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You failed to explain how your life is better than the fears you avoided? It could have been bad, it could have been good - Presumably you'd have to be happy with your lot now for it to have been worth. But I don't see many as happy around here.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 02:24 PM
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Things change, we change with it. The future will likely be different, but it'll be in a new way rather than going back to the past. You cant just flick a switch and make conservatism happen (and conservatism etc are all ideas constantly in a state change themselves). Things that work In their respective time periods were because of the conditions, technology etc of the time, and at each turn over hundreds of years conditions improved. Some years ago the UK government made workplace pensions (ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 01:27 AM
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But yet e-prostitutes are making millions per year Despite a whole internet's worth of free accessible porn. Being closer to a human is a massive factor. Robots are robots but we are human. We will always want for more, always want for better regardless of what we already have.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 11:08 PM
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The idea of what rape is has broadened through the decades. It used to only be rape if the woman was dragged to the bushes by a stranger. Then it came to include date rape. Then it came to include marital rape. Now it includes women consensual sex in which the woman is fully awake but intoxicated. This seems like a fairly objective measurement, presented in a timeline to why we may consider women to be treated better now. Most criminal law has not shifted so dramatically in its foundations in th…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 12:09 AM
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Yes means yes was always about affirmative consent, enthusiastic consent was floated in these spaces because men were having trouble (or spent too much time concerned trolling) about the details and nuances of affirmative consent. Red Pill especially did not like affirmative consent because much of its practical advise was more about avoiding or at one point pushing past a no. This is the definition of consent in the UK: If he agrees by choice, and has the freedom and capacity to make that choic…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 09:55 AM
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RMV stands for relationship market value. SMV stands for sexual market value. They're self explanatory terms. There's some interaction between the two but they're ultimately defined by the value an individual presents sexually / commitment wise as distinct entities. I know over the years it's become more common to conflate everything to the SMV tag, but I think this is a disservice to discussing dynamics and primarily a black pill product. Like this post could have been summed up in RMV Vs SMV t…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 01:10 AM
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Red Pill differentiates RMV and SMV for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 12:38 AM
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The politics didn't ruin Starfield, lazy development from a company that peaked a decade ago ruined it. BG3 has the same pronoun stuff along with choosing you're own genetalia configuration, everyone is pan and will hit on the player character, many same sex couples throughout, crude and brash Barbarian and Fighter class companions that are female. I wouldn't call them ugly but the two aforementioned would usually draw the ire of the anti woke crowd for their design (and very occasionally you se…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 04:39 PM
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They're trash because the games are trash. You can easily replace something like Starfield listing (or most of them tbh) with BG3. Larian is largely ignored in it all because it's so popular.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 04:00 PM
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Thanks, tables over pages are a little hard to decipher. I don't think this includes unemployed at all, of note the median for men contains higher variance - but this isn't getting into the very rich area. If we went into detail with alimony cases I would expect they're high income disparity and / or one spouse not working at all. Duration may also be a factor with 2010 data still capturing divorces from a decade or more previously, depending on state older orders could last quite some time.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 12:59 AM
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What was the income disparity in 2010? I'm not certain this doesn't track because those getting divorced in 2010 were largely boomers and some gen X. Their splits are not like ours are now. Millennials will be better represented in divorce stats in a decade or so. With all divorce data gotta consider the time lag, including how long the alimony has been running for.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 12:37 AM
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Again you're missing the part where woman say one form of hate is ok and another isn't. Which woman? ETA; like seriously I searched the last one in the list here and there's 0 MSM articles about them, probably because they don't want to touch the inflammatory ones with a bargepole.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 05:10 PM
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Femanism and inceldom are not two sides of the same coin. Feminism is an idea with many different branches, some of those more or less sane. Inceldom is a branch of the manosphere, where people who are struggling for one reason or another end up. You can see different branches of feminism criticizing each other all the time if you choose to watch their work. Incel women would have been... Uhhh I don't think the sub exists anymore and can't remember what it's called. Not really prominent enough f…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 04:58 PM
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People do say as much. A quick Google search brings up UK.gov press releases about how incels need mental health rather than counter terrorism support, a sympathetic Guardian article, articles about needing support outside internet groups etc. There's absolutely a distinction in those that are radicalised and those that are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 04:36 PM
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While the majority of hewers were men, there were also women doing so a few hundred years prior. By WW2 it was less common as it had been illegal for women to work down mines for a time, by then women were commonly haulers (coal or iron), sorters and smelters.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 08:33 PM
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They've also been through something similar to the latter. We have been through a time where 45% of young men were away at war in Britain, WWII. The majority of issues encountered were war made, food rationing because of disruption of imports (high food imports at the time) and poor economy with 40% of the nations resources diverted to the war. Production was scaled up for it. Women were also drafted into work, by 1943 90% of unmarried women, 80% of married women were working. The late Queen Eli…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 05:26 PM
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Idk who 'you guys' are suppose to be, I didn't receive no members only play book. I was having my morning coffee and saw this comment moving off topic. Serving up constructive criticism to men or women is imo a bit weird. Only something to be done when it is asked for, and better processed coming from within the gender, aka Red Pills CC of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 06:02 PM
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Because communal economic systems supported by the left reward men based on a social facsimile of familial obligation rather than as a result of their efforts. Men do not want to be treated like children. And social hierarchies exist across all ideologies, not just right wing ones. Conservative hierarchy is strongly economic as well as social, AKA there must be poor people and its important to keep poor people poor. Conservatism is more restrictive in social mobility, while leftist policies (and…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 05:26 PM
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a desire to succeed or fail on their own merits, Great in a game that’s not rigged. Ok why right then tho? Why conservatism? It is the ideology with the innate belief of a strict hierarchy of people that must be conserved. Further then why Trump? A man who stated he benefitted from a rigged system, and has indicated no desire to change that system?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 04:15 PM
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Booo. When people are bringing one thing up it doesn't indicate their feelings on everything that it is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 10:37 AM
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I don't think it's generally abusive, I think it can rise to that level. My husband was a nag. He used to nag me, notify me several times over a week or so we were running low on X. It's part of my job in the relationship to get X. After a time it went boom and we had an arguement. After that argument we sat down and talked about it. His natural response to seeing something wrong or missing is to deal with it immediately. From my pov I was adding X to my mental list, that I would order/fetch wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 11:00 AM
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I can see and hear who women are dating without being the one who is trying to date them, I have friends and eyes that say otherwise, both verbally and by their actions. To stress that's not to say those women do not exist, and as a more generalised point I do think expectations are raised (across the board, regardless of gender) but many or most are imo more... Mundane. Those who are more avoidant of men around me are so for the same reasons, rejection and hurt (from men I would not consider to…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 04:01 PM
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I think there's some truth in their statement, as much as there is in yours. I've seen enough unsuccessful men who have had interest, but from steeping themselves in this rhetoric for so long their completely unsuitable for relationships (romantic or otherwise). Their beliefs and world view are warped to an extent it is awkward. They can not let themselves be loved because of fear of alterior motives. Is she using you for your wallet or is it because she can't catch chad? The only permissable 'm…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 01:50 PM
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Sure, it's just a another term used for subscribing to and acting withing an ideology or such.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 12:23 PM
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You can have had sex, and now be involuntarily celibate. Id presume the person is using the insult in a culture alignment type way anyway, to which they do have a comment 'It's about the mindset'. Insults are generally unproductive, I don't think this person was trying to change minds.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 09:52 AM
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There's people I would date and a whole one person I'd have had sex with and not date. The only difference between them is I didn't think the latter guy was compatible in that way. 'Women' is a rather large group. We don't all think the same, and while I'm sure there's women categorising men like the manosphere fears, it's not common enough that I've seen it among my friends. They're not getting into relationships with men they're not attracted to; because that would suck for them too. No one wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 12:43 AM
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People can choose what is expected in their relationships, and not get into them / leave if they don't meet those expectations. Some people may land on not having sex is fine in their relationship. Some people may choose faithfulness is not expected in their relationship. The expectations are whatever the couple make it. There is no 'should'.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 11:54 PM
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Idk, what in 'modern feminism' is the problem (that is not something that could also be said for TRP to distinguish it) and how long has it been an issue for? Feminism may have raised the bar for women, and what they want from a relationship, but it was always phrased very much as for women. I truly believe RP adjacent (because RP now... Well it's very different to OG) stuff did more damage over the last decade, because much of that was phrased as an attack against women out of spite. Feminism d…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 11:23 PM
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From a country where circumcision isn't the norm, glancing at American culture on this looks a bit barbaric. I don't think it's useful to measure it against FGM here, as FGM loss of function when successfully done will always be 'worse', its a race MGM can not win. MGM is bad in its own right. IMV Routine circumcision is harmful, and the main thing is genital mutilation entirely unnecessary. Sometimes when I read American centric threads on this you'd think Europeans are experiencing an epidemic…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 03:16 PM
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Red Pill (no added preservatives).
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 12:03 AM
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The average man isn’t getting laid so how would it change things? Well, they'd also have no/restricted porn in this hypothetical. Things here that have been described as replacements or coping mechanisms are also under the chopping block if not deemed fit, because the idea is to take away everything like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 10:46 AM
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Well all find out together 🤷‍♀️ Mood is certainly different when the threats or fears of what's to come is based on ideas that shit on everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 02:47 AM
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People are having their freedoms taken away (not suspected or hyperbolically, quite literally) - least for those groups this isn't a simple disagreement or matter of opinion, its a matter of their liberty. When it comes to their liberty, folks like Shapiro have indicated they would take up arms against the government for such; it becomes highly emotive and violent when its happening to you. Its what drove Jan6 - though it was fear of Biden's.. communism... or some bollocks rather than reality. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 01:08 AM
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I've visited the GenZ sub, I know it's a vitriolic one- but the stats are clear enough without having to wave my finger in the air and building world views on vibes. We are (I hope) all aware echo chambers exist throughout social media and are don't dictate a representative view. For comparison, in the UK right wing (Con, Ref) vote in 18-24 yos amounted to 17%, that's a split to panic over. This is also more significantly split by gender. ETA; checking with other sources before I stated outright…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 06:04 PM
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Wanting left winged groups to win requires more support to men Counterpoints; There doesn't seem to be a particularly gendered split in American voting, there is less so in the actuals than was proposed before, and its not as wide as it has been previously. Most countries have a higher voting gender gap. Gender wars doesn't break into any top reasoning lists for public concerns. Left wing groups 'win' in our current societies all the time. BUT I don't disagree with the body of the post , as in l…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 05:00 PM
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Therefore, childless couples should be forced to adopt children Lets not set ourselves limits here, non coupled folk can adopt too.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 12:17 PM
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Considering the numbers that OP posted its just a smart issue to campaign on. They can (and do) of course do more than one thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 05:19 PM
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Men do not understand women's fiction because they're not women, I'd agree coming to the conclusion of liking bad boys is a ahem shallow understanding, much like marine biology from SpongeBob, but they can still tell us things. The fictional romance arc for women is overcoming obstacles and being object of desire - particularly being persued, often taking a 'taming the beast' route with her feminine majesty. The plot is always resolved when tamed. Darker romance is just the same themes on steroi…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 08:04 PM
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Arguably they're the exceptions that prove the rule, legislation brought in as an additional deterrent considering homicide of pregnant women is particularly high. Its not consistent nor common and has been enacted in an attempt to protect pregnant women rather than the idea those unborn have similar rights. Evidenced by requiring separate legislation.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 11:08 AM
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Those unborn are not recognised as a child, pretty much anywhere. There is no pre birth child support. There is no pre birth citizenship entitlement or passport, no personhood, no human rights etc. All these things happen upon birth. Likewise we do not recognise existence the life prior in something as fundamental as time. A year old child is from birth - not from conception. On point 3; there is no winning, really you would use the same logical argument that fetus supposes sperm and egg but it'…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 10:33 PM
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50 shades isnt a great example. Christian Grey is super simpy & a victim of sexual abuse. The most immoral thing he does is... Be so obsessed with the protagonist he's a bit stalkery & con non con by virtue of us being in protagonists head. It's really just the same template as most romance stuff with focus on desire (and magically fixing them with luuuurve).
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 11:30 PM
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Not only that being a proud dick gives you better opportunities in life compared to being a nice guy. Most CEOs have atleast some sociopathic tendencies according to research. Let your asshole flag fly. As do most of those in jail or the homeless. Studies show sociopaths die younger and have a poor quality of life in general. The exceptions that get to the top ... Well if you're (not you in particular) struggling with your place already you're much more likely to land at the bottom rather than c…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 05:26 PM
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Go back 400 odd years and the average age of marriage in England was 26&28. People were not remaining virgins until their mid 20's. I think the whole virgin traditional (or traditional in general tbh) thing is a bit rose tinted idealisation of something that didn't really exist in many cultures. Even America turn of the 20th century you had high estimates of marriage happening during pregnancy. We know not all of those men at the alter would have been the father, and some did so willingly. Peopl…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 09:02 AM
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If he agrees by choice, and has the freedom and capacity to make that choice. Is the definition of consent where I am. A defence to rape would be: Did you believe the other party consented and why? I find it a good thought experiment on the issue, this is Yes means yes. The onus is on each to only proceed if they believe the other to be consenting, which requires affirmation (that's not necessarily verbal). If anyone struggles reading body language or is unsure, verbal affirmation is just a wise…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 10:56 PM
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I'm not really opposed to the state handling child support in the case of unwilling fathers. But the state pretty much is. A child exists, costs money and abject poverty harms everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 01:40 PM
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My logic here isn't anything about becoming a mom or a dad or willfulness, my note was based on your logic. The abortion issue exists on the basis of medical state and an individuals right over their body. Men do not enter this state. Not doing so confers some benefits (no periods, pregnancy or menopause) and some detriments. Lack of ability to abort down the flow chart of choice is one of those detriments. I do agree more contraceptive choice and options should be available to men regardless. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 01:20 PM
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If child support is the right of the child, then abortion is also wrong because life is the right of the child too If aborted there is never a child. Notably child support doesn't apply from conception.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 12:24 PM
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one study going viral claiming women find men with a gambling addiction more attractive then men who game. Can anyone link to this because I can't find any reference?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 10:54 AM
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Women are responding to that by saying men should go to bars, clubs, parties, and niche hobby clubs instead. I mean, if you're going to confine the appropriate settings to such a niche and infinitesimally small area of life, you might as well just admit you discourage men from ever approaching women. While online dating created another avenue, this sort of thing is how most my friends met their partners, how I met my husband, how my parents met, how my grandparents met, and so on and so forth. C…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 11:38 PM
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You are mistaking the judicial system working correctly as it being a problem. It can work correctly and be a problem. Just not a problem with a reasonable way to make the victim whole. It working correctly is how few innocent folk get convicted; we minimize wrongful imprisonment and an effect of that is more guilty folk walking free. Much like the overall topic. There is no reasonable way to make those wrongfully convicted whole, we can not rewind time.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 11:07 AM
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You could read the rest of the comment. The average woman's ideal is 6ft tall, like the average mans ideal is hourglass. Ideal doesn't mean much in the grand scheme of things.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 10:54 AM
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womans general preference having a partner who is over 5'11 which is barely 15% of men Height preference isn't so static. First preference is 21cm (little over 8 inches) over her height, and second in this case would be taller than her. The difference between average female and male height is 5 inches. Putting much of the population within attractive height bounds. That doesn't take away those in the lower percentiles can struggle however. We can't take 'ideal only' from one group but use 'secon…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 10:24 AM
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So? Just ignore them. Of the 4 PPB commenters I've exchanged with on PPD, they have 0% success rate in their stated goals. We're talking to sales people whose motives are disingenuous. They all talk about how great it is and how they so many more matches with so many more hot women. But, no they haven't reached their goal yet of finding 'the one'. Like what is this hypogamy in overdrive or you bullshitting? They're all so great, but not 1 in 1000 was good enough?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 01:18 PM
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What is your goal? Have you reached that goal ?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 10:01 AM
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Doesn't Elon, Nick Cannon etc. prove that TRP is partially right about hypergamy and about how women are willing to share certain men? Its pretty poor as a general statement when the list in opposition is much more exhaustive. As a sweeping generalization its more correct to say they are not than they are - but its still not really true. There are situation and people, men or women who are willing to 'share' (imv serial monogamy, or serial anything is not that but OK).
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 09:48 AM
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Uh, you're agreeing with me. Yes; something I agree with more than others in your post. It doesn't matter what the origin for a belief system is in this case.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 10:02 AM
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"national socialist" is the full name for "Nazi", and it was the name of a party led by a guy called Adolf. When someone claims to be a Nazi, do you apply the literal definition? You probably didn't see my prior edit but it is a bit amusing. I did bring up the UKs alt right party as national socialists. I personally don't like to throw out Nazi stuff etc often; but its certainly something associated with Farage. Obviously I believe the nationalism part to the degree it was, was an issue, the soc…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 09:59 AM
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As for your claim about "woke"- stop being intentionally obtuse with the dictionary definitions. Do you think that national socialist ideology is "strong patriotism and national identity combined with social welfare and collective ownership"? I'm not, when something is functionally the same its functionally... the same. Woke is only when the left do it is just another meaningless divide. I don't know what the American socialist ideology entails. Socialism is social welfare and (limited) collecti…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 09:51 AM
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All religions are systems of belief, not all system of belief are religions. Religion is religion. By definition it requires belief in a higher power, commonly god/s. 'Woke' as far as I can tell doesn't mean anything except 'left and I don't like it'. 'Being awake and aware of social injustices in the world' is not even left, it includes MRA and TheRedPill; a analogy from a movie where you choose a physical Red pill to be literally woken up is perhaps the best example of its supposed definition,…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 09:27 AM
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I’m all for ‘objective’ descriptions — and calling out people and shaming them, but then we should do it fairly and not discriminate. What do you think? Sir this is PPD. I joke... a bit
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 08:42 AM
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The first link was also authored by an American, imv it seems more like an American talking point we (Europeans) don't care so much for. It does seem more like a view reinforced by religion, which is rather thin on the ground here.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 08:32 AM
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Otherwise the word "most" would be more appropriate. Many of the generalizations under the banner do not even apply to most. But going back AWALT was more of a... all women have the capability to be like that. Which is a lot of acronym to say nothing at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 11:54 PM
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So I simply realised this, then hit the gym. After that, dating was pretty easy. I’ve never understood how one allows they’re feelings, to dictate their actions. ... No animosity in this but didn't your feeling dictate your actions? You wanted something because good feels and took positive action to get it. Feelings are like the first ingredient in every action we take. It's more inaction or negative feedback loops that are the issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 12:40 AM
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Maybe these things arent considered because no one actually cares that boys misbehave and get bad grades. I think they are being considered. Search for gender gap [accreditation] and you'll get plenty of results, it comes up on Reddit and UK reddits often. Least in the UK there's some grants for male teachers in preschool, and the new government had plans some months back for supporting boys in schools with some sort of role model/ mentoring programs that was not received well on Reddit as they …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 11:26 PM
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Determinism is a very old and contested belief in psychology. There is no consensus , and there's a whole spectrum between determinism and uninfluenced free will. There's even a spectrum of determinism, biological, external etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 06:45 PM
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Friends first shouldn't be an approach to dating at all. Couples meet this way as a part of normal socialisation, not as a strategy or with the intent. Friends go out with other friends and other groups come a long and there's a lot of exposure in a more relaxed environment. A lot of the work is done here in the background, a woman will know if there's a spark or not after a while rather than agreeing to go for coffee a few times with a stranger and deciding there isn't. Really it cuts out a lot…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 02:42 PM
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I knew him as part of a wider social group for a while, wasn't love or lust at first sight - I've not experienced that with anyone. Random men are the same to me as random women , I hold no sexual feelings for them. We had few interactions, I didn't dislike him. One time we were out bowling as a group and he was trying to move past, put his hand on my back and the switch was flipped to on, 0 to 100 lust in seconds - for me its not really slow and it can be more obsessive / overbearing. We talked…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 11:40 PM
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https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19469598/ Participants of both genders showed substantial consensus in judgments of whom they found attractive and unattractive, although men showed higher consensus than women. Revealed preference estimates also showed relationships with corresponding self-rated preferences and with other dispositional characteristics such as personality traits and age. Article discussing with author ; https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/06/090626153511.htm Men's judgments…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 11:05 PM
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A lizard will still want pass on their genes before worrying about the resources available. We're not lizards. Women are more concerned with resources than passing on genes, Because women are not men and have different concerns. For women, passing on genes is easy and you noted they don't have the same paternity issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 09:26 AM
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you also have to drag the animal back. I know the term hunter gatherer conjures images of chasing large prey, but HG diets are thought to be primarily fruit and vegetable, and a lot of the meat would be things like fish, birds and small animals like rabbits. Anything from Deer down wouldn't be too much a concern. (ETA: also hunting is a group activity).
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 06:56 PM
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Like why would OTHER MEN want something I don’t, coming from what I believe is a rational view point.That would still be eye opening for me Oh gosh. Hate to break down this thing you have going on but different men want different things in women. There may be significant overlaps in some areas with some groups but we can not speak for an entire gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 04:10 PM
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What does "being a good person" even mean? It's not well defined, but I leveraged it to prosocial mentality and acts, because that has an evidenced positive effect on the individual. This doesn't mean you can't also do things for you. Maybe it's a bit chicken and egg, but I think this is something that should happen first. People are not going to legitimately make an effort sort out other areas of their lives without sorting out mental health issues that hold them back from taking action, especi…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 01:53 PM
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Stuff like lifting and sorting your career out is very general and has plenty of secondary effects. So does the stuff in the OP. Pet ownerships reduces stress and improves lifespan. Being a good person (Or 'prosocial mentality and acts' to phrase it better) positively influences mental health and life satisfaction - it does in itself go a ways to producing positive outcomes. Just be good may be the best advice for PPDs, considering the general mental health issues, particularly low self esteem.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 12:57 PM
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If you took a group of 50 women your age and 50 women 10 years younger which group do you think you'll have more takers in? That's all that's required to believe this. Of course there are men that like older women etc too, there are (no small amounts of) X gender that do not fit into the average Y preference trends and such. Like if this is true for 90% of women; it's 1 in 10 that it's not true for.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 03:20 PM
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If one dates up the other must be dating….. Both can date 'up' in different areas. Traditionally hypergamy in social economics was paired with age hypogamy, or with younger women, which is pretty consistently seen as 'better'.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 08:23 AM
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Not against them, I think for most people the default arrangement works fine. Noticeable as women's financial independence has reached the level it has in the last decade or so women are much more comfortable with them, and likely to want to protect themselves too. Boomer/gen x have a high divorce rate and make up much of the alimony etc stats, their experience with divorce is unlike younger generations as they do not have a significant gendered wage gap in the same way.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 12:21 AM
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Ironically it always seems to be unattractive women past their prime voicing these sort of opinions. Any article or Facebook group ... Check tiktok or a social media used by young people instead. Reddit is a younger demographic than FB.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 08:17 AM
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The 'understanding' heavily leans negative (I'm struggling to think of anything positive RP goes into about female sexuality right now) and creates neuroticism in men to the point they start questioning every single interaction. Human nature, within humans or their gender or anything does not = X. Its a whole bunch of traits and conflicting desires, where any one person exists on a spectrum based on their natural leaning, age, culture and prior experiences, along with the context and situation i…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 09:37 AM
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"And nobody will miss you" can mean practically anything. What would a reasonable person believe that means? What matters is what most would infer based on the context.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 11:40 PM
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I doubt the cops ignored her bashing his window with a hammer Its a item, an object; significantly less serious to end its life than threatening words against a person. Windshields don't have human rights. The things you own end up owning you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 11:29 PM
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that means half are getting married later than 30. Not necessarily. For example average of 26, 26, 38 is 30. Idk the distribution I just wanted to interject about averages.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 11:25 PM
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China's birthrate is still consistently declining. They've been banging the leftover women drum for nearly two decades.. I don't think it worked.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 08:42 PM
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Inability to change and integrate partners as friends is ime a major reason people wonder where all their friends went when they get into their 30's+. Along the way guys will find partners and slowly phase themselves out. Life gets in the way and over time fewer dates everyone can make it. Splinter groups occur and the group gets smaller, couples will go out together in 4s or 6s. I can't relate to OP at all though, my friends groups have always been mixed, so I guess I don't know any guys who th…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 03:03 PM
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Depending on if you're talking about online or in person then picking your audience is part of the equation. If you want to rant and no advise, choose the audience for that and visa versa. If its a neutral audience maybe make your expectations clear from the outset. Next is making sure there's lots of I*'s* and it's not focused on They, She or Them's. I would anticipate as coming off rude and create defensive conflict if I was to approach a group of guys and ask them 'why do men suck' for exampl…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 03:36 PM
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Most people don't use them correctly/don't know what they're looking at anyway. Say I have a study where men were asked to rate boob size and the average came out DD. What use would this be? Other than rating pictures in isolation has a particular shape it tells us nothing. Not that a majority of even plurality prefer that (because we need to know the shape of the data in conjunction with the average to tell that), and even so it has little practical real world implications because these made up…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 12:12 AM
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Thought crimes are a bit far. But no they are not taken seriously. Black lives matter and white lives matter slogans are not similar in nature, because of the situational context in which each arose. Likewise I don't even know what believe men would mean- I tend to believe them when they complain of sexual assault+, no slogan required.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 04:19 PM
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Why do women here try to assert that any man expressing frustration with dating must be undesirable or needs to improve in some way This is the entire point of The Red Pill. the vast majority of men are making these same observations now, hence why red pill is mainstream. If you go to any red pilled Facebook group the majority of the men there are above average looking, well groomed clean cut and witty/intelligent/well spoken.] Then according to Red Pill they shouldn't have issues. What would ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 11:04 PM
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As far as I see for the most part it's only commented on when brought up by said bros or posts like this. If it's something a demographic are responding to when being prompted, rather than some grass roots objection, they can't be that angry. You can tell the level of care by investment, and being primarily a prompted reaction that level is low. Conversely, people who actively broach the topic frequently are the ones who care a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 11:54 PM
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Not very. Regardless of the hobbies or activities I do, I do not feel feminine nor masculine in any. Affirmation of gender isn't a feeling I care for, therefore I do not feel it. Affirmation on 'making it' as your gender is imo as relevant as making it in marriage or any other cultural aspirations society sets. I've never questioned my gender. It just is.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 05:01 PM
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Contrast this with men who go entirely off of their own tastes. Why do women care so much about what other people think? This isn’t high school, this is real life. It’s just genuinely puzzling. Consultation leads to better decision making in general as others can provide a POV you failed to consider etc. A group consensus is more likely to be correct than an individual. Useful life advice all around really. What it shouldn't be is dictating your actions or basing them solely off others.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 11:08 AM
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They've been doing so without incident for decades in the UK. If trans men were to use womens bathrooms you don't need to identify as anything, because looking like a man is no longer a toilet barrier.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 11:49 PM
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How can you be bluepilled if you acknowledge the concept of "looksmatch" ? Wdym? BP was talking about leagues before RP was a glint in the milkmans eye....
