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| 1 | How important is sexual attraction really? 🤔Will you explain what makes this witch hunting? My comment wasn't calling for any attacks or even saying that anyone was straight-up wrong. I wanted to explain why I thought that personal situations and experience might bias some advice and that Alda's advice to ignore all women and specific backlash against poppy should be taken with a grain of salt depending on one's life goals. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/21 01:27 PM |
| 1 | How important is sexual attraction really? 🤔The extent to which sexual attraction matters is personal. For an asexual person, it doesn't matter. For most people, it will matter at least to some extent, but other priorities may matter more. For some, it will be the defining need within a relationship. For me personally, there's a minimum level of sexual attraction that's necessary in order for me to be excited by sex (and I value active interest in sex in the context of a relationship), but it's a binary threshold; if you hit it, that's gr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/21 01:00 PM |
| 1 | Is the current state of dating incentivizing women to stay in mediocre/bad relationships?I don't think fear of being alone or having to restart the dating process are the main reasons women stay in bad relationships. I think the biggest reasons are kids, financial instability, and not realizing it's a bad relationship (or believing she's not worth anything better). Around half or a bit more than half of my lady friends are currently in LTRs, though at least from my perspective most of these are good relationships. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/21 11:46 AM |
| 1 | What are the most important aspects of Female Dating Strategies to those who follow them?I'm not a member of FDS or particularly supportive of their stances in general, but I think you could readily answer your questions by reading the material they have already: https://www.reddit.com/r/FemaleDatingStrategy/wiki/recommended_reading https://www.reddit.com/r/FemaleDatingStrategy/wiki/glossaryofterms | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/21 11:41 AM |
| 9 | Red Pill people sometimes just make up fake numbersThere's also just a lot more people in feminist forums than redpill, and more people means more room for disagreement. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/21 11:26 AM |
| 23 | Has love become more rare?Or did men and women still love each other back then? In the past, most cultures didn't think love was necessary for a relationship. Marriage was about connecting/allying families or about economic partnership. Love wasn't seen as necessary, and people didn't focus on it. I doubt it was as common as love is in modern relationships, simply because there was no cultural emphasis on love. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/21 11:22 AM |
| 1 | The phrase “you’re not entitled to sex”Yeah what I meant with the period talk is that it can make some people uncomfortable. You're correct that some people are uncomfortable with this talk, though I have yet to hear anyone who's uncomfortable with it give a reason that doesn't boil down to the perception that female biology is inherently obscene or dirty. Have you? Without a solid reason for the special level of discomfort, I do not prioritize this discomfort over normalizing this kind of discussion. Normalizing "period talk" is imp… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/21 11:06 AM |
| 1 | The phrase “you’re not entitled to sex”the best way to make false accusations of rape get the skepticism they deserve is to make instances of actual sexual assault and rape as rare as they should be (i.e., it shouldn't happen) 🙃 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/21 06:44 AM |
| 1 | The phrase “you’re not entitled to sex”I'm just usually not on Reddit more than once a day, but also it's not like I owe a response. I write when I have time and energy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/21 06:40 AM |
| 1 | The phrase “you’re not entitled to sex”I'm sorry to hear you've had such violent and threatening experiences. I hope you came out of those experiences safely and had minimal lasting trauma. Good on you for reporting and getting your attackers arrested. I don't think that women are categorically different from men in terms of capacity for violence, but there are substantial statistical differences. In violent crimes where the victim and offender are different genders, 9/10 were men attacking women rather than the reverse (source: http… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/21 06:32 AM |
| 1 | The phrase “you’re not entitled to sex”Doesn't sound like a come-on? What does that even mean? I'm saying that comments like "ugh I'm having terrible period cramps" or "oh shoot I just started bleeding and don't have a tampon" are not sexual or flirtatious or implicitly requesting sexual favors/attention of any sort. It's no more sexual than something like "ouch, I cut my face shaving" or crying out in pain when someone kicks a soccer ball and it hits you in the balls. A person who complains is typically looking for some combination … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/21 05:58 AM |
| 1 | The phrase “you’re not entitled to sex”Why would whether a man has had sex or not affect whether he’s broadly perceived as threatening? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/21 01:13 AM |
| 1 | The phrase “you’re not entitled to sex”Venting about menstruation doesn't sound like a come-on. Venting about sexlessness to someone of your preferred gender? Does. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/21 06:23 AM |
| 10 | The phrase “you’re not entitled to sex”Because men can usually physically overpower women, men are socialized to channel all negative emotions into anger, and men do react with violence and/or anger to rejection frequently. Almost every woman has some experience with men reacting in anger/violence to rejection, and there have been some high-profile instances of murder attributed to rage about sexlessness. Certainly it's not all men but enough men that the threat feels real and present. You can't always know who will react violently u… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/21 06:18 AM |
| 8 | The phrase “you’re not entitled to sex”Why is it a knee jerk reaction to feel threatened by something which the majority of women have been actively threatened by? And which has objectively been the cause of a lot of violence? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/21 06:11 AM |
| 84 | The phrase “you’re not entitled to sex”why the difference in attitude in these two scenarios? Women desperate for a relationship are seen as more pathetic than threatening. Men desperate for sex are seen as more threatening than pathetic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/21 02:39 AM |
| 1 | What is it like being a straight women sexually?Also side note I saw your other post on this sub before it got deleted and just going to call out that male orgasms can be much more intense (on par with or even more intense than what you were envying with female orgasms) if you find your prostate. I recommend using plenty of lube and make sure anything you insert has a flared base, experiment a bit. Also going to call out that what you see in porn in terms of female orgasms is acting, most women don't get off nearly as easily or intensely as i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/21 01:23 AM |
| 1 | What is it like being a straight women sexually?Glad that helped 😊 Don't let angry internet randos drag you down just for existing as yourself, this is a pretty angry sub overall | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/21 01:08 AM |
| 1 | What is it like being a straight women sexually?Oh definitely the specific actions are a me thing. But that it's usually actions which are a turn on for women is not specific to me, it's just that for other women that could be any number of actions, like singing in a deep bass voice or shooting a bullseye or dunking a basketball. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/21 01:05 AM |
| 1 | What is it like being a straight women sexually?Just wanted to start off by saying that everything you've described is completely normal and not creepy. If you keep it to brief glances and don't try to engage then you're not going to be making people feel unsafe, it looks like some of the other commenters were trying to shame you for that but you have nothing you need to be ashamed of. And jerking off once a day is also totally normal, and it sounds like you're being responsible in wanting to focus on your studies before devoting too much ene… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/21 12:57 AM |
| 1 | TRP and TBP have a problem: they both lack balance that the other provides.The women you deal with (bisexuals and lesbians) are going to differ from women who are more heterosexually polarized The women I've been with have all been more hetero than not, in fact two of them have self-described as "straight with one exception," and those same two are currently engaged to marry men. They're all definitely in the hetero dating pool, and every one of them had been with men before me. I don't think it makes sense to characterize them as more different from 100% hetero women … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/21 10:14 AM |
| 1 | Women, what is the extent to which height matters on a man?I'd rather date someone who's less than a foot different from my height in either direction, but a bigger height difference isn't a dealbreaker. Within 6" of my height is ideal, I make no height distinctions within that range. I don't have a hard limit, but as noted in my first point, I prefer someone who's within a foot of my height. On the low side, that's 4'6". And ideal would be within 6" of my height, which means 5'0". 5' to 6'. 5'6" is the shortest man I've been with, and the shortest pers… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/21 04:30 AM |
| 0 | TRP and TBP have a problem: they both lack balance that the other provides.Yeah, this kind of red pill take is part of why I don't buy the ideology. Sure, some women want a partner who seems fully self-assured. And some (myself included) prefer a partner who's willing to connect intimately and be honest about insecurities. Everyone has insecurities. Women are individual human beings who each have their own preferences. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/21 04:01 AM |
| 1 | TRP and TBP have a problem: they both lack balance that the other provides.Because they focus on what makes men attractive to women. Lol I do not have most of what TRP says makes men attractive to women. I don't push my framing of an interaction or a dynamic, I'm neither tall nor muscular, I don't play dread games, I'm not particularly extroverted, and I intentionally show extra empathy when I am looking at someone as a sexual or romantic option. I do have plenty of success pulling men and women, though I'm also not a man. For me, an "active" approach involves direct c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/21 03:49 AM |
| 1 | TRP and TBP have a problem: they both lack balance that the other provides.Why do you think anything from the red pill is necessary in order to take an active approach to dating? I personally take an active role in dating (at all phases, from finding a date in the first place to maintaining a long term relationship) without employing red pill techniques or subscribing to red pill ideology. What are the main aspects of the red pill which you think are necessary in order to gain control over your dating life? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/21 01:56 AM |
| 0 | Would you rather have a purely casual relationship with a hot high status man, or a loving faithful relationship with an average man, and why?If you take out all the rest of the descriptions and just pare it down to "commitment from an average guy" or "no commitment from an attractive guy," then I could easily be happy with both of these. Including the full descriptions, I want neither guy. (a) is unappealing because even when there's no commitment or expectations or exclusivity, I want a casual FWB to actually be my friend and be someone who I can trust. I care much more about having this level of trust than about physical attractive… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/21 02:18 AM |
| 2 | Some level of “creepiness” amongst men is acceptable.Personally I would prefer if men I don't know never approached me or flirted with me, and I would prefer if men I do know only made flirtatious or suggestive comments in the context of having already had a direct discussion about our reciprocated interest. If this meant men never approached me, awesome, I can approach the ones I'm interested in without needing to wait for them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/21 02:05 AM |
| 1 | Women have no problem stating the negative effects of porn in relationships, but they conveniently ignore all of the benefits.I support (ethically-produced) porn usage and agree that all the circumstances you described are sensible times to bring in porn, and yet I feel like your overall relationship mindset is deeply unhealthy. It shouldn't be "permit porn or else risk cheating and/or abandonment." In a healthy relationship, you can share and/or discuss porn you enjoy with a partner and use it to spark conversations and understand each other better. If your partner is uncomfortable with the idea of porn, that's also a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/21 01:53 AM |
| 1 | Political and cultural differences in men and women are reasons for biggest divide between sexesTrue that there's a distinction between opportunities for casual sex and committed dating. I would question though whether the marriage stats are a relevant statistic given that marriage as an institution tends to be much more important to religious people, and religious people are more likely to be conservative. Anecdotally, I've been in a committed relationship with my primary partner for five years now, and he asked about marriage a couple of years ago, but it didn't seem important, so here w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/21 08:38 PM |
| 1 | Political and cultural differences in men and women are reasons for biggest divide between sexesAs a leftist woman living in a city, I agree strongly that these demographics are important. I have had many conservative men interested in me in spite of the fact that I'm outspoken about my own views because they were primarily interested in physical appearance or the fact that I shared male-dominated hobbies with them. While I have absolutely zero interest in dating or fucking someone conservative (socially or economically, and yes this definition of conservative includes libertarians). In ge… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/21 09:42 PM |
| 1 | How should men communicate financial independence/success to women without being relegated to the "provider" role?Clarifications: if your clothes/home/etc don't match your actual financial status, most women won't get the signal. And you can still buy thoughtful, personal inexpensive gifts and such without getting relegated to solely a provider role. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/21 09:09 PM |
| 1 | How should men communicate financial independence/success to women without being relegated to the "provider" role?Your financial situation can be shown by the clothes you wear, your car, describing what you do for a living, etc. If you don't want to be seen as a provider, don't buy expensive gifts or pay for expensive dates, and do talk about how you respect independent women. And be aware that if you aren't interested in taking on a provider role you probably won't attract many women who are more submissive and traditional, so hopefully you aren't interested in those sorts of women. You can't expect to fin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/21 09:03 PM |
| 1 | Q4M: Can you post examples of photos of an average guy?The incel chart isn't objective, because attractiveness isn't objective. on the male side the 2 and 4-8 meet my looks standards for fuckability while the 9 and 10s do not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/21 08:53 PM |
| 1 | What % of men are not stunning but just about fuckable if they have other desirable traits?I have personality standards which the vast majority of people don't meet, but if those standards are met then it's about 90% of men within five years of my age (early twenties to early thirties), probably around half between 18 and the bottom of my target age range and similar for mid to late thirties, less than 5% of men 40+. Though I expect that my tastes will change as I get older, given that when I was 18 it was about 95% of people 17-20, 20% of people 21-22 and less than 1% of the group th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/21 08:30 PM |
| 1 | Feminism Mega ThreadI have seen your most recent comments responding to me; this is an acknowledgement that I have read them. As I said, I'm no longer responding to your comments. This is because I don't think I can respond positively to this level of entrenched antifeminism and misunderstanding of consent. I don't hate you, and because I don't want to devolve to addressing you disrespectfully or to start seeing this as a problem for you rather than the societal problem it is, I don't think it's helpful for me to c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/21 04:19 AM |
| 1 | Feminism Mega ThreadMaybe that should tell you something. No, I can see where you'll go with that, so let me clarify: The cause you so ardently support hurts people more than it helps. Feminism literally destroys lives. If you can't wade through the pain it causes without feeling depressed, that's a good thing. Use that feeling to start being more critical of feminism. You assumed that what makes me depressed is compassion for the struggles of people affected negatively by feminism or questioning the causes I suppo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/21 01:31 AM |
| 1 | Feminism Mega ThreadThe same logic got prohobition made into a constitutional amendment. https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/01/13/prohibition-women-blame-history-223972 'Moral authority' was used as an argument for everything from why men shouldn't be caretakers of children to supporting the 'purchasing' aspect of coverture laws. Coverture laws meaning...the laws that took away a woman's rights and property when she got married? How is anything related to coverture laws an imposition of women on men?? Mor… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/21 11:51 PM |
| 1 | Feminism Mega ThreadIf it's not 'dominated by male control' then call it something else. There's plenty of good words to use. Discrimination. Prejudice. Systemic bias. It is dominated by male control, particularly in areas of political and corporate leadership. It does not have to be 100% dominated by male control to be overall dominated by male control. If in a couple one person got their way 70% of the time there was a conflict, I would say that person was dominating the relationship. Same deal. Discrimination, p… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/21 11:02 PM |
| 1 | Feminism Mega ThreadPolice reform is BLM, not feminism. BLM is its own movement, but it's strongly supported by intersectional feminists, it has been built on feminist organizational structures & fundraising, and its goals are a necessary part of gender equality. It's part of the growth of feminism that it can act in a support role without having to hog the screentime and messaging. Sexual harrassment has over-corrected in a huge way, and men have little to no defense currently. What do you think is the appropriate… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/21 10:41 PM |
| 1 | Feminism Mega ThreadNo. That ideology is not 'patriarchal'. It is matriarchal. It was campaigned for and enshrined in law in Britain under the premise that women were more moral, caring, and just better than men. If the premise was that women were more moral, caring, or generally better than men, why would this ideology limit that characterization to the sphere of parenting and home life? Wouldn't people who genuinely believed that also want women to be in control of the political systems and businesses which impac… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/21 10:01 PM |
| 1 | Feminism Mega Thread1) A society doesn't need to be 100% dominated by male control in order to have a patriarchal structure. Your use of "legitimately patriarchal" to implicitly delegitimize patriarchy in the modern day is unhelpful. 2) Contextually, the "patriarchy" in this quote is descriptive of patriarchy the author has personally experienced (modern-day western patriarchy). The quote isn't meant to describe or classify all historical patriarchal systems. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/21 09:27 PM |
| 1 | Feminism Mega ThreadFeminism didn't exist as "a force for legal, political, or social change" throughout history. Arguing this is a requirement is deeply flawed. Explain what part of my logical process and/or premises is flawed, then. Premises: (1) I want to help make progress towards a more equal society and see progress within my lifetime. (2) I have limited time, resources, and connections, and I am not willing to devote all my free time and resources to this effort. Changing society as a whole in any substantia… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/21 08:54 PM |
| 2 | Feminism Mega ThreadYou might also find this essay on the intersections of men's rights and feminism interesting: https://onourterms.barnard.edu/article/finding-common-ground/ And I'll leave you with another quote from bell hooks (who has contributed hugely to the theory of intersectional feminism but also, like everyone else, is human and therefore imperfect): "The process begins with the individual woman’s acceptance that American women, without exception, are socialized to be racist, classist and sexist, in vary… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/21 12:42 AM |
| 1 | Feminism Mega ThreadFeminism only has this mandate for women, and is radio silent about what harms men Or maybe you just don't know very much about what feminists say? Have you read anything written by bell hooks (a very prominent feminist)? Here is a quote: "The first act of violence that patriarchy demands of males is not violence toward women. Instead patriarchy demands of all males that they engage in acts of psychic self-mutilation, that they kill off the emotional parts of themselves. If an individual is not … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/21 12:24 AM |
| 1 | Q4W: Why do you buy more expensive pink shit and then complain that the patriarchy made you do it?Thank you 😊 It's easy to get excited by a solution that seems like a silver bullet, but realistically, addressing global problems is rarely simple. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/21 11:55 PM |
| 3 | What is the percentage of cheaters in your female friend group?Depends on where you cut off the size of my friend group. As far as I'm aware, only one of my female friends has cheated. (Same for my male friends, I only know of one who has cheated.) She's one of my closer friends, so she would be included in any circle, but idk if you would consider my circle of female friends to include my closest five female friends? My closest twenty? I have about 9 female friends (and 7 male friends) who I talk to at least once per week, and if you add in the people who … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/21 02:42 AM |
| 1 | How physically attracted to you does a man need to be?If your partner does happen to be full of barely-contained lust every time they see you, I don't think that's a bad thing. I just think it's a bad thing to have that as a required standard for every partner you have. People have different libidos, age is a factor, if you expect to always have raging lust for your partner (or vice versa) you'll be missing out on some people who might be very compatible with you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/21 02:16 AM |
| 1 | How physically attracted to you does a man need to be?Attracted enough to me overall (looks + personality + anything else that factors into your attraction) to want to have sex with me and to feel happy about being in a relationship with me (not resentful, not making plans to try to leave me for someone "better") I don't think it's practical, desirable, or reasonable to require your partner to be full of barely-contained lust every time they see you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/21 02:14 AM |
| 1 | Weekly Community Chat Megathread15, though I never had a sexual relationship with her. I was 22 the first time I had romantic feelings about someone who I was in a sexual relationship with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/21 02:00 AM |
| 4 | Feminism Mega ThreadWhy should women have equality? Both because I (like many people) believe everyone should have equality of opportunity and because it causes the next generation to be healthier and better-educated. Which specific forms of equality should women have? Political opportunity, legally guaranteed rights, and (lack of) societal prejudice around gender roles. What would the forms of equality youd like to see look like? When going on dates, splitting the bill is the social norm. Stores don't market their… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/21 01:53 AM |
| 1 | Feminism Mega ThreadSource for rape lasting at least a few minutes is every study on how long sexual intercourse lasts. There are many of them. This is about how long it takes a man to cum, and that timing isn't going to change drastically based on whether it's consensual or not. Here's one study: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16422843/ Source for assault that's not rape often being over in a few seconds: I've seen guys fight, and I've been physically assaulted, and it has in my anecdotal experience never taken l… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/21 11:54 PM |
| 2 | Feminism Mega ThreadAnd your justification for your claim is your subjective assessment that the pain and injuries of non-sexual assault are worse than sexual assault. I have seen no sources from you providing evidence that the pain and injuries are more minor on average with rape than with non-sexual assault. If you don't have a source to prove it, why do you think your argument is non-subjective? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/21 10:48 PM |
| 3 | Feminism Mega ThreadIt's wrong to think of modern feminism as an effort to guarantee more legal rights for women. Modern feminism is an effort to make the overall standing of men and women more equal in society. Many of the biggest factors creating inequality currently are related either directly or indirectly to reproduction and parental rights. For example, neither men nor women have the right to paid parental leave in much of the US, though women who work for large companies are required to have access to some u… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/21 09:11 PM |
| 1 | Feminism Mega Thread... I don't think anyone compassionate wants 1 or 4 5 (with protections for prostitutes) is commonly supported by feminists I personally support 5 and 6 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/21 08:44 PM |
| 1 | Feminism Mega ThreadHon that's not what the study says. The study says you can't tell if someone had consensual or nonconsensual sex by looking at their injuries, which is different from saying there's no difference in whether you're more likely to be injured from consensual or nonconsensual sex. Also the relevant comparison isn't people who had consensual sex. It's people who didn't have intercourse at all. Comparing to people who had consensual sex is like comparing injuries of someone who got mugged to someone w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/21 08:33 PM |
| 1 | Feminism Mega ThreadThat's not a standard you're holding yourself to | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/21 08:23 PM |
| 1 | Feminism Mega Thread...so why should your subjective feelings about rape be the standard for determining what the worst kinds of assault are? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/21 08:23 PM |
| 2 | Feminism Mega ThreadThe least bad form of assault? Rape lasts a minimum of a few minutes, while most non-sexual physical assaults are over within a few seconds. Rape can easily result in an incurable STD that affects you for the rest of your life (causing pain, embarrassment, and/or relationship difficulties). Many other forms of non-sexual physical assault will result in zero injury, or they will result in injuries that last less than a week. And rape often also includes pain and tearing of regions of the body tha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/21 08:18 PM |
| 5 | Men in this sub focus so much on high-n women because they’re the women they’re viscerally attracted toThat and regardless of where you meet, the math is that the percent of high-n women who a typical guy has fucked will be higher than the percent of high-n women who exist. E.g., if half of women had a count of ten and half had a count of two, then 5/6 of the women the average guy has fucked will have a count of ten. And a lot of men don't notice women outside the context of sex and/or won't know a woman's n-count unless he's been with her. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/21 07:56 PM |
| 1 | Patriarchy is Far More Destructive to Modern Men than it is WomenThe women who become only fans creators view it as an easy way to cash in on their looks and live a comfortable lifestyle without having to devote much effort toward anything. How do you think they are living "a comfortable lifestyle" just from OF when the average creator makes less than $200/month from OF? And why do you think it's so low-effort? Photography is a skill, and producing enough content to keep fans can be a significant time sink. Can you provide a clear example of this? https://new… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/21 03:20 PM |
| 1 | Patriarchy is Far More Destructive to Modern Men than it is WomenClarification: treating someone in an objectifying way is always a choice, but feelings of arousal usually are not a choice. There is no need to act on feelings of arousal, and modest clothes do not necessarily prevent arousal. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/21 02:38 PM |
| 1 | Patriarchy is Far More Destructive to Modern Men than it is WomenI'm not saying that dressing modestly renders you impervious to objectification, anymore than I'd say wearing a seatbelt guarantees your safety in a car accident. The big difference between these situations is that a car accident is an accident, whereas objectification is a choice. You should wear a seatbelt because you can't guarantee road safety even if no one intentionally harms you. But you cannot be objectified by accident. The concept of modest clothing as a safeguard is equivalent to the … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/21 01:40 PM |
| 1 | Patriarchy is Far More Destructive to Modern Men than it is WomenJust want to say that I think it's great that you introspected on this and are willing to have an open mind on several of the topics we've been discussing. Also if you do want to DM me in addition to these public posts, feel free. And sorry for the extra-long delay in my responses, I usually sign in on Reddit at least a few times per week but the past month has been busy for me IRL. If I don't respond to you for a while, I'm not ignoring or ghosting, I'm probably just not logging into Reddit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/21 01:04 PM |
| 1 | Patriarchy is Far More Destructive to Modern Men than it is WomenThe reason so many men do things that get them locked up is because they don't feel like they any support system. This is true, but it's a separate issue from unjust male incarceration. I would classify the cultural issues (e.g., men not having a support system) which cause men to commit more crimes as an issue of disproportionate male criminality. The issue of unjust male incarceration I would define as men receiving less leniency in sentencing than women for committing the same crime. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/21 12:57 PM |
| 1 | Patriarchy is Far More Destructive to Modern Men than it is WomenMy understanding of it is that the issues I'm calling attention toward are the symptoms and not the actual problem. This is valid, though it wasn't what I was trying to call attention to. Let me see if I can rephrase this better: a) Do you recognize that the work you do to improve the lives of the men around you often doesn't contribute to solving broader systemic issues of the sort you bring up when you talk with feminists? E.g., getting your friend a drink when he's had a bad day doesn't impac… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/21 12:51 PM |
| 1 | Patriarchy is Far More Destructive to Modern Men than it is WomenI guess I'm trying to say that I feel my best shot at helping the most men is by helping my damn self first, as well as the people close to me, and letting that positive effect reverberate outwards. Not knowing your situation, maybe that's true. If you're in the in-between zone where you're fortunate enough to be able to lead by example while not being fortunate enough to have significant extra resources you could offer in support of a larger cause, this may be true for you personally. However, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/21 11:34 AM |
| 1 | Patriarchy is Far More Destructive to Modern Men than it is WomenI strongly disagree with (a) the idea that someone who has a poor life should try to better themselves before engaging in activism, (b) the idea that most people in our society will do more good just living their own lives to the best of their ability rather than making the effort to change broader systems, and (c) the idea that putting effort into activism is mutually exclusive with putting effort into living your own best life. Consider as an example the dysfunction of the modern US medical sy… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/21 11:21 AM |
| 1 | Patriarchy is Far More Destructive to Modern Men than it is WomenExcellent recommendations thus far. Glad it's been useful for you! where the study of evolutionairy biology and close observation of your hormonal profiles not only suggest that you indeed generally are, but clearly explain why Link me to studies supporting this? With respect to evolutionary biology, I have yet to see gender theory in this field which is more than speculative, and with respect to hormonal profiles, my understanding is that modern medical science does not have clear conclusions a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/21 10:39 AM |
| 1 | Patriarchy is Far More Destructive to Modern Men than it is WomenOh, I fully agree there are valid reasons to hate Hillary Clinton. The thing is that the reasons to hate her (and specifically the kinds of activities called out in the video you linked) don't differentiate her from, say, Obama or George W. Bush, and neither of those male politicians have nearly the same level of vitriol directed at them for corporate ties or hawkish behavior. It's not wrong in an absolute sense to find her unpleasant, but one has to wonder why she is judged so much more harshly… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/21 10:30 AM |
| 1 | Patriarchy is Far More Destructive to Modern Men than it is WomenWomen seek empathy and attention in distress. Men seek cooperation and solutions. Both of these descriptions are so vague as to be meaningless. Was #metoo a call for empathy and attention to individual women's stories, or was it a cooperative solution to the problem of powerful abusers continuing to roam free and add tallies to their lists of victims? I would say it was both. When you give a "pat on the back after hearing from a male friend about a rough day," are you providing empathy and atten… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/21 11:01 AM |
| 1 | Patriarchy is Far More Destructive to Modern Men than it is WomenI agree that all the activities you've mentioned are ways in which you can help improve the quality of others' lives and make a difference. What I was asking though was whether you have done anything that addresses the specific topics which you bring up when talking to feminists. If you care about (for example) unjust male incarceration, I don't think anything you've described above would help address that specific issue. And if you aren't working at all to address that specific issue, doesn't i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/21 10:26 AM |
| 1 | Patriarchy is Far More Destructive to Modern Men than it is WomenAnd, the problem with this is? That you are coming into conversations with real people having done the least prep yet approaching with the mindset that your views are equally valid. In school, did you ever have a discussion group where one person clearly hadn't done the reading but was highly vocal and opinionated anyway? That's the role you are taking when you enter a conversation without having done background research first. It's not the end of the world, but it also isn't very respectful or … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/21 09:50 AM |
| 1 | Patriarchy is Far More Destructive to Modern Men than it is WomenIf being recognized primarily for your physicality nets you social and financial advantage That's a big assumption. (1) most onlyfans content creators and instagram models make very little money from this, either directly or indirectly; (2) there's a time limit on how long a woman can realistically make any money from this at all; (3) when people find out a woman is doing onlyfans, there is usually massive social disapproval, and "insta thots" aren't getting a clear social advantage either; (4) … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/21 09:13 AM |
| 1 | Patriarchy is Far More Destructive to Modern Men than it is WomenI believe you that the association exists, I'm just saying I wasn't aware of that interpretation before. It's not a common usage of the meme within my social circles. In my social circles, the most common usage of Karen memes is to criticize white or UMC entitlement, criticizing boomer culture is also common, and it's not always used to criticize women (e.g., my friends were calling both of the McCloskeys "Karen" after their BLM confrontation). It's absolutely fair though to say that my social c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/21 02:56 AM |
| 2 | Your opinion regarding male pattern hair loss at a young age...Aesthetically if I’m not planning to get intimate with the guy I think bald or not-bald on average looks equally good, but not-bald has more variety (some hairstyles look very appealing to me, others look ugly to me, bald is pretty neutral). If I am emotionally close (platonically or otherwise) to a person, I often like to touch and play with their hair. From a tactile perspective, bald is worse than most kinds of hair. My personal ranking would be soft thick hair > coarse thick hair > soft thin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/21 08:43 PM |
| 5 | Your opinion regarding male pattern hair loss at a young age...Surprise! /s Women have a variety of views on this. Many (possibly the plurality) of women feel neutral about it, but a lot more women have a negative view than a positive view of baldness. So on average you’ll find that more women are attracted to the same guy not-bald relative to how attractive they find him bald. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/21 08:33 PM |
| 3 | Exactly how is casual sex different from sex within a relationship? And which one is "better" to you?What's the point of consistency if it's boring lol. Depends on your personality, but I'm sure some men prefer consistency while others have values more similar to yours For dry spells just fill em with hookers This again is something that works for some men, but many want the validation of being wanted without paying, and some just can't afford prostitutes | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/21 05:50 AM |
| 4 | Exactly how is casual sex different from sex within a relationship? And which one is "better" to you?Relationship sex is way better. My partner already knows what I like and is unlikely to do something which would really turn me off, and I know which of my kinks are ok vs. off-limits. In a relationship, I don't have to pause or lose momentum explaining how I operate, and it's easy for me to feel comfortable and relaxed. I have zero interest in casual sex, I can't be turned on unless it's with someone I trust. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/21 05:47 AM |
| 3 | Exactly how is casual sex different from sex within a relationship? And which one is "better" to you?Choosing relationships over casual is a sacrifice made for NOTHING (for men at least For most men, isn't the point to get consistency/frequency of sex? Married or partnered men are much more likely to have frequent sex than single men. (Also, who said you have to choose? XD) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/21 05:40 AM |
| 1 | Patriarchy is Far More Destructive to Modern Men than it is WomenIf you felt "swatted" by some of my responses, sorry, that wasn't my intention. I was referring to the reception you've said you usually get when you have conversations with feminists (in which they're highly aggressive), not myself! But I can see how it would be easy to read that as a reference to our discussion, it's not like you're pulling it out of thin air. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/21 05:19 AM |
| 3 | Weekly Community Chat MegathreadWhere do you live that this isn't socially acceptable? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/21 01:54 AM |
| 1 | Weekly Community Chat MegathreadHave some respect, at least lick my boots before you try begging for degradation | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/02/21 10:16 PM |
| 1 | Weekly Community Chat MegathreadDid she ever say that goal-oriented behavior was wrong in general? My interpretation was that she said it's only wrong if you treat someone poorly when you have no goal with them and well when you have a goal with them. But obviously there are plenty of goal-oriented behaviors where they're neutral with respect to treating people well/poorly. For example, if I want something that a person is selling, I will approach them, give them my attention, and have a conversation about the purchase, wherea… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/02/21 09:12 PM |
| 1 | Weekly Community Chat MegathreadOr are you saying that a woman who doesn't casually flirt and show off her body is treating others poorly? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/02/21 08:49 PM |
| 2 | Weekly Community Chat MegathreadTo clarify, are you saying that a woman casually flirting with someone she doesn't have long-term interest in and/or showing off her body is treating others poorly? I think a lot of men who enjoy looking at and receiving attention from sexy women would disagree. TIL that every time I have worn yoga pants or a low-cut shirt in public I was treating men poorly. 🧐 /s | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/02/21 08:45 PM |
| 2 | Weekly Community Chat MegathreadI only sleep with people I know well and trust and after they've had an STD test, so for oral sex and pegging I'm ok forgoing barrier protection. For PiV, never. I have an IUD, but unless I want to get pregnant or the guy has a vasectomy the condom is mandatory. I skip periods about half the time, and I don't want to give myself the paranoia of "what if I'm the unlucky 0.1%?" every time that happens. The condom brings the annual probability to about 0.01%, which is small enough that I feel safe … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/02/21 08:33 PM |
| 3 | Weekly Community Chat MegathreadI think I might not have explained the "anti-sex drive" well. The anti-sex drive does not reduce the sex drive, but it changes how a person behaves. Your comment about poisoned food is a good analogy. If you are very hungry and there is food you know is poisoned in front of you, the fact that it's poisoned doesn't make you less hungry. But it does make you less likely to grab the food and scarf it down, and it might make you more likely to try eating just a few bites to see if you can strike a b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/21 05:49 AM |
| 1 | What's the average body count for men and women?a) do you think being poly or liberal would make a person likely to be non-representative in a low-N kind of way? If so, why? b) my anecdotes included IRL friends, most of whom are not poly c) I also brought up survey data, which is not anecdotal experience | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/21 03:08 AM |
| 1 | Hold up...isnt EVERYONE Hypergamous?Where hypergamy comes in is when women think they can leverage vaginas to get relationships from men with status power or wealth. If a woman who makes $40k thinks she can land a relationship with a man who makes $50k, is that hypergamy? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/21 03:01 AM |
| 1 | Hold up...isnt EVERYONE Hypergamous?So are you saying that hypergamy is when a woman requires a physically unattractive guy to compensate for his looks with money and attention? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/21 01:45 AM |
| 0 | Weekly Community Chat MegathreadThere's a spectrum of sex drives and levels of desire for orgasm. There's also a spectrum of anti-sex drive factors (everything from fear of pregnancy/STDs to fear of slut-shaming to fear of violence), which for most men are fairly minor relative to how high these anti-sex drive factors are in women. When you add the sex drive to the anti-sex drive and look at the net result, the average is definitely higher for men. But for both men and women there's a spectrum, and the male spectrum overlaps w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/21 01:41 AM |
| 1 | Weekly Community Chat MegathreadAnd the PPD discord frequently rates pics too | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/21 01:20 AM |
| 3 | Weekly Community Chat MegathreadThis is free for the basic (slow) version: https://www.photofeeler.com/ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/21 01:19 AM |
| 1 | Hold up...isnt EVERYONE Hypergamous?Female hypergamy is what drives women to expect that a guy that's a 5 should have to give her additional time and attention, and romance and pay for dates when a guy that's an 8 shouldn't have to. So women will leverage the fact that society gives their vaginas intrinsic value and trade that in for a guy they deem sexually attractive enough. You really going to say "Hypergamy has nothing to do with looks or sex" and then immediately follow up by saying hypergamy is when a woman treats a 5 differ… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/21 01:14 AM |
| 1 | What's the average body count for men and women?Did ranting about what you see random non-representative people brag about online make you feel better? I do believe what I wrote because it's reflective of my own and my IRL friends' experiences and survey data. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/21 10:46 PM |
| 1 | Patriarchy is Far More Destructive to Modern Men than it is WomenAs a general rule, women do not like being objectified, and I hope you operate on that assumption in your daily dealings with women. There are some exceptions, and in particular during sex there are a decent number of women who have a fetish for being objectified. But the vast majority of the times women are objectified in public life, the woman in question either actively does not want to be objectified or doesn't really care either way about being objectified and is using objectification as a … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/21 10:33 PM |
| 1 | Patriarchy is Far More Destructive to Modern Men than it is WomenBooty shorts are a choice. This is extremely tone deaf. Let me show you an exhibition: https://dovecenter.org/what-were-you-wearing-exhibit/ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/21 10:25 PM |
| 1 | Patriarchy is Far More Destructive to Modern Men than it is WomenOh, and the negative effects on men that occur when they objectify women? There are mirrored effects for all of them. Men miss out on real connections they could have with women? Women miss out on real connections they have with men. Men see sleeping with women as a meaningless checklist? Women feel used. Men feel pressured to behave in non-genuine ways to manipulate women? Women get manipulated and feel pressure to behave in non-genuine ways to protect themselves. Can you think of any way men a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/21 10:20 PM |
| 1 | Patriarchy is Far More Destructive to Modern Men than it is WomenIt's true that women (and humans in general) often like to receive attention and validation. But I think you're missing a lot of important context: Many women have internalized that their bodies are their primary or only value that's worth receiving validation for. The mentality isn't "I want to be ogled," it's "I want to be liked. If I want people to like me, I have to compete in looks." Is it so much better to feel pressured into a rat race competing in good looks than to feel pressured into a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/21 10:13 PM |
| 1 | Patriarchy is Far More Destructive to Modern Men than it is WomenFair discussion. I learned quite a but. Which was my aim in doing this. So thanks! Glad to hear it 🙂 Hence the classical "Karen" trope. Interesting. I'm familiar with the "Karen" trope being associated with whiteness, middle-aged people, women, and UMC status (especially a confluence of multiple of these), but I haven't previously heard it connected to feminism. Well, that's one new thing you've made me aware of | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/21 09:42 PM |
| 1 | Patriarchy is Far More Destructive to Modern Men than it is WomenI'm not uninterested. I'm just trying to direct you to further resources because I know that a single conversation with me isn't going to change your perspective overnight, and I don't plan to have a sustained conversation with you over the course of several months. And again, sorry for the condescension, it is definitely something I have to watch. I'll admit I was a bit less cautious with you than I should have been when I saw your comments about being thick-skinned, but I recognize also that s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/21 09:37 PM |
| 1 | Patriarchy is Far More Destructive to Modern Men than it is WomenI know that condescension isn't helpful to my goals. I'm only human, too, so forgive me if my presentation is imperfect. I have actually successfully censored some of the most-condescending things I've written here, and I purposefully engage with these topics more in writing than verbally because it gives me that opportunity to self-censor and ik that condescension is something I'm prone to. But if you do want a friendlier experience, I highly recommend searching through some of the existing con… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/21 09:29 PM |
| 1 | Patriarchy is Far More Destructive to Modern Men than it is WomenTo learn where my ideological blind spots are. Do you think you have learned anything that significantly changes your PoV? If so, what? I think everyone on the internet has already heard the various grievances women have about patriarchy. The reason to restate them in a comparison piece is to frame them so that people understand why you think they're less important. For example, do you think that it's worse to be "taught to view women as merely bodies” than to be seen as merely a body? Or do you… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/21 08:52 PM |
| 1 | Hold up...isnt EVERYONE Hypergamous?In terms of the dictionary definition, yes. In terms of how people use the word on this forum and other similar forums? There are plenty of men who say hypergamy is the reason when a woman who's a 5 in looks won't have casual sex with a guy unless he's at least an 8 in looks. I take a descriptive rather than a prescriptive approach to linguistics, so I'm using the word inclusive of the many inconsistent ways I've seen it used. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/21 06:40 PM |
| 1 | It's true beauty standards change depending on time and culture, but only for women...Where did it say broad shoulders went out of fashion? The section on the David Bowie look does that actually prove the women of the time genuinely preferred small over large We have written texts from that time saying that a small penis was a sign of intellect and a large one demonstrated barbarity and/or stupidity. Here's a more in-depth explanation: https://www.artsy.net/article/artsy-editorial-ancient-greek-sculptures-small-penises it doesn't negate large being the ideal for every other perio… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/21 06:30 PM |
| 1 | Patriarchy is Far More Destructive to Modern Men than it is WomenI also don't think it's a technique used exclusively in bad faith. I said that it's frequently used in bad faith, and as a result many progressives have a kneejerk negative reaction. I am not making any claims about whether you are or are not acting in bad faith when you start conversations with feminists. What I'm saying is that if you approach in the way you've described, it is likely that you put people in a defensive/combative mindset because your style is similar to the style of many people… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/21 06:01 PM |
| 7 | It's true beauty standards change depending on time and culture, but only for women...Did you read the article you linked? It describes men's beauty standards as changing over time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/21 09:16 AM |
| 3 | It's true beauty standards change depending on time and culture, but only for women...The article OP linked described broad shoulders as going in and out of fashion, and definitely big dicks were not in style in ancient Greece | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/21 09:14 AM |
| 7 | Hold up...isnt EVERYONE Hypergamous?No, it assumes that men also take the best they can get, but our lovely pals in the manosphere think it isn't hypergamy when men take the best they can get because (a) for casual sex the best they can get is likely to be less attractive than they are just by virtue of supply and demand, and (b) for LTRs the best they can get is likely to make less money than they do because if you match two people who are at the exact same income percentile for their gender the man makes more | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/21 07:58 AM |
| 1 | What's the average body count for men and women?Yeah I agree but I think we’re in the minority, and it makes a pretty big difference in my count 😅 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/21 07:53 AM |
| 9 | What's the average body count for men and women?lolol all the men on here like "every girl I've casually hooked up with had a much higher N count, your numbers must be wrong" No guys it's just that if your sample is "women who have casual sex with me" it's going to skew high just by virtue of the fact that you had casual sex with her Most women are not having casual sex at all or do it like once in their lives and then say "meh this isn't for me" and never do it again. Edit: also people really don't have consistency in whether they think oral… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/21 02:39 AM |
| 8 | Hold up...isnt EVERYONE Hypergamous?The manosphere attributes hypergamy to women because they're focused on casual sex. In LTRs hypergamy isn't particularly a gendered thing (as you've said, most people regardless of gender want the best they can get) but for casual sex there are a lot more men in the market than women, so "the best you can get" is usually matching up for women and matching down for men. Also some of them define hypergamy by absolute wealth or height which is kinda stupid because the average man is taller and has … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/21 01:19 AM |
| 3 | Can we all agree that power games is fucking exhausting?It's a vicious cycle. If you're in a loop where you always feel like people are holding back with you and drip-feeding, break the cycle by being effusive yourself. Most people cautiously reciprocate with energy that's matched or slightly lower-intensity than what they receive, and when everyone does that, no one is happy. When you're effusive, sometimes you'll get burned by a user, and sometimes you'll be interacting with a person who's too nervous to reciprocate, but more often people will be s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/21 12:33 AM |
| 1 | Looking at your history, have you mostly been dating "up" or "down"?I usually date down in conventional physical attractiveness, and the people I've pursued unsuccessfully were also usually less conventionally attractive than me. This is partially because I am not attracted to features that are typically considered the most conventionally attractive (e.g., when dating men I prefer an androgynous look) and partially because I have narrow standards for non-physical features, e.g., I require high levels of nerdiness and progressive feminist politics | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/21 09:47 PM |
| 1 | Patriarchy is Far More Destructive to Modern Men than it is WomenI would agree that I'm an egalitarian, but I more often describe myself as a feminist because there isn't an "egalitarian" political movement, and I do agree with the core principles of feminism and many of the policy suggestions made by feminists. Enough that I think my goals can more effectively be accomplished by aligning in the existing coalition rather than trying to form my own new coalition. I don't have to be the one to bring up discrepancies in male-female treatment in the criminal just… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/21 09:35 PM |
| 1 | Patriarchy is Far More Destructive to Modern Men than it is WomenI suppose that makes me a feminist by those terms. Welcome to the movement 😜 I believe men doing that kind of thing consider themselves MRA's and would ally themselves with that demographic MRAs are a small portion of the overall population, but men who bash women or think that women are inferior are everywhere on the internet and express many vastly differing forms of sexism. You've got everyone from the guy who just broke up with a girlfriend and is like "bitches be crazy" to the trad men who … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/21 08:58 PM |
| 2 | Patriarchy is Far More Destructive to Modern Men than it is WomenWe need to establish common ground on the definition of feminist. Someone who believes that social, economic, and political rights and roles should be independent of gender. I've been acting under the assumption that anyone bashing men on the internet and promoting the concept of masculinity as a toxic force in the world is operationally feminist This is a poor assumption. Do you assume that anyone bashing women or promoting the idea that women are inferior on the internet is a men's rights acti… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/21 01:30 PM |
| 2 | Patriarchy is Far More Destructive to Modern Men than it is Women1) Most of the random women you see criticizing men on social media are not feminists. When you say that feminists are the chief contributors to the idea of men being toxic, how are you assessing which comments are from feminists? 2) There is a difference between saying that men are toxic vs. that traditional masculine expectations are toxic. Fixing the problematic expectations for men (e.g., that men need to be breadwinners to be valuable) helps both men and women. 3) Feminism has had many succ… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/21 01:37 AM |
| 2 | Patriarchy is Far More Destructive to Modern Men than it is WomenCertainly patriarchy hurts both men and women. Patriarchy reduces men to their financial status and women to their beauty/fertility. You’re right that the status of modern women is significantly improved relative to previous decades and centuries, while men have not had such major status shifts. However this isn’t because patriarchy is inherently worse for men; it’s because by and large men have not rejected patriarchy and gender roles as applied to themselves, whereas western women have taken s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/21 12:28 AM |
| 1 | If you’re a woman who is threatened by TRP, you’re exactly why it exists in the first place.No, my question was what you meant when you said “the one they’re warning men about.” My understanding is that TRP warns men against divorce rape and oneitis. I don’t see how a woman who has negative views of TRP fits in a category of women that TRP is warning about | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/21 06:02 AM |
| -1 | If you’re a woman who is threatened by TRP, you’re exactly why it exists in the first place.What is exactly is TRP threatening? Trust, child support legislation, insecure young women, family stability, and women’s time & mental health. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/21 05:58 AM |
| 12 | If you’re a woman who is threatened by TRP, you’re exactly why it exists in the first place.A woman who has her shit together and who doesn’t let men play games with her should not be threatened by the idea of RP If you're selfish and only care about yourself, sure. I care about a lot of people who don't have their shit together as much as I do, and I care about the overall status of women. TRP threatens both of these. the one they’re warning men about What does this even mean? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/21 01:52 PM |
| 1 | What do men and women think a man asking a woman out signifies? What about the date activity, drinks or dinner - what does that signify?When a guy asks me on a date, it signals to me that he thinks I'm hot and does not know me well. It doesn't mean he cares about me; just the fact that he's asking signals that he doesn't know me well enough to care about me. I have zero interest in this. I always reject them. I have only ever gone on dates with people I was already seriously involved with and with whom I had already had sex. I get to know people as friends before asking them if they're interested in a relationship (either romant… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/21 01:39 PM |
