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Red Pill Theorynewguyacct/r/TheRedPill29/03/14 05:06 PM
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Men and women are different. Don't go into a subreddit which has that fundamental belief/axiom/etc in all of its theories and then pretend they aren't. It's disrespectful. It's also a male forum for men to discuss with each other. The 'troll' comments you received was just anger out of you missing this fundamental belief. Society constantly tries to be ignorant of the fact that men and women are different BUT redpill isn't.
/r/TheRedPill03/06/14 09:09 PM
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Why would he be friends with her then?
/r/RedPillWomen21/05/14 12:39 PM
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Successful women just have more options, especially as they get older. And educated women who never marry have better longevity and health than any other group. You are taking a correlation (which I agree with you) which has many confounding variables, and using it as if it's a causation. Common sense should tell you it's probably not the education itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/14 12:38 PM
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The end result is the same, less educated women are being left out in the cold in the marriage market. No, this is an entirely different result.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/14 04:09 AM
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It doesn't matter if it is necessary or not, if it's based in biology. Is it 'necessary' for me to like boobs? Is it 'necessary' for me to pursue sex? Is it 'necessary' for any specific thing to be what it is? That's life. Use some intelligence to understand it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/14 02:47 AM
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This is one of the dumbest statements in this thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/14 02:45 AM
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Please improve your comprehension skills. He is giving you a better answer than what you want. It's not a "yes/no" question as men and women are different.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/14 02:41 AM
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The reason jokes and sketches tend to be funny is that they hold some truth to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/14 02:38 AM
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Looks to me like they both want casual sex, what's so different about that? I want casual sex. But I also want a women who doesn't get fucked by a lot of guys. That is there regardless of what the woman wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/14 02:35 AM
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From looking at income data, the authors were able to show that successful men and women preferentially marry each other rather than randomly choosing from the available pool or choosing lesser educated and non-professionals. For the same reason that I stated. The pool of available mates near them happen to have the same level to education. They don't specifically prefer or want the education.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/14 02:21 AM
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Guys do not get creeped out over this. Guys would prefer this arrangement, if it included sex as well.
/r/RedPillWomen20/05/14 10:39 PM
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Or subconsciously wanting sex. It may not be for an LTR arrangement. Her personality might not be compatible, but she is physically attractive.
/r/RedPillWomen20/05/14 10:39 PM
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This is taking a correlation and turning it into a causation. If 100% of women are in college, the number of women who are married with college degrees would be 100%. Does that mean that is what is wanted? That just happens to be where women are found.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/14 10:34 PM
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Doing that to a guy in an LTR will make him see it as a big sign of disrespect. The relationship won't get better - it will get worse (unlike with women). If it's not an LTR, he will not care.
/r/RedPillWomen20/05/14 06:45 PM
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I thought the red pill belief was that men are happy when they have an obedient woman by their side, what you call a first mate to your captain. Why would they care about being needed by other people around them? That's sounds more like a feminine trait to me. That is less of a red pill belief and more of a general belief. Men want to be needed. Men want to be looked up to. Men want respect. It is definitely not a feminine trait.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/14 02:54 PM
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Pretty much this.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/14 02:45 PM
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So you want to be ignorant of what the majority of people want? You would rather live in a fantasy thinking everything is equally as good as everything else? That makes no sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/14 02:44 PM
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Honestly, it is overstated in RP theory. Everyone seems to think that it is impossible to find a man past 25 or whatever over there. The thing is most of you don't realize that it's just not true. The other thing is that, not all men are looking to have this family. Not all men are looking to just fuck everything under the sun. Unfortunately, none of you will realize that it is not so black and white as you want it to be. I think you don't know how much men actually want these things. But yes, i…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/14 02:42 PM
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I think in general the type of men who don't care for this type of woman, are also the type of men this type of woman would not care for. All men want respect, but these women would have a much harder time giving respect if the man is not in a better position than the woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/14 02:40 PM
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So what should they do? Stop listening to feminism on what they should do and value in their life? They can't have everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/14 02:39 PM
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You are a beta orbiting girl. Never apply this to a girl. Please. What would you tell a guy in your situation? Take that advice. Terrible advice.
/r/RedPillWomen20/05/14 02:30 PM
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A female version of a "beta" is closer to an ideal women. You want to be that. However, I would not obsess over one random guy. I also don't understand why he keeps on hanging out with me if he isn't attracted to me. It doesn't make sense. Offer him sex and you will see.
/r/RedPillWomen20/05/14 02:30 PM
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Why should you, or anyone else just accept a relationship as "good enough"? The day you stop progressing, is the day you stop living and start simply waiting for death. The alternative can very well be, for many guys, no relationship. If you're a guy with low SMV, you have little power to influence the girl on what you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/14 01:44 PM
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One, it strikes fear into the guy in a happy marriage by telling him his wife will dump him as soon as she meets an arrogant and aggressive man who lifts. The guy doesn't have to fit this. He just has to be a better man.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/14 01:40 PM
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You can be attractive physically, but have a terrible personality. That is a girl who won't be LTR material. There is a golden ratio - for every 1 effort put in by a woman, the man should be putting in 2/3. Now if I'm barely putting in effort and still doing more than you, then there's a fucking problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/14 12:28 PM
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But as a woman, I know that if I have to work super hard to get his attention. He's not that in to me. Next. "Beta" men should recognize that. There is nothing attractive about someone you don't find attractive trying to win you over with gifts. You end up feeling bad for them. And most women end up using them by default. It's not just about buying gifts. It's about following. Putting in the effort (and more effort) than the other party. It's constantly thinking about them and doing what they wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/14 12:23 PM
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I don't care if this 1 outlier is attracted to that homeless guy. I care what the majority of women are attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/14 04:00 AM
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Fuck, it's triggerception.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/14 02:54 AM
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Simply, there are 2 parts to TRP - the wisdom and the culture. TRP can be used for self-improvement. By taking RP knowledge of what works, listening to what others have done, and what others tell you that you should do, all in relation to what you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/14 02:49 AM
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Trigger Warning Please don't ever use this term again.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/14 02:37 AM
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This nice little BS-filled paragraph. How much of it is relevant? How much of it is correct? How much do these things weight against each other? genuinely liking her and not just her vag you get super confident and thus super attractive because you are sure that what you offer is actually honest, humane offer, that what you offer is actually worth it Like these. Do absolutely nothing. Who the fuck cares what the guy thinks. It is how he acts that matters. It's how he acts that makes you believe …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/14 02:19 AM
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Really that's all it takes? So if I go out and find an ugly homeless guy who fits that criteria, women will swoon over him?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/14 02:15 AM
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When you say "attractive", are you referring to specifically physical or not? You keep switching the context.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/14 02:13 AM
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However showering me with gifts and compliments and worshiping the ground I walk on for no reason than you think I'm cute isn't respect. It's blind / misguided deference. That is in fact a higher level of respect. As a guy, I wish that happened to me. I wish girls were more naturally inclined to do these things (to act more similar to beta behaviour). It is entirely endearing to any guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/14 02:12 AM
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But look at the language used to describe people who aren't alpha on TRP. The vast majority of people on RP seem to look down on them, beta-orbiters and other such terms. There definitely is a narrative that they are superior than those betas/BP. If it was for the sake of knowing, wouldn't the main target of the malice be on those alphas? Much like the hatred towards the 1% that we see? This is the TRP culture and this is what men feel when they understand the reality of the situation. What man …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/14 02:03 AM
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Uh, it's not that it's a societal double standard. It's what men find attractive which women typically don't care about. I don't care if society tells me to like girls who sleep around or girls with no tits or girls who care about their career more than me. Fuck what society thinks.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/14 01:55 AM
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RP has no target audience (however most of the focus is on the male perspective). RP does not tell you how to live. RP is not a way of life. RP is a body of knowledge. Well shit...That ended up longer than I intended. But yea, if you could explain any of that to me, in a logically consistent manner, that'd be great. Because I honestly don't get it, and it's really hard to respect your community because of those flaws I see. If you don't have the answers, x-post this into TRP maybe one of them wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/14 01:52 AM
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I know you're trolling No.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/14 06:59 PM
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No income for women = fewer things being bought. This is an incorrect thing to say. There has been a decrease in purchasing power since the 1900's (looking at North America specifically) with incomes not matching rising prices. The influx of women into the workplace has caused everyone lose out on what they are able to purchase with their income.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/14 05:44 AM
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This is a perfectly rational point of view - http://i.imgur.com/cOigR33.png. Embrace and love the differences. It's also NOT comparing women to dogs which people seem to be too stupid to comprehend. It's a fucking analogy. I saw the meta post yesterday with people complaining about the direction this sub has taken, and I think this is a big part of why PPD is less popular than TBP or TRP. Most people wouldn't argue with hardcore racists or religious fundamentalists, because it's impossible to ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/14 04:52 AM
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Women are people, not sexual objects. EVERYONE is an object in another person's view. Women, men, everyone and everything. So stop saying this pointless statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/14 04:46 AM
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I made a recommendation for external sources that you could look into.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/14 04:33 AM
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Go look at mensrights or something. TRP is not the place for this.
/r/TheRedPill05/05/14 12:47 AM
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He is mentioning that feminists use the incorrect definitions of words and that many of the statistics quoted are wrong (eg: 1 and 4 girls are raped). If 90% of the 'sexual assault' cases are under mutual intoxication, then 90% are false.
/r/TheRedPill04/05/14 02:59 PM
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How many reports of sexual assault do you think are false?
/r/TheRedPill04/05/14 06:12 AM
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It's only bad because it isn't normal. Once it becomes normal ('desensitized') then it will no longer be as bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/14 05:09 PM
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Too thin has never been a societal trend (in terms of attractiveness to men). It isn't today and it hasn't been any time in the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/14 12:41 AM
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Too thin is as unattractive as too fat. AA/A cup sizes/no ass/bones showing = disgusting
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/14 07:01 PM
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It is probably more relevant to note that more men would cheat than women if there was no chance of getting caught. Indeed. If it was possible to have multiple women committed at the same time, without consequence, what man wouldn't do that? That is not hypergamy though.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/14 04:21 PM
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Your comment said otherwise. You took it as if she equally wanted/needed your respect. Wrong.
/r/askTRP02/05/14 04:19 PM
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But that should also apply to women. It already does with hypergamy. surely the higher incidence of male cheating would show that men are more hypergamous? Those are entirely separate and independent things. The cause of cheating can very much be different between the 2 groups. That is why different people are attracted to different things. When you make blanket statements like this - you lose out on meaning and understanding. You want to understand why men and women are attracted to and value d…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/14 04:11 PM
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And you don't see men dating socially awkward, ugly, homeless women. That is why men have some degree of hypergamy too. But they also don't value some of those traits as much as women do. Do you want the best possible relationship for yourself? Men settle for a good enough relationship all the time. But this doesn't have to be the case. Men should be encouraged to not settle with low value women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/14 07:23 AM
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There is very little evidence on TRP besides blog posts and anecdotal evidence That is why it is a complex social subject and it is quite hard to prove anything with exact evidence/without a doubt. It's no mathematical proof. And my three examples, though not evidence for a whole group of people acting a certain way, are a valid counter to AWALT. If AWALT, then my three examples would not exist. I don't even think your example is proof of them not displaying any of those traits. In addition, my …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/14 07:12 AM
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These are just 3 people. Imagine a whole world populated with billions of women. All women are _____ is an ignorant statement unless you're talking about not possessing a penis. I don't think you understand that people are not random. If you're general enough, you can speak for all of them (or more importantly, a majority). We are also referring to human nature or instinct - meaning that it may or may not be obviously displayed (and can be consciously avoided). I realize, though, that I've spoke…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/14 06:41 AM
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If women truly wanted to leave for these reasons, then no woman would wait until she has found another guy before leaving. She would leave right away. She wouldn't find another guy and then hamster the reasons why she left afterwards. This is especially apparent in non-marriage relationships where women are young and acting out of INSTINCT.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/14 06:36 AM
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Well, actually an older marriage has a higher chance of working out, while young marriages are less stable. Assuming there are no past relationships in either case, then sure. Otherwise no. And do you think a man wants to settle with a woman who is out of her prime? He wants to experience her prime. Most women nowadays waste that part of their life.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/14 06:17 AM
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Just look at who you are dating in the first place. You are dating someone 'better' than you with higher standards in himself than in you. Most women don't date down. That is a form of hypergamy. You don't see women going after socially awkward, ugly, homeless men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/14 06:14 AM
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She probably cares very much on social validation. It's within her instinct. She may not recognize it, but she probably does. You can't take her word on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/14 06:12 AM
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This post explains the concept of hypergamy quite clearly: http://www.np.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/201w35/awaltamalt_whether_youre_brand_new_or_a_veteran/
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/14 06:07 AM
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If few powerful men could decide without any impact on themselves, then yes, it would not have ever happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/14 06:02 AM
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And then your son will see that you treat him more harshly and be resentful of both you and his sister. Not at all. You are conflating it with explicitly telling him what to do which is exactly what I would not be doing. Instilling motivation will make him work harder to succeed in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/14 05:59 AM
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Women don't want respect. They want love.
