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Dude seriously just seek out therapy at this point. If you're not neurodivergent, then you're classed as a psychopath. You have zero empathy for others like women but want all your needs and emotions met.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 08:48 PM
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There's no ladder of hierarchy of humans. If you believe this, it shows your indoctrination in full view.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 08:34 PM
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Perfectly put. There's no reason this guy should have a rebuttal or response against any of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 08:32 PM
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I'm on an app so there's no chat feature. Only DMs
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 08:13 PM
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You're absolutely right. I don't. What I do have control over are the things I'll tolerate from people in my life. It's called "men having boundaries" and that's what you really have a problem with. So here's the thing about boundaries. You won't know the other person's quirks until you are in a relationship with them and have spent time with them. Let's say your wife has a habit of accidently putting you down in certain settings unbeknownst to her. Where she thinks she's being playful while you…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 06:44 PM
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Oh but don't you see? They don't want you. They want a door mat.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 06:30 PM
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Not sure where my insult was this time but please let me know as I want to learn. Those things that you think you're providing are standard requirements that are expected of a decent human being in any relationship. Man or woman. Next you'll be saying that because you don't hit your wife or cheat on her, it means you're a good guy compared to the guys that do, so therefore you should be given credit. I sincerely hope you can see what I'm trying to say here. Plus I would still like an answer to m…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 06:22 PM
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Ok I apologise for the final insult as I now realise how it came across and have rightfully removed it. You have to understand how frustrating it gets to read a post like yours where you speak with intellect, and yet it's so ass-backwards in the thought department. So I'm going to ask a very simple question: are you neurodivergent? And I ask because your posts read like one, which would make perfect sense in the grand scheme of it. As for your post: Yes, she's my sworn enemy. That's why I'm putt…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 05:43 PM
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The onlookers have already made their mind up that you're insecure. You don't have control over anyone's autonomy. Here's why I mentioned that this is called insecurity. And furthermore, toxic masculinity - If you had self worth, if you had high value, if you had self esteem and confidence, which attracted the woman to you in the first place, don't you think that's what you should be concentrating on instead of trying to control her feelings and movements? It means you are so deep in your own mi…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 05:25 PM
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Ok sure. i don't do the cooking or cleaning. Outside of my laundry (because I'm very particular about that), those things are her responsibility. Modern advances in household technology have rendered those tasks trivial so any woman who complains about doing them is just lazy. Something you folks don't seem to understand is that you're already going into the relationship with the mentality that the woman is your sworn enemy. You're already trying to leverage her and play a zero sum game on her. …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 05:16 PM
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Lmao are you based in Afghanistan or something? The Taliban are in the house over here! That poor woman. This list reads like an autistic level 'I Owe U' transactional system.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 05:04 PM
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Men are expected to lay their life on the line if someone breaks in to the house. Under what circumstance? Women are just as brave. There's a video on the front page where 3 men break into a house and the woman joins her husband in fighting back. Men are expected to pay the majority of the bills. There's something called equality where men and women work. The post from yesterday about women doctors is a prime example where women pay and earn more than guys. Men are expected to walk on the side o…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 04:54 PM
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Yea he's pulling at straws to give the guy credibility. Meh
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 04:43 PM
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He's been told to be angry and doesn't have the critical thinking behind it to ask himself why. Pretty much the same for most of the other guys here. The rage loop is real.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 03:38 PM
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The way some of you think is beyond me.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 02:24 PM
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Well I hope I never meet those mercenaries.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 02:22 PM
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You'd accept going to jail over a lie?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 06:02 AM
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But you're behind bars by that point for supposedly raping her. Are you that much of a simp for her that you'll rot in jail? Aren't you going to protest your innocence?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 06:01 AM
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It's just a shame that folks who swear by the number system are so stuck in their ways. Imagine how a guy will rate a girl a 5 or whatever daft number, yet she could be his unicorn in that her hobbies and passions and outlook on life matches his to a T. Only, his stupidity in using the number system has blinded him.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 12:53 AM
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Ahahaha that was brilliant.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 12:38 AM
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I'll say what I've always said. The arbitrary number system is dehumanising. (Though at least it's better than other examples I've seen where women have been compared to cars and other objects smh) Plus it's actually problematic for the person who uses the system. Think about it. A guy sees a girl and rates her as a 10. Solely on her looks. She's high value in his eyes. Now for the turn of events - turns out she's a pathological liar and gets him jailed for rape. Congrats! - what is she now? A 9…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 12:22 AM
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Sure, there may be a few and I hope I never meet them lol, though you might find that the kind of people who do it for the money and status will get weeded out pretty early on in the grueling journey as they won't show the type of ethics involved nor have the dexterity. Again, it comes with the territory.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 12:15 AM
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Hope your comment gets far higher in this list. Hits the nail on the head. My wife is a lawyer and her hours are deadly as she works around the clock. Plus she's away from home as a result of whichever cases she's been chosen to be a part of. Kids? Forget about it. We would have the worst neglected kids due to our jobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 11:51 PM
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People (often women) think a high status job and a six figure salary means a lot of fun and less stress. Which women? Young women who haven't gone to university yet? Because that would make sense as they're not in a position to understand what hard graft requires especially that of a doctor. Then again a woman who becomes a doctor has that affirmation early on and is already set on understanding hard work. They have a different mindset very early on. If you're talking about the Instagram airhead…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 11:47 PM
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Indeed the issue is that it's relatable to the person who is vulnerable to manipulation. You could take 2 people with exactly the same looks, height etc, as well as experiences in terms of getting rejected by women, yet one person continues to keep trying until he succeeds, and thinks all the pills and influencers are stupid, while the other one falls head first down the rabbit hole and ends up in a far worse place, and stays there for a long time. The question here is: how did the different out…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 11:35 PM
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And yet Napoleon himself was a legendary leader. Did he care whether people made fun of him? Yes, society looks down on certain traits. Society is fucking brutal, I'll give you that, but let's be honest here. There are a million things worse than short height. We could have been born blind or disabled in many ways, or disfigured etc. Suddenly life seems a lot worse. As for socio-economic issues, we could have been born in a very bad place on earth in terms of lack of amenities and every other sy…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 11:23 PM
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Then that's why it's important to have hope, and to put ourselves out there so that when the opportunity arises, we'd be at the right place at the right time, and with the right mindset.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 11:13 PM
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They're not doing it for the money. They're doing it for the love of the profession and far more importantly; due to their nature, which is that they have an immense desire to save lives. The money comes with the territory. Same for nurses. Nurses get paid utterly shit wages in many countries. They're not in it for the money. They're in it because they have a highly caring nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 11:08 PM
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Logical, no? Not to this lot. Everything is reversed. They talk about status and yet they are chronically online, and stuck like glue to this forum repeating the same posts and talking points over and over. Status: Stuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 11:05 PM
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If I visited a forum daily where I was told that I'm worthless due to my height, before long, my view and beliefs would be settled on that. This is a modern age problem. Getting indoctrinated is not fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 09:31 PM
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It's just that they got lucky. It's not all about height, personality, etc. It's about whether or not you run into someone who you're interested in, that's also interested in you. Ok so let's run with this. If a guy labels themselves as an incel and gives up on caring about himself and doesn't go out, whose fault is it? Women's? Or his? Who should take responsibility? (And I'm not saying you're an incel here, just a general question) And sure, there's an element of luck but that's because the gu…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 09:29 PM
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The banner to PPD should be that meme where the guy is cycling and then proceeds to push a stick through the front wheel causing him to fall off and hurting himself. Edit: This one
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 08:18 PM
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To be honest I stopped reading after you used the word cucked. Mating strategies is part of evolutionary psychology, which in and of itself is a theoretical framework and approach, and not factual. Not yet anyway. Way more studies are needed to call it an official field. As a result nothing within that field should be taken at face value or as fact, yet I see it touted as fact in here often.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 06:21 PM
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Wishing you and your husband the best. Kidney stones are horrific! (Having had them myself. Ugh) Hmm... Where are the guys who shout hypergamy?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 06:09 PM
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I have a friend who has schizoid personality disorder - and I can see just how difficult things can get for him especially when he gets overwhelmed. I'd like to think that as time goes on, just as we've hit the point that we're at now with our understanding of neurodivergence, the wide ranging studies being done, and the level of recognition we're at, hopefully in the future we'll hit dizzying heights of discovery of medication and the likes to not so much cure the condition but rather alleviate…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 05:47 PM
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Hmmm that makes perfect sense why when mental health is brought up in this forum it is dismissed so aggressively and yet it could well be the key to solving many of the issues guys face. Not saying it'll resolve everything but at least it'll get talked about more. Mental health in men generally is not mainstream and it has its repercussions. Way more talk it's needed.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 05:40 PM
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So considering you are fully aware of your lack of social skills as a result of neurodivergence, do you make it known from the very beginning when you talk to people or do you hide it as if it's a disability? Great effort has been made in the West to make neurodivergence mainstream considering we're only just realising the impact it has on people. I'm not well versed in how the dating scene is for individuals like yourself but no doubt it's extremely difficult. It's hard enough being young in to…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 04:50 PM
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Let's try an example. If you saw a guy who had some sort of disfigurement (in other words someone worse off than you in terms of looks and ability) being with a woman, what would the make it think? Would you say to yourself "hmm I consider him below me in the hierarchical sense yet he's with someone while I'm not" - what would you point to as the reason for why he has a woman on his arm and you don't. Genuinely interested in your response.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 04:32 PM
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Yea so that's why neurodivergence is a recognised condition universally. 20 years ago, the word autism was an alien concept and frowned upon as if you could catch it from them. Times have changed for the better. What's your own take on what neurodivergent people can do to find love or get successful in the dating scene? Curious to know.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 04:29 PM
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If I took you out to a bar where you saw a guy that you deemed average looking and average height doing well with women where he was confident in himself and had the women invested, you'd find a way to deny it. That's the kind of mindset that many guys here have. I keep asking people here why they think they don't have a chance, and the answer always comes back as: I tried and I failed and therefore I know there's no use anymore because height, looks, x, y, z. Like seriously, how many times did …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 04:25 PM
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So let's say that height is the greatest barrier along with looks as most folks here say it is. Well what now? Is it women that should lower their standards, or should these men seek their desires elsewhere such as going abroad if they can? What's the solution from your perspective?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 04:19 PM
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Yea I realise that. I meant as in fully understanding the condition but even that is different for each person.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 12:47 PM
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terminology like the wall, normie, NPC, cuck, beta, simp, soyboy Those terms aren't created by RP and have been part of internet slang in a much broader way. If those terms are being used within RP circles, the primary purpose is to be descriptive, not demeaning. Again, it's about comparing notes. The purpose is to be pragmatic. My dude. How is it pragmatic if the term is negative and derogatory to begin with? That's the same as when people say "that's so gay!" to a scenario that they don't like…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 12:19 PM
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Can I use your post in an upcoming post about neurodivergence and the red pill please? It's very poignant. Will give credit where it's due.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 11:46 AM
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Have you managed to get therapy and counseling? If you have, has it helped? Also would you say that the kind of partner that would understand you better is someone in a similar situation to you or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 11:44 AM
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Yea why is this difficult for these guys to understand? If a person is neurodivergent, then life is basically on ultra hard mode due to the inability to be able to read between the lines. And to then be totally unaware of where that person with neurodivergence ends up is even more damaging. Going to the dark corners of the internet to find answers isn't going to fare well. Getting therapy and understanding ourselves works out way better in the long run.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 11:43 AM
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May I ask if you are neurodivergent? There's no other way of asking it other than to be direct. I ask because I have nieces and nephews that are neurodivergent and they are in exactly the same situation as you find yourself. They're only just setting out as they're in their low 20's having most graduated. It's difficult to watch. Society is a fucked up place for many who are on the spectrum but I won't dwell on it as it would be an assumption on my part to label you as neurodivergent.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 11:30 AM
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Only correct to the mind of a person who has a set of beliefs that seeks this data to be correct. You're seeking out whatever you can to confirm the bias you hold. Now what you really want to ask is where did that belief come from...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 11:25 AM
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Out of curiosity, where are you looking for these women? To be honest, from experience, those kind of women are not online. Online is a cesspit of despair. Tiktok, Instagram, they're all goddamn cults and they push shitty agendas that warp the minds of uninitiated and impressionable young men and women. It's whatever sells in this sphere, and far less about the person. Plus as you said yourself, you're confident in all areas of your life while not in the dating scene. That should tell you to loo…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 11:17 AM
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I feel like it's necessary to say this: unless you are neurodivergent and therefore cannot see the intricate nature of the underlying factors in dating, (and I'm terribly sorry if that comes across as insulting) then you'll know that a guy's character traits and internal beliefs play a huge part in how he sees himself and behaves. It's not all about what women want, it's what also about he perceives about himself. If I was low on confidence, and self sabotaging myself, (which I was when I was yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 10:32 AM
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All women? Obviously not. The issues arise and get further compounded due to how the short guy thinks internally. What works better? - a welcoming open personality where the guy has self worth, is content and knows his place in the world despite seeing himself as short, or a guy who is scorned by his height issues, has low self worth, and looks out at the world with anger? The first guy right? So why not be the first guy despite the height issue? Furthermore, if a guy confines himself to a belie…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 09:42 AM
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Well now the question becomes who are you as a person. What are your beliefs, what drives you, how's your attitude, what's your personality, what's your outlook on life and on and on. So many factors come into it. For example if you're coming across as desperate, it's going to show no matter who you are. You could be Adonis himself but if you're desperate, that's a no go for any woman. I simply refuse to believe that a guy can't find a woman to get with on his level. Unless he doesn't know what …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 09:24 AM
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You guys are something else... Self sabotage runs through you folks' veins by this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 09:15 AM
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So where did all your terminology come from? How do you think any language is formed? It's people finding common ground and using words to describe phenomena. It's not like the English language was invented by one guy, who we all learned it from. Language is something that organically forms and evolves. If you go into a hospital, the doctors have their own 'speak' and terminology so yes you're right. And furthermore, those terms are simply to describe a condition or a situation. It has no bearin…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 09:13 AM
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Huh? No one has ever said it's toxic masculinity to get off their ass. Not sure you know what that term means. I'm glad you got the proactive lifestyle you needed to get you in a better place. A lot of men and women are not so lucky and fall really far down before they realise where they are, at which point they definitely will need both depression medication and therapy to get back to ground level. A lot of depression stems from negative beliefs and feelings that are repeated often in the mind …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 08:50 AM
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I'm going to answer for OP again here. Unfortunately this reads like entitlement and a general lack of self awareness. I see so many guys here say how they can't get sex and want 10/10 Stacy. You can't just go from 0-100mph in a blink. To get to 10/10 Stacy you have to work your way through many facets of yourself. Especially internal characteristics like we keep saying. If I placed you in a room full of really beautiful women chances are you'll panic and be out of your depth. You'll look at oth…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 08:24 AM
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It's about whether or not women see you as better than most of their options This part is the problem. This is an illusion created from the many talking points that have been read online that has then been internalised. If you can't see what this sentence says it means you rejected yourself long before she ever would or could. Hence it's an internal issue within the person who believes this akin to the black pill Nihilistic belief that "it's over, forget even trying because you're not worth it" …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 08:10 AM
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This is such a shitty cop out answer. You're basically stating that all forms of therapy is pointless when you've never tried it. A psychiatrist prescribes medication. A psychologist /therapist looks to changing habits and beliefs. If you went to one you'd know this. Your comments show your lack of reasoning.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 09:35 PM
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You've rattled the hornet's nest OP. Wish you luck in having the patience to put up with the comments you're getting.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 09:32 PM
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That's not red pill and you know it. It's black pill incel bullshit. Stop pretending to be red pilled. Height and looks are merely observations in the red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 09:29 PM
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Ah ok now I understand what you meant. A guy could have sex with a prostitute any time he wants. That would satisfy the sexual urge albeit at a cost. Plus maybe the guy will say he wants something more meaningful than sex with a prostitute where he wants to feel bonded. That then gives sex a different meaning to the persons involved. It can still be seen as stupid from others' perspectives and that's fine I suppose.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 02:37 PM
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That, I agree with
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 02:21 PM
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Also, in the pursuit of trying to get sex, a lot of guys end up doing and saying a lot of dumb things (like 'till death do us part' to some woman in front of an audience) because when most guys are trying to get laid, all reason goes out the window, and women know this and so they use it to their advantage. Not sure I agree or fully understand this part of your post. You don't say till death do us part for sex. You do it for love. If you're doing it for sex, it's going to be one painful journey …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 02:18 PM
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Hmmm. If the guy has contempt for women similar to how some guys here do, is that sex binding? That's if those guys ever get that far.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 02:14 PM
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My mindset that is quoted above, is a direct response and outcome of the catalog dating culture. Of course, if you have views on how to respond to this catalog dating culture in a better way or different way, I'm all ears. You have my utmost sympathy in terms of the dating scene today. I'm 40 and from a time where internet dating had simple sites like plenty of fish and match.com where you simply created your profile and winked at people as an ice breaker and if they winked back or messaged you …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 02:15 AM
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Yea... At which point, you form a false belief amongst your community of 2000 individuals and forget that there's a world full of 8 billion people that are out there. That's called anecdotal, not empirical.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 01:43 AM
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Catastrophization 👆🏻
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 01:38 AM
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Would you look at that. No responses to your comment. You definitely did rest your case.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 01:37 AM
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So where did all your terminology come from? Why were they accepted without question? How do you know that what you read is the truth? Those similar experiences are no different than the 'are we dating the same guy' posts. They're anecdotal, not empirical...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 12:23 AM
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Did you feel attacked so you attacked back?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 12:15 AM
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Not the same person you're asking the question from but it comes down to experience, knowledge, and hindsight. Which is superior in the following scenario: every day life that has existed since the beginning of time where we've all lived and loved, and everything in between, or believing and fully giving ourselves and our time and energy to a 22 year old ideology known as the red pill?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 12:10 AM
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Most of these folks are neurodivergent and either know it and don't do anything about it or are simply unaware and their condition has gone undiagnosed.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 12:06 AM
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To answer this question you have to understand what is ethical and what is unethical in context.. For example if the red pill is used to encourage critical thinking, self-awareness, and personal growth, then it can be considered a positive and ethical concept. The red pill does in fact advocate for self improvement in terms of self grooming, keeping in shape etc. Where it's unethical is by promoting the dark arts as I mentioned, namely Machiavellianism, narcissism, and psychopathy. If you were t…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 12:00 AM
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If this describes you, get help - it means you have been indoctrinated to believe something which has in turn worsened your situation. Funny, I could say the same thing about you. You started off as a 'normie' - you were a happy go lucky child just like the rest of us, being raised by your parents. Where it might have gone wrong for you was probably in your teens when you developed a higher level of conscience and began to become self aware. You might have been bullied, who knows. So then you be…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 11:31 PM
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I see you're not here for a decent discussion or willing to understand yet were only too happy to make a point.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 11:27 PM
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He's trying to say that on top of your trauma, you've been brainwashed and you've been believing things that are detrimental to your endeavours for happiness and getting what you desire aka women. Time to wake up.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 11:11 PM
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The history of it is important because it shows just how far it has fallen from its position prior. So that you can make a judgement call on whether it is a healthy ideology for the young minds that follow it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 10:45 PM
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You think men LIKE being angry? I’m sorry but that’s an absurd claim. That was not the claim. More about falling for a loop due to emotional vulnerability that the person was deeply entrenched in before he fell down the rabbit hole. The real reason why the red pill has gained popularity is because it’s a forum where men can connect and relate to other men who share the same experiences as them when it comes to dating, sex, and women. Every red pilled man became red pilled because of their experi…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 10:30 PM
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If you're a 16 year old guy who is insecure like the majority of guys that age are naturally, when you see a guy succeeding with a girl, do you think you'd have sound logic at that age to be able to point out why that guy succeeded and you didn't? Chances are you'll use faulty logic and end up hating yourself further due to lack of experience and knowledge.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 08:49 PM
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Hitting the gym, grooming better, dressing better, talking to a lot of women to force myself to get past rejection anxiety ect... those things did. Have said exactly the same things too. A man must do the very things that bring him pain to then surpass them. But a lot of guys don't even realise this. Instead most shy away. If a person is neurodivergent, things take a turn for the worst. They take things to extremes.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 08:43 PM
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Not once do I get asked how I came to be content to myself so that I could expand on it and give pointers. When I have done, the response has been that I was virtue signalling and to get off my high horse. You can't win in these communities. Like mentioning how therapy is important. But since these guys are so deep in the throes of the red pill and being manly, they see therapy as a weakness. All the while they're most likely neurodivergent that makes things even more difficult for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 08:30 PM
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Well we're now both giving our opinions and we can agree on some things and disagree on others. Just the way it should be.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 08:26 PM
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So whose side are you on here?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 08:20 PM
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So is misogyny ok? Especially knowing that misogyny leads to violence against women due to its dehumanising nature. Misogyny, internalised misogyny and toxic masculinity can lead to cultural, internal and community acceptance of violence against women and girls. Are you ok with that?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 08:15 PM
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Sure, I can be an asshole. But do let me know whether I was being an asshole in my OP once you choose to read it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 08:09 PM
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Just came back from a jog. Your turn to go outside bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 08:06 PM
