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/r/sex
/r/seduction23/03/16 06:18 PM
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Yeah I feel like I am getting better at that. I definitely made references and teased this girl I went out with the other night (she said she's terrible at mario kart but is actually a good real life driver - I immediately expressed my doubts about that) and also made fun of her for her dedication to her plants (she gave them names from Harry Potter lol). I get what you are saying though! Thank you for the feedback. I think I will get better with practice and more exposure to flirting since I th…
/r/seduction11/03/16 07:54 PM
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Same, I would like some more information/tips on the latter (conversation leading to attraction) as well
/r/seduction11/03/16 04:08 PM
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If you'd like to talk about it and help each other out, let me know. I'd be more than happy to PM and see where it goes. I think that having someone else along with me on my journey would be great!
/r/askTRP25/02/16 09:59 PM
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Thanks! I will try. I'm grateful for every day since it gives me the chance to improve. I value your feedback, it's been helpful. Best of luck to you as well.
/r/askTRP25/02/16 08:40 PM
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I've read up on monk mode...and I really don't understand how it's any different from what I'm doing now haha as I'm eating much healthier, working out 5+ times per week, cooking, and doing other activities. Maybe that would be a good idea as far as the sponsorship goes. Like I said, this is kind of a small area that I live in where there aren't many young professionals like myself. It's hard for me to go to meetings consistently as I do have a pretty busy schedule most days. I am not necessaril…
/r/askTRP25/02/16 08:31 PM
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Yeah I definitely am trying to work on it - I don't know if I'm going about it in the most effective way or making as much progress as I would like. Do you have any ideas for how I could put my progression into perspective? I think I just get discouraged when I see average looking dudes with a cute girl and I don't understand why I struggle so much when it seems so easy for everyone else! I'll try and attend some future meetings when I can because they do help
/r/askTRP25/02/16 08:19 PM
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Thank you so much. That is very true. I just feel like all the hard work I've been doing has not paid off yet at all (no girlfriend/plates, no new friends really)...but I'm hoping that it will eventually. I even ended a relationship I was in earlier this year because I was simply not happy and my girlfriend at the time was not treating me the way I thought I deserved to be treated. In fact, that breakup led me to really pushing myself out of my comfort zone and trying to become more social so I'…
/r/askTRP25/02/16 07:56 PM
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Thanks so much. I honestly got tears in my eyes reading that part...because I really don't feel worthy of being loved and it's hard to accept that I'm worth the same as them - because it just seems like society places so much value on our appearances (especially attractive, young girls - I also live in a college town). I just don't know how to not put them on a pedestal since it's something I've done my whole life, and it's easier said than done for me. I know they are regular people but my brai…
/r/askTRP25/02/16 07:42 PM
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Thank you. I have gone to CODA meetings as well as ACOA meetings and they have helped somewhat, unfortunately they are not really nearby me (30-60min drive). I feel like meditation and practicing my social skills have helped, but I still feel that at my core I am trying to please people and make them like me. I do fear rejection and what others think of me which is obviously going to inhibit my growth towards TRP principles. I think that my past does make me more in tune with others emotions - w…
/r/askTRP25/02/16 07:36 PM
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I have read this, as well as Models. Both very good books and strikingly true for someone who is afraid to share their feelings and be unapologetic for their actions and behavior. I just constantly live in fear of what others think of me...even today. I'm slowly getting over it but I don't know if I ever will completely conquer that fear.
/r/askTRP25/02/16 07:31 PM
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This is also a great idea. Love the drive-in movie theater
/r/seduction23/02/16 05:33 PM
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I would probably go somewhere either before/after the movie date i.e. food, ice cream, a walk in the park, coffee, etc so you have more opportunity to talk and get to know each other. A movie is just not a good first date choice since you can't really talk or kino much besides awkwardly holding hands or something.
/r/seduction23/02/16 04:50 PM
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Thank you for your responses - I will check it out. How did you get over your people pleasing ways? I still just fear rejection at my core and I am just afraid to approach and I really hate it. I don't know exactly what the root cause is...I guess I just have never felt good enough for really cute girls. I think I am decently attractive, but I was born with facial paralysis so that has always been something that has made me feel different from others and just not good enough to be with a beautif…
/r/TheRedPill22/02/16 10:10 PM
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Do you have a car? Maybe go ice skating, go to a museum, take a walk/hike outside (if it's warm)...something fun and where you can kino and talk and learn more about each other. I'd stay away from dinner/movies for now
/r/seduction18/02/16 04:20 PM
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Massage breasts/nipples and intensify making out. You should hear her breathing pick up and maybe some moaning taking place. I would then put her hand on your dick and also rub her through her pants and soon enough clothes will be flying off. Guaranteed
/r/seduction17/02/16 08:46 PM
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Pretty sure cooking dinner for him would fall under treating him like a boyfriend category but that's just me
/r/seduction17/02/16 07:39 PM
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In the same boat as you OP, it is quite difficult especially when I'm working full time and doing various other things
/r/seduction17/02/16 07:36 PM
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I have read it and started to read it again. I thought it was great but haven't really had much more success since reading it.