/r/askTRP02/05/14 03:18 AM
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They would be below average looking. Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/14 01:07 AM
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alpha=cool guy+pseudoscience beta=dork+pseudoscience I don't understand how stuff like this gets upvoted. Where is the pseudoscience? The terms describe patterns of behaviour. There is no 'science' behind that classification.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/14 10:40 PM
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Women should be taught to marry for compatibility and make sure you want to fuck your spouse. And then what you get from this is that most women only want 20% of guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/14 10:33 PM
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Read what I wrote. If he leaves a situation for something better (how ever he defines better) it's hypergamy. Men do this all the time. A man who has a good enough wife will not leave for a better one (eg: with better looks) as equally likely as a woman towards a man. If she is my wife, then I don't care about the looks/money/social status of any other woman. I would also NOT marry a wife who is 'better' than me (or it would at least be a non-factor).
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/14 10:23 PM
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Then men are equally hypergamous. Plenty of men cheat with hotter women. Or leave their situation for a woman who looks better or fits their idea of "femininity." They aren't equally though - sorry. Once she has reached a threshold in looks, it's entirely her personality that matters. And he's quite willing to stay with her for life if she is that great of a woman. Define hypergamy and how men don't fit it but women do. You're hyper rationalizing. Or in TRP vocabulary, hamstering. Look up the de…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/14 10:16 PM
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Then you are teaching your kids incorrectly. You should teach your daughter excellence and nothing less. And create more unhappiness in the world? Fuck no. You're part of the problem. The problem is assuming men and women are not different which is what you're saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/14 10:13 PM
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Hypergamy isn't about money.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/14 10:01 PM
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If your daughter has a high IQ and predilection for quant modeling. Maybe one day Goldman Sachs will want her. What are you teaching your daughter? Pop out babies and cook and clean and don't bother going to college because... What is a woman's worth? I'm not talking about relationships. She has to be able to pay her own rent and pay for her own vacations unless she's marrying some rich man at high school graduation. Here's some advice for you. Stop comparing to the top 1% of men. 99% of people …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/14 09:57 PM
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I can summarize this phenomenon in 1 word: pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/14 05:15 AM
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I don't see why you mentioned that as if that contradicted anything I said. I'm quite sure plenty of men were involved in the conception of feminism. But if 1 guy wanted it while 99 didn't, is that 1 guy representative of the group? No.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/14 05:00 AM
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Men know what they want. It's relative happiness that he is referring to. If men's happiness have decreased only a little compared to women, then that would explain that result. That's only from that paper though. Other sources report a decline in happiness for everyone including men. Also, do you think men wanted feminism? No.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/14 03:18 AM
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Simply, women don't know what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/14 12:16 AM
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There was a study or possibly a TED talk that I saw in the past detailing this exact thing. It was based on self-reported levels of happiness and it has been going down over the years. Similar to what is said with this: http://users.nber.org/~jwolfers/papers/WomensHappiness.pdf
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/14 12:14 AM
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Happiness overall was higher - including for women. People (mainly women) assumed feminism would make people even happier. Except that's not the case. Happiness isn't like inflation. The assumption shouldn't be that it keeps rising at a constant rate.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/14 11:31 PM
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Then what is it? I thought that's exactly what it is.. It explains human nature and the gender differences. It explains what works over what doesn't. TRP for the most part is about men, the male perspective, and male sexual strategy. But it does not tell you what to do. Date Fuck multiple women at once (spin plates), go for an LTR, or be a MGTOW. Do whatever you want to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/14 10:15 PM
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You're just proving my point by saying that discrimination isn't possible No. You keep making these accusations from nothing. Treating differently does not mean one is negative or one is positive. Try to understand that. It also does not mean that an individual is not treated on an individual basis.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/14 09:07 PM
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Too bad. Men and women are different. Stop living in a bullshit fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/14 08:53 PM
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bullshit excuse for discrimination 99% of the time Uh no. Treating men and women differently on a personal and social basis is perfectly okay. There is no discrimination here.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/14 08:51 PM
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I don't understand why you used a 3D shape and a 2D shape. Or why your sense of comprehension is at a high school level.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/14 08:45 PM
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Your train of thought is probably the biggest problem in a country trying to outgrow discrimination and shit. Don't assume there is discrimination. And we should want to go towards a path that recognizes the differences (socially and individually). It's poor logic. Extremely poor logic on the most basic level. We learned this in high school math. State if any of these are correct: No, the logic is more similar to: "If more cubes than circles are black, then maybe there is a correlation to being …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/14 08:40 PM
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after all TRP is mostly amoral, which means that they "only look after their own interests" and will hamster furiously to justify their actions This doesn't make any sense. RP is about an objective, amoral approach to reality and looking at what works (in relation to human nature). We don't have actions already in mind and are trying to justify them. RP isn't a philosophy on how to live.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/14 08:24 PM
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Spin that wheel, hamster. There's no rationalization here for my actions. I've commented on things he has said in the past which I believe have shown his view being different.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/14 02:11 AM
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If I end up with a life partner, I'll probably want her to be promiscuous, because I am promiscuous. Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/14 02:08 AM
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If you do do this, I think you do it out of conscious irony. You consciously want to do what's the opposite. We are also considering this in the context of an LTR. Do you actually want a wife who has slept with many, many guys in the past? That's what you would value? 10 guys - nah that's too little. I want a woman who has been fucked by 100+. It's like wanting a used car that has as much mileage as possible because that must mean it's a better car! And all those other suckers going for the low …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/14 01:36 AM
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Most sane and well adjusted men know that a woman who has had 1-20 sexual partners * from age. 16 and up 30 is totally ok. No. Any guy would say a bigger # is worse than a smaller #. It's not about "ok" or "not ok". It's about what's more valued or less valued. In any case, do you now see why a woman might lie about her number if you profess that all men care about this? Men care about a lot of things. This is just 1 thing. If I were a much more cynical person I would advice any and all women wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/14 01:32 AM
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For sex addicts, which does not include anyone with a penis This claim is as equally unjustified as his. Why do you think gender doesn't play a role in it? I am a man, I agree with her. I think you say a lot of things which you know are wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/14 01:27 AM
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But I would be tempted to actually inflate my number because IRL only a TRP would care. Are you a woman? Please do this and see the results. Even for men who are not RP enlightened. It doesn't matter. Nobody has ever asked me. They don't ask, but they want to know.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/14 01:17 AM
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So you aren't a red pill man then? It's weird. There's something off about the way you write whether you write in the terms of RP or BP Did you even read what he wrote? There, I think I summed up the thread fairly well.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/14 01:12 AM
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have a lot of male friends who don't want sex, it really depends on the person, you can't generalise That means absolutely nothing (for anyone who says this). Given the right circumstances and experiences, they would.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/14 01:03 AM
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gheto chola Lol wtf.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/14 01:00 AM
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Circumcision is completely irrelevant to RP (and thus BP and this subreddit). Anyone who advocates circumcision is a fucking idiot.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/14 12:55 AM
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I don't see any point in lying, I have never been asked about a specific partner count and I am not interested in knowing a partner's number. Just because YOU as a woman don't care doesn't mean a MAN would not. You don't see the point of lying, but you clearly want to hide the information.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/14 12:52 AM
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Face it, in TRP philosophy women loose value the more men they sleep with. There is no TRP philosophy. Women lose value to ALL men. AMALT.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/14 12:51 AM
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I think most guys who identify as TRP want to know an exact number but most guys aren't TRP. In my age group if a partner asked my number I would fall over laughing. Just because they don't ask does NOT mean they don't want to know. Any guy would say to another guy that he would love to know.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/14 12:50 AM
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It's his personal opinion - not reflective of TRP. Race doesn't normally come into play.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/14 12:48 AM
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Are you equally willing to live your life with any prior rapists/murderers/child molesters? I would NOT dedicate my life to a woman who is not 100% honest about it. I would not dedicate my life to a low value woman. It's as simple as that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/14 12:44 AM
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Well I'm assuming having babies happens in a stable marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/14 03:18 PM
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In this case a woman was interested so I gave her advice that was relevant to her. No, that is you projecting interest into her. What is the 'better' thing? There's quite a few things better for a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/14 03:59 AM
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It is my experience and I'm not debating a point/attacking a position for it to become a straw man.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/14 02:55 AM
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Blue pillers will say the same thing, of course. Everyone claims to have biology on their side. I think they attribute it more to culture. And they think culture is a separate identity to that of biology.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/14 02:24 AM
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They have no innate advantages over you, the only difference between men and women when it comes to these pursuits is distribution along the bell curve. Contradictory point right here. And just because we don't fully understand the innate differences does NOT mean they aren't there.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/14 11:50 PM
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Not sure why being a woman would stop you from doing physics. Do it because you want to. No one else can make that decision for you. Do you have a mentor or someone in the field to look up to? There are many women in physics who encourage other women to go into science. This is rampant in western society. Pretending to say "Do it because you want to." and then encouraging one thing and discouraging the other [better] thing. Stop encouraging women to go into STEM or any other career/profession. E…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/14 11:48 PM
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The hot dog analogy is good, but you also have to consider that it's a male forum. It's not about the hot dog. Men can only be honest like this to other male friends. Our current culture is filled with sad political correctness. You can't talk about how men and women are different without offending someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/14 11:35 PM
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Here is what I think when you say having babies too late - http://i.imgur.com/XJML69l.jpg
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/14 11:31 PM
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Stop encouraging her behaviour then.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/14 09:54 PM
-3

An argument could be made that MissPearl's comment is kinda classist, but it's hardly unusual for a reasonably intelligent person to value the same in others (especially potential mates). She basically wants a mate that is higher value than herself. She fails to recognize her own position and what potential mates value in herself. Regardless, her own opinion of herself is not the opinion shared by onlookers.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/14 09:03 PM
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You are one of the few people that I find gives enlightening insight. Thanks man.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/14 08:55 PM
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The difference between your argument and mine is that you're thinking of specific individuals when you present your thoughts (your boss, your wife) and I'm thinking about an entire group of people (women) when I present mine. Believing that all women will lie, be hypergamous, etcetc and acting based upon that belief will result in a completely different set of potential behaviors than believing that a specific individual you know well will or having a positive outlook in general. TRP makes basel…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/14 08:53 PM
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... Because you people are sexists? Or because your sexism allows you be an asshole, so you reinforce it in your own mind. Dumbest thing I've read. Please grow up. I'm not going to reply any further.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/14 04:25 PM
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Yeah, my logic, anecdotal experience, and scientific knowledge tells me that most of the beliefs I see on TRP are relatively void of logic or scientific reason, and are mostly based in sexism. Why the fuck would it be based on sexism? Some people just want to understand how the world works. If another group could explain those differences better, then that group will be followed over RP.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/14 04:12 PM
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Usually, if you can't give any reason for thinking something, it's based in prejudices, biases, and other bullshit. Like most stuff in RP, which is related to a complex social subject, nothing is proven 100%. It is based on anecdotal evidence, observation, logic, and sometimes science with related areas. Well, that's the impression many people get from it, myself included. But no, you're right, it doesn't give off that or any other negative impression, it's all me (and everybody else who perceiv…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/14 04:02 PM
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Men are people; women are people; but men are not women and women are not men. Regardless of that difference (just like there is a difference with children or dogs), you can still talk to them. Stop spewing this bullshit that women aren't people. The ONLY thing women are, are people. No other fucking thing in the world is treated like a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/14 03:59 PM
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Can you not see that it isn't a comparison of women to dogs? It's comparing the relationship. You need some comprehension skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/14 03:48 PM
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What makes you say that women rationalize more often, or "hamster" more often, other than sexism? That is one tenet of RP theory. Recognizing a difference is not sexism. Sorry. You didn't say they're incapable of thought, but that sure is the impression TRP gives off. No, it doesn't do that at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/14 03:46 PM
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Oh yeah, I do see the comparison between women and dogs all the time. How are you this stupid?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/14 03:38 PM
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Can you stop going through old posts? Men and women are different, and one of the ways that is the case is how women rationalize more often. At no point did I say they are incapable of thought. That's retarded.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/14 03:38 PM
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Go for your career or instead try and attract a red pill man and start a family.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/14 03:34 PM
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For every success a man might have accomplished, there are many more failures by other men. Every fulfilled, happy, valued man who worked hard in life is met by an unfulfilled, unhappy, low-valued man who also worked hard. Risks don't always give a return. Let's say you had an advantage at one thing, A, and a disadvantage at another thing, B. If you were to do A, on average, you would be happy. If you were to do B, on average, you would be unhappy. Now there's that small chance with B that you c…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/14 01:02 AM
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It's probably not as bad as -500 lol.. But yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/14 12:46 AM
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I've seen it happen in TRP multiple times. If the person brought valid arguments in, the posts would NOT be deleted.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/14 12:41 AM
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Don't you call blue pill people coming into TRP and telling you you're stupid trolls? Don't say no. It's a rhetorical question. You absolutely DO do that. Then delete their posts. Can you see that I didn't attack a person? I attacked a post which was deliberately misconstruing something.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/14 12:37 AM
