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By all account I feel like I have it all, so I'm not sure why I'm being told this isn't possible. You are a rarity. Nowadays, most women in their 20s want to "live their best life", are not marriage minded or want to pursue other things and then in their 30s start looking for relationship stability which is what OP is postulating. Yours was a smart strategy - get a husband young, hold off on having kids for a couple of years while building your career and finances then have kids. I believe the h…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 07:24 PM
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She was fine with it. We had discussed finances and such earlier so it wasn't a surprise. Also, she got her own attorney to review it and make suggestions.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 11:17 PM
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It's a mystery. Even with the "pasts don't matter" issue. Everywhere else in life pasts matter (applying to college, applying to a job etc) but when it comes to relationships: "Pasts don't matter! You're insecure!"
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 06:40 PM
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Everyone has a prenup. If you don't sign your own, you still have the default one is your state law. Default state law where I live: Everything is split 50/50 My prenup: Everything in individual names goes to the individual regardless of when it was acquired. All titled items in joint names is split according to contribution. If I put down 20K and my wife puts down 80k for a house downpayment, then this would split 20/80 in the event of a divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 06:33 PM
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This is the harsh reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 06:57 PM
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What is the truth about men's hobbies and quirkiness? The truth is hobbies are just icing on the cake. The cake is how attractive you are. A 5'5" guy a ton of hobbies in the world will be overlooked in favor of the 6ft fit guy who collects stamps. And that can be painfully obvious when it comes to for example OLD. No one reads my profile text or ask anything related to it. OLD is all about what you look like. Many moons ago when I was on OLD my shirtless pic got the most likes and comments from …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 01:11 AM
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When I was single I only used to initiate the first date. The second date was on her to initiate and if she didn't I simply moved on.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 07:49 PM
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Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 06:58 PM
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All these are old articles. The one from last year paints a different picture. also more women are graduating college than men now so this is expected to continue to increase Graduating college doesn't guarantee high pay and doesn't guarantee women will enter into breadwinner relationships more. Today these same women are complaining about lack of economically attractive men. Better educated women still prefer higher-earning men
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 06:57 PM
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They discuss breadwinning women and their happiness. Not the number/percentages of breadwinning women vs men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 06:26 PM
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mizzouweekly - page not found 😂 ifstudies - speaks nothing about your claim
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 06:25 PM
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None of these studies corroborate your claim that Over 50% of women make more or roughly the same
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 06:23 PM
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She's likely getting it from here and she's skewing the stat. It says 16% are breadwinner wives, 55% are breadwinner husbands and 29% earn the same, where the definition of same is . Both the wife and husband earn between 40% and 60% of the couple’s combined earnings. So there's still a disparity in income. In this 29% it doesn't say if it's wives or husbands who earn more
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 06:17 PM
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Did you read your own source? It says 16%. 1/3 is 33%. 16% is not 33%
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 06:13 PM
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It's already happening. One third of American marriages the female makes more. Fake news. Hate to state the obvious but 16% is not 33%
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 06:08 PM
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I know facts are stubborn things and the truth hurts. Why do lesbian marriages have twice the divorce rate as gay male marriages? If men were the problem lesbian marriages would be thriving and lasting forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 12:36 PM
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Yes, because by the late 40s men are twice as likely to cheat as women Source? Lesbian marriages have twice the divorce rate of gay male marriages. If men were the problem, lesbian relationships would be thriving.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 12:29 PM
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Also women are fine with staying with 1 man our whole life; who cares if he becomes old and ugly. Men DO NOT Divorce stats in the US disagree with you. Women leave 70% of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 05:13 AM
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You mean like the evidence you provided for this? the vast majority of dudes here will not have enough assets to really need a prenup Gotcha.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 04:53 AM
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Proves nothing. Your claims were rebutted by majority of the posters on there. And unless you're clairvoyant(in which case you should play the Powerball) you can't back up this misinformation: the vast majority of dudes here will not have enough assets to really need a prenup Got it?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 01:14 AM
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Then get one. I already did. I'd be a fool to not get one and sign a contract that has no penalties for whoever breaks it. I'm just pointing out that what a lot of guys around here this divorce is like is completely separate from reality. So "the vast majority of dudes here will not have enough assets" to "what a lot of guys around here this divorce is like is completely separate from reality" just based on your imagination and no proof. Got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 06:01 PM
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the vast majority of dudes here will not have enough assets to really need a prenup. Bold statement. Do you know vast majority of dudes here? Can you see and determine their futures? And "enough" assets is relative. Prenups are cheap enough that anyone with a W2 job should get one. They also "force" couple to discuss finances which many people don't hence finances being the #1 cause of divorces.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 05:49 PM
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In the context of this sub, the vast majority of dudes do not have enough assets to really need a prenup, Prenups can cover assets acquired during the marriage. Just because you get married without assets doesn't mean it will stay like that forever. STEM students are a good example. and she, in turn, gets nothing in the event of divorce. That's not how prenups work; it would be thrown out. And any woman signing such a prenup has bigger problems anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 08:39 PM
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For well-drafted prenups. Everyone has a prenup whether they draft their own or not. Your default prenup is the law in your state. Mine for instance says everything is split 50/50 regardless of who contributed what and regardless of the reason for the divorce. Obviously I don't want that. Prenups help you and your spouse discuss finances. As part of the prenup process you are required to declare your assets and liabilities therefore things like massive debt can be brought to light before you tie…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 06:05 PM
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“Prenups typically outline only assets that are already obtained prior to marriage by either party. Any property acquired after the ceremony is typically considered jointly owned marital property. The equitable distribution of joint property will be determined during the divorce proceedings” (see source). They can also protect future earnings; even your own source says this. A simple way to do this is to state in the prenup that what's in each other's names belongs to them now and in the future.…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 05:33 PM
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Not to friend. Once you are in the friend zone it's like quicksand. Hard AF to get out. If you like her and want to date her, make sure you express that and if that doesn't work - no harm no foul - just move on. Don't waste your precious time waiting in the wings for something that might not be a sure thing. Go where you are wanted. If a woman likes you and sees value in you she won't make it difficult for you to be part of her life.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 02:24 AM
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high body count because it increases chance of divorce, but also advocates for large age gaps, which also increases chance of divorce? High chances of divorce is but one downside of high n count. Higher likelihood of trauma is another and so is the probability that the woman having STDs (I posted a link to this in another response in this thread). Furthermore, if viewed through an evolutionary lens another reason could be that it casts doubt on paternity. I don't think that the recent advent of …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 02:00 AM
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Could I ask how you determined that likelihood? I didn't. Studies did. Trauma? For who? The man dating a women with high body count? More likelihood of the high count individual to bring trauma with them. Women are also more likely to contract STDs than men so your are also playing russian roulette with that: Women have a higher risk than men of getting an STI during unprotected vaginal sex. Unprotected anal sex puts women at even more risk for getting an STI than unprotected vaginal sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 01:17 AM
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Higher chances of divorce, higher likelihood of trauma etc
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 12:58 AM
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A roster of women? Could you elaborate? Essentially juggling multiple women/not being exclusive. If you want the longer explanation you can read more here. So, if someone decides to add a polyamorous woman to their roster they can. Personally, spinning plates is not my style. So you’re saying that you don’t define body count as the amount of people she has uniquely had sex with? I'm saying body count doesn't factor in when a RP dude is just looking for sex or something casual. If looking for com…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 12:55 AM
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Red pill has a concept called "spinning plates" which is basically having a roster of women. Low body count requirement is for commitment not sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 12:45 AM
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In my jurisdiction you can get a prenup that stipulates no alimony so it makes no difference here.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 12:39 AM
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What do you mean support? and why is the onus on red pill for this?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 12:34 AM
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No. Just sounds like you are incompatible. You want 50/50 and ended up dating someone who wanted a provider in exchange for her performing household duties. 50/50 foreign women exist, just find one.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 08:12 PM
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Status - dating a foreigner elevates one's status in some of these places
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 08:05 PM
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In the context of "one's past shouldn't matter for relationships" cameron339 asked a valid question. Unless we want to pick and choose what aspects of the past matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 01:28 AM
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I think the true figure is much higher with judges stretching child support as backdoor alimony. Correct. And also sometimes it's rolled into the divorce settlement. Example: Instead of getting a settlement of $250,000 plus $2500 per month in alimony for 5 years, they get $500,000 and no alimony.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 06:15 PM
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I'm in support of no fault divorce. I don't want to be in a relationship with someone who doesn't want to be with me. The only issue I have is that often times, the person who didn't initiate gets punished. Can you think of any other contract in life where that happens? A tenant can break a lease any time they want but they will lose out on their deposit. I can quit my job any time I want but I'm not getting any form of severance from my employer. Now picture a world where the reverse is true: A…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 05:39 PM
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A study from 1990 using sources from 1980s and 70s. Awesome. Nothing in that document says full custody is almost always granted. Fathers who actively seek custody obtain either primary or joint physical custody over 70% of the time Keyword either. Could be 60/10 joint/primary, 65/5 etc. Nothing in that statement affirms they "almost always" get full custody.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 03:00 PM
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Exactly. But OP(in response to the comment before hers) is making it seem like any Tom, Dick and Harry can just file for full custody and get it. Most full custody wins I've seen for men have been against a very fucked up mother. However for women to get full custody the bar appears to be lower.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 02:28 PM
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Ah ok so you were spreading misinformation when you said "most states". Got it. The fight where by default you don't have 50/50 and have to pay lawyers thousands of dollars to avoid being a visitation dad. The fight where you want to get to see your child more than the Amazon delivery guy does. If your ex-husband can't remember your kids' names you have bigger problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 10:58 PM
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Most states are 50/50 default 20 states is not most. Majority of states are not 50/50 default including mine. If the mom doesn't want to do 50/50 by default, roll up your sleeves, get your credit cards and life savings ready and get ready to "fight".
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 10:36 PM
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Men who seek full custody almost always get it. Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 10:23 PM
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Even if you've got nothing going into marriage. This. I often hear many folks saying "we had nothing so there was no point in getting a prenup". Not knowing that a prenup can protect your future too - future 401k/pension, future debt, future earnings etc
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 05:16 PM
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1) You chose him 2) You stayed 25 years 3) and most importantly, this is only one side of the story. Let's hear his.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 01:16 AM
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You have no idea!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 01:05 AM
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I was with one abusive man for 25 years lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 12:42 AM
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Are men ever going to admit being the problem in relationship Are women? In hetero relationships women leave at 70% and in gay relationships, lesbians divorce rate is 3x higher than gay male marriages. I'm detecting a pattern here...
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 07:55 PM
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Keeper. The other traits you mentioned significantly outweigh the lack of sense of humor. and fails to make you laugh whatsoever... There are work-arounds to this. Attend comedy shows, hang out with your friends who are funny etc etc. ​ Remember most guys have little to no options in the dating market to begin with. If they started filtering by trivial things like sense of humor or her ability to do hand stands they would be left with nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 04:27 AM
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but with Bumble Bumble is reconsidering this women-message-first approach because "it seems like a burden": ...sending the first message feels like extra work in a sea of unsatisfying swipes rather than empowerment. One option lets women choose pre-composed opening lines when they set up their accounts, which reduces the anxiety of what to say to a new match. Another model could allow men to send the first message.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 01:58 AM
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Nailed it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 08:14 PM
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She's basically saying: "Until you make enough money to afford these trips I'm going to be going on my own! Sucks to be you!"
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 07:47 PM
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Without a doubt
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 05:55 PM
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Ah yes. It just so happens that women leave romantic relationships at highly disproportionate rates. Pure coincidence, no relation.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 09:13 PM
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than endure another year with a man they can’t stand to touch. Or woman. Lesbians file for divorces at almost 3x more than the rate of gay men. So this is not a "man sucks and woman has had enough" issue. Perhaps it's a "woman will leave relationships more regardless" issue
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 06:51 PM
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But you don't get to marriage if no relationship. And you do not get to a relationship if no dates. And you don't get dates if you don't meet the looks threshold. One of the reasons marriage rates are declining is financial. ​ I didn't say it's the very first thing that matters. But it's important enough despite women on this sub and thread downplaying it and painting themselves as righteous and foreign women as money-hungry, when western women also factor in income and it plays a major role in …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 05:10 AM
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To get there, need physical attraction. At that stage, money is not relevant. Money will become relevant at some point. If you think women are marrying broke or low earners en-masse you're not living in reality. Will they date you if you're hot and broke? Sure. But women still want security especially when it comes to marriage
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 09:37 PM
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Agreed. Red pill bros will tell you wait until your 30s and "wealthy" and the women will come running. LMAO red pill says no such thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 10:00 AM
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Sure but women themselves have told and shown us that they will/prefer to/continue to marry up income wise.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 09:10 AM
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If she’s cheaper you are doing less for her. The men that want to passport bro for “a better deal” don’t really see the partner they are getting as a partner, she’s just a commodity in his life. Someone he feels entitled to because he makes xyz money or has xyz career. Source? Otherwise this is just speculation. ​ Your spouse shouldn’t be chosen because you consider her cheap or on clearance Developing countries have a lower cost of living and also the women there are more traditional. They are …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 07:46 PM
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then going to a country where the women traditionally want men for their money and what they provide, but are okay with it because it’s cheaper. The difference is those women are also traditional according to PP bros. Nothing's wrong with cheaper. People moved from NYC, CA etc to TX, GA, PA and other low cost of living areas during the pandemic. Watch how people bum-rush the Walmart entrance during Black Friday to get those doorbuster deals. At my college if you wanted people to attend your even…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 06:54 PM
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​ …this is a dumb standard though. All things will never be equal between two different people. That’s the issue with this thought process. Sure, if all things were equal between two women, a man would chose the one that’s more attractive. Duh, if you have to choose between two people based off something and everything else is equal…what else would you judge based on? I'm aware of that. My point was that socio-economic class still has major income disparities and women are known for marrying up.…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 06:15 PM
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Being in the socioeconomic class still has income disparities. The middle class salary range is $55K-$89K. If a woman making $55K has choice between 2 guys, one making 50K and another making 85K with all else being equal she'll choose $85K guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 04:56 PM
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Western women are lamenting that they can't find marriageable men i.e economically attractive men. Moreover, decades ago western women married up both academically and income-wise. But currently even with the great strides women have made academically they still marry up income-wise but will marry down educationally.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 04:52 PM
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Because studies show most Western women marry men within their social class Marrying within your social class can still have income disparity. Middle class salaries range from $55K to $89K. Women only make less than men after she has children that she’s the main caretaker of. Women are steering clear of marriage because they can't find economically attractive men. Also in the last 40+ years even though women have achieved great academic success, they are willing to marry down in education but st…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 04:35 PM
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I watched this documentary a while back. Those women were really rawdogging those guys without a care in the world smh.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 02:29 AM
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"Nicole Young will walk away from the 24-year marriage with more than one-fifth of the rap icon’s fortune and roughly half of his liquid assets". "his(Dr Dre) net worth at $458.2 million, with $182.7 million of that sum in cash, $6.3 million in stocks, and $269.2 million in property and assets, including intellectual property." "(Nicole)Young will be required to move out of their Malibu beach house by the end of the month but will keep a Rolls Royce, Range Rover, Escalade limousine, and Spyder m…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 03:18 AM
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I mean will you? Dr Dre's ass was saved by a prenup. Same with Kevin Costner. I have friends who successfully had theirs enforced when they divorced. But they drafted their prenups the correct way. Saying that prenups are useless is disingenuous. All the things you mentioned are avoidable. e.g If a prenup was signed less than 21 days before the marriage. Prenups should be signed months in advance even before wedding plans are made. Hell, it should be signed even before engagement. A lot of peopl…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 01:57 AM
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If it works for them then that's all that matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 05:40 AM
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All the comments were women saying stuff about how they would never be a forever girlfriend and I only date to marry and shit like that. Something something 50% divorce rate something something 70% filed by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 05:34 AM
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they just up and decide they are done This can happen in a marriage. In fact it happens at an alarming rate. It's called no fault divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 05:32 AM
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Never said it was You mentioned it in this context of age-gap relationships. So then you mentioning it was pointless because it can happen in any relationship. I'm just pointing out the reality of huge age gaps, and what path that usually leads down. My experience is different. That's the beauty of anecdotes. But most men who try this, end up forever single men into retirement because these women generally tend not to be high quality.. Many men end up this way anyway regardless of age-gap given …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 06:09 PM
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overlap with being slutty and eventually leaving. This is not unique to age-gap relationships. but women in general just like financial security as the masculine is generally seen a providing and security part of the relationship. Exactly. Women can like what they want but for men there's all this extra scrutiny. "Is she mature enough?Her brain isn't fully formed yet" ,"Is he controlling her?" etc. Guys like youth and beauty. In this era of girl-boss independent women the need for financial secu…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 04:14 PM
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Women like that have issues What proof do you have that they have issues (other than anecdotal experience, of course)? This is highly insulting to her; just because her preferences don't line up with yours, "she has issues". For women who date guys taller than them do they have issues as well? How about those who are in a relationship with a man that makes significantly more than them, do these women have issues as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 04:32 AM
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dog piled here Lmao women on PPD are top-notch gaslighters. "Height doesn't matter. I've dated guys who were 5'8 I don't know why you guys are complaining. My current BF is 6'2 though and we are getting married this weekend."