/r/TheRedPill12/02/16 04:20 AM
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I have issues with being a people pleaser that stem from my childhood - and things I am still working on. It's the only way I knew how to survive back then was to make sure everyone liked me and I never rubbed anyone the wrong way - this has stuck with me to this day (I'm 23 now) especially with beautiful women. It's not easy to overcome even with a DGAF attitude or "fake it til you make it" which I never understood. I have a lot more self confidence now but I still feel like I want to please wo…
/r/TheRedPill11/02/16 06:49 PM
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Agreed, thanks man. Sometimes I know that I haven't escalated properly so I know that the kiss probably won't happen haha but like you said just play it off and move on - because I'll probably never see them after that night anyways so I've really got nothing to lose. Appreciate your feedback brother
/r/TheRedPill05/02/16 09:53 PM
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Good FR man. I need to work on a lot of things you mentioned in here such as push/pull and escalating without asking/seeking permission. I don't go on many dates (as I live in somewhat of a small area) but I think I've gone on a lot where I gave off too much of a friendly vibe because I was afraid to escalate. Thanks for taking the time to share!
/r/TheRedPill05/02/16 09:28 PM
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Thanks for your reply. I am still learning a lot even though I mostly just need experience. In my current situation it's somewhat hard for me to meet girls (I work 9-5 in a somewhat small town - even though it is a college town). I will try to play up my masculinity when I can. I'm not good at the whole "pick up" thing haha but I think I am still afraid of failure which is not a good excuse. I need to get over it and improve my interactions with women. Sorry for rambling but I appreciate your ad…
/r/seduction03/02/16 01:38 PM
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I'm not sure I exactly follow what you mean. I'm not really into the whole "pick up" thing but I do think some of the information here is useful. How should you make them feel more feminine?
/r/seduction01/02/16 02:12 PM
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Congrats on getting a kiss on your first date ever, I know I didn't pull that off haha. As far as how to proceed - I would just text her some day and say "are you free ___day? We should meet up and grab coffee/dinner at X pm." - or whatever you want to ask her out to do. Could be bowling, ice skating, whatever...something fun. Just give her a day and time to meet, because you will never get a straight answer if you ask them when they are free.
/r/seduction22/01/16 05:34 PM
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You're solid bro. Just relax and escalate
/r/seduction06/01/16 03:48 PM
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/r/askseddit /r/highseddit
/r/seduction24/12/15 02:24 PM
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No problem! I'd suggest seeing a counselor/therapist about your anxiety - I used to be the same way...always feeling like we needed to be talking or whatever. How I deal with the silence is I'll just think about something else, or look my gf in the eyes and smile. It really doesn't feel awkward since we have a lot in common. Maybe the reason you are so anxious is because your ex broke up with you for a pretty stupid reason (there's no way you can have a relationship without some form of silence …
/r/seduction09/12/15 07:17 PM
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Agreed with Richralph...if you are shy/nervous to ask her out on a date when you are already a couple, that's just unneeded anxiety and stress! Just tell her what you want to do and ask her to come with. Me and my gf have been dating ~1 month too and we have a lot of awkward silences and sometimes not a lot to talk about, but we are very open with each other and communicate about when we are free (we both work full time so it's hard some times). Some ideas for things that we've done recently tha…
/r/seduction09/12/15 06:46 PM
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Just do what feels best. I would probably text her the day before and say "Hey 8pm (or whatever time) works best for me for tomorrow night. Let's grab a drink then" and if she can make it she will agree, otherwise she should let you know if it doesn't work for her. Anyways good luck!
/r/seduction23/11/15 05:17 PM
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/r/askseddit
/r/seduction23/11/15 04:03 PM
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This - you just need to have fun and enjoy the music, do whatever you feel like. Girls will see this and you will end up dancing with someone no doubt. Just go out with the intention of having fun not trying to grind on girls or make out/etc. Be outcome independent
/r/seduction17/11/15 08:54 PM
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So by close, you mean F-Close correct? I would say you definitely need to convey your attraction to her earlier - hold more eye contact, slow down your speech, move closer, initiate more kino, and go for the kiss earlier in the date. If you wait for the end, the whole date was just the build up for that kiss instead of just kissing her earlier when the moment feels right, and you can continue to escalate further (or pick up where you left off on date #2)
/r/seduction17/11/15 08:52 PM
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There are tons of first date guides I've seen posted here regarding going out for drinks so I'll just keep it short. Be aggressive with kino, good conversation, pay for at least the first round of drinks, be funny/cocky, flirt, eye contact, sexual innuendos are good. You will also need a logistical game plan if you want to bring her over to your place so think about that ahead of time. Oh and relax and try to have fun! Any other questions I'll try to help you out!
