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She has very clearly said she is not interested in you. So take her at her word and leave it. I don't know why people think any girl says this when they are actually interest. It is a very clear way of saying 'don't girlfriend-zone me'. If its a test in anyway, its to see if you like her as a person, in a non-sexual way, enough to hang out with her, and you don't, so move on.
/r/seduction06/02/15 09:40 PM
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This is one person on facebook. I'm pretty sure the official stance is more along the lines of MMA breeds toxic masculinity?
/r/MensRights21/08/14 04:08 PM
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Being angry about something does not equate acting on anger. If this guys post is what started all this coverage then that was a pretty big affect it had. Pretty much destroyed someone reputation and got them a lot of hate from strangers. Its another witch hunt when someone hasn't really hurt anyone. Aside from the ex. I think Reddit is so against infidelity. But I don't think it means you're 'allowed' to do anything. Aside from a swift dumping. I cringe when I hear people cheer about beatings, …
/r/MensRights20/08/14 03:36 PM
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I don't think this deserves the attention its getting. Its become way to big a deal, based on something one dude said? I think the feminists aren't going to back anything that can be called slut shaming. I think people are going to get defensive because for all we know, a lot of it is slander. We can expect some of the things said by angry ex's to be a little biased. The allegations don't hold much evidence. I guess we don't know what went on in her mind, we don't actually know for sure who she …
/r/MensRights20/08/14 02:58 PM
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but how do you know? Don't we only have his word to go on?
/r/MensRights20/08/14 02:39 PM
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I think there's nothing wrong with keeping that shit private, im never going to defend the act of revenge porn or anything. Do we actually have 'proof' of any infidelity. Angry ex's are not always the most reliable source. Isn't it pretty common at the end of an angry breakup for one party to accuse the other of cheating with their their opposite gendered friends?
/r/MensRights20/08/14 02:39 PM
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I'm sorry you seem to think I am looking through 'rose coloured glasses' if for example, I have never heard anyone claiming to be feminist saying men can't be rape, yet I have heard seen some self proclaiming feminists saying that of course men can be raped So what am I to think if I get completely conflicting views based of who gives the account? All I can do is take what evidence I uncover myself and form my own views. I think their are flaws on all fronts. and feminism is far too loosely defi…
/r/MensRights29/07/13 07:32 PM
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I think I find that here at MRs feminism is pulled apart, examined, and summarised here so often there is very little clear understanding of what it is. For that reason I don't really align myself with anything but 'equality'. I see good and bad points in the beliefs of individuals aligned with either, but there is so much diversity in the ideas of individuals grouped under that ideology that I try not to make assumptions of either. ANYWAY, what I meant to get to is that you mention that the fou…
/r/MensRights28/07/13 08:25 PM
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It makes sense. but you would have to convince many people (and the government) that paternity fraud is a rampant and widespread problem for anyone to bother investing in such procedure. I do wonder how it would affect situations where the male partner is aware they are not the father. I suppose if I'm going to play devils advocate here, many people are likely happier not knowing. There must be guys out there happy with their partner and kid, in a situation where knowing the truth would just suc…
/r/MensRights28/07/13 08:12 PM
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Obviously, the actual rape victim.
/r/MensRights27/07/13 02:41 PM
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I appreciate that perspective.. But I think its probably better to be judged on what you contribute to society. Looser, weirdo, deadbeat and nerd are all kind of expected by nerdy people, Most don't care. I sure don't mind being called a nerd or a weirdo. Those insults are so non specific.
/r/MensRights22/07/13 10:09 PM
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I'm not going to follow this logic personally. there are guys who are happy to be circumcised. Its still a weird aesthetic thing in the U.S (Here in europe its only done for medical reasons usually). I had a crazy person use the same argument on me the other day; "If you're pro-choice then you must think its ok for people to choose to molest kids" thats just wrong. They agree with what you said, and likely meant 'its hard to tell parents what to do' especially when no one thinks a kid will be th…
/r/MensRights22/07/13 07:50 PM
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It doesn't quiet fit into my view of feminism. I've been involved with local pro-choice campaigns, feminist groups have a big presence, Generally we do a lot of work to remind people how serious rape is, as we're campaigning that a victim or rape should be entitled to a termination. yeah, sorry, Im a wet blanket. When I want people to understand my involvement in Men's rights, I try to at least meet them half way and understand feminism too.
/r/MensRights22/07/13 07:43 PM
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I did see a documentary on the role of fathers once, that explain that long term relationships, and having children causes men's testosterone levels to drop. I think it makes sense. In some ways the article is like its talking about changing men against their will. I'd look at it more biologically. Men adapt to families. Our testosterone drops to help us be patient and more gentle with kids. In a way you could say it it shows that the whole "women are better with children, men can't be trusted" …
/r/MensRights22/07/13 07:38 PM
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What we consider attractive is usually what we consider healthy (and fertile). No one should ever be forced to pretend there attracted to someone their not. But same, we should not treat anyone as sub-human. their health is their business. We can't shame anyone into getting healthy. There's a reason depression and agoraphobia rates soar in the overweight.
/r/MensRights22/07/13 07:28 PM
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I think Body acceptance culture and fat culture get mixed up a lot. Fat acceptance doesn't necessarily mean anti-health, or anti-weight loss. It may be any diet (in fairness that makes sense, the diet industry is worth millions and the effects never last, No one should be yo-yo dieting whatever latest fad, when they could work casual exercise and healthier eating into everyday life.) Its a touchier subject for women cos they have no clue what their even meant to look like most the time. Women na…
/r/MensRights22/07/13 07:25 PM
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I think theres a lot more correlation than causation. I've seen plenty of tubby guys have girlfriends, but they are often guys who still go out and do things, have hobbies, and get to know girls. The really fat guys I know of, are usually that way because they don't go out, at all, they are never in a situation where they can get to know a girl, either their fat because they stay in, or they stay in because their fat. Then when your only option left for meeting people is something like OKC where…
/r/MensRights22/07/13 07:04 PM
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I would say more that women are made to take a lot more from what people think of them from their looks. And way more often if you when people want to silence a woman they choose between Fat, Ugly, or Slutty. They are like the go-to slurs, even though they sound like what angsty 12 year olds on Xbox say. I think a lot of the body pride stuff comes with good intentions. Usually in response to all that thinspo Eating disorder bullshit. I think thats good in theory, since so many women get obsessed…
/r/MensRights22/07/13 06:59 PM
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Tropes are tropes because their frequently used. I don't think a trope can exist and not have any impact of peoples views. In day to day life I have seen plenty of hot girls with overweight or unattractive guys, but very very rarely the reverse. I agree with your mostly with your point about finances. But I really don't know if it applies as strongly as you say, I've had girlfriends pretty happily spend money on me if they're earning more at the time. Likely this is because I'm only in my early …
/r/MensRights22/07/13 06:43 PM
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Thats always been my assumption too. and that would be the reason theres more people pushing for 'fat acceptance' for women. I think maybe women get judged by their appearance a bit more than men. At least in media Culture I think it happens, say, I find it weird when female politicians looks get extensive coverage, or I think tubbier male actors are in mainstream shows a lot more than women. Stupid examples even just Simpsons, Family guy, I know are cartoons, but the fat is almost meant to make…
/r/MensRights22/07/13 05:32 PM
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More like a flawed side affect of modern feminism. Goes against main ideology.