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 04:22 AM
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Why are promiscuous men considered valuable but promiscuous women are trash? Because of the effort required to slay. Women are picky so if a guy is promiscuous he has something or some skill that women like enough for them to have sex and, by extension, risk pregnancy and STDs for him. This extends to other facets of life. Guys who make it to the NBA have some skills that regular guys don't have hence they get rewarded by getting drafted and paid a boatload of money. If a woman is promiscuous, t…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 04:49 AM
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Apt response for a wounded, defeated soldier in the simp, blue pill army.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 05:45 AM
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Reading is fundamental. I clearly said: But it's also you maintaining your boundaries.However all you can do is control what's within your control. You can't dictate what someone else does. Basically, (let me spell it out to you since comprehension is not your strong suit) you can have your boundaries but can't control what someone else does. I’m 40 years old with an N count higher than you can fathom. Good for you. Here's your cookie 🍪 It’s easy to get laid if you’re confident. You take care no…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 05:33 AM
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Smart woman
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 05:23 AM
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Flair checks out. It’s absolutely a sign of insecurity, and no modern relationship will survive it. Lmao it's not a sign of insecurity for having boundaries that differ from your BF/GF. If your GF wants to become polygamous and you didn't sign up for that, that doesn't make you insecure it makes you a non-simp and a backbone having MF. And she’ll find someone less insecure. Good. That guy will have the same principles as her. Good for him. He can sleep soundly as his wife comes home at 5am/6am f…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 05:17 AM
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I've been in your position before, literally. Met her, she was not a partier then later she became a party animal. I didn't think twice, I left.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 04:55 AM
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Yes it's controlling. But it's also you maintaining your boundaries. However all you can do is control what's within your control. You can't dictate what someone else does. Best thing here is to leave since you are no longer compatible.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 04:48 AM
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Fucking no.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 04:13 AM
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Did it work out for you? I'd say my success rate was 50%. Why do you think they were interested in you? I'm over 6ft tall with an athletic build so this made it easier. I also speak multiple languages and can flirt but not rich as the guys in the international city I lived in. If the women ended up losing interest in me, I didn't sweat it. That's part of the game. But I never sold myself short or second guessed myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 06:36 AM
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I have but I never viewed it as weird. I just rode the wave and shot my shot.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 06:16 AM
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I think men and women are already treated unequally and the legal system just needs to fess up already and admit men and women are not the same. Yes this seems to be the case. Miss, we are taller than you. I'm a 6'3" male Taller doesn't mean superior
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 06:12 AM
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Op is saying men are superior to women. I disagree. I agree that men and women are not equal e.g men are attracted to different things in women than women are attracted to in men. There's a reason sports are separated into genders - men's boxing, women's boxing etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 06:10 AM
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Why are you assuming they are high maintenance? You are looking a gift horse in the mouth. Shoot your shot, you'll never know until you try.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 06:01 AM
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Kudos!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 03:32 AM
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Just say no and if that causes problems that means you're incompatible. Leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 03:27 AM
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I agree that men and women are not equal - and what I mean is , men and women are built differently... not that men and women should be treated unequally or men are superior to women. I disagree with this: The correct idea should be that men are above women. This is faulty logic sir.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 03:23 AM
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Based on two examples. Right. And statistics. Average marriage duration is 8 years and the divorce rate is 50%, basically a coin toss for one of the most important events of one's life. Also 50% of children today are born out of wedlock
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 08:07 AM
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Better for what? That's the question But I just felt women in thirties are unnecessarily deemed less desirable A guy with options will likely pick younger girls. But women in their 30s are not doomed to sexless/incel lives in solitude. Guys will still f**k anything and in their 30s 40s 50s 60s etc women will still get sexual attention. Also women in their 30s are still attractive to guys who want children, though attraction decreases as the age increases.e.g a 30 year old is still attractive for…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 04:20 AM
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Some of them do want to do it, but they have to fight against the old boys' club, not being taken seriously, and being told they're not good enough - to say nothing of the potential harassment and unwanted advances many of them have to deal with. I find it interesting that this is always the default excuse for women avoiding dangerous 'dirty' jobs. Meanwhile, the other fields where women are making major strides have these same obstacles for example: Politics, Academia, Law, Medicine and other S…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 12:52 AM
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They do look alike
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 04:07 AM
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Dude is super talented but weird looking lol
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 03:49 AM
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Do you live in a big city? There are plenty in mine
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 03:15 AM
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When I lived in Europe, we washed everything by hand. Throwing everything into a washer and dryer isn't a big deal. Exactly. Where I'm from people aren't even guaranteed piped water and have to hand wash everything. Imagine complaining about throwing clothes in a machine that washes and dries them for you as you sip wine and watch The View. Such a hard life!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 12:52 AM
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Scientifically yes, societally no. Nothing is rare and precious if it's given away for free to half of a demographic.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 02:50 PM
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My response is not discussing morality. It's discussing out-of-wedlock children, who result from sex which involves sperm fertilizing "rare and precious" eggs. The aforementioned eggs are being fertilized to fruition 50% of the time outside of marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 01:02 AM
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Based take. Username checks out
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 12:34 AM
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Ova are rare and precious, and require a lifetime investment when fertilized. Modern times tend to disagree. Today, 50% of children are born out of wedlock compared to 28% in the 90s. Guys aren't even required to pay the price of commitment (marriage) to access this "rare and precious" commodity
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 12:32 AM
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Spot on 💯
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 08:15 PM
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It depends. I've dated some badass attorneys who were killing it in court and locking up criminals. My last ex was a federal prosecutor who was a ferocious litigator in court. But in our relationship she was an extremely pleasant, thoughtful, kind, family oriented woman. If she had the same attitude inside and outside court I wouldn't have dated her. I guess the duality of her personality was a turn on? I don't know.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 04:07 AM
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When I was single I did this and my outcomes were better than when I asked for hers.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 03:30 AM
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If you're lucky like me you have a GF who is high libido. If not, perhaps seek escorts or sex workers.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 03:48 AM
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Do the women they sleep with see the men as sex objects as well? If not, what evidence do you have to support your claim?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 03:16 AM
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Unfortunately, this won't change. But honestly, what do you want women to do? Dating is competitive and everyone wants the best for themselves. Even outside of dating - e.g I'll take the job that pays me more and has better perks. I won't care about the candidates who lost that job to me. What I hope is that women understand this cuts both ways. As a 10% guy with options, I don't owe you commitment. I want what's best for me and I'll choose the best out of the options afforded to me. I don't car…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 03:07 AM
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If they were, this would be evident in other spheres of life outside of relationships: - Countries would have 2 presidents - Sports teams would have 2 captains - Police departments would have 2 police chiefs etc etc I think the only way it can work is if you're leading different aspects of your relationship. For example, one spouse takes charge of household finances and another takes the lead in children matters. They would still be involved in both realms and consult each other, it's just that …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 04:33 AM
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Sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 08:38 PM
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For the past three years, I thought I discovered the key; I must work to establish passive-income for myself as an entrepreneur (I already have this), so that once I get married and have children, I have money to pay for (at minimum) my own upkeep. That I could have a provider husband, be a present mother during my children's younger years (until they begin school and then maybe I can focus on other small projects), and I wouldn't be completely financially-dependent on my husband. Is this not a …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 07:09 PM
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Not unreasonable. Your preferences are your preferences. Even if you were a high n-count dude looking for a virgin/low n woman that is fine. Women have hypocritical standards all the time and are praised for it. ​ That said, your best bet is to look in religious circles. Such women exist, I landed one myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 06:46 AM
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OP was talking about breadwinners: But there are lots of couples where the woman is the breadwinner and the dad stays at home or works part time for a much lower wage.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 12:32 AM
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lmao that's what she said
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 05:05 AM
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That's true. Except that 1) 50% of kids are born out of wedlock today 2) Most women work until late into their pregnancies. Also in western countries there are safety nets to ensure smooth transitions into birth.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 04:13 AM
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This is fair 👍🏽. But I also agree that some men might get insecure with a higher earning wife due to societal pressures, so I think it goes both ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 03:55 AM
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55% of men are breadwinners, 16% are women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 02:36 AM
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To non-RedPillers, everything RP says/does is disrespectful. Nothing new.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 09:15 PM
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Nowadays anything is considered vilification and disrespect for women. I prefer a low n-count wife - "You're insecure!" I don't date single moms - "How dare you!" She must be fit - "You're fat shaming" ​ Maybe you aren’t perceiving the content in the same way because you’re a man, and a red-pilled man as well. Nothing to misconstrue. Majority of the posts are self improvement, relationship/life advice and how to navigate the dating market.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 01:00 AM
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Yep I've seen that video and it was recorded in the 80s
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 11:39 PM
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Jada would never treat Tupac like this
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 05:25 AM
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“Any” includes Any also includes non public figures. That's literally the definition of any lmao. You: "Do you have any money?" Me: "no" You: "You realize any includes $100 bills" Me: 🤦
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 05:13 AM
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Sure, but you asked if I knew any. And your post insinuated that only red piller would be in miserable marriages. If you know red pillers in bad marriages, good for you. Your experience is not mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 05:05 AM
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Because they are natural-born simps. Look at Will Smith. One of the highest rated actors whose wife is a D-List actor at best. Yet guy was abused, cucked and humiliated in public by her and still seeks her approval. If simping and lack of backbone is in your DNA there's not much you can do about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 05:02 AM
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Real life. I know blue pillers in miserable marriages and who were raked over the coals in divorce. You act like non-red pill marriages are rainbows and butterflies 😅 . How's that working for the likes of Will Smith? Put your wife on a pedestal yet she still fantasizes about her thug boyfriend 30+ years after their break up 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 04:58 AM
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Lmao yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 04:11 AM
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I disagree with your never cry in front of her position. There have been numerous lengthy threads in this sub of guys who showed vulnerability in front of their GFs/wives only for the relationship to implode shortly thereafter. This, coupled with my own anecdotal experiences with friends and family who acted in this way only to end up being dumped, makes me hesitant to accept your stance that it's ok to cry in front of her. Therapy is where guys should go to unload emotions. My theory is this - …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 03:19 AM
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Agreed
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 03:04 AM
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Very good point, for instance Nikola Tesla
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 02:59 AM
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Some suggestions; These are not mutually exclusive: Passport bro'ing: This might be cost prohibitive but from what I hear it's worth it. Visit sex workers(if it's legal in your part of the world): To scratch your itch. Get a dog: Nothing/no one is more loyal than a dog. They are amazing companions and are always happy to see you. Pursue fulfilling hobbies: These will help keep you busy and focus your "relationship desire" energy on other things.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 02:05 AM
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I just checked that sub. Majority of the posts are self improvement, relationship/life advice and how to navigate the dating market.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 12:53 AM
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This sub lumps everyone in the manosphere as Redpill. Hell, anyone who has an opposing view is lumped into Redpill
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 12:23 AM
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"And let's be realistic, redpill VERY often leads men to hate women" Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 11:49 PM
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It's no different than now. The government enforces child support and the recipient has power over the payer via the government(jail time, drivers license suspension etc). This is simply leveling the playing field.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 03:03 AM
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Put money in a child support account and at the end of the month the payer gets sent a statement just like a bank statement. They can then review it and see if there's anything that's not in the list of child related expenses and time file a complaint if there is. This way the brunt of the work is done by the payer, not the government.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 11:12 PM
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It's the government, not the ex enforcing.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 10:31 PM
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The system should provide accountability. Example 1: I have a corporate credit card from my employer for business expenses. I can pay travel and accommodation when I travel for work. At the end of the month our accountant then reviews my expenses (I have to provide receipts). If I decide to buy $300 Nike sneakers when I travel to California for a conference that expense will be denied. Example 2: Health Savings Accounts come with a debit card that you can use but only for health related expenses…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 10:19 PM
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That's child support, not alimony.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 08:11 PM
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Imagine breaking your lease then having your landlord pay you money because you lost out on an opportunity to own a home. "I sacrificed my opportunity by living here and paying you rent!"
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 06:41 PM
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It's less risky but it makes sense since the kids are home full-time. Once they are in school for 8+ hours you can work a job. This is no longer a sacrifice but a choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 06:30 PM
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Being a SAHP after the kids are of school age is too risky. What if your spouse loses their job? gets injured?dies? You're fucked. Once kids are in school, the SAHP should go back to work; if they don't, they have assumed the risk and shouldn't call it "sacrificing".
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 06:24 PM
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Do you meet someone and marry them the next day? Do you know what an analogy is?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 02:45 PM
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False
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 02:42 PM
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Because I had plenty of option and she met the criteria
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 07:01 AM
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Husband and wife are roles. On a soccer/football/basketball team are the players partners? or do they have roles? Yet they are all important.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 06:41 AM
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I'm a fan of child support since it lessens the load on taxpayers. The problem is that there's no accountability.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 06:31 AM
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I don't have any kids and don't plan to have any. But I remember watching Adele, Britney, Halle Berry whining about paying child support
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 06:26 AM
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Child support will only change once women en-masse start forking over large amounts to their children's fathers. It'll go from "best interest of the child" to "he is an economical leech and I shouldn't pay for his children"
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 06:06 AM
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Extremely low n count, fit, friendly, great cook, wants to be a wife(not a partner), nurturing, loves kids and I met her through my social circle.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 05:52 AM
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Not OP but I had my shit together. Post grad degree, owned multiple real estate properties and was in shape. I took about 3 years off from dating to pursue these goals. When I hopped back in the dating pool I was a 6'4" six pack having dude with a good job, resources and vast travel and life experiences. I had the pick of the litter in the dating pool. Edit: haha haters downvoting
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 04:11 AM
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Yeah, 34+ and you're dealing with women rushing to the altar or rushing to get knocked up. Yikes.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 04:03 AM
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Salute! 👍🏽
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 03:57 AM
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I'm in my 30s. When I was single I dated mostly women in their early to mid 20s. Most 30s women I encountered either had kids or were childless but with extreme babies rabies. Glad I met my GF and I'm not in the dating game anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 02:48 AM
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I'm yet to see any man here say they are not comfortable dating a woman who makes more. What is said is that men "don't care" about a woman's career. What should successful women do? Don't blame men if you can't find a partner. Having requirements is fine but if you can't find a man who meets those requirements don't point the finger at men. If you want a man who makes more than you, you should realize that man has many options as well. If you're fine with dating a man who makes less than you, d…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 11:47 AM
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You are an exception. Studies have shown that over the last 40+ years women have made significant strides in education and income but still marry up financially https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/jomf.12372#:%7E:text=Between%201980%20and,than%20the%20husband If they can't, they complain about the lack of economically attractive men and stay single https://abc7chicago.com/cornell-university-researchers-blame-the-decline-of-us-marriages-on-a-shortage-economically-attractive-men-for-un…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 11:27 AM
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Yes it is for women at least. And if you don't have it, the equivalent is "ambition". So women will gladly date and marry a broke med school student or a broke law school student because of his future prospects. The same is not true for a bus driver, a janitor, etc. For men, most don't care about a woman's money/career. Most men are already short of options without having any filters. If they add an income filter it further shrinks their dating pool. By "don't care about a woman's money/career" …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 04:11 AM
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So, no source 😂. Plus you've now dragged in MGTOW. I asked about Red Pill. Not MGTOW, Manosphere, Black Pill etc. RedPill.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 10:50 PM
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lmao. source?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 07:53 PM
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but you cannot compare these two. Feminism is a serious political movement which proved to be very effective in reaching it's goals, Because there was large scale buy-in from a plethora institutions most notably the government and other public as well as private institutions. RP does not have co-signers of this magnitude. You can't compare Rollo et al with government incentives and programs that promote leveling the gender playing field we do not have any proof that any of it's advice What is RP…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 02:09 AM
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Caveat: I'm 6'4" with an athletic build. Probably 2/10 of women who approached me were women who I was attracted to for long-term engagement. The rest...no
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 04:55 AM
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Most men don't care because they usually have to take what they get. Women have more power in the relationship marketplace. Women usually have multiple guys knocking at their door so they have the luxury of being selective. If a software engineer meets a pre school teacher he's not going to disqualify her just because of education and income. He'll be glad he landed her. A woman on the other hand has multiple options so if she has a pre-school teacher, engineer, attorney and dentist knocking on …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 10:33 PM
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Shitting out kids is too high risk to come without a price. 50% of kids today in USA are born out of wedlock. In 1990 this was 20%. Price must be low AF today...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 05:38 AM
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My sister is one example. Yes, she should have picked better, and yes, why did she choose to breed with him, etc., etc., yada yada. It was a terrible decision on her part to procreate with a lazy-ass drug addict, no doubt. Does your sister live in New England ? I have a colleague that meets this description lol. Said colleague is extremely successful, making over 200K per year but she was dating a drug addict and would complain about his behavior all the time back in 2019/2020. Fast forward to t…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 05:33 AM
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Bro, (respectfully) you can't have this defeatist mindset. Approach if you want to approach. Don't overthink it, if you get rejected - fine. Keep it moving. You miss 100% of the shots you don't take. Nike this shit, just do it!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 05:20 AM
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This study is focusing on educational hypergamy: The reversal of the gender gap in education has major implications for the composition of marriage markets, assortative mating, gender equality, and marital outcomes such as divorce and childbearing (Van Bavel 2012). In this work, we focus on its implications for trends in assortative mating and, in particular, for educational hypergamy: the pattern in which husbands have more education than their wives. and Our data provided a rich source for vis…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 01:55 AM
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Negative
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 02:10 PM
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Breakup my guy. This woman will cheat on you sooner or later. Better now than when you have kids and intermingled assets.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 06:34 AM
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Studies show that women still prefer higher-earning husbands despite their(women) higher education and earnings. If they can't land them they will still complain about the lack of economically attractive men and stay single.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 03:23 AM
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I don't know about "these days" but... This study compares women in 1980 and 2008-2012. The study found that despite women's education and income increasing over 40+ years they still tend to marry up financially. Women themselves tell us they can't find "economically attractive" men
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 02:57 AM
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It proves your faulty logic - you posted the same fake news and bad arithmetic in that thread. No need for me to copy paste I'll just link it
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 10:49 PM
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Debunked already
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 10:07 PM
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Fake news?? Lmao Pew Research is about as reliable as you can get. It's reliable but your math isn't. 29% + 16% = 44%. And I already debunked your faulty math and logic here Yes, men are the breadwinners in a slightly higher percentage of families. Slightly higher? 55% is slightly higher than 16%?%20of%20marriages%20today%20have%20a%20husband%20who%20is%20the%20primary%20or%20sole%20breadwinner%20and%2016%25%20have%20a%20breadwinner%20wife). Did you even read that study or just pasted the link h…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 10:02 PM
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most women work these days, and close to half of marriages do not have a male breadwinner. You keep posting this fake news yet I already debunked it with you here
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 05:50 AM
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In 47% of American marriages, the man is not the breadwinner. Your own link%20of%20marriages%20today%20have%20a%20husband%20who%20is%20the%20primary%20or%20sole%20breadwinner) shows that in 55% of marriages the man is the bread winner, so this is false So, no, men are clearly automatically expected to be the main provider in a significant percentage of American households. You keep posting this fake news yet I already debunked it with you here
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 05:48 AM
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I agree with this: Over the last decade men have have been putting themselves out there but more men are getting rejected. Approaching in 2023 is not the same as it was in 2003. The game is changed, women are pickier and most men are not in the conversation. ​ But I also agree with OP's this: If men dont initiate interaction they will remain invisible since women certainly wont make a move. Women don't approach in an overwhelming majority of cases. If men were to wait for women to approach they …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 04:34 AM
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Do your thing bruh 😎
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 01:46 AM
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Welcome to a man's world. Rejection happens to us all the time and we have to suck it up and try again if we want relationships - or just give up and check out: MGTOW guys
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 05:12 AM
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At least they get something. Men get homeless
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 03:35 AM
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Have you tried a matchmaker?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 03:16 AM
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Corporate arbitration of what? Google Vs Apple arbitration lawyers don't make the same as Mr Smith vs Mrs Smith Hardware arbitration. And usually with corporate arbitration the contract-breaker will get punished. In marriages(without prenups) the wrong doer can end up walking away with cash and prizes. My stay-at-home wife cheats on me, I file for divorce and I'm liable for alimony, child support and uneven asset division. If I walk away from my mortgage today I can guarantee you there will be n…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 02:00 AM
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Bad move. The reason I ask is that maybe he would've been a stay at home dad. So even though he lacked ambition, he'd be caring for your kids. I 100% discussed this with my girlfriend within the first 3 months of dating. I didn't want us to waste each other's time if we were not compatible on our core principles and future. We discussed finances, religion, political beliefs etc. All the "unromantic" topics. Finances was a hard and good discussion because we got to hash out some things that would…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 01:36 AM
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100 fucking percent. No wonder divorce rates are so high!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 01:32 AM
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“I’d much rather buy a house with a friend! Friends are forever!” -the reason corporate arbitration lawyers make so much money. “I’d much rather buy a house with my spouse! Marriages are forever!” - the reason family law attorneys make so much money.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 01:30 AM
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he's stuck with a jawannaman n shit Is that a man or Juwanna Mann
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 01:26 AM
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Did you discuss what his role would be when you got married? ?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 01:17 AM
