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I think people should do what they want with their body hair, and no one should be shamed for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 10:13 PM
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She could use that toy on my cock while she eats out my asshole. Or sits on my face. Or…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 02:22 PM
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You gotta have logins for the sites so you can save the videos that you like in advance. Game changer.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 01:41 PM
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Hot octopus pulse solo is pretty dope.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 01:27 PM
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You get excited and feel like you're doing awesome and want to make it even more awesome. It's a natural, instinctive reaction. So very guy needs to be told this at least once. I know it's dumb as hell but I am forever grateful to the girl who told me this.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 03:02 PM
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Where do you meet women? OLD or bars or what?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/21 10:53 AM
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The zizek debate was trash. He literally admitted to never having read Marx before preparing for the debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/21 10:42 AM
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https://news.stanford.edu/2019/08/21/online-dating-popular-way-u-s-couples-meet/
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/21 09:44 AM
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For dudes they could do something to radically change how women look at them. In the old days joining the army was a thing that transformed men. They could also go to a geo where their skin / wealth make them an attractive mate. For women maybe get a job in a heavily male industry (oil pipelines, software) or move somewhere with more men than women (North Dakota, Silicon Valley).
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/21 01:57 AM
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Your choice as always in this merry game we call life.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 07:32 PM
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Honestly living an Instagram worthy life is a great goal. The problem for me is that documenting it takes away from the enjoyment. But I think that’s a mindset shift that dudes need to make. And if that instagrammable life is with your bros then that is awesome.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 07:07 PM
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I think men need to invest weeks into the photos. It really needs to be a habit like it is with women where you get your friends to document you looking cool doing cool stuff, taking well framed pictures with high end phone cameras. Then archiving them and methodically picking the best ones, and keeping a feed on Instagram proving that your life is cool. It sounds absurd but is clearly necessary now.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 06:59 PM
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Yeah he is agreeing with you. He’s saying women naively think a man will put up with a dead bedroom.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 05:45 PM
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Redpill says to lift heavy and dress sharp. The only looks thing they ignore is plastic surgery.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 03:27 PM
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It doesn't matter. He'll be on to the next one by then anyway. The point is these guys are cornering the market on the swipe apps, not that they are gonna wife you up.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 01:05 PM
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Hot means tall, fit, socially popular. They might be a hipster or a banker depending on your subculture, but those are surface level differences.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 12:47 PM
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Is where you live dangerous? Or is it an instinctual thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 12:45 PM
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Why dangerous? Is it the Jordan Peterson "you can't be good unless you have the capacity to be bad" thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 12:33 PM
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Yes. I have been an accidental Chad a couple times in my life. It’s completely surreal, like the “Party World” thing from TRP 5 years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 07:43 PM
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They are married incels. We are lucky they aren’t killing themselves. Getting more in touch with their emotions is the last thing they need. What they probably need is a divorce honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 07:37 PM
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They're right there on tinder. As long as you are OK with a Tuesday afternoon timeslot you can get dicked down by a hot guy who doesn't give a shit about you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 03:58 PM
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I mean from a long term relationship perspective that has to happen right? Sex ratio is 50/50. From what I can tell swipe apps have gone from a niche to completely dominant over last 4 years, accelerated by the pandemic. I do think many women want a monogamous relationship with the 10/10 boys they find on Tinder, and are using sex as the bait. It probably works sometimes but again mathematically it can only work for a few.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 01:20 PM
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But that doesn't match what EVERYONE says about swipe apps: that only the top 10% of men get any action.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 01:05 PM
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DAILY MAIL LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 01:03 PM
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Yup that's definitely the conclusion. In theory it should be easy: Americans are obese AF, so being top 10% physically should be trivial. In practice the men in big city dating markets are all lifting, and many of them are using steroids. However many men still under-invest in photography for unknown (cultural?) reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 12:56 PM
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My wife was trying to argue that this was sexism the other day. It’s like they don’t understand capitalism or their own decisions within it. We went shopping and I showed her how the really fashionable men’s pants also have crap pockets.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 10:15 AM
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Yeah even with a lower libido, a perfect 10 delivered to your house in an hour is a pretty hard proposition to say “no” to.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 09:31 AM
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There is data on this. Online + “in a bar” (which is often a sly way of saying online) is a majority way of meeting and getting bigger every year. Pandemic has supercharged this effect. I can’t find the chart because I’m on mobile but someone shares it every month on this sub. I’m pretty sure I’ve seen articles about the nightclub industry taking a hit but I can’t swear to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 12:42 AM
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What do you mean by “found”?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 12:18 AM
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The girl in #2 scenario will be inundated by hot guys: she will do the rational thing and pick the guys who seem most attractive. Once she starts dating them she will have to put out to stay in the running, since that guy has several girls in rotation. They might date for a few months officially, but he’s banging other girls the whole time. It sucks for the girls, the only one who really benefits is the top guys who are cleaning up.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 11:56 PM
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Online dating is the primary way of dating, and it IS hookup culture. Girls pick the top guys, and put out so they can have a chance at a relationship with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 11:39 PM
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Compared to the 50s yes. Compared to the 90s: depends how hot u are. Top guys have it way better, other guys have it way worse. It is what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 11:31 PM
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Yes once they hit 30 assortive mixing comes in. Most guys would be ok with the whole thing if they didn’t suspect they were walking into a dead bedroom by wifeing up a woman who just spent a decade banging hotter dudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 11:29 PM
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You used to have to just have a stable job to get a relationship. Now you have to have 6 pack abs and be photogenic. Which is harder? The majority of dudes will just never be hot enough to get chosen on a swipe app.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 11:07 PM
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They give it out like candy to a select top 5% group of men. The other 95% are waiting around and well certainly be interested in commitment when the girls are done with their fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 11:04 PM
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I mean good for your boyfriend I guess. I own a fancy fast car and it's a pain in the ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 09:43 PM
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fair
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 07:11 PM
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And people harass you about this?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 05:53 PM
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It's kinda dead now and the guys seem angry and unsuccessful. Like they work so hard to make their wives fuck them it's sad. Not judging I'm just as un-fucked but it's sad to read.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 05:26 PM
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Men want the best a woman can give if they are going to commit to her. That means any sex acts she did regularly with other dudes in the past. That means being receptive to exploring kinks and trying to keep things fresh. That means being committed to making him feel like he has explored the sexual world enough, the way women get to. If she is not willing to do sex acts she has done with other men, she is saying “I don’t need to give you as much as I gave other men. Because I’m not afraid you wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 03:54 PM
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How are your preferences invalidated by society?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 03:46 PM
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Dude I’ve owned fancy cars. It gets old real fast. Unless you are dating and using it as a prop many people have downgraded to a Corolla and been happier.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 12:06 PM
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Yeah u right
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 11:30 AM
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I agree that a dude with a rich social life should be able to find other ways to be happy. It’s just we have become isolated as a society. Many people don’t have strong friend groups.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 11:25 AM
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FKK therapy for incels is kind of a genius idea. Even better than my Thailand idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 11:22 AM
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It is very hard for a healthy male to be happy without sexual fulfillment. The same people who tell him to find happiness elsewhere will mock him for being sexually unsuccessful. We are social creatures we don’t exist in a vaccum.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 11:06 AM
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Internet is not real life. There are many things people can’t say in real life (especially men). It all comes out here and it can sound a bit shocking. Men are just mad women have so much sexual/relationship leverage nowadays. They feel strongly judged and jealous and denied. That’s where the negativity is coming from.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 11:00 AM
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People are always gonna be mad about something. This sounds like internet debate disease. You shouldn’t be worried about opinions so controversial that they can only be shared on anon chat rooms. The situation is that everyone is allowed to have standards for who they date.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 10:48 AM
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Ok King. Best of luck, remember that you are heckin’ valid!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 10:45 AM
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Who shamed you for not wanting to date a criminal or a John? That’s the norm, most women think that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 10:37 AM
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What about anal tho
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 10:32 AM
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Right but what about having hot young sex workers pestering you all day for sex. And wanting to spend all day with you afterwards and you have to turn them down because there’s other fun stuff you want to do. If you put yourself in a position where you are literally drowning in pussy it will reframe it’s value in your eyes. It’s just a slimy fuck hole that feels really good on your peepee. There are 4 billion of them in the world, they aren’t rare or special.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 10:28 AM
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Short women have short sons duh.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 10:24 AM
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That’s sexual selection. It’s the sibling concept to natural selection, and was also discovered by Darwin. Happens in most animals that reproduce sexually. Is a way of removing mutations from the gene pool before they rise to the level that they would effect survival (natural selection). It only happens on the male side because eggs are expensive.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 10:17 AM
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Bald and weak chin are both easy to fix. If in fact chin surgery is one of the highest ROI plastic surgeries for a male.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 10:12 AM
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Can you go to Thailand for a couple of weeks? Might reboot your brain.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 10:10 AM
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There was a Sopranos episode about this (word got out that Uncle Junior ate pussy and he had to dump his Goomar of 20 years to save face)/
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 02:00 AM
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Oh got I've got a nephew who was freshman last year and it was so bad. He didn't party or meet people at all. The worst part is even this year everyone is making such a big deal about protecting healthy 19 year olds from getting COVID. It's going to cause a lifetime of problems for these kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 08:33 PM
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I think dating apps are really shoving it in people’s faces. It was easy to ignore when online dating was niche but with the pandemic it became basically the only way to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 08:00 PM
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Anyone notice that the 80/20 concept is becoming more mainstream? I'm seeing it brought up in every advice thread for guys in /r/dating and /r/dating_advice , especially ones that talk about app dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 07:03 PM
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God I completely rely on my wife for this.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 06:55 PM
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Men aren't vending machines that you put sex coins into until you get a marriage. No one is entitled to a marriage with a particular person.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 06:02 PM
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Women order men off tinder like they are a pizza. They have just as high a sex drive as men if the guy checks all their boxes physically.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 04:25 PM
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It takes you an hour to see another dude. FWB for women is like prostitutes for men: it’s a time slot for sex, not a date.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 04:07 PM
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Free market failure can’t be fixed by individuals is a very powerful concept. We are all trapped in a system. You can make individual choices but other players will judge you on the basis of expected behavior in the system. A girl can make every guy wait exactly 5 dates. In my view, in the abstract, this would be a great way for society to be. As it is now, most men will assume she’s fucking other guys while making him wait. Her individual policy that she applies consistently doesn’t work.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 02:14 PM
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Watch what they do, not what they say is always an excellent rule. People are bad at seeing the systems they are living in and are bad at introspection. And are happy to be hypocrites when it suits them. Out of curiosity did you try using oral/handjobs to “bridge the gap”? Or were you holding the line at making out?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 10:46 AM
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Not TMI at all. A lot of women give it as a consolation prize tho. Also a lot of women are really bad at it (which is fair it is quite hard to give proper blowjobs).
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 10:40 AM
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Do you see a difference between oral / handjobs and penetrative sex? That can be one way to split the difference. Also a good way to make sure he gives good head haha. It might feel a little good girl but oral is legitimately less risky than penetration.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 10:05 AM
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I mean a one date difference is fine right? If she slept with a guy on the second date once four years ago, and she sleeps with you on the third date, that’s not an insult.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 09:59 AM
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That makes sense given what they know about how women are behaving. Waiting a lot longer than other guys for the same girl is a really bad sign. Guys would wait 3 months like FDS says if girls were consistent about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 09:57 AM
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That’s a dark explanation. I feel like people on that sub at least try to be sex positive towards both sexes. They are just trapped in the Women are Wonderful effect, modern Feminism with its implicit belief that misandry is ok, etc. saying “male sexuality is disgusting” that literally triggered their logical brains in a way that saying “teenage boys are like horny dogs who hump furniture” didn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 09:38 AM
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Yeah we don’t have to change anything we just have to be more honest about the situation. They feel like they are pathetic losers, outcasts. Reality is getting girls is hard and there should be no shame in failing. This feels like such a simple thing to ask for but it is like pulling teeth.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 02:37 AM
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It would make incels feel so much better if we would just acknowledge and normalize this. They failed at something hard, there should be some honor in that.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 11:48 PM
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I don't know this just seems weird to me. I love kissing. I even kiss whores (they are, no surprise, amazing kissers).
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 08:45 PM
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So weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 08:25 PM
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You mean kissing? Always kiss a lot, why wouldn’t you?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 08:21 PM
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Most of that is just clickbait dude. If you are reading it it’s for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 08:08 PM
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If it's instinctual, genetically programmed behavior it won't be impacted by conscious thought or know about modern inventions like birth control. Given that only socially dominant chimp and bonobo males reproduce, this could the case for humans as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 06:23 PM
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Boots are a cheat code.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 03:49 PM
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OK, what are the code words you have in mind?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 03:33 PM
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What are the code words you are thinking of?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 03:30 PM
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You sound sad. Why not fire up tinder and get an ego boost? You’ll see how many boys are dying to get with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 10:15 AM
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I think you are going to have a lot of great adventures in the next 10 years. It seems like a pretty awesome time to be a girl. Chin up! College will be a lot of fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 09:58 AM
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So glad to hear someone else talking about sexual selection (which was Darwin’s other big concept besides natural selection). This shit is so normal, I don’t know why we can’t just admit that the majority of males aren’t supposed to reproduce in a natural state. And yes, the apps are clearly driving everyone crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 09:53 AM
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Dating apps are ubiquitous now, it’s everybody using them. And the pattern matches up with what we see in mitochondrial DNA (only 40% of males reproduced compared to 80% of females) and what we see in most other animals that reproduce sexually (sexual selection where only the best males reproduce).
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 09:40 AM
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That's what happens when you marry someone but aren't committed to keeping the sexual spark alive. Men are pretty simple, women should know how to keep them happy if they want them to stick around.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/21 04:34 PM
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I liked this comment so much I saved it in my evernote. I think this is my problem when trying to pick up women. I don't have the balls to smoothly escalate and just kind of ambivalently flop around until they get disgusted and leave. I also feel like there's a specific "follow-up" move I need to learn when I meet a receptive girl in a social context where she is giving clear IOIs but can't be seen as being easy. Getting the number, taking the uber as everyone leaves, then following up by text m…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/21 03:38 PM
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First of all don't talk about "people". It's disingenuous. Men and women are different, and that's OK. Second of all, if there's such variety in what women find attractive, then way is there such a winner-takes-all distribution of female attention on dating apps. The data really looks like all women find the same few guys hot. Which again is fine. Men and women are different, and that's OK. It's the lying about it that grinds my gears.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/21 03:31 PM
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Menopause fucked up her sexuality big time and it seems terminal. Looking into it it seems a quite common reason for midlife divorces, which is whats going to happen to us.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/21 03:24 PM
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I just wish my wife was super turned on and interested in having sex with me. I don't care if it's because of my abs or because of my cooking skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/21 02:24 PM
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Muslim except for Bali. But very chill muslims.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/21 01:24 PM
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“Fiery but mostly peaceful”
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/21 01:18 PM
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Try Indonesia.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/21 01:13 PM
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Because we want to get fucked by our wives.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/21 12:50 PM
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Right. But if the fish could talk and you asked them what the best approach to catching them was, do you think they would give good advice? Think about car buyers for a more neutral example. Could they give good advice about how to sell a car?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 09:30 PM
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I mean how would I have good advice for women as a man? I’ve never faced anything like what women face in the dating market.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 06:20 PM
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I feel most red pill concepts can be turned around. Men have as strong a rationalization hampster as women, you should watch what they do not what they say, men can't give good advice to women because you don't ask a fish for fishing advice. Most of it is simple logic that goes both ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 04:47 PM
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Yeah guys are NOT good at this. Trying to make it a habit. I can’t seem to get a cohort together, it’s a bunch of individual friends but they never cohere into a group or scene.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 03:58 PM
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That is their point. For one night stands to be a significant percentage of all sex acts they would have to be happening at a rate that seems unlikely. Fucking your wife every day is possible. Fucking a new girl every day is NBA level status. Of course friends with benefits are a different story.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 03:50 PM
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I’m like this. Don’t provide enough social value to others in terms of organizing events, inviting people, etc. trying to work on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 03:37 PM
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Sex god method or something different?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 02:14 AM
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I am an old fuck so NOT the arbiter of cool. If I had to guess I would say yes? (playing, going, working sound, anything in that space).
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 02:03 AM
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Lots of guys had hobbies but they were isolating them from girls rather than bringing girls in. Our society has become more and more isolating. This was a thing 20 years ago with the death of community and religion (see "Bowling Alone") and it has only accelerated with smartphones and Covid.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 08:10 PM
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I could help her with that lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 07:48 PM
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Everyone is giving poppy shit for this but it's absolutely true that introverted men who are good at math get into engineering because they think they'll get a good job, and women like money. And honestly it's true, once they are 30 they mostly get married.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 07:46 PM
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It is absolutely frustrating when someone you work with does this. I had a tax firm where the woman assigned to my account did this twice. The second time I switched firms. In professional spheres you can't take breaks like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 02:22 PM
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Right but you need to pick which reskin you are going for. Alt? Preppie? Tough guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 01:59 PM
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Niche for sure. Niche to win is even a common business strategy. If you can polarize and get a super positive reaction from 5% of women that's much better than a meh reaction from 50% of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 01:58 PM
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I love your writing man. Raw honest stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 01:30 PM
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Both. Also there are negative stereotypes about men that play video games that you don’t need to swim against. Also most other hobbies will be better for your body. The only argument in favor of video games is the cognitive stimulation. Probably a really good thing for old people (like 60+).
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 01:26 PM
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No you can be fat and ugly. You can still get laid every night without leaving your room by a top 10% guy on tinder. Just tell him come over and he will.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 10:39 AM
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A woman could get a new sex partner every night if she wanted. It would take no effort at all. Tinder is a thing. It’s as easy as ordering a pizza.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 10:19 AM
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Fair point on the stoic philosophers.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 01:08 AM
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I mean obviously dudes enjoy video games. Video games are super fun and designed to be addictive. That’s why they need to be told not to play them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 01:00 AM
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You are forgetting: men need to impress women. It’s not enough to do a hobby, you have to excel at it. So you can’t waste hours on a hobby that will actively harm your dating life like playing video games: you don’t have the hours to spare. You are coming from a female perspective of dating abundance.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 12:53 AM
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Your just objecting to the plain way men speak. Both statements say the same thing, you just made it less direct and clear so you wouldn’t hurt someone’s feelings. They don’t need to grow their minds and bodies. They need to do shit that impresses women. Some shit that impresses women is really bad. Like being a coke dealer. Some is self destructive, like doing extreme sports. Sometimes it’s a mystery why some stuff attracts women. Why are chess guys virgins, but poker guys are drowning in pussy…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 12:35 AM
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If you are having trouble with women you need to pick hobbies that will help with that. There’s plenty of cool stuff to choose from. Rock climbing, Salsa dancing, team sports…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 12:25 AM
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I was kinda trying to make the point that they wouldn’t ban it. People were pretty much saying that (teenage boys are like horny dogs who will jump the furniture, etc). I was agreeing and amplifying.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 12:19 AM
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The whole scrotes thing is so adorable. Honestly FDS is the cutest.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 10:33 PM
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Banned from deadbedrooms and \sex. \Sex was for a sarcastic comment "isn't male sexuality disgusting". Which honestly It's heartwarming that that was a banning offense, even if troubling they didn't understand it was sarcastic.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 10:05 PM
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As a married guy, for sure you reject women. It's high-stakes and super risky to have sex with a civilian outside the relationship. And women *will* try to seduce you to get your resources / clout / business network / leverage. But your game is so weak from lack of practice that you can just kind of flop around helplessly until the woman withdraws in disgust. At least that's how it goes every time with me...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 06:09 PM
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A traditional woman is fine. Expecting traditional masculinity while completely removing any expectations from the female gender role is the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 04:41 PM
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One sexual assault / rape is a lot worse than any number of N count. Even if a women deals with it on the surface it will color her sexuality and make her more vulnerable to sexual issues in the relationship later on. Best to just avoid a woman who has experienced this, sadly. It's not fair but that's the dating game: it sucks for a lot of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 01:52 PM
3

