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You absolutely can learn confidence through practice; in fact, I’d argue most it us did in our teens and early 20s. I am not arguing you cannot learn confidence through practice. I am arguing that confidence doesn't matter until you pass a looks threshhold
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 10:02 PM
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I disagree completely. It has nothing to do with practice. Mate selection studies show women have a looks threshold that must be crossed before any other attribute is looked at. There are times where you are close enough to that threshold that she can see other traits but that depends on the woman. Meanwhile, there will always be times where you will be rejected on looks alone because that is what the data says.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 09:58 PM
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Perhaps on the confidence front. But we are experts at reading body language. You spot the IOIs and that gives you confidence. If you get disgust - how can you be confident? Personally I was always confident - it didn't matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 09:54 PM
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Indeed. Its also not just romantic attention (not to say you excluded others). Like - girls would never message you in any capacity, text, or call. You become attractive and they find ~ways~ to talk to you. They wouldn't ever ask you questions during conversation. They would basically ignore you exist in group settings. You basically get 0 interaction with women in any form if you are unattractive. The contrast was depressing to me but also not surprising after i looked at the psychology researc…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 09:47 PM
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I was unnatractive and women treated me like shit I became attractive through a serious glow up and suddenly women treated me amazing. Just my lived experience as a former overweight man.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 09:27 PM
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cheating is p equal among the genders from what i've seen Cheating being equal among genders does not make saying many women pursue married men is false. For one that makes the assumption that men and women cheat for the same reasons (hint, men cheat to get sex women cheat to level up their boyfriends). This is moot though because its not relevant to the original topic women are more attractive and pleasant to be around in general than men. Not true at all. Most women just haven't been told they…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 08:04 PM
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well no one wants to date a married man Irrelevant. I am saying that these high value men are rare not that women dont want to date married men. It turns out many women are OK pursuing a married man though, so you are wrong there. well yeah, bc women are non-threatening and pleasant to be around. getting a coffee with a random woman sounds fine or even fun. getting coffee w a random man sounds scary and taxing. Sounds like misandry. Either way you agreed so what is your point. why are you changi…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 07:10 PM
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They will always happen. There is a great book that touches on it (the way of the superior man). All stages. Especially early, and especially if she is unsure. If she is unsure her testing will get more aggressive -> you get insecure she dumps you. Shes upset that you aren't the man she thought you were. But like for instance on a dating app -> girl opens up with an insult -> its a test -> "are you always such a bitch to people you first meet?" You can playfully retaliate, you can ignore, you ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 07:06 PM
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I would say those women are the exception. But as they say, never stick your dick in crazy. Women testing mens masculinity is just the norm. Insecure and emasculated men fail, strong men pass. Those same women wouldn't apologize. Its the women who do after they test you and you pass and you call them out that are the keepers. They can see they behaved wrong, they apologize, but they can never explain why they tested you (Its subconcious - they are constantly looking for reassurance that you are …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 06:50 PM
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You need to call out bad behavior from women you are interested in. They basically test to see if you can tell right from wrong. So they will be a bitch to you (especially when they first meet you) to see if you are strong enough to stand up to them. They will do this repeatedly during the relationship. They will manipulate, gaslight, emotionally abuse, and the SECOND you let them get away with it and sulk they lose attraction to you. If you call them out, they get mad (a ruse), and then good wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 06:43 PM
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And most women want that. They just don't want to be seen as a whore so lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 06:41 PM
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And mate selection studies show women behave otherwise. So they are just inauthentic because they do not want to appear shallow.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 06:41 PM
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And if you eliminate overweight men, not married, and men under 5'10" you get like 3% of men. When you do the math from dating apps, high value men (>5'10, 100K a year, not obese, not married) are 20x more in demand than high value women. This is not even a joke. Men are much more fair to less attractive women then women are towards lower value men. Mate selection studies show that looks are a dealbreaker for WOMEN not for men. You don't realize this but pretty women are an abundant resource. Hi…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 06:24 PM
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shes trying to manipulate by insinuating you are being ridiculous, when in fact she just has nothing to respond with. So she tries to discredit what you said on the basis that it is absurd.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 06:21 PM
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Yes women want sex just as much as men. from my personal experience I was a virgin at 30. I got red pilled. Learned everything about attraction. Worked on my physical appearance (how i dressed, my hair, strength training, bouldering). I became chad. I went from getting ghosted on apps for 4 years with no dates and basically zero conversation to having 8 dates scheduled within 1 week of updating my photos. I had two sexual experiences with two diff women within that month. These were women that I…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 06:08 PM
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Women gaslight men into believing they do not care about these things because it looks poorly on their character. Once you learn that women care more about perception of their qualities than their actual qualities you will understand why they behave like this. Its virtue signalling. Everyone wants the best deal they can get in life. Saying women like money and status is perceived negatively because it presents women as shallow. They get defensive so use social manipulation to appear more virtuou…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 05:07 PM
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i do not know. Men value authenticity and bitchy women are just more authentic. Id rather they bitch it out as it comes then blow up once a week or once a month.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 02:16 PM
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Pretty much. I got attractive and would kiss emoji -> ask on dates through OLD. After getting ghosted and given the ringer through conversations (1 month for one girl...) prior to getting fit and muscular. The type of texts I send my current partner... just yesterday I sent a photo of our sex pillow with a vibrator on top. Flirty and sexual texts are exciting. You just need to learn when its appropriate to send them and also be attractive enough to get away with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 02:14 PM
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All women use their femininity to manipulate men. Once you learn what constitutes manipulation, emotional abuse, etc, you will see women employ it everywhere in all capacities. Its very eye opening.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 08:02 PM
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Exception makes the rule fallacy. Women are very attracted to men who cannot be manipulated. The use of these argumentative fallacies and men not being able to call it out is the problem. Because most men are weak and socially incompetent. Even if they can spot the manipulation they lack the spine to do something about it. Thus they get cucked in relationships, completely emasculated, dead bedroom situations. Because they allow themselves to be emasculated. These discussions play out in relation…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 07:59 PM
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The point is not to change the girls point of view. The point is for other men to read it and come to their own conclusions.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 02:25 AM
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Neither of that changes the fact that as time goes on the dating market fills up with avoidants.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 11:53 PM
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He is projecting his feeling that it looks childish to seek comfort. I do agree with him on other points. I find women my age lack do maturity or knowledge. But again, to succeed i had to learn a lot. Feels like the women my age haven't had to learn. From knowledge about the world around them to emotional intelligence.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 06:16 AM
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Avoidance is the answer. Avoidant attachment as a result of trauma. Due to life events, childhood avents, relationship woes, etc. As you go through life you naturally go through more things. People who are older simply have more baggage. Also as time goes on the dating market fills up with avoidants. So older people in the dating market tend to have much higher rates of avoidance Its not a rarity, it actually becomes quite common as you get older. You are correct that some women do be become mor…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 05:51 AM
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If a girl was less insecure around intimacy when she was younger and was more experimental - only to become insecure around intimacy and not want to explore with me yes I would see that as a red flag. I do not want to deal with a woman who has insecurities around sex. Its exhausting and I have needs. Ultimately - I will just go find a woman who will meet them because that is not hard for someone in my position. I want someone to have fun who wants to have fun sex. Sex is important to me in a rel…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 08:41 PM
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That's just them not feeling lust. The opposite of lust is disgust, and if you they dont lust after you, you disgust them. The idea of being with you is vile. So become lustful to them. Take the red pill. Now you see another side of women. At the end of the day, women are gonna follow their feelings. So you can either save one woman from this atrocious dating market by becoming an expert manipulator (seductive) or die alone. Every woman I dated after becoming chad had high expectations. Until I …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 08:48 PM
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I got ignored for years. I learned how shallow women are. I played the game and I won. Now I now how to seduce any woman I want. I get lots of attention. I have mastered skills that no woman has even considered relevant to master in order to attract the other gender. ​ So yes - why should I settle for just one? why should I view women nicely? ​ The fact is I still do and instead of taking as many women as I want and use and discard them I found one good girl to save from this atrocious dating ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 08:06 PM
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Yes, in terms of rudeness. You linked a different topic entirely (threatened). The cattyness is almost exclusively female, and there is plenty of research on intrasexual mate competition within men and women that you should look at because it details the science behind your question.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 08:03 PM
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Men do not want competition for their woman. If a woman has a lot of male interest the man sees that as a problem. Its not worth the hassle so they find a woman who gets less attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 05:50 PM
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Yep - studies show that men who have had sex with other men are repulsive to women. Its a fact - get OVER IT.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 05:49 PM
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Read up on female intrasexual competition. This is a uniquely female behaviour and is absolutely gendered.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 05:45 PM
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got fit and muscular really good haircut from a good barber dressed well good photos Im naturally attractive but was overweight which meant i got 0 interest until 30. My employer is also highly sought after (tech engineer) went from 0 dates over 4 years to 8 dates within two weeks of updating my photos.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 05:25 PM
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Improve yourself in every way possible or die alone. Your only option is to take the red pill or be lonely. Former 30 y/o virgin made chad. Do not let blue pillers gaslight you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 06:41 PM
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Please have a rational discussion. Your manipulation is annoying.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 05:16 PM
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And with that you have used an argumentative fallacy to change the argument to be about something else.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 05:02 PM
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'end up' isn't relevant. Because once women mature and age they are willing to settle. That doesn't help men who aren't settling age.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 04:50 PM
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And getting a woman when you have money is claiming that power is it not?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 04:49 PM
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Dated a girl who had a basement full of gifts. She asked me for an ebike on like the 6th date. I told her to start saving - she ghosted me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 04:48 PM
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I learned the red pill and implemented it into my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 04:41 PM
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This reads like its written by someone who doesn't understand the social aspect of games while subsequently watched soaps and dramas and tv shows and movies all throughout her life. Games are incredibly social. They build a ton of very valuable soft skills. There is a reason online games are so popular, because the people who play them interact with other people the entire time. The ignorance lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 10:45 PM
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And that is not what I said. Being attractive gives you access to more sex = more likely more experienced. It also heightens the emotional response and thus pleasure the woman receives. Fat slob panting and sweating all over you vs Jason mamoa sensually making love to you. Basically the more attractive you are the most lust women feel, the more they are able to be present and want to be fucking railed. They enjoy it more, want it more often. Just my experience as an overweight male turned chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 10:29 PM
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Why do you care if you get banned. Just make a new account. Those mods are just insecure and do not want to believe the facts because the facts make them uncomfortable.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 10:27 PM
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And generally speaking all women want to feel the immense pleasure that a man skilled in the bedroom can give them. At least - once they have experienced it. Its why alpha widowing is a thing. Its also why its NOT ok for a man to be inexperienced. Because a lot of women have had that experience, they now have higher expectations. It is NOT OK to be inexperienced. Sexual satisfaction is immensely important for women. Especially since many have had a chad that did what no other man has done before…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 09:13 PM
