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You can share your experience but I don't have to believe you and I won't unless I see a picture.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/18 07:01 PM
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I doubt she was ugly. Whenever men show me a picture of an 'ugly' woman, it's just a pretty woman with no makeup.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/18 06:34 PM
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The only way I will believe she is not pretty is if you show me a picture. But even if she is actually ugly your story doesn't help your cause. You broke up with her and got with someone hotter. You didn't love her enough to stay with her despite her issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/18 05:54 PM
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It still only happens to pretty women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/18 04:48 PM
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I am not sure which way it goes.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/18 04:18 AM
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I don't know them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/18 04:13 AM
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I love you and your husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/18 03:47 AM
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No men want them. And it's not ideal for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/18 02:48 AM
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There was never the opportunity for you to get with one of those girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/18 12:44 AM
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What? How?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/18 12:43 AM
1

Men select for young women and not career driven women so it makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/18 12:40 AM
1

What if there are more unwanted women than men?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/18 11:36 PM
1

What if there are more unwanted women than men?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/18 11:34 PM
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More attractive than usual.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/18 09:30 PM
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You were fantasizing about hot girls that weren't into you when you had a 6/10 that was into you and that you were bored with.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/18 02:42 AM
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Didn't you tell me previously that you were bored with your girlfriend and fantasized what your life would be like with the cute women you followed on instagram?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/18 01:08 AM
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It's real hormones. I think when you say a 'real bond' you mean a long lasting, stable bond. Is that right?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/18 08:57 PM
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It isn't as stable, yeah. The increased oxytocin after sex may be why women ascribe more meaning to the act though. Men seem to be okay with fucking someone they don't even like. Women, not as much. Some papers I read suggested that oxytocin is required for female arousal. This might be another reason women are less interested in casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/18 05:41 PM
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Glasses.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/18 05:23 PM
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No it's not. If it's well known show me a study detailing its bonding role in human males.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/18 11:14 AM
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The role of vassopressin in human male bonding is not well known. You are speculating as much as I am.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/18 11:11 AM
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They produce some but not as much as women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/18 07:37 AM
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Men release more vasopressin but it is unclear the role this has in bonding.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/18 02:59 AM
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Men do not release as much. Google it lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/18 02:40 AM
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How?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/18 02:32 AM
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Oxytocin is the chemical responsible for pair bonding.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/18 02:30 AM
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Men not as much as women. It's not as critical for them to stick around. In fact it may even increase their reproductive potential to take off after sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/18 02:28 AM
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It is still speculative and mostly based on prairie voles, but here is a good overview of the topic. https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/14681990412331297974
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/18 02:20 AM
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What was your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/18 10:03 PM
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So you weren't taking birth control in order to have casual sex but for medical reasons?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/18 10:02 PM
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Women produce bonding chemicals after sex. Men don't. I am sure that not all women bond as a result of sex but in general they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/18 10:01 PM
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I would bet that the majority of the 42% of unmarried women on birth control are in relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/18 09:57 PM
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Single meaning not in a relationship. Even if we just say single means unmarried, most unmarried women are not on birth control.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/18 09:52 PM
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Single meaning not in a relationship. Even if we just say single means unmarried, most unmarried women are not on birth control.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/18 09:52 PM
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What percentage of single women are on birth control?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/18 09:46 PM
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I want statistics though.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/18 09:31 PM
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Most guys are nice and attractive. So what?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/18 09:30 PM
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In relationships, outside of relationships, it's nearly ubiquitous. Source? Also, even if they are using BC within the context of a relationship, it doesn't disprove that women don't see sex as entirely procreative. There was another reason besides procreation. Having sex in an attempt to build emotional bonds is different from having sex as an expression of emotional bonds. You are already bonded to him. You hope he becomes bonded to you through sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/18 09:29 PM
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Source on the first answer?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/18 09:27 PM
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I would rather get a root canal, throw up for 24 hours straight, or eat a cockroach than have sex with another person that I didn't already know and love.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/18 08:40 PM
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You get feelings whether you like it or not. Well maybe men don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/18 08:34 PM
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98% of women have been on BC at some point in time is a lot different than saying that most women outside of relationships are on BC. That's still casual and very different from what's stated in the OP: "expression of your feelings in a more physical manner, when emotional and spiritual bond is already established". If you are having sex in hopes of a relationship, then this is the goal.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/18 08:31 PM
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Not for women I think.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/18 08:25 PM
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I wouldn't be aroused enough to get any pleasure from it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/18 08:24 PM
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Are most women outside of relationships on BC? Do women try casual sex or do they have sex with someone hoping it turns into a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/18 07:35 PM
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Why wouldn't you just masturbate then? It's more convenient and no risk of STDs, pregnancy, or someone getting hurt.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/18 07:33 PM
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Yeah. I don't understand what other reasons there would be.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/18 07:12 PM
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I don't understand why anyone would have casual sex unless they hoped it would turn into a relationship. If you were horny you could just masturbate.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/18 07:07 PM
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How is it wrong though?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/18 06:52 PM
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What other reasons would there be? Seems right to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/18 06:52 PM
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It would be nice to have appreciating value in the RMP, but I wouldn't want to fuck women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/18 04:50 PM
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You are attractive enough to get a man who doesn't abuse you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/18 05:38 AM
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I like this idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/18 03:07 AM
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That's interesting. Do you have a link to the study?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/18 01:44 AM
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Men prefer attractive women that are attracted to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/18 01:42 AM
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Since beauty is common when you find your wife/partner you won't think "I am with her because she is beautiful". Loads of women are beautiful and you probably can't stand to be around some of them. What will make your wife special to you will be something different. Maybe she is beautiful AND kinder to you than anyone else has been in your whole entire life. So if someone asks you why you are with her you will talk about the things that make her unique and important to you. Beauty is a requireme…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/18 03:19 PM
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You are projecting your priorities on women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/18 03:05 PM
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I think you are the girlfriend and are pretending to be the boyfriend for some reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/18 07:37 AM
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Yeah it is normal. That's why I called her a typical girl. Are you the girlfriend?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/18 07:32 AM
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She wants your attention and reassurance.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/18 07:29 AM
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No she sounds like a typical needy girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/18 07:14 AM
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Okay. That's what I said. Break up with her and find someone you like more.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/18 07:07 AM
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We weren't manipulated into thinking that way. Men see our virginity as a prize and we respond accordingly. We don't see sex as a reward, it's only men that see it that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/18 07:05 AM
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No. She sounds like a typical woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/18 06:47 AM
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I don't want a confident guy with options so it's perfect for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/18 03:38 PM
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I think you are right. They won't be satisfied with Chad either.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/18 08:26 AM
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Yeah it is narcissistic and related to wanting more control. It gets old always being the one with less power.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/18 08:22 AM
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No.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/18 03:09 PM
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Your advice only applies to Stacys because theses are the only type of women who would have a guy like this in their social group.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/18 03:07 PM
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I have never even met a guy like the one you described.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/18 02:49 PM
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Are you sure that's what they think? I hear women say that they want an ambitious, confident, charming, cute guy, but I don't hear them say they deserve it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/18 07:35 AM
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Why do they feel they deserve the best?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/18 07:10 AM
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Can you give some examples of humble and not humble behavior?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/18 06:33 AM
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They aren't any more violent than the rest of the population.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/18 07:21 PM
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Women love being victims.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/18 06:21 PM
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Leave them alone. Let them do whatever they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/18 07:05 PM
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Men only decide whether or not they will commit until after they've had sex with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/18 07:03 PM
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Attraction is not a rational or even conscious decision so it doesn't matter if you actually provide for her or not. Like men are attracted to fake boobs even though they don't make milk.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/18 08:38 AM
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I think you missed the whole point of my OP. It's not supposed to be actual advice. I just framed it that way to make a point.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/18 01:47 AM
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Lucky for me there are men who don't want casual sex so we can agree to never fuck each other and then both of us can be happy. Men do commit to the point that they forgo their sexuality for women's benefit. Imagine loving a man so much that you're okay with him having other wives, who he'd love as much as you. You can't? Well men give up on their sexuality to give women the commitment they desire because they want to be there. This is such bullshit. Would you be okay with your wife fucking othe…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/18 01:44 AM
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Yes. This is what my ex did and it worked on me.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/18 10:47 PM
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It's how my ex got me to do stuff I didn't want to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/18 10:42 PM
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Well the advice tag was tongue-in-cheek. Can it be resubmitted under the discussion flair?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/18 10:41 PM
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Guaranteed to work 100%.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/18 09:33 PM
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No dude. The sarcasm just went over your head. The post was obviously tongue-in-cheek.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/18 08:45 PM
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Perhaps.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/18 08:39 PM
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You missed the whole point lol. It's not supposed to be taken seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/18 08:38 PM
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How do I know this except via her being weird as fuck and telling me? Maybe you asked or hired a private investigator. What is making her date me but concurrently not want to do that stuff if shes into it? She's not into it. That's the problem. She was willing to do something she didn't like with her ex but not with you. My post tells you how to get the same treatment.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/18 08:26 PM
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Mmmhmm.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/18 08:16 PM
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What difference would it make if you had dated someone at 16 or even 18 instead? You still wouldn't have researched her if you hadn't found the manosphere at that point. You would have no reason to.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/18 08:15 PM
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The age doesn't make a difference. A lot of guys treated their girlfriends differently before they found TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/18 08:06 PM
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You won't treat all your future girlfriends like you treated your first girlfriend at 12. That's unfair. You should give them the same treatment and not research them just like you didn't research her.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/18 07:25 PM
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I make my research on my potential partner before I date her. Did you do this to your first girlfriend?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/18 07:15 PM
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If he gives me what I need at the moment.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/18 07:03 PM
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Wait until I decide you're good enough while I have fun and party, then when I'm done and don't do that anymore I'll think about settling for you, k? You just wait there like a good boy, and don't judge me, k? No woman thinks this.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/18 07:00 PM
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Because if men just want casual sex then they don't really love us. They just want to use us to masturbate. And if I was a man and not a tall surgeon then I might be sad about that, yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/18 06:07 AM
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I am sad that men even want this.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/18 03:26 AM
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No, but it's why men are unhappy with the current smp/rmp and turn to trp to get something closer to what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/18 01:44 AM
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But do 84% of men have casual sex on demand with a multiple non-fat woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/18 11:59 PM
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Prevent that specific individual from reproducing because of some biological or physiological aspect that would not be beneficial to the species. This explanation doesn't make sense. Suppose you had some genotype that produced homosexuality. Let's call it genotype H. Now let's assume that species with some frequency of genotype H reproduce better than species without it (i.e. genotype H is beneficial to the species). But the individuals with genotype H reproduce worse than individuals without it…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/18 07:26 PM
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You are just about my height then. Is three feet of that neck for you too?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/18 01:58 AM
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If it's a guy I like, then yeah. Basically a woman's interest in a man's junk is no greater than her interest in him. Yeah this is true. It's directly proportional.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/18 01:52 AM
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I know you are skinny, but are you also tall?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/18 01:47 AM
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I prefer my height or taller but I like the idea of having a smaller boyfriend that I could carry around with me everywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/18 11:51 PM
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Is that all?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/18 01:45 AM
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How do we need to act?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/18 01:42 AM
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I might be biased against seeing it but I have never seen a single woman say this.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/18 04:02 PM
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Of course. I thought this was well known. Men are equally as interested in status, just the things that give men status are different then what give women status. For men, having a hot girlfriend or dating a model/cheerleader is a huge status boost.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/18 03:26 PM
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I think it depends on what you count as effort. For you or me, making friends and hanging out with them regularly takes a great deal of work, but for extroverted people this behavior comes naturally. That's why it seems so effortless to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/18 03:14 PM
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Unfortunately in order for them to love you more you need to love them less.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/18 12:22 PM
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For women, low status = fat and slutty.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/18 12:04 PM
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This was an interesting read from me, so used to the parades of women here expousing the virtues of getting hot boyfriends to fuck early and often in life. I don't think this is a common view here at all. Women are more likely to regret sexual activity in general, especially sex that doesn't lead to a relationship. Women recognize that once they have sex with a guy, their value diminishes to other men and even to the man she had sex with.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/18 12:00 PM
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Is that you B? :D
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/18 11:45 AM
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Yeah lol. I think they don't understand because they've never actually been in this situation before. Every time your friend is a little bit nicer than usual, you start to get your hopes up only to be rejected all over again. And they never, ever change their mind. Ugh, it sucks so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/18 02:35 AM
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I'm a woman and I agree. It's pure torture especially when you are such good friends they start talking to you about the other girl they are fucking.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/18 02:18 AM
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It means I love the person a lot and want to be with them forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/18 01:42 AM
-1

