nytnaltx Archive

Upvotes	Title	Category	Author	Subreddit	Date (UTC)
20	Redpill ideology is just legitimizing manipulation	CMV	nytnaltx	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/10/23 09:12 PM
2	What all women want	Discussion	nytnaltx	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/01/24 06:56 AM

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1	The Tea app must be deleted But see that’s the thing. The really bad guys getting flamed on these pages aren’t just getting dragged by one girl telling her side of the story. Real bad eggs who blow up on these sites have a whole bunch of girls they’ve mistreated in some way. If you’re getting all sorts of people independently giving the same account, it’s credible. And honestly, so what if people talk. If you never do anything bad or shady to anyone or date lowlife women, your chances of getting falsely accused are nil. I’…	/r/MensRights	24/07/25 09:51 AM
-2	The Tea app must be deleted Sure, anytime there is an opportunity to “review” something such as on Google, Amazon, yelp, what have you, there may be a few inaccurate reviews from disgruntled people, but it becomes clear when something is an outlier. Trends, such as when all 10 or 20 reviews of a given place say that it’s trash, well clearly that holds weight. That’s why people read reviews. Sure some people are lying for various reasons, however, the majority are not. They are simply giving feedback, which if negative, is …	/r/MensRights	23/07/25 01:01 PM
4	Vast Majority of Women are Landing Men Who Were In Romantic Exile, and They Know It This is probably the best comment I’ve ever seen on this sub. Thank you for such a well worded breakdown.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/01/25 04:32 AM
2	Men of all ages prefer women between 18-30 simply because it is their physical prime, absolutely nothing to do with manipulation or power dynamics That’s just the thing. I wasn’t “hysterical” and if a man stated his mind, you wouldn’t say he was hysterical. It’s a way of downplaying what women say. Similar to when a woman says something and then a man says “she must be on her period.”	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/01/25 08:16 PM
2	Men of all ages prefer women between 18-30 simply because it is their physical prime, absolutely nothing to do with manipulation or power dynamics Clearly you don’t have much experience with what hysteria means. Being a woman + stating my mind does not mean I’m hysterical, and you saying that just reveals that you have sexist thinking.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/01/25 07:54 PM
2	Men of all ages prefer women between 18-30 simply because it is their physical prime, absolutely nothing to do with manipulation or power dynamics My brother in Christ, I have never said anything about porn being okay. I disapprove of all pornography. Why do you keep acting as though I said anything positive about porn?	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/01/25 07:37 PM
2	Men of all ages prefer women between 18-30 simply because it is their physical prime, absolutely nothing to do with manipulation or power dynamics You are not old. My gosh what is wrong with people. 30 is like the 1/3 mark if you live a long life… and only 1/7 of the way through the adult years. 50 is “old.” At your age the youngest person you could date and it not be creepy would be about 22-23. That said, people such as ITT who fetishize youth and act like women have an expiration date after 25 are bizarre. If your number one agenda is to date the youngest person you can possibly find you aren’t normal, sorry. Also, like, from a female p…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/01/25 05:00 PM
2	Men of all ages prefer women between 18-30 simply because it is their physical prime, absolutely nothing to do with manipulation or power dynamics No it’s not socially acceptable to be an online prostitute, even if there is a thin veneer of political correctness that prevents some people from calling it out. It is by no means widely accepted. Anyone who does that is going to be the butt of a lot of ridicule and won’t be taken seriously if their “career” is found out. There is no 18 year-old alive who actually wants to sleep with a 50-year-old. The few exceptions are a result of trauma/messed up childhood. I really don’t know what your poin…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/01/25 10:51 AM
1	Men of all ages prefer women between 18-30 simply because it is their physical prime, absolutely nothing to do with manipulation or power dynamics Please quote the part of my comment that you specifically find false. I think your comments are sloppy, intellectually lazy, and low effort. You wouldn’t know precise language if it smacked you in the face.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/01/25 04:30 PM
1	Men of all ages prefer women between 18-30 simply because it is their physical prime, absolutely nothing to do with manipulation or power dynamics Haha you really are a funny one. To recap our discussion: My position has been - acting on one’s attraction to a much younger woman by actually pursuing a much younger woman as a romantic/sexual partner is not normal. And I’ve already defined what I mean by normal - very few people are doing it. I’m not talking about attraction without action. I’m not talking about what pornography you look at or who you appreciate walking down the sidewalk. I have not made objective statements about large age g…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/01/25 03:58 PM
1	Men of all ages prefer women between 18-30 simply because it is their physical prime, absolutely nothing to do with manipulation or power dynamics Here is a definition of normal for you derived from the dictionary: “1.conforming to a standard; usual, typical, or expected.” Or if you prefer: “1. the usual, average, or typical state or condition.“ Whether or not something is morally wrong is a separate discussion, although in general, people may be less likely to do things that are morally wrong if for no other reason than to avoid social judgment. And no, I would not say that being transgender is normal. It’s unusual and atypical.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/01/25 03:26 AM
1	Men of all ages prefer women between 18-30 simply because it is their physical prime, absolutely nothing to do with manipulation or power dynamics Just for your information (and because I was curious), I looked up some exact stats. These are taken from U.S. Census data. (https://relationshipsadvice.co/age-gap-relationship-statistics/) In heterosexual married couples in the U.S., 85.1% of the time the male is older than the female. So in heterosexual marriages, 81.2% of the time the man is 5 years older or less (sometimes younger than the woman). 92.4% of the time he is 9 years older or less. 97.4% of the time he is 14 years older or less. …	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/01/25 08:25 PM
2	Men of all ages prefer women between 18-30 simply because it is their physical prime, absolutely nothing to do with manipulation or power dynamics Look sir, I deal with psychotic people on a regular basis. Literally spent most of my day at work in the ER doing just that. Saying it’s normal doesn’t make it true. It’s remains solidly abnormal to see a man with a woman 25, even over 10 years, his junior. I’m sure you could play around with statistics and crunch some numbers to see how normal a 25 year relationship age gap is. Normal (as in the large part of the Bell curve) is anywhere from 0-6 years. Not a clown, just in touch with reality. F…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/01/25 02:01 AM
2	Men of all ages prefer women between 18-30 simply because it is their physical prime, absolutely nothing to do with manipulation or power dynamics Nope, I’m not talking about finding someone attractive. I’m a straight woman and I find women attractive. That doesn’t mean I’m looking for a relationship with them. I am talking about attraction in the sense of who you target when seeking a relationship. If you are a man who attempts to engage with/sleep with/start relationships with women the age of your daughters, then that is abnormal.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/12/24 08:39 PM
1	Q4M: for those males struggling with dating, would you marry Lily Phillips? Look, if she is unattractive, then 95% of women are hideous. I’m a healthy weight and moderately okay looking but she has a gorgeous face and figure.. that’s just a fact	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/12/24 01:23 AM
5	Men of all ages prefer women between 18-30 simply because it is their physical prime, absolutely nothing to do with manipulation or power dynamics You are simply insane. Also I love how you brought up the term strawman earlier, only for this last comment of yours to be nothing but a string of straw men. You know nothing about me, nothing about the men I’ve dated (while claiming you know more about them than I do), and nothing about a great variety of things. You also managed to call me both a puritan and a feminist… pick a lane my dude. Just going for whatever diametrically opposed insult fits the moment I guess. But of course, you make up…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/12/24 11:17 PM
3	Q4M: for those males struggling with dating, would you marry Lily Phillips? I’ve seen the news clips and while LP is clearly troubled, she is very physically attractive. Anyone who says otherwise is not being objective.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/12/24 09:49 PM
7	Men of all ages prefer women between 18-30 simply because it is their physical prime, absolutely nothing to do with manipulation or power dynamics I didn’t say there is zero association, I just said it’s not representative. For example, there’s probably tons of 50 year-old men who look at 20 year-old women in porn but would never actually choose to have a relationship with a young woman. It’s simply not socially acceptable, and for those reasons alone, most people wouldn’t do it. They wouldn’t sleep with their step siblings or relatives either, but I hear that’s a pretty common pornography topic. What, pray tell, makes you think you are an…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/12/24 09:04 PM
8	Men of all ages prefer women between 18-30 simply because it is their physical prime, absolutely nothing to do with manipulation or power dynamics The porn that men look at does not equate to the women they seek out to be in relationships. Not that I would ever be with a man who used porn with any regularity.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/12/24 08:26 PM
6	Men of all ages prefer women between 18-30 simply because it is their physical prime, absolutely nothing to do with manipulation or power dynamics Exactly. So I did understand your mangled sentence fragment, and that’s to my credit, not to your ability to communicate.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/12/24 08:23 PM
8	Men of all ages prefer women between 18-30 simply because it is their physical prime, absolutely nothing to do with manipulation or power dynamics Your first sentence of your reply is not a coherent thought, although I think what you are attempting to say is "all men of all ages find the same women attractive and nothing about the women they pursue or want to pursue changes as they age." Which is false (only a certain segment of men operate that way, and plenty of people - both men and women - do not equate visual, aesthetic idealism/youth with who is the ideal or desirable partner for them). For example, yes, I looked "better" at 25 than …	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/12/24 07:21 PM
12	Men of all ages prefer women between 18-30 simply because it is their physical prime, absolutely nothing to do with manipulation or power dynamics If you look at women the age of your children as appropriate sexual partners, then maybe you are the one with a few screws loose	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/12/24 03:33 PM
3	Do men prefer no makeup/surgery, and should women tell when they've had surgery? If you find most women unattractive, you probably are either not straight or have had your brain warped by looking at images of people who are not real/unrealistic body standards.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/12/24 03:24 PM
1	Redpillers are extremely childish Hey, I’ve written quite a bit on two other replies and won’t reinvent the wheel here. I know most won’t take me seriously, but I absolutely know my stuff (degree in microbiology) and will gladly debate an evolutionist any day. Evolution does NOT stand up to scrutiny, particularly in light of our current knowledge about science. The only reason it is still promoted is that the scientific community refuses to allow discourse on the only other tenable theory for life’s existence, which is intellige…	/r/ExRedPill	08/08/24 12:32 AM
-2	Redpillers are extremely childish Nope my friend. I have a degree in microbiology and know exactly what I’m talking about. There are plenty of intellectually honest scientists who agree with me. It is not popular opinion which makes a theory correct, but facts. In short, species absolutely adapt, but within limits. Evolution does not acknowledge these limits. Why? Because the limits (possible alleles available within a genome) had not been discovered at the time of Darwin’s theory. Darwin thought -incorrectly- that genetic varia…	/r/ExRedPill	08/08/24 12:20 AM
–	Redpillers are extremely childish Haha. I’d be happy to discuss with you. I have a degree in microbiology, which is why I’m qualified to actually discuss this topic. You want to believe pipe dreams conceived in the 1830s before the discovery of DNA, be my guest. What we know now about science makes Darwin’s theory untenable. When we didn’t know about the boundaries of genomes, of course it seems possible for one species to seamlessly merge into another. That’s now known not to be possible. The mechanisms that allow adaptation (w…	/r/ExRedPill	08/08/24 12:09 AM
-3	Redpillers are extremely childish The theory of evolution is largely false. Organisms adapt within the boundaries of their genome and that is it. One species does not become another, nor is there any evidence for or logical support for that idea. Evopsych is largely complete BS. It doesn’t surprise me though that Redpillers love it so much. Anyone CAN operate like an animal, and redpillers are people who largely operate in just this fashion. Of course it suits them to adopt a worldview where there is no God or moral standard. If…	/r/ExRedPill	07/08/24 09:54 PM
1	Why do *some men, try to convince virginal & low n count women to have sex without marriage/commitment? I didn’t ask you a question. There is not a single question mark in my original comment to you. I disagree with you and find your perspective disgusting. That’s not a question, it’s a statement. My disagreement is in your confidence that you will be successful in your attempts to override women’s moral standards. Try whatever you like, but you will be unsuccessful frequently. That is and has been my point. You continue to misunderstand it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/08/24 11:45 PM
1	Why do *some men, try to convince virginal & low n count women to have sex without marriage/commitment? Convince myself of what? I already know that I live by my morals and don’t sacrifice them for anyone. It’s not a theory, it’s the way i actually live. I don’t care whether you believe me. You sound gross and are clearly very confident in your ability to bend people’s will.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/08/24 09:24 PM
1	Why do *some men, try to convince virginal & low n count women to have sex without marriage/commitment? It’s a bit difficult to have these discussions in a comment/paragraph format. I agree from the outset, like you clarified, that malicious interactions aren’t transactional. But maybe the better way to phrase it, is that I believe people can do things selflessly, I.e., jumping in front of a moving train to save someone having a seizure who fell on the tracks. That would be an extreme example, but even just baking food and taking it to someone after a death in the family would be a kind act that i…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/08/24 03:34 AM
1	Why do *some men, try to convince virginal & low n count women to have sex without marriage/commitment? It might be obvious by the response length but i do enjoy discussing these kind of things too. I guess to clarify “everything being transactional” I was referring to all interactions between people (not literally every thing/object). To rephrase, if every interaction between two people is transactional, then it would never be necessary to use the word transactional. Transactional is used to describe interactions in which the person is treated with the dignity of an object rather than the dignity…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/08/24 04:56 AM
1	Why do *some men, try to convince virginal & low n count women to have sex without marriage/commitment? Exactly. That diverges to another topic probably too complex for this thread, which is that as I believe human bodies are inhabited by spirits, neurotransmitters are not the primary cause of our thoughts, but simply the physical modality by which the spiritual soul of a person, implanted in the body by God, becomes able to think, exist, and effect itself in the physical world. Some people see the physical world as distinct from spiritual ideas; I hold that they actually coexist and interact with…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/08/24 03:47 AM
1	Why do *some men, try to convince virginal & low n count women to have sex without marriage/commitment? I disagree that all relationships are transactional. While people have intrinsic motivations for their behaviors, the point you desire to make does not follow from that fact. Transactional relationships are (generally) those in which the identity of the participants is secondary to what they are providing to the other person. I.e., anyone who is equally rich, or hot, or well connected, could be substituted for the current partner and that wouldn’t be upsetting. Normal relationships are predicate…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/08/24 07:01 PM
1	Why do *some men, try to convince virginal & low n count women to have sex without marriage/commitment? Right. You are confusing motivation itself with subtypes of motivation. I.e., what is the motivation. That is what distinguishes good behavior from selfish behavior.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/08/24 06:18 PM
1	Why do *some men, try to convince virginal & low n count women to have sex without marriage/commitment? You’re obfuscating. You are falsely suggesting that all motivations are selfish. That’s not true. Every behavior does in fact arise from a motivation, but not all motivations are selfish. If someone does a giant favor for you, and then in return you are inspired to do something good for them, your behavior is not motivated by selfish motivations. It is motivated by a sense of justice, or equity, which is inherent in human beings. We have a sense of fair play. People like yourself (this is very c…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/08/24 05:44 PM
1	Why do *some men, try to convince virginal & low n count women to have sex without marriage/commitment? It’s not that the reality of heaven and hell isn’t an incentive to do the right thing, it’s just that gratitude is the primary motivator. If you can’t relate to wanting to do the right thing out of gratitude or just enjoying helping people, I don’t think I can really explain it to you. Some people are just broken, lacking the altruism that is the backbone of what it means to make the world a better place. If you don’t get it, you don’t get it. But your failure to understand does not impact what …	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/08/24 04:16 PM
1	Why do *some men, try to convince virginal & low n count women to have sex without marriage/commitment? Nope, that’s just you projecting that you would only love people if you had to to avoid hell. The actual motivation for Christian love is gratitude, gratitude for the unconditional saving love of God that can never be fully repaid. God did not love us to avoid going to hell. He had literally no motivation other than concern for our well being. His love for us was undeniably unmerited, just pure compassion. The gratitude that arises when one receives a gift they do not deserve.. that is the impet…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/08/24 01:53 PM
1	Why do *some men, try to convince virginal & low n count women to have sex without marriage/commitment? God loves people unconditionally. The best kind of love imitates God’s, in which we show love to everyone, regardless of their ability to give us anything back. (Not that I expect you to believe in God, I would be shocked if you do.) It’s interesting how many ways you have found to project things I never said and make claims about my hypothetical behavior. I’m not going to dignify that since there was no basis for you to assume those things. You may not understand or want a world where unconditi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/08/24 12:36 PM
0	Why do *some men, try to convince virginal & low n count women to have sex without marriage/commitment? She’s quoting what the other commenter said first. I don’t think she knows how to format quotes. If you read the thread you would know that.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/08/24 04:57 AM
1	Why do *some men, try to convince virginal & low n count women to have sex without marriage/commitment? Oh brother. You really are living in delulu land if you think no woman would put her morals above your advances. “It works.” Not on women like me who actually mean something when they say it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/08/24 04:54 AM
0	Why do *some men, try to convince virginal & low n count women to have sex without marriage/commitment? I frequently encounter people like you when perusing this sub. They seem to be so assured and so comforted by the conviction that we are all just selfish animals, using one another, and there’s nothing the matter with that. I suspect it’s part of a larger worldview/framework, given the rabid defensiveness of that position and quick handwaving away of anything that questions it. Without fail, people who hold your position insist dogmatically that they just know everyone’s inner thoughts and motiv…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/08/24 04:50 AM
–	What is an average looking woman? Can we get examples “I’m telling you, almost all women are a 6 and below!” Tell me you don’t understand statistics. Almost all women are between a 1 and a 9. That’s how bell curves work 😂	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/08/24 04:00 AM
1	CMV: the woman is the prize Ah yeah. I’m not here to educate anyone on how to be a moral person. Most of us were raised to treat others well, and if you choose to opt out or act like there’s not a general consensus on upright behavior, feel free to be in denial about that.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/07/24 08:45 PM
2	CMV: the woman is the prize I never said wanting sex is depraved. I said looking at a woman with the primary goal of banging her as quickly and cheaply as possible is disgusting. Allowing the relationship to progress in a normal way without making that the objective is fine. So why did you say this And women wanting men who protect, provide, and are emotionally available are disgusting as well. If you don’t think that?	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/07/24 08:29 PM
–	CMV: the woman is the prize If you were well adjusted you would understand my previous comment, since that is what healthy people look for in relationships. They also look for sex, but their objective is to establish a healthy relationship with someone that includes sex, not simply to have sex as quickly and as cheaply as possible. Anyone who word their goals in that way is depraved. Now feel free to answer the question I asked earlier since you are changing the subject and did not answer it. What’s disgusting about a man …	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/07/24 08:07 PM
–	CMV: the woman is the prize Wholesome, healthy, desirable to well-adjusted people (those who come from or at least understand the dynamics of functional families). Feel free to explain why you think it is disgusting for a man to be of a mindset to protect, provide, and be emotionally available.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/07/24 06:51 PM
–	CMV: the woman is the prize There’s literally nothing parallel about what you said and I said. Those are good qualities in a man. The female parallel would be nurturing, maternal, submissive, emotionally supportive - good, attractive qualities in a woman. Not “fuck as quickly and for as close to free as possible.”	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/07/24 05:16 PM
–	CMV: the woman is the prize Religious beliefs. I’m a Christian.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/07/24 03:58 PM
–	CMV: the woman is the prize Traditional framework is that the woman is stereotypical attractive/well cared for/good personality in the sense that she is a prize for the right person who matches her. Then, said man who wants to be with the woman invests effort and yes, money, to demonstrate his sincerity in wanting to pursue her. He treats her like a gentleman and depending on morals, either no sex before marriage or not for quite a while. And then, after marriage, once they are in a household together, then at that point t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/07/24 12:05 PM
2	CMV: the woman is the prize You haven’t cited any Bible verses. That’s because you don’t have any for your false claims. I’ll keep waiting.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/07/24 05:36 AM
–	CMV: the woman is the prize You are someone who utilizes porn and escorts. You have nothing to do with the Mennonites. Not sure why you’re bringing them up. If you actually read the Bible, you’d know that celibacy for men and women is spoken highly of. As an unmarried person who has not had the opportunity to be married, my life is an example of faithful service and hard work. I would not look to someone such as yourself for approval. Your comments border on delusion, since you as a complete unrepentant sinner engaging in …	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/07/24 05:34 AM
–	CMV: the woman is the prize Provide a source for your claim.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/07/24 05:20 AM
–	CMV: the woman is the prize Sweetie, I’m not taking my cues from a porn addict. You want to start citing some Bible verses for those claims, I’ll be all ears. Haven’t heard you cite a single passage so far. I’ll wait.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/07/24 05:13 AM
–	CMV: the woman is the prize This is just… bad. Perusal of your post history shows you to be a porn addict, actually posting about your lack of critical thinking skills and the fact that you never went past 5th grade math. You are out here in left field making up Biblical interpretations that 99% (or more) of actual theologians disagree with, which also contradict the plain text of the Bible. There’s not an honest person alive who thinks Jesus wants you to hire escorts and watch porn. I actually feel sorry for you. I’ve bee…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/07/24 05:11 AM
–	CMV: the woman is the prize Sure Jan. so when Jesus said, “Whoever looks at a woman with lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart,” was he referring to a man or a woman committing adultery?	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/07/24 05:01 AM
–	CMV: the woman is the prize The reference to sexual behavior is a dictate that male humans and female humans remain virgins until marriage. I’m sorry that you can’t deduce that due to the quote not actually stating MALE VIRGINITY. You’re a troll. Explain how you can sleep around without contradicting the verses I listed above. Of course you can’t. And also, as a depraved person, I’m curious why you have any concern about the structure of my church or the quality of my teaching. You are not a Christian in any sense of the t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/07/24 04:51 AM
–	CMV: the woman is the prize And just to really go above and beyond, since you are in denial, I’ll send this home with some passages directly addressed to men: ““You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall not commit adultery.’ But I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lustful intent has already committed adultery with her in his heart. If your right eye causes you to sin, tear it out and throw it away. For it is better that you lose one of your members than that your whole body be thrown into hell.” ‭‭Matthe…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/07/24 04:36 AM
–	CMV: the woman is the prize You are being intentionally dense. Allow me to break this down since it is SO confusing for you. The Bible blanket bans all extramarital sex in the New Testament, for men and women. Hebrews 13:4 gets this point across very well: “Marriage should be honored by all, and the marriage bed kept pure, for God will judge the adulterer and all the sexually immoral.” If you don’t have sex outside of marriage, then you will be a virgin when you get married. If you choose to have sex outside of marriage, y…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/07/24 04:25 AM
–	CMV: the woman is the prize You are profoundly unintelligent, as evidenced by your childlike magical thinking that tells you that you know why I am single when you know nothing about me. There are all sorts of reasons for a person to be single Started dating late due to being brainwashed by teachings about courtship/not dating until you were literally ready to marry. Dated a person but values turned out to be different. Overly optimistic about a relationship, but it turns out the guy is unwilling to compromise on serious i…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/07/24 03:40 AM
–	CMV: the woman is the prize Oh I’m sure he has women just lining up for that opportunity 😂	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/07/24 03:16 AM
–	CMV: the woman is the prize Red pill men will still not treat a women like this well, in my experience of being such a woman and dating a red pill man, versus the way I was treated by normal (non red pill) men with traditional values.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/07/24 03:15 AM
–	CMV: the woman is the prize Not true. I am 31 and all of the things, including a virgin. I dated a 40 year old Redpill man who initially lied to me that he was 34. He knew I was unusual and rare and still refused to treat me well. In fact, I have never been so disrespected in a relationship. He took me out on one single dinner date the entire time we dated (which I ended up paying my share of). Once we went to his house, every date just became some low effort Netflix and chill type situation, presumably because he wanted t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/07/24 03:12 AM
–	CMV: the woman is the prize I’m all except being 31. And from what I understand, not having children is more desirable than already having children. Regardless, being all of those things wasn’t enough for the Redpill guy to treat me like a prize. Despite the fact that all the other guys I dated (and some who I did not date) felt that I was. Red pill guys just don’t actually want to treat women well. They don’t respect them, and the goal is that by setting these unrealistic expectations, they will always have an excuse to d…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/07/24 03:03 AM
–	CMV: the woman is the prize Exactly. It’s disgusting and entirely transactional. Not that I allowed anyone to do that to me, but knowing that they want to use my body the way someone tries to get the best deal on a rental car is sickening.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/07/24 02:58 AM
1	Most ppl want to be the Adorers This makes sense to me. Disregarding women who have obvious bad character and no class/hoes who can be identified a mile away, most women are very faithful and will not cheat on a man. They are statistically more likely to stick around in the "for worse" part of marriage when their spouse gets disabled, cancer, etc. Also, one of the main reasons non-hoe women would be led to cheat has to do with feeling unloved or uncared about. A man who is married to a normal woman with morals and adores her, …	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/07/24 02:46 AM
1	What do men want women to do when they become sexually undesirable as they age? What I said is that fornication is a sin, for men and women. Many people commit that sin and still go on to get married. But if you actually follow the Bible, you will be a virgin at marriage, unless your spouse died and you are taking a second marriage. “But sexual immorality and all impurity or covetousness must not even be named among you, as is proper among saints.” ‭‭Ephesians‬ ‭5‬:‭3‬ ‭ESV‬‬ https://bible.com/bible/59/eph.5.3.ESV “Now the works of the flesh are evident: sexual immorality, …	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/07/24 06:21 PM
1	What do men want women to do when they become sexually undesirable as they age? Dang, I checked your post history and you’re like.. super weird and creepy as all get out 😬	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/07/24 08:10 AM
1	What do men want women to do when they become sexually undesirable as they age? You are certainly special 😆 no, the New Testament is very clear that sex is for marriage only, and that fornicators and adulterers of either sex who do not repent will go to hell. This is common knowledge and not a matter of opinion. No, I shouldn’t be on my 3rd or 4th pregnancy. I should remain celibate, as I am. Babies are for after marriage :) Your bitterness is showing. Happy people don’t go around telling other people that they should be upset about their lives. It’s very clear that you wou…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/07/24 08:04 AM
1	What do men want women to do when they become sexually undesirable as they age? I’m a Christian. Christians who follow the Bible don’t have sex until after marriage. We still have committed relationships prior to marriage, they just don’t include fornication. You seem very naive and seem to think that everyone lives their life and operates the way you would. Happy to educate you that the world is more diverse than your narrow perspective :)	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/07/24 07:04 AM
0	What do men want women to do when they become sexually undesirable as they age? Oh no, I’m currently single but have been in multiple committed relationships in the past decade. You are really grasping at straws and making stuff up from thin air, as though you have any basis on which to tell me whether or not I’ve been in a relationship. But yeah, I’ve had more guys interested than I can count, and a few that I clicked with have led to committed relationships. I’m not sure why the idea of that bothers you… except that you’re an unhappy person who likes to imagine women bein…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/07/24 05:38 AM
1	What do men want women to do when they become sexually undesirable as they age? Well I’m a virgin. So no one has used me for anything. And I’ve had no shortage of men who wanted to commit/have committed to me. Which is pretty normal as a conventionally attractive, slim, sociable woman with a great job, no kids, and my life together. I think you’re just wrong :)	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/07/24 05:12 AM
1	What do men want women to do when they become sexually undesirable as they age? Yes they do, but it’s not the viewpoint expressed above. The idea that ALL men of ALL ages are only interested in women under 25 is ludicrous. Some men have a youth/age gap fetish. Most people date others who are close to their age. I’ve always dated within 4 years of my age. So now that I’m 31, I date men in their mid 30s. And there are no shortage of men in that range who are interested in me.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/07/24 04:29 AM
3	What do men want women to do when they become sexually undesirable as they age? In the nicest way possible, from a fellow woman and a medical professional, you are dealing with an anxiety disorder. Your concerns are not realistic and don’t reflect reality. You are getting consumed with this idea that your youth is over which is flat out ridiculous. You have about an entire decade left of being considered young by most people. Life is not a 4 year span from 18-22. Don’t be ridiculous. I’m sorry you ran into this corner of the internet before you were old enough not to give a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/07/24 08:19 AM
2	What do men want women to do when they become sexually undesirable as they age? Ah, here we have a specimen of the Leonardo DiCaprio persuasion, mistakenly convinced that all men experience attraction just the same way that he does. That’s because little Johnny has a low IQ and doesn’t understand the theory of mind. He doesn’t understand that not everyone has the same opinions and preferences as he does. He is in a childlike state of mind where his opinions are the center of the universe and the arbiter of absolute truth. Poor naive little Johnny, still suckling on the Redp…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/07/24 08:04 AM
3	Expecting men to pay on the first date is the same as expecting women to have sex on the first date. lol. You troubled soul… fortunately Mother Nature has its way of keeping folks like you from reproducing.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/07/24 07:53 PM
4	Expecting men to pay on the first date is the same as expecting women to have sex on the first date. Lol. Literally the most parallel thing would be paying for the second date, or paying an equivalent amount of cash for nearly anything else. Even prostitutes who actually trade money for sex charge more than the price of a meal. And that’s prostitutes! The rest of us don’t even think of sex as for sale/a transaction. Who knows what’s going on in OPs troubled brain 🥴	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/07/24 07:52 PM
21	Expecting men to pay on the first date is the same as expecting women to have sex on the first date. This is the most autistic thing I’ve ever seen on this sub, and that’s saying something. You have zero grasp of how human relationships work and need to get some help.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/07/24 05:31 PM
–	How both Men and Women are actually on the same page about Body Count. This is an extremely long-winded post. I heard a lot about how men don’t like high body count in women, but never got to the part about how women don’t like high body count in men. Title is a bit misleading. How about, don’t be a hoe, regardless of who you are, man or woman. It’s bad for your character and bad for society. And try, try to step outside of your low view of human nature to realize that not everyone objectifies or uses other people. And no, when you do something for someone and the …	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/07/24 05:28 PM
1	Which guy are you picking? My standards are reasonable for myself. I’m sorry you have such a chip on your shoulder.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/07/24 06:17 PM
1	Which guy are you picking? My good sir, I make 6 figures. I do not have children. I already said that but you aren’t listening. I am not in the same dating pool as these men :) Good day!	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/07/24 05:39 PM
1	Which guy are you picking? No dude. I don’t care what you do. This is just a silly game with no impact on anything. You are under some delusion that every woman in the world has to choose from a pool of men with things they consider fatal flaws, or dealbreakers. Making minimum wage or having a baby momma or a micropenis deformity is not a minor issue. Obviously, the only women who are realistically mucking through these type of options would be low socioeconomic status women, likely overweight or obese, probably with a fe…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/07/24 05:22 PM
2	Which guy are you picking? lol. Try 1) no kids 2) good morals 3) good personality 4) above 50% for height 5) takes care of himself/not ugly 6) hard worker with good salary at least close to mine or higher. I’m all of those things, and I want a partner with all of those things :) that’s fair in my book! P.S. if you have desirable traits, you can look for a partner with equal desirable traits. That’s all I’m doing.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/07/24 05:11 PM
1	Which guy are you picking? I honestly have no idea what you are talking about. Also, you forgot the 4th option, which is to be single. Being single is always an option. Women are looking for men who, by being in a relationship with them, create a more positive day to day experience of life. These men might be a match for someone, but definitely not a woman such as myself. These men are objectively in a low dating league, so will probably match with women in a low dating league. I am not one of those women. That’s all ther…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/07/24 04:57 PM
1	Which guy are you picking? I wouldn’t date any of those men, heck I wouldn’t even swipe right. I’m not a single mother so I’m not dating any guy with a baby momma. I’m 5’6” so I’m only dating guys at least 5’9” or so. And zero dating experience + micropenis? I can’t even. Maybe come up with some more realistic options that would be reasonable for a conventionally attractive woman with a good job making 6 figures, normal social skills, and slim with no physical deformities. These men sound like bottom of the barrel types.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/07/24 04:42 PM
1	A guy has a reasonable chance to date a younger woman is he actively tries to, age gap relationships are nowhere near as unusual as the Blue Pillers here say Now, in my circle of well adjusted friends in college (guys and girls) there no age gap relationships going on. At 18-20, I would have dated a guy maybe 2-3 years older, tops. That age range has stayed stable and moved up with me. I prefer at 31 not to date more than 5-6 years my senior, maybe 1 year younger if mature. Generally, a preference of very young women dating older men is that they desire to exploit their money or benefit from their established status. They generally have moral issues …	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/07/24 04:26 PM
18	Question For Red Pill: How would you feel/think about a woman from 28-35 who said she is a virgin? Let’s say, she is not lying. Nope, you forgot the possibility of not open to premarital sex + haven’t found the right person to marry. You wouldn’t say something is “certainly off” about a person who is 28+ and not married. But a person with moral or religious reasons for being celibate before marriage WILL be a virgin unless they are married if they are fully committed to their moral code. I’m a conventionally attractive 31F virgin who’s had multiple boyfriends/relationships. I also have a great job which requires a high l…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/07/24 04:21 PM
5	A 90% women and 10% men world would be better Exactly. OP's post is the dream of lazy men. They dream of a world where what they want is not in demand and comes to them easily. A world like this would be a nightmare because even more men would be lazy and complacement. What we need is for them to step up, be disciplined, hardworking, visionary, and inspire respect. (Single men who actually do this are relatively rare, and get snagged quickly by women without having to try.) A 50/50 ratio means that things are fair for both sexes and people …	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/06/24 09:44 PM
1	Ladies with high standards, no judgement, what are your standards and how do you justify them? I really do not understand your point. For one, I’ve never dated anyone who made 300k, or anyone taller than like 6’2”. I’m not specifically looking for those metrics, but yes the entire picture of what I need in a partner (specific personality traits, intelligence, compatible religion/worldview) makes for a small pool. I’m not going to be compatible with most people, period. People with basic interests, lack of any less common beliefs, and women with lower intelligence, will all find a larger p…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/06/24 11:31 PM
1	Ladies with high standards, no judgement, what are your standards and how do you justify them? Right, but again, there are like 50,000 people to swipe on within a normal radius of a large city. Too high standards might be what you have if you can’t find dates or relationships. I’m extremely selective and probably only swipe right 2-5 times out of 100 on an app, but with a huge pool that still leaves plenty of guys to match with and talk with, and out of that, you’re really only looking for a single person to focus on and progress to a relationship with. So by that metric, my standards are…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/06/24 10:18 PM
5	Ladies with high standards, no judgement, what are your standards and how do you justify them? “High standards” to me is arbitrary. Does high standards mean high in proportion to the seeker, or just high in general? If a person is “above average” in whatever way, then isn’t it equality and normal for them to match with someone of a similar standing in those areas? I’m 5’6” and look for guys who are at least 5’9,” although closer to 6’ is more ideal. I think that’s reasonable as my height is above average for a woman. I generally date guys who are financially stable/comfortable because I a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/06/24 07:17 AM
2	Should women go to university young in western nations? Living frugally doesn’t mean living in poverty, it just means being responsible and not wasting money. For example, I go in person to the store to buy groceries and then cook delicious food. I enjoy the process and get great healthy meals from it. Runs me about $100 every 2 weeks. I could burn through that in just 2 or 3 door dash orders. But yeah, if you want a flat out luxury lifestyle and frequent trips, expensive takeout/restaurant meals, alcohol, expensive beauty treatments frequently, yeah…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/05/24 05:09 PM
2	Should women go to university young in western nations? I’m sorry but 250k is an absurd number. I live in a major metropolitan area and as recently as 3-4 years ago I was living on about 15-17k a year for rent with one roommate and ALL living expenses. I now make 6 figures and choose to part more for rent, but the space I’m in could easily house a family of 3, and that’s paid for in my single low 6 figures income. If I were the bread winner, I have no doubt that I could support my spouse and child on what I’m currently making alone. As it is, I have …	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/05/24 04:59 PM
1	If women want sex as much as men, why do they consider it “being used,” make men wait, and have the ability to go without sex for extended periods of time? Your comment can be read as, “if a man is attractive enough, no woman will make him wait.” That’s false. If that’s not what you meant, good.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/05/24 01:21 AM
