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-5

Meh. No you don't. Just don't be a grouch. Women are simply not attracted to grouches... unless they are rich and famous. The thing with women is they know how to tell if you are going to be a resentful grouch even if you have not been one with her. They look at how you react to them, how much good energy you have inside, how sensitive you are, and thats enough to know if you would be some grouchy bitch.
/r/seduction04/08/18 02:30 PM
1

Im sure there are other things which you're good at that those guys are not, and there are girls who will be interested in you because of that.
/r/seduction24/02/17 01:11 PM
1

They get nervous when they like the guy.
/r/seduction27/01/17 06:31 PM
-1

You are missunderstanding this. Women will rationalize their attraction, they will not ask you to give them a reason to be attracted to you, directly or indirectly. I hope you're not trying to figure out "reasons" that you can give a woman to like you, you will be going the opposite way of where you should be going. If you disagree with this statement then you are being logical, which doesn't play a part in attraction. Also, when a woman is interested, she will try to hide her flaws (her age) an…
/r/seduction11/12/16 07:55 AM
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A reason for what? Attraction is not logical, it doesnt need a reason. If anything, older women will try to ignore the age difference, and most importantly, will try to make YOU forget about it. Women just need a guy that holds his own reality no matter what she throws at him, they do not want a guy who reacts with a witty line to everything they spew out of their mouth.
/r/seduction11/12/16 07:26 AM
1

"Assumed", maybe, "hoped", yes.
/r/seduction10/10/16 08:54 PM
1

Looking at your handle i now understand you are being sarcastic. Touche.
/r/seduction09/10/16 07:34 PM
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I dont know if you're being serious or not, but if you are: relax man.
/r/seduction09/10/16 07:32 PM
5

Its difficult not to refer to them as unwanted fish when we're comparing pickup to fishing. I didnt mean to objectify a woman. I'm not the type to do that. By get rid i mean simply going thru the dating process to realize what you knew all along, that even tho she's a hot girl that "took the bait" your personalities dont match at all and you have to next her or vice versa.
/r/seduction09/10/16 03:16 PM
2

While I agree that most PUAs are fishers, I would argue for being a hunter. As a hunter, you look for the pray you want, this means skipping those which would waste your time (including hot girls with values that don't match yours). Once you spot your prey, you lure them in, but you don't want to startle them. (Most guys would push for "being direct from the start", but their success ratio is usually lower than the average guy's) Taking the fishing mentality is inefficient and there's little ski…
/r/seduction09/10/16 02:05 PM
1

They turn into douches because of the state of their relationship with themselves.
/r/seduction21/07/16 04:14 AM
2

Its interesting that most guys will stare at girls when they're not looking, but will avoid eye contact with the same girl. Perfect example of hiding your intentions.
/r/seduction20/06/16 01:41 PM
7

You are looking away out of reflex, the same way that you flinch when someone pretends to hit you. Thw only way to avoid it is by making a conscious effort to not look away. You really have to fight the instinct.
/r/seduction19/06/16 08:05 PM
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Reading this question makes me think that you already know you will have a hard time communicating with this girl. Anyways, my 2 cents: girls dont give a shit about your questions, they give a shit about your persinality. So focus on getting rid of your need to be perfect, your need to impress, and all the other garbage that hides your personality.
/r/seduction04/04/16 11:04 PM
1

You dont have to enter your email to read it. Still: http://sexystyleforjoe.com/focus-on-the-fundamentals-not-the-girl/
/r/seduction30/01/16 04:49 PM
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They just want you to think they're not sluts thats all.
/r/seduction01/12/15 07:55 PM
4

