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Economics of 'body count leads to body count' (kills and notches) Just kidding
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 04:07 AM
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It's like how a man could get disgusted by a girl if she's a total whore. But if she's still hot, he won't be any less sexually attracted to her. In fact, it could make him even more frustrated with the situation. Likewise, if an exciting seductive man also beats dogs and once went to jail for drug-induced rape, lots of women would be frustrated that they find him really attractive yet he also did these things. Primal sexuality and moral character are NOT at all in the same category, one is the …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 03:46 AM
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Internet law claims hoflation up by giga9000% with only the gigaest gigachads ever fucking ever
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 08:53 AM
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What was the OG 2013 stuff?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 08:51 AM
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To be fair, it's also hypergamous women using perceived alpha male seed for her own genetic benefit What is valuing someone, to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 08:42 AM
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What's the purpose behind sex in evolutionary terms? Procreation. A man is physically designed to extrude, a woman is physically designed to receive. A man is instinctively motivated to spread his seed, a woman is instinctively motivated to bond with the man she accepts to receive (speaking generally). If another man intrudes where the first man planted his procreation fertilizer, the first man instinctively knows that this garden spot has been tainted by foreign genes, and that the woman's bond…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 04:56 AM
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Based pill
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 04:26 AM
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He interviewed Sneako once so I'd call him at least manosphere-accepting to a degree (cool in my book)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 04:23 AM
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I think PUA actually is better off integrating red pill aspects because of present-day social media hypergamy. It's so cool when 3 people all disagree partially on a niche topic like this
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 04:17 AM
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You're defining yourself by these things that you do, but they don't care that you do those things if you make the interaction not about those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 03:58 AM
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We in PUA do not claim redpill and havent since they split off from us What's interesting is that there's even a split within the PUA niche of red pilled vs. blue pilled guys (PUA generally leans more purple-moderate between both) but you can see debates like that on channels like Game Global. The way red pill applies to PUA is often when guys overemphasize SMV over game, or they might discard a girl who isn't visibly into him immediately, then the blue pilled PUAs are the ones doing super nice …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 02:23 AM
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She does that pretty often it seems
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 01:46 AM
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Aren't older women just as annoying but for different reasons?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 01:45 AM
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Cool? But honestly I think you might be putting yourself in all these boxes before a girl even gets a chance to. If a girl asks what you do, you could keep it more mysterious as long as it warrants, and just be like "I rock hard, push heavy things, and piss off people who love politics." I don't know, you can get creative. The goal can be whatever makes a girl feel things rather than being super specific about articulating yourself (or whatever the assumed significance is of all these roles) to …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 01:33 AM
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Do you think women inherently pigeonhole/typecast men in that way all the time without fail, or could you go the more ambiguous mystery route
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 11:22 PM
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Bad location and emotional avoidance
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 04:30 AM
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LOL That is very niche internet lookstremism
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 04:28 AM
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I think we pretty much agree but just to split hairs I'd differentiate between immediately bendable status (game, style, behavior) versus more longterm built status (social/reputation, institutional/group position etc)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 10:29 PM
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Things like game, style, behavior, social circle can all hack your raw SMV score depending on how many levers you effectively pull
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 06:49 AM
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Okay so personality and looks/physique. Maybe he developed that over the years, and didn't have that as much when he was younger.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 04:07 AM
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Please reread my comment and reassess what you think I said
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 03:59 AM
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It's the factor that determines his (most primal instinctive) attraction to the woman
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 03:49 AM
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Not if he raises his status, dominance, physique, personality as he gets older. These are more factors involved in male attractiveness. Women's attractiveness, in comparison, tends to be more just the single factor of looks, so once her youthful looks decline there's not much she can do to mitigate being less attractive other than style/beautymaxxing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 03:17 AM
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When his dishonest superego and ego override his honest id
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 03:13 AM
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most attracted to 20yr old's Completely true Relationships, in theory, would be boosted in stability by the woman doing what she can in terms of physical fitness and beauty/style to remain as youthful in appearance as possible. Just like men doing what they can to stay attractive for the woman. This could in theory point to relationships in Asia (where women have more youthful-looking features) being more stable for that reason - except they have additional cultural factors that also destabilize…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 02:51 AM
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Reddit still leans majority leftist cope lens AKA blue pill
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 02:23 AM
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Women marry roughly 4-5 years later on average nowadays, not because of Taylor Swift but because of cultural and economic changes that she happens to reflect in her expression. But since you want to entertain her culture queen revolution, what would show her encouraging both more sexual partners and not cheating? I'll admit I don't know her music or lifestyle. (All of this is just for hypotheticals btw, as none of it actually gets to people fundamentally changing in a relevant way outside of cul…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 03:02 AM
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Taylor Swift has no relevance to this discussion, unless her influence has been so vast and profound as to alter the average N count of married women in general
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 02:40 AM
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Not to the point of it being a career or of being an influencer, but I've had some level of success, sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 02:34 AM
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Why would people have fundamentally changed since then, in any relevant way? Whether he's naive or whether you're an independent anomaly, is kind of unconfirmable/neither here nor there
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 01:36 AM
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General Social Survey (GSS) cross-sectional data The analysis used data from the NORC General Social Survey, which relies on self-reported questionnaires. [1, 2%20Americans%20and%20Their%20Sexual%20Partners.pdf), 3] These findings indicate a strong, positive correlation between the number of lifetime sexual partners and the prevalence of infidelity among married women in the [NORC General Social Survey's Topical Report]() data. [1, 2]
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 01:24 AM
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Reminds me of how men have fantasies about slaying a beast, or of murdering a gunman who breaks into his home holding his family at gunpoint ...doesn't mean he'd actually want that situation to happen in real life, or if it did, he'd be so cortisol-spiked that he might even freeze or not know what to do. Don't cortisol-spike women with surprise rape. A BDSM context is controlled kink. Maybe something similar could oddly be said about a video game where you slay beasts and enemy gunmen. What kind…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 12:40 AM
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Compared to married women with only 1 partner (baseline), the odds of a woman cheating on her husband is: - 6 times higher with 2-4 partners - 9.47 times higher with 5-10 partners - 14.05 times higher with 11-20 partners - 16.05 times higher with > 20 partners
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 12:32 AM