/r/MensRights21/07/13 08:49 PM
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Those 'ladies nights' are ridiculous, its against both men and women. Its acting like women are sexual objects they need to get in the door and get a bit inebriated so they can lure in men, who supposedly will pay to be in the company of such girls. Since apparently there is no reason a guy would go to a club other than to pick up girls. I think a true feminist should be avoiding those places.
/r/MensRights21/07/13 07:55 PM
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I'm sure plenty of female rape victims would have something to say about a supposed grown woman screaming "rape" like a child cos she didn't get her own way. If I were there i'd have told her calmly told her as much.
/r/MensRights21/07/13 07:51 PM
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Found an interesting blog post on this topic, made some good points. here is no fun way to be told “your favorite games aren’t very good at depicting women,” and she isn’t obligated to make it fun. ... It’s that, far too often, their(gamers) response to stories about misogyny in gaming is to circle the wagons and defend gaming from external criticism, rather than address internal ugliness. Thus: Sarkeesian criticizes video games, gamer culture harasses Sarkeesian, gamer media critcizes gamer cul…
/r/MensRights02/06/13 10:58 PM
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MR's really lacks a voice in the public and media I reckon. Just like feminism, there is such a diverse range of ideas and opinions floating around associated with the tag, too many people assume the worst. At the moment we have gender traditionalists, anti-feminist, and any random anti-women group getting mixed up with the title of Mens Rights It has to be sorted out. Possibly its just because the term isn't as widespread as it should be. I wish more of the really good organisations out there w…
/r/MensRights02/06/13 10:54 PM
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I really refuse to make as much of a fuss over this as everyone else does. I think its kind of confirming her beliefs for guys and gamers to make such a fuss. She's an internet personality, who claims to be feminist. (unfortunately thats not a club you have to sign up for and pledge to certain beliefs. Its just a bunch of individuals with different ideas that are roughly related. She is an amateur pop culture critic that likes to make videos exploring tropes involving women in different media. s…
/r/MensRights02/06/13 04:00 PM
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Im still not sure why you think you can't be friends to get a relationship with a woman. Ive never known a girl to say not to do that. Im confused about your view though, are you talking about dating and relationships, or just sex? If you just want sex, then yeah, it doesn't make sense to spend all this time to be getting to know a girl, sleep with her, and never contact her again. If your talking about relationships, which are like 70% friendship, then its kind of essential to get to know her. …
/r/MensRights31/05/13 10:24 PM
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'higher up'??? pffft, I refuse to accept that as a mainstream feminist view.
/r/MensRights31/05/13 10:20 PM
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I got with my previous gf, and my current one from being their friends. My current GF I were friends for 2 years. I think most guys I know in were at least kind of friends with the girl first, from college or a club or something. I really think bad experiences are affecting your view, possibly its the environment you're in.
/r/MensRights31/05/13 10:18 PM
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There are girls who do it deliberately. But I imagine there are some who do it out of ignorance. Some find it hard to be as upfront about it as they should, out of misguided good intentions. Sort of like people who decline to rip a bandaid off fast. If you got a girl just talk to her and stop that shit in its tracks. Like "if its not gonna happen ever just tell me now" You probably could cut contacts nicely if you just talk bout it; "hey, so you're like really cool to be around, But I kind of th…
/r/MensRights31/05/13 10:14 PM
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I always thought the point of anti-friendzone talk was more referring to the guys who rant at length about the rejection, and speak about how they deserve it because they were nice. I think its due to a sort of insecurity, that some women have been give the whole "men only want one thing" (Thank you abstinence-only education >.<) idea. Since some friendzone rants imply; "I was only nice to her to get in her pants, otherwise I wouldn't have bothered" (not all, but some). I think what they want is…
/r/MensRights31/05/13 10:06 PM
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emotions =/= 'femininity'. I meant that maybe they need to understand 'safe spaces' shouldn't be gender exclusive.
/r/MensRights29/05/13 09:04 AM
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Yes, I do, Im saying they had so much nationalist propaganda then, anyone would do anything for their country. So the white feather campaign can't be exclusively blamed on women. The generals were sending those men in, the women telling them to go, and the young men going had no idea of the horrors awaiting them.
/r/MensRights28/05/13 09:19 PM
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I was comparing,in terms of that they were done with the same moral reasoning behind it, Not the same amount of personal risk.
/r/MensRights28/05/13 09:12 PM
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I don't, I'm a really big advocate of fighting mens mental health stigma by talking. Men NOT talking is the reason for the gender difference in suicide rates. I was actually alluding to the commonplace notion that men don't feel unable to talk about their insecurities to other men. and that women are always frustratingly asking why men won't talk about their feelings to them. Feelings are insecurity are universal, depression does not discriminate by gender =/
/r/MensRights28/05/13 07:21 PM
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My dad attempted suicide when I was 16 and I was the one to find him. So since then Ive been really conscious about mental health/suicide. It actually really always upset me how he was clearly feeling so unimaginably horrible and no one knew. about two years ago my former best friend from secondary school went missing, his body was found a month later, suicide. He was in my college and we had a huge search effort, people had seen him and he seemed normal hours before he disappeared. He had only …
/r/MensRights28/05/13 06:16 PM
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Just go in and say you feel emotionally fragile and would like a safe space to talk to someone about your emotions? I'm wondering would that work?