The fact that you call her beautiful so many times tells me that beauty was the most important thing she had to offer to you. Because of this I bet she also gave you a sense of self worth and was your source of happiness. You've put her on a pedestal, you didnt care about the girl as a person you only cared about the way she made you feel, as that guy who can has a beautiful girl, so you needed her in your life to continue being thay guy, and this was a deadly mistake. Always imagine your life w…
/r/seduction18/08/15 12:18 PM
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You can still hook up with them just dont act like thats all you came for (even tho it most likely is). Most guys are stupid and needy when it comes to tinder. The ones that get laid consistently are the ones that treat seduction like hunting game. They move slowly and quietly until they are close enough to the prey that the chances of escape are very small. Move too quickly and they will get startled.
/r/seduction17/05/15 07:12 PM
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I agree. For every person, there are certain personality types that arent attractive to them. Some guys, specially many in the community, think that they should be able to attract any girl once they becone good at this. Its just a unattainable goal. There are girls who simply will not like your personality type at all. And most of all you will not like theirs either. Even if you have great game it will be a short lived uphill battle. Not worth it. Learn the personality types that attract you the…
/r/seduction20/03/15 12:26 PM
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After a while you learn to gauge it naturally. Its hard for me to tell you signs 1,2, and 3 of a shy girl who mihht be interested... because they are hard to gauge. Shy girls are consciously trying to not give any signs of interest. So its mission impossible. But I can tell you that with most girls, the most reliable way to tell if she likes what she sees is with longer than normal eye contact. While many girls might give you eye contact, the ones that are interested will give you eye contact th…
/r/seduction11/02/15 01:10 PM
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Well doesnt really matter how much u speak to her she has a bf and she thought it necessary to let you know. Do whatever you want, but dont expect to hook up with thks chick
/r/seduction07/02/15 12:26 AM
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No idea what that means but good luck man
/r/seduction29/01/15 05:40 AM
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The reason why most guys fall in the friend zone is because they don't act proactively. They think the girl will become attracted just because he's a guy. So they sit the trying to not get rejected by her. In reality you have to strike while iron is hot. Use seduction tools when she's giving you interest, don't wait until shit is going bad to start using seduction.
/r/seduction27/01/15 07:09 PM
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Ignoring doesn't work in a vacuum. You must first create interest, then take it away. The void that is created by your withdrawal serves to make her think of you and be curious of what happened to you. The mere fact that you are occupying her mind works in your favor by amplifying her emotional investment. The biggest thing that stops guys from ignoring a girl to amplify the attraction, is that they think she will become mad at him for ignoring her. The truth is, 1. she doesn't control you and y…
/r/seduction27/01/15 07:01 PM
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Smile and ignore it by quickly moving on to another topic. If they insist on getting a response from you, you can respond with "I wish". Then quickly move on to another topic. The key is to not to react and ignore their judgements of you.
/r/seduction27/01/15 06:55 PM
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Um yeah i would be very surprised if anything happened here. Unless they are into some very weird stuff.
/r/seduction24/01/15 11:25 PM
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Aa will come back from time to time. But everytime it will be weaker and weaker. But you absolutely should take seasonal breaks from pickup
/r/seduction24/01/15 02:08 AM
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Good example of why i stay away from "the community" and do pickup on my own. PUAs like to get into discussions and analysis of simple, common sense rules. Doesnt matter why it works or where it came from, it works now fucking go do it and stop analysing it.
/r/seduction23/01/15 01:31 PM
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It depends on the time of year. In the spring and summer i do daygame 3 times a week at least, in the winter maybe 1 day and some weeks i dont even daygame, but i go out out 1 to 2 nights a week. I find that coming back to pick up after taking a break gives you great results, probably due to the lack of pressure to perform. Thats true for me for everything I learn, getting away from it completely for a few weeks or months makes me be beter at it once I come back. So dont feel too bad if you are …
/r/seduction23/01/15 01:26 PM
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Well for future reference u should go eat a dick.
/r/seduction07/01/15 01:35 PM
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I always had a problem with the community's push for poligamy. As you state, men ARE wired to have multiple sex partners, but they are also wired to kill their fathers and make love to their mothers (according to Sig Freud). I for one think that in the big scheme of things, poligamy is antisocial behavior in the sense that its bad for the well being and strength of a society.
/r/seduction07/01/15 01:16 AM
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No. Im saying it can take a while to get u fixed
/r/seduction06/01/15 08:46 PM
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Ok so thats the reason. You used to watch a lot of porn and the effects are still lingering. A lot of porn induced sexual problems take more than just 90 days to solve.