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Not approaching because of an anticipation or that you think they will react negatively is stupid. Huh, that sounds like more leaning towards "should go for the approach" haha The issue is. That you won't know unless you approach. Things like body language/facial expressions, can also give some signals I am not going to stop men from approaching women as long as they are fucking normal about it And also respect that a lot of women don't like being approached and that men shouldn't feel entitled …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 09:47 PM
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I agree that environment matters and is definitely a big aspect, but you're leaving out the aspect of individual women. What about the women who would be happy being approached in a supermarket by a guy they find attractive? Then if he never approaches her, they both miss out. Men have power, but also responsibility to use that power wisely. Now if you're thinking, "well it's impossible to read minds," that's exactly what clueless low-EQ guys argue when they fail to empathize with women and read…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 09:16 PM
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Yeah, but it takes a real finely-tuned guy to actually interpret/intuit an individual 'customer' who would enjoy being approached, and to calibrate one's vibes to that interaction. I agree that the more common, scattershot, 'numbers game' method is annoying braindead automaton game. Those numbskulls have no perceptiveness and run on lazy autopilot.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 09:05 PM
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22 but you wouldn't believe me
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 08:56 PM
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Not a hypocrite. Men and women are biologically different.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 08:55 PM
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As a man, I 100% believe men should approach women. The only real obstacle is that men need to develop both EQ and a pair of balls. Not an impossible task by a long shot. If women were the ones approaching men all the time, it would really speed up society's collapse for sure...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 08:53 PM
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I suppose whatever would lessen the overwhelming flux of dudes in women's inboxes, so that they actually have the mental/emotional bandwidth to also choose responsibly.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 02:14 AM
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Everyone uses choice on apps irresponsibly, though I'm not sure if you're referring to something more specific
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 02:03 AM
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I don't disagree with your swipeflation principle, I only disagree with removing men's bare minimum level of choice on the apps
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 01:42 AM
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Or what if instead, they had to either look at the profiles, or left swipe a certain amount for each certain amount of right swipes?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 01:34 AM
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Hypergamy makes both more difficult, but I think it destabilizes relationships even more than it creates an initial barrier to entry. Like sure it's some work to looksmaxx or whatever and then learn some game to get a lay, but once you're in a relationship and have to upkeep that every day? Pshh. Really comes down to how high maintenance the girl is, probably
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 08:48 PM
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So you're saying the average man has high skills at keeping a relationship going, in a way that makes it easy to maintain? Where do I learn these skills? Or you're saying the average man has a hard time in relationships, and an even harder time attracting women in the first place?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 06:31 PM
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You think it's more work in the beginning, than in the thick of the relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 05:23 PM
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I think men should only ever hit gay men acting too forward, and never hit women
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 05:21 PM
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Long term relationships are a lot of work with potentially little payoff especially if/when she just goes hypergamous in this insane dating market, sure But your reason is because you don't want to make the first move? As another introverted guy I'm gonna say you're being lazy and just straight up refusing to learn a basic skill needed as a man, like you actually would rather become gay
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 07:40 AM
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Nobody thinks a woman having sex with them is disgusting Depends on her past body count tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 11:06 PM
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If you make a man wait for sex, you don't really like him. He doesn't have genuine sexual value to you Pick better men, not just guys who are just going to use you for sex The lower your body count, the higher your value (which means you can keep a guy) I can reconcile these seemingly contradictory criteria in a more nuanced fashion 1 is about the level of raw desire, the premise is that a man wants a woman to primally desire him so that he has primal chad value in her perspective. Now, I unders…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 05:47 AM
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They like all of these things when Chad does them This is the difference, a Chad can even get away with jumping right into sexuality and use "sit on my face" as a pickup line. For the other 90% of guys, they have to start at a lower phase of the escalation ladder which means socially/emotionally calibrating with more subtle intention.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 11:48 PM
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There's such a barrier when talking to far-leftists like this because you all think everything is nurture and society, there's such an ignorance about nature including one's own natural responses. You'd at least accept that you'd have a natural reaction to something spontaneously combusting with a loud boom, wouldn't you? That that wouldn't simply be socially conditioned or enforced?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 04:39 PM
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No, it's about the inner primal knowing that comes from the sex
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 06:14 AM
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her heart Which is more available the less partners she's had
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 06:12 AM
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When you’ve slept with a lot of women and experienced everything, her past or what she’s done won’t matter anymore, at least most of the time. I don't think it's technically "your past compared against her past" But rather, how alpha and how sexually skilled you are relative to her past men. Because she is subconsciously comparing you against them. And your deep, ancient evolutionary programming knows it- that's why you care. It's not just "some irrational feeling that we can get past by having …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 05:35 AM
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Thread winner
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 11:00 PM
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If we're starting a market correction phase, maybe other factors involved are also the less censoring of views, the popularity of red pill, AI dating etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 04:39 AM
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I had a gf who was an 8/10 + had sex enough times = sufficient oxytocin bond = love Too bad it was at that very turning point that she'd dump me for the Chad. And that's when the Red pill phase began
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 04:37 AM
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If women were to focus more on men's personalities and character than vibes and dominance-role, men would have a lot more options. Both of these are fantastical "ifs" that aren't natural reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 08:26 PM
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I rejected a girl just the other day. She assumed it was because I found her hideous. I didn't find her hideous, it was for different reasons. I think the least someone can do is be self-aware that they're forming a hypothesis that isn't confirmed truth about the situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 03:18 PM
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Wanting someone conventionally attractive is just basic biology. If you've Buddhist-transcended instinctive urges, then props, but again it doesn't mean instinctive urges don't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 06:07 AM
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That's just bare minimum for anyone with basic average standards. Like the guy who decides he's in love with the first 6/10 who shares his same passion for snowboarding.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 05:24 AM
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Anyone loses if they marry a woman with 10+ bodycount and are also bad at sex
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 05:02 AM
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do you mean non-combative? easy going? patient? calm? Personally, yes this exactly. I don't ascribe to the binary "one must dominate at all times while the other submits at all times." That's some kink, gay, sociopathic shit. That being said, probably over 90% of women desire a dominant man, so for me it's also about playing that role. It usually doesn't involve much more than leading and initiating to take the stress off her, maybe hair pulling in the bedroom if that's what she's into, etc. I n…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 01:22 AM
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Maybe his clothes looked sloppy or wrinkled. Maybe he said something slightly awkward that killed the mood. Maybe she noticed he was a smoker. Maybe she simply didn’t like his tone, his vibe, or the way he carried himself. These are equally "just observations" aren't they Is your position one of pure agnosticism about what attracts women? "We can't know, so might as well not have hypotheses?"