2	If women want sex as much as men, why do they consider it “being used,” make men wait, and have the ability to go without sex for extended periods of time? Well there are a percentage of women who aren’t having premarital sex with any man, no matter who he is. Whether a man “has to wait” depends on who he is dating as much as his own desirability.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/05/24 11:50 PM
2	If women want sex as much as men, why do they consider it “being used,” make men wait, and have the ability to go without sex for extended periods of time? The issue is not whether women want sex as much as men (they don’t want it quite as much on average). The issue is whether they are willing to have sex, and if so, at what point in the relationship. Having a slightly lower sex drive, women are more able to be rational and think, “hm, is it really a good idea for me to have sex with this man I’m dating but not formally committed to/engaged to/married to?” This is all it is. It’s really not complicated. When we are comfortable and the situation is…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/05/24 11:47 PM
2	The reason redpill guys don't date women like Pearl that agree with all their talking points is because they like the idea of "breaking" an independent woman. Dude. Only confused/confusing person in this conversation is you. Everything I’m saying is normal common sense and you’re over here calling women things and talking about marrying cellphones. That’s the only “madness” here. G’day sir.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/05/24 05:38 PM
2	The reason redpill guys don't date women like Pearl that agree with all their talking points is because they like the idea of "breaking" an independent woman. No, a person cannot legally marry an object. That is not what is meant by wife up. You don’t think I’m a hater, you’re just saying that as part of your “I’m a troll” schtick. I respect you for trying to play the part, but there’s so need to be so ridiculous :)	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/05/24 05:00 PM
2	The reason redpill guys don't date women like Pearl that agree with all their talking points is because they like the idea of "breaking" an independent woman. Has nothing to do with identifying. Women are people, not objects, and anyone who disagrees is simply wrong. You used object language (“something”) because you are a misogynist and don’t view women as persons.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/05/24 04:06 PM
2	The reason redpill guys don't date women like Pearl that agree with all their talking points is because they like the idea of "breaking" an independent woman. “Someone” is the gender neutral way of referring to a person. “Something” is the gender neutral way of referring to an object.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/05/24 03:41 PM
1	50/50 should be the norm, anyone who think otherwise is entitled. Drizzle drizzle In my circles, men and women expect that the man will pay and both want it that way. That’s fine if you’re dating less traditional people and have a less traditional mindset. If you want to go Dutch and your date does as well, do you. Your mistake is that assuming that all women in these traditional situations are taking advantage of men or viewing them as a walking wallet. That’s not why men or women care about the man being the one to pay. It’s part of the dance of traditional dating and allow…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/24 05:36 PM
1	50/50 should be the norm, anyone who think otherwise is entitled. Drizzle drizzle Well, at the very least, they know 30 minutes into the date whether they like her and see her as a potential girlfriend. And if they do think highly of her, they would absolutely not allow her to pay for anything on the date.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/24 12:04 PM
1	50/50 should be the norm, anyone who think otherwise is entitled. Drizzle drizzle You’re close, but obviously women aren’t a commodity so it doesn’t work exactly the same way. No one has ever spent anything close to $500 on a date with me nor would I feel comfortable if they did. But if a man did not want to pay even $5-20 to cover my coffee or a meal during a 2-3 hour date, I’d rightfully assume he wasn’t that interested. Over the past 10 years I’ve been dating, never once has a man not offered to pay for me or suggested we split the bill. They know it would make them look p…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/24 12:00 PM
1	50/50 should be the norm, anyone who think otherwise is entitled. Drizzle drizzle The point is that we in this forum are supposedly here to learn/debate. If certain men in this forum are mistaken, the goal is for their mistaken beliefs to be corrected, not for all women to avoid dating them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/24 06:42 AM
1	50/50 should be the norm, anyone who think otherwise is entitled. Drizzle drizzle Lots of men ITT are saying they don’t believe in ever paying for a woman on a date.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/24 06:15 AM
1	50/50 should be the norm, anyone who think otherwise is entitled. Drizzle drizzle This conversation has nothing to do with me. We are talking about women and men in general. Excuse you for your rude comment. I’m the farthest thing from promiscuous and have never once had a man not want to pay for me on a date. This is not a problem that affects me.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/24 06:13 AM
1	50/50 should be the norm, anyone who think otherwise is entitled. Drizzle drizzle He should understand that if he refuses to pay, he will be seen as not appreciating the woman he is on the date with, regardless of how he views his own actions. Payment is the way that we express how much something is worth. Say you are into collecting something, like first edition comic books. All the collectors know this particular comic book goes for $500. But you say, “I’m a huge fan of this comic strip, and I want more than anything to get my hands on a copy of this first edition. But it d…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/24 06:12 AM
1	50/50 should be the norm, anyone who think otherwise is entitled. Drizzle drizzle And men know whether or not they respect a woman before they ask her on a date.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/24 06:04 AM
1	50/50 should be the norm, anyone who think otherwise is entitled. Drizzle drizzle I’m neither but that’s my point. You don’t pay for women you don’t respect. If a guy respects a girl, he will be happy to pay.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/24 03:06 AM
1	Saving yourself for marriage - what is your opinion? Encouraged to see your perspective and completely agree. Some may look down on me because I’m 31 and still saving myself, but I’m proud of sticking to my values and want that to be something special only for the man I marry. So much trouble comes from premarital sex. If people avoided premarital sex completely, married carefully, and avoided divorce, we would live in an entirely different type of society. Which is why I’m okay with stigmatizing these negative behaviors - they have a harmful effe…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/05/24 07:55 PM
3	50/50 should be the norm, anyone who think otherwise is entitled. Drizzle drizzle Every woman knows that a man who doesn’t want to even pay for a simple meal or coffee doesn’t view her highly. That’s precisely why I would be embarrassed/offended if a guy didn’t insist on paying for me (although I have offered). That hasn’t happened, but i absolutely would not see a guy again if he treated me like that. It’s akin to an insult.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/05/24 07:46 PM
3	50/50 should be the norm, anyone who think otherwise is entitled. Drizzle drizzle Exactly! But good luck trying to explain that on here. Most only see the numbers and think those should be exactly equal. Money being even is their highest goal in a relationship. How “even Stevens” behavior affects the relationship dynamics is none of their concern. But when relationship dynamics are the highest priority, money is less important. Yet even in traditional relationships, you will not see well-intentioned girls taking advantage of a man’s generosity. They order less expensive meals…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/05/24 07:42 PM
3	50/50 should be the norm, anyone who think otherwise is entitled. Drizzle drizzle Yeah, it does kind of blow my mind that parents would be on here. What does this world of dating woes have to do with your life? I can’t imagine being involved in this or even being on Reddit much at all after I have kids.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/05/24 07:32 PM
–	Have you noticed the only ones who seem to care about age gap relationships are older or less desirable women, and they only care when the man is older? Haha nailed it 😂 and the main people who like age gap relationships are older creepy men who want to date women much younger than themselves. We see you ;) if you were normal or as desirable as you think you are, you would have married a young woman while you were a young man, like normal people do.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/05/24 07:06 PM
2	This sub is all negativity and debate. Post what you admire, appreciate, and enjoy about the opposite sex. You got a good one!	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/05/24 06:56 PM
3	This sub is all negativity and debate. Post what you admire, appreciate, and enjoy about the opposite sex. Average Redditor acting like he knows more about a person’s spouse that they do 🙄	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/05/24 06:55 PM
2	This sub is all negativity and debate. Post what you admire, appreciate, and enjoy about the opposite sex. This is amusing to you?	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/05/24 06:50 PM
1	Being a traditional woman doesn’t mean you don’t have standards. I did read your comment. I think you need to reread my original one. Your comment was unnecessary because I’m not addressing “all men.” What are you confused about?	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/05/24 03:15 PM
1	Social media hasn't just raised standards through access, it's also exposed us to the awful realities of male and female behavior Literally what does that have to do with anything. Find a wonderful person of the gender you are seeking.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/05/24 03:05 PM
1	Being a traditional woman doesn’t mean you don’t have standards. I never said most men outside of this sub, so your clarification is not necessary. I’m not even speaking of redditors. I’m speaking of men in purple pill debate, not women, and not any other men on Reddit or elsewhere.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/05/24 12:46 PM
1	Being a traditional woman doesn’t mean you don’t have standards. What does your comment have to do with anything I said?	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/05/24 12:35 PM
0	Being a traditional woman doesn’t mean you don’t have standards. It’s a general impression and largely true. Certainly not everyone in this space thinks the same way, but yes this applies to most in the herd.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/05/24 12:34 PM
2	If you let your girlfriend go on an all girls vacation, don't cry to anyone when she cheats on you A person won’t cheat unless they are open to it. Opportunity to cheat is everywhere/anytime you aren’t watching. But whether that person will cheat on you is entirely up to them. There are all sorts of women who would never cheat on their partner for any reason. Giving them the opportunity to potentially get away with cheating (aka leaving the house unsupervised) is not going to cause them to cheat. But good for you for sharing with us that that’s how you think. You would cheat if given the oppo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/05/24 02:02 AM
2	Developing feelings for other people in a long term relationship is normal, its whether you indulge in them is what makes the difference Yeah I wouldn’t say that’s normal. Noticing people are attractive, sure. Having feelings for them? Not normal. If it’s happening it’s a sign that your attachment to your partner is weak.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/05/24 01:59 AM
1	Social media hasn't just raised standards through access, it's also exposed us to the awful realities of male and female behavior Well, good thing none of us are marrying “women” or “men.” The point of dating is to find an individual who is wonderful, even if that makes them an outlier, and marry them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/05/24 01:51 AM
6	Being a traditional woman doesn’t mean you don’t have standards. Good for you. That’s the mentality I have and seek out. Many men in this sub do not think the way you do.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/05/24 01:44 AM
9	Being a traditional woman doesn’t mean you don’t have standards. Exactly. Damned either way. Redpill isn’t an ideology of thinking people, it’s the mentally muddled fumings of angry people who are seeking to rationalize their anger towards women. Virginity is another one. Be pure, but then when you tell me you’re still a virgin I’ll judge you and question if you’re frigid. Redpill men want to be angry at women. That’s the point. How they rationalize that mentally is secondary.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/05/24 01:43 AM
1	Women are unable to handle rejection I mean, you're welcome to think whatever you want. It's not like this was your relationship so not sure why you care. This guy wasn't pushing me for sex or anything and was very cool/detached, maybe playing hard to get which was annoying and limited how close I could get to him. Basically he would act nonchalant, rarely initiate dates/show interest, and then when I would break it off he would suddenly act like a jilted lover. Then get back together, he barely texts me between dates, rinse and re…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/05/24 04:55 PM
–	Women are unable to handle rejection Would you kiss someone who was lying to you? Sometimes you have to listen to your intuition, and that little voice told me he could not be trusted. I was always patient and wanted to see where things went. I gave him all my focused attention and did give him affection in the form of hugs and cuddling, but at the end of the day his dishonesty was the reason I couldn’t trust him fully. I wanted to. I’m not weaponizing anything. Kissing is the most intimate thing I’ll do before marriage, and I rese…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/05/24 03:37 PM
–	Women are unable to handle rejection Don't feel too bad for him.. he lied to me about his age among other things and was a borderline alcoholic. His red flags were the reason I wasn't ready to commit, although I liked him and wanted to see him become a better version of himself. Yeah I'm a virgin for religious reasons, saving sex for after marriage. It's never been an issue, because lots of guys are willing to wait if it means being with a girl who they find very desirable. I wouldn't be interested in someone who would walk over th…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/05/24 02:43 PM
–	Women are unable to handle rejection I’ve literally been in a situationship where the guy wanted to be exclusive and I wasn’t ready for that because I wasn’t fully sure about him. Sex was not involved and we didn’t even kiss. This went on for >6 months. So just be aware that either partner, man or woman, can be the hesitant person and rate limiting step for the relationship. Red pill dogma thinks that women are always chasing men who like them less and that’s just not the case. Although it does make for a nice revenge fantasy for g…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/05/24 12:31 PM
–	Women are unable to handle rejection Yeah, it’s such a superficial way to approach relationships. But you definitely see the people who put a high priority on their looks and define themselves by it. They want “hot” partners since they see themselves as hot and they think that’s what matters. I think it’s crass to define yourself by your looks and that humility is extremely attractive. Also, that seems like an extremely boring relationship unless you have a foundation of shared interests and a strong mental connection/friendship.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/05/24 04:36 AM
–	Women are unable to handle rejection Well of course, it depends on the particular man and the particular woman he is approaching to determine what his chances of success are. But I would say men have lower odds of acceptance by women, thus rejection is not as humiliating, and women have higher odds of acceptance therefore rejection is more humiliating. But I definitely see and am sensitive to the pain of a man being persistently rejected by every woman he approaches.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/05/24 04:26 AM
–	Women are unable to handle rejection I don't think it's especially common for a woman to both A) date above her league and B) believe that the relationship is more serious than it is. I'm not saying this doesn't happen, but delusional people are the exception rather than the rule. This is a bit of a red pill dogma though, that all women are chasing someone out of their league or unreasonable. I prefer to date people who are well within my league, and have tended to my own detriment to date people who later turn out to have major …	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/05/24 12:32 AM
–	Women are unable to handle rejection Let me just say, which is more humiliating, being rejected by a college with a 1% acceptance rate, or a school with a 75% acceptance rate? Consider that men are far less selective than women on the average.. so being rejected by a woman is not nearly as embarrassing as being rejected by a man. If a man doesn’t like you, that’s more damaging to a woman’s ego than vice versa. Now a given person (man or woman) may be acutely sensitive to rejection. That’s subjective. What’s objective is that the “h…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/05/24 11:18 PM
-1	I don't get how the "Man vs. Bear" conversation doesn't just make women look kinda stupid? This is the silliest internet phenomenon I’ve ever heard of. Of course I’d rather encounter another human of any sex while alone than encounter a wild bear. The percentage of humans who would be likely to both have evil desires and act on them towards a random stranger is vanishingly low. Of course it’s possible, but statistically very unlikely. I would wager to guess that human vs. bear encounters lead to serious injury far more often than human to human encounters, which occur nearly constantl…	/r/ExRedPill	03/05/24 06:46 PM
1	CMV: Luck is everything. Some men are just by default undesirable and there is no underlyting reason why You seem to be forgetting that the comment was made by a man. I was simply verbalizing my agreement. If you have an issue, you should have replied to his comment. Or maybe just leave dead threads alone. Lol	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/05/24 07:22 AM
1	CMV: Luck is everything. Some men are just by default undesirable and there is no underlyting reason why What exactly are you referring to? The bitterness of random men of the internet has nothing to do with me. There’s literally nothing for me to “cope” about. Just expressing my perspective on a situation that has no direct relationship to my life.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/05/24 12:42 AM
1	Can the “Men peak at 35” delusion finally end Ask them 🤷‍♀️	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/04/24 02:30 PM
1	Being more dominant and primal in the bed can dramatically improve your LTR That explains so much about the way most men in this forum treat me and other women. Not the case at all for me, but I guess it makes them feel more confident	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/04/24 03:38 AM
1	Can the “Men peak at 35” delusion finally end It just doesn’t make sense that you can look at someone a full decade younger than yourself and see “old.” If I’m old at 30, he’s decrepit at 40. As it is, we’re both taking good care of ourselves (well, more me than him since he was a borderline alcoholic) but yeah. Age is relative. It’s one thing to say, yeah 20 years olds are in peak shape with zero sign of aging. Facts. But to say, I therefore want to partner myself with this person who is literally half my age and could be my child.. I’m se…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/04/24 07:32 PM
2	Can the “Men peak at 35” delusion finally end Sure as heck won’t be marrying a man 10 years my senior who thinks he is “settling” for me.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/04/24 07:16 PM
1	Can the “Men peak at 35” delusion finally end Say a guy is 40. His dream girl he had a crush on in college is now also 40. If he could have his dream girl now, she’s 40. Why would he feel that his dream girl doesn’t age, or that at 40, he should ideally be with a woman who was an infant when he was in college? The last guy I dated was 39 (8.5 years my senior) and lied to me making me think he was only 4 years older. I swear, you could tell he felt like I was old and would have much rather been with a 20 year old. Delusional I tell you. Dati…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/04/24 07:14 PM
–	Rationalizing a pump and dump I see some opinions disagreeing with your perspective, not necessarily fuming. However, if you perceive that as anger, you may just be perceiving their distaste for bad/incorrect viewpoints. My standard for sleeping with someone is after marriage, so this post has nothing to do with me. I just find your thought process odd and bordering on “revenge fantasy.”	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/04/24 02:49 PM
–	Rationalizing a pump and dump Maybe it’s not as common as you think.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/04/24 01:50 PM
–	Rationalizing a pump and dump Wrong again. I live in the center of a large city. Expand your mind.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/04/24 01:48 PM
–	Rationalizing a pump and dump This is a very strange hill to die on. How do you know what other Reddit strangers have experienced in their sex lives? You’re perturbed that the women you’ve argued with on here have told you they’ve never been the victim of ghosting after a sexual encounter? That’s a good thing for them. Why would you be upset about this, unless you take unworthy pleasure in learning of bad things happening to women?	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/04/24 01:46 PM
–	Rationalizing a pump and dump Lol. No they aren’t, not the people who are actually following Christianity, Islam, etc. I know because I’m one of them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/04/24 01:37 PM
2	FWB is the best relationship for both modern men and women Which is exactly why it’s impossible to agree on controversial issues. Actual Christians have completely different fundamental priorities in life as compared to progressives/humanists/liberalists. But not many people are rational enough to debate and converse with this meta awareness of their differences	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/04/24 03:25 AM
1	Acts of Chivalry like paying for the date are from a bygone era and aren’t relevant lol dude. Quote one thing I’ve said that proves I hate men, and am therefore a misandrist. You can’t. I know it’s hard to accept that I can disagree with you without being a “hater.” Man aren’t oppressed as a group. Neither are women. But there will always be people who choose to feel oppressed, while others in their supposed “oppressed group” don’t feel that way. What you’re doing is focusing on the things you dislike about being a man. You’re imagining that if you were a woman, your life would…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/04/24 01:53 PM
1	Acts of Chivalry like paying for the date are from a bygone era and aren’t relevant lol dude. Quote one thing I’ve said that proves I hate men, and am therefore a misandrist. You can’t. I know it’s hard to accept that I can disagree with you without being a “hater.” Man aren’t oppressed as a group. Neither are women. But there will always be people who choose to feel oppressed, while others in their supposed “oppressed group” don’t feel that way. What you’re doing is focusing on the things you dislike about being a man. You’re imagining that if you were a woman, your life would…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/04/24 01:51 PM
3	Why is the role that makeup plays in women’s privilege downplayed so much? 😂 uh oh. The mental illness is strong with this one… here he says makeup is “lying” but in another comment he says he can tell when women are wearing makeup. Next up, wearing wigs is lying, wearing shapewear is lying, wearing colored contacts is lying. Hell, wearing clothes is lying! You’re just disguising a flabby body in that sharp structured suit. We must demand legal action against this madness! 😤 ban flattering clothing! I demand to see everyone’s bodies in all their human imperfection so I…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/04/24 01:08 PM
2	Why is the role that makeup plays in women’s privilege downplayed so much? What I’m doing isn’t deceiving anyone. The type and amount of makeup I apply is so faint that if I’m off my routine I don’t even necessarily remember if I’m leaving the house without it. I went to college in the Deep South where some girls do wear heavy makeup. I remember one day when a girl came to class without her usual face on and it was shocking. People who look that significantly different between daytime makeup and nighttime no makeup are rare. I’m definitely not one of them, lol. But I c…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/04/24 12:50 PM
2	Why is the role that makeup plays in women’s privilege downplayed so much? I think you need to reread my comment. :) Makeup changes how I look, slightly. Combing my hair, using a curling iron, or even taking a shower changes how I look slightly. None of those things even comes close to a transformative, dramatic change. If we’re talking transformative change, that’s heavy makeup. I don’t even own that stuff. I own tinted sunscreen. it’s extremely subtle and doesn’t even cover blemishes. Which is fine because I don’t have zits or anything to hide. You’re just revealing …	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/04/24 11:53 AM
0	Why is the role that makeup plays in women’s privilege downplayed so much? This argument always makes me question the intelligence of anyone asking it. All women wear, or have access to wear, some amount of makeup. Women don’t “jump” up in relative attractiveness by wearing a normal, average, amount of makeup. Because other women wear makeup too. If you are ranking them, their relative rank doesn’t change. Who exactly is getting hurt by women wearing makeup? Not other women, that’s for sure. Not men either. It just enhances appearance while worn, if done skillfully. I …	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/04/24 03:25 AM
1	Why is the role that makeup plays in women’s privilege downplayed so much? No, it doesn’t. My phone reminds me daily what I looked like 10 years ago. That would be awesome though 😂 i wear tinted sunscreen (aka BB cream) and blush. it makes the area around my eyes lighter, gives a slight white sheen bc of the sunscreen and makes my cheeks pinker. That’s all	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/04/24 03:13 AM
–	Acts of Chivalry like paying for the date are from a bygone era and aren’t relevant I hear you! I think it’s the best for me and the most common for people with a similar social/religious background as me, but not necessarily better. I definitely don’t expect everyone to live like I do! Like I run in a totally different circle from hippies, gamers, crunchy yoga people, gen z etc. there are millions of subcultures/different groups that I just don’t have a lot in common with and that’s okay! I guess if you are meeting people similar as you, that’s the best chance of agreeing on i…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/04/24 07:27 PM
–	Acts of Chivalry like paying for the date are from a bygone era and aren’t relevant I guess.. I don’t know how to put this best. The type of men I prefer to date don’t want to be treated this way. That’s not the primary criteria I’m filtering for, but every time I choose guys based on talking to them on a dating app and we click (or just meeting irl), that ends up being their philosophy on paying/gender roles. I’ve insisted on paying occasionally, but that’s usually after they’ve already been paying several times and I want to return the favor. Even then, most guys are resistan…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/04/24 03:17 PM
–	Why does red pill give conflicting messages about what men want? Redpill men by and large resent and want to complain about women. They need a damned if you do, damned if you don’t system to make sure they have ample material with which to criticize and belittle each and every woman. Because primarily, it’s about resenting women. The facts of the matter are secondary.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/04/24 03:51 PM
1	FWB is the best relationship for both modern men and women Yeah. The way you think is disgusting. I’m not surprised you have nothing to say for yourself	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/04/24 03:37 PM
1	"Equal contribution" You’ve clearly never been to med school. 😂 Her husband is being worked like a dog in med school. That’s a ton of effort and will pay off big time some day. She (like any med student spouse) will have to carry a disproportionate amount of household work for now. Good thing most people have common sense, which your post completely lacks.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/04/24 03:13 PM
1	FWB is the best relationship for both modern men and women The way you phrased it implies that an 18 year old is a universal ideal. Why 18? Because the law says that’s the youngest you can go? I’m not (as so many of you all love to think) jealous. I simply won’t listen to anyone say that all men want that. It’s just not the case, but men on here like to project their own borderline pedophilic tendencies as though all men are like that. They aren’t. And I want nothing to do with the subset of men who are pedophiles or ephebophiles or whatever you want to…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/04/24 03:05 PM
0	FWB is the best relationship for both modern men and women What the hell would a 50 year old have to do with an 18 year old anyway. That’s disgusting. It’s just strange how you worded it as though an 18 year old is the universal most desirable dating partner for men of all ages. Of course there are pervs. But most men are not trying to get with women younger than their own daughters.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/04/24 02:50 PM
1	FWB is the best relationship for both modern men and women I hope you mean her former marriage, not current marriage.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/04/24 02:46 PM
7	FWB is the best relationship for both modern men and women Preach. Finally SOMEONE on this sub who cares about anything other than their own personal happiness. Whatever happened to getting married first, then making babies	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/04/24 02:43 PM
1	Acts of Chivalry like paying for the date are from a bygone era and aren’t relevant Hm. I think mainly that he was passionate, not boring. I liked listening to the kind of stuff he talked about, mostly, although he did have the tendency to dominate the conversation a little too much. But he seemed very sure of himself. He had his stuff together in the sense of owning a home and took significant pride in that. But we differed in that he was very focused on defining himself by his possessions and I don't put as much emphasis on status symbols/get impressed by them. We met on Bumb…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/04/24 06:44 AM
1	Acts of Chivalry like paying for the date are from a bygone era and aren’t relevant I wish. I think we would have been good friends but there was too much sexual attraction for it to stay totally platonic. I just wish he had been willing to be a better person. Unfortunately I think he got pretty radicalized at some point in his life by the more extreme side of the manosphere. The dude hated women, but also wanted to sleep with them and marry one. That's some serious cognitive dissonance.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/04/24 05:11 AM
1	Acts of Chivalry like paying for the date are from a bygone era and aren’t relevant My friend, this man was late to every date we went on. He was 30 minutes late to the first date, 2 hours late to the last date, after we reconnected. I mean, I'm a late person myself but by that I mean, 5-10 minutes because of ADHD. And I'm rarely more than 1-2 minutes late to a date. We dated off and on for 2 months, then a 4-5 month break, then 3 more months. I never did anything sexual with him (premarital sex/intimacy is against my values). Hell we never even kissed. The only thing he accomp…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/04/24 05:03 AM
1	Acts of Chivalry like paying for the date are from a bygone era and aren’t relevant Let me remind you what you said. I explained my general situation in an above comment, and then 2 comments down you say the following: If a man is behaving in an even semi-entitled fashion, that’s because he has options. If you don’t want these men in your life, choose men without options who will treat you like a queen and be grateful to have you. These men are all ugly, but that’s the balance of nature. Thereby saying that you have read my account and decided on my behalf that the guy I dumped…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/04/24 02:22 AM
1	Acts of Chivalry like paying for the date are from a bygone era and aren’t relevant Why am I obligated to change my opinion? You’ve made a broad sweeping claim and valued that over the details of my actual situation. I actually disagree with your generalization and don’t think it’s nearly as helpful in interpreting reality as it would be to listen and ask questions case by case. It’s actually foolish of you to claim things about me given how little you initially knew about my situation. You are at best making a weak, highly fallible hypothesis. It’s strange to have to explain t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/04/24 12:24 AM
1	All the kerfuffle about "older men with younger women" overlooks what is possibly the biggest reason why it happens: Younger women often aren't looking for relationships. Living “the bachelor lifestyle” 🤢 I get that some men think that way, but it’s really disgusting. Promiscuity is such a turnoff. Now a man who’s spent his life productively, controlling his sex drive and focused on finding one woman for life.. that’s husband material. The rest of the womanizing manwhores are of no interest to women with good morals. The best predictor of future behavior is past behavior. Don’t marry hoes.. men or women :)	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/04/24 12:02 AM
1	Acts of Chivalry like paying for the date are from a bygone era and aren’t relevant Really weird reply. I’ve been completely straightforward and not snarky with you.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/04/24 11:55 PM
1	Acts of Chivalry like paying for the date are from a bygone era and aren’t relevant You’re ignoring the fact that people are not always aware of or valuing what they have. Make no mistake, my ex was very into me and made it clear he wanted a relationship. He liked chilling and spending time together.. but that always involved drinking, him showing up late, zero planning, etc. he just wasn’t willing to do nice things when we were apart, text me good morning, etc. very low on romance and affection. High on alcoholism and prone to ranting about things that made him angry. He wante…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/04/24 11:43 PM
1	Acts of Chivalry like paying for the date are from a bygone era and aren’t relevant What sort of women do you like to date? Liberal, egalitarian, feminist, high body count? Weird thing is, you see a lot of guys on here wanting to date an absolutely sweet, feminine lady, and yet somehow have no desire to be a man. Not many feminine/chaste women want deadbeat partners.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/04/24 11:01 PM
1	Acts of Chivalry like paying for the date are from a bygone era and aren’t relevant It’s just manners 🤷‍♀️ and being masculine.. sorry that upsets you?	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/04/24 10:50 PM
1	Acts of Chivalry like paying for the date are from a bygone era and aren’t relevant I don’t even know what we’re arguing about. I think you’re saying that because I dated a guy with a rotten personality who didn’t treat me well, that I am therefore not the type of person who could ever expect to be treated well by anyone but an ugly person. Wtf kind of take is that? The way someone treats you determines what you now deserve for the rest of your life? You’re way off base	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/04/24 10:49 PM
1	Acts of Chivalry like paying for the date are from a bygone era and aren’t relevant Lol not at all. I like most normal men. Don’t get along too well with misogynists though, although I can be patient with them for a while. I’m feminine and happy being a woman. Looking for a man who enjoys being a man rather than being jealous of “how easy women have it.” I swear, any man who takes that angle.. if you had been born a woman you would have been one of the feminists whining about being oppressed bc you can’t have an abortion in 2024. Y’all are just the whiny male and female version…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/04/24 10:39 PM
1	Acts of Chivalry like paying for the date are from a bygone era and aren’t relevant Haha you want me to DM you proof? I never said my ex situationship was an ugly midget. He was tall, reasonably attractive, lied about his age (9 years older than me instead of 4), well off financially, bitter against women, and has manipulative tendencies. He was an alcoholic too. Sorry reality doesn’t comport 100% with your theories. Even if there are trends, they are loose with tons of exceptions.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/04/24 10:30 PM
0	Acts of Chivalry like paying for the date are from a bygone era and aren’t relevant The last man I dated thought that way. And a lot of the manosphere residents he interacts with in Twitter also think that. I dated him because I found his mind interesting and i like fixing people/being patient with people who have issues, but he was too selfish to fix. And a self described incel with few friends and very little luck dating, partially because of some very off putting personality traits. I broke up with him twice and tried to break it off a few other times too. Truth is, anyone c…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/04/24 09:52 PM
1	Acts of Chivalry like paying for the date are from a bygone era and aren’t relevant Lol man. I was using voice dictate and said “an honor for him and an honor for me.” I guess it didn’t capture properly. Geez	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/04/24 09:42 PM
1	Acts of Chivalry like paying for the date are from a bygone era and aren’t relevant Yeah man, I didn’t say those things that you are thinking I said. If a man and I get into a relationship where we are exclusive in committed to each other, that is an honor for him in an order for me. Generally speaking, from most other people, that is also the case. Dating is exploratory, and just because I agree to go on a date with someone does not mean I would be willing to be in a relationship with them. It doesn’t really mean much of anything, other than I’m interested to see where it migh…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/04/24 09:39 PM
0	Acts of Chivalry like paying for the date are from a bygone era and aren’t relevant I’m glad you don’t think that way, but many redpill men do.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/04/24 09:33 PM
1	Acts of Chivalry like paying for the date are from a bygone era and aren’t relevant Exactly. Giving money to a homeless person is pure benevolence with nothing in it for you. Taking a woman on a date and paying for it may be nice, but there is definitely something in it for you as well. Negative ghostrider. It is not the amount of money a man spends on me that matters. If I’m being treated by anyone, I order water and pick a conservatively priced meal, etc. I’ve simply never met a man who didn’t want to pay for me and who didn’t insist on paying for me. It’s innate to the types…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/04/24 09:32 PM
1	Acts of Chivalry like paying for the date are from a bygone era and aren’t relevant No, this conversation was not about dating. You are mistaken. 1 hour ago I said : Umm yes.. Hello! As a woman, I’ve been in 3 relationships in my life… Being in a relationship with a person is an extremely exclusive position of importance in their life. Especially if they are a solid person with good morals, that’s an honor to be their partner. Sex should be even more rare. The topic was relationships. I’ve been on tons of dates. I’ve only committed to 3 men in relationships. I don’t have sex ou…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/04/24 09:22 PM
1	Acts of Chivalry like paying for the date are from a bygone era and aren’t relevant Maybe we’re taking past each other. I’m saying that it’s rare and an honor to be in a relationship with someone. You were originally giving me the impression that you thought it was easy to get a woman to be in a relationship with you, and that such a situation was not rare or an honor. I’m not talking about going on a date. I’m talking about committing and being bf/gf with someone. That’s serious, not cheap	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/04/24 08:59 PM
1	Acts of Chivalry like paying for the date are from a bygone era and aren’t relevant I’m clarifying WHICH dating scenarios are “exceptional treatment” 🙂 maybe it’s not “exceptional” to get the honor of dating a drug addict when you are a well kept, responsible professional. I’m speaking of dating your peer, someone on your dating level. It is an honor if your peer chooses to agree to be in a relationship with you. It’s an honor for both parties. why does that confuse you?	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/04/24 08:53 PM
1	Acts of Chivalry like paying for the date are from a bygone era and aren’t relevant Oops. Looks like you didn’t read my comment carefully :/ I didn’t say anything about myself there.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/04/24 08:48 PM
1	Acts of Chivalry like paying for the date are from a bygone era and aren’t relevant You’re getting so heated 😂 Please quote where I specified what league I’m in ;)	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/04/24 08:46 PM
1	Acts of Chivalry like paying for the date are from a bygone era and aren’t relevant My approach to dating is the more common/heteronormative one and is working fine for me :) i just enjoy trying to help troubled, angst filled souls like yourself to see the light. But most of you are lost causes.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/04/24 08:44 PM
1	Acts of Chivalry like paying for the date are from a bygone era and aren’t relevant Uh oh, he’s pulling out the ad hominem! Not sure why you had difficulty reading/understanding my last comment. It was written correctly, and in English :)	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/04/24 08:41 PM
1	Acts of Chivalry like paying for the date are from a bygone era and aren’t relevant So I think we still disagree! I do consider relationships to be pretty exceptional. It’s not easy to get most women near or above your league to be in a relationship with you.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/04/24 08:39 PM
1	Acts of Chivalry like paying for the date are from a bygone era and aren’t relevant I used to be on dating apps, but pretty much gave up due to the terrible character of many men on there. It used to be much better like 4-5 years ago. Fortunately I’ve had better luck meeting people organically recently :) but yeah, I don’t think a good woman would last long on most dating apps.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/04/24 08:36 PM
1	Acts of Chivalry like paying for the date are from a bygone era and aren’t relevant Generosity doesn’t make a person superior, it simply shifts the energy of a relationship but putting them in an “upper hand” position. In romantic hetero relationships, yes I think polarity is preferable. It’s more like masculine and feminine energy than superior and inferior.. but sorry if I triggered your inner misogynist there with that wording. Guys who are follow the masculine instinct to protect and provide, while also being loving to women and appreciative of women, will be in a position …	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/04/24 08:33 PM
2	Acts of Chivalry like paying for the date are from a bygone era and aren’t relevant Khan academy is a great resource if you have trouble reading English :)	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/04/24 08:22 PM
1	Acts of Chivalry like paying for the date are from a bygone era and aren’t relevant You said “Sex and relationships are "exceptional treatment" ? If you’ve changed your mind and no longer would put a question mark after that statement, good deal! That must mean we agree :)	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/04/24 08:20 PM
1	Acts of Chivalry like paying for the date are from a bygone era and aren’t relevant Believe it or not, I am. I offer to pay; men won’t let me. Part of generosity is that it puts you, subtlety, in a superior position. Women being in a more powerful, dominant position by financing straight relationships sabotages the power dynamic that most straight people prefer. It kills the sexual attraction for most straight people. It’s emasculating for a woman to pick up or split the check in front of a waiter. So women just find other ways to show their thoughtfulness and generosity that d…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/04/24 08:17 PM
2	Acts of Chivalry like paying for the date are from a bygone era and aren’t relevant If you’re having success dating, I really don’t think you’d be on here claiming the “juice isn’t worth the squeeze.” No one is begging you to get back out there. Take a break and enjoy single life. It’s not so bad :)	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/04/24 08:12 PM
1	Acts of Chivalry like paying for the date are from a bygone era and aren’t relevant I’m arguing that sex and relationships are exclusive. You are arguing that they are not exclusive and commonplace. Sure, if you’re a male or female slut, sex with you is not exclusive. But for non-promiscuous men and women, my earlier comment applies.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/04/24 08:09 PM
1	Acts of Chivalry like paying for the date are from a bygone era and aren’t relevant Is dating the only arena in which a woman can show herself to be generous? Or can she be generous in millions of ways, including but not limited to: donating to charity, tipping well, giving to needy/homeless people, doing unpaid labor at work, doing more than her fair share in the group project, etc? Your reply only makes it obvious that you have a dislike of and hatred towards women. You come across as highly biased.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/04/24 08:07 PM