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How long did you date? Did you discuss what his role would be when you got married?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 01:15 AM
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100% . Any negative talking point from the manosphere gets assigned to RedPill. I remember one poster here said that RedPill says you shouldn't date until your mid 30s lol. Yet one of RedPill's core principles is "spinning plates" i.e dating multiple women at the same time to increase your odds.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 01:11 AM
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What part of investing do you not understand? You have to put something on the line in order to obtain something valuable What part of "you don't have to do that to achieve those results" don't you understand? I've met amazing quality women who didn't care for where we went or how much money I spent(or rather, didn't spend) as long as we got to spend time together. That is genuine attraction. I'm in the 10% of earners and if I wanted to spend I would, but I don't because that's a dumb strategy. …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 12:33 AM
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For her to be in a relationship you have to bag her i.e make her yours exclusively. So you're spending beaucoup bucks and still not getting any results which is my point exactly. A woman who likes you doesn't care how much you spend on her - I'm speaking from tonnes of experience which includes even dating hardcore feminists and trad women. You're leading with you wallet which just makes you eligible for being a beta buxx. But do you, different strokes for different folks.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 12:26 AM
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But they are. I've shown two studies, show yours ...that back up your claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 11:09 PM
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"Prefer" was my wording. The study shows that the tendency, i.e what women are doing, is still marrying up
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 10:02 PM
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💯
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 12:56 AM
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You are spot on. I lived in NYC for a few years for my job after college and it is highly competitive even for women. My circle comprised of the type of guys she's looking for but they were not checking for women like her (at least not for LTR/marriage)
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 12:31 AM
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especially when they are already high status, like this woman False. History and studies have shown that women still prefer higher-earning husbands. If they can't land them they complain about the lack of economically attractive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 12:01 AM
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This is exactly what the RP means when we say we don't care about women's career/how much you make. Just because you make bank doesn't make up for other things. Men with options have certain things they look for and if you don't make the cut we look elsewhere since we have the luxury of doing so. Perhaps that's why she ends up with "rotten apples" - guys who make her tingle but don't got shit going for themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 11:54 PM
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Moreover the type of guy she wants is drowning in options. And another thing... women think that what they find attractive in men is the same thing that men like in them. Cool, she makes good money - but the ivy league 6-figure guy she wants makes good money too and her net worth is not as attractive as other things he may value. Lastly, if every apple she's picking is rotten something might be wrong with the picker.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 11:51 PM
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If a woman is into you she won't care about "skin in the game" shit. Most of my first dates have been free or damn near free and I've never had a problem bagging these ladies. The only time I start spending is once she's my girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 10:26 PM
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Yes, In about 55% of heterosexual marriages, the husband makes more money than the wife In 55 % of the marriages the husband is the breadwinner vs 16% of marriages it's the wife. Then 29% of marriages are egalitarian which means "they each make between 40% and 60% of the couple’s combined earnings". Doesn't say who makes what and what portion of the 29% that is. I just debunked this shit earlier this week.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 01:31 AM
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There are lots of women happy to be with somebody who makes less than them. The stats, and women themselves, say different. History has shown that women still prefer higher-earning husbands. If they can't land one, they complain about the lack of economically attractive men and stay single.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 01:07 AM
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Choose better then. If you picked a bum lazy dude and bred with him, he's passed on his lazy genetics to your offspring. Good job
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 12:54 AM
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So is this whole thing about dudes being mad they were ignored? No, it's about women choosing the obvious bad guy, having babies with him then acting surprised when he turns out to be a deadbeat. Are there guys who start off good then change? Sure. But that's not the majority.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 12:48 AM
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Lmao and they get ignored. I grew up in the hood. The riff raffs never lacked women and infact most had multiple baby mamas from all walks of life. Dudes who stuck to school or worked jobs in high school were viewed as squares and got no action. Dope boys, gang bangers, criminals got most if not all the women. This tracks with the "women love bad boys" narrative.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 04:18 AM
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These are the most common we see here on ppd. In addition to "abusive". her: All of a sudden he turned abusive logical people: but he had face tattoos and a lengthy violent criminal record her: he manipulated me
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 03:57 AM
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😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 02:22 AM
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The exception does not make the rule. Nate Robinson is 5'8" and played in the NBA. How many players in the NBA are under 6ft? (hint: average height is 6'6"). There are guys who will absolutely wife thots, pornstars, prostitutes etc but that's not the norm with guys who have options. Also, maybe it's the name Adam lol. Adam22 is another Youtuber who married a pornstar and even watched his wife get piped down and commended the guy for doing so.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 12:57 AM
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100% this. A lot of men are walking down the wedding aisle with a shit-eating grin plastered on their faces not knowing what lies in wait. I know guys like this...smh
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 12:46 AM
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Don't forget money. This is the true equalizer
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 11:23 PM
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I've still been rejected, ghosted and flaked on a shit ton of times. Giving up was not an option...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 11:20 PM
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You miss 100% of the shots you don't take. Maybe it's because I played sports in high school and college that I have this you-win-some-you-lose-some mentality. Losing is part of life and so is rejection when you cold approach. Once you embrace this mindset your life will be better. Though I admit looks matter too - I'm 6'4"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 09:57 PM
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Okay, you’re getting into semantics now. It’s still very clear that in those 44% of marriages, the woman is contributing a significant percentage of the finances to the household income. There is no male breadwinner in those marriages. My original claim was that most women marry up not that they marry breadwinners. It's not semantics, it basic statistical analysis. It could be that all women in egaliterian marriages in the study earn 60% and men earn 40%, or vice versa or 50-50 etc but we don't …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 09:44 PM
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If you compare apples to apples of bread winning, 16% and 55% is still a big gap. Clearly, that’s almost half of marriages. I'm guessing you're saying this because 16+29=44% which is almost 50% and calling it "almost half". It's not almost half because in the egalitarian marriages per that article "they each make between 40% and 60% of the couple’s combined earnings". So there's still someone earning more in these marriages, it doesn't say who.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 04:19 PM
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Just being in the same socioeconomic bracket doesn't mean your salaries are similar. A middle class salary ranges from $38K to $114K so a woman earning 50K marrying a man making 100K is still marrying in her socioeconomic bracket but the income disparity is still there. 55% of marriages have the husband as breadwinner and only 19% have a breadwinning wife. And most normal men don't struggle with finding dates. Sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 03:25 PM
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I'd be a bit pissed in my mid fifties at some guy who thought my count of 2 indicated promiscuity...but there's guys out there No there aren't. A count of 2 in mid 50s is unicorn-level and they would wife you up with the quickness. Any single digit n-count in 50s would be fair
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 02:05 AM
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Being a lesbian is more acceptable than being a gay guy. Two women kissing is more attractive than two guys kissing and women's sexual value is higher than men's. Lesbians have it easier than gay guys, stop the cap. So in the gay context, the higher DV among lesbians and the higher divorce rate can't just be overlooked even across sexuality boundaries
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 01:51 AM
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Feminists: We want women to have the choice to do what what they want Woman: I choose to do X trettles: 🤬 pick me!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 12:12 AM
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Heavy is the head that wears the crown
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 12:04 AM
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The problem is Most women marry up anyway. A female Director of Sales will likely not date/marry a male pre school teacher. Women love economically attractive men. Men already struggle with finding dates therefore adding a financial dealbreaker to their dating criteria will further shrink their already small dating pool. More men should be educated on the importance of prenups. This would allay thier fears.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 12:02 AM
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Nailed it
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 06:44 PM
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Men get the illusion that the date will lead to another one. This is far from a guarantee. This is why my first dates are usually cheap AF (coffee, walk in the park, free museum exhibitions etc). Surprisingly majority of the women I dated didn't mind. A few women tried to change up the location: "lets go to <insert expensive restaurant here> instead". These women got dropped with the quickness. A woman who's really into you will be down to sit on a park bench and talk.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 02:29 AM
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Sorry to hear about your struggles. Some questions: Have you tried to lose weight and if so, what have you tried? Where are you meeting men with this JDBF attitude? If online, then yes your results will be dismal. In person can be more promising. When you say fat, what do you mean? I think guys might be more lenient to curvier women vs obese. What type of guy are you looking for?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 02:23 AM
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This seems to be the reasonable conclusion according to my empirical evidence and field research.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 01:29 AM
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This is true. Men will even sleep with women in comas - the thirst levels are off the charts
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 01:26 AM
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Exactly this. I still love it but gone are the days of putting it on a pedestal. In my younger simp days(early 20s) I would chase even if it went against my principles. In my 30s, the slightest violation of my principles meant I bid her goodbye, didn't matter how hot she was. Being more mature, in better shape, having more resources and an eventful life (travel, hobbies, learning new skills etc) is what helped change my mentality and given me more options. What's weird is this indifference to pu…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 01:23 AM
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IIRC it was an AITA post. Dude was asking if he was the AH for refusing to finance the wedding given his step-daughter's and her mother's(his wife's) stance. ​ Edit: Found the thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/AITAH/comments/15g8wwv/final_update_aita_for_not_paying_for_my_step/
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 12:36 AM
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Not only that, raising another man's kids is fraught with risk: If you break up with the mother, the emotional bond you shared with the kid is shattered and you have no rights. If the father is in the picture, that means you have someone else who has a say in your life/household. Want to all go on a trip? The bio father has to sign off. Want to discipline the child? He also has a say. If the father is a dick, you have to deal with that drama as well. It's often a thankless job. You can raise you…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 11:01 PM
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Edit: Your numbers are incorrect. It's 4.5%-12% for under 30 years and 2%-12% for over 38. Here's research from the National Library of Medicine. The clinical pregnancy rate per vitrified and thawed oocyte is 4.5%–12%.1 However, it should be noted that these data are generally derived from oocytes obtained from women less than 30 years of age. Clinical pregnancy rates decline with advanced maternal age at the time of freezing.1 Furthermore, the ASRM estimates that the live birth rate is 2%–12% f…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 10:26 PM
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Where the hell are you getting 0.0533% from an 80% statistic?! If you freeze one round of eggs before the age of 35, there is an 80% chance of having at least one love birth from those eggs later on You have 15 eggs - if ALL 15 were capable of producing live births then 100% of them would be capable (i.e 15/15 * 100%). However, only 1 out of 15 are viable. 1/15 = 0.066% chance. Now, for this 1 egg, there's an 80% chance of it being a live birth. 0.066 * 80% = 0.0533% chance. Also, adoption doesn…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 10:10 PM
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Neither is age - chance of at least one live birth if you freeze 15 eggs before 35 is 80%. So a probability of 0.0533% for live birth vs In the US, of women of birthing age who have no prior births, about 19% are unable to get pregnant an 81% chance. Yikes! Also, what man wants to be raising a child into his 60s or 70s? not very many. So fertility isn’t even an issue after a certain point, because it becomes an issue for both the man and the woman Men can still have kids at 50+ . It might not be…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 09:27 PM
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Error 404: No Lies Found
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 08:02 PM
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I'll be sure to relay this information from an internet stranger to her 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 02:50 PM
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You also need to have a hot face like a male models. It depends. If I'm in Miami or LA sure. But even when I lived in NYC I didn't have any problems. Did I get rejected? Sure. But I also clapped numerous cheeks.. Getting rejected is a part of life. I understand that I'm not everyone's cup of tea.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 06:02 AM
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I'm sorry, so you're not Chad. Being Chad isn't just about height and supposedly being in shape. My n-count is high and if I wasn't in a relationship, I would be killing it. Brad Pitt is a chad and still got divorced. Same with Johnny Depp and Tom Brady. Leonardo Di Caprio knows what the deal is so he doesn't get married. If you need to overcompensate with other things, you're not Chad. Being tall in-and-of-itself gets me in the door with women. Many women I've dated said they wouldn't give me a…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 05:55 AM
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I agree. I hit the lottery and found a trad woman in the USA but this was after plenty of years of searching.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 04:59 AM
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Chad just needs to exist and he will have plenty of access to sex even though he is useless, I disagree. I'm 6'4', multi-lingual, in shape (work out 6 times a week), and a 10% earner. And while I didn't have problems getting into relationships and casual sex, I still had to work for it. If I sat at a bar and a woman sat at the other end of the bar I can guarantee you she would get more action than I did. And even if I spit game at women at the bar, the bar-to-sex trajectory is much longer than a…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 04:55 AM
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To be fair, I might end up dying alone lol. I don't know if she'll leave me - if she does I don't think I'd settle for less and would end up alone 😂. I'd fuck but wouldn't LTR for anything less 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 04:22 AM
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I got extremely lucky and found a traditional woman who wanted to be a wife and was looking for a husband, not a partner. We know our roles and execute them well. Had I not found her I would just kept slaying and keeping it moving.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 04:14 AM
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Sexually inexperienced men are at the bottom of the bucket for women while high n-count women are also at the bottom of the bucket for men. I don't know why this is so hard for women to understand on this sub. A guy who has a high n-count has some type of skill that makes him attractive enough for women to sleep with him. Per this sub, women are picky so if a guy is slaying, there's some skill he possesses. Contrast this with a high n-count woman. A woman just needs to exist and she can get sexu…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 03:45 AM
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Smart man
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 11:40 PM
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Yeah I keep seeing the whole "Men; wait until you are in your 30s before slaying!". Another falsehood parroted by people who know nothing about RP. RP is against marriage but says if you choose to do it wait until your 30s. Until then, spin plates i.e slay. It doesn't say don't date until your 30s lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 07:40 PM
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Hope you are using protection, kind sir. You don't want to get that late text, the "I think I'm late" text.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 06:56 PM
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The real reason is that there are a ton of women out here who actually have their shit together. This is true - but the reason these guys have more options is because a guy who has his shit together in his 30s, and is single, is not as common as women who do. You often hear women asking "where are the good men?" or lamenting about the lack of economically attractive men. As such, the shallow pool of single guys who have their shit together will definitely have a multitude of dating options to ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 11:52 PM
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Will Smith?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 04:09 AM
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Spot on
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 12:04 AM
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These hoes aint got no manners
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 12:00 AM
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A woman can reject you for whatever reason she wants. It shouldn't be labeled as "shallow". People are allowed to have their preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 05:48 PM
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Yeah, you completely missed the point while at the same time reinforcing my point 😂. Whaat proof is there that Jeezy is toxic?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 06:40 PM
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so I’m not sure what point you’re trying to make. Even when a woman is toxic and the man leaves her, women still want to blame the man for leaving. If Jeezy had been on record saying he has a anger issues that he offloaded on his previous/current partners (like Jeannie admitted on live daytime television) and Jeannie ended up divorcing him, you know damn well women in general won't be lamenting the fact that Jeannie left. Not only that he'd be cancelled with the quickness.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 09:11 PM
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I know very little about either of them but I do know she was married before. Jeezy has two baby mamas whom he never married. Jeannie was his first marriage. She's also known for referring to her black lovers as "dark meat" Divorce rates skyrocket for people on their second and third marriages. That's the unfortunate truth. Stats don't lie. So the chances of it working out were low to begin with, either way. I get that, my point is how Jeezy is getting faulted for divorcing her (even when Jeanni…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 05:33 PM
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Reminds me of when Jeezy filed for divorce from Jeannie Mai a few weeks ago. Go to any Youtube video commenting about this divorce and you'll see majority of the women in the comments were blaming Jeezy - "I can't believe he divorced her after two years!", "He baby trapped her then dumped her". Meanwhile in numerous videos, Jeannie Mai has outrightly said how she has a hot temper and that her first husband took it but Jeezy was having none of it and always checked her. Yet this is overlooked and…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 03:47 PM
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This is the type of woman you break up with, then you come back home from work one day and find her sitting in the dark talking about: "You thought I wouldn't come back for you? 😈"
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 08:07 PM
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They’re not having sex, she is extremely immature (drinks heavily, starts fights, gets violent with him), Sounds like this is not an age gap issue but a toxic woman issue. Would she behave any different with a guy her age?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 05:51 AM
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Bruh was married and divorced four times, dude is an L taking machine.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 04:34 AM
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Indeed
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 01:59 PM
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Entitled = I am a pretty woman therefore anything I do you must tolerate. Disrespectful = talking down on people, talking back and combative, lack of conflict resolution skills etc
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 05:34 AM
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I experience the ick with - high n-count women. - women who are not fit (I am fit myself) - women who can't cook (I can cook) - disrespectful, entitled women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 05:12 AM
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but courts still require "beyond a reasonable doubt" for felonies and conviction rates are still very low Courts require that but it still goes on your record since you were arrested. Now you have to deal with legal fees for expungement(if you can afford it) and/or the societal stigma - your reputation still takes a hit especially for sexual crime allegations even if they are false.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 02:32 AM
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I've never heard any man say they want a "hyper feminine" woman. Which circles are you in where men are lamenting about the lack of hyper feminine women? How did you conclude that these negative traits are only ascribed to hyper feminine women? -crying and drama over silly things. -her expecting you to be a mind reader. -nothing ever pleases her. -her expecting you to not cry. -Her leaving you when you are at your weakest. -treats you like her dad and wants you to pay for her. -worst of all, all…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 04:32 AM
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Like if the man is a piece of shit whos constantly stepping out on her and isn’t providing for the children he’s probably not going to care enough to start the paperwork. Lesbian relationships have much higher divorce rates - almost double - than male gay relationships. I'm seeing a common denominator here 🧐
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 07:18 PM
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Men also invent and create a vast amount of infrastructure and technology (even for women e.g Caesarean Section, birth control, tampons, makeup, lingerie etc). But it's funny, women never shun these products en-masse lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 05:11 AM
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Ok men start the wars. Putin started the war, cool. Ukraine had no say in it, and had to defend themselves. So you'd think in this era of equality both men and women would stay to fight for their country. Spoiler alert: That did not happen. Flip the script: If men in Ukraine had discovered a massive stash of precious minerals and said only men could benefit from it, I doubt that the sentiment would be "well, men discovered it so it's only right that they can benefit from it"
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 05:05 AM
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As the country being attacked, you'd think that everyone would band together to fight the aggressor. Aren't we equal? But no, women and (understandably children) are usually given a pass. Source: Ukraine.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 04:56 AM
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I agree with getting your kids(sons and daughters) into some type of sports from a young age. But pinning your hopes on professional sports is a bit naive. Injuries, indiscipline, stiff competition, low likelihood all make that dream much harder to achieve. I played sports from a young age and through high school and college. It helped me stay fit then and now - I play in several rec leagues just to stay in shape, but I have a professional career that was a much better bet for me than sports.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 02:32 AM
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We should hold men accountable for what they really are- criminals, abusers, dead beat dads, sexual predators etc. All these men are held accountable when the law is involved. In fact, in today's "believeAllWomen" society a woman can make an allegation without any proof and the law will do the rest for you. Innocent until proven guilty be damned
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 02:23 AM
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On bumble where women have to message first, you'll never get anything more than "hi" Messages like this triggered an automatic unmatch from me. Fortunately some women really took the time to read my profile, write thoughtful intro messages and maintain engagement in the ensuing conversation - I pursued such. I never wasted time with the "hi" or emoji-only messages
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 01:51 AM
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Lmao, higher IQs doesn't equal alpha. Tech industry, academia etc is full of high IQ betas.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 03:02 AM
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Men. But men also caution against marriage. But most women still defend it, even on this thread majority women are defending it. And women steady complain about marriage yet they are the ones who want it the most. Visit the "waitingToWed" sub; nothing but women complaining that their BFs haven't proposed. Find me a similar sub, article, post about men complaining that women will not marry them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 02:51 AM
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Boomer men don’t do jack shit around the house while still not making enough for their wives to work less. So she’s mom, breadwinner and housekeeper while he settles in with a beer after his hard day at the cubicle lol. But she chose him. With all the emotional intelligence, woman's intuition etc, she picked him 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 12:37 AM
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👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 12:09 AM
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You would think TRP holds deadbeat fathers accountable with how badly they speak about single mothers. The "deadbeat" in deadbeat fathers already has a negative connotation. Not only that, the LAW holds deadbeat fathers accountable whether they like it or not. Single mothers on the other hand are never held accountable. We hear shit like "strong", "independent" single mothers yet they slept with Pookie the dope dealer and Tyrone the gangbanger. When asked they say "I was young and dumb", "I was …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 09:33 PM
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So guys who are habitual offenders shouldn’t be expected to take care of their responsibilities. They should just get a pass to keep acting like assholes cuz “women should know better”? Why did the woman have a child with a habitual offender? Women have so many options to choose from, why choose the worst? I'm a landlord. If I choose a tenant who has bad credit (habitual offender for not paying their debts) yet I receive plenty of applications from applicants with good credit, am I not to blame?…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 09:24 PM
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I grew up in a community that had unsavory characters such as gangbangers, dope dealers, criminals who were frequently in and out of jail etc. These guys never lacked female companions and they usually had multiple "baby mamas" to boot. The "squares" in our community (guys going to school, working 2 jobs etc) got little to no attention
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 02:30 AM
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You are always dropping gems in this bitch. Salute!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 04:08 AM
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Precisely. When there aren't any perverse incentives men and women jettison from relationships at nearly the same rates. Enter perverse incentives: the one likely to benefit from the incentives will abandon the relationship more easily.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 03:44 AM
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They are more likely to be miserable yet they are chomping at the bits to get married 😂. Visit the "waitingToWed" sub reddit for examples of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 03:42 AM
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Who leaves the most? Women who don’t need any money from their husband. Child support and alimony are still a thing. Even with 50/50 custody, the higher earner still pays child support. And since women mostly marry men who make more than them the money flows from man->woman. Not only that, asset division usually favors the woman e.g woman gets the house because of the kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 03:39 AM
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There's a reason why Disney movies end after the couple gets married. Marriage is hard work. Love is an emotion that's fleeting. If you base your entire marriage on that, you are doomed. Marriage is about duty. Women claim they want equality in parenting but these same women rally against 50/50 custody as it decrease child support payments. Advice for men: Schedule a consultation with a family law attorney to get a glimpse of what awaits you in terms of marriage and probable divorce. Most attorn…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 03:55 AM
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Every belief system has extremists. Find me one belief system that doesn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 03:41 PM
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Oh, I understand female nature to a tee, and it has served me well!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 03:28 AM
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It’s not , I can tell you don't know a goddamn thing about redpill. Taking accountability is one of the core tenets of red pill. Another tenet is understanding female nature and adapting to it, not being mad at women. I've noticed that nowadays asshole guys are automatically labelled redpill by women. "Dude said women belong in the kitchen, fucking redpill loser!"