| 1 | Do you think BDSM pretty much universllay being "woman focused" says something about sexuality?I’m not going to gatekeep who can call themselves a domme Sure sounded like you were trying to one would have thought that this demographic would be where there existed women who transcend the most annoying aspects of female gender norms: 1) transactional relationships 2) need for physical and economic protection As I said, we do exist, it's just that it's rare to see a person who hits none of your three criteria. And for the record, I think that only one of the three items you called out (being… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/21 01:22 PM |
| 1 | Weekly Community Chat Megathreadif the IQ difference between different races is due to culture, then there is some genetics differences on developing their culture. Um, where do you get the idea that cultural differences are encoded in our genes? I think my point about adopted children still stands. An adopted child can get brought up in a culture which is different from the culture of the people they are genetically most closely related to, and then they typically continue within the adoptive culture for the rest of their liv… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/21 07:52 AM |
| 1 | Do you think BDSM pretty much universllay being "woman focused" says something about sexuality?I still think its incredibly rare that there is no sexual attraction from the sub's side, even when going to a dungeon and not doing anything sexual. I wouldnt do aynthing like that with someone Im not attracted to (for example a man). BDSM is inherently sort of sexual to me. Maybe it isnt for everyone. It isn't inherently sexual for everyone, but I agree with you that a total lack of sexual attraction would be rare. However, I don't think that the existence of sexual attraction on the sub's par… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/21 07:48 AM |
| 2 | Do you think BDSM pretty much universllay being "woman focused" says something about sexuality?what I believe is innate in masculinity . is the logical , assertiveness the fortitude the leadership sort of behavior . I believe that definition of masculinity permeates throughout all different eras. Assertiveness is definitely not part of what's been considered masculine throughout most historical East Asian cultures. And logic has for a long time been seen as un-masculine in most western cultures if it is prioritized over dominance/aggression (e.g., if a physically weak man logically decide… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/21 03:26 AM |
| 2 | Do you think BDSM pretty much universllay being "woman focused" says something about sexuality?they’re all “gender normative” to a varying degree of extremity 1) You can be a real domme while being gender normative to a great degree. Many real dommes paint their nails, wear makeup, know how to cook, etc. I said that most femdom (the relationship and/or sexual dynamic) subverts gender norms, but that doesn't mean that most dommes who participate in femdom are on balance going against societal gender norms when you look at their lives as a whole. 2) If you're using the qualifier of "to a va… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/21 03:11 AM |
| 2 | Do you think BDSM pretty much universllay being "woman focused" says something about sexuality?traditional masculinity is real masculinity it comes from a innate nature of men . How can it be innate when it has varied so much based on time and region? Masculinity in ancient China had a high emphasis on respect for your place in life and filial piety. Masculinity in 17th-century France meant wearing makeup and high heels. a submissive man is not strong Submissive and dominant men can be strong or weak. Being submissive or dominant doesn’t make you strong or weak necessarily. think of it li… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/21 02:33 AM |
| 2 | Do you think BDSM pretty much universllay being "woman focused" says something about sexuality?Are 99% of women’s Fetlife profiles also a minority? 99% of women’s Fetlife profiles are not dommes. Within the BDSM community, women are much more likely to be subs or switches than dommes, and many people on Fetlife aren’t even into D/s at all, e.g., maybe they are exhibitionists but don’t strongly associate with any D/s role. Pretty sure I have never seen a profile of a “Domme” that doesn’t 1) charge money for her services, 2) expect her “sub” to be alpha on the outside, rich, big, strong etc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/21 01:44 AM |
| 2 | Do you think BDSM pretty much universllay being "woman focused" says something about sexuality?can you tell me about those a bit more? Some of the most common themes for dynamics that dommes get off on are: being trusted with a sub’s vulnerability and having that close emotional connection aesthetic appeal inherent to the sub (sometimes conventional attractiveness but also often a less-conventional look) aesthetic appeal of something BDSM-related (e.g., liking the look of shibari or bruises from impact play) on the sub symbolic empowerment and feeling a rush from the power trip enjoying t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/21 11:19 PM |
| 2 | Do you think BDSM pretty much universllay being "woman focused" says something about sexuality?its masculinity that's how a grown man behaves It’s traditional masculinity. Men don’t have to be traditional to be full adults. A passive man is weak . a submissive man is weak No. A submissive man is vulnerable. It takes a lot of courage and emotional strength to willingly expose your vulnerabilities. Do you think that women who aren’t confident and assertive are weak? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/21 10:21 PM |
| 2 | Do you think BDSM pretty much universllay being "woman focused" says something about sexuality?Did you read my comment? I also wasn’t talking about people who just don’t want to because it sounds unappealing to them what I intended to say was that if the only reason a guy refuses to submit is because he’s afraid of how it would change my perception of him, that’s an insecurity If you just don’t want to, that’s cool. If you’d be ok with it if except that you’re afraid of what your partner would think, that’s insecurity. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/21 10:12 PM |
| 2 | Do you think BDSM pretty much universllay being "woman focused" says something about sexuality?you don't "respect" him, you ike him since he's a sucker and wil let you have sex with other guys Nah this was also true when I was dating monogamously. I haven’t dated monogamously in a while because it isn’t my preference, but when I was dating people in that zone I didn’t respect partners who wanted a closed relationship any less. The rest of your comment is so condescending it’s funny. Please, go on, tell me about how I’ll cream my panties once I meet a truly alpha dominant man to hold me do… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/21 10:07 PM |
| 2 | Do you think BDSM pretty much universllay being "woman focused" says something about sexuality?that's not a characteristic of an assertive ,leader, confident type Why do you think all women (even “them femdom hoes”) want someone who’s confident/assertive? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/21 09:46 PM |
| 2 | Do you think BDSM pretty much universllay being "woman focused" says something about sexuality?I refuse to believe that virtually all the femdom content I could find on the internet is actually a "minority" That sounds like a you problem. Do you also refuse to believe that virtually all of the “lesbian” porn you’ll find online is very different from how the majority of actual lesbians have sex? Femdom and lesbian porn show a spectacle that men want to watch. how on earth do you have a large sample size of how femdom looks like when people dont share it People don’t usually share it with t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/21 09:40 PM |
| 2 | Do you think BDSM pretty much universllay being "woman focused" says something about sexuality?Why do you think I’m shaming you? I said that in the context of men who I date, I have more respect for someone who subs than someone who refuses to sub because he’s insecure about how I would view him (which was in response to your comment that “women will never be able to see the man the same way again if he submits to her”). I’m not saying anything about you or other people who I don’t date. And I can see that I might have phrased this more clearly, but I also wasn’t talking about people who … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/21 09:09 PM |
| 2 | Weekly Community Chat MegathreadTax benefits | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/21 08:24 PM |
| 2 | Do you think BDSM pretty much universllay being "woman focused" says something about sexuality?You would think wrong. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/21 08:18 PM |
| 2 | Do you think BDSM pretty much universllay being "woman focused" says something about sexuality?You’re just incorrect. When I’m dating a guy, I respect a man who is willing to sub for me more than one who’s too insecure to let me have control of him. it’s in there nature to be submissive Not in my nature. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/21 08:17 PM |
| 1 | Do you think BDSM pretty much universllay being "woman focused" says something about sexuality?There are literally amatuer femdom porn out there, "real dommes" videotaping their sessions, etc etc. I have read and watched videos/interviews about the subject matter with dommes. I’m not saying these people don’t exist IRL. I’m saying they are the minority of IRL BDSM in spite of being the supermajority in BDSM porn. Part of this is bias towards what viewers want to see and expect. Part of it is bias towards showing people who have a more impersonal practice of BDSM (because they tend to be m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/21 08:01 PM |
| 4 | Do you think BDSM pretty much universllay being "woman focused" says something about sexuality?I'm certain I watched more explicitly BDSM themed porn than vanilla. I watched a lot of what the internet has to offer, I also read some stuff. Most porn is a very poor representation of what safe/healthy BDSM is. That goes double for femdom. Go to any munch, BDSM Reddit forum, or Fetlife where there are real dommes and you’ll hear them complaining about how many subs want or are expecting a dynamic that looks like the porn dynamic. (Which is not what most dommes want.) a man is dominated by tea… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/21 06:55 PM |
| 2 | Women who tolerate male vulnerability absolutely exist, but average men lack the time and options to be able to screen for these women.She isn't a child. I refuse to infantalize her. Are you saying that you only consider how what you say would affect someone’s feelings if they’re a child? What I recommended is more than most people do and more than is required for the basics of sympathy/respect, but it’s not infantilization, it’s thoughtfulness and getting to know your partner well. I'm not going to spend all that energy and time living in her head It’s a form of emotional labor which no one is going to force you to take on but… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/21 05:58 PM |
| 1 | Weekly Community Chat MegathreadIsn't culutre coded by genes? No. People who are adopted internationally as babies have the culture of the adoptive patents, not their home country. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/21 05:43 PM |
| 1 | Weekly Community Chat MegathreadWhat about the European jews who have median iq of 110 There are significant cultural differences and differences in the home environments of Jews in comparison to their gentile European neighbors. The basic thesis of the bell curve is IQ is a better predictor of SES than SES of parents,or othet factors They show a stronger correlation which is distinct from proving a causal relationship can you link the studies that discredited the bell curve? There have been a lot, so I’ll link you to a mega-v… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/21 05:20 AM |
| 1 | Weekly Community Chat Megathreadthere were thousands of people throughout history all around the world who said the exact same things he said and they werent as morally bankrupt hell some of them are considered as deities and prophets Who are you thinking of? I’m not familiar with the prophets/deities of most religions, but I can confidently say that prophets/deities for the Abrahamic religions (Judaism, Christianity, and Islam) did not prioritize individual liberty, and many (all?) of them talked more about afterlife than a r… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/21 09:30 PM |
| 2 | Q4W Would you rather LTR a popular fraud or undercover superhero?Assuming both are attractive and crazy about you, which one would you actually picture yourself building a life with? Neither. These would both be terrible partners for me. I don’t want to be with someone who is famous because I like privacy, and I also don’t want to be with someone dishonest. I don’t think I could respect that. So I can’t imagine building a life with option 1; I would walk away from this. But there’s a lot of middle ground between being famous and having your existence be a sec… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/21 08:25 PM |
| 1 | Women bully each other into hypergamya woman would find a man attractive, that woman would like to know that man, but the guy doesn't live up to the taste of her friends' circle and her friends will do everything to shut-down that crush ...I have never in my life seen this happen IRL, though I have once or twice seen it on TV. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/21 07:17 PM |
| 1 | Weekly Community Chat MegathreadConsider the level of technological advancement of South east asia countries (median IQ is around 108) to Africa ( I am not sure and don't believe but median IQ is around 75) Most southeast Asian countries have an average IQ below 100. The one exception (where the average IQ is 108) is Singapore, which is a very wealthy and technologically-developed country. And even if this was true, why would you think this is evidence of a genetic basis? There are a lot of environmental/education/culture diff… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/21 07:15 PM |
| 1 | Weekly Community Chat MegathreadHe claims most of it is genetics in his recent book Human Diversity. I haven’t read this, but maybe the claim that most of the intelligence difference is due to genetics is part of why Murray isn’t respected in the scientific community now. Just because someone wrote it in a book doesn’t mean it’s true, and it’s very hard to claim that genetics is the primary cause of intelligence differences when it’s well-documented that adoption into a wealthy home tends to improve IQ by like 10 or 20 points … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/21 03:06 AM |
| 2 | Sex positivity vs objectification is a dilemma that puts a lot of internalised shame on men.not to represent black people as bad but to because the narrator is unreliable and the whole book is about changing his world view. Then that will be clear in the context of reading the entire book. Did I ever say you have to represent everyone who’s a minority as a good person in order to be respectful? No. Did I say you can’t have a respectful sexual representation of women? Also no. In fact, I explicitly said it was possible to represent sexy women in a respectful way. If there's an asshole w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/21 01:35 AM |
| 0 | Sex positivity vs objectification is a dilemma that puts a lot of internalised shame on men.Why does any of that matter? Respect for other human beings and their bodily autonomy. Why is it ok for a woman to express her sexual feelings through herself, but wrong for an artist to express their sexual feelings through their art? It’s ok for a person to dress how they want because they’re only representing themselves. An artist is free to represent themselves sexually through their art, but if they start representing other people they need to respect the other people they are representing … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/21 12:53 AM |
| 6 | Women who tolerate male vulnerability absolutely exist, but average men lack the time and options to be able to screen for these women.Realistically you have a point that the majority of women will lose attraction when presented with some kinds of expressions of vulnerability even though it’s also true that most women want their partners to express some vulnerability. You have four viable options, and IMO the fourth is clearly the dominant strategy provided you can develop good interpersonal skills. The first is probably dominant if you don’t know how to communicate and/or feel that the inner workings of your partner’s mind are… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/21 12:38 AM |
| 2 | Are all women disgusted whenever a man opens up or is vulnerable? Like subconsciously?Hello! I have held all of my partners (2 men, 1 woman) through multiple panic attacks and/or episodes of full-on sobbing, and it’s a rare day that goes by without me hearing about at least one insecurity from a partner. Yesterday I talked through separate (chronic, not acute) insecurities with all three of them. One was FOMO about the pandemic ruining his twenties, one was about unrequited romantic feelings for my friend, and one was about major family dysfunction. I care and am glad they shared… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/21 09:58 PM |
| 2 | Sex positivity vs objectification is a dilemma that puts a lot of internalised shame on men.Its a little confusing from our perspective whats "allowed" and whats not, to say the least. Let me draw some lines then to help un-confuse you. Ignoring or making non-sexual affirmative comments about a real person in their clothing/sex decisions is good. Affirmative comments should be things like “I’m happy for you!” or “That’s great!” or “Your outfit looks so cool!” They should not be things like “Well heLLO sexy” or wolf-whistling or groping. Something like “You look hot in that outfit” coul… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/21 08:27 PM |
| 1 | Weekly Community Chat MegathreadLet me rephrase that question: Do you think Jefferson’s hypocrisy and lack of moral standing make it less true that people should be treated equally and have rights to life/liberty/opportunity? Do you disagree that morally bankrupt people can be correct? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/21 06:45 PM |
| 1 | Weekly Community Chat MegathreadI have read both of these sources, and neither says that racial wealth/income gaps go away entirely when you control for IQ. “Why g matters” barely talks about racial differences at all. “The bell curve” is very careful to be vague and attributes racial gaps to a combination of many environmental and genetic factors. P.S I am black That doesn’t mean anything unless you’re making an argument from personal experience | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/21 11:26 AM |
| 2 | Weekly Community Chat MegathreadThat seems like a bit of a stretch to call a simple unwanted kiss=sexual assault, isn't it? No. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/21 01:46 AM |
| 1 | Weekly Community Chat MegathreadSex is a good heuristic for dividing into leagues because it has such a huge impact on muscle mass and height, but you definitely can have fair competition if you set some kind of muscle mass cutoff. I think around 50 lbs of skeletal muscle mass would be a decent cutoff, with a cutoff like that you wouldn't be likely to have women in the high-muscle category unless they were over 6' (or close to that height and very muscular) and wouldn't be likely to have men in the lower category unless they w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/21 11:05 PM |
| 1 | Weekly Community Chat MegathreadLet's make this more concrete. Say I'm a 5'4" 130-lb female with reasonably good fitness, which is an average height and a healthy weight for that height. Then my adult male match in muscle mass and general fitness would be a 4'8" guy under 100 lbs. Do you really think this tiny guy is going to be stronger than the average woman? Or say you're a 5'9" man who's 150 lbs. Your female muscle-mass match is a 200-lb 6'8" woman. Do you think a woman that giant would be weaker than the average man? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/21 10:49 PM |
| 1 | Weekly Community Chat MegathreadSame story if we assumed equal muscle mass It's really not. Do you have any idea what the size difference would be between a typical woman and a man of roughly the same level of athleticism in order for them to have the same muscle mass? You'd have a 200-lb woman and a 150-lb man, or a 150-lb woman and a 112-lb man. That's the ratio. Do you really think the man would usually be stronger when there's that kind of size difference (when it's a healthy size difference, not a size difference caused b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/21 10:36 PM |
| 1 | Weekly Community Chat MegathreadYeah and the guy who wrote "all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness" was a slave owner and a rapist, do you care? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/21 10:22 PM |
| 1 | Weekly Community Chat Megathreadhave more fast twitch muscle fibers Generally true but also generally less important in most sports than skill and the overall muscle mass generally stronger than their same size female counterparts Because a man generally has significantly more muscle mass when he is the same height and weight as a woman Gended is sex. If it wasn't, why do women get pressed when grans women try to use use female gender bathrooms? Women usually don’t get pressed about femme-presenting trans women in bathrooms in… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/21 11:19 AM |
| 1 | Weekly Community Chat MegathreadA twig 14 year old boy could beat up majority of adult women, even if they're bigger than him The average 14-year-old boy is taller than the average adult woman. Also probably has the same or equal muscle but less fat. And being young often makes people more energetic, and men/boys are more likely to have martial arts training than women. I am not seeing why you think it’s meaningful if a typical 14-year-old boy can beat up a typical adult woman. He’s on average going to be taller, have similar … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/21 10:59 AM |
| 1 | Weekly Community Chat MegathreadShe is also 160 lbs, I couldn’t find her body fat or muscle percent though, so that’s more ambiguous. But if the classification system was as I suggest, whichever side she turned out to be wouldn’t be so controversial because it wouldn’t invalidate her gender identity to put her in the high-muscle league or the low-muscle league. I’m guessing though that there would be a lot more men in the low-muscle leagues than women in the high-muscle leagues with this kind of system. And people might switch… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/21 10:46 AM |
| 1 | Weekly Community Chat MegathreadWhy do you say that? She’s under 160 lbs and over 20% body fat, that’s not going to give her muscle mass comparable to typical male athletes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/21 10:38 AM |
| 1 | Weekly Community Chat MegathreadIn sports? IMO competitive sports should be segregated based on metrics like muscle mass, height, and weight. In practice that would have a similar result to segregating by sex but probably there would be some exceptions especially at non-elite levels. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/21 10:28 AM |
| 1 | Weekly Community Chat MegathreadThen it sounds like your confusion is just that you either don’t know or don’t accept the definition of the word “gender” Sex is not a social construct. Gender is (both from a prescriptive linguistic perspective and a descriptive linguistic perspective) a separate word with a different meaning and etymological history. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/21 10:24 AM |
| 2 | Weekly Community Chat MegathreadDo you think there is a difference between gender and sex? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/21 10:14 AM |
| 1 | Weekly Community Chat MegathreadWhat do you think gender is? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/21 10:11 AM |
| 2 | Weekly Community Chat MegathreadIQ does not explain the wealth gap or the income gap, and if anything it’s likely a result at least in part of these financial gaps, because IQ is absolutely influenced by environment. What source are you looking at that says IQ differences explain income differences? And yes, Sowell does argue that culture is one key cause behind the wealth gap in his book “Wealth, Poverty and Politics” | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/21 10:08 AM |
| 2 | Weekly Community Chat MegathreadUm yes, these are gaining popularity...primarily on the left, where taxing the rich has always been popular and UBI was the central platform of one of the Dem presidential primary candidates. You yourself admit the Republican politicians aren’t for these policies, so why do you attribute economically left policies to the right wing? These are perhaps gaining popularity within the right wing but much more popular with the left wing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/21 09:57 AM |
| 2 | Weekly Community Chat MegathreadWhat economically left and/or European-socialist policies do you see the American right promoting and implementing? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/21 08:46 AM |
| 2 | Weekly Community Chat MegathreadUm what? How is it racist to say that a particular author has opinions which do not reflect reality? And what do you mean by “again”? And I guess I’m white-passing but I’m not even white | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/21 08:38 AM |
| 1 | Weekly Community Chat Megathread1) the idea that markets function in a way that benefits people overall without regulation 2) that “ghetto” culture is ripped off from white redneck culture 3) that disparities in wealth between white Americans and African-Americans are due in large part to culture 4) that taxes on the rich lower than they have been in the 2000-current time period produce overall higher tax revenues To name a few | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/21 08:33 AM |
| 3 | Weekly Community Chat MegathreadLol “basic economic knowledge” Sowell writes cute stories but the evidence is lacking, you aren’t going to improve your economic knowledge by reading fiction | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/21 07:24 AM |
| 1 | Weekly Community Chat MegathreadAren’t you 21? You have time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/01/21 02:22 AM |
| 1 | What is the shortest height a man can be while still being seductive?The shortest guy I have personally found seductive is 5'2", but I don't think that's the lower limit for me, it's just the shortest seductive guy I happen to know. I'm 5'6". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/21 05:44 AM |
| 3 | What does masculinity in men and femininity in women look like to you?So is money. And how it works is different in every country. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/21 06:33 PM |
| 2 | Let's chat about Psychographic Personas & Your Relational Life Experiences - post your results!These tests are not a horoscope, but I don't think they're very useful unless you are a person who struggles with introspection or are asking a person's type just after meeting a new person. Once you know someone (including yourself) fairly well, it should just be a description of what you already know. The extra resources people have constructed to tell you how your scores translate to romantic/career/parenting/etc interactions are just interpretations of how those personalities would typically… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/21 03:57 AM |
| 1 | Futility In ReplicationOh, I’m not considered low value in society lol And my partner is only considered low value romantically because of his weight and hesitance to approach, which are not likely to be genetic given that his brother and parents aren’t that way. He’s not considered low value outside of the romantic zone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/21 05:23 PM |
| 2 | Weekly Community Chat MegathreadYeah lol I have spent zero time in MBTI discussion forums, my comment was based on how my friends reacted to each other’s scores after taking both of these types of personality tests | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/21 06:21 AM |
| 2 | Unskilled "giver" men, not selfish lovers, are what make casual sex bad for womenmost women don't want to be that dominant Fair, although I prefer being dominant I know that I’m part of a minority of women in having that preference | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/21 02:06 AM |
| 6 | How can men have a "fun and sociable" personality?Practice talking a lot, join a structured improv comedy class/group/club if you’re trying to learn skills and then apply those to normal conversations (biggest tip is never say “no, I’m not down” and just end a conversation, instead say “yes and...” or “yes, but...”), read on topics that the people you want to impress are interested in and keep current so you have conversation starters and fun facts, practice reading the room (gauging the emotional states and attention of others) so you can swit… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/21 01:57 AM |
| 5 | Unskilled "giver" men, not selfish lovers, are what make casual sex bad for womenEhhh it really depends on who you are. If someone is passively ready to go with what I want but not skilled at pleasing me with mouth/fingers and does not seem to be learning based on my directions, I can stop them fairly early and say, “hey, are you ready for me to take out my strap?” And then I get off on the vibrator in my strap-on while getting to kiss and touch and hold down a cutely-squirming/panting/moaning lover. If I don’t like the way they’re grabbing me and they don’t take direction o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/21 01:34 AM |
| 2 | Does being physically attractive matter to you? Does it bother you that it is a male stereotype to care about a woman’s looks over intelligence, etc.?I don’t care very much, and I don’t think I’ll care unless and until I reach a point where my attractiveness level is insufficient for my goals. I am and always have been attractive enough that I don’t feel pressure to work very hard on my looks. I eat veggies, keep my portions small, take some doctor-recommended vitamin supplements, and do significant exercise a few times per week. I rarely wear makeup, and when I do it’s just foundation and eyeliner. I wear sunscreen when I go outside to prote… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/21 12:27 AM |
| 2 | Weekly Community Chat MegathreadI'm poly and tend to like nerds and geeks but I wouldn't describe myself as sapiosexual because I'm not innately attracted to intelligence, and definitely I'm not attracted to intelligence above all else. Nerds tend to be smart on average, but there are also a lot of intelligent people who aren't nerdy, and I don't find them as attractive. And I'm attracted to nerds/geeks who aren't as intelligent too. It's more a cultural thing and about shared interests than attraction to intelligence. That sa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/21 10:38 PM |
| 2 | Weekly Community Chat MegathreadIt does still fit under child grooming, it's just that the justice system acknowledges that incestual child grooming is especially difficult to prove and may be a case where no one will advocate for the kid. If a teacher is grooming kids, there is a decent chance the parents will eventually find out and/or that the child will be taken out from their sphere of influence after a few years. If a parent is the abuser, it can be kept all in the family for the entirety of a child's life. The anti-ince… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/21 10:29 PM |
| 2 | Weekly Community Chat Megathreadwhy incest itself is illegal Both because of the irrational squick factor and because you are likely to have zero witnesses and evidence for a case of child grooming if it's successful. In a case of domestic violence, you can get the victim trying to protect their abuser, but it's very rare that they will be completely brainwashed and unable to realize anything is wrong, particularly if there is physical abuse. In a case of child grooming, there will probably be no witnesses except the victim an… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/21 09:59 PM |
| 3 | Weekly Community Chat MegathreadI don't personally think two adult twins should be legally prevented from doing whatever they mutually consent to. But I think it's better to have the existing too-broad laws than no laws. So I would support an amendment to existing laws such that incest is only illegal if the age gap is like 3+ years. I do think you can have abusive grooming going on with a fairly small age gap though if it starts young; there's a big difference between a twelve-year-old and a nine-year-old, and if grooming sta… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/21 09:47 PM |
| 3 | Weekly Community Chat MegathreadYes, but structurally a kid has a lot more opportunity to be privately groomed without getting caught when it's close family rather than unrelated adults. Even teachers and coaches usually have less opportunity to groom than parents/siblings. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/21 09:31 PM |
| 1 | Weekly Community Chat MegathreadIn most places first-cousin incest is legal. The types of incest that are most often illegal are parent/child, grandparent/grandchild, sibling, and half-sibling. And these are the relations which can most easily be abusive. For the general perception, I think it's primarily based on our instinctual aversion to incest, which is non-rational but was evolutionarily helpful to our ancestors in the days before genetic testing. Most people are irrationally afraid of bugs, even completely benign bugs. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/21 09:24 PM |
| 3 | Weekly Community Chat MegathreadBecause it's very hard to prove grooming when the victim believes they are in love with their abuser | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/21 09:16 PM |
| 2 | Weekly Community Chat MegathreadThe question of how to determine whether empathy or status is more important. Your answer was just "duh, status is more important." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/21 09:13 PM |
| 0 | Men are the more romantic / loving genderCourting rituals aren't an expression of romantic feelings or love, they're just rituals. I don't have a positive argument for or against your claim of men being more romantic, but the gender roles in common courting rituals are irrelevant. Are women more romantic because they're more likely to wear makeup, perfume, and lingerie to impress a partner? For undergoing the expense and pain of waxing? No. So men aren't more romantic for buying chocolates and flowers to impress a partner. Gender roles… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/21 09:10 PM |
| 3 | Weekly Community Chat MegathreadTo prevent adults grooming children they're closely related to (who they usually have a lot of access to) and then bringing them into a sexual relationship as soon as they hit the local age of consent (or bringing them into a sexual relationship before the age of consent and just not going public with it until after the age of consent). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/21 08:57 PM |
| 2 | Weekly Community Chat MegathreadYou're begging the question | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/21 08:49 PM |
| 2 | Why do people act as though only bad guys get women?Because a bad guy is more likely to quickly leave a woman once he gets her, so even if he's slightly less successful at getting women than other guys, he could still go through more women (if a guy goes in a cycle of search for lay for four months, sleep with her one month, ditch her, repeat he goes through more women in five years than a guy who has a cycle of search for three months, date for three years). And usually a bad guy is about as successful as other guys who are at his level of physi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/21 08:48 PM |
| 1 | Weekly Community Chat MegathreadPeople in general like MBTI better because it's vague enough that it's hard to be judgmental about it. Is sensing or intuition better? Perceiving or judging? Who knows! Is it better to be imaginative or not? Agreeable or not? Very agreeable or midrange agreeable? You won't get everyone agreeing on this, but most people will have some beliefs. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/21 06:59 PM |
| 3 | Weekly Community Chat MegathreadCounterpoint: in media, the main characters and their buddies usually get the most character development, and we have thought process behind what they do. The creators try to make the audience empathize with them. Isn't it natural for people in average to be most attracted to the characters they get to know the best and empathize with the most? Even if status/fame wasn't a factor at all. And with respect to celebrities, media saturation gives the average person way too much personal info about c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/21 06:45 PM |
| 3 | Weekly Community Chat MegathreadTrying to decide whether I'm the polysapiosexual or the BDSM sex worker or you just weren't referring specifically to me, but hey this is actually a pretty funny list of people all of whom I've seen here at since point except the centenarian redneck Obviously it's not everyone but there's enough truth here to be A- humor, take my upvote | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/21 06:03 PM |
| 1 | Q4All: Is all really fair in love and war?I know it's their justification. What I think is sad about so many people employing that justification is that it's short-sighted unless you're correctly assuming that everyone around you is already doing it, too. It's a repeated prisoner's dilemma wherein violating norms of civility is likely to benefit you in any immediate given situation but is likely to also lead you into more situations where you're surrounded by other people who do it, too. And being in a situation where both people act li… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/21 05:44 PM |
| 1 | Q4All: Is all really fair in love and war?I know I'm late to the party here, but wow it's depressing to see nearly everyone answer "yes" to this. I guess that's the kind of mentality that draws many people to this sub. I think (hope?) you would get a different ratio of responses if you polled a representative set of people rather than PPD. I personally don't think all is fair in love or war. We have the Geneva convention for a reason; war is a prisoner's dilemma wherein the first one to defect by using inhumane methods can often gain an… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/21 09:57 AM |
| 11 | Just because women have more access to sex doesn't mean they have more access to SEXUAL PLEASUREI suspect that OP is talking about net sexual pleasure (i.e., a painful experience cancels out a pleasure experience) and you are talking about gross sexual pleasure (i.e., just count up the sum total of pleasure and ignore the pain) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/21 02:11 AM |
| 3 | Modern women's demands for constant contact is a leading cause of relationships going staleDaily texts are very different from a daily phone call. IME most people want daily interaction of some sort and significant in-person or phone interaction once or twice a week with someone they’re serious about dating. If you can’t come up with a few daily interesting comments texting back and forth, you probably do not have a compatible serious relationship. If you eventually get bored by a daily hour-long (or longer) phone call where you aren’t multitasking, that’s pretty normal. I don’t think… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/21 10:53 PM |
| 6 | How do younger women typically respond to older men showing interest in them? RP claims women like older guys.If you are looking to date women who are moderately younger than you (~5 years younger), you probably won't have an advantage, but you won't have a disadvantage either. If you are looking to date women who are 10+ years younger than you, most of them won't want you, and the ones who do will probably expect you do spend a lot of money on her. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/21 04:23 AM |
| 2 | The reason why women can’t admit that dating is OBJECTIVELY harder for men is because they feel it’s an attack on their right to complainOk, well I'm sorry you're unhappy. Best of luck to you, and maybe think about whether you should consider some of the overweight women who you could reasonably pull. On the plus side, working out does benefit you in overall health even though it's not a very effective way to get a girl. And it does have a small positive impact on your chances of success with women. It's just not the main thing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/21 04:02 AM |
| 2 | The reason why women can’t admit that dating is OBJECTIVELY harder for men is because they feel it’s an attack on their right to complainIn that case looksmaxing is worthless advice. Looksmaxing is somewhat useful in the casual sex market, but it only works up to a point unless you are able to afford expensive things like plastic surgery because women care more about things like height and whether you have a full head of hair than whether you are a little bit chubby. If you are going from morbidly obese to slightly overweight, that's useful, but going from slightly overweight to rock-hard abs is not going to make a big difference… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/21 03:43 AM |
| 2 | The reason why women can’t admit that dating is OBJECTIVELY harder for men is because they feel it’s an attack on their right to complainA man gotta be on point with everything to get Someone above average No, he just has to be above average on the whole, with more weight given to the attributes that the women he's trying to attract care most about. Have you never seen an overweight ugly rich guy with a wife who looks like a model? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/21 03:38 AM |
| 7 | The reason why women can’t admit that dating is OBJECTIVELY harder for men is because they feel it’s an attack on their right to complainIt sounds like your issue is that you have invested considerable effort in features that are not the primary things women value. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/21 09:53 PM |
| 8 | The reason why women can’t admit that dating is OBJECTIVELY harder for men is because they feel it’s an attack on their right to complainImagine working out for years until you look like an athlete just so an overweight woman can be your match Imagine going to school for years to get a high-paying job just to be a fair match for someone who's unemployed. Working out isn't worthless to your RMV, but it isn't the most important. And if you're using something like Tinder, you are in the casual sex market even if you don't advertise that way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/21 09:51 PM |
| 4 | The reason why women can’t admit that dating is OBJECTIVELY harder for men is because they feel it’s an attack on their right to complainI'm defining fair as both people get equal value (value according to their own metrics, so for a typical man getting casual sex is worth more than it would be worth for a typical woman, and in a LTR it's vice versa for a high-paying job) out of the interaction Have you ever thought that bottom tier iq people's fair pay is below minimum wage? Neither sex nor romance is a need for survival. If by bottom-tier you mean the people who need a caretaker due to low iq, you are correct that they may neve… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/21 09:45 PM |
| 2 | The reason why women can’t admit that dating is OBJECTIVELY harder for men is because they feel it’s an attack on their right to complainYou can be a fair match for overweight women without being overweight. I don't know what your situation is, but your fair match in the LTR market is someone who lines up with your overall RMV. As a man, your RMV is not primarily based on whether you are overweight. You can be overweight but otherwise physically and non-physically attractive and be a fair match for a relatively attractive woman. You can be a perfectly healthy weight and unattractive in some other ways which are more important to … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/21 09:28 PM |
| 10 | The reason why women can’t admit that dating is OBJECTIVELY harder for men is because they feel it’s an attack on their right to complainHave you considered that overweight women might be your fair match? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/21 08:45 PM |
| 1 | Futility In ReplicationIs this based off of you imagining my partner and I are specifically unlikely to produce children who are treated well my society, or is it just general pessimism in thinking that overall people have to luck out to have a life which is net positive? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/21 08:18 PM |
| 1 | "The Truth, The Whole Truth and Nothing But The Truth" - a discussionYou're comparing two completely different scenarios. One they're in a relationship (of some sorts), in the second scenario they don't even know each other. Why does this matter to the general question of the kind of priorities that are most common by gender? Are you saying that someone who prioritizes good communication over manipulation is more likely to sabotage communication to manipulate someone in a relationship than with a stranger? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/21 03:51 PM |
| 1 | "The Truth, The Whole Truth and Nothing But The Truth" - a discussionSaying "I have a boyfriend" is Not interpreted as "you don't have a chance." Its interpreted as "I have a boyfriend." You are ignoring my experience with men continuing to interrogate and try to convince me that I have no good reason to be uninterested when I say "I'm not interested" while more consistently leaving me alone if I say "I have a boyfriend." The practicality is that some men will behave the same way in response to both of these rejections, but other men (in particular men with a per… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/21 03:41 PM |
| 1 | "The Truth, The Whole Truth and Nothing But The Truth" - a discussionpotential abuser/murderer in the eyes of a woman because penis Everyone has the potential to be violent. Men tend to have more physical strength than women. If a typical woman violently lashes out at a typical man in anger, it's usually more of an annoyance or even a joke to him than a threat. If a typical man has the exact same violent response directed at a typical woman, it is dangerous. I'm not saying that men are evil. I'm saying that a man usually has the physical potential to be a legitim… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/21 02:10 PM |
| 2 | "The Truth, The Whole Truth and Nothing But The Truth" - a discussionI tell friends this because I think they can do it if they have enough confidence in what they are doing to persist and I think they are at risk of not persisting. Positive encouragement of this sort in combination with attention from a friend and assurance that I think they're going in the right direction increases most people's duration of persistence. I sometimes make these sorts of comments when I have no doubts, but I most often use them when I think my words might push my friend just enoug… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/21 02:04 PM |
| 1 | "The Truth, The Whole Truth and Nothing But The Truth" - a discussionIt's not strictly a gendered thing, but women tend to fall more to the 'manipulate' side of the spectrum, men more to the 'communicate' side. Why do you think this? In the dating context, one of the most common lies women complain about hearing from men is "I want to see how things go, but I think we have real potential for a relationship" when he knows he just wants sex. One of the most common lies men complain about hearing from women is "I have a boyfriend" when what she is single but uninter… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/21 01:56 PM |
| 1 | "The Truth, The Whole Truth and Nothing But The Truth" - a discussionSomeone who prioritizes communication will prioritize accuracy of information. No, someone who prioritizes communication will prioritize providing the information that is useful. If someone asks me where I am because they're trying to meet up with me but I don't know exactly where I am on a beach (let's say I have enough signal to text but not enough to get accurate GPS), is it better communication to say "I'm walking along the Santa Ana beach" (completely accurate information that directly resp… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/21 01:31 PM |
| 1 | "The Truth, The Whole Truth and Nothing But The Truth" - a discussion"I have a boyfriend, etc." Everything besides "I'm not interested, sorry," or the actual truth. "Sorry, I'm not interested" is my default if I'm approached by someone I know and am not interested in, because I trust the people I know to respect my assertion of my preferences. "I have a boyfriend" is my default if I'm cold-approached because I have learned through experience that many men will respect an unknown man's claim more than the will of the woman standing right in front of him. When I'm … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/21 01:03 PM |
| 3 | "The Truth, The Whole Truth and Nothing But The Truth" - a discussionLying only benefits the liars, not the people being lied to. Ok guess I'll stop encouraging friends with phrases like "you've got this!" or "I believe in you!" unless I'm extremely confident they'll succeed. No well-wishes to people who I think have a 50/50 chance of success, that's a lie which will only benefit me. /s | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/21 12:31 PM |
| 2 | "The Truth, The Whole Truth and Nothing But The Truth" - a discussionyou're not exactly obligated to care about some random stranger's feelings spoken like a man who has never worried about his physical safety in the event that he angers a suitor | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/21 12:25 PM |
| 1 | One reason why Women are considered ‘complicated’ is because what attracts them changes constantly.Outlier, atypical, which ever word you prefer. To me they mean the same thing - not the most common, average. Is there a difference? Atypical just means a result you wouldn't expect to get most of the time. So someone who is white might be atypically pale in the context of the global population because the majority of people aren't white. But outlier is a stronger word, it means this is a result that isn't within the space of any common trend, so in the context of being pale you would probably h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/21 12:15 PM |
| 2 | Do you find it difficult to get into works that deal with experiences of a person of opposite gender than yours, even when good?lol same. It's far easier to relate to male characters (even ones I have very little in common with) than to female characters who are written in a way that gives me dissonance with lived experience. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/21 11:20 AM |
| 1 | Weekly Community Chat MegathreadBeing gay is an evolutionary disadvantage for having direct descendants, but it's an advantage for your younger close relatives (nephews/nieces/cousins/etc) who still share a lot of genetic material with you. Also being gay isn't a single gene or even entirely genetic, you can have identical twins where one is gay and one is straight. (It's not a choice, but it can be influenced by factors other than genes.) So you can have straight people who still have many genes that tend to make a person mor… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/21 10:46 AM |
| 1 | Futility In ReplicationMy partner and I are both treated well in society. Why wouldn't our child be? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/21 10:09 AM |
| 1 | Q4W: Are you attracted to bad boys?I hate bad boys Yes. He’s not bad. You just don’t understand him like I do. No. I get with people who are somewhere in the zone of shy-sweet to genuinely good, kind, and supportive. And my friends/family see and recognize these positive traits when I've introduced them to partners. I have occasionally misjudged people, but not for very long. I've never gotten past the makeout phase with someone who was an asshole prior to realizing they were an asshole, and I don't stay friends with an asshole o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/01/21 10:25 AM |
| 1 | Q4W: Are you attracted to bad boys?Are you attracted to bad boys No. Even if they have other features I find attractive, the fact that the guy is a "bad boy" in and of itself turns me off. I associate it at best with an arrogant lack of introspection and disregard for others (a combination which causes me to feel disgust and some measure of pity). At worst, a guy who is a "bad boy" could physically threaten my life (causing me to feel fear). When I feel fear, disgust, or pity, I'm not going to be turned on. how would you describe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/01/21 09:50 AM |
| 2 | Futility In ReplicationWhy do people desire having biological children of their own instead of through these other methods? For me, it's mainly because I like myself and my partner a lot more than I like the average person, so I assume that I would like children with our genes more than I would like a typical child. There are also many complications associated with adoption: you may be put on a waitlist with very little control over when your name comes up, you're more likely to get a kid with (potentially expensive) … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/01/21 09:07 AM |
| 1 | Weekly Community Chat MegathreadIt depends on what your dating goals are and how much information you have about the guy. If your goal is to get and keep commitment, I agree it's irrational to be more interested in someone who is desired by many other people. If you know the guy very well, it's also irrational to become more interested when you see that others want him. However, if your goal is to get the most attractive/charming man and you don't know the guy very well, the attention of other women could be valuable informati… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/01/21 08:56 AM |
| 1 | One reason why Women are considered ‘complicated’ is because what attracts them changes constantly.I think you're either an outlier or an out liar I know I'm atypical in many ways, and if you combine all the ways I'm atypical, perhaps you can say I'm an outlier. However, I do not think that having a life which doesn't fit the AFBB mold makes me an outlier. About time you start paying, it's been expected for decades now. In my family, it has been going on for decades. All my female blood relatives in my parents' generation or younger pay their own way, and most of my female relatives in my g… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/01/21 08:33 AM |
| 2 | One reason why Women are considered ‘complicated’ is because what attracts them changes constantly.solo, leads his own way, does his own thing, assumes superiority in knowledge Nah, I picked my boyfriends out from a math club where these shy guys would gather to mostly work on math problems in silence together except for when the advisor came and gave extra lessons or when someone had a particularly interesting or tricky problem they wanted to discuss (with as little socialization about non-math topics as they could manage). Even though they weren't social, they weren't flying solo, and they … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/01/21 03:09 AM |
| 2 | One reason why Women are considered ‘complicated’ is because what attracts them changes constantly.For example cockiness vs attentiveness. If I had listed these attributes, I might understand why you think AFBB could apply. I didn’t list those attributes, and you have not made any connection between the traits I actually described and either an alpha or a beta type of person. Can you tell me why you think the specific attributes I listed apply more to an alpha or a beta? So far, your argument has been, “your preferences changed, so that’s AFBB.” But as you mentioned AFBB is more specific than… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/01/21 02:27 AM |
| 8 | Women aren't "lying" about what they find sexually arousing.I agree that the traits you listed cover what most (though not all) women are aroused by, but my point was that to even get that level of coverage you were already moving away from physical attributes, because there’s too much variance in which physical attributes are desirable to make even mostly-valid generalizations. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/01/21 02:16 AM |
| 4 | One reason why Women are considered ‘complicated’ is because what attracts them changes constantly.Alpha is the beauty that's in the eye of the beholder. ...why do you think either of the descriptions I gave were in some way more beautiful to me? The first one was what I found beautiful earlier in my life; the second was what I find beautiful now. And there are a lot of physical traits which I like now and also liked then, I just didn’t mention them because they weren’t a difference. My standards for appearance haven’t gone down. "bucks" don't necessarily have to be buck$, can be any other cu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/01/21 02:09 AM |
| 26 | Women aren't "lying" about what they find sexually arousing.I think a lot of what you’re saying is correct, but it’s not the full picture. I think that a larger reason women don’t give more specific advice on appearance is that there is a lot of physical variation women are fine with in relationships. Also that many of the physical attributes seen as conventionally attractive for men aren’t under his control; there’s no point in advising a man to get taller or have a more square jaw. In terms of women being attracted to a variety of body types, I think t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/01/21 01:57 AM |
| 5 | One reason why Women are considered ‘complicated’ is because what attracts them changes constantly.In my teens and early twenties I was into introverted math nerds who dressed like gay stereotypes and liked distance running. Now I’m into easily-flustered leftist D&D nerds who like getting pegged. Yeah AF/BB definitely covers that /s | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/01/21 01:26 AM |
| 2 | One reason why Women are considered ‘complicated’ is because what attracts them changes constantly.Hentai and explicit fanfic >> mainstream porn No one is being filmed, so no one’s nudes are being exploited There’s plot and feelings It’s obvious enough that the vampire/werewolf/demon lover is unrealistic that people don’t expect real sex to work the same way (whereas mainstream porn has more subtle unrealistic features like women loving anal with no lube) Tentacles | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/01/21 01:18 AM |
| 3 | Weekly Community Chat MegathreadI know two men who think it’s ok to hit the gym before work and directly change into their street clothes without a shower after the workout. I can smell the BO clearly even from five or ten feet away. One silver lining to the pandemic is that I’m not physically anywhere near either of them anymore. But this isn’t exactly common, it’s two guys in a workplace with ~100 men. I agree with other commenters that it’s more of an issue in high school, most adult men have better hygiene. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/01/21 12:02 AM |
| 2 | Weekly Community Chat MegathreadI have two boyfriends and a girlfriend, and I don’t think the good people of this sub want a list of all the kinks and fetishes we get up to lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/21 11:56 PM |
| 1 | CMV N count is now more important than it ever wasI agree, but I guess the mods didn’t? Idk | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/21 10:17 PM |
| 1 | Women don't want or care about nice or kind traits in men. They want nice and kind behaviors from attractive men.I know, that’s why I used both descriptions. I think you don’t have to be kind to get a high-value partner who’s unkind, and you can also swing a kind low-value partner if you’re unkind, but it’s hard to get a kind high-value partner if you aren’t kind yourself. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/21 10:16 PM |
| 1 | Women don't want or care about nice or kind traits in men. They want nice and kind behaviors from attractive men.It means he is able to get a relationship with me in the first place and not get dumped - sometimes people can appear kind for a while, but when I see that it’s an act, they’re gone from my life. It helps me zoom out to appreciate my partner in a non-transactional way. It makes me proud of him and admire him. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/21 10:14 PM |
| 1 | Women don't want or care about nice or kind traits in men. They want nice and kind behaviors from attractive men.It also makes it more likely he can find a high-value partner who is kind, because people tend to pair off with others who have values similar to their own. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/21 10:09 PM |
| 0 | Women don't want or care about nice or kind traits in men. They want nice and kind behaviors from attractive men.People respect and care for him and trust him. He goes through life with a grateful attitude rather than always comparing himself to others. He has real friends. Even if it didn’t help him to be kind to everyone, why is that relevant? I thought we were talking about whether women care about having a kind partner, not about whether it’s beneficial for men to be kind. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/21 10:07 PM |
| 1 | CMV N count is now more important than it ever wasActually the thread went over 1k comments in a week: https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/kumvm5/ncount_megathread/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/21 09:58 PM |
| 1 | Women don't want or care about nice or kind traits in men. They want nice and kind behaviors from attractive men.It serves several purposes for me if my partner is kind to EVERYONE, not just me: 1) It means I can trust him to treat me well even if something terrible happens to me that ruins my ability to be the type of partner he wants (e.g., if a car hits me and I become a quadriplegic). This sort of accident isn’t likely to happen in the short term, but it’s very likely in the long term because with aging nearly everyone eventually gets serious health problems at least temporarily. This is the situation … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/21 09:47 PM |