I would preffer to pull a wank watching porn. "The champaign of victory" - Bill Burr
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 11:55 AM
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We are discussing how to get a friend group.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 12:16 AM
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Assortive mating is a thing. Probably matches what red pill calls “beta bucks” but generally it’s a looksmatch and classmatch.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 11:57 PM
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We’ll if people collect action figures or jack off to anime it’s not going to help them get laid. It needs to be something social like playing tennis or salsa dancing or kayaking or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 11:49 PM
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Yeah but you see the same people in your hood every day, and anyone in your hood from work will become a pseudo friend. It bootstraps stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 11:42 PM
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Even talking about fashion on PPD, it's pretty blatant how..... basic the average man on PPD's style is. Agreed. But they actually realize it matters. And they are aiming for a lowest common denominator target. While not fashionable they are ahead of most men, who don't seem to even realize that what they wear matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 10:29 PM
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But she also wants to be supported financially. Those two together make it hard to claim you are "strong and independent".
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 10:24 PM
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I don't think hobbies are that effective. They are kind of an internet dating conversation panecea. Proximity works better. Get a job where you meet a lot of people, and live in a dense urban environment.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 09:00 PM
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Yes it had a slave-driven economy. Unsure how that is relevant to this conversation. Source as to it being destroyed by mass migrations? I've never heard that theory.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 08:59 PM
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Don't people say that decadent Rome had elements of female empowerment, that that was one factor in the downfall?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 08:58 PM
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One woman my friend went on a date with even took leftovers back to the other guy she was seeing. That's some food cuckolding right there.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 07:16 PM
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Is being a white guy such an advantage? Honestly black guys seem like they get sexualized 10X as much (and they seem smoother / better at pickup to boot). Black women and Asian men are the losers in the SMP, at least that's what the forbidden OKCupid data shows...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 07:12 PM
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The point is that it sounds like paradise to a horny incel. But a fortnight of getting what they want and it would be annoying. We value what is hard to get.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 06:38 PM
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No but the point is it's surprisingly annoying when you are actually as sexually satiated as the average woman is (sex on tap and being marketed to you 24/7). I agree the validation isn't there but if you're looking for validation from dumb sluts you're kinda dumb yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 06:28 PM
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Live in Pattaya for 2 weeks. Being able to get it whenever you want it will make you 10x less interested in it. You’ll still have a sex drive, but random propositions for a quick cheap fuck when you are just trying to find a decent cup of coffee will be annoying rather than tantalizing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 05:46 PM
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I'm sorry but I didn't understand any of that. It is very clear that one reason America is beating Europe is that we welcome immigrants who do things like 1)have kids and 2)occasionally do things like start trillion dollar tech empires. It only takes a few of these to have massive impact.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 05:12 PM
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I've walked up to girls and said hi, what's your name? Just from the response to that question and body language I say well it was nice meeting you and walk away or continue conversation. I love this. On the surface it seems really awkward but in reality bailing out when you see unreceptive body language does everyone a favor.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 05:08 PM
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The trend is your friend. Everyone thinks it will continue to drop.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 04:52 PM
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Rome didn't fail because it allowed in non-ethnic Italians. It failed because it became decadent. Their machine for incorporating new ethnicities into their culture extended their rein by centuries. It was absolutely a massive advantage. And it was really cutting edge and progressive at the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 04:51 PM
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Dude Rome was the most successful civilization of all time. For the US to have the track record of Rome would be amazing (like 500 more years of global dominance).
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 04:49 PM
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Probably good training even if not effective. So good idea to do it a bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 03:48 PM
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But it gets annoying surprisingly quickly. This is actually a great way for men to develop empathy for women. Stay in Pattaya a couple of weeks and you’ll get annoyed by the constant (hot, young, female) sex pests trying to talk you into a quick fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 03:42 PM
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Wise decision. Set and setting are important. Maybe try drinking socially and smoking weed socially (more, if you already do that)?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 02:41 PM
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Yeah the Romans pretty much let anyone into their civilization that was willing to pay taxes and learn Latin.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 01:53 PM
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That’s shockingly practical. Maybe that’s why Rolex doesn’t signal as much as it used to. The brittleness, servicing, and need to stay formal are all useful signals beyond the price of the watch. (Of high concienciousness, commitment to looking formal, willingness to risk damage to something expensive, etc). Sounds like you made the right decision.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 01:41 PM
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Yup. Not getting into details but one of my kids is special needs. Life destroying. (Its not just what happens to the kid. Imagine your wife becoming the stereotypical “Autism Mom”). Given the different holes kids can fall into (suicide, drug addiction, sickness are the three I’ve seen in my UMC world) I think having one kid has at least a 10% chance of ruining your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 01:28 PM
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Not the worst idea. Only watch nerds can tell the difference anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 01:03 PM
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Kids suck don’t have them. Ruined my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 12:48 PM
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People are very selfish. When they make statements talking about any kind of self sacrifice you know they are lying. It’s easy to spot. They wouldn’t give 5$ to a homeless man but they are making life decisions because f “the planet”? Come On, it doesn’t pass the smell test.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 12:47 PM
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Not too expensive????
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 12:42 PM
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Go for a Patek Phillipe. Rolex is a poor persons idea of an expensive watch. (Or so I’ve heard. I wear no watch).
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 12:41 PM
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Have you used mushrooms or LSD yet? Ideally in nature with your bros? Highly recommend.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 12:38 PM
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The nice thing about Tijuana apparently is it can happen in a way that feels natural. A lot of Americans own homes there or weekend there habitually.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 12:30 PM
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I gave you the stats for India. Quite sure there is a similar pattern for other South Asian countries. I don’t know the trends for Africa so can’t comment on that. But the general pattern of dropping reproduction levels is happening worldwide, faster than economic models of this would predict (it was previously thought to be a product of economic development but it seems often to be outpacing that model).
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 11:51 AM
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Asia birth rate is dropping like a rock. Average age in China increased by 2 years over the last 5 years. Japan has a replacement rate of 1.3 kids per woman and Korea is at a shocking .84. Even India is rapidly decreasing their replacement rate (2.2 and dropping).
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 11:42 AM
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This guy was saying it’s pretty normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 02:55 AM
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San Diego to Tijuana, like another guy was talking about last week. Living near the border between poor and rich is key.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 02:49 AM
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She's talking about females.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 11:26 PM
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Thai whores are amazing. The massage after and their resolute determination to make you cum a second time before the hour is up are commendable. Plus they are great kissers! 10/10 highly recommend.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 11:25 PM
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You can tell by how they act and their lifestyle. My wife has an N-count of 2. My first serious girlfriend probably has an N-count of 50. Both are great people but it would be pretty obvious to anyone dating them what level they were at. If you couch-surf around the world for a year you are ho-ing it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 11:18 PM
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No reason not to be honest when you are anonymous.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 07:33 PM
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The mini-ring attached to her phone is the shocking part. Peak narcissism.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 05:26 PM
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Every group has leaders and followers
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 04:37 PM
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Wow I thought I had a dirty mind but I didn’t see how dirty this was at ALL. He’s saying he wants to eat her!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 04:09 PM
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Women don't need to do this anymore, they all have tinder. This was way more of a cliche 20 years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 03:05 PM
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wearing the Doctor Octopus shit again, taking photos of herself with a mini-ring light attached to her phone. WHAT THE EVER LOVING FUCK?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 02:16 PM
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I mean I don't use condoms for blowjobs because they remove most of the sensation. I don't use dental dams because women would think you are a freakin' weirdo if you whip one out. And I like the taste of pussy but if women wanted it of course I would do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 02:11 PM
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Of course, using a dental dam when doing so is preferred Don't lie, nobody ever uses a dental dam for anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 01:25 PM
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No she has pretty middle class worldview. Despite ample access to my perverted mind I don’t think she realizes the depths of depravity that male sexuality is capable of. We don’t really keep a United front with the kids. She actually thinks that United front is an ideology for making the woman agree with the man. So she basically gets her way, I’m pretty henpecked.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 11:11 AM
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Really specific right? You have to be pretty kinky to even know about squirting dildos.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 11:48 PM
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Thanks I’ll keep an eye out.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 10:24 PM
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If a man can cheat he is high value. High value is a market term, not a moral one. The SMV is amoral.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 10:18 PM
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This happened to my wife. I think it’s pretty common.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 10:09 PM
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Or for men, the way women shut down sexually after having kids. There’s a lot more information now about things that were previously hushed up.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 09:55 PM
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How society is shaped? Elaborate? It happens but I don’t know what society has to do with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 09:52 PM
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I guess she has quieted down then. I never see her comments or posts and she used to run this joint.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 09:47 PM
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I have a friend who did this. I watched him level up like it was a video game over a 4 year period. Women enable this by being so impressed with social proof and making confidence such an important dimension of attraction. The girls in this guys dating life were like the starter fish you get for a fish tank. They’re not gonna make it but they condition the water for the fish you really want.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 09:33 PM
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The club and tinder are super competitive. They might be top 20% but tinder and the club the top 5% guys are the ones really cleaning up. Not that they wouldn’t have occasional success but it would be work is all I’m saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 09:27 PM
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Atlas!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 09:21 PM
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This feels like the easiest thing in the world to fix with surgery. Is that a thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 09:15 PM
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Lots and lots of conversations and communication Toys and vibes (for her: she has a hitachi she is completely dependent on now) Date nights Dread game Full time nanny / outsourcing cleaning to a maid service
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 09:01 PM
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I fuck prostitutes whenever I travel on business.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 08:24 PM
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Sounds hot AF to be honest. Maybe you can cuff my wrists to my ankles while we do all this so I'm easier to control?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 07:08 PM
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Honestly prostitutes are a much better source of sex ideas than porn. They focus on things that give pleasure (as opposed to looking good) and are achievable (since they'll be doing it a few times a day). The also are willing to do things like work on their kegels or do enough squats that they can do cowgirl properly or train away their gag reflex, so they show you what is reasonably possible for a woman to do with some discipline.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 04:25 PM
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This is true. Poly/kink people are often fugly as hell. And men are super jealous of mediocre sex that happens within 30 minutes of meeting (it’s not the sex obviously, it is the validation).
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 03:13 PM
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Shit at this point I’d be happy for PIV.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 02:47 PM
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Amateur porn is just porn. In 2021 all humans have become pretty good at producing pro-quality content for the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 01:37 PM
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Can someone point me to research that shows women prefer disagreeable men? I was arguing about this on the dating sub the other day (some chick told me “kind is the bare minimum” which struck me as painfully naiive).
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 01:31 PM
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It’s not just that they think they don’t have to. Pregnancy can permanently fuck with a woman’s sexual drive. My wife was never able to get back into being a sexual person after pregnancy. Just never have kids is the answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 01:23 PM
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Man I would worry about being kidnapped. Am I just being a pussy?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 09:05 PM
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You don’t deserve the playbook. You’re only suggesting it out of your own homophobia and misandry, because you think it will make men feel bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 08:59 PM
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Yeah it’s rare for women. Never happened for most men. For some men it’s just a Tuesday night. Pareto distributions are a mind fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 05:44 PM
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It’s rare but when it happens it makes an impression on a young man’s psych.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 03:56 PM
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The glory holes at the grocery store bathrooms are way better IMHO.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 03:55 PM
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That’s fucked up! What if you want to go to a concert or festival with friends? You have to pay all their tickets? Honestly this sounds like it would make friendship as complicated as dating. Shouldn’t friends split the cost of spending time together?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 03:49 PM
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If you invite a friend to lunch you don’t pay for it. It’s only in dating that we apply this rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 01:44 PM
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But the trend will be visible (first in average age rather than population size) very soon. In fact it already is. Their average age is up almost 2 years (to 38.4) in just the last 5 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 01:28 PM
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I mean he could be crazy. So could you. So could I. Being on this sub is not a super positive sign for mental health! I do believe that male celebrities use social media to bang randoms.. There was the whole case with James Franco a few years ago. Basketball players don’t go out when they travel any more because they can just order in girls to the room via tinder/insta. This is pretty unknowable but it’s a good example of the rich get richer dynamics of online dating. Top men are really cleaning…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 01:22 PM
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He calls them normies. That implies they are basic girls he knows, not insta girls. Tho I’m sure they have Insta accounts like all girls of that age.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 02:04 AM
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Arrrrrrr….
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 12:43 AM
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So these aren’t female friends of his?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 12:08 AM
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Just don’t marry ‘em!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 12:00 AM
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If they are dumb and hot they sound perfect.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 10:19 PM
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So he knows 3 supermodels?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 09:42 PM
1

College is indeed a special time in your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 07:08 PM
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Normal dudes who want to get laid better care about fashion rules. At a minimum your are signaling that you are out of touch and don't care about how you present. There's no positive way to spin it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 06:59 PM
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If you go for the real quality of a watch you can show a Rado Ceramica Jubilee as it is a masterpiece of technology in ceramic housing and has a timeless thin design - that way you show your dedication to technic. Yeah I guarantee women don't care about that spergy shit If you are rich you propably already have a(or collection) of Patek Philippe or a Audemars Piguet. This, on the other hand, they care about.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 06:50 PM
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As a matter of fact, go to Google right now and type in stereotypical Dad outfit. You do not want to dress like that. This is actionable advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 04:26 PM
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Why no Rolex? And what instead?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 04:25 PM
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If you're an introvert having something on your shirt that can get people to talk about it is pretty convenient, like a joke or a movie reference NO CLOTHS WITH WORDS OR PICTURES ON THEM is like the first fashion rule ever. I would add "know the bad fashion memes". Square toed shoes, fanny packs, belt clips for anything, cargo shorts: they are haram. You don't need to know why.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 04:21 PM
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Horrible but also fascinating from a population perspective. Since women are the bottleneck to reproduction this means the Chinese population will get small even faster that planned.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 12:41 PM
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Do American guys date across the border? How do the Mexican women meet them? Like are American guys in San Diego changing their location to Tijuana and swiping right?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 12:40 PM
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Fill a few 747s with cute filipinas. This is an easy problem to solve.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 12:32 PM
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Statistics isn't sexist. https://www.webmd.com/sex/features/sex-drive-how-do-men-women-compare "Study after study shows that men's sex drives are not only stronger than women's, but much more straightforward"
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 12:26 PM
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Man this has been studied by actual academics. It's not in any way up for debate. Outliers don't prove anything in a discussion about statistics, we are talking about patterns at a population level. And there's no reason that this needs to be a hill that anyone dies on. Equality doesn't mean "men and women are exactly the same", it means "treat everyone fairly".
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 12:14 PM
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Yeah Chad isn't bad. He's just successful. He's probably not a pushover, which is an approach that would benefit everybody.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 12:04 PM
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In most social primates, socially dominant males are the ones who reproduce. This is true in our closest cousins, Chimpanzees and Bonobos. Wolves have nothing to do with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 11:56 AM
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If a women gets 2-3 good fucks a month from a guy out of her league she is happy. Usually when she is ovulating. And yes, a women's sex drive is like 10% of mens sex drive. This has been studied to death, there's no ambiguity in the data.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 11:54 AM
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Tech startups are powered by exploitation. Find some lost boys with autistic tendencies, convince them that a ping pong table and a beer keg make it the fraternity they never got into at college, and work them 70 hours a week until they burn out and you replace them. Meanwhile the business model is often some shady shit that's too risky for more established companies to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 11:46 AM
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What about hookers tho? I mean that’s their job.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 11:35 PM
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If you get even a little bit swole you notice an immediate change in how most women treat you. It’s doesn’t require a large sample size to confirm the model at all. If you get even a little bit of fame or status, same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 09:58 PM
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Yes it's a brutally simple model of attraction. But it's one that has really good predictive power, so it's an amazing model. The fact that it doesn't predict everything perfectly is normal, it's just a simple model.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 07:49 PM
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Sexual bucket list items can really eat at you. It can be really quieting to have actually tried stuff, for guys it makes them feel like a real man. If there's a sex act that's pretty common in your society and you have never been able to get a girl to do it with you, you must be pretty low status, right? I realize this sounds a bit insane when you actually put it into words. But remember guys come from a position of scarcity when it comes to this stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 06:28 PM
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Buy a penthouse, a boat, and some cocaine. Also rich people don't have to be bald. And on cocaine he won't be fat either now that i think about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 04:04 PM
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Half of all marriages end in divorce, for a whole galaxy of reasons, trivial and profound. Disease is just another issue. You can't expect it to not effect things. Honestly seems much more legitimate issue then "you don't make me HAAAAAAPPPPPY" or "I love you but I'm not IN love with you".
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 01:31 PM
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How? Why? I've read stories about guys getting erectile disfunction and women leaving because of that. No one ever seems to think the woman is the bad guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 12:41 PM
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I don't see what the problem is. People are allowed to leave relationships for any reason. No sex is a pretty darned good one. The fact that it's medical doesn't change anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 12:25 PM
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You know what I did when I was married to a man who couldn’t keep up with me? I left. OK your position is completely self-contradicting at this point. Is leaving a marriage over sex issues OK or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 12:16 PM
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Take HRT.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 12:13 PM
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You ain't gettin rich from a food truck. At any meaningful scale, there is organized, funded, talented, sociopathic competition. Why wouldn't there be? If it's a big opportunity it will attract the talented sociopaths.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 07:03 PM
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You need BOTH talent and brutality to get to the top of the hill. Because you're competing against everyone else, and everyone wants to be at the top.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 06:32 PM
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I'm glad I posted since the parent comment got deleted. Answering machines were the fuckin shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 05:30 PM
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Women are sexual creatures. If they can't get a hot boyfriend they will accept a hot fuckbuddy. It's not ideal but it's better than nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 05:10 PM
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People mostly vote according to which tribe they are a member of. It's not really related to morals.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 04:45 PM
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if a Tinder man does match her that's never a guarantee he would even respond or do anything Most women can get a hot guy to come by and bang them on a Tuesday night. One hot guy can keep at least 10 women reasonably content.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 04:41 PM
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It's not about voting. It's about their actions in the workplace. There are a few kind nerds who happened to get a job early at Google or bought some bitcoin early or whatever. But anyone who has built a business or been in management has to have sharp fucking elbows. Otherwise they will get selected out because capitalism is a fucking full-contact sport.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 04:31 PM
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I married a girl I met in college. It’s not that hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 12:46 PM
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I think she realized I was irritated and about to leave so she distracts me by asking how to fix her answering machine. GenX sex stories are the best!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 08:09 PM
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Love that shit!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 07:42 PM
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Everyone agrees AMALT. Men are heckin violent and perverted and disagreeable.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 07:38 PM
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I mean, yes, some people are disabled or whatever and that sucks. Most people can lift weights or do body weight exercises.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 07:10 PM
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The feelings are good fuel for a weight lifting sesh. That’s all they are good for.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 04:28 PM
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I mean women do play for #teamwomen. They have much stronger in-group bias (men have out-group bias so in aggregate they also play for #teamwomen)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 03:45 PM
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You've never seen how women act around a high status man in a low inhibition environment? It's absolutely crazy. Mating behavior being instinctual should not be surprising from a biology perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 03:18 PM
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I don't follow anyone. I do know that men and women are different, just like males and females in other species that experience sexual selection.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 03:17 PM
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My point is there are dudes who LIVE and WORK in low inhibition environments. That has a big impact on how much casual sex they have. They still have to be Chads because that environment is brutally competitive for men. Environment matters is the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 02:35 PM
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TRP says to lift heavy so you can smash club thots. It says don’t give money to women, that’s beta bucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 02:20 PM
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Enterprise software sales and pharma sales for one. Pretty much any high dollar value transaction where the WAW effect can be used to get an advantage. Realtors are often women for the same reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 01:53 PM
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I mean Chad can’t Chad in a vaccum. He had to be in a low-inhibition context, like college or a house party or a club or bar or whatever. And some people spend 40+ hours a week in those kind of environments.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 12:37 PM
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Women absolutely behave this way. It’s what drives AF/BB. The AF attraction isn’t logical and calculated it is instinctive.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 11:16 AM
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Most mating decisions (for both sexes) are made by our lizard brains and rationalized by our forebrains. We are really good at telling ourselves convincing (and coincidentally flattering!) stories about why we did stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 12:17 AM
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High status = alpha
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 11:51 PM
1

