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no_dating/r/seduction19/07/11 09:41 PM
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Sounds like a case of an idiotic concept of alpha. Reframe what it means to be alpha. The alpha male is not the tyrant who tears others down to be on top. The alpha male is the guy who is constantly creating value, constantly building himself up, so that tearing others down would only slow down his ascent to the heavens. He doesn't need to screw others because he has something better. People want to be around him not because they think he's better than them, but because, by being around him, the…
/r/seduction04/05/12 09:36 AM
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Wow. Ol' Gill is one depressing character.
/r/seduction04/05/12 09:21 AM
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You don't need to do anything fancy, slick, or smooth. Option 1: take the compliment, say thank you, change the subject, move forward. Option 2: something cocky like "you don't know me well enough to be saying that," join her as she laughs, change the subject, move forward. Fuck the self-deprecating bullshit. Being smart is a great quality, and any girl who is worth your time should know well enough that a guy can be smart and attractive. Take yourself for example! Now focus on making her next c…
/r/seduction04/05/12 09:16 AM
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Go easy on the formulas. Empathy and free flow are the keys to seduction.
/r/seduction19/04/12 12:05 PM
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If you feel you have to argue with people's beliefs, maybe you shouldn't be eliciting them. Don't strip a live wire if it's not in the circuit you want to access.
/r/seduction19/04/12 04:07 AM
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You're thinking within the frame of an argument or debate. This whole "facts" and "evidence" structure is great in the ivory tower or the physics department, but not in personal interactions. If someone is trying to convince you of something, that's just what's going on at the surface. Ask them what believing in X really means to them -- what need, value, or purpose does it fulfill for them? Not only do you change the subject, you go deeper. The overall theme is to AVOID DEBATE! Avoid having you…
/r/seduction18/04/12 07:07 PM
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"I'd love nothing more than to bathe in your words." "I've never felt this way before!" "You're magical..." with a dreamy look. Made me feel like this.
/r/seduction18/04/12 06:52 PM
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They understand what IOI's are and they're doing it to you on purpose. I learned that women know their signals and how to fake them when my sister demonstrated to me how she'd flirt with a cop to get out of a ticket. Remember, you're working with people who have a human level of intelligence!
/r/seduction18/04/12 06:43 PM
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Wait. Are you going to bars for some practical reason, or because you truly enjoy yourself there? Unless it's really your idea of fun, don't limit yourself to night venues. It's an expensive lifestyle, and the same women will be more willing to give you time of day outside of the night scene! Since it sounds like you haven't made a single approach yet, start small. Be friendly, curious, and outgoing. When you see someone reading a book in public, wearing a shirt with a message you like, or whate…
/r/seduction17/04/12 06:54 AM
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Can I still pick girls up during the day without being douchy Yes. Actually, I do day game exclusively, and the vibe I go for is a more sensual, less scientific Neil Degrasse Tyson.
/r/seduction17/04/12 06:04 AM
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That's funny that this guy should frame investment in this way, because it's completely wrong. Yes, women want a guy to be invested in them, but not if they're not invested as well! This is what we call "neediness." One of my major challenges in learning these skills is reliably managing a woman's investment in me while maintaining a low investment level until she's invested. This is because, as I know very well, investing prematurely TURNS GIRLS OFF! Then, the appeal to evolutionary biology: bu…
/r/seduction22/11/11 12:12 AM
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It's not all bad, if you apply a good filter. For instance, there were a lot of true, useful things, even if they were obvious: be non-threatening: not cornering women, intimidating body language, etc. "talk to me like a human being:" empathize with women -- to use lingo, calibrate show quality of character: not "AYO SHAWTAY," not telling her that you're lusting after her dope-ass legs, etc. one of them mentioned that being ambiguous is useful; she only mentioned a special case, but I didn't exp…
/r/seduction17/11/11 02:01 AM
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I had doubts at first, too, but then I realized, in the first call, you want to be the first to hang up. This shows that something else, something more important than her, needs your attention. What's the exact opposite of running out of free time and having to end the call? Asking her out right then and there. Anyway, rather than riding the keyboard about this matter, I find it much easier to get some fresh numbers and test it in the real world.
/r/seduction13/11/11 07:44 PM
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Fuck. That. Title.
/r/seduction13/11/11 07:24 PM
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Isn't it too early for her to be meeting your folks? Is it so hard to go there, talk to her a bit, let her know you're busy right now and make plans for later?
/r/seduction09/11/11 05:13 AM
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I remember one time I was approaching a girl and, before I had even introduced myself, a car passes by and someone yells "YOU'RE NOT GETTING LAID!" Pretend they were addressing someone else. Lewd comments are directed at you, like crazyfiction suggested, and undesirable comments were directed at someone else. In either case, it doesn't warrant more than one comment.
/r/seduction31/10/11 07:01 PM
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If they weren't in your social circle, then it would make sense to just accept the reality that they're blocking you. obstructed by ... girls ... part of my social circle Now, people who are in your circle are supposed to be your allies. If, when you go to a party, you're bringing people who sabotage you along for the ride, you've got a problem. Are you satisfied with having a social circle that works against you, or do you have rules and standards for how other people influence your life? If yo…
/r/seduction30/10/11 05:55 PM