| 2 | Women don't want or care about nice or kind traits in men. They want nice and kind behaviors from attractive men.The women who care rarely get into a relationship with an unkind man in the first place | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/21 09:25 PM |
| 3 | CMV N count is now more important than it ever wasDidn’t we have a dedicated n count thread for a hot minute to cordon off this repetitive garbage? sigh | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/21 11:42 AM |
| 2 | Theres a 99% chance women dont think you're attractive.Lolol if I didn’t skim through OP’s post history first I would’ve assumed between this post and the other one she put up on this sub at the same time that she was trolling. But if she’s trolling she’s been remarkably consistent about her self-characterization for a long time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/21 09:42 AM |
| 2 | Weekly Community Chat Megathread"Compatibility" =/= "having things in common." You can be opposites in some regard and still be compatible. I agree, but it isn’t random, either. You could have one person who really likes maraschino cherries and one who really likes whipped cream, and together they are compatible splitting an ice cream sundae. You could have one person who likes mowing the lawn better than laundry and another who has the opposite preferences, so they never argue about how to split chores. It’s just that in situ… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/21 09:05 AM |
| 3 | Weekly Community Chat MegathreadOne might ask why some men think they can handle leadership roles if they are so threatened by the sight of unused menstrual products | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/21 07:40 AM |
| 2 | Weekly Community Chat MegathreadMost people in successful relationships have partners who are particularly well-suited to them, which makes them special. Consider all the individual preferences that could drive someone crazy if their partner didn't match: level of frugality, preferred "love language," level of messiness, religion, political leanings, favorite cuisines, preferred number of children, preferred pets... Realistically most people care a lot more about a couple of these preferences than they care about the rest, but… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/21 07:36 AM |
| 1 | The problem with nice guys is that no one wants to think of themselves as "not nice".I'm not arguing against that. I had two main points: 1) women aren't lying to you when they say they wish men were nicer or complain about men not being nice 2) sleeping with jerks doesn't mean a woman is turned on by jerk behavior These can both be true while it's also true that a man looking to maximize the amount of sex he gets can have more encounters by using jerk behavior on the most susceptible/submissive women | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/21 12:42 AM |
| 1 | Politics Mega ThreadIdk that she has any ideas which are uniquely controversial enough to keep attention after the initial bit of interest, and as far as I know she's not motivating conservative youth, so I wouldn't compare her to AOC | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/21 10:26 PM |
| 2 | The problem with nice guys is that no one wants to think of themselves as "not nice".This is probably the way it should be. Some men I know have no female friends. I disagree; I think it is healthy to have a diverse group of friends including some who are opposite-gender. The better solution is to socialize women to be more direct in communications, not to segregate based on gender. But if they know the man well, I think it should be stated directly. I agree, I just don't think that is how the majority of women operate. What you're describing is how things SHOULD be, what I'm de… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/21 09:56 PM |
| 1 | The problem with nice guys is that no one wants to think of themselves as "not nice".Because they aren't giving advice. They are venting. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/21 08:21 PM |
| 2 | The problem with nice guys is that no one wants to think of themselves as "not nice".My suggestion would be not to go home with these men until you are sure you want to date them. This is how most women already operate. The issues most women have are (a) she realizes after going home with a guy or even after sex that HE doesn't want a relationship, and she doesn't want sex unless they are going to be dating, and (b) men pressure her or trick her (e.g., "yes, we're going to the park, but do you mind if we stop by my apartment quickly so I can grab an umbrella?" Once at the apartm… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/21 08:20 PM |
| 1 | The problem with nice guys is that no one wants to think of themselves as "not nice".Ok, but the point I was making is that her words are not advice on how to get more sex, and she isn't claiming she's giving that kind of advice. If you want more sex with someone who doesn't want sex with you, and you don't care about morality, it's easier to go with deception, manipulation, or force than trying to capture her sexual interest in a genuine way. But you have to explicitly acknowledge to yourself that you care less about morals than about getting your dick wet and that even if you'… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/21 06:20 PM |
| 5 | Weekly Community Chat MegathreadThe issue is that the most common factors which facilitate rape are not really actionable to avoid. Biggest factor is alcohol. Not "blackout drunk," even just a drink or two. Second biggest factor is not having a buddy. It's not about avoiding slutty clothes and making sure no one slips drugs into your drink, the main risk factors are basic things adults should be allowed to do which almost everyone does. You can go the draconian route and say women should just never drink and should never go an… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/21 10:41 AM |
| 3 | Weekly Community Chat MegathreadI diagnose you with male pregnancy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/21 10:26 AM |
| 2 | Women love being sexually objectifiedVirtually every college woman I met How did you go about meeting college women? Can you go back through your transcript and think about what the average woman looked like in that class vs. the typical woman you paid attention to and got to know? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/21 10:13 AM |
| 2 | Women love being sexually objectifiedI think cognitive dissonance is an issue many people have, but I don't agree that this is cognitive dissonance. I think this is a matter of mismatched values and/or definitions between you and kissmetilyouredrunk. My best guess is that you value purely sexual attention yourself and assume that anyone who thinks they don't is lacking introspection. While kissmetilyouredrunk potentially feels disgusted or threatened by purely sexual attention. And I would guess that you also have different definit… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/21 10:07 AM |
| 1 | Are late bloomers basically screwed?Thanks! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/21 09:57 AM |
| 1 | The problem with nice guys is that no one wants to think of themselves as "not nice".If this situation bothered a man enough to complain about it to other people, he would likely cut this person out of his life. Do women put up with the behaviour, because they want some romantic excitement in their life, even if it isn't that much? Seconding what Snacksbreak said and adding that it often isn't the same man. She can cut five men out of her life who treat her this way and still encounter more at any place she goes in hopes of making a romantic OR PLATONIC connection, be it a bar, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/21 09:55 AM |
| 2 | The problem with nice guys is that no one wants to think of themselves as "not nice".This seems like a non sequitur to me unless you are trying to make the argument that women should submit to women for the good of society, and that if women are manipulated into having sex they don't want as a result of being more submissive, that's just the unavoidable collateral damage of complementary gender roles. Are you trying to make that argument? If so, my response is fuck gender roles. We don't need them. IMO the ideal is not to socialize women to "never submit," it's to socialize wome… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/21 09:21 AM |
| 2 | The problem with nice guys is that no one wants to think of themselves as "not nice".Women are supposed to be more empathetic. Does this mean women are not adults because they are easily fooled? It means people who are more empathetic and socialized to be submissive are more likely to prioritize what someone else demands over what they themselves want. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/21 02:44 AM |
| 5 | Women love being sexually objectifiedI would say though photos focusing on a specific body part, like the glute flex photos, are more based on receiving validation for specific body parts. Certainly, but I still think it’s leaping to conclusions to assume that women who post those kinds of photos want to be objectified. The explanation that fits better with my experiences with women is that they’ve found through trial and error that they get the most validation with those kinds of shots, and they either don’t think about the fact t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/21 02:42 AM |
| 3 | The problem with nice guys is that no one wants to think of themselves as "not nice".women don't sexually reward men for being nice. Its not what gets them sexually aroused. Say you had a friend who makes less money than you and often asks you to go out for drinks together. You are happy to go out with him, but you don’t want to pay for any of his drinks. When he acts like a decent human being, you don’t pay for his drinks. Sometimes when you’re already drunk and he tells a manipulative sad story about how this girl just dumped him and starts whining about how he can’t even affo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/21 02:19 AM |
| 12 | Women love being sexually objectifiedYou’re giving evidence that women enjoy being seen as sexual beings, enjoy sex, enjoy being appreciated for sexual qualities, and that anecdotally at least a few women like to be objectified _during sex _. There is a difference between enjoying receiving sexual validation vs. being seen as an object. You can say it’s naïve for a woman to imagine she won’t be objectified if she posts a thirst trap, but where is your evidence that it’s the objectification that she wants rather than the validation?… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/21 01:25 AM |
| 25 | Are late bloomers basically screwed?The items you've listed are probably more common issues for late bloomers to deal with on the whole if you're generalizing, though certainly they don't apply 100% to all late bloomers. And at least for the last one (being stuck in a teenage view of romance), idk if that's even a more common issue for late bloomers. But there are also positive trends associated with being or dating a late bloomer. Late bloomers are: less likely to have STIs less likely to have been teen parents or be bringing a k… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/21 10:42 PM |
| 1 | Do you think men should wait for your indicators of interest before they approach or do you think that would prevent a lot of potential relationships from happening?Various traits. Being thoughtful/generous (e.g., offering an extra tutoring session for his mentees beyond what he's getting paid for because some of them had job shifts conflicting with the first session), emotional maturity (e.g., owning up to a mistake, asking what he can do to make it up, and actually following through), showcasing fast finger skills (e.g., talent in playing piano or a videogame), being creative and rigorous in fun theoretical/hypothetical conversations (e.g., arguing the me… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/21 06:25 PM |
| 1 | Do you think men should wait for your indicators of interest before they approach or do you think that would prevent a lot of potential relationships from happening?After getting to know them (which usually means at least fifty hours taking or texting), I approach some guys who I didn’t find attractive at first sight. I don’t approach anyone until after I’ve gotten to know them, and there are many people who I’ve found myself attracted to after becoming friends but were uninteresting or even ugly to me at first. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/21 10:36 AM |
| 1 | Do you think men should wait for your indicators of interest before they approach or do you think that would prevent a lot of potential relationships from happening?I am not representative, but I have only ever dated people who I approached. I either soft-reject ("I don't know you well enough yet") or hard-reject ("Thank you, this is flattering, but I am not interested in you") everyone who approaches me. Occasionally I have approached a person more than a month after soft-rejecting their approach, but this is rare, and I have never changed my mind on a person who I hard-rejected. About half of the people I have dated were people who I was not physically at… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/21 09:44 AM |
| 2 | How much does clothing influence your attraction to a man?Alternative like Gerard Way? Or like David Bowie? (at their respective most-attractive ages) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/21 09:31 AM |
| 1 | How much does clothing influence your attraction to a man?Is it most important that he's physically attractive, and how he dresses doesn't matter? Honestly how he dresses might be more important to me than how he physically is, because how he dresses can signal personality and values. If he's wearing a T-shirt with a phrase that's in accordance with my political leanings or related to my hobbies and in my opinion funny, this can boost my attraction quite a bit. I'm also a big fan of guys in makeup or cross-dressing, guys who wear bright colors, guys wh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/21 09:25 AM |
| 1 | Q4All: How common is it in your experience to get interest from people who are already in a relationship?Who exactly were these "single people?" Were you familiar with them beforehand or did they just claim to be single? To be fair, I should say the ratio is about 20:4:1 for single vs. probably single vs. taken. Most people who have shown interest in me were people I knew from work, a hobby group, or school, so I have fairly high confidence that they were either single or actively hiding a relationship. A minority were people I didn’t really know who said they were single. But I wouldn’t know if th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/21 07:35 AM |
| 1 | Q4All: How common is it in your experience to get interest from people who are already in a relationship?how often do you encounter people showing availability in relationships? Twice in my lifetime. The first time, the guy told me he had recently broken up with his gf when the truth (which I found out later) was that he was planning to break up with his gf soon. The second time, the woman said, “My bf doesn’t care if I hook up with other women, he would only care if it was a man,” and let’s just say she had never actually asked him. In terms of the ratio between how often I’ve had single vs. taken… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/21 04:08 AM |
| 1 | How is your dating & sex life? How successful have you been based on whatever you hope to achieve?Approaching men (and women) has worked well for me. I guess it depends on who you approach | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/21 07:54 PM |
| 3 | Which would you consider to be your love languages and do you have experience of their importance?Men giving gifts to women and not vice versa could make sense if you assume a world where men are making money and women do not have their own money (because if a woman who doesn't have money gives her partner a gift, she's probably using his money to get it which is like he's giving himself a gift). But that's not the world most of us live in anymore, culture needs to get with the times. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/21 07:46 PM |
| 1 | Is a minimalist LTR the solution for this SMP?LTR's based on sex exclusivity (no one want to be cheated) limited time shared, reduced co-habitation, no shared debt, no shared expenses but shared feeling and emotional support. Could something like this work? My LTR with my primary partner works well. We don't have sexual exclusivity, but we do have an agreement to discuss sex with others before it happens and not have sex with others if we don't agree on it. We have a lot of time shared and have most of our hobbies in common. We live with ea… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/21 07:36 PM |
| 5 | Which would you consider to be your love languages and do you have experience of their importance?F, physical touch is my primary, and quality time is my secondary. In terms of matching with a partner, I need my partner to be happy about satisfying both of these. I am able to satisfy any of the five, but if someone's primary is random gifts then I'm probably not the best match for them because I naturally only give gifts for special occasions or if I'm asked for a gift rather than fully spontaneously, and I think if I was going to give "random" gifts I would need to mark arbitrary days in my… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/21 07:10 PM |
| 2 | Kindness, and Respect are not sexually attractive to womenThen, a guy comes along and shows a woman kindness and respect, and gets rejected to his face Finding kindness attractive doesn't mean I'm attracted to all people who are kind. If I said I was attracted to people with dark hair would you assume that I wanted to fuck more than half the world, including Kim Jong Un? There is no single feature that will 100% of the time make me attracted to a man: I find long fingers attractive, but if they're on a man who uses those fingers to type scam messages f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/21 12:01 PM |
| 6 | Opinions on the concept of branch swinging?lol when women say "i have a boyfriend" it usually means "i don't have a boyfriend, but you're harassing me, and I don't trust you to have enough respect for women to leave me alone unless I make an implied threat that a man will come beat your ass" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/21 11:29 AM |
| 15 | Kindness, and Respect are not sexually attractive to womenIf I find a guy attractive, a personal act of kindness/respect can turn me on to want sex with him right the fuck now. If I don't find him attractive, kindness won't change that in the short term. Though in the long term I'm more likely to develop attraction to someone I spend a lot of time with, and I'll spend more time with someone who treats me kindly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/21 11:11 AM |
| 6 | Weekly Community Chat MegathreadThis is around 1% of abortions (maybe even less than that, I know it’s 1.3% at or beyond 21 weeks), and these are very unusual and painful decisions. Abortions at this stage are for medical reasons like, “your blood pressure is dangerously high, and you will die with the baby if you try to carry to term,” or, “your baby has a rare genetic disease that will cause her to be in pain her entire life and die before the age of 2.” It’s fucked up whatever you do in situations like these, and parents wh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/21 03:40 AM |
| 2 | How would you want society to address “sexlessness”?Overall, it sounds like you’re disenchanted with the way government is currently. Why do you think that the solution to bad government is no government rather than better government? It sounds like there are things you want which better government could help with. I've worked shitty jobs, and nearly died on job sites. It comes with desperation. I've worked in labour sectors of government as well, and I know exactly how much a company gets fined for a worker's death ...wouldn’t you want to push f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/21 03:20 AM |
| 0 | How would you want society to address “sexlessness”?Respect, sure, but not sex or companionship Women are not a monolith. The majority are attracted to traditional masculinity, but many women (myself included) are not. And regardless of that, sexual attraction isn't a prerequisite for platonic companionship. In order to really liberate men from toxic masculinity, we are going to have to hammer it into men to not base thier worth on whether or not they are attractive to women. Agreed Which is, in effect, saying men need to care much less about wha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/21 12:18 AM |
| 1 | How would you want society to address “sexlessness”?I'm sorry to hear that you feel so hopeless | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/21 12:07 AM |
| 2 | Weekly Community Chat MegathreadYou can during purge | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/21 11:45 PM |
| 2 | How would you want society to address “sexlessness”?If you're unhappy with the status quo and have nothing to lose, why not try something new? You can debate whether the ideas are all good ones or not, but progressives at least have new ideas. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/21 11:32 PM |
| 0 | How would you want society to address “sexlessness”?We can't redefine these traits and say that a skinny, feminine looking boy is masculine. We can't say he is traditionally masculine, but we can affirm that he's a real man and worthy of respect. Women will be attracted to what the lizard brain defines masculine men as. Women aren't a monolith. I'm definitely not a representative woman, but I have always been more attracted to men who look more androgynous and men who would more likely be described as "cute" than "hot." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/21 11:12 PM |
| 2 | Do you think a lot of men get very clingy and needy after dates/sex with you?I have experienced men getting clingy after a little bit of attention, but the solution isn't to restrict yourself to hooking up with players, it's to communicate better. Before I started being upfront about what I wanted with a guy prior to having sex with him, about half of them were very clingy and became bitter when I didn't want to date them. After I started giving a disclaimer upfront, this problem completely disappeared for me, and it wasn't because I changed the kind of guy I was going f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/21 11:04 PM |
| 1 | How would you want society to address “sexlessness”?I agree that the name is inflammatory and contributes to people hating on men as well as to men feeling attacked, which is why I've been using "limiting masculinity" instead lately. Your idea of just going with the broad term of "harmful gender roles" could work well, too. I would guess that most of the people who use the "toxic" terminology are just using it because that's the label they've been taught and the label they can expect others to be familiar with rather than out of active malice, so… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/21 10:41 PM |
| 2 | How would you want society to address “sexlessness”?If presented with an opportunity to pay taxes and maintain the status quo, or to vote for some RWNJ who plans to shrink government to the point of incapability, why should not vote for them when I and people like me will never receive assistance? When am I going to gain anything from this structure we live in? 1) every time you were (and will be) at a shit job but they at least met minimum safety requirements such as not making you work in an asbestos-contaminated building, you can thank big gov… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/21 10:23 PM |
| 0 | How would you want society to address “sexlessness”?"no no, masculinity is fine, we just hate TOXIC masculinity", which is really just a dog whistle for traditional masculinity. The big difference between toxic (or I often say "limiting" rather than "toxic") masculinity vs. traditional masculinity is that traditional masculinity describes how individuals present themselves, whereas limiting/toxic masculinity describes how individuals contribute to and/or are pressured by a society where men are expected to conform. So for example, being a physica… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/21 09:50 PM |
| 1 | How would you want society to address “sexlessness”?Attraction is on a spectrum for women too. Redpillers and blackpillers who act like it's some on/off switch are oversimplifying, and it's a safe bet they're oversimplifying and making baseless generalizations about women in other ways as well. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/21 08:37 PM |
| 6 | Do you think "personal responsibility" is a gendered thing?less able to successfully claim victim status as a class and in doing so eschew responsibility Men as a class are more able to eschew responsibility without claiming victim status men will readily admit that they were lying to get laid (ie no cognitive dissonance) whereas women never admit that they were lying to get other utility (ie cognitive dissonance) Some men will admit they were lying, some will say things like, "I don't know, it felt right at first but then it stopped being exciting." So… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/21 07:28 AM |
| 5 | Do you think "personal responsibility" is a gendered thing?Men and women operate with the cognitive dissonances that benefit them, and my perception is that both men and women more often make these excuses to the opposite sex than to their own sex, so if you're just speaking from personal experience I'm dubious that's an objective observation. What makes you think that in general men are punished more for cognitive dissonance than women? In gender stereotypes, you have very common but different ones for men and women in sexuality. Men: "I said I wanted … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/21 06:57 AM |
| 6 | Do you think "personal responsibility" is a gendered thing?Locus of control =/= taking personal responsibility. Agreed. women are particularly prone to existence in various states of cognitive dissonance Source? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/21 03:14 AM |
| 1 | Women’s filtering methods are far more effective at eliminating HVM than LVMYou used just "women" in the title and in your third paragraph, and because your third paragraph was immediately before you switched to "they," I surmised that "they" was referring to women in general rather than "a ton of women who are struggling." If you wanted to have this post just be about a minority subset of women, I think you should edit to make that more clear. In particular, it's misleading and/or inflammatory to have a title that says "women" if you don't mean the majority of women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/21 08:54 PM |
| 4 | Women’s filtering methods are far more effective at eliminating HVM than LVMAre you saying that all women complain about fuckbois? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/21 10:58 PM |
| 5 | Women’s filtering methods are far more effective at eliminating HVM than LVMBy saying that most women have choices in who they date? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/21 10:35 PM |
| 7 | Women’s filtering methods are far more effective at eliminating HVM than LVMI disagree with your assumption that most women have filtering methods that consist of making demands and writing things like "no fuckboys" in OLD profiles. First, I know it's a shocker, but most women don't use OLD at all. And every woman has different filtering methods. I filter out people who smoke, people who aren't feminists, people who deny the science of climate change, and people who have long fingernails. I have a friend who filters out men who can't cook, men who won't compliment her, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/21 10:05 PM |
| 1 | Weekly Community Chat MegathreadI can see that dating might be very different for people in different social classes to an extent that this would be helpful context for a discussion if people had very different experiences due to class. What context do you think IQ would provide? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/21 09:38 AM |
| 1 | Weekly Community Chat Megathreadif looks aren't the most important thing for women, then why do all of the "Sexiest Man of the Year/Alive" dudes always just happen to be physically attractive When you're picking the (subjective) best out of billions of men, he's going to have the full package of all kinds of sexy features. Physical attractiveness is one aspect, depending on which woman you ask it might be the most important or it might be less important than something else, but it's not a non-factor. If you were picking the be… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/21 09:35 AM |
| 2 | Weekly Community Chat MegathreadEven if the mods did come up with a way to implement this (and I don't think there's a good way to do it without compromising anonymity), why do you assume that the people who annoy you most would be filtered out by IQ, income, or class? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/21 09:22 AM |
| 3 | Weekly Community Chat MegathreadThen maybe you are also adorable 😊 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/21 09:01 AM |
| 10 | Is there a connection between female emancipation and sexual permissiveness?I think you're forgetting a lot of freedoms women have historically and recently fought hard for. Freedom to vote? Freedom to work? Freedom to own property? Freedom to drive a car unchaperoned? Freedom to go to school, and to not have segregated schools that just taught skills thought to be suitable for women? Wearing pants? Not having bound feet? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/21 08:41 AM |
| 5 | How does "smell dating" data line-up with the 80/20 rule?Anecdotally, I wasn't sexually interested in my primary partner until I happened to sit next to him during a movie night with our friends and realized I really like how he smells. (This wasn't a cologne or body spray, just his natural light-sweat smell.) This is the only instance in my lifetime where scent has had a noticeable positive impact on my decision to pursue a guy, though there have been two instances where scent had a noticeable negative influence on my perception of a guy (not because… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/21 03:29 AM |
| 6 | Weekly Community Chat MegathreadOne of my partners meows back at his cat when his cat meow at him. He also gets super excited when his favorite sports team is doing well, which is adorable. My other male partner has childhood stuffed animals which he has introduced me to, and I think it’s really sweet when he notices I’m on my period and brings chocolate to me. He’s also adorable when he’s sleepy and yawning. My last partner is normally quiet, and I find it really cute when she gets so excited about a topic that she starts tal… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/21 01:35 AM |
| 1 | Conservative Values And Gender Roles Will Lead To A Happier Society(1) Using a study of the tone of words published in books to compare societal happiness over the span of more than a century doesn’t work, and (2) even if it did work, you would have to make additional poor assumptions to come to the conclusion that the cause was changing values and gender roles. (1) The demographics of published authors have changed substantially over time. Published authors used to be much more likely to be white, male, and affluent than they are now. So (assuming the words au… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/21 10:54 PM |
| 1 | MathI’m not going to bother critiquing the framing and context of this or checking all your math, but some issues with the core believability of your analysis: Height, income, and IQ are all positively correlated. Assuming they are independent is a very poor assumption. Being in a longterm relationship is also correlated with these factors and has a significant impact on dating prospects, so that was a variable you shouldn’t have ignored. The people who are at least two standard deviations above the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/21 10:26 PM |
| 1 | MathThe randomness is not spread equally among all traits in OP’s example or yours. Let’s take your example because it’s simpler. The color of your hair is correlated with race, which is correlated with height. In particular, non-Hispanic white people tend to be taller than all other racial groups and are less likely to have black hair. In your example, you should expect less than 125 people to be tall and have black hair. In OP’s example, height, income, and IQ are all definitely correlated. I don’… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/21 10:02 PM |
| 2 | Taking biological sexual attraction to its natural end, will a certain percentage of men always be inherently undesirable?Now and in the past? There certainly are men who no woman will ever be attracted to. In the future? I fully expect that virtual/augmented reality capabilities within the next 200 years will get good enough that any man can relatively cheaply look attractive, regardless of his biology. (And I expect the next few centuries will create options for having fulfilling/realistic sex without a lot of the risks that sex currently has for women, which would make women less picky overall.) When everyone ca… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/21 09:43 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: Would it bother you ifThis is a really contrived situation that has no chance of happening to me for several reasons* but if it did happen, I would be frustrated short-term and would resolve it long-term with a simple conversation on whether he would prefer to have an open marriage or a divorce. And then I would follow through according to his preference. Once the situation was resolved in either of those directions, it wouldn’t bother me anymore. I pity a man who’s in a situation where his partner just sees him as a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/21 09:27 PM |
| 3 | "vetting" is hubristic, self-soothing ego delusion. In a society of rootless strangers, "good vetting" is nothing more than dumb luck.Not having a fixed location where you live, moving frequently | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/21 08:32 PM |
| 1 | Q4Women: Has a man ever reacted aggressively when you rejected him?Yes, it has happened to me. Yes, it's a common experience among women. No, it's not something that men usually do. No, it doesn't justify indirect rejections, because often a woman who gives indirect rejections will just have to keep giving rejections until the guy gets frustrated and she eventually has to give a direct rejection anyway, after the guy is in a bad mood because he thinks she was leading him on. Yes, it justifies polite rejections. You should always treat the people who you're talk… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/21 08:17 PM |
| 1 | Q4Women: How would you react if your partner asked you to roleplay losing your virginity?I select partners who want to sexually submit to me, but switching occasionally is fine! I'm not sure I would be able to keep a straight face for this, but I'd be down to try acting like a stereotypical virgin (which I never was) as a "let's do this once for shits and giggles" roleplay. I'm happy to indulge a desire someone I love has if it's not violating something I need for a healthy relationship. I wouldn't do it all the time because what I want out of sex is different, and for me sex that I… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/21 08:09 PM |
| 3 | Womens dating standards arent as high as men act like they areAlso, it sounds like you were focused on what attractive women do, whereas my comments were about women overall (conventionally attractive and unattractive). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/21 12:34 AM |
| 3 | Womens dating standards arent as high as men act like they areAn attractive women won't actually date a short guy with tattoos & piercings, because she can easily find a tall guy with tattoos & piercings. The most attractive girls will generally find the most attractive guys You seem to be talking about assortative pairing where attractive people are likely to be with other attractive people. I agree that assortative pairing is a dominant force in dating. What I was commenting on was that attractiveness is semi-subjective. Conventionally attractive people … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/21 12:33 AM |
| 2 | Womens dating standards arent as high as men act like they areNot being disingenuous, it is true that tall, muscular, white men with full hair, square jaws, and symmetrical faces are going to be attractive to a larger portion of western women, but (1) none of those features are things that all women prefer, e.g., you have many women (especially black women) who would prefer to date a black man over a white man, and you have lots of women who prefer to date a man close to her height over a man who's 6'+. (2) Additionally, many women have weaker preferences … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/21 09:57 PM |
| 1 | Why does it seem like it's mostly women cheating these days?Reddit in general has more men than women (it's significant, something like 2/3 men and 1/3 women) and biases young. People are more likely to post about being cheated on than cheating, and people are less likely to upvote cheaters than people who were victims of cheating. If men and women cheat at roughly the same rates, you would expect to see a lot more stories on Reddit (across all subs) about women cheating than men cheating. It does not shock me that Reddit has more guys complaining about … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/21 09:12 PM |
| 1 | Weekly Community Chat MegathreadWords can be impactful, and I think in general it's a good thing to consider the potential unintended impacts you might have. I don't think you were wrong to call out this issue as something to be careful of. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/21 08:48 PM |
| 1 | If porn is bad because it desensitizes men, then vibrators are also bad because it desensitizes womenDifferences between porn and vibrators that are relevant to the enjoyment a person who uses them gets out of partnered sex: A partner can use a vibrator on you during partnered sex to achieve the same effect as using the vibrator on your own, without preventing the actions typical in partnered sex (e.g., you can have PiV sex in whatever position you want and at whatever pace you want while holding a vibe on the clit, you can receive oral with a vibe inserted, or you can give a BJ with a vibe any… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/21 08:41 PM |
| 3 | Womens dating standards arent as high as men act like they areThe mistake you're making is assuming that women only being attracted to a small percent of men means they're all attracted to the same ones. If you put me in a random context with some set of men to look at, I will probably only be attracted to a small percent of them. And if you put my female roommate and two of our other female friends in the same context, each of them will probably only be attracted to a few men. But if our dating history means anything, we won't be attracted to the same one… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/21 06:16 PM |
| 1 | Weekly Community Chat MegathreadThe resulting displeasure would lead to them reinforcing their homophobia as a means to protect their sense of identity. Hmm, I can imagine this as being possible, but it's not something I would expect because I would expect the response to protect identity to be more along the lines of, "that comment was so facetious and inaccurate," with anger directed towards me rather than anger/fear directed at gay people or the idea of being gay generally. Also if the guy just has a knee-jerk reaction to r… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/21 05:37 PM |
| 2 | Q4 RP Men: How many of you actually paternity tested your kids?I suspect that as genetic testing gets cheaper it will become more common to do a fairly comprehensive test to check whether the baby has any genetic disorders, and if the dad has also been tested that’s a paternity test by default. I know that if I have kids I would want to test for certain disorders that can be preventatively treated. Edit: I’m neither RP nor a man so maybe this should be moved as a comment on the automod but oh well | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/21 02:16 AM |
| 1 | Women hate the Black Pill because they hate Incels. NOT because they don't agree with it.some phenotypes of men (Genetically determined) will be unable to have sex or a partner Phenotypes are genetically influenced but can be changed without changing the genotype. Personality means nothing, attitude is bullshit Then why does it matter if a guy has mental problems /s If you are making a causal claim about mal-nutritions effect on height growth, you need more than n = 10 or even n = 20 a) If n is the black-pilled population being studied, it includes those who are not violent, and it … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/21 10:17 AM |
| 1 | Women hate the Black Pill because they hate Incels. NOT because they don't agree with it.Well that's out of context as this thread is about why people hate the black pill. It's related. I hate the black pill because it propagates false stereotypes & misogyny and because black pill communities foster violence. F÷minists literally say KillAllMen and no one bats an eye. Anyone who says this is a misandrist and does not adhere to the core principle of feminism, that the genders are equal. And yes, I call out the "kill all men" shit when I see or hear it. research showing that self accep… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/21 09:51 AM |
| 2 | Why sex is male centred ?Sex isn't male-centered unless you let it be so. If you're not pleased with the sex you're having, guide your partner to what you want until you get it. Or just tie him up (consensually) and sit on his face. If you're not pleased with culture, be the change you want to see in the world. Call out rape jokes, educate your friends on female-centered sex, support songs or movies about female-centered sex, support ethical female-friendly porn. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/21 08:56 AM |
| 1 | Weekly Community Chat MegathreadI agree with the claim that if a man does not want to date someone who transitioned to a female This is kinda the opposite of what I said. What I said was that if having a dick was the key thing that mattered to him, then he should be open to dating someone FtM who is not getting bottom surgery (assuming he liked this person in all other ways), as an FtM person would not have a dick. It sounds like you are talking about MtF trans people. Nor should they be condemned if they find out the person w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/21 08:35 AM |
| 1 | Is confidence on its own attractive to women or is confidence + competence what you look for?I've already mistakenly put 2 women through college at great personal expense... with nothing really returned. Were they much younger than you? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/21 07:22 AM |
| 1 | Is confidence on its own attractive to women or is confidence + competence what you look for?The main problem is that women here absolutely jump on men they find attractive.... which means if a woman makes you wait a little bit you can assume she is stringing you along. It's a vicious cycle - if men assume that women who don't jump on them immediately are just stringing them along, then women feel the need to rush more, and if women rush more, then men are more likely to worry that anyone who doesn't rush is stringing them along... I assume you have the priveledge of time because you ha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/21 07:13 AM |
| 1 | Is confidence on its own attractive to women or is confidence + competence what you look for?Many women (especially women who have low self-esteem, which probably is the majority of young women) feel FOMO if a man approaches her and he seems to be attractive on a surface level. They fear that rejecting him will cause them to end up being alone forever or stuck with only less-attractive options. And many of them are attracted to more stereotypically masculine men than I am attracted to, men who prefer to take the lead in making the approach. Beyond that, it's hard to meet people and spen… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/21 12:18 AM |
| 1 | Is confidence on its own attractive to women or is confidence + competence what you look for?quietly competent men are often used by women for long term relationships Do you think that being in a heterosexual LTR necessarily means the man is being used? Last stat I saw was that almost 50% of women under 40 have cheated on a partner... which makes the behavior nearly equal between the genders. I don't think I've ever seen a stat that high, numbers I've seen (across genders and age groups) have generally been between 10% and 30%. If the behavior is nearly equal between men and women, why … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/21 12:07 AM |
| 1 | Women hate the Black Pill because they hate Incels. NOT because they don't agree with it.I don't think the discussion of labels for my own sexuality is productive at this point. I'm going to continue using the labels I resonate with, your new labels are not useful to me (in particular "lesbian-in-denial" is just flat-out wrong), and we've established that you are using these labels to paint me as a weird exception to the rules so that you can rationalize away the dissonance between my existence and your belief that women all want Chad. We're going nowhere on that conversation, and y… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/21 12:00 AM |
| 2 | Weekly Community Chat MegathreadI agree that inflaming homophobia is a bad thing to do. I guess the disagreement is that I don't think what I said is likely to inflame homophobia. I think it's likely to make him feel butthurt if he is a homophobe and introspective or nothing at all if he isn't a homophobe. Why do you think that the statement I made would trigger him to be more of a homophobe than whatever level he is already at? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/21 08:26 PM |
| 10 | What makes “mommas boys” undesirable? As a father, how should I tell my son to not be a “mommas boy” without at the same time promoting “toxic masculinity”?Ok, but obviously there will be a transition at some point. There are a lot of transition phases. Some milestones are: he should be able to handle a full school day away from mom by the age at which he starts school he should already have his own bed which he can go to if he wanted to sleep alone, you should encourage him to sleep alone as he starts to get big enough that your bed feels crowded with three people, and you should be concerned if he's still sleeping with you when he starts puberty … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/21 08:15 PM |
| 1 | What’s the most annoying relationship ritual to you?Giving things to me which I personally don't care for but which are seen as standard relationship gifts (flowers, rings) is probably the one I've most commonly encountered that I dislike. Really anything that is done "because that's how relationships are supposed to be" rather than because I and/or my partner specifically enjoys or values it. Relationship rituals should be personal. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/21 07:47 PM |
| 3 | Is confidence on its own attractive to women or is confidence + competence what you look for?Oh definitely it would be related to physical appearance as well. I didn’t mean to dismiss that factor, I was just saying that within the context of whether people are perceiving you as confident or not, quiet men are often viewed as self-assured, at least when people first meet them. And if people find you physically attractive you get the benefits of halo effect as well. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/21 07:39 PM |
| 1 | Weekly Community Chat MegathreadYes because "bias" is often confused with caution. My comment said absolutely nothing about caution. Being cautious is compatible with being willing to try dating someone who is from a group you are cautious of. If you know that there are a lot of moldy strawberries, you can still be interested in eating a strawberry if you see when you look at it that it isn't moldy. And being woke by todays standards is just another form of hate. Woke twitter is pretty much a hate mob to destroy wrongthink. Ar… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/21 07:34 PM |
| 2 | Is confidence on its own attractive to women or is confidence + competence what you look for?quiet and reserved This can often be confused with confidence in the short term | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/21 06:41 PM |
| 1 | Women hate the Black Pill because they hate Incels. NOT because they don't agree with it.You are shifting goalposts. First you said there was no possible way I could prefer less-masculine men, and now you're saying that I must just be an anomaly, so my existence proves nothing except that it's 99% of women instead of 100%. Aaaand you slap a label on me (androgynosexual) without having bothered to ask how I identify. Androgynosexual isn't a label I would use for myself, because in addition to androgyny I also am attracted to femininity. And because the much more easily recognized ter… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/21 06:37 PM |
| 2 | Weekly Community Chat MegathreadAre there main tenets of this you disagree with? Do you disagree with the idea that there are varying levels of prejudice a person can have? Do you disagree that calling people out should be reserved for consciously-applied prejudice? Do you think it's possible for a person to be completely free of all biases? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/21 01:36 PM |
| 1 | Are simps 100 percent to blame in simping scenarios?I agree, there's a lot we can choose to do which has more than a negligible impact. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/21 12:53 PM |
| 3 | Are simps 100 percent to blame in simping scenarios?At some point it becomes a negligible impact I agree with this, but I don't believe that the level of responsibility we have for consumption in developed countries is negligible. I think it feels like it's less consequential than it is because it is very normal to us (both in the sense that it happens all the time and in the sense that everyone we know does it) and because we rarely see the consequences. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/21 11:27 AM |
| 1 | Are simps 100 percent to blame in simping scenarios?I believe all exploitation is wrong. I was calling out that "I don't need to exploit others to survive" is a hyperbole. Some people are worse than others, but nobody is perfect. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/21 11:22 AM |
| 1 | Is MGTOW just the logical thing to do if you have Asperger's?I still don't know what point(s) you're trying to make, and I'm getting bored with this exchange. I was just trying to understand what you meant when you said, "You're speaking just for yourself." I still don't know what you meant, and at this point I don't know if it's worth the extra effort of continuing to engage with you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/21 10:41 AM |
| 1 | Are simps 100 percent to blame in simping scenarios?Copy-pasting what I said to the last person who made a similar comment: I never said that all forms of exploitation were equivalent. I was calling out that "I don't need to exploit others to survive" is a hyperbole. Some people are worse than others, but nobody is perfect. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/21 10:36 AM |
| 1 | Is MGTOW just the logical thing to do if you have Asperger's?Perhaps I would have given you more benefit of the doubt if you had responded to my question instead of critiquing the grammar of my question. You still have the opportunity to respond to my actual question, you know. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/21 10:26 AM |
| 2 | Are simps 100 percent to blame in simping scenarios?I am not a moral relativist, and I never said that all forms of exploitation were equivalent. I was calling out that "I don't need to exploit others to survive" is a hyperbole. Some people are worse than others, but nobody is perfect. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/21 10:18 AM |
| 1 | Is MGTOW just the logical thing to do if you have Asperger's?I think you're trolling and don't actually care about the content of what I say. I used a common shorthand which you understand. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/21 10:10 AM |
| 4 | Is confidence on its own attractive to women or is confidence + competence what you look for?No. But I would consider myself unusual in how I approach sex, and I think my particular strategy gives more opportunity to figure out if someone's confidence is baseless than most strategies. I only approach for sex with people after I've gotten to know them fairly well in a friendship context, and I reject everyone who approaches me. Sometimes I will soft-reject if I think there's a chance I might decide I like them enough later, but I will wait until I am good and ready before making an appro… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/21 10:03 AM |
| 1 | Is MGTOW just the logical thing to do if you have Asperger's?I don't understand what you're trying to say. Do you think I'm MGTOW? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/21 09:46 AM |
| 0 | Are simps 100 percent to blame in simping scenarios?Probably. I singled out capitalism because statistically MyLadySupporter (the person I was responding to) probably lives in a capitalist system. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/21 09:40 AM |
| 22 | Is confidence on its own attractive to women or is confidence + competence what you look for?The guy who is competent but not confident usually does okay with women who get to know him socially, and if he gets a date is likely to be able to transition to LTR if he wants that. He is very unlikely to do well with OLD or cold approaches. The guy who is confident but not competent is usually able to get casual sex but is unlikely to be able to maintain LTRs unless the women he dates are dumb enough to not realize he's incompetent. I can see why many men would prefer to be the second guy, th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/21 08:45 AM |
| 2 | Is MGTOW just the logical thing to do if you have Asperger's?There are differences between accepting the possibility that you won't find a partner, stopping your efforts to get a partner, and opting for MGTOW. Accepting the possibility that you won't find a partner is healthy for everyone regardless of how attractive they are. Whether you should stop your efforts to get a partner is a matter of weighing the costs and benefits for you individually. It depends on how attractive you are, how much success you have had, how crazy the rest of your life is, etc.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/21 08:32 AM |
| 5 | Are simps 100 percent to blame in simping scenarios?Sure, it's indirect and that is different, just don't get high and mighty about it. You're buying meat butchered in unsafe working conditions, T-shirts manufactured using child labor, etc. It's infeasible to verify the provenance of every item you purchase. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/21 08:20 AM |
| 2 | Are simps 100 percent to blame in simping scenarios?I don’t need to exploit others to survive. There is always exploitation under capitalism. Unless you live in a cabin you made on a remote island you discovered and provision all your own food/clothing, someone is getting exploited because of you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/21 08:13 AM |
| 1 | Weekly Community Chat MegathreadActually your theory is supported by some studies, including this one: https://digitalcommons.pepperdine.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1052&context=pjcr | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/21 08:06 AM |
| 0 | Weekly Community Chat MegathreadThis is the most well put together and organized thing I have ever seen in this subreddit, or Reddit as a whole for that matter. I appreciate you putting in the time to post this. Are these your ideas or did you get these from another source? Thanks! These are my original thoughts. I feel if I’m a Heterosexual male and I know I don’t like dick I shouldn’t be called out for it. You can not like dick, know it, not have any desire to change that fact about yourself and still be in the Ballerina lev… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/21 07:55 AM |
| 3 | Weekly Community Chat MegathreadI don't follow the logic of that. My thoughts: If the guy is not homophobic, this shouldn't be insulting to him. If he doesn't think of being gay as an insult in and of itself, my language was not shaming. 1a. If he actually is gay or bisexual, maybe this makes him think a bit more about that and introspect about himself. 1b. If he is fully straight but insecure because he wants to be Chad, maybe this makes him think a bit more about that and introspect about himself. 1c. If he is fully straight… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/21 07:41 AM |
| 1 | Weekly Community Chat MegathreadThere are levels which should all be characterized differently. Level 1: the ones who I would actually call out as racist/transphobic/homophobic The Piece of Shit. Deserves to be pilloried, divorce-raped, and mocked openly by all. This is the one who says, "I would never date people of X group because they are [inaccurate negative stereotype about X]," (e.g., "I would never date a white woman because they are all Karens") and if their kid starts dating someone from X group, they try to sabotage … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/21 07:06 AM |
| 7 | Weekly Community Chat MegathreadSometimes I think the guys who leap on women's posts saying "you really only want Chad" must be repressing some powerful homosexual feelings if it seems so intuitive for Chad to be the pinnacle of desirability | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/21 04:31 AM |
| 1 | Women hate the Black Pill because they hate Incels. NOT because they don't agree with it.There's always variability in human behavior. You admit this, and then you go right back into making invalidating assumptions about my experiences like you think it's impossible for there to be too much variability. These were Changs (Asian Chads) NOT average Asian guys. 1) "Chang" is a low-effort and/or ignorant label to lump together people who for all you know might be Indian or Japanese or from some other culture with zero ties to that name. 2) Just going through the list of features you alr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/21 02:34 AM |
| 0 | What are your proudest and worst moments of interaction with your preferred gender?Proudest: when my ex-gf texted me (after a year of no contact and a break-up where she screamed at me and called me a callous, hateful bitch) to say thank you - that she had needed the loving support combined with lack of enabling I'd given her during our relationship to get her on the road to improving her issues with substance abuse and mental health, and that she had also needed the space I gave her for a year after the breakup, and that she was doing better now. Most shameful: the second (an… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/21 12:11 AM |
| 2 | Is testosterone in a man always a good thing for his SMV?The science isn't settled on the "extreme male brain" hypothesis of autism, but there is evidence for and against it, and I think it's relevant to note that the hypothesis is about fetal testosterone rather than adult testosterone. I personally don't find that hyper-masculine men are more attractive to me, but in terms of overall societal attractiveness, it's usually adult testosterone levels that affect that. So even if high levels of fetal testosterone do cause autism, that doesn't necessarily… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/21 09:57 PM |
| 12 | Given how much the average woman cares about male height whether they realize or admit it or not and given how men have 0 control over their height. Women have 0 right to complain about just about any standard any man hasSure, if they’re fine with the likelihood of having no serious relationships, which is accompanied by a high probability of no sex if the guy isn’t able to make it as a player | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/21 06:01 PM |
| 3 | Q4W.Can You please rate the physical attributes of men in order of importance? Height,Muscles, Penis Size,Nose Shape, Jawline, Brow Ridge etc...If a guy won’t finger me, that is a dealbreaker for me. It’s not a dealbreaker for every woman, but I have no interest in dating a guy who won’t or can’t finger me | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/21 11:33 AM |
| 3 | Q4W.Can You please rate the physical attributes of men in order of importance? Height,Muscles, Penis Size,Nose Shape, Jawline, Brow Ridge etc...Clarification: I think the majority of men can benchpress me | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/21 11:30 AM |
| 3 | Q4W.Can You please rate the physical attributes of men in order of importance? Height,Muscles, Penis Size,Nose Shape, Jawline, Brow Ridge etc...a) I didn’t say “benchpress my weight,” I said “benchpress me.” It is usually harder to benchpress a person than to bench a bar of the same weight b) average men in their 20s/30s who haven’t done weight training can only bench about 90% of their own weight. If you can bench more than your weight and know it, you probably have done some weight training c) I accept guys who are larger, but my preference is for people who are roughly my height. Unless a guy is muscular or overweight, he is unlikely… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/21 11:27 AM |
| 2 | Q4W.Can You please rate the physical attributes of men in order of importance? Height,Muscles, Penis Size,Nose Shape, Jawline, Brow Ridge etc...Long fingers feel good when they are used to finger me Height is not something I care much about unless they’re a lot taller or shorter than I am, and the reason I don’t want a huge height difference is because it makes most sex positions more difficult and uncomfortable | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/21 11:12 AM |