/r/seduction11/11/15 06:35 AM
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Maybe (like others have suggested) go out for ice cream/coffee before the movie and seduce her there. It's hard to do anything in the actual theater because it's dark and talking is usually discouraged. It's difficult but not impossible. I'm going to Spectre too with a girl I had a date with last week, but we are both fine with being friends/taking it slow so it's less of a date and more of a hang out. Good luck brother
/r/seduction09/11/15 10:46 PM
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Facial paralysis? I have this issue (born with it) and I've had girls tell me my smile is cute, but I absolutely hate it. I look awful in pictures even though in the mirror I don't think it looks half bad. I also got some plastic surgery where they implanted a muscle from my leg into my face so I can sort of smile - but I still think it looks weird. Maybe PM me and we can talk about it more. I've always been self conscious of my face and smile, and I've never really had a "9/10" girl tell me it'…
/r/seduction09/11/15 07:49 PM
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Great...what's the point of this FR?
/r/seduction05/11/15 10:00 PM
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You have probably waited too long already, but go for it. You may have to reschedule for some time next week - that would be my guess. Let me know if you need any other help
/r/seduction05/11/15 08:11 PM
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You should give her a set time and place to meet. Otherwise you will never get a straight answer from her
/r/seduction05/11/15 07:56 PM
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I have this same feeling sometimes man. It's a hard feeling to get past, but you just have to believe in yourself and your own values/boundaries. Have some passion for the things you enjoy in life (sports, movies, your major in school, etc) and you will not feel inferior. Maybe make a list of the things you like about yourself and build from there. Or journal every day things you do that make you feel good, I did this and it helps to reinforce a positive mindset more often.
/r/seduction22/10/15 08:37 PM
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Why would it be dangerous to ask her out? You're only working there for ten weeks once a week - if it blows up in your face you don't have to see her every day. I'd say go for it, pretty big IOI she asked for your number
/r/seduction22/10/15 08:35 PM
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Cool man. I loved this FR, especially the part about her sending you a funny text - and I also liked the part with the sexual verbal escalation as that's definitely something I can work on. Being friends with that one girl definitely gave you an in to the group! Update us if anything happens with the girls :) good luck homie
/r/seduction22/10/15 08:34 PM
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Stay motivated, go to class, expand your social circle, learn, enjoy yourself because it's honestly an amazing time that few people get to experience - and it goes by fucking fast. Don't stress yourself out with girls, there's plenty of other things that require your attention haha
/r/seduction22/10/15 04:19 PM
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Quite a bit. I still have a lot to learn, but I honestly don't know where I would be if I did not find this sub. I'm still young so I have time - but you guys have helped me and I am forever grateful!! Keep up the good vibes and helping the newbies because it makes a huge difference in their lives and it feels good to share your experiences with others in a similar position as I was a few years ago
/r/seduction07/10/15 08:37 PM
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Iowa
/r/seduction01/10/15 01:41 PM
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ask them
/r/seduction17/09/15 03:20 PM
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She has obviously already friendzoned you bro I'm sorry to say. She invited other people to your "date". If I were you I'd just treat her as a friend and try to meet other girls. If you want to pursue go ahead, but it might be a waste of time. Good luck though. If you need any more advice feel free to PM me or whatever! I'll try to help you out
/r/seduction17/09/15 02:16 PM
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Yeah I'd move on man. It hurts but you'll be better in the long run
/r/seduction17/09/15 12:23 PM
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You wouldn't happen to be from Iowa City? Just wondering from your username. I went to school there for my undergrad
/r/seduction16/09/15 04:29 AM
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I just graduated college, and I wish I had more balls to talk to girls in my classes. I was an Electrical/Computer engineering major so honestly there weren't too many good looking girls haha but still. Wish I had been more bold and just talked to people in general. It gets exponentially harder after school so enjoy it!
/r/seduction15/09/15 07:54 PM
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It's not that hard, you'll get better as you go. Just read how she's reacting...change up the pace. Go slow some times and faster others. Touch her hair, face, rest of her body. Dig in with your fingernails (not too hard, just like a sexy grab). Bite her lower lip (also not too hard). Don't slobber all over her. Look her in the eyes after you kiss.