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 05:00 PM
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While they play they're part, looks can also be... absent while we describe someone as charismatic. If we take another example, nation leaders are nearly always charismatic, their status is born of their charisma. Historically from Hitler to Ghandi, and even in the present day. Like former British PM Boris Johnson, there's a joke about even he doesn't know how many kids he has and he tends to trade up wives every so often.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 10:48 AM
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I don't think that has much to do with the separation of charisma from the concept of personality, which is the issue I took with your previous comment. Charisma is a set of behaviors, if we want to explore in average or less than average looking folk then comedians are a profession which is often high charisma that don't generally look like a Hollywood lineup. Both charismatic men and women tend to do well compared to their relative looks league.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 10:27 AM
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its more about charisma than personality thing Charisma is a personality thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 10:15 AM
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Yeah they were dirty, he'd been wearing them for a week or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 01:15 PM
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Older men have had all their flaws, kinks and problems unloaded on other women when they were younger, so that by the time you get them, you get all the good parts. It doesn't fit with my experience really. I'm a woman who consistently dated older men because that's how my attraction swings (rather than these cost -benefit calculations). My husband is 16 years older than me and we've been together 10 years. They have flaws. They have baggage. Most I dated were not independent in the way this wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 11:44 AM
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I don't think feminism adequately anticipated the negative impact of their language I don't think their language in this case has anything to do with why the pressure is being applied. It's just the impact of not wanting to be legally tied to another and child maintenance is sufficient.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 04:36 PM
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We both drive the car and often take turns on longer journeys. Both metaphorically and literally.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 01:54 AM
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Rational brain is not consulted.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 01:13 AM
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Ime they don't feel the need, they just jump right in when the opportunity presents itself. Not cheating (for anyone) is 95% not putting yourself if that situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 11:48 PM
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I'm married and we're in the same income bracket. I was thinking about my own wealth accumulation and the differences it makes practically. At the richest end the problems like only own X amount of property are not a hardship financially like unpaid mortgage neither can afford to keep.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 03:46 PM
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They're rich, they don't have money troubles alimony or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 09:11 AM
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You can see it in random trends or styles that suddenly become “hot” to women, or male “sex symbols” who are objectively ugly but fawned over by women to the point of hysteria. Contrast this with men who are simply drawn to objective beauty, and are actively repelled by women who are spoken for. Vetting isn't solely about objective beauty to begin with - how ugly you or anyone else finds them is immaterial to the point here. I consider your view quite solipsistic. Because men are drawn to X, and…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 12:12 PM
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Women who want to hookup are happy to hookup with men who just want to hookup.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 12:20 AM
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There is no x condition that's always successful, not for any pill. But in all pills sometimes x gets you what you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 12:15 AM
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A husband and a boyfriend? I'm confused by this whole thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 08:42 PM
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archaic hominids ​ This promiscuity led to uncertainty about paternity, resulting in descent being traced through the female line, known as mother-right, prevalent in ancient societies. None, they weren't tracing lines through male / female because that's really a concern that came much later. Tracing lineage is very human, not very monkey. Prior to hoarding and passing wealth to offspring there was no need for such.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 12:35 PM
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I don't believe hypergamy means getting someone above you; only that you'll go for the best you can get, and what is 'best' to one individuals values may be different than that of anothers. And that men also go for the best they can get, but their pool of values have some differences. Practically if only men 'dated down' then the best women and worse men would be perpetually single. More likely I believe this thinking comes from men overvaluing men, to the point they see a mens worth as inheritl…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 01:36 AM
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Should this man have faced consequences for an accusation alone? I don't think it was because of the accusation alone. The document says it was all weighed against his overall record of performance, and two separate conduct entities thought discharge was just. I would guess these don't have the same standards as criminal courts.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 01:00 PM
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Who is making bad decisions is completely dependant on the individual examples and situations. If person A is insecure, and getting mad/passive aggressive at the actions of person B, and person B in each instance acts defensively to this until one day when it all blows up; what proportion of the blame does each person hold?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 02:38 AM
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The other party isn't always be the better behaved persons. When people are insecure they can lash out, and those recieving usually lash back. It's not ideal, communication and reaction is a learnt skill. Plenty of older people still suck at it but few young adults are that sort of level out of the box.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 02:18 AM
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'Insecure' can also be levied against someone not opening up, commonly when they bottle up and then explode or making rules based on insecurities that haven't been communicated.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 02:00 AM
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Should women just not be worried when they are walking around at night and there is a strange man around? This is more like walking around with your partner and scared they will rape you, this is also very low chance. This isn't about strangers, its about the conduct of someone you have a intimate relationship with.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 10:35 AM
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According to them we need to trust every females word at all times No, they want you to trust your partner, the one who is willing get pregnant by you. then they should be fine without no-fault divorce. No fault divorces don't actually change anything, they didn't actually exist in the UK until 2022. Things like the separation of joint marital assets were not affected by fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 10:31 AM
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Roughly as many men as women are sexless, when looking over numerous years and numerous studies. There are a few outliers studies(1 sexless rise 2018 - this normalized in subsequent years, 1 relationship (not sexless) skew 2023 valentine pew research), I consider them brought up agenda driven rather than reality driven. The rise in STDs in both men and women is because both men and women are sleeping with more partners than in the past, in relationships or otherwise. Which is understandable. The…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 09:22 PM
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Considering the divorce rate for that age group, no they were not.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 08:44 AM
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Women are not men, if we wanted our friends we'd have them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 11:08 AM
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Telling men their standards are high because they don't want to date or pursue single moms for a LTR is absurd Depends on the man in question. Likewise women's standards can be too high for that particular woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 11:06 AM
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Why do older women not understand that most guys who end up with younger women are just playing the odds? And they say romance is dead. But really this doesn't track. While the pool is reduced, so is the pool of same age competitors and your far more likely to be attractive to someone closer to your own age.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 04:09 PM
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the man works 70 hours a week, works super hard, provides for his wife/children Maybe that's not what she wants, its what he wants. Depending on relative wealth and personal wants, there are many of us who would take less money for more time. Time is the most valuable currency we have.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 12:56 PM
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No, my first sexual experience guy was one of the easiest to move on from, because I didn't love him. My sexually strongest partners were post 21-22ishYO, because I hadn't really understood my sexuality prior to that. Plenty of people have a, in Blue Pill words, 'The one that got away' (idk why RP felt the need to reinvent the term from gender neutral to being about women when plenty of men have the same issue). While I'm sure some people are more about sex, I think that over simplifies the idea…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 09:58 AM
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The most literal translation is: blue = reality is as it seems red = reality is not as it seems Considering RP also professes to be based on observation the self flagellation doesn't make much sense. As far as I see the pills in practice or actuality: RP explain every situation as the worst case characteristics of humans, mostly as a result as being on the receiving end. BP explains every situation initially as the better cases, benefit of the doubt characteristics of humans, mostly as a result …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 09:17 AM
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If we boiled everyone's relationships down to just their facets we can confirm the rainbow of pills multiple times over on each, we just choose whichever rationale we want to apply. As far as the thread suggests she's swung to someone lesser in the big 3 attraction milestones of RP - looks, money and status. I guess the new guy won on personality. I've never heard of him, but I'm sure he'll be fine, still being rich and famous n all.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 12:16 AM
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When a population decreases, it means less tax revenue, It also means less expenditure, in todays world, with some exceptions. Though there are concerns scale aren't linear. ​ which means the government can no longer exert it's power or influence resulting in collapse. There has to be other, more defining contributing factors to get to collapse (based on historical evens) that can be mitigated. Many of those factors include war for land ownership which looks and works very differently than it ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 01:24 PM
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The last time there was a population went down as hard as we're predicting in the future, we got feudalism. A decentralized version of the system it replaced, which was also ruled by the wealthy. Its not the case of population decrease = feudalism, but population decrease required a different way of managing pots?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 12:39 PM
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So...massive amounts of immigration sending economies and politics haywire Below replacement birth-rates doesn't magically make migrants appear. Migrants are invited, to keep pyramid economies afloat by lazy politicians. But preserving the economic model isn't the only way.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 12:55 AM
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Im not trying to convince anyone to feel anything, I'm pointing out the reality of the situation when discussing on a debate board on the topic, because the wording used read odd to me. I guess like how some can get irritable when seeing others refering to their pets as their children, but amplified because we're talking about anthopomorphised objects.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 05:56 PM
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I have no doubt, but what's that got to do with the price of fish? A someone is a person, which the best AI will never be. Desire is an emotion, which is not what AI does. Being a good magicians is all about a convincing display; they're not actually practicing magic and we don't talk about them as if they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 04:50 PM
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AI is no one, and neither does it desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 10:43 PM
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I might have come across maybe 2 genuine stories of the like in my 10 years on Reddit. Most commonly people just take a story of some dead bedroom and make up the rest about these unknown characters in their heads.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 11:33 PM
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And they attend speed dating events XD.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 11:28 AM
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but the difference is, fat acceptance mostly focuses on the plight of women, not men. Historically men posting themselves online don't have women popping by in the comments to note their weight in the same way its apparently an impulse for men to notify every random woman's that her weight is unattractive to him. The advent of the internet really kicked it all off because the contrast was so stark; I always found it interesting men have this compulsion to let women know how they feel about them …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 01:44 AM
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People have the right to film in public places. But having to worry about being filmed all the time is something everyone could do without. It's no wonder anxiety is so high these days when any innocent misstep may be reinterpreted and thrown in your face forever. Many people don't want themselves filmed all the time regardless of what they're doing. As for hoeing around - On the one I saw (Which wasn't Manc) it was just people enjoying themselves and acting a bit daft, nothing out of the ordina…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 12:37 AM
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Have you been to England in the last like twenty years? There are quite possibly more religious Muslims than Church of England. 6.5% of the population is Muslim, according to 2021 census. A lot more write Christian but in practise few are. For the first time in a census of England and Wales, less than half of the population (46.2%, 27.5 million people) described themselves as “Christian”, a 13.1 percentage point decrease from 59.3% (33.3 million) in 2011 ... No religion” was the second most comm…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 12:28 AM
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I know some, they consider themselves foreveralone rather than Incel... Also why there were separate Reddit forums for such.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 11:44 PM
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This seems pretty incontrovertible: men commit 86% of all murders, among other things. I was hoping the same user would egage, but they conflates ideas like: more violent on average observation about average behaviour. More men than women displaying violent behavior does not mean expected average behavior, or that of the average man. My objection was going to follow through to the example about women and how RP leverages the behavior of some that is then conflated in the same way- expected avera…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 03:47 PM
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I thought Bluepill was just rejection of redpill, so maybe I'm not team blue. This is what BP say they are. The OPs Line is a caricature of what BP / a very specific BP type person.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 03:30 PM
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Most women will tell you that men are more violent and dangerous, which is true on average What's your definition of average?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 10:01 AM
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Divorce is a possible ultimatum down the line, but the boards about about how to support your husband, recognising addiction means set backs sometimes, and yes, putting a timeline for improvement on it if all else fails. I spent a good deal of time on them, they're heavily christian & conservative.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 04:52 PM
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Maybe if you paid attention to your own house, your partner wouldn't be addicted to porn and your kids wouldn't be feral little shits. The nofap boards, and the ones for their partners and wives are quite heavily conservative. Perhaps because the issue is seen as more of an issue there, or pressure from shame associated with conservative beliefs, but this isn't really a leftist thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 09:53 AM
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Lol yeah cause that's going swimmingly looking at how Genz turned out to be nothing more than a bunch of over sensitive adults who get offended by everything so ya... Great fucking job with that lol They'll be fine, just as we were fine and our parents were fine. This complaint against the younger generation goes back forever. Things change, we don't have to like it, but that's the way of the world, and their ways are as strange to us as ours were to the middle aged back then.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 12:53 AM
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Why would they swipe on more men? How many do you think we need?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 10:32 PM
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Time, affection and parenting are resources too in finite supply. Money as a resource isn't as valuable as it might have been when fighting to survive. Ultimately women feel jealousy, if we can figure out why that's the case through evolutionary pressures or not it doesn't change the fact they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 12:35 PM
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So this isn't a real phenomenon in your estimation, just crazy cat ladies screaming into the void 🤣? Yeah. I've never heard anyone irl say it, and only men saying women say it on the internet. No doubt there are some internet videos of women as such, but you can find anything you're looking for on the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 10:00 AM
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Casual is non committal, anything is on the table under that umbrella including a more friendly relationship with sex. I can't imagine wanting sex with someone I'm not spending time with as a friend also. I think some of the points are a bit overboard. If they're looking to move in then sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 01:08 AM
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Teens, especially younger teens are considered children in most places. It's not used as an exclusive classifier. Like Wikipedia also says The legal definition of child generally refers to a minor, otherwise known as a person younger than the age of majority.[1] Which is 18 in Scotland.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 02:02 AM
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Op is from Scotland. Same age pairings have been normal in the Britain for hundreds of years.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 04:55 PM
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I don't think this is true. The older category is negatively selected. The deadbeats are still there, and there's more of them relative to the available pool as the more desirable men have paired off already.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 12:53 PM
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This is just for marriages. Relationships there is a much wider range. Any data to support? I would have thought they're more common in marriages for resource reasons & they're typically older - basically I have more reason to believe that's the ceiling rather than the floor. The only anecdotes is I think the number of women dating >5 year younger men is growing.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 08:35 PM
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I'm on mobile so I'm just going to recant sources I remember, Age disparity in sexual relations Wikipedia details gap % as of some years ago, and links off to differences, most age desparity happening in second marriages is part of one of the pew research ones. The sexual attractiveness is the same study cited for men rating younger women more attractive, just the female respondents results where basically it's a year or two ahead of women's age until levels out at 30, with women older that 30 r…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 04:33 PM
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The plurality is within 1-2 years with the majority being within 3 years. Furthermore age disparity relationships are lower in Western countries than elsewhere, and famously when rating sexual attraction women tend to rate men their own range most attractive. Age disparity isn't female choice as a generalisation. There are certainly women who are attracted to much older or much younger men, but they're not most women. As men and women get older, age desparity in relations are observed more, mean…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 04:28 PM
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Are the women really into influencers not a red flag to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 07:53 AM
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Not sure if this has the intended effect. You make older men sound so appealing ....
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 07:47 AM
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Early 20's, hard cut off at 25. Yeah if you commit a crime you should pay your penance, but after that it's in the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 10:32 PM
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Another example: Women will blow a gasket if a man says he doesn't want to date an overweight woman, but at the same time will proudly declare that they don't think short men are real men worth dating. These people deserve each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 03:02 PM
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My hope is that he takes the RP, but don't subscribe to any particular ideology that steams from men getting screwed over by the system Last time I checked RP wasn't about dodging accountability for losing frame. Assaulting women is weak behavior in RP land too. I fail to see how he was screwed by the system, all they did was hold him responsible for his actions. RP may disagree when it's unjust, but that doesn't seem to be the case here.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 01:12 PM
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I could tell never been disciplined. No you can't, you're reinforcing a preconceived bias based on assumptions, its a circular loop. There's lots of studies into the subject from multiple institutes, cultures and times and they all agree; it doesn't help as a generalization. Take a good kid and good chance you end up with an anxiety ridden good kid who will grow up struggling to function for fear of making a mistake. Take a shit kid and there's a good chance you end up with a shittier kid who re…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 12:51 PM
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Why didnt she get pregnant then? I came like 40 to 50 times Maybe you are infertile, you should probably check that out if you care for kids in the future. That said depending how long this was all going on for, conceiving isn't a given. ETA she did say she has scars on her eggs... You mean ovaries, usually from endometriosis can make it difficult to conceive,
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 10:31 AM
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At the end of our relationship, she sat me down and told me her plan was to get pregnant and break up with me, so she could have the baby without me knowing. I mean this is a bit much.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 10:29 AM
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they can’t have sex with a woman’s personality/character/education etc so her attitude is irrelevant to them. ​ I’ve never met a man who says that , sounds like shit women tell each other. Red Pill Man I don't agree with OPS premise and I think they're stretching but this sentiment originates in The Red Pill. It used to be a popular phrase that encapsulates how RP view the value of men and women to each other, and an extension of what is 'brought to the table'. Its meant to mock women who calcul…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 10:17 AM
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Of course they’re exceptions to everything, You are the exception.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 08:45 PM
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that I instantly recognize this pattern, Whats the pattern? I would caution self improvement into the confidence area. Either you get what you want from the relationship or not. You can self reflect and adjust to what is reasonable if required, but if you're out looking for a pattern you're going to see it regardless of the reality, and in this case its a real danger it further harms your self esteem for no good reason. The Red Pill deals a lot in hyperbole and in this area a lot of circular log…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 01:07 AM
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Why is the birth rate plummeting in western society Along with cost etc, people didn't really used to aspire to much more than family, whether that be birthing or providing for them. That has changed. ​ what should be done to fix it? Is women choosing to not have kids a man’s issue? I don't think its really a gendered issue. It's economic system policy that takes issue with it. It requires replacement birthrate + to be sustained . In western society anyone who wants kids can have them without ne…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 05:00 PM
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That makes sense. But one example mentioned on another thread recently is how older women try to sabotage younger women's relationships out of jealousy These instances are rather small in scope, and I don't know if many really sit in the feminist space at all - I would think its most common presentation in toxicity of maternal figures vying for control of their offspring. Just No MIL type stuff. Jealousy is adjacent to, but infrequently a real motivator for feminism or MRA talking points, though…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 05:49 PM
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Interestingly, posits that women have a gini of .58 compared to male .60. This seems inconsistent with admitting the differential in attention received by women and men on dating apps. Dating apps are not about primarily about sex. Trying to force dating app numbers as a 1-2-1 about the SMP isnt going to get great results, many are built for and are used by women for the RMP. With ones more suited to it, like Tinder, men outnumber women 3-1 up to 9-1 in some regions covering much of the disparit…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 10:59 AM
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We can not be independent in this way from each other because the world and society is not build or defined by one gender alone. In some ways we will always be at behest or dependent on a social structure built by or for someone else. There's plenty of state apparatus that are feminine in role; such as education, state healthcare etc. I would propose people are subordinate to subjects and roles rather than genders. Two people can be subordinate to each other on different subjects no ? Now she is…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 01:44 PM
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They're not complementary, in strict evolutionary terms the most fitting strategy a man can employ is to indiscriminately mate with as many fertile women as he can. In contrast, the most fitting strategy a woman can employ is to mate with the highest quality man she can and secure his genes and resources solely for herself. As you can see both are in direct conflict with each other This presents very differently over many species. There's a limit for humans, that is how much paternal investment …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 12:17 AM
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Scarcity. Men don't like to be valued for their wallet and being a walking ATM, but women -do- want to be valued on other things they bring to the relationship including money. All of this is in moderation. Sex object or ATM, it's the same at the end of the day. A thing, not a person. People want to be valued for everything they are rather than a single role or attribute.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 12:11 AM
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That guy who she thought was a creepy bridge troll who hit her up and who she wished would crawl back under that bridge from where he came suddenly is remembered more fondly. Suddenly, he turns into the guy who could see how special she was. And when she's out and about, those rare cat calls she receives won't be as poorly received as it used to be. Well I'm out of the race being married, but in mid 30's my single friends are still telling creepy bridge trolls to crawl back under.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 03:33 PM
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But that's like a 10% chance. Its not a flat 10% chance, like if she works and you're not rich, its more of a 0% chance. Alimony is given in cases there's a large disparity in income, for a period of time so the no/lower earner doesn't become immediately destitute. Its rich people with a SAHP. They don't just roll a dice to see if alimony applies- like everything its situation dependant. ETA: and while its not near even currently, not all that 10% is paid by men either
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 01:12 AM
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I think immigrants and those with mental health issued fit the idea of modern underdog better.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 08:10 PM
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In the UK the crime of Rape requires penetraition (of any orafice) from historical definitions. Being forced to penetrate is a crime, and sexual offenses cover more than those two acts. I imagine the media do not know the specifics of the sexual assault that occured and are repeating charges when reporting on it. I'm all for the definition being changed. And I'm not buying a book, the source should exist independent of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 11:11 AM
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Then I don’t understand this huge discourse about men not doing 50/50 of the childcare and house hold work when men work longer at jobs. Do most men work longer at their jobs or is it the aggregate of men & women's job time? This might not apply to the relationships of the people complaining about it either way.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 11:34 PM
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That's great for men who are trying to date men, why would heterosexual men care about how men perceive their value? Especially as many of the comments are considered to come from less successful men? If you want a gender flipped of the phycology at play I think age gap relationships is a apt subject to consider.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 01:09 PM
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The point is Women do the same (as do men). There's an affair subreddit somewhere I suggest everyone read, it's mostly women, with affair partners, who don't want to leave their spouses.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 12:16 AM
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It doesn't necessarily means the man wants to stay. It could the mans affair was discovered, she innitates divorce and that's why they get remarried so quickly, because they're already swinging. ETA: I don't think the desparity or anything is enough to call it male behaviour, but it's not one that's particularly hidden either which tickles me when it's considered a solely female behaviour. Literally US previous POTUS is an example of hypergamic, trading up branch swinging.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 12:08 AM
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Men aren’t hypergamous in the same way women are, women will monkey branch, aka go from one man to the next, After divorce, it is men that remarry more often, and faster than women. 'monkey branching' is a old stereotype that was usually associated with men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 12:01 AM
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Oh he can't ask for a paternity test but I can have my go bag just Incase... The double standards They're not usually within the same comment, I don't presume they're the same people unless I see it is. Especially on PPD, more likely to comment when they disagree with the premise of whatever the OP is, while those who agree don't comment- the sub is set up like this to spur debate. I think discomfort at paternity testing and not having a go bag is where most women are. I've never even considered…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 09:38 AM
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Cheating is higher, though misattributed paternity is much lower % than cheating. As cheating and getting pregnant from such while staying with a long term partner is extra steps. To the point the percentiles of misattributed paternity and child sex offenders may be pretty comparable. The high estimate for both is around 10%.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 10:24 PM
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So the “sexless and lonely” men surge in data is a myth? That’s the road you want to go down? As far as I'm aware, the data suggest men and women have a similar rates of sexlessness, loneliness is neither restricted to those outside a romantic relationship nor is only about romantic relationships but more often in the context of familiar or platonic relationship maintenance. Regardless people can and do choose themselves out of sex or relationships with their options.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 04:36 PM
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I don’t speak to them. Why do someone a disservice of entertaining a relationship where I’m not attracted? You want people to suffer? I'm reconciling your comment with the 'Women are choosers' bit. If your choice is 'Am attracted to them' and their choice is 'Am attracted to them' you both are exercising the same choices. Likewise; The number of “boss babe” pain in the ass women I’ve heard about, plated, and wanted a relationship with me I can’t even count off hand. Suggests again your choice is…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 02:53 PM
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Women are inherently the choosers. All she needs to be is hot and wanting to join my life. What if someone is not hot and is trying to choose you
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 02:47 PM
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To be an incel, the guy needs to be a virgin, but not voluntarily Some of the incel community, within or here are not virgins, but currently celibate - or are not celibate but use prostitution / not getting as much sex / casual sex as the individual wants. I don't think virginity is a requirement of those who interact or identify as incel.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 10:58 AM
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Sounds fine for STR, basically play the numbers game. If you don't have success, you start making concessions on those areas.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 10:44 PM
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Imv RP used to be much better defined than it is currently, as now just general manosphere figures may or may not be seen as RP and some disagree with points of others. What RP was when more homogeneous, is It took observations and gave it's reasoning to why that behaviour exists, sometimes applying that reasoning to another action or area. BP for the most part disagrees with either the strength of the observation (it's a subset of people and shouldn't be generalized across a gender) or the reas…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 09:22 PM
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B guy is married in his 20s after 1 or 2 relationships, likely has a smaller but more marriage driven dating pool than A, A is married in his 30s after some goofing. They both get what they want, as their subcultures also contain women who want the same things as them (but they don't intersect) Depends what dating success means to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 05:11 PM
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This study was not limited to attractive psychopaths, nor was the suggestion those without those traits are not as physically attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 04:11 PM
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Chimps are polygynandrous for mating, males have quite good reproductive success in all hierarchical standings.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 02:39 PM
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Most of you know the type. Rude to strangers, wears his hat backwards. Seems completely uninvested in every conversation he's a part of. Idk, this seems like a rather specific image of a guy you have in your mind that would treat women poorly. Men who treat women poorly, the men that women complain about don't look or act like any one stereotype . Some are overweight, middle aged men with strong community ties. Some are Chad Chadderson, some are as in your example Chav Chavverton. Many are in th…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 02:11 PM
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Who told you that men treat people according to how much they like them? PPD? Or at least its the basis of many a argument about what women like.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 01:29 PM
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I don't understand women when they say I need you to help out more with chores to get into the moment When it's genuine; Because the resentment makes him unattractive. If you want a RP type spin the man is coming across weak, unable to get his shit done without having to be told, failed taking the lead etc etc. Because she's genuinely tired and sex is exercise, not really enjoyable to coast through.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 01:01 PM
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Theyre not the kind of stats you can get in single data sources. That said I believe the delusion calculators are badly designed with non contigous data anyway, meaning their results are much more restrictive than reality because they exclude the same person twice while doubling up on the percentage etc. ETA; For relationships men generally care about education, income etc, somewhat relative to the individuals circumstances and not to the extent of women, but if you're thinking of being with som…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 11:05 AM
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Last one before I met my husband... He was chatty, too chatty for me. I'd met him through mutual friends a few times before, when we went for a first date he was already at the point of repeating stories I'd heard.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 08:47 AM
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The comments on that are pretty damn mild. I counted 4 disapproving of those standards from women in about the first couple of scrolls(and half of those deff don't know who he is) ... Women saying similar spur whole reactionary YouTube channels to profit from the mass seething.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 03:28 PM
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explain how when these psychopaths get caught and publicized, they end up becoming even more popular with women throwing them selfs at him. Hybristophilia. Attraction to criminals. Not relevant to the majority of women imo, alike to how pedophilia is not relevant to the majority of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 08:40 AM
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Most of the founders of the RP used to be young men. Most are now married... I think because RP began existence at a time when individuals parents were divorcing in large numbers. The 'sidedness' of divorce was more prominent as more men made much more money than their wives at that time and SAHM were still very common. While divorce laws have hardly changed the 'sidedness' is much reduced in the current day.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 08:30 AM
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A lesser talked about implication of these studies... Personality > Looks. Or at least personality can make you hotter. Psychopaths seem very good at selling themselves, at least in limited doses in the short term. Their lack of empathy means lying and presenting themselves inaccurately is easy and convincing. These people don't go into dates or record these thing putting across the stereotypical Hollywood psychopathic behaviour. Conversely they don't date for long and are quite incapable at kee…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 11:37 PM
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Incorrect, that's why the whole passport bros is a thing it is an attempt to find these quality women outside of the west. If AWALT is AWALT then they don't exist more outside the west than inside it. It in itself would strengthen environmental elements affecting the dating market over evolutionary biology.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 11:23 PM
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I guess the red pill worked for me but I used it to get a girlfriend rather than spin plates Depends, if its via leveraging hypergamy and beta qualities you can still be Red Pill, because you believe the world of STR/LTR works like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 11:20 PM
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I don't know if they're good examples of therapeutic language. The point between 'he's a creep' and 'I feel uncomfortable around him' is the former directs fault and classification straight at this hypothetical him, while the second is a neutral to internal observation.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 05:27 PM
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TRP accepts there are times when its fine to be emotionally vulnerable. Its more of a 'don't be weak over stuff that doesn't really matter', and even then I would add 'repeatedly and consistently' to that for it to actually have an effect. It's probably somewhat relative. Those in a warzone have a different bar than those in a peaceful country. ​ What do you think about this topic from a RATIONAL point of view? I this fear isn't rational, its completely hyperbolic. Triggering disgust here isn't …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 11:39 AM
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That doesn't equal 80%... You don't just meet in the middle on those stats. Not to mention those stats are largely made up of boomers that experienced a different marketplace.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 06:19 PM
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IMV Nature is to precure offspring/replicate, and that's as far as it's influence goes. Monogamy would be as natural as any other method to achieve it, restricted mating methods are not good for survivability. There are all sorts of configurations to mating and replication of organisms ; the point is offspring, and how each goes about it is heavily influenced by environment and other factors in their biology (and visa versa - environment also influences evolution through selection). A species is…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 01:40 PM
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Eventually I met two girls both basically far right, one Eurasian and one European who share my politics and we get along fine. ​ We agree on immigration (ban it) Wild, immigrants bashing immigrants. My husband and I are of different political leanings, but we're neither entrenched beyond reason nor extreme in our beliefs.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 10:57 AM
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Big handsome man 🙂
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 07:54 PM
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It's BHM for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 05:46 PM
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Most people 'win', within the definition of winning by BP, while BP. Those that don't, or reject that definition of winning are the other pills. While everyone talks about Disney, in nearly every legacy movie it's the Prince that gets the Princess.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 09:17 AM
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I care about monogamy so cheating is detrimental to the point it is low value - a heavy item on the scales. I've been cheated on where I tried to forgive and continue, but there was no going back to how things were and the end of that relationship was a feeling of relief I haven't forgotten. ...For a situation where those terms would be okay with me: If I didn't love him. Theoretically there's a reality where me & husband would stay married and both have other partners, but that's polyamerous ra…
/r/RedPillWomen28/10/23 07:57 PM
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In general, no. Some are those same people, but every social media and forum on the internet suffers from bias. The group that choose to be here and comment in anger are a subset of people debating unmitigated and unchallenged by most, because frankly the rest have not reason or desire to be here. Communities are self selecting and recognising this bias goes a long way in compartmentalizing the worst interactions. We are also biased. The worst interactions can get to us if we let them. I'm sure …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 01:58 AM
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That's like a person living in a mansion wondering why apartment dwellers are obsessed with mansion magazines. Weird thing to be obsessed about tho either way? I don't think I've ever met someone obsessed with mansion magazines or mansion anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 10:15 AM
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No, it's not what the court tests, technically. Quite rightly, for the state to incarcerate someone guilt must be proven beyond reasonable doubt. If anyone is familiar with confusion matrix then it's minimizing false positives which provide routes for false negatives. This is how it should be, even if the cost is more guilty folk walking free.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 07:20 AM
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THE human experience though. Not A human experience. Not unless you get all the humans together and collate their anecdotes in some sort of... study.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 12:56 PM
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Not all of them are Idk... The number of that level of sports car on the street, the chances they're pulling over for girls, the chance that this is soon after someone cold approaches the same girl and the chances that someone's filming at the same time? Lot of uncommon things have to line up in the perfect timeline here.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 12:39 PM
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I believe the correct term is divorce rape Child support/maintenance is a separate entity to marriage. Marriage or divorce isn't required.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 11:21 PM
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Humans are more or less a “tournament species” More less. We are neither that nor monogamous as our sexual dimorphism exists greater than monogamous spiecies, but is too minor compared to actual tournament species. We are adaptive and flexible.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 11:19 PM
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Women will buy perfect male partners too. I'd imagine they'd be a bit different, focussed towards female ideals. This sort of realism and capability goes well beyond sex bots (like, no one is required to hire humans for work anymore level... We are talking about a completely different economy and way of life we can only speculate on) . No reason women wouldn't get in on these, you can essentially buy yourself something better than a top tier man.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 10:49 PM
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but the majority of American women don't follow your line of thinking. They're rather irrelevant to this sub, and this topic. This isn't a place for struggling men to come to vent, and many women here do not want to engage with such either way. RPW generally value marriage and loyalty, including sexual fidelity. They will respond to other RPW accordingly.
/r/RedPillWomen15/10/23 10:57 PM
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RP agrees that based on looks alone, women are incredibly more shallower and selective than men, something which you as a woman would also agree with. I don't think so, it agrees women are more selective across the board as women must be more selective as they pay a higher price and shoulder the burden for sex, with the risks being mitigated if in a committed relationship, but men are more visual and care more about that, biologically. Hence the sexual dimorphism between sexes showing strong sex…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 10:26 PM
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Red pill does place some emphasis on looking good, but RP is more concerned with game, frame and status for dating rather than vanity. Blackpill is the lookism pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 09:40 PM
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I have noticed that BPillers often recommend having a big social circle if you want to get laid regularly That's bs. It's unrealistic for everyone to be a social butterfly, especially some man who has probably been unpopular his whole life. Look, if you want to live exceptionally you have to be exceptional. There is no get rich scheme here and the advice given if good to achieve the desired outcome, BP can't do the actual work for you too. Sometimes we are limited because of who we are. That's j…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/23 09:53 PM
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1 Females always lie down about ther body count, out of fear of judgement, while men always lie up, for the same reason Having had sex in the last year is not the same as body count.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 03:43 PM
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Limiting the perspective to high value men or women is a bit irrelevant to the dating scene in general, but sure. In 2023 women with wealth and status do the same as gendered roles are less defined and influential in all areas of life. When most people think of age gaps, they're thinking of their peers, and negative selection.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 01:34 PM
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That's interesting and not so far away from what I'm saying That's not really the vibe I was getting from your OP. You're hypothetical men and women are not considered they're shooting above their league at all when shooting younger.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 11:48 AM
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Women dislike it for the same reason men and others dislike it - perceived inequality. There's lots of research on the subject, the below goes into detail, including the fact age nor gender changes these perceptions. ​ Perceived inequity predicts prejudice towards age-gap relationships https://www.researchgate.net/publication/325808795_Perceived_inequity_predicts_prejudice_towards_age-gap_relationships We found that age-gap, as compared to age-matched, couples were more disliked and perceived as…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 11:36 AM
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I mean it’s not just a travel thing, it’s just looking for a decent partner. Yes, I mean if it was easier to find a partner & that was their intention I'd expect some to be partnered.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 12:16 PM
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Divorced after marrying an American woman. But that was a long time ago. But after doing some traveling, I just don’t see myself settling for an American. Thats fine I find a notable disconnect in these discussions here where relationships and marriage are pushed as a plus, meanwhile no one advocating how easy it is seems to be in a relationship nor married despite being well travelled. I'm undecided if this is deliberate misdirection to sex tourism, or just over advocation.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 12:03 PM
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Dating is just better elsewhere. Whether a woman is financially stable or not. It’s a lot easier to find a “marriage material” partner in other parts of the world. You don't specify if you are married OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 11:58 AM
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men's threats about artificial wombs are not to be taken seriously Why does any woman care about men's threats about artificial wombs? That, along with stem cell production of eggs / sperm means they're an amazing advancement for women too, it means no pregnancy bollocks and no biological clock. Get behind this ladies, emancipation for everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 08:28 AM
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It exists in 95% of human societies, and throughout history - it has been the norm. Its more nuanced than 80/20. In most societies throughout history most men have been paired in someway, with somewhere between 20-40 not being. Even in societies where polygamy was permissible you still found as many or more monogamous pairings. There are some periods that do not (advent of agriculture, Genghis Khan), but these are anomalies to the rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 10:44 PM
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Ye, you won't be dating forever tho if successful, GL.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 11:14 PM
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I don't think its unethical, I don't think its very accurate with 1 in 4 you're probably getting a load of false positives, lower end AI will hallucinate like that. I wouldn't talk about it with dates. It makes you look bad weird, you're going through someone's internet history. Otherwise I can't imagine you're running many women though it when looking for LTR dating anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 11:10 PM
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When those evil game devs try sneaking a women who is not hot enough into videogames tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 01:08 PM
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Make the first move. You get what you want with less worry he's targeting young women for nefarious or loser reasons.