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Indeed. The same thing has been seen in real life, for instance a study on speed dating came to the same conclusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 09:11 PM
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Because men know how men think, and women do not. They are incredibly naive.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 07:44 PM
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Every one of your arguments is the 'if a then b' fallacy. You are changing the words which changes the meaning.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 07:40 PM
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Yes. I became chad and I have basically infinite options on the app. I can respond with a kiss emoji and immediately ask a girl out with basically 100% acceptance rate. I can put absolutely zero effort in. fyi before I became chad I was ghosted after 1-3 messages for over 4 years. So I have seen both sides. IRL I gotta do my hair, wear nice clothes, actually go to a place women worth meeting are at. Its exhausting.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 07:38 PM
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Straight women have the lowest incidents of orgasms during sex out of ANY group. it's a global problem, not a local one. One reason why the red pill says get fit and muscular (lust & desire) to improve physical attaction, and also improve ability in the bedroom . It teaches men seduction so that they can get a woman to orgasm. It teaches men how to touch, where to touch, how to use their penis during penetration so that women can orgasm. The red pill be the best you can be truly helps men solve …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 07:36 PM
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Facts. I was like 30lb overweight on a big build and got ghosted for years, basically ignored. Lost it in 3 months and had 8 dates in a two week period. Yet you see all these girls dads bods and they're all similar levels of overweight. Yet these women wouldn't ever date any man like their fathers. Delulu Women (and men) are just shallow.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 07:33 PM
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I don't think men claim muscles on women don't matter. I think muscles aren't something men look for in traits of a woman. That doesn't mean muscles are not attractive. It means that men like attractive women in the eyes of men, and women do not need muscles to be attractive to men. It doesn't mean that muscles would'nt make a woman more attractive or less attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 07:32 PM
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Other attributes only matter once a looks threshold is crossed.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 07:31 PM
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Also mate selection studies show that for women looks are a dealbreaker and a looks threshhold must be crossed before any other attribute is considered. So despite women saying looks don't matter means something else, they are also straight up lying when they say looks don't matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 07:30 PM
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I don’t think anyone is scared of men they reject because of their looks, they’re afraid of rejected men because of the threat of violence or retaliation. This is why dating app data is so relevant, because it shows how women behave without fear of being judged by others, or violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 12:05 PM
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But men cum 1-3 times and are done. Women can have multiple orgasms and more often in a day so in fact their libido is less limited.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 12:04 PM
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Partially about eugenics. There are ways that women demonstrate hypergamy (such as through $) that is not eugenic related. Hypergamy and hypergamous traits are both biological and constructed within our society.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 08:14 PM
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They do think it, but subconsciously in the reptilian part of their mammalian brain. They lust after men with good genetics, and thus seek them out. They get scared and afraid of men with bad genetics, and thus value signal / seek validation that those men are creeps or not in their league. This is their brain thinking for them. Good genetics are attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 08:12 PM
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Sure - but that is a different argument entirely. Women want sex with men they lust after, and do not want sex with men they do not. They still want sex just as much as men. Just they have differing standards in regards to who they have sex with.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 08:06 PM
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I disagree. Men are direct and open with their interest in sex. Women are indirect. They will reject men with a small penis and gaslight the man into believing it was something else. They will reject men who cannot perform and do the same. They will reject men who say they are inexperienced on the basis that it is unlikely that they will be able to satisfy her. After becoming chad I found that women were incredibly sex driven. I just had to be someone who made them feel lust, then I saw a comple…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 07:58 PM
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I don't see it as a waste of energy. I am here to raise other men up, and if I have to deal with a few ignorant women so be it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 07:52 PM
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I am not shaming men who are virgins. Nor did i state they were inferior. I merely told them in a direct way that it is not OK. Because it isn't if the goal is to date a woman. Once again, men putting other men down under the guise of care while blaming women. There was no blame towards women. I did not put them down. I told them what is expected of them and how to improve. That is raising them up not down. You seem to not understand gendered communication styles. Men speak directly, women indir…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 06:08 PM
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I am not upset at all. Where do you get this idea? Also - how am I shaming men? I merely state what is expected of them. I told them how to improve themselves. I raised them up.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 06:00 PM
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I can see you have an IQ of <50. Good day.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 05:58 PM
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It is possible to take seriously, I did, and I found success. I am sorry that my own experience and my own advice makes you uncomfortable. I know it may be difficult to accept that you can learn and have chosen not to. No you do not need to step up, nor do you owe women anything. But the fact is that 60% of men failed to reproduce. So if you want to live a fulfulling life the fact is that sexual prowess is important to women, as is your appearance, how socially competent you are, etc. These are …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 05:53 PM
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Exception makes the rule fallacy. Yes there is porn that could help someone learn a few tricks. That does not mean that porn is the best resource to learn those skills nor does it mean someone can just watch porn (A specific type of porn that is more realistic is required) There are pornographic homemade tutorials to all the positions on pornhub which I recommended. I in fact already recommended that type of porn - so what are you even adding to the conversation. Also porn wont teach you how to …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 05:42 PM
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Porn is not a good representation for what women enjoy and want in the bedroom
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 05:32 PM
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So is being a turbo virgin. But a turbo virgin can do everything he can to ensure that when he does get the opportunity he doesn't fuck it up. That's not pathetic or humiliating, that is a story of perseverance, discipline, and grit. I was 30 and a virgin, I did what I suggested, and my first sexual experiences after being pilled I didn't fuck up. Because i knew everything about womens anatomy. As a result, women kept coming back because shocker - I could get them off and get them off real good.…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 05:29 PM
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I never said using your hands to masturbate with it. Practicing thrusting in various positions is something you absolutely can do. As well as practicing reverse kegels to stop yourself from cumming. Have more critical thinking lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 05:16 PM
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Mhmm. Its about opening your eyes to how the world and the people in it work. How you go about learning that after gaining a higher level of perception is completely on the individual. Some individual selling shit online isn't a good role model for what the red pill actually is and it causes a lot of issues in discussions as people talk about two different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 05:07 PM
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Thats why the red pill teaches men to improve their social skills. A lot of women are anxious and want men to lead and direct the conversation. If men themselves are anxious they aren't able to do this and it puts women off. I remember not even being that attracted to this one guy but once the conversations started rolling out I was super turned on because he stimulated my mind which= mind blowing sex +1 for the red pill. It works. You want a man that leads conversations and shows social prowess…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 05:05 PM
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This is truthful. It is NOT OK to a virgin. It is NOT OK to be inexperienced. Sexual satisfaction is immensely important for women. Especially since many have had a chad that did what no other man has done before. It sets the expectation for all future men, and your virgin inexperienced ass cannot compete with chad. Let alone any other man who has been in relationships for years having sex regularly. Thus you MUST learn any way you can. Books (she comes first), youtube (Caitlyn V), pornhub (tuto…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 05:01 PM
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I had a feminist get upset at me for asking her to go half. When she did finally break up with me she brought it up and said 'read the room'. It was the most eye opening experience to how bullshit feminism is and that is when I stopped dating feminists because she gave me a crash course in how manipulative women are.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 04:51 PM
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Very good point. They may be more likely but also its relatively small anyway. I would agree that because men grow up receiving zero support they are less likely to give it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 04:50 PM
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Also - i find it highly ironic that rather than respond to what I said you used manipulation in a sad attempt to invalidate it. You changed the topic to be about me, rather than responding. Argumentative fallacy. You tried to attack my character, rather than responding. Argumentative fallacy. You just proved my point :)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 04:41 PM
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I have a wonderful life, wonderful partner. Are you projecting your own insecurity about your own life here?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 04:38 PM
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Simple - they aren't attracted to those men. They aren't self aware enough to identify this. Also - more traditional men aren't attracted to these women. They will get put in the sleeper category and used for sex & never anything long term.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 04:37 PM
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That's what women keep saying isn't it - where have all the good men gone? Also shown by dating app stats - women only see very few men as viable partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 04:34 PM
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This has nothing to do with people selling the red pill. Purely by definition of the red pill here. The red pill describes the world and the people in it. For instance in evolutionary biology we learn that men tend to survive through physical prowess and women survive through social prowess. Thus they become quite skilled at manipulating men to get what they want. They are presumed virtuous and they take advantage of weak men who do not understand female nature. For hard statistics, most women l…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 04:27 PM
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I am not arguing - you are. And you are grasping at straws.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 04:23 PM
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It may be more clear to phrase it in that way but that does not make the original statement wrong. It makes it less clear than phrasing it a different way. But again, you are changing the argument to be about phrasing. Sure - it could be improved. But that does not change the message.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 10:59 PM
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But I don't think men are taught how to integrate their emotions at all. That's why they have more outburts and are less able to tolerate distress like someone crying than women are We aren't talking about most men, we are talking about red pill and red pill men. Most men aren't red pilled. The red pill teaches men how to deal with their emotions. It teaches emotional intelligence. yes that sounds like a great path for men to go down, I fully support it. Good - then you are red pilled in this wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 10:44 PM
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OK so you are changing the argument in a different way: asking how fallacies could be codified into feminism When its the behaviour of feminists that I am talking about. Not some academic description. Which you expertly provided evidence for - Thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 10:37 PM
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For instance this is social manipulation. You just attempted to discredit what I said by changing the topic to be about what is taught in gender studies classes.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 10:18 PM
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rock = passively sitting there and not being emotional (because you repress your emotions) First off- you say repress. Rather its having the emotional intelligence to integrate emotions. Through various strategies - breathing, shadow work, emotion integration, perspective, etc. Being stoic is being emotionally intelligent - not emotionally daft. Secondly - being a rock also encompasses being something hard for her to lean on. Sure avoidance may be related, but also if women are generally anxious…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 10:15 PM
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All women can. Men just suck. Every time a woman has said that she couldn't I proved her wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 10:05 PM
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It actually probably helped. Social proof & mate choice copying. Also you probably have more experience so will be better sexually, which is a huge +
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 10:04 PM
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This is called dread, and only happens when women date out of their league (most women try). If a woman dated on her level she wouldn't feel that anxiety. Unfortunately its that anxiety that women chase.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 10:01 PM
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Thats why the red pill teaches men how women manipulate men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 10:00 PM
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Its called lust. They feel lust which is 'the spark'
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 09:58 PM
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Explain how they are mutually exclusive and being a rock is not being emotionally supportive. It sounds like you just have a diff idea of what being a rock means in regards to the red pill. Its common to be repulsed by people who require energy. Neediness gives women the ick just like it gives men the ick. Anger is appropriate. a person who uses their strength relative to others in the community to make vulnerable people feel safe to be themselves Thats literally what being a rock is...
