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Humor!ogrilla99/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/10/20 04:13 PM
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$ Sugar Bailout $ogrilla99/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/09/19 03:59 PM
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Strong Independent Womanogrilla99/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/05/26 04:44 PM
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Dual-Mating Strategyogrilla99/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/08/25 09:40 PM
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Complaining about jerksogrilla99/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/04/26 04:34 AM
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WAATGM In The Makingogrilla99/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/03/26 04:53 AM
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Single Woman Tearsogrilla99/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen08/04/26 03:48 AM
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No problem. You do you chief.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen08/08/25 03:48 PM
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The proof is the screenshot posted. If you read our criteria for submission you'd see that we are far from practicing blind acceptance. The OP has given us a screenshot which he attests is accurate (and complies with our guidelines designed to ensure that it's not misleading or inaccurate). The burden to prove it's not real is now on you. And frankly, you seem to be the one with blinders on: blinders about how no woman could be this bad, which is such a common thing on reddit (blind denial of a …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/08/25 11:48 PM
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This violates Rule #3. I'll give you a chance to edit it or else I'll have to remove it. We don't allow people to question the authenticity of a post unless you have proof (in which case, please email it to the mods and we'll review it).
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/08/25 11:23 PM
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I should resist being labelled our resident guru on Indian chicks... the vast majority of women I've dated have been anything but Indian. I find it's easier, not to mention they're less crazy (admittedly a low bar). Heck, not to humble brag, but blue eyed blonde all-American types end up chasing me, for the exact reason this woman chases European men: I'm exotic to them, and even if they don't snag me as an LTR, they can live out their rebellious phase before becoming a born-again tradthot or wh…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/08/25 10:40 PM
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https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/golf%20widow
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/03/25 01:34 AM
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I think a fair portion of women if not the majority of women view online dating as almost a backup “if someone amazing drops my way”. Rather than actively relying on it to find someone. I disagree. For people under 30 (both men and women), OLD is *the* way they meet people. Mainly because they have no other avenue, and their social skills have dried up. To take point 1, thanks to #metoo and the general trend to criminalize men who might fumble through an awkward attempt to chat up a woman, there…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen09/09/24 02:31 AM

This was initially written as a response to a previous post featured on our forums.red site and also here, but I wanted to expand it as it's really a more general problem of people who decide to reject a community but then try to come back to it when they need something from it, all the while still trying to avoid responsibility for their actions. Hope you enjoy it. While comments are enabled here on reddit for this post, we encourage you to comment directly on the post at our forums.red site in…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/01/24 11:23 PM
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no joke. 50 shades of grey started as self-published Twilight fan fiction.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/12/23 07:08 PM
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I suspect it's more insidious than that. Getting on the front page as "Leo's new girl" is a ton of exposure for an otherwise unknown model. She probably got near Leo and posed as if he and her were interacting or at least sitting "together". And then sold those pictures to the paparazzi afterwards. People in Hollywood are thirsty for fame and will do anything for it. That includes staging their own "paparazzi" photos. If these 2 folks aren't dating, then Leo has no reason to be with her at all. …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/02/23 02:59 PM
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Actually, *free* porn is not okay. You're victimizing the woman by not paying her for her work. Nevermind when she uses music and video snips that she didn't pay for. That's her being forced to rip things off due to the patriarchy underpaying her. So she's the real victim here, not the fatcat singers and artists (even if she's making bank in onlyfans). It's basically rape. And actually, *cheap* porn isn't okay either. Sure, you're paying the woman the full price she asked for. But if a woman is …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/02/23 02:44 PM
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The quote was by none other than John Maynard Keynes.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/02/23 02:17 PM
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Part of the process of becoming an adult is understanding that there are power imbalances in this world, and learning how to navigate them. In this case, it's not even that complicated. This woman is *attracted* to Leo due to the power imbalance. She's a model. If all she wanted was someone as attractive as Leo, there are probably anonymous dudes in her gym that are as good looking. No, it's precisely Leo's power, fame, wealth, etc. (in addition perhaps to his looks, personality, charm, etc) tha…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/02/23 06:09 AM
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Au Contraire, she makes just as an explicit financial request except through negation: she states that she gets mental, emotional, and sexual satisfaction from women. Meaning, that's not what she's looking for from you. So what's left?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/02/23 10:58 PM
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Women generally make bad dog owners, because dogs are pack animals and instinctively need a pack leader (or alpha) to follow. In the absence of such a leader, they become terribly misbehaved and miserable. If you ever watched the show The Dog Whisperer, almost all of the problematic dogs he visited had owners (usually women) who could not be or refused to be the pack leader, and then wondered why their dog was acting out. As soon as a pack leader was established, the dogs would settle down. It's…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/02/23 10:55 PM
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This is great and I'd add these quotes: And beyond that, to other women, who work for paltry wages to care for our children or wipe our kitchen benches. Umm... you're the one hiring them. Feel free to pay them what you think they're worth. Oh, that's right, even at those "paltry" wages, you can't afford enough paid child care that you need to mooch off your family, and when even that's not enough, you're demanding to mooch off your neighbor. ​ But what if we all saw ourselves as parents, no matt…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/01/23 07:58 AM
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Apparently, having the goal of "consciously create the family in which we and our children will thrive" was too much of a burden and restriction of her freedom to do as she pleases. So instead, she wants to create a village. Because, if she couldn't stand to share her life with 1 person, she sure as hell won't be able to stand sharing it with 100...
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/01/23 07:42 AM
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I wish, but she hasn't yet realized she fucked up. She still thinks she did the perfectly right thing (for her). It's society that's fucked up, in ways she's just realizing now. Which is why she's trying to shame society to rise up and meet her needs, as she has always expected it to do.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/01/23 07:41 AM
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My parents grew up in a village just like that, many years ago, and in a foreign country. The type of place where you could let your toddler roam free on the streets (no cars back then; more likely to be hit by a cow :-) and know that some adult hanging out on the street would keep them safe (hell, if it was dinner time, they'd take you in and feed you before sending you home). Here's the thing about those villages: the *reason* they all worked together was because they had pre-existing social b…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/01/23 07:39 AM
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It's never fraud as long as a woman does it. Meanwhile, a guy uses even one technique from a PUA blog, like how to initiate a conversation, and he's a rapist. How dare he learn ways to improve his success?! Men can't rent a Porsche for a night but women sure can wear a pushup bra. They're totally not the same thing you incel shitlord! Now excuse me as I use a billion-dollar AI filter to remove my pimples, slim my cheeks, plump my lips, enlarge my eyes, shrink my waist and inflate my boobs.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/10/22 02:11 AM
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So this is a really important part she glosses over. Initially, she would look for a guy that she really connected with. But usually these guys usually only lasted a few days or weeks before she or he ended it. That became too painful, so now she just dates for "fun". Here's the thing: finding a lifelong partner is *hard*. Yes, you will meet a bunch of people who are not right for the longterm, and it can/will be a painful process of investing time in potential partners, and having your heart br…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/10/22 09:51 AM
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I disagree. Let me quote exactly what she said in the article: And, although she admitted that meeting Jason had been the catalyst for her decision, the life coach confessed that it had been inevitable that the relationship would break down. “Regardless of Jason’s answer, I knew that I had to separate from my husband because that was the right thing to do for both of us,” she explained. “By us staying in a marriage that perhaps wasn’t meant to be continued in the future, he couldn’t move on with…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/10/22 01:05 PM
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LOL! Given the number of guys who seem to have a pregnancy fetish, I think you're on to something!
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/10/22 11:35 AM
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I’ll grant that there might be good ones far away from the cities, but good luck with that. Hate to break it to you but out of wedlock pregnancy rates are higher in rural areas: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6836770/ Don't believe that born-again-virgin "I'm a good Christian girl teehee" BS. They're called tradthots for a reason: their superficial displays of morality / christianity / conservative values is just a cover and underneath, they're no different than any other woman.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/10/22 11:32 AM
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To be a book that I can't stop reading, it's incumbent upon the *book* to be so well-written, exciting, great plot and characters, etc. etc. as to hold my interest through to the final page. IOW, it's entirely a reflection on the book, and very little on the reader if he chooses to put it down after a single chapter or stays for the whole book. Somehow, I'm betting she never accepted that part of the analogy.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/10/22 11:09 AM
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Being a life coach is sort of like working in tech support. If you're actually good with computers, you can get a far better job than working tech support. Similarly, if you're actually good at living life, you're doing far more interesting things than wasting time working as a life coach. The term life coach is a euphemism sort of like Apple's "Genius bar" to hide the basic fact that anyone whose options and skills are so limited as to take on the job is neither a genius nor qualified to coach …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/10/22 10:52 AM
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Yeah, this story seemed to be written as a success story but I kept waiting to hear the success part. She dumps her husband and tries to branch swing only to fall to the floor, and she's now so discouraged she has even stopped looking for a new partner and has basically accepted that she will die alone. Given that she's a "life coach" who probably paid to self-publish her "book", and whose largest source of income is probably her husband's alimony and child support payments (which never pay for …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/10/22 10:45 AM
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I used to live in SoCal and it seemed like "life coach" was what you said you did when your model / actress / influencer career failed and you needed to do something that didn't require any actual skills or experience on your resume. Plus, most people are too polite to ask "how many clients do you have?" so it was usually a euphemism for unemployed, basically when you're too old / lazy / unreliable to even get the usual SoCal job of waiter or bartender. What's the difference between a life coach…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/10/22 10:24 AM
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Depends on what they want out of a man. If he's a hot guy at the bar and she's just looking for a one night stand, she talks up her slutty side, how good she is at BJs, etc. It helps her seal the deal when he has several women to choose from. If she's looking to get a relationship out of a man, then she'll hide that part and play up her worth in a relationship. Honestly, everyone -- man and woman -- tries to color their history to serve whatever purpose they need it to at the moment. But this is…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/09/22 12:19 PM
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Agree with u/Overkillengine Your mistake is that when women are young, they don't want the rich, tall, handsome man (well, maybe if he's handsome, and he uses his riches to buy cocaine and go on fancy vacations). But if he's rich, tall, handsome *and boring*, then they don't want him. But they do expect that guy will still be there 10 years from now when they're kicked off the carousel and need to find someone to pay their bills. In the meantime, they'll happily date the broke guitarist in a gar…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/09/22 03:35 AM
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He should have turned on the beta game: pretend you are the beta bux that women at the end of their carousel half-life start looking for, and take them for one last ride :-) Alpha game works great on young, 20-somethings who are still deep in the CC phase. But when they get to late 20s/early 30s and start looking for their beta bux bailout, beta game starts to be a winning strategy!
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/09/22 03:08 AM
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Winner winner chicken dinner. It's why if a girl claims to be a lesbian, check out her nails. If they're long, she's lying!
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/08/22 09:47 AM
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At 26, she's likely at the peak of her SMV, and seems physically attractive. She can demand the moon and is probably able to get it, at least for a night. But you have to look at what's left unsaid. She doesn't just want someone in the 1% of American males in height. That guy also has to look good, not be fat, be rich, charming, etc. Those guys are closer to a 1-in-a-million level of rarity. Many of those guys do get married at some point, but to lock one down, you have to equally be a 1-in-a-mi…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/08/22 09:44 AM
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The data says the average person in the US makes 40k. So I guess no one should shoot for more than that? It's what the data stays most people reach after all. The average man in America doesn't get much attention from women. You're right. It's up to you to decide whether you want to do better and what you're willing to do to make it happen. My stories are far from touchy feely. They're meant to show that it's possible but also that it's hard work. I don't deny it. It's simply you're choice wheth…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/07/22 06:03 AM
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This one is breaking my brain. If you want a discussion group for art and culture, go to the local museum. I'm sure they have monthly events where you can meet other art lovers to discuss whatever. She's on a hookup app, as a married person, which means she wants to hookup, is not looking to even date. But she doesn't want to feel responsible for having an affair, or feel bad about getting ploughed by someone "beneath" her. If she's going to have an affair, she wants it to be a James Bond-type (…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/07/22 01:23 PM
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Then you're doing something else wrong. I don't mean to be harsh, but I really want to snap you out of this defeatist attitude. I won't deny that being tall would make it easier for you. But you have to play the hand you're dealt with. You can either make the best of what you have, or assume you're screwed for life and stay unhappy. FWIW, I'm 6', and while I do okay for myself, I have significantly shorter friends who do far, far better than me in attracting women. I'll bring up 2. One is about …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/07/22 01:13 PM
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The only rule to follow is don't shit where you eat, i.e. don't ask a woman out at *your* place of work. All she has to do is claim you've created a hostile work environment and your entire career could be gone. Not worth it. But aside from that, guys should feel free to ask a woman out anywhere. Like in this case: what's the worst that can happen? Even if she thinks your a creep for asking her out, so what? She can't get you fired. Just about the only thing she can do, if you really piss her of…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen11/07/22 02:32 PM
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It's not an unpopular opinion, but the key is, as you say what happens afterward. While you're right that there are guys who become an arse or a harasser, IMHO, that's not most cases. Most of the time, a guy goes back to treating her like he treats everyone else i.e. like furniture, and she's shocked at the drop in his attention, and calls him an arse for it. I'm not talking about showing illegal favoritism at work or something like that. But realize that guys don't usually ask each other "How w…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen11/07/22 02:13 PM
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Part of her problem is, however attractive she is now, she was much more attractive in her 20s and 30s, and attracted far more of the men she wants: 30s-40s attractive, rich, never married men who want kids. When she says she's "serious" about finding a life-long partner now, what she means isn't that she wants the same type of guy who she used to date 10-20 years ago, and somehow get that guy to commit to her now, even though he wouldn't back then, and so no way in hell he'd do so now. Women wh…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen08/07/22 03:33 AM
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She *chose* to be a feminist when she was young, and is only rejecting it now that it didn't work out for her. If she's 46, I'm pretty sure her mom wasn't a feminist. And I'm certain her grandmother wasn't. IOW, this wasn't an ideology forced on her when she was a child and lacked the ability to make her own choice. She actively chose it because it promised her that she could have it all, while her no-fun fuddy duddy mom would school her about choices having consequences, and responsibilities, a…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/04/22 09:14 AM
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You're a single mom. How are you not a feminist? If it quacks like a duck, walks like a duck... This is the problem with tradthots. Sure, they talk a big game about how they're not feminist, they're totally old school, etc. etc. But watch what they *do*. What part of feminism do they reject? Do they reject riding the carousel for decades? Having children out of wedlock? What parts of old school behavior do they espouse? Are they debt-free virgins with no tattoos? Are they young and looking for a…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/04/22 09:07 AM
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Hahaha. Love it!
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/04/22 08:57 AM
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If that is indeed her current pictures and not from 10/20/30 years ago, then she's kept in great shape. That's about the only thing she has going for her. From the way she dresses, you can tell she still behaves like a 20 year old, and probably has the same preferences in men i.e. hawt guys that give her tingles. She's still chasing Chad as a cougar, and probably complaining about how guys her age are all balding fat losers, not realizing that those 49 year old guys who've managed to stay in sha…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/04/22 08:11 AM
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Yep. When I was a skinny, unfashionable dude with glasses, my ability to speak intelligently about politics, science, whatever was just dismissed as boring nerdy shit. Totally unattractive and something to be hidden. When I got in shape, got contacts, and wore better clothes, (oh and also started a very lucrative career), all of a sudden, those same interests were now "attractive" and added to my allure. Funny how that works... (This is why I run the moment I hear some woman proclaim herself to …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/04/22 08:00 AM
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You're assuming it's only one dude. How charmingly optimistic of you!
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/04/22 04:56 AM
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STNAs barely make minimum wage: https://www.payscale.com/research/US/Job=State_Tested_Nursing_Assistant_(STNA)/Hourly_Rate/Hourly_Rate) No way you can support 4 (presumably young) children on a single minimum wage. She's either a) living with her parents who are the primary caregivers when she works her job b) gets child support from her baby dadd(ies) c) gets welfare d) all of the above. Regardless, she's looking for her option e) marry a rich guy who'll spend his whole paycheck on raising 4 ki…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/04/22 04:54 AM
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Those aunts exist and have always exist. But they try to convince people the opposite: that actually they're much happier than the married ones. Thus the meme of the cool wine aunt who talks about all her travels and freedom to do what she wants, and never talks about the numerous nights she cries herself to sleep because of her crushing loneliness. No one wants to become a cautionary tale. They want to point to *other people* as cautionary tales. Spinsters have been around since forever. But ev…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/04/22 04:45 AM
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I'm always floored by how many women think this is a reasonable approach. "Well, I haven't found a man yet, so I'll just have a baby on my own, and then I can continue my search for a good man without having to worry about my biological clock. I'm sure it'll work out since I'll have more time!" First of all, you haven't yet found man with the qualities you seek. And then, you're going to add a bastard into the equation, and you expect that all of a sudden you'll now become attractive enough? Eve…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/04/22 04:39 AM
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A few points here: First, She's 36 and still a resident. That means most likely she worked for several years and went to medical school late. That, or she did an MD/PHD and is in a long residency like surgery. The typical pattern is finish undergrad at 22, med school at 26, and residency by 29-33 (depending on specialty). Either way, the big point with this is that the vast majority of male residents are significantly younger than her. It's very common for doctors to marry other doctors. Frequen…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/04/22 04:32 AM
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TIL penis length is dictated by Federal Reserve policy and government deficits :-)
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen15/04/22 08:53 PM
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Because they get matches anyway. Their mistake comes from assuming people read profiles, or that getting those matches means their profile is attractive. Have you ever seen those hidden cam videos of people going through their tinder account? Men and women both literally spend 2 seconds, if that, looking at your first picture, and swiping left or right. Most guys, understanding that OLD is a numbers game, don't even bother with that. They just swipe right on every woman, and then respond (or not…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen15/04/22 08:47 PM
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Exactly. She's selling the story to herself. And for the story to ring true, Dan can be a "nice guy" but can't be a weirdo virgin. She can't get around the fact that he's a virgin who basically MGTOW'ed at 24. If those were the only facts she presented about him -- either to herself or her BFF/frenemies -- they would think she's dating some weird socially awkward incel, and that would reflect badly on her. So, to temper that stuff, she needs to paint Dan in the best light possible. That he had h…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen15/04/22 08:27 PM
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So her definition of something sincere is a relationship built on getting drunk at bars and clubs. Got it. Wonder who's taking care of her kids while she's pursuing these "sincere" relationships...
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/03/22 05:16 AM
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Wow. That article deserves its own post. It's very instructive for Western men who think that Asian women are the answer, and that they're all submissive and feminine. China has a massive gender imbalance. For every woman in the 20-40 age range, there is 1.2 men available. And yet, the women there claim that they can't find a good man, and rather than "settle" for someone less than what they deserve, they decide to have children via sperm donor. And then, they choose their sperm donors based on …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/03/22 05:13 AM
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Diamonds aren't rare. They're actually about as common as quartz in the Earth's surface. DeBeers and the entire diamond cartel sprung up precisely because diamonds are common. Even without lab grown diamonds, DeBeers has many years' supply of jewelry-grade mined diamonds locked up in their vaults to keep the market from being flooded and crashing their prices. They keep adding to that stash because they have no choice if they want to keep up the illusion that diamonds are rare. The worst part ab…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/03/22 04:26 AM
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That's incredibly insightful, and yes, that's exactly how a career and/or dating ends. No one at age 35 expects they'll end up a crazy cat woman or a cool wine aunt. But they keep saying no no no until there's no one left to say yes to. That's why as much as people claim we're all women-haters on this sub, I think we're actually the only ones who care to really help these women. We're the agent saying "it's over!" to shake them out of their delusions and get them to realize they need to say yes …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/03/22 04:10 AM
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So I pity this woman because her husband cheated and left her. That sucks. I get what you're saying, but don't fall into this trap. Sure, I don't wish misery on anyone, so yes, in the cosmic sense, it sucks that she's unhappy. But she's responsible for choosing this man. By her own words, she had several long term relationships, i.e. she had at least several -- if not more -- men to choose from to settle down and marry. She chose the one that would cheat on her. He was probably a bad boy, somewh…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/03/22 04:00 AM
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Or option C) They see her better than she sees herself, sets her up with someone who is her actual equal, and she recoils in horror at the thought that her equal is a fat, older single dad, or some equally "unworthy" man. She then blames her friends for setting her up with "losers" when she's a Queen who knows her worth. After a couple of these dates gone awry, her friends stop setting her up with people, and they also realize how strong her delusions are, so that when she asks them for the "hon…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/03/22 03:49 AM
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That was my first thought too. If this exact same lament was made by a guy, he wouldn't get sympathy. He'd get called an incel, which automatically means he's a danger to society, needs to be suppressed or even locked up, etc. etc. No one would give a shit about his feelings, his longing for human connection, or the pain and loneliness he suffers through. The most "sympathy" he'd get would be some tough love advice to lose weight, improve himself, etc. while explaining that the world doesn't owe…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/03/22 03:44 AM
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Exactly. It's even easier to see than you state. Her first set of complaints is about how "everyone I date is damaged, ghosts me, or is a straight up asshole." i.e. she is getting matches, from dating apps and even from her friends setting her up. She does go on dates, and just doesn't like any of them. Fair enough. But then later she states she's invisible to all men. One of those statements must be false. They can't both be true.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/03/22 03:40 AM
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I love your story :-) Let me say something that might be considered heresy on this sub but is actually something a lot of us believe (many of the mods are married, after all): there are good women out there. Note, I didn't say there are perfect goddesses out there. Good *women* i.e. human beings who have good points and bad points, but whose particular set of good and bad points mesh nicely with yours such that you can build a joint life that's better than either of you could build alone. Not pe…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/03/22 07:58 PM

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/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/03/22 07:23 PM
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My first thoughts were a little different. Guy #2 is basically holding up a mirror to how she likely behaves on most dates (talking about herself, pumping up her accomplishments and how awesome and amazing she is, blah blah blah) and she thinks he's a blowhard because... he doesn't let her talk about herself. Unfortunately, she lacks the self-awareness to use that as a valuable teaching tool and think "Hmm... maybe when I go on and on and on about my career achievements like that, my date might …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/03/22 07:16 PM
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Plus, she can sneak you free fries with your Big Mac without having to pay for the meal deal! What can Karen who works in some company's HR do for you that's even 1/10 as useful? :-)
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/03/22 06:55 PM
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While I agree with your analogy, it's even more sinister than that. Part of why NiceGuys go down that route is because women specifically tell them that's what they're looking for in a guy, while dating the exact opposite. That lie is what convinces many NiceGuys to develop those traits in the first place. In our case, men make it very clear what they're honestly looking for, and women simply don't listen, and worse, shame men for making their preferences known, and expect us to change our prefe…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/03/22 06:51 PM
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Actually, there are plenty of older women who will give that advice. Even within their own family, I bet grandma still feels that way. Every woman dreads those uncomfortable talks during family reunions when all of her aunts and uncles and grandparents ask her when she's going to get married and have kids. It's not like she never hears this advice. But talk needs to be backed up by consequences. And in modern society, there are no consequences to disregarding this advice they all receive. I hate…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/03/22 05:36 AM
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I think it was Kevin Samuels who told his female listeners "look at the best man in your friendzone: that's the best you will ever get to commit to you". There's a lot of truth to that statement. The guys in your friendzone adore you not because you're the absolute best, most awesome female in the whole wide world. You're simply the best woman that guy feels he has even a small chance of ever landing, and is therefore willing to commit to you. But trust me, even the most bluepilled orbiter you h…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/03/22 05:21 AM
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For someone who was earning 2k a night, 6k a month feels like poverty. And that's why so many sex workers can never stop that work until they age out of it or for some other reason absolutely can't do it any longer. I think most prostitutes, strippers, etc. start it by saying "Oh, I'm only going to do it for a few months until I get over my current rough patch", or plan to save some money and get out soon. But once they get used to the money, and realize there's no other job out there (that does…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/03/22 04:46 AM
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but but women want to date men their own age, nope they dont, only after they age out and have to Not really. Just like most men want to date women at their peak (early to mid-20s), most women want to date men at their peak (30s/40s). It's only in their 30s/40s that men have usually settled into their career and are hitting their financial stride. In your 20s, it's hard to predict which guy is going to make it in life, and which one is going to be washed up. But by the 30s/40s, it becomes clear.…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/03/22 02:11 PM
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Won't work. They'll tell you what you want to hear. Witness the phenomenon of tradcons. Sure, they say they're conservative and "reject" modern feminism. But ask them what part of modern feminism / relationships do they reject? Do they reject the slutty college phase? The "I'm a Queen!" mentality? No-fault divorce? When you dig deeper you'll find "traditional" women these days means the same thing as "modern", just couched in language they think traditional men want to hear. The only way to find…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/03/22 02:05 PM
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I love the term "Voltron effect"! It captures perfectly what these women end up doing. And yes, especially after 30, single women have so much baggage, it's just not worth it. They expect you to undo all the damage caused by the crappy men they dated before, as if somehow you're responsible for their poor decisions. And maybe, just maybe, after that, she'll be repaired enough to embark on a halfway-normal relationship with you without freaking out or having a nervous breakdown about something th…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/03/22 05:44 PM
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Women like this one are in denial about how having a child with another man instantly degrades your relationship value. Other women posted on this forum are in denial about how much weight gain affects your attractiveness. And still others are in denial about the effects of their previous promiscuity / drug use / etc, etc. It's gotten to the point that I have to ask: in a feminist world, what *are* men allowed to choose a woman by? Here's what apparently we *can't* choose by: looks (what, you do…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/03/22 05:38 PM
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I respectfully disagree. Pimpin' ain't easy business. A prostitute is someone who's skilled in manipulating men: deceiving them into believing she cares about him in order to get him to give her money. This woman is no different: you can't get $162,000/month out of men without having skill at manipulating their emotions. To be able to be a man who can turn the tables and control such women requires extraordinary skill. You should check out the books _Pimp_ and _Trick Baby_ by Iceberg Slim, a rea…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/03/22 07:21 AM
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This is spot on. A young, pretty woman is equivalent to Michael Jackson. The vast majority of men in her life want something from her (sex) and will say anything they need to get that from them. Similar to Michael Jackson and other celebrities who get surrounded by yes-men calling them brilliant no matter what bad idea they have. When Michael Jackson dies due to an overdose of medication that no one in their right mind would be taking at home, it's the equivalent of a young pretty woman doing ob…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen22/02/22 03:07 PM
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It's worse. Here's a closer analogy: "in my 20s, I was a millionaire and I spent all my money *on other women* like buying them expensive gifts, taking them on fancy vacations, etc. But now I'm 40 and "so over it". I no longer enjoy vacationing in Tahiti or buying Tiffany's jewelry. I'm not superficial like that anymore. I will not be buying you anything more expensive than McDonalds, and staycations at home watching Netflix. Why yes, my previous actions have left me penniless, having spent my f…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen22/02/22 02:53 PM
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She beat the buzzer but still lost the game. Doing the math, she had her children at 37 and 39. I bet for the first one, she was with a guy for a while who wouldn't commit, and she tried to baby trap him and it failed. The second time, she tried again, and failed again. Either that, or she's divorced, and those kids are from her first marriage. Either way, I doubt her life plan was to end up a single mother. And once she realized how much her relationship value plummeted after having them (in co…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen22/02/22 02:46 PM
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C: she can no longer have fun because the Chads have moved on to someone younger and she can't compete. Meanwhile the guys who are able to have the same type of fun can do so for decades longer.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen22/02/22 02:41 PM
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Sorry, for some reason I thought she was 48 but the OP just says she's 40-something. My point still stands though :-)
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/02/22 10:51 PM
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Feminism: a man buying you flowers is a micro-aggression. It's never a nice gesture. It always implies he expects you to suck his dick afterwards. That's demeaning. Also feminism: sucking 10 guys dicks, none of whom buy you flowers, and you having to buy your own flowers to keep yourself from crying to sleep on Valentine's Day, is empowering.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/02/22 06:56 AM
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She dates them all at once. Other women on the CC date them one at a time. Either way, the results are the same: if you keep dating men you're not satisfied with, maybe the problem is with you and your choosing skills, not the men...
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/02/22 06:53 AM
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This is awesome. She's so dense, she doesn't even realize how this backfires on her. Here's a little lesson on how the guys on her "rotation" view this little prank: First, she's knowingly telling them there are other guys she's seeing. Any guy with any interest in an LTR will, at this point, drop her and move on. Any guy who has her on rotation breathes a sigh of relief that this means she won't be pestering him for an LTR anytime soon, or, if she does, he can just turn around and say she's not…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/02/22 06:49 AM
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Yes, and a big chunk of the problem is, people who choose the hookup culture intrinsically value people differently than people who choose stable relationships. That man she thinks is beneath her probably has a good job, would be a devoted husband and great father. But he's got a paunch, is balding, and a little boring (i.e. won't jet her off to Paris on a whim). For a woman who's truly interested in an LTR, this man is not beneath her. He's a catch, because she'll value his LTR qualities over e…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/02/22 06:31 AM
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You're not over the hookup culture. The hookup culture is over you. Hookup culture is a young person's game (Especially for women), and you've aged out of it. Let's not kid ourselves, if a 40-something Chad wanted to bang her for a night, she'd happily still open her legs. The problem is, those 40-something Chads don't want her anymore. And left to choose from men she never wanted, because the men she does want no longer want her, she hamsters herself into thinking that *she's* the one who's rej…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/02/22 06:17 AM
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But the problem isn't lack of information. It's the will to follow through. Everyone for at least the past 50 years knows what a healthy diet looks like: lots of vegetables, as unprocessed as possible, and a wide variety. But it's hard to follow that and pick the spinach and kale when the aisle with the twinkies and candy bars is right next to it and just as easy to reach for. It's not like women from a hundred years ago didn't secretly desire to fuck the Chads of their day, or that they didn't …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/02/22 06:00 AM
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No surprise: they shun the part of feminism that opened the doors to getting educated without being burned for being a witch, while flocking to the part of feminism that lets them open their legs to Chad without being called a slut.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen08/02/22 06:23 AM
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How many "deep conversations" did she need before she got knocked up at 16? I'm guessing far fewer than what she wants from you now. Also, "deep conversation" means she'll be doing no talking, and you'll be expected to entertain her. Now dance, monkey, dance!
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen08/02/22 06:19 AM
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This deserves to be upvoted higher. Great insight and explanation!
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen08/02/22 05:18 AM
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So, they sat and talked about how they all deserved a man like him. This is what struck me the most. Even men can see a hot woman and fantasize about having sex with her. But very few men are so deluded as to walk past a Victoria's Secrets model and then think "I *deserve* a woman like that". Unless these women were as hot as the Khaleesi, they don't *deserve* Jason Mamoa. But every woman nowadays is a Queen, so of course every single one of them deserves the absolute pinnacle of handsome men, e…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen08/02/22 05:03 AM
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Never heard of the term badge bunnies before :-) Nice one!
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen08/02/22 04:58 AM
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This right here. Bouncers aren't always particularly handsome. But in the micro-society of a club, they're seen as high up the hierarchy, because they determine who gets in and who doesn't, and everyone tries to be nice to them. Even if in the real world, the guys they're making wait in the line make more money or have more power than the bouncers do. It's what PUA folks talk about in terms of building social credibility in a few local bars or restaurants, that you then take your dates to. It's …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen08/02/22 04:56 AM
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Not sure what forum the original post is from, but you can be sure it's full of blue pilled guys. Why? Look in the comments: the only thing they criticize the woman for is lying about the *second* OF account she made. I mean sure, honesty is important in a relationship, but if that's the only thing you find wrong in this picture, you've got low standards. Honesty is the first step, but character matters too. The first mistake here was when the guy started dating her even knowing that she had an …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen31/01/22 02:26 PM
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I have a theory. IMHO, feminism (especially the social, as opposed to the economic versions of it) always seem to boil down to young women (especially ugly ones) wanting to fuck freely and rebelling against their mothers warning them not to do so. The first wave burned bras as patriarchal oppression and wanted the right to walk around braless and have guys ogle their nipples. And so on down to today's hookup culture. What's so interesting is that new "waves" of feminism seem to pop up every 10-1…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/01/22 07:34 PM
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But woe be unto men who desire younger, more fertile women. It's worse than that. The advice to settle is given to women (and men) who *can't find* what they're looking for. These women are talking about men who *can* attract younger, hotter women. And they're still shaming them for exercising that preference.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/01/22 07:15 PM
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Agree 100%. I'd go even further. Even during chivalrous times, men hardly gave their life and money to women. Women were property of men (first their fathers, then their husbands). Tell a nobleman that he's supposed to give his life and money to his wife, and he'd look at you like you just told him to give it all to his cows and chickens (since his wife was just one step above that in the line of chattel that he owned). Sure, he feeds his cows and doesn't beat them (too much) because he knows th…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/01/22 07:07 PM
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Those aren't the only women to avoid, but it's a start :-) FWIW, those first few years after starting to make good money and becoming suddenly noticed by the opposite sex are the most dangerous. Most guys in that situation, who've never had much female attention before, simply marry the first hot girl that smiles at them, assuming that this is a fluke and he won't get another chance. Plus, all those attractive women who never gave him the time of day know how to turn on the charm when needed, so…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/01/22 06:52 PM
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Rule 3
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/01/22 06:34 PM
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Yeah, I caught that too. I kept thinking "I don't think that statement means what you think it means" :-)
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/01/22 06:33 PM
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There's a term in LA for these people: MAW as in model, actress, whatever...
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/01/22 04:58 AM
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Sex and the City was created by a gay producer (Darren Star) who thought it would be fun to make a TV show about the dating life of gay men in NYC, except with women. Sort of like Tinder was created to answer the question "If we made a heterosexual version of Grindr, would women show up?" In both cases, what we found out is that women really want to fuck like the sluttiest stereotypical gay dudes. Meanwhile, actual gay dudes, the ones who survived the AIDS scare killing half their friends due to…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/01/22 04:05 AM
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I actually did a double take when I read that article. FYI, it's "West *Elm* Caleb" and that makes it even funnier. For those who don't know, West Elm is a moderately upscale furniture store franchise, for young millenials who can't afford Pottery Barn or (gasp) Restoration Hardware. Basically Pier One Imports for the new generation. And that's what makes this so funny. This dude is not some millionaire furniture icon. And he's not even sexy in a "brawny man using his hands to make custom furnit…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/01/22 03:12 AM
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It's because women love drama. If you gave them the option of solving their problem and thereby removing the drama in their life, vs. continue to be injured by said problem but being able to use that to show everyone how much drama they deal with every day, most women will choose the latter every single day. Women with problems are that way because they don't want to solve their problems. Otherwise they would have solved them long ago. Think about it: they're not trying to solve the Middle East …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/01/22 02:57 AM
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True, it's a primal thing. But she shouldn't give in to it until / unless she finds a partner. People who don't have kids have no idea how much time / effort / money it costs to raise one. And doing it by yourself is a nearly surefire way of setting up your child for a lifetime of failure. Let's just take the costs. Assuming she's working full time, 40hrs/wk, she will need to find daycare or a nanny. Daycare easily costs $1-2k/month (more in more expensive cities). A nanny costs even more. Let's…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/01/22 02:48 AM
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Hence all this media stuff encouraging women to try having sex with a woman, because you know, women know exactly how to please other women while guys are just boring, selfish, and incompetent in bed. Except in reality, when lesbians find out about lesbian bed death...