/r/RedPillWomen09/09/23 02:32 PM
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The only thing we do here is argue beliefs.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 09:36 PM
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It's literally the definition of Purple Pill on this sub. Someone still swallowing the Redpill is often stuck in the anger phase, and they'll call themselves Red Pill regardless. Many people come here red or blue and end up purple, you're free to disagree with them on what they believe but you don't have to make up categories for them. They don't have to be prescriptive, anyone can disagree with RP evopsych theories that are the basis for the advice. RP ultimately sells itself as 'The Truth', no…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 09:21 PM
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PP is fully aware, believing some parts of RP and some parts of BP to be the truth. Mixing red and blue, creating purple.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 09:12 PM
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From my brief reading doesn't seem like there's much to make of it at all. Celeb mags will invent all the drama and suggestions they can, as will all the drama kings and queens that follow and feel they have to pick a side.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 02:51 PM
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​ Why would anyone sign a contract that the other person can break for any reason whatsoever and usually face no repercussions ? ... I mean your wife can literally divorce you to get with another guy and face 0 repercussions. Marriage as a contract is the religious and/or social & economic unity of two persons in the eyes of their god and/or the law. If one party no longer wishes to be in that union.. Why is that bad? Why should there be repercussions? What is required to be made whole in this s…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 12:18 PM
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A beautiful woman with Dorito dust in her cleavage would not face similar criticism. Because beauty is worth in women, as dictated by men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 11:58 PM
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Well, he also boasted about ripping men, specifically his consumers off.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 04:31 PM
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If this board is to be believed Chad isn't wasting his time in relationships. So who IS in relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 11:43 PM
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They don't need to be sharing for a man to say he's not in a relationship and the woman does. I think though, the pew questions were quite explicit. It asked if they were in a committed relationship, which is t as open to interpretation. More than anything else, pew doesn't match census data; so I'm more suspect about their data collection methods. It shouldn't have that much a disparity, perhaps respondents are purposely fucking with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 03:27 PM
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very vocal about wanting to hire more women Why do they want this?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 12:25 PM
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What are you blue pillers' opinions and perspectives regarding the concept of hypergamy? I don't think its shooting above a league, or dating up. A single measurable does not determine ones league. It is inevitable in a relationship one partner will be better than the other in a given single area. The hypergamy definition here restricts those traits to those that women value, and men traditionally provide. Hypergamy is also when men decide to go for women who are younger (well, technically that'…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 09:37 AM
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[In the US] I consider myself a 7 and I pretty much get no attention from any 7s on apps. On the other hand in these countries, I match with 7s-8s all day. The women are absolutely gorgeous and a lot of times they're sending me the 1st message. .... On top of matching with them, the women in these countries are not ran through, the hookup culture in these countries isn't as bad. I'm a bit confused, do you not have more hookups outside the USA? You describe the non US women as less selective and …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 03:18 PM
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Yeah. We both work from home, and are already in each others vicinity 95% of the time, and have been for nearly a decade.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 12:14 PM
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You can train it to an extent, but genetics in fat stores will be the determining factor. It's not unreasonable for women to want a partner taller than her, most men are without trying. If everyone was pared together randomly, women would be the taller in 7% of pairings. In actuality 4% of women are taller than their partner, displacing 3%. I'm 5'3, the only guy I know at my height is my dad. If you wanted something uncontrolble then there is age that presents as a stronger male preference.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 08:25 AM
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I think that’s more industry and location dependent more than income dependent . I never knew one female software engineer ...that was single? They work in a sausage factory & they're, as you note, less atheistically inclined than the types of people who work in other fields.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 01:13 PM
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It's a sexually dimorphic trait. Like tits and ass, genders don't have to care equally.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 07:18 AM
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Well, basically women have casual sex and then requiere their husbands to do housechores to suck his dick... Casual sex is usually a product of the guys time, effort and (mutual) entertainment, in some cases the provisioning of fun and validation too, they're usually activity engaging and courting the woman for hours / days/ weeks beforehand for that casual sex to then happen sometimes. It doesn't drop out of the sky. The shortest version is women's spontaneous desire to have sex (more or less f…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 10:33 PM
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Incels most likely don't hit on anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 10:15 PM
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there is scientific evidence that promiscuity can reduce a persons ability to pair bond due to reduced oxytocin levels after sex. I haven't seen any yet, and I've been on PPD a long time.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 10:09 PM
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What I mean by universally helpful is that even an ugly person can follow the advice and not have to say "Thanks for nothing, this hasn't helped at all" Maybe there isn't any universally helpful advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 11:53 AM
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I was talking to a girl with whom I clicked personality-wise, and I tried to gouge whenever I 'd pass the 'looks threshold'. Her only criteria to what makes a man who she already likes as a person bangable was that he isn't 'her dads age', doesn't have ugly, rotten, or othwerise gross teeth, doesn't smell of old sweat and doesn't have a scary face. She, surprise surprise, 'doesn't see me that way' . Just ask her for a date. Women are not wasting time going on a date with someone that doesn't pas…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 01:34 PM
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The personality of this tree is non existent....
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 01:23 PM
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Using a resource you have in excess to expedite a process to get something you want is just what everyone does. Its easier for him to spend 200K on something he wants than it is a poor person to spend 10 on something they need. Money is relative. Its pennies to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 09:11 AM
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very selective using the exact wrong criteria. Dating apps have limited criteria available for selection, what is available dictates that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 09:59 AM
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That's rather relative to their starting point. If we're focussing on that point; Yes, don't be shorter than her, that's the most obvious trend there and basically what women say most often when asked here. Otherwise inch by inch there isn't a whole lot in it men and womens relative preferences, with men being more variable based on their own height. As there are no axis its hard to tell but for average heights respectively they might come in about the same % of those who like overall.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 02:13 PM
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Purely based on this, one could say that women are 4 times more heightist than men. How did you work that out?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 01:01 PM
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can get all of the benefits without the commitment? You don't, if sex is the only benefit you confer I'd say you are a minority of men. Most guys can't seem to FWB without falling for women and wanting exclusivity.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 11:29 AM
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It wasn't an executive and they did not confirm this graph.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 07:51 AM
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Been seeing more of my cohort go for younger men for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 12:01 AM
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The study was done when you still got free filters. There isn't a study. There isn't a verified source or anything from it - Bumble doesnt release data like this or ever claimed this data. It was just a graph that appeared on twitter one day with the Statista logos on.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 11:58 PM
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Yes, and where do the numbers come from? 3, 18, 39, 95? ("Previously, on LoOoOost") We don't have that information, we rarely do. All things considered, when you see a respondent-spouse difference in one sex but not the other, it screams "p-hacking artefact" to me. It could be, it could be it was worked by the authors and just those lines released to publications or others accessed the data. I've failed at finding another someone once linked a full study that was pretty comprehensive that sugges…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 10:42 AM
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I believe its from https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2501480 The study was conducted with other aims and its mentioned as a relationship in their results Other interesting results emerge in Tables 2 and 3. In the sample of all persons, greater differences in age and education between husband and wife and reporting that one’s partner’s looks were important in the decision to marry are both significantly associated with a higher hazard of divorce These are the correct authors bas…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 09:05 PM
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If they're objectively well proportioned, pretty or handsome. Some subjective things like men with long hair and goatees. What I'm attracted to is less evident to me. My husband didn't have a goatee prior to us getting together, but I remember the exact point the spark got me.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 09:39 PM
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No, there's lots of people who are attractive, I can look at and say they're attractive people, that I personally have no spark or desire (or feel any attraction) for.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 09:28 PM
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If you're getting a date via online dating you're hitting the looks threshold for that woman (meh, honestly you're probably far exceeding the threshold based on how women select on OLD). She isn't making effort and going out on a date purposefully that's a waste of her time. Everything sparky after that is personality. I think women struggle more with the deciphering spark likelihood from OLD.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 09:24 PM
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F. I have people who I wish hadn't hurt me, but there is no wish I was with them now over my husband. Ultimately the path through my life, including the pain, led me here and to him so I'm not so bothered by it. It's not that they're special, it's that they took something away that was replaced with cynicism.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 09:18 PM
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To add OP, - If she acts like a slut but has no sign of perforations in her hymen what would you presume? -Likewise if she acted like a saint but with scar tissue on the hymen what would you presume? In both cases I think its rather everything else that matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 09:22 AM
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They don't say to completely ignore it entirely, though. Making conservative recommendations doesn't supersede that it does go on in the rest of the document why its about as reliable as consulting the stars.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 09:19 AM
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Edit.. I meant a torn hymen alongside evidence of a woman who seems experienced. You're still missing the mark. 'Intact' hymen is not an indicator either.... like ​ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/14702498/ A retrospective case review of 36 pregnant adolescent girls who presented for sexual abuse evaluations was performed to determine the presence or absence of genital findings that indicate penetrating trauma. Historical information and photograph documentation were reviewed. Only 2 of the 36 s…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 08:15 AM
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Well, least PPD has moved on from no one wanting sluts.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 11:06 PM
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Unions of two people in the eyes of their deity's existed before abrahamic religions.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 11:03 PM
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why did she feel the need to be "saved?" One of the founding fathers of TRP , Roosh V did the same thing- became super religious, withdrew his PUA/MRA books from sale, forbade talk of casual sex on his forum and disavowed the whole thing. In his case it was the death of his 31yo sister that was seemingly the catalyst. Stereotypically its a major life event that the individual struggles to deal with that 180's them towards religion in this way. In either case previous promiscuity will be an issue…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 11:20 AM
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Men are neither attractive nor unattractive unless there is some sort of sexual context where I then make that assessment. It's not normal for me to think of random men in a sexual way or as a potential mate or score them or anything. They're just people going about their business, getting where they need to go. When I was looking however I only considered long haired guys with goatee or beard as my type... So that probably ruled out 95% of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 11:37 PM
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the top 5% of guys have about 3-5 times the sex as the guys in the top 20%! Not all guys want to sleep with anything, and on top of that not all guys want to sleep around a lot. The ability to get sex is not well tested by these measurements alone because it doesn't measure what people want; only what the outcome is. Take for instance a man who wants and is in a relationship, over years his n count stays 1 but it never measures his ability to get sex elsewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 09:38 AM
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data on both sides is pointless. Its not pointless. If we say men lie up and women lie down, then we also know the truth lies somewhere in the middle of those two numbers.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 09:34 AM
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Ah, to throw more spanners they don't use OLD. I don't know anyone who uses OLD really.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 07:14 AM
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Since when can something only work, if it works for everybody? That's just silly. Not everyone who goes on a diet while actually lose weight. Still dieting works. Are you really going to pretend that if there's one person for whom something doesn't work, you can claim that that things doesn't work? BP works for most people but we're not considering that in the equation; The idea was brought up how many people it works for means its 'The Truth', scientifically speaking. I've long believed the adv…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 11:29 PM
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because the claims the manosphere make can easily be tested against reality and science. Most can not. AWALT & LMR are not tested anywhere and don't pass the sniff test. Hypergamy in science is not like the hypergamy of the manosphere which is a bastardized version of the usage. Likewise pre-selection in the manosphere is a bastardized version of the phenomenon studied. The best evidence for 80/20 is based on an old blog post while there is a whole body of scientific work ignored that says other…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 07:51 PM
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When men have to choose between two women who are identical in every aspect except one, which is their level of promiscuity, the vast majority of men will prefer the less promiscuous woman to the promiscuous one. Being closer to the debated age range than most of the sub, all my single female friends are low n. Like 3/4n. women who are fairly reserved and introverted. High n women meet a lot of men, they also tend to be extroverted. Even IF its just a numbers game we're talking about here, my hi…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 07:29 PM
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Less unfortunately featured people won't post there as often. If they confirm to a hard gaussian distribution, but the data isn't representative it's probably underrating most.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 07:17 AM
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OP can you point out anything where someone has suggested giving her flowers on the first date and being a super nice guy and a gentleman is the key to getting laid. Getting laid must be the obvious context, preferably it should outright say it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 11:44 AM
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Counts rather than means in this instance would be useful. I was thinking of the Pew Research on this Though 'Tends to' may be quibbling over the definition, 45% of couples without a outright male breadwinner is still a large proportion eligible to complain. It might not be the male breadwinner portion complaining much.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 09:52 AM
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entirely neglecting the fact that men in relationships and marriages tend to significantly outearn their female partners. When adjusted for SAHP and removing old people I don't think this is true. In the western world most couples make around the same amount.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 07:15 AM
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All of those countries are more femanist than the USA.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 10:04 AM
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It's been legal about 40 odd years in the UK.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 07:25 AM
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Is that a new thing in the USA?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 07:11 AM
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Combining assets also increases excess earnings for the duration. You have things like half a mortgage and if it ends only half an asset, but items like set price utilities, MOTs, car services & insurance ect are thousands a year in savings for supplying one household instead of two. If your choosing someone in a similar financial situation there's nothing to loose, it's only gains.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 07:05 PM
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Yeah each to their own, it's a good solution for you because you already want those things, not so easy for those who don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 04:18 PM
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Or just don't get married and then it doesn't matter. If the relationship fails you just date someone new. Everyone's rebuttal is just you need to pick perfectly like that is so easy or realistic. People don't like being cheated on because it hurts, not because signing a divorce paper is hard. In an adult (rather than teen or young adult) LTR if you have any sort of combined assets (house, goods, car) , which is likely then you still go through a divorce type split of having to divide those. I w…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 01:11 PM
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their marriage seemed to be a significant causal factor of their misery Good news is divorce is available? Do you think its marriage specifically that made them unhappy, or being together?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 01:06 PM
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If that's true, why don't heterosexual women date women if they get equally aroused by men and women? Wanting a man, or dick. For me dick is a big thing in wanting to have sex with that dick. I haven't tested my arousal towards intact transwomen but the hypothetical doesn't repulse me. Infrequently in a position with other women where there is an intimate sexual context to even spark thoughts of bisexuality. Maybe the more confusing concept ; Physical and mental arousal base has more layers to i…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 10:47 AM
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I think gender presentation (specifically) matters in cases of heterosexuality / homosexuality. Though again I think this matter less for women than it does men. There's some more famous studies in arousal differences between men and women. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2739403/ By contrast, women rated photos of both sexes comparably. Consistent with these findings, Costa, Braun, and Birbaumer (2003) reported equal levels of subjective arousal in women to photos of same sex nudes…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 10:25 AM
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If personality was all that mattered, Looks matter. They matter more for determining your pool or league and for STRs, less for relationships. Personality also matters for creating sexual attraction. There is no guarantee being the best in either of those characteristics will create sexual attraction in the woman you want, though you will have more options in either case. ​ I don't think most people believe they matter as much to women as they do to men because; -Imagine a world where cheerleade…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 09:04 AM
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Q4W: how do you feel about a man offering to pick what to order for you at a restaurant No, it's weird and comes across pushy. Tell her you recommend XYZ. Then the balls in her court and you have made it clear you are happy to pay for more expensive dishes.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 08:56 AM
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We use to try and shock the autism out of people too, but here we are. Less discrimination is a good thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 03:23 PM
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My mother and grandmothers generation had the highest divorce rates, and im 35.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 10:38 AM
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No. If I'm interested in a man I'm interested in a man. I had no expectations going in. If it was a man I'm interested in and he wants to pick up the bill its a bonus 'Omg he's amazing'. If it was a man I'm not interested in and he wants to pick up the bill I insist on paying my half. YMMV. Different women think of things differently in this area.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 10:59 AM
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She wasn't that into you, and either from her own experience and insecurities or reading into something you said during this period she thought it was a good idea to exit via excuse rather than directly. Its probably not a scam, she didn't get anything more than you out of the encounter than you did unless a hours time is a good investment for lemonade minus bus fairs... (It isn't... everyone has better things to do ). Even if conversation is going well and your the hottest person in front of a …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 10:43 AM
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Anti social personalities, which include but are not limited to dark triad can be present in both men and women. If the mental impairment is minor they can do well or very well. If not then they tend to be losers, while we hear about ASPD CEOs we know there are far more ASPD losers than winners. They're pretty good at attracting short term relationships and pretty terrible at long term, most of them mask and that only works for so long. It's important to note; they start relationships by pretend…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 01:45 PM
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women consistently show in many studies strong height preferences. Studies about height preferences, as far as I've seen posted on here, do not measure the strength of preferences. Much like those studies say men have a height preference. Because when you are asked by a study to give a height, you give a height. All we have here is a floating chart, which I don't even know if it released by Bumble because it doesn't seem to exist on Statista and has no real source. I've tried and failed to sourc…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 08:40 AM
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While it's not representative of all women, it's a very significant representation of the primary dating aged women. The data doesn't note how many of the users use height filter. Naturally women who care less about height may not use it at all, meaning there's potentially a large userbase of 'Do not care' missing from this data.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 08:30 AM
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It doesn't matter if there are men than don't see it as a win. They're not the men the women who employ this sort of vetting want either so the situation here is mutual. That woman may or may not have had sex with someone else faster. That's not a given. This insecurity is an understandable attempt to measure how much a woman likes you is based in how fast she'll sleep with you. It has some merit, but it's highly dependant on the values of the person you're dealing with.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 09:35 AM
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I don't think this should have been applied retroactively. Most of these people will have no options for work. Lifetime alimony wasn't awarded lightly (at least here, idk specifically about Florida) and it doesn't make sense since women equality in the workplace. That does not nessasarily apply to Boomers and potentially Gen X, their dominos set in motion 40+ years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 11:07 PM
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I don't think men are as restricted in 'most valued' area. Men can be highly valued for their contributions and drive, for their looks, for their wealth and/or for their status. The difference being the bar is higher in each to bottom out on 'value'.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 05:57 PM
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It goes further than dating, it's branches into anthropology psychology, humans nature, science and culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 07:07 PM
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This is purple.pill.debate sub, not dating advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 06:52 PM
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Yeah I'm being a bit pedantic because unchallenged the % creeps up.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 06:24 PM
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Feelings. Some of what contributes to that is neither rational or measurable for all our squarking. Same the other way around too. It's unusual you find a woman that is trying to but can't get commitment from any guy. Here we'll assume values and measurable etc etc, but we never really account for the irrational because we can't.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 04:37 PM
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Considering women initiate ~80% of divorces, yes. I'm pretty sure that's nearly 70% in the USA and 62% in the UK. Nevertheless, those stats do not track benefit provided. It could equally be so because a greater % of women do not stop providing benefit in some way valued by the spouse.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 02:23 PM
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They're two separate cases sorry. In a hypothetical case where a woman had sex with him or provided another benefit in the past, he will continue the relationship if he is no longer receiving any benefit because he is weighing those past benefits. Briffault's law is It is the female, not the male, determines all the conditions of the animal family He goes on to back this up with females will not associate(partner with) males they can derive no benefit from. Also if they are partnered and the ben…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 11:22 AM
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Briffault's law, corollary one: "Past benefit provided by the male does not provide for continued or future association." Do you think men by large will associate (have relationships with) with women who have nothing to offer them (no possibility of sex, no nothing) , and will consider past benefit for future association? I think Briffault was a bit short sighted, or rather incomplete. Women absolutely have the capability of assessing the best use of their time and resources now, but so do men. …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 10:52 AM
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Just look at those more relatable maybe like YouTube stars... Who are dating other YouTube stars...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 03:57 PM
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Your missing the point, those 10 are the only ones who matter. The other 990 are not suitable for the role, not do they want it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 03:47 PM
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A good example is when one partner wants to move house and the other one wants to stay put (both are living in the same house). Both have good reasons for their stand. There is no 'deciding things together' in this case. One partner WILL get their way and the other one won't. If you didn't want to move but were made to, would you not feel resentment? If it's important enough to both, so firmly that there is no deciding together or compromise to be reached, then one forcing the issue is the begin…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 06:41 PM
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I'm not sure how that follows with divorce, divorce rates or that age determines wage? Among the X and boomer groups about 7% of marriages have a age gap >= 10 years (USA) with the man older, though a higher divorce rate withing it's grouping.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 04:47 PM
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Yeah on relying on men, especially those who broke from work for kids would skew that. The only caveat is marriage and divorce stats are more about Boomers and Gen X as the majority population having married and divorced at the moment) who might not have the same ideals for relationships millennials or Z have.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 03:52 PM
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We silence racists. Does silencing racists make racism right?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 04:30 PM
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Why would you not lash out at and shame liars? Edit; People lash out for many reasons, I personally believe 'because the opposition is telling the truth' is low down on anyone's reasoning. They may find it a threat to their way of life, but being a threat alone also doesn't make it the truth absolute.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 04:26 PM
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This relies on the assumption that BP is lying and RP is telling the truth. How does the story look if BP are telling the truth and RP are lying?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 04:24 PM
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I don't even know who Jay Z is. Beyonce is a household name even if I can't name many of her songs.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 04:15 PM
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It's not a semantics game when the OkCupid blog post in question was literally about how guys take bad profile pictures, the charts posted were being used to support that context.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 03:52 PM
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In the olden days, T.R.P. was about exposing the myth of female oppression perpetuated by feminists. It was about highlighting the unjust and unfair way society treats men I don't think that reared its head until 2016. Prior to that RP was focused on 'How to get sex' and that was about it, it was a branch of PUA that delved into the evo psych aspect. Over the years, something changed; nowadays, they only care about how to get laid and game/rig the system I think it just returned more to it's roo…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 02:23 PM
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I don't think men cheat with objectively low value women anymore than women cheat with objectively low value men. I think Red Pill rationalizes values in this area to fit it's narrative. Several years ago this became 'its because she feels he's higher value' rather than RP's objective measurements of what women value (status, frame, money) because branch swinging to a higher value guy was being challenged. Likewise, there is a stereotype of men branch swinging to younger women (which I have long…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 09:13 PM
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Okay to be clear, the concept of love as devotion to a partner, shared struggle etc and raising of offspring is older rather than just the word. The word used isn't important, the concept is. We have estimated couple of millions of years with monogamous tendancies and have pretty weak biological markers for both monogamy and polygamy (low sexual dimorphism between genders, low oxytocin , low sperm competition, concealed ovulation). All great apes except the orangutang have one or a few males wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 08:56 PM
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Love (the concept and writings of) predates Abrahamic religions or their arranged marriages. The advent of agriculture and having land, assets etc to share and pass down in this structure is relatively new itself. Edit; If men needs multiple women then during the evolution of the species something has made a mistake somewhere. We do not produce fewer male offspring - so either by design most men are suppose to have no women or all women have multiple male sexual partners too.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 07:00 PM
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Yeah. Guys already do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 03:32 PM
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Men are polyamorous, not hypergamous. Are these really exclusive? You can be poly and hypergamous while hypergamous is choosing the best of your options (or someone/s 'better than you' in whichever way wants to be defined). You just have multiple of the best partners you can. The opposition to polygamy is monogamy, not hypergamy. Many species females will have multiple of the best sexual offerings even with the cost of pregnancy. ​ Edit; It seems to me when engaging in Monogamy or Polygamy every…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 11:37 AM
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Age and gender doesn't affect prejudice levied against age gaps. Young men and women are as likely to judge as old men and women because of the same reason; perceived inequality. https://www.researchgate.net/publication/325808795_Perceived_inequity_predicts_prejudice_towards_age-gap_relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 09:46 AM
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What tinder study?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 06:58 AM
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They're RP terms. SMV - Sexual market value, or how much/many people want sex with you (and their value) . RMV - Relationship market value, or how much/many people want to have a relationship with you (and their value). They're separated because RPs separation of sexual and romantic attraction / offerings, but often conflated as one when noted as only SMV. They're not leagues per say (because I wouldn't call them normal distribution), but are useful for discussion of RP concepts.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 03:09 PM
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Whenever I come across a female subreddit I find that most of them would say “oh those men are predators” or the can’t handle a career woman. Was this a older women only subreddit, or what makes you think this view is exclusive to older women? All younger women will (hopefully) become older women, and not all will lack foresight. In cases where the man is a walking red flag it can be easier to aim for those without experience of identifying that red flag, and as time is a part of that younger ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 02:20 PM
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Nonetheless, mail-order marriages are less likely to end in divorce than marriages overall in the United States: divorce rates in mail-order marriages for which the courtship period lasted more than 4 months were between 35.8 and 41.3 percent when compared to the overall US divorce rate which is 48 percent (Statistics Solutions, Inc). I guess there's no data on US divorce rate when courtship period lasted < 4 months. I take issue with not using like for like data as a comparison on this point, a…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 09:52 AM
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Women have much more choice, at every bracket of men there are many more.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 10:40 PM
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If women are judged more harshly for their appearance, why do men swipe on 40% of women on Tinder while women only swipe on 7% of men? Men outnumber women on tinder, depending on location 4-1, 9-1 etc. That'll certainly be part of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 10:21 PM
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. I gave you a direction to look, if you choose not to look there then that's on you. Popular movies is a pretty wide area. I watched John Wick 4, Everything everywhere all at once, Dungeons and Dragons, Quantumania, Multiverse of Madness recently as far as I can remember and there's plenty of growth, and villains all around. You probably have some specific movies in mind when you say watch movies, unless you only watch.... Idk even an example of a movie that has no growth and is popular. John W…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 07:45 PM
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It's not really much different than cohabiting long term. I've been married now 6 months, we've been together for 8 years. The dynamic didn't change on marriage, those complains are relationship complaints, not marriage complaints specifically. Most houses are duel income now, you'd probably be in a house that you both own and most of the martial goods joint bought so when you break up you still have to go through the rigmarole of dividing assets, sending money (because I assume we're talking CS…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 11:09 AM
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Problem with the purge is getting everyone to press the off switch.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 04:03 PM
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Yes. Broke people understand the consequences of being broke.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 02:12 PM
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People already know it is unhealthy. People do things all the time that are unhealthy. People that can't stop mentioning less than ideal diets or hobbies at every opportunity are insufferable. Like some vegans. I know I'm killing an animal, I know it has a shitty life and shitty culling, I know I don't need to eat the steak. It's not a lack of education, it's my care levels Vs steak eating interest calculation I've already done.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 08:31 AM
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infidelity like that is considered a mortal sin for a reason Any infidelity is considered a mortal sin, including a married man lusting after another woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 09:17 AM
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On other people lying etc, it's something you can't control. They were making a point it was the low n person causing issues, not the high n. If that person deals with their issues no reason it can't.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 03:08 PM
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These are not exceptions. The rule isn't unhappiness, is higher than average compared to low n counterparts in a specific measurement (cheating) . Higher doesn't mean most.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 02:50 PM
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By the laws of PPD 'Men and women are different' is only applicable when convenient to the commenter.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 09:50 PM
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I don't contribute more time to make up for our wage gap - and even in the same line of work my husband is 16 years older than me, he's at the wave cap for our sector while I won't reach it for another 5 years or so. But I am specialising and might overtake him, not likely before he takes early retirement though! But I do have far cheaper taste than him, that gap is enough that while I pay proportionally for larger spends (50/50 on bills, food etc) I am the 'loser' financially based on my subjec…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 05:59 PM
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I understand, I don't actually think they're terrible people in general. But that doesn't make it easier to move forward for the person who has been betrayed.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 07:12 PM
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Even here on this board (while not recently as minds are being changed, and there's more awareness in the last decade) RP and such offered no sympathy to male victims of SA, and a couple went as far to defend it with men and women are different Edit; example 5years ago https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/81gd0r/interesting_data_about_disparities_in_sentencing/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button The second top comment has…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 11:23 PM
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I know that was tongue and cheek, but no one's watching without bias in the first place. That's how you get threads of confidently incorrect scenarios from a few lines where people have convinced themselves it fit into their binary bias rather than any other number of possibilities.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 11:16 PM
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No. I tried that once when I was young and he was very apologetic, it didn't matter because ime once that trust is broken it can never return to what it was before. The security is gone. Time didn't heal it, it just kept gnawing away, I became controlling and it wasn't worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 11:04 PM
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The market would be different; the problems faced would be different also, but I think they'd still be problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 11:44 AM
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It's interesting to conflate masculinity with paying for the first date and opening doors. And she's a hypocrite. Being generous it could be because American politics have some hardlines on issues that are not inherity political, aka Guns and Abortion. Natural conservatives may find themselves pushed left over them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 06:55 AM
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What is complaining? I would advise against them for people who are attracted to people closer to their own age looking for relationships because of my experiences. Its taking on a greater risk, not dissimilar to the argument made for taking on the risk of a promiscuous woman. My experience is such because I personally have always been attracted to men older than me, so been there and bought the t-shirt half a dozen times over. Many side eyes of judgement have been given, but never of jealousy. …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 10:48 PM
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As evidenced by jealousy and mate guarding regardless of gender fidelity is important to all of us. There are several evolutionary theories as to why this is, but it is. And again, regardless of sexual strategy options fidelity and monogamy is advantageous to both.