Are you incel?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/18 11:53 PM
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He doesn't want kids and I don't want kids enough to leave him.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/18 11:05 PM
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I don't get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/18 11:00 PM
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Because guys don't want to commit to sluts and will judge them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/18 11:00 PM
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No, that's not why they lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/18 10:49 PM
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I've noticed I tend to be attracted to girls who are "fed up" with male attention by the time I get to them. You mean you are attracted to hot girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/18 10:41 PM
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If they weren't then they wouldn't lie about their n-counts and their past sexual history.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/18 10:40 PM
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Maybe all the slut shaming worked.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/18 10:27 PM
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Maybe you falsely advertised yourself as not interested in her sexually.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/18 07:56 PM
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Nah lol. I am going to paint him a giant Goku to hang on his wall.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/18 07:19 PM
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He has his own room decorated with anime characters and bikes!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/18 07:09 PM
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What does it mean to get the best deal? According to some of the men here it means anal threesomes in the bar bathroom and never to be seen again.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/18 04:29 PM
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They feel guilty for rejecting the guy so they try to shift blame to him. That way they can avoid feeling guilty.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/18 03:05 PM
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I don't get this. Women love to virtue signal. What better way to show all your friends you aren't shallow than date someone much less attractive than yourself? And what woman wants to be the ugly one in the relationship? People will look at you and think "Poor guy. He can do so much better."
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/18 12:50 PM
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I would like a pill movement for women that emphasizes agency, tolerates conflicting viewpoints, and doesn't moralize or indoctrinate.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/18 07:03 AM
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Have you ever felt envious/jealous of a partner? Yeah. How did you handle it? Not well. I made them compare the other person to me. "What do you like about her that I don't have? etc." Have you ever felt the brunt of your partner's envy/jealousy? No.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/18 08:40 PM
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I don't think so. Usually women fantasize about some rich guy with a tortured past that can only be saved by her love.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/18 07:40 PM
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Is that a problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/18 01:44 PM
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I hope whatever girlfriend you end up with treats you well.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/18 12:18 AM
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She probably has created her identity around her hobbies and by expressing approval of her hobbies you are implicitly saying that you approve of her. If it I were my girlfriend I might ask if I could feed the minnows and then be very excited when she says yes. If she keeps asking you to look at her minnows nonstop, start asking her to look at something you like until she gets annoyed and leaves you alone lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/18 11:05 PM
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I would read between the lines and try to figure out what she is communicating rather than the words she is saying. They will most likely be different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/18 10:53 PM
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Rejection hurts less if you focus on the person's flaws.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/18 10:41 PM
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Slutty flings, virgin rings.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/18 03:20 PM
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Maybe if you had sex right away he wouldn't have married you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/18 02:35 PM
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Those assholes are nice to the women they sleep with.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/18 04:50 AM
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Did it work out? Are you still dating him?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/18 04:49 AM
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We could just ask the question "What does it take to get laid?" That seems more helpful.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 12:22 AM
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How does it help anyone to idealize manhood?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/18 09:35 PM
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Maybe entitled narcissists that believe they are inferior.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/18 06:44 PM
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Men dont like that situation either because they dont want to be the man the woman settles for after she gets pumped and dumped. Not that women think that way, but according to rpillers they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/18 06:23 PM
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Zealous worship.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/18 06:03 PM
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Men believe women are inferior and we agree. There is no 'made to be inferior' because inferiority is based on the value people place on a person's relative worth.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/18 04:39 PM
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Welcome INTJ overlord. I trust that you will rule fairly.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/18 04:36 PM
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Yeah, but why complain about women being hypergamous when it's lying men that causes it?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/18 02:16 PM
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Easy. Stop thinking you are better than other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/18 02:10 PM
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Women are hypergamous = men think they are superior to the women they date. Remember that foids. The guy that pretends to like you thinks he's doing a favor by dating you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/18 02:08 PM
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Well he can just tell her "hey I don't think you are good enough for a relationship, but we can still have sex".
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/18 01:52 AM
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If a woman who is clearly inferior to you sends you an ioi, ignore it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/18 12:41 AM
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Women don't shoot for anything. Men approach them. Why are you approaching women that are beneath you men?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/18 11:25 PM
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Viruses are also interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/18 08:17 PM
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Yeah, that is step one.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/18 05:38 PM
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Like I said. They pretend to be innocent because men punish them for being openly sexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/18 05:24 PM
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Not a true beta no. Only situational betas. Men who feel out competed in the SMP/RMP are more afraid of cuckoldry and their mate choices reflect that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/18 05:24 PM
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They stop liking me as much after some point in time.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/18 05:22 PM
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Beta men want madonnas. Maybe Chads marry whores.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/18 05:01 PM
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Not everyone. I have an easy time finding people who dont party and dont have casual sex. I think it must just be your social circles. It's a bizarre mentality for a woman. She is open, fun, flirty, and sexual for hook-up guys, but -pretends- to be reserved for a serious guy. Why would she want to hide a part of herself - the FUN side - from a guy she wants to date seriously and maybe even spend the rest of her life with? Who wants to be un-fun for their serious partners? She doesn't want him to…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/18 05:00 PM
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What do you think motivates them to talk about that stuff?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/18 04:56 PM
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That sounds boring but there must be something interesting about it to them since they are talking about it. Maybe we just don't understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/18 04:55 PM
4

I think you could easily switch the latter conversation to the former.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/18 03:34 PM
2

That's a shitty place to be in. Were the majority of her interactions with you some sort of criticism of your behavior?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/18 03:32 PM
11

Men don't marry whores, they marry madonnas. I think that is the explanation for the compartmentalizing of sex. It's a reaction to men wanting to fuck slutty women but commit to someone pure. If they really like a guy then they want him to see her as marriage material.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/18 03:30 PM
13

Why don't men find people interesting? They are extremely complex, relevant in our lives, and a lot about them is unknown.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/18 03:25 PM
1

I'm ugly and I get hit on once ever two years when I go outside with makeup and heels.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/18 09:47 PM
0

I think it's the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/18 08:35 PM
1

Men look good how they are naturally. The ideal for me would be a guy who looks like he just emerged from 20 years in the wilderness. All tats look bad to me. It's like someone found a beautiful old beech tree and thought it could be improved by carving their initials into it. Dumb. Beards are nice though.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/18 07:45 PM
7

This sounds like a fat guy who wants a skinny girl and rationalizes it by telling himself that he plans to become fit in the future lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/18 01:18 AM
1

It's human nature to obsess over something that you can't have rather than what you have.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/18 01:15 AM
5

A good way to make it obviously clear that you aren't into it is by saying no thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/18 10:51 PM
1

The women are always emotionally unavailable though.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/18 08:48 AM
1

You are above average.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/18 08:43 PM
1

I was including a couple standard deviations around the mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/18 08:09 PM
3

Actually ugly guys don't hang around incel circles long. It's mostly average looking, high-inhibition guys with exaggerated insecurities.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/18 07:45 PM
1

He doesn't need the blackpill because he already knows. Life has taught him the back pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/18 06:57 PM
1

Looks are everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/18 06:36 PM
1

Okay but most men do get oneitis/obsessed. And the object of their oneitis/obsession is always an emotionally unavailable woman that gives them some indicators of interest but does not make herself fully available.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/18 06:25 PM
1

Which woman were you obsessed with?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/18 05:37 PM
1

You push and pull I think.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/18 04:17 PM
2

if i wanted to do the things i missed out on i could just do them now
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/18 06:34 AM
1

It's convenient and there is no chance of anyone's feelings getting hurt.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/18 12:13 AM
1

Get a prostitute then.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 11:49 PM
2

It's crazy how they just decided which one would died and then she did. It's like she willed herself into dying.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 10:24 PM
2

True. If you like someone you will want to keep them in your life, not move on to the next available pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 10:16 PM
1

Nope. They are nice people and very accepting.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 09:36 PM
1

If you really liked the woman you would want something more than casual.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 09:35 PM
1

Fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 09:17 PM
2

Oh look another moid obsessed with casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 07:29 PM
1

Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 05:54 PM
1

I don't leave my house and I talk to incels all day long. I don't know how many times I have to say it. I don't know any top men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 05:53 PM
1

Doesn't that mean that you don't actually like clingy, insecure women, you just put up with them because you have no choice?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 03:29 PM
1

Either way you don't want to do it again.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 03:25 PM
1

You don't find maintaning their emotions exhausting?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 03:13 PM
2

The end result is the same. They dump you and you don't fuck anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 02:43 PM
2

Same difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 02:06 PM
1

It doesn't affect me at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 01:57 PM
1

He only acts insecure as a response to my own insecurity because he knows it helps me feel better. I think he just acts insecure to comfort me lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 01:28 PM
0

That's a minority of men who act like that, not all or even most of them. Nah it's all. That's why playing hard to get or making him chase you is part of female game.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 01:24 PM
1

I told you. I don't know any top 20% of men. I know you think you want a clingy woman but when you actually get one you will change your mind fast. How do I know? I have seen it happen over and over again. Men think they are exempt from human nature but they are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 01:22 PM
1

This is my ideal relationship. What do you think?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 01:17 PM
1

He wouldn't like me saying this, but I don't think he is insecure.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 01:10 PM
1

Have you asked out many women?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 07:45 AM
1

You are right.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 07:44 AM
1

Yeah. It sucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 06:51 AM
2

They still obsess over their unavailable crush.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 06:20 AM
2

No I never met a top 5% man and I only hang out with incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 05:59 AM
1

Maybe not hot women but emotionally unavailable women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 05:23 AM
2

We've had two threads on it recently.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 05:21 AM
0

Nah, for most men crazy means insecure and clingy. I can't relate to any of your post. You have not had a clingy girlfriend so how do you know if you would like it? I guarantee you wouldn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 05:20 AM
-2

This is tangential.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 02:55 AM
2

Yeah, this is all true.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 02:47 AM
1

You have never asked me for reassurance or displayed any clingy behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 02:22 AM
1

No you aren't, at least not towards me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 02:19 AM
1

You aren't insecure.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 02:17 AM
0

I suspect that’s a pretty small percentage of men. They may be the grist they keeps the manosphere mill going but it’s def not the majority This is the extreme manifestation of a behavior that is evident in the majority of men. No, not really. No. Well it seems like every woman has an abusive ex story.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 02:13 AM
1

So you at least admit that you do not like clingy women?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 02:11 AM
0

You've had a crazy orbiter.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 02:09 AM
1

Who said anything about regularly? Even once is too much.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 02:04 AM
1

No he said it was because he was drunk.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 01:31 AM
5

That's even worse. You get attached to someone and then they leave you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 01:19 AM
2

I've never even seen an insecure man.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 01:05 AM
1

Insecure men do not exist and men do not tolerate insecurity in women. They image they would like it if their oneitis was insecure, and yeah I'm sure they would, but they don't actually like the clingy women that are into them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/18 11:47 PM
1

Where are all these insecure men? How come I never meet them? Why are these self proclaimed insecure men never insecure with me?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/18 11:04 PM
0

Insecurity in men doesn't exist. Men only get clingy with hot women. As a man, if a woman I’m in a relationship with has some insecurities, that’s not unattractive to me at all, provided that it’s not over the top and annoying. "I can tolerate insecurity if it's on my terms and only in small doses." Fuck you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/18 11:02 PM
1

Why does Splijo fuck fat women when he would never date one?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/18 09:37 PM
1

On this one. Social shaming and status are allocated based on conformity to gender roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/18 09:36 PM
1

Why do they fuck fat women then and not date them?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/18 08:42 PM
1

Dating a high status rich man give a woman status in the FSM, but other women look down on you if you are dating a guy out of your league lookswise. He can't be completely hideous, but he has to be less attractive than the woman. When the guy is really hot and the woman is not, people talk. And no woman wants to be the ugly one in the relationship. I think women would rather die than be that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/18 08:36 PM
1

It makes them feel better about themselves. PUAS want to fuck women for their own self esteem too, not just to brag about it to other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/18 08:30 PM
1

That might be part of the reason but there aren't enough body builder types to make a difference in the trend. Most men are overweight, not body builders.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/18 08:26 PM
1

Because they like saying that they fucked 25 women. They want to be attractive to multiple women even if they dont find the women attractive themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/18 07:43 PM
1

She just agreed with me. What don't I get?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/18 07:15 PM
1

You haven't read the studies and you don't know what you are talking about. If you plot dating success as a function of bmi, women's dating success decreases as their bmi increases. For men their dating success actually increases with increasing bmi.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/18 07:14 PM
3

They seem to involve the same skill though, the projection of your personal experiences and feelings onto someone else. You might say that solipsism is misdirected empathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/18 02:28 PM
2

They just use them for validation. They don't actually like them or find them attractive. They probably close their eyes during sex to keep from losing their erection. And then they laugh about hamplanets later with their friends, mocking her. Who would want this? I'd rather die.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/18 02:20 PM
1

If you are okay with having sex with someone that is disgusted by you just get a prostitute.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/18 07:34 AM
2

They get fucked yeah. But then later the guy complains to his friends that he can only fuck landwhales. Do you really envy her situation?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/18 06:22 AM
2

Nah, if you look at the stats on weight and dating, being overweight doesn't negatively impact a man's dating life as much as it does women's.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/18 06:10 AM
1

Because I hear my guy friends complain about having to date fat ugly women much more than my girlfriends talk about it. The women complain about him not being ambitious or exciting enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/18 05:35 AM
2

=D
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/18 04:52 AM
1

Ask your sister and see what she says.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/18 04:51 AM
1

They originally were nobody's favorite animal and then suddenly every 20 year old woman started liking them and now they come on clothes and stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/18 04:47 AM
8

This is a very hard question. I wonder if you could narrow it down to an age group? If she is between 25 and 35 she probably has been into either Harry Potter, Game of Thrones, Gilmore Girls, Project Runway, or Gray's Anatomy at some point. Although slightly overweight, she does Zumba, yoga, or jogs. She has Instagram and Snapchat. She loves sloths, unicorns, or some kind of quirky animal. She is always on a diet and watches makeup videos on Youtube. She likes Radiohead or Taylor Swift. She enjo…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/18 04:14 AM
1

Me too.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/18 11:10 PM
1

Is this a lead up to another song?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/18 10:19 PM
1

Yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/18 09:56 PM
1

I can't believe that sound used to be popular.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/18 09:21 PM
3

Can't wake up the dead.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/18 08:51 PM
7

I have asked my boyfriend to wake me up with sex but he always says no because it's too rapey.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/18 08:32 PM
11

(He blew up at me for trying to hold onto him at a haunted house and smacked my hand away multiple times saying, “don’t fucking touch me”). This is the bigger sin imo. To answer your question though, no. It wouldn't be rape though.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/18 08:27 PM
-1

For men yeah. But for women I don't think having a hot boyfriend gives you any additional status.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/18 07:34 PM
2

They don't look ugly to their partner. They look hot and sexy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/18 07:32 PM
3

I think the reason you think women are like that is because you are like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/18 07:24 PM
4

I don't understand why some women don't learn that fucking a hot guy, or a series of hot guys, will usually not result in one of those hot guys asking her to marry him. It does though. Many marriages start this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/18 07:13 PM
3

Is it because you find it impossible to be attracted to ugly fat women?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/18 07:08 PM
3

The reason you have to be attractive is because the willing women are so few that you face stiff competition. Men are all competing for that willing 20% of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/18 04:47 PM
4

I don't understand women. Why can't they just talk normally? They use all this covert communication and they expect me to understand but I don't. I don't understand why men want casual sex so much. If they really loved the woman, why don't they want to be with her long term? If they just want variety, why don't they say that? I don't know why anyone aspires to be with an attractive partner. I get that attractive people are attractive, but if the 4/10 and the 7/10 are equally attractive to you, t…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/18 04:39 PM
2

The 20% of men that are responsible for 80% of the sex and the top 20% most attractive men are also not identical sets.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/18 04:36 PM
1

Aww. People suck. Sorry you have to change your face just to be treated decently.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/18 07:27 AM
1