/r/MensRights28/05/13 06:06 PM
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Isn't you making a joke out of them a bit redundant, they probably make a room to avoid all this 'persecution' by men or whatever, and then you give them hassle over it?
/r/MensRights28/05/13 06:05 PM
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I've heard this before. Theres women's only gyms too. Its something about reducing performance anxiety, and letting women work out, get sweaty, wear yoga pants. The problem here is not as much sexism, as what is going on to make women feel uncomfortable around men, to the extent that its deemed widely acceptable to have this segregation.
/r/MensRights28/05/13 06:02 PM
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I do actually kind of like they clarified individuals who "identify as women". He have segregation all all over the place, restrooms, private schools. etc etc. Does this Australian law forbid mens only restrooms? I can agree with the issue at hand if you were starting a movement for a mens only room and were being denied. Morally, yeah, we shouldn't be segregating, both genders should be comfortable with the others company. It doesn't always work out =(. I did an assignment in university on gend…
/r/MensRights28/05/13 05:51 PM
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This is a response on Cracked, that kind of expanded it, I didn't find it to be too offensive or anything
/r/MensRights28/05/13 05:43 PM
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Did you get the thread title from the Cracked Article? Basically a guy write an article with the title Being straight, white male the lowest difficulty setting there is. Discussed it around the internet, then brought it to gamers and some shit it the fan and people made some silly statements. Cracked article ensues explaining the views. Id like to see peoples responded to the points laid out it that. I personally thought it was a well thought out, well written piece. Wasn't really that offensive…
/r/MensRights28/05/13 05:41 PM
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I do point out that white feathers was come up with by army leaders and governments, and fed to the women like their duty. They swallowed it like the other poor men who went voluntarily.
/r/MensRights28/05/13 05:35 PM
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Isn't that the exact reason people enjoy being submissive in BDSM couples. Except at least those people give explicit consent first =/
/r/MensRights24/05/13 07:49 PM
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very interesting comparison there. Never thought about it like that
/r/MensRights24/05/13 07:47 PM
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Morality does apply, Because the prosecution has every opportunity to drop the case. The fact they are proceeding means they think this is morally right to do. Its not just the legal procedure thats against men, its the fact those reporting the relationship see an older male as a predator. Thats whats fucked up.
/r/MensRights24/05/13 04:50 PM
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Its not just sexist laws that cause these situations, It's sexist parents. Most of cases like this are brought forward by one kids parents not approving of their kids relationship. The reason so many boys are convicted is not because girls cases are being dropped, its because no ones even attempting to prosecute them. Far too many parents refuse to believe 'their little princess' could consent to sex, so they put all the blame on the older male. However no one seems to think teenage boys were co…
/r/MensRights24/05/13 04:49 PM
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This is ridiculous regardless of the genders. Both admitted it was a consensual relationship, the older was in no position of authority. they were close in age. True, I do think less people will push for conviction because lesbian relationships are just never deemed as threatening as heterosexual ones. Though just as with heterosexual relationships, these charges only ever seem to arise when one lot of parents has a problem with the individual their child is intimate with. These situations happe…
/r/MensRights24/05/13 04:31 PM
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It is bit judgemental to call them all lesbians, I have met plenty lesbians who have no problems with guys, live and let live and all. Though I can understand this notion. Since the majority of people (and women) fit into the typical heterosexual-monogamous category, they will spend most their life either in, or pursuing intimate male-female partnerships) and so their is a lot more goals to do with equality. I guess possibly some women are living very disconnected from men, (also possibly to do …
/r/MensRights24/05/13 04:28 PM
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They all affect each other, its pretty easy to point out ways things that are against MR are anti-women too. I'd call myself an egalitarian, personally.
/r/MensRights24/05/13 04:21 PM
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I have heard of situations where a guy was particularly pushy and women basically say yes to 'get it over with' because they actually fear they will be forced if they don't consent. Messed up I know, thinking you're forced to choose between crappy unwanted sex, and possible extreme violation. I guess its a result of the fact women keep being told all men are potential rapists.
/r/MensRights24/05/13 03:17 PM
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We've had this picture posted before, and just like that time I refer to this book (just look at the god-damn title), as a sign that this girl is totally confused/or unclear about feminism. I can only assume she is trying to refer to something people have called 'Grey Rape'- which is where you give in to pressure or coercion. In that case what the person did is not illegal but leaves you feeling uncomfortable and a bit violated.
/r/MensRights24/05/13 03:11 PM
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I think feminism is against this bullshit too. The fact it paints men as obsessed animals also treats women unfairly. It makes it that women feel like they aren't allowed to have sex drives, it states they deserve harassment if they show skin(which could be extended to be assuming rape is the result of revealing clothes), and that its up to girls to be the one to say no, to control boys by denying them sex.
/r/MensRights08/05/13 09:49 AM
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Actually Im Irish. True, I am just talking from a firsthand point of view, Ive never known anyone to be circumcised. By a thing, I guess I was really talking about a majority.
/r/MensRights30/04/13 09:40 PM
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Wow, I'm glad being on this side of the Atlantic that circumcision is not a thing. Its seriously only done if theres something wrong, like my mother tells me my brother got an infection as a baby and would have had to get circumcised if it didn't clear up with antibiotics.
/r/MensRights30/04/13 02:51 PM
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I like seeing things like this on MR. Nice to see people raising awareness and acknowledging it, without attacking anyone or arguing about it.
/r/MensRights30/04/13 02:48 PM
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These laws are ridiculous for so many reasons. I completely understand that we have an age of consent to stop adults taking advantage of young people. Bu this is not protecting anyone. Once again America is assuming no 'normal' young woman can make the choice to have sex. Did she not even factor into the trial? This small article does nothing to says it wasn't 100% consensual. But apparently teenage girls are just helpless little victims, with no sex drive, or will of their own, completely helpl…
/r/MensRights20/04/13 08:47 PM
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Did people you met say this, or is this an interpretation of feminism because of the situation? This is one I never heard of before, Im not in the US though. Im fine with feminism pushing for women-care where only women need it, like cevical smears, breast check, gynecological care, I think they screen girls for sculliosis for free too, same as I expect prostate exams or whatever we need for men. but it baffles me how heart screenings are only allowed for women. I mean how did the people putting…
/r/MensRights10/04/13 03:16 PM
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Maybe this is just an issue with the mods, rather than everyone to subscribe if this is happened often?
