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Both of those criticisms fail to criticize or even mention how Cosmo mirrors the nigh-sociopathy we see from PUAs--a trait that those same critics would decry in a heartbeat. The guy you replied to was pointing out the hypocrisy, which was not disproved by your links.
/r/MensRights12/08/13 05:59 AM
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But the WHO report details that even amongst young women between the ages of 15 and 19 years, 29.4 per cent experience violence. Anyone else notice how that doesn't actually mean anything? How this article is filled with similar barely-relevant factoids that fail to prove whatever point the author weakly stabs at?
/r/MensRights25/06/13 02:58 PM
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Fantastic video, favourited for sure. Hitchens' argument for free speech (in the related videos) is another good one, and quite handy for arguing against people who are having trouble wrapping their heads around the necessity of free speech and its consequences. The idea of a government council forcing media to fit its definition of "fairness" is particularly foreboding in a country where the Prime Minister does not shy away from using feminist silencing/derailing tactics to deflect even the mos…
/r/MensRights14/06/13 03:30 PM
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At first I didn't know what it was about this series of comics that made me so brain-blisteringly mad that I signed in to an account I hadn't used in five months. It wasn't the mischaracterization of men--that stuff makes me laugh at its absolute worst. No, what got to me was that I realized this is what feminists think is actually fucking happening when they get into a disagreement with men. For example, take the panel where the herd of anonymous internet women are trying desperately get past t…
/r/MensRights30/05/13 12:53 PM
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This was from a series of troll threads on 4chan. No actual worries here, but entertaining enough.
/r/MensRights30/12/12 03:12 PM
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Why must anti-liberal and anti-feminist comments inherently tarnish discourse? How does the open and free criticism of political beliefs do anything but add value to a conversation, even if some of the criticism is abrasive or sarcastic? Why does criticism of feminism require its critic to be against equal rights for women, or criticism of liberalism require its critic to be against raising awareness of social issues? Is this a good place for me? I'd say yes because you say you support men's rig…
/r/MensRights30/10/12 03:30 AM
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Thank you BasedMerkel
/r/MensRights23/10/12 02:25 PM
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So apparently being a transsexual is worse than being born in Africa? Of all the inaccurate comparisons this chart makes, that's the strangest to me.
/r/MensRights20/10/12 11:57 PM
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Try to get a male-only version from the administration, I'd imagine that getting some signatures would help your case. Trying to make it a unisex workshop might be seen as an offensive notion to the female-only one.
/r/MensRights14/10/12 04:03 AM
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I wouldn't call it a great point...describing the kind of work a lot of men do (specifically, the kind of occupation that is male dominated with no opinion journalism trying to convince you that's a bad thing) as not "flexible" doesn't really capture the entire truth. Inflexible work can just mean working a lot of hours and not getting many days off. Forbes' ten wost jobs for 2012 were all male-dominated.
/r/MensRights13/10/12 07:45 PM
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Here's a list of a few studies and their results. I actually ran into a false rape allegation in real life, but it happened to a classmate of mine in high school. He disappeared one day without warning, and a girl (with whom he had been flirting with back and forth) claimed that he tried to rape her. The girl kept changing her story from telling to telling, but no one called her out on it. I tried to contact the guy on facebook to no avail, but one day ran into him on the subway. He showed me hi…
/r/MensRights12/10/12 05:58 PM
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In this hypothetical scenario in which feminism is actually about gender equality, there's still a lot about feminism that I take issue with--even if they ditch the Patriarchy and all-encompassing male privilege. I wouldn't have to be a feminist to take a pro-equality stance. I'd more likely just take a critical stance of feminism as opposed to anti-feminism, meaning it's still a reasonable, level-headed stance in fighting for full gender equality. I just wouldn't be willing to consider myself a…
/r/MensRights11/10/12 02:20 AM
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Relevant video. All internet groups that discuss politics (especially really popular ones) need to see this.
/r/MensRights10/10/12 09:37 PM
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It's because they're confident! The only difference between confidence and arrogance is how attracted the observer is to the observed.
/r/MensRights10/10/12 03:01 PM
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As long as feminism still believes in the Patriarchy and my invisible, all-encompassing privilege, I cannot in good conscience call myself a feminist. When feminists stop believing in those things and using them as a way to justify taking from men and giving to women, stop complaining about stupid bullshit, stop playing the victim and claiming misogyny whenever they are faced with a minor inconvenience or criticism, stop supporting misandrist political lobbies, stop dismissing the issues and hum…
/r/MensRights10/10/12 02:58 PM
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Usually, the question "Does this commercial bother you all as much as me?" is about a completely harmless instance of "misandry", the kind of shit we rag on feminists for getting pissy about. But yeah, this bothers me. State Supreme Court Justices shouldn't really have "zero tolerance" for anything other than breaking the state constitution, and excluding male victims of domestic violence (can't find Michigan's DV victims by gender) is dismissing the humanity of men. It is quite clear that this …
/r/MensRights09/10/12 09:19 PM
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BUT GUYS, NOT ALL FEMINISTS ARE LIKE THAT /s
/r/MensRights09/10/12 12:15 PM
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Even if they get everything they want, they'll come up with more shit to complain about.
/r/MensRights07/10/12 04:55 PM
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No response. I'm pretty sure that means you kicked some ass, OP. Good job.
/r/MensRights05/10/12 02:46 PM
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I wonder if the appearance of displacement being a disproportionately female problem is because men are more likely to be killed rather than displaced. Also, the sex trafficking bit is a horrible misrepresentation of the truth to say the least. Focusing on females is all fine and good (I guess), but blaming men--especially when they're likely to be victimized MORE by trafficking and third world war--is fucking repugnant.
/r/MensRights03/10/12 08:54 PM
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So how is instructing men to be less masculine not evidence of the end of men? Men should be able to do whatever they want, but that doesn't mean men should break gender roles even if they like them. I refuse to believe that the problems men face today are a result of our inability to adapt to new situations--this assertion (women are plastic, men are cardboard) is complete bogus and ignores all the very real problems men face that could cause our perceived decline. I also refuse to believe that…
/r/MensRights03/10/12 01:36 PM
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Apparently, these modern empowered wymyn would rather spend $300/hour on therapy, potentially ruin a marriage, and write angry articles on the internet than change a goddamn lightbulb. Were I a feminist, I would hate this article. As I'm not, it's pretty goddamn entertaining.
/r/MensRights03/10/12 01:22 PM
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Yeah, it was. JtO did an amazing response to it, completely dismantling the misrepresentation of statistics in said commercial. Looks like the Canadian Women's Foundation hasn't seen it, though.
/r/MensRights02/10/12 11:54 PM
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it was discussed at length how expectations on boys can be negative for them as well. Can you talk a bit more about this? What exactly were the negative results discussed?
/r/MensRights01/10/12 02:12 PM
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it's frequently debated how the toys we are given as children and the social expectations we get are both positive and negative, for both sexes. Too often, discussions like these are in the context of perpetual female victimization with the small addendum that teaching boys to victimize girls is kinda bad for boys. Feminist discussions on the consequences of sexism/gender roles for men and women ignore very real (not to downplay the consequences of societal gender roles on the individual level, …
/r/MensRights01/10/12 01:55 PM
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it’s impossible for Lifetime to depict a woman who is not a victim Alternatively, it's impossible for the author to see a female character going through any hardship without painting her as a victim. This imputation of female victimhood onto every single Lifetime character is really telling.
/r/MensRights30/09/12 11:38 PM
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IF YOU'RE A MAN THEN YOU CAN'T HAVE AN OPINION ON WOMAN'S ISSUES THAT DOESN'T AGREE WITH MINE, YOU WILL NEVER UNDERSTAND WHAT IT'S LIKE TO BE DISCRIMINATED AGAINST BECAUSE OF YOUR PRIVILEGE followed shortly by OMG IT'S THE PATRIARCHY THAT SAYS YOU'RE INCAPABLE AND IGNORANT, STOP ATTACKING STRAW FEMINISTS YOU MISOGYNIST CREEPER Calling "straw feminist" is the most aggravating feminist tactic. Even if you prove that your position is popularly held and that if most feminists disagree they're being …
/r/MensRights30/09/12 11:33 PM
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the first proposed video is to be released late fall/early winter. 'The kickstarter page (in the pledge brackets section) gave the impression that the videos would start being released in August. August rolled around, and she updated her website with the fall/winter release date estimate.
/r/MensRights30/09/12 05:22 PM
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It's funny because feminism would've never picked up speed had it not been for chivalrous men in power giving them what they asked for just because they were women.
/r/MensRights29/09/12 04:16 PM
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Goddamnit, forgot to put /s. I'll fix that.
/r/MensRights28/09/12 09:36 PM
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Imagine being a little boy growing up in that village. Must be fucking fantastic. /s
/r/MensRights28/09/12 02:58 PM
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David Tanovich, a University of Windsor law professor, said that the committee that decided to exclude men wanted to address “systemic issues” faced by women in the legal system. Yeah, women who commit DV are treated way too roughly by the justice system and men are constantly let off the hook. /s It's still really fucking surprising to me the extent to which so-called "social justice" advocates live in a fantasy world.