How do other people react to your face?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/18 07:18 AM
2

I mean that's what they think regardless of whether or not you think love is real.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/18 06:33 AM
1

They aren't choosing us, the best male, therefore women are crazy and stupid immature babies cursed by the hypergamoose who need to be put into slave pens or at least forced to choose the best male. For their own good as well as they need to be with the best one. Me, thinks every male. The best one, or the one that loves her? They see their oneitis pining over a guy that is only vaguely interested in her and they wonder why she doesn't pine over a man that loves her instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/18 06:28 AM
2

Ok so men mostly kill people in their immediate social circle.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/18 04:01 AM
6

Except men kill their wives more than they kill strangers.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/18 03:29 AM
1

Not my fault your generation is a bunch of degenerates.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/18 03:25 AM
0

Even if women weren't hypergamous, 20% of the men would be getting 80% of the sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/18 12:35 AM
-1

20% of customers are responsibel fo r80% of the sales This is probably true too though. women are GIVING the sex, men are GETTING the sex 20% of women are giving 80% of the sex, so men are primarily competing for that 20% of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/18 11:56 PM
2

Yeah. So I am wondering why it is used as 'proof' of hypergamy at all. 20% of both male and female sluts are responsible for 80% of the sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/18 11:33 PM
1

So it would mean that 20% of the women are also having 80% of the sex, correct?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/18 10:59 PM
1

Meeting guys at bars and on Tinder for casual sex is not that common.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/18 08:36 PM
1

They have casual sex with people they know, the friends that party with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/18 08:11 PM
5

Other studies in different contexts report similar findings. That is why there is so much competition for the few women who are open to casual sex. For every one women who is dtf, there are hundred men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/18 07:24 PM
1

Are you saying that people will characterize the woman's disapproval as a lack of empathy but won't characterize male disapproval in the same way? I don't understand what gender difference you are observing here.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/18 07:23 PM
3

It's still not a fair test though because you are limiting your sample size to drunk women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/18 07:11 PM
2

There are multiple studies on this topic but here is the one I was thinking of. https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10508-011-9750-4 Since it's behind a paywall, I clipped some of the results. https://imgur.com/a/v0fsoza
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/18 07:11 PM
4

I don't think he would have much more success at a bar. Besides, drunk women are easier. So how is that a fair measure of attraction? You are just aiming for low hanging fruit at that point.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/18 06:42 PM
8

It is not a small number. There was an experiment where a hot guy offered women casual sex and only 3% of women accepted his offer. When they reversed genders like 80% of men said yes lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/18 06:15 PM
4

What about the women who don't have casual sex? Are they not attracted to anyone?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/18 05:44 PM
1

Then other women will start liking him once they find out you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/18 09:40 AM
1

No they don't. Not even incels will date them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/18 09:35 AM
1

I doubt that is the only reason. And if you wouldn't date her then stop pretending like ugly women have it so easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/18 09:27 AM
1

Susan Boyle was 53 before she found someone and also famous. That doesn't bode well for my friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/18 09:21 AM
1

My friend was not as attractive as Amy Schumer.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/18 09:16 AM
3

Yeah they will string her along until someone better shows interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/18 09:13 AM
1

The majority of men do not want to date sub 7 women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/18 09:01 AM
1

Well I like her.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/18 03:00 AM
1

You picked her out for me lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/18 02:53 AM
1

My friends are the best!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/18 02:46 AM
2

/u/lemonfloss want to get a room with me? hee hee. ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/18 01:56 AM
1

Hi lemons <3.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/18 01:21 AM
0

No I just meant that she can't find an interested guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/18 07:50 PM
4

No, they all have girlfriends now. One of my femcel friends is still single. I did meet a few virgin guys in grad school but they were either Korean or Chinese and didn't seem interested in dating. The Indian guys were all married to someone back home.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/18 07:20 PM
6

Don't love us. Just go away and leave us alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/18 06:41 PM
1

Yes you did. even though most of their dating life has been without commitment themselves).
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/18 09:31 PM
2

Our expectations for others are higher than the ones we keep for ourselves. Everyone wants the same kind of love but no one is willing to give the kind of love they want to others.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/18 09:21 PM
1

You said it was both A and B though. You grossly mischaracterized the responses just like I said. (so barring the inexperienced women, this means that they would mostly have expected commitment from a virgin man, even though most of their dating life has been without commitment themselves). This is not true and the responses did not say that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/18 06:21 PM
2

Show me all the quotes from women that would BOTH... A) Have casual sex. B) Have sex with a virgin but only in a committed relationship. Please quote them below.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/18 05:15 PM
3

I would never have casual sex with anyone. No, I'm religious. I wouldn't have casual sex with anybody. I wouldn't with anyone, period. lol. Why casual sex specifically? What if I am in love with him and want a relationship? I think itd be nicer to have known the person for a little bit rather than a random pick up. ​
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/18 02:01 PM
4

Dude. They said they wouldn't have casual sex with anyone. You are grossly misinterpreting the responses.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/18 01:49 PM
2

No, this is what you said. (so barring the inexperienced women, this means that they would mostly have expected commitment from a virgin man, even though most of their dating life has been without commitment themselves). So show me the responses that say 'I have had casual sex most of my dating life but from a virgin I would expect commitment.'
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/18 01:12 PM
6

I have about 5 guys she could pick from if she's interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/18 07:33 AM
5

I am not that tall, only 5'9.5". But it has never been a problem for me. Short men have it much worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/18 06:52 AM
5

I have never read one in my life. Any negative opinion I have of men comes from reading comments by redpillers not feminist blogs.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/18 06:29 AM
1

Is there anything I don't know? Because I can't think of anything that you would need to hide.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/18 06:12 AM
1

Like you?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/18 05:03 AM
1

even though most of their dating life has been without commitment themselves). This is not true though. They didn't want to have casual sex with anyone, virgin or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/18 05:01 AM
3

I like this tactic. It saves everyone a lot of pain and trouble.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/18 04:59 AM
0

It matters for me since I want to understand how men think.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/18 05:23 PM
0

I say I care about looks but I actually don't. 😈
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/18 05:06 PM
0

I am basing this on the opinions of men I talk to online, not on history.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/18 04:59 PM
2

She actually fought for Germany during WW2.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/18 07:27 AM
1

So with all the other choices you would prefer a single mom?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/18 07:18 AM
2

I want to see how far this goes. o__o Men who would you rather date? A single mom, or.... An alcoholic. Someone who killed a kid while drunk driving. An drug addict. (opiates) A woman with 100k worth of dept. Someone with multiple felonies for armed robbery. Someone who falsely accused a past boyfriend of rape. A nazi.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/18 07:05 AM
1

It seems she could still have values similar to your own though, but the high n-count woman could not.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/18 06:36 AM
1

:o
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/18 06:07 AM
2

Yeah, they do. For men respect = obedience.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/18 05:53 AM
2

In these examples I would have deference without admiration.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/18 04:29 AM
2

I mean come up with a common situation in relationships that might prompt deference.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/18 04:14 AM
2

I am struggling to come up with an example that would be relevant. Can you? Like if my fake husband was an expert proctologist and at the top of his field, would I agree to do anal? I don't think so lol. Most of my decisions to defer or not to defer do not seem to be based on my respect for him respect or his skill level at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/18 03:13 AM
2

There are multiple uses of the word. Respect-deference is usually used under the context of an authority figure."Children should respect their parents and do as they are told" Respect-admiration is another use "I have known Atlas for several years and although we disagree on many things I have the upmost respect for her." There is also a third sense which means something like consideration, but who cares about that. if you respected soemoens ability to do X base din your definition woudl you the…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/18 12:58 AM
2

You asked me to define respect without using deference in the definition. If you want to include it we can.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/18 12:27 AM
2

It is a subcategory of admiration that only applies to a person on the basis of their personal achievements or character and not, for instance, because intrinsic characteristics like looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/18 10:54 PM
1

That's for him to decide.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/18 10:26 PM
2

Admiration for one's skills or character.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/18 10:24 PM
5

It would feel better if she didn't expect it. You would feel like a hero coming in to save her rather than her just taking you for granted. No one likes it when gifts or favors are demanded from them. That's why we call people who do this spoiled brats.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/18 04:35 PM
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You changed it from 'her leaving the bag in the car and telling you to get it' to 'she wouldn't have to ask because I would offer first'. And you didn't answer which would feel better.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/18 04:31 PM
11

Expecting your wife not to degrade you isn't something that BP women usually complain about.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/18 04:19 PM
4

You are just changing the scenario to something else rather than answering my question.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/18 04:18 PM
1

I wish I could be how I want to be like If you are sincere maybe you could start by apologizing.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/18 04:10 PM
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That's not a good example because I'd absolutely let a woman pay for my meals. Can you use your imagination a little? Does this apply to stereotypically male duties as well? Like do you take for granted your partner will help you carry some bags, or fix things around the house, or protect you in a scenario where you're in danger? Yes of course. Imagine your wife struggling to carry in a heavy bag and you coming to help her. Now imagine her just leaving the bag in the car and telling you to go ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/18 04:09 PM
8

Because it is not pleasurable to give something to someone when they feel entitled to it. Contrast a woman expecting you to pay for her dinner vs. her offering to split the check or pay. You are going to pay for her dinner either way, but which would feel better?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/18 03:55 PM
11

How do you define open disrespect? Is saying no to anal disrespectful?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/18 03:43 PM
6

For men it is equivalent, but according to my own definition it is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/18 03:40 PM
11

They are not really rejecting the idea of being submissive. They are rejecting the idea that men are entitled to submission from their wives.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/18 03:19 PM
10

Not in my opinion, no.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/18 03:09 PM
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Yes. An analogous situation would be the wife not demanding flowers or gifts, but the husband giving her presents freely when he so feels inspired. Demanding something robs all pleasure from the gift giver.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/18 03:00 PM
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Yes, because these women believe that respect should be given freely by the wife and not demanded by the husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/18 02:54 PM
1

I think he will be loyal to you regardless.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/18 02:26 PM
1

80% of casual sex is being given out by 20% of the women too.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/18 08:41 AM
1

I think he will love you for being attracted to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/18 08:14 AM
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It's not altruistic. It's like this... "If I am friendly with this single guy he might think that I am interested in him and then I will have to deal with an extremely uncomfortable and annoying situation. I will be cold towards him so he doesn't get the wrong idea and try to ask me out." If he is in a relationship then you don't have to worry about him asking you out.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/18 07:49 AM
1

I have only ever dated my friends so I already know them pretty well before things got romantic. Additionally I don't think I could enjoy sex with someone I didn't love. The idea grosses me out.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/18 07:45 AM
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Sex with someone that I wouldn't have kids with.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/18 07:15 AM
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If he is married with kids, yes. Otherwise, no. They probably get more attention because men become safe once he has a girlfriend. Women can be friendly without having to risk leading the guy on.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/18 07:13 AM
1

If you like a guy and find him attractive, what makes him husband material and what makes him ONS material?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/18 06:44 AM
1

Are you a man?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/18 04:38 AM
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I would not fuck a guy that doesn't like me, regardless of his prior experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/18 01:13 AM
3

Then he doesn't like me that much. Why would I fuck a guy that doesn't like me?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/18 01:07 AM
5

Why casual sex specifically? What if I am in love with him and want a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/18 12:37 AM
1

Why don't you give Brolaf that same chance then?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/18 12:09 AM
9

Same reason you find it disgusting? I don't want to get attached to someone that has discarded women in the past and can easily do the same to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/18 06:02 PM
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It does not sound disgusting because they are just bots. A guy having casual sex with lots of women would be disgusting though.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/18 04:48 PM
1

No.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/18 04:17 PM
1

More accepting of the way women are?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/18 01:04 AM
1

Are Chads the actual nice guys because they don't hate women for being women?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/18 10:49 PM
1

Not all incels!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/18 10:17 PM
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I think a significant portion of men would love to see these women publicly executed. Them saying that they love sluts but just don't want to marry them is just a cover for their deep and utter loathing for women who have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/18 09:41 PM
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Men are more likely to experience this type of infatuation than women since they are the chasers and more loyal. Women move on from relationships easier. They dump one boyfriend and already have a new one ready to go. Notice most stalkers are men, not slutty women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/18 09:37 PM
1

There is no sexual component at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/18 09:06 PM
1

I have never had casual sex. Does that mean I find no man attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/18 03:27 PM
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I am a woman and I have a few exceptionally tolerant female friends. I talk more about guys and girly stuff with my female friends. My male friends don't hold grudges and are easier to please. It's 100 times easier to make friends with a guy than a girl for me. Up until graduate school I only had one female friend. During graduate school I made friends with the foreign women and it was much easier than with american women. Yes. I believe a lot of what men say about women because it has also been…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/18 04:57 AM
1

I don't see what is so bad about incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/18 04:40 AM
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By wanting it she is admitting she is an inferior being. That is why men lose respect for women that have sex. Especially with other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/18 11:29 PM
1

From my perspective or the man's?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/18 10:08 PM
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Doesn't it go like this? Being penetrated is something women do. Since women are inferior to men, being penetrated is an act of inferiority. If you concede to an act that admits inferiority, you are being submissive.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/18 10:01 PM
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If it was an option to impregnate men then you might have a case.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/18 09:34 PM
1

So can any man lol. I think that being penetrated just seems submissive because it is associated with women. There is nothing inherently submissive about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/18 09:30 PM
1

She has more power over the child regardless of what he wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/18 09:19 PM
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I don't see it that way. She has more power over the child.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/18 09:13 PM
1

That was the joke.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/18 08:23 PM
1

Are you programming in Fortran?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/18 05:36 PM
1

I liked it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/18 04:17 PM
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Being replaceable and having no innate value fall on opposite sides of the innate/earned value spectrum. If everyone from your sex has the same innate value, then you are easily replaceable. There is an abundance of young women and more are being born all the time. If you have to work hard to make yourself someone of value, then once you achieve this aim you become difficult to replace. Notice how badly women want to feel like she is special and want to be valued for something other than looks? …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/18 04:02 PM
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F.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/18 03:51 PM
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Why do you want NSA sex so badly? I have done this experiment myself btw with a Chad pic. There was only one girl that was down to fuck right away but most were not.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/18 03:49 PM
2