/r/RedPillWomen08/06/23 12:05 PM
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Is BHM (Big handsome men)btw. There's a gone wild sub on Reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 04:41 PM
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male animals tend to be promiscuous, Unless they're only banging other males , females must also be promiscuous (or really polygamous) to a degree. Or most males must not be banging at all (Gorillas) leaving them functionally forever virgins. For the most part its a species that are or are not polygamous (usually on a scale, monogamous pairing species can and do cheat and such too), for single sex (like lions) there's things like heavily skewed birth ratio in sex to accommodate that group compos…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 11:54 PM
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What sort of capitalism do you agree with? Based on the issues you have with them (and for much I agree) I see that as good old Capitalism (without any classifiers needed). The difference between good old Capitalism and where we are now is the inevitable corruption (imo, to any economic model that's around long enough) via greed, as the wealthy abuse systems meant for start ups, smaller businesses etc. As sectors get too big to be allowed to fail (2008 Banks etc) unregulated they can take risks,…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 11:20 PM
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Yeah I've heard all the stories and women have the same, but based on my reading from men it was special, sporadic and not the norm, certainly not needed.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 02:54 PM
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Most pubescent boys(and girls) didn't have the means to do /see those things, any even those that could they could not regularly. Renting videos was expensive and age restricted.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 02:46 PM
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Do you think men didn't masturbate before the 2000's, or 1950's or whichever media revolution. Requiring porn to masturbate suggests an issue somewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 02:42 PM
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I was pretty dumb when I was young. Young men are pretty dumb too, that's why there's so many in prison and winning Darwin awards. I don't think that's an uncommon sentiment for folks outside their 20's to look back and think some things were dumb. If you never acknowledge it you can't learn from it. You mature through experience which is a product partially of time, and all of a sudden you are boring and middle age.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 10:28 PM
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But going around Reddit and unprecedentedly making remarks about how young women are irrational, stupid and unable to think for themselves is a very different matter. People don't make comments in a vacuum. Most discourse comes from things like relationship sub, or here. Or tiktok but A. That's young women and B. It's tiktok
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 10:15 PM
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If we're looking at tribal living then your providing more communally usually.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 09:47 PM
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Because they're measurements of value added by men historically or traditionally. If you instead measure on value added by women then men are hypergamous. Traditional roles were as because of environmental factors which in turn fuel physiological selection and evolution. Gendered roles were beneficial. Men do however care far more about those things than they used to, as women care more about age and looks etc - as all hypergamy is declining as environmental constraints disappear. Less need for …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 03:04 PM
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Imv a lot of women have sex when they feel horny, usually when drunk. Shes not necessarily in the mood because of the man she sleeps with. The man is the right tool at the right time in many cases. Edit ; Or maybe it's just as simple as sex drive is a spectrum and many women sit on the more male end, certainly plenty of men sit on the female end. If 20% of women are promiscuous as such that's a pretty normal overlap.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 06:15 PM
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I didn't prove or disprove anything and neither did you, you just made a baseless claim. So, I take it that you think they are indeed broad and diverse ? Really ? You think there are as many women into short guys as they are into tall ones ? Same when it comes to being fat or fit ? Because men are into all of those physical traits and more Rating Attractiveness: Consensus Among Men, Not Women, Study Finds https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/06/090626153511.htm Now its not a baseless claim…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 01:50 PM
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They refuse to acknowledge this because it trivializes their perceived value & power over men by diminishing it to a very basic evolutionary certainty. Why would it trivialize their power over men? Is the power over men trivial because its rooted in biology, are men's complaints about it trivial? Should men's sports be looked down on compared to women's because its biologically easier? Down with the Olympics because they're all just freak biological occurrences? There's nothing trivial about it.…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 04:01 PM
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Well my ex would seem to have the emotional range of a doorknob to others, came across as very stoic. I'd seen him cry more times than any other man combined. His stoicism came from an inability to deal with emotions to the point they would bubble and explode out. It did effect our relationship - but mostly because we couldn't communicate because of it and after many years he never got to a place to seek help (and as far as I know never has). So my only consideration on that is don't judge those…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 08:36 AM
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Imo what you do, provide and look like are all as much who you are as each other. Everyone is valued for what they provide, and men can get really nasty to women who don't provide them with what they want; women who are not pretty enough to be in their presence, TV show or video game. If I died tomorrow my form would be there, but I would not.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 08:05 AM
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Its not really about culture I don't think. Humans have a tendency for negativity bias and stepping outside the overtone window producing emotionally charged content is used as a tool to drive engagement. Controversy drives views that is the current measurement used to sell media, its more comments in anger, more shares and therefore more revenue. Most of such creators are running on infamy. So with this engagement many more people are reached. Being rational and well speaking is more academic, …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 12:19 PM
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Maybe they'll stop chasing Stacy and notice the rest of women in existence. I notice on your examples it's never the nerdier girls no one is giving a second glance to. In most Disney movies there is assortive mating, humans are pretty good at it. It's not the stories fault guys think they're princes instead of background characters or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 10:23 PM
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This line of discussion is hampered by being framed malecentric. Women dating taller men is about as expected as men dating women that have bigger tits than him - it's a sexually dimorphic trait in humans. Men date up in areas men value like age, but it's not on the radar because of the framing. What type of average being measured tends to swap and change to suite, like relative wage or looks for the gender Vs absolute. It's also a disservice to femininity as feminine traits are not treated as o…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 03:13 PM
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but then only going for guys superior to them in one way or another No one is dating someone who is worse than them in every measurable way; that sentence is a whole lot of nothingness.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 12:59 PM
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Yeah. Rape is about power, I believe most fantasies women have are ironically about them having sexual power over men in a feminine way. Fantasies are not non con at the core, they also feature who and what the fantasee wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 09:41 PM
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Added to all of the other replies, toxic men put themselves out there a tonne more than non toxic men (because no shame), shrug off rejection easily, and are single more often because toxic isnt predictive of long term relationships for obvious reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 09:16 PM
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In both cases everything we know currently collapses. The theory of 'well guys will keep everything running' yeah when things go slightly sideways look at the looters and rioters - a grander scale I don't think they'd all just shrug and keep working. Who goes to work during an apocalypse level event? After that the gender would build in their own image I guess. Assuming asexual reproduction. If not then humans die out.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 10:40 PM
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Do you now have a meaningful connection in romance? You mentioned as BP never being able to obtain this, but you don't follow this with PUA having obtained that either. I've never found a asshole attractive, so the whole thing is pretty foreign to me, I certainly don't believe its required.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 02:47 PM
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What you wrote talks about both men and women that date both younger and / or older. Yeah, if you open and read the study it addresses different angles, like; The first column of Table 4 reports marginal effects for the attractive appearance rating.10 Individuals married to differently-aged spouses are less attractive, with the possible exception of men married to older women. The estimates are only statistically significant for those in older man- younger woman marriages. There are things to cr…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 08:48 AM
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https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6879192/ Empirical results show lower cognitive ability, lower educational attainment, lower occupational wages, lower earnings, and less attractive appearance among those married to a differently-aged spouse. Men married to differently-aged spouses have lower earnings, and the effects are again surprisingly symmetric between men married to younger and older women. Women married to older men earn more than women married to similarly-aged husbands, des…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 07:09 AM
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that's what drives guys crazy lol beautiful woman, ya raw sexual attraction. handsome guy, ???. guys like to think objectively. Guys are not thinking objectively, they're still acting on emotion and instinct - the results form into a easy measurable outcome, but they have their variance too. Just the conditions for sexual attraction between genders are different (On average, not dismissing there is overlap at each end for an individual). Look on the bright side (and this is raw TRP here) ; The s…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 11:39 PM
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I do believe there is more in group bias, but I also think the example is weird. In the manosphere there are some celebs who are pedestalized for 'sticking it to the women' by the same base they are at best taking advantage of, at worst scamming. People who feel like warring with the other gender for any reason tend to flock to those sorts of things. Greater in group bias is better differentiated by the amount of women willing to lift other women up, and supporting them vs the amount of men supp…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 11:28 PM
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women even praise downright fat stranger women On a thread talking about violence and bullying, praising downright fat women is a interesting focus. Weight & looks in general doesn't make someone a bad person.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 11:23 PM
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Did you come here because you were already here before you got married? I was here before I even met my husband. I like debating things really. Its spicier than debating rules as written to 40k anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 11:17 PM
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pretend to support liberal left wing ideas because they hope to get laid, and don’t have to be responsible for any consequences. Why would they have to pretend? Do we think men do not like sex while avoiding becoming responsible via shotgun weddings or child support? The baseline assumption being made is liberalism doesn't offer any benefit to men, I don't think that's true.
/r/RedPillWomen18/05/23 11:38 AM
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Don't think I have, even though I'm probably closer to the not mattering end of the scale than others would be? Least in the realms of ability to find someone who loves and is attracted to you. I hate that there are men that are hyper focussed on the chad lookism stuff. Insecurity reaching so many normal looking guys too, yeah they're not models but most us women are not either and I could never have lead the life of those hot people. Creates a situation where they can't accept the interest of a…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 11:21 PM
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Okay name me some women from ancient times that have become famous millionaires on the basis of them selling their bodies. I assume Ancient is hyperbolic as few holding great wealth wasn't prevalent for most of human history at all. Mistresses to rich men. Kings, lords, generals. Mistresses of note could be gifted castles and such. Edit; to name one specifically Emma Lady Hamilton, mistress of Lord Nelson - she was married with her husband aware. The past wasn't half as puritan as its made out t…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 09:44 PM
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I'm glad I never have donated or given a single cent to any girl on the internet. OF or camming is just a gig economy version of porn; if you've ever watched any porn you contributed to the market that pays them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 09:36 PM
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Because it's confrontational, I'd only expect a particular type of person to ask something like that; and they're not doing so in good faith. People are dating to form interpersonal relationships that are based more in emotion than facts and logic. What someone brings and the value of that is wholey perceived in the receiving party though getting to know them by interacting. Just ask someone about their hobbies and life and stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 12:27 PM
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you're the one "selecting" when you go through the job application and get rejected. You choose which Jobs to apply to.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 12:11 PM
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Common sense wasn't meant as an attack, 'Being yourself' was never sold as a sole all encompassing fix all situation people are making it out to have been. Its high level generalized advise that came from people trying to mask too much and being unhappy in their resulting relationships. I understand the difficulty in socializing, though its not severe (maybe? idk) . I have a relatively small close group and anxiety beyond it, over analysing any social interaction (usually when walking my dog) an…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 11:22 PM
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No. Its a self selecting negative sample of the experience of some women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 09:18 PM
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. Have you ever thought about looking at men who are less 'conventionally attractive' or down on their luck, so to speak? I got into the habit of continually dating further down and the bottom of that pit was the worst. The least attractive partner cheated on me the entirety of our relationship, because his two busses came at once. I mean he was alone before and has been since, but I'm weary of assuming less attractive is automatically nicer. After lifting my self esteem from the gutter I jumped…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 09:12 PM
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Being a better version would be having the confidence of going up to her and trying starting a conversation but if you say am shy therefore not gonna do it, it doesn't really help you or your odds There's a certain amount of assumed common sense with the notation of being yourself. Like if you never leave the house or interact with women they're not going to fall from the sky or if your a 4 you're going to be looking for a 4. Common sense might not be all that common. Being yourself didn't used …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 09:06 PM
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It hasn't fixed loneliness nor horniness.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 08:29 PM
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The lie is what boys are told about relationships. The disney shit. Both boys and girls watch the same Disney movies here.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 12:50 PM
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I started dating someone and I've realized how much emotional labor I have to do even though he's great. This will always be an issue for as long as I date men. Regarding "that's not what emotional labor is" - what isn't? I didn't describe the emotional labor I'm doing in this post. It could be anything; I took the post to just means dating is work she doesnt feel is rewarding. She tried being single, and it turns out she's happier like that. I figured with her tone it was just basic things, lik…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 07:56 PM
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My dad is great. My parents certainly show their love for each other and he's always been there for us. I relate to him more than my mother, and sometimes we still share side glances when something amuses us. The only thing it affected is I thought men were generally like him. My early experience dating shattered that illusion. Rather too cynical, I still know lots of great men and my husband, but when I was younger I was very naive and that lead to being a doormat and having my heart broken.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 10:00 PM
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Reason is he's not worth anything better so he can't deploy his hypergamy? I think a lot of the times men are with forever girlfriends against her wishes (because not all women want to get married either) are sometimes because they're carrying mental issues, like depression or sevear insecurity. Sometimes because they just don't like her enough. But in all cases it's because he can't get better right now and is passing the time. Everyone knows that guy or girl who was in a long LTR and then left…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 09:48 PM
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Back in which day, what culture and which social class? History is pretty diverse there.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 07:57 PM
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Those things are hard to ascertain from a swipe app based on photos.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 04:48 PM
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No, rejecting anyone is awkward and more likely to feel for them than enjoy it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 02:03 PM
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Depending on the severity this can be statutory rape in the UK. Capacity on consenting to sex would be on a case by case basis, it's not a easily defined line but mental capacity is a consideration listed in UK law on consent. The same consideration is used when a person is a danger to themselves and committed etc, we certainly at a societal level do no treat all adults equally. Likewise, here we have different age of consent for those in positions of trust (I.e. teachers) as the power imbalance…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 10:15 PM
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If it mattered enough to enough men women want and believe are attainable for them then women would not be promiscuous, because it's men's actual choices on reality that drives these sort of actions and reservations. The fact is it doesn't matter to enough of the men that women believe are attainable for them in the first place. I'm mid 30's and my single friends are all the low n count. Promiscuous women are now married, I've theorised before because such women are usually pretty extrovert and …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 09:59 PM
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Innate behaviour is tenuously linked to how we behave day to day; we experience hunger to do the unnatural and buy a sandwich, fire up the oven or get takeaway. I believe drives are innate in some circumstances, but the vast vast majority of all out behaviour is not, including most of the time directing against innate drives to punch that annoying person in the face, get up for work, or just most emotional control. Moreover men and women are far more alike than not, and the sex hormones which ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 05:09 PM
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It's rumoured to be Tiffany Chen who is 45 or 46.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 04:29 PM
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Yeah statistically she probably is above average…… ……but is a non fat girl with a blandish face above average…..search your heart ​ How many women of dating age aren’t dating a guy with at least one of those qualities? ​ Exactly, he’s “only” so and so above average Man, if she's slightly less than average weight alone that puts her above average in your man based calculations. At the least keep below/average/above in your own views consistent among men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 11:51 AM
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30% of young men having no sex in the last year compared to only 18% of women? These are stats from a different, older study where the up to date version of that study has men and women no sex in the last year at the same rate.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 03:48 PM
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Short men are very aware they're short. The male social hierarchy absolutely makes sure they know being short isn't ideal, before any dating considerations are raised. I think it's partly insecurity - being hyper aware of your height is likely to end with dismorphia, partly bias on the observers end. By that I mean a taller guy acting out often will never be considered Napoleon complex where a shorter guy acts out once will be explained by that, though it's just incorrect circular reasoning. I t…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 09:19 AM
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Your point has no effect on the question I posed. The concept of blue pill/red pill comes from the movie. It matters not whether it’s fictional or not lol The concept of the pills in the matrix are not really useful in describing what Red Pill is, other than its namesake. Red pill is proposal of sexual strategies to specific outcomes that are built from evolutionary psychology, in some cases the proposed sexual strategies are the foundation of building the evolutionary psychology. The problem I …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 12:28 PM
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We're far off from that, but I'm sure we'll get to it. Idk if its that far off. There are a lot of companies research and development in this area, with the competition, ethics, reliability and implications of human trials information is closely guarded. I expect premature deliveries to be given the green light to use the technology within the next few years, or certainly within a decade. It's mostly legislation from there.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 10:00 AM
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I think people can feel love for someone and cheat on them, men and women. Its just a mixture of narcissism and some hamstering to themselves why its OK to hurt someone they profess to love.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 08:28 AM
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Have you even seen The Matrix? Its a fictional movie not a documentary.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 10:58 PM
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RP's standards Low N is not really a RP standard. It was introduced by the Blackpill and Incels. Standard LTR advice was to spin plates, and when you find a plate worthy you can LTR if that's what you want (but RP didn't really give much LTR advice as it wasnt the primary discussion). RP was actually more grounded in the situation, vet the women not a statistic. RP considered N count questions irrelevant because AWALT.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 08:20 AM
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What you do if you were a 21 year old female? Played video games, hung out with my friends, worked a slightly better than minimum wage job. All these things take a lot of time, outgoing personality types, dedication to the craft, existing family money to an extent, luck etc. If you were / are not a high flyer man at 21 you wouldn't have been a high flyer woman either.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 01:07 PM
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wouldn’t we expect men to have an easier time on dating apps then? Depending on how skewed the M/F ratio is maybe. In situations there are 4 men to 1 woman even choosing on their level then not so much. AFAIK bumble is currently the best with 3 men per 1 woman (and perhaps tinder is one of the worst at 9:1 in some areas). The numbers are against guys on dating apps out of the gate, before any preferences are added.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 08:05 PM
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I never had a casual sex partner the only guy I considered as STR didn't want only a STR. I can say with 100% certainty STR partners are have been 'second class' for me
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 10:14 PM
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There's enough evidence for something like what TRP says; where I think they go wrong is women don't generally want to LTR a STR prospect (or it wouldn't be called STR selection....), and that a LTR prospect isnt generally attractive sexually as the STR. Maybe one of the worst points of TRP is trying to categorising strictly based on outcome rather than traits. There's lots of interacting traits and on some versions of TRP this might be called the alpha bucks (or the male unicorn). But I haven't…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 08:55 PM
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What do you think a business is? Where you sell goods or services and make money, where you have people who work under you and people working under them..... How would he make money if he's not part of that business exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 04:07 PM
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Idk how a podcast where he explains a business hierarchy, where he is at the top, means he could not have done anything illegal. Nor is it original; Epstein didn't pick women off the street, he used women to bring in girls. Epstien also gave the girls money to redirect to prostitution rather than trafficking, which worked initially as they were his first set of charges.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 03:26 PM
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Casual sex being described as sharing a man is about as accurate as saying those men are cucks for sharing women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/23 08:48 AM
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I hardly see anyone under 30 at all tbf, everyone's shopping online.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 09:34 PM
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We split around 45/55 for bills, some stuff 50/50, some other things 40/60ish. It's all ish. I don't mind much.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 08:26 PM
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Knowing what any individuals definition is is good, because everyone has their own definition. And otherwise just ... read Wikipedia.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 05:06 PM
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Most Handsome Man of the Year Ironically my first hit on google list David Beckham, who is married to a woman two years older than him.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 08:47 AM
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It hurts more for men to be rejected by beautiful women if they are also nasty on that I'm not sure that's true, there's a good case for men expecting to be rejected by someone they perceive out of their league but shooting their shot anyway and offended when someone within, or even below rejects them because that's a lot more ego shattering.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 06:47 PM
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I'd ask to explain but I expect I'd get more gibberish.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 04:41 PM
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Does JK have any relationship advise other than panik at the penis? The only time I've seen her mention relationships its always about her abusive ex.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 02:29 PM
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wat
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 02:20 PM
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A relationship entails a man having to compensate for his lack of physical attractiveness with other forms of payment for sex. In other words: Relationship are for losers Offering something of different value to mate is still proving value for mating. The losers are those who can not gain any sex relationship or otherwise because they have nothing of value to offer in this proposed hierarchy system.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 11:36 AM
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I don't know much about professional fighting, but I suspect it's true across the board to say they supplement things like testosterone and other things, which doesn't give us a good idea of natural state. What we do know is testosterone peaks around 20-25 and declines from there. As the sex hormone that's probably a big deal. Modern day medicine, techniques and abundance of calories allow both men and women to perform well passed natural or biological limitations. This is a good thing, but all …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 10:26 AM
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have you seen Rachel McAdams' recent magazine photoshoot with armpit hair? Media you see is based on media you choose to consume, and will seem well over represented because of it. My google news rn shows me some GenZ staffing stuff, Cycling news, Bam Margera, funny dog videos, CNN news anchor was fired, Jeremy Clarkson, something about pugs.... and so on. Edit; My personal favorite from this scroll is 'Young Swan left with permanent hole in tongue as RSPCA sees surge in fishing tackle incidents…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 02:06 PM
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Why does the reason matter so much? It makes them completely different things. Reasoning or intent is taken into consideration for pretty much everything, its the difference between murder and manslaughter but neither brings someone back to life.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 02:02 PM
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Could this be the reason for mate guarding? Sexual Jealousy is the reason for mate guarding... yes. Present in both men and women. RP's dread game is basically deliberate triggering of the mate guarding response for example. ​ Also with the need to address female infidelity in the modern era Is there? ​ is it even wise for men to engage in relationships with modern women in the western world, based on this finding? What finding exactly? Nothing has changed, this is a mechanism being studied that…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 11:10 AM
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I'm sure thyroid stiff play their part. I luckily am blessed (or cursed) with those genetics of people who don't gain weight easily, the whole family are sticks. Inherited stomach acid stuff isn't fun though. The point was around the other debater suggesting the cause of Eastern countries weight was shaming, while I provided a alternative root cause in the ability, ease and freedom to consume - those things that changed dramatically around the time weight gain started.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 10:43 PM
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Eastern cultures have rapid rising obesity rates and such. Lifestyle and opportunity plays a massive part in these things. EDIT; For shaming to have any effect the individual must respect the opinion of who is dishing it out, it cant be overt & change must be worth their while. While food is cheap, tasty and enjoyable its 'worth' is very high.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 07:58 PM
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why do the men have to live in reality whilst women can’t Because other women will make it worth her going out while men... I guess don't have good friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 07:06 PM
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Did I proceed to cry and get all sensitive like most women do when they're told they need to lose some weight (especially when it becomes truly problematic for their health)? No. Over the next year, I proceeded to run and sprint on a daily basis and play more pick up basketball. I think this comment falls at the final furlong, taking a jab at women really reduced your point to 'it can work sometimes for men but not women because they just cry'. Leaving us at again, there is little point to shami…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 05:39 PM
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My comment was way more aggressively phrased than I meant but there are not fewer fat lazy or deadbeat men for shaming; so either shaming doesn't work or men are not really shamed for those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 04:39 PM
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Because if we make people feel good about their bad choices, it enables them. ... We have zero issues shaming men for being broke, fat, lazy, deadbeat dads, etc Has any of this made less deadbeats, fat or lazy men? Is this shaming working? Should we shame them harder and constantly remind them their worthless to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 04:31 PM
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If she's got it doesn't matter, HVM will date and marry them (within the definition of their HVM).
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 08:13 AM
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good chances are that your (single) male acquaintances/friends will eventually ask you out or express a desire for something more ...From the group of men who got to know me first? Women give such advice because their partners in many cases are men who got to know them first. What we can't do is give out guarantees.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 11:59 PM
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A post hoc description can be debunked by being wrong. Not sure it applies here but rationale for descriptors can be incorrect.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 12:10 PM
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This is pretty standard counterterrorism monitoring, meant to be preventative. IDK how good the USA is at this. It has been reported in the UK terrorism monitoring has stopped X attacks in late stage planning (Not in this area specifically ofc). In case anyone forgot, what's discussed here / Red Pill is on the extremist end of the scale.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 09:33 PM
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You’re not gonna have the lifetime rates of mellenials for atleast a couple decades. No, and a compounding problem is divorce rates include people married 2,3,4 etc times previously. ​ How many boomers were getting when they were in their 30-40s compared to mellenials now in there 30-40s. Fewer - other than the aforementioned divorce / remarrying. Boomers are still divorcing, making up 25% of divorces today. But they've had historical impact on divorce rates too. And the divorce rate is coming d…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 03:07 PM
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Which is lowered by our generations average. Our generations average what? I'm a millennial, currently boomers hold the highest divorce rate on the quickest of looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 02:51 PM
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Divorce rate for our parents generation is half of today. Current age is probably important for establishing parental generation but current divorce stats include my parents generation as they're in their 50's.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 02:45 PM
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Prince Charming doesn't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 10:02 AM
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Meanwhile half our parents where married at that age And half again ended up divorced, with early age of first marriage being a predictor for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 10:00 AM
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In the wrong for what? She's obviously attracted to him with that swipe ratio. She's assessing her behaviour and expectations, what she's providing to others.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 09:51 PM
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both for inflated money that don't really reflect the actual value of most men and women. Sorry I don't really understand this, isn't their actual value determined by the reality of the marketplace as it exists today?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 09:43 PM
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1% income earners paid 38.77% of total income taxes paid that year, How many of those exist without consumers?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 09:04 PM
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I think abandonment is a strong word, males still work for the group, even in groups where most males don't reproduce. Regardless, I think in humans its considered to existed prior to agricultural age. Highly dependent offspring and concealed estrus spurs the motivation for sexual selection of invested males which in turn is passed down in surviving offspring.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 09:29 AM
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How do you imagine men abandoned women prior to the age of agriculture? Just walked right out of his group/ tribe? How do you imagine human children survived with a single female when we have long gestation and long dependant period upon birth? I don't think abandonment is common in any of our close relatives in the animal kingdom.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 07:34 AM
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Obviously I'm not talking about asexuals.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 02:36 PM
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and then they'll act the same way. Plenty of people do not get any sex or the level of sex they desire but sex doesnt occupy as much headspace to the point they talk about it all the time, or much really. People can choose to spend their time and thrust themselves into other activities, projects or hobbies & satisfy physical need with masturbation when required, or to keep feeding it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 01:14 PM
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I thought conspiracy theorists were uncool? Dude is currently restricted in movement under investigation. No one should be surprised that a guy who practically walked around shouting about how he's getting away with criminal actions draw attention of law enforcement. Conspiracy is plot, conspiring, secrecy; none of that is applicable here. Conspiracy would be rationalizing why its NOT as it seems.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 06:47 PM
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Do you have sex on the 1st date or do you make men wait? These two things are non-sequential. 'Making men wait' ascribes intent and the 'or' is used as exclusive making it impossible to answer. I have sex when I'm ready to have sex. It's never been on the first date and I've never made a man wait.
/r/RedPillWomen14/04/23 10:37 AM
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That particular study also deals in pretty low partner counts across the board, and is around 30 or so women in each group. Women went up something like mean 3.5 to 4.5 between anon and poly groups which is important for understanding context of data, but with a small pool that number can be influenced by 1 or 2 people lying or such. ​ People do lie, but there are better explanations for the OP's study on arousal.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 07:52 PM
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Women can be mentally aroused by pretty much any sexual context; we're probably thinking of the same study where it's also hypothesised women's arousal has more complexity than what was being measured as it didn't match reports of hetro or homosexuality, while men's arousal was quite straightforward and expected. If we take that study as women lie then the conclusion is women are sexually aroused by anyone, any level of attractiveness, man or woman (and those that are neither too...).
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 07:19 PM
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Sure, there are more gold diggers than usual in this day and age, In comparison to what age?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 12:17 PM
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. I assume if she leaves and find his replacement, the step-dad she actually wants to be with. That guy is the definition of BB too though.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 07:46 PM
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Not really a choice, as you put women are at the mercy of men and men's crimes, always.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 06:48 PM
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I was agreeing with your comment, but I guess it depends if you would rather die or maybe die, maybe be raped by men? Either way, value in this sector is only utility, regardless of sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 05:11 PM
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Yeah, women have it pretty bad
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 05:07 PM
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Most endlessly complain about how difficult dating is for men here, setting higher standards doesn't help. The average age gap is around 2 years, if a man wants lots of kids they he should plan accordingly and not leave it too late, just as women. The practicality is most people pair up are within a few years in age. Women's hard limit of fertility is also a soft limit on men's (though granted there is lots of technology now to assist and in the near future it might be redundant), no one should …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 08:48 AM
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Everyone is expendable. Men die in war, women are used as tools should they be conquered and die in childbirth. In some times and places they took men or boys as tools too, but if there was not a power differential it was better to dispose of them being men are a threat where women are not. In 2023 we can be pretty happy in much fewer of all those things exist for us all.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 08:39 AM
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This is really for those who are all like 'We talk about generalizations because that's most useful' then generalize when talking about a minority as such because it suits them. There are women who are attracted to older guys primarily yeah. That goes for everything else we generalize about on PPD too though.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 04:18 PM
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I'm late to the thread, but theres evidence to suggest its disliked because of percieved inequality; https://www.researchgate.net/publication/325808795_Perceived_inequity_predicts_prejudice_towards_age-gap_relationships Also of interest age and gender did not make a difference on how they were viewed. we provided evidence that people perceive greater inequity, and express greater prejudice towards, age-gap couples than age-matched couples. Furthermore, perceived inequity positively predicted pre…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 10:02 AM
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'With the exception of rape' means the op is excluding that group from their following sentences.....
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 09:49 AM
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So I would expect something like a surge of gym memberships and men thrusting themselves into further education, dedicating themselves to a craft for self improvement, to become a top dog. Instead Tate has influence is seen by boys being edgy in classrooms for comedic value, and ignoring the other stuff because that's effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 05:46 PM
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Not to this degree The degree of frowny faces on the internet is pretty mild in form. Mass protest, rioting and such is more on form. We see those every day somewhere about something.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 03:50 PM
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You can love and support your kids or not. Being in denial about who they are and how they love isn't going to change reality of the situation. If promoting heterosexuality helped there wouldn't be so many stories of people cutting off their parents. Preaching legacy is perhaps better, no reason homosexual or trans individuals can't have kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 11:37 AM
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Teenagers are angsty and naturally push against stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 08:58 AM
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For there to be a replication crisis, ability and effort to replicate must be of a concern in the first place, which it has not always been so (and some of that was rooted in practicality of getting unbiased samples before mass media). Most of these issues are based in sampling ; which again accounting for sampling bias is something that's a relatively new concept. Looking back a number of decades we have work like wolves studied in captivity (a biased sample) that lead to decades of common inco…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 04:08 PM
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Unfortunately academia is also ideologically driven and censorship in all aspects of science in the west is rife,if it goes against a particular social agenda. In general science has never been better, especially in social sciences. I'm a Data Scientist (not in social sciences) and the strides in standards taken in the last 20-30 years is like the difference between a horse drawn cart and a car. 90% of all data in existence was collected in the last 2 years. There can still be bias and political…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 12:09 AM
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The link is dead. Naturally, she has received criticism from other psychologists. ; https://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/06/science/seeing-narcissists-everywhere.html ​ But as her media profile has risen, so has the volume of criticism from her colleagues. “I think she is vastly misinterpreting or over-interpreting the data, and I think it’s destructive,” said Jeffrey Jensen Arnett, a research professor in psychology at Clark University. “She is inviting ridicule for a group of people about which the…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 11:31 PM
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Not decades. I mean, we basically solved the largest problem - conversational AI - over the last 2 years. It's 90% there. Its not near indistinguishable from humans.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 04:51 PM
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Yeah I don't want to diminish the pain of loneliness in those thoughts. I'm sorry for your situation and hope the best for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 11:58 PM
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Some people get to the point they don't want to be hurt anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 11:45 PM
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I don't recall seeing anyone much over 30 back when, but they probably exist. Working men's clubs and pubs here are more popular with middle aged + folk.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 11:42 PM
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the last time you saw a 50 year old woman, in the club, surrounded by Chads? How many older folk clubs do you go to?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 11:33 PM
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Femininity can manifest in men as positively as it can in women. This reads like a joke slamming femininity as inherently negative to RPW as the punchline.
