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| 2 | Are men overestimating physical attraction? | newleaseonlife1 | /r/AllPillDebate | 15/09/23 04:32 PM |
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| 1 | Are men overestimating physical attraction?The chart in figure 2 suggests it. | /r/AllPillDebate | 17/09/23 02:11 AM |
| 1 | Are men overestimating physical attraction?I copied it from the article. It's mostly in the last 3 pages | /r/AllPillDebate | 17/09/23 01:03 AM |
| 1 | Are men overestimating physical attraction?Hmm, fair enough. For me I know personality is much more important than looks. The study seems to suggest that for most women, looks are further far down on the list of importance, wouldn't you agree? | /r/AllPillDebate | 17/09/23 12:46 AM |
| 1 | Are men overestimating physical attraction?>In line with our prediction, incels did overestimate the value women place on physical attractiveness and financial resources, although so did non-incel single men. > This effect was largely driven by the stark underestimating of women’s preferences for loyalty and dependability, kindness, and emotional maturity. >While incels did make mistakes in their assessment of the value women place on these traits, they did not do so significantly more than non-incel single men. That is, both incels an… | /r/AllPillDebate | 17/09/23 12:15 AM |
| 1 | Are men overestimating physical attraction?Ah, apparently not to women according to this study. | /r/AllPillDebate | 16/09/23 11:42 PM |
| 1 | Are men overestimating physical attraction?Never said they have lower standards for physical attraction, just that looks alone are not what makes women want to have sex. I don't see an agenda, but I can understand how you'd feel that way. | /r/AllPillDebate | 16/09/23 11:29 PM |
| 1 | Are men overestimating physical attraction?Here is the entire study | /r/AllPillDebate | 16/09/23 11:13 PM |
| 1 | Are men overestimating physical attraction?Here is the study in full | /r/AllPillDebate | 16/09/23 11:13 PM |
| 1 | Are men overestimating physical attraction?here is the entire study. | /r/AllPillDebate | 16/09/23 11:12 PM |
| 1 | Are men overestimating physical attraction?Admittedly, I was not entirely focused while commenting. However I found some time and a copy of the full study, and you are right, it's worse than we thought. Turns out incels and non-incels both overestimate the importance of looks in contrast to what women report they care about. Even incels don't rank looks most important in choosing a mate. | /r/AllPillDebate | 16/09/23 11:11 PM |
| 1 | Are men overestimating physical attraction?Care to give an example of something I said that you think I'm just misunderstanding? | /r/AllPillDebate | 16/09/23 05:13 PM |
| 1 | Are men overestimating physical attraction?I actually understand how to read it as well. I have a masters in education and know how to read testing data, studies on how SES and other factors influence those results, etc. My partner has his Ph.D in the humanities and we read and talk a lot about how images and media theory as it relates to visual studies and society. So I know how to read dense texts as we discuss a lot of the books and concepts he reads. I literally cited points from each source to bolster my claim. That's how academia w… | /r/AllPillDebate | 16/09/23 04:54 PM |
| 1 | Are men overestimating physical attraction?It's so interesting watching the information presented get twisted around due to cognitive distortion. And the information you presented is.... the things you have seen. | /r/AllPillDebate | 16/09/23 04:36 PM |
| 1 | Are men overestimating physical attraction?Yup, my taxpayer money too. I work with refugees mostly and help them enter this country and succeed. I also wrote the curriculum for my subject for the city and I train teachers at a university here. I've shared multiple resources explaining how women think, yet you are pretty adamant on using illogical reasoning, so there is not much more I can do to explain this as it seems to be a cognitive delay or something preventing logical thoughts from forming here | /r/AllPillDebate | 16/09/23 03:43 PM |
| 1 | Are men overestimating physical attraction?Exactly. Women want to fuck men they admire. Not men that hold them back. You are not actually making an argument beyond "well, my personal experience is...." | /r/AllPillDebate | 16/09/23 03:23 PM |
| 0 | Are men overestimating physical attraction?No, even as you mentioned, my highest upvoted comment was that attraction sometimes builds over time. It's that much of common sense. If it was bullshit it would have not gotten any traction. Your beliefs are more the outlier. Women don't want money, they just want someone who isn't gonna slow them down or hold them back or cost them more. I've shared more than enough evidence to back up this claim in the tread. Women ultimately enter menopause and studies show that their attraction to someone v… | /r/AllPillDebate | 16/09/23 03:15 PM |