/r/MensRights27/09/12 02:12 PM
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As a male I've never even heard of people judging me as a "true gamer" based on certain milestones These guys are lucky, then. Gamers judge other gamers all the time--have these guys ever been to /v/? Half the males on /r/gaming would run home crying after half an hour of trying to defend Skyrim to people who actually know their shit.
/r/MensRights25/09/12 12:11 PM
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And saying Nurdy Dancing claimed that "calling a man a misogynist is the equivalent of calling a Black person a nigger" means you're omitting several paragraphs of pretty important context.
/r/MensRights23/09/12 11:04 PM
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Since when did I say context didn't matter? The article limits itself to the parameters I listed before. It doesn't say men today have it as bad as blacks before civil rights, it just attempts to show similarities. Her concluding sentence goes over her entire point: I can only hope that using this word to silence and shame someone you disagree with someday reaches the same public regard as coming right out and calling your opponent ‘nigger’. "This word" referring of course to "misogynist".
/r/MensRights23/09/12 10:59 PM
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All of your attacks against the article attack a point it is not making. It is not saying the equivalent of "women are the new blacks" or "gays are the new blacks", it's pointing out the similarities between the function of language, the level of control over public discourse, and the use and advocacy of fear in the oppression of blacks before civil rights and men currently.
/r/MensRights23/09/12 10:49 PM
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And I'm asking you to prove that it's dildos without attacking comparisons Nurdy Dancing does not make.
/r/MensRights23/09/12 10:40 PM
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So you're assuming your victory and refusing to argue because of a strawman position you think I hold?
/r/MensRights23/09/12 10:36 PM
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If the comparison is stupid, show us why instead of saying "THIS COMPARISON IS STUPID". Did the video/article claim that roving bands of feminists wearing pink sheets regularly hang men? No. But it pointed out the similarity of how language is used in either situation, how free speech was controlled, the role of fear in the oppression, etc. I encourage you to attack the points it actually makes.
/r/MensRights23/09/12 10:24 PM
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It happens to be okay to compare/contrast whatever you want to because we have freedom of speech. The fact that there are large differences between the civil rights movement and the MRM doesn't mean that you're not allowed to point out the similarities.
/r/MensRights23/09/12 10:12 PM
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25% of humans reported that they "felt infected" or "were nearly infected" Holy shit, that made my day
/r/MensRights23/09/12 05:47 PM
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They don't appear to be encouraging anything negative, just making an observation. From The New York Times article on the book: Rosin is not saying that women are winners in a global gender war or that they are doing super simply because men are doing worse. She’s just saying women are adapting to today’s economy more flexibly and resiliently than men. Yup. When women were failing in pre-industrial/industrial society, it was because gender roles and social conditioning and stuff, but when men ar…
/r/MensRights21/09/12 03:28 PM
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Slut shaming is a problem to some extent, but as with any buzzword feminism picks up it is widely misused. Considering all the things we have no control over like race, gender identity and sexual orientation, one's actions and decisions are some things we are perfectly within our right to judge other people by. When someone even SUGGESTS that they believe sexual promiscuity is a negative trait (in many cases without being gender specific), they are accused of slut shaming. That's why these buzzw…
/r/MensRights20/09/12 12:57 PM
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You know you deserve to date someone who will pamper you, empower you, and help you mentally, emotionally and financially. Wow, I never knew that having sex with a man so he would buy you stuff was empowering. I mean, nothing against the website--consenting adults are allowed to do whatever they please. It's just entertaining how what feminism claims are "socially conditioned gender roles" are slowly proving themselves to be a little more ingrained than that. Human rationalization truly knows no…
/r/MensRights20/09/12 12:45 PM
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Never, Never, Never, Never, NEVER does a man have a right to raise his hand to a womanotherthanselfdefence I lol'd Honestly, politicians who pander to their demographic by feeding them easily-swallowed lies don't really bother me too much any more. It's just entertainment for me at this point.
/r/MensRights18/09/12 12:17 AM
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Some referred to circumcision as "male genital mutilation", cynically seeking to tar it with the same brush as the far more invasive and painful practice of female genital mutilation. Fuck this guy, seriously. The comparison of anti-circ advocates to nazis was particularly distasteful.
/r/MensRights17/09/12 01:30 PM
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Quite right, I got the 75% rate from California.
/r/MensRights17/09/12 12:02 AM
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Think for example about driving your car. It is great and you probably enjoy it too but every time you take your car out you could be run over and killed. Is that something we should worry about every time we go out driving? No, of course not. The last time I checked, there wasn't a 75% chance your car would crash every time you went out to drive with a 90% chance it wasn't your fault. As for a personal anecdote, the happiest and longest-lasting couple I know (my parents) are not married.
/r/MensRights16/09/12 05:22 PM
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This is primarily the AVfM article anti-MRM folks will point to in order to say that AVfM is misogynist because it has such gems as "there is many a woman that righteously deserves a foot being broken off in her ass" and "There are women, and plenty of them, for which a solid ass kicking would be the least that they deserve" that look horrifying out of context. In context, however, it's a brilliant article.
/r/MensRights16/09/12 03:26 AM
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Some of the comments in that thread are promising, at least. There are some normal r/feminism weird things (like "some people were never taught to not rape"...what world do they live in?) and bad stats, but all things considered it's not too bad.
/r/MensRights15/09/12 02:40 PM
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So when women do worse in whatever way than men it's "gender is a social construct, women are oppressed" but when men do worse than women in whatever way it's "I guess men are too stupid to adapt to their environment"? Quite the far cry from the author's claim that Rosin is "forcing [feminists] to address their own blind spots".
/r/MensRights15/09/12 03:00 AM
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I meant more to point out the hypocrisy, not attack people.
/r/MensRights14/09/12 11:44 PM
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Apparently, disagreeing with a woman and trying to prove you're right is against the rules now. These guys really do not know when to stop, do they? What the fuck comes next?
/r/MensRights14/09/12 06:22 PM
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Added the statistics page to my favourites, some really good info there. 85% completed high school/GED, compared to 56% of non-veterans 89% received Honorable Discharge 97% of those homeless Veterans will be male This video and the people who made it are worth a look, too.
/r/MensRights14/09/12 04:54 PM
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I think it's fine, Chris Brown is scum. Illegal? Maybe, but that doesn't mean it isn't right. I doubt anyone would attack a female celebrity in such a way if she had a record of DV (even if it were as serious as Chris Brown's), but hey--that's what we're here for.
/r/MensRights14/09/12 04:49 PM
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I completely agree with you, actually. I thought I was the only one who noticed.
/r/MensRights14/09/12 04:34 AM
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I don't think I remember seeing that one, sounds interesting. Do you have a link to a report?
/r/MensRights14/09/12 04:33 AM
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I've seen comments and a few posts that are just taking the whole thing out of context and trying to turn MR into feminism. How so? I understand if you can't link to comments, I'm just curious what exactly you mean by this.
/r/MensRights14/09/12 04:00 AM
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I can see problems on both sides Now I have to ask...what problems do you see with /r/MR?
/r/MensRights14/09/12 03:53 AM
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it claims that attempts were included for women, but all you need is basic addition to figure out that this is false So the total number of female victims of rape did not include attempted rape? They didn't include attempts in the total number of male victims "forced to penetrate", either. That's because attempted rape isn't rape as far as statistics go. Further, it's good to point out that the NISVS outright did not bother counting male victims, even those who were penetrated. Very true. Accord…
/r/MensRights14/09/12 03:51 AM
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It's not fair, and I'm sorry. Hey, no worries. It's not your fault. Things are also getting better, slowly but surely--father's rights groups can be found all across the world and they're doing a good job so far. You can tell they're effective because the media is trying to demonize them.
/r/MensRights13/09/12 11:41 PM
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I post this a lot. It's from the National Intimate Partner and Sexual Violence Survey. A really good read with a lot of important information.
/r/MensRights13/09/12 11:37 PM
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Feminism != Women The MRM actually advocates equality, whereas feminism has proven itself to be self-righteously anti-male. In order to back up some of your accusations, I'd like you to find me one post on /r/MR that claims all women are sluts/whores/bimbos that wasn't heavily downvoted.
/r/MensRights13/09/12 01:27 PM
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This movement needs to get a backbone and stop trying to tone itself down for feminism. Is it just me, or has there been a lot of that around here lately? All sorts of "NAFALT, FEMINISM USED TO BE GOOD, IT'S ABOUT EQUALITY" being thrown around every time someone calls feminists out on the bullshit they're accountable for (like the MRM doesn't advocate equality, either). Meanwhile, MRAs are called misogynist, wife beating, white supremacist rapists with no evidence every time it's brought up, and…
/r/MensRights12/09/12 12:26 PM
