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the male actors keep getting more muscular Film/Television is a slightly different industry than comics/video games, since it involves real people. Actresses have always been hot. Leonardo Dicaprio Citation please. Is it for the promiscuity or the partying? I'm willing to bet TSwift gets several times the flak and she only dates like a normal person.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/16 07:26 AM
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EVERYONE is yes, but it occurs to women at a much higher rate. In fact, non-objectified women are the exception, not the rule. Skin tight spandex. Perfect bodies. As I've already explained, it's a display of power. You don't see teenage girls masturbating to Superman comics because of his huge muscles (yes, teenage girls do masturbate). Women in the theater for Thor: The Dark World were vocalizing their wishes that Chris Hemsworth, "objectified" as "The Sexiest Man Alive" by People Magazine, wou…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/16 07:17 AM
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no, it's a display of power. This (slightly NSFW) is more clearly sexualized (sexual expression/softer lines/focus on crotch). Also, women don't masturbate to superhero comics. Superman isn't a sex icon.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/16 04:05 AM
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Sexualized women in media? Women are oversexualized in the media. You don't see anywhere near the same amount of pandering to the female gaze as you do the male gaze. Males comic book heroes/video game characters are rarely in sexualized clothing (to get a sense of sexualized male clothing, have a look at gay porn). They're not vilifying male sexuality, they vilifying this type of pandering. Vilifying sexuality looks more like slut shaming (which doesn't exist for men). You can be sexual without…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/16 03:17 AM
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It doesn't have to be a healthy relationship, and judging from the comments in this chain, it's not solely in the context of BDSM either. We are discussing the essence of dominance vs. submission, which, imo, is just control. When someone submits, they give up a certain level of their autonomy. In a healthy relationship, it is done with consent. But it doesn't have to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/16 02:39 PM
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but I've never known a woman who wasn't "some maintenance." What's the point of being in a relationship if there's no connection?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/16 12:55 PM
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The gender aspect is unnecessary. The only thing that determines dom/sub is control. The dominant person makes the decisions for the submissive person. As in, the sub gives up their autonomy, willingly or otherwise, for the dom.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/16 12:51 PM
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Women are fighting for more females be financial gurus, IT professionals, engineers, corporate bigwigs -- generally anywhere there's money or status to gain Yes, because it's about equality in power. Feminists also aren't saying how unfair it is that so few sex workers are male and we need more male representation in prostitution. Feminists want more women as IT professionals, engineers, and corporate bigwigs because those people make a lot of decisions which impact women, and women should have …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/16 06:34 AM
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Lets look at the top tier men vs top tier women. Those aren't good comparisons. One is a model, the other is a singer/actor/celebrity. If you are going to use singer/actor/celebrities, I reserve the right to bring out some seriously ugly motherfuckers. If you are going by models, this would be a better comparison: https://harmoniaphilosophica.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/victorias-secret-model-candice-swanepoel-shows-off-her-sexy-body-as-she-models-bikinis-on-the-beach-in-st-barts-815137.jpg Havi…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/16 06:16 AM
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In a comment chain in which we are discussing whether or not a parent comment is dismissive of the human need for intimacy or a sensible critique of an obsessive behavior, yes, your long tangent about what feminists and bluepillers supposedly do is an irrelevant strawman response. Do you know how reddit works?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/16 06:01 AM
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Feminists and BPs always want to frame any low value man that wants intimacy or sex as some sort neurotic rapist waiting to happen. The reality is he's just low value and lacks the tools necessary to make intimacy happen even if he desires it just as much as any Chad. Women don't give a fuck about Chad's entitlement because he has what they want. But some loser suggests he's deserving of love and intimacy? What a fucking entitled creep. giving the impression of refuting an opponent's argument, w…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/16 03:49 AM
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The point is the desire is not the problem. It's not. Having said desire take over every interpersonal interaction is. Regardless of who you are or what it is, obsession is unhealthy. all dat strawmen I'm not gonna address it, but keep playing with yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/16 03:38 AM
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You can replace everything I said word for word with "having children" and it would mean the exact same thing. Extremism of that sort is unhealthy period.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/16 03:27 AM
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Not the same thing. Example: I want a bowling buddy. It's one thing to be on the look out and another to judge every person I socialize with in terms of their ability to meet my bowling needs. I think the latter is some what indicative of a deeper personal problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/16 03:12 AM
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My minimum standard is Bradley Cooper or Chris Pratt. My struggles are real. Your argument is bad even for a supporter of "incel". That's saying something.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/16 08:19 AM
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Ironically, you seem to be the only one making demands in this thread, with a bunch of women trying to meet them. What makes you worth what you demand?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/16 08:12 AM
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'I find myself leaning far closer to RP' much much far closer. As I've said, if you weren't a hippie, you would be RP. Their militant attitude do not appeal to you because you fancy yourself an open-minded free spirit (you're not really either, tbh. You're rigid in your own way). I get that this is your way of being like 'my posts are great and he just doesn't get it because secretly he's RP'. Nope, sorry, your posts just don't do anything for me. I don't especially care what you think because y…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 10:28 PM
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No, negging and dread game rely on the subject not being aware of what is happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 10:19 PM
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No argument made, just more empty words
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 10:17 PM
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Since when do RP men "prey" on women? It's predatory because it's exploitative. we give them the option to take us or leave us. No, negging and dread game are the exact opposite of being upfront.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 10:16 PM
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That depends. Some people neg to get laid. Still doesn't make it not manipulation. Again, not all flirting is manipulation, but negging is. (inb4 all flirting is manipulation) Dread Game is is being attractive and having options. Dread game Dread Game: To purposely set out to create an appearance that you would or could cheat on and/or dump your partner, unless they comply with your demands. That is manipulation.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 10:14 PM
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Great, you can search wikipedia. What is the purpose of it It's the definition of negging? You asked for it, I gave it to you. My example is supposed to be a backhanded insult to make you feel bad about yourself. (that's what negging is) Looks like it worked. How is dread game controlling a woman's actions? You're exploiting her insecurities for personal gain. In your case, you want to use it to make your wife stay. The wife says "I'm not happy in this relationship. If you continue on like this,…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 10:06 PM
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Nah, mate. I've spoken with you before. You lean really heavy RP, you just don't see it. You would be classic RP if you were slightly less of a hippie. You want nuance, but you only accept it on your own terms (which really isn't nuance).
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 09:58 PM
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How is having social skills not "manipulating" people? Social skills means anything that facilitates communication. Waiting your turn in a conversation is social skills. Everyone does it. Everyone is aware of it. It makes interpersonal interactions easier. It's not artful, unfair or insidious. Have you ever listened to a good speech and seen how it affects people, changes opinions of groups? Political answers? Powertalk? Intimidation? Persuasion? That depends. Most people are aware of those. Mos…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 09:40 PM
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Negging = playful teasing. No it isn't. If you can't see the problem with dread game, I'm not going to bother explaining. People like you obviously don't give a rat's ass about how happy these people are or if they are ever get laid, so I don't see how you can reasonable expect them not to do shit that hurts your feelings when you seem to think it's okay not to care about theirs. It's one thing to be apathetic to someone else' struggles and another to be actively harming someone. Also, you don't…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 09:35 PM
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What exactly do you think negging is? negging. Deliberately making a backhanded comment to lower someone's self confidence. For example: I'm sure your wife's desire to leave you had nothing to do with you as a person. I'm asking I should put her feelings above literally everything else in my life and my children's lives. You shouldn't do dread game not because it hurts her feelings. You shouldn't do dread game because it undermines her decision as a person. You have no right to cheat your way in…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 09:25 PM
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they're just agents in an environment that you wish to manipulate towards your own goals, ergo, becoming objects. No, hurting other people for your own personal gain is still wrong. Why wouldn't I be alive? You've lived at the mercy of others. Had they all been as much of a psychopath as you, you would not be here. You depend heavily on others' altruism (i.e. their ability to see you as more than an object to manipulate for their own goals), though you don't seem to realize it. Yes, but so do ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 09:07 PM
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TIL manners and people who teach them are evil manipulators. No, being nice is not artful, unfair, or insidious. I mean by your logic, having "social skills" is manipulating people. Again, social skills are not artful, unfair, or insidious. Social skills are not art, social skills are the bare minimum. the rest so much strawmen. What do I do with all this straw?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 08:49 PM
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well at this point i have to assume you are misunderstanding me on purpose. Luckily it's not MY perception, and it's not what I described at all. No, you don't understand the implications of your own argument. Conversely, you seem to think that as soon as two people meet, they will both know permanently whether they want to have sex with the other. Not what I said If either one of them decides that they DO (usually this is the default position for the man) then they will take active measures to …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 08:44 PM
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You are an agent acting in an environment, acting to maximize some goal state. Yes, but I recognize other people as people, not objects. Most humans agree. If everyone thought like you, you wouldn't be alive right now. Morality is dependent on the individual's perspective, my morality claims it's not immoral, and thusly, I see myself as a perfectly moral being. I'm sure plenty of serial killers, rapists and thieves also think that way. Their actions are still immoral in the context of the larger…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 08:27 PM
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It's not a light banter when it's meant to hurt someone. It is decidedly not "good-humored". It's not called negging otherwise. Wouldn't it be immoral to prioritize her feelings when her actions could destroy my life No, she has a right to leave you and you have the right to leave her. negatively affect the lives of our children? Says you. Seems like she thinks otherwise. You don't have the ultimate authority over that. They might be better off without you in their lives at all. It's not for you…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 08:14 PM
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The majority of social interaction is manipulative. Only for you, because you think Everyone who is not ourselves is an object that we use for our gain. Which makes you a terrible person. Firstly, that depends on your morality, and to me that isn't 'wrong'. No, that is immoral. This isn't a morally gray area. Harming someone for your own personal gains is immoral, just like stealing, robbing, or murder. every action has potential negative consequences That's not why it is immoral. negging isn't …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 08:06 PM
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You seem to think my model describes a situation where women have a "price" that men have to meet in order to get laid. Because that's exactly what you are saying. there's no telling how many hoops he must jump through There's a deal to be made. Sex isn't earned. Some people just aren't interested in you, and no matter how long you "wait" or how much you harass them, the answer will always be no. The same people might see someone else and be immediately interested and pursue them. As I've said t…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 07:56 PM
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Human behavior is manipulative. Some are, yes. Life isn't fair. No, it isn't. But that's not what we are discussing. It's not inherently 'wrong'. Harming someone for personal gains is immoral.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 07:10 PM
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It's still not "earned". Earned means you worked to have the right to something in return. You don't always get sex. Nor should you feel obligated to have sex with someone just because of something they did. It's an inaccurate model that feeds resentment and entitlement. Don't think of it as "earned". Sex is consented to. Either party can call it off whenever they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 07:08 PM
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Not from BP/feminists. Sex isn't "earned", paraphrase that how you want. That's the whole idea behind consent. Sex depends on consent, which is freely given. It's not a transaction. (Unless the individual is selling sex, then yes, it is a business transaction).
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 06:27 PM
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Manipulate. I'm gonna use 2b, because we're talking about abusive manipulation in a social context. to control or play upon by artful, unfair, or insidious means especially to one's own advantage Negging is manipulative. Dread game is manipulative. Both of those have harmful side effect to the victim (lower self-esteem, greater insecurity) and are done for the personal gains of the perpetrator. would be agreed upon by normal people in the wild. There are a lot of sexists in the wild.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 06:24 PM
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And he directly said You don't build up sex points and cash them in for Sex when you have enough. That's not how it works. Let's just ask him. Yo /u/dstoo, is sex earned? Also, are you a feminist?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 06:13 PM
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He specifically said: You don't build up sex points and cash them in for Sex when you have enough. That's not how it works. He's also not BP. He might be a feminist, though, so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt on that side. But nonetheless, sex isn't "earned", nobody said that it was "earned".
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 06:06 PM
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"be nice, be yourself, go out there and earn sex, go out there and do nice things so you can qualify for sex." Nobody says this. Sex isn't "earned". (Exception: Prostitution)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 05:51 PM
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I find it distasteful to declare that your gender is not lesser Yeah? Well, get used to it. We don't throw heavy rocks to kill animals anymore You are enjoying the contributions of men And you are enjoying the contributions of women. I feel sorry for your mother. Plus, those women rarely called themselves feminists and would be ashamed to be the complaining feminists of this age. They actually fought and practiced to earn the respects of men to get where they want to be. The strong women never n…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 09:03 AM
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Human beings are sexual beings, to disregard that biological and personal fundamental is inherently dehumanizing. You can respect someone's sexuality without wanting to fuck them Treating a guy like a eunuch eunuchs are human beings too expecting/demanding him to act like a eunuch Nobody does this. Asking someone to respect your boundaries is the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 08:55 AM
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They do get hauled in to HR on charges of sex harassment. Well, you shouldn't be doing that at work. Ask people out on your own time.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 08:45 AM
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I think half of the nice guy syndrome comes from parents of boys enabling shitty behaviors. Girls are held to ridiculous standards when it comes to inter-personal relations. I think it's time boys are too. http://slatestarcodex.com/2014/08/31/radicalizing-the-romanceless/ I don't agree with his analogy. The point of a capitalist system is that you are paid for your work. People can't whimsically decide when to reward you with money. You are owed money for your hard work. The fact that the man is…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 08:37 AM
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It's like behaving like a normal person.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 08:09 AM
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Feminism clearly didn't teach you anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 07:59 AM
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We must think supporting role isn't valuable, or else we'd take it? Yes. Put your money where your mouth is and do some supporting. And frankly, you don't see RP advocating that either. They pointedly say women have very little contributions and that women's role require very little mental ability or emotional maturity, which, quite honestly, makes it sound like the perfect job for your average redpiller. Again this is feminism seeking fairness through equal roles and outcomes, seeking women to …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 04:29 AM
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Women aren't lesser. There are women in basically every industry, every level of government. They lead some of the most powerful nations on earth. We would not be enjoying their contributions had they not been given the equality that feminists have fought for.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 04:25 AM
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Which they do. Lol, <citation needed>. No, RP field reports don't count. Ever met a liar on the internet?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 04:22 AM
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If I showed you studies that show a loss of ability to pair bond for promiscuous women you would just ignore it, question its validity/ methods, etc. Only if it's questionable. What about studies that show women are the primary slut shamers? Women interact more with other women. Internalized misogyny is rampant amongst women. I don't see what this has to do with anything. Mine, and the vast majority of guys. Ignore it all you want. Doesn't change a thing. And it doesn't prove you are right. Sinc…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 04:20 AM
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they have a bunch of weird silly lingos co-opted from a bunch of other places. Just like their whole movement is a re-vitalization of age old patriarchal ideals. Originality isn't their strong point.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 04:12 AM
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No, dark triad is some men. Not all men. Not even most.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 04:10 AM
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The hypothetical situation didn't specify. Not all sex is consensual. I like being clear, I like stating my assumptions. Besides, I'm finding it hard to imagine a world where celebrities would consensually have sex with a creep like me or a kid like you. It took me a few extra seconds to write, and you're still here obsessing over it. Why so obsessed?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 06:47 AM
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Incorrect; many Swifties consider him the best of her exes Pretty sure that's Lautner, and the youtube + facebook comments say otherwise. Things have calmed down a lot, but she has said some pretty scathing stuff about him at awards and interviews. Doesn't seem unreasonable, considering all the cheating rumors going around.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 06:27 AM
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And again, RP extensively discusses what it means to be a desirable man, how to not be an undesirable man, how to be alpha, how to not be beta, etc, etc. You'd think they would come across AMALT if all of you are saying it's so "obvious". You know, RP does generalize men. Just not in the context of being a slave to his biological drive. It's usually something about how wonderful and logical and mature men are, capable of (real) love and sacrifice, unlike those traitorous bitches.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 05:47 AM
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Lol, RP/Manosphere has been anything but implicit with any of the issues they've dealt with. Why would they start now? And why is it so hard for you to admit your cult has a seriously huge bias? For how much longer are you gonna keep hamstering?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 05:44 AM
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Calling me kiddo doesn't make you more right, sport. And yet, you still haven't provided a source, champ. You can keep spouting bullshit. I'll respond seriously when you have a scientific source on why it's literally "bad" to commit to "sluts". Until then, it's just your personal preference. And no you cannot use Dr. Dre. Dr. Dre is neither a doctor nor a scientist and thus not a credible source of information. Most people learn this in grammar school.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 05:41 AM
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Yeah, but they are guys. If RP is supposedly about self improvement like people have been trying to convince me, I should think men ought to be an integral part of their understanding. If it's not about self improvement, then men are half of their equation. Understanding yourself is just as important as understanding your partner. And don't tell me RP never talks about men. I've seen huge threads about what it means to be alpha, what is the most alpha career, what is the most alpha bf%, what is …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 05:34 AM
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Yes, but they have never discussed AMALT. Imo, RP is an outdated notion that puts women and men in rigid societal roles. RPers like it because they have no social skills and can't function without an authority figure, so they cling to old rules. This also shifts the issue from RPer's lack of social skills onto others (society, feminism, etc)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 05:25 AM
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No, he said: it is a radical notion - disagree, this misogynistic idea is not revolutionary. It's as old as time. it thinks women are people, and that's why people hate it - disagree, it thinks women are lesser, and that's why people hate it. He is implying that we do not see women as people until RP's "radical" notion introduced it to us. I say that RP's outdated sexist idea is neither new nor does it see women as equal human beings. Learn to read.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 05:19 AM
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If all men are as like that as women are, why would they mention one but not the other? Or are you implying that all men are more like that then women are?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 05:15 AM
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Two different situations, two different clarifications.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 05:12 AM
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but just wanted to point out that men are also somewhat reduced to biological instincts And it's never mentioned in the RP narrative. AMALT simply isn't a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 01:59 AM
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"Women perform mate retention to reduce the risk of their partner’s infidelity (Buss, 1988; Buss & Shackelford, 1997). " And men do not? People only THINK that we did. Yes, but that is in the past tense. People think you used to have sex with her. this is because of her lyrics This is because she said he was a jerk. Nobody is pissy with Taylor Lautner. Badge of honor, women pre-select, yada yada. Celebrities aren't treated as normal people. They're on a huge pedestal. Any sort of approval you wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 01:49 AM
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Feminism does this by lowering the VALUE of the female role down to nothing. Not true. Third wave is basically about redefining femininity for yourself, whether it is a housewife or a careerwoman. Furthermore, if men thought the female role was so valuable, there would not be such a huge stigma against men who took on the female role. you don't understand what this means. No, mate, I really do. Good for RPW, I'm glad they found something they like. The supporting role is very valuable. But it de…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 01:37 AM
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They are most certainly a bad choice for LTR or if you want to have kids. Promiscuity is not bad for a man, but it is for a woman. again, <citation needed>. Saying sweeping statements don't make them true, kiddo. Men don't want to commit to sluts Nah, you don't want to commit to "sluts" you can shame us all you want Deep breaths. Nobody is shaming you for having a preference. Everything is gonna be okay. You need to be honest with yourself. Without evidence, those are just your personal preferen…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 01:12 AM
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male jealousy is always dangerous. Female jealousy is overall helpful for a relationship (hence light dread game). In what way is male jealousy unlike female jealousy? this was not part of the equation. you simply said that people would THINK that I slept with her. Yeah, past tense. She clearly does not sleep with you anymore. Probably for a reason. you are making a false equivalency between men and women. No, you have some seriously weird ideas about men and women. Every hardcore Swiftie thinks…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 12:43 AM
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No, Red Pill is the traditional, outdated notion that women are lesser, and that's why people hate it. Supporting evidence: Captain + first mate dynamic Promiscuity (plate spinning) is good for men, but promiscuity (cock carousel) is bad for women AWALT, aka, all women are reduced to biological instincts/fucking whores. or something. It really depends on how hard he's hamstering. Women are teenagers who will hit a wall and men are creatures of pure logic who will age like fine wine (blech)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 12:27 AM
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and it would definitely help a man if women were trying to measure up to a supermodel. How would that be a good thing? Imo, isn't that just a lot more unnecessary pressure? Besides, Kate Upton rejected you for a reason. You're the guy who used to date Kate Upton. I can't imagine being a celebrity's ex be a good thing. It wouldn't be a particularly bad thing either, but it wouldn't be a good thing. I suppose fans of that celebrity would see it as a way of knowing said celebrity better. I don't th…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 12:14 AM
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Sticking a fork in a light socket is bad, because it's bad for the person doing it. Completely irrelevant analogy Being promiscuous is bad for women, and harmless for me. <citation needed> DARVO. facts
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 12:05 AM
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They are simply a bad choice No, they are not a "bad choice", they are just not what you want. I didn't say "if you think sluts are evil", I said "if you think promiscuity is bad", which you do. Example: "Being a slut is to relationships like "not showering" is to sex." You are a hypocrite because you criticize others for being promiscuous while being promiscuous yourself. Men speak angrily about sluts when someone has morally demanded they commit to them. Men speak angrily about "sluts" because…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 11:53 PM
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I meant that she doesn't feel bad about it, at least not as much as if she got explicitly rejected. That depends on the person. Personally, I rather know than wonder what ifs. The real reason women are discouraged from pursuing men first is because the sexist patriarchal societal expectations that has existed for hundreds of years is taking a while to die. (case in point: RP)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 11:29 PM
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There is nothing wrong with having a preference (as I've explained to the OP). However, if you think promiscuity is "bad", judge people for it, but engage in promiscuous activities yourself, then you are a hypocrite. Likewise, if you think being fat is immoral, shame fat people, demand a thin partner, but are overweight, then you are a hypocrite. Being tall or having a penis are not activities people engage in and are not (normally) subjected to a moral code. Most women don't think having a vagi…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 11:21 PM
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You want the latter, and only the latter, to stop. Where did I say that? Also, as I've explained, the first is not hypocrisy, because beauty is subjective. I do not sign moral contracts Then don't. My morality is not open for negotiations. Aside from that, I don't care what you do with your life dude. Get over yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 10:48 PM
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if he never approaches her, it's no biggie No, there is still an opportunity cost. It's an interesting problem, and it's been modeled in algorithms. Look up stable marriage problem. The fact is that the pursuer in these models get the best possible outcome. Historically, I think women have been discouraged from pursuing men because they used to be properties of their fathers and generally had very little freedom. We're still seeing that trend slowly die off. Slut-shaming doesn't help.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 09:59 PM
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What has that got to do with the discussion? OP asked why is it considered hypocritical, and I explained. What the fuck are you on?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 09:51 PM
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I think he needs to know when she's faking it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 09:42 PM
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beauty is subjective, "chastity" is not
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 09:37 PM
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Then talk to middle aged people, they tend to be more psyched about it. Boomers never get used to it, gen Y take it for granted. It's gen X that has truly lived both with and without the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 09:27 PM
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Blue pillers seemed really hostile though because they get a lot of trolls
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 05:24 PM
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why is it wrong for men to be really picky? It's not. Why do you think it is? There is nothing wrong with being picky. BP's issue was never about "picky" guys. People might snicker at unrealistic standards, but that's really more of a general thing which happen to women too. Not so much unique to BP. I mean guys who are promiscuous but still want a virgin. No issue with that. If that's what they want, by all means, keep looking. Just leave out all the bullshit about "pair-bonding", "targets and …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 05:11 PM
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Why is it wrong for a man to only go after women much more attractive then him, and only want to date women have little or no sexual experience even if he is very experienced sexually and not very attractive? Is it? Why is it considered hypocritical for men (who are average and have sexual experience) to use the ratio in their favor and only consider dating women who are above average and have no sexual experience Only if he is holding her to a (moral) standard to which he himself does not confo…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 04:59 PM
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That's pretty sad, mate. Sounds like the opposite of self-improvement and happy people.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 04:46 PM
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All these women you encourage RP dudes to abuse are real. There's no matrix, only real people. Leave the cult whenever you feel ready, buddy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 04:30 PM
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Do you talk to a lot of young people? I mean, older folks love to talk about how internet is ruining society, kids don't play outside anymore, etc, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 04:27 PM
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No worries, mate. That's what I'm here for: to give you perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 04:17 PM
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secretly have sex with a gorgeous celebrity of your choice and no one will ever find out or have everyone think you had sex with said gorgeous celebrity even though you didn’t and never will? Neither? If I have to pick... assuming the sex is consensual, I think the first would be the lesser of two evils. It would really suck for a celeb to have to deal with that kind of rumor. have sex with two 7s or have sex with one 10? (In b4 'There's no such thing as a 10', substitute 'That Girl', you know t…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 04:10 PM
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Your normal "plugged in" people are happy living as they are. That's why they don't seek out the "red pill" and join a cult-ish community where they can avoid facing real problems and instead blame the rest of the world for being "plugged in" and being mad and shit. All this talk is useless, just look at the two different groups. One is normal people. The other is angry, self-absorbed people, blaming women for their shortcomings, learning abusive techniques to manipulate the unlucky women in the…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 04:00 PM
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To go from near-zero to 100,000 in a handful of years is impressive and notable. it's not all a numbers game when the masses are acting very convincingly like morons. dat goal post move doe
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 03:38 PM
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Because RP uses it to uphold pre-existing sexist ideas about how women must act (subservient to a man).