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 03:20 AM
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I'm a redpiller who's been in STEM since high school and in a career spanning 15+ years in the STEM trenches. (Most) women in STEM are just as awkward as the men lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 03:13 AM
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Another misinterpretation of RP. When RP says they don't care bout your careers it means a guy with options will choose a 9/10 elementary school teacher over a 4.5/10 ER doctor.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 03:20 AM
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Nailed it. Best answer on here
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 11:27 PM
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Agile PMs being useless? Work in software engineering long enough. Spot on.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 02:14 PM
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There's a recent thread on this sub where the study showed women like men significantly taller than them. I'm 6'4" and anecdotally I've had women tell me to my face that their first attraction to me was my height. Personally I've never had a problem getting dates. I have several female friends - single mothers and others who are childless women who are mid to late 30s at that - who won't date anyone under 6ft smh...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 06:27 AM
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These seem like both men and women problems. Men have children out of wedlock, and they are single fathers. This has been the case in times of yore. Are you saying that the levels of single parenthood back then and now are the same? Prior to the sexual revolution, the number of kids born out of wedlock was significantly smaller than today. Now it's 40%. In 1990 it was 24%. In the 60s, 70s? "But it takes two to tango!" - Sure but women are the gatekeepers of sex and also have a unilateral power t…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 03:07 AM
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Many have kids out of wedlock/are single mothers. In times of yore this was not the case. Seems like being a wife is worse than being a baby mama. Not only that, in the dating market most of these women somehow think that their value is the same or higher than when they didn't have kids and now they expect another man to come in and play step-father - wanting another man to pay premium for what another got for free/on discount.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 01:58 AM
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- Men and women are different and are attracted to different things. On the relationship marketplace, a high N-count woman and a high N-count man are not the same - they are valued differently. - Men wanting a friendly, agreeable, non-combative woman does not mean we want a doormat. We just want peace. - A woman's career does not matter to most men. What does this mean? All things equal, a guy would rather date an 8/10 pre school teacher over a 5/10 Ph.D holder. A guy would rather date a fit wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 03:33 AM
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Sounds pretty damn dangerous. I live in a city so this is par for the course in the US. I think that's a dick move no matter what - man or woman The difference is that it is not expected for the woman. Hell, I highly doubt that woman will view her man the same, or even stay with him, if he didn't protect her. But the man won't see anything wrong if his woman didn't help - because we understand our role. I think men that big this all up are longing for a way to feel necessary. I sympathize but it…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 11:16 PM
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Something that doesn't happen in most people's lifetimes so I don't know why this one is so popular of a hypothetical. I don't know where you live but crime is a daily occurrence in most places so this is definitely not a case of "doesn't happen in most people's lifetimes". At my university, women had to be escorted by male security guards or take a shuttle at night as they went home. Where I live, you'll rarely see a woman walk her dog at night without a male companion whereas during the day th…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 09:42 PM
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If you were given an archetype of an agreeable, submissive, non-combative man Men and women are different and attracted to different things. Also, men are expected to be protectors. So yes, they are held to a different standard. If someone broke into the house and the husband jumped out of the window and left his family there or if someone attacked his wife on the street and the husband took off running or did nothing, he would be a target of mockery from everyone - both men and women This would…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 02:55 PM
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You can be agreeable and non-combative without being a "doormat". It's funny woman are not combative when it is needed e.g Ukraine War. All of a sudden they are feminine women who need protection and asylum visas. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 05:36 AM
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That's the very lesser of two evils Evil 1: Therapy and Jay Z admitting on his album. Also Jay Z catching hands in the elevator from Solange Evil 2: Divorcing Jay Z and trying to find a man of similar stature that won't cheat. Diddy? Dr Dre? Nick Cannon? Future? Kanye West?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 12:40 AM
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CardiB as well. Alas, there is truth to HVM can exercise their options...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 12:35 AM
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So you're Solange...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 12:32 AM
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- Get in shape: Men are visual. If you're not fit it reduces your chances. Things like chest tattoos, bull rings etc further reduce your chances and relegate you to "for recreational use only" purposes. - Are you feminine? Agreeable? Non-combative? - The type of men you want...do you know what THEY want in a woman? If not, work on this. - Do you have any male friends/relatives that can keep it real with you? Since they know you well, ask them for their CANDID opinion of you, and also what you ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 11:42 PM
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damn
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 12:56 AM
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Shit's crazy. Women: men don't help with the kids Also women: let's prevent men from being involved with their kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 11:40 PM
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Show a study or an article where men en mass have shunned 50/50. Make it the law just like how property division upon divorce is 50/50 by law. Not 50/50 "if you ask for it". When asking for it means ton of legal fees. Hell, lawyers even advise their clients to not go for it if they don't have a strong case. Note: You still pay child support even with 50/50.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 10:45 PM
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The reason men don't want 50/50 custody False. Florida tried to make 50/50 custody the law and guess who opposed it? Not men. The reason?: “Not only will alimony be affected by the proposed legislation, but also timesharing,” Quick said. “The bill is calling for a 50/50 timeshare split. This affects child support payments. More timesharing equals less payments. ​ And not men are still opposing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 07:34 PM
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Smart man
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 07:30 PM
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They do, majority of the time
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 05:13 AM
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Child support, jail time, license suspension, denial of US passport etc
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 06:04 PM
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manipulative = I(woman) voluntarily did something for a guy but he ditched me/didn't reciprocate. strong kween/boss bih/secure the bag = I benefited from something a guy did for me. Sucka!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 03:47 AM
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It sucks that the MLS is where soccer superstars "come to die". Excited for Messi to join Inter Miami but damn MLS needs to revamp its reputation!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 03:40 AM
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There are different methods of calculating the rate. The cohort measure rate puts it at between 40-50%: The 40-50% number comes from a detailed analysis of various population demographics, including ages, life span projections, etc. It represents a sophisticated projection of a calculated risk, much like projected life span for babies born today. . . . [It] is a valid projection under current conditions and it pertains to new, first time marriages.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 03:47 PM
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This is refreshing to read, esp on this sub
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 04:52 AM
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Well said
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 04:37 AM
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Provide data to back your claims. I'm curious as well. Also regarding: Me: divorce rates arent important U: u diD not aDdRess my StaTistics The OP gave a clear and cogent argument against your false premise that the rates are not important. Yet you haven't provided anything to refute what he said - instead you've moved goal posts.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 04:36 AM
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It isn’t. Anyone who trains daily will tell you, that they feel ‘off’. If they don’t get a workout in. As it’s ‘their norm.’ Additionally when you’re training routinely, most are generally more conscientious with nutrition. 💯
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 11:52 PM
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Yes shared. But you are screwed even if you did nothing wrong. It's not like the judge will say "well since they cheated they get nothing". That's like two people owning a car and one person wrecks it drunk driving. Just because they owned half doesn't mean they didn't fuck the other person over
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 04:14 AM
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Very unlikely. Actually a 0% chance. But a marriage has a 50% chance of unravelling and 70% chance it's out of my control. Name one contact in life where the person who didn't break it gets punished.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 04:08 AM
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And alimony is just one of the perks. Your cheating spouse will walk away with half your retirement, cash, house if you own one etc. So you get screwed even if you did nothing wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 04:00 AM
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It doesn't prevent them. 7 states still have lifetime alimony and many still award spousal support/alimony. Most sex isn't grape, so does that means grape is fair/should be ignored? Just because an injustice happens a fraction of the time doesn't mean it is inconsequential.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 03:58 AM
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It's been that high and higher for second and third marriages. Marriages in the USA are at an all-time historic low. In the 70s the marriage rate was 76.5%...now it's at 31%. Things are "split fairly" depending on who you ask. If my spouse cheats on me and I end the marriage, is it fair that I should pay them lifetime alimony?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 03:35 AM
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Which society? The one where the divorce rate is 50%, and 70% of them are filed by women. Successful family units can exist without legal marriage. Many married couples are miserable. Children can be raised in a loving two parent home without marriage. Marriage does not automatically equal successful family unit.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 03:09 AM
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None of this requires marriage
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 01:59 AM
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Do the broke complainers have kids? I'm guessing they do that's why they stay. Which country are you in?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 01:49 AM
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There's a BBW category in porn. No BBM category.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 06:01 AM
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If Andrew Tate or Trump had tweeted something ridiculously misogynistic that got tens of thousands of likes I highly doubt you and your ilk would classify it as reductio ad absurdum
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 02:25 AM
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This destroys OP's whole argument. Well done
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 02:15 AM
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For what you ask? To improve my chances with women Herein lies your problem. Self improvement should PRIMARILY be for you. Everything else is a byproduct of self improvement. If you're doing it for women, you will be sorely disappointed if it doesn't work out. ​ Body self improvement worked for me was prompted by my doctor. I was at an unhealthy weight, living a sedentary and unhealthy lifestyle. Educational self improvement was triggered by me wanting to rise in the ranks in my profession, so I…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 04:08 AM
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Justine Wilson was an English Lit major and was married to Elon Musk for 8 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 02:25 AM
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and not care about their career, education, or life experience. Isn’t all that a big chunk of what makes a person who they are? "not care" for me means "you are not more attractive to me because of..". Now, will I date a homeless woman? No. But I have no problem dating a woman who works in retail, a pre school teacher, a hairdresser, a Yoga instructor etc as long as she meets my other criteria which to me are more important than her career/education. I've dated high-flying attorneys but the fact…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 03:22 PM
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Hiba Abouk is 36, Achraf Hakim is 24 (12 years) They dated since he was 18 and she was 31
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 02:25 AM
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Are you achieving this weight loss trifecta? - Diet: You need to have a calorie deficit - Consistent exercise - just like you are doing. - Sufficient rest/sleep: 7+ hours
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 05:59 PM
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Completely off the table, I refuse to be a cuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 03:26 AM
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Again with "most people". Where is your source? Obviously your anecdotes don't count as I have anecdotes that will counter yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 09:59 PM
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and most still get laid, go on dates, and most are married by their thirties. False. Marriage rates have dropped steeply (literally what the study is about) while 34% of women and 63% of men are single. Not sure where you are getting your data from. Most relationships at the start involve two people who are genuinely attracted to one another. Yes and various things, more than others, factor into attraction e.g height, finances, body type etc
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 02:58 AM
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Lmao sure sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 03:35 PM
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Women have made it clear that they want economically attractive men. i.e not broke.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 03:21 PM
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I don’t think big women are fetishized nearly as much as we think they are In porn there is a BBW category. Is there a broke man category?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 02:08 PM
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If you’re a fat woman, there’s little to nothing you can do to find a partner You can lose weight. No one is born overweight/obese
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 02:06 PM
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She’s certainly not struggling to eat, for one. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 02:05 PM
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that women are going to need some sort of compensation for putting their bodies through the harsh realities of pregnancy and labor. The facts and statistics paint a different picture. In 1990 only 28% of kids were born out of wedlock, right now it is 40%. Women are increasingly "putting their bodies through the harsh realities of pregnancy and labor" without any type of commitment or security from their boyfriends. The compensation you speak of mostly comes from the government in the form of wel…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 08:22 PM
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Maybe where you live
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/23 03:29 PM
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Maybe where you live. In my jurisdiction if you do it right they stand. The problem is people just print generic prenups from the internet(or write them themselves) then present it to their wife 2 days before the wedding. Of course this won't fly! There is a procedure to follow - Get your attorney to draft it - Present it to her attorney to review with her - Sign. This must done way in advance. 3+ months in advance. Best to even do it before proposing.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/23 02:08 PM
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I would only split 50/50 if we made nearly the same. Right now I make 3x what my girlfriend does and if we get married I would not expect her to chip in 50/50. I would be comfortable splitting it something like 70/30. She also doesn't want to be a SAHM which aligns with me as well so she'll keep working after kids. Don't get it twisted though, I'm still getting a (fair) prenup.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/23 02:11 AM
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In my state, I'll still pay $1800 for one child even with 50/50 and the mother earning similar to me. Shit's crazy
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 04:34 AM
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Thank you
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 04:29 AM
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Remember when Eminem blew up in the early 2000s and they dragged his ass all the way to the Senate for the lyrics of his song "Kill You". I wonder why? When black rappers rap about killing and their target audiences are our community there is zero resistance. Not only that, we consume that shit hungrily smh...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 12:37 AM
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These women circle back years later, with multiple kids from Pookie and RayRay. Talking about "hey big head, long time :)". Fucking hard pass.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 11:48 PM
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I was watching a documentary on Chicago "drill" rap and the narrator said something like "Lil Tuffy was the 4th rapper on this record label to be shot and killed". I was like, 4th rapper to get killed on the same record label??? In what other genre are artists getting murdered at this rate? And these were teens doing killing each other. Fucking crazy...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 11:43 PM
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Funny, women have made significant inroads in other cushy professions like law, medicine, academia, etc that have similar obstacles but when it comes to the dangerous, physically-grueling jobs all of a sudden somehow this is often the excuse they use them not participating 🧐🧐
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 07:05 PM
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Abuse and infidelity rates are almost the same for men and women. Lesbian couples have twice the divorce rate of gay men, and also a higher percentage of DV. Draw your own conclusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 03:22 AM
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So having a backbone? That's good, but I don't think the red pill is necessary for that. I don't think lacking a backbone is why some men struggle with getting relationships. It seems to come from lack of social skills than anything else. It is very necessary for that. The message for boys growing up is women are wonderful, queens, princesses, angels etc. It has nothing to do with social skills. You can be as social as you want but that doesn't mean you are immune from this "put women first" men…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 02:06 PM
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The only reason that makes sense to me is immigration
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 03:37 AM
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Get married and ruin your body to provide him with children Marriage is not a prerequisite or requirement for this. In fact, as of 2021 40% of kids in the USA are born to unmarried women. In 1990 this was 28%.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 03:33 AM
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- Maintaining frame. i.e not compromising on your core principles. Sayings like "happy wife, happy life" have been drilled into most men by society leading to men give up their identities for the sake of women and living miserable lives. - Avoid one-itis and embrace an abundance mindset. Many guys will stay in the friendzone waiting for their crush to change her mind or stay in miserable relationships because they think they can't get another one. She's not feeling you? Keep it moving. There are…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 03:18 AM
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From my understanding, red pill only means awareness of current social dynamics, understanding how they work and how to put them to your advantage to avoid walking into the slaughterhouse blindfolded. nailed it
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 01:53 AM
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Avoid antisocial behavior. Stay in school. Learn social skills and be liked by your peers. Lift. Apart from lifting this is just blue pill advice. Many guys grew up doing the above or have been doing this forever and it still didn't yield results for them. One of RP's main pillars is understanding women's nature. None of the above addresses that and this is key.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 01:49 AM
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?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 02:55 PM
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Either way women aren't the MOST important thing in life. 💯
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 02:55 PM
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I agree. Men should just not pin their hopes on self-improvement landing them women. Not a guarantee
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 07:48 AM
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Nope. Guys can get in shape, start making decent money, invest in self-care and still not pull women for whatever reason e.g height, competition from other guys etc. Point is, if you self-improve solely for women you will be sorely disappointed. Self-improve for yourself, enrich your own life. If someone comes along cool ...if not, at least you have a lot going for you to live a fulfilling life.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 06:21 AM
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Pedestalizing women.This is what boys are taught most of their lives and what is impressed upon men, especially undiscerning men. Notable mention: Anything portrayed in mainstream media such as The View, Oprah, Steve Harvey Show, Wendy Williams Show etc
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 06:04 AM
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What is your definition of high value? If you mean successful in professional life? No, I have not had trouble retaining them. They have had trouble letting me go. I'm in my mid 30s in a well-paying profession, 6ft+ and fit, multi-lingual, own my own place, well traveled and with a good social circle. I work remote and often travel to a different city (USA, Canada) to work for a month or so before coming back home. Many professionally successful women I meet are in their 30s and looking to settl…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 04:53 AM
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Yeah it sucks. I have friends in my circle similar to you and height 5'6 to 5'10. They have it rough in dating...and online dating bears no fruit for them. Nothing. This is in a large cosmopolitan city smh
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 04:25 AM
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Self improvement in order to attract women is a fool's errand. Most guys do this and when they don't get the anticipated results - women flocking - they get frustrated. Do it for you. Work out because health is wealth, seek therapy since a sound mind is fertile ground for optimistic thoughts and a positive mentality, pursue hobbies because they are fun and interesting to you etc etc . As you do this you will realize that things that you thought you were a "must have" in your life really aren't b…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 04:14 AM
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Those are not redpillers. One of RP's main tenets is take accountability. True RPers are not calling women out of their name - instead they acknowledge their own shortcomings and adjust accordingly(improve oneself, maintain frame, get rid of one-itis, cultivate an abundance mindset etc) without placing blame.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 12:59 AM
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Myron's full alias is Myron Gaines aka Admiring(Mirin') my Gains bruh?. Check his first videos before he met Fresh.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 04:04 AM
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Yes.. Mirin' my gains smh
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 03:56 AM
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​ I miss the days when little kids would admire professional athletes Ray Rice? Mike Tyson? Aaron Hernandez? Ben Roethlisberger? Tiger Woods?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 03:37 AM
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It's a play off of Admiring. Initially he used to go as Myron Gaines i.e Admiring my gains smh...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 03:35 AM
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Bill Burr addressed this in one of his specials (24:13 - 25:30)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 02:29 AM
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How you describe it is not how I've seen others describe it. They describe is more like 'here are ways to make your frame her reality', which seems quite manipulative/like brainwashing Well they are describing it wrong. The comment I linked and the description I gave are the accurate meaning. Don't compromise your fundamental principals. Women are good at this - If a woman is not happy in a relationship, she has zero problems ditching it and moving on. Guys will hold on and ride it til the wheel…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 11:39 PM