Not only that. Having a system / clear mental model / plan gives them confidence and a reason to keep trying through initial failure.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 09:49 PM
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All models are flawed, some models are useful. For me the lens of "relationship marketplace" plus the lens of "sexual selection" explains a LOT of mating behavior. But anyone hoping to predict human behavior 100% of the time is going to be disappointed.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 08:02 PM
1

It's crazy how everyone on reddit is super-wealthy. Great demographic to advertise to.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 06:17 PM
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That's a completely difference scenario. The influential millionaire wouldn't even talk to her except for a late-night booty call. Status>Money.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 06:16 PM
2

Your observation is correct but your conclusions are wrong. It's always better to polarize. There are no women who fetishise a LACK of tatoos. It's the absence of a negative, which will not make a woman fuck you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 05:09 PM
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Steroids
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 05:04 PM
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vast differences among individual women Individual women are pretty similar. They're just members of different subcultures, so they wear different uniforms. "I like fit jocks" vs "I like fit hippies" isn't that different.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 04:59 PM
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It's actually fascinating how women select against economically intelligent behavior. Real rich people try to blend in as much as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 03:49 PM
2

I wouldn't. She's playing the same role that a lion plays with gazelles. Some people aren't meant to have money. And *someone* is going to take it from them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 03:48 PM
1

Yeah. This is how a lot of rich guys go broke actually. The smart way to handle your money is stick it in Vanguard index funds and live off the dividends. But that generates no tingles so they get into startup investing, real estate, all kinds of high profile illiquid investments that make no sense from a purely financial perspective and are a lot of work (since as you point out, the "work" is a key part of what they need to project).
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 03:35 PM
4

Well they both clear out clogged pipes so that makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 01:47 AM
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This is like the ultimate Nice Guy story. Like no other context is needed, just share this story with young men and they'll understand how not to behave.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 01:42 AM
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Giving it directly to women certainly won’t work (see the OP above). Spending it on a boat and some cocaine would probably work pretty well.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 01:20 AM
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LMAO he could have saved 10 lives in Africa with that money. You didn’t even give him a courtesy blowjob. Chumps gonna chump.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 01:17 AM
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Wow he gave you the money? What a maroon!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 12:42 AM
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Think it was the gay sex scenes in Animal Kingdom that made me realize this haha. Just bros banging ass and getting into fistfights.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/21 01:16 PM
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Bringing significant surplus value to the group in a high status way is completely different from being a good partner. Like not correlated to anti-correlated. And it’s not something that men use to filter women at all. And yes, red pill “truths” are super pedestrian. They were known by everyone 2000 years ago. They only seem like big insights because of the last 40 years of aggressive blank-slate indoctrination.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/21 01:10 PM
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No most men have not takien anything up the butt. (And I love prostate stuff but it’s definitely not a majority of men that have done it. Most women think it’s pretty gay for a guy to want that unfortunately).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/21 12:49 PM
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Don't be dense, she means receiving. Not simply being underneath.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/21 10:19 AM
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There are different ways to be a leader. Basically you need to contribute surplus value to the group, and do it in a way that people actually appreciate (no not just diligently doing low status work). I would wager that most of the guys in successful relationships, and DEFINITELY the guys that are dating successfully in current year, are doing that. Men have to bring some value because their sexuality is not valued by default the way womens sexuality is valued.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/21 10:12 AM
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This is like a minor tactical issue. Whatever subculture you are in, you want to be the alpha as a male. That means socially dominant, the center of attention. This looks completely different in a hippy commune from in Manhattan banking culture, but either way being in shape and being the leader will pay off.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 10:41 PM
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So strange because there's nothing more manly than two masc dudes banging.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 10:19 PM
1

It will be hard but what is the worst that could happen?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 07:55 PM
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Oh I agree it’s never going back. I’m just not confident that where it is going is a good place. Women want the whole marriage white picket fence thing as much as men do, and I think that’s harder for them to get now.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 02:06 PM
1

People say taking an improv class or doing Toastmasters is awesome.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 09:26 PM
1

Dude you are blasting out this copy-pasta on every thread. Mix it up a bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 02:38 PM
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the social script of dating > move in together> get a dog> engagement > marriage > buy a house >have 2 kids> retire and move to Florida.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 01:28 PM
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With a brotherhood. It's a wonderful thing but most people don't have that kind of institutional and social support outside of marriage (in the West at least. Extended families play a larger role in other cultures).
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 01:03 PM
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Because growing old alone is lonely. It's harder to make friends and harder to find cool stuff you can do as your body falls apart. Your brain and body start to go and having someone to lean on helps you live independent longer.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 01:00 PM
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Because Chads and hookers are for sex, not for raising kids and growing old together.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 12:24 PM
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I know lesbian couples that are 70 years old.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 12:06 PM
2

This was a very insightful comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 12:03 PM
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And that's OK. Women are sneaky, they can usually avoid getting caught. Think of it as a pressure release valve in the system that stops it from blowing up. Like hookers.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 11:59 AM
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This is the "enforced monogomy" solution that Jordan Peterson was pilloried for mentioning a couple of years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 11:53 AM
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You should come to the SF bay area if you like smart awkward rich white/asian guys. They are as common as dirt and never get laid. And are super grateful for any female attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 11:04 AM
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Women don't reward career achievement with sexual attention. If they did, the nice-guy betas who make 200K a year coding at google after graduating from MIT wouldn't be incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 02:07 AM
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TIL you can spread HIV (and worse!) through kissing! /s
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 02:03 AM
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Yes this is one of those role reversal trick questions. Seems like most women agree you should break up if you partner won’t fuck you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 11:43 PM
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Women get bored with relationship sex way before men do, and kids and menopause trash their sex drives permanently.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 11:37 PM
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Umm he definitely wants to smash.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 08:28 PM
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How funny is it that this comment got upvoted but saying nothing is wrong with male sexuality got downvoted?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 06:33 PM
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What's wrong with you banging a hot younger dude? Go for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 03:54 PM
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I bought a stroker (a couple actually) and she freaked out so hard that I had to throw them out. "What if the kids find it?" and general contempt for the kind of man that would need a toy were her reactions. Ironic and quite unfair since she is attached at the hip to her hitachi wand. So she gets toys but I don't. It's an ego thing. I've accomplished a hell of a lot in life, and I feel I should be treated like my needs and wants matter. Like if she had gone to gyno appointments without pressure …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 01:53 PM
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Yeah that was the joke.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 01:43 PM
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The more I accomplish in life the more entitled I feel to young pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 11:57 AM
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Gastritis (she got an adjustable bed that raises her head and that helps somewhat) and sleeping problems (sometimes she or I will have trouble sleeping, and if it is me it keeps her up).
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 11:15 AM
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Diet Coke? With steak?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 02:19 AM
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I’m 48 and about to divorce over lack of sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 01:40 AM
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All of them, now that I think about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 12:57 AM
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No but some of my favorite whores are sex workers.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 12:56 AM
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Hookers are people too and they do an important job. Calling them human fleshlights is dehumanizing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 11:54 PM
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I give up. Why do hookers lose their teeth? It’s meth right?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 11:10 PM
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I think she might be Mormon or something. There are cultures within the US that different and much more chaste than the mainstream. And that’s OK!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 10:38 PM
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Had a kid 8 years ago. My wife hit menopause right after. Refused to go to a gyno to figure out why sex was painful. Once she went refused to investigate HRT (even local). Refused to investigate alternative therapies (I was particularly interested in THC lube). So PIV was off the table for good. She's honestly been generous with oral and manual sex until the last year or so, and I do appreciate that (she has an orgasm every time I do). But her life philosophy is that after having kids sex isn't …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 10:11 PM
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Blowjobs are kind of a big deal. That’s why you can’t do them in public.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 08:12 PM
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Type adultseach your-city into google. Text the girl whose picture gives you a boner. Cops don’t give a shit about this stuff. They are just glad working girls aren’t slinging it on the corner any more.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 07:58 PM
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But it IS just a phone call and a couple hundred dollars away. Always.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 07:44 PM
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Permission/ consent is of course crucial but is generally nonverbal. You go 90% of the way in and let her come in the last 10% or decline by turning her face. I feel like I’m explaining things to a foreigner or a teenager. Can you confirm you are an adult American?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 07:08 PM
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I’m not sure what you mean. At the end of a date a dude will try to kiss you. That’s a core part of the cultural script. Rejecting the kiss (which is a perfectly fine move, a standard part of the script) is communicating that you do not want a romantic relationship with him. If you aren’t aware of all this YOU might need to work on your social skills. This is pretty basic western culture stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 06:51 PM
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Umm prostitutes took off 5000 years ago and are still going strong. It’s just hidden because it’s illegal and embarrassing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 06:46 PM
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Why assume because she kissed a lot of guys that she blew a lot of guys? Kissing is no big deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 06:02 PM
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No one is dictating anything. This is the opposite: it's just the free market at work. If you act like you don't find someone attractive, the only people who will continue dating you are people with no other options.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 06:00 PM
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50% of the population has HSV1 herpes. This is a big problem because if you don't catch it as a child you can catch it as an adult on your genitals. In fact about half the current cases of genital herpes are HSV1. This is a growing problem because children are living more isolated, sterile lives and not catching HSV1 as children the way they used to. Everyone should try to catch HSV1 as soon as possible on their mouth so it doesn't end up on their dick/pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 05:55 PM
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The only men who will go on multiple dates without kissing you are pathetic losers who have no options. I'm sorry but not kissing a guy on a date is like taking out a huge billboard saying "I'M NOT ATTRACTED TO YOU". Unless you are in like Afghanistan or somewhere in which case my apologies. All this is in a Western context.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 05:47 PM
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Oh come on. You don't have to fuck a guy, but if you're not kissing him you're not into him sexually.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 04:34 PM
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Do psychedelic drugs and make art with your bros? Go on long camping trips with your bros? The key is to have bros, and to do stuff with them. Fun, hard, impressive stuff. My vision board for incels is that they buy a lake house and a boat together and spend the rest of their lives wakeboarding and shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 04:33 PM
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Talk therapy is frustratingly slow, expensive, difficult to access. Dudes should participate in masculine group activities (sports, group fishing trips, anything but video games). Bachelor herds aren't the worst thing in the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 03:22 PM
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Menopause destroys PIV for *many* women (for 45% of women PIV is painful). If they aren't open to exploring other stuff (no just blowjobs and handjobs) then the sex life takes a major hit. Men are willing to take viagra. Many women are not open to hormonal therapy (which to be fair is riskier and a bigger deal than viagra).
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 02:23 PM
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Hookers are cleaner than civvies. I'm 100% on board with the married men fucking hookers train. But I assume most hookers have STIs and are at risk of HIV. That's why you don't fuck them without a condom, and why you don't fuck them in the ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 12:23 PM
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Yes it's fucking terrible. I'm about to divorce over it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 12:05 PM
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Country is pretty terrible in general. But if Townes Van Zandt and Blaze Foley songs don't make you cry you might not be human.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 11:50 AM
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Mailmen are fucking Kingz man. My mailman walks 14 miles a day, looks awesome, and is a landlord.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 11:44 AM
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I don't understand how the hell someone lives on $40K.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 11:21 AM
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Everyone who pipes in on these threads say Germany is similar to the rest of rich Europe, and Australia is similar to US. So not much difference. Prostitution is still shamed in both countries though, it's not normalized, so it's not a fair test. Places like Thailand or Korea where prostitution is normalized would be a better comparison, but of course they are completely different from Western countries in all other respects so you can't really compare them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 11:10 AM
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Redpill is knowledge not ideology. Women can benefit from understanding male and female nature just as much as men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 01:54 AM
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You don't know how much money your husband makes? WTF?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 01:39 AM
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Oh and legalizing/normalizing prostitution would go a long way towards relaxing thirst-driven demand It's a great idea but will only have marginal impact. Germany and Australia are normal Western countries, they don't seem that different from US and France.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 03:36 PM
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That's the menopause effect.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 03:34 PM
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See I don't think people consider fucking after the first date to be a hookup. Maybe if they met on tinder and just came right over they would, but not if they went on a proper date and ended up having sex. If the median / standard socially is 3 dates, then there's going to be a decent number above and below 3, including many at one.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 03:15 PM
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All of them are terrible. RedPill is shit. MarriedRedPill is shit. Those are the only ones I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 08:24 AM
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Absolutely. But women ALWAYS moralize when this topic comes up, instead of just admitting that attraction isn't moral and bad people can be hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 09:29 PM
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tell them they can have a burger if they suck your dick. This is possibly the funniest line ever written on this sub btw. Bravo.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 05:20 PM
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"Because it makes it seem as if you’re buying their time which is unsexy. So if you use it sparingly it can help but too much and it makes it seem like you’re overcompensating for something. Like a holiday weekend out on the water with female friends helps vs say inviting girls out from the bar hurts your chances versus just gaming them normally."
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 05:13 PM
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Yeah that's the point. Even for the trash women you have to be somewhat subtle with it. Which was a surprise to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 05:05 PM
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The solution is to embrace the struggle. Internalize and accept that life isn't fair. Embrace the idea that males of most species have to constantly fight to gain access to women. Acknowledge that we as a species are no different. The courtship ritual is not the place to display your warm and tender side. It's the place to display dominance. If our culture was just honest about this, if it treated dudes who failed at dating like honorable men who failed at something hard, it would solve most of …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 04:54 PM
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This is the thread where we were talking about the downsides of owning a boat: https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/q4uyc5/just\_how\_important\_is\_it\_these\_days\_for\_a\_man\_to/hg4hu0h/?context=3
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 04:50 PM
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Renting girls is seen as low status. I've hung out with rich people in a party environment, no one talks about it. People do it but they keep it on the down low.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 04:48 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/GoonCaves/ You shouldn't have asked.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 04:46 PM
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Even men knowing they have to lift weight is a big improvement over before in terms of realistically understanding what makes women horny. Plastic surgery is probably next.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 04:41 PM
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What would you do if you got rich?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 04:38 PM
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They exist but have no backing from polite society.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 03:40 PM
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gooncaves are terrifying. Can't believe they are a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 03:21 PM
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If men are competing with each other to reach the top 20%, their ability to support each other in the large is impossible.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 03:16 PM
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Being a guy is complicated. A Rolex and a boat and a Mercedes will help but you need to wield them like you AREN'T using them to get pussy or it looks pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 03:04 PM
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Exercise / diet science has advanced, and there is now an understanding that men need to have good bodies to be attractive to compete. I was GenX and I literally did not know women liked muscles, or how easy they are to get.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 01:12 PM
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Not sure this is it. I was in a thread yesterday where a guy was talking about the downsides of *owning a boat* on your dating game. Humans are tricky, and usually have some countermeasures developed for repelling someone who just throws money at the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 01:08 PM
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But sex is part of the early dating experience now. Does fucking on the first date count as hooking up? Or does it have to be "meet a random at a party and fuck them"? That might be where the disconnect is coming from.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 01:03 PM
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The downside of healthy living that no one ever talks about.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 12:58 PM
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Some can, some can't. I tried getting with dudes in college (I was horny and thought I was open-minded) and I just wasn't able to get into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 12:17 PM
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Germany is like 5X cheaper. If you fuck three times it will be cheaper to go there.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 12:14 PM
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human touch is necessary for proper mental and physical well-being, that it is very easily obtained in western society WHAT? There are a lot of lonely fuckers out there who do not have a good chance of getting a hug today. Are you talking about paying for a massage or what? I would say odds are better in the third world, where society is more interconnected and extended families are stronger. Western world is atomized and many are very lonely.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 12:11 PM
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The same is true for male sexuality of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 01:43 AM
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How do you inconspicuously travel to Thailand?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 12:28 AM
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The one in 17 was specifically at the time of the introduction of agriculture I think.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 11:24 PM
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There’s absolutely nothing wrong with female sexuality. It is what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 07:55 PM
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Yeah that makes sense, you need to create a fun environment with you at the center, not just autistically offer resources to strangers. I’m quite interested in this topic since I’m wealthy and about to be divorced. Buying a boat is such a cliche but I may need to go there.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 05:47 PM
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Whoa why does it make you look like a chump? I’m fascinated by these kinds of double binds.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 05:12 PM
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I don’t know that they have actual meetups. But this is a lovely positive thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 05:07 PM
2

