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No. Was there, done that, not again.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 02:40 PM
4

My first ever relationships were like that, "just take it". Spend almost a year on this soul-crushing bullshit, had to cut it down in the end. And promised myself that I'd better stay single than go for a girl that doesn't meet all of my standards. Took me quite a time to meet one, but I never had bad experience since that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 10:49 AM
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Why waste you time on a girl that won't give you anything if you can use said time for something better?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 10:31 AM
2

You won't get physical and emotional affection from a girl who isn't interested in you enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 10:28 AM
5

It's just sunk cost fallacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 10:22 AM
8

No sane guy will go for a girl who "just showing up". It's same as rejection for me, girl clearly show that she isn't that interested in you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 10:15 AM
0

It's better than be in shitty relationships that suck your life out. At least you can try to find somebody else when you're alone. One of the reasons why a lot of women behave in shitty way is because a lot of men don't have standards and allow women to treat them bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 08:03 AM
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You take it far too serious. If dating with that woman isn't fun then she isn't good for you and you should move on. It's better than wasting your time on suffering and you have a chance that next girl will be normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 06:06 AM
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It's a non-issue, unless girl treat it as some sort of treasure. Then such princess can just sit in her tower and continue waiting for some idiot. And it's possible that girl might think that being a virgin is an excuse for being lazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 03:23 AM
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Life isn't a highschool.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 05:18 PM
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If you are short you can't get respect based on your physique. Then get respect based on something else.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 05:13 PM
3

If you want nothing but to orgasm then you just use your hand. Sex isn't about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 02:52 PM
2

have you ever heard a guy suddenly liking a girl because she was good in bed? Yes. It's me.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 02:00 PM
1

But it's true. If you have problem that you think is serious then you try and do something about it. Or at least you'll try. And if you don't do anything then it isn't a problem or it isn't that serious. I'm just tired from all childish nonsense that a lot of those self-proclaimed "men" spread. You have problem - you solve it, nobody else will do it for you. UPD: One of those so called "men" few days ago proclaimed that men don't have control over their own behavior while being horny and must pu…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 01:53 PM
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No difference. I treat my wife as equal, wouldn't want to go with somebody who I don't see this way. I'd say it would be good. And I used to do all housework back when I was single.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 10:57 AM
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Wrong analogy. And poor people are trying not to be poor by working, it just mean they don't success. Not getting success and not trying are different things. I'd understand if statistics was "45% of single men are trying to approach women but not getting success no matter what". Then we have problem that need solving.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 09:46 AM
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There's another statistics that say that at least half of those young men don't approach women. Which means that they don't have problem with being single, otherwise they would try something.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 04:40 AM
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Femboys are extreme, you know. I've seen feminine looking guys having girlfriends, relationships and everything. Back in my early 20s I was one of those guys and I had enough attention from girls. Murrica just have totally insane ideas about this kind of stuff. Chad Ok, I understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 06:45 PM
3

Vast majority of men never set foot into gym. For those who do that with goal of "getting pussy" it's just a way to avoid approaching women. They go to gym, lift weights and wait until they get "perfect body" so they finally can go and say "hi!". Which never happen because perfection cannot be achieved.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 06:12 PM
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feminine men are obviously not getting into any relationships Why? What exactly forbids them from being confident and behave like a man? Masculinity isn't about muscles but about behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 06:06 PM
1

It's a different kind of transaction I'd say. It's more about "I'll stay with you until X and Y are true", but not "I give you X, you give me Y in exchange".
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 11:10 AM
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I forced myself to watch video, so my brain still hurts. Guy approach girl, ask her something, she answers that she's busy and online and guy just left. If oversensitive zoomers can't handle simplest social interaction during daylight in place where other people are then it's their dumb problems. I assume that girl grew up in some sort of gated community, never interacted with stranger and have low social skills. World is full of strangers.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 02:55 PM
1

Article complains about long-term consequences for economics, not for women.
/r/AllPillDebate07/10/23 10:14 AM
1

If men who can't get women and fine with simulation stop hitting on women then it's good in my book.
/r/AllPillDebate07/10/23 10:02 AM
4

Can't say for another men, but for me it always seems like a bad deal. So I tried to avoid it as much as I can.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 03:25 AM
1

I'd buy one to do all my chores for me. Cheapest version would be good enough for robot maid. And put Ram cosplay on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/23 06:09 AM
3

Your goal isn't to hit on random women. But to do same activity and check if you get mutual sympathy with somebody. Then you can approach her. It's basics.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 01:25 PM
2

At school, yes. They did help me when I had problems dealing with boys who tried to bully me. I could stand up for myself, but there were more than one of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 09:59 AM
3

Porn is too boring to watch, so free access to it isn't a problem for most men. Same is going to happen with AI.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 05:10 AM
3

If man seriously decide to go for AI "girlfriend" then he isn't a good man. It's easy as that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 03:48 AM
5

Nothing bad will happen with you if you won't make you dick wet for a while.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 03:20 AM
5

Struggles are temporary, you don't put too much importance into it, you learn and you do it better and then you success. Those people aren't doing any of that and their struggles are permanent.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 03:19 AM
3

Can you please keep this "gene" bullshit out of my eyes?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 03:18 AM
5

Nope. Too many annoying and useless guys hitting on women. Once you give them AI "girlfriends" they'll stop doing that. So only men who need actual person to be their partner continue doing that. It's easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 07:14 PM
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It will make everything easier for so called "average men" because they won't need to prove that they aren't one of those annoying and useless guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 06:49 PM
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I don't really see problems there too. If all those horrible men find their happiness with AI "girlfriends" it will only mean easier life for everybody else. Half-decent men wouldn't need to prove that they aren't one of "those guys". There won't be need in all those filters that women use all the time, "those men" will filter themselves out. And pay for that from their own pockets. Of course they have option to stop being undisciplined and self-indulged cowards.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 06:17 PM
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But you can control your own horniness, or at least how it expressed, using thing called "willpower". Everybody supposed to have it and having strong will seen as attractive trait. While having weak will is universally seen as unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 05:20 PM
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Too selective you end up alone. Always thought that it's better be alone than deal with bullshit. Had to cut few friends because of that at some point. Now I think that a lot of men have too much tolerance to shitty behavior in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 12:51 PM
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They can just use same standards as for male friends. You won't put up with shitty behavior from your friends, so you shouldn't do the same with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 10:30 AM
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They can just not date shitty women. It's always an option. Staying single until you find somebody nice is an option too. Looks like a lot of so called "men" see themselves as nothing but toys in hands of fate.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 06:28 AM
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You shouldn't use social media in the first place. It's shit that makes money from making you feel like shit. On top of that there's difference between liking some sort of viral post that created exactly with purpose to be viewed and acting in that way with actual person.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 03:23 AM
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Men already told not to rape or kill, you'll go to jail for that, and for long time. Your entire life will be destroyed on top of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 03:16 AM
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What other men do isn't really my business, nobody will pay me for policing them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 03:13 AM
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I'd threat her as equal. I don't need neither queens, nor toxicity in my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 05:20 PM
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I wouldn't because it isn't possible. I'd created app that allows you to find good places to socialize. If I still need to create such app then it should cost money upfront from both genders and heavily moderated.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 02:21 PM
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You should use them as an example and stop putting up with shitty behavior from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 02:18 PM
1