| 0 | Are men overestimating physical attraction?And women want to fuck men they admire and who make them feel safe. It makes them drip to see a man behave that way. Want to fuck. Read that as many times as you need to understand that. ...surely you see from me arguing the same way as you are how asinine this approach is | /r/AllPillDebate | 16/09/23 03:07 PM |
| 0 | Are men overestimating physical attraction?Again, that selection bias. It's just amazing to see some reason and debate this way. You keep telling me to stop but keep finding my comments to reply to. It's so interesting. | /r/AllPillDebate | 16/09/23 03:01 PM |
| 0 | Are men overestimating physical attraction?Yup, so do I. There are several resources there to back up the point that a hierarchical looks based society is not actually how women choose men to fuck. What's the most mind-boggling is that you are so sure about the anecdotal info from incels but call bullshit on the anecdotal info from women telling you this is not how their attraction works. Is your goal to only get a woman to want to fuck you once and then move on, or do you want the same woman coming back a few times, if not longer? Menta… | /r/AllPillDebate | 16/09/23 02:43 PM |
| 1 | Are men overestimating physical attraction?Females tend to be attracted to violence? Do you have anything to support that claim? As for why to study this echo chamber as opposed to reddit and the like, this is a very through and eloquent summary on the looks based hierarchy that incels believe exists and the subsequent mental and emotional fallout that is of concern to society as a whole. | /r/AllPillDebate | 16/09/23 02:38 PM |
| 1 | Are men overestimating physical attraction?It's worthwhile to study as it's often an echo chamber, so studying how ideas circulate in echo chambers is useful. Moreover, ideas become beliefs and beliefs often become actions, and are a number of mental health issues among males, which creates violence for society, so it's certainly prudent to research. | /r/AllPillDebate | 16/09/23 01:56 PM |
| 1 | Are men overestimating physical attraction?I'm not sure why the abstract is not enough in such a reputable journal, but I linked a number of full studies that you can read in my other comments that came to similar conclusions. There are cultural considerations and sexuality across cultures is routinely compared and contrasted. | /r/AllPillDebate | 16/09/23 11:53 AM |
| 1 | Are men overestimating physical attraction?The halo effect essentially says that when we see one positive quality, we sometimes assume there are others. It works in reverse too. When we see positive character traits in a person, they become more attractive to us. | /r/AllPillDebate | 16/09/23 02:22 AM |
| 0 | Are men overestimating physical attraction?They really do. | /r/AllPillDebate | 15/09/23 10:21 PM |
| 1 | Are men overestimating physical attraction?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selection\_bias | /r/AllPillDebate | 15/09/23 10:20 PM |
| 1 | Are men overestimating physical attraction?Of course college women are still women, but given that their prefrontal cortex isn't developed yet, it's not exactly prudent to use such a narrow focus to form a conclusion. I'm still reading through the last study, which does raise some interesting points: > Basically, it points out that if one of the partners has less value in a particular trait, this is compensated for by having another feature that is more valuable >It follows that attractiveness may be more decisive for people who have… | /r/AllPillDebate | 15/09/23 10:19 PM |
| 1 | Are men overestimating physical attraction?I had a hypothesis and conducted an experiment. This is how truth and data work. You create the variables to test your hypothesis. You are reasoning in circles. | /r/AllPillDebate | 15/09/23 10:01 PM |
| -2 | Are men overestimating physical attraction?literally the same thing but with male pictures | /r/AllPillDebate | 15/09/23 09:59 PM |
| 1 | Are men overestimating physical attraction?lol, you believe some things but not others, only when it suits your narrative. I left that comment with a whole bunch of untrue things to simply prove this point... that the truth doesn't actually matter to you | /r/AllPillDebate | 15/09/23 09:54 PM |
| 1 | Are men overestimating physical attraction?https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2009/06/study-women-more-likely-than-men-to-reject-unattractive-babies/ Well, this is certainly horrifying but not relevant to this discussion as we are talking about sexual attraction. College age women is not a really reliable sampling to make a conclusion about women overall, and your last link is a poll, not a study. | /r/AllPillDebate | 15/09/23 09:51 PM |
| 1 | Are men overestimating physical attraction?Because I was working while commenting and not being thorough? Oh, I definitely hated myself quite a bit. I have 200 self injury scars from my time living with my parents. Tried to kill myself once too. That much. But like you said, you don't believe a woman would hate herself that much. | /r/AllPillDebate | 15/09/23 09:46 PM |