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Anger is the emotion that surfaces whilst the real feeling lies underneath such as sadness or depression and the likes. Yes anger can be used as a catalyst for change but in scenarios such as my post, the guys get stuck in a cycle of rage. That can be a big issue for a lot of guys who find the red pill. They're supposed to go through the 5 phases of grief but most get stuck with rage and don't end up going beyond that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 08:06 PM
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I'm in the UK so a lot of political issues in America are lost on me. I discussed right wing in terms of an ideology rather than a political stance. For example if we discuss authoritarianism. Is that born of left wing or right wing ideology?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 07:58 PM
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So you called him an asshole for his baiting and then did the same thing yourself? What does that make you? Now address my OP while you're at it so we can have a decent discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 07:47 PM
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My personal view is right wing ideology usually supports tradition and keeping things the way that they already are. The right-wing supports tradition and authority. In relation to the far right, I'm of the belief that you don't choose to become far right. You end up there out of circumstance, or lack of self awareness where your emotions have been hijacked. These are the reactionaries. That's where I use the term right wing pipeline. Then add all the tropes like woke, simp, beta, cuck and so on…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 07:27 PM
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Totally missed the point. Good job.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 07:10 PM
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Is there a problem with that if I was? It doesn't address the issues I've put forward. Just seems like a deflection tactic by you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 06:20 PM
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This. Said it better than I could. Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 06:18 PM
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Look around you. Incels masquerading as red pill men. Any talk or height or looks give that away
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 05:51 PM
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Yes of course. But if you fall down a rabbit hole online where you're told what to be angry about and you accept it without question then it means you were emotionally vulnerable to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 05:50 PM
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I'm actually centrist. There's a faction of the right wing that takes things to the extreme. Maybe I should have been more clear.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 05:48 PM
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We are all on the spectrum. I'm comfortable with my sexuality. If I went into a gay bar and a guy approached me, I'd think of that as a compliment. How would you feel? Your response and emotional state will tell a lot about how comfortable you are in your own skin, or lack thereof.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 05:13 PM
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1 - You are still not looking at the reasons why young men turn to the RP in the first place.. It is not ONLY because they are lonely, it is because virtually all young men witness the bad-boy phenomena during highschool and early twenties. The blue-pill ignores this as if it doesn't exist. Every human being will have their own beliefs (regardless of age) intertwined with what they see and begin to believe. If a person is lacking in experience and knowledge, then consider how they are a clean sl…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 05:07 PM
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Right wing pipeline. Now you have to find out what right wing means in greater context to understand why all the groups I've listed are right leaning.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 04:58 PM
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Cool so go ahead and believe in a 23 year old ideology and remain unhappy. That's what matters after all. Gotta ask yourself: are you happy? Besides if that's all you picked from my post then that says many things doesn't it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 04:53 PM
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The red pill is part of the right wing pipeline that also included incels, neckbeards, PUAs, and Neo Nazi's. They all have a common enemy: women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 04:46 PM
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In regards to the way I look, no. Coz while I'm in the process of getting fitter, even if I become athlete type of fit, I won't be as hot as someone who is 6' and fit. So between these two versions, women would choose the latter. This is a very damaging way of thinking about yourself. Why would you compare yourself to another person? I'm guessing you're quite young? Think about it this way. Even if you were exactly the same look and height as the other guy, you'll go and find something else to g…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 03:27 PM
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Do it through actions not words.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 01:08 PM
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Heh. There must have been a reason why you felt compelled to respond in the manner that you did. So I decided to take a look at your profile and... my extreme narcissism and high self-esteem is what gets me what I want. Well there we have it. A self aware wolf out in the wild.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 01:06 PM
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Yes precisely this. I've had discussion with guys in public who have spouted that they are alpha males as well as on here. Hint: if you have to outright tell me that you are alpha, then you are anything but an alpha. Being alpha (no such term exists unless you are a wolf who looks after his family) then it's about the way you carry yourself and the way you act rather than trying to convince someone with words. Besides, the manosphere movement which solely exists online has become a toxic place f…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 11:18 AM
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I have been to therapy for family issues, am going now again for social issues. However I believe both internal and external matter. Yes absolutely both matter and both are linked. It's a mind and body thing. You'll find so many guys in the real world who concentrate solely on their looks where they exercise and keep in shape and groom well yet they neglect the internal aspects. We are all carrying forms of trauma and they need to be addressed otherwise in due course they will become bigger than…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 10:43 AM
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You miss out that external reasons affect internal beliefs. Yes absolutely. However one must be very careful not to take what is essentially anecdotal evidence as fact. Now you might say that how could it be anecdotal if you got rejected full on by a woman and were made to feel terrible. The answer is that so many factors feed into it. Her state of mind for example. She might be good looking but she could be extremely insecure. Or she could be a total asshole. Women aren't angels ya know? Plus o…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 08:58 PM
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This is all very sad to see. Power and status comes when you actually feel comfortable in your own skin and instead of sabotaging yourself daily, you become your own best friend and create healthy boundaries. But let's just continue to look for external reasons rather than looking within. Always the same with you lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 02:54 PM
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You're deliberately being obtuse here. The men here wouldn't dare say even 5% of the shit they say in this forum in the real world. And that's if they actually go outside in the first place. These men are cowards in the real world. It's far easier to spout this shit online from the comfort of their home via their anonymous usernames.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 05:22 AM
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Sure except they slut shame for no reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 12:52 AM
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Neurodivergence is a monster. If it goes unchecked, it can cause so many issues in areas that come naturally to neurotypicals. So the recommendation is always the case for therapy.
/r/ExRedPill19/03/23 11:12 PM
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The men who make a big deal about women's body count are the same guys who have 0 body count themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 11:06 PM
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This mostly applies to PUA and BP spaces The black pill is essentially a self inflicted community of individuals who believe in false dichotomies. The whole height and looks issue and the loss of hope is what I'm talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 07:36 PM
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What was the point of reading dating stuff if you're not going to apply it Analysis paralysis.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 11:56 AM
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There is also the danger of online communities that can swallow up a person in its negative spiral causing him to freefall into self hate due to beliefs bestowed upon him by said community. All the while he thinks he's found his true home amongst others like him while totally unaware of his downfall.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 09:33 AM
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The rage loop is very addictive
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 02:15 PM
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This was very painful to read on so many levels. Your feelings of contempt and being scorned was on show from the first letter to the last. Forgive my direct question here but are you neurodivergent by any chance?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 10:47 AM
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Indeed of course not. Some of these individuals are not on the spectrum. As a result I consider them as worst off than those who are neurodivergent since since these individuals know their issues and yet still do nothing but act entitled. Makes you wonder whether they've been brainwashed or simply lacking in intelligence (which would explain the easy brainwashing due to lack of critical thinking and reasoning skills)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 11:47 PM
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They have bad attitudes that they refuse to clean up. That's just one example out of many
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 11:36 PM
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Neurodivergence is a monster.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 11:35 PM
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Men can be victims for many reasons. Such as victim complex, which is a trait found in narcissism. Or they could be neurodivergent where for many, they view injustice and betrayal at a far greater level than a neurotypical person would. Or it could be learned behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 11:34 PM
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It's such a damn shame posts like this get taken down as it is seen as an advice post yet the misogyny filled ones stay up. Some great responses in this post.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 11:31 PM
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Indeed we've spoken before and I'm glad you're in a good place. I wish more guys here were. My main point was that the survey was completed by all sorts of people and as a result, the results are skewed.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 10:33 PM
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You seem to be making up your own rules as you go along to keep yourself from feeling hope. Oh well.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 10:14 PM
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A lot of the men who completed the survey as being single were in fwb relationships and the likes. 20 somethings are not renowned for considering themselves as being in serious relationships. So they signed the survey as single. The overall percentage is not accurate. Meanwhile guys here will see that number and their confirmation bias will go in overdrive and the finger pointing at women will start.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 09:30 PM
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I think one of the issues here is that men tend to have a zero sum game mentality especially men with a traditional stance. It's not just economic control but also control of what she can and can't do or say. For me personally, it all becomes a quagmire of bigotry. I'm not saying all relationships are like this between these kinds of individuals since life isn't black and white, but I believe these traditional viewpoints can lead to problems for one party.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 03:53 PM
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All religions are 'traditional' and we can see just how happy the women are in some of those religions... Islam anyone? Or Christianity? I have a friend who is a devout Muslim and he's been married for 10 years. He's recently been discussing the idea of having a second wife. He has 4 kids. Poor woman has no say in the matter due to the religious aspects that gives him full freedom. When you ask him why he wants a second wife his reasoning is he wants more kids even though his wife is 33. I pushe…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 03:00 PM
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Yes indeed, I thought it was worth covering the other perspectives of the same talking point. Always good to multi-thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 02:43 PM
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If we go by the whole premise of these guys wanting a '18 year old beautiful female for breeding' -which I read often on here, that's what I'm mindful of. That's all about control and use of her body, and the abuse of her mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 02:35 PM
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'Traditional values' usually means wanting full control of another person. That's my take anyway. Happy to have my views changed.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 02:22 PM
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This is a guy LARPing as a girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 02:13 PM
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What do you bring to the fore? Close to whatever she wants. I am a lawyer. So I bring status and enough money to support both of us comfortably. I could support children if I wanted them. I'm guessing you are religious? I ask because the very notion of a stay at home wife is against my own personal beliefs since it would place way too much burden on me as the breadwinner and covert narcissism and resentment could begin to manifest in the long term. Plus it would mean that I get to have a say and…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 11:57 AM
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What do you bring to the fore? What values do you bring? What do you rate yourself out of 10 in terms of looks?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 10:09 AM
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My dude... You are stuck in a state of analysis paralysis where you point to those studies often claiming that they are accurate which will then validate your negative assessment of yourself to yourself. You'll trawl through many people just to find that one person who will agree with you. You have to work with what you have. You have to be your own best friend. Right now you're not showing that. It's why you're here seeking negative truths to your situation. This says more about your internal b…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 07:42 AM
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You have my sympathy. It's not easy at all in knowing what to do. I'm more than twice your age and I remember how I felt. It was horrible. I had so many flawed beliefs. It's a journey. And you have to get on that journey. You have to do the very things you're afraid of. It's clear to see that you have modesty and humility as well as hope. NEVER lose those qualities. If you look in this sub, there are guys who have lost those qualities and they are struggling terribly.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 07:32 AM
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Dude. You're the one judging yourself negatively. You're the one rejecting yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 07:08 AM
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That doesn't even make sense. I'm really sorry that you're in a bad place. I wish you the very best in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 07:06 AM
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Good luck OP. There's a million ways you can gain the confidence that you need. Just please be aware of all the negative places online that can drag a person down.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 07:06 AM
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You can attack me all you like. It won't solve your issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 07:02 AM
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So what are you going to do? Nothing? Will you forever come on here and say 'waaa my height!' - take charge. Take responsibility. I get it, height is a problem but not as much of a problem as you guys have magnified it as.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 07:02 AM
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Why do you guys have an answer for everything? Your response is a cop out. But don't let me stop you. The world will go on without you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 06:54 AM
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So that's it? Some 'study' said this and therefore you now feel vindicated and validated to stay in a rut and do nothing? It's in the face of adversity that we grow and conquer. But if you sit there and say 'woe is me' every day, then this is your problem, not anyone else's. No one on this earth wants someone who complains or refuses to pick themselves up.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 06:53 AM
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I would love to see a post on here for once where the guy comes in and says "hey, so my internal world is in chaos. I have zero self worth and feel utterly lost. How can I be more confident" - because that would show that he is self aware. Your height isn't your issue OP. It's your mindset. Think about it. If it wasn't your height, with your current mindset you'd find something else that you saw as a negative about yourself and so on. You need to fix what's inside.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 05:59 AM
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You're the first genuine guy on here who is eloquent and open about who he is which is why you'll be just fine in the future. The only tip I can give you is that while you work on your external factors such as looks, please also consider your internal world where you learn how to show yourself the love you deserve from yourself and where you understand your own negative emotions if and when they show themselves to you. There's so much on the inside that can change a man into a king. I'm really r…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 11:15 PM
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No you're not a bad person. It's just very unfortunate that you've been made to believe a fallacy that is hurting your chances and potential as well as your feelings. I find it hard to watch so many guys here taking on an ideology that is self defeating. I'm not sure what I can do to help guys here to what it is I'm trying to portray. I'm out of ideas for now but I'll keep trying.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 10:41 PM
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You guys believe in some fucked up version of eugenics
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 09:25 PM
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Nope. Looks and height are observations in the red pill. That was until the black pillers and incels came along masquerading as red pilled and brought their new rules.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 09:24 PM
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You folks are really daft. Sounds like you want to suffer and don't want help
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 08:33 PM
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That's not what OP asked. Read again
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 06:45 PM
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The state of these questions... Makes me think either someone with neurodivergence is asking it or someone who is 14 and has zero understanding of life in general. The answer is it depends on the person making the observations because it's dependent on their beliefs and views on what they think has more value. What's your opinion on the question that you've asked here OP?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 06:41 PM
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Yea I instantly thought of the same when I read it back to myself. But I suppose it's true.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 04:44 PM
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I'm trying to tell you that when you have self esteem and a feeling like you belong in this world you won't feel 'ugly' But if you keep believing in whatever you've been told about looks then you'll remain stuck and will refuse to believe otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 03:33 PM
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By believing that he's not 'average' looking. That belief has been bestowed upon him due to what he's read online and internalised from the circles he's been deeply entrenched in. He could get therapy to de-program his current beliefs.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 09:14 AM
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This is a very bad faith argument. I guess some people just want to pull others down instead of raising them up.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 08:44 PM
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Who told you that? We all need therapy of some sort. It doesn't mean we're not men or that we're weak. It just means that we didn't learn what is healthy for us. My advice: CBT. You'll thank yourself for taking the chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 03:44 PM
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Yea see, you have all the time in the world to sort out that thing between your ears which is currently programmed to work against you. Honestly, therapy is your greatest ally.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 03:43 PM
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Get therapy man. Like seriously. Sounds like body dysmorphia
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 03:42 PM
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How old are you. Because age and experience feed a lot into how we feel about our looks. I'm 40 and I've never felt better about myself. It's a culmination of 25 years of trails and tribulations
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 03:41 PM
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See what you did there? You missed the point. No. I feel sorry for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 03:37 PM
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Yes we've all been there. But what that says is that you were already feeling that way about yourself before they even said that. Think about how often you put yourself down compared to that one time they said it. We don't think of how unkind we are to ourselves. My internal dialogue to myself was like an abusive father. It was only in my 30's that I understood how limiting it was in how I treated myself. Loving yourself is the greatest cheat code on earth. Learn it dude. I guarantee you it will…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 03:34 PM
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Looks are a construct. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder but I know I'll get downvoted for that just like the rest of what I've put. I have a huge Gerrard Depardieu nose. Like seriously. And as a young 16 year old I fucking hated myself and the way I looked. And it led me down a dark path of self loathing where I lost so much time and energy worrying what others thought of me. So much time wasted. I could have easily chosen to have liked myself for looking the way I did but no one told me I h…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 03:31 PM
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It's neurodivergence at the heart of it. And it breaks my heart.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 03:26 PM
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I can't believe it's resorting to the point that I have to say this but those are your projections. Surely you know this. I’m in no way suggesting anything on this list immediately makes someone ugly, they’re just ugly traits that, some people can have some of these traits and still be unattractive. If they didn’t have these traits, they would immediately become more attractive for it. Why would you care what other folks look like, gotta concentrate on getting yourself looking the best you can t…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 03:25 PM
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My second sentence mentioned that. Toxic people find other toxic people. What's not to understand here?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 02:24 PM
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You certainly got parts of the personality traits right such as being hatefulness, selfishness, dishonesty, jealousy, narcissism, and being controlling. Those are true. Looks: Short, balding, {rule 6}, recessed chin, poor facial hair, large forehead, underweight or obese, bad teeth, poor sense of fashion. Short: Nope. Shortness is just a preference and an observation. Some women are fully into short guys but you folks won't accept that. This speaks more about self hate that has been instilled du…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 02:23 PM
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Sorry too many chats at one time. Remind me what makes a man ugly. Both physically and from a perspective of characteristics and personality
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 01:48 PM
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It's a death sentence. Congrats.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 01:47 PM
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Those are brainwashings. If anything you should be angry at your parents for giving birth to you. Why would you be angry at women? Spoiler alert: everyone finds someone on their level. It's just that you won't accept that due to your indoctrination where you think all women are the same
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 12:57 PM
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By lashing out at the world as if the world owes them what they think they deserve. Life doesn't owe us Jack. We make life what we want it to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 11:42 AM
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I have a fwb So that was a lie... Presses X for doubt If you were happy with yourself, you wouldn't be here arguing with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 11:41 AM
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I love how you folks go out of your way to find that one case to make your confirmation biases upon. Like I said, you can continue to remain in misery. It's. Your. Choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 11:15 AM
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All that stuff comes in to it when you become your own best friend. The guys here have been taught to be their own worst enemies. And there was no point in your insult. It doesn't affect me considering my life is exactly what you wish you had. But don't let me stop you from being miserable.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 11:13 AM
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That's it?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 10:51 AM
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Well yea. The problem is that these guys have been hoodwinked to believe that they are ugly. Was ER ugly? The dude had the chiselled jaw and decent looks and look how that worked out. Let's talk about personality, mental health, attitude and everything in between.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 10:51 AM
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Just how much logic and common sense do you think the majority of young persons (boy or girl) actually have? The answer is very little. We're all hyped and want to belong to whatever groups out there, some of which are toxic such as the young girls chasing stars even if they are toxic.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 10:14 AM
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Do you believe that was the right conclusion to make? We call that flawed logic and a logical fallacy. Situations like that get further compounded if we then seek out information for our situation that inadvertently takes us further in the wrong direction compared where we were hoping to go whilst unbeknownst to us. I'm 40 now but when I was in college some 20 years ago, I was in the exact same situation as you. I couldn't catch a break to save my life when it came to success with girls. Except …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 09:26 AM
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Define attraction beyond looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 09:10 AM
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I'm confused as to what level of attraction you feel you have. Either you think you're attractive and therefore you go for other attractive girls of your own level or you don't. Or are you saying that you should have access to the 10/10 girls while being 1/10? Enlighten me please.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 09:09 AM
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I know im unattractive because all the women who are attracted to me are unattractive How could I possibly be in your corner and fight for your cause when you say something like the above? You lost tons of attraction the moment you said the above sentence. You have so much work to do on yourself in the attitude department.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 08:48 AM
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Now you have to define what "unattractive" actually means. Are we talking someone who looks like Quasimodo? Are we talking about their attitudes towards life and themselves? Are we talking about personality traits? I just posted this in another response so hopefully it helps here. Attraction is so much more than just looks. But if you place all your eggs in the looks basket, you'll neglect every other basket in the attraction subset. Attraction is a trait or quality which causes interest or desi…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 08:18 AM
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I'm not dismissing you one bit. I'm sorry my post came across badly. Wasn't my intention. I'm trying to show you that when you use words like looksmaxxing, it instantly raises a red flag for anyone who reads what you put. I get it. There are all walks of life at all levels out there and in those communities. But why not step away from any of those online communities where they've created their own slang and terminology which carries a negative connotation to it? It's totally at odds with your re…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 07:10 AM
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You folks are scared to look within. Because you know it'll prove us right that your problems have been yourselves all along. Change your attitude, change your outcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 06:53 AM
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"looksmaxxed" well I guess we know what community you belong to but somehow it's women who are the problem. Can't you see that you're the issue here?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 06:51 AM
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I keep saying it. You folks have zero modesty and humility. You think you're ugly and when questioned, you cannot define what ugly means. You rate women using a dehumanising arbitrary number system while carrying a shitty attitude towards life and everything in it and then wonder why you're single. Long before any women can reject you, you folks rejected yourselves from the race. It's not women's fault. It's yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 06:46 AM
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As a 20yo who's got a decent amount going for him (Studies, Physique, Friends, Ambitious) but is single af what's the best advice you would have? Change your attitude.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 06:40 AM
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sigh the 1/3 guys who haven't had sex would do much better if they didn't end up falling down online rabbit holes and falling for misinformation which then warps their minds into believing extremes and causing them great harm. Here's a challenge for you. See if you can stay off the internet for a month. If you can't, it means you're addicted to the rage loop that you've come to seek subconsciously. Online is not a safe space.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 09:04 PM
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This is a catastrophization loop that the guys here are stuck in. They look at the kind of guys who are doing well and then they look at themselves and see the opposite. They then point the finger at women as the issue for supposedly having high standards. It's simply not true. It's confirmation bias. Everyone has a chance for happiness and what they desire. They need to stop being chronically online.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 08:19 PM
1