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So, would you say you are against modern day feminism but still for women's rights and equality? Yes, I would. There is an important distinction The biggest one being that the version of feminism I support no longer exists as anything but cover for insanity, lies, and misandry.
/r/MensRights12/09/12 12:12 PM
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The problem is not that feminism focuses on women, but that feminism actively works against men. I've linked to this before, and I'll post it again, but it's on the sidebar and I don't think as many people read the links as there should be. Feminism claims to focus on equality, but how can a movement that has as one of its core tenets the unquestionable guilt of an entire gender in the oppression of another that it uses to justify all sorts of anti-male action?
/r/MensRights12/09/12 12:31 AM
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I'm not trying to represent the idea that we should constantly be badmouthing everyone who doesn't agree with us or making "comments filled with curse words, condescending sentences or just complete disrespect for the other person" every time someone says they're a feminist. But that doesn't mean we shouldn't call out bullshit when we see it, and I don't see how being abrasive in the face of such bullshit counts as being a dick.
/r/MensRights11/09/12 08:30 PM
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If I can defend the points I make and the attitude I have logically, how does that give the MRM a bad name?
/r/MensRights11/09/12 07:59 PM
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I've always thought that respect is something one earns. Of course there should be a baseline of respect in all of one's interactions--it would be antisocial and unproductive to believe otherwise, but too often the feminists I end up talking to supply me no shortage of reasons for me to lose my respect for them. That, and the feminist movement as a whole--the points it argues, the tactics it employs and its core belief of perpetual female victimhood and perpetual male oppression--give me no reas…
/r/MensRights11/09/12 06:30 PM
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I think it plays into this popular idea that a woman lowers herself by getting into a relationship with a man. There's a common attitude of women going for their ex's stuff in a divorce that they "deserve" it, although for exactly what I don't know.
/r/MensRights10/09/12 08:55 PM
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I don't see anything in the comment thread that said you were wrong for questioning their point of view, only assertions and arguments to try to prove your point of view wrong.
/r/MensRights10/09/12 12:37 AM
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Are you upset because people disagree with you? It's not like there was anything particularly inflammatory said, either. I get that the downvotes can be discouraging, but it hardly justifies losing respect for the sub. I agree with you about the nonviolence thing, though.
/r/MensRights10/09/12 12:02 AM
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I dunno, I generally try not to post outside of /r/MR because lots of my views disagree with the hivemind. All the rational people in that thread trying to point out the damage these kinds of laws can do are getting simple "HARASSMENT IS NOT OKAY, GUYS" type responses.
/r/MensRights09/09/12 04:11 PM
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If you demand “rights” and “equality,” you’re imitating the feminists, who wanted a “Robin Hood” style program of taking from the stronger sex (men) and giving to the weaker sex (women). Alternatively, we want to change our legal system so it doesn't actively punish men. We want to get rid of the Robin Hood mentality of our government, not add another one.
/r/MensRights08/09/12 11:08 PM
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No, it's not.
/r/MensRights08/09/12 08:03 PM
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I believe there is an appropriate metaphor in this event, regarding a pot that needs to check its privilege prior to making color-inflammatory comments to the neighboring kettle. I love you.
/r/MensRights08/09/12 05:34 PM
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Lawyer up, make sure she can't get at your money, document everything. If you divorce, you'll be glad you were prepared. If you don't divorce, you'll find the sense of control you have over your own life very freeing.
/r/MensRights08/09/12 03:26 PM
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she suggested that some atheists might find empowerment under a more specific label that would emphasize their interest in social justice issues. Funny, I recall something else happening. I remember her saying that the all the atheists who DIDN'T label themselves the way she said were dying out, that A+'s crowd of the truly enlightened would move on without them to much better places while the rest of us atheists who simply didn't believe in a God or the rather Godlike concepts of privilege and …
/r/MensRights08/09/12 03:12 PM
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Not really absurd in my experience, and I've spoken with many feminists--academics, political activists, parents, teachers, white knights, moderates...I wouldn't call it hateful either, considering I'm judging them by their actions. Is it a generalization? Yeah, but in my experience it's generally true, otherwise I wouldn't make the statement. If your experience differs from mine, you're welcome to say so--but calling me immature or ignorant because we have different perspectives really doesn't …
/r/MensRights08/09/12 03:56 AM
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I find it funny how she's talking about how badly men have it and how disenfranchised we are as a gender, but still thinks that women don't have enough. I guess our problems don't matter much.
/r/MensRights07/09/12 01:27 PM
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Feminists are well-versed in the arts of name-calling and shaming. They know that just like an accusation of rape is enough to destroy a man even if there's no evidence supporting it, an accusation of misogyny, "rape apology", pedophilia, etc. are enough to decrease popular support for a group even if the only evidence you have to support it is one heavily downvoted comment with a back to the kitchen joke.
/r/MensRights07/09/12 01:24 PM
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"Obviously [sex equality] is a discussion we need to have out in the open, not with finger-pointing and trying to tear each other down." Someone should tell the author.
/r/MensRights06/09/12 09:08 PM
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This video is unavailable from your location Mind telling me what exactly went down? I missed it last night.
/r/MensRights06/09/12 08:56 PM
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Damnit. I'm usually good at detecting...sardon.
/r/MensRights06/09/12 04:19 AM
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I'm not entirely sure I get the point you're making. I'm sure there are plenty of female supremacists who want to make female-only spaces for misandrist reasons. Does that mean no female spaces should be allowed, or that it would be fair to generalize all female-only spaces as anti-male?
/r/MensRights06/09/12 03:50 AM
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I lol'd at how fucking typical this is. When the double standard of feminist acceptance of female-only spaces and demonization of male-only spaces gets pointed out, the only response the pathetic author can come up with is "THEY'RE JUST DIFFERENT BECAUSE MISOGYNY"
/r/MensRights05/09/12 11:22 PM
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Can't answer for OP, but even large feminist organizations have done anti-male activism/lobbying.
/r/MensRights05/09/12 09:29 PM
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The link I showed you earlier has just as many men "forced to penetrate" (meaning raped by a woman) as there were women penetrated (raped by a man).
/r/MensRights02/09/12 01:32 AM
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rape of women is much more common This is wrong, at least in the US. The reason the rape of men by women seems less prevalent is because the legal definition of rape requires penetration on the part of the rapist.
/r/MensRights01/09/12 06:35 PM
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I'm not an expert on the subject, but for the sake of argument let's assume it is...would that make dating male Chinese immigrants inherently harmful to women? Would it make dating a male Chinese immigrant "ostracizing [one]self into an Asian ghetto and antiquated ideas of Asian unity"? Would the patriarchy of another society justify racism?
/r/MensRights01/09/12 06:06 PM
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The patriarchy is an undefinable, amorphous concept that feminists will use to justify absolutely anything.
/r/MensRights01/09/12 04:08 PM
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It's (not) really surprising how many of these are just reiterations of "Not everything around me is completely perfect all the time, MISOGYNYYYYY". I know that sounds like a sarcastic generalization, but feminism (even the over-idealized "everything in the future will be perfect and equal as soon as we get rid of that darn patriarchy" feminism) is not going to fix that people are going to find some things attractive and other things unattractive. It's also not going to stop people who see marri…
/r/MensRights31/08/12 04:04 PM
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Ah yes...the perils of real-world argument. On the internet, we're not censored and the effect of "shaming" tactics is negligible to say the least (shaming in quotes because who seriously feels ashamed by feminist name-calling anymore?). But in real life, the loudest and angriest voice is the one that people listen to.
/r/MensRights31/08/12 11:20 AM
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The results of her experiment are intriguing no matter how flawed a human being she was.
/r/MensRights30/08/12 07:37 PM
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Whenever Rape is mentioned, someone inevitably brings up prison statistics. How is feminism responsible for this when it's men who do the raping in the prisons? Using the same statistics it is very easy to say "Men rape more than women". There are a couple reasons prison rape is brought up in discussions of rape. The first of which being it's rape, and therefore happens to be relevant to discussions of rape. The second is that while feminists complain about rape jokes "normalizing and justifying…
/r/MensRights30/08/12 07:29 PM
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The federal judge Tom Altobelli was quoted as saying She is not being malicious or malevolent, she is quite simply shackled by a distorted frame of reality She COULDN'T be lying to make him look bad, right? It's also worth pointing out that quote was from a decision where he awarded the woman with a "distorted frame of reality" sole custody of two children, meaning that the mother being apparently mentally debilitated still isn't enough to make the state admit the father may be a positive influe…
/r/MensRights30/08/12 04:05 PM
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ready to take action across the country to fight for greater equality between the sexes. Greater equality? So they're finally going to be fighting the issues that men face?
/r/MensRights29/08/12 05:08 PM
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This surge of hate is nothing more than the last gasp of a faction that has reached its end. Funny, that's exactly what I was thinking.