2	Acts of Chivalry like paying for the date are from a bygone era and aren’t relevant 100%. I’m the person you’re describing in the second paragraph. But don’t try to tell men in this thread that women like me exist.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/04/24 07:57 PM
0	Acts of Chivalry like paying for the date are from a bygone era and aren’t relevant I think the problem is that men who are influenced by the manosphere can start to think: okay, I provided for her. Now she owes me and I don’t owe her ANYTHING else. Last guy I dated was heavily influenced by manosphere stuff. I genuinely think he thought that as long as he provided a home, an income, and conjugal rights/sexual satisfaction in a marriage, that was his whole job. When I said.. it makes me feel weird that you don’t hug me, don’t sit next to me on the couch, go days without texting…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/04/24 07:56 PM
1	Acts of Chivalry like paying for the date are from a bygone era and aren’t relevant “People are not allowed to like generous men! I’m tired of public opinion saying that generous people are awesome! It’s got to go!” Sorry bud. Stereotypes exist for a reason. Public opinion is what it is for a reason. Prosocial (aka selfless, good for others in society) traits will always be favored. Antisocial (selfish, greedy, out for my own interests) traits will always be looked on negatively.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/04/24 07:46 PM
1	Acts of Chivalry like paying for the date are from a bygone era and aren’t relevant I love how you’re being downvoted by the scrooges on here. You’re absolutely, 100% correct, and they don’t like their toes being stepped on.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/04/24 07:42 PM
1	Acts of Chivalry like paying for the date are from a bygone era and aren’t relevant Exactly. You’re figuring it out. Women don’t want any old man’s money (except those on OF, they are definitely after money). Normal women want to date a man they are proud of and who treats them well. Manners, chivalry, and yes, paying for dates are part of that same package. But the men we generally want to date aren’t online whining about how unfair it is that they have to pay for us. The men whining are doing so because they went on a date, something about them was not good (possibly their at…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/04/24 07:39 PM
1	Acts of Chivalry like paying for the date are from a bygone era and aren’t relevant Umm yes.. Hello! As a woman, I’ve been in 3 relationships in my life and none of those involved sex because I don’t believe in sex before marriage.. it’s morally irresponsible to risk creating kids outside a family, beyond just “god said so.” (Which also matters.) Being in a relationship with a person is an extremely exclusive position of importance in their life. Especially if they are a solid person with good morals, that’s an honor to be their partner. Sex should be even more rare. Some peopl…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/04/24 07:29 PM
0	Acts of Chivalry like paying for the date are from a bygone era and aren’t relevant What things do women want from men that you consider universally unreasonable? For example, do you consider it unreasonable for any woman to expect a man to pay for her? As in, there is not a woman on earth who should expect a man ever to pay for a date for her? And if so, why should women lower their expectations to match your perspective when they have been shown and verbally told by men over and over that men with genuine interest WILL not only offer but demand to pay for them. I could tell t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/04/24 07:22 PM
0	Acts of Chivalry like paying for the date are from a bygone era and aren’t relevant Maybe.. Don’t date people if your values are so different that you have to do something you resent to make them happy. Or, only pick people and date activities that you actually want to pay for. Those are your 2 options, best to just deal with reality and pick one. Like in the past month alone I’ve given a 20 dollar bill to a hungry person at the cafeteria and taken an older lady from my church out for her birthday which ran about $50. I’m well off financially so it doesn’t hurt me at all, actua…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/04/24 07:09 PM
1	Acts of Chivalry like paying for the date are from a bygone era and aren’t relevant Maybe.. Don’t date people if your values are so different that you have to do something you resent to make them happy. Or, only pick people and date activities that you actually want to pay for. Those are your 2 options, best to just deal with reality and pick one. Like in the past month alone I’ve given a 20 dollar bill to a hungry person at the cafeteria and taken an older lady from my church out for her birthday which ran about $50. I’m well off financially so it doesn’t hurt me at all, actua…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/04/24 07:08 PM
1	I think some people here undermine the fact that attraction can grow on an individual We demisexuals have it rough out here, for real. I feel like it’s normal not to want to jump on someone within 24 hours of meeting them but what do I know 🤷‍♀️ But yes, for me attraction definitely develops over time. 2-4 months is where I start to feel some sort of sexual desire towards that person as our emotional connection deepens. I’m waiting for marriage anyway so it’s a moot point, but that’s what goes on inside my head. I’ve also developed crushes on people years after meeting them and b…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/04/24 06:56 PM
2	Why do women hold men primarily responsible for romance in marriages? Excuse you! You’re totally mistaken, and that’s a good thing. Hopefully your social circle expands because you clearly haven’t met the good types of people I know personally. If you joined a church they would be the first people to invite you for lunch :)	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/04/24 02:45 PM
3	Why do women hold men primarily responsible for romance in marriages? Clearly you don’t go to church. The women there are nice and thoughtful as anything and will just adopt single people like their own kids. My preacher’s wife is like that. Heck my grandma is one of the most thoughtful, nicest people i know, especially to my grandpa. They’re just regular people, elderly now. The way a person treats people -if genuine- has much more to do with who they are, not the recipient of that kindness. Nice people are nice to everyone. For example, I practice similar levels…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/04/24 07:32 AM
2	CMV When a man doesn’t want a child but a woman still gives birth, a man should be cleared of the financial responsibility What if, instead of all these questions, we said, what’s in the best interest of children? It’s certainly not wise to conceive children outside of a stable, committed relationship. Ideally marriage. So don’t have sex with someone you wouldn’t want to parent with. And if you choose to, use at least 2 forms of contraception, one of which should be IUD/nexplanon. Or permanent sterilization. If a child is conceived, the child’s best interest is to be healthy and grow up in a loving home. It is not t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/04/24 06:04 PM
1	Most relationships end because men take advantage of their partner and stop putting in effort. Let me rephrase that.. I don’t mean “effortless.” A good relationship should feel natural and effortless, like you and the partner get each other and don’t fight a lot, in that sense it is zero effort. But it should not mean, you sit and stare at your phone and the tv and play games instead of interacting with your partner. Or you never do spontaneous thoughtful things for them with any frequency. Both partners should do those type of things for the other AND NOT look at it as burdensome. If you…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/24 07:47 PM
1	Most relationships end because men take advantage of their partner and stop putting in effort. I never said anyone had to prefer a traditional lifestyle. A lot of it has to do with worldview. There are plenty of men who have a good upbringing and know from experience the satisfaction that there is in being a part of a solid family structure. Being a dad or a mom in a traditional marriage is hard work. My single life is much easier and more comfortable since my entire income and time is spent primarily on myself.. any generosity beyond that is optional. But given the opportunity, I would s…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/24 07:09 PM
1	Most relationships end because men take advantage of their partner and stop putting in effort. I’m not really sure how you got that from my post. Look, we can all have our stances on dating. I live in traditional world where there are ladies and gentlemen, and I act every part of the lady in the way that I present and conduct myself. If someone is going to have kids with me, I first have to make sure he is capable of planning, organization, thoughtfulness. Before using dating apps up to my first dating app relationship, all the guys generally knew how to do that and didn’t act like being …	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/24 01:04 PM
1	Most relationships end because men take advantage of their partner and stop putting in effort. Haha that’s ridiculous. I’ve done all sorts of nice/thoughtful things for guys I dated. All I can think is that these must be very fake “instagram girls” with bad attitudes. Your friends aren’t dating wholesome women it sounds like. But the last two guys I’ve dated at length weren’t as thoughtful to plan dates and definitely didn’t compare to the level of consideration or organization that I was used to.. especially the last one. He made a point out of seeing how inconsiderate he could be and st…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/24 01:38 AM
1	Most relationships end because men take advantage of their partner and stop putting in effort. Chasing a woman when you don’t know if she will reject you is emotionally risky. Putting together a thoughtful surprise like a bouquet of flowers, tickets to a favorite event, spa day, etc.. whatever thoughtful gesture you know they will enjoy.. that’s just a win win when it’s your S.O. They feel good, and you feel just as good. They are your established partner. They are not going to reject you, obviously. You’re just adding to the positive emotions associated with your relationship. Every kind…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/04/24 11:14 PM
–	Red Pillers of Reddit, how often do you think a man should say 'I love you' to his girlfriend/wife, and how often should he say romantic things to her? Telling someone they can pick between two expressions of love but not have both is abusive. A loving partner would do both, HAPPILY.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/04/24 11:07 PM
1	Most relationships end because men take advantage of their partner and stop putting in effort. Chasing is the early phase where one partner’s efforts significantly outweigh the others (usually man chasing). Both partners putting in concerted effort to do nice/thoughtful/romantic things during an established relationship is not chasing, it’s maintenance. Maintenance is a universal thing. Knowledge, skills, cars, computers, platonic friendships, romantic relationships all require maintenance, or they will not stay equally strong, instead they will become weaker.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/04/24 11:05 PM
–	Red Pillers of Reddit, how often do you think a man should say 'I love you' to his girlfriend/wife, and how often should he say romantic things to her? He’s just explaining how he emotionally manipulates and abuses his partner 🤫 classic Redpiller move!	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/04/24 04:33 AM
–	Most relationships end because men take advantage of their partner and stop putting in effort. I love the way you worded that👏🏻 Broke it off with the last guy I dated because of that very thing. We dated for a total of five months with a break in the middle. He never planned dates, never texted me good morning/thinking of you stuff, basically never did anything that required any planning or thoughtfulness, just spur of the moment stuff. The last date, I planned dinner. We were supposed to cook it together. He showed up 2 hours late, I was basically done cooking on my own. He drank all the…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/04/24 04:24 AM
–	Most relationships end because men take advantage of their partner and stop putting in effort. Lol, such a patronizing last sentence. No one but people in this sub make such rash claims about the way all men/women think. Just exposing their own thought process, unable to see how anyone could think differently. We see y’all with that low EQ	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/04/24 04:04 AM
–	Most relationships end because men take advantage of their partner and stop putting in effort. Since when does peace = zero effort in a relationship? My understanding was that peace was the absence of fighting, not the absence of romance	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/04/24 03:46 AM
6	Why the traditional way was better for both genders What the.. 🤣 my mental health and relationship angst was by far worst at 19-22ish. Being 31 and single is great. Life is established, have a great career that’s fun and full of human interest, travel when I want, live how I want, pack up at a moment’s notice… it’s awesome. I was just anxious about being single in my early 20s because of church norms and peer pressure. Then I realized most married people are stressed, a good percent have marital issues or just simply aren’t well suited, etc. I lo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/04/24 03:37 AM
10	Why do redpillers say a woman is solipsistic for looking for a man with stable career but do something similar? Redpill is simply the way a straight male narcissist would naturally approach and evaluate women. That’s all it is.	/r/ExRedPill	14/04/24 12:47 AM
1	CMV: Luck is everything. Some men are just by default undesirable and there is no underlyting reason why Negative chance isn’t a thing. You really can’t say how getting mentally and physically healthy will result, but it certainly won’t be worse overall. But if you come in with unrealistic expectations, yeah you may be disappointed. Personally I miss the days when people did the right thing just because it was the right thing to do. Not, okay where is my cookie for turning in my homework on time. There will always be an inevitably element of chance and unfairness in life. But the people who general…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/04/24 04:37 PM
1	Debate: the problem with the dating market is women’s standards are too high Oh I mean I think that’s just a fact, right? None of us can control exactly when we meet the right person. It’s a random as who else is around you, who you sit next to on a bus/plane, class you sign up for, etc. Meeting any one person is extremely statistically unlikely. I just met 3 people in my apartment that I would never have met if I wasn’t randomly sitting in the common area studying which I almost never do. That’s what I’m talking about.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/04/24 12:35 AM
1	Debate: the problem with the dating market is women’s standards are too high Huh? I don’t understand what you’re referring to.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/04/24 12:23 AM
1	CMV: Luck is everything. Some men are just by default undesirable and there is no underlyting reason why Your balanced, not-at-all-extreme opinion has been noted 🫡	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/04/24 11:56 PM
1	Debate: the problem with the dating market is women’s standards are too high Well it sounds like you have a good personality and it’s just a matter of meeting the right person. I think sometimes people extrapolate their lack of success to mean that this is as good as it gets for them. Honestly, it might just be a matter of not yet crossing paths with the person who is going to love you. Every person can know if at their core they possess the attitudes/habits that are conducive to positive relationships. And if you do, it’s just a matter of time and luck to find the perso…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/04/24 11:52 PM
–	Debate: the problem with the dating market is women’s standards are too high Sure, but that wasn't my point. It's that women value people that make them laugh and feel good, even if the package doesn't look like a model. I've met lots of people who make me feel the way I'm talking about, so what I'm talking about isn't shockingly rare. I would MUCH rather date a man with average looks/dad bod who makes me feel fantastic and loved than a model-looking, salty, neurotic, gym bro dude who wants to talk about conspiracy theories and rant about stuff that makes him mad.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/04/24 11:34 PM
1	CMV: Luck is everything. Some men are just by default undesirable and there is no underlyting reason why This is how the world appears to men who can't see their own flaws and undesirable traits, or what behavior of them leads to the results they get. It's affecting most niceguys, who cannot for the life of them understand why no woman they want wants them as well, despite being such good guys. This is it, exactly. Well said.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/04/24 10:43 PM
2	CMV: Luck is everything. Some men are just by default undesirable and there is no underlyting reason why The issue is that the majority of women are toxic - they are shallow, vacuous, hypocritical, selfish, narcissistic, greedy, and cruel; You've not met anything close to a representative sample of all women. Of course the average person is not toxic. The average person has a normal amount of personality flaws, and that applies to men and women. Are you referring to the particular women you've met on dating apps? That's not a representative sample of all women. But if you believe that good women ar…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/04/24 10:42 PM
2	CMV: Luck is everything. Some men are just by default undesirable and there is no underlyting reason why Totally agree with your first sentence! When a guy meets a girl he thinks is really solid, then it does make sense to pursue her in a directed way. But just generally slobbering after bunches of women all at once in a nonspecific way is a poor use of time.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/04/24 10:35 PM
1	CMV: Luck is everything. Some men are just by default undesirable and there is no underlyting reason why Getting physically and mentally healthy carries all sorts of benefits in life even if you don't find love. If you want to play video games, smoke weed, and be on the internet most of the time, that's your choice, but don't complain about it. Many people who make these hopeless posts need therapy to correct their dysfunctional, defeatist thinking patterns. It's giving depression.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/04/24 10:31 PM
1	Why does society only entertain the idea of choice when it's comes to women?? It has become clear that you have no case.. which has been apparent to me from the start. Glad we could have this discussion! And very glad to see the positive movement in our country as many are waking up to the viewpoint I attempted to share with you.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/04/24 08:46 PM
1	Why does society only entertain the idea of choice when it's comes to women?? Mm yeah. We don’t leave it up to parents whether or not to murder their 2 year old. We absolutely legislate morality on all sorts of issues. And there’s no difference between an 8 month old fetus and a preemie born at 30 weeks in the NICU that should protect one but not the other. You simply don’t respect unborn human life. That’s your problem. It is no way makes a case for your position. You just repeat the same thing over and over again without specifying why a preemie deserves protection and …	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/04/24 08:15 PM
1	Why does society only entertain the idea of choice when it's comes to women?? I don’t have attachments around blastocysts, which is why I don’t have an issue with plan B or IUDs. Those things will never stop a beating heart or even close to it. If you’d kill every 24+ week plus fetus with the push of a button, you’re a sick puppy alright. I had a 16 year old patient come in with a surprise pregnancy, deliver at 26 weeks and the baby survived after months in the NICU. Yet you’d gladly kill babies that are older and more developed than that. I can’t help you. You’re morally…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/04/24 07:50 PM
4	Debate: the problem with the dating market is women’s standards are too high “I’m a Chad.” Sir, this is a Wendy’s.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/04/24 07:38 PM
1	Why does society only entertain the idea of choice when it's comes to women?? I don’t put more weight on the fetuses life than the mothers life. That would mean saying stuff like the mother should die to allow the fetus to live (doesn’t make much sense, and there probably aren’t very many scenarios where this would even be possible). If the pregnancy is threatening the mothers life, then, between the two lives the mothers life is prioritized, and the baby should be delivered, even if it is too young to survive. The mothers freedom of will/convenience is not more important…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/04/24 06:35 PM
2	Debate: the problem with the dating market is women’s standards are too high I am admittedly picky, I said that. When I was dating on apps I swiped left on vast majority of guys. Nothing I’ve said about my preferences was a lie. I have nothing to gain by that anyway. My point is that the men I have liked, while not ugly by my standards, may have been ugly/unappealing by other people’s standards. As another case in point, my old roommate and I used to sometimes swipe together and/or compare likes. She often was surprised at who I had swiped right on, while I did not find …	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/04/24 06:26 PM
-1	The Big Difference of Aging between Men vs Women is... 18-40 is a range that encompasses all sorts of age gap relationships between men in their 30s and woman on the younger end of the range.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/04/24 11:11 AM
3	Debate: the problem with the dating market is women’s standards are too high No, that’s what I’m saying. Some women are attracted to nerdy guys who look like nerdy guys, skinny with glasses. My 3 year college crush who rejected me is a bald aerospace engineer with scoliosis and no visible muscle tone. He’s still single in his 30s btw. I guarantee you you would be surprised by the type of guys I’ve gone for.. or at least the wide range of physical appearances. And I’m extremely picky, but the pickiness pertains to the whole package. I’ve actually fallen in love with peopl…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/04/24 11:00 AM
–	Debate: the problem with the dating market is women’s standards are too high I really don’t know what your point is. I’m not virtue signaling. I’m simply giving an n of 1 as a woman who doesn’t date “chadly” men. Not all women like guys who look like fraternity bros. There’s a wide spectrum and some women like nerdy guys etc. Yes, there are not many women who want to date men who are unattractive and have bad personalities or social skills. People with good personalities are underrepresented on dating apps but not “rare” per se. My point is that personality is attractive…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/04/24 10:18 AM
1	Why does society only entertain the idea of choice when it's comes to women?? If you show me why my moral beliefs are wrong and yours are right, I’ll reconsider. As it is, I simply believe murder of a human being with any degree of sentience is wrong. And by sentience I mean old enough to have electrical brain activity and differentiated body parts. I’m not saying abortion before that is de facto right or wrong, but I am asserting that abortion at and beyond that point is inhumane. You don’t believe preborn babies have rights, but I doubt you can clearly articulate why yo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/04/24 10:08 AM
–	Debate: the problem with the dating market is women’s standards are too high I loved your passionate rant 😂 and yes!! Jack Black in the Holiday (one of my all time favorite soundtracks and a good movie too) can totally get it! Haha. He has such good energy and is handsome in his own way. Attractiveness is way more subjective in my experience as a woman. I’ve also had the weird experience of getting crushes in guys I initially had no interest in even years after meeting them after getting to know their personality more. It’s the whole picture, and a good personality/how a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/04/24 09:41 AM
–	Debate: the problem with the dating market is women’s standards are too high Jack Black is so dateable. He has the best energy and is cute in a non traditional way. I would date a guy like him if I met him in real life and he was a regular person. Literally having good/confident energy, a great smile, making a person’s day, having no hateful beliefs, and not being straight ugly are the main criteria. I’ve fallen for all sorts of different looking guys, short/stocky/tall/skinny and different races too.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/04/24 09:37 AM
1	Why does society only entertain the idea of choice when it's comes to women?? I was tracking with you right up until the last paragraph. How many times are you going to cite your claim of “the majority view is right” in this argument? That’s literally a logical fallacy (“ad populum fallacy”). I just… am happy to discuss ethics/the abortion issue with anyone but feel like you just don’t get it. How is this convincing to you? Why can’t you just talk about why you believe abortion is justified without citing what other people believe?	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/04/24 09:30 AM
–	Debate: the problem with the dating market is women’s standards are too high Exactly! I was actually referring to the subset of people who are no go’s for nearly everyone, but for any specific person, there are still only a small pool of people that meet their ideas of attractive and click in a relationship sense.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/04/24 07:12 AM
–	Debate: the problem with the dating market is women’s standards are too high I’m going to make a point that you can choose to acknowledge or not: there are some men (and women) whose personality and general presence is such that being around them is a net negative. They are negative, bitter, boring, very unattractive physically, mentally unstable, or some combination of these or other similar negative traits. Being single is better than being partnered with these people. Full stop. So in a society where people CAN live stable single lives, they will do that, rather than …	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/04/24 06:20 AM
–	You're all wrong. People on this sub seem disproportionately focused on fighting for advantages for their sex like it’s a team. I’m a woman, but I’m never going to support the right of adult women to terminate healthy pregnancies that resulted from consensual sex. Sorry if that offends you. I care about women’s rights, men’s rights, AND unborn babies’ rights. I’m not going to advocate for “my group” to have the freedom to rob another group of their rights, much less their lives. Might doesn’t make right, even if …	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/04/24 10:39 PM
2	Low value woman vs High value woman Yeah, I’m starting to think some of the toxic manosphere beliefs are just a result of men getting rejected by these type of women. They like these type of women because they see women as purely objects, nothing else matters, so they go for peak physique/attractiveness. But then, these only fans type girls reject them, so now they both hate this particular type of woman and also find her sexy. Hardcore redpill men don’t see women as people. They are just objects, and hot young women are apparentl…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/04/24 06:22 PM
1	Why does society only entertain the idea of choice when it's comes to women?? “Don’t murder” is hardly an exclusively fundamentalist value. It’s a general moral principle throughout human societies with few exceptions. I am being consistent in saying that murder is wrong. You are the one making a claim that murder is sometimes acceptable (when it comes to humans still in utero). Really, the burden of proof is on you to say why you feel that snuffing out human life is justified. You really haven’t made an argument as to why a woman with a healthy unwanted pregnancy should …	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/04/24 06:09 PM
9	Makeup is basically a mask and it reflects women's insecurity. Light makeup is normally and socially required. It is considered unprofessional not to wear at least some light makeup as a woman. So that’s really just standard. Just cleans up the eye bags and makes you look a little brighter. Not sure why it’s such a focus. Assume every woman you see is wearing at least light makeup, and doing so because it’s what is societally accepted. I promise you I think far less about makeup than men on redpill forums.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/04/24 11:02 AM
1	Why does society only entertain the idea of choice when it's comes to women?? Dude. I’ve clearly articulated my position, which I am by no means even remotely alone in. All you keep doing is saying “of course I’m right. Everyone thinks what I think so obviously I’m right.” Which, while being a significant exaggeration, is just lazy reasoning. You should be able to articulate why you think what you think completely independently without even invoking majority opinion. Maybe you’ve grappled deeply with this issue but it doesn’t come across that way in your reply at all. You…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/04/24 10:43 AM
1	Why does society only entertain the idea of choice when it's comes to women?? Good on the US. Why should a woman with a healthy pregnancy have the option to abort her child? She can give it for adoption if she does not feel able or willing to raise it. An adult’s life is more important than a fetus’s life, but an adult’s convenience/preference is not more important than a fetus’s life. You put such stock in modern values. Yes, plenty of people are selfish and make absolutely horrible decisions with no one in mind but themselves and their immediate satisfaction. That’s wha…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/04/24 09:59 AM
1	Why does society only entertain the idea of choice when it's comes to women?? I don’t think you understand the map. That’s current legal status of abortion by country. Nothing on the map pertains to the past or gives any synopsis of global stances on abortion over time. I never invoke “everyone does/thinks this” as a primary argument for why anything is right or wrong. You were the one who started that weak line of reasoning, and I’m simply going with that and pointing out that if you look at a larger time scale, you won’t see abortion being green lighted all throughout t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/04/24 09:01 AM
1	How does the average woman feel about sex? This question, I swear 🤣	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/04/24 09:54 PM
1	How does the average woman feel about sex? I feel like this is probably just a redpill theory. Very difficult to prove, but encourages men to think all women are hoes even if they say they aren’t.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/04/24 09:53 PM
3	What is a unicorn woman? Well, you just advised every man not to date me because my dad passed away when I was in elementary school. So yes, it does hurt when someone broadcasts the idea that you are worthless as a partner for that one reason. It’s not true, and you are wrong in that belief, but it’s still personally hurtful.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/04/24 08:38 PM
3	What is a unicorn woman? I can tell your opinions are based on a few bad experiences that you are generalizing. It’s a big world out there and better to take each situation case by case. But apparently you’re already married, so kinda strange that you still feel the need to recommend your personal biases to others.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/04/24 08:21 PM
4	What is a unicorn woman? I just judge people based on what they have done with their circumstances, on an individual level. Interesting that by your criteria, an alcoholic or drug addict with a loving family is dateable, and someone whose parent died tragically is not, even if they live a successful and well adjusted life. It doesn’t ultimately matter because I’m not trying to date you, but it’s weird that it’s such a foremost criteria for you, above other things that would be way bigger issues imo. No one should date s…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/04/24 07:58 PM
6	What is a unicorn woman? Present father is one of your top two criteria? A good person doesn’t become a bad person just because their dad passes away at a young age, like mine did. I’m thankful the men I’ve dated have valued me for the person I am and not judged me for things I have no control over.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/04/24 06:20 PM
1	Why does society only entertain the idea of choice when it's comes to women?? No, in the grand scheme of things people understood that unborn babies are just small humans, and killing a tiny human with a beating heart and a nervous system is a really messed up thing to do. Selfishness has blinded a lot of people in modern individualistic societies like the US, making them think it’s reasonable to kill an unborn child simply for their own convenience. It’s really shocking how lost you and others who support elective abortion are.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/04/24 04:29 PM
–	Why does society only entertain the idea of choice when it's comes to women?? No, actually people are waking up to the depravity of abortion, and the progression of thought is again swinging back towards recognizing that murder is in fact, wrong. Thankfully, I practice medicine in a state that bans unnecessary/elective terminations, so that I can in fact “do no harm” and am never asked to assist a woman in choosing to terminate a viable, healthy pregnancy. Where the pendulum is at is no concern of mine. I simply respect the dignity of human life, which involves first and …	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/04/24 09:42 AM
–	Why does society only entertain the idea of choice when it's comes to women?? Well not exclusively, but the baby’s well being and interests are a close 3rd behind the parents and can’t simply be vetoed because the parents don’t feel like stepping up to the plate. The baby’s best interests are being protected and loved by 2 parents. If you can’t have the decency to provide that, you better at least have the decency to get it through gestation and give it to a family who wants to raise it. The fact that anybody could advocate killing the baby as a solution is disgusting. In…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/04/24 09:17 AM
–	Why does society only entertain the idea of choice when it's comes to women?? Whether the law matches up with reality, or whether the law treats unborn with the appropriate respect, is a separate issue from our discussion at hand. Fortunately, the law is changing. Where I live, unborn fetuses are protected, as they should be. Being pregnant does not give a person the automatic right to terminate. There’s nothing natural or innate about the idea that a woman should kill her unborn baby, you’re just pulling that notion out of your ass. Don’t like murder? Don’t commit murder…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/04/24 10:17 PM
–	Why does society only entertain the idea of choice when it's comes to women?? Definitely! Maybe not completely free but very affordable/sliding scale. I don’t support irresponsible procreation.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/04/24 09:48 PM
–	Why does society only entertain the idea of choice when it's comes to women?? Pregnant women are a target for domestic violence, since the deadbeat thinks “if I kill her I won’t have to deal with being a dad.” So yes, reducing the number of pregnancies will reduce maternal deaths. But committing an abortion and murdering a baby just in the off chance that the mother may be a future victim of DV is illogical. We need to educate women on DV awareness and resources, rather than piling abortion trauma onto what is clearly already a dysfunctional and harmful relationship. The …	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/04/24 09:35 PM
–	Why does society only entertain the idea of choice when it's comes to women?? ”let’s murder babies before they are born so they can’t be abused.” 🤡 nope, perfectly fine sticking with other solutions to the problem of abuse, other than murder.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/04/24 08:47 PM
–	Why does society only entertain the idea of choice when it's comes to women?? You just made a comment in favor of abortion and said it was fair to the man and woman. Pick a lane	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/04/24 08:27 PM
–	Why does society only entertain the idea of choice when it's comes to women?? Nope. We can debate about clump of cell, non humanoid looking embryos without organs. But once there is cardiac activity and CNS development several weeks into pregnancy, abortion is unconscionable. The ONLY reason a 10 week or older baby should be delivered/surgically removed would be if the pregnancy is posing an immediate risk to the life of the mother such as preeclampsia or ectopic. If a doctor says it needs to happen medically, fine. Elective after 8-10 week range? Absolutely not.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/04/24 08:24 PM
–	Why does society only entertain the idea of choice when it's comes to women?? I think what he means is that the baby’s body happens to be inside the mother’s body, but it is not the same thing as the mother’s body. And he is correct.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/04/24 08:19 PM
–	Why does society only entertain the idea of choice when it's comes to women?? Not fair for the baby, lol	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/04/24 08:17 PM
–	Why does society only entertain the idea of choice when it's comes to women?? Men and women both have the freedom to not be parents, by not having sex. That’s equal. Men and women who gamble on pregnancy by having sex have no right to complain when a baby is conceived. They knew the odds (depending on which if any birth control), gambled, and got pregnant. That’s equal. A baby should not be killed simply because parents don’t want to take care of it. Fortunately, abortion bans are becoming more common. That’s good. Therefore, no parent, mother or father, should have the r…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/04/24 07:32 PM
1	Women are objectively cuter. Men and women have equal amounts of symmetry.. do you even know what that word means? When an individual has a crooked face, etc, that’s asymmetry and generally less attractive. But women and men can both be very symmetric. A default male body and female body are externally completely symmetric, aside from men having one testicle that typically hangs lower. I can’t think of anything that is by default asymmetric on the female body.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/04/24 06:36 PM
0	Women have become increasingly emboldened by our gynocentric society and more often than not are rude and disrespectful for no reason even when you are not hitting on them Yep 👍🏻	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/04/24 02:38 PM
-2	Women have become increasingly emboldened by our gynocentric society and more often than not are rude and disrespectful for no reason even when you are not hitting on them Uh oh, he’s doing it again 😂 I commented in semi good faith before reading the other comments about how you’re an established troll. I’ve been on here long enough that being insulted by trolls has no effect on me. Btw, if you want the insult to hurt, it has to be plausible. When you start reaching too hard and saying ridiculous stuff it ends up being more laughable than anything. Better luck next time? Lol	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/04/24 02:32 PM
0	Women have become increasingly emboldened by our gynocentric society and more often than not are rude and disrespectful for no reason even when you are not hitting on them This is such a passive aggressive comment, lol. Gotta love the digs that aren’t based on facts: “guessing you’re bitter from being rejected,” “guessing you’re ugly bc you haven’t commented on your looks”… nah man, just you jumping to the worst conclusions about a Reddit stranger. Not a good look for you either.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/04/24 08:51 AM
–	Man sues 27 women in an 'Are We Dating the Same Guy' Facebook group I was clear about the boundaries and motivations of what I consider to be acceptable. It’s not just that I consider that acceptable, it’s that society says certain things are legit and other things are not. If men want to share inappropriate things that cross the line, they will. If women want to share inappropriate things that cross the line, they will. But the vast majority of posts I’ve seen are just reporting guys being shitty and are fair. No issue with men’s groups being used similarly. If…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/04/24 09:41 PM
–	Man sues 27 women in an 'Are We Dating the Same Guy' Facebook group Never seen a post where a woman called a man abusive for not texting back fast enough. However, there are some posts where women will complain about some thing a man did, and the other women will say that she is making a mountain out of a mole hill. Unless someone is flat out lying about what you did, it shouldn’t be a problem. That said, I don’t endorse sharing explicit details about other peoples sex lives. Exception would be, if someone didn’t disclose a positive herpes or HIV status, for exa…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/04/24 08:34 PM
–	Man sues 27 women in an 'Are We Dating the Same Guy' Facebook group I don’t advocate that, in either direction. But I think it’s fine to share that someone was a cheater, abusive, raped/pressured you to be physical, lied, was in multiple relationships without being upfront, etc. Any negative/abusive behavior, screenshots of unhinged initial messages off of dating apps, etc. I’m no longer online dating, but am in the group and occasionally see posts. That’s essentially what 90% of them are. I’ve never seen any discussions of the sort you’re describing.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/04/24 08:09 PM
–	Man sues 27 women in an 'Are We Dating the Same Guy' Facebook group The group you’re referring to doesn’t disseminate revenge porn. I’m all for the men’s and women’s equivalents of these “gossip” groups. It helps make up for the lack of social vetting that used to be there when dating from within a group of acquaintances.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/04/24 07:46 PM
–	Man sues 27 women in an 'Are We Dating the Same Guy' Facebook group Dude. I have zero problem with men having a group to share experiences with red flag/problematic women. Is it possible someone could make up lies and a percentage of these posts are just salty ex partners? Of course. That’s life. But the general purpose - exposing liars and badly behaved men - is completely legit. I’m comfortable with the reverse because I know I’m not a badly behaved woman, nor do I date so many people so indiscriminately that I need to worry about a loose cannon making up lies…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/04/24 07:43 PM
2	Post-Wall women who date previously looked over men will never be able to prove they love these men. 😂	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/04/24 08:47 PM
0	Post-Wall women who date previously looked over men will never be able to prove they love these men. Let me refer you to the original comment: Older men who date younger women will never be able to prove to them that they love these women "for who they are" and not for being younger. This whole conversation is about people being appreciated for their souls and personality, not their bodies, money, or other physical/material attributes. You are the one who is off topic. Very interesting that you told me not to insult you, then proceed to attempt to insult me for what… participating in Reddit dis…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/04/24 08:40 PM
1	Post-Wall women who date previously looked over men will never be able to prove they love these men. The quote was not “what they are” but “who they are.” Bit of a Freudian slip on your part that you refer to women as what, rather than who. And no, calling you out on being pedantic is not ad hominem.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/04/24 06:23 PM
6	Post-Wall women who date previously looked over men will never be able to prove they love these men. It’s what their body is at present, not one of their permanent person personality features. Don’t be obtuse.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/04/24 05:24 PM
2	Post-Wall women who date previously looked over men will never be able to prove they love these men. You prefer your theories to the actual lived experience of a woman with no end goal other than to help men on the internet who have chosen a dark path. It’s the same reason I enjoy helping people by working in medicine, I truly enjoy fixing things. But people who respond as you did are a slap in the face to the effort and empathy anyone puts in to help you. I’m not believing a theory, I’m telling you my experience of being a woman and friend/confidant of many other women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/04/24 05:04 PM
1	Post-Wall women who date previously looked over men will never be able to prove they love these men. Believe what you want	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/04/24 03:34 PM
3	Post-Wall women who date previously looked over men will never be able to prove they love these men. I am not sure exactly what you mean - that you cannot feel love towards another person? Or that you are incapable of receiving love from another person? Or that you do not believe another person will ever have love for you, and thus you will never have an opportunity to receive it?	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/04/24 07:58 AM
5	Post-Wall women who date previously looked over men will never be able to prove they love these men. Clearly you are set on believing what you already believe. If you believe love doesn’t exist, then yes, you can be sure you will never find love. Believing in love isn’t a guarantee of finding it, but it is an essential ingredient in the process.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/04/24 07:45 AM
3	Post-Wall women who date previously looked over men will never be able to prove they love these men. Well I disagree that you can’t be loved by any woman who is a similar attractiveness level and age as you. There is someone for everyone. But no, if you are struggling in dating, the solution is not to reach for people who are more out of your league, it’s to be realistic about your own attractiveness and not demand to date someone better looking than you or otherwise more of a catch than you. If you insist on that, and want to win those people to you on the basis of your wallet, it’s just a glo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/04/24 07:23 AM
