a world where everyone is equal and replicated equally the human genome would devolve into chaos . | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/22 02:33 AM |
| 2 | What are ways to affirm a man’s “masculinity” that aren’t tied to “dominating” or “subjugation”?Masculinity is just women’s needs essentially. Men were designed through evolution to provide to the needs of woman. The needs are 1 Protection. Can you protect? Size is the most important thing here as that’s what won most fights throughout history. Technique and martial arts weren’t as much of a thing historically. Resources. Can you produce something of value. It can literally be having abundant resources or it can be displaying passion about anything. The resources part is more strongly conv… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/22 05:20 AM |
| 12 | When men complain about women dating Chad and marrying Bob, is the aim for her to marry Bob sooner?Red pill says only answer is become chad. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/22 05:10 AM |
| 8 | Traditional blue pill advice works for attractive people and most women, Redpill advice works for average and above average men, NOTHING works for men below averageBasically. For casual sex, it is very much a small percentage of men getting most of the women. Especially now that most casual sex is initiated through tinder which literally optimizes for the most attractive and promiscuous men. Ugly woman actually have higher n-counts than attractive women. I saw a study a while ago, but n-count increased with bmi for woman. Men meanwhile had n-counts peak at a large attractive body. I disagree that it’s impossible for an ugly man, but it will almost only eve… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/22 05:03 AM |
| 6 | Traditional blue pill advice works for attractive people and most women, Redpill advice works for average and above average men, NOTHING works for men below averageDon’t do this, just buy sex if it’s really that bad. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/22 04:57 AM |
| 3 | The reason that the disparity in sexual privilege between men and women is so obfuscated not because there's any real doubt about it, but because of the solutions it impliesMen are not really going their own way, they may stop trying but given the opportunity they will gladly take sex. Our strongest biological imperative is to reproduce behind literally not dying. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/22 09:54 AM |
| 1 | The reason that the disparity in sexual privilege between men and women is so obfuscated not because there's any real doubt about it, but because of the solutions it impliesThe idea was not to give any comparisons to allow for the fake attraction that is marriage to succeed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/22 09:52 AM |
| 1 | How Much Is Too Much: N-Count Baseline Answer?Survive and reproduce that is our goal and has always been our goal. The only reason we even seek to survive is so that we can reproduce. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/22 10:38 PM |
| 1 | How Much Is Too Much: N-Count Baseline Answer?You can never been sure, but there is ways. You can kill anyone who try to, this isn’t even uncommon today. Territorial instincts can cause aggression. Another way is to find a girl that isn’t known for having slept around. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/22 07:34 PM |
| 1 | How Much Is Too Much: N-Count Baseline Answer?There was a way to make sure of paternity , make sure that you were the only one having sex with her. There was no other way to ensure paternity is the reason that making sure that your women were not having sex with other people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/22 12:52 PM |
| 1 | How Much Is Too Much: N-Count Baseline Answer?Yes a woman can be sexually shared, but the underlying biological imperative for sex is one for reproduction. There was no paternity tests, so he needed to ensure that the kids were his by making sure that only he was having sex with her. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/22 02:56 AM |
| 1 | How Much Is Too Much: N-Count Baseline Answer?Men evolved to have multiple woman, but not to share those women. Women can not be shared. They can only have one man’s kids. It’s evolutionary disadvantage for a man to raise another man’s kids. He gives away resources, but his genes aren’t carried on. The only way to prevent this was to ensure that a woman you were going to invest in seriously and plan to raise kids with was no sleeping with other people. You’re partly right on the culturally taught. We all are not perfect and such we’ve learn… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/22 10:38 PM |
| 2 | How Much Is Too Much: N-Count Baseline Answer?No, it’s not culturally taught. The reason men don’t like promiscuous women for long term relationships is because it’s disgusting. The reason it is disgusting is that in the past there was no good way to determine that your kids were your own. There was also no such thing as STD tests. I just compared this to women evolving to be attracted to tall muscular men. Logically speaking there is little practical benefit to having a tall and muscular man today. A weapon would do far more for personal p… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/22 04:30 AM |
| 5 | How Much Is Too Much: N-Count Baseline Answer?It stems from the fact that a man can support multiple women, but a woman can only support one man’s children. Men can be shared if they bring enough value, woman can not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/22 12:24 AM |
| 3 | How Much Is Too Much: N-Count Baseline Answer?The natural disgust for promiscuity developed in world without paternity tests, std tests, and birth control. Similar to how womens attraction to muscles developed before people typing on computers made more than those doing manual labor. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/22 12:22 AM |
| 3 | How Much Is Too Much: N-Count Baseline Answer?Humans naturally are polygamous in the sense that if a man provides enough value and resources to support multiple wives, women would go with him. Women don’t care where his penis has been as long as they get adequate resources, protection, and emotional investment. Men seek to get children from women, and woman can only produce one man’s children. So men care that the woman only sleeps with them. Birth control, child support, and paternity tests did not exist in our evolutionary environment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/22 12:20 AM |
| 1 | How Much Is Too Much: N-Count Baseline Answer?Just curious are you a high or low n count | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/22 12:13 AM |
| 2 | How Much Is Too Much: N-Count Baseline Answer?We have psychological need for sex and intimacy. If I didn’t feel ever feel lonely or horny why would I ever deal with a woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/22 12:12 AM |
| 1 | Why is the physical act of cheating so devastating to men?The difference is deeply rooted on an evolutionary level. The fundamental evolutionary exchange between a man and a woman is baby making in exchange for time, resources, protection and social status. Women become upset when they don’t get the “emotional” investment. Emotional investment is natures indicator of the resources available. Men get upset when they don’t get the sex. In the past it was much more common for women to get genes from one man and the investment from another | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/22 10:56 PM |
| 1 | How were you treated differently when you got fit? (men and women)Wow. I run cross country and track D3, and I like it but I’m tiny. I’m 130 and 5’7”. Other than that I’m an extremely good socially, light skin, blue eye, curly hair, and good style. Reading this has confirmed that the only thing holding me back is my size. The temptations to quit track and just get big is so high right now. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/22 01:46 AM |
| 1 | Q4A At what height is a man’s dating life hindered?Statistics of average body count and height 5’7” and under has the biggest effect. It’s still not the reason you’re a virgin. A 5’2” man could expect to double his body count if he was 6’0” roughly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/22 11:28 PM |
| 2 | Women want to feel desired by many men, men want to be desired by one wonan only.This backwards. Men want to be the only man desired by multiple women, women want to be desired by one man who is desired by many women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/22 10:10 PM |
| 2 | [discussion] What is really being the truth about the physical attractiveness??I think height is just an easy thing to point out. Other factors matter more, but are harder to describe. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/22 03:10 AM |
| 1 | So you want women to "lower their standards" but at the same time "not settle" for you....HOW is that possible?We’re not okay being lied to. It’s less that we care what you sexually do, we just want our LTRs to be low N-Count. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/22 02:23 PM |
| 1 | So you want women to "lower their standards" but at the same time "not settle" for you....HOW is that possible?No It just matters. In the same way muscles matter to women. There is preferences were instinctively born with an this is one of them. Do women need a man that can fist fight anymore, probably not. It’s still arguable as to wether body count is a predictor of infidelity or not. Yes there is probably other traits and behaviors that are higher indicators. Regardless it’s disgusting when a woman has a large sexual past. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/22 02:22 PM |
| 2 | Do you think the same thing as in Japan is gonna happen to the entire world when western lifestyle/values/culture spreads everywhere?Marriage in the past was never about attraction. Only recently is it for attraction. What we’re learning is that attraction is a ruthless mechanism designed to optimize reproductive success for individuals 1000s of years ago. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/22 02:12 PM |
| 2 | Q4A At what body fat percentage is a woman's dating life hindered?Women carry it very differently and actually super skinny is not the most preferred. The closest to healthy is actually the best as it indicates the best fertility. I think dating is more competitive for women simply because they want the very best men. In order to attract a “HVM” you probably should be less than 27. To get cheap casual sex probably under 50. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/22 08:36 PM |
| 1 | Is there truth in this - If a woman doesn't give you her body, she isn't interested in you?For short term relationships no. For long term yes. Human mating psychology is extremely complex. There is a whole subject called evolutionary psychology. We are beings that want to reproduce. A serious threat in the past was false paternity. For most of history we did not have genetic tests and most people looked quite similar, it was much more common for women to acquire genes from one man and parental investment from another. Because of this men developed to avoid promiscuous women because it… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/22 08:01 PM |
| 1 | Is there truth in this - If a woman doesn't give you her body, she isn't interested in you?It’s not logical, it’s just nature. Men don’t like promiscuous women. Girls being attracted to height is not logical either, it’s just nature. It’s like saying she’s too afraid to buy a step stool, so she wants a tall guy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/22 02:56 PM |
| 1 | Is there truth in this - If a woman doesn't give you her body, she isn't interested in you?I think deep down women realize that putting out early makes them seem like sluts, which is undesirable for ltr. A lot of women who would normally put out early then start making him wait when they’re looking for a ltr as to not appear to be a slut. It’s well known that women don’t want to appear like sluts. No not because society has conditioned them, but because men naturally don’t like promiscuous women. What angers people is the deception aspect. She’s had dozens of one night stands in the p… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/22 02:52 PM |
| 1 | I feel like paternity tests should be done for every child at birth to prove who the father is or isn't.General rate is actually around 2percent. Much much higher in studies of people who were already questioning whether they were the father. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/22 11:47 PM |
| 1 | If we had absolutely perfect data on sex and relationships, what are the sorts of things we would discover about people?This is something that is easily studied and called genetic cuckoldry. I think rate is about 2 percent. That’s high, but not extreme. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/22 02:55 PM |
| 2 | As a man, I think the men here greatly underestimate the fundamental advantages of being a man in society......Being a man is definitely better, outside of smp. If I wasn’t biologically driven to have relationships with women I would be totally happy being a man. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/22 12:16 AM |
| 2 | So you want women to "lower their standards" but at the same time "not settle" for you....HOW is that possible?Each species falls between polygyny and monogamous based on the level of parental investment. Some species like seals it’s basically what you described where 1/50 males will ever reproduce. Humans are born not fully developed and need a lot of parental investment so we pair bond, or as we know fall in love. This gets more complicated as there is dual mating strategies and mate switching. Dual mating is getting genes and parental investment from two different males. We are not fully monogamous. I… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/22 12:36 AM |