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/01/22 02:19 AM
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Exactly. When I was reading that, all I could think of was "But what about his dreams? Do you think he wanted to drop out of school and work his ass off every day because now he has a wife and kid to take care of?" Guys in their 20s have a great time too, even if it's just the power to drink beer in your underwear and watch football all day or play video games with your friends :-) The truth is, sure, they *both* sacrificed the carefree part of their youth, and had to work harder, and have less …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen05/01/22 10:35 PM
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Yeah, I have friends who had friends early (right out of college or very soon after) and now, their kids are basically done. They're all in college or almost there, and they can see the light at the end of the tunnel. Plus they're still young enough to basically live another 40 years enjoying their partner and also enjoying their kids now being mature, grown adults rather than changing diapers or dealing with screaming 2 year olds. The trick though is finding the right partner (it always is :-).…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen05/01/22 10:25 PM
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1) Hookup Culture Makes It Difficult To Date Apex fallacy. Only 20% of men get to participate in hookup culture. The other 80% of men have fewer sex partners then men in the 80s/90s. But women, even women not in the top 20%, all want those same 20% guys, expect that they deserve them even, and assume that since those guys are hooking up all the time, every guy must be doing it. 2) You’re Using The Wrong Dating App All dating apps are written by for-profit corporations, and someone who finds the …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen16/12/21 07:46 AM
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It's worse than that. The common joke about MBA school is that after you get the acceptance letter, you should drop out of school and save on the tuition if the school will still give you access to their alumni network. You'll still get 99% of the value of the degree. IOW, top MBA schools are nothing more than paying a (large) membership fee to access their old boys network. While some of the professors may be smart, the actual students are there to party and network, and the classes are basical…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen15/12/21 03:22 PM
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Sure, I don't hold her as responsible as I do the mother. She's a kid, and yeah, it's tough if you're forced to choose between your biological mother vs. someone who's not yet officially your stepfather, and was maybe in your life for only a few years. So I get what your saying. But also, there's no indication that now she truly wants him as a father, and isn't just either being manipulated by her mother (who might have encouraged her to call him in hopes of guilt tripping him) or still sees him…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen15/12/21 02:55 PM
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Worse than cosmetic. I've always read it as code for either 1) rich or 2) entertain me monkey! 1) No woman gives a fuck if you're intelligent in any subject that doesn't generate lots of cold hard cash. Otherwise astrophysicists would be slaying more pussy than Leo DiCaprio. Intelligence is just a nice code word, like ambitious or hard-worker to disguise the fact that she's a gold digger. 2) If your intelligence doesn't translate to 6-figure salaries, then it should at least entertain her. Becau…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen15/12/21 01:06 AM
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Well, we did feature a fine lady here in the past who pursued "healing" via swallowing loads from a random dude in a club: https://www.reddit.com/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen/comments/q2od0l/gentleman_gets_charged_an_extra_131445_minutes/ Personally, I'd love this fallacy (phallacy?) to spread. Sort of like how women convinced each other that learning how to pole dance was a good way to exercise / be empowered.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen14/12/21 10:24 PM
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Agreed. The OP doesn't specify his dynamic with the daughter, but it appears that she stopped coming around when her mom did (i.e. before the actual breakup). If she truly valued having the OP in her life, she would have found a way to stay in touch with him. Even if her mom forbid it, she could at least make a few phone calls, even if it's to ask him to speak to her mom to allow the daughter to come by once in a while. None of that appears to have happened. The minute the mom left, the daughter…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen14/12/21 09:54 PM
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Sounds like this should be flaired Friendzone Fiona, because, it sounds like this guy is her friend. Or am I missing something? He "saved" her while she was fucking random bar dudes and while she was in a "horrible" relationship with another guy. Sounds like the friendzone, no? And maybe I'm just too cynical but "He reintroduced me to some people who have been loves of my life" sounds like a fancy way of saying "I fucked his buddies"... Anyway, maybe in the end she's actually dating him. But eit…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen14/12/21 04:34 PM
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I have pity of her, Look, I don't wish she die in a horrible car crash or something, and as a general principle I hope people find happiness in their lives. But I don't pity her. My pity is reserved for people who truly don't deserve their situation. Random shit happens to lots of people all the time. Little kids get tortured with cigarette lighters by their parents. People in Ethiopia starve due to famines. Tornadoes wipe out a family's house. These are all people who deserve my pity because th…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen14/12/21 03:16 PM
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We usually profile posts from women looking for men, but occasionally it's good to see posts from the man's side of these interactions as well. While the OP being able to get his money back when she sold her house is a nice cherry on top, I think this post highlights the extreme lengths to which women expect relationships to be a one way street. The truth is, good men do exist. But you need to be a good woman to attract them. It's the latter point that always get lost on women, who either want r…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen14/12/21 02:36 PM
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The worst part is, child support is paid to the custodial parent (i.e. the mother in most cases), with absolutely no guarantees that the money will actually be spent on the child. The money you pay to provide clothes for your children, after school activities, tutoring, etc. can be spent by the mom on purses and a motorcycle for her new boyfriend. And you can't do anything about it. There are plenty of stories where the Dad ends up paying twice, because on the weekends when he sees his kids and …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen14/12/21 01:36 PM
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This is such a great crystallization of all that's wrong with feminism. Thanks for sharing it! Feminism always assumes that, just because guys don't complain much (historical and cultural training to be stoic and "grin and bear it"), whatever they have must be awesome, while whatever women have must always be awful. It's the worst case of grass is greener on the other side thinking ever. Whether it's work ("No fair that men get to go to work and I have to stay home! Work must be all Mad Men havi…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen14/12/21 12:08 PM
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Not only that, but it's precisely the downsides of sex work that cause the pay for sex work to be relatively high. For example, oil field workers get paid 6 figures for manual labor that doesn't require a college degree (still skilled though). Why? Because the risk of injury is high. So the pay has to be high enough to attract workers to the dangerous job. Similarly, prostitution and other forms of sex work are known to lead to significant long-term personal consequences, including diminished pr…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen13/12/21 08:51 AM
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She will fuck it up, true, but the guy will be fucked in the end. If he won't cheat, then she'll be "forced" to do so. And regardless, when she detonates the marriage, the court will allocate the house, half the shit, half the guys income plus child support for 3 kids now "accustomed" to a life in a big house with servants, while she can still stay at home. At the end, he'll still be making 7 figures but most of it will be going to her, and any assets he built up will most likely be hers. In the…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/12/21 02:01 PM
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On the bright side, if she did get promoted and is now making decent money, her poor husband won't be on the hook for alimony (child support is a different matter though assuming they have kids). Plus, he'll get to watch his wife destroy her life chasing guys who'll pump-n-dump her. Seeing the look of horror on her face when she realizes interest in fucking doesn't translate to interest in a long-term relationship, might just be worth the divorce. As a thank-you gift for freeing him from the bon…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/12/21 08:24 PM
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Only problem is, the current wife will take half his shit. The way current divorce laws are structured, the woman is always entitled to half a man's wealth, but he's never entitled to even a 10th of her beauty and attraction. That would be patriarchal. Ironically, one of the fastest growing group of people advocating for reforming alimony and child support is 2nd wives: they realize that, with half his income going to the first wife, her own children and needs are coming second to someone her hu…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/12/21 08:16 PM
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But not before telling anyone who would listen that she left the marriage because the husband was "abusive" and the relationship was "toxic".
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/12/21 08:12 PM
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I disagree. They think they can engage in all of this and *not* be ruined. That someone, usually a guy, will rescue her anyway. Why do people go on rollercoaster rides? Because it only seems like you're going to die. So you can scream, have your heart pounding, breathe heavy, adrenaline rush, but know that somewhere, some engineer did the calculations to return you safely without so much as a broken bone. Same with women. They love drama because they grow up so sheltered they don't think the dra…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/12/21 06:26 AM
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Feminism: encouraging women to adopt male vices while dropping female virtues. And encouraging men to adopt female vices while dropping male virtues. And we wonder why society is fucked...
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/12/21 06:09 AM
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It's funny how we've all independently come to the same exact rule :-) I'm a three-date kinda guy but by the 3rd date it's gotta be sex or at the very least naked and everything but sex. And yeah, I'm pretty chill the first date (unless she escalates) just to see where she's at, but if I get the wrong sense when I try to hold her hand or put an arm around her waist, then that's the end. There is no second date. And the truth of the matter is, if a woman is a lot of fun to talk to and hang out wi…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/12/21 06:07 AM
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I'm not so cynical as to be confident in asserting that the worst option is what will happen. But the worst is already happening. If you give a guy a chance to plow his way through hundreds of women, he'll do it. Yes. But we're learning that women are no different. They'd rather do that then settle down with one guy too. Globally, marriage rates are dropping, births are dropping even faster, and lots of men *and* women, are (either by choice or not) living alone. Not a single country has figured…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/12/21 05:54 AM
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But there's a tradeoff. Women have bountiful opportunities but this is very time limited, and there's very little she can do about it. Every woman out there is less desirable when she's 40 than when she was 25. Sure, Halle Barry at 40 was still more desirable than lots of 25 year old women, but she was an absolute smokeshow at 25. All the yoga / exercise / eating right / plastic surgery / etc. can only delay the inevitable, but it will never make her look better than she did at 25. The only exce…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/12/21 05:38 AM
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everyone seems to be making upwards of $250k in NYC, even outside of finance. Looks can be deceiving: https://www.point2homes.com/US/Neighborhood/NY/Manhattan-Demographics.html tldr: forget about all of NYC. In Manhattan, the median *household* income is <$120k. That's household, and the average household (in Manhattan) has 2 people with no kids. Many of those are dual income families. That means the average personal income in Manhattan is likely to be ~$70k/yr. Definitely less than $100k. That'…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/11/21 12:00 AM
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I disagree, and this is really important because it shows just how skewed even guys' notion of what's an "average" guy has become, thanks to women's expectations. Let's start with just the #1, 2, and 4: Must be 30-45 Must be financially stable Must be 5'10" or taller We know that financially stable is code word for 6 figure income. A male earning $150k a year in the US is already in the top 10% of all male income earners. Among 35 year old men in the US, only 35% are 5'10" or taller. Let's say t…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/11/21 09:34 PM
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I wonder if that's changing with #metoo. In high school / college / post-college times, alcohol was used by women to behave badly and be able to blame it on "I was soo drunk!" Getting black out drunk and fucking was the point, not a regrettable side effect. I'm sure plenty of women still use alcohol to lower inhibitions and provide a nice excuse the next day for why they're not a slut ("it was the alcohol!!"). But guys have to be much more careful. A woman doesn't even need to be obviously drunk…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/11/21 07:16 PM
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I've known women like this (thought not as extreme) and here's the deal: that list is not actually meant for guys. It's meant for other girls / her BFFs/frenemies. What do I mean? There's a certain type of person who thinks that having impossible standards makes yourself look better. For example, a woman who would be happy to go camping at the local state park, or who would be overjoyed if you spent a weekend in a Holiday Inn at some small tourist town nearby, must be a simpleton. Someone who's …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/11/21 06:52 PM
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Girls like this have no idea how ridiculous they sound. Here's the reality. They're single. And they hate being single. But they'd be traitors to the feminist cause if they admit they're lonely and need a man in their life. So instead, they talk about how they need male "friends". Much better because who doesn't want friends, amirite? Meanwhile, any man worth his salt is withholding his friendship and emotional connection for someone worthwhile, and in the meantime, just pumping and dumping thes…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/11/21 12:26 AM
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The reason is cruelty. Despite women proclaiming they like sensitive guys in touch with their feminine side, they actually despise them. Only women can get hurt. Guys are supposed to grin and bear and not let it affect them. So when they say "Who hurt you?" it's not in the caring way they may ask a woman or a child. It's in a contemptuous, insulting way because if you get hurt, you're not a man. Especially if it's getting hurt by a woman. That's 10x worse. That's why the only good response is a …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/11/21 12:05 AM
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I wish my grass was emo. Then it would cut itself... Sorry, bad joke, but I always laughed at it :-)
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/11/21 11:10 PM
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/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/11/21 09:46 PM
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Women will complain about liars but they have zero respect for honesty aside from dismissing them Not entirely true. It's just that they define lying and honesty different. Men look at facts and reason. Women look for "emotional truth". What does that mean? It means if you lie but seem sincere about it or 100% convinced yourself that it's true, then she'll believe you, facts be damned. And if you seem unsure, or hiding something, or whatever, then she'll assume you're lying, regardless of the fa…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/11/21 08:31 AM
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It's more mercenary than that. If she has shared custody that means her child support payments are cut as well. Depending on the custody split, she might even be paying *him* for child support. Marrying a dad with kids means a big chunk of his check is already going to the first spouse, which leaves less for her. How are you supposed to divorce rape a single father who was already picked clean by the woman ahead of you? That's so unfair. That's why she wants fresh meat to dig her claws into.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/11/21 02:31 AM
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They've always had that spec. The difference is, in olden times, KS's advice would have been given to her by her mother, father, grandmother, aunts, etc. from when she was a little child, so it wouldn't have been surprised her that that's the consequences of her actions so far. It might have even kept her from making those mistakes. Nowadays, she has to wait until she's 34, and a stranger on youtube has to tell it to her for the first time. Of course she jumped out of the chair :-) Women these d…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/11/21 02:28 AM
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It's that amazing women's intuition. You know how they say they can tell within 5 minutes if they're attracted to a guy? Well, that intuition apparently shuts down when a guy is hot, has prison tats, a domestic violence felony, and/or is broke. Then it takes 2-3 years + 3 kids to finally realize this man is no good. But it's not their fault. Everyone knows bulging biceps block the intuition rays from penetrating them.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/11/21 02:20 AM
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Another reason might be that she was hoping to string you along. Women love to humble brag about how many guys are always blowing up their phones and asking them out and yadda yadda yadda and complain to their frenemies about how much time it takes to keep rejecting all these guys, etc. Getting a beta guy to spend his resources on you without giving up any sexual access gives girls a ton of validation. And that includes a guy's time. My goal with texting was very simple: setup a date/time to mee…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/11/21 02:08 AM
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"I spent my 20s fighting the patriarchy and rebelling against old-fashioned expectations of a 'good man'. So instead of working toward a good career and stable life, I spent years gorging on donuts to develop man boobs. Now, I have a glorious set of DDD man boobs. I wasn't one of those blinded men who were slaves to traditional notions of masculinity who were working out in the gym to develop bulging muscles! Now that I have a great pair of tits, I'm looking for a woman with the same. No dyed ha…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/11/21 09:37 AM
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Come on! She sees "unbalanced" relationships all the time! What she doesn't see is that maybe there's a hidden balance. That ugly chick married to a millionaire was maybe the only girl who gave him a chance when he was young and broke. The wheelchair-bound girl dating a hot guy maybe has an amazing personality and is a strong emotional support even while she's physically weak. Bottomline is a lot of relationships look unbalanced on the surface but are far more balanced when you see the whole pic…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/10/21 07:06 AM
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If you have to ask literally where physically good men are (are they in a gym?) Then let me stop you right there. Good men aren't for you. You're basically saying you have such widely divergent interests and activities in life that you never even cross paths with good men. Then how do you expect to build a shared life or have common interests? Here's where good men are: stable but not always exciting jobs, something that you likely lack. After work, doing various hobbies doing stuff you have abs…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/10/21 06:49 AM
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Exactly. I'm calling BS on him crawling back to her. Whether this is his first relationship or not, he seems pretty aware of modern dating, perhaps by watching his friends go through it in their 20s. Most likely, she threatened to leave, and he called her bluff, and she folded and went back to him. But that doesn't look good, so she spins it the other way around for the purposes of garnering sympathy from Reddit. The fact that he didn't change his behavior is the best clue that he was not the on…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/10/21 05:44 AM
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IMHO, the boyfriend should never have accepted her in the first place, when he knew about her hardcore drug use, even before he found out about the whoring out. I think it's a good lesson to learn. It's one thing if a potential partner dabbled in a little weed, or occasional cocaine or something like that. But hardcore addiction, like the OP admits to having is another thing, for 2 reasons: Hardcore, all-consuming drug addiction leads people to do a lot of other things to support their addiction…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/10/21 10:39 PM
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About as legit as comparing someone who chooses drugs and prostitution to an innocent cancer patient?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/10/21 11:03 AM
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1-bagger: you put a paper bag over her head so you don't have to see her face while doing her 2-bagger: you put a bag over her head, and one over yours just in case hers falls off 3-bagger: a bag over her head, one over yours, and one over your dog's head so he won't see anything that would make him lose all his respect for you.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/10/21 11:05 PM
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Nah. She has no idea how tall 6'4" is. It's just that the last guy she dated was actually 5'8" (the average), and told her he was 6ft tall. So she thinks "Hmm.. If that's 6ft, I need a few more inches than that" and puts down 6'4". To a 5'2" woman, any guy over ~5'10" and definitely >6ft are indistinguishable from each other, unless she uses an actual tape measure.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/10/21 10:50 PM
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Unfortunately, married or not, this guy is fucked. The only thing is that (assuming common law marriage isn't a thing in his state) he won't have to divide his assets. But legally he is the father to those daughters, whether it's biologically true or not. But unless the mother is a drug addict or violent, she will gain primary custody. Doesn't matter how good a father he is. At that point, he will be turning over half his paycheck. I'll try to find it again but there's a great website run by a d…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen15/10/21 02:47 PM
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/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen11/10/21 02:29 AM
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We've all heard about male serial killers in prison getting tons of wedding proposals and stuff. I wonder if the reverse is true? Are there a lot of dudes hitting up women in prison, maybe hoping to score a conjugal visit or two?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/10/21 02:40 AM
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That's not true. This sub is full of profiles from fat and ugly women who still make insane demands on what they want out of a partner. They're not "desperate" for a relationship (at least with someone outside of the top echelon of men), nor willing to compromise and accept someone less sought after. Even fat, ugly women easily find guys (even hot guys) to fuck. They then turn this around and assume since hottie mcChad was willing to fuck her once as a slumpbuster, then someone just as hot shoul…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen08/10/21 07:41 AM
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Honestly though, that's true of almost anything they list on their profile. Remember, a profile is a sales pitch: it's supposed to get you matches. It doesn't have to be honest. I've found that many women don't really have any hobbies; they just adopt whatever their current boyfriend finds interesting. It's a very passive approach to living life, but from what I've seen, it's pretty common. So when they list their hobbies, like say "camping", don't be surprised if they don't actually know anythi…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/10/21 11:12 PM
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This whole "40 is the new 30" is fine in all respects except one: if you want children. The biology stops for no one. Want to live a carefree life in your 40s, the one people normally associate with 20 year olds? Go right ahead. Want to have kids as easily in your 40s as women do when they're 20? Uh, not gonna happen. Given that these days one of the prime motivators for both men and women to want to get married is to have children, starting the search for a partner at 40 puts you at a severe di…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/10/21 11:03 PM
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Not sure what country you're in, but in the US, it's not that hard to get into a law school. It's hard to get into a *good* law school. If you're not from the top 20 schools, you generally won't make enough money to pay back your student loans. The other ~500 schools are there because they're big money makers for colleges. Tuition is high, and unlike medical schools which require massive, expensive labs and a giant hospital, opening a law school only requires a couple of lecture halls and a few …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/10/21 10:04 PM

Notice there's no analysis of what actually causes those sparks for her. If you're a woman who values things like integrity and kindness, believe it or not, you can feel a "spark" when you see a man display those things. For example, the common phrase women use of having their ovaries blown when seeing a man who's incredibly good with children. If your spark is something like that, then it can take some time to feel it. In this case, this woman expects sparks to appear in 1 date. And also, it's …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/10/21 08:39 PM
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But they do say that!... to their girl friends. "OMG Becky! I met this totally hawt dude in the club last night. I blew him in the bathroom and swallowed his load! It felt so good since I haven't been fucked in like a month!" "You little slut! Tell me all the details!" "I am a slut, aren't I, tee hee! Okay, but you gotta promise you won't tell Billy. I haven't even kissed him yet." "Really? You've been dating for 3 months!" "Yeah, but the thought of his naked body makes my skin crawl. Ugh. Come …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/10/21 08:11 PM
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That was in the Gospel of Chad. It was lost thousands of years ago and only fragments survive to this day. No word on whether it was lost due to warfare, fire, or a scorned Mary Magdelene ripping it to shreds...
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/10/21 07:56 PM
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I mean this in the nicest way possible, but why the fuck are you listening to women about how to attract women? Does a fisherman ask a fish how to catch a fish? What the hell does your friend know about what makes a specific camgirl comfortable or uncomfortable? Did she ever ask one out? No? Then disregard her advice. Fuck this "morally wrong". Ask them which Bible verse she gets that morality from. Better, yet, stop listening to them. I'm assuming these are your female friends, not someone you'…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/10/21 07:42 PM
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A few points. First, why do you care that she thinks you're a creep? Watch what women do, not what they say. In the past, they'd call guys assholes for being too forward. But they'd end up dating those same guys. It's no different now. The only reason you need to care about what she calls you to her friends is if she's part of your circle of guy friends (female friends will be more attracted once they learn you're a "creep" just like they used to be attracted to assholes), or if she's at work wh…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/10/21 07:21 PM
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Alpha and beta are more about behaviors than looks (although looks are one component). That's why there are ugly guys out there dating tons of women, and hot guys in unhappy relationships. You can be physically attractive, but if you have beta behaviors e.g. putting a woman on a pedestal, letting her wear the pants in a relationship, etc. she'll find you unattractive and leave. Similarly, if you're ugly, but you have alpha behaviors, you can often get a woman far more attractive than yourself. T…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/10/21 06:51 PM
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These are the rants of a broken woman who's never actually had a good relationship If she is amazing, she won't be easy. If she is easy, she won't be amazing. Actually, that's not how it works. All relationships are hard work, but if you two are compatible and right for each other, it will be easier than if you two are incompatible. She's trying to gaslight you before you even meet her hoping you'll believe the converse: if she's a difficult bitch to get along with, it's because she's awesome. I…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/10/21 11:17 PM
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Want younger prettier = Shallow Not choosing boring catches Want taller, richer, hotter = not settling FTFY. Don't believe for a second it's the lack of interesting conversation that she finds unattractive. That's just her way of covering up her own superficiality when posting in a forum. If George Clooney sat across from her and stayed mute the entire dinner, she'd still bang him.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/10/21 11:01 PM
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I ain't got time for that neither So who do you have time for? And more importantly, do those guys have time for you? I ain't got time for any woman who's not a Victoria's Secret model either. Why oh why is my appointment book entirely empty??? If every guy you want is "shallow" and only wants 20 year olds, then your 2 choices are either a) give up on them and learn to love the men that are interested in you or b) die alone.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/10/21 10:57 PM
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Hate to break this to you, but the vast majority of frogs are frogs, and the vast majority of princes are princes. There's only a tiny, tiny number of princes who happen to be cursed into frogs and can turn back with your kiss. But you already know this. Chances are, if you're still kissing frogs, it's because you like frogs and find princes boring. [To make it clear to miss burlesque boobs: frogs = bad boys, princes = good guys]
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/10/21 10:46 PM
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Been there brother. Late 20s for me. I never really got into the whole ONS thing but even the guys I knew who were totally into it eventually settled into something more lasting (maybe not marriage, but something more stable). It just kinda got boring and a little too soul-destroying for me. Ironically, the less interested you are in women (especially the hot ones who are used to guys drooling over them), the more interested they become in you which kinda feeds a vicious cycle...
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/10/21 10:04 PM
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I'm going to assume you're not asking a rhetorical question and answer seriously. Because having a new Ho every night gets old pretty quickly. Even the hungry fat guy at a buffet eventually fills up. And after that, if he eats again, he'll only go for something really tasty that's worth eating, and not just stuffing everything in sight simply because he can. Same with women. Most guys eventually burn out of the PUA game. It gets really old and actually kills something inside you when you realize…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/10/21 08:53 AM
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The guys that are really into spinning plates, and always having a pipeline of new women to replace the ones that get tired and leave, have it down to a science. They know exactly what buttons to push to convince a woman they care about her, and how to do it in the most efficient way possible. The truth is, most of these women have very shallow relationships with people in their life, be it family, friends, etc. It doesn't take much to meet their definition of a "deep" connection. And then you'r…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/10/21 08:40 AM
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That's racist!!! . . . (But I'm laughing anyway 😂)
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/10/21 08:05 AM
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Fellas, he's talking about me. He won't use my dick. Phew. The rest of you though, still need to be careful around him.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/10/21 02:55 PM
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you're already out like a fat girl in dodgeball. ROFL. I'm definitely going to be using that one at some point in the near future!
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/10/21 02:54 PM
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She's on to you. That's why she's "not looking for anything serious."
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/10/21 02:47 PM
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The patriarchy. By fucking chads every night. And dying her hair. And maybe posting dank memes on her IG feed. That's what women mean when they say they fight for something. Oh, you mean fight as in actually put my life in danger for a cause I believe in? Or even lift a finger to do something more strenuous than tap on her phone all day? Give me a break. The struggle is real, but it ain't that real.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/10/21 02:39 PM
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Lol. I had a gateway laptop back then. It was pretty great :-) Never knew why they ended up bankrupt.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/10/21 02:36 PM
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They better not be French. France has a longtime ban on consumer paternity tests (only a court can order one). Their justification: "to maintain the peace and stability of families". I'll let you interpret what they mean by that... https://www.irishtimes.com/news/french-men-s-insecurity-over-paternity-of-offspring-creating-a-society-of-doubt-1.773569
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/10/21 02:33 PM
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Wait, this woman is going to be a lawyer? You mean join a profession whose entire purpose is to protect their client if/when things go bad? No one needs lawyers if everything goes swimmingly. Out of a 100-page contract, 99 pages are taken up by directives on what happens when various things go wrong. And those are the parts that lawyers earn their fees on. Even if most of the time, things go fine and none of those clauses need to be executed, no one -- certainly not lawyers -- ever question the …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/10/21 02:24 PM
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Eddie Murphy has something to say about this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iP_7_P8S1KE Wise words from the *1980's*. Your idea is not new, and remains as dangerous as ever. Be careful!
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/10/21 02:06 PM
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She can still dial up dick any night of the week on tinder, so she naturally assumes she offers a lot beyond a wet hole for a dude looking to end a dry spell. I mean, if she has dozens of thirsty dudes willing to bang her for a night, surely that means she offers enough to become a trophy wife to a millionaire jetset surgeon with 6-pack abs, no?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/10/21 01:52 PM
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One BIG con: if you stay long enough she can get you for child support for the unborn child *and* her first kiddo. Don't think you can get out scot free if you bolt just before she gives birth. If she convinces a judge that during those three months, you established a paternal relationship with the 3 year old, then you're on the hook. At the very least, you will be out 4-5 figures in lawyer fees to fight back and get away.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/10/21 01:49 PM
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This. If some woman has already divorce raped you, taken your house and gets half your paycheck every month, what's left for her to take? Ironically, one of the biggest groups pushing for reforming divorce laws is second wives: they're pissed that the first wife got the best deal, leaving nothing but scraps for her to scavenge. In the more extreme cases, a second wife's income can be used to increase the spousal support granted to the first wife (because the 2nd wife's income reduces the amount …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/10/21 01:43 PM
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You're going through a normal phase, sometimes called the bitter misogyny phase. Usually this occurs after a breakup where you truly hate all women, but it can also be what you're going through, where it wasn't a specific woman you loved, but just a generalized awakening to women's true nature, that totally kills any interest in interacting with them. Every man going from bluepill to redpill goes through it. But you'll get through it. The point is that, in the meantime, you should do 2 things: k…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/09/21 05:38 AM
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Child support is not the right of the mother; it's the right of the child. The mom can't sign it away any more than she can sign away her children's right to schooling. When the baby is born, if she ever applies for any sort of government assistance, the government will go after the father for child support. The whole goal is to find someone, anyone, who will pay for the child and keep him/her off the government dole. The mother's "choice" in this matter is nonexistent, unless she willingly bear…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/09/21 04:51 AM
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Yep. Her idea of having an interesting personality is watching anime and falling asleep on the phone. Women constantly complain that guys are only interested in them for sex. Well... yeah, because so few women offer anything else. It's not like guys *don't* want great conversation, fun activities to share, etc. After all, we hang out with other guys all the time, and it ain't for sex (unless you're gay, not that there's anything wrong with that :-). But most women, especially ones who've coasted…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen09/08/21 05:28 AM
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I feel you brother. I've been there :-) There are options. First is to find someone a little less hot. They don't have to be ugly, but even women in the 6/7 range can be quite cute but not hot enough to coast solely on their looks. They usually do develop at least some intelligence, personality, etc. to get ahead in life, and it can be a great combination. And yes, believe it or not, there are drop dead gorgeous women who also happen to have great intelligence and personalities. They're rare, bu…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen05/08/21 07:55 PM
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Absolutely! And I'd add, most of these women severely underestimate the amount of work it takes to become knowledgeable, funny, witty, etc. Most guys start the process in high school, when they get interested in girls and realize (unless they're hot and/or athletic) that they aren't going to get anyone without developing a personality. Sometimes early, like in middle school if they want to become popular. And it can take *decades* to hone those skills. I'm not just talking PUA type BS. I mean, g…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/08/21 02:12 PM
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I.e. things that give me social validation in real life and on the computer.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/08/21 02:02 PM
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This is the reasoning behind the famous phrase "Behind every beautiful woman is a man tired of fucking her." Many (not all) beautiful women never have to develop a personality because they're so hot, they can get everything they want out of life without it. Not just dates and sex, but money, jobs, invitations to yacht parties, travel, etc. Why do the hard work of developing anything else? Even worse, all those people keep complimenting her intelligence, wit, humor, blah blah blah to get in her p…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/08/21 01:58 PM
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Yeah, this annoys me to no end. Most women "foodies" just means they like to go to expensive restaurants. Not even necessarily good ones, just whichever ones are trendy right now, or are being hyped by some instragram account she's following. Forget about cooking. When some girl says they're a foodie and I try to compare recipes with stuff I like to cook, all I get is blank stares. Bottomline is this: I respect anyone's hobbies in relation to the amount of time / effort they put into it, and how…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/08/21 01:42 PM
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Exhibit A: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCUnWIs88CQ Kate Upton is scorched-Earth-hot but... her dance moves are -- at best -- adorably dorky. But because she's Kate Upton, that video has 27mil views and tons of guys validating that she has awesome dance moves. Have a regular-looking girl do the same moves, and no guy would even notice her.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/08/21 01:25 PM
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What's also interesting is what the NY Times chose to highlight in their title. Because the "man sharing" thing only one of many points the dating coach made, and in fact, she even says she's trying to get women to stop doing it and find one man. Assuming that every newspaper wants as shocking / catchy a headline as possible to draw in viewers, one can assume that, of all the points this dating coach made, this was expected to be the most surprising to their readers. So that means, what *wasn't*…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/08/21 01:11 PM
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Not even death, depending on how desperate she is :-)
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/07/21 08:21 PM
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I'll give her the benefit of the doubt and assume English isn't her first language. She spills tons of ink talking about alpha males, you know she's been alpha widowed (probably a few times). All her talk about being okay with fwb, having relationships on her own terms, etc. etc. is just her rationalising to herself that she was in control, and *she* decided to end things, etc. etc. rather than accept that she was spun around and used as a cum dumpster by these guys she fell for. Especially at a…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/07/21 06:14 AM
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It's not the celebrity part that attracts them. It's the money. Stephen Hawking was famous. But there weren't lines of girls waiting to fuck him. Because he was still just a poor college professor. Meanwhile, there are 80 year old billionaires whose names none of us know, who have hordes of 20 year old insta-thots ready to do the most unspeakable sex acts with them for the chance to hang out on his yacht for a weekend. Don't be fooled by women's lies. They will dance around their primary gold-di…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/07/21 05:53 AM
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Also, the difference between porn and rom-coms is that no guy, even obsessed porn-addicts, thinks real life will ever be like a porn set. Meanwhile, girls think their lives will resemble whatever rom-com or Harlequin romance novel they just read. If men believed in fiction as much as women do, we'd all jump out of helicopters and pick fights with 10 jacked thugs and then have a surprised pikachu face when we end up in the hospital. Also, that thing about traveling abroad: it's why American women…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/07/21 05:31 AM
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If she's actually everything she says she is (good looking, nice personality, living in a big city, stable job), then there are still lots of guys available. Most successful guys in big cities have to invest their 20s and early 30s in their careers before really hitting their stride. Her problem is not that there are no good men around. It's that none of them want her any more. It's much harder because the tables have turned. In her 20s, she was pursued by all sorts of men, including good men. S…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/07/21 05:13 AM
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Exactly. Notice that in the post, she doesn't express any concern about her brother like "I saw him reading this stuff, and I'm concerned if he's depressed, or had a traumatic experience with a girl that he's keeping to himself?" Nope. If she thinks trp/mgtow stuff damages men, she seems to express very little curiosity about whether her brother is actually damaged, or is happy. Only thing she notices is that he doesn't seem to have a girl in his life, and THAT'S NOT RIGHT!!!
/r/MGTOW25/07/21 05:26 AM
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To everyone thinking she rejected a bunch of proposals, read closely: she says 4 guys "mentioned" wanting to marry her. 3 of those 4, she was living with. I'm 99% certain what happened was while living together, she had The Talk with them, asking them "where is this going? I want to get married and have kids!" and the guy said something noncommital like "Well, I'd like to get married one day, and you're great and all, but it's just not the right time, but maybe some day." and she took that as th…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/07/21 08:56 AM
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Dear Abby is an original feature of the Sun Times but it's syndicated to hundreds of papers all around the world.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/07/21 08:35 AM
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Thanks for the kind words! Unfortunately, I think most other dating subs will see that it's from "one of those misogynist incel groups" and dismiss it out of hand...