| -2 | Are men overestimating physical attraction?This large 2014 study begs to differ. | /r/AllPillDebate | 15/09/23 09:44 PM |
| 1 | Are men overestimating physical attraction?Right, but women don't want to [fuck based on only looks](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2739403/) | /r/AllPillDebate | 15/09/23 09:37 PM |
| 1 | Are men overestimating physical attraction?I have a masters and work in Chicago, so I make 6 figures. My partner makes less than me. | /r/AllPillDebate | 15/09/23 09:35 PM |
| 1 | Are men overestimating physical attraction?Here are a number of studies cited in full that you can peruse that come to similar conclusions about how women's attraction works in a different way than a man's. The studies linked show the basis for the claim that women don't respond to visual stimuli as much as a man does (i.e. it's not only looks). | /r/AllPillDebate | 15/09/23 09:33 PM |
| 1 | Are men overestimating physical attraction?And that's not exactly how it happened. But you are welcome to make up whatever you want to suit your narrative. | /r/AllPillDebate | 15/09/23 09:14 PM |
| 1 | Are men overestimating physical attraction?Ok, do you happen to have any? The studies cited at the NIH concluded otherwise. | /r/AllPillDebate | 15/09/23 09:10 PM |
| 1 | Are men overestimating physical attraction?I'd be happy to explain the entire story, but you have shown lots of errors in how you reason so I'm not sure how much you would actually understand. | /r/AllPillDebate | 15/09/23 09:09 PM |
| 1 | Are men overestimating physical attraction?The literature on the topic shows that while neural pathways are the same, men and women differ in their response to visual stimuli | /r/AllPillDebate | 15/09/23 09:05 PM |
| 1 | Are men overestimating physical attraction?Wait, so am I making up that he forged it or telling the truth? You're talking in circles. | /r/AllPillDebate | 15/09/23 08:56 PM |
| 1 | Are men overestimating physical attraction?I'm so sorry you have to live a life without having many critical thinking skills and form opinions based on....no proof at all. I really do feel like life must be hard for you because of that | /r/AllPillDebate | 15/09/23 08:41 PM |
| 1 | Are men overestimating physical attraction?Nothing I say here is gonna be believed because facts don't matter to you because your own irrational thinking gets in the way. | /r/AllPillDebate | 15/09/23 08:39 PM |
| 1 | Are men overestimating physical attraction?Yup. It's ok though, I don't expect you to keep up here. | /r/AllPillDebate | 15/09/23 08:37 PM |
| 1 | Are men overestimating physical attraction?I assumed you wouldn't believe it as the truth is not something you're actually interest in. I know facts are difficult for you | /r/AllPillDebate | 15/09/23 08:35 PM |
| 0 | Are men overestimating physical attraction?Nope. But again with the believing things without proof....it's a debate sub, not a personal opinion sub. The personal attacks kinda make you seem like you don't have any actual counterpoint here. | /r/AllPillDebate | 15/09/23 08:34 PM |
| 1 | Are men overestimating physical attraction?Yup, I was raped, held financially hostage as I was the only breadwinner (he didn't work) so I was unable to leave. And he was 135 lbs and not hot at all. Even my dad said he was ugly. You assuming he was a Chad is just another example of not using actual evidence to form your conclusions. Why I picked him is simply because he wouldn't leave me alone and I had no way of leaving as he forged my name as a cosigner on student loans he took out that I'm still paying. I also had to save up for the le… | /r/AllPillDebate | 15/09/23 08:29 PM |
| 0 | Are men overestimating physical attraction?Hmm, the University of Nottingham did research into this as well and found that altruism is attractive to most people. Do you have any studies to back up your points? | /r/AllPillDebate | 15/09/23 08:23 PM |
| 1 | Are men overestimating physical attraction?This was fun. I appreciate you proving the intial point that the belief that looks are all that matter is based on cognitive distortion, which you just admitted to Here is a few links to studies from the University of Nottingham that altruism is attractive in general. But if you are not gonna use reason, facts, and the truth to form opinions, there is no point in debating you. I don't berate anti vaxers for the same reasons, they don't use reason. | /r/AllPillDebate | 15/09/23 08:20 PM |
| 0 | Are men overestimating physical attraction?Nah, as a women, to me, it's literally the things they do. More shallow women might think otherwise but they usually are not the women you wanna even talk to anyway. | /r/AllPillDebate | 15/09/23 07:09 PM |
| 1 | Are men overestimating physical attraction?Cool. You need to prove this claim. | /r/AllPillDebate | 15/09/23 06:27 PM |
| 1 | Are men overestimating physical attraction?So....your personal feelings as opposed to data or facts. Got it | /r/AllPillDebate | 15/09/23 06:27 PM |