Men just become more confident and experienced. If you somehow managed to reach same level of confidence in your 20s then you'll have more success in that age than in your 30s. Women in 20s have more free time, less demands, can easily tolerate and deal with things that they won't tolerate in your 30s.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 10:18 AM
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If you're dealing with woman that dumb enough to try to lock you down then it's your own fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 10:13 AM
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Yes, it's neccessary. You don't choose between N options, you choose between what you have now versus what you might have in the future. There's no way to go back on previous option if your next option is worse. And there's time constrain on top of that. Your potential partner in same position. Once you both made decision - you won't go for somebody else even if better option appear. So you don't really compete with anybody.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 04:43 AM
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No. Dating pool is always shrinking while you age. So your choice is going down. In same time your understanding how to deal with girls become better and better, so amount of girls you have chances with is growing. At some point it creates illusion that your choice is going up, but that's just illusion. Shrinking dating pool will catch you at some point.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 03:54 AM
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Because there's no competition. I didn't lined up girls to choose who I'm going for.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 03:51 AM
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I have no idea why did you bring victorian era there.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 05:34 PM
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It is niche things for strange people. And it will stay this way no matter what. There are a lot of reasons there, but the most important is that internet can't transmit anything that makes people attracted to each other. And it will never do. I did use it at some point, had less success than IRL. Despite being far from social guy. You can't transfer "this guy feels nice and safe" feeling through internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 01:39 PM
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They can have free sex whenever. They can't because women's sexuality work in different way.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 12:03 PM
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Marriage supposed to be life-long commitment. So guy who had been married isn't that good of a partner except if he's a widower.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 11:23 AM
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Assume that it's true at least in some way, women can smell desperation for a very long distance and your look and status can't beat it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 11:17 AM
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Women love to talk, it's really important for them. So between some mediocre guy and AI "boyfriend" they'll chose AI and stay single.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 09:08 AM
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"AI boyfriend" can be more interesting to talk with than most men. And that's a threat that some men just don't recognize.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 05:23 AM
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It means that for some men women can be reduced to talking roombas with onahole.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 02:34 AM
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Most of what you write assume that women don't have agency and are some sort of mindless toys. But they known that if guy is smooth-talker and looks perfectly confident the he most likely is a player and going with him is a bad idea. So need to be in some sort of sweet spot where guy isn't total creep but still not that confident. Some level of social awkwardness will always be here. Guy who most likely commit won't have that much experience with approaching women anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 03:08 PM
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Been there, experienced that. Just said that I'm not interested and she left.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 03:00 PM
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I haven't seen or experienced any of that. From my experience you usually get short burst of confidence once you decided to approach a woman. I think that to get reaction like that you should have zero social skills (like you barely communicated with another human your entire life) or totally ignore woman you're trying to approach, focusing only on yourself. And women experience same problems, like lack of social skills, social awkwardness and regrets about missed opportunities.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 02:54 PM
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There's that guy, son of that Titanic submarine guy. Dude is rich, especially now. He can't find a girl who would be interested in him.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 02:41 PM
2

They say that it's universal scale and all women like same things.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 11:45 AM
3

No, they just reinvent the wheel once again, give it different name and call it "new".
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 07:09 AM
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Yes, they do. It's was called "casual dating" back in the days.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 07:06 AM
3

For different women selection criteria are different. You might be in "top 20%" for some of them, but in "bottom 80%" for others. So your goal is to find those who see your traits attractive and not bother with everybody else.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 03:25 AM
1

It's nice when "biological facts" align with your fantasies that good.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 03:06 AM
0

Entitlement usually ends after painful contact with reality. Girl can be entitled as much as she wants, but such behavior will cause problems once she decide to find decent guy. So normal girls understand that and don't let this shit in their heads.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 05:53 PM
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It can be easily staged too, like most of those viral videos. Otherwise I have no idea how retarded somebody should be to approach a girl who is openly filming.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 03:04 PM
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Why do you care about some dumb staged tiktok crap? How exactly guy managed get on the video, who filmed it?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 12:20 PM
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It's just one of those cherry-picked pseudo-science thing that sounds smart. Used to sell RP crap to young men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 07:57 AM
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She'll never have time for you. So why bother. And if you want to start a family then you'll want your own kids, and not somebody's else.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 07:44 AM
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Why? You managed to find one girl somehow. So you can use same knowledge and experience to find another. It will be easier next time.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 03:14 AM
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Women have no way to know if you have experience or not, unless you don't have confidence or tell them directly. And you both have to spend some time to get used to each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 08:08 PM
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If you think this way then it's too early for you to even think about girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 07:42 PM
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If you think so. It did work for me at least, just like I expected. It isn't a competition and nobody will give you score and place in tournament table, you know.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 07:41 PM
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Because sex is easy. What you need is willingness to make other person to feel good and some knowledge how body works.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 06:40 PM
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All necessary female anatomy is described in related books including best ways to use it. If dude isn't some sort of insensitive idiot then he might know it better than you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 03:13 PM
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Sex is one of those areas where it's possible. Sex isn't a rocket science and it isn't hard to be good at it even without real experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 03:00 PM
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Your assumption that sex is the most important things for guys to have is wrong. Guys want sex, it doesn't mean that they have obligation to look for it no matter what. People want a lot of things, doesn't mean that they're going to dedicate themselves to that or even lift a finger if it isn't a priority. Even is that thing is freely available. I'd say that if sex is freely available then it's a reason not to look for it. It's freely available, so you can get it when you want if you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 10:10 AM
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It's always fun to watch.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 08:39 AM
5

Yes. Being introverted nerd at some point I had no other choice but to start organizing those events all by myself with those few people I knew in some degree. It worked really well.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 07:13 AM
4

But entire idea that if you didn't have sex then something is very wrong with you has no connection with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 07:06 AM
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TRP guys go exactly for that kind of women. So it become self-fulfilling prophecy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 07:04 AM
0