1	Splitting the bill is not about money, it is about balance of interest We don’t live in a vacuum of your idealism. Men and women aren’t the same. Societal norms are that if the man doesn’t pick up the check, he has poor manners and doesn’t care what she thinks of him. Certainly, if 98% of men pay for their dates without a second thought, you not doing so stands out in a bad way as stingy. The reverse simply is not true for women. Paying for the date is not something the woman does, even when she really likes the guy. She could, but it would be emasculating for most…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/04/24 07:05 AM
8	Post-Wall women who date previously looked over men will never be able to prove they love these men. Not you again, lol. I made no arguments that depended on an assumption about OP’s mental health. I did make a stand alone observation about OP’s mental health after looking through his post history. My reasons for disagreeing with him can be found elsewhere :)	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/04/24 06:42 AM
6	Post-Wall women who date previously looked over men will never be able to prove they love these men. Ikr. I’ve dated from 1 year younger to four years older over all my relationships. Who are these women? And why do men act like “she overlooked me when I was young.. now I’m gonna reject her now that she’s old.” Dude, I’ve been dating guys within 4 years of my age this whole time.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/04/24 06:40 AM
7	Post-Wall women who date previously looked over men will never be able to prove they love these men. Well yes, I’m a pragmatic person. I disagree with learned helplessness and people who refuse to grow or take action to better their lives. You are welcome to believe whatever delusion you choose, but stating your beliefs does not prove anything, so unfortunately if that was your goal in this post it was not successful.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/04/24 06:33 AM
5	Post-Wall women who date previously looked over men will never be able to prove they love these men. Lol, clearly you have no experience in emergency medicine. Psych is a huge percentage of what I see. Only Level I trauma centers deal with gunshot wounds regularly. My hospital almost never gets GSWs. I’m not diagnosing you with anything. I am saying that normal people don’t think or communicate the kind of ideas you’re espousing on Reddit. It’s giving antisocial vibes.. which is most common with autism spectrum and psychopathy (a personality disorder).	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/04/24 06:07 AM
13	Post-Wall women who date previously looked over men will never be able to prove they love these men. So, despite your earlier vocal protestations, you actually would prefer to date a woman who is 14-18 years younger than you. I genuinely can’t think of a reason why anyone in that age range would have anything in common with a 36 year old or love him. The girls who do the sugar daddy type relationships generally have issues. Not to mention.. they DEFINITELY don’t love you. Hilarious that your solution to “I’m afraid women are settling for me” is to aim for women so young and unrelatable to you t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/04/24 06:01 AM
9	Post-Wall women who date previously looked over men will never be able to prove they love these men. I’m an ER PA. I function in the same role as a junior doctor, making diagnoses, prescribing medications and working independently, but I have a doctor as my direct supervisor. A woman, when she turns a certain age, does not magically start dating men she would never have considered before. If a guy repulsed me at 20, I’m not going to like him any more at 30. I may have matured and realized what I am looking for, but that doesn’t mean dating people I’m not attracted to. So yes, if I agree to be i…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/04/24 05:44 AM
6	Post-Wall women who date previously looked over men will never be able to prove they love these men. Are you saying that’s the age you have as preferred in your dating apps? 18-29? Of are you still being cryptic and vague as though you are some megamind puzzle creator creating logical pitfalls for me to escape and thus prove myself? I’m done with this ish 🤣	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/04/24 05:38 AM
6	Post-Wall women who date previously looked over men will never be able to prove they love these men. What I’m saying is.. and I’ve taken stats but don’t recall the precise lingo.. the trend of being less attracted to progressive boyfriends is just a theory. I think they say “the confidence interval crosses 1.” I.e., we cannot, with 95% certainty, say that this apparent data relationship is actually statistically significant and not just random variation in the data. I doubt this whole thing of AF/BB is actually true, it’s just redpill dogma.. or only relevant to a few atypical/low class women. …	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/04/24 05:33 AM
8	Post-Wall women who date previously looked over men will never be able to prove they love these men. You said you’re in your late 30s and won’t date a woman who is in her 30s. You’re being weird and vague, so if you want me to accurately understand you then don’t be vague. It truly has no bearing on me what age range you plug into tinder. It doesn’t even sound like you’re actively having relationships from your post history so this is all theoretical.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/04/24 05:19 AM
11	Post-Wall women who date previously looked over men will never be able to prove they love these men. I’ve never dated a man that I previously rejected. That’s not a thing. Each person you date (minus an ex) is meeting you and dating you for the first time. Also, your post history is extremely disturbing. Genuinely, and I say this through the lens of being a healthcare provider, it sounds like you have neurodivergence or a mental health condition. It’s not normal to despise human interaction, seek out video games where you can emotionally harm others, etc. You have a lot of darkness in your soul…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/04/24 05:11 AM
5	Post-Wall women who date previously looked over men will never be able to prove they love these men. And that’s exactly my point, you aren’t dating “all women.” There is so much variation in a single person’s life that you could not possibly say each of her boyfriends are a sequential downstep. For example, my 24 yo relationship was great and I loved him but he was kind of closeted gay and in a Christian cult. Hard breakup. 27 yo relationship, hot Asian chiropractor, kinda short, not much emotional chemistry, didn’t even cry about it when we broke up. 29 yo relationship, loved him, would have m…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/04/24 05:09 AM
18	Post-Wall women who date previously looked over men will never be able to prove they love these men. You’re in your late 30s and your preferred dating range is 18-24? You won’t be attracting well adjusted girls who are literally young enough to be your offspring. 10 year age gap is bad enough, but 20? Yikes	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/04/24 04:47 AM
22	Post-Wall women who date previously looked over men will never be able to prove they love these men. How old are you? And why are you seemingly implying you’re offended by being approached by women who are around your age? If you have a problem with women who are your age, or beyond that “not younger enough,” that is you having an issue, not the woman’s issue for approaching you.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/04/24 04:23 AM
10	Post-Wall women who date previously looked over men will never be able to prove they love these men. Dude I’ve had like 3 boyfriends. That’s not nearly enough to generalize a trend line. Maybe on a population level, good people get snatched up sooner or whatever, but there’s no truth to this thing on an individual level. I’ve always been attracted to the same type of traits which mainly come down to masculine/good personality. I’m not aiming for different things as I age. Sure I won’t date a guy who’s broke, but that’s because I’m not broke and prefer similar financial status in my partner. it’…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/04/24 04:16 AM
12	Post-Wall women who date previously looked over men will never be able to prove they love these men. Well I’m a 31 year old virgin (by choice) so yeah, I’d say my husband will get something other men didn’t. When you’re a strong willed person with firmly held beliefs in less common combinations sometimes it’s hard to meet a person whose beliefs mesh with yours, at least in a forever/marriage sense. But I’ve never had an issue with the men I’ve dated not finding me attractive/interesting, and that’s including my “post wall” years. What a strange terminology. I see people who get unattractive at …	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/04/24 03:57 AM
-1	Splitting the bill is not about money, it is about balance of interest If he’s interested in me, he will want to pay. It’s that simple. Still never had a man not grab the tab immediately or allow me to pay when I offered. If you don’t want to pay for the woman’s meal, you aren’t truly that interested and don’t care about impressing her. Why would that be a good relationship for you or her? And yes, you can afford to date if you are only dating seriously. Limit dates to only the person you are legitimately interested in, and only places that are within your budget. …	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/04/24 02:25 AM
1	Men who regularly do the dumping are high value. Also, there is a massive difference between a guy dumping a girl who has been abusive or cheated on him, and a dumper in a relationship that has to end for lack of compatibility/no spark/etc. It can be relieving to have the dignity to walk away when you are not being treated well. It’s another thing entirely to say, “damn, feels great being able to dump my loyal girlfriend. I don’t feel the least bit bad knowing that I broke her heart. In fact it really gasses me up knowing that I’m such a hot c…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/04/24 09:46 PM
2	Men who regularly do the dumping are high value. Many people in this sub ended up here because they hate women. Maybe because of bad past experiences. They may or may not be conscious of this being the driving factor for them ending up here.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/04/24 09:31 PM
3	Men who regularly do the dumping are high value. “I have a deep seated resentment and anger towards women in general. Any situation in which I have the opportunity to reject, dump, insult, or otherwise make a woman feel badly is a net positive for my ego.” -OP See also, narcissist playbook: “there are 2 ways for me to feel better about myself - getting admiration for myself to boost my image and insulting/shaming others to make myself feel better my comparison.” Get help, OP.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/04/24 09:29 PM
1	The way women test their Lover's love is so wrong You sound troubled. You hate feminists and hate the thought of being drafted, but feminists have nothing to do with you getting drafted. That’s a decision men made.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/24 07:15 PM
1	The way women test their Lover's love is so wrong Men came up with idea of the draft, not women. They didn’t include women because women have different physical makeup and aren’t as suited to war. That’s obvious. Women who are ripped to the point of being as strong as the average man are quite rare. They lack the testosterone levels to get jacked from boot camp/basic training the same way a man would. On average, women are too weak/out of shape to be useful in combat. Feminists didn’t come up with the idea of the draft. They have nothing to do …	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/24 06:55 PM
1	The way women test their Lover's love is so wrong It’s not possible to have a conversation with someone who just changes the topic every time they say something. You changed to topic to “ethics of military drafting” when the original topic was “feminists discriminate against short men.” Like bro, please try to rein in the adhd	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/24 06:14 PM
1	The way women test their Lover's love is so wrong So let me get this straight. Men of all heights are eligible for military service in your country, and you’re unhappy about that? I thought you wanted to be treated the same as others regardless of height. Now you’re saying you want to be treated differently. No disrespect, but you are all over the place and even contradicting yourself	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/24 05:57 PM
1	The way women test their Lover's love is so wrong Just curious in what way you mean? For jobs, better looking people have a hiring advantage. Better looking people are also more likely to be treated better in social interactions. That’s not a specific male thing	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/24 05:03 PM
1	The way women test their Lover's love is so wrong Haha. If you mean like for dating, most women date men who are taller than them. But I have nothing against shorter men as people	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/24 04:42 PM
5	The way women test their Lover's love is so wrong You seem confused. Feminism is just a word. People who support women’s rights are on a spectrum from reasonable to unreasonable. Any and all of them may use “feminism” (the word) to describe themselves. The flair in question means that this individual sees men and women as equal (egalitarian) while also being staunchly in support of women’s rights. In essence, pro women, but not anti men. You are seeming to think that the word “feminism” can only be used by/about people who are anti-men. That’s …	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/03/24 07:06 PM
2	Why should women take advice from people who loathe them? Yeah I had an older coworker who’d been military in the Balkans warn me to keep my eyes open but it seemed good at first. Sucks when you want to believe the best about someone but they end up proving the rule. Haha yeah, men and women from over there are just gorgeous in general.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/03/24 09:44 PM
1	Why should women take advice from people who loathe them? I think the point is that wearing makeup IS feminine (at least according to public opinion) and a man who wears the same level of makeup as a woman, or any eye makeup, looks gay. You don’t have to like makeup on women personally, but it is a thing that pertains to women or effeminate men, and is therefore feminine by definition. Interesting to hear that Balkan men make fun of their own women. I dated an Albanian man, loved him actually, and he was absolutely terrible in the end, did a 180 and ba…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/03/24 09:11 PM
1	Why should women take advice from people who loathe them? I’ve heard men like Brian Atlas say that they disapprove of women wearing makeup. He said on a podcast he wouldn’t even let his daughter wear makeup while a minor living at home. I wear transparent BB cream and blush, maybe mascara. In no way do I look deceptive, just slightly smoother complexion, pinker cheeks. Now women from Eastern Europe/balkans area have a dramatic makeup style which is very feminine but highly done up and I’m sure they look very different with it off. It still looks femini…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/03/24 08:58 PM
4	Why should women take advice from people who loathe them? Makeup. Have heard many redpill men completely bash it or act like it’s subversive and deceptive.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/03/24 01:44 PM
6	Redpilled men and virgin women will be incompatible with each other Haha pretty much. They don’t value virginity because it aligns with their own morals (which are often loose), they value it as a proxy for “young and unlikely to cheat on me.” But it’s easier to justify your lizard brain preferences by telling yourself they are morally based. In reality, it’s just that they view women as objects - bodies first, people second. Obviously you want the best looking, least used object.. if you’re shopping for an object. I like guys who view view women as people first…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/03/24 03:58 AM
12	Redpilled men and virgin women will be incompatible with each other Well, that’s your opinion. I’ve noticed Redpill men don’t seem to understand the idea that people can actually subjugate their base impulses to a higher moral standard, voluntarily. I was a virgin at 21 because I believed sex is sacred and belongs only within marriage. I still believe that, and I’m still a virgin 10 years later. And no I’m not one of those people who does “everything but.” l’ve loved guys and I certainly have normal desires, but anything beyond kissing is something I’ve decided …	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/03/24 01:19 AM
1	Men may have lesser options than women in the dating scene, but it is still a man’s world in all other areas. Trolls gonna troll. With photoshopped pics no less 😬 good night!	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/03/24 07:32 AM
1	Men may have lesser options than women in the dating scene, but it is still a man’s world in all other areas. Oh boy, a multimillionaire who didn’t go to college and spends his nights trolling people on Reddit. Sureeee Jan. Debating you on Reddit doesn’t make me a feminist, sorry you got confused on that :) good night!	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/03/24 07:29 AM
1	Men may have lesser options than women in the dating scene, but it is still a man’s world in all other areas. I explained how the success I have in life was not handed to me after you claimed women receive unfair advantages over men in education. That was a relevant point to the discussion. You telling me you make 7 figures is irrelevant to the discussion, and if anything counters your whole men-are-oppressed narrative. You seem like a person who has nothing to complain about. And who certainly shouldn’t need a woman to bring monetary value “to the table” as is so often stated. If you are actually makin…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/03/24 07:20 AM
1	Men may have lesser options than women in the dating scene, but it is still a man’s world in all other areas. Oh okay, so you weren’t really interested in having a productive discussion. I see.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/03/24 07:06 AM
2	Men may have lesser options than women in the dating scene, but it is still a man’s world in all other areas. That’s true, I suppose, if bleak. If the issue is appearance, I’d say to make weight loss/physique a priority. That will help with dating apps. Off dating apps, looks still matter, but a good personality can help you out more. On a dating app it’s like 80% looks based, 20% profile.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/03/24 07:05 AM
1	Men may have lesser options than women in the dating scene, but it is still a man’s world in all other areas. My friend, we live in a capitalist society. People who contribute value to society are paid for the value they bring. I’m a female physician assistant making six figures a year not because someone took pity on me, but because I absolutely busted my butt working insanely hard all through school until I was 28 years old. I was born into a family of 6 living on less than 40k a year and had nothing in life handed to me. I had to fight to actually learn (was hands-off homeschooled/self taught from te…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/03/24 07:00 AM
1	Men may have lesser options than women in the dating scene, but it is still a man’s world in all other areas. Because you too will want it when u get older. Want what?	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/03/24 06:26 AM
2	Men may have lesser options than women in the dating scene, but it is still a man’s world in all other areas. I don’t know how to put this, if you are disappointed by what the people you date are bringing to your life, you need to ask yourself what you thought you were getting into and why your expectations were so off the mark. “I’m so bummed. I dated this woman and all she did was give me great sex and companionship. I feel like I’ve been robbed. My time has been completely wasted.”	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/03/24 06:20 AM
3	Men may have lesser options than women in the dating scene, but it is still a man’s world in all other areas. You think affirmative action is the reason women are graduating in higher numbers than men? Sweet summer child. We’re just statistically more focused in school because classroom settings reward the type of behavior more common in young girls. Active boys are more distracted in elementary school, and there are various distractions in middle/high school that must be contributing to boys’ decreased performance. Affirmative action is about racial minorities, can’t believe I’m explaining this. But ye…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/03/24 06:17 AM
2	Men may have lesser options than women in the dating scene, but it is still a man’s world in all other areas. Well from what I’ve read on here (and observed in the world) having sex with attractive women seems to be one of the highest drives in most younger men’s lives. If you don’t find spending time with women and sleeping with them highly rewarding, why spend so much time thinking and talking about it? Go invest in cryptocurrency or something, take lots of vacations, do whatever it is that provides you with what you do value. Fact of the matter is, almost all men want sex (with women), quite a lot. A…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/03/24 06:07 AM
5	Men may have lesser options than women in the dating scene, but it is still a man’s world in all other areas. Yeah, but that has nothing to do with individual women needing individual men - aka, the dating market. That’s what this forum is about. Why would you bring up this point since it’s unrelated to the dating market conversation?	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/03/24 05:57 AM
0	Men may have lesser options than women in the dating scene, but it is still a man’s world in all other areas. You are failing to process what I’ve said, probably intentionally, because you don’t want to concede the point I’m making.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/03/24 05:55 AM
3	Men may have lesser options than women in the dating scene, but it is still a man’s world in all other areas. I’m 31 and have plenty of experience interacting with people of all ages so don’t get snarky. I’m aware that many men have historically deferred cooking and cleaning to women. That’s chosen helplessness if you insist on being dependent. It was NOT the case for all men, as there have been plenty of solo male adventurers and expeditions who cared for themselves just fine without women. Healthy partnerships may delegate tasks differently, but they don’t literally need the other to survive. None of …	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/03/24 05:51 AM
1	Men may have lesser options than women in the dating scene, but it is still a man’s world in all other areas. No, men never needed women to survive. They want women, badly. Male thirst for women far exceeds the opposite. Nothing about men’s want/need for women has changed. Women don’t need men anymore (they used to). They don’t have as much thirst as men though and are more okay with being single due to lower testosterone/less average sex drive.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/03/24 05:45 AM
3	Men may have lesser options than women in the dating scene, but it is still a man’s world in all other areas. Not sure what that has to do with my comment. This post is about the men who complain women won’t date them. That isn’t an “epidemic” for women. Women by and large have no issue getting men to date them. There certainly aren’t whole vocal groups of women with massive internet presences saying men need to lower their standards. We all know this. Your dad being unable to do anything for himself his entire adult life is very strange unless he is physically disabled, and has nothing to do with women…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/03/24 05:41 AM
8	Men may have lesser options than women in the dating scene, but it is still a man’s world in all other areas. However you frame it, it's fair to say that past women needed men to get by in society. Now women have independence and don't need to be married to have any certain rights. It's only logical that men will have less "leverage" by default. Women will still marry and partner with men that they like, but they will be less likely to "settle" for a man they don't like since they can support themselves without sacrificing the opportunity for a loving relationship based on mutual desire.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/03/24 05:33 AM
7	If the woman you meet is a virgin, what makes you think she’s going to stop being a virgin for you when she hasn’t done so for men she’s dated in the past? Serious question, why would you automatically disbelieve someone if they told you they were a virgin? For example, I was raised Christian and and have been in that faith my whole life. I’ve been in several relationships, but none longer than 6 months. I’m a virgin for religious reasons. Why would that be hard to believe? I get it that it might be hard to believe from a woman who gives off a promiscuous vibe, but if a woman hasn’t been in many long term relationships or has religious reasons, it’…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/03/24 04:42 AM
1	Are Situationships for the most part, a result of women not being able to secure men they wish to date? You sound autistic, genuinely. I see no association between your grievances and my pet peeve.. your comment is really off the wall, just you venting about an issue that bothers you. I hope you find a healthier way to deal with the intense amount of negativity you are attempting to dump on me, a random internet stranger. Also: pet peeve = minor annoyance. This happened with one person in 2017. In general, I have zero issues reading men’s signals and don’t find life, dating, or social interactions…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/03/24 03:28 AM
–	Obesity and general slovenliness of the population are large factors in why people are struggling Unhelpful. People are heavier than ever, and net increases in BMI are the result of net increase in adiposity. No healthy person has a BMI of 45. Your point that increased muscle skews BMI is not relevant to the discussion. People are flabbier than they have ever been, and BMIs of 40+ are more common than ever. Waist circumferences are also higher than ever. OP is correct. People who are fat need to overhaul their lifestyle and eat an appropriate amount of calories, however they accomplish that.…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/03/24 11:54 PM
1	Are Situationships for the most part, a result of women not being able to secure men they wish to date? Haha I never said it wasn’t. But that’s not what we’re discussing. I’m providing context of why it’s not simple like a friendship	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/03/24 11:00 PM
1	Are Situationships for the most part, a result of women not being able to secure men they wish to date? The only thing I complained about being a pet peeve was men assuming they are hot and “above” me when I am not actually expressing interest in them, just being friendly. I never blamed men for anything or complained about being hit on by men. It seems like you just have an issue with reading women’s intent that you would like to vent about, but it’s not directly related to my original comment. My advice to you is it sounds like you need help reading nonverbal communication. Don’t assume a woman …	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/03/24 10:20 PM
2	Are Situationships for the most part, a result of women not being able to secure men they wish to date? It’s extremely normal for people at church to talk to each other. I also talk to all of my coworkers, who are men and women of all ages. Yeah, it’s not out of the question to think that a random stranger who comes up and strikes up a conversation might be interested, but someone at church just being friendly? That’s normal. And if anything, the average woman is more friendly than the average man, as evidenced by talking to people to be nice without hoping to get anything from them. The whole rea…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/03/24 08:05 PM
1	Are Situationships for the most part, a result of women not being able to secure men they wish to date? Yeah, but I doubt you met those friends on bumble dating and spend long hours just the two of you together and pay for her food/drinks when you go out. Or cuddle, offer massages, say you want a relationship with them, etc. It’s just strange to me that anyone would call that “a friend.” My friendships are platonic and this has been anything but. Like if I dated someone else and said of the situationship guy “oh we were just friends,” that’s not really an honest answer. “We dated for months but we…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/03/24 07:16 PM
1	Are Situationships for the most part, a result of women not being able to secure men they wish to date? In my case, both people being emotionally drawn to each other personality wise and having chemistry at some level, but there being other factors that concerned me and made it hard for me to agree to a relationship. I only commit to a relationship if I can see myself marrying someone, and with him he has issues I would need him to work through before that point. I don’t go on dates/have sexual tension with my friends. Basically a situationship is an early phase relationship in arrested developmen…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/03/24 06:46 PM
2	Are Situationships for the most part, a result of women not being able to secure men they wish to date? Lol. Definitely wouldn’t date someone who thinks the only difference between a friendship and a relationship is sex 🙄	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/03/24 06:29 PM
5	The best and most healthy relationships in the real world usually involve women who are crazier for their male partner than the other way around. Women likes man more —> woman feels insecure, feels like man won’t be satisfied with her, jealous/controlling behaviors develop Man likes woman more —> man feels insecure, feels like woman won’t be satisfied with him, jealous/controlling behaviors develop Both partners feel similar levels of love/respect/attraction for each other—> imbalances are minimized and therefore jealousy and insecurity are not a theme in the relationship Yeah I’m going to go with option 3. It’s tempting to think you’d pr…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/03/24 09:24 AM
1	Are Situationships for the most part, a result of women not being able to secure men they wish to date? Haha it’s a fair question. I can really only think of one person that irked me this way and I suppose he was fairly good looking (bookish, scruffy, glasses) although not my typical type. I can’t prove that’s the reason, but basically we went to church together and he would talk to everyone at church except me and the two single female roommates I had (all the single women at church in his age range). And then he ended up converting a very petite, extremely conventionally attractive woman and bri…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/03/24 09:36 PM
8	Are Situationships for the most part, a result of women not being able to secure men they wish to date? This reminds me of my largest pet peeve: when I’m literally just being friendly and have no interest in a guy romantically, and he assumes that by talking to him I am hitting on him, and avoids me as a result 💀 I know dudes are more likely to only talk to girls if they are interested, but girls will talk to anyone. Me being friendly is not hitting on you. Geez.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/03/24 07:40 PM
0	Are Situationships for the most part, a result of women not being able to secure men they wish to date? You have a weird idea of friendship lol. I don’t go on dates with my friends, and they don’t pay for my food, or cuddle with me, or talk about the possibility of being in a relationship. But that’s just me..	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/03/24 06:18 PM
1	Are Situationships for the most part, a result of women not being able to secure men they wish to date? Cool	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/03/24 05:46 PM
1	Are Situationships for the most part, a result of women not being able to secure men they wish to date? That’s literally all I’ve been trying to convey to you. Be aware that you’re making an assumption. There’s virgins out here having situationships too, lol	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/03/24 05:37 PM
1	Are Situationships for the most part, a result of women not being able to secure men they wish to date? I don’t think what you’re considering “the worst” is the worst. Or even all that bad. Okay, that’s fine. It doesn’t affect our discussion how you feel about morals. I’m just not gonna pretend it isn’t what it is. It’s not that you’re pretending, it’s that you’re assuming. You’re welcome to assume that by “situationship,” a woman means a sexual relationship. But that is not always the case, so sometimes your assumption would be wrong.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/03/24 05:17 PM
1	Are Situationships for the most part, a result of women not being able to secure men they wish to date? You are welcome to assume what you like when a woman says she has been a situationship. I am simply here to inform you that there are other (less common?) meanings that people may mean when they say that. Feel free to assume the worst.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/03/24 04:51 PM
1	Are Situationships for the most part, a result of women not being able to secure men they wish to date? Sure, some possible are in situations they are ashamed of, and may refer to that as a situationship. And some people just use situationship to mean a complicated, non embarrassing, non degrading, non sexual, undefined relationship. If the term only meant what you’re referring to, then it would be no help. The whole reason people might use it to cover up shady behavior is that it is broad and can refer to both embarrassing and non-embarrassing relationships. Hope that clarifies your confusion!	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/03/24 04:42 PM
1	Are Situationships for the most part, a result of women not being able to secure men they wish to date? What is the difference between a situationship and dating? In your opinion? It situationship a subcategory of dating to you? Or are they mutually exclusive?	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/03/24 04:23 PM
1	Are Situationships for the most part, a result of women not being able to secure men they wish to date? Your point? And no, if a relationship has been labeled as such by the parties such that they are boyfriend and girlfriend, it is not a situationship. Situationship is not formalized by the parties involved. They have not agreed that they are in a formal relationship. So “situationship” excludes all official relationships. It in no way describes “all dating relationships that aren’t on equal footing.”	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/03/24 04:16 PM
1	Are Situationships for the most part, a result of women not being able to secure men they wish to date? Nope. The word situationship is used, by many people, to describe emotionally entangled sexual and nonsexual relationships. That is therefore what is means. Maybe I forgot to specify that my situationship did not include sex. I don’t practice premarital sex. That doesn’t mean I am immune to emotionally complicated relationships. Lots of people live lives that don’t fit your narrow view of how the world operates. I’m one of them, and often have to remind narrow minded people on this forum that wo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/03/24 04:08 PM
1	Are Situationships for the most part, a result of women not being able to secure men they wish to date? Yeah, a situationship is also dating. It’s just a way of describing a particular type of dating. Attempting to gatekeep the definition of a situationship as something narrower than it is, that’s a strange hill to die on. Situationships don’t have to involve sex, even if you wouldn’t use that term for it. Other people use it to mean unconsummated relationships, so your view is overly narrow and incorrect. The definition of any word is as wide as generalized usage of the term (not one person’s nar…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/03/24 03:54 PM
2	Are Situationships for the most part, a result of women not being able to secure men they wish to date? No, casual dating is uncomplicated. A situationship implies some level of emotional entanglement that is complicated. “a romantic or sexual relationship that is not considered to be formal or established.” - Google dictionary I’ve dated many men casually, but considered myself to have no attachment to them and dated none for more than a month. The situationship was essentially almost a relationship, but I couldn’t commit to that. It’s gone on for about 7 months with a gap where we were not seein…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/03/24 03:43 PM
4	Are Situationships for the most part, a result of women not being able to secure men they wish to date? Thank you for an intelligent reply. These people on this thread have no grasp of attachment issues, nor can they imagine a scenario where a woman has trouble committing to a man she is dating. Apparently, for some strange reason, men are willing to date me even though I don’t have sex with them (shocker), and in my situationship, I was the one not willing to make it an official relationship since he had some issues I didn’t want in a future father of my children. This scenario is real, but incon…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/03/24 03:38 PM
2	Are Situationships for the most part, a result of women not being able to secure men they wish to date? No, a situationship is defined as “a romantic or sexual relationship that is not considered to be formal or established.” Sex is not by definition involved. A romantic entanglement without sex can also qualify as a situationship. FWB is the term when it is NSA sex, and sex is always assumed to be involved.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/03/24 03:33 PM
11	Are Situationships for the most part, a result of women not being able to secure men they wish to date? Exactly. ITT, just a lot of men deluding themselves that all women are promiscuous and dating men who don’t like them. Not the case in my celibate situationship. Life and relationships involve all sorts of complexity even when sex is not part of the equation. But a lot of commenters here seem rather hung up on sex.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/03/24 03:28 PM
4	Are Situationships for the most part, a result of women not being able to secure men they wish to date? I’ve been in something I labeled a situationship and never even kissed the guy, much less had sex. I think your definition is overly narrow. A situationship is just less defined than a relationship. I’ve had 3 relationships and none of them involved sex either. So if you can have a relationship without sex, why would a less serious situationship de facto involve sex? Most people are fairly loose these days, but plenty of religious people save themselves for marriage and therefore aren’t having s…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/03/24 03:25 PM
5	Are Situationships for the most part, a result of women not being able to secure men they wish to date? Situationship is just a word, friend. If there are women who have been in a situation different than you describe, and used “situationship” to describe it, then it doesn’t necessarily mean what you are saying. A woman could describe a FWB thing as a situationship. I’m a woman and have only had one situationship. There was no physical kissing/intimacy although on his end he was ready for that and said he wanted a relationship. It was/is a complicated situation where I like him as a person, but kn…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/03/24 03:20 PM
0	Are Situationships for the most part, a result of women not being able to secure men they wish to date? I’ve been in a situationship with a guy for several months. He wants a relationship and I can’t yet commit. We don’t have sex (I don’t do premarital sex) and haven’t even kissed. Basically, I like parts of his personality and want to be optimistic that his misogynistic/red pill type beliefs are something he can work through, but until we are on the same page and I fully trust him, I don’t want to officially call it a relationship. I broke it off at one point and honestly probably should again, b…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/03/24 03:06 PM
1	A woman pushing for commitment can leave a man feeling the same way a man pushing for sex makes a woman feel I can’t believe I have to break this down, but people learn new things and change their behavior. So someone might have lost their virginity thinking it was fine and later come to the position that premarital sex is a sin. Also, a significant percentage of people who aim for “no sex before marriage” don’t succeed perfectly. Sex drive is powerful. They still feel bad or consider the times they had sex to be sinful. It’s completely normal that they still want to not sin in the future. We don’t all…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/03/24 12:00 PM
3	Most women are too concerned about themselves and what they can get from men to be able to love. Why are you indignant? Do you believe women can’t be loving and thoughtful in relationships and do heartwarming things? If you don’t want/value that, we probably don’t have much in common and you wouldn’t be the type of man I’m usually dating.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/03/24 02:09 AM
1	Most women are too concerned about themselves and what they can get from men to be able to love. For sure. I think if I was a man, I would make it my goal to be selective about who I date and probably avoid women who seem materialistic/superficial.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/03/24 02:07 AM
2	Most women are too concerned about themselves and what they can get from men to be able to love. I think the problem is this, and I’ll try to explain it in a way that makes sense: someone must be the one to “set the tone” of the relationship. As a woman, I’m more traditional in many ways. The way that I am comfortable in a relationship is with the man being the leader and initiator, and I am the one who responds. (That’s the way the early pre-relationship phase goes anyway.) If a man starts off being aloof and ungenerous in the way described above, putting in minimal effort, he will never f…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/03/24 08:37 PM
10	Most women are too concerned about themselves and what they can get from men to be able to love. It’s like this. As a woman, I want a relationship in which I am cherished. I want to love that partner back, put in effort, do thoughtful things for them, etc. A relationship based on mutual affection and treating the other well, both putting in high amounts of effort. The last man I dated was influenced by redpill ideas. None of my previous exes were, so this was a new experience. All my exes would always show up on time, plan dates, want to pay for me, text cute things frequently, send good mo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/03/24 01:15 PM
1	A woman pushing for commitment can leave a man feeling the same way a man pushing for sex makes a woman feel Don’t want to risk pregnancy Don’t feel it’s morally right You don’t have to be a virgin to have those opinions. Virginity status is not relevant.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/03/24 12:00 PM
2	A woman pushing for commitment can leave a man feeling the same way a man pushing for sex makes a woman feel You said “Men can't fathom why a woman might not be excited to immediately have sex with a man if she actually loves him.“ This is not true. Unless he is an idiot, he can put himself in her shoes and understand why she might not want to- not willing to accept risk of pregnancy, moral beliefs, etc. Medieval times? Have you been living under a rock? It was commonplace in the US for women to be virgins at marriage even into the 1930s to 1950s. Lots of men can fathom why a woman might not want to ha…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/03/24 01:22 AM
1	manosphere dudes are turning off the very women they are trying attract and seem oblivious to this. I’m not interested in making a list of what is red pill.. these are simply qualities possessed by a man who was “redpill” and very involved in the parts of the internet that like to bash women. Paul Elam, whatever podcast, pearl Davis, Andrew Tate, trad women accounts on Twitter that only bash women and post thought porn for men, telling them things that make them feel good. That sort of stuff. I don’t care what YOU call it. The content, not the name of the content, is the issue. I have an avers…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/03/24 05:23 AM
1	manosphere dudes are turning off the very women they are trying attract and seem oblivious to this. I was under the impression that it had something to do with religious stuff, basically views that did not conform with highly liberal academia. What offensive redpill stuff is he saying? Because I’m not automatically bothered by people making generalizations about men and women. I’m offended by men downplaying women’s intelligence and treating them like objects to be manipulated. Acknowledging biological tendencies/reality is not an issue for me.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/03/24 04:38 AM
3	A woman pushing for commitment can leave a man feeling the same way a man pushing for sex makes a woman feel Okay I feel like you’re just being pedantic. So looking for a serious relationship is fine, but SAYING that is a red flag. I disagree. “Looking for” is a section on most dating apps and the options are marriage, serious, casual, etc. You put serious relationship if you’re looking for that. Heck I’m looking for marriage eventually. Why should I be expected to lie about my goals? That’s absurd.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/03/24 04:33 AM
3	A woman pushing for commitment can leave a man feeling the same way a man pushing for sex makes a woman feel All my boyfriends have had a very easy time understanding why I don’t have premarital sex. It’s against my religion, and most of my exes have also been Christian. Those that weren’t were still understanding of my reasons and actually respected me way more for it. Lots of people throughout history practiced no sex before marriage. It may be as common now, but it’s definitely been the norm in many societies throughout history. But I’ve noticed redpill doesn’t really seem to understand that people …	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/03/24 04:29 AM