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 01:13 AM
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Okay? I think the real point in the OP is that you're denying the existence of a more objective scale of attractiveness, claiming that it's only ever about how attractive an individual believes another to be. That's a very general kind of debate, like where a fat girl will claim she's a perfect 10 for the right man. Well sure, if she connects well with the right guy it can happen, but would she find someone with as much likelihood as if she were to lose some weight?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 12:56 AM
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You listed three specific aspects- physical, compatibility, and shared desires. What is "much further"? Is it impossible that let's say... social status can be involved? Or unpredictable excitement? Even emotional safety? These are just a few examples of many. If it's clearly complex enough that it "goes much further," then clearly "just connecting" isn't the only aspect, that's the whole point.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 12:44 AM
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Just because people don't make bullet lists of the variables (let's call them attraction switches), doesn't mean attraction switches don't exist. You can call them variables or not, it's only semantic. I would agree that women especially are largely unconscious of everything that turns them on. So you listed physical attraction, compatibility, and shared desires as being existing attraction switches. You sure those are the only three?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 12:32 AM
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Nah, it isn't black or white, not either/or. I hear you, but connection with people is A variable within the sexual marketplace. If you connect well with an individual, it can definitely boost your ranking to that individual, but it also doesn't magically make the other existing variables disappear.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 12:21 AM
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Competent cold approach is the goat
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 08:45 PM
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It sounds a bit like you don't understand the choosing habits of a lot of women, then blame the ones who "choose badly," and are projecting your own immaturity on some level while idealistically believing they "should" choose the one who virtue-signals like yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 02:39 AM
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Do you believe that of all the guys you feel attracted to, that you're equally attracted to all of them - as in each one excites you the same amount? (The casual ones you're saying have negative traits, but that's a turnoff for trust in relationship, whereas I'm talking about raw attraction)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 07:24 PM
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You are blue pilled my guy
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 07:00 PM
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Would you say you're more primally attracted to the ones you choose for casual dating? And if something made you feel like one of those guys could possibly be a good real relationship, would you prioritize him?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 01:36 AM
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Blue pill/former is 'nurture' + gender fluidity and rationalizing unmasculine behavior Red pill/latter is 'nature' + traditional masculinity
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/26 09:53 PM
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BPs be like "why won't the women approach me, gender roles are stupid!! 😠😠😠 They're stupid cowards to be brainwashed into their submissive roles and not want to risk rejection like I fear it" RPs are just "women are women so man up bruh"
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/26 02:40 AM
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If she's not you bby ;o jkjk
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/26 02:30 AM
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This always happens - age gap on its face as an initial turnoff, but not feeling like it matters if it's bypassed in initial stages and only brought up after attraction is built.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 03:17 AM
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Yes Now replace 'men victims of men violence' with 'black men victims of black men violence' or 'gay men victims of gay sexual misconduct' and try not to automatically downvote
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 11:52 PM
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Just talk normal bruh. Like that. Develop a more mainstream relatable side and be using that one. Then the spergy losers who wanna judge you by what they see as your 'dumb exterior' are the dumb ones who can't see you have a hidden billion IQ that you're using invisibly to make awesome decisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 04:17 PM
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Relatability is a 'sort of' prerequisite for long term relationships, yet there are plenty of lasting relationships where they only superficially relate/connect but the 'vibes' stay good enough and masculine/feminine roles are fulfilled. So a dude could still play in some obscure squid-cosplay technical metal band outside of his relationship, yet still retain the other relationship side of himself with his woman. And for short term sex the relatability bar is much lower, there are so many hookup…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 08:32 PM
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Yeah, expectations suck. Larping as a younger age can work especially in the short term. As can moving to different cultures that have different expectations. If some well-done event causes a huge status boost then that can also be a big win.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 07:32 PM
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Whoa look the female cat keeps running into walls unable to see what's in front of her like basic different commenters, don't get too much brain damage
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 07:24 PM
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Right so in a nutshell there are both more genius men and dumb men compared to women, who are more average on average. And you're applying that as a law to everything, with the assumption that if a man is outside of a woman's range it makes him unrelatable therefore undesired. There might be something to question in there
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 06:52 PM
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I actually agree that all identity is mere feedback loop built from thought/action habit. Maybe the formative years are by far the most substantially cementing. Would still think there's wiggle room for teaching young-to-middle-aged dogs new tricks.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 05:43 PM
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Even 'being uninhibited' itself can be done well or not - there's a smooth calibrated way to be outgoing, versus an insane socially/boundary-unaware ADHD reactive vomit-in-their-face way too
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 05:31 PM
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lol what if a guy was physically Chad but autistic and inhibited in a bad environment, then he'd have a positive reinforcement loop to at least fix the inhibition/environment?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 08:02 AM
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There's psychological truth in that, though with a lot of awareness and effort there can be ways to transcend or build identity to varying degrees. If all else fails, I've heard traumatic brain injuries can alter fundamental personality if one were to make that gamble. Like a roll of the dice whether they become Chad or a Veggie Tales character
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 07:53 AM
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Latter two aren't out of control imo
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 07:42 AM
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If you're talking looks that's straight black pill If you're saying behavior/game is genetically determined then that could be a general argument against free will or something
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 07:32 AM
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I would call it disease phobia and spirit rot phobia but call it what you want
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 06:37 AM
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If Chad fucks your girl then your potential future lineage gets annihilated But if you become Chad-ish through vicariously learning from a trusted Chad then you've boosted
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 06:29 AM
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Just straight up change your flair to Woman
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 06:13 AM
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and nobody cares You're talking about only people in that community, not the outside world looking at it thinking it's a degenerate hellhole
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 06:08 AM
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No. Used car salesmen tend to know all about cars, and have plenty of experience driving them. Same when it comes to pimps, those guys know all about which girls do what, and have rough instincts about their histories and mileage.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 05:33 AM
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The real question is how can inferior cute funny/quirky men become more raw visceral attractive ones?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 03:21 AM
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So do I win a troll award if I date a much younger foreign woman and openly talk about it, and stay standing with more public status than haters try to take down?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 02:50 AM
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I tend to agree with all that I just think there are still some women who've never jumped into bed with a guy right away, even if they were attracted. Some women who claim this might be lying, but others actually aren't. So am I not red pilled? The other part is that there are other women who are just so easy/slutty that even if a guy does sleep with them immediately and gain "alpha status," the fact of the girl being that easy actually makes her more prone to cheating/hypergamy, not less.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 02:07 AM