| 1 | Are men overestimating physical attraction?Yup, and what makes women want to fuck is commonly known as personality plus looks. If you feel otherwise, you need to back that up with some research. | /r/AllPillDebate | 15/09/23 06:24 PM |
| 2 | Are men overestimating physical attraction?How is this anecdote not believable but all the other ones you cited in the red pill believable. How do you determine what us true and not based on the anecdotes you read? | /r/AllPillDebate | 15/09/23 06:22 PM |
| 1 | Are men overestimating physical attraction?That attraction is based on more than just looks. Boston University helps explain this common sense concept https://www.bu.edu/articles/2023/the-science-of-attraction-why-do-we-fall-in-love/ | /r/AllPillDebate | 15/09/23 05:39 PM |
| 1 | Are men overestimating physical attraction?I don't need research to prove water is wet. The study authors didn't have to prove something so basic. | /r/AllPillDebate | 15/09/23 05:35 PM |
| 1 | Are men overestimating physical attraction?I did prove it. You just don't believe science but can't prove why this study is wrong. It's simply an assumption at this point. You made a claim that the results (cited in the abstract) should be questions or are somehow erroneous. So....prove it. | /r/AllPillDebate | 15/09/23 05:34 PM |
| 1 | Are men overestimating physical attraction?Again, anecdotal evidence does not ever Trump research when trying to prove a hypothesis. Abstracts will explain the results of the study (and it does mention the size, you just didn't read). | /r/AllPillDebate | 15/09/23 05:31 PM |
| 1 | Are men overestimating physical attraction?I'll screenshot the study linked in the OP this evening. The abstract tells the results of the study and if you think it's methods are not up to par, you need to prove that claim. | /r/AllPillDebate | 15/09/23 05:29 PM |
| 2 | Are men overestimating physical attraction?Facts on the ground. I just got wet reading that thinking about a man doing that....and I don't know what you look like at all. I'm all tingly lol. 🔥 | /r/AllPillDebate | 15/09/23 05:28 PM |
| 0 | Are men overestimating physical attraction?Scientific research > anecdotal stories on the red pill. | /r/AllPillDebate | 15/09/23 05:24 PM |
| 1 | Are men overestimating physical attraction?And you have done nothing to even attempt to back up a single thing you say from any kind of reputable source. It's literally only your comments and you clearly are not reading....or thinking. Attraction is implied in the phrase "positive reaction" in an article about attraction. Sounds like you think you are hot but know your personality is awful so you have created the exact cognitive distortion the initial study is talking about. | /r/AllPillDebate | 15/09/23 05:23 PM |
| -1 | Are men overestimating physical attraction?Ah, fair point. Although my experience (and most of the views on this sub) has correlated to the same cognitive distortion among men. It's almost like many men think women's attraction works like theirs (i.e. based on the visuals more than other factors) | /r/AllPillDebate | 15/09/23 05:18 PM |
| 0 | Are men overestimating physical attraction?This large study says the exact opposite, that attraction is based on a range of factors https://link.springer.com/referenceworkentry/10.1007/978-3-319-28099-8_717-2#:~:text=A%20widely%20held%20idea%20is,possess%20similar%20attitudes%20and%20values. | /r/AllPillDebate | 15/09/23 05:13 PM |
| 1 | Are men overestimating physical attraction?Ok, do you have anything to back up the claim that personality and intelligence don't factor into attraction? Scientists seem to consider that idea a cognitive distortion | /r/AllPillDebate | 15/09/23 05:11 PM |
| 0 | Are men overestimating physical attraction?It seems that attraction is based on a variety of things, not just appearance. this Wikipedia article kinda starts to explain what the study verifies, that incels have some cognitive distortion in understanding how attraction works | /r/AllPillDebate | 15/09/23 05:10 PM |
| -4 | Are men overestimating physical attraction?Yes, the study is linked in the article and I linked some other studies in my edit. I'm a sapiosexual and my man is 5'7", 140 pounds, and bald and I cannot get enough of him. | /r/AllPillDebate | 15/09/23 05:03 PM |
| -1 | Are men overestimating physical attraction?Of course. this article on WebMd and reviewed by a physician explains how some people are actually attracted to intelligence Here are some additional studies https://www.psypost.org/2018/01/study-sapiosexuality-suggests-people-really-sexually-attracted-intelligence-50526 http://indianmentalhealth.com/pdf/2016/vol3-issue3/Sapiosexuality.pdf | /r/AllPillDebate | 15/09/23 04:58 PM |