/r/MensRights03/04/13 01:14 PM
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How do you define it as a means? I just realized we could have completely different internal definitions. I see it mostly as a belief system, so to me your saying something like 'you have to accept that belief in women's rights in the means to such equality.' but you probably think if it as something else... so could you clarify?
/r/MensRights31/03/13 09:56 PM
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I find it easier to take seriously if you mentally replace "part of patriarchy" with "bullshit". e.g The assumption that women are naturally better caregivers is part of patriarchybullshit. See, we can all feel ok with that. I dunno. It more came across to me that its about how Feminism and MRs can co exist and are not oppositional, or out to destroy the other. In fairness I have noticed some people on here doing the same scapegoating with "teh feminism is bad" with no one quite agreeing on what…
/r/MensRights31/03/13 09:48 PM
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I think we're not as much mentioning that this hysteria, while is nearly primarily against men, is found in men too. Its almost expected for fathers to be hostile and suspicious of young men when their daughter starts dating. Ive known lots of people where both parents saw pedophilia everywhere. Thought the internet was full of people going to track you down and kidnap you if they saw you in a picture. Every dark alley could hold a rapist. I think dads just have to soldier on and take pride in b…
/r/MensRights31/03/13 09:44 PM
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Just cos you ain't seen one don't mean they don't exist, bro. Personally never had a ladyfriend disagree with me when I mention that women are favored over men in those cases.
/r/MensRights31/03/13 09:19 PM
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I see what your saying, But I would have assumed by virtue of the title feminism was a focus on womens rights. I think the list is just trying to point out its not an anti-men movement. Same as MRs shouldn't be an anti-women movement. I guess people just choose to focus on one thing at a time, doesn't mean one is more important, at worst just means its more relevant to their lives. I mean, If you or I are out marching for MRs, does that mean we're stating we think its more important, that its mo…
/r/MensRights31/03/13 09:16 PM
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Its kind of sad that no one has any hope for mature discussion. Since last I checked the most discussed link of r/feminism was A List of “Men’s Rights” Issues That Feminism Is Already Working On with the comments regularly stating that feminism and MensRights should be friends. At least its showing some respect for the movement?
/r/MensRights31/03/13 06:10 PM
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You tried /r/GenderEgalitarian ? That one could really use more trafic. I can kind of understand r/feminism not wanting to spent time trying to prove the entire movements validity, cos that would take away from their goal of having discussions within the framework. But its not very Radical IMO. The only view you need to accept is that women still need more equality, haven't seen too much fem supremacy types. TwoX is just a casual womens issue types, but can be a few rape/aduse survivors who try …
/r/MensRights31/03/13 05:59 PM
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Just saying in my experience (not everyones experience, just mine) Ive never met a self proclaimed feminist who met anything other than that criteria. Ive even had myself forced to read feminist literature, and didn't find it all that offensive. If anything it was just depressing. I guess my experiences just don't match everyones?
/r/MensRights28/03/13 10:17 PM
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Agreed. Sex positive attitudes are essential to stopping our issues with risks of rape/false rape. I mean if we look into the reasons false rape accusations happen, we find reasons such as the woman being ashamed of her actions, fearing judgement from others, and also the reason behind it that people simply don't trust a woman to make decisions about her own sexual activities. If we more supportive of the idea that women can like sex, and they can do it with who they want, when they want, its al…
/r/MensRights28/03/13 04:52 PM
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Agreed on both points. Though I can never seem to find anyone on here to agree that calling feminism 'the enemy' is kind of counter intuitive. Yes, some real shit has been done in the name of feminism, but for a lot of people they still associate it with the whole women's suffrage movement for being able to vote and the campaigns for equal rights they read about in school history books. Considering that lots of messages like this are commonplace, a lot of good hearted, pro-equality people label …
/r/MensRights28/03/13 04:43 PM
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I'm sorry if your pissed off by my 'white knighting', I call it being a human being, I can't help it if Im not a vengeful person. I give my opinion , OP doesn't have to take it. I just am a type of person to always see other peoples views. Am I only think White Knight has become the latest ultimate forum B.S. Its comparable to kids calling someone a 'taddletale'. Its putting people down for having balls to take a stand, and show a less than negative view about someone who happens to be female.
/r/MensRights27/03/13 07:29 PM
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Even feminist authors disagree with this girl. Theres plenty sex positive feminism too, at least I think so. By that I mean all the books Ive come across in my gender study adventures usually say something along the lines that slut-shaming is causing rape confusion. Because if we were more comfortable with the idea of young women being sexually active then women would feel more comfortable giving enthusiastic consent, and make it pretty clear whats going on for all involved. A better message wou…
/r/MensRights27/03/13 07:17 PM
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You can call her a 'little shit' but she did just go and abort a baby she wanted to have, for him. In her, somewhat twisted mind, she probably had an idea of playing happy families, rather than scamming him for pure profit. Kids do actually cost money. Im not saying anything you did, such as leaving her, and convincing her to abort, was wrong. That was you sorting the situation. Just don't need to be a dick about it. Wouldn't kill you to do some damage control and call up saying sorry, and end i…
/r/MensRights27/03/13 07:10 PM
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Your right to leave a relationship with a woman you don't trust. But am I the only one who feels kinda bad for her that you dropped her off after having an abortion. Lied to her and ran away. If she really wanted the kid she's be in a fragile state cos she only aborted it cos of you. Could have at least seen her inside and told her you were leaving. Maybe cos im just not the type of guy to gold a grudge. She did wrong but that seemed kinda like kicking her while she's down.
/r/MensRights27/03/13 07:04 PM
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True, most young guys can cook these days. Or at least they don't feel its anything to be proud of if they can't. I think the idea they can't is often passed on by older generations in a way. Ive noticed in people around my age group (around college finishing age) the dudes who can't cook/clean/laundry are only like that because they have a mother who never expected them to be able to, and hence never let them build that independence before they move out. So yes, We are slowly freeing ourselves …
/r/MensRights27/03/13 04:05 PM
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Personally find it less implies the latter. Thats more of an assumed meaning tacked on because it came from a feminist standpoint. You could say its more defending a mans right to contribute to the home and childcare without being called 'whipped' or 'a pussy'.
