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| 3 | #MenToo and #AbuseHasNoGender is trending, and this is a HUGE step in the direction of mens rightsTwitter is what the MSM think is real life. That's the reason it means something. Things will go back to how they were at the end of this case but something will remain. And that's how things change, little by little. That's how it works when the whole system is stacked against you. It at least made it so that some people realized just how biased society is. | /r/MensRights | 06/05/22 11:57 PM |
| 2 | Ultra woke bs peddled by NetflixThe only one I see lacking logical thinking here is you. Yes, medias, as a whole, have been working to reduce peoples' critical thinking skills for decades. People that don't think by themselves but just follow an agenda of what is considered "right" and "wrong" are easier to use; and are the best customers, since they'll accept anything you throw at them. And if you were the ones creating the trends they follow in the first place, you obviously knows WHAT to feed these people. That's the main i… | /r/MensRights | 25/01/22 07:44 PM |
| 2 | UK: Male pride could be causing older women to miss out on IVF, experts warn. OP: As always, the male haters blame men for every issue."Hilariously" enough, autistic people probably would understand the point way, wayy better because of how litteral we tend to be. Nope, he/she's just a damn sexist with huge double standards when it comes to consent, who isn't even aware of his/her own sexism in the first place. As I said in another post; A woman doesn't want to do something, no matter how stupid the reason might be, and it's inconvenient to a man => "Deal with it, you don't get to control her, fucking misogynist!" A man doesn't… | /r/MensRights | 25/01/22 07:16 PM |
| 2 | UK: Male pride could be causing older women to miss out on IVF, experts warn. OP: As always, the male haters blame men for every issue.Yes, that's it's blamed on "male pride" and you yourself present it as something to fix, quote, "Many men have trouble admitting they need help with IVF.", making it about them not admitting something rather than just their choice, for whatever reason. Yes, this is about forcing them, by "teaching them that it's fine". You just use pseudo-social conditioning as an excuse to disregard a man's choice. You're just a sexist with double standards when it comes to consent. That's about it. Again, I'm … | /r/MensRights | 25/01/22 07:12 PM |
| 2 | UK: Male pride could be causing older women to miss out on IVF, experts warn. OP: As always, the male haters blame men for every issue.What a joke. Now, compromises must be found? Try saying this to just about anyone when the subject is a woman aborting when the man doesn't want to. Just try to. You're just using stupid excuses ("muh toxic masculinity, the man thinks it'd make him less of a man") to delegitimize what the man wants. Period. Using a stupid rhetoric to justify the fact that the man doesn't want IVF, for whatever reason, must be "fixed". If the man doesn't want to, there's no "it's better to do it sooner than later… | /r/MensRights | 25/01/22 06:35 PM |
| 1 | The Modern Feminist Movement Is Damaging My Husband. RANTIt's hilarious to see how it's fine to say that there are "systemic problems due to their education" regarding men, but when it comes to women, it always results in the "not all women!" answer. Nobody said that it's "all women", genius, problems occur because of a matter of trends due to education. But I guess saying this is only acceptable when you say that "more guys than women tend to do [x]". Systemic/educational problems are only allowed to exist in one way, and it's when it makes women vic… | /r/MensRights | 25/01/22 04:29 PM |
| 2 | I feel like misandry is starting to become a coping mechanism for troubled women.....To be fair, it isn't just about women or feminists. We pretty much are in a "scapegoat" generation. Because of a "spoiled children" culture, it's impossible for people to question their own action and behaviour, and they must therefore ALWAYS have a scapegoat to blame everything onto. It's a generational problem that you'll find EVERYWHERE, particularly in the "social justice" side that would rather accept one entity as the devil rather than accept that reality is an incredibly complex system wi… | /r/MensRights | 21/01/22 02:30 AM |
| 3 | I feel like misandry is starting to become a coping mechanism for troubled women.....What do you mean by 'being a feminist"? Do you mean "believing in men/women equality"? Because that's not "being a feminist". Feminism is an ideology, that includes a lot of other things like a hierarchy of oppression or the devil known as the patriarchy. A lot of us are former feminists. That is, feminists in its "feminism is about equality between men and women" meaning. We left because it ended up being a religion assuming that gender roles are the ONE thing causing any existing problem in … | /r/MensRights | 21/01/22 02:27 AM |
| 1 | [STUDY] False rape accusations can be just as traumatic or damaging as rape itself. Yes, it does ruin lives.There's a search function on reddit, and false accusations being rare has already been discussed countless times. The reason I don't answer is because the famous "false accusation = between 2% and 10%" is a well-known manipulation of statistics that has already been discussed over and over. Do a reddit search using these words and you'll find countless discussions about it. Long story short, if about 5% of accusations are rare, it's because this is the number of cases prosecuted as false, and ab… | /r/MensRights | 20/01/22 10:47 PM |
| 1 | [STUDY] False rape accusations can be just as traumatic or damaging as rape itself. Yes, it does ruin lives.And someone who doesn't know what they're talking about, yet again. I hope you're aware that by using this "argument", you're actually saying that rape is about as rare as sexuel assault? Unless you play the double standard card. Do your own damn research and try to understand what you link before linking it. | /r/MensRights | 19/01/22 11:18 PM |
| 1 | Why the hell men can't cry?That's not "toxic masculinity" (or gender roles, for that matter). Even among men that don't give a damn about gender roles, most would rather die than being seen crying. Why? Because while using a woman's emotional problem against her is seen as manipulative, using a man's problems against him is seen as fair game. And if it's done by a woman, it's even encouraged; "yai, don't let him bring you down queen!". TM would mean that it's because of gender stereotypes. It isn't. The stereotypes are th… | /r/MensRights | 11/12/21 01:52 PM |
| 2 | "Home for violent men" in France (article in german)It is, yes. I've heard something that I really didn't like from her recently. While I acknowledge that yes, maybe hulot is guilty in the recent hulot case (who knows, nobody can be sure as of now. I really don't like him, but still), she basically said that him defending himself and making a joke (about himself; he was degrading himself) was "indecent towards the victims". Translation: to her, there are victims even if nothing has been proven yet, and if hulot was a "good feminist" he wouldn't h… | /r/MensRights | 28/11/21 01:39 AM |
| 1 | "Home for violent men" in France (article in german)No. Because you've already decided of a culprit even if there isn't any proof that it exists. Needless to say, a culprit that shifts any direct responsibility away from any woman. I can just as easily say that the problem is our matriarchy, and its own side-effects are what causes women's problems on women. That's an heavily simplistic point of view, and the real world isn't that simplistic. The patriarchy is a damn conspiracy theory, usually used to get rid of any direct responsibility that cou… | /r/MensRights | 28/11/21 01:04 AM |
| 1 | "Home for violent men" in France (article in german)Fun fact: it's actually a minister of equality between WOMEN AND MEN. Notice the order. I don't really care about this. At all. But it is, in fact, very telling. Aside from the random feminist crap that they do encourage, it's also led by these tumblr people that think that changing the order or words will change the whole world. Saying "men and women" would be oppressive, so they're saving women from oppression by switching the words. Again, I don't care at all about this part. Who cares about … | /r/MensRights | 28/11/21 01:00 AM |
| 2 | "Home for violent men" in France (article in german)Too bad schiappa's successor is just as bad as her. At least. | /r/MensRights | 28/11/21 12:55 AM |
| 2 | Man tries to pick up his son from his exes house and gets shot twice by by his sons stepfather.Well, while I do agree, and while the situation is absolutely terrible for the kids, don't forget what happened to the dad as well. It would have been terrible even if it (somehow) didn't affect the kids at all. | /r/MensRights | 26/11/21 11:54 PM |
| 8 | It’s a easy being a Man? Feminist author disguises as a man for 18 months ends up institutionalized for depression.She's boycotted by other feminists. The other feminists are the problem. Not her. She's a great person, but she's reduced to silence, more or less. I don't even know if she still labels herself as feminist. | /r/MensRights | 26/11/21 11:46 PM |
| 16 | It’s a easy being a Man? Feminist author disguises as a man for 18 months ends up institutionalized for depression.Yeah. The problem is that this kind of feminist tend to end up being boycotted. | /r/MensRights | 26/11/21 07:59 PM |
| 2 | Progressive* account mocking male suicide before National Men's dayThey're given the last seat. Or no seat at all. Because of, you know, male privilege. Don't you dare be a gay man and asking for something that'd bother anyone else than other men on a lgbt group. | /r/MensRights | 22/11/21 12:10 PM |
| 3 | Rant: The fact that the "gender pay gap" gets more media coverage than male suicide and male homelessness proves that society does not give a shit about men.No, you just don't know what you're talking about. These things have been done. And shut down by feminists or forced to become "gender-neutral" because of "inclusivity" (and eventually it either fail or become all about women instead. That's how it went for most DV shelters). And let's not go into the matter of getting funds. Good luck with that one. You're the one not knowing anything about what you're talking about and assuming that it's a matter of "just hating on women". There's a reason peo… | /r/MensRights | 22/11/21 11:52 AM |
| 1 | Rant: The fact that the "gender pay gap" gets more media coverage than male suicide and male homelessness proves that society does not give a shit about men.What the hell are you talking about. Most people talking about this know MORE about this topic than yu. I sure hope that you don't consider the west to be "male-dominated" because it's the exact opposite of "if all theyd blame the woman". | /r/MensRights | 22/11/21 11:45 AM |
| 2 | An appeal to all the feminist/anti-MRA lurkers hereAddress men issues without blaming all on the patriarchy boogeyman. They're more than willing to talk about issues ("men don't have the right to cry!!!" why holding a "male tears" cup) if they can both make it all about men at the same time, and use it to push their ideology. | /r/MensRights | 11/11/21 01:02 PM |
| 1 | The marriage is good for the health of men trope needs to be debunked. It is a great example of lying with statistics. Marriage is definitely not good for the health of divorced men fir starters.Not to mention that... How does this require marriage to be the case, anyway? You can't be careful about what you or someone else eat without being married...? | /r/MensRights | 13/09/21 12:52 PM |
| 0 | I am falsely accused at work for sexual harrasment by underage female associate.That's not about "half of the population". It's about THE LAW and society's bias. That can be abused by any member of "half of the population" if they see fit one day. Want to fix this? Fix people's mentality and the empathy gap, make people have more empathy towards men and make people realize that they should doubt women as well. Then the problem will fix itself. Because while half of the population isn't like that, half of the population CAN do this. And people aren't born good or bad and a g… | /r/MensRights | 09/09/21 10:34 PM |
| 5 | I am falsely accused at work for sexual harrasment by underage female associate.Yes it is. When the law is stacked against you, you use any possible mean to stop the law from getting involved. In the current situation, the only way to do this is what you call "discrimination"; which is in fact just staying away from people that possibly can weaponize victimhood too much. Fix the law and these societal trends that are so easy to abuse and that people are applauding (because "muh women are poor victims, BELIEVE ALL WOMEN, you go girl"). And then we'll talk. This is not fighti… | /r/MensRights | 09/09/21 10:08 PM |
| 1 | "Men should cry" The ideological bait.As someone that lost a cat dear to me lately, thank you for this. You did everything well and it sure is a right way to show that you cared. Tears aren't the only way to do so. Your efforts and thoughtfulness also is. | /r/MensRights | 05/09/21 02:06 AM |
| 1 | "Men should cry" The ideological bait.If a guy expresses any form of grief, insecurity or stress and vents about it to a woman, she could just as easily turn around and accuse him of grooming or being manipulative, or state that he was trying to use those feelings to get garner sympathy from her. I've seen that way, WAY too often. You don't talk about your problems? Toxic masculinity! You do? You're manipulative! With society as a whole (because of course she either talked about it online or talked about it with friends/professional… | /r/MensRights | 05/09/21 02:01 AM |
| 1 | "Men should cry" The ideological bait.Right, but it's not about your friends here. It's about the ones literally weaponizing the idea that "men should cry" just to use it against them afterward ( = most feminists, actually). Most sane people will not encourage you to cry by bringing up gender roles as the reason you don't. If you cry, they'll be here to support you instead. That's not the "men should cry" crowd. So keep your conspiracy talk to yourself; this isn't about "all women". But men need to keep their guard up, if only becau… | /r/MensRights | 05/09/21 01:16 AM |
| 5 | This is one of the stupidest things I've ever readSure, showing that you're displaying giant double standards and that you have an hypocritical stance of "It's normal and justified to insult a man regarding its sexuality and it shows that he should reconsider his actions" vs "it's NOT fair to say some things regarding her sexuality to a woman and it's the other people's problem!!" is "hating on women". Good job being a perfect example of the problem. You're the one not having a genuine conversation here, which is a given since you started the c… | /r/MensRights | 05/09/21 01:01 AM |
| 5 | This is one of the stupidest things I've ever readIt's exactly the same whether you like it or not. If multiple people call you a bitch or catcall you, it would be, according to feminists, because of a societal problem. Directly resorting to sex-related insults towards males as soon as someone disagree with you is exactly the same, except that this is normalized, as you just proved. Furthermore, it implies that people freely don't insult each other when they're ideologically opposed. The insult of choice towards men in this context being "virgi… | /r/MensRights | 05/09/21 12:49 AM |
| 3 | This is one of the stupidest things I've ever readNice, so, if 10 people told a woman that got sexually harassed that she was "asking for it" because of her shorts, I guess it would makes them right, right? It couldn't possibly because there could be a fucked up belief in this culture; it has to be about the hypothetical victim. Also, funny that you make an exception for catcalling. So, if it comes to you it's just catcalling, so you're not at fault for making the other react this way, but when it comes to people unable to stay civil when someo… | /r/MensRights | 05/09/21 12:37 AM |
| 4 | This is one of the stupidest things I've ever readAccounting for the number of hours worked doesn't matter? Forget the fact that it isn't "a clever counterpoint", you apparently don't even know how logic works in the first place. And you're the one talking about a "persecution complex". How funny. | /r/MensRights | 05/09/21 12:26 AM |
| 3 | This is one of the stupidest things I've ever readSo, if someone called you an absolute bitch randomly on the street, it'd be wise for you to think that you deserved it and are in fact a terrible person, right? Yeah, right. "Word of advice". Because feminists and people brainwashed by this crap have an absolute moral compass. | /r/MensRights | 05/09/21 12:21 AM |
| 2 | I think this has been talked about but...Yes, I saw this one. Even this "logic" is a giant leap. "If you can tell"? That's still about thinking and your own messed-up interpretations of things. People have different communication methods that will are bound to cause giant misunderstandings; e.g. if I go to some other countries, the kiss on the cheeks that are normal in my country will most certainly be seen as a sign of interest. And you will "know" that "I'm interested" in you (no). But even the basics of communication and of theory o… | /r/MensRights | 29/08/21 06:16 AM |
| 2 | I think this has been talked about but...Jesus, the reactions. The one suggesting that it might be an anxiety issue is being downvoted to oblivion. "YOU'RE NOT AT FAULT!!!". Because it HAS to be because the man made her realize that he was "objectifying her" without noticing it. Her messed-up mind making mountains out of molehills or even seeing things where there is nothing because she has her particular way to interpret social cues (and I will never stress enough how common this is nowadays, thanks to our online generation") definite… | /r/MensRights | 29/08/21 05:18 AM |
| 2 | Why people are so quick to judge a man a criminal?Different profiles. Add to that the fact that women tend to manipulate so that the "dirty" part of the work will be done by a man (e.g. false accusation of rape and "confessing" about the rape to a male "enforcer") and it complicates the matter further. The problem is that this kind of crime isn't considered as seriously as a direct attack, even if it's just as dangerous if not moreso (just like psychological abuse). Our justice system is tailor-made for crimes that are "stereotypically male". T… | /r/MensRights | 29/08/21 05:00 AM |
| 2 | Why people are so quick to judge a man a criminal?Funnily enough, there are some trans people that did just that and would tell you an huge "screw you". No, you don't know how much privilege you have compared to [x] or [y]. You just see what you want to see. Just like every other idiot talking about "privileges". It reminds me of people in the west complaining about how the wage gap absolutely exist "because a coworker is earning less than me" without taking into account the three thousands of factors that explain it perfectly well. You're the … | /r/MensRights | 29/08/21 04:54 AM |
| 2 | Tell me you're sexist without telling me you're sexistIt exists (see what enzi42 or myself answered) and is acknowledged fairly frequently. The problem is... that its definition isn't what you'd want to hear at all. Toxic femininity, in a feminist's mouth, has nothing to do with smearing your reputation, using one's hypoagency to manipulate a man for him to do the dirty work, abusing men's expendability, or whatever else that would actually make some kind of sense. Remember, they live in perpetual victimhood, so their own "gender roles" cannot poss… | /r/MensRights | 29/08/21 03:56 AM |
| 2 | Tell me you're sexist without telling me you're sexistNah, feminists do acknowledge it. And the person you're talking to just parrot what they constantly say. Basically: Toxic masculinity = ruin everyone's lives and women are the poor victims of it Toxic femininity = Ruin women's lives and women are the poor victims of it, yet ago (no mention of how the hypoagency of a woman tend to be usable to MANIPULATE someone else of course; in their mouth, toxic femininity just means "the evil patriarchy is using gender roles to make the woman limit her own o… | /r/MensRights | 29/08/21 03:49 AM |
| 0 | Tell me you're sexist without telling me you're sexistThe good old' hypocrisy. "Toxic masculinity is what creates problems for society as a whole and both men and women, and it causes bad male behviour that women are the victims of; meanwhile, toxic femininity ALSO what makes women poor victims and that's it". Yeah, nope, this scam isn't going to work. Toxic femininity = as an example, the tendency to use one's own victim role and lack of agency to MANIPULATE others (which hilariously enough is exactly what you were doing here), particularly men. T… | /r/MensRights | 29/08/21 03:35 AM |
| 1 | Where are all the feminists now??You know that women also have the right to organize and defend THEMSELVES against religious nutjobs, right? Even against men. But no. It's easier to say that "this is all men's fault". Meanwhile, no one talks about the men that will be killed for "collaborating with the west". No, it isn't "men who created this mess". However, men are expected to solve it, because they're the only ones that should have to sacrifice themselves to fight with religious nutjobs, apparently. | /r/MensRights | 22/08/21 02:28 PM |
| 1 | An incredible dumb person on a other subreddit just pointed out that 90% of countries and companies are run by men- so therefore ALL men are privileged. That's like pointing out that most NBA players are black and super rich, therefore all black people must be wealthy.Stop using this "argument" as a proof. It doesn't mean anything and there's too many other factors that can influence the result. Factors that aren't "sexism". You're not the only one that has "seen both sides" and has been in STEM fields. The only difference is that what is considered as "normal" for men is considered "sexism" for women. You not realizing it pre-transition is your own problem, but STEM fields most definitely aren't "more sexist towards women". If anything they tend to get more … | /r/MensRights | 22/08/21 01:51 PM |
| 2 | Think there's a reason there are more MtF transgenders than FtMThen you're not aware enough of the debates that go on in the trans community. How body dysphoria look like in different individual has been a subject of debate for a fairly long time (again, the whole AGP crap is a good example of how there's divides even within the community, there's pretty much two groups of MtF as well. Which is stupid, but that's tribalism for you). And a lot of people "pass" as trans despite not having "real" (whatever that means since it's a matter of debate) body dysphor… | /r/MensRights | 15/08/21 01:35 AM |
| 2 | Think there's a reason there are more MtF transgenders than FtMYou're only including "real" transgenders in your viewpoint. There goes your problem. I can't count the number of people that attempted MtF transition but probably wouldn't qualify as transgender under your strict definition. This phenomenon is considerably lower for FtM. I've met a ton of ""trans"" that felt more male than female. But they usually weren't serious enough about it to undergo hormonal therapy and it eventually faded out of their mind. How T works, AND men's """privileges""", both … | /r/MensRights | 15/08/21 12:11 AM |
| 5 | Think there's a reason there are more MtF transgenders than FtMT being a LOT more agressive, powerful, and hard to come by than E possibly have something to do with this. It's way harder to "reverse" a FtM transition than a MtF one. T is just that powerful. Once you take it, there are consequences. Heavy ones. E.g. One's voice. Or the fact that once hair follicles are activated, they don't stop even if you stop taking hormones. Ironically, the effects from natural T that makes transitioning as MtF a pain probably is a major deterrent for testosterone therap… | /r/MensRights | 14/08/21 11:48 PM |
| 11 | Think there's a reason there are more MtF transgenders than FtMIf they "had", you're quite nice, there's some pretty funny things already happening in the lgbt community, like lesbians complaining about MtF "stealing their girlfriends" or just not recognizing them as women. It's not really a "when", it's already happening, although mainly behind closed doors because most people don't know much about it. MtF are supported by others and by feminism as long as they're convenient. Once they become "problematic", it becomes another story. It's just that not enou… | /r/MensRights | 14/08/21 11:40 PM |
| 3 | Guy asks if it is OK to ask a girl out, after she has sexually assaulted him. What is wrong with these people? Imagine if the roles were reversed.If we ignore the fact that it's pretty much impossible to judge because of a lack of information, I can somewhat see where you're coming from. Basically, "The world will NEVER be an huge safe space, yes it's terrible but it's something that we would never be able to 100% fix even under a complete dictatorship, so you have to be careful" (something you can never actually say because it'll be perceived as victim-blaming, even if you don't blame the victim at all and say it explicitly , but just wa… | /r/MensRights | 14/08/21 11:04 PM |
| 1 | According to feminists, subs like this one cause deaths!A ton of them were also eating and breathing. Another thing we should ban too, I suppose. | /r/MensRights | 14/08/21 10:40 PM |
| 2 | According to feminists, subs like this one cause deaths!Since when is working along with someone that "is winning" an helpful move, in any way? Not to mention that MRA aren't the ones dissociating from feminists and the likes; feminists are the ones unable to acknowledge that things like their "patriarchy" or "toxic masculinity" crap are nonsense caused by their religious-level fanaticism and by the fact that they can't see see the world as anything else than pure gender roles. If you collaborate with someone that has more power than you, you're effe… | /r/MensRights | 14/08/21 10:29 PM |
| 6 | Are Women Of This Generation Loyal?As a general rule, people of this generation aren't loyal as a whole. Too much individualism and egocentrism that is preached as the ultimate virtue, which makes loyalty extremely hard since loyalty implies being able to push yourself on the sideline. There's some factors that are more or less gendered that can make the issue worse, e.g. social networks, but it's a global problem. a generation absolutely obsessed by the self will have an hard time being really loyal Not helped by the fact that w… | /r/MensRights | 11/08/21 02:31 PM |
| 1 | Andrew Cuomo throws ALL MEN UNDER THE BUS. Trying to blame his disgusting molesting behavior on the patriarchy. You cannot make this stuff up. UNREAL.Out of curiosity (I'm not from the us and I'm extremely bad with acronyms, even in my own language), what is CRT? But yes. The problem is that recognizing your own problems is a core component when it comes to "moving forward" and becoming a better person (and that includes problems like parental engagement, as you said). Sure, some bigger societal problems MIGHT be involved as well, it's certainly possible, but acknowledging your own mistakes is supposed to be your FUEL when it comes to becomin… | /r/MensRights | 11/08/21 02:11 AM |
| 10 | about against hate subreddits postsYou jump the rope again. Read the conversation again and pay attention to who is saying each part. And then ask whether the person saying this is dark-skinned itself. Because this whole things reads as "I'll never be attractive" "You can attract people people by being at the right place and time" "Are you an ugly dark-skinned nigerian? No? Don't talk then." While I see where you're coming from, this REEKS of "You're not having it as bad as I do and that's why you're succesfull". With the person … | /r/MensRights | 11/08/21 01:12 AM |
| 10 | about against hate subreddits postsThanks for proving that this is not about any of this but about you not considering something "appropriate" according to your own ideology and you feeling personally offended without taking into account different sensibilities and context. So, in turn: -The first one is, if anything, bashing ugly and small males -The second is about not doing LGBTQ propaganda to young children, which is a perfectly fair argument and very far from any kind of "phobia". Yes, for some people, it's better to wait fo… | /r/MensRights | 11/08/21 12:15 AM |
| 11 | Andrew Cuomo throws ALL MEN UNDER THE BUS. Trying to blame his disgusting molesting behavior on the patriarchy. You cannot make this stuff up. UNREAL.It's sadly one of the reason this "patriarchy" crap is so popular; because it's a very convenient tool for A TON of people. It's something that is also very easy to observe when it comes to hardcore male feminists; to them, the patriarchy is a convenient tool they use to absolve themselves of any responsibility when it comes to their own disgusting actions in the past. "Yeah I did this but it wasn't because I was a jerk that did it out of my free will because I have problems, it was because of t… | /r/MensRights | 10/08/21 11:19 PM |
| 2 | He defended an age-gap relationship. A relationship between two consenting adults is “grooming” now….Hilariously enough, the most "stable" friends that I've had usually avoid opening up with that sentence and when they talk about it they're far better at not victimizing themselves. One of the most "reliable" one (as in, the one coming back in touch after 2 years without contacting each other, for non-personal reasons, no bad blood at all) was someone that was even quite rational about her own fault in her own mess-ups instead of randomly accusing everyone of sexual assault casually. These ones … | /r/MensRights | 07/08/21 01:24 AM |
| 5 | [Serious] People Who Think Men Are The More Privileged Gender, Why? What Privileges Do They Have?If you're willing to dismiss biology and statistics as a whole, you do you. I sure hope that you have another explaination than "it's..it's society!!" though. If asians are biologically smarter, yes it means that they are. No matter the reason and no matter what caused it evolution-wise. All of your "millions of other factors" are a part of evolution as well. No problem with that. If you want to dismiss any biological difference, well, take some hormonal therapy in your youth and tell me how it'… | /r/MensRights | 04/08/21 02:59 AM |
| 3 | [Serious] People Who Think Men Are The More Privileged Gender, Why? What Privileges Do They Have?It's actually quite well-known for anyone actually interested in equalitarianism, and quite an old story for anyone interested in the relationship between women and STEM beyond the usual feminist buzzwords. https://www.thejournal.ie/gender-equality-countries-stem-girls-3848156-Feb2018/ I don't get how this is supposed to be "complicated" to know about, I've known about it for something like years, personally. That's one of the biggest problems when it comes to "job inequalities" and the usual si… | /r/MensRights | 04/08/21 02:50 AM |
| 6 | [Serious] People Who Think Men Are The More Privileged Gender, Why? What Privileges Do They Have?No, it isn't. Again, men are above women when it comes to the HIGHEST intelligence. In other words, "you have a chance to be in the absolute highest tier" if you're a man. Which tends to be right. You also have a chance to be in the absolute lowest tier and be more stupid than anyone else, though, lower than any woman. Which is why I also said that it is an awkward way to put it, if you bother to check. But people here tend to be aware of how the IQ disparity works in the first place. It's more … | /r/MensRights | 04/08/21 02:33 AM |
| 2 | [Serious] People Who Think Men Are The More Privileged Gender, Why? What Privileges Do They Have?Yeah, right, any time something doesn't go the way you want to, it's "stupidity". What a surprise. Still, no, it's not a coincidence. Is it a little too bothersome that the most egalitarian countries of the word tend to fit your "gender stereotypes" as if the culprit wasn't a ghostly patriarchy? Sorry, but biology is a thing. If one tends to look for less "risky" and more "stable" opportunities, it's a biological matter, and not a societal one. And risk-taking behaviour tend to be linked with te… | /r/MensRights | 04/08/21 02:28 AM |
| 3 | What would you do for 24 hours if there were equal rights between men and women?Yet again a case of not being aware that your problems aren't yours alone. Have you already been beaten up to an insane point under these circumstances for any reason? Because plenty of men have. It's not specific to any gender and if anything women tend to be safer. Stop thinking of non-gendered problems as gendered. It only fuels your victimhood complex and is problematic when the goal should be to better society as a whole, for everyone. The main reason behind any difference is testosterone m… | /r/MensRights | 04/08/21 02:04 AM |
| 6 | Is calling men mysogynists the new buzz word ?I'd argue about the "new" part. It's actually quite an old trend, just one that is especially noticeable for some right now. | /r/MensRights | 04/08/21 01:53 AM |
| 1 | What happened to r/mgtow?You may be right, I always assimilated the two of them. But if there's a specific subreddit for pick-up artists, it seems more appropriate for it. Although theredpill is probably more well-known. But in any case, this seems like a description that makes the whole "manosphere" look like a singular thing. | /r/MensRights | 04/08/21 01:52 AM |
| 4 | [Serious] People Who Think Men Are The More Privileged Gender, Why? What Privileges Do They Have?Okay. Let's roll with that, then. I sure hope that you agree that men should be able to pat a woman's breasts and not be punished any more harshly than he would be if he patted her shoulder, then, right? I'm fine with this "topless" argument if it's because breasts shouldn't be seen as a sexual organ (good luck getting me to allow you to touch mine like that. Keep your delusions to yourself) and it's not an intimacy problem. But then you need to be consistent about it. Strangely enough, people u… | /r/MensRights | 04/08/21 01:45 AM |
| 4 | [Serious] People Who Think Men Are The More Privileged Gender, Why? What Privileges Do They Have?Indeed it isn't, as the most egalitarian countries in the world will tell you. The more you let people free to do what they want to do, the more they'll go towards "stereotyped" jobs. Also, as someone that went through HRT, screw you, yes, there are biological differences that lead to differences in ambitions, risk-taking behaviours and overall goals and behaviour. This doesn't make anyone "oppressed" or "sexism". Oh well. I guess it's "internalized sexism" then. | /r/MensRights | 04/08/21 01:38 AM |
| 4 | [Serious] People Who Think Men Are The More Privileged Gender, Why? What Privileges Do They Have?Especially when you consider that women account for a larger voting bloc than men, and politicians pander to their constituency. Add the women-are-wonderful effect and the fact that women tend to have an in-group bias, compared to men's out-group-bias, to this. It makes the whole argument that much more nonsensical. | /r/MensRights | 04/08/21 01:31 AM |
| 1 | What happened to r/mgtow?Well, that definitely wasn't a thing but for a while couple of years ago it was full of food pics since it was all about how men should learn to cook for themselves. If food porn if your thing, I guess it could work... | /r/MensRights | 04/08/21 01:22 AM |
| 2 | What happened to r/mgtow?Not surprising. Most people ended up on MGTOW2 after being banned from MGTOW because a mod thought for some reason that they were too soft (the funny part being that this was often quite arbitrary and really weird sometimes). Even MGTOW ultimately wasn't that racist (since it's the example you used) on average, probably less so than some "common" subreddits I've had the delight to see. I can't see this being the reason for the ban, otherwise, half of reddit would have to be deleted as well. Even… | /r/MensRights | 04/08/21 01:14 AM |
| 1 | What happened to r/mgtow?MGTOW2 was where people that were banned from MGTOW because they were "not extreme enough" (e.g. Allowing women in their space and being respectful towards them) but still wanted to talk about how relationships were useless nowadays went in the first place, genius, it's actually a place where people went because they got tired about the "original" mgtow being too extreme. The fact that you don't know the difference between the two and yet still talk about it says a lot. | /r/MensRights | 04/08/21 12:58 AM |
| 3 | What happened to r/mgtow?You're (or the person that told you about it) confusing it with theredpill. Which fits your description in a really good way. MGTOW was pretty much anti-relationship and tended to consider even one-night stand risky because of the legal traps involved (which ironically made it quite pro-prostitution). Some talked about how they only did ONS, but sharing strategies? That's a new one. That's a TRP thing first and foremost, MGTOW was about avoidance, TRP is about "strategies" if one can really put … | /r/MensRights | 04/08/21 12:49 AM |
| 33 | What happened to r/mgtow is a wake up call for r/mensrightsYou know it'd only make things worse instead. SJW aren't the only ones that don't care about men or have extreme misconceptions about men and women's rights. | /r/MensRights | 04/08/21 12:26 AM |
| 6 | [Serious] People Who Think Men Are The More Privileged Gender, Why? What Privileges Do They Have?Because the person made it quite clear that he was talking about the two extremes of the bell curve when it talked about intelligence just above, where it specifies that men are also the most stupid ones. At this point it was quite clear that it wasn't a "muh all men are smarter" post. Granted, it's said in quite an awkward way since it's said along with strength and intelligence, which are both higher on average. But the second message makes this clearer by specifying that the person was talkin… | /r/MensRights | 04/08/21 12:17 AM |
| 111 | What happened to r/mgtow is a wake up call for r/mensrightsIf anyone wants a proof that it wasn't about "r/mgtow being a bunch of women-hating losers", that's absolutely it. Mgtow2 was way, wayy softer than mgtow. The fact that this sub got hit a well says a lot. | /r/MensRights | 04/08/21 12:02 AM |
| 3 | Erections are not a gauge of intrest, being erect does not mean consent!The usual thinking is that "he wants it anyway". It's not surprising not to hear about it since no one cares about male rape in the first place and male sexuality is demonized anyway, with the male always being seen as a "predator" by default, but it's a commonly used excuse to prove that the man "wanted" to do it no matter what he said at the time. It's brought up fairly frequently in male rape cases to delegitimize the very fact that it was rape. "It couldn't be rape even if he said no, he was… | /r/MensRights | 02/08/21 05:51 PM |
| 2 | Erections are not a gauge of intrest, being erect does not mean consent!The question was legitimate. What made people suspicious afterward was the "forcing yourself on someone who is erect isn't similar to rape at all". I guess the victimhood monopoly is what rubbed people the wrong way. | /r/MensRights | 02/08/21 05:37 PM |
| 0 | Erections are not a gauge of intrest, being erect does not mean consent!Counterpoint: have you ever seen people genuinely saying that forced envelopment isn't rape? We both know (really well) that the answer is yes... So sadly enough this makes it very possible that this is not a troll. Just someone having double standards in their mind... Which makes up for the vast majority of the world population, sadly enough. Saying that it's a proof of trolling would be dismissing the fact that sadly enough a ton of people tend to think this way. | /r/MensRights | 02/08/21 05:35 PM |
| 3 | Erections are not a gauge of intrest, being erect does not mean consent!No, from experience a ton of them have no idea. If you do, that's great, both from experience I've had to explain it to a lot of full-grown adults. Sex ed isn't that great nowadays, particularly when it comes to educating people about men. And there's also this societal stigma of erection = automatically creepy that plays a fairly big role into this as well. I'd like you to be right, but most of my experiences show otherwise. There's also always this "it must have happened because the man though… | /r/MensRights | 02/08/21 05:25 PM |
| 2 | Erections are not a gauge of intrest, being erect does not mean consent!Poor blood circulation can also be a reason, if I remember well. | /r/MensRights | 02/08/21 05:20 PM |
| 2 | Erections are not a gauge of intrest, being erect does not mean consent!That's actually one hell of a problem. I remember having to explain it to a good half of my exes and to many friends, that just weren't aware that a man having an erection didn't necessarily mean that he was excited or anything of the sort. And these people were adult and around and over 20. So, not even teenagers. Since when it comes to men AND boy teenagers, they are CONSTANTLY being bombarded with the whole "a woman being wet != consent" and a 3 652 320 arbitrary and possibly sexist rules abo… | /r/MensRights | 02/08/21 05:10 PM |
| 11 | My ex girlfriend cheated on me, then called the police. I'm not allowed in my own house.Poisonous m&m's analogy. If you can't get it, it's your own problem. It's the only smart move when the legal system is literally stacked against you. Assume that everyone will do it, because the government sure isn't going to help you if it eventually happens. So you have to make it so that the circumstances leading to you being screwed will never happen in the first place. This means being suspicious of everyone, since people aren't mind-readers and the lack of deterrent when it comes to this k… | /r/MensRights | 06/06/21 02:29 PM |
| 1 | The pro-choice crowd "suddenly" becomes anti-choice the second anyone dares try to advocate for the male right to choose (to not pay child support)Nope, this is true of pretty much every country where abortion is ok and paid by the state. France is just a notable exemple because of how DNA tests work there which adds an extra burden on the father. Thinking that the reasons men get screwed are related to women's abortion right is stupid to no end. But please, give me proof that allowing abortion will magically improve men's condition? Other than you using that as an excuse to somehow blame "the patriarchy" for men's lack of reproductive rig… | /r/MensRights | 25/05/21 12:52 AM |
| 2 | Feminists shutting down a men's suicide awareness event.This is absurd.If you want to troll that much, at least try to be a tad creative, because at this point this is just boring. | /r/MensRights | 25/05/21 12:49 AM |
| 2 | Feminists shutting down a men's suicide awareness event.This is absurd.Yeah, yeah, no answer... Word of advice: the next time you try to do some trolling, avoid using a name that is mostly used in the manosphere and that feminists absolutely know nothing about in the first place. | /r/MensRights | 25/05/21 12:35 AM |
| 4 | The pro-choice crowd "suddenly" becomes anti-choice the second anyone dares try to advocate for the male right to choose (to not pay child support)A man can’t get pregnant. This has much less to do with “misandry” and much more to do with plain old biology. Okay, then let's roll with your "biology" answer. No abortion for anyone, ever. Let's use hangers for them again. Also, no child support neither, because this isn't a "biological factor". It's something that has 100% been created by society and doesn't exist if you only care about "biology". Nice hypocrisy. Haa the patriarchy. Why am I not surprised. Feminism and this level of hypocrisy… | /r/MensRights | 25/05/21 12:31 AM |
| 2 | The pro-choice crowd "suddenly" becomes anti-choice the second anyone dares try to advocate for the male right to choose (to not pay child support)Yeah, nope. France has abortion allowed and entirely paid by the state, and no one is "letting men off the hook". Quite the opposite. Hell, a man can't even do a DNA test without the mother's or a judge's (and you know how biased justice is, so this isn't any better) consent. So, keep dreaming. How men are treated aren't a "the poor women have it hard because of abortion laws" problem; never has been, never will be. | /r/MensRights | 25/05/21 12:19 AM |
| 1 | Feminists shutting down a men's suicide awareness event.This is absurd.No, that's for sure since there are men that are just as stupid there. They tend to have an IDEOLOGY though. And while your gender alone doesn't make you stupid, an ideology can. That's the real problem. Of course there are male idiots as well. You can see some at this very event. | /r/MensRights | 25/05/21 12:01 AM |
| 2 | Feminists shutting down a men's suicide awareness event.This is absurd.Keep your trolling away, it's getting tiring to see you put words in people's mouth just to create conflict. Sane women should be listened to. Sane men should be listened to. It just happens that most of the time, feminists don't fit the "sane" label, and pseudo-"feminists" don't know enough about the movement (even the duluth model is a foreign concept to most of them) to have an enlightened viewpoint on the matter. That, or they''re just hypocrites that "support equality" but throw a fit any t… | /r/MensRights | 24/05/21 11:55 PM |
| 1 | Feminists shutting down a men's suicide awareness event.This is absurd.Food for thoughts: https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/695m34/karen_straughans_response_to_those_arent_real/ What actually matters is the ones in power. Also, these pseudo-"extremists" are dangerous just by existing in the movement. Humans as a whole are opportunistic by nature, and that includes women as well. And I've seen way, way too many formerly "nice feminists really caring about equality" for years or decades, the kind you're defending by saying that "feminism is like that", bec… | /r/MensRights | 24/05/21 11:40 PM |
| 2 | Feminists shutting down a men's suicide awareness event.This is absurd.Which isn't the same as listening to feminists, and guess what? A fairly big number of women DO NOT identify themselves as feminists. If to you, women = feminists, then that's even better, because you literally take away women's right to believe or not in a particular ideology; because that's what feminism is. But yeah, I understand, it's easier to say "talking to women", this way if someone tells you that you're stupid you can just shout "SEXISM" and that's it (and you still are stupid by the w… | /r/MensRights | 24/05/21 11:17 PM |
| 3 | Feminists shutting down a men's suicide awareness event.This is absurd.Toxic masculinity doesn't exist, and pretending that the problems are caused by "toxic masculinity" is, in fact, what would probably be the closest thing to "toxic masculinity" if it did, because of how it is used to sweep real and complicated problems that aren't caused by "gender roles" and voila under the carpet. The reason men that don't conform to these gender norms have problems isn't "gender roles", what you call "gender roles" is merely a survival mechanism used against other problems, a… | /r/MensRights | 24/05/21 11:08 PM |
| 2 | Feminists shutting down a men's suicide awareness event.This is absurd.Yeah, yeah, go on with the stupid insults instead of actually answering. You don't even know its definition. Period. And that'sstraight out of the horse's mouth. You're just yet another dishonest person playing the definition game, just like every other one that suddenly shift to the "historical definition" any time it's useful. Also, talking to women != talking to feminists and knowing about feminism. Shocking, I know. | /r/MensRights | 24/05/21 11:01 PM |
| 2 | Feminists shutting down a men's suicide awareness event.This is absurd.Good thing feminists themselves constantly play the motte-and-bailey game with your prized "dictionary definition" then, by adding that you need to take the historical context into account any time men's problems are brought up. No, you don't know anything about feminists; and certainly not more than people that are constantly debating with them. I'm still waiting to see these fabled "real feminists" any time paper abortion is brought up. And nice job proving that you're a perfect example of the… | /r/MensRights | 24/05/21 10:56 PM |
| 1 | Feminists shutting down a men's suicide awareness event.This is absurd.I'll copy/paste my own comment about this from a few days ago (although I've been saying this for a while now) https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/nd3qw9/it_is_ok_for_men_to_cry_our_hearts_can_and_are/gyb9xdj/ "Gender roles" never were THE issue. A vast majority of men "gave in to the tempation" and tried "opening up". And what caused problems isn't "gender roles". Look at feminists, who are the first ones to tell men to open up, but ALSO the first ones to use what the man said against … | /r/MensRights | 24/05/21 10:31 PM |
| 3 | I’m tired of the hate on ‘creepy’ menAnd once again you're the one adding "sexually" here. Which is what I already explained countless times before. You're changing the whole context of this discussion. This isn't about "approaching women sexually". If this was just about a few idiot cat-calling you, there wouldn't be a problem at all. But it's not. It's about everyday social contacts. Also, women can also be called creepy, but society tends to be considerably more lenient on them, unsurprisingly. | /r/MensRights | 16/05/21 10:05 PM |
| 3 | I’m tired of the hate on ‘creepy’ menBzz, wrong. I'm actually not concerned by this, neither pro-HRT, nor now. But your name-calling really says a lot about you and how you understand this problem. You absolutely want to blame the "victims", so to say. We're talking about men "doing things right". You just absolutely can't process this, as you want an easy answer to a fairly complicated problem. Well, good for you and for this guy, then, I guess! But you aren't representative of everyone, and that's the problem. I find it stupid to… | /r/MensRights | 16/05/21 09:58 PM |
| 1 | It is OK for men to cry. Our hearts can, and are, broken by women too.That's pretty much what it is, in the end. And like all religions, it offers "easy answers" to complicated problems. A mainstay in religions. Yes, hence my "Don't lose your shit" as in "stay in control" in this context. In some situations, it is certainly a valuable skill one should have (and this applies to both men and women); it applies to both genders in the end. My point was mainly that the idea shouldn't be to wholly throw it away, but that one should take the "good" part of it and throw a… | /r/MensRights | 16/05/21 09:20 PM |
| 5 | I’m tired of the hate on ‘creepy’ menYour "exceptional advice" misses the whole point of the thread in the first place, which is the problem. It's not about men showing interest, as in, confessing or whatever else. It's about showing interest as in, knowing that it is the "right" time to strike a conversation with someone. As such, your "advice" is off-topic and still relies on the man starting a conversation with you... For no other reason than the fact that you're standing next to him, which apparently is enough to signal interes… | /r/MensRights | 16/05/21 09:08 PM |
| 8 | I’m tired of the hate on ‘creepy’ menBack off immediately if you don't get an enthusiastic response and you should be fine. This is overly simplistic. Some people I am working with definitely don't give an "enthusiastic response". That doesn't mean that they're not interested. They're just either shy or not that good socially, but they still enjoy people talking to them without any problem. They just aren't the kind to give "enthusiastic responses"; it's not who they are socially. But that doesn't make them asocial or uninterested.… | /r/MensRights | 16/05/21 07:21 PM |
| 3 | I’m tired of the hate on ‘creepy’ menAka how to get #metooed 101. That's the kind of advices guys believe that make them think that "it's fine to try my luck", just to be considered creepy afterward. Because the one who said this doesn't realize that this is heavily subjective. Once again, men are expected to be mind-readers, and the ones saying that "it's easy, just [x]" don't even realize that they're expecting it in the first place. Typical. | /r/MensRights | 16/05/21 06:58 PM |
| 4 | I’m tired of the hate on ‘creepy’ menExcept that the pseudo-indicators you're talking about are all extremely subjective anyway, and is actually what get some men that were trying to "do things well" (or even men who didn't ask for anything and were just standing here) to be called creepy or harassers because of misinterpretations. Avoid trying to "give advices" if you can't separate your own experience from the complexity of the situation as a whole. People here are talking about the fact that trying to start a conversation is, by… | /r/MensRights | 16/05/21 06:54 PM |
| 2 | It is OK for men to cry. Our hearts can, and are, broken by women too.I don't really know the RP community that much neither, since I heavily disagree with it, but after spending enough time on the what they call the "manosphere" you more or less know the different actors that are present in it. "Don't lose your shit" as in "stay in control" in this context. In some situations, it is certainly a valuable skill one should have (and this applies to both men and women); the example I was specifically had in mind when I said that it can be useful is job interviews. Or… | /r/MensRights | 16/05/21 06:26 PM |
| 3 | Have you had a discussion with a feminist about feminism? If so, how did it went?Most feminists are terrible to talk to if you're talking about things where women are actually privileged. It's not restricted to radfems at all. Try talking to a "moderate" about men's reproductive rights and paper abortion. Have fun. The ""moderates"" are only fine when 1/ you acknowledge the patriarchy 2/ equality doesn't mean that women have to lose an advantage that they have. Most feminists, even the radfems ones, can look sane if you avoid sensitive topics. You can only measure how "since… | /r/MensRights | 16/05/21 12:05 PM |
| 3 | Have you had a discussion with a feminist about feminism? If so, how did it went?-"YOU DON'T KNOW ABOUT REAL FEMINISM!" I then proceed to show her that I probably know about feminism and its dark sides way more than her, using documents and statistics about things like DV, the duluth model, rape statistics, etc etc in order to prove that most of their "arguments" are nonsense and that they're the direct CAUSE of many problems (like battered men not speaking up because they are likely to be arrested for it). -"YOU'RE JUST MISOGYNISTIC" That's usually how it goes | /r/MensRights | 16/05/21 12:04 PM |
| 62 | I’m tired of the hate on ‘creepy’ menIt's even more complicated tan that. You have to take into account that what is creepy to one woman might be the right way to do it for another (of course we're talking about "creepy" being used to define "someone out of my comfort zone" here, not about "creepy" being used to describe an asshole catcalling you and saying "HEY, DO ME A BLOWJOB!" in the middle of the street). If the woman is very social, walking on eggshells while talking to her as you would with a another woman (to avoid being to… | /r/MensRights | 16/05/21 11:36 AM |
| 2 | It is OK for men to cry. Our hearts can, and are, broken by women too.It's basically red piller lingo, so it's kind of surprising that you never heard about it. The basic meaning is supposed to be "stay in control of your mindset and stay in control of your interactions with the world", basically. Not a bad advice per se, and it's a better one than "man up", but it's used so much and so many situation that it shouldn't be used in that it could be a meme. Unlike "man up", which is sexist nonsense in any case, the idea of "maintaining frame" can have some value in s… | /r/MensRights | 16/05/21 11:20 AM |
| 6 | It is OK for men to cry. Our hearts can, and are, broken by women too.Emotional men have to hold in emotions because the problem isn't them "not having the right to cry" because of "gender roles". It's actually people not listening. Look at feminists. They're the ones constantly parroting "men should cry as well" (to the point of labelling someone that doesn't want to as TM and indrocrinated). It doesn't stop them from using a man opening up against him. Whether the man cry or not and how it is seen for a man to cry is honestly a detail. What must change is the ot… | /r/MensRights | 16/05/21 11:06 AM |
| 5 | It is OK for men to cry. Our hearts can, and are, broken by women too.The basic idea is that whether men have the right to cry or not doesn't matter. After all, the ones that are saying "MeN ShOuLd cRy aS WeLl !!!§" the most also tend to be the ones using a man exposing his weaknesses against him the most in the end. So it's nothing but empty words. And men are often told to they MUST cry, otherwise they're indoctrinated by gender roles, which is wrong as well, a man should only cry if he really want it or need it. Forcing people who don't want to to expose themse… | /r/MensRights | 16/05/21 10:36 AM |
| 2 | UK: Female student, 29, who said 'women have vaginas' and are 'not as strong as men' faces disciplinary action by university after fellow classmates complained about the 'offensive and discriminatory' commentsfunnily enough, this post seems to have attracted quite a lot of them. I don't remember so many hostile reactions and strawmen when I talked about it some months ago. The problem is probably the fact that the OP is talking about trans people at the expense of the subject. I mean, trans people that aren't obsessed with victimization can get that this is about the GENERAL situation and that they are exceptions; and if they asked the person, they'd just say "yeah sure, whatever, transpeople too" if… | /r/MensRights | 15/05/21 11:52 PM |
| 1 | UK: Female student, 29, who said 'women have vaginas' and are 'not as strong as men' faces disciplinary action by university after fellow classmates complained about the 'offensive and discriminatory' commentsIt's not exactly restricted to the right, try to be a transperson that doesn't agree with the "we should obey to EVERY SINGLE whims any transperson has" and you'll see that the left isn't much better about this, sadly enough. I personally don't like the "gender vs sex" dichotomy because it has been twisted in stupid ways, but it's sadly still the best way of describing it that we have right now. Thanks to extremists on both sides. Also, sociological standpoint is a misnaming in my opinion, since… | /r/MensRights | 15/05/21 11:48 PM |
| 1 | UK: Female student, 29, who said 'women have vaginas' and are 'not as strong as men' faces disciplinary action by university after fellow classmates complained about the 'offensive and discriminatory' commentsBut it is VERY important to make that distinction when discussing trans rights and few here are. That's where you lose me. "When discussing trans rights" in this context means "EVERY SINGLE TIME YOU TALK ABOUT MEN OR WOMEN". Thus, VERY often. Nope. She wasn't "discussing trans rights" specifically. And if this counts as "discussing trans rights", the the umbrella is too big. It's just stupid. Again, context matters. Someone saying that as an answer to someone defending trans people (except maybe… | /r/MensRights | 15/05/21 11:37 PM |
| 2 | UK: Female student, 29, who said 'women have vaginas' and are 'not as strong as men' faces disciplinary action by university after fellow classmates complained about the 'offensive and discriminatory' commentsFirst, in the mind of pretty much everyone, women is short for biological woman. Second, sot everyone in the world uses trans lingo, sorry to break your bubble. And it never will, and that's a good thing. What makes you think that trans people should be special regarding this? It's the same problem as black humor. If some jokes towards [x] can't be said because "they can be offensive", why would it be okay to tell a joke about, say, a banker? Maybe one of the people that'll hear about it eventua… | /r/MensRights | 15/05/21 11:23 PM |
| 2 | UK: Female student, 29, who said 'women have vaginas' and are 'not as strong as men' faces disciplinary action by university after fellow classmates complained about the 'offensive and discriminatory' commentsThe problem is that "woman" refers to BOTH woman as a gender, and "woman" as a sex. There's nothing offensive about saying that women (sex) are born with a vagina. Now, women as a gender, that's a different story; and even that could work if it's a general statement not accounting for the exceptions (again, good luck if you want to take into account EVERY SINGLE exception in ANYTHING you say). CJ is a woman (gender). Not a woman (sex). Which doesn't make any less of a woman, but that's not what … | /r/MensRights | 15/05/21 11:08 PM |
| 1 | UK: Female student, 29, who said 'women have vaginas' and are 'not as strong as men' faces disciplinary action by university after fellow classmates complained about the 'offensive and discriminatory' commentsBeing accepting of the trans community doesn't mean following the whims of every single person in the trans community. As a general rule, men are born with a penis and women with a vagina. Trans people are the "exception to the rule" in this situation. And even then, it depends of whether you use woman as an indication for SEX or as an indication for a GENDER. In the first case, it's the same thing as "AFAB". So, not offensive at all. Wanting to change everything for a few exceptions is the prob… | /r/MensRights | 15/05/21 10:52 PM |
| 2 | Got called abusive and manipulative for trying to help my gf.This reeks of either projection (as in, she would be the kind of person to do this, as a power move) or deep insecurity (as in, "I'm not able to trust others, everything they'd do is trying to control me around using this"). In the second situation, I'd be willing to accept someone saying that in their opinion, it isn't good to rely on others to much, since it can hinder one's growth; but that's another subject entirely, and it would be less accusatory, since it includes everyone in the relation… | /r/MensRights | 15/05/21 08:01 PM |
| 8 | Got called abusive and manipulative for trying to help my gf.Nah, she's probably just projecting her own insecurities. -"If I can't do anything, it's because of others controlling me, it can't be because of myself!!". Add to that a massive ammount of insecurity when it comes to relying on other people. -Another woman has someone else to rely on, something she can't have since she can't process the idea of relying on others. -"IT MUST BE BECAUSE HE'S PATRONIZING HER, HE'S A MANIPULATOR" I guess it could fit into "jealousy" as well, but honestly, this kind … | /r/MensRights | 15/05/21 07:48 PM |
| 10 | Got called abusive and manipulative for trying to help my gf.Well, some of these people just hide it very well so you're surprised once you learn the truth. And the problem is that you usually only learn the truth once you've grown to trust them, sometimes above your own judgement; which results in a ton of people believing the accuser over their own mind, particularly if you're a good person that is fine questioning itself . This is typical gaslighting and a very common practice against men (mainly because society doesn't even recognize the existence of … | /r/MensRights | 15/05/21 07:42 PM |
| 3 | UK: Female student, 29, who said 'women have vaginas' and are 'not as strong as men' faces disciplinary action by university after fellow classmates complained about the 'offensive and discriminatory' commentsStupid wordplay being used to push an ideology and deny reality, that's basically how. They're using the fact that "women" as a gender and "women" as a sex is the same word (and no, silly, you can't say "female" to dodge the problem neither since it is dehumanizing!) and basically want you to recreate your whole language in a way that fits them (rather than calling a MtF trans a MtF trans, it is a woman and it's THE WHOLE WORLD that has to be "AFAB" (assigned female at birth) instead. | /r/MensRights | 15/05/21 07:21 PM |
| -2 | UK: Female student, 29, who said 'women have vaginas' and are 'not as strong as men' faces disciplinary action by university after fellow classmates complained about the 'offensive and discriminatory' commentsYeah, transphobic trans for some of them apparently, sure. Internalized transphobia, I guess? Not to mention that what he's saying is nonsense anyway since people aren't talking about gender here, but sex. And you should know that, since you're that "up to date" with gender studies (which are absolute nonsense anyway). And that's ignoring the fact that no matter what gender studies will tell yu, there are biological differences between men and women; which is the very basis of trans-identity. u/… | /r/MensRights | 15/05/21 07:15 PM |
| 1 | Got called abusive and manipulative for trying to help my gf.This is the exact reason I stopped being a problem-solver, particularly for others. It backfires way too often and then you're called manipulative for attempted to, you know, solve the problem and the suffering instead of just repeating empty words about it. You aren't, and the fact that you're carrying the meds has one obvious answer that this idiot apparently didn't think about since he or she apparently think your gf is a perfect being: your gf is only human and can forget her meds. And if sh… | /r/MensRights | 15/05/21 07:01 PM |
| 10 | “Say something nice” and “food.” How sad that the bar has been set this low for so many men. One commenter said a woman called him handsome 4 years ago and he hasn’t forgotten it.It's usually only the norm during the honeymoon phase. Basically, when the woman still has to "prove herself" to the man. Afterward, it disappears as long as the man is concerned. Men actively asking for it, or any kind of consideration, really (which is what they're told to do, in order to ""shatter gender roles!!!"), are either considered needy, or, alternatively, manipulative. So much for men and """toxic masculinity""" being the problem. Interestingly enough, on the other side, as I said in … | /r/MensRights | 14/05/21 07:45 PM |
| 5 | “Say something nice” and “food.” How sad that the bar has been set this low for so many men. One commenter said a woman called him handsome 4 years ago and he hasn’t forgotten it.Nope. That's the problem. That's the case for a lot of men that are in a relationship as well. Which make women making checklists supposedly "proving" that "no, women don't want a perfect man" all the more ridiculous. "I JUST want a man that supports me blah blah blah". Ok, fine, fair enough. But would you be able to support HIM and uplift him to the same extend? In a lot of cases, the answer is no. And more often than not, and that's where the real problem lies, if the man dare to ASK for it, t… | /r/MensRights | 14/05/21 07:22 PM |
| 2 | The "rape culture" is an overblown myth.Hilariously enough, metoo probably had one role when it comes "rape culture towards women". For some people, it broke the tendency people naturally had to immediately believe the woman, no matter the proofs. The concept of rape was taken seriously even before metoo. TOO seriously in fact, and people more often than not weren't willing to accept that some people lie about this for various reasons, be it to ruin someone's life, to escape accountability for your own action, or to hide your own stup… | /r/MensRights | 09/05/21 01:45 PM |
| 1 | As a hardcore supporter of men’s rights i believe this sub has become less about men’s rights and more about how women have it better than us or why they are bad.Given some answers that are downright ridiculous and some of the people here there is clearly some brigading going on right now | /r/MensRights | 16/04/21 12:19 AM |
| 0 | As a hardcore supporter of men’s rights i believe this sub has become less about men’s rights and more about how women have it better than us or why they are bad.He asked for an example for your "A LOT of negative crap", genius. Keyword: 'a lot'. You're the one with comprehension problems, apparently | /r/MensRights | 16/04/21 12:16 AM |
| 5 | Nigeria had an International Twitter Men's Day in response to feminists boycotting the platform.And finally, feminism would be for equality and would allow for men if it didn't actively lobbied against "pro-men" stuff just to ensure we can't have better things As I answered myself, it's easy to pretend that you're in favor of something as long as it doesn't cost you anything. The only way to see whether a feminist is good (= not a feminist) or bad is to argue about something that would cause women to actually lose some of their privileges. Otherwise, it's just lip-service. And lip-service … | /r/MensRights | 10/04/21 11:52 PM |
| 7 | Nigeria had an International Twitter Men's Day in response to feminists boycotting the platform.Then try arguing about paper abortion. Tell us the result afterward. The problem with feminism (and people using the argument that "it's about equality" as a whole, often because of either naivety or willful ignorance) is, ironically, the fallacy feminists tend to use the most and the one they almost immediately use when they're trapped into a corner. The motte and bailey. Feminists say that feminism is about equality, except that there's a general definition (equality for everyone, period) and … | /r/MensRights | 10/04/21 11:16 PM |