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There are so many products about Asian women. They are just women. Seriously.
/r/seduction30/10/11 05:29 PM
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Somebody teach this Julien guy to express himself in a way that doesn't make him sound like a misogynist. It doesn't help the community.
/r/seduction29/10/11 10:43 PM
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Mention something you're doing, invite her to join you. How does she respond? If she responds well, she might ask to exchange numbers, or you can do it. At that point, it's like asking her to pass the salt shaker.
/r/seduction29/10/11 10:31 PM
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I wouldn't go so far as to say he did the right thing. Calibration is possibly the most important part of game, and a socially skilled guy should be able to read (and have STANDARDS for) a girl's response. He wasn't getting red lights, but he was getting something between solid orange and flashing red lights. He should have known, but as the guy of the group, OP should have been prepared to translate their signals to manspeak.
/r/seduction29/10/11 10:23 PM
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Just because he's creepy doesn't mean he can't kick your ass.
/r/seduction29/10/11 10:18 PM
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if she doesn't respond positively within say - 1 hour Then I should do something more productive with my time. I have no shortage of homework, personal projects, and skills to practice and maintain. try a little harder with someone you're interested in? I'm not a perpetual motion machine. Positive feedback keeps me going and pushes me forward. If it's not there, I move on.
/r/seduction27/10/11 09:52 AM
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You do have that. You've got a friend who is constantly operating a switch that makes you feel REGRET. Every time you pass by that sexy number who made eye contact and smiled at you and do nothing, he flips the switch.
/r/seduction27/10/11 09:39 AM
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.............. no. You learn more about a person in 5 minutes of conversation than you do in 15 minutes of watching their drinking habits.
/r/seduction26/10/11 01:02 PM
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Take this to r/philosophy. It doesn't help here, and it's not wanted.
/r/seduction26/10/11 12:48 PM
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Something about the way this is written makes it come across as being meant to limit and frustrate guys, not give solutions.
/r/seduction26/10/11 08:43 AM
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I think you should find the guru that started out in a situation closest to yours. For instance, you can give short, ugly guys credit for having effective game, but you're missing the fact that short guys aren't as physically intimidating and won't be able to offer good advice for tall guys on that aspect. I'm down with Ross because he's the same height as me, he's older, his looks aren't doing shit for him, and he's a nerd. Pick the guy who matches the real you, not your fantasy self. You're no…
/r/seduction15/10/11 06:23 PM
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Read your post. Savoy is, indeed, a goofy motherfucker. Go to upvote. See your username. Post this.
/r/seduction15/10/11 06:16 PM
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You don't NEED her number to move forward. In fact, the further you get past the "number zone," the more exchanging numbers will become an insignificant afterthought.
/r/seduction12/10/11 01:22 AM
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You were a doormat. You might THINK you look like a jerk putting a girl in her place, but you look much worse taking her shit. If she's using a false tone of voice to cover up her bullshit, you can work that into your confrontation to give you leverage. "I don't know if you're just testing me, or if you make a habit out of treating people like this, but what you're doing is disrespectful and I'm not going to take it." In all honesty, it was partly your fault for coming on with a "let's bust each…
/r/seduction11/10/11 05:06 PM
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Is "I'm going to break your heart" a shit-test? Does it matter? Look at what her little handful of words managed to set into motion in your head. She could have said "I love chocolate ice cream," and if it made you go through this same thought process, would it matter what she said or meant? Like what others have said, you're overinvested. That's why you're afraid to just flow, instead overanalyzing insignificant minutiae. Next time, say something ambiguous to her that'll get her to attach exces…
/r/seduction05/10/11 11:54 PM
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This gets you the number just fine. What I want to know is did you pick up his calls?
/r/seduction05/10/11 04:24 PM
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I think girls don't want to be bothered during the day. Dead wrong. Sarge them, they love the ego boost. HOWEVER, I don't know what kind of "pickup" you practice, but during the day, forget about this "persistence" and "make the hoe say no" crap. The last thing you want to be is pushy. Have standards and screen girls instead. You know you're willing to walk away when you do it much of the time!
/r/seduction03/10/11 02:46 PM
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Now go out and do 100 approaches as a reward. FTFY
/r/seduction30/09/11 05:51 PM
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I downvoted this for the following reasons: Kissing her too early means you can't tease her with test-kisses. This is HIGHLY DUBIOUS in day game, where you have to kino escalate to kissing.
/r/seduction30/09/11 05:48 PM
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Swastikas? Try What interesting things can I say to use as conversation starters?
/r/seduction27/09/11 02:24 PM
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Relevant. It's a combination of many factors. Being good-looking helps, but if you think of your appearance as a glider and the creepy things you do as poking a hole in it, you'll find that it's not going to take you very far. Don't confuse creepy with overt; creepiness is the degree to which you come across as a rapist.
/r/seduction27/09/11 02:19 PM
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Here's all you need to know about smiling: Never fake a smile. Don't consciously smile. Real smiles come on their own. Have you ever been talking to someone about something that you like and suddenly found yourself smiling? So long as all of your smiles are real, you should be focusing on other things.
/r/seduction29/08/11 01:56 PM