EQ just sounds like game to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 04:57 PM
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Speaking of which. You should buy a boat. If you aren’t using money to create a lifestyle it won’t have impact.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 04:49 PM
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How old are you? I’ve heard money matters more as you age.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 11:07 AM
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Full quote for those who have never heard it before. “When looking for a life partner, my advice to women is date all of them: the bad boys, the cool boys, the commitment-phobic boys, the crazy boys. But do not marry them. The things that make the bad boys sexy do not make them good husbands. When it comes time to settle down, find someone who wants an equal partner. Someone who thinks women should be smart, opinionated and ambitious. Someone who values fairness and expects or, even better, want…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 03:05 AM
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“Eat Pray Love” is an American divorce movie. The girl goes to Tuscany to restore an Italian villa and then somewhere else and then Indonesia I think? The point is going wherever the divorced women go to party is an option.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 11:30 PM
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No idea, probably nothing relevant to this topic. Are you trying to argue that men are more murdery? Because no one disagrees that men are hella violent.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 11:16 PM
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I mean if divorced women are going to Paris to take French classes, following them there isn’t exploitative. It’s just supply meeting demand.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 11:14 PM
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Or you could just buy a boat. Or get plastic surgery. Or travel to a place where you can connect with women who are going through their eat pray love phase. Or pay someone to manage your tinder account. Or buy a hot tub and a decent stereo. Or buy a bar and be the bartender. Or take testosterone injections and get a personal trainer. Or start using coke. Or…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 10:56 PM
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“And with time, nothing is sexier” - Sheryl Sandberg, 2 years before she killed her beta bux husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 10:53 PM
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Not hot rich guys need to grow some balls and come up with a strategy. People are poor AF there has to be a way to leverage money to get pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 10:50 PM
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I love eating pussy. Even questionable pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 12:56 AM
1

Buy an apartment in Miami and one in Barcelona. Shuttle between the two, taking Miami girls to Barcelona and Barcelona girls to Miami. Geo arbitrage sugar game basically. My Spanish would need a lot of brushing up for this plan to work but I would have time.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 12:44 AM
1

What an arm!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 12:28 AM
1

damn, so it's really true there are no women on the internet?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 05:17 PM
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And the prostitutes didn't have to compete over customers anymore. Which was a big plus. This makes a lot of sense. Strip clubs have terrible vibes for this reason, the women are all dogfighting with each other to sell dances to the few dudes who actually brought a real stack.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 09:24 PM
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Labor shortages are good news for working people. Supply chains are fucked but getting unfucked by the day. Things could be a lot worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 08:46 PM
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The exact state of the country is impossible to know. You might be being too pessimistic: everyone has jobs and the stock market is doing great. Inflation is a thing but it’s not the worst problem to have. People who still have Trump derangement now that Trump is gone are clinically insane. You see them sometimes especially on the internet, but they aren’t common. Me, I’m just glad the struggle sessions are over.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 07:59 PM
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It’s interesting because I would absolutely get with a hot T-girl if I had the chance. It’s the feminine presentation that’s the dealbreaker, not the plumbing.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 06:38 PM
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Humans are vulnerable to this shit. Even this place is a mind-virus.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 06:08 PM
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Dude politics have definitely chilled in the US. A year ago things were nuts. Trump derangement syndrome was absolutely a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 05:56 PM
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My dad became the left wing equivalent of a rush Limbaugh dittohead. 4 hours a day of MSNBC getting riled up by Rachel Maddow. Trump being gone has made him so much more sane.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 05:52 PM
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She will believe whatever CNN and the NYT and her Twitter feed tell her. So it is very dependent on the discourse evolving. And given the incentives of capital to divide workers so they don’t work together I’m skeptical that that will happen. My wife is very smart by the way. Much smarter than me. But she’s very driven by whatever the normative beliefs are within her social context (UMC).
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 05:46 PM
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Oh relationship problems take two people to tango for sure. Politically I feel pretty OK with my ideas: they haven’t changed, leftist political ideas changed.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 04:55 PM
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Politics have chilled right out (thank you Biden). Sex is our problem now.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 02:15 PM
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The whole country did, weren't you paying attention? It was a fucked up time, like a low-stakes version of the Chinese Cultural revolution or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 02:09 PM
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My wife went all-in on liberal insanity (identity politics and anti-Trump fervor) during the Trump years. I'm liberal (socially, economically) but am a materialist and believe that class and money are the main drivers of inequality. She interpreted that as being basically a Nazi. It did a huge amount of damage to the marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 01:24 PM
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I think that’s a fair comparison. Note that SJW are a powerful force. They run places like google and the NYT and Hollywood.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 12:40 PM
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I tried a few times just because it would be so awesome if I was even a little bisexual. No dice, don’t like the D.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 04:19 AM
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TRP is (quite by accident) on the bleeding edge of consent culture with the LMR stuff. Their recommended behavior is to disengage (check your phone, withdraw attention) and let her prove she actually wants your sexual attention. This is way more in tune with the concept of "affirmative consent" then making out for 5 minutes and trying again, which is the typical way LMR is handled by normal guys. It's absolutely the opposite of coersion.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 12:50 AM
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Prostitutes!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 12:32 AM
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I'm not against the eating ass, but the slapping and hair pulling and choking seems really performative.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 12:01 AM
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Gen Z women are world champions at getting sexually degraded. It’s honestly shocking to us old folks.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 10:43 PM
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Completely bogus complaints that have been taken seriously in the last several years by our society: mansplaining manspreading the "campus rape epidemic" the "pay gap" the "pink tax" If we can take these complaints seriously we can take the incel epidemic seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 08:14 PM
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If sex was the reason men do anything, there wouldn't be fat dudes walking around in the States, since physical fitness is pretty much the reason why a guy gets laid or not in the first place. This was a pretty solid observation.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 08:11 PM
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Unfortunately not. It sure is shallow, but male sexuality is absolutely the engine powering the competition and innovation in society.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 06:33 PM
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Bravo!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 05:27 PM
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It's pretty much the main reason men do anything. Which is why we have civilization (housing, health care, civil rights). No one (sane) is asking for state-issued girlfriends. Or even a return to the bad old days of monogamy for life. Just a little perspective and empathy, which "haha it's not a need" is the opposite of. Otherwise, like the guy upthread said, abortions not a need either. In fact watching women freak out over the law changes in Texas has been pretty funny (and I'm literally pro-a…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 04:46 PM
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Or most medical care. Or housing. Or civil rights. Almost nothing is a need by this definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 03:12 PM
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Had my first threesome just last month!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 03:04 PM
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I mean, she’s a girl. She can find another guy to leach off of in exchange for regular blowjobs any time she wants. If a guy was getting kicked out on the street after a breakup I’m sure you wouldn’t even be talking about it. Equality means women are responsible for the consequences of their actions, just like men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 02:28 PM
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You can NEVER tell someone to leave ... your home that you invited them to stay in, because they won’t fuck you. I disagree. If a woman doesn't put out and I'm not married to her, and we're staying in my house, her ass is going to the curb. If she doesn't like that she should have thought about that earlier.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 12:23 PM
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or Menopause
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 11:57 AM
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Just wait till your partner hits Menopause. I haven't fucked my wife in a decade.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 11:50 AM
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You're the one person (or two I guess) who likes 69!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 11:22 AM
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Yeah all humans are rationalization machines. Women are just given a lot more slack by society but men are just as delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 10:45 AM
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You can go way over the top before they will suspect it is fake. People will not be expecting this level of deception. Go for it!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 07:39 PM
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Absurd. Let men work for pussy if they want it so bad. The government shouldn’t be subsidizing the commercial sex market. Just regulate and be done with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 06:26 PM
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LMAO most married women do this
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 02:29 PM
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Some women have prostates.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 01:10 PM
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Class is a Taboo subject in America. People pretend it means income.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 11:28 AM
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Yeah men are simple. Honestly I am jealous of women over that. Having the opposite sex be so simple makes dating a lot more straightforward. On the other hand being so complicated and having literally no ability to introspect must be crazy-making so maybe men are better off.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 10:24 AM
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That’s seeking.com It’s already a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 05:38 PM
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Yeah but they would grow the economy. And their kids would integrate fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 12:22 PM
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Sure but you're probably not typical. The core competency of a prostitute is making a man feel like he's awesome in bed when he's not. Doing the literal opposite probably doesn't come naturally.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 12:28 AM
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Whores are great for learning how to last and not cum too fast. They aren’t much good for learning how to pleasure a woman because they will always lie and say whatever you are doing is awesome. LMAO not that different from regular women now that I think about it!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 09:50 PM
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I just love the fact that red pillers are acidently on the cutting edge of consent culture. It’s pretty funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 08:35 PM
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Swole Bezos is hot AF to be fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 08:25 PM
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Why do these degenerate Arabs need to poop on anybody tho? I understand the girls but the poop thing is just weird and gross. Don’t do anything trust is too gross for porn is a pretty decent rule of thumb sex-wise.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 08:24 PM
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Yes. Most top tier men do what they do for pussy. They will never admit it but that’s the motivation.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 08:23 PM
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Man Germans are hilarious.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 08:19 PM
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Maybe theoretically. The cultural norm is to keep making out and try to change her mind. Which is toxic AF. It’s indulging dishonest behavior just so women can put 100% of the responsibility for sex on men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 08:18 PM
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Eh we could import a million Indian / Chinese / African STEM nerds a year and it would be all upside. Immigrants integrate within a generation.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 07:16 PM
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Seriously western countries are at below reproduction levels. We should be paying way more for kids. Or have better immigration policies.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 07:05 PM
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The normal way of handling a girl saying no is making out for 5 more minutes and trying again. Which is really kinda rapey. Pulling away and making her prove she actually wants your sexual attention is much more in keeping with the ideal of enthusiastic consent.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 07:00 PM
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This is at the FKKs? I had no idea it was an orgy type situation. Apartment brothels I’ve been to (in Madrid, SF, London) are careful to make sure men never see each other. I can see the appeal. Watching people fuck is hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 01:25 PM
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How did that happen?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 12:07 PM
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TRP says to withdraw attention and check your phone. Way less rapey than blue pill ways of handling LMR.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 10:50 AM
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Makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 10:09 PM
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U trying to get married again? Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 02:41 PM
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MMV?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 11:24 PM
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I can assure you they are very real.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 04:41 PM
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I guess you don’t like Asian girls? San Jose and San Mateo are chock a block full of hot Korean girls and that’s the high end price.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 04:21 PM
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270 in the SF Bay Area. But yeah prices vary by region. And yeah, she might be 25 instead of 20.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 03:58 PM
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Not Europe, even where it is legalized. Are you thinking of East Asia?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 03:05 PM
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Definitely not the same as 2 college kids boning. You are sober, and she actually knows how to give a good blowjob are two major differences. I’m not against relationships at all. I just don’t think there’s any reason to put pussy on a pedestal when it is so readily available on demand. It only has good impact on my self esteem, mental health, interactions with women, etc. Like a lot of guys spend there lives wishing for a threesome and obsessing over it. I just did it because I felt like it one…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 02:26 PM
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Feds really don't care at all about prostitution. Every city in America has open massage parlors that are obviously brothels. If they wanted they could shut them all down tomorrow (everything in america is absurdly over-regulated, this wouldn't need to be criminal or civil cases, just code violations). Once a year a Kamala Harris type will grandstand for the cameras about shutting down BackPage or whatever. It's not treated seriously like drugs or financial crime or something. I can't type "coca…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 12:41 PM
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I mean that only helps the alphas.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 10:45 AM
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Unless they are Indian I guess haha.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 10:39 AM
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All men pay for sex one way or another. And yeah of course it’s unattractive to talk about, that’s why you don’t talk about it. Doesn’t change the impact it has on your mindset.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 10:36 AM
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Men are always willing to put in effort. The main difference is that women didn’t have easy access to the hottest guys within a 10 mile radius. Video games and porn are a cope not a cause.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 10:34 AM
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There were a lot fewer incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 03:07 AM
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Getting casual sex was easier in the 90s man. I was there.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 02:53 AM
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IDK man. I guess 300$ isn’t that much to me in the grand scheme of things. Fucking a hot 20 year old for an hour who does literally every perverted thing you can think of with enthusiasm absolutely makes you more confident effective and dominant. It probably has positive ROI for anyone who has a job where their personality makes a difference. Try it before you knock it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 10:59 PM
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No he's talking about the Vietnam war, baby killers, spitting on veterans, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 08:56 PM
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Super legit take. It's not the same. It's better in some ways and worse in a lot of others.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 07:37 PM
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Don't worry bro, you'll find a good ho. Use protection and have fun!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 07:35 PM
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They are never clean. Wrap yo shit boyo!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 07:31 PM
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Prostitutes plus marriage is really the winning combination. You get the kids, the companionship, and the sexual variety.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 07:06 PM
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Yeah but pussy is good. And it's not that expensive. If you want some you should rent some. You can always be desired by some other girl, the confidence you get from regularly fucking hot women will make you more attractive not less attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 07:05 PM
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Nice one bro
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 06:43 PM
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I mean just type "adultsearch your_city" into google and send a text to the girl whose picture gives you a boner. Its not that hard. If you're too scared to handle that you're a wimp and you deserve to remain a virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 06:29 PM
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Escorts / prostitutes / whores are amazing. Every man should be comfortable paying to bang a hot girl. It changes your whole perspective on everything immediately.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 06:25 PM
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I mean better then most men (who don't even notice or think about cloths). Not better than a man who actually does well.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 05:29 PM
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Yeah so leave. And before you leave get good enough that you'll be able to find another mate. Possibly that process will convince your spouse to pay more attention to you. Low odds on this but that's OK because "the stay plan is the same as the go plan".
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 05:23 PM
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Women can give excellent fashion / hair / skincare advice. They have no idea about workout advice or how to get a girl to date you advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 04:26 PM
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So why do all the women on the original thread agree with the OP then? Even here many women are acting like the advice was mysogynistic rather than realistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 12:55 PM
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Hang on. You know more so tell me. Is it easier to fix your jaw or your chin? I think I read chin is the one you can fix (jaw is major surgery and a total nightmare if I'm not wrong?).
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 12:53 PM
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You're saying the virgin doesn't want a girlfriend? Of COURSE he wants a girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 10:34 AM
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A 26 year old virgin is not doing better than most. He's in danger territory of becoming super-weird and forever alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 10:33 AM
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Sounds like it's working out for him so far! He should just keep doing what he's doing, maybe he'll get a girl by the time he's retired.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 02:11 AM
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But the boyfriend literally used this approach to get the girlfriend. So it's also how you talk to women you want to settle with.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 02:01 AM
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Yeah this is fake i think. It's too perfect.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 01:38 AM
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But they know the context is a guy who doesn't have a relationship. So it's bad advice and they should know it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 01:37 AM
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Sex with prostitutes.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 12:57 AM
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His advice was pretty sound. You want to look like a guy with options. And don’t bring flowers to a first date ffs.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 12:31 AM
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If his approach was so terrible to her she wouldn’t have responded. Women always have a decent number of options, this is the approach she responded to. She has zero self awareness.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 12:23 AM
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But the boyfriend used that same approach to become her boyfriend! So it obviously works on her. And it obviously works for getting girlfriends in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 12:17 AM
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wear tighter cloths
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/21 10:05 PM
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tummy tuck!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/21 06:42 PM
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Social manipulation happens too fast and naturally for a lot of it to be conscious. If you talk to people who are good at it a lot of them don't have an explicit mental model of it and are just relying on instinct. It's people that are bad at it that think about it in very explicit terms and do it consciously.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/21 04:42 PM
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Get Pelvic Floor Therapy afterwards if you need it. Babies can fuck up your shit when they come out, you need to take care of yourself so you don't fall into the trap of trashing your sex life permanently (which happens to many couples).
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/21 04:35 PM
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Thats honestly OK.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/21 04:31 PM
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Holy shit this is good detailed feedback. malefashionadvice is so far up it's own asshole, it's hard to get this kind of crisp advice out of the sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/21 04:27 PM
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Your jaw is the only thing you can fix face-wise as a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/21 12:34 PM
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They go on tinder and get dick delivered to their door. They don't have to go anywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/21 09:10 PM
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It was hard to buy in US. Eventually found a used copy on Ebay. It looks a bit like Vernon Subutex. You should check that out if you haven't already!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/21 01:59 PM
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Bro the escorts don't respect lockdown rules. Just go bang one already, there's nothing wrong with it. Glad you are lifting. Making a career for yourself is a good idea. If nothing else it will give you money for escorts and other life adventures.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/21 03:46 PM
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A lot of incels are like "how can I know it will work for sure?". This is to address that critique. All you can do in life is increase your chances and this is a high-percentage move.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/21 01:21 PM
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It's not too late. Make a few male friends. Do mushrooms with them. Get fit. Learn to dance. Smoke weed and drink. You got this bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/21 12:49 PM
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I second this emotion. If you want a job done right you hire a professional.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/21 12:46 PM
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If you can you should!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/21 12:22 PM
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It’s just different bars. There’s bars where 60 year olds hook up, man. Retirement communities in Florida have orgies and shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/21 10:19 AM
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You can literally increase your openness somewhat permanently (studies show it lasting at least a year) with mushrooms. Consider it, it’s one of the only ways to change your actual personality. (Don’t do it if you have severe mental health problems obvi).
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/21 10:16 AM
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I’m late 40s and every time I travel women hit on me. Women my age, mind you. There’s a sex market for every age, 27 is approaching his prime (early 30s).
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/21 10:12 AM
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Stop bragging dude. Good for you but weed isn’t magic get laid pills. It is a good strategy though.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/21 10:07 AM
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Look it’s not a guarantee. But it’s a good strategy, and if you don’t use drugs you aren’t really trying to get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/21 10:07 AM
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vodka and club soda it is then.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/21 02:17 AM
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Just smoke weed and drink club soda. Or drink weed infused club soda.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/21 12:24 AM
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Haha sorry not sorry ;-)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 08:32 PM
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Obviously. I’m just making fun of the neurotic men who worry about this, and the neurotic women who propose solutions like this. People have been getting drunk to fuck for 1000s of years. It’s never going to stop, it’s half the point of alcohol that it reduces your inhibitions.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 07:03 PM
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Just give a fake name bro. Stop being so neurotic.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 06:31 PM
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I mean I paid her what I owed her including a decent tip so I think she was reasonably satisfied with the transaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 06:03 PM
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I was with a super ugly girl last month. I mean literally looked like a witch and had a potbelly. I was worried I wasn’t going to be able to get hard for her. She had sexual techniques that absolutely rocked my world. Looks aren’t everything. Enthusiasm and skill can go a long way.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 03:49 PM
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Oh shit this sounds awesome buying it now.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 12:58 PM
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For the modern guy, if you are "husband material", it just means you need to be prepared to break up over sex, and continuously do so until you find your "wife material". Not just until you find your "wife material". You have to be ready to break up over sex your entire life.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 11:07 AM
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Ha! I recommended Platform to a guy on here yesterday. Which book by Beigbeder would you recommend?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 11:02 AM
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I mean we kinda do, at least in the US? Poor people are pretty fucked, and there's no limit to how rich you can get.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 03:59 AM
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Yeah. You're a normal man. I'm the same way. I'm just explaining my understanding of the female perspective on this.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 03:13 AM
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the real Red Pill, far from being misogynistic as its critics claim, is the recognition that women are in fact people too This is it. Women are people. So always self-interested, usually dishonest and sometimes evil. Just like men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 02:05 AM
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I won't take an incel seriously if he hasn't cultivated a social drinking and weed smoking habit. And honestly they should all drop acid or try mushrooms once or twice to see if it helps them reframe things.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 02:00 AM
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You don’t have a choice what it is. You are in an environment with certain characteristics. You do what you do to get what you want. It might or might not be worth it. Any way you look at it none of this is fair, and stressing about fairness won’t get you closer to whatever your goal is.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 11:40 PM
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I mean it is what it is. I know exactly how much it sucks. Lift weights and do drugs, you will find low inihibition girls who are dtf eventually.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 11:32 PM
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It’s crazy how many tv shows use words like cuck and beta etc. it really is leaking into the mainstream. I don’t understand how since no one I know would ever mention any of this stuff in public.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 11:31 PM
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Life ain’t fair bro. Sexual selection is brutal. Git gud.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 11:29 PM
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It’s not even that. People often dramatically lose their sexual desire in marriage. If this happens more or less in parallel it’s fine, if it happens to one person it’s hugely destructive. And it’s not any bodies fault. It just sucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 10:48 PM
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For many women fashion is self expression / ingroup signaling. To think of it in such a functional way seems like you don’t care what other people think of you (that you are under using such an important signalling channel). Basically from their perspective your perspective seems low key autistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 08:13 PM
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MLM is a good one
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 08:11 PM
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Wearing the same shoes everyday haha that’s like most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 07:45 PM
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You might enjoy the novel Platform, by Michel Houellebecq.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 07:10 PM
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Yeah I got my permission slip filled out and everything. /s Of COURSE my wife doesn’t know. This is literally what hookers are for. It’s the vast majority of their customer base, married dudes who make good money and whose wives won’t put out.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 06:59 PM
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Every time I travel on business I meet women that would be dtf. They are my age and generally decent looking. I turn them down and fuck hot young hookers instead because they are hotter and will do absolutely anything I want sexually, and won’t create any future complications. But yeah there are women out there. There’s a dating market for every age.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 06:48 PM
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It’s status for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 06:44 PM
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Yeah status is contextual. The guy writing the checks has high status within that organization, at an industry party or conference, whatever. At a nightclub his status is out of context and illegible so it doesn’t help. Meanwhile a movie stars status is legible everywhere, and in most contexts his fame makes him high status. Key point is it’s status not money that gets the panties wet.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 06:41 PM
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I don’t know man. I live a life of quiet sexual desperation and I’m late 40s. Men want to bang no matter what. Women after kids and esp after Menopause don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 06:36 PM
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Of course it didn’t. The only thing that works is having the credible option to leave. Dread game is toxic and it really sucks that this is the only thing that even sometimes works in these situations.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 02:04 PM
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Because they don’t like it. But they are under no illusions that they can change it. Women ideally aren’t supposed to even know about RP. It’s not a political organization, it’s guys figuring out how to get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 11:20 PM
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Don’t slice those balls!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 10:33 PM
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Redpill asks nothing of women. It’s a praxology not a social movement.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 10:19 PM
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Yeah this is where FDS and redpoll actually agree!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 09:04 PM
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Savage!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/21 01:30 PM
1