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Sarcasm is a weak unintelligent form of humour. Also most of the times I've seen sarcasm in TBP, it is of a strawman or a greatly exaggerated point.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/14 12:33 AM
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I have negative karma for posting in r/thebluepill and pointing out how stupid BP comments are. A few of my comments had like -90. It has nothing to do with trolling. http://www.reddit.com/r/TheBluePill/comments/21w4s6/but_they_totes_dont_hate_women/cgh2vfi http://www.reddit.com/r/TheBluePill/comments/21w4s6/but_they_totes_dont_hate_women/cgh3rfp http://www.reddit.com/r/TheBluePill/comments/21w4s6/but_they_totes_dont_hate_women/cgh443i http://www.reddit.com/r/TheBluePill/comments/21w4s6/but_they…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/14 12:15 AM
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There is no TRP sex life. It can be whatever you want it to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/14 04:18 AM
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I just said it's ironic because you would expect him to look like (insert hot male). Why would you expect that? He didn't mention anything about guys. This is like the chicks without dicks 'double standard' (which isn't an actual double standard). I do agree the guy is more on the extremely-negative/opinionated side. Also, by your logic, a fat guy who likes skinny girls and a skinny girl who likes fat guys can never be cause of ironic hypocrisy. It stands that you would never find this kind of a…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/14 04:07 AM
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Shut the fuck up and eat my pussy, you insolent asshole. Stop with the hate. You can't do whatever you want in life and expect to get anything you want. Lose this attitude. Motivation is a good tool to improve yourself. It's good motivation to want to kill yourself. My 5 year old niece is starving herself because she's already feeling the pressure. At fucking 5 years old. Where is this pressure from? I'd like to know.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/14 12:57 AM
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But for who or for what? I told myself no man would ever want me if I wasn't thin. The idea is reinforced all the fucking time. Good motivation. As long as it is not to an extreme. I actually think 80% of women, if they tried, could easily be attractive to many guys. Bigger boobs may look better to some men, so women run to get implants. To a lot of guys, but modern day implants are not the answer. Innovation is definitely needed in this area. Bigger penises are generally liked by ALL women. You…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/14 12:20 AM
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That is a different kind of shame. Do those women equally get respect? Are they acting out of honour or because someone told them to act that way?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/14 09:06 PM
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It could literally be for any reason. They like her size, her humor, her sexual appetite, her credit score, literally anything... But they aren't all equally likely. That is the thing. And as a guy, I know most of what you listed are probably not it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/14 08:57 PM
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Why don't you do everything yourself and be alone, err independent?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/14 08:40 PM
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I don't know any women who would be with a guy solely for money. I would never be with a guy just because he has money. There are plenty of reasons including living a happy life. Just because you haven't experienced it does not mean you wouldn't want that. How is it our realities are so different? Sure there are gold diggers out there. I'm not disputing that. But to say it's the only factor and that's why fat men are successful is an idiotic claim. Men and women are different. That difference is…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/14 08:32 PM
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I can think of a few fat women I know of with happy husbands because they're either the bread winner, or really funny, or good at sex. I'm pretty sure none of these are the reasons why. Some guys are just into 'curvier'/big women. Some guys have low self-esteem or few options. Some guys just want a girl who tries.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/14 08:25 PM
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"I am totally happy to indulge passive aggressive behaviour and game playing" It's not to indulge it. It's to overcome it for the benefit of both people.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/14 04:34 PM
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Most women are incapable of subscribing to a code and a group that believes in that code? I think you need to read the entire thread more closely if that is what you think the definition is.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/14 08:05 AM
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There are other words to describe that - but she probably didn't do it out of a concept of honour.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/14 02:32 AM
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My other post has most of it summarized.. Some key points could be added.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/14 02:28 AM
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If honor has no one definition They all have the same definition. But the groups/people/principles/etc involved are different. More women than not are unable to meet the definition of having honour. Doing the same actions when they happen to align with your feelings and not doing them otherwise is not honour.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/14 02:24 AM
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It is not based on my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/14 01:01 AM
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One way you can tell is if it's forced on you from an outside source. If that is the case, then it is not honour.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/14 12:55 AM
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There is no one system of honour. And it is not feelings/morals. If you will equally break the system any time over your feelings/morals, then you have no honour. Which women will do more often than men. There's a self-centered aspect to it which is not honourable.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/14 12:47 AM
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Not morals or ethics.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/14 12:20 AM
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Honour also can be attached to not taking advantage of someone. For example if your ex really wants to get back with you it would be dishonorable to give them false hope for your own gain. It would be considered dishonourable to assist others in breaking agreements, such as abetting adultery, although hardly illegal. Your credit score is another way your modern honour has been codified- to this day you can talk about choosing not to honour a debt. This is not honour or a very weak form of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/14 10:34 PM
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Honor is bestowed onto anyone who meets the standards or "code" of ethics espoused in the culture. So for instance... in my family being honest, being true, earning respect and giving respect, and repaying one's debts makes one an honorable person. These are morals or ethics. Not honour.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/14 10:08 PM
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Shame - A man who fails to live up to the code of honor is shamed and loses respect. This is also a key thing to mention and why women haven't really ever subscribed to one. Not only do they not get the respect from the honour system, but they also do not get the shame. Women want neither of these 2 things. No one recognizes a woman as a member capable of following the system, thus no one rewards/punishes women accordingly. It has always been a male thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/14 10:06 PM
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I did laugh a bit... so goodjob.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/14 05:09 PM
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It is subscribing to a code and to a group that recognizes that code, and living life (or an aspect of life) by that code. That code is entirely independent of (but can include) morals, the well-being of yourself and others, etc. It's taking game theory of economics and doing the cooperation role over the selfish one. It involves rewarding those that follow the code with honour and punishing those that don't follow it with dishonour. Honour is NOT doing what others tell you (society) or what fee…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/14 04:58 PM
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I would imagine that sex with a TRPer would be a LOT like very, very angry sex...I have no real basis for this, it's just how imagine it would be. This is your emotional feelings overriding your rational thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/14 04:51 PM
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btw men's sperm degrades with age too. Those sperm also have a harder time reaching the egg. It basically just means there is less of a chance to impregnate.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/14 04:49 PM
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Boring people are boring. Fact of life.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/14 03:05 AM
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First you're off the wrong premise when you're assuming she is a doormat. And if you can't see what someone can do to add to your life, then that's pretty sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/14 02:53 AM
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Who said anything about boring? A woman is there to add to your life. Not to make up your life. If it's boring, it's because YOU'RE boring.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/14 02:47 AM
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I think you are a little naive. But if it helps you feel better, I guess that's okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/14 02:47 AM
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RP isn't a philosophy. It isn't telling you what to like or how you should live life. I can only guess, but I'd bet men would place higher value on earing potential of their partner for sure. Haha. So if men are supposed to be at their peak SMV in their 30s why aren't they dating most of the younger women who supposedly share their SMV range? Why do most people tend to marry someone near their age, especially young couples? Men at 30 have an easier time in getting what they want from women, espe…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/14 02:29 AM
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she won't give a damn if you decide you want to start fucking some younger women on the side This won't happen. It's against their instinct. It's against basically every woman who is in an actual LTR. And you definitely don't want them to reciprocate it. I live with an incredibly alpha woman. These really don't exist. Don't use the terms alpha/beta/etc to describe women. It doesn't make sense. You have good and bad advice in there.
/r/TheRedPill24/04/14 02:04 AM
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Again, what would you describe as an 'ideal woman' besides suceptibility to being taken advantage of? Or is that all a woman needs to be 'ideal'? Just look up the definition of a unicorn or a perfect woman (with femininity, submissiveness, cuteness, follower, etc). The ideal woman would be susceptible to being taken advantage of. No, because they'd see right thru it and dump the guy's ass for wasting their time. It doesn't have to be blatant. It's the subtle, plausibly-deniable disrespect that h…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/14 01:44 AM
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Particularly in women with more masculine personalities who want to prove how fulfilled they are in life. Well fuck them.
/r/TheRedPill24/04/14 01:33 AM
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i thought TRP was dead set against shit testing? RP isn't against human nature. target low self-esteem women. sounds like the most boring-ass hell ever. Not at all. It applies to all women. Even men to a degree, but men should know better. And there are no "RP guys". RP guys can and do demonstrate more beta behaviour. Most probably do. RP != a type of behaviour/being alpha/etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/14 01:06 AM
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oh no doubt, but being a doormat is more than being with an abusive person, it's allowing people in general to walk all over you because you're too afraid to lose whatever you're clinging too, whatever you've replaced your self-worth with. The ideal woman WILL be taken advantage of by an abusive guy. That's no question. That is part of the personality. That is also why you need to judge potential mates harshly (shit testing) before going into an LTR with them. You can't follow someone who can't …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/14 12:41 AM
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In my experience people who take care of themselves, not just celebrities as I can think of plenty of people in my network who fit this description, don't depreciate precipitously at some arbitrary #. It's not an arbitrary number. It's an aggregate number.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/14 12:20 AM
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No woman is 100% a doormat regardless of what you think. You also say "doormat" which if you took an objective outlook on it, it is probably something else (eg: a guy who is abusive is the one with the problem, not you).
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/14 11:43 PM
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what exactly do you think "lol, nice guys" will do? Exactly the same thing. Women don't want nice guys in the same way men don't want bitches.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/14 11:32 PM
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Notice how attraction comes first... Can you stop hamstering? Women respond to many things. They aren't that shallow to respond to looks only.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/14 11:30 PM
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While the male is passive aggressive. It's not actually passive aggressive. These guys actually think being nice and doing all this shit is what women want lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/14 11:26 PM
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source: i used to be a doormat, it's not sexy unless you're a narcissist/sociopath. Are you also a man? Otherwise this = no.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/14 11:25 PM
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a physically attractive, pleasant, mentally sane woman, uncorrupted by feminism, with a very low sexual partner count and no history of short term hook-ups. This isn't a unicorn. The standards aren't high enough. A unicorn is mythical, not obtainable. These are just your standards. Of course you're going to be happy for less. Otherwise, no one would be with anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/14 11:17 PM
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At some point you need to assume facts are true and don't need further support. If I could pull out stats in seconds out of nothing, I'd do that. I'm not wasting hours to back-up 1 point to 1 person which won't help me at all. You look up all the historical accounts of women and children before men. That should be enough evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/14 10:22 PM
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You missed my point. Most of the "betas" TRP describes spend money to make up for physical attraction. No, they do that independent of physical attraction. Instead they do that over MENTAL/PERSONALITY attraction, because they were manipulated to believe that behaviour is attractive to women. That actress Rachel Weisz bought her husband (the 007) guy a Porsche for his birthday. Women give gifts and spend money. Stop dating golddiggers. There's no respect here. Men don't want to be provided for. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/14 10:05 PM
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Id risk my life for someone i loved dearly. And? That means nothing since it's your personal opinion. Even if you were one who would (and one who would do it equally to the husband over the children), it doesn't matter. That doesn't demonstrate that women do it MORE than men. Because historic, objective evidence says the opposite. Also "beta behavior" usually happens out of hope for sex. No. It is just a description of the behaviour. The one with alpha behaviour has just as much want for sex. yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/14 09:50 PM
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It's a logical fallacy to assume that your comment can't be said for anything in this subreddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/14 09:21 PM
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Unconditional love for him is a fantasy world where he always gets what he wants and the wife is nothing more than a reflection of his own desires, with no personality or needs of her own. Nope.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/14 09:13 PM
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How do I refute something you made up from personal experience? This didn't just come from my personal experience though. As soon as you state an opinion, it's worthless. Who the fuck cares what your personal opinion is? You talk in facts (or more specifically, claim of facts) that are either correct or incorrect. Also what is "unconditional love" for you. Define that. It's very subjective. And I just gave 2 rough definitions of unconditional. Do you see men OR women sacrificing their lives (as …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/14 09:12 PM
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I don't debate with personal opinions.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/14 08:19 PM
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Sacrificing your life is one example of being unconditional. If the most common state of men is being beta (and doing stuff for you over his own wants/needs) that is another example. Men demonstrate 'unconditional' love more than women, or a higher degree of love more often than women. It's not a binary thing, but it makes sense to talk about it in this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/14 08:09 PM
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If he speaks general enough, he CAN speak for all men. But only a majority matters. Men are not random.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/14 07:40 PM
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You need to understand that culture isn't instilling these views. These come from instinctive, biological feelings. Culture isn't telling me to like ample breasts/buttocks/etc. Culture isn't telling me to prefer non-sluts over sluts. Culture isn't telling me why I enjoy/pursue sex. That is biology. You can't seem to see that. You are basically saying "fuck men" (which kind of makes sense given your name).
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/14 06:34 PM
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ABALT. APALT/AMALT/AWALT but that doesn't apply to any other random group. At least not by RP theory.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/14 06:31 PM
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Marriage with a low value woman is for betas. Marriage in today's society is for betas. Marriage when it doesn't make sense is for betas. Marriage itself is not. Plus, society forces men to act more beta as it is necessary for sustainability.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/14 06:23 PM
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Your typical Calvin Klein male underwear model (top 10% on the male physical attractiveness scale)
/r/TheRedPill22/04/14 06:21 PM
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Not to say you would need to be in the top 20% of the world/nation etc. Just the top 20% of your locale. No, you definitely need to be top 20% in the world. Women subconsciously compare you to celebrities and other figures around the world. Do you think if the locale was all ugly, homeless people that they would equally get the same attention? No.