So they're cowards?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 07:31 PM
1

Again. These women do not represent all women. It's territorial.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 07:25 PM
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So you think any woman being abused is toxic herself? Good question. No I don't. It's wrong to label a woman who is being abused at toxic. There are caveats to everything. Toxic is a general term that describes many facets. Now we can drill deeper. A woman could have experienced many toxic relationships after which she ends up in other toxic relationships due to normalisation of that toxicity unbeknownst to her. Another woman could be toxic whilst actively knowing the she's toxic and therefore s…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 07:24 PM
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Indeed. So with that said, it goes to show there are all sorts of men and women with different ideologies and mindsets and shortcomings in terms of self esteem who have all sorts of different desires and preferences. In the case of women who are after someone like Chris Brown (a known woman beater) - from society's point of view, those women are not high quality considering they overlook his violent conducts.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 06:59 PM
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Who or what has made them believe that though? It's cultural. It's peer pressure. It's social. It's societal. Just as boys get a crush on a woman in the media, so too do girls. Girls talk amongst themselves. They build ideas and beliefs that become the status quo of what 'high status' looks like. It's far too nuanced to try and mention in one post. But it's forever in flux and changing. Plus think of who is pushing the agendas. Feminism wanted to concentrate on what women wanted from society. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 06:51 PM
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I guess toxic people attract toxic people. Who knew 🤷🏻 If your whole world view is ruled by superficial things like looks, height and fame etc then I'm afraid you're in for a very bad time.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 06:36 PM
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So what you're saying is that high quality women who has her shit in order will happily let a good looking guy treat her like total shit in every way just because he's good looking? Would you let a good looking woman treat you like shit? Isn't that called being a simp?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 06:34 PM
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First you'd have to fully explain what it means to be 'high quality' and we're not talking just looks. In your opinion, is Chris Brown high quality? And we're not talking status. I'm talking whether you think he's good looking as well as personality wise.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 06:23 PM
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I love it when a nuanced answer sits at the top. It restores my faith in humanity.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 06:20 PM
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Those young girls have been made to believe that he's the kind of guy that they should chase. The majority of these girls will grow to realise that they were sold a lie. A minority will continue to chase the status and won't recognise the toxicity that ensues. Everything is down to experience and new learning opportunities.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 06:17 PM
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Are those women that are drawn to status especially that of a woman beater considered high quality women?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 06:14 PM
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I'm a guy but ok. I'm asking whether you think you deserve a 10/10 woman. So do you?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 06:12 PM
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Of course. There are all walks of life out there due to consequences and circumstances
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 05:17 PM
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There are no incel women - some incel probably.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 05:10 PM
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My question is why are you talking about what you DON'T want and talk about what you DO want. So what do you want? And furthermore, what do you rate yourself as in terms of looks?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 05:08 PM
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So are you saying that you are Adonis and deserve a 10/10 woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 04:25 PM
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Are rappers the best example you can come up with? You sound quite young. If you want a high quality woman, she won't let you call her a bitch.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 04:21 PM
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There's a post here on PPD right now about creepiness of a guy 'a league below' approaching a woman and whether it's accepted Guys here need to read the comments in that post. It tells us about the thousands of levels of context that links to personality. The positive character traits necessary vs the destructive ones. Example: having confidence, humility, modesty, and contentment vs being toxic, a narcissist, victim complex, and many other negative traits. The outcomes will totally differ. But …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 04:13 PM
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Go outside and test your theories. A good start would be to stop calling the beings of your desires as "bitches"
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 12:44 PM
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lol you guys are so lost. Are you sure you should be on the internet? Have you asked permission?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 12:36 PM
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Sure sure but they actually have a woman to fuck. They aren't virgins. They don't spend their days online moping and crying for being a virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 12:36 PM
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You're on to something. And that something is that those 'average' guys didn't fall down rabbit holes online where they ended up digesting misinformation that damaged their view of the dating world. Instead they stayed surface level and built on their confidence, experiences and failures. And the rest is history.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 03:42 AM
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The rites of passage is tied to sex in terms of going from being a boy to becoming a man. It's of paramount importance. They look at themselves and realise that their moment has passed in terms of the whole 'best teen years, prom, falling in love, having sex' and so on. I do feel for them. The problem is that their issues are compounded due to the community they are in which is an echo chamber. And who knows, there may be agent provocateurs amongst them who rile them up further. So they only eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 03:25 AM
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As others have already mentioned, any negative generalisation is a bad thing on both sides. I've heard women who have come out of bad relationships say "all men are bastards!" With sheer contempt and vitriol. I've also heard men who are having a hard time with women use all forms of derogatory comments that paint all women with the same brush stroke. What interests me is that we now have communities of men and women who basically partake in what is essentially seen as self flagellation. Think ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 02:02 AM
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Do you ever wonder if it's propaganda and that those so called women could actually be bots? It does happen you know.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 06:30 AM
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Chronically online people use memes to replace with real life. It's very sad to watch. Are you one of those guys?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 06:26 AM
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I say this on here often and it either falls on deaf ears or outright denied because it doesn't fit the status quo. Guys here supposedly know all about female hypergamy but when you mention that guys are hypogamous, they refuse to accept it. They don't even know that word exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 11:40 PM
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Right wing governments. The conservatives of America, UK, Italy, Eastern Europe. So wtf are you on about lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 08:07 PM
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Well I'm a guy bringing up mental health. It's the pink elephant in the room. Guys need to stop attributing every problem in association with women. Take a look within sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 07:52 PM
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Ow my ego! What will I ever do to overcome this brutal pwnage! Please! Someone help! Heh. Kids these days...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 07:17 PM
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I don't tell men to "leave women alone" as such but more a case of not putting the beings of their desires under the bus with all the misogyny and derogatory comments.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 06:01 PM
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Isn't this just a case of how precedences work? If you have no snapshot of what ever scenario you're in, then the chances of failure are greater. Same could be said for placing one of the guys from this sub in a room full of beautiful women and watching him panic and fail in his endeavours.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 04:41 PM
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I mean if that's the case where they've given up on the rat race then fair enough. But if that same person then complains, then it means he has the capacity to change himself to get what he wants. Otherwise he'd be content in his place in the world with his nihilistic belief in tow. Like I totally get it. It's a tough situation. But by God, some of these guys make it impossible for themselves by the choices they make and the beliefs that they acquire. It causes me despair to see another human be…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 04:02 PM
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If those men have nothing to anyway, and they are not getting any sex, it makes sense to cope with pills to reduce a pointless desire. If these guys decided to stop being chronically online, they'd fare so much better. One look at r/incelexit shows us how many guys are realising their mistakes of labelling themselves as an incel and then trying to climb back out of the rabbit hole. This Nihilist belief that nothing means anything is toxic. It's not even the true meaning of Nihilism. (I personall…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 03:27 PM
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Because?...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 03:13 PM
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We're multi threading here, which is good. Do you agree that to quench your sexual thirst, you have to have other areas of your life in order?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 03:12 PM
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Men aren't women. Men are primed to take on the challenge of being the one who chases the girl he's after. If he thinks all he has to do is to look good in order to get the girl, it pretty much says that he's empty inside. A guy could be Adonis himself, but it won't mean anything if there's no personality or substance to show for it beyond his looks. I simply refuse to believe that everything is dependent on looks. Having self worth and and knowing your place in the world is what gets us far.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 03:10 PM
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So what you're saying is that they have underlying issues such as mental health disorders or neurodivergence? If so there's many therapies that resolve these issues. Why exactly are they unable? Is it a mental block of some sort? A belief system that is causing them harm? What could possibly be causing them to feel unable?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 03:06 PM
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We try to talk to these guys about mental health in here often yet they instantly get aggressive or dismissive. It's quite evident that these guys have unresolved issues. If only they'd take the time to seek the help they need as well as looking within. Rage is a very addictive loop to be stuck in.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 03:00 PM
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With all due respect good sir, you are cherry picking here. I would love to hear you take on how these young men end up in these pills in the first place in relation to what I put. Reducing libido could be an option but it feels more like a cop-out. If only these guys didn't chase the '10/10 Stacie' and instead went for women on their own level. Plus it would help if these guys spent even a week away from being chronically online.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 02:56 PM
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You just showed your lack of experience and knowledge. Look around you. Every single guy here screaming "Hypergamy!" and the likes is emotional to the hilt. They have an abundance of victim complex. How is that stoic in any way?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 02:43 PM
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Men can get sex with prostitution, but it is often not always available and legal, it is very expensive and not as frequent as they would want it. So what's stopping these guys learning how to talk to real normal women in the real world through social skills? What's causing them in seeing women as enemies? How can a man hate a woman while also desiring her above all else? (And please don't respond with 'women are the gatekeepers to sex) Men want something more than sex, but sexual desire can ove…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 02:39 PM
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And thank you for your honesty in your response. It shows you have control of your ego compared to the toxicity we see here from these pilled guys daily. All the best to you friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 02:24 PM
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Yea perfectly put. That's what I got from his post. It was a veiled attempt to address the issues you mention but by misdirection.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 02:21 PM
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For my own understanding, what's stopping these men from having sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 02:18 PM
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Not have children (in part because in any conflict of interests I'd expect my parents to side with baby momma) Don't you find anything wrong with this sentence? Vet girls thoroughly and bolt at any signs of incompatibility. Bigotry on show here. There's no such thing as 100% compatibility. This guy is basically telling us that he's the problem. Perceive any bossy domineering woman as a sexually inert creature only eliciting fight or flight response. "Creature" - you don't have a problem with his…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 02:11 PM
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Yea I'm in the UK.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 12:48 PM
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And the women that chase these guys are not to be admired. That's the real message here.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 11:57 AM
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You and me both then. We need change in this country so desperately.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 11:57 AM
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Nationalist? I consider myself centrist, if there's such a thing anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 11:44 AM
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Are you right wing?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 11:40 AM
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Close enough. The miserable UK.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 11:13 AM
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Sex is a by-product of many other factors. But sure, go ahead and make it the prime directive.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 11:13 AM
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Damn. I've been rumbled. My view is that social media is the slow death of society. The kind of woman who flaunts her worth online is to be avoided at all costs. She's literally telling you that she's not worth your time. What compounds the issue for guys here is the beliefs that they've instilled within such as AWALT and hypergamy, the wall and the likes. Because it makes them unable to find a way out. It's like being in a room with 4 walls and no escape. Of course those women who don't need th…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 11:11 AM
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It's not the nice kind of snow here. Black ice, slippery and frozen :( I haven't seen sunshine in a month.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 10:59 AM
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Nice dodging of the question. Says it all really. No more comments your honour.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 10:45 AM
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So as a guy, what do you bring to the table?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 10:35 AM
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That response wasn't aimed at you specifically. It was general rhetoric speak. But whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 10:22 AM
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It's a sore subject area and you went straight for the jugular. Posting about mothers and mental health makes them scatter away like cockroaches.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 10:12 AM
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You think the kind of woman who chases those toxic guys are worth your time? What does that say about you if you highly tout those toxic women? Why not find the 'tradwife' that you folks mention so often? She isn't someone that you'll find online. She won't even be seen in public looking for attention. She's the rare gem that you have to seek out. But if all your time is spent women-bashing online, you'll miss them in the real world. And all these words like Chad and Beta Brad speak volumes abou…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 10:07 AM
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This is such a silly post filled with superlatives. You think Chris Brown is someone to look up to? Or Drake? Both are toxic as fuck. A woman beater vs a predator. Take your pick.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 09:56 AM
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It's a shame that posts like this never pick up traction here unfortunately. The very same people who cry "Hypergamy! AWALT! The Wall!" shy away from these sort of posts. Wonder why... I'm calling out those guys as total cowards.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 09:53 AM
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A person can have quiet confidence instead of the inflated ego bravado type. I agree, but quiet Sigmas aren't the norm, they're rare exceptions. And there a plenty of guys who have good qualities, are good at what they do, confident in their particular skill sets, but may not be the best in social situations or when flirting with women. I don't really believe in labels like alpha or sigma or beta and so on. We're all humans with our many flaws. To place a label on ourselves other than being mere…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 11:19 PM
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As ever, depends on many factors. For example for me, I was seeking respect, appreciation, love, and someone who wanted to be in my corner in tough times. Sex was never the primary directive. I always saw sex as a byproduct of the things I mentioned above.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 10:50 PM
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So what you're saying here is that you refuse to accept the whole field of psychology? (Of which the dark arts are what red pillers advocate and internalise) Mental health illnesses are a monster to manage if left untreated. You'll see me mention often how the majority of guys here are clearly neurodivergent. There's a complete lack of empathy and nuance from these guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 10:03 PM
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A person can have quiet confidence instead of the inflated ego bravado type. The quiet kind is very attractive to women because he knows who he is, he knows his worth, and he doesn't make excuses for himself. He goes after what he wants. Plus should he get rejected, his modesty and humility characteristics helps him in processing the situation compared to the guy with the inflated yet fragile ego who might act toxic in a rejection scenario.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 09:54 PM
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My last paragraph in my previous reply was just me being a little shit, bad habit. Glad to see you had insight on your own bad habit. But then... It was actually covert narcissism? Self-diagnosed? Or by a pseudoscientist witch doctor? Yea it was a shaman in a village in the Amazon. Of course it was a qualified therapist. They didn't get to the bottom of shit Hmm is this more about your lack of belief in therapy or being passive aggressive towards me? Neither mean much to me to be honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 09:25 PM
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Would he have confidence and charisma in the first place if his internal characteristics are the former in my previous post? That's what I was trying to get at.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 09:15 PM
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I went to therapy with a qualified therapist for 3 years and managed to get to the bottom of a lot of issues and childhood trauma that had festered and became a monster of its own by the time I was 21. Am 40 now.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 09:12 PM
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What about his internal characteristics? If we compare being petulant, toxic, self loathing as examples vs modest, respectful, content and self caring, which side would serve him better?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 08:49 PM
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A martyr is basically a yes man who doesn't want to upset the status quo. Someone who doesn't like confrontation. That was definitely the case for myself in my past. Not saying you had your reasons but such thinking cannot be justified as anything but bigotry. The most problematic types of people sense and cast judgement. Oh absolutely. I'm not without my faults. I will never be the full package or the final version of myself. I'll forever want to learn everything. I was very entitled and felt l…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 08:40 PM
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Yea exactly some people play the martyr (I actually used to be like this due to my upbringing) - It's still a transactional mindset. Sometimes it's not as toxic as the real Nice Guy™ but you still sense they want something in return while not knowing much about them. Not in an enigma sort of way but an unsettling one as you mentioned. Usually sprouts from an unresolved internal issue or similar.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 07:23 PM
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Now define 'woke'
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 07:13 PM
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Yea I'm giving them way more credit than deserved. They're so sexist and misogynistic
/r/ExRedPill09/03/23 06:44 PM
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It's called self deprecation, which is a healthy way of keeping one's ego in check. Not sure why you got so angry. You ok?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 05:01 PM
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I guess not🤷🏻
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 04:53 PM
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You ok there buddy?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 04:51 PM
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You ok there buddy?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 04:49 PM
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Are these the beliefs of a red piller or black pilled guys who masquerade as red pilled? I ask because red I feel actual pilled guys get past that stage and have the capacity to get results whereas those who actively call themselves black pilled refuse to change, are extreme Nihilists, and also have a very high level of entitlement. Basically autistic levels of entitlement.
/r/ExRedPill09/03/23 04:40 PM
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Why are all of these takes so robotic and insane? Unchecked neurodivergence is a monster. Either that or we're dealing with genuine sociopaths and narcissists.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 03:55 PM
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If you go back to the original red pill from 20 years ago pre-social media times, you'll know about 'peacocking' - items that a guy would wear and use to get attention of the women. That was their gateway into the next step of initiating conversation and so on. In other words, the men created the tools to enhance their chances of being noticed and gaining attention. Fast forward to today where social media has basically allowed men and women to gain attention through the digital medium, and you …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 03:12 PM
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I listened to the audio book. At the end of the day, it's whatever you want it to be. If you desire to gain insight in how to manipulate, then that's what you'll see and gain from it. If you want it for empowerment of the self, that too is applicable. It's why the book is highly touted because it speaks to us. There are parts that are considered 'amoral' and critics have labelled the book as 'psychobabble' - but that's just how it goes when times change since the book was written. For example th…
/r/ExRedPill09/03/23 02:30 PM
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Learn about the right wing pipeline. Red pill, black pill, incels, neckbeards, PUA, Neo Nazi's - they all share a common enemy - women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 12:03 PM
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There's an agenda. And the agenda is hidden behind the one example picked out of millions. Why did OP go off to do such a thing? Surely he wants a well rounded open discussion right? Or was he pandering to his base?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 11:49 AM
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I've written a long ass reasons as a separate post in here. Would love to have your eloquent and well nuanced output on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 11:48 AM
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I could play buzzword bingo from all your right wing tropes there buddy. You mistake thinking I get offended. I actually feel utter despair at the mental state of some men in here who live their lives online and end up getting chronically indoctrinated. But don't let me stop you. Every human being will have an epiphany moment. It's very painful when it happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 11:47 AM
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Ok let's do this. And I hope you will have an eloquent response to my input afterwards. At no point should a 31yr old woman be seeking to get with a 13yr old boy. It says there's something terribly wrong with her to begin with. It says that she herself might have been abused and therefore normalised to such abhorrent behaviour. Is she considered as a functioning member of society? So it's worth taking that into account - so for OP to pick this case is telling. Call it strawman, call it gesticula…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 11:34 AM
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You're on a roll today aren't you. I truly hope you find peace in your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 11:07 AM
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Most recently a woman ask me to pick her up as she was out with her roommate and friend I suppose but the woman abandoned her...she had no money and was left stranded. I picked her up then explained the situation and she said she would stay with me for awhile ..at first I said ok,but after two days on the road I changed my mind. The girl needs professional help she claims she's bipolar I believe her ...but even worst she's rude and lazy she's very attractive and probably why she gets away with a…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 10:59 AM
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That's not what I was alluding to at all. But if that's the conclusion that you instantly jumped to then it shows where your head is at my friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 10:34 AM
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Tell me more about what you know about the ego or the Id, as Plato first described it, which Carl Jung then took to create new concepts from. After which we can discuss the nuances as well as your post.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 10:33 AM
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So you refuse to actually engage in a well meaning conversation where you want to learn something new, or where you try to see others' points of view. Makes sense I suppose. The indoctrination runs deep doesn't it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 10:28 AM
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Now talk about men's self inflicted problems like falling for the many right wing pipeline propaganda. Or falling down rabbit holes that leads him astray and causes him anguish and misery where he begins to see women as the enemy. Or let's talk about toxic masculinity where men refuse to fix their issues. Depression, neurodivergence, and the many mental health issues that plagues men. I'll wait.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 10:11 AM
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There are many agent provocateurs in this sub that push an agenda.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 09:55 AM
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Indeed it's the right wing pipeline. Red pill, black pill, incels, neckbeards, PUA, Neo Nazi's - they all share a common enemy - women.
/r/ExRedPill09/03/23 08:15 AM
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It doesn't. It's a "See!? See!? My anecdotal evidence has been proven correct! AF/BB!! I trawled online for many hours and finally found a post that validates my views!!1!" They will then go on their way believing that all women think and act the same way. It's just sad to watch. Of course you'll find all forms of nuance. But to seek out this level of affirmation is just so toxic and self limiting.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 08:01 AM
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Thank you so much for your kind words. To think where I was and where I've ended up are two different worlds. It's why I vehemently state that these pills are cults that recruit the naive and the desperate in society. It's a form of grooming. I went deep down that rabbit hole. I thankfully had my epiphany moment and then had to really fight hard to get back out. I fully believe these men here are capable of the same. If I could do it, so can they. So I'll continue to fight with reasoning and log…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 08:43 PM
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Unfortunately it comes with the territory. These young men are hurting and I hate to see a fellow human being suffer especially needlessly due to skewed beliefs (no doubt someone's bound to come along and mention how I have some sort of Messiah complex or some such) As an ex red piller I was brash. I'd walk around calling myself an alpha male, and had a huge inflated ego despite a very fragile one, mixed in with some very toxic beliefs about women, lack of self worth, added self loathing, and a …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 05:29 PM
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Looks are subjective. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Next topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 04:36 PM
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Are we saying that when we look at the majority of guys here who make misogynistic posts and use derogatory terms towards women are already past that point of no return? We don't know how much they've tried. Was it 2 approaches before they gave up or 2000? Did they keep hope throughout or did they read information such as red pill or black pill doctrine before even stepping out, thereby killing their own chances of success before they even started? So many questions that need answering.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 03:56 PM
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It's really not that complex. The people that make it super complex are those who are beyond autistic in their approach where they want to control everything and every outcome. That's simply not possible. Plus one has to consider that a lot of people are afraid of failure which is why they want to make sure every base is covered. When a person has analysis paralysis, they'll get stuck in a rut trying to learn every aspect of the theory behind dating. What they don't realise is that the are activ…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 03:41 PM
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What he is trying to say is that men should concentrate on their own shortcomings, of which there are plenty before embarking on putting the spotlight on women. The manosphere doesn't seem to be a community of well meaning guys who try to help each other. Instead it's filled with bitter men who are desperate to get their desires met with the least amount of effort, making it a toxic place overall.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 02:57 PM
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Loss of hope is a death sentence. And these guys don't realise that when they join these cults like red/black pill, they actively kill hope. Let them find out the hard way 🤷🏻
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 09:39 AM
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That's a fair answer and I'll rebut it with the following: to say one is happy is an all encompassing term for everything you wrote and more. The fulfillment and self actualisation that you mentioned fit into 'happy' - now consider how every day is groundhog day where many areas of a person's life are not aligned. Overweight and unhappy with your overall health? Take responsibility by getting the exercise and healthy eating you need to correct it. It is going to take a great effort but the payof…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 08:41 AM
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Sounds like a lazy response. Besides, please explain why it's a flawed concept for you personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 08:14 AM
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There's only one question that matters above all else. Are you happy? If not, then you do something about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 04:17 AM
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Men have less anxiety so they seem more stoic takes a look at PPD posts by men who frequent here often complaining about women ...Nope
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 01:24 AM
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Are we saying that human behaviour is genetic or learned or both? For example racism is not innate or genetic. It's a learned behaviour. Whereas neurodivergence is genetic but also environmental. Meanwhile Schizophrenia and ADHD are considered a genetic mental health disorder, and even then there has been 50 years of disputing the studies.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 05:04 AM
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I'm not a misogynist or sex starved
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 09:38 AM
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Well I'm just matching word for word what it's like to be called out like women often are by these guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 09:37 AM
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Now let's reverse this post. Men tend to say something along the lines of "I'm an alpha male. I'm a breadwinner", and "I'm a strong and dependable man". That's just being an adult. Work a job. Pay your own bills. Handle everyday hassles. Live in a place that you clean yourself. Prepare your own meals. There's nothing special about these things. It's bare minimum, and should not be touted as an accomplishment. What's the difference? Now consider how the majority of men in this sub are none of the…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 02:46 AM
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Of course. But everything is in flux. There's absolutely no point in learning a billion things about women without setting off on one's own journey to see how things play out in real life. What I see often on here are guys who do the theory but not the practical. It's analysis paralysis
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 02:55 PM
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Even if he believes in gnomes, so long as he isn't sabotaging his own world where he is angry and hates himself.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 02:53 PM
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If you don't know what happiness entails, should you be making statements about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 02:19 PM
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I was red pill before and I took some of the teachings and yes it worked. I learned not to be a doormat. I learned how to be a better man. But what I didn't do is to outright hate women as if they were my sworn enemy on this earth. That's what we're constantly trying to portray here. I didn't care one bit about whether women were hypergamous or solipsistic or AWALT. I got my shit together and got what I needed from the red pill and got out. The majority of these guys who call themselves red pill…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 02:18 PM
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I wish so much that more people would understand everything you just put.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 02:03 PM
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Tell me HOW it's insulting.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 02:00 PM
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Please show me where you felt insulted by my original comment. That's all I ask.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 10:21 AM
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This has been such a refreshing conversation on here. Thank you for opening my eyes to several things previously hidden to me. Wishing you all the best with everything. Take care of yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 10:13 AM
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I fully agree. As soon as I wrote that part that you've picked, I singled it out myself as being part of the problem. Who am I to make such a grandiose statement as if I'm better off than those suffering as if they are below me. Indeed it is a dichotomy. As a human being living on this earth I too have a set of emotions and my own beliefs and shortcomings. I'm no different. Where I come from in terms of my input is to always ask the simple question: "are you happy?" - and if the answer is no the…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 10:10 AM
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I'm doing you a favour. Unless you don't actually have any insult to point to...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 09:50 AM
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It's only recently that I've come to understand and acknowledge the feeling of injustice being such a force to be reckoned with in the neurodivergent community. I'm always willing to learn and I'm always happy to lay my ego to one side in order to take others' viewpoints. Yes I remember the paternity discussion and I learned something from that. I myself don't have kids so it was never in my knowledge base to actually talk about that subject full on. I can learn from others.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 09:44 AM
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My personal opinion is the following: we're on the internet. And as we know, anything goes on the internet. We have all walks of life that get online and they can do and say what they please from behind their anonymous usernames. How will we ever know if whether the people in the subs you mentioned are genuine? How can we ever filter and separate the genuine well meaning people from the trolls, the LARPers, and the downright evil? The answer is we can't. We go online primed with a particular vie…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 09:38 AM
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We CANNOT address it to them because we are not therapists nor psychologists in the field of neurodivergence who are qualified to understand their issues and know how to reach out to them. I've always thought to myself that we are probably doing more harm than good by engaging with them making them feel more invalidated as a result. It's why I mention often that these pills are cults which have honed their skills in attracting these individuals and know exactly how to indoctrinate them efficient…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 09:01 AM
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I don't believe in any pill. I take a suppository pill often to shit out any pointless ideology that won't serve me well. I just mentioned in another post how movements can be hijacked by extremists as well as agent provocateurs injected in to cause derailment of a well meaning movement. I also mentioned the importance of understanding the feeling of injustice. It is so much more intense in neurodivergent people than the average neurotypical population. I also mentioned the importance of knowing…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 08:53 AM
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Of course. I mention often that every movement out there have extremists. And unfortunately it's the extremists that shout the loudest and ruin as well as give a bad name to the original well meaning movement. Feminism in its original inception was simply a movement where well meaning women wanted to be heard and accepted. Before long, extremists joined the movement. Their stance took over the original movement and the media latched on. It's also important to be aware that agent provocateurs are…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 08:47 AM
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I mentioned elsewhere but for neurodivergent people the feeling of injustice is very real and hard hitting. The feeling is magnified far more for these individuals than for a neurotypical person. It's why they are not able to logically and reasonably process the feeling to come to a sound conclusion. Instead they overshoot the mark and end up feeling entitled to having a high value woman in society without realising or accepting the amount of work involved. Furthermore, if a person falls down th…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 08:38 AM
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Show me where the insult is and I'll engage with you to show you that I'm actually feeling despair on your behalf.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 08:28 AM
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What did you address exactly in your comment? Nothing but telling me that I'm wrong without saying why. Here, I'll engage you. CMV: Neurodivergent people feel a burning sense of injustice. For them, that feeling is a monster. It burns bright and they cannot handle the emotion surrounding injustice. Where it gets worse is when individuals like this fall down rabbit holes online where they are told that the world is a nightmarish place for people like him and that society has shunted them. They al…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 08:24 AM
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He's happy. You're not. Who's in the wrong camp here buddy?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 08:17 AM
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And you're black pilled. Do you not realise you could just choose to be a human being with an ideology that serves you rather than torment you?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 08:16 AM
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You sound desperate
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 08:15 AM
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Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 08:14 AM
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Why do you guys always have some excuse lined up? Go live life already.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 08:10 AM
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I've come to accept that the guys who are extreme on here with the misogyny are fully neurodivergent. I say this because for them, things are always one extreme or another. It's black or white. It's a zero sum game. It's never a nuanced output that makes you want to engage with them. Instead they say something totally skewed and everything becomes a cat and mouse game where you have to chase them for answers.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 01:12 AM
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Yea the mask always slips off every so often and the self aware wolf meme plays in my head. But before long, they readjust the mask and they're off again hard on the hamster wheel discussing the wall, AWALT, hypergamy and so on. Must be very tiring for these lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 01:04 AM
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Not sure most 'land whales' would enjoy fucking a degenerate who classes himself as 'subhuman' in the first place 🤷🏻
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 12:59 AM
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Well what I'm saying is don't spend your life online. If you have friends offline, you'll know that you could get to know friends of friends and things can go far where you meet people as you go out and mingle. You're not just cold approaching randoms. It's already assumed you know them as part of the circle you're in.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 12:13 AM
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Stop using shitty online apps as they are rigged. Go out into the real world. Or is that too difficult to talk to real women?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/23 11:51 PM
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Great post OP. You cannot help someone who is not ready to be helped. That is the primary directive. Consider for a moment; why there are these thousand and one barriers between him and a girlfriend. These barriers didn't just appear out of thin air. He made them. And meticulously so. From the porn addiction, to the outbursts of anger, to the thousand and one requirements a woman has to meet, to the poor social skills... these are, in many ways, defense mechanisms. Because after all, if it is al…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/23 11:16 PM
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Phat Phoebe will still see you as below her due to your attitude. See how this works?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/23 11:04 PM
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Isn't it so so telling how they act when it comes to internal facets of the mind? That tells you these guys are either fully brainwashed or they're neurodivergent and refuse to get help (if they are aware) - or both.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/23 11:03 PM
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He obviously does not. His choice of using Robin Williams in the first place is strawman
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/23 10:59 PM
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May I remind you that I'm not the one suffering and in pain. You are. I'm truly happy with life. That tells me I'm the one with the right belief systems and attitude while you seem like you've been hoodwinked.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/23 10:52 PM
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Because 'ugly' is a mindset. It's not just a physical manifestation. It goes way deeper. There are 'ugly' guys who have some of the best personalities and they excel well in life. It's an attitude thing. I'm average at best and I've done damn well for my league. It's all about your belief system.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/23 10:50 PM
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Say what? Are you telling me the teachings of the red pill which advocates the dark arts of psychology is normal and acceptable? lol. Do people here have any self awareness?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/23 10:48 PM
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So what you're saying is: if a 6' strong jawed, wealthy, high status Chad had a choice between a 5'3 average woman with no wealth or status vs an Instagram model who is 10/10, 5'8, has status and wealth, Chad would choose the 5'3 average woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/23 10:46 PM
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Honestly speaking, this sounds like self flagellating made up rules as we go along so that all avenues feel like they are closed allowing the person to blame their issues onto others rather than take responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/23 10:44 PM
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So a 6' guy with wealth and status and looks is going to go for an 'average' 5'2 woman who doesn't have wealth or status? Please answer this one so I can understand your mindset.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/23 01:02 PM
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So many extremes in your comment. Where do I even start. You can definitely find normal 5'3 women. Problem is, when you do, you'll label her as someone who uses hypergamy to rule yourself out of being able to get with her. That's a self inflicted wound. Besides, as per your input, the inverse is also true. While she may be obese or on hard drugs or whatever, the 5'3 guy isn't faring off better. As an example, he's addicted to hating on women due to being part of online communities, he's got neur…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/23 11:56 AM
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Sorry I don't understand. What is this comment in relation to?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/23 11:51 AM
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Been married to a wonderful loving wife for 10 years. Isn't that what you guys sorely desire? I guess I'm delusional eh? I was only able to see her and find her once I accepted myself and was at peace with myself. Look at how vehemently you instantly denied a different viewpoint. Like I said, one day you'll have your epiphany moment. I'm not here to change your mind. That's not my job.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/23 08:17 AM
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Actually as an ex red piller I live by those words. It's the uninitiated that choose to refuse to look at self acceptance. Self love and self acceptance are the greatest cheat codes on earth. I'm not going to preach it as it's a self fulfilling prophecy. One day, every human being will realise this. It's an epiphany moment. For some it happens early on, for others it happens when they are on their death bed. That's just how it goes.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/23 07:50 AM
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Well of course which is why I asked in another post what the end game is when someone says status, and wealth levels. We're all working and we all already have status. But no one can define it with nuance. What is considered a quantifiable level for status and wealth? Besides, what does she bring to the table? Just looks?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/23 07:47 AM
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You need a little bit of everything. Relying only on the dark arts will end a person up in a bad place later on where only toxicity will breed and he will only find women who are just as toxic as him or worse. He will suffer because his internal world will have been neglected. No happiness can be found. Life's way too short to spend it chasing sex but who am I to judge.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/23 07:44 AM