| 5 | So you want women to "lower their standards" but at the same time "not settle" for you....HOW is that possible?1 is biology. 2 I’d rather a girl make me wait if that meant that in the past she wasn’t sleeping around. I feel like most girls in teens/early 20s are sluts, but obviously don’t want to appear like a slut to any men when they’re looking for a husband. When they’re dating seriously they’ll then hold off on sex, try to hide their past, or even lie about things like n count or past experiences | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/22 10:20 PM |
| 8 | Is it fair to say that BOTH men and women hit an "Epiphany" stage in their 30s?Women naturally on an attraction level don’t care about mens n-counts. They would rather rationalize him sleeping around than question why he wasn’t sleeping around. Most men suffer in this scenario because women rack up higher body counts than ever, but only with a small percentage of men. We get little casual sex, build relationships later, and our future wives are probably more sexually experienced and with higher tier men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/22 04:31 PM |
| 4 | The vast majority of men would prefer a relationship to constantly trying for hookups. Women however only give their attention to the ones that only want sex.Learn game and looksmax , r/seduction is good Don’t overlook any details. How you well your clothes fit and match matters just as much as how expensive they are. How you talk more important than what you say. Etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/22 10:37 PM |
| 1 | What makes women want to enter into a casual relationship?The problem is men want higher n-counts for the casual partners and low n-counts for their long term. Men will sleep with women casually knowing/thinking that it’s lowering her long term relationship value. The solution most men are proposing is that they can engage in casual sex, but simply won’t choose a high n-count for a long term relationship. The contrary solution is that men should abstain from casual sex to collectively lower women’s n-counts for long term relationships. If you avoid cas… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/22 05:33 AM |
| 1 | Which group of women do short men have the best luck with?Height is not the reason you don’t have a strong career. Liken this to racism. Yes racism exists and effects minorities as groups, but it’s not the reason any individual doesn’t have a job. Shorter women. I’m 5’7” and prefer shorter women naturally. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/22 09:12 PM |
| 3 | Women love "high value men", but it's not actually that hard to be oneThe human race is literally going extinct rn. We are entering population decline very soon and a significant part of that is the failure in mating. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/22 01:59 AM |
| 7 | Women love "high value men", but it's not actually that hard to be oneLogically they don’t provide anything youre right in that sense. Sexual attraction defies logic because it as a mate selecting system is very outdated (was designed for tribes 1000s of years ago). Women treat a guy totally differently depending on wether he’s sexual attractive or not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/22 01:56 AM |
| 1 | Women love "high value men", but it's not actually that hard to be oneFirst there is way more than these 4 traits that play into attraction. Remember that attraction/love is simply your brain saying that it’s advantageous to mate with that particular person. Your argument appears to be that attraction is dependent mostly of effort rather than absolute performance. On a deep emotional level you want the man the WILL help your children to survive and thrive, not the man TRYING to help you and your children. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/22 01:52 AM |
| 1 | What other socially acceptable ways to pickup women?I don’t think the correct strategy is to pursue/pickup women anymore. Just put yourself in a position around women and really learn how to pickup the signs of interest. You still might have to do the formal asking out and initiating things. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/22 06:21 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: Thoughts on Kevin SamuelsWhite women are definitely more desirable just from media etc. I think it’s also much more the community. I’m personally mixed, but grew up quite well which naturally put around white people more than black people. My father (black) the same. He met my mother in what is a very white town, because he was there with his other college friends. Personally I’m more attracted to white women simply because that’s what I’ve grown up around. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/22 01:51 AM |
| 5 | The reason men get butthurt about women making them waitShe is virtue signaling. It’s less about not getting what previous people got. It’s about trying to hide that they’re high n-count to preserve that their relationship material. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/22 09:33 PM |
| 1 | Do you think it's a good thing or a bad thing - or neither - that women dominate college and already have a foothold in dominating the economy? And why?Part of it socialization/traditional gender roles, but part of it also natural sex differences. Women generally are more interested in people, while men are more interested in things. Historically women relied on their community around them support them through pregnancy and raising children which requires good social standing. Men typically needed to attract women and feed themselves by doing something. Also women have a lot more freedom, because society and their family are often way more unde… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/22 06:23 AM |
| 1 | Women have access to more sex than men, but do they have access to more "quality" sex than men?One thing I’ve learned is that women’s sexual compatibility and even orgasms are quite dependent on how hot they perceive their partner to be. It’s not just putting in work, giving oral, or skill. t’s also how hot the guy is. I’m not saying the same effect happens for men, but it’s takes relatively less to suffice. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/22 01:20 AM |
| 1 | Don’t you want to be that guy?Partially right and not by accident. Men naturally want to be everything that women want. Men have been selectively bred by women for certain traits such as be successful, lead, problem solve, and intelligent. Not every man can and or wants be that guy. There are a lot of immutable factors. Height the most commonly complained about. Personally, I’m a long distance runner and love it, but I’m constantly being told if I ever want to consistently attract women and or hold off hypergamy I have to be… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/22 12:58 AM |
| 2 | Why women talks about their previous experience ?Women don’t have to consider whether what they say makes them attractive or not 99% of time, they just do whatever they want. Women are, men become | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/22 05:34 AM |
| 7 | Most men just take the little options they getThis isn’t a bad take, but how do you attract women to yourself vs your things and differentiate between the two | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/22 03:26 PM |
| 7 | Most men just take the little options they getThere is definitely overlap but not the same percentage. There is some men who will somewhat often fall in that small percentage of attractive to any particular girl, but most might only be considered attractive by a handful of women at most. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/22 03:16 PM |
| 10 | Most men just take the little options they getShould men become friends with women with romantic intent? This was also looked down upon | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/22 03:13 PM |
| -1 | Most men just take the little options they getBut most girls aren’t going on dates they’re not attracted to unless they’re hitting the epiphany phase and worried that they’ll never secure a guy they are. To get a date the girl has to either have already developed feelings for you or is attracted to you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/22 02:56 PM |
| 15 | Most men just take the little options they getIt’s hard for men to get the chance without being immediately attractive. Any sort of cold approach or OLD requires instant visual attraction. Warmer approaches like going for friends or coworkers is much more looked down upon. Usually then it’s best just wait for the girl to be interested anyway, still what I was originally saying. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/22 02:44 PM |
| 1 | Most men just take the little options they getIt’s really sad how women will change once they approach 30. Dates will go from a fun connection based thing to an interview. Yeah you may still love them and they love you, but 10 years ago they wouldn’t have batted an eye at you. They sleep with the hot and fun guys and turn around to the provider who’s been waiting to save her all along. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/22 02:28 PM |
| 1 | How do you filter f$$k boys, vet guys better for a LTR? Do you actively try to keep a relatively low body count? how?Red pill also has harsh truths for women too. Ofc NAWALT and NAMALT, but most men are product of their options. Given the choice most men would rather have a haram of women the commit to one on a purely sexual level. Look in college where it’s majority female, casual sex is very common and relationships are hard to get. Go to my tech college where mostly men and relationships everywhere. The same guys that sleeping around in college, once they leave and can’t find endless parties full of attract… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/22 02:15 PM |
| 1 | How do you filter f$$k boys, vet guys better for a LTR? Do you actively try to keep a relatively low body count? how?Yeah, most people are just a product of their environment sadly. If a guy can’t find consistent access to sex he’s probably going to try to secure what he can get. If a guy has access to unlimited sex he’s not going to restrict that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/22 02:11 PM |
| 3 | Cold Approaches/online dating vs Dating women/men within existing social Networks, and why?You’re supposed to get a girl then move to the suburbs | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/22 01:18 PM |
| 4 | Cold Approaches/online dating vs Dating women/men within existing social Networks, and why?I keep hearing that a lot of women very rarely develop feelings for people. Do you consistently land relationships out of this small group of men or does this make dating hard? It seems to me that women do the “choosing”, while majority of men just wait for a woman to be interested in them and maybe they’ll have an option or two, but for the most part it’s take what you can get. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/22 01:07 PM |
| 1 | Dating quality through agesI’ve been really interested in the evo psych subject, but it’s all depressing. It is extremely complex for women and there’s also a bit of an arms race. Women find an accurate selector for successful men, men adapt to emulate that. Women like things that are hard to fake, preselection, confidence, attitude, value. Even things that would be unintuitive like men not being too invested in them. Neediness is super unattractive, because men have faked traits to lure women for ages. Men are relatively… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/22 11:48 PM |
| 1 | Dating quality through agesCollege is definitely the best time. Everyone is available, with limited men and plenty of socializing. A bit personal, but I worry I’m missing out on the best time and best options since I’m at tech school, with like 2:1 male to female. Part of me worries I’m missing the best opportunity and the best LTR oriented girls will be taken. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/22 11:27 PM |
| 1 | Dating quality through agesEvolutionary Psychology would say the only reason women are attracted to men is because they believe they can a quite something from him. Women get some combination of status, protection, resources, leadership, etc. That is the fundamental reason women are attracted to men. Or the perception of such. A gun would offer way more protection today, but women are still attracted to muscles and height. A frat president doesn’t have much resources, but the social status would have indicated that. It’s … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/22 11:08 PM |
| 1 | Dating quality through agesThe interpretation thing is really important. I think women love men for what they provide or their brain perceives they can provide. They’re ultimately with you, because they love you though. I think evo psych/TRP puts so much focus of the biological reason they’re with you they forget the emotional reason they’re with you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/22 07:03 PM |
| 2 | Q4Bluepill: In your opinion why do you think more Women iniate divorce than men?women get married expecting the man to change, men get married expecting to woman to stay the same | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/22 09:38 PM |
| 4 | N-Count Mega-ThreadI feel like it’s one of those things you quickly become desensitized to. As a kid you were probably disgusted by the idea of sharing a bottle with someone, then everyone’s sharing water bottles at soccer practice or passing around a handle or blunt at a party and it’s suddenly not that bad. I still believe you can’t wife a sex addicted party slut, but a reasonable amount of partners isn’t a problem. I think you just need to experience it and realize it’s not an important thing. how to get experi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/22 04:14 PM |
| 1 | 4 Attractive Variables for Men - PLZ MAKE YOUR ANSWERS SUPER SIMPLE FOR OVERTHINKING PPD MENAFBB worded differently | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/22 04:02 PM |