Oh look an escaped crab. Get em! /u/HeRoped /u/Khungghar
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/18 06:04 AM
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😠😠😠 What have you been doing?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/18 05:34 AM
2

So? Women want to get pregnant and have babies, usually more than the guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/18 05:31 AM
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I still don't get it. If the woman wants to be penetrated how is she submitting to the guy? Maybe if he says "I am going to get you pregnant now" and she is like "alright if that's what you want".
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/18 05:29 AM
1

Isn't that a bit circular? Maybe it's because we implicitly believe that femaleness is inferior to maleness?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/18 04:54 AM
2

How?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/18 04:22 AM
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Why is being penetrated the inferior role?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/18 04:09 AM
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The idea is equally as ridiculous though.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/18 03:33 AM
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Food penetrates my mouth but I am clearly superior.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/18 03:19 AM
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He engages with me. I like his concise and direct style too.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/18 03:01 AM
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Iulicelac!!!!! 😡😡😡😡😡
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/18 02:02 AM
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This was more interesting and less condescending.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/18 01:55 AM
2

You can back out now before I book the tickets.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/18 01:52 AM
2

"slave"
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/18 01:49 AM
2

/u/theiamsamurai He would sing me songs in Russian and I have already witnessed his top notch fire building and plant identification skills. /u/pinkgoldrose If we were stuck on an Island together she would have to be my friend. /u/hammerhaunts He would be a companion for pgr and be our cook. /u/HeRoped I know this is 4 but he can fit in my backpack and incels arent technically human anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/18 09:57 PM
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I liked the incels =( Bring them back!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/18 04:34 PM
1

I wouldn't mind be valued for my looks but the problem is that I'm ugly so....
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/18 09:05 PM
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COPE!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/18 08:19 PM
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changeistheway guy are the best of you fellas. Agreed.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/18 08:10 AM
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I don't known what that means.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/18 04:48 AM
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Because it's hard to love me.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/18 03:09 AM
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When I walk away they are just happy I am gone.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/18 07:56 PM
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I'm here for you if you need to talk.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/18 02:59 PM
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Not horrifying at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/18 02:57 PM
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No. Men loving a 30 year old doesn't give me any more hope for the future than men loving an 18 year old. But if she was in her 40's then maybe I could be loved when I am in my 40's too.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/18 04:54 AM
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If it's a stranger I feel indifferent. If it's someone I have feelings for I feel sad. Oops I misread your comment. If it was a woman older than me I would feel happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/18 04:26 AM
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To be fair I didn't have anyone obsessed with me when I was younger either lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/18 04:02 AM
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Even if they don't leave you they will never obsess over you like they will a younger women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/18 12:11 AM
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Are you dating ItsOver now?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 09:44 AM
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I empathize with incels, but when I try to help them not be miserable they hurl abuse at me. I empathize with trp guys in that they’re disillusioned, and I pity them for thinking cheap sex is the path to fulfillment; but they wouldn’t appreciate my concern. This isn't empathy it's a superiority complex. They are right to not appreciate your fake concern.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 02:58 AM
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of course not! =o
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 02:36 AM
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What bad character? He has been a consistently kind and loyal friend to me. He's never threatened to stop being my friend. He's never called me names. He's never gotten mad or annoyed at me for being myself. He stays true to his values even if it makes other people hate him. He stands up for both his friends and enemies when he believes they are in the right. Sometimes he gets mad at women when they male false promises, but why should I care about that?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 02:21 AM
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Girl threatens to commit suicide. Guy calls the police. Girl tells everyone that he doxxed her but leaves out the part about him trying to save her life.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 01:05 AM
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They are all like that except Atlas.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 01:02 AM
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Women will use your love for them to torture you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 12:56 AM
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No because all men are out of my league.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 12:38 AM
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It's nothing like him.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 12:33 AM
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No, that's not remotely like him. He doesn't hate the women that fuck him. He only hates them after until they make false promises and then leave him because it fucking hurts.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 12:33 AM
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He didn't dox you, he was trying to keep you from killing yourself. You left that part out when you told everyone he was a filthy doxer. Fuck you. You were cruel to the men who loved you and you were cruel to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 12:26 AM
1

Look how popular /r/TRPcore is.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 06:51 PM
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Her only flaw is that she is too perfect.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 04:50 PM
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Toxically masculine men aren't really any different than other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 04:36 PM
2

You seem to think that moralizing is what caused TRP to go to shit but that's the only thing that gave it relevance in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 04:13 PM
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I went from loving everyone to hating everyone does that count?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 01:03 PM
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Moral judgments, e.g. calling women evil whores, was the only reason TRP became popular in the first place. Outside of the internet, women's feelings are not only given preferential treatment to men's, but are often overly indulged at the expense of men's. (e.g. Spreading your legs on the bus to make room for your balls = oppressing women) Trp provided an outlet that not only let men express how they feel, but allowed them to do so at the expense of women's feelings. This was why TRP became popu…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 12:52 PM
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http://www.michelleschoenleber.com/uploads/5/4/0/4/5404776/wood___brumbaugh__2009_.pdf Consistent with the market force perspective on assortative mating (Hypothesis 1b), the consensus correlation was fairly high for both genders. For heterosexual male participants the mean consensus correlation was .62, and for heterosexual female participants the mean consensus correlation was .44. This corresponds to the finding that two heterosexual male participants agreed r = .38 on average in their attrac…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 12:28 PM
0

Stacy wants Chad and not me waaaah!.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 03:22 AM
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Don't go they will harvest your old used up parts for chicken nuggets.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 03:20 AM
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No I mean that they want any women until they get one then they change their mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 02:49 AM
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I am not even talking about Chads, but incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 02:33 AM
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I'm 34 and already obsolete.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 02:27 AM
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Because once guys have you they change their mind a lot. Make one too many mistakes and you become an undatable slut.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 03:18 PM
1

I don't either. When do you talk about iron shortages? Is there some secret chinese iron shortage subreddit you are on?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 02:17 AM
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😄 /u/hammerhaunts
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 01:58 AM
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+/u/User_Simulator hammerhaunts
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 01:47 AM
1

Is every single woman who sees your handsome face and wants to date you an outlier?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 01:08 AM
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They do, but they don't hang around incel communities.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 12:05 AM
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Indian men are great. I am like a 3 to white guys but Indians rate me 6+.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/18 11:45 PM
1

Plot twist. They aren't actually ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/18 10:42 PM
1

No. It was just kind of lame.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/18 08:47 PM
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😄😄😄
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/18 07:36 PM
0

Always believe women no matter what.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/18 07:18 PM
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You've rejected at least 3 femcels though. So good job on that. That's probably the whole reason Saba thinks she's ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/18 07:11 PM
12

How many have you asked out so far?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/18 07:02 PM
1

Does it show up as a link?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/18 09:47 PM
2

Endless Summer > 500 days of Summer obviously
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/18 08:42 PM
1

Will you judge a pair of pictures one with and one without makeup?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/18 02:02 AM
2

The original femcels got banned :(
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/18 12:07 AM
1

😈
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/18 11:50 PM
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Height I am 5'9" and he is 6'2" Yes I like tall guys. No, I don't think he cares as long as I am not taller than him. Age 34 and 34 Yes, I generally like guys close to my own age or older. Yes I think he was more attracted to me when I was younger.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/18 07:07 PM
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It has nothing to do with what I want, but what I've seen.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/18 04:50 PM
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I don't care what you think. I care what I have seen with my own eyes. Men do not like overly available women. Stop telling women how men act in relationships because we know better.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/18 07:51 PM
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I'm not falling for this. I believed men the first time but never again.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/18 07:01 PM
8

Nah, most men have a mix of alpha/beta characteristics. Divorce rates increase with increased alpha traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/18 04:34 PM
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You said it's not the same yet you said the exact same thing using different words. The only difference is the divorce rape part which is irrelevant since alpha men get divorced more than betas.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/18 04:29 PM
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You can be yourself and be just as needy and clingy as you want. You will still get A WOMAN to love you, just not the Stacy that you want. "Women like vulnerable men" is not the same as "women like men who are vulnerable to the point of hypoagency, neediness and clinginess and who are completely unable to do anything for themselves".
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/18 04:13 PM
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If you were to believe what TRP says, I could just be myself and men would still love me. They contrast male and female nature by saying that women hate vulnerable men, but men like vulnerable women. If you are saying that men just dislike too much vulnerability/neediness/availability then there is no contrast and male and female nature are the same on this front.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/18 04:01 PM
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This is not really dating advice but something I've heard from RP is that men tolerate or even like clingy women. This is very untrue. Men get turned off from vulnerability/neediness/availability so it's a bad idea to assume that you can be yourself in a relationship with a man. Men obsess over the women they can't have, not the woman that offers herself on a silver platter.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/18 03:37 PM
3

An anonymous person posting his "research" online is a study?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/18 04:19 AM
0

That isn't a study. It's a student who said he did research but where is the data? As far as we know he just made that up.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/18 04:17 AM
1

Pecks on the mouth yeah, but no making out.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/18 12:52 AM
1

his ex gf is hotter than me lol by a LOT. How do you deal? This would drive me insane.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/18 08:52 PM
3

Laughs at my jokes. Playful, childlike (in the best way). Loyal. Doesn't watch porn, drink, do drugs, or request threesomes/anal. His sweat smells really good and cures my headaches. Hates my family. Doesn't want kids. Doesn't kiss me or let me kiss him. Won't have sex with me unless I shave. Probably would prefer it if I were Japanese.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/18 08:33 PM
1

I would like to know this too.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/18 01:46 AM
3

Attractive people often look more approachable due to having resting friendly face.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/18 06:19 AM
1

Beautiful women yeah. But not women in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/18 08:32 PM
1

Yes but I wouldnt expect the same treatment since I am not as attractive as they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/18 08:02 PM
0

I think that men just love beautiful women so much that they give them stuff without expecting anything in return.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/18 08:01 PM
0

Yeah she is taking advantage of him for sure. Is that the same as manipulation though?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/18 06:48 PM
5

Why would women expect something that has never happened to them before?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/18 04:01 AM
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Women, beautiful women at least, don't have to manipulate men because men line up to give them what they want freely.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/18 03:17 AM
1

There are legal prostitutes.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/18 06:42 PM
11

When I wear makeup and dress nice men look at me longer.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/18 07:26 AM
8

You can visit a prostitute to satiate the biological impulse.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/18 06:59 AM
1

No men should only date women hotter than themselves and women should only date men uglier than themselves. Then everyone would be happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/18 07:37 AM
1

If you choose the one person option you will be a virgin until you meet him or her at age 26. Your previous dating experience will be limited and your partner themselves will not be model like. You aren't bitter but neither are you jumping for joy over your past. But that doesn't matter as they provide you with a love that lasts until you both die of old age. This one obviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/18 06:15 PM
1

I think it is very important.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/18 04:37 AM
1

I've heard guys say they have problems orgasming due to their death grip. That was the reason behind that question.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/18 10:28 PM
0

Males in general. And if you want to link any of that data here I'd like to look at it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/18 09:09 PM
1

yeah I didn't think of that
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/18 07:39 PM
4

I loved the scene in the car where they guy and the girl accidentally both reject each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/18 11:09 PM
1

I hung out with guys because they put up with more shit and the bar for friendship is lower.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/18 05:31 PM
2

Yes, but in both directions. The difference is what gives men status and what gives women status is different.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/18 05:10 PM
2

Both men and women are interested in the mates that will give them status. That's why certain races of women, single moms, fat women, uneducated, and promiscuous women are less preferred even among men despite men not being 'hypergamous'.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/18 01:38 PM
3

Okay that makes sense. But I still think it's a misnomer to call it hypergamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/18 11:20 AM
3

Interesting but it seems tangential to my point. Women cannot be hypergamous unless the male role of protecting and providing carries more weight than the female role of nurturing and caring. Otherwise we could equally say men are hypergamous for seeking a person more inspiring of love (using your words).
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/18 10:04 AM
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Implicit in your original explanation is that masculinity is better than feminity. Women wanting a masculine man is hypergamy, but men wanting a feminine woman is what? Hypogamy?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/18 08:44 AM
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Take a month break from reddit entirely, come back, and you'll see how stupid it all sounds.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/18 04:03 AM
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A man that approaches you has approached other women in the past. That makes you his second, (or third, fourth, ...) choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/18 12:33 PM
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I would get severely anxious and start preparing myself to get broken up with. No I would not find him sexier and would probably resent him secretly while pretending to be happy for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/18 04:43 AM
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In the extremes of height it breaks down either way. But in general 6'4" + average face > 5'9" + handsome face.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/18 10:01 PM
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Not to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/18 09:51 PM
1

Only in the world of hypotheticals
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/18 04:15 AM
1

Exactly. I'd break up with her just for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/18 08:48 PM
1

No indication that she would cheat but wants to vacation in Cancun?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/18 08:44 PM
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It's his kink and he asked for consent. I feel worse for his wife than the women in the hotel room.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/18 08:33 PM
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Was Louis CK really creepy? I didn't see anything wrong with his behavior tbh. He even asked for consent before he whipped his dick out.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/18 08:44 PM
1

I will take your stepson if you don't want him. He can be my real and only son.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/18 08:33 PM
1

Wouldn't status in a harem be determined by who was the favorite?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/18 08:32 PM
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If they did they would have avoided me even harder.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/18 08:31 PM
1

No guys my age wanted me!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/18 08:03 PM
1

Yeah, sure. My first boyfriend was an older divorced guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/18 03:54 PM
1

Lauren admitted she reported you though?
/r/MGTOW29/07/18 10:16 PM
1

How did she sort of admit it? What did she even report you for?
/r/MGTOW29/07/18 10:10 PM
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The overwatch girl reported you? When did this happen. You never told me this. You just said you were too busy to play with her anymore.
/r/MGTOW29/07/18 09:55 PM
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When did you get reported to HR? And for what? You barely talk to women.
/r/MGTOW29/07/18 09:45 PM
1

Are you hairy?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/18 03:08 AM
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That's dumb. Why are they even dating you if they don't like hairy men?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/18 02:09 PM
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Why would you shave!? Hairy men are great.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/18 01:54 PM
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I don't mind shaving. I just get annoyed when RPillers say stuff like "men love women for who they are" which is bs.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/18 05:10 AM
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Unpleasant associations is completely different than smelling bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/18 01:59 AM
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The smell probably.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/18 01:18 AM
2