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Last time we spoke you got so triggered about critical thinking and logic. It was a sad sight for all to see. And yet here you are again all angry. Bit of a rhetorical question but do you have the ability to self reflect much? You even went as far as to link me to a site on what zaddy meant. That was utter cringe. I can't take you seriously bud. Have a good one.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/23 07:30 AM
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Indeed hence why I find it interesting while also feeling despair that these guys take what they hear about height as gospel
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/23 07:26 AM
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Neurodivergence in men is highly under reported due to the difference in nature between men and women. Women talk about personal issues more from the beginning. Us guys don't. When I say taking responsibility I'm talking about official channels like health services that help those on the spectrum. NOT going down some rabbit hole online and ending up in a dark place of suffering even more. This is far too prevalent.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/23 07:14 AM
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Oh it's you Mr. Zaddy. I remember our wonderful conversations. Not sure I can take anything you say at face value at all after our previous conversations. They were fucking toxic. I'm pressing X for doubt on your height considering our previous conversations. Why would it make you gay to want a woman your own height? Sounds like such immature shit to say whilst being derogatory to homosexuals. Good start there buddy. Plus riddle me this - if the tall guy had a child with the short 5'1 woman, wou…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/23 07:02 AM
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The issue is we don't know how often they tried or who they tried with. If I tried twice in my whole life and then accepted that it's no use, then that's a me issue. If I tried 1000 times and failed every one of those interactions, one of 2 outcomes can occur. I could either believe that it's a me issue where I have to switch up my interaction and attitude/personality or I can submit to failure and never try again. Now consider what might happen if I have a pre-existing belief that I'm ugly or t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/23 06:52 AM
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These talking points never come up on this sub. I constantly try talking about neurodivergence and I'm instantly met with aggression and denial. When a person takes responsibility for their actions, all sorts of doors open. If instead they sit and feel frustrated and direct their hate onto others, well, we can see where that takes him.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/23 06:44 AM
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No one seems to be able to answer why a taller man would settle for a shorter girl. Why would a 6'2 guy want to get with a 5'3 woman? Surely he wants a woman on his level. This whole height nonesense is an indoctrination. It comes part and parcel of the pill that these guys subscribe to. First it started off that if you are 5'2 then "it's over" - only recently I've been reading how 5'7 or below is seen as "it's over" - making rules up as they go along. It's just young neurodivergent men going ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/23 06:41 AM
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Beggars can't be choosers. At least they should get their n count up and gain experience and confidence with these supposed 2's and 3's. They can't even do that. And while we're at it, I fucking hate this toxic arbitrary number system that totally dehumanises people. It shows a total lack of empathy and yet every single thread in every post is an outpouring of 'woe is me' diatribe by the same people who dehumanise others. Fucking hypocrites.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/23 06:30 AM
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Heh "the social norms of beauty" - now it's your turn to describe to me what the social norms are. OP even mentioned the possibility of how autism can wreak havoc on those who could have neurodivergent issues where they can't read social cues. But it always gets overlooked. It's not all about looks. Guys here need to look into their blind spots for anything they might have missed.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/23 06:27 AM
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Explain please
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/23 06:10 AM
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My sentence still applies to them. Aren't these men creating a negative self fulfilling prophecy where they believe that they are ugly and so they inadvertently set themselves up for failure?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/23 06:08 AM
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Wait. Did he want a 6' model or something? Plus are you telling me that all 5'1 women are only going to accept 6'+ guys? How does that work? Are all women that shallow? Presses X for doubt
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/23 05:57 AM
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Do men here ever consider that they might have neurodivergent issues like autism or Asperger's? They can play havoc with his ability to just talk on the phone let alone face to face. It causes an outpouring of anxiety even at the thought of talking to someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/23 05:51 AM
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Why are you so adamant that you're ugly? Isn't this a you issue? Besides, just how ugly are you? Quasimodo level? You folks carry all the wrong attitudes and sit there playing victim. I find it interesting that guys here are doing all this xxx-maxxing to qualify themselves to women because these men believe they're not good enough whilst at the same time they put women under their foot in the hierarchy and equality department. That's some next level mental gymnastics.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/23 05:47 AM
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Ok then we can talk. Be happy that you were born a man. The greatest thing to have happened in your life is that you were born a man. Those are sayings uttered by philosophers of old. And they're spot on. The trouble you are experiencing isn't with women. It's with the culture of the West. Go to any other part of the world and you'll be revered. By virtue of being a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 11:25 PM
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Is it my problem that you are currently choosing to be angry? What does it achieve?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 11:19 PM
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Damn. That's a tough spot to be in. Do you have any options like babysitters? I'm guessing they're past the age of being babysat. Things change though. Everything is a phase. Your child will grow up where different options open up for a social life.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 11:18 PM
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Confidence in your own being. Accepting who you are. Being at peace with yourself. You have to accept yourself just the way you are before you can even start to accept others. See you might have all the correct personality traits but you might end up talking to an asshole of a woman. If that happens you next her. No 2 women are the same, same as men. Personality traits are separated between positive and negative. You might have heard of archetypes. They are the overarching theme to the accumulat…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 11:13 PM
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Heh I knew that would throw you off. You won't get it until you get it one day.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 11:03 PM
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So when we talk in terms of wealth status and looks, what does a satisfactory level look like to you? Like what car would you need to drive to show that you have status and wealth? How much money would you need? How good looking must you be? When is it good enough? Besides these 3 traits are arbitrary and don't have limits. Someone might ask you why you are trying so hard to qualify yourself to women. Shouldn't they be qualifying themselves to you? In the midst of all this someone might ask you …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 11:01 PM
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Well who are you targeting women-wise?? Ana De Armas?? You place too much emphasis on looks. If anything looks will make up no more than 20% of the full package. Not 80%. If you feel the need to have wealth, status, and looks to woo a woman, then she better be on your level. If she is some young woman who hasn't even started in life, is inexperienced and lacks knowledge, while having just good looks as her main selling point as often desired here, it says a hell of a lot about you than anything.…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 09:54 PM
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Because you've been made to believe that looks, wealth and status are what gets you women. I don't. Find a woman who qualifies you on personality. That there is a real woman and not some airhead shallow idiot.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 09:38 PM
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If a woman qualifies you on looks she isn't the full package. So try again with a decent woman. Just by virtue of being a man you qualify. But I'll wait for your next rebuttal.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 09:34 PM
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Online dating is fucked. Try offline dating. Do you have the correct personality to start a decent conversation with women?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 09:32 PM
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This comment👆🏻 And take a good look at every word guys. They are negative character traits. Nothing to do with looks or status or wealth. It's all about personality. Waits for the fun rebuttals
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 06:47 PM
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Blasphemy!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 06:39 PM
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Humanity's greatest flaw is in learning only when it's too late. No matter how well or often a person is warned. Take an alcoholic. They have to hit rock bottom before having their epiphany moment. Even then, they may choose to remain in their pit of despair or decide to climb out. The same goes for beliefs that are detrimental to a person whether through getting brainwashed or whether actively choosing a belief that the person thinks might benefit them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 03:04 PM
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It's not a zero sum game. We're all suffering in different ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 02:48 PM
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Because not all women are the same
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 10:09 AM
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Ever heard of getting old and having all sorts of ailments? Will you have anyone by your side when that happens?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 08:39 AM
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Crying doesn't mean you're weak. You are a human being and crying is healthy. It takes courage to show emotion. You don't need to win a boxing match. That's a toxic belief. Negative emotions require healthy ways of being let go of such as understanding what emotions are trying to catch our attention underneath that feeling of anger or depression. Not in a way that causes more toxicity.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/23 09:37 PM
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I wish men would check their mental health issues more often instead of neglecting that side of themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 06:07 PM
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Wonder why it's triggering them... Checks certain forums - oh yea that's why...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 06:05 PM
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Go be a criminal then. Create a bastardised child. And then go ahead and blame single mothers. Which is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 05:41 PM
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It was a minus number. To show how silly it all is
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 05:39 PM
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Red pill men in here: "I'll only accept -1 (minus one) body count - best offer"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 01:34 PM
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Yea you're basically showing that it's water off a duck's back. You approached her, it didn't work out, no biggie. You move on instead of throwing a tantrum because you know your worth and that you were choosing her to share your value with but she didn't see it. No biggie.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 01:15 PM
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Self loathing is a monster to overcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 12:23 AM
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You're searching in the dark if you have to make that assumption while calling yourself red pilled. As a result it says a lot about the red pill don't you think?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 12:22 AM
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Isn't it funny how often the top comment are from non pilled individuals who ask logical and nuanced questions that makes everyone go "hmmm..." Meanwhile the red pill responses seem to often lack critical thinking, logic, and are mostly filled with right wing tropes, buzzwords, misogyny, and makes you lose a few braincells reading them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 12:18 AM
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Officer, this post right here 👆🏻
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 12:10 AM
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You seem to have got angry pretty quickly over trivial things. This is a red flag.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 12:08 AM
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Without the hatred is what I'm trying to point out. Must there be hatred?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 05:20 PM
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Andrew Tate Anal Taint FTFY
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 10:05 AM
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Control makes sense when all red pillers adhere to the dark arts of psychology. They will gaslight the woman, they will manipulate her until she is a shell of her former self. This causes great damage to her. There are plenty of posts in r/exredpill where women tell their horror stories of having been under the control of a guy who practiced red pill on her. This is why these men seek young women in order to control her before she figures out the world for herself and gains experience. They want…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 09:24 AM
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The first mistake red pillers make is to apply this shitty dehumanising arbitrary number system to a human being. Here, I'll label you a 3/10 purely because you lack empathy and understanding of humanity.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 08:24 AM
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Abundance mentality is a tenet of the red pill meaning that you don't put all your eggs into one basket over one woman and you act like you don't care if you lose her. That's the loose definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 08:21 AM
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I actually did exactly that but the mods took the post down despite how progressive everything was. One of the mods even took part before shutting it down with some daft reason given. Here's the post if you care to read.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 12:42 AM
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Oh hey nice to meet you again. Now bow down before me! Does my intellect make you feel insecure?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 12:31 AM
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Victim complex in its purest form. All the while totally unaware of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 12:08 AM
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There's not enough talk about mental health amongst men. And hopefully somewhere in the future men will realise the importance of mental well-being and will be able to openly speak about it. Toxic masculinity is all the rage at the moment it seems. Every grifter online is promoting it and young naive men are eating it up without realising how far back it's setting them. There's a whole lot of problems on both sides of the fence. Men need to concentrate on their own issues but instead they seem t…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 12:06 AM
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Thanks for counting. Here's an assignment for you. See if you can figure out if you have been brainwashed against your own best interests in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 11:55 PM
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I didn't realise I was coming across as a feminist. I'll wear that accolade with pride. Besides, are feminism talking points bad? To who? And why? And how? If anything feminism diminished hypergamy. It allowed for equality to exist. You guys should be thanking feminism. But a lot of brainwashed right wing nuts took this as an attack on their freedoms and turned up the sexism and misogyny dial to 11 not realising they ruined their own chances of happiness.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 11:54 PM
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You assumed I was female? You really think linking me to a YouTube video that talks about height, the pills and tiktok is what I should take seriously? There's your damn problem. Go live in the real world. Online is a fucked up place that can ruin even the most brilliant of minds. If you want to be happy, stop demonising all women. There are some amazing, beautiful loving women out there. You won't find them online. Ever. Then there are absolute utter cunts in this world. Those are the ones that…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 11:46 PM
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You can look at my profile to see whether I bully or whether I really do go out of my way to be helpful and logical. On this occasion you can call me a bully. We all have limits.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 11:04 PM
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Women are not treating anyone as 'subhuman' - a lot of these guys have neurodivergent issues that they either don't realise or refuse to fix. On top of which they fell down a rabbit hole and got brainwashed to an even worse place mentally. So whose fault is that? Women's?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 11:00 PM
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You seen his profile? Plus calling all women sluts and being misogynistic is ok I guess?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 10:58 PM
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I think men actually enjoy/laugh when top tier men run through these women. I guess you could say men are angry at the fact she is not being a whore for him, not at Chad for being Chad. Passive aggressive much?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 10:30 PM
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If women were better judges of character and more selective it wouldn't be a problem. They are once they've been on their journey. A rights of passage. You're just mad that their ride didn't include you so you slut shame them. Why be angry at other men? Men aren't the gatekeepers of sex. Funny how red pillers revere "Chad" even though he takes all the girls from the red pillers. (He doesn't exist, this is all an indoctrination) Men propose, women dispose. Women are at fault for becoming sluts. S…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 10:11 PM
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Seriously, fuck all the pills. Life is so much more than this pill nonesense. And life is so fucking short. I was a red piller for several years. I talk about it all the time. You'll have more issues as a result of the red pill than without it. You're supposed to take certain teachings and then go off into the real world and put your new learnings to the test. And within no time you'll see just how limited your understanding actually is. Life's nuances and curve balls will hit you in ways you di…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 09:27 PM
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I wouldn't be friends with someone like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 05:56 PM
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These guys want a woman who has no bite or grit, who accepts the man's bigotry, misogyny and all other shit traits. And as if that wasn't enough, they want her to be high value lol After all, the red pill told them so.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 05:46 PM
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Would you get milked if you can't get a woman in the first place?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 04:36 PM
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I used to think like this at one time where everything was about looks, status, wealth etc. Then I finally plucked up the courage and went out into the real world and my beliefs were shattered. Life happened. The red pill has some good teachings, but some people are way too rigid and take everything at face value that leaves no room for nuance or flexibility, or reasoning. Some people have bags of wealth not in the sense of money or looks but as a personality. But you guys slate that instantly a…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 04:29 PM
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So now every cashier is actually a stripper? Wot?🤷🏻
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 04:21 PM
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If the men and women have self esteem, self respect, modesty and humility, as well as abundance mentality, they won't have as hard a time with rejection. Thought this stuff was a no brainer considering they are the tenets of the red pill? Especially abundance mentality.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 03:31 PM
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No controversy. As long as there's no toxicity from the person using them. I say that because I actually spoke to someone using them recently and he was the one that brought attention to them out of the blue and then proceeded to think I was mocking him. The whole situation was quite incendiary.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 08:52 PM
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It's disheartening. The reason given by the mod makes no sense. Do they think I'm a woman? Plus the mod who deleted it commented and was top comment which was part of the chain we were commenting back and forth in. Almost as if they don't want progressive posts in this sub...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 04:36 PM
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Yea that's a fair take. More power to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 04:20 PM
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I'm normal too and don't ascribe to the terminology. I felt I had to use it to get people talking. Mods deleted the post for some daft reason even though it seemed very helpful to a lot of people as there was very little toxicity to normal
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 04:20 PM
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You seem intelligent in knowing your own situation. Do you feel you might have created your own analysis paralysis by accident? How would you change this if you could?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 03:14 PM
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So like me in the past, you play the safe card for fear of getting hurt. I can relate. It's a tale as old as time. Have you considered changing it up? For a while I practiced flirting on what I perceived as ugly girls and it was evident that I could do what I didn't previously believe I could. Though for the longest time trying to do the same with attractive women was totally out of bounds in my mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 03:13 PM
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Yea this. I've tried to take a totally different approach to my posts as usually I get frustrated for the guys who seem so stuck and full of rage so felt it necessary to turn it around into a question and answer and it's worked out far better instead of alienating those already suffering. As ever, my go-to talking point is the sheer importance of mental health and its ramifications when issues go undiagnosed.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 03:09 PM
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Yes I get that. What I'm asking is if you see women as the enemy that you must get one over on.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 03:05 PM
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I've never agreed with hypergamy even when I was in the red pill. All I had to do was see couples in the real world to know that it was some crux that allowed certain guys to hide their inadequacies behind instead of taking responsibility for bettering themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 02:59 PM
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You mention confidence and how it has evaded you. Do you feel this is down to not having given your inner frame as much thought and attention as your outwardly physical traits up to now? Confidence and internal character traits were such an alien concept to me for the longest time until I finally got it. It was a total eureka moment.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 02:52 PM
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If I may ask, how's your self esteem? You mention that girls feel uncomfortable. Is there a possibility that you might be giving off the wrong vibe? I've noticed in the past when I've been too deep in my own thoughts about myself, I've given off the wrong vibe compared to when I was jovial and showing confidence and self contentment. Not saying this applies to you, but just a curiosity.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 02:48 PM
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I think you're on a good positive path to finding what you're after. I noticed in the sub how a lot of men solely concentrate on the physical aspects but tend to neglect mental health issues, which I believe is actually far more important to a man's overall well-being. All the best to you :)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 02:45 PM
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Interesting. Does that only involve the good aspects such as self improvement or does it also involve the misogyny and sexism? Genuinely curious here.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 02:42 PM
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Yea so justice is a very interesting area to me. Justice is conceptually difficult to decipher as it links to ethics and morals, which again, are concepts since they speak about feelings. What I'm interested in knowing is: what if a person could be tricked into believing something is an injustice where there is actually no injustice? Especially if they have neurodivergent issues. For example: if I was tricked into believing that I'm ugly (a falsehood) and then being told that it's x/y/z's fault,…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 02:39 PM
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We're not being derogatory so it's not an issue. My question is what if you've been made to believe a false truth? Like what if your world view has been changed to work against your best interests? How would you even know to begin with?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 02:33 PM
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What if you aren't the issue. What if some girls are brainwashed to look for a particular type that actually goes against their best interests, and they find out much later that they've been sold a lie, meanwhile you were the catch all along?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 02:30 PM
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Indeed you were I read it too fast trying to respond to everyone. Apologies. So how's your situation currently. So you still try your luck?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 02:29 PM
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💪🏼 more power to you! If you could give advice to the young men here, would you say it's down to attitude and perseverance?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 02:28 PM
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Yes it was quite abstract lol. I guess what I'm asking is whether you are aware of any negative beliefs you have about yourself that hold you back vs things that you like about yourself that give you leverage.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 02:27 PM
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The fact that you didn't get stuck in a rut due to the height issue is a testament that there are so many ways a guy can go after what he wants. I just wonder how many guys here know this and want to do something about it instead of just playing blame at the feet of women. Life truly is for living so kudos to you for getting on with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 02:25 PM
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Hmm not sure tinder is real life if I'm honest. It's full of bots, and algorithms that would make even the most hopeful of people feel hopeless. What's your take on dating in the real world where no online app is used?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 02:23 PM
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That's an interesting take. I'm a little puzzled:- are all short girls that are the same height as yourself; do they only want to go for guys with greater height? Surely taller guys only want to be with girls their own height? Why would a tall guy go for a short girl? It wouldn't benefit him right?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 02:21 PM
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Very sorry that happened to you and more power to you for keeping hope. As they say, things do work out when you least expect them. If I may ask, how's your mental health in all of this?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 02:17 PM
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I'm not into anime myself but I know plenty of girls who would love to know guys into the same thing as them. What demographic are you trying to socialise with? Like if you are into anime, are you trying to talk to some high society girl who if anything, looks down on anyone. I was always under the assumption that we date within our ranks.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 02:15 PM
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But how does that make you feel? Like if I was in the same situation (which I was at one point) I'd try to do something about it. At one point I asked myself if I was happy and sure enough the answer was a big no so I decided to do something about it. Do you believe change is possible?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 02:13 PM
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Would you say therapy could help you alleviate some of the issues you're having? I used to have a major issue with my self image until I had CBT where I understood that I was talking to myself all wrong. So maybe something worth looking into?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 02:11 PM
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How did the black pill help if the core tenet of the black pill is nihilism where nothing matters, and nothing has any meaning? Does this free you from the shackles of society and its pressures where you're content?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 02:10 PM
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What if black women have been made to believe something about looks that is unhealthy to them aka they have been brainwashed to believe something toxic, therefore it's no fault of yours?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 02:07 PM
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I think mental health is vital. A serial killer wouldn't be a serial killer if his mental health was addressed beforehand right?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 02:06 PM
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Would therapy be the answer?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 02:05 PM
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What if it's in your head? How do you know that you're truly ugly? Like therapy really helped me turn a corner. Maybe it'll help you too?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 02:05 PM
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Maybe the girls wore high heels! lol. I understand that height can be a real major issue for us guys. I just wonder how often a guy can get way too bogged down by it and become stuck rather than explore other avenues like you did without the resentment towards others whether it be men or women. What I meant by confirmation bias is that we all have certain belief systems installed as we experience life and take on what society tells us. So I have a big nose and it plagued my youth where I went in…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 02:04 PM
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I've seen guys who I consider to be good looking, however due to neurodivergent issues, their social skills were totally lacking and understandably they were having a very hard time connecting. (Not saying you have issues as such) Makes me wonder how often guys may have undiagnosed issues that cause them further issues than if they had been diagnosed.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 01:57 PM
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But wait. I'm married. And I think I'm fugly. Or is it all in my head?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 01:39 PM
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Would you also consider working on your mental well-being? I was always under the assumption that physical and mental are the Ying and Yang of a healthy self.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 01:38 PM
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How are you doing now?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 01:37 PM
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How do you feel about yourself? Like are you truly your own best friend or enemy?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 01:36 PM
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Ah ok so for you, height is the issue? Would you say that there's a possibility of confirmation bias playing a part in your outlook? For example if things actually got worse when you compared yourself, did you possibly already have a base belief where you felt shorter than your friend?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 01:36 PM
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Does that mean that you are therefore ugly for life?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 01:26 PM
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If you approached them and succeeded, would that then mean that you are therefore not ugly?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 01:21 PM
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So what you're saying is unlike sometimes where men get caught up about looks, you didn't wallow in a down and out state and recognised that you had many other avenues in the real world that enhanced your worth to yourself as well as others? Sounds like a healthy way of concentrating on things that you could change rather than things that you couldn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 01:19 PM
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Could you elaborate a little? Not sure how you realising that you're ugly is related to women not approaching you first. Are you saying you've seen women approach good looking guys, just not you?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 01:13 PM
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If you could change the belief around that, would you? What if you aren't ugly but that it's rather what you were told, which stuck with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 01:10 PM
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You and me both then! (Minus having kids) - would you say that as you've gained experience, you've realised that there are far more important factors to life than just looks? Like your family and loved ones as well as personality (which I deliberately left out of my OP for obvious reasons in here)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 01:07 PM
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I'm sorry that happened to you. Do you believe them? Like when you look in the mirror, do you agree with what you were told or do you think nah, I'm fine as I am.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 01:05 PM
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Are you in a happy place where you are content without holding resentment for anyone or anything?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 01:01 PM
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Out of interest, how do you treat yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 12:58 PM
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They just won't hear it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 11:41 AM
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Interesting. Why are leftist men weak?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 06:57 AM
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I understood what you meant, it's just that I didn't agree with the roundabout whataboutism way you went about it. Any form of extremism is bad news for society. I was arguing my point the other day about radicalisation and cults, pointing to how red pill and black pill are cults that take in unsuspecting young minds. Others vehemently disagreed, which they were entitled in doing so. I used terrorism as an example where young Muslim men are recruited and radicalised to believe that those in the …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 06:18 AM
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Ah cool. So it's all ok then? Let's all carry on and be happy that it's a low level of terrorism everybody. It's ok if they wish r*pe daily on women in their forums. Jeezus some of the mental gymnastics here is bewildering.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 05:29 AM
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That's very specific. Are you sure you know what a neckbeard is? I'd have expected to be called a SJW based on my profile.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 05:24 AM
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No cult across history has ever been good for humankind. Red pill is just another cult that has hoodwinked the vulnerable who are desperate in seeking out meanings for their failures instead of the ability to think logically and critically.
/r/ExRedPill21/02/23 11:52 PM
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If a person lacks self respect, or has low self esteem, or doesn't love himself, or is not content in his own skin, he will seek this validation externally. Besides, if a person doesn't have the pointers I mentioned above, it means he has the opposite. Self loathing, internal chaos, total disrespect for the self, a fragile ego, toxic masculinity, and so on. Along comes a doctrine like the red pill that tells the man that if he gets all the sex through the teachings of the red pill, then he is to…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 11:39 PM
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Ah yes. The daily hypergamy post without fail.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 11:28 PM
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Have always liked your comments. This community needs more people like you. Kudos to you 💪🏼
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 11:26 PM
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I'm pointing out that you associating "right wingers" with "incels" doesn't actually make them incels. That's cool and all. Just as you believe in hypergamy and the wall, I believe in my views. Problem? You can mislabel and name-call all you want though if it comforts you, doesn't make it true. So long as right winger fertility rates are demolishing leftoids (and they are) you don't have a leg to stand on. Leftoids? I could play buzzword bingo for days from your right wing trope terminology. Mus…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 10:29 PM
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Yea sorry I didn't want to derail your post but it got me thinking what it means to be 'right' leaning - the extreme of all being Nazism.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 10:16 PM
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Beats me Thought you might have the data or any link to back up your original claim. Never mind. it does blow a gigantic ass hole in you (at the behest of the regime and your thought leaders) trying to associate "incels" with "right wing extremists." Bit harsh and full of assumption there don't you think? My thought leaders? Care to explain? Are you defending incels? That's indefensible. Just one more link out of many as to why incels are extremists
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 10:13 PM
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Are they "high value"?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 10:03 PM
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Personally speaking, up to 15 years of online propaganda, algorithms, rabbit holes, and influencers says otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 10:03 PM
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Only to the naive young women who have been made to believe this trope. Conversely it's why the men here seek out the young women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 09:58 PM
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Not sure if any woman would want to be with someone who undermines her using the dark arts. It's a pretty well documented fact that sexist ideologies attract people who exhibit dark triad traits and encourage those traits in people who would otherwise not exhibit them. It's a main reason that the FBI and Secret Service are studying possible violence from radicalized incels as a genuine domestic terrorist threat. When you dehumanize an entire group of people as the red pill does to women, it lead…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 09:50 PM
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I posted this elsewhere recently. It's a pretty well documented fact that sexist ideologies attract people who exhibit dark triad traits and encourage those traits in people who would otherwise not exhibit them. It's a main reason that the FBI and Secret Service are studying possible violence from radicalized incels as a genuine domestic terrorist threat. When you dehumanize an entire group of people as the red pill does to women, it leads to violence against that group of people. This is a clas…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 09:48 PM
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A lot of red pill men here are neurodivergent, which has not been diagnosed. By the time they hit their late 30's, they will be in a quagmire of unresolved issues, which will be debilitating. For those who are neurotypical, their masculine toxicity will always erupt to the surface due to the many issues that weren't addressed. Plus life can humble us in a heartbeat, so there's that. Good luck to these guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 06:49 PM
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Here we see another young mind who has never been in love.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 12:39 PM
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You just showed me your insecurity on full display. The reason you talk about online dating is because YOU rejected yourself thinking you aren't conventionally good looking to be able to walk up to women in the real world. Go ahead tell me I'm wrong. Wanna know why? Because you belong to a cult that has made you believe that you aren't good looking. Looks aren't everything. Your anger speaks volumes.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 12:31 PM
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I like him as a person and he has amazing dick prowess. 😂 That's going to fuck up a few red pill men's day or week here plus they can't respond as it'll give away the fact that they have small peepees
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 05:31 PM
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Now I feel bad that I'm arguing with a youngster. Sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 02:17 PM
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Oh yes she's getting railed by 'Tyrone' or whatever name you give to him. She's actually sitting next to me laughing at the messages I show her. Problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 02:12 PM
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So why are you here? Go get your dick wet.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 02:03 PM
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lol you love using flagellation don't you. Add some fellation too while you're at it. If you know what women want, what's stopping you? Be the asshole That is correct Now read the remainder of my original sentence on why being the asshole doesn't work. It keeps you low value.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 01:43 PM
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With the mind of a 12 year old lol
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 11:58 AM
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Wait so you want a high value woman while being garbage yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 11:40 AM
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So what do you want? If you know what women want, what's stopping you? Be the asshole. Besides, those women are not high value. They're broken. Just like the men that see those women as high value.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 10:59 AM
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Men aren’t scared. They’re depressed. FINALLY. Thank you. Now look at the very top comment by me where I keep mentioning the mental health epidemic that has plagued men. What has been done about it? Have these men seeked therapy? Seems like the answer is no and instead they've gone down the wrong path of hating on women for their problems. The average woman has no idea the isolation and pain men are expected to suffer through for relationships. I think you'll find women do know since they go thr…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 10:35 AM
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Part of feminism is cultish. It started off as a positive movement but then the loudest extreme minority took over and gave the whole movement a bad name. Look at Antifa. Started off with good intentions and took a life of its own. Look at inceldom. Need I mention how they have carried out terrorist attacks? And I didn't say red pillers are terrorists. I'm saying it's a cult where a lost person is taken in and have their minds altered against their best interests to hate on women, which ironical…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 09:47 AM
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Exactly. The woman that don't take responsibility are not in my periphery or level. What's not to understand about this? It's interesting that certain positive concepts are totally alien to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 09:43 AM
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Are you saying that you're shallow? I thought you guys wanted "high value" women. Those women are NOT high value. You are merely walking someone else's path
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 09:28 AM
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You're part of a cult. You'll realise this one day. But doesn't seem like it's today.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 09:18 AM
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Did you put yourself down here? Who was this aimed at?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 09:11 AM
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Because they refuse to look within and fix their attitudes and behaviours
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 09:09 AM
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Well that's great. Are you content now? Where does it end?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 08:48 AM
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I don't care about women. Let them fix their own issues. If I fix my issues, I'll rise above every single women who won't match my ideals. I'll instead be seeing women who match my new set of positive character traits. It will become a positive self fulfilling prophecy where I'll begin to see everyone on my level. It's utterly futile to talk about women's issues. It means the guy isn't taking responsibility for his own shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 08:42 AM
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Fix what's within. But guys won't even know where to start. Plus many are afraid to look within. Either that or it's too painful. So then they do everything possible to change the external facets to hide what's within. And so it gives birth to toxic masculinity and the likes.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 08:39 AM
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Ever seen young Muslim men who get radicalised against their best interests by those who instill within them the idea that those in the West deserve pain and suffering aka acts of terrorism? If you agree on the above scenario that plays out so often how is it any different to the way in which the several pills make young men believe that women are the enemy? It's basically the tenet of the right wing pipeline. Very cultish rhetorics don't you think?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 08:38 AM
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Thank you. I can work with this. Yes, red pill does have good talking points that can open the eyes of those who were previously unaware. As an ex red piller I too took away things that helped me. But it soon dawned on me that the red pill doesn't give advice on the internal turmoil that every man goes through. At no point does it address how a man should fix himself from within. Instead all the things it teaches are external surface level fluff. Plus at all times it felt like I was taking on so…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 08:33 AM
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And who did I insult? Whose feelings did I hurt? As an ex red piller, I'm constantly trying to create talking points about the intricacies of what it means to be happy and to find a happy medium. But the folks here just bat away any advice given. When someone speaks truth to the young men here who are suffering, they get personally attacked. And yet at the same time, these young men continue to attack women without ever realising the double standards. Can't have your cake and eat it too ya know?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 07:59 AM
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Looks and height were merely observations in the red pill. This new gen of guys who have made it center stage belong to the other pill that shall not be named here. They have come along pretending to be red pill. If the men from that community have actually read the red pill tenets, they'll realise that 'inner game' is incredibly important. But don't let me stop you from continuing to be in pain for something you can't fully control in the looks department compared to what you can control inside…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 07:54 AM
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If all I'm seeing time and again in this forum is men who are misogynists towards women with all the derogatory remarks who also refuse advice, then guess what you're all painting a picture for the rest of us. I never said I was right. I was merely giving an opinion. It's you who took what I said and let it affect you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 07:51 AM
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It would be great if the advice was to live a prosperous life of fulfilment and contentment with tips on how to be a real man instead of using the dark arts to find ways to manipulate naive unsuspecting minds. That tells me that the kind of men who seek to use the dark arts are broken Now before you choose to personally attack me, please try to discuss and rebut against what I've written. Mention why what I've said is incorrect so I can understand your point of view. Attack the subject. Not the …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 01:13 AM
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I call it a cult because every guy who follows it speaks and acts the same way. Like as if they are clones that cannot deviate away from the prime directive.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 12:31 AM
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Sex isn't the end game you guys think it is. And if you're so desperate, just have sex already. I call bullshit to every "but hypergamy" this and "but the wall" that post. Most red pill men here are scared and live in fear of getting hurt so they end up stuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 12:26 AM
3