/r/seduction06/01/15 08:12 PM
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Do u watch a lot of porn?
/r/seduction06/01/15 03:32 PM
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You cant escalate without the possibility of getting rejected. Besides, whats so bad about rejection if shes not down anyways?
/r/seduction04/01/15 04:03 PM
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Are you sure you've been gaming since the 90's? There are are way too many rookie behaviors and mistakes in your posts.
/r/seduction04/01/15 04:01 PM
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Text her the day before
/r/seduction04/01/15 03:56 PM
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I hear that argument a lot. I really dont find doing this all that exhausting, I actually find it enjoyable because it keeps me focused. I feel that when I get distracted I become beta and the girl slowly starts taking control. Even the times that it does get a little annoying, say when you cut contact with a girl for a while or do anything you dont want to do at the moment but should do, those few hours or days of discomfort are way better than losing the girl because you did not keep your focu…
/r/seduction31/12/14 08:12 PM
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Exactly.
/r/seduction31/12/14 06:40 PM
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Although sometimes is difficult to avoid a routine, there are always things u can do to avoid a full blown routine. This is why its good to have a life outside the relationship, but if you dont have one, then you will have to resort to making up excuses to break the routine.
/r/seduction31/12/14 06:40 PM
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So then you are looking for dullness.
/r/seduction31/12/14 04:56 PM
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The article assumes you have already built attraction, so the chances of her leaving are minimal. At the same time you should always be risking losing her as this communicates abundance of choice and usually makes them stay.
/r/seduction31/12/14 01:35 PM
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Take me to jail! Throw away the key! I ain't scared to get butt ra... ehm... Yea I figure I risk spending a few years in a feminazi concentration camp. I regret nothing.
/r/seduction31/12/14 04:45 AM
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You develop an eye for them. The thing about slutty girls is that they usually have their guard up high, unless they really like you.
/r/seduction31/12/14 02:55 AM
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In same situation, I think most people are like this. Its not that you are very attractive to some and very unattractive to others, but more like some people will exaggerate things. How I know a girl finds me attractive depends on how flirty the girl is or how much in touch she is with her feminine side. But for the most part, a girl who finds me attractive will give me a little bit more attention in a social gathering than to other people. Also, a girl who holds eye contact or shakes my hand a …
/r/seduction31/12/14 02:51 AM
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From what i read there wasnt any type of kino escalation leading to the kiss attempts. Did you have your arms around her? Or were you holding/ massaging her hand? Some girls need to get warmed up before you kiss them.
/r/seduction19/12/14 11:26 AM
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I agree. I feel like this wouldnt work on all women only those that are above average in looks because they always get their way. So when a guy comes and does not do that it can have a powerful effect. Not trying to be insulting of your looks but thats reality.
/r/seduction17/12/14 09:12 PM
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So you expect a guy to always say yes to you? Thats conflicting with having a life. I didnt say treat her like crap, but thats it okto let her get angry.
/r/seduction17/12/14 08:40 PM
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Yes, if you have not created attraction first then they have no reason to stay.
/r/seduction17/12/14 04:33 PM
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Fully agree
/r/seduction17/12/14 01:10 PM
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Well I wouldn't say if they reject you then you need to go after them. I really dislike rules and structure when it comes to seduction. All social interactions are based on decisions made in the moment, and structures usually guarantee a "less human" interaction. But you need to consider that for a girl (or anybody) to reject a conversation with you she is either in a bad/ anti social mood, or she can tell you are hiding your intentions. If she's in a bad mood then she shouldn't be disqualified …
/r/seduction30/11/14 04:59 PM
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I guess its all about what quality means to you. First of all, lets be real, a girl can easily tell when a stranger is trying to hit on her or when he is genuinely being friendly. In OP's case, my money is on he came off as a creeper trying to hit on her. Now, a quality girl for me is one who has a good character, high self-esteem, respects herself, and looks are equally important. While all girls can tell when they are being hit on, only the ones that fit this description are able be confident …
/r/seduction30/11/14 04:06 PM
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I dont think you are missing the signals since you are pointing them out in your post. Your issue is you are afraid to respond to the signals because you are afraid you are missreading them. This is more about trusting yourself and theres nothing i or any of us can tell you that will magically make you trust yourself. You just have take the chance, and if she rejects you at least you will trust that you took alpha decision of taking action and not the beta decision of no action just fantasy.
/r/seduction30/11/14 02:45 PM
2