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Connect the good feelings you make her feel to your friend. For example, when you would ordinarily do a self-point, gesture toward your friend.
/r/seduction27/08/11 04:30 AM
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I go to book stores and I've only bought one book in the past 3 months. Most people go there and just READ books they're not going to buy! For supermarket sarging, shop during the afternoon or early evening and in small batches. Shop for the next few days, or the next week. If you really want to master supermarkets, shop for what you need on the day you need it!
/r/seduction21/08/11 06:06 AM
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You were asking for it with the top hat. It doesn't excuse the misbehavior, but you were attracting that kind of attention. It's a college town, so don't be surprised if some people mature more slowly than others. A tip: if your standards of behavior are above this, don't sarge drinking establishments. During the day, with people who aren't drunk, the worst you have to deal with is a girl pretending she didn't hear you... or a security guard, if you really blow it. The other side of the coin is …
/r/seduction20/08/11 09:25 AM
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Have you considered that not all sedditors are in complete agreement?
/r/seduction20/08/11 09:13 AM
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It's a flake. She can apologize all she wants. If she doesn't make some effort to reschedule, that says she doesn't WANT to reschedule. Actions speak louder than words.
/r/seduction19/08/11 08:26 AM
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Best way to reject a woman: be a nice guy! She won't feel insulted or have anything to say about it. She'll just think you suck! "Can I take you out to dinner? I'm available all of next week, when is a good night for you?" Over. Any spark of attraction in her has been grounded. Any flame of desire has been pissed on.
/r/seduction17/08/11 10:13 PM
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OP said he's a beginner. While girls listening to their ipods are sargeable, he doesn't need to be creating obstacles for himself at this point. There are plenty of women with unplugged ears out there.
/r/seduction16/08/11 07:49 PM
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Don't bother with headphones. People who listen to music in places where you sarge are not looking for social encounters. If you were to find them with open ears, then give them the time of day. The same goes for compulsive phone users -- the girl you see who ends a call then immediately calls the next person, as if by fear that she'll appear unoccupied. Something useful: don't ask for phone numbers, and definitely don't WORD it as asking. MAKE PLANS and she'll ask to trade numbers to make sure …
/r/seduction16/08/11 05:36 PM
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Starting kino late > doing nothing and texting her later
/r/seduction13/08/11 06:47 PM
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She came back to my place and we had popsicles I can't imagine myself seriously inviting a girl over for popsicles. It sounds like a blowjob proposition, and it should! I'm cracking up imagining her confused face when you opened the freezer and pulled out the real deal! She dropped you a heavy hint and you said "fuck it, I have better things to do than bang her." Next time, act in the moment.
/r/seduction12/08/11 07:15 AM
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Rather conventional. As history has shown, conventional means in this area of life pave the fast track to failure. I was disappointed to see no "test drive before you buy" step. A self-respecting man doesn't order the dish before getting a sample. On the plus side, it didn't recommend buying her crap that she'll just throw away.
/r/seduction12/08/11 07:08 AM
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It's all about how you frame it. Do you see your ordinary, run-of-the-uterus person as a mass of flaws that has to build something better to show the world? Or is your average guy, instead, an amazing guy trapped in a big turd that colors everything he does shit-brown? In the first case, being vulnerable is a death trap. Nobody would like what's on the inside of that guy. In the latter case, it's precisely being vulnerable that lets the great dude bypass the layer of shit and come out from his p…
/r/seduction12/08/11 04:36 AM
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Ross Jeffries has been talking about "vulnerability" for years. To summarize it, it's the ability to be the real you, to give others the opportunity to judge the person you really are, with no apology, no cover story, nor a macho act to protect yourself. That's the kind of strength that all of the guys you see putting on a hard act wish they could have.
/r/seduction11/08/11 07:23 PM
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Don't tell her that! You're ruining the surprise!
/r/seduction10/08/11 02:30 PM
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You ate Doritos I was at my place, eating Doritos, when, all of a sudden, I reached into the bag, and nothing could prepare me for what I saw next. What I pulled out couldn't be called an ordinary, run of the mill Dorito. This is what every Dorito dreams of growing up to be. I don't know if you can imagine what it's like, feel how it feels, to see, right in front of you, the ideal... against which you judge everything else. It was all I could do to say, "Your Highness, it was a pleasure," and en…
/r/seduction09/08/11 05:13 AM
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There is. A neg is just a cheap way of challenging a girl; a special case. Providing a challenge is much broader, and can be done without any negs.
/r/seduction07/08/11 03:18 PM
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Enough with your ugly bullshit. Yes, looks matter, and do you know what eclipses looks the way King Kong's dick overshadows 95% of Japan? GAME! The point of game is to go above and beyond looks, and for some of us, to bypass them completely. An ugly man with superb game can bone hot 20-somethings into his 50s while Prettyboy McQuarterback can be stuck with a fat nagging wife before 40. Fix up your shit-stained inner game and you can get started on the techniques. There is no such thing as a woma…
/r/seduction04/08/11 04:57 AM
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Life is a sexually transmitted disease that invariably ends in death.
/r/seduction04/08/11 04:23 AM
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Against my better judgement, yes. The fact that it's common knowledge is exactly the problem. The inadequacy of common knowledge is the purpose of this community.
/r/seduction03/08/11 09:24 PM