I just talked to you about confirmation bias and here you are linking to a meme with your anecdotal view - thereby fulfilling your confirmation bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/23 11:22 PM
3

They're asking you if you meant all women that currently exist on this earth. Well do you?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/23 11:11 PM
2

Seems like you do what it takes to find facts to fulfill your confirmation bias in order to place blame at the feet of women while feeling justified in your victimhood.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/23 10:35 PM
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Thank you for this. Brilliantly put. These young men are in pain and suffering, and I hate seeing this play out. If only they could see that they are being taken for a ride. If they had a shred of critical thinking, they'd see that they are part of a cult. But that's not possible. As the saying goes, you cannot reason someone out of a position that they never reasoned themselves into.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/23 10:28 PM
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Facemaxxing, gymmaxxing... All these words make me cringe. And I'm cringing for using the word cringe... In posts like these, at no point are mental health matters mentioned. At no point are inner frame factors mentioned. Confidence, modesty, humility, self esteem, self respect, and many other positive character traits are never mentioned. If you want a "high quality" woman (whatever that means) then fix the inner mind. A person who looks the part on the outside is still hollow due to not having…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/23 08:05 PM
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Well who are they?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/23 06:36 PM
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Women are heavily incentivized to be in a relationship at all times. Ummm...No? Says who? Which women? Under what context? When a woman is single she is giving up free money, since men are the ones who pay for dates (or are expected to). Not all women. How many times must we talk about the issue with labelling all women? There are women who understand the whole song and dance of dating. Then there are those who rinse a man because those women are assholes. Then there are those who are unaware of…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/23 06:25 PM
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This is very low effort. Who were those 2 clowns? Does their opinion count for everyone's?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/23 06:14 PM
3

Nope. Love is.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/23 12:24 AM
3

Do you know what a cult is? If so, please describe it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/23 12:16 AM
1

Do you even know that your emotions have been bought?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 11:16 PM
1

You're hurting. That much is true.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 11:15 PM
2

So you're still black pilled then
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/23 10:13 PM
3

Your profile says otherwise. https://www.reddit.com/r/AllPillDebate/comments/10nibhd/the_difference_a_single_chromosome_makes/j68uysb/ This you? It's pointless speaking to someone who is not even being honest as a starter.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/23 09:56 PM
-1

So what you're saying is that as part of the black pill community, if you aren't good looking, then it's over? If so, why haven't you given up?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/23 09:17 PM
11

Competence, respect, and love are alien concepts in this forum.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/23 05:02 PM
1

Well it got a laugh out of me. Made me wonder what kind of job he'd get in the future.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/23 03:40 PM
1

He had that frizzy mop top going on. An average face but looks are subjective to me so I'm not one to ask about what constitutes being a 'Chad' vs a '5/10' or whatever. I don't ascribe to these standards really. I'm in the UK so the kind of words used in the text were "don't air me fam, bitch be realz when I'm on your blower" - the fuck does that mean? Apparently meaning (don't disrespect me -which is very ironic considering his input) I only recently found out that "drip" means attire. Grandpa …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/23 02:58 PM
8

I have a story for you. My niece who is 18 recently got herself in all sorts of issues. She's your typical new age teen with her Instagram profile and all other social media platform profiles 'on fleek' or whatever kids say these days. Constantly posting those short videos where her face is immaculate due to the makeup as well as the filters applied on top to get thousands of views. Plus she carries that typical vibe of 'I'm all it' attitude except behind the scenes, she is incredibly naive, ins…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/23 02:23 PM
5

You. Yes you. I like you. Always sound with your input. Keep on being you💪🏼
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/23 01:59 PM
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I'm 40. My wife is 43. We met some 12 years ago. Best decision of my life. I don't mean to be disrespectful towards young women, but I'd rather grate my face to shreds than to have to get with a woman in her low 20's or even younger. We'd be leagues apart in experience and knowledge as well as social discussion points. Not to mention standards, culture, tradition, financially, and everything else in-between. I'd feel like I'd be constantly waiting for her to catch up. A recipe for disaster.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/23 01:58 PM
1

I had my wife tell me this exact sentence early on in our relationship some 12 years ago, and it was a major penny-drop moment for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/23 11:39 AM
1

If a person can't be kind to themselves or forgive themselves, then they're in for a very rough ride. That's basically applicable to everyone on earth. Problem is, understanding the above is an epiphany moment that happens much later in life. It doesn't happen early on. What can happen early on is if young folk have positive role models that they look up to and imitate through learned behaviours. Except again, due to the age of the internet we're in a place where chaos and feeling angry is an ad…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/23 11:31 AM
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Precisely. It doesn't take any energy to be kind. Yet you'll find the majority of people aren't even kind to themselves, let alone others.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/23 11:24 AM
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You got this 💪🏼 every single human being has trauma and it never truly goes away. All we can do is understand it in order to control it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/23 11:20 AM
1

How are you doing now? Hope you're in a better place.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/23 11:06 AM
3

Whether you think you can, or whether you think you can't, you're probably right.
/r/ExRedPill17/02/23 11:01 AM
2

You're both correct. The issue is social media and the poisoning of young minds. If you grew up before the internet became the cesspit it is today, you'd have been influenced in different ways that wouldn't have taken hold compared to the grip the current trends have on young minds. I'm 40 and throughout my teens, the internet was in its infancy. No algorithms, no rabbit holes. I instead was mainly influenced by the hip hop scene of 'I got my bitches and hoes' type trope from videos of some 23 y…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/23 10:30 AM
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If that's what you took from his post, here's a little tip for you: look within yourself. The answer lies there as to why you reacted like this. An even bigger hint (practically the answer): self loathing is a hell of a monster.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/23 09:36 AM
4

Like Dr. Zoidberg during his species' mating ritual?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 10:53 PM
1

Can you elaborate please.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 10:49 PM
5

I didn't know an institution like the NHS would post misinformation. It's not fully debunked. It's a complex issue that is being investigated further over time to find out all the nuances.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 10:46 PM
2

Mr. Popular! 💪🏼
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 10:23 PM
6

You sound very young. How old are you if you don't mind me asking.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 10:20 PM
5

Are you red pill men basically clones? Every one of you say exactly the same thing. It's almost as if you're all part of a cult reading from the same hymn sheet.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 10:16 PM
2

But of course :) So how are you today?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 10:05 PM
2

His or her complacency?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 10:00 PM
6

Which part is a lie? There's no such thing as the strongest hormone. Plus that needs context.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 09:59 PM
2

Must be a reason why. Can you think of a reason why?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 09:56 PM
1

It's more a case of choose the best 2 you want, but the third is the opposite. e.g. want: intelligent+attractive but she'll be crazy. Now play around with the permutations
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 09:55 PM
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That's called an addiction, which is unhealthy, and needs forms of therapy to correct it. Here I'll help you with male hormones. Men and women have the same hormones in the body but they behave differently for the sexes due to different levels. Men produce estrogen, which is necessary in healthy production of sperm, controlling libido as well as erectile dysfunction. Then there's prolactin. Best known for producing breast milk. Prolactin in men spike after their partner gives birth. It's a male …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 09:53 PM
5

Next you'll be telling me that we live in the matrix...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 09:40 PM
10

Yea...I felt like this post was his covert justification whilst possibly feeling torn.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 09:38 PM
11

Really? A rapist, a trafficker, a self proclaimed misogynist. If that's someone you choose to look up to, be my guest.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 09:37 PM
12

Tell me more about men's hormones
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 09:34 PM
5

Would men do that if they are in a loving relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 09:33 PM
12

I mean... That word love is like Kryptonite around these parts.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 09:32 PM
8

If you have to mention Anal Taint as one of your examples, then we're all in for a bad time.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 09:30 PM
3

My man!💪🏼
/r/ExRedPill16/02/23 08:04 PM
1

I know. It's a joke from a long while back and is no longer relevant, nor should be taken seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 08:02 PM
1

Reminds me of the triangle where you can only choose 2 out of three traits on a woman, being attractive, emotionally stable, intelligent. Edit: THIS Double edit: this is meant to be seen as light hearted banter. Not to be taken seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 07:55 PM
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Social media has ripped the fabrics of society. This much is evident. When women have so many options that they can do month long experiments on Tik Tok where they see how many dates they can go on (as many as 30 in a month) essentially using men for content, we have a problem. Things like this adding to men checking out of the dating scene. It's toxic on both ends. Toxic masculinity and right wing ideologies are in full flow. Black pill, red pill, suppository pill, alt-right, QAnon, they all op…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 06:56 PM
2

I don't consider women's body count an issue. Settle down on your unfounded hate for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 06:40 PM
2

Oh you're one of those kind of people who has nothing to say but wants the world to answer your problems. No thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 02:25 PM
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You've gone deep into the red pill haven't you? Plus it's evident you haven't been in love. No sign of ethics or morals. Let me know how it works out for you if and when you have a wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 01:51 PM
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What age woman would you want to get with? State it so we can talk about the positives and negatives Also state your age
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 11:16 AM
4

Well put. Fear of success, I call it.
/r/ExRedPill16/02/23 10:58 AM
3

King, Warrior, Magician, Lover. A book about archetypes and their shadow forms. A Jungian concept borrowed from Plato. It discusses positive and negative character traits that leads us to act accordingly. There's an audio book on YouTube for free although it misses some bits that the book includes. It goes heavy into religion at one point but once you get past that, it has some interesting takes about why we act the way we do.
/r/ExRedPill16/02/23 10:51 AM
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Therapy is designed for women? No. You just made a sexist comment and don't realise how wrong you are. Show me where men get shamed. If it's on the internet then that doesn't count since anyone can say anything from behind their screens
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 10:40 AM
2

So what's your answer to the following scenario. Man and woman have known each other for 3 years. They are committed to each other and they get married. 2 more years pass and they decide to have a kid. The love and sexual desires are still as strong as ever. The baby is born. Should he get a paternity test? Over to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 10:36 AM
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kegal protections Kegel? The contractions of the sphincter muscle? Jokes aside, I'm not sure where you got the idea from that men are hated for seeking help. Courage is highly rewarded and revered. We're constantly talking about mental health issues among men being one of the biggest issues here and how men refuse to seek help due to looking down on therapy. There was a thread just recently where the consensus was that therapists are feminine. There's no winning with this lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 10:33 AM
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🎶Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy?🎶 ...Yup. Just a total fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 10:26 AM
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Well if my wife did that I would be very alarmed and it would instantly become a major issue that would require long discussions. It's a sign of a very unhealthy relationship. Young people may do this but as you get older, if you still do this, man or woman, then it's time to really look within and reflect. If this is the norm in today's dating scene then it's fucked.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 09:30 AM
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But isn't this a sub to discuss both men and women? I've done exactly that. I'll say it again - women who are insecure who check their man's phone are bad news. They are projecting hard and are probably cheating. Now let's discuss the men. They are also insecure. Why is that a bad thing to say? And on top of this, these guys have major issues with themselves. Lacking in self esteem, having anxiety, discussing topics beyond their understanding like hypergamy and whatnot. It's all open to scrutiny…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 09:13 AM
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That's fucked up. She's insecure. I've mentioned how there are issues on both sides
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 08:40 AM
3

So why is he keeping the test a secret?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 08:39 AM
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Ok, so the guy takes the test and he realises the kid is his. That check box is ticked to make the guy feel secure in knowing his wife/girlfriend isn't cheating. But this is already part of a bigger issue. He is untrusting of his partner. He has instilled an ideology that undermines the woman and the relationship is doomed from the start and that poor kid doesn't stand a chance of a healthy upbringing. And to then see so many posts on this sub where single mothers are demonised. It's all encompa…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 06:41 AM
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Yes exactly we have to cover all outcomes and angles. Yet the posters who only look at it from one perspective where demonising the woman is seen as valid is just tiring and here we are constantly having to challenge these point of view with all the nuanced outcomes. Something I don't see being touched on is how whether patriarchy or matriarchy has won when a split occurs. I wonder what the red piller's takes are on which way it sways.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 06:19 AM
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I got banned for a month using the i word so not taking the risk. The issue of Nihilistic view that is instilled in those young men once they go down the rabbit hole of ending up in those forums is that their issues are compounded further and they fall further behind where they started. Yet they don't realise that. As far as they're concerned, they've found their home seeing others who are the same as them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 06:09 AM
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You can't bullshit your way pretending to be concerned lol. Your post is incendiary. There's no sign of sympathy anywhere. It's all covert resentment and contempt. Give it up will ya.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 06:03 AM
2

Are you happy in life?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 06:02 AM
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It's a troll post to indirectly and passive aggressively taunt and mock women. It's to be expected with this crowd. I just made the inverse of this post further down. Let's see how that pans out.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 05:59 AM
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My uncle He's in his early 50s, childfree and unmarried. He studied engineering but ended up partaking in the education field instead, which I found odd. He had an on and off, long distance relationship with the principal of the school he works at, who happens to be a divorcee. The relationship began when he was in his late 30s and split up not too long ago. The thing is, he has absolutely nothing going on with his life aside from his unfulfilling job. He lives with my grandma, doesn't know how …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 05:57 AM
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I was actually feeling despair to see grown men using right wing tropes and then demanding to be taken seriously. So are you advocating for men who are unaware of those type of women? Basically what I'm hearing here is that you are fully aware of those type of women. And as you put it, not all of them are like that yet you're still going to take a paternity test just in case. I'd hate to be the woman in that relationship where my partner who I've decided to have a child with had such low opinion…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 05:46 AM
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Yes I always say the same thing you stated. It's whether these guys have the ability to self reflect instead of going head first into the rabbit hole due to their emotions. Not all women will accuse guys of being creepy. Not all interactions are the same. Not all outcomes are the same. If a guy has zero social skills and is going up to women baring his soul and causing the women discomfort and awkwardness to the point that they call him a creep, then isn't it in his interest to fix his social sk…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 05:40 AM
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One of the downsides of Nihilism is lack of ethics and morality that can occur. Go look it up. Individuals may question the value of moral principles and social norms, which can lead to a lack of concern for the well-being of others and a disregard for ethical principles. Add a lack of empathy to the mix and you have a very negative concoction.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 05:31 AM
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Not OP but for starters, the new red pill movement is made up of the other community who talks about looks and height as the focal point where 'it's over' if you don't possess those traits. The original red pill saw those traits merely as observations. Nihilism is the belief that rejects the existence of any inherent meaning or value in life. Some people might be comfortable with this notion. Plus a person usually arrives at this conclusion late in life after having experienced life. Yet what we…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 05:27 AM
2

I feel like what I just said was misconstrued. I've just laid out that both young men and women are insecure. Women have a plethora of issues just as men do. It's a clash of negative character traits all round. If a woman is brash and derogatory in her words and actions, she's basically telling you that she's not worth your time. So why are we even concentrating on her? We should talk about women that have their shit together and are the real deal. Though they want a real man. Are the men here r…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 05:13 AM
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You're talking about the deeper nuance, and that's all good but we have to go back to who has to raise the kid. Are you making assumptions that the mother is wasting the child support money in herself? We haven't spoken about this yet so if that's the case then yes that happens and it's fucked up. She is neglecting the child. But we then have to ask why the father left to begin with. That's neglect too.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 05:08 AM
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Sure, it's something I suffered from for too long. Toxic masculinity perpetuates the idea that men should be tough, unemotional, and aggressive, while also promoting the notion that women are inferior and should be submissive. It can also prevent men from expressing their emotions, seeking help when they need it, or forming close relationships with others. Each area I just spoke about can be drilled into and discussed in far greater capacity. But the notion is that men are told there's nothing w…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 05:04 AM
0

You tell me. You folks bang on about 'high value' - '10/10' women all the time without stating what age she is. Maybe be specific on what you mean by those terms. If it's all based on looks, then that's just asking for trouble. She can be good looking but utterly unintelligent and insulting.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 04:56 AM
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Young women are very insecure just like young men. Nothing new. Same as it ever was. It's just that the new age red pilled men now have such fragile egos that shatter the moment a woman doesn't respond how he would have liked her to. Plus it seems like these guys are set on their beliefs that creepiness = not physically attractive. Oh well. Their choice. The world carries on without them, knowing that looks only make up a small percentage of the full picture and that character traits and persona…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 04:51 AM
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How can I take you seriously when you use words like 'beta bux' whilst generalising women? You're showing signs of low intelligence. Do you realise this? Someone somewhere told you that every woman has been through the mill and you believed them head on without any critical thinking behind it. You've had your emotions hijacked.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 04:40 AM
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You chose to have a child. It is your burden to carry because it was your choice Who chose? The woman only? If so, then that's entrapment and yes that's wrong of her. Child support is necessary if the guy walks away afterwards despite both parties agreeing to have the child. Besides, as others have said, a very low percentage go to the point of asking and agreeing to pay child support through the courts.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 04:37 AM
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If both parties agree to have a kid, where's the issue? OP's broad use of being suspicious was the issue. I can understand if he specified scenarios such as a one night stand between man and woman especially high profile cases. But broad brush strokes are always going to become issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 04:33 AM
3

But women bad! - reason #5787534784 or something🤷🏻‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 11:51 PM
8

Shall we talk about toxic masculinity too in that case? Of which the whole of the online manosphere operates under.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 11:47 PM
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If you are talking about young women, then they use that brash attitude to reject a guy and call him ugly because she herself is ugly inside and insecure. If you are talking about actual women, it's about attitude and personality characteristics. If however he is unkempt, would you want someone who smells of piss talking to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 11:21 PM
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Personally speaking, I saw OP's post as a projection of things he cannot be when he looked into his future.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 11:08 PM
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Women are twice as likely to win custody cases, even if they're proven to be abusive towards their children. Men will still have to pay child support. A very difficult discussion point that would require a long discussion. I haven't done the statistics to neither agree or disagree with your sentence about abuse. As for child support, it's a legal requirement. Suppose the man no longer wants any part in their son's life. He should pay child support considering the mother is doing all the hard wor…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 10:49 PM
0

Heh. No response from him. The silence is deafening.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 11:16 PM
2

So how's it working out for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 09:58 AM
1

Oh deary me. If the Dennis system is what you have to use to get women, they are not 'high value' - a true high value woman would eat you alive. You are basically catching broken women. Most likely broken by the previous red pill guy who messed her up. Sloppy seconds anyone?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 09:57 AM
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Your profile is scary. Then again I realise this is the internet fantasy land that majority of men here operate in from behind their anonymous usernames. I realise that guys who speak like you are very docile and unassuming in public due to crippling fear and anxiety.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 09:55 AM
1

And how old are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 09:52 AM
3

As the saying goes, you cannot reason someone out of a position that they never reasoned themselves into. He fell down the rabbit hole due to his frustrations and shortcomings. He wanted answers to his issues but instead ended up in a place totally to his detriment. His rhetorics and anger are symbols of his indoctrination unbeknownst to him. He is merely a passenger to his emotions, which are constantly being exploited. And here's the bit that matters. You see, every single human being will hav…
/r/ExRedPill12/02/23 10:47 PM
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Are you worried you won't find someone else due to not knowing your own self worth? It's a very common thing in youth. Right now you're with someone who doesn't see you for what you're worth. He's putting you below him due to his indoctrination. You know what you need to do. Leave. Your future you will thank you a million times for doing it sooner than later. If you stick around, especially longer than you need to, it will be you who suffers later. Your future you will lament the time wasted.
/r/ExRedPill12/02/23 10:35 PM
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That's where you set healthy boundaries. You sit your girlfriend down and talk to her in a manner that lets her know how her situation affects you personally during those times. You are creating a healthy boundary whilst remaining true and respectful both to her and yourself. You still have to watch out how you communicate the issue. There's no point if your words come out as a blame game or guilt tripping. It takes practice. You might get responses from guys here who will say men are more logic…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 08:57 PM
1

It's what I mention here often. It's one thing to read the theory, it's another to put it to the test. If a person is fearful of getting started due to fear of failure and rejection, he'll end up just digesting more and more of the therapy and regressing rather than growing.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 08:46 PM
1

Yes. And all those tropes will create a woman who will be damaged and gaslit. Her world view will skew where the tropes become the norm. Essentially, the guys here who want to practice these tropes are creating the very women that they despise who supposedly have a high n count or are single mothers. And that's because these men are scorned.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 08:28 PM
1

I thought that was quite hilarious don't you think? There was someone earlier who used it to push red pill misogyny so I decided to do the same. All is fair in love and war right?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 08:23 PM
1