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/15 01:32 AM
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Never in the original text. "While RP has given in to selfishness, fear and cynicism, BP are still altruistic and optimistic. This can be seen in the way that BP overwhelmingly volunteer and help the less fortunate, unlike RP (You started that thread a few days back). " What is never in the original text? Very few men are feminists so the action is the most dubious part. Besides the point. Very few women are RPW as well. You wouldn't know the motives of feminists if it gave you a prostate massag…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/15 01:30 AM
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You don't have to be superior to have hierarchy. That's right. Very good. I am only concerned when hierarchies are built on the idea of one gender being superior. That's not all hierarchies, which is why I don't reject hierarchy in all human relations as inherently oppressive.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/15 01:25 AM
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my ability to critically think about an argument and express my views Then why don't you start using that ability.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/15 01:22 AM
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So when men commit suicide however more times than women and receive far less funding for mental health treatment, that's because men hate women right? Institutional discrimination is not "hate women". You are so full of shitty strawmen I don't know where to begin. Men received less funding for mental health because they are less likely to reach out for help. They are more likely to bottle their feelings in the false belief that they must be "strong and stoic", which is a patriarchal notion. (Se…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/15 01:18 AM
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So I assume then to be a proper feminist then you must also be an anarchist and reject hierarchy in all human relations as inherently oppressive. No, feminism is only concerned with hierarchies that are maintained on a false belief of one gender being superior over another.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/15 12:38 AM
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Those are ways in which feminism , as made for women with no changes at all, supposedly helps men too. No, those are ways in which feminists have donated their time and/or resources to help men. It's about the action of the individual. Most of them are in it to help women. And most of RP are in it to help men. See? Pretty good comparison.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/15 12:35 AM
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bro all I know since I rushed a frat three years ago is TRP is the reality for fucking What has this got to do with anything? We are talking about whether or not it is justified to feel bitter in the acceptance of RP knowledge.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/15 12:33 AM
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You have a lot of misogynistic pussies who live to serve men in RPW. This is about equivalency, not commentary on the movement.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/15 12:30 AM
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You view all men as your oppressor then? I'm willing to bet they actually don't. I mean, why would oppressors have these problems that are specific to them if they have it so good? Yes, they are a part of a larger system that enforces institutional discrimination. But it doesn't mean that they do not face significant problems of their own or that they do not deserve help. Yeah all those privileged autistic kids, those privileged homeless men, those privileged victims of domestic abuse, those pri…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 07:38 PM
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I'm smarter than you 'course you are, hon. I'm only a cunt to people who deserved to be treated that way. Don't worry, I don't think you're a cunt, just dumb. Intersectionality is an attempt to maintain feminist hegemony over any discussions about privilege. It lacks nuance because it's predicated on originally faulty theory. Nothing that comes from feminism will ever be nuanced, because the core of feminism lacks nuance. Sigh. Again with the feminism paranoia (and nuance obsession) I'll respond…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 07:15 PM
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I can and I will. You can't stop believing in rape culture just because you disagree worth the person bringing it up. I can and I will. If I am going to work in the redpill paradigm to prove a flaw in their system, I am going to follow their ideas and assumptions. There are many ways to disprove a theory, some of them involve adopting the assumptions and pointing out a contradiction. Are they not equal? No, because the captain has more power. It's a hierarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 07:08 PM
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why would I actually give a fuck what you think I'm not the one responding. It's time for you to look deep within yourself to find out. Because your ideas are simplistic trash lol. Does it help you to call them that, so you wouldn't have to actually think about it? I don't know what to say. Then don't say anything at all. It will make you seem less stupid. So I'm right when I say that the girl never even wanted to think that the guy might be interested in the first place? The general level of ap…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 06:58 PM
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Uhh, what? Did you not read the thread where the OP asked BP feminist to list the ways they've helped men and RP mra to list the ways they've helped women? I mean, that was a key point in my post. Dude, are you even reading this shit? Every married one or one in an LTR, plus we have redpillwomen. A lot of BP are also married to men, plus we have male feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 06:28 PM
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The thread isn't about volunteering in general, it's about volunteering to help the opposite sex. That's right, or this thought exercise wouldn't work. More specifically, it is about feminists BP who help men and mra RP who help women. Now, when you recount the number of women volunteering to specifically help men's issues the number drops dramatically. They definitely aren't holding a grudge against these men, though. They are happy to help their perceived oppressors. The thread isn't asking wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 06:24 PM
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You can't use rape culture when you don't buy into gender equality. They're a package deal. If you think women are "first mate" to a man's "captain" and that relationships are a chain of command, it is hypocritical to give yourself exceptions when it suits you. That's some seriously weak reasoning.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 05:28 PM
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Anyone who thinks blue pill is altruistic has never disagreed with them on a major topic. If you really want an altruistic group, take a look at the senior members of /r/TheRedPill. I spent hours PMing back and forth with some seventeen year old This is not the place to critique a movement or promote homosexuality. You have every other thread to do that. This is a thought exercise, we are not arguing who is right or who is wrong. Shift away from inter-movement conflicts and the whole "How can u …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 05:24 PM
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When your opinions have a little bit of nuance and evidence of deeper thought and analysis you get to be a cunt So why are you a cunt? You just spent three paragraphs complaining about feminism without addressing any of its ideas. You keep going on about "nuance" and "deep". Do you know what those words actually mean? You know, people wouldn't make fun of you if you didn't act like such a retard. Let's go back to the point I was making. I will flesh it out so it is easier for you to digest: Inte…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 05:13 PM
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It is though, you are the first person to ever have a go at me for it, so clearly I'm not struggling that much. Maybe people are too polite to point it out. Didn't you call me a "tosser" earlier? How about this, when you can communicate ideas as clearly as I can, you will be allowed to name call. Until that point, all your effort should honestly be put into improving. And the girl doesn't need to make her feelings clear? She did. She is operating as a friend, because she believes their relations…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 04:54 PM
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I've been there and done that myself. Have you? I have, actually. Research is pretty shit pay. A good "salary" as a PhD student is ~$30k which is really shit. (look it up on glassdoor, mine has included my region and I don't want to share that). Student researchers outnumber faculty in almost every research group. Ergo, PhDs do more than half the ground work, and is paid very little. Then why hasn't someone at a university invented one - even an ugly one - decades ago? They have, it's just never…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 04:06 PM
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Social science is what BPers demand as "proof" here. Well, if you're going to make outrageous claims about a whole group of people, you should at least back it up with a semi-decent source. Just like someone calling themselves octupus_sushi on the internet, who doesn't call themselves a scientist, is a totally legitimate source of how the politics of science work. Nice ad hominem. Sure showed me. If only you could channel that towards responding to my arguments, tho... (I have no idea who you ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 03:35 PM
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It's not like a female dummy was proposed but then rejected by misogynistic evil engineers, no. It just wasn't there. Which is the problem. I want a couple of women there to remind everyone about the other half of the world population. No, you shouldn't. Yah, I should. You know why? Because I'm paying for it. I want my money's worth of products tailored to my needs. I will tell all the other women too, and together, we will get our money's worth of STEM products, engineered by people who will co…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 03:30 PM
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It's probably a shit test. Is it really a request if you won't say no?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 02:53 PM
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No, the test doesn't show anything. It shows how it used to be long time ago. It was new and they made a mistake. Shit happens. The requirement was changed in 2011 to include small female test dummies. That's not "a long time ago". That's very recent. There are still cars in circulation that are not designed for women's safety. What I am saying is the way it SHOULD be. And it SHOULD be for people who are the best in the job, REGARDLESS of their sex. I think I repeated it like what 3 times alread…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 02:50 PM
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No, it fits into the comparison perfectly. RP thinks feminists are making life worse for men, and feminists think RP (and the larger patriarchal system it is part of) is making life worse for women (and men). We are not arguing about either side, we are seeing what people do according to perceived mistreatment (real or not). Many BPers are still willing to help men (e.g. donating to men's charities), while RP is holding a grudge (i.e. being bitter). Do the thought exercise please.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 02:06 PM
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Was there a poll taken or was it more the case that people who volunteered were always going to be the ones who said that they did? There aren't a lot of BP on here. 15 is like over 50% (according to mbti thread, BP is approx 1/5 of 90 engaging posters, maybe 1/4 if you count the ones under black or no flair). There weren't any serious RP responses, although RP accounts for almost half of this board. is (again) just an incredibly simplistic viewpoint, void of nuance and deeper thought. Right, so…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 01:55 PM
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I think, to know the answer to this thought exercise, you can consider for a moment, the way the world looks to your presumed feminist bluepiller. (Yes, not all BP is feminist nor activist. But for a moment, let's try to walk in the shoes of a BP feminist). While RP says the world is gynocentric, BP says the world is patriarchal. While RP says the odds are stacked against men, BP says the odds are stacked against women. However, unlike RP, which has resorted to tactics that borderline abuse and …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 07:17 AM
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You can just conduct a survey or hire a couple that will give their perspective and what women need. No, you need women there to challenge the internal bias all people have every step of development. For example, the bias of the male crash dummy. You surely don't expect 50% of STEM workers to be women No, I expect enough to stop the male slant that all things tech currently have. Ok, so you need some women in sales? Sales are sales. It is not related to STEM degrees. No, I need women in engineer…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 07:00 AM
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No, the rest is NOT assumed to be for men. Yes it is, unfortunately. The case of the male test dummies shows that. The automatic assumption that the default model is a man, because there is no diversity. Shoving all the women in one "for women" office is not going to fix things in the long run. I don't think you know what you are talking about. I don't think you know how analogies work. Classical physics works for more than 50% of the cases you will encounter in life. The male dummy "works" for …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 06:38 AM
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1 office responsible for sales to women Why not the rest of it? Why is there 1 office responsible for sales to women? Why not a more holistic approach where the dominant space isn't assumed to be for men. The truth is, STEM works and works good now, not having 50% of women there. So, that itself shows that it DOES NOT NEED women to work. Right. You're one for innovation. You know what works? Classical mechanics. I'm sure people thought physics works good back then, outside of dealing with very s…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 05:35 AM
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That's not how the chain of command works. First mates don't give orders to the captain.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 05:11 AM
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Also, in your other reply you said something about their perspective because they sell stuff to women as well. Well, guess what, that's not what they teach in STEM programs Perspective isn't taught in most majors, unfortunately. It is something you grow up with. Having more women who can work and design tech that will suit women is useful for women. It's also good for economic reasons. There - no one cares about anyone's opinion, it's all about scientific method and logic. No, lol. If you want t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 05:08 AM
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People don't die from not applying for STEM degrees, they don't die from not having role models there etc etc etc. Still, when you someone wants equality they mention those things. So what's your point? As I've mentioned in my other reply to you, having women in the STEM industry is as much in the industry's interest. Another cool tidbit, since you say that women don't die from not being represented in STEM. Did you know, for a long time, they used crash test dummies that were the size and shape…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 01:50 AM
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In science no one's voice or opinion matters. It's about logics and science, you know what STEM stands for, right? We're talking about companies. Industries. Shit that makes money. The main job of the STEM industry is to apply existing science to help people. It is as much about technical skill as it is about knowing your market. Half of the human population is female. Of course having women who can represent the opinion and needs of other women matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 01:33 AM
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I'm very very clearly saying that I would accept a few people being mean to me if it meant that I could get better treatment overall. So you meant "along with" (Which is not the same as "in exchange for"). See? Was it so hard to just clarify? My english may not be fantastic Your english doesn't need to be fantastic. It needs to be legible and clear, which it currently isn't. Name calling and swearing definitely isn't going to help. Were they? If they were acting so nice and subservient are they …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 01:27 AM
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But how can you be the "captain" if your "first mate" is taking the lead?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 12:28 AM
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Rape culture is about the normalization of sexual violence, which includes rape. Slut shaming is about the way society puts down promiscuous women, i.e. calling them "slut". I have never heard of "stare rape". But in general, these names have meanings. They are named after the phenomenon they describe. If dread game is not really about dread, then it's just false advertising. What does it say about the maturity level of your user base when you need to dress basic self-improvement with a "cool" n…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 12:25 AM
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It's the same thing lmao. No, "in exchange for" is not equivalent to "along with". Different meaning. "In exchange for" means you get one and lose one, like a trade. "Along with" means you get both. You need to work on your english along with basic logic (See, it means both your english and logic needs work). When they get mad it's pretty much just because they're frustrated that the girl doesn't like them back They should not have been pretending to be her friend in the first place. They are an…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/15 02:56 PM
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That's literally what I said but I'd take the better treatment for people I don't even like being mean to me when they don't get their way in a heartbeat. So you would take the better treatment in exchange for people you don't even like being mean to you when they don't get their way? Or you would take the better treatment along with people you don't like being mean to you when they don't get their way? I'm just trying to interpret your sentence in a way that it makes sense. Make yourself clear …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/15 01:39 PM
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when I tell most people that science is biased It mostly isn't. The stuff that goes in textbooks are generally about as objective as anything gets. Research science is somewhat subjected to human biases (but so is everything). Most people don't get to see the research side of things anyway. And the "bias" is just in terms of what kind of research gets funded (This same bias exists everywhere). Inaccurate science are not published. Most liberals do not understand conservative views. Hard to belie…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/15 01:20 PM
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No. That's incorrect. Those academics in universities stay there because it's a cushy government or pseudo-government job, e.g. tenure. Many faculty positions do not have tenure. For most, it's a long hard climb up the ladder, with a lot of work being done by PhD students who are underpaid. heavy lifting in useful innovation has come from the private sector Those are the things people will pay for, hence well funded enough to exist without government assistance. That stuff is built on the ideas …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/15 01:03 PM
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On your tldr; he is at great risk of being cast out of the game of life early due to false rape accusations Very rare, very hard to prosecute. An Alpha Bucks is actually only the equal of an average to above average SMV . I think peak SMV women are the most powerful people in the world. Frankly untrue. You have no idea how the world works if you actually believe this. Angelina Jolie, Adriana Lima, and Beyonce are just puppets of their industry. They are given a platform because of the money they…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/15 11:01 AM
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people I don't even like being mean to me when they don't get their way in a heartbeat Which is what women go through. What are you on? Have you seen nice guy <sup>tm</sup> losing their shit when they realize they've been "friendzoned"? (Which is a bullshit concept, if you don't want to be her friend, don't pretend to be her friend while holding a grudge against her for not having sex with you) it's because they're bitter about the power you have over them and society. And what power is that, ex…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/15 04:46 AM
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If the first company doesn't have bad inventions but knows that they suck and take customers' money without clearly telling them that they suck... I would despise them almost as much as the scam company. But no one is going to tell you they suck, especially not in the world of entrepreneurship. Most people don't believe that they suck, but a lot of people will fail at running a startup (Similarly, the majority of relationships fail). Even if they are bad and will lose your money if you invest in…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/15 10:44 AM
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Working with this analogy, I'd say it would be purposefully poisoning someone's food versus cooking a dish with mushrooms you are not sure about whether they are poisonous or not. The good ones look very similar to the dangerous ones and you know that. You just hope that you picked the right ones. Maybe you were thinking of something like this example in your comment.. Just wanted to say that being completely oblivious of possible danger of food poisoning when cooking something would be differen…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/15 08:37 AM
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Is purposefully poisoning someone's food not morally better than accidentally doing it? I might not trust someone who has accidentally killed a person through food poisoning to cook for me, but I would not trust someone who has committed murder to be anywhere near me. Intentions matter because they are indicative of future actions. Someone who genuinely gives a relationship a chance may find a great relationship. A liar who is just going to take advantage of people is not going to find a relatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/15 07:36 AM
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Then maybe it's time for you to re-read my post with a more serious and self-reflective lens instead of hamstering it away as "trolling".