/r/MensRights28/08/12 10:49 PM
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I'm getting really fucking tired of women in video games made out to be victims because they get trash talked. Fuck, even if they get full-on verbally assaulted, they're not being treated any differently from men. This guy is legitimately claiming that someone talking shit to a woman on the internet is "abuse" and "harmful", and that wanting male-only spaces means you hate women. Standing up to these little jerks will require the same courage from us that women like Anita Sarkeesian have already…
/r/MensRights28/08/12 09:27 PM
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There's clearly a lot of money to be made in selling out your gender by picking and choosing studies that support a point you can pander to a large consumer demographic. It's shit like this that makes going my own way seem more attractive all the time. If people think I'm so useless, why should I stick around and help them?
/r/MensRights28/08/12 03:36 PM
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A man isn’t going to have everything about him filtered through the prism of his gender first. Stopped reading there. Holy fucking shit.
/r/MensRights28/08/12 12:54 AM
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The word misogyny is used whenever women are held to the same standards other human beings are held to. When they get shit-talked, made fun of, or even--hold on to your seats--judged for their actions and choices, there are always hordes of women screaming that they're being treated unfairly. This does a disservice to people accused of misogyny without being misogynist, and it does a disservice to people trying to have a conversation about real misogyny. Basically, this behaviour fucks everyone.…
/r/MensRights27/08/12 08:36 PM
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One possibility is that women feel more attractive and sexy when ovulating, and unconsciously give off signals that rapists might pick up-although it's unclear whether men do in fact notice these signals (see p 12). Another, more likely explanation is that rapists target attractive and healthy-looking women-both characteristics that can indicate fertility. So, maybe? I seriously doubt any study attempting to find out the reason would get any sort of popular support.
/r/MensRights27/08/12 04:55 PM
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Why is society so eager to believe this obvious bullshit? She told a story, went back on it, and now is going back to her original story but this time trying to get people upset at the Thai police. “An investigation into how a young Australian woman went from being the victim of a sexual assault on an overseas holiday to being treated like a criminal by the authorities,” says the show’s host Matt White. Bamford claimed she was attacked by three men while taking a tuk-tuk back to her hotel at abo…
/r/MensRights27/08/12 04:12 PM
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Todd Akin did indeed say some stupid shit. His assertion that a woman is less likely to get pregnant from rape is not just wrong, it's actually the opposite case. However, that is not the main thing I see people getting upset about. I cannot tell you how many times I've heard the term "legitimate rape" attacked for implying there is "illegitimate rape", as though even thinking such a thing is violence against women. I have a problem with Todd Akin's comments--it is an example of unscientific rhe…
/r/MensRights27/08/12 04:05 PM
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And we haven't even mentioned the frequency of false rape allegations laid against men. If this smug cunt wants to talk about rape culture, we can talk about rape culture.
/r/MensRights26/08/12 09:39 PM
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It is, of course, fully within their right to protest in such a way--but if the problem is "recent electoral reforms which they say will make it easier for Gnassingbe to win reelection", then how is withholding sex from all men going to help their cause? I'm all about protest, but wouldn't you want your protest to target the actual problem as opposed to just using sex to manipulate men who might not even vote for Gnassingbe? This is saying nothing of the dubious practice of using sex to manipula…
/r/MensRights26/08/12 07:19 PM
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I hate watching videos like these...I have to pause every 30 seconds to process the rage. What fucking fantasy world does this guy live in? As for a logical objection to this video, he claimed the prevalence of systemic hatred of women in our culture is evidenced in "all sorts of things" then did nothing more than throw out some feminist buzzwords. I'd be surprised if he even has the capacity for critical thought, let ALONE the capacity to examine his own beliefs critically.
/r/MensRights26/08/12 07:09 PM
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It's also important to note that according to English law, only men can be rapists. 1-(1) A person (A) commits an offence if— (a) he intentionally penetrates the vagina, anus or mouth of another person (B) with his penis, (b) B does not consent to the penetration, and (c) A does not reasonably believe that B consents. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_in_English_law
/r/MensRights26/08/12 05:19 PM
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I found crime statistics divided into England/Wales, Northern Ireland, and Scotland here.
/r/MensRights26/08/12 05:14 PM
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Do you have a source for this information? I'm really interested in the role of women in history myself.
/r/MensRights26/08/12 05:12 PM
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I'd advise him to stop giving a flying fuck what his coworkers think. There are always going to be assholes in the world. I'd also advise him to learn how to fight anyway, because it's a handy skill. Also He is probably just as likely to be mugged or assaulted as I am it's not like being a man means he's automatically safe from muggers, rapists, etc. You don't have to use such gentle language when it's proven that men are more likely than women to be the victims of violent crime, and surprisingl…
/r/MensRights26/08/12 05:00 PM
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Your original question was "how is it unfair for a man to pay child support if he didn't wear a condom?" Your current position is "it's unfair, but that's just the way it is". This leads me to question the sincerity of your honest, open-minded curiosity--and no, I'm not just calling troll because I disagree with you.
/r/MensRights26/08/12 04:45 PM
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Instead of trying to reduce my argument to small parts you find entertaining, how about actually trying to beat the logic? My argument is that condoms are more ineffective than birth control, reduce sexual sensation, and have the added potential for sabotage--all this combined with the man's legal inability to effectively determine if his partner is actually taking birth control and his lack of choice in carrying the pregnancy to term means that the entire situation from the start is biased agai…
/r/MensRights26/08/12 04:03 PM
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"Either accept the risks of sex, or don't have sex" was a pretty popular argument against abortion way back when. It didn't make sense then, and it doesn't make sense now. Both parties are responsible for birth control, but the birth control a woman has access to doesn't hamper the sensitivity of their genitals and happens to be much more effective than a simple barrier. Women have the advantage in this situation, and when the dynamic of the situation can be changed (via male birth control pill,…
/r/MensRights26/08/12 03:43 PM
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One one hand, this is a perfectly good example of a double-standard where women are allowed to voice opinions of men that men would be castrated for even thinking; not to mention a completely repugnant idea (would the wife get access to the man's donated sperm in the event of a divorce, seeing as how in the hypothetical situation it's a "marital asset"?). On the other hand, it's one story, AND it's in the Daily Mail. The Human Fertilisation and Embryology Authority (the organization to which thi…
/r/MensRights26/08/12 03:33 PM
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I actually agree with the advice given here, and the commenter added "This was in no way OPs fault, in any way, shape, or form. I was simply trying to offer something which might be able to help." Saying that people have the power to take control of their own safety is not blaming them for not doing it earlier. Of course, if it was a woman posting there might be a completely different dynamic.
/r/MensRights26/08/12 02:50 PM
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The only thing wrong with her choosing to quit her factory job is that it means she's not the working woman's hero. She's obviously allowed to quit her job (and people are allowed to hold personal judgements against her for it, as they are entitled to their opinions no matter how much we may disagree), but a bit of iconoclasm--especially against feminist icons--is good for a little fun now and then.
/r/MensRights26/08/12 05:50 AM
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It's perfectly fine to have be a man and have an opinion on a woman's reproductive rights, as long as it's the RIGHT opinion. Of course, this is absolute horse shit and I'm saying that as a pro-choice man.
/r/MensRights26/08/12 01:11 AM
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My brother told me once that feminists who fight against men's rights and use irrationality and hysteria to scare women and shame men aren't "real" feminists. I tried to show him large feminist organizations with massive state funding that do those things, but I don't think he believed me. Yeah, it pisses me off...and there's nothing more aggravating than hearing a feminist claim that the only solution to men's issues is more feminism.
/r/MensRights25/08/12 08:38 PM
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His comment was, but the mother's claim that "such an order would be oppressive" was the thing I was responding to.
/r/MensRights25/08/12 08:36 PM
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Both.
/r/MensRights25/08/12 06:49 PM
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Oppressive? To make her pay back the money she used the court system to take from a man who was not the father of her child? What a fucking joke.
/r/MensRights25/08/12 06:29 PM
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I wasn't suggesting she was lying about having depression (although there's no evidence to suggest she did other than her testimony, it could have been left out of the article so I can't make a call). I was suggesting that depression does not excuse paternity fraud, and does not justify her paying her victim $15 for every two weeks he paid child support for a kid that wasn't his.
/r/MensRights25/08/12 05:36 PM
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Our species needs both men and women to function--not just in the reproductive sense, but in the societal sense as well. The author says I don’t dismiss the years I put in as a doting father but goes on to say in his description of a human egg cell's existance at some point, your father spent a few minutes close by, but then left. completely dismissing the usefulness of men as reproductive protectors and providers. Just because we aren't the sole protectors/providers does not mean we're entirely…
/r/MensRights25/08/12 05:26 PM
0