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/07/21 06:37 AM
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Who's gonna pay their bills then?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/07/21 01:14 PM
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I'm the reason icebergs are melting Is she saying she produces a lot of flatulence with abnormally high levels of methane? Honey, you should get that checked out by a doctor. Farting that much ain't normal. And certainly nothing to brag about.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/07/21 05:31 PM
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I fully agree with her! Now excuse me as I ask her out on a date. Surely she won't care that I raped and killed my last 5 girlfriends, mutilated a few neighborhood dogs, and used to have a dungeon in my old house. That's all in the past! It has no bearing on how I might or might not treat her, right?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen05/07/21 06:33 AM
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Yeah, to a feminist, an ugly woman going nude is empowering, but a beautiful woman going nude is exploitative. Yeah right, the real issue is that an ugly woman posting nudes doesn't threaten you, nor make your man horny, while a beautiful woman doing the same makes you compete against that for male attention. A woman will "You go gurl!" another woman only so long as she isn't a threat in any way. After that it goes quickly to "I will cut a bitch". Morality has nothing to do with it.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/07/21 09:00 AM
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Yeah, but they get their comeuppance in the end too. Their attitude and their refusal to engage with the good guys you mention means that the good guys eventually leave the site, leaving only the fuckbois and players. I'm not on OLD, but I've heard from friends that the only way to play it is as a numbers game: they literally swipe right on every single profile, wait to see who matches back, then look at a few pictures of their matches, text a quick "hey" to the ones they like, and see who's dow…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/07/21 08:51 AM
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I can't answer for the sub, but I will answer for myself. It breaks down to a few points. 1) Many of these single mothers won't date single Dads. They want a man who will spend all of his money on their children, not someone who has to send half his paycheck to his ex-wife to support children that are not hers. This is hypocrisy of the highest order. 2) These women refuse to recognize how much of a drop their relationship value has taken after they have kids. Lots of these women with kids, you c…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/07/21 08:34 AM
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You'd like to think that, but I highly doubt it. I bet her definition of a "nerd" is a Brad Pitt lookalike who happens to wear glasses. Also, if the only thing she likes about him is his 6-figure salary (i.e. she isn't actually genuinely attracted to nerdy guys), then most likely, she'll be cheating with the pool boy and other dudes to get the other 6's that she's missing. The pre-existing house and the savings are needed so that she can divorce fairly quickly without waiting 7-10 years for the …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/07/21 08:16 AM
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Her boyfriend asking for anal sex is treading on dangerous territory. If she finally relents, that's a rape charge waiting to happen, whenever she decides she's pissed off at him enough to drop that bomb of "He coerced me". There are literally girls who've assaulted guys (giving them blowjobs when the guy was drunk and unable to consent) who then successfully accuse said guy of rape. Does he think her accusations wouldn't stand? His best bet is to leave her and find someone else. He wants the bu…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/07/21 08:12 AM
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Few women are. No women are. Even one who's supermodel hot with a great personality, if she likes you, she'd never ask you to do a survey or qualify yourself in such a derogatory way. If she does, it's a great sign she views you purely as a beta bux and that it's time to leave before she sinks her claws in.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/07/21 08:01 AM
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I'd have had fun with it. As long as it wouldn't take too much time, I would have ticked off all the "right" answers, and then when she all of a sudden starts to be real friendly, unmatch her saying she's not worth it. Or, if there's a box for additional comments, put in "My current job pays me $500k a year and I didn't have to fill out a survey to land it." Then wait and see if she comes groveling back. Surveys like this can be amusing ways to fuck with people; something to do while you're usin…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/07/21 07:58 AM
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The ages are a clue: she's 26, right at the peak of her SMV. She's probably seeing her single friends having one night stands with hot guys, getting dinners bought for them every night, etc. etc. and figures she can do the same, at least for a few years, and then can monkey branch back into a stable relationship with a great guy just before that possibility slips away. These women try to time their monkey branching with less margin of error than the trapeze artists in a Cirque de Soleil show, an…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/07/21 08:15 AM
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You're probably going through a difficult time right now, and I feel you. But don't ever try to understand what a woman says. Even women don't believe their own words and claim the right to change their minds at any time (just try to get a woman to commit to something she promised to earlier). Instead, watch what women do. Not knowing you or your girlfriend, I can't say for sure what she means by her phrase, and I'm not going to waste my energy on trying to understand it (neither should you). It…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/07/21 08:02 AM
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No, that's not the therapist's job. The therapist's job is to help her make correct decisions now and in the future. The past is past. There's no changing it. Agreed. But if you don't have an honest reckoning about what you did wrong in the past, and why, then how are you ever going to keep from making the same mistakes now? This therapist is enabling her bad behavior. The OP already knows she did the wrong thing 8 years ago. The problem isn't that the guilt is killing her (she's not suicidal. S…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/07/21 07:45 AM
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Hahaha. I thought I was the only one! My friend sees a therapist about her marital problems. He (the therapist) has apparently been divorced 3 times and is currently single. To me, it seems like getting diet advice from a 400 pound heifer, but what do I know? I'm just someone "too much in denial" to get therapy myself, I suppose...
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/07/21 07:29 AM
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It hasn't changed. Lots of women in their 40s/50s now blame Sex and The City for ruining their expectations "You mean I can't whore around until I'm nearly 40 and then get swept off my feet by a rich handsome Wall St. finance guy with a cock so large his nickname is Mr. Big?!" Entourage was basically Sex and The City for guys. Only difference is I've never heard any guy say Entourage ruined their expectations of what real life could be (And I lived in LA for several years; even there no guy ever…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/07/21 07:25 AM
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I wouldn't worry too much about consequences. I don't think there will be that many. Even if she talks to her parents, it's not like she's a virginal 18 year old daughter that you've ruined her virtue or something. She's an adult, she ostensibly has had sex with others after her divorce, so no one is going to really care. That said, for others reading this, I will back up the last part of your statement, which is that "revenge" on the women that wronged you earlier in life is very short-lived an…
/r/WhereAllTheGoodMenAre01/07/21 03:37 AM
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I disagree. From the interviews I've seen, he starts by asking the woman what type of life they would like, and then shows that the life they want needs astronomical amounts of money like $400k/yr, and that there are very, very few men (or women) who make that kind of money. He's not trying to convince them they need that lifestyle. He's trying to get them to see how unrealistic their lifestyle expectations are by putting an accurate dollar value on them. The point of this is to show that the in…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/07/21 02:31 AM
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You can tell from her body language that she doesn't love this guy. In the first picture, he has his arm around her but she's just standing there with her arms to her side. In the 3rd picture, he's turned to her, but she's turned away from him, using her arm to shield herself from him getting any closer. Classic AF/BB. I'm sure she's fucking some big, strapping meat eater on the side (can't build muscles without at least consuming eggs and whey protein, which comes from milk), while taking this …
/r/MGTOW29/06/21 03:25 PM
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Actually, I 100% support polyandry, both in general, and in this specific case. In South Africa specifically, it says polygamy is already allowed, so it's only fair to allow women to marry multiple men as well. But in general, I support polyandry because, well, if there are simps out there who'd be okay with sharing a woman with 10 other men, then let them. That's 10 men taken out of the market for the rest of the women, and 10 fewer men who will be simping for other women. Ironically, polygamy …
/r/MGTOW29/06/21 03:18 PM
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Relationship Market Value. Girls like this can still have high SMV well into their thirties and even forties if they stay attractive. But no one is looking to start a family with a mid-forties woman.
/r/WhereAllTheGoodMenAre29/06/21 03:02 PM
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Good sir, it's association with women like these that lowers the standing of parasites all over the world. Parasites develop incredibly unique life skills like slithering up urethras, burrowing through skin, and living in eyeballs. The only skill these women have is stuffing their face. So please don't associate hardworking parasites with these lazy beings who couldn't latch on to a small intestine if their life depended on it. The more appropriate reference would be "methane-producing cow".
/r/MGTOW28/06/21 01:43 PM
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It's not just the oil business. I've seen it in my field too. Basically, in any high demand, highly paid field, there is a group of lesser educated women in daily contact with the guys in those glamorous careers. For example, in medicine, there are nurses. In law there are paralegals, and in just about any field, there are secretaries and other office staff. Many women in these groups are looking to date and/or marry the men in these fields. When they first get there, as fresh-faced college grad…
/r/WhereAllTheGoodMenAre28/06/21 07:08 AM
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Also another flawed premise that women should "have sex like men do," as if most men can get sex as easily as the average woman and as if men all participate in that manner. This is the single biggest flaw, IMHO, of feminism: they look at life for the top men in any aspect, and then expect that *every* woman should be able to do the same, without realizing that very few men ever reach those heights, so most likely very few women will reach them either, and then doubling down by refusing to ackno…
/r/WhereAllTheGoodMenAre28/06/21 06:29 AM
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Their odds aren't good for getting good jobs, or staying out of jails. But odds are very good that they end up single mothers with a gaggle of kids or fukboi deadbeat dads with a bunch of kids they're avoiding raising. IOW, they will be failures in social terms while being supremely successful in evolutionary terms. It's sort of like how our society is so messed up, obesity is now a problem of poverty. Similarly, fertility is now correlated with idiocy and degeneracy.
/r/WhereAllTheGoodMenAre28/06/21 05:53 AM
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.oh, and have sex, so that's why they need a man instead of just hanging with all their girlfriends No, they need a man to fund all those activities. Girlfriends don't pay for other girlfriends' activities, as they're constantly broke themselves. Indeed, if you end up hanging out with the entire group of girlfriends, you will be expected to pay most of the group's expenses, not to mention serve as their guardian when "creepy guys" try to hit on them, plus rescue them when one of them inevitably …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/06/21 05:42 AM
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Because her friends are on tinder too and might run across her profile and she needs plausible deniability that she's not actually on the app to get railed by different men every night. "No, I'm not that type of slut! I'm not that desperate to need dates off tinder, hahaha! I'm only on it for friends, see I say so right on my profile!"
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/06/21 05:23 AM
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I don't get the phrase "trying to live her best life". Is it some new BS phrase like "living my truth?" What is this best life that she's trying to lead? Does it include lots of chocolate cake, a bastard child, tattoos and obesity? Is that really what she conceives of as "her best life"? If not, perhaps she would do better to analyze her failures rather than double down on them.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/06/21 05:16 AM
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More accurate description: "All I ask is that you: deal with my pregnancy mood swings pay for my baby's care not have sex for 6 months while my blown out vagina heals watch my kid so I can sneak out to fuck my baby daddy pay child support even after you wise up and leave my sorry ass ...unless you're Chad, then all I ask is that you show up at my door with a hard dick for a few hours. No condom needed, I'm already knocked up"
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/06/21 05:45 PM
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So she wants hotter guys than what she can attract. Yeah, and I want a Victorias Secret model too. Woe is me. Does she really think she's unique in this regard? And instead of solving her problems by either a) learn to like the men she's attracting or b) improve herself to improve her dating prospects., she is asking about c) stop dating altogether. Bwahaha. What does she expect will be her situation in a few years? Especially as she specifically rejects doing anything to improve her appearance …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/06/21 05:38 PM
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This is really easy, but she won't do it: change what you think is exciting, and what's boring. Yeah, that's right, the problem is with you. If you are excited by bad boy behavior, then you will, by definition, like being with bad boys. If a nice guy starts behaving badly, he's *no longer a nice guy*. By definition, he's now a bad boy. So when you say how do I choose the right balance between nice and exciting, you've already lost because you yourself view these things to be opposite ends of the…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/06/21 05:26 PM
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emotionally unavailable man = (in feminist speak) a man who knows his worth and isn't going to be exploited for unpaid emotional labor.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/06/21 04:53 AM
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I've never been to Saudi Arabia, but I saw a travel program about it, and they said that's because people there keep camels there like people here keep horses. They're kept in stables in the desert, and on weekends, they pick up their camel and take them to camel races. At least, that was the Travel Channel G-rated explanation of camels in pickup trucks. I should have known it was just a conspiracy to cover up their real use in dromidary sex trafficking!!
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/06/21 04:28 PM
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Even harder: find a CHAD who is family oriented and ready to commit TO HER.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/06/21 03:01 PM
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Yeah, I agree. The reason women try to monkey branch is because, if you're an attractive woman, it pretty much always works. They don't even have to swing. They can just fall backwards confident that there's some branch nearby that will catch them. If you want to date a hot woman who likes being in relationships (plenty of them like serial monogamy, although there are plenty who like being "single" too), you'll almost never meet them when they're single, because they never stay single for long. …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/06/21 02:59 PM
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Fatality (Mortal Kombat music playing in the background). Take a bow, mister T. MAGAshiv!
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/06/21 02:19 PM
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This woman is clueless. Her last boyfriend wasn't interested in kids. Surprise! As you get older, the guys who *do* want kids don't want to date you. From 25 to now, when she was dating seriously, sure, she's in a good age range for guys who want a family. But now that she's in her mid-30s, only 2 types of guys will still want to date her: guys who genuinely don't want a family (either never-married guys who don't want kids or divorced guys who already have kids), or guys who say that but really…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/06/21 02:16 PM
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They fancied her because she was a foreign exchange student which means she'll be going back to Britain at some point which means she's guaranteed to only be looking for short term flings. What guy wouldn't want to be some foreign girl's fling when she's "exploring her sexuality" in some distant land where the stories of her debauchery will never reach her home? Fat American girls who go to Europe get plenty of attention for the same reason. They're easy and they're looking to get wild and (most…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/06/21 02:09 PM
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And this will be her downfall. You're absolutely right. Her standards will be tall, hot, sexy career *and* must own at least 60,000 acres of farmland. At that point, she'll have limited her dating pool to maybe several thousand people in the entire country. What's more, she'll never stop to ask herself "what do I bring to attract such a man?" She'll never realize that the guy she's looking for won't give a flying fuck about her engineering degree, and unless she has supermodel-level looks, is wi…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/06/21 02:00 PM
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In many ways, feminism's biggest lie is hiding how much work it takes to achieve any of the goals they espouse. Sure, tell a woman she has what it takes to be President. She absolutely does. But conveniently leave out the staggering amount of work and sacrifice, starting from grade school on forward (Bill Clinton met JFK when he was in high school) that it takes to get there, and you've set them up for failure. Feminism looked at 50s/60s era housewives and assumed that what they had could be obt…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/06/21 01:49 PM
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I'm going to reply specifically about musicians and other artists and why they're so attractive to women. All artists operate on an emotional level. Music brings out emotion, whether it's excitement, love, rage, whatever. Same thing with paintings, poetry, etc. We don't listen to a love song because it contains practical tips on how to have a good relationship. We listen to it to elicit those emotions of perfect, pure, dreamy love that most of us have even before we actually fall in love with a …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/05/21 02:44 PM
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Dude, you messed up the joke! :-) The unit of measurement is called a milliHellen -> the face that could launch 1 ship. So Hellen is 1000 milliHellens or 1 Helen. These units also work in negative -> the number of ships you'd give a man to take this woman off your hands. The women in this video range from about a -100mH (I'm not a rich man like Agamemnon, I can't scrounge up a thousand boats) to maybe +1 (leaky, used, dinghy) mH.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/05/21 02:24 PM
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I see you're trying to engage in reasonable debate, so I'll try to do the same. The first question I'd ask you is to define what you mean by incel ideology. I responded to one of your comments below, but from where I sit, there is no unified incel ideology, because the range of men who are involuntarily celibate is vast, and the simple fact that they're all celibate doesn't mean they all fall in line into a single groupthink. Their celibacy is not (always) what defines them. Why do you keep insi…
/r/WhereAllTheGoodMenAre17/05/21 07:36 AM
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There's no such thing as incel ideology. Anyone who is involuntarily celibate is, by definition, an incel. And people who are in that situation range from angry deranged guys like Elliott Rodger, all the way to withdrawn, depressed guys leading lives of quiet desperation but without bothering anyone else. The one thing they all have in common, perhaps the only thing, is that they long tremendously to have a woman in their lives, not just for sex, but for actual human companionship. Yes, some men…
/r/WhereAllTheGoodMenAre17/05/21 07:18 AM
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I’m specifically speaking of the men who intend to control women’s choices instead of engaging in a conversation with them With all due respect, you need to re-read the posts then. The vast, vast majority of responses to most of the posts in this sub do not want to restrict women's choices. They merely want women to take responsibility and own the consequences of those choices. If you want to ride the cock carousel for decades (to take your example of something you think is hateful to say), no o…
/r/WhereAllTheGoodMenAre17/05/21 07:02 AM
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"TRP and PUA are brainwashing and manipulative! They teach men to lie to get in a woman's pants. Don't they know honesty always works best?!" Says the woman in makeup, 4 inch heels, pushup bras, with botox in her forehead and assfat injected in her lips.
/r/WhereAllTheGoodMenAre16/05/21 09:08 PM
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LOL. But that depends on what species of whale she is. Imagine being with her for a few years, waiting for that sweet ambergris to finally come through, and then a passing marine biologist tells you she's the wrong species...
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen16/05/21 08:49 PM
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She doesn't need the penis *right now*. Rest assured, she will soon, and when she does, she'll find it in some other dude's bed.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen16/05/21 08:39 PM
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She says the highest compliment is someone who says they enjoy her company. Meanwhile, the lowest thing someone can say is that they like that your body makes them feel good. Which one of these dudes do you think she's had sex with? Both I'm sure wanted it. Which one got it? And yet women are puzzled by how, as time goes on, there are fewer and fewer nice guys and more and more players and fuckboys...
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen16/05/21 08:34 PM
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This is the exact reason why I have a 3-date escalation rule: if a woman isn't sexually attracted to you from the beginning, she never will be. She might find a way to convince herself to have sex with you (because she needs a beta bux), or find many of your other traits desirable, but she'll never actually desire to have sex with you. This is a classic friendzone. And this is a great example of what we say: once in the friendzone, always in the friendzone. Making the leap to be her boyfriend is…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen16/05/21 08:16 PM
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IMHO, the problem with dinner dates isn't the expense, it's the time. If I go out to dinner, I'd rather go somewhere nice, because I'm usually pretty busy and if I have a free night to go to a restaurant, I want to go somewhere good. But a nice dinner usually involves being with someone for a few hours. And if it's a total blind date like in OLD where you know nothing about the person, it's better to go for drinks or coffee because you can usually weed out a bunch of people in the first 15-30 mi…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen16/05/21 07:54 PM
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I just want to know: can you invite your kids to your born-again-virginity celebrations?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen16/05/21 07:27 PM
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What, don't you know that the crumbs are the most valuable part? I was saving those crumbs just for you! Only fuckbois like cake and frosting. Real Men know crumbs are actually the most valuable part of a cake, which is why they win in the end and should be grateful a woman saved those crumbs for him.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen16/05/21 07:24 PM
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Exactly. Guys who have their shit together have easily started planning their futures during their 20s. Most of them are far more mature than the "delayed adolescence" club girls doing the cock carousel at the same age. She's just not part of their futures, so they see no need to waste much time talking to her about anything longterm. OTOH, she might be dating guys who don't have their shit together, and just happen to be hot. That seems to be her main criteria for choosing guys.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen16/05/21 07:16 PM
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Yep. This woman is delusional and is rationalizing her rapidly declining value. She says the guys her age are ugly or seem like they've given up. But there are definitely guys in their mid-30s who are still physically attractive but, on top of that, are more established in their careers than those 25 year old guys, have been saving up money (usually in the form of a nice house and car), etc. IOW, they combine the physical attractiveness of late 20s guys with being further along their financial a…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen16/05/21 07:05 PM
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18 year old sex worker? Empowering! Only if some man pays her for it. If you decide "Nah, I have better uses for my cash" and refuse to venmo her exactly what she demands, then you're oppressing her. Even negotiating prices with her is oppressive. Lots of sex workers complaining that in this economy, guys saving their cash are being misogynistic because it means those poor, poor sex workers can't afford their louis vuitton purse or whatever other frivolous shit they buy, and have to go work at M…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen16/05/21 06:22 PM
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I hope that when she finally tells the 7-date dude that while she made him wait until the 10/15/25th date for a taste, she banged some random guy after 2 days. And when he asks why, and she replies "But honey, that guy didn't mean anything, that's why I did it with him. I didn't care about how it would be. But with you, I wanted to make sure our first time was perfect!" Here's how he should reply: "I understand sweetheart. While I was taking you out to the local Olive Garden every week, I felt t…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen05/05/21 03:04 PM
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I agree with you. This woman has the right to liver her life as she pleases (as long as she accepts the consequences), and yeah, if they haven't specified that they're exclusive, then in this day and age, no guy should expect that they are. This post is more a warning / educational for guys to understand that if a woman is sexually attracted to you, she will sleep with you very quickly, usually within a few dates. If she's not sexually attracted to you, but thinks you might be a good partner (i.…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen05/05/21 02:55 PM
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Yeah, what's funny is that, of the responders who gave her positive feedback / sympathy and the ones who criticized her, neither of them know her full story. They're both going off the same info. Yet she only rejects the negative comments, rationalizing that "they don't know me, so their advice is invalid." That's not logical thinking, but not surprising...
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/04/21 04:08 PM
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So ladies, step up to the plate and choose a good man for once Oh, don't worry. They plan to, just as soon as they finish fucking the bad boys. This is the equivalent of playing Russian Roulette. How many times can you pull the trigger before you blow your brains out? Similarly, how many bad boys can you fuck, before your chance to branch swing to a good man is gone forever? Modern women's goal is to fuck as many bad boys as they possibly can, and then swing over to a "good guy" *just* before th…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/04/21 01:48 AM
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Yeah, but it's not the advice-giving woman who's risking getting her face beaten in, so what does it cost her to take a stand for feminism? It's win/win -> she gets to be a good soldier in the movement, and someone else gets to die for her bad advice. This is par for the course in feminism. If woman actually gave a shit about whether their advice is actually helpful to women, they'd have stopped spouting 90% of their bullshit decades ago.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/04/21 01:35 AM
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I'm not trying to excuse abusive behavior, but there's no evidence here that the guy was abusive. Even the woman herself, the only info she gives is that he's a "crazy ex" and she wants to get the locks changed tonight. That certainly might mean she was abused and is scared for her safety, but it could also mean they were in an argument, he went to the local pub to cool off, and she wants to change the locks before he comes back. Heck, she could have cheated on him, he got mad and went to stay a…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/04/21 01:30 AM
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Chivalry ain't dead m'lady. Here I am, your knight in shining armor. Now get thee to the kitchen while I negotiate your dowry with your father. What's that? You want me to open my visor so you can see if I'm handsome? Pshaw, what need? Your father and I will decide how many goats and cows you're worth and finalize the arrangements. You won't be seeing my face until our wedding day. And oh yeah, if on our wedding night I realize you're not a virgin, my family and village will stone you to death. …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/04/21 10:11 PM
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The only thing I'd add to this is that she certainly has the right to find a more "chivalrous" man. She can have whatever preference she wants when choosing a man to date. Her problem is either a) no chivalrous man is choosing her or b) she doesn't actually like chivalrous men. To address the last point first, there are plenty of men around who will happily pay for dinner and drinks, or walk a woman to the train station, open car doors, etc. etc. Unfortunately, women have taken to calling these …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/04/21 10:05 PM
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Not to toot my own horn, but I wrote exactly about this phenomenon a while ago: https://www.reddit.com/r/WhereAllTheGoodMenAre/comments/l3iv6e/what_feminism_forgot_the_glass_floor_is_far_more/
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/04/21 09:56 PM
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Work the hours it takes to get decent money, and brace yourself for the whining. You said it! Women pursue guys working a hundred hours because they're making bank. Then whine that they're working a hundred hours. Umm... you do know that no one pays a guy a million bucks a year to sit around at home selling cosmetics, right? Worst yet, is if you then reduce your hours, with a commensurate decrease in salary, they complain that there's not enough money and why are you becoming a deadbeat? I've he…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/04/21 09:53 PM
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Tell them! I want my head to spin :-)
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/04/21 09:49 PM
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Even among that tiny number, it's not so great. If you make it the NFL, you will be broke or financially distressed within 2 years of leaving: https://theundefeated.com/features/why-do-so-many-pros-go-broke/ Also, the average career in the NFL is 3.5 years before you get injured and cut. What do you do when you have no job, a useless degree, an empty bank account, and, at the tender age of 25 nothing but memories of your past glories? Watch reruns of The Golden Girls on your couch: https://www.e…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/04/21 11:10 PM
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All these women saying they love their kids? The lady doth protest too much, methinks. They're covering for the fact that they actually hate their kids, for ruining their life. Most of these are unplanned pregnancies, and while some people can recover from one, it's clear most of the women posted here cannot. Before, they were able to ride the cock carousel freely, spend most of their time and money on useless trinkets and activities, and focus their entire life's work on satisfying their immedi…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/04/21 10:35 PM
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Hey now. If prostitution is the world's oldest profession, then that means women are the world's oldest businesspeople. Now, what *type* of business are women successful at, that's a whole 'nother story...
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/04/21 10:16 PM
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"I know he choked his last 5 girlfriends, but I'm special! The power of my pussy will tame that bad boy, I just know it!"
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/04/21 10:03 PM
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She's hot compared to other 38 year olds, but she's not comparing herself to other 38 year olds. She's comparing herself to how hot she was when she was 22. That's the problem. If I gave the average person $10mil dollars, he'd be overjoyed at his riches. If I took away $990mil from a billionaire and left him the same $10mil dollars, he'd curse his poverty. It's all relative to where you started from. The truth is, she is falling fast. As an Olympian, she has very little celebrity to begin with. …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/04/21 09:55 PM
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That's the thing: you don't approach religion from an intellectual perspective. It's about faith. Same thing with morals. They are important to you regardless of whether you can create a rational justification for them. The key part of you say is "someone sexually attractive". What is sexually attractive to you? Not every girl finds, for example, an ex-felon with prison tats to be hot. Put her in a room with him, and she won't be fighting an urge to make babies with him. She'll have no such urge…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/04/21 09:31 PM
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No, you don't understand. Every woman knows that RealMen(tm) are attracted to 50 year old obese landwhales with no job, 2 prior marriages, and 5 kids from 6 baby daddies (the first one was conceived in a threesome). Only fuckbois date hot, unmarried women with no kids and an interesting (it not terribly lucrative) career. Doesn't she realize she needs to gain 50 lbs, start swearing like a sailor, quit the olympics and join an MLM instead, and then those Chads will start tripping over themselves …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/04/21 08:01 PM
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Here's an article about her being a virgin: https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/10847042/olympian-lolo-jones-virgin/ I have no idea whether she's still a virgin (I suspect she's a "technical" virgin i.e. blowjobs and anal sex galore, not to mention dildos and vibrators the size of squashes, but no human dick in her vagina, at least none further than the tip...) But I think These two statements are incredibly enlightening as to her mental state and why she's still single: "I'm torn between personality…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/04/21 07:50 PM
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So when an older woman is prevented from seeking out younger men, that's ageist. But when an older man is prevented from seeking out younger women, that's "protecting innocent children whose brains aren't even fully formed yet from old, creepy, sexual predators." Got it. Also, she's still married, and looking for a young, dumb side piece for fun times while she figures out what she wants to do with her husband. But I guess it's empowerment when a woman does it.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/04/21 06:43 PM
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Holy cow. Where to begin with this one? Let's forget about whether she's being "unreasonable" in her standards or not. That assumes she actually has those standards. She doesn't. Let's see why: She's an engineer. That means, through college and her workplace (assuming she's out of college), her sphere was *dominated* by intellectual men, who outnumbered women probably 9:1 or more. These men were at least as smart as her, earned around what she's earning, and the places she spends 8-10 hours a da…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen16/04/21 05:33 PM
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I don't get it. Men find big boobs on women attractive. And yet women don't find men with big boobs attractive. I mean, I'm a Big, Beautiful Man (BBM) with large man boobs and I can't find a woman who's interested. Such hypocrites! Why do all those big-boobed women go out with those zero-body-fat percentage Chris Hemsworth-types without a spec of fat on their overgrown, muscular pecs?? I mean those things are gross to me, so they must be gross to women, no? They're just intimidated by the size o…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen16/04/21 04:58 PM
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LMFAO. Sir, this is WAATGM, not r/RoastMe!
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen16/04/21 04:44 PM
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I'm not a psychiatrist but this is classic projection. The author senses this feeling of dread about being over 30, but because she's a Strong, Independent Woman, these feelings can't possibly be coming from herself. They must be coming from all these insecure stupid woman all around her who aren't as smart and strong. If she can just silence all of them, then the feeling she's sensing will surely go away, since it can't possibly be coming from deep within herself...
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen16/04/21 04:42 PM
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Yes, the way to address someone's fear about anything is to call them stupid for having it, then silencing any and all acknowledgement or evidence that such a fear even exists. Addressing the fear head on, and providing reassurance is for sissies. I believe Freud won a Nobel Prize for developing this pioneering way of reassuring people about the worrisome thoughts in their head.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen16/04/21 04:37 PM
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"My vagina does not preclude me from CHOICE." I fully agree. My beef with feminism is that it doesn't present that choice accurately. Which is misleading women in their pursuit of the best choices for their life. "if we WANT to choose a path that ultimately leads to a great, lonely career, instead of a happy family THATS OUR PREROGATIVE!" Yes. But did feminism present the choices that way? That some great careers will lead to lonely lives? I'd have no problem if that's how the choices were prese…
/r/WhereAllTheGoodMenAre16/04/21 04:31 PM
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I respectfully disagree about what feminism, even non-"angry feminism" is about. We're not talking about the right to read, drive, dress as you choose, vote, travel, go to school, etc. Those were all rights won decades before feminists started advocating for women to leave the house and enter the workplace. To the extent that parts of feminism are still concerned with residual restrictions or problems in those spheres, I support it. But I'm talking specifically about work. And here is where, IMH…
/r/WhereAllTheGoodMenAre16/04/21 03:55 AM
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In this case, I'm sympathetic to the guy, but not to the girl, because my sense (Admittedly I could be wrong), is that this was a one-way street: the guy spent lots of his time and effort on her, and she probably did not do anything back for him. Why do I think that? Because the only point she raises is that he's no longer around to be her shoulder to cry on. Nothing about how she feels bad for what he might be going through, having his heart broken, etc. Granted, it was a short post, so maybe s…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen16/04/21 02:51 AM
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I think both the OP and you are partially correct. I'm a guy, and I have several close female friendships. It's possible. There's a difference between being friends and being in the friendzone. The difference isn't about who has feelings for the other. It's about reciprocity. The girl who friendzones a guy tends to be a pretty shitty friend. That is, it's a one-way street: the guy does all sorts of stuff, spends time, money and mental energy to her benefit, and she does very, very little in resp…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen16/04/21 02:42 AM
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Agreed. This is what these women don't understand: the attraction of an alpha fucks is *very different* than the attraction of a beta bucks. They're entirely different personalities. If you are the type of woman who are attracted to an AF, then you will always chose them, even when BB are around and willing to be with you. This is not the AF's fault. While his behavior may or may not be agreeable to a woman, she doesn't have the power to change him. She only has the power to choose to be with hi…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/03/21 09:50 AM
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Probably a combination of both. When her husband left her for a younger woman, she probably went on a wild slut phase, driven by dual impulses: making up for lost time from being married young, and "getting back" at her ex-husband by finding the worst guys and letting them fuck her in ways she never let her husband fuck her. Since the last time she was on the market was (presumably) in her early 20s, she assumed that there would be an equally endless parade of guys waiting for her when she finis…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/03/21 09:30 AM
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Here's what I suspect is going on: the key is that she says she can't find single dads in her age range (30-36). What's unsaid is that she's looking for a guy with a good career, making good money. After all, she now has a "lucrative" bachelor's degree, so ain't no way she's dating below that. Those guys tend to marry late (maybe late 20s - 30s). And that's when they marry. They don't finish the married-children-divorce cycle until their 40s or later. Which is the age range of single dads that a…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/03/21 12:39 PM
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Yeah, this statement made me chuckle. Those "gross cradle robbing pedos" who are >3years older than her and are interested in dating her will still be around when she's older but guess what, they'll still be looking for women of the same age they're looking for now. Just when she thinks she's "old enough" for them, she'll find out she's too old for them. And the only ones interested in her will have an even higher age difference than before.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/03/21 12:14 PM
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Foodie means she likes expensive food, and you will be the one paying for it. (Note, I didn't say *good* food. There's plenty of great food that you can buy for cheap or cook yourself by following recipes on the internet. That's not what she wants. She needs pictures for her instagram from the most expensive restaurant(s) in town, to show all her frenemies that she snagged a man who's willing to take her to those places. The food is a sideshow, and she wouldn't even know quality food if a Michel…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/03/21 07:32 PM
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Curious what the comments were like to that message. Were people sympathetic or calling it out? It's one thing to know there's one person that psycho out there. It's another to know there's a whole gaggle of them encouraging reach other. Shudder
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen14/03/21 01:37 PM
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It doesn’t make them evil. Just sadder and wiser. FTFY
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen08/03/21 06:45 AM
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Joke's on her. Those non-sex worker girls turn 3-10 years of marriage into a divorce that yields a few kids, half her husband's shit, a house and car, and a lifetime of alimony. If you ask any man, they'll tell you getting pussy from a sex worker is far, far cheaper in the long run than getting it from a wife. If all she wants is a decent meal in exchange for sex (and most importantly, getting the fuck out of my house afterwards) I'd gladly even cook her a meal (after all, I gotta eat anyway, an…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen08/03/21 06:35 AM
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Because they don't know how to make friends IRL, their social skills have shriveled down to texting emojis, she has no hobbies or outside interests that would have her come into contact with other normal human beings, and what other online network does she know besides Tinder for dates, Instagram for ass selfies, and Facebook for MLM scams? Oh yeah, she's also bisexual, but women aren't interested in putting up with her shit, so she's hoping some guy will be stupid enough and "man up" for her.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen08/03/21 06:20 AM
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There are 2 types of boyfriends strippers have: 1) A lowlife ex-con badboy deadbeat who has even worse life prospects than her, and is either cheating on her, beating her, spending all her money, or d) all of the above. 2) A rich and/or handsome guy that she's trying to snare into being her bailout, but who usually sees her as nothing more than a fling and an interesting story to tell his buddies about. The first type is easily dispensed with. Strippers tend to come from broken environments, and…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/03/21 05:43 AM
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...and still will be, on the side, in secret, while you're slaving away providing for her children.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/02/21 05:57 AM
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Not necessarily. Looks are not as important for women as they are for men. A man proves his worth through his achievements, his social status, his mission, etc. A goal oriented, high achieving man is super hot to a woman despite of his looks. Everyone has seen the successful ugly guy with the hot wife and kids. Sorry to break it to you, but you are totally wrong on this. Looks matter for *desire*. Sure, a woman will *marry* some rich 80 year old dude in a wheelchair with a colostomy bag if he's …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/02/21 05:55 AM
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Agreed. The best way to really drive a stake through her is to reply simply "new email, who dis?" Remember, girls feed on emotion, good or bad. While she was probably disappointed after reading that long response, she consoled herself that at least you still have some feelings for her (even if it's anger and disgust). Telling her you totally don't remember who she is at all would have been the far deadlier response.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/02/21 05:42 AM
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If you don't think you'd enjoy having sex with her, then don't do it. Don't let anyone tell you you're less of a man for walking away from "easy" sex. But that said, if the reason you don't enjoy it is because you feel "guilty" about it, then, yes, you should get over that guilt. Unless you're coercing her, or you're somehow tricking her by lying or something, you shouldn't feel guilty that she's decided she wants to have sex with you. You're not using her. Ironically, that's being paternalistic…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/02/21 02:39 AM
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It sucks to see someone sink so low, Hold up. Who says it's sinking low to become a fuckboy? This is female thinking, one that's so messed up, that they think accusing a guy of being able to have sex with tons of women without committing to them is an insult. Don't fall for their thinking. I'm not saying you should become a fuckboy. If that's not for you, no problem. But if a guy is enjoying commitment-free sex with lots of partners, then don't slut shame him by calling it some sort of "low". ​ …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/02/21 02:15 AM
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Nah. Thanks to #metoo, secretaries don't get any alone time with their male co-workers anymore. And no guy will risk his career to chat her up even if she initiates. She could try going to places they enjoy hanging out, like comic-con, but that would mean she'd actually have to care about what *they* enjoy. No way, guys are supposed to be interested in *her* hobbies, not the other way around. Besides, she just wants their money, anyway. Can't she get one to wife her up and give her his paycheck …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/02/21 01:29 AM
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Yep. In the past, something like 20-30% of people met their spouses at work. That's gone now. Since women are such frail beings that having a guy look at her for a half second too long can cause permanent mental anguish, no guy who cares about his career even talks to women any more (outside of the bare minimum needed for work), much less socializes with them outside of work. And the problem with replacing in-person dating with online-dating is that OLD encourages everyone to turn soft preferenc…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/02/21 01:18 AM
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Exactly! Don't listen to what a woman says. Watch what she does. If this woman doesn't know where "nerds" hang out, it's because she has no interest in anything that nerds do, and doesn't even know the first thing about who they are. Look, there are lots of nerdy guys all over. Move to SF and throw a rock on Market St. and you'll hit 10 of them (20 if you have a good arm :-). But she has no actual interest in nerds as people with their own interests, needs, goals in life, etc. She just knows the…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/02/21 01:03 AM
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This is a slight tangent, but there's one jaw-dropping revelation in that article. In the UK, children conceived with donor sperm have the legal right to contact their biological father at age 18. This was due to a law passed in 2005. You know that it will only take a few more years for new laws to pass that make it possible for that 18 year old child to also sue for support from the biological father. Would you want to donate sperm knowing that for the next 30-40 years (sperm can be frozen and …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/02/21 04:32 AM
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Gotta agree here. I've seen it as well. I bet her strategy is to be a pseudo-Christian tradthot. Making fun of liberals and feminists is her way of telling the guys in her conservative area that she's not like them. Meanwhile, she has n-counts rivaling the sluttiest blue-haired feminist, and looser morals than any satan-worshipping wiccan. But because she spouts her pre-programmed platitudes about traditional values, some guy with all hat, no cattle will wife her up thinking he's found a unicorn…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/02/21 03:33 AM
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It's funny how much my thinking has turned 180 since my bluepill days. I 100% agree with you here. I mean, the guy chose Manson as his stage last name after the serial killer. He sang songs filled with transgressive violence to make mothers clutch their pearls and go running (and their daughters to get wet). You don't need some super-intuition to figure out this guy isn't going to treat you like a princess. And to top it all off, he's not really physically attractive and never really broke throu…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/02/21 02:37 AM
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Holy shit. I don't have the words... You know, if these women *actually* wanted to start exercising, and so wanted some workout clothes that fit them, that's one thing. But you know none of these women actually want to exercise. They want to wear the clothes, call themselves super fit heroes, and then go watch tv and eat hot dogs all day. That said, I can't begrudge a company making money off of them. It's sort of like dress makers who intentionally call their size 15 dress a size 10 (since ther…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/02/21 08:52 AM
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feel...possibly like self harming Not to be crass, but honey, whatever you might do to your wrists is nothing compared to the self harm you've already done to your future by not finding a long term guy during the past 10 years when you were in your prime. ​ I have no friends and lost a lot of them pre-pandemic Talk about burying the lede. You can't even maintain friendships that you already have. And yet you're wondering why you can't build new ones? If you've lost multiple friendships recently,…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/02/21 08:42 AM
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Feminists don’t want to make the lives of women more difficult with work. They want them to gain financial independence so they can’t be trapped in horrible relationships or forced to marry for wealth. But that's exactly the fallacy I'm talking about. Working for a living doesn't mean you're financially independent. It just means you're now dependent on your employer to keep from starving. So which is better, depending on your husband to keep you comfortable, or depending on your boss? Unless yo…
/r/WhereAllTheGoodMenAre17/02/21 08:21 AM
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Wait, so girls are supposed to be more mature than icky, immature boys who don't man up and treat them right? Or are they supposed to be less mature victims of "predatory" men? You can't have it both ways. How many times have we been told that men refuse to grow up, Peter Pan syndrome, yadda yadda yadda, while girls are all perfect, strong independent womyn from the time they exit the womb? People mature at different ages. A 23 year old dating an 18 year old might be a perfectly adjusted couple,…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/02/21 06:42 AM
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Exactly. It's why a guy who drives a beaten down 8-year old BMW is cool, but a guy who drives a brand new Toyota Camry (Costs as much as a used Beemer) is a low class nerd. iPhones are status symbols, markers of wealth and coolness. Androids are for nerds and cheapskates. Of course, neither of these are actually guaranteed, but in a world where you are what you consume, it's taken as truth. (PS, I have an Android :-)
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/02/21 06:24 AM
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Because becoming an interesting person by *doing* things takes hard work and skill. So instead of actual accomplishments, women like this try to simulate an interesting life by acquiring the appearance of being an interesting person. For example, tattoos have been around for millenia, and used to be indications of accomplishment: you turned 18 and became a man, or you killed your first lion, or you finished boot camp and spent a year in the suck with your brothers-at-arms. Now, having done none …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/02/21 06:15 AM
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Now she'll go hunting for a beta bux to make up that $150,000. And when she divorce rapes him because "there was no spark", she'll take the house, the $150,000, and then hook up with her ex (he'll go back to her since she has a full bank account again). They'll live in your house and she'll spend your $150k on him. And if you were to have children, god help you. She'll use the child support payments to buy him clothes and a new car, while your child wonders why her mom can never afford to replac…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen31/01/21 11:26 PM
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These filters are getting out of hand. seriously, she barely looks human. If I wanted to fuck an anime character, I'd just hump one of those waifu pillows. At least she won't talk back.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen31/01/21 02:14 AM
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Yeah, I gotta say, the reason she's talking about Jack is because she's brought there by the wreckage crew and, you know, asked to talk about her experience on the Titanic. No one was asking for her life story, just details about her time on the ship. So she told them. Doesn't necessarily mean she puts Jack above her eventual husband, kids, grandkids, etc. Although based on the story, she for sure put him above her fiance at the time.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/01/21 05:53 PM
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I'm going to answer this semi-seriously, with the caveat that there are plenty of guys who like cats, and girls who like dogs. Cats are from the feline family. Their social organization is that they're loners, not pack animals. They have no sense of social order, and generally do their own thing. You'll never see a pack of [male] lions working together. Women are drawn to a cat for the same reason they're drawn to men who are loners: the challenge of taming them. Many of them fail in this task, …
/r/MGTOW25/01/21 12:43 AM
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Thank God. I thought I was the only one. I thought "Hmm... at least she's decent looking for her 50ish age. Takes care of herself. At least she has that." My jaw dropped when I saw her actual age. Like seriously, did she accidently apply the anti-anti-aging filter??