/r/TheRedPill22/04/14 06:20 PM
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Society is slowly changing, but there's still close-minded idiots who were brainwashed early (like you). along with all of the luxuries that came with that time period I didn't say anything about this.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/14 01:01 PM
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The type of advocacy. The beliefs behind it, who it would affect, etc. Most of these don't act as an institutionalized religion like feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/14 06:01 AM
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There's probably never going to be a 50/50 balance everywhere and that's okay, Then why is this shit still mentioned for everything. Now how about answering how we would have gotten here without feminism. Any could have done that - maybe even a group that encouraged women to be caretakers and men to be breadwinners? It doesn't matter for the current day. The history of feminism is no reason for it to exist now.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/14 05:54 AM
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Well then it's a good thing the vast majority of feminists don't say things like that. Sure they do. That's why they don't want men to judge them for being a slut. They don't want media to showcase women sexually. They don't want environments which are competitive/non-women friendly. They don't care that men have preferences/views on women that are different than their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/14 05:51 AM
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Why do you have a hard time answering his question? Would the number of women propositioned for sex who said "yes" be zero, a few, or many? Would the number be less than, roughly equal to, or greater than the number of men who said "yes"? Very simple and should give you insight to if men have a harder time getting laid than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/14 05:46 AM
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So you think proving feminism wrong is really what's best? I guess it is safe to assume that you really don't care about equal rights and would rather have male superiority then. Stop spewing this bullshit. Feminism is not about any true equality. The sooner feminism dies out, the better.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/14 05:37 AM
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Feminism isn't the idea that men and women are the same. It's very much the core belief when it advocates for 'equality'. Any time feminism assumes there's discrimination when something is not 50/50 is demonstrating this exact belief.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/14 05:33 AM
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If you can't think for yourself without me putting it into words, I think you might be referring to yourself in terms of your stupidity. Although it's evident in your opinions.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/14 05:25 AM
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So you think when feminism fought for women's suffrage, that was the wrong call? Because we wouldn't have gotten there without feminism. Whenever I refer to feminism, I am talking about feminism now (modern feminism). And that could have been done without feminism. Giving women voting rights could be done without a movement believing incorrectly that men and women are the same. Isn't all education, advocacy, and advertising "artificially tampering" with culture? In a way, yes. However, it's not …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/14 05:22 AM
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I think you might be lacking in comprehension skills. Anything requiring physical ability applies.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/14 05:12 AM
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Also, here's an example (an absurd one) to explain how men and women may want a different 'equal' world. Let's say men wanted to be able to punch anyone equally (it's not true, but just think this). Now do women want to prescribe to this 'equal' world? Fuck no.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/14 04:51 AM
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Physical strength is an obvious gender difference which would make the 'equal' world men want different than the one women want. Now there are mental differences too, but they are less obvious. That is why I didn't use a more relevant example. Because you'd have a hard time understanding it. This is also using the definition of 'equal' as in 'identical' OR equal in outcome (which should never be the case).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/14 12:08 AM
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AMALT/AWALT/APALT but that doesn't apply to any other random group. Eg: Such as feminism where they might actually believe/act differently to each other - but it's all bad still. The very core belief of feminism is the ignorance of gender differences.
/r/TheRedPill20/04/14 10:18 PM
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refer to treating people equally Here's one way which ignores the gender difference. Their personal/gender differences are irrelevant. They are very much relevant. There are differences, but these differences should have no effect on their equal treatment. It entirely has an effect on the treatment of both. Now what treatment are you specifically referring to? By law? By culture? By people? Each of these are different and some should not be considered. And the ones that are considered, should be…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/14 10:10 PM
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95%+ of it is the face in these things. You can pick up sluts any day with a good face.
/r/TheRedPill20/04/14 09:44 PM
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ALL forms of feminism are bad. The very fundamental belief of feminism is the ignorance of gender differences. And because of that they think an 'equal' world is one that is 'equal' in their head (ie: a more feminized one). Which is different than the 'equal' world that men want. Feminism tries to morph culture in a negative way that is not only ignorant of the differences, but also to the benefit of women. The laws of society are one thing, but culture should not be artificially tampered with. …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/14 08:25 PM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_differences_in_human_psychology#Current_research_on_general_intelligence Or use google. Plenty of stuff comes up.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/14 02:21 PM
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Not attacking you. Just expressing a related point.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/14 01:24 AM
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Women that are fit to an extreme (where they lose much needed body fat/curves) are not really attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/14 01:05 AM
6

and shit
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/14 10:31 PM
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Wow, thanks for laying out my step-by-step strategy for getting laid. I really wanted to keep that a secret. Be attractive - it couldn't get any simpler!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/14 10:25 PM
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I accepted this. That women who were good at it were just naturally rare. Now I think it might mostly be a culture thing. No - there is a difference. Culture only increases or decreases that difference. Assuming men and women are the exact same mentally is a fucking retarded thing to do. Anyone that says anything is 100% because of culture is wrong. The top 1% are male because male variance is greater. The bottom 1% are also male. Is culture the sole reason why men take more risks? No. Stop comp…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/14 10:16 PM
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It doesn't matter how wide or narrow it is now because I didn't mention that whatsoever. This is why your comment doesn't make sense. Lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/14 10:10 PM
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I don't think you understand what I'm saying.. Try to read more carefully.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/14 08:46 PM
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Why would I do that? My implication is that ALL of what feminism advocates is that. How about you provide some counterexamples to disprove it?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/14 08:40 PM
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What is "our culture" though? Are you American? Western culture including the US as well as other countries. Because doesn't the information in my original post kind of say the opposite? Does it say the STEM gap is widening or narrowing?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/14 08:32 PM
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I mean, you don't even know what feminism advocates for besides campus rape and gaming. That should be a giant hint that you don't know what feminism is. Most of what feminism advocates is based on misinformation or naive beliefs. Can you list some that aren't one of those 2? Modern feminism that is.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/14 08:12 PM
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It's narrowing as our culture becomes more feminized and girls are positively discriminated towards at the expense of boys.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/14 08:07 PM
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That act of saying "no" and doing what you want is more alpha-related than beta. If a 'bdsm sub' was entirely in control - that can also be considered more alpha. However a true submissive has no control (and lacks the qualities to make a leader).
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/14 05:42 AM
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Thus, manipulate you into having some kind of painful feeling - shame, low confidence, guilt - every time you look at boobs and like them. Then from it on it will be you, by wanting to avoid that feeling, who will convince yourself that you don't really like them after all, and you will find ways to rationalize and hamster it. "I grew up or something." This is how conditioning works. And that is why there would be contradictory feelings felt by the person. I don't think you understand how little…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/14 04:26 PM
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You're obviously not important enough for me to recall what those were.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/14 03:50 AM
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I don't need them to change. That's not where the problem is lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/14 03:48 AM
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In a way, it is your problem. She doesn't need to change.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/14 03:46 AM
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Neither does TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/14 03:38 AM
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She was treating you like a woman - you should feel proud about it. The feelings of a cheating woman is more important than the act of cheating. It's too bad you aren't a woman to understand that. In a way, what you did was the exact same as sleeping with her (in that you ended the relationship), but you got nothing out of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/14 03:36 AM
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use honor as a cover to commit questionable things It can very well be used for that. That is the thing with honour. It's a word that is kept regardless of what it is kept for. It doesn't have to be deemed right by society.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/14 03:28 AM
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creepy You need to stop using this word incorrectly. and promote an unhealthy attitude towards relationships They don't at all. The deepest relationships consist of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/14 03:15 AM
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You sometimes get glimpses of it. You think she has honour. But then you find out the principle is forced on her from an outside source. Or that it aligned with her feelings at the time (which obviously changes). I've never seen a woman motivated by honor This is definitely a rarity.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/14 03:01 AM
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Don't tell a woman not to say sorry. That's how you make a bitch.
/r/TheRedPill17/04/14 06:02 PM
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I'm not too sure.. I can't even use the word "submissive" without unwarranted hate.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/14 10:35 PM
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You don't think the TBPer had cleverly thought of that ploy? Lol I'm just kidding.. who are the 2 that started it?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/14 10:33 PM
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If you think that there's more to TRP than just getting laid It is more than this.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/14 10:20 PM
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You can say that sexual strategy is amoral That is why individual guys in specific situations might not wish to employ this (such as within an inner circle of friends). Or even in general if it does not match their morals as a person.
/r/TheRedPill16/04/14 10:14 PM
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TRP focuses on all women. If the majority of women aren't like that - please point this out. THIS is what people in TRP want to learn about. Who cares about a minority? No one. You also need to have an objective outside outlook to it to accurately assess that. You can't say "I'm not like that so that can't be true." because that doesn't disprove anything. It's like a guy who has never had sex/never had a relationship saying he doesn't care about sex. Wrong. He is predisposed to want to have sex …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/14 09:55 PM
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I think the question could be less ambiguous. I think a better question would be: "Women, what do you think you bring into a marriage that a man cannot have while single or in a relationship AND THAT HE WOULD VALUE?"
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/14 09:49 PM
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I would honestly write down my qualities that I value in a woman (and probably which many guys do too) but I would be downvoted. I don't value the same things in a woman that I do in a man. For a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/14 09:38 PM
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This is a loaded question which subtly reaffirms that Red Pill is about women hating (it's not). The real question is why is it NOT bad to be a misogynist? What does hating do for you? It creates more problems in your life than fixes.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/14 09:34 PM
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I doubt that most of them are even representative of themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/14 09:29 PM
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Stop fucking posting this reverse situation. You learn nothing from it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/14 09:20 PM
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The problem is with ALL feminists. Extreme or not.
/r/TheRedPill16/04/14 09:01 PM
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I would offer one piece of advice. Keep doing it and once you find out that you can no longer get it - THEN tell the guy. Why? He honestly would want to know AND that would end their relationship, potentially giving you more. The woman is entirely to blame so you shouldn't worry.
/r/AlreadyRed16/04/14 12:15 AM
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I'll be honest - every guy (IF HE COULD) would spin plates. The act of wanting to spin plates says nothing about the guy. But only the most alpha ones are actually able to do it. So you are basically saying (naively) you want a more beta-type of guy. This is a disconnect from what you truly are attracted to and what you say you are attracted to.
/r/RedPillWomen15/04/14 07:22 PM
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I'm not American. It doesn't have to do with the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/14 07:10 PM
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To some degree, I would agree with you. But instincts are always there even if you don't notice them. The whole reason we even want to have sex is because of instincts. The whole reason we find certain women more attractive than others is because of instinct. Many things all come from instinct. And these apply to all people regardless of IQ. Higher IQ people just happen to be more affected by the environment in such a way that they are less conditioned to sex/relationships/etc. Basically, they d…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/14 07:01 PM
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The education system in western society also positively discriminates towards girls (leading to inflated IQ scores/etc).