/r/RedPillWomen01/04/23 12:02 AM
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I'm not fashiony. The clothes I wear look good on me and go together, but they're not 'in' or anything. Likewise I wear little to no makeup. I'm clean and hygienic. Thing is I don't really care. I could've done the work to shoot higher, but I don't want those men anyway. I have my husband, who wants me for me, and I'm good with that. I want to ramble and camp and BBQ out, other things are not me.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 12:16 AM
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log-likelihood and corresponding p values indicate a very poor representation of this survey-driven data in both of their presented models Idk kind of nit-picky. Log Likelyhood doesn't mean much in itself. More variables and more data are always going to lower the log likelyhood value, its really to measure against others. Likewise, the p-values for the variables under discussion are statistically significant. Not all of them will be, that's a feature not a bug in logistic regression. It could b…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 11:47 PM
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Do I need to cite multiple posts of women feeling ashamed and questioning their male s/o of what their plans are because making 30, 40k isn't enough to satisfy their hypergamy driven ego Go for it, I mean it doesn't mean anything but since you offered? Cheating is different than divorce, many would rather just be divorced than cheated on. There's lots of posts about anything and everything on the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 11:19 PM
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you mean changing something to make yourself more desirable to the opposite sex. How that could possibly be a bad thing, especially for men who struggle to get into relationships in the first place, When it doesn't work you get Blackpill and school shooters. You get rising rhetoric about how women are more picky now because they did what they were suppose to and still don't get women. Red pill also gives men impressions they will see results, the ability to have a harem of women, and enough do n…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 07:49 AM
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There's far more... negativity for Islam here in the UK, I presume this is an American thing .
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 07:41 AM
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Sex is as much of a skill as anything else - but it wouldn't require many men, multiple times with one is as good. I was pretty starfishy until 22-23ish when I became more in tune with my sexuality, partially from experiencing and exploring sex. Sex after which was certainly better for me, and probably for guys because guys like enthusiasm, and there's a certain confidence that comes with knowing you know how to have a good time. I've never fractured a penis. Once one bled, and you know, importa…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 10:34 PM
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Yes, that doesn't mean they're the same thing. While porn has existed in some form for a long time for most of history men have masturbated fine without any access. Porn isn't required to masturbate.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 10:18 PM
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The urge to mastubate is a separate entity to porn. The urge to use porn imo is alike to pizza or other lazy fast food the human body likes.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 09:14 PM
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Swiping on everyone is low cost and time investment. Trying to figure out which men are interested, which just swiped without looking, ones who are rude, ones who are interested in LTRs, ones who even checked your profile and have similar likes - its lot of time and effort having to be put forth into vetting to come up with nothing most of the time, hell maybe you set up a date and it goes no where because actually he was lying about XYZ and you were suppose to mind read this... Its just a massi…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 02:57 PM
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I consider it improbable men are more R in a biological determinism way. Low effort babies with no male care in provisioning, protections or otherwise are unlikely to have survived going back pre agriculture; however they would do today with our societies as they are. I don't believe there is one way (restrictive) we are made to operate biologically though so there's that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 09:55 PM
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What's the difference in results cross culturally to address how culture affects drive? I think others have addressed R and K issues. All humans are considered to be K's, and on quite the extreme end of the scale too. We have difficult pregnancies, long gestation, uniquely dependent offspring for an extraordinary length of time etc. I kinda feel you left out a bunch of science there because it doesn't agree with your conclusion to the theory...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 09:21 PM
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Not centered around the mean doesn't mean outlier. An outlier is an exceptional- case, often disregarded from statistics entirely. It's more like 20th percentile arguing, or like men who are 5'7and under.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 09:13 PM
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because those mating strategies only benefit women. They don't only benefit women. AF/BB benefit men AF men in the ideal. I'd argue AF/BB and Baby Mama culture its far more common for the BB also to procreate with that woman, which benefits his imperative if not in the ideal.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 09:41 AM
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Yeah the pay sucks as men are generally not the focus of heterosexual porn. They have to do things like maintain erection post orgasm, as often cum shots are first and then you have some hours of takes with different positions.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 10:54 PM
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Watch some documentaries on male performers in the porn industry and you might change your mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 10:15 PM
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Show men in real life that the regular guys have success too What does AT do to improve anyones situation?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 10:06 PM
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Which part of 20% women you didnt understand ? What is there to understand? Is it that another 20-30% of men are not defining themselves as in relationships while the women are? so 70% + are doing fine?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 10:04 PM
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No, I think both men and women have different privileges and challenges. But not privileged overall (*In Western countries in 2023)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 04:31 PM
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Humans don't like every human they come across and that's okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 11:11 PM
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List of reasons why anyone dates anyone; it's pretty much the same for my female friends dating males a decade or so younger. IME when I was younger most guys didn't want to deal with younger women. But I'm in the UK, and small age gaps have been the norm here for hundreds of years.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 11:01 PM
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How old are you op? Did you not do dumb things when you were young?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 10:59 PM
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I'm back on mobile now and shut down my pc, but open and go to results etc. Somewhere within it talks about age and gender not having a significant effect on view - as in everyone judges them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 12:36 AM
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I was thinking of this one https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1300/j002v33n04_02 Large age differences in relationships were found to be significantly less acceptable as the age-difference increased and there was significantly stronger opposition to female-older relationships than to male-older ones. ​ Though this one says the opposite (on that subject, it also finds the larger the gap the more judgement upon them) : https://www.researchgate.net/publication/325808795_Perceived_inequity_predi…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 12:17 AM
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Flutter away any preconceptions that it's a personal slight. 50%+ are in relationships so your being rejected out of the gate, take away ones chasing someone else, those who don't want to date at all and all of a sudden you are enough women's type your actually 50/50. 2 out of 10 is pretty good numbers game results. Most women are not open for business at any one time.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 11:59 PM
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Gap relationships are shamed regardless of which is older/younger. I read a study once that suggested older woman younger men was more heavily judged of the two.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 11:48 PM
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Rape isn't only womens problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 08:55 PM
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The threads discussing what counts as a n count haven't been around in a while. I wanted to visit how everyone though it interacted with their idea of what is / is not a virgin to see how high a n count person could be while still being their definition of virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 05:08 PM
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That’s 1% of men. Get a handle on yourself. 1% of men doesn't mean experienced by 1% of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 12:43 PM
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That’s almost no one. It’s because of mainstream feminism’s demonization of men. You think sex pests care?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 10:32 AM
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Being anti-authoritarian is a core right wing trait Anti authoritarian is neither a left no right wing trait. Authoritarianism can manifest in both, and both want it when it suits them. Right wing authoritarianism in America can be seen recently in book bannings, abortion bannings etc. Traditional conservatism is all on restricting freedoms in how people dress, who they date etc to force cultural preservation.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 09:44 AM
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personality that really has gained the level of popularity of the people you mention that has articulated a viable message What viable message have the others articulated? The others are not as popular because lazy women bashing is more attractive prospect to men than actually having to take responsibility and enacting self improvement. Something that separates earlier TRP to content creators now. In other parts of the thread people keep talking about actionable advice, but what actions are F&F …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 09:38 AM
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the left's idea of male role models... So recently I've seen Pedro Pascal at the top of the celebrity list for this.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 09:35 AM
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This is a story of a man who cheats on his wife when she needs him the most. He lists himself as having pretty much zero redeeming qualities while noting events like blaming her for their newborns health issues. He sees depression kicking in, and his course of action is abandonment and to have an affair. No ones going to be on his side OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 12:26 PM
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Moreover, posts like this just kind of make them more appealing to the kind of person they want to appeal to, because again, the point of it is to be seen as fighting back against whatever perceived enemy the group has. I disagree with this point; When this topic has come up on things like /ukpolitics there are always replies from guys who used to be waist deep in this sort of rebellion when they were teens. They can and do snap out of it, and those events are precursored by a jumping the shark …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 10:18 PM
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This used to be a part of RPW before it got soft.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 06:49 PM
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If i support hookup culture i'll be making it difficult to find a virgin wife. Do you want someone who is a virgin by choice or force? Or is that irrelevant in your calculation? Because if you care about her values rather than just the status then while its harder to find it's also a self selecting bonus. Glass half full and all that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 04:52 PM
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The only time guys were ushered away was by prior agreement. These people are literally your friends, its like asking how often do your guy friends deliberately cock block you?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 10:00 AM
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But yeah, here you go, feel free to refute or hand wave away each one of the statistics here: Most of those do not have sources, and of the ones that do half are non specific. While I like having things all in one place without links I can't take such at face value.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 09:52 AM
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Not all of these events were the elite, the Rotherham grooming gangs were other working class folk. Likewise I was sexually assaulted as a minor (I guess around 2002) and was advised by the same authorities there was no point pursuing because sentencing was poor, court is stressful yada yada. This is not how it would be handled today; but views around consent have changed MASSIVLY during my adult life. The concept of grooming wasn't even a thing before.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 10:44 PM
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5% which is true if you only look at the proven to be false. Far fewer than 5% are * currently * proven to be false. In the UK recently a woman was sentenced for false allegations and these cases were listed as 1 in 300 as part of the report into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 10:34 PM
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It's a much more easily proven crime. In the UK least for some decades statutory rape of minors was glossed over because the minors involved were vulnerable/working class and in some cases the perps were wealthy or in positions of power. While I don't think rape culture is now like it was (go back 7 or 8 years when Yes means Yes was gaining traction it was extremely controversial on things like Red Pill, where the general view was only violent rape is rape) , throughout the 90's / 00's we have a…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 10:29 PM
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I do not know about my paternal grandmother, my dad's dad died when he was young. She outlived another two husbands, her kids took care of her into old age. My maternal grandparents yes I think so. They met as teens and my grandmother reminisces fondly, out in the countryside with her friend met and got a lift back home with two motorbikers. She was independent though from the off (as I believe my great grandmother was), she was working and saving to visit Venice after seeing it on a post card a…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 10:05 PM
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Really interesting reading everyone's stories.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 09:50 PM
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The letter of the law isn't gendered.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 07:43 PM
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But because of my own values Yeah that's why I don't and my husband didn't. But not everyone here holds those values, and more over some of those that don't hold those values profess to still care that their partner should have those values.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 12:14 AM
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If you type body count the last couple of post have been from women We didn't start the fire ~~~ Women are creating posts in response to men's posts, the n count debate goes back a few years now, and its pretty circular.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 12:07 AM
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They also have self control. I mean, 50 guys a year outta 365 days when there's apparently never-ending lines of men is relatively a lot of self control? If you had women lining up for days how many would you have sex with in a year?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 08:26 PM
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There was one of RPW a few days ago with a woman talking about her married friend who sleeps around and goes around breaking up marriages even when the guys have kids. While it was centered on the OP and friend situation I smh about these guys dropping their wives and braking up their families for such promiscuous women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 03:43 PM
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Hvm, lvm.... Whatever. The only thing that matters is if people are happy. They're probably not what you or RP would define as a HVM. But your preference in men does not matter. A man who can forge ahead with what he wants without submitting to the shaming and pressure of other men is pretty hot in itself
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 03:28 PM
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Most English football teams operate at a loss. For example Manchester United have a current debt around 500million.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 10:57 PM
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Men have body autonomy. Parents can make medical decisions for their children. Reproductive rights for men are not body autonomy issue per say, they do not get pregnant. Routine circumcision in 2023 is imv archaic ( not practised in my country outside religion). I don't march or protest anything, but I'll get passionate debating it as much as any other issue I feel strongly about.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 10:17 PM
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Trying for force aged doctrine is how religions die. If Muslims want the benefits of modernity in secular countries, they need to modernize and assimilate. If not gtfo and go back to this 'paradise' that 'works' they.... fled from.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 10:01 PM
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Things like bad hygiene and obesity get the side eye from near on everyone regardless of gender, while promiscuity isn't nearly as universally disliked. More like just height perhaps.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 06:50 PM
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No. I have a problem when people use it as a stick to beat others with, name calling, shaming etc. Having preferences is fine- keep it in context of yourself rather than others. Guy's default insult towards women tend to be based on discussing their lack of attraction towards that particular woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 10:22 AM
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Birth rate is another issue society has to deal with, but I'm talking about the mental health of a woman that want to be a mom later in life, spending thousands in treatments that may end up in nothing, after multiple miscarriages and pregnancy complications. That is regrettable; I don't think education on this issue is currently be a problem (Least not in the UK, I hear US education is rather shaky depending on state) while there well could have been previously, especially as those who are adva…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 02:28 PM
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Women should take seriously the question if they want to have children or not early in life and stick to it to avoid suffering. They do consider it. Its very common for women not to want children earlier in life (or just be 'maybe', where no is then the default) . If women always stuck to it we'd have a much lower birthrate. Women who are sure at that age go and get it. Edit; A better solution, Women do not want to held at ransom or dependent resource wise, and that is reasonable for anyone. Its…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 02:14 PM
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No, men compete against other men not women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 10:52 AM
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Sex robot thread reminder that women would also be consumers in the ai robot market, rather than just men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 11:06 PM
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D. I'm average, married to mr average and I'm attracted to him, though physical attraction is based on who he is as I didn't see him (or anyone) and instantly feel sexual attraction based on how they look. This doesn't mean I don't love his body and face - more that it's a consequence of attraction rather than the driver. These questions might as well be asking me if I realize the sky is pink - it's so foreign to my perception and mechanisms of sexual attraction. I've considered I might be Demi,…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 10:51 PM
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Of the ones who commit to it then yes. Mostly because regular men don't care that much about casual sex to put in that kind of work though. It's not their goal in life. In some ways RP is self selecting. The greatest tool in RP arsenal is probably the numbers game, aka asking hundreds of women and getting a few.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 04:11 PM
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Idk who even Chris Brown is.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 10:15 AM
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Assuming those top 20% of men are not listing themselves as in a relationship that nearly covers the gap with 1 woman each.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 12:13 PM
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You're selecting for the nerdiest most isolated gamer addicts Nerdy gamers from millennials had sex. To play super smash bros co op you had to have irl friends back at the time, and we'd have parties / go to the pub etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 12:33 AM
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Often cited studies on unfaithfulness prerequisite these high N women measured were in relationships. We could presume the guy didn't know, but then it makes the whole conversation moot. As far as anecdotal my highest N friends are with higher N men, who I imagine care less as 'high' is somewhat relative, I imagine they know as it was casual that evolved into relationships for them. The women I know who are single in their 30's have ns of 2-4 from relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 10:10 AM
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Their actions are to set age limits on dating apps (as noted in one of the links), and most women date for the most part men within a few years? If we were looking at the actions of most women we wouldn't be debating. The average age gap in relationships is 2.3 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 05:10 PM
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If that was the most important consideration for attraction then they'd describe the most attractive to them more homogeneously, as men do. They don't. Strawmen unite! You brought higher, lower or average men into the equation.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 03:32 PM
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You think far more young, average 21 year olds will be more attractive than a high value 35 year old? To 20YO women, quite probably. But for sure 21YO high value guys are more attractive than 35YO HV guys to 20YO women. Average 21 YO guys are better looking than average 35 YOs with the balding or weight stuff coming in .
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 12:15 PM
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Most women find more established men more attractive than younger men What women find attractive is generally relative to their own age. https://www.businessinsider.com/dataclysm-shows-men-are-attracted-to-women-in-their-20s-2014-10?r=US&IR=T There is more overlap with pools for men in their 30's, but that's more because older women start choosing younger men than them as most attractive than younger women choosing older men as most attractive, with 30 being the turning point. There's plenty tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 11:07 AM
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The vast majority of young men aren’t attractive to young women either But far more of them will be is the point. Unlike with men, what is the most attractive or best looking age women indicate is dependent on the age of the woman. This is an important distinction; while men generally agree regardless of age women don't. It is the same studies that point to men's agreement that also discuss women's disagreement. Most overlap for guys happens early to mid 30's as they have the largest pool at tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 10:43 AM
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Yeah that's called evolutionary suicide...and a few of species got extinct due to that Most go extinct from an inability to adapt. Few go extinct because they're no longer producing offspring. We are where we are through diverging. We had environmental challenges so adaption and evolution to bipedal state was advantageous, though it made childbirth difficult - something that still persists today, but is offset by modern medicine. We are at the point we create and change biology. I don't see why …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 12:41 PM
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At the current rate, nuclear won't do us in, it will be humans willingly voiding their own biology. That's also called evolution.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 11:11 AM
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Link https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/hoover-alabama-girls-basketball-team-b2295332.html
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 10:52 AM
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I make him happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 08:43 AM
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Throughout history people have fucked, regardless of consiquences. Sex is too much fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 12:13 AM
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Although by hypergamy or "dating up" most people will think of these in traditional terms like status/wealth. Traditional terms default to the male POV. Of course only women can date up when the traditional value saught in a mate is the only half being measured :).
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 11:15 PM
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What nationality are you? English doesn't look like your first language. Also 6'5 is passed diminishing effects tall and into detrimental territory.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 08:20 PM
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I consider it an artifact of monogamy rather than femininity or femaleness. When participating in monogamy both men and women will pick their best available option, which by definition will excel in traits that is important to that person. A man who trades in his wife for a younger model is in my view hypergamic branch swinging. Those traits are subject to change somewhat based on environment and culture at any given time, as we've seen when women earn more of their own money there is a decline …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 10:00 AM
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Yeah it used to be the case beards were unfashionable. Now beards are fashionable. No one should underestimate fashion. Including for women, it used to be super skinny and now it's all about arses.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 04:02 PM
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Older men are great, it's like simp+++ because they're busy putting in a bunch of work to keep you around.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 03:32 PM
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Makes it a bit sus. PPD should skew with RP and Black that they don't want / cant get relationships relative to the general population.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 11:03 PM
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Spending money is better for the economy than saving it. It's also primarily women in teaching, nursing, charity and other people orientated jobs, jobs there are always vacancies for. Construction takes a terrible toll on the human body. Our electrician has had two back surgeries already and he's in his 30s.....
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 09:02 PM
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If Red Pill is much more popular, why are young guys struggling more than 2,5,10 years ago?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 09:52 PM
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My friends and I have our own GroupChats where we collect especially heinous things men have said online about women or girls. We also share those with other women and girls we know. This sort of selection bias is never good. Incels, MGTOW and RP are so because of things like this, because they choose to pay disproportionate amount of attention to the worst they can find and then declare it AWALT. Most men or women are not like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 01:47 PM
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Where have you seen sich claim? Some muslim forum? Oh you should have been on PPD (or I guess RP) back in the day. Womens right to vote was a hot topic as it was the cause of all their ills. Without the right to vote, men would be winning again, though this was not all RP by any means. Edit; Example of discussion
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 01:23 PM
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No, it can be a lot of things including a lack of partner wanting the same thing at that point in life. Their personalities will be part of rejections - that in itself though doesn't even suggest a failing on the man's part. Lack of social intelligence does make sense to be true for more men and women than ever, as more time is spent skipping social interactions and building those skills. We know lack of social intelligence is considered undesirable by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/23 05:32 PM
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If a guy cannot get dates and surface level interest from women (which is most men, tbh), Most guys >18 have had relationships or sex. While they may currently be single they're attractive enough for those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/23 05:12 PM
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I went to clubs or house parties every weekend etc. Lasted until late 20's, at which point social group were dropping out because families were forming / other life stuff / its not as fun when your body hates you the next day. No, I've never had casual sex, most of this time I was in LTR/s. Out of my friends group 2 women had regular ONS casual sex (like n>50), with another 2-3 having a couple of casual relationships, typically more FWB in those cases though. It didn't, other than social events …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/23 10:35 AM
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Red Pill conceptualizes SMV and RMV as separate entities because the value of traits for STR and LTR are different. Sexual Market value is about sexconomy, Relationship Market Value is about commitment economy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/23 10:26 AM
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Tough one. The more one deviates from baseline 'normal' the more the other can deviate and still be 'ahead' at least in hypotheticals. But I' not scared for virgins, my previous partner was such from late blooming and general introversion, Tom has a bit of a head start. So Tom seems like a better bet with so little information? Based on my history he's probably more like me but there's little between them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/23 12:32 AM
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We already separates mental and physical arousal and stimulation. That's the distinction here being made between toy and doll, one is an object that assists in physical stimulation, the other is providing mental stimulation.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/23 07:17 PM
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Women will continue to be 'The Prize' for as long as discourse phrases sex as something women give or reward men with.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/23 12:54 AM
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For example he first sees a woman and says she has a butt, boobs, etc. He doesnt make assumptions on her personality. Unless she's wearing something obviously revealing. Unless she's wearing something revealing. Unless she has short hair, or long hair, or coloured hair. Unless she has tattoos or piercings. Unless she's overweight. Unless she's wearing a dress. Unless she's wearing a suit. Form fitting vs loose clothes. Complexion and skin wear. High Heels? Expensive bag ( okay I don't know what …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 10:31 PM
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Indirectly? Is there a way for women to birth children without sperm? Explain. I was thrown off by your wording. Incubation and birth are both post insemination, they're both done by women - but yes for the whole process both are required. In modern times the labour of the other can be bought and sold. Capitalism reached family life, it was always going to.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 01:41 AM
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Working less is great. We should all be doing it and I'm watching our 4 day week trials with interest. Industries rise and fall with the needs and wants of society at any given time. Yesterday doesn't look like today and neither will tomorrow. Change is inevitable, and inevitably older generations cling on to their culture and endlessly complain about the state of -everything-. Change isn't automatically good or bad. We could half full this glass; How many here today would truly choose to be bor…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 01:35 AM
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Who incubates, births, and raises the humans? Is this a trick question? Both genders to a degree with women more directly and men indirectly, but in this example our society was never built without wifely intervention to prevent men becoming lost and listless. A trope about how men need to be fixed by being married off.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 01:17 AM
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...Maybe it's not a good idea to academically, socially and professionally discourage the people who design, build and maintain literally everything. According to OP, we have wives to thank for those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 12:43 AM
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I think both can love unconditionally with the exception it will fade with time if not watered (is that really a condition? If so the answer is then no I guess). I don't think it's a good idea to stay with someone unconditionally. I've broken up with men I've still loved.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 09:54 PM
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We could ask Pew to do better studies on the subject.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 07:00 PM
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I detest ideologies that are so divorced from reality that they cannot even fathom basic principles of existence that even toddlers figure out. Mainly that something cannot just magically appear out of nothing, it has to be taken from somewhere. I don't know about American education, but here people are well aware of tax and pooling, and why. You talk about Cain complex but capitalism is itself not 'fair'. People take more of the cake for working very little , sometimes for doing nothing, with i…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 08:42 AM
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That's really the basis of M/H; the wifely figure can not receive sex as the whore does from her husband because it would devalue her in his eyes (which sucks for hypothetical wife). Though it's usually phrased from the male POV. I did consider it could just be things like new relationship energy and anticipation with the resulting excitement, was really just interested in how they interpreted the why of their words. More attractive is an interesting one because there are studies around how we t…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 12:05 AM
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I like social democracy characteristics sprinkled in to keep things moving. Capitalism seems to fair better with it, creating highly productive countries with the best quality of life of its inhabitants. Not that the UK is a shining example of such, but it sure doesn't seem as bad as straight unfettered capitalism.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 11:51 PM
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They've always married.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 06:28 PM
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The OK Cupid blog didn't have any controls or weighting, didn't mention sample size or data quality, possible biases or even internal reviews of the work, and was formed for promotion of its platform for profit. Not for charity or the pursuit of research. Yes this is equally scientific - and by that I mean not at all. It's a few line graphs. I don't genuinely believe women are more productive than men, hence my massive dose of skepticism. I found OPs post sensational misunderstanding of events, …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 06:22 PM
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Chronic conditions are not usually so predictable; in this case it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 05:29 PM
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Single pregnant European women more likely to request abortion if the fetus is male. Is this with any sort of statistical relevance? Knowing the sex of the baby means late term, which the vast majority of terminations are not. I would take a quick guess this comes about as fetal anomalies spurring we can screen for in these termination types occur most often in males.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 04:36 PM
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B-But PPD women told me that any man over 30 who can't attract women are misogynistic creeps who will shoot up schools. Might be because that and woman bashing is what the manosphere has put out into the world. This is not typically put out there, but should be.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 04:27 PM
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I’m old school. Statuse are Single, Married, Divorced, widowed. Anything else is pandering to women Are you old school as in not living with partner or having sex until your married too ?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 04:20 PM
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unbridled, primal sex that you have with a hot stranger that you could never have with a partner. Getting close to some Madonna / Whore or AF/BB issues there. Why would you say you can't you have primal sex with a partner?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 04:13 PM
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He said that all of their wives got fat and cut their hairs short after they got married It amuses me it's the cut their hair short part which made me think he's talking bollocks.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 04:10 PM
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This assumes men and women (which groups so large are a poor indicator anyway) are as productive as each other as a baseline. If women have 10% more time off, but are 10% more productive while at work then nothing for the business is lost. There is rather fluffy and pieces I'm not inclined to take too seriously (its about as scientific as a ok cupid blog...) that state women are more productive. So women are as capable, hell, the companies don't even have to pay for the leave in this circumstanc…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 01:07 PM
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Maternity Leave is one thing. PAID Leave is another. Your guys maternity and paternity isn't paid leave? Welfare that promotes those people working is better welfare. Reasonable accommodations for disabilities, which women afflicted by such things would come under ultimately means more people in work, less welfare overall and more productivity.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 12:56 PM
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UK are islands, war looked different here - people don't roll up their tanks and our fleeing has historically been to the countryside's if at all. My eldest family members tell stories of their neighbors being blown up or the one that fell on the doorstep and didn't go off. People mostly stayed put. Maybe more pride than sense, but I'd expect able bodied men and women to serve in what capacity they can. Considering the strong emotions of people here about Ukraine and Russia, if it was us I don't…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 11:41 AM
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My husband is closest to Steve. He's not as far economically right as to hate unions, he prefers capitalism but also isn't afraid to criticize it (especially while we're financially losing out while British Gas makes reasonable profits). We're in the UK though so 'conservative' is different here. Social conservatism is not sexy and at it's extremes its repulsive.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/23 11:01 PM
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Guys are pretty smart about it imo, they just quietly drop them from the group rather than make a big show and dance.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/23 10:49 PM
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Some men slut shame men too.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/23 10:34 PM
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Fix the date, the location, and be persistent. This is the dodgy part. How persistent do you imagine you would have been if they were not up for a match? Likewise, if this was about a romantic date how persistent would you be?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/23 03:31 PM
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entire interaction is only happening because of sex in his mind. This work in platonic interactions, men can use direct motivation with other men too. Likewise I have some positive vibe friends who are women who interact the same way - especially those who plan gatherings are rather more to the point. Its positive persuasive language. I mean the guy played tennis with a friend here in the op, not tonsil tennis.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/23 03:10 PM
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On 2014 OK cupid data, the same author comes up with the same Gini coefficient for men and women. https://medium.com/@worstonlinedater/tinder-experiments-answering-questions-and-criticisms-part-ii-a-response-to-a-criticism-that-81a618d53a7a Overall though, I would not put too much stock in these. He notes a limitation with the Gini coefficient model here that it doesn't account for available income (or likes) pool, but I noted he fails to do so elsewhere despite knowing the gender ratios are poo…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/23 12:51 AM
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Hinge is about 64% men, but I don’t understand how it’s skewed Because there are more higher curved men than women looking, the pools are different sizes which affects the relationship economy. In post war eras places like brothels have flourished due to an over abundance of women. Men no doubt shifted towards the top % than ''staying in their lane'' or such because they could due to lack of competition.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/23 12:47 AM
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I feel jealousy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 05:54 PM
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They are quite well known (though pretty old now?), they articulate why Blue pill focussed relationship advice on communication or couples therapy first. If people can not work these things out, which requires both to try, then no it's not ridiculous to divorce. I think most couples have something alike to leaving the dishes by the sink. Something that is important to one person, which is inconsequential to the other, and each way. You can resolve this by each being responsible for their own iss…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 03:13 PM
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Younger women too most likely. Women's attraction is affected by perceived danger from the man, or at least the theory goes as to why hyper masculinity bring attraction ratings down.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 02:58 PM
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Is this suppose to be a conflicting choice? Vast majority of women are choosing Don, as are men for their daughters.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 02:54 PM
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Assuming I agreed that nature was limited in scope and biology absolute to use 'can't' (which in the grand scheme I don't), 'Cant' is still a pretty terrible qualifier. Can women not trade up? Can they not misattribute paternity? Saying they can't do these things, they don't really count because there is biological advantages is... Meh.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 09:00 AM
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Having said that, they expect men to “step up” and be a man. They didn't here. That's why the suggestion is incentives to single mothers. If women nor men will help the problem and smoosh themselves together in a family unit, then single mother(and fathers, imo) is the next. best option.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 12:10 AM
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Mmm yeah, I used to work in a sausage fest tech company and even a decade ago lifting was popular.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 11:11 AM
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I was way over my ideal BMI and was probably a 5/10 all things considered. Well over BMI? Probably not average but I guess it depends on location & age. ​ So, I totally focused on what you guys call "lookmaxxing" and nothing else. Is there a reason RP was required to try losing weight? Are you attracted to women well over BMI?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 09:51 AM
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My husband bought a thousands-of-pounds holiday for his ex when her affection was waning. She broke up with him and he took a friend instead, but the sentiment was all the same. I'm fine buying my own holidays. I do not doubt his love and care for me, I don't need to test him. I could manipulate the situation, his feelings, create insecurity (yay dread!) and take take take, but that's not the partner I want to be. I try not to hurt people I don't even know for personal gain, never mind those I l…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 12:10 AM
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Men will fuck.. you gonna throw away a marriage over me putting my pipe in a hole? Go for it Women can and do press the escape key on marriage for it. Its a simple calculation that concludes the marriage and the man is not worth the pain, insecurity and betrayal. Western women are free to make that calculation and choice without additional constraints. The upside is men are free to make those choices too, and the different rates of cheating between sexes are not that great.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 11:39 AM
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Also at u/MarBitt one looked at both sexes https://osf.io/preprints/socarxiv/ke5fj/ Previous research in this area has offered noteworthy insights, but has been limited by use of cross-sectional data and all-female samples Eheh. Results: The relationship between premarital sex and divorce is highly significant and robust. Compared to people with no premarital partners other than eventual spouses, those with six or more partners exhibit the highest divorce risk, followed by those with one to two …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 11:33 AM
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Why don’t more women like sports? I liked playing sports at school, in last two years we could just choose what we wanted to do in PE and we always played badminton or hockey with the guys and it was a highlight of the school week. However prior to that most classes were split by sex with guys playing sports, and girls doing trampoline or worse, step aerobics (Bleh, torture ) . Occasionally we'd play netball (which I sucked at since I'm on the shorter side) or rounders (which I didn't suck at) b…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 10:23 AM
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We cook together and have steak. This year a tomhawk on our Komado Joe <3
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 11:23 PM
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Cheating, also known as infidelity, is when a person in a monogamous romantic relationship has an emotional or sexual relationship with someone else without their partner's consent. Why can't men do the above?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 09:17 AM
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No, they're not advice subs. Least not in the way /relationship / _advice are.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 10:16 PM
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Go to pew site, open 'how we did this?' and there's a link to the questions. ASK ALL: MARITAL Which of these best describes you? Jul 5-17, 2022 51 Married 11 Living with a partner 10 Divorced 2 Separated 5 Widowed 22 Never been married * No answer ​ ASK IF DIVORCED, SEPARATED, WIDOWED, NEVER MARRIED OR NO ANSWER (MARITAL=3- 99) [N=2,793]: MARITAL2 Are you currently in a committed romantic relationship? Jul 5-17, 2022 20 Yes, in a committed romantic relationship 79 No, not in a committed As far a…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 09:23 PM
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but overblown as an excuse to reject average guys When did it become an excuse to reject average guys
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 03:18 PM
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That's fine, and I'm not against automatic testing in principle (though automatic testing has some issues like forced DNA tests on potentially non consenting adults, and is a whole other kettle of fish) . Feeling insecure over major life events where there is not certainty is legitimate concern. But that wasn't the point of the post. You can't separate requests for paternity testing from the accusation in the same way you can't separate STD tests or such. If it was a formality that is different …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 02:33 PM
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Getting a DNA test for me is a formality, And it is you who is unique in this, not everyone else. They're not gaslighting, they're basing it on the typical person, it is not a formality for the general population. The only reason normal people ask is because they think the kid might not be theirs, which means they think their partner could have been unfaithful.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 11:39 AM
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IMO money/resources explains it. The value each person is brings to a relationship is not always the same things. There are still plenty of more traditional relationships where resources are leveraged for a prettier mate (most obvious example of this is age disparity). Edit; Men 'punching above their weight' specifically in looks seems to be a source of pride between their peer groups. A noticeable modern example is passport bros, there was a video posted here last week about a happy relationshi…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 11:22 AM
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Yeah it's pretty crazy
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 08:39 AM
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That 30%, if it even applies to this age group (more likely a lower %, with higher % being seen in 30/40s groups), is more likely clustered towards the late 20's than early 20's.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 08:29 AM
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So you know a guy who knows a woman who likes a ex con? What are all the other women doing? You probably know a hundred or so between you. Problem with paying attention to what women do is that 1 women takes up more headspace than the others combined. It's the only circumstance written here despite my willingness to bet you know more happy couples first hand than this situation second hand (based btw on what someone is saying). Paying attention to what people do is prone to preconceived biases, …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 12:00 AM
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Shhhhh someone's just gonna chime in that you're the exception to the rule. Even though we both know that isn't true I swear, gym forums propelled heightism inceldom with all the guys trying to find something to blame for their difficulty dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/23 11:54 PM
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Go watch some of that trash paternity court show on youtube. It'll destroy anything on PPD pretty damn quickly.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/23 10:27 PM
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Out of sight out of mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/23 05:08 PM
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what purpose does a shirt cut low to expose the top of your breast serve other than to attract attention to your breast. I'm sure they used to say the same about skirts and ankles. Nothing here is new.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/23 12:36 PM
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Yes... I joined reddit summer of 2014 and found TRP / PPD not long after, via comments on /relationships. In my view, RP itself used to be more matter-of-factly. Things like N-count wasn't really a discussion because RP dealt in STRs not LTRs, though the concept of comfort and comfort tests existed. Abortion was generally a good thing in RP, again because it was STR based and it was about avoiding child support, there's some infamy from way back around guides to convince a woman to abort should …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/23 11:24 AM
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While I think there's less sociability all around (at least from observing FIL etc striking up conversations with randos left right and center, something people don't do now, with the caveat old men are not threatening in any way) the other thing that changed is you got older.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/23 11:12 AM
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It's a real concept, hypergamy in social caste, money and education has been declining in the west as access has increased for women. I conclude it's largely environmental & when using monogamy everyone tries to pair with the best they can.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/23 08:55 AM
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Not sure he has many fans. His following is mostly infamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 05:56 PM
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So if by screwed you mean that you simply have to ignore someones messages then yeah i guess you are right But which ones do you ignore?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 03:47 PM
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The UK judge had ties to the news outlet and should have reclused himself. He also stated his decision was predicated in part on her childrens hospital donation, which turned out to essentially be fraud to keep it tax free. The judge does not have ties that require them to recluse; sons employer being sister company to the sun is twice removed, finding someone who does not know anyone who works with a company connected in some way to a major newspaper isn't going to happen. They also stated he b…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 03:43 PM
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is like shopping on Amazon If we run with the analogy its more like a flea market where everyone is very interested in selling you their wares, following you down the main street etc. If you make eye contact you're screwed. That's why women are less inclined to use apps at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 03:15 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 12:47 PM
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One of the problems with accepting the seriousness of false allegations is that its not only persons who are wrongly accused that claim they are wrongly accused. Likewise 'legally cleared' most people read as 'not enough evidence to convict' because rape is usually unwitnessed by 3rd parties, lacking in material evidence and such meaning a low conviction rate as it is difficult to meet the burden of proof for a conviction. It is rarer there is absolute proof on this, either way. Notably the UK h…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 12:11 PM
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~1975 & back no one batted an eye towards this gap This is heavily dependent on location. In, for example Britain the average age gap in marriage has been between 2-4 years for hundreds of years, and there's considered a historical Eastern/Western European divide in coupling norms.