/r/seduction15/09/15 07:52 PM
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If only I was still in Chicago. I'm from the suburbs but moved for work. I would definitely go downtown sometime with a wing, that would be pretty fun
/r/seduction15/09/15 06:43 PM
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Congrats man. That must have been nerve wracking to ask her, but you learned a valuable lesson - you won't die, and the worst that can happen is she says no. If you want, you can pursue her as a friend! She probably has hot friends she can introduce you to if she sees you as a cool and funny, confident guy. Just keep it up and continue improving! Proud of you buddy
/r/seduction15/09/15 06:27 PM
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Yeah dude I'm with you...physically escalating is probably my weakest point too. I can't give you much advice really, but I did read a good tip: the thigh is like her arm...you can squeeze it too for dramatic effect. I can copy and paste you what I read another time here. As far as pupils dialating haha I don't really pay attention that closely, but if you want to try go for it. I personally also struggle with challenging girls/pushing them away. I know that push/pull is a great technique but I'…
/r/seduction11/09/15 11:44 PM
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Well I'd say make your intentions clear that you like her as a potential girlfriend. If I'm wrong I apologize but I think that's what you want. If you don't make that clear she may just see you as a friend (which may be what has already happened so be prepared for that). As far as what you need to accomplish I'd say definitely let her know how you feel about her or at least show her - like you said escalate physically and make eye contact. Gauge her body language. How do her friends act around y…
/r/seduction11/09/15 09:14 PM
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Cool man, I wish you good luck - but seriously don't get oneitis over this girl. You should have other women (and guys) in your life that you like to spend time with, as well as your hobbies, schoolwork, exercising, etc. Because you want to have the abundance mindset, that if you lose this girl or she rejects you (which is fine) you won't be completely devastated. Just my two cents.
/r/seduction11/09/15 05:27 PM
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Just talk to her like one of your friends. If you seem to be vibing and there's some chemistry just say "we should hang out outside of school some time, what's your number _____?" (insert name in the blank or call her cutie or something idk)
/r/seduction10/09/15 03:38 PM
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Oh okay, thanks for the info. I'm actually on my own health insurance so I might make a few calls and see what the rate is!
/r/seduction10/09/15 04:43 AM
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I'm just curious - how much does a therapist cost? Feel free to pm me if you want. I have been thinking about doing the same thing but don't really know what to ask/how much I should expect to pay out of pocket. Thanks bro
/r/seduction10/09/15 12:27 AM
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Sounds like you need some time away from the game dude. Maybe look into taking some meditation/yoga classes and look inward. I'm in the same boat in a lot of respects - I care a lot about what people think of me and I'm super insecure and self conscious which really affects my game. Obviously you were successful in the past and then who knows what affected you specifically, but it seems like you're all up in your head which (from what I've read and experienced) is not where you want to be when y…
/r/seduction09/09/15 10:15 PM
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Good post, I wish I saw this when I was in high school
/r/seduction09/09/15 04:51 PM
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Thanks man, I needed to see this. Good post and best of luck on your own personal journey as well
/r/seduction09/09/15 02:52 PM
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I can't help but feel a sense of envy when I read your posts and comments. Seriously, I just feel like such a failure that I can't pull girls and spank them with books. We've had our discussions before but I still feel like I'm not getting anywhere. It's a very discouraging feeling when I read things like this and I know that I can't pull it off even in the slightest. What the hell am I even doing any more
/r/seduction08/09/15 02:48 PM
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Like Alpha said...just relax and have fun. Be outcome independent - if you get rejected by every girl there don't let it ruin your night! People will notice and you may not get invited next time :P I never went to any parties in high school so I can't tell you much more than that really. Talk to everyone not just the girls and just have fun bro
/r/seduction06/09/15 12:20 AM
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No problem bro :) best of luck. Feel free to report back on your results if you'd like. Just be confident and she already likes being around you so I'd say you have a great shot if she sees you as a potential romantic partner.
/r/seduction04/09/15 04:59 PM
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True! From everything you said it sounds like she's definitely into you. I'd try and ask her to something and make it clear that you're asking her on a date so there's no confusion. That way you & her will both not be upset by the interaction (something I learned in sociology haha). I know that you don't want to be too available but there's two sides to that...if she likes you a lot and you aren't available she'll find someone else. Use your judgment and just go for what you want.