I am torn between my appreciation for a judge recognizing a man as a perfectly fit parent and my loathing of Usher.
/r/MensRights25/08/12 05:16 PM
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You got a link to the story?
/r/MensRights25/08/12 04:23 PM
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She told the court she had suffered depression and stress from an earlier abusive relationship and her memory and thought processes were not clear. I don't know what's more sad--the fact that she thought this excused her behaviour, or the fact that in the eyes of the court it probably did. She was only ordered to pay the man back $15 a fortnight.
/r/MensRights25/08/12 04:18 PM
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I guess assuming that rape allegations are falsified based on evidence suggesting the sex was consensual is horrifyingly misogynist. How stupid of me. Also, I seriously doubt the numbers about rape she's throwing around. The prevalence of successful false rape allegations makes statements like "30 per cent of rape victims are attacked by a boyfriend or husband" really hard to believe. In case any feminist tries to say to you Oh come on, guys. False rape allegations don't happen that often. Let m…
/r/MensRights25/08/12 04:15 PM
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I'm using girlwriteswhat's terminology here, but socially speaking men are seen as agents and women are seen as objects. Men are expected to have power and take control of their own existence even when it's impossible to do so, and women are expected to be helpless victims in constant need of help even if they're perfectly capable. This means that in a situation where both men and women are responsible for a problem they both had opportunities to prevent and both have options to solve, men are s…
/r/MensRights25/08/12 03:13 PM
0