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At least she responded at all! Trash. This is the crap mentality that has been shafting men since before phones existed.
/r/seduction03/08/11 06:13 PM
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zombie vegetarian atheist metal band FTFY
/r/seduction03/08/11 03:36 PM
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3 years is ample time for a girl to get bored with a guy. Man up and do what you want to do.
/r/seduction03/08/11 08:08 AM
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This man is right. Appearance does count. The point of game is to go beyond it and, if necessary, bypass it. Techniques that fail to do that are therefore not game. Things like the AO put the woman in a position to make a snap judgement, and all she has to work with is your appearance and body language.
/r/seduction03/08/11 08:04 AM
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Your question is too vague.
/r/seduction03/08/11 07:50 AM
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She replied: what for? This means you didn't make a statement of intent. If you had, your intentions would be clear as day and that would be a monumentally stupid question. Getting a number works better if you set a time the next day to meet up and continue the conversation. Even better would be to structure it such that it's her idea to trade numbers.
/r/seduction03/08/11 05:21 AM
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She cares how you make her feel. If you hadn't double-posted, I would have wanted you to say that again.
/r/seduction01/08/11 06:38 AM
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No, I haven't. If you're not exaggerating, I wouldn't be surprised if he has a criminal record for it. That kind of behavior is not cool.
/r/seduction31/07/11 07:48 PM
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OK, bad news first. One, you're DATING. Dating has an awful track record, especially if you look at the lays:dollars spent ratio. Also, you have the audacity to take her on a date yet you don't even put your palm on her shoulder when you make her laugh? Something you should really know is that touching is only as big a deal as you make it. If you never touch someone, then go to touch her leg or kiss her, she will freak out. If you touch her whenever she laughs, tap her to emphasize points, and s…
/r/seduction31/07/11 11:49 AM
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That's a good question that doesn't enough attention. I'm not remarkably good-looking, so I had to answer this question, as well. If you ever find yourself both ugly and intelligent, then there is a solution for you. Start here. Most of mainstream pickup is predicated on you having good or at least average looks. For an ugly guy, direct openers are a bad idea and I've never heard of an uggo successfully running Mystery, RSD, etc. You have to come much more from a personality angle, and evoke use…
/r/seduction31/07/11 11:28 AM
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Upvoted for truth.
/r/seduction31/07/11 07:27 AM
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I cringed when he said "because." He gave a REASON why they should meet again. A street sarge isn't a science conference; reasons are almost always secondary to emotions, and he should have been spending that effort putting her into useful states that she can remember later when her phone rings and she sees his name.
/r/seduction29/07/11 06:36 AM
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I've never formally used NLP therapeutically; I do, however, use it for one-on-one conversations, where it works wonders. My mistake on the credit issue; the structure and examples were very much the kind of stuff you'd use in SS! P.S., that languaging is the set-up for the blowjob pattern.
/r/seduction29/07/11 06:14 AM
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Au contraire, NLP can and does go all the way. As ace tells you, the point of elicitation is to anchor the results. One can also program loops of thoughts and chain anchors for emotions to loop them; that's more advanced. Even if you just elicit states and move on, you're fractionating, which deepens rapport and increases compliance.
/r/seduction28/07/11 08:48 PM
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Upvote for (finally) discovering Speed Seduction. Always using a contrast can be limiting, though. As you think about that, do you ever ask yourself, what's the difference between compulsion and anticipation? Give credit where it's due, bro. Not only is this only a tiny fragment of SS, but you seem to be claiming it for yourself.
/r/seduction28/07/11 08:44 PM
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There goes my idea for bathroom stall game.
/r/seduction24/07/11 07:38 AM
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First off, this isn't such a huge handicap. Look up a video of Neil Strauss and hear how fruity he sounds! So you're not really blazing a new trail here. However, it is NOT what you say, but HOW you say it. This is the basis of seduction and all effective communication. Subtlety and implication are very powerful, but if you sound like a fruitcake, it could come across as being a gay and a bottom. Remember, gay men do sometimes flirt with women as a way of being friendly. Unless you want to becom…
/r/seduction21/07/11 04:24 AM
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An enlightening article from 1975 about how societies with bad child care and repressed sexuality suffer from more violence. A rather academic read, claims are backed up with tables of statistics and the probabilities that such correlations could be coincidence. At the end of the ride, you're faced with a powerful message: monogamy is not compatible with human nature, and its enforcement is destructive to society. Give it a read and spill your thoughts.
/r/seduction19/07/11 09:46 PM
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If you want to get flirty with her in the last week and meet with her casually afterward, when the class is no longer an issue, you'll have to keep a good impression in the meantime. Consider an overall friendliness with a hint of flirtation, as well as doing very well in the class and being social with the other students without seeming tryhard.
/r/seduction19/07/11 07:50 AM
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How do I [pick up] my comedy teacher without [failing]? That's an impossible problem. What you're asking is How do I [get reward] without [taking risk]? Now, the scenario you have in mind is a catastrophic failure, and it doesn't do you any good to think about that. However, there is no way in existence to pick up a girl without taking a risk. To elaborate, you have mentioned all of the things on your mind: i like her she is 21 years old about as old as my ex i like her i'm 19 You mentioned noth…
/r/seduction19/07/11 04:13 AM