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/15 07:22 AM
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From a post-modern perspective, at risk of being a moral guardian, we've lost 3 pillars of traditionalism and old world virtues-religion, marriage, and the nuclear family unit. What makes you think that's a bad thing? I say it's good that we no longer follow a weird old book when deciding what is the right thing to do. The world has drastically changed since the days when religion mattered. Most people used to live their whole life in some shitty little hamlet. These days, we can connect with pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/15 07:08 AM
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Oh kids these days. Back when I was growing up, trolling took actual skill. They used to start multi-forum flame wars and got senior members banned. Nowadays, it's just anything people disagree with.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/15 06:30 AM
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the highlights you pasted are exactly what Haidt was pointing out - generalizations designed to adhere to the author's pre-existing beliefs A very convenient way of dismissing criticism. "The views you express are designed to adhere to your pre-existing beliefs". You don't say. Once again, "I predicted you would say this!" is not a legitimate counterargument. Try again. It's widely known that universities are dominated by liberals. Yes, that was the point I was trying to make. Don't you think th…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/15 06:22 AM
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ignores all the points attacks irrelevant semantics You've done this twice now. Which field of science do you work in, exactly? I want to know which one is endorsing this sad excuse of an academic. I disagree with Haidt's premise that liberals do not understand conservative views. As someone who used to lean conservative, I understand, I simply disagree. You refuted by saying that I didn't understand as well as someone who studied the subject, to which I cited similar critiques of his book from …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/15 06:02 AM
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Rape isn't the only way of taking advantage of someone? If you lie about your intentions for your own benefits, you are, by definition, taking advantage of other people's good will and trust. How old are you? Do you interact with other humans on a regular basis? Are you living with autism?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/15 05:48 AM
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It's none of my business whom other people have sex with. If it is a close friend, then, assuming that the guy was unclear about his intentions and took advantage of her, I would be sympathetic. If a close friend of mine was "going down this road", as in, getting involved with a guy who is clearly not that interested (or kind of a jerk), I would politely point it out to them. I have some friends who would usually introduce their bfs to me and ask me for my opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/15 04:13 AM
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So yea...he has a huge huge huge victim complex Damn, no way, I know a couple of guys just like that. They have shit luck with women, and instead of it being their fault (socially awkward, poorly dressed, etc) they've always said it's the "gynocentric" system that's fucked, that women are stupid shallow sluts, sex should be a right, we're all trapped in a feminist matrix, and all that. In my head I'm like "gee ever thought YOU were the problem?" So I actually tell them that. People like that jus…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/15 04:05 AM
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Yet, we should take care in the kind of information we extrapolate from that. We're our own species, after all. Not everything that applies to horses or dogs are going to apply to us.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/15 03:50 AM
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Lol, how about you address my points (namely, all the ones I've made in the second paragraph) instead of hiding behind some bullshit criticism immunity? Here is a critical paper of the book your articles are about, written by another guy who "actually studied all this stuff in a measured fashion". Highlights: These results are misleadingly characterized as suggesting that liberal morality is a partial subset of conservative morality - indeed, he calls liberals "moral monists". A more parsimoniou…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/15 03:48 AM
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No. The right pushed away the academics with their anti-intellectualism. The right has been fighting climate science, atomic physics and evolution for years. That's why universities don't like them anymore. It didn't happen the other way around. The right put too much value on their holy book.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/15 03:28 AM
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I actually did. And of course they would, temporarily. For example, there is great effort in trying to cover up any evidence of climate change. But the truth will come back around in the end. It's only a matter of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/15 03:21 AM
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Wrong. Yeah, that's why college campuses (professors and students alike) are overwhelmingly liberal... right. Because the people who have had the privilege to go furthest in education in our society don't know better than the working class. You’re smart. You’re liberal. You’re well informed. You think conservatives are narrow-minded. You can’t understand why working-class Americans vote Republican. You figure they’re being duped. You’re wrong. Leaning more centrist, actually, but american politi…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/15 03:19 AM
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I'll take that criticism when it comes from someone who is actually understands feminist rhetoric and is part of the community, thanks. If he won't even do that much, I don't see why I should give anything he say much consideration at all, tbh. If you are actually part of feminist circles, you will be well aware of the amount of discussions that happen within it, whether it is about men's issues or domestic violence. I suggest you get yourself informed before falling into the same hole.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/15 02:25 AM
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BPers in particular often have a God-like faith that science is impartial and neutral. No, RP usually the ones citing paper from another species or whatever. It usually ends with both sides spamming papers they got off of google because most people don't have the scientific background to read these papers, much less actual experience in that field. It's no secret that research science is heavily prone to bias in basically any field. For example, the first philosopher to bring up irrational numbe…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/15 01:56 AM
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It's not his place to criticize shit all, seeing as his only contribution is "not raping". If and when he actually starts doing shit, then maybe, just maybe, he can have a say in how things are being done. Besides, he's not criticizing the way things are run, he's criticizing a whole movement based on one cherry picked example that supports his bigotry. Surely even you can see that. Why are you supporting shit-stains like him?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/15 01:44 AM
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See, here's where I think it's hard for women to understand men's trouble in this area. I'll liken it to two people and a car. And your analogy is why I know it's hard for some men to understand women's trouble in this area. A car offers you safety and speedy transportation. Sex does not. While yes, cars have maintenance costs, but its benefits objectively outweighs the negatives by a huge margin, hence a lot of people own (or want to own) cars. Sex, on the other hand, do not have the same objec…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/15 01:29 AM
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No, having only one perspective makes many STEM companies vulnerable and inflexible. Women are less likely to take risks and go bankrupt. While risk-taking has its place in business, it healthier to also have a more fiscally conservative perspective. Having women's voices in a STEM company also makes the company more accessible to women. This enables them to better meet the needs of 50% of the population, tapping into a really big market, even taking into consideration that women typically have …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/15 12:02 AM
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It in terms of decision making (board of directors) it is in their best interest to have a diverse group of people. I mentioned loneliness. You can have sex but still be very lonely. Sex is not the end all for equality. You are lacking in perspective. Sex is not a physiological need, no one has died from lack of sex. People die from lack of water or shelter, not lack of sex. That's not actually a thing. People also become depressed from loneliness and lack of meaningful human interaction, not la…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/15 11:57 PM
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Not all subscribers to PPD are RP or feminist, though. But if it's just RP and feminists, I think feminists will get grossed out and leave, then the remaining RP will hire strippers then post to RP field report about all the women they banged with RP techniques.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/15 09:53 PM
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The very first DV shelter opened in the world was created by a lady who rejects the notion that she is a feminist. In fact she now criticizes them extensively for the harm they have done. Then I guess feminists opened up a bunch of other DV shelters. How exactly is this an argument against my point again? Actually the funds are going from real issues (shelter, Women's rights in 3rd world) to feminists and publicity campaigns (where usually 80% of revenue goes on staff wages). Citation please.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/15 09:14 PM
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No, but it is in STEM's best interest to diversify their industry.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/15 09:10 PM
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IT's about being wanted by a woman and sharing this experience with her, about being connected on a new level. Which is nice and all, but frankly, it's not a right. You can find emotional support from friends and physical comfort from pets, but that's about it. There are equal numbers of lonely and undesirable men and women out there. It's not so much a male problem as it is a general people's problem. Some people are just hard to love, unfortunately.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/15 09:08 PM
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you have sexual value society will treat you better for it No, society will treat you different for it. People pressure you to have sex. In RP's case, they also lie and gaslight to convince you to have sex. The same people will shame you for having sex or criticize you for not having sex. Sure, these people will be "nice" to you. But they're "nice" the same way a car salesman is "nice". It's easy to see that they're acting like that only because they want something from you, and that's a really …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/15 08:50 PM
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Logic still holds. Why is it ok to generalize and say "I'm afraid of Christians" or "I'm afraid of angry white men?" Because they have a lot of power in the US, especially in terms of the legislation that will shut pp down. "negroes and moslems" have very little power in the US. They are disenfranchised groups who face a lot of discrimination. Mass shootings happen plenty in Europe, and the response is generally an armed one. Have you forgotten Paris? That one didn't end with "financial support"…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/15 11:45 AM
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Considering all the programs and help already rendered to women there is no real point Most of which are started and maintained by feminist. Some of that is also disappearing (pp) none of this stuff is verified would this count?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/15 11:28 AM
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Same! Also donated to the people doing movember. I haven't done much otherwise in terms of any activism, though. Pretty busy in other areas of my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/15 11:08 AM
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She and her friends are carouselers, she has lots of sex with different partners, and she gravitates towards the kind of troglodyte wife-beating caveman alpha She had one abusive exbf out of an unknown number of partners. And none of these assumptions (even if true) makes them any less worthy of respect or proper health care. But if you're victimized by one of the many black criminals in this country In the context of this issue, the greatest opponent of pp is white christians. Don't play dumb. …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/15 11:00 AM
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You are not bigoted for not wanting to date anyone. No one is entitled to your sexual attention (just as you are not entitled to anyone's sexual attention). It's not inherently rude of her to state her preference, though it might be kind of tactless, depending on her company. It might not be easy to identify a certain group, but you can always ask. For example, I don't want to date someone who used to be a school bully. It might not be easy to identify someone like this, but by asking them about…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/15 10:18 AM
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I think red pill is better tbh fam
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/15 10:41 PM
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Men don't need to open up more, nor would opening up more actually do anything to make them feel happier Riiight, because depression is cured by bottling your feelings. That's always worked great. it just opens them up for further abuse or further sexual/emotional deprivation Keep it to professionals and counselors if you are that concerned. A man opening up to someone about his lack of sexual intimacy will not be any less depressed about his lack of sexual intimacy. Sure he will. That's how the…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/15 10:38 PM
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Keep hamstering: The more you patronizingly treat women like bratty kid sisters, the more their vaj takes over their critical thinking skills No, women should not be treated like children. "vaj"s do not "take over". Being an arrogant ass also do not affect women's critical thinking skills. It probably affects your critical thinking skills, though. if you are not yet convinced that women are as mere children but only of a larger growth, you would be well advised to treat her as one You shouldn't …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/15 10:29 PM
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Masturbation is not adequate Sexual release for a dude. <citation needed> Blue balls are cured by simply ejaculating. If you have a hormone imbalance, it is more important that you see your doctor. If Masturbation were good enough, no man would hook up or commit to a woman. Masturbation is good enough. Men are, by and large, way too entitled. They're used to getting their way, so they throw a fit when they don't, akin to spoiled children. They act the same way rich kids do on Christmas morning. …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/15 09:57 PM
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Well, yes, if you don't want to date someone... don't. It ain't rocket science. What is inappropriate is being rude about it. For example, I would not date a member of the military. It's one thing to have a preference, and another to be rude to people in the military. I'm sure people in the military would take issue (and rightly so) if I ran a blog saying no self-respecting individual would date someone from the military, or how military men are all violent murders incapable of "pair-bonding". O…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/15 02:11 PM
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It's one thing to not let others affect you and another entirely to "not give a fuck about what women want or think". Besides, he is affected by it. He says so in the second part of his sentence ("beyond how it affects my own comfort and satisfaction")
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/15 08:04 AM
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desired results. which are...? (I'm asking because it varies between RPers)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/15 08:01 AM
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it works Define works
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/15 08:00 AM
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Sounds selfish and narcissistic, which are, interestingly enough, characteristics RP typically ascribes to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/15 07:57 AM
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haha this fucking liberal arts major Electrical Engineering, but I don't see why this should matter. Communication is important for all, and being legible is the first step. http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2014/apr/09/genevieve-wood/what-pay-gap-young-women-out-earn-men-cities-gop-p/ See? Was that so hard? You need to learn to support your own arguments. You'd need excel first and then you could look at the data. using excel Absolutely disgusting. Also, makes fun of liberal arts …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/15 07:29 AM
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luckily for you ok an economics major but just in case That's not a sentence, and your link didn't work. Link an article, preferably a research paper, or you don't have an argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/15 06:53 AM
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women are richer in their twenties than men Source please. I can't say for the explicit 20s range, but Under 65, women have less wealth than men in every category (Never married, married, widowed)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/15 06:43 AM
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Probably because they are usually the sole caregiver. It discusses that on the paper. Being the sole caregiver costs both time and money, often limiting the woman's work prospects. As for being poorer in their 20s, I am guessing that student loans might have something to do with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/15 06:28 AM
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INTJ, blue, unk. Quick rundown of the numbers so far. We have no ESFP or ESFJ. The vast majority seems to be xNTx.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/15 06:20 AM
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Lol, no. If we are using your comparison, my response should be "imagine you have sex". The question is regarding sexual release. Masturbation is a perfectly legitimate way of going about it. How high are you right now?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/15 05:19 AM
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Being deprived of any basic physical/emotional need can lead to all kinds of negative effects. Depression and suicide in men occurs due to their inability to open up and seek mental help because of fucked up societal ideas about how men should act. Sex isn't the only way to fulfill physical and emotional needs. You can buy a pet to hug. You can make friends to form a support network. Depriving someone of social contact is a cruel and unusual punishment, but sex is more than that. No one is entit…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/15 05:07 AM
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They say to themselves "These aren't real human beings. I do NOT believe you view is as sub-human.... But as monsters you can safely mock. You believe that BP views RP as less than human. So much less than human, that they are actually monsters. Adopting your false premise for a second, this is just a matter of degrees. Monsters are not worthy of respect. Monsters are not worthy of consideration. Monsters are not capable of redemption. You need to pass the milestone of sub-human to get into the …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/15 03:42 AM
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women 51% of the population and poorer in almost every situation
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/15 03:01 AM
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Saudi Arabia is a different culture than we have. Religion there, is not like religion here. You don't say. Could it be that it is because they're over there and we're over here?? /r/imciswhitemaleandthisisdeep
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/15 02:49 AM
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It's not illegal. There is no specific law against it. Hence, it is up to the judge to decide. It can range anywhere from the death sentence to no punishment.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/15 02:40 AM
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Trigger warnings all to often turn into censorship. What's wrong with a little censorship? (By which I mean the traditional definition, not government-wide control) You will never remove rape, gore and death from our society. The strongest advocates of trigger warnings (feminists/activists/etc) are also the same people who want to discuss those topics the most (rape/violence/etc). Feminists will never stop talking about rape when it affects so many women. It is so important to the victims to be …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/15 02:37 AM
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Then that's something they need to work on, isn't it? I mean, that, or don't date women whose exes are "alpha". I think the shittiest thing you can do in this situation is to date her and continue to hold a grudge.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/15 02:15 AM
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I think you've misunderstood what this debate is actually about. No, you keep moving goal posts. The original discussion was about victims taking responsibility for their recovery. You've continuously tried to drag the discussion into the realm of "but what about ppl who want to censor all things??" You asked me should triggers apply to academic settings. Yes, why shouldn't they? If a wine tasting class required you to eat a peanut, it's not hard to give people a quick heads up. Obviously, you c…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/15 02:07 AM
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I think your analogy is incredibly insulting to people who are actually dying of thirst. Nobody has ever died from lack of sex. Sex isn't a right, it's a pleasure. Some people have real problems. You need to get a perspective if you think not getting laid is as bad as dying of thirst.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/15 01:38 AM
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Lol, yes there are laws against it. Get out of women's studies for one moment and into the real world. http://www.today.com/id/15836746/ns/today-today_news/t/rape-case-calls-saudi-legal-system-question/#.VlfGFL-LX5S Justice in Saudi Arabia is administered by a system of religious courts according to the kingdom’s strict interpretation of Islamic Sharia law. Judges — appointed by the king on the recommendation of the Supreme Judicial Council — have complete discretion to set sentences, except in …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/15 03:08 AM
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<citation needed> And before you ask, there has been 84,000 rape cases in the US in 2014, about 3000 of those with a weapon present. http://www.statista.com/statistics/191137/reported-forcible-rape-cases-in-the-usa-since-1990/ I'm sure you know better than the US Department of Justice, which puts rape & sexual assault at 100,000 in 2014. (I'm just kidding I do not think you know better than the US Department of Justice. I think you are pulling facts out of your generous arsehole.)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/15 02:53 AM
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...In America, all crimes are punished according to the decision of the judge. TIL nothing is illegal in America. Lol no, Judges enforce the law. There are no laws against it in SA, so it is entirely up to the discretion of the judges to determine punishment. Yeah... that's some fantastic supporting evidence for what I just said. It's up to you if you want to be purposefully naive. The fact that their royalties are mired in rape scandals and outrageous rape victim rulings keep finding its way ou…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/15 02:09 AM
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No, that's actually illegal. Good thing it rarely ever happens, unlike unreported rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/15 01:58 AM
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they punish rape with corporal punishment or execution They punish rape according to the decision of the judge. It's not illegal, just like you want. You'd also know that they have one of the lowest rape rates on earth. They have the lowest reported rape rates on earth. I've heard some really unscrupulous things about the way they treat their migrant workers. Do you have any friends from there or met anyone from there?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/15 01:57 AM
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expelled from college campuses on false rape affirmative How many cases of this actually happens? It's equally bullshit to struggle through PTSD and rape trauma alone while the rapist gets off free. We need to find a good balance. Women getting hired over men That's not, in itself, destroying your rights. She could be hired over a man for all sorts of reasons. getting more quotas Having a gender balance in the work place that vaguely resembles real world gender percentages is not "destroying you…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/15 01:54 AM
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Very presumptuous, kiddo. No, I have a few friends from Riyadh. I don't know if I would visit, though. It doesn't sound very tourist-y. I have a lot of other places on my to-visit list.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/15 01:41 AM
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Right, so they had consensual sex last night, and now it is the next day and she no longer wishes to be around him. She wants him to go away. Cold? Yes. Cruel? Maybe. Within her rights? Absolutely.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/15 01:24 AM
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Lol, they got that list off of one tumblr that's been dead for ages. That's the equivalent of taking some old ass Reddit convo and putting it out there as absolute truth. I think most people will agree that sexual content, gore, and death are generally given discretionary warnings. It shows up on television and film all the time. Why should it be so outrageous to suggest implementing it in the classroom? I think high school students should be taught things that are suitable for their age. My sex…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/15 01:19 AM
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nor can they do it in Saudi Arabia. Sure they can. There isn't a law against rape. It's exactly what you want. Sounds like your kind of place.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/15 12:54 AM
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Basically they're just like you, an idiot complaining about unimportant things that are not austerity, homeless people searching for trash, no social welfare and children fainting at school. I don't understand why it's not possible to care about both the lack of social welfare and sexism in video games.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/15 12:35 AM
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I think it wouldn't hurt to give the students fair warning? For example, if a professor wants to use an example from last night's GoT episode, he will probably tell the class that there are spoilers inbound and they should cover their eyes/ears if they haven't seen the episode. Likewise, if the professor is going to show the video of a graphic rape/death, he could let the class know ahead of time so people who are uncomfortable with it can leave temporarily (or cover their eyes/ears). If rape/de…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/15 12:27 AM
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It just means she wants to force him to go away. Well, if he is in her personal space, she has every right to force him to go away. You are not entitled to other people's personal spaces.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/15 12:19 AM
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apex fallacy Nope, I'm pointing out politicians because they are the decision makers of the people. People make decisions based on their experiences, and the experience of US congress is overwhelmingly white, male and straight. They will make decisions that help and make sense to straight white men. congressmen get elected to their role by the public. Campaigns are often expensive. Women, LGBT members and ethnic minorities also face a lack of support from the general public due to stereotypes. P…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/15 12:16 AM
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It's Greece. So... you don't think the whole "poorest country in Europe" thing is a tad melodramatic? I mean, GDP per capita, it doesn't even make bottom 20 of 44. It's below average, but definitely not "the poorest". They tend to interject their politics into everything, even when they shouldn't. And in spaces that aren't "safe", "feminist" Why shouldn't they? Feminism is a political movement as well. They're allowed to have their say. If feminism triggers you, maybe you can create a safe space…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/15 12:09 AM
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You can just move to Saudi Arabia if you want to see that. They don't really flip out, though. It's not exactly shocking. Men have been raping with impunity for a long time. It's only very recently gotten better in some parts of the world and edgy kids like you are already having a meltdown about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/15 11:53 PM
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Yeah, but that doesn't actually make sense. You generally can't force women to do things, because they are a human with full rights. This is why you can't force women to be RPW. You're not supposed to be doing that anyway. You also can't force people to have sex with you. Hence rape laws.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/15 11:48 PM
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Feminists don't give a shit about men anyways. Not true. Most of them are just tired of listening to straight white dudes complain about ridiculous things like non-white star wars protagonists or being called sexist for saying women have the mental capacity of a child. having to listen about American feminism Do they actually make you listen? poorest countries in Europe lol, Greece? jk, I'm guessing Romania.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/15 11:35 PM
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However they are the only demographic that aren't explicitly given advantages at an institutional level How about the fact that the US congress is 80% white, 80% male and 99% straight?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/15 11:24 PM
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People who bring up male suicides and male victim rates of crimes and what not, get the sympathetic response of "Male Tears" from the various progressives anyways. Well, that depends on how you did it. Did you bring it up out of the blue and/or as a counter point in a discussion about other forms of oppression? Because if then, fuck you, shut up, wait your turn like everybody else. I see a bunch of dipshits on the internet using the whole "how can women be oppressed, if men are committing suicid…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/15 11:10 PM
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^ See kids, this is called an ad hominem. It is a fallacy that occurs when people aren't smart enough to form logical arguments. Outside of internet chat rooms, it also commonly exists in: school yards, rap battles, and US politics. Fun fact: If you lick the post, it will taste salty.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/15 09:51 PM
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Say what you want. Though it's probably ouch, because nerds be serious about their personalities. And INTJ is "best personality" ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/15 09:47 PM
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It means your decisions are based on a direct interpretation of the world (Sensing) and your feelings (Feeling) as opposed to an intuitive (I) thinking (T) approach. It also means you're an elephant, a rhino, a dolphin or a kitten. Imo, this whole business is one step above astrology and the equivalent of buzzfeed's "Which sandwich are you?" quiz result.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/15 09:14 PM
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I don't think we should dictate other people's recovery paths. People should get to decide when they get exposure therapy and when they just wanna chill out and not worry about it. This is comparable to the peanut content label. Obviously, the allergic individual needs to be pro-active in preventing an attack, but I don't see people condemning the peanut content label the way people have condemned the trigger warning. Nobody is demanding that the peanut label be removed as it "molly coddles" peo…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/15 08:56 PM
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the best captains are steering their ship for the benefit of all passengers and crew aboard. Except... it's not a ship. You're not on a ship. (Welcome to the real world!) This is a relationship of two equal, functioning adults. You are not entitled to authority over another. And when they renounce Nazism, say it's all wrong... Would people suddenly STOP treating them like a monster and START treating them like a human again ? Is this supposed to be a rhetorical question? Because most of the Nazi…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/15 08:33 PM
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How is feminism "destroying [your] rights"? And suppose, in some magical, delusional world of yours, where feminism is "destroying [your] rights", how exactly is complaining about feminism on the internet going to help?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/15 07:39 PM
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Our job is to have control of the situation such that you are led to the right decisions No, your job is to communicate what you actually want so you can come to a compromise that will work well for everyone, not manipulating your partner for your own end. Do you even Salsa, bro ? No, I don't Yes, they think the monsters they have created in their own mind ARE hillarious. And they're perfectly safe doing that....Because these aren't real human beings. Just monsters. Riiiight, which is why the on…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/15 03:08 PM
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Sure, I agree that a lack of communication is a problem. Adjusting to a different type of relationship compared to the "cock-carousel" might also be a challenge. I don't think it's any more of a problem than is present in most relationships, though. For example, men by and far have more trouble expressing themselves. I would advise all party involved to actively work on that, not "women shouldn't date men altogether because problems" (which seems to be the traditional response to "AFBB").