1	manosphere dudes are turning off the very women they are trying attract and seem oblivious to this. Nope, I’m concerned about future men and women from gen alpha. Was there something I said that made you think otherwise or are you just mistaking your own biases as my opinion?	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/03/24 04:24 AM
1	manosphere dudes are turning off the very women they are trying attract and seem oblivious to this. Lol. The men I’ve been in relationships with are financially successful and attractive, and I like their personalities. Why would you have any insight to make an insulting comment like that? I’m also conventionally attractive, fit, like people/socializing, and work a cool job in ER making over 6 figures. I date cool people because I also have quite a bit going for me. Not everyone who’s single and figuring out their relationships is a loser so keep your projections to yourself. Insulting people …	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/03/24 04:18 AM
2	A woman pushing for commitment can leave a man feeling the same way a man pushing for sex makes a woman feel I agree with all of that generally. I know men usually want sex sooner and a woman’s readiness is usually the limiting factor. I agree that men should be the ones to ask for commitment, but that’s because I believe in traditional relationship dynamics and want to be with a man who has a confident, pursuer mindset. I don’t thinking of it in terms of gatekeeping really.. it’s more like he puts his feelings out there first, and then I get to decide second whether or not I want a relationship. But g…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/03/24 12:18 PM
4	A woman pushing for commitment can leave a man feeling the same way a man pushing for sex makes a woman feel I saw that comment and agreed. Your comment said verbatim : “looking for a serious relationship is a red flag in my book, always has been” That’s what I disagree with.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/03/24 12:12 PM
1	manosphere dudes are turning off the very women they are trying attract and seem oblivious to this. I don’t have kids. But when I do, they sure as hell won’t be on the internet unsupervised on handheld devices. But guess what? They will have to grow up in a society where many other children have warped minds and toxic beliefs obtained from the internet - Andrew Tate is simply one of thousands of toxic internet influences. There’s nothing my parenting can do to fix large scale societal issues. But the people who create rage bait and polarization online are leaving a wake of incalculable damage …	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/03/24 12:09 PM
1	A woman pushing for commitment can leave a man feeling the same way a man pushing for sex makes a woman feel No need to be rude, I can read just fine. When you say “gatekeep commitment” it gives the impression that the woman wants commitment first and the man is the rate limiting step. What about men who want commitment and the woman isn’t ready? Because I’ve been in that situation too. Your wording just suggests that all women want commitment always, and the man just has to say the word. It’s a bit demeaning to women to imply that they are at the mercy of men agreeing to commit to them. If a man asks …	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/03/24 12:00 PM
–	manosphere dudes are turning off the very women they are trying attract and seem oblivious to this. 😂 I saw your other comments. Big middle school energy my man. “I’ll keep repeating the same sentence until I have the last word. I’m so tOuGh”	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/03/24 11:48 AM
2	manosphere dudes are turning off the very women they are trying attract and seem oblivious to this. It’s pretty rare that I get secondhand embarrassment from the way another woman is talking in the sub, but seriously you are being unreasonable and rude. Feel free to ignore my last comment because I don’t think you’re the kind of person who can have a moderate discussion. I’m not even a JP stan whatsoever but calling him redpill or extreme is a completely wild take.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/03/24 11:46 AM
3	manosphere dudes are turning off the very women they are trying attract and seem oblivious to this. Yeah no, as a woman whose not redpill in any way, JP is nowhere comparable to Andrew Tate. He’s really not redpill at all, just traditional. I wasn’t even aware of redpill at the time I was first exposed to JP. I disagree with 90% of the perspectives on here, but let’s be moderate. Unless you’re very politically liberal and offended by nearly everything, JP shouldn’t be offensive. He seems well intentioned even if I don’t blanket endorse everything he says.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/03/24 11:38 AM
0	manosphere dudes are turning off the very women they are trying attract and seem oblivious to this. Exactly. I would never consider someone with misogynistic/redpill ideology to be a good match, so that’s the end of the road.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/03/24 11:34 AM
2	manosphere dudes are turning off the very women they are trying attract and seem oblivious to this. Let me put it to you this way, after my first experience dating a red pill guy last year, I know some general things to look out for, such as: -Talk of high value/low value Bringing up topics like feminism, Taylor Swift, the Barbie movie to see how I react -Fixation on Elon musk -No female friends -Actually basically no social life at all -Narcissistic behaviors like using our dates to monologue and talk about himself while showing little interest in my life -Lied about his age by 5 years to mat…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/03/24 11:31 AM
1	manosphere dudes are turning off the very women they are trying attract and seem oblivious to this. You actually believe that? Wow	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/03/24 11:18 AM
1	manosphere dudes are turning off the very women they are trying attract and seem oblivious to this. What a troll this dude is. Just repeating the same quip over and over like a 10 year old trying to be annoying.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/03/24 11:16 AM
1	manosphere dudes are turning off the very women they are trying attract and seem oblivious to this. Your original comment said nothing about whether children are influenced by this type of content. If they are, the fact that it’s fake is irrelevant.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/03/24 11:14 AM
1	manosphere dudes are turning off the very women they are trying attract and seem oblivious to this. I’ve never had an issue failing to attract the men I was attracted to. There’s no magic rule that says “if you like someone, it’s because they are better than you and out of your league.” People don’t exist with a point value score that can be compared linearly. People attempt to score looks, and even that is highly subjective. There is no way to account for a person’s personality traits and the million other pros/cons of dating then in a single score. Therefore… it’s completely possible that I …	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/03/24 11:10 AM
1	manosphere dudes are turning off the very women they are trying attract and seem oblivious to this. For starters, I’ve never had the experience of dating a guy, wanting commitment, and him not being ready. All my former boyfriends wanted commitment within the first month and asked. If a guy and girl both like each other and want a relationship, the masculine thing is to take initiative and ask to make it official. Same way that asking for a date, insisting on paying, driving to meet her, are all masculine gestures. So actually, contrary to what you said, this filters out more feminine men, or …	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/03/24 11:00 AM
1	manosphere dudes are turning off the very women they are trying attract and seem oblivious to this. Women have reactive desire most of the time, meaning that if they already like a guy somewhat, and he shows her a lot of interest/attention/desire for her, it actually makes her like him more. I absolutely and only date guys who like me a lot and aren’t afraid to show their cards. That puts me at ease and makes me feel good. If redpill tells guys not to chase women and to make them do all the heavy lifting.. well that’s going to turn off most normally-wired girls. The only girls left will be one…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/03/24 10:44 AM
3	A woman pushing for commitment can leave a man feeling the same way a man pushing for sex makes a woman feel So are you saying that men go through a phase in early relationships where they want to be with a woman but are simultaneously grossed out at the thought of being her boyfriend? And eventually get over the ickiness of commitment at some point a few months in, long after the woman was ready for it? Because that just sounds like being emotionally unavailable and/or dating people you aren’t attracted to. All my past boyfriends suggested we become exclusive in the first few weeks of dating, on their…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/03/24 10:32 AM
8	A woman pushing for commitment can leave a man feeling the same way a man pushing for sex makes a woman feel Yeah, really can’t relate. If you have a crush on someone, you are excited to take a relationship to the next level of exclusivity and being official. It’s so bizarre to act like as a man you’re suffering in some way or being insulted if a girl wants to be exclusive with you. But I’ve never experienced dating a guy for several weeks, wanting a relationship, and him not feeling the same way. All the guys I’ve been in relationships with have flat out asked me to be their girlfriend in the first mo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/03/24 10:27 AM
3	A woman pushing for commitment can leave a man feeling the same way a man pushing for sex makes a woman feel What the heck. Wanting a serious relationship is a red flag? I actually want to get married, and all the guys I’ve been in relationships with have wanted that and brought it up themselves. They wanted serious relationships too. What a bizarre take.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/03/24 10:19 AM
4	You can't change what you're attracted to. But most people can compromise on certain preferences. What did I just read 😂 (please tell me you are making fun of people with unrealistic expectations since you spent like 3 paragraphs describing a dream woman who doesn’t exist and then compared it to women holding out for a basic decent man who’d make a good husband and father) On second read, maybe you are serious? If so, the two things you listed aren’t parallel. Parallel would be an attractive woman with a good personality, hardworking, into raising kids if that’s what you want. None of the in…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/03/24 12:52 PM
0	"What do you bring to the table" is a horrible take as love shouldn't be something that can be calculated by the numbers Serious question: why do you single out fat women with high standards? Standards are something all women/men have and weight is irrelevant. If fat women are not your target audience, it’s irrelevant. It’s just strange to me to be bothered by other people’s delusional expectations. If a lazy person who doesn’t take care of their health feels entitled to a rich, attractive, successful partner, let them live in delusion.. reality will sort it out.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/03/24 09:12 AM
1	"just treat them like humans" The proper analogy would be, “I hit my wife but she still loves me.” And that’s effed up. The one you gave is a backwards example from the perspective of the abused. The abused does not get to justify abuse just because of a lack of pushback. The situation at hand is a man abusing a woman and still getting what he wants out of her. And the commenter here is suggesting there’s no reason to treat women well because that’s not necessary in order to get sex. Gross. What happened to treating people w…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/02/24 12:01 AM
–	Immaturity is a bigger problem with guys than they think. Interesting. Yeah I’m shocked to see how single mindedly one individual could churn out content for this sub. Never paid attention or noticed her name though. To be fair anyone who posts here a whole lot is probably eccentric. And yes, obviously a person’s credentials are going to impact their credibility. Someone with minimal dating experience is probably not going to have much positive advice on success dating. But I’d like to think this is more than a PUA forum and I think there’s plenty of r…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/02/24 04:20 AM
–	Immaturity is a bigger problem with guys than they think. I was trying to reply to your comment about Lilith needing to "post a picture of itself so owe can all see if it's even [is] the caliber of woman we'd consider input from" but that comment was removed by the mod. So I'll just reply here instead. I’m not familiar with Lilith, but I was impressed in the quality of opinion/thought being expressed. A lot of what gets posted on this sub is rehashing of concepts that feel tired, and this was definitely more original. The beauty of Reddit is that a per…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/02/24 06:49 PM
1	"just treat them like humans" Obviously the person saying that is implying that men should take note and consider adjusting their approach to start treating women like shit. I don’t know why it is hard for you to understand that I would question the validity of a method that “works” but involves abuse. The entire gist of my point is that (in the off chance that a woman has self esteem issues and is actually attracted to an abuser because most healthy women won’t be) if the guy succeeds at abusing and manipulating her into ha…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/02/24 06:40 PM
1	"just treat them like humans" There is a wide spectrum in what individual women want, and in no way do all women want to be “treated like shit.” Feel free to cite a study you think supports your unlikely claim and we can go from there. I will not grant you that women in general, enjoy being abused (that sounds like a fetish thing) but most are looking for guys with a backbone and more dominant, take-charge characteristics. You can be attractive by being a strong person who doesn’t take shit without being an abusive asshole. …	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/02/24 07:31 PM
8	Women, what do you bring to the table? So what are YOU looking for in a woman if not the things she listed?	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/02/24 11:18 AM
1	"just treat them like humans" You are one sick in the head individual. Surrounded by plenty of others, but still. Crazy that you can hear yourself say that you enjoy hearing about women being mistreated and still type that sentence out. The world is a worse place because of the existence of folks who are sick in the head like you.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/02/24 04:23 AM
1	"just treat them like humans" Oh you’re so tough 😂 well, had you read all my comments you’d see plenty of discussion of the different definitions of success. Succeeding at doing things that harm other people is wrong and should not be praised or emulated. And if you disagree, you’re just outing yourself as a sociopath :)	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/02/24 03:04 AM
1	"just treat them like humans" Reread all your comments and see nothing close to a coherent point, just a few slurs, baseless accusations, and one made up word :) what was the point you were trying to make?	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/02/24 12:27 AM
1	"just treat them like humans" Lol, perfectly capable of responding in kind. Your mumbo jumbo profanity laden comment did not make an intellectual argument nor warrant an intellectual reply :)	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/02/24 12:06 AM
1	"just treat them like humans" You, my friend, need to learn to spell. Better to keep your mouth closed and conceal your low IQ and lack of education :)	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/02/24 10:57 PM
0	"just treat them like humans" Rape also “works.” Something “working” doesn’t mean it’s right or acceptable. It has to also be morally above board or else it’s harmful behavior. No one should be giving others advice on this sub saying “treat women like shit and you’ll enjoy the results.” That’s exactly the meaning that was conveyed in an earlier comment.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/02/24 06:15 PM
1	"just treat them like humans" And when two people are having a discussion, and one of them tries to pull a gotcha move using their definition of the word, when I’m using a slightly different definition, it’s counterproductive.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/02/24 04:44 PM
1	"just treat them like humans" I wouldn’t say being an asshole, like just a salty/edgy/rebellious person is an issue. Maybe some women like that. The issue I have would be with deception and bait and switch tactics where what you see is not what you get.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/02/24 09:29 AM
5	"just treat them like humans" Point is that the end doesn’t justify the means. Just because you “got sex” doesn’t mean the way you got it is acceptable.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/02/24 09:27 AM
1	"just treat them like humans" What a weirdo 😂	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/02/24 09:25 AM
-3	"just treat them like humans" Someone who rapes also “succeeds” at having sex. What are the parameters for what you feel good about? Obviously rape is wrong, but what about lying and manipulation? Or telling a girl you love her so she’ll be willing to sleep with you, then ghosting her afterwards?	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/02/24 10:01 PM
2	"just treat them like humans" And re “all the time in the world,” nice try at a subtle dig. I work night shifts in an emergency room and if I want to blow off steam debating with strangers on Reddit, before rolling out and dealing with crazy people again for another 10 hours, hey we all have our time wasters. You’re on here going back and forth with me as well so seems odd of you to judge.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/02/24 09:58 PM
2	"just treat them like humans" Nah, just familiar with with the dictionary 😄 have a good day, young grasshopper!	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/02/24 09:39 PM
2	"just treat them like humans" Dude I already clarified your point of confusion several times and you still don’t understand that the word success has multiple senses of the term. You think that by using one definition of the word (a success in the literal sense of accomplishment of anything, good or bad) that you’ve therefore proven your case. You can succeed at suicide and not be a successful person as a result of that. You can succeed at getting arrested and killing someone. That does not make you a successful or aspiratio…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/02/24 09:37 PM
2	"just treat them like humans" You can succeed at doing harmful and immoral things. But that is not the same as being a successful person. It is wrong to depict harmful behavior as something worth copying or “learning from.”	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/02/24 09:31 PM
2	"just treat them like humans" Always funny when people like you try to back people into a corner with a yes/no question because your point isn’t strong enough to just say it ;)	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/02/24 09:28 PM
1	"just treat them like humans" What’s childish is what you’re rather obviously attempting to do here - create an analogy between two sides of a nation engaging in a war for the cause of high ideals, necessarily resulting in loss of human life And Men lying to and seducing women under false pretenses for the “higher purpose” of getting laid. Soooo similar 🙄 getting laid ain’t that important, home boy.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/02/24 09:20 PM
2	"just treat them like humans" The entire point of my original comment is that harming another individual is not a “win” or a form of success that should be copied or aspired to. Success can mean simply accomplishing one’s goal. I.e. “successful suicide.” That’s not a good form of success. If someone on here says “well he treats women like shit and has lots of success” I’m going to question that this form of “success” is something good that other people should want to copy.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/02/24 09:15 PM
3	"just treat them like humans" Was the civil war fought based on the interests of a single individual to profit by exploitation? Also, did you sleep through history class?	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/02/24 09:09 PM
3	"just treat them like humans" What does a gold digger have to do with anything? It’s the same situation as a man abusing a woman, just with the genders reversed. This is obviously wrong and the same sociopathic “success” I’ve been pointing out is wrong. You are not advancing the conversation at all.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/02/24 09:07 PM
0	"just treat them like humans" Oh I never said anything about sociopaths being a new development. Evil people have always been making the world a worse place, and they still are.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/02/24 09:03 PM
-1	"just treat them like humans" I’m not denying that point. But as you and I both know, lots of men in this forum seem perfectly happy with that outcome or form of success. And that’s problematic. Why it annoys you that I should bring that up in conversation as a point to be made.. only you know.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/02/24 09:01 PM
2	"just treat them like humans" Not hung up, just rightfully questioning that harming another individual is a win :)	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/02/24 08:57 PM
4	"just treat them like humans" *Your example You seem a bit dense.. you’re (which means “you are”) basically just reiterating the initial viewpoint I challenged without adding any material to the conversation.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/02/24 08:55 PM
0	"just treat them like humans" Irrelevant. And also false, because plenty of relationships don’t involve some pining, rejected 3rd party. A relationship can easily involve 2 winners and zero losers.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/02/24 08:40 PM
3	"just treat them like humans" The word success implies a favorable outcome, one worth seeking. That’s what I’m challenging. And who are you to say morality is irrelevant? I’m of the opinion that it’s highly relevant.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/02/24 08:36 PM
2	"just treat them like humans" Ahh so “he” is a sociopath. Noted.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/02/24 07:59 PM
4	"just treat them like humans" Are we talking about a competition or a relationship? Plenty of romantic unions involve two people who are both happy about the arrangement.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/02/24 07:58 PM
4	"just treat them like humans" Is that an outcome you’d be happy with? If so, that’s a rather antisocial attitude. Most normal people without antisocial tendencies feel bad when they cause suffering to another person, and that would negate any other positive feelings about their own “winning.”	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/02/24 07:55 PM
1	"just treat them like humans" Define “success.” Had sex and the woman got played and felt used? Because that’s a really interesting definition of success if so.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/02/24 06:49 PM
5	Women punching too high in dating All of my past boyfriends are hot. He was roughly middle of the pack. The others were better educated and not smokers. No, I was actually considering breaking up with him, but then he got avoidant, snapped, and the second he started avoiding it triggered me to be obsessed with him. People want what they can’t have. So even if someone is not on your level, if they push you away you’ll be inclined to chase them. “League” has a lot to do with looks, but being broke, smoking, or having drug/alcohol …	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/02/24 06:11 AM
7	Women punching too high in dating What the heck. You clearly know nothing about attachment styles! I had one avoidant ex, well below my league but I liked him as a person and he was attractive/kind, but not well educated, smoker, and had emotional issues. Not on par with past boyfriends and my friends didn’t like him but I was crazy about him. We broke up because he didn’t want to quit smoking and I had the hardest time getting over him.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/02/24 05:56 AM
1	It seems for the average guy every woman is suddenly "demisexual" It might be hard to believe, but some women are actually demisexual. Demisexual = not interested in sex unless an emotional bond has been formed. I can be turned off by a person’s body, so there are certain people I don’t date because I wouldn’t be able to appreciate them physically, but then if I think someone is attractive it remains a non sexual appreciation of beauty until a strong emotional connection forms. If I think you’re cute + I feel connected to you and close to you as a person becau…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/02/24 01:55 AM
5	Are women who date online "exploitative"? OP is such a troll here. The whole gist of this post is that women who use dating apps and passport bros are equally “exploitative.” Why do you need to convince strangers on the internet that you’re not a loser for being unable to find a suitable partner in your own country? We can all see you feel the need to belittle other groups - here women on dating apps - to combat your own insecurity. If you want to go overseas, have at it. If you don’t, don’t. But this ridiculous post is not it, homie.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/02/24 04:57 PM
1	How do you avoid desperation and despair as you get older? Hey now, realistically the ratio of “good catches” to dysfunctional people changes, but there are always some great people out there at any age who just haven’t met the right person. Also, some people make great friends but are eccentric and need a romantic partner who meshes well with their quirks. Some people might be perfect just for you, but not as appealing to others.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/02/24 05:45 AM
1	How do you avoid desperation and despair as you get older? I date people my age, while you devalue any women over a certain age in preference of younger women. So it is you, not me, being biased against older ages. By the way, the correct word for age related discrimination is bias, not bigotry. My last boyfriend had a high school education while I have a grad school degree, but nice try. I don’t have contempt for those with less education; it’s just one factor of many. You’re very contrarian, you know. You still don’t seem to understand my point about …	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/02/24 01:57 AM
11	What women consider “high value man" is symmetrically tied to the amount baby momma’s he has fighting over him Y’all don’t get it. Attractiveness is the first filter. That gets you in the door. THEN the next filter is desired personality traits/character. Are they kind, funny, thoughtful? How do they make you feel? If your personality sucks, I’m not going to date you, no matter if you’re good looking or not. Looks might get you the interview, but personality gets you the job. Attractiveness is somewhat subjective. I usually date guys who are somewhat sweet and have good relationships with their moms and …	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/02/24 05:07 PM
1	How do you avoid desperation and despair as you get older? My second boyfriend was Asian (I'm white) and my last was eastern European. I wouldn't characterize myself as bigoted. Different experiences, racial background, all create interest. Common values, outlook, approach to life, education, and success are useful things in a relationship. It's not necessary to have everything in common, but commonality is helpful. It's good to be in a relationship with someone who has similar attractiveness and similar means as you to avoid insecurity about being chea…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/02/24 04:32 AM
2	How do you avoid desperation and despair as you get older? It's perfectly fair to want someone as young, healthy, fit, and successful as you are. I look for partners who are similar to me in life - roughly the same age, same education level, similar finances, similar attractiveness etc. Of course it's unreasonable for women to ask their man be far richer, or better looking, or successful, than they are. Or be in shape when they are a couch potato. The problem is with people who think they are entitled to unreasonable standards - someone more physically …	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/02/24 08:46 AM
2	How do you avoid desperation and despair as you get older? You said that’s what you’re planning on- serial LTRs with young women. It’s a gross way of viewing women as objects that depreciate in value, while viewing men as beings who are owners of the objects. A normal man with a healthy mind views all people as beings (souls rather than bodies) and understands that everyone ages, everyone becomes less attractive, and this is normal. They do not believe it impacts a person’s value. They do not believe that moderate success and hard work in life “earns” t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/02/24 05:57 AM
1	How do you avoid desperation and despair as you get older? You sound like you’ve had redpill conditioning lol. In what society is it the norm to dump a woman once she turns 25? Also we have plenty of census data to test your claim that every 20 year old girl got married off to an old man in the US in the 1800s (pre-feminism). I’d wager most people were dating their peers from grade school and men and women were both marrying at around 16-18	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/02/24 05:08 AM
1	How do you avoid desperation and despair as you get older? I’m not feminist. Age gap revulsion is natural and doesn’t need to be taught. Same principle that makes people naturally hate pedophiles	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/02/24 04:35 AM
1	How do you avoid desperation and despair as you get older? Most well adjusted, desirable women are looking for permanece and stability in a relationship. Not many 25 year olds will be willing to date an older man, unless they have issues and are looking for a sugar daddy. Healthy, well adjusted people date their own age 95+ percent of the time. Your game plan to date women under 25 for your entire life isn’t likely to work unless you are Leonardo DiCaprio or something.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/02/24 04:31 AM
7	How do you avoid desperation and despair as you get older? If you find it unenjoyable to be in a relationship with a woman over 35, marriage is not for you	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/02/24 10:55 PM
7	How do you avoid desperation and despair as you get older? The initial discussion was the use of the word attractive to mean physically attractive. You are free to not want to date widows, doctors, etc, but none of that has anything to do with a persons genetic makeup and physical appearance Also, your last bullet point is peak irony 😂😂👌🏻	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/02/24 09:30 PM
1	How do you avoid desperation and despair as you get older? Well I'm a virgin. I prefer to date guys who are within my "league," make it very clear that they are attracted to me, and like me as a person enough to wait for marriage to have sex. So none of that describes my behavior in my 20s. You do you boo, but if you're older than 31-32, dating a 25 year old is creepy.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/02/24 09:12 PM
5	How do you avoid desperation and despair as you get older? Oh I did identify about 7 general possibilities, for starters. Either you didn't read my comment, or you aren't thinking clearly. Being attractive does not preclude the possibility of being single for a multitude of reasons. Being crazy is only one possible reason for being attractive and single over 30. There are many others. Here's another example - spouse died. You think an attractive person over 30 can't become single when their spouse dies? Of course they can.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/02/24 08:54 PM
1	How do you avoid desperation and despair as you get older? Lol what. I'm a woman and have generally always preferred to date someone within 3-4 years of my age. 24, had a bf who was 23. At 27, had a bf who was 31. At 29, had a bf who was 33. At 31, I'm looking to date someone no older than 36-37 max. Any more age difference than that is just uncomfortable. What's weird is thinking that as you age, the normal age of your dating partners shouldn't change at all.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/02/24 08:52 PM
3	How do you avoid desperation and despair as you get older? Lol are you implying that a woman over 30 can’t be attractive even in an average, unintimidating way? Because that’s what a “girl next door” is. To clarify, if you’re 22, i wouldn’t expect you to view a 33 year old as a potential girlfriend. But if you’re 35, then yes she’s your peer and in your dating pool.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/02/24 07:24 PM
5	How do you avoid desperation and despair as you get older? That’s really not a helpful mindset. Anyone over 30/dating people over 30 should be aware of higher rates of mental issues/dysfunction in that dating pool, but there are a multitude of reasons a woman can be attractive and single in her 30s. Just got out of a relationship/divorced, intensive education/work (such as doctors who don’t finish residency until around 30), health issues, caring for family, unpredictable work schedule, limited dating pool due to religious beliefs, or just haven’t met t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/02/24 07:04 PM
3	How do you avoid desperation and despair as you get older? I definitely relate to those feelings, although from a woman’s perspective. Around 2020 when I first tried online dating seriously, things seemed different and more promising, but perhaps it’s gotten to the point where too many people have become jaded to dating apps or simply been burned too badly by people on them, now that they’ve been mainstream for several years. I cope by getting a lot of fulfillment from my line of work and investing in my close friendships. That’s basically where I put a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/02/24 06:54 PM
1	Why do women here consistently portray men's dating preferences as malicious and their own as benign? Maybe not common outside of religion, but it’s more the norm in certain churches and religions. You just have to find a group with similar values. But if you’re agnostic or atheist I agree it might be kind of difficult. Although I don’t date women so the only women I know much about are those I go to church with/work around.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/02/24 03:03 AM
1	Have tradcons taken over the redpill? And I say it as a semi young person who is living differently. I won’t be a part of problematic behavior even if it’s prevalent.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/24 07:18 PM
1	Have tradcons taken over the redpill? Yeah except they’re nowhere near as rare as you’re making out, and that’s not what you said in your original comment. My first relationship ended due to religious differences (aka I wasn’t willing to dress like a Mennonite or stop celebrating Christmas like he believed), second was just a mutual fizzle out/ideological differences since he was an antivax chiropractor who didn’t believe in evidence based medicine, which is central to my career, and third ended after a conversation about him being …	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/24 04:35 PM
1	Have tradcons taken over the redpill? Damn, that's a weak argument. You're claiming that 100% of straight men would engage in hookup culture if they could. You're claiming there is not a single straight man alive who values ANYTHING more than sex - not religion, not his own moral code, not his time, his job, his health, anything. Oops, Tim Tebow exists. And unless you want to claim without any reason that he lied about saving himself for marriage, your claim of 100% just got disproved. Short of someone wearing a body cam their entir…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/24 03:38 PM
1	Have tradcons taken over the redpill? The question to ask yourself always is, what kind of a world would I live in if everyone behaved the way I do? If it’s a great world, you are doing the right thing. If it would be a world with some serious issues, then that’s reason to reconsider.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/24 02:54 PM
1	Have tradcons taken over the redpill? That’s cope, but keep telling yourself that	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/24 02:42 PM
2	Have tradcons taken over the redpill? I mean.. I’m really not trying to get semantic but saying that only the top 20% of men are hooking up at all seems very arbitrary and unenforceable. It’s not like you have to have a permit to hook up or something. My impression working with the general population is that the majority of people who are fairly average or even below average in appearance and personality have partners or are sexually active. Past 25-30 years old, certainly you do not have 80% of men being celibate. You may say “well…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/24 07:06 AM
3	Have tradcons taken over the redpill? It’s really too bad. People have this misconception that happiness is obtained by the sum of lots of little pleasure-seeking choices, and really it’s not. Religion just seeks to teach people a better way to live, but natural consequences still exist regardless of whether or not a person is religious. In other words, everyone should recognize that a hedonistic lifestyle carries negative consequences in this lifetime, not just religious people. But most people aren’t living for anything more than …	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/24 06:44 AM
1	Have tradcons taken over the redpill? What part of my comment are you disagreeing with? Are you saying that all women participate in casual sex? Because that’s not true. Some do, and I never denied that. I simply believe it’s bad for them, the people involved, and society as a whole. What other people choose to do has no bearing on the choices I make for myself. It also has no impact on the choices you make for yourself. If everyone else is jumping off a cliff, I’m not going to jump unless I’ve decided it’s the right thing for me to…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/24 06:07 AM
4	Have tradcons taken over the redpill? Why are you acting like participating in hook up culture is a privilege or something good? Just because you weren’t able to doesn’t mean you missed out on something good or wholesome for you. And yes, men who are desirable enough to get casual sex and then actually pursue that don’t respect women in the first place. The whole premise of casual sex is that two people are objectifying one another and using the other’s body for sexual gratification. It has nothing to do with honoring that person’s …	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/24 08:17 PM
4	Have tradcons taken over the redpill? I’m not sure I follow you fully, but I’m interested to understand what you’re saying.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/24 07:22 PM
9	Have tradcons taken over the redpill? Do you think a man would ever come to the conclusion that his own participation in hookup culture is a problem? I think hookup culture is gross, but it’s strange to act like men leave that culture due to being disgusted by women who hook up. Both the men and women who participate in it are degrading themselves and are contributing to the problem. Part of being an adult is taking accountability for your own actions and your own part in making the world a worse place, not simply placing all the bl…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/24 07:20 PM
1	Why do men not tell other men to be vulnerable, AND, why do women tell men to be more vulnerable, en masse? Vulnerability is like inviting someone into your home. Hospitality is a positive thing, a kindness. Vulnerability is the emotional version of hospitality. What a person sees when they enter your home is another matter. Have you made efforts to clean and tidy your home to welcome them? Perhaps there is something good smelling coming from the kitchen. Hopefully- but it’s possible you may see a messy interior or signs of underlying chaos or depression like trash everywhere or dishes in the sink. Th…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/24 02:23 PM
1	Why do men not tell other men to be vulnerable, AND, why do women tell men to be more vulnerable, en masse? Honestly that’s really not a great synthesis of what I said. Do you actually disagree with what I’m saying? Or do you just dislike the implications? A) who said anything about a meme. There was nothing silly or lighthearted about the conversation I had with my ex. It was a moment where I realized here a person was, sharing something that was hard for him to work through and that he hadn’t opened up to almost anyone about/fully processed. So your rudeness and downplaying that is not appreciated. …	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/01/24 08:17 PM
2	Why do men not tell other men to be vulnerable, AND, why do women tell men to be more vulnerable, en masse? It depends who you’re dating. I’ve never “told men” to be vulnerable, but I know for a fact that when vulnerability is done right, it increases the connection that I have with a guy. I fell for my last ex boyfriend after he opened up to me about some particular struggles he had being an Albanian in the U.S., especially knowing that it wasn’t something he’d talked to many people about. Especially when someone is usually very stoic, but you see they are willing to open up and trust you, it feels l…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/01/24 03:59 PM
1	Women on Reddit do not represent normal, every day girls and so the dialogue and “blue pill” opinions here are irrelevant to most men The thought in your first paragraph is an example of wrong redpill dogma. I’ve seen it frequently said here that “women make certain men wait for sex, while they hooked up with others before.” You said to me “you wouldn’t wait with everyone.” And that’s where Redpill is wrong, because I follow my religion which tells me not to do sexual stuff before marriage. I have never made an exception for anyone I’ve dated because I respect God and see the wisdom in waiting. I’ll hug and kiss to show affect…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/01/24 02:42 PM
7	Women on Reddit do not represent normal, every day girls and so the dialogue and “blue pill” opinions here are irrelevant to most men To be clear, red pill means different things to different people. In the statement you quoted, I’m speaking of people who make extreme, absolute statements about the nature of “all men” and “all women,” deny that the opposite sex has any members who aren’t selfish and superficial, and treat people as pawns in a game of life to be manipulated to their own end. It’s certainly a spectrum on here.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/01/24 02:51 AM
3	Women on Reddit do not represent normal, every day girls and so the dialogue and “blue pill” opinions here are irrelevant to most men Oh yeah, my first boyfriend was in that cult (he was friends with the Duggars actually). I did my time in the fundiesnark/duggarsnark subs. I think that was actually how I got on Reddit haha. Quite the fascinating rabbit hole!	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/01/24 12:52 AM
–	Women wearing revealing clothing No, I actually didn’t even know the source, just the quote, but looked it up to give credit. I’ll have to check out his work! Any place you recommend starting?	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/01/24 10:31 PM
2	Women on Reddit do not represent normal, every day girls and so the dialogue and “blue pill” opinions here are irrelevant to most men Dude.. you can WANT physical intimacy without yet having gone all the way. A first date can be romantic without having had sex yet. The romance doesn’t start at the time of physical intimacy, but at the point that two people who have a mutual attraction start interacting with each other. Some people literally marry before sex. You think they don’t have romantic love and sexual desire that’s going to be consummated after the wedding? Until recently, that order of events was somewhat common. To yo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/01/24 09:49 PM
6	Women on Reddit do not represent normal, every day girls and so the dialogue and “blue pill” opinions here are irrelevant to most men Your first paragraph is you saying you don’t understand romance apart from physical intimacy. What I’m speaking of is emotions. If you have a desire to be with someone, think they’re attractive and interesting, flirt with them, whatever, that’s a romantic connection even if you haven’t been physical yet. Your second paragraph is circular reasoning. You are basically saying, “redpill isn’t immoral, because it is the truth about what women want, and you can’t object to the truth.” You’re simply ma…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/01/24 09:01 PM
9	Women on Reddit do not represent normal, every day girls and so the dialogue and “blue pill” opinions here are irrelevant to most men Dating is more than being friends, at least in my book! But maybe romance is dead on this subreddit… I want people to be happy and successful in dating! Redpill may be one way of attaining sexual “success,” just as being a computer hacker or dealing drugs are ways to achieve financial success. Just because you get a woman to have sex with you, doesn’t mean you did it in a way that is good for her mental well being, your mental well-being, or society. I want people to achieve success as a result …	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/01/24 08:24 PM
2	Women on Reddit do not represent normal, every day girls and so the dialogue and “blue pill” opinions here are irrelevant to most men Oh, I’m aware, trust me	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/01/24 07:54 PM
13	Women on Reddit do not represent normal, every day girls and so the dialogue and “blue pill” opinions here are irrelevant to most men Correct, although I don’t know why you’re surprised about that. Not everyone thinks sex should be casual and some people actually believe in formal commitment before sex. All I mean by redpill is the typical “all women just want X, all men just want X” blanket statements of dogma that people in these communities spout. Not everyone believes that, and plenty of people would be turned off to hear that a friend or partner thought that way. There actually are lots of people who wouldn’t agree with t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/01/24 07:52 PM