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/01/21 12:12 AM
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I've been laughing so hard at all the comments but yours takes the cake! Really, this whole post should be on r/rareinsults :-)
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/01/21 11:28 PM
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Yeah, I'm aware of the work that shows that peasants in England actually had a better life than factory workers. Englad had to impose draconian laws like the enclosure acts to basically force peasants to give up their better lives on the farm and into the polluted cities and dangerous factories that needed cheap labor. I figured I didn't want to take too much of a tangent into English labor analyses in this post :-) Regardless though, my main point was that in those days, easy or difficult, men …
/r/WhereAllTheGoodMenAre23/01/21 08:47 PM
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Actually, the theory is not bad. The idea is that, most buyers of sex are mainstream members of society, or at least rich enough to pay for sex. They don't need much protecting, and the penalties for solicitation aren't really that high (generally they're considered misdemeanors). So the downsides of being illegal aren't tremendous for an occasional buyer. They still get pretty easy access to prostitution. OTOH, the providers of sex face a whole number of burdens from it being illegal: partly be…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/01/21 07:55 PM
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They have to. Given the number of women who've started onlyfans accounts during the pandemic, feminists will have no choice but to attempt to normalize selling pics of your butthole to make rent. It's the new "I kissed a girl and I liked it, tee hee!"
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/01/21 03:59 PM
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u/exiledinrussia that's always a good option. There are plenty of fish in the sea :-) u/i_accidently_reddit Yeah, I should qualify #4 that the difference between flirting and being a dancing monkey is whether you enjoy what you're doing. I enjoy verbal sparring, and am relatively quick on my feet, so I actually enjoy flirting with and teasing a girl. OTOH, if you don't, or you have a different way of interacting with a girl that you like or are good at, then use that. Here's a test: at the end o…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/01/21 03:47 PM
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The amazing thing is that with such a trashy profile, she's still getting so many responses that she literally has to tell [white] guys to stop messaging her. Either that means most guys never read profiles and just swipe on hot pictures (but even then, does she really represent an "above average looks" woman on online dating???), or the thirst is real...
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/01/21 03:09 PM
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This is a good example of what redpill means about dueling frames. TRP says that you should know your own worth and make a girl qualify herself to you i.e. show you that she's worth your time. OTOH, lots of hot girls know they've got higher value than the guys (especially on hookup apps like tinder), so they are trying to do the same to you. Your frame is that you are valuable, have plenty of options, and she needs to demonstrate her worth. Her frame is the opposite. Thus, dueling frames. So her…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/01/21 02:58 PM
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Most redpill guys hide it pretty well in public company so as not to deal with the bullshit from women and white knights. I'm one of them. If I'm with a group of work colleagues or acquaintances, and a woman starts complaining about how all men are jerks and why can't she find one when she's such a great catch, yadda, yadda, yadda, I'll either stay silent, change the subject, or even smile, agree with her, and then wander off to go talk to someone else. She's not my sister or my daughter. It's n…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen14/01/21 06:54 AM
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Meanwhile, lots of instagram and youtube "influencers" make their salary teaching women how to use makeup, spanx, corsets, high heels, pushup bras, etc., etc., etc. in order to fool a man into thinking she's more desirable than she really is. But they're celebrated as "independent" woman who know what they want and aren't afraid to go for it...
/r/WhereAllTheGoodMenAre14/01/21 06:32 AM
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The worst part about all of this, is that, even if it's true that she was coerced or didn't enjoy it, the guy should leave. If he wants to be a gentleman about it, then maybe help her over the initial trauma of the videos [sic], but don't plan a longterm future with her. Why? Because it's not his job to fix a broken woman. He's making the same mistake as a woman who looks at an ex-felon and says "I can fix him". Reading through the comments, of all these women with weird hangups with intimacy an…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/12/20 08:40 AM
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Exactly. Doesn't matter what "all women" do. OP's fiancee acts like the ones in porn during sex. He has videotape proving it. But as Groucho Marx once joked, "Who are you going to believe? Me or your lying eyes?"
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/12/20 08:23 AM
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*chuckle*. Y'all think she was only riding one horse at a time on that carousel?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/12/20 07:59 AM
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I like it. But I don't think it works in LA. There are always busloads of new hot girls from Kansas hoping for their big break.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/12/20 07:56 AM
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Yes, but what are the chances her baby daddy is an upstanding member of society with a stable salary vs. an ex-felon "bad boy" deadbeat whom she met on tinder and doesn't remember his last name? (Hint, she lists one of her hobbies as "tattoos") Also, know this about the good ole freedom-loving US of A: the government does not give a shit about who is actually the father of this child. Their only interest is keeping mommy and her lil' bastard off the government's dole. If they can't, then when th…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/12/20 07:45 AM
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought this sub was about women who consistently chose men not suitable for marriage up until they "hit the wall". I won't claim to speak for the entire sub, but IMHO, the posts in this sub are about women who refuse to recognize and accept the consequences of their actions. If a woman chooses men not suitable for marriage for her entire life, that's perfectly fine *if* she accepts the consequences i.e. she won't have a long term, stable partner in her life, her a…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/12/20 07:09 AM
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She fully accepts responsibility for choosing the guys she did in the past. That's great. But she doesn't accept responsibility for the guys she's choosing *right now*. She ended things with a stable guy after 3 years because he was boring. I'm not a therapist but I'll analyzer her anyway :-). Here goes: she likes dating men that she knows it can never work out with, because then, when the relationship inevitably fails, she can blame the guy and never herself. If she sleeps with a married man, w…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/12/20 12:05 AM
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Good thing she's bisexual. I can defer to our sisters to woman up and wife up this poor, deserving person.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/11/20 04:16 PM
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This is Alpha Widow coupled with extreme survivorship bias. Women who happen to find themselves working amongst successful men have no idea how rare those guys are. She doesn't see that only a few guys who win the career equivalent of a lottery get to be there, and that even once there, if they have a misstep, they're gone and replaced by someone else (i.e. classic survivorship bias, when you only see the survivors of a process). Instead, since that's all she sees, she assumes that guys like tha…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/11/20 04:00 PM
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Yeah, that's the part that always gets me. Their idea of a "high value man" is totally stupid, superficial things, like height, fashion, dick size, the jewelry he's willing to buy her, etc. I'd actually support a woman who says "I want a man who's kind, caring, stable, and is a good family man, and I won't compromise on those values" (as long as she means it; plenty of women say that because they know that's what they're supposed to say but don't really want that). You shouldn't settle on import…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/11/20 03:39 PM
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LMFAO. That's a good one! /r/rareinsults
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/11/20 01:39 PM
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Wow, this song and video is basically the musical version of every woman posted here. She lists a bunch of stuff the guy needs to have, and says exactly zero about what she brings to the table. (Also, she's just looking for a generic hero not an actual person. The video doesn't even bother ever showing the face of this hero that comes to save her). But since it's 2020, the song needs to be updated, or at least clarified: 1) That house on fire? The one she's trapped in? She set it ablaze herself.…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/11/20 02:43 AM
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No customer-facing job more prestigious than Starbucks barista or secretary at a bail bonds office would hire her, even if she was a genius. It's just not the image they'll want to project. Lips that big are like getting a face tattoo. Which leaves back office jobs. And I have a wild hunch she's not great with programming computers or putting together Excel spreadsheets. So, poorly paid secretary or cubicle jockey in some low-end office, "life coach" to crazy women more broken than she is, purve…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/11/20 12:22 AM
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Naah. She could just be looking for dick too. Either way though, the "because I was bored" thing is a defense mechanism, to deny that she'd otherwise need to stoop so low as to go on Tinder for a date. Before the quarantine, she'd leave her kids at her Mom's place (if she doesn't live there already), put on her best slutty Daisy Dukes, and bring home a guy from the local bar. And once in a while, her nice guy orbiter would take her out for a nice meal. Life was good. But all that's out now. Havi…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/11/20 12:04 AM
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I'm just going to second every point you made. #1: As the saying goes: "Cocaine is God's way of telling you you have too much money". It's not a drug for the poor (unless you're talking about crack). #2: Regarding how women finance their cocaine habit: In the immortal words of Chris Rock: "Pussy is like Visa. Accepted everywhere" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agHkXVMiHG8 #3: I remember being at a few parties where a guy who's finally tired of the chitchat and wants to get down to business tell…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/11/20 11:57 PM
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Except they *don't* know what they're getting. For many middle/upper-middle class white chicks who go through a "thug" phase, the closest they ever came to a criminal was their high school classmate who dealt weed. They have no idea how how serious a crime is to be considered a "felony", nor how massive the strength difference is between a guy and a girl when it comes to even a "small" fight, and their idea of "domestic violence" was maybe one of her girlfriends who got a single open-hand slap f…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/11/20 11:37 PM
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Wait, do you hear something? It's a nurse saying "hold my beer..."
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/11/20 11:25 PM
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I prefer courting to dating. Sure thing, m'lady. Let me sit down with your Dad and work out your bride price in chickens and goats. Just kidding. I won't be paying anything. Since you're likely not a virgin, can't cook or clean, and are as old as grandmothers would have been in more chivalrous times, your Dad will probably be giving me your horse and anything else he has that isn't nailed down to take you off of his hands. PS. What's this University bullshit? Princesses go to finishing school, n…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/10/20 07:51 PM
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True, I didn't account for being oblivious :-) But once you know how to read the signs, and if you're an attractive guy, you can tell pretty easily who's interested in you and who isn't.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/10/20 07:41 PM
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Why do guys have to workout? Can't they just wear granny pants up to their ribcage with rebar-enforced spanx to give the appearance of a fit body without doing the work? You know, just like she's wearing?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/10/20 06:37 AM
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If I'm the problem why do you keep come back? Oh, that's right the other guy doesn't pay your bills. And now, neither will I. Hope your fuckboy has a spare bedroom.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/10/20 05:15 AM
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In 6 years I haven't grown, become more educated, developed new hobbies, or in any way made any progress in becoming a better human being. But to simulate the appearance of change, I'm going to shave my head and get piercings. Because being an interesting person on the inside is too hard. Much easier to make some superficial changes on the outside and create a simulacrum of uniqueness and interest. What makes me different than every other human being on this planet who watches The Office and "lo…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/10/20 04:34 AM
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Except she's not. She's dating bad boys that pump n dump her. If anything she's regressed. 10 years ago what attracted her was a good guy who cared for her. Now, what attracts her is shitty guys and "abusive" relationships. How is that maturing? Don't fall for her passive "guys find me" bullshit. Girls attract all sorts of men, then choose which one to go out with. 10 years ago she attracted just as many douchebags as she does now. But she chose to ignore them and date the good guy. Now she stil…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/10/20 04:23 AM
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Not entirely. They still eventually resign themselves to settling for beta but it's happening later and later. 50 years ago a 25 year old women was considered an old maid and would get tremendous social pressure to find someone, anyone, to marry. In Romeo and Juliet, Juliet is 14 years old and her mom is telling her she's getting old and needs to marry soon. These days women assume they can play the field until their 30s and 40s and then find their beta bux. The problem is, that's way too long. …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/10/20 04:01 AM
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Not entirely. They still eventually resign themselves to settling for beta but it's happening later and later. 50 years ago a 25 year old women was considered an old maid and would get tremendous social pressure to find someone, anyone, to marry. In Romeo and Juliet, Juliet is 14 years old and her mom is telling her she's getting old and needs to marry soon. These days women assume they can play the field until their 30s and 40s and then find their beta bux. The problem is, that's way too long. …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/10/20 04:00 AM
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Actually, approaching when you're a Chad doesn't require confidence. Women make it very clear to guys who they want approaching them and who they don't want approaching them. If you're ugly and you even look at them, they give you a cold bitch stare. And if you're hot and look at them, they smile and toss their hair. At that point, you don't need confidence to approach. It's virtually assured that they'll at least talk to you and be receptive to your flirtations. And the most desirable guys don'…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen05/10/20 01:17 PM
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If she thinks it's bad now, wait 6 months until she hits 40. Thanks to OLD filters, she's no longer even going to be seen by the type of guy she finds desirable, since most of those guys will set age filters <40 (sometimes much less than 40). If she finds the pickings slim on OLD while she's still managing to squeak by some guys' filters, she's in for a rude awakening. The reply below the OP's post is, if possible, even less self-aware than the OP. Yes, the men you want to date are aging as well…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen05/10/20 05:19 AM
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Yeah, they thought that being able to stay home and raise your kids while being provided for by your husband was oppression. While giving some faceless corporation 60 hours of work a week and putting your kids in daycare was somehow liberating... Feminism sold women a lie. They told women that if they fought for the right to work, they could all be doctors, lawyers, CEOs, and even President. That the only thing keeping them from becoming these things was men holding them down. But that's a lie: …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/10/20 05:01 PM
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It's hard to comprehend because women hide it. When I was a typical blue pill kid in high school, I thought girls wanted a guy to pursue them, because they were too shy / prim & proper / etc to do it themselves. And they didn't want sex, they were looking for love. And they wanted gentlemen who would treat them right. And they would never cheat or hook up with a guy they knew was taken. Yadda yadda yadda. Why did I believe all of this? Because that's what they always say. It wasn't until later o…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/10/20 04:43 PM
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Note that this is considered so outlandish, it got archived on "Best of Craigslist" for everyone to have a good laugh. Meanwhile, women create similar posts every day on OLD that are taken completely seriously.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/10/20 04:15 PM
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Someone once posted in this forum, that feminism removed the shackles women thought they had, while removing the shackles men never realized they had.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/10/20 05:05 AM
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The issue is, if she's not cheating now, she likely will in a few years when she's "bored". I would bet good money that this guy thinks this relationship is "amazing" simply because he's inexperienced, and to him, just having a hot girl who tolerates his presence in the same room is "amazing". A girl who truly desires you won't make you wait 3 months for sex, especially if she's slept around before. That in itself shows that she doesn't really love him, just decided to move on to her beta bux ea…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/10/20 10:40 PM
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They're freed from the yoke of servitude! Yup. They don't need to serve their husband dinner anymore. But they do need to serve The Man aka her boss, with 40-60 hours of work a week in order to have the same house and lifestyle that her oppressive husband used to provide in exchange for a few hot meals and occasional sex. That's progress! (Actually, judging by her picture, she's probably a stripper, which means she's fucking and blowing the owner, bouncer, and dj on the regular just to keep her …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/10/20 10:32 PM
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This article deserves a longer analysis because it touches on an important thing: understanding who people really *are* vs. what they seem to be. Her Mom is absolutely right: the reason you don't sleep with someone right away is because the first date doesn't really show you who someone is. You need longer to know them. At that point, if you like them, then sleep with them, no problem. What her Mom leaves unsaid, and which she never examines, is that most women (and I must admit, many men) don't…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/10/20 03:32 PM
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Pretty simple really: You know when you buy a computer and you're happy because you think you got a great deal on it, and then someone shows you a sales paper from a month ago where it was selling for less, and all of a sudden you're angry that you bought this stupid computer for so much money? Yeah, that feeling.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/10/20 07:54 AM
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S/o to single moms: good gardening involves uprooting and killing the weeds that might be growing in your plot of land so that the flowers and vegetables you actually want and plant have the resources to grow... (OP might want to pick a better analogy...)
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/10/20 07:40 AM
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"According to the U.S. Department of Education, more than 57% of the class of 2018 who graduated with bachelor’s degrees were female. The gap for master’s degrees was even wider: 59% to 41%." By a total coincidence, the same study found that 57% of bachelors and 59% of masters degrees were in majors with no actual useful job prospects.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen22/09/20 01:16 PM
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Curious, why did the college allow them to take the course? I doubt an arts major has taken differential equations. Usually if you don't have the prerequisites you're not allowed to register for a class, no?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen22/09/20 01:08 PM
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women have way more chances to get laid than man. That's not entirely true. Women are about quality. They will never date someone who's worse than what they already have. Of course, their idea of "better" might be some convict with big muscles and tattoos, but the point is, she has to feel it's better. In contrast, even guys who know they have something great at home are willing to slum it just for fun once in a while. Hugh Grant not only had sex with an ugly, drug using prostitute, he paid her …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen13/09/20 07:55 PM
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Somehow I'm guessing she thinks the logical conclusion therefore is to become a cold, unfeeling town bicycle, rather than that she should stay a virgin and find one good man to spend a life with. It's science!
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen13/09/20 12:04 PM
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That's an insult to a soft, cozy chair that you can relax and be comfortable in for hours. She's built like a double wide trailer. And probably lives in one.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/09/20 03:51 AM
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The female bartenders came to the aid of the spokeswoman for Arby's and told me if they weren't working they'd punch me, Probably because half of them are also single moms who were equally "victimized" by some bad boy through absolutely no fault of their own. /s
/r/WhereAllTheGoodMenAre11/09/20 01:48 AM
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I get that you were baited into this argument but my advice is to just never take the bait. You will never convince a woman that she is responsible for the bad consequences of her actions (she'll take credit for the good consequences). It would shatter everything she's been brought up to believe since she started puberty. In this situation, if this woman asks what's wrong with single moms looking to date, I'd have replied "Nothing. Hope they find what they're looking for." Then go back to lookin…
/r/WhereAllTheGoodMenAre11/09/20 01:44 AM
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This right here. Every woman says she's got some sixth sense that allows her to know if a man's good in like 5 seconds (actually, it's called a snap judgment; everyone does it. But only women are stupid enough to believe it's 100% accurate). But when you say "why did your intuition take 5 years to know that some ex-felon with a record of domestic abuse and 5 baby mamas might not be good relationship material?" They instantly claim that the guy tricked her or didn't show his true colors until yea…
/r/WhereAllTheGoodMenAre11/09/20 01:37 AM
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Here's the reverse-feminist version of her story: I needed a babysitter, but I discriminated against the male applicant, hoping for a woman, because I didn't want to deal with the potential sexual dynamics of having opposite sex co-workers, even if they were qualified for the job. It was only when no female candidates were available, even shitty ones, that I finally gave the male a shot. I proceeded to violate every norm of employment sexual harassment policies and started sexually assaulting my…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/09/20 04:50 PM
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Also, I have to say that porn is the worst of the industries that a pretty girl looking to cash in on their looks, can choose. The average career of a girl in porn is something like 6 months, because guys are always looking for fresh faces to jerk off to. The vast, vast majority of porn stars make less in those 6 months than they would in a year of honest work in some other job. Even worse, those 6 months are captured on tape and you will never be able to walk away from it. If you're a hot girl …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/09/20 08:33 AM
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The fact that porn stars hope someone [desirable, i.e. top 10-20%] will disregard their past and see them as wife material shows you just how far women will go to deny the consequences of their action. Is it any wonder then that "normal women" who might have fucked just as many guys but didn't do it for money or on camera [mostly] expect guys to not judge them for it? Regardless, there's no point trying to educate these women. Even when they're old and alone, they'll still blame men for their pr…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/09/20 08:28 AM
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If she charges me for taking care of our kids, I'll charge her room and board for living in the house I pay for and eating the food my paycheck buys. Unpaid labor, meet unpaid room and board. Unless babysitters make enough to afford a big house in a nice neighborhood, I guarantee she'll prefer our current deal to the one this woman proposes...
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen08/09/20 01:05 PM
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I think you realize you've made several mistakes so far (the biggest being trying multiple times with this person), but it's good that you're finally ready to move on, and that you haven't been too damaged by it. Here are a few suggestions: 1) When you end things with her, don't have some big speech or dramatic flourish about cutting off ties. Women love drama, good *and* bad. You might give a speech thinking you're telling her how awful she is and how you're moving on, and all she's hearing is …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/08/20 10:16 AM
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"had the audacity to question a woman's body without knowing anything about her" Umm, he knew your age, and if he wants 3 kids he's absolutely right that it's highly unlikely (at least without $100k in fertility treatments and even then it's unlikely). What more does he need to know about your body? The fact that you refuse to acknowledge plain truths doesn't make him audacious to do so. And he does have a modern outlook: use a cougar for easy sex while he's still playing the field, then settle …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/08/20 09:45 AM
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"I was judged based on my age that I had no control on" Ten bucks says she won't date guys under 5'10"...
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/08/20 09:37 AM
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And why the fuck should I care about what some random woman thinks is creepy? Is she my mom, or my sister, or a good friend whose opinion and advice I value? No? Then fuck off. My body my choice. Don't try to shame me for a choice that two consenting adults made that makes them happy. Feminism for her is about "choice for me, and responsibility for everyone else" including other women who are supposed to not choose a guy they would otherwise find attractive just so this woman won't have to compe…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/08/20 09:32 AM
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Let's see... she notices that she's no longer getting matches from guys her own age. But rather than accept the evidence at face value, asks (rather, begs and pleads) for confirmation that this is merely her projecting an "insecurity". When you walk through the jungle and sense a lion is about to eat you? That's not insecurity. That's a healthy and accurate perception of the danger you're in. Similarly, this isn't you projecting. This is an accurate perception of your rapidly dropping relationsh…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/08/20 02:03 AM
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Why can't these people chew gum and walk on the sidewalk at the same time? Is there something preventing women from finding a great man in her twenties, getting married, *and also* furthering her education, developing a career, having a family, traveling, finding yourself, etc? These aren't required to be solitary pursuits, and indeed, having a life partner to go on that journey with you can make it that much richer. Of course, we know the answer: every single one of her statements is just anoth…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/08/20 01:58 AM
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You're assuming they have the capability to assess the consequences of their actions and plan for the long term. If they could do that, they wouldn't be profiled in this forum. So no, they won't change their ways. I'll give you an example: lots of guys have realized that buying a woman a drink at a bar is a sucker's game. It's a lot harder for women to get a bunch of free drinks each night. Did that make women all of a sudden start buying their own drinks, or stop going to bars? No. They still g…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/08/20 03:49 AM
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I agree wholeheartedly that they know the consequences. But I do think they're in denial about some of them. That doesn't excuse them of the responsibility, but I think they genuinely think that somehow, half this stuff won't happen to them. That feeling that everything will turn out okay in the end only comes from a sheltered upbringing, where everything is handed to you so easily, that you can't even fathom that the good times will ever end. They choose not to even investigate what "bad times"…
/r/WhereAllTheGoodMenAre28/08/20 03:29 AM
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"I care about my kids too much to let you be their mother." Holy shit, that's brutal. I love it! :-)
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/08/20 12:35 AM
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Actually works better than alpha game on post-25-30 year old women who are desperately looking for a "good guy" to settle with. Alpha game is fun to run on young women because they're still not too damaged (plus beta game doesn't work on them anyway). But post-30s still chasing bad boys and flashy guys usually have a shit ton of baggage and emotional trauma you will inevitably have to deal with. Meanwhile, beta game filters those women out, and attracts the ones who are still hot but have some m…
/r/WhereAllTheGoodMenAre26/08/20 11:43 PM
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IMHO, there are multiple reasons why men and women are different in this regard: Firstly, men are honest and very upfront about what they're looking for in a woman. If a guy wants a young, thin woman, he'll say that. And then a woman will know whether she's a good fit or whether she should move on and find someone else. Part of the whole nice guy rage is because women *say* they want a nice guy, but end up choosing a bad boy. If a woman just said, "you bore me, and your traits are not attractive…
/r/WhereAllTheGoodMenAre26/08/20 11:26 PM
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But, but... I thought the pandemic was proving how strong and independent all womyn were, and it's supposed to be the guys curling up in a fetal position because they no longer have women to do all the work for them? https://www.reddit.com/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen/comments/i1upe5/which_is_worse_losing_your_job_or_family_members/
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/08/20 04:39 PM
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She was dating her husband at 16, got married at 24, divorced at 30. IOW, all you guys hoping that getting them young before they ride the CC too long and lose their "pair bonding ability" are chasing after fool's gold. Girls who pair up early have a different problem, their FOMO: wondering if they could have done better than the guy they paired up with when they were young and didn't know any better. Or, they know they have a good guy, but all their friends keep talking about how awesome being …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/08/20 04:15 PM
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"In Soviet Russia [and single women relationships], Trailer Rides You!"
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/08/20 03:46 PM
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I can see the porn parady right now: Coming soon: 'Black Klansdyke" (Not) A Spike Lee Joint
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/08/20 03:44 PM
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I bet it's her parents' place. 22 year old single mom, even a smart girl at 22 is unlikely to have a job that can pay for fulltime daycare and a nice house. After all, doctors and lawyers don't start their careers until the late 20's at least. Also explains why she's only looking for hot guys to fuck, and not yet looking for a bailout: Daddy's paying her bills (for now). Expect to find a panicked "looking for a good guy, no games"-type profile when Daddy gets tired of hearing moans all night fro…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/08/20 03:34 PM
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Oh god. Another horse lover... I wonder which is costing her more: care and upkeep of her daughter, or her horse. My money's on the horse. I guess it doesn't matter though because, since she's a low-paid hairstylist, you'll be picking up the tab for both.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/08/20 03:20 PM
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To all of your points, I really want to emphasize this: " the saddest part of losing weight was that people finally complimented him on qualities he’d always had" In psychology, study after study shows that people (both men and women) will judge your character based on your looks. Better looking people are judged to be more intelligent, better leaders, morally upright, etc. It's not a surprise, but it still floors people the extent to which it happens. In my case, I didn't lose 125lbs, but I got…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/08/20 03:16 PM
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Holy shit. This explains a lot. Thanks for bringing it to my attention! When I got divorced, I told my attorney I expected that it would be pretty quick and amicable, because it was a short marriage, we had no kids, there was no cheating or abuse or anything else, we had just decided we weren't right for each other, and we both had good jobs and some assets, so economically we were pretty close i.e. no alimony, etc. My ex-wife filed the petition before we filed ours and I couldn't believe the na…
/r/WhereAllTheGoodMenAre01/08/20 10:56 PM
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What's ironic is that men have always known this and therefore created safe spaces for guys to work issues out by themselves. Whether it was having a beer at the local pub with your buddies, or going to the lodge, or just having a bowling league meet every week. Those were our ways to connect with guy friends and talk through stuff. But in the new paradigm, safe spaces are only for victims of intersectional oppression. If you don't have any hyphens in your identity, you're not allowed to have a …
/r/WhereAllTheGoodMenAre01/08/20 10:09 PM
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Guys, guys, guys. You've misread her post. You only have to like *one* of those things. So if you can read, you'll get along great, i.e. you can smash her on the first date. No need to exert yourself to hit super-hard requirements like being into movies or adventures. Truth be told, even if you meet all 4 requirements (a superhuman task! [sic]), I'd recommend you hide it from her lest you risk becoming the love of her life aka betabux for her and her 3 kids.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/08/20 09:49 PM
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Groupies have been around forever. And word got around about them even pre-instagram/youtube. The real question I'd love to ask is how #metoo has changed things for them. Whether it's college athletes losing scholarships or being expelled for rape allegations, to professional athletes facing either sexual harassment and assault charges or child support payments, it's getting pretty dangerous for celebrities to have sex with these women. What's a groupie gotta do these days to fuck a celeb? I rem…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/08/20 09:42 PM
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I need to rinse my eyes out after reading that horseshit. Jenny may have been molested, and I fully agree that that can lead to them being unable to form stable relationships or pick partners wisely. So if all she did was run away from Forrest and shack up with douchebags for 30 years, then maybe she deserves some sympathy for never getting the help needed to overcome her childhood trauma. But she *used* Forrest at the end. The way he loved her as an adult was likely no different than the way he…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/08/20 09:28 PM
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Amen. It's bad enough this woman expects to have "adventures" on your dime. She'll expect you to pay to keep that horse out of the glue factory just so she can ride it once a month. Not worth it.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/08/20 09:18 PM
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Wait, Jane Austen had an onlyfans account? Only thing I see is that dudes who can't take a woman out to dinner are enjoying their time alone, catching up on their hobbies or just vegging out in front of the TV or the gaming console. Meanwhile, the women now forced to buy -- sorry, MAKE -- their own dinners are losing their minds.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/08/20 09:15 PM
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I don't get this article. She lists a thousand things about her that might lead a man to not want to be with her, but then says it's not me. Sure, sometimes it's not you, it's him, but you just listed a bunch of reasons why it *is* you. Since the only person you can change is yourself, maybe you can focus on changing those things about you that you've already identified are driving away men, and you might find that lo and behold, the men "change" and are suddenly interested in you too...
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/07/20 11:16 AM
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As they say, men don't redpill men, women redpill men. Become a better, more attractive guy or you will end up their slave as they have Chad's kids and give you the "privilege" of raising them, all while denying you sex or your other needs anyway. In many ways I agree with her points. My only beef is she only presents half the picture: women aren't actually happy having a bunch of one night stands with hot guys who don't stick around. That's not me projecting, that's literally the name of this f…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen14/07/20 02:54 PM
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But don't you know, that Chad is a wife beater, it says so right on his tinder profile. That's why I was afraid! Why did I match with him in the first place if his profile openly says he's an ex-con? Because being with a violent, angry guy gives me the tingles. Either way, it's not my fault!