| 1 | 4 Attractive Variables for Men - PLZ MAKE YOUR ANSWERS SUPER SIMPLE FOR OVERTHINKING PPD MENSo far you’ve met a total of 3 men you find sexually attractive, what you’ve described at best describes top 10% of men. The numbers here aren’t good for you or men looking for a relationship. A, needs to be attractive about a 3/1000s of men you’ve met B needs to hit top 5% standards of life together, mental healthy, physical health C You need this probably already desirable man to like you back | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/22 03:59 PM |
| 2 | What exactly forms a man into a "natural" ignoring uncontrollable genetics and circumstances?Our identities in terms of hobbies & interests aren’t predetermined. If you take a kid to sports games and show interest in their sports they will like sports. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/22 11:50 PM |
| 2 | Most guys are subconsciously attracted to the women they think they can get, not the women who are actually hotI think I offer a somewhat unique perspective, but I am engineering school, where women are only about 30%, maybe 20% within my classes and are objectively not very attractive. The girls we consider attractive here wouldn’t have even been average in High School. Short to say, in terms of attractiveness options are limited. (personality traits are actually pretty good). The girls I’ve been starting to literally find attractive, I wouldn’t have even considered in high school. I’m looking at ugly g… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/22 02:11 AM |
| 1 | Is the only way to increase fertility rate to take away women's rights? If so, why not let fertility rate decline?It doesn’t matter how we distribute the money on a fundamental level if you assume you people are more productive than old people, you will have less production and more people to serve. This is regardless of whatever capitalistic, socialistic distribution of labor and or capital. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/22 01:56 PM |
| 1 | Is the only way to increase fertility rate to take away women's rights? If so, why not let fertility rate decline?No not at all, because i’m population decline you have yes young productive people are a lot more old people. The standards of care for old people are higher than ever to and it’s unsustainable. This happens on a societal level and in personal families. Imagine one kid trying to take of 4 grandparents and 2 parents. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/22 01:54 PM |
| 1 | [Q4W] How much emotionally vulnerable do you want your partner to be in front of you? At what point it becomes "emotional labour" or to you?I agree, but I don’t know how far we can really break down gender roles into the feminist utopian vision. I don’t even mean that as insult in theory completely erasing gender roles down to practicality would be great, but sadly much of gender roles is in genetics. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/22 01:36 AM |
| 4 | What eventually happens to most of the single men on online dating?She’s right though, black women have it much harder than black men. Obviously being a woman in of itself helps a lot, but relative to their white counterparts. Black men are surprisingly liked, almost on par white white men. The is due to the societal masculinization of black people, then being aggressive, uncontrolled, athletic, dangerous. These are deeply internalized, it’s basically subconscious race play. While yes you can’t control what you’re attracted, I don’t want to be loved because of … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/22 01:18 AM |
| 1 | women (and guys) are you currently leading someone on that you don't have feelings for? if so, why? be honest this is reddit.I think there is definitely some mental hoops going on here. A lot of women know deep down that a lot of their “friends” wouldn’t be friends if they didn’t have a vagina. Open up any attractive girls snapchat, there’s a lineup of men that are all just “friends”, and maybe one or two they would actually consider dating. My perspective is only younger, 21 and under, so take that for it. It’s not necessarily always dangling out the chance of something romantic, but they definitely take advantage of… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/22 07:42 PM |
| 6 | women (and guys) are you currently leading someone on that you don't have feelings for? if so, why? be honest this is reddit.This has to be the most red pilled, blue pilled man. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/22 07:34 PM |
| 2 | Q4M who believe that women having tattoos is a “red flag” for promiscuity: do you have tattoos?It’s not talked about, but it’s definitely a thought. There is a difference between beauty and hotness and tattoos and piercings are one of them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/04/22 03:03 AM |
| 4 | Q4M who believe that women having tattoos is a “red flag” for promiscuity: do you have tattoos?I think it’s generally the radicalism that tattoos, piercing, etc represent. You’re literally piercing and or altering your own body. It’s also the factor that you don’t care about self imagine, which indicates that you’re more likely to be promiscuous because you don’t care about reputation. It’s a self fulfilling thing, because once tattoos become associated with being promiscuous, then only people who don’t mind being seen as promiscuous get them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/04/22 02:43 AM |
| 1 | The reason most women get used for sex is because, under hypergamy, most women have nothing to offer men outside of their vaginas at any given SMV exchange.I think I was watching something and they have studied “incel” communities which have way higher levels autism https://www.adl.org/blog/online-poll-results-provide-new-insights-into-incel-community Study says 40% self identify as autism. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/22 10:06 PM |
| 1 | Clubs are a phenomenal place to pick up women and most people don't talk about it.If you want casual sex you’re going for trashy girls. No quality, self respecting women are going to magically want a hookup for some Chad. Well some might, but most girls are pretty definitively either relationship girls or casual sex girls. Be careful going to into relationships with casual sex type girls. I.E. don’t try to find your wife in the club. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/22 05:49 PM |
| 3 | Alpha-Bux, the male unicorn, myth or rare?These high earning women universally seek out high earners. The high earning men will be much more likely to marry down outside of high earners. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/22 12:21 AM |
| 0 | What's wrong with being cautious in a world where you're on your own?I don’t think it’s the risk itself that is not understand. I think men and women psychologically perceive risk differently naturally. There is many other risks in the world and predominantly men are are targeted, men just have high risk tolerances. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/22 12:06 AM |
| 1 | The logistics of dating as a man.95% of men do not have enough options to be spinning plates and then looking for a virgin wife. How many girls do your seriously have interested you and fit all of your other requirements every year? What percentage of woman your age are virgins? The numbers simply don’t work for 95% of men so we just accept reality and go for lower n-counts too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/22 01:42 PM |
| 1 | The logistics of dating as a man.Yes I agree virgins are preferred, but in the real 99% of people choose to sacrifice on this when looking for LTRs | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/22 11:36 AM |
| 2 | The logistics of dating as a man.Firstly, most men don’t care about virginity unless they themselves are religious and abstain until marriage VOLUNTARILY. Most virgin women also do care that their partners are virgins and also are waiting for marriage. This is very different from the incels on here who are involuntarily virgins. Just because you are virgin doesn’t mean you deserve a virgin woman. Currently getting so few women so they simply don’t get a pick of n-count. If you’re not in abundance of women there is many other th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/22 02:28 AM |
| 3 | The logistics of dating as a man.A virgin is totally different than low-N. It is legitimately hard for women to stay virgin while dating, between catching feelings, failed relationships, or even rape. You can have whatever standards you want if you can find and attract those women, but for most men, and I assume you, we simply can’t. Yeah i’d like a 5’2” virgin, skinny, blonde that’s kind, emotionally healthy, pretty face, has a job, healthy family, not too clingy, intelligent, healthy skin, and more. Life might hand me a few o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/22 09:50 PM |
| 1 | Are women just more queer than men?that’s just because the default is straight. 99% of people start off assuming they’re straight some will switch to lesbian and then some of them will switch back to straight. Since the people switching from lesbian to straight are a portion of the people who switched from straight to lesbian there will always be more people switching from straight to lesbian than the other way around. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/22 06:37 PM |
| 1 | People who were bitter but eventually found love, what was the beginning of you losing that bitterness?A little bit of fat is actually attractive and it’s also healthier for women. I’m not saying obese woman. Women aren’t supposed to have six packs that’s not healthy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/22 06:23 PM |
| 1 | The logistics of dating as a man.You have a chance then, but it’s the exception and if you’re already struggling to attract women you’re going to have a hard time selecting for that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/22 06:19 PM |
| 1 | The logistics of dating as a man.How old are you? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/22 06:17 PM |
| 1 | Is height preference more than just physical attraction?This is correct to a degree, statistically 5’7” would expect to have 10% less partners than a 6” man, while 5’4” would have ~50% less than a 6” man. It’s still far from zero, so it’s a hinderance, but not the end people make it out to be. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/22 06:05 PM |
| 5 | The logistics of dating as a man.There is a million and one other statistics on marriages that last and many of greater effect, follow some of those. You’d probably have a much easier time looking for a woman with similar finances so divorce wouldn’t be nearly as bad. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/22 05:57 PM |
| 1 | The logistics of dating as a man.You might as well join a church that’s literally your only chance. You’d at least make your life possible targeting under 3 n-count | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/22 05:56 PM |
| 1 | Do overweight women struggle attracting men?It’s also healthy for men to have lower bf% than women. A six pack on a girl is actually not ideal. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/22 03:09 AM |
| 1 | Do overweight women struggle attracting men?Lifting can actually be more beneficial cardio. The recovery from lifting is where the calories are burnt and muscle is very calorie dense. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/22 03:03 AM |
| 4 | The Facts on the Ground: What is Really Going On?I agree with the point there is definitely a lot of difference depending where you’re at and the type of people it attracts, even just your circumstances. Go to Manhattan, everyone is very materialistic and status oriented. Women have also been commercialized indirectly through the promoter based club scene. This probably the extreme of the progression of sexual marketplace. Lack of educated men also leads to women having a hard time finding LTRs. Encouraged casual sex through later in life. Go … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/22 04:09 PM |
| 3 | “Lower you standard”, is the worst possible advice a person can get, when it comes to datingEven ugly, broke, fat people end up in relationships and are loved in them, but normally by other people who are broke, ugly and fat. The bar for attraction is dependent upon where you view the other person relative to yourself i.e. hypergamy. “Lower your standards” is bad because it is addressing the symptom that the person can’t attract anybody who meets their standards. The true problem is that the person thinks they’re way more attractive then they are which in turn makes them only interest … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/22 05:52 PM |
| 1 | The notion of "unconditional love"It’s hard to differentiate love and attraction. Attraction is the I want to fuck the living brains out of you and love is mutual care for each other and their lives. Both attraction and love are conditional, and the control we have on either can be different. Attraction is contingent upon support, frame, health, fitness, drive, attitude and is very much out of our control. Love is based on being with someone who genuinely think is a great individual and working with them towards a common goal. Y… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/22 04:54 AM |
| 10 | Comparing Height Preferences to Expected Baseline - A Simulation vs. Surveyed Datahttps://www.researchgate.net/figure/Height-and-mean-sex-partner-number-with-standard-errors-for-heterosexual-men-and-women_fig1_283199925 These are statistics on height and average number of partners. Trends within average number of partners is directly correlated with a man’s attractiveness. (The same is not true for women as more attractive women tend to get into relationships, but I digress) Beyond 5’7” it doesn’t matter that much, but there is a significant trend. A 5’2” man would be expecte… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/03/22 10:11 PM |