Things are slightly more complicated than that in real world.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 03:28 AM
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What you described isn't even remotely close to being "sex positive". It sounds like sex is the most important thing in the world and you have obligation to seek it no matter what as soon as you have physical capacity to have it. And if you don't see it this way then you're defective in one way or another. Not "sex positive", but "sex obsessive".
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 03:26 AM
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Man can just behave in a way that won't rise this question. Sex isn't a rocket science anyway. And there might be countless reasons that aren't you being unattractive on undesirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 03:20 AM
1

You assume that all men will jump on every opportunity that might lead them to sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 03:07 AM
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In your 20s you just didn't figure out women and how to behave around them, lack confidence and so on. At some point you do that and things starting to work.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 02:58 AM
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Girl who became my wife jumped in my bed after few dates despite that she used to date guys for months for exact same reasons. So I assume it works both ways. UPD: And I always had things to do in my life so I have better use of my time than wasting it on dating girl who doesn't sleep with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 02:47 AM
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Personally I don't think that looking specially for some specific kind of relationships is a good idea. You won't behave in your natural way and attract wrong kind of girls. It's better to just try it with different girls until something work.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 01:12 PM
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Never meet those people, not sure that they aren't a myth.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 07:53 AM
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They can be attracted as much as they want, but there's no reason for men to stay with them if there are other women who won't waste your time.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 07:47 AM
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There are other women that aren't shy or conservative.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 07:36 AM
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That's their problems. Who in his right mind choose woman that need weeks or months of dating if there are women who sleep with you on first few dates? And my experience is exactly the same - if woman didn't sleep with me on first few dates then I have no chances with her. Tested it twice, wasted almost a year of my life on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 07:29 AM
10

Then you should avoid cars like plague at very least.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 05:46 PM
1

But after getting dishonest answer man will continue asking her out thinking that she said "yes" while she mean "no". Which isn't helping anybody. No problem with giving false answer to those shady and violent types of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 05:37 PM
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Testing a man is a very bad idea, sign that she isn't good for you and it's better to leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 02:56 PM
1

It isn't things that I look in women, I just can't feel connection without that by some reasons. And my requirements always were above those basic things, like she must share at least some of my interests and like sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 02:53 PM
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No, because I won't be able to get close enough to her and will lose all interest soon enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 08:25 AM
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It isn't. Because you aren't a woman and you don't know and have no way to know how they will see you. Even outside of dating difference between how you see yourself and how others see you might be enormous.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 11:05 AM
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But how can you know your own "SVM" if you aren't trying to find somebody? Only way to measure it is to go out and check what can you get. Assume that "SMV" is real.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 10:50 AM
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A lot of men aren't that interested in dating and just looking for excuses to not to do that. Because there's expectation and pressure on men to not to be single and initiate everything all the time. And easiest way to deal with that is to find a reason why it's impossible. Instead of just admitting that you aren't that interested or just can't be bothered.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 10:23 AM
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Cold approach is different thing, it's all about handling rejections because you'll get a lot of them. Been there, done that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 07:28 AM
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Then it isn't really faking. You'd fake it if you constantly think "what confident person would say" and act like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 06:05 AM
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None, because you can't fake confidence. But confidence is a spectrum, you can be more or less confident.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 05:04 AM
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It isn't damaging anybody, it's just annoying as hell. Don't like a guy? Say it directly and go your way.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 04:58 AM
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Rape is a crime, so I need court verdict.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 10:16 AM
3

It works if you have interest in any that and/or there are women who share your interests. If not then you have to force yourself into something that you have no real interest in.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 05:23 AM
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If you invested your time into getting to know somebody and then got rejected then it will be painful no matter what. But if you don't invest your time into somebody early on and just see them as girls that you might have chance with then rejection is nothing, you'll forget her name few minutes after anyway. Can't have a cake and eat it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 03:03 AM
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Of course somebody else exist. If you managed to get one girl to date you then you'll be able to find another. Anyway, if girl you're trying to date isn't really interested in you then you just waste your time for nothing. Even worse, you might end in worse situation than before, in "relationships" that cost you a lot and aren't satisfying. So staying single will be better in that case. On top of that desperation like "I might not be able to find anybody else" makes you unattractive just by itse…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 08:32 AM
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It definitely is. But you can kind of bypass it by not tolerating bullshit and waiting. Girl is interested in you or not, if she doesn't want to jump in your bed after first or two weeks then she isn't interested and you go for somebody else.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 07:34 AM
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But then you'll stop taking relationships too serious too. And your tolerance towards women bullshit and "game" will be non-existing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 07:18 AM
1

The top reasons for not approaching women were a fear of rejection and a fear of social consequences. These fears have always existed. They are timeless. As a man it is normal to feel them. I assume that it isn't normal anymore. Domestic violence was normal too for a very long time. So you can't expect men to take those risks anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 07:12 AM
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I assume that they aren't that interested. Women and sex aren't the most important thing in the life anyway. Dating is annoying, only worth it's efforts if you don't have to chase anybody.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 07:09 AM
1

Because they're dumb and useless.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 06:57 AM
11

Not RP but fact that you wasted a lot of time believing in nonsense is annoying.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 05:01 PM
1

Found both in same time long time ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 05:46 PM
1

I identified myself as an incel for about 5 minutes until I asked myself a few questions like "when did you asked a girl out last time" and "did you ever asked girl to have sex with you". So I decided not to call myself "an incel" until I test all of my options,
/r/ExRedPill22/09/23 01:48 PM
1

Most people don't use OLD. It sucks and can't transfer anything what makes man attractive. Internet is useful to find new people to meet, but everything beyond that should be IRL.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 09:07 AM
1

And then you'll get dead bedroom because those who decided to put up with this bullshit are those who aren't that interested in sex in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 03:21 AM
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It isn't. If you put bar slightly higher then it will leave a lot of men below it. Not everybody can have good career as an example, it's competitive and there will be losers, a lot of them no matter what. Most men can pass this bar of course, but those who can't usually end in online dating services. So of course there are more of them there. UPD: I should add that bar for women is much lower.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 02:01 PM
1

Nobody really want even more sources of annoyance in their life, there are plenty of them already. And going for somebody who's hard to get is really annoying. And your feelings will disappear soon without reciprocity.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 08:22 AM
3

everything just casual until two casual partners decide not to be casual That's what dating is.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 03:23 AM
1

It isn't anything similar to RP ideas. If RP was right I'd prefer to stay single.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/23 03:32 AM
1

It's all optional, you don't need all of those to be in best possible state. Everybody have flaws and disadvantages.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 07:34 PM
2

Yes, of course it will increase chances. Most important part is that everybody can do all of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 06:09 PM
8