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen13/07/20 02:08 PM
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Ah, but the color of thong Kim Kardashian was wearing yesterday? That precious nugget of wisdom, they will be sure to have.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/07/20 04:00 PM
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ROFL. I'll have to remember that one. I'm still laughing :-)
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/07/20 02:33 PM
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Dear Reddit: "My girlfriend and I have been dating for years. We're poor college students, thinking about marriage, and I told her I can't afford an engagement ring until we're actually engaged. Indeed, I've never bought any jewelry for any woman, and I'm saving my money until I find my soulmate (who I think this girl is) and we formally get engaged. "Last month I was on a school trip to France. All the rest of my classmates are loose with their money and were taking out French women for expensi…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/07/20 02:22 PM
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You're right, relationships aren't for you. But the reason is because you still seek out precisely those relationships. You seek out the same type of guy, who will provide the same type of emotional drama, make you feel the same anxiety that you love to experience, and ultimately will end in the same way 1 year later. It's your comfort food, and all your therapy ever did for you was absolve you of your responsibility for choosing it (it's not my fault! My daddy didn't hug me enough!) There was a…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/06/20 01:43 PM
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...does that mean you're unavailable? No, it means you're an idiot. If you're single and looking, then by definition, you're available. And if you've been looking for 15+ years and still haven't found anyone, then it's *you*. You might want the unavailable guy for any of a number of reasons: he's hot, rich, tall, etc. Or maybe you get off on guys that don't care about you. Or you like married men. Whatever the reason you like these guys, the first step is to acknowledge *they don't like you*. So…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/06/20 05:48 PM
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I'm curious if you've noticed, is this activity more or less prevalent in the last 5 years? I don't buy women drinks unless we've already been chatting or dancing for a while and it seems like we're both having a good time and want to continue. And what I've noticed is that in the past 5 years, young girls (early/mid twenties) are genuinely surprised and appreciative if you buy them a drink. Almost as if no one in their age range does that anymore. OTOH, I remember when I first started dating, w…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/06/20 05:31 PM
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Conversely, if a woman agrees to a date, there's an assumption that she's at least interested in him. And that assumption is false. Just like a girl can walk off without talking to you after you buy her a drink, a woman can go on a date with the sole intention of getting a free meal, without even a good faith possibility of considering the man a potential romantic partner. And that's the problem. Others have posted links showing how many women go on dates just to get a free dinner. How is that d…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/06/20 05:25 PM
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Holy shit. You're not kidding. I have no beef with any of the LGBTQ folk, but I wonder if transsexuals are a big enough market to warrant a large brand like CK to go after with an expensive prominent billboard. If you really want to cater to that market, wouldn't you create a sub-brand, and focus your advertising on narrow channels that target the market directly? Which means this ad isn't for transsexuals or LGBTQ people, or anyone that is actually supposed to be honored and recognized during P…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/06/20 05:56 AM
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For the last few years, the USA has experienced a decline in life expectancy. It's the first time in our country's history (outside of wartime) that life expectancy is going down. And this despite the increase in health spending, and all of the advances modern medicine continues to make. Experts attribute it to diabetes and obesity swamping every other improvement medicine has made.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/06/20 05:33 AM
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Unfortunately, in a relationship, it's not her eyes she has to please.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/06/20 05:32 AM
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Did you ever see the movie _Just Friends_ with Ryan Reynolds and Amy Smart? Sounds like your story :-) Except for the stupid Hollywood ending they had to add.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/06/20 05:12 PM
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Elizabeth Taylor's last husband before she died was a construction worker with a mullet. Sharon Stone has a profile on Bumble (it was posted in this forum maybe a year ago, because it was reported to Bumble as a fake and Bumble took it down before Stone herself confirmed it. No one could believe she was now trying to find dates on OLD). Charlize Theron is not much older than her (mid-40s, I think) and she's publicly said she's single and can't find a guy. My point is, even insanely hot women fac…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/06/20 04:42 PM
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That dude needs to be careful. He's about to get #metoo'd Aziz Ansari-style.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/06/20 06:12 PM
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I wonder if this article is secretly satire. Every single one of those reasons is valid. It's just that they shouldn't be celebrated as positives. They could keep the same exact reasons and title it "16 reasons the Worst Women often stay single the longest" and it would still ring true. Talk about turning vice into virtue. YOU DESERVE AN AMAZING GUY. Translation: you're insanely picky, and offer nothing in return. YOU LIKE DOING WHAT YOU WANT, WHEN YOU WANT. Translation: you're insufferable in a…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/06/20 06:01 PM
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I guess I'm dense: is she addressing actual 23 year olds, or 35-50 year olds who want to pretend they're 23? Either one is delusional. To actual 23 year olds, yes your whole life is ahead of you, and if you don't want to spend that entire life alone, you need to find someone, and this is the best time to do it. Why TF do feminists assume that finding a guy means forgoing education and travel? Plenty of guys put their girlfriends / wives through school, and nothing keeps a couple from traveling a…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/06/20 05:17 PM
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This is a great example of how extreme the you go gurl! rah-rah cheerleading part of feminism has gone. I'm all for trying to reduce body shaming for that small group of women who are normal weight but view themselves as fat, and do unhealthy things like develop eating disorders as a result. But it's gotten to the point that women can never be told their genuine flaws. Is it any wonder that they all think they're so great? Here are a few points: A size 12 (going by American dress sizes) almost c…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/06/20 07:59 AM
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You could do a dissertation on how wrong every one of her points are, but I'll just do the first one: I’VE LET GO OF MY “TYPE” AND I’M OPEN TO ANYTHING. Wrong sweetcheeks. Your "type" let go of you, forcing you to consider anything at this point. And you hate those "anything" men for not being your type, for "forcing" you to settle for them, and they know it, which is why they avoid you. I used to be stupidly picky and I had a list a mile long of what kind of guy I would and wouldn’t date — stra…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/06/20 02:14 AM
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Haha. That's a great response!
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/06/20 01:51 PM
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Yeah, I'm realizing my analogy of a war is not accurate. I don't think feminism has been great *for women* nor for men. As I mentioned, surveys show women, the supposed beneficiaries of all these changes, are less happy than they were before. And regarding men, you're right in the literal sense: I'm not in any grand coalition of men. I care about myself, my family, friends, people around me, and that's the extent of my sympathy and my influence. This was more just a question trying to take the g…
/r/WhereAllTheGoodMenAre16/06/20 06:36 PM
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It's always instructive to read these by adding "this time" to the end of each of her demands: "If you ain't got a job (this time)" "If you ain't got your own place (this time)" ... "I'm not stuck up but I'm done raising grown men (this time)" Doing so is like getting an archaeological record of her dating history. Trust me, if she's a single mother, she violated every single one of those rules for one guy or another in her past who pumped and dumped her. More importantly, she'll do it again if …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen14/06/20 02:40 PM
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Guy lies about wanting something casual- Bad. Girl lies about being a prostitute- "Don't Judge Me!" "My past is private!" "You need to man up and not be intimidated!"
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen14/06/20 02:33 PM
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It's not that hard to pick up the clues though. The biggest one is, their lifestyle is out of range of their financial means. One of the first questions people ask each other is "what do you do?" When a girl is cagey about that, you know she doesn't have a real job. That in itself may not be a dealbreaker (particularly at 24) -- although it probably should be. But if she's living in a gentrifying hipsterish area, there's no way she can afford that without a stable job, or rich parents. If she do…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen14/06/20 02:21 PM
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Personally, I feel like the war is being lost for both men and women. This is what feminism doesn't get: just because I might be fine legalizing drugs doesn't mean I think taking drugs is good for your health. In the same way, if women find a way to sell their used panties for thousands of dollars online, so be it. But don't celebrate it as if it's a good, healthy behavior. The fact is, these battles that women "win" are actually losses for both genders. The fact that tons of men think spending …
/r/WhereAllTheGoodMenAre13/06/20 09:09 PM
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That's good advice, and personally, I do feel that I'm winning. Haven't gotten everything I want just yet, but I'm definitely on the right path (I feel) to getting there. I'm even grateful for the hard lessons I learned in my youth that gave me some of the wisdom I have now. Truth be told, what shocked me into writing this (I've been thinking about it for a long time) wasn't e-thots getting money. That form of soft prostitution has been there since the dawn of time, and it's not surprising that …
/r/WhereAllTheGoodMenAre13/06/20 04:33 PM
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That's a good point. This information was usually passed down by older men to younger men. But with the rise of single mothers, the destruction of male-only social spaces, and political correctness restricting what you can say even to your own son / nephew, guys now have to seek it from disreputable sources like this forum :-)
/r/WhereAllTheGoodMenAre13/06/20 04:20 PM
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I'll grant you that women are going down this rabbit hole and show no signs of stopping and turning around. I guess my question is, are men learning to adapt fast enough to counteract that and still get what they want? If more guys are finding happiness by finding a wife abroad, then more power to them. I'd still consider that winning if the guy finds happiness. My concern is that despite the rapid dissemination of redpill / blackpill / etc. it's not disseminating nearly fast enough to counterac…
/r/WhereAllTheGoodMenAre13/06/20 04:16 PM
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That's true, and I generally agree with that. But even with the passage of time, fewer men seem to finally get what they want. One the one hand, there are 18 year olds who are redpilled and even blackpilled before they've even had much experience in dating, which, IMHO is a good thing. Better to learn early than spend 20 years figuring it out. But there are increasing numbers of incels into the 30s and 40s. Many of them do have decent jobs, are reasonable people, and yet are desperately alone, u…
/r/WhereAllTheGoodMenAre13/06/20 04:12 PM
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You know what? I'll even give her everything she says about herself. Maybe she is fit, attractive, with a great personality. But even if that's all true, she's 32, and the tables turn brutally around 30. She's looking for high value guys in their mid to late 30s. The kind that used to hit on her when she was in her 20s. Guess what? Those guys are still hitting on 25 year olds. Even if they entertain a 32 year old who's somehow able to compete with those younger girls in attractiveness, she's sti…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen13/06/20 01:34 AM
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This has happened even within the domestic realm. In previous decades, men didn't cook or clean, and we always felt we needed a woman to "keep a home and hearth" for us. They now refuse to do it, calling it oppressive, so men had to figure out how to cook, clean, and keep a decent house going. And guess what, we find it's not so hard. All that bellyaching about domestic stuff? Most of us find it almost relaxing compared to the stresses and demands of our jobs. And we've become better at it than …
/r/WhereAllTheGoodMenAre12/06/20 03:44 AM
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At first I thought her comma delimited list was describing her attributes, but of course, she just has her list of "ingredients" for the man she wants. Me too! I was already thinking "Hm, she doesn't sound so bad. Sure, her best days are behind her but at least she seems to have a decent personality". Shame on me for still having some hope about the female gender...
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen11/06/20 11:25 PM
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She's bisexual, why doesn't she ask one of those strong, independent women to be with her? Plenty of white ones if that's what she likes. Oh yeah, because every girl is a feminist until the check is placed on the table. All of a sudden, they're looking for the nearest patriarch to pay their tab.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen11/06/20 11:22 PM
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"21, not 26" - this means she created the tinder account when FIVE FUCKING YEARS UNDERAGE. I have a different theory. She's looking for an older guy to bail her out. Lots of guys in the mid-thirties and above set their age filter to >25 if they're looking for a real relationship, to filter out the immature, still-teenagerish girls. Those are the guys she's looking for, so she deliberately sets her age to be 26 to evade their age filters. It's the reverse of 35 year olds setting their age to 29 a…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen11/06/20 11:15 PM
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Ironically, the guys that have the most "stylish" houses (as judged by women) tend to be players and fuckbois, because they value having a continuous stream of women coming through that they're willing to invest the time and money to make a house seem "inviting" to a woman. That's the reason the term bachelor pad exists. It refers to an expensive, stylish, place owned by a bachelor and used exclusively for fucking a parade of women. In my younger days I was housemates with one of those guys. Eve…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen11/06/20 11:08 PM
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These women are learning the hard way that prostitution may be the world's oldest profession, but it's still a profession. There's still a certain amount of skill you need to convince a man to pay you for sexual release. Just because you're unemployed and can't go out of the house to scam drinks and dinners from unsuspecting tinder matches doesn't mean it's easy being a camwhore instead. Most men paying for a sex worker's time are looking to buy intimacy, a sense that a woman cares about them --…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/05/20 04:09 AM
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She's closer to the truth than she thinks. By "prized cars" I'm assuming she means expensive exotics like Ferraris and Lambos. But guys who buy those cars? It's never their only car. Because they're usually in the shop half the time, get damaged by a simple pothole on the road, and you can only rev the engine on rare days when there's no traffic. Most of them have a much more modest daily driver that's prized for things like reliability, fuel efficiency, safety, along with reasonable looks and b…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/05/20 11:43 PM
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"If you're in a frat or a vegetarian, please swipe left" But maybe that's an exclusive OR (XOR), in which case, vegetarian frat boys, you're in luck!
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/05/20 11:32 PM
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My first reaction to this post is pity and sadness. She is (maybe) finally realizing that she's all alone in this world, will likely be that way for the rest of her days, and it is scaring the beejezus out of her. I can't blame her for trying to find someone, and hers is not the worst post we've seen on this forum. But here's the difference between men and women: It's true that men can be alone in their later years too if they don't take the time to build family / friendships / social networks. …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/05/20 11:25 PM
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"The opposite of love isn't hate. It's apathy." --Elie Wiesel This is why trp and pua recommend hard next'ing a girl: showing a girl how much you now hate her is still showing her passion and drama, which they thrive on. Knowing they can get such a rise out of you makes them feel special. OTOH, they go absolutely bonkers if they see you barely recognizing their existence.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/05/20 10:28 PM
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Great analysis! It's always instructive to see what's *not said* in these types of posts. Here, the glaring, pink mumu-wearing elephant in the room is that, in the end: she doesn't have a man. She can talk all she wants about how much better she's gotten, how "shitty" the guys are, yadda yadda. But it doesn't erase the fact that where once she had guys tripping over themselves to marry her, now the best she can get is guys willing to fuck-and-chuck. Would you take dieting advice from a fat perso…
/r/WhereAllTheGoodMenAre04/05/20 06:51 PM
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That's because you don't get to be intelligent without being curious about the world. Smart people get that way by being interested in and aware of all of the things they don't know, not by sitting and admiring themselves for what they have already mastered. There's a great saying: if you're the smartest person in the room, you should find a different room.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/05/20 01:09 PM
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There is a difference though. Both guys and girls, the first time they have sex with a 10, it boosts their confidence enormously. And both sexes raise their standards, saying "If I could bang a 10 before, I can do it again." And, in truth, it works that way for both sexes. If you managed to attract a hot girl / guy for a night, you could probably do it again. But here's where guys and girls are different: if the confidence goes from "If I could bang a 10 before, I can *bang* a 10 again" to "If I…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/04/20 06:02 PM
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She's 31, and on online dating, that means she's no longer even seen by the guys who've set their age filters to be <30. She doesn't realize this. She just wonders why the hot guys who she *would* have a fling with are no longer messaging her. Because she refuses to acknowledge that it's because she's aged out of their target range, she hamsters herself into thinking it's because *she's* matured out of that phase, not because those guys no longer want her.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/03/20 05:04 AM
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Preach. I'm South Asian and I saw this all the time. I don't care what race you date, but why do you have to insult your own race to feel better? And just like you, I focused on my career, gaining social skills, and just enjoying my life. And lo and behold, they're all now talking about how important their "traditions" are. GTFO. And I actually find it a lot easier to date white (and other non-south asians) women, mainly because I'm exotic to them, and they don't have any hangups about their own…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/03/20 04:58 AM
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Now I'm curious... for people with experience on POF and tinder, what the hell do you have to do to get banned???
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen16/02/20 12:24 AM
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Yep. Women are being hoist on their own petard. They love OLD because they can swipe through hundreds of matches and dismiss guys on the most superficial criteria ("Oh, he's only 5'11 1/2"; "his hair is a little thin on top") but then when guys do it to them, they're floored. In real life, if you met a girl a few years older than your target range but she seemed like a great girl, you'd overlook the extra couple years. But OLD entices people to make soft preferences into hard dealbreakers. Thank…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen16/02/20 12:21 AM
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Eh, that's a shit test if I ever saw one. What woman doesn't want to hear that she has nice boobs? Even the ones that hide them under thick sweatshirts and tight sportsbras love hearing it from guys that they're attracted to, which is the key point here. I would literally text her "nice boobs ;-)". If she looks at my pictures and is attracted to me, she'll realize I'm playing with her and she'll take it as cheeky flirtation. If she's not interested, she'll unmatch me. Either way, it's an easy 5 …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen15/02/20 04:49 AM
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You know, I'll give her credit for doing actual work on herself. If she actually lost weight, learned new hobbies, got a good job, etc. that's real improvement. Most women who say they "work on themselves" mean they cry to their enabler girlfriends about how all men are pigs, then watch stupid romcom reruns while downing buckets of ice cream. But that's the only positive thing in this whole piece. Her whole "we are not compatible due to various things" is self-justifying BS. If he was truly a ba…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen15/02/20 04:21 AM
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Yep. It doesn't even have to be different girls or different times. I remember once I went swing dancing on a blind double date (my friend and his girl knew each other, me and her girlfriend were a blind setup) My blind date was cute, but she seemed a little distant, like she wasn't totally interested. So I figured it was going to be a polite but pointless evening. We had also invited a few friends to come out, and one of my female friends (strictly platonic) arrived maybe a half hour in. She an…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen15/02/20 03:59 AM
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Say you own a stock that hit its all time high but you didn't sell. Now it's going down. And you have a crystal ball that tells you with 100% certainty that the stock will continue to decline. Not only will it never exceed its peak, it'll never exceed its price today. What do you do? Any sane person would swallow hard, and sell, sell, sell for whatever they can get before tomorrow comes. In these women's cases, they instead sit there thinking "that's okay. I'm just going to wait. At some point, …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen09/02/20 07:35 AM
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I'm with you on this one. There's a good chance this woman is either actually mentally ill or has been seriously messed up by something in her past. I'm all for chastising women for their entitlement but this almost seems more like a cry for help. I genuinely hope she gets it.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen09/02/20 06:51 AM
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That poor baby looks more shell shocked than a Frenchman crawling out of the trenches of Verdun.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen09/02/20 06:44 AM
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But, but, he was emotionally abusive when he suggested she lose some weight. She DESERVES a man who appreciates how much of a goddess she is.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen09/02/20 06:37 AM
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You're being sarcastic but women really mean it. Every article about how college now has significantly more women than men talks about how this victimizes women because that means there are less "marriageable" men available for these poor women. No one asks the question what is the education system doing to boys that they can't get into college and improve their lives...
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen09/02/20 06:30 AM
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RIP to all the fwb's that stopped having sex with me because I didn't spend money on them / marry them after they gave me their ever so precious pussy. Gone but not forgotten.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen08/02/20 10:42 PM
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Yeah, maybe sometimes this forum goes to the other extreme, but at least in this specific case, the criticism of the original woman is warranted. None of the replies are saying no guy wants her. And neither is the woman. We're saying among the type of guys she's looking for, no one wants her. Which is obviously true, because she's the one making that complaint. You're right that a 30 year old guy of average looks and average income still has a hard time finding a woman. But those are precisely t…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/02/20 09:14 PM
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Silly rabbit, you think college is supposed to be about education. Sigh. It's about finding yourself, dontcha know? And finding yourself requires expensive clothes (to keep up with those bitches at the sorority house aka your sisters that you'll supposedly love forever), living in a massive luxury apartment (better than anything you'll afford once college is done), and taking spring break trips to Paris and Rome and Tokyo where you can "find yourself" in miles of foreign dick. I mean, really, th…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/02/20 08:56 PM
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I think it probably went differently. That guy asked for services in order to lash out and hurt her (entirely justified, btw). Imagine you're a simp who's been pining away for this girl for years, watching her fuck other guys (her boyfriends), waiting for your chance. At least you console yourself with the idea that she's choosing those guys over you because they're hotter, more socially adept, etc even though you love her so much and would treat her like a queen, not like those douchebags. Then…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/02/20 08:45 PM
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Just FYI, I think this one was posted here a few months ago: https://www.reddit.com/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen/comments/crao68/quote_plussized_unquote_model_has_her_dating/
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/01/20 07:59 AM
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That's good that you didn't take her up on the offer. The problem is, I bet plenty of guys, even ones with as many options as you, have probably smashed her when offered the same chance. To guys, any pussy is better than no pussy, especially when it's being handed to you on a platter with no strings attached. And unless you have something waiting at home, plenty of guys figure "why not?" Even in the pre-OLD era, fat girls often had bigger n-counts than hot girls, because lots of guys were willin…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/01/20 07:31 AM
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If only there was an app that allowed us guys to see women's real preferences for height and salary. Then we could "cringe" too at how superficial women are.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/01/20 07:16 AM
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Uh, you think she's taking those 2 weeks unpaid?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/01/20 06:41 PM
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If you happen to find the article, please post it in this sub! Would love to read it :-)
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/01/20 02:47 PM
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I won't even give women that much credit. Projection implies a subconscious process that they can't control. I'd argue that it's more malicious gaslighting. Even the most deluded woman out there understands that what guys truly desire from them is sex (and then, maybe, perhaps, a relationship). No mother tells her daughter "Be careful of boys when you go out there. Some of them may want to marry you!" Regardless of whether women value *themselves* for their ability to be a good LTR (I'd argue no…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/01/20 02:41 PM
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I'm surprised the first few upvoted comments are all supportive of the guy. And then I got to this part: ​ [Comment] do men think women are retarded and can't tell [Reply] Since it seems to be pretty easy for abusive men to manipulate women, I bet this strategy would work out just fine only with the downside that more women will be sad. [OP Reply] betas should never compare themselves to the masculine genius of abusive men, they lack the x factr This replier also said this about abusive men: Oka…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/01/20 02:14 PM
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While she's waiting, she'll be fucking plenty of Chads, but you know, those don't count when you eventually ask her for her n-count, since they were just diversions while she was waiting for you. Which means 9-12 months from now, she'll be updating her profile to say she has one daughter and is expecting a second child... And if you ask her why, she'll blame the world. What was she supposed to do while she was sitting around waiting for the world to deliver this gentleman she deserves? Not open …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/01/20 01:40 PM
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I don't care how long it takes me to be on Tinder to find a gentleman...I'll be a single mom until I can find that one man. This is a great demonstration of female entitlement. In her mind, if she hasn't found a gentleman, it's simply because the world hasn't given her one yet, and she's going to hold her breath and stomp her feet until one appears. She never even entertains a single thought of "I'm done fucking bad boys. I want a gentleman. But maybe I should figure out what a gentleman wants, …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/01/20 01:35 PM
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Good advice. I hope the OP takes it :-) I would add a point #3: you are in bigger danger than you realize. When they're friendly to you at work but not so friendly when it comes to snapchat/etc that means they view you as a work friend, but not someone they're interested in a personal or romantic relationship outside of work. You can easily be #metoo'ed, when they claim that they were just being friendly at work and you "pressured" them into giving you their number/IG/whatever. In truth, it's ha…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/01/20 12:06 AM
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She's doing you a favor. She could easily string you along, get you to pay for a few dinners, then ghost you. Read /u/Aldabruzzo's comment above about what a woman who is actually sexually attracted to you behaves like. That's the response you want. If you're not getting it then either choose different women, or make yourself more attractive. If you figure that's too much work and want to MGTOW, that's fine too. It's totally your choice. But the worst option is to waste a bunch of time on women …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/01/20 12:00 AM
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It won't help. In fact, it'll be the opposite. Men never cared about a woman's degree. So when college was 99% guys, they had no trouble finding dates because women thought any dude with a college degree was a catch. But now, if a woman has a BA, they only want to date guys with a masters or higher. IOW, their standards will get higher, even as the available number of men who meet their criteria shrink. That guy with a BA is no longer adequate. They *deserve* that PhD or JD. The don't care what …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/01/20 11:34 PM
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They'll share. They'd rather have half a Chad than have all of one "loser". Even now, most women know that not all women can end up with a 6-foot tall millionaire. But watch what they do: they'd rather be a side bitch to that millionaire than be a wife to anyone less. This is basically what's happening now. Rich and powerful guys have multiple wives *right now*. Sure, only the third one is legally married to him and the first 2 are legally divorced. But they all live in houses he paid for, get m…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/01/20 11:24 PM
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"Why wouldn't you want to marry a hoe?" Because there's more to a stable marriage than great sex? As they might say in logic class, great sex is a necessary but not sufficient condition for a great marriage. (Also, I've never had sex with pornstars but I've heard they're actually quite bad at it. Not only do they usually come home not in the mood since they've been banging for hours on set, the sex they engage in on camera is directed by a director, and is designed to look good on camera, not ac…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/01/20 11:06 PM
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I'll defer to you. My formal French is pretty rusty, and my conversational French is even worse :-)
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen16/01/20 05:02 AM
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Thanks for posting this. Putting yourself out there, even anonymously, is not easy. I'll give you a different perspective, my story. It's not any more valid than yours or anything, of course, but it's always good to hear more stories. I started as a blue pilled simp. I had all the classic symptoms, including crushing hard on a girl in high school for several years, being a nerd, shy, gangly, not that socially aware, etc. I never really knew anything else (I'm in my 40s, so high school in the 90s…
/r/WhereAllTheGoodMenAre16/01/20 04:52 AM
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You're giving them too much credit in assuming they wise up after the first pregnancy. Don't look at what she writes. Look at what she does. I guarantee if Chad invited her right now to come over and fuck, she'd happily trundle her pregnant ass to his place, rawdog him, and then leave happy when Chad throws her out of bed at 3am without taxi money. I also bet that even pre-pregnancy she had some winsome profile about finding her soul mate, no hookups, must be a good guy, etc etc., While posting …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen16/01/20 02:11 AM
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"I am the girl 4 u!" Honey, every girl in the world is the girl for a guy like this. Heck, most girls are content to share a guy like this (become one of 5 plates). And you want him all for yourself. What makes you better than the 3 billion other girls scratching each other's eyes out to land a guy like this? "I don’t work but I have a lot of great business ideas" Everyone who has ever actually started a business feels like tearing their hair out when they hear someone (who 100% has never starte…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen16/01/20 01:43 AM
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Can't figure out what she's pointing to: A) a herpes sore B) "insert dick here" C) this mouth will never close D) all of the above
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen16/01/20 01:26 AM
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The translator is being kind. If my rusty french is correct, she says "looking for my perfect man". You are not allowed one single fault. The list of criteria she has is only a quick summary and is not meant to be exhaustive. Also, she says recherche, not cherche. Recherche means "to look for again" ie for something you once had and lost (or at least once tried to look for in the past) vs cherche which means "to look for". IOW she's been alpha widowed by the perfect man in her past, and she's lo…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen16/01/20 01:21 AM
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The 7 stages of a woman on bumble: 1) Pre-signup. "Ugh, all these gross guys keep sending me messages after we match. Don't they know I just matched them to boost my ego? Do they really think they have a chance with me? Stupid boys. And their messages are so unimaginative, so gross, asking to meet up for dinner and all." 2) Signup. "Bumble is great! Those gross guys can't message me anymore. I'm in control. Why should guys get to make the opening move? Why *shouldn't* women message first and con…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen14/01/20 05:39 PM
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. FetLife is a dating site for people into some weird fetishes: cross dressing, Domme/sub, humiliation, feet, SSBBWs, and whatnot. So is she saying that even after she finds her soulmate, she expects to be able to continue to find guys on fetlife to fuck on the side?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen14/01/20 05:11 PM
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If you did the time, you've paid your debt to society and are now "rehabilitated". So why should those crimes in your past be pertinent? If the past is the past, doesn't reflect who I am today, yadda yadda yadda, then yeah, let's apply that to *everything* in everyone's past, not just selectively what you wish to hide while still reserving the right to pass judgement on someone's past history you deem important.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/01/20 08:59 AM
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2 words: child support.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/01/20 08:51 AM
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She lives in Norway, one of those socialist states where she gets a roof over her head, food, education, health care, everything she needs even if she doesn't work. IOW, nothing forced her to become an escort. She chose it rather than working hard and having a career in a legitimate field. so she can face the consequences. I have pity for young girls in poor or war-torn areas where there are no opportunities besides prostitution if you want to keep from starving. But someone like this, offered a…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/01/20 03:17 AM
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That's okay. Being "Christian" means never having to say you're sorry since Jesus forgives all :-) I mean, you can commit the most vile, heinous acts of blasphemy Mon-Sat. As long as you go to church for 1 hour on Sun, you're as pure as the virgin Mary and good to go for another week of sinning.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/01/20 10:42 PM
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I wonder if part of it is that women stop playing team sports after about high school? Sure, girls' soccer / softball / volleyball is a thing while growing up, but guys tend to keep playing things like pickup games of basketball, or throw a football around on weekends, etc. That is, games where coordination, reflexes, etc. are important. Even recreational playing continues to hone your skills like that. In contrast, I'd say women's exercise tends to more physical fitness focused e.g. cardio, yog…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/01/20 10:23 PM
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If you're a woman, kudos to you for braving the sometimes hostile waters of WAATGM :-) That said, I have to disagree with you. I understand what you're saying, that the legions of "bad women" make guys suspicious of every woman, so how is a good woman supposed to convince a guy that she's good? The problem with your thesis is that, once again you're only looking at the top 20% of guys. the top 5% are desirable enough (either looks, money, charm, etc.) that they can get desirable women to sleep w…
/r/WhereAllTheGoodMenAre04/01/20 12:38 AM
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This is great stuff. I'd argue it's more than 25%, because that assumes every college graduate man will marry a college graduate woman. Plenty of guys with college degrees marry down, while very few women do (willingly, at least). However, this may be compensated by another factor: successful men with college degrees will be in so much demand many will essentially have two wives: a starter wife his own age, with whom he might even have a few kids, and a mid-life wife, 10-20 years younger, whom h…
/r/WhereAllTheGoodMenAre03/01/20 11:44 PM
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Let me guess. She never had to ask any of those 5 guys out. Merely had to say "yes". Meanwhile, the girl she wants, she needs to approach, and it's causing her to be nauseous with anxiety. What are the chances this experience causes her to empathize with guys who have to initiate contact *every fucking time*?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/01/20 10:32 PM
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Holy shit. This is an instance where the "expert" is more batshit crazy than the person asking for advice. The advice seeker is slowly starting to realize the truth: she no longer has power in the RMP and even in the SMP, and now has to abide by the wishes of the men she seeks to date, not the other way around. Even if it's waay too late for her to turn things around (as she wants to do), at least it's better late than never. Her anger at this situation could even be excused as a natural human r…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/01/20 02:54 AM
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This guy is only halfway there. I actually agree you don't have to be a jerk (meaning actively harassing or being mean) to attract women. But treating a women as an equal is *still* putting them on a pedestal (albeit a lower one than what nice guys do). Because they're not equal to a guy. And they don't want to be. Do you think women like changing their own tires? Being the one to get up in the middle of the night when they hear a strange sound? And ironically, they're still not that attracted t…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/12/19 04:30 AM
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Agreed. Her superpower wasn't those things. If she was at a decent news outfit, plenty of people are tough, driven, smart, etc. That's not rare. What's rare is that she was young and hot. I'm not saying that was her only redeeming trait, but that undoubtedly gave her a boost, one she would never acknowledge, even when she felt its effects disappear. Now, she has to compete like a man for the plum assignments, and all of a sudden, she doesn't want to do it any more... This is the thing about all …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/12/19 10:19 PM
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I don't begrudge her finding happiness, and hopefully Charlie is happy as well. But there are still areas of her life story where she should have realized what she was doing wrong. IMHO, the biggest, and what comes out loud and clear, was that she was selfish: selfish with her time, her energy, and her emotions. When she says: In my experience, men — especially professional men — needed so much hand-holding from women, so much boosting up. What she's saying is that she didn't want to invest any …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/12/19 10:01 PM
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Why they do this is beyond me. Because they think that showing how they're on women's "side" will gain their approval. "Haha, look at those loser nice guys! I'm not like them, indeed, I agree with you wholeheartedly that they're not men. Now fuck me, please, pretty please??" They still don't realize that at best, that gets a girl to treat them like a pet, throwing them a biscuit once in a while while cooing "Who's a good boy!" At worst, women look at them as pussies and unworthy of loving since …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/12/19 09:42 PM
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*sigh*. You'll have to come up with another insult besides incel if you want me to take your criticism seriously. WTF does "incel tendencies" mean anyway? Regardless, nowhere in this post did I make mention of my own sex life so my best guess is you're using the term as a generic insult when you read something you don't like. Leave it to someone with thousand-cock-stare tendencies (two can play at this game) to misread my entire example. If you want to stay single go for it. I could care less wh…
/r/WhereAllTheGoodMenAre17/12/19 01:06 PM
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She will fail at her new life goal of finding a "respectful" partner. Why? Because it's clear she never examined the reasons why she chose the assholes in the first place. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me. Fool me 40 times...yeah, it's you not them. Let's take her at face value. Great, she wants a new man now. But she hasn't asked herself "why am I attracted to assholes? What about them drove me to seek them out over and over?" Without knowing the answer to that, she can't …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/12/19 12:53 PM
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> Btw I'd bet that non of them is the father She'll convince them that when 4 guys inseminate a woman, it's natural for the baby to come out black...