| 6 | What percentage of men do you actually believe are sexually active with women?This is how it was for most of history if not worse | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/03/22 12:32 AM |
| 10 | What are the dating prospects for the bottom 20% of men?Do you enjoy your life? Beyond getting women, how do you live like that? You’re not even halfway through life don’t you want to do more? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/22 10:03 PM |
| 3 | Are shit tests effective in generating attraction?What people are missing is that these women are not going out “testing” the guys they meat in person. A lot of what OP claims are shit tests, like hugging a guy in front of you, aren’t done on purpose. If you react how you instinctively want to then it shows insecurity. Women in the comments have said stuff like what “idiot would see anything wrong here”. Guys get jealous and you think there’s something wrong with him if he is, so we teach men not to show jealousy. Other times it’s just question… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/22 02:12 PM |
| 5 | A cheating man is worse than a cheating womanThis is toxic | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/22 12:40 AM |
| 3 | Do your partners know your n count?Notch count i.e. number of past sexual partners . Typically defined by penetrative sex, but some people include oral. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/22 08:53 PM |
| 2 | Do your partners know your n count?I’ve seen a lot of responses that neither of us care, this a trend. I wonder if they actually don’t care, or would rather just assume that it’s low. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/22 03:21 PM |
| 4 | Are "post-wall off the CC" women forcing men to date them or something? What's with the hate against them .I think some of the hatred comes from the fact that you really don’t know who’s been on the CC or not. Imagine if someone lied about their income when dating. Actually more accurate would be they took you to really expensive restaurant that their family owned for the first couple dates to make themselves appear far wealthier than than they actually are. They didn’t do anything necessarily, wrong but now that you’re in a relationship him being broke is a problem. Not to even mention most girls li… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/22 05:30 AM |
| 4 | Going to the gym won't really change muchYeah most fighters can beat most average people in a fight, but even fighters fight in weight classes. In common fights the biggest factor is size and strength. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/03/22 09:57 PM |
| 4 | Going to the gym won't really change muchSTATISTICS https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Body-mass-index-BMI-and-mean-sex-partner-number-for-heterosexual-men-and-women-Means_fig2_283199925 Statistics on BMI and Number of Sexual Partners. # of sexual partners for men is highly correlated for men, but not necessarily women. (Attractive women can have less partners because they’re able to get the highly desirable men into relationships, but I digress). The general trend shows that men who are skinny or overweight are significantly less att… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/03/22 09:55 PM |
| 1 | Q4M: Do you have very many positive relationships with women? How does this effect your perspective?You my friend need the red pill | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/03/22 06:00 AM |
| 1 | Women who say the want a "HVM", why don't you all ever mention what YOU bring to the table other than "WAP"- which is standard on all women?This if for LTR Attractive (obv). Our personalities and interests can’t be too far apart. The biggest thing is that we want to know that you are all ours. Exclusivity, beyond just saying it. Don’t entertain other men on instagram. Don’t keep a line of “friends”(backups) on your snapchat. I don’t want to see you and your friends going out to clubs every weekend with different dudes. No girls trips to Miami. Don’t walk around every dressed super provocatively. Hard for us to figure out, but don’t … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/03/22 01:53 AM |
| 5 | How do men rationalize the belief that they are superior to women in every way, while also believing that women are inherently more valuable then menTbh men just don’t want anything else from women. On a macro and individual level. A man can make his own money, protect himself, plan his own life. The only real reason he wants women is because they can help him reproduce. I understand that women want to be seen for things other than sexual utility, but really it is only sexual that matters for life. Everything else that men do was just to support sex and reproduction. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/22 11:09 PM |
| 3 | How do men rationalize the belief that they are superior to women in every way, while also believing that women are inherently more valuable then menBingo. It feels like society forces us into the position, but then we go and perpetuate this dynamic anyway with or without knowing. We consciously pay for dates, fund our family, treat our women because ultimately we want women in our lives and this is what we have to do. We even do it subconsciously. Because status grants us resources and resources grant us women and women grant us reproduction, we have evolved to chase status, wealth, and power. We don’t even consciously realize that we’re ch… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/22 11:04 PM |
| 1 | How do men rationalize the belief that they are superior to women in every way, while also believing that women are inherently more valuable then menMen are superior if you exclude the ability to reproduce in your comparison. The ability to reproduce is the most valuable thing to any animal. Typically reproductive capability is excluded in the same way a large inheritance make someone considered a good businessman. The notion that it doesn’t count if you’re just born with it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/22 10:55 PM |
| 1 | How do men rationalize the belief that they are superior to women in every way, while also believing that women are inherently more valuable then menThe fundamental exchange between men and women is resources and protection for sex and consequently children. Women are born with the ability to reproduce. Resources, strength, and status(indicator of resources) must be acquired. Women, assuming they’re healthy, are born with reproductive capabilities and are able to leverage that to get everything else they need from men. It really is biological. Biologically speaking our ultimate goal is to reproduce. Men on a psychological level need sexual v… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/22 10:51 PM |
| 1 | From Gamer Nerd to Dating Coach? Is Nick Notas a good alternative to PUA/Redpill?This is very clearly an AD. Can a Mod take this down. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/22 10:25 PM |
| -1 | the reason why there's less female government representation and a gender gap in wages is because of hypergamy, not "the patriarchy"Men have zero legal right to decide anything wether to abort or not, so I don’t get your point. My position on abortion is a unique one as I see it as just a very arbitrary thing. At some point between conception and birth “the baby” switches from being a part of a woman’s body to being its own person. Nature did not draw a line between body part and being, so it’s really a very arbitrary debate. I believe women should have control over their own bodies, but this doesn’t address the fundamental … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/22 05:12 AM |
| 6 | the reason why there's less female government representation and a gender gap in wages is because of hypergamy, not "the patriarchy"This is the what current statistics point towards. Women are similarly matched to men in income from the ages of 22-30, when typically kids is not a factor. The pay gap is different fields in linked to the ability of the jobs to be adapted to a life with kids. Researches who’s work is flexible don’t see a large gap, while lawyers who need to be available for 60-80hrs a week typically aren’t. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/22 04:40 AM |
| 4 | the reason why there's less female government representation and a gender gap in wages is because of hypergamy, not "the patriarchy"Most millionaires are self made. Inheritance money is not is common as you think. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/22 04:37 AM |
| 2 | What’s something you think you know about the opposite sexes behaviour that they might not realize is happening within their own gender?Well we have very complex monkey brains that have also realized that A. reputation is important B. being there for children is important Evolution happened on both a population and individual level often with traits competing in a sense. A tribe of people with no compassion that just killed each other to solve problems wasn’t likely to survive. Even though it could be individually beneficial for one person to kill someone else. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/03/22 10:22 PM |
| 1 | What’s something you think you know about the opposite sexes behaviour that they might not realize is happening within their own gender?It’s not about literally having impact on evolution. It’s about making sure our genetic material gets passed on, which is really all our monkey brains care about | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/03/22 06:11 PM |
| 1 | Obsession with makeup comes from a need to be better than menYou are designed to have and take care of children. That is basically it. For most of history if society was to survive you spent most of your adult like pregnant and likely died in the process. Working as a team and being caring is way better for caring for children. As much as you’d like to think you were meant to do more, you’re not(I’m not saying you can’t the world is extremely different now). Fundamentally you are designed to extract value. Why do you think women like wealthy men, men with… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/03/22 02:12 PM |
| 2 | Obsession with makeup comes from a need to be better than menWomen generally “feel a pressure” in a way I don’t think we men can relate to. Women subconsciously care way more about what people think of them, because they are designed to be extract value from others. Most evolutionarily successful (had enough babies) women spent most of the their lives pregnant and were often to weak to really fend for themselves. (I know the world today is different). Women had to attain their resources and support from men and even other women which is why they have high… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/03/22 06:36 AM |
| 1 | What’s something you think you know about the opposite sexes behaviour that they might not realize is happening within their own gender?Our emotions to a large degree come from our genetics. Genes that help us to reproduce are more likely to be passed on. Over time humans developed emotions and traits that help us to reproduce. Actually that is literally the only purpose of genetics, is to help us to reproduce and survive, because that how those traits stay in the gene pool. The traits/genes are always in competition with each other. So genes/emotions that tell us to seek out sex and intimacy are clearly helpful for this. Essent… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/03/22 03:09 AM |
| 5 | What’s something you think you know about the opposite sexes behaviour that they might not realize is happening within their own gender?It’s evolutionary psychology. Basically it’s the science of emotions. Emotions are developed through natural selection, and emotions that push us to reproduce help those emotions get passed on. We have an innate emotional need for sexual intimacy and validation. That is the basics of evolutionary psychology it gets way more complex. So yeah our purpose in life is to reproduce and we can’t just act like it’s not and we’ll not feel the desire to be sexually validated and intimate. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/03/22 01:41 AM |
| 8 | What’s something you think you know about the opposite sexes behaviour that they might not realize is happening within their own gender?Yes and no. There is more but it one of those things that we need to be happy. Why would our brains be happy if we’re essentially failing our main mission evolutionarily. I don’t think women who almost of experience desire from the other sex really experience what it’s like. I just don’t think you can relate. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/03/22 09:51 PM |
| 3 | The reason men think women's attraction is complicated and intricate and easily lost is because most of them are only on the cusp of being attractive to a womanI don’t believe this narrative as much. Your dating pool slightly opens up. Men do develop into their 20s as well. There is all the effect where attractive people tend to pair up first because they’re attractive and the dating market generally works from the top down as well when matching people. I think more is that women hit the “epiphany”. When women are younger they’re more focused on their careers and “living life” so they really only want a relationship if it they stand to benefit greatly … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/03/22 03:38 PM |
| 11 | Is having a "hoe phase" important for maturing ?They definitely can learn a lot about men/women, what they like/dislike. Most come to the conclusion that it doesn’t provide long term satisfaction or enjoyment, but not all. I’m not saying that casual sex is necessarily wrong for everyone but most eventually conclude that it’s not the best way of life for them. You definitely gain memories and or experience just for the fun. It probably was fun to have had multiple partners or just a guy/gal that was really good looking. The question is does th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/03/22 03:14 PM |