It's literally how this thing works. There's no universal algorithm, no dialog tree, every person is unique so there's no point in developing some sort of complicated strategies. So your goal is to behave in your natural way and look if somebody is interested. You need to fix your confidence up to some point and learn how to leave positive first impression. Works even for introverted nerds.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 05:42 PM
2

Yes, absolutely. Like if she totally against something that I find important or interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 12:52 PM
2

It's easy. Lot of guys chasing after average woman is just a fantasy that exist as an excuse to not go out. People love to make excuses instead of just saying that they aren't really interested in something.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 07:22 AM
8

No. It's irrational and that's why any attempts to find a "solution" for dating is pointless waste of time. Basically you should forget all those dumb ratings, ideas like "league" and do what you like, be yourself and so on.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 12:08 PM
10

By having things to do in your life.
/r/ExRedPill13/09/23 10:31 AM
3

Surround yourself with respectable and masculine men! But your goal is to find woman, not a man. So your goal should be to surround yourself with different women, which gives you opportunities to learn how to deal with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 06:09 AM
21

Did she think about possibility that it's he who rejected everybody, and not him being rejected?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 06:50 PM
3

Nobody really care from my experience. Lack of experience might be a problem, but anybody can catch up fast. It isn't a rocket science and most men are bad at it anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 06:48 PM
3

Men at very least choose who to approach. b) Become more attractive (limited options since face and height are not something that one can greatly influence) Well. if you believe in pill nonsense then nothing will help you. Which is the point of colorful pills.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 05:24 PM
1

No need to deal with dating anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 07:16 AM
3

Just wait and something good will happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 05:56 PM
7

Over 30 of course. 21 years old is too dumb for me at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 12:21 PM
1

It assumes that having sex is your main and only priority in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 06:16 AM
1

They definitely are. In same time you don't have to tell the truth especially if she didn't ask you. Bad experience is experience too, you might just not want to talk about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 06:11 AM
1

Nobody know "the truth" Fuck her then. Fuck her then, better be single. No. No. Nobody is really reasonable. No. No. Better be single then.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 02:15 PM
-2

Or you can just stop believing in utter nonsense like "SMV".
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 07:58 PM
1

Of course 10/10. Why? Because why not. And I see this entire rating system as incredibly dumb anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 07:20 PM
7

It's not that women don't like them - women don't even know about their existence because they don't even try to go out and talk to women.
/r/ExRedPill06/09/23 11:37 AM
11

There's no such thing as "objective perceived value to people", especially in relationships. If you're rational then you go outside, observe people and find that all sorts of men have partners. Which means your assumptions about "objective value" are wrong.
/r/ExRedPill06/09/23 11:30 AM
3

That's why you shouldn't date a girl if she isn't jumping in your bed in first week or two.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 08:30 AM
2

You can leave by any reason you want. But next guy might not be great or even good. And if she decided to leave one good guy then she'll do the same with another one given enough time. Any new guy will understand that and won't commit if he isn't an idiot.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 08:28 AM
14

RP people are far from being rational. They ignore reality, don't learn, don't try to try different things to check what really work and what doesn't and believe in fairy tails instead.
/r/ExRedPill06/09/23 07:31 AM
1

If girl doesn't put an efforts at very beginning then why should she start doing that later? If man is doing all the work already, then why bother?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 11:00 AM
1

You self-improve for yourself, not to be more attractive and not for somebody else. There's no paradox.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 10:43 AM
0

Nothing forbids me to say "no" and leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 10:39 AM
2

Relationships where man do all the work have exact same ZERO chance of lasting. Because it's just too boring and exhausting.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 05:53 AM
1

Guy with self-respect won't waste his time on some "courting" crap. Woman is interested in you or she isn't. Woman will sleep with you or won't. There's no point to spend more than one or two weeks to check that and there are other things to do than courting somebody who most likely have no interest in you anyway. Learned in hard way.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 05:47 AM
1

Except that no self-respecting man will deal with such bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 05:32 AM
-1

They can want whatever they want. It's you decision to deal or not to deal this shit. If she isn't doing anything then she isn't different from any other woman who isn't doing anything and can be easily replaced. You won't notice difference between them anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 05:20 AM
6

You can have self-respect and keep your thirst under control.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 05:15 AM
2

Then you might just not date women who expect you to do everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 05:14 AM
4

It's the same for me. Being entitled is bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 04:53 AM
1

It's annoying of course. In other hands you have control over who to approach and dump anybody by any reason or without one if you feel like that. Woman can only choice between those who approached them, but man can try his luck with anybody he wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 04:52 AM
2

Big cities have more girls suitable for you. You just have to find them. But if you believe in pill nonsense then it just can't be helped.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 08:18 PM
1

It's good really. You can filter out girls that aren't suitable for you really fast.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 08:07 PM
1

Putting too much effort at the beginning is just annoying. If you do all the work and she just there then she isn't that interested in you. Or she would put at least some efforts.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 06:48 PM
1

I used to get attention from girls until my yearly 20s, right until that moment when you start working and find that there's no new people in your life anymore and everybody you knew moved on. But I didn't use it for anything by various reasons, like being overcautious and having different interests. But I think knowledge that girls might like me did help later.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 06:43 PM
2

Because the best way to avoid actually going out and trying to find somebody is to invent dumb and unsolvable problems for yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 09:52 AM
1

Zoomers being afraid of becoming adults and wanting parents to tell them what to do. I'd be angry is somebody called me "kid" back when I was 17 years old. On top of that you can't become an adult without actually trying to be one.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 05:39 AM
4

It isn't about being hot, but about being photogenic.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 03:11 PM
2

If society need kids then it must pay for it. Growing kids is a really had work and expecting that all people will do it for free is absurd.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 07:23 AM
5

If it doesn't include giving place to live for free at very least then those initiatives just aren't big enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 07:21 AM
10

I don't believe in such nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 05:16 PM
13

If you aren't simp then why do you care? Less competition for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 05:01 PM
1

I'm not immortal and there are other things I want to do in my life that aren't about chasing women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 05:54 PM
1

He just need to be around a lot of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 04:00 AM
1

I have no interest in details how RP scam work.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 12:05 PM
3

RP gurus aren't paid for result and they always can say that it's you who's doing it wrong, but you can pay more and they'll teach you how to do it right.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 11:17 AM
2

By selling all sorts of books, courses and all that shit. If you find success with women then you won't buy it anymore. So it's important that you remain a loser for as long as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 10:17 AM
3

No. RP goal is to make money, not to help you.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 07:31 AM
1

Depends on what you mean by "bad boy". Somebody who know what he wants and don't waste his time if he isn't getting it? Or somebody who treat women bad?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 07:28 AM
1

Of course it can. There's a rule "don't stick your dick in crazy" as an example.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 06:23 PM
2