/r/seduction04/09/15 04:50 PM
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Dude what are you waiting for? It almost seems like you're approaching the friend zone (if you're not there already). You may be in too deep since you haven't made a move yet and are clearly not making your intentions known. If you wanted her you should have said so/behaved like you wanted her as a sexual partner earlier. I really don't know what to tell you. If you like this girl you can try making a move but it will probably be really weird now, especially for her. If you want to stay friends …
/r/seduction04/09/15 04:10 PM
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I sent you a pm! And I will look into that stuff for sure
/r/seduction03/09/15 04:34 PM
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Thanks for your feedback! You're right - how exactly is the "best" way to phrase it? What feels good for you? What's your favorite position/etc? I've gotta get better with my foreplay also and teasing (both physically and verbally) Sometimes I can be a little shy as far as communication goes but I need to get over that - I've always been very shy and reserved in general due to some physical traits I can't really control. I've got a long way to go on my journey but this sub is definitely helping …
/r/seduction03/09/15 12:44 PM
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Good post...damn I've got to step my game up haha. Especially the kino escalation and the kissing leading to netflix n chilling. I want to be the hottest fuck of some girls life for sure
/r/seduction02/09/15 10:21 PM
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Yes I think this is exactly my problem. I will definitely be coming back to this post, you all have given me invaluable feedback throughout my journey. Thanks man I really appreciate it. I do need to be more polarizing I can't disagree. I've just always been very shy and that has a lot to do with some stuff I can't control (born with facial paralysis on one side) so I've always felt very insecure and self conscious...but I've gotten much better and more sociable in even a couple of short years. …
/r/seduction01/09/15 07:22 PM
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Well I wish I could, but that wouldn't work for alcohol (open container laws here). Yes it would definitely work for coffee and stuff. I just have to calm my nerves sometimes and be more bold. I'm too afraid of screwing up or looking creepy I guess. I appreciate your feedback man. I'm only 22 and have really only been reading this stuff for about two years so I've got a ways to go haha
/r/seduction01/09/15 06:31 PM
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Thanks! I'll check out your post later when I'm not at work. Like I said a lot of my dates consist of either drinks (if they are 21+) or froyo/coffee for first date. Usually I'll try and sit next to them but this can feel a bit awkward and just not natural. From there I just usually can't escalate...like we talk about a lot of good topics and goals/dreams/fears that sort of thing but it just doesn't seem to pan out and I'm beginning to get a bit frustrated really. I'll try to keep what you said …
/r/seduction01/09/15 05:38 PM
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Thanks dude. I'm at work but I'll definitely read this and check it out! Much appreciated. You're totally right...I just need to be bold and go for it, sometimes I'm afraid of coming off as a creep and I think that is holding me back. I will try to be more aggressive and be more outcome independent. I'm not necessarily trying to be smooth, I just think I'm not really escalating at all. Thanks for the feedback though I will keep it in mind and try to just be loose and not worry so much.
/r/seduction01/09/15 05:36 PM
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Thanks, that is true. Idk I just can never find a place where it's really comfortable to touch them and it just feels forced and weird. A lot of the girls I go out with are not 21 so we can't go to a bar and get drinks...so I usually ask them to froyo or coffee and go walk to the local park. Do you have any tips for getting over the awkwardness of touching them (other than just do it, practice, etc)? I think this is the hardest part for me really. I will try and dig deeper - I have no trouble as…
/r/seduction01/09/15 02:39 PM
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It sounds like you don't really have many passions outside of school/trying to pick up girls....that really puts a lot of pressure on you and you become outcome dependent. I just read a post that asked a very good question - if girls and sex did not exist, what would you be doing? I was a virgin until almost my Junior year in college. I was also an engineering student. It's not easy man, there are so many hot girls on my campus. My advice is to work on your appearance (get fit, buy some clothes …
/r/seduction31/08/15 03:16 PM
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Yep you're on it. Just made it that much easier and not second guessing your approach. Great job man hope it works out well for ya
/r/seduction31/08/15 01:29 AM
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I think your friend definitely helped you by giving you the social proof of that group. But great job nonetheless!! Best of luck dude. I need to become more outcome independent like you and just not be afraid of failing. Thanks for the inspiring post
/r/seduction31/08/15 12:04 AM
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haha I figured as much. I was referring more to outdoor activities, traveling, music....but yes I get the idea. thanks for your feedback man
/r/seduction30/08/15 02:07 AM
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Cool man thank you for this. By awesome stuff I'm assuming you mean style, health & fitness, cooking skills, hobbies, friends (male and female), and a career sort of stuff?
/r/seduction29/08/15 11:24 PM
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Thanks. Guess I have something to look forward to while I'm getting older lol
/r/seduction29/08/15 02:37 PM
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Is the full video posted anywhere? I could only find select clips on Vimeo
/r/seduction29/08/15 02:52 AM
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Why is this the case? I guess it's just hard for me to conceptualize. I'll be 23 later this year, and have always had trouble talking to girls and being sexual/flirty. Maybe I just need to meet more women and it will come but it does get frustrating
/r/seduction28/08/15 06:58 PM
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It's high school you'll definitely see her again. Just introduce yourself next time and smile/make eye contact and you'll do great man. Congrats