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 09:51 PM
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They are testing to see if you can spot their social manipulation. Call them out next time and see what happens. They will blow up, don't back down. Then they get the tingles.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 09:46 PM
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They gaslight - pure and simple. Its the feminist agenda - use social manipulation to take control of society.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 09:44 PM
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Its inherited family trauma. Your parents probably sucked at intimacy, so you are uncomfortable and insecure around it. You never learned how to flirt, never saw people succesfully flirting, and so flirting makes you uncomfortable because it breeds anxiety and strong emotions. Its a lot of trauma. Pretty easy to solve though - learn how to flirt, learn body language to know when to flirt, and practice flirting.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 09:34 PM
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A lot of red pill teachings teach men to behave in a fatherly way. In a strong masculine way that comes across as a father figure. Its attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 09:32 PM
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And the way they do that is using what is between their legs.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 09:31 PM
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My experience was I got pilled and then went from virgin to having to sort through the trash of very damaged trash women who were all throwing themselves at me.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 09:22 PM
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You have toxic shame around intimacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 09:20 PM
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What Pill do you identify with? Red Where did you learn about that particular philosophy? Youtube, reddit, male spaces in one sentence, what are the main tenets of your pill philosophy? Be the best you can be How much do you identity with it? i.e. is it 100% of your focus, do you barely think about it, or somewhere in between? 100% In what real world, tangible ways has belief in your Pill improved your life? I went from being a virgin at 30 to having many options. I found a wonderful long term p…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 09:18 PM
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Yes, feminism has turned into a cesspool of hate, manipulation, and argumentative fallacies. The women who follow it are very skilled at social manipulation.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 09:11 PM
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TRP teaches you to be the best you can be. So if you were pilled and a virgin you would learn how to pleasure a woman. Read books like she comes first, watch youtubers like kaitlyn V. Do kegels abd reverse kegels. Practice thrusting technique with a fleshlight. Watch sex guides on porn hub. My first experience as a former virgin I got a woman to orgasm. Just with fingers because i understood how to finger a woman. I read she came first and understood exactly how to hit the g spot, stimulate the …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 09:02 PM
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Duh, women speak indirectly. also 'not my type' is also 'you are too ugly to date me'.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 08:58 PM
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If a woman is being bitchy, I have a natural reaction to ignore her because she is insecure. However if you don't speak up in a relationship and stand up for yourself it hurts womens attraction to you. All women I have dated have shit tested in this way. Thrown insults, been mean, etc. If you just take it and don't call her out its bad news.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 08:57 PM
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The masculinity part of women are children is to be their rock. Women need emotional support. They need help talking through and dealing with their emotions. So rather than get angry at them for having outbursts, the masculine would support the person who has outbursts much like they would support a child. Any man who has ever dated a woman has experience with womens emotional nature. woman gets emotional -> man gets angry -> woman feels unheard, unsupported, unloved. woman gets emotional -> man…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 08:55 PM
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Yep. It's just a convenient way to discredit red pillers in general. Its a fallacy and complete delusion of course, but then again, that's just how people argue against the red pill on this subreddit. They can convince enough weak people through their use of social manipulation because quite frankly most people aren't smart enough to spot it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 12:15 AM
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I think most redpillers would love to live in those distopias because they will finally feel like they have power over women and will show them their place. Why do you think that? I don't think most red pillers even want a traditional stay at home mom. You are confusing tradcon's with the red pill. The red pill is merely truths about the world we live in. There may be studies that show women at home are happier, but the conclusion that women should stay at home is not red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 10:35 PM
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The worst is women are not held accountable for virtue signalling. Collectively they form and echo chamber and no one calls them out for being inauthentic. Its a huge shame in our society. Lots of weak men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 10:12 PM
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yes there is other influences that are not being controlled for, that doesn't mean that the conlusion is wrong. We haven't discussed the relative influence of the attributes in swipe left swipe right. And other studies looked at face ratings and rating men and found women will rate men low in attractiveness until such a point they get to know them, then they rate men in similar proportion as men rate women. These studies found that men rate women fairly according to their attractiveness at first…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 09:01 PM
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If mens profiles are overall worse, they will still be rated according to eachother. The distribution will look the same because its reasonable to assume that the average photo and profile quality will be consistent. There are other studies that just did rating faces and weren't on dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 08:48 PM
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I provided several examples, sex 7 times being a false choice is not relevant. The point is too much of a good thing is not appreciated. The right amount is. I agree that certain women will prefer more or less attention. For example if I can't speak to someone for a while due to being busy that's completely fine as long as my partner knows where I stand with him/ her So what are you even arguing. I suggested perfectly reasonable things like going to the gym, hanging out with the boys, working, f…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 08:44 PM
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You mean that using objective data of women effectively rating the attractiveness of men on dating apps is a gross extrapolation and a misinterpretation? https://www.eviemagazine.com/post/women-more-selective-80-men-unattractive-on-dating-apps-recent-research The data shows how women behave when no one is looking over their shoulder. Or so they thought. You are wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 08:18 PM
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lol, educate yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 07:56 PM
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they're more sensitive to negative emotions Have you considered that their increased sensitivity to the anxiety of you being away from her makes her more attracted to you & desire you more. Both in the time you spend together and the time you are intimate with each other? I don't believe inducing negative feelings of uncertainty, insecurity , disposability makes women like you more. That's more of a power game. It's about having the upper hand and trying to gain control You may not believe but i…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 07:16 PM
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Those romance novels are part of the problem. Every man who has tried to be that obsessed guy has gotten rejected. It turns women off and gives them the ick. Why? Because that man is overly invested before the woman is. On average men fall in love after 6 dates and for women its 11. That means for 6 dates a man has to hide it on average. Why? because women will think it is wierd that the man is over attached. It means that he has no other options, and puts her off. That romance obsession gives w…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 05:57 PM
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That is the point the OP is making, that men and women treat attention differently. The red pill teaches men that women tend to fall in love in time apart. When a woman is away from her man she will think about him, what he is up to, is he cheating on her, etc. Meanwhile a man who is always in her face comes across as needy, insecure, and needing a mommy. Yes it does differ from person to person, but the grand trend is that spending time away from a woman tends to be a good thing in regards to a…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 05:15 PM
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What is misogynistic about the red pill?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 04:44 PM
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There is 107 men to 100 women, so 7 men will die alone no matter what. 5.25% is not surprising since women rate 80% of men <5, as i am sure if you added up the rates of autism, body irregularities, down symdrome, and other ailments that make a man undateable it would be much higher than 5.25%. So 5.25% feels low.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 04:42 PM
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Simps do irreparable damage to women. They provide them with false validation, raise their expectations, teach them that they are hot shit for just existing. Simps are revolting and one of the largest issues in M/F dynamics. Weak men are worse than women. Women just take advantage of weak men because weak men allow it. Everyone will take what they are given for free, its human nature. Simps are a massive issue, and our woke virtue signalling culture breeds simps like rabbits fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 04:40 PM
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I would argue that the blue pill concepts that are true, are also red pill concepts. Because fundamentally the red pill consists of facts about the world we live in and the people in it. What is true in the blue pill is inherently true in the red pill. I disagree that there is only some truth to red pill concepts. By definition if a concept is not true it is not red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 11:53 PM
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Yes they do. They do so subconsciously in the reptilian part of the brain.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 10:55 PM
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Admittedly women like you are very rare. Also this is polarity. He is taking a feminine role and you are talking a masculine role here. It works because of the polarity.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 10:00 PM
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Those tendencies are gendered.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 09:47 PM
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and not really…. the reason why people align it with toxic masculinity is because redpill voices actively encourage toxic behavior correcting that for you - influencers encourage toxic behavior and voice red pill views. You are again associating the words of people that say red pill things with the red pill, which is exactly my point. Most arguments here against the red pill are based purely on argumentative fallacies. I agree those people are awful. I think Rollo is actually pretty smart, but h…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 08:48 PM
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You never hear the take the two are different because you come from the lens of people biased against the red pill. They use social manipulation to convince people of their view. Women are exceptionally good at social manipulation, and thus you see a lot of fallicious arguments about the red pill that cloud the truth. Women do not like the red pill because it raises data that sheds women in a bad light - so women attack it. It is very convenient for people who deny the red pill by using social m…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 08:08 PM
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The red pill merely describes female nature. It does not cast the behaviour as inferior. People do that. Also, one form of emotional intelligence which most people fail to learn is placing blame. The red pill invokes strong emotions in people, because some of the truths are difficult to hear. People hear this truth, feel uncomfortable, and blame the red pill for making them feel uncomfortable. Thus they demonize the red pill. This is an argumentative fallacy and people (esp women) need to be mor…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 07:58 PM
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without the manipulation and misogyny though This is true, but what does manipulation and misogyny have to do with the red pill? redpill influencer/teacher/guru goes on and on about the inferiority of women The people who teach red pill things also teach non red pill things. That does not make everything they say red pill. Alexander Grace is a great example.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 07:47 PM
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The red pill is about self improvement. Learning seduction is just one way the red pill advocates for self improvement, because being socially skilled with women is a valuable skill to learn. Its also only one small subset of the red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 07:37 PM
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So what you are saying is that your issue is entirely with shitty men that take advantage of women and not with the red pill at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 07:32 PM
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I do not disagree, how does that relate to the red pill?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 07:21 PM
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If you ever are curious - here is a good summary. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFaJ6AROXjQ Looks, status, game. Improve these three and you will succeed. Improve your physique and appearance. Improve your career and financial earning ability. Improve your social skills (from casual conversation to seduction). None of these are bad things, and this is what the red pill promotes. So its truly a shame when people come here shitting on the red pill because by doing so they hurt the people who nee…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 06:35 PM
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Yes, the red pill motto is basically be the best you can be so that you can achieve the outcomes you want in life. It can come across pessimistic because some of it relates to divorce statistics etc, and collides a bit with MGTOW in that regard. But the red pill is about self improvement and self improvement is an optimistic approach to life. If you think the red pill is not optimistic then you do not understand what the red pill even is.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 05:53 PM
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Most men who are successful with women are inherently red pilled. Every single guy who has gone to the gym is red pilled at least in that way. By definition if you have attracted a woman and kept her you have learned and implemented that part of the red pill. The oldest child in the house is not red pill. Thats someone elses words.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 05:29 PM
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I have spoken at length about a lot of red pill topics with men in my life that aren't red pilled. Any man who has ever interacted with a woman for a significant period of time or been in a relationship understands innately many red pill concepts especially around female behaviour and the expectations of men. So I think a lot less men that would consider themselves blue pilled are actually blue pilled. Just don't want to label themselves as red pilled or don't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 05:17 PM
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I have escaped the rat race :shrug:
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 05:10 PM
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I did not really intend to say they are virgins because they are pessimistic. But they are pessimistic and are virgins at 2x the rate. I clarified after Id wager black pillers identified as such don't have many options because they learned the hard way how important looks are, and the fact that they are virgins at 2x the rate proves credence to the black pill as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 04:54 PM
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Yep, which means if you are black pilled you likely learned the hard way how important looks are. And you are more likely to be a virgin because you aren't attractive. You missed blue+purple. The hard #'s are not really relevant though. Its a small sample size and we would need to take into account the ratio of blue to reds to compare them. They look relatively equal when you account for r+p and b+p
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 04:52 PM
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So we see that the most virgins are those who are pessimistic (black pillers), and we see a relatively even distribution between blue/purple and red/purple. Which is about half the rate of black. Since both blue and red are optimistic pills, we conclude that if you are pessimistic you are 2x more likely to be a virgin if you are black pilled Id wager black pillers identified as such don't have many options because they learned the hard way how important looks are, and the fact that they are virg…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 04:39 PM
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So its just a small sample size and we cannot get data on it. That is fair I do find it funny that there are almost no blue pilled men. Because I can talk to my dad about red pill topics and he can always phrase red pill theories in his own words without me giving any hints. He learned it the hard way over his 65 years of being a male and interacting with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 04:33 PM
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In the data they can filter out women, because they showed graphs filtering out men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 04:30 PM
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I would love to see the breakdown of virgin by pill type. I would wager that there are more relative blue pilled virgins than red pilled ones. I see time and time again from posters here that these blue pilled idiots get red pilled, and then get laid because shocker - the red pill accurately depicts attraction and how to become attractive to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 04:24 PM
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In my experience women get really frustrated at the topic of finances. Because lives were easy for them they are less likely to go through the paces to become financially literate. They much prefer just going to a money manager and having them deal with it. So while they are able, they typically don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 04:20 PM
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They are red pilled. Most of these dudes follow the red pill to a T they just learned it through other ways (father, brothers, friends, observation).