| 3 | I'm looking to make a calculator/algorithm for figuring out "market value" for men. Looking for input.The best determinate of market value is the price that people are willing to pay. Going out and seeing who you can get. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/03/22 03:35 AM |
| 10 | The reason men think women's attraction is complicated and intricate and easily lost is because most of them are only on the cusp of being attractive to a womanI think psychological attraction threshold has actually risen for two reasons. Psychological attraction compares a man to herself to determine if he is admirable and attractive to her. Put shortly the man has to be more masculine i.e. confident, wealthy, taller, etc. Women have become more masculine today than ever. They’re lead to make more, be confident, be assertive, have careers, etc. This then raises their attraction thresholds. Second attraction will compare a man to the other men that wom… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/03/22 03:33 AM |
| 2 | Western women, western men and perceived valueThat’s not necessarily the part of those men that is inherently attractive, unless we’re talking about attracting women with serious father figure problems or past trauma. These abusive and negative traits just come along with the fact that he doesn’t value her as highly as himself. That is what is attractive, because it subconsciously indicates that he is above her in the dating market which fulfills hypergamy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/03/22 03:00 AM |
| 2 | Is following your nature a bad thing, and how do you circumvent the morality free will in the dating market?Yeah I don’t know who is downvoting just a citation to an scientific expert on the subject. Dr Buss is the expert on evolutionary psychology . TRP tends to take parts of evolutionary psychology and run with it and not put things in context. If you want to determine inner motivations and attraction you have to look at why those emotions developed and don’t just listen to TRP listen to the science behind it. Women are definitely more emotionally driven. Women were evolutionarily expected to be tak… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/22 06:45 PM |
| 16 | Wage GapThe wage gap is BS. Women are often doing better or equal to men until they start prioritizing families. This a general thing, but society has idolized white collar work so much. As there is less and less laborers they will be able to demand higher and higher pay so those willing to actually do something in the world only stand to benefit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/03/22 08:23 AM |
| 1 | Are women just more queer than men?You can’t really be bisexual as a guy. Women find any sort of gay and or feminine traits really unattractive. So you’re basically stuck either gay or straight. Also more pressure on men to be straight. I don’t have the answer and at first thought homosexuality really makes no sense from an evolutionary perspective. I remember hearing a while ago that it’s a different type of attraction closer to how friends will show affection through low levels of intimate contact. It’s similar wiring in the br… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/03/22 07:25 AM |
| 2 | If 90% of men died, and the 10% were average guys, would they be highly sought after?Women’s attractiveness psychology works in relativity. One they compare themselves to the men they date. They want men who are wealthier, stronger, taller etc than themselves. Second they compare the men to the best man that gives them attention i.e. hypergamy. They’ll be texting 10 men but only really want the top 1 out of all of them. They compare men to their fathers but that doesn’t matter that much. Men would probably still have to be better individuals than the women they date. But there w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/03/22 05:29 AM |
| 0 | Is following your nature a bad thing, and how do you circumvent the morality free will in the dating market?https://podclips.com/e/87b?ss=ios #16  explain why men and women cheat. Women don’t cheat for variety. Women cheat because they believe the other men are better mates than their husband, either completely or just genetically. Most of the time women completely fall in love with a different man. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/03/22 03:21 AM |
| 1 | Is following your nature a bad thing, and how do you circumvent the morality free will in the dating market?Not in marriage women don’t get to. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/03/22 03:19 AM |
| 0 | Is following your nature a bad thing, and how do you circumvent the morality free will in the dating market?Women cheating is a bigger problem than men cheating. https://podclips.com/e/87b?ss=ios Listen to the why women vs men cheat part of the podcast. Men cheat simply for variety. Women cheat normally because they aren’t satisfied with the current partner and typically fall out of love with their current partner and in love with the new partner. Women sometimes cheat without string emotional attachment because they simply want the better genes that other men have to offer. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/03/22 02:58 AM |
| 2 | Approaching guidelinesYeah It’s like you don’t want to be invisible, but you would be surprised how hard nonverbal ques are to read as a guy. I think women think they’re sending stronger signals either way then they actually are due to mens generally lower social IQs. It’s a definitely a small subset of men who ruin it for the respectful ones | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/03/22 04:40 PM |
| 1 | Approaching guidelinesIt was a general askreddit about what women would tell men if they could. It’s a simple hey I’m kind of busy right now and they walk away, but they act like they can’t get down the block without 100s of approached stopping them. Also I was thinking in public with a dog wouldn’t you feel quite safe. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/03/22 04:28 PM |
| 7 | Men & Women of PPD ratingThe ladies are so much better. They’re more attractive overall and also they look like they put more efforts. Lady #5 you are top tier | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/03/22 05:46 AM |
| 9 | Men & Women of PPD ratingThe women of PPD are definitely more attractive. For the men. I HOPE NONE OF THESE ARE YOUR DATING PROFILES THOUGH. Camera quality is extremely important for attractiveness, either get better cameras or hire a photographer. Angles matter too so I really would get a professional photographer that knows how to do portraits. It will make you look miles better alone. This would explain part of why men on here hate OLD so much. I’m going to do something unique and rate you on how much of your potenti… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/03/22 05:43 AM |
| 2 | What benefit do women have being more emotional than men?Women display more emotion because it’s assumed that someone else will solve the problem at hand. Reproductively successful women would historically spend their entire lives pregnant and raising children, which makes them extremely dependent on the people around them. Similar to how babies cry because they can’t do anything themselves and need their parents to do things for them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/22 08:01 PM |
| 1 | Q4All. Do you really believe there's a link between women having casual sex and societal decline?I would argue that modern medicine just allowed for the deprioritizing of motherhood. The trend existed but there were no consequences as long as survival rates increased to match. Now we’re at a point where survival rates can’t get much better at the trend of moving out is going to have consequences | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/22 02:54 PM |
| 7 | Q4All. Do you really believe there's a link between women having casual sex and societal decline?I think women are valuing themselves on a traditional masculine scale. Women today more value their careers, achievements, experiences, wealth, etc. They are taught to prioritize this over traditional feminine things such a being a good mother and wife. Such they have less children. Economics is blamed, but the richer countries get the less children they have. They simply don’t value having children and have the easy means to avoid it through birth control and abortions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/22 05:13 AM |
| 3 | I wonder where the disparity in attraction comes from between genders?Historically there has been twice as many sexually successful women as there has been men. Other species have it way worse, I think seals were 1 in 40. Marriage and monogamy changed this but not these are dissolving. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/22 03:11 AM |
| 2 | I wonder where the disparity in attraction comes from between genders?This is so true. I want my girl to dress up and look nice when going out. I’ll take a mediocre looking girl that knows how to dress up nice | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/22 03:07 AM |
| 1 | I wonder where the disparity in attraction comes from between genders?Testosterone levels dropping | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/22 02:51 AM |
| 3 | I wonder where the disparity in attraction comes from between genders?It’s more of the option existing for the validation then actually engaging in it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/22 02:43 AM |
| 5 | I wonder where the disparity in attraction comes from between genders?On a society wide level monogamy is best which is why it’s in just about every successful society in the world. On an individual level, if you can “beat the market” either as male have multiple partners or as a female have the best partner it’s betters That’s why societal structures like arranged marriages, monogamy, and sexual conservatism was so popular. Now the world is forgetting why we had these intuitions and boom population decline, big surprise. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/22 02:41 AM |
| 1 | I wonder where the disparity in attraction comes from between genders?A little different fore species like humans in that quality over quantity for women. Quality is what they need from men and for most of history they would share the quality men. Then this was banned through monogamy and now it’s back through hookup culture and dating multiple people even if it’s not just hookups. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/22 02:38 AM |
| 5 | What solutions would you guys propose?Let’s reword this. Target relationships. Work to keep relationship healthy, this is very different from being overly giving and being desperate. Looks max. Haircut, skincare, grooming, workout. Doing these exponentially increases SMV. I think a lot of men are also delusional to the women they expect to get. Have any of the men here tried approaching ugly women? Truly ugly women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/22 02:32 AM |
| 1 | What solutions would you guys propose?Apps like hinge and more serious apps are somewhat okay just don’t rely on them. Also they’re better as people get older and women start actively looking for relationships and the better men get taken off. I am not saying to wait until you are older, the options do not overall get better. I am also not saying that OLD should be your primary method. Max out your profile, get a photographer, get photos in good lighting and angles that highlight your features. If you’re skinny headshots, if you’re … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/22 02:22 AM |
| 3 | What solutions would you guys propose?It’s an anonymous survey,I’m sure people lie but not that many. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/22 02:12 AM |
| 2 | What solutions would you guys propose?Colleges are only down bc there’s not enough men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/22 02:11 AM |
| -1 | Why do women have more choices/are not that interested in relationships?What I’ve seen is that women don’t want relationships they want certain men. Women used to actively seek out a relationship because it was the only way to move up socially and just about everything you ever got or did came from marrying a man. Today women actively seek out a certain man. By this I mean a certain guy or class of guys that either materially changes their life i.e. significantly higher income, higher social status, plans dates etc. They also want that pure sexual desire, which most… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/22 12:44 AM |
| 1 | For the women. How long should a man wait for a girl to let him have sex with her ?A few reasons 1 They want to appear less promiscuous than they actually are. They sleep with guys they don’t like right away because they aren’t afraid to lose him. Unless you are something super special of a man then typically if she sleeps with you on the first night then she probably did it with a lot of other men. It subconsciously sets the relationship up differently. He invests more for sex and the subconscious hope is that investment stays high relative to sex. The idea being that if he g… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/22 12:25 AM |
| 1 | Question for BluePill - do you genuinely deny that women have a significant advantage, that men are regularly forced to settle below their SMV, and that women’s dual mating strategy and “the wall” exist?There is definitely a decent portion of men who just don’t have their life together, but it’s not as much as you think. These are basics but you failed to leave out a lot of things women want. 5-6 inches taller, make more money, somewhat muscular, perfect teeth, attractive facial structure, good family relationship, their own home, confidence, intelligent, vibrant social life, no disabilities, healthy skin, etc. Go to the supermarket and out of the men within 5 yrs of you count how many you see … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/22 08:14 PM |
| 0 | Question for BluePill - do you genuinely deny that women have a significant advantage, that men are regularly forced to settle below their SMV, and that women’s dual mating strategy and “the wall” exist?Social skills are underrated IMO, you have to be out meeting more people, that’s how you’re going to find the best girls. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/22 08:04 PM |