/r/MensRights26/03/13 07:08 PM
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But every dictionary definition of feminism is simply about equality. I kind of hate that people are feeling like they have to abandon the term because a small niche of radicals have views we don't agree with. I think feminism needs to be reclaimed as a word. bring it back to its routes. Have the offensive misandrists be the ones to go find their own title. Id rather say hey, im a feminist, and a mens rights advocate. Female supremacists don't represent me.
/r/MensRights26/03/13 07:05 PM
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Agreed, DIY and redecorating fall into this too. Kind of like the confusion Ive always had about some people perceiving cooking to be a women's things but when a barbecue happens, suddenly guys are taking over. As if cooking is suddenly the manliest thing ever once its outside the kitchen. I guess for some, certain jobs are done more regularly, and theremore become more monotonous, e.g vacuming, dusting, dishes. All of which I hate, gardening and car maintenance are considered hobbies for some. …
/r/MensRights26/03/13 06:59 PM
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Hell yeah, Im all for stay at home dads. My dad was pretty much one growing up. It made sense, he was a better cook and my old house needed more diy than cleaning, my mum had qualifications he didn't. But I was sick of seeing him being made to feel like less of a man for that. He became isolated and did eventually suffer from depression when we got older. This issue is really more of a gender equality issue. Too many men feel they have to work just to be accepted, and women can be made to feel t…
/r/MensRights26/03/13 06:54 PM
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are you saying that this is a non-issue because you drew a comparison faced by men(and women too actually) I as just pointing out of you have big boobs, you simply can't win. People will complain about your appearance regardless. Its not that all women only wear some clothes for 'advertising' they are practical too..
/r/MensRights26/03/13 12:29 AM
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Id like to point out most guys neglect the problem big-breasted girls face. Ive known a few and only once they explained it to me did I realise they have a really frickin hard time dressing 'appropriately'. Some even being blamed for round neck t shirts, since anything fitted drew attention to boobs, lower necklines were comfortable, but apparently drew attention to boobs. Basically the only thing not drawing attention was poorly fitted baggy high neck tops that just left them looking a lot heav…
/r/MensRights24/03/13 07:41 PM
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Slut shaming defiantly not a single gender issue in terms of who does it, its a society wide problem. Its only a women's issue in terms that women are most often victims of it. As much as we say a guy can be a slut, or looked down upon for his promiscuity, I just can't help but feel it never holds the same stigma.
/r/MensRights24/03/13 07:37 PM
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I think more so the main point of heels is the toning effect. Stand on your tip toes and your whole leg and buttocks will seem firmer, more toned.
/r/MensRights24/03/13 07:33 PM
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Thats already true in a number of studies. The most common ones being ones being on body size, where women and men are shown a scale of body womens shapes and asked to rate which size is the most attractive. Men, on average would weight a more averaged sized figure the most attractive, while women consistently average in saying an underweight figure is most attractive. The point is women are trying to ascertain what men will deem attractive and for various reasons, are actually much harsher crit…
/r/MensRights24/03/13 07:32 PM
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I dunno, Id assume he means that the majority of people who accept acknowledge the rape of men have never expressed any views that he deserved it because of dress, or where they were, or how promiscious they were. I think part of the reason prison rape is such a problem is because people have a hard time thinking of convicted criminals as people who deserve protection. Its even mentioned regularly on cop shows as incentive to get people to talk in order to stay out of prison. in that way though …
/r/MensRights23/03/13 12:04 AM
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I think part of the problem is that no one ever wants to admit that criminals are people. We really like to imagine that they are so foreign and other that we could never find ourselves committing a crime. I'm kind of serious that kids really have no idea how easy it can be to find themselves in a situation. We're telling people rape is only committed by someone evil and horrible, essentially a disney villain. Someone who jumps out of bushes and dark alleys, holding a knife to the poor helpless …
/r/MensRights22/03/13 11:49 PM
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Personally I didn't have a problem with the video for the reason that she states. She's just a pop Culture critic. In my education Ive has to encounter a lot of these. I don't always agree with their views, most of the time I don't in fact. So, these series, and this video in particular, are just an analysis these are done in Undergrad student essays all the time. They find the facts and use them as an example to draw a conclusion. You already set out with a point in mind and look for examples. …
/r/MensRights15/03/13 02:11 PM
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Its great if it didn't bother this one woman, But its really not fair for her to basically saying all other rape victims just 'bitch and moan'. Its still a traumatizing thing and people end up seriously messed up, even ptsd, as a result. Rape is Rape, saying that its not a big deal, kins of says its not worth stopping.
/r/MensRights13/03/13 10:08 PM
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This is a bit of a generalization. I think I get that 'staring' can be threatening, imagine some big dude on the subway staring you down. But really I think most guys are more subtle, they glace, and look away if the chicks looking uncomfortable about it.
/r/MensRights13/03/13 09:59 PM
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Don't really think this is a mens rights issue, This individual has a ridiculous sense of self-entitlement, and a real lack of respect for her partner. We get it.
/r/MensRights13/03/13 09:55 PM
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I know its unfair, but male drivers I know do accept the statistics do back up the assumptions insurance companies make. They did try to fix the issue here in Ireland though. You'd have thought that means making men and women's insurance meet in the middle right? No, Men still pay the same, just women have to pay as much. IMO thats just insurance companies profiting in the name of equality.
/r/MensRights13/03/13 09:53 PM
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Its actually a really interesting debate that makes sense form both sides. One one hand, yes false rape accusations do happen, We should assume suspects to be innocent until proven guilty, and then we have to think of the consequences a rape accusation has on an innocent man. On the other hand, (I don't have statistics, im guessing here) its possible actual rape is more common than false rape accusations, especially since the majority of women victims, either don't report the incident, and those…
/r/MensRights13/03/13 09:49 PM
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This is almost a womens issue too if you put the right spin on it. With the likes of abstinence education, people are taught to always regarded women as passive participants, while men are always the instigators of sexual encounters. Their telling girls they have to be the ones to say no, cos boys 'can't help themselves'. its like its impossible for a woman to actually want to have sex, especially young women. So when statutory cases come around people are still stuck in this mindset of: " Oh, w…
/r/MensRights18/01/13 06:14 PM
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on your last point, Most recently the sex positive movement has been taking off, which all claims to be feminist. Where they call for safe legalised brothels, and more female friendly porn. Im just saying, I have studied this, personally, and in college. And I find many people have their own definitions that are not at all defining parts of the movement. Im cool with feminism, my girlfriend supports it and MRs.