| 3 | There is no ‘rape culture’ in schools: Education’s ‘#MeToo moment’ is not a scandal – it’s a moral panic over teenage sexThe only "rape culture" there is in the west is a rape culture towards men. And only men that are raped by women, at that. That's about it. People talking about anything else either 1/ don't know the definition of the expression 2/ is into delusional victimhood 3/ both at once. | /r/MensRights | 04/04/21 04:54 PM |
| 1 | I believe that men and women should be equal.That's already taken into account when you say "equality of opportunity" though... what you're describing here is equality of outcome. The problem is that our current system isn't about equality of opportunity. So you let less effective people in in the name of a label. But the idea of "equality of opportunity" IS supposed to take that into account. | /r/MensRights | 04/04/21 04:41 PM |
| 1 | I believe that men and women should be equal.Except that you don't know what you're talking about. People justify men being paid more, but because it's an EARNING gap, not a WAGE gap. People don't say that "men should be paid more"; they say that the disparity is normal because of the context when you see the full statistics. People here are against special treatment. Period. If men being paid more isn't caused by any "special treatment", it's fine. And the onlyfan example is stupid. Worst-case scenario, call it slut-shaming, which is stup… | /r/MensRights | 04/04/21 04:36 PM |
| 7 | As a female, I didn't realize Men are not allowed to be playful...I think you partly answered your own question yourself. The disgust is probably because it makes you extremely uncomfortable more than anything else. That's the same reason men are often said "not to care" when other men tell them their problems. When there's nothing you can do, you're in an uncomfortable situation. Men are problem-solvers first and foremost when it comes to supporting others (hence women complaining that "he doesn't listen to me and always try to come up with solutions" when th… | /r/MensRights | 25/03/21 11:49 AM |
| 1 | As a female, I didn't realize Men are not allowed to be playful...The one thing these things always lack is the opposite viewpoint of someone that is living this life, and enjoying it, in a NON-CARICATURAL way. As said above, it's the same deal as girls and STEM. It's always shown as if being "traditionally masculine" (no matter how one feels about it) was inherently a bad thing. Just like how being a stay-at-home mom is a bad thing as well (ok, it is nowadays, but only because one salary is rarely enough for a household from an economical standpoint and not b… | /r/MensRights | 25/03/21 03:51 AM |
| 1 | As a female, I didn't realize Men are not allowed to be playful...Basically: from one extreme to another. Being against the ENFORCEMENT of one "culture" has to mean that said "culture" is evil. If you think about it, it's the exact same as women that MUST ABSOLUTELY GO INTO STEM, NO MATTER WHAT YOU WANT GIRL, SHUT UP AND GO INTO STEM!!. So much for tolerance and respecting one's personal choices... | /r/MensRights | 25/03/21 03:37 AM |
| 13 | As a female, I didn't realize Men are not allowed to be playful...They're willing to invest ressources in it; but only if the answer is "dismantling the patriarchy". If the answer is "treating men like human beings too, and using or manipulating them is bad", then it becomes too much to ask for. Basically, it's fine to invest ressources when it comes to stopping MEN from making other MEN suffer (and even that is an HUGE stretch, most of the time, really). Anything else? Nah, screw you, even if you were abused for 3 years it still doesn't justify you raising yo… | /r/MensRights | 25/03/21 03:29 AM |
| 9 | As a female, I didn't realize Men are not allowed to be playful...It's not a "men only" group, don't worry. It's just that there has been way too many people coming here saying "we're for gender equality!!" while also spewing misandrist rhetoric any time men talk about real issues. It's one of the main reason MRA stopped trying to "be nice" with feminists in the first place. It's thanks to feminism's motte and bailey, the most common trick in the book you'll be confronted to when debating feminists, Quote; "The motte-and-bailey fallacy is probably the fallacy … | /r/MensRights | 25/03/21 02:56 AM |
| 1 | Is rape Culture a myth?The only credit I can give him is that if things continue the way they are, most women WILL indeed become like that. But it's not a "woman" problem. It's a "cultural indoctrination" one, a political/sociological mixed with opportunism one. The next generations certainly aren't going to be pretty if they're raised in a society that teach them that only their feelings matter, no matter how nonsensical they may be, and that all males are [x]. This is going to have an influence on society at large i… | /r/MensRights | 25/03/21 12:21 AM |
| 8 | Is rape Culture a myth?You don't even need to go to any prison. Rape culture is defined as Rape culture is a sociological concept for a setting in which rape is pervasive and normalized due to societal attitudes about gender and sexuality. Rape culture is pretty much a thing. For men, that is. Even outside of prisons, rape is only normalized and not taken seriously towards one gender. Rape culture != "there's a lot of rapes going on"; that's how it is often used but that's not what it means at all. Your girlfriend mak… | /r/MensRights | 25/03/21 12:01 AM |
| 61 | As a female, I didn't realize Men are not allowed to be playful...The good old' "men are allowed to cry" is only allowed by feminists and the likes because allowing men to be vulnerable can be used against them. Just look at how the ones pretending to be for equality but ONLY bringing this "argument" to the table always behave when a man actually shows his vulnerabilities in a way that isn't beneficial to the other side. They tend to suddenly "become" the biggest sexists there are. Men are allowed to cry if it's to complain about what other men or "the patriar… | /r/MensRights | 24/03/21 11:40 PM |
| 2 | Warning just my opinion!Yeah, sure. Two words. "Paper abortion". Say goodbye to your friends and "moderate feminists". It's the ultimate limus test. Feminists argue for what THEY consider to be equal rights. = the patriarchy, gender roles, etc, are the source of most of the problems. That's fight "defending equal rights". It's "defending equal rights if they fit with my ideologies and postulates. People here probably know feminists better than you (hell, they know feminism and its history better than nearly all feminis… | /r/MensRights | 23/03/21 02:22 AM |
| 6 | Am I a misandrist?Clear and concise. Congrats. Outside of the obvious gender reversal and the fact that it addresses the definition, it also shows that she has empathy for men, which further proves your point. | /r/MensRights | 23/03/21 01:46 AM |
| 1 | Am I a misandrist?If you're wondering about it in the first place, you likely aren't. People here can't be sure, we're not in your mind, but you're aware that the fact that you're uncomfortable is related to your past and that it's not just because "all women are systematically scared of men, and MEN need to change everything for us to feel better!" or whatever else and question it. It goes against the usual misandry you'll usually find, which make people feel good about it. That's one of the difference. Thinking… | /r/MensRights | 23/03/21 01:43 AM |
| 3 | A man should have the legal power to withdraw from child support that results from unwanted pregnancies.I doesn't for you because you're sexist and don't care about equal rights. That's about it. Which is not consenting to parenthood. I hope you're against abortion since you really seem to like saying such nonsense. Yes it is for the man. It's the very idea of what you just said above. Again, you're just a sexist pig filled with double standards, that's about it. Are you serious now? "CUMMING INTO A VAGINA MEANS BEING RESPONSIBLE!!" Also I've read some of your other crap and no, abortion isn't "ta… | /r/MensRights | 23/03/21 01:21 AM |
| 4 | Are girls who kick boys in the balls hard in anger or for some twisted sense of joy/satisfaction as a girl ANY better than boys who violently put girls in that kind of agony and/or grope them? How?but I feel like most people would probably agree if someone assaults you they deserve to be hit back. As a woman myself I totally advocate for dropkicking anyone who hits you, no matter the gender. That's nice, but sadly, nope. Most people wouldn't "probably agree". A majority still think that men should accept being punching balls, or that suddenly they should become a martial art experts able to restrict a serious attacker without hurting them at.all, which is harder than it sounds (there's a … | /r/MensRights | 23/03/21 01:09 AM |
| 2 | A man should have the legal power to withdraw from child support that results from unwanted pregnancies.I love how automatic it is for men to HAVE TO carry the burden for the woman's choice; and how the woman isn't even blamed for it in the first place. When the man gets chained for 18 years, it's just "life sucks", but there's not not one single word to acknowledge that the one deciding whether to abort or not should be the one dealing with the responsibilities. This is literally about making innocent people that had NO SAY IN THE MATTER AT ALL pay for the "culprit"'s own decision, without holdin… | /r/MensRights | 22/03/21 10:20 PM |
| 4 | A man should have the legal power to withdraw from child support that results from unwanted pregnancies.No, it's the responsibility of the mother. The woman deciding of everything regarding abortion means that he has no responsibility in the matter if he would have wanted to abort, and the mother didn't. Therefore, he can't be held accountable for the mother's choice. Sex, sex=consent to pregnancy? Ok. Let's forbid abortion then though. It's funny how paper abortion always makes pro-abortion people suddenly use the most cliche anti-abortion statements. No, he had no say in it. See above. It's on t… | /r/MensRights | 22/03/21 09:35 PM |
| 3 | The feminist argument against False rape accusationsThe use of these so-called "statistics" is just pure deception that make a question with multiple answers sound like a binary question. Let's have fun playing this little game, sure. Let's look at how many PROVED cases there is. It's just a classic feminist scam. Distorted, or straight-up false, statistics. | /r/MensRights | 22/03/21 06:45 PM |
| 1 | Men's say for their child if their mother wants an abortion.I'm perfectly calm... You're not, though, I'm not the one that resorts to "bleeeh no one would ever want you" in every single post, y'know? Well, I didn't expect any better from a feminist though. Quit projecting. No, I'm just not indoctrinated so a dogma isn't eating 75% of my IQ. You should try it. Risk and consent are the same thing in this situation, since YOU assume that because of a RISK, the father has a RESPONSIBILITY. Which makes no sense. But then again, it's not sexist enough for you … | /r/MensRights | 22/03/21 06:21 PM |
| 4 | A man should have the legal power to withdraw from child support that results from unwanted pregnancies.The well-being of the child is the mother's responsibility, since the man had no say in the matter when it comes to abortion and can only wait for the mother to decide. Making the blame fall on an innocent man isn't any better than making it fall on the child. The real answer is paper abortion + educating people to be responsible when it comes to having children. Certainly not making the hammer fall on someone that had no say on the matter. The one bearing the responsibility is the mother, so sh… | /r/MensRights | 22/03/21 06:16 PM |
| 2 | A man should have the legal power to withdraw from child support that results from unwanted pregnancies.It's rich to call someone moronic despite the fact that you're the one that completely misunderstood this person's answer. And it's not his fault, because what he's saying is quite clear. "It'd be expensive to do it" "We authorize other things that are just as expensive" and of course you interpreted this as "let's ban birth out of wedlock", rather than "it's stupid to say that while we already allow things that cost just as much, and that essentially have the same consequences". Also, yes, west… | /r/MensRights | 22/03/21 06:08 PM |
| 1 | Men's say for their child if their mother wants an abortion.Yeah, right, because feminism totally is about equality and women are sooo socioeconomically disadvantaged. Equality isn't dominance or being privileged. I know what sexism is. I'd have an hard time not knowing it with you displaying a ridiculous amount of it for a while now. Sure, change the name if you want to. Nobody care ands people will keep calling it this way anyway, since the world doesn't care about your ridiculous caprices. Call it something else if you want to, the only thing that mat… | /r/MensRights | 22/03/21 05:37 PM |
| 1 | Are you socially conservative or socially progressive?It'd be a lie to say that wokes aren't supported by progressists or the left (mainly for electoral reasons, I'm sure, but still). While wokes aren't "the left", they definitely parasitized it. Sadly enough. Heeem. The problem is that wokes actually have political support that give them way too much influence. My country, that used to be universalist and against any kind of communitarianism before anything else, basically doesn't have any "real" (= that make more than 5%) left that hasn't been in… | /r/MensRights | 22/03/21 06:46 AM |
| 3 | Are you socially conservative or socially progressive?Non-SJW progressive. These ones are a cancer that absolutely progressists, I can't even blame the one generalizing progressists at this point. They destroyed progressism just that much. | /r/MensRights | 22/03/21 06:37 AM |
| 3 | Most feminists are completely lost right now, and they're taking men with them into ruin.Next answer: "but it's limited to male behaviour since TM is about traditionally male behaviour!!! That's why it's called TM, because it's focused on traditionally masculine traits!" Yes, because jealousy, putting each other down, throwing a fit, which is in the end just a more polite way to say being angry and verbally attacking others because of it, or being controlling are totally restricted to "traditional males behaviours". To-ta-lly. Funnily enough, feminism does acknowledge toxic feminini… | /r/MensRights | 22/03/21 06:16 AM |
| 11 | The problem with the term "Patriarchy"Feminism is feminism. Try talking about paper abortion to most of the "moderates" one. You'll discover the radical ones. The true moderates ones usually get kicked out of feminism. Which is the problem. People here care about women's right. They just don't drink the feminist kool-aid that makes patriarchy the devil and gender roles the source of any and all problems; that's a surface level analysis that has no value. Women's rights aren't the issue themselves, people support them as long as they… | /r/MensRights | 22/03/21 05:35 AM |
| 6 | Social experiment: How customers react to a woman vs. man crying in publicNot him but I still disagree. I'd change one word to make it better in my opinion. The only experience most people acknowledge with men losing control of their emotions is when they express rage through violence. | /r/MensRights | 22/03/21 05:26 AM |
| 4 | my mom just called me a sexist piece of garbage because i was complaining about how you get attacked on twitter if you even breathe as a manNot all women. However, this is still a thing. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women-are-wonderful_effect#In-group_bias Saying "all" is a generalization, but it's still a global biological/societal/whatever else is causing it tendency regarding women as a social category (as in, women as a category defined by sociology). They have an in-group bias men don't have. | /r/MensRights | 22/03/21 05:18 AM |
| 1 | my mom just called me a sexist piece of garbage because i was complaining about how you get attacked on twitter if you even breathe as a manI assume he was mainly referring to the women-are-wonderful effect. Although it is very poorly worded and needlessly hostile. Talking about in-group bias and out-group bias would get the point across just as well, and would benefit from being a systemic observation and not a personal attack. | /r/MensRights | 22/03/21 05:13 AM |
| 1 | Men's say for their child if their mother wants an abortion.People mostly don't downvote this. This is a rather sensible take. What people people downvote is sexist nonsense against paper abortion that makes it look normal for it to be a double standard between men and women, and that it's normal for a man to get 18 years of child support thrown at his face for an unwanted pregnancy he had no control on at all. For a man, accepting to have sex = consenting to pregnancy at the same time, while the opposite isn't true for a woman. This being said, the curr… | /r/MensRights | 22/03/21 05:02 AM |
| 1 | Men's say for their child if their mother wants an abortion.Okay, your brain has definitely been rotten by feminism. No, what I'm saying is that the current law is SEXIST, and that abortion is sexist in the absence of paper abortion. which doesn't make me against abortion. I'm pro-equality, which means that paper abortion now has to become a thing to make things equal, because as it is now, it's men's bodily autonomy that is at risk of ending up screwed constantly. No, being pro-abortion doesn't mean accepting others having privileges. You're the one not… | /r/MensRights | 22/03/21 04:36 AM |
| 1 | Men's say for their child if their mother wants an abortion.For your information, it's not your criticism. It's that it's easier to both write and re-read shorter messages, and I have less opportunities to forget one word or another. But, well, sure, if it's more understandable to you, that's a good thing I guess. Nice. Women must have bodily autonomy. However, it is hypocritical to expect bodily autonomy while also having the right to enforce YOUR own freedom on others by restricting their (hence my employer example), otherwise it somehow becomes discri… | /r/MensRights | 22/03/21 04:13 AM |
| 1 | Men's say for their child if their mother wants an abortion.I support abortion. I don't support obligatory child support. And I don't support abotion when it gets twisted into a sexist thing, because that's not what abortion is about in the first place. Again, "if you don't want responsibilities/children, keep it in you pants" is unacceptable. For both genders. If defending abortion means defending these double standards, again, I'm out. Abortion isn't about double standards. It's about giving a woman the choice to rule her body. If it implies setting do… | /r/MensRights | 22/03/21 02:45 AM |
| 1 | Men's say for their child if their mother wants an abortion.Get a damn brain and stop picking sentences out-of-context. It'll probably help, really... It does. You're just so obsessed with your victimhood narrative that you can't even conceive the fact that abortion is a privilege, not a right, and definitely not anything related to any kind of equality. That, and once again you apparently jumped on me without bothering reading what I was saying to baljeet before. The whole conversation started because of how feminists, and people as a whole, constantly … | /r/MensRights | 22/03/21 02:32 AM |
| 1 | Men's say for their child if their mother wants an abortion.Regardless of my writing, if to you reading someone saying "I DO SUPPORT ABORTION, it's the hypocrisy behind the "argument" that bothers me" every two lines mean "being against abortion" one way or another, you have to seek help. Period. Also, if you don't understand what I'm talking about, don't butt in a conversation randomly, particularly if it's to accuse me of things I've been denying for hours. I've explained all of this, like the "free sanitary towels" part, in previous posts. If you're g… | /r/MensRights | 22/03/21 01:42 AM |
| 1 | Men's say for their child if their mother wants an abortion.Seeing me saying things despite the fact that I've been repeating the exact opposite for a while, while just arguing about society's hypocrisy when it comes to "taking biology into account while considering equality", is. I can't count the number of times I've repeated that yes, I agree with the mother having the right to decide regardless of the father, BUT that the problem is using an "equality" justification rather than a "privilege" one , since nobody cares about male-exclusive specificities… | /r/MensRights | 22/03/21 12:12 AM |
| 1 | Men's say for their child if their mother wants an abortion.You apparently are, since you keep reading the exact opposite of what I'm saying. Again, you're just looking for things to be offended about. I'm against abortion? (despite the fact that I clearly stated that I'm in favor of it, and that I am against abortion used in a sexist way and against pro-abortion falling back on anti-abortion rhetoric). woops. I'm not. Then I must be in favor of forcing pregnancy!! Oops, I'm not. No. I'm against double standards and people defending abortion using them, … | /r/MensRights | 22/03/21 12:07 AM |
| 1 | Men's say for their child if their mother wants an abortion.Yeah, then try top answer to what I'm actually saying next time instead of somehow offending yourself. Good riddance. Also, now, consent to sex suddenly becomes "proactively creating a pregnancy". I thought consent to sex wasn't consent to children? Whatever, I've already answered all that in my discussion with baljeet. The responsibility lies on the mother. She wants the right to abort and wants to be the only one deciding of everything, sure, that's fair. But take the consequences that come wi… | /r/MensRights | 21/03/21 11:50 PM |
| 1 | Men's say for their child if their mother wants an abortion.N-O. Abortion isn't the part that is concerned. It's CHILD SUPPORT. Paper abortion means abortion for the father from a legal standpoint. In other words, a time frame in which the father can decide whether he'll be the father or not (which effectively forbid him from having any place in the child's life; the father effectively has no right at all over the children if he doesn't support it, he's a stranger), rather short time-frame in order to allow the woman to make her own decision afterward. T… | /r/MensRights | 21/03/21 11:17 PM |
| 2 | When a woman can't have a child, people flock to them with great sympathy. It's a tragedy. When a man can't have a child, nobody gives a fuck.It's a problem with the internet as a whole; it's TOO good a filtering stuff. But it's a lot more more obvious on social medias. There's also the competitive aspect and the fact that you always want to "be better" than other people that are constantly making their life seem perfect, despite it not being the case, which leads to you making your life seem better than it actually is. And eventually, the front starts eating away the actual person. Yeah, self-esteem and confidence is a good thing, bu… | /r/MensRights | 21/03/21 11:13 PM |
| 1 | Men's say for their child if their mother wants an abortion.Yeah sure, learn how to fucking read. You're not answering him at all. While I still think that forced pregnancy is a big no (paper abortion is a necessity though), it's a fact that our society very easily shifts from "we need to overcome natural difference and adjust the whole world to them because EQUALITY" to "fuck you, it's just biological differences so it's not the same". Clear enough? Abortion = fine. Forcing abortion = not fine. Forcing pregnancy = not fine. Denying that society only eve… | /r/MensRights | 21/03/21 11:07 PM |
| 1 | Men's say for their child if their mother wants an abortion.I'm FOR abortion if it's not used in a sexist way. I'm AGAINST abortion, although I'd rather be in favor of it, if it's a free pass to justify a "keep it in your pants otherwise you're responsible for the child even if you never wanted it and if the woman lied about the pill" rhetoric towards men. Not that complicated. Abortion is fine as long as it's not used in a sexist way. I'm against abortion being used as a sexist tool filled with double standards. "Keep it in your pants" isn't a valid ant… | /r/MensRights | 21/03/21 10:57 PM |
| 1 | Men's say for their child if their mother wants an abortion....you're aware that it's exactly my point and what I answered to in the first place? Whatever. Exactly, so if men should just keep it in their pants because consent to sex = take responsibility, then the same logic applies to women; which is basic anti-abortion rhetoric so bringing up the man's responsibility purely for having sex has no room in an abortion debate. Except that it apparently doesn't work this way for men. Which is exactly the double standard I'm pointing out. Lunatic. that's ric… | /r/MensRights | 21/03/21 10:47 PM |
| 2 | When a woman can't have a child, people flock to them with great sympathy. It's a tragedy. When a man can't have a child, nobody gives a fuck.Bragging about it.. Was he high or something, since you talked about heroin? Because there's bad behaviour and there's this. Then again, drugs can mess up your brain to an insane degree. You possibly missed his point then, because it was just supposed to show that it's a global tendency that you can find both in history (which can probably justified by a survival of the fittest mentality in the first place) and in today's current culture (which has a lot to do with today's entitlement and social… | /r/MensRights | 21/03/21 10:43 PM |
| 1 | Men's say for their child if their mother wants an abortion.The exception doesn't make the rule at all. Then, they can just apply the same thing that is always told to men whenever someone talks about paper abortion: just keep it in your pants. Yes, it's anti-abortion rhetoric. If it's fine towards men to justify them having to pay CS no matter the situation, so it's equally fine towards women. To discussing women's bodies? I'm pro-abortion, you genius. I'm against double standards when it comes to abortion, in other words, men don't get to have a say si… | /r/MensRights | 21/03/21 10:24 PM |
| 1 | Men's say for their child if their mother wants an abortion.Abortion doesn't exist in a vacuum, sorry. It's not even a natural thing since we're talking about a clinical abortion. The context is exactly the same as any other biological difference justifying double standards. Whether you like it or not. Abortion isn't some kind of holy thing that follows separate rules from everything else. If biological specificities regarding abortion justify removing the father's right to have a say, then the same specificities, like men having no rights to decide of t… | /r/MensRights | 21/03/21 10:05 PM |
| 2 | When a woman can't have a child, people flock to them with great sympathy. It's a tragedy. When a man can't have a child, nobody gives a fuck.Except that when bad behaviour get normalized, it's not a "just don't follow bad people" problem. It's an incentivization problem. People are a lot smarter than you regarding this. You don't need to be close or even care about people for them to have an influence on society and on your world, and this is particularly true when it comes to trends that justify ego-centered behaviors. If to you it's about "following the wrong people", it's hilarious because you assume that people "don't realize som… | /r/MensRights | 21/03/21 08:22 PM |
| 1 | Men's say for their child if their mother wants an abortion.Again, said "biological differences so it's normal for women to[x]..." ONLY ever matter when it's to the benefits of women. Period. Which.Is.The.Problem. It can't be used as an argument when it's that hypocritical. Can you develop this idea further though?[...] justified alternatives I'm parroting your own comment. "Necessary evil" isn't a justification, or it can perfectly well be used against you as well. "Yeah but it's normal for men to have 18 years of their life, in other words, their whole… | /r/MensRights | 21/03/21 08:16 PM |
| 1 | Men's say for their child if their mother wants an abortion.Biology is what you use to justify a double standard in these situations. Otherwise, no one cares about women having to carry the baby. The only thing making it unfair to force her to do this is biological differences when it comes to morality. And again, you just pick whatever matters to you and that's about it. At this point I thin I'll not even answer to you anymore after this message, you're a lost cause of hypocrisy. Yes, The entire point is that there are physics or mental consequences tha… | /r/MensRights | 21/03/21 08:13 PM |
| 2 | Divorced men almost ten times more likely to kill themselve than divorced womenWhile I don't think the "less social support" part is that much of a reason (it probably has its importance, but I doubt it's major) you hit the nail on the head whn it comes to "mattering more". For all of the "men are insensitive" etc crap we're constantly hearing, men are problem fixers first and foremost. And when they get attached to someone, they REALLY get attached to them, and some nice words from someone else aren't going to make them change their mind easily. Add to the the fact that t… | /r/MensRights | 21/03/21 05:07 PM |
| 0 | When a woman can't have a child, people flock to them with great sympathy. It's a tragedy. When a man can't have a child, nobody gives a fuck."People I know don't do it so you're being misogynistic". What. Tinder and the okcupid study are pretty good examples of this phenomenon and the people you know don't change that, and PARTICULARLY don't make it misogynistic. Since when are data misogynistic. If you don't like it, question the world and the culture we live in. There is a problem with it, and sticking your head in the sand isn't going to change that. | /r/MensRights | 21/03/21 04:54 PM |
| 1 | Men's say for their child if their mother wants an abortion.That's not really the point. A lot of the people defending the "a man have no say" opinion are also the ones having huge double standards regarding child support. It's not restricted to the government, sadly enough. Biological differences as a whole are an argument that only matter when these people like it. Women fail physical tests too much? Let's lower the standards for them. Men have sexual needs and speak about it (which is mainly testosterone-induced, and thus based on biology)? Let's show… | /r/MensRights | 21/03/21 04:47 PM |
| 1 | Men's say for their child if their mother wants an abortion.Either biology matters or it doesn't. Period. If it matters, it's a component of morality and trumps other moral choices. If it doesn't , then you're free to discriminate based on biological criteria that will have an impact on you. You just don't get to decide WHEN biological differences fit into "morality" and when it doesn't. That's it. You can't have your cake and eat it too by cherry-picking when it "should" matter. Less financial capital and that's it? Are you joking now? Ok, you definitel… | /r/MensRights | 21/03/21 04:02 PM |
| 1 | Men's say for their child if their mother wants an abortion.And I explained why it's just your arbitrary bias. "Doesn't harm you to some degree" is heavily subjective and once again depends of your person bias. Women get a ton of pass due to their biology. See: double standards at hiring, when it comes to physical tests like in the army, bias when it comes to children, etc. Meanwhile, men are mostly stuck with the negative. e.g. DV isn't the same when it's commited by men because men are stronger, so it must be taken more seriously, and DV by men is a "m… | /r/MensRights | 21/03/21 04:02 PM |
| 4 | Women are more aggressive and violent during and before a relationshipWhile I'm not the most directly concerned person about this, the only men I've seen saying something that could be interpreted as dismissive (which can even be something like "plenty of fish into the sea") were saying it while basically thinking "what the hell can I do about this or what can I say to him, I have no idea about what to do in this situation neither and I don't know what I'd do myself, there's no answer, he'll always be the abuser for everyone". Probably a very, very few number of h… | /r/MensRights | 21/03/21 04:26 AM |
| 1 | Men's say for their child if their mother wants an abortion.Also, i am all in for the woman's right to have an abortion, no matter if the guy is against it. It's her body that will go through it, she may be scared of the procedure or whatever else. It's a fundamental human right It only works if we decide to accept "biological difference" as a reason for many other things though. Otherwise, you're just cherry-picking what is the most important between biological differences and morality whenever you feel like it. Which means no more preferential treatmen… | /r/MensRights | 21/03/21 04:04 AM |
| 2 | Men's say for their child if their mother wants an abortion.You're not answering him at all. While I still think that forced pregnancy is a big no (paper abortion is a necessity though), it's a fact that our society very easily shifts from "we need to overcome natural difference and adjust the whole world to them because EQUALITY" to "fuck you, it's just biological differences so it's not the same". People are fairly hypocritical when it comes to this. If "biology" was EVERYTHING that mattered and no morality, even at the expense of someone else, was inv… | /r/MensRights | 21/03/21 03:13 AM |
| 5 | Women are more aggressive and violent during and before a relationshipWait for the next answer, that'll include the words TOXIC MASCULINITY! Aka the one thing that is spilled around by people like this one first and foremost. Men do talk to each other about these things. It's just that no one has a solution, because idiots like that, spreading false narratives, have way more influence. And let's not go into the "this is how women support each other"... There'd be a lot to say about this as well... And then there's this "have some empathy". That's really, REALLY ri… | /r/MensRights | 21/03/21 02:52 AM |
| 7 | Women are more aggressive and violent during and before a relationshipEdit: I mean, the downvotes without the replies to dispute this kinda hammer the point home. Because you say utter bullshit like Normally when women make these kinds of threads there full of women sharing their personal stories of abuse of all kinds and how wrong they were for staying with the guy for so long. That's the reaction men get. On a GOOD day. When it's not just limited to "what did you do to make her react this way". But yeah, keep saying nonsense and acting surprised when you get dow… | /r/MensRights | 21/03/21 02:45 AM |
| 2 | The feminist justification of the male homicide rate disparitybecause atleast the first-wave and second-wave actually had tangiable advocacies that made some sort of sense If you don't look too deep into it. There was also extremely unsavory parts or sexism within it. The core problem being that "equality" is just too vague of a concept, and can very easily be abused. | /r/MensRights | 18/03/21 11:43 PM |
| 0 | Making women *feel* safe vs making men *safe*You missed my point. What I'm saying is that "moral superiority" will always imply biases by themselves. Let's take your example about making people feel safe against. How? Let's say more police control at night. It'll bother countless people that are out at night legitimately, without any ill intent. All for the sake on a few people's feelings, that may not even be particularly justified. Living in a society automatically means living and dealing with people that are different from you. Which m… | /r/MensRights | 18/03/21 11:24 PM |
| 6 | Making women *feel* safe vs making men *safe*People helping others is better than everyone purely being out for themselves Being "nice to everyone" is doomed to lead to biases and paradoxe, not to mention validate people that'll also cause pain down the line. The very idea is self-destructive in a world where people's values and sensitivities will be opposed with one another. Reality is a tad more complicated than that, and it's the root of the problem (and why said "nice people" always end up cannibalizing each other in the end; e.g. in m… | /r/MensRights | 18/03/21 02:49 PM |
| 3 | The feminist justification of the male homicide rate disparityThat's the problem with feminism. Some people say that they "sometimes make sense" but he problem is that it ONLY make sense when you fall in line with their ideology. Because a murder isn't just murder to them, it has to be related to the patriarchy. A woman choosing to be a stay-at-home mom cannot be because of her own choice after analyzing everything she could do; it HAS to be about gender roles and society pushing her in this direction. Just saying that some women get raped isn't feminism; … | /r/MensRights | 18/03/21 02:35 PM |
| 4 | Woman falsely accusing a man of raping her jailed for three and a half yearsWell, you take what you can get. It's not exactly men's nor the nepal's fault these recognitions of false accusations are the only ones available. Which is actually the problem in the first place. | /r/MensRights | 17/03/21 11:56 PM |
| 2 | Talk about double standards..Which also tells why these people usually don't say anything; her friend that said this probably was either very courageous or didn't expect this reaction; they'd be accused of this even more than random people, with feminists probably parroting that they didn't love their children. Or that they taught her "internalized misogyny" that made her think so. | /r/MensRights | 17/03/21 04:38 PM |
| 1 | Talk about double standards..Even more disgusting when you know that she wouldn't have wanted her death to be used this way at all. But hey, criticizing the instrumentalisation of this case is disrespecting the dead. Well, I'm not sure the dead would like to read this. | /r/MensRights | 17/03/21 04:33 PM |
| 1 | Talk about double standards..How surprising. This being said, if they wanted to create misogyny, they wouldn't do it any other way. These people are the ones that are the biggest disservice to real victims down the line. Damn modern pseudo-"activists". Also, it's related to both their famous "rape culture" and the "risk management = victim blaming" phenomenon. How funny for them to say that justice itself somehow holds the length of her skirt against a victim when, if there's a "rape culture" (which is defined as a society … | /r/MensRights | 17/03/21 04:28 PM |
| 2 | Talk about double standards..Some idiots saying this probably exist, just as you'll find idiots defending everything (although they'd manage to make even this gendered somehow). But implying that a broken justice that manages to get men in jail for years for false accusations somehow "let (real) rapists go because, hey, she was wearing a skirt"? What are these people smoking? The system is broken to the point where an innocent can possibly be jailed on a woman's word alone, and yet somehow justice itself is supposed to be b… | /r/MensRights | 17/03/21 04:16 PM |
| 2 | This idea of men = potential rapist, and murdererOkay, now you're sounding more and more stupid with this example. This isn't even about "fairness" anymore, it's about thinking people "should be held accountable" for what you think is right or not according to your own biases. Pitiful. And bowing down to people that are also part of the problem themselves isn't "being part of the solution". No matter how "some women" feel. | /r/MensRights | 17/03/21 04:04 PM |
| 2 | This idea of men = potential rapist, and murdererWhy would we downvote this person for asking for exactly what BOTH genders should have? Because she is making it a gendered issue and is parroting the same nonsense as any feminist, "muh 99,1% of women has been harassed"? Further making it a gendered issue without using her brain two seconds, mind you. And the rest of her answers show quite clearly that this isn't about "being fair"; it's about 1/ how you should bow to the feelings of "some women" otherwise you're a part of the problem, without … | /r/MensRights | 17/03/21 03:55 PM |
| 5 | Which men are perpetrating violence against women that makes them scared to go out at night?This small percentage of the population is forged into violent sexual criminals. While there may be a subset of rapists that become this way because of abuse, this is too much, a ton of people don't have any problem being assholes by themselves purely out of egocentrism. Even if they're "privileged". Not everyone has a sob story to explain why they're assholes. | /r/MensRights | 17/03/21 12:33 PM |
| 9 | Which men are perpetrating violence against women that makes them scared to go out at night?Good old' "I started attacking you, but it doesn't count so you're the only violent one because you defended yourself". | /r/MensRights | 17/03/21 12:29 PM |
| 7 | Which men are perpetrating violence against women that makes them scared to go out at night?Drinking leaves you in a state where you're mostly unable to defend yourself or recognize risks/cause you to make stupid decisions that lead to danger. I think that was this person's point. Just as, if he was completely drunk, a man wouldn't see a problem going into a seriously screwed-up part his the town wearing his whole rolex collection for giggles. That's alcohol-induced stupidity, and it leaves you at risk. Drinking screws up with your judgement, so it should only be done in safe environme… | /r/MensRights | 17/03/21 12:21 PM |
| 2 | Talk about double standards..What dress the victim was wearing is irrelevant in a rape trial in most countries I always love this "men says she was just asking for it" rhetoric. Never met a single man like that in my whole. And this one is even worse since to him, it's not just "men", it's "the law" itself. Also, speaking about a rape victim theoretically not being recognized is kind of rich. | /r/MensRights | 17/03/21 12:03 PM |
| 1 | Men are required to pay to keep a woman's life stable after divorce. Why aren't women required to do the same after a false accusation ruins a man's life?Nah, my comment was more about your use of the word "generalizing", hence my (rather long) answer which was more about how "women" can refer to the social class. Of course women don't have an inner drive to be horrible or anything; at least not moreso than men. Human opportunism is a pretty universal thing, the only differences are how much leeway you give people to act on said opportunism and how much you encourage it. I could have said the exact same thing, maybe even worse, about ultra-rich p… | /r/MensRights | 17/03/21 12:03 AM |
| 1 | Men are required to pay to keep a woman's life stable after divorce. Why aren't women required to do the same after a false accusation ruins a man's life?Learn what sexism means. As I already stated multiple time here, the problem isn't women's sex or gender by itself, or any "women's nature" kind of crap. It's women's place in society and the messed-up culture we're living in right now that is incentivizing abuse of the system, making them a constant risk for men because of double standards, whether they seem "good" at one moment or not. Hence, all guns are loaded. Even the ones that aren't. Because they might end up getting loaded behind your b… | /r/MensRights | 16/03/21 06:21 PM |
| 3 | Anti "Not All Men" post on r/feminism comparing men to ticks. This is unbelievable. The comments are even worse.I'm not the one you answered to, genius. I answered to your message that I even quoted since it was about how feminism SEEMS debatable at first glance, but as an ideology it isn't because if its necessary postulates. Like any constructed ideology based on beliefs; here, the hyper-importantce of gender roles and the patriarchy that are the root of everything. If you remove that, it's not feminism anymore. All feminism variations have these postulates in common. Although yes, I've seen the thread,… | /r/MensRights | 16/03/21 01:46 AM |
| 8 | UK: Councillor is suspended for dressing up as a woman on Facebook in protest at idea of curfew for menThe very fact that a rather smart joke towards an absolutely ridiculous measure got treated this way is quite pitiful to begin with. And then there are some saying that it's "insulting to the victim". Uh. Nope. If the victim indeed wouldn't have wanted its death to be politized against men this way, she would probably be one of the ones laughing right now because it's pointing out the sexism and absurdity of this measure. And this is a joke, sure, but there are really trans (although I sadly don… | /r/MensRights | 16/03/21 12:47 AM |
| 1 | We live in a patriarchy...Because said "solution" is nonsense and reeks of sexism? No matter whether you feel that men should feel "personally attacked" or not? Just saying. No, the problem isn't that this isn't the first time feminism has been pulling this crap. You being unaware of it doesn't mean that it's a first. "Muh not all feminists". Also, villainizing feminists != villainizing women. The only problem when it comes to women is feminism and a biased society, and that's about it, although with sexist feminist idea… | /r/MensRights | 16/03/21 12:32 AM |
| 5 | Men are required to pay to keep a woman's life stable after divorce. Why aren't women required to do the same after a false accusation ruins a man's life?Only if what is spent on child support was actually controlled, though. And good luck with that. | /r/MensRights | 16/03/21 12:24 AM |
| -9 | Men are required to pay to keep a woman's life stable after divorce. Why aren't women required to do the same after a false accusation ruins a man's life?Women aren't "women" as a biological entity here. It's women as a social class. Which, ultimately, make the main problem the government, rather than women. Or rather, what our current laws make women: a way too massive risk. Even your unicorn-that-is-not-like-that will grow up and get older in a culture encouraging this crap and encouraging misandry. While the same generalizations when it comes to men are based on crimes ("all men rape"; as far as I know, rape is a crime; and thus, there's a det… | /r/MensRights | 16/03/21 12:14 AM |
| 4 | Anti "Not All Men" post on r/feminism comparing men to ticks. This is unbelievable. The comments are even worse."nice debate"? Said debate and the "nicer" side of it was completely based on this whole "men are in power, women are oppressed" crap all over again. The ones actually arguing against this "power" thing actually got deleted by the mods. And then there's the patriarchy all over again. Needless to say, it used gems like that I see what you’re saying, but the statistics do demonstrate that 99.1% of rapists are men, while there are no statistics to demonstrate that nearly all thieves are black peopl… | /r/MensRights | 15/03/21 10:53 PM |
| 33 | UK: Councillor is suspended for dressing up as a woman on Facebook in protest at idea of curfew for menShouldn't have read the comments. Although a lot of them are supportive, there's still the few "HE'S DISRESPECTING THE DEATH OF A POOOOOOOOOR WOMAN BY DOING THIS SICKO IT'S THE KIND OF PERSON THAT SHOULD BE LOCKED UP HE MAKES FUN OF HER DEATH!!!". Really now ? We'll talk about this the day you'll stop instrumentalizing the death of young women who wouldn't have wanted anything to do with this crap. Who's disrespecting who, and who's disrespecting the dead here? | /r/MensRights | 15/03/21 08:18 PM |
| 2 | We live in a patriarchy...How difficult it is to actually get a conviction in most cases because there's very little evidence. There was zero evidence supporting dr ford because a shit ton of time had already passed. Or maybe because there's no case in the first place. Not that you'd even consider it. Enjoy your "mpatriarchy". | /r/MensRights | 15/03/21 08:06 PM |
| 2 | We live in a patriarchy...People make life uncomfortable for each other as a whole, because, muh narcissistic generation. That's not a gendered thing, and it's as old as time itself. They just have different ways to do it. Men are, overall, a lot more beneficial than problematic to women, and are extremely cooperative, even in the face of real discrimination. If to you men "cause so many problems for women" I suggest that you re-evaluate your standards for both genders. | /r/MensRights | 15/03/21 08:04 PM |
| 18 | The "Patriarchy"Meh. The men are just asking for it, they're just suicidal, so it's their own fault. Toxic masculinity, they're taking risky jobs just to prove they're manly because, muh, gender roles. /s | /r/MensRights | 15/03/21 08:00 PM |
| 4 | Someone saying that men can contribute insightful opinions is being downvoted.It's kinda hilarious how this person doesn't even bother reading u/d_nijmegen 's comment to see the context. How surprising it is to see that people shouting "OMG YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT WOMEN HAVE GONE THROUGH" don't know anything about how about what they're talking about themselves. Both about women's situation, now and in the past, and about men's situation, now and in the past. | /r/MensRights | 15/03/21 07:58 PM |
| 14 | Meta-analysis of 91 studies finds that women commit higher levels of severe, 'clinical level' domestic assaults than menOn top of that, men have been conditioned to take this abuse as a joke and constantly being told, those are just ‘minor issues’ That's when men are not taught that it's not abuse in the first place and there is indeed a problem with them because [x thing] that they do is abusive (when it's not, it can even be things considered the bare minimum in any societal relationship, basically encouraging the person to be a doormat). I've observed the results of this. Misplaced guilt for non-existent thing… | /r/MensRights | 15/03/21 07:47 PM |
| 14 | Men are required to pay to keep a woman's life stable after divorce. Why aren't women required to do the same after a false accusation ruins a man's life?Nonsense. Your "answer" and "sacrifice that men "have to (very interesting terminology here) make" is just a gendered privilege and sexism, plain and simple, and there'd be no reason not to reverse it. Let's forbid rape accusations as a whole because it will be abused by some and men won't be able to defend themselves. Sounds nice, doesn't it? It's basically what you're defending. Because it will have a negative effect on some people (real victims of rape/real victims of false accusations), let'… | /r/MensRights | 15/03/21 07:27 PM |
| 11 | Anti "Not All Men" post on r/feminism comparing men to ticks. This is unbelievable. The comments are even worse.One thing that I absolutely love is how assault is a man's problem because "most assaults are done by men"... and in the meantime we absolutely DO NOT give a damn about manipulation, psychological abuse, etc, that are acts of violence that are a lot more available and common for women. And yet, it's absolutely ignored; to the point where gaslighting someone is usually seen as "acting on one's own freedom" and that's it. Let alone manipulating someone into something. It's easy to have one-sided v… | /r/MensRights | 15/03/21 01:42 PM |
| 3 | UK: How wrong for Sarah Everard's death to be hijacked by men-hatersAnd one day it'll type this book ? | /r/MensRights | 15/03/21 04:31 AM |
| 1 | The reason men don't report abuse is because in school teachers punish us for defending ourselvesDefine "trouble". Also. It's all about whether the teacher sees it happening, other students see and confirm, or someone has a physical injury. We're talking about abuse here. Even if it was true, which I doubt given how even bullies tend to get away with things, and it isn't a meaningful sample compared to what men experience as a whole anyway, how do you think this translates into an abuse situation? That's right, the slightest bruise on a woman > she's being abused, period. Unless you have a … | /r/MensRights | 15/03/21 04:10 AM |
| 2 | The reason men don't report abuse is because in school teachers punish us for defending ourselvesThey're asking you why you didn't push her off you, not punch her lights out. Self defense is defined by using equal force to get away. Let me guess, you've never been in any real fight where the other person that is REALLY trying to hurt you at any cost (or you alternatively just accepted to be a punching-ball and see no problem with that, which is problematic by itself). Because if the person is trying to hurt you, more than a few bruises are usually going to be needed for you to be able to ge… | /r/MensRights | 15/03/21 03:56 AM |
| 3 | Sarah Everard case shows men need to take responsibility | Eastern Daily News (UK)In fact, we do know, according to her close friends at least, that she wouldn't have wanted her death to be weaponized this way. So there's that. Blame the ones not following the will of the victim and weaponizing this tragedy, not the victim that didn't seem to be some kind of misandrist nutjob. | /r/MensRights | 15/03/21 03:40 AM |
| 1 | Sexism or SelfishnessThe two aren't opposed to each other. I've talked about it quite a lot in my post history, usually when it comes to human opportunism (that's the big one), selfishness, egocentrism or narcissism, but one is basically used as a weapon used to justify the other. Sexism is weaponized in order to make one's selfishness justified. Few people will admit that they're just being selfish and, as such, you should just listen to them. However, if you replace this by "men [x]" or any other sexist remark, it… | /r/MensRights | 14/03/21 03:13 PM |
| 2 | Feminists think MensRights movements are misogynist.Which makes it against equality in the first place, since it's about WEAPONIZING equality, even if it reaches a possibly non-equal outcome in the end. This isn't what equality is about. And feminists are actively fighting against the idea of false accusations, which, again, makes them anti-equality. You're acting as if this was just about fighting discrimination. No. It's about fighting PERCEIVED discrimination; even non-existent ones. This is what makes the whole thing a lot more complicated. A… | /r/MensRights | 14/03/21 12:28 PM |
| 4 | Feminists think MensRights movements are misogynist.The problem with modern feminism is exactly the same we have with modern politicians : we only hear from the most extreme ones. Yeah, nope. Even your majority of "non-extreme ones" are only for equality when it's not a disadvantage to them. Try to bring up paper abortion and being stricter towards accusations because of false accusations, and let's see how many of your "moderates" will still be "moderate" afterward. It's easy to be "for equality" when it doesn't cost you anything. The real test … | /r/MensRights | 14/03/21 11:59 AM |
| 3 | The murder of a woman in the UK has caused outrage on social media producing a hate campaign against men, many stats and ideas were presented so I decided to have a closer look, here's what I found:Not according to official numbers by the government neither. https://www.interieur.gouv.fr/content/download/115339/923875/file/Fiche_01Homicides.pdf (it's a pdf, if you don't want to dl it I'll copy-paste the part about this below) "En 2018, 845 personnes ont été victimes d’homicide (y compris coups et blessures volontaires suivis de mort), soit 0,013 décès pour 1 000 habitants. Un peu plus d’un tiers (35%) de ces victimes sont des femmes. Les classes d’âges les plus touchées sont les 30-44 ans … | /r/MensRights | 14/03/21 11:42 AM |
| 1 | Does anyone actually say "she was asking for it"?The one thing that people usually do is saying that it's horrible and that, people shouldn't say, go out alone at 2:00 AM half-naked because it's dangerous. Which gets distorted into victim-blaming (even if the person explicitly says that they are not blaming the victim at all and doesn't justifying anything because of it, they just encourage cautiousness). The feminists saying that everyone say "she was asking for it" imply that there is a lack of empathy towards the victim, which is already hi… | /r/MensRights | 14/03/21 11:11 AM |
| 4 | For the feminists who lurk here: If you truly believe that feminism helps men too, give us 40 shelters/help centers around the world that were created by feminists that cater to men as victims and as the main priority.It's not being being misguided. In most of the cases, it's about using an ideology that has the "moral high ground" to defend your own selfishness and egocentrism. Even past-30, a ton of feminism will have a lot of problems with paper abortion or when it comes to asking for men to have reproductive rights (because - while you might hope that you'll never be in an abusive relationship or that you'll not be abusive yourself - this is a real concern that might apply to anyone and isn't within your … | /r/MensRights | 13/03/21 10:09 PM |
| 6 | For the feminists who lurk here: If you truly believe that feminism helps men too, give us 40 shelters/help centers around the world that were created by feminists that cater to men as victims and as the main priority."Not all scottman" all over again. Obligatory https://theindependentmanitaly.wordpress.com/2020/03/31/the-true-feminist-by-karen-straughan/ And for your information, people like her or cassie jay usually aren't feminists anymore afterward. Or rather, they can't be anymore, since even your dear "moderates" dismiss them. And that's not going into the "moderates" that are only moderate as long as you don't bring things that are disadvantageous like paper abortion up. Yes, feminism is treated as a m… | /r/MensRights | 13/03/21 10:00 PM |
| 14 | For the feminists who lurk here: If you truly believe that feminism helps men too, give us 40 shelters/help centers around the world that were created by feminists that cater to men as victims and as the main priority.Most of the "exceptions" you're talking about are only fine with men's rights as long as it isn't disadvantageous to them. Try to bring something like paper abortion to the table. It's a great magical trick to expose who is "truly" moderate and who isn't. And feminism doesn't just "help women", it also does everything in its power to stop men's rights. Like, y'know, the ones that stormed a talk about male suicide to create a conflict in order to cancel it. What lettuce described you is the femin… | /r/MensRights | 13/03/21 09:54 PM |
| 11 | For the feminists who lurk here: If you truly believe that feminism helps men too, give us 40 shelters/help centers around the world that were created by feminists that cater to men as victims and as the main priority.Do note how this person avoided answering to azazelcrowley when he pointed out her hypocrisy and how what she ask for would only result in amping up the victimization. Truly a sight to behold. Sure, let's go and act in the same way feminists did, and bomb feminist groups among other things. And yet these people dare to claim some kind of "moral superiority". Because they're not even aware of their own history, or just eliminates or re-interpret any part of it that is disadvantageous. And then th… | /r/MensRights | 13/03/21 09:43 PM |
| 1 | French schoolgirl's accusations of exposure to antireligious & sexual images got her teacher beheaded, sparked violent riots. Now she admits she made it all up.I said that your not-in french sources are unreliable, and that the european one skipped the only interesting part; the evolution over time which is for europe as a whole and is what really matters. And I already gave you WAY more complete sources than your four lines. Again, https://www.data.gouv.fr/en/reuses/crimes-et-delits-en-france-1/ https://www.leadadvisor.fr/articles/l-explosion-de-l-insecurite-en-france-mythe-ou-realite Not that you'll bother reading, including the part saying that even… | /r/MensRights | 11/03/21 12:11 PM |
| 1 | French schoolgirl's accusations of exposure to antireligious & sexual images got her teacher beheaded, sparked violent riots. Now she admits she made it all up.Which is still nothing compared to the average occurrence of this happening, both towards islam and other religion, and more importantly nothing compared to racist acts. Again, insignificant. Even your "53 % increase", and EVEN if we take EVERYTHING as actions, despite 3/4 of it being threats, isn't enough to reach the level of antisemitism. LET ALONE christianism. You apparently don't know what insignificant means. Islamophobia is a detail when it comes to reactions to terrorist attacks. Again,… | /r/MensRights | 11/03/21 12:00 PM |
| 1 | French schoolgirl's accusations of exposure to antireligious & sexual images got her teacher beheaded, sparked violent riots. Now she admits she made it all up...... Okay now you're trolling. No, I'm rejecting your sources BECAUSE THEY ARE ABOUT THE EU AS A WHOLE when it comes to the only interesting parts, in other words the parts showing the evolution over time. Once again, I gave you official french sources. I already gave it to you. Not my problem if you're not reading the source people give you. Yeah ok you didn't even read at all despite the fact that I already answered your "53% increase". .... Stop drinking. Dans son bilan des actes antireligie… | /r/MensRights | 11/03/21 11:42 AM |
| 1 | French schoolgirl's accusations of exposure to antireligious & sexual images got her teacher beheaded, sparked violent riots. Now she admits she made it all up.Okay, I'm not answering about this anymore, you're completely unable to see the difference between a racist attack and a religious attack. Whatever. No, tons of mosques haven't been burned after 9/11 in france, sorry to burst your bubble. there has been a racism spike that wan't caused by religion, just like there has been a racism spike towards asians because of the covid. Is it that difficult to understand to you? Again, white muslims, EVEN if it was known that they were muslims, weren't attac… | /r/MensRights | 11/03/21 11:26 AM |
| 1 | French schoolgirl's accusations of exposure to antireligious & sexual images got her teacher beheaded, sparked violent riots. Now she admits she made it all up.Stop using non-french sources that know nothing about what we're talking about right now. This being said https://www.contrepoints.org/2013/09/16/139191-criminalite-lislam-il-criminogene https://www.asafrance.fr/item/islamisme-de-trappes-a-lunel-ces-territoires-que-la-republique-a-abandonnes-sans-combattre.html https://www.lefigaro.fr/actualite-france/sondage-les-jeunes-musulmans-plus-radicaux-que-leurs-aines-20200908 No, I'm not talking "out of my frog". In france it's different and the same at… | /r/MensRights | 11/03/21 10:07 AM |
| 1 | French schoolgirl's accusations of exposure to antireligious & sexual images got her teacher beheaded, sparked violent riots. Now she admits she made it all up.Yes, I made that point since you're obviously not aware of the context in france, and I dont criticize neither the US nor north korea. ....... Okay you're not even worth talking with anymore. You're yet again conflating anti-muslim crimes and racist crimes. Whatever. And I don't care about this worldwide. We're talking about france right now. Period. No, it didn't spike hate crimes towards MUSLIMS. At least not here. It's a skin color problem. Not a religious one. Because there IS an islam probl… | /r/MensRights | 11/03/21 09:31 AM |
| 2 | UK: Teenager, 18, avoids jail after lying that she had been raped by a stranger when her boyfriend wouldn't let her back into the house after a rowExcept that men don't even report it in the first place. And there's an huge difference between there being no proof after investigation and the case not being taken seriously and not reaching this point in the first place. Most "unsolved" cases towards men are after an in-depth investigation. With cases towards women, it doesn't even reach this level of investigation in the first place and isn't taken seriously, therefore we can't know how many of them would be true or not in the end. When it's… | /r/MensRights | 11/03/21 08:54 AM |
| 1 | French schoolgirl's accusations of exposure to antireligious & sexual images got her teacher beheaded, sparked violent riots. Now she admits she made it all up.No. Islamic hate crime didn't "explode", once again; and if anything most of the crimes are motivated by skin color (and more importantly by what part of society you live in). People don't wait to know your religion to discriminate against you or assault you. Now if we're talking about crimes against people of color overall, now we're talking and there's a subject. Because there is a fairly big problem with immigration. muslims are 10% of the french population, but are one quarter of the people … | /r/MensRights | 11/03/21 08:39 AM |
| 1 | French schoolgirl's accusations of exposure to antireligious & sexual images got her teacher beheaded, sparked violent riots. Now she admits she made it all up.....you didn't read a word of what I said, did you? First, hates crimes towards arab being worse than towards christians or jew, let me laugh. We'll talk about it the day we have more things like the merah affair towards arab people. Even after terrorist attacks, hate crimes towards muslims don't "explode". But let's avoid making this a context and let's let go of that for a moment because of the second point. Second, THIS.IS.EXACTLY.THE.PROBLEM. You're conflating racism and crimes aimed specifi… | /r/MensRights | 11/03/21 07:51 AM |
| 2 | There are a lot of supportive comments in this post about the issues we face. Xpost - In a world where body shaming and sexual comments against women are rightfully not tolerated, why are small penis jokes still fair game?This is not what I meant. It's not about it being "hard" to ignore these things. Sometimes you just CAN'T ignore them because they have an actual impact on your life that you can't do anything about, so you effectively don't have any control, even on your own future. It works when the double standard is just a stupid joke; not when it's something with actual legal repercussions, as an example. Not to mention that society is actually being re-shaped in ways that restrict your freedom down the lin… | /r/MensRights | 11/03/21 12:14 AM |
| 0 | French schoolgirl's accusations of exposure to antireligious & sexual images got her teacher beheaded, sparked violent riots. Now she admits she made it all up.I don't "change the story"; I KNOW THE STORY, I live in france and this made the news and was the center of discussion for months. Also, I'm not the person you answered to. But for your information, he contacted many people, and yes, there are imams in the CCIF. Which isn't "a mosque full of extremist"; the CCIF is the CCIF, an organization that indeed is full of extremists and organized marches full of extremists, rape apologists and people teaching children they'll become monkeys if they liste… | /r/MensRights | 10/03/21 11:42 PM |
| 1 | There are a lot of supportive comments in this post about the issues we face. Xpost - In a world where body shaming and sexual comments against women are rightfully not tolerated, why are small penis jokes still fair game?It's not really an humor thing, since as you said yourself women can be just as crude as men. It's basically what could be called a snowflake/self-centered/taking things personally problem. You see that a lot in a ton of communities (lgbt/aspies/etc); self-deprecation is pretty much dead nowadays, which could easily be related to the rate of happiness plummeting nowadays. And women are probably more susceptible to this since they tend to be more social and tend to look for validation more (if on… | /r/MensRights | 10/03/21 11:34 PM |
| 2 | There are a lot of supportive comments in this post about the issues we face. Xpost - In a world where body shaming and sexual comments against women are rightfully not tolerated, why are small penis jokes still fair game?Doesn't work when said double standards actually have an impact on your life that you just can't ignore. Putting your head into the sand works for a while, but only when it's not serious of a problem, and it still makes this kind of behaviour become worse over time. I disagree with the "absorbed by hate". You can totally be aware and fight for these things without becoming absorbed by hate, unless you have a ridiculously wide definition of what "hate" means. | /r/MensRights | 10/03/21 11:24 PM |
| 1 | French schoolgirl's accusations of exposure to antireligious & sexual images got her teacher beheaded, sparked violent riots. Now she admits she made it all up.I don't see it. This would imply that people constantly complain about false accusation, and thus aren't taken seriously the one time it happens. Which is the very opposite of what is happening. What it does result in, however, and maybe this is what you meant, is people not taking accusations seriously anymore. And in this case, yes, it already started with individual people. Well, tough luck. It's not like people like that haven't been warned. | /r/MensRights | 10/03/21 11:21 PM |
| 3 | There are a lot of supportive comments in this post about the issues we face. Xpost - In a world where body shaming and sexual comments against women are rightfully not tolerated, why are small penis jokes still fair game?The funny part is that if it was really about "toxic masculinity", and therefore "gender roles", feminists would be the one doing this kind of body-shaming the least. Since, according to their defenders, "feminism is the denial of gender roles". Nope. Turns out that it's the opposite. It couldn't be that many, many women (most notably feminists) are hypocritical when it comes to body shaming and want to keep their cake (having their own body respected) and eat it too (being able to be a jerk tow… | /r/MensRights | 10/03/21 11:09 PM |