| 1 | Q4W.Can You please rate the physical attributes of men in order of importance? Height,Muscles, Penis Size,Nose Shape, Jawline, Brow Ridge etc...Assuming you just want physical features that are genetically determined, the most important ones are: 1) does he have long fingers (long is good) 2) do I like his natural scent when it is musky (everyone gets a little musky sometimes, and whether the scent is fresh or zero or musky depends mostly on how recently he’s showered) 3) can he move his eyebrows independently (yes is good) 4) is he bald (bald is bad) 5) How does his ass look (round is good) 6) how muscular is his upper body (if he look… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/21 10:47 AM |
| 1 | Women hate the Black Pill because they hate Incels. NOT because they don't agree with it.So, in summary, you just (without evidence) claimed that my personal preferences and experiences with attraction are not what I say they are. Do you think that I'm lying? Why do you think I am not able to credibly describe my preferences and history? Why would I virtue-signal to an anonymous stranger who is never going to meet me in person and wouldn't know me even if we did meet in person? These are all facts about my dating/sex history: I have rejected every man who has ever approached me. I p… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/21 10:19 AM |
| 2 | Women DO NOT want you to share your emotionsThe main problem with the guy in the sketch is that he is being very selfish with the conversation - the woman tries for five minutes (in the full sketch) to get in a word edgewise about a topic she wanted to initiate, and he just keeps interrupting her to bring the conversation back to his feelings. Monopolizing the conversation is a frustrating and unattractive behavior regardless of whether it’s passionate or unemotional. With respect to your points on anger, the key thing is that while expre… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/21 12:37 AM |
| 2 | Q4M (and women with prostates): have you massaged your prostate recently? Go grab some lube and have fun :)Best of luck! I'm sorry that you're worried about having to conform to expectations of masculinity, and sadly I can't say you're wrong to worry that some women might break up with you over this. If you are already dating someone who you think might not be open to it, maybe try a soft ask before asking her directly if she wants to do it with you (e.g., say you just read a survey which said a surprisingly large percent of people had tried it and ask if she ever had) so you can gauge whether she se… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/21 07:41 PM |
| 3 | Q4M (and women with prostates): have you massaged your prostate recently? Go grab some lube and have fun :)Physically, using a vibrating strap-on to peg someone feels better to me than being penetrated, and I usually orgasm multiple times. Visually, I love a cute ass. Psychologically, it makes me feel more dominant, which I enjoy, and I appreciate the vulnerability of my partner. Audibly, the moans of a guy getting pegged are about 50x sexier than other sex sounds men make. As a general rule, I prefer pegging to receiving PiV, though the best is receiving oral | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/21 03:24 PM |
| 2 | Q4 straight women: if you were blindfolded, would you rather get fucked doggystyle by an anonymous woman using a vibrating strap-on with your choice of size or by an anonymous man whose dick had the exact same dimensions?I hate vibrators Unpopular take but you do you! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/21 02:54 PM |
| 3 | Post a picture of yourselfI'm the one on top | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/21 02:34 PM |
| 1 | Q4 straight women: if you were blindfolded, would you rather get fucked doggystyle by an anonymous woman using a vibrating strap-on with your choice of size or by an anonymous man whose dick had the exact same dimensions?If you're blindfolded and it's doggystyle, would you know the difference? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/21 02:21 PM |
| 1 | Q4 straight women: if you were blindfolded, would you rather get fucked doggystyle by an anonymous woman using a vibrating strap-on with your choice of size or by an anonymous man whose dick had the exact same dimensions?Physically, you're right, there's a bit of varying pressure from the penetration but it's mostly the vibrations. Psychologically, penetrating someone feels intimate and looks sexy to me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/21 01:29 PM |
| 2 | Q4 straight women: if you were blindfolded, would you rather get fucked doggystyle by an anonymous woman using a vibrating strap-on with your choice of size or by an anonymous man whose dick had the exact same dimensions?Does it make a difference to you if the guy would be using a condom? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/21 01:26 PM |
| 1 | Q4 straight women: if you were blindfolded, would you rather get fucked doggystyle by an anonymous woman using a vibrating strap-on with your choice of size or by an anonymous man whose dick had the exact same dimensions?I don't want to deal with anyone's genitalia if I'm not attracted to their owners Yeah that makes a lot of sense at least no one can get an orgasm from penetrating me Actually topping with a vibrating strap-on is pretty good for me, I have a setup so I can get a similar physical sensation to a magic wand on the clit I think with a woman we'd find a better way to have sex than using a strap-on fair lol oral is still the gold standard | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/21 01:23 PM |
| 1 | Discussion. 2 option for my incel self. Which one is better?Idk what you should do or what your native language is, but FYI if you're looking for a mail-order bride from the Philippines it shouldn't be hard to find a woman who speaks English and/or Spanish well | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/21 01:14 PM |
| 1 | Guess the N-count 😘If your ass is hairy, I don't want to see it. If it's smooth, let's go with 6. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/21 01:01 PM |
| 1 | Q4 straight women: if you were blindfolded, would you rather get fucked doggystyle by an anonymous woman using a vibrating strap-on with your choice of size or by an anonymous man whose dick had the exact same dimensions?If your answer depends on whether you want it or not, answer both ways! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/21 12:57 PM |
| 2 | Q4 straight women: if you were blindfolded, would you rather get fucked doggystyle by an anonymous woman using a vibrating strap-on with your choice of size or by an anonymous man whose dick had the exact same dimensions?I look for different things than a vibrating dildo when I have sex with women entirely fair point | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/21 12:52 PM |
| 5 | Q4M (and women with prostates): have you massaged your prostate recently? Go grab some lube and have fun :)welp, I guess that explains the stereotype of straight men having poor hygiene, they're unable to wipe their asses without instantly turning gay poof what a tragedy | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/21 12:29 PM |
| 1 | Women hate the Black Pill because they hate Incels. NOT because they don't agree with it.Your descriptions of what makes a man an incel are just so alien to my experience both in terms of the sexual/relationship success I've seen for my male friends and in terms of my own physical attraction. Going through this list, when I think about physical features that I find attractive in a partner... Less than 5'6 in height and at least 1 standard deviations below the mean in muscle mass with > or = 25% body fat 5'6" is basically the ideal height I would want, though I'm happy with anything … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/21 12:15 PM |
| 4 | OnlyFans ruined NSFW RedditIdk the nsfw subs I like are still posting plenty of content | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/21 10:44 AM |
| 1 | Women hate the Black Pill because they hate Incels. NOT because they don't agree with it.The black pill never included any violence I didn't say that violence was among the core black pill ideas, I said that beyond the core ideas there were cultural elements (within incel online communities) glorifying violence. If there aren’t cultural elements, why have there been several mass murders explicitly linked with incel resentment in the last decade? Certainly not all incels are violent, and the vast majority of incels are not violent, but members of this community have committed disprop… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/21 11:50 PM |
| 1 | Women hate the Black Pill because they hate Incels. NOT because they don't agree with it.If they are in LTRs then they are average NOT Incels. Oh, I wasn't saying that they were incels. I thought your question was asking about all the men I'm close to, so I was just listing all the categories of men I consider myself close to. In order to be an Incel a man must be either a heterosexual man who is sub 5 in looks How are you defining 5 in looks?? Are you saying every hetero man who's less attractive than average is an incel? If height is a key trait in determine attractiveness, almost… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/21 08:26 PM |
| 1 | Toxic masculinityWhich kinds of male-only problems are women incapable of sympathizing with? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/21 12:28 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: Why do you buy more expensive pink shit and then complain that the patriarchy made you do it?Go all in on reaching the singularity, curing disease etc. and pretty much all our future problems will be solved. I disagree strongly with this approach, actually. I think IF we reached the singularity, it could MAYBE solve all our future problems, but going all in to reach the singularity would be unacceptably risky: As I said, I think there are physical limits on processing power which might prevent us from reaching the singularity any time soon or at all, even if we devoted all our resources… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/21 10:27 AM |
| 1 | Women hate the Black Pill because they hate Incels. NOT because they don't agree with it.The central idea of the black pill is that a man's physical attractiveness is not subjective and trumps every other factor in determining whether a man can have a successful sexual or romantic relationship, and additionally that there is a lower bound on attractiveness at which there is no hope of having a relationship with a woman. This is misogynistic because it frames all women as shallow, selfishly demanding men who are "better" than they are, bound by their biology, and guaranteed to cheat … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/21 09:41 AM |
| 1 | Q4W: Why do you buy more expensive pink shit and then complain that the patriarchy made you do it?We would just need to ensure the infastructure keeps up. This is actually the biggest reason I am dubious about reaching the singularity any time soon. For the most part, the performance and sophistication of neural networks we've made so far is highly correlated with available processing power, especially for complex tasks like natural language processing. GPT3 already requires more than what individual computers or even entire universities can keep up with, and progress in upgrading processing… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/21 05:17 AM |
| 2 | Q4W: Why do you buy more expensive pink shit and then complain that the patriarchy made you do it?So the reason I didn't address the points about fewer people graduating and destructive war is because I believe that is just speculation and not founded in anything. IMO expecting the singularity to happen is also complete speculation with probability in the same order of magnitude as a very destructive international war and much less likely than a vastly reduced high school graduation rate potentially leading to internal civil unrest. in my view politicians actually hold back progress. If thes… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/21 04:38 AM |
| 1 | Women hate the Black Pill because they hate Incels. NOT because they don't agree with it.Several of the men who are close to me are conventionally unattractive. For example, one of my partners is 5'8" and over 200 lbs (not muscle), and my other male partner is 5'7" and skinny with a feminine face. I personally am attracted to them both, which is why I fuck them. I don't think I'm hurting them by loving them, fucking them, getting them birthday gifts, gaming with them, and generally sharing my life with them. The male family members I'm close to are already paired off, conventionally… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/21 03:59 AM |
| 1 | Men aren't intimidated by you, you're just an insufferable c@ntThe safety you feel behind a computer screen half a world away tends to fade when you're inches from a powerful masculine presence. If you objectively threatened my physical safety, I'd be getting out of the situation and physically distancing myself from you as quickly as possible. If you just mean that you're buff, stubborn, and/or exude a strong masculine "presence" of BO? yawn And I don't qualify myself to women, especially not hyper-masculine chicks with penis envy. It's cool if my strap-on… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/21 03:29 AM |
| 2 | Q4W: Why do you buy more expensive pink shit and then complain that the patriarchy made you do it?I don't think you really addressed my points about fewer people graduating high school or greater probability of getting into a massively destructive war, you just expanded on the exciting possibilities of science. Which are exciting for sure, but they're not the only important work in the world, and as we get into things like genetic engineering and AI, collaboration with people who have strong humanities background becomes important to ensure we're moving forward in an ethical way, and definit… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/21 03:17 AM |
| 0 | Men aren't intimidated by you, you're just an insufferable c@ntIt's cute that you think you can assure my compliance with a facial gesture when you can't get it with several sentences. So far, you're not on the money with your falsifiable assertions. I do not bang a gaggle of male omegas. I'm curious as to whether you're an asshole who's often successful, LARPing as a Chad, or just experiencing the Dunning-Kruger effect, so go ahead, tell me why you think you're so dominant. Make the best case for yourself. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/21 02:51 AM |
| 1 | Men aren't intimidated by you, you're just an insufferable c@ntI forgive you for not seeing it. After all, you've never had the privilege of being tied down spread-eagled with my foot poised to crush your balls 😊 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/21 01:57 AM |
| 2 | Q4W: Why do you buy more expensive pink shit and then complain that the patriarchy made you do it?STEM jobs are the most important jobs HARD disagree. Some STEM jobs are very important, others (like most fintech jobs) society could get along just fine without. And many essential jobs (plumber, delivery, grocery store employee, teacher) and influential jobs (lawyer, politician) are not STEM. we should be encouraging more people to go into STEM I do agree with this, but I think mandatory classes are not a good method for encouraging STEM. I think if we made our entire secondary education focus… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/21 01:51 AM |
| 2 | Women hate the Black Pill because they hate Incels. NOT because they don't agree with it.I disagree with the black pill's central claim that looks are the main factor affecting men's sexual success because my experiences are full of evidence that conventionally unattractive men get sex. I myself am not offended by the claim that only 20% of men are attractive to women (I just find it laughable), but I would absolutely take offense if anyone told the men I'm close to that they're objectively unattractive to women because the lovely & adorable men in my life don't need that kind of ne… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/21 01:23 AM |
| -1 | Women hate the Black Pill because they hate Incels. NOT because they don't agree with it.all the women who shit talk the black pill coincidentally claim to have a bf/husband/fuck buddy who is 6 feet tall, fit, attractive and well endowed 🤔 👋 Hi there, I'm a woman who thinks that black pill ideology is counterproductive for men and misogynistic, and I have never been sexually involved with anyone who matches this description. I have been approached by guys like this (or at least who match everything expect the "well-endowed" part, I never saw them naked so I can't vouch for that) bef… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/21 01:05 AM |
| 2 | Q4W: Why do you buy more expensive pink shit and then complain that the patriarchy made you do it?Pre-calc is needed to go into calc Actually not true all the time, most of pre-calc is review so some schools (including my high school) allow students to test out of it, I went directly into calc and have never regretted skipping pre-calc calc and calc based physics which is needed for almost any career in STEM (except healthcare Also not true, calc and physics are pretty pointless for most software engineering jobs, which are a significant portion of STEM jobs in the modern day. so yes these a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/21 12:45 AM |
| 0 | Ladies, let me explain to you what men's issues are.lol this response is so angry and defensive, I guess I don’t need to bother with a proper response if I’m blocked but this is comedy gold, and the mis-gendering makes the entire rest of this thread more funny in retrospect | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/21 11:47 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: Why do you buy more expensive pink shit and then complain that the patriarchy made you do it?you cant take away pre calc and physics those are essential. Why? When was the last time you used pre-calc or classroom physics in a way that was useful in your daily life, excluding what you need for college classes or internships that build off them? I think trig, geometry, and physics are very rarely useful in daily life unless you’re going into a profession that uses them, given that smartphones can give you instant answers to questions like “what is the area of a 12” pizza vs a 14” pizza“ A… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/21 11:30 PM |
| 2 | Toxic masculinityYou’re welcome, and I’m glad you appreciated this (assuming you aren’t being sarcastic? I’m ~80% confident you’re not being sarcastic but sometimes it’s hard to tell when talking to people I don’t know in a text-only medium) If you have questions or disagreements, definitely go ahead and write a more in-depth response with those. If your idea of a proper response is along the lines of more detailed “yes that makes sense” to specific pieces of what I wrote or comments about how that resonates wit… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/21 11:00 PM |
| 3 | Q4W: Why do you buy more expensive pink shit and then complain that the patriarchy made you do it?There's nothing wrong with being gay, and I am willfully assuming you used that description as a compliment to ease the sting of your take that those classes tend to be removed from the realities of daily life I think this should be taught at a high school level rather than a college level because everyone needs these skills, and only a minority of the population goes to college | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/21 10:48 PM |
| 4 | Toxic masculinityLet's draw a few distinctions that often are missing from this conversation: There are women who are turned off by men showing their emotions, and there are women who say that men should show their emotions. These groups have some overlap, but there's also significant non-overlap. On the whole, women who say men should show their emotions are a vocal minority, and women who are turned off by men showing their emotions are a less-vocal majority, and this sends frustrating mixed messages to men be… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/21 10:33 PM |
| 3 | Q4W: Why do you buy more expensive pink shit and then complain that the patriarchy made you do it?I don't know the answer to that, and it wasn't addressed in the experiment I linked (which was a controlled experiment in getting quotes, it wasn't a behavioral study surveying the average prices paid by men vs. women). I'm not sure why it matters, though - if the average quote is higher for women, a woman who gets a second opinion is likely to pay less than a woman who doesn't get a second opinion but still would on average pay more than a man who gets a second opinion. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/21 09:32 PM |
| 3 | Q4W: Why do you buy more expensive pink shit and then complain that the patriarchy made you do it?Agreed. That and a few other basic life skills that it seems society at large just expects parents to teach like budgeting, navigating a lease, doing taxes, etc Speaking as a person who never had trouble with math or science classes and enjoyed them, I think high school would be more useful to the average student if curricula swapped geometry or pre-calc with a requirement to do a class in basic statistics and personal finance instead and made physics an elective while instead requiring a home/a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/21 09:09 PM |
| 2 | Men aren't intimidated by you, you're just an insufferable c@ntThe text of this post doesn't describe me, but I do intimidate men, and it's great 😉 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/21 08:52 PM |
| 6 | Q4W: Why do you buy more expensive pink shit and then complain that the patriarchy made you do it?Home/auto repairs often don't have a fixed cost but are assessed after the repairperson looks at the problem. On average, a repairperson will quote a higher price to an uninformed woman than an uninformed man for the same repair: https://www.nber.org/system/files/working_papers/w19154/w19154.pdf | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/21 08:36 PM |
| 7 | Q4W: Why do you buy more expensive pink shit and then complain that the patriarchy made you do it?1) some products aren't meaningfully different in terms of manufacturing needs but are meaningfully different in terms of consumer utility, e.g., pants come in different sizes that all cost the same for the same style, but men's styles cost less than women's styles, and men's sizes don't fit me. For jeans, I usually buy in the boys' section, but for business-suitable clothing I've found that kids' formalwear tends to be cheaply made because they expect the kids to wear them only a couple times, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/21 08:29 PM |
| 0 | Ladies, let me explain to you what men's issues are.Deflecting: check Ad hominem attack: check Even if gender-swapped rants like yours but targeting men were just as common as posts like yours targeting women (and spoiler, on this page they aren't), it wouldn't make your comments less sexist. It would just make them sexist, too. What I personally call out mostly has to do with what's new when I happen to check this page, how much energy I have to pick a fight, and with seeing whether people have already made comments that reflect my views or not.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/21 07:06 PM |
| 3 | Ladies, let me explain to you what men's issues are.TIL that listing off demands you've heard from various individual women, listing off standards that you've judged various individual women to not meet, representing the lists as though everything in both lists applies to most or all women, and then presenting various stereotypes (e.g., "all women have already had what she desires by then and has been dumped or burned") as facts is "asking women to give the same things they demand of men" Would you like for me to give you a sample of what your ra… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/21 08:28 AM |
| 3 | Ladies, let me explain to you what men's issues are.Hon, this isn't "men's issues," it's a bunch of generalizations which in most cases don't even represent the majority of the gender I opened this post thinking you would be talking about real issues like men disproportionately having higher occupational mortality or at least something amusing for purge but this is just a rant of sad and pathetic sexism | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/21 07:11 AM |
| 3 | Why do women want the right to abort?I understand in case of rape Do you really want to incentivize women to claim they were raped if they want an abortion? If you make it very difficult to get an abortion for people who were not raped and allow rape survivors to get an abortion, that is exactly what you're doing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/21 06:51 AM |
| 1 | Q4M: Which body type do you prefer?Of what you have shown above, Kristen Bell is the body type I'd most want to fuck, Ronda Rousey is #goals for how I'd ideally want my body to be, and I think all of them have attractive bodies | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/20 10:09 AM |
| 1 | Weekly Community Chat Megathread (27 December 2020)She looks slightly better on the right, idk like 4.5 on the left and 5.5 on the right? She looks pretty average I'm a bi woman | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/20 09:52 AM |
| 2 | Weekly Community Chat Megathread (27 December 2020)5 as-is, probably 6 if he shampooed and brushed his hair | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/20 09:34 AM |
| 1 | Weekly Community Chat Megathread (27 December 2020)It's due more to societal changes that promote more abstract thinking (which is mainly what IQ tests measure) and increased test taking familiarity than nutrition. People in 1900 would on average do much worse on IQ tests than typical people now, but that doesn't mean they would have trouble with daily living, working memory, speech, or understanding cause and effect. It means they would have trouble interpreting patterns they don't have concrete experience with. Like you would have people who h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/20 09:25 AM |
| 2 | Weekly Community Chat Megathread (27 December 2020)Like 2-3 probably not unless he did some really genuine-sounding begging to get pegged and has nerdy interests that weren't on display in that video | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/20 09:06 AM |
| 0 | What do y'all think of polyamory?Sharing is caring, and if you genuinely care about your partners’ happiness more than you care about owning them, and you have very strong communication skills, then poly can work very well. Especially if one or more of the partners are bi/pan or all partners are homosexual and everyone is with everyone. It can get tricky balancing needs especially if people have to move to separate locations, but overall it facilitates a healthier dynamic with better communication and less codependency if it's … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/20 09:39 PM |
| 3 | Q4W: Which body do you prefer?Most of my attraction doesn’t come from the overall body shape (it comes more from how the person moves, how they talk, the voice, what their hands look like, how they smell, and personality) but no contest I prefer Aaron Paul’s body type | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/20 10:39 AM |
| 1 | Q4W: What is it about a “dad bod” that you find attractive?Here's the thing, though: no one really has "strong hands." The movers are always a step above True, if strength is what you're looking for in attractive hands. women indeed love strong hands I don't dislike strong hands but really the biggest factors in whether I like someone's hands are the length of the fingers (longer is better) and the length of the fingernails (shorter is better, and please keep the edges smooth). I like ~80% of men's hands and about half of women's hands. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/20 11:30 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: What is it about a “dad bod” that you find attractive?I wrote "women" and meant I like the body types of most women, i.e., I'm bisexual I like the body types of ~95% of women in my age group (maybe even more) and about half of men in my age group. Though in terms of overall sexual chemistry with someone (including like personal grooming, scent, body language, and whether I like their hands rather than just the basic body shape) it's more like 10% of both men and women, and in terms of long term compatibility it's less than 1% of any gender. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/20 11:03 PM |
| 0 | Q4W: What is it about a “dad bod” that you find attractive?My tastes definitely aren't conventional. I wasn't trying to speak for all or most women with my comment, I just personally am not attracted to muscular men. I like guys who look delicate and guys who feel cushiony, and muscular men meet neither of those criteria. I like the body types of the vast majority of women as well, when considering women really it's just the extremes of like BMI > ~36 or BMI < ~17 or bodybuilders that are unattractive body types to me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/20 10:42 PM |
| 0 | Q4W: What is it about a “dad bod” that you find attractive?I include the typical college American football/basketball/swimming look in the "heavily muscled" category, like I do not find this attractive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/20 10:14 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: What is it about a “dad bod” that you find attractive?To more directly answer your questions, I think of a dad bod as a slightly overweight male body, and the appeal is that this body type feels very stable and warm and comfortable to hug and hold during sex. (As long as I'm on top, which is where I prefer to be for sex anyway.) It's not more appealing to me than a lean body, but it's not less appealing either. It's more appealing to me than a muscular body because visually I think a heavily muscular body looks bulky and reminds me of an anatomy ma… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/20 09:43 PM |
| -1 | Q4W: What is it about a “dad bod” that you find attractive?Visually I'm more drawn to a lean body but for tactile sensations it's nice to cuddle someone who has enough fat to feel soft. Overall in terms of who I'd want to date, I'm equally happy with a lean body or a chubby body. The only body type I don't like is heavily muscled | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/20 09:35 PM |
| 1 | What makes you fall out of love with a man and do you actually want one partner for life?The only reason I have fallen out of love with a man is that I didn't really know him in the first place - I thought I knew him but had filled in a lot of blanks with my idealizations rather than the truth. So it's more fair to say that I was never in love with the man in the first place, I was just in love with who I thought he was. My ideal arrangement is my current one: I have one primary partner who I expect to be with for life, and each of us also has long-term (but probably not lifelong) s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/20 09:14 PM |
| 1 | Who are these women that aren't getting asked out?I know two women like this, both have high-powered careers that take a lot of their time and both are physically not appealing to men. Neither has hobbies that involve leaving their homes (their hobbies include writing, reading, playing with cats, and Twitter activism). One is mid-40s and obese, one is flat-chested with short hair and commonly gets mistaken for a twelve-year-old boy. I have actually been out to a restaurant with her and had a waiter ask me if my "son" wanted a kid's menu, and wh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/20 08:52 PM |
| 5 | CMV: Even most liberal-minded people prefer LTR's over hookups, as the latter is harmfulCasual sex leads to women who can't reliably pair bond There is not proof of this. I have seen some shaky proof of correlation between n-count and inability to remain in a LTR, but that's not at all the same thing as proof of causation. What makes you think that these same women would do better with pair bonding if they had never had casual sex? women who can't pair bond don't build strong families, societies that don't have strong families collapse The nuclear family is a modern invention which… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/20 07:31 AM |
| 4 | CMV: Even most liberal-minded people prefer LTR's over hookups, as the latter is harmfulShame is an appropriate social reaction to bad behavior. Casual sex is not bad behavior. No one is saying we should get rid of shame entirely. It's very much above-board to shame bigotry and violence. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/20 03:43 AM |
| 5 | CMV: Even most liberal-minded people prefer LTR's over hookups, as the latter is harmfulSounds like someone sees women as "value" numbers and is bitter that women with self-respect don't want a relationship with someone who sees them that way Edit for clarification: there's nothing wrong with not being able to get a relationship with someone you want. A relationship should not be the foundation of your self-worth. There is a problem with sexism, and sexism is definitely worth shaming. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/20 03:34 AM |
| 3 | CMV: Even most liberal-minded people prefer LTR's over hookups, as the latter is harmfulI have a number of friends whose wives ditched them when the money ran out, they got sick, or the wives simply got bored. Some of these women were committed feminists and had a generally hostile attitude towards men. Being sexist in favor of women is not the same thing as being a feminist, and having a "generally hostile attitude towards men" seems like a red flag for getting into a relationship with a man. Hating men doesn't make a person feminist, it just means that they're sexist and/or traum… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/20 03:19 AM |
| 6 | CMV: Even most liberal-minded people prefer LTR's over hookups, as the latter is harmfulif you believe that sex is a special intimate activity , then believing it reduces their worth is pretty reasonable No, you need an additional premise to come to the conclusion that sex reduces a person's worth, a premise like the idea that a person's purity contributes to their overall worth. It is fully consistent to think that sex is special and intimate while also thinking that sex has no impact on a person's inherent worth. It is also fully consistent to think that your own reduced interest… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/20 02:31 AM |
| 4 | CMV: Even most liberal-minded people prefer LTR's over hookups, as the latter is harmfulVery few men can easily have casual sex with lots of attractive partners Why does this matter in terms of determining whether a lot of casual sex matters in terms of how it reflects someone’s ability to engage in a LTR? Women are the ones driving hookup culture. Then why are the vast majority of Tinder users male? Women who are riding the CC don't need or want a LTR. Then when they want to have kids suddenly they do. Are you aware that the majority of women have fewer than five sexual partners o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/20 12:58 AM |
| 5 | CMV: Even most liberal-minded people prefer LTR's over hookups, as the latter is harmfula tiny fraction of feminists want meaningful LTRs with men Feminist women are more likely to be lesbian than non-feminist women, but the majority of feminist women are still straight and interested in LTRs. (Also you seem to be ignoring the existence of feminist men, the majority of whom are straight as well.) want a controlling, one-sided, unbalanced, humiliating sham of of marriage with some pathetic guy. Funny. Zero of the feminists I know want this. Can you be more specific about what you ar… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/20 12:44 AM |
| 5 | CMV: Even most liberal-minded people prefer LTR's over hookups, as the latter is harmfulWhat is your definition of "slut-shamed"? Saying that having consensual sex reduces a person’s inherent worth, mocking someone for having sex, ostracizing someone for having sex, and/or assuming that someone will readily consent to sex because they’ve had sex before. Not wanting to enter a relationship with someone who have exhibited certain attitudes not conductive towards the concept of long-term commitment and intimacy is not slut-shaming I agree, and if you think that casual sex prevents som… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/20 11:45 PM |
| 14 | CMV: Even most liberal-minded people prefer LTR's over hookups, as the latter is harmfulFeminism just says that participating in a hookup or casual sex doesn’t make you trash, and that women who want it shouldn’t be slut-shamed. Feminists aren’t advocating for meaningless hookups, we are just advocating against shaming people for engaging in hookups. The claim that most liberals and most feminists want LTRs isn’t controversial. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/20 09:48 PM |
| 1 | What do you think of boys and men with soft and "feminine" features who can be mistaken by girls?female tastes are so predictable and cliched it looks like a NPC simulation: young teenage girls have a variety of types from artsy guys to badboys, but by the time they’re in their 20s women’s tastes become incredibly uniform - “tall, broad shouldered and masculine, teehee” I'm mid-20s now, and this “tall, broad shouldered and masculine" look is the only type I don't like. And based on the relationships I see, either a lot of women are silently in relationships with men they aren't attracted to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/20 07:32 AM |
| 1 | Who knows more about the casual sex behaviors of women, men or women?why do you assume you always know the full story of what's going on with your friends vs the reports of the men who are actually having sex with them? a) I supplement my anecdotal knowledge with reading on anonymous surveys. b) I do have sex with women (I'm bi). c) I have both male and female friends who tell me sometimes-embarrassing gory details about their sex lives, and a few of my closest friends know I'm a voyeur and indulge me with audio recordings in addition to the stories. My male frie… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/20 07:45 AM |
| 1 | Who knows more about the casual sex behaviors of women, men or women?Women in their 30s are the most likely to be frantically trying to find a husband. A large portion of the 30+ women who are on dating apps are swinging or cheating. Surveys indicate that 30% of the entire userbase of Tinder is married (and an additional 12% are in a relationship) even though the majority of their users are under age 30. Do you think it's a fair assumption to say that the college-age and younger users who make up a plurality of users are less likely to be married than the 30+ use… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/20 06:14 AM |
| 2 | Who knows more about the casual sex behaviors of women, men or women?I never said a single thing about women who aren't on dating apps. Are you saying that your post (where you say "The women of PPD often act like they know what all women are up to" and "why do you assume you always know the full story of what's going on with your friends") was specifically about women on dating apps rather than being about women in general, and particularly women who are friends with me? If so, you really didn't communicate that. Or are you saying that the specific comment I was… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/20 05:35 AM |
| 4 | Who knows more about the casual sex behaviors of women, men or women?Also if you’re in your 40s and having sex with women who are 30+, the women who are on dating apps at this age tend to be more willing to have casual sex and willing to go for less physically-attractive guys than young/college women because they are an extremely self-selected group, even more so than young women on dating apps. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/20 12:34 AM |
| 1 | Who knows more about the casual sex behaviors of women, men or women?I think sometimes it's fair to extrapolate from limited experience. I've only hooked up with two women I met on dating apps. It does not make sense to extrapolate the nature of women from your experiences with women on dating apps. The majority of adult women have not used a dating or hookup app at all, and most women who do don’t continue using it long term. https://www.statista.com/statistics/310335/us-online-dating-app-site-usage-gender/ If you had sex with two women who you met on a sugar da… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/20 12:26 AM |
| 2 | Hot Take: Men are More Compassionate and Less Shallow Than Womena) This is literally one example of a man and one example of a woman b) If the more attractive woman recently went Facebook official with her boyfriend, she was almost certainly already dating him with the intention of starting a LTR for most or all of the time you were pursuing her. She may not have been comfortable directly rejecting you, and maybe she didn’t want to announce that she had a boyfriend before they had a define-the-relationship talk, but it’s not shallow to reject someone when yo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/20 12:08 AM |
| 1 | Are women actually better off in the modern sexual marketplace than men?And it's not just about "how can we afford a dream wedding with the best flowers" it's also "how can we afford to invite all the people we feel like we need to invite" The average wedding has over 100 guests who minimally need a location large enough to handle all of them and food. Even if you lowball this and assume only 100 guests eating $30 meals with no booze and a minimal venue, it's hard to get venue under $3k so you're starting out with $6k ($3k each for the food and venue) as a base cost… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/20 09:20 PM |
| 1 | Are women actually better off in the modern sexual marketplace than men?You misread the stat, it's 7% of all adults (married and unmarried), and since about half of adults are married it's about 14% of unmarried adults. In addition, it's more common in the age range of 18-34, where it's about 12% of all adults in that age range. And within that age range about 30% are married, so nearly 1/3 of the young people in relationships serious enough to live together are not married. I'm sure not all of them are delaying for financial reasons, but survey data suggests that f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/20 09:10 PM |
| 3 | Are women actually better off in the modern sexual marketplace than men?Yes, it's possible for a woman to find a LTR on a dating site, but (a) tinder is notoriously one of the apps that's least likely to have people looking for a LTR, and (b) if a woman finds a LTR she leaves the site, so the population that remains on tinder is going to be people who failed to get a LTR or people who didn't want one in the first place. Guess who continues using the app longer? So the stat about women on tinder says very little about what women overall are looking for | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/20 08:56 PM |
| 1 | Are women actually better off in the modern sexual marketplace than men?There are several surveys in the about section of this sub, I just looked at the summer 2018 one as most recent | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/20 08:50 PM |
| 1 | Are women actually better off in the modern sexual marketplace than men?I'm here as a missionary evangelizing feminism and the gay agendaTM and because I like arguing but it makes me feel more emotional distance, so the people I'm close to IRL largely have views congruent with mine Idc at all about advice to improve my dating life, I wouldn't take advice from here if I needed advice, and I have no desire to "branch swing" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/20 08:48 PM |
| 4 | Are women actually better off in the modern sexual marketplace than men?Based on what I have seen from comments and based on the most recent survey, the women here are more likely to be low N count. And while most do talk about being in a happy relationship, most do not have the definition of a "high value man" that you described and will say instead that they have partners who are attractive to them but not necessarily conventional Chad looks or especially wealthy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/20 08:41 PM |
| 5 | Are women actually better off in the modern sexual marketplace than men?The obvious takeaway given that the majority here are heterosexual across genders and that there are more men in this sub than women is that the self-selecting sample of women who want to engage with this sub is smaller and tends to be in a different dating pool than the men here. The men also skew younger than the women (based on the last survey). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/20 08:34 PM |
| 7 | Are women actually better off in the modern sexual marketplace than men?<1/20 of female tinder users is looking for that ...have you considered that tinder users are not representative of the female population at all and are a minority of women? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/20 08:19 PM |
| 3 | Are women actually better off in the modern sexual marketplace than men?It's established that the average age of marriage is going up compared to previous generations. This is because modern weddings are expensive and it is becoming more acceptable to cohabitate without being married, not because the average woman is dating a string of "bad boys" in the early twenties https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2019/02/13/8-facts-about-love-and-marriage/ https://www.weddingstats.org/average-time-dating-before-marriage/ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/20 08:12 PM |
| 5 | Do you think your views on sex and relationship dynamics are shared with average neurotypical individuals?Most people IRL tend to be more agreeable than online regardless of what they believe the truth is | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/20 02:39 AM |
| 6 | Q4W: Female sexuality: do you need to get off?Do you need to have an orgasm to feel sexually satisfied? At least three. I can enjoy sex without having an orgasm, but "satisfied" is a high bar. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/20 01:04 AM |
| 1 | White Collar vs Blue collar? And/ or 2 year vs everything else?Yeah, my ranking wasn't super precise, see the exchange I had with ChibsFilipTelfordd for more details | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/20 11:03 PM |
| 1 | What non physical aspects do you value in men?A person’s being is exactly that. Is there a way to differentiate between two people's beings? If it has nothing to do with characteristics, can you recognize the difference between, say, my being and your wife's being? And that’s still really your question here No, it isn't, I'm trying to understand your values system through a series of follow-up questions, and I'm tailoring the questions to try to get more useful information. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/20 07:08 PM |
| 5 | Do women want to be sexualised and why/why not?While they both were barely better than slaves, the men could (and would regularly be) conscripted for war. And the women (ALL of them, unless they were barren, and if they were barren they would be subject to social stigma & domestic violence & potentially accusations of witchcraft) would be required to go through childbirth several times, with a mortality risk of between 1% and 5% per birth. Typical casualties in battle during that time period were ~5% per year at war, and although you could s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/20 09:55 AM |
| 1 | White Collar vs Blue collar? And/ or 2 year vs everything else?If you are going by median instead of average I was looking at medians rather than means, yes. I could have been more clear, but in colloquial language both the median and the mean can be referred to as the "average." did you just pull that order out of your ass and not actually look at the statistics I did a few searches of median salaries but just looked at the top results for jobs I thought of as representative (e.g., I did a search for "median plumber salary" and a search for "median softwar… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/20 07:32 AM |
| 1 | White Collar vs Blue collar? And/ or 2 year vs everything else?I might still have trade school a bit too high when you think about lifetime earnings since college grads typically have salaries that increase more over time than trade school grads, but I was thinking about what the net salary would be after subtracting student debt payments from income, since most 4-year college grads have more student debt. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/20 06:59 AM |
| 2 | What non physical aspects do you value in men?when a woman doesn’t want to have sex with me The whole point of the scenario I described was that the woman DOES want to have sex with you, and she has had PiV sex with you in the past, she just does not want to have PiV sex at all now because has started causing her severe pain. (Or if we go back to the example of a gay couple, PiV sex is impossible for them, so lack of it doesn't seem like it should be an indication that they don't want to merge.) its a very good indication As you said, lack … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/20 06:54 AM |
| 4 | Do women want to be sexualised and why/why not?The hierarchy has always been HVM > HVW > LVW > LVM. Are you saying that a feudal peasant woman (LVW) had more control over her life or than her husband (LVM) had over his life? Or that she was considered higher-status than her husband? Or that an enslaved woman working on a plantation had more control over her life than an enslaved man working the same plantation had over his life? Culture reflects what the masses, as a whole, consider acceptable practice. Culture tends to trickle down from the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/20 06:42 AM |
| 2 | What non physical aspects do you value in men?You are focused on one specific manifestation of the merging What I'm trying to understand is why you have said that lack of PiV sex is the end of a relationship when it seems like PiV sex is not the actual important thing to you, merging is. I'm focused on this because you called out loss of PiV sex as an element which on its own would be the death of a relationship regardless of how everything else was going. If merging is the core important piece of a relationship, and PiV sex is just one man… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/20 06:19 AM |
| 1 | What non physical aspects do you value in men?A subordination (to complete loss) of individual goals for the merged entity. If this manifestation existed in your relationship, would PiV sex be required for the committed, exclusive relationship to be achieving its true purpose? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/20 06:02 AM |
| 1 | Do women want to be sexualised and why/why not?women (on average) were no more oppressed/subjugated than men throughout history I think you can make a strong argument that women (on average) were not subjected to more violence than men. But there's no argument to say that women had the same respect, opportunities to lead/influence others, or opportunities to make their own choices about their lives throughout history. what was culturally appropriate This is a major factor, and it's largely determined by the people who control/lead the societ… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/20 05:56 AM |
| 2 | What non physical aspects do you value in men?Of course there are. What are some examples of other manifestations of the merging? thing can have a singular manifestation of itself and still not be the thing which it manifests Do you think that a thing can exist (and be known to exist) if it has zero manifestations? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/20 05:46 AM |
| 0 | Do women want to be sexualised and why/why not?Oh? So then what's the true history? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/20 05:41 AM |
| 1 | What non physical aspects do you value in men?The manifestation (any manifestation) is simply a manifestation of the merging, not the merging itself. In your mind, is there any manifestation other than PiV sex? What is the distinction between the manifestation and the merging if there is only one possible manifestation? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/20 05:38 AM |
| 7 | Do you consider that the "equal but different" label applies to men and women in the context of traditional relationships as described by Alena Kate Pettitt?I respect a person who chooses to be a house-spouse of their own volition and has a partner who treats them as an equal and supports them in that role. I also think that a choice to become a house-spouse requires you to be 100% trusting in your spouse's character and confident in their financial ability to provide. And even then, you should either have back-up career plans and savings or a really generous life insurance policy on your spouse. If you choose to be a house-spouse without financial … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/20 02:59 AM |
| 2 | What non physical aspects do you value in men?Third question that I just thought of: My understanding from your comments is that you wouldn't want to continue having an exclusive committed relationship with a wife who refused PiV sex due to pain but would want to continue having a relationship, as you would still appreciate her. If you started having sex with other women, and then she started having oral or anal sex with other men (because you're no longer in an exclusive relationship), would you still appreciate her and want to continue ha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/20 02:25 AM |
| 1 | What non physical aspects do you value in men?I do not admire your value system, but it sounds like you are consistent. Do you think that many married men would share your view that it's not possible to maintain a committed, exclusive relationship if your wife is only able/willing to have non-PiV sex? Other than sexual exclusivity and continuing to have PiV sex, are there any other factors which you think are fundamental and necessary for maintaining a committed, exclusive relationship? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/20 01:53 AM |
| 2 | What non physical aspects do you value in men?Ok, so then in plain terms, your answer to my question is "I would be unable to continue having a mutually exclusive committed relationship with my wife if she developed a vaginal condition that made PiV sex very painful for her, regardless of whether we continued having anal/oral sex." Is that correct? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/20 01:40 AM |
| 2 | What non physical aspects do you value in men?Yes. I don't think that swallowing is a relevant component of the experience of eating. And I would say that you still have not answered my question, because I don't know how you would answer your own analogous question, and I think that the answer to your analogous question is subjective, so my answer to it does not provide your answer. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/20 01:33 AM |
| 2 | What non physical aspects do you value in men?If you developed a cancer which prevented you from being able to swallow food and liquid, had to sustain yourself via the injection of the required nutrients into your bloodstream, and as a result chose not to share meals with others (because of the pain and potential harm to yourself involved) would you feel that is was possible to share a dessert with your husband. This isn’t an answer to my question, so please, I’d still like a yes or no in response to my question. My answer to your question … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/20 12:31 AM |
| 2 | What non physical aspects do you value in men?The merging and creation of a new entity is always the only purpose of sex. Do you think that gay couples can’t have sex? Or that gay couples can’t fulfill the purpose of a mutually exclusive committed relationship? Also, if your wife was happy to have oral and/or anal sex whenever but had developed a long term vaginal condition which made PiV sex very painful for her (so she no longer wanted to have PiV sex), would you feel that a mutually exclusive committed relationship was no longer possible… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/20 11:56 PM |
| 1 | What non physical aspects do you value in men?New question: is sex still “merging” if you use birth control of any sort (pill, vasectomy, IUD, etc)? If you use birth control, creation of a new entity is not the purpose of sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/20 11:41 PM |
| 1 | What non physical aspects do you value in men?Oh, sorry, you edited after the last time I refreshed the page. I see you have answered the questions now. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/20 11:35 PM |
| 0 | What non physical aspects do you value in men?That isn’t a response to my comment. How do you define a “merging,” and in particular does your definition include anything other than sex? 2a. If your definition of merging includes non-sex activities, would you want to stay in an exclusive committed relationship with a wife who didn’t want sex but still wanted to merge with you? 2b. If your definition of merging only includes sex, how does sex “merge” you more than IVF, french kissing, or eating someone’s fingernail clippings? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/20 11:32 PM |
| 3 | If a man likes young women, leaving is always the right choice.I think most people would consider it weird and questionable for a twenty-year-old to be dating a thirty-year-old. It’s not meant to be a hard and fast cutoff for what’s appropriate though, it’s a rule of thumb for what’s generally well-received by the broader society. There are always exceptions to a rule of thumb. Completely agreed that as you get older age matters less. Which is reflected in the formula: it’s outside the bounds if you have someone who’s 18 with someone who’s 25 (gap of 7 year… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/20 11:10 PM |
| 7 | Do women want to be sexualised and why/why not?Women want to control how, when, and by whom they are sexualized. Men also want to control how, when, and by whom women are sexualized. When men had more control over women, the ones who had the most control were the husband and close male family members (father, brother, etc). The husband and close male family members typically want the woman to not be sexualized by anyone except the husband, so clothes worn in public would be modest. Now that women make their own choices on clothing, the prefe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/20 10:17 PM |
| 1 | If a man likes young women, leaving is always the right choice.You’re wrong. What kinds of proof would you think are legitimate? If I link you to an example where this rule is applied to men (which I can do), would you accept that? If I set up a poll on r/relationships, would you accept that? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/20 09:59 PM |
| 1 | What non physical aspects do you value in men?the essence of being in a mutually exclusive committed relationship is that both parties appreciate the being of the other so much that they wish to merge with it. IMO sex is not “merging” two people into one unless it involves actually fertilizing an egg. You can achieve that without having sex (in vitro fertilization). If you’re talking about sex without fertilization, how is that “merging” any more than french kissing is? Or sticking your finger in someone’s mouth? To be honest, I think canni… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/20 09:47 PM |
| 1 | If a man likes young women, leaving is always the right choice.It’s a phrase which has evolved over time, and it doesn’t really matter what the origin was if that’s not the common meaning anymore. Based on your comment of “til the autism of the internet occured,” I’m guessing you were an adolescent or adult before there was widespread use of the internet. Update your language use with the times if you want to communicate better with people. You’ll only look foolish and old if you cling to outdated terminology. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/20 09:31 PM |
| 2 | [Q4All] What does "pool of options" mean to you?Then most of your options are shit, and you should reject most or all of them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/20 09:25 PM |
| 6 | White Collar vs Blue collar? And/ or 2 year vs everything else?Idk what filters are available on bumble, but if income isn’t a filter option and education is, I bet a lot of people are using education as a proxy for income. On average, this is a good heuristic, although obviously it’s not going to be accurate all the time. Personally, income doesn’t matter much to me (it’s a negative if someone is deep in debt or has zero income but otherwise I don’t care between someone with a $30k salary vs someone with a $500k salary). Education does matter to me, becaus… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/20 09:20 PM |
| 4 | What non physical aspects do you value in men?For friends and partners of any gender, I value the same non-physical elements: Caring enough about my perspective and preferences to listen to the things I say and act on them, being able to express their wants and needs in a way I can understand, sharing some interests with me, wanting to involve me in their life and share their updates with me, trusting me, being honest enough with me that I can trust them, reliability, giving and/or volunteering for charities they care about, cooking skills,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/20 08:43 PM |
| 5 | What non physical aspects do you value in men?If your wife stopped feeling sexual attraction to people in general (including you) and stopped having sex with you, would you still appreciate her just as much? Would you still want to be in the relationship? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/20 08:24 PM |
| 2 | If a man likes young women, leaving is always the right choice.30 / 2 + 7 = 22. This is generally considered socially acceptable by the rule of thumb. I’m not sure what you’re trying to say? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/20 06:44 PM |