Leg hair has nothing to do with hygiene. Men don't shave their legs and they aren't considered unhygienic.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/18 12:38 AM
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That has to do with hygiene.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/18 12:18 AM
2

So men only are attracted to Scandinavian women's natural bodies?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/18 08:38 PM
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One cannot exist without the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/18 08:22 PM
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Yes and that's the point. Men are not attracted to women's natural bodies. We are required to make ourselves into living dolls in order to get guys to like us.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/18 06:40 PM
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There is nothing unhygienic about leg hair.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/18 06:27 PM
1

Nothing gives her the right to lie, she just lies because it's beneficial to her in that moment.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/18 01:20 AM
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Yeah I am sure, but she would say anything to keep the ball rolling at that point.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/18 12:12 AM
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Yep.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/18 06:59 PM
4

Why is being cucked so much more traumatizing than adopting a kid?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/18 06:51 PM
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I do not believe that women ever say that unprompted. Maybe if you push them to say it, but if you have to push them then it's probably not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/18 06:50 PM
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She appreciates it in the context of a relationship, not as a stand alone experience. Women will say they don't appreciate being used for just sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/18 05:22 PM
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It's a primordial reaction similar to the disgust men feel at the thought of being cucked.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/18 04:34 PM
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She needs to keep the relationship going but not have sex, so that means going home with him but not banging him.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/18 05:17 PM
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Yeah but that's how you make friends with people. You hang out with mutual friends prior to dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/18 10:30 PM
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I think it's the preferred method, yes. Also the most common
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/18 09:02 PM
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Statistics say otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/18 08:58 PM
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Make friends with them first.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/18 08:57 PM
1

Loyalty is rare in general but more men seem to be unconditionally loyal than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/18 10:13 AM
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Well women are never satisfied with anything it's true, but you are wrong to think that she would have been more satisfied with someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/18 11:37 PM
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I am just appropriating the name.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/18 11:36 PM
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Correct. It's just a performance to make men like us.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/18 11:33 PM
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The only difference is that women want to be the Madonna and men do not want to be the BB. They would rather pump and dump a girl than build a life with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/18 07:41 PM
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Intelligence, self awareness, holding frame
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/18 04:47 PM
2

Is this Hopeful? Hi Hopeful!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/18 11:31 AM
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Men love sluts yet they don't want to marry them and they shame them on the internet while concocting elaborate revenge fantasies against them. Men HATE sluts. Nothing enrages a man more than him finding out his madonna wife was actually a slut.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/18 04:57 PM
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Well it is if you want to get married. You want to be the madonna not the whore.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/18 01:45 PM
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With sex if you are too sexual too fast he will think you are a slut.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/18 01:37 PM
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Cage gap. That's genius.
/r/MensRights15/07/18 01:25 PM
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Depends on what it means to be okay. Does it mean free of consequences? Then the answer would be yes. Does it mean acting in a way that doesn't hurt anyone else? Then no.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/18 12:55 PM
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It is not okay to do unkind things if you want to be a kind person.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/18 12:45 PM
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It is unkind. That's the only reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/18 11:18 AM
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You can only identify the obvious players.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/18 07:07 AM
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You have said it with so much conviction it must be true.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/18 06:30 PM
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It was a typo. I meant unavailable.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/18 06:29 PM
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Yes, you met him under ideal circumstances.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/18 05:03 PM
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For the Pink Pill https://www.reddit.com/r/Trufemcels/comments/8qy10h/we_need_a_repository_of_pill_pink_science_with_a/ There is more in the comments and I have a bunch more on my computer too.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/18 05:00 PM
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I don't know why you think they aren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/18 04:31 PM
1

These are pretty good tips, thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/18 02:27 PM
0

I just hear all about them online and I want to meet one.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/18 02:25 PM
0

I just hear all about them online and I want to meet one.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/18 02:25 PM
1

Yup! This scares me so much more than some obvious player type.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/18 02:25 PM
1

No I just hang out with incels and they aren't confident.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/18 02:23 PM
0

Male humanoids.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/18 02:21 PM
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Because when your guy becomes infatuated with the new girl he loses all interest in you. Don't believe moids who tell you any different.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/18 01:32 PM
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Yes except my dad.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/18 01:26 PM
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I wasn't talking about 'nice guys' dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/18 01:25 PM
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I find it hard to believe people can't distinguish between genuinely good people, and people that are just situationally being good for them. Well if you are able to then can you explain how? Yeah, pedophiles and rapists can do that too, to get into their target's pants. Does that mean they are very nice guys? I bet even the worst villanous mob/drug cartel godfathers flood their women with gifts. They're probably so nice they deserve a Nobel Prize and beatification, right? What? Doesn't this jus…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/18 01:23 PM
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So mister fizzy is seeing if your going to play along and I'm assuming it fizzles hard because your input is...minimal. At least that's my experience with women. Its the chick not wanting to dance at that point thinking her presence is sufficient. Its not No it's the opposite. When you are unavailable and hard to get they are throwing everything they got at you. When you show them interest or agree to date all of a sudden they feel pressured and leave. Ah, they should just get it then? I think p…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/18 12:49 PM
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Well find me one on the internet. I am not looking to date, but I would like talk to one of these nice men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/18 12:45 PM
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I think they exist but not in enough abundance to expect to find one. So maybe what you're really saying is you can't perceive the difference between "nice" men and "not nice" men. Which is different from "no woman can tell the difference" or "they don't exist at all". I can't tell the difference and I don't think most other women can either.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/18 12:30 PM
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Yes a lot of men do. They think it is easy to find nice men in abundance but women turn up their noses at them and date assholes instead. Do you think the situation that men face when dating women is any different? No.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/18 12:20 PM
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I wasn't talking about "Nice Guys", just nice men in the way you would typically mean it, e.g. considerate of other's feelings, unselfish, kind.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/18 11:28 AM
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I wasn't talking about Nice Guys at all, but the usual meaning of the word nice. You also say that there is no "[reliable] way to distinguish nice men from men that aren't", then you proceed to say that "there are no nice men" at the very end. I do not even know what you are trying to argue at this point. The title.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/18 11:27 AM
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I don't see why they wouldn't. Educational hypergamy has greatly decreasws and even reversed in many developing countries. Even if they don't formally marry these men they will remain in long term relationships with them. MGTOW isn't 'unwanted men'. It is men that don't want to be wanted. That's what it is theoretically but in practice these men tend to be those who had problems with women in the past. Divorced men, dumped men. Men that had to work too hard to get woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/18 04:55 AM
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Men make more money than women so theoretically all women can marry up. Women are also not opposed to marrying their equals either. The only thing that can actually halt this is MGTOW. Those men are mostly unwanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/18 04:20 AM
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It doesn't. Both men and women have equal agency.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/18 10:35 PM
1

What power does an individual woman have to stop other women from having casual sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/18 08:49 PM
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Men can curtail hypergamy by abstaining from casual sex and only marrying their equals.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/18 02:04 PM
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Which women are saying their husbands have flaws? There is one or two that say they wish he didn't have health problems and the rest are saying they like him how he is.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/18 01:51 PM
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Almost all of the women are saying they didn't settle and their husband is perfect.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/18 01:50 PM
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That's why it also works if you reverse then genders. Women can't be hypergamous without cooperation from men. For instance if men became equally selective and stopped pursuing casual sex, women would have no opportunity to be hypergamous.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/18 05:03 AM
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Give both parties equal agency.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/18 09:07 PM
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They don't have a negative view of most men. According to TRP men are inherently loyal, intelligent, empathetic, generous, selfless, and logical. Women are inherently dumb, manipulative, narcissistic, machiavellian, selfish, disloyal, opportunistic, and hypergamous.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/18 06:34 PM
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“saving men“ -> likes dating bad boys
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/18 01:48 PM
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To be fair she could very easily be lying about the ten pounds to make her side of the story more sympathetic. Just hunch but I bet she gained quite a bit more than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/18 01:29 PM
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I will pm you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/18 12:36 PM
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Can you help me?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/18 08:04 AM
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All men are polygamous, not just Chads.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/18 06:58 AM
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The exact same thing can be said with genders reversed.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/18 06:57 AM
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Not all the time. From what i see, these women are well aware that what they're getting out of guys like my friend is side piece action. Well I am talking about the ones that get married. The women must of saw them as marriage material, correct? So on one hand you agree women play their part in producing a disastrous SMP but on the other you're shocked that men have such a cynical view towards marriage? In the age of the hookup culture being the devoted husband is indeed a demeaning fool's game.…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/18 02:14 AM
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The women thought those alpha chads were marriage material if they agreed to marry them. And I agree that women have their own problems but it doesn't change the fact that men see being a husband as demeaning.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/18 01:36 AM
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Everything about your comment. A woman choosing a man to spend the rest of her life with, have his children, and grow old with is not only completely valueless to men but they actually find it insulting.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/18 01:06 AM
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I hate men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/18 12:20 AM
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.the only men who can get casual sex are really attractive and really charismatic. These men can find relationships easily as well. If you ask the woman you are having casual sex with for a relationship and she says no, what do you think that says about you? What if you have casual sex and she never calls you again?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/18 03:38 PM
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None of the above.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/18 05:36 AM
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Is femininity an act? Yes, for me it is. If so why do women do it? Because men like it obviously. What age do women learn to do it? After trying to 'be themselves' and seeing it doesn't work. Why do men fall for it? They like feminine women?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/18 03:41 PM
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Well I think the exchange of sex for resources is the primary female strategy given how common and universal it is across history and cultures. Monogamy is relatively rare and so is cuckoldry in the grand scale of things. What is not rare is a wealthy man acquiring many wives which he provides support for in exchange for sexual access. Note that the nucleus of a harem is not a sexy man, but a wealthy one.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/18 06:28 PM
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What about a willing exchange of sex for resources? Prostitution, cam girls, strippers, sugar babies, porn stars, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/18 06:10 PM
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Men aren't lacking in anything, there is just no emotional/visceral reaction to seeing a strange man regardless of how attractive he is.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/18 05:48 PM
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We give our virginity away for free instead of selling it for millions of dollars.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/18 02:13 AM
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Masculine is better than feminine but the ideal is some balance between the two.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/18 01:46 AM
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Well let's see RP men start defining hypergamy as 'wants a man more powerful than herself' rather than 'wants a man better than herself'. It will never happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 12:17 PM
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Women are poorer because they go into more people oriented careers. And I don't want a value neutral assessment. I want men to be consistent and either start calling women inferior or stop calling them hypergamous.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 11:37 AM
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Implicit in all of this is that being dominant is better than being submissive, being taller is better than being short, being richer is better than being people oriented, etc. This is just another way of saying that the traits men typically have are better than the traits women typically have.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 11:22 AM
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If you answer option 2 then you didn't really love the woman in question. Who would ever choose 'spend a couple months' over 'spend a lifetime' with the person you love? No one. Men make me sick.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 06:03 AM
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Well I treated him like shit, deadbedroomed him, and ultimately left him. But I learned a lot about men and relationships that I used to be a better girlfriend to my current boyfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 04:26 AM
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When I was 18 and a virgin because I was just happy to find someone that was interested in me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 04:18 AM
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Dread game is abuse. Why do you want to stoop to their level?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 02:35 AM
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Imagine if your husband stopped giving you hugs to punish you for not having dinner ready on time or not shaving her legs. This is your freaking HUSBAND dude. You are talking about punishing a guy you supposedly love by withholding affection and intimacy. That's straight up emotional abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 02:23 AM
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Only because women want one guy at a time. When men decide to settle on monogamy, they also become hypergamous.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 12:57 AM
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Men are both hypergamous and polygamous. They want the best they can get and also the most they can get.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 12:28 AM
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Why isn't it hypergamy when men select the hottest, most feminine, most agreeable woman they can get?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 12:03 AM
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That's what the honest RP men say, but there are still a lot that try to pretend they are good people.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/18 11:10 PM
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Yes. That's what I think too.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/18 10:51 PM
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Red pill men: "Men and women are different and each excel at their respective roles. Neither is better than the other." Women select men based on their capacity to fulfill the male role. Red pill men: "Women select men that are better than her in every way!"
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/18 10:38 PM
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It's the opposite. If you look at the now famous women are wonderful effect, the men who had the most sex also had the most positive delusions about women. The group who viewed women most negatively were men who had little to no experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/18 05:46 PM
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There is something missing because the way OP described it is theoretically impossible.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/18 12:19 AM
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Women. But for a woman to receive attention from more than one man at a time, it must mean men are pursuing multiple women at the same time. That's the only way it's possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/18 12:17 AM
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How is the situation you described possible? There are the same number of women and the same number of men. How can each woman have multiple possibilities unless the guys have multiple possibilities too?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/18 11:29 PM
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I also listen to what you say about your wives and it's not very flattering. I guess you don't really love her either.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/18 06:41 PM
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What are your values in all this?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/18 06:11 PM
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You aren't red enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/18 11:14 AM
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I can only assume since this explanation makes sense to you that this is how men compare their wives to past women they fucked. You should look at this study. http://sites.bu.edu/fisman/files/2015/11/BhargavaFisman2011_final.pdf Men are affected by attractive past partners and will rate subsequent partners lower. No similar effect for women was found.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/18 10:13 AM
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Why do men always think they know better how women feel than women themselves? YOU settle because you can't ride the plate carousel anymore. Not women. Casual sex with hot young coeds is YOUR imperative. Not ours.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/18 09:23 AM
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What would I warn my brother about exactly? That she had sex in the past? He already knows that. That the guitar player made her more turned on than him? Speculation with no evidence. That she is settling for my brother? Again, speculation with no evidence. I would have nothing to warn him about.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/18 05:29 AM
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I don't believe in BB so I wouldn't do anything. As long as she treated him well and he liked her I don't see the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/18 05:16 AM
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That's what you did to me though. I said that men want to have casual sex and you replied with 'not all men!'.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/18 12:13 AM
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Well we had an overweight woman on an incel server and she offered to fuck any of the guys but none of them seemed particular interested to make the trip to see her. It could have been that they wanted a relationship and not just sex, but that is what women say they want too and they get accused of being volcels. So to answer your question, yes women can get sex easier but this has about as much value to them as men being able to hire a prostitute easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/18 09:26 PM
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You have to consider the respective male and female sexual strategies though. Men want to be on the pussy carousel for life. Women have casual sex in order to find a long term partner. So you should mistrust a guy who has slept around in the past because he likely prefers no commitment sex and is only now settling. The woman is just finally getting the relationship she always wanted. This is the opposite of settling.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/18 09:14 PM
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We don't high five people that spend a lot of time and effort doing something stupid and trivial.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/18 09:04 PM
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He spent a lot of effort to become a slut. That's even worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/18 08:37 PM
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That's just speculation though. What kind of evidence do you have that you would believe this is true?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/18 05:44 AM
1