/r/MensRights17/01/13 11:52 PM
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See, I'm confused as I have some commenters saying 'this is what it is, this is what it must include' and others saying its just a loosesly defined term. Dude, Im just saying what Ive read, and been taught in college, and what Ive drawn from my conversations with women, and self described feminists. Im cool with it, I'm just don't believe the dismantling of feminism is essential to out Mens rights movement.
/r/MensRights17/01/13 11:50 PM
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Misandrists in general. Though it is more powerful to not acknowledge those who hate you. You have to be the better person.
/r/MensRights17/01/13 08:35 PM
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By 'official' I'm saying basically most things that aren't a blog on the back end of tumblr. I'm talking printed literature, every form of dictionary, peer edited sourced like Wikipedia. Nearly all the contemporary books these days seem to go out of the way "feminism is not hating men". Essentially, nearly all women/men are feminists. because it is an egalitarian movement. The point is people who believe in equality are Everywhere, and are not the ones jumping up and down saying 'feminism,femini…
/r/MensRights17/01/13 08:34 PM
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I disagree. All official definitions of feminism are essentially egalitarianism. and that is what I find in most actual feminists I met. yet strangely on the internet its the rads who get all the attention. In college I learned about feminism from a male lecturer, who called himself a feminist. So I'm kind of tired of people saying that these nice level-headed people can't call themselves that, when the term should be taken away from the rad fems who have taken off with their own bastardisation …
/r/MensRights17/01/13 07:49 PM
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I've often see radical feminism coming about as a result of some kind of abuse. I really don't see how any woman with a positive male role model can think like that. Its pretty common for rape victim to take on the 'I hate men' stance.
/r/MensRights17/01/13 07:39 PM
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I think its cos lots of people here basically talk about feminism being wrong, or out to get men. Which, (I know people may not agree here) at its core its not supposed to be about. My girlfriend calls herself a feminist, had me look at some of her intro books. and while they were depressing, I didn't see much I felt to be a lie, or attack on me purposely. The main ideology is actually fine in the relationship, cos she supports mens rights too. Just means I don't have to pay for dinner, buy her …
/r/MensRights17/01/13 07:36 PM
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I think I do see why this happens from my experiences with women. Admittedly, when I was doing a paid internship while in college my girlfriend started talking about how she found that strangely attractive. She's didn't want me to think she just wanted me for money, but she said she never noticed before how that feeling of security, that I'm able to support myself, was something she thinks women can be biologically made to be attracted too. So, I don't think its that women look to date well-off …
/r/MensRights17/01/13 07:20 PM
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That culture would change if more men did it. I think the decision should really just be looked at which parent earns more and can better support the family. I think a lot of dads are missing out on being more than a backseat parent. and dads who do it, are still being made uncomfortable for it by other men. Growing up, my dad did work from home, my mother worked outside the home. I definitely saw by dad becoming lonely and isolated, while all my mothers friends were people from work. I think th…
/r/MensRights09/01/13 10:59 PM
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But is its so obvious, why aren't more men staying at home to mind the kids? I'll admit its not the hardest job, nor the most super important, but I imagine it is tiring, monotonous, frustrating and with very little feeling of worth for yourself. Like most jobs I guess... Cept you don't get paid or get to leave it to go home at the end of the day...
/r/MensRights09/01/13 09:31 PM
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I don't think vengeance helps. I only think reporting is useful as a deterrent to stop the person doing it again. Obviously that depends on the case.
/r/MensRights08/01/13 10:56 PM
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Its a good point, though i believe the point of the original graphic, even though misleading, was probably to encourage more women to report their rapes. I do know of a lot of girls who were raped and didn't report them, because anything other than stranger in a dark alley becomes 'he says, she says'. So I would have some doubts, if a large number of reports were recanted, does not necessarily mean it never happened, more so that the pressure of trial was just not worth it. False rape claims are…
/r/MensRights08/01/13 02:02 PM
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Yet it is difficult to tell. Ive known a girl to cry easily, but always try to hide it for fear of being seen as "an emotionally manipulative bitch". It she could just be easier to upset. She'd had depression and sometimes negative experiences could build up and overwhelm her
/r/MensRights20/12/12 07:14 PM
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I don't think anyone should dismiss crying, especially during sexual activity. that sure doesn't sit right with me. All the things you mentioned are things you should talk about, with your clothes on, before engaging in any activity. Best consent is enthusiastic consent.
/r/MensRights20/12/12 07:11 PM
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This time of year christmas shopping is a good idea. A lot of the time it can be fun to joke about weird things you find in shops. Get talking about family and friends your buying gifts for, and a lot of girls seem to like helping out a guy who hasn't got the instinct to find bargains.