| 2 | If a man likes young women, leaving is always the right choice.This isn’t something I made up, it’s just the modern meaning of this rule of thumb. Quoting Wikipedia: That a person should never date someone under half their age plus seven is a rule of thumb sometimes used to determine whether an age difference is socially acceptable.[66][67][68][69] Although the origin of the rule is unclear, it is sometimes considered to have French origin.[67] In earlier sources, the rule had a different interpretation than in contemporary culture, as it was understood as … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/20 06:41 PM |
| 4 | [Q4All] What does "pool of options" mean to you?I’m female, it’s “all the people who would date you.” The word “option” means if I ask for it I get it and if I refuse I don’t get it. That’s what it means on a restaurant menu, and that’s what it means in dating. There’s no reason to filter options to only include the ones I want unless you tack on an adjective, e.g., “viable options.” | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/20 06:32 PM |
| 1 | Couples who have partners less sexual with them.Good luck! Communication is king in non-monogamous relationships | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/20 11:00 AM |
| 7 | If a man likes young women, leaving is always the right choice.the formula : female age = male age /2 +7 This formula is agnostic of gender and is used to explain that most people have a steep curve in gaining maturity and life experience while young, and gradually the process of becoming mature and changing life stages slows down. It says nothing about women aging faster than men. It explains why it’s not socially acceptable for a twenty-year-old to date a thirty-year-old but its acceptable to have a ten-year age gap between a fifty-year-old and a sixty-ye… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/20 10:56 AM |
| 3 | Couples who have partners less sexual with them.If you feel disgusted at the sight or idea of someone you love kissing someone else, yeah, polyamory might be difficult for you to do well with. If it’s very situational, you can create rules for your relationships (e.g., “I don’t feel comfortable with the idea of you kissing another woman so any relationships we have outside of this one have to be gay relationships”) but that does require your negative feelings to be contained to specific situations, and it requires your partners to be on board… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/20 10:44 AM |
| 2 | Couples who have partners less sexual with them.I personally enjoy threesomes, but you can be poly without ever having one. Being poly to me just means that you don't expect one person to be everything to you, you can (and prefer to) feel an intimate connection to multiple people at once, and the idea of sharing your partners either feels neutral to you or makes you happy. Some people would define being poly even more broadly, but I think those three elements plus a healthy dose of strong communication skills are the bare minimum for doing we… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/20 09:49 AM |
| 2 | What professions do you find most attractive?all the stuff that’s been happening this last year For me, it goes back a lot farther than that, honestly I think a large part of it is personal bias because there was a cop who patrolled near my high school who gave out parking tickets all the time for the most minor reasons, always butted his nose in when he saw groups of teenagers "loitering" around (I was never doing anything illegal, but he caught some of my classmates with pot or booze), and was fat & lazy. but they have their good qualiti… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/20 07:09 AM |
| 14 | What professions do you find most attractive?Not sure if there are professions I find extremely attractive, but in general I feel more attracted to someone if I find out they're a nurse, an engineer, a librarian or bookshop employee, a cellist, a zookeeper, or a park ranger. I feel more negatively if I find out someone is a cop, in finance, or a lawyer. And although I don't have a problem with firefighters per se, I don't find highly muscular people attractive, and most firefighters are very muscular. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/20 06:54 AM |
| 1 | What makes you feel manly/feminineI’m a woman, but I don’t really like feeling feminine or manly, and I don’t think there’s anything a partner can do to make me feel manly or feminine. I do enjoy feeling like a protector (mostly when I kill bugs for my partner), feeling like a provider (mostly when I pay for things when we’re out together), feeling dominant (this happens often and in a lot of contexts), feeling secure (mostly while cuddling), and feeling sexy (mostly when I am showing off a really cute outfit or new sex toys), b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/20 12:50 AM |
| 1 | Incel, Feminism and FDS megathreadThe attitude was cold, I wouldn't say it was a position they were advocating for so much as them having a feeling of apathetic disgust towards men and asserting that they didn't care about men in the slightest When I pressed, they also said they don't care about women particularly and don't care if saying things in the vein of "kill all men" radicalizes men | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/20 11:20 PM |
| -1 | Couples who have partners less sexual with them.I don't think I'm in the situation you're describing, but I do have more kinky sex with my secondary partners than my primary, and in some previous relationships I had sex more often than I currently have sex with my primary partner. It's not because I feel that I've settled in any way, it's because my primary partner has fairly low libido and isn't very interested in kink. Polyamory is a great solution to the libido mismatch. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/20 11:13 PM |
| 1 | Incel, Feminism and FDS megathreadIMO the mods were right to take it down though, it's a disgusting position to hold and advocating violence | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/20 10:43 PM |
| 1 | Incel, Feminism and FDS megathreadThe thread is deleted now but iirc the person who said it is actually pretty active on this sub | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/20 10:41 PM |
| 3 | Why is a womans entire argument based on you must be nice ?what is going on in the womans head if we had to speculate Most likely what she's thinking is that you've said something which is true but selfish, and that she thinks it isn't socially acceptable to be selfish out loud. | /r/MGTOW | 03/12/20 06:53 AM |
| 2 | Incel, Feminism and FDS megathreadThanks! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/20 06:40 AM |
| 0 | CMV: TRP and FDS preselect for women and men who are fundamentally not healthy for a LTRBeing servile or spineless actually mean that you are unable to stand for yourself. Spineless means you are unable to stand for yourself. Servile means you're very eager to please and say "yes," but it's still possible for a servile person to say "no." You can't be the slave AND the master at the same time. There's a LOT of middle ground between being unable to stand up for yourself and being a master. Generally the D/s scale goes slave -> submissive -> switch -> dominant -> master. I'm a domina… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/20 03:49 AM |
| 1 | Incel, Feminism and FDS megathreadMs. (pronounced "miz") is the marriage-agnostic term that feminists pushed for. "Miss" is the term for an unmarried woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/20 03:32 AM |
| 0 | CMV: TRP and FDS preselect for women and men who are fundamentally not healthy for a LTRI respect submissive men. Submissive men are sometimes servile (and yes, I do enjoy and respect that) but not spineless. The men I have dated will speak up and sometimes try to argue their point if they disagree with me, but the "submissive" part means that ultimately he will defer to me in bed and let me tie him up or push him around (unless he needs to safeword, which should be very rare if I'm fulfilling my role properly), and most of the time he will defer to me outside the bedroom as well. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/20 03:17 AM |
| 3 | Incel, Feminism and FDS megathreadThis is not sarcastic. I'm sorry to hear you've been hurt, and I'm sorry that your negative experiences have made you distrust people who ask you to share your emotions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/20 02:49 AM |
| 7 | What is the female equivalent to male pattern baldnessIt's easy to hide sagging tits up until you fuck, but it's hard to hide sagging tits all time before you get LTR commitment. In terms of typical goals, getting LTR commitment is the female equivalent of the male goal of getting laid. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/20 02:47 AM |
| 2 | What is the female equivalent to male pattern baldnessAh, that is true. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/20 02:42 AM |
| 2 | What is the female equivalent to male pattern baldnessIt's not a perfect analogue, but for both of these it does depend on the extent (how saggy? fully bald or just thin hair/receding hairline?) and on how shallow the prospective partner is | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/20 02:41 AM |
| 4 | Incel, Feminism and FDS megathreadSorry to hear that you've had negative experiences and feel bitter about it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/20 02:38 AM |
| 8 | What is the female equivalent to male pattern baldnessMale pattern baldness can also happen in the 20s for those who are unlucky. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/20 02:36 AM |
| 9 | What is the female equivalent to male pattern baldnessIt's easy to hide sagging tits up until you fuck, but it's hard to hide sagging tits all time before you get LTR commitment. In terms of typical goals, getting LTR commitment is the female equivalent of the male goal of getting laid. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/20 02:31 AM |
| 1 | Incel, Feminism and FDS megathreadMy first time having penetrative sex was with a woman (who was 5'5"), my first time with a man the guy was 5'9" (which is exactly average for my country), and for my straight female friends and cousins where I know the height of their first time, most were with a guy of average height, in the range of 5'7" to 5'11". I know three who had their first time with a guy 5'6" or shorter, and I know two who had their first time with a guy 6' or taller. That seems pretty evenly distributed to me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/20 02:22 AM |
| 38 | What is the female equivalent to male pattern baldnessSagging tits | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/20 01:53 AM |
| 1 | Incel, Feminism and FDS megathreadAlso re: "kill all men" rhetoric, there was a comment in that vein on this sub a couple weeks ago, and I called out the person who made that comment, and the mods here deleted the entire comment thread. This sub isn't representative of all online spaces, but sometimes justice is served. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/20 01:51 AM |
| 9 | Incel, Feminism and FDS megathreadIt seems like the underlying message here is, "we want men to express their emotions....... But only the correct emotions. And there's a whole list of wrong emotions that men better just shut up about!" No, the message is, "We want men to express their emotional needs and their moods to people who care about them (or people who are paid to care about them like a therapist), and it's ideal if they can also calmly communicate their moods to coworkers/acquaintances. We want to end the social/cultur… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/20 01:16 AM |
| 1 | What does it mean to live a good life, as a woman?since "all" is an absolute that doesn't apply to everyone. I agree, which is why I don't think it makes sense to make sweeping claims about "all men" or "all women." This is the accepted definition of "all," and if you actually mean "most" you should use the word that actually means what you intend. Because babies and toddlers don't have many inherent specific likes. ...have you ever paid attention to a toddler? They have trouble expressing themselves clearly, but they have opinions about everyt… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/20 12:30 AM |
| 7 | Incel, Feminism and FDS megathread"omg talk about male fragility" is typically used in contexts where men express outrage (most often online and in public) about women having a chance to shine (e.g., casting a woman in the lead role of a movie) or in response to criticism of men or a subset of men (e.g., anyone using the phrase "toxic masculinity"). These are situations where a man is projecting his angry opinion into a conversation where no one asked his opinion, he probably doesn't know the person he's responding to or doesn't… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/20 12:02 AM |
| 2 | CMV: TRP and FDS preselect for women and men who are fundamentally not healthy for a LTRArriving late or canceling plans isn't a strategy, but it's a thing that happens if a girl is one of many plates. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/20 11:24 PM |
| 2 | CMV: TRP and FDS preselect for women and men who are fundamentally not healthy for a LTRDon't have sex on the first few dates, and say upfront that that's not something you do. Stick to your guns. Ask him to meet your friends/family, and suggest that you would also like to get to know his. Dump anyone who frequently insults you and/or frequently disrespects your time (e.g., arrives late, cancels plans on you at the last minute, doesn't respond to texts unless they're texts to meet in-person and hook up) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/20 11:15 PM |
| 0 | CMV: TRP and FDS preselect for women and men who are fundamentally not healthy for a LTRIdk if it's easy to spot a TRPer, but it's easy to systematically drive away all TRPers | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/20 10:55 PM |
| 0 | CMV: TRP and FDS preselect for women and men who are fundamentally not healthy for a LTRI'd say very few actually like these men, and none of them genuinely respect them Guess I don't exist then! /s | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/20 10:51 PM |
| 2 | CMV: She didn't dump you for confiding in her about your insecurities; she dumped you for being dishonest with herThis is true, but your revision is unnecessary given that my comment was already saying that hypersensitivity to criticism is an issue for both men and women, note that this was in my comment: It's possible that this sensitivity is more common in women idk I was responding to a comment that implied sensitivity to criticism was a women-only problem, so in the first line of my response to that comment I was calling out that this is also an issue for many men, because in the context of the comment … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/20 08:36 PM |
| 3 | CMV: She didn't dump you for confiding in her about your insecurities; she dumped you for being dishonest with herHow is anyone going to share something so personal with a stranger? You’re getting closer to addressing OP’s question, but you’re still not really engaging with their claim that there is a gender difference in how willing people are to share their insecurities during the early stages of dating. Do you think that there is a gender difference similar to what OP described, and if so does that explain why women might react negatively to having insecurities shared with them in later stages of dating?… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/20 08:26 PM |
| 1 | CMV: She didn't dump you for confiding in her about your insecurities; she dumped you for being dishonest with herThis does not negate what I've just said. It doesn’t negate your personal experience. My comments and your agreement that men get offended by women’s criticisms of sexual skills do cast doubt on whether your personal experience is generalizable to all of gender relations, which you implied when you said: Look, it's pretty clear women are going to recoil if you are critical of them. So men have to curtail how they communicate. — I haven't missed anything. You still haven’t connected your points a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/20 07:37 PM |
| 5 | CMV: She didn't dump you for confiding in her about your insecurities; she dumped you for being dishonest with herLook, it's pretty clear women are going to recoil if you are critical of them. So men have to curtail how they communicate. LOL there are so many men I've had to work with who cannot handle criticism even when it's couched gently. And the fragility of male ego when receiving constructive criticism about sexual technique is legendary. It's possible that this sensitivity is more common in women idk but it's definitely not the case that men always coddle women and not vice versa. Also this feels li… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/20 06:14 PM |
| 1 | What does it mean to live a good life, as a woman?Being related doesn’t mean having similar interests. When did I say that being related means having similar interests? I said that it's realistic for there to be some people who are related and have similar interests, which is not the same as saying that being related necessarily means having the same interests. These things are related to a person’s sex, typically, though. Why should you use a correlation to guess what your specific kid likes rather than paying attention to what your kid actual… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/20 06:03 PM |
| 2 | What does it mean to live a good life, as a woman?what will you do if they mostly adhere to typical gender norms? Let them. this doesn't sound very realistic Why not? My brother and I both have similar interests (in gaming, cooking, a few of the same sports, and computer programming), and our differences aren't particularly gendered (e.g., he's more engaged with religion while I'm more politically active). to attempt to raise them the same based on that wouldn't be much different from raising them based on gender I would say that it's very diff… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/20 10:52 AM |
| 4 | What does it mean to live a good life, as a woman?You shouldn't raise any two kids exactly the same, but the ways you handle guiding their overall direction in life should vary more based on their individual quirks than the gender. If you have a son and a daughter who are both very interested in ping pong, healthy eating, and social activities, you should raise them more similarly to each other than to a same-gender sibling who's an introverted weeb gamer. OP was asking about things that apply to all women. On average, there are things that app… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/20 05:35 AM |
| 1 | Couples with unbalanced sexual histories.No significant insecurities based on the past. We’ve had more emotional discussions about fairness and FOMO with respect to current non-monogamous relationships, but that also hasn’t been a problem because we’re both respectful of each other’s boundaries and good about communication. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/20 11:19 PM |
| 1 | Is Revenge Porn worse than False Accusation of Sexual Assault?you are falsely portrayed as a monster vs people knowing what your boobs or dick look like This is disingenuous. In the job world, revenge porn can prevent you from working with children, prevent you from having a position of leadership, or result in demotions. In the social world, this can make you ostracized, destroy a family relationship, destroy a romantic partnership, or promote sexual harassment and assault. The social consequences can be especially damaging if the victim is outed as LGBT. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/20 01:37 AM |
| 2 | Is Revenge Porn worse than False Accusation of Sexual Assault?I think you mean "if there are never any convictions brought." No, I meant "if there are never charges brought." If there are charges brought and they are false, the false accuser can be charged with perjury and/or filing a false police report. Both perjury and filing a false police report are criminal offenses and can be felonies depending on circumstances, resulting in jail sentences of up to five years if there is a conviction for perjury. So a false rape accusation IS a crime if rape charges… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/20 01:25 AM |
| 1 | Is Revenge Porn worse than False Accusation of Sexual Assault?In what ways? Being the victim of revenge porn has caused people to lose jobs and to commit suicide. It’s not clear to me that this is worse than a false accusation of rape, but I struggle to see how revenge porn can be brushed away as a less-serious issue. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/20 11:08 PM |
| 1 | Is Revenge Porn worse than False Accusation of Sexual Assault?One is still a legal attempt to falsely punish someone How is it an attempt to use to law against someone if there are never charges brought? such as people believing it and smearing them all over social media. Not to mention if the claim makes it into the news Smearing on social media and in the news also happens to victims of revenge porn. I don't think it really does anything nor is it as serious to someone's reputation as a false claim of assault or rape. Here is someone’s personal account o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/20 10:37 PM |
| 1 | Is Revenge Porn worse than False Accusation of Sexual Assault?OP’s comparison was a bit unclear. There are laws to punish a false accusation that goes to court. Do you think it’s obvious that a false accusation which NEVER goes to court is worse than revenge porn? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/20 09:56 PM |
| 1 | Is Revenge Porn worse than False Accusation of Sexual Assault?OP’s comparison was a bit unclear. There are laws to punish a false accusation that goes to court. Do you think it’s obvious that a false accusation which NEVER goes to court is worse than revenge porn? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/20 09:56 PM |
| 1 | Is Revenge Porn worse than False Accusation of Sexual Assault?OP’s comparison was a bit unclear. There are laws to punish a false accusation that goes to court. Do you think it’s obvious that a false accusation which NEVER goes to court is worse than revenge porn? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/20 09:54 PM |
| 1 | Is Revenge Porn worse than False Accusation of Sexual Assault?OP’s comparison was a bit unclear. There are laws to punish a false accusation that goes to court. Do you think it’s obvious that a false accusation which NEVER goes to court is worse than revenge porn? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/20 09:54 PM |
| 1 | Is Revenge Porn worse than False Accusation of Sexual Assault?The things about false accusations of rape is that these can already handled by the system using less-specific laws. Do you think we should also have specific laws to address false accusations of every crime which can lead to social and/or civil consequences? Perjury is already a federal crime if someone makes a false claim in court, and filing a false police report is a crime. If someone makes a false rape claim and doesn’t bring it to court or report it to the police, then the falsely-accused … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/20 09:38 PM |
| 1 | Young men are not being "radicalized" by random men on the internet; their views/opinions are much more so being forged by what women themselves directly say on social media and other public forums.Also not sure where you’re reading radfem opinions but a lot of the Reddit spaces for “radical feminism” have just been where the TERFs hang out, and TERFs don’t so much have an ideology as they have bigotry. Radical feminism itself isn’t inherently trans-exclusionary, it’s just that TERFs have appropriated the label of “radical” for themselves | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/20 07:46 PM |
| 2 | Why are emotional and empathetic men perceived as weak?the majority of people do NOT prefer leaders like Donald Trump (he didn't win the popular vote in 2016 or this year) cultural history & categorization of emotional responses as "effeminate" it makes people feel safer to have an authoritarian leader when their own lives are uncertain | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/20 05:51 AM |
| 2 | Many mental disorders more negatively affect a man's fertility than a woman's (some to a significant extent)Are you arguing that increased sexual abuse (as opposed to non-abusive sexual situations) would increase fecundity? Yes. It's possible that both are contributors to the additional fecundity relative to men, but I do think that abusive situations are a significant piece. it seems odd that autistic women would be less likely to consistently take oral contraceptive Autism covers a wide range of people, but in particular the women who were diagnosed for it in the 50s - 70s were likely to be severe c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/20 05:16 AM |
| 1 | [Q4W]Have you ever been a side chick or on a guys Roster?I have briefly enabled cheating twice (let's call them David and Cara), and I have been in a few longterm non-monogamous relationships. 1) David told me he had broken up with his previous girlfriend a few days before we got together, and it was a few months before I found out that their breakup was actually a few days after he got with me. I broke up with him shortly after finding out about the deception, I was not okay with the lies. My friend Cara told me that her boyfriend was ok with her mak… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/20 04:58 AM |
| 4 | Many mental disorders more negatively affect a man's fertility than a woman's (some to a significant extent)It would imply that all else equal, women with mental disorders would have a higher fecundity rate than normal women. But obviously it's not true that all else is equal. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/20 02:28 AM |
| 1 | [Q4W]Have you ever been a side chick or on a guys Roster?why not? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/20 02:14 AM |
| 1 | The Top Golden rules of dating [RED PILL] ( this not be for everybody, so ready with cautionsNEVER TAKE CARE OF ANOTHER MAN'S SEED. Does this mean that you'd leave your nieces and nephews to the foster care system if your brother or sister suddenly died along with their partner? Absolutes like "never" should be used sparingly in rules for life. NEVER FINANCE A WOMAN'S LIFE STYLE. If you pay taxes, you're financing some people's lifestyles, and probably some of them are women. I do not recommend dodging your taxes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/20 02:06 AM |
| 4 | Many mental disorders more negatively affect a man's fertility than a woman's (some to a significant extent)Women with serious mental health disorders are more likely to experience sexual abuse and less likely to be able to maintain a consistent birth control regimen (e.g., remember to consistently take the pill at the same time every day). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/20 01:57 AM |
| 2 | Young men are not being "radicalized" by random men on the internet; their views/opinions are much more so being forged by what women themselves directly say on social media and other public forums.I'm not sure where else you were looking for input from feminists, but FDS is categorically anti-feminist, and the majority of people on this sub are also not representative. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/20 01:40 AM |
| 7 | Insane.Hey Daily Mail, the word you're looking for is "rape." 90 days is the same length of time Brock Turner spent in jail, why do courts not take rape seriously? | /r/MGTOW | 28/11/20 03:00 AM |
| 2 | What locations and settings are *average* men allowed to approach women in person today, if at all?Your best bet is introductions from mutual friends/acquaintances. If you are feeling that this "gets even rarer as you get older when social contacts/networks decrease and everyone is already hitched," then you are not putting in the work to maintain and increase your existing networks. Your social contacts will naturally decrease if you don't put work into them (reaching out on special occasions, keeping up regular brief interactions, planning activities together...), but if you do put the work… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/20 02:48 AM |
| 10 | Young men are not being "radicalized" by random men on the internet; their views/opinions are much more so being forged by what women themselves directly say on social media and other public forums.You don't have to be spreading lies in order to distort a person's view of what's typical. Forums for groups like MGTOW and TRP will purposefully post the content they find most egregious, and upvotes will sort the most outrageous of those to the top of people's feeds. If every day you see several instances of content that a typical social media user would only see once a month or maybe once a year, you will get the perception that attitudes like that are much more common than they truly are. (T… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/20 02:02 AM |
| 1 | Are pornsick men that common? Have you ever dated one? How was the experience?Twisting and pulling hard on my nipples, trying to stick a dry finger in my ass, things which aren't impossible to want but require some masochism to like. I know that these were learned from porn both because neither of these guys had previous experience and because both of them used the excuse that they'd seen it in porn when I told them to stop. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/20 09:29 PM |
| 0 | What are your views on cheating and cheaters?Is a person who cheats ever capable of future loyalty, whether in the same relationship or a future one? Yes in a future relationship, very extremely unlikely but still possible in the same relationship. When people cheat, is it always the cheater's fault, or can some blame be placed on their partner, say for being sexually unavailable in the case of women, or emotionally unavailable in the case of men? It is always the cheater's fault AND usually some part of the blame (most often less than 1/4… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/20 09:19 PM |
| 3 | Do most women have an inbuilt instinct that prevents them from being attracted to someone without a connection?The majority of men prefer to be sexually dominant while the majority of women prefer to be submissive. That on its own would be enough to explain why being in a position of power over an attractive woman turns on the typical man more than a typical woman is turned on by being in a position of power over an attractive man. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/20 05:21 PM |
| 2 | Are pornsick men that common? Have you ever dated one? How was the experience?No one who I would describe as pornsick, but a few inexperienced guys who started trying something they'd seen in porn before I set them straight. None of them repeated the issue once I'd called out that I disliked it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/20 09:47 AM |
| 2 | In your experience, what have been the differences between the men you've just slept with and the ones you wanted/had a relationship with? Was bb/af part of it or it was a completely different system not discussed in PPD?There is no one I've just slept with. I've had either a friendship (actual friendship, not fuck-buddy "friendship," these were all people who I'd had ~50 hours of conversation with or more prior to fucking) or a romantic relationship with everyone I've slept with. A handjob is the farthest I've gone with someone who I lacked a relationship with, and that was only once. I thought I wanted to fuck him when I invited him back to my place, but I realized a few minutes into kissing that the casual se… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/20 09:40 AM |
| 5 | Penis-size-manifesto: bigger is better up until the point of inconvenience?Is him having a big, but not inconveniently big, penis preferable to him having a precisely average penis? Not for me. I don't care that much, but my perfect ideal is roughly average length (~5") and slightly below-average girth (~4"). I'm ok with anything below 8" length and 6" girth though. It's not a huge deal for me because I get the most pleasure from receiving oral/manual sex and pegging with a vibrating strap-on. Is average actually seen as being interchangeable with small? No. Everything… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/20 09:20 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Men are the more romantic gender.Ok, I'm pulling up a list of the best-selling books of all time and classifying them by male vs. female author, by whether there's a real romance or not, and by the gender that's more self-sacrificing in the context of the romance. Summary of the most popular books of all time: male authors have 3 books with equitable romances, 5 with romances where the woman sacrifices more, and at most 1 with a romance where the man sacrifices more. Books by female authors have 7 books with equitable romances.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/20 09:04 AM |
| 29 | CMV: Men are the more romantic gender.I don't know about which gender is more romantic on average, but your examples are anecdotal, and it's very easy to find counterexamples in romance stories. (Also given that 50 Shades was originally fanfiction of Twilight, it's a little strange to use those two series as two separate examples, they're basically the same characters.) If you want a woman-written romance where the woman is self-sacrificing and they spend a long time getting to know each other? Jane Eyre. A male-written romance wher… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/20 11:20 AM |
| 1 | Q4W: What's with you all and your unofficial "Recommend A Friend" program?If it helps with your understanding, I consider this very similar to trying to help friends network professionally and/or offering to be a reference for a friend (which I also do). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/20 02:56 AM |
| 1 | Q4W: What's with you all and your unofficial "Recommend A Friend" program?I have worked to set people up a few times, though (a) only if I have several reasons to think they're compatible beyond being single and of compatible sexuality (e.g., they're both vegans + her body type is similar to what I've seen him attracted to in the past + he cooks and she loves a man who cooks + they both like board games), and (b) rather than trying to get them to agree to a blind date I would invite them both to a small get-together with me plus a couple other friends and introduce th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/20 02:41 AM |
| 0 | Why do sexual fantasies seem to deeply follow gender norms?As I said earlier, you're entitled to your preferences. Different strokes for different folks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/20 09:00 PM |
| 1 | Why do sexual fantasies seem to deeply follow gender norms?I wasn't taking about sexual stamina in bed, when I said "in a primary or monogamous relationship," I meant the relationship would end in a few months or less. But since you bring it up, being with a dominant partner would also lower my libido and likely make me feel sore/stretched more quickly, so this would also reduce my sexual stamina in the sense that I wouldn't want to have sex for as long, and I think I'd be lucky to get off even once per fuck. I don't think I would voluntarily accept mor… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/20 08:30 PM |
| 1 | Why do sexual fantasies seem to deeply follow gender norms?Personally, I would not last long in a primary or monogamous relationship with a dominant man (or a dominant woman). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/20 07:56 PM |
| 1 | Why do sexual fantasies seem to deeply follow gender norms?You're entitled to your own preferences. That doesn't mean sexual submission is pathetic, regardless of gender. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/20 07:54 PM |
| 1 | If you'd be allmighty and could change one thing on female and male strategies and ideas about dating/commiting - what would it be and why?If my main goal was high-quality humans after a few generations? Make everyone 100% homosexual so the only kids that happen are by choice through artificial insemination. Everyone gets a fair shake in the sex marketplace, only the people who want to be parents (and presumably will be better parents as a result of actually wanting the kids) become parents, and people intentionally select who they want as gamete donors. IMO intentional selection for what you want your kid to be like would create b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/20 07:45 PM |
| 1 | Why do sexual fantasies seem to deeply follow gender norms?Submission is not weakness. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/20 06:37 PM |
| 1 | Why do sexual fantasies seem to deeply follow gender norms?Are you saying that actual femdom relationships are usually findom, or are you saying that most femdom interactions are prostitution? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/20 06:36 PM |
| 0 | Why do sexual fantasies seem to deeply follow gender norms?Submission is not pathetic. It's a beautiful display of trust, which is in many ways more brave than taking control. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/20 06:32 PM |
| 2 | Why do sexual fantasies seem to deeply follow gender norms?Possibly, but I would express that as, "most people who say they want to be submissive are just being lazy." Actually submitting is not lazy, you need to be aware of what your partner wants, reading their non-verbal cues, and actively doing what they ask of you. I do think though that there are reasons submissive attitudes are more common overall than dominant ones. Submission gives validation/confidence that you (or at least what you're doing) is desired, and it frees you from feeling responsib… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/20 06:30 PM |
| 1 | Why do sexual fantasies seem to deeply follow gender norms?It's an invasive feeling, but it isn't inherently a submissive feeling. For example, pregnancy is also invasive, but most women who stay pregnant feel that they are protecting and guiding the development of a tiny life more than that they are submitting to the needs of a parasite. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/20 06:09 PM |
| 1 | Why do sexual fantasies seem to deeply follow gender norms?Top/bottom in gay sex refers to who's being penetrated. Top/bottom in BDSM refers to who's actively causing the stimulation, regardless of whether there's even penetration. Dom/sub refers to who is mentally in control of the action, regardless of who is physically doing the work. A woman PIV riding a man and slapping his face is the top. If she planned the scene and decided how it should go, she's also the dom. If he planned it and is directing her on how/when to move, he's the dom. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/20 06:01 PM |
| 4 | Why do sexual fantasies seem to deeply follow gender norms?In PIV sex, women are bottoms and men are the tops. This is true even when women are on top, it doesn’t matter. I disagree. I often top with PIV for the sole reason that I feel most dominant when he's quivering under me begging to cum and struggling to hold back just because I want him to. Or if I keep holding onto him after he's gone soft and force him hard again. It doesn't feel physically as good for me as receiving oral or pegging with a vibe, but it still feels good, and it is for me more d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/20 05:46 PM |
| 1 | Why do people waste so much time trying to have sex?My comment was in response to OP giving up on sex entirely. I'm not saying that people who already have other kinds of sex should stop. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/20 05:32 PM |
| 4 | Why do people waste so much time trying to have sex?Oral sex has zero risk of pregnancy ;) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/11/20 12:05 AM |
| 1 | when will sex robots and robot wives become a thing? maybe the year 2100+?They’re already here: https://www.robotcompanion.ai/ They just aren’t cheap (though they aren’t completely out of reach for the middle class, this looks like it costs a similar amount to a used car and you can get a monthly payment plan), aren’t 100% lifelike, and don’t provide ego validation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/20 10:52 PM |
| 2 | wineAll the looks money can buy if you’re willing to do plastic surgery and Botox | /r/MGTOW | 20/11/20 07:37 PM |
| 2 | Another good one from offensivejokesWe live in a modern age where military power is defined more by the tech/training than by the number of soldiers on the ground, isn’t it time to abolish the draft entirely? | /r/MGTOW | 20/11/20 07:26 PM |
| 1 | Arguments against Alpha Fucks Beta Bucksif I advance my career over trying to be alpha then I would get cheated on All else equal, advancing your career is usually good for your relationship prospects, especially as a man. However, in the context of an individual, it’s almost never “all else equal” because advancing in your career usually means focusing on your work life and prioritizing it above other aspects of your life. I don’t know you, so I can’t tell you what the best balance is for you, but if you want to maintain a solid rela… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/11/20 01:30 AM |
| 1 | Arguments against Alpha Fucks Beta BucksI would not characterize myself as purple pill, because my personal philosophy is a lot closer to “blue pill, but with more people” than “mix of the red pill and blue pill.” I think that similarity (particularly similarity in values, but also interests) is very important for long term attraction but also it’s very hard to find anyone who will match you in all the ways that are important to you. With polyamory, there’s a built-in outlet for times when you’re annoyed by an incompatibility with you… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/11/20 01:09 AM |
| 1 | Arguments against Alpha Fucks Beta BucksI don’t think the AF/BB model accurately represents attraction, as I said in my comment directly on your post - my belief is that perceived similarity is the most important part of attraction (with good looks significantly helping perceived similarity in the short term). In fact, I’m dubious in general about the concept of an “alpha” as any kind of meaningful description, and in this thread I was trying to pin down how people who do believe in the AF/BB mating strategy define these terms. Polyam… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/11/20 12:23 AM |
| 3 | How accountable are you for your success, or lack thereof, when it comes to your relationships with your opposite sex?If you got the delivery and tone just right, it could come off as funny, but that would be a very challenging delivery to make, especially to someone who doesn’t know you well. I think you’d be much more likely to give a vibe that’s either completely sad or completely scary rather than scary-funny. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/20 11:50 PM |
| 1 | Arguments against Alpha Fucks Beta BucksWhat makes the first person I had sex with more alpha than anyone I had sex with later? And does that still hold true if the first person I fucked in a penetrative way was a woman (which she was)? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/20 11:47 PM |
| 1 | Arguments against Alpha Fucks Beta BucksSure, the evo psych take on why perceived similarity is so important for attraction is that humans survived as a species largely due to social cooperation within a group/tribe, and tribes often competed against each other either indirectly or violently. So there’s a strong evolutionary preference for quickly recognizing and trusting the in-group while being distrustful of and disliking the out-group. With this kind of social interaction, you want to keep reproduction and the vulnerability of sex… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/20 11:42 PM |
| 1 | Arguments against Alpha Fucks Beta BucksUsually, AF/BB refers to the idea that women have a dual mating strategy, and that’s the context of the OP. Do you have opinions on the OP’s description of a dual mating strategy for women, or were you just commenting to clarify what it means to be an AF or BB man (with no thoughts on how this connects to the idea of individual women having a dual mating strategy)? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/20 11:23 PM |
| 1 | Arguments against Alpha Fucks Beta BucksIf alpha and beta status are determined entirely by what the man is able to get rather than what an individual woman is attracted to, how does this categorization support AF/BB as an explanation of the behavior of individual women? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/20 11:13 PM |
| 1 | Arguments against Alpha Fucks Beta BucksThe AF/BB paradigm ignores one of the most important components of attraction: perceived similarity. Maintaining perceived similarity is not particularly an alpha or a beta trait, but it requires a higher level of actual similarity to maintain in a long-term relationship than a brief encounter. The paradigm that perceived similarity is king explains increased desire for people who aren’t long-term partners (because it’s easier to imagine you have a lot of things in common with someone new than t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/20 11:08 PM |
| 0 | Arguments against Alpha Fucks Beta BucksBy your definitions, there is no one who would be an “alpha” to me because I require trust and respect as a prerequisite to sex, and those cannot develop solely through short-term interactions (rule of thumb is that it takes at least 50 hours of small-group or one-on-one conversations to reach this for me). Unless you think ~50 hours of conversation and trust can be considered short-term charisma? Also my interactions with “betas” have always resulted in either no net flow of resources or a net … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/20 10:27 PM |
| 8 | Arguments against Alpha Fucks Beta BucksCelebrities are mostly hot and charismatic, so probably by red pill standards celebrities would often be the elusive “alpha bux” | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/20 09:30 PM |
| 1 | How accountable are you for your success, or lack thereof, when it comes to your relationships with your opposite sex?I'm lucky with respect to genetics and with respect to growing up in a two-parent, stable, UMC family. Definitely wouldn't be where I am today without those factors, but I also wouldn't be as successful as I have been if I hadn't put in the work to get myself in proximity to good people, developed my communication skills, been willing to discard traditional norms to set up relationship structures that work for me, and learned from each of my relationships. It's very hard to imagine a counterfact… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/20 07:05 PM |
| 5 | How accountable are you for your success, or lack thereof, when it comes to your relationships with your opposite sex?I’ll tell her that I buried the last girl I was with there lmao If a guy said this to me straight-faced and not with threatening vibes, my initial assumption would be that his previous gf actually did die but probably of something that wasn't his fault (e.g., car crash), and going into sympathy mode would temporarily kill any romantic mood I was in. IMO it's a dick move to lie to someone in order to jerk them around emotionally and see how they respond. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/20 06:39 PM |
| 0 | Women misunderstand male psychology when they shit testIt's the catch-all red pill term for feeling like a hero for handling a normal social interaction in a dickish way and for avoiding cognitive dissonance about getting a negative response from women when a he turns every kind of conversation into an arrogant demand for sex. Sometimes it refers to genuine teasing/banter, more often it refers to comments a woman makes when she wants a guy to go away (like "I have a boyfriend" when she doesn't), sometimes it refers to ordinary requests which a perso… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/20 03:58 AM |
| 2 | Women misunderstand male psychology when they shit testThe red pill and PUA communities fundamentally misunderstand so-called "shit tests." There are three things that get lumped together in this category, and they're very different kinds of situations. But in none of them is "passing" the test red-pill style just an unqualified success. 1) When you don't have an existing sexual relationship, a "shit test" usually means the woman is NOT into you but is too nice/polite/socially anxious to give you a hard no. Assholes "pass" a shit test by being so pu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/20 08:47 PM |
| 1 | Is it wrong/weird for inexperienced men/women to intentionally date down to find a partner “on their level”Women want an assertive partner. most women You can't be assertive with something you have little to no experience with. Maybe you can’t. That doesn’t make it impossible for others. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/20 06:07 AM |
| 3 | How to converse with men in a platonic way without giving off vibes, without resorting to being cold or rude?Interact normally unless and until you get a sense that the guy you’re talking to is trying to make it sexual. When you first start noticing a more sexual note, bring up your boyfriend in the conversation, like, “Oh, that reminds me of something my boyfriend said last night,” then proceed to say whatever you were going to say anyway but phrase it like you had a conversation about the same thing with your boyfriend already rather than like it’s all your own thoughts. This is a lie, but it reminds… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/20 07:59 PM |
| 2 | Is it wrong/weird for inexperienced men/women to intentionally date down to find a partner “on their level”And you’re so sure you have a better understanding of women in general because why? I also have experience dating women (I’m bi), and I have seen the dating lives of my female friends. I am not sure why you think your experiences with women are more relevant. I know that I’m not typical, but most women are not turned off by virginity, per se. It’s common to be turned off by things that are correlated with inexperience but not inextricably linked, e.g., not being able to figure out where the clit… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/20 04:02 PM |
| 1 | Is it wrong/weird for inexperienced men/women to intentionally date down to find a partner “on their level”I am a woman IRL, so my experience applies to IRL women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/20 03:24 PM |
| 8 | Can you break down your enjoyment of sex or lack of such?There’s a difference between being able to have an orgasm during PiV with a good partner vs. being able to orgasm from PiV on its own. Anatomically, it’s the clit that gives the orgasm. The clit has a significant amount of material internally, but how close that is to the vaginal passage varies from woman to woman, so some women can get off just with stimulation to the internal part of the clit while others can’t. With a good partner, you’ll see a lot more women able to cum during PiV than women… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/20 03:17 PM |
| 2 | Traditional Masculinity is good for a man's mental health and well beingYou don’t see studies on “toxic femininity” because the feminine behaviors that are negative are broadly understood to be negative and are not glamorized the way that violence and excessive aggression are sometimes seen as honorable or “manly” in a positive sense. When researchers study toxic behaviors/mindsets related to femininity, what you see is studies on neurosis, depression, anxiety, promiscuity, eating disorders...obviously none of these are unique to women, but they are definitely coded… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/20 03:01 PM |
| 5 | Traditional Masculinity is good for a man's mental health and well beingI’m not saying there are no gendered insults for men or even that there are fewer gendered insults for men. I’m saying that society definitely does not see female behavior as “immaculate.” Also, bitch and pussy are absolutely gendered terms. Even when they’re applied to men, the meaning is that the man is being excessively feminine. If a man is called a pussy, it usually means he is being seen as cowardly in an effeminate way. If a man is called a bitch, it usually means he’s being petty and/or … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/20 02:48 PM |
| 3 | Is it wrong/weird for inexperienced men/women to intentionally date down to find a partner “on their level”As someone who’s experienced, it’s a turn-on to teach a partner who is attentive and excited to learn. It’s only a turn-off to teach someone if they don’t take pointers well, especially if they think they have nothing to learn. I teach all my partners what I specifically like, and I pay attention to figure out what each of them likes. Experience with someone else doesn’t translate into skills that work well with me. So I don’t agree with the premise that someone with the same amount of experienc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/20 02:39 PM |
| 1 | Is it wrong/weird for inexperienced men/women to intentionally date down to find a partner “on their level”I am happy to teach an inexperienced partner. I’ve found that inexperienced partners are much less likely to be set in some way of doing things and more likely to be willing to adapt to what actually gets me off. The only times I’ve felt sexual incompatibility it was because my partner wouldn’t listen to me and/or got in a rut of just wanting to do the exact same procedure every time. I enjoy being active and in control. Having experience does not mean having experience with me, and that’s what … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/20 02:28 PM |
| 4 | Traditional Masculinity is good for a man's mental health and well beingYeah, society thinks of all feminine behavior as immaculate. That’s why we have the gendered insults, “bitch,” “slut,” “pussy,” and “cunt,” and it’s why people commonly refer to women as crazy to the point where it has become a meme that no woman is both hot and sane. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/20 02:10 PM |
| 4 | Can you break down your enjoyment of sex or lack of such?I love sex, especially receiving oral and pegging with a vibrating strap. And kissing is great. I also like giving oral if the person is someone I like and has good hygiene, and I like PIV or receiving a strap if the dick/strap is small (bonus if it vibrates) AND I’m already very wet (possibly with lube) AND I’m in control of the pacing/movement. If a guy is interested in PIV, my ideal version of that is for him to get me off a few times with mouth/fingers and then just lie back (possibly tied u… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/20 02:00 PM |
| 10 | Can you break down your enjoyment of sex or lack of such?A lot of historical texts describe sex as a wife’s duty or obligation to her husband. Would that be the case if most women liked it? If anything, I would guess the modern sharing of information and greater average caring about women’s pleasure has made sex better for women now than it was historically. Also antibiotics to deal with UTIs and lube and modern medicine around pregnancy/childbirth have definitely made sex better for women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/20 01:48 PM |
| 2 | Has real or perceived male preference for low n-count ever impacted you or another woman you know?The only things that have kept me from sleeping with people I wanted to have been monogamy, the prospective partner coming down with illness or heavy inebriation during my window of opportunity, fear of rejection (when I was a teenager - I don’t let this fear control me anymore), actual rejection, and fear of pregnancy. I don’t think I’ve ever turned down sex due to concerns about N count, and I haven’t lied to anyone about my count, either (unless you count lies of omission to my family, becaus… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/20 01:58 AM |
| 10 | Is "a straight man engaging sexually with a man for benefit" a fair comparison to "a woman being with a man she finds repulsive for benefit"?Am I suppose to feel bad for the gatekeepers of sex? No, why should you feel bad? Just don’t throw a pity party for yourself about banging a gross woman, either. Casual sex benefits men, most people are aware of this. The not cumming 1/3 of the time is inclusive of non-casual sex. If you’re talking about just casual sex, women cum less than half the time. But lets not pretend that when the sex IS good, it’s not vastly superior to what men experience. Men can get the same kind of stacks of Os wit… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/20 01:30 AM |
| 4 | Is "a straight man engaging sexually with a man for benefit" a fair comparison to "a woman being with a man she finds repulsive for benefit"?You seem to think it’s not a fair comparison unless it’s hetero, and the OP u/GridReXX has said it’s not a fair comparison unless you’re being penetrated. Is a straight man getting pegged by a disgusting woman a fair comparison to draw with a straight woman getting fucked by a disgusting man? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/20 01:19 AM |
| 6 | Is "a straight man engaging sexually with a man for benefit" a fair comparison to "a woman being with a man she finds repulsive for benefit"?I can’t speak to the reaction of going against your sexuality or a reaction to fucking a person you find unattractive, but having had some unfortunate disgusting accidents while giving oral to both men (think choking on semen with the consistency of warm cottage cheese and having it come up your nose) and women (think clotted and decaying period blood suddenly releasing on your tongue), it’s a lot worse to have something disgusting in you than to be in something disgusting, and that’s in spite o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/20 01:14 AM |
| 9 | Is "a straight man engaging sexually with a man for benefit" a fair comparison to "a woman being with a man she finds repulsive for benefit"?I was disgusted with myself. I didn’t even nut. I faked an orgasm and bailed. You realize you’re describing ~1/3 of hetero women’s sexual encounters with men? This is not an extreme reaction, for hetero women it’s a common reaction. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/20 12:45 AM |
| 5 | Men who want independent womenThere are men like what you describe. There are also men (like my primary partner) who actually respect and value women and pitch in equally for housework and emotional labor. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/20 11:03 PM |
| 0 | 2 or 3 men per girl needs to become the standard accepted relationship in societyI’m currently with two men and one woman which results in an even gender ratio among the four of us, but I could take one for the team and go for all men 😆 Not gonna stop working though, I enjoy what I do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/20 09:01 PM |
| 1 | Are you attracted to what you’re attracted to because it’s what you like, or because you’ve been conditioned?I don’t think there’s any way to know for sure, but for me the range of personality types I’m attracted to is much more restrictive than the range of physical body types. I’m into and have been attracted to people of multiple genders, BMI ranging from 17 - 33, people with heights ranging from 5’0” to 6’1”, people of various races (I’ve been attracted to people of all races, and I’ve been sexually involved with white, east asian, south asian, and latino people), various body shapes, various hair/… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/20 08:44 PM |
| 1 | Women who call men "incels".Can you explain the logical connection here? I see how calling someone an “incel” as an insult would imply that being able to get sex is valuable, but I don’t see how it implies that sex is the only thing of value a woman can offer | /r/MGTOW | 14/11/20 12:42 AM |
| 1 | Unpopular Opinion: It’s normal, and it isn’t insecure or immature to care or dislike someone for their pastIt’s fairly normal, yes, I would guess that at least a fifth of people feel this way (based completely on anecdotal evidence). It is also insecure and immature. There are plenty of common things that are immature. Like being afraid/shy/embarrassed to talk frankly and explicitly with your partner about what you like sexually. Or being embarrassed about seeing a perfectly clean tampon. If you actually have a mental disorder, get therapy. If you have a rational concern about someone’s present/futur… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/20 09:11 AM |
| 1 | Singles of PPD, would you enter into a relationship with a genderbent version of yourself? (and vice versa) Why or why not?Sure, I’d fuck my genderbent self. I’d also fuck my non-genderbent clone. And I don’t see why my genderbent self wouldn’t want the same. I think I would get along well with myself in a (poly) relationship as well. The group sex would be phenomenal lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/20 12:19 AM |
| 1 | Examples of female celebrities would be really cool to hang out and be friends with?Chloe Kim (snowboarding) is witty, super cute, and super down-to-earth Oksana Chusovitina (gymnastics) seems chill in interviews and must have so many stories, she’s been in seven Olympics Sabrina Ionescu (basketball), Alex Morgan (soccer), Katie Ledecky (swimming)... There are a ton of chill women athletes, not all of them are hot but all of them are obviously fit. And you asked who would be fun to hang out with just for their company, so I think hotness would just be a side bonus rather than t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/20 11:42 PM |
| 1 | Examples of female celebrities would be really cool to hang out and be friends with?I think it’s interesting how few athletes have been named in this thread. But maybe female athletes just aren’t on the radar for many of you... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/20 09:55 AM |
| 5 | Q4Women: can you give examples of what you consider looksmatches?To start with, I don’t think this is important as a metric to decide who should get together. But here are some examples of pairs of people that I think are pretty even in terms of looks: 1) https://images.app.goo.gl/CatqdvWn4frUbWVQ6 2) https://images.app.goo.gl/CrGGTNXH7ed5HcNV9 3) https://images.app.goo.gl/cWwMzy1xwFJ73ttp7 4) https://images.app.goo.gl/RmpW6v1xXhGZyTen9 5) https://images.app.goo.gl/NTb6iEKu2PwNLfiU6 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/20 11:07 PM |