Thanks but OP seemed to have a study on people where they performed brain scans?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/18 08:34 PM
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Humans are a hybrid sexual species. We have members who are able to pair bond and form monogamous relationships, you can perform brain scans on certain people and analyze the way dopamine binds in the D1 and D2 nucleus accumbens and how pair bonding behavior emerges from this. Interesting do you have the study?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/18 07:27 PM
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Yes, but I don't think it trains men to be womanizers, players, and fucbois because they already were that even before they found TRP. They were looking for an excuse to follow their male sexual imperative and TRP provides a convenient way to take advantage of others while still believing yourself to be a good guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/18 07:04 PM
1

Find the things you like about it and focus on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/18 02:55 AM
1

I haven't seen it. Do I get points?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/18 09:29 PM
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I am awalt =(
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/18 08:41 PM
3

This is the best. https://youtu.be/FaOSCASqLsE
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/18 07:37 PM
1

There is a threshold for face so that if you are above a certain level any addition attractiveness does not make much of a difference. With height, there is no threshold, but attractiveness keeps increasing as you get taller. Also, I much prefer Adam Driver. Even his face is more attractive to me. James Dean has gracile features that I find too feminine.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/18 07:12 PM
1

Yeah for once I agree with you. It's liking working out. If you make it a habit it stops feeling like a chore and it actually becomes something you look forward to every day.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/18 05:36 PM
2

Fair, but why did you say that men don't police each other like women do? I don't think OP meant that men had to police the exact same offenses as women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/18 11:20 AM
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What YOU are demanding of men here is that they police each other the way women do Men do police each other though, e.g. numale cuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/18 09:59 AM
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for example, treating men like teenagers isn't that good an idea in a relationship if you don't really want to tank it; It is because if you don't take their mood swings seriously, you are less likely to escalate and have the problem snowball into something bigger. Also, you need to take responsibility for the relationship because most people (men included) don't want to do it. And if 'treating like a teenager' just means playful teasing, then that can't go wrong either. and "nun mode" as a conc…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/18 09:57 AM
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Abundance mentality, responding to shit tests, holding frame, being the prize, using the 2/3 rule of texting, nexting the first sign of disinterest or disrespect, not showing negative emotions whenever possible, dread game, holding back on emotional investment, not letting yourself fall into oneitis, monk mode, treating men like a teenager, finding slut tells, and the 48 laws of power can all be used by women on men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/18 09:13 AM
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How would you know?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/18 08:07 AM
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The only time I really see guys consistently socially police each other is against things that might be perceived as “gay”. Yeah. They police each other for catering to the female imperative or by being unmasculine by calling them a cuck, soyboy, numale, fag, doormat, or pussy whipped. And they praise each other for having lots of casual sex partners, playing women, and getting women to do degrading sexual acts, i.e. following the male sexual imperative.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/18 07:52 AM
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If you want to be logical, try to prove yourself wrong rather than trying to prove yourself right.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/18 04:41 AM
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These stories are so weird. How did the OP find out so many details about the married guy and his sex life?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/18 03:22 AM
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She mentioned that because someone asked "which would be a bigger turnoff for you" and making significantly more money wasn't an option.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/18 03:18 AM
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Yes, I wouldn't want a guy to make too much more than me either. I certainly wouldn't want him to be spending money on me.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/18 02:31 AM
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She also expressed an aversion to men that make more than her.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/18 02:20 AM
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So even if a woman doesn't exhibit hypergamy you still see her as an example of awalt, because of assumptions of what she might do if circumstances were different. In other words, you are trying to prove your theory is true, not false.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/18 02:13 AM
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Well now you are just making assumptions about what she might do under different circumstances. Not what she's actually done.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/18 01:57 AM
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/u/TheChemist158 do you also prefer a man who you can keep up with financially?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/18 01:27 AM
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Did she say that's what she preferred?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/18 12:56 AM
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Just read TRP and reverse genders.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/18 12:41 AM
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She has said in the past that she plans on contributing 50% despite what he makes. So she will always pull her own weight even if he ends up making more.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/18 11:00 PM
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Choosing a partner of equal socioeconomic status is homogamy, not hypergamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/18 10:41 PM
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Well I just gave my opinion. Disagree all you want it's not going to change my mind about her. And she's been with the same guy since I met her and he was the first guy she ever slept with so I think that counts as loyalty.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/18 10:14 PM
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She is more rational and loyal than 99% of the guys here. Nawalt.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/18 09:54 PM
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It's not open faced it's just sideways.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/18 09:47 PM
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I would be disappointed but I don't see it adequate reason to dump someone unless we had only been seeing each other for a short time anyway. I certainly don't think it's justification for cheating on him.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/18 09:45 PM
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I would fall in love with the prostitute lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/18 08:23 PM
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I don't see hypergamy or solipsism as a predominantly female trait.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/18 08:00 PM
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The ratio of males to female at birth is not fixed at 50/50 and can vary quite a bit in other species, but also in humans. If you kill all the men except one, and he starting having sex with all the women, the women that give birth to boys will be favored over the women that give birth to girls. A boy will have lots of women to have sex with when he reaches adulthood, but the girl will have to compete with all the other women for very few men. Therefore, the genotype that results in women giving…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/18 05:39 PM
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Ugh. Disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/18 02:26 AM
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They would look like gay men and I would be sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/18 01:34 AM
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Yeah no one forced me to read it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/18 08:56 PM
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It could be an unrelated problem that I'm not aware of, but I've always struggled with feeling inferior to men due to God and religion. I think reading TRP and how women suck reopened some of the old wounds that had only partially healed.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/18 08:52 PM
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No, unfortunately I am not.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/18 08:36 PM
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Yeah. Maybe this is just an excuse, but when I first starting reading TRP I was getting my PhD in physics and now I am dropout Neet on 4 different kinds of depression medications.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/18 08:26 PM
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She was but I think she's better now that she's not reading TRP and PPD.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/18 08:11 PM
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I also loved cats_or_get_out. She was a hero.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/18 07:09 PM
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dakru left? nooooooo!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/18 07:08 PM
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I talked to GreekLady recently. She is doing alright and hasn't committed suicide.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/18 07:05 PM
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I can't find the study, but about 7% of couples remain "in love" as evident through brain scans. Pure conjecture, but these seem to be cases of women with n=0 paired with naturals. Watched a documentary on this and that seemed to be the trend. Link to the documentary?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/18 09:49 AM
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Yes, those are some of the views I disagree with her about.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/18 09:41 AM
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I respect my friend /u/theiamsamurai because he is consistent, rational, and fair despite having some views that I strongly disagree with. He also has an intuitive understanding of people that I trust more than my own opinion. /u/Atlas_B_Shruggin is another person I respect because I think she is perceptive and wise. On personal matters I trust her advice the most, despite us having a fundamentally different world views. /u/fiat_lux thinks in the way I love the most, creative, logical, and criti…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/18 09:07 AM
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It's hard to see them as turn-offs without the larger context of how these qualities fit into who he is as a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/18 08:55 AM
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Maybe she'll show you his picture if you ask since she's shown it a lot on this sub. But yeah Chemist is literally the best. I would marry her too and no prenup required.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/18 06:23 AM
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He is not an alpha looking guy, I have seen his picture multiple times. Chemist is a NAWALT.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/18 06:17 AM
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I don't listen to rap and I still hate TRP. What now OP?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/18 06:54 PM
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Well if you are going to accept it for women, then also accept it for men. That's all I ask.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/18 11:05 AM
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True, but if evolutionary psychology has any merit, then all men are predisposed to want casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/18 10:24 AM
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I believe you but I would just like to talk to one of these women myself you know?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/18 10:04 AM
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Everyone always seems to know multiple women who are like that, but somehow these women never appear in person so that we can hear their narrative of events.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/18 09:37 AM
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Good job on convincing yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/18 05:34 AM
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Maybe they do, but how you react will determine the future course of the relationship. Perhaps your wife insulted you first, but you lost your claim to victim-hood status the moment you insulted her back.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/18 05:32 AM
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Because I thought men actually valued us for more than sex and it's disappointing to find out they don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/18 05:23 AM
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And it's usually reciprocal.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/18 05:11 AM
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In reality she desired him more than the Chad, because she was willing to have sex with him and only him for the rest of her life. You are nitpicking. I used desire in the exact same sentence.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/18 05:08 AM
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No I don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/18 05:05 AM
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Sex is part of the goal for women. Women do not want to be in a committed, sexless relationship. Men do want to have commitment-free sex however. So it's not symmetric.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/18 04:42 AM
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Yes, and I love you for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/18 04:40 AM
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You are wrong and it's evident in the fact that you can't give an explanation as to why I am wrong. You simply don't understand it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/18 04:37 AM
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Go back to the beginning of the conversation. We are talking about the number of marriages that end due to the woman's choice as a percentage of the whole, not as a subset of divorces.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/18 04:31 AM
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If you understand then explain how I am wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/18 04:22 AM
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We have kids with our husbands. We stop fucking other men for our husbands. We spend the majority of time with our husbands. We include our husbands in our families and introduce them to our friends. We make big financial decisions with our husbands. We choose careers based on our husbands plans. We move to be with our husbands. We cook and clean and sleep with our husbands every night. We elevate our husbands to the most important person in the world to us. We send our husband's mom a birthday …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/18 04:20 AM
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If you have 100 pennies and split them into two equal piles, then take 70% of one of the piles, how many pennies did you take? 35 pennies which is less than half.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/18 04:14 AM
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70% of 50% is 35%, a minority. And what percentage of those divorces are due to lack of sex? Probably an even smaller percentage.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/18 03:25 AM
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And also hammerhaunts is a unicorn NAMALT.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/18 03:22 AM
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Does high sex drive necessarily come with the guy wanting casual sex, anal, threesomes, and porn? In that case I'll take the other guy, even if he's less attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/18 02:03 AM
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The guy is lying to her about wanting commitment. She isn't lying to him because women actually do sexually desire their husbands despite how much RPillers try to convince us that we don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/18 01:57 AM
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All men are pigs except my boyfriend who is an angel and a unicorn and who loves me for who I am. That's what we think. When we talk about 'men' it's never about our man.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/18 01:40 AM
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The men are getting commitment and unlimited, exclusive sexual access for the foreseeable future. How is this a worse deal than a temporary arrangement where you get to dip your dick in her communal pussy until one of you gets bored or finds someone better?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/18 01:36 AM
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Where? Where would he ask “those women?” Where is r/askwomenwhosettledforbetasafterhavingtheirfun. If you can't easily find these women maybe it's because they don't exist in any significant numbers.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/18 01:31 AM
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If she would not commit to you it means that she doesn't like you very much. Why would this be a good thing coming from a woman you love?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/18 01:29 AM
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Maybe it depends on the woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/18 01:26 AM
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Maybe she thinks you are trying to sell her something? Why would she be turned off?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/18 12:46 AM
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No. You are wrong. That is your solipsism talking because you want to be Chad you assume that's what women want. We don't. Women are not men and the epitome of our existence isn't drunk sex with some hot skank.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/18 12:39 AM
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Yes we do. Don't tell us what we do and do not value. And RP men hamster why they should pursue casual sex which just happens to be perfectly in line with the male sexual strategy. But I sure they all tell themselves they were forced into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/18 12:34 AM
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Can you reiterate your original point? I don't understand what you are saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/18 08:57 PM
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Okay, then you don't love her if you only want to fuck her for one weekend.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/18 08:54 PM
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The husband-material guy is more sexually desirable to women. This is the guy we have kids with and are willing to fuck for the rest of our lives to the exclusion of everyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/18 08:42 PM
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If a guy loves me then why would he prefer to have sex with me once over a lifelong relationship with me?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/18 08:09 PM
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That's a new one. Did you mean the opposite?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/18 07:50 PM
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Surveys show that attractive guys are more likely to pursue/want casual sex. These are the guys who can supposedly get devotion from women due to their sex appeal. Yet they use their power to get casual sex, not devoted wives.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/18 07:50 PM
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Maybe but not all of those are initiated by women and not all of them are due to deadbedroom situations.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/18 02:26 PM
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You said that commitment from men was more valuable since they prefer casual sex. Men's preference is their true nature. By that same argument women having sex with betas is more valuable since she would prefer to have sex with a providing alpha. Her #1 preference is also her true nature and so any deviation from this is more valuable. (Using your logic)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/18 02:25 PM
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But you have sex in LTRs and people in relationships have more sex than single people so this still doesn't explain why men would prefer casual sex. It's not even the case that most LTRs are lacking sex. What does explain it is that guys prefer sex with fresh young women and are bored by the idea of fucking the same old hag for the rest of their life.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/18 02:20 PM
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That's not most marriages.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/18 02:13 PM
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Wanting sex and love aren't mutually exclusive but men would prefer not to have a relationship at all and thinks the best deal is just fucking fresh women all the time with no marriage or commitment or love.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/18 02:09 PM
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Except women don't want a committed relationship without sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/18 02:06 PM
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I only hate Red Pill men and strange men. The men in my life I love because they are namalts.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/18 02:04 PM
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And men would prefer to have casual sex with hot young women, but instead they opt to fuck sluts in their youth and settle down with a good girl. What's your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/18 02:03 PM
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I like cats.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/18 01:59 PM
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I don't think it's wrong, but I think it's wrong for men to lie to us about their intentions and pretend they like us when all they want us for is sex. Especially since when we have sex with them we become damaged goods and unworthy of marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/18 01:58 PM
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It's the weirdest. If it was just one guy saying it I'd think he was an idiot, but it's all of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/18 01:53 PM
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Most men would never spend time in a monogamous relationship with a woman if they are not getting sex from that relationship unless he has so little options that waiting for sex from that person leads to more sex than looking for a hook up outside that relationship. Studies show that men are willing to wait longer for sex if the woman is more attractive. I can link it here if you are interested. Also if what you are saying is true then it confirms my view that the majority of men only want sex. …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/18 01:52 PM
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So she gives him duty sex? That's still not desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/18 01:37 PM
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Why can't I be mad about biology?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/18 01:36 PM
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Different standards. And if you say these things to her in real life, then I don't see how that makes it any better.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/18 01:27 PM
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No I go by what you say. You in particular are horribly disloyal to your wife by talking shit about her online. I would never do that to my husband or boyfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/18 01:22 PM
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I don't. I don't think deadbedrooms are the status quo. I was only talking about deadbedroom marriages, which are the minority of marriages.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/18 01:21 PM
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Would you value the commitment of a man that commits to you only because you are the only reliable source of sex he can hold on to/thinks he can hold on to? That's all Red pillers and 95% of men and no, I don't want nor value their commitment. Does that change if the man has some specific trait on his body/personality/bank account/all of those that makes him attractive to you? No.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/18 01:17 PM
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She would prefer both sex and resources from the alpha, so giving the beta sex is going against her natural drive despite if she gets resources or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/18 01:15 PM
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Please explain the correlation between waiting for sex and love. If a guy likes the woman enough, he will want to be with her and spend time with her even without having sex. Sex is the primary source of emotional satisfaction/validation. That does not change whith children or with the duration of the marriage. So men will still value sex after 10 years of relationship and after they kids are born. (Again, there will be exceptions but I am not talking about them) Yes, but you act like she never …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/18 01:12 PM
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Then is having sex with a beta guy more valuable since it goes against a woman's natural drive to fuck alphas?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/18 12:53 PM
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Who is refusing to give their husband sex? You mean after 10 years of fucking him and bearing his kids and all the fighting and resentment that comes with a relationship, she is no longer in the mood? You realize that if she had married Chad the same thing would have happened, right? If a woman gave sex to "Chad" when he was bringing only his body and charm and then refuses to give his "Not-Chad" husband the same sex unless he brings some other value to the table then it is pretty much undeniabl…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/18 12:42 PM
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It's not alarming since I hate men and have no empathy for them. Why do you want me to empathize? Men like you are my enemy. Our interests are completely opposed and the best compromise we can reach is an agreement to avoid each other completely.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/18 12:34 PM
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Then is a man's commitment valueless since he would prefer to have commitment-free sex, and he only commits out of necessity in order to get sexual access?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/18 12:27 PM
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So how many Chads have you fucked? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/18 12:05 PM
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Not at all. pay with over commitment for a mediocre sexual devotion while Chad got the premium sexual devotion for free. This is exactly what I just said. Don't try to hamster it into something less. Plates aren't just "no talking no eye contact" sex. Well if you are doing boyfriend/girlfriend things together than that's even worse because then you are leading her on which Red Pillers swear up and down that they never do.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/18 12:04 PM
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Men get all their validation and emotional satisfaction from sex. Is that better?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/18 12:00 PM
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How is that phrased differently? You are saying that men see commitment as payment for sex. So commitment isn't a reward in itself, and the fact that the woman is committing to them (but not Chad) adds no additional value to their deal. They just want to be desired, i.e. they just want the sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/18 11:58 AM
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You don't get this as well. When they say they are getting a worse deal than Chad, they truly mean they have to pay with over commitment for a mediocre sexual devotion while Chad got the premium sexual devotion for free. Men wouldn't complain about men and women giving each other sex and commitment equally if women weren't giving more to some class of men. You just said the same thing I did in different words. This is a big misunderstanding from you. Men get companionship and other meaningful em…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/18 11:42 AM
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The most surprising thing I learned was that men are really into casual sex and don't value commitment or companionship from women nearly as much as they value kinky, meaningless fucking. They see relationships as something they pay in order to get sex, and not a reward in itself. Thus when they say they feel like they are getting a worse deal than Chad, it's because they have to 'pay' to have sex by being in a committed relationship with the woman. The fact that the woman is also giving them a …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/18 11:14 AM
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This is true though.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/18 10:34 AM
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I don't believe you, sorry. Maybe if they are just fat Stacys, but obese 3/10 women? Nah.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/18 07:27 AM
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The supply far exceeds the demand.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/18 07:26 AM
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Well I hear stories from my 3/10 fat friends and I see what kind of guys they go out with and it's not Chads. So I assume it wouldn't be any better for 2/10 obese women. Also, have you ever tried to hook up a non-Chad, even slightly below average guy with your fat ugly girl friend? It doesn't work. Not even incels want to date these women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/18 06:44 AM
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Did you tell her in the beginning that you would never get married?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/18 04:44 AM
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What was your longest relationship and how did it end?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/18 04:37 AM
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I have never seen a single real life case of AF/BB. I can't classify any of the men I know as alpha or beta. I don't see obese, 2/10 women getting with Chads. Niceness seems mostly uncorrelated with attractiveness. I don't see young men in relationships letting their girlfriend/wife walk all over them and then the woman divorcing/breaking up with him because she's bored with him. The majority of breakups I've seen are over alcohol, cheating, or constant fighting. Most incels are not even ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/18 04:30 AM
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Well it's like what I said. Women should not waste time on guys that aren't really into them, and find the guys that are. Other than that, do whatever it is they normally do to attract men e.g. look good, be fun and bubbly, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/18 02:20 AM
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I don't really understand the point of the post I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/18 02:11 AM
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Well I was ignoring the part about them just meeting yesterday since you changed the narrative in the comments to them dating for several years.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/18 01:04 AM
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Why not switch to long term mating then?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/18 12:55 AM
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EDIT: the point here is to know what women think the behavior of a friend should that she would end up married. Quickly next the guys that aren't that into you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/18 12:38 AM
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Why do you want these things in particular?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/18 05:34 PM
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I'm a 3/10 SMV, 1/10 RMV due to mental illness and I don't know if I've ever seen a 3/10 guy to know if I would date him or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/18 07:08 AM
1