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/15 02:34 PM
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one of my friends thought that her boyfriend acted strange suddenly because of her weight gain. It was obvious to me that this wasn't the explanation at all I've actually watched that kdrama. The situation is going to simmer then escalate for a few months before they break down, tearfully confessing and making up in the story arc's penultimate episode. Maybe they could just communicate more. Communication is key in any relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/15 02:22 PM
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No they aren't. The RP line would be.... You didn;t get a perfect blowjob because you haven't made yourself attractive enough to your wife yet that she WANTS to give you an awesome blowjob.... OR.... Your wife is not submisive to you, even though women are naturally submissive, because you are a pale shell of a man that doesn't deserve respect. Here is how you build a dominant man she WILL want to be submissive too. Orrr, she just doesn't want to give a blow job or be submissive. Fancy that. I c…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/15 02:12 PM
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She loves him and wants to make him happy. Problem: She doesn't understand beta nice guys. Can't she, y'know, learn? she can't handle her beta boyfriend's sensitivity. She has never seen sensitivity and is confused and helpless. lol, as someone who was once a high school girl, almost no girl I know has not seen sensitivity. Even if she hasn't, I'm willing to be that she will be able to tackle this difficult obstacle and overcome it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/15 02:00 PM
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That was me putting it in a way RPers can understand. I try to make things as approachable as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/15 01:54 PM
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You don't like octopus sushi?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/15 01:46 PM
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Yeah! Except, unlike the Elephant Man and Bearded Lady who were born with physical abnormalities, RPers chose to be misogynistic asshole losers. It's like a cult, minus the whole being born indoctrinated thing. I have no sympathy for those who choose to be stupid assholes in the face of all the available information offered on the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/15 12:53 PM
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You don't have to be TRP to believe in equal treatment? I don't understand why she's the only one who has to please him. He should provide, with the same frequency, the same perfect sexual performance he demands from his wife. He doesn't seem to. I don't understand why he feels entitled to badger her about it, then throw a hissy fit just because he's not getting everything he wants, exactly as he wants. His post makes him sound like a spoiled child.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/15 12:15 PM
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I think maybe they should take turns. He should eat her out for two days and she can blow him for two days. In eating her out, he performs active dread by showing her how good he is at eating women out and makes her realize all the women he could win over with his oral performance. This might spur her on to be more enthusiastic in her blow jobs to keep him satisfied and interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/15 11:26 AM
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So what's the feminist solution about men who can't get laid. Masturbate. I tell that to all the women who can't get laid either. I think it should be part of the school sex ed curriculum. If someone could make one of those internet petitions, I will kindly sign it. I might even share it on facebook. That's how much I care.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/15 11:21 AM
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Are you talking celebrities? Or just friends? For regular people, Facebook likes depend on the number of outgoing facebooking friends you have, as in, people that actually go around liking photos instead of just lurking. The highest liked photo of anyone I know (+600 friends) is maybe 23% of his total friend count (300+ likes of 1400+ friends). Most people average about 5-15%. The idea that it's "soooo much easier" for women to get validation is complete bull. Most men have friends. Outgoing guy…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/15 11:14 AM
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I'm just gonna make passive aggressive strawmen because I don't have an argument! "/s" By the way, writing angry revenge porn and being obsessed with shitting on the women's rights movement isn't making anything better for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/15 10:11 AM
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No. Purples are irrelevant to me if they're not talking about red or blue.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/15 05:33 AM
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Your flair isn't RP. I don't keep track of individual users. Maybe you're overestimating your popularity.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/15 05:31 AM
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For a satire sub which is ultimately about social justice No. It's just a satire sub, period. People holding all sorts of views gather to make fun of RP. Some people just finds it hilarious to laugh at losers.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/15 05:29 AM
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It's being directed at RP, why should it bother you? They're not talking about you. RP says equally inflammatory generalizations about feminists as well as the rest of the female gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/15 05:25 AM
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See, it's shit like this that makes me think some of you people have no friends. Popular people will get compliments on social media regardless of gender or success. Obviously, most popular peeps aren't downright losers, but the correlation between success and internet compliments are very lose. I've known unpopular guys/girls landing a summer internship at a Fortune 500 ('working at google!') and not get any praise. On the other hand, some popular (but otherwise average) dude/lady posts an iron…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/15 05:18 AM
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How are they different? Most RP sounds like they haven't really spoken to any women IRL. Most of them also sound like children, both in terms of writing and actual real life voice. People who spend an inordinate amount of time discussing "sexual strategies" are socially awkward. (Regular people pick up what RP is trying to teach without needing an explicit tutorial. Regular people also would not spend this much time arguing about it on internet forums). Most of RP's posts do come across as: bitt…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/15 05:02 AM
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It wasn't just the misspelling. The sentence itself did not actually make sense. How long have you been learning English? You seem incapable of grasping the fact that she's in an elected position at a university. The only people who are able to vote her out is the student body, and they didn't do it. Donald Trump said McCain isn't a war hero. He also said Mexicans were mostly rapists and continuously throw sexist insults at women. But BC he is a man, it is okay. Do you know how retarded your arg…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/15 12:00 AM
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It was a study of both, genius. You should rule out comedy as a future career.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/15 11:44 PM
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You're the one who tried to say all persuasion is manipulation. Look up the definition of manipulation. "To control or play upon by artful, unfair or insidious means". You can definitely be persuasive without being manipulative. An good persuasive essay would present honest evidence and reasonable arguments to try and convince the reader to agree with the thesis. This is neither playful, unfair nor insidious. You can keep the advice to yourself, kid. I don't have any trouble getting girls. You c…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/15 11:40 PM
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How does this challenge OP's view tho?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/15 05:53 PM
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How does this challenge OP's view? Mods pls respond.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/15 05:50 PM
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At what point does all that anecdotal evidence become real enough to be worthy of note? I don't know. When do my anecdotal evidence about non-masculine men in happy relationships become worthy of note? Are there any studies of the colour of the sky? "Is the sky really blue? A systematic study of the skies colour spectrum." by Prof. Idiot One and Dr. Moron Two. Are you actually this ignorant? Or is it a joke? It's due to a phenomenon known as Rayleigh scattering. I think the sky is actually more …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/15 03:31 AM
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Donald Trump makes fun of Rosie ODOnnel and gets called sexist for making ALL WOMEN! First of all, Rosie O'Donnell. And it wasn't just Rosie O'Donnell. Donald Trump has made a lot of sexist comments about women throughout his life. Also, that sentence doesn't even make sense. Meanwhile this bitch says "kill all men" , not making fun of, literally wishing death on an entire gender. And WINS her election. Are you stupid? She didn't win her election after that scandal. Her school just didn't have e…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/15 03:19 AM
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They believe that if they support feminism, they will be liked by feminists You shouldn't support feminism so you can be "liked". You should support feminism because it's the right thing to do, and it is beneficial for everyone. Supporting a movement so as to be "liked" is stupid and disingenuous. And anyway, feminism is so confusing that no one really knows what they support anymore. I mean, if you have average IQ and the patience to actually read shit, it is not confusing at all. So these poor…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/15 03:03 AM
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Lol, are you this retarded in real life? Or is it an internet persona? You sound more offended and upset than any feminist I know. You've chosen to focus on one shitty example of a small time university diversity officer who tweeted some shitty things. The other was a respected Nobel Laureate giving a speech at a conference. Do you know the difference in these two situations? Retarded people tweet retarded shit all the time (e.g. Donald Trump). Nobody gives a flying fuck about what some "diversi…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/15 02:31 AM
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Do you really think a male who said something comparable would be allowed to work EVER again? No point saying ifs. We don't know. She kept her position because people didn't vote her out. At the end of the day, she's not our diversity officer. She only answers to her student body, which obviously didn't even care enough to have a 3% no-confidence vote. (Not exactly high...) I don't know about you, but I tend to hold Nobel Laureates to a higher standard than some student officer from a no-name co…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/15 01:37 AM
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Maybe not. And it's well within their freedom of speech to be as uproarious about their displeasure as they want. But that's not why he was punished. They weren't his employers.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/15 01:00 AM
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Anecdotal evidence. I know lots of people who can't get a date. I feel for all of them, because they all deserve love.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/15 12:39 AM
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See why I'm not doing that? But you did Having people piblically speak about you the way they do on /r/niceguys is ruinous to your social life and humiliating. I'd much rather be a woman with leaked nudes under feminism than a man spoken of like that IRL. You keep changing the requirements to suit your own arguments. You know what? It doesn't matter, because the oldest woman in the US was born in 1899. In fact, around 300,000 women in the US today knew the country where women didn't have the vot…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/15 12:36 AM
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Did you read any of that beside the title? Jesus, does anyone do research around here? She didn't dislike them because they were "feminized": It’s not that I don’t want to be with a man who respects me, values consent, or is conscious of the various gender-based imbalances in the world today. When it comes to dating and relating, I don’t care who opens the door for whom, or who picks up the bill. She disliked them because most of them are not actually feminists, they just pretend to be to get la…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/15 11:56 PM
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Employed women can say "kill all men" She wasn't employed. She was some student union elected official. They tried a vote of no confidence and it didn't pass. They got 1.9% and needed 3%. (165 votes out of 8000+ students. I'm guessing, as with most student organizations, most people simply don't give a shit.) How the fuck is this comparable to Nobel Laureates? You're so solipsistic that you don't realize how fucking ridiculous that comparison is. I can't believe you compared a Nobel Laureate to …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/15 11:33 PM
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Then why is he getting punished? he got suspended because what he did was a breach of guidelines according to BBC. Sure, he can say whatever he wants. But if he wants to work for BBC, apparently he has to be polite and not make derogatory comments. Sounds like a fair requirement, seeing as BBC has standards to uphold, since they strive to be a classy broadcasting network. They probably wouldn't take it too kindly to their reporters swearing on TV either. There are usually courteous and professio…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/15 11:14 PM
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No, she counts. She is a feminist. You don't get to say who counts and who doesn't to suit your argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/15 06:41 PM
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You insist that we use internet examples then you insist we use real life examples when it better suit your argument. It doesn't matter, because it all shit flinging. I would still personally prefer having people shit talk me than have my nudes leaked and sent to my family and coworkers. I actually think most people live with being shit talked behind their backs, as it happens a lot. Most seem really uncomfortable with the prospects of having naked pictures of themselves shared with people they …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/15 06:38 PM
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Dating is weird in general. Expanding your social circle to meet like minded women and keeping reasonable expectation is key. You don't necessarily have to wait another 10 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/15 06:23 PM
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Most of the attitudes masculine men hold are deemed "toxic" and undesirable No, there is nothing wrong with being emotionally stoic or being sexually domineering (consensually). The problem comes in when there is an expectation that "real men" must be emotionally stoic and sexually dominant. This is why it's toxic, because it forces men to behave in that way, lest they are teased or called "unmanly". The redpill idea that a man must be alpha to get what he wants, he must be the captain, he must …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/15 06:21 PM
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So if manipulation is morally wrong is it also morally wrong to lie to children? It depends on the lie. For example, Santa clause is not a inherently harmful one. On the other hand, telling children that they must behave in a specific way lest they incurr the wrath of God can fall under cruel and unusual treatment. Some people are "stupid" enough to lose their money to televangelists. It is in part naïveté and in part desperation. Preying on vulnerable people is especially terrible. Manipulation…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/15 06:11 PM
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Sexism is prejudice in gender. Misogyny is prejudice against women. Seeing as it affects women as well as men, it falls under misogyny as well as misandry.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/15 06:00 PM
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You referred to flogging in the context of a subreddit, because that is supposedly "what we know". It doesn't matter. The claim was that no live women had been told they couldnt vote in America. If a sixty year old woman living in Mississippi tried to vote on her 21st birthday, she would have been told she couldn't. I thought you studied law.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/15 05:38 PM
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Again, I just told you that I'm referring to the IRL treatment and not the online version. Nice goal post shift. Whatever happened to internet flogging? As I've said, they didn't ratify the amendment until 1953. They're not even the last state to do so. Learn your history. Besides, the oldest woman was born in 1899, so she would have remembered women not being able to vote in her lifetime either way.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/15 05:00 PM
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Haha sorry I thought you were a girl Omg no way me too You have convinced me Glad to hear it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/15 04:47 PM
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Pretty common feminist rhetoric. Here is the wikipedia entry on it. Within hostile sexism (HS) and benevolent sexism (BS), the three subcomponents serve distinct functions. Dominative paternalism (HS) suggests that men should control women, while protective paternalism (BS) implies that men should protect and care for women. Competitive gender differentiation (HS) bolsters men's self-confidence (e.g., men are superior to women). Complementary gender differentiation (BS) places importance on trad…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/15 04:44 PM
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You could try lowering your standards. Most ugly girls do. People usually date within their own range of attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/15 04:32 PM
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No, feminists generally have no strong opinions on how men should act. Aside from things like, not harassing other people and not assaulting other people. But I think those apply to both genders. Men just happen to more often be the offenders. So, sure, beating people up and shouting slurs is pathologized. Toxic masculinity isn't "men being men". It's forcing people to uphold unhealthy images of themselves for the sake of not being emasculated. Did you watch the video? I don't think you care abo…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/15 04:31 PM
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It is generally not moral to manipulate others. Some cases like self-defense may make that acceptable. (E.g. DV victims lying to their abuser to get to safety or bring themselves out of harm's way). Lying to people and forcing your will on them to get a date is not one of those cases. It's quite clear, actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/15 04:21 PM
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I'd much rather be a woman with leaked nudes under feminism than a man spoken of like that IRL. I rather be a man anonymously spoken of like that on the internet than a woman with her nudes leaked linking her to her real life. We can do oppression Olympics all day. Alabama legislature didn't sort out the whole women voting thing until 1953. Legalized in 1920, but the state didn't work out the logistics until 30 years later. The oldest women alive today grew up in Alabama in the 1920s. Learn your…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/15 04:18 PM
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She's a wealthy singer who "made it". I know fans who worship her that are taller and more jacked than that guy. I don't think the guy is rich. He's a small time photographer, I believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/15 03:42 PM
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Sigh. Did you read that link? Please at least read some of it. Burden of proof is on you because you made the claim. It is infinitely easier for you to provide evidence to back up a claim than it is for me to provide evidence to back up that it isn't. This is why people are innocent until proven guilty in most courts of law. If you want to make a claim, you need to back it up. Read the link please.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/15 03:40 PM
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I have. As I've said, it doesn't make it OK to be shitty to other people. There are positive techniques of conflict resolution. Redpill is a branch of patriarchy. They support a lot of patriarchal beliefs, like men are superior, women are irrational and immature, and celebrating male promiscuity while shaming the female equivalent. These ideas aren't original, they've existed as part of a larger patriarchal sytem for centuries.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/15 03:37 PM
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Because ted talks are sometimes bullshit so this one must also be bullshit? Did you even watch it? Do you actually have any real points you want to argue or discuss?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/15 03:32 PM
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Newsflash, sister. You're not a spokesperson for all men. Stop generalizing and speak for yourself. Great strawmans, btw. Humans are social creatures hardwired for empathy. How's that for evopsych?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/15 03:30 PM
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Movember hasn't been as publicised this year, ngl. I haven't heard a peep on Facebook or social media. Anecdotal evidenece. I could also say that I hear about it a lot on social media and donate to a couple of close friends who are growing full beards. The claim was that men's issues haven't been discussed since the eighties and it definitely has. Currently are. I'm getting the vibe that a lot of you don't actually keep up with the discussion on men's issues. If you kept up and join the conversa…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/15 03:25 PM
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The question was whether or not feminists date non-tall and non-strong guys. Lorde is an outspoken feminist. I also know a lot of male lorde fans, a couple of which wouldn't mind dating her because she's "not like the other girls". I reckon the fame also has something to do with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/15 03:19 PM
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'The Red Pill' is nothing more than a bullshit patriarchal newspeak meme designed to shame men who dare to be themselves. If you don't take the red pill, you are a plugged in beta libcuck. We can throw blanket statements all day.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/15 10:04 AM
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In practice, they are much less likely to date or be attracted to men who don't conform to it, and when a guy asks about this, it's interpreted as complaining (well it might be but anyway) and then he's shamed as above. See, I was asking for sources about stuff like this. You need to back this shit up. Are you talking about niceguy tier shit? Because I can tell you right now, that they're not being made fun of for "nonconformity". Chivalry and being "nice to women" isn't the opposite of misogyny…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/15 10:01 AM
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you're going to waste my time by pretending that you don't know what a metaphor I know what a metaphor is. The question is, do you? Because that's really more of a hyperbole. You know what else is ruinous to your social life? Having your nudes hacked and leaked on the internet. Good thing names and identities are censored out on /r/niceguys. You do realize those were jokes right? I don't think you know what jokes are. The first one clearly asks people to "try to prove him wrong". The second has …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/15 09:48 AM
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I can't think of any mature RPer who would advise a man to do forklift driving rather than dental hygiene Maybe a better RP example would be a stay-at-home dad. Some of the highest earning wall street women have sahd taking care of the children and working behind the scenes, making their success possible (gender reversed is true for many successful men). If that is what a guy wants, I don't see why it should be "unmanly". If the wife makes more money and the man doesn't like his work that much, …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/15 09:26 AM
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Not really. Yes, really. That's how burden of proof works. It is on you, since you made the claim. Likewise, if I were to accuse you of stealing, it would be on me to prove you did it. I'm not arguing on an unfounded premise.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/15 09:09 AM
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I said in my post that feminists date all sorts of men because they are individuals with their own preferences. Oh look, here's Lorde and her boyfriend. I can't say how macho he is, but he sure don't look that tall, or muscular. It doesn't say shit either way. Where do feminists actually shame men for not conforming to traditional masculine gender roles?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/15 09:05 AM
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Define 'honest and open' v. 'false image' Honest and open, as in, men can make sandwiches if they like making sandwiches. As opposed to being forced to uphold a false image by refusing to make sandwiches because it would be "unmanly" and insisting that a woman do it. A more serious example is a guy who refuses to apply for the dental hygienist program at his local college, even though it would be a good fit for him, because he feels it is not a very manly job. He opts to take a crash course on f…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/15 08:57 AM
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Feminists still date tall men, strong men, macho men, MASCULINE men. Feminists date all sorts of men, because they are individuals with their own preferences. I daresay most don't date misogynistic men, though. Or men who cling to outdated patriarchal ideas. Again, you made the statement. The proof of burden is on you. Give some examples from feminist blogs that support your statement or there not much point in this discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/15 08:41 AM
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IF i believed that women were always truthful about "wanting a good guy", then I would have to conclude that I'm not a good guy. But I AM a good guy. Yeah, but they probably have other requirements on top of "a good guy". Good guy is an extremely broad category. They're not attracted to every single good guy, it's a smaller subset of good guys that also fulfill other criteria. E.g. if someone says "I want a laptop", they might have a bunch of other criteria in mind (battery life, os, gpu, size).…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/15 08:35 AM
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including most of feminism, promotes the idea of toxic masculinity by withholding validation and\or shaming men who don't conform to traditional male gender. Vague sweeping statement. It would be nice if you could post at least one example to back that up.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/15 08:14 AM
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referring to the idea of AWALT as a heuristic that's not meant literally. It's stated on their sidebar that women are teenagers in adult bodies. It's not my problem if Redpillers don't do their own required reading.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/15 08:11 AM
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With regards to blank slate, men and women are different, but social conditioning exaggerates the differences. Encouraging people to be more honest and open will create a healthier and more content population in the long run, because people will be able to put more effort into doing what they want, rather than maintaining a false image. I'm not quite sure how just world fallacy fits in here.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/15 07:50 AM
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If you had the tiniest tinge of objectivity to even peek out of your permanent victimhood, you would realize that it is a false dichotomy. There can be (surprise!) both men and women issues! (gasp!) Just like environmental and race issues can co-exist! Why should it take away from your problem that women want to create their own social change? Are you such a prima donna that all issues must involve you? ZERO male problems have been addressed since the fucking 80's. Which just goes to show that y…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/15 07:40 AM
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Does SRS doxx and blackmail people? Losing imaginary internet points isn't doxx or blackmail, btw, and there isn't even real evidence for that. Most SRS posts remain positive.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/15 07:18 AM
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It promotes the idea of toxic masculinity. The idea that a man must be "alpha" and "take charge". If you have some free time, here is a nice Tedx talk by a feminist. She outlines why gender roles are bad for both men and women. She addresses men in particular at around 11:17.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/15 07:07 AM
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See, I agree over-medicating (especially for boys) is a serious issue, and the education system is in dire need for a complete overhaul. We need to change the way children are raised in response to the way family dynamics have changed. I don't think courts are "screwing over males" (if you're talking custody, most divorce is settled out-of-court, but yes, prison-industrial-complex is a serious issue). I also agree that positive male role models are really important for children, and I would love…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/15 06:50 AM
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We're on the internet. We don't have mutual acquaintances and we almost certainly don't know each other. /r/NiceGuys is what's accessible to both of us. Yeah, but public flogging. Like, I didn't even know that was legal in the west. I was hoping for, a liveleak video like the one they have for the Singapore Vandal or something. TRP is absolutely despised by almost everyone on reddit. The subs who do the opposite are accepted for it. TRP is actually more like SRS in terms of distance from the cen…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/15 06:27 AM
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You can check out the feminist hub that is /r/NiceGuys. Aw, I thought you meant the official definition. Isn't it a little melodramatic to call that "public flogging"? I feel cheated. By your definition, couldn't you also say that a lot of subreddits also flog women? (TRP, for one, has more than double the subscriber of niceguys, and often engages in slutshaming) This is the message that men hear when they say that they want. Meanings can change when taken out of context, hence, it will just be …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/15 05:35 AM
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Getting a dental cleaning makes me unhappy. But in the end I'm better off for it. It takes a special kind of arrogance to compare manipulating others for your own benefit to a dental procedure. Maybe these women no longer ought to be attracted to their abusive partners. By convincing them otherwise using emotional abuse, they could be worse off for it. (Lower self-esteem, lower quality of life, less time doing what they truly want) Who are you to say what is better or worse for these women? Mayb…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/15 05:15 AM
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Men so much as acknowledging it or saying that women don't like nice guys, are flogged. Really? Where? I need to know... for a friend. Feminism is FULL of people saying not to judge women by partner count, not to prefer young girls, not to want women solely for their bodies, not to want housewives, etc. Men are shamed as being inadequate, feeling threatened, as perverts, as patriarchal, as oppressive, etc. I think this is full of strawmen, but there's no good way of properly discussing it withou…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/15 05:00 AM
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When you do it at the detriment of innocent people.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/15 04:45 AM
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If dread game ultimately makes women more attracted to their partners, isn't that giving them exactly what they want? No, because it is actively making the recipient of those behaviors less happy. On the other hand, you can choose to not date women with curves, hair dye, piercing and tattoos. Their fashion choices are their own and do not directly affect you. One of those action is an active , the other is a passive.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/15 04:43 AM
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Here, the possibly most upvoted and most gilded TRP-post of all time Doesn't justify being shitty to other people. Just because your SO is unhappy, doesn't mean they're allowed to treat you like crap. There are mature outlets to communicate and change the way things are. RP promotes none of those things. I thought all redpillers are loser neckbeards who won't get a woman anyway. Nice strawman. Where exactly did I say that in my post? Why would you want to work for one as a woman? If I knew a pot…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/15 04:36 AM
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Some of them didn't enter a relationship with RP. Their SO were radicalized afterwards. Also, considering RP's strong desire for housewives, some of them may be financially dependent on their husband. Outside of a context of a relationship, holding sexist views may affect one's judgment, similar to how holding racist views may affect one's judgment. If someone was conditioned to view women as lesser, this would affect their quotidian interactions with women. If, as a small business owner of a te…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/15 12:20 PM
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It's making life worse for women who have to put up with emotional abuse (dread game). By advising people on how to treat their girlfriends like crap, these women are directly affected. By advising people on how to fire their black employee, the black employees are directly affected. You could also say that by promoting sexist stereotypes about women (irrational, narcissistic, immature), there are now more women who have to put up with the kind of shitty behavior that these shitty ideas justify.…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/15 03:11 AM
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Do you see me going onto stormfront or coontown and bitching? I'm curious, how would you feel if you stumble across a forum where people are sharing tactics on how to avoid hiring blacks? Or how to fire a black guy without getting sued? Or how to prevent black people from moving into the neighborhood? I mean, does it change your perspective if the things they are discussing and techniques they are sharing makes life slightly worse for black people everywhere?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/15 02:31 AM
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It just makes them a less attractive prospect for a long term partner. Well, that's just like, your opinion, man. I think it makes them more burglar-like.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/15 02:24 AM
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Women get what they want by extracting it from men, by manipulation and subterfuge if necessary. Some women do. Men get what they want by extracting it from women, by manipulation and subterfuge if necessary. Some men do. Doesn't make the behavior ethical. Anyone who does it is morally wrong and deserves to be called out. Red pill is just as terrible as the women they describe. As it stands, it would be hypocritical of RP to hold moral high ground over the "irrational, narcissistic women" that t…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/15 02:18 AM
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I disagree. What begets a feminist? a woman who cannot find a man she is wild for. Feminism started way before that. (feminism arguably started with the suffragists, approx. 200 years ago). Feminism also exists in part of the world where there isn't a lot of call of duty or cheetos available. Hook up culture came to be for a couple of reasons. I'm going to break it down to two parts. First, is the normalization of sex. Second is the decline of long term monogamy. There is a huge shift away from …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/15 02:07 AM
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the blue pill mindset advocates about relationships. blue pill doesn't have a united mindset about relationships. They just all agree that RP's is ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 08:03 AM
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Well.. I mean, I'm subscribed for shits and giggles. I know at least a handful of other Bloopers who are subscribed for great content. Also, reddit has around 70 million unique users. Even if we assume that reddit is representative of the world (it's not) and that reddit is only 50% male (it's not) that's still only 0.4% of male redditors subscribed to TRP (rounded up and including bloopers like me).