It will transform into something else and that's all. Until men that are romantically unsuccessful and have no idea how to deal with that exist there will be people who want to exploit that.
/r/ExRedPill30/08/23 12:57 PM
5

Because in general you can't get physical attraction towards photo and some numbers with text. Physical attraction can only appear when you see somebody in real life. And people in real life aren't photos with numbers and text, they have behavior. And that behavior is what makes somebody attracted to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 08:46 AM
1

You have no idea how any of that works.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 04:50 AM
7

Things that make man attractive can't be transferred through internet. You only have some numbers like height and photo. How you speak, how you walk, any of that just can't be digitalized. On top of that in real life you can instantly see how girl reacts and if she's interested or not. I never had success in online dating, but I had success approaching girls in real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 03:37 AM
1

Dating is annoying and take a lot of time and efforts. Dating pool is only shrinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 07:26 PM
2

But you can just continue being friends while looking for somebody else. Can't imagine anybody having problems with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 05:18 PM
-1

Except for the other person being offended by you telling them they're not entitled to your friendship or your body That's their problems, not yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 10:34 AM
3

That's why you supposed to have women as friends - it lead you to understanding them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 04:13 AM
22

You can't be put in any of those "zones", you can be there only by your own will. Nothing prevents you to look for somebody else.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 04:04 AM
1

RP don't increase anybody's chance to romance, it's increase your chances to buy their books and courses.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 04:02 AM
1

"Here's what women actually look for, here's what women respond to, here's how you get them into bed. Now go game some women, have some sex, and you'll understand that sex really isn't all that. And who knows, you might find your life partner along the way." Nobody can give you such advice because it isn't possible. RP sells you shit. Only real way is to go out and test what works and what not for you. And then you'll find that BP was right all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 06:55 PM
2

If I just sat here doing my thing I'd still be single. But rich.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 10:13 AM
1

I can definitely say that most "strategies" that I used didn't work. Except those that can be described as "just be yourself".
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 07:50 PM
1

I never seen myself as some sort of "pill", but if we assume that "blue pill" is opposite of "red pill" then yes. One thing that I see strange in RP is that they don't want to test what works and what not for them but want some sort of working universal algorithm.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 05:19 PM
3

At least rejections or fear of being rejected can't make me miserable. I had some success with women, but it never was my priority. After some experimentation my way was to ask girl out, be nice and if she looks interested then just directly ask her to have sex. It worked really well. Nothing similar to doing red pill stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 05:10 PM
2

Not everybody is same. They might be just avoidant or something like that. It's better to look for somebody who don't do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 04:45 PM
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Nobody said that you shouldn't be assertive.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 02:04 PM
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No. Any idiot who's persistent enough can get them. You have to show that you can think and make reasonable decisions. So in this case I'd look into code that you wrote by yourself and then asked a few questions why did you this and not that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 11:14 AM
2

It is in a way. Just not for relationships of any sort. Good place to try casually talk to girls. Went there for a few times just to make sure that they find me attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 11:05 AM
2

Except that it will become old and boring really fast. And then you'll go for somebody who can take care of herself. Having second job and paying for that isn't fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 02:22 PM
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It can get worse. They can waste their time and won't increase their chances at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 02:15 PM
1

Being clingy and desperate reduce your chance to zero which is not different from being invisible. Except that you have to waste your time.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 07:27 AM
1

I prefer to make things clear, like "you're with me or you don't", no dancing allowed.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 07:21 AM
1

That's why you should respect yourself and don't buy this shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 07:19 AM
8

It isn't a chance, it's a role in circus.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 04:51 PM
52

There's an idea: if you have to become "dancing monkey" then you're dealing with wrong woman and should look for somebody else. Self-respect is a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 02:29 PM
1

Do you really-really assume that one and only way to find relationships is to be outgoing extrovert and no other have any hope ever?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 02:26 PM
0

I can live without woman and did exactly that for quite some time. And even now if disadvantages of living with woman start to outweigh benefits then I'll leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 12:38 PM
1

You can't radically change your personality. It just isn't possible. If you're introvert then you can't become an extrovert no matter what. You can pretend to be different person but it's exhausting and you can't do it forever. Point there is that things that work for one kind of people won't work for another.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 12:35 PM
1

Advises from more successful men might not be helpful because you aren't them. If you don't have big social circle then any advice that include said circle is useless as an example. Only useful advises are from somebody who was in situation similar to yours with personality similar to yous and found his own way out of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 07:49 AM
3

I mean exactly what I mean. Relationships only move if one side make actions to move them, nothing ever happen by itself or "organically". Myth about things happen "by itself" bite me in the ass more than once. I once spend almost a year waiting for that, going on dates and so on only to learn that girl expected me to do something. And I had no idea what exactly I should do. And still don't know, I just found my ways around that. Same with "love". If you want something from a girl - you must kno…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 03:33 AM
0

No. You supposed to think about women and relationships as a nice bonus to your life, not as the goal.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 08:44 PM
2

But being single is easy. There are few things that are lacking, but in exchange you can do literally anything you want. Change your life as you see fit, spend money on things that you like, go anywhere you want. No need to care if your partner will like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 08:40 PM
1

Yes, they just work in different way than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 08:38 PM
8

You'll get a few women friends if you behave like that, but it will never lead to anything romantic. Nobody explain you how exactly you supposed to move relationships in this direction and women never initiate it. That was one of my biggest struggle back in the days.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 05:07 PM
1

Better explanation what exactly those advises mean. Typical advice is "just be yourself" but in never ever explained what exactly does that mean. Advises that aren't about just waiting and hoping for the best, but on deliberate actions instead. Something that doesn't assume that you have big social circle because if you have one then you won't have such problems. I don't need those advises now because I discovered all of that by trial and error, but knowing all of that about 20 years ago would b…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 04:56 PM
3

Not having problems that can destroy your life is more important. Problem here, from what I know, that even false accusation can be really damaging.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 04:13 PM
1

Not enough places and opportunities to meet new people.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 06:15 AM
4

Like 10 minutes after I've learned about it. My question was "why should I spend that much of my time and efforts just to get woman and then continue doing so just to keep her with me". And the most important "if women are schemers that just want my resources then I'll be happily alone". RP assume that I should rebuild my entire life in very particular way, change my interests and so on. But I already had things that I like to do and my life at least moved in general direction I wanted it to go.…
/r/ExRedPill21/08/23 03:24 PM
0

Your question assume that women are some sort of hivemind, all of them think in same way, want same thing and so on. Which isn't true. So your question makes no sense at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 03:13 PM
1

Why do you listen to some dumb tiktok zoomers that just can't grow up and still want adults to tell them what to do?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 08:43 AM
5