/r/seduction16/12/12 09:37 PM
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Even if it was a 17 year old female, 17 is old enough to know what their doing and to give consent. Yes I understand the abuse of power in unacceptable in teacher, that should result in being fired. I really think consent laws needs to be less black and white. Theres no reason a man should be treated differently
/r/MensRights03/12/12 06:53 PM
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I thank you for the wall of text, looks like you put a lot of thought into it. really nicely written. I suppose yes, the divide between liberalism and traditionalists is much of the point. Much of what declares itself to be 'anti-feminist' falls into the traditional category, people who write books like this. From what I've come across lots of these will say "these things are female, and are not allowed for men". I say I'd fall into a more liberal view, I get thinking, whats wrong with women tha…
/r/MensRights22/11/12 03:12 PM
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I thank you for your polite and logical approach =) Gender equality is actually something I really find interesting to talk about and I find getting mens perspectives to be really important. I tend to run most of the things I read by males to get their perspective. In fact I had feminism come up a number of times during college, mostly by male self proclaimed feminist lecturers. (Not in womens studies classes, things like sociology and media studies, and advertising). I just try to get across th…
/r/MensRights22/11/12 01:03 PM
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Fair enough to believe that, I just thought, after reading all Jessica Valenti's books I was pleasantly surprised to find a nice lack of man-hating, and seeing plenty of mens rights issues being highlighted as parallels to certain women issues. If you like I could probably send you a kindle book if you want to flick through, though I don't want to force literature on you or anything =)
/r/MensRights22/11/12 01:01 PM
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Thanks for being mature but it really sounds like you had a shit time at the hand of some so called feminists. Its not a club you register for so remember anyone can call themselves one even if their clearly oppressive views don't fit in with the official definition. Maybe I'm just lucky enough to not encounter many 'feminazis' but I grew up thinking if you support women having equal rights under the law, its feminism. shrug. I'm sorry, it just worries me that this alienation is simply going to …
/r/MensRights21/11/12 09:13 PM
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Sorry if Ive given an impression of only caring about women, and only caring about mens rights for women centered reasons. I don't, I am not very 'feminine', and I get on better with guys usually. It is perfectly possible for me to relate to men and imagine being in their position. circumcision doesn't make a difference to me but its sure as hell messed up that its forced upon boys at an age where they can't consent. I was only trying to say who can really say this is, or isn't feminism. Some re…
/r/MensRights21/11/12 09:02 PM
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I dunno, from what I've read a lot of the troubles women have are things they allowed to happen to themselves. I believe that while attempting to rise to equality status some areas will overflow beyond equality and give advantages. These need to be fixed over time. But from what I've seen, far too many people are saying "grrrr, destroy feminism" only to get the feminists panicky and push even harder. I really think mutual understanding is key to balance. I get really conflicting messages of some…
/r/MensRights21/11/12 06:52 PM
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From my experience this is not true, many women are crazy for a guy who can open up to whats called a 'feminine' side. Just these men only really do that in private.
/r/MensRights21/11/12 06:41 PM
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See, Thats the only problem I have with this subreddit. because I don't hate feminism I can't be a supporter =/. I only support it cos I generally want to be able to vote, get paid the same if I do an equal job. Be allowed to do what I wish, as opposed to if I lived in say, Saudi Arabia I don't want to exploit others either, and I think its wrong. I can't help it if sometimes the reasoning that goes along with denying female privileges is a bit person, some women have gotten a bit too used to th…
/r/MensRights21/11/12 06:30 PM
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It's interesting, I am a big supporter of equal rights. Though r/MensRights sometimes makes me feel a bit uncomfortable with being female due to all the shit some women have given guys on here. I'm especially intimidated by the very clear 'anti-feminism'. I've been reading feminist books lately and I'm finding more modern books have a much more gender equality based agenda. usually telling women how various privileges we have aren't really that great for us and how men are getting a shit deal. L…
/r/MensRights21/11/12 04:19 PM
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I dunno if its only femisnists, In fact I just finished reading a feminist book that brought up this exact point. Saying its also a feminist problem that all men are seen as almost savages while women are just pathetic little weak girls. It particularly comes up in unfair statutory rape cases where older women get off with just a slap on the wrist while men go to prison. Its saying that all boys are so pumped full of testosterone they want any sexual attention, but claims teenage girls have no s…
/r/MensRights11/11/12 11:40 PM
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I remember a ps2 game, Primal, where a young woman was battling demons to save her boyfriend
/r/MensRights09/11/12 03:06 PM
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I remember a PS2 game, Primal , where you played as a young woman battling demons to save her boyfriend
/r/MensRights09/11/12 03:03 PM
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I would tell your counsellor that your wife, my assaulting you is putting herself in a situation where she could get hurt if you have to defend yourself. I kind f believe women give away their right to not have physical force used against them if they are insistent on using it excessively against men.
/r/MensRights08/11/12 07:50 PM
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I think saying that womens clothing is so much more likely to cause rape than other factors (alcohol, being alone with rapist etc) is degrading to men. Its like saying their animals who can't control themselves is they see a bit of flesh.
/r/MensRights08/11/12 07:45 PM
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I think people just get the causation and result mixed up. Its not necessarily scantily clad girls get dressed. Just when you go to a club, or out drinking, women tend to dress a certain way, sometimes this is practical, Its frickin warm in there. If those women are in a vunerable state because of where they are, how much they drank, or because there alone, yes, they could have something happen. but do we really find that a girl in the same vulnerable position would be passed over by a rapist if…
/r/MensRights08/11/12 07:42 PM
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I reckon more so the problem that most rapists don't know they are. What should be taught is a broader definition of rape. If the education system was ever sex positive enough to actually tell girls its ok to say yes, and to be enthusiastic we could do away with notions of 'playing hard to get' and make it clearer for people to know whats going on. Also to understand the fact a girl can change her mind, and that kissing and other touching isn't consent, as she might not want to go all the way
/r/MensRights08/11/12 07:38 PM
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I understand it is confusing cos women can be dressing completely practically and people call it 'provocatively', such as, in summer. Also large breasted girls are always being accused of it, high necklines become tight and uncomfortable for them but anything low and apparently their asking for attention. Yeah, both are taught but teaching kids "don't dress that way or you may get raped" can be hard to distinguish from "you dressed like that and got raped, your fault". It causes confusion. To br…
/r/MensRights08/11/12 07:34 PM
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The man does get to voice his opinion, and I'd imagine thats going to have an affect. I mean, if the father doesn't want it and can't help abortion is more viable, same with keeping it if he wants to help and support it. it would be a factor in the decision making process.
/r/MensRights02/11/12 04:14 PM
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Ideally yes, Its complicated by the fact that if there is a still a child that has to be cared for. It exists whether or not you choose to accept responsibility. Unfortunately simplest thing is to just be safe. Also, while not ideal in all situations, don't get involved with someone who had different views to you. (e.g, doesn't want a kid yet you do, or wants a kid but you don't).
/r/MensRights02/11/12 04:10 PM
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I hate dislike being lumped with all women. I've happily told my boyfriend if we ever chose to get married a pre-nup is essential. Back to the point of the thread.In most marriages, especially when children come along things tend to get more 'traditional' even when they actively attempt to keep an equal balance. Especially with work (as the female if going to be physically incapacitated for some time, and will likely at some point be alone at home with the child. Its perfectly understandable tha…
/r/MensRights18/10/12 12:38 PM
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Id have thought she was asking due to your wording of the issue possibly. In my experience debates where you talk about women in general as a giant group are more likely to be worded one way if you don't have any close relationships with women at that point in your life. You can get a sort of 'us vs them' mentality
/r/MensRights10/09/12 09:22 AM
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Gah, Yes its a noble thing to do, put it is not mens rightful place by anymeans. This is simply down to those brave individuals who chose at the time to try and protect someone they cared about. Regardless of gender. No one should be expected to take a bullet for any random woman.