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 07:58 AM
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Why not? This place doesn't get that much traffic anyhow. It's not like the ban-whining-whining thread is taking the place of better threads. By all means, complain if you wish. But you're the one who has a problem with people who "shit up the place". Your whole post was self-contradictory. You're pointlessly whining about pointless whining. If you feel that strongly about pointless whining, the best way to combat it is downvote and ignore, not dedicating another thread to fan the drama. This is…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/15 07:46 AM
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You're not changing OP's view. Also, next up: Whining about ban whining should not be permitted at PPD. Edit: by which I mean, no point making a whole thread to complain about it. Downvote if it happens. This place doesn't get that much traffic anyhow. It's not like the ban-whining thread is taking the place of better threads.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/15 06:17 AM
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Because... "women behave in an immature fashion" does not actually mean "women behave in an immature fashion"? What does it actually mean? What does anything actually mean? Who was phone? How can arguments be real if our sentences aren't real. I am really curious about the world you live in. It sounds like an exciting place devoid of sense or reason. Seems like I can't transcend the physical plane onto the upper echelons of RP awakening. Where you're going, you won't need any logic. Have fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/15 06:12 AM
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Right, because you literally can't provide any sort of reasoning why you think my direct quote from a redpill endorsed blog should be open to interpretation. You are, again, demonstrating your complete inability to hold a discussion, much less a debate. Do you know how debates work? Have you seen one? (Btw, "whoa dude, life is so complicated, I literally can't even" is not a good defense for anything) At this rate, I'm not even sure how you dress yourself in the morning, given how complicated th…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/15 05:52 AM
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Can't discuss shit if you won't even support your own arguments. Kind of a running theme in this whole discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/15 05:27 AM
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religious interpret their books differently And you fully accept that some of these interpretations are factually incorrect, right? Like, God does not, in fact, love gay people. Reals > Feels. Furthermore, not everything is open to interpretation. I can say, I interpret the statement "rabbits are herbivores" to mean rabbits only eat thyme. I would be wrong. Why do you think "women [...] behave in an immature [...] fashion" is open to your interpretation? Seems like a very simple statement to me.…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/15 04:21 AM
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You're pulling basically the same shtick as moderate religious folks who defend their religion on the grounds of "we interpret the holy book differently" or accuse people of "taking things too literally" when atheists point out the flaws in their book. You want to believe your religion so much that you're blindsided to the very real things it preaches. You try to shake off criticism with the claim of "wrong interpretation" or "not what Allah really means when he said kill all non-believers". It'…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/15 05:43 AM
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Nope, you didn't. Learn to debate. Good night.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/15 03:30 AM
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circular logic: you think you're RP because you understand it. You think you understand it because you're RP. If you really understand RP theory, cite their side bar to dispute my claim. Put your money where your mouth is. Reals > Feels.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/15 12:32 AM
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mb, I thought you mean in general, as in, "what's the deal with you".
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/15 08:33 AM
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Please explain the Internet lingo that I use You mean AWALT? Seriously, just do the reading. It's not that hard. Go to the sidebar and read it. I can't do everything for you. I have pulled from the sidebar to defend my perspective and you've done nothing but complain about how I'm "misinterpreting" without providing any sort of evidence. You're pulling the no true Scotsman fallacy in the face of overwhelming evidence. You have absolutely nothing to back up your claims against me and you've deman…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/15 07:30 AM
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You need to read it again because you're taking everything literally. You need to learn to read. Those quotes are without figurative language traits. Sorry. Just because you don't accept something, doesn't mean it's metaphorical. Reals > Feels. You're put off by the message, which prevents you from an honest reading. Your real problem here My problem here is your inability to read and accept reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/15 01:10 AM
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As a an RP, would you not consider that men are rational, ordered, self-disciplined? These Apollonian traits are good. Ahaha, I have no doubt that RP wants to believe themselves Apollonians and consider Apollonian traits very good. It's just not the truth, though. RP frees the members of one set of rules and supplants them with a new set of rules. No. At its core, it considers rule-following (obedience) to be beta traits. Alphas take charge, "create their own rule" (not how order works: if every…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/15 12:50 AM
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Sigh. You're not understanding my post. Stop getting hung up on the on the wording. Re-read and try get a level of understanding adequate to actually respond.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/15 12:31 AM
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Also, I've done the reading As have I I don't, and didn't, get hung up on the wording. Neither have I I simply stated your understanding was based on the superficial arrangement of letters And what exactly does "women [...] behave in an immature, selfish, and totally self-centered fashion" mean, on a "non superficial" level? I cannot argue against the strawman you created as its fundamentally wrong. If you don't fully accept or understand Redpill or want feels > reals, that's fine. But don't com…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/15 12:26 AM
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You're the one with the misunderstanding. Because I can quote the redpill sidebar? Look, just because you're not ready to accept red pill theories does not mean they're not there. That's an extremely childish view. I've cited direct quotes from Redpill theory reading and you've continuously told me "that's not what it means!" without providing any sources or even an alternate interpretation. It seems like you're just grasping at straws now. It's very similar to religious individuals who keep tel…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/15 12:18 AM
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See? Was that so hard? You can reason, you just choose not to. To do your homework for you Nah, justifying your argument is your homework, not mine. You can't always expect other people to fight your battles for you. Important lesson. AWALT simply means women are women, not men. omfg no way. Sarcasm aside, I'm surprised people need to be reminded of this. I guess I'm expecting too much. AWALT is a reminder that you can't put women on the pedestal or expect them to act in a way a man does. I thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/15 05:13 PM
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Again, you're misunderstanding the point entirely. Go read the side bar Until then, you're proving AWALT. Yeah, see, this is not how to debate or make a point. You really need to work on that. "If you don't justify my points for me, you're a doo-doo!" is not how debates works. That's how four-year-olds tantrums work. Learn to debate. Here is a place to start. You can always google for more tips on how to support your arguments.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/15 04:12 PM
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You made no points. "The word "all" is absolute." <-- this is a point. Better question is, what are you responding to if I've supposedly made no points? You misunderstood TRP and built a straw man. Nobody is saying to blindly accept the sidebar How convenient. the intended message And what exactly is that? How about you actually say the intended message instead of throwing a fit like right now? What exactly is the point of AWALT? And why is it called AWALT instead of SWALT? (Seriously, you've sp…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/15 03:56 PM
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I think TRP is hopelessly Apollonian. RP is about sex. Sex and lust are sensual. RP promotes sexual indulgence (plate spinning), a distinctly Dionysian trait. RP is about feelings. It's about feeling sad, or feeling hurt. It's about how to stop feeling bad and start feeling good. The motives and outcomes of RP is Dionysian. The framework of RP is Dionysian as well. The concept of AF/BB, AWALT and female hypergamy is justified with appeal to nature and "instinct" (cave people living in nature did…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/15 03:44 PM
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So instead of refuting my points, you've opted for name calling. Repeating yourself doesn't make you more correct, you know? Do you have actual arguments? Citations to back up your claim? Why don't you go back to worshipping alphas in your safe space if you have nothing meaningful to say? (Nice downvotes, btw. Really adds to the discussion)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/15 02:52 PM
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AWALT isn't an absolute. Yeah.. nah, that's not what "all" means. The word "all" is absolute. Willfully being ignorant of what words mean solves nothing. RP advice is to take responsibility for some of the things and blame the rest on society. The blame manifest itself as misdirected anger. They get angry at society, but it's not really justified. They think it is because they buy into RP's inaccurate interpretation of the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/15 12:13 AM
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incredibly toxic and misogynistic to think a wealthy woman should pay alimony to her ex-husband. No, it just seems out of place on a supposed self-improvement sub. Also, most of the top comments are calling women gold digging whores.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/15 04:51 PM
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He's analyzing through a different paradigm. He's shifting the perception of "anger phase" from feelings based to a more observation based discussion. No one but you truly knows how you feel. It's pointless to argue about it. Every schizophrenic has his own hallucinations. There isn't a discussion to be had there. Instead, OP is taking schizophrenia out of the context of feeling to the cause and effects of it. He is saying "schizophrenia is caused by brain chemistry and causes people to feel thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/15 04:22 PM
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Because this is a debate sub? Why are you here if you're not interested in discussion? Are you developmentally delayed? (Serious question)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/15 03:41 PM
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Red pill projects their anger onto all women and society at large. It's not just some women, or AWALT wouldn't be a thing. This is the problem with them, that they take their small instances and project it onto everyone. This is not "whose fault it is", just whether or not I've been on the receiving end of RP anger, and yes, I have.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/15 02:40 PM
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I suppose I can see it from your perspective. You mean the perspective that redpill puts out? Because that's a redpill blog. Funny, because you call yourself redpill and never did the reading (or you would have known this earlier, and I wouldn't have to point it out to you). Reading comprehension and critical thinking goes a long way. Women think they are better than men, men think they are better than women. Some do, some don't, depends on the person, really can't generalize. Fuck men and women…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/15 02:36 PM
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Because he's describing it and it's motivations incorrectly. He's describing it differently from what you are used to. migranes Or maybe you suffer from schizophrenia and OP describes the way schizophrenics act, having seen them up close for quite a while. And you, as a schizophrenic, comes along and says "I have a better understanding of schizophrenia than you do". See how we can both make up analogies?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/15 10:20 AM
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So who's to say OP doesn't have a better understanding of the anger phase than you do? You don't truly know how to throw a punch until you've taken a few. My "I know more about being in the anger phase than you" was directed at OP. What does that statement say? Does it have a point? You've nothing to back it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/15 09:57 AM
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Okay, so you're admitting that you don't necessarily know the anger phase better than me? Good to get that out of the way. So let's say: "I know more about being in the anger phase than you." That's presumptuous of you. How did you come to such a conclusion?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/15 09:48 AM
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I know more about the anger phase than you will ever know. Both from reading red pill stuff and real-life. ehhh, I don't know if I agree... Have you tried being on the receiving end of that anger?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/15 09:37 AM
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You are the one who decides that being equated to teenagers makes you somehow 'less of a person' or some stupid shit like that. Legally teenagers have less status than a full grown adult. They are not "subhuman", but they do not have the same rights (voting, drinking) and socially do not command the same respect. None of the quotes you've supplied say, or even imply that women are less than men. Here is one (did you even do the required reading?): "A parent who expects their child to also be the…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/15 09:29 AM
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I never, ever said that women were lesser You do when you subscribe to the Redpill idea that women are like teenagers and children. <-- here is the link from the side bar of redpill. Some neat quotes, since you don't seem to have read the sidebar: "You cannot expect children, or women, to fulfill your needs for emotional intimacy nor to be “someone to lean on” during times of strife." " even if you are not yet convinced that women are as mere children but only of a larger growth, you would be we…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 11:53 PM
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Where in the 'sidebar' does it explicitly state that women/society are at fault? The link "Women, the most responsible teenager in the house". Did you read my post? Or just skim? Seriously, as far as I can tell, men and women are not equal, in any regard. They are both human beings and therefore entitled to the same human rights. People exist on a spectrum, physically, emotionally, mentally, etc. There are women who are smarter than you and women who are dumber than you. Women who are stronger t…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 08:40 PM
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TRP doesnt see that as a problem, it sees it as a "truth" Changing the world doesn't make the argument go away. It's a "truth" that takes the responsibility out of their hands. It's a "truth" that justify RP's methods (manipulation, coercion, abuse), actions that they would never take against people they view as actual humans instead of "plates". Redpill doesn't try to change women because they believe women are beyond redemption. They need to believe that women follow AF/BB and hypergamy withou…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 08:05 PM
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You keep reiterating ideas at me that are flat out wrong interpretations of TRP, without any actual justification. And you've provided absolutely no justification to disprove my ideas. I've actually tried to point you in the right direction (look at side bar) but you insist on spewing random crap. Sidebar: "Women, the most responsible teenager in the house". It depicts women as juvenile and incapable of maturing past the age of 18. It also tells men to not treat women as equals. This is known as…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 07:38 PM
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Good for you. Does that have anything to do with me? Or are you just sharing a random tidbit unrelated to my post?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 07:09 PM
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You think that every women is a cunt No, I know TRP thinks every women is a cunt. You don't know what awalt means No, you don't know what awalt means. You think hypergamy is something bad No. While hypergamy is not bad, it is not true of every woman. Previous partner count also does not affect a woman's ability to "pair-bond". You think TRP is a cult Yes, TRP follows a lot of characteristics of a cult. You think TRP doesn't work No, I am skeptical. You need to understand not everything in this w…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 10:26 AM
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I judge men for their relationships as much as I judge women for their relationships. I think it's fair, seeing as your relationships are part of who you are. That being said, it's pretty low on the totem pole of things I judge people by. Although someone's choice in partners says something about them, it's not as reliable a measure of character, personality and abilities as other things, i.e. political views, occupation, general behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 10:19 AM
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I assume you mean way "too" misogynistic. And no, this is redpill beliefs. Or are you actually denying AWALT and the female hypergamy theory? How about the "feminized society" theory in which men are automatically put at a disadvantage due to "feminists"? If you actually examine Redpill ideas without your rose-tinted lenses, you will find that it's mostly misogyny, with a dash of "self-improvement" thrown in. I suppose most RP aren't very forthcoming IRL about their internet cult when trying to …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 10:08 AM
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can confirm, am homosexuality transgenderism libcucks. You know me so well, you're like the Taylor Swift to my teenage experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 08:46 AM
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I already typed up another reply that pretty much addresses your points. So, unless you deny the whole AWALT/feminist conspiracy/matrix-themed name, I'm just gonna ctrl+c: Redpill "blame" themselves for "being gullible" and push the rest of the problem onto everyone else (AWALT, feminized society, etc). They're not really taking responsibility for the outcome. They don't even accept the real outcome (women aren't hypergamous whores, they're just not interested in catshit, "be yourself" is good a…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 08:42 AM
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Are you actually denying AWALT? That's a core concept of TRP, you know? Maybe try reading the sidebar. Redpill "blame" themselves for "being gullible" and push the rest of the problem onto everyone else (AWALT, feminized society, etc). They're not really taking responsibility for the outcome. They don't even accept the real outcome (women aren't hypergamous whores, they're just not interested in catshit, "be yourself" is good advice for people who aren't Timmy). Redpill Timmy doesn't accept that…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 03:21 AM
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Do you actually have a point? Or are you shitposting just cuz?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 03:03 AM
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Lol, trp says you should "blame" yourself because women are beyond redemption (i.e. AWALT).