| -3 | Are men overestimating physical attraction?And no, intelligence, kindness and humor are NOT attractive. They are not sexually attractive traits. They do not make women want to fuck. All they do is make a woman more or less comfortable about fucking a man she's considering fucking. Do you have a more through study to support this claim? Genuinely interested as most research doesn't seem to support that claim. | /r/AllPillDebate | 15/09/23 04:43 PM |
| 0 | Are men overestimating physical attraction?It does seem like an error in judgement/cognitive distortion. Obviously interventions only work if they are wanted unfortunately | /r/AllPillDebate | 15/09/23 04:40 PM |
| -1 | Low libido isn't realIt's a debate sub. You're supposed to source your claims | /r/AllPillDebate | 11/09/23 11:13 PM |
| 4 | Low libido isn't realAnd attraction is based on a multitude of factors. There are a million stories about how women lose their attraction to their partner when they have yo do most of the labor in the relationship/family. | /r/AllPillDebate | 11/09/23 11:12 PM |
| 1 | Tell Me What Men are saying "I am entitled to sex"?What evidence do you have to support this claim? I'd be happy to chance my position if you can prove it wrong, but since this is a debate sub and not a personal opinion sub, you have to support your claims | /r/AllPillDebate | 11/09/23 10:14 PM |
| 1 | Tell Me What Men are saying "I am entitled to sex"?Ok, do you have any information or data to support that this ~30% of women are actually just regretting consensual sex? | /r/AllPillDebate | 11/09/23 10:11 PM |
| 1 | Tell Me What Men are saying "I am entitled to sex"?Right, but that is a completely different thing than the 27% of women who have been raped. | /r/AllPillDebate | 11/09/23 10:02 PM |
| 1 | Tell Me What Men are saying "I am entitled to sex"?Well, that would be regret. Again, there is no evidence to support the claim here that this is simply just regret. | /r/AllPillDebate | 11/09/23 09:49 PM |
| 2 | Tell Me What Men are saying "I am entitled to sex"?Legally no. Consent can be revoked at any time and if that is not honored, it becomes a crime. https://www.nagylawva.com/blog/2022/02/can-someone-take-back-sexual-consent/#:~:text=In%20short%2C%20yes%2C%20someone%20can,to%20do%20anything%20you%20want. https://www.andrewslawofficellc.com/blog/2022/05/can-someone-withdraw-consent/ | /r/AllPillDebate | 11/09/23 09:38 PM |
| 2 | Tell Me What Men are saying "I am entitled to sex"?No, I cannot comment on how they were forced, but state law does not require a weapon or specific verbal threat for forced sex to be a crime. | /r/AllPillDebate | 11/09/23 09:26 PM |
| 2 | Tell Me What Men are saying "I am entitled to sex"?Could you provide some proof to back up the claim that regret sex is lumped in with rape statistics or is that your personal belief based on.... | /r/AllPillDebate | 11/09/23 09:21 PM |
| -1 | Tell Me What Men are saying "I am entitled to sex"?You can call bullshit all you want but study after study supports that statistic. Unwanted sex while unable to give consent or sex that has been forced is still considered a crime in all states even if you personally disagree with the data. | /r/AllPillDebate | 11/09/23 09:18 PM |
| 3 | Tell Me What Men are saying "I am entitled to sex"?I said "forced to have sex" which means rape. | /r/AllPillDebate | 11/09/23 09:11 PM |
| 3 | Tell Me What Men are saying "I am entitled to sex"?Dating and sex crimes are 2 different things. And 27% of women have been raped. That's almost 1 out of 3. Almost my man is 5'6" and I cannot get enough of him. https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2018/02/21/587671849/a-new-survey-finds-eighty-percent-of-women-have-experienced-sexual-harassment | /r/AllPillDebate | 11/09/23 08:59 PM |
| -1 | Tell Me What Men are saying "I am entitled to sex"?Of course most women don't force men to have sex, because you don't often hear of female entitlement when it comes to sex. I used that example to illustrate how horrifying it would be to experience what almost a 1/3 of women have experienced. 81% of women have been sexually harassed and almost a 1/3 have been raped. That's no small number https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2018/02/21/587671849/a-new-survey-finds-eighty-percent-of-women-have-experienced-sexual-harassment | /r/AllPillDebate | 11/09/23 08:56 PM |
| -1 | Tell Me What Men are saying "I am entitled to sex"?They don't say it, but the number of women who have been forced to have sex against their will or been sexually harassed kinda proves the belief that they think they are entitled to express themselves sexually when another person hasn't consented. In fact, actions speak louder than words and their actions of taking something that isn't theirs to take shows their entitlement. Also spouses do not have to have sex with each other. They should for a healthy relationship, but it's not required. If … | /r/AllPillDebate | 11/09/23 08:41 PM |
| 2 | What are your opinions on short guys in terms of attractivness?My guy is 5'8, and I am too. We can do way more sex positions than I could do with a taller man. He fits perfectly with me and I cannot get enough of him. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/23 10:48 PM |