Not only did he lie about cutting healthcare, he lied about just how much debt Ontario was in and got elected on that lie. He governed like he had a majority, and then promoted a conservative MP so he can actually get one. Almost as bad as Harper.
/r/MensRights25/08/12 05:08 AM
13

Well, now I know that if I get prostate cancer I have to move. Fucking Dalton McGuinty...
/r/MensRights24/08/12 09:53 PM
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Maybe not, but it's funny. Considering many of the claims leveled at this subreddit, being called overly sarcastic is not one I'm too worried about.
/r/MensRights24/08/12 09:17 PM
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Aside from it being extremely sexist, it would cause women enormous amounts of butthurt if something analogous was said about them.
/r/MensRights24/08/12 12:29 AM
1

It's really incredible how okay it is in our society to hate men, and just how integrated that hate is within all layers of our culture. The fact that it's a part of our school system is downright sickening.
/r/MensRights23/08/12 07:09 PM
1

Her indoctrination was only a problem for my white knight brother. I don't think justice is necessary in this case, because my parents raised me to be a critical thinker despite their fear that I'd think critically about the wrong things. I hope against hope that the day they learn I'm not a feminist they can see it as a success rather than a failure. More likely than not I'd seek justice against the anti-male teachers in my childhood.
/r/MensRights23/08/12 05:48 PM
1