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 03:03 AM
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Timmy doesn't blame Sarah. No. Redpill blames women. Redpill blames both. It's daddy's fault for giving bad advice and Sarah's fault for being a superficial cunt. In fact, they've projected their incorrect assumption about Sarah onto every woman ever. Every woman is a superficial cunt and must be treated accordingly.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/15 09:53 AM
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they're aware of the anti-male bias from k-12 and college which leads to too few men for them to date? No, that's not actually an issue. The problem is that they usually go into very female-dominant majors and form mostly female study groups. Or they just run in mostly-female circles of friends where none of them know any guys and they're too busy hanging out to actually talk to guys. Saying "anti-male bias" actually affects college dating is like saying global warming is the reason why my room …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/15 09:40 AM
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I think you're reading way too much into complaining. Lots of people complain just for the sake of complaining. Haven't you heard couples complain? You know, she's too naggy, he doesn't do the dishes, she's never wants sex, he lasts 15 seconds. They could divorce if they want, but they won't, because they actually love each other. Or divorce is too inconvenient. Either way, they're just venting and don't actually want to do anything about it. Most of the women whom I've seen complain about their…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/15 08:19 AM
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I did. I wrote a mini-essay on it, but you insist on being ignorant. Most feminists don't really give a fuck, because they have a bigger fish to fry (e.g. legalizing sex work, ending female genital mutilation, and trying to keep planned parenthood afloat). Let me tell you something about contradictions, though. If you know anything about the real world, you will realize that contradictions exists everywhere, from the hardest sciences to the greatest works of art. Red pill seemingly doesn't have …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/15 09:46 AM
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THAT's the one thing you picked from my post?? It was a jarring contrast between how strongly you feel about men allegedly being disadvantaged in your society and your decision to do absolutely nothing about it. What exactly do you want me to do about it? Raise awareness? Donate to a shelter for abused men? Plenty of things you can do if you actually think about it. What exactly do any of us accomplish posting on PPP Do you have a life outside of PPD? I do. This is my biggest problem with Red Pi…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/15 09:30 AM
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Lol so reasonable society would jump in even though she started it and clearly she should tap out? Do you mean in your scenario? Or in the video? I don't know where you live, but where I live, we have laws and stuff, and if you beat someone up, you will be charged with assault. Also, people will break up fights to de-escalate the situation before it gets out of hand. That's just good sense. How can you say this was a wrestling agreement of some sort? As I've mentioned, in most scenarios, people …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/15 09:20 AM
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The sign of a weak ideology. Sry not everyone can be as one dimensional as RP. Maybe you should educate yourself in the future instead of constantly asking ignorant crap.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/15 08:52 AM
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Ok, for the last time, bluepill isn't necessarily feminist or a trans ally. I've already told you less than a day ago that feminism is a large movement. The fact that you told me just earlier today that you've never heard of a single feminist who was pro-sex works tells me that you're seriously uninformed in this area. If you want to know more about the interactions and politics between all the branches, there are a lot of other places where you can do the necessary readings. This is PPD, not Fe…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/15 07:54 AM
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I'll leave you to it. See, why do you bitch about perceived injustice but proceed to do absolutely nothing about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/15 07:22 AM
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You're honestly telling me if a girl is insulting me and starts throwing her fists and I start pounding her society won't jump in? Sure "society" would, provided that you are surrounded by reasonable people. A reasonable "society" would also have jumped in if it were two women fighting. Or two men. Violence is frowned upon in this society. This is a different situation. Those two seemed to be in some sort of fighting agreement/wrestling match, hence all the people filming/telling him to tap out …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/15 07:15 AM
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Well, just a small thing, but not all BP is feminist, nor do all BP believe that women are discriminated against. Important distinction. Females are actively encouraged to be more like men I don't think she's acting like a man. I think she's acting like one of those MMA fighters. Maybe you should stop trying to impose gender roles and stereotypes on to everything. How can feminists honestly watch this video and claim that they are discriminated against? Because this is one singular event to whic…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/15 06:11 AM
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Xemnas has an intense preoccupation with Internet forums he wants to access the gym on a regular basis but often delays this and instead spends time on internet he is spending a lot of time on online forums and talking about forming relationships. He has been banned in some forums for his extreme views Hahahaha, omfg duuuuude, ur killing me. My question is, is this the way that the Blue Pill views Redpillers? Well, if by blue pill, you mean your psych (cuz this is how your psych views you, and I…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/15 11:16 PM
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Really? Do you have an citation for that? here is a georgia strait cover of a previous slutwalk to the one in the video (it's annual, this one's from 2012). They described the special focus on normalizing and legalizing sex work.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/15 10:23 PM
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That makes zero sense. A lot of these participants are former sex workers. They're the regulationists to the the radfem abolitionists (i.e. they want to coexist with the system instead of tearing it down a la radical feminism). They want implementation of safe sex work practice and standards. They believe that sex work should be a viable and respectful way to earn a living. Why would they want to respect or regulate a dead industry?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/15 10:08 PM
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Remember the slutwalk? I don't know if you saw it, but it floated around a while back, the one with that Lauren Southern girl interviewing people at slutwalks? It depends on the chapter, but most (and the one in the video) support sex workers and are in favor for the decriminalization of sex work.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/15 09:48 PM
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Right, so there was no possible way to interpret your statement as accusatory? Not the way I see it? Seems like a tenuous link at best. In fact, personal attacks in this sub is supposed to be highly frowned upon. AWALT is a biological tendency that doesn't account for choices. It's still not a sufficient descriptor of what is normal. I mean, it's sufficient for RP to decide how they should act in all interactions with women, choices be damned, but whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/15 09:40 PM
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How does agreeing with AWALT make me abnormal? Where the fuck did I say that? The whole point was that, as someone who agrees with AWALT, you should have a better idea of what a "normal" woman is, since you believe that all women are a certain way. Victim complex much?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/15 09:27 PM
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Define normal Well, I mean, we're not the ones that have AWALT as a core concept...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/15 09:00 PM
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If the feminist movement is so pro women being able to sell sex Some of them are. Do you even pay attention to feminist movements? I mean, it's a large, diverse movement with a lot of different branches. Not all feminists are pro-prostitution, but all the people supporting legalization are feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/15 08:52 PM
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Legal prostitution harms women That's an opinion. All feminists are pro-women, they just have a disagreement on which is the best way to go about it. Some people believe that by decriminalizing prostitution, it makes it easier for the law to protect prostitutes and other at-risk women. Others think that removing sex-work altogether is the only way. If you actually paid attention to women's issues and feminism, you would know this.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/15 08:45 PM
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No, feminists are one of the few driving forces FOR the legalization of prostitution in America. COYOTE, one of the few organization focused on legalizing prostitution in the states is founded by a feminist. Not all feminists are pro-prostitution, and not all the supporters are loud advocates, but you'll find that almost all the supporters are feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/15 08:43 PM
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it doesn't change the fact you have those rights on the good graces of the State. Well, obviously. I'm just pointing out the standards by which I'm defining human rights for reference. America disagrees and says you've got to earn it Yes, and America has a justification for it (financial). Just like Saudi Arabia has justification for cruel corporal punishment (religion) and various African nations have justification for female genital mutilation (culture). You can disagree with their justificati…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/15 07:45 AM
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what we call 'human rights' are really just privileges afforded to us by the State Aren't they actually decided by the UN? Or at least, that's the definition I'm roughly going by. Sure, it's an arbitrary line in the sand, but this line is drawn and justified by a set of ethical standards. I wanna hear why (whining aside) this guy thinks his "right to sex" deserves be on the other side of that line.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/15 07:16 AM
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No, you still haven't explained. Why do you think sex is a right? People are entitled to food, clean water and air because they will die without it. You won't die from lack of sex. There are people who lived their whole life as virgins. Healthcare is a right because to leave people suffering with treatable diseases is cruel and unethical. (Though there is a lot of debate about this one, especially with regards to costs). Education is a right because it promotes freedom and empowerment. It protec…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/15 07:03 AM
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Maybe it's time for you to join hands with the feminists and work towards legalizing prostitution in the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/15 06:49 AM
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Most people are fairly dependent until 18 And most people don't get married until they're much older than 18. It doesn't even matter, because you seem to be under the impression that people who "mooch" should do as their parents expect. You're not even arguing that parents have their children's best interest at heart (imo, this is the better argument). You think that people's life decisions should be purchasable through social and financial support. That, by helping someone out, you are somehow …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/15 06:43 AM
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Why is society doing NOTHING? Simple: because you're not entitled to sex. Sex, contrary to what you believe, is not a right. Why do you think it is a right? This whole post can be reduced to this single, fundamental disagreement.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/15 05:50 AM
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to be a leech on your family's resources That's a false assumption. Don't project your personal situation onto others. Plenty of people are independent. They maintain a great relationship with their family for social reasons, not financial necessity. Most adults are given (or supposed to be given) the means to become an independent before they marry. By your logic, neither men nor women should get to choose whom to marry. not respect their wishes. There's this thing called personal boundaries. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/15 05:44 AM
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We have plenty of personal freedom in Turkey. The current administration isn't respecting that, but it stands nonetheless. Keep exercising that theoretical freedom m8. I already said our strong islamic values is one of the many shields protecting our culture's family structure from the degenrate feminists and their malformed ideology. Your strong Islamic values are also protecting you from non-hypothetical personal freedom. As I've said, it's not feminism that's antagonistic or "degenerate", it'…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/15 05:29 AM
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You don't see any of this stuff in Turkey (ancestral home) and I sure as hell didn't see it in Arabia Because those countries are distinctly Muslim. They're also severely lacking in personal freedom. They haven't suffered the virus of feminism Feminism definitely exists in east Asia. The people there are just more agreeable and diplomatic, unlike westerners. The antagonistic attitude isn't a feminism thing, it's a western thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/15 01:00 AM
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Men don'#t choose Tell me, in what way has "feminism" inhibited your ability to decide whether or not you want to marry someone? Are "feminists" forcing you into arranged marriages?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/15 12:36 AM
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Is it still wrong if the family gives her the option to either be disowned, or do as they will? What do you mean by "wrong"? I'm pretty sure it's legal, you see it here and there. Many women in the west still live under this kind of patriarchal oppression. (Think cults) Is it moral? No, I don't think so. Trying to force your opinion on someone and threatening to deprive them of contact with their family is toxic and narcissistic behavior. That being said, if the family in question is toxic and n…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/15 12:33 AM
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We’ve seen both RP and BP make the argument “It’s my/her/his nature” to explain away and excuse hypergamous behavior in women and man-whoring behavior in men. We’ve seen it used to explain homosexuality, pedophilia (seriously, spend some time in r/sex), rape (again, see r/sex), and dozens of other fundamentally uncivilized behaviors. There's a difference in that, though I would agree that it's not a valid argument. RP uses "it's my/her/his nature" to justify shitty behavior. BP uses it to unders…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/15 06:33 AM
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There was a huge upsurge during the rise of feminism during the late 20th century. Feminism in the west came in 3 waves. The first was in the 19th century. Second was between 60s and 80s. The third (modern feminism) was early 90s to present. I mean, correlation really isn't causation, but it's not like we seen a strong correlation between crime rates and waves of feminism. There was a peak in murder and assault in the 1989-1990 mark in the data you gave, but it's been in decline ever since. We'v…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/15 03:33 AM
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I don't actually know any women who idolize or reward bad behavior in men. In fact, the bad behavior (aggressively pursuing, not taking no for an answer, harassing, lying, demeaning women, being a jerk) is actually a nuisance to the female friends I do have. I'm not saying they've never dated a jerk, but they don't date the jerk because he's a jerk. They dated him because he is cool/funny/confident/good-looking, or the jerk asked them out and they thought they would give him a chance. There are …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/15 12:49 AM
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But feminism has helped created a peculiar kind of murderer ... a feminized man without purpose who turns to anger, then lashes out at society ... it has created a problem that did not commonly exist before. I dunno man, correlation is not causation. Besides, if you're gonna roll that way, crime rate has gone wayyy down since the rise of feminism. Plenty of people growing up in "the era of feminism" don't turn out to be mass murderers. In fact, less people than ever became murderers.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/15 12:33 AM
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The rapist can try as he might but if she's in a group, maybe carrying pepper spray, being in public well lit areas, then he's not gonna be too successful. If you are never alone with a woman, she can't accuse you of rape. Stay close to a friend, start a buddy system. Going to the bathroom? Grab a buddy. They can vouch for you if push comes to shove. If you are always in public well lit areas, it would be a great alibi. Walking home alone at night? Call a friend and talk to them while you walk. …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/15 05:52 AM
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Governments are self-interested Yeah, but as I've mentioned, you are part of the people, which has influence over the government. Hence, part of that self-interest in government is towards its own people. You're not independent of this society. You enjoy a lot of benefits of social services and you are protected by its laws. As far as elections go, maybe it's time to take a leaf out of the American's books and try to elect a meme candidate.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/15 07:13 PM
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Make up your fucking mind What the hell are you going on about? You were the one tone policing and bringing up rules about "no personal attacks/my feelings are hurt". I'm trying to steer you back to facts, but you keep taking everything I say as a personal offense even after I told you they were not meant to be taken as such. Make up your fucking mind and just answer the question: why exactly don't you think women were second class citizens historically?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/15 06:54 PM
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I didn't interpret it as a serious question. So you're taking offense at my tone? Isn't that what you accuse feminists of doing? How can you handle Russia and "the muslims" if you're so sensitive about a bit of criticism? Seems like you can't handle my freedom of speech. You know, as a feminist, it's hard to take offense when you keep doing it for me. Your implication that I knew nothing about history was a deliberate insult No, it was actually a legit question. Why don't you prove me wrong by a…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/15 07:23 AM
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personal attacks are against the rules here That was actually a serious question followed up by a helpful suggestion. TheChemist158 (in another thread) just asked me to try to be more civil I don't know if you've noticed, but I'm not TheChemist158. She's pretty polite and well-informed though, unlike you. but I'm certainly not going to put up with this kind of this supercilious bullshit Sounds like someone who can dish it but can't take it. If your feelings and ego can't handle a bit of snark, m…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/15 05:27 AM
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Ask literally anyone who lives in my country "do you believe government is for the people?" and the vast majority would disagree with that statement. I think that's the sort of attitude that got David Cameron elected in the first place. Have you considered that there may be more to the government than David Cameron? I mean, last I checked, there were still roads and buses, public schools, public healthcare, and no rioting poor people on the streets. It's a little melodramatic to live in one of t…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/15 01:55 AM
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They were never actually "second class citizens" (at least not the white women and certainly not the aristocratic women You realize that for a long time, women were property? They didn't have the right to own their own homes? They were only allowed a very narrow selection of careers? They couldn't vote? They weren't allowed to have credit cards? There was very little knowledge about women's health? You do realize that, right? What has aristocracy got to do with anything? Aristocrats aren't most …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/15 01:40 AM
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If you really think government is "by the people and for the people" you must be living in a utopian paradise far away from Earth. If you think your government is not at all by the people and for the people, then you have a lot to learn about taking things for granted. The fact that you're even here bitching about your government says a ton. It's a great privilege to be a part of a society that's so stable and well managed, all of which you can thank your government for. Are things absolutely pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/15 12:46 AM
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A more serious answer to the tax thing though, that's more a legal obligation to the government than to society. You do know the government is by the people and for the people, right? (In theory, anyway). Obviously they will make you pay taxes. You enjoy a lot of benefits of this society, so you have to pay in. It's not a optional thing, and even the "fuck society" psychopaths like you will be forced to pay the bare minimum.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/15 12:36 AM
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men deciding they don't owe women not to use manipulative (and sometimes borderline abusive) sexual strategy Yeah, nah, I don't think it is okay for either gender to use manipulative and abusive "strategies". Is it legal? Sure. Is it moral? No. I find it interesting that you think "choosing who you want to have sex with" is morally equivalent to "using whatever manipulative/abusive strategies to get sex". I think your conservative vs. liberal argument would work better if the parties were revers…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/15 12:23 AM
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I live in a society doesn't mean I have any obligation to it. Well, extenuating circumstances aside, you do have to pay taxes, so in that way, you do have an obligation: you are obligated to pay taxes. Your tax money goes partially towards people with kids, so those kids will be around to run things when you get old. There are also probably laws you have to follow. If you don't, you will be thrown in jail, along with all the other people who feel as if they "don't have any obligation to society"…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/15 12:01 AM
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Keep going. It's fun stuff isn't it ? Not that interested in the mating customs of the na people of the tibetan highlands, no offense. Tell me the exact pages of either study that supports your idea now or I'm just gonna assume you don't have anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/15 11:19 PM
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Yeah, I'm gonna second the request for you to post exact parts. I'm 24 pages into the second study and I have yet to see anything that suggest women are "irrational, inconsistent, don't prefer using logic, easy to compromise, etc, etc". And evo psych is barely science. Evo psych makes the real sciences look bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/15 11:10 PM
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can women truly handle living in a society of total equality between the genders? Well, given that most of them have handled living in a society where they were second class citizens, I think they'll be able to handle living in a society of total equality, y'know? Kind of like how, if you can handle the deep end at a pool, you can probably handle the kiddie end. They can't seem to handle whenever people exercise the right to free speech Ok, a bit of a thing here. What is "can't handle", exactly?…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/15 10:45 PM
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So you didn't actually read and consider them closely. No, you didn't read and consider them closely. No, I beleive almost all of them to be accurate I also "beleive" almost all of them to be inaccurate and I have also observed behaviors in women all around me in the past histories, friends, family, close relations. These descriptions are inaccurate information expressed in a convenient way for men to believe and hold onto. I also "beleive" (come on, dude, doesn't your web-browser have built in …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/15 08:47 PM
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more negative than the mainstream summary of how women's brains and relationship needs work. It's also very inaccurate. I'm very pragmatic, so I wouldn't call it negative so much as accurate. I'm also very pragmatic, and I would say you're very misinformed. I think it's honest in the same way bible thumpers are honest. They truly believe it with all their hearts. Doesn't make them right, of course. Because I think I'd score the first block, the anti-biotic nuke 10 (accurate) 2 (accurate.. If ame…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/15 07:52 PM
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women behaving in a manner which demonstrates that they neither want nor deserve equality with men No, see, equality is a right. People deserve that by just existing. It's like the freedom of speech. Americans have that right just by being American. So I don't really know what you mean by "deserving", they don't need to "deserve equality" (that would be a privilege), they are, by definition, entitled to it. after a half-century of uninterrupted feminist propaganda and conditioning Not a lot of t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/15 07:40 PM
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The underlying implication is that there's nothing wrong with society I disagree with this as well. I also think the mainstream is in denial. For centuries, western men have lived in an unabashedly patriarchal society. A lot of men are having trouble adjusting to a more egalitarian society, one in which they are not entitled to relationship or sex. Some of them talk about it angrily on the internet (women are sluts because they sleep with people they want to!) a few turn to violence (if I can't …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/15 10:37 AM
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Yeahhh, there is a lot of things to go through here, so apologies if I missed anything. Basically it's sexist because it says anything specifically bad about women. No, it said that all women were a specific, douchey way (AWALT), and every example that support it is #truth and every example that doesn't support it is anecdotal evidence. So yeah, no, it's not "sexist because it says bad things about women", it's sexist because it supports and upholds the patriarchal notion that all women are irra…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/15 10:19 AM
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I didn't see much opposition at all from TBP to that thread Isn't it labelled as a question for redpill? Why should BP be opposing anything?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/15 08:36 AM
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Well, I don't like all men, just as I don't like all women. With the rise of transgenderism, there really isn't one given thing that definitively separates all men from all women. I guess some men are feminists and in those men, I admire the bravery they have in the face of greater social pressure? I also like holding doors open for men (and women), because I walk really fast and usually get to the door first.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/15 08:25 AM
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It doesn't matter what the law is - that's clear when we just recently had gay marriage not be legal. Laws change all the time, doesn't mean they stop being relevant. I don't know what your example about gay marriage means, not everyone is American. Sex has an initiator, just like tea-drinking: someone makes the tea. Drunk people who initiate sex without regard for the consent of their sex partner (drunk or sober) is a rapist. Just like stealing while drunk still makes you a thief. If someone is…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 08:38 AM
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Are you one of those who believe that intoxication prevents ability to consent? Are you one of those who don't? Consent is pretty well defined in the laws I live under. If you're too drunk to drive, you're too drunk to consent. Here is a fun video that explains consent.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 08:15 AM
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I think it would be helpful to point out the boundaries and definition of consent to them, so they are more aware of their actions and the actions of their peers. Not all rape happens in a dark alleyway with some black-clad rapist armed with a knife. Females victims of rape, just like female victims of murder, are more likely to be raped and murdered at the hands of an intimate partner or someone they know. These rapists aren't necessarily maladjusted deranged individuals. Most of them are relat…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 07:58 AM
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dat eurocentrism. dat western exceptionalism. It's a real thing, y'all. People have been getting married in ancient china for ages before your god came around. And Hinduism is the oldest religion. Look it up. Read a book. Your ignorance is as astounding as it is frightening.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 06:58 AM
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It's either harassment or it isn't. So is online harassment a thing or no? Cuz if you don't even think it's a thing, the whole discussion is moot. "well you aren't as harassed as we are, shut up you're fine" Or maybe certain groups face a specific type of harassment on top of the rest of the humdrum? Why is this so hard to wrap your head around? All they're asking is for you to maybe consider that minority groups face unique forms of harassment (hardly a new or difficult concept). I find it inte…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 06:15 AM
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Over the whole age range, it appears to even out (9% to 6%) but young women 18-24, were much more likely to be stalked than young men 18-24 (26% to 7%). I think it's better to have anti-murder programs targeted towards men, since 90% of the murderers are male. I also support anti-rape programs teaching men not to rape for the same reasons: the perpetrators are overwhelmingly male.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 06:07 AM
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[citation needed] Btw, "survival situations", are we talking, like, zombie apocalypse? Hollywood-style alien invasion? Reality TV stranded-on-island premise? You do realize that those are not an accurate portrayal of real life, right? So much for not being manipulated by the mainstream media. Say what you want, but the fact that women won't even approach you speaks volumes about the disconnect between your self-perceived value and actual value. There's no "must" in approaching someone romantical…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/15 05:36 PM
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Because another definition of fair is legitimate. You can have the opinion that Obama has terrible table manners, but unless you've dined with him personally, or seen him dining, people can say that it's an unfair judgement. You can say that all women are sluts and whores, and that BDSM is tied to pedophilia, and those would be unfair judgement as well. Judgement implies that the opinion is made grounded in reality, which those objectively aren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 05:49 PM
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Well, first and foremost, I don't entirely agree with OP, so you're gonna have to be specific which part of OP's argument I supposedly agree with. I already explained in another post why not all opinions are equal. For example, it would be accurate or justifiable to think Donald Trump is anti-women, based on his political positions and the way he speaks to them. However, it would be inaccurate and unreasonable to think all pitbulls violently bite people based on the actions of a few pitbulls (AP…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 05:40 PM
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No, I disagree with OP's premise about fairness. And you're definitely allowed to judge and have opinions about other people. But that doesn't automatically make your opinion right, or even reasonable. There's a reason why acting on certain opinions is illegal (blacks are inferior to whites), so while your opinion might not be able to have a terrible, direct effect on someone, it's still adding to a sexist culture, so I disagree with the notion that it's "not affecting anyone".