/r/MensRights26/07/12 06:03 PM
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reddit already has both r/depression and r/suicidewatch. s this subreddit much different? I think those ones are plenty theraputic
/r/MensRights22/05/12 12:55 AM
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I have the most mixed feelings about mens Rights, but I stay subscribed cos I know theres other woman like me on here. I recognise the hardships men go through and will always call out other women for acting like they deserve to be treated better than equal, even to my own mother. Though sometimes the talk on here makes me feel like I'm expected to be ashamed to be female, and especially unwelcome to the fact I'd still support feminism (just not the radical kind). Ive just always felt I am no mo…
/r/MensRights27/04/12 02:49 PM
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Being female, I'm with OP. I want equality, not priority. I just can't see this apparent fundamental difference between men and women. This gender based treatment just doesn't occur in my head so I won't get why people would push it. Especially the fact she didn't just chalk it up to old social conventions. She actually believed what she said and that disgusts me a little.
/r/MensRights26/04/12 01:35 PM
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Why can't this supposed wage gap be taken as an indicator that women need to have the guts go into more diverse industries, Engineering, IT, Science etc
/r/MensRights16/04/12 02:57 PM
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Never feel shamed to cry. Studies actually have shown that people can respond better to a man crying than women. Being female I would hate to cry in front of anyone, It would be assumed im just over sensitive, or doing it to gain sympathy. When men cry its often seen as something genuine and a really brave display of emotion.
/r/MensRights26/02/12 08:22 PM
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I will never see why girls are so weird about that, majority of other countries, like here in europe, NO ONE is circumcised, its pretty rare and usually only medical reasons.
/r/MensRights14/12/11 11:10 AM
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Yeah, I saw it a few days ago on 2XC
/r/MensRights22/11/11 04:24 PM
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Anyone else think posting the video is not really a Mens Rights issue.... Its kind of a 'women say this stupid thing' issue. Yeah, childminding is not the most difficult job on the planet but someones gotta do it.
/r/MensRights12/11/11 06:05 PM
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I would guess one reason for this is that they felt men are harder to shop for. Stores cater a lot more for female gifts than male IMO. A lot of guys I know just end up with a new razor each year. We all strive for equal rights between both genders, but I don't think society can ever be completely gender neutral. Its particularly difficult as some groups claim its sexist to only hang out with your own gender, and then over on AskReddit boyfriends and girlfriends are always asking about their SO …
/r/MensRights10/11/11 08:19 PM
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I see the point, teaching teens not be be abused, theres nothing wrong with that. and the website does mention abuse in same sex relationships. But yeah, its all kind of redundant without having some info on female abuse, especially as that may be a lot harder to recognize. edit: after looking closely through some faq's I did fine one mention of a hotline and an organisation for male victims. still pretty hard to find and its surrounded by questions about male abusers. I'll admit the text conten…
/r/MensRights22/10/11 08:27 PM
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As a woman, there is always a mentality pushed on us that rape is a possibility. We are wary of it in the same way that a man may be weary of being mugged, or attacked. Its not just women I think, men have told me to be careful for the same reason.
/r/MensRights23/09/11 09:22 PM
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I've already seen this list posted and discussed on women's subreddits a long time ago.
/r/MensRights13/09/11 03:33 PM
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Reading the comments, the majority call her abusive for hitting him... in my experience 2X has never encouraged that kind of treatment of men
/r/MensRights10/09/11 12:45 PM
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I frequent 2x fairly often and they seem to be plenty pro-mens rights. It focuses on women's issues but men are welcome to give opinions, ask questions etc. but they seem very happy to see both genders sides of any argument
/r/MensRights05/09/11 06:17 PM
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the womens pill can fail fairly easily with human error taken into account. Being too late taking one pill can leave you at risk for the next week. The statistics are based on perfect use, taking the thing at the exact same time everyday. Anyone with a busy life cannot guarantee that they will be in the same place to take that pill every day, and carrying them around risks loosing them. It seems like an easy thing to remember but women who are taking it for years and not having regular sex can e…
/r/MensRights08/08/11 01:06 PM
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The BBC once did an interesting Documentry on the roles of fathers in children's development. One thing they said that could account for this result is that apparently women's instincts encourage them to care and help the child, but they are less likely to challenge them because if it, instead doing things for their children. Fathers are more likely to introduce new concepts children are unfamiliar with, use more complicated language, therefore encouraging them to use their brain more. Source: h…
/r/MensRights04/08/11 04:20 PM
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I'd think if your going to marry a woman, you'd want to share at least some opinions, or at least see each others point of view. If a woman were to still demand diamonds,after explaining your feelings and the fact of the matter then maybe you aren't so compatible. I'm personally not the jewelry type though so I wouldn't even ask for a ring, let alone diamonds
/r/MensRights14/06/11 01:23 PM
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I always find it odd that in America circumcision is just so normal. here in Ireland, UK and rest of Europe its extremely rare. Ive think I once heard of someone having it done because of some sort of infection but thats it. Your born with it, it has a purpose. Why cut it off? I read somewhere that the practice was only carried on by Christians who wanted to stop little boys playing with themselves.
/r/MensRights19/05/11 09:01 AM
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As a girl, I agree that its not an excuse, but personally I don't mind myself to have any surge in mood swings around this time, Only reason I might get snappy is if I have bad cramps. Does being in a lot of pain give me a good reason for being less patient?
/r/MensRights05/05/11 10:30 PM
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hey, I'd female and I do find it a little depressing that the term feminism has come to this, something seen has outdated and ridiculous. I subscribe to mens rights because I'm interested and I feel if both genders are to be equal then mens issues such as childcare and false rape allegation you speak of, have to be given attention. True, if a man and a women do the same job, with same skill and performance, obviously pay should be equal, I don't think women should have a raise handed to them bec…
/r/MensRights28/03/11 03:13 PM
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