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What happened to the 'strong key opens many locks, weak lock is opened by many keys' analogy for men and women, do RPers not believe in that? I mean I don't disagree with your point about generated attraction, but don't some women get turned on more easily than others depending on their personality/experience/mood/ovulation cycle etc etc?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 01:39 AM
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If a woman jumps into bed on the first date with a guy, does she automatically view him as alpha? If a woman waits 3 dates to sleep with a guy, does she automatically view him as beta? Are different women different levels of slutty or is AWALT to be taken literally in all contexts?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 12:30 AM
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What exactly do you mean by occupying the middle of everything extremely generic, instead of nichemaxing?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 12:27 AM
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It's just a dumb blanket statement that doesn't include any real variables. You can date 5s if you're normal without any significant qualities.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 12:09 AM
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men have issues seeing that AWALT isn't a thing This is the main issue I have with the red pill community, in addition to the trend of unbending belief that "high SMV = auto lay"
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 10:06 PM
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Sexy (all irony intended)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 09:26 PM
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Actual incels are far less in numbers than normal guys, who when young got their first girlfriend only to find out the real reason the last kiss with her tasted like dick. There's a lot of real primal and emotional rage that comes out of that, yet those reasons are nothing like the self-pity of being unwanted and blaming others for it. The pain in finding out an LTR was a ho also goes for both sexes, so it's more universal than just misogyny. The cuck can also hate the bull equally and it gets m…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 06:22 PM
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Actually yeah you're giving me good reasons to devils advocate against what I'd just said, valid perspective about social norm of men being men being a general positive in more ways
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 07:08 AM
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if society just told the truth about women and their behaviors in the first place Would cause massive SMV inflation unstable for society, among a host of other ills Rewarded are those who will to find truths in the less mainstream markets of information (and who learn directly from reality with open eyes)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 06:18 AM
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No one hates sluts more than the men that can’t any. Possibly, but those aren't the only kinds of people/only reasons men avoid them
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 05:08 AM
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Yin and Yang by definition puts the heavier burden on men. Only desperate weaklings and simps accept that. Dude not gonna lie this is a lot of projection. It just sounds like you don't like the idea of having balls to make approaches, and wish women had those balls instead. Kinda gay with all due respect. I'm probably some sort of 'conformist-bro' in your perspective but whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 04:20 AM
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I don't think most women have such a rigid mindset about it
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 07:21 PM
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I refuse to lick the boots of the pussy cartel ... Symmetry or bust. I would never want a woman who gives anything less Alright I am on board with the anti-simp mindset, I'll give you that much I don't care what we're "designed" to be This is where I disagree because symmetry doesn't actually mean men and women being the same. They're very different. Symmetry doesn't mean that women will magically decide to take the approaching leading role and have penises (even if feminists' conscious minds be…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 04:53 PM
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Your friends are just similar to you in that way
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 04:40 PM
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You wouldn't like me because I like to frustrate sociopaths
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 06:15 AM
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Depends on the guy. Why do you think your opinion speaks for all women?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 06:08 AM
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I don't like smiling in pictures
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 06:00 AM
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You can let that steam out but living longterm with that kind of resentment towards people who didn't actively do anything to you, doesn't even seem to make much sense. Even if I myself were to lean a bit sexist I might say that most women are like the "nice guy" (superficially caring but lacking competence), and so guys who act "nice" but are incompetent get associated with women (which does make sense). The good news for men is that there's more room for growth- men generally can get more comp…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 05:27 AM
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feminist advocacy groups helped push the FBI to update its official crime-statistics definition of rape, which had been gendered and excluded many male-victim cases. And there are many other historic cases of feminists standing for mens rights I can't imagine modern feminists wanting to hold rapists accountable if they're gay. Because anything on the far left is that weird when it comes to minorities. Only straight white men can be bad people.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 05:08 AM
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Are you asking why don't women risk feeling rejected?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 04:56 AM
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It's just a normal law of things in general that if you want to go get something, it takes some form of labor. And all things considered... is the "pain of rejection" really that bad, compared to shit like working a job for money? Like really? #perspective
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 04:44 AM
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There's also this pool of internet people who make it appear as though "all bad people = avoidantly attached, all anxiously attached = innocent victims" when the majority of those 'unstable leftover women' are actually anxious ones
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 03:37 AM
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Right and this is a good point of knowledge to establish- that you're saying basically good looks is only effectively an attention-grabber to get one's foot in the door - and that other game such as routines can be just as effective
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 12:54 AM
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Yeah and that monk mode versus notch collection thing is a whole nother big topic. But even just on the topic of "being the alpha fux" that OP is talking about, you'd argue the attraction-spark way is more effective than the blackpill-looksmaxx way.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 12:27 AM
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I require data of my past self's expressions to interpret, to know who I am in the first place. My "authentic" identity is a rehashed and redigested loop of past reflections. I will then act in character as that persona. The types of innermost thoughts and feelings will follow within those parameters. Otherwise I can focus more externally to interpret the other, and then calibrate more to what I think will effectively "work with them" than to my identified self. Compromise would mean somewhere b…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 12:20 AM
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But aren't you saying that whoever makes them FEEL things, is who's desirable? That there really is no *actual criteria* that women make?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 12:00 AM
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Not sure what your pill is or if it matters but this^
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 11:39 PM
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They seem all over the board though, those could be some examples of icks and there could be countless other random ones that aren't even gender-role-related. Like you wore shoes she didn't like, or mentioned a celebrity she didn't like. Hardly just a gen z thing
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 04:26 AM
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Most Western men would rather their woman likes sports, is willing to swing a hammer with him Delusional projection
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 05:10 PM
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Masculine men like dominant women? Shy, meek, soft-spoken women don't like being contextually dominated and pounded doggy-style? Wtf? I think you're really overemphasizing particular archetypes, and focusing on "authority versus feelings"... which is actually a good conversation that I'd be willing to further dig into. First off, your idea of men seems to just make men gay/want other men And personally I think in some ways it would be an ideal reality if attractive feminine women had a low toler…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 02:31 PM
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That sounds like you're describing autistic men who also drink too much beer
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 02:26 PM
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Masculinity is tied to competence, though You think your preferences speak for most men? Even globally?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 02:24 PM
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Yeah, but then it's also like trying to tell masochistic lion-phile zebras not to seek out getting eaten by them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 09:54 PM