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/14 06:52 PM
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We're led to believe that, but is that true? That is the crux of the problem with TRP. Some traits/behaviours/etc are found more commonly in women than in men (and it's not because of culture). If you looked at dogs and humans, and said the same thing - you would most certainly be wrong as that is NOT the case. As you CAN stereotype all dogs as different than humans. Now men and women are not AS DIFFERENT and that is probably why the differences are not as obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/14 02:30 PM
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I'm not trying to speak for myself here.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/14 03:53 AM
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I feel like what you WANTED to say was that if the man wants sex it's always the right time and that women should not turn down sex Sure that too. That's the whole point of compatibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/14 03:49 AM
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You seem completely unable to fathom the idea of women having a high sex drive, it stands to reason that you have never dated one. I've had sex with sluts that have sex multiple times a week. I'm well aware of sex drive. You clearly don't understand what I'm saying when I say "value" sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/14 03:48 AM
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If I saw men legislating for women's contraception with as little fuss as they do for Viagra then yes. So what if 80% of men (40% total) and 40% of women (20% total) don't want women's contraception? And the men legislating for that took that into consideration? Whereas if women were to, they would weigh the 60% women more highly than the rest of the population. And by the way, women aren't a minority. We are half the human race. I know that. That's why I didn't explicitly say that, even though …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/14 03:45 AM
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I think you just have a hard time conveying your true thoughts into non-politically-correct words.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/14 03:40 AM
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based completely off of generalizations fed to you by TRP. The thing is, most people aren't going to fit neatly into those boxes. That is the whole point of a generalization. You don't understand RP. Because RP is general enough that it DOES apply to basically everyone. Get off TRP and actually interact with other people. I have sex plenty, thanks. Have you seriously never dated a woman with a high sex drive? Not sure where you are getting this from cause RP says nothing about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/14 03:37 AM
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Compatibility is obviously a big thing. And I'm not going to settle for less than a high value woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/14 03:32 AM
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Do you not want someone to look up to you/support you/appreciate you/follow your decisions? Someone who respects you that much?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/14 03:28 AM
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But I don't. I enjoy sex very much and see it as a fundamental part of our relationship. He feels the same way. Wrong. You clearly didn't leave him for those (or even lost love/respect for him). You have hard time understanding that one person can want something different than another person. And both these people could have different standards in the relationship. It isn't me that it misunderstanding here, it is you. You are incapable as viewing women as people with their own sexuality, so you …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/14 03:21 AM
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Why doesn't the reverse matter? If I want sex and my bf says "not now", which has happened to me on several occasions, why should I not leave him if under the same circumstances you believe he should do the same to me? Because you view and value sex differently in the relationship than he does? How can you not understand that?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/14 03:15 AM
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Do you not understand that a majority group could represent everyone better than a minority group can? Or that men could potentially represent men and women better than women can? That's a definite possibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/14 03:13 AM
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Your implication is that almost all women are not clingy and needy. I don't see you saying "Source?" for every comment in every thread - why is that?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/14 03:11 AM
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My boyfriend says no to sex with me once. Am i allowed to leave him because he's not complying with my wishes? I'm a woman by the way. Why is this reverse constantly mentioned as if it matters. Do you have the exact same needs/wants as him? You should think independently of him - not reciprocating the exact same actions. If a man wants to be in a relationship where he always initiates - then either you're okay with that or you're not. But his needs/wants are independent of yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/14 03:05 AM
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If my partner doesn't like it, they can leave, Yes and more men should do this. They need to stop putting up with bad behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/14 02:59 AM
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Because there is nothing for them to depend on?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/14 02:55 AM
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Source to the contrary?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/14 02:53 AM
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Why can't you have standards? At what point of her withholding sex is it not acceptable? 3 times? 5 times? 10 times? You should have a standard of 0 and you should have enough trust/respect/etc in the guy to know that he won't initiate at a bad time. Otherwise, you shouldn't be with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/14 02:51 AM
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I rather have. Me. My own personal opinion. thats what that means. No kidding. Your statement does not apply to every man I also implied this with the 2nd paragraph and why dread game is advocated. truthfully, everything you've said you want in a woman, i hear men frequently wanting the opposite Uh, I think you hear this from women more than men. You are either thinking it's the extreme I'm talking about OR you are missing how everything relates to it. If you ask any man if he would prefer a gir…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/14 02:43 AM
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but there should be equal representation of voice so women's issues are treated equally. Why do you think that's not being met now? I point this fallacy out constantly, but an equal representation can be obtained without equal distribution of political delegates. Let's say male delegates represent men and women equally 50/50 while female delegates represent men 30% and women 70%. So even if you had 50/50 distribution, the representation is NOT equal. You now have the women's side 60% represented…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/14 02:33 AM
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Women are turned off by it and assume men are too. Nope. She could text me 10x more than me - I could care less. If anything, I prefer it. Of course anything to an extreme is bad. But it should be MORE needy/clingy than not.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/14 01:06 AM
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As far as unicorns go, they are made, not found. I agree with you here. The only way to get a girl remotely similar to one is to make it yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/14 01:05 AM
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Classic dodge. It should be since it's a complex social subject that has a lot of information out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/14 12:50 AM
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C'mon man, "differences" don't really support power dynamics- otherwise you could sort people by eye colour, or handedness. You need to try harder than that. Differences imply that one power dynamic would work more often than another. And then getting that person to agree that men show certain traits more often than women would signify that the male-dominated relationships would succeed more than female-dominated ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/14 12:46 AM
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If I didn't have a life, I'd consider wasting my time doing that. And then maybe I could just link that post every time anyone asks that question about RP who hasn't put in any effort to find it themselves. How about we just use logic - do you think men and women are different? Why or why not? And on that note, do you believe in feminism? If so, why?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/14 12:34 AM
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If a woman were to use dread game on a red pill man I bet they would get upset about female privilege. No, he would probably just leave the relationship (if it was an LTR) because of a lack of respect. Otherwise he would completely ignore it and keep her as a plate.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/14 12:27 AM
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My opinion consists of relating back to the innate gender differences (not back onto itself in a circular fashion). My opinion is influenced by all the data/information that RP uses and by a fundamental belief that men and women are different. Also, from anecdotal experience, I've observed this many times.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/14 12:06 AM
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No couple is exactly 50/50 and it would be too much of an unhappy power struggle. In my opinion, the relationships which are more woman dominated tend to fail more while more male dominated ones tend to succeed more. Why? Relates back to innate gender differences.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/14 11:43 PM
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I'd rather take the effort to find a girl where those extreme actions are not necessary than find a girl who is so shitty it's required to do those sorts of things to keep her from being shitty. The thing is that these girls are rare, if non-existent (ie: a unicorn). Do you think she will constantly be putting 100% towards you all the time? No. A woman is only going to strive to work for what she can't have. This is where the dread game comes in.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/14 11:37 PM
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I rather have a woman need and appreciate me. I would entirely prefer a clingy/needy girl over the opposite. It's the most natural way for me to be the man of the relationship (dominant) without having to do anything. The only reason dread game exists is to make the girl into this. Women are constantly given shit advice from each other about not depending on the guy, waiting days before responding, pretending not to care, not messaging enough, and all this other shit to not seem 'clingy/needy' w…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/14 11:15 PM
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You wouldn't need to use dread game on a unicorn.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/14 10:43 PM
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You are just one more data point of RPs that hate feminism while not knowing anything about it, what it's accomplished, or how it fits into society. I don't think you know anything about it except the misleading image that it tries to portray.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/14 09:22 PM
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Rates of marriage are down because both sexes show they don't want to get married. I would say feminism is a big reason. There's a correlation to how feminized a country is and what their marriage/birth rate is. (But it might be a confounding variable relating to how developed the country is.)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/14 09:12 PM
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Each one different. The question is different by how much. Obviously they aren't 100% different. Nor are they 0% (ie: the same). How general/specific can you be to apply to every one of them? And it might not be worth being that general to apply to every one of them - maybe sacrificing a small % (3 standard deviations instead) would allow you to be much more detailed - which is what RP is trying to do. Those outliers are worthless in the grand scheme of things.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/14 09:08 PM
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Men and women are different, and can choose different methods to go about their relationship. Men and women also react differently to different methods. If I (as a man) ever received an ultimatum, I'd instantly break off the relationship regardless of what it was for. Like I said, it's up to her to decide that. She might not want to. She might care about other aspects of the relationship over sex or other needs.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/14 08:59 PM
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What if a wife wants to have sex? Should her husband completely drop anything and everything in his life to have sex with her? She can decide for herself. The situations don't have to be equal or the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/14 08:37 PM
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You still don't have a right TO sex with that person, or any person for that matter, just like they don't have a right TO sex with you. This is pointless to say. This logic can be applied to anything. Who cares? He has a right to expect sex and he has a right to leave the relationship if he's not getting any.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/14 08:34 PM
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This subreddit suffers from an inability to just come out and say "women are lesser fucking human beings." Fuck no. Please stop posting. You're embarrassing yourself.
/r/TheRedPill14/04/14 04:39 AM
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That's childish advice. It's the worst advice in this thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/14 03:57 AM
0

Breast preference. By many, many more years.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/14 01:08 AM
0

Being the strongest guy doesn't mean you're the most alpha/attractive one. The definition of alpha is not how physically strong, or even how physically attractive, you are. Your appearance is just one aspect. You need to understand that.
/r/TheRedPill14/04/14 12:19 AM
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That is why it's not possible for every man to do that. And any woman who's not chaste/open to doing that is not someone you want to be in an LTR with. RP doesn't encourage anything - you can do whatever you want.
/r/TheRedPill13/04/14 11:22 PM
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She might also be describing a lack of confidence and communication which has little to do with being stoic.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/14 10:58 PM
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I think it is more of a log function. If she says 100, it's probably not 300.
/r/TheRedPill13/04/14 10:45 PM
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Correct response to "none of your business" is "no LTR until honesty is there". She can remain a plate who's not going to get promoted.
/r/TheRedPill13/04/14 10:02 PM
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That is specifically what I did not do. It doesn't seem like you even read or understood my post. You argued a point I wasn't making, and then repeated a point I did actually make. ?? Lol. I'm not saying you specifically. It's a rhetorical question.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/14 07:58 PM
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The stats on women in government, for example. Is discrimination playing a role, on some level? Almost certainly. Something not being 50/50 doesn't imply discrimination. think there are other, possibly larger, explanations, too? Yes. Women might, for whatever reason, be less interested than men in seeking political power. A goal of 50% women in power is just as bad as 17% women in power if some of that 50% have been pushed onto the power-seeking career path by ideologues. Exactly. Let's say the …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/14 07:18 PM
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Where I think there is a big disconnect is that these things fail to realize where the media comes from and what makes certain things more successful/influential over others. The media (and culture for that matter) comes from ourselves. It doesn't matter how much you purposely try to change the messages in the media. Do you think the media influences people or do people influence the media? Let's say you wanted to change guys so that they don't care about boobs (a part of the sex side of success…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/14 07:11 PM
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Men and women are different and value different things. That's a fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/14 04:26 PM
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The last thing this sub needs is to turn into /r/AskWomen. That's bad. Don't do that. Exactly. Too much censorship and too influenced by beliefs.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/14 04:00 PM
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It's just an analogy anyways. It's putting effort towards something (a person) which if you have skill, can be done better. Maybe you could think of a wife being this fragile expensive plate that you value highly and you're spinning it - you're not going to risk spinning other plates at the potential risk of that one falling and breaking. Wallet on the other hand doesn't represent all men. More alpha men may not be wallets. Alpha men doing ONS/hookups/etc are not providing for the women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/14 03:51 PM
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A wife is not referred to as a "plate" which I think most of RPW is.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/14 03:38 PM
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You are still catering to them if you are policing language in terms of how they feel it should be used. They are still free to post anything, but why should their views dictate how this sub operates? If you, as a non-feminist, objectively come to that conclusion that 2 words are equally offensive towards both genders - then it doesn't matter if feminists think that the one towards women is bad (a 'gender slur'). If some other religion came in and said "people should be referred to as aliens - n…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/14 03:35 PM
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I'm talking about guys who are short, overweight or scrawny, don't work out, don't have the best hygiene, dress sloppily, are shy and don't make much money. Looks and wealth are not everything. Women value a range of things, including confidence, humour, wit, and intelligence. And depending on their age/time in life, they also do want beta men over purely alpha ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/14 03:24 PM
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The blue pill isn't necessarily feminists though.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/14 03:18 PM
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This. Advice from girlfriends (all Americans as well) my age was at first "doooo iiiiiit" and then after I explained the French girls interaction they're like "hoooly shit I dunno." And I hope you don't take this shit advice to lower your SMV even more. Also, this thread is not really a debate topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/14 06:01 AM
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Are you a feminist? Do you ever handle cases with a bias/prejudgment?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/14 05:25 AM
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I actually think "cunt" is equally used towards men in some places/countries. I don't think "dick" is commonly used towards women though. "Bitch" would be. I'm okay with that too. Anything that pisses off feminists and is equal towards men and women is a good thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/14 05:23 AM
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RP = PUA + bitterness + misogyny, more or less It's not this. This is a very shallow view of it. Red pill is studying the gender differences in a non-political correct fashion. It's understanding how the world works through all the bullshit/brainwash in today's feminized society. TRP also primarily views it from the male perspective (as it is a male forum). — people on RP simultaneously claim that (everything that's wrong with women) is unchangeable women's nature, and that's it's product of lat…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/14 05:06 AM
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If you could find a way to combine upvotes/downvotes, all the problems would be fixed. The top comments from either side will move up and you won't have to worry about childish downvoting that hides a view.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/14 04:40 AM
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Most downvoting is from hating the person/comment and not debating it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/14 09:53 PM
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Would you say TRP believes in the metaphysical soul as a tangible thing? It seems like a very anti-mystical group to me. Non-tangible things that have a tangible impact on your life are just as important as tangible things that do. Would you say TRP links promiscuity with the ability to love? I wouldn't say this. TRP doesn't tell you what you should do. Men themselves do. Men link promiscuity to value (in an inverse relationship).
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/14 09:20 PM
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They are against it indirectly. The education itself doesn't matter. But if it affects how she is as a woman, then that is a problem. Spends less time being a wife. Less time caring about the relationship. Less family-oriented. More selfish. Lack other traits. Etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/14 09:15 PM
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Do you need the definition of a slut?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/14 09:07 PM
2

It has a well established framework. Please point out where it lacks coherency.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/14 09:05 PM
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It would prove that physical changes can happen by external sources. The whole point of what I am getting at. which I severely doubt You should try it then. If you were a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/14 09:02 PM
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Do you think everything said in that class is 100% correct or detailed? Those people know as little as everyone else. "The class told me it doesn't stretch - so that must mean no! Don't argue with the class! It didn't tell me why, but that doesn't matter." The class also told me "Men and women can equally get STDs." - except not. Women have double the chance to get them. [CDC std rates]
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/14 08:56 PM
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This basically describes how it is said. A non-ideal pussy to represent a non-ideal woman. Similar to how it is with a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/14 08:48 PM
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But sex does not equal stretching of the labia. It does not equal stretching to that extreme, sure. That is the whole point. To show that a physical change can happen. If you feel it will have no effect, please try it and post the results for us.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/14 08:43 PM
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That is why it isn't purely a physical thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/14 08:42 PM
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Never stop looking for a unicorn. The strive for perfection, although not obtainable, leads to great things.
