Romance is dead

jellybeanzandtings · 2022-11-23T23:55:00+00:00

Do not troll. Post removed due to original poster not debating in good faith.

YuekiXC · 2022-11-23T21:54:17+00:00

Romantic guys are only attractive for women who were already interested in them. This applies to everything else. As long as the women is into you, she'll like it.

Lift_and_Lurk · 2022-11-23T21:51:06+00:00

Romance is a thing you do after you get together. Too many dudes try “romancing” a girl before she even knows who he is. That’s cute in the movies but is cringe AF in real life. A romantic dinner or surprise flowers in a LTR is good. To the girl who just kinda knows you from Literature class?! Red flag.

an_undecided_voter · 2022-11-23T22:29:29+00:00

Just keep saying “m’lady” and you’re golden.

SeveralSadEvenings · 2022-11-23T22:25:04+00:00

What are you defining as romance?

Local_Quality534 · 2022-11-23T22:00:03+00:00

Only on this sub.

NakedStreets · 2022-11-23T22:00:20+00:00

Most women I noticed see guys as a dispensable thing.

If you’re upset because you couldn’t express romantic feelings for someone you’ve never met, and hasn’t even responded to you, you probably don’t see individual women as all that special either.

RocinanteCoffee · 2022-11-23T22:59:32+00:00

Is it just me or is romance pretty much dead these days.

Can you give me examples of what you find romantic? The trends have changed but plenty of people out there still want to be romanced. I am a woman who dates all genders but mostly men, and I am generally not romantic or very sentimental so I had to learn how to be romantic because they were a romantic type. It took a bit of thoughtfulness but is relatively simple. Light a candle when you sit down crosslegged to eat pizza together; wrap their favorite candy bar with a bow and a sexy message; it's not rocket science and every individual has there own idea of it or there are people like me (there have always been people like me) who aren't necessarily looking for any romance.

waffleznstuff30 · 2022-11-23T23:51:48+00:00

Romance isn't transactional. Romance is something you do because you care about the person. Doing things to make your person feel special not if I do this you will have sex with me. If your intent is I will do this now give me sex or whatever like dude that's not romantic.. or using it as a manipulation tactic to be romantic but then don't feel the need once you got your desired result. Its something you should do always.

Romance is something sweet done to just show you think about, or appreciate your partner. Buying flowers because they like flowers. Shit I got mine a little gift at a con I went to just because I thought he would like it. Sure these kinds of things can result in sex but sex shouldn't be the main focus. Basically if it's just for sex and getting off it's prostitution with a few extra steps. But it should be about that person and making them happy.

Kookerpea · 2022-11-23T23:56:34+00:00

Most women I know like romantic men

CimZim · 2022-11-23T22:30:14+00:00

What do you define as romantic?

ChibsFilipTelfordd · 2022-11-23T22:15:50+00:00

Most dating isn't online.

Most romance happens after the dating phase and in the relationship phase.

Dating phase is VETTING. Relationship phase is romance.

unloader72 · 2022-11-23T22:16:55+00:00

People shit on me yesterday for calling out how women get damaged early on and their ability to demonstrate/perceive romance dampens in today's dating conditions.

I don’t know if romance is dead but i know romance is ambigous word for women.

MyLastBestChance · 2022-11-23T23:53:47+00:00

Based on OPs responses to comments in this thread, this isn’t about “romance” being dead. It’s a whining “nice guy” who is upset that the rose emojis and faux “romantic” gesture tokens that he’s putting into strangers aren’t paying out the expected casual sex jackpot the way he thinks they should.

revente · 2022-11-23T21:55:34+00:00

I unironically blame women for killing romance lmao

Imagine putting in the effort for a degrading partner

4_gwai_lo · 2022-11-23T22:19:39+00:00

Just you

Hour-University5631 · 2022-11-23T22:57:08+00:00

Romance never really existed to be honest. Women have always seen men as means to an end (as protectors and providers). Modern dating just enhanced that 1000%.

2022-11-23T22:01:34+00:00

Strong independent women and never do anything for the express purpose of a man is what they where taught

Hysterical__Paroxysm · 2022-11-23T22:52:47+00:00

Romantic is different than creepy. That's why it's a turn off.

Someone I just met being "romantic" is over-the-top, transactional, and creepy to me.

Someone I've known, or have met and been flirting with off and on, dialing up the romance and "shooting his shot" will be accepted if I'm interested in him, or politely rebuffed if I'm not. The romance isn't the issue here--it's my standards/level of attraction to the person/interest in them/interest in a relationship. They could be a great guy, but after getting to know them more, I find we aren't compatible. Many men don't like that explanation, and then double or triple down on the "romance," which of course I only perceive as creepy and possessive. It also ruins ANY chances of ANY type of relationship.

Be yourself. Be romantic, that's great! Just be tactful.

AstronautLoveShack · 2022-11-23T23:16:13+00:00

Nobody says romantic guys are a turn off. Clingy guys are a turn off. But women love romance. Men are the ones who don't want to put in any romantic effort because they compare themselves to Chad who don't need romance to get laid.

ass-thetics · 2022-11-23T22:29:00+00:00

Dating today is primal. It's like the different between a cage fight with rules, and a street fight where someone might have a knife. The guy with the knife isn't complaining, because he will win in the end. And the other guy? Too bad. There are no rules today with regards to dating. Guys can date a girl for years and never commit. A girl can sleep with as many shady men as she wants and still require the "princess treatment" later on.

DokiMin · 2022-11-23T23:17:44+00:00

As a guy my self I don't approach women I've been told women do not want to be bothered so I will leave it as that, women get out their more us out

sharksville · 2022-11-23T23:20:51+00:00

Romance is pretty much dead these days. It’s true. When people think that it’s okay to do only fans, prostitution, pornography, become a stripper etc, then yes romance is dead. Some people think it’s okay and no big deal to have sex on the first date with some stranger you matched with on a dating up or met in some other way. With a lot of casual sex and everything, or before marriage, teen pregnancies, handful of people becoming single parents at an early stage in young years, it basically sums it up quite well that yes romance is dead. It’s no longer seen as a thing of value where two people cherish the romantic moments between them. If someone’s honey than go pay a hooker some money.

Repulsive-Cupcake505 · 2022-11-23T22:11:46+00:00

This is a western/American issue. Romance is very much alive if you date Latinas or Asians.

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Silver_Switch_3109 · 2022-11-23T22:17:08+00:00

Romance was never alive to begin with.

gopher_glitz · 2022-11-23T23:16:46+00:00

Romance is made up by Hollywood and fairytales.

Monkebizniss · 2022-11-23T23:44:27+00:00

It is a shame. Women don’t care about men anymore, and men don’t care about women. Everybody’s coping by climbing into our little echo chambers of fellow men or fellow women who share our resentment. That doesn’t mean you have to change, though. What would the romantic girl you want do? Don’t settle. Keep searching for her.

hostility_kitty · 2022-11-24T00:14:23+00:00

Depends on the girl. I love and appreciate it when my fiancé opens my car door, buys me flowers and sweets, pays for dates, and texts me good morning. But I also like very vanilla sex and none of that BDSM stuff that may or may not be correlated.

viperman1111 · 2022-11-24T00:47:02+00:00

I don’t know much about the original post but I think I disagree with the mod on this one.

Conscious_Ad_6572 · 2022-11-24T01:02:46+00:00

Romantic guys are losers unless the woman is already interested

Title	Romance is dead
Author	Vegetable-Rub3418
Upvotes	23
Comments	109
Date	November 23, 2022 9:48 PM UTC (3 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/PurplePillDebate
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