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 03:45 PM
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Every woman I have met has wanted the spark. Being good at seduction generates that spark. Once I learned seduction, I found women were incredibly receptive and felt like I just understood what they wanted. Seduction is not a bad thing. Its a good thing. Men are the romantic ones in a relationship and men who are bad at being romantic is worse for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 03:36 PM
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Women expect pick up artist levels of seduction. I remember i dated a girl, and I used the escalation ladder at even a slightly delayed pace, and she still told me I went too slow. That means the men she was meeting before me were doing the escalation ladder on hyperspeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 12:31 AM
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Unfortunately because a large portion of women have been alpha widowed, a good man must learn seduction as good as a sexual predator to save one good woman from said predators. edit: I disagree with abhorrent. I think PUA tactics pull a lot from the red pill, but the red pill isn't inherently abhorrent. The read pill teaches all truths in life, like how attaction works. Its up to the man and his values to use that knowledge how he sees fit.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 12:12 AM
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You asked for confirmation bias and pseudo science.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 11:59 PM
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No I said in my experience the red pill accurately described female behaviour in all cases
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 11:45 PM
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I think that a lot of men are indirectly red pilled, either through teachings by their father or by life experience. They are not formally red pillers but they understand it enough and act on it. For instance every man who hits the gym and get fit follows the red pill at least in that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 11:33 PM
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Different traits have different values in dif contexts. For instance looks are more important for LTRs than short term for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 11:25 PM
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In my experience the red pill accurately described female behaviour in all cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 11:24 PM
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Looks are a bigger deal for LTR's, and women tend to not want those until later. So are more forgiving when they are younger. They also haven't learned their value yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 11:22 PM
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the red pill wins again. congrats dude!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 11:21 PM
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i remember when I got pilled I had 8 dates scheduled within two weeks of changing my photos. Getting women was easy. Get out of here with your no experience bs. Of course he gets women, he had 10 million dollars in cars in his drive way.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 11:15 PM
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lol he literally has a harem.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 11:11 PM
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My experience dating women after becoming red pilled is that the red pill is factual. It accurately describes female behavior and male/female dynamics. I tested many theories against the women I was dating and came to the conclusion that it is facts.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 11:10 PM
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Its red pill, just not complete. Its forgetting the part where if you succeed at your mission you can escape the rat race.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 08:52 PM
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Mate selection studies show women treat looks as a dealbreaker. A direct quote is that there exists a looks threshhold that must be crossed before a woman will consider any other attribute in the male partner. This is even more important for LTR than short term relationships. The data doesn't like. The person you spoke to was virtue signalling to appear like she was a better person than she actually was. She gaslight you into believing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 08:44 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOA43CzHfgA If you don't settle you will get used and discarded.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 08:29 PM
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Why are you no pill? This is like peak red pill. Literally unplugging yourself from the matrix.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 08:27 PM
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She misled him therefore it was baby trapping. She then manipulated herself out of the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 07:10 PM
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Common knowledge here is not relevant. They were not planning on having a child nor was it discussed. Of course sex can lead to pregnancy alas we are not arguing that sex leads to pregnancy. Her actions and demeanour towards this man showed me that her intention was to get pregnant the entire time. So while he thought it was casual sex, she saw it as a paycheck.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 06:37 PM
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And she knew full well it was just casual sex. Ignorance is not an excuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 06:33 PM
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She had baby fever. Slept with an old friend after we broke up, who I recall her speaking highly of. Still had a ok relationship with her after. Well she basically manipulated and emotionally abused the guy once she got pregnant, forced him out of the relationship. Then went to all her friends to get validation that she should be a single mom. Basically when she didn't get what she wanted from me and I rejected her, she went straight to the next unforunate guy and is gonna collect child support …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 06:29 PM
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No thats not an apt analogy. One piece of life advice to stay alive, drinking water, does not equate to the life advance of self improvement. You are trying to equate drinking water with fundamentally changing your habits, mindset, and belief system, which is ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 05:58 PM
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But that advice is literally the foundation of the red pill... So you are saying you promote the foundational aspects of the red pill, but don't like labelling yourself as supporting the red pill because of the connotation?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 05:52 PM
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Because women care about status. They would rather rise up to the status of the higher man, and take part in his lifestyle than lower their status to be with the lesser man. They would rather share and be above than be below and have a low value man to themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 05:44 PM
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My ex baby trapped the guy after me. It was savage. Very lucky to have gotten out of that one.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 05:43 PM
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But we aren't arguing if TRP has author rights. Where the idea came from is not relevant. This is you attempting to discredit what he said with something that though is true (debatable - because blue pill advice often conflicts with it and the blue pill is generally common sense) is not relevant to the discussion at hand. So you have changed the argument to appear like you won the original argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 05:41 PM
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And how is that relevant to the fact that the advice is still red pill?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 05:33 PM
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Being common sense does not invalidate the argument it is part of the red pill. In set theory, you could say that there is a venn diagram consisting of values. These values all fit into the red pill sphere. Which also intersects with common sense. Its still red pill if its common sense. They aren't mutually exclusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 05:32 PM
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Womens brains release dopamine when they speak, much more so than men. So they literally get drugged up when you let them talk. You need to really understand how conversations work however, and you need to understand how to lead conversations. A skilled conversationalist can weave and wind conversations into a very fluid and fun experience. They can also guide conversations to the outcomes they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 04:05 PM
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Id wager this sub has a higher rate of sex. Because if you follow the red pill and aren't super ugly you will be attractive to women and sex will come easily
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 04:03 PM
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Vulnerability causes women to feel disgusted. Its never a good idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 04:00 PM
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I am not removing accountability from men. I am saying that there are shitty men, acknowledging that they exist. And I acknowledge that they harass promiscuously dressed women. Why? because those women appeal to those men. Yes the men are at fault, but you can't walk into the street, get hit by a car, then claim you didn't know that cars drove on the street. Shitty men harass women and treat them like sex objects. Women dress like sex objects then are suprised that they are treated like sex obje…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 03:29 PM
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Changing the topic is an argumentative fallacy. Basically, you changed the argument to appear like you won the original argument. I have no interest in talking about other topics.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 07:38 PM
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The why is evolutionary biology. I am programmed to feel this way in my DNA.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 07:22 PM
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Thats a different argument entirely. We are not talking about men getting women into bed. Attracting shitty men by dressing slutty is just a fact of life. A man who has limited control of his actions, has no consideration for other people, ie a shitty man will act on a woman dressing too slutty. The women choose to dress slutty and then try to cry wolf that they attract the men who like when women dress slutty. We live in a society and our society realities. Such as the reality that shitty men e…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 07:19 PM
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What I said was the reason I am only attracted to one gender. It is entirely relevant to the discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 07:06 PM
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Probably because i called out your social manipulation you are now trying to insinuate what I said is not clear. Now you are feigning ignorance or naivety to avoid accountability or insinuate what I said is gibberish.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 07:04 PM
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It is not equally easy for men and women to find sex. It is much harder for men until a point where it flips, most men do not fall in the second category. This also is not the topic at hand. When women feel safe to be themselves (where it is socially acceptable to show this part of themselves because the 'tribe' of women are doing it) they show how they truly feel without virtue signalling. They are just as shallow and looks based as men (they actually value looks MORE for LTRs). Look and listen…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 06:57 PM
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And that is when women get off chad dick, lower their standards, and settle with beta bob. The men in their 20's who weren't chad and were beta bob have to wait for a decade and a half.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 06:39 PM
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This is well studied from other lenses as well. Basically this is value signalling (not virtue). When a woman is approached by a less attractive man that indirectly means that the man considers himself in her league. She will be cruel to him to the other women around him to 1) Reduce his status 2) validate her own status by receiving support from other women and men. Basically - they shame ugly men for being ugly and then get other people to tell them that is OK. Women care A LOT about their sta…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 06:38 PM
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It doesn't make a difference so my preference is irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 06:31 PM
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Do you know how much sex a male stripper gets? Yes if a man dresses as a prostitute he gets a lot of attention. Just go look at cougar videos with male strippers. They go absolutely wild for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 05:57 PM
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Thats cool and all. However your experience is not the norm and the data shows that. Your experience is not applicable to the general population and therefore you are using an exception makes the rule fallacy. Personal anecdotes need to be treated as anecdotes. Also partnered != with child so you just discarded half your argument and then tried to gain ground with an argumentative fallacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 05:42 PM
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If you dress like a prostitute you will be treated like a prostitute. You are what you attract. The list can go on. In my experience people who talk about how women dress do so in a way that tells the truth of the situation and our society. Shitty men will see a provocatively dressed woman and think she is low value, because she is sexualizing herself like a prostitute does. She has presented herself as a sex object so is treated like one. Women get offended at hearing these facts because it bri…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 05:38 PM
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Because i have physical revulsion to the idea of sleeping with other men. Most men find it disgusting. White knights and simps fight for lgbtq rights. Most men either don't care or are downright disgusted and don't say anything. This is my experience talking to hundreds of more authentic men. I'm totally ok with two women though. Its a double standard but I can't change how I feel about it. I just think of the man as less for being with other men. Like he gave up appealing to womens high standar…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 05:25 PM
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Going to be a lot of very depressed and regretful women over the next decade or two. The data is actually heartbreaking. Our society is basically fucked.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 05:22 PM
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I became chad and I got 'you're a real fucking man', 'you're so handsome'. If your ego is not being fed you just don't do it for her. Look at how she behaves not what she says. If she isn't giving you praise for just existing and being part of her life you really aint it for her Same thing if she doesn't show interest, doesn't want to fuck the daylights out of you, doesn't want to do things for you, doesn't respond right away to messages, doesn't adjust her life to fit yours, doesn't compromise …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 05:04 PM
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Every woman is a pick me by that definition, because of how women compete intrasexually (a la mean girls).