/r/seduction28/08/15 03:58 AM
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I'm in a somewhat similar place dude. I feel like I just haven't made the progress I'd hoped for - I've read a few of the inner game books which helped but I guess I just struggle with being flirty and making my intentions clear with women. I don't really have a problem approaching or talking to people, I just can't seem to get past a certain barrier or wall. I'm not sure if I come off as needy/desperate (which may be the case) but I feel like I'm not seeking anything when I'm talking to people.…
/r/seduction28/08/15 03:56 AM
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I am in the same boat. Live near a college campus but work during the day and I don't get downtown too often. Curious as to what you find works the best (even though I see OP has responded - I can't go downtown and daygame on my one hour lunch break lol that just won't happen)
/r/seduction25/08/15 02:17 PM
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I'll smile at everyone to be honest, not just cute girls. People at my office - it just gives a more positive feeling/aura around you and I'd rather have people view me as happy/smiley than pouting or sad all the time. I do have a very...unique smile so I try and practice as much as I can. It makes me nervous around very cute girls but the only way to get better is to do it over and over! Good post
/r/seduction24/08/15 07:15 PM
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Nobody will remember this in six months man. Just brush it off and laugh about it if anyone brings it up. College freshmen think they are very mature and know everything but in reality they don't really know anything haha. The quicker you realize this the more your confidence will rise back up! Good luck dude
/r/seduction24/08/15 07:10 PM
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What specifically did they tell you regarding attraction vs. rapport building? Sometimes I think I can be too focused on rapport questions (what are you studying in school, do for fun, etc) and not building attraction. Just curious to see what you learned and what helped you
/r/seduction19/08/15 09:38 PM
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Examples of super random questions? I sometimes struggle to keep conversation light and fun on first dates and could use some tips also
/r/seduction19/08/15 01:22 PM
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Along the lines of what other people have said - go back and see her but maybe try and find out more info like if she has a boyfriend, etc. If that makes you uncomfortable then maybe just ask her out like someone else said - for coffee/ice cream or just anything away from work so she knows that you're interested in her also! Good luck sir
/r/seduction19/08/15 01:20 PM
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I'm with you. It can be a bit weird or awkward if you haven't spent much time with her and you just plop down next to her - but if you can pull it off go for it. I'll throw in I usually look at/compliment their jewelry or nails and get a closer look by holding their hand/arm. YMMV for a lot of this stuff depending on the girl
/r/seduction18/08/15 07:13 PM
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Great job man, keep it up :) next time you'll be more ready and have this experience to build off of. Plus, you'll probably see her around the cafeteria so you can get her number then if she's still receptive
/r/seduction17/08/15 06:02 PM
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Just talk to her man. Don't let the fear of being friendzoned hold you back - I had this same situation my Junior year of college, and I talked to this girl and we ended up doing a lot of homework together and being in the same classes. She had a bf but honestly it didn't matter, she was really cute and still fun to talk to. Just ask yourself what's the worst that could happen? She thinks you're weird or not attractive and doesn't want anything to do with you...so what? She's missing out on havi…
/r/seduction13/08/15 06:56 PM
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Thank you. I'm only 22 and have been on a fair share of dates (mostly through online game) so it takes a bit for me to get comfortable with the girl (and vice versa I think), but I definitely struggle to escalate at times and I can be a little shy/reserved about not wanting to "push" too hard. I have a lot to learn in that area and just getting more comfortable and playful with my interactions. I'll watch the videos you linked when I get a chance, I'm at work right now. Any other advice is welco…
/r/seduction12/08/15 07:09 PM
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Good advice. Can you elaborate on push/pull pace and getting her to want more? This is something I struggle with and I've been reading a lot lately - I'm a lifelong sufferer of nice guy syndrome and I'm trying to reframe it so I'm the prize and they are chasing me, but it is quite difficult sometimes.
/r/seduction12/08/15 06:01 PM
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Works every time
/r/seduction11/08/15 10:41 PM
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Smooth as heck :) nice work buddy.
/r/seduction11/08/15 01:52 AM
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In my experience it usually helps to suggest a day/time instead of asking them - as mentioned in the texting game links in the sidebar. However girls are all different and the same tactic may not work depending on their schedules/interest level but like Throwaway said you know she's interested otherwise you wouldn't have gotten her number in the first place. For an online date I'll usually do something low investment/cost also like coffee or frozen yogurt over dinner or a movie. I'll usually wal…
/r/seduction10/08/15 09:31 PM
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this is pretty much spot on. the only way to get better is to practice - and girls aren't necessarily good kissers even if she's been around hah. just relax and realize it's really not that big of a deal.
/r/seduction10/08/15 09:26 PM
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so...you want to ask just B out but made plans with both of them? that's pretty confusing man.
/r/seduction10/08/15 09:11 PM
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upvoted, good post man. keep up the good work!
/r/seduction29/07/15 08:09 PM
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good post man
/r/seduction29/07/15 08:04 PM
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Thanks man this is great advice. I've come quite a long way since high school but there's a lot of learning I still have to do!