9	Women on Reddit do not represent normal, every day girls and so the dialogue and “blue pill” opinions here are irrelevant to most men I may have inadvertently caused a wound to a narcissistic ego ;)	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/01/24 07:30 PM
15	Women on Reddit do not represent normal, every day girls and so the dialogue and “blue pill” opinions here are irrelevant to most men Success is either a successful long term relationship, or perhaps for some people, casual sexual intimacy. By that standard, dude in question was not successful. The red pill aspect actually worked against him. None of my actual past boyfriends were redpill or misogynistic.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/01/24 07:18 PM
21	Women on Reddit do not represent normal, every day girls and so the dialogue and “blue pill” opinions here are irrelevant to most men Haha. I know we’ve encountered each other on here before. That situationship was a whole can of worms, but in short, I was interested in him for reasons other than his undisclosed misogynistic views. We both enjoy reading and had a lot of interesting intellectual conversations. But you always have this sixth sense when someone has things they aren’t telling you, or is being fake at some level. And I could tell there was an element of being performative that was off putting. Eventually I realized…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/01/24 07:02 PM
20	Women on Reddit do not represent normal, every day girls and so the dialogue and “blue pill” opinions here are irrelevant to most men No, I’ve met reasonable people on here and learned some things that have modified my opinions. But yeah anything radical is fascinating, like people who buy into crazy conspiracies. Not a personal attack against anyone on here so don’t take it as such!	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/01/24 06:54 PM
14	Women on Reddit do not represent normal, every day girls and so the dialogue and “blue pill” opinions here are irrelevant to most men My views are solidly moderate, certainly not at the radical end of feminism or MRAs, and they’ve stayed that way. I figured purple pill was the best label for that, denoting moderation. But even if I don’t agree, I think I have a better understanding. And I’ve come to appreciate some things about problems with the family court system, as well as systematic double standards a number of women hold. I don’t keep double standards personally and wasn’t aware of how common it is.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/01/24 06:52 PM
41	Women on Reddit do not represent normal, every day girls and so the dialogue and “blue pill” opinions here are irrelevant to most men My reason for being here isn’t that I can’t find a boyfriend. It’s that I found out a guy I dated was red pill from his Twitter, hated women, etc, and was driven to this forum out of a fascination to understand what makes people think this way. It’s a space to try to change the minds or at least debate against people you think have a warped idea of reality. To me, truly red pilled people are fascinating in the same way narcissists, psychopaths, and true crime is fascinating - I want to understan…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/01/24 05:54 PM
–	Women wearing revealing clothing Lol, had to comment for solidarity since no one else had. Lots of people here are confused and just calibrated to problematic social norms. To quote Jiddu Krishnamurti, “It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society.”	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/01/24 03:51 PM
–	Women wearing revealing clothing I think the key disconnect is that people do not understand that what she’s wearing is a sexy outfit. In their mind, nothing is sexy until they want it to be, and nothing they wear around family can be sexual. If you extend that reasoning, then it shouldn’t be awkward for your mom to walk in on you and your spouse being intimate. But it is, and we all know that. To be consistent, other things with sexual overtones should also be viewed as awkward and embarrassing when done around family. Immodes…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/01/24 03:21 PM
–	Women wearing revealing clothing I wouldn’t do it. For the same reason that I would have been mortified if my brothers saw me changing or vice versa. The outfits in the video are clearly sexy, so it’s weird to dress like that for her family. It’s not that your male family members are going to think sexual thoughts about you, but it’s still awkward and uncomfortable to present yourself that way. It’s a lesser version of the ick of discussing your sex life with your family. Everyone has different boundaries but I want no part of …	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/01/24 02:41 PM
–	Women wearing revealing clothing For one, no need to be hostile. For two, I’m just sharing my thoughts on the general question of modesty. I haven’t watched any “source material” you may be referring to, and I don’t know who “she” is. Edit: Okay I found and watched the video. I definitely wouldn’t dress like that around family or at the beach. The shorts I talked about wearing to the beach are not spandex and do not outline my butt. If I do wear anything spandex it’s going to be black and at least mid thigh and not cinch to hig…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/01/24 02:19 PM
-2	Women wearing revealing clothing Well, after perusing these responses, let me be the first woman to say I agree with you wholeheartedly. It’s not PC to express any opinion other than “women should dress in any way they like.” Ahh, how society lacks any sense of nuance. Let people scamper around nearly nude without any side eye or else you’re a dirty minded pervert. I disagree. People have lost their sense of modesty, and it’s unflattering. No need to be in a burka or anything, but maybe don’t show your entire butt. If I go to t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/01/24 05:18 AM
11	How important Is losing virginity for women now? Same 🤝 combination of my religious beliefs and knowing I tend to attach way too hard anyway. If sex were involved and the relationship ended, I would be devastated. I can only see myself being intimate within the security of marriage to someone who is committed to remaining together and working on our relationship rather than divorcing.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/01/24 07:08 PM
6	Do you believe life is generally easier as a single person? I agree with you. I mean I’m single at 31 so not much to talk, but I’m certainly not caught up in any major red flag stuff, more just someone who got a late start, focused a lot on education, and had a slightly oppressively strict upbringing. But I’m sure men who are looking for women my age feel similarly about their options.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/01/24 07:59 AM
2	Do you believe life is generally easier as a single person? Just gonna make the general observation that many men who have the right personality and traits to be a good partner marry off before age 30. As you age, the relative percentage of duds in the dating pool increases. The whole concept that if you are still single at a certain age, something is probably wrong/dysfunctional with you or you’re not a relationship oriented person. Not always true, but frequently true.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/01/24 03:56 AM
0	Why do women here consistently portray men's dating preferences as malicious and their own as benign? No, because they insist on being the ones to pay when I do offer. I frequently treat my friends though now that I’m finally comfortable financially. It’s nice being able to share :) I also show generosity in relationships in other ways. But traditional guys want to pay for outings, and I’m okay with that because I’m pretty traditional myself.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/01/24 03:07 AM
-3	Why do women here consistently portray men's dating preferences as malicious and their own as benign? Yeah that’s the thing. Not that I’ve ever been on a date with a man who thought that way, but just so unattractive. I’ll literally give $20 to a homeless person or someone who needs gas without a second thought. I give easily whenever the opportunity presents itself. Anyone who can afford to eat can save up enough money to pay for one extra meal/coffee/etc if they are interested in potentially dating someone. It’s not a matter of ability to be generous, but willingness to be generous, even in a …	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/01/24 10:32 PM
3	Why do women here consistently portray men's dating preferences as malicious and their own as benign? Do you want a traditional woman? Then rather than date women who portray liberal/progressive traits, only date women who seem conservatively minded. And act like a traditional man in that relationship, and don’t complain about paying for her. A mistake would be to date a girl who doesn’t show much decorum, and then complain that she is who she is, when you chose to pursue her.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/01/24 10:22 PM
2	California Online Dating Safety Act: Thoughts Doesn’t matter. If someone’s okay with dating a legally married person, then so be it, but that’s not an argument against transparency. It would just mean that married people couldn’t hide that fact.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/01/24 04:38 AM
1	What societal scenario would make redpilled men happy? Okay, that’s just seems like a random single criteria. Like it’s valid to refuse to settle for other criteria like personality or looks, but not financial reasons. I’m not advocating anybody be a gold digger. But personally I’d need to be with someone who made at least a similar amount as me.. it would feel weird being the major breadwinner in a relationship because I’m not trying to be “more successful” financially than my man.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/01/24 02:46 AM
1	What societal scenario would make redpilled men happy? So who is the group you’re referring to as living in quiet desperation? If you’re not referring to women who staying single because they can’t find a partner they actually want to be with?	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/01/24 10:27 PM
4	What societal scenario would make redpilled men happy? Sure I’d prefer a good and meaningful life over one of quiet desperation too. But it sounds like you’re making the unfounded conclusion that marriage (even if it’s not your ideal marriage) = good life and singleness = quiet desperation. It’s actually think it’s more often the other way around. Ideal marriage > singleness > non ideal marriage.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/01/24 07:37 PM
2	Why does it seem like progressiveness towards the gender roles only apply toward women? I don’t have a problem with the idea of 50/50, but if anything, when discussing all American women ages 25-60, I think the majority are accustomed to a man typically paying on dates if he was the one to offer and invite them out. There may be a solid minority of 25-60 women who prefer splitting every bill, but it’s far from the “vast majority.” Also, <25s and those solidly in Gen Z tend to have 50/50 preferences. So I wouldn’t group that in with millennials and older generations.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/01/24 07:36 PM
2	The logical origin of the argument “he should have worn a condom” or “he should have kept it in his pants” is actually “she should have just been abstinent”. Why do makers of the former claims not understand the argument they are actually making? I don’t understand your choice of phrasing or the point you are trying to make. Adults are not in sex Ed classes. They are not being “peddled” teaching on abstinence. Also, adults engaging in intercourse should both be prepared for the possibility of pregnancy, which is always present. It’s not a shock if it happens. So yes, if you 100% don’t want to deal with pregnancy, both partners should keep their pants on.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/01/24 08:14 PM
1	The logical origin of the argument “he should have worn a condom” or “he should have kept it in his pants” is actually “she should have just been abstinent”. Why do makers of the former claims not understand the argument they are actually making? What is abstinence peddling? As any sane person knows, abstinence is the only 100% effective method of birth control. That’s a statistical fact as there are failures with any other method. People are free to choose the level of risk they would like, counterbalancing that with their desire to be intimate. What do you mean by abstinence peddling other than sharing the facts? People should have accurate education and not be misled to think that other methods of birth control are 100% effective. IUD…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/01/24 07:54 PM
2	If you woke up tomorrow as the opposite sex, and knew you would never go back, how would your views change? That person above you made a great observation and you didn’t answer it very directly. Basically, if you were a woman you’d be the kind of woman your current ideology considers disreputable, right? I don’t say this to be rude, even though it may sound rude, but your perspective really seems as though you don’t have a mix of priorities and valued goals in life, just one goal: have sex. Maybe… maybe that’s the value system that led to the emergence of this school of thought. I’ve been so confused …	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/01/24 06:55 AM
7	Where is the incentive for a woman to be submissive? Exactly. If men want to be in that leadership position/dynamic.. well guess who has to lead by example in any well-functioning organization or family unit. Yep, the man. Basically, men need to start the chain of events by being the type of person who is enjoyable to be around and submit to. Then, once that part of the dynamic is in place, the woman will enjoy leaning into the more supportive/submissive role. The key is that you have to make people want to follow you. And if you don’t know how to…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/01/24 02:08 AM
1	Can advocates of casual sex propose it’s merits? Chill out young grasshopper	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/01/24 12:13 AM
1	Can advocates of casual sex propose it’s merits? I’m the only one out of my siblings who didn’t completely toss away what I was raised believing about sex and religion. And I’m absolutely not sorry for still thinking that way, nor do I hold my views as someone who hasn’t seen and lived in the world. It’s my own view now, one retained intentionally, not obeyed mindlessly. Evolving out of previous beliefs is only progress if the initial beliefs were wrong, and on that we disagree. As far as limiting my dating pool, that’s fine. I want to be with…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/01/24 10:28 PM
0	Can advocates of casual sex propose it’s merits? I’m not the one insulting OP for having higher standards, that’s on you. His standards are still higher than yours, even if yours aren’t rock bottom. To insinuate that he’s immature for not championing casual sex is a really bad take.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/01/24 10:03 PM
1	Can advocates of casual sex propose it’s merits? You’re making the assumption that every person’s goal for their sexuality should be to spread it around as much as possible. That’s not my goal nor a potential I’m aiming for. My ideal sexual potential is one supportive partner for life, and I do view sex as sacred. So at a bare minimum, keep in mind that others have different goals for their life than you do, and different views of sexuality. Nothing makes your view the “right one.”	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/01/24 09:59 PM
-2	Can advocates of casual sex propose it’s merits? OP, you’re completely correct in your view of casual sex. Don’t be discouraged by the naysayers on this thread who I’m sure will downvote me as they downvoted you. Not everyone is living by a higher moral code. Lots of people live like slightly more advanced versions of animals, and would gladly admit that’s all they think they are. Pleasure is the driving factor, and most adults aren’t willing to deny themselves a dopamine hit. Regardless, you will not regret living your life for better things …	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/01/24 09:54 PM
-3	Can advocates of casual sex propose it’s merits? Yeah, because delayed gratification and self-control is such an immature trait 🙄	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/01/24 09:47 PM
1	I am thoroughly confused by the current sexual landscape. The more you talk, the more your absolute ignorance becomes apparent. Literally the only thing I’ve argued is that STDs are still a problem and medicine is not a magic bullet, therefore people should still try not to contract STDs. Hot take I know. I’m such a dang puritan along with all those folks at the public health department😔 It’s a free country and natural selection is at work as always.. so keep honing those black and white thinking skills and living your best life :)	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/01/24 04:51 PM
2	I am thoroughly confused by the current sexual landscape. Oh.. I know. You just see so much stupidity in my field that sometimes it feels satisfying to be able to explain the facts bluntly online, a little more bluntly than you can in a professional context. I never expected this dude to be able to absorb any of it. His post history checks out. Thank God for the blur 🤢	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/01/24 06:59 AM
1	I am thoroughly confused by the current sexual landscape. Lol. Of course I am biased. But facts are facts and I’m not bringing my religion into this conversation, you’re the one doing that. Honestly sounds like you have a chip on your shoulder against religion or don’t think there are any reasons other than religion not to be a complete hoe. I’m not “afraid” of anyone’s consenting adult activities, just in favor of people not making stupid decisions that will later bring them to my ER, taking time away from people who are having actual medical emergenc…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/01/24 06:07 AM
1	I am thoroughly confused by the current sexual landscape. Your lack of nuance is really something. If you think the existence of those medications means people aren’t contracting and suffering from the effects of STDs today, well I can guarantee you don’t work in medicine. Nothing I’ve said has literally anything to do with religion, much less Christianity specifically, much less the hyper specific idea referred to as purity culture. It’s as simple as, don’t have unsafe sexual practices, because it’s bad for your health, bad for your kids born out of w…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/01/24 05:23 AM
2	I am thoroughly confused by the current sexual landscape. No you don’t have it straight. You are deeply confused. Of course I am aware of all those medications, don’t be an idiot. You’re the one apparently stupid enough to think that the existence of medication makes STIs a complete non-issue. Of course, the reason you have such an idiotic opinion is that you CLEARLY have no formal education on medical matters. And like most people, consider your opinion equal to that of a trained medical professional based on your own informal research. Prevention is …	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/01/24 04:11 AM
2	I am thoroughly confused by the current sexual landscape. Dude I’m a full on healthcare provider in the US with a graduate level degree. Treating people with STDs is part of my job. Don’t even start with this as though you have anything to teach me about medical matters. Don’t get me wrong, lots of STDs are more manageable than they’ve been. The drugs are extremely expensive however and noncompliance is rampant. Contracting HIV isn’t a death sentence but it is absolutely a life sentence. And don’t act like I’m out of touch with the worlds problems when…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/01/24 03:35 AM
2	I am thoroughly confused by the current sexual landscape. I think this comment may have just convinced me that my time on this sub needs to end. This is a tragically bad take. Statistically, no single or step parent situation has outcomes even comparable to a child living from 0-18 with their two biological parents. So yeah, committed individuals married and raising children together are the bedrock of society. Single parent homes raise dysfunctional kids with far higher rates of mental illness and criminal activity who go out and look for love and acc…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/01/24 01:01 AM
–	What all women want This post wasn’t about what women want, but the phrasing “all women” and generalizations like that.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/01/24 09:28 AM
–	What all women want I find that scenario hard to imagine in the way you stated it, but I suppose that person is still better off in every way than if they’d remained at their starting point	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/01/24 09:24 AM
–	What all women want My point is that it’s not unreasonable to encourage others to do things for intrinsic reward. It’s no skin off my back either way. But doing the right thing makes you a better quality of person, and that is a reward in itself. Outcomes are never guaranteed. That doesn’t mean there isn’t an optimal way to live.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/01/24 09:20 AM
–	What all women want Are you blind? I said in my comment that I did not end any of the relationships. Or want them to end for that matter	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/01/24 09:17 AM
–	What all women want You really do not read do you? I literally said I did not dump any of them	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/01/24 09:15 AM
–	What all women want Wrong interpretation. There are some things you can’t control, and some things you can. Your life will be better if you choose to focus on the subset of things within your control. I’m not saying “your situation is entirely your fault.” I’m saying some factors are within your power to control. But yes, it’s easier to brush off everything as out of your hands and live as a complete victim.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/01/24 09:14 AM
–	What all women want So many things would be rational with qualifiers- in general, women prefer men who are in good shape physically, have reasonable means, and are at least a few inches taller than them. But of my 3 boyfriends, none of which I dumped or cheated on, 2 were under 6 feet, none had 6 packs, and only 1 made 6 figures. And I was very happy in those relationships while they lasted.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/01/24 09:06 AM
–	What all women want Clearly the entire message of my post went over your head. Nothing you have said in any way refutes my post. You’ve simply made an unsubstantiated claim. Can’t cure everyone’s illogical thinking though, so if you’re not going to be rational I’ll stick with talking to people who demonstrate good sense.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/01/24 08:58 AM
–	What all women want Thank you for sharing this original thought so that we here could all digest it	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/01/24 08:52 AM
–	What all women want You didn’t answer my question. To make it personal, rather than 3rd person, do you ever do things out of self motivation because it’s the right thing to do? So that you can be proud of yourself and experience character growth?	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/01/24 08:49 AM
–	What all women want What is your point? Yes, people are incentivized to be better when they want to impress someone, or when they want to get a certain school acceptance, career, promotion, etc. that fact doesn’t pertain to the question I asked you.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/01/24 08:39 AM
–	What all women want Is there any intrinsic benefit to living in such a way that you’re proud of your choices? Is that benefit only relevant if it gains you a partner?	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/01/24 08:18 AM
–	What all women want I see your point, although I think it would be very difficult to cite academic sources. Coming from a background in research (biology), I can’t help but feel that unlike concrete biological topics, social questions are far more difficult to accurately control for/study since there are so many confounding variables and the results don’t always generalize the way some want to apply them. Frankly half the people in this sub don’t even have common sense, and you have to have quite a bit more than pl…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/01/24 08:15 AM
–	What all women want Logically though, we aren’t arguing whether men or women have greater variability than the other. Simply, all individuals are distinct. No human is exactly alike. 2 million may be a larger number than 1 million, but you are still wealthy if you make $1 million dollars a year. Both men and women are highly diverse, even if you are correct that men are more highly diverse.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/01/24 07:52 AM
–	What all women want Exactly. Focus on things that can be improved. The inspiration for this post was seeing a claim that “personality doesn’t matter” (i.e., women, don’t care about it). Easier to claim that than to do the hard work of improving personality flaws. Embracing your ability to change for the better is actually empowering. And that change WILL matter to any partner you’d want to be with.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/01/24 07:09 AM
4	Fun hypothetical, here are some options you can choose from to fix dating Most people want partners and most people are straight, so anything other than a 1:1 ratio isn’t good for society. Just look at china where there aren’t as many women as men. But fortunately this will never be the case.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/01/24 04:05 AM
2	I Think It’s Okay To Reject A Girl Based On Her Weight. Dude what are you even talking about. You’re the one not understanding that people have no obligation to date people they aren’t attracted to.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/01/24 09:18 PM
7	What Makes You a Top 1% Woman for a Top 1% Man? Exactly. If you are a white upper class woman in America, you are not rubbing shoulders with large groups of Hispanic blue collar men. So your pool of dating partners is not “everyone” it’s upper class men, many of whom will statistically be white and on average 5’9” or 5’10”+. Shorter Hispanic or Asian men typically date from their female peers who are shorter than they are. I have nothing against interracial relationships, but statistically this is what happens.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/01/24 05:49 AM
3	Make up and women I’m not talking about confrontation. I’m saying you’ve never heard real women saying stuff like that. It’s internet rage baiting/extremist behavior. If we based any view solely off the internet it would be “off” compared to polling the general population. Do you want your date to pay, or just offer to pay? I’ve definitely offered to pay on some dates, but often the waiter will just give the guy the check and he pulls out his card immediately to pay. It’s in poor taste to try to stage a discussio…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/01/24 08:21 PM
4	Make up and women This comes off like you don’t talk to real women and your opinions are based off of studying women on tik tok.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/01/24 02:23 PM
6	Make up and women My makeup costs about $40 a year, with use most days. I wear the same thing every day, including maybe a little extra eyeshadow on dates. Who pays for the date has nothing to do with the cost of my makeup. Every guy I have dated has insisted on being the one to pay. I’ve even been told I shouldn’t have split the check when it came while the guy was in the restroom and I split it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/01/24 02:20 PM
1	How many men here would agree to be homemakers, caregivers AND breadwinners as many married women are? You know what’s unattractive? Walking around life with a chip on your shoulder and a victim mentality. Consider for a moment that there are groups of women and minorities who also make victimhood a focus in their identity. Christians can have that victim mentality too sometimes. And yet you as a man want to focus on the ways in which you feel life has shorted you. I guarantee with that attitude, you’d be doing the exact same thing in a different scenario no matter what race or sex you were born …	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/01/24 08:04 PM
–	Women will sabotage you talking to their friends without hesitation, and regardless of what anyone says it is usually against their will Me having a conversation with another redditor that is not specific to the post is not a “red herring” or a violation of any Reddit etiquette. Branching ideas is literally how conversation flows. Please get over yourself. Also me: “IF you choose to get offended…” You: “says the one… claiming I was offended” No, no i did not. Happy to quote that back to back since you clearly don’t read carefully.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/01/24 10:03 AM
–	Women will sabotage you talking to their friends without hesitation, and regardless of what anyone says it is usually against their will I don’t know what you’re on about. If you choose to get offended by me simply expressing agreement with a general observation made by another commenter, it’s a free country, be offended. Neither of our statements are specifically related to the post, not that it matters. I don’t understand why you’re stuck on that point. You’re forgetting a very important reason people continue conversations in social settings: to be polite. Not everyone has the social graces to break off a conversation in a way…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/01/24 08:56 AM
–	Women will sabotage you talking to their friends without hesitation, and regardless of what anyone says it is usually against their will Reread my comment. I said nothing about the post or OP. I was amused by the accurate observations of the commenter I replied to RE blanket statements by men about what women “must be thinking” being made on this forum, which happens constantly. Also, what? You think that if a woman is talking to you at a bar, she is 100% interested? I can’t believe I’m breaking this down, but it could be anything from polite conversation/being social, mild interest which faded away in the first 30 seconds of sen…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/01/24 08:17 AM
3	How many men here would agree to be homemakers, caregivers AND breadwinners as many married women are? Hahaha.. that’s rich. And whether or not you believe the implications of your statement above, you should still thank your wife.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/01/24 03:27 AM
–	Women will sabotage you talking to their friends without hesitation, and regardless of what anyone says it is usually against their will Underrated comment 😂 I don’t even bother pushing back on the ridiculous claims that men on the internet who have never met me know my thoughts better than I do	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/01/24 02:28 AM
1	The more you meet women, the more you realize they're all the same All women who are moderately attractive and up have insta thot personalities? Have you been drinking?	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/01/24 02:12 AM
8	The more you meet women, the more you realize they're all the same This is exactly it. He is going for women in a very specific age range (I’m going to guess 20-23 ish) who have a specific look (I’m going to guess “instagram beauty standards”) with lip fillers and that whole khardashian-esque presentation. If you pick people who have the look that ultra basic conformist women are aiming for, they may very well all be very basic and unoriginal in their personality. Pick women who look different, attractive in a unique/individual way, and who express whether onli…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/01/24 02:08 AM
2	Why would conservative women be more happy ? I don’t think they are that happy. I grew up very conservative and have witnessed an immense amount of dysfunction in conservative families (plenty of good ones too - depends on the individuals involved - but there are many mentally unhealthy individuals who identify as conservative). I’m solidly moderate and want a relationship in which both partners love and respect each other, yet the man skews more towards traditional masculine tendencies and the woman is more feminine. I.e. wife does more o…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/01/24 06:55 AM
5	Uncomfortable Red Pill Facts, yes from multiple studies, For Women. Ladies please explain! You found 50% attractive?? I’m impressed. I wish I was attracted to that many men. For me it’s most of the same filters as you (no bio, unsure/casual vibe, looks like an fboy, super conservative/liberal) and that eliminated a lot. But then out of the remainder, many are overweight or not my type unfortunately. I was literally wanting to connect with maybe 1-2 men out of 100. But I’m off the apps now.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/12/23 07:00 AM
3	The talking point that "older men prey on young girls because older women are less willing to put up with their bullshit" misses the mark. How narrow minded of you to think that productivity and zest for life are mutually exclusive. Like attracts like, and for me that is a reassuring thought! Equally narrow minded that you think the only way for a woman to have a meaningful life is by fulfilling certain relationship markers of marriage, children, or being a stay at home mom. I never said I defined my life by material markers of success. Success can look very different for a 30 year old women. It could involve being an awesome wife …	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/12/23 09:02 PM
6	The talking point that "older men prey on young girls because older women are less willing to put up with their bullshit" misses the mark. That's hilarious that you think a 30 year old man who smokes weed every day, plays video games, and has a mattress on the floor is equally a "failure" as a 30 year old woman with no children, no debt, a nice well kept apartment, and a successful career. Clown logic.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/12/23 04:04 PM
2	The talking point that "older men prey on young girls because older women are less willing to put up with their bullshit" misses the mark. Your last sentence.. you think a man who acts irresponsible, has a mattress on the floor, and generally behaves at a 19 yo maturity level is equal to ANY woman who has not had children past say 30? What a clown. No, the counterpart to a responsible, single woman age 30+ without children is a single, responsible man age 30+ without children who has invested a similar level into his education, fitness, finances, and living arrangements. The parallel to the type of man described in the comment abov…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/12/23 03:59 PM
9	Why do women hate the "what do you bring to the table?" Fresh and fit sounds like a brand of healthy frozen dinners.. is this seriously a manosphere thing?	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/12/23 12:41 AM
4	Why do women hate the "what do you bring to the table?" Don’t bring common sense into this! ;)	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/12/23 12:39 AM
5	Why do women hate the "what do you bring to the table?" Very simple OP. Talk to and pursue women you would be excited to be with. If you need the other person to sell themselves to you, you clearly don’t appreciate what you perceive about them. Do us all a favor and don’t date people you think have nothing of value about them. This is a you problem of not knowing how to decide who to date.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/12/23 12:37 AM
1	Why men will judge your personality and character based on how you dress and act and why it makes complete rational sense to do so when choosing a 'wifey material' woman. The principles are: don’t involve other people besides your partner (by lusting after them via porn or actually acting out sexually) satisfy your partner’s needs and if your own needs exceed theirs, no harm/no foul in taking care of yourself if you’re not violating principle 1. But I’ve heard many cases where (usually guys) go off by themselves instead of meeting their partners needs and she feels less than and unhappy. Avoid that scenario; always make sure your partner feels loved/wanted/apprec…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/12/23 05:06 AM
1	Why men will judge your personality and character based on how you dress and act and why it makes complete rational sense to do so when choosing a 'wifey material' woman. I feel like these questions are getting a bit unnecessarily specific. At some point, the value of a debate is finite and I'm not going to divulge certain things on the internet just for the sake of a debate. Suffice it to say, if your partner is okay with something and you aren't bringing other individuals (actually or virtually) into the relationship, then it's on a case by case basis. I'm not in a position to dictate details like that, nor do I feel a need to say yes/no on everything, despite …	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/12/23 09:06 AM
1	Why men will judge your personality and character based on how you dress and act and why it makes complete rational sense to do so when choosing a 'wifey material' woman. IMO, can be unhealthy if it affects the amount of intimacy you have with your partner. There’s also the psychological aspect of if you’re fantasizing about your coworker.. not great. But no, it’s not the same as porn or cheating. I wouldn’t personally have an issue with my partner taking care of his own needs in that way if I couldn’t meet them, though I would hope he was thinking about me or at least not about someone else. I think we should look at evil as a spectrum. Fantasizing about someone…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/12/23 08:14 AM
1	Why men will judge your personality and character based on how you dress and act and why it makes complete rational sense to do so when choosing a 'wifey material' woman. Yeah intellectually honesty works up until the point that it actually would require a change in behavior. Not that there aren’t literally tons of reasons not to watch porn, but I’m sure none would be persuasive enough for someone who enjoys a regular porn habit. And that’s where my respect for people breaks down. Because they will be right there with you up until the point of actually agreeing- the point at which they’d have to actually change in a way that requires any kind of self-denial or ef…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/12/23 07:13 AM
1	Why men will judge your personality and character based on how you dress and act and why it makes complete rational sense to do so when choosing a 'wifey material' woman. Glad to hear it. I don't see that my reasoning is problematic. Arousal is always spontaneous/involuntary, however you want to put it. It's not a conscious decision to get an erection. If that spontaneous reaction happens as a result of you literally glancing at a certain woman in public and not actively entertaining any sexual fantasies - sure, by my account you haven't done anything wrong. Yes your brain triggered a reaction involuntarily based on visual input. If that reaction happens from you…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/12/23 06:33 AM
1	Why men will judge your personality and character based on how you dress and act and why it makes complete rational sense to do so when choosing a 'wifey material' woman. If I felt that this was an honest question, I might engage with you differently. But I'm going to turn it back to you in the form of a question. Do you see a difference between being attracted to someone out and about versus choosing to look up and turn on pornographic content? My answer: they are 2 different scenarios. One is random, the other deliberate. One, you have a choice to look away/not actively pursue a sexual train of thought. The other, the GOAL is a sexual train of thought. If you c…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/12/23 05:40 AM
0	Why men will judge your personality and character based on how you dress and act and why it makes complete rational sense to do so when choosing a 'wifey material' woman. I have no idea what men and women who watch porn think exactly. That's not the point. The point is that in some way, however you want to word it, they are identifying with and receiving sexual pleasure from what they are seeing. So whether you are conscious of what is going on or it's happening below your consciousness - the person who observes porn is having the same type of sexual response cycle/arousal that they would if they were actually about to have sex with a real person in front of them…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/12/23 04:58 AM
2	Why men will judge your personality and character based on how you dress and act and why it makes complete rational sense to do so when choosing a 'wifey material' woman. Are you saying both are harmful, to different degrees? Or are you saying that looking at porn has no negative effect on the relationship?	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/12/23 04:13 AM
–	We shouldn't believe in "pills" we should believe whatever makes us the happiest In the most neutral, non-offensive way possible, you seem troubled. Just the type of things you are saying comes across as poor quality of mental health. You may also be young.. but most people would understand that raising children is tough if done well, and children need mentally healthy parents who spend quality time with them. Anything else is going to adversely effect their development	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/12/23 03:34 AM
–	We shouldn't believe in "pills" we should believe whatever makes us the happiest Not really a relevant rebuttal. A relevant reply would be something that indicates you will be a good parent. Saying that many bad parents exists is irrelevant	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/12/23 03:21 AM
1	Why men will judge your personality and character based on how you dress and act and why it makes complete rational sense to do so when choosing a 'wifey material' woman. What is your point? A man looking at porn is fantasizing about being with that person. He wants to be with that other woman acting that stuff out. Mirror neurons or whatever. So he’s harming his relationship by cultivating an appetite that’s not legitimate. I’m not going to say porn is adultery. But it’s a step in the direction of the attitude that leads to adultery. Neither married man nor married women should go out and seek out flirtatious interactions with the opposite sex either. This is al…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/12/23 02:24 AM
2	Why men will judge your personality and character based on how you dress and act and why it makes complete rational sense to do so when choosing a 'wifey material' woman. Exactly! I can respect someone even if I disagree with them, if they live consistently with the standard they hold others to. But this “rules for me but not for thee” is pure insanity. I’m not promiscuous. I dress modestly. If I’m in a relationship I don’t have eyes for anyone else. Check. You won’t be dating me if you don’t hold yourself to the same standard. If you think I’ve done the “right thing” all these years just to get with someone who is going to cheat on me 8 months into our marriage,…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/12/23 02:16 AM
49	Why men will judge your personality and character based on how you dress and act and why it makes complete rational sense to do so when choosing a 'wifey material' woman. I weed out men who show higher than average tendencies toward lust and who seem, based on their behavior to need many different sexual outlets. I.e., thirsting after hundreds of women on Instagram, only fans, etc. why? Because I highly doubt they are going to magically change and be content with just me during a relationship. People whose sexual appetite is so out of control that it’s publicly discernible.. they are definitely in the upper percentages and therefore more risky for infidelity in m…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/12/23 11:05 PM
0	How does anyone connect if no one will chase? 😂	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/12/23 03:01 PM
1	Men Have Abandoned Women There are levels of reasoning. The easy way through life is generalizations - all men are this way, all republicans are racist, all democrats are morons. It’s easier, and mentally lazier, to generalize. It is harder to see every person, and every issue as distinct and worth evaluating independently. Two things can be true: women can be gullible more often than men, but not all women are gullible. A sex can have tendencies, but not every member of that sex is defined by that tendency. Beware of l…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/12/23 05:43 AM
2	Men Have Abandoned Women Always encouraging to see people of faith on here. While I wish everyone had a relationship with God, I wish that even those who did not could at least benefit from the principles about moral conduct that scripture teaches. So much pain and discord, seen in the jaded/disgruntled views expressed in this sub, results from the downstream effects of choices God calls sinful. Oftentimes when we haven’t seen the light, we see others shortcomings clearly, without seeing our own responsibility. Both men…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/12/23 05:21 AM
–	Women want to split housework and childrearing but don't want to compromise anywhere else Well for one. I’m not sexist and value men’s role in society. So I’m not seeing the world through the lens of “men bad” or thinking that way. Sure, the author may have been biased. I don’t know and didn’t read the article beyond the quotes here. Bias may be behind the word choice, but it can also be read as a non-derogatory use of the word “claim.” We don’t know for sure. But anyone who has a chip on their shoulder is likely to experience confirmation bias and pick up on their particular “-ism” …	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/12/23 05:54 AM
0	How does anyone connect if no one will chase? Yeah you’ve made your priorities very clear. Just wanted to spell out what you were implying, that’s it’s all about #1 <—narc alert	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/12/23 11:32 PM
3	Women want to split housework and childrearing but don't want to compromise anywhere else It’s understood that they are discussing the results of a self report survey. So it may be a bit of subconscious bias on the part of the writer, but like I said I don’t think they are using the dubious sense of the word claim. Like if I said, “Bob claims his daughter Sarah as a dependent,” I’m not casting doubt on Bob’s claim.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/12/23 11:06 PM
0	How does anyone connect if no one will chase? The best results for you, someone with a high desire for control/the upper hand. Not the best results for her.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/12/23 11:00 PM