| 2 | Even "gender equality-supportive" women tend to prefer "benevolently sexist" men despite them being perceived as "patronizing" and "undermining"And the study is flawed because it gives the second choice to study participants rather than giving them the first choice. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/20 07:18 PM |
| 2 | Even "gender equality-supportive" women tend to prefer "benevolently sexist" men despite them being perceived as "patronizing" and "undermining"There is a difference between “egalitarian” in the sense of “not sexist” vs. the full-scale equality to everyone with no special relationships. You do not need to avoid special relationships with friends/family/partner to avoid sexism. If you compare someone with BS attitudes who has special friend/family/romantic relationships to someone otherwise identical but without BS attitudes, you get a more accurate assessment of how people feel about BS attitudes than if you compare someone with BS atti… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/20 07:17 PM |
| 4 | What would end a relationship?I mean if he had actually worked to get his grades up that would be one thing. The thing was that he wasn’t responsible, just conflict-avoidant. So he wasn’t studying harder, he was just surfing the web while his parents thought he was studying. And after two years I decided I wanted to be with someone who I would actually get to spend time with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/20 10:24 AM |
| 1 | Who among us has "settled?"“Stacey” usually means beautiful but also typically means vain and vapid. “Trad” usually means low n count but also tends to mean someone who prefers traditional gender roles, is likely religious, and (if female) probably wants to be a homemaker. I don’t have a problem with beautiful or low-n, but those features aren’t worth dealing with a vain/vapid personality or someone who’s religious, and I don’t want to have a partner whose only ambition is to be a homemaker. (I don’t think it’s wrong to b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/20 03:19 AM |
| 5 | What would end a relationship?This is a really leading question in asking specifically for “beta” traits that would make women want to leave a relationship. Every reason I have ever dumped a guy who I had a longterm relationship (longterm FWB or more serious): 1) He wouldn’t spend time with me outside of school (or have sex with me) because his parents wanted him to spend more time studying until his grades improved. (This was in high school.) 2) I found out that he had been lying to me about being single when we got togethe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/20 02:23 AM |
| 1 | What's your opinion on a man's body when it's in good shape?I have actually heard from many sources that most women find the male body to be ugly and less attractive then the female body. Is that true? No. And I’m bi lol. the male genitalia region in general Honestly I like the aesthetic appearance of a smooth hard dick more than I like the look of pussy. Women are objectively more attractive than men are. They have better hygiene, better fashion sense, better overall style, and have access to makeup. They have fancy ways of doing hair and fancy ways of … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/20 02:03 AM |
| 1 | Who among us has "settled?"Replying here because I have not settled, but I just want to call out how bogus it is that OP seems to think anyone partnered with someone who’s neither a rich Chad nor a trad Stacey must have settled. I have been asked out by a rich Chad, and that was just an awkward experience in rejection for him because he was very much not nerdy enough to be my type. And I’m bi but trad Stacey also has zero appeal, please keep me far away from all things tradcon. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/20 01:45 AM |
| 1 | Kurt Vonnegut on marriage and divorceAnd this is why I’m poly | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/20 11:03 PM |
| 1 | Do most people finish highschool being afraid to approach people they find attractive while sober?I don't see anything specific to cold approaches in the original post, but it seems like a lot of people in the comments are laser-focused on cold approach situations. A cold approach is very unlikely to work unless you're already in a social setting (like a party or bar), and often there is booze in these kinds of settings. I think the fact that cold approaches are more common after some drinking is less related to a need for liquid courage and more related to the correlation between times when… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/20 12:05 AM |
| 4 | The things I have noticed about gender roles and what is expected of menwhat would be the incentive for making "virtuous-but-false" statements as an anon online? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/20 06:42 PM |
| 3 | What makes submissive women attractive?masculine men don't want women that are dominant over them. I see that you are continuing to make assertions about the fundamental nature of how men and women want to relate to each other with no evidence to back you up. Its near impossible to find an attractive women that is equal to him in everyway. Being in an equal relationship does not mean being equal in every single way. No one is going around measuring to make certain everyone has an identical height and weight and salary and attractiven… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/20 06:16 PM |
| 3 | What makes submissive women attractive?Do you truly believe that stereotypes are made up and don't apply generally? No. But I believe that when you're talking to an individual that you should be responsive to how they represent their own experiences rather than projecting a stereotype onto them. It can be appropriate to say, "most people of this gender follow this gender role." But if you invalidate what someone has just related about themself and start a cross-examination to try to see if there's any way in which they might contradi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/20 10:03 AM |
| 4 | What makes submissive women attractive?You sent out a battery of questions at her with clear implications that you were skeptical of her initial description of her relationship and that you think balanced relationships are so rare that it was more likely she was deluded about the true nature of her own relationship than that she was actually in an equitable relationship. And now in this response you are continuing to spew stereotypes and acting like there's no problem with it as long as you sprinkle in a few caveats of how there are … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/20 08:49 AM |
| 3 | What makes submissive women attractive?yes. and wow, just looking through your comments in this thread...thanks for your implications that any woman who thinks she's dominant or equal in a relationship is either lying to herself about being dominant, unattractive, and/or doomed to be unsatisfied with the relationship. I thought we were getting somewhere in our discussion the other day, but your badgering in this thread and invalidation of someone else's experiences is pretty disrespectful and oddly reverential of tradcon gender norms… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/20 08:06 AM |
| 1 | So what male criteria for assessing female value is acceptable to women ?you’re implying here that “title dictates behavior” ie that the moral standards one is held to are dependent on that person’s place in the social hierarchy It's the same standard across the board: reciprocate what you're demanding. It doesn't have to do with social hierarchy in particular - this applies to everything from the trait of whether you've watched every movie in the MCU to the trait of whether you work out every day. The idea is that these reciprocative standards should reflect shared … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/20 07:33 AM |
| 1 | The best chance for a woman to have a successful marriage with a high status man is to be a highly educated careeristI suspect the difference is largely one of urban/rural environments. Entirely possible. And this is a divide in and of itself. I have slightly more connection to people who currently live in rural environments than people who aren't college-educated in that I am in touch with 5 people who currently live in rural areas, but they're not people I'm close to, and that's still a small part of my social network. You need to get outside of the cities and suburbs There isn't much incentive for me to do … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/10/20 10:43 PM |
| 1 | The best chance for a woman to have a successful marriage with a high status man is to be a highly educated careeristNot sure which other post you were referring to. I agree that correlation is distinct from causation, but I also think that in this particular case there are causative elements as well, most notably that people who go to college meet a lot of people at college and often develop close friendships there. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/10/20 10:12 PM |
| 1 | The best chance for a woman to have a successful marriage with a high status man is to be a highly educated careeristStill, we were relatively close There's a difference between saying that you maximize relationship potential by optimizing your career prospects vs. saying that you need a minimum level of education/career in order to have relationship options. I agree with you that pursuing an advanced degree often has little to no incremental benefit in terms of proximity, and focusing single-mindedly on career doesn't help with a relationship potential, either. But having a bachelor's degree and/or a career t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/10/20 10:09 PM |
| 1 | The best chance for a woman to have a successful marriage with a high status man is to be a highly educated careeristThe correlation is high enough that if you say educational/career developments aren't important, you are essentially also saying that proximity isn't important. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/10/20 09:28 PM |
| 1 | The best chance for a woman to have a successful marriage with a high status man is to be a highly educated careeristI am not understanding how you can separate proximity from educational/career development. Proximity naturally comes along with educational/career attainment, and without either of those proximity is very difficult to achieve unless you're from a wealthy family. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/10/20 09:26 PM |
| 1 | The best chance for a woman to have a successful marriage with a high status man is to be a highly educated careeristIf proximity isn't important, then why do people care about networking for career development? And why do people have so much more trouble making friends as adults? I personally think that proximity is one of the most important features to help start a relationship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/10/20 09:21 PM |
| 3 | The best chance for a woman to have a successful marriage with a high status man is to be a highly educated careerist...and isn’t proximity important if you’re looking for results? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/10/20 01:00 PM |
| 2 | I feel like some/most women don't understand how much advantage they have in dating.If you want to make women understand something, you need to appeal to values which women have. I don't think many women truly understand HOW unfair it is. I don't think you understand how your post comes off to someone who does not see casual sex as valuable or a goal. In response to your comments on dating apps: most women would prefer zero matches to having most matches want casual sex only, which is the most common kind of match that women get. The ability to easily get casual sex simply does… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/10/20 12:15 PM |
| 1 | "Evo psych" is badly used by redpillers to rationalize their preexistings beliefs.What do you think hentai depicts? Cartoon people and/or monsters that don't look very much like real humans. Do you need proof that fear of heights is an instinctual response constant throughout history? I would ask for proof of it if I hadn't seen proof before and if fear of heights didn't develop at a very young age. Umm, I said the exact same thing in my original comment. You said that tans hide imperfections in the original comment, but you also said that the lack or presence of a tan doesn'… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/10/20 10:38 AM |
| 0 | "Evo psych" is badly used by redpillers to rationalize their preexistings beliefs.It's more accepted for hormonally fucked up people to indulge in their crazy. Your stereotypes about LGBT people are not charming, but I don't feel that it would be productive to educate you on this. Instead, let's look at this chart of the most-searched porn term for each country and note that for many countries this is hentai: https://www.reddit.com/r/DrewDurnil/comments/ctinbz/pornhub_released_statistics_for_every_countrys/. If base attraction is unchanged by culture, why is there a discrepan… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/10/20 08:02 AM |
| 2 | Parents spend way more money on female children than male.u/Equalattractions , I scrolled through the comments and am really curious - have you bought yourself a motorcycle? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/10/20 03:12 AM |
| 1 | "Evo psych" is badly used by redpillers to rationalize their preexistings beliefs.Lol you are an excellent example of everything OP was criticizing. We say it about base instincts and sexual attraction. For which, we are exactly how we were when we were living in caves. Then why would we see culture-driven changes like the variation in women's sexual orientations by generation which someone recently posted about? If sexual attraction is so constant over time and entirely dependent on evolution, why does Gen Z have so many more bisexual and trans individuals than older generat… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/10/20 02:54 AM |
| 1 | So what male criteria for assessing female value is acceptable to women ?I'm not sure what point you're trying to make. It doesn't seem like you're arguing against anything I actually said; it sounds like you're just going off on a rant about why a high-N man is necessarily high-value whereas no N-count can make a woman valuable, and in particular high-N women are not valuable. If that's your value system, that's your value system, I am not trying to change your mind lol. I personally don't think there is an objective value you can assign to a person, it depends on w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/10/20 01:58 AM |
| 1 | Why are 30% of Gen Z women not attracted to men?That sounds like a you problem | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/10/20 01:10 AM |
| 1 | So what male criteria for assessing female value is acceptable to women ?I said: I don’t think the hypergamy hypothesis has anything to do with ethics You said: No hypergamy has nothing to do with ethics ... I don’t see where it is that we’re in disagreement on this, and I told you that my response was about ethics because i misunderstood what you were asking. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/20 07:26 PM |
| 2 | So what male criteria for assessing female value is acceptable to women ?Ok, well when you said “acceptable,” I understood that to mean “ethically acceptable” based on the fact that in the context of your post you mentioned ethics a few times. If you didn’t mean that, I guess I was answering a different question from what you intended to ask, but I’m not going to argue hypergamy with you to defend my take on what metrics are ethical to use in selecting a partner because I don’t think the hypergamy hypothesis has anything to do with ethics. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/20 07:09 PM |
| 1 | So what male criteria for assessing female value is acceptable to women ?...do you think hypergamy is ethical?? Your question asked what values are ethical to use as metrics, not what values people most commonly use as metrics. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/20 06:53 PM |
| 4 | Realistically what's the lowest you'll go in terms of a guys looks?3 and I have no regrets <3 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/20 06:47 PM |
| 2 | The polarity of gender desire. Men are working to create and sustain it, while women's actions continually reduce it.more sexual liberation would lead to more polarity and hierarchy in the sexual market sexual liberation initially was about freeing women from financial dependence on men, which would tend to make it harder for men to get sex. But the remaining elements of liberation would make it easier: better access to birth control (or abortion if necessary), destigmatization, trust that sex is pleasurable for women, etc. These should all be expected to make women more comfortable with sex and less puritanic… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/20 02:07 PM |
| 1 | The polarity of gender desire. Men are working to create and sustain it, while women's actions continually reduce it.I live in new Zealand but I've been back and forth to California Yeah, there definitely are major cultural differences across the US the relationship world has always been biased against women Ah ok ok I didn’t realize you were drawing a distinction. Though tbh throughout a lot of history the sexual market and the relationship market were essentially the same it wont make women just have sex with their looksmatch or uglier men just for the sake of it If women are having more sex overall, they st… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/20 12:53 PM |
| 1 | Q4 western feminist , what are you fighting for anymore .Assuming based on your description that you want to know about problems in the US and/or Canada. I talk and vote to address local feminist issues, and I donate to international feminist causes, but I could also put up a list of international things to fight for. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/20 12:19 PM |
| 1 | Q4 western feminist , what are you fighting for anymore .Car safety requirements are set to be appropriate for the average man (with the vast majority of men having full protection while driving), but women are on average smaller, so a significant proportion are not able to drive a car safely, which leads to a higher injury/fatality rate for similar crashes with women relative to men. The safety requirements should not be based around the average man as the average human. The draft should be banned. It’s not necessary and not just. Men should have the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/20 12:15 PM |
| 1 | The polarity of gender desire. Men are working to create and sustain it, while women's actions continually reduce it.trust me men get enough hugs and other forms of platonic physical contact from other men What country are you in? Hetero men in the US often get little to no physical contact with other men. The sexual market is becoming more and more bias against men, it always has been The sexual market has always been biased against men?? Even during time periods when women were completely financially dependent on men? As long as women are free to make their own choices and sex is more pleasurable and less st… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/20 12:02 PM |
| 1 | The polarity of gender desire. Men are working to create and sustain it, while women's actions continually reduce it.therapy and gun control wont fix the core issue This is true, we also need to normalize and support close male friendships and the idea that men should be able to receive hugs and other forms of platonic physical contact from people who they aren’t fucking And make therapy more accessible and fully covered by health insurance | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/20 11:26 AM |
| 0 | The polarity of gender desire. Men are working to create and sustain it, while women's actions continually reduce it.The biggest reason for the gender gap in suicides is that men more often use a gun, and a gun is more deadly than other methods. Enhanced gun control and reducing the stigma around therapy for men are viable ways to help with a serious problem. Forcing women to have sex with men is not a viable solution. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/20 11:01 AM |
| 1 | The polarity of gender desire. Men are working to create and sustain it, while women's actions continually reduce it.Oh, English is your second language? And yet you were aggressively insistent that you knew the definitions of “oppressive” and “looksmatch” better than I do. If you had a little humility then, I wouldn’t still be talking to you now. You can’t have it both ways. So everyone that studies psychology is manipulative? Not at all. I called out individuals who are “manipulative prettyboys” in general, I wasn’t saying that all psychology students are manipulative. I was certainly implying that you were … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/20 10:27 AM |
| 1 | The polarity of gender desire. Men are working to create and sustain it, while women's actions continually reduce it.i'm not admitting i care about physical appearance, i just said women that are objectively 6/10 are entitled to hotter men. You’re saying that a woman who is rated 6/10 in appearance is objectively a 6/10 human being. It follows that you think appearance is the only thing that matters in giving an “objective” rating of an individual. You can’t say that a rating based entirely on appearance is someone’s objective rating to determine who they should pair with and simultaneously say that you think … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/20 10:03 AM |
| 1 | The polarity of gender desire. Men are working to create and sustain it, while women's actions continually reduce it.(If you meant to say “psychology” rather than “phycology” let me revise my description from “prettyboy algae-heads” to “manipulative prettyboys” idk which you meant but it doesn’t really matter what you study, I can tell by this discussion that you have a bizarre view of the world) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/20 09:21 AM |
| 1 | The polarity of gender desire. Men are working to create and sustain it, while women's actions continually reduce it.no as in objectively defined by society eg. https://i.imgur.com/YlBqElb.png Oh so now you admit that you only care about physical appearance. And yeah I’m sure when you whine about 6’s wanting 9’s it’s because you have sent the woman’s photo through the ratings and you’ve also thoroughly rated the men she’s interested in via the same method. /s feminism is not what it used to be, and now their loudest voices are controversial and are resentful of men The loudest voices, you mean like Emma Watson… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/20 09:16 AM |
| 1 | The polarity of gender desire. Men are working to create and sustain it, while women's actions continually reduce it.you strategically ignored my employer analogy and simply stated "you don't know anything about the actual economic marketplace " without providing any good counter points or ideas. I don’t think it’s worth my time to argue against your beliefs that unqualified women dominate the workplace, women don’t work as hard, and companies routinely implement gender quotas. These are all just factually incorrect for the general work world. It’s possible you work for a company with policies like that but if… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/20 08:52 AM |
| 0 | The polarity of gender desire. Men are working to create and sustain it, while women's actions continually reduce it.objectively a 6/10 As “objectively” defined by you I’m sure would you say feminists deserve the same treatment? because they have controversial attitudes and are resentful of men? Actual feminists (myself included) have the attitude that people should have equal opportunity regardless of gender. If you’re talking about female chauvinists (who think women deserve better than men) and/or hate men, then yes, it’s fair for men to shun them. i'm humbly quite successful with women. The ones you pay wi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/20 07:45 AM |
| 0 | The polarity of gender desire. Men are working to create and sustain it, while women's actions continually reduce it.I am reading your points, I disagree with all of them, and I don’t think it’s worth my effort to talk to a man who is so deluded about the basics of the sexual marketplace and the actual economic marketplace and the definitions of words ffs “looksmatch” literally is your match in looks, not your overall match unless you think looks are the only thing that matters. The OBJECTIVE meaning of “looksmatch” is “your equal in looks,” and that’s also how people use the word, this is both a prescriptive … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/20 06:32 AM |
| 1 | The polarity of gender desire. Men are working to create and sustain it, while women's actions continually reduce it.why would she ever think she deserves a 9/10? If she can get a 9/10, either she really is a 9/10 and you’re just confused in the rankings, or she has been unfairly lucky and there will be some 9/10 woman who’s unfairly unlucky in being unable to get her match. Either way, this doesn’t seem like a problem that unfairly benefits women overall. even though we all know they don't work as hard as men. Because they dont need to. Have you ever considered that this is a controversial attitude and that b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/20 06:19 AM |
| 1 | The polarity of gender desire. Men are working to create and sustain it, while women's actions continually reduce it.You still have a lot of misconceptions but let’s just hit this one: Everyone has a right to their looks match, that's how it should be, women believe they have a right to higher quality men. Even though she's a 6/10 she believes she deserves a 9/10, yet that is not an entitlement in your eyes? She doesn’t think she has a “right“ to a 9/10. She thinks she would rather be alone (or share a 9/10) than be with someone who’s not a 9/10. If she can’t get a 9/10, she’ll eventually settle with being alo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/20 05:25 AM |
| 1 | The polarity of gender desire. Men are working to create and sustain it, while women's actions continually reduce it.A relationship is an agreement between people. If either side thinks it’s not a good deal, they can walk away. If a woman thinks it’s better to be alone than to be with someone who is her “looksmatch”? Then apparently being with that man isn’t a good deal from her perspective. Pro tip: women generally don’t care about getting a “looksmatch” | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/20 05:09 AM |
| 1 | So what male criteria for assessing female value is acceptable to women ?Ok yes, ethics are not universally agreed upon, but I was responding to the OP’s question of “what do women agree with?” Given that I’m a woman, I’m talking about my own ethics. That said, I think the core values from which I derived my statements above are fairly common in the western world. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/20 04:51 AM |
| 5 | So what male criteria for assessing female value is acceptable to women ?I have never read a gender studies textbook, and I think you have misunderstood me. Quoting my own comment above: in the case of something complementary like gender roles, meeting your own criteria means suiting your own gender role, not meeting the criteria for your partner’s gender role | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/20 04:03 AM |
| 1 | The polarity of gender desire. Men are working to create and sustain it, while women's actions continually reduce it.It would be equivalent if men ejaculated easily and forced women to try harder to make themselves cum as easily. ... this is how the world is. Men cum easily from PiV sex and women don’t cum easily from PiV sex and have greater physical risk from PiV sex. And men have defined PiV sex as just what sex is when reciprocal oral is a lot more equal in terms of both pleasure and health risk. And reciprocal oral is roughly the same amount of work for both sides. It’s not that men have to work harder to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/20 03:42 AM |
| 1 | The polarity of gender desire. Men are working to create and sustain it, while women's actions continually reduce it.All im saying is men deserve their looks match This is the crux of it. You think that men deserve to be awarded a woman simply by virtue of existing. No one deserves to be in a relationship simply by virtue of existing. Sometimes women get a relationship that way, but that doesn’t mean they have a right to it, and if they get a relationship that way, it probably won’t last, which often leaves them worse off than before. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/20 03:35 AM |
| 1 | The polarity of gender desire. Men are working to create and sustain it, while women's actions continually reduce it.You’ve said a lot of things here that are incorrect, but there’s not a lot of point in arguing through all the examples. The key thing is that oppression occurs if someone is taking control over you or something you have a right to (like your own body, or your ability to express yourself). If you don’t have a right to be with a woman, you can’t be oppressed via a woman freely choosing to not be with you. It can be an unfair situation, but there are many unfair situations which are not oppression… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/20 03:31 AM |
| 2 | So what male criteria for assessing female value is acceptable to women ?I agree with you in the context of a relationship, I could quibble that that is different from how I would define “transactional” but what you’re describing seems like a healthy and fair relationship. It’s certainly not unethical to be in a relationship with someone who meets a different set of standards than you do; what I was describing earlier in this thread as unethical is having standards that establish your role as having requirements that aren’t equivalent to your partner’s requirements. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/20 01:49 AM |
| 3 | So what male criteria for assessing female value is acceptable to women ?Are you saying that low N and high N are both more difficult for a man to achieve than for a woman to achieve? I disagree, I think that if you’re trying to keep your N low it is equally difficult for men and women to do that. I agree that if you are trying to get a high N, that’s easier for a woman to do than a man. But I don’t think it’s easier for a woman to get a low N. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/20 01:31 AM |
| 1 | The polarity of gender desire. Men are working to create and sustain it, while women's actions continually reduce it.Having difficult odds is not the same as oppressive. The lottery is rigged, but no one deserves lottery winnings, so it’s not oppressive to have it exist. If you want the chance at winning, you play the game, if you don’t want to play a rigged game, don’t. And having unequal odds for different people playing the same game is also not oppression. Is hetero sex oppressive to women just because men are more likely to orgasm? No. If a woman doesn’t like that unfairness, she should just not have sex … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/20 01:26 AM |
| 2 | So what male criteria for assessing female value is acceptable to women ?Meaning for it to be hypocritical the man would need an n count of 20 to her 10. You’re saying that is fair to say a man needs N >= 20 when a woman only needs to get >= 10 because it’s easier for a woman to get a higher N? This makes no sense, why are you saying the man should have an even more difficult task?? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/20 01:14 AM |
| 3 | So what male criteria for assessing female value is acceptable to women ?If you balance the requirements appropriately, it’s not an unfair relationship, the thing is that the more disparate the attributes are the more difficult it is to say if they’re a fair balance. Are figure and humor a fair balance? Maybe, but if you’re seeing this as a transaction how do you measure how many laughs are worth how many pounds? And especially if the features are unrelated (like figure and humor) it’s not likely that your criterion is establishing similar values. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/20 01:11 AM |
| 3 | So what male criteria for assessing female value is acceptable to women ?That’s true, having a high N count is easier for women if they are attempting to rack it up, so if you value a high N it’s fair to say something like “a man needs to have an N count of at least 10 and a woman needs an N count of at least 20” or something like that, idk what the exact numbers should be. I would say though that not having sex with anyone is equally difficult for people of any gender, so if you value a low N count you should have the same N count yourself or lower. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/20 12:56 AM |
| 3 | So what male criteria for assessing female value is acceptable to women ?I am not sure I know what you mean by “the inverse,” and I don’t understand how this relates to the question of what standards people should have for a partner. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/20 12:36 AM |
| 5 | So what male criteria for assessing female value is acceptable to women ?Do you hold your doctor to the same standards of medical expertise that you have? No, I pay my doctor to have medical expertise. That is an client relationship. If you want to pay someone to be in a sexual client relationship with you, it’s not hypocritical to have whatever standards you want. There are different ethical questions on that front besides hypocrisy, but I would consider prostitution to be a separate topic from expectations in non-client sexual relationships and don’t particularly f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/20 12:31 AM |
| 3 | So what male criteria for assessing female value is acceptable to women ?Let me copy the relevant quote from my initial comment: in the case of something complementary like gender roles, meeting your own criteria means suiting your own gender role, not meeting the criteria for your partner’s gender role | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/20 12:13 AM |
| 1 | The polarity of gender desire. Men are working to create and sustain it, while women's actions continually reduce it.No, what I’m saying is that neither men nor women “deserve” a relationship. If women would rather be alone than with someone who’s her equal, that’s her business. If a man would rather be alone than be with someone significantly below his “looksmatch,” that’s his business. If a man can’t find anyone who wants to be with him, that’s unfortunate but no one is oppressing him. If a woman can’t find anyone who wants to be with her for a LTR rather than a casual hookup, that’s also unfortunate but not… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/20 11:44 PM |
| 1 | The polarity of gender desire. Men are working to create and sustain it, while women's actions continually reduce it.Your earlier statement only flows from this if you start from the premise that a person “deserves” to be in a relationship at all. If no one deserves a relationship, no one is oppressed by lacking a relationship. What makes you think that anyone deserves to be in a relationship? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/20 11:29 PM |
| 2 | So what male criteria for assessing female value is acceptable to women ?Off the top of my head I can’t think of any specific criteria which are always unethical, but there are a lot of criteria which are usually unethical (e.g., requiring a partner who’s in the top 10% of attractiveness is usually unethical because for 90% of people it is hypocritical). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/20 11:23 PM |
| 9 | So what male criteria for assessing female value is acceptable to women ?The basic ethical principle behind not having standards you don’t live up to is that it’s a form of unjust dishonesty and hypocrisy to hold yourself to a lesser standard than you hold others. The reason that shared values/interests/styles are less controversial as metrics for selecting a partner are (a) it’s immediately apparent how they’re relevant to a relationship, (b) there isn’t consensus on which options are “better” so rejection has more of the connotation of “I think we’re not right for … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/20 11:16 PM |
| 1 | The polarity of gender desire. Men are working to create and sustain it, while women's actions continually reduce it.That adds no clarity. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/20 11:06 PM |
| 8 | Realistically what's the lowest you'll go in terms of a guys looks?I know I don’t follow consensus in rating attractiveness, but if we say 1 is the people I’d rate as bottom 10% in my general age group and 10 is top 10% in my age group, I would go as low as 3 from purely looks. So that’s 80% who look good enough that I’d consider them. Considering features that aren’t related to looks, I am only interested in my top 5% or so, maybe less than that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/20 11:02 PM |
| 6 | So what male criteria for assessing female value is acceptable to women ?Ok so neither of your examples are about sexual strategy, which I would define as “the methods you use to get a sexual and/or romantic partner.” But let’s talk about each of your examples. The draft is absolutely unfair to men. And it is unpopular with both men and women. If you look at polls, there is more support for men being drafted than support for women being drafted, but in general only about 30% of people think that anyone should have to register for a draft. The reason we still have it … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/20 10:55 PM |
| 17 | So what male criteria for assessing female value is acceptable to women ?Ethically, men and women should use shared interests, values, and communication styles as the primary criteria for finding a partner. IMO it’s also fine to use some appearance-based criteria and financial criteria as long as you hold yourself to the same standards, but that’s more controversial. If partner count and virginity are part of your values (perhaps due to religion), or if traditional gender roles (e.g., man is rich and dominant, woman is young and submissive) are part of your values, t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/20 08:43 PM |
| 5 | So what male criteria for assessing female value is acceptable to women ?TRP explicitly does NOT debate the ethics of male sexual strategy. It is an amoral forum dedicated to considerations of effectiveness. PPD often does talk about ethics, but let’s be real PPD talks a lot about the ethics of women’s sexual strategy, it is not a male forum. Technically the closest counterpart to TRP on Reddit is FDS, but realistically women are much more likely to discuss effectiveness of sexual strategies with their own real-life friends and look to beauty/sex magazines like cosmo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/20 08:16 PM |
| 25 | Realistically what's the lowest you'll go in terms of a guys looks?I don’t think this is a helpful question because people have different interpretations of what it means to be attractive. Personally, I find smoking disgusting and cleft chins very unattractive. I wouldn’t date someone who smoked or had a cleft chin regardless of other features. This might seem like a high standard, but at the same time I am also fine with (actually prefer) dating people who are between 5’2” and 5’10” (close to my own height), and I prefer dating people who are average or below … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/20 07:55 PM |
| 0 | The polarity of gender desire. Men are working to create and sustain it, while women's actions continually reduce it.um what? is this bait? Is it accurate to rephrase your comment as, “isn’t it oppressive to tell men they aren’t entitled to a romantic/sexual partner?” | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/20 07:42 PM |
| 3 | The polarity of gender desire. Men are working to create and sustain it, while women's actions continually reduce it.It’s a win either way for a woman to improve her own financial position: if she wants a high-value partner, being rich in her own right will give her more exposure to those men and more ability to pay for expensive beauty regimens (plastic surgery, skincare, manicures, tailored clothes...) that those men will find attractive; if she wants the benefits of money but doesn’t care about a partner, she can use her money how she wants. Having a job that pays well does not make a woman less desirable t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/20 07:36 PM |
| 1 | The polarity of gender desire. Men are working to create and sustain it, while women's actions continually reduce it.Unless she wants a life much more luxurious than what she can provide herself (golddigger with betabucks), most women don’t want a partner who’s better in every way, that just leads to insecurity, paranoia, and controlling behavior. What most men and women want is to be understood. It’s why you see assortative mating trends with people from similar religious traditions or ethnic heritages or hobbies or jobs pairing off. People want partners who are similar enough to themselves to understand them… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/20 07:08 PM |
| 1 | Are relationship checkups beta?I mean he has also had several girlfriends | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/20 03:18 PM |
| 1 | Let’s try a gender swap experiment in dating5’6” and 130 lb, I’m not like MMA lol but I am reasonably muscular, when I lift a guy who’s ~30-50 lbs heavier than me it looks a bit like the end of this video (skip to like 9 or 10 minutes in): https://youtu.be/6SoLRJh1Rz8 She’s taller than I am but similar level of muscle, and she was going on hard mode to lift her husband from the ground, I generally will pick up a guy who’s sitting in a chair, lying elevated on a bed, or standing, and that’s much easier | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/20 07:41 AM |
| 1 | Let’s try a gender swap experiment in datingNo, it’s the majority of men under 6 feet that I can handle, I avoid the taller men because I can’t lift that It’s not so hard to fireman carry like 180 lbs | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/20 02:40 AM |
| 1 | Let’s try a gender swap experiment in datingMaybe I am more often into men because I like when they feel a bit embarrassed just from the fact that they’re getting dominated by a woman | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/20 02:04 AM |
| 0 | Let’s try a gender swap experiment in datingI mean cis men don’t have to be “manly” lol, like in terms of celebrities think of someone with a body type like Daniel Radcliffe or James McAvoy or David Bowie I don’t know why I am more often attracted to men, but I would say that the majority of men under 6’ are small/skinny enough that I can at least pick them up and small enough that I can hold them down if I start with leverage | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/20 01:59 AM |
| 2 | Let’s try a gender swap experiment in dating1) When I say “compatibility,” I mean both that the person is happy to get dominated in bed and that we would enjoy spending time together outside of a sexual context without murdering each other, which is the only way it’s worthwhile to play a slow seduction game. I prefer to do light flirtation for at least a month before I make any direct ask just because I’m uncomfortable having sex with someone until I know them. 2) shared hobbies, shared political views, shared (lack of) religion, how subm… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/20 01:14 AM |
| 0 | Let’s try a gender swap experiment in datingOh, I’m aware I don’t have to send you anything, but it’s polite of you to add this so if you want to ask questions about my physical features (e.g., height, weight, eye color) I will do my best to answer verbally | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/20 12:38 AM |
| 1 | Let’s try a gender swap experiment in datingA cis man is a man who is not transgender. Cis is just the opposite of trans. Haha no why the fuck would I send photos of myself, I don’t want to give photos of myself to a stranger, and in particular I don’t want a stranger to be jerking off to photos of me, that would just feel violating | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/20 12:35 AM |
| 1 | Let’s try a gender swap experiment in datingI think I’d do better than the average man because (a) I am hot as fuck in both my confident manner as well as feminine physical forms of hotness (waist to hip ratio, BMI, good teeth and smile, soft skin, don’t even need to wear makeup to get attention), (b) I’m naturally a dominant personality and extremely talented at verbal flirting, (c) my oral skills blow “straight” girls’ minds (I don’t think I’m better at oral than the average lesbian, but the average lesbian is way better at oral than th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/20 12:20 AM |
| 1 | Let’s try a gender swap experiment in dating(Assuming that the transformation into a man gave me a body that’s roughly the same level of masculine attractiveness as my existing feminine body rather than just giving me a genital swap and removing the boobs... I would be a pretty short and effeminate-looking man if this transformation just did the absolute minimum physical changes, and while that wouldn’t make it impossible to date it would definitely be hard mode.) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/20 11:08 PM |
| 0 | Let’s try a gender swap experiment in datingI would be unhappy about suddenly becoming a straight man because it would wreck my existing primary relationship with a wonderful and very straight man whom I love, and it would also wreck one of my secondary relationships (with a bi man) if I became straight because I would presumably not be attracted to him anymore. Probably it wouldn’t wreck my relationship with the bi woman I’m dating, but it would be a shock for sure. Putting aside the initial cost of switching and just looking at where I … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/20 10:56 PM |
| 1 | "I know many ugly people who are married because they have a good personality"I have no interest in entertaining your black pill “looks are the only thing that matters” nonsense | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/20 07:13 AM |
| 1 | "I know many ugly people who are married because they have a good personality"I’m not saying that women who are attracted to bad people have no responsibility for it. I’m saying that being a murderer isn’t attractive in and of itself. Being famous is, and being a murderer is one way to get famous. But before he was famous no one wanted Elliot Rodger because his personality was terrible and he didn’t have anything to make up for it. In some ways it’s easier for women who’ve never met him to simp for him because they are interested in the idea of him as a famous person rath… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/20 10:15 PM |
| 1 | Are relationship checkups beta?Women can and do fuck men who are ugly, fat, and short. Consider: Ron Jeremy | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/20 08:27 PM |
| 1 | Are relationship checkups beta?That’s a non sequitur but no, I’m not transgender | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/20 08:05 PM |
| 1 | "I know many ugly people who are married because they have a good personality"Oh no, Bundy is different. He was commonly seen as charismatic (part of what let him get away with it for as long as he did), and at some point he was dating multiple women at once. So maybe some of his fan mail was just edgy but I wouldn’t be surprised if some of it was women finding him genuinely appealing. IMO attractiveness is not determined by asshole-ishness, but there’s some correlation in that both the most attractive and the least attractive people are more likely to be assholes (attrac… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/20 08:00 PM |
| 1 | Are relationship checkups beta?Ability to cook and owning your own shit should be prerequisites unless you’re bringing something else really extraordinary to the table. Making a lot of money and 11% body fat are not very important to a relationship (they can inflate SMV but not RMV unless you’re looking for a gold digger). A man who brags about his sexual prowess by saying he has a “tight dick game” has no idea how to actually please a woman 75% of the time...honey, your dick isn’t what’s going to make her cum unless she’s on… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/20 07:17 PM |
| 1 | "I know many ugly people who are married because they have a good personality"Based on the fact that no one wanted to fuck him while he was alive I think we can surmise that he wasn’t an alpha. It wouldn’t shock me if girls who simped for him after he died were more trying to look edgy than actually attracted to him. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/20 05:59 PM |
| 2 | "I know many ugly people who are married because they have a good personality"All assholes are alphas, but not all alphas are assholes. Lol in what world are all assholes alphas Are all of these alphas? elliot rodger your pet cat every target of a story on r/PettyRevenge | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/20 10:54 PM |
| 1 | Q4Women: What makes you sexually attracted to a man?When he does something dextrous with his hands (playing a musical instrument, typing quickly) and does it well. Also if he uses his mouth well (e.g., licks every last bit of jello out of a jello shot) or if he strains his voice a little high-pitched or breathy or if he wears tight pants that show off a nicely-shaped ass. Sometimes if he does something showy like if he uses a witty turn of phrase or dances fluidly, but I don’t think that’s because those kinds of showy actions make me view him as … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/20 07:30 PM |
| 3 | How do women treat their casual sexual partners better then their bfs?There are levels of liking an act: it can be an act that you need in order to feel fulfilled, an act you enjoy, an act you don’t care one way or the other about, an act you find tedious/tiring, or an act you find traumatizing. There are levels of knowledge about an act: you could know exactly how you feel about it, you could have some idea (maybe even some experience) but not be sure, or you could have no idea how much you’ll like/dislike it. You should always avoid acts that either of you know … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/20 11:36 PM |
| 0 | How do women treat their casual sexual partners better then their bfs?If you had a horrible coworker who verbally abused you until you ended up covering for them last-minute in spite of not wanting to, should every one of your future coworkers expect you to cover for them last-minute and just sit like a doormat accepting verbal abuse? If you generally don’t like baked potatoes except that your cousin made a baked potato recipe that was more cheese than potato which you actually enjoyed, should you be expected to eat the very normal non-cheesy baked potatoes your s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/20 11:16 PM |
| 2 | How do women treat their casual sexual partners better then their bfs?It’s irrelevant whether your partner did a particular act with someone else. If they don’t want it now, it shouldn’t happen. If you don’t like that, don’t be in a relationship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/20 11:08 PM |
| 3 | How do women treat their casual sexual partners better then their bfs?Nah it’s that either person should be able to say no to anything. If one person has a much more restrictive set of acts they’re interested in, it could look like that person is getting special treatment, but it’s symmetric: either person can say no at any time. If there’s nothing that both parties enjoy, they just shouldn’t have sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/20 11:06 PM |
| 16 | “Donor 9623" fathers 36 children, parents later realize his bio was a lie.thinking these little guys are for sale, going going, gone Surrogates are more likely to have the mindset of "I'm helping someone build their own family, and the money makes it worth the discomfort and risk" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/20 08:11 AM |
| 1 | Weekly Community Chat Megathread (06 September 2020)it can be said that during that year, 100% of women in this sample had a long-term relationship, whereas only 50% of the men did. This is a twisted definition of being "in a LTR." On average, hetero women and men spend the same amount of time in a LTR, maybe women have a lower variance of time spent in a LTR but that doesn't mean women on average have it better. There's no reason to think that for the typical person it feels more than twice as lonely to be unpartnered for a year vs. to be unpart… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/20 08:07 AM |
| 1 | The 2008 financial crisis is the definitive reason why dating is the way it is today, as well as the existence of the manosphere.I love to subvert gender roles and find that traditional gender roles have no place in my life | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/20 10:12 AM |
| 1 | Weekly Community Chat Megathread (06 September 2020)Women and men are equally likely to be in a LTR, so any difference is due to discrepancies in casual sex. For the typical woman, casual sex is about as easy to get as sex with a prostitute is for the average man - it’s readily available, but there are risks and costs. And for most women, casual sex isn’t any better at alleviating loneliness than sex with a prostitute is for the average man. Having sex with a stranger can be an incredibly lonely experience because it’s physical intimacy without e… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/20 01:33 AM |
| 1 | Weekly Community Chat Megathread (06 September 2020)“Sexless” is not a synonym for “lonely,” and that was precisely my point. Having a sexual partner who is not a romantic partner and not a close friend doesn’t alleviate loneliness, and men are just as likely as women to be in a romantic relationship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/20 01:15 AM |
| 1 | Discussion: Do people put enough effort into targeting the types of people they want as partners?An average man will enter a relationship with a thin but otherwise unpleasant woman, but he won’t stay in the relationship for very long or get married | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/20 06:02 PM |
| 1 | Weekly Community Chat Megathread (06 September 2020)At any given time, the same number of heterosexual men and heterosexual women are in relationships, and unless you’re in China there isn't a significant difference in the total number of men vs. the total number of women. Why do you say that women have an easier time finding a relationship than men do? Are you saying that women gatekeep both sex and relationships? Because if that’s your perspective, that isn’t objective by any means. The commonly accepted take in this sub is that men gatekeep re… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/20 05:35 PM |
| 4 | Weekly Community Chat Megathread (06 September 2020)This disparity is mostly about the fact that men are more likely to rely on a romantic partner for their main or only intimate social connection whereas women are more likely to have intimate platonic friendships. The disparity in loneliness isn’t because of a dating disparity, it’s because men rely on dating to avoid loneliness and women don’t. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/20 09:15 AM |
| 3 | Does moving in together spell doom for a relationship?Comfort and familiarity do affect my sex drive, in a positive way. Polyamory for me doesn't have to do with novelty, it has to do with the fact that my primary partner has a lower libido than I do and the fact that I enjoy group sex. One of the main reasons we started poly was because the libido mismatch became more pronounced as I became more comfortable. When I first started dating my primary partner, he wanted sex once a week and I would have preferred more but was largely happy with that. Af… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/20 06:21 PM |
| 9 | Does moving in together spell doom for a relationship?I require comfort and familiarity to have a sex drive, I have zero interest in strangers regardless of how hot they are | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/20 04:56 AM |
| 1 | What exactly is toxic masculinity?No, I'm not arguing that men are as neurotic as women. As I said, Statistically, it's true that women on average have higher levels of neuroticism than men. I'm arguing that it's very difficult to unpack how much of that difference in performed neuroticism is biological, how much is environmental/cultural (which is a true difference but one we should attempt to address rather than accept, like it's true that people who grow up malnourished end up shorter than people who have adequate nutrition b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/09/20 03:22 AM |
| 1 | What exactly is toxic masculinity?I think the minority you refer to will mostly be filled with those who aren't neurotypical e.g. ASPD types and those with a lot of repressed childhood trauma Maybe, but I don't think they should be ignored when they are a substantial portion of the population, for example a very large minority of men were at some point victims of childhood abuse. Even if you assume the stats & studies compiled on this page are exaggerated by a factor of 2, that's still a lot of men, and this page is only talking… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/09/20 02:58 AM |
| 1 | What exactly is toxic masculinity?we just don't have the same neurotic tendencies as women do This is an entirely separate can of worms. Statistically, it's true that women on average have higher levels of neuroticism than men. In practice, research is mixed on whether this is based on true innate differences between men and women, caused by differences in levels of environmental stresses, due to men being underdiagnosed with neuroses and/or refusing to acknowledge them, or some combination of these factors. If there's a signifi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/09/20 02:35 AM |
| 1 | What exactly is toxic masculinity?Most men do! And I think that's healthy. But based on personal experience I think it's a not-insignificant minority of men who abide by this trope (maybe ~10%), and I think a majority of men feel pressured by this trope and/or feel shame when they don't abide by it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/09/20 02:27 AM |
| 1 | What exactly is toxic masculinity?I don't think it's helpful to deal with extremes like this. I think it's relevant to deal with "extremes" like this when they affect a substantial portion of the population. I don't know where the cutoff for this should be, but I think based on personal experience it's at least 10% of men who believe that even in the company of people they trust it's only acceptable to display emotion when that emotion is anger or on rare occasions when the emotion is very extreme, like maybe a few times per a y… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/09/20 02:23 AM |
| 1 | What exactly is toxic masculinity?The culture does not tell you not to display emotion to people you trust. Arguable. The culture feminists typically describe as "toxic masculinity" tells men it's that even in the company of people you trust it's only acceptable to display emotion when that emotion is anger or on rare occasions when the emotion is very extreme. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/09/20 02:19 AM |
| 1 | What exactly is toxic masculinity?This is the problem when you ignore the philosophy behind stoicism. My point is that what people refer to as "stoicism" in common parlance is very disconnected from what the philosophy of Stoicism is, and I have already once told you to stop using the argument of "that's not really stoicism" when we are both well aware that most modern people who describe themselves as "stoic" have never read anything about the philosophy of Stoicism and do not practice anything remotely similar to that original… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/09/20 02:16 AM |
| 1 | What exactly is toxic masculinity?I agree my summary is very limited, but that's because I'm not going to write a book here and Stoicism is a rich philosophy with enough historical context to write many books about it. I do not agree that "a masculine archetype" is a better description of stoicism than what I gave, but I don't see a continued purpose to arguing with you about the definition of Stoicism as a philosophy because on the whole I think we both have a positive view of Stoicism as a philosophy, and I don't think it's va… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/09/20 02:08 AM |
| 1 | What exactly is toxic masculinity?Stoicism the philosophy advocates for behavior closer to Buddhist-style meditation and mindfulness training than what people in common parlance call stoicism. I don't know where you live, but in most parts of the western world this is not considered masculine. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/09/20 01:45 AM |
| 1 | What exactly is toxic masculinity?IMO it is not harmful to recognize that there is a time and a place to display feelings, but it is harmful to practice stoic behavior as a default in intimate partner relationships or with close friends, because the act of hiding your emotions does not actually stop you from feeling those emotions, and communications break down when there is a mismatched understanding of the emotional situation. For example, a friend could think he is playfully teasing you while he's actually rubbing salt in the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/09/20 01:42 AM |
| -1 | What exactly is toxic masculinity?You clearly have no clue what stoicism is. There is a difference between stoicism (enduring hardship without displaying your feelings) and the philosophy of Stoicism. It's possible to have two very different meanings for the same word, in the way that the word "barracuda" can either refer to a predatory fish or to a 70s song. It's clear that you are talking about Stoicism the philosophy (which is not necessarily harmful but also not generally considered masculine by mainstream modern society) wh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/09/20 01:12 AM |