Why do you say that?
/r/MensRights23/08/12 05:03 PM
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DNA matters when women want child support, but doesn't mean shit when men are victims of paternity fraud and forced into raising a kid that isn't theirs or never being able to meet their own flesh and blood.
/r/MensRights23/08/12 03:52 PM
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A series of things in my childhood lead to my becoming an MRA (although I would argue I always was). The first of which was a girl I went to school with. Blond hair, blue eyes, cute as a button, spawn of the devil. This girl was my archenemy. We'd always be doing minor little kid things to each other because we claimed to hate each other's guts. But every time she'd do some little kid stuff to me, I'd either tell a teacher and have absolutely nothing happen to this girl or I'd take justice into …
/r/MensRights23/08/12 02:37 PM
8

Why not both? It always seemed to me that feminism fabricates reasons to hate men, then uses that hate to justify its selfishness.
/r/MensRights23/08/12 07:12 AM
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men who father through rape are able to assert the same custody and visitation rights to their children that other fathers enjoy. Then it should be an easy matter to deny him the right to see his child and get child support from him.
/r/MensRights22/08/12 11:10 PM
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Or, apparently, the ABILITY to consider their opinions.
/r/MensRights22/08/12 09:38 PM
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What surprised me was that he claimed to have been an MRA before doing more "research" on the subject. Considering his sources are Wikipedia and women's studies textbooks, I suspect he's nothing more than your average white knight who drank the feminist kool-aid in university.
/r/MensRights22/08/12 08:52 PM
2

"We were opressed in the past" is a lovely bit of intellectual dishonesty that is meant to justify misandry. Even worse is "we're oppressed now", which is usually followed by examples of problems women face and ignoring the fact that in many areas of our society men have it worse. Yeah, people need history lessons--but no matter what there are going to be people who say of the men who made up human history's peasant class "Well, at least they were allowed to go to work!"
/r/MensRights22/08/12 06:41 PM
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whatever led the woman to experience me with such fear must have been terrible. Laughed my ass off that one. Woman does something completely irrational? Must have been a man's fault! To live in the United States as a woman is to live in the midst of a warzone. I wonder what he'd think of violent crime victim rates by gender, or that in 2010 an equal number of men were "forced to penetrate" as there were female rape victims. I wonder what he'd think of DV statistics saying men are no more likely …
/r/MensRights22/08/12 06:31 PM
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It would hurt the children What hurts children the most is not seeing their father--I refuse to believe that causing a man incredible financial/emotional strain to directly benefit a woman with some airy promise that it will be good for the kids when the realities of fatherlessness are so apparent.
/r/MensRights22/08/12 03:37 PM
1