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen08/12/19 02:36 AM
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That's a good point too. If a man wants more drama in his life, he'll change himself (go do more exciting stuff). If a woman wants more drama in her life, she just demands that her environment change to provide her with it.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/11/19 07:47 PM
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You don't understand. Fucking black guys and felons (and letting them do the most vile things to her body) was *how* she fought against racism and classism (respectively). The personal is the political, and the world has totally become a utopia thanks to her sexual "fight", dontcha know? It's like that Mattress Girl from Columbia who figures the best way to fight against sexual assault is to make an "art exhibit" where she's naked, tied and hung from a ceiling beam while being whipped and insult…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/11/19 07:39 PM
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The part that gets me with this one is how she's so tired from a "tough life fighting oppression and authority". 10/10 that "tough life" she refers to was having consciousness-raising kumbaya sessions with her fellow Earth Mother Goddesses, maybe attending a few "demonstrations" where she got to make cute signs and yell without any risk of getting shot by the cops, and perhaps penning a few angry screeds on some woman's blog. IOW, nothing that would actually change society. Here's a hint sweethe…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/11/19 07:33 PM
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Agreed. It's well established in psychology profiles. It's the rush of the extremes that keeps women coming back for more. But I wonder: why do men not get the same rush? And I think the answer is this: we know the consequences. Women who keep going back to their abusive spouses do it because they don't actually realize the risk of getting killed. They think "yeah, he might give me a black eye here or there, but he'd never actually *kill* me". Because women have largely been protected from physi…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/11/19 07:19 PM
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This is exactly it. It's not that balancing a checkbook is difficult. It's that women know (or think they know) they always have an easy way out. They joke about keeping their beta orbiters around and, if they're still single at 40, just marrying one of them. Their long-term planning isn't about winning financial prizes themselves, it's about securing a man who already has those financial prizes. Men, on the other hand, know that there is no plan B for them. We either secure our own financial fu…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/11/19 07:05 PM
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Option 3: (if you're still reasonably hot) find a rich guy who wants to brag about being married to "an actress" and marry him and become a trophy wife.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/11/19 06:41 PM
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That makes sense. She's a rich kid who wants an equivalently rich guy (and probably good-looking, tall, etc, etc) to marry her. Unfortunately for her, those rich guys have tons of options. Perhaps when she was in her early 20s, if she took care of her appearance, had a great personality, etc., she could find one of those rich sought-after guys to commit to her. But she didn't. Either she was too busy "finding herself" in miles of unsuitable-to-marry cock, or she's such an otherwise ugly person (…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/11/19 08:10 PM
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Agreed. Just reading the first few sentences, before getting to the bf's reaction, I was already thinking "how rude". FWIW, I speak multiple languages and when I'm on trips with friends or a girl, I'll use a foreign language when it's needed, but I'll always translate what the person said so that everyone can join the conversation. Yeah, that means you end up serving as a translator, but it's still more fun and polite to your friends than carrying on a private conversation while everyone else ju…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen08/11/19 05:46 PM
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Here's something I'm sure will shock you: I've never used OLD (so far :-). So I can't say with certainty. But I don't think they're all that different. Each claims some unique angle to one or more of those lies, but I think they're all premised on the same principles. For example, Bumble claims their "woman approach first" strategy lets women filter out the undesirables better. Maybe so, but they never mention why Bumble doesn't prevent those guys from matching with you in the first place. IOW, …
/r/WhereAllTheGoodMenAre08/11/19 03:01 PM
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You have a great idea for a dating app. The problem is dating apps aren't in the business of pairing people off. Once you get married, you're no longer a user, paying their monthly fee. Furthermore, no one is successful with a product that tells you hard truths you don't wish to hear. That's not how marketing works. Tinder does not want you to get married. It wants you to keep coming back and swiping. It does this by fostering two illusions: that no matter how great your current partner is, a be…
/r/WhereAllTheGoodMenAre26/10/19 02:23 AM
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All of you guys who refuse to believe this is real don't get it. This is the way these women think! From my own history: a girl I spent months trying to convince to go out with me (long story, quite painful, but anyway :-). She kept saying no and when she finally gave me the kiss of death ("I don't want to risk ruining our great friendship"). I finally realized it wasn't happening. So I told her I'd respect her decision and not ask again. She seemed happy and we ended it on a good note. Literall…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/10/19 10:10 PM
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Yep. "The opposite of love isn't hate. It's apathy". --Elie Wiesel
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/10/19 09:49 PM
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Let's start a virtual contest for best 20/20 hindsight comeback for rombios! My entry "Sounds like I read the situation exactly right." Winner of the contest gets a date with one of the lovelies posted on this forum :-)
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/10/19 09:41 PM
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Generally true. But talking to a girl about other girls you're thinking of dating is a great way of making them fume. So do it for the schadenfreude, but I agree, never do it for actual advice. Incidentally, I've found the best schadenfreude comes from moving onto another girl quickly, and *not* talking about her to your female "friend", even when she wants to. Her hamster will twist itself into a knot wondering how happy and exciting your life must now be, than you could ever get across yoursel…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/10/19 09:28 PM
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If you're not her boyfriend, you're her girlfriend.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/10/19 09:08 PM
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I think there's a huge range of behaviors that fall within this friendzone discussion, and as usual, most of the commentators in that original post are trying to make it black and white. It's true there are clueless guys who never take a hint and keep pursuing even after the girl has made it clear she's not interested. It's also true that there are manipulative women who collect orbiters, doling out just enough ambiguity and encouragement to keep otherwise sane guys guessing and confused and thi…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/10/19 09:06 PM
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Here was why I thought this might be appropriate for this forum. It might be fun to focus on how pathetic the guy was, but this woman is prime WAATGM material in a few years. When an attractive woman is in her prime, she has two options: she can exploit her looks (which were largely genetic and didn't require much work to obtain) for short term, easy gain for very little work. Or, she can do the hard work of building on those looks and adding personality, intelligence, etc. After choosing one of…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/09/19 09:37 PM
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Already being done. It's called chaturbate, and they make more revenue than twitch.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/09/19 08:47 PM
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Thanks for allowing it good sir! I was hedging on whether the post was appropriate but I thought I'd put it out and see what people thought. Might have been more appropriate as a weekend post. I'll try to stay more on topic next time :-)
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/09/19 08:45 PM
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I would argue that NYC is *not* the toughest market for women. It's actually one of the best. Because nowhere else in the world (except maybe London) is there such a high concentration of rich, ambitious men. Yes, it's hard to attract one of them, because they have so many options (including flying to other cities and countries and meeting girls there). But at least you have a shot at it. The toughest markets for women are small rural towns where the only men left are opiate addicts, or collecti…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/09/19 03:05 AM
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What's interesting is what she is labeling as deal breakers. I'd actually respect her if she labeled them with things like "not kind", "unstable", "drug addict", etc. Because, yeah, there are a ton of guys out there that are shitty guys and aren't relationship material. Instead, it seems that her dealbreakers are stupid stuff like "doesn't like memes". Really? So if there's a great guy who's kind and loves you, you'll call it off because he laughs at different jokes than you? This is the problem…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen13/09/19 04:33 PM
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You're assuming they have friends, or family that doesn't hate their guts. Do you think this type of exploitative behavior doesn't spill over to *all* her interactions?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen13/09/19 03:54 PM
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Yeah. Women never understood that the opportunity to stay at home and take care of the kids was a *privilege*, not oppression. For most of history, the man, woman, and even kids, had to work their ass off every day from sunrise to sunset just to have enough food to eat. Do you think women in medieval times stayed at home? Yeah right. They were out doing backbreaking manual labor with everyone else. Even grandparents had to work until they keeled over one day and died. As society got richer and w…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/09/19 01:39 AM
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"That's patriarchical oppression, that's rape, why should I?, and what other skill do I have?". Questions answered. When are you taking her out to dinner? :-)
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/09/19 01:18 AM
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To the OP: imagine you're in love with a guy who only sees fit to pump-n-dump you. Not only that, but as he calls you every night at 2am for a booty call then kicks you out of bed, he goes on actual dates with other women, taking them out to dinner, buying them gifts, listening to their troubles. Meanwhile, anytime you attempt to talk to him about anything besides the next sexual position you're willing to try, he shuts you down saying "Babe, I don't want to risk our amazing sexual chemistry by …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen11/09/19 07:33 AM
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Sounds like we're in agreement then :) I just wanted to clarify that both lesbian and heterosexual women (and everyone else on this planet, for that matter) put on performances, they're just aimed at different targets.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/08/19 06:51 PM
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There are a ton of good guys to start with. In high school nice guys easily outnumber douche bags. But after years of being shrieked at and made fun of for being nice guys all the while watching their crushes giving it up for the bad boys, those nice guys either learn to become bad guys, or accept that they'll die alone and go mgtow. Good guys are dead. And women, you killed them.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/08/19 06:46 PM
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As for lesbians being ugly, I don't think they don't care. The performance of things that raise a woman's attractiveness to a man is part of being a straight woman. Lesbians are considered ugly not because they have bad hygiene or are less attractive than straight women at a base level without any "additions". They're considered ugly Because they don't do those extra things that men like. Like long hair and plastic surgery and make up, shaving etc. But they *do* do things to make themselves more…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/08/19 01:01 AM
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Oh man, I love former college volleyball players. I once knew a 6ft-tall one with the most perfect ass and thighs :-) The problem with them, though, is, just like most college athletes, once they stop playing 4 hours a day, unless they drastically reduce their calorie intake, they get fat really quick. Just like college football players who pack on pounds when they stop playing. But I agree, I never liked the gangly, stick-thin tall ones. Looked too much like guys.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/08/19 08:05 AM
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To all the red flags that other commentators have already spotted, I'll add this: she "frequently still get[s] carded". IOW, at 32, with a kid at home, she still spends many evenings at establishments that check ID, i.e. bars and clubs (unless she's buying wine at the grocery store "frequently"). She's looking for either rich guys in her "professional setting" who won't touch her thanks to #metoo, or hot guys at the bar / club. The type of guys who would give her lots of attention when she was a…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/08/19 07:54 AM
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The reward? A few hundred bucks, i.e. the price for a hooker. And unlike this girl, you can read honest reviews of the hooker's skills written by other guys and decide which one to go with. The risk? Having her burn your house down or stab your dog. Verdict: very high risk, very low reward.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/08/19 01:54 AM
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Wow, the amount of rationalizations here is incredible. Let's see: 1) Being selfless: I know several people who are truly selfless, meaning they spend their time volunteering doing backbreaking, thankless tasks for others, donating to charities, etc. None of them describe themselves as selfless. They just think of it as being a normal human being. If pressed, they'll accept being called compassionate but even that makes them squirm. They hate drawing attention to their good deeds. You know who c…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/08/19 01:31 AM
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Entourage. And you're right. It's instructive to look at the main characters in each one of them. The guys in entourage are great friends, have very little drama, and spend their days banging random hot chicks. The only guy with a real career is Vince, but no one cares. Even turtle is happy just being Vince's driver and smoking weed all day. It's stunningly different than sex and the city where the women, despite having everything they want (money, sex, friends, and a great rent controlled apart…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/07/19 02:09 AM
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Winner winner chicken dinner! I've been invited to these girlfriend meetups, and even if individually the girls may be okay, when they get together, it's like they all regress to a primordial state of cuntiness. I've heard the "come out with me and my girlfriends! They all love you and want to hang out!" bullshit too many times before. It means you will be expected to a) buy them all drinks b) protect them from "creepy" guys trying to hit on them c) listen to them bash guys all night long (both …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/07/19 07:03 AM
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You're just assuming they're white? Not very woke of you...
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/07/19 06:37 AM
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It sounds like you're making good progress and that you're on the right road. Good on you! A few more of my observations: I'm not Brad Pitt-level good-looking. I'm 6ft and I'd say at best, above-average looks. It's quite rare that women give me "The Look" just from my appearance (happens once in a while, and I'm tickled when it does, but it's rare). I'd say the vast majority of interest comes because of the palpable energy my friends and I put out when we're enjoying ourselves. Second, the most …
/r/WhereAllTheGoodMenAre21/07/19 05:49 PM
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Hope she doesn't go trawling the dating sites for her Twin Soul, or she'll find out TS means an entirely different thing in most online personal ads (transsexual, unless maybe that's what her Twin Soul actually is?)
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/07/19 04:03 AM
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Silly rabbit. She already *knows* what her "Twin Soul" looks like, how tall he his, what he does, what his hair should be like, how much money he makes, what brand clothing he wears, the size of his dick, and about 100 other characteristics, none of which involve manure spreading or Nebraska. So of course she'll love her Twin Soul. If the world doesn't deliver this TS to her on a silver platter, ready to bend a knee and wife her up the moment he lays eyes on her, then it's the world's damn fault…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/07/19 04:01 AM
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They are very misleading. Pie charts are useful graphs *if* the total for each "pie" is approximately equivalent. Otherwise, they're highly misleading, which is the case here. Basically, they're trying to put a positive spin on the fact that older women get fewer likes, by saying that "you may get fewer likes, but at least you know that most of those likes are because of your personality, and not because of your fertility!" What they don't say is that, actually, both the younger and the older wo…
/r/WhereAllTheGoodMenAre21/07/19 03:50 AM
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That's great to hear. I'll just add 2 cents of advice (probably worth just about 2 cents :-) I went from PUA stuff to TRP and I'd say the biggest distinction is this: PUA focuses on hoodwinking a girl into thinking you're a high value male. TRP focuses on actually being that high value male. There's some utility to PUA techniques because even if you're a high value male, if you have no idea how to approach someone, they'll never know it, and so you'll fail. But I'd say spend more time actually b…
/r/WhereAllTheGoodMenAre20/07/19 02:43 PM
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Wow. She's finally getting a slight taste of what reality might be like (women her age rapidly decline in desirability) and her main response is to ask how to slam the door before the truth gets in! On the one hand, her SJW training has told her that everyone should do what they want, there should be no restrictions / social norms / peer pressure / shaming / etc. But then, when they use that freedom to do things that she disagrees with, or that directly impact her romantic prospects, she starts …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/07/19 01:50 AM
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There is one silver lining in that comment section, which is that most of the posters agreed that they were incompatible and the OP should end the relationship. At least that much we agree on. But this whole notion of "she didn't want to do these things before. She was forced to" discounts that everything happens on a spectrum. On one end of the spectrum is rape / sexual assault, where a guy physically forces a woman to do something she actively doesn't want to do. On the other end of the spectr…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/07/19 01:36 AM
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Will do. Thanks for the instructions!
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/07/19 12:33 AM
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My take: Coffee meets Bagel is a dating site, and they've released some interesting stats. This one talks about the age preference of their male and female users. Men generally like younger women, the younger the better. Women generally like men about their age to slightly older. What's interesting to note though is one of their later graphs which shows how often men and women are liked by age. Women's number of likes go down as she gets older, until hitting a bottom around 35, while men are pre…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/07/19 05:56 PM
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Again, what is with this maximum-bitch approach? Is it really that difficult to understand that when you're trying to attract someone, you should at least try to put your best foot forward? I swear, I think the quality of women's personal ads keep declining because the vast majority of men never bother reading them before swiping right on all of them. As long as they don't matter, people can really let out their inner craziness.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/07/19 05:26 PM
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This is a good post to remind all of us that oftentimes, people *do* shoot the messenger. I'm not sure it's worth trying to explain to women what their future is going to be like. Better to talk to guys, who have a chance of understanding the truth. That said, I have to laugh at these women. I assume all of these women are unmarried? And that most of them want to "someday" be married, have kids, etc.? And yet, they don't look at their past failure at landing a decent guy and say "hold up. Maybe …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/07/19 05:18 PM
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Sweet! Thank you. Gonna wear my endorsement to a bar tonight and see who bites. What could go wrong? :-)
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/07/19 04:37 PM
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The larger problem is that she will absolutely have sex with a hot guy that messages her, regardless of what he says or how he treats her. This here is the main problem. Bluepillers, nice guys, etc. make the mistake of believing what women like this say. But they lie, even to themselves, about what they really want, what they're willing to accept, etc. After being burned one too many times by believing their bullshit, they learn to disregard what a woman says, and start becoming redpilled. This …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/07/19 04:21 PM
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I can't stand when women say they need a nice guy to "restore their faith in men". Bitch, you never had any faith to restore. When you were younger and nice guys were all around you, you chose not to see them, nor be attracted to them. You don't need faith to find a good guy. Just a willingness to see them, and a mentality that finds them attractive. They're not rare (or at least, they weren't when you were younger). Nothing a guy does will restore your "faith". Take ownership of the fact that *…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/07/19 11:00 PM
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If planning a wedding takes you as much time as a fulltime job, then there's something wrong with either the wedding, or your ability to accomplish basic adult tasks. Neither bodes well for your future.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen16/07/19 09:14 AM
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Wow. Those posters miss the main points of why we criticize Sandberg: 1) A woman's peak attractiveness is in her mid-twenties. Except for a few late bloomers, this is pretty much universal. Even women who are great catches in their thirties were invariably more desirable in their mid- to late-twenties. In contrast, a man's peak attractiveness is typically later, from around late-20s to sometimes the 40s. What Sandberg is saying is that when you have the most to offer a man, offer it all up to a …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen13/07/19 07:14 AM
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Gotta disagree on this one. I don't have a dog so I'm not partial to any specific breed. But pitbulls are no more aggressive than any other breed. The problem is that dog fighters and other people who want an "aggressive, bad ass dog" go through fads in terms of the breeds they pick, which gives that breed a bad name because the dogs so trained are indeed dangerous. In the 80s it was Rottweilers and Doberman pincers that were considered dangerous dogs. Because those were in style for fighting. W…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/06/19 05:56 PM
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Yep, exactly. When the average chump says he wants to be rich, he means he wants to *spend* like [what he thinks] a rich person does. But the truth is that most rich people got that way by being wise with their money. As a percentage of their income, they spend *less* than the average guy. Everyone wants to be as rich as Warren Buffett. No one wants to live in Buffett's 50 year old shack in Omaha, Neb.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/06/19 06:33 AM
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In all honesty there is no good way to say you're a single mother. Just state the facts honestly and recognize and accept that that single fact will massively decrease your attractiveness to guys. But don't further decrease your attractiveness by trying to shame men who aren't interested, or piling on stupid demands and stuff. Instead, tell them what good things you offer that might compensate for the the fact that you have kids. With any luck you might find a guy interested in what you're offer…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/06/19 12:56 AM
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It's not enough to admit your own inconsistencies. You have to be interested in changing them. She is not. Note her comment from the original post: https://www.reddit.com/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen/comments/bwcczy/alpha_widowed_cc_rider_getting_close_to_30_and/epwni0p?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x She's looking for validation that what she's doing is right. She's not interested in changing. It's sort of like fat people recognizing they're fat. Every fat person knows they're fat. But that's the …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/06/19 08:29 AM
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I respectfully disagree with several of your points. First, if women were happy with working and fucking hot guys, we wouldn't see them on this forum wailing WAATGM. Women *do* want one guy (the alpha bucks unicorn), and they *do* want kids. It's not just about social validation. They intrinsically desire this. Of course, they *also* want to fuck a bunch of guys. In the old days, the latter desire was suppressed so that the former desire could be satisfied, and on the balance, women were happier…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen31/05/19 10:58 PM
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"You sound like a great girl and a real catch. At such a wealthy level, guys just like to have fun and enjoy their money. They'll throw it around hot slutty gold diggers, whisking them away on expensive trips and buying them expensive presents. I was the same way. But don't worry, in the end you will win because 10 years from now, when those guys go broke, the hot sluts have moved on to richer guys, and they're ready to settle for someone who doesn't care about their man being financially secure…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen31/05/19 10:19 PM
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It's not a fantasy. It's a defense against change (to use psycho-speak :-), or cognitive dissonance. Objectively, even women would allow that handsome, tall, rich men are rare (maybe they don't realize it's 1%, but they know it's rare). But if they accept that fact, they'd have to accept that if they want that guy, they need to work their asses off on themselves, becoming a better woman, the type that could attract such a guy. That's too much work. So instead, they go for cognitive dissonance, a…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/05/19 06:08 PM
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Because they *can* have that guy, for one night. So they assume it's just a small step to finding one who'll stick around for a lifetime.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen16/05/19 05:16 AM
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There are a lot of things wrong with your thesis here. First of all, they *do* get with hot women. Elon Musk married Talulah Riley and dated Amber Heard. Do you think they would have given him the time of day if he didn't have his cash. Similarly, Zuckerberg wrote facebook specifically because he couldn't get dates while a college kid at Harvard. It was only after facebook's success that he got a hot, smart Asian girl to marry him. Bezos cheated on his wife with a hot newscaster. Bill Gates marr…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/19 02:01 AM
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Wow. Almost every comment in that post claims YTA. Coincidentally, there's a very analogous post in that sub where a friend tells a *male* that he's pursuing women out of his league: http://archive.is/fVlyU Not surprisingly, most of the responses are NTA. Gee, it's almost like there's a double standard...
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen05/05/19 02:37 AM
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe *both* sexes are becoming less religious. Which means while there are fewer Catholic men, there are also fewer Catholic women competing for them. So the entire premise of her article is false. Furthermore, most Christian thinking about women is antithetical to feminism. While the Bible doesn't prohibit women from working, it does go against the sexual freedoms that feminism advocates, not to mention the whole "serve your husband" thing that feminists hate. …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/05/19 09:08 AM
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Exactly. The ones who pine for their high school sweethearts peaked in high school. It's not like guys are at their best in high school. Not even physically, and certainly not mentally. I'd go further and say you can figure out exactly when a girl hit her peak based on when she had her "The One Who Got Away" moment. Because by definition, she never had anyone better before or since. Which usually means that was when she was at her peak and could command the best guy possible. I pined for my high…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/05/19 11:53 PM
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Post it! I for one would still like to read it. While in general, we might be saying the same things, I'm sure there are details where we approached it differently, and that's always educational.
/r/WhereAllTheGoodMenAre27/04/19 01:05 PM
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The money might have been controlled by men, but the fashion was still women. For example, Coco Chanel was the queen of fashion in the post-WWI era. She literally started the fashion of being tanned. Before that, being porcelain white was considered fashionable, and tanned was ugly (because tanned implied you had to work outside e.g. farmer or laborer, while pale white meant you were rich enough to stay inside all day). She came back from the south of France one year with a tan after a summer of…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/04/19 01:03 PM
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Did y'all catch the quote in one of her instagram photos on her profile? If you let me block your number and ignore you and you don't break into my house to see me, I know you not my soulmate Ultimate shit test right there...
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/04/19 02:42 AM
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Isnt the fashion industry Controlled by men? No way. It's controlled by women and gay men. (Note: the money may be controlled by men in faceless corporations, but they don't set the fashion styles). I've always wondered why women decided to follow the advice of the 2 groups of people who actually don't like women for fashion standards. I have yet to see a heterosexual man who gives a flying fuck what shoes a woman wears. Maybe they might like the way stilettos make a woman's calves look, but tha…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/04/19 02:35 AM
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Not sure about that. Women are obsessed about shoes / fashion / the Kardashians / celebrity tabloids and whole range of other stuff. It's only that such obsessions aren't socially denigrated and labelled like guys' obsessions. We laugh at guys who can quote lines from obscure Japanese anime and plaster their walls with manga characters. Yet women who can list Kendall Jenner's daily schedule down to the minute, and fills their closet with whatever crap the Kardashians are selling, are considered …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/04/19 05:01 PM
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I think Dalrock misses an important component of the market dynamic. What everyone *else* in the market is doing. To make an analogy, if everyone in your industry is a heavy polluter because it's cheaper than being environmentally clean, then you have no choice but to pollute as well, even if you personally believe in being environmentally conscious. Otherwise, your goods will be priced higher in the market, no one will buy them, and you will go bankrupt. OTOH, if rules are established forcing e…
/r/WhereAllTheGoodMenAre26/04/19 04:40 PM
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Exactly. Here's how it goes: When she first starts out on OLD, she posts a couple of cute pictures and a few funny / interesting sentences on her bio. She gets a thousand matches. She figures she must be pretty hot shit and can list a few more dealbreakers to screen out the losers. Still gets a thousand matches. Wow! So many quality guys! Goes on a date. Gets burned as a pump-n-dump. Adds an angry paragraph about fuckboi's and Real Men. Still gets a thousand matches. Since she listed NO HOOKUPs …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen22/04/19 06:52 PM
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Congrats! Good luck with things :-)
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen22/04/19 06:47 PM
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As a Hindu South Asian, we are not allowed to eat cows, so must sadly defer to our Christian bhaiyas
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen22/04/19 05:47 PM
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Here's the thing. She's 41, looking for guys presumably between 40-50. The crossover when women exceeded men in college didn't occur until after she finished college. I.E, if you're a woman older than 35, then there are actually *more* male college graduates in your cohort than women. There is no shortage of successful, financially secure men (At least compared to successful, financially secure women). That's not why you can't find one. You can't find one because none of them are interested in y…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/04/19 09:47 AM
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I think we should persist in modeling what it is we need them to be as partners by standing firm in our own values... we will stand firm as examples of what we need our partners to be Problem is, they already did this, in their 20s/30s. They chased chads, leaving the "good guys" to learn the bitter truth that they either turn into chads or die an incel. So they changed. Now, in their 40s, the women wonder what happened to all those nice guys they knew in their youth. The answer? They're the assh…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/04/19 09:36 AM
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ROFL. That's awesome. I love Don Juan de Marcodong so much I'm switching ethnicities. Hear that, people of WAATGM? I now wish to identify as a Hispanic. If you refuse to acknowledge and accept my new, true ethnicity, I'm calling the oppression police on you.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/04/19 07:57 PM
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Nah. Younger women are even flakier. The way to handle it is to have multiple dates lined up for a night, and to not make any special plans beyond meeting up at your neighborhood bar / coffee shop / restaurant. About 10 years ago, with the advent of constant texting, young people became unable to plan or keep to a schedule. It is what it is. I've long since given up complaining about it. Instead, I figure out something I *want* to do on Friday night (hang out with friends, catch a game at the lo…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/04/19 07:53 PM
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"Not many men can handle it". This 30 year old woman needs to go back to English class. She's confusing the word "can" with the words "want to".
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/04/19 07:25 PM
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Exactly this. She just wants you to pay to raise the child. But doesn't actually want to cede any authority in raising the child well. When the deadbeat "real dad" doesn't pay child support, you will be expected to step in, "man up" and pay the expenses of "your child". But if you want to tell "your child" not to dress like a whore to school when she's 12, you'll get "you're not my real dad!" with the mom nodding along and saying "I'm her real mother, I'll decide what she gets to wear!" In some …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/04/19 07:23 PM
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Because, alpha fucks, beta bucks. The guy that impregnated her and cut her loose is not the same guy who'll have her sloppy seconds. The first guy was probably an attractive bad boy who has lots of other women willing to have sex with him with no obligations. The second guy is a less attractive, boring guy for whom sloppy seconds with this girl may be the best he can get. It's not like guys who wife up women like this don't wish they could have a younger, hotter, less baggage-filled woman to mar…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/04/19 07:19 PM
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This is the inevitable consequence of years of indoctrinating girls that being a mother is "the hardest job in the world". No it's not. It may be the most *important* job in the world (along with being a father), but it is not the hardest. Especially not in modern times when cooking entails an hour of prepping food from the grocery store vs. spending all day literally threshing wheat yourself before being able to make bread. And washing clothes entails putting a load in the machine and catching …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/04/19 06:01 AM
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so old even their hamsters have arthritis. ROFL :-) Somehow though the arthritis just makes them run faster!
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen11/04/19 07:03 AM
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only want to semi-submit to men above her league Nah, they don't submit to those men either. Nope. They'll marry a rich dude, hire two nannies to take care of 1 kid, a housekeeper, a chef, and a gardener, and still have the gall to tell her husband that "as a mother" she has the toughest job in the world. Her friends will convince her that *she's* the one who settled for him because she had to "sacrifice" her career as a Starbucks barista to "support" her husband's career, that support consistin…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/04/19 10:01 PM
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How are you *not* a feminist if you get a degree and a career? I ask in order to point out that we have to be careful about definitions. Most of us (I think :-) don't have a problem with the part of feminism that says women should be free to pursue whatever they wish, including education, careers, etc. The part we have a problem with is the part that says: 1) marriage is an oppressive, patriarchal construct and you can't be married or in an LTR while doing those things (e.g., why do you have to …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/04/19 09:37 AM
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You're listing the wrong aspects. The type of women we criticize on this sub are the women who want everything and contribute nothing. All freedom and no responsibility. For example, women who think being a 50s era housewife means having the guy earn all the money, but she shouldn't be expected to have/raise the kids, or even do simple stuff like cook and take care of the house. Or a career woman who doesn't want a relationship or kids to "weigh her down" while she's pursuing of her education / …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/04/19 09:19 AM
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Exactly. That statement is BS. Let's see: security: you know what job is more insecure than being an uber driver? Stock trader on Wall St. Have a down quarter and they'll literally escort you out of the building one morning. Insurance. Self-employed consultants and business owners don't get insurance paid for. They buy it themselves if they need it. Retirement. No one gets a pension anymore. We might as well all be uber drivers. Holidays off. I've found the more a person makes, the fewer days of…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/03/19 10:25 AM
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This sub does not like women who want to date formally educated, upwardly mobile men. Nope. Nothing wrong with wanting that. The question is, what do you bring to match that? Every woman wants an upwardly mobile man. What do you offer such a guy? When someone basically called her on this, here's her response: No, I think everyone can look for whatever they desire. Well, unless one part is middle aged and the other hasn't even had their frontal lobe mature yet. (Meaning 40 and 20) Way to insult y…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/03/19 10:15 AM
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That's awesome :-) I'm guessing the one that asked you told the others she could get some chump to pay for all their drinks and then picked you as the chump. Good on you for not playing along. I do think things are changing though, for the better. If I've been chatting with a girl for a while and we have a good vibe going, I'll usually buy us a round of drinks. In the past few years, the girls seem to be genuinely surprised and appreciative that I offer them a drink. It's definitely a change fro…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/03/19 09:58 AM
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Those two "inspirational" posters are making me gag: "She has to have 4 arms, 4 legs, 2 hearts, [sounds like a monster from some children's horror book] and double the love [yet none for you; her kids come first, dontcha know?]. There is nothing single about a single mother [except for her relationship status, which, umm is what the single is referring to, yes?]". Oh yeah, and they forgot somethings: she also has 2 mouths to feed, double the entitlement, cynicism, and drama. You're right, there'…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/03/19 04:08 AM
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"BUY ME A DRINK" has to be the stupidest pickup line a woman ever uses. I still don't get it. You're interested in me, and yet you want *me* to buy you a drink? Yeah right. Get lost. Note: I'm not asking for the woman to buy me a drink instead. Just come up with a better pickup line. Even a simple "Hi, I like your shirt" would be better.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/03/19 03:48 AM
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That's an interesting observation. Unfortunately, I'm at as much of a loss to explain it as you :-)
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/03/19 03:12 AM
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Quite common. It's all about the novelty factor and being exotic, right? Just like there are guys with an Asian fetish, Latina fetish, etc. there are definitely a good number of dudes that love the look of Indian women. And they end up boosting the egos of Indian women sky high. FWIW, I also think there are lots of white women with an Indian fetish too. Not necessarily for the nerdy tech engineer, but if you're reasonably social you'll find a lot of non-Indian women interested. No joke, in my da…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/03/19 03:12 AM
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Damn. We might just live in the same neighborhood :-) I see it too. Half the time, the guy doesn't even want any more kids, since he already has full-grown ones. But the young wife he marries doesn't have a family yet and wants kids, so he acquiesces. It's a bit of a Devil's bargain: chose an older divorced woman who already has kids and doesn't want more (and deal with an older, less attractive woman), or go for the youngest, hottest ones you can attract (which, if you're rich and live in SoCal…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/03/19 03:02 AM
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That's what they do. Although not all at the same time. A high-status man will often have a "starter wife" and then, later on, a second (usually never married) younger wife, and have families with both of them. They'll have one set of kids in their teenage years, and one set of toddlers. It seems that many women prefer that rather than having one, slightly lower status guy all to themselves.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/03/19 03:53 PM
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Many westernized Indian women pursue the worst of the dual mating strategy. While white women assume that there will be some 'nice guy' when they're 35 and ready to settle down, they at least recognize that they will need to do *some* work finding him. OTOH, Indian women assume they can get an arranged marriage i.e. their parents will find one for them once they're done fucking around and they haven't found someone themselves. It leads to the worst form of alpha fux / beta bux there is. But it's…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/03/19 03:47 PM
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Oh yeah. I loved that one :-) But seriously? A non-trashy porn star with a heart of gold who falls for the local nerdy straight-and-narrow square? Yeah right... I thought his friend, the porn addict who identified her, was a better character. He at least had no qualms about wanting to bang a pornstar. Whereas the way the story was written, the main character could even pretend to like the porn star "for her personality". Sure buddy...
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/03/19 12:33 AM
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To be fair, that's because they're aimed at women and want to make money. Romantic comedies aimed at guys do the reverse: plain beta guy gets the hot girl, usually not because they do the hard work of changing themselves into an alpha (working out, getting a better personality, etc.) but by showing the hot girl "who he truly is" and then she rejects the jocks and/or rich guy in favor of him, e.g. Can't Hardly Wait, Along Came Polly, even Hitch (the main character was super-suave Will Smith, but …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/03/19 03:22 PM
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https://www.theonion.com/european-men-are-so-much-more-romantic-than-american-me-1819594261
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/03/19 04:24 AM
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Yes, but the game is lost if you end up with no kids. IOW, alpha kids >> beta kids >> no kids. If hypergamy helps you get with the alpha guy, that's great. But worst of all is if it keeps you from having any kids at all. Evolutionary adaptations can turn maladaptive when the environment changes. Hypergamy is a great female adaptation when all you're limited to is local men whom you do have a chance with. In the old days when the only eligible men you met were all in your high school class and lo…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/03/19 04:35 PM
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I'll take a stab at answering your questions: Why doesn’t the women’s marriage market correct itself? If you believe in free market economics, there is no such thing. The market is always correct. That doesn't mean everyone gets what they want. For example, if you don't have enough money for food and therefore starve, that's not necessarily a market failure to provide you enough food. The market has no such obligation. (FWIW, I'm not such a market absolutist, but it's a good frame of mind to rem…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/03/19 08:43 AM
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Ah, but you'd prefer her to having your *right* nut shot off, yes? So there's a chance this could work between you two? :-)
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen22/03/19 11:58 PM
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But we're talking attraction. A woman could easily say the same thing about cooking: she earns more than a cook so why not just hire a cook or eat out? But a woman cooking has symbolic value to a guy. Same thing with guys fixing shit. It has symbolic value to a woman beyond just saving money. Also, for a lot of simple stuff, I'd say doing it yourself actually saves you time. Sure, rebuilding an engine will take more time than it's worth, so you should only do it if you actually enjoy the work as…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/03/19 03:17 AM
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Sure. I'm not saying they're better than guys. But if you have to be friends with a woman, they were the best choice. Plus it was just fun because it was definitely a different and eye-opening experience than hanging out with guys (not better or worse, just different). She convinced me that female sexuality is a lot more fluid but also a lot more rigid than I previously believed. What do I mean? As mentioned, despite being butch, she was still pretty hot. And she kept trying to tell me women are…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/03/19 12:10 AM
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Another maladaptive behavior, being an anti-rape crusader in college: http://archive.is/R3OgW The best part: She animatedly tells a story about a recent Tinder rendezvous: “One time, I agreed to meet with this guy at 8 or 9 at night. Before we met, I said to him, ‘This is the work I do, I know the chief of police … so, don’t try and get creepy; I know all my rights.’ And five minutes later, he was like, ‘Actually, I’m really not OK with how you just assume I’m a bad guy. And I get very bad vibes…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/03/19 05:35 AM
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I occasionally comment in that sub and, IMHO, the women there are no different than the women in datingoverthirty or any other relationship sub. Nothing purple about them. As usual with women, you have to listen to what she *doesn't* say. WRT this "good guy" that she wants, she doesn't say the guy must be good looking, with a great personality, and (likely) at least a few years older than her, i.e. late 20s. When multiple posters point out that, if >60k salary is her only criteria, there are ple…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/03/19 05:12 AM
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Thank you, I think? :-) P.S. The mods on this forum are great. I've never seen a forum where the mods are as involved, which really helps keep the quality up!