When i get asked for my age i say "i dont know... whats todays date?"
/r/seduction30/11/14 02:38 PM
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Well if i were not attracted to the girl then obviously i wouldnt like it.
/r/seduction30/11/14 02:35 PM
0

Wrong mindset dude. If you think girls should be be open and friendly to every dude that tries to hit on her then you are bound to be bitterly dissappointed. If you ignore girls that are rude to your approaches you will have a very difficult time improving your game and finding a quality girl. I say this because you will find that girls like these will sharpen your game by making you tougher.
/r/seduction30/11/14 02:33 PM
2

Another option is a "Free hugs" sign. Its very liberating.
/r/seduction30/11/14 02:22 PM
1

I would try but people like you can never be convinced through words. My uncle was the same way. He would rather stay home jerking off to porn. He ended up meeting some ugly lady with 2 kids from another country online and all his money goes to her. They recently got married but its difficult for them to get togeher because of her visa. He will never enjoy a true relationship with an attractive girl.
/r/seduction16/11/14 03:58 AM
1

Get rid of all expectations. Th best way to do this is to expect the opposite. So expect that your plans will not work out so you might as well just have pointless fun. This is why girls go to the guy that already has a gf. He has no expectations of getting with those girls because they know he is taken and the girls also have no expectations of getting hit on. The end result is pointless fun which all humans are attracted to.
/r/seduction15/11/14 07:37 PM
1

Thats pretty legit
/r/seduction15/11/14 05:43 PM
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Yes. Agree 100%. In fact, before I approach i expect my sets to fail, I just approach because doing so liberates me and makes me feel awesome. Expectations really mess with your head in the long run because when they dont materialize (which is what usualy happens even if you are good at this) can make you bitter.
/r/seduction15/11/14 05:39 PM
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Thats what you think, but try it first. It actually does work.
/r/seduction15/11/14 05:35 PM
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The thoughts that go through my mind are different depending on whether im focused or not. When im not focused, I have many of the thoughts outlined in the post. When I am focused, Im able to chose my thoughts and ignore other thoughts. The thought I often chose is "I know this will not work" this liberates me from any expectation, and any pressure to hook the set vanishes, resulting in freedom from outcome. The thoughts i ignore are all those related to how others are judging me. Because i find…
/r/seduction15/11/14 05:32 PM
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You sound like a robot. If a woman is fishing for compliments and you give her one the only way she would think you are needy is if theres already a pattern of neediness like you lingering around her or giving her all your attention. Yes compliment when you feel like, and dont always respond when shes fishing for compliments, its all part of being spontaneous nd keeping her guessing. As soon as you become the guy that never does xyz you have become predictable and thats when attraction starts to…
/r/seduction14/11/14 04:30 AM
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This post is exactly what a beta mentality consists of. Now im not saying you are a complete afc, but if this attitude of "I have to keep my dignity" is how you go around life, you will not take the risks that a successful person has to take. Now im not saying you shouldve said yes to her, becuase you dont wanna seem too available, however you are always supossed to play the game. You asked her out before that means you find her attractive, so unless you have a gf now theres no good reason to no…
/r/seduction31/10/14 02:11 AM
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If you live in a big city go to the park
/r/seduction26/10/14 07:44 AM
1