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💯
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 09:31 PM
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Then shouldn't women have frame too. Or should women roll over and be spineless. I don't mean what do redpill men prefer (I can guess, unfortunately); I mean, in life it's good to have things you believe in/will stand for.. for everyone. Women have an advantage in the dating market so they are less likely to tolerate BS since they have many options. Most guys don't have the same options so they are more likely to compromise their principles for the sake of a woman. "If I lose her I won't get ano…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 09:00 PM
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Frame? Isn't that just teaching guys not to compromise/take a 'my way or the high way' approach? This comment gives a good description of what frame is. Women often don't like that. Many women dump/divorce based on a man being too inflexible/rigid. That's ok. Better have someone who's on the same page as you instead of simping or tolerating things that go against who you are. Having this mentality is congruent with other core tenets of redpill: Avoid one-itis. Have an abundance mindset It's just…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 04:56 PM
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Redpill advises men to take accountability, improve themselves, maintain frame and understand female nature. And truth be told most women prefer masculine men over feminine men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 02:54 PM
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It means making changes that will get you the results you desire. Men complaining about what women find attractive is a fool's errand because it's not going to change anything. Instead, figure out what that is and work towards it. Also as user milfbucket below has suggested there are other options to get what you want. It's basic problem solving. You have a problem, how do you solve it? Sit and complain or find a solution? The game has changed, learn the new rules.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 02:45 PM
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Now that they can provide for themselves, they are able to be more selective when it comes to a man’s looks, personality, sense of humor, values, political views…etc. And you are forgetting income which is a huge part of woman's attraction. Women are now complaining that there are no economically attractive men I agree that men need to adapt to the times. This is why redpill is useful - it opens men's eyes to what really matters when it comes to women. Adapt to the rules of today's dating market…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 02:19 AM
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Kevin was doing god's work for the black community. Marry before you carry, maintain a healthy weight, build families, have reasonable dating standards etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 01:58 AM
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He's basically quoting Sean Connery and Shahrazad Ali. The Lead Attorney is giving men an inside look into divorce court for men. Of course this might trigger women because he's exposing the BS of marriage and divorce courts.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 01:46 AM
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No. 1) Kevin Samuels - especially his videos from 2017-2020 when he solely critiqued men. Don't be lazy, dress appropriately, get your $$ up, maintain a healthy weight, marry before having children etc 2) The Lead Attorney - Family law attorney who gives solid advice to men about what to expect in marriages and how to prepare for it if you want to go down that route.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 01:35 AM
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If we are going to talk about age as a so called imbalance creator, let's talk about financial, educational, intelligence and beauty imbalance etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 03:06 AM
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She's old enough to make an informed decision. She's also old enough to vote, enlist in the militarty and run for senate and congress. She's also old enough to know that there are desperate men on OF that she can take advantage of.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 03:00 AM
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Consentually dating an older man under no one's influence isn't either. And you didn't answer my other questions. If I make 3x my girlfriend, did I manipulate her to be with me? If my GF has a PhD and I have high school diploma is she manipulating me? Did my girlfriend prey on me? Or is she a strong modern woman who can date a man who makes less than her and is less educated than her?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 02:55 AM
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A 30 year old man can single out a 30 year old woman and vice versa. We are talking about the manipulation aspect. An18/19/20/21...40+ yo OF model knows damn well what she's doing, she's preying on the weakness/desires of men for a profit. I wouldn't pay for or use OF, but there are men who will and women know this. But when that same 18 yo has a consensual relationship with an older man, all of a sudden there's outrage. Where's the outrage for OF? Not only that... where does manipulation start …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 02:47 AM
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Many schools offer scholarships exclusively for women. There are also numerous state and federal grants for women. Nothing wrong with that, but seems like there has been an over correction. As a result women now lament that there's a lack of economically attractive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 01:49 AM
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Translation: "I have no argument or rebuttal so I'll resort to ad hominem attacks" 😂😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 01:37 AM
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I was giving you an example so you'd understand what I'm saying. Your example made no sense because 13 years old is not the age of consent and anyone that is sane would know that is morally and legally wrong. The normalization of 18 year Old sleeping with 30 or 40 year old is frowned upon for a reason . If it's nothing wrong with it then normalize it ? Would you fine with the normalization of 30/40 year old men actively seeking 18 year Olds? Just think about it for a second I am ok with adults e…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 01:20 AM
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13 year old? You all always go for the extreme. We know damn well no one is talking about underage kids. It's not a different topic. An 18 year old female can make money off of men of all ages on these sites . Not only that they can vote and enlist in the army (where they can die). Look at the man saying he wants Damn near a child exclusively which man?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 01:05 AM
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OnlyFans is for 18 and older. So the 18,19,20... year old women on only fans are manipulating men of all ages to send them money?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 12:51 AM
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Why do men who go overseas feel the need to talk about it and tell other people to do so? If you want to find women elsewhere more power to you, but what do you get out of promoting it? It's bizarre. To promote awareness. It's like someone going to a restaurant then writing a review on Yelp. They are only getting women, in superficial interactions, because the countries they go to are frequently more impoverished. I can't even think of a passport bro clip I've seen anywhere where the guy was eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 04:37 AM
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Not only that, the proportions are HUGE in the US. A small ice-cream here is a large in other countries. In addition we live in a mostly sedentary society. Other countries heavily utilize bicycles, walking and other public transportation to get around.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 03:45 AM
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This is true
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 04:18 PM
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I was comparing it to some east coast cities like NYC, Boston and Philly. Most women I approached in Toronto at events, bars etc were friendly and many also approached me. Maybe it was the area I was in? (near U of Toronto). I am not doubting what you said, I'm sure things have changed.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 10:44 PM
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In Toronto, they tell you to fuck off and ignore you/are very standoffish most of the time. How times have changed. I spent time in Toronto in 2014, 2015, 2016 and the women were some of the friendliest I've ever met.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 08:11 PM
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Everyone who gets married has a prenup. If you don't choose to make your own you inherit the one defined by your state's family laws. Do you want a one-size-fits-all prenup or one customized to your situation?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 04:27 AM
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Abuse is the default excuse for some women to avoid accountability, gain sympathy and cloak themselves in victimhood. There's that only fans model who killed her BF not too long ago and she's claiming he abused her yet elevator footage, arrest records, numerous texts/emails, as well as testimony from friends attest that she was the abusive one
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/23 05:33 AM
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Facts
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/23 01:51 AM
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High school minimum. As long as they have a good job, are fit, feminine, pleasant and nurturing I'm good.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/23 04:36 AM
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Nothing. Ever heard the saying "hit dogs holler"? People will balk at preferences that others have which cast them in a negative light. Nothing. Make your own set. If you want fit, feminine, friendly and cooperative - do it. If you want chubby, masculine, combative - do it. However make sure that you position yourself in such a way to be able to attract what you are looking for. No. I'm a guy who is > 6ft and an athletic 200 lbs so I don't vet for women who match my metrics. I vet for women who …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/23 04:14 AM
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Not a user, that's just the I of SIGN language (Shame Insults Guilt Need to be Right) All relationships are transactional, don't let anyone tell you otherwise!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/23 04:05 AM
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If all you romantics believe in soul mates and pair bonding why the fuck do you need a piece of paper and a ceremony to prove how dedicated you are to each other? ...but but but we save on taxes... -_-
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/23 10:58 PM
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lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/23 05:55 PM
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I suggest talking to lawyers ASAP then
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 06:03 AM
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I work in this space. Yes you can you just need to enlist the services of a lwayer
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 06:00 AM
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You should have got a Health Care Directive and that would've granted you the access you needed. Everything you can get via marriage you can get via legal processes, you just need to pay for it...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 05:59 AM
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How will she support your kids if you die? You can get life insurance and a will. Many people do this - remember 50% of marriages end in divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 05:46 AM
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This is a smart move especially for men with options. Christiano Ronaldo is a perfect example of this - he's executed this perfectly. The average duration of a marriage in the US is 7 years - so it's up to you. Pick your poison.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 05:45 AM
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Yes, most are just normal average guys in terms of character and earnings(9-5 job, college educated, have their own place etc) but they are short. 5'5" - 5'8". I live in a large cosmopolitan area so competition is stiff here for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 04:31 AM
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I agree, being dependent on anyone is a bad idea. I was just pointing out that these "boss women" are now complaining/blaming men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/23 05:52 AM
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These statistics suggest that women are becoming more independent. They are focusing on career, education, autonomy and freedom This is going well for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 08:58 PM
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Something I don't see being touched on is how whether patriarchy or matriarchy has won when a split occurs. The entities that win are the following: 1) The government. State governments get paid off of CS payments The Federal government reimburses states for 66 percent of allowable child support outlays. 2) Whoever has custody. In the USA 83% of mothers have custody, meaning child support payments that bolster item 1) above. Can't stop the cash cow! 3) Not the kids - CS and custody is often fram…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 06:32 AM
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Are you making assumptions that the mother is wasting the child support money in herself? There is no proof that the mother uses all this money on the child. I have a credit card through my employer. Every transaction I make I have to justify for me to be reimbursed. Therefore my employer can verify I spent the money on business expenses. If I bought $200 Jordans, I would not get reimbursed. CS has no such accountability system. ​ But we then have to ask why the father left to begin with. That's…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 06:01 AM
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Nailed it
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 10:46 PM
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Divorce is highly normalized in the US, unless your religious there's basically no stigma. In fact women who divorce are seen as "strong kweens sticking it to the patriarchy". So a wife sticking it out in a marriage is good in my books.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 07:53 AM
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I wouldn't call them hookers, no need for disrespect. I would hold them in higher esteem than those who bail because at least they are placing the value of family above self.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 07:46 AM
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Women who complain about husband as additional child, household chore division, etc... Why aren't they just divorcing? They are. Aren't 70% of divorces filed by women?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 07:28 AM
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I saw another clip of a lawyer of 20 years telling a group of ladies “I’ve seen more men break down about losing kids, equity in a home, money, etc. women don’t lose anything from divorce” (something along those lines, can’t find the exact clip rn cuz I’m at work but I’ll edit and link it later) and one of the ladies interrupted asking “how do you know women have anything to lose? 🤓” Here's the clip. The guy speaking is The Lead Attorney
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 11:27 PM
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Waiting til marriage is a boss move. F the haters.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 06:48 AM
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He was a much need voice in our(black) community. Many of the issues we face boil down to lack of a family structure(BW are married at a 28% rate vs WW and Asian W > 50%). Kevin was a big advocate of having kids inside wedlock, therapy, trying to make relationships work, and having realistic goals etc. Compared to other manosphere content creators he was the most level headed and I'd say most loved by both men and women. You won't find women on FnF videos thanking them but go to Kevin's videos a…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 04:49 PM
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It's true in the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 05:57 PM
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Exactly. John will get his shit garnished and even if he somehow managed to dodge that he would have his tax refunds, stimulus checks etc garnished. If all fails his license will be suspended and he'll have jail-time looming over his head. If he quits his job to work at McDonalds his income will be imputed and he will still have to pay as if he earned 100k
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 02:52 AM
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Alimony is for the spouse, not kids. Alimony is based on a couple of factors such as the relative earnings of both spouses, the duration of the marriage etc. As far as I know there's no mathematical formula other than alimony is usually granted for a duration of number of years married divided by two. Well unless you live in a lifetime alimony state. Yikes! Child support is usually mathematical formula. You input your incomes and other criteria such as custody sharing into a spreadsheet or onlin…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 02:48 AM
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401K/IRA are retirement plans that's why I asked OP to be specific. As far as social security: If you are divorced, your ex-spouse can receive benefits based on your record (even if you have remarried) if: Your marriage lasted 10 years or longer. Your ex-spouse is unmarried. Your ex-spouse is age 62 or older. The benefit that your ex-spouse is entitled to receive based on their own work is less than the benefit they would receive based on your work. You are entitled to Social Security retirement…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 01:05 AM
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That must be specific to your state and or that particular situation. My state has no such requirement. Could have been married 2 years...you are splitting that 401K/IRA etc Deceased husband sounds more of a probate issue. Edit: Sounds like you're talking about Social Security
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 12:12 AM
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Alimony is rarely awarded - and even if it is, usually just a few years. Stay-at-home moms are pretty much guaranteed awarded alimony. The scenarios where it's rare is if they are both working and there is a gap in income e.g one partner making 120K, the other 50K. Esp since their marriage is under a decade, she doesn’t even get his retirement benefits What benefits? Monetary retirement benefits earned in the marriage are split accordingly.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 11:50 PM
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Nothing but facts 🤝
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 02:16 AM
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Muggsy Bogues was 5'3" and a stellar NBA player. Nate Robinson was 5'9" and had an illustrious career in the NBA. Are majority of the NBA players under 6 feet? Exceptions don't disprove the rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/23 04:19 AM
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It's not, but for the sake of your argument, let's say 40%. So 4/10 marriages compared to 5/10. I would not get on a rollercoaster ride if there was a 40% chance of me being flung off the ride like a slingshot. I wouldn't jump off a plane if there was a 40% chance of my parachute not opening.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/23 03:16 AM
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Nah. Here’s a sourcethat says men are actually richer post divorce. Women are known consumers so no surprise men are richer post divorce. "Women make up more than half of the U.S. population, and control or influence 85% of consumer spending" But anyway - that divorced man is still poorer than your typical married couple. Because married people have more money - but yes, if your conditions change, your wealth is likely to change too. Lol of course. 1) Men are breadwinners 72% of the time so of c…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 06:22 AM
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What is happening is people stick together for the kids then ultimately divorce and the wealth dissipates. Average American marriage lasts 7 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 06:04 AM
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Wealthier until divorce. Sure. And nothing prevents cohabitations from being as wealthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 05:25 AM
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Good marriages. 50% end in divorce and who knows how many others are held together "for the kids". Children do well when both parents are involved, marriage is not a slam dunk for this.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 04:39 AM
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What are the child support laws like in China?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 04:11 AM
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Watch this
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 03:56 AM
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It's part of their SIGN language. Shame Insults Guilt Need to be right
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/23 04:36 AM
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Do your thing. Ignore the haters
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/23 04:33 AM
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You’re implying that “as an experienced older woman” - you’re better for ithe experience and men should appreciate that about you. Well, newsflash, none of us do. Ideally men prefer youth and complete lack of experience in general. Error 404: No lies found!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/23 04:28 AM
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The newspaper is but a messenger. This was a study from Cornell and was published in the Journal of Marriage and Family.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 06:48 AM
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Truth. I played in a co-ed league with a bunch of high powered ivy-league attorneys. Most were single. After our games we would go for drinks and these women would say exactly what you said. "I'd give up my job to be a SAHM if I got married".(I'm paraphrasing). Maybe it was the stress of their jobs? I don't know. It was baffling because of how high achieving these women were and how much they had sacrificed to get there.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 06:39 AM
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How many people are millionaires paying alimony? All this outrage over hypothetical millionaires paying alimony LOL! Yea forgive me if I’m not concerned there are way more single mother’s struggling financially than millionaires paying alimony. I already gave an example of non-millionaires. Single mothers who are struggling should have chosen better. Today we have the highest number of single mothers in history so if they are having babies with bums who dodge child support that's on them. And ye…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 12:30 AM
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Less than 10% of divorces result in alimony so why you keep bringing it up is beyond me 10% is greater than 0%. 10% of 1M is 100K which is not a paltry amount. Women have assets, women contribute to assets gained in a marriage. Lol you keep going on about “assets split” AS IF only men buy/invest in property and stocks. AS IF most households don’t have the man and woman contributing to the bills. Everything you mention is NOT gender specific anyone can be on the hook for their spouses debt, anyon…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 06:56 PM
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Exactly YOU do those things its not done for you for free. It's done for free because the bank does not compensate me. If I clear the brush from my backyard and start a garden, the landlord will NOT compensate me for my labor(landscaping, garden etc) when I move, let alone when I break the lease. In a marriage its mostly women doing home maintenance, housework and childcare not the man. Are they being forced to do these things? Sounds like not being married would be a better deal for them then, …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 06:43 PM
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Not exactly divorce is quite complicated how assets are divided is not cut and dry and usually assets acquired before the marriage are in a different category. Not sure where you live but in my jurisdiction(USA), assets acquired before marriage remain yours but *any* appreciation during the marriage is split. So if I had 1000 stocks that were $10 when we got married but $100 when we divorced, I'd still have my 1000 stocks but would have to fork out $45k([100,000 -10,000]/2) to my spouse. She did…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 10:36 PM
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You mean child support? No, this could happen even without marriage. Alimony. This is not for SAHPs only. You can have a good job and still get alimony. Asset Appreciation. For instance, I own stocks and options that I've earned through the sweat of my brow. If I get married and the stocks continue to appreciate in value and my spouse files for divorce, they get half of that the appreciation even though they did not help me earn those assets. Debts. If your spouse racked up debt those will be sp…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 05:05 PM
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Last I checked when you rent an apartment or get a car loan it doesn’t involve you providing “unpaid” labor for the landlord or car dealer False. I fix the car and the bank doesn't pay me. I modify the engine, paint the car buy custom rims etc. The bank does not pay me. If I bail on the loan contract the bank is NOT going to compensate me for that. Same with a rental. Women’s time and labor is not free. Neither is the man's.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 04:39 PM
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100%. Many people are stuck in marriages they hate. At least with my non-married partner I know that she's there because she really loves me. Not because "it's expensive to leave"
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 01:20 AM
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No, anyone can get out of a contract, but should they be rewarded for it? I sign a year long rental lease at an apartment and half way through, I decide to leave because I'm not happy. Does the landlord pay out the ass to me? Does he get to pay me to maintain my standard of living if I move to another apartment? I buy a car using a bank loan. If I decide to shirk the contract do I get rewarded? Does the bank pay me for breaking the loan contract? etc etc. This is the BS that most people hate whe…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 01:18 AM
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You can lead a horse to water...
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 01:10 AM
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mom: 6 to 8/10 kid: burps and farts at the dinner table. Occasionally blurts out "you are not my dad!"