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 05:27 PM
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Well, good to know at least you're not a hypocrite on top of everything else. It's a false belief to think all opinions are equal. For example, someone can say that it's their deeply held belief that HIV doesn't exist (objectively wrong) or that God told them to picket funerals (unproven). If the best defense for your position is that you're allowed to have it, there's really not much going for that, is there? You can think that your opinion of Bill Cosby won't affect anyone, but you're still pa…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 05:20 PM
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Yeah, but Redpill is an ideology. You don't have to subscribe to it, but you choose to. Being a woman isn't. I would say it's unreasonable to judge something someone has no control over (AWALT) vs judging someone for their conscious choice and opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 05:05 PM
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People don't know me, but they cuss me out for being an evil Red Piller. But fair's fair, right? You think they're cucks and super sluts, they think you're a rapist. Everyone is entitled to their opinions.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 05:00 PM
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You didn't really answer my question, though. I asked what happens, by which I mean, do they have the same crisis as TRP? Is there a female equivalent of that? Why or why not? How did you manage to fit hypergamy into the middle of nowhere? I haven't objected to anything yet, I just wanted OP to clarify and expand on his position. How about you take a chill pill and maybe sit down in the corner until you've calmed down?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/15 01:07 AM
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the stereotypes of wider society, which is that single mothers are heroes Is this really a stereotype? I mean, nobody is gonna say it to her face (because we are polite) but everyone knows that she fucked up to some degree. Even single mother dating sites acknowledge the general perception of single mothers as used/damaged goods (however unfair those may be). It also goes towards single dads, but I think it's generally harder to find out if a guy is a single dad, since he doesn't usually live wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/15 12:04 AM
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Men are often raised and taught these sugar-coated, false truths while growing up, and believe them. This creates a huge problem because They aren't really true in a modern, liberal community of women. I'm curious as to what you think happens to all the women who were raised with these sugar-coated false truths growing up. And where are the men that were raised in these modern, liberal communities?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/15 11:17 PM
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Burr points out Cherry-picked the easiest parts of motherhood and child-rearing? How nice that he overlooked that part about having to get up several times every night for months because the newborn needs to be fed. It really depends on how you define "difficult". Men are simply too horny to correct idiot women. So they are irrational, sex-driven beings with poor judgement?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/15 11:11 PM
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she sounds like someone I would not be interested in, and I don't really see myself getting involved in someone like this at all. I'm not interested in someone so much more dominant and experienced than myself. (prefer a more equal approach). As how I would respond, well, short of ending the possibility of the relationship right there, I don't think there's a good way to spin the "really care about me" reason. I think caring about someone involves taking their feelings into account, rather than …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/15 10:53 PM
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I learned the hard way that only white men on there are allowed to have preferences and talk sexual strategy. Minorities are not allowed to get important advice and god forbid you ever talk about how to get white girls. Hey! Just fyi, this is known as systematic racism and white privilege! It's not a horrible, traumatizing thing, but it sure is everywhere. It's awful because those white guys will never even try to see it from the minority's POV (aka, refusing to acknowledge their privilege). Sim…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/15 09:59 AM
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the type of men who have led revolutions Not necessarily true anymore. The nerds at silicon valley are revolutionizing the way the world operates and most of them don't fit into the stereotype of the muscular, confident, manly alpha. The ones I've met tend to be skinny, socially awkward, and kind of eccentric. Even TV personalities like John Oliver or Oprah (flabby British guy and chubby black woman) can bring about huge social change without fitting into the macho revolutionary mold.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/15 04:47 AM
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I think the nonconforming men tend to be more familiar with the shitty side of the patriarchy, so they are more likely to be feminist. Why is being manly and macho needed to lead revolutions? What's wrong with enjoying a strap-on? I don't understand the vitriol against nonconforming men. Maybe a hundred years ago, when people still hit each other with sharp sticks, being a macho dude was pretty important. But nowadays, we have drones and shit. Revolutions happen online, lead by the people who ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/15 04:34 AM
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First off, I'm bluepill cuz I make fun of redpillers. That's the bloop requirement. Stop with the "I'm blue pill material" or "your sisterhood" or "liberal state" (do you even know where I live?) Ease up on your projections and assumptions, mmkay? This article is not scientific, but point 3 claims that roughly 1 in 3 women have trouble cumming. I can try to find a scientific source if this isn't enough. Sex can be just as enjoyable for women, but it often isn't. Especially NSA sex where everyone…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/15 06:10 AM
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Polygamy isn't very prevalent in the west. (I'm assuming you're north american/west European?) And unless there are men who are secretly dating a bunch of women, women aren't all in happy relationships/being courted by a ton of guys. You're looking on the wrong side of the internet. You don't find a ton of girls on omegle or mmorpgs. You're looking in the wrong places. Those places have a large male to female ratio. Even most parts of Reddit is male heavy. Casual sex is more risky and less enjoy…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/15 04:52 AM
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Yeah, but all these WGTOW women would still rather occasionally bang the average guy than go into a relationship with the "FA". What I'm trying to point out is that the promise of a committed relationship doesn't necessarily have the same weight as it might have had 100 years ago. Women have options now. They can make their own money and own their own homes. Marriage/relationship with a man is no longer a requirement for an decent life style. It's not that women are all in relationships with guy…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/15 04:18 AM
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I think this is kind of a false premise. The world is roughly half female (slightly more female, actually) How many has this guy met to say "all women"? Unless there is a sudden spike in polygamy, there is going to be as many single females as there are males. The female to male ratio is not going to be that skewed. Even with china killing all of their female babies, the gender ratio for the world has remained stable. So I think that's the first thing this guy needs to get out of his head; this …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/15 05:05 AM
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there must be a group of men at the bottom, who just can't get women whatsoever, while women can easily get the men who settle for them. Since the world population is technically 51% female, how do you reckon this actually works? Not attacking, just curious. Is there a section of men at the top who gets a mini harem?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/15 04:23 AM
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Mediocre strawman. You are dumber than I thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 07:17 AM
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No, there are other ways of getting a date without asking. This is a false premise.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 07:16 AM
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Doesn't work that way. Sex is a commodity and one that is important to attain for men's health. There's always masturbation, and I am also pro-prostitution. Everything can be a commodity. All of this falls under social repercussions and opportunity costs. The feminists that defy gender roles also faced rejection from their community and competition from the other women who were more willing to conform, among other things. Your opportunity cost is occasionally missing out on sex. Malala Yousafzai…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 06:16 AM
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Yeah, I got the gist of it from your last post. It just has absolutely no relevance to my suggestion for you to stop asking women out, if you don't want to ask women out. Just stop. There is nothing in your way. I also don't think "the species" will die out if men stopped asking women out. I think that's a very American-centric view of the world. There are many cultures where it is much more common for parents of unmarried adults to arrange meet-ups and courtships. If, for whatever reason, men-a…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 04:49 AM
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So are you a eugenicist like Margret Sanger? I have no idea who that is, so I'm gonna go with no. I'm just saying, if you don't want to ask women out, then don't. This is a non-issue. Stop asking people out. Like, whenever you catch yourself approaching a woman you might ask out, turn around and run away.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 04:38 AM
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If men stopped approaching women the species would die in a generation. Dat self importance. Only one way to test it, yes? We have an overpopulation problem anyway. If it hurts so much to ask people out on a date, then stop asking. I mean this in a very literal sense, so don't read too much into it. Stop hurting yourself. If you think this system is unfair, then stop adhering to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 04:28 AM
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men are expected to ask out women Time to buck the trend, don't you think? If you don't like this, do what women who don't like gender roles have been doing for decades: stop following them. Oh, wait, that comes with social repercussions and opportunity costs? Well, they always do. Except it's gonna cost you, like, a chance to get laid, as opposed to your career or livelihood or whatever. I don't understand this whole line of thinking. men are expected to pay! > people who ask should pay > men a…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 04:21 AM
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I'm sorry, I just don't understand the supposed conflict. Don't want to pay for her half of the dinner? Don't. How do I justify it? I don't. There's two ways to look at it: you can look at it as a preference or a sexist trope. Some people only like to date people who pay for their dinner, just like how some people only like to date thin/tall/white people. Some people like being treated like a charity case. These are preferences, and nobody should feel obligated to justify them. If you end up on …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 04:10 AM
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And you are full of shit for not understanding that men and women are different, both in biology and behavior Where in my post did I say women and men were the same? You can't just pull accusations out of your ass, y'know? (Well, you can, because you just did, but it's still not helpful to the discussion) There's more to someone than whether or not they can get pregnant, and individuals within a gender vary more greatly than the difference of the average of the two genders. You have more in comm…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/15 05:30 AM
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Third, a casual recommendation or suggestion almost always contains a bit of humor. riiight, that is some seriously strong distinction. I personally find the post funny in its own right. Kind of a persuasive satire, if you will. Debating with Chad Thundercock? Feminism and Terpism being moral equivalents? It's bluepill hilarity at its finest.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/15 04:57 AM
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rich coming from a blooper You do realize that "bloopers" have nothing in common except for the fact that they all think RP is full of shit? The presumption is real. Humans do follow trends and bell curves, and despite what you want to think, you really are not that tragically different from some chick who won't date you. Language is a form of human communication, and communication is an exchange of information. I didn't say "language is a bridge", I said everyone has small differences in perspe…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/15 04:42 AM
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the constant bleats and wails I wouldn't know about that, since I mostly choose to surround myself with positive people who don't spend their time whining about things. How are you different from Amanda Marcotte? You're doing the same thing except you're screaming at women "well, you just need to be more content" and it's also not going to make women more content or attractive. Except there are actual steps, like dressing better/working out/plastic surgery, to improving your looks but there aren…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/15 09:55 PM
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Why do you think there is so many jokes and pokes at women when people say "nobody knows what women want" Probably because those people are usually men and making fun of women is a patriarchal tradition? Maybe men don't know what women want because for most of history, they don't need to know what women want, as they are the privileged class and the world is built to reflect what they like.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/15 09:43 PM
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No, women have recently changed everything. No, people still go on dates, people still get married. Courtship is still a thing. Don't be so melodramatic. women self report crushing unhappiness all the time Just like men and people in general? I don't know dude. Something tells me that if someone is unhappy, repeatedly screaming "YOU NEED TO BE CONTENT" at them probably isn't going to make them happier. It's on par with screaming "YOU NEED TO STOP TAKING HEROIN" at drug addicts as rehab. Or I cou…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/15 09:32 PM
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women created the sexual market place we now have Well, not really. The sexual market place has been under the control of men for the past few milleniums, and women have only recently started changing a few things. Women seem more and more unhappy. Well, that's just, like, your opinion man. Everyone complains, it's just that you can now read about men bitching about women bitching about men over the internet at any time of the day. I don't know what you are trying to discuss, exactly. Why don't …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/15 09:12 PM
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I think the problem here is that you generalize about an entire race I also think he seriously generalize about other people's tastes. Just because you have preferences, doesn't mean everyone shares them, OP. I, for one, am extremely fond of the face sag, swearing, and "died" hair.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/15 08:35 PM
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But it's not just her, my sisters, mother, step mom and past girlfriends. Interesting. Have you considered that maybe your father is fond of emotionally stunted women, which in turn impressed on you as a child leading you to often attract and form intimate relationships with other emotionally stunted women? Also, I disagree, I think you need to have a certain level of intelligence to be intellectual, but not necessarily the other way around. They are certainly linked, however. There's a correlat…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/15 08:27 PM
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I say blue, you think cyan ~youre cheer captain and I'm on the bleachers~ DAE think women aren't real nerds like me? Get over yourself dude. And stop pretending to know what other people are thinking. The whole "Snowflake me vs. Other ppl" maymay wasn't good even when TSwift did it. Everyone has different experiences, regardless of gender. The whole point of language is to bridge these discrepancies. Besides, women don't think anything when you mention spiderman cuz women obviously don't watch s…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/15 08:20 PM
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My lady is smart but she can't justify Most of the stuff that comes out of her mouth. So, like, by what measure do you determine her "smartness"? Is she like one of those asperger math savants?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/15 08:04 PM
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"Tony Tiger have evolved to manipulate the environment to sell cold cereal. Captn Crunch have evolved to manipulate children to sell cold cereal. None of this has been researched. I'm not even sure if it's a real quote. But it sure does look more legitimate between quotation marks"
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/15 08:01 PM
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Option 3 is the best fit from the tone and context. How is it different from the buzzfeed article? I mean, we can all draw arbitrary lines in the sand, but the fact is that the BP post uses the exact same words and sentence structures. What makes you think one is a "harmless suggestion" but the other is "BRAINWASHING THE MASSES"? I'm genuinely curious how you make this distinction. For a visitor of a sub that claims content is paramount, you sure do police tones a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/15 07:44 PM
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Brigading is xposting a PPD thread on another sub and their users coming here to downvote. I guess that's just what comes with subs that comment on other subs? I mean, it's by default linked to a read-only version of the thread, but people can still look it up. That's more of a reddit thing than just bluepill. I don't think votes are a good way of measuring opinions on PPD anyway, it's a debate, not a democracy; it only means something if they actually type up a response. Lastly, is it really of…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/15 12:07 PM
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Redpill's brand of sexism is neither original nor rare, despite what you think. You're not the first person I've met to spew about "prime pussy/women are sluts/[generic rape joke here]", nor will you be the last. Pretty much every women have experienced sexism and most of them didn't break down crying in public. Sorry dude, you're not as offensive as you think you are. (But nevertheless unpleasant enough that some people don't want to interact with you if they don't have to). Also lol "better th…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/15 09:58 AM
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Suggest to BPers to come back here and debate then Why would I do that? If they want to come here, they'll find their own way. But if they can't handle Maybe they just don't want to? They already know your opinion, or they wouldn't be making fun of it on bluepill. I don't think this is a case of "can't handle", I think they just don't want to talk to you. Some people have better things to do with their lives than arguing on the internet. Besides, I've honestly seen a lot more RP downvote brigade…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/15 08:14 AM
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Of course not. And that buzzfeed article definitely told me that I should have caramelized onion, eggplant and tomato pasta for dinner this week. Do you always do what people on the internet tells you? cult I'm claiming that "Why you should do x" is just another unoriginal, age old trope of a title (evidence: it's on buzzfeed). Most non-crazy people cult don't take it literally, just like most non-crazy people cult don't take the bible literally.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/15 07:53 AM
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What gives them the right to tell other human beings what internet reddit sites they can and cant visit? Do you always take titles on the internet so seriously? Because something tells me you're going to have a bad time. Like, what gives buzzfeed writers the right to tell other human beings what they should eat for dinner this week? I'm so fucking outraged. The nerves of some people.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/15 07:29 AM
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Looks like a list of suggestions. If you're going to say the RP's post "15 Reasons To NOT Date A Single Mom" is a suggestion, I can call "why you shouldn't post on PPD" a suggestion.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/15 07:24 AM
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"hey look! I, too, can write random sentences and put them in quotations!" - George Washington If you're gonna take things out of context, can you at least link a post?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/15 07:17 AM
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Of course. I think this is actually the norm and the other options, including "satisfying, loving romantic relationships", are the exceptions. How should someone act? I think they need to change themselves. While the issue isn't always on the person per se, changing the way you handle yourself and the way you interact with the world is probably the best and simplest way to solve the problem. For example, a closeted gay man trapped in an unhappy marriage to a woman would have to muster up the cou…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/15 07:06 AM
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as all the theoretical and empirical evidence suggests Do you have any links that could back these up?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/15 08:12 AM
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lol look at that funny two-liner! Awesome joke, bro. Do you actually have anything to contribute?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/15 01:04 AM
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ots of publications that use intraspecific r/K selection theory Can you link one? I'm having trouble finding studies that uses intraspecific and r-K theory in the same sentence. I'm not sure what life history theory has to do with anything. It doesn't talk about r-k selection in an intraspecific context.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 11:09 PM
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AF/BB takes r vs K, and applies it to modern-day context. And you shouldn't. r vs K theory is applied to whole species. r is characterized by sparse environment, fast maturity and large number of offsprings. K is characterized by dense environment, slow maturity and few offsprings. There are some species that falls in between, like sea turtles or trees. But all humans are K-strategists. It has nothing to do with how many women you banged and everything to do with the fact that humans usually hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 09:35 PM
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The name climate change was originally coined because scientists were aware of the fact that the global climate was changing due to human activities, but they weren't completely sure if it was going to get warmer or cooler. Today, climate change refers to many other ways that the environment has been altered due to human activity, including rising sea-levels and melting ice-caps. NASA presents the evidence more thoroughly on their website.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/15 07:47 AM
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Yeah, I think I responded in my other comment to /u/ECoast_Man about my thoughts on minimizing the issue by comparing the problem to a something that has the problem to a worse degree. For example, there are parts of the internet that is more heavily censored than reddit, but it doesn't mean reddit is free of censorship.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/15 07:43 AM
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I think you sent this while I was typing up the response to you, then I saw your second message where you said your question was deleted. Did I answer your question? If not, could you repeat it?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/15 07:20 AM
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Mind if I Sure. It's the internet, no need to ask for permission.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/15 07:12 AM
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Yeah, because unlike the widely accepted evolutionary psychology half of TRP is based on, Global Warming is super controversial in the scientific community.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/15 01:23 AM
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scientists globally don't have a consensus on Care to give some anti-climate change scientific papers from a reputable source? Honestly curious. It's been explained to me as the normalization of rape. It includes slut-shaming (sluts can't be raped), victim blaming (she shouldn't have dressed like that) and objectification of women (portraying women as sexual objects reduces the amount of consideration extended towards victims and to-be victims) among many more. I think it varies from culture to …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/15 01:21 AM
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Oh look, you are capable of normal discussion after all. Was that so hard? Quick note, not every country is the US. I, for one, am not American. But US does have a problem with racism. Even the black president you elected admits it. Now on whether or not dark humor perpetuates racism, I believe it can. Humor can do a lot of things, it can bring attention to an issue or work as a mutual ground for racists. People use humor and comedy for a lot of things. For example, the "immigrants took our jerb…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/15 12:25 AM
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Are you new here? Nope, but your post does not contribute to the discussion at all. You're trying to pass your strawman off as satire. This seriously edges into the realm of circlejerking. But as I've said, I am willing to do my best to clarify my points, since I am here for discussion and debate. Feel free to message me or respond when you actually feel like having a rational discussion instead of "satirizing" because you don't have anything meaningful to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/15 12:01 AM
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Rape culture, rape culture! JP wants to rape Lauren Southern! No, that's not what I said, nor is it what rape culture is about. Your comment attempts to normalize rape, going as far as to use it as a compliment, that's textbook rape culture. peopleontheinternetfeelingimportantaboutthemselves I'm not even sure what you're going on about. I assumed this sub was for discussion and debate surrounding redpill. In no where on my post did I say anything about importance, I'm just pointing out the flaw …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/15 11:44 PM
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that's entitlement and women shouldn't feel entitled to any man! Very good! That's right, nobody is entitled to a relationship. feminismturnedonitshead No, not at all, why would you think that? Lauren Southern's understanding of rape culture is about as solid as her understanding of global warming, though she insists on making an ass of herself in these videos and at these events. It's kind of funny because you immediately proceeded to make a rape joke at her expense that's supposed to be taken …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/15 11:18 PM
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Nothing that they would disagree with is ever upvoted. A lot of anti-pao stuff got upvotes in the month of dramadan and most feminists are really pro-pao. I actually read feminist articles criticizing the Reddit treatment of pao. And that's one of many examples.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/15 07:51 PM
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Yeah but this is like a guy saying he's never seen a girl treated differently for being a girl. Not really, I'm literally saying that I've never seen a girl cry in public since maybe elementary school. I believe you, I just haven't seen it. Just out of interest, what are your expectations for when that data is broken down by gender? I haven't really thought about it, tbh. I reckon there will be as many men as women who find it sexist. The sentence was phrased in a way that made the not-benevolen…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/15 08:08 AM
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So both men and women rated men who were indifferent to gender as more sexist than men who were more deferential to women? Yes. Basically, the researcher set up an online survey where people were given a sentence declared by a man or a woman and decide whether or not this hypothetical man or woman were sexist. The sentence painted the hypothetical person as either a benevolent sexist or an egalitarian. People found the benevolent sexist man as less sexist than the egalitarian man. I think there …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/15 07:34 AM
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You can always talk to them...? Ask them about their life. Are they going to school? What do they study? Are they working? Where do they work? Why did they choose the work/study they did? Some people want to get by with minimal efforts, they tend to not have a very strong character or be very pragmatic. Some people are easily influenced by those around them, and that will affect their life choices. Other people are very stubborn and uncompromising; those tend to have very strong interests that t…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/15 06:45 AM
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People tout RP theory as if it's fact, explain it to you as if you're an idiot, and then call you stupid for not agreeing them. Then they tell you to re-read their post because it's your responsibility to make sense of their strawman!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/15 06:29 AM
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the idea that non-TRP is a kinder Is this actually a thing? I mean, like, there's that whole other thing TRP keep calling "Women are Wonderful Effect", which I really haven't seen at all. I mean, it is your problem if you choose to put someone else on a pedestal. Nobody likes being put on a pedestal, nobody likes being held to unreasonable standards. If someone say some fucked up shit, Imma call that person out. (Or sometimes I don't because I don't care enough). It doesn't mean I'm a better per…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/15 06:27 AM
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So, yes, when you treat women just like men, they perceive misogyny. Because -- surprise, surprise! -- women are more sensitive than men. Yeah, ok that study again. You can't conclude anything about women from it because the researcher didn't differentiate between the gender of the people answering the questions. (It included both men and women). It was simply a study on the reaction of general population (both men and women) towards benevolent sexism. Edit: Bonus Question: Is it possible that s…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/15 02:43 AM
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You're talking to the wrong guy, bub. I'm just giving a specific example, because OP said he couldn't think of one. I'm pretty sure there are plenty more out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/15 02:38 AM
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You said fat, ugly, and old I said fat, ugly, and old men. As in: fat men, ugly men, and old men. Though I find Alec Baldwin to be all three. Of course you can find plenty of old guys and the odd fat guy But why? Why is it that you can find old guys and fat guys starring in movies but old and/or fat women are always relegated to supporting characters? There are plenty of women who look good for their age and plenty of fat women who are neither old nor ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/15 02:37 AM