If you're desperate then you won't get any. But it's a good thing to have. Putting some sort of serious efforts isn't worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 08:40 AM
1

Big cities have a lot of different people with very different interests. So your dating pool is bigger than zero even if you're far from being normie. But I have no idea about how it reflects in dating apps because they're shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 07:36 PM
3

I used to do usual stuff - first meeting supposed to be in middle of the day in public space with a lot of people around.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 05:54 PM
0

Just don't expect that man will dump girl that was with him for somebody else.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 09:08 AM
0

But girl who was with you while you solved your problems will stay with you, and girl who waited have to look for somebody else.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 08:39 AM
2

Good for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 07:39 AM
2

Why do I need to pretend being somebody who I'm not? Or you really think that only outgoing extroverts with giant social circles are allowed to have relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 07:38 AM
2

It assumes that you're an extrovert, can create and maintain social circle big enough, have time for that, that suitable women will be there and she won't reject you. It just doesn't work for a lot of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 04:35 AM
2

Most men don't have big enough social circle that allow some sort of organic relationships to grow. So if they don't want to stay single they have to go and approach women they don't know.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 04:31 AM
6

No. Everybody has right to amiable treatment. Rejection is what you get in most cases and you must deal with it without behaving like a little kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 04:17 AM
1

Yes. But it's a rule that you leave if your advances aren't meet with enthusiasm.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 03:49 AM
0

No. Just no.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 03:44 AM
0

No. I decided how I approach somebody, not some mythical "we".
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 08:27 PM
10

Men aren't a "collective" in the first place. And it isn't a war of some sort when one side should win or get more benefits on expense of other.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 08:17 PM
58

No, never.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 02:47 PM
0

That isn't possible if you have at least something in your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 11:31 AM
1

Never had problems with that. But in most cases it's too indirect to be noticed. I did try to go out with woman that just asked me out directly.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 06:41 AM
1

Or by not investing anything until you sure that something is going to work.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 06:36 AM
18

You don't. If woman see you "boring" then she isn't interested in you and you should find somebody better.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 06:12 AM
1

Because you don't want to stay alone, easy. And only way to do so is to use every opportunity you can. If men gave up after some bad experiences then humanity would die out long time ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 05:52 AM
1

But he was polite, respectful and asked permission. I don't understand problem here.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 03:33 AM
1

Don't remember girls having problems with rejecting me. But I remember what I call "soft rejection" when girl doesn't say "no" but show no mutual interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 03:31 AM
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No. My only struggle was caused by lack of new potential partners and lack of ways to meet new people.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 03:28 AM
1

Celebrities are dumb and they're last people whose opinion you should listen to. And it's a good idea not to make moves towards every woman that interact with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 08:29 PM
3

"Bad guy" there is somebody who knows what he wants and isn't afraid to go for it. Somebody who isn't you because you don't know what you want and too afraid to do something.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 04:24 PM
0

Basically you go where you like to go and ask girl to accompany you. Or you can accompany girl somewhere she wants to go. Most dates cost almost zero.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 08:31 AM
1

In the way. There are a lot of people that you'll be fine with. Some of them will be fine with you. Your goal is just find one of them. And you can change what kind of people will like you by changing things in your life. Doesn't mean that your success is guaranteed of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 08:28 AM
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Murricans aka burgers. Murrica aka burgerstan.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 04:30 AM
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From what I read burger society is afraid of sex and sexuality. So sex become a thing that you can look at if it's far enough from reality, like in porn or specific genre of movies. But aren't allowed to do except under special circumstances. Which creates a lot of strange things. Like everything that supposed to lead to sex is shamed. Just try to approach girl that you find attractive. But then sex leaks into everything else that isn't supposed to be about sex. At least that's how it looks from…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 03:39 AM
1

Statistically speaking chances of being alone are slim if you don't have some really serious problems in your life, regularly try your luck and learn when things don't work. So I didn't bother that much. Ended being married.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 06:31 PM
5

No. Relationships should be taken much easier combined with clear understanding that people can change very fast at young age. So people won't marry until they're ready, and stay on "just dating" level for a while.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 06:26 PM
4

Being crippling afraid of Doing Something Wrong is also treating someone not like a person. It's weird and unnatural. But people with those problems exist, there are various reasons why somebody might start thinking that way. If they're alienated because it seems "weird" for some then they'll join some dumb cult like various colorful pills. A lot of people struggle with dating, writing them off as lost to manosphere is equally dumb, because they'll do exactly that after not being able to solve t…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 05:30 PM
1

I kind of live here.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 02:49 PM
6

You can just stop caring about them and look for those who want to be approached. If woman doesn't want to deal with you she'll instantly tell you. So you don't have to waste your time on her.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 01:15 PM
1

Idea of strict and traditional gender roles aren't that widespread as anybody can think.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 07:54 AM
0

There's no correlation between looks and how good sex is. Best sex that I ever had was with girl with below average looks that I knew for 3 hours. Things like being able to communicate and enthusiasm have no connection to being hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 06:29 AM
1

In Russia you still supposed to pay for girl, but in my experience there's less bullshit than I read in internet about murrican women. It's more like that we're both adults and we both know why we are there. Expectation is than man supposed to lead and woman to follow.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 06:25 AM
1

It's mostly personality what matter in long run. You get used to how girl looks really fast so it stops matter. Being cute can bring you more attention that you might not even want but that's all.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 06:18 AM
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Back in school being chased by girls was annoying because I had no real interest in them. Going into relationships just to get sex seems dumb - school girls were dumb and annoying. Was more interested in other things. Idea that I can just go and ask somebody out put dating low in my priority list. When I decided to find somebody just to check how it all works - managed to find a girl just by cold approaching a few of them in park. So I think I'm attractive to them by some unknown reasons. Went t…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 03:05 AM
1

You have very strange ideas about women and what they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 08:34 PM
0

But why men should prioritize women like that over any other? What that kind of women have that makes them better than others?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 07:42 PM
2

So, looks like my marriage is safe enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 06:46 PM
1

Except that women might not really want a pushovers as their partner. They're unreliable and dealing with them is painful. As a man I wouldn't want any sort of "tradwife" either by exact same reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 04:41 PM
1

I never looked for a woman with specific goal in mind, you never know who you'll find and how far relationships will go. 1. Kind. 2. Shared interests. 3. Interested in sex. 4. Easy to be around.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 11:43 AM
6

It is. If you can attract somebody then it means that you're attractive. Literally, that's what being attractive is.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 08:07 AM
1

Attractive woman is a woman that have similar interests and show initiative. But of course losers prefer to blame something that they can't really change, like looks. Being able to get into a relationship doesn't mean they're attractive Being able to get casual sex doesn't mean they're attractive Then WHAT does that mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 08:04 AM
1