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 01:09 AM
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Be wary of bringing her back to the US. Seen people do this and it did NOT end well.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 01:08 AM
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True. And I see this a lot at my gym and strength training classes
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 01:06 AM
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It's a bad idea to lead with your money. You'll end up attracting the wrong type of woman. That said, there's no magical number but most women date guys who make equal or more than them. 100k is definitely not low unless you are in NYC, SF or another high cost of living area. Don't lead with your wallet bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/22 05:01 AM
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No-fault divorce exists where I live, so nothing is really (more) certain
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 04:42 AM
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Insults, awesome. Very mature
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 02:40 PM
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More than 0%. Which is more than necessary. In my state you can get alimony because you earn *less*. My neighbor earns 300K and his ex-wife a pharmacist earns over 100K and she still gets alimony. Not for life but for 6 years. In addition to this child support.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 02:31 AM
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Not only that. Income-wise, women marry across and higher most of the time
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 01:45 AM
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Ok, where are your sources that "men get custody in a similar percentage to women if they fight just as hard for their kids as the woman does" ? I'll take a "a Pennsylvanian lawyer's site" over a PPD randos anectodal evidence. And I know no matter how much evidence I present regarding women opposing the law, it still will not satiate you. Nothing new here.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 01:41 AM
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Maybe you missed the 'just as hard as'. Eh, most women are handed custody. You never hear "women should fight for custody". Not sure why you are linking me to a subreddit. The subreddit has several links to articles which explain and have links to the 50/50 bill that was heavily opposed by women groups. Of course fighting for custody isn't free and on average women have fewer resources to do it. Lol, that's why the husbands are made to payfor their wives attorneys.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 01:27 AM
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Many men, due to one-itis(scarcity mentality) will fold under the pressure to get married. Smart men like Leonardo Di Caprio, Diddy, Jack Dorsey, 50 Cent, Christiano Ronaldo etc see marriage for exactly what it is: a wealth transfer, and give it a wide berth. Your average man, however, wants constant sex, companionship etc and will sacrifice himself at the altar of matrimony to get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 12:44 AM
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Me: what are the chances of me getting the children? Lawyer: none Me: ok let's fight anyway Lawyer:WTF? But but you should fight for your kids! /s
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 12:37 AM
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men get custody in a similar percentage to women if they fight just as hard for their kids as the woman does I fucking hate this argument. Why does a man have to "fight" to see his kids? Why not have a law that defaults to 50/50 custody(just like marital property law defaults to 50/50)?Oh wait, we tried that and guess who opposed it. Hint: not men. Fighting for custody is not free, and many times the man has already spent a shit-ton of money on the divorce itself and in many cases has already pa…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 12:37 AM
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so much as the prospect of actually spending years raising a child on their own. Marriage does not preclude this.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 12:25 AM
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🤝
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/22 07:54 PM
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can a woman go from naturally dominant to submissive, and can a man go from naturally submissive to dominant, or can that not be changed? Can a lion go from hunting prey to grazing in the Serengeti? Can a fish go from living in water to frolicking on land? Some things are biologically wired and cannot be changed.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/22 02:06 AM
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Do you think there should be a weight filter Yes or at least a body-type filter. and why😂 You nailed it 😂. Height is important for some people as is weight/body-type.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 02:16 PM
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I already addressed why there isn’t a weight filter. Sure. It's because of body composition 😂. That's the reason 😂. It's quite telling that the only opposers on this thread are women. I get it weight is a sensitive issue but the hamstering on here is laughable. You’re welcome to ask women yourself and screen accordingly in the absence of an official filter. Discerning folks can tell weight from pics. It's just more of a manual process.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 02:00 PM
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Good. So then it would be beneficial for all
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 01:31 PM
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True. But prior to it I'd used others like Gucci, Burberry, Tom Ford and never received the same reactions. I was walking down an aisle in CVS and this lady (who was with her husband) told me she liked it and asked what it was lol
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 07:25 AM
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Word. it's expensive but worth it. What's LV?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 07:19 AM
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1988? ok. Most women don't know the difference between 5'8" and 5'10" ....big whoop. But the height filter is still there. My point is, **there doesn't even exist a weight filter at all**. Whether it's used or not, whether guys can tell the difference or not. It does not exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 07:07 AM
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I don’t disagree, but men aren’t placing heavy emphasis on weight as a static #, they’re placing emphasis on how the woman’s body type LOOKS. Source? so applying male preference filters is only going to deter women from using the apps whether we like that answer or not. So at least we agree that the existence of a height fiter but the lack of a weight filter is lopsided. Even if the option existed and no one used it, it's better than it's non existence
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 06:55 AM
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You're right. But men have more muscle mass and women more fat. In addition, more women place more emphasis on height as a factor for mates and men place more emphasis on weight. So it's no surprise that height is the only metric on dating sites.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 06:47 AM
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Lol, nice try. I'll leave it at that. That applies to *you*. For someone who is into fitness and values weight, a weight filter might be useful. OK, if metrics are not important why are height filters on these sites?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 06:32 AM
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Sounds like a whole bunch of copium. If someone is 5'6" and 180lbs that paints a clear picture. But if their profile only says 5'6" it doesn't. We all know why weight is not a filter on dating sites... 😂 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 06:20 AM
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Hinge
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 06:18 AM
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yes
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 06:11 AM
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😂 😂 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 04:35 AM
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Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 04:30 AM
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**only has face pics**
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 04:29 AM
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Dating sites have height filters but not weight filters 😂 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 04:26 AM
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even if it takes going halfway around the world! I hear you and I'm with you. But as a dude who's from the other side of the world, the only way I'd encourage this is if you stayed out there. If you brought her here you're fucked (seen this happen to my friends). If you get her and stay there, cool. But bringing her here, it's a wrap for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 04:10 AM
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It's a great parfum. The only one that I've received compliments from strangers. Disclaimer: I do use a lot of other designer ones but this is the only one that elicited compliments from random strangers. Also the girls I dated were extremely vocal about it. One even stated that "you smell so good it should be a superpower".
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 04:01 AM
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No need for tester. I bought it sight unseen(unsmelled?). No regrets. I get compliments everywhere I go. This is the only parfum where that has happened. Here is a list of folks that have complimented me on it: - Parking attendant - Trader Joe's cashier - Uber driver - Massage therapist - My (female) dentist - Co-workers
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 03:58 AM
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Fellaz, you need to have Baccarat Rouge 540 by Maison Francis Kurkdjian(from the official website) in your parfum collection. Thank me later.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 01:52 AM
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He had 3 kids too. His monthly bill for alimony + CS(50/50) was NUTS.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 03:15 AM
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When women turn 18 and use their bodies to make money (from men of all ages) on onlyfans and other platforms, is that ick?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 03:04 AM
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Goal was based AF too
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 02:53 AM
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Don't forget Jay Z
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 02:50 AM
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Who gives a fuck if you have that level of wealth Will Smith gives a fuck. Did you see the Red Table interview with Jada where they discussed the "entanglement"? Dude had balancing tears.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 02:33 AM
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Alimony is based on income disparity. Could be a SAHP vs Working Parent or a high earning parent vs lower earning parent. A friend of mine is a doctor making 300K and his ex-wife is a nurse making 120K and he is paying alimony for 6 years (they were married for 11)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 02:27 AM
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You have no proof that she did anything. She has never been arrested and no one has come forward. I can’t believe anyone takes an Instagram comedian/rapper that seriously. Proof is her admitting. So if female sexual assault victims don't come forward then the assault didn't happen? ​ It’s funny how you can say “see countless threads on sub” about body counts but you can’t say the same about being shamed for wanting a normal size woman. I wonder why? Because it’s never happened. My point is that …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 09:02 AM
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But Cardi never said she goes around robing men. You’re using a rapper who raps about worse shit as an example and it’s just not going to work. How old are you? Eminem would’ve had you shaking back in the day. What are you talking about? She actually confessed: Eminem rapped about killing his mother and wife. Did he do it? You're comparing someone who actually admitted to committing a crime to someone who didn't. Men are not shamed for stating they don’t date big women. I’m a big woman and I wou…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 08:07 PM
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Cardi B running her mouth about robbing men is not the same as making fun of someone’s appearance. Find another example because that isn’t one. You're right it's not the same. What she did was worse. I'd rather have someone make fun of me than drug me and rob me. My point was that since she's a woman she got a pass. Women say and do shit things to men and it's widely accepted. ​ Stating a preference shouldn’t be offensive. Men make it offensive by saying things like “I don’t date fatties”. Doesn…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 07:02 PM
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Everyone who has publicly "made fun" of Lizzo has received public backlash. Jillian Michaels, Aries Spears etc. You can talk shit about a man (heck, you can even admit to drugging and robbing them like Cardi B) and you'll be fine. And women do say these things unprovoked when stating their dating preferences, which is fine. Just don't be mad when men state their preferences and you don't like what you hear.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 06:15 PM
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You can doubt all you want. Believe it or not, some of us care about our bodies. And this here is an example. A man with preferences that women don't like is lonely depressed and everything else. If I was here accepting fat women this would not be an issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 06:03 PM
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I misread their comment, thought it said "low value" now. So yes, I agree that they have insane value now
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 03:28 PM
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No one is foisting fat women onto you. Being fat is unhealthy but nowhere in mainstream society is this message emphasized especially when it comes to women. Instead fat acceptance is preached. Men say they prefer skinny women all the time Behind closed doors. Women can go on daytime TV and talk shit about men (I don't want no broke man, he has to be 6 feet!) Any guy who says the same about preferring skinny women will be crucified, called misogynistic etc. Steve Harvey is a TV Host. His show al…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 03:24 PM
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The BMI for overweight is 25–29.9. I was 6'3" 235 pounds which put me at 29.4. This was in my mid to late 20s when I played rugby so I was active but not health conscious. I had muscle definition but also def had fat in some areas. That's why I asked for your BMI. Looks are not equivalent to BMI.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 05:37 AM
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What was your BMI? I was massively overweight about 8 years ago and still looked fit. When I went for my physical my doctor told me without mincing his words that I needed to lose weight for my health. He didn't sugarcoat it, he didn't care about my feelings. Straight up told me to lose weight loss or I will likely develop chronic diseases. I wasn't even 30 yet. I got off my ass and went to the gym, ate healthier, adopted an active lifestyle and the weight dropped.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 05:23 AM
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Women also talk shit about short men, broke men, balding men. These attacks are not gender specific. Go to the tinder sub if you need proof.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 04:57 AM
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Anecdotal. I've seen the same for women. A guy has a different opinion from a woman and all of a sudden he has small D energy, is a man-child, misogynistic etc
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 04:44 AM
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3 versions. Can you find a men's magazine that promotes the same "this is healthy" message for fat guys? And I mean, explicitly promote. Not a fat guy in a suit or a fat sumo wrestler.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 04:40 AM
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I could say the same thing for men. The women deserve it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 04:36 AM
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Guys are not mad at fat women. Guys are mad that fat women are foisted on them. If a guy went on national TV and said he prefers skinny women instead of fat, how do you think that will go? Guys hate that fat acceptance is pushed on them. Many women-centric TV shows like The View, Wendy Williams etc often talk shit about men and no one bats an eyelid. If Steve Harvey talked shit about women he'd lose his show on the spot.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 04:35 AM
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https://www.healthline.com/health/plus-size-bloggers-health
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 04:17 AM
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https://hips.hearstapps.com/hmg-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/images/sophie-1608131331.png?resize=480:*
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 04:16 AM
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There’s 1 magazine that says “this is healthy”ONE! That’s what’s triggering you, nice moving of goal posts btw ​ False: - https://hips.hearstapps.com/hmg-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/images/callie-1608131330.png?resize=480:* - https://i.pinimg.com/736x/30/9c/9b/309c9bcc16c49c24edba9688ba1077f0.jpg
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 04:12 AM
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https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-truth-about-your-health/201508/fat-fit-and-the-cover https://www.healthista.com/the-rise-of-the-fit-fat-girl-meet-the-curvy-women-finally-proving-that-fat-does-not-mean-unfit/
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 04:06 AM
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That Baston article is literally the second magazine that comes up for me. Your results change depending on your country idiot. Baston guy is *exercising* not fat promoting. No "fat and fit" verbiage anywhere like the women magazines. Thanks for the insult, very mature. I'm in healthcare. No such thing as fat and fit. Cosmo has 3+ covers of different "models" with "This is healthy" vs zero magazine covers for men with "this is healthy". I noticed you didn't address Time and Rick Ross. Good. Even…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 04:01 AM
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Also re:Chris Christy he actively decided to lose weight. None of that "beautiful at any size" nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 03:38 AM
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Lol. None of these were in the first 7 rows. I'm sure if I scrolled further down I'd have found more women on magazine covers. Anyway: - I already mentioned Rick Ross. Did you want me to mention every magazine Tess Holiday is in? - Time. Chris Christy? That's like me providing a link to a Stacy Abrams cover. That has nothing to do with fat promotion. Chris is not shirtless and/or saying this is healthy. - Baston guy ran marathon, he wasn't promoting fat living.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 03:34 AM
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- Men's health: I only saw one article with body positivity. The rest are a before-and-after type situations promoting weight loss. - ESPN is the same as The Cut article I referenced - Baston - I couldn't find this. What row is it in? - TIME: Only found this where a man is actually lifting weights - Rolling Stone - I couldn't find this. What row is it in?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 03:19 AM
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Similarly where men are degraded by women. Short, broke, small D energy, man-child etc. The difference is women get a pass. On "The View", they can disparage men and the audience laughs their hearts out. A man doing the same will be cancelled so fast it will make his head spin.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 03:06 AM
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This is patently false. Looking at the first 7 rows of images: Women: - Nicole Byer -Tess Holiday - Women's Running - FabuPlus (lol) - Cosmopolitan (3 covers) - Allure (Lizzo) - The Independant - Glamour - The Conversation - Yes Magazine ​ Men: - The Cut - Vibe Magazine (Rick Ross) ​ I scrolled further down and fat promotion among women still dominated the images
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 03:02 AM
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Also, how many positivity phrases exist for men? "Broke and handsome", "homeless and sexy", "jobless and attractive" ?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 02:41 AM
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PLENTY of obese men have been shirtless on the cover of magazines A quick Google search of "fat women on magazines" vs "fat men on magazines" (select the Images tab) shows that this is a lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 02:39 AM
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referring to people categorized as overweight / obese as everyone euphemism in the book but those words. Facts. ​ Society: I'm big-boned, big and beautiful, plus-size, thick. therealcosmicnebula: you're obese Society: how dare you!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 02:28 AM
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I lived in Europe for a while. First thing I noticed when I arrived was that the populace was thinner/more fit. This was likely due to lifestyle such as a lot of walking, cycling to work as opposed to driving. Whatever the case, it was a jarring surprise. Weight gain is highly preventable (and more importantly deleterious to one's health) but since we promote weight gain under the guise of beauty, no one has the incentive to change.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 02:16 AM
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If you are a thin woman you have insane value now. Source? Not true at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 02:04 AM
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Not only that, being a fat woman is heralded in American society. Big women posing almost nude on magazine covers, phrases like "big beautiful woman" etc. Can you imagine if being a broke or short man was praised? "short handsome man", "broke handsome man" lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 02:02 AM
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but I am curious what are the bigger girls doing? Not a goddamn thing. Obesity and being overweight is normalized in our society("beautiful at any weight", "big beautiful woman" etc) so they don't have to worry about it like you are in this post. Besides, they still get a lot of attention and I'm sure have no problem getting likes/laid on OLD and real life. Myself I like fit women but can't knock the guys who love big girls, to each their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 01:47 AM
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Smart man
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 11:35 PM
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but IME women will let convos die quickly if you don’t continuously carry it. In fact, I’ll often times “dead end” a convo just to gauge her level of investment. If she ghosts over something small like having to continue a convo then ✌🏾 Same here. When I was on OLD, not only did I "dead end" convos but I never responded to messages like "hi", "hey" etc no matter how hot the woman was. Intro messages where they mentioned something about my profile and showed interest by asking questions were all …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 11:07 PM
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You shouldn't either then.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 10:27 PM
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Facts
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 10:07 PM
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In this day and age of equality, romancing should go both ways. One way romancing (man->woman) is simping
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 10:07 PM
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But, but she supported him, she was his rock!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 04:30 PM
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A child after the age of 14-15 years of age stops fearing his/her mother. Now that doesn't mean the child won't obey her, but chances decrease substantially. A father figure is extremely important to teach the child discipline and self-control. This is the time when they ship off the kid to live with the father or spend more time with the father. Once the damage is done. I saw it many times growing up...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 04:28 PM
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Men usually walk away from their kids or with little custody because they don't want it. Reality is that being the non custodial father suits most men so they prefer not to do it and leave women with the heavier load of parenting. Source? Whenever there is an effort to level the playing field, guess who opposes it? Hint: It's not men. ​ It's fair in that if you want something you have to go through the process. It costs everyone. "Go through the process" is relative. If I want a pizza sure I can…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 04:17 PM
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When men fight for custody they usually get it. This right here points to the unfairness. Why do they have to "fight for custody"? Why do some states still default to the Tender Years doctrine (i.e mother gets child by default)? Fighting for custody is not free. If it was fair, the law would be 50/50 custody by default and if there are extenuating circumstances, adjust the custody accordingly.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 12:34 PM
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joint custody is often a disaster The only argument I've seen for this is that shuttling the kids back and forth creates instability for them. But this is just a ruse - the real reason is that joint custody reduces the amount of child support that's why joint custody is unpalatable to those who spout this falsehood.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 12:28 PM
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but one has to also realize there are no good solutions when most marriages breakdown. A good solution would be to make child custody 50/50 by law, barring extenuating circumstances. In my state the mother basically has to be a dope fiend/criminal/mentally ill for you even get a sniff of 50/50. Majority of the custody plans for fathers are every other weekend and a weekday dinner. Doesn't matter how good of a dad you are. The USPS driver sees your children more than you do smh. The related issue…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 12:21 PM
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From a Christian perspective submission has nothing to do with who earns more, it has more to do with husband and wife modelling the relationship that God had with Jesus and Jesus with the church. Jesus submitted to God's will to die on the cross, and the church submitted to Christ. Similarly the husband is supposed to submit to Christ and the wife to the husband. When a husband submits to the Lord, leading his wife with a servant’s heart and nurturing her God-given talents, she can confidently …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 07:39 PM
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“used up, damaged, absolutely disgusting, trash” etc. is, by definition,shaming and insulting? Those adjectives can be used to describe men as well and often are but are never called misandrist. Any time a man's preference goes against what women want all of a sudden it's misogynistic
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 05:34 AM
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Most women have responded that there’s 0 consequences for having high-n Source? And even if true, of course women will report that. because you like punishing women, but there isn’t. Women are punishing themselves. Like I said in my comment women can run up their body counts if they want. Just don't foist your high N on men and know that most men are disgusted by it. High-n are still marrying good men and they’re weeding out the “I want to keep my virgin wife’s hymen skin as a trophy,” men And h…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 05:31 AM
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Shaming/insults is a common tactic with some women. Women empowerment told them it's fine to have lots of sex with many partners which is fine, do what you want. But they should also understand that most men are repulsed by high N.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 08:27 AM
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I don’t know why it angers people women. ftfy
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 06:19 AM
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just press x and move on. People here act like I did something to the obese women. I haven’t. You did absolutely NOTHING wrong. Don't let these haters shame you. Keeping swiping X and keep it moving! Men have standards too.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 06:16 AM
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I think promoting acceptance of different body types (including overweight bodies) is overall positive; Except that overweight people are prone to chronic conditions like diabetes, heart disease, high blood pressure etc. If you're overweight/obese in your 20s what's your health outlook in your 40s, 50s and 60s? I think a lot of the loud shaming has gone too far. Loud shaming? When are women ever loudly shamed for being fat? Society in general pushes this "beautiful at any size" but science/physi…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 06:13 AM
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He said pinged: However, I get pinged by so many overweight women meaning they reach out first. Not all online dating apps are swipe-based. On Hinge for example a woman can like or comment on your photo even if you don't match with them. On Match, you can be messaged without matching as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 06:04 AM
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I dumped a woman who not only was in a rush, but gave me an ultimatum. Not happening!