/r/TheRedPill12/04/14 07:49 PM
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I think the issue is that Asian women are radiating more value (femininity, cuteness, fitness, etc) which makes betas out of men. It's a fact that you can accept or not.
/r/TheRedPill12/04/14 07:43 PM
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Respect is what a man needs and there's no respect for him shown in this response. You don't trust him. You don't view him as a man. You don't talk positively of him. You don't do anything to earn his love. Never assume a guy is homosexual. A chain of events needs to happen where you earn his love and he earns his respect.
/r/RedPillWomen12/04/14 07:16 PM
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Something like "dick pics or gtfo" sounds like something a guy would say to an anonymous chick on the internet. Yes, and it also sounds pretty disrespectful.
/r/RedPillWomen12/04/14 06:44 PM
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Some people just don't work, no matter the pill status. When the problem is her, she could change? That's always an option.
/r/RedPillWomen12/04/14 06:43 PM
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It depends on the channel of communication and the purpose of it. Men on an anonymous forum are going to be as blunt and honest as possible. Men really don't want to lie in real life too (assuming their purpose is to give advice) - they will instead not say anything. They would rather not disclose information than actively give you the wrong information. Another thing is that most women just don't understand reality - regardless of what channel they use to give you the advice.
/r/RedPillWomen12/04/14 06:39 PM
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Where's all the femininity and cuteness? Looking like a woman is just one part of being a woman.
/r/RedPillWomen12/04/14 06:06 PM
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Maybe if I look for one relating to extreme genital disfiguration and causes.. If it happens at an extreme end, then there's definitely an effect on the more mild side. There's too much "Masturbation is healthy. End of Story." It's not a topic that anyone wants to study.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/14 05:41 PM
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because I myself would definitely have been tempted to keep 'cunt' except bolded and in larger font. I would have done that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/14 04:53 PM
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What factors a woman uses and what a man uses to gauge a relationship are different. There's no reason to talk about it in the same sense. My comment was purely referring to what men think.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/14 03:54 PM
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"The Wall" is just an abstract concept referring to the point - an age - where women's SMV or attractiveness starts to decay, and decay past men. However the Wall is much more than just the physical; it’s the conditional that accelerates or decelerates a woman’s date with the Wall. Single mother? Acceleration. Consistent, bad personal habits? Acceleration. Careerist obsessive? Acceleration. Obesity? Acceleration. http://therationalmale.com/2012/07/18/the-wall/
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/14 03:34 PM
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Are men and terpers entitled little princes who don't have a sense of their worth like the females they complain about? Are women entitled when they want to ride the cock carousel all the way until they hit the wall, and then expect a guy to accept that? Are women entitled when they want to have their cake and eat it too? Are women entitled when they want society to do everything for them? Are women entitled when they want everything and think it's possible?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/14 03:26 PM
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you are probably going to be scraping at the shallow end of the barrel in terms of personality and character-don't complain, That is why a unicorn is a mythical, rare creature. If you want love, loyalty, a companion, you should be looking at compatibility of attitudes, morals, values, hobbies-not purely physical attractiveness. If there's no physical attractiveness, there's no relationship. Personality comes after for additional value that may be enough to attract my commitment. After a threshol…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/14 03:23 PM
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How about you make use of that wasted effort to develop a better framework? Stop wasting your time trolling/hating as it provides no merit.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/14 01:18 AM
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You have 5 more years to use your SMV advantage to attract a potential mate, and not only that, but one who will be more attractive later on in life. But as you said so yourself, you managed to acquire commitment from a guy. The guy has already validated your value. Now it's your personality that can still be worked on to maintain value. Amazing personality doesn't usually appear in younger women and that is something that you can strive for, as well as maintaining your body. You also need to un…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/14 01:11 AM
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I would suggest stop visiting TBP - but you may think this is coming from a bias. Seriously, they focus on mistakes over the bigger picture. They care about hating over teaching. That subreddit doesn't teach you anything and leaves you with more questions. Are people really random or not? Can anything really be said? And the answer, contrary to what TBP thinks, is yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/14 12:52 AM
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However, if you keep this bitter mindset about how you are old you will age faster darling. A bitter attitude will age you far worse than any wrinkles or dark circles will. Good advice for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/14 12:48 AM
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Change your focus from the details to the general. Stop worrying about specific actions and worry about yourself as a whole. Men and women are different. That's okay. That is how life was intended and how it works out. And then take a break from here. Ignore the hate (I imagine it is much, much worse from TBP feminist teens). Someone who attacks you over your view is someone who isn't rational enough to have an attack with any meaning.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/14 12:46 AM
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An 'independent' woman should be independent, and alone. Fuck them.
/r/TheRedPill11/04/14 05:51 PM
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Here's a good analogy to convey how to look at it. Let's say there are two guys, one who is suicidal and wants to shoot himself in the head. The other guy who isn't. Now, by your logic, you would say that some men want to shoot themselves, some don't, and you can't talk for all men. But really, NO man wants to shoot himself. Not even that person. He doesn't actually want to kill himself - given different circumstances, he wouldn't. He's not thinking in the right mindset and he's not equally repr…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/14 04:50 PM
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A man who gets injected with high amounts of estrogens/other hormones/other drugs and who becomes a transgender, may have an entirely different pattern of behaviour. But is this person representative of all men now? No. There will always be exceptions, which is why speaking in absolutes about humanity is the mark of religion rather than science. It's a theory. Not a belief. And it includes those exceptions as irrelevant to the underlying trends/traits/etc. If a better theory comes along that bet…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/14 04:36 PM
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TRP states that all men/women (100%) follow a trait to a degree (which might not be 100%, but follows a pattern). The degree that men and women follow these will be different from each other. You talk about it in black-and-white in terms of what the majority/average is, but it's not actually like that in real life. Also, what someone says and what someone actually does or is - are 2 different things. Someone might SAY they don't care about something when they in fact do.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/14 04:27 PM
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We need to use more stats/sources like this post. This is like the ideal post in conveying objective evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/14 04:19 PM
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TRP isn't about making people into 100% alphas. You can be that if you want, but you have to understand that a successful relationship requires enough alpha to be attractive to her to only be with you, and enough beta to provide long-term reassurance. TRP is understanding reality and doing what you want with it - including being a beta if you want that (but obviously given the choice, you wouldn't want to).
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/14 04:16 PM
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Attractiveness works both ways. All the most attractive guys to women have higher degrees of alpha behaviour than the guys they aren't attracted to. They may even be continuing their sluttiness even after years of marriage to these alphas. Then that guy is probably not a very good example of one who demonstates alpha traits. I don't see it as being a far-fetched scenario and I'm sure there are plenty of women who have done this or are doing this or are planning on doing this (even at a young age…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/14 04:00 PM
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It takes little effort to get fucked. So what's so special about these women? Or are these women dime a dozen? Yes. while keeping the husband, children, parents, friends happy with the appearance of a happy life, while still being genuinely happy, really a more regular or ordinary thing than we think? She just needs the added personality of being a psychopath who's good at hiding shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/14 03:56 PM
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A slut is not an "alpha". To be a very good slut, you just need to be the top in physical attractiveness and then have a dishonest psychopath personality. But really, you want the woman to be like this (present very high value), without actually doing the act and making herself into a slut. She has many people interested in her, beta orbiters, etc and she uses that to her advantage. If she actually went and got fucked constantly, she would lose her value quickly (unless she put huge effort into …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/14 03:54 PM
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If this was actually true, if you were going off facts and trends, then saying AMALT makes zero sense. It entirely makes sense. All men are like that. They all follow it to some degree. You need qualifiers if you are going to stay in the realm of facts when it comes to what people are like because 100% adherence to a trait or preference can never be definitively proven. No one says anything is 100% exactly. But there are underlying things that create trends towards one type of behaviour/trait/et…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/14 02:33 PM
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Besides, its generally a bad idea to get advice about men from women. Cosmo and all... Well, it's not just about men, but yeah..
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/14 02:22 AM
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Too much to list.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/14 02:17 AM
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You don't balance it. You lean to the side that's more feminine. (Caring/clingy over cold/distant.) How much shit testing is too much for an LTR? You should pose that to r/redpillwomen.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/14 02:08 AM
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You subscribe to a specific worldview and won't be shaken in your beliefs. It's not >really< a belief. It's a >type of< fact. Most people, for most things, follow a normal curve. all men utterly disregard intelligence in women Some in fact say they want that (naively). They use intelligence as a blanket statement for a bunch of personality traits that aren't actually intelligence. I'm not interested in changing your mind or talking you out of fucking who you want to fuck, so as I said, there doe…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/14 01:57 AM
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But a lack of emotion/being more rational can come off as cold, which is not a positive trait for a woman. I'm not saying that. . Shit testing is an extension of the prudence trait, the opposite of prudence is the negative trait of being slutty. Once you are in a LTR, the shit testing can be reduced. At which point prudence/sluttiness is irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/14 01:54 AM
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That's another type of double standard, which is not being referred to. The double standard is taking 2 similar things and treating them differently.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/14 01:49 AM
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Consider that I may have some insight into what straight men go for in women. I also strongly suspect I run with a very different crowd to yours. Haha no. AMALT. TRP is a place where men of similiar interests and philosophies hang out, none of you should make the mistake of thinking AMALT. That is the whole point of TRP. To understand ALL men and women. If it didn't apply to all or at least a majority (because of an underlying trend), then it wouldn't be said. It would be fucking worthless to sa…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/14 01:44 AM
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Yet a woman without these traits (a unicorn if you will) is viewed as masculine and unattractive. It's possible to suppress the negative aspects of yourself and these traits, without getting rid of the positive aspects. You can be cute/feminine without being an irrational bitch shit testing constantly. When you can become self-aware of your actions, that makes you one step closer to becoming a unicorn. A unicorn is not masculine and unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/14 01:32 AM
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Both of these men openly state they are interested in a very narrow group of women How is it narrow? Do you think most women are funny? (Haha no.) They lack interest in a wider group that also lacks interest in them. What does that even mean? My interest is not based on their interest at all. TRPers seem pretty convinced that AMALT but I really don't think they are. Sure they are. Get every guy to rate women from all ages and you will see the average closer to early 20's. The best men I've known…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/14 01:15 AM
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TRP is not concerned with the specifics so much as PUA is.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/14 01:00 AM
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You don't look down on women? Nope, I'm past the anger phase. What's "hamstering"? A trait that is found in women more than men. So what's the point of marriage to someone who wants to be an "alpha male"? Exclusive access to a high value female, in which you get other benefits other than sex? And other than 'love' (the true, unconditional kind of love). Such as companionship, good feelings, a high amount of respect from someone who supports/appreciates/motivates you though life. Someone that off…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/14 12:57 AM
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but not all, like the law. I said treat, as in the culture and people should treat each other differently. The law shouldn't necessarily be the one doing that. Otherwise the law is too specific and too restrictive.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/14 12:46 AM
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I don't understand how you can want a marriage when you're following a cult that believes women are so stupid they're not even really human. And the only women that will want to be with a man that thinks that low of women are women that are that low, so you have a problem. How can you find companionship when it's repeated again and again by RPs that you can't even talk to women, women have no interests, women have nothing worth saying? Holy fuck. There is so much shit in this comment that it's a…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/14 10:14 PM
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A man is willing to get married to any woman that provides so much value to him that he would rather be with her exclusively than try to be with any other girl ever again. Once you are past a threshold of looks, it's entirely dependent on her personality to bring value.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/14 10:08 PM
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I don't think his logic is well explained. He is only describing one factor - how easy it is. The lock isn't shitty because it can be opened easily with a key (well at least not the main reason). No, the 'grossness' of it is independent of how easy it is to get. Men find it 'gross' if a woman does it regardless if it was easy or not. The act of her getting fucked by other guys devalues her to him. Is it gross when an attractive man has sex with a lot of women? Why or why not? No man is going to …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/14 09:59 PM
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The question probably gets asked hundreds of times. Who the fuck wants to answer that that many times.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/14 05:06 PM
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Red pill is not men's rights. Red pill is recognizing the differences and acting on them. Not being ignorant of them. Men's rights is similar to feminism in some ways. However the law can and SHOULD be general enough that it applies to everyone equally regardless of these differences.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/14 04:46 PM
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Uh, do you think the women in these shows are the top 20% in attractiveness? Women are much harsher on criticizing men's looks. You think only the men are average, but it's the women too. Do you see any top 20% beautiful women in Everyone Loves Raymond or Seinfeld? Fuck no. They're a product of men making wish fulfillment shows. Not really.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/14 01:33 PM
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Basically, that men and women are the same and should be treated as such. No.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/14 01:16 PM
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Please explain concisely why you believe that "women are different" is grounds to deny them any of the rights listed above, and how "science" backs you up on that. I never said that and I don't think modern feminism is concerned with most of those as they've already been obtained. You can't just reverse my statement and say prove how science backs that up when I've clearly said it's feminism that needs it. Feminism is the one with the beliefs. Please learn to read.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/14 04:09 AM
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You're trying to tell me to ignore my instinctive feelings of what I find attractive (eg: stop caring about boobs). Why don't you take a success-positive mindset and start dating socially awkward homeless guys? Realize that women also have high sex drives. And? It shows strength if they care enough for themselves to not give in. If she wants to be highly valued, she would do that. It's no effort for a slut to get fucked. It also doesn't say much positive of her for being one. I'm also perfectly …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/14 03:55 AM
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Little evidence of abusive relationships? Or workplace harassment? Or job discrimination? Or not equal pay? Have you ever taken a history class? It is only because of feminism that these issues have largely been relegated to the past. It is only because women worked to end these problems that they are less common now. I'm also talking more about modern feminism too (which is arguably much worse)..