| 1 | Question for BluePill - do you genuinely deny that women have a significant advantage, that men are regularly forced to settle below their SMV, and that women’s dual mating strategy and “the wall” exist?These a very generalizations, there is unattractive women who will struggle, but it’s normally less. IMO, but I may be wrong. I think it’s easier to become attractive as a girl than a man. To be an attractive man you have to go to the gym, have an above average career, have solid social skills, have your own home, and can’t be short. This takes a lot of work compared to ordering some cute clothes from shein, losing weight, and makeup. I think there is a lot of men working very hard to try to be … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/22 08:02 PM |
| 1 | Question for BluePill - do you genuinely deny that women have a significant advantage, that men are regularly forced to settle below their SMV, and that women’s dual mating strategy and “the wall” exist?Run, run while you can | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/22 06:17 PM |
| 3 | Question for BluePill - do you genuinely deny that women have a significant advantage, that men are regularly forced to settle below their SMV, and that women’s dual mating strategy and “the wall” exist?This is it. I’d say at any moment dating market favors women, but it kinda evens out when women actually start looking for relationships because they want a family. Until then i.e. epiphany they are not looking for relationships they are looking for specific men. The top 20% of men, they just want him not the relationships itself actually. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/22 04:53 PM |
| 1 | Question for BluePill - do you genuinely deny that women have a significant advantage, that men are regularly forced to settle below their SMV, and that women’s dual mating strategy and “the wall” exist?I don’t think women experience the loneliness/emptiness that comes from having absolutely zero sexual validation and or romantic prospects. I think it’s part that men are wired to more strongly desire sex and intimacy. Part of it is that women are continually sexually validated even when single through social media, tinder, etc. A while ago there was a thread asking women how long of dry spells did they have it simply didn’t feel the same for women as men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/22 04:49 PM |
| 0 | Question for BluePill - do you genuinely deny that women have a significant advantage, that men are regularly forced to settle below their SMV, and that women’s dual mating strategy and “the wall” exist?You need to build a social life before you should even look at women romantically. I mean a social life where you go out at are introduced to new people men and female regularly. Plan something or go somewhere. It does not matter. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/22 04:42 PM |
| 2 | Question for BluePill - do you genuinely deny that women have a significant advantage, that men are regularly forced to settle below their SMV, and that women’s dual mating strategy and “the wall” exist?Don’t go places to meet women just build a social life. Let’s say there’s a big game for a sports team coming on, text your friends to come over for a watch party and tell them all to bring a date. Then socialize and make more friends. Being the person planning social events helps put you at the center of social groups where you can meet more people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/22 04:26 PM |
| 3 | Question for BluePill - do you genuinely deny that women have a significant advantage, that men are regularly forced to settle below their SMV, and that women’s dual mating strategy and “the wall” exist?Dating apps only work for some men, if not get to work irl. As people age and dating apps turn from either hookup apps or just fun things for boredom some women will come on there to look for serious relationships, so it doesn’t hurt to be on them. Don’t make it primary means of getting women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/22 04:22 PM |
| 4 | Question for BluePill - do you genuinely deny that women have a significant advantage, that men are regularly forced to settle below their SMV, and that women’s dual mating strategy and “the wall” exist?The male suicide thing is just that we pick more successful methods like guns or jumping rather then pills or cutting. Suicide is any way is still a problem. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/22 04:18 PM |
| 8 | Question for BluePill - do you genuinely deny that women have a significant advantage, that men are regularly forced to settle below their SMV, and that women’s dual mating strategy and “the wall” exist?There’s definitely not a shortage of men on the market willing to give commitment. There is a shortage of full stack attractive men willing to give commitment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/22 04:14 PM |
| 1 | "TRP wants traditional but undermines casual" isn't the gotcha you think it is. The end of traditionalism is a foregone conclusion. They're just trying to get theirs. "Enjoy the decline. "As everyone starts to settle down, the top men come off the market after spinning plates for years eventually girls will turn around to stable to decent men, you’ll finally find someone. You can pray that they don’t divorce once they realize the only thing you had was support for a family. I don’t know how bad they are with virgins at thirty, I would dodge the question and or get a prostitute. When you do find your girl there is a 100% chance she lies about her body count so why can’t you? I’d l… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/22 04:06 PM |
| 2 | "TRP wants traditional but undermines casual" isn't the gotcha you think it is. The end of traditionalism is a foregone conclusion. They're just trying to get theirs. "Enjoy the decline. "I’m honest af. A decent bit of is jealously and insecurity, like woman always want to point out. There is also legitimate concerns too. I’m the definition of beta bucks. I’m a decent person, not ugly, pursuing a tech job, emotionally healthy, have passions, etc. Im going to finally get a decent girl when she’s looking to settle only for her to have 30+ bodies or more and me sitting at maybe a couple drunk ONS at that point. In the meantime, I can either go for very bottom of the barrel chicks or… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/22 07:50 AM |
| 1 | Being "hookup material" is better than being "boyfriend material"When you’re not getting much sexual attention/validation the drug is like cocaine. The moment you realize a girl is into your entire body takes off. It has to be the best feeling I’ve ever had, way better than the orgasm itself.A lot of men never experience seeing that pure desire from a woman. I’ve been lucky to experience it a few times but not regularly when some men do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/22 04:41 AM |
| 2 | Question for coupled people: Where did you meet your partner?This has to be the worst place to be looking for a LTR | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/03/22 10:02 PM |
| 2 | People with siblings of the opposite gender, did it influene your view on who has it easier?My sister was better socially and better looking than I am. A lot of this was the pressure mothers put on their daughters to look good that they don’t necessarily push onto their sons. I think if I had been told to value my appearance earlier that would have helped. My sister all throughout high school had orbiters. A snapchat from top to bottom of them, all just waiting for her. She claimed they were all “just friends”. Once I couldn’t take her home so her “friend” turned around from halfway ac… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/03/22 02:29 AM |
| 1 | Is it truly possible for a woman to desire you when you don't have the right body type?I’m in a similar spot, 19 yrs old 5’8” 135lbs. I’m not quite stick and bones but my arms are small and legs thin. I’m a distance runner so it’s very difficult to put on weight although I’ve found you can get a little just by eating more. I’ve been looks maxing in other ways. I’ve been lucky enough to experience female lust towards me just not consistently. Man is seeing a girl lust for you a drug like no other. That shit must release cocaine in your brain. I don’t experience this often and I fee… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/22 10:18 PM |
| 3 | Is it truly possible for a woman to desire you when you don't have the right body type?Getting a job that requires a skill you want is a great way to get any skill. Don’t know how to socialize get a job that involves lots of socializing. I had a cousin go from skinny to strong working for a pool cleaner. I put on a decent bit of strength rowing from lifeguarding. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/22 09:48 PM |
| 1 | To the women who get upset at bitter men what's your longest dry spell?Every guy no matter what they do can not be chad. You can become attractive enough to get some attention, but you need a decent volume in my opinion to find a good girl | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/22 09:37 PM |
| 1 | Men in marriages where the woman makes more money are more likely to cheat on their wives. What is driving these pressures?I wonder if he actually was using any different then how women use men for their finances. I’m taking even in healthy relationships men are typically contributing more, buying expensive gifts, buying food, etc. Is it just that women are not comfortable being the provider because they’re not evolutionary intended to be the provider. The dynamic of female provider might just not work. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/22 02:57 PM |
| 1 | To the women who get upset at bitter men what's your longest dry spell?Some are or what they’re going to get isn’t even worth it. 5’1” indian dude with very little even basic social skills and ugly face is just so low even if they completely looksmax they may get a bottom of the barrel woman and not have the abundance to be able to select for certain qualities that are conducive for relationships. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/22 02:52 PM |
| 0 | To the women who get upset at bitter men what's your longest dry spell?Some men are a lost cause for relationships. Still worth a try because you only live once and the things that improve your ability with women; confidence, fitness, financial stability, looking decent, and charisma are also things that just generally make your life better. My opinion is almost all men can improve themselves to a point to find someone for a LTR, most with the effort can even get someone half decent and have a few options. Becoming “chad” and having the abundance to choose who you … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/22 02:48 PM |
| -1 | To the women who get upset at bitter men what's your longest dry spell?Easier said then done. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/22 02:24 PM |
| 3 | To the women who get upset at bitter men what's your longest dry spell?It’s about numbers and what’s beneficial. Yes men do pair bond aka fall in love because it’s important to make sure children survive, but there’s no evolutionary penalty to having sex and leaving, assuming there are more options. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/22 05:20 AM |
| 8 | To the women who get upset at bitter men what's your longest dry spell?There are patterns and trends that exist. I’m not saying everybody is a clone of each other. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/22 05:08 AM |
| 11 | To the women who get upset at bitter men what's your longest dry spell?44,000 years is not that long evolutionarily. Most of human history is pre-civilization. The sole purpose of our emotions is to survive and reproduce. An example is woman generally get emotionally attached to men after having sex with them, because historically it normally meant she could be pregnant and would need a man to supply to her. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/22 04:56 AM |
| 4 | To the women who get upset at bitter men what's your longest dry spell?No because women never really had to develop an emotional drive for sex per say. There has always been someone willing or trying to have sex with her. There is plenty of other emotional reactions she has, but not being able to get sex isn’t one of them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/22 04:50 AM |
| 3 | "TRP wants traditional but undermines casual" isn't the gotcha you think it is. The end of traditionalism is a foregone conclusion. They're just trying to get theirs. "Enjoy the decline. "I want children at some point, which IMO requires commitment. Also is it is the only way most men will ever get any consistent amount of sexual intimacy. No I’m not under the category of sex being the only part of a relationship, but is one of those things you have to get somehow. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/22 04:35 AM |
| 2 | To the women who get upset at bitter men what's your longest dry spell?I just said it was normal and healthy. Woman having wider hips then men is normal, but the reason is because babies grew such large heads that hey had to be. Evolutionary psychology is just the reasoning behind it. Fundamentally the only purpose of anything is for it to exist. For humans to exist they have to reproduce. Evolutionary psychology defines the instincts of ourselves. We are also partially adaptable and that typically comes from traditional psychology i.e. trauma and childhood environ… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/22 04:32 AM |
| 1 | To the women who get upset at bitter men what's your longest dry spell?I don’t think dry spells are relatable between men and women. For men it just feels different since we’ve always had evolutionary and consequently emotional pressure to be reproducing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/22 04:23 AM |