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/03/19 04:26 AM
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Unfortunately, she doesn't get it. Leave it to a woman to do a poorly designed experiment, and then proceed to get the wrong conclusions anyway. Supermodel McHottieson was listed as 38 years old. No supermodel (or fitness model, which is what she says she used) is still working as a model at 38. I bet she took a picture of some 25 year old model and listed her as age 38. Guys can easily tell a 15 year age difference, even among beautiful women. Given how many fake profiles guys get catfished wit…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/03/19 03:13 AM
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Nicely done. And they say women are the creative ones!
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/03/19 05:38 AM
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Much better! Now do one in haiku, like this: alpha fucks often, woman cries "where is good man?", beta bucks to rescue
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/03/19 02:09 AM
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It needs to rhyme. Channel your inner poet!
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/03/19 01:50 AM
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As if lesbian relationships are all so great. Among gay men, heterosexual couples, and lesbian couples, lesbians have the highest rates of divorce and domestic violence (gay couples have the lowest). And as for that sweet, sweet lesbian sex? I mean lesbians always say how the sex is so much hotter since women know how to please women, right? She should look up lesbian bed death. I know she's probably semi-joking but this whole threatening to go lesbo is an extreme case of grass is greener on the…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/03/19 01:17 AM
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She works in an industry where there are probably 3x as many guys as girls and yet she's crying WAATGM while simultaneously rejecting 4/5's of them. We're hitting some sort of WAATGM singularity here...
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/03/19 06:36 PM
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You're exactly right. Asian women, and other recent immigrants, have tons of pressure to not date out of their race. So when they want to ride some white / latin / black dude's dick they need to convince themselves that it wasn't their idea / their fault. It just happened, you know? Where it gets dangerous is that, given enough pressure, they can convince themselves that it was non-consensual. Their thinking can go from "it just happened" to "I didn't actually want it, and it still happened". An…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/03/19 06:32 PM
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I feel like that first mod comments deserves a post all by itself: comments about birth defects, autism, downs syndrome and the like will be removed. Except of course for this comment and the POV it espouses, despite the fact that by their own admission, the chances of Down's syndrome triples as the mother's age goes from 40 to 45. No reason is given for why these risks can't be discussed in a relationship forum where the OP is talking about having a family. Imagine going to a doctor's office wh…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/03/19 03:19 AM
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I'm with you here. This one is at least better than the others in that she tried. I think both have work to do. The guy, yeah, it's great he lost 200 pounds, but he needs to do more. It's not unreasonable to consider surgery to remove all that excess skin, and it's definitely not unreasonable to dress better. He seems like he's maybe a decent guy just really inexperienced, which is fine, but there are other handicaps he can address. The girl has gone from one extreme to the other: from caring on…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/03/19 05:09 AM
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The OPs goal is to be married real soon, and it appears she's less than 30. Which means she should have started several years ago i.e. early 20s. Heck, it can take a couple years just to *find* someone who might be a potential LTR. They're not as common as the hordes of guys blowing up a girl's tinder account looking for sex (plus she needs to learn how to look for them hint: not Tinder...). Sure, if you don't want to get married until you're 40, then don't bother with LTRs until later on (altho…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/03/19 10:47 PM
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I think it's even simpler than that: since sex can be had so easily (just a swipe away), they assume a relationship can be obtained just as easily. When you have literally hundreds of hot guys basically begging to spend a night with you, you can't fathom that none of them want to spend a lifetime of nights with you. Guys realize sex is fucking hard to obtain, so they're not shocked when they realize a real relationship is even harder to find / maintain. I was at a bar with a hot female friend a …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/03/19 04:04 PM
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That's the point. Most guys aren't with their first LTR. IOW, you have to learn how to be in one, both in terms of what you really need / want out of an LTR and what a real flesh-and-blood person on the other side needs / wants from you. Having a bunch of casual flings doesn't give you that experience. Ergo, having a bunch of casual flings and then deciding they want to marry the next guy they date because they suddenly feel that time is running out is beyond stupid. If she wanted to be married …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/03/19 03:48 PM
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Wow. Where to start? 1) Let's see, the trauma keeps you from developing an emotional connection, but doesn't prevent you from having casual sex? Doubt it. Plus she doesn't say that due to trauma, she's afraid of getting close to someone. She *wants* to get close to someone, and just doesn't know how. The trauma is an excuse for the primary problem: she prefers casual flings but now is feeling pressure to settle down but doesn't really want to do it, and doesn't really know how. 2) At least she's…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen09/03/19 05:37 PM
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I'm going to throw this white knight a bone. I agree that dating is hard for everyone. But it's hard in different ways for different people. Yeah, a hot woman who gets thousands of matches, knowing that 99% only want to bang her and leave, has a hard task finding that 1%. That's not the same type of difficulty as the average man who gets maybe 1-2 matches a month. Who has it worse? Quite frankly, it doesn't matter. I'm not interested in trying to get a gold medal in the pity party olympics. The …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen05/03/19 05:16 PM
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Yeah, I'm glad we were able to keep it civil :-) I think the biggest point of this sub (At least for me) is that women need to understand that the decisions they make have consequences, and when they find themselves in a situation they don't like (e.g. not able to find a "good man" to date), it's not the man's fault, it's her own for making the choices she made. What makes most of these posts equally funny and aggravating is the stunning lack of self-awareness about how one's own actions led dir…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen05/03/19 06:18 AM
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So you're saying it's easier for a guy to add a digit to his bank account (i.e. increase it by 10x) than it is for a woman to learn how to bake cookies? Okay... Your reply is the female equivalent of incels who say that since achieving Brad Pitt levels of attractiveness require not just a gym but genetic facial structure, that therefore nothing can be done. There is no in-between, and any improvement that doesn't get them to Brad Pitt's level is utterly useless. Might as well stay fat, with hobb…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen05/03/19 05:58 AM
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Anyone who puts pressure on men to be in a relationship they are uncomfortable with seriously needs to reconsider their values. But that's exactly what people saying "Real Men do this, Real Men do that" are trying to do. They're trying to shame men into entering into a relationship with someone they otherwise don't want. If someone says eg "Only Real Men are strong enough to love another man's children" that's an attempt to shame someone into dating a single mother, or at the very least, insulti…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen05/03/19 05:34 AM
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That's great, and I hope she does just that. I hate seeing people live fucked up, unhappy lives. But the question remains, exactly why do I have to be a part of it? She's not family. She's not a friend. I have no obligation to her. If I'm looking for a wife, why choose a recovering addict vs. someone strong enough to never turn to drugs in the first place? Calling a person like this low relationship value doesn't mean I want her to die. It means I don't want to date her. And lots of men with opt…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/03/19 05:59 PM
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This illustrates so much of the difference between the way men and women think: Ive done a lot of work on myself Dollars to donuts this "work" was very little action and a lot of navel gazing. Depending on her therapy, I might include that in the navel-gazing as well. When guys say "I've done a lot of work on myself" they mean they've tried to solve their problem through action. In the case of being unsuccessful with women, that means they've worked out, lost weight, got a better job, learned wh…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/03/19 05:23 PM
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I'm with you here. I used to call myself a feminist when it was about things like workplace equality, domestic violence, etc. But now that it's about microaggressions and victim olympics, I stepped off. Heck, I supported #metoo when it was about Harvey Weinstein and Bill Cosby. But by the time it became about Aziz Ansari and bad dates, it went from tragedy to farce. Heck, I thought the move to publicize "date rape" (as it was called in prehistoric times aka the 90s :-) was good. But back then, t…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/03/19 08:22 AM
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in your early 20s you explore, in your early 30s you settle down. That's a woman's timeline. Why do you expect guys will also follow it? Guys who are attractive enough to date tons of women but who place a priority on starting a family either get married in their 20s or, if they marry later, marry a woman in their 20s. Either way, if you as a woman hit your early 30s and then decide to settle down, don't complain about what men are available who are willing to settle for you. Also, a man who has…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/03/19 08:02 AM
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If you've noticed from the other responses, the being "picky" becomes a problem -- for women or men -- when the person doing the choosing refuses to accept responsibility for the inevitable outcomes of their choices. In the OP's specific case, here are specific problems: Probably the most important: she's not being "picky" about the right things. Even if she wants a financially stable guy, an uneducated man working the trades can often make a lot more money than some guy with a worthless college…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/03/19 07:39 AM
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What makes the OP even worse is the way she characterizes what her guy friends wanted. One of the comments was even that this was "Rapey" (hate that word; it's rape or it isn't). Their disdain for these guys comes through in the fact that they can't even conceive that maybe, just maybe, these guys wanted a real relationship with the girl, the type that, I don't know, she might enjoy, might be healthy, and help her get over her prior relationship. I'm not saying every relationship is healthy or e…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/03/19 01:12 PM
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A man with money also wants to be loved for who he is, not his money. Most rich guys are smart enough to suss out the girls who just want their money, and either pump-n-dump them, or stay away altogether. The problem isn't that, it's the type of person she "loves for who they are". If what you like in a man is an unreliable fuckboy, then surprise! that's what you get. If what you like is a reliable, hardworking, maybe a little boring, guy who will adore you, then you'll get a guy who, chances ar…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/02/19 11:36 AM
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Exactly! It wasn't guys that started this move to constant, incessant texting over actual phone conversations or meeting in person. The trend started with teenage girls, and adopted by their older female compatriots, and men were forced to go along with it. I remember plenty of 20-something women who thought it was awkward, or really intimidating, or "moving too fast" if I called rather than texted. Mind you, this was *after* we'd gone on a few dates, and wanted to continue seeing each other. It…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/02/19 03:36 AM
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No point approaching when every girl is engrossed in their phone. Seriously, why are you overpaying for alcohol at a bar if all you do is sit in the corner and stare at your phone? You can do that for much cheaper at home.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen16/02/19 01:42 AM
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Congratulations, Friedrich Nutzsche!
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen11/02/19 12:00 AM
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Umm... the reason why there are no dating apps catering to older women is because no one wants them. Or, to be fair, the market is very small. Guys pay money to be around young women, whether that's at bars, clubs, or online dating sites. That's how these sites make money. Make a site which specifically only has 50+ women on it, and you will have very, very few men sign up, and none of them will pay anything for extra features because they don't need them to get a bunch of matches. It's the same…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/02/19 11:54 PM
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She's 23, with "some university" and refuses to list what she does (Profession: I have one). Let me translate: she dropped out school, has been in the real world, working odd jobs for the past few years. At University, she had her pick of tons of handsome guys with long-term career prospects literally parading on the sidewalk in front of her dorm room every Thurs/Fri/Sat night. Now that she's in the real world, her social network has dissolved to nothing (because with that entitled attitude, she…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/02/19 11:34 PM
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If being fetishized is destroying your self esteem, then leave. But that's not really the problem. Quite frankly, she's blaming her guy's fetish for Asian women to overlook the rest of his behavior i.e. not really being into her. If he had a thing for Asian chicks but that led him to be slavishly devoted to her, then she'd have no problem with his fetish. IOW, it's not the fetish, it's his behavior. Either way, if you don't like it, leave. She also overlooks that she is undoubtedly fetishizing h…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/02/19 12:03 PM
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Interesting... Not to sound too pedo or anything but the girls at the Berkeley high school were far hotter than the girls at the university. I'd be getting lunch on Shattuck when all of a sudden the sidewalks would be inundated with hot but really young girls and then realize the high school just let out. Talk about jailbait :-)
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/02/19 11:38 AM
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Those aren't incompatible. If a woman isn't sexually aroused by a guy by the third date, she should cut him off instead of stringing him along. We're not saying she *has* to have sex by the third date. Rather, that if she doesn't feel sexually aroused by then, she'll pretty much *never* feel aroused by him, and she knows it. At best, he'll be friendzone'd, or trapped into a loveless marriage. Since she knows this, she should cut it off instead of stringing a guy along for his resources. OTOH, sh…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/02/19 04:03 AM
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"cuz you just showed you're not worth fighting for."
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/02/19 03:51 AM
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I've been around the Berkeley campus quite a bit, and the co-eds aren't that hot. Sure there are a few, but overall the Asian women look like the typical Asian nerds (to say nothing of the Asian guys :-), and were probably maladjusted in high school (although lots of them *are* quite smart). But maybe I'm just spoiled because I used to hang around UCLA :-)
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/02/19 03:37 AM
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The minute he does get her flowers at work or wraps his jacket around her, or stops checking out other Asian women, she'll be dumping his ass for being too boring, ridiculing him for being a nice guy who doesn't deserve her sex after putting in nice-guy tokens, and moving on to the next white guy who'll treat her like shit and destroy her self-esteem. Or does she really think we believe this is the first guy to do this to her?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/02/19 03:35 AM
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RealMen(tm) don't ghost! Uggh. So much toxic masculinity. Must be a fuckboi. Then she'll sit around hamstering about why he doesn't text back, sending progressively more suggestive nudes trying to get him to respond. Finally, he responds at 2am with "wanna fuk?" and she leaves "her world" in his crib and fucks the shit out of him. He throws her out after she refuses to make a sandwich after sex (I'm a strong woman! Not your cook!). The next day, she amends her OLD profile to add "Not here to pla…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/02/19 03:26 AM
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She's lying. Provably so. After all, regardless of what she says, at least one of the guys that *actually* dropped her panties was the one that fucked her when she didn't have kids and then left.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/02/19 03:15 AM
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Remember the lock and key analogy: a key that opens many locks is an awesome key. A lock that can be opened by many keys is a shitty lock.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/02/19 03:11 AM
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Was this pre-#metoo? If a random hot girl on the street stopped me and asked me to have sex, I'd assume it's a trap. Or I'm about to get punk'ed. These days, I wouldn't even stop and acknowledge the question. I don't know man. I used to nod to most people on the sidewalk as I walk by (guys and girls), and even smile and say hello frequently. I've stopped doing that with women. It's not because I think I'm at risk of getting sued. It's just that #metoo has made women think every single friendly h…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/02/19 03:08 AM
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I've been called a NiceGuy, a simp, a fool, anything you can think of to degrade men for giving all my money to twitch thots and instagram hoes. I am here to tell you that I EMBRACE that shit. Every time I tell someone I gave money to almost 30 camwhores on twitch and instagram, and they give me a high-five or cheer with amazement, it feels awesome. Anytime I see someone judge me for it, I immediately think, that's okay if you don't identify with this lifestyle. Call me whatever you'd like, but …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen09/02/19 09:27 AM
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It can even be quantified: I pay a maid $100 every month to clean my place. As a single guy who isn't a total slob, that's all that's needed (aside from stuff like laundry, dishes, trash) to keep my place pretty damn clean. If keeping a clean house was the hardest job in the world, maids would be paid more than brain surgeons.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen31/01/19 03:57 AM
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Yeah right. Most women don't even know where millionaires and billionaires hang out. Doesn't matter how much you change yourself, if you never cross paths with them, there's little chance you'll actually "bag" one. Women (and poor guys) seem to think that millionaires and billionaires spend their time lounging around on their yachts, playing polo in the afternoon, and jetsetting to Ibiza every weekend to go clubbing and party all night. In reality, most rich people -- at least the self-made ones…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/01/19 05:20 AM
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Yeah, it must. I guess I just don't understand it though. At least a fuck can be pleasurable to a woman, so if you happen to find a girl who thinks you're attractive, I can see it working. What pleasure does a guy take in buying a drink for a woman? I guess it's something like "Wow! Of all the guys here, she picked me for the privilege of paying for her a beer!" smh
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/01/19 09:19 PM
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Yeah, I've had women come up to me and say that and it still kinda floors me. At least strike up a conversation before asking me for a drink. Give me the illusion that you might actually be interested in me and not just see me as a target. Does it ever work? I guess it must...
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/01/19 09:11 PM
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On Grindr :-^)
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/01/19 05:31 PM
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That was my first reaction. In the dark, in the middle of a blind corner (must be fairly sharp corner to have those curving signs put up). Next time, it might just be a killfie instead of a selfie.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/01/19 05:16 PM
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You know that's the case when the bf offers to go with her and rent a hotel, and she declines. Yeah, if her ex was really abusive, she'd jump at the offer to have her bf go with her, and have a safe hotel to come back to each night. If she feels her child is so in danger that she needs to stay in the house with her, she should be calling the cops or child protective services to get her out of there ASAP, and get in the car and start driving RIGHT NOW, not wait and plan to visit sometime in the n…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/01/19 05:07 PM
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And... they'll fuck the boy and make fun of the man. And then they wonder why these days men turn into boys and not the other way around.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/01/19 04:56 PM
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That's true. Damn, I must be getting too used to the usual WAATGM entry which usually starts with "no hookups" and lists far more than just height, age and income requirements. :-)
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen22/01/19 02:27 AM
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She got married during her peak years, when she was smoking hot, decided to divorce, and is about to realize that, while she still looks pretty good, her value is nowhere near what it was when she locked down her last husband. Even sugar daddies don't generally go for 30 year olds. Even the 60 year olds, if they're paying cash, go for college students or maybe 25 year olds. She's been out of the market for long enough she doesn't realize how much her value has depreciated. She's about to find ou…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen22/01/19 01:46 AM
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This is a *totally* unrealistic picture. Because there are no cats anywhere to be seen!
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen22/01/19 01:39 AM
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I agree that there will never be a substitute for a "real" human's interaction and intimacy (man or woman). And I think everyone will always desire that. If you choose the right person, the ups are far more than the downs, and overall you will (hopefully) be much happier with this person being in your life than without. But IMHO your statement that VR will only ever be an option for "low value" guys is incomplete. As time goes on and VR gets better (and assuming the costs stay the same), it will…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/19 01:06 AM
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Here's the thing: no woman I know, ever jokes about these things. Even when they're joking about it. Whenever women bring up marriage, etc. in a joking way, what it means is, they're dying to tell you they want to get married, but they're putting it in a joke form so that you can't freak out about it in case you're not on the same page. It's sort of like "joking" about wanting to bang a woman. If she responds favorably, it's on, and if she doesn't, she can't claim it's harassment because "it was…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/01/19 06:53 PM
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Exactly! It's just a way of putting blame back on guys. Umm, no, we're not afraid of you. We just don't feel the need to deal with your bullshit. Could I jump through every hoop you're putting up? Sure can. The question is, why should I? What do you offer at the finish line?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/01/19 06:36 PM
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Yeah, I learned how to read a map when I was maybe 10 years old so I could navigate for my Dad on our family road trips. We'd be in the middle of nowhere and my Dad would ask me where we are, and I'd remember what the last exit was, look at the mile markers on the side of the road, plot our place on the map and tell him how many miles until we hit the next town. It's really not that hard, but women just can't seem to do it. In fairness to my Mom, we were immigrants and she wasn't comfortable in …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/01/19 06:31 PM
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Yes, they were single, and I doubt they were virgins, but that doesn't mean they were banging supermodels left and right. Your assumption of wild promiscuity is just as baseless as any assumption of being completely monkish. Again, what is your definition of "sexually successful"? I'd argue that masculinity's definition of "sexually successful" is not only having tons of casual sex, which is what people label as "toxic masculinity". Masculinity also accepts being sexually successful by being wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 05:21 PM
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Yeah, so do I. As much as they go through rough patches in their relationship, and as much as they joke about how I can have as much casual sex as I want now that I'm single again, both of us know I'd trade places with them in an instant, but they wouldn't trade places with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 05:05 PM
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Sure, Brad is respected for marrying one of the most desirable women on the planet. But that's just it: he married *one* woman. And before that, he was married to Jennifer Aniston, and before that, he was with Gwyneth Paltrow (I think? Don't quote me on that. I'm behind on my USWeekly reading :-). Was he banging supermodels? Maybe, but we never heard about it, the way we do with DiCaprio, so I'd argue that no, that's not part of the public persona that guys respect him for. I'd absolutely agree …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 04:56 PM
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Eh, I think both are to blame. Men, for essentially spamming women, and women for buying into the spam. The spam analogy is very apt. When it cost a postage stamp to mail someone a spam, you got much less of it, and a lot more was actually targeted at what might interest you, and was well designed to get your attention. But once spam became free, you got inundated with tons of spam, most of which didn't even have correct spelling or complete sentences. That's essentially what lots of men do now.…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 04:37 PM
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I don't know if I should wade into this minefield, but here goes: Masculinity doesn't say a man who doesn't hook up with tons of women is worthless. In fact, plenty of guys make fun of PUAs and metrosexuals for focusing too much on women. And lots of respected "manly men" are married to only one woman. Leo DiCaprio might be respected for sleeping with different models every week, but so are Brad Pitt and George Clooney, who were generally only in serious relationships. Heck, the quintessential m…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 04:12 PM
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I agree with what you say, but you don't look at the cost side of the picture. Yes, the emotional intimacy you can get with a good, real-life woman can be amazing and there will likely never be a substitute for it (provided you find the right woman). But there are costs of being in such a relationship. First there are times when she will drive you up the wall (just like you might do the same to her once in a while :-). And there are times when she needs emotional support back from you. And so on…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 03:11 PM
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IMHO, RP gives you the tools to find a hundred women to fuck, or find one great woman to have a relationship with. How you use it is up to you. Some guys decide they want to have sex with a hundred women. Other guys decide they want to pursue LTRs. Yes, some parts of RP philosophy tells you to choose the former route, but you don't have to follow that part of RP. Happiness is more than one single type of pleasure. And any pleasure pursued to the extreme either indicates an unhealthy obsession, o…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/19 05:23 PM
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But doesn’t sex = pleasure which translates to happiness? Masturbation also = pleasure. Yet it doesn't lead to happiness.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/19 05:08 PM
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IMHO, it's neutral so I would leave it out of OLD profiles because no one is going to date you just because you're a programmer, and there may be a *few* superficial girls who won't go out with you because they automatically assume you're a nerd. OTOH, I wouldn't stress too much about it IRL because your profession is much less important for initial attraction than everything else about you e.g. your looks, personality, etc. So once someone actually meets you, everything else about you matters m…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/19 05:00 PM
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I’ve been in too many situations where I was a great girlfriend to a terrible boyfriend. Umm, it's called cause and effect: you were a great girlfriend to him *because* he was a terrible boyfriend to you. If he was a good guy and/or actually followed your litany of demands, you would have dumped his ass way before the bf/gf stage.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen16/01/19 03:33 AM
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Eh, his response is kinda butthurt. There was a time in my callow youth when it was important to get the last word in. Now, I realize the goal is just to move on and stop wasting any more time / effort / attention / mental energy. Aside from riling her up, exactly what response did the OP expect from her with calling her out about what she expected from tinder? I would have said "My week is pretty busy so I don't think I have time for anything more right now. I'll let you know when I do. Hope yo…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen16/01/19 03:18 AM
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And why should I care whether you respect me? I'm not interested in you, I have no ties to you, I literally could not care less whether you respect me or not.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen16/01/19 02:57 AM
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actually, her own guy friends clued her in. After listing the accomplishments of the single women she knows, her friends ask "can I see a photo?" She still never got the hint...
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen15/01/19 03:49 PM
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I think you're leaving out one important thing: reciprocity. You say the only thing that you care about when you do the dishes is seeing your bf happy. That may be true. But you also expect your bf to do things to make *you* happy. If you were the only person doing things to make your SO happy, and you ever felt that your SO wasn't reciprocating by trying to make you happy, than you probably would (and definitely should) stop. This isn't about being greedy or keeping count. It's a basic need to …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/19 07:19 AM
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I second this. Those women are lying to get sympathy. Or they mean the guys they *want* to hit on them aren't talking to them. I've dated a few women who were the drop-dead, stop-traffic types, and it seriously became a pain to take them anywhere public. If you step away for even a minute, to get a drink, or use the bathroom, when you came back, you'd have to get through a group of guys just to get back to your girl. Heck, even when you're dancing with her, guys will come up and try to but in. Y…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/19 05:45 AM
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I hate the word neg'ing. Teasing is a better term. When done right, it's often even a backhanded compliment that makes the girl feel better about herself. Either way, it needs to be calibrated to the woman. Someone with strong self-esteem (at least wrt the part you're about to tease her about) can take a harder cut, and often even enjoys giving it right back. OTOH, a woman with low self-esteem would take the same teasing as a real insult and genuinely feel bad, which is the opposite of what you …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/19 05:32 AM
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It's a great strategy to acknowledge a shortage of men, then proceed to insult them at every turn. Yep, that will turn them out in droves. Want to host a singles event that's guaranteed to attract hordes of single, straight men? Screen the women for being 21-29 and an 8+ in attractiveness, with a fun personality. Don't screen the guys for occupation or height. Guess what, you'll get tons of guys and likely very few women. According to the author's logic, that must be because hot girls are lazy /…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen15/01/19 04:24 AM
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I was looking for someone for life, and she turned out not to be it. Only saving grace was that it was a relatively short marriage (3 yrs) so we could move on. I do agree that you learn and grow from every relationship you have, so in that sense, it wasn't a "wrong" decision. I've learned lots that hopefully will be useful in the future. But, OTOH, she obviously was not the life partner I thought she would be for me, so in that sense, I chose wrongly.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 01:44 AM
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The problem is, those women are men. Lol. In my defense, I meant meeting people in real life who like fortnite as opposed to flirting with a character in the game. But I suppose some of the real-life women can be men too. Watch for the Adam's apple! :-) ​
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/19 06:16 PM
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people despise red pill for more reasons then you listed. True, there are parts that can be pretty misogynous or downright silly. But, IMHO, if people hate the parts of TRP I listed above, it's usually because it's a hard road to follow, because it calls for changing yourself. Take incels. They obviously want female attention. But they blame women for the fact that they don't get it. Yes, we can say women are shallow, superficial, yadda yadda yadda. We don't have to agree with the way women live…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/19 06:03 PM
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Don't worry about the gold. Just try to stick to this road to becoming a better person and I'll have done my job :-)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/19 05:23 AM
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Like a lot of people, I've probably gone from blue pill to red pill to purple pill to rainbow-colored poka dot yellow pill :-) There's some truth in all of them and the trick is to ferret out the good stuff and leave the rest behind. FWIW, I read the PUA stuff and never ginned to it because it seemed fake. They focused on tricks to make a woman *think* you were this awesome dude, instead of actually *being* that awesome dude. It was the equivalent of women stuffing their bras because they know m…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/19 02:54 AM
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I'm not sure what you're asking... Are you saying that everyone has some idealized notion of their perfect partner in their head? Yes, we all do. But most of us also know there's no such thing as perfection in real life, and try to find someone with a good combination of traits that we're happy with. There's an old joke that goes "Don't expect us to act like soap opera guys unless you're willing to dress like victoria's secret models". It's good for a laugh, but the truth is, most people *don't*…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/19 01:40 AM
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I blame all those execrable "Real Housewives Of ..." shows for giving her sister this fucked-up idea of what life as a housewife should be. All of those women are supposedly housewives, but the only way they're housewives is that most of them don't have real jobs. But that doesn't mean they actually do any housework or child-rearing. Instead, they still have 1 or 2 nannies, a full-time maid, gardener, etc. And they spend all their time getting their hair done, getting drunk by noon, and having c…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/01/19 12:54 AM
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The first joke I've heard about fat women and gravity that uses relativity and not classical physics. Kudos to you fellow physics nerd! :-)
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/01/19 12:38 AM
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Of course! That's why we accidentally overlooked it ;-) We don't have trans-continental xray vision like the super-subscribers in that sub apparently do...
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/01/19 12:34 AM
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She then proceeds to say that misusing their and there is a dealbreaker...
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/01/19 08:23 AM
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The three most important statements are these: "I tend to do this when meeting new people I find attractive." i.e. this is not just about general validation. This is validation from people she wants to fuck. People like validation from anywhere. Heck, instagram ho's get off on getting likes from random simps in 3rd world countries that they have never met. Not saying that's healthy or any better, but I'm just saying this is not just harmless fun, or else she would enjoy flirting with anyone. "I …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/12/18 02:40 AM
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She's not conservative nor a Christian if she's pregnant out of wedlock. As for pre-med, hahahaha. She screwed the pooch on that one. It's hard enough being a single mom and getting through college. Med school is a whole 'nother ball game, and there's no way she'll even get in, much less make it through while caring for a baby. Actions have consequences. Single mothers (and even, to a large extent, married mothers with young children) don't make it through intense training programs like med scho…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/12/18 05:05 AM
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While I like this guy's response, he still doesn't get it: the pregnancy is a means to get rich. Did he assume she meant she was going to *earn* that money she loves so much, by herself? Yeah right. Tiger Woods's wife Elin Nordgren walked away with $100 million. She never shot a 300-yard drive in her life. All she did was get pregnant twice.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/12/18 04:54 AM
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Let's see if I can point out at least a few of the logical holes in this article's argument: 1) Why not criticize women for looking for men with higher incomes even when the woman has a good job that could easily support an entire family? 2) While marriage rates may be plummeting, women's fertility rate is not. It's hovered around 2.1-2.2 for decades. IOW, women may not be marrying "lazy men with no j-o-b" but they sure are fucking them left and right. Could this indiscriminate carousel-riding h…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/12/18 11:16 PM
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Yeah, cheap lesson in the overall scheme of things :-)
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen14/12/18 01:57 AM
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Canticle??? Are you serious? That's a new one. I've always thought if your name would fit in on the Dukes of Hazzard (Cooter, Enis, Boss Hogg, Roscoe), then you've chosen poorly. But even they would laugh at Canticle!
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen14/12/18 01:21 AM
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Yep. This happened to me too. 10 years ago I noticed that women became incapable of planning ahead and keeping a date. It wasn't even that they weren't interested, they just stopped keeping a schedule. So I stopped planning elaborate dates. Truth be told, I actually liked taking women to the theater or some special event, or planning a day trip. It was a reason for me to do something fun with a (hopefully) cool chick. But opera tickets need to be bought in advance, and if I can't be sure that yo…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen14/12/18 01:01 AM
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"I'm 15 years old, and all I want to do is party and watch TV, not study. But I want to be a rocket scientist when I'm 30." "You go girl! Have your fun! If some man decides not to trust you with rockets when you're 30, he's an asshole who should realize your past doesn't matter!" Spending 10 years in meaningless tinder hookups doesn't give you the experience to sustain a lifelong relationship. Is it any wonder then that once they turn 30 and want a "real man", they have no idea what it takes to …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen13/12/18 03:26 AM
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It rings true, "Feminism didn't remove the shackles women thought they were wearing, it removed the shackles men didn't know they were wearing". Holy shit man, you nailed it! Have an upvote :-)
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen11/12/18 06:02 AM
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https://ncadv.org/blog/posts/domestic-violence-and-the-lgbtq-community tl;dr rates of domestic violence in lesbian couples are significantly higher than in heterosexual couples which in turn are higher than rates among gay men. So much for toxic masculinity being the root of domestic violence. Could it actually be toxic femininity? Nahh, no such thing!
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen11/12/18 05:56 AM
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Agreed. This whole "men are in perpetual adolescence because they refuse to get married" is BS. For the life of me, I don't know why video games are looked down on while women spending every waking hour glued to their instagram feeds and taking 50 selfies in the fucking bathroom is considered a sign of maturity. Sex and the City was about 4 women in their thirties who behaved like teenagers and they were hailed as heroes. How come no one cluck cluck'ed about why none of them were married with ki…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen11/12/18 05:47 AM
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I don't want to brigade another forum, but I suggest you ask them if a woman would be okay if her man is frugal with spending his money on her, but finds out he used to buy Tiffany necklaces for his former girlfriends, and take them away to Paris and Tahiti for weekend getaways. "But honey, that was a different phase in my life when I was loose with my money. And besides, that stuff is meaningless. I *chose* you! Why are you so upset all of a sudden that we're staying at the Motel 6?"
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen11/12/18 04:42 AM
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Wow. This author has a hamster that fashions itself an English major (I say fashion, because anyone who has *actually* taken writing and composition classes wouldn't write such flowery nonsense). tl;dr: I'm a great lay. I believe so because plenty of guys want to fuck me and whisper "you're a dirty slut" in my ear. It makes me melt. Yet despite how good I think my pussy is, none of these guys are willing to exchange commitment for it. Huh, maybe I'm not such a great package after all? NO WAY. It…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/12/18 07:17 AM
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I really wish young women would read these articles. Yes, they are extreme, but so is Megan Markle marrying a prince. And yet every single woman in the world knows that story, and not a few are basing their life choices on that extreme example. There are maybe half-a-dozen single princes in the world. Here are two examples of women who hanged themselves in their early thirties because they couldn't find a husband and start a family. Why is a mid-thirties woman marrying a prince an "inspiration" …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/12/18 06:49 AM
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It is sad. But we're asking the question why? Why did it have to happen? IMHO, it's far worse to just paper over the root causes and just blame "depression", as if depression just falls out of the sky. Yes, there are people with intractable depression, or intrinsic chemical imbalances, with no known root cause. But these women aren't them. They're telling us exactly what the root cause of their suicide was: they wanted a husband / family, and couldn't find one. It's not disrespecting them or the…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/12/18 06:28 AM
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Please write up the other examples! I'd love to hear them.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/12/18 06:19 AM
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That was the most cringey, beta way of ending this I can imagine. Seriously, if you can't get beyond the weight, either a) work on yourself to change that, or b) embrace your preferences and move on. Either way, apologizing for the way you feel does nothing for either person. It's also a prime example of why a simple message or even ghosting is preferred. The only reason to offer feedback to a person (aka closure) is if it might actually help them change and improve. But it almost never does. No…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen09/12/18 08:30 PM
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Don't forget: you play video games all day
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen09/12/18 08:15 PM
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Most women have no concerns about letting a guy down easy. They claim to do it when physically in a guy's presence because of the fear of violence, but this was over text. There's no fear of anything. And she's not letting him down. She's trying to give him enough vague hope that he sticks around and becomes her orbiter, without giving him any actual commitments that he could hold her to. My advice: hard next. Don't even bother sending a text back. Don't waste time thinking of some pithy comebac…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen08/12/18 09:04 AM
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She's 45 and decided to open a perfectly good marriage? Yeah, BIG MISTAKE. Firstly, a 45 year old mother of multiple kids is highly, highly unlikely to be hot enough to attract even a hot 45 year old, much less some 25 year old stud. Even the ones with a cougar fetish, there are plenty of desperate single, divorced 45 year olds that you can hook up with. No need to navigate some married woman drama to hit that. OTOH, a 49 year old man, if he has a decent job by now, can easily attract sugar babi…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen08/12/18 08:51 AM
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I'm not sure if you're agreeing with me about Franken or not :-) You asked for "A SINGLE case of someone losing a job over harassment allegations without pretty clear evidence of a pattern of guilt." And I gave you Al Franken. Regardless of whether Gillibrand also screwed her 2020 chances (I happen to agree with you there), Franken clearly did not want to resign, but was forced to by the Dem leadership (not just Gillibrand). And this was despite the fact that, IMHO, what he did was maybe stupid …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/18 05:51 AM
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Al Franken? What he was accused of was not harassment. And regardless, his accuser accepted his apology. And yet he was forced to resign his Senate seat.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/18 07:04 AM
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Most of the times, the female supervisors hate having women work for them too. Fired or not, when they eventually leave, those female supervisors will hire guys to replace them. The dirty truth about why women need men to mentor them isn't because of the lack of women in the workplace. It's because women hate each other and have a crab-bucket mentality with other women. Every woman I know hates their female bosses *and* underlings, and prefers working with their male bosses and underlings. To a …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen05/12/18 05:48 AM
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Women are responsible for creating the fear, yet we men are the ones who have to "step up" and "not let fear be a barrier"?? WTF??? Why can't they acknowledge that the fear is real, and propose working together to find a solution that both men and women find acceptable? But no, it's simply that men have to "not let fear be a barrier". GFY. The best way to face a fear is to remove the source of it. Which is what men are doing by stopping any interaction with women. How about when women enter the …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen05/12/18 05:33 AM
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Notice in all this verbiage, that these women and bluepill simps never actually say "here's a clear set of actions and policies that we find acceptable and will protect you from a harassment complaint". It's always vague, stupid advice like "don't be a jerk!". Because they don't have an actual set of concrete actions that are considered harassment. It's all about the feels. If a hot guy slaps her across the ass, she'll giggle and finger herself thinking about it that night. If an ugly guy looks …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen05/12/18 05:28 AM
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I'm confused. Wasn't it feminists who said every man is a rapist (potential, if not actual), made women super afraid of any type of interaction with men (holding the door is a microaggression! You let him do that and next thing you know, he's going to rape you in the elevator!), and insisted on chaperones for everything from medical exams to routine meetings. So when companies finally espouse those beliefs and treat every interaction between a man and a woman as ripe for abuse and a precursor to…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen05/12/18 05:15 AM
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It's not against the grain to wish you had women in your life to help you through rough patches. I have a few female friends and I stay friends with them precisely because I can just as easily call them up and talk to them about my problems as they can do with me. It's great and they're true friends. But the vast majority of women who claim they're "great friends" are nothing of the sort. They want to use you, but if you ask anything of them in return, they scatter. Those women (like the one in …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen05/12/18 04:58 AM
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So is this supposed to be the sequel to Sex and The City? Ride the CC in your youth, have a child out of wedlock, and then become a "glamorous" SMILF? (also, the title is inaccurate. It appears from the trailer that no one actually wants to fuck her...)