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I know in depth and detail the individual personality aspects to this in particular. But there's also a social/cultural conflict between "directness preferring" men, and mostly women in uncomfortable situations who have their indirectness blamed on them. As a man who sympathizes with indirectness, I find the contextual victim blaming to get oppressive. That's just one aspect of it. I would argue that having indirectness at least somewhat as a social norm, cultivates empathy all around too. Do yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 07:35 PM
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Was this a more recent development, like later than 2018?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 07:29 PM
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I can't tell if this is ironically a black pilled take or what
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 02:38 AM
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men getting louder and louder online about body counts and slut-shaming potentially making women more selective about who they sleep with It would make sense if they're selecting out men who they feel might shame them for hooking up with them, but so then is this filtering out process becoming "most men unless clearly far leftist"? In that case, in many cases women would only be hooking up with leftist men who are also attractive and sufficiently masculine, or basically unicorns. I don't think t…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 12:30 AM
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No it's humor
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 08:40 PM
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I guess it's also when people stop conflating strength with blindness
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 07:33 PM
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But what's more enticing, someone saying "I want fuck"/"I want relationship" or high value dangling with a slower buildup? Isn't it jarring to just jump straight to a late stage in the process?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 07:18 PM
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Hypothetically if the Trump administration can now cure autism, then what lol
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 07:17 PM
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So... 2055 version B There's a monopolized market on teaching human skills and grey areas Big Brother holds men accountable for attacking women for their indirectness How would we get there? The inevitable crash of the current system that leaves peoples' humanity unfulfilled
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 07:10 PM
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So how do we preserve our grey zone which makes us human? Is there a market in teaching those necessary skills? Or have you given up and accepted takeover by the system?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 06:58 PM
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I'd think if you look attractive and aren't easy, then only the impatient guys will complain
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 06:43 PM
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Isn't this what a lot of men asked for women to do ? Ie : Clear communication, no mixed signals Yeah it seems to be, curse those autistic mens' demands that yall catered to en masse. I would think that it ruined your ability to enjoy dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 06:41 PM
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I sometimes feel like I'm the only guy around who advocates for grey zones and mind reading, that those are women's natural mode of existence and that it's our responsibility to adapt to them, and if we don't then we shouldn't have success. A guy accuses a girl of leading him on? "Cry about it more." The relationship-vs-fuckzone dynamic on both ends has always been prone to drama in navigating- even if a girl wants a relationship, that can still be perceived yet used as fuckzone, and vice versa.…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 06:34 PM
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I see around 2018 as when Tinder and similar apps were at their height of mainstream+accessibility, and just pre-covid.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 06:23 PM
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\Calibrated** innuendoes, touch, teases etc. are good friends There are certain ways of going about sexualizing interactions, that are pretty much just more creepy than others Calibration means developing an art of feeling out and testing the situation with the girl, doing it early enough, and being very perceptive of both her and where you're currently at with her You also sound like you did just all 'push' and no 'pull' (or it might be the other way around). Look up push/pull
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 04:27 AM
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There are men who assert that anyone who challenges them must be soft, even if they're not. So what those men say about other men isn't necessarily reality. If man A can't make women see man B as a loser, then man A doesn't have that power.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 04:14 AM
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Yes you develop the power and seduction of theee devilll bwahaha who modern women follow No, really, have you never heard of the stereotype of girls being loyal to A whoever fucks her really well and B whoever stole her heart the earliest?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 02:40 AM
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You might at least be able to on some level possess the young woman by fucking her well enough
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 12:03 AM
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Okay but why is it necessary to value male approval?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 12:01 AM
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Okay but confidence/shyness also entails how he's gonna act in interaction with someone from the app. Being stuck on apps also has its limits, compared to if he could also do cold approach or social circle. I have seen guys with absolute Chad looks get a lot just from apps alone, but these also weren't shy guys and they could be confident enough to also get girls in person.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 02:17 PM
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How would he do that by being shy?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 01:57 PM
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Maybe on much rarer occasions, but it's a matter of his odds/frequency exploding if he were to also have confidence
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 01:12 PM
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Okay
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 06:22 AM
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Barron Trump is pretty tall. But are the rumors that he's autistic true? Only time will tell
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 05:59 AM
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No see it's like this If an unattractive guy simply makes eye contact, he starts at 3/10 but may still have a slight chance to make her feel at ease and turn things around...if he has attractive game. Asking a cliche dumb question won't help his chances. If an unattractive guy is also socially unattractive and oblivious, and persistent in a low-value clueless manner... that's when his 3/10 drops into the negative digits and deserves crucifixion
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 05:39 AM
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It's only one of several traits needed. An attractive man without confidence won't get it either.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 05:30 AM
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Pearl also openly admitted that she was only a 5 in looks, which you say is half of what matters So yeah, clearly it's not about "pick me" if there's no dating/sexual reward for what she does. Why are these women called pick-me's?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 05:20 AM
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This is good at showing how and why she thinks that way though, we have to navigate this game. OP is a rare articulate honest woman with some understanding of pill-adjacent concepts, like she's translating womanese for free
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 04:46 AM
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My fault at not fully internalizing that perspective the first time you said it. Now I get it. While I appreciate you shining light on this, do you really think people like famous rappers aren't telling their friends who they just banged? I just think this issue is more about being able to trust the person, rather than status working in that way, but I think you also do have a point about it factoring in to some degree
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 04:44 AM
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Okay, got it. So then, if high status is the trait of being trusted by you that he won't "kiss and tell," then what's that got to do with whether a guy is a celebrity or not? Why couldn't someone with the same social tier as you, have that trait?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 04:35 AM
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I don't know any man who'd feel harassed by a woman throwing her panties up onto his stage Also I wonder if it's relative like different levels of fame, or if it's more black and white, like if 'semi-famous' or 'well-known-in-niche' wouldn't count at all
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 04:27 AM
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Good take overall, but If I was going to engage in noncommittal sex, it would 1000% be with someone much higher status than me, it's literally the only way to ensure your privacy Couldn't the higher status man tell his friend group what your asshole looks like, and then you'd be known that way to people with a higher social influence more damaging to you? Do you see your privacy as just about the friend group being outside of your circle? Or is high status inherently meaning the man not doing th…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 04:12 AM
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Cool idea actually
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 04:34 AM
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For a topic about fishing, this is ironically out of touch with the larger ocean (dating pool)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 04:34 AM
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How does someone pay for a car with self-esteem?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 03:57 AM