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 05:03 PM
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50% of women over 30 do not have children. You and your friends are a minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 05:01 PM
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Do you make fun of gamers? I find it really ironic because I have heard girls say they will never date a gamer but they go and sit on the tele for an entire weekend or even year or two of their life.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 04:50 PM
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Thats why the red pill teaches men how to be romantic, how to seduce, how to pleasure.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 02:30 PM
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We aren't talking about sex being the goal. We are talking about how women compete against each other. Intra-sexual means between members of the gender, it's not about sex at all. Do you understand? Your response seems to indicate that you do not even know what intrasexual competition is yet are trying to dispute it?!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 05:54 PM
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I don't know why you are writing a paragraph instead of reading the literature on female intrasexual competition.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 04:12 PM
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Women competing for mates in this way is well studied in psychology. Your opinion isn't really valid here.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 03:51 PM
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They are ignored by everyone in the dating scene, not just beautiful people. Because they are not attractive they do not get to experience love. It also affects them greatly in all areas of their lives, from interactions with every day people to job opportunities.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 10:39 PM
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Learn how women compete intrasexually. Lots of psychology studies on it. That explains "mean girls". It also explains natural female behavior
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 10:32 PM
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Her feelings will discredit it and she will continue to live in delusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 10:26 PM
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wasnt talking about cheating. Was talking about relationships lasting longer.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 10:07 PM
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I wasn't talking about cheating. I was talking about succesful relationships. It is true that associative matching does lead to longer relationships. ITs been proven in studies. You don't need to have an opinion of it. I wanted to caution against using that as an argument against things like hypergamy, because its more complicated than that. Both parties are at least content so it works out more often. Also women are usually odler in associative relationships so have been humbled.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 10:06 PM
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This is called he hypergamy and associative mating cycle. Women are hypergamous so seek the best mate. When their environment fails to appeal to their hypergamy they will settle for equivalent, but not less. Such as when they get rejected by higher value men, and lower their standards. Couples end up relatively equal, but that doesn't represent the whole dating market or dating as a whole. Because more people couple that fail relationships than succesful ones who stay together. Its a survivorshi…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 10:03 PM
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I've been in engaging with red pill arguments and rhetoric for the last ten years Can you explain to me the core principles of the red pill? How long you have been arguing it is not relevant. It is cultural perception and judgement in court based of threat to society. Yes, cultural perception and judgement. Which protects women from harsher sentences. By definition women are a protected class at least in this way. It doesn't matter if its cultural perception and cultural judgement of women. They…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 09:31 PM
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Those are because women commit less crimes There is no reason that women should get a more lenient sentence because they commit less crimes. More social manipulation - more redpill fuel. 😂 sorry. Hopefully one day you realize. Why hopefully? You do not understand what the red pill is to even make such a judgement.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 09:22 PM
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How can you argue they are not a protected class? There is actual data that shows that they are. Not opinion based at all in any way. They get more lenient sentences for crimes, they are allowed to have less self control, testosterone makes men want to protect them, they have a social movement which can deflect any and all criticism, they are very socially skilled and aware and are good at getting what they want. Sexism is far less protected compared to racism and homophobia and that's why thing…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 09:07 PM
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33 - 30. Women older than 30 are too baby crazed. They lost their 20s wasting them on shitty men and aren't worth my time. They tend to have a lot more baggage and I can't be bothered. Add to my life or gtfo. Basically the opposite of preselection. If dating in your 20s didn't work as a woman the problem is you. After being red pilled I knew why dating in my 20s was hard, so I have different standards for men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 08:44 PM
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Women are a protected class, and any criticism of female behavior is often repelled on the basis that they weren't privileged in the past, or that the criticism is mysogynist because it highlights a difference between men and women and men and women are supposed to be equals. Basically, women have gaslight society and weak men into believing that women are beyond reproach. Thus the only place you see discussion of negative female behavior is in mens spaces (hence the red pill, which discusses fa…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 08:41 PM
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But then they go and try to shit on the red pill and label it as some mysognyst fest that is pessimistic and cynical. When in fact the red pill is about being the best you can be, and has a positive look on your outcomes if you put in the work. They basically confuse toxic masculinity and mysogynist people with the red pill and red pillers. They confuse the pessimism and cynicism of the black pill with the red pill. Any blue piller who says be the best you can be is saying follow the red pill, b…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 08:27 PM
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Once you become red pilled you wake up to the world. It quite literally is a higher level of perception. You start interacting with women and see that a lot of what goes on in their mind is not based in logic or facts. Its how they feel in the moment. They are relentless and uncaring and unapologetic for their feelings in the moment. The only regret them later. Unfortunately our society is so against limiting what women can say and holding them accountable, so these women learn that it is ok. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 08:23 PM
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What it says is no matter what, he's making way too much over basically nothing This is the equivalent of saying sexual harassment is not a big deal if there is no unwarranted touching. We are not arguing the extent of the infraction here. By definition the infraction has occurred. It is still taking advantage of the man whether its $1, $10, or $100,000. The crime of theft is still theft whether its $1, $10, or $100,000. There may be a harsher sentence, but its still a crime. The man is offering…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 08:12 PM
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We are talking about wasting time here. If she was scoping him out that is by definition not wasting time This is the case where the woman already has a boyfriend. Or has no interest. ie wasting time case. You seriously think its OK for a woman with a boyfriend to accept a drink from another man? Jesus christ you are weak AF.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 06:33 PM
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Thats because you are a simp and you think women deserve free drinks for existing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 06:32 PM
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It being conditional does not change what it says. That makes no sense. Because if it is the case, its not a lot. So you are saying if this does happen, its not a big deal because the dollar value is not a lot. So what you are saying is that it is more acceptable to do this because its not a lot of money. Which indirectly states you think its okay to take advantage of men (as long as its a small amount). Conditionally it is never OK. Any woman who accepts a drink in this circumstance is taking a…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 06:29 PM
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Psychologists have found that men compete more directly - either through their ability to gather resources, in sport, through war, an arm wrestle, etc. Women compete more indirectly. They try to appear better than others. Its one reason why they virtue signal, its one why they try to pretty themselves, its on reason why they seek high value partners. Many other ways women compete indirectly. Men do this to, but to a lesser extent. They aren't normally interested in competing with women in indire…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 05:08 PM
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So you are saying its okay to use and manipulate men into buying you something if the value of that is low?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 03:16 PM
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No, this is driven by intrasexual competition in women. Please educate yourself on female intrasexual competition before we get into this again. You naive nature is exhausting.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 03:16 PM
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I did have a very hard time with women. I was the fat kid growing up. It made me learn how hard life is at a young age and that set me up for success though. I wouldn't trade it for anything given my current life. It was hard though. And I know other men here are in similar boats, so I like to spend my time teaching them how the world actually works and raise them up. What are you trying to accomplish here?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 03:14 PM
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So you are saying that its okay to use men and manipulate them if the outcome is that it doesn't cost them a lot of money?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 03:12 PM
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Why do you feel that the dollar value matters?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 11:10 PM
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As if they're entitled to free drinks at a bar just for having a pair of tits LOL.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 11:07 PM
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Are you even aware of who Brene Brown is?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 10:54 PM
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Because women are not stupid and know that buying a drink is showing interest. She is a bad person for accepting the drink. This leads him on and takes advantage of him. A higher quality woman would politely decline and buy her own drink if she had a boyfriend. We are talking about wasting time here. If she was scoping him out that is by definition not wasting time. It is a different argument entirely if she was interested in the beginning and changed her mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 10:35 PM
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Its obviously a fairly shitty thing to do to someone. Such as your comment. Even validating you with a response is not worth...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 10:03 PM
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Its not that we think its low effort. Its because we know deep down that women choose to wear make up. Psychology studies on intra sexual competition in women prove that it is women driving this. Men honestly do not care about your make up.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 09:47 PM
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She either wasted your time for validation, or you failed to make a connection so she let you down easy. You mentioned action things. How about body language? Thats probably the best indicator of actual interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 09:27 PM
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Women choose first, men choose to stick around. What happens is that women get an over abundance of options. Think they are the shit. Never work on themselves. Then find themselves repeatedly single because no man with a 10 foot pole wants to have anything to do with her. They hit it and quit it, or they reject her. Women never seem to understand this dynamic. That although they have choice - they are completely powerless later down the line. So they too must be good enough to hold on to. They d…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 09:21 PM
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It is perfectly reasonable to respond to a comment in a thread about something that was said in that comment. Why are you trying to gatekeep what the comment section in a reddit thread is for?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 09:07 PM
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I never responded to OP. I responded to a comment about the contents of that comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 09:03 PM
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You are the only one who is talking about fiction. I haven't mentioned the thread in the OP at all. Nor was my comment about it at all. Can you elaborate on where you think I am speaking fiction. Or was your comment about TRP and PPD men not about me?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 08:51 PM
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I think she is just projecting her insecurity around having really high standards and being unable to find the man she thinks she deserves.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 08:35 PM
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Where is this assumption coming from? https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Frobcb3ggida81.jpg This is published in the book dataclysm: who we are (when no one is looking). Written by the former CEO of OK Cupid. From what I see men show interest in women linearly according to their attractiveness percentile. Showing a pretty even distribution as women become more attractive. With the exception that men always shoot their shot at more attractive women. Meanwhile - women only s…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 08:03 PM
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In my experience women want to be treated like women. Even the feminist types. They don't know what they want. Ass slapping, bit of teasing, push pull, a bit of dominance, controlling the frame, being a leader. Its what they want. imo this has been double true for feminists in my life. As soon as they come home they're tired of being a man and they want me to play that role. Every man who has dated a woman has run into the where to go for dinner dilemma. They don't want to choose. They want to p…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 07:59 PM
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I got friendzoned by a few women that were in my life for about 18 years before my glow up. It was my experience that as soon as I had the golden career, and got physically attractive that all three of them showed interest in me. One, who had two children. Invited me to her parents place and we played board games. We walked around the community with her two kids and she talked about all the issues she had with her husband. That she was thinking of divorcing him. And that she should have taken mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 07:13 PM
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They friendzoned them and then got bitter when they were wrong in judging who will succeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 05:57 PM