/r/RedPillWomen08/02/23 11:16 AM
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Objectively yes, though in practicality for most people it matters little.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 09:54 AM
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No. We don't want to make everything with judge with a thumb down illegal. Dynamics can be problematic and making laws can still be disproportionate. Saying that some countries have age of consent laws that depend on the age of both parties and scale.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 08:46 AM
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The nuance regarding this subject only comes into play if you make it past that threshold. Your personality does become a factor so long as you aren’t initially filtered out by your looks. Likewise though, your looks are irrelevant if you fall below someone's threshold for what personality attractiveness. One is just more apparent and able to be assessed before the other. Personality has additional considerations, take the dark triad personalities and their usage of deception.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/23 08:39 PM
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Basic but do you use conditioner after shampoo in the shower?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/23 01:00 AM
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You can choose to exist outside our society too if it was that important to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/23 12:46 AM
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Oh, I thought it was a typo of a new style of cutting board I didn't know about, ahah.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 02:16 PM
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That is a woman who likes sex a l o t
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 12:23 PM
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Claims women aren't emotional That's not what they claimed. and can argue logically. You'll be hard pressed to find many that suggest they can not argue logically, men or women. They did resort to using an insult, which might be your emotional reaction to it causing you to misrepresent their argument. Hyperbole is a pretty good indicator of emotional input.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 12:16 PM
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cittofn board/baords?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 11:58 AM
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It can also be explained by the stars or tea leafs - the ability to come up with an explanation is not meaningful in itself. Take for instance.... #1 10% of men get 60% of the matches on dating apps. Women are literally competing for the same men. Why? Because women instinctively compete for access to the highest value male. ​ Because Hinge has a 2-1 gender ratio and 10% of the women get 45% of the matches (Based on the same source). Men are literally competing for the same women while having mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 10:04 AM
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Welfare for kids is equal. Kids it's for are both male and female. Otherwise look up the Bastardy clause. It was a period in England where father's were absolved of responsibility for their bastard children and churched advised not to contribute to single mothers in an attempt to force women to act more virtuous. The tldr of it is that it didn't work and the law was repealed.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 08:48 AM
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I'd say no, but we know rich people do this anyway. Al la Epstein, Maxwell etc. Perhaps he aspired to build a similar empire as those down the line. I'd theorise it's more about power than money. Some people just keep pushing that barrier and are never satisfied. They need the thrill. The type may even be over represented in the rich, because those who seek power also seek money.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 12:45 AM
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What do you think is more important and why? Why I think happiness - we only get one life and it's damn short. No one's going to sit there on the deathbed and regret being happy. Edit; I though of an extreme in the streamer Asmongold. A guy with pretty much no aspirations, a multimillionaire who continues to live in the house he shared with his late mother because that's what he wants and where he is happy. He has more than enough to change his life completely, but chooses not to.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/23 09:25 PM
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I think most people can be happy, and I don't consider that a failure - that is imo the only thing that matters. Outrage stuff is counter productive, regardless of area or side.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/23 09:05 PM
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It wasn't the inclusivity that was the problem the user was commenting on, its the road for men that leads to the bottom of a bottle and some rope issue. To put it bluntly, Andrew Tate peddled a unachievable dynamic so more men can feel like failures in the future, and they paid him for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/23 08:57 PM
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'Realist', debatable.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/23 08:17 PM
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When people write 'tell honest' what I read is 'tell me what I want to hear'
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/23 06:26 PM
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I see only reason for men to get women will be status and having children, which is also the only reason I want to marry someday anyway. Maybe women will also be useful as real fleshlights for pleasure while the man watch a custom porn vide in his VR. That will be a good thing for ugly women. Why do all these scenarios exclude the existence of male bots/sex toys?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/23 02:16 PM
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Considering men value pinnacle beauty, innocence, cues of youth & fertility, and that usually is possessed in younger age groups of women, Assuming we're thinking of actually choosing a forever LTR, if this was of the upmost concern for the guy then when he is in that age range, this may differ between men. I should warn guys though that time will continue to tick away regardless, and picking based solely on a characteristic that will not be true tomorrow may not create the best outcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/23 11:40 PM
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Is that authoritiarian also? Yes, they're both authoritarian, its a balancing act. And if yes, is it a bad thing? Are you acknowledging that authoritarianism is acceptable if its kept quiet? Its acceptable at any given time and culture with consent from the electorate, when weighed with the severity of consequences both from doing so and not doing so, along with exploring other options. Which is a mouthful to mean it will all be case by case.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/23 04:53 PM
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What if people don't understand the macro impact their behavior has, or doesn't care how it affects future generations that will be even more impacted? Should people be allowed to destroy the future of someone who isn't born for a personal choice they are making today? Most people do not care and authoritarianism can only push so far before they're overthrown. The most prominent version of this today is climate change which has been known about for decades but relatively little action until the …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/23 04:10 PM
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But what if individual choices taken at the macro level have massive impacts on society for the worse, and this leads to the whole world becoming significantly worse for everyone? For example, let's say everyone exercised their personal liberty to not have children. Should that be allowed? I think incentives that turn ambivalence into action or ease downsides of doing so are ethical enough to reach the desired outcome, but if those were ineffective I'd assume everyone very much did not want to h…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/23 03:56 PM
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The average age of first marriage is 28 for women and 30ish for men. The average age gap is currently 2.3 years. Women's fertility does not end at 35, it gets harder to conceive. It's unlikely at 45 and hard stop for most is 50, in the west at least. If men, or women want kids (assuming they also want a healthy relationship in a two parent household...) and leave it too late that's really on them. The age of likely partner for them is included in that calculation - as it should be for women too,…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/23 12:34 AM
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https://www.hucknalldispatch.co.uk/news/crime/hucknall-teen-downloaded-anime-cartoon-child-porn-court-case-3544509 Just the first hit on Google, and ofc it's Anime. I only pasted the part of 'what is a child', other sections deal with when it's an offense (which includes fictional depictions of child porn).
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 03:24 PM
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Hypogamy is the act of marrying someone of a lower social and economic class than your own, not age Sorry, I am misleading. Its usually prefixed age-hypo/hyper gamy as in - https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23179236/ hypo / hyper is just the 'down' / 'up' prefix. Its usually noted alongside social status and caste hyper/hypogamy as the opposing factor.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 11:56 AM
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Yes and a fictionary character has no age that any prosecutor can prove it has When it comes to UK law this is irrelevant. If the jury believe they are under 18 it is classed as child pornography. A child is a person under 18 (s.7(6) of the PCA). A person is taken to have been a child at any material time "if it appears from the evidence as a whole that he was then under the age of 18" (s.2(3) of the PCA; s.160(4) of the CJA). The age of a child is a finding of fact for the jury to determine. Ex…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 11:30 AM
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Sorry, I’m new here. What’s BC? Birth Control in this context.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 10:53 AM
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men marrying 3-9 years younger women is around 30% of men. 10+ is 8%, those are probably rich men What that doesn't have is age breakdown at time of marriage. Its conceivable the most of those are people in their 40's/50's rather than 20's/30's. I don't think there is a stat breakdown for that, though I recall reading second marriages is where men tend to marry younger. Edit; Found it, good old PEW ​ Age differences are far more prevalent among remarried couples than among those who are marrying…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 10:27 AM
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There is plenty of observable evidence Self reported data isn’t science Observable is no better, sometimes worse than self reported. We are human, its unlikely we are objective and detached in observations.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 10:15 AM
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I agree they should not be looked down on. Be nice if people didn't for the millions of happy relationships in the USA etc either.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 08:49 AM
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Regulated in what way That is a answer I don't have.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 08:58 PM
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I think it needs regulation yes. Unlike revenge porn, at some point it will be extremely easy to create or obtain, and you know a lot is going to be targeted at individuals, used in smear campaigns etc. Hyperrealism should stick to AI generated people, not real folk.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 08:54 PM
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What is evidence if it can't be proven to be real? At that point Its down to the Jury if they believe it is or is not (no case with video is built entirely on it anyway). Which I don't think is better.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 08:43 PM
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No, every men with the opportunity to do so would, Every man with opportunity doesn't do so though, to the point we talk about Leo because its he that is the odd one out.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 08:01 PM
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'More frequently' isn't a measure a family man or women care about, they're not looking for quantity.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 05:17 PM
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Countless studies have found that women in marriages and LTRs are less interested in sex. There's no studies (currently) I think that would link this to AF/BB, as others have mentioned is as much evidence of AF/BB as it is that women need variety (which I don't think they do, but I do believe novelty plays a part) . My theory is just this is seen because in general there are more women who have reactive sex drives. The big exception is within the article: Tellingly, women who didn’t live with th…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 09:54 AM
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In general we like men and our lives are improved by those we know more than they're shadowed by those we do not. Just not the men they complain about. There's probably a lesson in there about the prevalence of negativity, but that's what fuels much of the internet and I don't see that changing any time soon. Reality is much more positive I find.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 01:33 AM
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(25% of men) I added it in a edit; yes while 14 % of women have. The overlap suggests some amount of men who have dated +10 younger have also dated +10 older, or just the survey source I didn't check.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 08:02 PM
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Women are more likely to have dated someone 10+ years older than them compared to men (28% vs. 21%). Or to break that down: 28% of women have dated a man +10 years older than them 21% of men have dated a woman +10 years older than them. (I paraphrased this at 20%) ------- Men are more likely to have dated someone 10+ years younger than them compared to women (25% vs. 14%) Or 25% of men have dated a woman +10 years younger than them. 14% of women have dated a man +10 years younger than them. Of c…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 07:33 PM
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5 years makes a pretty large head way I mean it makes massive headway. Men dating women 10 years older is 2% in 2017 and is now 20% Not only women dating older, men dating older is increasing at a more rapid pace. But again, I would think that has little to do with natural inclination.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 07:07 PM
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US population survey 2017 puts women with men 10 years or more older around 8%. How they get 25% in a study of 173 suggests data collection was heavily skewed somehow Vs population. Either way though; most do not. I wouldn't go around suggesting men have a natural tendancy to since in this study 21% of them had dated a woman 10 years + older than them (ipos poll)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 06:22 PM
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Stay at home ?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 05:28 PM
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Men by in large do not care about going to Asia or really branching out that far at all. This topic has far more prevalence here than there are men actually doing it. Its a new PPD stick to hit women with, carried out by those watching and funding successful men being successful and wishing they were that guy, wishing they had the will and risk taking to pack up and go. Migration to gain an advantage is not new.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 11:53 PM
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They're looking for wife material.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 11:48 PM
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Pretty much the script of all the single mothers/ fathers I knew growing up. Guys all had affairs and started new families (in a few cases the single parent is the father and he was cheated on and abandoned with the kids). Kids were all raising themselves because ofc primary parent was working at least 1 job, in one case 3 jobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 11:36 PM
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It used to be called the one that got away. Its not unique to women though in bluepill language, and can happen to either. I don't think its as common as people fear it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 11:00 PM
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I can't speak for all women kind here but second orgasms are not that great. They're often a little painful like a friction burn form the sensitivity, and a bit empty in comparison. Idk I'd go quality over quantity every time.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 02:09 AM
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Those more likely than not make up the divorce rate at some point, rather than being in addition to over the span of a lifetime.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 02:06 AM
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Most guys just fall in the middle of these two extremes, most guys can get some casual sex too. I think I've met one guy I didn't want anything more than sex from, at that time he would have liked to be more in the relationship sphere. It was the only time I've wanted casual sex and it didn't happen -because he wanted more. Never met a guy I wanted a relationship with and not sex tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 01:53 AM
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One of the worst things a person could do is hurt a defenseless animal” .... liberals assumed that conservatives would disagree Seems to me a case of; Liberals are thinking of things like fox hunting, trophy hunting, straight forward hunting, in some cases as far as the meat industry etc, where there is general apathy or opposition from conservative lobby, while conservatives are thinking of someone kicking a puppy in the streets or the like.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/23 02:05 PM
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I mean, shouldn't she just divorce him if she wants to have sex? That way, she won't be a cheater, problem solved. Its possible she (or he because it works the other way around too) still cares for that person and would rather provide their framework than them being chucked into a home to rot. They might have pension and / or health insurances that pay to spouse to take into consideration, which may be lost in divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/23 01:46 PM
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By the same metrics, men are happier now.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/23 12:31 AM
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Divorce likelihood increases as the age gap does, not the other way around.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 08:43 AM
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Why would this disprove that?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 08:38 AM
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I'd post this under automod if it existed. I agree; Traditional men going where women want him is fine. I would caution though: while there is often the idea here on PPD that women want traditional men without being a traditional woman, I would not consider most promoting this as traditional men themselves (Breadwinner, family orientated, values monogamy) . Additionally, as you are 40 this might be outdated. Certainly younger Asian migrant women I'm working with currently left to escape traditio…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 05:17 PM
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It’s funny you mention humans or animals, as if there’s another animal that exists in which step parentage is considered accepted by that species. It isn’t. Animals are attached to the offspring they produce. You won’t find another species where a mother will “introduce” a prior child of hers to a new mate or something like that. This is a uniquely human situation. Its not common (partially because social groups with long childhood dependency and nuclear families is not common) but it's not a un…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 11:11 AM
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I'm pretty sure the others don't want him tbf
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 10:29 AM
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This is literally where the term cuckold comes from, Cuckolds are unaware; in our terms it means an unfaithful wife/partner. In situation with prior mates, in humans or animals, the new mate is not referred to in this way. I challenge you to find a stepdad more objectively physically attractive than the babydaddy who made the kid Its not like we can just flick through the worlds stepdads, and in cases we know we can't always see the bio dad. So these guys from a quick googly are stepdads... The …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 10:27 AM
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Cheers
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 10:36 AM
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The sourcing is a bit confusing here is; Fig. 1 From any of those sources? is it 2 or 3?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 10:15 AM
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What is your view of the blue pill? Normies. They go out and date, have some shit experiences and some good ones. Most are neither doormats/simps nor authoritarian / dominant, but there are still those on either end. Common advice in the dating area is weaker for those struggling. Common advice for relationship issues are breakup or communicate, depending on the severity of the issue. For specific issues therapy is also mentioned often.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 12:30 AM
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it was set up to guarantee every woman a romantic and affectionate provider This is the least convincing thing I've read from you in this thread tbh. Sounds more like purge out of season.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 12:23 AM
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Paternity fraud is worse for the man than CS is for the woman, and husband conceives a child he abandons is worse for the child than the former.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/23 12:11 AM
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I want to see how fast the thread is removed and the person is banned for "being an incel". Idk why the quotation marks, they wouldn't be wrong. Red Pillers do not care because its about working with what you have and whats in your control. Purple Pillers do not care. The unpilled do not care. Not sure taller incels care enough to post polls about it on AskWomen either tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/23 06:40 PM
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The idea that some women here consider it as equally bad proves That women are not jumping to a conclusion about the context of the question? No one said anything about people secretly having a child with someone else. A circumstance that does come along but wouldn't be considered the typical situation. And for a man to secretly have children with others may not effect his wife directly, but it's certainly affecting the children to have absent fathers, abandonment, poverty etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 02:00 PM
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One is worse for the man and one is worse for the woman, but they're both leaving a similar trail of destruction behind them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 01:53 PM
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A huge data set from the dating apps show that 80% of the women are only dating 20% of the men. No it doesn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 10:58 AM
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Dread game 'works' on men. Least as effective as it works on women which imo isn't that well. In science it's called mate guarding and everyone employs it. On pre selection, I don't think it it makes women more attractive, but studies suggest it doesn't make them any less attractive either, men simply do not care. A lot of Redpill comes from 'women do this naturally so you should too'.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 08:35 AM
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PIV != Sex. Nor is PIV required to orgasm. Even when I watch porn I can tell they can’t really feel/get into it They're actors/ actresses, no ones really into it. In the majority of porn shots the men have recently orgasmed and are running on dick pills. Porn is entertainment, its shot for arousing other people. Women's arousal and sexual organs do not work in the same way as men's. You seem to have taken that as 'do not work' and imagined a whole scenario to fill in the blanks you created by ig…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 05:05 PM
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How do we know they haven't made a solid case? We wouldn't know. They don't need to cut their time early.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 08:43 AM
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Assuming we take the leaked text conversations as unverifiable, there's obviously evidence to get to the point of seizing assets. We just don't know what it is because that's for the prosecution and defense to hash out.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 08:36 AM
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Its just male perspective orientated hypergamy (or more literally known as hypogamy because 'down in age', but its the same thing while 'down in age' is seen as 'better' than 'up in age' ) , something something better than them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 02:01 PM
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It's generalized advice that improves chances of getting what they want or living a happier life. What would you suppose better advice is?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/23 02:21 PM
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Now I have spoken with several single men and asked them if China invades Latin America would they fight back, they all massively agree they wouldnt or they would defect to the chinese. And they preffer to be jailed than to fight for its country. That IQ will send most women running tbf. Who in their right mind would choose to be womanless and uncomfortable shitting in a bucket and fed trash rather than womanless and comfortable. Enforced monogamy met opposition; it was not stable.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/23 12:24 AM
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Generally speaking men don't care about women's income and two poverty level incomes are better than one They care about how a woman looks and acts, you can separate both of those things by class.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/23 12:21 AM
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A more generous take though, 'In my experience' is that person implicitly acknowledging their experience is not a representative, especially when following up with a question is open and seeking information outside it. Its at least a whole lot better than those stating experience matter of factly.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 09:37 AM
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What amusing about you "bluepillers" is that you say a lot of questionable nonsense yourselves ... Well, there are no clear-cut psychological differences like there are between humans and primates. The user was pointing out human vs primate psychological differences are clear-cut.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 03:58 PM
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Our brains are really quite remarkable. Neuroplasticity is amazing.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 01:13 PM
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men are not dying alone, only women are. Other than men die a few years younger on average, the sex ratio in humans means this is not true. They may displace others but they're still single men as a result from it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 01:00 PM
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I believe some differences are rooted in nature and biology. Which differences, to what extent and what is cultural is more the question. Edit; Its more scales than binary and where/extent do they overlap, what is the measure of variance. How much is rooted simply in hormones and so on and so forth. If we do not perform roles do we merge? We see biology changing right now (and our biology has changed significantly throughout the ages) , our hormones are influenced by external factors so which is…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 10:32 AM
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Oh really - you wouldn’t stop alimony as a woman? No. And now young women are matching, or even outlearn men with 30% of women being the higher earners in marriage, changing it now seems rather pointless if you are a man, as alimony is increasing awarded to men. Could you share with us how often alimony is ordered by law Vs. how many people legitamately need it Vs. How many people abuse it? Those stats do not exist. We know (In the USA) around 10% of divorces have alimony stipulation and in 2010…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/23 04:26 PM
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So what is it that women would like to hear ? Talk about what you do want rather than what you don't. Keeping it positive rather than focusing on negatives will come across better in general. Otherwise, especially when choosing to use inflammatory or derogatory language, it comes across ranty and bitter.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/23 10:17 AM
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Alimony isn't reserved for women. Retraining orders for influential people talking about non or less influential people they're entangled with legally is just smart, she probably did him a favour and stopped him auto losing. Its easy to manipulate a mob in these parasocial relationships, viewers forget they don't actually know these people. You don't need to be married or common law or ever in a romantic relationship to have a interest in assets or request legal help in ascertaining ownership of…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/23 08:22 AM
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Nothing. In most of the western world alimony isn't the typical case in divorce. Its reserved for specific circumstances for the financially disadvantaged individual as a stop gap. Do some people abuse this? Yes. Is it enough to matter or rewrite the rules vs the people it helps and is legitimate for (including deterring financial abuse from a partner who feels they can not leave) ? No. Alimony is not thrusting anyone into poverty (because if you were paying for two on a single income, and now o…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/23 04:07 PM
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Anyway... I don't get the logic. I don't how you can make sex seem value-less when you're having casual sex... but when you meet the guy of your dreams, now your sex is deemed valuable and must be protected by waiting. I have no first hand experience, but the logic is pretty straight forward. Hookups, the guys and the sex are not of the same value to those women. From my perspective, a lot of casual sex is the guy being in the right place at the right time, the woman wants sex an there's a suita…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/23 03:41 PM
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I haven't seen much on YouTube about it, but Macron got a lot of flack. Interestingly thats mostly men shaming other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/23 12:52 PM
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I'd choose Andrew Tate's life *every single time* over the life of a halfeducated, autistic, doom-mongering eco-cultist. And the only car I own is a diesel Tiguan. But would you rather that or the life of a halfeducated, autistic, doom-mongering Tater?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/23 12:43 PM
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one of the most cited psychologists in history Bit dramatic, I don't think Peterson cracks the top 100. Freud is probably the most popular ever, and many consider him a hack these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/23 12:32 PM
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Being husband material in modern times This whole line of thinking assumes as a base women want to or are happy to commit and spend the rest of their lives with someone they don't want to have sex with. That doesn't sound like modern women. Sex is a integral part of relationships these days for women too, and they're all over /deadbedrooms complaining when the tap is dry themselves. More traditional or conservative 2.5 kids w types maybe with the marriage for family and functionality, but my ide…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 05:16 PM
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It’s just bluepill gaslighting by refusing to acknowledge reality. No, that is the reality. --- Divorced Men remarry more often than women https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2014/11/14/chapter-2-the-demographics-of-remarriage/ Among those eligible to remarry—adults whose first marriage ended in divorce or widowhood—men are much more likely than women to have taken the plunge again. In 2013, some 64% of eligible men had remarried, compared with 52% of women.9 This may reflect, in part, the…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 04:50 PM
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Especially when the reason we know more about male anatomy and medicine is because more men have been experimented on and carved up for medical experimentation than women. The why that is the important part. Its not because they were protecting women. Its because they didn't care about them in the context at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 03:24 AM
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There's guides for men on looking better, eating better, hygiene and styling. At a individual level you may be told to go to clubs and bars often etc. But it will draw the line before any mention of manipulation. There are few men who really only want to be viewed as only sexual objects, I would suppose if RP didn't exist then male strippers would be the first port of call to check in on.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 12:32 AM
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"If The Red Pill is wrong, how come The Blue Pill doesn't offer an alternative guide?" BP doesn't need a guide for it. They either don't want it, or don't have trouble attaining it without having to refer to a guide. BP as 'not RP', spans the most successful to the least successful guys in the world on any metrics you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 12:06 AM
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75% ever, 20% actively. 10% of the actively. Women who have had 1 or so casual encounters probably a lot higher. I think its probably around the same for men on both counts.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 10:42 PM
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What if no one asks
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 09:03 AM
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To be too serious and bring down the mood... Naw. I've seen/seeing my aunt's etc working through the end with their partners. Parkinson's, dementia, cancer etc. Men tend to die a little younger and there's a age gap of a few years so it happens this way more. Sucks for everyone involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 10:41 AM
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It is in no way a controlled experiment .