Yes precisely. Life is a thousand shades of grey. It's not hard for us to be kind to each other in a time where everyone is losing their heads. Good talking though. All the best.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 08:22 PM
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No not at all. They have genuine struggles. Many have neurodivergent issues that have remained undiagnosed. Many struggle with major anxiety. I truly feel for them. Where I will forever make my voice heard is to mention this: it was hard enough for these young men to begin with but to have fallen down a rabbit hole that is of no benefit to these men, where they are indoctrinated to believe in a toxic ideology is what makes me keep coming back here to mention that their beliefs are part of a brai…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 08:05 PM
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I'm ex red pill. I use certain teachings of the original red pill which allowed me to better myself that led to a higher level of understanding self respect. I'm centrist in my political stance because I've found it utterly stupid to take sides especially when it won't benefit me in the long run. When you see people push someone's agenda, it makes you wonder if they ever took a step back to recognise just what the hell they were thinking. Take Tate's followers who are doing the legwork for him i…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 07:58 PM
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The best evidence I have is my own experience. Throughout maybe a dozen different women I've dated in my lifetime, I've had much more success using redpill concepts compared to blue pill. Yes, red pill has some good teachings. They make the man have that eureka moment. I myself am ex red pill and have taken many pointers from it. Where I draw the line is when red pill (especially this new iteration) has gone beyond the norm in choosing to be toxic and misogynistic towards women. And should any g…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 07:47 PM
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The red pill is a concept that has been popularized in various internet communities, particularly among certain groups on the political right. It is often used to refer to the idea of waking up from a false reality or seeing things as they really are, especially with regards to political or ideological beliefs. However, in some cases, the red pill is used as a symbol for accepting certain controversial or unpopular opinions, especially regarding gender relations and social justice. These opinion…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 07:25 PM
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Absolutely, cope is a trope word used by both sides as a form of being derogatory to each other. And I'm just as guilty in using it here.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 07:16 PM
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Let's suppose you work for a company and you're asked to research a specific topic. How would you go about creating a report that outlines both sides of the same talking point? You wouldn't just report on one side that you personally agree on would you? You'd remain neutral and give a down-the-middle report right? Yet take a look at your own response here. How did you come to the conclusion? Did you take the time to read what every talking point in the other sub is? Did you weigh up the pros and…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 07:13 PM
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The sigma male is a whole subset of men who have created that term to describe themselves. They see themselves on the same level as an alpha male, without the societal obligations. Irony being that they live and function in society. In other words they are basically coping. It's just another flavour of the manosphere that limits the person who peddles the ideology.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 07:06 PM
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I got banned permanently in the red pill forum on my first go for apparently 'moralising' - it's pots and kettles everywhere. That's Reddit for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 07:04 PM
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You know what I would love to see? I would love for every single guy in here who remains misogynistic and has this negative Nihilistic world view at such a young age to just try getting into a relationship with someone who is their equal instead of compartmentalizing women into arbitrary numbers like '10/10' - the aim is to gain experience, not knowledge. But you see, that cannot happen so long as the guys here peddle a belief system that is so detrimental to them. Beggars can't be choosers. Ins…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 07:03 PM
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Are we actually saying that the sigma ballz are worth listening to?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 06:58 PM
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Who is this response helping? It's strawman, and shows you were triggered by my comment. Do you wish to discuss this further?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 06:55 PM
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Ohhhh yes. It harms the abuser and the abused. For the abuser, he becomes so entwined in the dark triad of psychology, that he loses himself to it. No human is capable of controlling the dark arts. Look through history for yourself to see this if you choose to care. No empathy, sociopathy, and psychopathy become the norm. It destroys him. The abused begins to trauma bond with the abuser. Her world view begins to take hold where she goes from one wrong person to the next. There are many posts in …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 06:53 PM
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Ironic because if a person lacks logic, reasoning, and critical thinking, they won't realise that they are part of a brainwashing and propaganda. The poster is very deep in his emotions and lacks the ability to use logic. If the teachings of the red pill are the truth, it would allow each person who practices it to become happy and content, whilst reaping the fruits of their labour. Yet everyone here is stuck and miserable. Why is that?... Also, if you think of religion, which amounts to being w…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 06:40 PM
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Irony: Defined as: An expression or utterance marked by a deliberate contrast between apparent and intended. Incongruity between what might be expected and what actually occurs. An occurrence, result, or circumstance notable for such incongruity. You see, many here who call themselves red pilled think they've been enlightened with their new found knowledge. So why then are they so angry and frustrated while remaining sexless? Now that's irony.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 06:32 PM
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It's a place where one can have a decent discussion mainly due to people having a healthy dose of logic and reasoning about them while having dignity, humility, and a controlled ego that isn't fragile. I recommend every guy in here to read the detox post on that sub - not because you need it, but to hear what the other side has to say in order to make a sound judgment call.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 06:05 PM
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This is very ironic.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 06:03 PM
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I'm actually rooting for him to realise that 'average' can mean a million different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/23 09:34 AM
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So what will you do about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 08:24 PM
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So are all women like this?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 08:18 PM
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Can you define 'average' please?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 08:17 PM
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Someone's watched too much porn methinks j/k
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 08:12 PM
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Jeezus dude you're 5'8. I'm 5'10, which is just 5cm taller. That's nothing between us. At my height I've had no issues in dating. Stay away from those black pill forums that poison your head if you know what's good for you.
/r/ExRedPill27/01/23 04:07 PM
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It was an open question, not an accusation.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 09:43 PM
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Isn't this a case of you projecting your insecurity? Like if you are zero or low n count, you'd feel inferior to her right?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 09:06 PM
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That's cool and all, so why are guys here so obsessed with the high n count women? Every post is about them. Seems like those women live rent free in their heads. Plus everyone's already been made fully aware of these women so it's not like anyone needs further warnings to avoid these women. wouldn't it be better for the guys to talk about what they really want? What gives? Edit: Spellings
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 08:56 PM
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Interesting. I already knew that young red pill men were scholars of female psychology, but I didn't know they were also amazing clairvoyants who could see the future too! Unless... The comments are from red pill men that got betabuxxed? In which case, based on their own terms, they aren't red pilled. Have I got that right?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 08:53 PM
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Since this sub insists men have an obsession major insecurity with a woman’s sexual past, I’m interested to see which way men would lean. There, FTFY.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 08:23 PM
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Hmm. It seems like young men here see life as black or white when instead life is a thousand shades of grey. Plus these terms never cease to make me laugh. Betamax? Yea I used to buy those cassette tapes in my youth...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 08:20 PM
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I see you got your post removed. Your logic is really bad. That's not how attraction works. Go out more
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 08:00 PM
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There's a divide between online and reality. Tik Tok, Instagram Facebook, and all those apps are like a hip-hop video where everything is highly exaggerated to create views and shock. As a shitty example, if you remember Snoop Dogg's hip-hop videos of 20 years ago, all those wheel rims spinning, money raining, the champagne flowing, it created an aura and a vibe and an image. Yet Snoop was a married man, settled and far different than the image he gave off. It was part of the scene. You only see…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 07:26 PM
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Wealth and status still ultimately attracts women. It's just that the percentage of men that has the level of wealth and status that will undeniably attract desirable women are a very small minority. This is because women can now work and support themselves. However, the average woman is broke and living paycheck to paycheck. Hmm so if the woman is 'average' and broke, how is she able to go for and settle with a high status guy? Is the high status guy stupid and blind? lol why do you choose to p…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 07:10 PM
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Have you ever been with a woman? Try it sometimes
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 07:05 PM
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So if 70% are settled, and the other 30% is divided into 5% who sleep around, what are the other 25% doing? Which banana republic do these stats belong to? Besides, isn't it the belief of many young men here that if you're under 5'9”, you won't even be able to get started? Which bracket do you belong to?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 07:03 PM
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Preach 🙏🏼
/r/ExRedPill24/01/23 05:47 PM
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He's a troll for sure. This kind of post should be taken down because it compounds the issue for someone who actually is suffering from this mindset who will see a post like this and the responses and will realise that it's all pointless to bring up because of how we're responding to him. It's quite evil when you think about it
/r/ExRedPill24/01/23 12:58 PM
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I feel like this is a troll post... I don't understand. How can you have such daft logic. Honestly I don't mean to be harsh on you. Do you know the difference in centimeters between 5'9 and 6'? Go and search it on Google. Plus what stops you from telling a white lie? If a girl is shorter than you do you really think she will notice. You people.... Way to go negating everything that you currently are as a human being simply because your height doesn't match some brainwashing doctrine that you are…
/r/ExRedPill24/01/23 12:57 PM
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How about we bar young men from accessing the internet. That's the root of all their troubles - obviously not possible.
/r/ExRedPill24/01/23 12:44 PM
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Nah incels have a shitty attitude to life and refuse to fix their mental well-being
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 12:41 PM
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Lack of male role models for young men creates toxic masculinity. It's why all these online grifters like Anal Taint exist
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 10:44 AM
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Thank you I'll take a look. Good chatting to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 10:34 AM
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Wow. Just wow. You actually typed out all that thinking you had some justification? Fuck me... You are comparing rape to a surface level behaviour? Get the fuck out of here. Now I understand why you guys are lonely.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 09:41 AM
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I'm surprised you don't mind being tarnished by the black pill boys in here taking your label yet you have a problem with me got pointing it out. Which one are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 09:25 AM
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Why do you dehumanise the very beings of your desires?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 09:21 AM
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Religion, red pill, black pill, they're all cults and operate as such
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 09:20 AM
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The terms are not offensive, derogatory or dehumanising in other fields. How hard is this to understand?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 09:19 AM
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Yea agreed. However these young men seem paralyzed from the anger, which is deep rooted, masking the real feeling underneath, which is possibly sadness but they refuse to admit it to themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 10:56 PM
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Is life a game when you fall ill?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 09:48 PM
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Fully agreed. I'm always willing to learn more about everything. To think that I know it all would be a catastrophic failure on my part. What I didn't do well in this post was to give examples of what could work. A learning lesson for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 09:47 PM
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Yes absolutely. Anger is an amazing catalyst for change. But that can only happen when you are not stuck in an ideology that is detrimental to your growth - which seems to be the case with these young men yet they cannot see it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 09:35 PM
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You seem well adjusted and seem to have your ego in check. Kudos.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 09:29 PM
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Yet you're happy to inflict the same emotional baggage on a young naive girl and then move on? So long as you got yours right? That's messed up
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 09:18 PM
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Agreed
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 09:01 PM
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Most likely because they know it's an open weakness and they are desperately trying to shut it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 08:36 PM
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So how long will you be playing the game for? All the way into your 60's? Is there a decline for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 08:30 PM
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It's fair that you have these views. I gave mine and I fully expected to hear different opinions bounce back. I've already made the mistake of confusing red pill men with black pill as evidenced in many comments. I guess what I want to say to these guys is that it all turns out fine in the end but they need to get back up after knock-downs instead of giving up and complaining
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 08:27 PM
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Thank you I guess 🤷🏽‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 08:19 PM
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Yea I realise the majority here are black pill in disguise
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 08:14 PM
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Well you are actually in a very similar position to where I was 10 years ago at 30. So it's not over or anything like that. You just need to make sure the next 10 years are more productive than the previous 10. You're going to be just fine. If you have anxiety issues, I'd highly recommend forms of therapy. People write it off, but it can be a life saver. All the best to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 08:07 PM
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That's fair to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 08:00 PM
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Absolutely. It's just leaves me in despair seeing what's playing out online. But then I guess someone who's 60 now will have been in despair 20 years ago when they were 40 at how the scene was playing out back then pre-social media.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 07:55 PM
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I'm a guy. Sure, I'm older at 40, but I went through similar struggles at 15-25 and it's all relative. It's just about getting back up when knocked down
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 07:50 PM
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I fully agree with you. These young men are incels in disguise.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 07:49 PM
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Don't take my word at face value. Someone else will come along and say that what I said was a form of catastrophization and propaganda to cause anxiety in others. And they'd be right. I'll say this much. You are the frontrunner in the whole of your family history. If you go back even just 500 years into your family dynasty, your great ancestors had to overcome far greater issues in life than you are having to today, and I mean that with the greatest respect. They overcame war, famine, natural di…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 07:18 PM
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This is a great response. Kudos to you. I have no rebuttal to any of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 07:05 PM
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I agree with what you say. What if he is part of a belief system where the foundations are to jump through x,y,z hoops. Is he limiting himself? You've seen me call red pill a cult. I stand by that due to the extreme militant nature of the beliefs it pushes onto people. And if you're young, you would be none the wiser and would follow things to the letter instead of chopping and choosing what works.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 06:59 PM
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Well that's good, so long as the change is a positive one. Anger can be a catalyst for many great outcomes
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 06:55 PM
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But you just decided to put your bros under the bus. Is it every man for himself in these communities?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 06:52 PM
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I truly do feel for the youth of today in how technology has fucked things up. But by God, these youngsters don't make it easy for themselves by donning a whole new belief system that is actually more detrimental to their overall progress. From what I've seen, the majority of young women are utter idiots. Especially those who proudly flaunt themselves online. If I had a son I'd tell him to avoid those kind at all costs. They're basically telling you that they are to be avoided. The real gems are…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 06:51 PM
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It's a long process. Say you fell into the red or worst the black pill at 15. You'll travel through the layers. Now let's say you're 20. Got nothing to show for your time in those communities other than feeling frustrated with the landscape. Another 5 years passes and you've tried improving your outcomes by changing yourself as best as you can because you realise time isn't on your side. You look around you and you realise other 25-30 year olds are doing well for themselves. Your non pilled frie…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 06:46 PM
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I mean to call it red pill based on a movie is what discredits the whole thing to begin with but let's overlook that. Just to use words like 'beta bux' is cringeworthy alone but let's overlook that. Don't you find it ironic that these men are improving themselves not for themselves, but for getting the attention of what works to get women? Isn't that... simping?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 06:40 PM
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You got kids in here talking about hypergamy when all they've had is one little chat online with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 06:35 PM
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So are you misogynistic? Have you ever fallen in love? Is your house in order? And on and on
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 06:34 PM
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Fair post 👍🏼
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 06:34 PM
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That's hilarious. Asks why are they right wing and then uses the word soy, which was born in right wing circles lol. I posted it before but here you go. It's a pretty well documented fact that sexist ideologies attract people who exhibit dark triad traits and encourage those traits in people who would otherwise not exhibit them. It's a main reason that the FBI and Secret Service are studying possible violence from radicalized incels as a genuine domestic terrorist threat. When you dehumanize an …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 06:32 PM
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So if you had a wife or a gf and she acted in a particular way, that seals the deal for you because it reflects your presupposed beliefs? What about communicating the issue with the person? You know, setting boundaries maybe?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 06:29 PM
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Well no. They are taken to extremes. Every time.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 06:27 PM
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Interesting. What's your outlook and what can be done about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 06:26 PM
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Absolutely. We are seeing the dark side of technology. It has connected us all yet we feel more lonely than ever before. If you look at the movements such as being health conscious, it's been taken to new levels in the last 10-13 years where our learning of diet and science has caused people to live better healthy lives compared to the previous generations. Smoking is on the decline, as well as drinking. More people speak about health issues openly however it's still slow progress. Women have ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 06:26 PM
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Do you feel it causes men to lose hope, setting them back even further? Personally speaking, that's what I'm seeing across the board.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 06:04 PM
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Calls me patronising... Then goes on to call me a boomer and a tree hugger. The cognitive dissonance is strong with this one.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 05:59 PM
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It's fair and I love talking to all people and getting to understand their position in why the think the way they do. It just fascinates me that there are individuals here who seem like they enjoy self inflicted pain, if that's the right way to put it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 05:58 PM
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Damn. Self burn🔥
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 05:56 PM
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Imagine that the rope they threw is glued with glass dust and the place outside the sandpit is nothing but a giant burning trashcan. I would prefer the sand pit. Ah so you do accept that you've killed hope, innocence, and wonder within you. Do you see what I'm desperately trying to show you? If it isn't one issue, it's another and they're all compounding one another.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 05:49 PM
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I agree. It has changed socially and the division is greater now than ever before. OLD is a sham. Its sole purpose is to make money for the company providing the service. What hasn't changed is opportunities in the real world. You'll still find pockets of the truest form of dating that allows men and women to meet and begin something legit.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 05:44 PM
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Surely if a guy has earned his merits and has become the truest form of what it means to be a man, who also has his house in order, and has matured emotionally, then no matter what the nature of a woman is, he'd be above it all and would choose wisely in who to get with right? He would command respect. So why would he worry himself with all this? Is it because there is no such man, and everyone is reeling from something in their life, so rather than face our issues, we outwardly pour our frustra…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 05:34 PM
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I had to swallow the reality pill that told me I fucked up after I lost my youth. It'll happen to you too. Don't take my word for it. Continue on your path and you'll get there. The fact that you responded tells me it caused a stir in you. It almost feels like a denial response.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 05:17 PM
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Why then have the red pill men taken it to the extreme where the community has their own terminologies for everything? Is it not a cult?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 05:14 PM
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Then say it like it is. EWALT? E for enough. Go ahead and change the doctrine on the internet. There's a wiki isn't there? Except you all sing from the same hymn sheet of AWALT and the newcomers are none the wiser.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 05:12 PM
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They want control over the naive young women. They know that youth has no bite or grit so they actively target these younglings. That makes these men abhorrent.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 05:11 PM
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Kudos for asking as it shows interest. My main realisation was that I had reduced a huge pool of women to what the red pill told me to look for aka a 10/10 (whatever that meant) - and I realised I was regurgitating someone else's beliefs. Back 20 years ago you had the likes of Mystery, Tyler Durden and whichever other useless PUA's who thought they were god's gift to women flaunting their useless canned materials. It made the whole dating scene utterly miserable and superficial. On top of that I…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 05:07 PM
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No offence but why does this read like a revenge fantasy? I'm sure that's not what you meant by this post but it alludes to that mindset.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 04:48 PM
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What if tomorrow the most beautiful woman on earth talked to you and wanted to be with you. You know what would happen? You'd reject her because of you current beliefs. You'd think it was too good to be true and you would sabotage your own happiness. It means you weren't ready. That's self loathing in effect. That's the way I see the red pill. It is like a sandpit where everyone is stuck and anyone who throws a rope down to help the stuck ones is met with sheer vitriol. Edit: Spellings
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 04:34 PM
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Look at the words you use. Look at the beliefs you have. These are not norms of the real world. How many women do YOU know that have a 50+ n count? And I don't mean some pornstar that you like. It's just so baffling to see this belief get spoken about. Reality is nothing like what you just described. Your notions are built on extremes as well as a zero sum game where there must be a winner, and it must be the guy. That is NOT how life works. It's a very self limiting belief. Plus are you telling…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 04:30 PM
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Are you arguing with yourself here? What am I supposed to respond to?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 04:23 PM
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I'm not sure why the attitude then. I'm doing my best in responding to all.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 04:22 PM
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How do you feel about all the posts that discuss height and looks as the main issues (which are black pill talking points) - which is anything, are observations in the red pill, not the standard?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 04:18 PM
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When I have shown a better way it has instantly been batted away as "blue pill" or "simp" or whatever other derogatory term has been used. My answer has always been to see life as multi-layered, multi-faceted, and multi-dimensional. That alone makes life incredibly complex. No amount of teachings can set you up for the journey. I've always said to apply every teaching available and to take what works best. A bit of psychology, a dash of philosophy, a pinch of stoicism, some red pill, a little bl…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 04:08 PM
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I'd expect the kind of answer you've given here and am in agreement. I'd argue that using a term like AWALT is self detrimental as it clouds one's own view of the real situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 03:59 PM
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Isn't this an unnecessary negative self fulfilling prophecy bestowed by the man onto himself? He's basically casting himself out due to this irrational belief and reasoning given. If the 'average' guy didn't know anything about the red pill and was brought up to live his life in the best way possible, he'd go through it in the confines of what is considered 'normal' - in that he'd be making tons mistakes, have his heart broken, fall in love, and so on. Compare that to the red pill man who gets s…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 03:55 PM
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Are the red pill men here frustrated that their name and group is being tarnished by the black pill subset?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 03:36 PM
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Sorry wrongly taken out of context by me.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 03:35 PM
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Yea, I’m well aware of the strong overlap between incels, right-wing ideologies and the redpill pipeline. Unfortunately all these young folk are not aware. They are using the terminologies freely without consequences online and it's intoxicating to them to feel this sense of power. Some of them say this stuff in real life and pay the price such as losing their job etc. I've heard of cases of young kids in school spouting misogyny without even knowing what that word means. It becomes learned beha…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 03:32 PM
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Why are you attacking blue pill lol. I'm guessing you're assuming I'm one? Critical thinking requires a sense of self and previous experience to rely on. Seems like a lot of people here rely on anecdotal evidence and generalisations.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 03:11 PM
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Those words are right wing tropes used to dehumanise its targets. It's a pretty well documented fact that sexist ideologies attract people who exhibit dark triad traits and encourage those traits in people who would otherwise not exhibit them. It's a main reason that the FBI and Secret Service are studying possible violence from radicalized incels as a genuine domestic terrorist threat. When you dehumanize an entire group of people as the red pill does to women, it leads to violence against that…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 03:07 PM
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Cool cool. So AWALT stands... One man rapes. Therefore ALL men are rapists. Do you care to defend your corner now that I've called you a rapist? Surely you don't like that label right? Hence why critical thinking is so damn important. But don't let me stop you down the path you're on. (And I don't mean this at you personally, it's rhetorical)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 03:02 PM
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AWALT - most women Oh come on man. Which is it? "All"? Or "most"? And then to have the audacity of making the AWALT claim when the person has only had a handful of dates, if that. Do you see? This right here is the kind of issue we have. I mentioned elsewhere in this post how a young unsuspecting man who walks into the community will take AWALT at face value and will get utterly jaded. Don't these guys care for the youngsters of this community? Obviously not.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 03:00 PM
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Your first mistake was to divide life into shitty pill references from a movie lol - how can anyone take this place seriously?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 02:55 PM
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If you took a moment to truly understand your own feelings, you'll see that what you just wrote came from a place of having something within you yanked that caused you discomfort.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 02:54 PM
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Are you black pilled?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 02:52 PM
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Must we do this? Ok sure we'll do this. Just because you are fourty doesn't make you qualified. What even is the point of your post? All I get from this post is the feeling that you paint yourself as someone who has figured it all out and therefore is in a position to tell others what they should do and where they are wrong. That's called having a god complex. It's a warning to the youth of today. Did you read the very top of my post after where I declared my age? I specifically said how I lamen…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 02:49 PM
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Totally. And that's sad to watch where we've ended up. One of the main issues I have is that the majority of these black pill men posting under the red pill umbrella is that they are intelligent enough to understand what they are saying. They know full well that they cannot say even 5% of the stuff they spout here in the real world. That makes them utter cowards. And they need to be called out for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 02:13 PM
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Nice deflection from the truth
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 01:53 PM
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Why choose to be misogynistic against the very beings of your desires then? AWALT? Cock carousel? Monkey branching? What are these terms, if not right wing tropes that dehumanises a whole half of society? If a person has critical thinking, he would instantly realise the stupidity in the above.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 01:21 PM
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I mean... At the end of the day it's you who is choosing to shoot yourself point blank in the face by remaining paralyzed in this current state and mindset that you are in. It's no one's issue but yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 01:10 PM
4