Same thing happened to my bro. He got off easy (xxxx a month child support). He’s pretty wealthy but it’s all in crypto so she couldn’t prove it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/21 01:09 PM
4

Yeah seems like. Thai and Korean girls just provide it by default.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 11:28 AM
3

BBBJ / CIM is pretty standard. Not a kink and not usually an extra.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 10:25 AM
3

It makes the transactional fucks a damn good value.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 03:28 PM
3

Men want validation AND variety. Rich men will pay 10x-1000x per fuck to make it seem non transactional (see boat and sports car purchases).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 02:58 PM
1

Fixit game is the strongest game.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 07:36 PM
1

That’s what alter boys are for duh.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 07:34 PM
2

The Rosetta Stone to decoding male motivation.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 07:33 PM
1

Women are the ones who ask for this stuff. More women want to be choked and slapped than guys want to do those things. I don’t know if it’s a fad or what.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 03:20 PM
1

Red Pill would agree AMALK. It’s not offensive. Men have male nature just like women have female nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 10:49 PM
2

Olympics doesn’t pay shit. It’s not about money. It’s not about the specific sport either. It’s about besting all the men in something that society has deemed important.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 08:24 PM
1

Unstated context: We’re talking about anal and deep throating, not BDSM. It’s because they can get hotter guys for casual than they can for a long term relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 08:22 PM
2

Both but the status is shorthand proof and is sufficient even if those underlying traits are lacking.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 02:20 PM
6

Poppy what you are missing is the status component. It’s not the money, it’s being better than ever other male at something important.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 02:16 PM
2

She’s arguing for Red Pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 02:12 PM
8

It’s status and power that is sexually attractive, not money.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 02:10 PM
1

Can confirm.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 02:06 PM
1

Glad I could help. Basically if you are so inhibited that you don’t do drugs or drink, you probably need the low-inhibition effects of them even MORE than an average person.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 01:12 PM
2

Yes most men do most of what they do to attract women. Even monks are probably running off of sublimated sexual energy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 01:11 PM
1

Empathetic caring understanding dudes are definitely the ones getting laid all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 01:21 AM
2

Everyone’s greedy. He’s very smart, is clearly aggressive and understands tech business and media. I was going to say he’s a sociopath but given how nervous he is public speaking I’m not sure that’s correct. He’s way too neurotic to be a sociopath.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 12:56 AM
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He also does shit like learn to fly helicopters to impress girls. Clearly has a stylist who designs his outfits. Honesty it’s crazy how dudes who are worth 180B still can’t rest on their laurels and have to chase pussy just like the rest of us.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 12:52 AM
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I often wonder why the hell women excel in stuff. Like I get why they become doctors, but why do they become brain surgeons? Men are clearly sublimating their sexual drive / executing a mating strategy. But women must actually really want to do they shit if they do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 12:40 AM
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Men who are married and have kids still want to be attractive to other women. Many have very shitty sex lives / dead bedrooms. He himself has clearly prioritized being attractive, to the point of lifting heavy and using steroids. So he clearly cares.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 12:36 AM
1

Swole AF
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 12:32 AM
0

LMAO you don’t understand men at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 11:57 PM
1

Bezos looks hot AF now that he’s injecting T (and god knows what else) and lifting heavy. Swole Bezos is a meme for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 09:57 PM
10

Because everything men do IS to get with women. It’s male solipsism.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 09:48 PM
1

Yeah you need to get laid bro. Very common condition, don’t worry it’s not fatal and treatment is easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 05:39 PM
1

Low key the decision many sexpats make. Move to a country where you have no friends family or ties to the culture. Interact only with whores and random other sexpats (who are random retired German plumbers or whatever, not people you are likely to have much in common with). Die early because of sub par healthcare. I guess you have beer and the internet and tv but it’s not that different.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 05:37 PM
2

Oh man can you imagine how bitchy they would be to each other if they were a couple?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 05:09 PM
1

Try all the weeds.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 04:58 PM
1

Eh if you take care of yourself your 40s and 50s can be OK generally. Do lots of cardio and eat right. My big shock was how soon Menopause came. 45 seemed really early to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 12:38 PM
0

No. Be normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 12:19 PM
3

Culturally enforced monogomy (at least of the level of requiring people to be "going steady" before they have sex) would probably benefit women as much as men. In fact that's sort of the FDS platform.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 12:18 PM
0

That's obviously fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 12:15 PM
1

Not at all
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 01:48 AM
1

Yeah that’s fair
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 01:48 AM
1

Pussy is pussy. And women like that are probably pretty freaky in bed.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 01:40 AM
1

damn you smooth as hell
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 12:16 AM
2

Would hit as long as my friends didn't find out about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 12:14 AM
1

haha yeah your fucked. Oh wait I'm fucked too. Damn.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 12:00 AM
2

It's way worse than you are fearing. This is yet another situation where society tells polite lies to keep the sheep docile (stuff like "some* women experience increased sex drive after Menopause" and "nursing homes are overrun with STD cases because everyone is boning"). 17%-45% of women experience painful sex after Menopause. If sex is painful they won't want to have it, that makes sense. https://www.menopause.org/for-women/sexual-health-menopause-online/sexual-problems-at-midlife/pain-with-pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 11:35 PM
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Literally the only people who give young men good advice and tell them the truth. They are venal idiots for sure, but as exiles from polite society they have the benefit of being able to point out that the emperor has no cloths. Indeed, if you had only 2 words of advice to give a young man, "lift, bro" would be hard to beat.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 11:27 PM
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doing the heavy lifting for yourself Literally the first advice Red Pill gives young men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 09:28 PM
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Thanks. I'm aware it seems to be bullshit, although I'm conscious of my own biases. She also doesn't really think it's a problem since she doesn't cum from PIV, so on her side there's not much motivation to look into solutions.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 08:02 PM
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Hoping it will help with dealing with pain related to vaginal atrophy (from Menopause). Kind of a hail mary, but it's not like there are other options (her gyno has gotten her very scared of cancer risk from even localized HRT).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 07:44 PM
2

Do you have any idea how many penises have been in that mouth The absolute neuroticism of dudes lmao. We're all swimming in bacteria, get over it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 07:29 PM
2

the fathers dont know either.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 06:41 PM
2

You cant get less than zero matches.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 06:40 PM
1

Has anyone tried weed lube (with THC, not just CBD)? How was it?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 06:19 PM
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LMAO. 2.5% of the US population died to end slavery. Like 10 women total died for us to have the gynocentric society we have now.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 06:15 PM
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Women gain no supports from males who only see them as sex objects, but only harassments and trauma. Literally all of Feminism is propped up by male benevolent sexism. Women complain and men change society in response to the complaints and then women complain about the second-order effects of the change they just asked for.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 05:36 PM
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Well but everyone knows that is bunk. Even the Democrats abandoned it the second Biden was accused.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 03:35 AM
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Some people have a consistent worldview they are trying to defend. Some people are just shitposters trying to win debates. Women are people.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 02:52 AM
1

No just on this subreddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 02:50 AM
2

Don’t knock it till you try it bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 11:44 PM
0

Women don’t value maintaining the quality of their sex lives. They hit the gym right before divorce, when the kid is 5.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 08:44 PM
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Women are humans and humans are liars. There's no reason to trust them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 07:52 PM
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Oh shit flashbacks to middle school! That’s awful.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 06:01 PM
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Thank fuck. It's the perfect crime, with the boomers taking the weight for our sins.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 05:09 PM
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We would waste less energy if women just admitted obvious things that make a man attractive that so we could build consensus and move forwards. Women like men with the kinds of muscles that men can realistically build non-professionally. Women like men with status within their subculture. Women like men that other women like. Women like men who have had sex with multiple other women, and find virgins unattractive. YEARS of person-hours have been wasted debating these kind of obvious truths on PP…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 05:05 PM
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1) Women and men are more open to women as friends than men (since men can be dangerous in the worst case and are generally low value until proven otherwise). 2) Women have access to social events more than men, and social events are where social connections and new friendships can form.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 04:42 PM
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He's not wrong. It's just that we should also all log off reddit. This shit ain't healthy either.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 04:34 PM
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I mean all of life is a play. If you're wearing the right costume you're 60% of the way towards whatever the role is. Nobody's triggered as far as i can see.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 04:32 PM
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ttttttttttttttttttttalkin' bout my gennnnnnnnnnnarationnnnnnnnnnn.........
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 04:28 PM
3

I'm Gen X
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 04:02 PM
1

Just buy clothes at REI, man. It's not hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 03:51 PM
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welcome to the metaverse, bitches.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 03:49 PM
2

I agree with all of this. Appreciate the good vibes!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 03:40 PM
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It often seems like the same women talking out of both sides of their mouth on these debates. It is very labor intensive to check though.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 02:31 PM
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Empathy account is drained unfortunately. Last 20 years have been spend empathizing with any crazy idea that comes into women's collective head (manspreading, mansplaining, campus rape crisis, gender pay gap) while women affirm that they will never have any empathy for any issue that effects men. Feminism is powered by benevolent sexism, where men are expected to always care about any complaint women have. Many men are just done with that dynamic. Without wanting to be MRM because frankly, eww.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 02:29 PM
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If people (men?) will be terrible anyway why not tell the truth? Just seems simpler to me. Hypocracy is not a particularly big sin, but more honesty would definitely help the transition of gender roles to occur faster. Which feminist women claim to want.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 01:51 PM
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All I know is ladyboys are hot AF.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 01:04 PM
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You are a grown man and trapped in a trap that adults.should just know how to walk out of. Are you talking about gaming or reddit? haha
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 01:04 PM
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Either they dress provocatively to attract men and get called attention-seekers who would argue about this if they owned it? It's obviously what's going on.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 01:00 PM
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Women exaggerate it too. When they are complaining EVERY woman complains about all the unwanted attention they get. When threads like this come up somehow all those complaints disappear and men are delusional for thinking they get less attention than women. The gaslighting is out of control.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 12:50 PM
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Such as?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/21 09:05 PM
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Dudes will not listen. Legalizing prostitution is awesome but it won't change gender dynamics like people think it will. Possibly normalizing will do more? I doubt it. Dudes that live in places like Pattaya seem totally broken and do stupid shit like marrying bargirls all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/21 01:52 PM
1

That would make my month. Maybe my year!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/21 12:21 PM
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Women as well. SO MANY women just stop fucking their husbands once they have a kid. Like, how did they think this was going to work?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/21 12:20 PM
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Silicon Valley is full of dudes who make 300K a year and can't get a date. Sarah Cooper (yes that one) even made a funny cartoon panel about it. https://thecooperreview.com/difference-between-living-in-new-york-and-san-francisco/
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/21 12:11 PM
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Just like it does in Germany and Australia?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/21 12:08 PM
1

Maybe he’s a millionaire?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/21 12:12 AM
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Why would it be easier for them? Tinder? Internet marketing of prostitution? Not disagreeing with you just unclear what you are referring to.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/21 04:07 PM
4

I got a minor beef with it because I like eating pussy. Which I haven’t had a chance to do since my woman went over to #teamhitachi.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/21 04:03 PM
3

I agree with everything you wrote, yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/21 03:50 PM
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Isn’t THAT statistic nuts? If i divorced I would never marry again.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/21 03:49 PM
1

truth
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/21 03:35 PM
2

If you guys aren't dirt poor you should bang some hos. Clear out the old pipes and get some life experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/21 03:33 PM
1

Money doesn't help as much as status.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/21 03:13 PM
2

most men i know would not hesitate to leave a relationship they found unfulfilling, Not after marriage. Women always are the ones who divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/21 01:59 PM
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fuckbois are designed by women. THOSE are the men women reward with sex. If you want masculinity to look different, fuck different men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/21 01:29 PM
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ike a fucking job opportunity in the field that he wants. What is more important than that? How does that mean I don’t care? This is great. This is the kind of stuff that friends do for each other. And I don't believe that you don't make friends without considering their utility. Every relationship except family is based on mutual exchange of value. There's no reason to be friends with a taker, a leach, someone who is going to bring you down. Like you said, you had fun. You studied together. If …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/21 03:15 AM
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Yeah. Guys can like carry heavy stuff, usually can fix things, are good at business introductions sometimes. They basically built the modern world, they are good for a surprising number of things. If you have guy friends (or any friends really) that don't add value to your life you should drop them. And yes, having romantic access to women is a major problem that most men have. If you don't get that then hang around this sub for 5 minutes. You, as a female friend of his, have a unique ability to…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/21 02:57 AM
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I mean if you won't help him out with important shit in his life, why should he help you out with important shit in yours? Sounds like you guys aren't very close friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/21 02:23 AM
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Who said anything about being entitled to it? It's value you can provide to people you like. I go around looking for ways to make the lives of my friends better. Don't you do the same? Do you stay friends with people who DON'T do this?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/21 02:14 AM
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The modern dating market starts with fucking. If no girl is fucking you, you're not going to find love. If girls are fucking you, you can also date them / relationship them / wife them up / whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/21 12:12 AM
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That's what shit tests are for. Women can find out in minutes, without even consciously trying.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/21 09:27 PM
2

Is that something like a Poor Minority(TM)? https://slatestarcodex.com/2014/08/31/radicalizing-the-romanceless/ It was wrong of me to say I hate poor minorities. I meant I hate PoorMinorities! Poor Minorities is a category I made up that includes only poor minorities who complain about poverty or racism. No, wait! I can be even more charitable! A poor minority is only a Poor Minority if their compaints about poverty and racism come from a sense of entitlement. Which I get to decide after listeni…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/21 09:17 PM
4

Ali Wong is the shit. I like her a lot. From a male perspective, the SMP has a gini coefficient representing EXTREME inequality. The guys at the top are winning BIG over everyone else. So all these words about how the guys who get all the casual sex are really losers sound like platitudes to make the losers feel less bad about themselves. I totally get that from the female perspective it doesn't feel like this. Casual sex is like the 20th most important thing on your mind, it's a fun thing to do…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/21 08:30 PM
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Fuckboys are the top percent of men from a SMP perspective. Most men want to fuck a variety of women (even if they want to commit to one). Fuckboys are the only men that can get consistent casual sex, so they clearly have what women want. Are they good people or net contributers to society? Irrelevant. We're talking about their value in the SMP, not their ethics or economic contributions.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/21 08:16 PM
2

In what way?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/21 08:04 PM
1

Shower thought: those women are the alphas of the female world. The elite 20%!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/21 07:40 PM
2

Women who do that are awesome. And it does happen sometimes for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/21 05:29 PM
2

ah got it lol
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/21 04:56 PM
3

openly deny or accept the male suicide rate Aren't these the only logical options?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/21 02:54 PM
2

life insurance explains a lot
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/21 02:51 PM
1

Totally reasonable. the guys that need help are probably totally fine with the normal courting process (3 dates to bang is not such a long time anyway).
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/21 02:28 PM
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Yeah a woman who won't help you find a girlfriend (with her social network) or a ONS (with randoms when you go out) doesn't actually care about you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/21 02:27 PM
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If you have a reputation of a fuckboy, you're already set. That's the top 5% of men. I think most men are looking for a girlfriend. Only the guys who can actually get casual sex reliably (the fuckboys) look down on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/21 02:24 PM
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I mean that's a setup, right? Frankly that's very very helpful. The other thing women can do for you is wingman for you when you go out, but I've seen a lot of resistance to that idea as well. I think women hate even knowing how pro-active men have to be to meet women. They want to maintain the belief that everything "just happens".
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/21 02:01 PM
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I think this is an obvious idea. And I think this is a space where women can add incredible value to their male friends lives. Many western women, at least online, seem to feel that this is a disgusting thing to even ask of them. "It's not my job to help you get laid, dude." seems to be the attitude. Not sure why that is.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/21 01:46 PM
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At a broader level, women fail to acknowledge that masculinity is simply a reflection of whatever they value sexually. If they started having sex with shy software engineers RedPill would be all about learning Python. Fuckboys are basically designed by women: they are what women reward in the SMP. But women refuse to take responsibility for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 08:56 PM
4