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First off, do what puaCurveBall asked of you. I've been called creepy before. It basically means that the woman doesn't feel safe around you. In that Vin Diesel picture, he's creepy as fuck. To a man, though, he looks badass. Why would a woman not feel safe around you? You haven't built sufficient rapport to be doing what you are doing. As you direct your resources to do this, it'll eventually be something you do without conscious awareness. Mystery method will hurt, hurt, hurt you here, as it p…
/r/seduction18/07/11 11:35 PM
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Return the shoes. It's a symbolic thing. If you actually like the shoes, find a place where they're cheaper and buy them.
/r/seduction17/07/11 08:39 PM
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I'm rewriting this post. You object to the flirting thing? Knock yourself out. Seeing as how scarcity mentality was his overall problem, I'm satisfied to have diagnosed it, even if I wrote up an iffy prescription. end the relationship, which he doesn't want to do. Is this a true desire of his, or a symptom of scarcity mentality? Has he gone into his mind and set standards for himself? Under what conditions will I continue this relationship, and under what circumstances will I terminate it? Respe…
/r/seduction17/07/11 07:38 AM
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Is there something that you should be saying to me?
/r/seduction17/07/11 03:07 AM
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No. That's a low-choice solution. I can see that I worded things vaguely, so here's some interpretation. You shouldn't act, period. Act as in actor. If that doesn't help, ask anyone about congruence. she has options and you don't Ask anyone about abundance vs. scarcity mentality. Go out and flirt, collect numbers regularly, and follow up! You're on seddit.
/r/seduction17/07/11 03:07 AM
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You shouldn't act, period. How do you actually feel about this? The reason you're bothered by this is that she has options and you don't. She gets hit on all the time and she does see things in them that she can't find in you. So long as you remain invested in this one girl, this will be a threat to you. Go out and flirt, collect numbers regularly, and follow up!
/r/seduction16/07/11 10:16 PM
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I'll pitch something in: Do you have a girlfriend? A girlfriend? No.
/r/seduction15/07/11 07:38 AM
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That one is easily the best response here. I'm committing this to memory.
/r/seduction15/07/11 07:37 AM
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I'll pm you.
/r/seduction15/07/11 03:06 AM
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Don't. You fail the shit test by texting. Call her instead.
/r/seduction15/07/11 03:04 AM
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"Leave them better than you found them."
/r/seduction15/07/11 03:03 AM
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Have you ever felt absolutely connected to someone?
/r/seduction15/07/11 02:59 AM
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I use Speed Seduction. The first and foremost reason is that speaking in this manner most closely resembles the way I naturally speak about something I'm passionate about. It's right up my alley. First things first, this is not a routine. It's an extremely flexible method that is built on the pillars of inner game, outward focus, and effective learning strategies. It's most known for the use of hypnotic language patterns. I personally believe it is the BEST method there is. For me, this is exact…
/r/seduction14/07/11 05:57 PM
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I've noticed that my smile used to be effective when I was just starting to smile at people passing by. Now, I don't get smiles back or open with it. Whenever I fake a smile, they can tell, and so can I. I let smiles come on their own. These are always genuine and reflect my feelings.
/r/seduction13/07/11 04:01 AM
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Yes. It went extremely badly. Then I had an unpleasant chat with a cop. You'll learn a very valuable thing from field reports. Good-looking guys don't have to spend a lot of time establishing rapport. It is a thoroughly researched fact in psychology that people more easily trust people who are good-looking to them, especially if they have similar faces. So, if you're good-looking and approach a girl with a face similar to yours, you might get good results doing this. How often are you going to g…
/r/seduction13/07/11 03:45 AM
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I have an easier time lowering my standards when drunk. This is a bad thing because it brings out a flavor of desperation in my vibe. Alcohol isn't my friend :'( A lot of girls drink so they can act out and have a convenient excuse. If you were attracted to a girl with low social status that you'd never be seen with, "I was drunk" would be a damn nice excuse, wouldn't it?
/r/seduction12/07/11 08:51 AM
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Really? The girls go to class, immediately hide out in their dorms, and only come out when there are parties? Many people will recommend bars, clubs, parties, and other high-stimulation settings as your practice ground; if you're not bouncing off the walls, don't follow that recommendation. Join a club with lots of girls (can you dance?), or something that genuinely interests you. Talk to people as you walk around. Sit diagonally across from random people when you eat alone. DO NOT entertain peo…
/r/seduction12/07/11 06:25 AM
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People are often "not themselves" when intoxicated, so your best bet is to be as true to yourself as you can be. This does NOT mean falling back on old AFC patterns of behavior.
/r/seduction11/07/11 11:58 PM
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Here's the play-by-play analysis. I've been trying to get this girl to go out dancing Lesson learned. she's with the same guy the whole night until they close up the bar. And you didn't approach her? I try my best not to show anger I kept telling her, I'm cool, it's all good. Disingenuous. You don't express yourself honestly. Leave lying to the ladies, you should have said something that started with "hell yeah I'm angry" while demonstrating self-control. on the ride back home (worst ride ever) …
/r/seduction11/07/11 11:16 PM
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I used to get accused of being inebriated, but back then I was faking an outgoing and obnoxious personality and practicing Mystery method. I don't know if I can relate to your situation, but it's not necessarily "just the way you are."
/r/seduction11/07/11 11:00 PM
1