/r/seduction29/04/15 08:43 PM
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You are definitely right man, I'm just introverted by nature and I've become too complacent with just watching stuff on my laptop at home and not really going out as much as I should. I really wish I had been more social in college but it's pretty much too late for that. Getting out there is definitely the hardest part for me...I'm pretty good at communicating and making friends but putting myself out there is a skill that I lack and need to develop it better. Any other tips on doing this would …
/r/seduction29/04/15 06:20 PM
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I need to work on this myself. I'm about to graduate college and I still have really no reliable way to meet women. I'm just very nervous still about approaching and don't do enough with my social life to improve this. Do you have any advice in working on outer game and developing confidence in approaching or being more social with women? I'm an engineer so I hardly ever have girls in my classes
/r/seduction29/04/15 04:19 PM
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I'm just scared of what you think
/r/seduction29/04/15 12:48 PM
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Awesome post - wish I had read this when I was in high school. It's hard to even remember high school and it was only four years ago for me - but I've come a long way since then. This is great advice OP, just realize that once High School is over none of it will matter in the slightest, so use it as a learning experience and just improve yourself as much as you can which will pay off in the long run. Don't worry about talking to the "popular kids", I hardly ever did and I'm a few weeks away from…
/r/seduction09/04/15 08:44 PM
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No problem dude :) Good luck & have fun out there. Don't stress too much haha
/r/seduction29/03/15 08:19 PM
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You'll have to use your judgment man. You don't want to be making out in front of your friends, but you obviously want to be escalating still. I'd say your best strategy would be to try and sit next to her and maybe make leg to leg contact, or put your hand on her leg/lower back etc. Also, definitely make strong eye contact and show her you're interested. You can sneak in a kiss now and then but don't make your friends uncomfortable, that's my advice. Hopefully it helps!
/r/seduction29/03/15 07:56 PM
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Nice dude, good luck! Let us know how it turns out. You're doing the right thing by keeping the texting to a minimum...let the anticipation build on their end, texting will only lessen that
/r/seduction22/01/15 05:41 PM
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I liked the text game, definitely some good use of inside jokes. Like the DMThrowaway said you should probably block out her number for privacy
/r/seduction10/12/14 03:01 PM
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Ah gotcha! Makes sense now, definitely a moment to kiss her haha. Good job bro it's syllabus week for me too, hopefully I can find a few parties this weekend
/r/seduction27/08/14 03:46 PM
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What exactly do you mean by the conversation is holding our interactions? I've never heard that term before but in that context it sounds like it's important! Otherwise a decent FR
/r/seduction27/08/14 03:41 PM
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Yeah I agree with that, telling her over text would most likely lead to you not even seeing her. Just be prepared for her reaction bro lol and good luck! I wish I could go on beach dates :\ (Iowa City, IA here)
/r/seduction30/07/14 05:15 PM
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That could definitely work. If you really have to tell her a white lie because you think she'll reject you, then I don't see it working out with her past a possible hookup. If she really doesn't like underage guys then it's just not going to work, plain and simple. She'll find out eventually
/r/seduction30/07/14 05:03 PM
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Just be honest with her, but say you would still like to get drinks and suggest your plan! Like you said, you don't want to lie in this situation. I've had it the reverse where the girl is under 21 but we still find stuff to do.
/r/seduction30/07/14 04:33 PM
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Good summary at the end! Thanks for this
/r/seduction18/07/14 06:15 PM
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This is perfect advice. Thanks for adding the part about isolating and escalating HB8
/r/seduction16/07/14 08:45 PM
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Nice job man, I don't think you came off as too sweet. It's probably just because you are younger than them but don't be intimidated. If you do end up going to that party hang with HB8 but don't be exclusive to her as that shows neediness, make sure to meet everyone else and just generally have a good time (talk to other girls too! ~ social proof). Anywho I have no clue what Hawaii's social life is like (I've never been there) so live it up dude! Congrats and a nice FR
/r/seduction16/07/14 07:55 PM
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Okay, it definitely seems like this girl is into you. I do have to ask if you are romantically interested in this girl, why ask her out to lunch? That seems to give off more of a "friend" vibe as well as you guys gossiping about another woman in your office and whether she likes you or not. If you truly have gotten over your "nice guy incarnate" state of mind, you need to make your intentions clear with her and make a move. I would say ask her out to dinner/drinks and do something fun where you …
/r/seduction15/07/14 07:44 PM
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This is great. I really like when he shows how to escalate with the girl by slowing down and making eye contact/looking at her mouth etc. Even I can feel the sexual tension and I'm not even there! Added to my favorites, thanks
/r/seduction10/07/14 09:18 PM
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Yeah I'm 21 now and I'm trying to really focus on my inner game as I've realized I've been a "nice guy" all my life and always worried about what others think of me instead of putting myself first. It's not an easy transition but I'm getting better! Your feedback is valuable as I know I need to improve many aspects of myself as well as my overall game. Thanks again
/r/seduction10/07/14 08:13 PM
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Yeah I agree. In my post I said that I had been reading some material (mostly inner game stuff) and yes I do need to develop more of an abundance mentality. I'm also assuming you mean outcome independent which is also something I need to work on. Thanks for your advice dude
/r/seduction10/07/14 06:56 PM
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Haha what a coincidence! Yeah she seemed like she was worth knowing. I just hope that I didn't mess it up with her since I had fun but apparently I didn't escalate enough from what everyone is telling me! Any other advice would be appreciated, especially from another server named Abbie/Annie :)
/r/seduction10/07/14 02:53 PM
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You are probably right. I guess I was just content with kissing her and I didn't escalate past that for whatever reason. I will definitely tone it back emotionally and be more aggressive physically. When do you think I should contact her, if you've read what I posted about her not being free until next week?