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 04:57 PM
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Get a wand, mains powered.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 08:55 AM
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Where have all the good women gone
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 09:08 AM
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The statement jumped on was 'young girls' rather than 'young women'
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/22 09:10 AM
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Because culture is still transitioning. SAHDs are trending up. In 2016 nearing 20% of SAHP were dad's. This culture change was gaining steam late 20th century, it's only relatively recently we've acknowledged men are as good a caretakers of children as women, who were the default. First wave will be around 30 of so years old.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 04:07 PM
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It’s a surprise to the scientific community Is it? I feel like the female happiness rating discussions are not new (ex. Part of Red Pill Theory from over a decade ago is based on declining female happiness in a older study) . The scientific community are seldom surprised by social sciences issues, and there are long standing phycological theories for why objectively better off people do not always subjectively feel better off. ​ but societies that have gone the furthest in promoting gender equal…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 12:09 PM
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Is on top of blankets kinky to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 12:11 AM
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There's contextual differences between ONS etc and dating. I haven't met anyone here who really confuses the two. Maybe just the social norms around each are easier to read.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 08:32 PM
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Dysfunctional homes are equally as toxic as people from divorced homes. Divorced homes can be much better than dysfunctional ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 10:57 AM
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It's not hard for a woman to set up a date on there. But then the next conclusion in this chain is women are getting relationships from them. They wouldn't stop using them if it was a hookup.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 11:24 PM
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If that were true then guys wouldn’t need sexual variety They don't. Mankind continues on with the vast majority of men in our history never having had sexual variety.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 11:13 PM
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We're not under a matriarchy, that's capitalism, the economic model you are taking issue with.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 02:47 PM
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To me well kept hair is more important than the color is it healthy, moisturized? You seldom see many people walking around with hair colour, greasy & uncoloured roots. Hair colour takes a lot of maintenance in itself, it has to be well maintained for the dye to take. Bleach might have to be used and roots will always need doing. piercings tats and colored hair .... All those things above people who have those issues a lot of them lack discipline. I don't know how this conclusion is reached. Eac…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 11:59 PM
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We are still geographically in Europe, we didn't paddle the island away! 'We' left the European Union, (We being the United Kingdom of England dragging Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland with us). To further confuse matters, 'Britain' is the collective of England, Scotland and Wales - it does not include Northern. Ireland. Europe would be fine without Britain though, the only complication is the UK has nukes off the mainland.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 05:21 PM
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Its not just the CDC (though it's a bit more than 4-8 I think in those numbers), and not all data is collected, cleaned, weighted and measured equally,. They don't all deserve the same consideration in that calculation.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 01:08 PM
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C. Let some excitement build up.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 01:05 PM
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and virtually none of the new ones say that the average N count is 4-8 basically anywhere in the western world One thing that is missing is splitting into age cohorts, but some are still pretty close. Take for example CDC https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nsfg/key_statistics/n-keystat.htm 2015-2019 data.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 01:01 PM
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When you know a women has a high N count do you think their man is seen as desirable or Its inconsequential to me, and as far as I can tell much of the world outside the manosphere and/or conservatives. Of the people I know most are paired up with similar n counted persons.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 12:58 PM
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Just fyi, updated stats on this dropped There's plenty of better studies for updated averages that isn't primarily gay audience based studies from a anal restoration business that will actually have controls and stuff. decoy88 has a post somewhere listing out all sources.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 12:47 PM
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Most women on this sub claim men are only as loyal as their options I thought this was what men claimed. Its more a Kevin Samuels and F&F line. If you want the best takes find the people who argue the case men cheating isn't disloyal because they still want woman A.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 11:34 AM
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In the UK in 90's /00's it wasn't uncommon (where I was anyway, lower working class area) to see men (drug dealers, groomers, any trashcan with a car really) hanging around high schools and picking girls up at closing. HS in the UK is up to 16, so technically legal here.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 01:55 AM
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Because I like him? Personally I was always open to older men , though this particular gap did give me pause which I brushed aside because infatuation. Previously he was dating someone 7 years his senior, and I wasn't convinced he was completely over her. I also experienced insecurity at not being able to pull off 'Classy older woman' having a baby face and being in my late 20's at the time. The best pill is the world does t work to any one formula.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 01:46 AM
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Old news. The majority of men I've met are disinterested in hooking up, and thinking x y z looks best does not want more make. There are many factors that go into deciding if we want to date someone. Who looks the best is one that often gets buried by other factors especially when there's little between them and the individual is older than young adulthood.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 01:35 AM
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Your building on an assumption that most that exist are highly transactional, but don't dismiss the working classes propensity for age gap relationships so easily. I am pretty average as is my partner. We both had some relationships that didn't work out before we met.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 11:54 PM
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Right, and average men won't prefer average younger women in this model because??? There are practicality and lifestyle implications too, as well as social stigma etc. My partner is 16 years older than me and is not this high an earner. Regardless, the title and idea is pointless unless you are suggesting only rich men, 98th percentile earners (or whatever this fits at the moment) date younger women (this is not the case).
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 11:45 PM
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How many older men have you propositioned as a young woman? I did my fair share. I know not all men want younger women, for many men, especially ones with their shit together they have lower age limits.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 11:37 PM
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You can't complain about older men dating younger women if you're a young woman who only dates men who make $80,000 or more. Hop skip and a jump from one to the other there; most men looking to date younger women are not high earners. There are probably more men in their 30's still living with their mom driving up on high school than rich folk.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 11:04 PM
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I don't think you can prove a conclusion, more like back up a theory. But likely yes, those who do not get into a relationship for sex do not place sexual characteristics of men highly.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 11:52 PM
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on average, men are pursuing at their own level. As someone already commented, while men rated on a bell curve when they initiated they pursued the top % of women, when women initiated they pursued on a curve.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 06:38 PM
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Did he know there were worms in the coconut? No he didn't. The big BUT is that they appeared because he kept using it without cleaning.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 06:07 PM
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Yes. Most people are good. While there is self preservation and self interest, we are also social creatures making group preservation and interest an important facet of who we are. We operate by social hierarchy which ties both together. Individuals may not be, but I take the stance there's a lot of blowing hot air online many would not do irl, because the internet is an artificial environment that doesn't accurately reflect who people are.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 09:49 AM
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Different women want different things, if this is so consistent then your type is probably in the realms that keep themselves prettiest at all times and one of the reasons for that is enjoying the high life. If you want someone that doesn't fit that match women who don't look like they enjoy the high life.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 01:33 AM
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if we exclude them and look at leader types, meaning business men, ceos, executives, VPs, the types of men who actually lead people and have to work for every penny, they wouldnt marry any of these women. same with billionaires. Those keeping up appearances no, they're stereotypically more into paying for doms. I overall disagree with the idea CEOs etc come from nothing while entertainers etc are born with money - I don't think that's a trend. Plenty of business leaders were born into money and …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 06:25 PM
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lol no. see yes, but not married lol yes, like it or not these are the same social circles. Bonnie Rotten is in the current news for filing for divorce on her actor husband. Things like sex tapes launched Paris Hilton and Kim Kardashian to stardom. Back in yester years Page 3 and playboy launched careers.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 04:41 PM
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that's fallacious because the dudes marrying them are weak feminine push over who aren't leaders, and women don't respect them and neither do men. Like in most areas of life the people porn actresses marry are most often their colleagues and social circle, so porn actors for the most part. Most famous ones marry politicians, billionaires, actors and singers.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 03:47 PM
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Would you also feel the same way about: The why is having multiple partners felt good and validating to him. Blue Pills are born. Red Pills are created. Yes. I'm not justifying the action with the sentence, that is the explanation. The men would not have been okay with it so she is lying to continue to have those partners. That does not make her or him a good person, but it's why people do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 04:10 PM
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Why does it need an explanation? It isn't deeper than us humans have feelings romantically and sexual are not always restricted to one person, and some choose to act on those. The why is having multiple partners felt good and validating to her. Sometimes there can be other reasoning or such coming into play but they're rather varied and situational - they can't all be lumped into one neat little box. People may not like it and I understand it's a scary subject because for the most part it's outs…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 01:07 PM
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Marriage is for any two persons who want to legally join themselves as a unit. This is more enticing when having children, but it's not limited to, nor do children require their parents married.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 03:33 PM
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I didn't say it was the same. TRP evolved from PUA, it made up explanations to the why of PUA, the bit thats the same is most of the game stuff, for example negging, LMR AMOG all predate TRP in PUA. Google history of negging and other buzzwords.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 08:39 AM
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I don't think it actually sprang from the PUA world? It did, much of its language comes from PUA.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 12:39 AM
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Building on logic and AWALT is no good if your base assumptions are bad. AWALT is more some women are like that so apply it to everyone rather than some women are different.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 02:22 PM
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That's incorrect still. N-1 women pool, 20 out of 100 cheat. N10+ women pool, 26 (30% increase) out of 100 cheat Or something like that - that's closer anyway. Edit; It was somewhere between a 20-50% increase between low and high, but these were smaller % we're stacking in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 02:14 PM
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Most divorcees won't be under 30.... But the stat is for all men and women rather than age groups. I don't think I've seen it with age groups to be able to cherry pick it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 11:00 PM
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Men remarry more often and faster post divorce, men are known for trading up with wives but RP categorise branch swinging as female behaviour , a result of hypergamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 08:17 PM
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Statistics don't lie, but imo a lot of people here them too literally / don't know how to read them. I used the example last week of something everyone knows: The average male height is 5'9. I probably would not question it if I said my partner is not this height, because you see people outside the average all the time. People fail to see this in statistics or another fun thing is dependent on the measurements average of women does not translate to the average woman depending on distribution. If…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 03:31 PM
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I think most of the sports things are based on historically women not permitted to play many of them. Less women started playing and as the defacto matches were male that continued. However the gaps are closing, (males certainly have impressive traditionally feminine competitors in things like gymnastics) and when there is high competition between teams (rather than obvious skill gaps) matches are exciting regardless of gender. As in, there's nothing really between peak men Vs peak men and peak …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 03:01 PM
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I care what it looks like because I'll be wearing it, but otherwise there are lots of lovely rings and styles with different or no stones.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 10:29 PM
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LAFS is not the same as spark for me. I knew my partner socially (within the same group but not 'friends') for months prior, I got a jolt while out with friends bowling (specifically he put his hand on the small of my back) and thats all they wrote. Its a rush of excitement with sexual interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 10:21 AM
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Because that age gap isn't so controversial and 30 something's with 40somethings is more common out in the wild. When people complain about age gaps it's usually teen to early 20's with early 30's.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 07:25 PM
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It can certainly be the case It can be, but it doesn't seem typical. Most judge these relationships, and older women younger men are judged more. Young women judge, older women judge, younger men judge, older men judge. Everyone judges. They are judged because of perceived inequality with one party punching out of their league. Its like seeing a couple where one is overweight and the other lifts weights, its an obvious tip of scales that can be seen by people with eyes.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 01:52 PM
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76% of russian people voted for him. He makes sure there are no credible opposition, one way or another because its authoritarian enough to do so. Its the least democratic democracy, next to puppet regimes. While there's a lot of potential improvements to democracy elsewhere, term limits are a great and IMO necessary tool to protect constitutions from these masquerade dictatorships. There's a lot more to democracy than holding a vote. Things like freedom of the press are essential.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 11:41 AM
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Link is NSFW because site sponsors buttplugs.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 12:45 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 11:00 AM
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I think its hilarious when guys say "women have nothing to offer now days" yet they spend A LOT of time ranting about not getting laid. Yeah. When a guy says this I presume he's just trying to make himself feel better by trying to put others down. But. I don't see the need to put guys down in turn, ime the majority of men do not think like this and its a disservice to lump them all together. Women like and want sex too, they may be less inclined to pay when they don't need to, but IMO monetary v…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 10:59 AM
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People who choose poorly making the conscious effort to choose better is normal and imo not a bad thing. The rest is projection. There are no kids in this picture. She looks young. It isn't about physical attraction unless we're suggesting physically attractive men are trashcans and not so physically attractive men are wonderful - which at least ime is not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 10:32 AM
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While that's the original claim on RP (minus the casual sex part, that was adjusted later), it's more common here (and elsewhere now) to see 'women are only attracted to the top 20% of men'.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 11:14 PM
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"Most of our sample (aged 18-82; roughly as many men as women) said they had had casual sex (73%) ever Might as well shut PPD down with as many men as women having had casual sex. This is the 80/20, but in the opposite direction.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 11:00 PM
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The ones who wanted my commitment were at the lower end of the spectrum Ah well your op didn't specify this, only your willingness to commit so a bit lost in translation there. Idk, I've personally never had any issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 05:10 PM
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Of those 6 I was keen to date and quite possibly commit to three of them. The other 6 with whom I made it clear I wanted nothing more? They were the least attractive that I was "meh" about. To them, I was a man who didn't want commitment and who "only wanted sex". With them I either directly told them that I didn't see anything long-term, or casually sent texts like "you want to come over tonight and have a little fun?" so that they were well aware that I didn't see anything serious with them. O…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 03:52 PM
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an intense feeling of deep affection. Defining love exclusively as traditionally male role based expressions you can then get to the point men love while women don't; but it's rather circular and pointless. We could as easily define love as traditionally female role based expression for the reverse. And the deepest of which would be the ultimate sacrifice, so the statement of "women are incapable of the love men can give" would be correct (as it doesn't say women "can't" love just they don't lik…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 03:39 PM
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No you’re the one that has it wrong, the Redpill does not say every man that gets married is a beta. My point is you jumped to the conclusion here about them being Alpha; is evidence of the Redpill theory that women are so hypergamous that they’d rather share the Alpha (aka the taken man) then have a beta all to themselves Because it fits better in RP rather than the more probable likelihood most of those men benefitting from pre selection are Beta by RP terminology. ​ …second, If women attempt …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 02:43 PM
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that women are incapable of the love men can give First you have to define love. To me and a lot of others it is sacrifice, the fact you care about another person so much you will do what it takes to make sure they are safe and happy. love noun ​ an intense feeling of deep affection. Defining love exclusively as traditionally male role based expressions you can then get to the point men love while women don't; but it's rather circular and pointless. We could as easily define love as traditionall…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 12:59 PM
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Yes, the first study is evidence of the Redpill theory that women are so hypergamous that they’d rather share the Alpha (aka the taken man) then have a beta all to themselves. That's not sharing, and RP doesn't consider marriage material men as their definition of Alphas. While some guys in relationships may be more A than BB, most will be BB with A's being a smaller part of the population and less committal in the first place. You have to use words outside their definition and inject own theory…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 12:09 PM
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good I wish every nation was obsessed with guns as we are, a well armed citizenry is the best defense against government tyranny Also looking at America though a not insignificant portion of the population would hold guns in support of government tyranny. So idk if that works out in practicality
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 09:22 AM
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It doesn't always sit between the two. My dad is 5'3 and my mom 5'10. I'm 5'3 but my brother is up at my mom's height.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 09:07 AM
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I disagree with the premise. When and what to grant initial trust to is a different line for each. BPs are not signing over their houses to people they're just met- they do not trust everyone completely out of the gate. The difference is risk/reward/freedom/control calculations and what risk each is willing to accept. Divorce isnt a result from trust by default. Divorce comes after marriage which is after years of dating, those people earned trust in that time. Just it's not something that's foo…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 11:05 AM
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Woman: a man who slept with 100 women? What a stud! This is how men think (about men) , not how women think.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 07:14 PM
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does not benefit a man It benefits plenty of men, without it they'd have 0 women or be sharing them. Marriage was a compromise for a man, the benefit he gets is the kids are definitely his and he can ensure his genetics and legacy continue strong. Yes - and that he has any kids at all. for every man with +1 woman, there is a man with -1 woman. And our gender ratio is near enough 50/50.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 07:08 PM
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If the longer life is filled with more stress and worse health, People with higher stress and worse health generally don't live longer, so this assumption doesn't make sense in the context.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 07:01 PM
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I am jacks complete lack of surprise. Edit; I have some sympathy for non offending pedophiles, but this sort of rationalization is how we get offending pedophiles.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 04:47 PM
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The first printed citation I can find of 'Behind every great man there's a great woman' is from the Texas newspaper The Port Arthur News, from February 1946. This was headed - "Meryll Frost - 'Most courageous athlete of 1945'": "As he received his trophy, the plucky quarterback unfolded the story of how he 'came back'. He said 'They say behind every great man there's a woman. While I'm not a great man, there's a great woman behind me.'" The use of the phrase in that quotation suggests it was wel…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 04:24 PM
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It's typical on reddit for people who claim to be atypical to comment under threads like this. Yeah, I haven't ran the maths but her situation is probably (almost certainly) more common (especially if concentrating in younger cohorts) than short men existing. Typically men are around 5'9 or within 2 standard deviations. Would you disbelieve the existence of shorter or taller men? Should we disallow any comments from anyone claiming to be short, or any discussion on them since they are seemingly …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 09:13 PM
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"just" wanting sex seems too shallow, too mundane Because it is. Like a woman who wants a man only for his money - and such a woman is also shamed. The vast majority of neurotypical men want a partner for more than just sex, and one of the RP things is when a man has 'made it' he gets bored of just sex pretty quickly. If anything, guys have been trying to get away from the whole guys only want one thing meme. Your experience may be the opposite of asexual, aka aromatic.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 08:08 PM
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just a cover up for women to be the victims. The term was made up by men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 03:32 PM
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Wolves do not care for the bleating of sheep Wolves provide for their pups and mate.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 01:03 PM
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TDIL submissiveness and accountability are two separate things, whoda thunk it Submissiveness is deference. They do not hold responsibility to be accountable for. Leadership hold responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 09:45 PM
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When it doesn't go right or too much focus on aspects outside personal improvement then Inceldom, Lack of productivity, externalized hate, internalized hate, depression, insecurity, desocialization, isolation and anxiety.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 09:39 PM
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Systems need to be set up to allow both parents to work and ease the burden of child rearing. Flexible working has started that ball rolling, but there needs to be incentives. Perhaps schools need to be expanded and further subsidised to also act as a day care for non flexible working parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 07:47 PM
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If RP is popular , when does it start working?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 07:40 PM
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So the rampant mental health, alcohol/drug addiction and "deaths of despair" issues that have concurrently exploded with the breakdown of marriage That was the people who have broken up, not todays young women. Perhaps thy saw how unhappy their elders were.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 07:33 PM
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I don't think this is common. Most men and women sit between these two extremes . I nearly had nsa sex once, and even then I'd known him for a while just didn't think there was a relationship there. With my partner I was both attracted and saw a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 12:48 PM
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Mail order brides isn't a new concept, and the stereotype has always been such. This stereotype does not include people meeting organically when travelling or in country, or countries with similar economic status etc. Rather the deliberate act of leveraging bucks to date up.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 11:32 PM
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We're back to not being enough men though, it's a rather depressing cycle.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 05:14 PM
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Touche, though I'm not sure any of that solves women's dating issues. Dick is cheap, even hot dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 05:11 PM
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Men are the gatekeepers of commitment, men choose to share, not women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 05:07 PM
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You can hate something without wanting to kill it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 03:43 PM
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How? Where do all the men come from in this equation?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 03:41 PM
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No, there isn't enough attractive women for every man, nor is there enough attractive men for every woman. People suck at accepting they're average.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 08:59 AM
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People don't follow trends, they make them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 08:19 AM
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More over, I had already provided evidence that the majority of men do want kids based on the article provided . If you cannot stay on task with this conversation, then I consider it over. ... If most men over 40 want kids but only 10% will .. People age however, women suffer more due to the fertility issue after age 45, unlike men It seems men do suffer somewhat with their own fertility issues, and women's fertility being a lock for them too. It is advised men freeze their sperm when they're yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 09:03 PM
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Lying by omission u/nemma88 is still lying u/nemma88 Believing something irrelevant isn't lying. What we do know is the mean age of fatherhood currently is around 31, with around 10% of children born being to men > 40 (Or 90% of children born are to men <=40) , and of those around 3% are to men >45. The average difference in age to the mother is around 2.5 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 08:18 PM
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You stopped @ 14% in your first post, now you're trying to turn it around by expanding to the full comment because you got called out. Because I didn't think the other part was relevant. If you want kids you are going to look for someone who would be mother to kids. I usually expand my comments; I'm just bad at writing them out in full the first time.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 07:56 PM
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Do you not know how to read a study u/nemma88 ? I do, though this isn't a study, its a 2nd hand account of Match data insights (which also isn't a study). I am a data scientist. It wasn't 14% of men over all having kids but actually 14% of men considering viewing the said woman as a potential mother on a first date. Yes, thats what I said too. You were being disingenuous when you mentioned the 14% u/nemma88. Here's the most important quote of the paragraph. see below: That's not disingenuous, If…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 07:46 PM
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And just to state the obvious, this is bad for men, the article is about men attending therapy because most of them that want them will not have kids at this point. Because they won't find a woman that wants them with him young enough to. It absolutely affects men too.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 07:30 PM
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An opinion piece with statistical facts that supports it u/nemma88 Again your comment isn't aging well ​ Edit; But Also It's a priority that others in the dating pool share. In a survey in July 2002 by the online dating service Match.com, 14 percent of 277 men age 40 to 59 said they always size up a woman's potential as a mother on the first date And that question is rather open and I imagine include single fathers rather than just men that still want more kids. (But it doesn't link back so I'm …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 07:26 PM
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A increase observed by one guy in men panicking about never having kids until its too late does not many men want them make. not many guys around that age want them either. This is an opinion piece Edit; But Also It's a priority that others in the dating pool share. In a survey in July 2002 by the online dating service Match.com, 14 percent of 277 men age 40 to 59 said they always size up a woman's potential as a mother on the first date And that question is rather open and I imagine include sin…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 07:16 PM
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Most people that want kids have them by 45 imo, not many guys around that age want them either.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 07:05 PM
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Unless the man The answer is men also age, gain imperfections, gain baggage, have reduced fertility etc. What they have more of is money, which can not be leveraged in the same way it used to.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 05:31 PM
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same intentions to date and get into a LTR in the same spaces Only thing that would promote Man A is if were talking MC+ women or both men want a serious LTR, in which case Man A has the advantage even if he doesn't talk to women. Because I'm struggling to think of who would want to deal with their partners 5 baby mommas and a revolving door of kids with a permanently broke dude for longer than 5 mins. Realistically they wouldn't be looking in the same pools of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 12:23 PM
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RP and BP are explanations for behavior more than behavior themselves, and they cover most situations. I mean you don't confirm BP because you know couples that have been together forever or happily married.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 10:03 AM
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We dated for 8 months, but I just couldn't talk to her, not really talk, so I decided to cut my losses. She was nigh perfect for me in every other way. Don't let perfect be the enemy of good.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 09:53 AM
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Pretty sure Incels (and their King) are currently hated the most and they're neither of those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 10:20 PM
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Especially if you intend on continue to sleep with them yeah. If you're having casual sex there's no reason to be shy. If you want it to turn into a relationship you I don't think you act like any of the above. Though this could be more direct about her wondering if he's still hung up on his ex.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 06:32 PM
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Party games yes, in general no
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 05:56 PM
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Tyres fine, but I think who or if your sleeping with unlocks access level when your sleeping together. She's right that's she's not exactly a stranger and you suggest kinda not kinda friend but idk I treat my friends better than this. Asking if you're still sleeping with baby mama is her vetting imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 04:44 PM
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A lot of people believe a lot of bollocks. He's not that bad, just like most people, the older they get the less relevant they and their takes become and new ideas are scary. The world moves on.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 09:55 AM
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Dead bedroom forums used to be full of stories until it got banned when TRP came in. /deadbedrooms is still there
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 09:51 AM
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I'd call this 50/50, It doesn't need to be regimented.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 09:48 AM
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Fishermen asked fish. They didn't just guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 09:46 AM
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how is one gender more controlling than zero genders? Would you rather monogamy or have sex with men? Or allow your gf to have sex with men? Monogamy is easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 07:57 AM
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but isn’t it inherently less controlling than monogamy? Unless the woman is bisexual, no its more controlling than monogamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 09:20 PM
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Sigmund Freud coined Madonna-Whore complex. He was also completely disparaging about women once writing 'Women oppose change, receive passively, and add nothing of their own' and saw women as inferior to men. His views on women were controversial for his time (mid 20th century).
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 08:23 PM
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I wasted 10 mins of my life, they're all pretty awkward and I think your reading too much into this one guy. This one guy feels too awkward to do so (or even ask properly like everyone else) and it breaks down, she does not reject him. You attribute this to being a Feminist Ally for some reason (for all you know all of them could be) while it's probably his insecurity in himself (and poor dude has us all here judging him). There is no stereotypical gendered behaviours by the others, Mr Manbun (l…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 06:31 PM
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The consequences of sleeping with two dozen men is that they will be alone when they're in their 30s 40s 50s The only single women I know have low N counts. Higher N counts ones have men lined up all the same, just higher n are less picky about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 12:56 PM
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Pre selection studies, in science rather than Red Pill are centered around married men, aka wearing a ring makes a man more attractive etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 08:25 AM
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The boxes men have been forced into are also shit. But they were at least seen as noble, praised and of worth, even if that's of little value to a dead man.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 12:09 AM
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(as if it's something bad or undesirable) You haven't specified really what feminine traits / behaviours you are thinking of, but go ahead and think about them. Detach them from what you find attractive and ask yourself if that would be an good and desirable existence for you to follow.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 12:00 AM
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Since when is 20 sexual partners high The N count studies all put like 10 + as the high bracket
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 11:43 PM
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Married men should not be forced to not have sex with other women when their wives are bored with them. At some point, if half the married men are having sex with other women, some other guy is having sex with your wife, or guys gotta get over the n count thing because its gonna be high from those married men before she meets you. There is not a surplus of women to be able to do this without female promiscuity (At least not withuot war thinning the male population). Humans have a fairly even bir…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 11:34 PM
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The OkCupid study wasn't based solely on looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 11:25 PM
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Air travel doesn't make anyone magically better looking or change their personalities. I don't however, think maxing BB game is a bad thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 11:24 PM
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If you can't compete as equals, giving yourself an advantage is smart.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 11:18 PM
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All British women between the ages of 19 and 50 were conscripted for wartime work during WW2. They worked as mechanics, engineers, steel workers etc etc. My hometown has https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_of_Steel to commemorate (there's also a men of steel don't worry).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 11:06 PM
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The point is this women didn't post it. A bot used others pictures, which is incredibly common these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 10:49 PM
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It's been like this since the inception of the internet. The only difference now is sometimes women clap back with the internet not being male dominated in all spaces. Go back 10 years on Reddit and it's the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 10:37 PM
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Few (if anyone) needs to get married nowadays. We are because we want to. We could write up wills, do the paperwork for everything separately but why would we when we can declare our intentions publicly with a party, do it in one universally recognized document with well trodden framework for separation we agree with? If you're going to do all the marriage benefit paperwork without the marriage, it makes more sense to just get married (skip the party if you want to) ; unless you do not like the …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 07:30 PM
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I think my opinion is Factual in every Aspect You're going to hate it here. also again what have l said that is sexist or misogynistic I already quoted it, and evidently you are confused to why people keep calling you sexist etc for it, I can keep quoting it but I think you are likely to continue to not get it. Cause OP literally proved my point OP observing a situation doesn't prove persons who believe X are mentally unstable. Not unless your burden of proof is an incredibly low bar. Believing …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 02:12 PM
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I was just proving my point by what OP told me Nothing sexist or misogynistic about it Just because you have an opinion someone else agrees with does not make it so that opinion can not be sexist or misogynistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 01:51 PM
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Can you make a case for or against promiscuity? I'll make a case for both; I am for people doing what they want. I don't think people should do things that hurt others, but while all cheating is promiscuity, not all promiscuity is cheating. Edit; You could liken it to the gun debate (though the stakes are much lower with sex) , should a responsible persons freedom be limited because of actions of the irresponsible? I made the same case recently on the same topic with cars - some people suck at d…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 01:48 PM
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Yet somehow am called a sexist/misogynistic its because of this bit; l always say it's the mentally broken women who approve this behavior of sleeping with as many Men as possible
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 01:40 PM
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I believe any behavior that can have negative consequences Do you believe celibacy can have negative consequences?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 01:36 PM
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Plus, while feminism in the past had good intentions, it's now been ruined irreparably. And the end result is women on average are less happy than men, If we attribute happiness to feminism, then men should love it as they've never been happier. And why would men turn to RP when they've never been happier?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 10:22 AM
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Which one? Is there any that measure or even note differences between casual sex and sex within a relationship in n count studies?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 06:25 PM
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Yeah I would, as long as I get mine too. Because I'd need to be devoid of any feelings to go for a transactional exchange.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 05:09 PM
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N count can be entirely made up of relationships, it's not so disconnected from the n count discussion. But either way I haven't seen any work around the differences between casual and relationship sex chemically, physically or otherwise, just theories.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 05:05 PM
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Mechanism (biologically) wise I don't think there's much difference between sex and casual sex, or least I've never seen anything to suggest so.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 05:00 PM
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And it’s why anywhere between 10-30% of men have “gotten to that point” and believe their genetic legacy is being passed on when in fact it’s someone else’s. That's pretty generous numbers; 10% iirc come from children not knowing their correct birth parents, I think it was a NHS based study in the UK, and 30% is a bad take away from the study about paternity test results (which is obviously biased data). Most sources that study this actual subject say todays paternity misattribution is closer to…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 03:43 PM
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It’s about paternity and our natural instinct to ensure it as men.. End of story. You actually have to get a woman to get to that point. It seems like a flaw in the system if you fail to procreate because you see sluts everywhere; a genetic trait not likely to survive if it can't be passed on.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 02:54 PM
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Porn actresses and onlyfans content creators too.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 02:48 PM
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redpillers and blackpillers would totally agree men who get more casual sex are more likely to be violent thugs. I think to be consistent with causality on the subject Red and Blackpillers should be arguing here sex makes men violent, to keep with the whole pair bonding theory.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 02:37 PM
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Isn’t some degree of insecurity rational? I agree with this and am happy to go against the waves of insecurity isn't always a bad thing. I would disagree that male insecurity is the only one that's demonized, like women's insecurity usually is as well but that's beside the point. Insecurity I view though, much like preference is that it' about you, no one else. It becomes a problem when externalized. When you shame, judge or punish people based on your insecurities or preferences. You can't atta…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 12:00 PM
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Says countries with WMDs that supposedly believe MAD keeps them safe. Even if they did something doesn't add up.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 11:39 AM
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It's because they genuinely have lower standards. But they're also not the most sought after women. It has been shown that a man's standards don't change much the more attractive a man is. Trying to reconcile these two statements like hmm.... So women's standards rise as they have more to offer while men just have high standards regardless. I don't think thats what PPD generally goes with.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 11:37 AM
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Look at any video where a girl hits a guy so he hits back Half the comments are vilifying the man cause he’s much stronger and wasn’t really hurt You're a bit biased there, there are comments pointing out strength differential, but the vast majority of comments and votes are pro guy. Even the one where she tried to slap him and he pushed her down some stairs was ultimately pro guy, tho a little closer as at some point that power / action differential leapfrogs. The video you linked to comments a…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 11:15 AM
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r, the 80-20 study wasn't debunked a There isn't a 80-20 study, there is a old data extract from OKCUPID where users rated profiles of others. Its fun data insight, wasn't built to be precise, not much of a study and certainly not science.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 11:06 PM
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The opposite is the case I have named all my sources you can check for yourself. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-04-20/couple-with-a-larger-age-gap-happier/9680764 [ But some studies find the relationship satisfaction reported by age-gap couples is higher.] - Links back to https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1111/j.1471-6402.2007.00408.x Which states... Results indicated that woman-older partners were the most satisfied with and committed to their relationships, relative to woman-younger and si…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 05:03 PM
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Read section B again. You misunderstand the facts. I don't misunderstand it, its one I've read many times here, the only odd thing in it is; Partners with larger age gaps are happier together. Because IIRC the only such that suggests so is based on the beginning of the coupling, with other studies saying happiness decreases faster and becomes lower than similarly aged couples. Age gaps have a higher divorce rate, and less relationship satisfaction overall but I dismissed that as its not importan…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 03:46 PM
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The reality is DiCaprio isn't the norm, even among his peers, that's why he's noteworthy to speak of. For LTRs, cross culturally, men prefer women a few years younger than themselves. I think its Buss's research but it can be picked up on the age disparity in sexual relations wiki page. What is the best looking age range for a man or woman doesn't hold that much sway, you are giving it too much power. Like any preferences, its measured against other preferences and variables before finding a mat…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 02:58 PM
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The "problematizing" came from young working women finding it a problem and telling men to stop, they don't want to be hit on while working or by old men; it didn't appear in a vacuum. To give credit, this is imo mostly spurred on by those men. The ones who don't take a hint, the ones who are persistent, the 'women are crazy she wanted me to chase her' guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 02:44 PM
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No one has ever seen anything like that Pretty odd to me looking from the UK. Here at the time we had a (left) leader who was interested in closing things like tax loopholes, but conservatism of the hierarchy is pretty acceptable as long as people feel they're better off than someone else, and that they could move up in the hierarchy. So instead we Brexited.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 12:00 PM
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There's few keeping up with femanism on here so to speak for themselves I typed the question into google and first hit https://www.seisen.com/student-life/seisen-post/features/~board/seisen-post/post/the-importance-of-redefining-masculinity
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 09:17 AM
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​ World of Warcraft (vanilla - WOD) Heroes of Might and Magic 3 Final Fantasy 8 TLOU2 Skyrim Super Smash Melee Valheim RDR2 Dark Souls II Dead or Alive 2
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 11:28 PM
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What's your friends take on 120 days of Sodom?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 09:25 PM
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First of all, falling in love with a women doesn’t make you a simp. In 50 shades agrees to all her terms because she dumped him; this was after he buys her a new laptop, car etc. He is a very anxious character and goes way beyond to try and please her. Part of that is love, but it manifests because he struggles with love because mommy issues, and struggles with sex because he was sexually abused.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 08:21 PM
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Is it the same with 50 shades of grey for women no? Have you read 50 shades? The whole thing is the dude takes her on a helicopter ride for a date, buys her a new phone, laptop and car, [Edit; buys the company she works for.... forgot that lmao ]she doesn't like what he's offering and his weird bedroom stuff [which is primarily him pleasuring her ] so dumps him, he falls into depression without her, begs for her back and does things her way, at her pace on her terms when she wants. She has all t…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 08:01 PM
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That argument was insane you basically saying that ur culture dosent reflects the reality of what we are I'm saying a small selection of popular romance novels are not the length and breadth in depictions of cultural reality, no. Why would they be? There's other romance novels, other stories, other media and... reality. The reality of what we are is we are people who go to work, eat food, fuck, shit post and sleep. The reality is assortive mating. The reality is not a movie. We have a word for w…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 04:56 PM
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…Are you being purposely obtuse? It proves that women desire a rich, alpha Chad, but naively fantasize about that Chad committing only to them. (Which won’t happen realistically, but that doesn’t stop women from wanting it) Yeah in stories. Like guys watching chadlette hot woman in porn with a masculine sexuality, most people are fine distinguishing fantasy from reality. These books also proves women like simps, no? You can't just separate parts out and ignore other aspects.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 12:27 PM
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This is BP popular media you are using to make a point, but the idea women like apex men, and men like apex women (because a hot woman is better than them...) isn't the whole story. I don't really like bad boys as a generalized term, least I wouldn't call Christian Grey a bad boy aside from male competition jealousy.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 12:17 PM
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proves The Red Pill 50 shades of Gray: No explanation needed. So being the only one I've actually read I'll focus here. You can pick and choose in these stories which parts you focus on. Like which part of The Red Pill advises men to simp hard and defer to everything the woman wants because you can't live without her? Based on the TV adaptation of Jane Eyre, I'd guess 'The man is a simp for her' is part of all of these stories.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 12:11 PM
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there is a much different societal viewpoint on these two things when there shouldnt be Why? Society doesn't discourage driving pretty harshly. We recognize there are cost / benefit levels and advise accordingly; Sex isn't on the level of cocaine.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 12:06 PM
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u see the difference. Between cocaine and sex? The risks and consequences are relatively minor. You may as well tell society to stop driving their cars because they might die in a crash and the fumes give you lung cancer. The risk for reward has never been lower with medicine etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 11:42 AM
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grasp that sex has long term health and emotional consequences Say they believe it does, then what? Does it outweigh the good times sex brings? Trying to stop young people having sex is like trying to hold back a wave with your hands. We always have had, and always will have sex. When Syphilis, Leprosy or HIV didn't stop us, I don't think PPD stands much of a chance. Not everyone's concern is risk aversion for living the longest life they can.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 10:40 AM
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Why is purity culture and wanting to be pure considered to be such a negative thing in society ​ but don't shame \<sup>-</sup> Thats why. Purity culture is carried on the back of shaming others.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 10:37 AM
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​ The point is that it's entirely mathematically feasible that a lot of women are primarily dating and sleeping with a small proportion of men that are highly desirable. It is mathematically possible, the median is different indicating this skew exists, its not that pronounced; or least not to the extent its often argued to be. The main difference is top and bottom 10% of men, rest are pretty evenly distributed.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 10:25 AM
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Men as a group do exhibit height preference, its generally wider and thus less restrictive than women's. Regardless, unless this woman has a height preference they (aggregated data) and she (an individual data point) are different entities and should not be conflated.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 10:18 AM
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Although polygyny is virtually nonexistent in the west, polygyny is not the only way that women can end up "sharing" the most desirable men Yeah it is, or you wouldn't have to put it in quotation marks to notate you don't even believe it is really sharing. In which case we can argue without this ill-suited word entirely, and I don't know why its gendered when in all the examples men are "sharing" women anyway. It came from the RP idea women are happy to share when men are not. The reality doesn'…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 10:05 AM
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bluepilled meme that "communication solves everything" I don't think it's a BP meme, its a straw man meme against BP. BP suggest communications frequently > anti BP 'omg they think it solves everything' > hyperbolic meme. The meme isn't actually what they think. BP advise communication as a first port of call, they don't pretend it fixes everything; but it should nearly always be tried (If its not considered too far gone, which BP is also known for telling people to break up / move on). ​ Most p…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 09:47 AM
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What competition? For the most part men 40yo and 20yo women are dating, and want entirely separate groups of dicks. The competition is in your own age bracket, not others.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 11:31 PM
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You think... Personality doesn't affect success? Edit; I know what you meant, but personality absolutely impacts success... As does a multitude of other things, physical looks are just one of many.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 05:55 PM
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Most men in their 20's yes, most men in their 30's + no. If you keep yourself well, then hell half my friends are dating men like 7 or so years younger than them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 10:02 AM
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For example, they are very anti-slut shaming Why would RP or any PUA be pro slut shaming?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 03:39 PM
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Lots of caveats probably apply, but as a high level generalization agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 10:24 PM
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Because they're okay with the men that want them, suggesting it is enough men, and are undeterred by the men who don't. I just want to understand how we’ve culturally arrived at this point where entitlement is so skewed in women favor. Sexual Market value, mostly dictated by more men wanting more sex., and fewer women engaging in casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 10:19 PM
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They don’t make it easy to tell they are fat with creative angles They're not really unashamed in the OP tho, they're hiding it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 10:14 PM
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2 hr. ago Is it safe to say mostly men? .... Question stunned 'em. Perhaps safer to say they don't know any women....