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/12/18 11:39 PM
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Woman says: "I've thought about it, and I'm scared of dating you because you mean so much to me that I don't want to do anything that would jeopardize this amazing friendship that we have" Woman means: "I've thought about it, and the idea of having sex with you is so repulsive, I'd rather risk losing this friendship than let you anywhere near my pussy." Make no mistake about it. When an orbiter tries to make the jump to becoming a girl's boyfriend, and she declines, she knows there's a very real…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/12/18 11:27 PM
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Sure, but ask yourself this: would she return the favor? Would she help you through an emotional time, and listen to your sob story for hours? The fact that he texted "you are constantly in crisis" implies that she's the one who's always calling him and sobbing on his shoulder. One-sided friendships, whether with guys or girls, are never good. We never put up with it in guys. And yet we put up with it in girls, either because social conditioning tells us we should always be sacrificing for girls…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/12/18 11:18 PM
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Here's my opinion: I actually agree with you that it's possible to be just friends with a girl. But the problem is that when a guy is young and bluepilled, social programming and your own hormones make it very difficult for guys to "just be friends" with a girl. So rather than risk the incredible heartache that getting friendzone'd entails, it's better to just avoid all friendships with women. Believe it or not, it *is* possible to live quite happily with only guy friends. But once you're able t…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/12/18 09:03 AM
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Sorry, couldn't use the archive service as it kept choking on this article.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/12/18 10:41 PM
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Just because someone is a good person (and he was) does not mean they are the right person for you FOREVER We're not the ones saying that. She is, otherwise she wouldn't be posting about feeling regrets over the consequences of splitting up with him. True, she never says she wants to get back together with him, but she's regretting the consequences of splitting with him, which is just one step removed. If she truly didn't regret or question her decision, her post would be "thank god I avoided th…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/12/18 10:18 PM
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IANAL, but this is almost certainly considered rape. Inmates are considered unable to give consent for pretty much anything due to their severely restricted rights. A prison guard having sex with a prisoner is pretty much prima facie rape (unless the prisoner is the one who forced himself on the guard without consent, which of course would also be rape in the other direction), just like a teacher having sex with a student is rape even if the student wanted it. Of course, if it's female prison gu…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/12/18 09:33 PM
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Yeah, this was huge. They're much more willing to just enjoy the moment, a simple "I like you, you like me, let's see where this leads" rather than a job interview before the first drink. I understand older women may feel pressure to hurry things up but IMHO, nothing kills a potential relationship in its early stages than focusing on a list of dealbreakers rather than spending time finding things you really like about each other. You do that, and all of a sudden, your dealbreakers become a lot m…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/12/18 07:54 PM
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Weird flex but okay. . . Wait, what am I saying?? Nothing weird about it. Flex on! (Dated a few people significantly younger as well. It was awesome. You sometimes forget how much more energy and sunny outlook they have. And that's not even getting to the physical aspects)
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/12/18 01:22 AM
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This is a great point, and why tradthots are still delusional. While they may try attracting an alpha guy in a different way than the usual girl, when they can't get one, they still resort to the same excuses instead of self-reflection and trying to improve themselves. A regular ho might say "I don't get it. I'm a strong, independent womyn. Why can't I find a guy? It must be the guy's fault." A tradthot says "I don't get it. I'm a demure, domesticated housewilfe. Why can't I find a guy? It must …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/11/18 10:51 PM
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I've always said that Entourage was Sex And The City for guys: a fantasy about a close group of guys having the time of their lives, in a cool city, boning different women every episode. I loved Entourage. But here's the difference: most guys know that it's a fantasy. While there may be a few guys living that life in LA (it was based on Mark Wahlberg's early years in Hollywood), the vast, vast majority of guys, even ones in Hollywood, don't live that life. That's why you don't see whiny blogpost…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/11/18 10:41 PM
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The NY Post columnist Julia Allison was covered in a previous WAATGM post: https://www.reddit.com/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen/comments/8ohene/sex_and_the_city_satc_the_hamster_wheel_and_the/ And this quote is laughable: “Cinderella never asked for a prince, she asked for a night off and a dress.” What a way to hamster even a simple fairy tale. No, idiot, the ball was specifically held for the prince to find a wife. Cinderella (just like her stepsisters) wanted to go to the ball to meet the prince an…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/11/18 03:47 PM
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Exactly. All of the things we've historically asked of women in exchange (loyalty, kindness, making a good home, etc.) have been deemed patriarchal and oppressive. If anything, they've been replaced by things women *think* we should want (a woman with a career, "independent", "fat is beautiful", etc.). And they get pissed when we don't agree to the new terms of the trade. And it gets even worse. Even women who don't meet the new feminist ideal's of exchange hamster themselves into thinking they'…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/11/18 03:34 PM
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Dad: "Honey, I'm home." Mom: "Hi sweetie. The house is clean and the kids have finished their homework. Why don't you play with them while I finish up dinner?" WHY IS THERE NO ONE LIKE THIS ANYMORE
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/11/18 01:42 AM
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"Worship your own body and beauty and sexual allure and you will always feel ugly, and when time and age start showing, you will die a million deaths before they finally plant you. " --David Foster Wallace Being admired for anything you didn't achieve yourself ultimately destroys you. It makes you feel unworthy inside, while simultaneously making you unable to enjoy the simpler validation that comes from things you earned yourself. This is true whether it's stunning beauty (90% genetics), massiv…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/11/18 12:27 AM
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What are the chances "sales associate" means some sort of MLM pyramid amway type "job"? Which is probably why she's looking for a wallet to pay her bills so she can move out of her parents' place.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/11/18 10:57 PM
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It's not just bad men they want to fix. For example, women will be attracted to a man that makes a lot of money, then bitch about the fact that he has to work all the time. If he finally submits and cuts down on the hours, with the inevitable loss of income and/or job prestige, she'll complain that he's not providing for her. If a man dates a stripper and then is unhappy that she grinds on strangers all day, guys will rightfully laugh at him and say "you wanted to date a stripper? This goes with…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/11/18 05:06 PM
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Wow. Wow wow wow. Even in my bluest pill days I don't think I ever went that far. What always stopped me was eventually realizing the girl is never as good a friend as you are to her. Nowhere close. When I had a problem, it was my guy friends that would actually listen and cheer me up. The girls that claimed they "love you so much!!!" would be nowhere to be found, or would always turn the conversation to them and their problems even if it was obvious you were hurting and needed someone to talk t…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/11/18 01:00 AM
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Best comment there was this one: My little sister told me an almost mirror copy of this story. She is 31 and never really focused on settling down. She told me she feels hopeless because men of higher value that she wants to date, will mostly go for women in their 20's. Her words were something along the lines of "I feel like my friends that are the happiest are the ones who settled down with children. I feel like all my single friends are miserable and encouraged me down this path." That's a lo…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen22/11/18 05:29 AM
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I think I just threw up a little in my mouth. Here's the thing: for people already in your life, e.g. family, friends, spouse, children, etc. I 100% agree that when they face challenges in life, you should be there for them. Even stuff like drug addiction, or mental health issues, whatever, once you've made a commitment to a person you should help them through their tough times even if that causes pain for you (that obligation isn't unlimited, of course, but it's there). But for people who are n…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/11/18 06:51 PM
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Being a law student, she's now probably exposed to actual lawyers all the time (e.g. professors, practicing lawyers who come to lecture and hold clinics, etc.) who of course all make more money and are higher in the pecking order than her bf. She dreams about the high-powered partners arguing tough cases and making a million dollars. That's the type of boring shit that's sexy to a law student. And they probably flirt with her as well (while hiding their wedding rings). So of course, she loses al…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/11/18 03:55 AM
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Thanks for the feedback! It was my first post so I wasn't sure what was required, but I'll try revising it and submitting again.
/r/WhereAllTheGoodMenAre20/11/18 06:50 PM
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I can't help but think part of this is fallout from #metoo. I mean, prior to that, even if an apple tart was store bought, if someone at work offered to share one, almost everyone would crowd around for a piece. Nothing romantic or sexual about it. It was just food, and an excuse to gather around the water cooler, have a snack, and goof off for a few minutes. But now, it seems like the guys in her workplace want absolutely nothing to do with her. Even an offer of a piece of tart is viewed with s…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/11/18 02:30 AM
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IMHO, the femcel phenomenon comes from the fact that a woman who can't find a guy gets sympathy (from other women, beta males, society in general, etc.). Therefore, they play that role to get that sympathy. See, there are 3 states that a girl can be in: 1) Find a great guy, get commitment, etc. This is of course, what everyone wants. But not everyone has. If you *don't* have this, then you have two options: 2) Keep dating / meeting / screwing guys until you find one that commits to you. 3) Stop …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen16/11/18 04:14 AM
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In a relationship for 8 years and now separated? I'm guessing she's been out of the market for a while and doesn't realize just how much her SMV has cratered. If you're 32, somewhat attractive, and only looking for hookups, you can probably still get 8/10 Chads to pump-n-dump you. When you get to 40 and looking like her, even horny guys have better options. Not to say no one will take her up on her offer, but I'm guessing she's expecting her inbox to be flooded with bare-chested men and dick pic…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen16/11/18 03:47 AM
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Too many guys are intimidated by strong women. Jesus. When will this trope die? Here's a hint sweetheart: in my line of work I deal with actual strong people of all types: from *truly* intimidating brilliant people all the way to assholes and psychopaths, in a high stakes environment where being wrong or weak can literally mean the difference between life or death. I do fine, and indeed thrive in the challenge of managing all the strong personalities in my workplace. Thinking that because you ha…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/11/18 09:59 PM
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I would add, maybe as a corollary to #2, that women have forgotten (or willfully denied) what men find attractive in women. It's pretty stupendous. First, they turn over the fashion industry to women and gay men, neither of whom generally find women attractive, and are surprised when they come up with ridiculous fashion trends and body ideals (waif look, anyone?) that most heterosexual men don't find attractive. Then they decry that these beauty ideals damage women. Umm... we heterosexual men ar…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/11/18 09:43 PM
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What's the chance that after being cared for by Austin, she's feeling good enough to go back and fuck the boy that made her sad? I'm sure he'll thank you Austin, as he's inside her while you're rubbing one out tonight staring at her IG feed. Alone.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/11/18 08:19 PM
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Even shorter tl;dr: She let herself go during her twenties, riding the CC and not realizing how fast she was dropping in good qualities. She's now 32, finds herself fat, single mom, in a dead end job (her words), having never worked out her childhood traumas or mental illness (bipolar). Instead of "womaning up" and starting the long, hard road to improve herself, with a side benefit that this would make her more attractive to a potential mate, she writes a sob story on reddit looking for sympath…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/11/18 07:35 AM
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she is willing to cook, clean, and take care of the children or get a job if needed. She most definitely did not say those things. She said she wants to *have* children, and will be a "homemaker". I bet dollars to donuts her conception of being a rich surgeon's "homemaker" is to hire two nannies, a fulltime maid, and a live-in chef. She'll expect that her main work in life will be done when she's popped out the kids. Note, she'll still bitch about how much work she does, and complain that "as a …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/11/18 12:13 AM
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Wait, she has over 200 matches on Bumble and she's complaining that she can't get dates??? Also, if I'm not mistaken, *the whole point* of Bumble is that the women take the initiative. Women bitch that on other OLD apps, the guys are too forward / aggressive / creepy, so Bumble took the tact of forcing women to make the first move, and then women go on it and complain that taking initiative and arranging dates is actually harder than they thought. That people play games and don't commit even to …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/11/18 03:10 PM
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That video deserves its own post! A woman, matchmaker even, who gets it!
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen05/11/18 03:35 AM
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It'll just be social failure. Look at Japan's plummeting birth rate and marriage rate.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/11/18 05:17 PM
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Yeah, I can't stand women who say they find woody allen attractive. His money and fame are what are attractive. There are plenty of guys with his looks, nerdy shtick, and quirks but without the money, fame, and hollywood power, and they can't get dates. Women aren't lining up to date them. Also, Alan Alda played a military surgeon in wartime who saved lives but was also a womanizing rebel within his MASH unit. *that's* what made him sexy. Hardly a new age sensitive man. ​
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/11/18 05:15 PM
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TIL :-) Thanks for the tip. Does this mean in other states that you can live and have kids together without getting married and you wouldn't have to divide common assets, etc. if you decide to split? How does it work? ​
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/11/18 02:29 AM
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I'm going to take the contrarian position and criticize the guy for a sec. Firstly, IANAL, but I believe that most states don't give 2 shits whether you have a piece of paper calling you married or not. After several years of cohabiting, you are considered common-law married, and every obligation that a formally married couple has will be placed on you as well. So his wanting to protect his pension by not marrying her but still living together (going so far as having a wedding ceremony), is stup…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/11/18 01:30 AM
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The more I read about the modern female the more I start to think it wasn't a snake that convinced Eve to bite into the apple, she just blamed it. This is gold! I'm going to be re-using it if you don't mind :-) ​
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/11/18 09:54 PM
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The Library of Alexandria was burned down before its valuable contents could be saved, thereby destroying many important documents that we miss to this day. Thankfully, this forum is archiving the best of datingoverthirty for future guys to read :-)
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/11/18 09:39 PM
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Reminds me of this article from slate star codex: http://slatestarcodex.com/2014/08/31/radicalizing-the-romanceless/ tl;dr: when nice guys point out a real problem or express their genuine pain about it, it doesn't really help to demonize them or you end up radicalizing them against your cause...
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/11/18 09:35 PM
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This. There can be some starving women in a war-torn conflict zone who were forced to prostitute themselves so they could eat. Or sex-trafficked girls from eastern europe who are forced into sex work under threat of harm to themselves or their family back home. They have my utmost sympathy. But barring those circumstances, in this country, no girl is "forced" to do porn. She can get a job at mcdonald's, or even go on welfare. She won't starve. She'll have some sort of roof over her head. If she …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/11/18 08:48 PM
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Because women make shitty friends, even to each other. Friendship is based on concepts like loyalty and sacrifice. Those are masculine traits, and are largely alien to most women. That's why concepts like frenemies is a thing in the female world but completely non-existent in the male world. Can you imagine a guy saying something like "Oh, we're BFFs! Squee!!" one moment, and then turn around and say "I hate that bitch" a second later? Even women who proclaim each other BFFs, while they may spen…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/11/18 08:14 PM
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The most disturbing part is that it seems she's actively hoping this guy fails so that "he'll have to come crawling back to her". It's one thing to regret making a bad choice and move on and wish the guy well. But to actively hope he fails in his dreams?? Just so you have a shot with him? And that's what you call your true love? That's f'ed up... ​
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/10/18 07:46 PM
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All the self improvement talk is only in order to be more desirable to women. You only improve in ways society and women enjoy. Yes, but if you're reading TRP, the assumption is, you *want* to be desirable to women. We can bitch all we want about why women find what they find attractive, but that part isn't in our power to change. TRP says, *assuming you want to attract women*, this is the way to go about doing it, not the usual bluepill ways of being a nice guy. Now, if you say you're not inter…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/10/18 07:17 PM
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Yeah, that part was pretty crappy. In fairness, they proposed taxing *all* digital media entertainment, which I took to include female time wasters like instagram as well. Also, they ended up concluding that such a tax is unlikely to fly and it's far more likely that the production deficit would be made up with automation, which is a more reasonable conclusion.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/10/18 04:40 AM
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So I guess it's okay then for guys to say "I never wanted to buy my previous girlfriends Tiffany necklaces and Gucci handbags, or take them out to fancy restaurants. The only reason I did all that was because I just wanted someone to love me and care about me. Yes, I understand there's a video of me on vacation at the Four Seasons in Tahiti with an old girlfriend, somewhere I've never taken you, but I never wanted to vacation there. And even if I did take her there on a first class ticket, it wa…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/10/18 04:34 AM
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I gotta disagree with the title. I read the whole paper. It actually has some interesting points about how the cost of leisure goods is plummeting while the cost of conspicuous consumption is increasing to the point where it's no longer worth participating in conspicuous consumption unless you're in the top 20% of income earners. Therefore, people are no longer incentivized to work more hours because leisure needs are now cheaper to meet, and there's very little to gain from entering the conspic…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/10/18 03:51 AM
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Agreed. I was going to say the original post needs to add an additional assumption: the definition of "good". What men think constitutes "goodness" in men, and what women think are vastly different.
/r/WhereAllTheGoodMenAre30/10/18 12:58 AM
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It's even worse. She doesn't even believe he's a bad man: Why did I love him? I don’t know if he is a bad person. Is he? I feel sad that I haven’t met the right man Actually, you have found the right man. The right man for you. The one you want. The one you chose over all the other men who've wanted to date you (Assuming you are indeed a fun, attractive person as you state you are). This is your choice. He's not forcing you against your will. The first step is to understand *why* you choose men …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/10/18 06:09 PM
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Totally agree. A "phase" is something that is of no real lasting consequence. Liking certain music, or fashion trends, or sporting a weird hairdo can be "phases" because they can be easily changed and there's no real lasting effect. OTOH, dating a bunch of "thugs" when you're young has lifelong effects, not the least being you wasted your prime years with guys who weren't long-term matches, leaving you scrambling when you're older. That's not a phase. Maybe you still "grow out of it" e.g. change…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/10/18 06:10 AM
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I won't lie. That's actually pretty cool. Have an upvote. I guess it's how an American speaker can tell a Scandinavian speaker even in his writing because even though the words are "English" the idioms are all off.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen22/10/18 03:19 AM
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You know what's ridiculous? Most of these white suburban girls raised in absolute safety and comfort have no idea what criminals are actually like. They get their ideas from TV and movies where criminals are super smart, clever, good looking, and still have a gentle side for their girlfriend / kids / mom / etc. It's actually such a common thing it's a named trope in script writing called 'pet the cat' where the villain must always have a moment between his evil deeds to literally pet a cat to sh…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/10/18 08:23 AM
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I go for white women...and there are plenty of takers since you break the "societal" mold of what women think Asian men are like. You become unique. Yep. I've found the same thing. I'm South Asian, and if you're not the stereotypical dorky computer nerd but actually a sociable, fun guy, white women glom onto you. I actually find it's easier to date white women than Indian, because while you still represent the "traditional" guy to an Indian woman that's been rebelling against that all her life, …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/10/18 09:59 AM
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Agree with this. I'm not white, and I've dated plenty of white women, along with latinas, asians, african americans, etc. I don't care what race the woman is, as long as I'm attracted to her and she seems like a good person. I won't date a single mother because I don't have kids myself and I'm looking to start a family, and not fix someone else's family drama. But that said, if I find a truly amazing woman but who happens to have a child, then maybe I'd consider it. And if I were to do that, I'd…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen13/10/18 12:59 AM
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Wow. Every single point in this article is wrong on multiple levels. It takes hard work, and a lot of hamstering, to get to the level of mental contortions needed to actually believe her words. Of all of them, I'll mention just one as an example of how logically incoherent her arguments are: As Bolick writes, when there’s an imbalance in the gender ratio, the gender with the smaller amount automatically has a higher value, which makes that gender want to work even harder to make themselves a hot…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/10/18 03:14 AM
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Or it's a new take on AF/BB :-) OTOH, she's 20 and "some college" probably means she's still in school, which makes her most likely a LUG: lesbian until graduation. She's going through her "experimentation" phase since that's what all the cool chicks do these days to virtue signal that they're hip with gender fluidity, violating sexual norms, yadda yadda yadda. After she graduates and needs to find someone to pay her bills, she'll go back to looking for guys. ​
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen11/10/18 06:59 PM
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Holy shit. She's a hard, hard 30. Her entire face is a botoxed mask (watch her forehead, it literally never moves), with injected lips and more. She admits to having a plastic surgeon at *21*. And if you want to see what her real skin looks like (without 10 lbs of caked on makeup), look below her neck. She's well on her way to corinthian leather status. If she didn't say she's turning 30, I'd have expected her to be more the age of the Real Housewives of OC/NJ/whatever. She's about to find out t…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen09/10/18 03:40 AM
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This is incredible. Not just her profile, but that there's a site for this. Do guys not realize that unless you go through a true, anonymous, licensed sperm donor bank, you put yourself at lifelong risk of paternity suits, child support, and worse? Even if the woman signs a contract not to go after you, that contract doesn't waive the child's right to sue you after they're born, and it certainly doesn't waive the govt's ability to make their own determination of whether you have parental respons…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/10/18 09:59 PM
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I've noted this too. I used to hold doors open for everyone, often letting people (men, women, whatever) go through before me, and everyone thanked me, even if it was just a smile and a head nod. But young women stopped doing so probably ~5 years ago. I'm not looking for any acknowledgement for such a simple basic courtesy, so I didn't really care or notice, but when I started reading about how so many women actually think it's some kind of insult or veiled aggression and other such nonsense, I'…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/10/18 09:34 PM
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+1 for at least being honest that she's 16 and literal jailbait. She could have just left it at 18 and then blackmail anyone 18+ who decides to take her up on her offer. Of course, depending on state, 16 may be legal, so perhaps she's good to go. Clutch off, 1st gear engaged :-)
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen05/10/18 05:10 AM
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In these posts, you have to read what is not being said or what's being glossed over. She claims she's being discriminated against because *she's* not allowed to present it during a *review*. However, she glosses over the fact that she makes them "along with a male co-worker". I suspect at best her contribution is 50/50, and perhaps even less than that, because if she did more than 50/50, she wouldn't even mention the male co-worker. So he has every right to share credit in this shared presentat…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen05/10/18 04:55 AM
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Best part about them thinking they're intimidating is their actual degrees. The young one majored in media studies, and the older one has 2 degrees in English & German and Social Policy. Umm... don't worry girls: your pool of intellectual equals and superiors is a lot, lot larger than you think it is... Maybe it's something else? Like that bringing up Jeremy Corbyn in a first date violates the rule of never talk about politics when you first meet someone? Or that a woman who thinks she's intelle…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/09/18 06:09 AM
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Watch at 1:35: After the guest drones on and on about how much she wants an "intelligent" man, and "intellectual" conversations during her dates, the male host asks "Who's your ideal guy?" And the female host asks "Einstein?", and of course, all the women have a good chuckle before the guest replies definitively, "No." Don't those host realize? You're not supposed to listen to her words. She's not *actually* into intelligent guys. Nor guys who were so erudite that their bon mots are still quoted…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/09/18 05:45 AM
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but it's all good because she feels weird, no need to judge her Note: she thinks it's totally okay to fantasize about a famous actor, just not about "regular people". IOW, the crime isn't that you're thinking about someone who's not your current partner. It's that your thinking about a "regular person". Hypergamy in action.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/09/18 05:27 AM
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the overall value of women is going to plummet drastically unless these modern thots learn to be useful human beings Not unless they can get restrictions imposed, the equivalent of tariffs on free trade. How about a $100 "sin tax" on every encounter with a sex doll, to go to supporting all those poor women who are no longer able to marry a betabuxx guy? Best of both worlds for women: don't have to have sex with him, and you still get his money... ​
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/09/18 05:04 AM
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I think women may actually be smarter about this than they're letting on: they're not freaking out about loser NiceGuys(tm) that they wouldn't touch with a 10 foot pole. Those guys are invisible, and what they do with their lives is of no concern to women. But what women understand is, those sex dolls are only going to get better. And at some point, guys that *do* have a healthy sex life (or could have one), will start choosing sex dolls as well. And that's when women will feel the pinch. Better…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/09/18 04:57 AM
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TRP predicts this: the guy stops applying dread game, and she's no longer interested. A girl wants to know that you always have options, and that there's always a chance she could lose you. Even when you're married, she needs to know that you're still desired by other women and that if she ever left you, you could have 10 other women in your bed that same night and never look back. (Note, as a guy, this doesn't mean you're supposed to cheat in an LTR. It just means your girlfriend needs to know …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/09/18 04:34 AM
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The thing that strikes me about the original article is her default presumption that she's now older and wiser after all her "experience". Getting older is guaranteed for everyone. Getting wiser is not. You have to work at that. It doesn't just happen automatically. This girl is older, but definitely not wiser. She doesn't even indicate that she thinks dating bad boys was a mistake. It's just something she's "over" now, like a band you get sick of hearing, or a fashion trend that dies off. Nothi…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/09/18 04:23 AM
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She says "There's some people I'd be open to hooking up with and there's others that I'd look at as relationship material". But yet she wants to force guys to put it in their bio sight unseen. She can't understand that guys can be the same way: open to a relationship with a really great girl, open to hooking up with a less attractive girl. The answer to her question of why this question isn't in bios is actually staring her in the face, but since it takes looking in a mirror, she doesn't see it.…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/09/18 04:02 PM
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It's not enough to be "aware" of the problem. You have to do something about it. Everyone knows being fat is unhealthy, even fat people. The question is, do you get off your ass and change with that knowledge, or do you dig yourself further into denial and refuse to change *even with* your newfound knowledge? This woman is the latter. Yes, she recognizes her own hypergamy. Does she say that now that she recognizes how damaging it can be, that she's going to reject it and find a good man who does…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/09/18 06:37 AM
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True. I was just saying that common or rare, I understand orientation and religion being dealbreakers, and making it easy to filter on that can be helpful. But an app that enables you to filter on unrealistic dealbreakers like dietary choices and hobbies is actually harming your dating life.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen15/09/18 06:42 PM
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Here's her video through the wamyn translator: "I started online dating when I was 22... because this app called Tinder came out". Tinder came out in 2012 and hit its peak ~2014. That puts her age at between 26-28 i.e. she's now noticing her SMV declining on those apps, but hasn't yet realized she's close to hitting the wall. So when tinder isn't working anymore, she blames online dating rather than herself losing value rapidly. "[at 22] I'd never really gone on a date...I'd never even kissed a …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen15/09/18 01:22 PM
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Umm... Men have a 3-5x higher suicide rate than women. Among people that commit suicide, women are more likely to have seen some sort of mental health professional. So maybe the problem is depression is underdiagnosed in men, because we're told we should just suck it up? Of all the BS women spout about toxic masculinity, this is maybe the only area where there is some validity to their thesis. While I think it's healthy to have a certain amount of stoicism in the face of adversity, it's also imp…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen15/09/18 05:02 AM
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Also important in the search, “a larger choice set means people have a greater chance of finding a match, especially if they are looking for something hard to find — like a same-sex partner, or a partner who is a vegetarian mountain climbing Catholic,” Rosenfeld explains. I understand the same-sex partner, and the religion thing. But having a social app that enables you to easily make stupid dealbreaker lists like "must be vegetarian mountain climber" probably isn't doing anyone any favors.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen15/09/18 04:54 AM
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They're called dildos. Isn't it weird that feminist women are totally fine with dildos and vibrators, turning them into a completely mainstream, shame-free thing to use to get off. But guys' devices like fleshlights and now these sex dolls freak them out and they seek to shame men for using them? Woman who uses a dildo: What a way to own your sexuality! You go grrl! Man who uses a sex doll: Eww. What kind of a loser freak virgin incel uses a sex doll? Must be he can't find a Real Woman(tm)! What…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen15/09/18 04:38 AM
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I don't know Ariana's story, but if it's true that the person she left was a drug addict that she stayed with for several years trying to get him help, then I think using the word toxic to describe the relationship is appropriate. That doesn't excuse all the other times it's thrown around lightly though. And, IMHO, she was right to leave. This isn't someone going through depression, or a job loss, or something like that. It's addiction that she tried to help him with and he just couldn't resolve…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/09/18 06:33 AM
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Eh, she's doing them a favor by rejecting them quickly and without ambiguity right at the start. No man in their right mind would sign up for a night of having to play nice with strangers and being paraded around with no sex or even a chance at a future relationship, especially for free. These guys are NiceGuys. If she just continued the joke, I could see the guys thinking "Wow, she found me amusing. Maybe if I keep at this I could be her *real* boyfriend instead of a pretend one! I'm going to g…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/09/18 06:14 AM
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/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/09/18 06:07 AM
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Yeah, the only female friends who will introduce you to quality women are friends that *can't* date you for some reason (e.g. your guy friends' wives and gfs, or your sister / cousin / etc.). In my experience, there's an easy way to tell: when a woman tells you something general like "We need to find you a woman" without actually specifying someone specific, more often than not, that means she's attracted to you, and she will not actually set you up with her friends because she doesn't want to s…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen08/09/18 10:07 AM
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You're lucky she didn't mention you on the posts. It means you could still change your image around other women. If you were tagged, and any future prospective date checked your facebook and saw how badly friendzoned you were, she'd either cancel the date, or figure she could get the same betabux treatment from you. She did you a favor :-) ​
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen08/09/18 09:59 AM
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Since the women's cartel collapsed, women's bargaining power has seriously eroded. Wait, did she just come out in favor of slut shaming? B/c that's how the cartel was enforced before, no? ​ It may take a village to raise a child. But it takes a village to raise a husband, too. Actually, it really only takes two parents, a mother and father. But don't tell that to all the "empowered" single mothers who You Go Grrl! themselves into believing divorcing their husbands and not letting them near their…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen05/09/18 04:05 AM
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Yep. There's even a term for that. It's called getting your MRS degree...
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen05/09/18 03:56 AM
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Wait, so if a study shows that those men with kids who you "cover for" are shown to make less money than you while being in equivalent positions, does that mean they're being paid less because they're men? If their bonus is less because they don't put in the hours you do, or decline tough projects so they can go home and spend time with their family, they're being oppressed? ​
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen05/09/18 03:51 AM
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This. It's like trying to explain poverty to a billionaire. It's just unfathomable at their level. For example, hot girls who get hit on all the time at parties, if you press them, might admit that as they get older, fewer guys will hit on them. What they can't comprehend is that ain't the half of it: they won't even get invited to the party. I've seen this with hot girls before: the drop in attention is so far and comes on so fast it leaves them shell shocked. And the biggest shock isn't that n…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen31/08/18 12:55 AM
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Doubt it. This isn't genuine emotion. It's a humble brag: "I have guys willing to give me the world" Combined with throwing a little bone to all her orbiters to keep them thinking they still have a chance "I know she's been a bitch to me for 5 years, but now she's on the verge of changing and finally recognizing me! I should keep buying her stuff!" And topped off with a call to all the Capt. Save-a-ho's: "Pls help. I don't deserve to be loved." ​ If she really had an epiphany and is feeling adri…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/08/18 08:41 AM
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This. She readily identifies a bunch of stuff that she could fix (fat, messy apartment, socially awkward, nerd) but then refuses to fix it. And then she's surprised that the only guys she attracts are losers. Where do women get this idea that there are tons of great guys all around, whereas even crappy women are all rare, precious snowflakes? Oh yeah, feminism. And their 20s, when lots of hot guys chase anything that moves which gives girls a false impression that they're all hot shit and good g…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/08/18 09:37 AM
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That blog post has even more gold to be mined: Every time I start dating a new guy and come home all giggly and fully butterflied, my brother tells me he gives it 3 months. You see 3 months is apparently the max amount of time I can be happy with the same man. IOW, even your own brother thinks you're a flaky thot who's looking for the next horse on the carousel as soon as the initial tingles are over. And you think you're ready for a marriage? My guy friends used to ask me why I insisted on dati…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/08/18 11:23 PM
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Hey now. Her dog looks like he'd be fun to play with.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/08/18 08:04 PM
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Holy cow. It's another wonderlandgirl post! :-) I like reading them now just to see how far she'll go in her attempts to fend off any insight from penetrating her defense shields. Does she really not see the vibe she's giving off? Even through the internet, a thousand miles away, I can feel it. If you truly like someone, you don't think you're dating "down". Sure, you might acknowledge that they're physically less attractive than you, or make less money than you, but the *overall* package should…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/07/18 02:58 AM
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I clicked on that letter assuming I'd get to see at least some justification for why dating a single mom might be awesome. I wouldn't buy it, but I'd like to see that argument made just once. Maybe things like "after living with a 5 year old, I'll never complain about how messy your man cave is". Or even something serious like "after having a child, I've learned just how deeply I can love another human being, and how amazing that can be, so I can love you more deeply than a woman without childre…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/07/18 07:37 AM
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Plus, even if it's true, those women conveniently forget that that woman's peak at 35 is probably still lower than most guys level of libido probably all the way until guys hit 60 or something. Women have no idea what hormones do to an 18 year old guy. Not even that 35 year old woman supposedly at her peak. Besides, I don't understand: I thought woman slut it up in their 20s because they want sex just as much as guys and shouldn't be shamed for it, but then want to "settle down, get married, hav…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/07/18 04:58 PM
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I'd go further. To make matters worse, just as her value is declining, what she's asking for isn't the same as what she wanted in her 20s, it's *more*. She's asking for commitment. Comparing a 20s woman looking to have fun vs. a 30s woman looking to commit is a double whammy. You're less attractive *and* you're asking for something more valuable. The truth is, even for a hot 20-something woman, getting a man to commit can be hard. Even if she's truly serious about finding a good guy, doesn't rid…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/07/18 03:43 PM
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I think I read another one of her posts cross-posted here a few weeks ago. She's either a troll or so messed in the head that I would gnaw my fingers off if I was with her. First off, I bet the men she "dates down" with aren't really all that down the scales. She states that she's willing to overlook looks, money, and even personality, but I bet she means *not at the same time*. You can have one imperfection and that's all she'll tolerate (while congratulating herself on being so open-minded). T…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/07/18 07:07 AM
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