Those are fun. However my wife thought me using that was gross. Sheer hypocrisy given that it’s her wand!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 02:17 PM
2

So don’t fuck guys that aren’t your boyfriend. Problem solved. This is all so easy. You are in control. You have what they want, set the terms.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 02:09 PM
1

Who says they don’t want to date you? It’s quite possible they would be thrilled to be your boyfriend. It’s just that the drive to go down that path is the male sex drive.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 02:08 PM
1

This is the genetic data from 10000 years ago. When agriculture was invented there was a choke point where many women were monopolized by each farmer Chad. In general the genetic record shows 80% of women and 40% of men reproducing, not 17 to 1.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 01:36 PM
3

A public park in Houston is like Mars for several months of the year.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 01:30 PM
2

Why is this sad? This is what keeps the human race from going extinct! This drive is what created civilization! Also think how awesome it is for you that the opposite sex is so simple and easy to understand. Women are a lot more complicated.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 01:26 PM
2

How does commitment get in the way of career? When you are married you have more time to work.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 03:12 AM
1

Yeah I’m old AF and love film and I am struggling to remember what Grace Kelly looks like
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 03:11 AM
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Gotcha.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/21 10:45 PM
1

Yes travel is frustrating for this reason. I originally thought to use it as a way to kinda force the issue. But she basically isn’t interested in exploring other ways to cum. Anyway we have kids now so travel is super unsexy. But good thought and thanks for the positive vibes.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/21 09:45 PM
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The Pulse Solo from Hot Octopus is a pretty amazing piece of kit. It’s a frenulum vibrator for men. It can take you from flaccid to orgasm in like a minute. The fact that you don’t have to get horny before using it is weird and awesome. You just turn it on and BAM! Orgasm.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/21 09:41 PM
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In what way? Is the issue that I got the stats wrong and it’s 20% of women who can cum from PIV? (Too lazy to look it up, now I’m on mobile haha). Honestly I think it’s a mix of both. Women vary in how sensitive they are that way, and some men are MUCH better at triggering it than the majority.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/21 09:22 PM
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It selects for the 20% of men that can make women cum from PIV. Maybe having a big dick and being able to last a long time is our equivalent of the peacocks tail.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/21 08:50 PM
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How is a woman’s orgasm maladaptive? I mean I know it’s not necessary for procreation but it seems good for pair bonding.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/21 08:40 PM
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I think in both cases it’s a self control issues. If a horny boy with death grip syndrome abstained for a week or two I’m sure he would be fine. Good luck getting that to happen though.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/21 08:37 PM
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I think I already said it wasn't permanent nerve damage. It's a habit. Calling it a preference is underselling it because once you have the habit, getting away from it takes a lot of work. So you don't have 100% free will anymore. Like internet porn or anything else that becomes a deeply ingrained habit. We all agree that the guys with death grip syndrome have an issue (because they can't cum from fucking a pussy, which seems maladaptive). Not being able to cum from oral, fingers, or regular pow…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/21 08:29 PM
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Phone typing sucks. ;-> But I mean have you played with one ever? It's like 5X as powerful as any other vibrator my wife has owned. It's so powerful it can't use batteries, it plugs into the wall. It makes sense to me that it would desensitize. Side question: why would incels care anyway? They don't have women, why would they care how women are jerking off? Is the hitachi the Chad of vibrators? (kinda, I guess)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/21 08:14 PM
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There's a whole thread on desensitization over here. Pretty much everyone agreed that it was a thing, even the hitachi fans (of where there are many: it's a pretty amazing machine tbh). https://www.reddit.com/r/sexover30/comments/piougs/hitachi\_wand\_anyone\_else\_experience\_this/
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/21 08:08 PM
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It's like with dudes and death grip from jerking too hard. For sure there's no PERMANENT NERVE DAMAGE. What there is is a very strong habit that is associated with a powerful reward (orgasm) and hard to break. A week would definitely not be enough time for my wife (she goes that long between orgasms as it is). I'm sure my wife could "recover" if she went on like a 3 month fast from the hitachi but she's definitely not motivated to do so. 3 months of it being harder to have orgasms is a big ask o…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/21 08:05 PM
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Um it happened to my wife. I've seen it first hand. The hitachi is quite a powerful piece of equipment ... as a dude I have a Tim Taylor MOAR POWER respect for it but with great power comes great responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/21 07:51 PM
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No true Scotsman effect. Whatever sex positive activists claim to support, the broader culture supports female sex toys and shamed male ones. And sex positive activists put little effort into changing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/21 05:32 PM
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Oh it’s clearly religious on some level, what they are doing. Cultish or demonic almost.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/21 02:04 PM
4

WHAT THE FUCK? These dudes watch 10 screens of porn at once? Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/21 01:46 PM
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Yes fleshlight use is still considered disgusting and creepy, but vibes and dildos are fine as long as it’s women that are using them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/21 01:43 PM
2

This might be a generational thing. My wife (GenX) definitely shamed me for experimenting with flashlights. Not positive that Millenials or Zoomers are any better though.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/21 01:38 PM
4

It may not be permanent (you can abstain and over time get back the sensation) but it’s a habit that’s hard to break. For either sex. I think death grip and hitachi syndrome are very similar dynamics.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/21 01:35 PM
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So I got in a thread on sexover30 the other day about hitachi wands and how women can get desensitized to the point that they can only cum from the wand. The women were pushing back a lot (because they love their hitachis) while pretty much confirming that desensitization was a thing. Sort of an interesting example of toys hurting the man and woman’s sex life.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/21 01:25 PM
2

I never understand this focus on careers thing. You know who has time to focus on their careers? Married people. Being single is a huge time and money suck.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/21 12:58 PM
2

Tattoos are usually about as artistic as the spray paint art on some dudes camero. People just have terrible taste. But good tattoos are hot AF.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/21 10:15 PM
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The redpill way of handling LMR (disengaging, checking your phone, withdrawing attention) is honestly a perfect approach from a consent perspective. If she wants it she can re-engage. It's less rapey then standard dating behavior, which is to keep making out and try again in 5 minutes.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/21 04:25 PM
1

Huge difference in not just your dating life but everything. You are the average of the 5 people you spend the most time with.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/21 04:18 PM
2

The automated hiring software analogy is sound
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/21 09:58 PM
1

Shockingly honest for a business
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/21 09:40 PM
2

Everything went wrong in our culture when couples dancing was lost. Foxtrot, Bachata, it’s all fucking in public with no commitment and plausible deniability. If we could bring it back half our problems would go away overnight.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/21 09:39 PM
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hahahahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/21 09:00 PM
2

What kind of wimp doesn’t fuck hookers just because they are illegal.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/21 07:45 PM
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Dude we were all there. It wasn't that long ago. Anyone who was declared a witch was hounded out of their job. It got down to the level of small music scenes and theater people and shit, it wasn't just celebrities. There was never any evidence provided for any of it. Some real degenerate men were taken down, along with some men who were guilty of nothing more than being heterosexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/21 02:20 PM
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Literally the entire point of metoo was getting men fired from their jobs on the basis of simple allegations without evidence. We were all there. It was a classic moral panic, and it lasted about as long as these things tend to, 6 months.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/21 02:10 PM
3

Drink do drugs work out do team sports. Get out there and find a metaphorical neolithic hunting party to be a part of!
/r/seduction09/09/21 11:20 AM
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Next time might be in the retirement home at my current rate.Those anecdotes are like one per decade (my 20s, 30s, and 40s).
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/21 12:17 AM
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Drugs and access to rich men who might be dateable for sure. Not sure about cash payment. They weren’t whores, they seemed like girls who partied too hard in their 20s and were now 31. They had jobs but not commensurate with the guys in the room.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/21 10:15 PM
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Like I said, high status in a low inhibition environment. I went to a ton of parties in college or my 20s that were nothing like that FOR ME. They were low inhibition environments, but I was just a dude. In these 3 instances I was “the man” due to my relative status.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/21 10:14 PM
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UConn. State school bitches be crazy. Was just visiting a friend who I had worked with the previous summer. Family wedding was a family wedding. Investor thing was an investor thing (I just had no idea the guys were complete degenerates until I arrived at the meeting and there were 2 girls for every guy that had no particular job description).
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/21 10:06 PM
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Honestly from your side you experience this world all the time (anytime you go to a low-inhibition environment and hook up). The point is most guys don't, because even the high status ones aren't high status in a way that is legible in the low inhibition environment. The DJ has higher status than the hedge fund manager at the club, for example. From your side it looks like a party and you hooked up with a guy that other girls were also trying to hook up with. But for a man who lucks out and make…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/21 07:51 PM
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1)ivy league student visiting a state school on a party weekend 2)out of town member of a prominent family at a wedding 3)investor being schmoozed by degenerate investor types who design their lives around attracting flocks of party girls (think pool party in Miami with cocaine type of scene).
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/21 07:20 PM
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It’s happened to me exactly 3 times in my life. I would give almost anything to recreate it more consistently.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/21 07:11 PM
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No I went back to their dorm rooms like a normal person. Bathrooms are disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/21 06:50 PM
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When you happen to slip into that other world it can be shocking to normal guys. You have to be high status in a low inhibition environment. And women act like you have always dreamed of. Sex "just happens" for once. It's a real mindfuck, because you realize there are guys who experience that all the time. This is where the spergy fixation on club bathroom blowjobs comes from. It really is shocking how different women behave when they think you are important and they feel they can cut loose with…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/21 06:16 PM
1

I actually like submissive men with dad bods tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/21 05:35 PM
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The plausible deniability thread was remarkable in it's gaslighting. If we can't agree on such obvious dating dynamics and tropes as "lets go back to my place for a nightcap" how can conversation here ever move forward towards uncovering some deeper truths? Women who ordinarily advocate emotional intelligence and sophisticated reading of body language and social cues were LARPing as straight-up autistic, seemingly just to score a point in a debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/21 01:22 PM
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Honestly if you're dating you're going to be having unprotected oral sex with people of unknown STD status. The risk is probably not that high (extremely hard to quantify). The point is it's culturally normative, holding fast on this point makes you a real weirdo.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/21 12:39 PM
2

Jordan Peterson videos is what she's thinking of.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/21 12:36 PM
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This happened to me in college once. Took a girl back to my place but it was a shithole and she backed out. Fair play on her part and lesson learned on my part.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/21 12:34 PM
1

That would work (whether true or not). Is it true?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/21 02:04 AM
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It’s more of a “be aware that I could take revenge” kind of thing. But again I’m a man, I don’t know shit about this.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/21 12:33 AM
2

I got no advice on this score except maybe talk up your firearm ownership and experience?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 11:37 PM
1

Yeah there’s no such thing as a sex contract.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 10:40 PM
2

Sometimes it means the one, sometimes the other. The ambiguity isn’t ideal
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 10:23 PM
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They get offended because otherwise they would have to admit they were lying. Once they get called on it the only move they have to commit to the bit or appear dishonest.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 10:21 PM
2

Oh even saying nothing physical is happening won’t work. One of the classic things women say on dates where you end up having sex is “we’re not having sex tonight”. Which translates as “I’m thinking about having sex with you”. Best just to have a blanket rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 10:15 PM
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I’ll tell you right now you should never accept an invite to be alone with a man of you don’t want him to try to kiss you. Unless he’s super super gay. Like gay married gay. And yes assuming boys are lying to you because they want to fuck you is a good assumption. Including when they lie about their lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 10:01 PM
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I mean you don’t have to agree to sex obviously. But you shouldn’t be surprised if he tries to kiss you, and if you don’t want that you shouldn’t accept the invite. How far you go is a delicate negotiation that happens in the moment, mostly using nonverbal communication.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 09:59 PM
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I can’t stop giggling imagining the scenario where you invite a girl back to yours on the premise of a bogus fish tank and she’s like “where’s the fucking fish?”.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 09:53 PM
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Oh the fish have to be there if you promised them. Like if the shit you promised isn't there you look like a scam artist at best or a serial killer at worst. And it breaks the paper-thin illusion that all this "just happened".
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 08:48 PM
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I mean I'm an old married dude so I've been out of the game for a while. My move would be "Come back to my place to check out <cool thing that we've been talking about during the date>". Like a first edition of a book or an album or my fish or something like that. That would definitely be code for sex, and if a girl was surprised that I came onto her under those circumstances I would assume she was autistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 08:18 PM
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Almost all of flirting is playing with plausible deniability, progressively coming closer and closer to communicating explicitly without going over the line.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 07:57 PM
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But how dumb do you have to be to not realize the plan was to have sex all along? Like I'm a mid-40s married dude and even I know about netflix n chill. If a guy invites you to his place alone, he's trying to fuck you. Always. We aren't complicated.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 07:48 PM
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Except feminism embraces the Women Are Wonderful effect. What's the bad thing keeping us down? The PATRIARCHY. What's the good thing that's gonna save us? FEMinism.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 07:00 PM
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based and Spartan-pilled
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 06:54 PM
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Yes class pretensions ruin a lot of good fun. Hard to avoid, humans spend all day signaling their tribal affiliations and King is unabashedly working class affiliated so UMC types have to shit on him.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 06:35 PM
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I mean King is the King of trash. He writes the absolute best trash and doesn’t try to pretend it’s high art or something. I’ve read everything he’s written except the endless fantasy novels he wrote (gunslinger etc). Trouble is you can’t really admit to reading King in my social circle so there’s no one to talk to about it. Supposedly the new cut of The Stand has 500 extra pages that the editor cut out of the initial book. Might give that a go next.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 05:56 PM
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I've been trying to read absolute trash (like Stephen King level stuff). It helps a bit. The phone is good, a physical kindle is better.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 04:52 PM
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I'm not proud. The internet has destroyed my attention span. I can't even watch TV anymore!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 04:06 PM
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I don't really have the attention span to read books anymore (thank you internet) but I believe what you wrote is true. The atomization of society in the West is a tragedy. Even the people that are winning aren't happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 02:57 PM
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Everyone participating in this community thinks they were hard done by the opposite sex somehow. I’m inclined to empathize. Life is hard and a lot of people get fucked over. At least we have electricity and running water and this internet bullshit to distract us.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 01:16 PM
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Your perspective is clouded by participation in this community. Look outside. Read the newspaper. Watch TV. Any problem expressed by women finds sympathy and attempts at policy and personal solutions from men. Even problems that in retrospect were bogus (manspreading, mansplaining) or overblown (campus rape crisis, wage gap).
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 12:01 PM
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Not really. Women clearly can’t empathize with male problems either. The divide goes both ways
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 11:48 AM
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This guy fucks (old ladies)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 05:35 PM
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Yups.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 04:50 PM
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It’s really interesting how even though every word of debate is recorded and auditable in text this still works. I wish there was a way to automatically call people on this kind of stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 04:11 PM
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hahaha i forgot that one. It's like the original sin of all this nonsense on both sides.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 11:20 AM
1

he last major misogynist revolt in the west was in 2014 What?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 09:18 AM
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So his motivation is the same. Only his tactics are different. Model is unchanged.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 09:09 AM
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Oh the bros provide the love. The hos just provide the sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 09:07 AM
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Communities of bros + affordable hos (like European prices) could do it. If MGTOW really did what it says on the tin it would help a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 01:50 AM
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Women are shamed less and have a socially accepted solution. Men are shamed more and have a solution that is shamed just as much as virginity is. How is that equal?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 09:33 PM
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I have plenty to say about men paying for sex. I’m absolutely in favor of it. The fact that it’s shamed as much as virginity doesn’t make it an ideal solution to this problem. But it’s still something I would recommend to pretty much any 20 year old virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 08:34 PM
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I mean it’s all that can be done so we should do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 07:53 PM
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Really good bros plus hos on the weekend would do it. Problem is the atomization of society. We're bowling alone. This is bigger than sex or companionship, it's a structural problem with modern life.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 07:25 PM
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In the future everyone will be a borderline retard with zero attention span that happened like 5 years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 07:16 PM
1

hahahahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 07:15 PM
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Of course not all men are alphas, but all men have the same desires, want the same stuff. The red pill model of male motivation is cartoonishly simple (yet surprisingly realistic in my experience). If a man is doing something, it's probably because he wants to fuck you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 07:07 PM
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You don’t have to able to get “anyone you want” to get an attractive person. That’s like a rich person claiming poverty because they can’t buy the Empire State Building. And no they are not shamed as much. For a woman it’s a minor negative to a minor positive. For a man it’s a major negative. But I don’t think we’re going to get any farther in this discussion. Peace!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 06:08 PM
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We’ll yes they can have sex with an attractive member of the opposite sex whenever they want. But also they aren’t disqualified from the SMP/RMP because of their virginity. It’s bad for sure, but its not as bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 05:50 PM
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Of course it’s an issue for both genders. And of course it’s worse for men. If you don’t agree you aren’t arguing in good faith or are detached from reality. It’s this pathological inability to admit that any problem is worse for men that is the topic of this thread. This is a great real time example of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 05:27 PM
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It’s literally the topic of this subthread.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 05:17 PM
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Look up thread for context. The entire discussion began with a conversation where a woman claimed to me that it primarily effected women. We’re talking in general about how women will always claim every single thing is worse for them, even things that are clearly better for them. Try to keep up. I’ve never said men idolize women being a virgin (some do but they are weirdos). Just that it’s less of an issue for women than for men, which is clearly true.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 05:11 PM
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Sure. But it’s clearly less of a problem for women then for men. And it’s easier for women to solve the problem if they want to. So saying it primarily effects women shows gross cognitive biases.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 04:45 PM
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Fuck man, a downvote for a dad joke? Lame.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 04:35 AM
2

That it does (I didn't notice, you caught me). However none of the descriptions of upperclass people in those models could possibly be poor. Where's the starving theater person in NYC? The academic whose parents came to the US in 1620 but is practically bankrupt (but rich in social capital)? Why is their no discussion of the crucial class signalling provided by ancient Volvo station wagons? The social class section felt phoned in is what I'm trying to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 12:02 AM
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I have to say I never thought republicans would actually do this. It's too good a campaign tool to ruin by actually achieving it, and it really activates the democratic base. They are like the dog that caught the car here. Abortion should be free and legal everywhere, but I am having a hard time getting worked up about it and secretly think it's pretty funny. Especially the whole narcing on your neighbor to win $10,000 thing. I guess I'm just an asshole.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 11:54 PM
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The last 50 years have been Feminism doing a continuous empathy grab from men. It's shockingly regressive if you think about it. Why should men rescue these strong independent women like they are damsels in distress or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 11:13 PM
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Class is completely distinct from income. One of the most confusing things about the US is that for some reason we pretend social class doesn't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 11:12 PM
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That's not fair, a lot of people here have sweet AMD setups. The new Ryzens blow anything Intel has completely out of the water.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 11:07 PM
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Look at Ed Sheehan Just become a mega popular musician bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 10:14 PM
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Black people are poorer now because their grandparents were oppressed and couldn't build wealth. Women grew up in families made of both men and women. There isn't a generational aspect to sexism the way there is to racism. When society changes the problem is pretty much instantly solved. So the fact that grandma couldn't get a credit card until 1974 is irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 06:58 PM
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Yeah if is was just accepted as truth there would be nothing to talk about. It is what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 06:51 PM
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heckin' wholesome.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 06:14 PM
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I had a conversation today where a woman was complaining that VIRGIN SHAMING mostly effects women. There's a very powerful cognitive bias towards thinking the womans problems are more serious, even in situations where it's clear that women have an advantage relative to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 06:09 PM
1