Fair enough. I'll add one more pill to it. (Not directed at you btw) Suppository pill: Shit out everything you've internalised and go out into the real world. Live in the moment. Get your heart broken. It's good for you and will allow you to grow instead of living in fear and masquerading as something you're not.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 12:50 PM
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I don't despise red pill men. I mourn the state of their ideology to think that the world is what they've been told to believe it to be. Sure go ahead and call me grandpa if you like. I just choose to live in the real world and remain in the present instead of causing myself anguish by painting the beings of my desires with a broad brush stroke, thereby tainting my own beliefs. You'll notice every attack in this thread by the red pill men are personal attacks against me rather than reasoning aga…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 12:42 PM
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Zaddy: Typically a guy whos older than you but sexy af. He makes u wet just thinking about him. You even considered having his baby. Spoils you rotten, treats you right and fucks you even better. If you have to tell me you're sexy or alpha or whatever, then you're not those things. It's just a projection. For a very small moment back there, you seemed like you had calmed down a little and were making sense in your previous comments but here we are again with the projection.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 12:34 PM
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If you are young and spouting things outside your understanding, then you'd be a fool to think you know it all. That's applicable for both young men and women. That's a no brainer. It's most likely the case that how men mention women's shortcomings goes beyond just exploring the issues, but by throwing in misogyny unnecessarily causes the responses that you're possibly getting.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 12:32 PM
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Precisely. The red pill is just one map. And as the saying goes: "The map is not the territory" - I just wish these youngsters could understand that by walking around with just one map as the basis for their beliefs, they'll have a bad time. They need several maps laid on top of each other to make a far better sense of the territory. Young men need a little bit of everything instilled in them. Philosophy, psychology, stoicism, some red pill teachings, real life experiences, and so on. But I know…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 12:30 PM
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When did I say I didn’t give a shit tho? The red pill doctrine as it stands has AWALT in its entirety written to mean exactly that. Is anyone going to change its meaning to what you wrote in your last reply? Obviously not right? And therein lies the problem. So if you cared, you'd make sure to raise awareness about it across the board. But that's not possible. So here we are. There will be plenty of grifters to fill the space that Anal Taint leaves behind. That's just the nature of it. You might…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 12:25 PM
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Kudos to you man. Nice to have conversations like this where all angles are covered and discussed in depth instead of a cat and mouse game of trying to get some truths out of a person who doubles down on their misguided ideology.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 12:16 PM
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No offence, but you need to get out more into the real world man. All these terminologies. All these derogatory terms. Ugh. You'll rot your brain.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 12:11 PM
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Indeed there are a lot of black pilled young men masquerading as red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 12:09 PM
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Yes I'm aware of the 5 stages of grief except these young men are too inexperienced to understand this and by remaining in the red pill community their negative feelings and beliefs are compounded to keep them in the throes of the anger phase.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 12:08 PM
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Perfectly put. Thank you. Gentlemen, this here is critical thinking in action.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 12:06 PM
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So what you're saying is: You truly couldn't give a shit when a newly indoctrinated young man who walks into the red pill community and takes AWALT at face value but somehow has to figure out "that's not meant to be taken literally alright bro" - you put your own 'bro' under the bus and caused him misery by limiting his understanding. Good going, 'bro' And I'm not blue pill either. I'm just living a simple happy life where I'm not having to label myself some online trope. Go tell someone in the …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 12:04 PM
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Your description of the red pill is what I remember it being from its first inception more than 20 years ago. So what you're saying is: there are black pill men in here masquerading as red pill? Why doesn't the red pill men call them out? They are tarnishing the red pill men and its ideologies right? Plus if the true red pill men are in here who know this stuff like you've described, why does it feel like crabs in a bucket rather than the elders helping the younglings? It feels like every man fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 12:01 PM
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Yes, and it's tragic that they fall for these tropes at such a young age before having the chance to think critically as I've mentioned.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 11:56 AM
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It just saddens me that we're here in this situation and these young privileged men will end up in an "I told you so" scenario at the end of it all, by which point their youth will be gone. Such is life I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 11:52 AM
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Well that was disappointing to read. I thought it was going somewhere positive. Never mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 11:46 AM
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I mean... If we're talking of mass generalisation, what is the red pill if not the very same thing hmm?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 11:45 AM
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I'm glad we're having this back and forth because you're showing everyone the hypocrisy of the red pill. You are reactionary. And the reason for that is due to projection of an issue within YOU. And before you say I'm psychoanalysing you, I was you at one point in my youth. I'd get ultra defensive at the first sign of feeling attacked.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 11:39 AM
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If I'm being totally honest, anyone who associates themselves with some form of pill - needs a suppository pill to shit it all out.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 11:34 AM
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Read the words you use. Cuck? Simps? These are symbols of your own indoctrination. Do you realise this? And might I add, you have basically given food for thought to anyone who reads your comments considering how angry you seem. Isn't that what I posted? Putting an entire group in a box is what the red pill does. AWALT anyone?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 11:31 AM
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I have a 14 year old nephew who is spouting Andrew Tate bullshit because of just one rejection from a girl, and went down the wrong path due to the nature of online algorithms. What I've written it's not some psychoanalysis. It's experience. Please gain some. And the irony is sweet on your phrasing considering how often the young men here think that they are armchair scholars in the field of female psychology. With all due respect, gain some life experiences in the real world.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 11:18 AM
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Much respect to you for outlining the issue in a nuanced and articulated way. Something that I try to raise often in here is to show the young men that whilst what they feel (in terms of the injustice and frustrations about the current state of things) are mainly unfounded in the real world. We humans are habitual. We have the ability and potential for greatness yet at the same time have the ability and potential for total destruction both outwardly and inwardly. And should we become set in one …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 11:11 AM
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Thank you for your honesty. Of course, I meant both genders have their set of faults. That's what living is for; to learn and progress. My red pill comment at the end of my post is equally applied to women where they fall foul of online tropes like FDS where they become scorned and paint all men with the same brush and proclaim "all men are bastards!" I just wish there was more critical thinking in this sub amongst the young men, but my personal analysis is that the red pill has further moved th…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 09:31 AM
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Do all women do this? You made it sound like they all do. Did you experience this in your past relationship? If so that's not all women. When I originally mentioned mental health I meant it as an all encompassing term for both men and women yet somehow you narrowed it down to how women shame men. Can you not see how thinking like this is a red flag?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 07:44 AM
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Sounds like you've been programmed well by the red pill to instantly go women bashing. Jeezus. I'm talking mental health exactly like what you just portrayed. Lay off the internet for a while.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 07:31 AM
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Physical wellbeing is important but I'd argue that mental wellbeing is just as important if not more. At a time like right now in the world where the majority of people are getting their emotions so easily hijacked and manipulated from internet algorithms, the media, influencers, and misinformation; the kind of person who can use logic, reasoning, and emotional intelligence whilst being content in their own skin to challenge everything are seen as the true kings and queens. It puts them far ahea…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 01:56 AM
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Are all women feminists?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/23 08:02 PM
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Then we should let them continue to have a bad time. 🤷🏻‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/23 06:41 PM
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@red pill men: Read this comment above from Cim and try to understand that women are all independent of each other in their thoughts, needs, beliefs, and desires. No two women are the same! But if you men choose to label all women as the same, you'll have a bad time, and you'll certainly miss out on great women that you would have a chance with.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/23 05:41 PM
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Is this a long way of saying men here are bigots?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/23 04:17 PM
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So men are hypergamous? Why then do men here have a problem with women doing the same lol
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/23 12:44 PM
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You're telling me jackshit. You're just portraying your insecurity and victim complex like every other guy here with the same mindset. You haven't lived. You live in fear because the pain of getting hurt is too debilitating.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/23 02:53 AM
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Why is that a problem for YOU and solely you? How does it stop you from getting what's yours?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/23 02:44 AM
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You just painted all women in the West in the last 15-20 years with the same brush. How could I possibly take you seriously? Try to understand what you just did.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/23 02:33 AM
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Perfect answer. Despite your original post outlining the issue, suddenly these guys felt like they should be your therapist
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/23 02:28 AM
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That's because the guy hasn't levelled himself up. Because if he did he'd be the one marrying one of these women you speak of. Instead the guy plays victim or doesn't level up to the desired level and instead becomes entitled.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/23 02:22 AM
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It depends on your age. When you're young, you think that sex is the best thing ever. When you're experienced at sex, you no longer just want sex. You went it with the right woman. When you're older and in love, sex takes on a whole different meaning. So it's all relative to age. But saying all this, it's also dependent on the person who desires sex and with whom. Some guys want nothing but a young girl to have sex with. They go as far as having pedophilic tendencies. That's a whole other kettle…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/23 02:09 AM
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You sound miserable
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/23 02:01 AM
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Got the data for such a claim Edit: 10 hours later: didn't think so. Just another lost soul spouting shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/23 04:30 PM
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But they didn't get indoctrinated to become worse
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/23 03:35 PM
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Glad you mentioned this as this is the kind of conversation these young men need to have in here instead of just women bashing. Everything you've said is correct. Now comes the next bit. Why are there 'average' or 'ugly' looking people walking around in the UK, happy as can be, minding their own business, living their happy little lives? Is it them that know something that the red pill men don't? Or is it vice versa? What constitutes happiness? On the other hand, what constitutes knowledge? Who …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/23 01:56 PM
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Sure, agreed. However if you go back 25 years prior to the internet, these individuals who became pessimistic didn't continue to be pessimists simply because they found ways out of it. In today's internet age and deadly online algorithms, these people are finding each other and the misery is compounded further and they become ever more stuck in their ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/23 01:34 PM
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Isn't this all relative? The Western man will be seen as king in the eyes of someone living in a far corner of the world who has nothing. Yet the Western man is seeing himself as a victim of his nature and environment. Personally speaking, the Western man is highly privileged. It's just that he wants it all on a plate without wanting to work for it. He believes he has the right and entitlement to his desires without moving a finger. If a person wants anything bad enough, he will do anything to g…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/23 01:31 PM
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Except from the outside looking in, you'll be seen as someone who has put himself further back than someone who is living and loving life with his hope, and innocence and wonder intact.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/23 10:28 AM
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Except a lot of these men are black pill disguised as red. That's why the height and looks issue keeps cropping up and has become center stage. These were merely observations in the red pill especially height
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/23 10:10 AM
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Well isn't that what these nice guys want to become? Makes sense
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/23 10:08 AM
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But I'm doing it through a lense of hope and honesty. Like you, I have my own life story. If all I can do is to rely on my experience to decipher what's going on, then I'd expect a response to come back in discussing the whys and the how's of solving the issue instead of a finger pointing exercise
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/23 10:01 AM
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See now we have to get into the nitty gritty details of the kind of women you dated, who you are as a person, and beliefs etc etc. So it isn't one size fits all situation. But I fully appreciate the situation you've ended up in
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/23 09:59 AM
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I mean your own response was "women are probably more visually driven" That kind of comment is a halfway house to nowhere. How is this a confirmation?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/23 09:57 AM
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I'm seeing a very disturbing pattern emerge amongst you young men. I've never seen this level of pessimism. But then again, if you are surrounded by like minded individuals with similar predicaments as yourself, then it's a crabs in a bucket situation. Life doesn't work the way you described it. And the reason is because you haven't lived life. You are just assuming based on a set of beliefs that has been cast on to you from whatever you read and internalised.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/23 05:02 AM
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Ok sure I'll respond in kind. If you are unhappy with the state of things as they stand in your life, do something about it. That means at least you're taking action instead of just complaining and doing nothing else so kudos to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/23 04:41 AM
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Well you're allowed to speak your mind, and it's good that you did. Several things to mention here. You touched on it already, the world owes us nothing. That right there tells you just how fucking brutal the world can be. But if we take that belief and we run with it, it'll make us realise that we have a place in this world just like everyone else. It's just that the majority of us don't know our self worth in order to translate it into something meaningful in life. Instead we're led down the w…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/23 12:43 AM
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Either you don't get it or don't want to get it. You are NOT going to be working hard for women. You are going to be working hard on yourself for yourself. When you do this, pathways will open for you. But you see, your negative response is exactly what I'd expect in someone who's swallowed the pill. I even mentioned it. What you just said was spoken from a perspective of zero hope. Who on this earth would want to be around a person with no hope?...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/23 12:25 AM
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I don't understand this. Women are not walking around thinking that they are an amazing catch. There are beautiful women who lack confidence and always end up with the wrong kind of guy. There are women who have hardly had a guy look at her because she's 'average' looking yet she would give her soul to the first guy that does. I feel like your response is akin to painting all the women with the same brush and then saying "look they're all the same"
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/23 12:20 AM
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I understand your point of view but please consider that the young men who swallow these pills are unaware of the sheer untold damage that they are doing to themselves until when they realise much later by which point their youth is gone and they are left clamouring to hold on to what little they have. That right there is the real issue. I should know. I'm an ex red piller who had to work very hard to undo the damage.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/23 12:07 AM
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What I find interesting in these new red pill men is that they cannot see the error of their ways. For example they go through trying to improve themselves in order to get the attention of women rather than to improve themselves for what they want to see in themselves. How is that "alpha" exactly? That's beta behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/23 12:04 AM
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See here's the thing. There may be truth to what you say. The less attractive man will need to work harder. But therein lies the truth. He HAS to WORK. Yet when we see these red pill and black pill men refuse to put in the work yet feel entitled to their desires, it creates a situation of zero movement or progress. They don't realise that the hard work they need to put in is actually what will turn them into real men. Yes, things will come easy for the more attractive guy, but he won't have the …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 10:43 PM
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It's the same thing the other way round with posts which looks like straight propaganda. There was one recently about women of Afghanistan which was utterly abhorrent.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 07:27 PM
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It's almost as if all these posts are made by kids without any experience of life
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 07:18 PM
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End of thread and post. Next.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 02:41 PM
2

Is that a bad thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 02:37 PM
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Because it would take you a billion lifetimes to understand the real intricate nature of life and every single person in it. Yet when you swallowed the red pill, you went about labelling everything with the same brush and that only leads to your own downfall and misery that you are now in. Think about how you see and feel about anyone who is a Mormon or a Scientologist or any other religion or cult. Now think about whether you're any different. You have a narrow viewpoint of life. And that can o…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 11:36 AM
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Nah you fucked yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 07:48 AM
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The people who give that sort of advice are grifters like Anal Taint. But this is nothing new. Go back 25 years and we had Cosmopolitan magazine telling women all sorts of shit that would apparently "turn him on" It's just for the new age crowd.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 10:01 PM
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You won't find happiness because you killed it when you went into the red pill. You killed hope and wonder. Gonna take you years to get it back.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 09:58 PM
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She's the mother of your child. Are you going to dump her? What about the kid?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 09:55 PM
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All women?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 09:51 PM
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Yea I gathered that. These are black pill boys acting as red pill. It's all quite sad to me to be honest. We only have one life yet these folks have decided to spend their life this way and are blaming women, society and Chad himself for their issues, whilst taking no initiative to on improve.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 08:17 PM
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But no one here is doing anything to become chad. They're all complaining here and playing victim. How is that progress?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 08:10 PM
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What motivation? The majority here congregate to shit on women with all the misogyny and anger of having their chances diminished by hypergamy this, feminism that, and on and on. How is that motivation?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 08:09 PM
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Doesn't that get boring? How long is the guy going to do that? Right into his 60's?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 08:07 PM
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I see. What is misogyny to you which is considered normal and acceptable?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 08:05 PM
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This sounds like a far fetched fantasy. You'd be very hard pressed to find this in the real world. Plus if cheating is the result and not the cause, what is the cause?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 08:05 PM
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Does that involve being misogynistic towards women?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 07:59 PM
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Well that's what I was alluding to, but in a forum like this where these young men keep using right wing tropes and words like Chad (country in Africa as far as I'm concerned), it feels like they are creating more steps than necessary to accomplish the same task. A bit like that Rick and Morty meme
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 07:57 PM
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Hmm how could the red pill man and his young beautiful zero n count woman be in a dead bedroom situation? It seems to me that men who constantly cheat on their SO, seem to get undying loyalty and attraction from the woman So forever is a good guess Back to this. Is cheating the answer?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 07:47 PM
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But true love means you don't need to be 'Chad' - you just need to reciprocate the love back to your partner who has chosen you to spend their life with, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 07:44 PM
2

So what is the red pill for then?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 07:43 PM
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First, not capitalism, obviously. Second, women marry up. Always and everywhere. Statistically. So we need to beef up what up means for men. This means that we need to grant men power in the form of symbolic capital. Isn't women marrying up meaning hypergamy? The objective is not to diminish women, but to put men in a position where they can be seen as attractive. How would a man be seen as attractive? Through character traits or through professions? Basic Income in the age of AI will be a reali…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 07:41 PM
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So cheating is the answer? How much is the woman lacking in self worth and self respect to do such a thing? Or does that not matter so long as she's young, beautiful, zero n count etc.?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 07:27 PM
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I see. So if a couple have been together for say 10 years and she comes out with 'not tonight honey' does that mean she's not attracted and no other possible reason? Plus would that mean they should end it based solely on lack of attraction?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 07:20 PM
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Isn't that what love is?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 07:15 PM
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Do all women in all age ranges call a an ugly confident guy as creepy?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 06:55 PM
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Interesting question. Isn't this where some guys want to 'looksmax' to the point of surgery? Wonder what women would think if they knew a guy changed his looks like nose, jaw etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 06:53 PM
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When I see a young girl have blow up doll lips, I scream inside. I then realise that the young girl has some mental health and insecurity issues. I just feel sad overall.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 06:52 PM
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So what would you suggest? And what would the right society look like?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 06:49 PM
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Sounds like so much hard work for little payout. How long must the man act like a chad?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 06:44 PM
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Maybe have greater communication between the two people to figure out why the situation has resulted to 'not tonight honey' It can go both ways. The guy could be the one saying something similar.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 06:41 PM
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Yea exactly. These young men have very naive understanding since they have not been in full fledged relationships so their views are not well nuanced.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 06:40 PM
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No fam let the Normal person live they life. Freebird. Too many places they've got to see. If you're not depressed while your wife is, would you leave her as per your sentence above
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 06:38 PM
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lolwut. I'm not the one in pain or misery. So one of us is doing something right
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 05:58 PM
-1

? I basically wrote that black pill folk think that if you don't have the right height then "it's over"- you are basically agreeing with me no?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 03:13 PM
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Even if they are the mother of your child?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 03:12 PM
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Chef's kiss 😙👌🏻 to this response, which is rightfully at the top.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 12:23 PM
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The one thing that I have noticed is how the manosphere and right wing tropes cross over as if 2 Venn diagrams blended into one. Just the word "divorce rape" alone should let anyone know what kind of person uses it. Throw in all the other right wing terms like soyboy, beta, cuck, etc. and you can see where things are headed. These men can't think for themselves and are empowered by these right wing tropes. Same goes for the red pill derogatory terms. Do women have similar terminology for men? I …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 12:19 PM
1

I too felt invincible in my teens and 20's :)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 11:02 AM
1

How old are you? Do you know what naturally happens to the body at 40 whether you are male or female?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 10:36 AM
1