Yes. Being single is better than being in shit relationships. And pills don't teach you that you might be just fine by itself, may even prefer that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 05:45 AM
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"Let's create complication for man I like to check his resolve" is dumb childish game, has nothing to do with standards of any sort. Playing such game you'll get either naive desperate boys who have no idea what they're doing or players who take pride in outplaying women in their game.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 04:09 AM
1

Yes, of course. Joining the manosphere is a sign of total loser. Because nothing is more pathetic than a man deriving his value from success with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 08:21 PM
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But guys have standards too at that point, they aren't those 19 years old boys who have no idea what they ever want. They have some self-respect and understanding what works and what isn't. And they won't deal with woman that still play dumb childish games.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 08:05 PM
11

It isn't what I call "become a friend with woman". Of course before asking her number you should talk with her just to check if she's interested in you at all. It's basic stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 05:53 PM
4

It created by losers that want to prove that they aren't really losers, just some outside force prevent them from finding someone. That force should be something that they can't change, like height or jawline.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 05:07 PM
3

But why 19 years old Instagram model is seen better than anybody else? Any woman that share my hobbies will be better for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 04:59 PM
2

Some people start later. And some people just can't learn. What you see in internet is always minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 04:51 PM
0

Relationships are two-way street and guys tend to learn from their mistakes. This shit will work for 19 years old boy, but if you try to do anything similar for any self-respecting man in his late 20s then he'll leave instantly.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 04:26 PM
8

It's some dumb teen stuff. Some people just never grow up.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 04:23 PM
7

Any man can and will learn that he shouldn't tolerate those hoops at all. And any woman sooner or later finds out that if she wants a decent guy then last thing she should do is to create complications for him. But people around 19 year old still have no idea what they're doing and play dumb games.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 04:22 PM
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Easy: chads don't exist. Almost any man can learn behavior that makes him successful. But most men aren't interested in fucking around, so they use those skills just to find one right woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 03:52 PM
1

I'm not a chad, I'm a short introverted nerd who spent some time to find optimal solution for my problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 12:04 PM
2

This love only exist between parents and children. In all other cases it's much better to find somebody who is going to give you something in exchange otherwise you'll regret it at some point.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 09:38 AM
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There's idea that you must befriend woman before doing any romantic moves towards her. I've heard that from different women too. That idea assumes that said move will be successful. It doesn't say anything about what you supposed to do if you was rejected. If you keep being friend with every woman that rejected you - you just won't have time for anything else in your life. Almost every man had to deal with dozens of rejections before finding somebody who is willing to be with him. You just don't…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 09:30 AM
2

Didn't find love. Girls show me attention, I could easily choose which girl I want. But me and them were stupid kids who had no idea what we really want and I could easily end with somebody who isn't suitable for me. Especially considering how fast and easy I can commit. Plus no drugs, alcohol or bad companies. And I didn't catch any form of male stereotypes which helped a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 08:04 PM
3

Introverted nerd can easily be a "bad boy". Even shy one because shyness only matter when you deal with new person for first time.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 07:59 PM
57

She's insane and it's a bad idea to put your dick in crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 06:23 AM
7

There's better idea: normalize being single and idea that not wanting relationships is totally fine. And idea that it's fine not to have romantic experience in 20s or even 30s.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 02:37 PM
1

Was in basically same situation in my first ever relationships in my early 20. At some point I had to directly ask her what's going on and didn't get clear answer. So I broke up. At least I got some experience, learned what to avoid, how not to behave and that having a girlfriend isn't outside of my reach. Being single is better than be in bad relationships.
/r/ExRedPill11/08/23 05:52 AM
1

Some people are just quiet by their nature. Not a good idea to equate being quiet to being bitter. But for them doing all sorts of "normal" thing might be harder than for others.
/r/ExRedPill11/08/23 05:42 AM
1

Being direct is only thing that really works. In terms that it bring real results that won't backfire after some time. At least that was my experience with both approaches. Being indirect was miserable and didn't lead to anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 04:25 PM
1

In real life you can at least see how girl reacts on you. Which is better than any dating app.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 05:34 AM
1

You can get attracted later. If I only had approached girls that I feel attracted to I'd still be single. I believed in that dumb idea that you only supposed to approach girl that you feel attracted to until my early 20s and it didn't do any good for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 05:08 AM
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For me it always was fun and exciting thing to do. You just like "fuck it, let's go", then do it and somehow manage to pull some extra confidence just for that. And it usually feels pretty good. And rejection is nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 07:59 PM
1

Disgusting, no interest in somebody who's crazy enough to do all of that. Even when I was single I wasn't that desperate for relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 08:37 AM
1

Gym can make you more confident and change kind of girls that attracted to you. But if nobody is attracted to you then it won't change shit.
/r/AllPillDebate08/08/23 07:48 PM
-1

Sex is entire point of dating. Girls usually become very annoyed if you don't ask them to do that. Up to the point when girl can reject you for not having sex on first date, which happened with me once.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 06:33 PM
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Which language passport bros are using to communicate with their girlfriends? If English then can they explain why poor traditional and hardworking girl should spend years learning foreign language and not use that knowledge for something better.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 11:49 AM
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Back in the days I've seen a lot of ads for courses that supposed to teach girls how to score one of those "passport bros" just to get US citizenship and then divorce. Don't think that anything changed since then. UPD: There's a simple test: did you learn one of those Asian languages or she's communicate with you using English?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 07:35 AM
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There's harsh truth for passport bros. Girls that go for them aren't pure, innocent, traditional or anything like that. They deliberately learn how to behave in this way and play role that you want to see. And then use and manipulate you for their own advantage. If you're so undesirable that no woman in your own country want you - then why did you decide that women on other side of the world would want you?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 07:19 AM
1

Yes. But it gives you a good chance to get what you want too. But if you're all indirect then you won't get anything ever. Learned in hard way. Was last thing I wanted to try before giving up on women once and for all and it just worked.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 04:13 AM
0

I have no interest in going deep into some bullshit rules that created with purpose to make you a failure.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 03:37 AM
1

Yes. All of them. Those "rules" are bullshit and only exist to make you fail and then go back to buy more courses and gym membership.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 03:27 AM
7

I was told that directly saying what you want, expect or feel towards woman is bad and won't work. In reality that's the only thing that works.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 06:37 PM
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Internet just can't transfer anything that make man attractive. So women have no choice to filter by some dumb numbers that can't be faked. That's why OLD is bullshit. Internet is useful only to arrange dates, but not to know somebody better.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 06:34 PM
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Those people are incels. They didn't have title in the past but still had exact same ideas about things outside of their control preventing them from finding somebody. Either just idiots or idiots who still didn't understand that there's no participation awards in life. Innately unattractive men are extremely tiny minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 07:00 AM
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None of "current problems" are new or unique. Even incels aren't new thing, there always were guys who just couldn't grasp how to deal with women. People didn't change for last tens of thousands years. Only difference is that internet allows those people to connect with each other. And what we call "traditional" was progressive like about 100 years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 04:08 AM
1