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 01:29 PM
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the concept of their actions being observed and not just having their word blindly accepted Well, its not their actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 01:20 PM
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I don't think women will put a number on it, they care then man has values that align with hers, or at least are in the same ball park. This includes sex. So perhaps its more variable depending on the womans values.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 11:49 PM
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I'm not going to have time to give this a proper reply so just; don't mistake this for when the OPs conclusions are outside the scope and conclusion of studies, which here is often. Especially in social sciences, there is frequently empirical research that contradict each other, likely because there are so many factors that go into why we do what we do.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 10:15 AM
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I guess ops view has been changed because they ghosted the thread and no 3rd party even wants to defend the post. Not often you see a CMV with a V most of PPD agrees on.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 11:16 PM
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Even if we don't want to do it, we will still do it, because if we don't, then who's gonna do it? That's not why people choose to go into these professions. They choose to go into them because they're high paying relative to skill because the money compensates heavy lifting and/or danger.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 02:30 PM
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I think sometimes we have unrealistic expectations on how long a tv show is supposed to stay great. 5 seasons is a stretch for good shows, and most peak around the middle when the initial plot or mystery is resolved in S2/3. Imo its worse when they keep blue balling too long like The Blacklist. For something more recent, I think The Boys is in danger of the same if they down wrap up that guy by the end of S4.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 01:35 PM
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They are not obligated to treat that woman above in a way she likes. RP treats all women that way, regardless of if she's harmed you from fear you may be harmed. Thats the point of AWALT as all guns are loaded.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 10:04 AM
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Vibrator. They're generally smaller, and vibrate.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 02:56 PM
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This might be a terminology issue. Dildos are not Vibrators, and ime most women I know have vibrators, not dildos.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 02:49 PM
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more common than the manosphere believes ​ 'Common' is a ill-defined word. I believe there are more women who do not engage in casual sex than there are cases of misattributed paternity, than there are dead bedrooms, than there are >5 age gap relationships - as examples of things that might be described as common on TRP. So by those measurements, yes we're more common. We're perhaps not common to the RP user base specifically but that's a different question again. You are not going to find someo…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 01:22 PM
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Of course nowadays it's possible not to respect that natural purpose but it's still present and shouldn't be ignored. If there something better why not? If our species never took a step forward we'd still be with the monkeys. Its those of us who went against what we were, to become bipedal, to cook meat, to experiment etc got us to where we are, those that could not adapt died off. We can make a new natural and we've been changing what is natural, changing our biology forever. Because what is na…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 10:16 AM
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You mention having kids and being a dad as something that is opposed to masculine behaviour. Why do you (or others) see it that way? When we're speaking of traditional gender roles, men were not the caretakers of children / homes and generally seen as being bad/incompetent at it. Over the last few decades fathers have fought hard to be seen as an equal parent, shared custody etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 09:46 AM
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Comfort is traits and actions that show stability and security (could also be known as beta traits). So like shit tests for competency, there was the concept of comfort tests too for when there is insecurity in the relationship. As more LTR based may be more talked about in married RP.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 08:19 AM
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Love bombing would come under comfort in RP, which is hardly ever mentioned because it's about relationships rather than sex. I agree I don't think it's a part of RP itself, but more because RP doesn't do LTR advice, they're concentrating on STR. Otherwise love bombing isn't about getting sex (directly), it's about convincing someone to stay with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 11:23 PM
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As long as those expenses were budgeted by me.. I can't magic money out of the air. In practicality what happens ime is the higher earner is happy to proportionally pay extra to get quality more in line with their wage or taste. As your wage goes up disposable income multiplies and money matters less.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 11:14 PM
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Not from what I've seen, there are plenty of posts where OP describes a larger age gap relationship that is neutral or even positive and generally asking for advice Idk what subs you're looking at, dating advice subs are where people go when they have problems in their relationships. You don't need to consult the internet for relationship when its going well. Like /relationships is probably the most known for anti age gap stuff. Its also full of trashcan relationships. Even when age is a require…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 06:48 PM
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Yes, but the question is essentially why are older men worse than men their daughters age in the eyes of fathers.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 06:19 PM
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you'd expect to see a similar quantity of posts on dating subs telling young women not to date guys who drink or gamble with equal ferocity. Dating advice sub content is dictated by what type of relationships are currently sucking, I doubt they're going to advise anyone to continue dating addicts... And people know addiction is a issue. Idk its a different level to be all like 'Maybe his raging gambling addiction won't be an issue' or whatever - not many people need to be told that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 06:04 PM
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Because they have a protective instinct. That's kind of beating around the point. What are they protecting from in this instance?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 05:38 PM
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There is a thought that men must stifle tears and emotions. The post suggests there are cultural elements too. But really crying is just one way of dealing with emotions. If men stifle their emotions is really a different CMV than women cry more. Just a surface level view of those could be said those expressing X emotion less must be stifling it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 10:43 AM
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No one has yet disagreed with the title and they probably won't.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 10:41 AM
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Any evidence of this? https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2014/11/14/chapter-2-the-demographics-of-remarriage/ Men remarry more often, and faster post divorce. https://www.vox.com/xpress/2014/12/9/7332691/men-remarry-younger-women (Originally from Pew again) - Men remarrying are trading up. & Of course.... the stereotype of trading up is about men. Not women. But perhaps the best evidence is yourself, if you had to pick between two women, would you choose the better one or the worse one?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 11:47 PM
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Are women really this socially inept that the only way they can clearly communicate that they are interested in a guy is sex That is a unfair assessment on PPD; where RP states sex is the primary way women communicate they are interested & what men should focus on.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 08:48 AM
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Ever since Eve defied God's order to not eat the forbidden fruit in the Garden of Eden, women for lack of better word have been cursed with not taking full accountability for their actions. Genesis 3: 13That one act of defiance and selfishness started a chain reaction why women today embody that trait of lack of accountability Adam also ate the fruit. But no one ever mentions that Ironic eh? And that's the story of why humans wear clothes (+ other things). ​ our rational thinking and immune to h…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 09:42 AM
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Just to separate historical trends, male suicide rates have been decreasing in the UK for 40 years. They're higher than women's, but that has always been true.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 08:24 AM
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Fuck that, my time is worth too much to be spending it with people I don't like.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 08:29 PM
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How I see hypergamy: When humans practice monogamy they choose the best they can get. Including men. Both may also branch swing/trade up if they can. I see it as a feature of the sexual strategy employed, not a feminine trait. 'Dating up' is not well defined. In much historical literature women 'Dated up' by choosing men with more resources etc. Men dated up by marrying younger women, though that wasn't and isn't considered 'Dating up' by RP because ??? . I'm unconvinced women do not have a pref…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 01:53 PM
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The height of choosiness: Mutual mate choice for stature results in suboptimal pair formation for both sexes (2013)https://www.researchgate.net/publication/236670565_The_height_of_choosiness_Mutual_mate_choice_for_stature_results_in_suboptimal_pair_formation_for_both_sexes First, we examined the likelihood that an individual said ‘Yes ’to a speed-dater who fell within the reported preferred height range of that individual For women, these same values were 32.2% for a preferred individual versus …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 10:48 AM
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The only thing that can offset poor height is a good credit score There's nothing stating the ONLY thing that can offset poor height is a good credit score. There are studies that say when height and credit score are measured there is a offset.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 10:11 AM
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I agree with Hypergamy in that a woman will choose the best guy when engaging in monogamy. Disagree on what RP suggests as the defacto best guy (and the best guy is somewhat subjective to the woman) , also disagree with a lot of the Evo psych in that area. I also believe men will choose the best woman when engaging in monogamy meaning I believe it's a feature of monogamy not of being a woman. Likewise I believe men branch swing as much as, if not more than women. Dread is manipulation to trigger…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 12:56 PM
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Everyone's (asside from leadership types)happier when they don't have to take the lead. Most people,men and women are not leaders.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 07:26 AM
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They're not in random order, they're in order of the three points in my original comment. Higher rate of divorce, less satisfaction, do not live as long. I explained where it came from and the authors of the research. I have at least provided something. You have provided nothing. Feel free to post your own sources.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 11:09 AM
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It's true, per actual stats, not random "some dude/gal/xim wrote" articles. They all articles from actual studies and mention them, they just contain more detail as we can't see the full papers without payment. The first is inaccessible but came from Emory University in Atlanta, Andrew Francis and Hugo Mialon age gap study search will bring up a bunch of articles from it's work. Its also corroborated by another inaccessible study published in Journal of Marriage and Family New York University, P…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 09:11 AM
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Because stats show such marriages are quite stable. I don't think that's true. It carries an increased risk of divorce - https://www.purposedrivenlawyers.com/age-gap-and-marriage/ It's associated with lower relationship satisfaction and increased risk of depression - https://psychcentral.com/relationships/age-difference-in-relationships Women in age gap relationships die younger than their peers, its like being a smoker - https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3000022/
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 10:35 PM
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Gross There's always the option to break up, or if you're really that good, to open the relationship. If you're gonna cheat then own it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 10:12 PM
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This is the harsh truth of reality that women gotta face Women know, they're slapped around the face with it most of their lives weird social media addictions, eating disorders, plastic surgery, botox, skin care, dysmorphia - all as evidence. Men love telling women at every opportunity what they're attracted to, even when no one asked. They throw temper tantrums at breast reduction to vaguely realistic level in video games and think the sky is falling because a character is only pretty and homel…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 06:36 PM
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I'd argue permanent breasts had a purpose in paternity fraud...(if you have permanent breasts it's harder to know when you got pregnant). They are not sexual organs usually, it seems to me that would suggest some predisposition for male sexual focus on already pregnant females as human men are undoubtedly fascinated by them. They're also generally larger than lactating primates. This is of course also ignoring that breasts do change in humans when preparing to lactate and studies show men have b…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 03:58 PM
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I'll go with breast size and firmness as its the best fit, height is about genetic fitness and has been sexually selected, and there's a preference trend. The same can be said for breasts in all categories. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1090513816302847 Therefore, cross-culturally, males are hypothesized to prefer breast morphology that indicates both high potential and residual fertility. To test this, we performed a survey on men's preferences for breast morphology in …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 02:08 PM
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How old are you? Its normally referred to as a midlife crisis. If it makes you feel better you are battling against what could be in your mind, your mind is probably a lot more generous than reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 02:02 PM
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You made a pretty general statement and I responded to it. Of course most women in relationships are going to report negative experiences with older men. Because that's almost exclusively who they're dating. If what you actually meant by "older men" was men who are 20-30 years older. Then that would have helped clarify your point a bit better. The example given by the op is 5 years and certainly most women are not dating men 5 years + older.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 01:29 PM
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Functionally it doesn't matter? If you are looking for someone who will sacrifice their own strategy, security and interests completely you will be looking down in SMV/RMV (as a distinction perhaps from some or all RPW). That's the fair exchange. Closest distinction is RPW, who do not believe all the same things RP do, are generally monogamy minded and expect men to be leaders, competent and successful in that role, family orientated, successful providers and demand monogamy in exchange for chec…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 09:30 AM
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Numerous studies have consistently shown that most women in general prefer and date "older" men universally across the board. Relationship patterns in dating culture are influenced by women's preferences not men's. Cross culturally this holds between 2-4 years which is not what people mean when they say age gap here (or many places even on reddit). Analysing the results further, cross culturally, the average age females prefer to marry is 25.4 years old, and they prefer a mate 3.4 years older th…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 08:46 AM
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Lets run with women are creatures of feeling, if they're monogamous (because not all are and they're generally fine in open relationships) and not feeling jealousy they don't care enough about the individual to have those feelings so why would you want that partner anyway? Alternative is they do feel jealousy and while some can try not to act out on that resentment build up, feelings of inadequacy, insecurity etc are inevitable and slowly take its toll. Alternatively they teach themselves not to…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 08:19 AM
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People always banged, even things like the syphilis epidemic hardly slowed 'em down. It was not unheard of for kids to be passed off as siblings or for less fortunate men to marry women already pregnant with another mans child. Average age of marriage was about 25 for a English woman in 1800.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 10:09 PM
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Then what's the point of being with one? A man staying faithful because you're his only option isn't really him being faithful.... One of my exes struggled in dating. His two busses just pulled in at the same time, he chose both, obviously left with neither but I'd be weary of that strategy too.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 01:10 PM
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ing 'wanted by the object of their desire' is not sufficient because being pedestalized and worshipped also fits that description I would argue they are a part of rapekink. To the point a man loses his mind, breaking a taboo sexual convention. The problem with forced activity is while it's existing in the imagination its only wanted forced activity. It can also be quite diverse in circumstance; an initial objection, full objection, focussed on pleasuring the man or the woman etc, probably contai…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 10:50 AM
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lack of the deeper, meta look into sexuality and the meaning behind stuff like prevalence of rapekink among women It has been discussed on PPD historically, not sure it needs to be deeper. Women want to be wanted by the object of their desire, its a oxymoron in that as a fantasy it gives women the ultimate sexual power.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 08:30 AM
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60th percentile wages, covering 18 years of and I'll consider it. Because that's what I have without them shrug.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 08:26 PM
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Comfy
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 05:05 PM
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And why is it not possible for the young person to be incredibly mature? There's a sliding scale somewhere, a 20YO can be mature against their peers, but that will likely translate to a immature 30YO. Because ultimately maturity is the product of time and experience. I wouldn't go back and date 20YO me, even if I was relatively chill theres still that YA drama X_x, a lot of shit just stops mattering when you get older.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 03:11 PM
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Men don’t show loyalty via sexual exclusivity. Men show loyalty by protecting and providing for their women. In an agreed exclusive relationship loyalty means sexual exclusivity. If they can not manage that, they are not loyal. Monogamy is as much a male mating strategy, it was offered by men to secure offspring and is mutually beneficial.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 02:54 PM
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Did hey have joint ownership? If you get married everything is joint. To get married is a choice entered into freely, here it requires declaration, signings etc. I agree with OP, RP men want their cake and eat it too. If women invest in, support and love younger men, while they themselves are young, roll the dice and miss out on everything she could have for it they can't also complain on the off chance that investment balloons (because most do not) and they are compensated when he decides to le…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 02:26 PM
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There were also some high quality posts. I remember a red pill leaning one that is among the top posts of all time tossing loads of evidence at bluepillers who denied some of the assertions from RP. RP gave way on some and BP gave way on some. For example things like branch swinging being a female strategy (with men remarry faster and more often post divorce) or divorce for a payday (Women are on average worse off financially post divorce, really was pushed based on apex) doesn't hold up against…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 10:18 AM
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I remember things like 'should women have the right to vote' still existed in topic rotations, like at the level n count is now. It's not part of RP anymore really, but back then there was a lot of threads on TRP sub, and endorsed contributors views on it making it a hot topic (and a handful of regular RP users with the view). Consent was a hot topic in general, Red Pill rallied against affirmative consent at the time, though that debate seems dead. ​ There were more threads on LMR, Dread, AWALT…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 10:56 PM
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If sex is something to be taken from or given by women (which it is still phrased as such frequently ) then regardless of anything else the guy has gained and is responsible for it. Imo it really lies with the root ideas around sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 10:17 PM
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In PUA women were suppose to be easiest when they're approaching the wall as they're desperate to find a man to settle down with. It's probable in todays society women are not desperate to find a man to settle down with at any point, rendering it all moot.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 08:55 AM
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Lots of logical arguments so I'll just diverge and go for sexual fidelity is paramount for securing male paternal investment, and this roams close enough with the scope of porn use these days to primal warnings of sexual infidelity. The age old stereotype of men being in the doghouse for gawping at another woman didn't come about in a vacuum. Women don't want their men being less lustful to them. In many situations a woman's libido also depends on male lust. Personally I wasn't much bothered out…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 05:03 PM
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Yeah because men who sleep around have greater perceived value. No men want to end up with the village bicycle, we also pit the one who end up with them. What's that got to do with the price of fish? ​ IMO if you're fat and haven't done anything about it then you're complaints about not getting a date have no credibility can we have every woman on PPD sign it so we could stop bringing up body count? Its not women complaining their body count is a hinderance on PPD. Context!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 11:32 AM
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The notion that someone should accept them as they are with no effort for self improvement is why I say that women expect men to look past it. It reads as very entitled to me. Why? Plenty of people are low effort in their lives (especially when it comes to food) , they're just looking for other low effort people. Self improvement is great if you want to climb that ladder, not everyone does.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 11:24 AM
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can we have every woman on PPD sign it so we could stop bringing up body count? Its not women complaining their body count is a hinderance on PPD. Its men complaining others body count is a hinderance to their preferences or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 11:11 AM
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of "i'm plus size so if you have a problem with that screw off" far exceed the ones that say "I'm a bigger girl but actively working to live a healthier lifestyle" I don't think this really ties in with what your point was. Isn't this a good thing? They're not expecting anyone to look past it nor are they concealing the truth. They're saying if you don't like it then don't bother, saving everyone time. A woman that is content being fat isn't a personal insult to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 11:08 AM
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They interview them?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 11:18 PM
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Based on a study that did sampling like 15-20 years ago? Sampling 20 - 30 years ago is really the only way to get lifetime partners as younger folk are still experiencing it. That makes no sense. We can infer its not that different from current studies. We know most men are currently sex havers, we know many of those relationships will fail or they were ONS and later they'll likely be sex having with someone else, and so on. best I could find is 2015 CDC Ages 20-24 Among men, 32% had had 0-1 par…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 10:52 PM
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I'll C the V in more men have more sexual variety (partners) than their relative counterpart throughout history. So I don't see how sex is worse. The expectations around sex flew through the roof during the sexual revolution.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 05:02 PM
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I’ve seen people ask women what they bring to the table in their relationships which is often met with disagreement. There used to be lots of threads on this on PPD, but it turned out the question wasn't usually asked in good faith. Since it's also featured by content creators looking for their gotchya. So especially with this phrasing it comes across as combatant and disingenous. It's a trap.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 02:31 PM
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what are you trying to say? you think the study is valid or isn't? because it seems to show virgins are the best The same study basically addresses this in its the group with the most religious folk.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 09:38 AM
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I think women see male sexuality as inherently predatory As do men. Especially the manosphere where sex is something to be taken from women and damages her. Its the logical conclusion from historic relations between genders. Things like the push for drunken sex to be frowned on in campuses comes from the deliberate strategy of getting girls drunk for the purpose of lowering inhabitations for sex. While this is history for the younger folk the way of the world was such The Red Pill didn't think W…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 09:23 AM
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If your sole goal is dating, attracting, and having sex with the hottest women regularly, quite literally nothing matters except being at the top of that ladder You can't really C a V that suggests you'll have to ascend to reach the top of a mountain.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 09:17 AM
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Where women go wrong is assuming that their SMV is set by the corresponding SMV of men who will shag them, as opposed to men who will give them a relationship. That's not going wrong, that's partly what SMV is and why its distinguished from RMV. Though a better measurement is quality and quantity of people who want to have sex with you. Sad is right tho RMV will be lower than SMV for women, and the two values closer for men, as a general rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 09:00 AM
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Remarriage makes a big difference iirc, it was mentioned in a few others I was flicking through.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 07:46 PM
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I found it funny. And unlikely, I haven't combed through the statistics but I would think they're missing something. As for the subject, it's one I know more about thus participate in more.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 07:41 PM
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I was looking for a study I'd read before on cultural opinions on age - gap relationships for the hypocrisy thread when I came across a demographics study on those in age gap relationships which was pretty left field. Never fear men of PPD, you don't have to be Leonardo DiCaprio, < average will do! ​ we present robust evidence that men and women who are married to differently aged spouses are negatively selected. Empirical results show lower cognitive ability, lower educational attainment, lower…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 07:35 PM
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I don't know what's worse, if they were actually incapable of noticing the contradiction or if they intentionally ignored it. On FDS I think of it as more of a deliberate thing, they take the manosphere and flip it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 07:17 PM
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They're likely different groups choosing to comment, but there will be in group bias as well. You can see a rise in media of age- gap acceptance over the last few years, and in the last few months specifically there's a movement of women looking to date younger men. There is a paper I'm trying to find about judgement of peers, when the woman is older the age gap has been judged much more harshly. Edit; This isn't the one I was thinking of but suggests the same; https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 05:23 PM
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I don't think this is anywhere near the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 01:27 PM
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Cold approach, the numbers game and getting laid used to be a big part of RP. Frame, LMR, negging and Dread are all prescriptive in RP and existed in earlier PUA. It's distilled tagline is Enjoy the decline and absolutely suggested what men should be doing. The reddit top of all time (after that google guy thing) is HOW TO GET LAID LIKE A WARLORD: 37 Rules of Approaching Model-Tier Girls
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 09:28 AM
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One of the reasons for the fight against traditional gender roles was financial abuse in relationships. Financial power imbalances were recognised as sub optimal long before age was. It's also relevant gender wage gaps in marital couples have dropped because of the type of work women have been taking up. There is ultimately a lot of crossover between wage and age.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 10:40 PM
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But I’m not attracted to men? And women are not attracted to the majority of men approaching them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 03:38 PM
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What is your solution to men apparently wanting a low n-count woman and women apparently having too high standards? Why does it have to be solved here? People can want what they want. If they can't get what they want then they can either live with it alone or change what they want. The issue solves itself one way or another.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 11:46 AM
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jsut date older. and statistically, older men will be richer than men their age, he may not be a billionaire but he will be better off than men her age statiscally For every women dating up for money there's a man dating up for age.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 09:19 AM
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I think of a running track with hurdles. Everyone has their own hurdles to jump, no one is born with a clear track. Some circumstances of birth though can add extra hurdles.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 08:38 PM
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Must feel shitty to be lower in sex chain than Darth Anon the cuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 08:34 PM
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I don't see why it makes more sense to 'fix' women accepting rather than men asking. Purity culture absolutely punished/punishes men, not to the same extent but religious men understand their competition in monogamy is other men, and a promiscuous man is a threat to his family.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 08:21 PM
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Idk about that, a lot of Twitter and tiktok trash talking men, their dicks,their height etc and their audience are all young women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 04:54 PM
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Women generally prefer men around their own age, though more recently more women have been open and are dating younger guys. In my experience having been a younger women interested in older guys, older guys worth their salt don't want to date younger women, it was a wasteland of losers to the point I approached and took rejections to find my guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 04:50 PM
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In general, they're less attractive because they're older, as are men. No one cheats time.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 04:39 PM
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They're not warning young women about men in general. It's all women, young and old, warning young women about older men who target younger women, because there's an over representation of men in that group who target to take advantage of the situation. It's no different than a divorced man warning other guys about the potential disadvantages of marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 04:32 PM
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It's common for younger women to complain about young men and see older men in a better light. I don't necessarily mean grandfathers but men who are at least 5-15 years older than them. In the west the average age gap is 2.5 years. Common is a vague word though, its common enough in around 15% of marriages in the USA (as of 2017) where the guy is 5-15 years older, this doesn't however split by the age of the parties at marriage, and age gaps are more common the older the youngest party is. All t…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 12:15 PM
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Why should any sane man take a woman who behaves in a way that is unfair to men seriously unless he doesnt have better options or isnt very smart? The definition of sanity isn't prescribing to u/Ok-Cupcake-2854 's ideas of fairness. You have established you think it's unfair. Not everyone thinks like you. Sure, maybe they're just not smart, in which case they're perhaps diving in their league so what's the problem? Some men do not care, for some men getting sex is easier than it is for the avera…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 11:35 AM
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