/r/seduction10/07/14 02:52 PM
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I appreciate the advice. I am somewhat new, I just have to learn to push my own boundaries and be brave because I usually get nervous when it comes to escalating when we're not fully isolated somewhere. I just hope that I didn't blow it because I want another chance to escalate!
/r/seduction09/07/14 09:30 PM
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I'm not really sure honestly. I probably could have gone for heavier making out/petting but honestly we weren't really in a truly secluded area, there were people around us so I wasn't that keen on trying to escalate heavily. IDK if I could have gotten her to come home with me, it's possible but I wasn't feeling that confident in making it happen on the first night since I've never really done that before. Do you think I should just chill and try to contact her this weekend? (I have other dates …
/r/seduction09/07/14 09:19 PM
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You're totally right, we share common interests (she really likes video games, working out, other things) but our conversations were basically just flat...I didn't really try to dive deeper which was my initial goal. I just get distracted and idk I struggle to think of better questions/comments until after the fact. I want to see her again, and if I do I'll try to focus on diving deeper to create that emotional connection. Thanks for the advice, I appreciate it.
/r/seduction30/06/14 08:08 PM
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You're so right man. I just went on a date yesterday and I tried to kiss her but it didn't really work out at all. I don't think I built nearly enough comfort with her, though I did kino just a bit (held hands while we walked, things like that). I tried to emphasize the "positive moments" like you said when she was laughing or something like that by touching her, but idk it didn't feel that comfortable. I'm working on becoming more in touch with my own feelings and trying to create an emotional …
/r/seduction30/06/14 07:40 PM
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Thanks man I appreciate it. I've never been good with girls even though I've had girlfriends. I just have to get better at approaching and conversation, and let one thing lead to another like you say with "mini successes". I'm sure I can change my mindset I just need some positive experiences to fall back on and know that I can do it!
/r/seduction27/06/14 04:13 PM
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This is definitely what I need to get better at - pushing myself to approach. I'm always very nervous but once I do it it just becomes somewhat of a natural conversation. Where do you do most of your approaches after work OP? I get off ~5pm every day and will sometimes go to the gym or a local grocery place but I rarely approach any women (like you said I just feel like I'm taking up their time when they are busy doing something else). I just need to man the F up and go talk to them, but it's no…
/r/seduction27/06/14 04:07 PM
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Yeah I definitely agree with what you and Endoss said. If all goes well I'll report back and let you know how it went!
/r/seduction06/02/14 05:03 PM
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I'll definitely have to try that next time (sitting down, playing games, etc), I don't think the dancing was that awkward though! Honestly after thinking about it again it was probably more like 5-10 seconds not 20. I'm a pretty good kisser (I think) and pretty sure I didn't slobber all over their faces lol. Again, I know when I've had too much to drink and I definitely didn't that night but you make a good point that I should drink less if my goal is to close with a girl. I never felt like I wa…
/r/seduction27/01/14 10:54 PM
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That makes a lot of sense, I appreciate your input a lot. I apologize on the length but I felt like writing everything out just so it was there. You're totally right, I should have just played it cool and gotten her number to "postpone" the act of her coming over. I'm new at all this pick-up stuff but I felt accomplished that I created the attraction in the first place, I just have to get better at closing. That response is golden I wish I had used that haha! Next time though, and thanks again :…
/r/seduction27/01/14 09:03 PM
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Makes total sense! I just haven't heard that term before. I also understand LMR but I'm not sure what that stands for either lol. I bet the R means resistance though
/r/seduction04/12/13 06:47 PM
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What exactly is icing out?
/r/seduction04/12/13 06:18 PM
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oh man, it went great! Tons of sexual tension the whole night and I ended up staying over at her place ;) I'm not quite sure how to proceed from here as I've never really stayed the night with a girl before lol
/r/seduction02/11/13 07:02 PM
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I'd recommend it :) better to be too aggressive than not aggressive enough! My last few dates I've went for the more aggressive approach and it's worked out great
/r/seduction31/10/13 02:17 AM
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Kiss her on the first date bro! Just go for it if the mood is right. Be bold
/r/seduction30/10/13 05:48 PM
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Awesome man, I enjoyed reading this. I'm going to go with a girl to a Haunted House on Friday and hopefully all goes well with your dates too :)
/r/seduction28/10/13 05:05 PM
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just had a first date a couple days ago, thought it went well but after reading this I definitely see some things I could have improved on. good advice, thanks
/r/seduction14/10/13 05:13 PM
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this is my biggest problem...I was born with half my face paralyzed and I've always been very self conscious about my smile and how I look
/r/seduction02/10/13 02:19 AM
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just message her dude, ask her if she's busy this week etc...better to get rejected than continue doing nothing
/r/seduction30/07/13 01:24 AM
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Exact same shit happened to me man...I'm so thoroughly confused, but I'm just trying to move on
/r/seduction12/07/13 02:53 PM
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