Neil Strauss* will like this. FTFY
/r/seduction11/07/11 10:38 PM
2

This is going to be horrendously hilarious. My image of it: Patrick Stewart voiced over by Lil Wayne as Neil Strauss Bozo the Clown as Mystery And who could forget the scene with Ross Jeffries swinging his watch and counting a girl down to blowing him?
/r/seduction11/07/11 10:34 PM
1

Congratulations, you made yourself some plans: go sarging to meet new girls!
/r/seduction11/07/11 10:03 PM
2

Ross Jeffries recently released a free set of video modules called From Buddy to Bedmate. Because she's used to you talking in boring fact language, you can't just turn around and start dropping language patterns, so he mentions a fuckload of subtle ways for you to turn the relationship into something more suitable.
/r/seduction11/07/11 08:44 PM
1

If you're using material from The Game, it's more likely than if you use something less popular and overhyped. If you're using routines, they're more likely to notice your lack of congruence or a touch of "going through the motions" than remember reading about it. All of these issues fade into irrelevance as you master the skills and make them into a part of yourself.
/r/seduction09/07/11 05:24 AM
1

Upvote this man. I don't even have nightmares about passing up sarge opportunities like that! The hardest part is usually getting her to stop and give you a chance to get her interest; after that, so long as you don't fuck up, you've got all the momentum of what came before.
/r/seduction08/07/11 05:24 AM
2

Q: What's wrong with this daygame routine? A: It's a routine. Day game doesn't respond well to routines. You have to be fully present in the moment and able to deal with the unpredictable results you'll be getting.
/r/seduction07/07/11 01:04 AM
3

pear-shaped ... plan of attack I detect a fruity, military-themed metaphor.
/r/seduction04/07/11 09:31 AM
2

First things first, people talk. That means you don't do your newbie missions in college. You don't do dumb ass challenges that you found on some pickup forum. And, for motherfuck's sake, do not use anything scripted and give Mystery a rest. How should I meet girls in college? However it happens to work. If you're eating alone, sit diagonally from a girl who is sitting alone. If you're between classes, start a minor conversation with someone walking in the same direction. Meet all of your floorm…
/r/seduction04/07/11 09:26 AM
2

You should name that voice in your head Bubba, 'cause he's fucking you in the ass!
/r/seduction04/07/11 09:04 AM
2

Yes and no. As any guy, you have existing chances with anyone up to and including your height; as a tall guy, this subset of the human population is much larger. As a short guy, you have trouble developing a presence other than pipsqueak oompa-loompa minime. As a tall guy, I have to make sure I'm not too intimidating; that my presence is that of a powerful ally, not a menacing tower of doom. tl;dr: just a different set of challenges
/r/seduction04/07/11 04:31 AM
0

Correct me if I'm wrong, but understanding body language is basically just trusting your intuition. While some people lose touch with their instincts and unconscious perceptive processes that they begin to actually need to retrain reading body language and such, it really is an intuitive process like reading a facial expression.
/r/seduction02/07/11 08:20 AM
8