| 3 | To the women who get upset at bitter men what's your longest dry spell?Most TRPers are not the ones spinning plates. If they were already spinning plates they wouldn’t be TRPers. As it’s basically men’s evolutionary purpose to reproduce, I think we crave sexual intimacy in a way women don’t. An involuntary dry spell for us feels horrible. It’s just a core emotional thing. Evolutionarily a man being told he’s not worthy of anyone having sex with him is the equivalent of telling him and his genes that they’re not worthy of existing. I think for women good sexual inti… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/22 04:21 AM |
| 13 | "TRP wants traditional but undermines casual" isn't the gotcha you think it is. The end of traditionalism is a foregone conclusion. They're just trying to get theirs. "Enjoy the decline. "TRPers want to enjoy casual sex and then settle down. They can’t enjoy casual sex, but deal with the consequences. The idea behind the red pill is that a casual sex open market place (especially an efficient one i.e. tinder), affords casual sex to a small percentage of men and a large volume of woman. Part of the spite is pure jealousy towards women. “Why does she get to enjoy all of this casual sex when I don’t” Part of it, is that they then have to deal with the “used up” product. People matur… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/22 04:12 AM |
| 12 | "TRP wants traditional but undermines casual" isn't the gotcha you think it is. The end of traditionalism is a foregone conclusion. They're just trying to get theirs. "Enjoy the decline. "I’m not saying they don’t want to enjoy casual sex and then settle down. They can’t enjoy casual sex, but deal with the consequences. The idea behind the red pill is that a casual sex open market place (especially an efficient one i.e. tinder), affords casual sex to a small percentage of men and a large volume of woman. Part of the spite is pure jealousy towards women. “Why does she get to enjoy all of this casual sex when I don’t” Part of it, is that they then have to deal with the “used up” pr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/22 04:09 AM |
| 3 | CMV: The only reason women claim that men only want to fuck them and not be in a relationship is because the bottom 80% of men that DO want a relationship are invisible to womenI think in a sense you have to stop thinking from a macroeconomic perspective to a micro economic one in a sense. Girls don’t really feel loneliness in a sexual sense like men do. For most of history woman pursued relationships with men because they had social pressure and that’s how you moved up in society as a woman. Many woman have their own finances and society doesn’t push them to get into relationships. Trying to fit their own lives into someone else’s can be difficult. If they wanted pure… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/22 02:46 AM |
| 1 | What is the best route for autistic men to take in regards to dating?It depends on the degree to which you’re on spectrum. Idk if I’m on the spectrum at all or not, but I’ve always missed a lot of social ques growing up. I also can’t recognize or recreate sarcastic tones. and I ended up on purple pill debate so… For me I learned social behaviors like learning any subject. I watched endless youtube videos on being social, what to say, tone of voice, etc. I slowly implemented those things because I was afforded very social jobs and sports. So I do think you can imp… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/22 01:24 AM |
| 3 | This idea that women are racking up high body counts at a young age is greatly exaggerated, most women have fewer than 10 sexual partners in their entire livesI googled this and it’s a true thing.Very interesting | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/22 12:57 AM |
| 6 | This idea that women are racking up high body counts at a young age is greatly exaggerated, most women have fewer than 10 sexual partners in their entire livesnot particular to this case, but self reported statistics can be used for trends better than single data points. If I were to poll #of partners and height actually # of partners would be off, but the trend would still exist assuming there’s no logical reason for a correlation between height and likely hood to lie about # of partners. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/22 12:54 AM |
| 14 | CMV: The only reason women claim that men only want to fuck them and not be in a relationship is because the bottom 80% of men that DO want a relationship are invisible to womenthis is it, we want relationships, but woman simply don’t anymore because we’ll most men have nothing to offer, outside of pure lust which few men can generate in women | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/03/22 09:57 PM |
| 1 | What are “shallow” but necessary traits to look for in a partner?Attractive, least “shallow things being weight, cleanliness. Then decent face structure, balanced proportions. Even to not have disabilities or visually apparent injuries. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/03/22 07:28 PM |
| 1 | Men have no problem waiting for sex as long as other men had to alsoI’m just saying that we have out preferences romantically and it’s not your right to change them, only adapt. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/03/22 06:39 PM |
| 1 | Men have no problem waiting for sex as long as other men had to alsoWell stop by turned off by short scrawny men. Height and strength has no practical uses today. Your man no longer has to be able to fight off any threats in hand to hand combat. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/03/22 06:19 PM |
| 1 | Men have no problem waiting for sex as long as other men had to alsoMen are naturally repulsed by the idea of high N count woman. The reason we have this is because historically it was harder to tell if a baby was actually yours so we gained a preference for woman who we know that it will be ours. There was no genetic testing and the entire tribe looked very similar. It was regular for men to be straight up cucked. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/03/22 05:46 PM |
| 1 | Men have no problem waiting for sex as long as other men had to alsoSex does not physical taint woman, no the vagina does not get looser. As long as your STD tested and not pregnant. Arguable that sex taints woman emotionally. Does it set a higher standard for later men? As TRPers will say she settles for beta bucks but still longs for “chad”. Does it slowly disconnect the ideas of sex and relationships preventing pair bonding? Do all of these past emotional connection promote “baggage”? Statistics on this are not very accurate there is a lot of other factors th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/03/22 06:51 AM |
| 1 | Redpillers/blackpillers are doing exactly what they complain aboutIf you don’t like your life change it now. If you’re not physically attractive go to the gym, get new clothes(not even name brand, just fitting and matching), get a haircut that fits your face. Eat more, a lot more. I’m high metabolism plus high cardio so I have to be full at all times though the day. If you’re not meeting woman you have to actively find ways to get out of your house. I suggest without the explicit purpose of meeting woman. Join community service, coed sports leave, go to a fair… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/03/22 06:09 AM |
| 4 | Do you care if your daughter is sexually active?The sad part is woman chase love that replicates their parents so…. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/22 05:25 AM |
| 1 | So what's the solution for men below the top 20% attractiveness who can't find a relationship?They value these men for ONS. When they start actively looking to settle down they go on their own league. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/03/22 11:23 PM |
| 1 | A lot of guys here mistake chubby women for being unattractive and being in the same league as chubby men.relationship market value | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/03/22 11:13 PM |
| 3 | Why in humans there is more patriarchy rather than matriarchy accross multiple different cultures or societies?“oppression” in the masculine world view. Yeah they were held back from grinding their life away through labor and careers, but they were enable to be mothers and raise children. Depends on your view of it. Historically there is twice as many female ancestors as male ancestors. One male can supply enough sperm for many many woman. The value of something is only based on how easy to replace it is. Men have to generate value in other ways i.e. doing basically everything else. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/03/22 08:34 PM |
| 3 | Why in humans there is more patriarchy rather than matriarchy accross multiple different cultures or societies?I think for most of history the “oppression” of woman was simple necessity. You were going to spend your entire adult life pregnant and raising children, you couldn’t leave the house. Technological advancements allowing the control of pregnancy, decreased infant mortality, and longer lifespans meant that woman no longer have to be in the home. They can pursue careers and other things. I think the problem came when we started to integrate the sexes and woman joined the workforce they began to ran… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/03/22 07:30 PM |
| 2 | Why in humans there is more patriarchy rather than matriarchy accross multiple different cultures or societies?Evolutionary females are the “base” sex, they are the ones who drive the reproduction of a species hence they’re more important. Men are simply a variant of woman that is designed to serve the needs woman. I think women are the leaders of all societies whether it’s recognized or not. Everything that men do is either consciously or subconsciously is to eventually get a mate. Different societal structures essentially competed with each other for the best to survive over human history. The capacity… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/03/22 05:42 PM |
| 2 | I think the vast majority of frustration and anger comes from.high expectations. We need to work on lowering that for general happinessWhen foreign men come here they’re lusted over too. To a degree it’s the fact that he’s novel, unique, and exotic. Other countries, especially developing, idealize American life. It’s the status of being American. Regular men in those countries do not have it any better. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/03/22 05:12 PM |
| 1 | There is not a shortage of single men who have their life in orderI think for our Physic intimacy is essential because it emotionally represents reproducing. Not necessarily actually having kids. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/03/22 04:06 PM |
| 1 | The reason women appear like vapid whores is due to statistics, most women are decent just like men.I think younger woman aren’t actively on the dating market when they’re younger. They don’t really feel any need to find a partner until they’re ready to settle to down. They may be open to relationships if someone attractive just enters their life, but the bar for this pretty high. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/03/22 04:06 AM |
| 1 | Do most guys have to change who they are to be attractive to women?I think the advice should be, be the most attractive version of yourself that you enjoy being. It also depends for LTR vs hookups. Acting as someone completely different from yourself for one night isn’t that taxing. Acting as someone completely different for years can kill you inside. Or you stop the show after a while and she looses interest in you. People who use emotional manipulation and “game” to attract girls for LTRs often end up with woman with toxic problems that make them susceptible … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/03/22 03:26 AM |
| 1 | Women claim they wear makeup “for themselves” but they clearly do it to increase their SMV, which affords them immense privilege and attention they would not otherwise receiveMen: Want good looking woman. Men: Complain that woman wear makeup to look good. I would hope my future wife puts effort into looking decent, because I also put effort into looking decent. On the common notion that woman wear makeup for themselves and not men, I do believe that’s true. Indirectly I think woman evolved to care about appearance because appearance was essential to attracting a good mate. A what came first the chicken or the egg scenario. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/03/22 03:04 AM |
| 1 | Until feminine attributes are no longer connected with inferiority and being under a man, more women are going to reject traditional femininityWoman are joining what was traditional the “male world”. They are now ranking themselves on the male scale. How much money can you make. Can you be assertive. Do other people respect you? How independent are you? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/03/22 01:50 AM |
| 1 | There is not a shortage of single men who have their life in orderWe as living things have the goal of survive and reproduce. You can’t tell me we’re not emotionally programmed to want to reproduce. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/22 10:52 PM |
| 2 | Q4All - What does everyone thing about the Harry Met Sally-esque “men and women can’t be friends”?I think the notion stems from attractive woman who have a lot of orbiters who are actually aren’t true friends. They either consciously or subconsciously convince themselves that they’re just friend because they still get the benefits and attention that friends bring. Men can suppress their pure sexual attraction and actually be friends, but it can be hard to discern which ones actually want to be friend and which ones don’t. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/22 10:51 PM |