/r/Divorce_Men04/11/22 12:41 AM
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I never understood People who could spend 2 weeks writing on dating apps back and forth waiting for a date. It's truly mind boggling
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 07:17 PM
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Solid game plan. Ignore the haters and shamers in this thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 07:09 PM
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Fucking facts!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 01:12 AM
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Love how you missed the "I" = Insults. SIGN language does not mean all, it means any of the S.I.G.N. You defaulted to the insults when you lacked an argument which is typical of females as is S. G or N.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 05:53 AM
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Read my comment again, genius
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 05:46 AM
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Just like clockwork. I was waiting for the SIGN language. Shame Insults - (neckbeard/mother's basement) Guilt Need to be right I'm surprised you didn't call me an incel or misogynist so I'll give you credit for that. No argument just insults. My girl says hi :)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 05:34 AM
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Yes, very comfortable here. Everyone who is successful and on this sub lives under this bridge. I'm in good company
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 05:27 AM
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Ok you don't have to believe me. I'm broke and live under a bridge. Surprisingly, the WIFI here is excellent.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 05:24 AM
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Haha, sorry if it doesn't fit your narrative of "high n count women are what are in style now and men should accept it".
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 05:20 AM
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I told her from the beginning if we get married there will absolutely be a prenup. We've discussed what the prenup will entail and she's ok with this. All that's left (if we decide to get married) is my lawyer drafting the prenup and her lawyer going over it with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 05:17 AM
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I'm just glad my girlfriend was a virgin when we met. Amazing woman and will likely get the ring soon and a lavish lifestyle from me since I'm a high earner. The fact that she saved her self( I had a low n count a well) is incredible to me and I will give her anything she wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 04:08 AM
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I saw your comment first, replied then saw the rest lol
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 01:54 AM
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He is father was African American, his mother British
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 01:19 AM
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Of course it gets downvoted lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 12:19 AM
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There is NO benefit to a HVM to get married officially via the government. You should be making enough where even the tax benefits aren’t worth losing 50% of your shit. This is where Christiano Ronaldo got it right. Never marry just keep her as a girlfirend. Don't like it? Leave, there are unlimited women lining up for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 09:10 PM
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she belongs to the skreets my friend
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 07:35 AM
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I'm 6'3 200lbs, in shape, with a big ass income. I have no problem landing women. I love it
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/22 05:19 AM
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Haha love it! ​ cooking is my favorite way to show love. This is what my girlfriend says as well!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/22 04:14 AM
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As a HVM, nothing pleases me more than woman who loves to cook 👩‍🍳. I'd do anything for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/22 03:18 AM
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👏👏👏
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/22 02:59 AM
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👏👏👏
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/22 02:58 AM
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agreed
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 07:03 AM
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He built a whole platform on reality. All he did was cast a spotlight on some delusional women and since it shattered the "women are wonderful" effect, he was vilified. The women calling in were so used to society coddling them that when KS told them the harsh truth i.e that's not what men want, it was considered rage/misogyny/sexist. How are you going to be an obese mid 30s single mother with 2 kids entitled to a man making 200K+?! Majority of other childless fit women want him!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 07:00 AM
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But what's the actual scientific(not opinion/anecdote) correlation of mental issues to staying with an abusive partner/getting pregnant by them. What mental issues are they? If both partners are abusive, do they affect both of them? And how do these make them stay together and even have kids? Please link a source to your claims.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 06:55 AM
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Not really. There are multiple studies about abuse victims and no studies about KS show
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 06:49 AM
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Some might say no sane woman would be on PPD. And also like I said before \<sup>\</sup><sup>\</sup><sup>.</sup> Which is entirely subjective
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 06:39 AM
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What's the link between those "mental issues" and staying with a partner/getting pregnant by them? Any sources or just subjective opinions?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 06:36 AM
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I have met women like that in real life, so no
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 06:13 AM
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Again, subjective.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 06:05 AM
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Exactly. Many women stay with and have babies with guys who physically/emotionally assault them. That could qualify as not sane. No one with a healthy mind would oblige. From a subjective view at least...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 05:50 AM
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Tate, Fresh n Fit, etc. The list is endless. Definition of sane is very subjective. Some might say no sane woman would be on PPD. Or no sane woman would have kids with an abuser or stay in a relationship with an abuser
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 05:39 AM
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*Image consultant But many delusional women called his show seeking HVM. Woman: "Height: 5'2, Weight: 190LBS, Dress size: 18. I have two kids and I want a man that makes $250K+" ​ This was an extremely common theme on his show.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 05:29 AM
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Take this upvote. 👏👏👏 KS = Kevin Samuels. He'd ask this whenever women called his show asking for high value men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 05:21 AM
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How tall are you? Dress size? How much did you weigh the last time you weighed yourself? 🤔 RIP KS Edit: Imperial measurements not metric 😬
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 03:46 AM
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She belongs to the streets
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 03:32 AM
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Men say that they a woman’s status is a non factor in deciding if they should date or sleep with her Not true. Guys will sleep with any type of woman, but for LTR/marriage the standards are different. but since men are primarily concerned with looks, how did these women score LTR? The men who end up with said women will likely not be at their economic level, so it's a win for the men in question. Mackenzie scored a teacher, not a Bezos equivalent.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 03:23 AM
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Key word: felt
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 12:08 PM
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It was just your turn big dawg, and the time has come to for you release her back to the streets.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 03:39 AM
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You're down bad my guy. Regular LinkedIn still sends the message to the recipient's email so she would receive the email even though you deleted the message. Not sure about Premium though
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 03:30 AM
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If its a good question, you can answer it, no? Why are you sending me this headline? The women in the headline care about random men not being "economically attractive". They care enough to lament about it. Why do they care about random men not meeting their standards? It's not up to me to answer that question, it's up to those women to answer it. I can't read their minds. If I send you a dozen headlines about men offing themselves because they can't get a girl, would you answer my question then…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 04:13 AM
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Yeah, but the outrage came from a bunch of people that, really, don’t matter. He ignored it and suffered no real consequences. He didn't ignore it. It mattered enough that he made a follow-up video apologizing. And he only got the shit he did because he’s famous. And why should it matter that he's famous? He's just a guy with preferences and that is exactly my point. If he said he loves single moms, doesn't care about body count and loves fat women that video wouldn't be an issue. If I told my f…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 07:24 PM
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Great comment!
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 02:29 PM
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"Bitches"? No need for insults.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 01:16 PM
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You personally don’t care about successful women. Don’t put your words into all men. Where in my comment did I say all men? Also, I linked a study higher up in the thread. I'm not just spouting what "I feel". You care about all these traits, but not intelligence. But you assume all men want what you want. Again where did I say all men? I've been in LTRs with lawyers, doctors, women who work in retail etc. The whole spectrum. No man wants a dumb woman. But most men don't place career high on the …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 01:13 PM
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Sure, if that makes you sleep better at night.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 12:49 AM
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What men say they want is not always the same as what happens in real life. Ok so let's ignore studies and go with anecdotes. Do you have any studies that state the contrary? A woman's career is low on the list of things that are attractive to men. You won't find men in general longing to be with a woman because of her career. Not saying that men do not want women with something going for them, but they don't place the same importance on it as women think they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 12:11 AM
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Agreed
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 05:52 PM
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The fit thing was just an example. Remember when Cam Newton said in an interview that he wanted a women who can cater to his needs, can cook etc there was so much outrage. He was called sexist, misogynist and every other name in the book, just because his dating preferences are not the politically correct things to say. I'm sure if he said he loves plus size women, doesn't care about a woman's body count etc, he'd be heralded as a hero.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 05:37 PM
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Most guys are broke and get mad as fuck when they are told to spend on women In hetero relationships 70% of the breadwinners are men. Or did you mean most guys you deal with? All that matters is he isnt financing her so his opinions are nothingness. is in stark contradiction with when they are told to spend on women
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 04:50 PM
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And why should women care about what men who do nothing for them Good question. But they care enough to complain about it
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 04:40 PM
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Studies show that when women are the breadwinner there's a higher chance of infidelity and divorce. Another recent study published in the Harvard Business Review showed that women who earn more than their husbands commonly suffer from “status leakage,” a term for people believing their own status is elevated if they affiliate with others of high status or that their status is lowered if they affiliate with others of lower status. As a result, they can feel embarrassed by or resentful of their sp…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 02:29 PM
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I don’t understand why some people think that a women who is proud of her accomplishments is trying to appeal to men Nothin wrong with being proud. But when you expect those achievements to land you(not, you but general you) a man and are not getting what you want, no need to blame men "Many young men today have little to bring to the marriage bargain, especially as young women's education levels on average now exceed their male suitors."
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 02:23 PM
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Many studies have debunked this Women have some, too. For one, they prefer men raised in more affluent Zip codes, while men show no such preference for a moneyed upbringing. In addition, women are dramatically more interested in partners of their own race, while men show no such in-group preference. What Men Want in a Woman: Personality Is More Important than Academic Record or Athleticism
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 02:18 PM
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Marriages where the woman is the breadwinner haver higher chances of infidelity and divorce. Another recent study published in the Harvard Business Review showed that women who earn more than their husbands commonly suffer from “status leakage,” a term for people believing their own status is elevated if they affiliate with others of high status or that their status is lowered if they affiliate with others of lower status. As a result, they can feel embarrassed by or resentful of their spouses’ …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 02:14 PM
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False. Women have some, too. For one, they prefer men raised in more affluent Zip codes, while men show no such preference for a moneyed upbringing. In addition, women are dramatically more interested in partners of their own race, while men show no such in-group preference. ​ What Men Want in a Woman: Personality Is More Important than Academic Record or Athleticism
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 02:10 PM
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Many studies have debunked this Women have some, too. For one, they prefer men raised in more affluent Zip codes, while men show no such preference for a moneyed upbringing. In addition, women are dramatically more interested in partners of their own race, while men show no such in-group preference. ​ What Men Want in a Woman: Personality Is More Important than Academic Record or Athleticism
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 02:09 PM
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Attractiveness is more than a giant pair of tits or ass and if a girl can’t hold an intelligent conversation, I’m turned off no matter how she is in the looks department. Nowhere in my comment did I claim that physical attraction is the only thing men care about especially for an LTR or marriage. Sure, no guy wants a dumb woman but most guys don't place the same importance on a woman's money or career as women do. Especially HVM
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 02:00 PM
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Thank you. I think society has stifled men's needs and imposed politically correct requirements on them. For instance, a guy saying he wants a fit woman will be crucified for not wanting a body positive woman
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 06:55 AM
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Not all empowered women are insufferable. “Have you ever heard dudes say: “I just met an awesome phD” -- yes this is true. In men circles these are not words that are commonly uttered. How is this blasting women?! Merely a preference. I know many women like to believe that what they think is important to them(I have a phd, weight positivity!) is what is important to men. Newsflash: it is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 06:51 AM
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Nowhere in my post did I blast "girlboss" women. There are 6 phD women in my family including my my mom and sister. I simply offered an opinion(anecdate) followed by an article by women lamenting the lack of "economically attractive" men
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 06:40 AM
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You must be a woman.Most guys do not care about a woman's achievements. A male surgeon will easily date a female elementary school teacher. Women still complain about the lack of economically attractive guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 06:35 AM
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Most men do not care about a woman's professional achievements. Have you ever heard dudes say: "I just met an awesome phD!" I am all for women advancements especially in the workforce. But most men do not care about that. Femininity, loyalty, inspiration and co-operation are the vital qualities most guys look for. Nothing worse than an insufferable "empowered" woman no matter how attractive she is.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 04:55 AM
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Facts machine
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 04:44 AM
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This explains why my Bumble used to be lit. I'm 6'3"
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 04:40 AM
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Your statistics still support the idea that mothers are the primary caretakers Nope, that's what the mother's said in the survey. That they felt like they did. But the results were different. ​ also your link doesnt work but Ill just trust your quote. https://www.prb.org/resources/how-involved-are-fathers-in-raising-children/ I had an extra colon in the link. ​ Please show me proof that the only thing holding men back from getting full custody is fear of cost. Men have more money then women in g…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 02:46 AM
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Men have always been the less involved parents Im not sure why you can accept this? Right https://www.prb.org/resources/how-involved-are-fathers-in-raising-children/ : "Parents’ reports of actual involvement, however, do not agree. Mothers are far more likely than fathers to report that the mother is the main disciplinarian of children (47 percent, compared with 17 percent), and that it is mainly the mother who plays with children (37 percent, compared with 14 percent). Similarly, mothers are fa…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 11:21 PM
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Most of my friends are estranged from their fathers in some fashion of the fathers choosing, Oh anecdotes, cool. I know many people who were estranged from their fathers because the mothers poisoned them with lies and once they became adults they realized all that they had been told was false, and now they hate their moms. Its illegal to base custody on gender. There is no legal assumption this is a myth, I literally posted a link where a bill was proposed to make the legal presumption 50/50 tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 03:18 PM
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How many of those 90% are 50/50? Many states like mine you're a damn fool(or super rich) to fight for 50/50 because the legal presumption is mother gets custody and dad gets every other weekend and a weeknight dinner or some BS visitation like that. Only way you get custody is if the mother 1)is a dope fiend 2) in and out of jail 3)abandons the kids 4) agrees to 50/50. None of these are in the father's control. ​ I think men just don’t want full custody as much. Women are invested in their child…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 05:56 AM
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Who said 70%? Statistics? Men just stay for the free housekeeping and better likelihood of sex/fear of loneliness If the marriage is on the downward spiral I highly doubt things like sex are still on the table. If men were guaranteed 50/50 custody of kids and a fair shake in family court they'd be leaving in droves. However, this is not the case as 84% of mothers have custody. Men are staying for the kids rather than staying for sex/spousal companionship.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 12:44 AM
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Support system AKA friends and family men don’t have that many close friends in comparison so they are more afraid of being lonely Source? ​ And divorce is not a problem. Women should not have to stay with crappy husbands nor men with crappy wives. Sure. I just find it interesting that 70% of women are somehow in crappy hetero relationships and also double the lesbians compared to male gays. Either these women are crappy choosers or just hard to please
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 11:12 PM
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Damn right they do. Family court system lol. Also, at least we are clear that it's not a man problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 10:19 PM
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Whatever the case, it's women leaving marriages in disproportionate numbers. This is despite them being the ones who push for marriage the most. "I wanna get married because lifetime commitment". Ha!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 10:18 PM
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Who’s making women unhappy Hmm, certainly not men. The divorce rate in lesbian relationships is twice that of gay male marriages. Sounds like women are more fickle...willing to easily bail.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 06:35 PM
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but the women the one in charge of getting the paper work fill out. Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 07:04 PM
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Also child support only makes the state money if the parent getting it is using public benefits like welfare Nope. ​ Oh no, you gotta lawyer up. But I feel like fathers should want to if they want to make sure their child is getting the best care If only lawyering up was free. If only 50/50 custody was the legal default. If only there was more accountability for CS.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 10:02 PM
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Also getting 50/50 does not mean no child support
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 07:15 PM
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" You can ask her to prove it in court also. If she misusing her funds," Haha thanks for the laugh. That's not how it works. It's in the best interests of the court to keep child support flowing through the court so that they get matching federal dollars. Until that changes, guys will just keep getting milked. You seem to think that court appearances are free and getting 50/50 is easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 07:14 PM
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and perhaps then they’d see how little the child support can cover sometimes. I guess we'll never know how much it covers because there's no accountability. No way to know if the parent spent it at the liqour store or buying groceries.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 04:52 PM
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I wonder why the men in charge haven’t changed the rules surrounding family law? I think because it doesn’t really affect them: Because when any type of equality is proposed in family court women groups fight against it ​ Perhaps ask why powerful men would want mostly poor/ lower middle class men to be made to be even poorer? States get matching federal dollar for every child support dollar they earn. So there is no incentive to stop the gravy train. The only time I see this changing is once wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 04:34 PM
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Less than 4% of custody cases are even decided in court. https://www.huffpost.com/entry/dispelling-the-myth-of-ge\_b\_1617115 Cool but how many of the ones settled outside of court are favorable? In my state the mom has to either allow 50/50 or she has to be super fucked up(abuse, drugs) etc for the father to have a shot. Otherwise the default most of the time is bullshit visitation. ​ And when fathers do try for custody, they usually get it. But why do they have to try for custody? Why not have…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 04:28 PM
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A woman can’t refuse child support/give up her right to it because it’s not hers:it’s belongs to the child. But for the child existing, you wouldn’t have to pay it. Herein lies the problem. Sure, on paper it "belongs to the child" but there's no way of knowing how that money is spent. That's the main gripe people have with child support. If there was a way of showing how the money was spent, I don't think people would have a problem with it. ​ And that’s because Americas legal system is based on…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 04:09 PM
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Facts machine!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 05:52 AM
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I can't think of an equivalent solution for shorter guys. You're shit out of luck. Money is the only equalizer if this is the card you were dealt. But according to the ladies of PPD, you just need to be kind, emotionally intelligent, thoughtful and love to take long walks on the beach. Then you can get any woman you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 04:15 AM
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Doesn’t always even have to be a fight, but you do have to show up to court. Many fathers don’t even do that. Source? And show up to court to do what? You think if it's an amicable 50/50 they would be in court? That would have been settled outside of court. There are a lot of myths surrounding custody that courts favor women, but in reality, dads tend to drop the ball False. Many states(e.g GA and PA) still believe in the Tender Years doctrine which means mom gets custody by default while dad ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 03:48 AM
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It's always women pushing marriage. But the same women will complain about how marriage is a raw deal for them because patriarchy and emooootinal LaboR!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 03:41 AM
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Nop, there's a big difference between things you can easily know beforehand and things you can't What, pray tell, is the difference?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 03:33 AM
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Or take on an equal parenting role and actually fight for custody of your children? Fighting for custody is not free. Also, why should the fathers be the ones fighting for custody? The legal default should be 50/50 custody. FYI 50/50 custody does not negate the need for child support. You are still on the hook
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 03:14 AM
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as I said with the right prenups nothing is split 50/50 after divorce and most fathers get joint custody if they apply for it. Not everyone can afford legit prenups(I'm not talking about some BS prenup from LegalZoom), and why should fathers have to apply for 50/50? Why shouldn't the default just be 50/50? That's the problem with this system that apparently does things "in the best interest of the children". ​ she finally decided not to divorce because she made much more than her husband and she…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 03:07 AM