| 2 | Date bills should always be split equallySo I definitely don't want him to pay if I'm uninterested, but I also don't want him to pay if I am interested because it will make me feel a pressure to put his wants above my own, and I don't enjoy that relationship dynamic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/09/20 06:32 AM |
| 2 | Date bills should always be split equallyEven if I want to see him again, I don't want to feel obligated to cater to his desires for what a date should involve or pressured to have sex before I'm ready or pressured towards sex acts I don't prefer. I don't need a lame excuse to meet up again, if I like someone I am comfortable pursuing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/09/20 06:30 AM |
| 1 | Date bills should always be split equallyBecause I'm extremely confident, hot, intelligent in male-dominated areas of study, don't take BS, and do not hide the fact that I enjoy pegging men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/09/20 06:26 AM |
| 9 | [Q4Women] Among those of you who have kids (or want some in the future), would you object to your son regularly visiting/dating prostitutes?I don't have kids yet but yes, I would have issues, because it's expensive and risky and not an investment. And if he felt he had to resort to seeing prostitutes to get either human/female interaction or sex, I would feel like I had failed at teaching him social skills and/or helping him become an interesting and engaging person. IMO people who pay for prostitutes are almost always either desperate, lazy, and/or emotionally damaged, and I'd be upset about having a son with any of those qualities… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/09/20 06:19 AM |
| 1 | Date bills should always be split equallyI don't think it's wrong for men to pay for their dates if they have similar motives to my motives for paying, but I would never let a date pay for me. And if a man feels resentful or obligated to pay I can't help but think that's an unstable and unpleasant dynamic to have in a relationship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/09/20 05:58 AM |
| 2 | Date bills should always be split equallyI'm an upper-class/upper-middle-class socialist and don't always date in my class, it gives me great enjoyment and political fulfillment to buy gifts and pay for dates that ik aren't in their budget but are things they'd enjoy. And as a domme it definitely enhances my feeling of being in control when I pay, and that's a turn on. I love getting men flustered. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/09/20 05:53 AM |
| 0 | Date bills should always be split equallydip into her wallet causes her vagina to transform into the Sahara I don't really take my boy out on dates but buying him sex toys and cute clothes is definitely a turn on, or putting together care packages for him | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/09/20 05:40 AM |
| 2 | Date bills should always be split equallyI do not appreciate it, especially if it's a first date. Having someone else pay for me would make me feel indebted. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/09/20 05:30 AM |
| 1 | Date bills should always be split equallyTbh men are going to find me intimidating regardless | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/09/20 05:28 AM |
| 2 | These "Strategies" and "Pills" need to stop because they will turn people into abusers...did you think OP was a woman? Because he stated his age and gender in the post lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/09/20 05:15 AM |
| 8 | These "Strategies" and "Pills" need to stop because they will turn people into abusersThe vast majority of humans act with a tit for tat strategy, responding to treat you similarly to how you treat them. So if women are universally unpleasant to you...it says more about how you treat women than it says about women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/09/20 04:59 AM |
| 1 | Which has a greater impact on the sexuality and general expectations of a girl - her first *sexual* partner, or her first sex partner?Neither impacted my sexuality or expectations of a partner, though both had other impacts on me. Overall, I would say the first sex partner had more of an impact on my growth as a person than the first sexual partner, probably because I spent more time with the sex partner and had a close bond with her, whereas I didn't have a close relationship with my first sexual partner and dumped him after a few months. But I haven't had any partner who has had a strong impact on my approach to sex or expec… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/09/20 10:35 PM |
| 15 | Online Dating has Changed Approaching and Women's Standards "in Real Life"1) the advice is mostly coming from people who have already locked down a LTR or who have found a consistent method for pulling short term hookups IRL, and these people tend to be older and assume that what works for them should work for everyone. They do not consider that the people asking for help are generally a younger generation where OLD is a bigger part of the market. The difference between the market for age 27-35 vs the market for age 18 - 24 is huge. 2) you can more easily use the adva… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/09/20 04:42 PM |
| 3 | Q4 Men + Women: Are sluts and manwhores still looked down uponime, yes, women who sleep with a large number of men are still looked down on, regardless of ethics. However, if it’s unethical (e.g., especially cheating, but also sleeping with a friend’s ex or sleeping with a friend’s crush) the vitriol gets worse. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/20 10:06 PM |
| 3 | An experiment in hypergamy/polygamy theoryI have never met anyone who I think would be a better fit for me, and the longer we live and grow together the more difficult it will become to find anyone who fits me as well, because I place a high value on knowledge of each other and comfort with each other and how we’ve influenced each other’s values and perspectives. There are definitely people who are more compatible on one dimension or who have more wealth/status/skills/looks (tbh I know people who have more of all of those at once than m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/20 09:02 PM |
| 2 | How will the dating market change after the pandemic?You’re looking at a very different statistic, the number of hospitalizations per total population. The stat I cited was hospitalization rate per infection, and the proximate source was Vox but the ultimate source was CDC data. A more relevant criticism of the source is that it’s from March, when the US was not doing as much testing, so the number of hospitalizations per infection may be inflated by lack of tests for asymptomatic individuals. Your source is also out of date and indirect though. I… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/20 07:50 PM |
| 2 | How will the dating market change after the pandemic?You are more likely to die in a car accident this week than from Covid This is because the average person gets in a car multiple times every day whereas less than 2% of people have ever been infected with Covid. If you get Covid, the chance of death is significantly higher than the chance of death from spending a day driving, even for people in the 20-30 year age range. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/20 06:47 PM |
| 2 | How will the dating market change after the pandemic?In the 20-35 age range, about 15% of cases require hospitalization (https://www.vox.com/2020/3/23/21190033/coronavirus-covid-19-deaths-by-age). I don’t know the stats on serious illness that doesn’t require hospitalization (e.g., coughing and nausea for a few weeks), but that’s been the experience of 2/3 of the 20-35-year-olds I know who tested positive, and I would be very surprised if serious-but-not-worth-hospitalization symptoms were less than 1/3 of cases in young adults. Edit: thanks to u/… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/20 06:38 PM |
| 0 | Women Are As Entitled As MenCase 1: This is male entitlement. The man is asking for the woman’s time and attention when he has not contributed his own effort. When you ask someone to give you something, it is appropriate to give something in return. That’s the responsibility of the person making the ask. Unfortunate that that’s usually the man but that’s the law of supply and demand. Case 2: In the PUA world, the man has to be entertaining and vibrant because he is trying to deceive the woman into giving him something she … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/20 07:06 AM |
| 7 | How will the dating market change after the pandemic?It isn’t very dangerous to most young people (though still extremely unpleasant, it’s not fun to be coughing and on bed rest for weeks), but if I were dating I would use it as a morality filter. Someone young, healthy, and not wearing masks or socially distancing? that’s the kind of selfish behavior I would steer clear of. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/20 06:00 AM |
| 1 | Do you want to be loved for your abilities, accomplishments, and achievements by someone you're dating?Your question is built on a false separation. It’s not “looks and personality” vs. “status/abilities/accomplishments,” it’s looks vs. personality vs. status/abilities/accomplishments. Regardless of gender, most people want to be loved for personality, and sometimes people of any gender are primarily loved for personality, and people of any gender complain about personality not being the primary component of love. It’s not apparent to me that there’s a gender imbalance in how much people want per… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/20 01:35 AM |
| 1 | What is your definition of cheating?Cheating is violating the agreements of your relationship. There is no objective line, it depends on what you agree to, and it’s important to discuss this with a partner near the beginning of the relationship and keep the conversation going throughout the relationship. If you’re in an open marriage, maybe it’s cheating to spend the night sleeping over with someone else but perfectly fine to have sex. If you’re in a closed non-monogamous relationship maybe it’s fine to have sex with one or two pe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/20 01:03 AM |
| 1 | Q4Women: Generally speaking, How good have men been at picking up your signal/hints?I almost always turn down people who try to make the first move on me. I don't feel comfortable unless we're moving on my timeline and I've intentionally selected the person; I HATE when a stranger hits on me regardless of looks, and I won't give someone a chance unless I already actively wanted them before they asked. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/20 05:40 PM |
| 2 | Q4Women: Generally speaking, How good have men been at picking up your signal/hints?1) greater than 95% of the time because I'm very direct and will make the first move if I actually want the person 2) I start with eye contact and smiling while talking plus teasing, then after a few conversations I test out some light physical contact (usually I touch the shoulder or forearm or hair) to see the reaction, then if I still like the person after enough interactions that I feel like we're friends and have received positive responses to the physical contact I directly ask. If I get i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/20 05:34 PM |
| 2 | Q4Women How much does penis size matter to you?I like anything between small and average (or no dick at all is fine too, I'm bisexual). No dick is too small, because regardless i expect my partner to get me off with hands/mouth. If it gets too long or girthy, I'm not a fan of that though, I'll still peg guys who have particularly large dicks but i won't let them penetrate me because I don't want that pain. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/20 07:20 AM |
| 2 | Why do some men say that women are complex/ they can’t understand women, yet they also say ‘all girls are the same’?I get that you didn't join with the express goal of studying women's behavior, and therefore it makes sense that you haven't selected a truly random sample. What I'm saying is that given that you don't have a random sample, you would be wise to avoid making generalizations about all women based on your observations of women you regularly interact with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/20 07:07 AM |
| 1 | Why do some men say that women are complex/ they can’t understand women, yet they also say ‘all girls are the same’?Ok then browse the many studies cited in Wikipedia, none of which show women cheating at a higher rate than men: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infidelity I think citation number 16 is the most relevant to the demographic you're interested in, it's 17-35 year olds grouped by gender and by whether they're "dating" vs. "cohabiting" vs. "married." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/20 12:00 AM |
| 1 | Why do some men say that women are complex/ they can’t understand women, yet they also say ‘all girls are the same’?Ok, so if cheating is the wrong metric for age 20 - 35 and the cheating rates of older generations aren't a reliable way to estimate hypergamy for the Gen Z/Millennial crowd, what do you propose as a metric? I personally think that the cheating rates for the younger age cohorts are a reasonable metric and more reliable as evidence than your personal experiences. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/20 11:06 PM |
| 1 | Why do some men say that women are complex/ they can’t understand women, yet they also say ‘all girls are the same’?lmao | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/20 10:59 PM |
| 1 | Why do some men say that women are complex/ they can’t understand women, yet they also say ‘all girls are the same’?In this age range, the study I linked indicates that cheating is fairly rare and close to equally rare among men and women | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/20 10:47 PM |
| 1 | Why do some men say that women are complex/ they can’t understand women, yet they also say ‘all girls are the same’?The youngest cohort in the study is the only cohort where men cheat less than women, and within that cohort the rates of cheating only differ by one percentage point, and it’s a minority. You’re saying that something which is 11% in young women and 10% in young men is “rare” among men and “generalized” across women? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/20 10:45 PM |
| 1 | Why do some men say that women are complex/ they can’t understand women, yet they also say ‘all girls are the same’?So what you’re saying is that if I had been abused and condescended to throughout my childhood I would be more susceptible to and welcoming of abuse as an adult. Yeah that checks out but it says nothing about what’s “natural.” You’re describing childhood conditioning. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/20 10:39 PM |
| 1 | Why do some men say that women are complex/ they can’t understand women, yet they also say ‘all girls are the same’?https://ifstudies.org/blog/who-cheats-more-the-demographics-of-cheating-in-america | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/20 10:19 PM |
| 0 | Why do some men say that women are complex/ they can’t understand women, yet they also say ‘all girls are the same’?By that line of thought, the only men who are “man enough” for me are men who would forcibly kidnap and abuse/torture/drug me. I have no naturally subservient frame. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/20 10:16 PM |
| 1 | Why do some men say that women are complex/ they can’t understand women, yet they also say ‘all girls are the same’?Hi I’m a woman who is turned off by ripped men and most attracted to people who are my height (which isn’t tall), and my female friends never agree on which faces are attractive. Additionally I find “a mountain of money” no more attractive than “not in debt.” | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/20 10:12 PM |
| 2 | Why do some men say that women are complex/ they can’t understand women, yet they also say ‘all girls are the same’?Being fans of a group that doesn’t stick to one genre entirely and has members with different personalities doesn’t negate any of what I said above. For example, you’re going to see notable differences between fans of Maroon 5 vs. fans of Pentatonix. And again, the kinds of fans who are active and know the personalities of the group members are going to be different from the kinds of casual fans who just like the most popular songs. Additionally, I would be surprised if your sample is a random s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/20 09:48 PM |
| 1 | Why do some men say that women are complex/ they can’t understand women, yet they also say ‘all girls are the same’?Also as an example, if all your female acquaintances were fans of King Princess, I wouldn’t be surprised if more than half of them were queer. This is definitely not representative of the overall population. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/20 08:37 PM |
| 1 | Why do some men say that women are complex/ they can’t understand women, yet they also say ‘all girls are the same’?Being fans of a particular musical artist and presumably in some interest group for this artist and/or showing up to concerts for this artist is already a major element of non-randomness. For example the kinds of people who are fans of Tim McGraw are different from fans of Yo-Yo Ma or Leslie Odom Jr, and the kinds of people who casually enjoy music with occasional concerts are different from kinds of people who are active fans. This is not a random sample. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/20 08:33 PM |
| 1 | Why do some men say that women are complex/ they can’t understand women, yet they also say ‘all girls are the same’?For generalizing about a population based on a sample, the size of your sample is irrelevant unless it’s a random sample. I would be astonished if the set of women you know is a random sample. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/20 07:33 PM |
| 1 | Q4 married/LTR members of PPD: how would your relationship change if you suddenly came into success, fame, and/or money?Quite happy in my relationships, and I’ve been with my primary partner for 5 years. Secondary partnerships are 2 years and 1 year, respectively. Probably the main change would be that I’d buy more things for my partners than I already do (I currently have a higher salary than any of my partners and so will sometimes treat one of them to a random gift or will pay for my primary partner to come on a vacation with me that he otherwise wouldn’t feel comfortable budgeting for). Might also involve pay… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/20 07:44 AM |
| 1 | There is NO reason for your LTR to refuse to perform a sexual act with you that she performed on another man beforeThen maybe you should have written a more nuanced title than “there is NO reason for your LTR to refuse...” Maybe instead you should have said something like “there are only a few rare specific reasons for your LTR to refuse...” | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/20 06:36 AM |
| 1 | There is NO reason for your LTR to refuse to perform a sexual act with you that she performed on another man beforeOr it might be personal and still be a consistent and reasonable rule. I won’t trust a guy with giving me anal until after he’s let me peg him. If he refuses to be pegged, I respect that but also will not accept his dick in my ass. This rule has nothing to do with love and everything to do with my belief that being on the receiving end of anal gives you a unique perspective of the level of vulnerability and trust involved and more empathy about the need to be gentle. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/20 01:32 AM |
| 1 | There is NO reason for your LTR to refuse to perform a sexual act with you that she performed on another man beforeSeparately lol if you’re a player with multiple baby mamas, you’re the man that doesn’t give a shit about her, let’s be real, women should not trust you | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/20 01:21 AM |
| 1 | There is NO reason for your LTR to refuse to perform a sexual act with you that she performed on another man beforeI’m telling you this isn’t about love or how much you mean to her, it’s about her experiences and how she’s developed as a person. If she was a virgin before her first bf and tried everything with him once and then will only do the acts she liked with later bfs, it doesn’t mean she loved him more, it just means she learned she had sexual preferences. If she was willing to do anal switching into vaginal until she realized it’s a recipe to get a UTI, that has nothing to do with how much she loves … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/20 01:17 AM |
| 1 | There is NO reason for your LTR to refuse to perform a sexual act with you that she performed on another man beforeIf she did it before it doesn’t mean she did it before with full awareness of what the experience would be like. There’s a lot of misinformation out there. If you had a Muslim friend who once bought a BLT thinking it was going to be a baked potato with lettuce and tomato and then only found out after purchasing that it was a bacon-lettuce-tomato sandwich, you wouldn’t force them to keep trying BLTs for lunch at every restaurant. After ordering the sandwich once, they learned something new which … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/20 10:39 PM |
| 1 | There is NO reason for your LTR to refuse to perform a sexual act with you that she performed on another man beforePatience. Start working the size up slowly over the course of several weeks (maybe longer) using butt plugs that are worn for hours at a time to gradually stretch. Don’t be pushy about backing down to a lower size if it’s not a great day for a big size, listen to your partner, use a lot of lube, go slowly, don’t push farther in unless your partner is relaxed Edit to add: do NOT start with your dick unless you have a micropenis | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/20 09:44 PM |
| 1 | There is NO reason for your LTR to refuse to perform a sexual act with you that she performed on another man beforeIf you would never take a dildo up your ass how tf do you rationalize feeling entitled to fuck women anally. Anal is a better experience for men with prostates than for women without prostates | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/20 09:38 PM |
| 2 | There is NO reason for your LTR to refuse to perform a sexual act with you that she performed on another man beforeThere are many things which I would hate even done with someone I love. For example, I would hate to be mugged while walking on the street with someone I love, and I would hate to be in a trench full of mustard gas with someone I love. Being with someone you care about doesn’t magically make every activity fun and wonderful. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/20 09:34 PM |
| 3 | Physically, what is your type and how easily have you been able to get into STR/LTR with those men?I recognize that the BMI range I gave includes unhealthy levels on both sides, I’m just saying that there is some “super unhealthy” limit at which I’m no longer attracted. I am still attracted to people who are in unhealthy weight ranges, though certainly I would support a partner who was an unhealthy weight to try to get to a healthier level. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/20 09:28 PM |
| 1 | Have you ever been cheated on?I’m a woman, I’ve never been cheated on or cheated on my partner but have been in consensually non-monogamous relationships. Also I was unwittingly a party to cheating twice (once with a guy who told me he had already broken up with his gf but hadn’t, once with a woman who said her bf was fine with it but it turned out he was not fine with it). These two incidents made me more cautious about checking in to make sure everyone relevant is on board, but neither incident caused me to shift my percep… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/20 09:21 PM |
| 2 | Physically, what is your type and how easily have you been able to get into STR/LTR with those men?Overall though it’s much more difficult for me to find the non-physical features I care about than the physical | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/20 09:04 PM |
| 2 | Physically, what is your type and how easily have you been able to get into STR/LTR with those men?And I have had no trouble at all securing commitment from people I’ve liked for STR or LTR. I don’t have a 100% success rate in pulling the people I want, but I’ve never had trouble keeping commitment from someone I was with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/20 09:03 PM |
| 3 | Physically, what is your type and how easily have you been able to get into STR/LTR with those men?In roughly the range of 5’ to 6’ with 5’3” to 5’9” being ideal (I’m 5’6” and am fine with taller or shorter than me but i prefer to not have a huge height discrepancy), not super unhealthily fat or skinny (rule of thumb I’m good with BMI between about 17 and 35), not having too much muscle (the bulging body builder look is a turn off for me), not having a cleft chin, having an ass that isn’t completely flat, having long fingers and neatly trimmed fingernails, having clear skin, having thick/dark… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/20 08:59 PM |
| 1 | There is NO reason for your LTR to refuse to perform a sexual act with you that she performed on another man beforeAnal should not hurt if you’re gentle and careful and gradual. I have used very large dildos on partners and have never hurt anyone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/20 08:21 PM |
| 1 | There is NO reason for your LTR to refuse to perform a sexual act with you that she performed on another man beforeOh are you saying you let one girl bite you ass but future partners you wouldn’t allow it? Hmmmm | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/20 08:19 PM |
| 1 | There is NO reason for your LTR to refuse to perform a sexual act with you that she performed on another man beforeOh are you saying you let one girl bite you ass but you wouldn’t let future partners do that? Hmmmmm | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/20 08:17 PM |
| 1 | There is NO reason for your LTR to refuse to perform a sexual act with you that she performed on another man beforeIf you’re the kind of partner who would enjoy something that you know your partner is hating or even being harmed by, you’re the kind of partner who would do her a favor by leaving. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/20 08:07 PM |
| 1 | There is NO reason for your LTR to refuse to perform a sexual act with you that she performed on another man beforeYou KNOW she did it with someone else before even if she says she never did? It’s true that people lie sometimes, but it’s also true that not all women have done all mainstream-rough/degrading sex acts. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/20 07:54 PM |
| 2 | There is NO reason for your LTR to refuse to perform a sexual act with you that she performed on another man beforegood to know that if you ever medically need a colonoscopy and consent to it, from then on any partner you have should feel entitled to shove things up your ass | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/20 07:43 PM |
| 2 | There is NO reason for your LTR to refuse to perform a sexual act with you that she performed on another man beforeSame. Continuous dialogue is so important especially with kinky sex - even when there’s an act my sub likes in general, I’m not going to force it at a time when he is not physically or mentally into it, I’d rather stop than hurt him. Love isn’t about hurting yourself for your partner, it’s about respecting your partner’s limits and needs. An attitude like what Sir_manalot describes would be a huge red flag to me | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/20 07:29 PM |
| 1 | Dread is a necessity because women are "walking, talking," dread gameAgree that anxiety is not work. Neither is obliviousness. I wasn’t saying that anxiety is work. Assertiveness is work for people who are not naturally assertive, and empathy is work for people who are not naturally empathetic. Socially oblivious women are not coddled any more than introvert men are. Socially inept women are ostracized or thought of as mean. If it’s a double standard, it’s a symmetric double standard. I think men and women should be good at asserting and empathizing to be mature … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/20 04:31 AM |
| 1 | Dread is a necessity because women are "walking, talking," dread gameAnd if you’re really entrenched in the gender stereotypes and think that men shouldn’t be responsible for emotional awareness because the stereotype is it’s harder for men, then it’s only consistent to think that women shouldn’t be responsible for assertiveness because the stereotype is it’s harder for women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/20 02:48 AM |
| 1 | Dread is a necessity because women are "walking, talking," dread gameCommunicating what you need is a kind of emotional labor that stereotypically men are better at. Paying attention to recognize what others need is a kind of emotional labor that stereotypically women are better at. In reality, men and women are all capable of high degrees of success in both kinds of emotional labor unless they’re autistic. If you’re offended by this word choice, we can call it something different from “emotional labor,” but both should be common for men and women. I call failure… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/20 02:35 AM |
| 1 | Dread is a necessity because women are "walking, talking," dread game...it sounds to me like you have a double standard that women should be able to guess what men want/need with communication just being a courtesy to convey what she ought to already realize, but men shouldn’t be expected to understand the emotional state of a woman unless she communicates bluntly. IMO both men and women should be expected to try to be aware of their partner’s needs (even though men are not socialized to do this kind of emotional labor), and both men and women should be expected … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/20 02:13 AM |
| 1 | Dread is a necessity because women are "walking, talking," dread gameJust going to swap that last sentence out slightly: “Ignoring someone who hurts you isn’t abuse, it’s self-protection” IMO both of these reactions are unproductive and immature, but I really fail to see how the stereotypical situation of a woman ignoring a man is any worse than the stereotypical situation of a man ignoring a woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/20 01:52 AM |
| 1 | Dread is a necessity because women are "walking, talking," dread gameHow is failing to communicate that you’ve been offended and withdrawing affection as a result of being offended different or worse from failing to communicate that you’re annoyed and withdrawing affection as a result of being annoyed? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/20 01:47 AM |
| 1 | Dread is a necessity because women are "walking, talking," dread gameOk, with those two examples I am now seeing the distinction you’re drawing. However, I still don’t see how the silent treatment is more likely to come from women? The example you gave of the silent treatment was a RP man using the silent treatment tactic. Overall, I don’t have the sense that women are more likely to do this emotionally cold push/pull technique. RP men and gold digger women use it intentionally to get sex or money, BP men and BP women tend to do it more instinctively when they’re… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/20 01:22 AM |
| 1 | Dread is a necessity because women are "walking, talking," dread gameFundamentally almost every relationship conflict is either a communication breakdown or an inability on both sides to compromise. Applying labels of “escape reaction” vs. “emotional extortion” is about as meaningless as the distinction of “freedom fighter” vs. “terrorist” in that the only thing a positive label means is that you think their demands are reasonable. Consider a few situations: A man sees his girlfriend compliment her attractive male coworker’s appearance. She thinks this is harmles… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/20 12:45 AM |
| 1 | Q4ALL：Does blocking/ghosting make you seem more attractive?I'm confused about why so many people here seem to be assuming that blocking and ghosting are used in similar kinds of situations? Ghosting is immature and displays either a lack of social skills or disrespect or both, it's breaking things off without explanation because you're too socially awkward to directly reject someone, because you're putting them on the back burner and want to have plausible deniability if you decide to pick them up again, or because you think your time is so much more va… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/08/20 05:39 AM |
| 1 | Dread is a necessity because women are "walking, talking," dread gameI don't see a difference in the incidence of silent treatment/pouting between men and women, it just looks different in typical men than it looks in typical women. In men, what it looks like is, "I don't want to talk about it, okay? Just leave me alone," storming out without saying where and refusing to answer texts/calls after a fight, escalating to physical violence to avoid communicating verbally, giving up in the middle of a conversation and just sitting down to play video games instead (ref… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/08/20 04:34 AM |
| 1 | Weekly Community Chat Megathread (16 August 2020)Yes if you use your heat to bring the fire back into at least five dead bedrooms | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/20 05:27 AM |
| 3 | Incel, Feminism and FDS megathreadYeah, that's easy to understand at a glance now, sorry for attacking your position before understanding it properly | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/20 02:06 AM |
| 3 | Incel, Feminism and FDS megathreadOk, then never mind, this entire argument was just based on talking past each other, we have zero disagreement | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/20 01:59 AM |
| 1 | Weekly Community Chat Megathread (16 August 2020)thank you for a mathematically-coherent response, this is a relief | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/20 01:57 AM |
| -1 | Incel, Feminism and FDS megathreadWas your original comment not saying that average women are the demographic with the highest n-count, then below-average women, then attractive men have a higher n-count than other demographics but still lower than average & below-average women? That was my interpretation of your list. If you intended your original comment to say "in the average looks demographic women have higher n-counts, in the below-average looks demographic women have higher n-counts, and in the attractive demographic men h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/20 01:54 AM |
| 1 | Weekly Community Chat Megathread (16 August 2020)I'm finding the lack of quantitative reasoning in this sub depressing for a place that's supposed to be debating rationally. If most commenters answer this question correctly, it would ease my faith in the world slightly. Quick question #1: If half of couples are completely dead-bedroom (no sex ever), how many times per week would the other 50% of couples need to have sex in order for the overall average rate of sex among couples to be 2x per week? Quick question #2: If the world has the same nu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/20 01:46 AM |
| 2 | Incel, Feminism and FDS megathreadEvery sexual encounter that contributes to a person's n-count also contributes to another person's n-count. If you add the n-counts of all straight men, it should be the same as the summed n-counts of all straight women. If you understand the math and still think that average women and below-average women have higher n-counts than attractive men, you must either think that attractive women have n-counts lower than average & below-average men or that there are a lot fewer straight women in the wo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/20 01:31 AM |
| 0 | Incel, Feminism and FDS megathreadIf this is the order, there must be a lot more lesbians than gay men, mathematically speaking | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/20 12:58 AM |
| 1 | Hook up culture and society makes being a romantic basically impossible, even for those that want to be.Your lack of numeracy makes me think there’s very little point in continuing to waste my time on you but let’s just do some basic arithmetic and note that if half of couples were fucking 7x a day, that would be 49x a week, and even if all the other couples never had sex at all the average would be 24.5x per week. My friend, I think you should take advantage of online classes for schoolchildren to get yourself an elementary-school math education. If you go a few steps beyond that and learn how to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/20 12:48 AM |
| 1 | Hook up culture and society makes being a romantic basically impossible, even for those that want to be....if the average guy had a sex drive "like a horny incl," there would be no need to use the phrase "like a horny incl" to describe it, people would just say "like a guy." (I actually don't think horny inc*ls have a stronger sex drive than others but that's another conversation.) Since you've said that one-offs don't matter, I'm not giving you more information about my sex life, because there's no point if you just dismiss it as a one-off. (Though idk why you think I should be going out to get l… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/20 12:27 AM |
| 2 | Hook up culture and society makes being a romantic basically impossible, even for those that want to be.| Men, however, make their own happen. Would men consider a tryst to be "sex" if it included no blowjob, no dick-in-vagina, and no dick-in-anus? The sex acts that get men off involve stimulating the dick, and the sex acts that get women off involve stimulating the clit. If you're not stimulating the clit, she's better off masturbating, because she can't force you to stimulate the clit, and if she's stimulating her clit with her own hand it defeats the point of having sex with another person. Ima… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/20 07:49 AM |
| 2 | Hook up culture and society makes being a romantic basically impossible, even for those that want to be.I'm not offended, I just think that it's absurd how confidently you're wrong and out of alignment with my own experience having a sex drive that's significantly higher than my boyfriend's. I initiate sex ~90% of the time, I often end up masturbating when he's not in the mood, the mismatch is part of why we started going poly, and usually there's only one day in a hormonal cycle when I'm uninterested (there's bloating and cramps for a week but when I have symptoms like that sex often alleviates t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/20 07:19 AM |
| 1 | Hook up culture and society makes being a romantic basically impossible, even for those that want to be.Women have sex drives, it's hard to say if it's the same, but certainly enough in the same ballpark to be comparable. The reason women's sexual behavior looks different from men's is a large difference in sex "brakes." On average, women are much more afraid of violence/murder from an intimate partner than men are, with penetrative dick in vagina sex women are more susceptible to STDs (and tend to have worse consequences from many of them, like infertility), women face a social stigma for having … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/20 09:45 PM |
| 17 | Hook up culture and society makes being a romantic basically impossible, even for those that want to be.....where does all your wisdom about women's sex drives come from.... Your comment is a joke with no basis in reality. If you think women don't want to fuck except when ovulating, what it means is women don't want to fuck you. I can see why, my pussy dried up reading your little rant. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/20 09:00 AM |
| 4 | Importance of behavioral patternsHealthy patterns (gender-agnostic): shares vulnerabilities, but also sets boundaries and sticks to those boundaries can laugh at themself, and laughs deeply, not just a giggle or a snicker talks positively about themself without giving off arrogance vibes and also works on self-improvement tells friends and any long term partner about their individual life goals which are independent of relationship goals Unhealthy patterns (also gender-agnostic): constantly worries about others’ opinions of the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/20 03:24 AM |
| 7 | Women seem to be really really bad at judging attractiveness from photosI agree that women often have difficulty judging attractiveness from photos, and I think this is because on a physical level, women tend to be more attracted to expressions/movement and how they convey personality than the actual physical features. By default, women are not attracted prior to seeing something attractive, and it's random (low) chance that an attractive expression someone has will show up in a photo. Features like waist to hip ratio and musculature are easy to determine in photos,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/20 08:47 PM |
| 2 | "Respect" in the bedroom - the morality of sex actsThere are plenty of sex acts I don’t do because I don’t find them appealing (e.g., I am not even the slightest bit interested in scat play and think it’s unhygienic), but there aren’t acts which I would do with a short-term casual fuck which I would avoid in a LTR. There are plenty of acts I like which I avoid with my primary partner (e.g., I enjoy biting my partner and leaving hickies on my partner but do not do either of these things to my primary), but that’s because he doesn’t enjoy them, no… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/20 08:30 AM |
| 1 | Would you date a crossdresser?Bisexual woman. I am especially attracted to people who crossdress and encourage it (e.g., I have done a boyfriend’s makeup, and I have bought cute feminine lingerie for a boyfriend) in my partners. I’ve never had a partner who was comfortable crossdressing in public, but I would also be supportive of that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/20 08:07 AM |
| 1 | What would you consider to be a moral alpha archetypeA “moral alpha” archetype isn’t defined by the job; you can have morally positive lawyers or special forces, and you can have other people who do the same jobs but are morally negative. I would define morally positive alpha characteristics more in terms of types of actions: the man who speaks softly to a crying toddler to calm them, the wealthy man who donates a significant fraction of his assets to build up his community and/or gives generous pay and benefits to his employees, the physically in… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/20 07:58 PM |
| 1 | What do you think men are talking about when we question women’s view on personal responsibility/accountability?The biggest reason you see a discrepancy is that you are comparing the responses of mostly red-pill men to mostly blue-pill women, and there is a huge gap in values between red pill and blue pill mentalities. The default red pill assumption of AWALT says you should always assume a woman is ready to branch swing, cheat, start drama for no reason, etc, even if she has not given any indications of these tendencies. In this mentality, the man who trusts a woman and gets burned is an idiot and needs … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/20 10:59 PM |
| 2 | Why do men stay in the Friendzone? and a bit on jealousyI wasn't saying anything about whether it's a good strategy for the woman (though yes, it is), I was trying to explain why it's a bad strategy for the man even when the woman is completely honest that she mostly dates guys who were friends first (actually even if she exclusively dates guys who were friends first and doesn't ever have casual sex, it is still a bad strategy for the man to be an orbiter). Basically trying to explain how the apparent discrepancy of "if she really only dates friends,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/20 05:18 AM |
| 2 | Why do men stay in the Friendzone? and a bit on jealousyThe length is to explain why what appears to be "mixed signals" or dishonesty is not, that both the woman's perception that she generally dates someone who was a friend first and the man's perception of being trapped forever in the friendzone can be accurate at the same time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/20 04:58 AM |
| 1 | Do women like planning out dates?This is an individual question. Some women enjoy planning dates, others don’t. I don’t enjoy planning dates but often do it anyway, though I do enjoy planning (BDSM) scenes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/20 04:03 AM |
| 2 | The current affairs in the United States are going to polarize men and woman with different political beliefs, to never seen before records.those with gender roles that worked better always come out ahead. My point being that technology has changed, war has changed... gender roles should also change. These are key insights, and although we aren't seeing civilizations within the US destroyed through warfare, I would say that the modern equivalent in western countries is cutthroat business competition, and the rise and fall of corporations. We are already starting to see evidence that tech companies (I'm most familiar with the tech in… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/20 08:20 AM |
| 2 | The current affairs in the United States are going to polarize men and woman with different political beliefs, to never seen before records.I'm more referencing the myth and legend part of feminism. The belief in "patriarchy", wage gaps, the prevalence of sexual assaults, the idea of rape culture... just stuff like that. Some of it is perhaps like splitting hairs, but some of it is a fundamental difference belief structure. There's a lot to unpack in just those few topics. There's some element of reality in each of them, but there are also a lot of common feminist talking points which are flat-out wrong. And no one uses consistent d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/20 06:00 AM |
| 7 | Why do men stay in the Friendzone? and a bit on jealousy9/10 women will say that the best relationships are with people you were initially friends with. They're sending mixed signals. Every relationship I've had that has lasted longer than a month and 5/6 of my close friends who are currently in LTRs started their relationships as friends. That said, being a friend isn't a ticket to a relationship, because most women have many friends. So if she has 5 friends and is going to date one of them, you only have a 20% shot of being the one (assuming each o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/20 01:26 AM |
| 1 | CMV: "the red pill" is actually one big complaint about "the patriarchy"What you describe are just shit tests society throws at boys and men to see if they have any frame. In what sense is this shit testing? Shit tests are given when a woman is questioning whether you ought to be perceived as high-status or not, and you can pass a shit test regardless of what kind of person you are as long as you remain in control of yourself and self-assured. When among people who apply pressure for toxic masculinity, the man who conforms is accepted (regardless of whether he has a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/20 12:36 AM |
| 1 | The current affairs in the United States are going to polarize men and woman with different political beliefs, to never seen before records.Most women honestly can't tell who is a feminist and who is not. Agreed. I would also say that most women aren't feminists themselves. I find their overall belief structure to be on par with Scientology. In which respects? And do you mean actual feminism (which by definition is believing that genders are of equal value and should have equal opportunities) or female chauvinism (the idea that women are superior to men, which a decent number of outspoken self-proclaimed "feminists" seem to endorse)… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/20 10:48 AM |
| 2 | Do you think most women are secretly not attracted to their partners?I've always just assumed they just use the stuff for women. Anal toys can be used regardless of gender or sexuality (definitely aren't just for gay men! I highly recommend that everyone with a prostate try it at least once) but it is important to get toys with a flared base if they're for anal insertion, which most toys for women do not have. Toys that don't have a flared base get sucked in towards the colon, which is bad news and likely requires a trip to the doctor. Edit: Sorry if this was mor… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/20 09:55 AM |
| 2 | Would requiring (or encouraging) users to change their flair to certain demographics like: sex, age, class, region, ethnicity, etc. make the sub discourse better? Would the community be in support of this?I explained that being American does not prevent an awareness of diversity (at least in my view it doesn't), and I explained that non-Americans automatically are confronted with diversity of nationality and culture through exposure to both their own nation and American culture/news. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/20 09:45 AM |
| 3 | Would requiring (or encouraging) users to change their flair to certain demographics like: sex, age, class, region, ethnicity, etc. make the sub discourse better? Would the community be in support of this?Not entirely sure what you're asking, but Reddit overall (not every sub, but the majority of subs, especially large subs) and PPD specifically do assume US as the default and do have more of a focus on what's going on in the US than elsewhere. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/20 09:18 AM |
| 0 | Sex - Big Deal or not? How do you feel about it?I like to have at least 10 hours of solid conversation (not small talk) with someone before sex and actually like the person. I want to feel comfortable with the person, trust the person to listen to me, and trust that the person will care about my enjoyment. I have found that sex is invariably better with a repeat partner than with a first-time partner because you know more about each other and can try out more novel experiences. Is sex a special moment of intimacy that should only be shared be… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/20 09:00 AM |
| 4 | Would requiring (or encouraging) users to change their flair to certain demographics like: sex, age, class, region, ethnicity, etc. make the sub discourse better? Would the community be in support of this?It doesn't. But being american means you aren't forced to develop awareness of the international world because american media is all about what's going on in the US, and media from other countries also has a decent to heavy emphasis on what's going on in the US, and most people in other countries have to learn to speak (at least some) English if they want good jobs. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/20 08:38 AM |
| 4 | The current affairs in the United States are going to polarize men and woman with different political beliefs, to never seen before records.Even before this, I would never have dated a conservative, and if a guy doesn't identify as a feminist after I talk it over with him, I'm also just not interested. The current political situation has made it easier to spot conservatives but hasn't fundamentally changed my views on who I would date. I'm not unfriending them on social media (I enjoy debating them, that's also half the reason I'm on this sub lol), but hard pass on dating. I went for hatesex once with a libertarian friend after an a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/20 08:29 AM |
| 2 | The current affairs in the United States are going to polarize men and woman with different political beliefs, to never seen before records.we cant instigate any kind of repercussions for people saying verbally racist things to each other We can, and we do. Social estrangement and reprobation, private companies choosing to fire people who make racist comments on social media... As long as it's not the government that's dealing out the repercussions, there are plenty of forms of backlash which are fair game without devolving into fascism or violating the first amendment | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/20 08:11 AM |
| 4 | CMV: "the red pill" is actually one big complaint about "the patriarchy"Some women use the term "toxic masculinity" this way, but also some men use the phrase "frigid bitch" to mean "she isn't interested in me," even if she actually is quite warm, kind, and sexual with people other than him. And some people use the word "fascist" to mean "disagrees with me politically." Words still maintain their true meanings even if people abuse them sometimes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/20 07:31 AM |
| 1 | CMV: "the red pill" is actually one big complaint about "the patriarchy"The idea behind toxic masculinity is to define male behavior that women view as useful to be “good”. Male behaviors that work against women are labeled “bad”. Disagree. Some women use the term "toxic masculinity" this way (similar to how some men use the word "frigid" to mean "she isn't interested in me," even if she actually is quite warm and sexual with people other than him), but that isn't what it means. "Toxic masculinity" describes the behaviors/mindsets men are pressured (imposed by both … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/20 07:25 AM |
| 0 | Q4W: If the burden of approaching, persistence and courting was on you, how would you handle it?I have pretty close real-life experience to the first two bullet points, both because I am a domme (and prefer to make an approach myself and to lead sexual encounters) and because I am bisexual (so I sometimes approach women). I have some experience with rejection but fortunately nothing like 9/10 times, so I won't be speaking from real-life experience on the third bullet point, but I can still go for the thought experiment. if it was incumbent on you to charm, impress or otherwise get the atte… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/20 06:52 AM |
| 1 | [Q4W] What Do You Look for in a BF?I don't have a major opinion on this because I pretty much only tune into MSM during political debates, but I would include watching non-MSM video takes under the umbrella of "watching news." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/20 01:10 AM |
| 1 | [Q4W] What Do You Look for in a BF?Having a high muscle mass beyond what's needed for everyday living does not make a person healthier, it's cardio that's valuable for improving health. Cardio is definitely worth doing over media consumption, working on muscle mass is only really valuable to overall health if you're starting from a place where you're fragile and/or elderly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/20 01:06 AM |
| 2 | [Q4W] What Do You Look for in a BF?3-12 hours a week is a significant amount of time. I’m also not interested in people who watch 4 hours of TV a day, but even watching TV is more likely to provide interesting topics of conversation than working out - for example, a person who watches the news can have a more informed opinion about current events. It is possible to watch TV or listen to podcasts/audiobooks while working out, and if a guy does this then props to him. However, the guys I personally know who work out often are much … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/20 09:15 PM |
| 2 | [Q4W] What Do You Look for in a BF?The only things that the people I have dated have in common are being very nerdy, not being muscular, being somewhere between 0 and 2 years younger than me, being more anxious and insecure than I am, and being feminist (in the sense of believing that women should be treated as the equals of men). In terms of physical features, I've been with people who have BMI between 17 and 33, height between 5'6" and 6'1", multiple hair colors and racial identities. In terms of personality traits, I am curren… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/20 08:44 PM |
| 2 | [Q4W] What Do You Look for in a BF?Being muscular while having a job which isn't physically demanding is a major time investment, and as such it does imply vanity or a need for validation, and it implies that he spends significant time on working out, which reduces the amount of time he can spend becoming a more mentally engaging person. Real life doesn't have limited skill points, but it does have a limited number of hours in the day. If I see a muscular man, I know that he either spends a lot of time working out or is in a phys… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/20 08:24 PM |
| 7 | CMV: Excessive grooming standards are to men what working on personality is to womenI would say that there are a lot of personal grooming elements that won’t matter enough to most women for it to be a dealbreaker, but most women have a few individual elements which do matter. For me it’s having clean hands and short, even fingernails because that’s pretty important if you’re going to be doing any fingering, and fingering is a requirement for sex with me. And really major personal grooming issues will turn most women off, like if you never shower and constantly smell like piss. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/20 04:58 AM |
| 8 | For feminist, blue pill, or pink pill women: How do the views that some of the men on this sub hold make you feel, and how does it affect your view of men?It makes me feel pity for them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/20 11:53 PM |
| 1 | Can we please talk about how FDS is the most ABOHORRENTLY CIRCLEJERKING subreddit to existSocialism is essentially government control of capital. Capitalism is private control of capital. I generally agree with this definition, though I would say that when I think of a 100% socialist society it has high levels of government control over all essential infrastructure (public transportation, health care, banking, etc) but much lower levels of control over other forms of capital (homes, golf clubs, churches, etc). I would also note that when there are significant government regulations o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/20 09:33 PM |
| 1 | Q4RPWomen - how, and, to what extent do you view and interpret RP?This mostly sounds like you are an introvert with a little bit of social anxiety. I am somewhat introverted, but I am only strongly introverted around strangers, and less introverted around strangers in a context that feels safe to me. I am usually happy to spend ~5-7 hours at a time socializing with friends, but I get exhausted after about 2-3 hours socializing with acquaintances, I can chat amiably for up to about an hour if I meet new people in a controlled context with low stakes (like havin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/20 09:12 PM |
| 1 | Can we please talk about how FDS is the most ABOHORRENTLY CIRCLEJERKING subreddit to existBeing attracted to both women and effeminate men is very suggestive. ...suggestive of what? you can PM me if this is something you want to try and practice, but the most successful stuff is acting mysterious and independent. Giving them space to miss you, allowing them to see that other people find you attractive... anything you can do to make yourself seem unique and highly valuable Thanks for the offer of more detailed tips, but I don't think this is something which I need help with. Giving sp… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/20 08:17 PM |
| 1 | Can we please talk about how FDS is the most ABOHORRENTLY CIRCLEJERKING subreddit to existSocial safety nets is not to my opinion a socialist idea. It is in my thinking a capitalist idea, whereby you take excess capital and invest it into systems that limit the boom and bust cycle inherent with capitalism. What do you think socialism is? In a purely capitalist system, what makes CEOs prioritize long-term stability of the entire system over short-term profit for their individual companies? What incentives does a private company have to fund a social safety net that covers everyone? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/20 08:04 PM |
| 1 | Q4RPWomen - how, and, to what extent do you view and interpret RP?I also enjoy small talk with people I don’t know. Small talk with people I don’t know is not something I enjoy. It is only mildly preferable to doing nothing at all for me, and even then only if I’m feeling like I have energy. It feels stressful because in-person I want to seem pleasant enough that I won't trigger a crazy vendetta (if the person happens to be already in a bad mood and/or just is sensitive to offenses) while seeming not pleasant enough to trigger a crazy stalker (if the person ha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/20 04:30 PM |
| 2 | Does "pussy privilege" grant benefits in online conversation?Thanks, this seems like an actually useful feature (conditional on wanting people to think you are helpless), you have my upvote for a fairly legitimate example. This seems like a conditional benefit that flips on its head if you ever want to give advice, but it does seem like a benefit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/20 04:10 PM |
| 1 | Q4RPWomen - how, and, to what extent do you view and interpret RP?The bitch shields in public lol I put up huge bitch shields in public, and I have a friend who is very happy about requirements to wear masks not just for the health reasons but also in order to augment the bitch shield. I can believe though that I would have been more open to talking with strangers without the existence of the internet and my smart phone - small talk with a stranger is much more appealing when the alternative is waiting bored in a line or at a bus stop with nothing to do than w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/20 09:15 AM |
| 1 | Can we please talk about how FDS is the most ABOHORRENTLY CIRCLEJERKING subreddit to existmany more of the guys are MGTOW, Incels, MRAs, weirdly some White Nationalists It surprises me that MGTOW would be red-pill? I thought a major point of trp was the idea of trying to attract women, and a major point of MGTOW is just not interacting with women at all? ...and i guess if incels are red-pilled they're doing a pretty poor job at it... Not really surprised about the MRAs or the white nationalists. they fail to understand that the Red Pill also applies to themselves. How should the red … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/20 08:58 AM |