| 1 | There is not a shortage of single men who have their life in orderLook up Mazlo’s hierarchy of needs. Sexual intimacy is considered an essential part of happiness. I don’t think woman experience this as strongly as they never needed motivation to seek our men as that was always abundant. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/22 03:45 PM |
| 1 | There is not a shortage of single men who have their life in orderBeing alone is rough. It’s literally half our purpose on this planet. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/22 10:47 PM |
| 1 | The rapid societal decline in sex and relationships is solely due to women's lack of interestI think society is just now realizing that you don’t need a man for survival, because the world has changed. For most of human history woman spent most of their lives pregnant and or raising children which forced them to need a man. What you call “oppression” was just the social standard that you needed a man from when times before when you actually did. I would argue a man is still necessary for raising a family. This is a smaller and less burdensome part of your lives now. Many woman are not c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/22 07:52 PM |
| 1 | The rapid societal decline in sex and relationships is solely due to women's lack of interestI’m there rn. It’s not impossible, but man does it suck. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/22 07:38 PM |
| 1 | You should pay for what you order when going on a first dateI think the primary conflict in who pays stems from the difference in how men vs woman read the exchange. Men view it literally as a payment with nothing in return. This view is frustrating. Woman view it as a reflection of the attitude the man has towards her. Does he value me and think I’m special. Most woman do not view him paying as saving 30$. They view it as him liking me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/22 05:09 AM |
| 1 | Effect of heightOne of the common things mentioned is the effect that height has on men. This is research on reported number of sexual partners against height. I am aware that self reported sexual partners is very inaccurate, but the trend should still be very accurate. To assume that trend is inaccurate, you’d have to assume that there is a strong correlation between height and likely hood to misreported #of partners in a given direction (unlikely). There is definitely an effect of height, but mainly for the v… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/22 01:13 AM |
| 8 | Do most guys have to change who they are to be attractive to women?Yes. Most of the things woman want in a man are things men naturally want anyway though. Financial stability, respect, health, social skills, etc. Its kind of naturally this way, which is why TRP gets away with the “do it for yourself” ideal. This is not by chance, men were literally designed to be want to be what females want. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/22 02:15 AM |
| 12 | What do you think the rule should be for who pays on the first date?This is good advice. Attract people who want relationships similar to how you want. You will lose a lot of woman if you try to split on the first date. I’d say pay on the first date, but pay attention to if she offers to pay (many girls will offer to pay, but really don’t expect to pay). Second date take her up on paying and see her reaction. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/22 02:09 AM |
| 1 | As multiple studies suggest, High n count is a red flag for both genders. Impulse control is a preferable quality for marital stability and has nothing to do with gender.Getting casual sex is purely based on your ability to generate pure sexual lust from someone else. It’s a lot easier to turn men on than it is for woman. Woman are pickier so they all tend to choose the same subset of men when having casual encounters | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/22 02:02 PM |
| 5 | Why do people use the term "deserve" within an entirely free social dynamic like dating?Interesting debate here. Relationships are about as essential to happiness as other things we consider human rights. We need differentiation between the idea of deserving something because of something someone brings to the table. “I deserve a woman who smells good, because I smell good” We can also deserve relationships and certain qualities, because it’s needed for happiness. Treating relationships like a human right. “I deserve to have someone who loves me” The second deserve was solved in so… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/02/22 03:28 PM |
| 4 | With access to easy sex, it is up to women to control their n countsIt is natural. If we are going to put our resources into a woman, it better be our kid that we’re raising. The social standards stemmed from the emotions, not the other way around. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/02/22 03:18 PM |
| -1 | With access to easy sex, it is up to women to control their n countsParty, there is a natural repulsion to high n-counts, and a logical correlation between high N-counts and problems/divorce/cheating. You are right partly it’s from men that aren’t having sex. Resentment and or insecurity, towards the fact that these woman have had more sexual experiences and casual encounters. Casual sex is something most woman experience, but only few men ever get to experience. If a man had just as many or more partners he probably wouldn’t care so much to the logical problems… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/02/22 03:17 PM |
| – | For men, lowering your standards is a much better dating strategy than self improvement.You can definitely improve yourself. Simple things like matching clothes, 5 min skincare routine, cologne, enough sleep, social skills, and posture. You can realistically get or improve all of these traits easily in a month. Regardless of if you’re doing it “for yourself” or “for woman”, it improves your life and your ability to find a woman, which in turn improves your life anyway. There is a point where the return on investment isn’t worth it. Self improving to a point where you can consistent… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/02/22 03:11 AM |
| – | For men, lowering your standards is a much better dating strategy than self improvement.I just say admit when you’re doing it for yourself and when you’re doing it to be more attractive. If you’re powerlifting bc you enjoy powerlifting then for yourself is fine. And the woman that come along are only a plus. If you’re watching a hundred youtube videos on how to build the most attractive jawline, accept that you are doing this for woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/02/22 02:51 AM |
| – | For men, lowering your standards is a much better dating strategy than self improvement.IMO, you need a partner to really be happy. Sociologically our pure purpose on this earth is to survive and reproduce. Essential to reproduce is having woman in your life. Look into Mazlos hierarchy of needs. It’s the things considered important for one to be happy. Depending on the version, pure sex is as important to one’s happiness as food and water. All versions have sexual relationships as very fundamental. Our brains want us to reproduce and will only be satisfied if we feel like we are, o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/02/22 02:46 AM |
| – | For men, lowering your standards is a much better dating strategy than self improvement.I really agree with this. Self improvement is necessary to a degree, even if it’s not just “for you”. You need to be someone a potential partner would want, if you want a partner that is what you want. It isn’t worth it. The end goal is too have a good life, and a good woman is an important part of that. Some men destroy their own lives, in an attempt to be the absolute perfect man. Yeah technically opening up your emotions to a partner reduces attraction, but having someone to open to was an es… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/02/22 02:38 AM |
| 1 | The most attractive women I know tend to be the nicest and most groundedI a suspicion that if you work to make yourself attractive that’s because you care what people around you think of you. If you care what people around you think of you, then you’ll likely being kinder and nicer. Definitely an actual correlation here, but I don’t know the magnitude. This would also be really hard to study. But similar to makeup, the kindness these people show is often very unauthentic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/22 12:50 PM |
| 1 | Men should never completely open to women.You’re so focused is on how to be the perfect man for a girl, that you sacrifice building the perfect relationship for you. Okay some woman will lose some degree of attraction because you open up to them, but having someone to share your emotions and inner self with is more important. Definitely do not open up to a girl because you think that it will make you more attractive. Open up to your girl because it’s someone that you trust and want to open up to. If they can’t fill what you want in the … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/22 01:55 AM |
| 3 | Why go through a hoe phase instead of getting an LTR?With sex come feelings and you can’t fairly judge the person you’re with anymore. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/02/22 01:05 AM |
| 0 | The rapid societal decline in sex and relationships is solely due to women's lack of interestWoman don’t have to be in relationships anymore, especially while they’re young. The relationships that are enjoyable for woman require a man that makes them happy and horny. Due to their sexual nature it is hard to find men that are sexually appealing. Many woman hit a point in late 20s early 30s where they see the value in a family, but understand that even today a man is necessary. These lead to unhappy marriages. This is no new situation, but now woman have the liberation to divorce. As a so… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/22 02:30 PM |
| 1 | The rapid societal decline in sex and relationships is solely due to women's lack of interestI’m not saying this isn’t better. This builds a tension in society because while logically it makes sense, emotionally we’re not supposed to live like this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/22 01:29 PM |
| 1 | Until feminine attributes are no longer connected with inferiority and being under a man, more women are going to reject traditional femininityYou’re still looking relatively recently. For most of human history very few children survived, childbirth was dangerous, and people didn’t live past mid 20s. Woman would spend most of their adult lives pregnant, which leaves them in a completely dependent and vulnerable position. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/22 01:20 PM |
| 26 | Is it just me or do women nowadays have so many dating options that it makes it hard to be their first hand choice?If shes not really into you every part of it super difficult. She will give little effort. It will be a frame of her judging you. She will look for things wrong in you. And likely shell really want someone else anyway even if you do get into a relationship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/22 11:02 PM |
| 1 | Can a gap be better bridged between the Red Pill and the other people?Blue pill fufills the logical half of dating and relationships, while red pill fufills the emotional half. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/22 01:18 AM |
| 3 | Do men get any legal rights or benefits with legal marriage, that they couldn’t get without legal marriage?Look up thr tax brackets for married filling jointly vs single. Its exactly double, but you can effectively use your partners unused space at their lower brackets before filling at your top income bracket | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/01/22 08:35 PM |
| 1 | Do men get any legal rights or benefits with legal marriage, that they couldn’t get without legal marriage?My opinion. Marriage and relationships in general offer more benefit to woman. Financially, emotionally, logitically, and socially. Typically men bring more money. Men tend to be responsible for everything beyond children. Broken car, finances, house maintenance, transportation, paying for dates, shoveling snow, Christmas lights, pools, boats, trips are all typically the responsibility of the man. Marriage(monogamous) as a system benefits men. Throughout history only about half of men have repro… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/01/22 08:29 PM |
| 3 | Do men get any legal rights or benefits with legal marriage, that they couldn’t get without legal marriage?The tax brackets double for married filers. Also only the money after the threshold gets traxed at the higher rate. If there's an income gap in marriage more of your money will fit in the lower brackets saving you some money. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/01/22 08:19 PM |
| 1 | What are the physical traits of men you find the most important inorder for the men to qualify as your partner?Woman don't know dick sizes by measurements, unless theyve taken a ruler to all of their parters. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/22 02:02 AM |
| 1 | Is it possible to be naturally unattractive as a woman?I think attractiveness in terms of dating is pretty similar between men and woman. For casual relationships, men have it way harder because woman are more sexually selective. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/01/22 10:31 PM |
| 1 | What is the one common seduction theme or trick that has not played out in your experience?I think freindzone thing works because you can at least get your foot in the door. Most men aren't sexually attractive without some sort of established connection. If you approach with romantic intentions the odds are stacked against you. If aproach more platonically you can build a connection. I think key difference from the freindzone is that she has not already rejected you either directly or implicitly. Also I think treat the girl as if she is yourgirlfreind without saying it. (Not buying he… | /r/seduction | 04/01/22 06:49 AM |
© TheRedArchive 2026. All rights reserved.
created by /u/dream-hunter