| 1 | There are a lot of supportive comments in this post about the issues we face. Xpost - In a world where body shaming and sexual comments against women are rightfully not tolerated, why are small penis jokes still fair game?Imagine my surprise when I saw that of couuurse it became about... Our dear fier toxic masculinity yet again. What a surprise. And suddenly, what is ultimately a double standard that even the ones ""supposedly against gender roles"" use constantly becomes a problem caused by the evil patriarchy forcing its standards on men. Because it couldn't just be women being hypocritical about "body shaming", nope. | /r/MensRights | 10/03/21 11:05 PM |
| 1 | French schoolgirl's accusations of exposure to antireligious & sexual images got her teacher beheaded, sparked violent riots. Now she admits she made it all up.Totally. In my case it's just that I feel like the others issues don't really belong here anyway so I focus on the lying part (although I ended up having to explain quite a bit of it anyway since it looks like most other countries, particularly the ones not liking french secularism, reported this news however they felt like). As much as I dislike, say, feminism, most problems nowadays are multi-layered anyway and you won't fix one without fixing the rest. You wouldn't get our current ridiculous … | /r/MensRights | 10/03/21 10:52 PM |
| 4 | Offering my opinion on certain subjects is not allowed because I am a man.In these situation where everything is summed up by "my body, my choice" as if nothing else mattered, you just bring up paper abortions. Or, hell, the fact that in some countries abortions are paid by the state. And then you have a laugh while they suddenly become more conservative than any conservative, using the "keep your legs closed" argument on a loop. | /r/MensRights | 10/03/21 10:42 PM |
| 2 | UK: Teenager, 18, avoids jail after lying that she had been raped by a stranger when her boyfriend wouldn't let her back into the house after a rowThats exactly the opposite of innocent until proven guilty. That's not how due process is supposed to work, no. If there isn't any proof, then the accusation is baseless to begin with. He's not accusing her of anything, the woman is guilty of a baseless report since she made the accusation and there's no proof of its legitimacy. There being no proof doesn't mean that she's right as well. If an accusation is baseless, it holds no ground. | /r/MensRights | 10/03/21 10:33 PM |
| 1 | French schoolgirl's accusations of exposure to antireligious & sexual images got her teacher beheaded, sparked violent riots. Now she admits she made it all up.Both are terrible. But religious extremism and the idiots that are a part of it isn't exactly related to men's rights; the fact that society as a whole still eat false accusations like candies and they're not punished, however, is. Not to mention that said false accusation did lead to his head being cut off. While it isn't the entirety of the problem here, of course, the fact that society takes false accusations lightly (to the point where the teacher ended up blamed by the academic inspection f… | /r/MensRights | 10/03/21 10:26 PM |
| 2 | French schoolgirl's accusations of exposure to antireligious & sexual images got her teacher beheaded, sparked violent riots. Now she admits she made it all up.No, our false accusation culture is the problem. Or a part of it in this situation. Islam is a part of it as well, and since it's a "protected minority" it interacts with our occusation culture; but sadly, people believing a young teenager girl blindly when it comes to her accusations (that weren't even about something illegal to begin with...) isn't restricted to problems involving islam. A problem can be multi-layered and involve multiple things. The actual death was caused by an islamist, but… | /r/MensRights | 10/03/21 10:13 PM |
| 0 | French schoolgirl's accusations of exposure to antireligious & sexual images got her teacher beheaded, sparked violent riots. Now she admits she made it all up.And contacted an organization well-known for its ties to extremists. Just saying'. No, he's not "a random guy", he was pretty messed-up in the head as well. Which doesn't make his daughter innocent at all, but you're the one spearing misinformation here... Both the father AND the daughter are crap human beings. The daughter for abusing our false accusation culture, the father for reaching out to extremists because of things he shouldn't even complain about in regard of the law. | /r/MensRights | 10/03/21 10:10 PM |
| 1 | French schoolgirl's accusations of exposure to antireligious & sexual images got her teacher beheaded, sparked violent riots. Now she admits she made it all up.Yeah no, not being able to raise his daughter is one thing, but he also contacted the CCIF. Which isn't known for its moderate takes on things. Which doesn't change the fact that the root of the problem is people getting away scot-free from false accusations and using and abusing them. The daughter is just as guilty as her father. And while they may be less guilty than the actual culprit, it's still a normalization of false accusations and her being 13 doesn't make it any better at all and isn't… | /r/MensRights | 10/03/21 10:07 PM |
| 0 | French schoolgirl's accusations of exposure to antireligious & sexual images got her teacher beheaded, sparked violent riots. Now she admits she made it all up.The problem is that he contacted the CCIF , which is very well-known for its ties to extremists, and that did things like organizing a march "against islamophobia" that was, in fact, a march filled with radicals with a big R, as in, people justifying the rape of women "if they don't have any honor" to give one example. An organization that is everything but moderate. He didn't "just contact a lawyer" or "just used social networks". At all. The girl isn't innocent, and she's part of the problem t… | /r/MensRights | 10/03/21 10:02 PM |
| 1 | French schoolgirl's accusations of exposure to antireligious & sexual images got her teacher beheaded, sparked violent riots. Now she admits she made it all up.Religious extremism and society downplaying the existence of false accusations. Which is the problem here. Religious also are one, but not one that matter a lot here. Society still denying false accusations in the name of "progress" and their consequences is related to men's problems, though. Then again, saying that society doesn't care about false accusations even if it ruins the life of a man is the same as saying that water is wet. | /r/MensRights | 10/03/21 07:19 PM |
| 0 | French schoolgirl's accusations of exposure to antireligious & sexual images got her teacher beheaded, sparked violent riots. Now she admits she made it all up.Most if not all victims are still victims of racism rather than islamophobia. Someone that is perfectly white, with blonde hair and blue eyes, that happen to be a muslim, doesn't face the same discrimination as the ones you're talking about at all, if any. It's a racial discrimination. Not a religious one. Religious discrimination itself is quite rare in france outside of it happening between themselves, but that's religions for you. And the complexity of this matter and the fact that "islamopho… | /r/MensRights | 10/03/21 05:22 PM |
| 1 | French schoolgirl's accusations of exposure to antireligious & sexual images got her teacher beheaded, sparked violent riots. Now she admits she made it all up.As far as I know in regard to this particular lesson, no, there were caricatures of all of the three big religions. Not to mention that there shouldn't even have been caricatures of others here, since this was related to the charlie hebdo terrorist attack, which was related to the same exact same caricatures that were being shown. But paty was a little too nice when it comes to this; again he even gave them the possibility of not looking at them if they didn't want to. It's pretty much a non-sub… | /r/MensRights | 10/03/21 05:10 PM |
| 3 | And the comment saying she should give him back the money is downvoted with several people finding the situation hilarious. The best we get that is actually upvoted is “you are both horrible people”Well, the ones about her being right to do it because her bf was an horrible abuser are still here, so there's that... | /r/MensRights | 10/03/21 04:31 PM |
| 6 | French schoolgirl's accusations of exposure to antireligious & sexual images got her teacher beheaded, sparked violent riots. Now she admits she made it all up.This is about HER lying to her PARENTS (who then contacted an association known for having extremists in its ranks) about being exposed to CARICATURES herself. Or as you call them, anti-muslim pictures. Which she was NEVER exposed to, since she wasn't here. She did lie about it. The truth is what I just told you. By her own admission. She said she was exposed to said pictures, which was a lie, and, using rumors, made up a story about muslims being excluded from the class and herself being comple… | /r/MensRights | 10/03/21 04:04 PM |
| 8 | French schoolgirl's accusations of exposure to antireligious & sexual images got her teacher beheaded, sparked violent riots. Now she admits she made it all up.There is zero truth in her story, though. The facts aren't going your way. She admitted she wasn't in class and that THEREFORE her whole story, including the part about being herself exposed to "sexual images", was made-up. Not to mention everything else about muslims being "excluded" which isn't in the title. No, you weren't being factual, in fact you just said a lot of crap yourself. Most notably the "anti-muslim pictures". | /r/MensRights | 10/03/21 03:58 PM |
| 3 | French schoolgirl's accusations of exposure to antireligious & sexual images got her teacher beheaded, sparked violent riots. Now she admits she made it all up.Fun fact: there's a mess right now in france because a teacher at science po dared to say that he wasn't happy with a thematic day about "antisemitism, racism, and islamophobia" because to him the three shouldn't be lumped together; while the first two legally are discrimination, the third one is more problematic since, because of secularism, in france you have the right to criticize or insult a religion, since it isn't considered a person. You just can't insult its followers. So lumping them to… | /r/MensRights | 10/03/21 03:41 PM |
| 7 | French schoolgirl's accusations of exposure to antireligious & sexual images got her teacher beheaded, sparked violent riots. Now she admits she made it all up.It's not a "lying little girl". The problem is that there is a whole culture of false accusations for one's benefits that is running rampant and that isn't taken seriously/is being covered by others, so people are more likely to do it. This little girl is just a single manifestation of this problem, but the problem itself is a global one. | /r/MensRights | 10/03/21 03:22 PM |
| 6 | French schoolgirl's accusations of exposure to antireligious & sexual images got her teacher beheaded, sparked violent riots. Now she admits she made it all up.It's a global problem. She wasn't the one that killed him, but all of this happened become of extremists not accepting the laws of the country they're in (secularism) AND a victimhood and false accusation culture that encourages such actions. The two problems are empowering each other, so to say. The second is the sparkle that makes the first one explode. They're closely related, and it's wrong to say that "it changes nothing". False accusations and victimhood culture are giving the extremists t… | /r/MensRights | 10/03/21 03:19 PM |
| 3 | Has anyone kept up with the /r/superstraight shitshow debacle?The image would be one thing. They have also hijacked their political and societal power, which makes the whole thing even more problematic. Being a leftist nowadays is a mess. So much that I can't even blame people blaming it on the left, despite what you just said. As long as political power goes, the left has been completely hijacked. | /r/MensRights | 10/03/21 02:55 PM |
| 4 | And the comment saying she should give him back the money is downvoted with several people finding the situation hilarious. The best we get that is actually upvoted is “you are both horrible people”So do I, I've had some in my social circle when I was younger. Which is why I'm not surprised. It's indeed not going to become any better soon, since our culture and most people actually support people like that, particularly if they can make up a sad sob story that goes along with it. If you incentivize something, people are going to use it. Working both on yourself and or your relationships with other people is work. I wish people reacted this way towards both sexes; it'd very quickly lead to … | /r/MensRights | 10/03/21 02:48 PM |
| 4 | And the comment saying she should give him back the money is downvoted with several people finding the situation hilarious. The best we get that is actually upvoted is “you are both horrible people”Her being an asshole isn't that surprising, people like that do exist. People supporting her, calling the guy horrible "because he broke up with her" (and this looks extremely mild as far as break-ups go, ) or thinking that "donating to an association" would be a good answer are the real problem. | /r/MensRights | 10/03/21 02:30 PM |
| 9 | And the comment saying she should give him back the money is downvoted with several people finding the situation hilarious. The best we get that is actually upvoted is “you are both horrible people”The worst part being that some are justifying because "he broke un with you in such an horrible way". Uh. This is far from "horrible". If this is "horrible" and enough to justify deception and thievery, I'm pretty sure some of my own breakups would be enough to justify way worse according to these idiots. What the hell is this "justification"? How the hell does this make him a "predator"? Do these people even look into a mirror sometimes? If this is being a predator, then I don't know what to ca… | /r/MensRights | 10/03/21 02:25 PM |
| 28 | French schoolgirl's accusations of exposure to antireligious & sexual images got her teacher beheaded, sparked violent riots. Now she admits she made it all up.The worst part being that she basically made up a whole story to justify herself getting excluded (see my post below), because she didn't want to admit that she had been excluded for bad behaviour. But yeah, yeah, people definitely never falsely accuse others, right? | /r/MensRights | 10/03/21 02:17 PM |
| 11 | French schoolgirl's accusations of exposure to antireligious & sexual images got her teacher beheaded, sparked violent riots. Now she admits she made it all up.To be fair, the actual killer was a man. And it's a lot more messy than that since whole organizations got involved as well. The real problem being that it's STILL an exemple of the consequences false accusations can have on someone, and yet it's STILL not taken seriously and people will STILL parrot the "nobody would possibly lie about [x]" line; replace [x] with just about anything. | /r/MensRights | 10/03/21 02:16 PM |
| 9 | French schoolgirl's accusations of exposure to antireligious & sexual images got her teacher beheaded, sparked violent riots. Now she admits she made it all up."Anti-muslim". Seriously now? Anyway, although the title is pure clickbait, which is expected since other countries keep distorting this case however they like, you're wrong as well, even moreso than the title. She did lie about her being exposed to these caricatures and everything else that followed. She told her father that he forced muslims to identify themselves and forced them to leave the class, and that because she refused to leave she had been excluded, when in truth the tacher just said… | /r/MensRights | 10/03/21 02:06 PM |
| 3 | Teenager here (14M), and I support the Mens Rights Movement.And letting go of one wrong leads to negative reinforcement. What now? No, "always being the better person" doesn't always work as an answer. In fact, it's counterproductive more often than not, it's what causes spoiled brat behaviour. If people can get away with it and are encouraged for it, they'll do it. So it seems that YOUR parents didn't do their job quite correctly as well (this comment wasn't really necessary but hey, if you want to be condescending, others can play this little game as w… | /r/MensRights | 09/03/21 12:00 PM |
| 2 | "entitlement" when used in the realm of gender discussions is a word I've come to dislike. This is why.It's not directly related to the whole "nice guys feel entitled" phenomenon, but to add to the "entitlement" problem, which is a buzzword that I've disliked for a fairly long time because of it constantly being abused; particularly by women, but we only have feminism to thank for that since it has managed to conflate bad behaviour and "being strong and independent", otherwise it'd just be a global problem caused by our the last hyper-individualistic generations; Add to that the fact that even ou… | /r/MensRights | 08/03/21 11:18 PM |
| 1 | "entitlement" when used in the realm of gender discussions is a word I've come to dislike. This is why.If there's one sub that would be at risk of being brigaded, it most certainly wouldn't be this one anyway since people there are rational. | /r/MensRights | 08/03/21 10:31 PM |
| 3 | Feminism isn't evilProbably the "helped a lot" part. It's usually referring to the right to vote, and this completely ignore the fact that men didn't have the RIGHT to vote neither; it was something they were granted in exchange for conscription. No conscription = no vote. While feminism both made it look like it was something innate for men, AND made it so that women received this right without giving up anything in exchange. And then there's the fact that nearly every single thing that "helped" (e.g. rape laws) … | /r/MensRights | 08/03/21 10:12 PM |
| 3 | Friends were discussing feminism . He made this point . Is he right?It depends a lot of what you actually can do. Spreading the good word, correcting false statistics and promoting any initiative available, or creating some depending of your possibilities. As an example, there's this https://malepsychology.org.uk/2020/02/12/the-male-psychology-undergraduate-module-a-first-for-the-uk-and-the-world/ https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/khln1y/this_is_an_excellent_interview_with_the_lead/ that is fairly recent and a good step in the right direction. Today's… | /r/MensRights | 06/03/21 08:13 PM |
| 7 | Friends were discussing feminism . He made this point . Is he right?Men are the "evil oppressors" according to the narrative (and said narrative is false, but it has been repeated enough for people to believe in it. E.g., DV numbers or the reason men don't talk about DV, which is because of the EVIL PATRIARCHY and their own pride anyway, and of course not at all because it's used against them and they're assumed to be perpetrators instead of victims if they dare to talk about it). How much support, particularly from the medias, politicians, or even from the brai… | /r/MensRights | 06/03/21 07:53 PM |
| 1 | With tough times coming, don't be a safety net.Why the hell should anything be "normalized"? To hell with that. Not to mention that for a ton of people, having a kid that is THEIR is kind of a serious matter, which becomes a problem after a certain age and if the person decide that it doesn't want any more children. "Normalize" whatever you want, but "normalize" it for yourself, and that's it. | /r/MensRights | 04/03/21 06:52 PM |
| 3 | Im utterly speechless on how BuzzFeed allowed this article to be publishedWant to know what is TRULY awful? Think for a second about the younger ones, the ones that are probably around 3/4 years old right now, that will grow up in a culture like that, and that will be growing up in a social networks-infested society from their birth onwards. The results probably aren't going to be pretty. Given the effect this culture can have even on "sane" and truly egalitarian people once they notice that men can indeed be quite convenient as a scapegoat, the effect it will have on… | /r/MensRights | 04/03/21 11:13 AM |
| 1 | Better Bachelor: Looks like even the Denmark Government knows smart men won't date womenThe "most" part is not what AWALT means. It just means that all of them CAN be like that. In other words, because of how society works, your "unicorn" can decide screw you over royally and will get the support of the state; hell, the support of EVERYONE; for it. In this context the "most" or no "just a few bad ones" parts don't matters, really. The only thing that matters is that misandry is encouraged and promoted by the state and western culture, so someone that isn't a part of these pseudo-fe… | /r/MensRights | 04/03/21 10:45 AM |
| 1 | Better Bachelor: Looks like even the Denmark Government knows smart men won't date womenThat is, if the court agree to it. And given how things are and how feminist of a country france is, you know how it usually goes. | /r/MensRights | 04/03/21 10:30 AM |
| 2 | Don't fight their battles - Don't be a white knight."Dont be a white knight" > "Incel propaganda". Well, it does show how far we've gotten, I suppose. | /r/MensRights | 27/02/21 12:48 PM |
| 1 | Again accused by my gf!And yet, she still CON-SEN-TED. You really have problems with this word, don't you? If you consent to sex despite having vaginal or penile pain tomorrow, it still doesn't make your partner guilty of anything at all. | /r/MensRights | 24/02/21 03:00 PM |
| 1 | Again accused by my gf!And in the same way, consent can be granted again at any time, which she did. So, it seems like you don't even get the problem here (also, at any time? What a joke. At least try to add "prior to the act"). The question being whether this was "under pressure" or not. And it wasn't. Otherwise, asking for something twice would count as forcefully imposing anything to anyone. If to you this is "a gray area", you have serious problems. | /r/MensRights | 24/02/21 12:30 PM |
| 1 | Again accused by my gf!Because she's a lunatic. Consent and being forced to something doesn't work this way. Otherwise, you're literally oppressed any time someone asks you for something. This isn't "a gray area", it's rewriting definitions as you see fit. | /r/MensRights | 24/02/21 12:25 PM |
| 6 | CNN: We should be teaching our boys to be proud simpsNot to mention that, despite what the ones arguing that it only means "nice" say, it's just being a sexist and nothing else. When a person that is usually a jerk or don't give a damn about anyone suddenly is "just nice" to milady, no, it's not "just being nice". That's what the ones constantly complaining "but he was just being nice to me" constantly miss. Men seem to usually know how men behave towards other men, so they're better suited when it comes to recognizing preferential treatment based… | /r/MensRights | 24/02/21 12:11 PM |
| 2 | CNN: We should be teaching our boys to be proud simpsI love the typical comeback, "a simp is just a man that is nice to women!", that many women give. Uh, no. You're only thinking that because, from your privileged position, you're unable to see that they are bigots and, in your own selfishness, don't care about how they behave to others, or about anyone else, really. Not only would these simps be sexist even if they treated men well, because simpiness is usually way, way above what is considered average "respect", but more often than not it's pre… | /r/MensRights | 24/02/21 12:00 PM |
| 2 | "If a man isn't married, he's creepy."You're missing the whole sour grapes aspect here, which is way more important in women later in life than it is for men, making the situation asymmetrical. Most of the idiots shaming men for this aren't tradcons nowadays, although they are a problem as well, it's women too old to find a partner they're interested in willing to marry them and not just have a relationship. Which makes an huge difference. It's usually the same ones that are complaining about men dating younger, for obvious reasons.… | /r/MensRights | 24/02/21 11:28 AM |
| 1 | "If a man isn't married, he's creepy."It's not necessarily related to the lawyer being incompetent. It's a "I was pressured when I signed it" problem. Which makes the idea an huge gamble. | /r/MensRights | 24/02/21 11:20 AM |
| 2 | "If a man isn't married, he's creepy."Partly true, but it's not limited to that. Traditional values are bad when it comes to this, no question about that, that's for sure, but entitled women (often feminists, unsurprisingly) too old and unable to find a partner they're interested in AND that is willing to marry them are repeating exactly the same thing. And since feminists love using pretty much any kind of shaming towards men, they're using it as well even if they're not a part of the "bitter and unmarried" group; any reason to sha… | /r/MensRights | 24/02/21 11:17 AM |
| 1 | "If a man isn't married, he's creepy."It IS ridiculously common. But also quite specific when it comes to the ones saying this (although feminists tend to repeat it brainlessly even if they're not concerned, because hey, any male-hating is good, right?). The ones you'll hear saying this are a very specific age group, women in their 30/35+ that can't manage to get in a serious relationship with someone serious as well anymore. The equivalent of incels, basically. That's when the shaming come in; it's just the same idea as the "men ar… | /r/MensRights | 24/02/21 11:08 AM |
| 2 | Why do people on this sub act like some men don't contribute to hurtful and incorrect ideas about men?Now Men are capable of all types of violence and so on but when caught they go to jail period. That's the part she apparently refuses to understand. Despite the fact that rape is recognized for men...But only when the culprit is another man. The difference being that bad behaviour is actively being encouraged or routinely ignored for women; which makes it so that since there's no punishment, there's no deterrent against it neither. And everything else she complains about are things that are enfo… | /r/MensRights | 24/02/21 10:58 AM |
| 1 | Why do people on this sub act like some men don't contribute to hurtful and incorrect ideas about men?More accurately, it's unrelated anyway because these men behaving like bigots towards other men are more often than not like this thanks to them growing in a feminist culture that taught them that bigotry is fine and even required. Not that this person would care. Also, whatthe fuck is this person smoking, people here are, in fact, constantly saying that male feminists are often even worse than female ones. Although given some of her other posts I guess she just can't accept the idea that women … | /r/MensRights | 24/02/21 10:52 AM |
| 1 | Bunch of feminists saying "Kill all men" is ok. To all people saying that they never saw misandry in r/feminism, here is why feminism is just an excuse for misandry, power and enhance female privileges.The problem being when feminists start defending them or using their rhetoric when it becomes useful to them. MRA's relationship with feminism would be way less tense if this wasn't the case. | /r/MensRights | 16/02/21 11:38 PM |
| 1 | Bunch of feminists saying "Kill all men" is ok. To all people saying that they never saw misandry in r/feminism, here is why feminism is just an excuse for misandry, power and enhance female privileges.Then again, feminists will immediatly complain about the existence of the word "feminazi" afterward, despite the fact that it was explicitly created to create a difference between "real feminists" and these ones, back when feminism still had some level of credibility for people. And the most common complain you'll hear is "yeah but I was being nice truly equalitarian and all and people still called me that, so for them feminists = feminazi". No, it's just that at this point it's normal for a ton… | /r/MensRights | 16/02/21 10:36 PM |
| 1 | Transphobia is noticeably anti-male (and to a lesser extent anti-woman)Define "hate". Because if "not recognizing as [x] gender" counts as hate for you, it's pretty much the same for both sides. It's just that our culture as a whole is more tolerant of tomboyish women than girly men, and people's reactions toward trans people is an extension of that. | /r/MensRights | 16/02/21 12:00 PM |
| 1 | Transphobia is noticeably anti-male (and to a lesser extent anti-woman)That's not how it works, and the fact that you generalize "puberty blockers" as being "safe" despite the fact that it includes things like cypro, which used to be used as one and can cause (like any T-killer that kills T instead of neutralizing it) bone density problem among other things if taken without estrogen as a replacement for T, shows me that either you're quite biased, or you don't know that much about it. Saying that "puberty blockers", as a WHOLE," have no permanent effects" when even… | /r/MensRights | 16/02/21 11:55 AM |
| 2 | Why is r/againstmensrights even a thing?I'm way late to the party, but meanwhile, this person didn't respond to any of your arguments, while there are non-cherry picked data proving that the wage gap, DV or rape studies, etc problems are scams... | /r/MensRights | 16/02/21 03:04 AM |
| 1 | My problem with “toxic masculinity”Everything to take the blame away from others. It's like the good ol' "men don't open up". It's not because they know it'll be used against them because of this damn empathy gap, because they aren't valued, and because they know they're seen as fair targets and an automatic culprit anyway, PARTICULARLY nowadays, nope. They just don't open up because they're trying to "conform to gender roles". As to why even the ones not giving a single damn about gender roles still often end up following the pa… | /r/MensRights | 16/02/21 01:41 AM |
| 8 | Bunch of feminists saying "Kill all men" is ok. To all people saying that they never saw misandry in r/feminism, here is why feminism is just an excuse for misandry, power and enhance female privileges.Unrelated. There's sexism towards both genders. And sexism towards men is actually way less recognized. Which makes the fact that they took rape jokes, of all jokes, instead of things like, say, "gold-diggers"(which is a gendered thing), as an "argument" and as the origin of this sentence that much more ridiculous. Rape is ONLY taken seriously when it comes to women, so gendering their imaginary "issue" towards black humor and their response to it (killallMEN, when they're not the only ones joki… | /r/MensRights | 16/02/21 12:47 AM |
| 8 | Bunch of feminists saying "Kill all men" is ok. To all people saying that they never saw misandry in r/feminism, here is why feminism is just an excuse for misandry, power and enhance female privileges.Also, validity of the "argument" aside, saying "killallmen" doesn't stop the ones using it to cry about how anyone joking about a woman is a misogynistic monster, even if they try to make it look like a "you punched me, I punch you back" situation. It's just a poorly hidden "I have the right to do it, you don't" otherwise they wouldn't go full witch hunt and cancel culture on anyone saying a controversial joke about women. The average killallmen user definitely wouldn't let a man make a joke abo… | /r/MensRights | 16/02/21 12:35 AM |
| 6 | Bunch of feminists saying "Kill all men" is ok. To all people saying that they never saw misandry in r/feminism, here is why feminism is just an excuse for misandry, power and enhance female privileges.It's not even "an eye for an eye" despite the awkward justification, which makes it even more ridiculous. Do you honestly think that the ones justifying it by saying that "it's payback for men using black humor about rape!" would therefore shut up about black humor aimed at women, since you "authorize" killallmen as well? The justify it by said black humor (and rape jokes are probably more common towards rape than women anyway, see the "dropped the soap" classic one) while still wanting to polic… | /r/MensRights | 16/02/21 12:25 AM |
| 10 | Bunch of feminists saying "Kill all men" is ok. To all people saying that they never saw misandry in r/feminism, here is why feminism is just an excuse for misandry, power and enhance female privileges.It's hypocritical anyway. So, it's a way to respond to men and black humor when it comes to men? 1# men can be victim of rape too. But who cares? 2# so, does that mean that since both genders are equal now, people can make rape jokes without you throwing a fit about it constantly? Since we're "authorizing" the equivalent for men? No? How come? You should recognize it as people just pushing your triggers and justifying it this way, just like you do with kill all men "jokes". "HAHA IT'S JUST AN AN… | /r/MensRights | 16/02/21 12:10 AM |
| 2 | In 9th grade they installed two gender neutral restrooms at my school. The girls complained that is was Sexist, and Within 2 hours they changed the sign on one door to female only, and left the other one gender neutral. We now have 2 girls restrooms, one boys and one gender neutral restroom.Stop pretending to defend minorities, be it non-binaries, gays, or whatever by being a giant idiot and a bigot just to complain about others being bigots and "not letting others have their place to shit" afterward. Disgusting. You're, like all people using your kind of arguments, conflating snowflakephobic and lgbtphobic. | /r/MensRights | 15/02/21 11:54 PM |
| 2 | "The under-reporting of domestic violence against men due to embarrassment or fear of ridicule is a major challenge in Nigeria as a result of the sensitive nature of the subject. The victims are often in self-denial." (Busari, Owojuyigbe, and Ajao 2017)The problem being that if you tell them that, they can't say that it's the fault of gender roles, thez patriarchy, and toxic masculinity, so they don't like it, despite the fact that it's a way bigger reason. | /r/MensRights | 11/02/21 05:57 PM |
| 3 | According to Justice Minister Eric Dupond-Moretti, “An act of sexual penetration by an adult on a minor under 15 will be considered a rape.”Legally, the boy is a victim. When it comes to facts, you can probably guess how it usually goes. How the law goes and how people see it, including the police, are two different things. If it's done by a man, it's considered rape, otherwise it's still severely downplayed and you get the "he wanted it" line, or he's the rapist somehow. There has recently been a problem with a gay 18 years old with dead parents living with a 30 years old and having consensual relationships with him, that are now r… | /r/MensRights | 11/02/21 05:38 PM |
| 6 | Are women or men treated better by the system? A trans man's (biological woman) perspectiveWell, a fair number of people are t but not exactly on board with the whole "inclusive of absolutely EVERYONE even when it makes no sense" train, so there's that, the thing is that people usually don't hear about these since they are usually not the ones making the most noise and RE-QUI-RING the whole world to call them their preferred pronoun despite them growing a beard. So it's easy to forget that there's quite a divide over what a "trans" is, even inside the community, between the ones think… | /r/MensRights | 11/02/21 12:21 AM |
| 1 | Sociological studies asking the wrong questions to make men look badI'd add that it's not just about OTHER men; more often than not it's also true of the man himself. Said in/out-group bias makes self-report studies unreliable to no end, and yet it's rarely adressed (or blamed on "the patriarchy" despite said bias being in no small part caused by biology). I can't count the number of guy I knew that went through hell, and yet still thought that "women have it worse than me". Even when it was obviously false. Self-reporting can be quite unreliable depending of ho… | /r/MensRights | 10/02/21 11:01 PM |
| 8 | Are women or men treated better by the system? A trans man's (biological woman) perspectiveTrans not being used anymore in the trans community? What? Transsexual is just the more "serious" version when you're trying to sound less casual and more academic. | /r/MensRights | 10/02/21 10:21 PM |
| 1 | I s feminism about revenge?Yeah, no. There isn't a clear divide like that which is the problem. Said "nice feminism" is a front even used by radicals when they push a motte and bailey fallacy, by playing on the two definitions feminism has and how one interprets "equality". 1/There is equality, being absolutely similar. 2/And then there is equality, bringing one up to the level of someone else. Which, when two groups are inherently different, is going to cause inequalities by itself. Hence why feminists always open with "… | /r/MensRights | 09/02/21 01:05 PM |
| 1 | Tired of the "Men are evil" narrative and self-victimisation of womenThe problem isn't whether it's a majority or not. It's that it's a growing cultural trend, aimed at women (among others), and using the fact that most people WILL use scapegoats if given the opportunity to avoid acknowledging that they did do something that wasn't all that smart (e.g. flashing your rolex collection in the middle of a neighborhood with a bad reputation; sure you're not the culprit and you ARE a victim and shouldn't be blamed, but it was still a careless thing to do because the wo… | /r/MensRights | 08/02/21 11:24 PM |
| 0 | Tired of the "Men are evil" narrative and self-victimisation of womenIt doesn't make sense anyway, countless MtF are treated better as when presenting as a women than as a men, transphobes notwithstanding of course. It can be an interesting EXPERIENCE to share, that's for sure, but as an argument of authority? Err. I'm going to say no. Too many factors that can influence the outcome other than the gender you're presenting as at a specific moment, even if you're 100% passing (first of all, age). Not to mention that there's countless other exemples of FtM that had … | /r/MensRights | 08/02/21 10:28 PM |
| 1 | Tired of the "Men are evil" narrative and self-victimisation of womenScapegoating tends to be extremely useful when it comes to avoiding accountability and not having to do the hard work - seeing your own flaws and problems and working on it - and our current culture is encouraging it to an insane degree. Who needs something like "common sense" when you can just try to force the whole world to kneel before you regarding what your little navel wants? The problem being that this kind of behaviour isn't that great when it comes to personal growth (and even less so w… | /r/MensRights | 08/02/21 10:20 PM |
| 1 | Tired of the "Men are evil" narrative and self-victimisation of womenIn the end it's a genetic matter. Things like gait can change under the influence of hormones and depending of your age, or if you're very lucky, your hips might get wider. I'd heavily disagree about your 98% statistic, but it's basically a genetic lottery thing; it works better if you're androgynous/confused with a woman even before hormones. Disagree on the voice thing but that's a learning matter anyway, assuming that you're not born with a voice completely unfit for vocal training. Most peop… | /r/MensRights | 08/02/21 10:04 PM |
| 1 | Tired of the "Men are evil" narrative and self-victimisation of womenJust trust me when I tell you that it's way more unlikely for a trans person not to pass if they're going through transitioning. Surgeries and hormones can do a lot of really cool shit to your body, just saying. What the heck are you saying. Hormones and surgery are everything but magic. Not talking about you specifically right now, but you're deluded if you think that surgery and hormone can do wonders and make you pass, and it can give the wrong idea to people. It mainly works if you're alread… | /r/MensRights | 08/02/21 09:51 PM |
| 1 | Tired of the "Men are evil" narrative and self-victimisation of womenIt's not even wht rape culture is in the first place. If anything this would fall back, ONCE AGAIN, they're really convenient scapegoats, on gender roles. Rape culture is the trivialization and normalization of rape. Not "women are taught to play hard-to-get and men are taught to be assertive" (which is debatable anyway since the issue is more complicated than that, saying that it's just "the culture" ignore the fact that it's partly like that because men are still supposed to be the ones riskin… | /r/MensRights | 08/02/21 09:37 PM |
| 2 | Tired of the "Men are evil" narrative and self-victimisation of womenKnow how to have a conversation? "MUH I'M TRANS I'M RIGHT AND A KNOW AND NO ONE ELSE DOES, SHUT UP". That's a two-sided conversation for you? That's rich. Not to mention that it's hilarious how you just assume things about others like that yourself, thinking it'll give you the high ground and the ONE legitimate experience. You having a better experience as a man means next-to-nothing when there are countless examples of the opposite. So, swallow your "trump card" back. The trans community alread… | /r/MensRights | 08/02/21 09:27 PM |
| 1 | Tired of the "Men are evil" narrative and self-victimisation of womenYou're the one having a fixation on rape here. Op said It's not safe for most people to walk alone at night. You can be attacked by men or women. They act like they're the only ones who are unsafe at night and in society but they forget about men who aren't jacked, who don't know how to fight, who are short, skinny and may even be disabled or have a chronic illness. If the only thing you can think about is "rapists" then you obviously don't know what you're talking about assault-wise. No, you do… | /r/MensRights | 08/02/21 09:00 PM |
| 11 | Tired of the "Men are evil" narrative and self-victimisation of womenEveryone is equally unsafe as soon as a weapon, even if it's just a knife, a bat, or just about anything, gets involved. Not to mention that smaller guys are possibly even more at risk since they wouldn't benefit from the "don't hit women" mentality that does have an heavy influence in most situations. Men are fair targets. And then there's the fact that in most situations, there will be multiple attackers. So "men can at least throw a punch back"... Have you really already been in such a situat… | /r/MensRights | 08/02/21 06:19 PM |
| 6 | M&M’s uses “mansplaining” as part of super bowl commercial.Let's see him in a commercial talking about gold-diggers and have a laugh. | /r/MensRights | 08/02/21 06:05 PM |
| 5 | Tired of the "Men are evil" narrative and self-victimisation of womenHell, men are being called misogynist for applying the mike pence rule anyway. Remember the rant about facebook's CEO basically saying that men don't have the right to avoid being alone with women? Even if we admitted that it's the same thing, and it's not, in one situation it's isolating yourself, in the other it's demonizing a group of people, men are still criticized, ridiculed, considered everything under the sun for it while women are supposedly ""empowered"" by it. It really says a lot whe… | /r/MensRights | 08/02/21 04:43 PM |
| 6 | Tired of the "Men are evil" narrative and self-victimisation of womenThat's not criticizing all young women, genius. It's criticizing society and its current trends that tries to put this in the head of women. Luckily, it doesn't work for some. But it works way too well for others, particularly younger or less mature people that abuse scapegoating. Women aren't the problem, this societal narrative of perpetual victimhood is. And it happens to target women, among others groups; as a non-neurotypical I can as an example affirm that it's quite a tumor in some ND com… | /r/MensRights | 08/02/21 04:15 PM |
| 2 | Marilyn Manson slams sexual abuse allegations as Internet says his BFF Johnny Depp was 'falsely accused' tooAsking for this is oppressive for the victim, silly. And if there's evidence, they'll just ignore it and say that it shouldn't matter. I've actually been arguing with a sjw using the "2%" line to justify themselves not questioning the claims, and apparently even if you explain to them how this statistic doesn't work and thus it is stupid to ignore due process because of this, they will just not understand or accept it. And being DAMN NEUTRAL is oppressive to the victim (apparently the man who is… | /r/MensRights | 08/02/21 03:53 PM |
| 1 | Students Hate Toxic Masculinity... But Can't Define What It Is (including gender studies major who says, yeah we talk about it all the time, "what is it?" Ermmm I dunno) 😂 😂 😂 This is feminism goal of course... to get people to subconsciously associate men with "bad" "toxic"I agree overall but we're talking about different things referred to as "toxic masculinity". I'm talking about the supposed "gender roles that are forced on men that makes them behave an harmful way for themselves". E.g. not opening up, not recognizing being abused, etc, which is supposedly "because of gender roles", not because it's the behaviour enforced even by supposedly anti-gender roles people. I'm talking about the ones blaming any problem men have on male gender roles and the fault of th… | /r/MensRights | 26/01/21 03:55 PM |
| 74 | Boy raised by feminist speaks out. Mods mute anyone commenting on feminism and lock the threadThe good old no true scotsman. Meanwhile, they're throwing a fit if you dare to say a "not all men" or whatever else, assuming that it means that yes, you're one of the problematic ones. Spot the hypocrisy. "When a feminist does something bad, she's not a TRUE FEMINIST™, but when any man dare to say that [x "toxic" thing] is not a "man" thing or a male gender role thing, it's just a proof that the man is one of these!". Great logic here. | /r/MensRights | 18/01/21 08:58 PM |
| 4 | Why do feminists get mad when you use evidence from 2016 yet they use evidence from the 70s?Because bashing feminism is 100% justified in this situation, like many others? Again, an strict ideology exacerbates this kind of behaviour. So saying that OP is blaming superficial things, that somehow includes ideology, is ridiculous. Feminism does make this matter worse due to feminist theory and the power it possess on society which encourages the idea of there being a victimhood in its own ideology, thus justifying any bad argument. You're trying to dissociate the two, when Feminist ideolo… | /r/MensRights | 18/01/21 08:50 PM |
| 3 | Why do feminists get mad when you use evidence from 2016 yet they use evidence from the 70s?. Also, you've just generalized an entire group of people based on a superficial quality. Do you really think there is something inherent about feminism that would cause them to act and think differently than other humans? Yes, what you're saying is nonsense. Your point only make sense when it comes to general things (race, sex, etc), not to ideological biases, that you, despite this, include in your list of "things that don't make you act or thing differently". You were really clear, and you fu… | /r/MensRights | 18/01/21 08:24 PM |
| 4 | Why do feminists get mad when you use evidence from 2016 yet they use evidence from the 70s?It doesn't work that way when the ideology itself is problematic. Replace YOUR way of thinking with "KKK members" and then we'll talk. And yes, an ideology tends to influence how you interact with others. Some WOMEN are reasonable. Turns out that being a woman doesn't involve having an ideological bias and feminist theory. So your "men" example is stupid to no end. Chauvinists? Re-read the definition of a chauvinist. If you're talking about a real one, and not it being used as an insult, yes, it… | /r/MensRights | 18/01/21 07:02 PM |
| 2 | Taking a poll on why people became MRA's:Lacking poll. Some points aren't mutually exclusive. Namely 1 and 2. | /r/MensRights | 07/01/21 10:46 PM |
| 1 | Toxic Masculinity Doesn't Exist - An Essay | Not mine, but I thought it would make a worthy addition to this sub, even if just as food for thoughtEmphasis on "behaviour". Not "gender roles". Which is just a feminist's way to avoid addressing 3/4 of the issue and remove any accountability when the concept backfire on them. And even the "toxic" part of it could be argued depending of what count as "toxic masculinity" in the feeling of this person this particular day. More often than not, "TM" as it is used is a rational response to a bad situation. And definitely not something that can be summed up as a "gender role matter", that's just usi… | /r/MensRights | 07/01/21 10:42 PM |
| 11 | Feminist trying to say MRA bad cos some random post with 12 dislikes on reddit.. Meanwhile editor of NUMBER ONE feminist journal on gender, & DIRECTOR of gender studies PUBLISHED this hate speech (IMO biggest hate speech published in MSM this century) in Washington Post “Nah not real feminist” 😂Not his fault if your ''arguments'' are, as always, KKK level . 'Yes but if we skip the whole text, look at these two words, and interpret it in this particular way that I like, it makes it so that we're not discriminatory or judgemental, see! Not hate speech, it's just hyperbolic!' Pitiful as always. You're one of the first ones to scream 'not all feminists' or 'this isn't feminism', but are a prime example of the problem with you always justifying crap even some radfems wouldn't even dare to j… | /r/MensRights | 07/01/21 02:54 AM |
| 1 | PUSH FOR FEMALE EQUALITY?Not particularly, even popularism has its own counter-power and is often seen as a bad word. The things that usually don't are the things that are making people swallow snakes in the name of "fairness", etc. While popularism is still seen as a bad word by a good part of the population, things like racism are never seen as a good one. The best way to have no counter-power is to say you're fighting for "fairness" at least as long as your facade is concerned. Not that fairness shouldn't be defended… | /r/MensRights | 06/01/21 01:23 PM |
| 1 | PUSH FOR FEMALE EQUALITY?Not the actual problem. The problem is that feminism is essentially a power without a real counterpower, by virtue of being based on empathy and few people actually want to be one of the "bad guys". That's what makes it particularly risky and open to abuse. It has an absolute lack of counterpower, which makes it particularly prone to abuse created by human nature. Powers with counterpowers are dangerous, and feminism (just like every other fight badly used by the sjw movement) is a part of this,… | /r/MensRights | 05/01/21 03:54 PM |
| 1 | PUSH FOR FEMALE EQUALITY?Wow someone got something massively wrong not suprising its not as if these things go unchallenged, there's shit tonnes of criticism including from feminists. Again abortion is a hot topic, and really hard to legislate on which is a pain, like how does one prove that a man never wanted a child when engaging in sex, forced abortions are kinda eh, but men not having to deal with child support sounds g. Feminism can discuss this too, but u dont have to be a feminist u can just philosophize about it… | /r/MensRights | 04/01/21 10:01 PM |
| 1 | PUSH FOR FEMALE EQUALITY?Not "not gender". Not "gender roles". There's a difference. You can, say, face sexism without it being a gender roles issue. One doesn't need "stereotypical roles" to be racist or to be less valued, as an example. The core problem (that we are talking about here) is gender; of course there are problems that have other sources in society, but gender != gender roles, which is the main thing feminism blame for everything (e.g. toxic masculinity) despite being a ridiculous essentialization where you… | /r/MensRights | 04/01/21 10:00 PM |
| 2 | "Let’s Stop Cheapening Combat: Women Are Not the Primary Victims of War" - Response to Hilary Cliniton's (and general feminism's) WoMeNZ MoST AfFecTeDThat's called being realistic. Not everyone is nice and if they can get benefits out of something, they will. You were. In case you didn't notice, this isn't a post about how war is horrible for everyone including for civilians, which is something everyone can agree upon if it doesn't downplay the suffering of the ones dying to protect others in wars. It's a post about Hilary's crap and the fact that she's gendering things first and foremost. Yeah, so what, does that make one gender the "primary… | /r/MensRights | 04/01/21 06:39 PM |
| 2 | PUSH FOR FEMALE EQUALITY?There's a group for you then, it's called egalitarians. The problem with feminists being that it's not just "fighting for one group", it's fighting for one group while also having to accept a number of postulates (patriarchy theory, gender roles as the big boogeyman that is the cause of every single problem under the sun, oppressor/oppressed dynamics in society, etc), otherwise you're not doing it right. Egalitarianism seems right up your alley. This being said, a group about men's rights will t… | /r/MensRights | 04/01/21 06:10 PM |
| 2 | PUSH FOR FEMALE EQUALITY?but i am sympathetic to the dismantling of rigid gender roles and expectations i think the term patriarchy is fine but like whatever u want to call it. There's your problem. The vast majority of MRA aren't in favor of any "patriarchy" nonsense, which is an attempt at misplacing the origin of various problems to avoid having an in-depth look at it which could be more complicated and less beneficial for feminism. And it's one thing to be against gender roles, it's another one to blame them for any… | /r/MensRights | 04/01/21 05:55 PM |
| 2 | I have a question!See: https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/knx48g/most_participants_thought_the_term_toxic/ghv8l30/ Your last sentence alone shows that you don't get what the concept is supposed to be about even in its "academic meaning" (which is still nonsense because it's way too reductive to be useful or a good tool to represent the world, mind you). It's supposed to be about gender roles and PEOPLE enforcing them on others; which can apply to women just as much if not more, as if men didn't adjust t… | /r/MensRights | 04/01/21 05:54 AM |
| 1 | Are mens rights against neurodiversity or fighting against ableism because someone said that they were in conflict with those viewsI'm autistic myself. There is no problem between neurodiversity and men's rights by itself. In fact, autistic men often face huge problems and are treated in ridiculous ways for any stupid reason, like their body language being misunderstood or what they do or say because they're awkward socially being misunderstood even a little bit. Which is a fairly big problem. What could be problematic is if the activism follows the framework of "the whole word needs to change for ME, I don't have to adapt … | /r/MensRights | 03/01/21 09:52 PM |
| 2 | "Let’s Stop Cheapening Combat: Women Are Not the Primary Victims of War" - Response to Hilary Cliniton's (and general feminism's) WoMeNZ MoST AfFecTeDThey aren't. You're just having weird fantasies about the military. Yes, they are defensive, an army isn't even required to hurt civilians in the first place. You however require one to defend yourself. What a joke. Do you know why "countries with no army" are doing fine? Because they're usually under the protectorate of another country and there's a mutual interest in said country surviving. No, they aren't "over-represented". Again, you're just projecting your own negative image of the militar… | /r/MensRights | 03/01/21 08:30 PM |
| 5 | Thoughts on r/MensLib postDoesn't change the fact that feminism stops men from addressing these issues, which is the problem. Everything wasn't sugar and rainbows before feminism, but feminism outright stop men from addressing some points such as DV. | /r/MensRights | 03/01/21 06:48 PM |
| 6 | Thoughts on r/MensLib postYeah, because finger-pointing when another group is the direct cause of a ton of issues is bad, of course. Ironically enough, it's the exact opposite of what you are saying; you can't solve problems without pointing out the cause of a lot of the problems. | /r/MensRights | 03/01/21 05:44 PM |
| 2 | "Let’s Stop Cheapening Combat: Women Are Not the Primary Victims of War" - Response to Hilary Cliniton's (and general feminism's) WoMeNZ MoST AfFecTeDYeah, ok, you don't get what the military exist for at all then. It explains a lot of things. No, people don't go in the military because they want to kill people randomly. Militaries are there to prevent the suffering of your own civilians. Blame politicians (like, say... clinton?) if you have a problem with people starting wars. Soldiers are mainly following orders, and it's not exactly fun for them in any situation. PTSD is a thing for a reason. Having an army is a necessity to protect your d… | /r/MensRights | 03/01/21 05:30 PM |
| 2 | As MRAs, are you guys Pro-Choice or Pro-Life?Pro-choice. I live in a country where abortion is legal and paid by the state anyway so it's natural for me. I still have a list of problems with it though. First, depending on the meaning of the word "right" in a given context, it's not a right. It's a privilege. A privilege I am personally 100% for and that should be granted, for sure, and most certainly a legal right, but it's still a privilege, not some kind of innate right that comes with the act of existing alone. This is mainly just seman… | /r/MensRights | 03/01/21 04:44 PM |
| 1 | I’m scared of womenThe "context" here is the system not punished this kind of behaviour and even encouraging it by allowing people to benefit from it. That's the real problem, not women themselves who are a byproduct of the situation since it's probably be the same with any group in other circumstances, and what makes the fact that some women aren't like that a detail. It's not about whether the person is like that or not; few people start dating someone that is abusive from the get-go. It's about whether the pers… | /r/MensRights | 03/01/21 03:51 PM |
| 2 | "Let’s Stop Cheapening Combat: Women Are Not the Primary Victims of War" - Response to Hilary Cliniton's (and general feminism's) WoMeNZ MoST AfFecTeD"It really shouldn't be a competition" Then ask a certain person not to use the word "primary" in the first place. And now you're implying that soldiers actually WANT war? Ok, how stupid can you be? This is absolute nonsense. Go die on a battlefield for a while and then we'll talk. You're downplaying the atrocity of war and making soldiers look like stupid warmongers to a ridiculous degree here, and wouldn't deserve a serious answer for this alone. Domestic terror is completely unrelated to the … | /r/MensRights | 03/01/21 06:30 AM |
| 2 | Gender roles do exist and Women control itYou're quite right. Problems happens when compromising is presented as a "bad" thing, or worse, as a "submissive" thing you should avoid. And it gets even worse when the message gets influenced by human selfishness. This being said, if you're a man and must work SO MUCH that you don't have the time to be a housekeeper, don't feel guilty. As long as you just don't have the time for it, it's not your fault. The best-case scenario would be 50/50. But it isn't always doable, and it doesn't mean that… | /r/MensRights | 03/01/21 02:03 AM |
| 14 | Male domestic violence victimsGood post. A big problem with today's society is that we are commonly confusing causes and symptoms. Even if they're not the same thing at all. As a result, we only punish SYMPTOMS, without addressing actual CAUSES, because that would mean admitting some things that we're not willing to admit. Which only makes the problems worse over time. People like us, old enough to post in this environment are a thing. But we have to think of the young ones that are growing up in a society influenced by this… | /r/MensRights | 03/01/21 01:28 AM |
| 1 | Hey! Ex-feminist here with a question.Hidden among everyone just in it for their own best interest. It's one thing I find particularly suspicious in the last generations; we supposedly became SO MUCH MORE TOLERANT as a whole (which would be an extremely good thing, mind you).. but it doesn't translate that much into the real world. The easy answer is that we're more "tolerant"... but mostly when it benefits us. Why is it your first time? Because most people defending feminism are doing it because "it's for equal rights" or because t… | /r/MensRights | 03/01/21 12:57 AM |
| 1 | Hey! Ex-feminist here with a question.the basic response is because of the fact that some ideas (toxic masculinity, patriarchy theory, the framework of "oppressor" and "oppressed", the idea that men are more likely to be culprits, them influencing what "rape" is, etc) are pretty much mainstays when it comes to feminism, although there are some good apples here and there, but then they just don't get feminist theory (the duluth model which is feminist-inspired isn't exactly gender-neutral or ideology-free). Because of their fight aga… | /r/MensRights | 03/01/21 12:46 AM |
| 27 | I’m scared of womenNot the problem. The fact that society is actually supporting the BAD ONES and that people aren't mind-readers is. I can't count the number of abusive friends that looked like perfectly equal-minded people... until something made them go the other way around and they started to follow the SJW train with all of its hypocrisy, all for their own confort, that I know. As far as I know, rape is punished by law. That's what normal people call a deterrent against bad behaviour, because people are less … | /r/MensRights | 03/01/21 12:16 AM |
| 1 | Most participants thought the term toxic masculinity insulting, probably harmful to boys, and unlikely to help men's behaviour. Most participants said they would be unhappy if their masculinity or femininity were blamed for their work or relationship problems.The problem is blaming "society" for it. Gender roles are an huge ghost used as a scapegoat that even the ones constantly crying about them are hypocritical about. The problem isn't that men aren't allowed to show emotions. It's that men are LESS VALUED. Which did lead into them crying less over time. Most men were ultimately ok showing their emotions or with other men doing it until some point in their life when it backfired on them, and most of the time not because on gender roles; that most p… | /r/MensRights | 02/01/21 09:57 PM |
| 1 | Do you guys and gals support men wearing skirts, dresses and other normally feminine clothes.Way to prove you're yet unable to answer to a somewhat serious post. Get off, narcissistic troll. | /r/MensRights | 01/01/21 04:42 AM |
| 1 | Do you guys and gals support men wearing skirts, dresses and other normally feminine clothes.Which is exactly the same. You're stereotyping one way of dressing to one's sexual orientation. And let's not try to skim over your own wording when it comes to gay or trans. You said "are attempting to make [x] extinct". Which is the problematic part. Yeah, nope. I'm as accepting of women's clothing on men as one can be for personal reasons, and I got downvoted for answering to posts by saying that I should still have the right to JUDGE someone according to my own standards. Like it or not, the… | /r/MensRights | 01/01/21 04:31 AM |
| 1 | Do you guys and gals support men wearing skirts, dresses and other normally feminine clothes.And people here already made their view quite explicit to you. They should be able to, but there are more important things to take care of FIRST. A man with long hair will be called a metalhead even if it's not the case. So what. That's a discrimination people will deal with in time. People here overall agree with you, but just think it's a minor issue compared to other things that should be addressed first. Also why the hell would gay men be more into dresses than others. Nice job promoting ste… | /r/MensRights | 01/01/21 03:35 AM |
| 2 | Do you guys and gals support men wearing skirts, dresses and other normally feminine clothes.I don't give a damn, good for the person. I keep the right to call it ugly if this particular choice of dress don't look good on the person to me though, just like I would with a woman. I refuse to be forced to praise it because it's "progressive". If i don't think it's the kind that look good on you, I'll tell you. But anyway, but go for it, if it looks nice, I'll say it as well obviously. | /r/MensRights | 01/01/21 03:15 AM |
| 1 | Do you guys and gals support men wearing skirts, dresses and other normally feminine clothes.He doesn't ignore anything. He's saying that there are more important issues to focus on, since we're getting a ton of coverage on one guy doing it but the mainstream media still aren't up to date when it comes to the duluth model. You're just being ridiculously dishonest here. No, this isn't what a strawman is. Saying "they can do what they want, just don't make it the only subject existing about men in the medias" is everything but a strawman. It's just saying that you agree with it, but don't… | /r/MensRights | 01/01/21 03:03 AM |
| 1 | What ready opened up my eyes to the harms of feminism was when a feminist said that my brother killed himself because of his own toxic masculinity, 3 days after he died.He's a misogynist for saying that a word, which isn't the gospel by any mean, quite the oposite since the idea of TM is TM itself, that is more related to an ideology than women by itself is absolute crap. Yeah, sure. You're not helping your case here. How much more pitiful can you get? | /r/MensRights | 01/01/21 02:52 AM |
| 2 | What ready opened up my eyes to the harms of feminism was when a feminist said that my brother killed himself because of his own toxic masculinity, 3 days after he died.I disagree heavily. It's not "the trans movement" that became too radical. The lgbt community itself is now rotten. Minus maybe when it comes to gay men, because they often DON'T EVEN HAVE A RIGHT TO SPEAK ANYWAY since they're a part of the "oppressors" (so it solves the problem really quick, since they don't have a say in anything that another letter finds "problematic" thanks to their "privileges" anyway), is going down the drain. Bi are hated by a ton of it because "they just can't settle and… | /r/MensRights | 01/01/21 02:19 AM |
| 2 | "Women Needed a Magazine that Doesn’t Lie to Them. So I Started One" - Anti feminist magazine for women anti man bashing etc.Do you think there's any chance of them interviewing, say, karen straughan? It would probably be quite interesting. I heavily dislike tradcon stuff, but the initiative has to be applauded, if only for REAL "diversity". [edit: after having read some of it, I disagree with some things, like the article about john boyega. Still, a good initiative.] | /r/MensRights | 29/12/20 11:51 PM |
| 1 | "Feminist next door" with nearly 300K twitter followers -infecting the mind of hundreds of thousand impressionable young people no doubt with her bitter bile.Just don't let it go into repression by thinking that it's caused by whatever and not by yourself and it should be fine and you'll probably get the answers in time. I know the frustration about absolutely WANTING the logical explanation (as any aspie would probably understand). It's quite funny once you notice that for most people, the one they understand the least is probably themselves, since we tend to just "accept" anything that come from without ourselves without questioning it. | /r/MensRights | 29/12/20 11:35 PM |
| 1 | "Feminist next door" with nearly 300K twitter followers -infecting the mind of hundreds of thousand impressionable young people no doubt with her bitter bile.See my answer above. In my humble opinion you're talking about two different things; there just isn't a difference when it comes to words because we can't pry into people's head (not even the concerned person itself can) to see why the person is this way. Homosexuality probably is 100% genetic. I personally wouldn't question this. But is what WE call "homosexuality" always homosexuality? That's where the difficult part lies in my opinion. Sexuality clearly isn't immune to fads, as anyone who gre… | /r/MensRights | 29/12/20 11:26 PM |
| 1 | "Feminist next door" with nearly 300K twitter followers -infecting the mind of hundreds of thousand impressionable young people no doubt with her bitter bile.Kind of butting in, but maybe there's a difference to be made between homosexuality and, say, "closet heterosexuality" when it comes to societal influence? As in, one is homosexual (genetics) while the other one is straight/bi but society is making it deny this possibility. I've had some friends "turning gay" just because of a rejection so it being a factor for SOME, not all gay people, wouldn't surprise me. Then again I am, myself, a believer of the kinsey scale more than anything else when it … | /r/MensRights | 29/12/20 11:14 PM |
| 1 | "Feminist next door" with nearly 300K twitter followers -infecting the mind of hundreds of thousand impressionable young people no doubt with her bitter bile.Most men will respect you if you respect them. The problem being that this person probably thinks men should offer her kindness even if she's acting in an absolutely terrible way. Suddenly, not being nice to someone that is everything but nice to you itself becomes "being a domesticated pet". Don't be surprised if someone is not "so kind" anymore if you have been a terrible person towards this person for a while. This isn't called "wanting adoration". It's called "not wanting to be a doormat" an… | /r/MensRights | 29/12/20 10:57 PM |
| 3 | At least people on there are concerned about the poor guyNot necessarily. People often pretend to care when the issue stays "abstract" so to say and there's no one they know the name of that is involved. Now, put another sentence of said ex in the answers where she says, even without ANY proof of example or anything else, hell, even if it's completely incoherent, that he was the abusive one and it'll be another story altogether. Even if it's just one random line that make no sense at all. The big problem when it comes to people that are "neutral" is t… | /r/MensRights | 29/12/20 10:42 PM |
| 1 | No issue with feminism fighting for these stupid things, and no reason for it to look at mens issue.... the problem however, is the fake narrative they have created "WoMeNZ OpPreSSEd" and also redefining gender equality to mean women's issues, instead, of you know, gender equality.Not everyone is from the US. You started before us, you'll end up getting rid of it before us as well, particularly since my dear country is a breeding ground for SJW thanks to the fact t hat it wants to pretend to be "the country of human rights" to the point where it'll be a lot harder to get rid of it than in the US. But yeah, I've seen that in the US people are starting to take this crap seriously, a bit late but still, and that's great. Comparatively, I wouldn't say winning. Winning would b… | /r/MensRights | 29/12/20 10:20 PM |