Idea that just having "chad" body affect your life in significant way is a lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 04:02 AM
1

It's very simple. I always looked for somebody who is into same hobbies as me (at least one of them), kind, easy to be around and interested in sex. I can't see tropes like that in the list. Found that woman almost 10 years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 06:41 PM
2

No. You can want what you want and shouldn't change your standards to fit somebody's else ideas. Otherwise you won't find somebody suitable for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 06:37 PM
1

I think at least 20.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 06:33 PM
0

Well, if we define chads as "men that women want to have sex with" then I fit in that criteria, despite not having height, body or some dumb "jawline". Have no idea why did you bring rapists here.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 03:38 AM
2

If they choose their husbands based on some sort of arbitrary traits that husband supposed to have then they just ended with incompatible partner. Of course they won't have any desires towards him. That's what happen when you let somebody else to set your standards for opposite gender, no matter how good their intentions are.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 06:49 PM
13

I married one. Pillers care about looks far too much, it isn't that important in comparison.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 11:58 AM
2

Then you tell about that and if another party isn't ok with moving towards proper relationships then you break up. Entire point is to be able to break up soon if things doesn't work without getting invested into relationships too much.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 08:07 AM
1

If both parties are ok with that then I don't see a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 07:24 AM
0

No. They should grow up and stop being dumb teens in adult bodies.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 05:50 AM
3

"Situationships" isn't anything new, it seen as initial stage for relationships. You meet each other for some time, sleep for a while and then decide if you want to go for more or it's better to just break up earlier.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 03:50 AM
3

I didn't date for almost 10 years, so things might change. In Russia exclusivity is assumed by default. If you seeing somebody it should be exclusive. I haven't seen people just hooking up, everybody I knew were either single or in long-term relationships. It exists somewhere, but I don't think it's widespread. I haven't seen looks being important at all. And never meet any strange problem with being single myself back in my 20s, nobody cared about that. And from my experience women can be annoy…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 03:39 AM
2

Your preference how you see them will be very different from person that you're actually attracted to. Nobody is lying there. It's mostly about what they see as perfect case in some sort of perfect world. Men do the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 06:49 AM
2

Education might just not part of your standards. Being kind, faithful and nice to be around isn't linked to education. In the end you just need another person who is compatible with you and want to be with you. Looks like a lot or RP duded have very strange ideas how people work. Not that I have that much of education.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 03:13 AM
1

They might be chads exactly because of that. Women like kind and respectful men. But by RP/BP standards I'm a chad too, except looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 08:06 PM
-1

It's when you make decision and follow them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 02:29 PM
6

I don't like when men treated like accessories. You choose your partner - you stay with your partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 02:24 PM
11

Except that there aren't that many of those men are free. And it annoys me when women start whining about that. They knew what they were doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 02:23 PM
11

Ask him "Do I look like a chad?".
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 01:21 PM
19

You can't expect good men to wait just for you. You goal and taste changed, no problem, people change. You decided to leave relationships, not a problem. Problem is when you expect that there's somebody else waiting for you and getting mad because there aren't one. It smells like entitlement. If you want to have a good man in your 40s or 50s then you had to look for a suitable man when you were in your 20s.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 08:09 AM
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Men aren't accessories you can replace just because your taste have changed. You can do something like that in your 20s to learn what do you want, but men won't wait for you to make decision.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 07:58 AM
19

Sounds like entitlement. No woman is entitled to good man.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 07:37 AM
1

Don't really blame or something, but I really tried to be a "good son", didn't create problems and so on. That was a mistake from my part I think, but some useful hints would be useful.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 07:17 AM
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From my experience it's exactly opposite. Women in general like kind men. I think some don't, but you don't have to deal or communicate with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 07:05 AM
1

No. Relationships is one of those things in life that is free. And having good partner that supports you is useful when you have to overcome obstacles in your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 02:14 PM
1

Only useful thing about PUA is how and when to approach women for people who have no idea how to do that. Everything else is useless and harmful.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 01:47 PM
1

When someone is busy running errands or working I specially pointed that I never ever approached anybody on their way form one place to another. Learn to read.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 01:42 PM
2

I always was polite, it always was in public places during daylight where other people are around. Not on the way from one place to another One of my primary goals always was to make sure that I'm not looking as a threat to anybody in any way. And when woman said that she isn't interested, have boyfriend or didn't show clear interest form get go then I just leave her alone. Just as any man supposed to do in such situation. And it wasn't in murrica because I'm not murrincan of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 01:29 PM
1

There's no way to know if it's unwanted or not before you try. Most of my experience was neutral or even positive. And if girl wasn't interested I just said "sorry" and didn't bother her ever again. At some point I've learned to read all those hints and signals so I could say if I have a chance or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 01:15 PM
3

It's just another form "wait for a girl to fall from the sky". There's no guarantee that anybody available or suitable will be there. And it removes any agency, which I hate. Especially if you're introverted guy who just can't maintain connections with a lots of people. It's good if you can find somebody this way, but what should you do if there's nobody here? Basically it's ableism.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 01:07 PM
3

Then point me where men who by some reasons didn't learn it in proper time can learn all of that without those problems. That doesn't include any form of idea "just wait until good girl fall from the sky". Because I did wait and nobody fell from the sky for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 12:58 PM
2

I didn't went into "the game" because it was too manipulative and complicated. I just had zero romantic experience, was in my 20s, without social circle and didn't want to waste more of my life. So I read how to approach women and just went for it. In same time I didn't have problems with talking to women in general. I just didn't know how to find new people and how to move towards anything remotely romantic. PUA solved those two problems. But I don't think it will work for everybody in same way…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 12:50 PM
3

For me catching up with all of that romantic stuff and not wasting more of my limited time on this dumb planet was more important than not making few women slightly uncomfortable for minute or two. People make each other uncomfortable every day, it isn't end of the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 12:44 PM
5

You have to learn all of that somewhat. And there's no other ways to learn except just doing it in real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 12:31 PM
14

Approached few girls, one of them agreed to go out with me. So I didn't need PUA anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 12:10 PM
1

It isn't "pick me" behavior, it's normal behavior that expected from somebody who have some interest. But your typical behavior is exactly what make anybody to stay away. It's hard to keep interest in somebody who is indifferent and isn't doing anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 09:25 AM
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