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Im talking about back straight. No hunched shoulders. Ability to make eye contact. Once you learn body langage - you start to see how people estimate themselves against you. When you lock eyes with another man for instance, the weaker man will look away. When you are walking down the street, the weaker people will move out of your way. Once you learn to look confident and walk confident people literally just move out of your way. Women are very very perceptive and see how you walk, see how you s…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 04:52 PM
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Young people are having less sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 03:57 PM
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They work great if you learn how to compete.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 03:53 PM
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Absolutely For instance slut shaming. Our society needs it, but its not PC to slut shame.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 03:52 PM
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What is it that you do not like about it. Its by far the most prolific program and his book is a very very good addition to the program.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 03:10 PM
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All I have is her book Here’s the painful pattern that emerged from my research with men: We ask them to be vulnerable, we beg them to let us in, and we plead with them to tell us when they’re afraid, but the truth is that most women can’t stomach it. In those moments when real vulnerability happens in men, most of us recoil with fear and that fear manifests as everything from disappointment to disgust. And men are very smart. They know the risks, and they see the look in our eyes when we’re thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 03:02 PM
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That is what the red pill is. Teaching men how to be the best they can be in all areas of life, and why it matters. Namely - to live a fulfilling life. There is a reason it works and people advocate it. Women want good men, the red pill teaches men how to be good men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 04:21 AM
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Can you explain to why you think either a) I am a man whore who just spreads my seed or b) red pillers are man whores who just spread their seeds. Its not clear to me because I am not a man whore and the red pill does not teach men to behave like that. Also why do you think red pilled men use women for sex? The red pill teaches men how to be the best they can be in all areas of life. Sure it, it does teach seduction much like it teaches a great many things. But even then it has been my experienc…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 03:28 AM
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Yep she is naive and clueless.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 11:19 PM
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Sarcasm is not appropriate for written communication. It requires body language and tonality to come across appropriately. Alas, not the discussion at hand Appearance matters, please do not virtue signal here. No one is judging you. This is published in the book who we are when no one is looking, and shows that men show interest in women linearly according to their attractiveness percentile - and women show interest in men only once they meet a particular threshhold. This is proven in in person …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 11:14 PM
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On a side note: its peak irony that you come here arguing against the red pill when you married the exact type of man the red pill teaches men to become. The lack of self awareness here is baffling to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 10:36 PM
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I agree it doesn't originate with the red pill. Its still a core pillar of the red pill. Why is it so hard for you to concede that you promote this part of the red pill? You seem to have some irrational inability to do so. For reference, conceding one part does not mean you agree to the whole. I'm not trying to coax you into being a red piller here... Men who weight lift are more attractive to women than men who are scrawny. Are you going to tell people that they shouldn't lift weights? But what…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 10:09 PM
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How about you stop making assumptions about me thanks. Not lonely, have a wonderful partner. Secondly, your software engineer husband is probably red pilled. As are most tech workers these days. He just wont admit it to you. Either way, he follows red pill principles. So even if he never formally consumed it he still is red pilled as evidenced that he has focused on an incredible career, focused on his appearance to be the most attractive he can, and found a naive blue pilled woman to saddle wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 09:47 PM
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Brene brown is the leading researcher on vulnerability. She found experimentally that women feel disgust when men are vulnerable. you should read it before arguing further. We ask men to be vulnerable, we beg them to let us in, and we plead with them to tell us when they’re afraid, but the truth is that most women can’t stomach it. In these moments when real vulnerability happens in men, most of us recoil with fear and that fear manifests as everything from disappointment to disgust. And men are…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 09:30 PM
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Brene brown is the leading researcher on this topic. She found experimentally that women feel disgust when men are vulnerable /thread
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 09:29 PM
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I agree its not complicated when you know which qualities to look for. The thing is younger women are naive and do not know which qualities to look for. They must look to their parents or online resources in todays age. Some may - but this an exception makes the rule fallacy and has no bearing on the argument. This is not the discussion at hand though. So its moot. We also aren't talking about the most cost effective strategy. We are talking about the general strategy young women employ. Which i…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 08:28 PM
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You say that assuming it matters that it was a concept before the red pill? This is not the discussion at hand. The fact is that it is a red pill concept, and you support it as an apparently blue pilled woman. So you are by definition red pilled in this way and say things that support this part of the red pill. This is irrefutable. Take accountability - or do what the red pill says and don't. Plently of youtube videos explain the psychology of why you cannot take accountability here as a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 08:18 PM
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In what world do you think it is appropriate to call exercise 'addictive behavior'? In fact starting strength is fairly moderate, its 3x5 3 times a week. ~2 hours a week. Hardly addictive? The delusion! Also it works and is what women are looking for. So gtfo with this virtue signalling bs.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 08:02 PM
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Younger women are less likely to know their value. Women who are relationship oriented have to take risks on who they date in their teens and twenties. They try to select the men with the best chances. She just picked right. So because they dont know their value, they don't know what they can get, and because they dont know who is going to succeed, they have to make a very difficult choice on who will. Its all part of the game. Other women just sleep around in their 20s and pick a winner in thei…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 07:53 PM
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Are you fit and muscular? Tech worker - similar position. worked in faang during my 20s. good in the markets. Ghosted for 4 years. Got fit and muscular - 8 dates 1 week after updating my photos. Multiple sexual experiences in the first month. Basically coffee -> bedroom. Just get over your inhibitions to getting muscular, pick up starting strength book and a squat rack and get it done. Or die alone. Feel free to dm me. Women are attracted to muscles dude, so get muscles. Dont be gaslight by the …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 07:47 PM
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Red pill concept. Preselection. She wasn't attracted to you before another woman was interested in you. Once another woman was, her brain tells her that there must be more to you that she missed or didn't get to experience. Now her anxiety is making her regret friend zoning you. I had a few 'friends' invite me on 'lets hang out together' solo 1:1s after my glow up. These women had bfs. I tested red pill theories on them like being vulnerable and they left my life though.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 07:45 PM
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As opposed to being chivalrous strong charismatic confident leader who guides the realtionship, pays for everything, chooses where to go for dinner, is romantic, highly good in the sack, emotionally completely stable rock who is also tall and very attractive fit and muscular and has a great career. the bar for women is low. You cannot complain if you don't meet it. Men just ask that you have sex with them relatively often, get them a drink or meet their needs every now and again. It shows you ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 07:37 PM
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This is personal experience. The men you know just suck at seduction and they don't know how to touch, where to touch, what to say, how to perform. These women just have experience with men who suck at pleasuring a woman so value it less and see it as a chore. Seduction starts the moment after you have sex. My experience with women is when I learned how to push all of their buttons in the right way they want it all the damn time. Why? because I am very skilled in the bedroom and she always comes…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 04:53 PM
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We aren't talking about looks, we are talking about social proof, pre selection, and providing. Please do not change the topic about looks, that's an argumentative fallacy and not relevant to this discussion. Looks being common sense does not relate to pre-selection and social proof being common sense. Lets have a rational discussion here. The fact is that you actively stated the red pill topics of pre selection and social proof is important when attracting women. Which is a big core tenant of t…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 11:08 PM
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That doesn't invalidate the findings. You didn't even reference anything...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 11:02 PM
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https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/0162309595001042 We argue that females switch between homogamy and hypergamy and vice versa, depending on the particular social circumstance. Homogamy is assortative mating. Another term for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 10:59 PM
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No, the research shows that women switch between assortative mating and hypergamy based of personal circumstance. The hypergamy is always there, they just don't always get to exercise their hypergamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 10:42 PM
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Ignoring any glaring issues in appearance, have you considered learning more about body language? I left it out because I hadn't considered it but it will have a huge influence on how people perceive you. Have you learned how to appear confident? mirroring? etc. Also reading body language, like knowing open vs closed, signals of attraction and ioi's from body language, the whol schtick. Its a rabbit hole it and of itself. Then there is how to connect with people which goes hand in hand with body…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 10:32 PM
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Hypergamy is just one concept in the red pill. Male and female mate selection is one of the most well studied topics in psychology. There are dozens of studies which demonstrably prove hypergamy exists and is a large driver of womens mating strategy. This part of the red pill is NOT nonsense. Can you elaborate on the specific concepts in the red pill that you think is nonsense? I would be happy to explain them to you and provide references where relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 10:22 PM
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Our HR lead is a woman. She broke the touch barrier with me in the elevator. What is sexual harassment again?! Didn't bother me. But I sure did chuckle when I did that sexual harassment training a few days later...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 10:16 PM
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I was a tech worker, so had a bit of flub. Never that overweight but it basically meant 0 interest from women and body language signs of disgust until my glow up. I can't say if it was one thing. Basically I was ghosted on apps for 4 years and did it all at once. Updated my photos and had 8 dates scheduled in the first week. But I got fit and muscular through starting strength. Learned everything about hair, products, and styles. Good barber. Got a bunch of seasonally appropriate clothes from hi…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 09:57 PM
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Most men aren't black and red pilled, so never get to see true lust and desire from women. I became chad so I saw it from both sides. My experience was that I got invited to the bedroom after a coffee.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 09:37 PM
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Women have a higher libido than men do... have you actually looked at studies?!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 09:07 PM
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Find your ugly duckling. Best advice I ever heard. You are at a prime age to find women who are insecure about their attractiveness and have not yet had their glow up. Many girls end up this way out of high school just for not being popular.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 08:15 PM
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Women have a higher libido then men do... this has been proven. They just make it seem like men are the ones who want sex so that they can control men and control access to sex. You are just gaslight - unplug yourself lmfao.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 08:00 PM
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Weak and insecure mae compete against their fellow men. Good men raise other men up. I am a good man so I spend my time here raising other men up. Despite already becoming chad and finding a wonderful partner I spend some time and energy here.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 07:41 PM
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"HEY BABE, CAN YOU SHOW ME HOW WEAK YOU REALLY ARE PLEASE?" Brene brown studied vulnerability extensively. She found that women feel disgust when men are vulnerable.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 05:17 PM
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these things are already happening. Regarding sitting back and relaxing - thats the MGTOW movement. Men like to accept the red pill, embody the red pill, all the whilst complaining that they have to be some giga chad who makes bank to even attract an average woman. Then they see massive results, get a good partner, and exit the dating market as quickly as they entered. Or they give up. Personally I see those men as weak, but most men I know would do that. Meanwhile those bitter women still cant …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 04:58 PM
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But they are also disadvantaged because they need to overcome societal norms and pressures that actively harm how attractive they are to the other gender. They have to un-gaslight themselves. Which is difficult because western culture is relentless in squashing non conformity.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 04:15 PM
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Except the red pill works... I learned it. I found experimentally that it accurately depicts male and female behavior. It accurately depicts male and female attraction. It accurately depicts the world we live in. So for all the 'echo chamber' I went out of my way to validate the truth to it through the women I dated. And boy was I validated... There may be a gender war, but that does not make things like the red pill wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 04:05 PM