I concur. There is no mention of kino at any point here. Apparently, OP never touched her until she was in his bedroom, and baited her there by bragging about his bed when he never even kissed her.
/r/seduction02/07/11 08:18 AM
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I'm not worried about women giving misleading advice. I have a well-tuned bullshit filter and, in all honesty, guys like Mystery and his followers have been giving equally misleading advice. Seddit stands to gain a lot more by including women and spreading this knowledge. It's great for PR and all of those stupid routines and stock phrases will go stale before they're up on the shelf :) Think of it as distilling the useful elements out of the sacks of crap they come in.
/r/seduction02/07/11 07:33 AM
2

it's a test because if you fall into answering it honestly she is going to get bored very quickly No, you mean YOU're so boring that she won't like the answer. Anything can be a shit test to a bad conversationalist.
/r/seduction02/07/11 12:44 AM
4

Tread carefully, sister; if you get into his pants, he's likely to cling.
/r/seduction01/07/11 09:14 PM
0

KKK girl? <:
/r/seduction01/07/11 09:27 AM
1

If you do night game it will carry over heavily to daygame Yeah, that's the problem. I'm not looking for convincing, lefty; I'm expressing an entrenched view that I've acquired through experience in this scene. Bar and club game is no good for my purposes because the environment, by design, partially or completely negates my advantageous qualities.
/r/seduction01/07/11 09:26 AM
8

Then they say "Nice try, Mystery!"
/r/seduction01/07/11 09:09 AM
10

Smile.
/r/seduction01/07/11 09:08 AM
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This is an insult, not a test. Grow some self-respect and walk away.
/r/seduction01/07/11 09:06 AM
2

I'd consider using that, minus the asking part. I imagine something like "I don't really like you either, for much. better. reasons" All while escalating.
/r/seduction01/07/11 09:05 AM
11

lol at "alpha body" This is a shit test. If you comply with her request, it doesn't matter what you show her; you're a weak little fagboy who feels he has to prove himself to rude women.
/r/seduction01/07/11 09:02 AM
2

How many times have you gotten arrested?
/r/seduction01/07/11 09:01 AM
1

I don't.
/r/seduction01/07/11 08:55 AM
7

What part of this is a shit test? If it's delivered with a bad tone, I'd simply call her on it and be ready to screen her out. If it's delivered with curiosity, then I can give a cursory run-through of some of my activities, extract a common theme, then pattern about that theme.
/r/seduction01/07/11 08:46 AM
8

LMAO! I'd crack up if I heard that, but I don't count on girls having the appropriate response.
/r/seduction01/07/11 08:45 AM
6

Great funny reframe, but this line has a short shelf life.
/r/seduction01/07/11 08:42 AM
5

Yeah. Is that all you've got to offer? This must be expressed with a willingness to immediately leave if she does anything other than qualify herself.
/r/seduction01/07/11 08:40 AM
-8

Is this the part where I'm supposed to care?
/r/seduction01/07/11 08:30 AM
3

then finish with an OKAY! a la maniere du Lil Jon
/r/seduction01/07/11 08:27 AM
8

Case 1) nothing comes of it Case 2) he attacks you. Be able to defend yourself Personally, I'd be happy to have an opportunity to beat someone's ass in self-defense.
/r/seduction01/07/11 08:23 AM
3

Set a good tone. When you talk to him, doyouspeakamileaminutewithoutabreak or do you... stop... before hammering on that one. key. point? Do you throw a bunch of surface responses at him, do you hold back your first impulses, or do you enter into a state of flow, where the words just come forth without a second thought, and you put your full emotional backing behind every sentence? Do you ever touch his arm, and use touch to add emphasis? Do you ever lightly let your fingertip slide along as you…
/r/seduction30/06/11 08:46 PM
1

It's absolutely inefficient and unreliable as a form of practice. We're in total agreement about that. I'm more willing to weather that until I find a better form of practice than to have practice encounters that don't cater to my skillset.
/r/seduction30/06/11 08:20 PM
1

it's also beneficial to be approaching other girls/guys as well, for a ton of different reasons. That's very true. I can see why the others didn't see where I was coming from; they're used to working a crowd where they can talk to the girls of their fancy later. When I see a woman I'd like to meet, I have to go for it now or never, because we both have shit to do. That's what real life is like.
/r/seduction30/06/11 07:58 PM
4

You know, I've noticed something about people who are against day game: they're always powerfully in favor of doing all of their game with drunken chicks who specifically went out to party. Something you need to realize is that most women in the world at any given time are sober and in the middle of doing something. If you do all of your practice at bars and clubs, you won't have any experience to go on once you encounter a girl who isn't in party mode and actually has things to do.
/r/seduction30/06/11 07:36 PM
13

Where do you stand in your game development? "I have a boyfriend" is kind of like ending a sentence with "nigga." It can mean a lot of things. She could be doing something as innocent as convincing herself that she's not taking baby steps toward your bed, or she could be testing your worth as a man. This was really weird to me. Then you showed it on your face, yes? Good news, you can do better. Regardless of her intentions, you showed that it only takes 4 words to mentally knock you off-balance.…
/r/seduction30/06/11 07:15 PM
3