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a movie designed to appeal to womens emotions Which is why 57% of the movie goers were male, amirite? They were obviously sitting through some lame biopic for the sake of their lady.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/15 02:26 AM
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Dude even your fucking article says there's a bias against older women and it's trying to celebrate the few women who have managed to remain some-what relevant in a patriarchal industry. Read your shit before linking.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/15 02:18 AM
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Looks pretty mixed to me. I can't speak for GBH, because I didn't watch it, but Birdman is about an old movie star (guy) trying to get back into his career. The other ones you listed: Whiplash - Didn't watch it, but the only significant female casted was to play the Jazz dude's girlfriend. Nice. American Sniper - Struggles of an army dude Big Hero 6 - Young dude and his robot. Boyhood - boy grows into a dude Citizenfour & Crisis Hotline: Veterans Press 1 - I don't watch documentaries, but I know…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/15 02:08 AM
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You say men are catered to because most movie stars (people at the top) are men. No. I said men are catered to because most movies are made with men in mind. You can tell because there are a lot of male characters of all ages and sizes, in all sorts of stories. They can be superheroes, successful businessmen, adventurous space jedis, or even washed up ex-mafia bosses. The stories are centered around their struggles and their feelings. This has nothing to do with movie stars as people (just the r…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/15 01:36 AM
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I never uttered those words even once Where are all these patriarchal institutions that overshadow all those women's organizations? What do you expect film makers to spend more on for female targeted cinema? no, I expect them to spend the same amount, since 50% of the population is female. movies with a lot of action sequences and special effects are going to need a bigger budget, and? What has this got to do with anything? Twilight had its share of tacky CGI that could've been much better on a …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/15 01:26 AM
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That was a rhetorical question. I even gave an example myself (50 shades). I didn't mean it in the literal sense. There has been the occasional film for women (Julie & Julia, cake, pitch perfect) but they are seriously outnumbered. The guy in birdman was pretty old. There's grand Torino and mystic river if you want old guys (both very well received). And those are the old-old guys. Brad Pitt, George Clooney, Tom Cruise are all into their 50s and still starring in movies. Dd you see Tom Cruise sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/15 01:27 AM
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I didn't say only men watch movies, I said that most Hollywood movies cater more to men than women. You can tell by the way they cast the actors/actresses, the kind of films that get produced more often and with more funding. The kind of movie that wins awards.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/15 01:07 AM
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then you also have to include people like coal miners Why? What has coal miners got to do with anything? Im seriously confused.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/15 01:03 AM
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Did you even read the context of the conversation? I'm giving a single example of a patriarchal institution. How about you put that strawman down and take a step back? Deep breaths man, you're gonna be OK.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/15 01:01 AM
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Anonymity should be protected Because...? The ultimate decision to fire someone lies in the employer. If there is no case against you, you wouldn't be fired. If you think you have been unjustly fired, you can sue for discrimination (but not violation of freedom of speech). It has nothing to do with freedom of speech. You have no right to be free from the consequences of your action. Do you know how freedom of speech works? The law is based around justice. Can you actually point to something that…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/15 12:54 AM
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Spiderman? Batman? American Sniper? Guardians of the Galaxy? Bourne series? Birdman? Hurt Locker? Avatar? Hulk? Iron man series? Transformers series? Star wars? The hangover? For every female oriented movie, there's ten male oriented ones targeting everything from power fantasies to male angst.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/15 12:34 AM
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I'd much rather receive a death threat Then that's your opinion, isn't it? Too bad the law is different. People have the right to live without death threats. People also have the right to not associate with an asshole. There's no "right to be free of social consequences from the shit I say on the internet". It's just how it works. Edit: for example, you can say "I rather have a candy stolen from my desk than to be fired". But it's irrelevant what you want, because it's still illegal to steal but…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/15 12:18 AM
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You asked for a patriarchal institution and I gave you one. Not all institutions are political, and you didn't state political institution anyway. Sure they "want" money. There's tacky chickflicks here and there. But those movies are so poorly done most of the time, compared to films targeted to a male audience. Look at the budget for Twilight and compare that to your regular James Bond/superhero movie. (Wishfullfilment women vs. men). Look at the films that wins Oscars (self-declared most prest…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/15 11:46 PM
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Hating sluts is not the same as hating women. Yeah but where's the outrage for the reporter? Quinn doesn't owe anyone anything, you know? It's the reporter who technically owes the community honesty and integrity. It's misogynistic because it holds women to a different standard than men. Nobody is bashing Nathan Grayson for allegedly being a fuckboy and taking sex bribes. Nobody is bashing Quinn's ex for being a lying shit. It's all "Quinn took advantage of men". No. They're not helpless victims…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/15 11:21 PM
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Many immigrants from Asian countries arrive completely broke, work shit jobs, and their children end up in the ivy league It's one thing go be broke and another to have a history of poverty and to live with family in poverty. Ever heard of crabs in a bucket? Asian immigrants tend to be the smartest and brightest (they need to be to even make it out of Asia). A lot of the more recent ones are also economic migrants. They are usually over qualified for the job they work. You have hospital director…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/15 10:59 PM
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Clearly people wanted to bash her for being a slut And that's misogynistic. Say what you want about coulds and woulds. The claims weren't even verified and nobody gave a shit about the reporters she fucked either. All pressure was on Quinn for allegedly fucking her way to the top. Feminists weren't criticizing the outrage over the cover up, they were criticizing the general (ungrounded) slut shaming, rape and death threats. This just happened to compound with the general gaming community's outra…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/15 10:50 PM
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they'd be able to point to some concrete examples of this. One example would be the film industry. Look at Hollywood. How many actresses remain relevant after their 35th birthday? You have ugly guys, skinny guys, old guys ending up with hot young women. Even fucking Paul Blart: Mall Cop winds up with a decent looking gal at the end. How often do you see a portrayal of a fat woman (single parent, no less) with a hot guy? Where is the wishfullfilment for middle aged women? (50 shades is a recent p…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/15 10:24 PM
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It wasn't so much the blog post itself but the huge and widespread cover-up Orr the fact that most gamers took this as a cue to start bashing and blaming Zoe Quinn for being a slut who fucked her way to the top? Like, who was that kotaku reporter she allegedly slept with anyway? Do most gamergaters even know his name? Do they realize that between Quinn(spiracy) and Kotaku reporter, only one of them have a duty to write honest game reviews?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/15 10:00 PM
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Thank you. It only took four replies and two RPers this time! I actually disagree with the premise. I think both feminists and black activists have achieved a lot. I'm not sure if it is possible to compare them, but they've both come really far in the past two centuries. Poor career and college performance has more to do with the cycle of poverty than skin color.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/15 09:47 PM
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Riiight, but how in your argument are women less rational then men? Because that's really the discussion here. Or is it "survival imperative" in men and "feels" in women? Besides, most emotions these days are pretty divorced from actual survival. What was the last thing you were pissed about? Ten bucks says it was traffic or some shit that has nothing to do with your physical well-being. And there are plenty of depressed people who are not under immediate threat but not happy at all. We're no lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/15 09:40 PM
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serve the feminine imperative. I'm pretty sure "the one" Myth started before modern times and is sold to both men and women. The church was a pretty great advocate for monogamy, and it was a male dominant institution. This has less to do with serving women and more to do with the fact that the church and government simply don't want to spend their resources taking care of children more than necessary. Single parent families have generally done worse than two parent families and often require mor…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/15 07:19 PM
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How can that number be known then? Self-reporting polls with misleading questions again? You can read more about the data collection methods here. This one says 9% report rate instead of 6%. But the number of unreported is still higher than the number of false reports (91% > 2%). There is no reason to believe why anyone would lie about this, and it's really your problem if you do not believe statistics collected by researchers. There are plenty of reasons why some women would not report it (poss…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/15 08:42 AM
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I'm not saying that this has absolutely nothing to do with the subject at hand, but you literally haven't said anything beside quoting part of a study. Does it support a point you've made? (Oh wait, you haven't made one) Can you actually state a position? Do you know how debates work? (Protip: it involves more than copy and pasting studies you've found on the interwebs and hoping something in the quote makes sense)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/15 06:32 AM
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I think part of the problem here, part of your problem and mine, is that people cannot come to grips with the fact that they aren't special or original. A bit presumptuous of you, no? You know next to nothing about me. But no, being made to feel "unoriginal" isn't the reason why I don't agree with "MWALT". Speak for yourself. My problem with it lies in the fact that I don't actually know any women who are like that. "MWANLT"? The acronyms are getting a bit ridiculous. You can say that I live in …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/15 06:24 AM
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AWALT is not a rule every redpill abides by Yea, and someone posts an example of it every other day on that sub to approving responses. If you do not think AWALT is part of the redpill theory, you don't know the community. This is like saying "not all gay men like other men". No, that's in the definition of being gay. Definitions shouldn't be changed to fit special snowflake identities.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/15 12:25 AM
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I agree that women are able to more freely express their emotions. I think it's a bias in our society that we should examine. I also think there's a good reason why anger is less acceptable. It's generally the more lethal emotion. People do bad things while angry that they wouldn't do normally. (E.g. road rage) I, on the other hand, remain dispassionate and am willing to give up on my passions and my dreams if they don't "make sense" from a logical standpoint But then that's really more of a cas…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/15 12:10 AM
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Yeah, but most BP frankly don't give a shit. The PPD BP mods should just make some reasonable position and everyone else can go from there. And as I've said, there are plenty of pro/against debates. It's definitely possible. Not ideal, but possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/15 10:33 PM
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No, flip the rectangle and square analogy and you have something closer. Not all misogynists are redpill, but redpill is misogynistic. Redpill's idea of AWALT (prejudice against women) is by definition misogynistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/15 10:29 PM
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For sexual assaults in my country: http://www.sexassault.ca/statistics.htm 6% report rate and 2% false report rate (under the Myth vs. facts link). The domestic violence is harder because of the lack of data. But here: http://www.xyonline.net/content/fact-sheet-2-myth-women%E2%80%99s-false-accusations-domestic-violence-and-misuse-protection-orders The stated false allegations of domestic violence is 43 over a three year period in the Canadian study, while 82% of 68 victim of intimate partner hom…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/15 10:04 PM
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Why should it be in TBP? Most TBP don't come here. If there HAS to be a BP position, it would probably only be for the sake of this sub, and that can stay here. BP just doesn't have a philosophy (beside that RP is wrong and bad for you)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/15 09:30 PM
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What philosophy is BP advocating? They're not? That's why I agree with hammering out at least a pseudo position for bluepill, even if they don't really have one. People can always change their flairs. Besides, there are tons of debates where one side doesn't have a fixed position (check out politics, where neither side has a position/s). Being anti-biological weapons doesn't have to mean anything besides the fact that you're against the use of biological weapons. The redpill comment can apply to…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/15 08:50 PM
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Where did I ever say I didn't want to be here? When you said that bluepill doesn't deserve to debate. I mean, you don't have to debate them. But yes. Blue pill is a satire sub, and people on it don't necessarily have a common position, outside of disagreeing with RP. I met RPers who thinks women are people just like men and RPers who think women are basically children and completely unlike men and AWALT and fucking sluts amirite. I mean, at one point y'all really gotta make up your minds.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/15 08:40 PM
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So if we can agree on this, are women really more "emotional"? (I.e. driven by emotion) Or are men?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/15 08:32 PM
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men are judged more harshly than women That really depends on the situation and people. Rape victims being blamed is a real thing. Women are shamed for having sex and shamed for not having sex. Your appearance is judged more heavily. You're ability is often called into question in certain jobs. For every man who was falsely accused of domestic violence, there's at least as many woman who got murdered in a case of domestic violence. For every false rape accusation, there's equally a rape victim s…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/15 08:30 PM
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IQ distribution is directly related to this And how? Are you going to actually state a point that people can contest? Or are you just going to throw numbers around without really giving an argument?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/15 08:07 PM
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why do they deserve to debate? I mean, nobody is forcing you to stay here... But I think hammering out a position for both sides would be nice, BPers can always change their flair if they think the position doesn't conform with their beliefs. Personally, I think RPers really lack a general consensus considering they're not the satire sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/15 08:03 PM
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I think women express their emotions more, but also control it better. I think they're also more pragmatic and less romantic/emotional when it comes to romantic relationships compared to men. It doesn't mean they love their SOs less, just that they find it easier to compartmentalize their feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/15 07:44 PM
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RP largely is just saying, "Women are people too, including the shitty parts" Really? Because I'm pretty sure a ton of other RPers would tell you that women are naturally whiny, illogical, and lacking in self-control and hence can't be trusted, unlike men. I think you need to go back to your people and figure out whether or not it is redpill to consider women as people.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/15 07:25 PM
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Really? I usually use it when RP tries to extrapolate ridiculous theories from some woman cheating or whatever. E.g. "women cheat because females are irresponsible and impulse driven. Their biology blah blah evo psych biotroof" MDIT is just a reminder that, yes, some women are shitty people. Some men are also shitty people. Because a lot of people are irresponsible and impulse driven. What she did probably had less to do with the fact that she has a vagina and more to do with the fact that she's…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/15 07:19 PM
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MDIT does not mean men are hypocrites for calling out women's bad behavior Two different things, two different standards Yeah but that's literally the definition of hypocrisy. You're judging women by a standard you wouldn't hold yourself to. I guess the dissonance comes in because TBP, like most of the rest of the first world consider women to be pretty much equal to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/15 07:07 PM
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Thank you. I call it "inclusive racism"
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/15 06:52 PM
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the Asians were completely irrelevant to the topic at hand. So is "black ppl r dum". It may not be completely irrelevant to the discussion, but standalone is not an argument for or against anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/15 06:49 PM
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That really depends on your definition of "greatest power" OP. Do you like living with a mini-human inside of you for nine months? Is it "great" to push said grape-fruit sized mini-human out of a normally anus-sized hole at the end of said nine months? Does it make you feel powerful to recover from a perineal(vagina to anus) laceration? I suppose it might be kind of empowering to go through the process alone because the father decided halfway through that he "wasn't ready" for kids. It really de…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/15 09:01 AM
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you're missing the asians! Pretty neat considering whites wrote the test and many researchers suspect a racial bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/15 08:25 AM
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I mean, you've dated outside your race too. What drove you to date an asian girl? Whatever your reason, it's likely shared by the indian women who are dating outside of their race. Do you imagine your eventual indian wife to be "second place" to your previous asian girlfriend? If not, why should you think yourself second place to your indian wife (who has previously dated other races)? If yes, then I suppose it's only fair that you accept second place in return. Fyi I think the alpha/beta thing …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/15 07:34 AM
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They're children. You can't even trust a woman to know if she's hungry, like/dislikes something, or wants something. Do you have evidence to back this up? Bonus Points: your "evidence" isn't based on your feelings or something your mom or ex-gf did.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/15 02:07 AM
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RP 101 is the elimination of both "just world fallacies" and "naturalistic fallacies", and it rejects "appeals to emotion" on the basis of fallacy. I wouldn't say it eliminates the "naturalistic fallacies" at all, given their extensive use of evo psych. Imo, the world view they draw up is just as flawed and broken as the one they claim to have left behind. I did compare it to economics, fyi. But I really don't think it has even the same level of rigor as economics. There's a handful of cherry-pi…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/15 05:09 AM
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the men brush off anything "offensive"; the women spool up like a Harrier jet. Really? That hasn't been my experience at all. I mean, I've been told by RP guys that I was "insulting" and "demonizing" them quite a lot. Usually if I pull this shit in a feminism forum, I just get ignored or someone politely tell me why its not ok or w/e.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/15 04:55 AM
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Really? Between the two, I would have sooner claimed TRP as a soft science (on par with sociology, human geography, and maaaybe economy) than logical (which requires really rigid definitions and axioms that TRP lacks). It's really more of a set of patterns people claimed to have observed.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/15 04:33 AM
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It was relevant, but because you misunderstood me you think it's irrelevant. A paper that doesn't even make the distinction between male and female responders? This paper is supposed to say anything about women? I don't know, perhaps you are not in research, but that's not a rigorous (or even reasonable) approach to prove anything. I've made several analogies to the point you made, to which you said they were not relevant but refused to explain why. I think perhaps taking a college level course,…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/15 04:22 AM
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The science paper you linked was completely irrelevant (And you've not provided any new sources, despite claiming to have multiple). You've made zero effort to point out or explain exactly what your point is. You constantly refuse to address the actual issue OP brought up. I would apologize for anything I said that would be considered a "personal insult", but I frankly don't give a shit if your feelings are hurt (maybe try a safe space). Why come to PPD at all if you're just going to take offens…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/15 03:51 AM
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Do you have anything that are more recent? More relevant? Or do you have sources that Steinem said any of those things? I mean, I can go back and quote some shitty sexist things men said about women way back when and we would get no where.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/15 02:05 AM
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The science bullshit aside: I keep my house locked, but I shouldn't have to. Burglars shouldn't rob houses to begin with. Do you see the point I'm making? And rapists shouldn't rape people to begin with. Now you have a group of people standing up and trying end all burglary, and your response is to tell them to move to Columbia ("I dare you~") if they think the US has a burglary problem (presumably so they can experience real burglary problems, regardless of the fact that US isn't Columbia and "…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/15 01:42 AM
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If both men and women feel that treating women equally is seen as sexism towards women No, they perceive men who exhibit benevolent sexism as being "nicer" than men who do not exhibit benevolent sexism. They also perceive women who exhibit benevolent sexism as being "worse" than women who do not exhibit benevolent sexism. If anything it just means that both men AND women have very skewed idea of what sexism is. If you tie that back to your original point and believe that this is evidence of "wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/15 01:24 AM
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But this study doesn't even separate the opinions of men and women. Around 400 individuals (mixture of men and women) were surveyed via internet. They were presented varying combination of male and female sexism and told to give their opinion. Then the study sorts the result by the gender and type of hypothetical sexist they were presented (not the gender of the survey participant). In what way does this present women's opinion on anything? The study doesn't even make an effort to separate the s…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/15 12:21 AM
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LOGIC STEM If only it was actually logic. Honestly, most of the crap I've seen is just people trying to justify their shitty opinions by shoehorning in a "scientific study" or two, and hoping that whoever they're arguing won't have the scientific background to call them out on their bullshit. This irks me more than anything. By all means have your own (fee-fee based) opinion, but don't pretend it's "logic" or "science" or whatever the fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/15 11:08 PM
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scientific studies Quick question, before I actually read the rest of this paper you linked: are you sure you linked the right one? We are discussing the Master's Thesis: "Lay misperceptions of the relationship between men's benevolent and hostile sexism" by Amy Yeung, yes? Because I don't really see how it supports your "women make mountains out of molehills" narrative. Did you read this paper? Or did you link the wrong one?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/15 10:48 PM
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, if you think WE in the Western World live in a "rape culture" because of dick pics or cat-calling or some shit, try going to a place like ISIS-controlled Syria and see if you don't change your mind. If you think WE in the western world has a social security problem because of unemployment or shrinking middle class or some shit, try going to a place like North Korea and see if you don't change your mind. At least we have a functioning economy. How is this analogy different? You don't address th…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/15 06:37 PM
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Because whiny ass little girls talk about rape culture when they know fuck all about what a rape culture really is or even looks like. And whiny ass little boys do? Do you? What makes you more of an expert? Why are my analogies stupid? Is it because in all of them, instead of addressing the actual problem, the issue is just compared to countries that have it worse? Do you have actual points you want to make? Or are you just going to accuse me of "not understanding your post" without actually exp…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/15 08:43 AM
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I second this motion. Why? Since when has "at least we're better than ISIS" become an acceptable response to "this society has some problems"? This is fucking ridiculous and in no way address the actual problem. Do you tell HIV-positive people to "go to Zimbabwe for a few years"? Did the government say "go live in Eitrea for a year if you think this country has a problem with corruption" when the whole NSA business was brought to light? Can you imagine the outrage if they did? What kind of dipsh…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/15 08:10 AM
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1: The amount of women whining about dick pics is overblown on social media sites like reddit. based on what? Would you also say the examples of "AWALT" on TRP is overblown? What makes you think they are "overblown", exactly? All of this is just text on a screen, what makes one post more legit than another? (Protip: "Some of the posts agree with my world view and the other doesn't" is not a legitimate argument) I block the user and move on in life. As do I, but I shouldn't have to. And now, some…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/15 08:00 AM
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instead of real arguments and discussion in search for the "truth" I just see BP just arguing with the intend of "win" Or maybe they are speaking their truth but it's something you disagree with?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/15 07:26 AM
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while there is a lack of the same media aimed at men I beg to differ, I would say most of James Bond's "she-said-no-then-yes" exploits are borderline problematic. What's wrong with being attention to the issue that women enjoy privileged protected status because of their gender, and it's men that provide that? But you're not doing that. You're dismissing the issue at hand (i.e. rape and murder of women are disproportionately being committed by men). And assuming you are in the US, most of the wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/15 07:17 AM
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any romance movie in the last 10 years aimed at a female audience And they can be sexist and perpetuate rape culture too. I can't comment on the Notebook since I didn't see it. Saying how hard things are for men doesn't mean rape culture doesn't exist. Most of the murderers are also men. Maybe it is time to examine why so many men are disproportionately more likely than women to resort to violence. Saying how death is worse than rape doesn't mean rape culture doesn't exist. Nobody should be rape…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/15 05:36 AM
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Is the ability to have nuance to those different mindsets not important? I don't think it is as important as being able to gender sexism. The idea of "kill all women"/"I hate females" is about as relevant as "kill all men": mostly expressed by edgy angry teenagers or seriously deranged adults. I would rather be able to separately address sexists that think all women are hormonally charged emotional wrecks and sexists that think all men are hormonally charged sex addicts.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/15 04:03 AM
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like it used to? I have no idea what it used to mean. If a definition of a word can be so easily replaced by another and not be at all missed by most english speakers, I would think it's safe to say nothing of value was lost. I don't see the point in putting the effort into bringing the definition back. It's also not entirely interchangeable, since by this definition, all misogyny might be sexism but not all sexism is misogyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/15 03:43 AM
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The only difference I can see is the gender neutrality. It's used interchangeably when referring to women, the same way sexism and misandry would be used interchangeably when referring to men. If there's a special agenda, then I must've lost the memo from the feminazi websites I'm subscribed to.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/15 03:31 AM
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they will never win a debate here, ever. Yeah, seconding request on what it means to "win" an internet debate. Do you "win" if the other person stops responding? Or do you "win" when you can no longer understand what the other person is saying? I mean, if I start speaking in italian, will I "win" this argument? (What do I get?)
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/15 03:20 AM
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