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Can you provide examples? Also does it even matter if the people are neutral or not? Thats literally what I said - the red pill is neutral. People are not. This is people saying these things. That doesn't make the red pill negative against women. It merely states how women and men behave as proven through evolutionary biology and psychology. People wrote all of those things. From the side bar, to comments here. People who have likely had a hard time attracting women so are rightfully frustrated …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 04:04 PM
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You are right I incorrectly assumed. Exception does not make the rule fallacy. I'm very happy for you though How old are you though? How old is she? One of the red pill concepts is to lock down a keeper early, before they learn their value. Lots of women don't get the opportunity to learn just how valuable they are. Either they never put themselves out there or their parents never taught them. So you absolutely can find attractive women who are not entitled. They just become more and more rare a…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 03:58 PM
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Well off, financially succesful, business owner here. I won't date a woman with more than ~3-5 partners. I will laugh an OF model out of the room. Selling your body for money is the oldest profession. Anyone can do it. It shows that you have nothing else to provide society other than your body. It is quite honestly disgusting. Its a profession that takes advantage of weak men, and someone who does that is equally as disgusting as those men. It shows the models character, she uses men as tools. O…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 03:49 PM
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I don't think anyone will disagree with you. The materialistic culture of the US is vain and vapid. You didn't need money, but the women you dated were also naive and less educated. The fact is that you had a much easier time appealing to your loving partners hypergamy. The fact is that in the west the women were raised in middle class households and so they expect a middle class way of life. Which is being more and more difficult to uphold and is very difficult for a man in his 20s. You are bas…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 03:46 PM
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This stuff does help. I did all of these things and then had a ton of attention from women. It really does work. Careers aren't for filling a void, its to show women that you have enough resources to raise children. This causes a lot of attraction. Hobbies aren't for filling a void, its to gain a social circle and show a woman that you have purpose and fill your time with things that improve your life. Having hobbies is also about spending time apart, because women fall in love in the time apart…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 03:13 PM
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Starting a fight in a bar is not being a Karen. I also don't think the inebriated population is a particularly good representation. Considering men often drink more and to excess. There may be more disruptive drunk men than disruptive drunk women, but there are certainly more entitled female karens then entitled men out in the world. Because men learn at a very young age that no one gives a fuck about them, and no one will cater to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 03:09 PM
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Women are picky. Every woman I have dated has said they are picky. How is stating that women are picky a negative? You are projecting feeling attacked by men calling women picky because you are picky yourself. So you see it as a negative, when its just a fact. Men also speak using direct language, especially in written form - something more teachers should understand. Men and women communicate differently - so mens communication often comes across as harsh to women. The red pill merely says what…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 03:01 PM
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This is a red pill concept. Men are islands and woman are boats. If you want a woman to stay at your island, you need to make it good enough to attract them and keep them there. Hence be the best you can be, build your castle, build a large social following. If your island sucks, then do not be surprised when boats do not want to stay. Also you are talking about social proof and pre selection. More red pill concepts. This comes down to women expecting men to take them on roller coasters. Be the …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 02:50 AM
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What about the red pill views women choosing men as negative? In fact the red pill states that women choose men first, then men choose to stick around. The red pill does not place views like this. It states how it works and doesn't have an opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 10:44 PM
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Its not weaponizing victimhood, its bringing awareness to the harsh realities of the world we live in. Remember that when you read text in this format you project your own opinions and feelings into the words of others. You put an exclamation mark on privileged! for instance - because you see it like an attack on women and assume its outrageous and uncalled for. But the fact is a lot of what is discussed here is just cold hard facts. People who are unwilling to accept those facts take it as vict…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 10:31 PM
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Those are not red pill ideas. Those are people who sometimes say red pill things spouting misogynistic ideas to appeal to a certain demographic.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 09:51 PM
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Personal question - I am just curious as to why you are no pill. Your comment is very red pill. Here are the facts, this is the study, this is how attraction works.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 04:26 PM
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No, he is what dumb people incorrectly take as red pill. The red pill opens your eyes to human behaviour. By learning how it really works at a macro level. It brings you to a higher state of perception of the world around you. You are better able to interact with the world and people around you. Because you understand how people work, you understand what is expected of you as a man in this society. It leads you to success in your endeavours. Why? It teaches you how to be attractive to the opposi…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 06:20 AM
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yep, people here are ignorant as fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 12:59 AM
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The tate isn't red pill. Why do people not understand this?! Andrew tate says a few red pill things. That does not mean everything he says is red pill. The red pill is about self improvement, being the best you can be, learning how people work at a psychological level (both men and women), learning how the world works at a fundamental level. This is so as a man you can go through life informed and be the best person you can be. It gives you the highest chance of success. Any rational person who …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 12:54 AM
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Depends on what you define as red pill. IF its the defacto definition - self imrpovement, learn about how the world works including attraction, seduction, female and male psychology then yes. THat man understands what is expected of him and knows what my daughter would need from him. He's taken the red pill and can make informed decisions. This man will be the best he can be and I can trust that. If your definition of the red pill is some trad con toxic masculinity shit, ofc not.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 12:53 AM
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getting pilled changed my life as a former 30 year old virgin. I learned the red pill, implemented it in my life, and saw huge results. After getting fit and muscular I went from getting ghosted for 4 years on dating apps to having 8 dates scheduled within a week of updating my photos. Multiple sexual experiences within a month. It really does work. Don't listen to the blue pilled idiot, they're naive and haven't learned how fake the world is (including attraction).
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 05:01 PM
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From my experience you can be vulnerable from a source of strength. Like: 'I went through x y and z as a kid and it really put life into perspective for me, although it was hard when I was younger I am grateful for having gone through x y and z. Its made me a stronger person and allowed me to grow in ways that others could not until they were much older' vs 'I had such a hard childhood, because of x,y,z I never succeeded in life. every day is struggle because im haunted by x y and z. Sometimes i…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 04:53 PM
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Do you question the vulnerability thing? Brene brown is the leading psychologist on vulnerability and she found experimentally that women feel disgust when men are vulnerable. It effectively gives them the ick. Shes a widely accepted author and her conclusions on male vulnerability are quite controversial because feminist culture says 'BE VULNERABLE'. That just makes unattractive men. To answer your question - just life things. I would listen to this persons issues, so as per normal conversation…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 10:49 PM
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YUP. women are shallow as fuck you cant blame them though. Everyone wants the best deal for their future.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 09:54 PM
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My first gf after being a turbo incel turned chad at 30 bought me a $900 birthday gift. Then expected I matched her @ christmas. LOL nope honey.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 09:50 PM
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One of my closest female friends is a good example (well ex closest, for reasons, she basically abandoned our friendship as soon as I opened up and was vulnerable to her about issues I was going through - i was testing vulnerability with women and to no surprise there went an 18 year relationship the first time i open up) She went and got a business degree and ended up working her way up the career ladder. Her partner of 10 years was a roofer, making low bucks doing hard labor. After 10 years I …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 09:45 PM
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Former incel. Every time women would ask about past relationships. I was open and honest the first few times. But immediately I got the cold shoulder, the woman would slowly back away, and then eventually break up or ghost me. I ended up lying and it just made everything easier. I had already spent hundreds of hours learning about sex in all aspects. From how to touch a woman, how to arouse them, how to perform in all sexual aspects from positions to cunnilingus to how to thrust to how to use my…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 09:26 PM
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For instance I was vulnerable with one of my partners. She told me how it made her feel like I was weak. It made her feel less secure in the relationship. She said this when she was upset, so I got her without a filter. This same person repeatedly said she wanted me to be more vulnerable. So I tested her response. BTW this girl after being super horny, orgasming from penetration INTO IT basically couldn't even get wet for WEEKS after this! 'I don't what it is!!'... she would say. I knew why. Wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 04:20 PM
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you can literally ask any man if they want to have sex and the statistics say that you have a 99% chance of them accepting. For men it is 0%. If you don't have a chad its because you aren't trying. Because you can literally just spread your legs. But then again, you probably couldn't hold onto chad. He will fuck you and leave you. Like all the other damaged women who got alpha widowed that the rest of men have to fix.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 10:42 PM
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https://preview.redd.it/robcb3ggida81.jpg?width=960&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=81d61898784065f76ec0e0d355355d6ca9716716 Data from tinder, published in the book who we are when no one is looking. OKcupid has similar data, but they took it down because it shed a negative light and likely hurt their revenue (men gave up after seeing it). you can still find it however. It shows that men are more fair regarding who they can attract. As they show interest in women linearly with their attractiveness percen…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 09:26 PM
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You can read the book men are from mars and women are from venus. the tldr; is that despite society saying men and women are equal, we are not the same. We behave differently, have different brain structures so think differently. Its all rooted in evolutionary biology. Society likes to gaslight people into thinking we are the same under the guise of equality. But if you even just do a small dive into the psychology of how men and women behave you see that men and women are wired differently. For…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 07:51 PM
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Where is the whine? Recall you responded to me whining about 'bad behavior'. Do you just say the most random shit that comes to mind without thinking through if thats actually correct? I can take what I dish. You dished first. It sounds like you can't take it because you are getting all hot and bothered. Ugly duckling is a dating advice term 'find your ugly duckling'. Someone who isn't priviledged because of their looks will be more appreciative of attention. You denigrate because men opening up…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 04:28 PM
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Facts!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 10:39 AM
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"A guy like me" You mean confident, assertive, successful, flirty, fun, attractive? Why do you feel the need to insinuate that I am not a good partner? Does me being a good partner and my partner getting an amazing deal in life offend you? Like I literally worked on myself for my entire 20s so it shouldn't be a surprise...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 10:32 AM
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I don't understand women when they say I need you to help out more with chores to get into the moment. They're basically saying they'll be a prostitute if you be their slave. Sex should just happen because its fun, releases feel good hormones, strengthens your connection, and meets needs that both men and women have. If sex is not happening both parties should realize how important sex is and work on the reasons why sex isn't what it could be. 'His help wasn't enough' is the thoughts of a low qu…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 10:25 AM
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I was already a driven person, I just didn't quite understand the attraction game because my dad never taught me. The first part of that 12 years, my education and early career were entirely selfish. I figured that career was important and it was in an area where I was passionate. I wanted a good life. So I would say yes. It was a few difficult years levelling up but its totally worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 10:15 AM
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There is attracting women and then there is keeping one. Because I was pilled before women would date me, I got to test many red pill concepts. From psychology of both men and women, the science of attraction, and what is expected of me as a man in society.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 10:08 AM
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Why even insult me? like what do you even have to gain. The irony is that you probably aren't the type of person any man should want. Good natured people would empathize and understand, such as my current partner. Low quality women such as yourself would denigrate in a sad attempt to try to appear to have a higher social value. That's what bullies do. Except everyone else looks at you and sees how weak you are. Also this is reddit, so you are just pathetically insecure.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 09:54 AM
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Absolutely, same experience. She comes with a little bit of insecurity around her appearance. But its something that I understand very intimately and its one way we connected. I was passed on for the same reasons. She isn't fat by any means. Just a little overweight. Its something we're working on together. I know a lot about nutrition following my journey and i'm quite the cook. So I make sure we eat healthy and shes been looking better and better every day.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 10:16 PM