| 1 | No issue with feminism fighting for these stupid things, and no reason for it to look at mens issue.... the problem however, is the fake narrative they have created "WoMeNZ OpPreSSEd" and also redefining gender equality to mean women's issues, instead, of you know, gender equality.My point is, don't act as if the problem was men "not creating MRA spaces", "didn't write to newspapers" or whatever else because that is "the answer". Because that much is already done and it's in expansion, more and more. Nope. My point isn't that men shouldn't do anything. It's that they already do; and thinking that the reason nothing is happening is because they don't is an overly simplistic reasoning that implies that doing this WILL change things. It doesn't mean that it SHOULDN'T be done… | /r/MensRights | 29/12/20 09:59 PM |
| 1 | No issue with feminism fighting for these stupid things, and no reason for it to look at mens issue.... the problem however, is the fake narrative they have created "WoMeNZ OpPreSSEd" and also redefining gender equality to mean women's issues, instead, of you know, gender equality.Yeah, ok, you didn't read anything I said then. Also, your point with feminism is more than moot, since it actually exploited the empathy gap and the women-are-wonderful effect to a ridiculous extend to create these things "not out of thin air". No such widespear biological bias exist in favor of men. Making it look like "it's not happening because men aren't doing it" with one example, who knows how long it'll last, sadly enough, just make you look stupid. You're making it look like politics an… | /r/MensRights | 29/12/20 09:18 PM |
| 6 | I feel like people hate me for being born male95 percent of the population isn't an MRA or a feminist. Just people living their lives and not getting swept up into the bull shit of gender politics. You do that too. This is the worst point you could have made. People "not being into gender politics" doesn't mean that they're not applying/using the benefits of gender politics, which is the core of the problem. The fact that the "moderates" often aren't that moderate. Why? Not because of gender politics but because of opportunism, plain and si… | /r/MensRights | 29/12/20 09:04 PM |
| 1 | No issue with feminism fighting for these stupid things, and no reason for it to look at mens issue.... the problem however, is the fake narrative they have created "WoMeNZ OpPreSSEd" and also redefining gender equality to mean women's issues, instead, of you know, gender equality.Then your definition is way, way too limited and doesn't take psychology or education among other things into account, which is what lead someone to accept oppressive behaviour. The point is that "recognizing" oppression (although "subtle" probably isn't the right word here, but the core point is indeed that the person doesn't notice it) isn't necessarily the best metric there is, just like how someone can be groomed into becoming a willful slave. Said authority can be asserted in a subtle way i… | /r/MensRights | 29/12/20 07:33 PM |
| 1 | No issue with feminism fighting for these stupid things, and no reason for it to look at mens issue.... the problem however, is the fake narrative they have created "WoMeNZ OpPreSSEd" and also redefining gender equality to mean women's issues, instead, of you know, gender equality.This is making it look like cancel culture and the likes doesn't exist, and like MRA and feminist have the same degree of influence politically. It's an overly simplistic solution that fails to address an huge part of the problem. As if MRA spaces hadn't been attempted yet, but "cancelled" thanks to our dear feminists that thought it was shifting the focus away from women (which matters a ton when one side has way more political and cultural influence than the other). All of this has already bee… | /r/MensRights | 29/12/20 07:22 PM |
| 1 | No issue with feminism fighting for these stupid things, and no reason for it to look at mens issue.... the problem however, is the fake narrative they have created "WoMeNZ OpPreSSEd" and also redefining gender equality to mean women's issues, instead, of you know, gender equality.Yes. Something being subtle doesn't mean it can't be discriminatory. Moreover, something is only noticed when it is thought of as discrimination. Even in countries where women are really oppressed, they don't see this as discrimination. They see it as "normal" because they grew up this way. The same thing apply here. For many, the inequality when it comes to reproductive rights for men isn't seen as discrimination against men. It's seen as "how it just is". | /r/MensRights | 29/12/20 07:15 PM |
| 2 | Is the phrase "toxic masculinity" sexist?Yeah, the "you" is about the "anti-toxic masculinity" side as a whole. They don't even notice that they are as myopic as the ones they're supposedly opposing. And in the end no one even cares about the "victims" at all. They're just "things" here to win points in order to rally more people to your cause by pretending to help them using [x] scapegoat, without really looking in-depth into the problem and that's it. People like to say that "being against TM is good because men should be able to exp… | /r/MensRights | 28/12/20 04:36 AM |
| 3 | Is the phrase "toxic masculinity" sexist?The problem is simple. The very fact that she uses the word "toxic masculinity" is a key indicator that she view issues first through a gender-critical lens. Rather than the thoughtful and mature way of viewing these so-called "toxic" behaviors as dependent on a specific individual's internal decisions, your girlfriend has instead decided that the main malefactors in the creation of these behaviors are external forces not in their control: their sex and society. This is a huge red flag. That's t… | /r/MensRights | 28/12/20 03:15 AM |
| 2 | The marriage rate is declining in America (Do you think a big reason has to do with the fact that a man usually has more to lose in a divorce than a woman does?)Well, I wanted to add my grain of salt about how focusing too much on the "moral high ground" meant poisoning the well for future generations and encouraging people to abuse said high ground in a way that grants them control, and I possibly went a bit overboard, so there's that. But yeah. Since a ton of people tend to assume that even something as simple and logical as what you said has to mean "BEAT UP ALL WOMEN!! WE LOVE VIOLENCE!!" as far as MRA are concerned... There's this tendency to belie… | /r/MensRights | 28/12/20 02:54 AM |
| 1 | Is the phrase "toxic masculinity" sexist?Again, the problem is that she's seeing gender roles as THE root and confusing it with the idea of discrimination. There doesn't need to be "roles" for one to be discriminated again (e.g. racism) and for said people to adapt their own behaviour in consequence. This is a very common interpretation of "toxic masculinity", and just another example of it being used as a scam to pretend that "we care about men and how it causes problems to them". If they really did, they would care about what is caus… | /r/MensRights | 28/12/20 02:36 AM |
| 8 | Woman complains about anti-male hate. Top comment: "Racism sucks"And then there's the "we just hate the patriarchy!". Yeah, your conspiracy theory that doesn't exist and that you can use any time you want to blame individual men if, say, you're fired because YOU are extremely lazy at work. It's your boss that is a sexist servant of the evil patriarchy! I've seen that too often to count. The patrairchy is just, like gender roles, another convenient ghost they use to say "yeah but it's not about men as a whole" while still using it any time it's required to mak… | /r/MensRights | 28/12/20 12:24 AM |
| 1 | Is the phrase "toxic masculinity" sexist?Not only that, but it's also toxic masculinity itself according to the definition they like to use when they try to look smart by using the "original meaning" ( = it's forced on men by others) see https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/kdys4v/students_hate_toxic_masculinity_but_cant_define/gg33st5/ https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/kdys4v/students_hate_toxic_masculinity_but_cant_define/gg315jc/ Even her "internalized gender norms" is nonsense. She's blaming gender roles and, in … | /r/MensRights | 27/12/20 11:50 PM |
| 2 | The marriage rate is declining in America (Do you think a big reason has to do with the fact that a man usually has more to lose in a divorce than a woman does?)Not really in this context. What u/TAPriceCTR said is that if a woman has the right to attack a guy just because, say, he acted mean, then the guy should have equal rights to give her the "left" as the woman is allowed to. Feminists and the likes don't like it? Sure. Most people saying this don't in the first place neither and don't want pointless violence. They just want the rules to be the same for everyone. If slapping or punching someone because he made fun of you or said something bad (e.g.… | /r/MensRights | 27/12/20 10:41 PM |
| 2 | "I can whatever I want and men shouldn't harass me" feminist had been pushing this narrative for decades and it never worked How will it take them to admit they are wrong ?Creeps are one thing. A coworker asking a man to look away because they're walking around half naked is another one. And I'd add another one, which is "making fun of the person", which, while bad as well, shouldn't be conflated with 100% sexist things since you also get made fun of if you're walking around in a way that looks "like a hobo" to some for some reason. Just to be clear, it doesn't make it right. But it also isn't specific, gendered or whatever else. It's idiots being idiots. The prob… | /r/MensRights | 27/12/20 02:07 AM |
| 32 | Men having close friendships with other men harms womenNaaaah, you're just "not opening up" because of toxic masculinity and gender roles, didn't you know?! It has nothing to do with it being the only rational choice available, that you're strongly forced to make anyway because of others being jerk towards you and it's tolerated and even encouraged. | /r/MensRights | 23/12/20 07:48 PM |
| 0 | Why do you think most school shooters are men?I'd say bullying without support structure or, also importantly, any kind of rationalization ("it's because I'm [x]") have a role as well, it probably makes it a lot more personal than it would otherwise. | /r/MensRights | 23/12/20 05:14 AM |
| 4 | Let's talk about how under law, men cannot be raped. It only counts as sexual assault.Not downvoting you because you're being honest and not aggressive, but it still sounds incredibly stupid. Although it probably has to do with what one considers sexual relationships to be before anything else. But I don't see any reason to consider female rape "better". Being forced to enter someone isn't any better than having someone else entering you, and pain isn't an unilateral thing. | /r/MensRights | 23/12/20 02:29 AM |
| 2 | Let's talk about how under law, men cannot be raped. It only counts as sexual assault.That's the biggest problem. The current definition is way too easy to abuse. Some states are downright sexist, but others are just "vague" enough for it to depend of how you'll be judged. Luckily, some states are more strict "ANY contact between the genitalia" and thus there isn't any doubt. But it should be the norm. Not some cases. | /r/MensRights | 23/12/20 02:22 AM |
| 3 | Let's talk about how under law, men cannot be raped. It only counts as sexual assault.Rape victims are victims. Whether they are male or female. The only problem is the fact that due process is thrown out the window with our current social media culture. which is problematic, because it also reduce the credibility of real victims because of things like "regret rape" or any other thing of the sort, and needless to say because it creates a stigma, both on individual people and on the male population as a whole, while people always find excuse for female rape. The problem is that we… | /r/MensRights | 23/12/20 12:39 AM |
| 2 | Let's talk about how under law, men cannot be raped. It only counts as sexual assault.It doesn't really answer my question, to be honest, given the "Sexual Intercourse: the term is defined to refer to the phrase’s “ordinary meaning.” Sexual intercourse occurs upon “any penetration, however slight,” and emission is not required." which is just the same problem, with a different wording; is it SUFFERING any penetration for the victim, or any penetration occuring? Also, since I only looked at the first three ones (not any more) for now: The offender engages in sexual penetration wit… | /r/MensRights | 22/12/20 11:32 PM |
| 4 | Let's talk about how under law, men cannot be raped. It only counts as sexual assault.That's not the problem here. the problem is, is it the act of being penetrated that is rape? That's the problem in most states, and in most countries (to the point where my country actually changed the law a few years ago to make men "rapeable", because it IS a problem and in most case being made to penetrate wasn't considered rape thanks to this ambiguity). That's also how some feminists with influence willingly twisted the idea of rape to make it impossible towards men. https://www.reddit.com/… | /r/MensRights | 22/12/20 11:10 PM |
| 8 | Let's talk about how under law, men cannot be raped. It only counts as sexual assault.Re-read your own post and remember how sex occurs between a man and a woman. That's the problem and how the law can easily be twisted. Also, is it me or does this law says a huge "screw huge" to marital rape? | /r/MensRights | 22/12/20 10:49 PM |
| 1 | Feminism as a conspiracy theory.It is. Mainly because some feminist positions and absolute postulates like the patriarchy theory that can't be questioned make them extremely incompatible. With a superficial level of both, it's possible, but again, good luck defending the duluth model from an MRA perspective, or without playing the "patriarchy" card and the double standards. When something is explicit about violence from men and for women being different "because patriarchy overtly encouraging men to beat women", it's kinda har… | /r/MensRights | 22/12/20 08:29 PM |
| 1 | Feminism as a conspiracy theory.Men would open up more if abusing of a man showing his vulnerabilities wasn't so widely accepted (and not because of gender roles, but because of good ol' human opportunism. Again, your ex using gender roles against you most certainly isn't doing it because of gender roles, that she may not have cared about the day before, but because it's USEFUL to her at the moment). Treating TM as some kind of absolute generated by "gender roles" is stupid. And once again, TM itself sums up male behaviour by … | /r/MensRights | 22/12/20 07:18 PM |
| 1 | Feminism as a conspiracy theory.Yes. Unknown because you can't seen what it looks like and how it exactly affects things, genius. You not being able to get the obvious isn't "moving the goalpost". It does, yes. And when it isn't, you need proofs that it exists and that it is the cause of the problem. And you liking the idea because it's simplistic enough for you to get it doesn't mean that it is the cause. Just like how all "racists" problems aren't caused by race alone, but by socio-economical parameters, even if the ones mos… | /r/MensRights | 22/12/20 07:18 PM |
| 1 | Feminism as a conspiracy theory.No. First, I'm a leftist myself. "The left advocate for equality of outcome"? Don't make me laugh. The left has been divided in two different parts for quite a while, with the more unsavory parts slowly devouring the "equality of opportunity" part using a pseudo-moral high ground as a misplaced excuse, which is actually a fairly big problem when you're universalist. It's annoying enough to see the left becoming a shadow of its former self to a point where islamists sending death threats and aggr… | /r/MensRights | 22/12/20 03:03 PM |
| 2 | Feminism as a conspiracy theory.Gender roles ARE an invisible forces you can put anything behind. That's the point. Just like the patriarchy. It's a ghost moving a chair you can't see, you can only see the results and assume that "it was caused by said ghost", despite the fact that there is a fairly high chance for it to be the opposite of the truth. It can totally be both at the same times. Also, gender expectations != discrimination. The two have nothing to do with each other, and blaming everything on gender roles is just l… | /r/MensRights | 22/12/20 02:31 PM |
| 2 | Feminism as a conspiracy theory.The idea of inequality by itself, that doesn't mean anything when the actual problem is that you're equal, but different and forcing a comparison is nonsensical. And by forcing an artificial equality without taking the specificities of the situation and the details into account, you're actually CREATING inequality. And then there's feminist theory which is a load of crap by itself. ...you just explained why I said oppressed, yes. Congrats. DV not existing to a level close of the levels it harmed… | /r/MensRights | 22/12/20 01:30 PM |
| 8 | r/MensLib is the Uncle Tom of the Men’s Rights MovementThis logic sounds nice and all, in another context I might agree with it, but it doesn't work if one side tries to downplay the actions of a part of the problem. Opinions of feminism do matter, at least as long as it is about institutional feminism, which is the main problem and the one having a negative influence. Denying the existence of the very problems caused by it means that you're a willing smokescreen for it. What you say would be somewhat acceptable if criticizing feminism, like literal… | /r/MensRights | 22/12/20 01:05 PM |
| 3 | Feminism as a conspiracy theory." The discussion around the patriarchy is about gender, not class. And some ideas in feminism are actually good for men. Toxic masculinity doesn't mean masculinity is bad. It means that there are gender expectations on men which are toxic and make men harm themselves and harm others around them. Everytime, I mentioned that I'm unhappy with having been circumcised, I was mocked for displaying emotion and even mocked for complaining that my body was violated. This comes from what people expect fro… | /r/MensRights | 22/12/20 12:58 PM |
| 2 | Feminism as a conspiracy theory."EDIT : "that 1 feminist said" or "this 1 feminist leader said" are irrelevant. Feminism is an ideology so it has no leaders and it has many different groups which disagree among each other. They don't even agree on what women means." Yeah. Except that when the ideology itself is the problem, your point makes no sense at all anymore. It's an ideology following a certain framework, that then split up when it comes to specific elements. The idea of women being oppressed and discriminated against i… | /r/MensRights | 22/12/20 12:35 PM |
| 6 | r/MensLib is the Uncle Tom of the Men’s Rights MovementWhat's amazing is that over time people quoted you countless examples of how feminism as an institution directly goes against men's rightsn and their policies being applied has a very direct result of men being screwed when it comes to a ton of things like DV thanks to things like the duluth model, and yet you still just sum up the problem as "blaming them". At this point you just read what you're choosing to read and skip everything else. | /r/MensRights | 22/12/20 12:23 PM |
| 5 | The term "toxic masculinity" is hateful. people never use it to help men but always to demonize and degrade men and boys. stop making excuses about the use of it.To copy-paste a message I posted on another sub where someone was talking about toxic masculinity and then add a little bit to it: [quote] "TM" is, hilariously enough, TM itself, using their own definition. Funnily enough when they're trapped into a corner they'll say that TM isn't about the man, but about the other people pushing expectations on him (more often than not gender roles aren't what push people to have these ""expectations"" anyway, it's simply sexism or other people being opportuni… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 21/12/20 10:04 PM |
| 1 | Has anyone here had experiences with a feminist as a significant other?With a few that weren't at first, but became one over the years. And right now since they don't have any success anymore they went full force into the victimhood culture and how men are terrible for anything. Despite one of them being "nice enough" to literally throw to my face that I was worth less than a dog when I complained about her constant silent treatment whenever things didn't go her way, or another one that told me during my depressed and suicidal days that if I shoot myself I should b… | /r/MensRights | 21/12/20 02:50 PM |
| 5 | As an autistic man, the systemic gender discrimination against men is especially visible and disturbing, and i'll tell you why.Fellow aspie here. This is just this stupid debate about their so-called "toxic masculinity" all over again. And it's particularly hilarious to notice this scam when you're the one always assumed to be "lacking empathy" just because of things like weird body language and a weird form of expression, because you need to learn how others communicate, etc. When THIS kind of ideology is what strikes me as lacking empathy instead. Basically, TM assumes that men only have problems because they are acti… | /r/MensRights | 21/12/20 02:05 PM |
| 2 | I don't understand why MRA are a thing, I mean, feminism does fight for a lot of male issues, aswell.Male victims by default are dismissed And that's when they're not made the culprit instead. Good stuff. | /r/MensRights | 20/12/20 12:44 AM |
| 2 | I don't understand why MRA are a thing, I mean, feminism does fight for a lot of male issues, aswell.Something women overwhelmingly face? As in, considerably more than others? Okay, then you have no idea of what you're talking about. Ever heard about Erin Pizzey? | /r/MensRights | 20/12/20 12:43 AM |
| 2 | I don't understand why MRA are a thing, I mean, feminism does fight for a lot of male issues, aswell.Yes, yes it is. The duluth model is based on feminist theory, which is the basis of all this crap, of the patriarchy you love so much, of the "toxic masculinity" you love so much, etc. It's easy to say "I support x". Particularly when it has the beneficial side effect of muting MRA since "they don't have any reason to exist". But when you shift the definition of equality whenever it becomes about female privileges and it's about actions, not just words anymore, or when your actions don't follow … | /r/MensRights | 20/12/20 12:16 AM |
| 2 | Are 1 in 5 women actually raped?It isn't any more true. something cannot be "a bit true". It's false, period. You did, I'm not talking about your numbers. I'm talking about you bringing up that subject and using it to deny the existence of victims. Well, people do when the topic is false accusations and when they defend due process. But it isn't the subject here, and there is no reason to go as far as denying the existence of real victims. Saying that there is less real victims than the ones pretending to have been assaulted o… | /r/MensRights | 19/12/20 07:58 PM |
| 2 | I don't understand why MRA are a thing, I mean, feminism does fight for a lot of male issues, aswell.That's the thing, domestic violence against men isn't because of feminists. Say what? You apparently don't know anything about the duluth model, which is based on feminist theory. What do you think happen when you give women that could be abusive the possibility of having a "get out of jail for free" card by minimizing things like false accusations, by pushing for a "believe all female victims" agenda or by, as a whole, downplaying the existence and prevalence of male DV? You get women that coul… | /r/MensRights | 19/12/20 07:50 PM |
| 5 | Are 1 in 5 women actually raped?That's a stupid argument. Never means never. You saying that "no woman has ever been sexually assaulted" isn't any smarter than feminists saying that all women are going to be sexually assaulted at some point in their life by twisting the meaning of the words. You're pulling the "no adult willing to try and defend the idea that 2 'erased victims' are more harmful than 200 false accusation" out of your ass and this isn't what anyone is talking about. | /r/MensRights | 19/12/20 07:40 PM |
| 17 | Feminism is a major impediment to egalitarianism by trying to hijack all issues e.g. racial justice and turning it about feminism (post by selfdisciplinedlife). Toxic feminism #4 - hegemonic feminism.It's not specific to radfems, and yes, they have a ridiculous amount of power, particularly when it comes to education. Also, when it comes to black rights movements, it's everything but surprising. The two movement use the same scapegoat. So it's not like there'll be an opposition coming from nut ones in the BRM, they will embrace it. Feminism just plays the card of "yeah, we know you're oppressed, but look, we're oppressed as well so we're not responsible for the situation at all, it's our own… | /r/MensRights | 19/12/20 07:18 PM |
| 1 | Paris city hall fined for putting too many women in senior roles (69%)Subreddit? I think it'd be quite unlikely. I've seen anti-feminists (both real ones and the ones hating the CURRENT feminism but idolizing whichever one they have in mind though) on various places, and there are many, many comments on said french mgtow channel on youtube that would clearly fit in the good side of the "manosphere", but most french subreddits themselves that I see HEAVILY lean on the feminist side (at best they'll criticize the nutjobs while still saying that they're oppressed by … | /r/MensRights | 18/12/20 01:33 AM |
| 1 | Paris city hall fined for putting too many women in senior roles (69%)I know, I'm from france as well. They're basically living in an illusion on equality until the day something happen to them because of the inequalities... And even then they usually just blame it on "it just being an individual situation" "the cop that arrested me instead of my abusive girlfriend must just be an idiot" or whatever else, even if, to use every SJW's favorite buzzword, there IS a systemic problem and the laws are unfair or whatever. | /r/MensRights | 18/12/20 01:17 AM |
| 1 | Paris city hall fined for putting too many women in senior roles (69%)The problem is that there is a parity law in place, which is used and abused by the same "feminists" whenever it's useful to them. Get rid of the law, review everyone fairly and based on merit, and everything is fine. | /r/MensRights | 18/12/20 01:14 AM |
| 1 | Paris city hall fined for putting too many women in senior roles (69%)Quotas are stupid. But this isn't an argument here, since you potentially have some even better workers in the group that was ostracized (men). Even if these were "good candidates", the moment you accept someone on something else than merit, you're losing access to the "but maybe they're competent!" card. And this is specifically in order to advantage women, according to hidalgo herself. | /r/MensRights | 18/12/20 01:12 AM |
| 1 | Paris city hall fined for putting too many women in senior roles (69%)No, it isn't, as long as they were hired using quotas. Also, there's a law for parity. Either you respect it on both sides, or you get rid of it, but you don't use it as an excuse and then get rid of it whenever it becomes problematic to you. A real meritocracy would be better than this crap, but if that's what we're stuck with, then it must work both ways. A ton of men that were better qualified would probably have done a "good job" as well. You can't pursue better qualified people as long as q… | /r/MensRights | 18/12/20 01:08 AM |
| 1 | Paris city hall fined for putting too many women in senior roles (69%)France never was about "equality". "Equality" is the problem that makes us accept nonsense, hoping we'll be "the good people" and have the moral high ground, thank to french arrogance when it comes to "human rights" being abused constantly. Equality hasn't been a thing in france for a fairly long time. And while france pretends to fight against inequality, it's usually using a flawed framework imported from the US that doesn't work here, while having a pseudo-hero complex where you'll let 5 peop… | /r/MensRights | 18/12/20 01:02 AM |
| 1 | Paris city hall fined for putting too many women in senior roles (69%)To be honest, most men don't even know about it. Like how (for once) we did something good and made rape laws more gender-neutral 2 or 3 years ago, I think (which still doesn't help at all since the legal bias is still here, but it's a start I guess). Men just didn't even know that according to the law they couldn't be raped, period. | /r/MensRights | 18/12/20 12:59 AM |
| 2 | Paris city hall fined for putting too many women in senior roles (69%)Easy answer: men don't know about it. Period. Just like my own mother just recently learned that circumcision isn't illegal if it's made in the name of a religion. In most situations, men just aren't aware of it at all, and if you tell them, even using proofs, that things like paternity test being forbidden are a thing, they just don't believe you because... because. | /r/MensRights | 18/12/20 12:57 AM |
| 1 | Paris city hall fined for putting too many women in senior roles (69%)While big cities like paris are the worse when it comes to feminism and sjw indoctrination, let's not pretend that the disease isn't spreading outside in the suburbs as well. | /r/MensRights | 18/12/20 12:53 AM |
| 1 | Paris city hall fined for putting too many women in senior roles (69%)They do. But france have a pretty big problem when it comes to its arrogance and when it comes to the fact that they're "the country of human rights" (which isn't even true in the way they mean it in the first place, but whatever) so thanks to this arrogance and this idea that "we will help everyone" and "we are the most moral country ever", it is a dangerous breeding ground for toxic feminism and SJW, even openly in politics sometimes. This arrogance and pseudo-morality is extremely easy to abu… | /r/MensRights | 18/12/20 12:52 AM |
| 1 | Female supremacy: Paris mayor mocks 'absurd' fine for hiring too many womenFun fact: she openly said that she disliked alice coffin's (the " the lesbian genius" woman) ideas. I quote, "[Alice Coffin] uses her freedom of speech and it's respectable, but I absolutely don't share this kind of observation. I'm a feminist, but I'm for universalism and I have been fighting my whole life for equal rights. Not for a supremacy, including of women on men". Look at what I say, don't look at what I do... Meanwhile radfems are crying in the comments of various french news website b… | /r/MensRights | 18/12/20 12:23 AM |
| 2 | Feminist narcissism and hypocrisy trying to make any criticism of women in power sexism.... no snowflake/narcissist, we will comment, criticise, mock, satirise female politicians as we do male ones.... lol mocking the first lady of the USA now is punching down? Feminist's true colours exposedYou really don't read anything I write, do you? Yes, systems with a common basis can diverge a lot. But the basis stays the same. If you can't see the common points between libertarians and social liberals despite the heavy variations, that's your problem. Someone deeply against individual freedom would have a problem with both, despite SL not conceptualizing it in the same way as libertarians. Ho the irony. Now you're just making look like I'm saying that all feminism is the same. I'm out, this… | /r/MensRights | 17/12/20 11:52 PM |
| 3 | Feminist narcissism and hypocrisy trying to make any criticism of women in power sexism.... no snowflake/narcissist, we will comment, criticise, mock, satirise female politicians as we do male ones.... lol mocking the first lady of the USA now is punching down? Feminist's true colours exposedNonsense. People aren't able to do this "because some people are really racists". Feminism is a great example. There is no "patriarchy" systematically oppressing women, and yet it doesn't stop people from using this as an argument to justify their own failures on it. They're neither the majority nor the loudest. The loudest would be the mainstream media, that actively encourage this fraud. So here you go, you have your "loudest ones"; the ones defending people's failure using diversity points. N… | /r/MensRights | 17/12/20 11:43 PM |
| 2 | Feminist narcissism and hypocrisy trying to make any criticism of women in power sexism.... no snowflake/narcissist, we will comment, criticise, mock, satirise female politicians as we do male ones.... lol mocking the first lady of the USA now is punching down? Feminist's true colours exposedAnd "luckily" enough, wow, guess what, I cited them separately specifically for this reason. One is used as a part of the other (and I'm talking about the patriarchy THEORY, not the very idea of a patriarcal system which is something else entirely and can imply different rules). My point being that some things are a common ground even in the countless variations of feminism that you'll find. Here you go, putting words in people's mouths because you have no other option. Having a common ground is… | /r/MensRights | 17/12/20 11:31 PM |
| 3 | Feminist narcissism and hypocrisy trying to make any criticism of women in power sexism.... no snowflake/narcissist, we will comment, criticise, mock, satirise female politicians as we do male ones.... lol mocking the first lady of the USA now is punching down? Feminist's true colours exposedYes. I'm assuming that. You know why? Because it's the subject. how everyone who says anything about her past political decisions are just women haters, wait for it. Specifically, it being used this way. I'm not using imaginary oppressions and sexism comments to find excuses, since it's not what this is about in the first place. Yeah, no. The level-headed criticism is the majority. People are bothered by the fact that she's a woman BECAUSE it will be used this way, and it's hardly the first time… | /r/MensRights | 17/12/20 11:23 PM |
| 2 | Feminist narcissism and hypocrisy trying to make any criticism of women in power sexism.... no snowflake/narcissist, we will comment, criticise, mock, satirise female politicians as we do male ones.... lol mocking the first lady of the USA now is punching down? Feminist's true colours exposedNo, there are multiple feminisms, yes. But they share the same core, feminist theory, patriarchy theory, etc. The variations exist outside of this fgramework, but the core is still the same. Saying that "there are multiple feminisms therefore some are", say, "nicer to men" is nonsense when the problematic part is what is shared between the multiple variations, the rest is window-dressing that only matter to them. Nope. Not all feminists are the same. But yet again, FT is one thing that they have… | /r/MensRights | 17/12/20 11:10 PM |
| 3 | Feminist narcissism and hypocrisy trying to make any criticism of women in power sexism.... no snowflake/narcissist, we will comment, criticise, mock, satirise female politicians as we do male ones.... lol mocking the first lady of the USA now is punching down? Feminist's true colours exposedSomething YOU haven't seen yet. Yeah, ok, you really DO lack reading comprehension, now that much is certain. I am sorry but no it doesn't. We are going to see 4 years of articles from CNN, MSNBC etc about Kamala Harris and how everyone who says anything about her past political decisions are just women haters, wait for it. Where the hell is this talking about criticizing her for her gender? It's fairly clear that he was talking about using her gender to shield her from her failures. We're talki… | /r/MensRights | 17/12/20 11:05 PM |
| 3 | Feminist narcissism and hypocrisy trying to make any criticism of women in power sexism.... no snowflake/narcissist, we will comment, criticise, mock, satirise female politicians as we do male ones.... lol mocking the first lady of the USA now is punching down? Feminist's true colours exposedI'm saying the same thing since the very beginning. It's your own problem if you lack reading comprehension and are now (badly) trying to play semantics to save face. They are exactly the same. Not to mention that again your first point was made to differentiate feminism from these "evil feminists", which makes no sense at all as I already proved. Keep being indoctrinated. But avoid trying to talk about things you know nothing about to prove that "muh, not all feminists, you just juge them in th… | /r/MensRights | 17/12/20 10:54 PM |
| 1 | Feminist narcissism and hypocrisy trying to make any criticism of women in power sexism.... no snowflake/narcissist, we will comment, criticise, mock, satirise female politicians as we do male ones.... lol mocking the first lady of the USA now is punching down? Feminist's true colours exposedNoticed how I said that it's politics 101, genius? The difference being that when you defend someone from "racism" most people, being against racism, will take the side of the victim. That's the problem. Appealing to a pseudo-moral high ground to deny any criticism because the other person is a damn fascist. While it has always been something common in politics, it became particularly problematic nowadays thanks to cancel culture, diversity point and a permanent victimhood rhetoric. Saying that … | /r/MensRights | 17/12/20 10:50 PM |
| 6 | Feminist narcissism and hypocrisy trying to make any criticism of women in power sexism.... no snowflake/narcissist, we will comment, criticise, mock, satirise female politicians as we do male ones.... lol mocking the first lady of the USA now is punching down? Feminist's true colours exposedFeminist theory isn’t the same as feminist ideology. Which is exactly what I proved wrong. Reread your own messages before crying "muh, you treat everything with "feminist" in it as if it was the same and as if it was the same as your "evil feminists"". No, they are the same. That's it. Feminism isn't a dictionary definition. And a dictionary definition that is so limited doesn't say anything worthwhile about the true context of the movement. Following this logic, nazis are just "national social… | /r/MensRights | 17/12/20 10:39 PM |
| 1 | Feminist narcissism and hypocrisy trying to make any criticism of women in power sexism.... no snowflake/narcissist, we will comment, criticise, mock, satirise female politicians as we do male ones.... lol mocking the first lady of the USA now is punching down? Feminist's true colours exposedThat's not the problem . We're talking about a politician actively giving dangerous "advices" that go against the country's safety to people here. The same politician that also did exactly what ithriveintoxicity is talking about, and downplayed entire districts putting everyone at risks through stupid and antisocial behaviour during the pandemic because "people are just saying that they don't respect the rules because they're racists". People like that have ACTUAL POWER. And they're free to abus… | /r/MensRights | 17/12/20 10:35 PM |
| 5 | Feminist narcissism and hypocrisy trying to make any criticism of women in power sexism.... no snowflake/narcissist, we will comment, criticise, mock, satirise female politicians as we do male ones.... lol mocking the first lady of the USA now is punching down? Feminist's true colours exposedNo contradiction here, if you're not able to understand that or still somehow think that feminist theory isn't just an expansion of feminism in theoretical fields, it's your own problem. Feminism has always been more complicated than "just equality" and always worked under some postulates. Even the first wave. | /r/MensRights | 17/12/20 10:00 PM |
| 5 | Feminist narcissism and hypocrisy trying to make any criticism of women in power sexism.... no snowflake/narcissist, we will comment, criticise, mock, satirise female politicians as we do male ones.... lol mocking the first lady of the USA now is punching down? Feminist's true colours exposedDoesn't matter. My country recently had a similar case with a self-professed liar that admitted that she WILL lie to "protect the president" even to the detriment of everyone else and that was incompetent and even downright dangerous all around during the covid pandemic, "yeah but people criticizing her are just racist and misogynists that don't accept women in politics, because she's an example of a black woman succeeding in politics". No, what he's saying isn't "what fosters this approach", it… | /r/MensRights | 17/12/20 09:15 PM |
| 4 | Feminist narcissism and hypocrisy trying to make any criticism of women in power sexism.... no snowflake/narcissist, we will comment, criticise, mock, satirise female politicians as we do male ones.... lol mocking the first lady of the USA now is punching down? Feminist's true colours exposedFeminist theory, which emerged from feminist movements, aims to understand the nature of gender inequality by examining women's social roles and lived experience; it has developed theories in a variety of disciplines in order to respond to issues concerning gender. Feminist theory is the extension of feminism into theoretical or philosophical fields. It encompasses work in a variety of disciplines, including anthropology, sociology, economics, women's studies, literary criticism, art history, ps… | /r/MensRights | 17/12/20 09:06 PM |
| 1 | Google's homepage offers resources for "victims and survivors of domestic and sexual abuse". If you guessed that actually just means women, you win...Yeah, sure. No argument and the fact that you're a stupid sexist pig trying to put words in other people's mouth to defend female privilege has been exposed, and therefore you fall back on imaginary virgin-shaming. Keep going, show everyone just how pitiful you really are. | /r/MensRights | 17/12/20 08:29 PM |
| 1 | Men hitting womenWe're talking about the real world here. That's the problem. Most people agree about what should be going on in an utopia. But at one time or another some people will always cross the line. | /r/MensRights | 17/12/20 08:26 PM |
| 7 | Feminist narcissism and hypocrisy trying to make any criticism of women in power sexism.... no snowflake/narcissist, we will comment, criticise, mock, satirise female politicians as we do male ones.... lol mocking the first lady of the USA now is punching down? Feminist's true colours exposedYeah, no. Nothing problematic about "grouping people together" when said group share a core ideology based on a concrete thing. In this case, feminist theory, whether you like it or not. | /r/MensRights | 17/12/20 07:20 PM |
| 5 | Feminist narcissism and hypocrisy trying to make any criticism of women in power sexism.... no snowflake/narcissist, we will comment, criticise, mock, satirise female politicians as we do male ones.... lol mocking the first lady of the USA now is punching down? Feminist's true colours exposedJust the usual scam they ALWAYS use... | /r/MensRights | 17/12/20 07:18 PM |
| 3 | Just goes to show how wrong feminist conclusions are because they always start with a conclusion first e.g. a low resolution theory like patriarchy/ toxic masculinity & THEN look for evidence. Other famous examples are iPhone is misogyny/sexist, buildings being penis shaped due to toxic masculinity... Just look at spider-man origin story. The whole thing is about a man being broken by the loss of his uncle, and after a while deciding to change society for the better because of this (I don't really care about modern comics, I'm stuck in the gold era/silver era). | /r/MensRights | 16/12/20 11:56 PM |
| 2 | Students Hate Toxic Masculinity... But Can't Define What It Is (including gender studies major who says, yeah we talk about it all the time, "what is it?" Ermmm I dunno) 😂 😂 😂 This is feminism goal of course... to get people to subconsciously associate men with "bad" "toxic"Not only that, it's stupid and TM itself. See: https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/kdys4v/students_hate_toxic_masculinity_but_cant_define/gg315jc/ Male gender roles are a very convenient scapegoat when you want to ignore anything and everything, particularly sexism that isn't particularly gender roles-related, just opportunism-related, that makes a man himself. It's not about what "a man should be" no matter how much they want to parrot this. It's a coping mechanism that is used because… | /r/MensRights | 16/12/20 11:49 PM |
| 3 | Students Hate Toxic Masculinity... But Can't Define What It Is (including gender studies major who says, yeah we talk about it all the time, "what is it?" Ermmm I dunno) 😂 😂 😂 This is feminism goal of course... to get people to subconsciously associate men with "bad" "toxic"They probably would. Because things like anorexia aren't caused by "toxic femininity" or them competing too much with each others when it comes to this, it's caused by "society's evil standards when it comes to what is being good-looking". That's the hilarious (and hypocritical) part. The consequences of toxic gender roles when it comes to women aren't blamed on women at all in any way. So they probably wouldn't like you blaming the consequences of an "evil patriarcal society objectifying women"… | /r/MensRights | 16/12/20 11:36 PM |
| 4 | Students Hate Toxic Masculinity... But Can't Define What It Is (including gender studies major who says, yeah we talk about it all the time, "what is it?" Ermmm I dunno) 😂 😂 😂 This is feminism goal of course... to get people to subconsciously associate men with "bad" "toxic""TM" is, hilariously enough, TM itself, using their own definition (funnily enough when they're trapped into a corner they'll say that TM isn't about the man, but about the other people pushing expectations on him (more often than not gender roles aren't what push people to have these ""expectations"" anyway, it's simply sexism or being an opportunist, but whatever...)... but then immediately deny that women are absolutely guilty of this first and foremost and the men who want to be accepted by … | /r/MensRights | 16/12/20 11:25 PM |
| 1 | Google's homepage offers resources for "victims and survivors of domestic and sexual abuse". If you guessed that actually just means women, you win...As if it wasn't the case already, disproportionately so to begin with, so you're quite funny. When it comes to this, it's "what should be a general focus on men > NEUTRAL, it's about men AND women and nothing is said about men specifically and there is nothing about THEIR specific hardships, THEN there is a SPECIFIC focus on women that isn't gender-neutral and is about them." Cf homelessness. There isn't anything done when it comes to suicide prevention FOR MEN. There's a global reaction when it… | /r/MensRights | 16/12/20 10:42 PM |
| 13 | Feminists HATE it when we call them 'females' yet they keep using the words like 'Male ego', 'Male internalized gaze' for us. Hypocrites.Then you don't look hard enough. Although to be fair even non-feminists get "triggered" by this. But it's extremely common for them to complain because it's dehumanizing and it means that the person is an incel seeing women as objets. See what I said above. And you're putting it the other way around. If men see women as objects by calling them "female", it means that they see men as object by using "male" constantly. The problem being that feminists doing this is a lot more influential than men … | /r/MensRights | 12/12/20 12:43 PM |
| 1 | Heavily downvoted on Feminism subreddit just for saying women can rape men too. And then feminist say that they are empathetic towards male rapes too. Lmao bullshit. They fucking hate it when they realize they are not the only victims around.No. On what YOU perceive as "flawed victimhood". Which often has an huge bias involved. What. Your very link also says that female perpetrators are underreported. Way to shoot yourself in the foot here. Maybe because your post is minimizing something without even taking into account crap like the legal definition that will have an impact on the statistics? It KIND OF matters. How does toxic femininity relates to men's rights > because of a current societal trend placing the blame for EVERYTHING … | /r/MensRights | 12/12/20 12:32 PM |
| 1 | Google's homepage offers resources for "victims and survivors of domestic and sexual abuse". If you guessed that actually just means women, you win...Pure whataboutism. You're making it look like "less likely" means "almost non-existent", and as if DV was limited to killing. No, it's not a matter of money. Even when refuges for men are being created, feminism is actively acting against them. Yes, it is sexism, because you start from a wrong postulate in the first place. Needless to say, you are acting as if only one problem should be resolved at a time, which is nonsense anyway, particularly with today's feminism which is rotting thanks to in… | /r/MensRights | 11/12/20 07:55 PM |
| 1 | Google's homepage offers resources for "victims and survivors of domestic and sexual abuse". If you guessed that actually just means women, you win...Are you an idiot, or what? Re-read your own message. "when mild-to-moderate aggression is perpetrated (e.g., shoving, pushing, slapping), men and women tend to report similar rates of injury." You safety doesn't matter if the injury is just "moderate"? Good, I guess we shouldn't care about women that are being injured as long as they're not killed then! What a bunch of crybabies! Just because an injury isn't life-threatening, it doesn't mean that it is not serious. So no, you're saying a bunch o… | /r/MensRights | 11/12/20 07:07 PM |
| 1 | Google's homepage offers resources for "victims and survivors of domestic and sexual abuse". If you guessed that actually just means women, you win...Yeah, no wonder. RATES OF INJURY. Not RATES OF ASSAULT. When you attack someone stronger than you, and men are usually stronger than women, you tend to have more risks of being injured (even when you're the attacker, e.g. bidirectional violence)). But keep grasping at straws. So what, we're going to see DV as normal as long as the aggressor is weaker? Because if you really read it, then you saw the DV is 50/50, if not more common with women. No, apparently you didn't, or you just cherry-pick wha… | /r/MensRights | 11/12/20 03:23 PM |
| 1 | Man forced by his wife to sell his beloved PlayStation 5 after she found out that she was so dumb to think PS5 was an air purifier.Actually, the ps5 does look like some air purifiers (to a ridiculous point, see my post below). Which is quite ridiculous. But it doesn't make the comparison any better though, particularly if you don't know that when saying she isn't stupid. | /r/MensRights | 09/12/20 07:42 PM |
| 1 | Man forced by his wife to sell his beloved PlayStation 5 after she found out that she was so dumb to think PS5 was an air purifier.Confusing a gaming console and an air purifier still isn't particularly smart. Then again, with the PS5's design.... https://tnimage.s3.hicloud.net.tw/photos/2020/11/30/1606710707-5fc475b333f35.jpg Guessing which one is which isn't necessarily that easy. This being said, your comparison is still quite bad. The only reason she's not that stupid is because of the PS5's particularly weird look. Even a fairly old grandpa could probably guess that, say, a gamecube doesn't look like an air purifier, s… | /r/MensRights | 09/12/20 07:34 PM |
| 5 | Man forced by his wife to sell his beloved PlayStation 5 after she found out that she was so dumb to think PS5 was an air purifier.They can't afford a playstation so much that they are ok spending 600$ on an air purifier (probably less since the guy managed to get it with an heavy discount, which is why he bought it in the first place). No, you're the one projecting and not bothering reading even the damn title. If you can't afford a gaming console, you can't afford an air purifier neither. She just didn't like him spending money on himself, since when is an air purifier "essential expenses". The very fact that he had to li… | /r/MensRights | 09/12/20 07:13 PM |
| 3 | Man forced by his wife to sell his beloved PlayStation 5 after she found out that she was so dumb to think PS5 was an air purifier.If he had to lie to her in the first place, it's that there is some serious controlling crap going on. If you have to hide your expenses in the first place, there's a problem somewhere. Or maybe you find it normal for her to control how he spends his money? | /r/MensRights | 09/12/20 07:05 PM |
| 1 | "Men's rights are influenced by the way men are perceived by others." - A video on phrase "toxic masculinity."Yeah, no. TM is nothing but a convenient scapegoat used to hide sexism by blaming "gender roles". Which is why it isn't surprising to see the ones criticizing "toxic masculinity" the most applying it the most. Boys don't avoid crying because of gender roles. They do because everyone, including self-professed critics of TM, use it against them. This is confusing the reaction with the cause, and not adressing the real cause at all. Nothing else. The biggest supplier of toxic masculinity would be w… | /r/MensRights | 09/12/20 07:01 PM |
| 3 | Google's homepage offers resources for "victims and survivors of domestic and sexual abuse". If you guessed that actually just means women, you win...https://domesticviolenceresearch.org/domestic-violence-facts-and-statistics-at-a-glance/ Now shut up with your false equivalencies. | /r/MensRights | 09/12/20 06:51 PM |
| 1 | Google's homepage offers resources for "victims and survivors of domestic and sexual abuse". If you guessed that actually just means women, you win...There's a ton of ressources here, this one is just one with a few examples. That's the "top posts" usually talked about, and I find it puzzling that you never saw exemples of it, but whatever, at least you're aware that it exists now. Interesting read as well, although it's everything but exhaustive, I'm not bookmarking anything and everything. https://domesticviolenceresearch.org/domestic-violence-facts-and-statistics-at-a-glance/ https://wordpress.clarku.edu/dhines/files/2012/01/Douglas-Hines-… | /r/MensRights | 09/12/20 05:55 PM |
| 2 | Google's homepage offers resources for "victims and survivors of domestic and sexual abuse". If you guessed that actually just means women, you win...You'll have to explain the second part of your comment, because you seriously lost me here. Is it supposed to be "how the law is?" or something like that? Because if that's you're implying it's clearly false. As an example, men know quite well that they'll be judged more harshly if they hurt a woman (even in self-defense) than if they hurt another man. Men know that saying that "#menaretrash" is seen as fine, but #womenarebitches is clearly less well-received. Which is getting even more true bec… | /r/MensRights | 09/12/20 05:42 PM |
| 1 | Google's homepage offers resources for "victims and survivors of domestic and sexual abuse". If you guessed that actually just means women, you win...No. But given how you don't even seem to listen or check what others told you, I will not bother. At this point, you just don't want to see the double standards. Obligatory karen straughan, https://theindependentmanitaly.wordpress.com/2020/03/31/the-true-feminist-by-karen-straughan/ . | /r/MensRights | 09/12/20 05:27 PM |
| 3 | Google's homepage offers resources for "victims and survivors of domestic and sexual abuse". If you guessed that actually just means women, you win...Improvement that isn't limited to "if there is a problem it's just because you were talking to a shitty person". At all. "so many more got help", given the statistics, I highly doubt it. The most helpful ressources for men talking about DV are considered to be family and friends. Not the official ressources, that are supposed to be... official. And no, google is a part of the problem. Campanies should be held to the same standards when it comes to support towards both men and women. It's because… | /r/MensRights | 09/12/20 05:26 PM |
| 4 | Google's homepage offers resources for "victims and survivors of domestic and sexual abuse". If you guessed that actually just means women, you win...Yeah, because it's just "a few rotten apple" when the law itself and the model most often used to deal with DV is openly sexist and full of double standards. No, it's not "a few bad apples". Or you'll have to say that to the duluth model itself, since apparently, it is the bad apple (too bad it's a bad apple having an influence on most of the western world). | /r/MensRights | 09/12/20 05:17 PM |
| 1 | Google's homepage offers resources for "victims and survivors of domestic and sexual abuse". If you guessed that actually just means women, you win...If you kill everyone, there will be no hate anymore as well. You can hide a ton of things behind pretty words. What counts is the method used. And when you have things like double standards regarding DV while able blame-shifting anything the "oppressed" category does, you're not looking for equality. You're just defending SJW by assimilating them to people caring for real equality. Which is their motte and bailey, the oldest trick in the book. No, it's not attributed to women. It's attributed to… | /r/MensRights | 09/12/20 05:14 PM |
| 5 | WHAT KIND OF BULLSHIT IS THIS? SeriouslyPeople here are arguing for the right TO DEFEND THEMSELVES. Not "violence against women". I'm not even answering, now I'm sure of it, you're just a damn troll, and a dangerous one at that. Yeah, there are no battered men's shelters. Maybe because you can't even open one without getting death threats? No, sure, the fact that there is none means that there is no violence against men from women. Typical feminist argument, using the situation you create yourself as a pseudo-proof. Say the person par… | /r/MensRights | 09/12/20 05:00 PM |
| 3 | WHAT KIND OF BULLSHIT IS THIS? SeriouslyI'm not "angry", I'm sighing because I'm talking to an idiot that is literally victim-blaming and dare to talk about morality. And agressive, say the person talking about this place being morally bankrupt despite literally defending abusers under the pretense of "but they are weaker". Keep your projections and your dangerous beliefs to yourself, please. No, that's not how it works. You aren't "adding to the violence". You are stopping the other from hurting you more, which might require violence… | /r/MensRights | 09/12/20 04:47 PM |
| 3 | WHAT KIND OF BULLSHIT IS THIS? SeriouslyDoesn't matter. If a smaller guy attacks a bigger guy, should the bigger guy just accept to be hit "because the other one is weaker"? No. Being weaker doesn't give you a free pass when it comes to bad behaviour and when it comes to violence. Actions have consequences, if you don't want to get punched, don't punch the other person. Of course it doesn't imply killing the other person, but enough violence to remove the treat is fine assuming you can't avoid it. Defenseless? What a joke. The ATTACKE… | /r/MensRights | 09/12/20 02:18 PM |
| 4 | As a woman, an auntie, a daughter, a partner and a feminist, I find this sub refreshing and wonderful.Blaming "society" for it is a tad easy. The reason men often don't talk about things isn't because they "have to be tough". Men talk about their hardships with each others all the time. They just don't when it's not safe to do so. Gender roles have a pretty small part in this. The idea that man > culprit, woman > victim is way more important. What men "have to be" is only a small part of the problem. The problem is that we're working towards equality, but not in a symmetrical way, and even when … | /r/MensRights | 09/12/20 01:45 PM |
| 5 | Google's homepage offers resources for "victims and survivors of domestic and sexual abuse". If you guessed that actually just means women, you win...SJW aren't about real social justice. That's the whole point. How does male victims of abuse being ignored benefit men? SJW thrive under the narrative of a big, evil oppressor, and poor victims all of society must cater to, and the system being systematically discriminatory towards said chosen victims (not REAL victims, it's heavily communitarianism so it works using groups of oppressors and oppressed, no matter how it is in reality and how it can be much more complicated). That's why you cannot… | /r/MensRights | 09/12/20 12:58 PM |
| 2 | WHAT KIND OF BULLSHIT IS THIS? SeriouslyFeminists are usually the ones that are the most guilty of their so-called "toxic masculinity", hilariously enough. Which is probably why they twist its meaning so often (not that the original meaning is much better given how limited it is and how much it stops you from looking for the root of the problems). Saying that it's not about the man himself but about his surroundings making him feel like he must censor himself to be a "real man" has the VERY LITTLE side-effect of showing that they're T… | /r/MensRights | 09/12/20 01:12 AM |
| 13 | Google's homepage offers resources for "victims and survivors of domestic and sexual abuse". If you guessed that actually just means women, you win...Yeah, right, let's act as is EVERYONE was being helped or recognized. It's not like the narrative was that abused men more or less don't exist at all and if one call a hotline he's a batterer. No, I'm not cheering for companies doing this. Particularly since, because of their size, they could at least male it gender-neutral without any problem. Which is the logical thing to do, but hey, identity politics sell. What you're talking about isn't "helping everyone". It's "the statu quo is great and s… | /r/MensRights | 09/12/20 12:52 AM |
| 2 | Your opinion on the use of the term "toxic masculinity"First, even in its original meaning, it is misused. Feminists and other people loving this term only fall back on the technical definition once they're stuck, after using it thousands of times wrongly. Second, it doesn't exist. It's a convenient tool used to blame complex systems on a single thing: male gender roles. E.g. men don't talk about abuse because of misplaced pride, TOXIC MASCULINITY! Even if in the end even things like feminist DV hotlines automatically assume that if a man contact th… | /r/MensRights | 09/12/20 12:10 AM |
| 2 | Need data about violence against males in Frenchhttps://www.insee.fr/fr/statistiques/4277740?sommaire=4318291 ? Insee isn't exactly what I would believe the most though. But that's an official source. | /r/MensRights | 08/12/20 11:23 PM |
| 1 | Major NEW phenomena, idk what it means but i know that its relevant to 'the representation of men and boys in the media'Well, the article isn't exactly positive about it, so there's that. | /r/MensRights | 08/12/20 11:15 PM |
| 2 | WHAT KIND OF BULLSHIT IS THIS? SeriouslyWhich in turn is problematic because without a deterrent for their own bad actions (like, I don't know, the guy defending himself?) it encourages others that aren't beyond doing this themselves to do it; best case scenario, she gets what she wants and the guy just endures it, worst case scenario, he gets away and she got to control him. Neither situation punishes her for her own bad behaviour. There being no deterrent is the perfect way to encourage this kind of crap (and this is true for most b… | /r/MensRights | 08/12/20 11:10 PM |
| 11 | WHAT KIND OF BULLSHIT IS THIS? SeriouslyYeah, no. That's the kind of behaviour that makes it so that some people, some women in this case, keep doing it because they know that they won't be punished either way. Sure, the best option for a man is to walk away, but that's only because him even defending himself isn't authorized (and if someone really wants to hit you, she isn't going to let you just "walk away" like that, which forces you to endure the hits just because of what the person have between their legs). Summing it up as "walk… | /r/MensRights | 08/12/20 10:53 PM |
| 1 | Why Is Transgender Identity on the Rise Among Teens? Theories Suggest a "Social Contagion" - Psychology TodayI'm fine with people not going through HRT because they can't (no money, outside pressure, etc). SRS is also not a given at all in the trans community, if only for practical reasons. However, people not even interested even in just HRT (outside of practical reasons, which, again, can be understandable) and who just want to be able to police people about their pronouns every two days are another matter entirely. It's one thing to not want people to see you as an abomination that should die, it's … | /r/MensRights | 08/12/20 07:28 PM |
| 1 | Why Is Transgender Identity on the Rise Among Teens? Theories Suggest a "Social Contagion" - Psychology TodayTrans people aren't the problem. transtrenders are. Also, read the article, it's not just about "noticing what you are". Parents further reported being derogatorily called “breeders” by their children, or being routinely harassed by children who played “pronoun-police." The observation that they no longer recognized their child’s voice came up time and again in parental reports. In turn, the eerie similarity between the youth's discourse and trans-positive online content was repeatedly emphasize… | /r/MensRights | 08/12/20 07:20 PM |
| 9 | Why Is Transgender Identity on the Rise Among Teens? Theories Suggest a "Social Contagion" - Psychology TodayYes there is. Many people. Like it or not. Particularly with this "I'm trans but don't take hormones" crap and the likes that has been going on recently. You're clearly not up-to-date. Also, school != social networks which are the primary influence. | /r/MensRights | 08/12/20 02:43 PM |
| 1 | The male pill - why are we still waiting?It's definitely possible and side-effects can be minor. I have some hopes towards vasalgel because of this, it's not invasive like an hormonal treatment or anything else skewing with your T. The point isn't to do it "for a woman", as in, instead of her taking the pill. One of the big benefits is to avoid being baby-trapped, facing paternity fraud, and the likes, while still being able to have children. The pill absolutely destroyed the sexual marketplace in favor of women, giving them full contr… | /r/MensRights | 08/12/20 02:12 PM |
| 10 | Why Is Transgender Identity on the Rise Among Teens? Theories Suggest a "Social Contagion" - Psychology TodayWhat I wonder is how there people would react if you made them forcibly antisocial for good while. Like, alone on an island or something similar. If to you your gender identity is only defined by the ""social"" and the community aspect of it and not by yourself, it would mess things up quite a bit. | /r/MensRights | 08/12/20 02:05 PM |
| 27 | Why Is Transgender Identity on the Rise Among Teens? Theories Suggest a "Social Contagion" - Psychology TodaySo in short, transtrenders are a thing, what a surprise. The plot thickens again: First, many of the youth in the survey had been directly exposed to one or more peers who had recently "come out" as trans. Next, 63.5 percent of the parents reported that in the time just before announcing they were trans, their child had exhibited a marked increase in Internet and social media consumption. Following popular YouTubers who discussed their transition thus emerged as a common factor in many of the ca… | /r/MensRights | 08/12/20 02:01 PM |
| 1 | The male pill - why are we still waiting?That's why people want a male pill that is 100% reversible and without serious ide-effects (if we go by the usual T-blockers, you'll have unwanted changes long before you'll have the time to break up and think about how you're castrated. "Funnily enough", it looks like T isn't the root of all toxicity and lacking it is an health problem for men. What a revelation!). That's the very point. Even if right now some AA don't seem to lead to permanent sterility, there are still too many feminizing or … | /r/MensRights | 08/12/20 01:42 PM |
| 1 | The male pill - why are we still waiting?Sperm eventually gets reabsorbed by the body. The problem with a long-term treatment like this is that long-term hormonal treatment have severe side-effects. Some things like AD can have the same effects without directly being "hormonal treatments", but that's not things you want to take long-term neither. | /r/MensRights | 08/12/20 01:36 PM |
| 2 | The male pill - why are we still waiting?Thanks, that was the one I remembered but I didn't look for it for a while. It indeed does look safer compared to an hormonal treatment that nukes your T levels. | /r/MensRights | 08/12/20 01:34 PM |
| 1 | The male pill - why are we still waiting?https://www.biospace.com/article/interview-first-of-its-kind-male-contraceptive-gel-in-phase-2b-clinical-trial/ Should be this. https://www.sacbee.com/news/local/health-and-medicine/article243718292.html Still the same problem though. Reducing T production itself is bound to have side-effects (ask anyone that actually took anti-androgens). Which will probably only be measured in phase 3. | /r/MensRights | 08/12/20 01:31 PM |
| 2 | The male pill - why are we still waiting?I've seen that and the opposite when it comes to, say, cypro. At first we thought that the change is supposed to be irreversible sometimes if the sperm production stopped for too long, because of what was basically a gonads atrophy, but now we're heading towards the opposite, not that irreversible and it just takes time. It's something we really don't know much about, and the sad/"funny" part is that we probably know about it more because of trans treatment than because of research on the male p… | /r/MensRights | 08/12/20 01:25 PM |