Yes, and? Take out the [looking]. I'm talking about more than looks. That's why the concept of a 10 is absolutely tragic. There's a universe of possibilities, and you can bear to sell yourself short like that? I can't, and there's nothing silly about that. I've dated 10s. Every time I read that, I need to buy a new bullshit detector. There's no shortage of men who are ready and willing to make extravagant claims.
/r/seduction30/06/11 05:23 AM
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Then do day game, go to book stores, etc. Bars and clubs are massively overhyped. Whenever someone tells you that that's where you should go/have to go/want to go, he's just telling you about one of his limiting beliefs. Day game isn't nearly as hard as it looks initially; it just makes you confront more of your fears and false limitations.
/r/seduction30/06/11 05:12 AM
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How to get perfect 10/10 girls, a seddit tutorial Step 1: Drop acid Need I say more? Perfect 10s DO NOT EXIST. It's the stupid notion that a perfect 10 can exist that leads to the widespread idiocy about HB11s and HB12.5s. If you want a 1-n scale, the moment you start saying "she's and HBn," you're going to need a higher number for the next girl you meet that is more attractive than she was! If you ever find yourself saying a woman is a perfect 10, you are saying that in all of your future encou…
/r/seduction30/06/11 02:33 AM
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See What's with the hate for people pursuing their desires? I desire friends, connections, and brotherhood. If you reread my comment, you'll see that I left more than enough room for desiring things in addition to sex. Don't be so quick to jump to his defense. I like to think you're smart enough to know there's a big difference between "pursue your desires, whatever they may be" and "you're a virgin and an asshole if you talk to women who attract you." Act like it, danny boy.
/r/seduction30/06/11 02:24 AM
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What's with the hate for people pursuing their desires? Do you really think calling people names and demonizing approaching women you actually want to meet is going to help anyone? I'll let you in on a secret. Talking to people you're not interested in is a veiled insult. They pick up on it and, contrary to your reasoning, you're the asshole for feigning interest and wasting their time.
/r/seduction29/06/11 08:02 PM
1

The more you try to change her mind, the more you will empower her resistance. Cut her out of your life and move on.
/r/seduction29/06/11 07:58 PM
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My biggest and most recent obstacle has been not screening enough. I've wasted valuable time on insipid, unintelligent, unworthy women, only to be screened out by them! I felt like Bill Gates offering a business deal to a landscaping company and getting shot down! What I'm going to do to solve this is make a list of the qualities I desire in a woman, the qualities I require in a woman, and the qualities I will not tolerate in any woman.
/r/seduction29/06/11 07:27 AM
1

State is everything. If you're out of your element, make up a reason to leave early and do something else. Your state and frame of mind are among the most essential and overarching tools of seduction. If they are compromised, you are simply wasting your time; all of your small-chunk techniques depend on you being in the appropriate state to use them. What you described as some kinds of game being different shows your perspective. I'll let you in on something: "date game" doesn't exist; neither d…
/r/seduction28/06/11 07:15 AM
3

EDIT: I am an idiot. A freaking idiot. Glad you noticed. She liked you in the beginning, and I'm assuming you liked her. She wanted you to make a move, and that doesn't mean telling her "hey um... i kind of sort of like you." If you can talk to her for hours, talk about something emotional and get her imagination involved. Touch her to emphasize things, like when you lean on it with your voice. Test kiss whenever she's lit-up and see what she does. I'll bet you anything that her borefriend would…
/r/seduction27/06/11 05:57 PM
1

What was that? My butthurt detector just broke. How about YOU go get some inner game products from your beloved RSD?
/r/seduction26/06/11 06:45 PM
3

She's the female version of douches who talk about "alpha" all day. There's no such thing as alpha outside of the Greek alphabet; there is only what gets its intended result.
/r/seduction26/06/11 06:39 PM
1

While many have said that the idea of staying until she gets the fuck away from you is stupid, and they're right, there's something even worse. You will not reap the success these PUAs promise you unless you also have a willingness to leave if she doesn't meet your standards. "Make the hoe say no" doesn't train that; it actually destroys your ability to say no!
/r/seduction26/06/11 05:40 PM
3

Don't. That takes all the fun out of getting to know her in person. In return, I'll ask you a question. Why are you dating?
/r/seduction23/06/11 09:16 AM
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It's a complete waste of money unless you've been successful with Mystery method. RSD is based on MM and caters to the same type of guy: the good-looking white guy who just needs to get out of the damn house.
/r/seduction23/06/11 09:06 AM
5

Please tell me how to think about this differently. Stop thinking in terms of dating. This will solve every one of your problems. The massive, most destructive mistake you've made is choosing to DATE, not SEDUCE this girl. You can work out the details for yourself. Get some paper and list things that are characteristic of dating on one side and things that are characteristic of seduction on the other. See how limiting dating is? See how it gets in your way, only as much as seduction opens up new…
/r/seduction23/06/11 09:01 AM
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