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This is what these "why are men wary about marriage?" types don't get. In family court men are easily disposable. I also find it interesting that most of those parroting this "why are men afraid of marriage" nonsense are usually females.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 03:02 AM
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My best friend has slept with 50-100 guys a year since she turned 15, had 3 kids (all being raised by her mom), 10 abortions that we know of before she was sterilized, and if anything has picked up the pace in the past few years. Goddamn!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 10:00 PM
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Why are men so adverse to paying for their children? I wouldn't know. I don't have kids and I don't know any deadbeats. Do you think you can just “spread your seed” then dip out of any childcare and financial responsibility? Actually one can't just "dip". There are child support enforcement departments and a warrant can be issued for your arrest once the child's mother reports you. Not only that, your driver's license gets suspended and you can end up in jail. Only 44% of custodial (read: mostly…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 05:14 AM
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hahaha 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 12:46 AM
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👍🏿
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 12:38 AM
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“ Looking bad” isn’t pinning it on men. It’s a comment on perception, not reality you nitwit! Insults will get you nowhere and certainly don't help your argument. ​ It could demonstrates that woman were more sad, and that sadness has a cause (the husband) Could/should/would. That's cute but not based on actual stats. The high lesbian divorce rate debunks this argument that the husband(man) is the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 12:28 AM
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We are going to go down a deep well. Do you truly believe that 100% of child support payments only go the needs of the child? Not only that. In my state you can even pay child support if the custodial parent (majority of the time, mother) makes more than you
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 12:15 AM
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*household admin tasks not housework
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 12:07 AM
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Also, bringing in an unrelated stat about gay couples is a dumb counter argument. No. It's highly relevant because it shows that even in the absence of men(man bad, must leave marriage) women still divorce at higher rates. Saying that women file because they do most of the housework is a dumb argument
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 12:07 AM
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No I didn’t. I said it makes us look bad. That’s not pinning it on men . Ffs Huh? Go re-read your comment. You said it makes men look bad. Why doesn't it make the women look bad for bailing on the marriage 70% of the time? and 90% if they are college-educated.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 12:04 AM
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Why are you bringing a completely different statistic in? Because you tried to pin it on men. ​ Women initiating 70% divorce makes men look bad imo. So what's the explanation for lesbian relationships? Does that make women look bad? ​ Also can you share the source? https://www.aecainlaw.com/blog/why-do-lesbian-couples-divorce-more-frequently/
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 11:50 PM
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Economically unattractive does not mean no career/prospects. It's a euphemism used by some women to mean anyone who earns less than them. Could be a teacher, social worker, govt employee etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 11:39 PM
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Lesbian couples divorce at twice the rate of man-man couples Except ^^^
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 11:35 PM
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I've noticed that whenever there's something that makes women look bad, women will always come up with weird ass excuses to justify them instead of just claiming responsibility. Lol @ "because women do most of the households admin tasks". Perhaps it's because women get an upper hand especially if there are kids involved? 50/50 custody is not the legal presumption in majority of states. Custody comes with child support. Women typically marry up, herein lies another incentive to jettison the marri…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 11:29 PM
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Also "whining and crying" is a typical response to what is deemed an injustice e.g women and Roe v Wade
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 10:58 PM
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You can still end up on the alimony and child support chopping block even if you marry someone who is financially capable.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 10:53 PM
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I make a mean chicken coconut curry, or so I've been told
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 09:23 PM
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College educated guys will still marry below their income. Sure maybe not be a walmart greeter but guys usually have no qualms "dating down". If guy is not getting any success with ladies, the reason is not because he can't find a woman who makes the same or more than him. That's typically not criteria for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 09:20 PM
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This seems like an edge case. I dont know how many men would really want to say that they want to marry a woman with a high body count. Unless it's some type of fetish. The only time we see people bite their tongues about issues like these when there is a risk of getting cancelled. There's a reason why a people like Kevin Samuels and other "manosphere" content creators are famous. They are saying things that guys could only say behind closed doors.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 06:58 PM
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I said men circles, not simp circles
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 06:52 PM
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Do you have any source for your shortage claim? Perhaps something like this? Also guys don't typically look for someone who makes the same or more than them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 06:46 PM
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Things you'll never hear in men's circles: I want to be a step dad. She has a high n - count, I want to marry her Did you see her eyelashes those are fire! She can't cook and that turns me on I'm having trouble finding a wife because there's a lack of economically attractive women I love how masculine she is.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 05:14 PM
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This is the correct answer!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 03:48 PM
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Haha I don't know what smarmy means but thanks for the apology. I appreciate it. I guess what I was trying to determine was why, even in women-to-women relationships, the divorce rates were higher than men-to-men relationships. Given that women file 70% of divorces in man-women relationships seems like there's a common denominator.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 03:33 AM
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How does this Husband may have moved in with girlfriend 2 years ago, or become a meth addict or has a second family and I'm not convinced that they were the one that wanted the divorce more explain the high AF lesbian divorce rate compared to their male counterparts?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 02:48 AM
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Statistics show that husbands of breadwinner wives have a higher likelihood of cheating ​ In divorce court, I made out worse. This is the fate of most men but no one cares to listen.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 04:18 AM
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wanting prenups or to not get married for example. I'm guilty of both the above. Wanting a prenup is financially prudent. Otherwise you are stuck with the one-size-fits-all prenup that your jurisdiction has in place.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 04:12 AM
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If you married a 50k guy and decided to remain a stay at home mom after your kids were of school age, instead of improving your skills and creating your own income, you deserve everything you get (or not get). Sure not living off alimony, but in my state the alimony calc even for a $100K per year is > 0 which is better than nothing. Might not live off it but it's decent supplemental income. $0 is worse than anything greater than $0. FOR LIFE.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 03:32 AM
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You don't have to be a millionaire to feel the wrath of alimony and child support for having a SAHM. The fact that one can afford a SAHM means the man is making a significant amount of money(could be 80K, 100K, 120K). Also the fact that lifetime alimony is still a thing should send chills down any high earner's spine.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 02:47 AM
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I do believe I did much better with my current position and did all the things you listed and that is why my pay is so much higher, and believe currently I am paid fairly as it’s above the typical pay for my company in my level according to levels.fyi. Awesome!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 02:36 AM
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Ok one, I got the promotion, it just didn’t really come with a raise. How do you know the 2% was because you're a woman and not because of company policy? Two, I was being paid less than men of my level right from the beginning Again, is this because you didn't negotiate? I worked at a company where I negotiated for 4 weeks vacation instead of 2 and got it. Everyone else(men, women) on my level and even managers had 2. ​ Four, it wasn’t just me being paid less than men - it was actually a woman …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 02:11 AM
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Leadership also told me this directly, and gave me a promotion, at a time they were laying off the bottom performers - but the promotion came with just a 2% raise. Did you negotiate for more? And did you ask why the men were being paid more? I'm a (male) dev myself and I've been in a similar situation where I asked for a promotion and, despite my stellar quarterly reviews, didn't receive it because reasons. Not sure I can chalk yours up to the wage gap. Just think my manager was being frugal wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 01:29 AM
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Arnold Schwarzenegger too.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 01:47 AM
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With 70% being filed by (opinionated and non-opinionated) women. Yay!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 02:26 AM
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Yes I do travel both locally(in the US) and internationally(at least twice a year). I work remotely so that makes it easy to travel since I can work from anywhere
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 01:59 AM
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Ok I don't know then. I'm also 6ft+ and speak multiple languages, maybe that's why our results vary
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 01:55 AM
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Such as...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 01:52 AM
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PurplePillEric offered some great advice. My advice to you would be to not do things so that you "get better with women" because if that fails you'll just get frustrated. Focus on you. Do things that improve who you are. That way at least if all else fails, you have at least improved yourself. When I was working out to lose weight, I was doing it to improve my health since I was overweight and my doctor advised me to do so. When I was working on my Masters degree I was doing it because I love le…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 01:47 AM
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Maybe. Or maybe... Improving your health and looks at the gym will make you feel better about yourself when you take off your shirt and look into the mirror. You're gonna be the first person to notice the results so watch how it makes you feel before other people notice. You'd be surprised. Maybe the testosterone released into your body when you work out will give you more confidence from the inside, rather than reading a bunch of people bullshitting about what to say to a girl. Maybe the idea b…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 01:37 AM
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90% of custody cases are agreed upon by both mom and dad. Within that, only 11% use a mediator. Only 4% go to court. So let’s start there before we start going with the whole “courts default to women”. How many of those 90% are 50/50? How many of those are as a result of lawyers who are familiar with how a court would rule advising their clients to just accept the deal? In jurisdictions like GA, PA good luck trying to get 50/50 without a fight. Most folks can't afford the fees and choose to sett…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 01:20 AM
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You initially said Men who see their children equally to the women don’t pay child support. "..don't pay child support". That made it seem as if that is always the case. Clearly it's a case by case base and besides, 50/50 custody is a legal presumption in very few states. Most states, mine included, default to the mother getting custody and the father having to "fight for his kids" which as we all know is not free. I'm aware of how CS is calculated and how income disparities affect it through my…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 08:53 PM
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Men who see their children equally to the women don’t pay child support. Source? This is certainly not the law. In my state, I can still pay even if it's 50/50 custody.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 05:27 PM
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Drake is a master at riding the current popular wave that's how he's stayed relevant so many years. Had he stuck to the RnB lane he'd be gone and forgotten. But yes the album sucked.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 01:07 AM
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Too many simps nowadays. "He's better at literally everything else, I love him so much, but he's just okay in the bedroom." A simp would justify this as "well, at least I'm getting some, it's better than nothing 🤘"
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 01:02 AM
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Hoping this wasn't meant to be some type of insult...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 07:00 AM
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https://www.google.com/search?q=ally+meaning&ei=QGyxYoDVD5yYptQP6oqKoAM&ved=0ahUKEwiA9Z2Q\_L34AhUcjIkEHWqFAjQQ4dUDCA8&uact=5&oq=ally+meaning&gs\_lcp=Cgdnd3Mtd2l6EAMyDAgAELEDEEMQRhD5ATIFCAAQgAQyBQgAEIAEMgUIABCABDIFCAAQgAQyBQgAEIAEMgUIABCABDIFCAAQgAQyBQgAEIAEMgUIABCABDoHCAAQRxCwAzoKCAAQRxCwAxDJAzoHCAAQsAMQQzoKCAAQ5AIQsAMYAToSCC4QxwEQowIQyAMQsAMQQxgCOhIILhDHARDRAxDIAxCwAxBDGAI6EAguELEDEIMBEMcBENEDEEM6CggAELEDEIMBEEM6BAgAEEM6DQguELEDEMcBENEDEEM6BQgAEJECOg0ILhCABBDHARDRAxAKOgUILhCABDoICC4QgAQQ1AI6Bgg…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 06:59 AM
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Man, I'd never do that shit. But props to you1
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 06:58 AM
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Damn decoy I thought you were an ally lol....
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 06:53 AM
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Haha I bet. But I'm an old fart (35 y/o) and out of touch with the youngin's
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 05:32 AM
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Also, my "hip" teenager nephew and niece told me it's cringe to say cringe -_-
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 05:17 AM
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Chill bruh...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 05:14 AM
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Love being a single HVM in my mid 30s. Life is good with regard to dating. Now I know how women feel, getting inundated with male attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 05:10 AM
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If your thinking as a guy that once you turn 30, dating will suddenly get easier for you without self improvement your in for a major wake up call. Yep! It's not automatic, self-improvement plays a huge role. If you're a slacker in your 20s and still a slacker in your 30s, you can't expect things to change. Are you saying that you did all things right(got fit, career advancement etc) but for some reason you're not seeing any results?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 01:14 AM
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Facts.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 05:42 AM
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I'm ABSOLUTELY getting a prenup. No prenup no marriage. Funny thing is I've driven off many women with my reasonable prenup request. I love it, such an effective filter
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 04:45 AM
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I came from poverty. I didn't have shit growing up but I've made something out of myself. If shit goes south for me I don't have a backup (I don't have rich parents or family to bail me out). Also to the "3 attorneys" point, one was a casual lunch with a friend and she didn't get into details, second one was an associate who seemed pretty green and unsure of her answers and the 3rd on was essentially a second opinion on the associate. I'm equipped with all the knowledge I need to select a mate r…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 04:11 AM
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Yep, and this is one of the suggestions the divorce attorneys gave me. Marry on your level or above. Or stay single lol. I'm not rich but I have a bunch of assets that i could get screwed over on if I went in blind and "in love".
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 03:45 AM
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It is well known but most think that "I'm special, I got a unicorn". Not only that, the problem is that the legal ramifications of a failed marriage are not publicized. Marriages are mostly highlighted by the positives (get married, have kids buy a house etc) and for most men the are fine with marrying lower economically and even coalescing to a stay-at-home-mom. I'm sure if the message "stay at home mom = higher alimony and child support payments" was emphasized in all spheres of life, men woul…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 03:42 AM
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This was a range. I got a free lunch consult from my friend's wife, a free 1 hr consult with an associate at a big law firm and a $250 consult from a 25-year family law attorney who owned his own firm. I had a list of questions and specific scenarios. You can google it but it is not state specific. Also, I have enough assets that I stand to lose that $250 meant nothing to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 03:35 AM
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And yes I live in a no fault state, so cheating has ZERO impact on the divorce outcome
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 03:31 AM
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No, I live in an equitable state. Equitable does not mean equal i.e 50/50. However it does mean that the judge would divide things according to "what's fair". So what's fair is left to the judge's discretion, regardless of who was at fault. So if I made majority of the income and the judge decided that things be split 70% to my wife, and 30% to me because I make 3x my wife then that's how it would go down
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 03:31 AM
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Majority don't. They are fed this disney-esque marriage narrative of happily forever after. Then when the wife files for divorce(women file 70% of the time) they are in shock and wonder how the "family" courts can do so much to tear up a family.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 03:15 AM
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I definitely will do, and I've had a bunch of women flee once I declared this. Good riddance!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 03:12 AM
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Herein lies the problem. Custody should be 50/50 by default by law except for extenuating circumstances. A man should not have to "fight for his kids". In my state even if both the mother and father earn the same, the non-custodial parent (usually overwhelmingly the father) would still pay child support.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 03:12 AM
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Smart. Kudos to you both!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 03:09 AM
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Because while women are increasingly becoming the breadwinners, women marry equal or above their status. Also, women still overwhelmingly get child custody. My state has a child support calculator. I put in my numbers and I earn a lot. Even if my ex earned more than me and we had 50/50 custody but she had primary custody, I'd still owe her child support just because she was the primary custodian. ​ Edit: child support calculator not child custody calculator
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 03:08 AM
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True, but most women marry equal and above their status. Many men however are oblivious to what marriage and the dissolution thereof really means. A man will say he wants a stay at home mom but not know the legal implications of this upon the marriage dissolution (where 70% of divorces are filed by women). All I'm saying is consult with a divorce attorney to get feedback. If he tells you "hey, you want a stay at home mom but if the marriage ends you will have to pay her astronomical amounts of a…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 03:03 AM
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House Buyer: I want to review the purchase contract with an attorney. House Seller: Sorry I can't sell you the house. Thanks goatismypilot for the valuable feedback. I'm not married. I'm undecided and comfortable with it. But if I do best believe I'll have my I's dotted and T's crossed. I will be making an informed decision if I'm entering a legal contract.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 02:55 AM
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True. I was just speaking from a male perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 02:49 AM
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Unfortunate, sorry to hear. But yes, this is one of the things I was unaware of until my legal consult. Retirement accounts!!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 02:44 AM
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Thank you, that's all I'm saying. I learned so much from my consult. The problem is that marriage is so romanticized that the legal aspect gets ignored. But at the crux of it, marriage is a legal contract and the divorce rates are staggering. Nothing wrong with knowing what you are getting into.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 02:41 AM
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Same. My friend was a criminal attorney but married to a family law attorney, that's how I got put on to game...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 02:37 AM
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It happens but my point here is that consulting with an attorney will let you know what you are getting into. I'm curious as to whether the alimony payer would have done things differently f he consulted with an attorney prior.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 02:35 AM
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Hmm I don't live in one of those. But let me give you a snippet of my consult: my wife can cheat on me, divorce me and have me pay for her legal bills. In my state there is a way around this. Of course this is gender neutral but speaking for myself as a man who has a lot to lose if things go south.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 02:27 AM
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Typical response. I'm not against marriage. I'm against getting into any legal contract uninformed.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 02:24 AM
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If you're a man and you are single or in a relationship I beseech you to seek a 1hr consult with a divorce attorney to get an inside look at how "family" law would treat your future marriage were it to break down. You'll thank me later. ​ Consults range from free - $300 in my city. Best money/time I ever spent.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 02:02 AM
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Single moms (especially divorced moms) are heralded as strong women who are sticking it to the patriarchy. Shit's crazy
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 01:58 AM
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Because you literally played the childish game of "I know what you are but what am I?" You claimed I'm terminally online yet you respond to my replies within minutes. Hello kettle, meet pot. The point remains, you seem isolated and unaware of what's going on out there in the real world, Ok what, pray tell, is happening in the real world. Are women wearing skin tight leggings in public? Are women taking endless selfies? Are women constantly thirst-trapping? You're right. Women are doing none of t…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 03:57 AM
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"You seem terminally online" --you seem to be too? Glad you didn't address this. One look in the mirror and voila! lmao What are you even saying. Social media being social doesn't make people automatically more social as in having more meaningful connections, make some actual sense. It doesn't make people more social but it casts a wider net. 1000 guys might like a woman's pic and give her an ego boost but those same 1000 guys would not tell her in public that they liked how her ass looked in ti…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 03:37 AM
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Yeah, let's ignore studies (and use ad hominem attacks) and go with your anecdotes "I've done a ton of dating" lmao People were more socially isolated before social media. Hence the "social" in social media. "Also attention does not equal ego inflation" --haha. You're right. Women absolutely DO NOT get any ego boosts from attention. That's why they wear skin tight leggings in public, that's why they take endless selfies, that's why they constantly thirst-trap. Absolutely no effect on their ego. …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 03:10 AM
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Reddit and LinkedIn are the only social media I have. Common sense, various polls and data studies show that the proliferation of online platforms has resulted in a significant uptick in online interactions which increased the number of human interactions compared to yesteryears. Like I said, in the 60s for grandma to cheat or get flirted with, it'd probably happen in a smaller confines. Nowadays, all one needs to do is to fire up an app and set a radius(and sometimes this isn't even necessary) …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 02:43 AM
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Social media/OLD have opened up the simp flood-gates. Before the prevalence of online platforms the ego inflation might have been limited to a lone co-worker or the occasional mailman. Nowadays there are armies of online simps that inflate egos of even below average women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 01:25 AM
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Can't blame them. Fight for your child and bankrupt yourself for a slim chance of winning or accept the cards you're dealt and make the best of it. Besides once kids are old enough they can choose who to live with. Make the legal presumption 50/50 in ALL states then let's judge. If women were the ones "fighting for their child" this presumption would've been in place a long time ago
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 11:58 PM
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"go for 50/50" isn't that easy. In my city a 1 hour consult with an attorney is $300. A retainer is $5000. By the time the legal fight is over you are 10s of thousands of dollars in the hole and you still have to pay child support. Most guys do the math and say fuck it. If equality was a thing, ALL states would have a legal presumption of 50/50. Not this Tender Doctrine nonsense. I'd like to see the stats on women giving the fathers 50/50 and the fathers declining it. THEN we can draw some concl…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 03:11 AM
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Lol very true
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 06:07 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 06:06 AM
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