OkCupid, Tinder, human genome data, speed dating experiments
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 03:47 PM
2

LMAO for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 12:30 PM
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I'm probably 110. She's probably 140 (shockingly good memory and deductive reasoning).
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 12:29 PM
1

You're doing the Lord's work.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 01:17 AM
1

100%
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 12:58 AM
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He's hung up on the felony aspect.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 12:48 AM
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My wife is like twice as smart as me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 09:42 PM
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You're probably right now that I think about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 07:31 PM
2

Women like guys with abundance of women because that proves value. Abundance of males doesn't prove shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 07:12 PM
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This is the reason women don't like bi dudes. They can't control them with sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 08:41 AM
1

Your funny bro. Love it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 11:50 PM
1

Did you get their numbers?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 11:12 PM
1

Ignore this guy. Most hiring managers are morons, just like most prospective employees. The goal is to vibe.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 11:11 PM
1

Why it’s open is a genius question.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 11:09 PM
1

Why wouldn’t he let her do that? It’s not the gotcha you think it is. Women are usually the ones who aren’t up for prostate play with their dudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 10:59 PM
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Women don't fuck with their female friends or male friends the way they fuck with guys they are flirting with. Flirting is a unique skillset. It's not just normal social ettiquette.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 08:26 PM
2

Mexico is closer and cheaper
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 08:00 PM
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When you have status it's transactional. They're getting to experience your status. Guys don't seem to mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 06:16 PM
1

Thats one guy per night per club. Honestly bartender is more achievable for more dudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 06:15 PM
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NOT true. High status in a low inhibition environment ==sex. But your status has to be contextual to that low inhibition environment. Thats why bartenders and DJs of all people get laid. Men sense this and competition for these opportunities is intense.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 06:13 PM
1

Jordan Peterson has a video on it probably but if I wanted to be shouted at by an old guy I'd just call up my dad.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 06:09 PM
2

I never understand why God kicked them out of the garden just because Eve wanted to try Psychedelics. Just seems lame AF. God does NOT know how to party.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 04:44 PM
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I'm pretty sure he was a pedo (or Ephibophile I guess?). They wouldn't have needed to kill him if he didn't have juicy dirt on a lot of powerful people, which means SOMETHING was going on on that island besides banging sugar baby types.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 03:20 PM
2

And yea um a smoke show of a woman masturbating TO you masturbating? No, you can't find that for free on the internet, and yes, it's much hotter and totally worth any number of hours This costs like $2 a minute on cam sites. Don't spend hours of your time trying to get it for free unless you make below minimum wage.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 04:17 AM
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This is a solid point. Assortative mating is a very useful lense to use when looking at mating behavior, same as AF/BB. They both happen. Assortative mating actually describes the beta bux part ... that guy is her match, on her level. She just doesn't feel it sexually because she's fucked better.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 04:03 AM
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AWALT just means women have female nature. Red pill dudes would agree that AMALT as well, they're just not trying to fuck men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 03:59 AM
1

No shade man, You trade with the wallet you have.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 11:02 PM
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I think men and womens souls are equally dark. But there's a limit to how much evil you can do through manipulating, so women end up doing less evil. If we included all the evil shit men do to impress women, it would be way more than 50% of the evil though. Like I'm sure on some level Pablo Escobar was just trying to impress chicks and it got out of hand. But I don't think it's fair to blame that on women rather than the men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 09:00 PM
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No I'm just trying to spin it into a good story. 50 is an awkward number because 50 thousand is kinda low and 50 million is kinda high.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 08:58 PM
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This makes no sense to me either. Whores are awesome. They are super brave, they are good at what they do, and they are pretty much the only women disciplined enough to do their Kegels on a regular basis.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 08:57 PM
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Men do like 69% of the murdering tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 08:45 PM
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And gossip and slander and shaming. And playing "lets you and him fight". And child abuse. Anyone who went to middle school knows girls are as brutal as boys, but it expresses itself verbally and socially, not physically. Edit: pretty funny that even when you say that men do more evil than women, if you get AT ALL specific about what women do the downvotes start coming. Women don’t know how to accept a win.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 08:41 PM
1

the cause of *more than 50%* of the suffering The balance would be *less* than 50%, pretty sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 08:36 PM
1

Social intelligence means being able to make the right social decision (usually unconsciously) and act on it with sub second response times. It doesn’t mean being a neurotic systemizer like us. It’s a system 1 thing not a system 2 thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 02:38 PM
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As social primates it makes complete sense that women are attracted to socially dominant males. That’s how chimps and bonobos work, and they are our closest relatives.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 02:29 PM
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different definitions. but yeah women are attracted to social intelligence
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 01:44 PM
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Hey need to feel the social capital, and they need to feel he’s in command. Those things take learning on a part of the man to attain and almost anyone can attain it Still working on this part TBH. It's harder than it looks, for one person to be in command several need to be under him so it is a zero sum game with more losers than winners.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 01:37 PM
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Was about to say "wow this is amazing" and then clicked the link. Of course it's SlateStarCodex. The man is such a clear thinker and writer. Pretty funny that you can't admit to reading him in polite society.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 01:35 PM
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50 ... thousand?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 01:24 PM
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Men are violent and rapey as hell, and are the cause of more than 50% of the suffering in the world. Women are just as evil but are no good at violence so their evil comes out as manipulation, getting the men to do their bidding. But this wouldn't even work if the men weren't so violent to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 01:07 PM
1

Just trade like 100$ worth of crypto and talk about it like it’s $100,000.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 11:56 PM
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Trade crypto. Chicks love crypto.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 11:19 PM
1

That makes sense. Ho's are night owls haha. What website were you looking on in Ukraine?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 03:59 PM
1

Most appropriate use of that Eminem quote ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 03:20 PM
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Rich kids LARP as poor kids all the time, at least since the time of the beatniks in the 1950s.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 03:14 PM
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Why does texting in the evening get you lower prices? How hard do you negotiate?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 03:01 PM
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hobbies are an absurd way to try to get pussy. When women say to get a hobby, they just mean you should have a cool thing you can answer when they ask "what are your hobbies". Just say you ski or something and ski a few times every winter. Not having a cool answer to this question makes you look socially retarded, but spending 10 hours a week to have an answer to this question is even more retarded.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 02:50 PM
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Yes they are trading access for their pussy for some excitement. It's not just about wealth (there are lots of boring rich guys), it's about a certain kind of consumption of luxury goods (houses, cars, boats, drugs) in a low inhibition environment combined with status and excitement. It's catnip for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 01:46 PM
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Ha! I went to a party like that last week as well. All rich dudes. All broke AF women 20 years younger.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 03:19 PM
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I'm not talking about roided guys. I'm just talking about doing pull-ups every couple of days. Its painful but takes 10 minutes tops, and changes the way women look at you within 3 months. OTOH I know guys who have been playing guitar for 10 years trying to get laid. Epic waste of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 03:08 PM
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You don't spend ON her. You spend on yourself and let her see it it and participate as long as she keeps fucking you. Nice car nice watch nice cloths nice house nice vacations. She gets to stay in the hotel room with you and party as long as she enthusiastically consents to whatever you want to do sexually. What's the problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 02:59 PM
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Any guy can go to Thailand and get the same thing for less effort. Or London. Or NYC. Or Madrid. Or...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 02:49 PM
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Building muscles changes the way you walk, changes the way people talk to you and look at you. It's awesome. And it doesn't take much time with the right infrastructure (chin up bar in your house/office). Same thing with getting decent cloths and haircut. The problem is men don't know what that means and if varies by subculture, but a successful man from that subculture can probably guide a guy to the formula relatively quickly. Your main point is correct: hobbies are an absurd way to try to get…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 02:48 PM
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Yeah that's an obvious one.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 02:11 PM
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Yeah risk tolerance paradoxically goes up as you age. Like what do you have to lose? This is one of the dynamics that drives the "mid-life crisis" in both men AND women IMO.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 02:10 PM
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It's a rhetorical technique. Notice they never apply it to their own statements, only to yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 12:27 PM
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This is literally the only good part in the dating Taylor Swift fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 12:25 PM
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She’s the Schopenhauer of sex writers. It is indeed all sadness and suffering from her perspective. Which I think is pretty accurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 05:47 PM
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God I love Europe.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 09:28 AM
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LMAO men are simple as fuck. Any woman who doesn’t understand men must be a retard.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 06:57 PM
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Yeah that’s like a legit job women have.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 06:55 PM
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Well that's good. I love ketamine!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 05:10 PM
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Change your hobby to "doing cocaine while listening to electronic music" and watch the women flock to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 02:46 PM
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Do you really want to be boning women you barely know all the time? For most men this is their biggest dream.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 05:06 PM
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Creep shaming is ubiquitous in real world interactions. The only way to get anywhere as a man is to push bounderies a *little bit* with *high level of social IQ*. That's what "be confident" really means. I agree virgin shaming isn't something I hear about IRL. Is the response to "wow it sounds like that sucks" THAT toxic? I'm not judging, it just seems to me that in general women spend 100X the energy denying the problems men have than it would take to just admit that that particular problem exi…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 11:36 PM
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By taking a stand against virgin shaming, and being careful to not creep shame when no actual creepy behavior is involved. Also, a “wow it sounds like that sucks” is sometimes appreciated.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 10:36 PM
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How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 02:25 PM
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This is such a key distinction. Whores are like porn or video games, they are a fun pastime. No man is going to leave you for one.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 05:01 PM
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Shoutout to BillG! Rest In peace Steve-O!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 12:24 PM
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My taxi driver 2 days ago had a brother who was supposedly flying out of Kabul that day. Hope he made it! In general my take is that this is exactly like Vietnam. Corrupt puppet governments can never win against true believers, no matter how well they are funded.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 12:21 PM
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Yeah great tank movie.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 12:17 PM
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Or just cool boots. This is the easiest way to get 1-2 free inches of height.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 02:50 PM
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Great way to think about it. I don’t think many women realize exactly how much value they can bring to a young man’s life, or as you say that they can also gain from understanding male and female sexuality better.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 02:32 AM
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My first serious girlfriend pretty much did exactly this, and to this day I am appreciative of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 07:29 AM
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Money by itself doesn't attract as many women as you'd assume. The attraction is tied into other traits This is shockingly true. Women really dig power and influence and status more than money. Good reason to never retire, you bank account is not sexually attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/21 09:19 AM
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Or be a retired German plumber who moved to Pattaya.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 10:09 PM
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It's totally easy. Just take a plane to Bangkok and you can sleep with a different pretty woman every night.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 05:56 AM
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Thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 07:43 AM
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Eh what’s the big risk. Nothing you catch from eating pussy is gonna kill you. I would never fuck without a rubber, THAT would be crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 11:39 PM
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Not sure why u shame dudes that cum too fast? It’s not their fault and it’s hard to control. Do you think they want to cum too fast?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 08:59 PM
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Fair enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 05:54 PM
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As you point out yourself all pussy is questionable. Just dont think about where it’s been and you’ll be fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 05:51 PM
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Pussy is the opposite of a fetish, it’s what normal straight dudes are into.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 05:43 PM
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I don’t care man I even eat out whores LMAO. Pussy is awesome.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 05:38 PM
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What’s the big deal pussy tastes great.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 05:36 PM
2

If I’m ever single again I’m definitely picking up a weekend coke habit.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 05:30 PM
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Yeah pre masturbating is a good trick as well. Also thinking about sports is a trick guys swear by. Also benzocaine wipes or pretty much any antidepressant will work. But might make it difficult to cum at all, which ALSO really bothers women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 04:37 PM
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Not cumming in 5 minutes is pretty tricky if that’s what your body does. The cure is stop and start exercises plus kegals, is pretty involved and doesn’t always work.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 04:26 PM
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Don’t think OP is arguing against that. He just wants to know if he’s going to hard or soft, or should go a little to the left.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 04:25 PM
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In Mexico. In the only part of the resort without cameras. Right after they became worth tens of billions of dollars as a couple.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/21 06:12 PM
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Can’t believe she got away with killing her husband like that. One bad bitch.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/21 06:07 PM
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Sounds like you are FOB then. Nothing wrong with that but not especially relevant to the general discussion. American girls are not being kept in the kitchen cooking, the full grown women barely know how to use a microwave. They are being trucked around to soccer coaching etc with their brothers.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/21 03:52 PM
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Women love powerful dangerous men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/21 03:32 PM
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"wrap dumplings" is a tell that this is some third world country she is talking about, and not really relevant to the current discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/21 01:58 PM
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.Women are mostly attracted to goodness and safety in men Hahahahahahahahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/21 01:43 PM
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Bitches will do anything for a bump.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/21 01:32 PM
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heauxs Is that a French ho?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/21 12:45 PM
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very smart.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/21 12:43 PM
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Alpha is what gets sex without commitment. Which usually translates to social dominance/status/looks. It’s not complicated.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/21 10:09 AM
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LMAO will this replication crisis ever end?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/21 07:10 PM
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You go girl!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/21 09:32 AM
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Yeah literally nothing on her list drives attraction in women. It’s what they want in a partner that they are attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/21 09:25 AM
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Stop being a weirdo and drink socially. Unless you have an allergy or other specific health issue there's no reason to limit yourself like this.
/r/seduction11/08/21 07:38 AM
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Don’t do shrooms on a first date!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 11:14 PM
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Toastmasters is excellent advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 11:02 PM
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Women can be a male ally by dropping the unidimentional "male privilege/patriarchy" framing where women are always the oppressed class, and acknowledging that sex and gender are complicated, and each sex has advantages and disadvantages in modern western society.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 12:42 PM
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That’s an unfair standard. Socialists who favor big government still try to pay low taxes. Nobody puts principals over their own interests. I’m not sure why you’re so focused on tearing her down? She’s a good writer with an interesting perspective. And people listen to her because she’s a woman (men complaining about male problems are seen as weak and ignored. Yes this is that toxic masculinity thing the feminists are always talking about).
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/21 10:58 PM
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For example, she write eloquently about how the family court system treats men unfairly (she was a beneficiary of this effect and was still quite shocked at how easy it was to move her kids 2000 miles away from their dad). https://goodmenproject.com/featured-content/why-i-advocate-for-mens-rights/
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/21 09:39 PM
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They spoke up for men's rights. They acknowledged that men have some issues that are related to being men, without trying to blame it on "the patriarchy" (aka men). That's it!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/21 07:40 PM
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Karen Straughan (girlwriteswhat) is the most famous example. She's definitely a good writer and a passionate advocate for mens rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/21 07:37 PM
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Which is baffling when men are so simple and transparent
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/21 03:45 PM
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A man is as faithful as his options -Chris Rock
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/21 12:41 PM
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Ah yes well if you inherit money then it's easy to hide it from people who don't know your parents (up to a point anyway).
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/21 02:12 AM
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But they’ve done things that everyone knows made a lot of money. They run hedge fund X or founded company Y. They don’t need to wear their wealth and it’s impossible to hide.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/21 12:16 AM
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20 years ago that was true. Now we have the internet, and introvert girl uses it to connect with ridiculous dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/21 06:59 PM
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Might be too much for me. I’m 10 years in and it’s pretty much wrecked my marriage apart from everything else. But I can’t see co-parenting (my kids care is very complex) so leaving would mean not seeing my kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/21 02:41 PM
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Ridiculous man has his pick of women in real life, but women of PPD claim to want a boring dude. While the boring dudes all report being incels. Something doesn’t add up…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/21 02:14 PM
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Yeah real shit, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/21 12:00 PM
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Nice one, dude!
/r/seduction07/08/21 02:56 AM
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If you have a kid with serious health problems or special needs … that’s the rest of your life, spent on health issues and depressing shit. That’s the one I have experience with. I know 2 parents who’s kids became addicted to opioids. A separate kid tried to commit suicide. Overall I think there’s at least a 10% chance of each kid going sideways and trashing your life. Those arent good odds especially with multiple kids. This is in UMC circles btw, realize it sounds like a trailer park with all …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/21 01:56 AM
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Kids fuck up your life. They are wonderful but they just ruin you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/21 12:54 AM
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I think you did the right thing. Society is a whole mesh of different rules and systems. Not everything is going to go through a formal court system.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 11:45 PM
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Well that’s dumb. False accusations definitely happen (especially now that being a victim is trendy) and many rapists get away with it because it’s a hard crime to prove. There’s no good fix, it’s just a shit situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 11:11 PM
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Obviously most rape is from known men. Issue is usually it’s impossible to prove so convictions are predictably low.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 10:58 PM
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Obviously. That’s why when Rhode Island accidentally made prostitution legal rape dropped 20%.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 10:23 PM
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Obviously a woman who parties and gets blackout drunk is at high risk of being raped. Heterosexual men are desperate and will do just about anything for sex. gay men aren’t, because they can get sex from dudes in their league relatively easily.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 09:53 PM
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If you spend any time at all worrying about outliers like Dahlmer you are living life wrong. Lightning is a bigger risk factor for most people than gay serial killers.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 09:40 PM
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The main problem would be getting the escort out of default "making the client feel like a stud" mode and into "teacher" mode. Would be hit or miss for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 08:54 PM
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Hire an escort and have her teach you. Would take several sessions but would be well worth it (learning valuable skills is always a good investment of time and money).
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 08:48 PM
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Gay dudes at the club are not gonna rape anyone, promise.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 08:41 PM
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It's flattering as hell. And LMAO at being intimidated by some gay dudes that just wanna fuck. What do you think they're gonna do, rape you?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 07:16 PM
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I suck at clubs but my one observation is that all the communication that matters seems to be nonverbal.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 05:06 PM
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I would think being able to read lips would be a superpower in a nightclub
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 01:40 PM
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23 year old women don’t need to go for median. That’s the most desirable age, if she’s not fat she can shoot for top 5% (it seems to me).
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 09:35 AM
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The store owner sets the price and you agree to it. It’s all consensual.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 01:05 AM
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Umm in the monetary economy both sides have to agree to a transaction. That’s the only reason why prices work as a signal. It’s the bedrock of capitalism.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 12:18 AM
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Dudes rock
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 01:38 AM
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Well I mean we should be able to find out, right? These are big first-world countries connected to the internet. I've spent time in Australia and male-female relations seemed the same as in US, UK, or Canada to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 11:49 PM
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I would really love to know what the Incel population of Australia or Germany is like. I don't think prostitution really solves the problem, as much as I would like it to.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 10:39 PM
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I am just a dumb guy and I have no place telling women how to play their game (fish / fisherman analogy holds). So I'm sure I'm wrong. But why can't a decent looking 23-year-old woman LOCK DOWN a 29-year-old guy? Like a pretty rich and successful one? It just seems (naively) like it wouldn't be that hard to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 10:00 PM
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Like real estate values. That’s what makes a market!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 05:06 PM
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I have absolutely heard progressive feminist types (men and women) refer to man flu. I think it tracks as feminist because “man bad” (like mansplaining and man spreading) so people don’t question the underlying toxic assumptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 12:28 AM
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Freeze ya sperm! Problem solved. Costs like $300.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 12:26 AM
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I refuse to believe that brothel food is that good lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 11:44 PM
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You're one to talk. The women complaining about the men complaining about the women complaining about age gaps are the real problem!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 04:26 PM
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This is the way. Tenant roommates is how you get into the game. It's nice to live with people!
/r/seduction03/08/21 12:11 PM
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Can’t go wrong with the tiny Ukranian girl. Do NOT have your husband bareback a sex worker.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 11:01 AM
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If he coulda, he woulda.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 10:59 AM
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I mean a year would do it. DAMN.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 02:47 AM
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tricksy hobbitses
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 02:46 AM
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Men are going to be going through the same phase of life as you. They aren't going to want babies in their 20s either.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 02:45 AM
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It doesn’t have to feel like work to take energy. Most fun things take energy. And for the guy there’s a big money and time commitment in the mating dance.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/21 10:55 PM
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It takes a lot more energy for men then for women though. Women just have to keep Thursday-Saturday night free and pick the best option. I don’t see how they gets in the way of a career.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/21 06:27 PM
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I never understand why people can’t be in a relationship while focusing on their career. Being in a relationship doesn’t take that much time, dating does! So marrying someone you met in college frees up a ton of time to focus on your career.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/21 06:24 PM
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What’s the problem as long as you don’t marry them?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/21 11:27 AM
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Man that would track with this timeline.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/21 03:49 AM
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Is he gay?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 11:58 PM
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I also want to know lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 10:42 PM
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Our entire society is training wheels for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 08:16 PM
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was it this one? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlPhNKpouDQ
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 08:11 PM
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Who cares about wolves. Bonobos and Chimp females only reproduce with socially dominant males. That’s a much closer analog to humans (literally our closest cousins).
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 06:59 PM
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Life is complicated but there are good and bad moves. For both sexes. I don’t think we are disagreeing actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 06:16 PM
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If you use a condom you'll just be taking a bit more risk than a tinder hookup. It's important to get red-pilled about STIs. Herpes and genital warts won't kill you, it's no big deal and most people have it and just lie about it. You need to avoid getting HIV, so don't rawdog randoms (especially anal) and you should be fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 05:48 PM
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Dating is absolutely a math problem for men. They need to make high percentage moves because each move is expensive, and there are moves that sound good but don't pay off. If they interpret "get fit" to mean "train for a marathon" instead of "lift weights and get a V-taper" they will have wasted their shot. Same if they decide "cloths are a unique form of self expression" instead of "cloths are a hard-to-fake way of showing you are a part of your chosen in-group". A few bad strategic decisions w…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 05:42 PM
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Yeah I mean obviously. But it's hard to vet for "willingness to seek treatment for low sex drive" while dating. Honestly pre-menopause I had 20 great years with my wife. There was nothing to indicate that she would just shut down at 45, and I doubt she expected it either.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 05:31 PM
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The statistics I shared upthread are real. I really wish they weren’t but it’s important to face reality in life. You can’t even blame women for this. If fucking caused my dick to hurt I wouldn’t want to fuck either.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 04:00 PM
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I don’t know man. No fucking for the rest of your life is a tough sell. If she is amazing at blow jobs and anal I guess it could work? But the lowered sex drive during Menopause makes that unlikely.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 03:54 PM
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Yeah. You need to time it so the guy gets ED at the same time to kee the couple on the same page. That means a 5-10 year age gap.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 03:49 PM
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You need to give that advice to the women not the men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 03:48 PM
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It’s really not. Whatever is in demand is in high value. People have all kinds of idiosyncratic desires for a house. Despite that, bigger has more value. Posher zip code has more value. It’s just maths.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 02:12 PM
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Glass skyscrapers last forever man (assuming a decent foundation). Not disagreeing with your point but find a better analogy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 02:10 PM
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17% to 45% of menopausal women report that sex is painful (because of vaginal atrophy / dryness). https://www.menopause.org/for-women/sexual-health-menopause-online/sexual-problems-at-midlife/pain-with-penetration 62% in this study https://www.healthywomen.org/content/article/menopause-and-painful-sex-what-you-need-know 52% of menopausal women reported having "low sexual desire" https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18625925 Women hit menopause in their 40s and 50s. https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 01:08 PM
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That’s any lawyer. Same thing for doctors. My weed doctor got to his shit tier life because of ONE prescribing mistake that killed someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 11:23 AM
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Oh it’s not about that. It destroys their sexual interest and ability.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 02:02 AM
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Great write up. So the sensitive new age guys who are in touch with their feelings and know their feminist authors are the ones who are having all the success with the ladies now? This gives me a whole new perspective on Chad!
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/21 11:02 PM
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Until Menopause destroys them.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/21 10:25 PM
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This guy understands how governments work!
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/21 06:39 PM
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I mean we all change the culture somewhat by our actions, but yes. Unless you own a major media outlet it's pretty hard to drive cultural change as an army of one.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/21 08:14 PM
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That was the example that launched this conversation (upthread)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/21 07:51 PM
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I don't advocate for any cultural change myself: I'm no tradcon. My point is when people throw up their hands and say "well we can't do anything without government sponsored sex slaves" it's bullshit. Minor changes to the cultural values and scripts we use would have a major impact on the behavior of everyone operating in the cultural system.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/21 07:17 PM
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Scenario we are discussing is mostly 20-something girls on tinder, not college kids. There's absolutely a norm of having sex early with guys that are out of your league in the hopes of attaining a committed relationship, that's the root of the issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/21 07:07 PM
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I here tell that in the past, from time to time, Sluts were Shamed. The culture ebbs and flows, and values are always changing. It certainly doesn't require sex slaves, theocracy, or any kind of government action at all. All this stuff happens at a cultural level. Once the normie culture is "hookup culture is bad, and girls who do it are skanks" women will police each other and shame each other into compliance like they do with every other moral fashion that happens to hit critical mass.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/21 06:54 PM
2