Of course HR sides with management unconditionally. They shouldn't, of course, but you can understand why they would. No, I was referring to the author making him/herself appear to be a dogma-driven, buzzword-spouting feminist. I thought the use of the term "employer apologist" was silly enough to warrant comment, that's all.
/r/MensRights22/08/12 09:21 AM
2

employer apologists I think it might be too late for this one.
/r/MensRights22/08/12 08:36 AM
2

Not under any circumstances. Question everything you read, check sources, and speak up when misinformation is being spread.
/r/MensRights22/08/12 05:47 AM
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THIS. The excuse I most often hear from people trying to justify women lying about birth control is "If you'd just use a CONDOM it would be fine", but I guess women can't be held responsible for their actions by the media because that's misogyny.
/r/MensRights22/08/12 04:18 AM
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I think we're missing something important. It might just be me, but I've noticed circumcision as an issue getting a lot of press recently. Of course, the vast majority of people who see blatant misinformation presented by Johns-Hopkins will believe it, but there are certainly more people who at least know about it. Ideally, now would be the time for some anti-circ activism so we can get our voices heard while the issue is popular.
/r/MensRights22/08/12 04:03 AM
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Women feeling unsafe in the "public sphere" as you put it (specifically with reference to being raped) is a result of hysteria. Yeah, women get catcalls or groped in public, but men are by far more likely to be the victim of a violent crime walking down the street alone at night than a woman is. The author states that this "asshole" complaining about sexism is simply ignorant that the world we live in is unsafe for women, completely ignoring the truth of the matter. I don't think it's wrong for …
/r/MensRights21/08/12 05:18 PM
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is this real life
/r/MensRights21/08/12 09:00 AM
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B-b-but it's for the good of the children!
/r/MensRights21/08/12 02:00 AM
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The frankly pathetic rationalizations of misandry being thrown about by the mothers on that site are nothing but complete and utter selfishness. It’s no different than going to a sperm bank and becoming pregnant with in-vetro, it’s just cheaper. If you don’t mind not collecting child support to raise your kid, then I see no problem with it. Every time I see anti-father bullshit like this I wonder how exactly we are to convince these people that men are not tools, not ATMs or sperm banks that the…
/r/MensRights21/08/12 01:59 AM
2

If only the majority of male legislators didn't bend over to every anti-male bill the feminist lobby tries to push through the legislative process! Oh, wait.
/r/MensRights21/08/12 01:53 AM
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No, you're right. I admit I'm not too familiar with Ontario common law, but I looked it up and it says "the Ontario Family Law Act specifically recognizes common law spouses in §29, dealing with spousal support issues" and that "the courts have to look to concepts such as the constructive or resulting trust to divide property in an equitable manner between partners." (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common-law_marriage#Ontario) My parents fit the criteria. I guess that means I don't get to have kid…
/r/MensRights20/08/12 07:18 PM
2

My parents have been together for almost a quarter of a century. Mortgage, car, two kids, vacations every year...basically, they're committed as fuck. They've also never been married. My view on marriage has always been one of "what is the fucking point?" because the most successful relationship I've ever personally been a witness to did not involve marriage in any capacity.
/r/MensRights20/08/12 03:13 PM
1

Advertising is a company with a product paying someone who knows what people respond to to sell said product. Commercials pander just as much as pop culture, and for the same purpose. The only thing both commercials and pop culture (although it's hard to see a difference if it exists) seek to change in their viewers is how much of the advertiser's shit they're going to buy.
/r/MensRights20/08/12 02:56 PM
2

I've never subscribed to the belief held by some feminists that popular culture/mass media controls how people behave. It's been my observation that these things reflect our culture, not shape them. Art shapes culture--pop culture is pandering. Commercials think men are idiots because people do, and people think men are idiots because men are easy targets.
/r/MensRights20/08/12 07:12 AM
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Do you believe that men and woman face an equal amount of sexual assault and domestic violence? If we're counting prisons, no. Men face more sexual assault. I personally believe that men may face more domestic violence than we're led to believe by statistics (which in my country Canada prove that men and women suffer equal amounts of violence across the board and in the United States proves that women instigate DV more) because of the shame men feel when being abused and the lack of punishment f…
/r/MensRights19/08/12 09:47 PM
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Circumcision and the rather callous way it's discussed by world leaders and public figures has always been one of the things that shocked me most about taking the red pill. I mean, I grew up questioning everything I was taught (quickly learning not to voice any concerns about feminism with my mother) but the idea that circumcision was even an issue didn't enter my mind once. It makes me kinda freaked out that something so large and so horrible goes unnoticed by so many, myself formerly included.
/r/MensRights19/08/12 09:36 PM
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To be fair, the liberal end of the political spectrum holds a lot of responsibility for some of the more fucked up things men face today. It's possible to be liberal and an MRA to be sure, but liberals as a whole deserve to get called out for their role in the advancement of institutional misandry.
/r/MensRights17/08/12 02:04 AM
1

The name is sarcasm. What, no actual reply?
/r/MensRights17/08/12 01:54 AM
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I can see how feminism is similar to Marxist philosophy to some extent, but any non-retarded Marxist should be extremely put off by the notion that working class men were "privileged" because their wives and daughters weren't forced to become slaves to and soldiers for the rich and powerful.
/r/MensRights17/08/12 01:44 AM
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