| 2 | The male pill - why are we still waiting?IIRC, said "male pill" was probably just T-blocker, which does result in more suicides and depending of what you're taking (androcur being the most common one) results in screwing with your B12 and making your chances of depression and suicide way higher, a ton of mtf people can't take it as a result. That's not what one is supposed to take as a "pill" and not even comparable to the pill in how it works in the first place anyway. It would be a very bad idea to take this as a "male pill". The "mo… | /r/MensRights | 08/12/20 01:13 PM |
| 1 | So, I'm confused about the notion of " men can't be raped "Yeah, so much that they're against rewriting the very law they had an heavy influence on which removes men from the definition. inB4 "but that's not real feminism", like every idiot being an egalitarianist and confusing it with feminism. Also, "feminists" caring about rape on men are exactly the same as "feminists" caring about DV against men. Supporting it as long as it is an somewhat abstract topic to look good and fair, but any time it comes to a situation where a woman is actually accused an… | /r/MensRights | 08/12/20 12:48 PM |
| 1 | Like slut shaming, period shaming, childcare shaming, childbirth/breastfeed decision shaming.... child free shaming is also done mainly by women to women.... yet feminist (not women who know the truth) due to ideology blame men for this? Da F**K?A better way to compare it would be while comparing things people WOULD NOT benefit for themselves. It makes quite a big difference. To the point where it resulted in intersectionality in things like feminism, because "white feminism" "doesn't care" about black women, etc. I'm not sure you can talk about solidarity if it's something you can potentially benefit from yourself. But when you look at feminism and how much it got divided because of a "lack of solidarity and catering towards specific n… | /r/MensRights | 08/12/20 09:01 AM |
| 1 | Like slut shaming, period shaming, childcare shaming, childbirth/breastfeed decision shaming.... child free shaming is also done mainly by women to women.... yet feminist (not women who know the truth) due to ideology blame men for this? Da F**K?A better way to put it would probably but "don't trust each other" or something like that, which is different from hate. And is mainly a byproduct of women being less idealized by other women than by men. Hate implies things that aren't exactly relevant in this context, even if it's funny as a shorthand. | /r/MensRights | 08/12/20 08:55 AM |
| 2 | Like slut shaming, period shaming, childcare shaming, childbirth/breastfeed decision shaming.... child free shaming is also done mainly by women to women.... yet feminist (not women who know the truth) due to ideology blame men for this? Da F**K?Yeah, right. Maybe you don't see enough women then, or you're too stuck into your comfort zone. The worst thing most men will give you is a "metalhead" comment. When it comes to women, group shaming and behind-the-back attacks for these things aren't unusual. Then again if you're not even able to notice when someone make fun of you... | /r/MensRights | 08/12/20 08:51 AM |
| 2 | Why are feminists so much focused on blaming the society and everyone rather than fixing themselves?And more importantly, they are actually listened to, men aren't. If women weren't cared for they still wouldn't have the right to vote. Yet they pretend that they're "oppressed" and people don't listen to them. Despite feminism probably being one of the most influential organizations in the western world. When it comes to men, they're so listened to that in most countries they still can't be raped. Yeah, sure. Women, or rather, in this context, feminists, are listened to to the point where some … | /r/MensRights | 08/12/20 08:46 AM |
| 3 | Why are feminists so much focused on blaming the society and everyone rather than fixing themselves?Feminism actually stops the second point from happening at a large scale. Which is the problem. When large-scale initiatives about male DV get cancelled because of feminism because it would "invisibilize women that are victims", you have a problem somewhere. Men's right can't exist next to our current feminism, which is why there is so much hate towards them. It's not just about there being no "grand narrative" about men's rights. It's that there cannot be one because it systemically has to beco… | /r/MensRights | 08/12/20 08:41 AM |
| 2 | Why are feminists so much focused on blaming the society and everyone rather than fixing themselves?I disagree about the premise somewhat . When society has to be blamed for something, like obvious inequalities, it's fair to do it. The problem is that it's the ONLY thing they do, and they don't even recognize the fact that they're probably the only ones society actually caters to, otherwise women still wouldn't have the right to vote. The problem isn't blaming society per se, when society is indeed unfair and you can't change things on an individual level, it's fair. The problem is making indi… | /r/MensRights | 08/12/20 08:27 AM |
| 1 | "Alienating Young Men is Deeply Sad" and the messages society sends to young men also calling out double standard: empowering young women = great. empowering young men = misogynisticWe'll talk about it the day you'll know what you are talking about. Right now, you are not even worth the time wasted by taking you seriously. Particularly if you can't even understand why I said "victim blaming" and instead just answer "MUH NOT OPPRESSED" despite it being absolutely off-topic. What are you, a 16 years old with reading comprehension problems, or what? I guess at least I'm not as much of a failure as an human being as you. If you go as far as being in denial whenever men face dis… | /r/MensRights | 07/12/20 03:22 PM |
| 3 | So, I'm confused about the notion of " men can't be raped "Yeah, right. Allies. Want to talk about rape laws? | /r/MensRights | 06/12/20 11:50 PM |
| 1 | "Alienating Young Men is Deeply Sad" and the messages society sends to young men also calling out double standard: empowering young women = great. empowering young men = misogynisticYou means the schools that mainly focus on women and are biased towards them, both in results and in teaching style? Nice victim-blaming again. Then again you've been showing that you don't know what you are talking about for a while now. | /r/MensRights | 06/12/20 11:23 PM |
| 2 | When a girl says "i don't date short guys" it's ok and everyone agrees, but when a man says "i don't date fat women" it's now body shaming and disrespectful...It reminds me of this idiot that gave crap to the cancer research society in UK on twitter... https://ibb.co/6DVtDDZ Yeah, sure, depression because of "fat shaming" from the damn cancer research society is killing more than obesity. Problems happen when EVERYTHING becomes "shaming". No, saying that being overweight, needless to say, obese, causes health issues isn't "shaming". Period. And the problem is that this "fat shaming" crap is being used to justify a lot more things that it should. Heavy… | /r/MensRights | 06/12/20 11:14 PM |
| 1 | When a girl says "i don't date short guys" it's ok and everyone agrees, but when a man says "i don't date fat women" it's now body shaming and disrespectful...That's not the point. It's about the double standard in which preferences are seen as "bigoted" and which ones are seen as "fine". Fat-shaming is recognized as a thing. Height-shaming isn't. People are free to date whoever they want, but both "shaming" aren't treated equally. Calling a woman "too fat" is terrible, is enforcing dangerous standards on women, whatever else. Calling a man "too short" is fair. Ultimately, both should be ok and legitimate preferences. | /r/MensRights | 06/12/20 11:12 PM |
| 3 | Single woman says it's an 'instant turn off' when men don't pay for first datesThat's just how it was traditionally. There are people like that in US and europe as well. The problem is when the woman feels entitled to it, basically when it's not a choice. Then again, there's the problem of men not "getting" the double standard at all, because they've been said for their whole life that this is how it is. But thanks to social networks, dating apps and the rise of women dating JUST to get a free meal and that's it, I'd guess that the number of "traditionalist men" paying for… | /r/MensRights | 06/12/20 10:44 PM |
| 2 | What do you think of the fact that many women say that all men are dogs?I find it very funny that they equate dogs with negative characteristics like that. I'm way more of a cat person (in part because with a cat you have to earn its trust and it will tell you to gtfo if you're a bad owner) but self-centered, narcissistic, think the female population is here to serve them = dogs? That are known for their loyalty and their pack instincts? Seems like they really didn't think this one through, because saying that this makes no sense is one hell of an understatement. No… | /r/MensRights | 06/12/20 10:25 PM |
| 4 | The Insidious War on Men: The Destruction of MasculinityThat's probably the problem for many. Men wanting to be "traditionally masculine" don't want to be given a lesson on gender roles and the likes, as if this had to be celebrated but a man deciding to fit the stereotype is a problem, not a choice, and just the result of cultural indoctrination, or whatever else. The dress itself still isn't that great though, poor choice. | /r/MensRights | 06/12/20 10:10 PM |
| 2 | The Insidious War on Men: The Destruction of MasculinityFeminists weren't championing them back then, that's probably the main difference. I personally don't care about a man wearing a dress at all (and I never heard about him at all anyway, and I still don't know him, is he famous in the US or something?), if there's something bothersome with this kind of things it's if it's a political move rather than something the person really wants and would do in everyday life or if it is just buzz-seeking. Which I guess is how it is interpreted for many due t… | /r/MensRights | 06/12/20 10:03 PM |
| 2 | Facebook will no longer flag posts saying “Men are Trash” or other insults towards men as a group as hate speech.It's not. That's what I'm saying. It's worse. Not if it results in one side having an advantage on the other. That's the problem. Try sayings "women are bitches". You'll see if this is about having "less censorship". Pointing out the bigotry only works in a fair system where you are listened to instead of justifying it by some "oppression" mental gymnastic. Men have been doing it for ages, and it doesn't work, you can see the very result right now with this kind of policy being applied. The only… | /r/MensRights | 06/12/20 01:43 PM |
| 1 | Facebook will no longer flag posts saying “Men are Trash” or other insults towards men as a group as hate speech.Not the point. This isn't "less orwellian policies", since they're selective about what they're going to flag, which creates the extreme opposite of what you're talking about. People downvoting you aren't supporting facebook, they're downvoting you because you don't see the fact that it's selective censorship, which is worse than either banning everything or banning nothing at all. | /r/MensRights | 06/12/20 12:18 PM |
| 2 | This is how they react to International Men's Day...And yet another idiot trying to make a point in order to blame men without even knowing the definition of rape or considering society's bias.... | /r/MensRights | 06/12/20 12:06 PM |
| 1 | I looking for a word that describes some of feminist shaming tactics ?Hilariously enough, the damn wikipedia page of this fallacy itself quote feminism as an example. "Female Panelist: "Men face common instances of discrimination." Feminist: "You only say so because of your internalized misogyny." (The feminist assumes that men do not face common instances of discrimination and uses the construct of internalized misogyny to explain why the panelist is incorrect.)" | /r/MensRights | 06/12/20 11:53 AM |
| 6 | How feminist shaming tactics needlessly cause lasting sexual repression or guilt in a subset of men most sympathetic to feminist concerns.The funny part is, as some comments on this thread say, it's the fault of the guy because "just because he isn't like that himself, he assumes that it's the case for everyone" and as a result "he makes it completely about himself". Hu? Hello. That's literally what these women are doing. But making everything about yourself socially and your own biases are fine when it comes to women, apparently. Feelings ARE NOT legitimate arguments and should never be, otherwise you can police absolutely ANYONE… | /r/MensRights | 05/12/20 07:00 PM |
| 2 | I looking for a word that describes some of feminist shaming tactics ?Edit: didn't know this one, it seems to fit even better. Bulverism (psychogenetic fallacy) – inferring why an argument is being used, associating it to some psychological reason, then assuming it is invalid as a result. The assumption that if the origin of an idea comes from a biased mind, then the idea itself must also be a falsehood. https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/logicalfallacies/Psychogenetic-Fallacy | /r/MensRights | 05/12/20 06:34 PM |
| 6 | Women only want quality when it benefits themYeah sure, the duluth model and the idea of patriarchy sure is about "equality". Obligatory Karen Straughan. https://theindependentmanitaly.wordpress.com/2020/03/31/the-true-feminist-by-karen-straughan/ People like you being happy to be smokescreen despite the fact that feminist theory by itself is sexist are a pretty large part of the problem. Feminism isn't just "another word for equality" and never was and it is an ideology with its own sets of beliefs. And if your experience as, say, an abus… | /r/MensRights | 05/12/20 06:07 PM |
| 2 | Am i right as a gay man to feel this way? RANTFeminist hating != women hating. Feminism is an ideology with actual political inclinations and consequences on men. So feminism is going to be the problem quite often. Victim-blaming people according to your own ideology does have consequences. Women-hating, no. Again, the thing that is blamed here is feminism, which leads to preferential treatment for women and misandry. It does have a mainstream effect nowadays since, well, it became mainstream, but it's not caused by women because they're wo… | /r/MensRights | 05/12/20 03:57 PM |
| 2 | I’m tired of these females living life on easy.Motte-and-bailey again. The problem being that even extreme feminists can put on a facade of not being "extremists" when it's convenient to them. They constantly do so to silence MRA activists (also menism, wth). And your point about feminism being about the rights of women, and that's it, is constantly criticized by feminists themselves, again, whenever it's convenient to them (we know what the truth is). Would you go into the cage of a tiger that maybe might eat you, maybe might let you go bec… | /r/MensRights | 05/12/20 03:18 PM |
| 2 | According to this article, MRA’s blame women and feminism for all their problemsThe fascinating thing with feminists is that they absolutely LOVE to talk about "systemic problems" and use the term constantly any time they need to blame something on TEH APTRIARCHY!!!, but if said systemic problems are related or caused by feminism itself instead, instead become absolutely unable to understand what it means. Men not being taken seriously in cases of abuse? Either the patriarchy, or just some "small, individual problems that have nothing to do with feminism". The fact that the… | /r/MensRights | 04/12/20 12:50 AM |
| 2 | My body issues are and have never been due to my 'toxic masculinity'The insecurity thing is definitely something op should work on. But you not doing it or his personal situation isn't really related to the global problem. The problem is, like bufedad said, that it's too easy to make blanket statements and then say "yeah but I was only talking about [x]". And if things like that should be authorized, then it should be authorized for everyone, statements like "women are sluts" as an example shouldn't be seen as a bad thing neither since "maybe it implies that it'… | /r/MensRights | 03/12/20 01:19 PM |
| 3 | My friends being haunted by his breakup with his ex. What can he do for this to stop?When I personally tried to do this because I was getting harassed by people I didn't even know because one ex was pulling this crap (good old darvo), the cops gave me crap like "defamation only works if you're a company and it causes you professional problems". Suffice to say, it doesn't exactly entices you to try to defend yourself. | /r/MensRights | 03/12/20 01:06 PM |
| 2 | My friends being haunted by his breakup with his ex. What can he do for this to stop?Context matters. I talk about my own experience rather freely as well. But do you talk about it when the subject is somewhat relevant, like men fine talking about it do when people imply that only men are abusive (and even then a lot of victims still don't want to talk about it, which isn't really healthy, but that's how it is) or do you manage to place it in conversations that are absolutely unrelated. My guess is that it's the former. This woman (and the ones like her) apparently "talks to eve… | /r/MensRights | 03/12/20 01:01 PM |
| 1 | I think guys have a little right to have some resentment whether it be at feminism or whatever. Especially if they were at some point feministHence the difference between "understanding" and "apologizing" that should be understood by way more people than it is. It's a fairly big problem, since it often results in not even trying to solve issues at all. People becoming violent from being heavily bulllied are a good example: you can either demonize the culprit, and learn nothing; it just results in a scapegoat situation where nothing will change; or see if the action, while not excusable in any way and it SHOULD be understood and blamed… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/12/20 02:22 AM |
| 3 | I think guys have a little right to have some resentment whether it be at feminism or whatever. Especially if they were at some point feministIt's not really related. It's pretty common for some people to judge themselves more way "harshly" (even if the word isn't adapted since there's nothing problematic with virginity) than they judge others. And when it comes to virginity, it depends of what you think is causing this virginity. If you're personally taking it as a result of being undesirable, rather than a choice or a result of your standards/lifestyle, but think that the other people you know that are virgin are great people and it… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/12/20 02:02 AM |
| 4 | Third-wave feminists ask men 36 questions and most of them end up being extremely immature and idiotic, definitely worth the watchGood thing being against feminism doesn't make you a woman hater. | /r/MensRights | 01/12/20 05:54 PM |
| 3 | I heard a few stereotypes about men’s rights members and wonder if they are true?That's the big problem, and if you recognize the problems feminism cause it usually results in "So YoU'Re SaYiNg ThAt AlL WoMeN ArE LiKe [x]". No. However, the fact that it has a big influence, that it will be the environment the next generations will grow up with and that it is a comfortable "safety cushion" way too easy to abuse is a pretty big problem, just like the official decisions made in its name. Hello, sexist duluth model? I don't think "women are all hateful" or whatever. However, if … | /r/MensRights | 01/12/20 05:30 PM |
| 2 | I heard a few stereotypes about men’s rights members and wonder if they are true?Lacking poll. My first answer years ago would have been "the same", period. Nowadays I'd have to add a not "hate" but "want to control" and "feel entitled to anything they want from men" thanks to the mainstream influence of our current feminism dogma, which doesn't know the meaning of the word "compromises" among others and want the benefits without the maturity and the responsibilities that come with it. But this ultimately wouldn't be about women themselves, it's ultimately about culture, whi… | /r/MensRights | 01/12/20 05:23 PM |
| 3 | This thread, like many others, clearly shows that Men prefer being asked. Yet Women who read this will continue to ignore it and continue to systemically oppress Men into making the first move while denying that Men are opressed when it comes to datingIt is when they're constantly demeaned on the side. Once again, you show that you just don't notice how privileged you are. Or is an abused person responsible for its feelings too now? Great, abused women will love hearing this. Men being bad if they don't follow the feminism dogma, men never being good enough, "not enough men being economically attractive", men being potential rapists that make women uncomfortable just because the women are oversensitive (but that's something you can't say whil… | /r/MensRights | 01/12/20 04:34 PM |
| 2 | This thread, like many others, clearly shows that Men prefer being asked. Yet Women who read this will continue to ignore it and continue to systemically oppress Men into making the first move while denying that Men are opressed when it comes to datingAnd once again, you don't get the problem at all. I'll try to put it shortly: people like you are constantly screaming "patriarchy" to justify just about a-ny-thing. Which implies that you acknowledge the effect of conditioning. Patriarchy or not, whatever, in my opinion it doesn't exist but there is conditioning going on. This also applies in this situation. By not judging/shaming people wanting to have their cake and eat it to in a sexist way, you contribute to the problem, which is unfair tow… | /r/MensRights | 01/12/20 03:38 PM |
| 2 | This thread, like many others, clearly shows that Men prefer being asked. Yet Women who read this will continue to ignore it and continue to systemically oppress Men into making the first move while denying that Men are opressed when it comes to datingIt makes perfect sense. You just don't like it because it isn't compatible with your hypocrisy. That's it. There we go. "Not when it's "at her disadvantage". It's exactly as everyone say: YOU DON'T WANT TO GIVE UP ON ANY PRIVILEGE and throw the hot potato at someone else whenever it would be required. You're an hypocrite masquerading behind a pseudo-"equality", and an extremist one since, even among feminists, as bad as they are, there are at least some that acknowledge the issue. Again, these a… | /r/MensRights | 01/12/20 02:29 PM |
| 2 | This thread, like many others, clearly shows that Men prefer being asked. Yet Women who read this will continue to ignore it and continue to systemically oppress Men into making the first move while denying that Men are opressed when it comes to datingIf you're speechless, then it's just because you are stupid, nothing else. The point being that "biology" isn't a good argument. We reject biology when it's convenient to us. Case in point: abortion. Once again, here you're using an "appeal to nature"... But only when it's convenient to you. If "biology" is supposed to be a worthwhile an argument, then let's forbid abortion, the pill, and whatever else. We have rules that go against what you'll find in nature and "biology" if these things are ju… | /r/MensRights | 01/12/20 01:18 PM |
| 2 | Women in STEM movement just proves women have no idea how bad men have itSay the person willingly ignoring the claims of sexism from men in this very thread and summing everything up as "women have it worse" and "the patriarchy!". The hypocrisy. You don't care about claims (not a bad thing by itself since anyone can "claim" anything particularly to justify its own failures), you only care about them and take them seriously when they go your way. | /r/MensRights | 01/12/20 11:27 AM |
| 1 | Feminists that recognize problems pertaining to men are amazing.Half of the list can be read like "men should have the right to be like women". I mean, arguing for hair pieces but not for how sexist current DV strategies are or paper abortion (that, conveniently enough, are way more complicated subjects for feminists since it involves actually revoking some female privileges)? Seriously now? It's not a list of male problems. It's a list of male problems that are convenient enough to be acknowledged, can all be blamed on the evil ""patriarchy"" somehow, and a… | /r/MensRights | 30/11/20 11:22 PM |
| 1 | Is it true that most partner on partner violence is in lesbian couples?Your role models aren't necessarily your parents, and there's no such thing as "being a man" or "being a woman" as an absolute that children should aim at. And yes, I already agreed that SOME push their activism too far, particularly nowadays. It's not the case for most of the "silent lgbt" that don't recognize themselves in the movement, though. Married... Okay, you're just a religious tradcon, got it. Disagree on this one. While there can be changes later in life., particularly due to repressi… | /r/MensRights | 30/11/20 10:41 PM |
| 2 | Is it true that most partner on partner violence is in lesbian couples?I dont even see what these statistics are trying to prove. Of course homosexual parents will have a bigger likelihood of ""having homosexual children"". It doesn't have to be a bad thing. Crazy activist parents are a thing, and it shouldn't be accepted (and this includes every single type of activism, including religious one) , but are we just going to forget the fact that the difference might be caused by the kid being raised in a more tolerant environment which leads him to not believing that … | /r/MensRights | 30/11/20 10:13 PM |
| 2 | Is it true that most partner on partner violence is in lesbian couples?Well, of course there is more chance of their children being homosexual, why is that a surprise or a bad thing? The real question is whether it is because of indoctrination (some hardcore "woke" parents are like that sadly enough, raising their children to be, say, trans as if a kid was a political statement), which is bad, or whether it's because the kid has been exposed to an environment that is more tolerant from the get-go, which "forces" the homosexual kid out of the closet in a way that wo… | /r/MensRights | 30/11/20 10:06 PM |
| 1 | Oxford Uni Debate: This is an excellent & sophisticated rebuttal to feminists attempts to call masculinity bad, problematic, harmful, "hurts men too", and using false toxic masculinity concept (NOTE: this is not a trad con "make men do old gender roles" argument at all, its quite the opposite)Yes and no. It is a problem. It's just that feminism "institutionalize" it to avoid acknowledging that it's not a SOCIETY problem, but one they play a pretty large part in as well. Men being the ones jailed when they're abused is a part of "society's expectations of men"... But it's not caused by the evil gender roles and the ghostly patriarchy they use to explain everything, it's caused by people... which includes feminists (and feminists are even a very large part of the problem if we're talki… | /r/MensRights | 30/11/20 09:47 PM |
| 1 | If you can’t control your emotions stop blaming men. Blame a culture that has infantilized you and convinced that every feeling means something. It doesn’t.I'd say it is assignated to women because of their "victim statut" so it's kind of relevant. Men often get blamed even when they are actually and willingly attacked or whatever so it's pretty much a different situation. That's how we gt ideas like "fragile masculinity" or whatever. And sadly enough the groups promoting these ideas have an actual influence on things like education. I'm not even american myself. But the "cultural difference" when it comes to this isn't limited to america. It's not… | /r/MensRights | 30/11/20 04:01 PM |
| 1 | Autistic Man Exonerated After Woman Admits She Falsely Accused Him Of Sexual AssaultIt's always great when your body language gets misread and a friend throws a fit, putting 10 people against you, because she misinterpreted a "hello-kiss on the cheek" (which is the norm in my country) as you trying to french-kiss her (don't ask me how she made this stretch despite the weird body language, because I have no idea neither). Let alone other accusations. False accusations are great when people just project their weird ideas on things they just don't understand. I've also had the "ha… | /r/MensRights | 30/11/20 03:11 PM |
| 1 | If you can’t control your emotions stop blaming men. Blame a culture that has infantilized you and convinced that every feeling means something. It doesn’t.Putting aside the issue of infantilization being hard to acknowledge so this is a matter of "show, don't tell", you not being infantilized doesn't mean that culture isn't infantilizing to women. "Drunk rape" is a good example of this. it is effectively removing a woman her agency BEFORE she decides to start drinking alcohol even if she knows she'll do things she regrets once drunk. Removing agency = infantilization. You not being "a child" doesn't mean that the culture isn't heavily infantilizin… | /r/MensRights | 30/11/20 02:51 PM |
| 1 | If you can’t control your emotions stop blaming men. Blame a culture that has infantilized you and convinced that every feeling means something. It doesn’t.The problem is the idea of having to adapt to these emotions, when sometimes what is needed is to get rid of them instead because they're misplaced. That's how it doesn't necessarily "mean" something. Ultimately, it at least means that you have to work on yourself to get rid of it, but it doesn't necessarily mean that the outside world must adapt to it. | /r/MensRights | 30/11/20 02:46 PM |
| 1 | If you can’t control your emotions stop blaming men. Blame a culture that has infantilized you and convinced that every feeling means something. It doesn’t.I'd personally argue that it's not even a minority at all, but that's a cultural problem, not a man/woman problem; people are often opportunistic and introspection is hard, and if you give them a perfect scapegoat that allows them to avoid addressing their own problems, most will take it. It just mainly applies to women here because of the current victimhood culture and because of the "women = only existing victims" narrative (unless it's about a problem men face that can somehow be explained by… | /r/MensRights | 30/11/20 02:43 PM |
| 2 | Patriarchy a self defeating theory"Generally speaking, it is possible to use the same logical construction to make the existence of a cattusarcat, a system where cats have all the powers, irrefutable." Wait, are you trying to say that it's not the case? My boys and girls would like to have a word with you.. | /r/MensRights | 30/11/20 01:58 PM |
| 2 | Anon has a pointGreat. Now tell that the law. | /r/MensRights | 30/11/20 03:25 AM |
| 2 | Anon has a pointWouldn't change anything. I guess you don't know anything about marital rape complains and the likes. The problem being that the law isn't supposed to be sexist. And when the guy is accused of rape because the wife "wasn't able to consent" somehow, the fact that they're married doesn't matter. Just like how I wouldn't like being coerced into sex with someone I'm not ready to have sex with. I personally believe that drunk behaviour = more true to one's true nature. But it doesn't change the fact … | /r/MensRights | 30/11/20 01:53 AM |
| 1 | “Real men” sacrifice themselvesThe image wording, don't worry. Replace "real man" by "real hero" and it becomes very wholesome. Saying "real man", though, is a hint towards a problem. | /r/MensRights | 30/11/20 01:45 AM |
| 2 | “Real men” sacrifice themselvesThat's the exact problem with this statement. Extremely bad word picking. | /r/MensRights | 30/11/20 01:33 AM |
| 1 | “Real men” sacrifice themselvesAnd yet this picture is a proof of it. It says "real man". Not a more subjective and better term, like "hero", which is also good while also not equating men with sacrifice. That's where the problem lies. | /r/MensRights | 30/11/20 01:23 AM |
| 3 | “Real men” sacrifice themselvesThe problem is the term "REAL man". It implies that he is a REAL man because he did this. It's that "real" word that is problematic. Real is a binary term. Replace "real man" with, I don't know, "hero" and it becomes a lot less problematic. But as it is now, it's "real man". As opposed to "not real man", that would not make the same choice. | /r/MensRights | 30/11/20 01:20 AM |
| 2 | Anon has a pointDouble standards about rape are however they are. Whether you want it or not. I could easily answer with conjugal rape and drunk sex rape here. Also nothing here says that he wanted to do it while sober, instead of some kind of manipulation, being fine with it "after the fact" doesn't have anything to do with the actions themselves in the moment. You're just taking the woman's words as the absolute truth here. Unless you really think that regretting sex = rape, which is stupid. | /r/MensRights | 30/11/20 01:13 AM |
| 1 | Why didn’t he report it? Because Domestic Violence on Men is not just an act committed by one person, but also a pervasive culture that feeds on silence. Male victims of domestic abuse fear victim blaming, stigma, rejection and other barriers too.I love the "shame" or whatever else argument. It's always used to explain that "yeah, but it's because of gender roles that men aren't listened to, and therefore if we smash the patriarchy it'll free men from these gender roles and "toxic masculinity" both from themselves ans others and they'll be able to talk about it". It's just victim-blaming and blame-shifting with a different cover. Uh. No. You're replacing it with something that is even more sexist than gender roles have ever been. I never… | /r/MensRights | 30/11/20 12:51 AM |
| 1 | Why didn’t he report it? Because Domestic Violence on Men is not just an act committed by one person, but also a pervasive culture that feeds on silence. Male victims of domestic abuse fear victim blaming, stigma, rejection and other barriers too.PC version? "They feel shame and don't want to talk about it because of this, it's the patriarchy's fault again" Non-PC version? They know they face sexism and therefore are afraid because they know they'll have everything fighting against them, including feminist institutions against DV. It's less about feeling shame and more about not worsening your own situation (and no, it's not about the "patriarchy" since a ton of this is caused by the duluth model, which is explicitly feminist and is supp… | /r/MensRights | 29/11/20 11:08 PM |
| 4 | Do men's rights proponents care about opressive gender roles?The first step is to stop seeing absolutely everything as "gender roles". Fact is, most of the people pretending to fight "gender roles" are often the worst when it comes to gender roles. They just cherry-pick what is useful to them in it and what isn't. Men not talking about abuse because "they must be strong" is a false lead. There are tons of men talking about it. they just can't directly do something about it because of SEXISM, not "gender roles". The law and its sexism is the problem. And t… | /r/MensRights | 20/11/20 11:12 AM |
| 2 | Men's day. Feminism claims to care about men, but I don't see how.You're conveniently avoiding the point that feminist actually have political influence. That's when it becomes problematic. When it was just a crazy bunch of harpies with no influence, it was way less of a problem. Also, "men don't need a men's day", that's your own opinion. You sounds like a tradcon. | /r/MensRights | 20/11/20 10:49 AM |
| 2 | What a disgusting threadBecause these things mostly come out when you talk about something that actually has a cost for women and when there's something to gain out of it. The rest of the time it's easy to put a facade of "men matter too". When it actually forces you to reconsider your own way in life, it becomes more problematic. Most of the feminists I knew that'd qualify as extremist looked quite moderate at first glance. Until their experience made them benefit from the radical viewpoint. Which makes it that much m… | /r/MensRights | 19/11/20 09:10 PM |
| 1 | What a disgusting threadThat's what small talk is all about. And since they don't know you, they don't know what you care about or not neither. Particularly if you just "smile through it". So no, it isn't. Not to mention that it's not a problem limited to strangers. Some people are just that much more social than others when it comes to this. I'm the extreme opposite, literally, but I'm also aware that I'm not the norm, at all. This is a difference when it comes to sociability, not something problematic or something to… | /r/MensRights | 19/11/20 08:55 PM |
| 2 | This feminist idea that guys only want sex from girls is damaging to both sexesTrue or not, that's actually a common point of view, it predated incels and the likes to a ridiculous point. Also, "incel" as an insult? God, we've fallen so low now? | /r/MensRights | 19/11/20 01:15 PM |
| 3 | What a disgusting thread"Open up about your feelings" "No, not like that!" "IT'S BECAUSE OF TOXIC MASCULINITY? GENDER ROLES AND THE PATRIARCHY THAT MEN DON'T OPEN UP!" Also, it's quite funny since it's usually the exact opposite way around. Men doing "emotional labor", as they'd put it, with her reaction being what they get in return when they need someone to talk with. Also², " Customers who spent my time and patience lecturing me about conspiracy theory crap or their political beliefs and I had to smile through it.".… | /r/MensRights | 19/11/20 10:52 AM |
| 4 | This feminist idea that guys only want sex from girls is damaging to both sexesNo, because it doesn't imply that men just want sex. But if the person has nothing else to offer, well, people take what they can get. With a sane and non-lobotomized woman only parroting sexist nonsense the exact same man wouldn't "want just sex" since the woman is interesting in other ways. That's the things these sexists constantly miss. | /r/MensRights | 19/11/20 10:24 AM |
| 1 | Feminist says she'll only date men who acknowledge they are "trash".Patriarchy is the problem. This one says that "yeah but it's only directed to the patriarchy and toxic masculinity". Feminists would approve since the patriarchy theory is a thing in their conspiracy theory book and they "fight against it". Something that isn't systematically true (and even false more often than not) when it comes to mra, who don't recognize its existence in the west. So good luck finding a middle ground with feminists on that one. | /r/MensRights | 19/11/20 10:17 AM |
| 0 | UK: 'Bring back manly men!' Harry Styles is SLAMMED for wearing a dress in Vogue as jounalist insists 'no society can survive without strong' males. The feminization of men at the same time that Marxism is being taught to children is no coincidenceThat's not what I meant by provocative, I was thinking about celebrities purposely wearing things they know will cause a shitstorm purely for the sake of mediatisation because they know people will talk about it and that's it. I don't know this person at all so it may not be the case here, but I've seen this with enough musicians to be wary about this kind of things. If he wants to wear a dress, more power to him, I guess I've just seen too many publicity stunts like that. | /r/MensRights | 17/11/20 11:16 PM |
| 4 | Law Designed to Catch Men has "Inadvertently" Caught Women, Women Don't Like It.Let's avoid the r word as much as we can, shall we? | /r/MensRights | 17/11/20 01:03 PM |
| 1 | What do you boys think about traditional gender norms?"I don't see them pushing a political agenda. It's just a small group of activists claiming to represent the whole group." Depends a lot of the people you know. Sadly, this "small group" isn't so small anymore, but even more importantly, the problem is that the crazies are now the ones with political and activistic power by weaponizing victimhood. Most lgbt that I know (and myself I guess) make a -VERY CLEAR- distinction between lgbt - the statut and lgbt - the community because of this, it's pr… | /r/MensRights | 17/11/20 12:46 PM |
| 2 | UK: 'Bring back manly men!' Harry Styles is SLAMMED for wearing a dress in Vogue as jounalist insists 'no society can survive without strong' males. The feminization of men at the same time that Marxism is being taught to children is no coincidenceSince when does something have to be a majority for it to be acceptable? I'd understand the point if it directly has an effect on you (transperson not disclosing their birth gender before dating you or whatever) but.. this isn't about what "defines the majority" at all? If it was saying that "all men must wear skirts in order to prove that they're real men and not slaves to gender roles" you'd have a point, but this is not what this is about. At all. | /r/MensRights | 17/11/20 12:31 PM |
| 1 | UK: 'Bring back manly men!' Harry Styles is SLAMMED for wearing a dress in Vogue as jounalist insists 'no society can survive without strong' males. The feminization of men at the same time that Marxism is being taught to children is no coincidenceIdeally, neither side should give a f**k. Sadly, it's not where we are at right now. Between the ones advocating for REAL MEN™ and the ones saying that "men should do [x] because otherwise they're just following gender roles", both sides look pretty bad. I don't trust it at all when it comes to celebrities, but it's more closely related to the fact that this kind of stunt is often used purely for the shck and the marketing factors rather than anything else, rather than any kind of gender roles. | /r/MensRights | 17/11/20 12:27 PM |
| 3 | UK: 'Bring back manly men!' Harry Styles is SLAMMED for wearing a dress in Vogue as jounalist insists 'no society can survive without strong' males. The feminization of men at the same time that Marxism is being taught to children is no coincidenceExtreme opposite reaction coming from an extreme behaviour from the other side. This is pretty much an example of a direct backslash of ""progressivism"" that keeps trying to make emasculation like the "good" choice that should be aimed at, otherwise you're toxic and just conforming to gender roles and it's automatically bad. Otherwise, people would probably laugh at it as well, but not as vehemently. Extremism in one way tends to cause extremism in the opposite way down the line. And we've been… | /r/MensRights | 17/11/20 10:15 AM |
| 0 | UK: 'Bring back manly men!' Harry Styles is SLAMMED for wearing a dress in Vogue as jounalist insists 'no society can survive without strong' males. The feminization of men at the same time that Marxism is being taught to children is no coincidenceI think the exact opposite. He can wear whatever he wants. But if it's just a "statement" and is taken as something to be encouraged then it becomes problematic (and then there's the fact that these things are often stunts made to make people talk about it in a commercial way, and this has been done often enough for people to be suspicious about it, but who knows if it applies in this particular case or not). Men wearing dresses if they want to = good (although if the person look bad in a partic… | /r/MensRights | 17/11/20 10:07 AM |
| 0 | UK: 'Bring back manly men!' Harry Styles is SLAMMED for wearing a dress in Vogue as jounalist insists 'no society can survive without strong' males. The feminization of men at the same time that Marxism is being taught to children is no coincidenceAdd to that, not pushed in one way or the other by their family/culture/etc. A man being as masculine or feminine as he wants to is good, but only if it's not because he's taught that he will be "better", "more tolerant", less "toxic" (since he deviates from gender norms) or whatever else if he is. That's where the problem usually lies. | /r/MensRights | 17/11/20 09:59 AM |
| -2 | UK: 'Bring back manly men!' Harry Styles is SLAMMED for wearing a dress in Vogue as jounalist insists 'no society can survive without strong' males. The feminization of men at the same time that Marxism is being taught to children is no coincidenceThis is pretty much the real problem. Wear whatever you want. Just don't expect a special treatment for it though, like how you're so strong or better than others for daring to go against social norms. And if what you wear looks bad on you and it looks ridiculous, it looks bad on you. Period. it being "progressive" doesn't stop people from having an opinion, particularly if you're a celebrity. The combo "doing something in order to be provocative"+using "tolerance" as a way to silence people's o… | /r/MensRights | 17/11/20 09:57 AM |
| 3 | Male victims are being left out of the domestic violence conversation - Calgary JournalA ton of DV-related things are self-fulfilling prophecies. I've had a feminist argue at me that "it's men's fault if there isn't any woman's shelter, feminists try to create some (...yeah ok, sure) and why don't men try to create some themselves". Maybe because they pretty much can't and face backslash when they try? But it's a nice way to blame the men for the fact that they're not listened to. Stop the men from having a voice and from being recognized, and then complain about how they don't do… | /r/MensRights | 17/11/20 09:51 AM |
| 5 | What do you boys think about traditional gender norms?I don't care about them and other people following them, but if it's forced on me, it can go to hell. I don't think that they're the "root of all evil" as feminism tries to make them look though. People, and society, are a lot more complicated than that. Also, they're often used in a VERY hypocritical way. Keeping the "good", letting go of the "bad". Nope, not how things work. If you want to get rid of them, you don't get to cherry-pick. But this side of the probvlem tends to cause a fuss for a … | /r/MensRights | 17/11/20 09:45 AM |
| 2 | Domestic Violence against men: This is why we can't get help" When women use violence in an intimate relationship, the circumstances of that violence tend to differ from when men use violence. Men’s use of violence against women is learned and reinforced through many social, cultural and institutional experiences. Women’s use of violence does not have the same kind of societal support. Many women who do use violence against their male partners are being battered. Their violence is used primarily to respond to and resist the violence used against them. On… | /r/MensRights | 17/11/20 08:09 AM |
| 1 | Douglas Todd: Why no shelters for male victims of partner violence?I "dared" to talk about the fact that no, most of the time men don't "not talk about DV" because of "shame" and "toxic masculinity" but because they know that if they do, the system is stacked against them on a quora post about Depp. (funnily enough it made a feminist bring the whole "TOXIC MASCULINITY IS ABOUT SOCIETY'S PERCEPTION OF MEN YOU JUST DON'T GET IT" yet again despite it not being used like this by feminists 90% of the time.... and yet said feminist couldn't accept that it meant that … | /r/MensRights | 17/11/20 06:28 AM |
| 1 | Ask reddit post about male domestic abuse victims. So many red pills all in one place.Don't forget the good old "MeN DoNt TaLk AbOuT iT BeCaUsE ThEyRe AsHaMed" which allows them to blame-shift on the male again because "TOXIC MASCULINITY!". No, it certainly cannot be because if you defend yourself and make as much as a bruise, you end up being the culprit, no, it cannot be because if you "snitch" and the woman pretend you were the one that attacked, you are the culprit even if you have proofs, etc. It's just "because men are too proud" (therefore, it's their fault). Not because t… | /r/MGTOW | 04/11/20 12:59 PM |
| 1 | France deports Bosnians who beat and shaved daughter's hair over love affair - infant male genital cutting still okayI thank you for this, because my own mother has been saying that MGC is forbidden in france (probably because she doesn't know any better)for years and that's it's different from the US and I blindly thought it was right. I made some search about it and.. yeah, it turns out that ritual MGC is still fine and dandy in this country. Of course. I just can't agree with the shaving their daughter thing. It's ABSOLUTE nonsense and it has no right to happen at all and this happening is one of the things… | /r/MensRights | 24/10/20 11:59 PM |
| 1 | My teacher believes in the wage gap.Funnily enough, women apparently don't get hired, but men's numbers when it comes to unemployment are bigger. At least in my country. Oh well, I guess it's because all men are lazy. | /r/MensRights | 21/10/20 05:17 PM |
| 2 | Quick review of the science: The most common traits described as "toxic" (grit and strength) are actually good for us. They reduce depression, anxiety and suicidal ideation. They also improve psychological well-being, life satisfaction, meaning in life and academic outcomes.I try to be more gender-neutral in order to directly answer to the inevitable the "bu-but men are the one that don't let other men look weak if they want to!" or however else they'll put it. 1/ it's often because said other men are also trapped in the same problem, and frankly, there's no easy answer out of it. Otherwise it'd be easier to give actual advices. 2/ It definitely isn't as common as they make you want to think it is, most of this crap comes from women. 3/ When it does happens, well, … | /r/MensRights | 20/10/20 09:23 PM |
| 1 | Quick review of the science: The most common traits described as "toxic" (grit and strength) are actually good for us. They reduce depression, anxiety and suicidal ideation. They also improve psychological well-being, life satisfaction, meaning in life and academic outcomes.And good luck if the problem you're talking about is something that would result in a negative for a woman if solved. Really, good luck. | /r/MensRights | 20/10/20 09:07 PM |
| 1 | Quick review of the science: The most common traits described as "toxic" (grit and strength) are actually good for us. They reduce depression, anxiety and suicidal ideation. They also improve psychological well-being, life satisfaction, meaning in life and academic outcomes.That's more or less the idea yes, although (as I added in an edit) I tend to put it into a more global package that isn't even gender-related except for the fact that toxic masculinity became a very convenient way to "force" a man to open up when he shouldn't using feminism rhetoric. We've all had these friends here when you had to listen to them constantly, but if you ever needed to open up, suddenly, you had to swallow it up and listen to THEM again instead, and it has nothing to do with "gend… | /r/MensRights | 20/10/20 08:47 PM |
| 2 | Quick review of the science: The most common traits described as "toxic" (grit and strength) are actually good for us. They reduce depression, anxiety and suicidal ideation. They also improve psychological well-being, life satisfaction, meaning in life and academic outcomes.Yeah, no. That's a ridiculous summary and doesn't even cover a quarter of how it's always used. Not to mention that as always it's blaming pseudo-gender roles for behaviours that are more complex, contextual and multifactorial in nature. | /r/MensRights | 20/10/20 08:18 PM |
| 1 | Quick review of the science: The most common traits described as "toxic" (grit and strength) are actually good for us. They reduce depression, anxiety and suicidal ideation. They also improve psychological well-being, life satisfaction, meaning in life and academic outcomes.Or because of past experiences teaching them that it's the only available "safe" way for them to do things (when it comes to things like bottling up your emotions). In the end, it's NOT a "gender role" thing. It's a way to cope with things, particularly when you're seen as expendable anyway. But it's easier to just put the blame on gender roles, and this way you don't have to wonder about your own responsibility in this crap if your husband doesn't feel safe opening up to you anymore or whatever… | /r/MensRights | 20/10/20 08:15 PM |
| 1 | Quick review of the science: The most common traits described as "toxic" (grit and strength) are actually good for us. They reduce depression, anxiety and suicidal ideation. They also improve psychological well-being, life satisfaction, meaning in life and academic outcomes.Which is an utter fantasy and not the norm at all, not to mention, not gender-related. So thanks for proving the point. Gender roles only are the basis of everything in your mind, for everyone else, life is a tad more complicated. | /r/MensRights | 20/10/20 08:00 PM |
| 2 | Quick review of the science: The most common traits described as "toxic" (grit and strength) are actually good for us. They reduce depression, anxiety and suicidal ideation. They also improve psychological well-being, life satisfaction, meaning in life and academic outcomes.Because it's absolute nonsense and summing up an human being, that is made of countless variables, into a single convenient "gender" package. TM means whatever the one using it wants it to mean. Sometimes it's about the person's own behaviour. Then, when you get stuck because people tell you that men don't open up because people dgaf anyway, it becomes because "TM is about everyone's expectations of the person" instead. Reality is a lot easier to get and a lot more complicated at once, men don't… | /r/MensRights | 20/10/20 07:56 PM |
| 2 | Quick review of the science: The most common traits described as "toxic" (grit and strength) are actually good for us. They reduce depression, anxiety and suicidal ideation. They also improve psychological well-being, life satisfaction, meaning in life and academic outcomes.I'd say that's a behavior rather than a trait. It's definitely a toxic behavior and it's not unique to either men or women. And it's not even related to gender in the first place if you think about it for more than one minute anyway. By that I mean that it's easy to blame "bottling emotions" on the person itself when it just shows that your problem-solving skills are only superficial. A ton of people bottling themselves up in a bad way don't do it because "muh gender roles" "muh i have to look M… | /r/MensRights | 20/10/20 07:41 PM |
| 3 | The Wikipedia article on the alt-right mentions men’s rights as being a part of it.Except that good luck proving that this is "false" when it comes to MRA. And good luck proving it's right when it comes to MRA. What people judge isn't the NAME "feminism". It's their actions. Which makes quite a big difference. Defending things like paper abortion isn't "wanting a male-centered society". Parotting nonsense like the patriarchy theory and using it to justify special treatment that doesn't have any basis in reality is, however, heavily female-centered since it isn't about any exis… | /r/MensRights | 19/10/20 12:55 AM |
| 4 | The Wikipedia article on the alt-right mentions men’s rights as being a part of it.Scammer. Intersectional feminism is mainly against, say, ""white feminism"" overshadowing ""other feminism" like feminism for PoC, it's just an internal oppression olympic. Maybe there are some rational ones that are actually more egalitarian caught it the fire but it's fairly rare. "Intersectional" feminism is quite picky about what they're "intersectional" with. Sure, some dislike the extremism of some others; but not because they care about men's PoV:more often than not it still devolves into… | /r/MensRights | 19/10/20 12:44 AM |
| 1 | Why don’t men go into Liberal Arts?That's more about ethics, which could be related to my point somehow, because ethics depend a lot of the context at any given moment so being too absolute about it is nonsense, but isn't my point stricto sensu. There are good reasons not to rush through things like vaccines where the benefits/risks is completely unknown if you're not going through a zombie apocalypse. Thing is, science basically works by trying to prove yourself or other things, no matter how "obvious" they seem at the time, wro… | /r/MensRights | 10/10/20 07:49 PM |
| 1 | Why don’t men go into Liberal Arts?I'd say that it is a good source of information, but rather than teaching critical thinking it requires it from the get-go for it to have any value instead (otherwise you end up with a locked doctrine being taught which isn't that great neither, this has quite a negative effect in science, most of the science graduates I know don't know anything about science at its core, they know what books or they professor taught them to repeat but it's not that useful when it comes to working on NEW things … | /r/MensRights | 09/10/20 08:14 PM |
| 1 | Why don’t men go into Liberal Arts?Not really my cup of tea, since I don't like conservative that much neither and they're still biased in their own way so I'm careful about said "critical thinking". This being said, even if to me it's mainly a fool's errand I hope they make me lie, since they they have more influence than or I would ever have, it would be interesting to see them manage to break liberal arts in two, which would lead to more room for alternative currents if everything isn't locked to social justice theory anymore. | /r/MensRights | 09/10/20 08:06 PM |
| 1 | Why don’t men go into Liberal Arts?Not my point. Re-read what you just said. It amounts to "if you didn't go to college, you're not intelligent". How's that for a narrow-minded worldview. | /r/MensRights | 09/10/20 07:43 PM |
| 2 | IM SO FUCKING PISSED RIGHTAnd then wonder why it happened. Thats the problem when you let people have bad habit because you spoil them, they don't learn that their actions will one day have consequences and therefore even tend to get worse and worse, until they meet someone beating them at their own game. | /r/MensRights | 09/10/20 07:29 PM |
| 2 | Why don’t men go into Liberal Arts?You're aware that you're the one that sounds incredibly biased here, limiting intelligence to academia, right? Also, "limited perspective"... That's exactly the problem with colleges, just so you know. Your perspectives are actually wider without it PARTICULARLY in liberal arts where it's pretty much ideology-locked. Your idea wouldn't let you last long before being shut down by the doxa. But feel free to try. Just be aware that you're not the only one that tried. | /r/MensRights | 09/10/20 07:25 PM |
| 2 | Gucci sells a Dress for Men for $2600(USD) to fight Toxic MasculinityThat's pretty much what I have been saying. As long as there is no bullying involved, you're free to do whatever you want, social construct or not, your view is neither superior nor inferior to any other belief. Again, this is going into personal appreciation (and even aesthetic ones at that). Not the point. The reason I brought up greece is that what is seen as acceptable is culturally driven, first and foremost. Not biology-driven. And it's not merely a matter of "making things that put an emp… | /r/MensRights | 09/10/20 03:36 PM |
| 4 | European Commission President when talking about equality: "Using only half of the population, half of the ideas or half of the energy is not good enough." Really? Don't women a have any say on anything? Let's look at the reality behind the feminist crazy talk.Someone explains to me how we only use "half of the population, half of the ideas", etc if she's somehow allowed to have this position. We're so discriminatory towards women that the damn ECP itself is a woman. Or maybe there's a dick hidden in her pants that no one know about? | /r/MensRights | 09/10/20 03:11 PM |
| 3 | European Commission President when talking about equality: "Using only half of the population, half of the ideas or half of the energy is not good enough." Really? Don't women a have any say on anything? Let's look at the reality behind the feminist crazy talk.She probably doesn't even know what voting means. European commission presidents aren't elected by the population after all, so it must be some kind of abstract subject that she has a weird fantasy about in her head. | /r/MensRights | 09/10/20 03:07 PM |
| 2 | Gucci sells a Dress for Men for $2600(USD) to fight Toxic MasculinityThis isn't about people accepting it, that's not men's problem and it shouldn't be (if we take "accept" as not bullying, and not "wanting to date" which is another stretch). Although if it comes to outright discrimination, bullying or whatever else, then I'd disagree and it is, indeed, your job to "change your view"; but because discrimination or bullying is bad towards anyone, the dress doesn't really have anything to do with it, the person could be in a clown outfit and it'd be the same. Well,… | /r/MensRights | 09/10/20 02:42 PM |
| 1 | Gucci sells a Dress for Men for $2600(USD) to fight Toxic MasculinityThe cash grab part isn't the main problem. Making it some kind of judgement based on politics and a moral high ground because "muh toxic masculinity" and "muh gender stereotypes = bad" is. Wanting nothing to do with this dress at all is legitimate, and you don't need to wear a dress to not display "toxic masculinity", making the whole thing stupid. Making this about TM is basically delegitimizing anyone that wouldn't wear this even for a billion. Wearing this dress means that you like dresses, w… | /r/MensRights | 09/10/20 02:15 PM |
| 1 | Gucci sells a Dress for Men for $2600(USD) to fight Toxic MasculinityIt's not about not being masculine. It's about being the one defining it. The point, in their fucked-up mind, is that "good masculinity" is wearing this. The dress or being masculine isn't the problem. Belittling and removing the credibility of the vast majority, which, and it's their absolute right, would never wear this, is. The usual "toxic masculinity" crap isn't problematic because of people that actively want to avoid ""gender roles"" or men wanting not to be masculine, you do you. It's pr… | /r/MensRights | 09/10/20 02:08 PM |
| 1 | Gucci sells a Dress for Men for $2600(USD) to fight Toxic MasculinityIt's easier than that and way less about deleting all genders or whatever. It's just a control trip in the name of a pseudo "moral high ground". While men have the right to wear whatever thy want, including dresses, this is just a control trip towards men that, legitimately, have their own opinion and wouldn't wear one at any cost. Who just happen to be the majority and it makes them toxic and "trapped in their gender role". That's the big scam of this kind of reasoning; it always conflates tole… | /r/MensRights | 09/10/20 01:59 PM |
| 1 | Gucci sells a Dress for Men for $2600(USD) to fight Toxic MasculinityWell, if suddenly all guys wake up tomorrow and all feel like wearing dresses, that's their own problem and nothing anyone should complain about, personal freedom, all that. The problem is actively parading to enforce this in the name of "good masculinity", "fairness", "inclusivity", "how men should be and what they should be ok with" or whatever else. A man that'd rather die than to try a dress doesn't have a problem at all (well, if we're literal about dying he probably has one but that's beca… | /r/MensRights | 09/10/20 01:50 PM |
| 2 | Gucci sells a Dress for Men for $2600(USD) to fight Toxic MasculinityWell, if a man wants to wear a dress, more power to him, honestly. The problem is making it some kind of political statement to force others and society to go towards something. You want a dress? Go for it. Just know that it'll only mean that you enjoy dresses. Not that you're "fighting against toxic masculinity" or "the patriarchy" by wearing it. It's something to accept, the problem is trying to make it a norm or something standard against everyone else's will. The problem isn't the guy wearin… | /r/MensRights | 09/10/20 01:40 PM |
| 1 | Debunking the popular “men did this, so they deserve this” argument with simple logicIt is in fact the typical rhetoric used when it comes to""toxic masculinity". | /r/MensRights | 09/10/20 01:36 PM |
| 1 | Treatment Of "Incels" By SocietyWhat I mean is that I don't find what you're talking about ""triggering" and I actually could even somewhat agree, you absolute genius. Since you seem to love to complain about people "whining". But there's a place and a time for everything. But I guess that's too much to ask from you, since you haven't brought a single argument that wasn't off-topic yet. But if you really want me to I guess I can go full fascist, it'd be quite useful to your agenda, wouldn't it? Yeah, sure. Say the guy that cau… | /r/MensRights | 09/10/20 07:27 AM |
| 1 | Treatment Of "Incels" By SocietyAnd you're just a troll. End of discussion. Keep WKing if you want to. I'm fine discussing with things that are unfair if that's a serious debate where people aren't too stuck-up, but you're just bringing it up when it comes to serious subjects in a "women have it worse!" way and in ways that have nothing to do with the subject at all. Call it being dramatic, but in the end you're just ignoring the real subject that is just as important as any (fake) "slut-shaming" or whatever else. If to you, t… | /r/MensRights | 09/10/20 06:38 AM |
| 1 | Treatment Of "Incels" By SocietyI don't care about your own life. I'm talking about how the word was used. And that's how it was. And it's similar to how incel is used now. Period. Put this "fairness" up your ass, while it may be a worthwhile subject, for sure, somewhere else, and I'm the first one to debate about fairness when it's the subject at hand, it isn't here, since everything I did was explaining that the idea of an "incel" didn't came out of nowhere but was just a logical extension of the past, period. Again, oppress… | /r/MensRights | 09/10/20 06:15 AM |
| 1 | Treatment Of "Incels" By SocietyYour comments had absolutely NO sense at all and you ignored everything I said altogether. I should be the one asking you that instead. Whining? No. I said that it's the same thing as before, but more "politically correct" when it comes to using it as an insult because otherwise it'd go against others pseudo ""arguments"" used to sound progressive, so to say. That's it. You're the one that brought the victimhood olympics into it. End of it. If you can't understand that and feel the need to be a … | /r/MensRights | 09/10/20 05:43 AM |
| 1 | Treatment Of "Incels" By SocietyWrong. Wrong again. Then, buy a brain, not my problem. I was quite clear. You're the one that started to get off-subject. Again, not my problem if you can't understand someone's point without going full "AAAAAH BUT WHORES AND SLUTS". I was quite clear even in my very first message. Period. People redirecting an insult isn't a complex idea, or one that require the kind of crap you brought in it. | /r/MensRights | 09/10/20 05:32 AM |
| 3 | Treatment Of "Incels" By SocietyNo, I just know how these words were used, but nice deflection (and upset? Nice projection here. Me not writing a wall of text doesn't mean that I'm angry, just that you're not worthy of more interest than that). Oh look, a deflection because you don't have any actual answer! There's the difference, once again: slut literally means sex with multiple people. And it is more often than not used at such, sex-shaming or not, that's not what we're talking about right now. It's an insult, sure, but it … | /r/MensRights | 09/10/20 05:25 AM |
| 3 | Treatment Of "Incels" By SocietyNo, I've lived long enough to see how both words were used. That's the difference. incel is the new virgin, and was never solely summed up with "never had sex", that was only a single part of it. If you think virgin-shaming was only used towards virgin men, keep dreaming, it was way more common as an insult than this. | /r/MensRights | 09/10/20 05:05 AM |
| 4 | Treatment Of "Incels" By SocietyYou're absolutely missing the insult part of it. Virgin didn't just mean "that never had sex" back then. And the point there is to compare them as an insult. Have you never seen someone that had several relationships being called an incel because of some political opinions that goes against the usual opinion before? Because "being mean to women" in incredibly subjective and can include opinions about things like abortion, which has next to nothing to do with one's sexual past. Virgin wasn't alwa… | /r/MensRights | 09/10/20 04:59 AM |
| 1 | Treatment Of "Incels" By SocietyThe two are exactly the same when you think about it. It's just that one is explicit when it comes to sex; the other one hides it behind "social acceptance". That's about it. The virgins of 20 years ago would be the incels of today if they lived in the same society. Criminal groups aren't included in inclusivity, obviously. That's one of the biggest hypocrisy when it comes to defending something because of "free speech" by the way. Not that I'm defending this kind of talk, the reasons are obviou… | /r/MensRights | 09/10/20 04:42 AM |
| 4 | Treatment Of "Incels" By SocietyHate brings hate. Again, incel is the new "virgin". Add to that a whole new pseudo-progressive world that is progressive and yet discriminatory, where people pretend not to care about things like disabilities ,and everyone is worthy of love (which is nearly never applied when it comes to real life), and you get a lot of people angry at the hypocrisy, since they're essentially used as tokens to prove one's inclusivity but actions never follow. I've seen quite a lot of people in low-functioning au… | /r/MensRights | 09/10/20 03:11 AM |
| 2 | Hello! I’m a feminist joining the subreddit just to see some of the issues you all are being up.That's a lie. Well, anyway, don't try to sell it as "better for everyone". That's were the lie is. More accountability WILL be more painful for women. I'm not dismissing things like male abuse, but recognizing that, say, abuse can come from women (and women being less strong is usually an useless argument, since any weapon, even an improvised one like an heel, can change everything), and men can merely act in self-defense will make it harder for women to prove their own abuse. See where the diff… | /r/MensRights | 09/10/20 02:50 AM |