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/14 03:27 AM
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A world in which you have contempt for a woman ("slut") that you sleep with, because she is sleeping with you. I don't at all. I'm perfectly okay with that. It's just if she slept with OTHER guys. That is where she loses value to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/14 03:14 AM
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The simple economic theory of comparative advantage says that 2 different groups should specialize in what they are good at (even if it is not an absolute advantage). However, I have not really thought about it. I was merely pointing out that feminism is just a bunch of religious beliefs.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/14 02:54 AM
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One more thing that I didn't mention. What feminism says and what it actually does are 2 very different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/14 02:36 AM
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I just gave the best and most appropriate example of why hypocrisy is okay. It's based on the differences between men and women. There's no actual double standard when it applies to 2 different things and is BASED on that difference. I hope you're not the one downvoting my responses.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/14 02:27 AM
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Also things like this which assume benevolent sexism, discrimination, harassment, etc to give more benefit to women, has very little evidence. Women should have resources to leave abusive relationships (ex. battered women's shelters) Women should not be sexually harassed in the workplace Women should receive equal pay as men that work in the same job Women should not be discriminated against when applying for a position for which they are qualified I'm not an MRA though and my focus isn't on the…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/14 02:24 AM
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It's the why. Thinking men and women are the exact same mentally, and making society 50/50 in everything is not supported by science. It never was. That direction of society over any other direction has never been explored (or why that would be the best path).
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/14 02:20 AM
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No surprise. Based on the nature of it, I doubt many women want to join it. It's mainly a male forum anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/14 02:14 AM
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At the very start of TRP, "alpha" and "beta" meant different things. The thoughts on this have entirely changed and improved.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/14 02:03 AM
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Fucking hypocrites. That's life. I have a dick. I don't want to date someone with a dick. Men and women are different. Figure that out.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/14 01:47 AM
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And what exactly about feminism is not backed by science? Find a list which has a consensus of everything feminism believes in, and where it wants to go. All of this. The whole movement is not backed by science.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/14 01:43 AM
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Give it another decade and a lot of them will be angry at the Red Pill for lying to them too. TRP is based on theories and hypotheses. If better ones come along, that is perfectly okay. It's not lying if it's the best theories and hypotheses right now. Many theories over the years have been disproved with new information. It's like feminism saying the Earth is flat and religiously believing it. TRP would be enlightening by saying that it's actually round (based on current theory). Both occurring…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/14 01:32 AM
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And who lied to you about men? Is there a popular group/movement doing that which is so integrated into modern society? A group that has poisoned even the education system to brainwash kids? A group that's followed like a religion with naive beliefs not backed by science? TRP is in direct contrast to modern feminism (and its beliefs).
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/14 12:59 AM
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I view women as sex objects the same way that women view men as success objects. Or more generally, I view a woman as an object in the same way I view any man as one.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/14 09:31 PM
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I still think it performs the same function as upvotes.
/r/TheRedPill09/04/14 05:50 PM
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Can the bot auto-delete the delta posts after processing them? Or do we have to sift through delta spam to read actual comments?
/r/TheRedPill09/04/14 05:42 PM
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I think /r/BecomeAMan is more about what should you do specifically to improve yourself (after having understood reality and after putting the blame on yourself). That subreddit also misses many of the people in TRP because they just don't want to go into another one.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/14 04:47 PM
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This is a really funny argument because shark attacks are actually very rare. Obviously, because there is no inherent need/want to be with sharks. The analogy didn't need to be expanded past the initial point that was made.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/14 04:03 PM
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I'm saying your analogy is decent.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/14 04:03 PM
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If you were a man, how would you go about getting laid? I know it's hard to comprehend the purpose of this thread, but at least try.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/14 03:58 PM
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You want sex? Cross your fingers and masturbate in the meantime!!! Wtf. And this shit gets upvoted because bluepill feminist teen girls are illogical/dumb as fuck. So why don't you give some useful advice when the question is how to get laid? Masturbating does nothing (or possibly the complete opposite) for achieving this goal. YOU have failed to understand the male experience. Not him.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/14 03:41 PM
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The anger is being deceived in life and believing a bullshit fantasy that isn't actually true. Women just happen to be the subject matter of that fantasy. TRP is about getting past the anger, understanding reality, and working on yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/14 03:30 PM
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It's how men who sleep with and date me act. Other thins might work on other women but this is what works on me. It's how men seem to act. I mean, I don think women are children so I could be honest and frank, in fact, if you think women are like children, do be honest and frank because you deserve what you get from that. It will probably be the same for any thought men have deep down on the matter. As they have different/conflicting goals. So the advice should be NOT to be open with it. I don't…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/14 11:56 AM
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Anything not RP is BP by definition. Maybe you took only a fraction of the red pill. The prescription requires proper dosage though. TRP is more concerned with reality than ideals. TBP is ignorant of reality and only concerned with ideals.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/14 03:32 AM
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Your advice is solid. Solid and general enough that it doesn't do anything. She still expects everything else to come naturally.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/14 01:34 AM
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Travel a lot, read constantly, be able to engage in difficult debate, have a good pop culture knowledge, have a good sense of humour, be sexually open-minded, be honest and frank all the time, join OKC, socialize as much as possible, talk to everyone, respect everyone, have a good and specific idea of what you want, hone in on people who fit your criteria and bother to get To know them, not think that my having spent time on them entitles me to anything, not think that time spent on someone is w…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/14 01:24 AM
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I think there should be a format to how to debate points here. Since TBP is basically anti-TRP and has no position itself, the debate should go as follows: E.g. TRP says women are different in X way. Men should respond by doing action A. Now to argue this you would say one of the following: Men and women are not different because of _. Women are actually different in Y way because of _. Men should employ B action instead of A action because of _. Or maybe: No, it actually says [fill extreme stra…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/14 12:13 AM
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Almost everybody reproduces. Darwinian selection has halted. I'm sorry, but this is a ridiculous thing to say. Yet I'm the one with downvotes. Here's a good example. Look at race. Look at the racial populations in the world. Do you see them changing? In 100 years, do you think it will be the same as it is today (or at least in the same ratios)? No. How about 10000 years? Definitely not. Evolution is occurring - it occurs over all time scales.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/14 09:36 PM
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A good article about this. It doesn't matter if 99% of babies are living if 99% of people are not reproducing. The Darwinian natural selection is happening at the level of who gets to reproduce.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/14 09:26 PM
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You, of course, mean cultural evolution I presume? Biological evolution hasn't occurred for human beings for hundreds of thousands of years, and because of our stability, probably will never happen again unless something goes terribly awry. Biological evolution has DEFINITELY occurred in those hundreds of thousands of years. The changes just aren't as major or necessarily noticeable. (There's a good example of foxes bred in captivity in Russia that changed from naturally aggressive to passive/ta…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/14 09:16 PM
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TRP is a reaction to feminism (which is everything you stated that you think feminism solves) so it will grow. Maybe even through other outlets that come up independently. When you get 2 different groups and you try to mesh them together and pretend that they are the same, you are going to get this kind of reaction. Evolution doesn't work that quickly - but there's always the option of artificial means to make both sexes/genders the same (or as similar as possible). But why?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/14 08:56 PM
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I say let women do what they want. If they want to sleep around awesome. Judging people based o their numbers is really fucked up and kinda immature. And why not let men do what they want? Including judging a potential mate before he goes into a long term relationship with her?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/14 08:46 PM
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The thing is you want to be alpha enough to attract her and beta enough to provide long-term reassurance. Wth TRP, you should do whatever you want. It shouldn't be based on what a woman wants. Why go for this type of 'academic/intelligent' woman for a long term relationship? Why not go for a woman you find more valuable?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/14 08:34 PM
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Assume a woman in her position had no option of a guy with external sources of attraction (wealth, status, etc) and looks were all the same, ask yourself - would she be more attracted to an alpha or beta type of man - given that he has nothing else to offer?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/14 08:18 PM
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True, but I think it's also the misconstrued stuff posted on /r/TheBluePill.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/14 08:03 PM
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Why do bluepill posts that make no sense get upvoted while logical redpill ones get downvoted? Literally wtf.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/14 07:46 PM
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What TRP men I guess lack is a general sense of intuition. Most of the guys attracted to TRP are guys who never realized the women they married or forced themselves on...never really lusted after them. That in itself shows a lack of awareness IMHO. Where are you even getting this from? You don't even know any RP-enlightened people in real life. It could be any guy - even the one you are most attracted to who does these things consciously or instinctively. These 'intuitive' people. Let me give yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/14 07:36 PM
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How the fuck are these posts being downvoted? Why are downvotes even happening?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/14 07:26 PM
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It's the natural order of things when you deliberately do nothing and it happens. Positive discrimination is not that. Also, I'm not sure why every post of mine is getting downvoted.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/14 03:46 AM
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Whenever gender role is talked about, it's always considered to be one specific thing. But in reality, there are a range of them each having one or more of what makes the "stereotypical gender role". It's also assumed that culture is 100% responsible for them which is false.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/14 03:30 AM
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Sure, but I wouldn't expect or encourage anything to be 50/50 on no basis. Positive discrimination to change the natural order of things is just as bad as any discrimination.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/14 11:39 PM
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You're no different than a feminist denying radical feminism. I'm actually against the core of feminism as well. I think it is filled with naive beliefs not backed by science and does more harm than good. This is not considering the people who make up it. Radical feminism may have deliberate misandry ("all men should die"), but I could care less.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/14 11:26 PM
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There's definitely people there who hate women based on the nature of the subreddit. But redpill itself has nothing to do with that. People can say whatever they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/14 11:22 PM
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Different does not mean LESSER than. It's nothing but bigotry and frankly it's sad. How is it bigotry? Bigotry is the state of mind of a bigot: someone who, as a result of their prejudices, treats or views other people with fear, distrust or hatred There's no fear, hate, distrust, or intolerance. The fundamental reason that group exists is to understand how the genders are different and to see through the feminist bullshit (the real bigotry).
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/14 11:09 PM
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Everything this guy is saying is right. Statistics and probability should play a key role in understanding things in real life when you don't know the real underlying reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/14 11:02 PM
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instead of seeing women as being lesser than? At no point does anyone NOT view women as people. They entirely do. I just don't see how you can't understand that they are different than men. Women are entirely treated as people. There's nothing else that they could possibly be fucking treated like. Literally no inanimate object or living creature is treated the same as a woman. You believe that there is this mythical "people" standard which doesn't exist. And then when you try to find out what ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/14 10:57 PM
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That's why I tried to show her as someone with some status that "NARPALT". It's not about if "NARPALT" because redpill itself has really nothing to do with being misogynistic. Since in my view both parties want something different, I'm not entering into a relationship. There's nothing wrong with that and the happiest relationships fully work in conjunction to that. If I were to enter into a relationship, it would only be with someone who loves and respects me to an extremely high degree. Really?…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/14 10:46 PM
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Why are you trying to be reasonable with her? She hasn't thought through why she thinks this way (except that it was brainwashed by feminism). And then she stereotypes all of redpill as misogynistic jerks. Why are you concerned with giving the exact same respect/love if both parties want different amounts of it? Why act the exact same way if both parties want something different? Why not give something specifically-tailored to that person? Why be ignorant of the differences?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/14 10:26 PM
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endorsing the use of gendered slurs I think this person is only concerned with the word "cunt" and not "dick", as all feminist forums seem to be okay with calling guys "dick". I don't know how they find "cunt" so offensive.. Anything negative about a women = that's a no-no.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/14 09:23 PM
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Humans and dogs both belong to the same parent group (animals), just like men and women belong to the same parent group (humans). Men and women just have LESS differences than humans and dogs, as they are biologically more similar. I think you're an idiot.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/14 08:45 PM
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"Question to humans, if you were a dog how would you behave?" - the purpose of this question is to empathize with dogs? Really, I don't think you understand what you're saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/14 08:41 PM
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It's not like she explicitly directed it towards men..