2	Women generally don't consider a mans potential, and this is causing unhealthy imbalances in the dating market To be honest, I did not finish past about halfway through your post. I’m just stating my views on the topic at hand	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/12/23 08:05 PM
1	Women generally don't consider a mans potential, and this is causing unhealthy imbalances in the dating market There is truth to what you’re saying. The caveat - I would date a man whose current work ethic and behavior mean that he is likely to be successful down the road. He doesn’t have to have already made it, but he does have to presently have the types of behaviors and attitudes associated with success. “Potential for success” does not equal “potential to eventually develop work ethic and self-discipline.”	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/12/23 07:44 PM
7	Women want to split housework and childrearing but don't want to compromise anywhere else Lol. I see your point but I don't think they are using claim in the doubtful sense, probably just the sense of taking responsibility. It's a writing/English thing to vary your verbiage rather than copy/pasting the exact same structure. It would read less pleasingly if both clauses said "are responsible" or "claim responsibility." Obviously this is just a survey.. everything reported is just an unsubstantiated claim. From Merriam Webster: 3a: to assert in the face of possible contradiction : MAIN…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/12/23 07:24 PM
1	How does anyone connect if no one will chase? Sure, I'll spare insulting people when tact calls for it. Although there are usually ways to be tactful without actually lying, and that's what I default to. Perhaps I should say that I feel very guilty about saying anything that isn't true, and therefore only tell small lies, very rarely, if backed into a corner by social mores. even so, it's very rare. I would never lie to gain some personal advantage or just for the heck of it. I grew up with a sibling who lied habitually and is also a grandi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/12/23 07:14 PM
1	How does anyone connect if no one will chase? Your reasoning is just so bad. I would be embarrassed to make an argument purely based off unsubstantiated statements like in your first paragraph. You don’t seem to get my point, which is that deceptive and harmful behaviors are bad no matter who does them. I’m not condemning men, I’m condemning the behavior, so it’s irrelevant which gender does it more. They all need to shape up and stop! Lol. Well yes his options are to date women who want to date his age bracket or lie. But because he lied, …	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/12/23 06:52 PM
1	How does anyone connect if no one will chase? Label things what you want. Makeup, within a moderate amount, is not deceitful. It is standard. I would not be embarrassed to be seen without makeup, because I look very similar and am not hiding anything. I wear tinted sunscreen, blush, and mascara. That’s it. But if that’s the hill you want to die on, be my guest. If you have such a problem with makeup, I hope you are internally consistent with yourself and don’t date women who wear it. But I’m sure you do. I don’t have a problem with the word…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/12/23 06:38 PM
1	How does anyone connect if no one will chase? You’re setting up a false idea in which if some things that could be construed as “manipulation” are acceptable, then any type of manipulation is acceptable. It’s a classic case of getting hung up on words without differentiating the different meanings that words can encompass. If both people are fully aware of what is going on and okay with it, that’s not what I consider problematic manipulation. Both my date and I are okay with each other showering, grooming, and putting on clothes/makeup. In …	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/12/23 06:13 PM
2	How does anyone connect if no one will chase? Nope, any person can practice manipulation. I don’t date women so I can’t comment on women’s behaviors, all I know is that I strive to communicate openly with any man I date and reject men whose actions are calculated/game playing rather than sincere. We may be taking past each other. Needy behavior/desperation is a turn-off. A man being the one to initiate texts/dates/calls (a majority of the time) is attractive within the context of a dating relationship.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/12/23 05:25 PM
1	How does anyone connect if no one will chase? We call that “hot and cold” behavior in dating. I have cut things off with men I dated over them exhibiting hot and cold behavior. The last guy I dated went 2 days without texting me at all (this was after like 6 weeks of dating). After I got tired of this and ended it, I found his Twitter and discovered he was into redpill and had liked all sorts of tweets about ignoring women to make them to make them more interested. (That was how I discovered redpill and this sub.) This isn’t middle school. …	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/12/23 05:16 PM
-1	How does anyone connect if no one will chase? Nope, just trying to dispel the myth that women dislike men who pursue them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/12/23 05:00 PM
3	How does anyone connect if no one will chase? So sad yet fascinating to peer into the inner workings of a soul without a moral compass.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/12/23 09:02 AM
1	How does anyone connect if no one will chase? Relationships in which the man feels the need to have the upper hand work best for him when the woman loves him more. And vice versa for women. At some point, you fully love someone and it’s not a matter of degrees. You’re both fully in with each other. That’s the only kind of relationship I’d feel comfortable being a part of. Anything where one partner feels the need to have control/upper hand by loving less, that’s going to come at the psychological expense of the other person. It’s unequal an…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/12/23 08:56 AM
2	How does anyone connect if no one will chase? Nope. Men lead, women tend to follow. Men chase and initiate, women respond.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/12/23 08:51 AM
-1	How does anyone connect if no one will chase? This is a common misconception by men. Women who approach dating from a genuine place will NOT be turned off when a man they think is a catch chases them. Women will be turned off if the guy quickly reveals that he is insecure, needy, and looking for someone to fill what is lacking in his life. If a guy they don’t think is a catch chases them, the chasing doesn’t turn them off, they were just never interested to begin with. Nothing changes. As a woman with very traditional morals and values, my …	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/12/23 08:46 AM
1	what do women gain from being in a relationship with men if they’re seen as valueless after 25? If a man “gets his life together” at 33 and becomes responsible and productive after being aimless in his 20s, he becomes more attractive as an individual. There may be 20% of women under 25 willing to date someone 8+ years their senior who is successful. Whereas when he was younger, 100% of women under 25 were willing to date a guy his age, but maybe only 10% wanted to date someone without their stuff together. But after a man becomes financially stable/competent, his attractiveness to young wo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/12/23 12:57 PM
1	what do women gain from being in a relationship with men if they’re seen as valueless after 25? All I’m going to say is that as a younger woman in my early 20s, I was absolutely not open to romantic relationships with anyone more than 5-6 years older than me, and that’s remained the case. So in my view, if you want the consideration of a large swath of girls in their young 20s, you need to also be in your 20s. The percentage of young women willing to date you - period, regardless of your financial success - decreases as you age.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/12/23 06:08 AM
1	what do women gain from being in a relationship with men if they’re seen as valueless after 25? I agree that women should marry younger, but so that they can pair off with people their own age. Obviously as you get older, more members of the opposite sex are taken/married, and dysfunctional people are overrepresented which makes dating harder. But I mean, the idea that men are always valuable and women who are unmarried and over 30 have no value is just incorrect and insulting. They may not be as attractive, but I have never had an issue attracting men about 1-4 years older than me (for re…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/12/23 01:26 AM
1	what do women gain from being in a relationship with men if they’re seen as valueless after 25? Gross	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/12/23 01:09 AM
3	what do women gain from being in a relationship with men if they’re seen as valueless after 25? I would love to see you show your girlfriend this comment.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/12/23 05:58 PM
2	Lying to Women is okay The last guy I dated lied about a ton of things, including his age, phone number, and last name, among others. He supposedly really liked me, but I could never actually trust him because I had this sense he was not being transparent. After I broke it off with him, I did a little googling and found out all sorts of stuff he had been lying about (which of course he denied). His Twitter was full of all sorts of misogynistic stuff, which led me down the rabbit hole of learning about Red Pill, and th…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/12/23 05:46 PM
10	Would you allow your husband to sleep with other women? He's trying to see if any women are interested in his ideal scenario, methinks	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/12/23 08:06 AM
11	Would you allow your husband to sleep with other women? Nope. I only need about 45k a year to live the lifestyle I enjoy (and I make over that) so at this point I have no huge financial incentive to marry. The only thing I'm looking for is an awesome person who loves me and sees the world with the same value system as me. That's not what red pill doctrine teaches, but I'm a woman and that's what I want. Red pill doctrine also says I'm lying about what I want.. but I'm not :)	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/12/23 08:04 AM
1	Why do men say women have high standards? I grew up with 3 siblings on a household income of 35k a year and my mom was widowed when I was 10. So I have plenty of compassion for anyone who is scraping by. Finances were extremely tight in growing up, but my mom was very frugal and basically spent nothing on herself. All of our income went to food and things we needed growing up, but it was still tight. So respectfully, I both come from and currently regularly work with the lower income bracket. Having a low income is not inherently a reas…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/12/23 07:39 AM
1	Why do men say women have high standards? You seem to be implying that you are in the "dumb and foolish" and prolifically reproducing category, which is an interesting way of describing yourself. As long as you take care of your kids without needing government assistance due to poor personal choices, your reproductive decisions are your own and not my concern or interest.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/12/23 06:28 AM
1	Why do men say women have high standards? Congratulations?? Kind of a weird flex tbh.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/12/23 06:12 AM
1	Why do men say women have high standards? If you decide to start a family - or ANY serious undertaking - without first deciding if you can afford to do so, you are foolish. Full stop. You won't be alone, as there all sorts of very dumb people out there reproducing irresponsibly. They show up to my ER all the time. Proceed at your own risk.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/12/23 06:03 AM
-1	Why do men say women have high standards? I’m not sure if there was an actual point to your comment, or if you just made sure to make as many objections as possible. How anyone disagrees with “you need to be realistic about your ability to support a family” is beyond me. That’s just common sense. To be fair, if you’re both dirt poor and scraping by, then yes I’d say both of y’all need a roommate, partner, or both. So I can see that being a mutually beneficial thing for lower income individuals. But you still need to be realistic always …	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/12/23 05:49 AM
10	what do women gain from being in a relationship with men if they’re seen as valueless after 25? I’m cackling 🤣🤣🤣 a raggedy old teddy bear.. at 25?? Y’all are trippin in here.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/12/23 05:41 AM
0	Why do men say women have high standards? Did you seriously downvote my comment for simply clarifying what you are asking? If so, yikes man. Don’t let that downvoting power go to your head. Yeah times suck economically for many people. So men need to be realistic about whether they can afford to support a family. And if you aren’t making a substantial income, it narrows your pool. You can still attempt to date and probably will need to be dual income. You can’t expect women to want to date you when you don’t make enough to cover a good …	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/12/23 05:22 AM
0	Why do men say women have high standards? I really empathize with this. At 30, I can see how much the decisions you make from like 15-21 or so really impact the trajectory of your life.. but at the time you can’t really appreciate how much it’s going to matter.. brain isn’t developed, etc. So it’s kind of a crapshoot and you just have to hope your teenage self fell in with the right crowd and made the best decisions they could. I know weight loss and that kind of habit change is grueling.. honestly probably harder than anything I’ve eve…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/12/23 03:59 AM
0	Why do men say women have high standards? I’m not sure what you’re asking or implying by your comment. Does what seem realistic?	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/12/23 03:32 AM
-3	Why do men say women have high standards? I have never seen so much whining about basic facts of life/state of the world until I fell down the rabbit hole of this sub. We can talk about men’s rights, legal equality, all that’s good and fine, but there is this constant, endless complaining by men about women not wanting to date them. What is the point of complaining about this?? Aside from height, there are VERY few things men have zero degree of control over. And while appearance matters to both sexes, it matters less to women, whereas …	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/12/23 01:08 AM
-3	Why do men say women have high standards? As a thought exercise, how would a relationship with a rich/successful man and a pretty but unsuccessful woman go? The man can provide, so at least there’s that. How about a handsome but unsuccessful man and a pretty but unsuccessful woman? You think they’ll be happy long without money to pay the rent or raise a family comfortably? How about a rich/successful woman and a handsome but unsuccessful man? It may work, but the dynamic is a bit weird/emasculating. Basically, ALL men who want to be in …	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/12/23 12:58 AM
1	There are many women who are so shallow that a man letting them pay for their own food on a date is a turn-off for them. In a relationship I spend my time with the guy obviously first of all, and I do thoughtful things for him like picking up gifts for him, making food, giving rides, and at times being the one to treat him, like buying snacks at a concession stand or whatever. In more formal settings where there is an actual tab or check, he tends to be the one to want to pay, although I never presume that. Critical point here: if you are unhappy with an arrangement where on an excel spreadsheet, your financial in…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/12/23 12:29 AM
1	There are many women who are so shallow that a man letting them pay for their own food on a date is a turn-off for them. I think you said it well when you said that the juice isn’t worth the squeeze. You made an assessment for yourself that you weren’t getting what you wanted out of a relationship, and left. Good for you! I would never want to be in a relationship with someone who wasn’t happy and resented what they were doing to pursue me. The reality is that many men believe certain women are intrinsically worth pursuing and investing in. I’ve dated a number of men over the years who felt that way about me and t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/12/23 07:04 PM
1	Are most women demisexual? And what exactly qualifies you to speak on behalf of every woman on the planet?	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/12/23 05:59 PM
1	Are most women demisexual? It accurately describes me. Premarital sex is against my morals anyway, but fortunately I don’t have to deal with any urges to go after random people sexually. In the context of a relationship, at some point that switch flips and I enjoy physical expression of affection and definitely look forward to intimacy. Sure I notice attractiveness and that plays a role in who I date, but I would not want to hook up. It’s actually bizarre to me how anyone treats something as intimate as sex in such a casu…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/12/23 05:57 PM
1	There are many women who are so shallow that a man letting them pay for their own food on a date is a turn-off for them. If we are discussing the value of being in a relationship with me, the person to ask would not be me, but my partner. Every man will have a different idea of how much they value being in a relationship with me. Do you believe that in every stage of a relationship, a woman should be providing tangible things to the man beyond the intangible value of a future relationship with her? Because based on their actions, many men disagree with you. By their actions, they are stating that they put a high v…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/12/23 05:29 PM
1	There are many women who are so shallow that a man letting them pay for their own food on a date is a turn-off for them. I am relieved to read your last paragraph! A glimmer of valuing other things. Personally, I was raised by parents who were not at all materialistic, so money’s never been a huge thing for me because beyond covering my needs and wants at about 30-40k a year, I don’t have an immediate need for much more than that. I’m just glad to make enough where I don’t have to stress about paying for my needs. Sex, well I’ve lived without it longer than most and I’m doing okay! Of course like most people I’d l…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/12/23 05:09 PM
2	There are many women who are so shallow that a man letting them pay for their own food on a date is a turn-off for them. The more we talk the more it becomes apparent that the primary things of value in your world are money and sex. Everything else is just a frustratingly tedious game that has to be played so that at the end the woman is willing to give it up. The relationship itself doesn’t seem to be a source of joy for you.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/12/23 04:37 PM
1	There are many women who are so shallow that a man letting them pay for their own food on a date is a turn-off for them. The game?	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/12/23 04:33 PM
1	There are many women who are so shallow that a man letting them pay for their own food on a date is a turn-off for them. You asked me a question that can’t be answered due to being subjective. I gave examples of the way services have value and the way relationships themselves have near infinite value.. IF you love the person. That’s like asking me “what’s more valuable than money” or something similar. I can’t tell you what YOU value. If your relationship with $10, $20, $30, etc is worth more to you than the value of having a date with a girl you can see a future with, that’s your prerogative. I haven’t failed to …	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/12/23 04:30 PM
2	There are many women who are so shallow that a man letting them pay for their own food on a date is a turn-off for them. Your comment reads like something a person would say if the only thing they wanted from a woman was sex and they viewed her as a human vending machine where you put in money and eventually sex comes out. That’s not a healthy way of approaching life/relationships, but I can understand the frustration a person with that mindset would experience.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/12/23 10:19 AM
2	There are many women who are so shallow that a man letting them pay for their own food on a date is a turn-off for them. Not really sure the point you are making. But yeah “that’s just how you look at it” would be a pretty good synopsis of most threads/comments on here. From an outside perspective, most comments seem like they are made by people who don’t experience the emotions of love and empathy. And they don’t seem to realize that relationships are really hard to maintain when you approach them without a heathy spectrum of functioning human emotion beyond lust, jealousy, and anger.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/12/23 10:15 AM
0	There are many women who are so shallow that a man letting them pay for their own food on a date is a turn-off for them. I’ve pointed out that while money has an objective value, the value of goods, services, and intangible social factors is subjective. There’s a couple online where the girl is able bodied and the guy is congenitally disabled. She’s his wife and caretaker. That’s an extreme example of where the concrete money/goods/services from one partner are significantly disparate, but it equals out because she values the relationship with him highly. That’s the whole point. I can’t tell you what YOU value. It…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/12/23 10:07 AM
2	There are many women who are so shallow that a man letting them pay for their own food on a date is a turn-off for them. I think men know it’s expected, yes. It’s the standard and the way things have been done for a very long time. The question is whether all men RESENT paying. I don’t think the majority of them do based on my experiences dating men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/12/23 09:40 AM
1	There are many women who are so shallow that a man letting them pay for their own food on a date is a turn-off for them. I should clarify, it is not reciprocal. If someone buys me dinner, that doesn’t mean I’m sleeping with them in return. I’ve never run into a man who didn’t want to pay for me, and I assume when I do marry, that person I eventually marry and have a sexual relationship with will have paid for me along the way. But by that point we’ll be sharing finances.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/12/23 09:38 AM
2	There are many women who are so shallow that a man letting them pay for their own food on a date is a turn-off for them. Well with that sort of logical reasoning, let’s consider this case closed ladies and gentlemen.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/12/23 09:33 AM
1	There are many women who are so shallow that a man letting them pay for their own food on a date is a turn-off for them. I said nothing about “equality.” I’m making a factual statement about financial realities. If you remember algebra, an equation might be set up in the format of A + B = C + D. Or the equals sign could be a > or < sign if the totals are not equal. If the only thing in this world that holds value is money, then we can say yes, there is an imbalance in most relationships where more $$$ are put in by the man. But (and this requires higher level thinking aside from black and white, “gotcha,” Twitter …	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/12/23 09:30 AM
3	There are many women who are so shallow that a man letting them pay for their own food on a date is a turn-off for them. Some times the opportunity is there and other times they pay/reach for the check while you are in line and it’s clear they intend to pay. Part of social skills is knowing how to read the room and know when it’s acceptable to offer and when it would be awkward to make an issue out of it. Especially when you are standing in line for coffee, it’s only like $5, and he clearly moves to pay. I’m not gonna insult someone making an engineer salary by implying that he wouldn’t comfortably pay for it. My …	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/12/23 08:41 AM
1	There are many women who are so shallow that a man letting them pay for their own food on a date is a turn-off for them. As I stated above, I give generous tips every time for services and donate to charity (no less than $500 every month to church and various other charities). Or are you asking specifically in the context of a relationship?	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/12/23 08:35 AM
3	There are many women who are so shallow that a man letting them pay for their own food on a date is a turn-off for them. *How you think. Unless you believe you know what all men in the world think, which in the medical field we would classify as a delusional belief.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/12/23 08:32 AM
2	There are many women who are so shallow that a man letting them pay for their own food on a date is a turn-off for them. So you think you know my exes’ inner thoughts better than I do. 😂 Love that for you! And btw, “getting laid” has nothing to do with it. Sex comes after marriage in my worldview. It’s not payback for taking me out to dinner.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/12/23 07:00 AM
6	There are many women who are so shallow that a man letting them pay for their own food on a date is a turn-off for them. You’ve offered one explanation why guys pay. You’re basically saying that guys never pay out of a genuine joy of being generous, only a begrudging sense of obligation. So basically, in your perspective, guys are going to pay because it’s what they have to do, and women should feel guilty about it? Or what exactly do you propose I do differently? I feel no guilt over allowing someone to be generous to me when they have repeatedly said THEY WANT TO. And if that upsets you, I’m sorry. It doesn’t up…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/12/23 06:47 AM
6	There are many women who are so shallow that a man letting them pay for their own food on a date is a turn-off for them. Fact is, as a millennial woman, no guy has ever wanted me to pay for myself. I have at times asked/offered to pay but generally from basically every man I have dated, the vibe I get is that they would be embarrassed to let me pay. One time I split the check because a guy was in the bathroom when it came and I didn’t want to assume. Later he told me, “I didn’t like that, I would have rather paid for you.” This is my reality as a woman, that men WANT to pay, as a masculine thing. I’m not out here …	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/12/23 06:13 AM
–	It feels like many women believe they're better than men in general. Everyone has value as a person, let’s just get that out of the way. I think a lot of the problems in our society stem from people not respecting their own inherent dignity and the dignity of others. Second, vocal and provocative people on the internet do not speak for the majority. I suspect they are either actual outliers or just rage baiting, like little children who know that behaving inappropriately will generate attention and engagement on their platform. I’m a younger millennial with a tra…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/12/23 04:14 AM
2	Why is openly questioning "what do i get out of this relationship?" only a 1-sided discussion by societal norms or expectation standards? Define transaction. Are you saying that every interaction between two people is either altruistic or transactional? If so, how would you characterize friendship? Is it altruistic, transactional, or something else?	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/12/23 12:40 PM
1	“Nothing is more unattractive to women than low self confidence” Really, you need to stop overstating what I said. I made no absolute statements in my reply. Not everyone is going to be financially successful, even if they work hard. Many eventually will, if they work not only harder but smarter and more creatively. There is always an element of luck and chance. And there are people caught in a cycle of poverty, but you see a distinct difference in cultures that understand the value of education vs. those that don’t. You see all sorts of examples of poor 1st …	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/12/23 12:03 PM
3	“Nothing is more unattractive to women than low self confidence” Lol. Considering what I’ve seen your comment is unsurprising. As they say, when all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail. I never contradicted myself. I said I have a certain standard for men. I want them to value and exhibit the same types of gender neutral positive character qualities I exhibit and value, except in a man’s body with the male presentation of those traits: honesty, work ethic, critical thinking, sociability, good with kids, faith, etc. I also said I am not ranking …	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/12/23 11:49 AM
2	“Nothing is more unattractive to women than low self confidence” No, I never said it is an absolute rule. But people who make good choices DO get the internal satisfaction and confidence of being proud of themselves. Over time, you do reap what you sow, to a varying extent. My siblings and I grew up in a family that made about 30-40k per year and lost one of our parents growing up. Raised by single mom. Every one of us graduated from college, 3/4 from grad school as well. I’ve been financially independent since age 17 and worked my tail off to get a full ride…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/12/23 10:34 AM
0	“Nothing is more unattractive to women than low self confidence” Oh boy. Pardon my saying this but this isn’t our first encounter on here, and I regularly notice your username because half the time I read a comment on here that is just next level salty, I then see it’s from you. I recall something about you calling me a nasty person because I worked in the medical field (???) So just to preface, not likely we are going to find common ground. There are a lot of logical leaps in your response. We agree that women like confidence. But somehow you go straight to …	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/12/23 09:30 AM
6	“Nothing is more unattractive to women than low self confidence” I think the point being that charisma and confidence often go hand and hand but are actually two separate traits. I’m not likely to pursue a long term relationship with someone who is totally lacking in either. I don’t need to be entertained, I just need someone who’s contributing relatively equally to the dialogue/excitement/interest in the relationship. But yeah I would never be in a relationship with someone who was boring or lacked original/creative thoughts.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/12/23 08:17 AM
4	“Nothing is more unattractive to women than low self confidence” Yes, but why is that relevant? Do I need to establish exactly what degree of poor self image is a deal breaker? Also, there is a difference between shy/reserved and having bad energy. I don’t want to be in a relationship with someone whose head is full of predominately negative, pessimistic, angry, or self-deprecating thoughts. That’s basically what I was trying to clarify. Being slightly socially inept without a terrible inner dialogue is far less problematic/unattractive to me.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/12/23 07:42 AM
23	Why is openly questioning "what do i get out of this relationship?" only a 1-sided discussion by societal norms or expectation standards? Exactly. This sub is full of many unhappy people who don’t seem to derive intrinsic joy from relationships and essentially wish they could obtain specific benefits (mainly sex) without going through the motions of an emotional relationship. Essentially, mentally unhealthy people who don’t seem to understand that their dissatisfaction with the world could be resolved if they took pleasure from and found value in emotional connection. A relationship involves practical contributions made by both pa…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/12/23 07:11 AM
10	Why is openly questioning "what do i get out of this relationship?" only a 1-sided discussion by societal norms or expectation standards? If you don’t value the things a woman brings to a relationship, don’t date her. If you think women in general have no value, don’t date women. Simple as that. But as we all know, and as this sub demonstrates, men do want women, meaning they do think women have value. Some men just want women the way you want a high performing car or quality machine, and unfortunately for them, you can’t have the separate the person from the things you can extort out of them. They are not interested in the social…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/12/23 07:03 AM
10	Makeup plays an enormous role in women’s upper hand and allows them to play several leagues up, many of them look unrecognizable without it. If makeup adds 10 points to every woman’s overall score (gosh I hate how superficial this sub is), then the most attractive women before makeup are still the most attractive women after makeup. And if looks are all that matters and no man use makeup, then the pecking order stays the same. It’s not “men who are a 7 match with women who are a 7.” It’s that men and women who are 70th percentile in looks match with each other. And if all women use makeup to their best advantage, a woman’s percentile…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/12/23 05:08 AM
14	“Nothing is more unattractive to women than low self confidence” I think I agree with the general sentiment that people need to be accountable for making dumb decisions in relationships. The difficulty comes in assessing whether they did know or could/should have known that a guy was a complete dud. Absolutely women have a responsibility to read a guy and be realistic about what his intentions towards them are likely to be. But not everyone has as much exposure to or savviness about the dark side of human nature. But if the implication is - instead of these r…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/12/23 04:43 AM
–	It's crazy how a lot of people would rather be lonely forever than give up their mile long list of standards that they want in a partner. Is this really what the world has become? Well yeah, if you’re an average person in most respects and are holding out for a supermodel, it’s probably time for a reality check. However there are all sorts of reasons why people stay single. For example, particular religious beliefs where that person has to align with you on that, but then also must be mutual physical attraction, personality compatibility, etc. I live in the southern US. I cannot tell you how many “good ol country boys” I run across on the apps. If that were my type, I’d h…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/12/23 04:54 AM
3	Why aren't men attracted to Dark Triad traits in women? Men with dark triad traits are over represented here in the redpill/Manosphere communities. I think it’s a combination of seeing the world not as it is but as we are - we all have a perception that is based on our internal experience of our own nature - and like attracting like. Manipulative people find it easy to believe that the opposite sex is manipulative, because they think that way themselves and likely attract similar personalities who reinforce that belief and do manipulate in return. Da…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/11/23 07:29 PM
1	Why aren't men attracted to Dark Triad traits in women? So to be clear, are you saying that in a relationship between a “desirable” man and a “desirable” woman, the man is the one causing the chaos?	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/11/23 07:23 PM
2	What are some dating tricks you use which some may find bad but you feel are necessary? If I am attracted to someone in the first place, it’s because they have multiple good qualities and therefore have options. No, I wouldn’t want someone to leave a relationship for me- that indicates they have a wandering eye which is the opposite of what I want in a relationship. Being chosen by a good person is flattering enough to the ego.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/11/23 01:08 PM
1	What are some dating tricks you use which some may find bad but you feel are necessary? I’m just saying, it doesn’t make me see him as lesser. It just puts the ball in my court. If I already liked him, that just means I get to confidently express my own feelings. If I don’t feel good about the connection, I’ll probably be upfront about that too.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/11/23 06:05 AM
3	What are some dating tricks you use which some may find bad but you feel are necessary? Or, it could mean that out of all the women he could have pursued, he chose her. You can have options and choose to ignore them to pursue one person. As a woman, if a guy i like chooses me, that strengthens and solidifies my feelings about him.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/11/23 05:36 AM
1	What are some dating tricks you use which some may find bad but you feel are necessary? If you bring a lot to the table, being direct actually helps you. I LOVE when a man I want to be with is direct and doesn’t play games.. that’s how all of my relationships have progressed. My roommate who’s early 30s is in a great relationship with a guy who is very responsible, established, has his stuff together, and told her he wanted to focus on her exclusively after the first date. If you are being direct and getting rejected, it is because the woman doesn’t want to be in a relationship wit…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/11/23 05:33 AM
2	Passport bros seems like a lot of work. Are things really that dire? So hypothetically, 60% of young women are liberal and 40% more conservative politically. And make that 30% liberal and 70% conservative for young men (all made up stats). Let’s assume that only a small percentage of liberals are churchgoers - maybe 10%. In my experience, it is much more common to be a nonreligious conservative than it is to be a religious liberal. So likely what is going on is that a higher percentage of conservative women are churchgoers and conservative agnostic or unaffiliate…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/11/23 03:19 PM
1	Passport bros seems like a lot of work. Are things really that dire? I fully agree! It would be preaching to the choir but I think you’d find this article by a writer named Kirk Durston very interesting. https://www.kirkdurston.com/blog/unwin?format=amp It explains exactly how a loss of morality, specifically sexually, degrades society. In about 3 generations of poor sexual choices and promiscuity, the bedrock of society is lost and it becomes weakened and quickly overtaken by a society with a stronger sexual ethic and therefore a stronger societal structure. Thi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/11/23 08:36 PM
2	Passport bros seems like a lot of work. Are things really that dire? Completely respect that. I had female friends who felt the same way about their husbands being virgins. While I don’t personally find it a huge deal, especially in someone who was not a Christian (since premarital sex is pretty standard in our society), I think it’s completely fair to want a partner who meets your standards. Whether that’s taking equally good care of their health, etc. But on this forum many do argue a double standard where men are entitled to demand purity while being pretty pr…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/11/23 08:06 PM
1	Passport bros seems like a lot of work. Are things really that dire? It’s a mixture of both I’m sure. Depends on whether they were following Jesus the whole time, converted later, etc. A huge part of Christianity is the idea that sins can be forgiven and covered over, and as a Christian I welcome everyone. Obviously that doesn’t change whether a person is a virgin or not, and if that is an absolute dating dealbreaker for you, no one will question you (although you should probably hold yourself to the same standard you expect, whatever that is). But is repentance …	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/11/23 07:49 PM
1	Passport bros seems like a lot of work. Are things really that dire? My point was not really in response to anything about people traveling to find a partner. If that’s what you feel the need to do, no one is going to stop you. But obviously if you can find someone whose culture and location are more similar it’s easier to keep the whole extended family together, and for a lot of people that’s important. It hasn’t been easy for me to find a husband here either, at least in the sense of someone who would be a good fit in terms of lifestyle, values, mutual attracti…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/11/23 07:43 PM
0	Passport bros seems like a lot of work. Are things really that dire? I looked at the studies you linked. When you say “young men outnumber women at younger ages,” the study you linked says that is only the case with people born after 2000. I was born in the early 90s so that data does not apply to my peer group. The increasingly non-churchgoing women of Gen Z have not yet reached their 30s and had a “come to Jesus” so your point does not apply. The women in my generation who are now 30 were not less religious than men when all of us were in our 20s - this is a ne…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/11/23 07:34 PM
1	Passport bros seems like a lot of work. Are things really that dire? Oh really? I can only speak to my own branch of Christianity. Is that more similar to Catholicism?	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/11/23 07:29 PM
2	Passport bros seems like a lot of work. Are things really that dire? Agree! It’s more an observation that the type of women that fit those criteria are a lot more common in religious circles. Also, religion gives people an identity and a worldview so they aren’t generally as inclined to need to seek validation/identity in other, less traditional ways.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/11/23 07:28 PM
3	Passport bros seems like a lot of work. Are things really that dire? Yeah, this is true. I don’t really suggest someone swoop in and snag a Christian. Faith should be a point of unity in a relationship. But maybe if guys want a traditional woman, they may realize that a lot of times this is based in certain faith principles and look into that for themselves. The dating market is slim but definitely not nonexistent in your late 20s and 30s.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/11/23 01:38 PM
5	Passport bros seems like a lot of work. Are things really that dire? Thank you for this valuable contribution to the discussion.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/11/23 01:35 PM
2	Passport bros seems like a lot of work. Are things really that dire? Let me put it to you this way. Not all of my friends saved their virginity for marriage. The majority of those who didn’t only slept with the person they eventually married. There may have been some who were more promiscuous, but not people in my inner circle. But I know for a fact that many, including myself, are practicing what they preach, well into and beyond their 20s. I don’t know anyone outside the church who is saving themselves for marriage or marrying as a virgin. They exist I’m sure b…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/11/23 01:33 PM
1	Passport bros seems like a lot of work. Are things really that dire? Well I guess it depends where you go to church. I’ve been in churches of Christ, and yes, as a 30 year old the vast majority of men my age are married. Singles retreats across the country within this particular branch of the church of Christ have a much higher ratio of single women to single men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/11/23 01:24 PM
7	Passport bros seems like a lot of work. Are things really that dire? I’m genuinely sorry you experienced that. And I have definitely seen that pattern play out.. often times Christians marry young and haven’t fully finished coming into who they are as adults, and then it turns out they weren’t actually into Christianity after all and divorce ensues. Nothing is 100% and yes people can change. Also the church is made up of a combination of genuine and insincere Christians. But as far as people who have the traditional values that are praised by men on forums like t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/11/23 01:15 PM
3	Passport bros seems like a lot of work. Are things really that dire? Thank you! That’s very helpful, I’ll edit it :)	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/11/23 06:22 AM
25	Passport bros seems like a lot of work. Are things really that dire? Honestly, this. I’m a Christian woman, and let me tell you, Christian men have it easy because they are outnumbered. The Christian woman is basically in most ways what redpill dudes want. But redpill men are not generally interested in servant-leadership mindset, or exhibiting the humble, kind, strength-under-control example of Jesus. Also they are not about to give up fornication or any other vices just because Jesus said so. Can’t have your cake eat it too.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/11/23 04:28 AM
7	What are the most common reasons women get divorced? Hear hear! Love to see people with actual real world experience on the subject share their thoughts. Quite a few frequenters here are just here to share opinions rather than learn anything.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/11/23 01:51 AM
1	Being a good person has nothing to do with how much a man is able to attract women Nah, just be assertive and masculine. There are other options in between pushover and potential serial killer.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/11/23 01:35 PM
–	[Q4All]What are your thoughts on “Foodie Calls”? I’m confused.. I was agreeing with you and saying that there was a double standard in macone235’s post. Maybe you thought I was the same person you had replied to?	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/11/23 01:21 AM
1	[Q4All]What are your thoughts on “Foodie Calls”? The double think is something else with this one. What a novel concept that BOTH genders should treat the other respectfully and not deceitfully.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/11/23 10:32 PM
4	[Q4All]What are your thoughts on “Foodie Calls”? I said nothing about a woman stealing a man’s wallet. This post is about men who consent to pay, voluntarily, for a woman’s meal under the false impression that she is actually interested in him. So by your reasoning, that man is not entitled to the woman being honest about her intentions/lack of genuine interest and as long as he willingly paid, he has nothing to complain about. Just like by your reasoning, the woman who put out has nothing to complain about when the guy she thought wanted to d…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/11/23 08:57 PM