| 10 | Is the vitriol against promiscuous women a tactic to convince women to not sleep around?This is the answer. It's about control, insecurities, and general poor attitudes towards women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/23 04:28 PM |
| 1 | Women Are Not Attracted to "Personality"You clearly won the debate here. | /r/AllPillDebate | 08/09/23 11:03 PM |
| 1 | Women Are Not Attracted to "Personality"I totally agree with you and also need intelligence to form an attraction to someone. My guy is thin, 5'8", bald, but has his PhD in philosophy from UChicago. His ideas and work ethic are super hot to me and that's why I stay with him. He's also attractive, but not gorgeous. | /r/AllPillDebate | 08/09/23 10:25 PM |
| 3 | Older childfree women are rarely miserableI've found the opposite. My mom friends who are middle aged like me all have said they are happier and less anxious. That there is something about having a kid that scratched an itch that could not be achieved any other way. My mental health is loads better after having a kid. In fact there are some studies that show that the less you menstuate, the better off you are in terms of being able to fight certain cancers. The research seems to show that location matters the most and in general, worldw… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/23 04:29 PM |
| 1 | I hate women with high body countAnd I pick people with similar experience to me. A man who hasn't explored the depths of his kinks and desires is not a man for me. I won't settle for bad sex. I won't settle for someone lower than my level either. If women haven't been choosing him, there is always a reason. Just like you, I have similar demands and expectations of my partner and I won't date beneath me. | /r/AllPillDebate | 07/09/23 12:17 PM |
| 1 | I hate women with high body countJust like how you wouldnt date someone with experience, I'm totally disgusted with men with a lack of it. The only virgin I ever gave a chance to ended up with an 21 month prison sentence after he acted....well... like he didn't know what he was doing and just did what he saw in porn which the state felt was a crime. That lack of experience ended up ruining his life. If your partner dies like mine did, you are gonna have to shift some of these more absurd requirements you have if you want to gro… | /r/AllPillDebate | 07/09/23 11:58 AM |
| 1 | I hate women with high body countBoth can absolutely be true. Sex does suck without a connection, but learning to please a partner takes some experience, just like literally everything we do takes some experience It's 💯 an insecurity to care how many partners someone had before you, especially with age. Are you gonna be 50 years old and still counting? | /r/AllPillDebate | 07/09/23 10:43 AM |
| 1 | Replicating MachinesSystems theory talks a lot about autopoesis. A self replicating system is not that different from media. | /r/AllPillDebate | 06/09/23 05:33 PM |
| 1 | I hate women with high body countNo, again with the jumping to conclusions. It's a logical fallacy and not worth a lot of my time to entertain. | /r/AllPillDebate | 06/09/23 03:26 PM |
| 1 | It's always fun to watch sluts coping hard even creativelyAgain... really looking forward to seeing your face plastered on some want ad for crimes. Get some help | /r/AllPillDebate | 06/09/23 03:04 PM |
| 1 | It's always fun to watch sluts coping hard even creativelyHoly shit bro. Good luck. | /r/AllPillDebate | 06/09/23 02:59 PM |
| 1 | It's always fun to watch sluts coping hard even creativelyhttps://www.ramapo.edu/titleix/sexual-harassment-resources/consequences-sexual-harassment/ | /r/AllPillDebate | 06/09/23 02:53 PM |
| 1 | It's always fun to watch sluts coping hard even creativelyOh it has the same effect psychologically, not expecting you to understand any of this tho | /r/AllPillDebate | 06/09/23 02:46 PM |
| 1 | It's always fun to watch sluts coping hard even creativelyhttps://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2018/02/21/587671849/a-new-survey-finds-eighty-percent-of-women-have-experienced-sexual-harassment | /r/AllPillDebate | 06/09/23 02:44 PM |
| 0 | It's always fun to watch sluts coping hard even creativelyWomen end up promiscuous mostly due to rape, so yes, they would have some issues. Perhaps if men would stop molesting children we'd have less promiscuous behavior from women | /r/AllPillDebate | 06/09/23 02:40 PM |
| 1 | It's always fun to watch sluts coping hard even creativelyIt's a criticism coming from a place of wanting a safe society. A lot of these men, statically, turn violent. Believe me, I've dated a few, mostly immigrants whom no other woman would give a chance due to the language barrier, and I learned how rejected they feel, but one has to want help to get better. | /r/AllPillDebate | 06/09/23 02:37 PM |
| 1 | It's always fun to watch sluts coping hard even creativelyThe fact that you see these valid criticisms as attacks speaks volumes. | /r/AllPillDebate | 06/09/23 02:30 PM |