Your husband was a high n-count guy, correct?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/18 06:54 AM
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The trend is low n-count with low n-count and high n-count with high n-count though.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/18 06:53 AM
1

lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/18 06:52 AM
1

I guarantee you have above average looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/18 03:48 AM
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Why would any woman want a hawt guy? We aren't gay men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/18 02:46 AM
3

Are more feminine eyes an indication of riding the cc or being chaste?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/18 02:39 AM
1

Some women will never be special to anyone because they aren't cute, fun, or talented.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/18 02:36 AM
1

Was your husband a player type?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/18 02:12 AM
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You were cuter, more talented, and funner than her. A Stacy in comparison.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/18 02:07 AM
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<3
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/18 02:03 AM
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Fuck, you are the Stacy that guys leave their girlfriends for. I bet he told his ex that he wasn't ready for a relationship right now and then immediately entered a relationship with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/18 01:44 AM
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I wish I could steal some of your self assuredness.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/18 01:16 AM
2

Yeah I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/18 01:14 AM
0

What if you knew that he had broken up with all 20+ women?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/18 01:12 AM
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I think women make the mistake of thinking they are special to a guy when chances are she's just another notch on his bedpost.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/18 01:03 AM
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I never thought that way until reddit. I started thinking about it because men continuously brought it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/18 12:31 AM
1

What if he was known to be a player?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/18 12:07 AM
1

Why do you prefer that?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/18 11:56 PM
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Oh yeah. I think that's a legitimate fear given the amount of incels that lament not being able to have casual sex in their youth.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/18 11:56 PM
1

Well in real life there would be no way to tell if he was honest with them or not. Maybe he was honest, or maybe he told them that he wanted to be exclusive just to have sex. Would you take the risk or go with the virgin guy instead?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/18 11:54 PM
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If he broke up will all past 20 girlfriends, wouldn't you expect him to break up with you too at some point? If he never wanted an exclusive relationship with any of the past 20 women, does this mean you are also okay dating a guy who does not want to be exclusive with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/18 11:47 PM
1

FOMO?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/18 11:41 PM
1

Like I said, assume that all 20+ women wanted an LTR with the guy and he either rejected them or broke up with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/18 11:30 PM
1

Ok, assuming that the women wanted at least an LTR with him, can you answer the questions in the OP?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/18 11:28 PM
1

NBD?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/18 11:26 PM
1

What if you knew he had broken up with all past 20 girlfriends?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/18 11:18 PM
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I think the biggest challenge for men is navigating the minefield of women's potential turnoffs. The second biggest challenge is finding a woman that is interested in them that they are also attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/18 11:00 PM
2

I don't mind, but I'll assume he is staring because it's so hideous.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/18 08:58 PM
1

Either men are less picky or men are less likely to settle. Pick one. You can't have it both ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/18 08:52 AM
1

Why do you think that is?.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/18 08:46 AM
1

Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/18 08:40 AM
1

It's calling out their bullshit. They call themselves universally undesirable yet refuse to date universally undesirable women. Either men are actually hypergamous or they don't actually believe they are as ugly as they claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/18 08:40 AM
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Yes men are honest, noble and never hurt anyone while women are all delusional lying cunts.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/18 08:35 AM
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It's not about her age it's about male hypocrisy. They demonize women for doing the exact same things they do themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/18 08:33 AM
1

Yes that's correct. What of it?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/18 08:31 AM
3

Secretly record an audio clip of her to analyze with software later.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/18 11:03 PM
1

She raises the pitch of her voice when she talks to you and laughs at all your jokes excessively.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/18 07:56 PM
1

Is he your favorite?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/18 06:34 PM
1

Your dad still chose to marry someone much, much younger than himself rather than someone his own age. So it still fits in the trend.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/18 06:33 PM
1

She's attractive but not as hot as the woman he fucked when he was younger.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/18 06:31 PM
3

George Clooney had fun fucking hot young women in his youth and then settled down with a post wall woman with good status and career.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/18 03:33 PM
2

Uh if there was a 25 year age gap it kind of supports OP's point.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/18 03:30 PM
1

I bet if you polled young men 90% of them would say Nietzsche was their favorite.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/18 03:27 PM
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Yeah. A mean that's why trophy wives are a thing right? You get a hot model to show off to all your rich friends. Anyway here is the part of the study. The first hypothesis, that men would flaunt and conceal, was supported (see Figure 1, Table 1): in comparison to men in the control group, men flaunted attractive women (d = 1.13, p = .001) and concealed unattractive women (d = 1.14, p = .001). The second hypothesis, that women would flaunt and conceal was partially supported: in comparison to wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/18 03:22 PM
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Men flaunted their attractive partners more and also concealed their ugly partners. Women flaunted their attractive partners but not as much as men. Women also did not try to conceal their ugly partners. So it seems that men get a bigger status increase.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/18 03:13 PM
0

Most men are assholes. You can't avoid them easily.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/18 03:06 AM
1

Looking at a list of issues and desires that people say they want out of relationships and going down the list to see what ive seen cause people to be loyal without the others. Also, which ones have I observed take place where all of the others were present and they were not loyal. Also, what is my perception of what I think shapes others' perceptions of the state of relationships? So you noticed that women are only loyal to attractive men? And men are only to loyal to attractive women? The dete…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/18 01:42 AM
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I am more interested in why you believe this. You can observe people cheating and people staying with abusive partners, so this doesn't need any explanation. However the reason why they do this is more uncertain. There are many theories we could come up with together. But I am interested in why your particular theory, as opposed to other possible explanations, resonated with you as true. Do you understand my question?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/18 11:33 PM
1

This makes sense, I can buy this theory.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/18 05:19 PM
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Well, I still don't understand, but it's good you are thinking about this stuff. It's just none of this stuff really explains the reason why you think that relationship problems happen because the woman has been with a better/hotter guy. It would make sense if you had experienced something similar, because then you might assume that other people feel the same as you. Maybe you are imagining that if you were with a hotter women, that other less attractive women wouldn't be good enough?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/18 05:15 PM
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You said you saw women cheating and being loyal to a guy while not in a relationship. Then you asked yourself why this might be and you looked at yourself. You saw that once you were with a hot women, you felt like you had to settle for other women. And that's how you came to the conclusion that these women cheated and were loyal because either they had been with another guy or they were with the best guy they could get. Is this correct?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/18 03:49 PM
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So you came to this conclusion about women because you saw it in yourself. I have heard the same from other guys here too.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/18 03:27 PM
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Is that how you feel with women? Once you have sex with a really hot woman no other women is good enough?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/18 02:52 PM
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but I have seen a man do all the things that women say they want from a man for them to still be unhappy or wind up cheating, Yes, this happens. but I have seen men who could not care less sleep with women who were supposedly faithful, Everyone is supposedly faithful, right? or have women faithful to them even without a relationship. Yes, this also happens, but I am having trouble connecting the dots. What brought you to the conclusion that the reason these things happen is because the woman had…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/18 01:14 PM
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What observations led you to believe this?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/18 12:29 PM
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I personally think that one of the most fatal things to a marriage is for the woman to have been with a man who pleased her in a way that her current man cannot compete with. Why would you think this?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/18 12:13 PM
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I would only agree to an exclusive fwb situation. Once he found another woman, I'd move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/18 11:28 PM
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1.0 Yes I am hornier when I am on my period. 2.0 I would break up with him for being with other women. 2.1 I mean if he is ignoring me for a week at a time it doesn't really matter what the reason is. I would break up with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/18 10:43 PM
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Yes, objectification is part of male sexuality and I don't think it's a particularly unfavorable aspect of male sexuality either. It means that as a woman, I can easily and consistently arouse men by just having the necessary parts. Compared to the extensive female requirements for sexual arousal, I think we got the better deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/18 08:07 PM
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Excess femininity, e.g. I find out a guy spends a lot of time taking care of his appearance, especially his hair. Lack of self awareness, e.g. he strongly criticizes someone else for something that he does too. Excess amalt, e.g. he wants anal, he's obsessed with casual sex, he likes asian women, he mocks fat women, he likes very young women, he watches porn that features a woman that's not like me, he follows hot chicks on instagram, he likes the Joker from Batman, Friedrich Nietzsche is his fa…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/18 07:01 PM
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Here is a related study. Men produce more semen when exposed to pictures of novel females. https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s40806-015-0022-8 When males were exposed successively to the same female six times, we saw no change in ejaculate parameters between the first and sixth exposures to the same female. However, ejaculate volume and total motile sperm count significantly increased when males were exposed to a novel female. Time to ejaculation also decreased significantly upon exposur…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/18 12:38 PM
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It likely wouldn't matter at all. If he was just overweight though, that wouldn't be enough for me to completely lose attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/18 12:29 PM
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pretty sure i can find a study saying the opposite (like high value women sleep around with rich men ...are high value and rich women celibate because nobody meets their impossible standards? Okay, show me the study. that if every other woman is throwing sex at a guy maybe throwing more sex at him won't work Unattractive women don't have much of a choice. And it eventually works for them. They just have to suffer through a lot of failed attempts before they find a guy that sticks.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/18 12:25 PM
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For instance: Have you known men which you would never consider dating options, who then changed in some way and then became attractive to you? What happened to change your view? Yes all men start like this. What changed is I got to know him better. Alternatively: Have you ever dated someone, initially been attracted to them, lost attraction due to some trait appearing (for instance, neediness) during the dating process, Yes, this is common. It happens to almost every single guy. and then regain…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/18 12:15 PM
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So how do women go about getting commitment from a man how who has no reason to commit? They have sex with him and hope for the best. Do they wear makeup, dress sexier and flirt more obviously? Not anymore than they would for any other guy they were interested in. Do they actively approach? No, not usually. Is there a difference in methods between average women and high value women? Yes. Low value women have to use sex to attract men. High value women can have sex on their own terms. This is evi…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/18 12:10 PM
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Yeah, definitely. I know you were making a point, but I don't think guys should come clean about cheating if they want to keep their current relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/18 01:57 AM
1