| 2 | Hello! I’m a feminist joining the subreddit just to see some of the issues you all are being up.This very sentence should give you an idea of the problem, honestly. If you're aware that what a man say will not be listened to (just so you know, we have a lot of active women in this sub so it's not exactly an issue of gender alone) it should already give you a pretty good idea of the problem. I'd even guess that you're already aware of it at some level. And yeah, sorry, but there are already been some ""attention whores"" here to look inclusive but leaving any time anything goes too far away… | /r/MensRights | 09/10/20 02:41 AM |
| 2 | Hello! I’m a feminist joining the subreddit just to see some of the issues you all are being up.I doubt it was a troll, but questioning things like the patriarchy is probably enough to make her think this sub is some kind of terrible space nazi gathering. | /r/MensRights | 09/10/20 02:34 AM |
| 2 | Hello! I’m a feminist joining the subreddit just to see some of the issues you all are being up.This was probably a joke first and foremost, we constantly get feminists here asking for things just for them to lose their shit and leave any time we say that any ""oppression"" isn't gendered (or worse, gendered against men instead of women but it's just being manipulated) or any time we don't agree with the big P word. | /r/MensRights | 09/10/20 02:20 AM |
| 2 | Hello! I’m a feminist joining the subreddit just to see some of the issues you all are being up.Not to mention, this usually means "not my feminism, until it is" which is the usual pattern when someone avoid examples and damn LAWS going against their worldviews that much... How's that as a sign of good faith. | /r/MensRights | 09/10/20 02:15 AM |
| 3 | Treatment Of "Incels" By SocietyNot shaming it would be a good start. But I guess you missed this part of the post completely, despite it being half of it. Punching bags are cool when you have low self-esteem, uh? And it actually is a societal problem, because it is about how people related to one another. Y'know, discrimination and stuff, just in cast the "ableist" in OP didn't make it clear for you. Ok, you don't know a thing about fat-shaming neither, good to know. Again, a good start would be to stop using it as an insult … | /r/MensRights | 09/10/20 01:54 AM |
| 1 | Hello! I’m a feminist joining the subreddit just to see some of the issues you all are being up.Easy cope out. The problem is that feminism does everything it can to void responsibilities, and encourages this mindset as well, because "freedom" (uh. Freemdom comes with responsibilities, and this includes the way you'll be judged for your actions). This is just applying it to a meta level. And this isn't even beneficial even for women in the end, because you don't grow up if you're always being told that you're a poor snowflake that is always right. It only encourages bad behaviour instead. … | /r/MensRights | 09/10/20 01:30 AM |
| 3 | Hello! I’m a feminist joining the subreddit just to see some of the issues you all are being up.You're assuming that the patriarchy ABSOLUTELY EXISTS. No matter who is at fault. That's the problem. It's effectively the same thing as the devil in a religion; an invisible thing you can only see the pretended effects of, and you deduce that it exists out of it, despite the fact that MAYBE reality is just more complicated than that, just like humans don't need a devil to act like jerks (and sorry if you're a believer, I'm not, hence the analogy). Assuming everything is because of a "patriarchy… | /r/MensRights | 09/10/20 01:09 AM |
| 6 | Hello! I’m a feminist joining the subreddit just to see some of the issues you all are being up.The real question is, how many time has it been discussed without using the word "patriarchy" or any rewording of it. Everyone is aware of the whole "it's because of the evil patriarchy's expectations of men!" or because "women are doing bad things because they're drunk on the patriarchy". That's the part that doesn't fly. Escaping any accountability using this, or suddenly making it an individual problem as opposed to the typical patriarchy rhetoric when it's a problem with a woman, which is a … | /r/MensRights | 09/10/20 12:44 AM |
| 1 | Hello! I’m a feminist joining the subreddit just to see some of the issues you all are being up.I'd just add, because most people forget this, that male abuse includes things like psychological abuse. Something forgotten way too often. | /r/MensRights | 09/10/20 12:27 AM |
| 24 | Treatment Of "Incels" By SocietyMore accurately, incel would be the new "virgin". But they can't call it that since some of the "tamer" progressives would notice the hypocrisy between "IT IS WRONG TO SEX-SHAME A WOMAN DEPENDING OF HER NUMBER OF PARTNER!!" and shaming someone by calling him a virgin; I actually seem to remember a time years and years ago, when "social justice" was still mostly limited to tumblr, where they still used virgin instead of incel; and it didn't work because of this specific reason. The word incel has… | /r/MensRights | 09/10/20 12:00 AM |
| 2 | A Dangerous Precendent - 16-year-old boy starts to grow breasts after being wrongfully prescribed to take estrogen.Treating "excess T" using estradiol is extremely weird in the first place. If anything, using an AA would be a tad more logical if it's just an "excess" problem and the goal is to normalize it without going too low and having negative effects ; they have more side-effects, but nothing that can't be dealt with, are safer and less feminizing, and not all AA are as hyper-agressive as, say, cypro, it'd be less outrageous than this (bica comes to mind). This looks like a wannabe mad scientist playing… | /r/MensRights | 07/10/20 11:46 PM |
| 1 | A Dangerous Precendent - 16-year-old boy starts to grow breasts after being wrongfully prescribed to take estrogen.Wouldn't that be stupid anyway in the first place, even if it wasn't so disgusting (it is, I just don't get this whole thing)? You need a massive amount of estrogen for it to have the intended effect without a strong anti-androgen along with it, particularly if you have an elevated T level. Sure, AA cause their own problems, but if done correctly it's probably less risky than this dose of estradiol, and are less feminizing. Even any trans DYI person would know that this is a complete joke. Where… | /r/MensRights | 07/10/20 11:38 PM |
| 18 | Pro choice for menStrangely enough, when you argue about this kind of things, "social constructs" are bad, but child support isn't considered a social construct. Somehow. Ok. | /r/MensRights | 07/10/20 10:54 PM |
| 5 | French gender pay gap will not end for another 1,000 years, new study suggests. But in the UK there is no pay gap at all between men and women under 40. Only when women have children do they earn less. As per the ONS, statistics office.Assuming that we will all still be alive in 1000 years is already quite a stretch, really. My first thought when seeing this was "ok, not only is this wage gap deal nonsense, but they're also trying to make it look like we can really make predictions 1000 years ahead when we're wrong when it comes to next week's weather. Sure". And people and journalists DID eat it up... Really. | /r/MensRights | 06/10/20 10:00 PM |
| 0 | The fact that a pregnant woman publicly and proudly announces that she'll abort her kid if it's a man makes my stomach turn inside outIt's always satire once too many answers are negative. "Just a joke". Try using the same "just a joke" argument towards women. Also, this is just one example, many people have seen multiple women seriously like that, and public figures are actually saying this kind of crap very seriously (see: alice coffin). | /r/MensRights | 06/10/20 09:52 PM |
| 1 | Alice Coffin, french feminist assumes her misandry and considers that "it's not enough to help each other, we need to eliminate them (men)".Only academics or people spending their life reading know about most theoretical frameworks in sociology as a whole. Which is both a good and a bad thing, good because there's a ton of crap that has no reason to exist and that people are more than willing to socially abuse in sociology, bad because by not knowing the details about what you're talking about, that's how you end up with terms like "toxic masculinity" (not that I was ok with the idea even in the first place, but still) being twisted… | /r/MensRights | 06/10/20 08:40 AM |
| 1 | Alice Coffin, french feminist assumes her misandry and considers that "it's not enough to help each other, we need to eliminate them (men)".That's the reference, yes. I guessed you'd know about it, there aren't a ton of french people randomly talking about french theory in france, ironically enough, I've pretty much only seen this in manosphere subs or comments. Although tabibian is interesting but also tend tend to always be extremely late when it comes to all feminism/sjw things. if not supportive or blind. | /r/MensRights | 06/10/20 08:15 AM |
| 1 | Alice Coffin, french feminist assumes her misandry and considers that "it's not enough to help each other, we need to eliminate them (men)".Particularly because he has a pretty weird way of seeing "justice". He was quite open against metoo, but only because he basically ALWAYS support heavily the criminal and would be able to tell everyone that the reason your wife killed you is because she's a poor victim; not because of feminism, that's just how he tends to be with everyone. Which kind of makes his perception of metoo etc worthless. People would just think that it's him thinking that a culprit shouldn't be punished either way. I t… | /r/MensRights | 05/10/20 10:52 PM |
| 1 | Alice Coffin, french feminist assumes her misandry and considers that "it's not enough to help each other, we need to eliminate them (men)".Well, she's usually saying the same kind of thing, she's actually one of the worst ones she can think about, so her saying that it's misandrist would severely ruin her own credibility as well. It's better to frame it as some kind of false flag operation or whatever else that has a political intent. | /r/MensRights | 05/10/20 10:45 PM |
| 1 | Alice Coffin, french feminist assumes her misandry and considers that "it's not enough to help each other, we need to eliminate them (men)".Ha non mais macron, le plus beau, c'est qu'il arrive à vouloir faire passer une loi voulant autoriser la PMA gratuite pour les femmes célibataires... Et quelques mois plus tard il prétend vouloir allonger le congé parental des pères, soi-disant parce qu'il a vu un pédiatre lui ayant expliqué que la présence des deux parents durant les premières années de l'enfant a un effet massif sur lui (même si le discours a très vite viré sur "non mais c'est parce que les mecs foutent rien" à la suite, dans … | /r/MensRights | 05/10/20 10:40 PM |
| 1 | Alice Coffin, french feminist assumes her misandry and considers that "it's not enough to help each other, we need to eliminate them (men)".Learning about this was actually quite sad. We're ultimately at fault for this and it was just sent back to us with an extra packaging. | /r/MensRights | 05/10/20 10:29 PM |
| 2 | Alice Coffin, french feminist assumes her misandry and considers that "it's not enough to help each other, we need to eliminate them (men)".Was it fourest (I think it was but I'd have to double-check) that pulled the big brain move of saying that "since 80% of women are victim of sexual assault, it means that 80% of mean are sexual assaulters" ? That was quite beautiful as well. Stupid statistics aside, but we're used to that, that's definitely how things would work even if her stats were right, yeah. sigh | /r/MensRights | 05/10/20 10:27 PM |
| 1 | Alice Coffin, french feminist assumes her misandry and considers that "it's not enough to help each other, we need to eliminate them (men)".Fourest said something right for once? Is the end of the world coming? For anyone unaware, fourest is usually spouting nonsense that isn't that different from this, she's essentially a joke for anyone knowing about france's ""feminism"". But I guess she's too blind to see when she "pander to antifeminists" herself. I guess even a broken clock is right twice a day. Of course some people think this kind of person should have a position of power. We have schiappa, remember? But yes, sadly enough th… | /r/MensRights | 05/10/20 10:23 PM |
| 1 | If she doesn’t want me during her prime, she doesn’t deserve me during her decline!Freedom of speech = permission for someone to tell that she's less attractive, in this poster's opinion, that she was before. And that's all fine. Nope, it wasn't, since it wasn't directed at her obviously without any reason. Well, you'd be right to say this about him. That's about it. That would be your opinion. It might be stupid for some people knowing how he looks right now, but it would be a worthwhile opinion as long as it isn't pure trolling and as long as you'd accept legitimate contradi… | /r/MensRights | 04/10/20 01:43 AM |
| 1 | If she doesn’t want me during her prime, she doesn’t deserve me during her decline!Celebrities are public people. that's part of the deal you make when agreeing to become a public person. Some people will use you for "good" purposes, others will use you for "bad purposes". That's how it is. It is very different from bullying. Saying "hey, [x] isn't attractive now that she's [x] years old" isn't bullying. You basically sold your public image at this point, that's how caricatures work in most countries anyway. Comparing a celebrity to a random high schooler is nonsense. Otherwis… | /r/MensRights | 04/10/20 12:58 AM |
| 1 | If she doesn’t want me during her prime, she doesn’t deserve me during her decline!This post is "rude" because you interpret it as something else than someone jut having their own preferences, disregarding however good or bad they are, in regard to aging and mate preferences. Simple as well. | /r/MensRights | 04/10/20 12:30 AM |
| 1 | If she doesn’t want me during her prime, she doesn’t deserve me during her decline!Probably, and they're not used to the fact that this board tend to be more serious. Not that it's a problem if they're not downright offensive, but I guess there are some "acclimation" problems here and there. Including some people that could explain their own viewpoint logically, but since you're not expected to do that in details in mgtow, they don't here even if it should be required. Well, I interpreted it more as being about desperation and entitlement but I guess it could be a point as wel… | /r/MensRights | 04/10/20 12:21 AM |
| 2 | If she doesn’t want me during her prime, she doesn’t deserve me during her decline!Men are, on average, more visual, or so I'm told but it's a legitimate preference no matter what. Therefore, it makes sense to use age variations to illustrate what you're attracted to/not attracted to no matter what. If the person decides that her beauty is what matters most, then it is what matters most. If you don't like it, don't date anyone thinking like that. Easy solution. The problem being that some men that find her less "attractive" (and I do think that if OP really wanted to find a pi… | /r/MensRights | 04/10/20 12:11 AM |
| 10 | I think you guys should see this,feminism really has the media thinking we’re anti-women’s rights or that we’re all white men or that we don’t accomplish anything.This absolutely disgusting,check out urban dictionary too.Anti-feminism, please. And this is a badge of honor. Still, at least have the honesty to stop trying to look like the victim that got insulted first as if you didn't provoke the whole community gratuitously, everything else is pretty much per the course so who cares. | /r/MensRights | 03/10/20 11:35 PM |
| 6 | If she doesn’t want me during her prime, she doesn’t deserve me during her decline!Yes, and no. I wonder why it is on this sub, but at the same time, I've seen enough women talking as if they were absolutely entitled to a relationship past their "fun years", calling the men menchildren or whatever else for not being attracted to them and dating younger, to know that it doesn't exactly come out of nowhere. It's an obvious response to people saying men your age are ""not true men"" or "menchildren" because they don't want you since they're just not attracted anymore (there actua… | /r/MensRights | 03/10/20 11:27 PM |
| 16 | I think you guys should see this,feminism really has the media thinking we’re anti-women’s rights or that we’re all white men or that we don’t accomplish anything.This absolutely disgusting,check out urban dictionary too."Facts". Yeah, sure. Yeah, let's forget the fact that you're essentially insulting the whole community to make you look like the victim here, shall we? | /r/MensRights | 03/10/20 11:17 PM |
| 3 | (Irish Times) Charity says ‘gender justice’ won’t happen until males share domestic responsibilities. Males need to be taught from the earliest age possible to do their fair share of housework and caregiving, a *men’s charity* has claimed. Also discusses fatherhood; male domestic violence, etc.Funnily enough, I'm probably seeing more men cooking, and even liking it, than women nowadays... Which is a great thing, at least you can be sure you're eating healthy. And the only situation where cleaning has been "problematic" regarding a man that I know was when the woman was a complete nutjob that seemed to think that you had to tidy everything up every single day even if it wasn't necessary at all and everything was still perfectly clean (usually followed by nobody finding anything anymore… | /r/MensRights | 03/10/20 12:43 AM |
| 1 | A soul lost. RIP - BBC News - Taku Sekine: Top chef 'takes own life' after assault allegationsBecause outside interferences absolutely don't have an influence on this, at all. This is stupid, and as a SA survivor you should know it very well. "It's usually their fault why they hate their life", yeah, sure. | /r/MensRights | 03/10/20 12:04 AM |
| 4 | Comments in thread about pregnant wife drinking alcohol defend wifeFun fact: france's former (promotion, not fired, of course) minister of equality between women and men used to be a 3rd-wave-feminist blogger and used to make tops... Including one about "the best alcohol to drink for women during pregnancy. And this person now has some country-level responsibilities now. Yeah. | /r/MensRights | 02/10/20 11:32 PM |
| 3 | Getting a bit tired of never seeing positive white men in adsThat's only true for western europe. In france our deaaar former minister of equality between women and men, that since then got a "promotion", did TV ads about harassment (you can guess how good it was purely by knowing she's a massive 3rd wave feminist and a former blogger making tops.. yeah). All of the evil harassers, women-beaters, etc = white men, at many ages, and the glorious heroes supporting and helping the young white woman that was harassed were "diverse". It's possibly true in easte… | /r/MensRights | 02/10/20 11:27 PM |
| 1 | Feminist find out who owns Onlyfans and they are not happy.To quote what I said somewhere about this: Feminists discover that they are nothing but useful idiots. WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT? Fun fact: if you look at the feminism reddit, some of them are against OF, but the majority approves it but still complain because "HAVING to do sex work to survive is OPPRESSIVE!" and it's also EXPLOITATIVE! Women have the right to have a choice about what the want to do to survive!!! And the same ones are making fun of men that are "jealous" of women for having an easy… | /r/MGTOW | 19/09/20 09:49 PM |
| 1 | TwoX post now saying that it is all men and that you can’t defend yourself at all because it’s “systemic” and that women are so helpless. Oh, and mods banned anyone that shares a different opinion/ doesn’t agree with this postThe funny part is, it's okay to talk about it there, because they're talking to women... But at the same time, doing everything you can to try to censor any male subreddit talking about male problems that isn't feminis-approved (in other words, the answer to EVERY SINGLE PROBLEM has to be "the patrairchy" and that's it) is okay. Not even just okay. It's encouraged. My place is okay because I'm just talking to my kind and it's okay if we're radicalized, but if you want a place to talk about your … | /r/MGTOW | 19/09/20 09:44 PM |
| 1 | TwoX post now saying that it is all men and that you can’t defend yourself at all because it’s “systemic” and that women are so helpless. Oh, and mods banned anyone that shares a different opinion/ doesn’t agree with this post"This is a women's subreddit for women's issues!!" therefore it's ok and right. In the meantime: "LET'S DO ANYTHING WE CAN TO CLOSE EVERY SINGLE SUBREDDIT TALKING ABOUT MALE ISSUES BECAUSE THEY'RE DIRTY MISOGYNISTS!! " What an ""argument"". | /r/MGTOW | 19/09/20 09:39 PM |
| 5 | Studies Show Lesbians Much More Likely to Beat, Sexually Abuse Their Wives Than Heterosexual MenPoe's law in full effect. The world has gone so stupid nowadays that the onion sometimes look more rational and more credible than reality. | /r/MensRights | 02/08/20 04:00 PM |
| 5 | Yes genocide is equal to bullyingWe're absolutely fine taking it . So let us dish it out as much as we want without crying and screaming MEESOGEENY or INCEL, or some variation of "SEE, OUR CULTURE IS OPPRESSIVE TOWARDS WOMEN!" Then we'll talk, but fair warning, women will lose any right to complain about this kind of joke then, and it'll affect feminism, that makes a living destroying peoples' life for jokes from 10 years ago, way more than it will affect the people throwing the sandwich line at people that are hypocritical reg… | /r/MensRights | 02/08/20 03:43 PM |
| 6 | Yes genocide is equal to bullyingNope. It's also a good answer to "man up" or basically anything double-standards related; in other words when a woman expect the man to follow "traditional gender roles" while not doing the same herself. In these situations, it's a fair shot. "I need to act like a man and do that? Sure, I'll do it. Then go in the kitchen immediately and make me that damn sandwich". | /r/MensRights | 02/08/20 03:37 PM |
| 1 | Are masks giving men a licence to leer? Women report a rise in 'aggressive eye contact' since face coverings became commonplace as an expert warns they 'provide anonymity' for threatening behaviour OP: Obviously nothing else to complain about.No need for it Even if this particular instance was false it'd still be true in the long run. In france staring at someone already is harassment, and the government made signs official signs about it, we didn't even need to wait for masks (and of course you can guess the gender of the "harasser" and in which side said "harassment" is not even considered). | /r/MensRights | 02/08/20 03:06 PM |
| 3 | Today French TV channels are honouring the death of the feminist activist who fought for women's rights. A right to slaughter the husband in any way possible, as she herself did. Unfortunately the laws were not accepted, so even in her death the fight continues.France is absolutely ridiculous when it comes to DV. The funnies part is schiappa now suddenly criticizing metoo abuse because of darmanin. Look like it's less about "feminism" than it is about keeping her job, uh? As always with modern feminism, feminism is just a vehicle they use to get power and have what they want via victimhood and that's it, it's nothing but a tool of dominance and if it somehow becomes a burden, suddenly their tune change completely. They (and I'm not just talking about f… | /r/MensRights | 02/08/20 02:41 PM |
| 1 | This post about behaviors that drove me to prefer single fatherhood was flagged as troll/satire. And I was permabanned from 'unpopularopinion' for "inceling". Did I say something that promotes hate speech against women or incel behavior? I'd appreciate honest comments, whether or not you agree.That's the point, "you can't commit to a woman therefore you can't commit to a kid"...? What? These two things are completely unrelated. Not to mention that one's dynamics with kids isn't the same as one's dynamics with a woman AT ALL. | /r/MensRights | 02/08/20 02:30 PM |
| 1 | The significance of Karen?That's memes for you. After a while they just completely lose their original meaning. How does being conservative even relate to typical karen behaviour, be it with men or women? | /r/MensRights | 02/08/20 02:28 PM |
| 1 | The significance of Karen?Feminism lie: "feminism is also about equality and thus is also here to help men". One line, game over. | /r/MensRights | 02/08/20 02:27 PM |
| 1 | The significance of Karen?Just create a karen equivalent for men and we're set, nobody cares. It's not sexist, it's just that feminists and other idiots aren't smart enough to understand that a name resonate more within people than pseudo-sociological concepts no one believes in and no one cares about. But a male karen equivalent would be fine. It's just CONSIDERABLY harder to do. Karen is the caricature of the toxic woman. Thing is, men are caricatured as a whole. So if you create a male karen, let's say jay, he would h… | /r/MensRights | 02/08/20 02:23 PM |
| 2 | The significance of Karen?Not to mention that there are words like that for men; they're just not names, and that's it. That's the genius of the "karen" meme in a way; it practically created a fictional character in everyone's head that has its own life and story, making it easier for everyone to relate to and easier to make fun of since it's fictional anyway. Karen practically has her own existence now, making it extremely effective in order to pass a message, just like chad or whatever else, which also makes it a lot e… | /r/MensRights | 02/08/20 02:19 PM |
| 1 | Why is that barely anyone talks about how some women believe that they can treat men any way they want to simply because they have their own money and a nice body?It's just freedom and individualism going horribly wrong. Which is particularly common in the current generation. Freedom without morality results in terrible and self-centered things. Add to that the "empowerment" message and people constantly finding excuse for women, and you end up with people with an incredibly screwed education thinking that being free means being free to be jerks without caring about stupid things like respect or the social contract. When ou start thinking that freedom is … | /r/MensRights | 02/08/20 02:07 PM |
| 1 | This post about behaviors that drove me to prefer single fatherhood was flagged as troll/satire. And I was permabanned from 'unpopularopinion' for "inceling". Did I say something that promotes hate speech against women or incel behavior? I'd appreciate honest comments, whether or not you agree.Its like, if you are a straight guy, you have not found a female you want to commit and devote to, how you think you magically will do it for kids? What nonsense am I reading right here, seriously... That's some kind of heavily twisted logic. | /r/MensRights | 02/08/20 01:55 PM |
| 2 | This post about behaviors that drove me to prefer single fatherhood was flagged as troll/satire. And I was permabanned from 'unpopularopinion' for "inceling". Did I say something that promotes hate speech against women or incel behavior? I'd appreciate honest comments, whether or not you agree.Thank god someone said this. This whole "you should always turn the other cheek" is a big part of the problem. It only benefits the one that don't care about respect and can act immorality with impunity. Not to mention that it encourage seeing men as free targets, which will indeed lead into more women learning that they can benefit from it while growing up, since they've seen since their youth that because men try to be the "bigger people", they'll just ignore any terrible behaviour and shut up… | /r/MensRights | 02/08/20 01:42 PM |
| 11 | Yes genocide is equal to bullyingThat's the funny part. She acts as if they just accepted the "kitchen" joke so "killallmen" is fine as well as some kind of mirror. Which is ridiculous since they lose their mind at the slightest joke at a woman's expense anyway, so it's not like "we're fine with jokes, so deal with it as dell" even works as an argument. | /r/MensRights | 02/08/20 12:52 PM |
| 9 | Yes genocide is equal to bullyingOh the irony. Also, nice victimhood card. And keep your 'man up' to yourself and stop being pathetic. | /r/MensRights | 02/08/20 12:49 PM |
| 10 | Yes genocide is equal to bullyingNot to mention that she acts as if they didn't lose their shit every time they hear that and as if they just accepted the joke. Uh. Nope. | /r/MensRights | 02/08/20 12:45 PM |
| 1 | The actual post is disgusting, but the comments make me feel physically ill. If you look at the comments, I would like to remind you that men are often criticised for being sexist.I"m not from the US, so we probably don't have the same "conservatives" so to say. It might have something to do with it. Yeah, that's what I don't get. It wouldn't justify anything... And yet people are somehow obsessed by that. | /r/MensRights | 22/07/20 09:14 AM |
| 2 | Not all female video game characters are weakDon't ask me, I'm not the one making the argument. | /r/MensRights | 21/07/20 09:10 AM |
| 1 | So, how do I debunk the fact that a "rape culture" exists to a male friend of mine that thinks that it does?Doesn't really apply in this case. If you're not good at debating it's easy to see why OP is rather lost. His friend is literally reducing one of humanity's most common behavior, tribalism, to a single, isolated case of its effects (without caring about the fact that it means that we live in an "anti-rape culture" and a "false accusation culture" as well). It's pretty easy to get lost when someone is using arguments that don't follow any kind of logic against you. You can't deny that some people… | /r/MensRights | 21/07/20 01:49 AM |
| 1 | So, how do I debunk the fact that a "rape culture" exists to a male friend of mine that thinks that it does?The weird part is considering this "rape culture" in the first place, since it happens with pretty much every crime. That's a tribalism issue between close ones if you're talking about friends specifically, not a "rape culture" issue. What the hell. People sometimes act immorally to defend their close ones, how many people never said anything about, say, abusive women despite knowing that they abuse others? What about people not saying anything about a false accusation of rape a friend of them m… | /r/MensRights | 21/07/20 01:44 AM |
| 2 | Found this in a children's magazineIt's not. Or rahter, manspreading isn't a real issue. Now, incivility, that's another discussion. But this and manspreading are two different things, and it's just the usual feminist tactic of taking a societal issue and making it gendered. | /r/MensRights | 21/07/20 01:35 AM |
| 3 | Is the feminist goal complete equality with men or special treatment for women b/c men are allegedly inherently violent?The long term goal is complete equality. As long as complete equality doesn't exist, the short term goal is often special treatment to protect women from violence. Sounds good to me, as long as we don't forget that women sometimes abuse men as well. The validity of your argument aside, things only really start to get messy because a perfect equality will never, ever happen, so waiting for this to be the case to deal with men's problems is nothing but a smokescreen. Even moreso now since they're … | /r/MensRights | 21/07/20 01:15 AM |
| 4 | Is the feminist goal complete equality with men or special treatment for women b/c men are allegedly inherently violent?Anyone thinking that men are "inherently violent or abusive" or whatever has never been with any of my exes. They managed to change a genuinely pathological problem-solver into someone not giving a single damn thanks to violence and abuse every time you try to be the adult one and solve things in an adult manner, using communication. Anyway, back to the subject. What you're talking about is feminism 101, they constantly use a motte-and-balley fallacy. It's pretty much feminism 101 once you're us… | /r/MensRights | 21/07/20 01:02 AM |
| 2 | The actual post is disgusting, but the comments make me feel physically ill. If you look at the comments, I would like to remind you that men are often criticised for being sexist.FDS bothers me way less than twitter personally, twitter is what every 10 years old nowadays will constantly see. FDS... It's already hopeless anyway. Yeah. If anything, we should be thankful for FDS, it exposes the usual nonsense without you having to have a twitter account or without having to look for it. It's quite convenient to have someone doing the work for you. | /r/MensRights | 21/07/20 12:55 AM |
| 2 | Increased awareness in Gen ZWell, one is probably a result of the other. Metoo is to thank for this, feminists definitely overplayed their hand with this one and the only reason it's still alive is because of the support from the medias and the government. It opened the eyes of a lot of men forcefully, despite them absolutely not wanting to open them. | /r/MensRights | 21/07/20 12:47 AM |
| 0 | Not all female video game characters are weakThe good old deal of characters they don't like not counting because they're attractive and rely on the "male gaze" too much, like samus and her suit that follows her curves too much. Because of course sexualization in video games is the devil (and is always used to move the goalpost) and it's not video games characters as a whole that are sexualized, men included. Where do we start the petition to make male main character in women's romance novels short and ugly? Also, remake tifa, hypersexuali… | /r/MensRights | 21/07/20 12:43 AM |
| 3 | Not all female video game characters are weakLook like these people never played RPG. Well, I doubt they'd even know what it means anyway. And it's not even a "recent" thing, some of the biggest classics like FF6 had two women as "main characters". | /r/MensRights | 21/07/20 12:38 AM |
| 2 | The actual post is disgusting, but the comments make me feel physically ill. If you look at the comments, I would like to remind you that men are often criticised for being sexist.You're missing an extremely important part of your own post; the fact that it exposes a blatant double standard when it comes to sexism. This is just one example of it but the core idea is still extremely common. This post would be fine and a mere joke if saying the same thing on twitter wouldn't get you mass reported and banned because "misogyny". This may be a FDS post, but the original picture doesn't come from FDS. | /r/MensRights | 21/07/20 12:31 AM |
| 2 | The actual post is disgusting, but the comments make me feel physically ill. If you look at the comments, I would like to remind you that men are often criticised for being sexist.What I never understood is, let's say that it is a choice, which I could probably debate with since I believe more into the kinsey scale than anything else, which would probably be equally offensive to everyone except bi people. It still doesn't help the ones using this argument, that are more often than not using it as an homophobic argument, since... why would one of these "choices" not be legitimate if you leave religion and any other dogma out of the equation? How does it helps when you're t… | /r/MensRights | 20/07/20 11:23 PM |
| 1 | The actual post is disgusting, but the comments make me feel physically ill. If you look at the comments, I would like to remind you that men are often criticised for being sexist.A book not just as something to trigger your thinking but as a proof when it comes to proving some real-world issue? Really? Now don't get me wrong books can totally make you think about a ton of things and teach you a lot, even 100% fictional novel, but in this context it seems quite out of place, I can write a novel about cats building a more evolved civilization than humans tomorrow if I want to. That's not the way books can be used to prove things. | /r/MensRights | 20/07/20 11:12 PM |
| 2 | The actual post is disgusting, but the comments make me feel physically ill. If you look at the comments, I would like to remind you that men are often criticised for being sexist.Well, if she dislikes men so much, I'm pretty sure no one will miss her, so more power to her. | /r/MensRights | 20/07/20 11:09 PM |
| 4 | Holy shit the comments on this post, another reason MRAs are necessary.Because it's still mutilation and you being fine with it doesn't change that fact, and because this ""argument"" is extremely ego-centered and can be summed up by "I'm fine with it so whatever, it's fine to do it to everyone!". Don't expect empathy from others when you aren't showing any in the first place and come from a totally ego-centered point of view. You might not like the word mutilation but it still is mutilation, even if it's a mutilation you personally liked somehow. | /r/MensRights | 20/07/20 11:07 PM |
| 3 | Holy shit the comments on this post, another reason MRAs are necessary.People here aren't speaking for you. They're speaking for other people that aren't you. Again if you ant it done as an adult it's your choice. The problem is forcing it on children. | /r/MensRights | 20/07/20 11:03 PM |
| 3 | Holy shit the comments on this post, another reason MRAs are necessary.Stop using words you obviously don't understand like body shaming. People only have a problem with cut people when cut people try to argue that "yeah, but for me...!" in order to justify it being done to others, which is ego-centered to a ridiculous point. If a man want to be cut once he's an adult for some reason, more power to him. The problem is doing this to a child that can't consent. "I'm fine with it, therefore it isn't a problem and calling it what it is and talking about how it shouldn'… | /r/MensRights | 20/07/20 10:54 PM |
| 1 | If Will Smith had cheated on Jada the internet would crucify him, but since it was the other way around people are making fun of him.The hypocrisy in this comment is outstanding. "Life not being fair" is fine when it's circumstances out of anyone's control, not when things are being willingly controled for it to be this way. Otherwise, let's just get rid of the law altogether so that everyone can have a taste of this "unfairness", it'll be a fun experiment. | /r/MensRights | 15/07/20 08:31 PM |
| 1 | Stop asking men why they aren’t getting married.The wording is incredibly weird. "When they are getting pregnant"? Isn't it usually "when you will finally have kids"? I've never heard someone asking about "when you'll get pregnant". I'd say that maybe it's because of language differences, but the "when will you finally have a kid" also seem more common in english-speaking countries. And this usually comes mostly from older people or mothers that think that you HAVE to have kids to be happy, or from people trying to make small talk are default… | /r/MensRights | 09/07/20 11:02 AM |
| 2 | MRA YouTuber just got stabbed and his throat sliced for being a white manThe problem being that even if you just say that it is sometimes weaponized this way and it needs to be addressed, you're a fascist "not thinking about the victims". I always love the "yeah but it's just a few exceptions that are nutcases". Same deal as feminists. Even if this assessment is true, and it's debatable, it doesn't mean much when the silent majority doesn't do the crime itself but still defends the nutcase afterward. If pointing out problems that need to be corrected in BLM automatic… | /r/MensRights | 05/07/20 11:19 AM |
| 1 | It is traumatic to read such idiotic posts. I suffer from ASD and other things but I cannot bear to see these ninnies shit upon the facebook support groups.To be fair, facebook "asperger" groups are among the worst ones you'll find. Between the ones thinking that the whole world should adapt to them, and yet don't accept to make ANY effort, and the ones blaming any NT that DARES to complain even a little bit, even without being disrespectful, about some bad tendencies of immature aspies, it's always quite a read. Asperger groups on facebook, more often than not, are of the "i'm the center of the world and I'm free to make others adapt to me, but I … | /r/MGTOW | 05/07/20 02:33 AM |
| 8 | Anyone else has a problem with how girls keep saying how they are single for a long time, but they have fuck buddy and that doesnt count?We have absolutely no "instinct" when it comes to how to socially behave and have to learn it (which can take some time but is certainly doable; I'm pretty sure I'd count as charismatic when talking about something, but this took a lot of work and suicide attempts over the years because things just DIDN'T make sense. Until it did even if it's a bit tiring to "translate" things constantly. But it can be done and funnily enough once you get rid of any doubt you have you even look confident, which … | /r/MGTOW | 05/07/20 02:05 AM |
| 25 | Anyone else has a problem with how girls keep saying how they are single for a long time, but they have fuck buddy and that doesnt count?I'm not even sure about that, honestly. Given the experience I've had with autistic women, including the ones that said they were "severe" but were among the most... "liberal and hedonistic" sex-wise by a long shot, sensory overload be damned if they decide it is (severe, at least as long as it gave them the right to make no efforts at all behaviour-wise I guess, despite them being WAY more social than me in my youth when it was quite something, before I HAD to learn how the world works and make… | /r/MGTOW | 05/07/20 01:37 AM |
| 1 | Simps are good, Bullying men is good, but its not my fault that im a bully its my 'InTeRnALiSeD mISoGiNy'Don't worry, they'll find an excuse for that. Probably some kind of mans-[something]. | /r/MensRights | 05/07/20 01:05 AM |
| 1 | Simps are good, Bullying men is good, but its not my fault that im a bully its my 'InTeRnALiSeD mISoGiNy'Or it's just because, even outside of 12 years old, this double standard respect-wise is becoming more and more obvious for a ton of people (thank you feminism, it would have been harder to make other people see reality and the constant double-standards towards men if you didn't do so much crap the last years/decades). Which seems a lot more likely to me. The fact that people, including men, will behave better towards a woman isn't a new one and didn't wait for our current generation of 12 y.o. … | /r/MensRights | 05/07/20 12:18 AM |
| 1 | Simps are good, Bullying men is good, but its not my fault that im a bully its my 'InTeRnALiSeD mISoGiNy'Of course. If it's a woman it's classified as abuse, y'know? | /r/MensRights | 05/07/20 12:14 AM |
| 1 | Simps are good, Bullying men is good, but its not my fault that im a bully its my 'InTeRnALiSeD mISoGiNy'Sadly enough, it isn't limitd to women they want to date, that's just one particular kind of simp, the "trying to get in your pants" one (what they themelves used to call nice guys before, ironically enough. Looks like a nice role reversal happened. Well I guess it's only a problem is the man is aware that he's being nice since it means he won't accept victimization). A ton of simps if not the majority is just more respectful towards anyone with two X chromosomes. Because women are just wiser an… | /r/MensRights | 05/07/20 12:12 AM |
| 1 | Simps are good, Bullying men is good, but its not my fault that im a bully its my 'InTeRnALiSeD mISoGiNy'Definitely true, I've been arguing with nutcases like that from time to time, and the "simps are just respectful people" they see in their blind ego-trip is a common thing that I've seen going viral not so long ago... | /r/MensRights | 05/07/20 12:08 AM |
| 1 | Simps are good, Bullying men is good, but its not my fault that im a bully its my 'InTeRnALiSeD mISoGiNy'Oh look, this "it's not normal to call men "respecting" women simps" again. Yet again feminists avoiding looking at what they don't want to see. These men are more often than not called "simps" because they wouldn't respect a man in the same way and idolize women/put them obn a pedestal / turn them into the perfect and 100% pure victim constantly/whatever. What defines a simp is that he's NOT a person that is nice to everyone and will not be as nice with a man telling him the same story and he'l… | /r/MensRights | 05/07/20 12:05 AM |
| 2 | It's very easy to include male victims of "made-to-penetrate" rapes in the law. The French recently did it. There is no excuse....depending of your social statut. | /r/MensRights | 04/07/20 02:06 PM |
| 1 | Humor mixed in with truth? Good points the middle section throws me off a bit. (Discussion)As I said above, female privilege and women being worth more, which is a leftover of the fact that women are more valuable. Also, women-are-wonderful effect, which you could argue could be related to TM in its "men have to protect women" way, but it's unrelated to most aspects of TM like dominance. And is in any case unrelated to men not opening up, which has a ton of other reasons than gender roles and opening up being "girly". Nothing to do with men "having to fit gender roles" and the pressur… | /r/MensRights | 03/07/20 01:03 PM |
| 1 | Humor mixed in with truth? Good points the middle section throws me off a bit. (Discussion)No, not because they're punished based on their gender roles, you keep bringing gender roles into this. You're the one making a religion out of it. Punished because of a legal discrimination, where the lack of a deterrent and the absence of punishment make some bad behaviour more common than others (which ironically enough is enforced by feminists). Not everyone think EVERYTHING is gender roles like you do, and even the real world, in fact, is not as obsessed by them as you. Things have others e… | /r/MensRights | 03/07/20 12:50 PM |
| 1 | Humor mixed in with truth? Good points the middle section throws me off a bit. (Discussion)"In the social sciences, toxic masculinity refers to traditional cultural masculine norms that can be harmful to men, women, and society overall; this concept of toxic masculinity is not intended to demonize men or male attributes, but rather to emphasize the harmful effects of conformity to certain traditional masculine ideal behaviors such as dominance, self-reliance, and competition.[8][9] Toxic masculinity is thus defined by adherence to traditional male gender roles that consequently stigma… | /r/MensRights | 03/07/20 12:26 PM |
| 1 | Humor mixed in with truth? Good points the middle section throws me off a bit. (Discussion)Yep. The problem isn't "men should open up" or "men shouldn't open up". It's that you need to be aware that if someone use it to ruin your life, you will not have the luxury of it being called abuse. So be careful about it even if you trust the person and more importantly about who you trust. Although I dislike therapists (not helped by the fact that psychology is a COMPLETE joke in my country; psychology is a great thing that is extremely interesting to study, but the people practicing it and t… | /r/MensRights | 03/07/20 12:21 PM |
| 1 | Humor mixed in with truth? Good points the middle section throws me off a bit. (Discussion)Seems like you're the one not understanding "toxic masculinity" to me?. Toxic masculinity assumes that the problem is men adhering to "traditional gender roles". Nothing here is about that. Traditional gender roles for men could be to talk about their problem 24/7, men still wouldn't open up here. Because it has nothing to do with gender roles, and everything to do with not giving a loaded gun to someone, gender roles or not. If anything the only thing you can make it related to is female privil… | /r/MensRights | 03/07/20 12:05 PM |
| 1 | Humor mixed in with truth? Good points the middle section throws me off a bit. (Discussion)That's called a rational choice. If I'm talking to an NPD, I'm not going to disclose him my full life story just so that he can use it. Gender roles aren't relevant. The law being biased is relevant. But men definitely musn't open up as long as it's not used against them anymore. And that'es everything but a "man" problem. Against, this so-called "toxic masculinity" is a rational choice and shouldn't be fixed by men opening up, which just makes things worse. | /r/MensRights | 03/07/20 11:46 AM |
| 1 | Humor mixed in with truth? Good points the middle section throws me off a bit. (Discussion)"Toxic masculinity" isn't a thing, and patriarchy isn't a thing. Men aren't "put into men shaped boxes where they don't have the right to cry". They decide for themselves that they will not cry as a rational choice to protect themselves. Because while a man using a woman's insecurities against her is emotional abuse and manipulation, which serves as a deterrent, against a man it's seen as something absolutely fair to do. Men aren't put "into boxes". They're willingly putting themselves into boxe… | /r/MensRights | 03/07/20 11:36 AM |
| 1 | Humor mixed in with truth? Good points the middle section throws me off a bit. (Discussion)Right. I have an hard time understanding hhow one can defend this victim-blaming nonsense while thinking they're "progressive" or "fair" or "non-sexist" or whatever. Actually when it comes to men, talking about your problem often make things worse, because while there is a societal stigma against using a woman's words and emotions against her (which is called being manipulative by using a woman's depression, or whatever else) there is none of this when it comes to men. It's the opposite, shootin… | /r/MensRights | 03/07/20 11:21 AM |
| 1 | Humor mixed in with truth? Good points the middle section throws me off a bit. (Discussion)No. "Not cring" is a choice. Not made because of "masculinity", but because it's the only rational choice to make in a biased society. Shaem is the least of a man's worries when it comes to this. | /r/MensRights | 03/07/20 11:07 AM |
| 1 | Humor mixed in with truth? Good points the middle section throws me off a bit. (Discussion)It's not "a taboo". It's something used against them because for all their "privileges", it's fair to attack a man on anything and you will not be considered manipulative for using his mental state against him. Which is ironically related to the female privilege of using this. Society is a problem because abuse towards men isn't recognized. Humans learn through punishment. If something has no deterrent, people will do it more often. That's it. Men don't "have an hard time being the person that h… | /r/MensRights | 03/07/20 10:56 AM |
| 1 | Humor mixed in with truth? Good points the middle section throws me off a bit. (Discussion)Disagree wit the "make fun of". It's not the main problem. The main problem is that the men are free target and don't get sympathy, and thus there is nothing stopping others (particularly women, since it's quite common in relationships) to stop what a man talks about against him. Men "opening up" is a false good option, it's not something to do if men don't get the same sympathy as women, and it's not about looking "effeminate" or whatever else; this is just one way of using the weakness one sho… | /r/MensRights | 03/07/20 10:42 AM |
| 1 | "We have to stop holding women accountable for their own safety" - Feminist MP - Sounds like men's role is 'protect and provide' to me.Sure, and I'd really love a world without world hunger, where everyone (women included of course although that's a given since to this person women are probably angels that are always nice and if they're not, they're right not to be) is nice to each others, world peace, enough ressources for everyone without ruining the planet, a world where everyone can have everything it wants, etc... That's the problem with these people. No, the world isn't fair (and it's not a gendered thing), and it will ne… | /r/MensRights | 03/07/20 09:57 AM |
| 1 | Misandrist homophobic "gay" man calls the majority, if not all, of men "abusive misogynistic rapists", claims male sexuality is "degenerate and obsessive" by default, and bashes gay menBeat me. Ironically enough, I started to think that the "moral" centre ground is probably the one not thinking about being "good" too much, I've seen the results of people thinking they're being nice while being destructive way too much and it's not pretty. but then again I'm an utilitarian that just happen to think that you should treat others well, not because "we're all nice, everyone is equel, yipeeeeeeeeeeee" but because it's the only way to have a somewhat stable society for yourself, with… | /r/MensRights | 03/07/20 12:57 AM |
| 1 | Female Smash pro player rapes 14 year old boy -> feminists Tweet about how "the majority" of people who "prey upon women and youth" are menWhat Seii said, and are you seriously going to pretend that domestic abuse towards women is as ignored as rape towards men? You would have kind of a point if the two things were equal society-wise. They aren't. So it's no wonder men feel the need to talk about it since society as a whole make it look like male abuse doesn't exist. It's one hell of a false equivalency. DV towards women DEFINITELY isn't something ignored. Female rape towards men is. | /r/MensRights | 02/07/20 06:16 PM |
| 2 | Gaslighting red flags -- common experience?Bitch or not, gaslighting is a very specific thing that isn't really the same as just "bitch behaviour,, and the problem is that you usually don't notice it when you're in the middle of it. So no dumping her ass until you're already in the middle of it. It's basically eroding one's trust in its own perceptions and mind so much that you don't trust your reality and what you know/think anymore, "because you've been mistaken so often" (you weren't). That's why it's particularly vicious. You don't n… | /r/MensRights | 02/07/20 06:04 PM |
| 5 | Gaslighting red flags -- common experience?Bingo! What did I win? I liked the "assign motives to your actions", in one situation apparently I was manipulative because I said a "damn, I forgot to turn off my phone" when I got woken up by a call from her at 3 AM (and was thus a bit grumpy, half-asleep and talking to myself) which snowballed, REALLY hard, into a complete mess since it was apparently some kind of thing I couldn't say without trying to control the other person.... Okay? From the same person that had been doing a perfect for e… | /r/MensRights | 02/07/20 10:07 AM |
| 4 | Anyone remember that brief period around 2010 - 2013 when there were all these puff pieces on campus “hookup culture”? Crazy to think “Me Too” is a direct result of thatWomen have no choice but to participate? Sure, sure, everyone believe this. This being said, it's true that, despite women enforcing it like no other, hookup culture was a stupid move that was detrimental for women way more than it is for men. Lowering the value of sex is always going to benefit the side it carries the less risks for. And when you make it easier for men to get ONS without even having to give his real name, while the woman is still at risk of pregnancy... Congrats on this sexual … | /r/MensRights | 01/07/20 08:37 PM |
| 8 | What are the main goals of 4th wave feminism in your opinion?I'd put it in one word: "freedom". The problem being that they want ABSOLUTE freedom, not freedom in the context of a working society. That's the point of things like safe spaces: "I am FREE to ask for all of society to change in order to avoid hearing anything triggering me even if I'm at fault". So absolute freedom in a way that I could only qualify as divine or something like that (above everything else, to put it shortly) at the expense of absolutely everyone else; including other women if t… | /r/MensRights | 01/07/20 08:27 PM |
| 34 | Female Smash pro player rapes 14 year old boy -> feminists Tweet about how "the majority" of people who "prey upon women and youth" are menIt's even easier than that. No matter what she "wanted to say", just try to say a "well, it's sad for her, but most abusers are women" as an answer to a woman abused by her husband. For people constantly crying about how "MRA always hijack our talks about the problems women face, they have no compassion for the victim", they sure love to talk about the other side randomly and when it fits them, no matter how it could "belittle" the victim's experience or not. | /r/MensRights | 01/07/20 08:15 PM |
| 1 | Female Dating Strategy... they will never be happy.consistency is a tool of the patriarchy. Stealing it, thanks. | /r/MGTOW | 01/07/20 08:05 PM |
| 1 | Saying you want actual equality obviously means you want to hit womenIt's just basically them playing on the fact that having the word "hit" and "woman" in the same sentence is an automatic societal taboo, and enforcing the conditioning everyone always go through. And skipping the context only make it that much more effective. The real target of these words isn't the people they're talking to, it's the audience reading this conversation and having a knee-jerk reaction when reading her tweet that skips the context and thus feel like they "have to" defend her. Not … | /r/MensRights | 01/07/20 11:01 AM |
| 3 | Saying you want actual equality obviously means you want to hit womenBecause they always conveniently leave it out to avoid looking like absolute idiots. Instead, they rely on the automatic "muh hitting women = bad, no need for context" reaction that most people will automatically have. That's where the "everything you think about is how you have the right to hit a woman when you think about equality, you're misogynistic" comes from, by carefully avoiding to quote the context you play on people's sentimentality and conditioning, by making yourself look like the v… | /r/MensRights | 01/07/20 10:51 AM |
| 7 | I am a feminist, and I always thought feminism fought for Men’s Rights as well.Victimhood culture is great. Now, rather than truly "empowered" people, we live in a world where being afraid is great and courage (which, I admit, can also become foolishness so that's an issue, and it is in fact a pretty big one with people not being cautious enough because "yeah but people shouldn't have the right to do that so I'm fine"... ) is bad. What. | /r/MensRights | 30/06/20 08:59 PM |
| 5 | I am a feminist, and I always thought feminism fought for Men’s Rights as well.The big problem is that feminists pretend that it's a SOCIETAL problem. No, it's not. It's cause and effect. just like everything else in this world. And the cause isn't necessarily "a patriarchy filled with gender roles". That's a convenient way to stop looking at how you enable it even when you pretend to fight against these gender roles. Even if we're not talking about serious shaming or use of gender roles against men, I doubt the "male tears" mugs you'll often see from feminists are doing m… | /r/MensRights | 30/06/20 08:54 PM |
| 1 | I am a feminist, and I always thought feminism fought for Men’s Rights as well.The problem being that internalized misogyny" as it's almost always used most definitely isn't "toxic femininity". Or supporting men's rights is toxic femininity now, since it's when it's used most often; when a woman is defending men or talking about the double standards and the fact that no one can have it all. | /r/MensRights | 30/06/20 08:43 PM |
| 5 | I am a feminist, and I always thought feminism fought for Men’s Rights as well.Gender role is a really convenient excuse. They exist for a reason. Thing is, this reason implies that women must police their own behaviour as well if it's problematic for other people, and that's something feminists absolutely won't accept. When one talks about "slut pride", who cares about whether the other side is bothered by seeing someone more than half-naked constantly? oh right, this person is then just a prude, because your rights and freedom > the rights and freedom of someone else not… | /r/MensRights | 30/06/20 08:21 PM |
| 4 | Justin Bieber Files $20 Million Defamation Lawsuit Against Women Who Accused Him Of Sexual AssaultIt is the start of a year where more men will like JB than women. 2020 TRULY is one heck of a weird year that is full of surprises. | /r/MensRights | 29/06/20 01:26 AM |
| 2 | Probably a repost but this needs to be said regardless. Men are not sponsors, they’re not walking banks. They’re human beings who are not entitled to give what isn’t reciprocated in a relationship.Yeah, not saying you're wrong, as I said, this answer came out-of-nowhere to me as well, even if it's a woman chameleoning the message is still legitimate so as long as the focus isn't how wonderful it is just for HER to say this... Pointing it out is kinda stupid. I can get why one could get suspicious though, particularly regarding a post on twitter that the person felt the need to pin, no less, just to make it stand out. Doesn't change the message though, and if the message is good, just igno… | /r/MensRights | 29/06/20 01:22 AM |
| 2 | Spain: PSOE (ruling party) removes gay men and this Pride celebrates "LTB women"It is. It's all nice and all, until one group starts seeing the other as having any kind of advantage or starts being frustrated (less so with gay men, who mostly don't have any right to complain, because patriarchy so they only have the right to complain against straight, white males, who sometimes aren't even the ones that they have a problem with). Then human nature just comes back with a vengeance and you see that they're just as full of resentment as anyone else, as long as they can't use t… | /r/MensRights | 29/06/20 12:08 AM |
| 7 | Spain: PSOE (ruling party) removes gay men and this Pride celebrates "LTB women"As a general thing, MtF are hated by lesbians, etc (I can't count the number of "they are fake lesbians and are just men stealing our girlfriends" that I've seen...) and FtM are at best ignored, at worst hated for being a "traitor" and getting the same treatment as men. Bi are also the "sluts" of the LGBT, hated because they can't just settle down and choose. All of this might not be obvious immediatly, but it becomes visible when the interests of one category go against the interests of another… | /r/MensRights | 28/06/20 11:47 PM |
| 2 | Probably a repost but this needs to be said regardless. Men are not sponsors, they’re not walking banks. They’re human beings who are not entitled to give what isn’t reciprocated in a relationship.Nothing wrong with being skeptical since it's way too easy to be pro-MRA as long as it's useful just to change your tune once you can gain some advantage out of it; that's the problem when doing a 180° against men rights is seen as "empowerment", anything said doesn't have an absolute long-term value if it doesn't involve a sacrifice from the woman. That's why chameleon is the automatic answer, too many virtue-signaling people doing a 180° any time it's useful to them. This being said, and that'… | /r/MensRights | 28/06/20 02:21 PM |
| 4 | Erm WTF is this?!You'd be surprised by the number of people (particularly women having weird delusions about how a penis works) thinking like them, so apparently a lot of women skipped 8th grade. I was shocked when many of my exes actually "learned" way late into their life that no, erections are not on command and don't always mean "horny" or whatever. The "wet != consent" went into their head, anything else not about themselves completely went above it though. | /r/MensRights | 28/06/20 02:17 PM |
| 3 | Misandrist homophobic "gay" man calls the majority, if not all, of men "abusive misogynistic rapists", claims male sexuality is "degenerate and obsessive" by default, and bashes gay menAnd yet even in europe our sjw are mostly leftist and defended by the left. You know you can be a leftist and yet still see this problem in the left, specifically because they're corrupting the "good" left and have more political power nowadays than the actual left (thanks, 90% of the world trying to import their culture and problems from the usa despite the countries having different cultures and histories), right? Sadly, it's not an USA-only problem anymore, and the ones approving and copying … | /r/MensRights | 28/06/20 03:25 AM |
| 5 | Probably a repost but this needs to be said regardless. Men are not sponsors, they’re not walking banks. They’re human beings who are not entitled to give what isn’t reciprocated in a relationship.Girls being the keyword here. Since given this way of thinking, and no matter their age, it's quite likely that these people are spoiled brats and not grown women. Also, I'd add that reciprocation isn't limited to finances. If you're not treated as well as you treat her and she doesn't show you as much respect as you are showing her, it's not "your duty as a man" to deal with it. Particularly not if it's there's any excuse involved to give you some "responsibility"(I can't count the number of "y… | /r/MensRights | 28/06/20 03:10 AM |
| 3 | Correct me if I’m wrong, but I’m sure I have read several studies/articles stating that men are at a risk of getting assaulted equally. What do you guys think about such guys?This guy is in for a rude awakening once he discovers that the ones being assaulted aren't "attractive people", but "people that seem vulnerable, no matter the gender" first and foremost. Guess he'll only get it the first time he himself get assaulted by an idiot. | /r/MensRights | 28/06/20 03:07 AM |
| 4 | Why isn’t it the same?Anti fuckboy shaming and fuckboy pride movement when? Well, of course it wouldn't be accepted, since "slut empowerment" would mean "a woman being empowered about her own sexuality" while "fuckboy empowerment" would mean "enabling and encouraging manipulative and insensitive behaviour for men only using others as objects". It's funny how the focus changes despite both of them being exactly the same thing in their effect if you remove victimhood from the equation. It's kind of funny how the answer… | /r/MensRights | 28/06/20 03:01 AM |
| 1 | For fire, police and military, women should have to pass *identical* physical standards as men. Women should not be given a lower standard.Thank god someone said this. | /r/MensRights | 27/06/20 01:21 PM |
| 3 | How dare men have exculpatory evidence? Is this abuse?The real problem with feelings is that while they are legitimate, they shouldn't define you and you shouldn't take them as "the truth". I had a friend that was scared by arab people because, thanks to her living in a big city with a ton of foreign delinquents that were making the law here, she was constantly attacked by them and had things stolen by them, which understandably kind of traumatized her. Is the "feeling" legitimate, as in, understandable? Yes. Dismissing these experiments and not tr… | /r/MensRights | 24/06/20 11:02 PM |
| 3 | How dare men have exculpatory evidence? Is this abuse?From my experience you're probably not reading far enough into this. Which is the scary part. But that's what you get in a culture where feelings, no matter reality and your own responsibility in theses, are above everything else. | /r/MensRights | 24/06/20 10:38 PM |
| 1 | The difference between us and feminist subs/groupsThe definition is one of the many scams they commonly use. As I already said a while ago, they constantly use a motte-and-bailey fallacy when talking about the definition. If a MRA group tries to have a meeting or whatever else, they get hit in the face by "they are fascists and mysoginists and don't need to exist, we are here for equal rights, look in the dictionary". Then said MRA disband. And ask them to do something about, say, the differences in prison sentences between men and women or the… | /r/MensRights | 24/06/20 01:51 PM |
| 2 | r/science takes a look at the benefits of porn for womenScience has always been about interpretations and more importantly, as weird as it may sound, about trying to see how you're mistaken. Good scientists recognize it and try to correct their bias. It's just that we stopped trying to see how we could be wrong. | /r/MensRights | 24/06/20 01:32 PM |
| 2 | Guess what, deletedThe number of people ok with this is quite depressing. Not to mention the "I'm fine with my own dick so who cares". You're free to be ok with anything you want, but I guess the importance of choice only matter if it's done to a woman or something? | /r/MensRights | 24/06/20 10:52 AM |
| 10 | r/PinkPillFeminism attempts to demonize us yet again due to a shithead in our subreddit, completely ignoring the fact that they were downvoted to the point that they deleted their comment.That's what happens when you change the meaning of a word so much that people stop believing in what you say preemptively. It's quite ironic that they're complaining about something that their own kind is causing first-hand. How many time does this needs to be said: aside from, of course, men, REAL victims are the ones that gets screwed by false accusations and by a ton of these idiots that are crying wolf because looking at someone = rape the most. If some people weren't taking rape accusations… | /r/MensRights | 24/06/20 10:40 AM |
| 2 | I dunno... maybe the stigma that will never go away even after all charges are dropped? Maybe the fact that your life is destroyed the moment the false allegation is made because if you're a man you're guilty until proven innocent? You can't reason with this level of delusion.Probably brigading. Which goes to show that these people don't want equality, responsibilities for women and fairness. | /r/MensRights | 24/06/20 10:29 AM |
| 2 | Some women do care about usQuite the opposite, despite having more "women" friends than "men" friends for longer than not. It makes a difference because of one thing: heterosexual relationships. Your partner is usually going to be the one knowing the most crap they can use against you. And once again, I'm talking about the legal aspect here, which changes whether one is punished for it or not if you try to. You might not react differently, but the court will. Which is the point. Sure, people of both genders who do that ar… | /r/MensRights | 23/06/20 02:24 AM |
| 1 | Some women do care about usI should have said "legal and social" at the beginning like I said later when I talked about legal and social deterrent. To me it's both. The medias and every other "social" aspect of our life (social networks, etc) encourage it, that's for sure. But there being no punishment pretty much seal the deal. If the medias encouraged male abuse but these were punished harshly, a part of the damage caused by the medias would probably be cancelled, because... well... Knowing that you are at risk of being… | /r/MensRights | 23/06/20 12:32 AM |