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/14 08:32 PM
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I'm not disabled but I can empathize with someone in a wheelchair. You can empathize somewhat, sure, but you ultimately won't share that person's view. Trying to empathize gender differences is much more complicated to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/14 08:30 PM
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The human parts are where they are not different. The gender-based parts are where they are. Empathy when you share a different view doesn't make much sense here.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/14 08:19 PM
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What is the point of this question (referring to the thread) - what do you want to learn from it? We can get to that without this extra layer of bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/14 08:11 PM
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I imagine no TRP man would not admit that he wouldn't want to submit to someone else's will. No kidding. Because he is a man. And men and women are different and have different perspectives (primarily from biology). She is trying to get that point made, when it makes no sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/14 08:08 PM
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And you won't get any answer that makes any sense or is based on anything. Ask a redpill woman what she would do. That is the best indicator.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/14 07:49 PM
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If certain behaviour A gives you sex while certain behaviour B does not, then who the fuck cares about the morality behind it. Redpill doesn't encourage or discourage any behaviour (people on this subreddit might though).
/r/TheRedPill07/04/14 07:38 PM
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so technically ALL WOMEN AREN'T LIKE THAT. Well seeing as redpill says ALL PEOPLE ARE LIKE THAT, even men, technically it still applies (just at different degrees, to the point where it makes sense to talk about it in black-and-white).
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/14 07:35 PM
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Something.. something.. explore the female body for a period of time.. have girl-on-girl.. something.. something.. become a transgender and convert back to a man cause the fuck am I in a female body when I feel like I should have a dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/14 07:30 PM
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So you're saying what would a man's mind in a female body do? It took a lifetime as a man (biologically and culturally) to get to that point of thinking - so he will never have the same perspective as a woman. Short of replying that he would be a lesbian or that he would abuse some obvious advantage of being a woman, no fucking answer will be useful.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/14 07:24 PM
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And then ask the guy what he finds attractive for an LTR. And then find out both are different than what a women wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/14 07:19 PM
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No one is telling you what to do or hating on women. It is merely pointing it out and how it works in real life.
/r/TheRedPill07/04/14 06:42 PM
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There is no leading by example in this case, as that will just make you into someone who practices chivalry/white knighting/other beta traits and you will be easily disappointed. Unless the woman consciously makes an effort to do honourable things (because it isn't natural), assume she has none. Women don't view it to the same degree as men do. They are more self-centered.
/r/TheRedPill07/04/14 06:39 PM
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TRP is about reality. This person gets it.
/r/TheRedPill07/04/14 01:47 PM
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You should assume women have none when dealing with them.
/r/TheRedPill07/04/14 01:36 PM
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Exactly. They are making a lot of judgments about this person just from this one situation. Who cares. The behaviour isn't being encouraged per se - it's demonstrating how it happens in real life. He may have been a dumbass, but someone smart/capable with the same Dark Triad traits/confidence could do much more in life. At least in terms of using it on women.
/r/TheRedPill07/04/14 01:23 PM
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This isn't an equality forum. This isn't mensrights.
/r/TheRedPill07/04/14 01:12 PM
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Lol - I actually think it could be trolling.
/r/TheRedPill07/04/14 02:05 AM
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RP is human nature. Human nature didn't change.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/14 12:17 AM
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Red pill applies to ALL women. All women are like that (to a degree).
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/14 12:14 AM
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But at the same time, men prefer women who are experienced. Except not really.. I don't think you need to know any special techniques or anything. Just need to be sexually open and comfortable, with the right attitude. All else can be taught.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/14 04:14 PM
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Any basic PUA theory would be better than much of what goes in Redpill. Redpill in it self also a support group. I would say r/theredpill can be broken down into the wisdom and culture. The culture (the support group) is what is negatively seen, but the wisdom is what is important.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/14 06:05 AM
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Nah they won't. Sure they will. If you can come up with a theory X, which when used, can make 6/10 guys have sex over redpill's theory Y that only allows 5/10 guys to have sex, then they will all slowly transition to that after understanding it works. (Of course it isn't just sex that happiness is derived, or even why they are in that group.) TRP doesn't matter. It's just a group with a purpose of understanding the gender differences and seeing through bullshit in today's feminized society. Any …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/14 05:45 AM
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Like I've posted in the other thread, red pill isn't telling anyone what they should do. It's telling it how it is. If you did a survey of every guy in the world where you asked him if he would prefer a girl who got fucked by 20 guys in the past or the girl who got fucked by only 1 guy, all else the same --- pretty much every guy will want the girl with only 1 guy. They all value that girl over the one who got fucked by 20 guys (ie: the slut). It's an instinctive (arguably rational) feeling that…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/14 05:38 AM
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Would be nice if that were true. That is why they are theories/hypotheses. If you can make better ones that apply better in real life (since nothing is 100%), all of TRP guys will go to that. TRP will no longer exist. Make up a theory X that is better than redpill's theory Y (where X and Y is anything that is said) such that it is logically and scientifically supported, readily seen in real life, and not so general that no meaning can be derived from it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/14 05:23 AM
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But also because RP existence is an example of the existence of pussy power’s hold on men. So without women’s pussy power, RP would not need to exist. Yeah, so if women wanted to, they could go out and get fucked by so many guys. They can offer their pussy 24/7 to every guy (maybe to 80% instead of 20%?). But now if there are women not doing that, when guys want to settle down, they would prefer those women who haven't. So unless all women were to do that, pussy power won't change.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/14 05:17 AM
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The thing that I think you miss is that redpill is not some 'cult'. There are no 'RP guys'. RP doesn't tell you what to be. And there is nothing to 'combat' RP except do completely opposite to what is in your nature. Why? Because redpill explains human nature and how the genders are different. You can either understand that and take the best advice/strategy with that knowledge, or not. The basic assumption is that any guy there wants sex and the advice/strategy tends to be for getting that. Anot…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/14 05:04 AM
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I think of love more as a scale - from no love (or maybe some negative thing) to undying, unconditional love. Romantic love is lower on the scale than unconditional love. The point on that scale where you view someone can increase/decrease, but those increases/decreases don't happen equally or by the same amount. Getting from no love to 'romantic' love could be done in 1 day. To reach unconditional love, that may take a lifetime of small events or fewer major ones (and thus it is very hard to lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/14 07:58 PM
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I've said no such thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/14 07:49 PM
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I'm pretty sure that's not what the feminism propaganda says.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/14 07:27 PM
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But it is the mark of a respectful man (and in my opinion a truly good and alpha man) to be comfortable enough with himself to not take advantage of a weak woman. Why not the reverse? Why can't women not take advantage of weak men? It's because a woman is more in line to a child. That and society forcing men to be more beta is necessary for sustainability.
/r/RedPillWomen04/04/14 11:16 PM
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It means I respect him above all others (love, as I see it) Respect != Love But this is okay, because men prefer respect over love anyways. Men may need a baseline level of love, but they want as much respect as possible. (Whereas women are the opposite in needing a baseline level of respect and wanting as much love as possible.)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/14 07:50 AM
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entirely different from romantic love And this is what I think this whole thread is about. The majority of women can not go past "romantic love". They can keep it forever, but they don't go past it as much as men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/14 07:39 AM
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if he somehow turned abusive to our children Right here implies that you love your children more unconditionally than you love him. Which is not necessarily a good thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/14 07:23 AM
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The whole "women love conditionally and men love unconditionally" Whenever these things are talked about in black-and-white, it's not actually the case. It's the DEGREE to which both genders follow it. I would say men love unconditionally to a higher degree than women do. If someone saved my life once it does not give them the right to do anything they want and be shitty for the rest of forever. Why not? Anything is better than nothing. That person saved your life and you completely realize it. …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/14 07:15 AM
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One would think there would be some inherent disadvantages to forming any sort of long term partnerships with someone that way. This is a major gender difference. Guys don't really care if she has friends or not. They don't care if she is social or has any social status - doesn't really matter. It's her own personal personality and physical attractiveness that matters. Social validation means fuck all. If no other guy found her attractive, that is even better for me. But guys are not random. You…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/14 07:03 AM
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I don't necessarily agree with her premise that it is because men have "more time" that they don't do it. But her generalizations are fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/14 06:48 AM
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This is so idiotic, though. What kind of insane person loves someone romantically for no reason? Anyone with half a brain and the smallest shred of self respect has conditions for love. Conditions vary by individual, and some people may have much more strict conditions than others. The areas of importance for men and women are different, but they exist for both. Only a man riddled with extreme insecurity and self doubt is going to stick around no matter what, and a fear of being alone is a far c…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/14 06:39 AM
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If anyone cared, this whole subreddit would fall to pieces O:) That is why anecdotal evidence is not the only thing considered.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/14 03:04 AM
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Another point that isn't clearly mentioned here - the children of the single mother are missing a balanced parent influence (ie: missing the father figure that brings things that the mother does not). A single mother is bad for the child and the child suffers in life from it.
/r/RedPillWomen02/04/14 01:35 AM
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Right.
/r/TheRedPill01/04/14 08:22 PM
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There was no frame needed for that. I'm trying to get laughs out of it, not sex. She pulled you into her fight about dogs and you forgot about the point that you were trying to make. I don't think you understand that I completely directed that to show how stupid and hypocritical she is. One of the best ways to get someone to understand gender differences is to use the analogy of dogs and humans. so you were guided by her into a place that she could beat you. That never happened. I don't think yo…
/r/TheRedPill01/04/14 08:09 PM
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If a woman treated me like shit, that'd my fault for not laying down the law. Education and culture have nothing to do with it. As long as you are smarter than her, it won't be much of a problem. But if you think a woman only focused on herself and her career is better than one who doesn't do that, then you are kidding yourself.
/r/TheRedPill30/03/14 05:30 AM
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That is completely against TRP theory of natural attraction and evolutionary characteristics of men. A man doesn't care who he mates with, as long as she is physically attractive and has the personality traits (loving/caring/nurturing/selflessness/etc) to successfully raise his offspring. Why? Because he [technically] can mate with as many women as he wants. Now you could have come to your conclusion by ignoring your natural feelings. You could be willing to have a shit relationship for life wit…
/r/TheRedPill30/03/14 04:34 AM
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Simple correction is all that is needed: "I want an intelligent interesting woman." The specifics of what makes her interesting is still left to the subjective. Now anyone (a woman) reading it actually knows what it means instead of saying "oh, he finds a degree in a woman as attractive. I better do [masculine stuff that ruins her value]" or "I better argue a lot and always show him I am right cause I am a smart womyn". Fuck no.
/r/TheRedPill30/03/14 04:04 AM
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That is a common misconception.
/r/TheRedPill30/03/14 03:54 AM
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So you really want a woman who shows interest/shares the same interest and is enthusiastic? You are also implying that she should have higher social skills. Similar to the other reply, that isn't intelligence. You are misusing it as a blanket statement to describe other personality traits that you do find attractive.
/r/TheRedPill30/03/14 03:02 AM
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So you want a woman who is interesting then? As a source of entertainment? Why not say that then? Be specific and learn to use proper terminology. Interesting doesn't fall under intelligent.
/r/TheRedPill30/03/14 02:52 AM
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Hm interesting.. I feel that measure is too simple to be conclusive of anything and many of the claims are disputed. The curves obviously overlap more than what you would expect if you analyzed other traits that are known to be sexually dimorphic.
/r/TheRedPill30/03/14 12:50 AM
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You are assuming gender is binary. All fetus starts out with female charactaristics in the womb. The more male hormones the fetus is exposed to in the womb, the more male mental characteristics that will emerge. Gender can be considered basically binary. Think of it like 2 bell curves that appear on different sides of a scale. The average for a man and the average for a woman will be different, and they will collect around these averages (based on genetic make-up, corresponding hormone levels, e…
/r/TheRedPill30/03/14 12:13 AM
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Yes.. think of the normal distribution being the P.D.F., this curve would be the C.D.F. of that.
/r/TheRedPill30/03/14 12:10 AM
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Saying you like "intelligence" in a woman is just saying meaningless words that have been brainwashed into society by feminism. How are you going to measure that abstract concept? Based on her degree or career? No. Based on how 'cultured' she is? No. Based on how much she can talk or how witty she tries to be? No. Based on any other accomplishment that required her to be selfish/self-centered/ignorant/independent/MASCULINE? Which is all bad for a relationship? No. Intelligence in a woman is not …
/r/TheRedPill29/03/14 11:27 PM
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Women are more emotional than men. That key premise leads to many things including women "hamstering" more than men. Why is it so hard for the red pill posters in this thread to state that? As if going around the truth in a political correct way makes any sense. Men and women are different. That difference means one hamsters more than another. Redpill holds the belief that that is women (based on many logical reasons, anecdotal evidence, and some scientific evidence that can explain various rela…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/14 06:15 PM
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How can congress possibly represent the people if they're not representative of the population? I don't think any TRPers would be ok with women deciding legislation on men's issues, so why should men get so much power over women's health? See this is bordering on a logical fallacy. What if the people in power UNDERSTAND the population and can actually better represent the overall population than what any specific distribution could do. For example, what if more women in power (50%) DIDN'T CARE a…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/14 09:47 PM
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A comment I've made on this issue: Your body is the real art. It's something so special and unique - like an amazing one-of-a-kind painting. And then when you tattoo over it, you are ruining that painting with a sharpie. The painting's value just went a fuck ton down. Guess what? Most of the would-be buyers of that painting are now gone. That initial sharpie mark took out a huge chuck of the buyers. And then depending on how much gets ruined and how visible it is, more and more will no longer wa…
/r/TheRedPill24/03/14 11:24 PM
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