Want my pill recommendation?... If anyone has swallowed the red pill, blue pill, black pill, they are full of shit and need to take a suppository pill. I find all these "pills" utterly fucking stupid. Like how could someone take a complexity like life and then subset it into a pill? Besides a lot of red pill men here are black pilled boys in disguise. Purge week showed that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 10:30 AM
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Did you miss purge week? I envy you if you did. It was a shitshow. Every other post on here is about height. That indicates the person is black pilled. Height is an observation in the red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 10:27 AM
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Preach!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 10:24 AM
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You place more importance on how she looks physically than her mental health. What does that say about you?...
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 10:08 AM
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And yet the majority here portray signs and symptoms!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 10:07 AM
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I asked about post natal chronic depression. Why are people here refusing to talk about depression?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 07:57 AM
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Ever heard of something called 'love'? Besides she started late into the world of law. When we met in our late 20's she was still studying. At that point I was earning more than her. We had each others' backs. Ah you kids always trying to say anything to fulfill your confirmation bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 07:55 AM
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Thank you for the links. I've read the first one with the data it's linking to. The second one is far better nuanced however will take time to read. Several things caught my eye in the first article The findings reveal that despite more women entering the workplace, the pressure on husbands to be breadwinners largely remains Don't a lot of red pill men in this sub want to be the sole breadwinner while the wife is a work-at-home mum? Isn't this asking for trouble? In addition to upping the chance…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 12:00 AM
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More power to your old man! To pick oneself back up after trauma and to carry on without a single whimper where they are able to control it is one of the greatest strengths anyone can have. It gives them so much value in the eyes of others. What these young men don't realise is just how unattractive they are not because of their looks, but because of their attitudes, lack of modesty, lack of self introspection, lack of empathy, and so many others I could name.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 11:42 PM
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Preach! The victim complex usually goes away as we grow. However in this day and age where one becomes indoctrinated and brainwashed by a cult like the red pill (let's face it, it's a damn cult) then climbing out becomes doubly difficult, and furthermore, the victim complex is actually celebrated. It's a common trait in narcissism, which is one of the facets of the dark triad. The other 2 being Machiavellianism and psychopathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 11:30 PM
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Hmm. It seems to me that you refuse to see your own fallacy here. How is my 'personal experience' irrelevant and an anecdote, yet you then go on to say exactly the very same thing as me? You "heard" other stories. Can you see the double standard and the hypocrisy here? I'm puzzled as to how you operate logic in this situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 11:24 PM
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Which statistics? From which country? From which age group? From which time? If a person has depression, exercise alone is not going to cut it. Plus we're not talking just some short term depression. I'm talking chronic. Post natal depression can become chronic if untreated.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 11:17 PM
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It's an incel fantasy. It's why they want to go for 18 year old girls who have no bark or bite compared to an older woman who has life experience and can sniff out these men from a mile off. They would probably go for even younger if they could.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 11:12 PM
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lol imagine getting downvoted for talking about depression. These young men are too far gone.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 11:09 PM
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many women leave their long term partners when they let themselves go in one way or another. But as per above, you were so adamant and so sure in your belief that women leave their men in scenarios like mine? I have no reason to make up a story. I cannot afford the time to waste on selling a lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 11:07 PM
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There's no resilience in the new red/black pill movement that has swallowed up so many young men. These men can't get back up after the first knockdown. There's no capacity for learning. Instead there's bags of victim complex and entitlement. It's why they suffer so much. They're stuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 11:02 PM
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Don't you think you are limiting yourself with this belief system? If you look at my posts you'll see that I'm 40 male and married for 10 years. I had a horrifically bad time with depression and bad health in the last 8 years. Came out of nowhere. My partner and I met when we were in our late 20's. She's a lawyer and earns twice what I earn. We're both "average" looking to society yet to each other, we're each others' world. So why didn't she leave me? I thought that based on this comment trail,…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 10:53 PM
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I used the example of putting on weight due to pregnancy and complications for exactly this reason. So what you're saying is despite raising a child with this woman as well as being with her for 5 years+, if she gets fat, then that justifies walking away? I could have sworn so many of you red pill men were all up in arms about how you look down on single mothers who get impregnated and here you are doing the same as those men and walking away. What gives?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 10:39 PM
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Effort for what? Sex? If she's got depression after 5 years of being with the guy, should he just dump her?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 10:35 PM
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Why would you do that? For what reason?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 10:26 PM
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Yea we all have to start somewhere. As a youngster I took movie tropes as my go to method lol. I'm 40 now and look back and laugh and cringe in equal amounts. But it worked! But I feel really sad for the youth of today especially those who are fully into the red pill. Instead of going out there to talk to girls their age and expand their understanding, ther spend their time online, and end up getting indoctrinated by toxic beliefs like how anything less than being 6'4" is a death sentence appare…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 10:00 PM
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I'm 40 male, I have several female colleagues at work and they are all in their 50’s or late 40's and they are such a blast to be around. They have bags of experience in life as well as knowledge of the job that helps me immensely in shadowing these individuals. In contrast, the younger women who are good looking are so unbelievably shallow and conversations with these women are like drawing blood from a rock. And it has nothing to do with looks. It's about the age gap and the disparity between …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 09:45 PM
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Why is her shape more important than her depression which caused the weight gain in the first place? Edit: Spellings
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 09:39 PM
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If she puts on weight from things such as complications from giving birth or has depression after say being with you for 5 years+ from whatever event in life, what would you do?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 09:35 PM
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You know full well that what you just said is essentially dodging the issue because there is going to be no change. The whole of the red pill movement is operating under the premise of AWALT and yet here we are discussing and disseminating and dissecting AWALT's true meaning. It does a whole lot of damage to those who read the red pill doctrine of which I was one 20 years ago. It fucked me up for far too long. I lost a lot of time to it because it became a cornerstone of my belief system, anchor…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 05:05 PM
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Yea it was very far fetched and should have been taken down by mods as it's incredibly inhumane in what the OP is saying about Afghan women who are suffering terribly due to oppression from the Taliban. He applied his Western beliefs to a totally different part of the world that further diminished the value of those women who are suffering terribly. As others have stated, the OP is either a bonafide troll or an incel beyond help.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 04:21 PM
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My post? The post I'm responding to? Or the OP?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 04:04 PM
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My sincere apologies. I just re-read your comment and saw that you wrote 'they' and not 'I' and it all makes sense. I'll edit my comment accordingly.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 02:41 PM
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It depends on how you frame it. Plus it's dependent on age and experience. When I couldn't find a partner, I didn't get resentful at women for rejecting me. I saw it as an opportunity to improve myself. I went off and figured it out and saw it all as a challenge. I stayed true to myself and knew who I was and what/who I wanted in a partner. It was a journey of self discovery. Though this was 15 years ago. The landscape has drastically changed now and everyone is easily manipulated by many factor…
/r/ExRedPill16/01/23 01:54 PM
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Crabs in a bucket response right here👆🏻 Edit: Wrongly saw this as a personal attack comment. I fully retract this comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 01:33 PM
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Saw your pic. Saw your responses. Saw your logic in full play based on your comments and posts. This is all a problem of your own making inside your head. Notice how you only respond to negative comments as if it's a self fulfilling prophecy. You are seeking out these comments to further attribute to your current negative mindset, which is a fallacy at best. You move right past comments that say positive things about you. Learn to say thank you to the people who compliment you. Start complimenti…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 01:29 PM
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I'm a guy and I was making fun of how the majority of discussions end up in this sub. But since you've brought up my delusion, can you tell me what I should do to correct it?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 01:16 PM
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Swimming around in circles like Nemo?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 01:12 PM
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My original post was about misguided youth
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 12:58 PM
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And I'm saying: joining a cult like the red pill causes a man great mental health issues. Are you telling me that a young 16-25 year old guys should be spouting about hypergamy as if they are scholars in the field of female psychology? The problems run deep when you are part of a cult. How can I make that any clearer?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 12:44 PM
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If you said these things out loud in public, you'd get laughed out of the building. WTF kind of logic did you just use to justify what you just said? I'm going to guess you are very young. I don't even know where to start with your response.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 12:21 PM
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Ok to settle this question you asked let's play a game. Let's say you are a father and you have a 18 year old daughter. Would you let that guy above anywhere near your daughter? I'll wait for an answer. Let's see if you can use logic and reasoning on this one.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 12:16 PM
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You aren't 40 to say that. I am. If you don't look after yourself physically and mentally, you will suffer. Now look around you. All these young men frothing from the mouth and blaming women daily about "hypergamy" and all the other nonsense will have a very very bad time when they're older where they'll realise that they wasted their youth living in hate. So no. Not all men will fare well at 40 or beyond if they didn't do the hard work in their youth. Question is: are you one of these men I des…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 12:09 PM
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Isn't it amazing that these guys just can't see or refuse to use logic to see the other side of the same coin? How can they be so blind!?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 11:45 AM
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I've marked the OP as one of the most toxic people on here. I truly believe he's operating as a psy-op to keep the lost young red pill men in here going for a loop. There are several other serial posters who are similar like that eth_trader guy or whatever. His post is horrifically misguided and full of disinformation and misinformation.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 11:41 AM
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Red pill boys: "Yea but.. but all women hit the wall at 25! And like... AWALT!!1!1!!. Oh and something something cock carousel!"
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 11:33 AM
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Well you are just full of amazing knowledge aren't you lol. Why are you so desperate to get with a woman if you think about them like this??? I just don't get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 01:02 AM
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Common sense eh? You're 42 right? lol.... "Common sense"😂
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 01:00 AM
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What was it called before The Matrix movie came along, after which you kids called it "The Red Pill"?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 12:13 AM
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Your whole doctrine is a lie
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 12:09 AM
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It's too painful for these men to look within. Plus when you enter a cult it's a you vs the world mentality. After all, the red pill is a cult.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 12:02 AM
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Why call it AWALT then? Any unsuspecting young man getting exposed to the red pill will take the term at face value. It fucks them up.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 11:38 PM
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You seem so lost. Your profile is very scary.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 11:07 PM
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You have to go back to gamergate 12 years ago. That's where it all started.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 08:18 PM
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These pills are cults. Stay away.
/r/ExRedPill15/01/23 11:02 AM
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What if you are part of a cult that has twisted your view of the world to be just one perspective? What if there's no point in discussing anything with you because you have made up your mind in what you believe, and nothing will ever change that? See if you notice how you feel when you read what I put and let's see how you answer this.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 09:37 AM
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You expect some of those guys to actually speak to a woman?...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/23 10:37 PM
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Thanks for considering it but don't worry. I'd rather not hang around in a community devoid of any humanity. At least this place is better as there are level headed individuals who challenge these young men who seem so lost and full of rage.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/23 10:12 PM
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THANK YOU! Say it like it is! From the first day I set foot in this place after finding out about this sub as a result of getting banned from r/TheRedPill for apparently 'moralising' (fuck those pieces of shit on that sub) - it became instantly clear just how much "red pill" had changed since its original iteration 20+ years ago where men took responsibility for their actions and shortcomings. I'm 40 and an ex red piller. Having been part of the original TRP 1.0. it served its purpose for me at …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/23 09:59 PM
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Run. Run and don't look back.
/r/ExRedPill14/01/23 06:56 PM
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Check the OP's profile. He's the worst of the worst with his views on women. That's all you need to know.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/23 04:17 PM
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I'm with that poster. Those terms are fucking cringe. And I even hate using the word cringe. Fuck...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/23 04:31 PM
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Just sounds like you are unhappy based on the contents of your comments on top of the tone
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 10:06 PM
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Are you attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 09:23 PM
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I don't know. All your comments in your profile just seem very passive aggressive.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 08:38 PM
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I think you got the wrong end of the stick here. What point are you trying to make?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 06:40 PM
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So who would you have as your girl? Someone ugly?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 06:38 PM
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Go on? Beeeeecause?.... You can't just come into this thread and say that without reasoning yaknowww?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 06:37 PM
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I hear you. However would you say that going in the opposite direction is helpful? Such as trying to learn and deploying the dark arts of psychology on unsuspecting women?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 10:27 PM
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Mic drop. 👏🏼
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 09:59 PM
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This is a good take. Are we saying that real world experience trumps all else? If so, aren't we stuck in a catch 22 situation where we get lost in the realm of what comes first. Experience, or knowledge gained from reading on the subject matter such as the red pill?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 09:47 PM
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That's a fair outlook and explanation. Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 09:44 PM
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I used 'young men' for this exact reason due to emotions overruling logic at that age. As we age whilst experiencing life by putting ourselves out there, we gain logic and reasoning traits. Until then, we will continue to throw the dummy out of the pram.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 09:43 PM
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My wife earns double what I earn. She's a lawyer. We've been married 10 years. And she was earning double back from the start. We have never thought of it as some sort of competition and nor have we ever had any arguments over finances where she might have said that she's earning double etc. We don't have kids but if we did, we'd share the burden of raising a kid 50/50 because the belief of "breadwinner" is toxic as fuck in the modern age and leads to the so called breadwinner becoming jaded and…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 07:19 PM
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Not just women. Anyone. The original message I sent to the guy who I was warning the other user about was far more nuanced and had a trail of back and forth. You've come into this chat with your bravado and anger without knowing the full story. So chill out.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/23 05:25 PM
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That was along rant in order to say no. I thought you lot were all "alpha"? Plus what happens if (hypothetically speaking) your daughter was cornered. Would you also walk away in that situation?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/23 04:34 PM
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Do you notice how these guys move the goalposts when cornered? They should all become politicians.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/23 09:35 PM
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I wouldn't bother getting in a discussion with that person you responded to. Last time I asked them whether they would intervene if they saw a man attacking a woman in terms of rape, and they refused to answer. Says it all how they see women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/23 08:50 PM
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How about you give yourself an abundance of self love before you go out there to play these childish games?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/23 08:38 PM
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Ok sure I'll try. Long post incoming. There's a saying: "life begins at 40" - For the longest time I couldn't understand that saying. But now that I'm a 40 year old man, married for 10, I finally get it. The last 40 years were all tutorial mode years where I was learning my trade, applying my learning to every next step I was making. In my dating life, professional life, and personal life. I was making vast amounts of mistakes. As you can imagine when I was 15, I was scared to even look at a gir…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/23 08:29 PM
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You have to realise how these words affect the next young naive man who walks into the manosphere, all lost and frustrated. He'll read "AWALT" and will take it at face value. Poor guy doesn't have a chance at any happiness. And there's no one within the community to help him understand the meaning behind AWALT like you just described. It's crabs in a bucket all over again
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/23 06:33 PM
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So what about when you are say 30, and you bump into a 30 year old who is exactly the same as you but of the opposite sex? Does the "it's just your turn" saying still apply? That would be throwing away a good chance wouldn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/23 06:31 PM
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Basically, the kind of men who want younger girls are doing it as a form of control. Plus they don't have any experience in the case of the 25 year old above, so they want to get with someone who has no experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/23 10:39 AM
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So you believe in the whole jawline and wrist size and height thing to be real? That's your definition of real?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/23 10:25 AM
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Well said. Munchausen Syndrome and Munchausen by proxy.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/23 09:39 AM
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Oh absolutely. There's always going to be variables like the person's personally and intentions.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/23 09:14 AM
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Unflinchingly? Dude you're utterly miserable. Some of the people in your community wish rape on women. Some have killed! Those are the people you want to be associated with?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/23 06:21 AM
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Yea I am married. I just saw my spelling error. It was meant to say he not me. Corrected it. Oops
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/23 06:18 AM
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Red pill is a cult.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/23 01:30 AM
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If you lost hope, you'd see the world like he does. Hope is very fragile
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/23 01:28 AM
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I hate having to dissect life into red pill, blue pill, black pill, suppository pill nonesense. The damn term for red and blue pill comes from a movie from 24 years ago lol. How can anyone take that seriously at face value? Just call it life and its many layers. What's jarring for me personally is when I try to reason with someone, the age disparity is instantly on show. I'm 40 and I can instantly tell when I'm speaking to a young guy who hasn't experienced life yet, yet somehow they think they …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/23 01:24 AM
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This is the correct answer. However the unfortunate side to this answer is that any young red pill/black pill man reading this will have a bias confirmation towards things such as hypergamy, and how women want tall handsome men, while disqualifying themselves subconsciously, furthering their frustrating and thereby pointing the finger of blame at women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/23 01:15 AM
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Ooh I'm a white knight you say? That would make you a men's rights activist right? You might as well go ahead and call me simp at this point. Except you see all I did was show a little bit of reasoning and tried to raise awareness about the negatives of taking advantage of youth. Something that you refuse to acknowledge since all you want to do is to get what you believe is supposedly yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 11:56 PM
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Yea exactly. There are several serial posters on this sub that create posts that definitely feel like a psy-op propaganda. Their calculated wording and themes portray a sense of dread that the majority of us understand, but to a younger man, he will catastrophize the situation and will make it real in his mind without knowing any better. Then there's all the horrid YouTubers and algorithms that are causing damage.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 11:45 PM
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Ah you mean game in that sense. Well yes of course. We aren't spiting each other. It's done from the perspective of rapport and respect and plenty of love. We're just very comfortable in having these jokes. You seem pretty level headed and I mistook the situation as the opposite, so my apologies. You forget who you'll bump into in this forum sometimes instead of the usual young man who is angry at the world. And indeed same as you, I'm the happiest I've been due to having worked on myself to get…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 10:57 PM
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Why would I need game? We're comfortable in each others' company. I don't have ulterior motives and nor does she. I don't conform to any sort of pill where I have to preach and live by some shitty rules that only limits me and makes me feel miserable. And for what purpose exactly? Who am I getting the respect of, if there's such a thing. I choose to live in reality. As for the young women part, you misconstrued my point by quite a margin. For example do you see Leonardo Di Caprio as your role mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 10:37 PM
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But I fawn at Ana De Armas. Is that derogatory to my wife? Let's make sure we look at both sides. Young women have a shot only and only if those stars are the kind of people who want to target a young woman. At which point society has its say about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 10:19 PM
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So my wife and I have been happily married for 10 years. She is 42, I'm 40. She fawns over the several superstars she sees in different shows or movies like Brad Pitt and George Clooney as well as some younger than her like Timothy Chalamet etc. Does that mean she is choosing them ahead of me? No not at all. Is it derogatory to me? No not at all. Why? Because there are several levels of thinking behind it. These people she fawns over are not normal people in society. They operate in the echelons…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 10:10 PM
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Not really. The only person it affects is you. It narrows your chances. And time waits for no man. So that right there is a wall for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 10:01 PM
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This is the same for autism and other neurodivergent issues which are 3:1 in men compared to women. Reason being that when the diagnosis is made, the men are young and have no choice in getting diagnosed. (10 years of age due to symptoms) Meanwhile girls have a greater ability for socialisation and therefore their autism is missed due to being masked unless the autism is severe.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 09:59 PM
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Good question
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 09:55 PM
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Hmm I feel the red pill sells men the vision of the kind of life they crave, which is an end-goal image of how things could turn out. What it doesn't do is to guide men beyond showing them that vision. There are no real goalposts to that success. Instead they get sold supposed truths about the 'real world' - this causes a whole lot of men to become stuck in the anger phase, as found in this forum. Many years go by and these men lose their youths to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 09:52 PM
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Yea exactly. Now tell that to a guy in here who has been deeply indoctrinated. It's a futile endeavour.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 09:47 PM
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I was in agreement with you until you uses the derogatory term of the wall lol. Same old same old.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 09:46 PM
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Indeed it's similar for men and women based on other external factors that start up. Such as having a kid instantly means both parties are tied up and their freedoms disappear. That alone adds years onto men and women's looks over a short period of time. But you'll definitely find men and women who look good for their age. They are usually high flyers in other parts of their life. High self confidence, contentment and self worth as well as careers.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 09:44 PM
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She hasn't formed the kind of thinking where she can go down a flowchart thought process where she can connect the dots to the whys or the why nots. She will be thinking emotionally instead of logically with reason. Youth and naivety has no bite or depth. And they are ripe pickings to the dark arts that men deploy
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 09:27 PM
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Yea this. State your intentions and don't string along the young person with some nonesense manipulation tactics.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 09:24 PM
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If you take care of yourself, the gap in looks and health is minimal between 30 and 40. I'm using an extreme example when I mention Christiano Ronaldo, but you can see how he has prolonged everything due to the hard work he's put in. So if an average person maintains even 1/5th of his level, he will be ahead of a lot of men who let go at that age. And that's just talking about looks. Older guys have far greater experience and knowledge. That alone gives him great value.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 09:22 PM
2

Are you the opposite of all these things?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 09:19 PM
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Oh come on now. This is strawman and moving goalposts. In your example, do women cross the road in broad daylight when there are other people about? Or is it to be expected on a quiet dark night? In which case she is simply evaluating her safety. It's contextual. As for the racist example again, contextual. Suppose you saw a guy acting suspicious on a dark night, and you saw a woman walking towards him, at which point, the suspicious man attacked the woman, what would you do? Would you help her?…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 09:11 PM
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As much as the left wants to believe there is an "alt right/red pill pipeline" where these young men are being recruited into red pill spaces, I haven't seen any evidence that this is true. Words like cuck, soyboy, beta, simp, etc are all right wing tropes. These young men spout this stuff as a form of empowerment. Normal, well adjusted men aren't going onto the internet typing in "why won't women date me". These men are finding red pill all on their own without any help from anyone. My belief i…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 08:58 PM
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So women say AMALT? If I saw any women spout something like "all men are bastards", I'd run in the opposite direction or I'd confront them to ask them if they truly meant that and to try and reason with them on why they said such a thing
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 08:49 PM
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So why do some men have low value? That's how nature selects. It's ruthless. Grow up! So if nature is ruthless, is it futile to even try? (By the way I don't believe nature to be ruthless because the very nature of how every single one of us living today hold our existence to our ancestors of the past. For example if we go back in time just 500 years ago, our great ancestors had it so much worse in terms of survival. They had to overcome famine, wars, plagues, natural disasters and so on. And ye…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 08:46 PM
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Good answer. I just wanted to make sure the real red pillers are in here instead of the constant misogyny and lack of understanding from these young men
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 08:34 PM
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What if she grows up and learns her lessons? Is she worthy then? Or will she be labelled as having a high n count or whatever
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 08:08 PM
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Um. Are you validating my point about the meaning of AWALT? Think about this one for a moment.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 07:57 PM
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Totally the wrong anecdote taken from my comment. So I'll try again. These young red pill men whom I call indoctrinated against normal life, have chosen to do nothing about their situation and instead act justified in their claims and have chosen to be misogynistic towards the beings of their very desires while playing the victim. I grew up before the era of internet algorithms that sends young unsuspecting men down the wrong paths. I was 16 in 2000, now 40. My main aim every time is that things…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 07:55 PM
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Did you forget what sub you are in?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 07:49 PM
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Troll post
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 07:48 PM
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It's all he needs to feel vindicated in his beliefs and is looking for validation from his comrades.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 07:47 PM
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Bingo. It's that whole AWALT situation. If that's the case, then when one man rapes, therefore all men rape. Now let's watch these men come to their own defence for being called rapists.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 07:46 PM
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Yes. That's a given. But looks is not the be all and end all of the whole picture. That's the part where so many men here refuse to accept. Looks is just one trait in thousands. It's just one piece of a very complex puzzle And then to fight against this notion, so many goalposts have been created by these mislead men. Such as if a woman is average looking, she apparently still has a higher n count or that since society has shifted, these average women still have it better than the guys. Isn't th…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 07:38 PM
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Thank you for your eloquently put answer. My issue with looks and why it doesn't matter is that as we grow, looks take a huge backseat. You learn this by the age of 30 in most cases. But if a young man gets indoctrinated by cults like the red pill then they are put further back before they have even started out in life, making them believe that looks is all that matters. I'm 40 and when I was 16, looks was all the rage as you'd expect. But I didn't have social media and online rabbit holes to le…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 07:31 PM
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That's a very good point. Isn't that cowardly from these guys and totally hypocritical? One of my main issues is that their words online can easily indoctrinate youngsters who are unaware of how the world works whatsoever. We'd hope it's just a phase for those young men. But having seen a 38 year old friend of mine go head first deep into the online right wing world of racism, misogyny, transphobia and homophobia, it showed me just how bad things can get online.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 07:19 PM
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Yes, there are those girls who choose the guys they are attracted to. But the moment you speak about guys from the perspective of being red pilled men, they are NOT attractive. And I don't mean looks wise. I'm talking character and personality. These guys proudly state that they practice the dark triad of psychology to manipulate and get with young women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 07:04 PM
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So what are the other reasons if it's not manipulation. I'll wait.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 07:01 PM
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The whole SMV and every other terminology that the red pill employs are very limiting to the person who preaches them. Life is not black and white. It is a thousand shades of grey. But tell that to these radicalised men
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 06:45 PM
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That's quite a big assumption no? I care which is why I'm always in this sub asking questions. Plus if you have it figured out, you would be happy and wouldn't need to still have the negative stance that you have against women..
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 06:43 PM
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lol how is this comment top? It's a psy-op all day long. I'm a guy, and to fight this nonsense and to restore common sense, I'll say the following: I've always said that a 30+ years old guy trying to get with a 18-20 year old woman is predatory. And I've mentioned every time why. Which is that it is a form of grooming and preying on an inexperienced young woman who doesn't have the ability to see the dangers until it's too late, by which point she will be used and abused. I know these men know t…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 06:36 PM
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This is a troll account. Look at his other comments. I'd go as far as to say this is a psy-ops account
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 06:28 PM
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Surely these women change as they grow? The woman in the video seems quite young and inexperienced.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 06:01 PM
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Not sure how that's answering the AWALT question.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 05:28 PM
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Is it locked? I can't tell
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 05:28 PM
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Is there any possibility that the men who think this way were possibly radicalised and brainwashed against their best interests?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 05:27 PM
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Well I'm questioning the real value of whether AWALT is real and whether it's backed up by facts or not. I am happy to give my point of view on why AWALT is real or not. I'm interested in whether you truly believe in AWALT, and the data to back it up. Edit: no answer. No surprises there.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 05:23 PM
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So with point 1, the question being asked is: if she isn't high value, then what is in terms of a woman, and furthermore, can these red pill men obtain such a high value woman? And with point 2, the question is: is the red pill hurting men by placing all these terminologies on women that locks out the young men and sends them down the wrong path on top of no advice being given to these young men by other red pillers. It just feels like a every man for himself bubble.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 05:20 PM
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Oh I thought the red pill did? What is she then? Plus if she isn't high value, what is considered a high value woman? And furthermore, can the red pill men here obtain such a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 05:15 PM
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So red pill men are intelligent enough to know it's not ALL women, but no one can be bothered to change the terminology, or teach it to the young men who come into the red pill to understand, who then think ALL women are like that? Does this community help its younger members or is it every man for himself, despite reading from the same hymn sheet?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 05:14 PM
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So why do some men have low value? Who says so? Surely by virtue of being a male makes him high value if red pill is to be believed?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 05:11 PM
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So should it be EWALT and EMALT? Edit: a downvote for my troubles and no answer given lol. This community...lol
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 05:05 PM
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So have you done anything to make your life better?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 05:03 PM
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Do you know why I say the things I do? It's quite simple... I'm happy. You folks are not. And that feeling, my boy, cannot be bought. You live in misery. Even depressed, might I add. I on the other hand, as a simple average guy, i am happy because I didn't swallow the red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 01:33 AM
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I truly implore you to go out and see the real world. Your life is what you make it. And right now you are choosing misery
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 01:09 AM
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So the whole of your dating life is dictated by tinder profiles? I'll ask again. Which 6'+ guy is going to settle for these women? Chads? This is called moving the goalposts.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 01:06 AM
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Which women want taller guys? ALL of them? Are you telling me that a 5'3 woman wants a 6'4 guy? The disparity simply does not work out. The tall guy will not want to be with someone that short. He would want a woman similar to his height. In other words, the short 5'3 woman will happily get with a 5'5 guy. That means most short guys suddenly qualify. But most of you black pilled guys push the height nonesense to such extremes due to your lack of understanding and deliberate moving of goal posts.…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 12:47 AM
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Troll post for sure. Like the rest of your nonsense. I don't know why the mods don't delete your posts.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 12:39 AM
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Just read another post of his where he says his age is 33. So definitely a youngster. This is all so sad
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 11:55 PM
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Yup he was definitely young and I'm guessing it was a troll post due to the nature of the post and exaggerations.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 11:53 PM
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Please get educated
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 11:49 PM
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Narrator: this comment kills the red/black pilled boys
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 11:34 PM
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He's apparently 43
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 11:21 PM
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I'll take your answer at face value. So what you're saying is that you have lived for 43 years and don't know much about things like vaginosis or infections?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 11:15 PM
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How old are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 10:54 PM
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So you believe this clown?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 10:48 PM
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LMFAO this comment right here. A lot of red pill men are feeling very embarrassed having to be labelled the same as this guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 10:36 PM
1

Are you a misogynist?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 10:25 PM
1

Yea those people are gaslighting
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 10:11 PM
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Are you ok there buddy? You sound quite too young to be spouting such things. It's quite telling from your spelling mistakes. Please go out sometimes to touch some grass.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 10:07 PM
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Oh look. Another propaganda post from this user in order to keep the lost young red pill men stuck in their negative loop. Sick of this shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 01:52 AM
1

This here is another person who has never touched a woman
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 01:48 AM
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This person has never touched a woman
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 01:47 AM
1

Or a culling of degenerates. Oops did I say that out loud?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 06:55 PM
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I was just asking about the same thing in another sub and looks like the data is skewed due to how women with autism have a greater way of integrating into society and socialising that it masks the diagnosis. I retract my original comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 06:43 PM
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What a sad state of living and a daft self inflicted wound
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 06:40 PM
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Do you guys go straight to women blaming every time? It's like it is etched in your DNA to derail any discussion and point the finger at women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 06:20 PM
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How so? If anything, women are more open to getting diagnosis. In another chat, the figures were skewed for depression due to under diagnosis of men's depression due to men not reporting their feelings
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 05:51 PM
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Oops I thought I linked it. Anyways here it is https://autism.org.uk/advice-and-guidance/what-is-autism/autistic-women-and-girls Various studies suggest that the ratio of autistic males to females ranges from 2:1 to 16:1. The most-up-to-date estimate is 3:1.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 03:54 PM
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You still haven't answered my question in another post on whether the rape of women is ok...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 03:46 PM
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Maybe more men have autism and haven't a clue about dating. Just one example among many. It's too complex to point a finger at the main reason. Edit: I retract the original comment above due to autism being under reported in women, as women themselves don't realise they have autism due to their ability to socialize, and therefore inadvertently masking autistic traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 03:40 PM
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Preach. Just look at my conversation in here with the guy who has zero self awareness about women and pregnancy. It's just above the automod post. It's terrifying
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 01:29 PM
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Hmm I see. What about if a man rapes a woman and she gets pregnant? Is it her fault? And this happens all over the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 01:27 PM
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So they're both called a soyboy?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 01:07 PM
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What about when a man and woman decide to have a child, but then the guy jumps ship, leaving her to bring up the child alone. Is it still her fault?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 01:06 PM
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Daddy Issues, Feminist, Unhappy and Unlucky, Competes with you, Keeps past men around, Bad with Money, Violent, Extreme Jealousy, Partying, Heavy Tattoos and piercings, High N count, Single mothers, Validation seeking, Sugar Baby, Pathological Liar, Baby Rabies, Hissy fits, Lies about Birth control, Drama queen, Addict Are single mothers hogwash?...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 12:57 PM
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It's a derogatory term for the kind of guy that they wish they were. So they put these androgynous men down
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 12:53 PM
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I'm sorry you've had to experience this. It's dehumanising and I feel things are only getting worse. And these cretins are also targeting others in society. There's a new derogatory term for normal people that is described as "NPC" meaning non playable character. Add words like cuck, soyboy, beta, and many other to that list. They don't realise how dangerous all these terms are. They are all part of the right wing trope ideology. But here's the irony as I've mentioned before. These same cretins …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 12:07 PM
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You make reasonable claims OP. However you are dealing with a radicalised group of young men here. The fact that they use the word "soyboy" tells you which community they belong to and how deep in their mess they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 08:47 AM
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Isn't it their issue to resolve though? For example certain men and women constantly go for the wrong people in relationships. Some break the cycle, others never really do.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 08:05 AM
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Totally. Reasoning, logic and emotional intelligence are now like gold dust.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 08:03 AM
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Absolutely. It's Plato's original teachings that Carl Jung took on for the new age. Thought it would help someone here to hear it in audiobook form.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 01:16 AM
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What you are trying to describe is about understanding archetypes. Archetypes are the umbrella term for a set of personality traits, made up of separate character traits. We all have thousands of traits both positive and negative that make up our overall personality. These traits are learned over time as we grow and experience life. But the river of life is unforgiving. If you haven't been brought up well, you'll most likely end up in places you didn't intend to be. If you have time, I highly re…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 12:43 AM
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Sure, I just wondered if you were willing to level the playing field rather than mentioning only women's red flags, yaknow?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 12:31 AM
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Yea that's fair. For me, I'm not sure I'd want to have a friend who cheats on the first place due to my stance about cheating. I guess it comes down to what each person values
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 12:27 AM
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Ah I see. You mean negative experiences that they don't learn from. Would this apply to both men and women?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 12:24 AM
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Do you know about a list of red flags of men?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 12:20 AM
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Not OP, but can you explain why this is a bad thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 12:17 AM
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If you knew your friend was cheating on his wife/girlfriend and she didn't know, would you keep quiet or would you intervene? Likewise, if your friend knew that your wife/girlfriend was cheating on you, would you hope they would have your back and tell you?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 12:15 AM
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As an example, say if your long term partner that you built your life with for the last 5 years cheated on you, would you stay with them? The betrayal is far too big for any form of reconciliation.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 12:04 AM
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Firstly your post might get deleted as you're seeking advice and this sub seems to be against that. Even my post may get deleted for giving advice. And when I do start to think I want one, I imagine every possible way it could go wrong. I could get into a relationship with some manipulative, toxic, a cheater, etc. If marriage happens then you can't avoid the possibility of its ugly sibling divorce and the potential of getting fucked in court. If kids came into play what are the chances that she'…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 11:55 PM
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Chad is a country in the continent of Africa.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 11:15 PM
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Haha I'm married also. At this age, the possibilities are endless in this current climate. Having a far greater awareness of the self through experience means you and I would be above the majority of these young men who are struggling to understand it all. All the best to you!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 09:52 PM
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