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Honestly I think it helps that I have a lot of money, since i spent my 20s building wealth. Im also a bit of an investment guru. My height has been a disadvantage. I have had girls mention it. They were also typically shitty people anyway and I never considered them good partners. So i cannot really say. The 6ft thing is really interesting because the phenomenon only happens in western countries which use imperial. Really sucks not being that magical 6 ft so I get it. To answer your question, ye…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 09:59 PM
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You wont understand how differently you are treated until you do the journey. So its really hard for me to explain. Your life improves in every possible way you can imagine. From how you are treated by sexual prospects to getting a promotion to walking down the grocery store isle and making eye contact with a person. People get out of my way and look distressed when they inconvenience me. Women are flirty and bubbly and find any way they can to get close to me. I get every job I apply for, even …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 09:51 PM
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This is literally proven in psychology. I do not have a rough go of it. I have a very active sex life and also I have a supportive partner who is 'ok' with me being vulnerable. I just also understand the psychological part of it, because I am well educated in psychology. So i understand that it is not always in my best interest to be vulnerable. Just humour me. Because the psychology studies do not lie. Brain scans do not lie. It is a fact of human nature. Women virtue signal and would never adm…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 09:39 PM
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5'10
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 09:38 PM
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To attribute that to red pill would be so say red pill invented stoicism. Which is not accurate. It’s illogical to attribute things that are common sense to red pill when it benefits redpill. It’s as irrational as saying religion invented morality so anyone who is morally good is participating in religion I have made it very clear that this is not what I am saying. I even acknowledged that stoicism comes from greece. Namely Marcus Aurelius, a philospher from the period. So you are choosing to ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 09:23 PM
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took me 12 years if I count the time I spent building my career. 4 years more generally on self improvement. Engineer in tech. 6 years of schooling post secondary, 16 hours a day grinding my ass off. 4.5 years working 8.5 hour days learning to be the best software engineer I could be. One application and I'm making multi six figures in the highest paying companies. During those 4.5 years working 8.5 hour days I was ghosted on dating apps repeatedly after 1-3 msgs. Got pilled, got fit/muscular, a…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 08:21 PM
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To attribute that to red pill would be so say red pill invented stoicism. Which is not accurate. It’s illogical to attribute things that are common sense to red pill when it benefits redpill. It’s as irrational as saying religion invented morality so anyone who is morally good is participating in religion. I am not attributing stoicism to the red pill. Can you point out where I said that? I am merely stating that a core component of the red pill is stoicism. This means that by definition men who…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 07:53 PM
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I have homework for you. Track the days you have sex. Take note of the days you become emotional. After some time reflect on any deviations in the rate of occurence of sex following periods where you were emotional. Studies show that women feel deep disgust when they see a vulnerable man. There are studies that have looked at brain activity and looked at arousal specifically and those regions basically shut off. A man being vulnerable activates regions of the brain that are responsible for a wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 07:37 PM
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That's my experience as well. They confuse toxic masculinity with the red pill. They're just ignorant to what the red pill is and are upset because scientifically proven things like hypergamy shed a negative light on female behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 07:32 PM
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This has everything to do with the red pill. Stoicism is a core tenant of the red pill. It can both be a core tenant of the red pill and taking responsibility for your life. A lot of what the red pill teaches, in regards to emotional maturity (stoicism) and self improvement (fitness, muscular, career, social skills, seduction skills) all relate to taking responsibility for your life and making a conscious decision to improve it. I feel you misunderstand my argument. I am not saying that stoicism…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 07:23 PM
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You are a minority here so your opinion is not even relevant. I'm not even American BTW. In other regions of the world women don't even earn an income. So how are they going to even pay?!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 07:15 PM
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This is why the red pill teaches men stoicism. This provides men with a level of self awareness and teaches them the power of choice. You can choose to be a shitty man because your child hood sucked. You can also choose to be a GOOD man (not nice) and accelerate beyond your means. Its all a choice. Feel sorry for yourself or pick yourself up by your bookstraps and get it done. Memento mori. There is a good book called 'it didn't start with you' that goes into inherited family trauma. I think men…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 07:09 PM
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As a man every time I have mentioned splitting the bill I have been met with immediate hostility and an awkward look from the server. Even from hardcore feminists with fem tats and everything. It is expected for a man to pay. Do not let virtue signalling feminists gaslight you into thinking otherwise. If a woman genuinely likes you she will offer to pay a fair share later down the road. It is a signal of attraction and respect. A woman who will not pay does not respect you, so exit the relations…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 06:53 PM
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I don't refute that. Women gained choice. But that does not mean they were imprisoned before which is the discussion at hand. Men and women have worked as a team for thousands of years. They did so because life was difficult alone and it was easier together. Men and women are suited towards different tasks. A man was more able to till the fields and hunt because of strength and endurance and a woman more able to forage and tend to the home. For instance women can see more shades of colors, which…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 05:37 PM
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thats fair, you can use an argumentative fallacy to exit the discussion if you wish. Its ok to make a mistake and correct. Your choice to exit without responding to what else was said is you responding emotionally rather than rationally. The fact is you cant speak against what I said regarding 'prisons', and are exiting the discussion on an off topic thing that was said because its a convenient justification for you at least in your eyes. Except its a fallacy and only in your head. So you won't …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 05:22 PM
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Men also are victims of violence significantly more than women. Violence against women from sexless men is a non issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 05:17 PM
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You are right I misquoted. 80% of women are categorized as feminine and 20% masculine. Which makes 20% of those women compatible with the majority of men who are now feminized through schooling, and the remaining 80% of women incompatible with feminized men. You also focused on one part of what I said. Care to respond to the other 90% or are you just going to cherry pick in a sad attempt to invalidate the entire argument through one small part of it
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 05:13 PM
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Studies have proven this. On birth control -> beta bob off birth control -> chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 04:39 PM
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63 percent aged 18 to 29.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 04:35 PM
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Not surprised you had a similar experience. Women say they want that spark, well that spark is created by the man by the man knowing how to turn the woman on. The issue is that many women have hooked up at some point with someone who knew seductgion, a lot of the PUA artist videos have MILLIONS of views. So men who have not WOKEN UP to the change in expectations look like boring beta bobs. Women have had chad who knew seduction and they then want chad for their future partner. Therefore as a man…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 04:33 PM
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When you wake up as a man you cant help but see women as children. Its a common feeling red pilled men get after learning psychology and how the brain works in both men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 04:28 PM
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thats because looks are a dealbreaker before any other attribute is considered. Read no more mr nice guy, models, the way of the superior man, the art of seduction, she comes first, you are not listening. women compete in indirect ways so you need to looks max. This means well dressed, well groomed, smell nice, white teeth. You won't appeal to a womans hypergamy looks wise if you fail to compete with her indirectly in this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 04:24 PM
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That doesn't make being a home maker a prison. If you were a woman on a farm you would be doing farm work like any other man. You may do less physically demanding tasks but you still provided to the capacity you could. Is that really a prison? or is it just life
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 04:22 PM
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Statistically over 80 percent of women want traditional gender roles so I have no idea what you are talking about. You are projecting your own views onto the views of other women with your use of 'us' and 'less desirable'. If anything traditional roles are making a comeback as women realize that joining the workforce is not as fulfilling as they were led to believe. Women have always been nurtured and cared for whether it was a homestead or a modern 2023 home. That hasn't changed. So equating a …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 04:20 PM
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as someone who was deprived of oxytocin for 30 years I found that oxytocin is by far the most regulating hormone in our body. After being starved of it for so long and feeling the stark difference in my whole person after getting it steadily. I learned that I would not wish oxytocin starvation on anyone. I was completely stoned after holding hands and cuddling for the first time. My first blowjob had me driving erratically down the freeway an hour later I was so stoned. Then I learned that the f…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 08:39 PM
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My partner and I have shared trauma. Not shared in the sense we went through the same events but shared in the sense that they caused the same type of wounds (abandonment, etc) and manifested in similar behaviors. I had learned to overcome these through studying psychology, and I was able to read her like a book. Poke and pry her thoughts and feelings and open her up. Also able to identify what she needs and why she behaves in certain ways. I am also able to hold her accountable and ensure she g…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 08:17 PM
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This is what all the post wall single women who are unable to bear children figure out.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 08:12 PM
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Equating traditional gender roles to being imprisoned is ridiculous. Yes, some women were treated poorly by their male partners. That is an exception makes the rule fallacy. If anything women have lost more than they have gained since they departed 'captivity'
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 08:11 PM
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On the first date, absolutely. I've had hardcore feminists get mad at me for asking to split. Its still the expectation. Later on? offer to pay. a woman offering would show me she is interested in continuing.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 08:01 PM
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statistically 80 percent of women are traditional and want traditional lives. Maybe not fully traditional, but they are girly girls. They want a man to help clean, help pay, they want to contribute too, but they are still feminine Now all the men are trained and conditioned to be like women and it starts in school. It makes those men incompatible with 80 percent of women. Attraction is based on polarity. Now we have a mass of feminine men who cant turn women on.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 07:55 PM
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Emotional availability is the ability to mirror a woman when she is vulnerable and needs emotional support. Its a mans ability to show empathy and compassion but always from a source of strength and support. Emotional availability is not a man bawling his eyes out being unable to handle himself. Men have an instinct to fix a woman crying, women have no such instinct and in fact studies show women feel disgust when a man is vulnerable in a weak way. Blue pilled women or women who want to appear m…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 07:49 PM
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60 percent of men failed to reproduce over history (80%+ women succeeded), so this has always been the case. Nothing has changed other than women having access to more men and now we have data to back it up
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 07:42 PM
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studies show that women have a higher sex drive and libido than men do
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 07:40 PM
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They bring more because there are more expectations placed on men now than prior. They bring less relative to how much they used to relative to women because women have levelled up in society. This affects women's perception of the relative value of men. Women also only date a subset of men who have built their person on being attractive to women with the sole intent of attracting women. They have become so good at seduction that normal men who have not learned have no chance unless they learn s…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 07:36 PM
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watch youtube videos. You can unincel yourself purely by watching youtube and putting it into practice
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 07:35 PM
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As a man your goal is to build your island. Your social circle is part of your island. It is important like any other part of your island and the importance of which depends on the extent to which you are lacking compared to other men and the particular woman you are with. If you have no friends that is a giant red flag. A lot of women are anxious and have trouble making friends, and therefore rely on their partner to be a leader in this regard and bring them around. Friends can make it much eas…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 07:32 PM
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Yep. they mistake toxic masculinity and what some mysogynist said as red pill. When in fact those people may say red pill things that are correct. The thesis of the red pill is describing how the world works as backed by evolutionary psychology (in regards to how people behave) and other data (in regards to how the world works). The red pill is not negotiable or arguable. it is a description of how the world works. It is by definition factual, as anything that isn't is not red pill. This include…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 07:21 PM
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