| 2 | Some women do care about usWell, that's a general rule honestly. I guess people might see it as being a bit jaded, but it isn't even that mean, you didn't say that even actions aren't reliable or whatever. You just said that it's what you should look for. And being careful isn't a bad thing as far as it doesn't turn into being hateful. | /r/MensRights | 22/06/20 08:25 PM |
| 2 | Some women do care about usI'd rather say that for a lot of them they do care... but people change, and humans tend to have a priority list and tend to be opportunistic if they don't "watch over themselves" to be sure that they aren't being jerks to others because of their own personal "rules" that they impose onto others (see the banker example above, someone thinking he's being nice but only applying said niceness to some categories of victims) because it's what "nice" means to them. Since they only know their half of t… | /r/MensRights | 22/06/20 08:22 PM |
| 2 | Some women do care about usI don't see why you're being downvoted. Saying that you should look for actions, not just words, isn't bad. And that's true for everything. Don't put too much faith in words that have nothing to back it up. Now if there is some serious backing it's different, but words alone are rather hollow. | /r/MensRights | 22/06/20 07:50 PM |
| 2 | Some women do care about usDefinitely not. From other men, it's mainly either from the conservative type, or as a joke or something you know beforehand that the person can deal with. "Uh moving this furniture is such a pain" "well, man up". isn't the same as "I'm thinking about killing myself because I can't bear this abuse anymore", which is rarely answered in the same way by men. In short, men can say it, but don't necessarily care except for some rare ones and will listen. What is true, however, is that men often don't… | /r/MensRights | 22/06/20 07:44 PM |
| 3 | Some women do care about usThe usual cases are either people not liking to talk about their problems, these exist and talking about it doesn't help for everyone, and that's something people need to understand, it'd be like forcing an introvert to behave like an extrovert constantly against its will, it's tiring, downright cruel, and useless. Or they are people that opened up to 1000 of people thinking or saying the same thing as you here, just for it to blow in their face later, sometimes with a delay just to make the who… | /r/MensRights | 22/06/20 05:49 PM |
| 5 | Some women do care about usIt is. In the sense that while both genders can do it, it isn't judged in the same way for both of them. Which is where the problem lie. Most people learn through punishment and deterrents. If something is being encouraged instead, more people are going to see it as normal and are going to do it than if it's punished, which is where the problem lie. The problem isn't whether it's a reflection of the other or you. That much is obvious. But it doesn't help you much if what you confessed to someone… | /r/MensRights | 22/06/20 04:26 PM |
| 3 | Some women do care about usI think the most important part is being aware that you CAN possibly be like that (and of course it also applies to men), it's not a physical impossibility because you're "above this". By that, I don't mean that one should go full SJW, blaming and hating yourself and your whole community because they're "responsible", but rather than one has to be able to look at itself in its daily life as well. It'll seem a bit off the subject but the reason I say this will be clearer at the end: To quote some… | /r/MensRights | 22/06/20 03:09 PM |
| 3 | Some women do care about usActions speak louder than words anyway. My usual policy is to start slightly believing someone when what they are saying or doing really cost them something important to them in the long run. I've seen too many people fighting the good fights towards something, but as soon as it costs them anything, or as soon as they could gain something by being what they criticize,they backpedal. Like being loud about, say, false accusations... until they could gain something by doing it, be it at their job, … | /r/MensRights | 22/06/20 02:31 PM |
| 3 | Anti men subreddit, r/blackpillfeminism, has been bannedThat's the point a lot of people seem to miss. If it was about free speech, I'd agree because there would be as much ressources available from the opposing side to balance any influence it could have on impressionable people. And even this is being generous because it implies that our society is truly fair when it isn't; if you're not a feminist you're basically a fascist when it comes to mainstream influence. But since they already started banning other subs before that, this isn't about free s… | /r/MensRights | 22/06/20 02:06 PM |
| 1 | Why are bad jokes "dad jokes"?While seeing it as shocking is too much, it's still a good thread, being from a country where "dad joke" don't exist I never understood where it came from before reading ZEGEZOT's answer. It makes it endearing, I guess. | /r/MensRights | 22/06/20 01:44 PM |
| 29 | Some women do care about usMen cannot talk about it anyway, since it's considered fair to use what they'll tell you against them. A man using a woman's insecurities against her is manipulative, a woman using a man's ones against him is "it's the fault of the guy, because [x]", or "strong and not afraid to put a man back in his place", not manipulative. So even if men DID process emotions this way, and this should be a choice by the individual man made AFTER he is certain that it'll not be used against him (or if it is use… | /r/MensRights | 22/06/20 01:28 PM |
| 3 | These social experiments show how people are biased against people based on their gender.Actually, if you're looking at the comments they're arguing that the only people that defended the boy were women and men were find with it/found it funny. Yes, seriously. | /r/MensRights | 22/06/20 12:56 PM |
| 1 | Imagine generalizing like that. Am I wrong to say that what she is saying is unfair? Tell me what you guys think cuz I rlly have no ideaThe threat of rape doesn't matter much when you can threaten a man of nearly anything and it'll be taken seriously if he doesn't do what you want him to do... Societal (since social networks cn ruin someone's life just as much as the law nowadays) and legal pressure are just a much of a problem and can ruin lives. Let's imagine that the woman tries to assault a man and he hurts her when defending himself. We all know where this is going and if the woman was ready to assault someone, chances are,… | /r/MensRights | 22/06/20 12:49 PM |
| 3 | Does "happy father's day to all the single moms" bother anyone else?It's actually kind of funny. When it comes to things like a single mother (a law, that was thankfully refused, in my country wanted to allow any single women to have free medically-assisted procreation paid by the state any time they want, so it became a rather big subject here, particularly because they were talking about removing anonymity for sperm donors at the same time.. Which is a BIT of a problem) "parents of both genders aren't needed", not even in the way it could be argued for homosex… | /r/MensRights | 22/06/20 12:42 PM |
| 20 | Some women do care about usOf course there are. The real problem isn't that all women are terrible or whatever else, it's that in the current legal framework, any of them, including the nice ones, can become so and it will be encouraged. Basically it's the lack of deterrent for being a terrible person towards men because they are "free targets" that is the real problem. I can't count the number of awesome women that bought into the misandric feminist narrative over time because as they got older, they wanted things to be … | /r/MensRights | 22/06/20 12:23 PM |
| 1 | Woman asks to poison the husbands during lockdownNothing wrong with self-deprecating humor, the problem is how one uses it and whether one takes it as "not so much of a joke but I won't say it" in the end. If anything, people as a whole can't deal with self-deprecation enough. But that's a problem on the end of the receiver, if you have to worry about hurting people constantly then you absolutely can't say anything since people's stories are different and even talking about anything absolutely random and innocent or something that isn't usuall… | /r/MensRights | 15/06/20 04:41 AM |
| 2 | Woman asks to poison the husbands during lockdownThese stats will have a meaning the day they'll be measured correctly and the day the numbers about male abuse, which can lead to suicide, will not be biased anymore. Until then it doesn't mean much, if anything at all and therefore using them to "prove" something is stupid. And even if these numbers WERE accurate, it's not a reason for freedom of speech to be asymmetrical at all. Two wrongs don't make a right, and black humor doesn't care about "offending someone" in the first place, that's the… | /r/MensRights | 14/06/20 09:27 AM |
| 2 | Woman asks to poison the husbands during lockdownI honestly don't see the point of it. At worst, replace it with something else with no ties at all with its religious origins, it'll solve a lot of problems with religious people complaining about it because of the original religious meaning of the name and it'll forcibly silence any complain about this. Something being very old doesn't necessarily means that it has a point at all. Sure, you could fix it instead, but what are the benefits exactly? The only reason people care about marriage is be… | /r/MensRights | 14/06/20 04:00 AM |
| 3 | Woman asks to poison the husbands during lockdownNot the point. Try making the same joke and reverse genders, and watch yourself be banned for it. If sexist humor was fine and dandy and didn't result in people getting fired half the time, it'd be another story, but joke or not, it's a problem when it comes to showing off freedom of speech is asymmetrical. | /r/MensRights | 14/06/20 02:01 AM |
| 2 | Woman asks to poison the husbands during lockdownThere are plenty decent men and women who should be married. No. Advocating for relationships is one thing, but "should get married"? What's the point in any case? Do you NEED to be married for a relationship to be considered "serious"? If so there is a problem, and it's not people not marrying. If you need the state to intrudes in your relationships for them to be worth something, then there is already a problem even before that. Relationships are another story I guess, but when it comes to mar… | /r/MensRights | 14/06/20 02:00 AM |
| 2 | Woman asks to poison the husbands during lockdownI'd say that while what this person said was stupid, the real problem is that most "good people" can "fall back" into the extremist ideology that is widely accepted if something happens to them or she did some crap and they need a "get out of jail free" card. That's the real risk. People aren't born good or evil, this changes over time. And when something gives you an opportunity to act in a terrible way and it's not punished, well... Nobody is going to judge you for what you did in the dark. Th… | /r/MensRights | 14/06/20 01:38 AM |
| 1 | More men are waking upWell, your problem, be careful, you know the deal nowadays with SJW culture. If that's how you got out of depression and the only way that worked for you, more power to you I guess. But it's not something to recommend to everyone otherwise it means that "the person is just a crybaby" or whatever else. The point is, saying that "if you blame politics or feminism, you should man up" is stupid. Even if you dgaf about fucking women anymore (sex is extremely overrated anyway) you can still be interes… | /r/MGTOW | 08/06/20 09:34 PM |
| 1 | More men are waking upLook, it's the usual "man up" guy. If the reason you improve your life is because of women and their entitlement, then you're an huge waste of oxygen. That's not to mention how you conveniently erase any kind of sociology regarding the idea just because "muh man up", which makes me think that the boy is in the end you. Keep "improving yourself" for the sake of another complete waste of oxygen. | /r/MGTOW | 08/06/20 02:09 PM |
| 2 | Finally realising the effects of toxic feminismIf it can be interesting to anyone, I was the exact opposite despite having an extremely low self-worth when I was younger ( I'm an HF aspie, so I tend to work in a literal and a "logic, and rules if they're fair according to how I think"> "whatever I think of myself" framework first and foremost so it didn't matter much in the end). I tended to call people who behaved this way (only "using" others) out instead, as soon as I got my first experiences of people (women in this context since it was … | /r/MensRights | 31/05/20 01:03 AM |
| 0 | imagine if this was the other way aroundYou forgot the ones in it to get oppression points or to get a pass for poor behaviour, which is probably the case for the majority of the assholes you're talking about and probably something close to their common denominator. | /r/MensRights | 27/05/20 11:51 AM |
| 2 | I don't understand why feminists think other women are obligated to be feminists.Still using that "look in the dictionary" pseudo-argument eh. That's how you see that feminists NEVER debate among themselves. Otherwise they'd notice that they CONSTANTLY use the mote and bailey fallacy. We need good PR andwe need to give a reason for MRA to disappear? "Equality means being EXACTLY the same in EVERY SINGLE way so we're fighting for men as well". MRA say that now that they disbanded, feminists should take care of things that are unfair, beneficial for women and disadvantageous f… | /r/MGTOW | 26/05/20 12:21 PM |
| 1 | AWALT - Proof if you’re new to redpill read.Most importantly, all of them CAN be like that; all guns are loaded, etc. And to counter the stupid feminists that always use,"haha but you idiots get triggered over "all men are rapists", yeah, except that as far as I know raping someone is illegal, rightly so. Women's AWALT behaviour is downright ENCOURAGED, and she is both victimized, "empowered" and REWARDED for it somehow even if she behaved like human garbage, which is the real problem; the lack of incentive to even try to behave well, and… | /r/MGTOW | 25/05/20 07:01 PM |
| 2 | How men are forced to hide any emotionsIt's not even about being seen as attractive or not. This is pretty much a detail compared to everything else that showing weaknesses implies. It's about the fact that the ones constantly asking for men t "open up" re also the fucktards constantly WEAPONIZING what men say when they open up. Sure, if you open up a woman will see you as less attractive, but it's the least of your problems when talking about how depressed you are or whatever else can, and will, be used against you and make you lose… | /r/MGTOW | 24/05/20 01:11 PM |
| 3 | How men are forced to hide any emotionsYou get it. The reason you don't sow your emotions is because you know that people have no qualms about using what a man confess against him, and abuse and manipulation is seen as fair game is it's against a man. So it's a defense mechanism against retards with no sense of morality. Not "muh gender roles". That's also why people LOVE to see men "opening up" and ask for it. They're asking the man to give them the bullet they'll shoot him with any time they need it. Calling this crap "toxic mascul… | /r/MGTOW | 24/05/20 01:07 PM |
| 1 | How men are forced to hide any emotionsExcept that the reason men don't open up ISN'T "gender roles". So it isn't and that's nonsense. | /r/MGTOW | 24/05/20 01:00 PM |
| 1 | What feminists did to Erin Pizzey was way worse than I realised - they killed her dog, gave repeated, genuine bomb threats and forced her and her family to flee the country!! Plus 3 essential videos to understanding why feminist act like this and what we can doThat's some mental fortitude here. If someone killed my cats, I can say for sure that I wouldn't be so "nice" anymore; you're able to kill someone randomly, be ready to be hurt in response, and that's not because who is doing it, but because if you do it willingly, be ready to deal with it. That's how things work when it comes to being a legitimate threat to nearly anymone else on this planet that disagrees with you. You take a life without being forced to, you put yours at risk as well. At this… | /r/MensRights | 24/05/20 02:45 AM |
| 1 | How men are pushed to hide any emotionsThen again a ton of people were agreeing because "muh op that's what toxic masculinity is", which is absolute nonsense and is missing the point completely and implies that men don't open up because of "gender roles" which is a flawed idea in the first place. | /r/MensRights | 24/05/20 12:29 AM |
| 1 | How men are pushed to hide any emotionsThat's the part the OP missed in this thread. People DO care about men opening up. Hey, it gives them more ammo to use against them afterwards so it's great. So even their "toxic masculinity" argument is nonsense ( a lot of idiots in the thread said that "OP discovered toxic masculinity", as if "toxic masculinity" was used in regard to WOMEN enabling it most of the time and not as a male thing... Yeah, sure it is. Screw you.); it's not about men "having to be stoic because muh gender roles". It'… | /r/MensRights | 24/05/20 12:19 AM |
| 1 | The “Safe Guy” vents.So typical. "She's a bitch, so it has to be his fault and he did things wrong". And yet you have the gut to call other people simps. People definitely have no idea of what this word means anymore. Or maybe you're just applying the same logic to yourself, "everyone must be a dancing monkey for me so if someone doesn't serve me however I want them to, they can fuck off, I can't be the one at fault". Thanks for proving that you are a low-value human being. | /r/MGTOW | 20/05/20 09:48 AM |
| 2 | Why do women project so much?You nailed it. This is what a true lack of empathy; any kind of empathy; looks like. Which isn't surprising when you take their "selfishness"; oh sorry I think the "good side" instead calls it "pragmatism" when women just use others as tools; into account. I'd argue that the current generation isn't that good with sympathy neither; thanks to our hyper-individualistic culture and the worship of short-term gratification. Even sympathy, that is way less complicated of a thing than empathy, is usual… | /r/MGTOW | 19/05/20 10:51 AM |
| 3 | Woman writes article about how toxic femininity must be recognised as a thingMen get an presumption of guilt instead. So there's that. | /r/MensRights | 11/05/20 03:14 AM |
| 4 | 70000+ Upvotes and removed by moderators "Men don't hide their emotions because of "toxic masculinity," they hide them because no one cares"It's indeed hilarious. In this thread toxic masculinity means "not the person itself but everyone around him forcing him to behave according to gender roles". Yes it includes women although they argue that "women have less influence on men than other men" (really now?) so women are still perfect and not a part of the problem. Sure, it's how toxic masculinity is always used, right? It's never an attack towards someone in particular. And of coure there's the fact that men don't go full "I don't ta… | /r/MensRights | 11/05/20 03:09 AM |
| 5 | Oh, it seems the opinion is so "popular" it disappeared...You get it. You keep everything to yourself to avoid giving a loaded gun to the other side, and suddenly you're doing it because you're trying to look like a caricature of manhood. Not as a protective measure because the other side is known not to have any morals about that and is known to be APPLAUDED for doing this, no, no, you're just doing this to look ultra-buff. This is just blaming men and caricaturing them for the things they need to do in order to protect themselves when women gloriousl… | /r/MGTOW | 11/05/20 01:09 AM |
| 11 | Oh, it seems the opinion is so "popular" it disappeared...The joke is that a ton of people on this thread, that definitely isn't that "popular" when you read all of the comments, are saying that what OP talk about IS toxic masculinity... And toxic masculinity comes from other people around the man forcing him to try to look "hyper-masculine". Yes, this includes women. Although they also add that "bu-but women influence men behaviour way less than men between themselves!!"so it's still men's fault - women are still 100% white and pure and not the cause … | /r/MGTOW | 11/05/20 12:56 AM |
| 1 | Unpopular Opinion: Men don't hide their emotions because of "toxic masculinity", they hide them because no one cares.They'll use said vulnerabilities that you just showed to fuck WITH you though. A lot. "How dare you ask asnything from me when you're even worse off and just a depressed and worthless mess that already thought about killing yourself? You're crazy so what you say have absolutely no value" or whatever else you can think about. There have been divorce cases where a man's "depression" as been used as an argument to lessen his credibility. They do like it in a way, since it gives them more ammo when … | /r/MGTOW | 10/05/20 08:45 PM |
| 2 | Unpopular Opinion: Men don't hide their emotions because of "toxic masculinity", they hide them because no one cares.If you open up, it'll end up being used against you. It's really everything there is to it. It's domestic abuse 101 towards men and the reason men don't talk about it and you'll see former victims admitting this everywhere; they know what they say will just be weaponized in order to make their situation worse and that they aren't believed anyway. And if your "confession" somehow find its way back to the abusive girlfriend through word of mouth? Enjoy that preemptive accusation of DV SHE throws a… | /r/MGTOW | 10/05/20 08:38 PM |
| 4 | Unpopular Opinion: Terms such as "toxic masculinity" and "mansplaining" are deliberately designed to shame men, not to help them.So that's what lotte and bailey refers to. So the oldest feminist trick in the book, their wordplay using both the "dictionnary" definition of feminism and its "historical definition" to deny MRA's existence has to be one too right? We need good publicity > "we care about men too, look in the dictionnary, feminism = equality. There is no need for MRA to exist and they're evil misogynists, we're here for the job, if things are unfair towards men we'll take care of it". (In this situation equality… | /r/MGTOW | 10/05/20 08:08 PM |
| 2 | 70000+ Upvotes and removed by moderators "Men don't hide their emotions because of "toxic masculinity," they hide them because no one cares"Meanwhile, while it is indeed upvoted, a ton of idiots in the comments are saying that "muh, what you describe IS toxic masculinity" (try again, absolute idiot). So looks like it isn't that popular as long as feminists and simps are concerned. | /r/MGTOW | 10/05/20 07:53 PM |
| 5 | 70000+ Upvotes and removed by moderators "Men don't hide their emotions because of "toxic masculinity," they hide them because no one cares"It's infuriating. Particularly because, according to their own definition, THEY'RE the ones causing it. Not gender roles. All of the idiots weaponizing anything a man will say and the ones stopping them from being taken seriously because "muh you're an evil oppressor with all the privileges, you don't understand anything since you have all the advantages". That's why people don't listen to men, because of the presumption of guilt these retards create. Not because of "gender roles" or "the patria… | /r/MGTOW | 10/05/20 05:04 PM |
| 5 | 70000+ Upvotes and removed by moderators "Men don't hide their emotions because of "toxic masculinity," they hide them because no one cares"And then these idiots in the answers say that "but that's what toxic masculinity is, gender roles!!!!!" No, idiot. It's not about gender roles. It's about practicality. It's about you not doing things that will be detrimental to you. It's about not giving the gun to the person that is dying to shoot you. It's not about wanting to look tough because of "gender roles", it's a survival strategy and the problematic ones are the women actually weaponizing this. And even assuming that the fact that no… | /r/MGTOW | 10/05/20 04:51 PM |
| 1 | I, a woman, post a mens right meme about equality and feminism and now am facing disturbing angry backlash on Facebook with no idea how to defend myself. It's taken me years to get brave enough to post my own opinions on my own walls and now people are attacking me with comments like thisfeminism is (supposedly) about equality. But only when women are disadvantaged? To go a bit more into details about this. This is one of the oldest tricks in the books for feminist activists. Equality actually has two meaning in the feminist "dictionary" -The first one is the one most people will think about when talking about equality. Equal=similar when it comes to everything. It's the one they will use when trying to get some good publicity. "MRA don't need to exist, they're just some bigots,… | /r/MensRights | 07/05/20 01:25 AM |
| 1 | French feminsts complain that they are still "street harassed" while during confinement. Many users point out that this behaviour comes from a specific kind of people. Removefest ensue.You forgot to add the fact that apparently an "insistent smile" count as harrassment here (not surprising and nothing new here, but it's still important to note given the complain). Kind of important since it changes the meaning of the whole thing. They aren't talking about actual harrassment here, mainly about small things and then extrapolating everything to hell and beyond. | /r/MensRights | 05/05/20 08:49 PM |
| 2 | The vast majority of MGTOW are mentally ill men who suffer from depression and narcissistic personality disorderFellow aspie here. And it's funny how it's seen as a negative thing when aspies are usually more honest and truthful, I guess this kind of things bother them.. who would have thought? Some autistics are complete asshole when they're still immature, or if they're women since entitlement+society putting you on a pedestal instead of punching you in the face to force you to better yourself+asperger = DEADLY combo). But as a general rule since autism=literal thinking, they're often a perfect example … | /r/MGTOW | 24/04/20 09:55 AM |
| 2 | I find it interesting that lesbian couples are twice as likely to breakup/divorce than hetrosexual and gay male couples.To put it shortly, it's also quite effective at showing that the stupid myth of "the patriarchy" isn't at fault for pretty much everything bad that happens. Which is quite important in a social climate blaming it (and its supposed existence) for everything and using it as a justification for unfairness. | /r/MensRights | 19/04/20 01:49 PM |
| 2 | I trust plenty of women in all of these situations and the vast majority of people do as well.Pretty much. Also, not trusting women doesn't only target women. It also, and probably mainly, target the system and society as a whole, that allows any woman, even a perfect unicorn that never did anything wrong in her life (and people aren't born "good" or "evil" to begin with) to do a 180° at any time and act in absolutely terrible ways, while still being supported by pretty much everyone (which of course doesn't help someone when it comes to to second-guessing itself at all). Even if this wo… | /r/MensRights | 16/04/20 10:23 PM |
| 2 | Quora feminist "gold" about false accusations.It's quora. So it's not surprising at all. Unless you follow the right people, most of the content is things like that. Thing is, people downplaying this as if it never happened "because in my head I can't see it happening" are usually the worst abusers of them all. They just don't even "register" the fact that they are abusive or use false accusations or other things as a weapon and end up somehow convinced that it's the truth and rape or whatever else did, indeed, happen because screw facts an… | /r/MensRights | 09/04/20 11:21 AM |
| 3 | March 6 Covid-19 facts from USA’s Great Lakes regionImportant fact that is often ignored: the virus' incubation period can be of AT LEAST of 27 days. And you're contagious during said incubation period. There has been cases of 19 and 27 days without any symptom, while still infecting others on the side (despite the original carrier not having any symptom until the 27th day; later than the ones he infected), at least in what was mediatized in order to point out how a 14 days quarantine is useless. There is probably a lot of others cases of extende… | /r/MGTOW | 07/03/20 12:46 PM |
| 1 | What does the concept of “toxic masculinity” mean to you, and how would it hurt men? In what ways is it manifested?Manipulation tactic. Basically, you follow what it wants (a man being vulnerable), it gives the opposing side bullets to use against you in pretty much any situation. You don't, toxic masculinity, you are the problem. It's a catch-22. It means men accepting to behave not how they WANT to behave, but how others WANT them to behave instead (and if you're a competitive person but not in an unhealthy way, screw you. If you're a physical person without it being hurtful, screw you. If to you facts mat… | /r/MensRights | 06/03/20 12:48 AM |
| 2 | AMA - My name is Gerard Casey and I wrote the book that criticises the #MeToo Movement & radical feminism - AMAI'd probably have a lot of things to ask you, but I haven't read your book now so I don't know if some questions could be redundant. I'll try anyway. I tend to say that metoo and such things are a net negative for women, since being caricatural about something tend to lead to people becoming skeptical about the idea (like police starting to ignore harassment after a while because false accusers "became the norm", thus ruining its credibility). Making it so that REAL victims won't be taken seriou… | /r/MensRights | 05/03/20 11:00 PM |
| 2 | Warning : A counter offensive to erase victims of domestic violence is afloat in FranceI'm french and I can't even translate what they are saying. They're shouting "feminists, not fascist", and saying these people "go away, fascists", and that's about it from what you can hear. Nothing to add compared to op here. I just heard that one person is calling it ridiculous but that's about it. | /r/MensRights | 05/03/20 10:46 PM |
| 2 | TV Tropes is usually a good website, but their feminism page is shockingly biasedThere used to be a page about double standards towards men from women that was great, it's where I got the article about the psycho faking an agression to trap a man that helped her and destroying one if his eyes with heels back then. It was quite a good article. Now it has been completely removed. Tvtropes used to be fine a long time ago but it's been ruined by biased sjw crap. | /r/MensRights | 29/02/20 09:10 PM |
| 2 | Guy's kid gets aborted, the lack of empathy is deafening.Same here. It's really great to see that disagreeing with someone may mainly mean "misunderstanding" rather than outright "HE'S AN ENEMY". Well, the problem is the culture around us itself I guess. My main guess is that people are differently sensitized to it due to the environment they know (and as a result, sensitized to its abuses). I wouldn't take the "her body, her choice" as a problem is it hasn't been used countless times to lessen a man's viewpoint about abortion to begin with; which lea… | /r/MensRights | 29/02/20 03:18 AM |
| 2 | Guy's kid gets aborted, the lack of empathy is deafening.That's the difference between us I guess. I would act the same as you, because I know I'm kind of a weirdo by any standard, but given what I've seen I would expect most other people to be way more empathetic than me (not going in any further reason for it, but there's one, I know I'm bad at guessing intent so I will not judge it) because it's what usually happen even if I wouldn't be in the "extremely empathetic" side in this situation. I guess I'm more optimistic than you about this, which is h… | /r/MensRights | 29/02/20 02:56 AM |
| 1 | [Rant] I'm a lesbian and I realize that this subreddit makes lots of valid points.I don't exactly know what to say, but I'm sorry for you, really. Abusive acts of all kinds tend to be overlooked when they're perpetrated by women (which is why men tend to be distrustful against women; no, it's not misogyny no matter what some say); and people are not mind-reader. And society actually pushes you not to talk about it, which apparently is your case as well. Another story of a minority (although I'd usually say that the problem is that any woman can use this minority's power when … | /r/MensRights | 29/02/20 02:20 AM |
| 2 | Guy's kid gets aborted, the lack of empathy is deafening.It's a neutral you. As in, "the woman acting like she is the center the center of the world"... And for the second part, "even if you support", it's about me; I'm pro-abortion in these situations. But there's a way to put it if you're a person with even a modicum of respect. Of course you're not a part of it. | /r/MensRights | 29/02/20 01:58 AM |
| 1 | Guy's kid gets aborted, the lack of empathy is deafening.Yes. The real problem is that they used pro-abortion rhetoric as an answer without really thinking about it much, which DEFINITELY doesn't give a SINGLE damn about men. That's where the problem is. It's just not acknowledging men's side of the issue yet again. Using a common slogan instead of trying to empathize with him like they would if it was a woman is downright insulting like it would be with any other situation. Saying he can't do anything legally is one thing; "her body her choice" would… | /r/MensRights | 29/02/20 01:53 AM |
| 0 | Guy's kid gets aborted, the lack of empathy is deafening.You can have empathy without doing a 180° and having a child for him, genius. Not even taling about it beforehand is a whole new level of being an asshole. Make your own choices, but then react accordingly, not as if you personal comfort didn't have any influence on the man's life. No one (well, some people in this thread possibly do but it's not my opinion) is asking women to be a "breeding ground" for men, but there's a way of putting it if you're a good and sensible human. Which is the exact … | /r/MensRights | 29/02/20 01:42 AM |
| 1 | Guy's kid gets aborted, the lack of empathy is deafening.Don't know why you were downvoted. This is the rational way of seeing it, it's unfair to men, but as long as it's not abused nowadays, let's admit this as well, this is the problem, it's how it is. Either it was by anti-abortion people, and in this case, it's just their bias thinking, or it was by pro-abortion people, and in this case it means something a lot more bothersome. Telling the father before aborting might not be in the law, but it's still a matter of basic decency and respect; the wou… | /r/MensRights | 29/02/20 01:37 AM |
| 3 | Guy's kid gets aborted, the lack of empathy is deafening.It is. "Her body her choice" was uncalled for. This makes him sound like a control freak. A little empathy never killed people. While it's right and I think women should have the final say in this, this doesn't strike me as a good way to answer it. It's regurgitating pro-life propaganda without taking into account the fact that it's understandable for him to have a problem with that. Be pro-abortion all you want, but it shouldn't stop you from being a good person when someone is obviously is an … | /r/MensRights | 29/02/20 01:21 AM |
| 3 | Guy's kid gets aborted, the lack of empathy is deafening.She's the one that should ultimately decide in the end. But it doesn't mean that it should be an unilateral decision without any talk about it just because "I'm the one deciding, shut up!". While the core of the idea is understandable enough, to me at least (note that I also support paper abortion 100%, but when it comes to NOT aborting for someone else it's another matter that is way more complicated), but acting like you're the center of the world about it is horrible and shouldn't be allowed.… | /r/MensRights | 29/02/20 01:13 AM |
| 6 | Guy's kid gets aborted, the lack of empathy is deafening.Yeah, you can acknowledge that most abortions are for convenience, without even being alt-right. And you can even be pro-choice while acknowledging it at the same time! Big news! Yes, I swear! It's called calling a cat a cat, and not trying to minimize someone's actions or their consequences to avoid hurting their feels. Accepting accountability, even when it comes to negative things, because of what you believe is right in the end, and that yes, you sometimes have to do things that aren't moral… | /r/MensRights | 29/02/20 12:52 AM |
| 4 | Guy's kid gets aborted, the lack of empathy is deafening.And that's one of the (many) problems with feminism. They tend to defend to an extreme point immature and irresponsible idiots because of "empowerment", which makes things worse for everyone, including other women who aren't taken seriously anymore for obvious reasons. Because of these nutcases and because feminists refuse to acknowledge any middle ground which would put said irresponsible women in a bad situation, instead of just blaming idiots when they should be blamed; even when they are wom… | /r/MensRights | 29/02/20 12:37 AM |
| 0 | Guy's kid gets aborted, the lack of empathy is deafening.Not to mention that it opens another huge can of worms if "not feeling in an emotional sense" is enough to justify terminating a life. Not even anti-abortion, but people should at least stop being hypocrites and start acknowledging what it really means in the end, instead of minimizing it. That's my biggest problem, and I'm sure it's the biggest problem of a lot of people, with pro-abortion rhetoric. The lack of accountability about it. Even if you decide that it's okay, which is my stance as lo… | /r/MensRights | 29/02/20 12:20 AM |
| 2 | What do you think about the saying: behind every sexist man there is a womanAn healthy society CANNOT be created with victimhood as its basis. Period. I'd agree with feminism being about harmful problems at first. But after a while it gets overtaken with people abusing this idea (which is quite a natural behaviour, just think about people abusing your own generosity, it's basically the same idea), turning it into a complete mess. It's the big problem with "ending a cycle". You need to know how to EXACTLY do it. Otherwise, you'llend up with either it being ineffective, o… | /r/MensRights | 23/02/20 11:18 PM |
| 1 | What do you think about the saying: behind every sexist man there is a womanI hate the whole "people are [x] because they're born they way" anyway. That's a terrible rhetoric that doesn't solve anything. Maybe it's because I'm kind of particular, but yeah, everything has a reason and you don't solve things in a society by saying that some are good and others evil like in a religion. But yeah, anyway, as I said in another post under this one, the long one, some aren't "sexist" "with an excuse" so to say (although the parents example is a weird one, since an abusive mothe… | /r/MensRights | 23/02/20 10:40 PM |
| 1 | Equality, as described by society and feministsOh look, the "toxic masculinity" buzzword again. It doesn't exactly help your case given how this word has "stupidity" written all over it; it's not exactly a good word to use in an argument. Not meant as offensive, but since the basis of TM is EXTREMELY controversial by itself it's honestly not a good way to put it. Not that passionate. Mainly a debate type of person as long as it can be somewhat not based purely on feelings, and that's it. I've seen more than enough feminists being "moderate" … | /r/MensRights | 23/02/20 10:33 PM |
| 4 | Australian domestic violence deaths: "Violence has no gender"It's not really that odd; it's just the same reasoning used for their "but men kill more!!" (and when you look at these stats, you see that it's a load of crap too, it's 50/50 at worst, less in 2018). They kill them because they're weaker, and thus easier targets that they can actually kill. If you're feeling extra cynical, you can even add that some of these kids probably died "by proxy" in order to indirectly attack the father in a meaningful way. | /r/MensRights | 23/02/20 09:36 PM |
| 3 | Equality, as described by society and feministsOh look, the no true scotsman fallacy again. Sure, it's just some random idiots on twitter. Until there are accusations of DV and they support the woman because "she's the victim in pretty much any case" no matter what happened. Feminism loves to pretend it's okay with real parity as long as it's purely theorical and doesn't get applied. Until they are in a practical situation where it bothers them in their agenda, like a fellow feminist acting like an complete asshole and posing as the victim a… | /r/MensRights | 23/02/20 08:58 PM |
| 1 | I got accused of predatory behavior for asking for how to properly receive consent.What I think is unhealthy is you deciding that "it isn't that common" just based of your own experiences, despite the fact that, as I said, a ton of people here, myself included, have had this kind of experience. Sometimes less extreme than others and it doesn't always reach legal proportions, but it's never agreeable to go through either way. You're trying to minimize an existing problem just because you apparently couldn't live without sex or a relationship and to you results>risks; which is h… | /r/MensRights | 23/02/20 03:49 PM |
| 2 | Why are Men’s Rights attracting so little support?If you go through something hard enough you'll break, trying to look "confident" or not at one moment or another. Then when you see the reactions to this, you learn that it's not a safe thing to do; in nature a "victim" is an easy prey that you don't respect, after all, you just use it. More importantly, you don't try to "look attractive" towards absolutely everyone, which makes the whole idea of "toxic masculinity" stupid since, once again, even if they're trying to look like an ""alpha"", most… | /r/MensRights | 23/02/20 03:13 PM |
| 3 | Why are Men’s Rights attracting so little support?That's the point, although I'd change a part of the original post; men don't want to show emotions ("look weak") because it can and will be used against them, in any setting. Not just regarding desirability, who cares about that to the point of making it the core of its life. See DV, where it's not a problem "because of other men" and because they're afraid of the shame, but because of good old DARVO, becaise of the high risk of being seen as the culprit of the incident yourself, and a big insti… | /r/MensRights | 23/02/20 12:15 PM |
| 2 | Japanese woman to white womenI've seen the counterpart "honorary white" used a couple of time, quite funny and sad at the same time. Well, how asians were treated under "positive discrimination" tells you everything you need to know, sadly enough. "Shut up up and just accept to have a penalty that even white people don't have!" | /r/MensRights | 23/02/20 11:59 AM |
| 1 | Japanese woman to white womenWhich is quite funny, because parisian women tend to be the worst overall (there is a pretty big problem with parisians as a whole thinking that THEY are france, period, everything else doesn't exists... thus there is an HUGE divide in france between huge cities and everything else when it comes to a ton of things, with paris being at the top. Mix this with feminism, and the result ends up being "wonderful" when it comes to thinking that they're the center of the world...) I knew two "almost per… | /r/MensRights | 23/02/20 11:55 AM |
| 1 | I got accused of predatory behavior for asking for how to properly receive consent.Maybe it'd work better if you weren't dismissive of very real cases that a lot of people here probably experienced, then? Because for a lot of people that talked about it "online", it IS this "crap you read online" and you not caring about other people's experiences doesn't make it much better when it comes to judging it. You not knowing anyone that lived through this is and how much you need sex is the only difference. | /r/MensRights | 23/02/20 11:42 AM |
| 2 | I got accused of predatory behavior for asking for how to properly receive consent.Been there, done that girlfriend-wise. The worst part is that it's usually the same kind of people that cry about microagressions, "hurting their feelings", you being offensive (I even got the prized patriarchal badge!!.... despite being the exact opposite to a pretty ridiculous point and just asking for reciprocal respect/not being a kleenex and a tool), how society shouldn't say this or that because of how it makes them feel, and how everyone should adjust to them at the same time, basically k… | /r/MensRights | 23/02/20 11:34 AM |
| 3 | Does anyone know how I could stop my little sister from being abusive in the future?Not to mention that a smaller person can be dangerous under an adrenaline rush, and that a well-placed blow can do some damage, since the human body has a lot of fragile parts like the eyes (which reminds me of this ... that faked being assaulted in a parking in order to trap a guy coming to help her in her car, destroying one of his eyes with her heels... People underestimate how much EVERYTHING can pretty much become a weapon, and once a weapon is involved, size matters a lot less) or the nose… | /r/MensRights | 23/02/20 10:56 AM |
| 3 | What do you think about the saying: behind every sexist man there is a womanEasy to say. It'll end the day people on both sides recognize their responsibilities, something feminism is extremely problematic for because it tends to only give lesson to one side while painting the other side as victims (and when it "gives a lesson" to women it's about things beneficial to them, example, the big and beautiful movement and their stance on self-image; which shifts the blame to men afterward anyway), using it to justify things like lack of respect; when people get a social medi… | /r/MensRights | 23/02/20 10:33 AM |
| 3 | Under a tweet saying that men hate their exes because of misogyny. I don’t understand these people"Very rarely seen women do this to men". Yeah, sure, women usually go one step further and don't just "shame" them. They flat-out make them the culprits. By the way, if we include the biased legal system in said "created system", which is one of the reasons men don't speak up because they have one chance out of two to end up in jail themselves, how do they make it compatible with the fact that "women are oppressed" and "men are privileged" systemically? How does that work and how is it compatibl… | /r/MensRights | 23/02/20 10:03 AM |
| 3 | What do you think about the saying: behind every sexist man there is a womanBasically, most men don't become sexist out of nowhere without a reason. | /r/MensRights | 23/02/20 09:50 AM |
| 2 | Gay rights are Men’s rightsGay rights have been labelled as a part of feminists because a lot of gays are buying into feminism and that's about it, it's part of the scam telling that feminism is the "one and only right way and the ONLY way needed" to enable progress which is pervasive enough to make other movements support it. That's it. That's why I tend to make a difference between "activists" and "regular people". If gays started to massively support men's rights, it'd turn around quite easily, but the LGBTQetc itself … | /r/MensRights | 23/02/20 09:37 AM |
| 2 | Men opening up emotionally to othersBecause they don't open up to SOME PEOPLE. The part that they miss is that you only should open up to someone that is TRUSTWORTHY, and it's something that men pretty men have to learn over time since "opening up" is actually weaponized against them most of the time, particularly in a biased society, making them the culprit of what happened or even using it as a weapon against them. In other words, this whole "toxic-masculinity-men-are-guilty-for-not-showing-their-emotions" thing is a front to av… | /r/MensRights | 18/02/20 06:06 PM |
| 1 | Gillette CEO: Losing customers over #MeToo campaign is 'price worth paying'Maybe because you're NOT "constructive" but are only defending an unfair narrative using a shaky pretence? 5 months in now, and way more if we actually count the airing date of the ad, and I'm still waiting to see an ad against women and false accusations/gold digging/heavy emotional abuse (or abuse whatsoever really) against men. The only things you'll see about any kind of what we could call "toxic feminity" if we're feeling generous (and we need to be extremely generous because it's definitel… | /r/MensRights | 18/02/20 05:07 PM |
| 4 | An MRA Woman Is Here To Help MGTOW See The Light...That's what she is missing, yeah. Everything is already fucked and women already control everything. So participating would only slow down their own self-destruction... Which is exactly the opposite of what we want, and exactly what they are looking for. Just the typical way to make men go back to the plantation, this time by playing on their self-preservation instinct. Except that it doesn't work, everyone knows that a society like that crashes extremely quickly to the benefit of the opposing s… | /r/MGTOW | 13/02/20 08:29 PM |
| 2 | My only relationship was abusive and I’m just supposed to “get over it”Also she never told me she loved me and apparently the whole time behind the scenes tried getting better looking guys but anytime I tried to address how I felt in the relationship she would shrug me off like my feelings don’t matter and I stress too much etc. Let me guess, never told you because it's "not needed" or any other stupid variation of it and using any excuse, despite behaving like it when it was convenient, and then suddenly at the end or after the end, in order to justify herself, te… | /r/MGTOW | 13/02/20 08:11 PM |
| 3 | French firefighters in Paris today looking like a scene from the movie Joker protesting for improved work conditions and pension reform.Than private workers; And no, since their salary for a low-grade one IS pretty much the lowest allowed wage in the country, they don't "make more money". Also, you're ignoring the risks of the job but at this point it's not that surprising anymore. Hope your house get in flame someday. You'll see if there "isn't any risk" that would justify a somewhat better wage than the minimum. No, you're just ignoring anything relevant when it doesn't go your way. Period. The fact that you say that they're e… | /r/MGTOW | 05/02/20 05:47 PM |
| 3 | French firefighters in Paris today looking like a scene from the movie Joker protesting for improved work conditions and pension reform.I'm tired of repeating it again but I will, for one last time: said "privileges" are because them "not being treated like everyone else" is actually a net negative for them, particularly now since the one advantage of being public, having a safe job, is getting removed. So yeah, they're not treated like everyone else. Which is exactly the problem. Just not in the way you're thinking about. | /r/MGTOW | 05/02/20 05:43 PM |
| 3 | French firefighters in Paris today looking like a scene from the movie Joker protesting for improved work conditions and pension reform.They ARE irrelevant, idiot, since the plan is to get rid of everything altogether, making a cashier being the same as someone risking its life or whatever else. It's not even about how privileged they are NOW, it's about the fact that after the reform, it'll be the same without taking the specificities of ANY job into account (except cops, since the government need them. Although they still get screwed by the government not paying their overtime, but whatever). Which would create situations like… | /r/MGTOW | 05/02/20 05:36 PM |
| 3 | French firefighters in Paris today looking like a scene from the movie Joker protesting for improved work conditions and pension reform.Go check for them yourself. I am posting facts, like salary being significantly worse and less often increased, because of how public employment work in france and how their salary is calculated, you're the one ignoring it or just not getting that the system is quite different. Not my problem. The problem is that they're supposed to keep the BAD part of public employment without getting the GOOD ones of private employment, which are two very different things as far as france is concerned. As I a… | /r/MGTOW | 05/02/20 05:24 PM |
| 3 | French firefighters in Paris today looking like a scene from the movie Joker protesting for improved work conditions and pension reform.Again? I shouldn't be surprised that you don't even read the whole thing since you don't seem to care and just seem to have a problem with public employees and that's it. As I said, most of the "advantages" are in order to compensate with the DISADVANTAGES they get from being a public employee, and therefore having their own private way of calculating their salary, different from non public ones, and often not beneficial at all compared to a private employee. Before, it used to be compensated so… | /r/MGTOW | 05/02/20 05:20 PM |
| 3 | French firefighters in Paris today looking like a scene from the movie Joker protesting for improved work conditions and pension reform.It doesn't contain facts because they're not needed in this context, genius, the facts that I gave you pretty much cancel the facts you ask for. It should be easy to find since people have been talking a lot about this recently, but I'm not going to translate it if it's unneeded in the first place. Even if their retirement or pension WAS unfair, the point is that the government want to throw EVERYTHING out, to make it an "universal system", to make their job basically the same as a cashier or wh… | /r/MGTOW | 05/02/20 05:02 PM |
| 4 | French firefighters in Paris today looking like a scene from the movie Joker protesting for improved work conditions and pension reform.France have a big problem because of their arrogance that comes from their "we're the country of human rights!" rhetoric. If it looks ridiculous for america, try to imagine how it is from the inside. It's kind of pitiful and is a breeding ground for SJW logic, it stops any hope of real argument since it shares the same "arrogant" mindset. Not that I disagree with the healthcare being good, etc (and as a result EXTREMELY easily abused, even by illegals) but when some parts of your country is star… | /r/MGTOW | 05/02/20 04:44 PM |
| 2 | French firefighters in Paris today looking like a scene from the movie Joker protesting for improved work conditions and pension reform.In this case it's not even about better condition; the government want to pass a law that would basically make things way worse for them (along with most other people) that hasn't even been checked to to see if it could be financed or not. Basically it would remove the idea of "risk" from the calculation of their retirement, while also raising the retirement of people that have incomplete careers. Funnily enough, the excuse CONSTANTLY used by the government to make this a "good thing" is "it… | /r/MGTOW | 05/02/20 04:39 PM |
| 3 | French firefighters in Paris today looking like a scene from the movie Joker protesting for improved work conditions and pension reform.Oh look, someone stupid that doesn't know what he's talking about. Yeah, they get fucked over by france. The whole point of the protest is because the french government is basically trying to fuck the whole country when it comes to retirement; to put it simply, france would end up with a system like the us but with the disadvantages of the one in france and without any of its advantages, and people would pretty much have to get a private retirement plan... While still having to pay a ton to the … | /r/MGTOW | 05/02/20 04:22 PM |
| 5 | Abused man put in jail by abuser. Life destroyedSame deal as #metoo. And guess what? Women will get the backslash in the end as well. People will get surprised when in some years people will take complains about abuse towards women even less seriously. That's why it's annoying to see that even a ton of "moderate" feminists are fine with this kind of things, or talk about it, but if it can be beneficial to them, then all bets are off; feminists or not, humans are selfish and this will always happen if there is no safety net (Some of my exes we… | /r/MensRights | 04/02/20 07:06 AM |
| 5 | Abused man put in jail by abuser. Life destroyedSadly enough, it's extremely far from the truth. A lot of "male feminists" are practicing the women-are-wonderful effect in full swing, which means that their in-group preference is way lower than the opposite, to the point of ending up being unfair. Is it self-destructive? Certainly. Does it stop it? Nope. And they definitely will not feel ashamed calling themselves feminists, you can be certain of that. Quite the opposite. I've seen more rational behaviour from people calling themselves egalit… | /r/MensRights | 04/02/20 06:40 AM |
| 1 | Abused man put in jail by abuser. Life destroyedI guess the answer would be "they don't talk about their problems, hence the suicide rate" among other things. Was I right? I would like to add that first, said "toxic behaviour" is highly subjective and doesn't take into account the fact that... Well... People are different, and talking about your emotions isn't going to help for everyone. There are things you need real solution for, and talking about it isn't going to help much if at all. And second, and more importantly in my opinion, it's a … | /r/MensRights | 04/02/20 06:27 AM |
| 1 | Abused man put in jail by abuser. Life destroyedI'm some ways men are favored, in others, women are favored. That's the nature of a sexist system. One of the greatest issues facing young males today is social isolation, the lack of attention to men's mental health, etc. Some of these are facets of toxic masculinity, a social phenomenon that feminism actively attempts to dismantle. Yes, primarily because of the damage it does to women and the broader society, but also because of the self-destructive nature of it. Sorry, what? That's the excuse… | /r/MensRights | 04/02/20 06:10 AM |
| 1 | SNL makes fun of "white male rage" because Joker got nominated for the Oscars. Really shows how dangerous it is to be a a man because you have no outside help at all even for your problems. Hypocrisy levels through the roof.Which is why victimhood is actually something extremely dangerous to enforce, particularly in a manichean and emotional way, and it can turn into the worst things this world has even seen quite quicky. It's one hell of a double-edged word, just like "empathy" is. There's a reason "oppression" was actually used as a excuse for a ton of political extremist throughout history. And of course once victimhood becomes a sort of power, then you end up dealing with the logical conclusion for it: power co… | /r/MensRights | 04/02/20 05:40 AM |
| 1 | Cautious Hero : An anime recommendation for MGTOWsGreat anime. The end is a little BP, nothing too terrible, but it's pretty funny and handle twists pretty well, turning jokes into something a lot more serious. It was probably one of the best ones this season. The MC is great and rational, for once. And who can forget about thirsty Rista that is worth about as much as medicinal herbs. | /r/MGTOW | 10/01/20 02:09 AM |
| 1 | My ex and the sexualization of women.Talking about sexualization with women is always hilarious. I just saw a thread about how women are the first ones to sexualize themselves, and the answer from women usually was "we're damned if we do, damned if we don't. If we choose not to see ourselves as sexual objects, not to shave (weird parallelism with no middle ground but sure, let's roll with it if you find yourself looking good this way, miss) we're called feminazi and disgusting pigs, so we HAVE to see ourselves as such, we have no c… | /r/MGTOW | 05/01/20 12:56 AM |
| 2 | Permaban on gamingcirclejerkThat's the problem with PC culture, it's more of a posture than a real attempt to fix things. While there are people that are genuinely transphobic (just take a look at gendercritical, it's outright disgusting), in your case it wasn't that much about hate and actively attacking them, which makes it quite different, but rather (although one could argue that the wording probably wasn't great) about the problems this situation brings when it comes to competition, which are a very real thing that ha… | /r/MGTOW | 02/01/20 03:56 PM |
| 1 | Meet the next James Bond - 007People are willing to give her a chance. In her own movie. Not in one of the most prominent male role that exists. If you did the opposite it'd be called malewashing. People watch a JB movie to see a particular sort of character. Not to mention that the "'This is a Bond for the modern era who will appeal to a younger generation while sticking true to what we all expect in a Bond film,' the source added. 'There are spectacular chase sequences and fights, and Bond is still Bond but he's having to … | /r/MGTOW | 01/01/20 02:51 PM |
| 1 | Travelling is stupidI think the main difference is what you expect out of it. One of my exes was obsessed with it and basically thought that "it will be a new birth for her", "everything will change", etc (translation: it'll allow her to run away from her own poor choices and from her inner emptiness, which is a load of crap). As you said, the reason you do it is what changes everything and how healthy it actually is. Using it as an obsession to just run away from things is ridiculous, and quite common. | /r/MGTOW | 26/12/19 01:07 PM |
| 1 | Ex texted meThe whole traveling part isn't gaslighting. Making himself doubt his insecurity or trying to make him believe that he has trust issues to guit-trip him(well, he would if he was BP so let's roll with it) though, most definitely is. The point of gaslighting is to make you doubt yourself, your sanity, and your reality. It includes distorting your reactions to events to make you believe you are doing something you are not in order to make you doubt yourself and to make you think that you were in the… | /r/MGTOW | 26/12/19 12:54 PM |
| 1 | Warning : A counter offensive to erase victims of domestic violence is afloat in FranceWhat did you expect with Schiappa in the government? The woman that is lecturing others about "mansplaining" when they debate with women that are saying nonsense on tv. There is a reason men under-report violence, and it's not because of the feminist propaganda that "they are too ashamed, it's toxic masculinity!" that they love to push. It's because they know that if they do, there is a 50% chance that they will end up arrested themselves instead. This whole feminicide thing is a complete joke… | /r/MensRights | 16/12/19 09:39 AM |
| 1 | Ex coworker posted this on FB, I thought you guys might enjoy.It is, a self-justification more accurately. Millenials tend to consider that they have the RIGHT to have the best at everything because... fuck it. It's what she's saying herself to avoid noticing that she's a demanding bag of crap. Women are pretty bad at having standards, since to them it means that the world owes them everything. It's kind of amazing that they're able to think this way. With this line of thought, everyone is entitled to become a billionaire, "I'm not sking for too much, I ju… | /r/MGTOW | 29/11/19 04:54 AM |
| 1 | What is the reasoning behind taking half after divorce?It still is, because women work on average less (hence the myth of the wage gap; there is a gap but it's because they work less hours, take more break, etc, not because of a real gap). Not to mention that there has been a lot of cases where what you describe should have happened but in theory the court went full "fuck it". What you describe do happen, but it's the exception to the rule, by far. | /r/MGTOW | 29/11/19 04:10 AM |
| 9 | I wonder why?They really just can't understand that after a while or after being passed around too much and it shows in their personality men WILL still go after them, but only for ONS, eh? And it's not them being assholes, it's that their relationship worth just decreased that much. I used to not notice it a long time ago, but the part about women not being able to separate the ideas of someone wanting to have sex with them and someone wanting a relationship with them (and them being entitled to it, if the … | /r/MGTOW | 29/11/19 04:05 AM |
| 2 | Apparently any criticism against any female is hate and misogyny. Thanks for teaching me to see through this bullshit. GYOW.Women are usually their own worst enemies except when it comes to crap like feminism (and even then it only last for so long and it's basically contextual). E.g. most of the slut-shaming isn't done by men, if it disgusts guys they'll just avoid to ones doing it and want them to leave them alone, which is purely a matter of values. That's it. The funny part is that women tend to use these "criticisms" as insults but only when they perceive some competition; a slut-shamer isn't above dressing like… | /r/MGTOW | 29/11/19 03:54 AM |
| 1 | Apparently any criticism against any female is hate and misogyny. Thanks for teaching me to see through this bullshit. GYOW.This is the hilarious part of this crap once you get how it works. Feminism is just changing the definition of everything when it suits them, as always. It's particularly obvious with "confident girls" because you'll see it a lot with crying post-wall hags crying about why they can't find a good man "because men are scared of confident women". This way they can both gain a victim statut and justify their bad behaviour. No, sweety, confident women are great, but what you, and nearly all women, pa… | /r/MGTOW | 29/11/19 03:44 AM |
| 4 | No Self Reflection & Hostile. I See Why He’s Divorcing YouAnd another gem from prince. Of course, it also applies outside of relationships; example, when a woman defines herself by how good she looks to men it's "internalized objectification" and "oppression". Always shift the blame on something else, one way or another. Even if it makes you a weak af and easily influenced idiot. It's always funny how they manage to somehow be "strong, independent and confident" AND CONSTANT victims of pretty much anything at the same time. You'd thing that they'd noti… | /r/MGTOW | 29/11/19 03:32 AM |
| 1 | Feminism is setting men freeHonestly, if you still care about people and what they think about you it's your own problem at this point. Thing is, even if this didn't happen, it would still be the same and you would just be living in an illusion instead. Feminism didn't create anything; it just removed the curtain. | /r/MGTOW | 29/11/19 03:22 AM |
| 1 | Feminism is setting men freeThat's the very point of this post. Things are getting more and more fucked, making more and more men open their eyes. Feminism by itself is crap; it's the side-effects that are good. | /r/MGTOW | 29/11/19 03:20 AM |
| 2 | The greatest "red-pilled" anime intro of all time! (Sauce - Kaguya-sama : Love is War)The anime romanticize this whole deal a bit too much and fall into BP territory at times, but it was enjoyable even if not the anime of the year. The side cast was better than the main protags by a fairly large margin though, ironically enough. Have been with a woman like that in nearly all regards. This crap gave me heavy flashbacks. | /r/MGTOW | 29/11/19 03:11 AM |
| 1 | I like catsCats are absolutely great. Sadly enough they're taking a hit for the team once women hit the wall. This must be torture for them. | /r/MGTOW | 29/11/19 02:57 AM |
| 1 | Didnt really get the whole women beating on men til it happened to my friendMeanwhile, feminists still push the agenda that it's men's pride fault (toxic masculinity!!!) if a man getting attacked by a woman doesn't talk about it, because they LOVE this shit, it allows them to have another excuse for ""destroying gender roles"". No, you idiot, most men are fine talking about it if there isn't any risk involved but there always is. When if you talk about it the first reaction is always "let's arrest him instead, he probably was beating her hard in the first place for her … | /r/MGTOW | 29/11/19 02:44 AM |
| 3 | The first time I thought something was wrong with women as a teen.I'm the emotional one, and you're the one whose only answer is "boomer!!!". Yeah, sure. Then if you don't, shut up and don't answer to OP as if you were doing the same thing as his gf, calling him irrational randomly. That's the point here. The context is "she does it for others - not for me and remove it when she's not in public anymore". If she wore makeup "for fun" she would also do it when there is no possibility of validation, just for the fun of the act of it period, and also when she's wi… | /r/MGTOW | 18/11/19 01:22 AM |
| 1 | Why older women date younger menWomen are always conflating SMW and RMV. Without realizing that a lot of men would fuck anything with a pulse and a vagina. And sometimes the pulse isn't even a requirement. And then they start crying because they can't get anyone to actually settle for them, are constantly used as ONS sextoys by said men and complain about no good men being left anymore and how men are manipulative and immature pigs for settling for 20 y.o. girls, since commitment is another matter entirely. It's always quite f… | /r/MGTOW | 18/11/19 01:02 AM |
| 6 | The first time I thought something was wrong with women as a teen.Yeah, confidence in what? Being seen as "attractive"? So you value being seen as attractive by other men despite the fact that you're in a relationship. Confidence that you should already have since the one person that is supposed to matter already aknowledge that you are attractive as it is. That's not being paranoid. While a point could be made about being more confident in your relationship with your SO who should "love you as you are", it doesn't change the fact that you value being seen as … | /r/MGTOW | 18/11/19 12:18 AM |