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I never thought "cute" was sexualized, if a woman calls a man that
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 04:17 AM
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So basically if I wasn't in the mood It would be tempting if she was both attractive and my type, but then there'd be the problem of women being even more hoeish than already, so if she was just a massive cum dumpster then probably not
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 02:47 AM
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No because it wouldn't equalize anything, instead it would undermine the game, make women even easier and double their Ncount, might even make men more aggressive if taking compliments at face value without properly escalating
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 02:06 AM
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It's also different when she fucked a Chad you can't compete with whose sperm feels like penetrating the condom into corrupting her family line's genetic soul for 5 generations, and automatically gets her obsessed versus when she fucked Billy Bibbit who stutters and slouches, who she pity-fucked
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 01:20 AM
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I thought women already did that but just not as openly
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 12:18 AM
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I think the best is to visibly be 'hookup material' archetype, who also has husband relationship skills
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 02:38 AM
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Even during ovulation? Straight men generally never have any time of the year when gay sex seems unironically enjoyable
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 08:11 PM
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Would you rather have 1,000 gift boxes but some of them contain explosives which might kill you Or 5 gift boxes that are all pretty safe
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 06:38 PM
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It's not that different from if a woman was a 5/10 and wanted you, and you tolerated being around her, maybe you'd sleep with her if you really got to know her and she proved herself really cool and you got so used to her that there was real chemistry, otherwise low chance of you just banging her immediately
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 06:34 PM
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The paradox there is that the guarded/slow to trust are often more repressed and may actually explode with lust once comfortable and desiring, which might not necessarily take a long time (still mostly referencing allo people)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 04:29 PM
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I was just talking about general timeframe purposes for connecting, mostly with allo women Maybe if it's someone demi, multiply that timeframe length by 5? lol Or it's probably more about the quality/depth of the connection rather than the quantity/length, for demisexuals
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 04:24 PM
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Right, and that 'timeframe of connection' is a disputed topic that basically boils down to "too little gets no chance" vs. "too much = friend-zone" where the more blue pilled the guy leans the longer he connects, the more red pilled the less he connects. Reasonable nuance as in the youtube channel Game Global seems to suggest that "the best game is calibrated game" that takes the individual into account
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 03:51 PM
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Right, the desire is there, but then the secondary barrier to consciously choose involves a complex wall made up of things like comfort, social risk, emotional risk (many women will easily bond after sex, and can feel easily heartbroken) <- that's probably the biggest factor relating to the statement about bonding, because it's like a safeguard against the potential emotional weight of sex. What would be great data would be to poll women asking how many of them would be perfectly okay being pump…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 03:43 PM
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It's a blue pilled statement Compared to men, though, women tend to be leaning more demisexual if that is the definition But another thing is that people confuse "emotional comfort" with "emotional bond", the former is definitely a part of the picture for women
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 03:08 PM
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Basically 'ISTJ' if you're familiar with personality typings
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 10:04 PM
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Not disagreeing, but adding to this that I actually think the most rigid-rules-and-hierarchy-minded men are beta male by definition: the fearful OCDish "loyalist" providers who "accept their duty" and may end up cucked badly. These are hardly ever red-pilled men, yet are often undeniably toxic people.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 09:52 PM
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You conflate chameleoning with insecurity. Sometimes "unashamed authenticity" is just social unintelligence or lack of calibration.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 07:44 PM
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I think the real intense feeling of "rude awakening to reality hidden by the matrix" synonymous with "taking the red pill" involves the madonna-whore complex, more than anything. "Good women who aren't easy" becomes seen as a fictitious "unicorn made up by blue-pill mainstream" replaced by "All women are sluts omg I see the true hell we live in" Sometimes the "red pilling event" is as simple as "that one girl who looked normal just fucked some guy on the first date therefore I have to question e…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 06:04 PM
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Take the real Purple Pill - the PUA pill
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 05:53 PM
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Most honest ISTJ in existence
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 03:32 PM
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Not fully, only to a degree
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 05:14 AM
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We do, that's why we've oppressed LGBT the most of all minorities I just think that if you want male feminist allies, some empathy should go both ways, if you know what I mean
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 01:16 AM
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Well, sexually inappropriate behavior is far more normalized amongst gay men. As bad as a lot of straight mens' behavior is toward women, mainstream social norms at least dissuade it. And that's just the tip of the iceberg
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 01:11 AM
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So you only care about women
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 01:01 AM
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You assume I'm squeamish about seeing this image but I'm an internet veteran, nobody is asking my actual reasons
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 12:49 AM
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Game is a more umbrella term than the specific tactics you mentioned. Being high status and looking attractive will be positive factors for a man getting hookups, but so will attractive behaviors. If a man wanted to max everything out, he'd have both. If a man is neither high status nor attractive looking, you think he should just give up on women?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 12:38 AM
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Game for men is like makeup for women. If a man fucked a girl who looked hot, but then in the morning she didn't have makeup and it turned out she was actually ugly, he'd be regretful. If a woman got in a relationship with a man who was completely masking himself with game and in the end she actually didn't like his personality, she'd be regretful. Game and makeup both add attractiveness, but it has to be appropriately used like icing on a cake, not as the entire cake
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 12:15 AM
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You can give a disagreement without explanation, but it has no substance Assuming you find straight male sexuality disgusting, and gay male sexuality less so, why?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 12:09 AM
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In certain psychological fields yeah, masculine is sadistic and feminine is masochistic But when it actually plays out that way, it tends to be extremes Normal people tend not to tie such sadism to sexuality, that's why BDSM is considered 'alt' The "choke me daddy" women are more common than men who genuinely seek to tie up and spank their partners unprovoked, so usually when men do that it's because their partners want them to. Regular men's sadistic natures tend to be reserved for male rivals.…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 12:02 AM
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The thing that no one's allowed to say is, gay male sexuality is the most disgusting of all
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 11:58 PM
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btw what is the Patrice O'Neal School? Isn't he a comedian? I've dabbled in old school PUA and things like that, not sure that's the same kind of thing
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 05:03 PM
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The real red pill for personality typology though, is Socionics
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 04:49 PM
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Based high-Fe NTP gang
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 04:44 PM
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A simple google search doesn't do it, it seems to only mention average rate of something like autistic babies born, and then "sixfold increase" after age 40 which leaves out the piece of logic you mentioned. No mention of starting risk number, at least on a simple google search.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 04:32 PM
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The PUA Jon Sinn who worked for Mystery, said 4 pillars of male attractiveness are to be Fun, Interesting, Masculine, Confident
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 05:31 AM