| 1 | Does "pussy privilege" grant benefits in online conversation?The title uses air quotes (which are typically a sign of not giving full credence to the idea), and it's worded the way it is so as to not beg the question | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/20 08:51 AM |
| 1 | Does "pussy privilege" grant benefits in online conversation?This is a fairly error-prone method, especially with short texts. If you can accurately guess genders on random comments more than 60% of the time, I would be impressed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/20 04:08 AM |
| 1 | Can we please talk about how FDS is the most ABOHORRENTLY CIRCLEJERKING subreddit to existSoft Dredd is specifically designed to be used in relationships. This stuff I use frequently and works well. Secure attachment types will often just ignore it Can you give specifics about what soft dread entails? If secure attachment personalities completely ignore it, this might not be actions which I would think of as inducing "dread" because I am fairly secure lol. So, do you date both men and women, or just women? If it's both, have you ever noticed a difference in how they approach relation… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/20 04:03 AM |
| 1 | Does "pussy privilege" grant benefits in online conversation?Unless they thought it was relevant to the topic being discussed, or they were upset about being falsely assumed to have a different perspective than they do. Would you not have an emotional reaction and want to correct someone who misgendered you? also...would you know if a woman was a woman if she didn't mention she was female? If 5% of the posts you see identify themselves as women or blatantly hint, how do you know whether that means women make ~5% of posts and usually identify themselves as… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/20 03:06 AM |
| 2 | Can we please talk about how FDS is the most ABOHORRENTLY CIRCLEJERKING subreddit to existHalf of it's membership base seems to just want an excuse to stop trying. This sounds like you are perhaps not representative of the majority of people who self-describe as red pilled. I think I'm going to continue using the sidebar of that subreddit as a guideline for what trp means to most of its members, acknowledging that there are significant differences in philosophy among red pillers. they are raised to be kind and generous, and women like these traits only so far as they can be exploited… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/20 02:59 AM |
| 1 | What is your body count?yes, I top him | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/20 02:23 AM |
| 1 | Does "pussy privilege" grant benefits in online conversation?If you read the full post before commenting, you would see that I framed the post neutrally, and if you read any of my previous comment responses on the post, you would see they are skeptical of the idea of "pussy privilege." Please read before leaping to assumptions about what I'm supporting. I put up this question to see if anyone who does believe in it had semi-reasonable evidence, because I have seen many comments alluding to the idea. So far, nothing has convinced me that it exists. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/20 02:16 AM |
| 1 | Does "pussy privilege" grant benefits in online conversation?This looks like it's pictures of attractive women (especially if tits are featured) getting upvoted for being attractive. I would not consider this an example of what I was asking about because it looks like it's primarily sexual validation rather than non-sexual benefits. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/20 02:10 AM |
| 1 | Does "pussy privilege" grant benefits in online conversation?I am not involved with MRA, but I had never heard of Karen Straughan before, and I have heard of many male MRA spokespeople. Also, Google searching "men's rights activists" brings up a lot more male results than female (and Karen Straughan is not on the first page of results). I will believe that people do sometimes use their identity as a cheap trick to make themselves seem more persuasive and that Karen Straughan is one of those people, but this is less an issue of women having an advantage ov… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/20 02:00 AM |
| 2 | Does "pussy privilege" grant benefits in online conversation?If it didn't, women would never bother to go out of their way to mention that they are female Unless they thought it was relevant to the topic being discussed, or they were upset about being falsely assumed to have a different perspective than they do they almost always do ...would you know if a woman was a woman if she didn't mention she was female? If 5% of the posts you see identify themselves as women, how do you know whether that means women make ~5% of posts and usually identify themselves… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/20 09:06 PM |
| 1 | Does "pussy privilege" grant benefits in online conversation?You cannot contravene a woman's claims to victimhood with your real name. There was recently an example in the news of successfully stopping a woman's false claims to victimhood where real names were included: Amy Cooper. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/20 08:58 PM |
| 2 | Does "pussy privilege" grant benefits in online conversation?Many of the posts do this, but also there are some popular posts right now which aren't serving that purpose. This for example is just an attack on gender studies as a field of study, the woman wasn't trying to get out of an obligation. This is just a clapback to a woman saying something idiotic, there's nothing she was trying to escape accountability for though in the image. If a woman tries and fails to escape accountability, that is not evidence that her expectation to escape accountability w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/20 08:55 PM |
| 1 | Does "pussy privilege" grant benefits in online conversation?Look at the amount of women banned from this sub vs the amount of men Is there a place where we can see stats on who is banned? As far as I know, that isn't a generic feature on Reddit, and there isn't a tracker on this sub. Look at the level of insults and types of insults they use There are very ugly insults from both the men and the women on this sub, but anecdotally I have seen 2 women here who are sending out the highest degree of insults and 4 men outside of purge week, and during purge it… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/20 08:33 PM |
| 1 | Does "pussy privilege" grant benefits in online conversation?I have done research, and I have my own lived experience suggesting that "pussy privilege" does not exist. Read my post (which is neutrally worded) and my previous comment responses on the post (which are skeptical of the idea of "pussy privilege") before leaping to assumptions about what I'm supporting. I put up this question to see if anyone who does believe in it had semi-reasonable evidence. So far, nothing has been convincing to me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/20 08:22 PM |
| 1 | What is your body count?I’m bisexual, and my female partners haven’t wanted to top me. Also my primary partner is not comfortable with the idea of another man penetrating me, so I don’t let my current male non-primary partner top. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/20 08:11 PM |
| 1 | Can we please talk about how FDS is the most ABOHORRENTLY CIRCLEJERKING subreddit to existYou know how eating vegetables is good for you, but nobody likes to do it? Dread game is like vegetables for a relationship. I think you are confused about vegetables, vegetables are delicious. I also think that either I am misunderstanding your view of what constitutes "good" dread game or you are confused about women's psychology. The majority of women like and want stability and security. Dread in the short term provokes a response of loss aversion in humans (which for women dreading loss of … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/20 07:43 PM |
| 0 | Does "pussy privilege" grant benefits in online conversation?Is that about being a female player though or having a female avatar? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/20 08:11 AM |
| 1 | Can we please talk about how FDS is the most ABOHORRENTLY CIRCLEJERKING subreddit to existRed pill guys don't teach or use this tactic much anymore. Some use it and some don't. I'm not familiar with this particular idea, but it sounds stupid. It sounds like you do not think any of these specific behaviors I have called out are representative of trp, and if they are not then excellent. I'm not going to pretend that I'm an authority on which red pill ideas are most popular or most commonly practiced, but my understanding was that the sidebar of r/theredpill is one of the most-respected… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/20 08:10 AM |
| 2 | Does "pussy privilege" grant benefits in online conversation?The rules of this sub say completely allowed to respond to a comment, just not your post. Yes, and I didn't report you, because you didn't break a rule. You went against my preferences and common practice, not a rule. If I think the comment is off topic, I'm allowed to address that. You see how you're responding to my comment. You're not on the topic of your post either. It's perfectly appropriate to directly respond to someone's comments even if this goes off-topic. You responded to something w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/20 06:47 AM |
| 4 | Women who use Tinder: What do you see and want in male users?Less likely to hurt me, possibly (depends on whether they're legal owners, which isn't obvious from a Tinder profile). More likely to kill me - 2/3 of homicides in the US where the victim knew the murderer are carried out with a gun, in spite of the fact that only about 1/3 of Americans own a gun. I would rather be the victim of almost any crime other than murder. So for example if person A had a 20% probability of slapping me and running off with my wallet and a 1% chance of killing me, and per… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/20 06:42 AM |
| 1 | Does "pussy privilege" grant benefits in online conversation?isn't it odd how it changes for a woman? If you tell me that you have tracked commenters looking at your posts and looking at men's posts and have seen differences in how they respond (ideally citing concrete comments the same poster has made across different posts, but I will accept it if you just say you have actually tracked this behavior in particular commenters without giving explicit examples), that is evidence. You have not told me that this is the case. You have said "it changes for a wo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/20 06:29 AM |
| 1 | Does "pussy privilege" grant benefits in online conversation?If the whole POINT of the forum is to critique which figures are more realistic or not, you're not going to say the figure with the spaghetti arms is better than the one that understands how the muscles fit on the skeleton. If you think that the people on the forum are all good judges. My point is that a lot of people have (possibly objectively) poor taste, and even people who don't have poor taste will sometimes like something for irrational reasons (like that the lines are in the person's favo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/20 04:44 AM |
| 3 | Women who use Tinder: What do you see and want in male users?...why? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/20 04:36 AM |
| 1 | Does "pussy privilege" grant benefits in online conversation?Artistic skills can be objectively judged, despite this bizarre notion they cannot I agree they can be objectively judged by various measures, but people can still like and enjoy art which is low-quality by any given objective measure. You could make a post that's just a solid-colored square, and you could have people liking it because it happens to be their favorite color. So the fact that you've judged your work mediocre doesn't mean that people only liked it because they knew who the artist w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/20 04:34 AM |
| 2 | Does "pussy privilege" grant benefits in online conversation?interruptions can and do happen online...voice chat is a thing which exists, and going to a voice chat platform is likely to expose your gender whether you want to do that or not, unless you go to great effort to disguise your voice or happen to naturally speak with a pitch that's atypical for your gender. Thread your off-topic comments under the automod. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/20 04:30 AM |
| 6 | Women who use Tinder: What do you see and want in male users?I don't think a guy who owns a gun is more likely to be violent than a guy who doesn't own a gun. I think that a violent guy who owns a gun is likely to hurt me more than a violent guy who doesn't own a gun. Is that so irrational? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/20 04:21 AM |
| 3 | Does "pussy privilege" grant benefits in online conversation?It sidetracks the actual topic of discussion and makes it about me, me, me. Calling out that you were interrupted can be as non-invasive as saying "let me finish" or "wait, one more thing" leading right back into the topic you were discussing, and in this context it can help keep the conversation organized, because most often conversations start to go in a different direction when a new speaker interjects, because usually the new speaker has something to say which is different from what they wer… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/20 04:18 AM |
| 4 | Does "pussy privilege" grant benefits in online conversation?And all I was meaning to say was, if you have an off-topic comment, thread it under the auto-mod. Your comment doesn't belong as a direct response to my post. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/20 04:10 AM |
| 4 | Does "pussy privilege" grant benefits in online conversation?I bet you would get a few DMs, and they would all be expressing sexual interest and/or calling you a cunt. DMs are not necessarily positive, and (from the perspective of most women) DMs from a stranger expressing sexual interest are not a benefit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/20 04:09 AM |
| 3 | Does "pussy privilege" grant benefits in online conversation?I...am not sure how I am responding in an emotional way? I am asking for non-subjective evidence, my post says not to give examples "where you think a woman has made a stupid comment and is getting traction she doesn't deserve but there's no evidence that the people supporting the woman think it's a stupid idea" What makes you think that you are an unbiased judge of the quality of your own work? A lot of people judge themselves more harshly than other people judge their work. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/20 04:05 AM |
| 3 | Q4W: What is degrading about the male gaze?Literally the first thing I said was: First note: the “male gaze” is not every time a man looks at a woman I never said that someone looking at you makes you a passive object, I said that when media depict women as passive objects it generates feelings of helplessness. Read before you comment please. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/20 04:00 AM |
| 6 | Women who use Tinder: What do you see and want in male users?1) posting a picture with a gun is highly correlated with political views that I vehemently disagree with, to the point where I probably will not want to spend even an hour talking to the guy 2) It makes me feel less safe to meet a near-stranger if I know the guy owns a gun | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/20 03:56 AM |
| 3 | Does "pussy privilege" grant benefits in online conversation?terrible artwork/boring-as-fuck stories that would get absolute zero attention if it were from a dude These are both extremely subjective. What makes you think your taste determines what art is terrible and which stories are boring? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/20 03:53 AM |
| 2 | Does "pussy privilege" grant benefits in online conversation?These subs are specifically for the purpose of talking about sexual/romantic experiences and differences, so I would guess that it's common for the gender of the speaker to be relevant context. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/20 03:50 AM |
| 2 | Does "pussy privilege" grant benefits in online conversation?We could have a separate debate about court biases, though as Silly_Field points out, a lot of that has to do with the extreme injustice towards male POC. Your comment is off-topic for my post though, because this is a completely separate "what-aboutism" argument. This thread is to discuss whether there are benefits for a woman to reveal she is a woman online, not whether women or men generally have easier lives. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/20 03:46 AM |
| 8 | Does "pussy privilege" grant benefits in online conversation?Men walk on eggshells around women because y'all take every point of communication like a personal judgement. The dichotomy is that women get called aggressive or bitchy if they call out that were interrupted or refuse to give space for a man to make a comment, but if a woman yields speaking time to a man who's interrupting her, often he doesn't even recognize that he has interrupted her. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/20 03:41 AM |
| 3 | Does "pussy privilege" grant benefits in online conversation?I definitely think people are inclined to be more polite to women in offline interactions, but online it's the opposite effect imo Interesting observation. I think it's very context-dependent offline (e.g., people at a mechanic shop are not more polite to women, but people are a lot more polite to women working at a preschool than to men working at a preschool), and generally negative for women online. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/20 03:34 AM |
| 3 | Does "pussy privilege" grant benefits in online conversation?No, r/pussypassdenied is a great example of the opposite, where a woman gets insulted online (which I think is a lot more common). The goal of this post is to see if the ones who complain that women get treated better than men in internet conversations can provide any evidence of that, because tbh I've never seen it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/20 03:29 AM |
| 2 | Does "pussy privilege" grant benefits in online conversation?In any group where there are predominantly men Any group...really? How about MGTOW? the majority will simp for no other reason than her being female Is this simping relevant to what a woman is commenting about, or more derailing any non-sexual conversation along the lines of "oh you're so pretty"? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/20 03:25 AM |
| 0 | Women who use Tinder: What do you see and want in male users?Sometimes, sometimes not. It is not what I mean when I say "my type" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/20 03:20 AM |
| 5 | Women who use Tinder: What do you see and want in male users?I only used Tinder briefly and don't currently use Tinder, but while I was on the app: I left-swiped anyone with a shirtless mirror selfie and anyone without a bio, even if he was physically attractive I left-swiped anyone with a generic bio and anyone with a bio that had bigoted comments in their bio (even if it seemed to be expressed in a joking way) I left-swiped anyone who put up a picture of himself smoking, vaping, or with a gun I noticed that most guys had some photos where they looked si… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/20 03:11 AM |
| 3 | Q4W: What is degrading about the male gaze?First note: the “male gaze” is not every time a man looks at a woman. Most of the time, there is nothing wrong with a man looking at a woman. The term “male gaze” usually refers to either (a) when a man stares at a woman with an intensity and duration which are socially uncomfortable, or (b) when media represents everything through the male perspective (e.g., books that describe events and characters through a male paradigm - usually sexual, male POV porn) (a) is scary - if a man is staring inte… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/20 12:40 AM |
| 1 | Can we please talk about how FDS is the most ABOHORRENTLY CIRCLEJERKING subreddit to existWhat bad actions in particular are you talking about? Mostly I'm talking about the "How to..." sidebar links (how to tease, train, and manage bitches). For example, some of the guidance there tells men to insult (neg), deceive (through omission or direct lies), categorically refuse forgiveness (which, given that everyone makes mistakes sometimes, means a lifelong relationship is never on the table for men who actually follow that advice religiously), and treat a woman's time/effort as worth only… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/20 10:45 PM |
| 2 | What is your body count?Manual = using the hands, so this refers to acts like fingering or a handjob | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/20 09:44 PM |
| 3 | Can we please talk about how FDS is the most ABOHORRENTLY CIRCLEJERKING subreddit to existFds is certainly pretty deep in the circle jerking but I doubt it’s the most circle-jerking sub out there, anyone wanna enjoy some laughs at the expense of r/theworldisflat? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/20 07:55 AM |
| 2 | Weekly Community Chat Megathread (31 May 2020)It’s not healthy and might make you more susceptible to a yeast infection but it isn’t going to kill you | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/20 07:36 AM |
| 4 | Can we please talk about how FDS is the most ABOHORRENTLY CIRCLEJERKING subreddit to existWhat use is having a “good core” if you still perform bad actions? And at what point do the bad actions stop? Trp says you have to hold frame all the time, if you succeed at that how are you different from someone to whom “frame” comes naturally? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/20 07:04 AM |
| 5 | Can we please talk about how FDS is the most ABOHORRENTLY CIRCLEJERKING subreddit to existdesigned to emulate bad boys while not actually becoming one. How are you defining “bad boys”? imo a lot of trp advice is designed to turn men into bad boys, not just emulate them. Trp is amoral, and much of the advice involves deceiving, pressuring, or insulting women. Why do you say this is just emulation rather than actually becoming that kind of guy? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/20 06:56 AM |
| 1 | Why hasnt the fear of STDs and its untreatable mutations led to women treating high n count men and those who participate in casual sex as harshly as men treat high n count women?Because STD testing exists, and because sex ed is poorly taught (which causes misunderstandings of how STDs are transmitted and how n count affects STD chances, and also perpetuates the myth that sex with a condom is perfectly safe regardless and the myth that you can visually tell if someone has an STD by looking at their junk) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/20 11:49 PM |
| 7 | What is your body count?Mid-twenties F Idk where different people draw the line for body count so here's a breakdown. I personally consider n count to include oral and penetrative, plus manual if everybody had an orgasm. Above-the-belt sexual contact or more: 17 people Manual sex or more: 11 people Oral sex or more: 10 people Penetrative sex with me topping (strap-on): 4 people Penetrative sex with me receiving: 1 person I don't personally have hard and fast rules about numbers. I do have guidelines for what I find acc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/20 11:34 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: Could you view a man that is crying as a protector?I was raised with fairly minimal gender roles - in terms of leading by example, both my parents worked full time while I was growing up, and both parents did similar amounts of chores. They also had similar expectations in chores, educational success, and athletic success for their male and female children. The only significant gender role differences I can think of were in terms of what clothes and toys we (the kids) had, which tended to follow normal gender roles. But once we started reading a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/20 06:53 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: Could you view a man that is crying as a protector?Ok that response was well written! Had me laughing at the start. Thanks! I was referencing romantic emotions only. A good clarification. For my particular case, I actually only feel romantic love for my primary partner. I feel camaraderie and friend-love and sexual attraction for my other partners, but the romantic feelings are not there. So if you're talking about romantic feelings specifically, I am putting all my eggs in one basket. It's just it will never have the same level of commitment or… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/20 10:15 AM |
| 1 | Do you think male love (as portrayed in fiction produced by men) is ugly or unreasonable or not corresponding to reality?Making sacrifices and taking risks for the benefit the community is good. Making sacrifices and taking risks for the benefit the community is good for the community. It is not likely to be good for the wife or girlfriend of this person. For example, the medical personnel risking themselves to treat COVID patients right now are making sacrifices which benefit the community. But if you're the partner of medical personnel now, you are seeing less of your partner, it's stressful, and both of you are… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/20 09:56 AM |
| 1 | Do you think male love (as portrayed in fiction produced by men) is ugly or unreasonable or not corresponding to reality?True but a certain amount of wish fulfilment is expected. Irl average men are fine with average women. Yeah, I was just trying to answer your question of whether it was unreasonable to expect what was shown in the movies. I agree that IRL average men are typically fine with average women. Don't women get that out of their relationships with men? No. Most men do not: move to support his SO's career over his own, contribute equally to chores/cooking around the house (even when his SO also works fu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/20 07:51 AM |
| 4 | Q4W: Could you view a man that is crying as a protector?If you had one man and had to rely on him for everything I hope no one relies on their partner for everything, it’s valuable to be independent about at least some things (I can make myself a sandwich on my own, thank you very much). More seriously, no one should rely entirely on one person for all emotional needs, it’s important for humans to have friends/family who are trusted as well. For some people it might be a sibling, for others it might be a few college friends, for me it’s my partners, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/20 08:21 PM |
| 3 | Do you think male love (as portrayed in fiction produced by men) is ugly or unreasonable or not corresponding to reality?Depictions of what men want out of women: she should be hot and should support him consistently (usually mostly moral support) Is this unreasonable? Yes, both because the average guy should expect an average-looking woman rather than a hot one, and because in real life almost no one is that consistently supportive unless they’re a parent trying to use some kind of positive reinforcement only parenting style Is this ugly? Yes, the looks aspect is shallow, and the “supports me always” aspect is na… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/20 07:59 PM |
| 2 | Do you think male love (as portrayed in fiction produced by men) is ugly or unreasonable or not corresponding to reality?It’s funny, I agree entirely with the description u/NUE4T9x gave of how movie representations are, but I disagree strongly about the answer to in what ways this might be ugly or unreasonable. The movie fantasy is unreasonable because relationships are built on compatibility (not the “good deeds” the fantasy shows or the confidence NUE4T9x mentions). The depiction is ugly because (a) it shows a world where men only deserve love after they do something heroic, and in reality most people aren’t her… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/20 07:27 PM |
| 5 | Q4W: Could you view a man that is crying as a protector?(tongue-in-cheek but I wouldn’t be surprised if this was the motive for some men) he might protect you without emotional connection if he considers you to be his property | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/20 07:08 PM |
| 5 | Q4W: Could you view a man that is crying as a protector?Also OP, your anecdote about this woman who’s a huge advocate for male vulnerability being part of the system she hates is not super strong evidence to me. It’s common that people who publicly give the loudest denunciations are themselves part of the group they speak against, consider the socially conservative politicians who have been outed as gay. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/20 07:06 PM |
| 7 | Q4W: Could you view a man that is crying as a protector?This post is very similar to a few others that have been up in recent weeks, but here’s my response anyway, because I am passionate about men expressing their emotions. Yes, for me it is ideal if a relationship can be emotionally vulnerable on all sides. My partner and I cried and talked together last night, and it was a comforting/healing experience. My male partners have also cried several other times on me while I was not crying (confiding insecurities, expressing frustrations, or mourning a … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/20 07:01 PM |
| 1 | I will admit. I am an asshole because WAY to many females thick they have smart, deep, intelligent minds that know everything, but they know nothing. I just don't understand..Again you’re right but you missing the point We might be talking past each other due to different values of what deserves admiration. Personally, I value skills and effort, but I don’t think that willingness to take risks is particularly worthy of admiration. I don’t think it’s bad or good to be willing to take risks, I think it’s very neutral. But I’m not going to say, “this guy, he takes such big risks, what a man.” So if you think that taking risks is inherently admirable, that’s a values dif… | /r/MGTOW | 30/05/20 05:21 AM |
| 1 | I will admit. I am an asshole because WAY to many females thick they have smart, deep, intelligent minds that know everything, but they know nothing. I just don't understand..Choosing to try to start something new is always risky. Even if you have a great idea and make perfect leadership decisions given the information you have, it might be that the public won’t be ready for your product for another year or so, or someone else had a very similar idea and gets it to market a couple months before you, or that some unforeseeable natural disaster will strike just after you start and put you out of business, or one of your important early hires gets poached by someone who… | /r/MGTOW | 29/05/20 04:37 PM |
| 3 | I will admit. I am an asshole because WAY to many females thick they have smart, deep, intelligent minds that know everything, but they know nothing. I just don't understand..To start a successful business takes luck and at least one of good salesmanship or your own source of wealth for starter funds. The rest can be delegated to employees (e.g., it's not like Jeff Bezos writes and maintains all the code that keeps his empire running). It's true that some employees are unskilled and easy to replace, but most successful companies have some very capable and valuable employees. These employees are paid a lot because they have skills. The owner makes a lot of money becau… | /r/MGTOW | 29/05/20 07:33 AM |
| 3 | What are some opening lines that will work on you in public (grocery store/ beach) so long as the guy is good looking?Adorable/10 for the chubby chihuahua and 12/10 for the shih tzus | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/20 12:20 AM |
| 3 | What are some opening lines that will work on you in public (grocery store/ beach) so long as the guy is good looking?Nah i don't feel you, ioi is hard enough to tell even without the masks there's no way you can get a good read on whether it's actually an ioi with the masks but good luck man | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/20 12:08 AM |
| 4 | What are some opening lines that will work on you in public (grocery store/ beach) so long as the guy is good looking?They're all good dogs | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/20 12:05 AM |
| 3 | What are some opening lines that will work on you in public (grocery store/ beach) so long as the guy is good looking?They're good dogs Brent | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/20 11:44 PM |
| 2 | What are some opening lines that will work on you in public (grocery store/ beach) so long as the guy is good looking?Try other OLD sites. And/or get a friend to help you make your OLD profiles better. OLD doesn't all suck as much as tinder, and it's a better experience if your profile is high quality. Hitting on people in grocery stores when you're both wearing masks and trying to keep 6 ft apart and probably within earshot of kids and old people and you can't even see her facial expressions to judge whether she's at all interested sucks no matter how you do it. And you're going to find that most women in a gr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/20 11:39 PM |
| 7 | I will admit. I am an asshole because WAY to many females thick they have smart, deep, intelligent minds that know everything, but they know nothing. I just don't understand..their disrespectful egotistical assumption that he was a regular joe with no value It's not disrespectful to assume a person is a regular joe. Most people are. It is disrespectful to assume a person who is a regular joe has no value. Most people can't even make money w/o the 9-5 Job they depend on. When the people employing them bust their ass learning the skillet need to provide, run the company, sell the product, and create the product. Not sure why you are glamorizing business owners. It cuts… | /r/MGTOW | 28/05/20 11:07 PM |
| 2 | Liberals are trying to normalize neckbeards (neards)The article you linked is on a website where many articles are meant to be more humorous than serious, and this article was more of a lighthearted commentary on how people do less grooming while social distancing than an actual representation of interest in men with neckbeards. Liberals as a general rule are not trying to normalize neckbeards lmao this is not a fashion trend, it's just temporarily becoming more common as people have the mindset of nobody-is-going-to-see-me-so-why-bother | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/20 10:16 PM |
| 1 | What are some opening lines that will work on you in public (grocery store/ beach) so long as the guy is good looking?Don't hit on women in grocery stores. Just don't do it. It's going to be just as terrible of an experience for you as tinder, and it's a worse experience for everyone around you. If you don't like tinder, try other OLD sites before becoming the asshole who hits on women while they're trying to get groceries during a pandemic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/20 10:05 PM |
| 1 | If you disagree with the feminist movement being about equality, what would be a more convincing way to promote women's equality?Culture does change slowly in most cases, and it takes a long time to completely eradicate wrong-headed traditional ideas, but the rate of change isn't entirely outside our control, and significant incremental change can happen within a lifetime. For example, cultural perceptions of LGBT people have changed quite rapidly over the last few decades: https://www.pewforum.org/fact-sheet/changing-attitudes-on-gay-marriage/ Changing from 60% disapproval of gay marriage to 30% disapproval in 15 years i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/20 07:16 PM |
| 1 | If you disagree with the feminist movement being about equality, what would be a more convincing way to promote women's equality?I don't agree that the issue is already solved in younger generations - it's not just judges, it's also at the level of police officers (who are mostly GenX or younger) who choose whom to arrest/pursue and disproportionately still go after men and racial minorities. Do you think a millennial police officer is equally likely to give a ticket to a middle-aged (not attractive) mom who was 15 mph over the speed limit vs. a middle-aged man going the same amount over the speed limit? And even if it is… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/20 05:52 PM |
| 1 | If you disagree with the feminist movement being about equality, what would be a more convincing way to promote women's equality?Do you think the shorter sentences for women should be classified as a “legal privilege” when there are no laws suggesting that women should get shorter sentences? It is something that happens in the legal system, yes, but it isn’t written into any law, all of these results are because of the prejudices/discretion of individual human beings. If we had different cultural stereotypes, the results could be different without changing any laws. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/20 03:53 PM |
| 6 | Weekly Community Chat Megathread (24 May 2020)If you're referring to the stats post (https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/gqo7w5/statistics_showing_the_type_of_users_here_on/), the OP wildly misrepresented those numbers. The commenters and posters in this sub are 60x more likely than the average redditor to also post/comment in incel subs, which is very different from saying incels are 60% of this sub's active users. People who post on incel subs are a tiny fraction of the overall reddit population (much less than 1%), and 60 … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/20 08:32 AM |
| 1 | If you disagree with the feminist movement being about equality, what would be a more convincing way to promote women's equality?Question: do you think that any of these are real problems (or are symptoms of real problems) which society should do something to address? men are much more likely to die on the job than women are due to hazardous work environments men are much more likely than women to commit suicide men on average get longer sentences than women when they have committed similar crimes | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/20 08:22 AM |
| 1 | The hottest 1% of Men tend to be able to sex with a lot of Women, what advantages do the hottest 1% of Women get?I didn’t mean to imply either of those, I meant to imply that being an actress or a model tends to correlate with eating disorders: https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/76241#1 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/20 04:34 AM |
| 1 | Have you ever tried OLD as the other sex? What was your experience? Woman goes undercover as a man on tinder and is floored by how challenging the experience is. (Video)Many of those girls just want to flirt for attention and little more. Possible? But I would guess that most of the time when there's a match (this was tinder) it means the guy passed the girl's basic looks requirements. And both guys who I did this for are in tech so I would assume they hit the salary criteria of almost all women. I see your point about the bird's eye view, and it's hard to speak to that because there are so many entangled variables, but this experience just makes me skeptical a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/20 09:57 PM |
| 14 | The hottest 1% of Men tend to be able to sex with a lot of Women, what advantages do the hottest 1% of Women get?Opportunity to be an actress or model, along with increased chances of an eating disorder | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/20 09:26 PM |
| 5 | Have you ever tried OLD as the other sex? What was your experience? Woman goes undercover as a man on tinder and is floored by how challenging the experience is. (Video)1) men are just as insecure about their bodies as women are, even when they are physically attractive and will avoid putting up photos they're embarrassed by even if they have no reason to be embarrassed 2) men who try to appeal to the broadest base possible (e.g., don't include pictures of "weird" things like a photo of them intensely playing chess and only include more generic photos and self-descriptions) can only get away with it if they're very attractive. The average-looking man is better-… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/20 08:36 PM |
| 1 | Do you think that manipulating women's sexuality to solve the current dating crisis would possible and/or ethical?This is only halfway hypothetical. Birth control pills already make women more attracted to non-alphas, and use of this is widespread and mainstream. Doesn't increase libido though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/20 07:49 PM |
| 2 | Have you ever tried OLD as the other sex? What was your experience? Woman goes undercover as a man on tinder and is floored by how challenging the experience is. (Video)No, but I have tweaked friends' profiles or responded to messages on their behalf, with varying results. When I swapped out photos (looked through their photo options and picked ones I liked) for male friends, they started getting ~20-100% more matches in all three cases where I did this. When I swapped photos for female friends, it didn't make much of a difference. When I have tried responding to a match on a friend's behalf, the pass-off doesn't really work because I'm not good enough at imper… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/20 07:45 PM |
| 2 | Q to bluepill, why you are not redpill?Antony and I are in it for the long haul for sure. We plan to have kids at some point and might get married idk I have mixed feelings about marriage. Bob has for years been holding a torch for someone who's not interested in sexual or romantic relationships at all (let's call that person Sam) and imo if Bob ever finds a new romantic obsession he will ditch us for that person, but he insists he's just going to have this unrequited love for Sam forever. Sam is also friends with us. Bob's other par… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/20 05:48 PM |
| 2 | Q to bluepill, why you are not redpill?I'm sure your alpha fucks had beta characteristics too. I don’t really get how you are defining alpha and beta characteristics, but I don’t think you’re using the standard definitions people think of. Are alpha and beta characteristics standard by your definition, or can alpha and beta mean different things to different women? Wait, are you poly? Yes, that’s in my flair. Also bi and sexually dominant, so yes, my identities make me a very small percentage of women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/20 05:10 PM |
| 2 | Q to bluepill, why you are not redpill?Maybe it’s easier to track if I give them gendered names instead of letters, so here we go A - Antony, B - Bob, C - Carla (not their real names) Bob has the lowest bar to pass, he just has to get a clean STD test with a new partner (we all use condoms and get tested once a year anyway, but the STD test from a new partner is extra protection) Carla has to get the STD test and approval from me (this is her requirement for herself, not my requirement for her, she just trusts my judgment of people’s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/20 05:02 PM |
| 1 | Q to bluepill, why you are not redpill?I am quite aroused by my current partners, more so than casual partners I have had previously. And I have only once gotten with someone who I wasn’t comfortable with and then decided to never do that again because as it turns out I have trouble orgasming if I am uncomfortable or nervous. Arousal and comfort go hand in hand for me, if I’m not comfortable I’m not aroused. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/20 04:44 PM |
| 1 | Q to bluepill, why you are not redpill?i am with man A, man B, and woman C; A is with me and C; B is with me, woman D, and woman E (also sometimes does threesomes which include me and A but they don’t interact); C is with just me and A currently but has had other female partners before, they just didn’t last Edit: none of this is set in stone, but any additions need to go through a long and kinda convoluted approval process which is different for each person so not going to go into details unless you are interested | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/20 04:12 PM |
| 2 | Q to bluepill, why you are not redpill?Not sure where you get that idea? One of my guys is very non-violent, the other is probably normal levels of violent (has not ever killed outside of video games though), and I do not encourage or get turned on by displays of violence... If anything, violence is a turn-off for me. I don’t want to be thinking about death or gore. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/20 04:05 PM |
| 3 | If you disagree with the feminist movement being about equality, what would be a more convincing way to promote women's equality?Provided for your entertainment, limited release | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/20 10:00 AM |
| 2 | If you disagree with the feminist movement being about equality, what would be a more convincing way to promote women's equality?It’s not the highest priority, but it would be such an easy change to make. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/20 09:47 AM |
| 2 | If you disagree with the feminist movement being about equality, what would be a more convincing way to promote women's equality?You didn’t read my post. It’s the last sentence I wrote. Also this was not intended to be a comprehensive list. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/20 09:23 AM |
| 1 | If you disagree with the feminist movement being about equality, what would be a more convincing way to promote women's equality?Copying over the things I want changed from a legal perspective (not all of which are about legal privileges men have that women don’t, but all of which are intersectional feminist issues): Car safety requirements are set to be appropriate for the average man (with the vast majority of men having full protection while driving), but women are on average smaller, so a significant proportion are not able to drive a car safely, which leads to a higher injury/fatality rate for similar crashes with wo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/20 09:21 AM |
| 2 | If you disagree with the feminist movement being about equality, what would be a more convincing way to promote women's equality?Car safety requirements are set to be appropriate for the average man (with the vast majority of men having full protection while driving), but women are on average smaller, so a significant proportion are not able to drive a car safely, which leads to a higher injury/fatality rate for similar crashes with women relative to men. The safety requirements should not be based around the average man as the average human. The draft should be banned. It’s not necessary and not just. Men should have the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/20 09:08 AM |
| 2 | Q to bluepill, why you are not redpill?Sounds like it works for you then. I don’t think that makes it obvious that it’s better for men in general and certainly don’t think that makes it obvious it’s better for people in general, but if it works for you go ahead and keep following your strategy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/20 02:30 AM |
| 2 | Q to bluepill, why you are not redpill?If I see 10 people do a keto diet and they all get good results, I am going to try it. You can use a heuristic like this if that’s all you need to change how you behave, but for my part I’m not going to make a drastic change to my lifestyle without something more solid... especially given that I’m perfectly happy with my weight already. I've nailed a bunch of men hating hypocrites and I'm going to guess the majority of married women I've fucked are dating people who think BP is a good idea. This… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/20 02:21 AM |
| 3 | Q to bluepill, why you are not redpill?it's not propaganda, it common language convention It’s common language convention to say something along the lines of “women are like that” and mean “most women.” It is not common language convention to say “all women” unless you mean > 99% and even then people usually expect 100% if there’s no context. If someone said “all women have a vagina” I would assume that they don’t think trans women are women rather than assuming that they are generalizing. The acronym would work just as well being WA… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/20 02:05 AM |
| 3 | Q to bluepill, why you are not redpill?Soyboys, absolutely, simps, eh, but people will use the term "simp" to refer to any man who follows a woman's lead regardless of whether he is actually a simp or not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/20 01:39 AM |
| 2 | Q to bluepill, why you are not redpill?First, you are continuing to argue a different point (that trp is something which is useful to most people) than what I was arguing (that trp is not useful to me personally). Second, I don't agree with your points either: if they are too stupid to figure things out that's on them It's what trp literally espouses as a belief system, and most trp men encounter this from a place of pain and/or anger, so it seems to me a bit callous to say they deserve to be deceived because they were hurting too mu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/20 01:38 AM |
| 6 | Q to bluepill, why you are not redpill?Poly doesn't always mean "open relationship." The only people I fuck are my partners, and as I said, both my male partners are beta/feminine. I happen to have more than one partner, which is why the poly flair. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/20 01:25 AM |
| 3 | Q to bluepill, why you are not redpill?For a reasonable person, sure. Not everyone is reasonable though, there are plenty of redpillers who have been blinded by their personal struggles in a way which is unreasonable, and for them it is very easy to take AWALT literally. Check out this comment and this one. There are people who very literally believe AWALT, and maybe they're not the majority of trp, but trp philosophy does nothing to discourage them from taking its slogans at face value. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/20 01:20 AM |
| 5 | Q to bluepill, why you are not redpill?Soaking wet and (excuse me) squirting. Doesn't matter to me whether I am the norm or not, and I don’t claim to have better data than anyone else about what’s broadly true, but my general impression is that most women prefer more masculine men but care about other features more. The question was not, "do you think red pill philosophy is broadly wrong?" it was "why are you not redpill?" The answer to why I am not redpill is because the commentary is useless to me in terms of getting what I want ou… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/20 12:55 AM |
| 5 | Q to bluepill, why you are not redpill?you don't focus on the minority AWALT = ALL women, it shouldn't matter if I'm the minority if it actually applies to all women. If AWALT is supposed to mean "the majority of women are like that," it should be phrased that way. Also the OP asked why people who aren't red-pilled aren't red-pilled. My comment is simply saying, "I'm in the portion of the population that this doesn't apply to, so red pill has no value to me in explaining my dating life or appropriate strategies for me to follow." It … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/20 12:51 AM |
| 2 | What attraction signals do you use?i smile and give eye contact to everyone unless I'm really creeped out, I play with my hair when I want to play with my hair. Those are meaningless indicators. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/20 12:37 AM |
| 1 | What attraction signals do you use?I tell him. For a relationship: "Hey, I like you as a human being, and I want to get to know you in bed as well [plus specific comments of what I like about him]. You don't have to give me an answer right now, but I'd appreciate it if you can tell me some of what your thoughts are, and if you do already know how you feel please don't drag it out." For casual sex, if he's never been to my place before: "Want to come back to my place?" For casual sex, if he's already at my place or the kind of fri… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/20 12:34 AM |
| 7 | Q to bluepill, why you are not redpill?I'm not red pill because red pill philosophy pretends I don't exist. I am a woman who likes feminine men and is turned off by aggressive men who try to take the lead. Why would I subscribe to a worldview that claims AWALT when nearly everything they describe directly goes against how I live and what I'm attracted to? AWALT is a huge simplification that just doesn't stand up in the face of my reality, and trp in general provides no guidance for the kind of life I want. I love my soft, sweet, vuln… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/20 12:24 AM |
| 4 | Q to bluepill, why you are not redpill?All women are red pilled Where is your evidence for this? If you’re linking anecdotes from posters and comments on this subreddit as “proof” then you’re demonstrating the much weaker claim that some women (...who are on a debate forum about trp) are red-pilled and claim other women are. Please tell me how AFBB it is to fuck through a bunch of very non-Chadly virgins (sure that can be called CC but there’s no alpha in sight) and then settle in with three partners who all make less money than I do… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/20 11:58 PM |
| 3 | Q to bluepill, why you are not redpill?Also am attracted to femme men and was only ever on the pill for a span of one week of my life which was so miserable I’m never doing it again | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/20 11:26 PM |
| 6 | Q to bluepill, why you are not redpill?Always is a strong word. I’m a counterexample to your claim, I like beta/feminine men and am high libido. Both my male partners are beta/feminine, and sexual attraction was definitely part of the equation for me | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/20 11:23 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Subs like these are toxic and bad for people's self-image and view of the worldTheir formula is very much intended to attract submissive women Agreed. Often it seems like they don't acknowledge the existence of women who aren't submissive, and when presented with counterexamples will assume she just hasn't yet met a man who's alpha enough to trigger her submission no need to mention this while telling the boyz about your ultimate alfalfa male lifestyle. But it would be interesting if you got responses to a thread. Yeah, I don't think this is the right sub for a post on the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/20 08:47 PM |
| 3 | CMV: Subs like these are toxic and bad for people's self-image and view of the worldYeah, I should have phrased that as "both the red and blue pill people on this sub seem largely ignorant of." although they don't seem very active on this sub, I can definitely believe that some redpillers would be into poly or BDSM, but I imagine within very different frameworks than what I'm a part of. I'm personally involved with committed poly where the default is that the relationship is closed, just encompassing more than two people (i.e., it's cool to fuck any of your partners, but it's c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/20 05:46 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Subs like these are toxic and bad for people's self-image and view of the worldOh certainly some posts are very one-sided, it’s the full comment threads that I meant | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/20 08:46 AM |
| 2 | CMV: Subs like these are toxic and bad for people's self-image and view of the worldTo be fair, those things are somewhat specific, so I wouldn't expect large groups of people to be aware or observant of. Which is why I’m here to add comments! Not here to judge people for being ignorant, more trying to alleviate the ignorance you'd be surprised how different people can act irl. A lot of people do filter, and I'm certain that a lot of the incels would be happy that a woman would actually talk to them irl. Yeah, but I’d like to see the unfiltered views | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/20 08:34 AM |
| 2 | CMV: Subs like these are toxic and bad for people's self-image and view of the worldthe content affirms their views considering that it is allowed to be posted The point of this sub in particular is that divergent views can be posted on certain topics. I personally haven’t found any threads here to be fully one-sided, so I don’t think anyone is escaping without seeing content they disagree with | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/20 08:30 AM |
| 3 | CMV: Subs like these are toxic and bad for people's self-image and view of the worldI personally am here 1/3 because I like arguing, 1/3 to educate the lovely members of this sub on all things LGBT and poly and BDSM (which both blue and red pill seem largely ignorant about), and 1/3 because I want to see from the safety of my screen the views of people who I would never talk to irl in order to prevent my content intake from becoming a bubble | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/20 08:04 AM |
| 4 | CMV: Subs like these are toxic and bad for people's self-image and view of the worldi think a lot more people are here to troll or just for the fun of trying to dunk on people than to seek "refuge in these subreddits because it's a safe-haven from reality" I really doubt many people are here for a safe haven, and imo this sub is less toxic than many others because there are actually people with different opinions and it doesn't become too much of a circle jerk or echo chamber There are opportunities here (for people willing to listen) to educate themselves on alternate radical … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/20 07:52 AM |
| 7 | Statistics showing the type of users here on Purple Pillalso just for the record i am subscribed to literally none of these top subs lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/20 06:29 AM |
| 10 | Statistics showing the type of users here on Purple PillThese stats are NOT percentages. These are the likelihood that someone posts & comments on a sub (given that they are subscribed to PPD) relative to all users of Reddit. So for example, incelswithouthate only has ~20K subscribers, and I would assume that the number of people who comment/post on that sub is smaller than the number of subscribers, because that's true of pretty much every sub. If we do some rough estimates, we get [20K incelswithouthate subscribers] / [330M total Redditors] x 62.92… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/20 06:28 AM |
| 6 | Statistics showing the type of users here on Purple PillActually whereareallthegoodmen is mostly men making fun of women | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/20 05:57 AM |
| 2 | Being nice to women doesn’t make you a beta maleI can’t verify it’s real (I just found it scrolling through the top of r/niceguys), but I have personally received similar messages, like this one: https://www.reddit.com/r/rant/comments/ent8cf/this_guy_copypastes_to_hit_on_me_via_reddit_pm/ That’s somewhat your competition, but it’s pretty low-tier competition and these kinds of people usually get weeded out quickly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/20 02:12 AM |
| 2 | Being nice to women doesn’t make you a beta maleFor example, here is a prototypical exchange with a "nice guy": https://www.reddit.com/r/niceguys/comments/gpokwj/then_he_proceeded_to_try_and_call_me/ You can see that he calls himself nice and starts out arguably polite but rapidly devolves into verbal abuse and should not actually be considered a nice person | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/20 01:35 AM |
| 2 | Being nice to women doesn’t make you a beta malewomen want to be dominated Do you mean “most women want to be dominated” or “all / all attractive women want to be dominated”? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/20 01:10 AM |
| 3 | Being nice to women doesn’t make you a beta male“nice” is not an insult. “nice guy” is a trope which is an insult and implies the guy is actually not nice at all but pretends to be nice until rejected sexually. (“guy” is also not an insult.) Like how “brown” and “nose” separately are pretty bland words but “brown-noser” is an insult. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/20 01:03 AM |
| 7 | If a girl dresses slutty shes not doing it for herself.Example of psychological "armor": say a 5'4" woman is reaching for a book that's slightly too high for her to get to. If the 5'10" man walking by thinks she is unattractive, let's say he will laugh and take a photo of her struggling 10% of the time, ignore her 80% of the time, and help her 10% of the time. If he thinks she is attractive, let's say he will help her 80% of the time and ignore her 20% of the time. She doesn't care if he is helping her because he's a nice person or because he thinks… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/20 11:02 PM |
| 13 | If a girl dresses slutty shes not doing it for herself.“doing it for herself” doesn’t mean the same thing as “doing it without caring about who else is around her.” for herself means that the end goal is her happiness, which might come from something that involves attention from other people (e.g., if she wants people to remark on how detailed her Darth Vader costume is) or might not (e.g., if she likes feeling the smoothness of her legs after shaving them). So it’s perfectly consistent to say she’s doing it for herself while not wanting to do it if… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/20 10:36 PM |
| 4 | Women, how are you going to prevent your sons from growing up to be betas?Teach him to treat women as human beings rather than inscrutable/irrational mysteries or sex machines, encourage him to develop communication and social empathy skills, support him in getting a high-quality, comprehensive education (including both academics and athletics in the education, and also art), give him career advice/connections and support when he's starting out, give him enough financial support as a student that he can spend time socializing and joining clubs rather than working and … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/20 02:07 AM |
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