The relationships where women do this last longer than the ones where women don't though.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/18 01:48 AM
1

They have higher testosterone?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/18 09:00 PM
1

Why is that?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/18 05:35 PM
2

Why are pillosphere men so obsessed with casual sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/18 05:31 PM
2

By thinking about his positives and the reasons you want him, it makes the relationship stronger.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/18 05:20 PM
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Accept that true love is dead and hookup culture is only going to be available to the top 20% of men. Why are men so obsessed with casual sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/18 08:35 AM
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This is like the female equivalent of a man changing a flat tire for a woman on the side of the road.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/18 12:08 AM
1

Degenerate.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/18 07:20 AM
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You are a slut.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/18 06:20 AM
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Nah, it's biology. Men want to impregnate as many women possible without any investment. Women avoid this because pregnancy and child care automatically comes with big costs for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/18 02:56 AM
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Yes I am 100% sure. Every study that I have ever read confirms this. Also, you can see for yourself that most guys are interested in casual sex online. They obsess over it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/18 12:27 AM
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I don't think that's true in general. Maybe for a particular woman, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/18 12:26 AM
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The number of men who want casual sex is clearly larger than the number of women who want casual sex though.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/18 09:23 PM
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An individual woman can say no, but if other women are saying yes than that woman has priced herself out of the smp. Women try to get other women to say no through slut shaming but it'd not enough to eliminate it entirely.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/18 08:09 PM
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It can't be high maintenance, overly styled, or a skinhead. I don't like blond or red hair as much as black or brown. Other than that I don't care. I don't mind natural baldness, receding hairlines, or grey hair. All men meet my standards for hair if you don't include styling. If you include styling, maybe 85%.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/18 06:54 AM
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I am worried he will no longer be able to do the things that makes him happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/18 05:18 AM
3

There is no difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/18 06:51 PM
2

Well they are 25+
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/18 03:06 AM
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No one, it's just obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/18 02:40 AM
2

Love = lust for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/18 12:58 AM
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Yeah I agree. A man with alpha mindset that pretends to act beta in order to have sex is my worst fear. There is no counter that I know of. With RP men you can just not have sex and they will leave. With guys playing beta game they can wait it out and pretend that it's because they respect you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/18 06:37 PM
5

A woman can't be loved under the same conditions either unless she's hot and young.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/18 05:37 PM
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Why are men obsessed with the Joker from Batman? Every guy under 30 has a "Why so serious?" tattoo or poster on his wall.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/18 06:34 AM
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Most guys don't make enough money to buy a woman that is likely repulsed by them. But when they do, they don't usually care e.g. Donald Trump, Hugh Hefner.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/18 12:18 AM
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I have been in a relationship my whole adult life so yeah, it's always been true.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/18 07:35 PM
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Also "here's my number for when you break up"
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/18 07:30 PM
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I don't care about marriage but I would have to know he likes me enough to spend the rest of his life with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/18 03:51 PM
1

But it is insecurity. Why not call it what it is? Just because the accusing party intends to shame you doesn't mean you need feel shame.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/18 03:43 PM
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What is so bad about being called insecure? I want a low n-count man because I am insecure that he will dump me like he did the last 6 women. Hot, high value women probably wouldn't care. Why do Red Pillers take offense at being called insecure?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/18 02:52 AM
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Insecurity in general tends to make people mean because they take preemptive defensive measures that end up hurting the other person.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/18 12:24 AM
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5
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/18 09:15 PM
2

This is true. You teach people how to treat you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/18 06:54 PM
1

I know better than you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/18 01:46 AM
1

Well I read most of it and I still don't understand your point.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/18 01:46 AM
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Because you are forcing them to make an immediate decision on the spot. And when they don't know you well they assume you just want sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/18 01:31 AM
1

I sort of read it but can you give me a TLDR?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/18 10:17 PM
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No we don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/18 10:16 PM
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Would you describe yourself as a feminist? No. Are you married/LTR? Yes. If you could have sex with any Chad type man, no accountability, would You? No. Do you automatically feel attraction to Chads? No. Ew. In your dating history, what sort of men has you gone for? Men that live at home with their parents as long as possible and play a lot of video games.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/18 09:32 PM
1

Why do we have to be literal with this one specific subject when we use 'terms of art' for every other topic discussed here.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/18 09:27 PM
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No we don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/18 09:26 PM
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You didn't ask a second time. You just edited your comment to put the question along with more stuff. You know that people can see that you edited your comment, right? where did you get the info on "5X a month"? https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10508-017-0953-1 https://www.jstor.org/stable/353919?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents WHere did that come from in the blurb you linked to? https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/0092623X.2011.560531?src=recsys&journalCode=usmt20 We talk a lot i…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/18 09:25 PM
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I read it again. My comment still stands. Did you even read mine?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/18 08:38 PM
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The majority of men were sexually satisfied too. 87% of men in the 25-34 age bracket said they were fully satisfied. And the average amount of sex was 5 times a month, not every other month. Additionally, you have no way of knowing how women feel about their husbands. You just pulled that from thin air.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/18 08:24 PM
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The majority of couples are sexually satisfied. https://imgur.com/a/tjvLHXx
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/18 07:56 PM
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Men don't respect women who have sex. How can you deny this?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/18 04:33 AM
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Stuff like this exists because women look forward to commitment and men see it as the end of all their fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/18 04:14 AM
1

Same reason why men say it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/18 04:01 AM
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I hear men saying they want to experience wild sex when they are young and find a nice, dependable girl later. I hear this more often from men than I ever hear it from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/18 02:28 AM
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Well that's what it originally meant, but a lot of women have noticed that men tend to classify women as either a good girl or a slut. Why can't we use the same terminology to talk about this? Red Pill does this all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/18 11:22 PM
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No. "I found out my wife had anal before I met her and now I can't look at her in the face any more."
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/18 09:47 PM
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I here Rpillers reeeing about it more than bloops.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/18 07:31 PM
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No. Men feel legitimately betrayed if they find out a 'good girl' has had sex. All this time they were thinking of her as a Madonna instead of a whore. This enrages men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/18 07:03 PM
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Women will know what I'm talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/18 06:59 PM
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Men cannot respect a woman once they have sex with her or find out that she's had sex. In relationships it's important to act like you don't want sex and never initiate to try and keep your husband respecting you as along as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/18 05:46 PM
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I don't care if they can dance, just that they are willing to dance. Even then it's only a nice perk, not a requirement.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/18 01:54 PM
2

Have you noticed if beta men are any nicer than alpha men?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/18 06:51 PM
1

It's men that push for casual sex, not women. Women just didn't want to be judged for something that men beg and plead for. We give it to you and you repay us by shaming us.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/18 06:37 PM
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What does it matter if it's harder? I am saying it's morally wrong to have sex with someone when you know it will damage them for life. It's just like if you have AIDs you should inform your partner before you have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/18 02:08 PM
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Before you have sex inform them that this disqualifies them for future LTR's.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/18 02:06 PM
1

Well according to red pillers, wait til you are 30 and some woman will marry your for comfort and security.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/18 06:58 AM
2

It said this in the OP. Or if the hot chicks considered it hilarious/a joke to their other female friends?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/18 06:46 AM
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Comfort?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/18 06:44 AM
2

What if she goes around telling all her girlfriend that you suck in bed and have a small penis?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/18 06:16 AM
1

What about for your money?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/18 06:15 AM
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Casual sex is more mainstream and accepted now, so women think that those days are long gone. Informing a woman that sleeping with you will have long term, irreversible consequences before sex is just as obligatory as telling someone that you have an STD prior to sex. I am sure people with STDs rationalize not telling their partner by thinking "everyone is aware of the risks" too. It's a way to not feel like a bad person while still actually being a bad person.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/18 06:11 AM
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Yes exactly. That's why I think it's morally wrong. It's like concealing the fact that you have herpes because you know the person might not want to have sex with you because of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/18 06:06 AM
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If they already know, then why are men so resistant to tell them?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/18 05:15 AM
1

Well the men in this thread are saying that her partner count makes her undesirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/18 05:12 AM
2

Do you think that if a woman has an STD she should inform the guy before they have sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/18 05:02 AM
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If a woman has an STD she should inform the man before they have sex. Especially if it's something incurable like herpes. Men pass on the 'slut' STD, which is incurable, so they should inform the woman beforehand so she can decide if sex is still worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/18 05:01 AM
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Guys don't seem to care. They would rather date a girl with 2 partners that cheated than a girl who slept with 20 men while single.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/18 04:40 AM
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You aren't addressing my point at all. I am saying she should make the choice, but it should be an informed choice. You don't think it would be ethical for a credit card to hide the fact that interests rates spike after the first 6 months correct?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/18 04:38 AM
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I agree she can make a decision for herself. But it needs to be an informed decision. Feminism has been lying to women about the consequences of casual sex, so I think Red Pill men are morally obligated to tell the women they sleep with of the consequences of their actions prior to sex. Then she can make a decision whether or not she wants to take the risk. It's like cigarettes have warning labels to inform adults of the consequences. Red Pill men should have women sign a release form to ensure …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/18 04:29 AM
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They know some men will judge them, but they don't know the extent. Feminism has fed them the lie that sex is natural and fine. they think everyone believes this and don't realize that men are secretly judging them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/18 04:18 AM
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Adults are entitled to make informed decisions. You just need to inform her prior to sex of the consequences. Then she can decide for herself.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/18 04:17 AM
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She doesn't know. To absolve yourself of any blame, you should tell her prior to sex that the act will increases her sluttiness and that men (including yourself) will be less inclined to commit to her as a result. Maybe you could have her sign a release form. Then you would be freed from all responsibility and her actions after that point are on her.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/18 04:16 AM
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Because he knows that it hurts her, but she doesn't. He could at least say "You realize that by having sex with me, me and other men will see you as a slut and be unwilling to commit to you." Then at least she can make an informed decision.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/18 03:49 AM
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They don't know it will hurt them. They don't think men will judge them for having sex. RPillers know the truth though. That's what makes it their responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/18 03:48 AM
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Each additional n count will make her less desirable for a LTR.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/18 03:40 AM
3

By having sex with her you are making her less eligible for commitment. How does it hurt the fuckboi?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/18 03:39 AM
4

You are damaging a woman by having sex with her then.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/18 03:36 AM
5

There is another group. Men who underestimate their SMV and are too afraid to approach women because the Black Pill or the Red Pill told them that women only want 10/10 GigaChads.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/18 03:11 AM
2

90% of the incels I've talked to have had some sort of romantic interest from women but they didn't capitalize on it for whatever reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/18 07:50 PM
1

The little kid in the background.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/18 07:46 PM
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but we are actual women who have dated actual men and they have done it
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/18 05:31 AM
2

Yes. Men do not see women as people. If you want proof of this ask a guy what a woman is probably thinking or feeling in a certain situation. Then ask them what they would think or feel in that same situation. Compare and contrast the results.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/18 05:27 AM
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That's not how it happens. A guy has no options for a long time, then some good enough girl comes along. He thinks why not since he has nothing better right now. At least he gets to have sex. Then a better girl shows interest and so the placeholder girlfriend gets replaced. This doesn't happen with women because they don't mind being single and don't enter relationships just for the sake of having a relationship. Women don't settle because they don't have to. Men settle because they are starved …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/18 05:27 AM
5

My view is based on what men tell me. Multiple men have told me that once they get a new woman they don't feel bad about their ex any more. Even TRP recommends it as a way to get over oneitis. If you have multiple plates you can easily replace one with the next and it makes no difference to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/18 05:11 AM
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Women are like cars to men. If the dealer offers them a Mercedes for their Toyoto of course they will take it because we are just objects to them. They can exchange one of us for another woman and not even feel sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/18 03:16 AM
1

I don't think incels actually care about sex that much. It's more about the status and validation that comes from having women sexually attracted to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/18 02:51 PM
1

How are women demanding commitment?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/18 02:39 PM
4

Most women get married long before being middle aged though. And women are happier if their partner is less attractive than them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/18 01:55 PM
2

Why can't incels offer commitment and get a girlfriend easily then? Women can offer sex and get a taker easily. Men can offer commitment and no one will care.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/18 01:29 PM
5

Then why do middle aged women end up in committed relationships with low value men after they're worn out? They don't really.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/18 01:18 PM
2

I wonder if it has something to do with them having their own unique language.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/18 04:44 AM
3

Okay, how did it negatively affect you Lewis.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/18 01:38 PM
3

Why would anyone think about their partner's flaws? It's none of my business. It's my job to love him not critique him.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/18 01:19 PM
3

I wish he wasn't quite so amazing so I wouldn't feel guilty being with him. =P
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/18 01:06 PM
1

Lol no. None of them had that kind of OCD. It was either counting or fear of germs/bugs.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/18 06:13 AM
1

Don't care really but if i had to choose it would be untrimmed/unshaven.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/18 05:43 AM
2

All three of my boyfriends have had it, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/18 03:35 AM
2

Guys with mental illness, especially OCD.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/18 02:38 AM
2

Same!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/18 10:51 AM
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