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So what are the real numbers?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 04:34 AM
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No but I'd check it out
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 04:15 AM
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There's a very particular kind of super nerd that describes you, but we need a more particular word for it
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 03:31 AM
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Haha I have 4 but am impossible to feel truly close to, though I seem to use Fe to get people opening up
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 03:28 AM
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I might rank it like this High ability to get along with healthy cognitive compatible Medium ability to get along with healthy cognitive opposite Medium ability to get along with unhealthy cognitive compatible Low ability to get along with unhealthy cognitive opposite
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 02:39 AM
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I consider values to be more superficial than information metabolism. Two people might disagree on an external issue, yet still understand where the other is coming from. Another two people might agree on an external issue, but fundamentally fail to understand the other's cognition, or even be bothered by it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 02:02 AM
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Yes In some ways, cognitive tribes may be more fundamental than political ones
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 01:55 AM
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Sheep are technically different Who wouldn't still enjoy a lovely sheep wearing a dress and baking cookies
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 01:45 AM
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NPCs are ISTJs
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 01:39 AM
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Here Warning I may be the only person besides CS Joseph to validate aspects of both mbti and red pill
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 01:37 AM
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I'm an expert on this - INTP leaning ENTP Men just skew T and women F, though Fe's 'harmony' is considered feminine. Fi is reactive and also feminine. The pure traditional wife material type is ISFJ, Si pleasant comforts with Fe harmony. The archetypical alpha male is an ESTP, Se 'Chad-ness' with Ti logic. Notice how there's Ti and Fe in this hypermasculine type. Harmony in TP types can be used to understand group values and utilize the crowds. Many believe Donald Trump to be an ESTP, though thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 01:33 AM
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IME not understanding analogies is more of a personality thing than a gender thing. Dumbasses come in all flavors. To comprehend analogy one must have sufficient gray area and conceptual thinking, with comparative logic and willingness to cross more than one context
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 01:19 AM
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It depends. If an individual girl normally doesn't bang on the first date with anyone, she might actually have some quality and decency. (Red pillers don't believe those women exist) But if an individual girl is more prone to banging on the first date, and doesn't do so with me, then the logic is she just isn't so attracted to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 08:43 PM
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Men are free to seek out casual sex without resorting to game. This is nonsense. People are free to seek out jobs without learning any skill sets. A baby is free to try to bite into a steak, without having any teeth. Learning skill sets and having teeth? Pff, such sinking low, they should never have to resort to that /s Do you see what I'm getting at
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 07:21 PM
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People still know that Chads are winners and sloots are losers, even if they know it more in secret under the rhetorical feminist lies dominating the mainstream
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 07:15 PM
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Was it nonconsentual trafficking, or was it consentual "pimp" business akin to camgirl websites?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 07:10 PM
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While I do believe that AWALT (all women are like that) is taken to literalistic exaggerated levels in the red pill community due to a kind of tunnel-vision, I can never seem to find reasonable guesses by anyone as to "what's the ratio?" So in this example, what percentage of women are true gold diggers? Then what percentage of women have not-as-extreme yet gold digging tendencies simply due to a hyper-capitalistic society? Versus what percentage of women would actually date/marry a guy who make…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 04:08 PM
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Depends how many other guys, among other factors
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 09:39 PM
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Why would you have sex with someone you're not attracted to, unless you have extremely low standards?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 09:38 PM
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It's more complicated than that. A woman is low value if she opens her legs for just any man. Girls who had sex with me when they were also very indiscriminate in who they'd have sex with, were cheap in that way. If a girl had sex with me either because I was really her type in particular, or because I attracted her better than most guys would, now that's not such a cheap girl necessarily.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 04:44 AM
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Game/social skills/personality, Looks, etc. I'm probably more purple pilled than the average redpiller
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 05:14 AM
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Would you date a woman who is a different race from your own? Hard yes Would you date a woman who is a different religion from your own? Yes Would you date a woman who smokes? Light no Would you date a woman who goes to church every Sunday? Yes Would you date a woman who is asexual? Light yes Would you date a woman who lives 1000 miles away from you? Light yes Would you date a woman who is an alcoholic? No Would you date a woman who does OF? No Would you date a woman who has two kids? Hard no Wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 09:47 PM
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"Shut up dad" says the 18 year old girl
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 09:43 PM
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If you're in your 30s as a man, you should be mature enough not to get easily guilt tripped.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 09:41 PM
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I'm someone who questions things. I gave myself the red pill label due to overall finding myself agreeing with a lot of its principles overall, but ultimately I want to find the truth. The red pill community does happen to be dogmatic and even cult-like in some aspects, and there are red pillers who unironically believe that a high-SMV Chad will automatically bang any woman- as if it's a video game where the higher-power-level overtakes the lower-power-level. Just obviously false. But what would…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 03:49 PM
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Do individuals fit within the context of patterns and trends? You're not gonna win this one just wanting to score points against a red pill, by being more blue-pilled and out-argued by the blue piller
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 03:35 PM
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Depends how fulfilling the mold is, and how much of a 'genuine other side' of you, it is
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 05:44 AM
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But chameleons are some of the most flexible daters. "Who are you" can either be changing based on context, or it can be rigidly stuck in a narrow identity that limits the person
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 05:03 AM
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I agree, it's difficult to find exactly what ratio to emphasize is closest to the real truth
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 04:23 AM
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That guy's status would be too low to generate attraction in the first place. If someone with high status suddenly became a wanted felon, it might actually boost his notoriety in a way that boosts attraction for some girls yet turns off other girls who are more in their superego/social norms.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 04:21 AM
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"Dominance" is the missing link factor between your ❌ and ✅ Containing possible elements of both the narcissistic abuse, as well as being an often part of being liked sexually
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 04:19 AM
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Men when self-aware of their primal instinct, tend to rank their preferences of what to be like this 1 Awesome- Being a chad with successful LTR (they exist, Steele isn't all of them) 2 Good- Being a chad with dysfunctional relationships (like Steele) 3 Okay- Being totally single and peaceful 4 Bummer- Being a cuck with successful LTR 5 Hell- Being a cuck with dysfunctional relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 06:14 AM
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Personally I don't force anything, I just wouldn't choose someone like a sex worker. I don't have a problem with her doing her own business. I just think there should be some social standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 03:48 AM
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You're describing a completely imaginary hypothetical. It's like saying "if wolves were turtles, they'd be deer-eating turtles." You could write a funny story with that, not describe reality with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 03:43 AM
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The reality is that men aren't women, men are men with the male instinct to procreate with non-hoes. That's the main drive, not envy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 02:51 AM