Thank you for your service.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/21 05:39 PM
4

Yeah you aren't their friend if you don't care about such a fundamental aspect of their happyness.
/r/seduction30/07/21 05:36 PM
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I think you are being pessimistic in underestimating how carefully women monitor each other. "Why didn't you post anything on Instagram tuesday night, Becky? And how come you didn't respond to my snap?". We're living in a panopticon that makes it very hard to hide ANYTHING from prying eyes that are sufficiently motivated. And nothing motivates women more than sniffing out out-of-norm behavior in their peer group.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/21 05:23 PM
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Women police each other’s behavior super aggressively. If casual sex became stigmatized each woman finds herself surrounded by her own personal Stasi, relentlessly looking for sex code violations. But it has to become the norm first.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/21 05:06 PM
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Hey man I’m with you. American exceptionalism is why we can’t have nice things.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/21 04:18 PM
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Make universal health care and free education. Like literally every other first-world country besides the United States.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/21 03:54 PM
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Honestly not having hook-up culture isn't that big of a sacrifice. And it would free up a lot of women for the medium level men, and create a lot fewer alpha widows. Making men commit to publically dating you before boning doesn't seem like such an impossible cultural change, and would probably benefit women as well as men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/21 03:52 PM
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This is the main vetting for female friends. Are they in favor or against you getting laid? If they are in favor will they take small actions to help you in your quest? If no to either question drop them.
/r/seduction30/07/21 02:26 PM
1

Zuckerberg is a sociopath and a genius businessman. Ask him how his hospital donation or his support of the Newark school system has worked out for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/21 12:17 PM
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Zuckerberg is a great example of how this is harder than it looks. He’s got no end of shit for having that hospital named after him. I’m sure he wishes he never did it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 07:31 PM
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Having the biggest boat and house on some shitty lake in the Ozarks would probably work. But like, all this really means committing to a bit. What if you don’t like spending all your time in Missouri or wherever?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 07:30 PM
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The key is to use money to shoot low. Don't try to be a bigshot in NYC or Silicon Valley. Buy a bunch of businesses and homes in a small community. But that has it's own challenges as well, not everyone is cut out to run a lumber mill or a general store. And it's a hell of a lot of work for some pussy that you could rent for $300.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 05:58 PM
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If you're good enough at that kind of thing you should be a real con artist instead of just trying to scam your way into pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 05:56 PM
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Spend 5K to go to a Gala and you'll be swimming with a bunch of sharks who go to every gala. Bring a girl there with you and she'll notice how the other people at the Gala treat you. Spend 20MM to name a Childrens hospital after you and you will absolutely get status. You'll be now at a bigger level of swinging dicks who are incredibly ruthless. Watch Billions to see what that world is like, it's very rough and tumble.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 05:35 PM
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Step 3 is remarkably hard. Anyone good at business is good at smelling out bullshit. Vague talk of your "business interests" won't pass the smell test. It's better to figure out some way to fool working class women into thinking you are a bigtime businessman, since they won't have the context to see through your bullshit. But where can you meet them, and how will you handle the working class guys trying to AMOG you? See, it's a hard problem!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 05:28 PM
2

Don't call one of them by the others name. They don't like that I've discovered.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 02:41 PM
1

WINNING AT LIFE
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 02:15 PM
1

Give me some examples of reliable ways to turn money into status. Literally every rich guy I know struggles with this.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 02:11 PM
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It's really not. Converting money into status is HARD work and very tricky.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 12:19 PM
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Watch what people do, not what they say.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 04:37 PM
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Turns out Buddha was right: the source of suffering is the desire for more. So true and so hard to accept.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 03:41 PM
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Bonobo females only reproduce with high dominance males. Betas have to make do with blowjobs and bro-jobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 03:34 PM
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If you don't get dates you don't even get to the relationship stage. So telling a dateless guy to not follow RedPill advice because it will mess up his relationships is putting the cart before the horse.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 03:26 PM
5

What in human history would make you think normal people tolerate differences of opinion? Europe spent 500 years killing each other over which brand of Christianity to follow.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 03:06 PM
1

I had a lot of empathy the first several years (everyone knows the first few years of kids are tough). She completely refused to seek any treatment or communicate in a non angry way about it, or go to marriage counseling, or read books. I think her parents didn’t really have a sex life after having kids and so at a deep level she thinks of that as the normative life script.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 02:14 PM
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Yeah that was my intent.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 11:46 AM
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Value has nothing to do with morality. You are getting trapped in the just world fallacy, the same way Nice Guys do. What is in demand is in demand.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 11:40 AM
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My marriage went strong for 20 years. Then we had kids and my wife hit menopause and the sex just dried up. If you never have kids and LTR women younger than yourself it can work.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 11:37 AM
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Solid point. OLD is a toxic masculinity factory, and it grew in response to hysteria about sexual harassment from feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 07:51 PM
10

Esther Perel is amazing. Very bleak vision of whether marriage can work, but I think it's fairly accurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 08:59 AM
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Well why did you (hypothetically) marry him then?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 08:54 AM
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Legalizing sex work changes nothing. Look at Germany, Australia, etc. The dynamics between women and men are unchanged.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 08:30 PM
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So if that's not a wide enough net to you I love how far we are pushing the fishing metaphor now.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 07:59 PM
4

When the salsa classes are mostly men there is nowhere else to turn. That's like the last good card in the game.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 03:35 PM
1

Men who do absolutely nothing in the house are trash. Totally agree with you on that one.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 03:14 PM
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I've got a great idea about how to teach men that sex isn't important. How about anytime there's an argument and women disagree with what men are saying they just accuse him of being a virgin?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 02:32 PM
1

Which one?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 02:29 PM
1

A LOT of women can't handle the work being done on an agreed-up chore schedule, possibly because they have higher disgust levels then men and are viscerally triggered by house mess in a way that men are not. When they see a mess they NEED it to be cleaned NOW. A LOT of women consider themselves the experts in how the house should be run and insist that the man do it their way. Which doesn't work: if you want someone to have ownership of a task you need to let them do it the way they want and jud…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 02:19 PM
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Shit tests are automatic, women almost never know they are doing it. A shit test is a challenge to a man where responding to it logically in either direction (yes or no) is a failure. Classic dating examples are talking about sex (you can't act all horny, you can't act embarrassed by the question), asking if these pants make your ass look fat (neither no nor yes is acceptable), asking if you are a player (denying is a failure, boastfully bragging of it is a failure as well). Basically women pres…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 01:44 PM
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In my experience the issue is women want the man to do 50% of the work but want to retain 100% of the control. It should be done to their standard, the WAY they would do it, WHEN they would do it. If a man complies with this he will be taking on a submissive role and she will lose all attraction. So this isn’t about house logistics at all: this is a shit test.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 11:26 AM
1

Can you share some links or resources?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 08:07 PM
1

Hypnotherapist? Does that work?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 07:49 PM
1

I had to work super hard to get a decent male therapist. Was worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 07:46 PM
1

I am unclear why anyone gives a crap about abortion rights. If it becomes illegal it will only be in shithole states like Alabama or Mississippi or whatever. People can always take a bus to Boston. Like I’m in favor of abortion in most cases (like more fetuses should be aborted, maybe most of them) but I don’t see why individual states banning it is a bigger policy priority than global warming, education, health care, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 05:36 PM
2

Are you good at picking up women?
/r/seduction24/07/21 05:08 PM
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What I bristle with is that this sub straight up just has a terrible understanding of social class and often does conflate it with money/wealth Yeah this is an Americanism, it's not unique to PPD. Class and wealth aren't unrelated but they are very different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 10:23 PM
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OK but fringe communities like that are the only place where a bog-standard, material based liberalism exist anymore. Bernie lost. And men are much more likely to be adherents to fringe political beliefs then women are.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 08:38 PM
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Aren't women much more likely to be on the identity politics side of liberalism than the materialistic side? If you go to places that are about left-wing materialist (class-first, to the exclusion of race and gender politics like stupidpol) its a sausagefest.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 08:29 PM
3

I know 2 guys who got divorced when the contractor doing their home renovation seduced their wife. Manly physical work and bearing + authority over others is like catnip to many women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 05:39 PM
1

Are you saying being a research psychologist isn’t depressing right now? Your heros have been revealed to be frauds, their lives meaningless. How do you continue to take any of it seriously? It must be crushingly depressing and disorienting. I mean imagine if half of Physics experiments didn't replicate, they would just shut the whole operation down.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 05:37 PM
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I really hope so. I hope to see the global population peak in my lifetime, that would be an epic moment to have witnessed. Don't think I'm gonna make it though, population has slowed but is still rising until 2100. https://www.worldometers.info/
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 01:50 PM
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This sub basically ignores the fact that social classes exist I disagree. This sub is one of the few places on the American internet that admins that class exists, and that it's a different thing from wealth/income. People openly talk about being UMC in a way that probably sounds obnoxious but at least is honest. One of the things that drives conflict on this sub are the interactions between UMC middle aged women and more working class younger men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 07:50 AM
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You get a lot more transactional sex for the $ even without condom thai or mexico but you have to take prevention meds. To quote the OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 01:15 AM
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Whores fuck without rubbers all the time now that PREP is a thing. So yeah very low HIV risk but very high risk of everything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 12:24 AM
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Research Psychology was outed as bullshit a decade ago when this replication crisis was first noticed. Hilarious from the outside but imagine how existentially depressing it must be to realize that your WHOLE FIELD is bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 11:21 PM
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Yeah that's what PREP is. But it doesn't protect you from anything else. You'll become a walking talking petri dish of STIs.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 08:40 PM
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PSA: Please don't bang prostitutes without a condom. Even if you take PREP you will get literally every other STI besides HIV almost immediately.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 08:20 PM
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Absolutely. In freshman year I was friends with a southern girl who was friendly with EVERYONE. Dude after dude thought she was hitting on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 07:16 PM
1

TAKE TWO SHOWERS (only because of hypergamy)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 11:24 PM
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JUST TAKE A SHOWER
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 10:40 PM
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JUST BE YOURSELF
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 08:13 PM
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Culture clash. It's hard to relate to their lives. It's hard to say what you think without coming off as snotty or condescending, it's hard for them to relate to your problems. There just isn't a big overlap of shared context to weave connections out of.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 08:06 PM
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I never understand why the men don't bang escorts in that situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 03:21 PM
1

Buy a Masserati and a Patek Phillipe.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 10:37 AM
1

This is true. The class pill is another separate redpill that Americans are deathly afraid of. I wouldn't even know what to talk to a working class girl about, and she would probably think i was lame AF.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 10:35 AM
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The thing you have to realize is since the incel sub was banned those people infest every sub about masculinity. I haven't even looked at the redpill sub for years, it's toxic AF and useless now. But the core ideas expressed by RP are more useful than the mainstream ideas about dating. Five years ago you couldn't even get women to admit that they liked muscles on a guy ffs. So dudes would become marathon runners and ask why they still weren't getting laid. It's still hard outside of RP discussio…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 10:31 AM
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I think maybe martial arts (BJJ seems to be what a lot of people like) might be a fun hobby and be pretty cheap? Dance is cool if there are cheap group lessons. What about intramural sports, just a softball or kickball league or something like that? Money being a constraint definitely limits you and you should work on that (more hours or ideally more dollars per hour, but you're probably already trying the best you can there).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 10:23 AM
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Regular dating advice doesn't address HOW to flirt. Push/pull, agree and amplify, pressure flip, this is just flirting described in really precise terms by people that are a little bit autistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 02:58 AM
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Oh yeah I agree that Red Pill advice is valuable (if you don't dwell on the negativity).
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 11:11 PM
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Come on, you went to high school. Football team, coolest guy in class, the person on the camping trip who brought the weed and mushrooms, the guy who just raised a funding round for his startup, the person who organized the party, the leader of the revolutionary cell, the manager of the restaurant. It's completely situational but pretty obvious who's at the center and who's just a bit player, who has power and status and who doesn't. And it's usually men because men do all this shit to get women…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 10:54 PM
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No they liked the coolest guy in a lame class. Or they liked the guy who was richer then them who had access to resources and a cool friend group. That treat them somewhat dismissively yes, and engage in behaviors that seem risky (dealing a tiny bit of weed was the easiest way for a white boy to give off this vibe back when I was in college). Nothing illogical about it. In all great ape species the socially dominant males are the ones who reproduce, we are no different.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 10:48 PM
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I mean it matched the behavior of Ivy League and State School women, and academic/art elite types. Not some stereotype of cluster b party girls or whatever you are thinking of. Women respond to high status by being available for relationships. And if you have high status in a low inhibition environment they respond by giving you casual sex. It's not complicated and it doesn't reflect badly on women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 10:31 PM
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