| 1 | It's always fun to watch sluts coping hard even creativelyJesus wtf is wrong with you talking about a dead person like that | /r/AllPillDebate | 06/09/23 02:26 PM |
| 1 | It's always fun to watch sluts coping hard even creativelyMy husband is dead. But again....that hoop jumping. | /r/AllPillDebate | 06/09/23 02:25 PM |
| 1 | It's always fun to watch sluts coping hard even creativelyNo, not at all lol, since college. This type of hoop jumping is clearly why you are single. | /r/AllPillDebate | 06/09/23 02:21 PM |
| 1 | It's always fun to watch sluts coping hard even creativelyThe dichotomy you create in your head is really delusional | /r/AllPillDebate | 06/09/23 02:02 PM |
| 1 | It's always fun to watch sluts coping hard even creativelyYikes, you really don't know how a woman's head works during sex do you? | /r/AllPillDebate | 06/09/23 01:55 PM |
| 1 | It's always fun to watch sluts coping hard even creativelyYou might dohbt how quickly I read, but I did read it and can tell your that your woman who was a starfish was just not into you. | /r/AllPillDebate | 06/09/23 01:51 PM |
| 1 | It's always fun to watch sluts coping hard even creativelyResearch says otherwise. It's due to immaturity and more time online, which are bad for relationships https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2767063 | /r/AllPillDebate | 06/09/23 01:50 PM |
| 1 | It's always fun to watch sluts coping hard even creativelyIdk, every partner I've ever had has wanted me more because of my experience, and every secure man I know wants a woman who knows how to fuck. But if you want unethusiastic sex, by all means, fuck women who don't like to fuck. | /r/AllPillDebate | 06/09/23 01:35 PM |
| 1 | It's always fun to watch sluts coping hard even creativelyOP made a post asking why women call him mysogynistic, hence the comment. A better analogy would be asking if you want a resident or an attending to do an emergency procedure on you. Obviously you are gonna want to one with more experience to work on you at your most vulnerable. People are not things. | /r/AllPillDebate | 06/09/23 01:12 PM |
| 1 | It's always fun to watch sluts coping hard even creativelyNot all analogies are equal. This doesn't compare. I've been having sex for 26 years. I'm not keeping a spreadsheet. This is stuff teens and people without developed prefrontal cortexes do | /r/AllPillDebate | 06/09/23 12:58 PM |
| 1 | It's always fun to watch sluts coping hard even creativelyI'm sure you are used to it. Done. | /r/AllPillDebate | 06/09/23 12:00 PM |
| 1 | It's always fun to watch sluts coping hard even creativelyYes, generally I ignore people who don't improve my life. | /r/AllPillDebate | 06/09/23 11:58 AM |
| 1 | It's always fun to watch sluts coping hard even creativelyYikes. I'm not gonna debate with someone who cannot debate. You just said a VIRGIN WHO FUCKS CHADS. HOW CAN SHE BE A VIRGIN IF SHE FUCKS.... | /r/AllPillDebate | 06/09/23 11:57 AM |
| 0 | It's always fun to watch sluts coping hard even creativelyAgain, random metrics. 20 men for a 20 year old is a lot different than 20 men for a 45 year old. Also WHO THE FUCK KEEPS COUNT. Oh, insecure men do. Take a debate class. This is some low IQ shit. | /r/AllPillDebate | 06/09/23 11:54 AM |
| 1 | It's always fun to watch sluts coping hard even creativelyYou are making up random metrics Take a debate class or something | /r/AllPillDebate | 06/09/23 11:52 AM |
| 0 | It's always fun to watch sluts coping hard even creativelySome reading comprehension helps. No one said that...you are gaslighting yourself. | /r/AllPillDebate | 06/09/23 11:51 AM |
| 1 | It's always fun to watch sluts coping hard even creativelyExperience does not equal promiscuity. Science also says promiscuity is usually the result of rape or abuse, so obviously those women will be more unstable | /r/AllPillDebate | 06/09/23 11:50 AM |
| 5 | It's always fun to watch sluts coping hard even creativelyDo you hear yourself gaslighting yourself? Get some help. | /r/AllPillDebate | 06/09/23 11:46 AM |
| 1 | I hate women with high body countYup, "slut" is just another word for "I CANT GET LAID, SHE WONT FUCK ME! WHY DO WOMEN THINK IM A MYSOGYNIST" Bro, get some real help from a licensed professional. | /r/AllPillDebate | 06/09/23 10:59 AM |
| 1 | I hate women with high body countAnd it's fun to see incels and low value men think they have a shot with any woman. | /r/AllPillDebate | 06/09/23 10:52 AM |
| 1 | I hate women with high body countGood luck with that.... hope you like unfulfilled sex | /r/AllPillDebate | 06/09/23 10:50 AM |
| 1 | I hate women with high body countI'm in a long term relationship with some of the best sex of my life. My needs are met. I'm 40 years old and have lived a life and my priorities are way beyond this kinda shit. Again, it's childish. You thinking you are a prince is ONE HUNDRED PERCENT and insecurity lol. Go ahead and date a princess and see how that plays out for you... you are in for a rough time. | /r/AllPillDebate | 06/09/23 10:44 AM |