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Yes- LTR (long-term relationship) value male traits, versus alpha male traits. This is extremely important to understand in and out. Men in touch with their primal instinct should strive to be sexually attractive to women, for two reasons: -He deep down won't want to be her 'cute non-aggressive' emotional connection LTR after she's gotten men of higher sexual value than himself, and denying this only suppresses primal self awareness. -A sexually attractive man who has sex with a woman, can turn …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 11:02 PM
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I actually agree that there's subjectivity in it. I don't think all contexts of violation get respected equally. If I was greatly disturbed, but not traumatized, by a gay man acting overly forward and domineering towards me, you might consider me to be homophobic. If a man was greatly disturbed, but not traumatized, by a random woman at the bar slapping his butt and winking at him, you might assume him to have been traumatized in objective violation, despite not asking him how he subjectively fe…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 10:53 PM
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Also, I've seen a lot of hypocrisy in how women do absolutely nothing to deter gay men from leaping to domineer at guys three times younger than themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 10:45 PM
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lol not really, it's more like men of all ages universally find roughly 18-32 range women the most attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 10:41 PM
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If you're 24, would you have more in common with an 18 year old who grew up in your town, went to your school, has the same music taste and social views... or with a 24 year old from a Mormon village in Zimbabwe?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 10:39 PM
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Civilization in general, is more important than my own personal bonding life. Sex and romance can't be completely separated and compartmentalized, instinct forbids it. We're primed for exclusivity, even if other parts of the mating drive go in different directions.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 09:07 PM
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Name any possible problem
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 07:50 AM
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Never. I believe being gay is a certain kind of hell on earth, for natural reasons that would exist without social opposition to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 07:34 AM
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I don't love anybody
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 07:23 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 06:54 AM
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More awareness of fear of violent behavior (and the linked theory that men expressing their feelings lowers violent/toxic behavior), than they're aware of their own turnoff of men expressing their feelings. It is just a theory after all. And there's some irony in the way that certain very emotionally expressive men, do so in pretty toxic ways. Will Smith comes to mind
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 06:52 AM
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I would rather women be less easy to have sex with, than have myself a romantic relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 06:23 AM
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Men don't want to be a woman's emotional connection after she's had a bunch of fuckboys. It's not egoistic insecurity, as much as it is a deep primal awareness that women can't fully compartmentalize alpha sexual experiences as separate and undamaging to all connections with another man. You're in denial.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 05:45 AM
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Rare thing I'd agree with you on
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 05:40 AM
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I'm fairly objective about it Each count on a girl subtracts about 0.3 from her score out of 10 which started with looks Of course it's a total based double-standard regarding my notch count, since I'm a guy
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 05:38 AM
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Seeing different pills' responses
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 05:21 AM
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So my friend who said something insensitive about women, who then had a woman get angry and attempt to penetrate his butt with a beef snack "to show him how it feels", should she be liable for assault?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 04:46 PM
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I totally believe that a 17 year old guy can consent to sex with a woman. Sure it's possible that there was psychological manipulation involved, but that's possible at any age. I've heard of situations where a teenage boy was the one approaching and seducing the older woman. I even heard of one insane case, where a teenage boy raped his older babysitter...and SHE was the one arrested for statutory rape. How's that for feminism? It's also VERY common, that men find it even a gift to be "assaulted…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 04:24 PM
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Not normal, but yes in good faith according to definition by dictionary and the thread bot
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 08:53 AM
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This I agree with shines some light on hypocrisy - though, I also believe that most men wouldn't genuinely care to attack the woman back in any way. It depends what you mean by defend himself. If it were a gay man attacking a man in broad daylight, and he defended or counterattacked, 100% agree it's injustice for the mob of dozen to attack/shame/arrest the initial victim.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 08:37 AM
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Well I've been fair, open and honest, isn't that the definition
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 08:30 AM
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Average hater comments that do nothing to give a good opposing view. Yours brought me close to changing my view, and I respect your humanity and experience even though I still think the OP has facts
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 08:24 AM
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Why not relativizing rape in good faith
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 08:20 AM
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Ew that's disgusting. You're the same type of person who would tell a young boy that he's lucky after raped by his teacher. Rape is rape. No. I would ask him if he was hurt, and how he felt about it, without making any assumptions. And I bet you're the same demographic who is scared of trans women going into the women's room to creep on women. They're both women, and if either one of them decides to rape a man it's just as much rape. You should talk to women at birth about this, most of them don…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 07:29 AM
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This kind of honesty is much more respectable, bravo
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 07:06 AM
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Why wouldn't you agree that it's an important conversation to have? Are you not brave enough to show the topic in public, where a popular view (which is harmful in your opinion) actually gets an honest voice in the open instead of remaining silently popular? I agree that non-consensual experiences are often traumatizing on some level, no matter who they are. Would you agree that there are varying degrees of trauma?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 07:01 AM
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What if she's competent at a masculine skill?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 06:55 AM
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I'll give benefit of doubt to the credibility of this. Would you say the amount of men effectively traumatized by women, was both a comparable frequency as well as severity to the alternative?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 06:42 AM
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Could it be a Freudian slip on their part xD
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 06:10 AM
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The fact you wanted nothing to do with her seems to imply you didn't find her attractive? I think another part of this topic is the fact that men find a higher portion of women attractive enough to have sex with, while women find a lower portion of men attractive enough to have sex with.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 06:08 AM
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It's intentionally controversial for the purpose of provoking a conversation about these facts
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 06:05 AM
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I believe this on some level, but any time I have a relationship being unexpressive of emotions, the girl never feels emotionally satisfied either
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 05:36 AM
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I think criminals and abusive men are just on the more extreme end of the "bad boy" spectrum, truth is that the most feminine and attractive women are attracted to male dominance, which just so happens to often co-occur with being a bad boy on some level... so if a woman is feminine and attractive then of course men want to date her
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 05:30 AM
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He probably chose you intentionally, in a way that he did not choose "bad girls" so there's most likely a difference. But again, I don't know him.
/r/RedPillWomen21/05/25 01:44 AM
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I don't know the guy, but from what you're saying, the only red flag sounds like his anger issues. Not necessarily what you've written in the OP. The "women can't think for themselves" thing isn't necessarily literal, the context of what you're talking about is how it's very common for women in friend groups to be a sort of hive where they dictate/influence each others' decision making. These 'red pill' media people like Tate and Rogan don't really preach literal misogyny, I only once heard Tate…
/r/RedPillWomen21/05/25 01:27 AM
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