| 1 | Man goes his own way = self-actualizationOh look, a poor snowflake that is offended when you use a mental illness. Poor you. I'll insult whoever I want when they are saying nonsense. Particularly when they also directly insult people themselves by implying that if an idiot is calling you something, they MUST be right and you are an asshole since people obviously never do this out of malice. People don't exactly like to be called things they aren't, and when it's something negative it is an insult. This isn't an opinion. It's a direct a… | /r/MGTOW | 17/11/19 10:41 PM |
| 3 | The past drags a lot of men downNo. Aknowledging our past gives us the POTENTIAL to become better. What you do with it is another matter though. | /r/MGTOW | 17/11/19 10:22 PM |
| 1 | Man goes his own way = self-actualizationDon't say retarded things and you won't be called a retard. See? This argument is awesome. | /r/MGTOW | 17/11/19 10:19 PM |
| 15 | This is the new kinda gambling bullshit no other generation no other men had to endure.Yeah, no. European women aren't better at all. | /r/MGTOW | 17/11/19 07:55 PM |
| 1 | AWALT applies everywhereExcept that you're completely missing the point. And Picasso (despite the fact that I don't really like his work) is the perfect example of that. The point of Picasso's work isn't just that "he had a face". The art style is supposed to be a part of the message as well. To take one particular painting as an example as well as quoting the reasoning behind it: https://www.theartstory.org/images20/works/picasso_pablo_3.jpg?2 This painting was shocking even to Picasso's closest artist friends both fo… | /r/MGTOW | 16/11/19 03:46 AM |
| 3 | AWALT applies everywhereThinking that documentary are more reliable than other things (and by the way, you can "prove a point" with any fictional work since it still tells a lot about how people see things and behave and about the culture related to it. See: the bible) actually tells a lot about you. Next you're going to say that you can't prove a point using 50 shades "because it's just a movie "? What's important is the demographic and what it tries to sell you, among other things. You can learn from pretty much anyt… | /r/MGTOW | 15/11/19 11:03 PM |
| 4 | AWALT applies everywhereYeah, taking super as a reference is almost as bad as taking gt as one. | /r/MGTOW | 15/11/19 10:57 PM |
| 4 | Woman trying to confuse younger men and trying to argument against AWALTWho knows. I'm still waiting for our archeologists to show us the wedding dresses they used 400 000 years ago. Now, "civilization"? That's another matter and not necessarily a negative one. | /r/MGTOW | 15/11/19 10:53 PM |
| 2 | Woman trying to confuse younger men and trying to argument against AWALTOur messed-up world would be a good show for them. It'd give them a good laugh. Maybe we're already the reality tv of whatever other planet at this point? It'd explain why the script is so terrible. | /r/MGTOW | 15/11/19 10:49 PM |
| 8 | Woman trying to confuse younger men and trying to argument against AWALTAlways funny to see their reaction to any kind of mgtow content. Never a "I'm sad that relationship dynamics have come to this and that a lot of women get away with this kind of thing", never a "I disagree but it's true that women can get away with a lt of things and men are never listened to, never anything of the sort, just "HAA I'M NOT LIKE THAT GO AWAY EVIL YOU EVIL MISOGYNIST!" (spoiler: she definitely is). I sure love our "empathic" gender! Their reaction is really everything you need to k… | /r/MGTOW | 15/11/19 10:45 PM |
| 1 | "I hate him, hate this, hate that, hate everything". GYOW boys. Don't risk ending up with someone like thisThere is a lot of textbook borderline in her behaviour. In the clinical meaning, not the typical internet one. Not being "attracted anymore" and not liking some things after you changed your tastes over the years is one thing. Intense hatred is another one, particularly when it's so hyper-focused and when the other hasn't done something to cause said change (and if he did, given her level of hatred she certainly would have said it). At this point it's not "I don't like that, and yet he likes it"… | /r/MGTOW | 12/11/19 06:52 AM |
| 1 | No one: Absoulutely no one : London -we need a vagina museum to banish shame - uk strikes again.First, it's absolutely retarded, but no surprise here, you get used to it over time, which is quite sad honestly. Second. Even if their "goal" is really supposed to be this, which doesn't make it better and is still gynocentric as fuck when you think about the difference of funding between, say, breast and prostate cancer: Cervical cancer charity Jo's Trust found more than a quarter of 25 to 29 year olds in Britain feel "too embarrassed" to attend a cervical screening. "When they're ashamed of t… | /r/MGTOW | 12/11/19 05:18 AM |
| 2 | "I hate him, hate this, hate that, hate everything". GYOW boys. Don't risk ending up with someone like thisIn this case it absolutely reeks of BPD and is a textbook case of splitting done by an immature and unaware idiot. For the ones who don't know about this, https://www.verywellmind.com/what-is-splitting-425210 the part about spilling is at the top. What makes splitting all the more confusing is that the belief can sometimes be iron-clad or shift back-and-forth from one moment to the next. People who split are often seen to be overly dramatic or overwrought, especially when declaring that things h… | /r/MGTOW | 11/11/19 09:42 PM |
| 7 | "I hate him, hate this, hate that, hate everything". GYOW boys. Don't risk ending up with someone like thisWhich is honestly quite interesting, since the main difference is that she's SO addicted to validation (of any kind, good or bad, in this case the return is rather bad) that she isn't even smart enough to hide it. Well, that, and/or she's just too messed up in the head to see the problem. Another interesting part is the "break up, love disappear sometimes it's normal" answers. No it isn't. Or rather, "love disappearing" doesn't have much to do with it, in fact their relationship itself doesn't h… | /r/MGTOW | 11/11/19 08:01 PM |
| 4 | "I hate him, hate this, hate that, hate everything". GYOW boys. Don't risk ending up with someone like thisI love the usual "your outgrew him, it happens". No. This isn't "outgrowing a relationship", the convenient excuse always used by people unable to take their oath seriously and move their own ass a little bit. This is hypergamy in overdrive, if not more. She should still break up, but it will still break the dude, and isn't "normal" and "expected" by any mean (well, it is if you're red-pilled, but most of the world isn't so that's not what we're talking about. We're "awful misogynists" here afte… | /r/MGTOW | 11/11/19 07:48 PM |
| 3 | You are narcissist if you go for prenup according to her !!Easy. Narcissistic behaviour when done by a woman means "strong" and empowerment. Hell, back when I was a BP in some cases where I just defended myself against a narc ex doing the usual consume>throw away thing, I was seen as the abusive one because a woman behaving like the lowest piece of dirt ever is still great and a proof of strenght. Yes, it's extremely destructive for the narc herself over time too. They don't care about this though. If these idiots cared about the long term we'd know it … | /r/MGTOW | 05/11/19 08:14 PM |
| 8 | How Men and Women React When Getting the Cold ShoulderWell, a man's logical nature tend to make him into a problem solver... So when there is a problem it stresses him out. A lot. They always try to fix things; and if it's not by compromising it's by an outright sacrifice. Women just throw away and replace because something "good" should NEVER have a problem or whatever, otherwise it's [toxic/whatever other buzzword]. They tend to take the easy way out, and even if it's not because of their number of orbiters they still have anyway, they still do i… | /r/MGTOW | 05/11/19 08:10 PM |
| 1 | Pack it up guys. She just proved that whores don't exist.Does the reverse works for "abusive"? No? Figured. | /r/MGTOW | 05/11/19 09:44 AM |
| 6 | Just wow, really?Pretty easy to "call time on a failing relationship" when you're CONSTANTLY the one fucking it up on purpose, while the poor guy does his best to try to fix things like an adult would. I love how "they have the balls to..." when it fails. No, no. It's just that YOU always make it fail ON PURPOSE, so of course it's not a problem for you. Doesn't require any ball, quite the opposite since she's just running away. | /r/MGTOW | 05/11/19 07:03 AM |
| 26 | Just wow, really?"True love" for them basically means "a magical relationship where everything will always be perfect and I'll ALWAYS have what I want without having to do any effort for it to work". So, an anti-relationship essentially. That's all there is to it. Just look at how many women divorce or break up at the first problem because it shows that there is an "incompatibility" or some other crap of the sort. Their meaning of "true love" is literally "something that will give me the tingles forever without … | /r/MGTOW | 05/11/19 02:53 AM |
| 5 | Karen the feminist, raises her cats to hate men.Cats can be extremely affectionate and loyal, sometimes moreso than dogs, and have a hierarchy of sort too. Thing is, cats do give a damn about people and have their favorite and unfavorite (who can even be the person usually feeding them but that doesn't necessarily mean that the cat will like them), but it usually depends of the person itself, not its gender or whatever other crap. That's, indeed, pure projection. We're not even sure that cats can effectively differentiate human genders IIRC. | /r/MGTOW | 05/11/19 02:44 AM |
| 2 | Modern women are predominantly the products of fully unrestrained (and often narcissistic) single mothers, with zero intervention or grounding from a stable father figure.. take a minute to let that sink in (then GYOW).The funny part is that this is creating a new generation that is even worse, which will, in turn, create another new generation with an education even worse than the previous one... You get the idea. And my country is fucking allowing and paying for assisted reproduction for single women without any problem. The future will be pretty funny. | /r/MGTOW | 05/11/19 12:20 AM |
| 2 | Whoever you are, I salute youDepends of how you define hate. If to you there isn't any problem with the system as a whole and with how relationships and particularly men, are seen as a whole you have a pretty weird definition. Some people here go overboard, but things like the princess syndrome and the entitlement caused by a fucked-up education and a culture going haywire/a serious problem when it comes to the idea of respect isn't a part of it. A "sane" mgtow without too much RPR is merely MRA while also thinking that the… | /r/MGTOW | 02/11/19 08:30 PM |
| 11 | Whoever you are, I salute youReally shows you which gender the "romantic gender" actually is. Well, that's not surprising in the slightest. | /r/MGTOW | 02/11/19 02:51 PM |
| 6 | Whoever you are, I salute youExactly. Some people still can't accept the red pill after years. Her relationship was already sinking and she just didn't notice it because she got everything she wanted out of it; and apparently it wasn't the case at all for the guy. The relationship was a bad deal for the guy for quite a while now if he accepted the red pill so quickly, she just didn't notice it because she only cared about what she could gain from it and not her partner. If you're only focused on yourself to the point where … | /r/MGTOW | 02/11/19 02:46 PM |
| 6 | Whoever you are, I salute you"I wish I know he was reading such content sooner" Why, because you wanted to be able to manipulate him again for him to stay with you? Let's be honest here, most BP in a relationship reading this sub will only think that what we are saying is nonsense if you're not giving him proof that we are right yourself. He just saw that you were a big AWALT, the kind we're talking about, and took the warning, it wouldn't have happened out of nowhere and certainly not out of a single argument if you really… | /r/MGTOW | 02/11/19 02:17 PM |
| 3 | Current YearNo, you have the right to be unattracted to fat people. Deal with it. The only assholish thing to do is to let yourself go BECAUSE you're married and that's it. Same deal as the thread about shaving above. The man has the right to ask, the woman has the right to refuse, the man has the right to leave her sorry ass. A relationship where you don't even try to look attractive for your SO is sketchy as hell and is everything but a good sign. That's NOT superficial, if she had refused it'd mean "I va… | /r/MGTOW | 02/11/19 08:30 AM |
| 48 | Guy asks colleague out for chicken wings. She declines. Month later he goes to a work party with a random date and the girl sees. She complains to HR that he asked her out...Some of the comments are just what you'd expect... Fucking TRP, I swear, unable to see the difference between confidence and retardation, and thinking they're above it all (which makes me think that a lot of them are probably merely role-playing the pussy slayers given how little they seem to know about the social climate and HR at work nowadays). I guess even just a mere risk vs reward is too much to ask them. Well, nothing new under the sun and as long as these retards are the victims it'll no… | /r/MGTOW | 02/11/19 06:39 AM |
| 2 | OMEGALULAll of which are also a net cost on everyone's taxes afterward. You're paying for the retards unable to try to control themselves, instead crying about "phobia" if you dare to say that it's unhealthy (one of these retards even accused the cancer research institude of being fatphobic because it said that obesity increased the probability iof cancer. "Depression from fatshaming is a bigger problem than cancer!!!") once health problems kick in. Just wanted to add that. Their retarded fat fetishizat… | /r/MGTOW | 02/11/19 06:13 AM |
| 1 | Is this a simp sub?Didn't you know, facts are sexist. Asian are, on average, smaller than some other ethnicities > God what an absolute racist who should kill himself. The guy isn't even able to understand how retarded his "argument" is and how it doesn't make any sense. "All black people, men included, are hypergamous"? It's not a matter of being sexist, discriminatory or anything else, it's just nonsense and that's about it. It's not discriminatory when it's about facts, which is why generalizations aren't discr… | /r/MGTOW | 01/11/19 10:45 PM |
| 1 | [Article] Women's insane arrogance here in FranceFrance doesn't look like it'll go this way any time soon. Most of our people are still too frightened of what other people might think of them if they do. It might not seem as "bad" from the outside, but from the inside it's really something. Thing is, french culture isn't based on any kind of communitarianism in the first place, since it's very different from the us that is a melting pot in the first place. So you are only french if you follow french ""values"" and that's it. But while it might… | /r/MGTOW | 31/10/19 12:04 AM |
| 1 | [Article] Women's insane arrogance here in FranceI laughed at the news of her recent divorce. I reaaaaaally wonder why. | /r/MGTOW | 30/10/19 08:11 PM |
| 1 | [Article] Women's insane arrogance here in FranceTheir solution to "stop men from killing women" is to retire their guns to men accused of domestic abuse ffs. Schiappa talked about it some weeks ago in an interview (but couldn't even say her own opinion about it without the permission of the supreme leader) and they're back with it since a few days. Sure, domestic abuse is caused by GUNS, in fucking FRANCE of all countries, yeah. Even if we supposed that all of the victims were women (just roll with it for a second) they'd still be ridiculous,… | /r/MGTOW | 30/10/19 08:10 PM |
| 3 | [Article] Women's insane arrogance here in FrancePeople particularly hate it because they're still too used to the left being the left, and they tend to trick people into making them believe that they are, just to be revealed to be the same old shit as our mostly corrupt right later. On one side you promote a false equality, while on the other side you promise a meritocratic system; thing is, our previous governments pretty much broke the social ladder over time and the so-called "equality" helped a lot in that, with the idea of merit having b… | /r/MGTOW | 30/10/19 06:10 PM |
| 1 | [Article] Women's insane arrogance here in FranceWell, let's just say that it got worse since then, a lot worse. We started importing the new wave of feminism and SJW around this time after all. | /r/MGTOW | 30/10/19 05:56 PM |
| 2 | [Article] Women's insane arrogance here in FranceI almost never see this. And I've been here for a fairly long time. I don't know where you have been but it was probably the exception. | /r/MGTOW | 30/10/19 05:51 PM |
| 4 | I wonder how many "good girls" really weren't so goodNot even grey? I thought they'd make an exception for this. | /r/MGTOW | 30/10/19 03:52 PM |
| 5 | I wonder how many "good girls" really weren't so goodMost. /thread I dated a ton of (in fact ONLY) nawalt, and they turned out to be worse than the others once the whole deal was secure/when they had anything to gain by being assholes and whores since nowadays you don't even need to keep appearances clean anymore. Some others weren't even "good" to begin with but certainly tried to market themselves as such. Be wary of chameleons, they're more common than men think. NAWALT is just a phase, at most. It "exists" but it's mostly a ghost than can disa… | /r/MGTOW | 30/10/19 03:48 PM |
| 11 | Great and relevant comic by Zach WeinersmithDegeneracy being praised and marketed, as always. Kavanaugh comes to mind. | /r/MGTOW | 30/10/19 03:42 PM |
| 12 | [Article] Women's insane arrogance here in FranceThe very fact that she's wiling to appeal really tells you everything you need to know. Hey, what's wrong about basically scamming both your employer and the law at once? For the ones that don't know, koh lanta is basically survivor very lite. Then again any french person will probably know that french women are on a whole new level. Particularly any that has been near Paris at any point of her life, or had too much contact with parisian culture. It cranks up their already stellar arrogance to u… | /r/MGTOW | 30/10/19 03:28 PM |
| 5 | This is how men support environment. Not by yelling people :hOw dArE yOu?It's funny how "be a real man and [...]" can only be used when they decide that it's right. As one person in the post said, if anything it's a jab at greta and her "militantism". Yeah, real men support the environment this way, deal with it. Not by using crocodile tears. So maybe these women should man up as well (suddenly, they don't like this sentence that much anymore, do they?) | /r/MGTOW | 30/10/19 03:11 PM |
| 7 | Seen this on Instagram . Even the simps are waking upI misread your anwser at first but when I think about it said misread was also interesting; basically stuff like IG and FB are men's tutorial into today's gynocentric world. It's the very first level where female abuse of their power is absolutely obvious, and then you go through the other levels called "reality" with this knowledge as well and start noticing it as well. Internet is a giant tutorial for guys. | /r/MGTOW | 30/10/19 12:46 PM |
| 2 | Don't charge us, because we have mood swings (and a vagina ofcourse)First, not "throughout the month". You look stupid saying this. It's a fucking daily cycle for men. Second, look like you haven't seen a lot of people using their periods to justify a ton of bad behaviour. Consider yourself lucky. Yes, it's extremely common, I'd almost say more common than the opposite when something needs an excuse. You're the dumb one. Also, the difference is that men don't ask for, and wouldn't get anyway, a joker card for this. Hell, fucking Italy was discussing having paid … | /r/MGTOW | 29/10/19 06:19 PM |
| 4 | Don't charge us, because we have mood swings (and a vagina ofcourse)Yeah men also have an "hormonal cycle" but a more or less daily one, as opposed to women's. So yeah, going by thir bullshit excues you could use "your hormones" to justify crap in the same way women on period do. "It's not my fault that I punched you, it was just a peak of T that made me aggressive!". Or you can just be a responsible member of society. That one may be too hard for them though. | /r/MGTOW | 29/10/19 06:13 PM |
| 5 | all my exes in a nutshellIn my case I often was the one starting up the fight. Being used when the person feels like it or needs you and treated like trash the rest of the time without any exception, being lied to constantly and having to play retarded games gets a bit tiring over time (not counting crap like manipulation and gaslighting that are par the course too), so I'd give them a chance to discuss it and explain themselves since I still cared, which always ended up in them blowing up instead of discussing the prob… | /r/MGTOW | 29/10/19 12:48 AM |
| 26 | You guys ever notice that most women are just straight up rude ass bitches?Same deal as always. During your formative years, as a man, most of the time, you'll get a punch in the face if you are too rude/if you are too disrespectful of someone for no good reason. Women don't go through this (which is why it's also always funny to see their reactions when they get "treated as a man") because "muh don't hit a woman", gynocentrism, and other crap. As a result, how they see respect is completely screwed, something that can be easily observed. That's also the reason they th… | /r/MGTOW | 28/10/19 11:30 PM |
| 1 | So guys should pay for everything because you spend too much money on things that aren’t necessary. Exactly why MGTOWMeanwhile, they only use makeup for themselves, not for others. What she means here is that you owe it to her because she allows you to see her like that, hence you must compensate. They never run out of doublespeak. | /r/MGTOW | 28/10/19 08:59 PM |
| 2 | the one time feminism fails 😂LGBTQ+ are a joke anyway. Constantly eating at each other and there's a clear hierarchy in it (with bi being at the bottom because lesbians constantly whine about how they're just "indecisive", "go everywhere" and more importantly steal their partners, something that they hate and muh oppression.) Let's not talk about how MtF trans are treated by the others, which is also a very good joke. In fact the evil "cis and straight people", most notable with males since they are seen as the devil, are p… | /r/MGTOW | 28/10/19 08:47 PM |
| 3 | A girl cannot bear the feeling that she is't being chased or wantedThe comments are where it's at. Seeing this level of hamsterization is amazing. | /r/MGTOW | 28/10/19 08:39 PM |
| 3 | How are those post wall so out of touch with realityThanks you for proving our arguments about gynocentrism and female privilege and reiterating them, miss. Also, "loneliness isn't a problem because we have a vagina so we can create someone else"? First, you need a man for that, second, thanks for proving that kids are merely tools you use to satisfy your own desires. Once again, it's nice to see them prove what is said here. And yet more gynocentrism and it ends with a ridiculous statistic that forgets to mention that women's happiness as a whol… | /r/MGTOW | 27/10/19 11:22 AM |
| 1 | Boys, it just fucking happened my whore if an ex girlfriend called me back. Crying ahahaI don't know if I sould feel lucky or not to have exes that were not THAT psychotic. Probably not, since I got an heavy dose of psychological manipulation and constant hell while fighting to the end to try to fix things instead, but damn. Daring to come back when she's pregnant with another man is absolutely ridiculous, did she expect that someone she destroyed in the past would just accept under these conditions? So arrogant. They could at least TRY to be subtle at this point, because when it's… | /r/MGTOW | 27/10/19 11:10 AM |
| 2 | To my narcissistic ex...Good old "I can fix it!" mentality. The ""problem"" is that if men all applied that, they would all be celibate because there would be no "good women" left. | /r/MGTOW | 27/10/19 03:41 AM |
| 2 | To my narcissistic ex...You'd be surprised. Extremely surprised. Narc are often quite something. | /r/MGTOW | 27/10/19 03:39 AM |
| 1 | Gender inequality is real, they just have it twistedAnd these idiots are just too stupid to notice that it's just the good old divide and conquer (and it doesn't just apply to sexism but also to racism and a ton of dicriminations) again and again. Well, they can do whatever they want, we're not going to ruin our life trying to reason with these stupid walls since it's pretty much a lost cause. | /r/MGTOW | 27/10/19 02:52 AM |
| 9 | A rare sight into social media, from the perspective of an average womanWait until you put a ring on her, then her true colors will show. The only good part of "empowerment" is that they often don't often wait for the marriage to show you how they really are anymore nowadays. We should thank feminists for it, it's really useful to get a glimpse of the entitlement, pride, real values, need for absolute control, and of how valuable you really are when you are put against their narcissism early. Thanks, feminism. Not even joking about this. By wanting to "empower" othe… | /r/MGTOW | 27/10/19 02:39 AM |
| 1 | A rare sight into social media, from the perspective of an average womanno, it’s really not. just because y’all haven’t found true love yet doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist for most people. one day you’ll have it, and you’ll look back at the mindset you have now and see how off this thinking is. love is out there for everyone :))) God, that sounds absolutely pathetic. Also just because y’all haven’t found true love What a bold statement, despite the fact that you have no idea and that most people here probably have more experience than you about this and about the REAL… | /r/MGTOW | 27/10/19 02:33 AM |
| 2 | SJW nightmares coming trueIt was probably rated R because of the "fear that it will cause more school shootings" and other crap like that. That's the propaganda they've been using since the very beginning of this witch hunt, to the point where even the army got on it. The Army e-mail explained that incels “idolize the Joker character, the violent clown from the Batman series” — an angry loner who turns to violence after too much rejection. They also like “his depiction as a man who must pretend to be happy but eventually… | /r/MGTOW | 27/10/19 02:23 AM |
| 5 | SJW nightmares coming trueWhite male being destroyed by society and turning psychotic because of it. Think about it in a "school shooters are not created by guns and a bad person alone, but also other people who have a hand in this because of their shitty behaviour and tendencies to use others as scapegoats to feel better themselves" way. The white male took everything upon himself including serious aggressions until he broke. They would have LOVED it if this movie if it was about a woman or any other "minority", but say… | /r/MGTOW | 27/10/19 02:13 AM |
| 1 | A sane man redpilling in the bluepill field. The outcry in the comments are hilarious.Yeah, just more scapegoating. While I studied psychology myself and find the field interesting (although you have to filter a ton of crap in it that doesn't make logical sense or is just heavily biased/closer to a belief than anything else) a ton of people working it it absolutely SHOULDN'T work in it and that's the biggest problem. Not to mention that psychology in france is among the wrst you'll find in the world; when you look at how autism is "treated" in france it's a complete joke. It's al… | /r/MGTOW | 25/10/19 06:59 PM |
| 3 | A sane man redpilling in the bluepill field. The outcry in the comments are hilarious.To be honest it's not just limited to school, but this is probably where this problem is the most obvious. People have an hard time with the whole "actions have consequences, and mean responsibilities" thing and would rather choose a scapegoat without thinking about what in their own actions could have had a role in this. Because ultimately they don't give a damn about ACTUALLY solving the problem, especially if it means having to think about their actions, they just want an easy culprit and cal… | /r/MGTOW | 25/10/19 06:36 PM |
| 3 | A sane man redpilling in the bluepill field. The outcry in the comments are hilarious.Whether people like it or not, they have a share of responsibilities in how others' react. That's how societ works, and you can't have an healthy society otherwise. Just because you refuse to see the responsibilities in your actions, it doesn't mean that they don't exist or that the other just has to "deal with it" and if he can't even if what he's going through is hell, it's his fault. Otherwise, it's not any different from the sacrificial systems that were used in the past. The "he needs a psy… | /r/MGTOW | 25/10/19 06:24 PM |
| 1 | Play stupid games, win stupid prizesIt will tear her up inside. Her mind will spin a thousand scenarios- blaming herself, blaming you, blaming her parents, she will be convinced of a thousand things and will never know what the real reason is. Some optimism here. She'll blame a thousand of things, most of which will be irrelevant, but certainly not herself, ironically enough. The only times they do is when they can still shift the blame on you in one way or another. By the way I find it funny that they can be, as you said, SO fixa… | /r/MGTOW | 25/10/19 10:40 AM |
| 3 | I hope this sub never goes awayThat's the funny part about them criticizing mgtow and saying that they are "hateful" or "frustrated" (no offense to the ones who said that as well in the thread, it's just my personal take on it). Aside from some people that are still stuck in the rage phase and others that are just black humor, at their core, most threads here are just men talking about their own experiences and realizing that no, it wasn't just "bad luck" and their 100% perfect unicorn was far from the only that ended up bein… | /r/MGTOW | 25/10/19 02:57 AM |
| 11 | Play stupid games, win stupid prizesIt's just poor long-term thinking and wanting to be the ones in control of everything at all time without the rationality to actually back it up. When, during your whole life, you've learned that you can get away with everything compared to a man, you become used to having things go YOUR way and the whole world just has to deal with it, and it will work because some people (including us in the past I guess) were stupid enough to care; just good old egocentrism and lack of empathy because they kn… | /r/MGTOW | 25/10/19 02:27 AM |
| 15 | Play stupid games, win stupid prizesBeen here, done that, got the t-shirt, more often than once, too. That's completely true. Although in my case they still used the situation to complain, even about the apologies as well.... buuuut once you stop apologizing and just ST'd them back because fuck it (even if it's only for a few days compared to them and only because you're focused on something else, not to play stupid games to remind you that you're replaceable like them) suddenly you're a terrible and abusive person and they use th… | /r/MGTOW | 25/10/19 01:59 AM |
| 5 | There you go.You're missing the ridiculous support she got for this though. Nobody here is doing that, but nobody here has even half of the support she had to do this, she's not a random person, this part is always conveniently forgotten by the medias. Most of the work was actually done by whatever organization that spotted her, don't remember its name. She's no "hero". As an autistic person at this age she most certainly isn't able to do this herself and wouldn't if not pushed into something she doesn't und… | /r/MGTOW | 24/10/19 06:38 AM |
| 2 | There you go.That's exactly my point, yes, which I why I mentioned it. You're the one making it an anti-women thing when the problem is the ones deciding of these kind of things and the fact of these literally using people and disabilities/emotional language to manipulate the public opinion instead of doing their job properly. The whole greta phenomenon is a catastrophe, mainly because it worked, which means that you can make any kind of nonsense work if you make a little autistic girl cry about it since peo… | /r/MGTOW | 24/10/19 06:15 AM |
| 1 | There you go.These are the fact. It's a part of her speech, the one most people will remember, which was literally only filled with emotional reactions. "You ruined my childhood!!" and other crap like that. Meanwhile, most of the serious subject that actually mattered were carefully ignored, again, nothing tangible and nothing more than what has been said for years by millions of people. Again, the whole thing was her throwing a tantrum like millions of people already did before. Which in absolutely no way w… | /r/MGTOW | 24/10/19 06:02 AM |
| 1 | There you go.You are the one seeing it as anti-women just because it is here, hence why it is about you. This is first and foremost a political and societal problem, and despite this your first reaction is "muh anti-women". As I said, if it seems anti-women to you, when making fun of Greta that basically only throwed a tantrum (something millions of people already did before her) and was despite this acclaimed for it is something normal and good, the problem is on you, this post isn't "anti-women" just becau… | /r/MGTOW | 24/10/19 05:47 AM |
| 0 | There you go.If anything the attack here is on the ones nominating the nobel prize, genius, Greta can't nominate herself and it's well-known that NP are a joke nowadays. And as for the fact that she didn't do anything of value and so people are, shock, saying it, well, it's the case, so what do you want to add? She's just the embodiment of the problem right now, moreso because of autism than her gender though but both are used, but she's not the first one, Obama getting the nobel prize for peace was equally … | /r/MGTOW | 24/10/19 01:58 AM |
| 13 | There you go.Because now stating facts is anti-female. See, this is how it's easy to see that you're the problem. You need a SERIOUSLY twisted mind to interpret this as anti-female. Making fun of the whole Greta mess is legitimate, particularly with their stupid "muh it's an aspie!!" thing they're also pushing to endear people. Her being a female doesn't make it anti-female when it's about facts and manipulation of the masses. And here we're ultimately talking about politics and how they're using pathos to l… | /r/MGTOW | 24/10/19 01:23 AM |
| 28 | It is what it isThis is the important part. Anything you will say that makes you vulnerable, WILL be used against you as soon as it's needed, even if they need to twist is for it to make any sense. Any woman. Yeah, stupid lurker, it includes your unicorn, she just hasn't found a worthy enough opportunity to shot, since it'd blow her cover. Ultimately, this "men should show their feelings" was one of their most disgusting move, since men usually do agree with this and end up being manipulated and destroyed once … | /r/MGTOW | 24/10/19 12:39 AM |
| 5 | Another one bites the dust. Beta male blues.Exactly. That's why falling for the first chameleon like this dude did is ridiculous. Oldest trick in the book. If a predator isn't completely stupid it will not show its fangs immediatly. And when said predator get the support of pretty much the whole world once you fall for it instead of being punished for it, being cautious even around "the ones that aren't like that!!!" (that BP cucks always talk about here when they're brigading) isn't being paranoid, it's absolutely required for survival. | /r/MGTOW | 24/10/19 12:29 AM |
| 8 | Another one bites the dust. Beta male blues.I did, unfairness of family courts, 80/20, everything, you name it and she was against it and disgusted by it... and she ended up as bad as all the other ones if not a LOT worse, I just can't imagine how bad it would have been if she actually was desperate enough to seek a BB yet, when it was useful for her own agenda in the end, she was ok with abusing the fact that "women are always right" "men are abusive" etc, whatever. Some of them will argue against it. Argue is the keyword. If there actua… | /r/MGTOW | 24/10/19 12:16 AM |
| 2 | Silence is their weaponShe was in the bed at the same time as them, it was a threesome. They totally didn't do anything though. | /r/MGTOW | 23/10/19 10:45 AM |
| 1 | Silence is their weaponYes, and in more ways than one to be honest. I'm sure a lot of us are familiar with the silent treatment, that is pretty terrible when you're still in your BP days, while you are busting your ass and ruining your mind trying to fix things rationally as adults are supposed to do otherwise society would be a constant war zone, talking to a wall because as a rational being you're a damn problem solver, and not a problem creator. And yeah, the only way they even manage to function in their day-to-da… | /r/MGTOW | 23/10/19 10:34 AM |
| 2 | 70%-80% of marriages in the US are filed by women.You're awfully optimistic. Can't help someone that isn't willing to listen and who will make the same mistake again and again, enabling this kind of mentality in the process. The reason the red pill only works when given by women if because other men usually tried to feed it to the guy before but he spat it out, sometimes very violently. Not because nobody tried. Also, not our job to take care of this. It can be a nice little hobby on the side, sure, but nothing worth wasting your time about whe… | /r/MGTOW | 22/10/19 04:36 PM |
| 3 | I am not relationship materialAka unconscious application of briffault's law. They can hate it all they want because they don't even notice that they're doing it, it's still the truth. And the funniest part is when you actually catch one of them NOT doing it and use it against her later if the situation requires it. You can see her going in full panic mode and being full of regrets because of this ""mistake"", noticing that she's lost this carrot and trying to hamster her way out of it with everything she has. It's actually … | /r/MGTOW | 22/10/19 04:22 PM |
| 2 | I am not relationship materialThe only ones I've seen that were fine with "equality", as in, not asking for special treatment, were the ones that were far too prideful to ask for the opposite - which came with its own problems, since said pride made them absolutely unable to concede anything and do their part in the give-and-take process of any social relationship (which means actually trying to work on their own bad behaviour and how they act and "are", since apparently learning to become a better person is oppressive, and … | /r/MGTOW | 22/10/19 04:10 PM |
| 1 | Hmmm, have I taken too many red pills or is it reasonable to believe this is only a topic because majority of student debt is women ?And, playing captain obvious here, conveniently enough, the age at which you tend to get a student debt is close to the age where you just got the right to vote, while still being stupid enough to believe even more bullshit (the age doesn't help and has its importance, https://www.urmc.rochester.edu/encyclopedia/content.aspx?ContentTypeID=1&ContentID=3051 ) The rational part of a teen’s brain isn’t fully developed and won’t be until age 25 or so. In fact, recent research has found that adult and… | /r/MGTOW | 22/10/19 04:37 AM |
| 1 | Truth is hard to faceYou assume a lot of things when it comes to family, friendship or "love", that can all make you more "alone" than you've ever been, and more often than not will over time. Hence the illusion part by the way. There is no contradiction here. You're the one nitpicking the meaning, but let's go with many of them for the sake of the argument. Unless to you it has to means "absolutely never seeing another human anywhere near you", which is stupid to no end, what you're saying comes out of nowhere. Alo… | /r/MGTOW | 22/10/19 03:25 AM |
| 1 | Man goes his own way = self-actualizationWhat a retard. Sure. So people are calling women worthless, hypocritical and "toxic" because they are then. Problem solved. Likewise, religion basically considered women as property that you must control otherwise they'll ruin everything and everyone for centuries because it was a die-hard fact that everyone knew and that was 100% right, making all of this right as well. Surely there is no other factor into play here. Your logic sounds absolutly great. I like it. Another one that doesn't know wh… | /r/MGTOW | 21/10/19 11:18 PM |
| 8 | An interesting reality of the worsening situation in JapanIn other news, water is wet. Although this person seems to believe that women are better outside of japan, which is equally ridiculous ("japanese women feel entitled to a guy's money after they start dating him"? Really? That's women everywhere, the only difference is that japanese ones try to use the tradcon aspect of the culture to justify it. Western ones splitting expenses equally? what the fuck are you smoking? I want some, seems like good stuff). AWALT means AWALT. They just mask it in dif… | /r/MGTOW | 21/10/19 02:01 AM |
| 5 | Embrace the 2DGrape-kun agrees. https://goboiano.com/japan-puts-anime-in-zoo-and-penguin-adopts-a-waifu/ | /r/MGTOW | 17/10/19 06:10 PM |
| 2 | Embrace the 2DNot to mention that our healthcare is forced to pay for immigrants, even illegal ones, if they have any health problems. That's already a debatable thing by itself since it's incredibly easy to abuse even if you don't plan on staying in france, but I've recently heard that there has been cases where even things like fuckin mammary implants counted as this, "psychological problem" and all that therefore it had to be "fixed". Uhh yeah, ok? | /r/MGTOW | 17/10/19 06:07 PM |
| 1 | muh man guess which one you are ? hmmmm i wonder who gets his wallets ripped out through his asshole 80% of the time in a devorce.I really liked this show until "this" episode in S2 ( 8,"the" scene everyone is fawning about with 8 wanting "the real thing" ) but I can't even find the motivation to continue it after that. Not to mention that I bought the first 6 novels (didn't have the time to read them yet), which feels like a waste now, but after that I REALLY don't feel like watching the next episode and more importantly buying anything after that part.. That was one HELL of a cop-out and not what I expected and if that's… | /r/MGTOW | 17/10/19 03:11 AM |
| 3 | For some reason I can't x-post this, but it profoundly disappoints me...Make that unsolicited nudes that you never asked for but women gotta AW and we have a win. | /r/MGTOW | 16/10/19 01:02 PM |
| 2 | Transgenders"No longer wanting to become a girl" is when it goes well, in one case (which, admittedly wasn't caused by transexuality but by a botched circumcision that did lead into a boy growing up as a girl) the person just killed itself growing up. Regardless of the specific it shouldn't be allowed anyway because idiots are actively PUSHING for it, which means that a parent could force its own agenda (and it's pretty easy to make a child say that he wants something when you're the driving force behind al… | /r/MGTOW | 16/10/19 12:08 AM |
| 4 | TransgendersI see them however they want if they're not assholes. I include anyone trying to force other people into any kind of "progressivist" BS that goes further than "respecting people" into this bunch. If they are and ride on the SJW train EXPECTING everyone to do whatever they want, then whatever, I don't give a fuck about your prefered pronoun and whatever. Someone that deserves respect deserves respect no matter their life choices, and when it comes to the other ones, I have no reason to care about… | /r/MGTOW | 16/10/19 12:00 AM |
| 1 | Women will slut around their entire life but will want to settle down with some normal dude once they've hit the wall?They can't. You're failing to take women's standards into account. They COULD if the 80/20 rule didn't exist and if they didn't follow it with everything they have, sure, but for most of them it's almost as natural as breathing so even when their value is severely lowered they are unable to adapt. | /r/MGTOW | 15/10/19 11:34 PM |
| 3 | Counter-points to "MGTOW is a hate group." - save, copy, and paste!And that's also the main reason yellow vests are "at risk" of coming back at any moment if people think that it is needed and things are going too far. In the same way, even if you somehow miraculously managed to "erase" mgtow, it'd still come back later since it's just a natural reaction. It's more or less immortal and can revive from anything. | /r/MGTOW | 15/10/19 11:28 PM |
| 1 | The French government is moving to subsidize baby makingWhy do you think they are constantly conflating the two here instead of talking about them in a separate manner? information manipulation 101. Protests for gay marriage has been huge years ago in france so they're using this to make single motherhood seem "normal" in people's head. If you agree with one side of what they're proposing it must mean that the other side isn't that bad neither, right? | /r/MGTOW | 14/10/19 04:12 PM |
| 1 | #metoo clownworld tweetsNo, that's just one single example out of many. Women are just as entitled (if not even moreso somehow, thanks to the typical french arogance) and privileged than in the US otherwise, this thot has been defended by pretty much everyone in the medias because "muh patriarchy" for starter, she's just the exception, not the rule. | /r/MGTOW | 14/10/19 04:07 PM |
| 1 | Les français MGTOW, how are you doing in France?women are less feminist than in the us or other european countries Yeah and no, the reason women less are less feminists is because a lot of the things feminists ask are already expected culturally here anyway. And nowadays it's getting worse and worse; just look at the various official ad campaigns by schiappa. So yeah, ultimately it's even worse than when you left. Although nowadays employement is even more of a problem than insecurity, and that mean something since I DON'T mean that insecurit… | /r/MGTOW | 14/10/19 04:05 PM |
| 5 | Les français MGTOW, how are you doing in France?Fun fact: getting a paternity test without the mother's consent is illegal because "it will be bad for the child and it's the child that matters". Meanwhile, we're in the process of voting for a law that'll allow single (straight) women to get a child through medically assisted procreation (paid by the state) because apparently this wouldn't be bad for the child. Yeah. Oh, and some are starting to discuss removing anonymity for sperm donors as well. We're getting more cucked day by day. | /r/MGTOW | 14/10/19 04:02 PM |
| 1 | On r/FemaleDatingStrategy, who want to explain to her ?She wants to make sure that her ex knows that he dodged one hell of a bullet and that she's a thot and was a mistake for him? That's really nice of her. | /r/MGTOW | 14/10/19 02:42 AM |
| 4 | Experienced people stay singleGiven some comments here, it's likely that this thread is being brigaded. | /r/MGTOW | 13/10/19 08:45 PM |
| 1 | Gillette Backs Out Of The SJW Game After Losing 8 BILLION USDWhat's surprising is that the brand's perception dropped significantly in the UK evem though the ad campaign was aimed at the US market. It's not surprising in the least. I'm neither from uk nor us, and I'm still saying fuck you to gilette, and it has spread a bit through word of mouth. Basically, since the "core" of the company is assumed to be from the US, "lower" countries will react in the same way since it could mean that it's a general idea that could end up appearing here as well. Youtube… | /r/MGTOW | 12/10/19 09:47 PM |
| 0 | Shut upBecause seeing a burn is entertaining, no matter the gender or religion involved. You could argue that it has nothing to do with mgtow, but that's what people really care about, even the ones that couldn't give any less of a fuck about religion or the heavily religious ones. People just find it funny because she trapped herself and that's it, it could work with anything. I'm fairly sure most people here don't care about the overall subject more than that, although there will always be nutjobs tr… | /r/MGTOW | 12/10/19 02:17 PM |
| 1 | Wow... can’t trust anything these daysI'll let the "they're not the majority" slide since it'd be a fruitless debate anyway. More importantly, you're ignoring the societal aspect of the problem, which is possibly THE most important one, since it is means two things. 1/ people easily influencing each other tend to have very negative effects on them, which is another part of why your "minority" is nonsense. Individuality is great, but you're conveniently ignoring social and societal influence on women, which on average is stronger, wo… | /r/MGTOW | 11/10/19 05:32 PM |
| 1 | Wow... can’t trust anything these daysYeah sure, because making a false comparison like you are doing is better in any way. Not all women sell pregnancy test, it doesn't mean anything about what the other people were saying at all, and if you refuse to recognize the problems caused by both society and biological differences, that's on you. Not our job to educate you about what you absolutely refuse to see, particularly because you see it as something that couldn't possibly be based on reality to begin with so there's no use arguing … | /r/MGTOW | 11/10/19 12:51 PM |
| 0 | Wow... can’t trust anything these daysThat's the one part none of them want to believe, so they resort to stupid shaming and ignore it instead. "Muh you say this because you don't interact with women/don't know anything about them". Yeah sure, or maybe we know them beyond their facaden, while you don't, not to mention that "one girlfriend" is a ridiculous excuse to show that you "know women". But I guess that's a little hard to understand for them. Now we wouldn't gaf, if only they just stayed the fuck out instead of feeling entitle… | /r/MGTOW | 11/10/19 12:42 PM |
| 1 | Simple explanationIt's a page on psychologytoday about how "is ignorance bliss?" | /r/MGTOW | 11/10/19 12:36 PM |
| 2 | Lonely, burned out, depressed: The state of millennials mental healthAs a millennial, it was pretty much the case before finding mgtow. I'm talking about depressed to the point where suicide attempt is included in the package. Now it's pretty much the exact opposite. Being fully free from the pressure and from how psychotic people always are is heaven. If more men realized this, their mental health would be so much better. The key in life is to learn how not to give a shit, and realize that everyone is fuelled by their own selfish desires no matter how "nice" the… | /r/MGTOW | 11/10/19 12:20 PM |
| 3 | Always start your LTRs on a foundation of lies because men’s fragile egos can’t handle our empowered slutty pastsIt's kind of amazing how they manage to translate "they'll decide that you are worthless and have a bad set of ethics and habits, which isn't what they're looking for" into "O.M.G. IF HE WANTS TO KNOW HE'S SO INSECUUUUUUURE". It's impressive in its own right. | /r/MGTOW | 11/10/19 12:12 AM |
| 3 | I just heard this on the radio as a commercial about domestic violence.I feel like these statistics are correct. Has anyone heard about this website where they get their data from?This. These stats don't include psychological violence. | /r/MGTOW | 11/10/19 12:07 AM |
| 1 | The problem with incels is that they crave female validation. All of their self-harm is based upon this one fact. Poor souls, pained by women. I genuinely feel for them, but they don't even see the root of all their problems and unhappiness - The desire for validation of females. Instead of being...Nobody owes you sex. If you are ugly fuck ugly people. Thanks for proving that you don't know shit about both life and women. | /r/MGTOW | 10/10/19 11:57 PM |
| 4 | Good choiceOne is a species we should protect, the other is a dangerous species that is a threat to everyone around. Easy choice. | /r/MGTOW | 09/10/19 03:27 AM |
| 3 | \_(' . ')_/There is, it's r/LucidDreaming/ | /r/MGTOW | 07/10/19 11:13 PM |
| 3 | \_(' . ')_/You'll see a lot of weird things if you really get into it and manage to get it right, it can also be an eye-opener about yourself in some ways, that's why psychonautics are fascinating. Yeah, I've already seen this fact and people disagreeing with it because of their own experiences where they met "faces" that couldn't possibly exist IRL (think impossible hair color or otherthings, etc), well, it's a part of this "we really don't know shit about dreams and about how the brain work" I was talkin… | /r/MGTOW | 07/10/19 11:01 PM |
| 3 | \_(' . ')_/Once you get used to it it's pretty easy to use it to "jump" into the dream yeah, and being freaked out by it only make things even harder. It's the best to get a really "vivid" and stable dream anyway so yeah, and after a while you can just skip the SP part altogether. But yeah your comment is great, a lot of people EXPECT it to be terrible because that's what everyone is saying so it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy for them which scare them away from it. | /r/MGTOW | 07/10/19 10:55 PM |
| 3 | \_(' . ')_/I've personally used quite a few sites about it like off the top of my head https://www.luciddreamsociety.com/ (yeah it looks like one of these "buy our book" website but look into the "article" part at the top, that's where the good thing is) and some forums like the forums of www.dreamviews.com . It's been a while, but r/LucidDreaming isn't bad neither from what I can remember, and the acronyms you might not understand are in the sidebar. | /r/MGTOW | 07/10/19 10:47 PM |
| 2 | \_(' . ')_/Wasn't it an example used in american dad (haven't seen it, but I've read about this thing) where it was used this way, that therefore it got shared to oblivion and entered the subconscious of everyone that has seen about it? It tends to happen a lot with dreaming/lucid dreaming, you get influenced by what you've seen about it beforehand. | /r/MGTOW | 07/10/19 10:36 PM |
| 4 | \_(' . ')_/I'm guessing your question is about sleep paralysis, not lucid dreaming? (since you can obviously control these ones, that's the point) You can influence them by calming down, and it can be used as a stepping stone to "jump" into a dream this way by accepting it and trying to "leave your body" this way (this astral projection but without the supernatural crap, basically). So yeah you can control it to an extend after you learn to stay calm during it. I personally find SP ok after the first time … | /r/MGTOW | 07/10/19 10:33 PM |
| 9 | \_(' . ')_/It can happen if you "do it wrong" (trying to stay awake "mentally" while you let your body falls asleep; that's not what you're supposed to do although it's a bit hard to explain without going through it honestly). And it will probably happen in your first tries, which is indeed not funny, having "hallucinations" (which are only part of the dream) while your body is paralized is quite surprising; I remember auditory hallucinations from hard times in my life that were quite something. But you ge… | /r/MGTOW | 07/10/19 10:08 PM |
| 98 | \_(' . ')_/It does. It can be hard to master, but when you manage to do it, it's quite impressive. Although you usually need to go through quite a few rounds of sleep paralysis until you manage to get it right. | /r/MGTOW | 07/10/19 09:08 PM |
| 2 | Just saw jokerThere's an huge gap between encouraging something and understanding it; and people always ignore the second possibility that, sadly enough, would be the most useful one for society as a whole. By understanding something, you can fix what is broken instead of letting things get even worse (and it's not always just about the person concerned, reality is a lot more complicated than that) and completely out-of-control. Understanding something isn't condoning it at all. Refusing to see this is, thoug… | /r/MGTOW | 07/10/19 06:58 PM |
| 2 | Just saw jokerThis honestly sums it up very well. Just try talking to anyone about school shooting and about how other people than the shooter sometimes have a part of responsibilities in it. Kids that has been bullied by pretty much everyone without any support, and where the people pretty much torturing them, physically or psychologically, still dared to make it look like they're "good people". People will be absolutely horrified by that because "No, I'm an angel, even if I did terrible things I'm in no way… | /r/MGTOW | 07/10/19 06:49 PM |
| 1 | Why society say MGTOW men are losers and why this is bullshitcan you honestly say you would not change a thing about your life right now? Everyone has things they want to "improve" and that's what life is all about. It doesn't mean that one should overlook the damage women can cause, or how much women are overrated and seen as something "needed" by society; in other words how much society overlook how much of a matriarchal society we are living in. By the way, you can be happy AND post here BECAUSE you don't want other people to suffer the same fate as yo… | /r/MGTOW | 06/10/19 03:48 AM |
| 1 | 4chan Made a Female Analyzer and it's Super Accurate!I'd still be wary of a -20% one; "perfection" is unlikely in this world after all. But this is great 4chan. Worked with my exes. | /r/MGTOW | 06/10/19 02:37 AM |
| 1 | Where's the "Hollywood Weight Chart" for women?The whole thing is a mess since the first post was also about men themselves not giving a damn as ong as women aren't concerned (where indeed the problem is that they would still give a damn, but STILL not because they care themselves though, because of pressure from our natural bias instead), so yeah, there's basically 3 different subjects in 3 posts, no wonder nobody is agreeing with anyone. I noticed that it happens quite often here. | /r/MGTOW | 05/10/19 12:25 PM |
| 1 | Where's the "Hollywood Weight Chart" for women?To be more accurate women do stock fat in different places (e.g. more subcutaneous fat) but that's about it, the only thing that could make it easier for men to lose it could be due to muscle tissue and T (and even this is arguable, some sources will tell you that women tend to burn more fat during exercice). Nevertheless it's not significant enough in the long term for it to really matter as long as you're not eating junk food every single day. The women that were way thinner decades ago weren'… | /r/MGTOW | 05/10/19 12:19 PM |
| 1 | Where's the "Hollywood Weight Chart" for women?Obviously it matters to society, same deal as the usual "pretty privilege". What this guy said is that the guy HIMSELF wouldn't give a damn about it if he wasn't made self-aware of it. It feels like you're arguing about two different things. | /r/MGTOW | 05/10/19 12:05 PM |
| 1 | Women hit the wall by 40. Anti-depressant use skyrockets.Still ignoring the elephant in the room. | /r/MGTOW | 05/10/19 12:00 PM |
| 2 | Women hit the wall by 40. Anti-depressant use skyrockets.Although I do agree, with these ones, your wallet is honestly only a secondary concern, you're at risk of fucking up your own mental health completely if you get too serious about it. There's only so much one can handle, and it's even truer when it's about self-inflicted problems that you, therefore, will never be able to fix no matter how hard you try since nobody else is trying to and you're trying to shoulder the burden for someone just doing everything to make it worse. It's dangerous for yo… | /r/MGTOW | 05/10/19 02:06 AM |
| 2 | Women hit the wall by 40. Anti-depressant use skyrockets.Because life is made of hardships you'll be forced to conquer, so while a little help might be ok, you're not supposed to be reliant on it because the world will never work the way you want to about everything? This is the very mentality that is ruining these people's lives, not that you'd notice. Also, this kind of meds do a lot more than "making you feel good"; and I'm not talking about "good side-effects" here. That's the reason they aren't supposed to be taken for a long time, granted, this … | /r/MGTOW | 05/10/19 01:17 AM |
| 6 | Why do women think acting like a man will attract a man? They talk, dress, fuck, and even eat like men. News flash: Men want to date a WOMAN, not another manNah, that's actually complicated and not compatible with being the center of the whole world/being free to do anything you want to anyone/etc. So they don't even compute it. And remember, men are evil monsters so acting like a man just means that you're free to act like a complete jerk that'd get jail time for it. Men don't have these qualities, after all, they're feminine qualities, right?! | /r/MGTOW | 03/10/19 10:33 PM |
| 12 | Some highly upvoted comments in the r/femaledatingstrategy stickied threadMen are our slaves. Never forget that. And then they are the one complaining about mgtow is "hating on women", whe they're usually doing it for a reason; talking about gynocentrism or double-standards, etc. Aside, MAYBE and even this isn't that severe compared to slavery, from the comments about how women shouldn't have the right to vote, you'd be hard-pressed to find posts like this here. Sure, I'll enjoy being a mean retarded bigot hater, thank you very much. Also, remember that TRP isbeing de… | /r/MGTOW | 03/10/19 10:21 PM |
| 1 | When your ex tries to come back 😂Well, feminism was a blessing for a society based on ultra-consumerism to begin with so there's that. If someone's love life isn't doing well, you can sell a ton of magazines, books, or counselling to them to make things "work better", while someone stable with an happy life will be less profitable, so yeah. And it's pretty much how the market works nowadays; I remember samsung saying, about one of their phone (don't remember which one) because people said that [x] function was useless, that "pe… | /r/MGTOW | 02/10/19 10:40 PM |
| 1 | Millenial & Gen-Z women are screwed up nowadays. Wrong, women have always been difficult to deal with for men no matter what generation.I don't like Eva, and even then I still think this is an insult to Asuka. Tsunderes are at least somewhat worthwhile SOMETIMES (hilariously enough the concept of tsundere ALSO evolved A LOT over time; https://i.redd.it/b1epcg29o0ty.jpg . If you assume that the blue parts of modern ones aren't just "being moody" but are times where manipulation to get something kicks in, does it reminds you of something? And even without this it fits quite well with your interpretation of modern dynamics) I blame… | /r/MGTOW | 02/10/19 10:32 PM |
| 1 | When your ex tries to come back 😂To be fair it's mainly an extension of another problem you will almost always find in the last generations: way too much egocentrism, hedonism, a lack of care for things like principles (lying and deception is pretty much revered nowadays; despite the fact that it doesn't allow you to evolve in the long run; "the easiest way is the best") and an inability to deal with adversity/a COMPLETE lack of problem-solving skills (something you'll see in just about everything, it's easier to expect someone… | /r/MGTOW | 02/10/19 10:17 PM |
| 1 | It’s weird when they complain their spaces are overrun by genders they don’t want there.Don't underestimate gendercritical, we have our share of weirdos, but this sub is something else entirely, particularly when it comes to cannibalism. | /r/MGTOW | 02/10/19 05:20 PM |
| 1 | JusticeMost of the software that built the internet is available for free and has been since the late 70s, prepaid by tax dollars in the form of governmental, academic, and military research Oh look, another one of these "the government's money is something that just appears out of nowhere". Reminds me of an idiot in my country saying that "embezzling public funds" was a private matter that didn't concern people. Where does tax money comes from, and how does this make sense if it is "free"? | /r/MGTOW | 02/10/19 12:48 PM |
| 11 | When a 5 year old boy can get a much more sever punishment for hugging a female classmate than all these female pedophiles raping under age boys, you know the system is fucked upThen he'll have cunts trying to do him thinking he's a legit sex offender. He'll think he is one himself sadly enough, don't worry about this. | /r/MGTOW | 02/10/19 12:34 PM |
| 6 | When a 5 year old boy can get a much more sever punishment for hugging a female classmate than all these female pedophiles raping under age boys, you know the system is fucked upHappens quite a lot to people with autistic people. I've seen women that were turbosluts getting paranoid after a kiss on the cheek juust to say hello (the norm in my country). What also helps and what may be the most important part imo is that autistic boys are easy victims and are extremely naïve so they just take it on themselves whenever this kind of thing happen (they love fairness and hate to lie and to be deceitful since they're mostly left-brained, so why would other people do this?) unt… | /r/MGTOW | 02/10/19 12:33 PM |
| 3 | How to break a man 101I hear since then she has already found a new boyfriend and I have basically been shunned among our old friend group. Given her reaction AND the fact that they were together for 2 years but never had sex, and while a point can be made about him being insecure about it it's a lot less likely for her since she wasn't a virgin, it's safe to say that this "new bf" isn't exactly "new". This guy was just the side dish for the whole time. She just reacted this way because she was comparing him to said … | /r/MGTOW | 02/10/19 12:15 PM |
| 3 | It’s weird when they complain their spaces are overrun by genders they don’t want there.I've seen retarded sjw twist this kind of mindset into "misogyny". "Look, they're ok as long as it makes women angry , they're just misogynistic assholes". No, idiot, it's just that while one can not agree with the whole lgbtq+ thing, what people hate the MOST is you directly trying to control everyone like some kind of god that can dictate and judge everyone's will, so of course they'll like payback, even it it comes from people they don't like. It's not misogyny, it's just that you somehow man… | /r/MGTOW | 02/10/19 12:04 PM |
| 7 | Had the 'Sexual Harrassment' talk at a new job todayPeople like you are a cancer to society. Let's roll with your pseudo-logic. What is easier and thus more likely? Actually being in a situation where you suffer harassment or pretend it happened just to gain sweet victimhood points, career advancement, a special statut, or an informal mean of control of the workplace? (see: evergreen when this kind of retardation pretty much allowed idiots to run the whole school, nothing new nor surprising) Also, given the logic they're explicitely following, yo… | /r/MGTOW | 02/10/19 11:12 AM |
| 2 | Had the 'Sexual Harrassment' talk at a new job todayHer: 'I get what you're saying, but we're of the mind that most people wouldn't make those types of accusations without good reason, and we need to be fostering a safe and inclusive work environment for everyone..' Me: 'So you don't believe that a person would ever misinterpret another person's innocuous chit chat or friendly banter as an unwanted advance?' Her: 'We don't feel that that is likely, no.' institutionalized feelz>facts. I'dsay that these people are probably idiots that never left th… | /r/MGTOW | 02/10/19 10:47 AM |
| 4 | It’s weird when they complain their spaces are overrun by genders they don’t want there.The worst MGTOW you'll find are usually more tolerant than these clowns. Which isn't surprising at all, all things considered. That's the difference between living your own life not giving a fuck BUT not wanting a political and societal agenda forced on you and wanting to push your own agenda on the whole world. | /r/MGTOW | 02/10/19 10:30 AM |
| 2 | Guy had a vasectomy and now wife is on birth control pills. Damn man, may god help youI love how they use the argument of him "needing to communicate healthily with her about her behaviour" when one guy tells him to check if she'scheating himself, while also saying that "maybe she didn't tell him because they don't communicate this way, every couple is different" and all kind of bullshit like that. Either they're a couple that is pretty serious about their communication and talking things out is fair, but she'd have opened her own mouth about it before, either they aren't and it'… | /r/MGTOW | 02/10/19 03:33 AM |
| 1 | What’s up with Buzzfeed and their internalised misandry?"Muh misandry doesn't exist since it's not systemic while misogyny is, AND if you prove that it exists then it just means that it was caused by patriarchy itself so it's their fault as well!" Everything bad that happens to women is men's fault, and everything that happens to men is also men's fault. Argue with them enough and you'll know their justifications by heart. They really love infantilizing themselves as a side-effect of what they're actually trying to defend. That's pretty funny actuall… | /r/MGTOW | 02/10/19 02:09 AM |
| 1 | I can’t control my hatred towards the SJWs(Help)Sony wasn't that surprising to me, particularly because of the context behind it, but the fact that even mainstream authors like kawahara reki to use the most obvious example available since he said it himself in an interview, or companies based in japan started caring about it surprised me quite a bit more (particularly because he's pretty PC, so what, do you want to turn SAO into a full-blown SJW serie...?). I mean, Japan still isn't at the level of the west when it comes to this but it's comi… | /r/MGTOW | 01/10/19 06:58 PM |
| 1 | What's it like to be single in your late 20s and early 30s?Do you ever feel pressure to settle down by society? No idea, I stopped giving a fuck so much that I'm pretty sure I couldn't even feel "pressure" anymore. Do you make ends meet? Extremely easily. If you're not an idiot that needs the last iphone every year and spend your money in a smart way, it's pretty easy to save money when you don't have a thot constantly bothering you about retarded expenses. Are you able to pursue all of your hobbies and goals? More importantly, it allowed me to gain the… | /r/MGTOW | 01/10/19 05:25 PM |
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