| 1 | I hate women with high body countOk, so why not just say that you are too insecure to please a woman who can also please you? Sex is allllll mental, which you just said. It's the same for a woman, she is not gonna make you happy if she doesn't like sex already, and virgins typically don't. That's why they never tried to get it on their own. Sex is just not important to them. Hope you enjoy your starfish as she lays there crying in pain from not wanting sex with you. | /r/AllPillDebate | 06/09/23 10:37 AM |
| 1 | I hate women with high body countIt's not about aggressive hunger, it's about desiring your partner enough to want to make their fantasies come true, whether that's anal or something else. No woman is gonna be enthusiastic on the first few times with someone. It's scary and it hurts and it definitely shows which men have had practice on a woman and which haven't. The latter end up tearing our labia. And I can promise you that you are gonna get much better, more pleasurable sex from a woman who knows how to make you feel like yo… | /r/AllPillDebate | 06/09/23 10:28 AM |
| 1 | I hate women with high body countBro, I'm 40 years old, have been married and lived a life. This is childish nonsense. Who the fuck is going out getting ONS expecting good sex? It always sucks without a connection....which takes time to develop. You absolutely do need some special skills to be good at sex. Do you think a woman can facefuck or have anal well on the first try? That shit takes months/years of training. | /r/AllPillDebate | 06/09/23 10:18 AM |
| 2 | I hate women with high body countAnd that's an incels typical response. You wouldn't know any different. I'm happy to have just enough experience to be told by every long term partner that it's the best sex they ever had. If a man makes it far enough to bed with me, he is gonna get my very best, things a person only learns from some experience. But I bet you have no idea what its like to have sex so good that can bring a man to tears in a woman's hair/neck. That kind of intimacy only comes from experience I'm 40 and was married… | /r/AllPillDebate | 06/09/23 10:08 AM |
| 1 | I hate women with high body countThe same guys who complain about high body count women are the same guys that complain about starfish and dead bedrooms. Low body count almost always yields little interest in sex in a LTR. | /r/AllPillDebate | 05/09/23 11:31 PM |
| 1 | In 2023, you need this level of physique to considered even marginally attractive by womenNo, like my BF is a 50 year old 5'7", bald, thin guy. But he is such a good fit with me and my life, my attraction to him is not even satisfied with sex. I just want more and more sex with him. I like his body a lot and it fits well with mine, especially in bed. | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/09/23 10:04 PM |
| 1 | In 2023, you need this level of physique to considered even marginally attractive by womenNah. I like guys who are closer to my height. They fit into my body better. We can do a wider range of positions too | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/09/23 08:22 PM |
| 1 | In 2023, you need this level of physique to considered even marginally attractive by womenMy thin guys also work out for health reasons, but they are not jacked or have big muscles. | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/09/23 06:23 PM |
| 0 | In 2023, you need this level of physique to considered even marginally attractive by womenThey do. They are more passionate with less ego, it's so much hotter. | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/09/23 06:09 PM |
| 2 | In 2023, you need this level of physique to considered even marginally attractive by womenNo, I'm pretty fit myself and work out 4 times a week with a trainer. I just dont like big muscles on guys. I'm 40 and all my partners have been on the thin side or the dad bod side, but mostly thin. I really don't like muscles, they just are not comfortable to cuddle with. I generally gravitate towards someone's mind and personality more and that's far more fulfilling. | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/09/23 05:49 PM |
| 2 | In 2023, you need this level of physique to considered even marginally attractive by womenWould never have sex with a man like that. I once dated a bodybuilder and he was just miserable to cuddle with. Not soft enough and there was no comfortable spot for me. Gimme the dad bods, shorter guys, thin guys alllll day long. They fuck better. | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/09/23 04:58 PM |
| 3 | Jobs that are dealbreakers (for me )...what about you?The other guy who was saying all the elementary ed students he knew were dumb...but all the teachers I know are smart as a whip and their kids are always really smart and cool. They are probably awesome at raising kids. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/09/23 11:43 PM |
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