1	[Q4All]What are your thoughts on “Foodie Calls”? You don’t like the point I made, which was logical. Your reply was illogical. No, no one is entitled to a relationship. I never said that. They are entitled to honesty. It is wrong to obtain sex with the implication of future romantic progression. It is wrong to obtain a free meal with the implication of future romantic progression.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/11/23 08:20 PM
2	[Q4All]What are your thoughts on “Foodie Calls”? Not an equal transaction according to red pill ideas in which casual sex deceases a woman’s worth and increases a man’s worth. Or biology - sex is way riskier for a woman because of the risk of pregnancy. So yes it’s absolutely wrong for a man to engage in that sort of behavior if the woman is not 100% on board with never hearing from him again. If he implies commitment beyond a hook up, then gets sex and ghosts afterwards, that’s parallel to a woman using a man for a free meal. In fact it’s wor…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/11/23 07:23 PM
-1	A lot of men are jealous of women. it comes off as feminine and is one of the reasons men have issues finding partners I guess it depends, but still unless a person has severe social anxiety, it shouldn’t be too much of a negative to have to be the pursuer/initiator. I mean, I’ve used the app bumble in the past couple years and I’m always the one starting the conversations and what not. I just don’t fully see how being the one in the driver’s seat is a bad thing. Do you wish you could be passive as a man and women would just come to you? I’m not a man but having talked to guys and having brothers I know they enj…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/10/23 10:36 PM
2	A lot of men are jealous of women. it comes off as feminine and is one of the reasons men have issues finding partners Oh okay! Yeah I agree that the desire to be the object of pursuit is a feminine kind of energy	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/10/23 09:28 PM
-1	A lot of men are jealous of women. it comes off as feminine and is one of the reasons men have issues finding partners I didn’t use the word privilege. I would say privilege is being born in a wealthy family, being blessed with really good genes, great social circle, etc. Do you actually believe that babies who are born female are inherently more fortunate than babies born male? I just see the genders as different, and each have different advantages and disadvantages. Being a woman means you typically have less control over who approaches you. You can flirt/encourage, but generally you won’t help your case by pu…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/10/23 08:44 PM
2	A lot of men are jealous of women. it comes off as feminine and is one of the reasons men have issues finding partners I hear you. My main thought after reading your comment is that the big question is, who defines the standards for ideal male and female behavior. I’m a Christian so I believe in a number of things that diverge from redpill. I hold to universal standards of no promiscuity, no gluttony, stewarding one’s body, males leading in church and families (albeit in a kind way with love for their wives), faithfulness to one’s spouse, charity, concern for others above oneself, and innumerable other character…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/10/23 08:27 PM
0	A lot of men are jealous of women. it comes off as feminine and is one of the reasons men have issues finding partners 100% agree! If you check my other comments you’ll see I clarified that. I wrote the above comment rather sloppily. OP set up the post rather confusingly by mixing a truth (jealousy in men is unattractive) with an error (because jealousy is feminine). Jealousy/victim mentality is just a universally unbecoming way of thinking.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/10/23 07:35 PM
2	A lot of men are jealous of women. it comes off as feminine and is one of the reasons men have issues finding partners I’m not sure I follow you 100% in your second sentence. I don’t consider it a double standard to expect different things of men/women. But I certainly expect all people to behave with good character in the ways that are fitting for their roles in society. Lots of character traits like honesty, self-control, patience, faithfulness, are important for men and women equally. I’m definitely an idealist and would like to live in a world where everyone holds themselves to a very high standard of morali…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/10/23 07:30 PM
1	A lot of men are jealous of women. it comes off as feminine and is one of the reasons men have issues finding partners No it goes both ways! I acknowledged your same sentiment in a separate comment. No need to assume I wouldn’t hold the reverse true as well.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/10/23 06:58 PM
2	A lot of men are jealous of women. it comes off as feminine and is one of the reasons men have issues finding partners I wrote a longer comment to another reply to my above comment. Long story short, jealousy is not inherently feminine. It’s universally unattractive in men or women, along with complaining, negativity, victim mentality, etc. The discussion of feminine traits being unbecoming on straight men is a separate discussion. (My comment above was on this topic.) Unattractive personality traits are unattractive on everyone!	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/10/23 06:57 PM
1	A lot of men are jealous of women. it comes off as feminine and is one of the reasons men have issues finding partners You fail to understand that your study doesn’t reach the conclusions you claim it does. Sorry!	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/10/23 06:53 PM
1	A lot of men are jealous of women. it comes off as feminine and is one of the reasons men have issues finding partners Let me give you an example: I like dresses on women. I like wearing dresses as a woman. I would find a man repulsive if he were wearing a dress. That’s completely reasonable. It’s not misandry or a double standard to dislike feminine qualities in a man. I also like masculine qualities in men, while disliking some of those masculine traits when in women. Again, that doesn’t make me a misogynist. It’s reasonable to prefer people to stick with their gender’s norms. Now another example. I understand…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/10/23 06:51 PM
1	A lot of men are jealous of women. it comes off as feminine and is one of the reasons men have issues finding partners Not handwaving.. acknowledging that many social areas cannot be studied in the black and white way some people would like. I say that as someone with a masters, formal training in analyzing research, and two articles published in scientific journals. I was interested to see your sources but it’s a very weak paper to support the point you are trying to make. You exhibit a common delusion of thinking that all women want the exact same things, which is not only statistically improbable, but easily …	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/10/23 06:35 PM
2	A lot of men are jealous of women. it comes off as feminine and is one of the reasons men have issues finding partners This is a study of adolescents only, and specifically Spanish adolescents. So the results only generalize to the population studied. If you want to make generalizations about people older than teenagers, our people who aren’t Spanish, you’d need another study involving that group as the population studied. This honestly isn’t a topic that lends itself to accurate scientific study anyway. Too many soft social factors to accurately control for. It’s not as easily studied as a new drug or something…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/10/23 05:51 PM
1	A lot of men are jealous of women. it comes off as feminine and is one of the reasons men have issues finding partners You didn’t cite any research	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/10/23 05:33 PM
2	A lot of men are jealous of women. it comes off as feminine and is one of the reasons men have issues finding partners You’re welcome to your opinion :)	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/10/23 05:31 PM
0	A lot of men are jealous of women. it comes off as feminine and is one of the reasons men have issues finding partners Bold of you to assume that, but we weren’t. And I quickly sensed that something was off with him and cut things off when that became clear, so at least for me I feel great about my intuition. Chivalry and traditional values are generally a positive for most women unless they are more pointedly feminist. Misogyny is only attractive to women with low self esteem or similar issues. Of course some people are attracted to abusive traits and mindsets, but not healthy people.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/10/23 04:51 PM
0	A lot of men are jealous of women. it comes off as feminine and is one of the reasons men have issues finding partners For relationships to work, someone has to initiate that and be the one to drive things in a certain direction. For straight relationships, that’s going to be the man 99% of the time - the one with a higher sex drive, more assertiveness, and more leadership qualities. A relationship of 50/50 behavior is not attractive. You are free to dislike the idea that women get to sit there and be pursued, but this is how straight relationships have historically worked. The confidence of a guy to pursue is a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/10/23 03:51 PM
0	A lot of men are jealous of women. it comes off as feminine and is one of the reasons men have issues finding partners Your worldview on masculinity absolutely impacts women’s attraction to you. “Well i don’t tell them what I think.” Yes, you do. In more subtle ways that women can pick up on. The whole reason I got on this sub was to learn more about redpill after going out of a situationship with a guy who thought that way. Did he tell me that? Absolutely not. In fact he went above and beyond lying about how he used to be a feminist and all sorts of stuff. He claimed to be moderate but he was so shady and gave …	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/10/23 03:30 PM
2	A lot of men are jealous of women. it comes off as feminine and is one of the reasons men have issues finding partners You can’t actually believe that logic. OP is calling out a certain mindset as not masculine. OP is saying it’s not inherently icky, it’s icky coming from a man. Lots of feminine attitudes and behaviors, when done by a man, are repulsive to straight women. We don’t hate ourselves and other women, we just are sexually attracted by the opposite. That has nothing to do with misogyny. Edited to add: I disagree with OP that the attitude being discussed is “feminine.” It’s just a bad attitude and there…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/10/23 03:14 PM
1	CMV: If you choose to pursue trashy women over being single, stop expecting sympathy. I hope you get the help you need sir!	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/10/23 12:14 AM
–	CMV: If you choose to pursue trashy women over being single, stop expecting sympathy. I feel like I just communicated with an alien.. or perhaps someone under the effects of some mind altering substances. lol. I swear some of y’all on here are as paranoid as my schizophrenic and meth addicted patients in the ER. Truly beyond help.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/10/23 12:05 AM
5	CMV: If you choose to pursue trashy women over being single, stop expecting sympathy. Imagine thinking that the only reason to agree with someone is to seduce them 😂 and on Reddit? A worldwide forum where no one knows anyone and probably lives half a world away? Deep in delulu.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/10/23 07:46 PM
2	Casual sex is worse for women and makes them sad and untrustworthy Totally respect that take. Depending on what one believes about our origin as humankind, it’s obvious that men have higher sex drives and that’s not an inherently bad thing no matter what anyone says. The main point to agree on is that instinct isn’t a justification for bad behavior, and I think that point can get lost in discussions of why we are wired a particular way.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/10/23 08:11 PM
3	Casual sex is worse for women and makes them sad and untrustworthy And how does your belief about this inform your beliefs about how we should act today? When I used the word designed, I have a different perspective in mind.. the idea that the human organism was built/created by someone who understands how it works best, and who explained to early society a moral code which many people today think of as archaic, but when followed produces a stable society with maximized happiness and positive outcomes for the whole group. What I’ve noticed is that people in thi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/10/23 01:52 PM
6	Casual sex is worse for women and makes them sad and untrustworthy So by that reasoning, why should men engage in something intimate so casually? Does sex become less intimate when a man is involved? I agree with your point that sex is intimate. But if the act itself - which involves 2 people - it’s intimate, it is intimate for both of them, not just the woman.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/10/23 01:41 AM
11	Casual sex is worse for women and makes them sad and untrustworthy Shhh.. only confirmation bias allowed here ;)	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/10/23 01:36 AM
3	Casual sex is worse for women and makes them sad and untrustworthy Almost like we weren’t designed for casual sex. Maybe if casual sex isn’t good for women, then men shouldn’t engage with women in casual sexual encounters. If women AND men practiced chastity perfectly (hear me out): no STDs, no children born out of wedlock, drastically lower rates of fatherless children, fewer and less severe heartbreaks for women, and increased ability of women to bind to the men they actually marry. A stronger society with fewer broken and blended families. People forget it a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/10/23 01:32 AM
3	Everything In Relationships Ultimately Comes Down To Power For Men You basically just repeated yourself without absorbing any of the points I made. You also made several unverified statements about what all women want. A) women are not a monolith - they don’t all want the same thing. B) you’re not even a women. Classic redpill thinking. I am a woman. I do not seek out or want a relationship like the one you describe. All of my relationships have involved mutual respect. Break ups occurred for reasons of compatibility/lifestyle factors, not loss of attraction. A…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/10/23 11:37 AM
1	Everything In Relationships Ultimately Comes Down To Power For Men OP is just reasoning in circles. Bless him.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/10/23 04:27 AM
3	Everything In Relationships Ultimately Comes Down To Power For Men What you are describing is simply a dynamic in which the man has the advantage or the upper hand. I find it so revealing that you say in as many words “this is better for everyone.” How is it better for the woman? It’s better to be in a relationship with someone who you perceive as being out of your league, and who, should they decide to, could easily discard you and move on? (As you spelled out in comments below.) No my friend, that dynamic isn’t healthy. Healthy is where, due to individual pre…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/10/23 04:23 AM
5	There is no correct way of approaching women which cannot at some point be construed as annoying or inappropriate It’s called social skills. Some people call it reading the room. If you see a girl you want to approach, a light, friendly conversation starter is fine. If she’s interested, she’ll pass the ball back and you get the green light to keep talking to her and maybe try to ask her out or get her number. What you DON’T do is walk up to a woman and straight up say, hey you’re beautiful, I’d like to take you out on a date. Not gonna go well 98% of the time. Start neutral/friendly. Proceed if you get the …	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/10/23 03:20 PM
6	If it's a chore why get in a relationship? Are you able to grasp that for some people, it turns them on to know that their partner cares? Or are you only able to conceive of your own personal experience where sex drive operates independently of how much affection you are shown? Not everyone is wired like you.. theory of mind 101. And btw - No one is talking about trading affection for sex or vice versa; they're talking about affection being one necessary prerequisite for sexual desire on any given occasion. But feel free to misunderstand…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/10/23 01:09 AM
6	What will be the impact of intelligent life-size realistic artificial partners on the dating scene? Jesus come quickly 💀 they out here calling robots “partners”	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/10/23 03:47 AM
4	What will be the impact of intelligent life-size realistic artificial partners on the dating scene? I don’t know why anyone finds this significant. People have been “marrying” trees and cars and cartoon characters for years.. but they are simply anomalies for internet clickbait. anyone who gets relational fulfillment from a non living object is a freak, I’m sorry. No one with real life experience could think this will have any impact on the behavior of socially well-adjusted people. If freaks want to live in a bizarre way, that doesn’t directly impact me.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/10/23 03:12 AM
0	Most men cause their dating issues Your standards are fine. But if when you’re 40, you’re not willing to date a slim, attractive, childless woman who is 32 and not promiscuous - just because she’s over 30 - that’s maybe a tad unreasonable. This is about the claim that all women over 30 are universally worthless. Which is absurd. A 31 year old dating me when I was 29 is no different than the same guy at 32 dating me when I’m 30.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/10/23 02:42 AM
5	What will be the impact of intelligent life-size realistic artificial partners on the dating scene? That’s the point. A machine provides next to nothing of the experience of being in a relationship with a person. And it won’t replace that in any meaningful way. Literally I think a person would have to be autistic and not understand human relationships to express the opinion you are expressing here.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/10/23 12:35 AM
4	What will be the impact of intelligent life-size realistic artificial partners on the dating scene? Thank you! I feel like I’m taking crazy pills reading this thread 😂	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/10/23 12:32 AM
3	What will be the impact of intelligent life-size realistic artificial partners on the dating scene? Everyone who is insane enough to think that a robot is an adequate replacement for a human being will be removed from the dating pool and subsequently, from the gene pool. As they should be. Overall I imagine the impact will be very small but positive, streamlining the process for the rest of us normal people. This is my honest opinion but I can barely take these posts seriously 😂 how disconnected from reality do you have to be to think this is going to turn dating upside down?	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/10/23 12:30 AM
2	I think womens lower libido is what makes dating so hard That’s the point. Unfortunately, as a general rule, the average person is not willing to do profitable work on themselves without some reward. If almost all women wanted to hook up with men just as much as men want to hook up with them, men would have one less incentive to better themselves. If there is actually a reward for self-development, education, and financial stability - that women are willing to have you as a partner - more men will do that. And that’s beneficial for men individually, t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/10/23 04:19 AM
1	If "love" is primarily conditional on transactions, wealth, education, etc., then it's not really love. So what's the point? It’s self-evident that there is a different nature to someone paying for an escort and being in an average, typical relationship. I’m sorry you see all those things through a lens of transactions. It’s a cheap way to look at relationships, and it is not “reality,” it is just one way of perceiving what is happening - and that reflects your own perspective.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/10/23 04:47 AM
1	If "love" is primarily conditional on transactions, wealth, education, etc., then it's not really love. So what's the point? This sub never fails to amuse 😂	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/10/23 04:34 AM
1	If "love" is primarily conditional on transactions, wealth, education, etc., then it's not really love. So what's the point? Tell me you’re ignorant without telling me. There are similarities between all humans as well as vast differences. Some humans operate out of self interest, others who have ascended beyond base animal instinct put a greater emphasis on altruism. This is not debatable. If you can wrap your mind around the idea of people having different personalities, as you stated, then you should be able to understand differing levels of selfishness, which is a personality trait. Also, no one is here to deny th…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/10/23 12:41 AM
2	If "love" is primarily conditional on transactions, wealth, education, etc., then it's not really love. So what's the point? Well no, all humans don’t work the same way. (Common logical error in this redpill/purple pill space.) There are different degrees of general good will towards others. If you don’t believe it’s possible to do good to others and enjoy the benefit that brings them, without wanting anything in return, you are missing out on one of the best feelings there is. I’m sorry you don’t know this innately from your own experience of being human. I’m human too and have my own internal experience which is dif…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/10/23 11:30 PM
1	If "love" is primarily conditional on transactions, wealth, education, etc., then it's not really love. So what's the point? Everyone has standards for how they treat others and expect to be treated. In many ways a person is motivated to treat someone well out of love for them - or at least they should be - rather than the actions being a substitute for love, or the entire substance of the relationship. Conditions or standards are different than something being “transactional.” Transactional is what happens between an escort and the person who hires her. Said better, yes each person gets something out of the relations…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/10/23 11:12 PM
3	If "love" is primarily conditional on transactions, wealth, education, etc., then it's not really love. So what's the point? Such black and white thinking. There can be requirements on who to enter a relationship with AND then, after getting to know someone who meets those criteria, a deep sense of care and a feeling that now that you know this person, you want them specifically and no one else. Visiting this sub is like realizing that there are people all around me who don’t understand what it means to be human. Yeah, everything is transactional to you if you’re a narcissist, sociopath, or other flavor of bad person.…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/10/23 10:33 PM
0	Why aren’t we as harsh on promiscuous men as promiscuous women? That’s a very valid point! In retrospect, as a woman, even though I’ve grown and developed my own perspectives that are slightly different, I’m glad my parents taught me the importance of not having premarital sex. Outside of religion which I know not everyone will agree on, it saves so much disappointment and heartache. I’m not worried that I’m somehow “broken” for not having hooked up with a certain number of people or having a certain amount of sexual experience. When I meet the right person,…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/10/23 10:55 PM
-1	Why aren’t we as harsh on promiscuous men as promiscuous women? I completely agree with you OP. People seem to forget that the process of creating a single mother involves 2 people. A man who runs around chaotically pursuing sexual pleasure attempting to do so with a number of women he has no intent of staying with long term is absolutely contributing to the problem of broken families, as well as breaking hearts and affecting a woman’s ability to have healthy relationships down the line. Yes a man’s biology is going to motivate him to sleep around, but his m…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/10/23 07:33 PM
1	Redpill ideology is just legitimizing manipulation *I believe there’s nothing separate from science!	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/10/23 07:10 PM
1	Redpill ideology is just legitimizing manipulation If you believe in nonsense like life after death or the existence of heaven or hell, you are rejecting science. Of course that’s your right, but make no mistake, your belief is not compatible with science. It’s separate from science, and not explained by science. But you are incorrect in saying that they are mutually exclusive. Unless science claims to explain religion or religion claims to be explained by science, neither can prove or disprove the other. They are non-overlapping circles on a Ve…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/10/23 07:08 PM
1	Redpill ideology is just legitimizing manipulation You are free to your opinion. As I see it, the very existence of our souls is in fact where biological and spiritual realities intersect as the brain is a type of physical/biological machinery in which a spiritual soul can reside and operate. The existence of physical things like neurons and neurotransmitters don’t erase that.. they are simply the physical means by which spiritual will and thoughts play out in a human body, just as the keystrokes that appear on a computer screen are in fact the …	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/10/23 07:04 PM
1	Redpill ideology is just legitimizing manipulation Christians believe that the spiritual realm where God lives existed before time and is outside of time. The material world is lesser and Heaven was already there when our universe was formed. So obviously the natural rules of the universe don’t set the boundaries for things that are outside of the universe and preceded it. Christians believe what they do on the basis of evidence and faith, not the basis of being eyewitnesses or having scientific proof. But I’m absolutely confident in the evidenc…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/10/23 06:33 PM
–	Redpill ideology is just legitimizing manipulation Religion makes claims that can’t be verified by science. You have a faith that starts with the premise “nothing that is not explained by natural phenomena is or can be real.” That’s fine, but it is still your unproven belief that nothing outside of science exists. So basically, if religion is true, science wouldn’t be expected to be able to prove it. Wrong tool for the job. But we are wayyy off topic here.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/10/23 06:13 PM
–	Redpill ideology is just legitimizing manipulation Okay you articulated that so well. Like have you never been in love before? Have you never felt that it has to be her/him and no one else would do? Because if not I’m concerned for you. It makes sense that anyone dealing with sociopathy would gravitate towards redpill as a way of getting a partner from an intellectual/game approach since they have no true emotions to draw them towards another person. I would not be the slightest bit surprised if this guy I dated was a bit of a sociopath. Definit…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/10/23 05:12 PM
–	Redpill ideology is just legitimizing manipulation We can agree to disagree on that	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/10/23 05:05 PM
1	Redpill ideology is just legitimizing manipulation I need a primer to understand all this lingo, haha. But what I’m getting at is even though I get this dynamic, my solution isn’t to go to the “dark side.” There’s basically the human desire for revenge/evening the score, but lots of the wisest people and humanitarians have realized that revenge accomplishes nothing. The only good solution is to forgive and refuse to allow the evil to pass through you to the next person. That applies to generational evils like being raised in a toxic environment …	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/10/23 11:27 AM
–	Redpill ideology is just legitimizing manipulation To be fair, this is far more a movie about the experience of being a woman.. it’s not meant to give a 50/50 perspective. It wasn’t a documentary and it wouldn’t have made sense to do a long spiel on men’s issues. How could America Ferrara’s character have spoken personally on the experience of being a man? I think it’s a movie that can be taken different ways by different people.. but I think it’s definitely more humorous whereas to some people it’s just such a serious topic that they can’t look…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/10/23 11:14 AM
–	Redpill ideology is just legitimizing manipulation Ohhhhh. Thanks haha. Redpiller may not be the accurate term	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/10/23 10:31 AM
–	Redpill ideology is just legitimizing manipulation What did you think the Barbie movie was saying? To me it was just a commentary on how we don’t really understand what it’s like to be the opposite sex, and no one wants to feel like an accessory.. everyone should matter. Barbie finally experienced the way that Ken felt when they traveled to the real world. Honestly I thought it was a great message, poignant, and low key hilarious. Like the way Ken thought patriarchy had something to do with horses. Neither of us will ever fully understand the op…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/10/23 10:14 AM
–	Redpill ideology is just legitimizing manipulation I was researching redpill and listening to some dude on YouTube who has a talk show and he kept talking about “solving your reproductive problem.” It’s just such a weird terminology. Do men even care that much about reproducing with a woman they’re just having a ONS with?	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/10/23 10:08 AM
–	Redpill ideology is just legitimizing manipulation Ha, seriously? Like they’ve reached the goal so nothing else matters? Premarital sex is against my religion so I’ve never had to worry about that whole dynamic	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/10/23 10:05 AM
–	Redpill ideology is just legitimizing manipulation That is so interesting. It makes sense in a way. I’ve had some very negative experiences in online dating with people who are just absolutely cruel and have no humanity.. and I honestly feel like I’m a worse person as a result of experiencing that type of abuse. So it makes perfect sense that a series of blows like that would make a man gravitate towards something that he feels gives him more power and control, something to minimize his chances of being hurt.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/10/23 09:56 AM
–	Redpill ideology is just legitimizing manipulation I’m in Two X and it’s mostly just women’s topics that have nothing to do with men. Now I’ve been in the group FDS when someone on Reddit messaged me and was like, hey, check out this sub. It didn’t take long at all before I realized these people are kinda ruthless and messed up in the head, and I left quickly. I don’t want a man to spend money on dinner when we can get coffee and learn about each other just as well. But if I can see that immediately about a sub like FDS, men should equally be ab…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/10/23 09:52 AM
1	Redpill ideology is just legitimizing manipulation Yeah, that’s the part of redpill I think is probably beneficial.. the part that’s basically just social/relational skills. Because what attracts women isn’t what attracts men. (I.e. muscle pics in the mirror aren’t as attractive because I’m not just trying to assess a guy’s physique, I’d rather see his personality) If a guy just wants a bunch of short term relationships, then learning about average women’s behavior could be beneficial. But if you want to build a relationship with a specific woma…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/10/23 08:03 AM
0	Redpill ideology is just legitimizing manipulation What are terps? Still learning the terminology around here	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/10/23 07:52 AM
4	Redpill ideology is just legitimizing manipulation So, hurt people hurt people.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/10/23 12:42 AM
5	Redpill ideology is just legitimizing manipulation That’s my point. If someone is in Redpill mentality, they are relating to everyone in that sense. They aren’t going to be a different person just because their partner is not equally attempting to control/manipulate things. “Oh honey, I realize you are sweet and sincere and so I’m just going to backpedal on all of my deeply engrained ideas.” It’s approaching everyone with the intent to control. And my question was about people who are sincere, not people who are secretly “extra manipulative.”	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/10/23 10:40 PM
1	Redpill ideology is just legitimizing manipulation He was SO salty about the whole thing. Blamed it entirely on me when I was basically forced to break up with him because he was a pathological liar. Maybe.. mayyybe that’s why you’ve had a hard time maintaining a successful relationship with a woman.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/10/23 10:31 PM
1	Redpill ideology is just legitimizing manipulation How would you expect it to change?	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/10/23 10:29 PM
4	Redpill ideology is just legitimizing manipulation Yeah that’s the vibe I’ve gotten. Not “equal but different,” rather “unequal in every way.” The guy I spoke of above literally liked a tweet saying “men are better than women in every way.” Hard to comprehend.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/10/23 10:28 PM
-2	Redpill ideology is just legitimizing manipulation Hm. I agree that there is a spectrum of what could be described as manipulation. But speaking of types of manipulation that are underhanded or involve deceit, it might be more useful to revisit the questions with that in mind. A woman flirting with a man when there’s reciprocal interest may be encouraging him to make a move, but she’s not deceiving him or trying to force him to do something he doesn’t want to. If he’s not interested he won’t engage. That’s a very different scenario from deceivin…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/10/23 10:26 PM
2	Redpill ideology is just legitimizing manipulation Lol. No and n/a, why is that relevant?	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/10/23 10:13 PM
-1	Redpill ideology is just legitimizing manipulation Mmm. So if a woman believed that manipulation was wrong and all people should treat each other with straightforward decency and respect and strived to live that way herself, what would it look like if she got into a relationship with a Redpiller? Should someone in RP look for someone equally calculating so that the relationship is balanced?	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/10/23 10:06 PM
1	Redpill ideology is just legitimizing manipulation Right.. it’s like this thinking that by simply analyzing at a distance, you can figure out and conquer a person like a difficult level of a video game. And the statements about “all women,” who could ever take that seriously? People are unique individuals and nothing is absolute like that.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/10/23 10:04 PM
3	Redpill ideology is just legitimizing manipulation That’s the face value impression I’ve gotten, but I wanted to get feedback from those who identify as Redpill. And agreed! Women can absolutely be manipulative too.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/10/23 10:02 PM
0	Redpill ideology is just legitimizing manipulation That presumes that it’s only worth doing something if it’s directly beneficial to you. In which case, our worldview diverges at a higher level than this discussion.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/10/23 10:00 PM
1	Redpill ideology is just legitimizing manipulation Absolutely not. I’ve recently become aware of the subtlety and prevalence of manipulation and consider it an immoral way to relate to people. Sometimes it’s a fine line, but misrepresenting yourself to influence another’s behavior is way over that line. But thank you for contributing to the conversation! I’m very intrigued to see how many people think manipulation is okay.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/10/23 09:59 PM
2	Redpill ideology is just legitimizing manipulation Lol. Definitely not. It was interesting talking to him intellectually and I wanted to see it through, but he clearly showed himself to be a sketchy individual and so I broke it off. But he was definitely more invested and tried to push for exclusivity. But thank you for the replies! I’m very interested to compile all the feedback. In my mind, redpill is just one of many things I’ve run into and found to be harmful, with the underlying idea being that of manipulating another person’s behavior and…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/10/23 09:53 PM
3	Redpill ideology is just legitimizing manipulation I love it! Not even pretending to be a decent person. Own that abusive behavior 💪🏻	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/10/23 09:48 PM
2	Redpill ideology is just legitimizing manipulation Yeah I think that’s it. I have brothers, I know guys are naturally competitive. But at some point you have to grow up and look at relationships at something more than a game with an object to be possessed and controlled if you’re “successful.”	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/10/23 09:46 PM
4	Redpill ideology is just legitimizing manipulation I’m not a man.. did you read the post? Also your first sentence is completely pretentious. That in no way affects the topic I’m bringing up for discussion.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/10/23 09:45 PM
13	Redpill ideology is just legitimizing manipulation Okay yeah that’s helpful feedback. It’s confirming that people who buy into redpill desire not to be mistreated anymore, but to mistreat others now instead.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/10/23 09:36 PM
3	Redpill ideology is just legitimizing manipulation That’s what I’m saying. He was suggesting we watch the movie while liking tweets online from people who apparently found it highly offensive. The whole point of my post is that he was giving me one impression while secretly holding a completely different opinion. That became clear once I found his Twitter after breaking things off.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/10/23 09:31 PM
1	In my experience women don't care what you have to say and they are generally not genuinely interested in anything you are unless it aligns with them. What are you talking to them about? Sounds like you're just dating bad listeners. Or you're just dating women who aren't naturally curious. I have learned all sorts of things about areas of interest I didn't know about from dating different guys and engaging them on their various soapboxes. This is just a social skills issue, not really a gender issue.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/10/23 06:21 PM
1	The real reason women hate when older guys get with younger girls Well well.. we can’t argue with “scientific reality” now can we 😂 but the fact that a human being is invisible after being dead and buried doesn’t do much to support your point ;)	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/09/23 04:44 PM
5	The real reason women hate when older guys get with younger girls “Because I am shallow, and I know that about myself, I believe that most other people are also equally shallow.” We do not see the world as it is, we see it as we are.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/09/23 04:38 PM
1	The real reason women hate when older guys get with younger girls 😂 i cant stop scrolling through this train wreck of a thread. This dude has disagreed with every young woman’s comment so far where they say they find older men hitting on younger women to be gross. And then some guy says “women are bitter” and he goes “amen brother.” The confirmation bias with this one 😂😂😂 Yeah tell that to the terminally single weird dude my age who kept hitting on me after I had let him know MANY times I was not interested. Only for him, after years of this to get in a relati…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/09/23 04:32 PM
12	The real reason women hate when older guys get with younger girls Well, you don’t hear much in Red Pill ideology about the women who want to date within 5 years of their own age. Instead lots of dogma about how a man’s attractiveness to young women only increases with age. Probably relevant for you to have some idea of how few women are actually interested in an age gap relationship!	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/09/23 04:13 PM
10	The real reason women hate when older guys get with younger girls *to Redpill men like me 😂 Funny to see you making broad generalizations about “all men” after getting so pressed at the young woman above saying that all young women she knows don’t want to date older men. You sound like quite the catch personality-wise!	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/09/23 04:09 PM
2	"Everyone's entitled to their own preferences" only became a thing when women's superficial standards for men became undeniable and widely known. And today, people still judge men more harshly for having standards. Absolutely agree that statistically women have more ready emotional responses than men. But I don’t see it as a spectrum from logic on one end to emotion on the other. They are just different languages: on one hand the language of pure logic and reason and on the other the language of understanding other’s emotions and the soft skills/social skills of interpersonal interactions. You can speak either or both of these languages with any degree of proficiency. I strive to be highly logical and high…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/09/23 11:56 PM
0	Q4M: Your SO refuses to be emotionally vulnerable with you - Deal-breaker? As a woman, when my ex trusted me enough early on to share something personal and vulnerable with me, that was when I fell in love with him. I fall in love with a guy’s heart. Things didn’t work out between us but I still miss him and if it was up to me we would still be together. I want to see someone for who they are on the inside.. until then something is missing and I won’t be ready for a relationship with them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/09/23 09:54 PM
1	Today a London schoolgirl was murdered for refusing to go out with her classmate Yeah it’s very much on topic (women rejecting men’s advances & safety in being able to do so). Sorry that connection was hard for you to make. But I’m glad we agree that women aren’t obligated to openly reject men if they feel unsafe doing so.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/09/23 06:57 PM
1	Today a London schoolgirl was murdered for refusing to go out with her classmate is she therefore obligated to give him an honest response This is really challenging for you? Yikes.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/09/23 06:40 PM
6	"Everyone's entitled to their own preferences" only became a thing when women's superficial standards for men became undeniable and widely known. And today, people still judge men more harshly for having standards. Speaking for myself and the women I know who otherwise fit the type of criteria you’re describing, I don’t know a single one interested in ENM. There is not a man on earth I would want to share with another woman, and I mean that unequivocally. So essentially your standards are that the woman has to be your definition of perfect and ALSO be okay with you sleeping with any other women of your choosing. That’s not a standard so much as a caveat that you can be as unfaithful to her as you please. Y…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/09/23 06:33 PM
8	"Everyone's entitled to their own preferences" only became a thing when women's superficial standards for men became undeniable and widely known. And today, people still judge men more harshly for having standards. This is somewhat of a self-fulfilling prophecy. If you hold views like this, it’s going to be a very select group of low IQ women who make up your pool of potential relationship partners. And some guys probably like the dynamic of feeling smart by comparison so it works for them. Obviously women like you describe exist, it’s just far from generally true of all women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/09/23 06:25 PM
2	Today a London schoolgirl was murdered for refusing to go out with her classmate Okay well feel free to answer my original question to you once you wrap your brain around how my comment is related to the OP. But I’m pretty sure you just don’t like the question ;)	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/09/23 06:15 PM
2	Today a London schoolgirl was murdered for refusing to go out with her classmate If you are unable to both read and mentally process my comment, then you probably lack the basic skills needed to have a discussion.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/09/23 06:10 PM
9	CMV : Women have become introspective about their dating dynamics with men, but ironically over the wrong thing It’s a false dichotomy. A relationship can be exciting in ways other than “does or doesn’t this person like me.” A woman who has self worth and has experienced both healthier and less healthy dynamics is looking for a man who makes her feel valued, not insecure. All my past relationships have been with men who made me feel unquestioningly valued. They weren’t liberal or feminists and had lots of masculine energy, but definitely weren’t redpill. My last almost relationship stayed a situationship …	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/09/23 06:05 PM
2	CMV : Women have become introspective about their dating dynamics with men, but ironically over the wrong thing The “game” that is very much still available and effective for men who think of themselves as average is to show genuine, masculine energy in pursuing the one woman they are currently most interested in. As a woman, as long as a person has passed the barriers of decent looking, responsible, and mentally stable, their interest in me will determine how much I invest in our connection.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/09/23 05:53 PM
2	Today a London schoolgirl was murdered for refusing to go out with her classmate Here’s a question for you, if a woman receives a romantic offer of some kind from a man and is not interested, is she therefore obligated because of an action HE took to give him an honest response and roll the dice on an adverse reaction, anything from him pleading, harassing her, calling her a derogatory term, or something else? And if you believe she is obligated to do so, please explain why.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/09/23 05:43 PM