You can learn something from him. How did he say it? What was his body language and tonality? What did he avoid doing that would have made him seem creepy? These are questions you ask yourself and really spend a few hours pondering them. The biggest thing that you will probably notice is that he did not say it with some agenda or intention behind it. He probably seemed sincere. Most likely, he did not seem like he spent time analyzing (even worse asking strangers on the interenet for strategies)…
/r/seduction09/09/14 12:31 AM
1

Lead the convo into something interesting they have at their place. Pictures, souveniers, pets, etc. If they are walking home, walk them to their door. Then ask to use their bathroom. Ask her about that interesting object she told you about, make yourself comfortable. If they have their own car its a little harder. Tell her how much you wanna see that interesting thing you discussed. It helps if you tell her you dont want nothing funny to happen.
/r/seduction07/09/14 10:44 PM
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You get more flakes from indirect because you did not do proper indirect game. Indirect game still uses game. You cant just fluff talk your way into her pants. BTW. Even if a girl is not sure that you are trying to pick her up, she will still bring up the bf line within the first 5 minutes just in case. So its not a big waste of time. Specially when it seems that a much greater amount of girls that are approached with a direct opener claim to "have a bf" than with indirect openers. But that's ju…
/r/seduction07/09/14 06:22 PM
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I would argue that. Specially if you can be very good at acting like you are really interested in the answer to the indirect opener, you can make the girl believe that you are just a friendly guy. She doesnt know if you are single or heck she doesnt even know if your straight. Her confusion of not being 100% sure of your intentions creates intrigue and curiosity, which leads to tension that you can use to your advantage. Going direct means theres none of these factors so all you are working with…
/r/seduction07/09/14 04:42 PM
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She is saying "why are you telling me this". Id say for the future talk with a purpose.
/r/seduction07/09/14 01:57 PM
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Ask the girl about herself. She will give you a lot of topics to work with from just one sentence.
/r/seduction07/09/14 01:54 PM
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Not sure why advice like this always gets downvoted. Its true. While direct game gets absolutely great reactions (what girl wouldnt react positevely to a compliment?) It rarely materializes into anyhing furher than the first interaction. This is why indirect game is best. It makes it much easier to establish a connection with the girl. A strong connection gets you farther than an initial attraction that results from a compliment, which slowly dissipates after the girl realizes you are still just…
/r/seduction07/09/14 01:52 PM
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The answer is pretty obvious. God example of what happens when you over analyse
/r/seduction06/09/14 01:22 PM
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Well lets see... If you dont have the will power to go to the gym you will not go, even as you are well aware that going to the gym is highly beneficial, you will come up with 100 excuses not to go if your will power is not there. Taking an action requires more than just knowledge, it requires will power. With pickup, if you do not have the will power to go up and open that set or escalate you will not do it. So this is your real problem, lack of will power to practice pickup. You are probably l…
/r/seduction03/09/14 12:57 PM
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You might be getting stuck in the whys. "Why cant i approach when they are facing away". Instead you should focus on the how. There many ways to approach all types of sets some work better than others.
/r/seduction02/09/14 10:35 PM
1

Apocalypse openers are not used to game girls, they are merely for self amusement and to losen you up. Reliable direct openers "hey I thought you were cute bla blah..." are not vulgar. Ineffective yes.
/r/seduction29/08/14 07:13 PM
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Who the fuck uses that as a reliable opener?
/r/seduction29/08/14 05:34 PM
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I would break that up into two parts. First ask her how shes doing. Send her the second part after she answers so that at least you know shes aware of who you are.
/r/seduction29/08/14 12:07 PM
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Dont use text to make convo and call her instead. Use text only to ask her out.
/r/seduction29/08/14 12:01 PM
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Vulgar? No. Ineffective? Yes.
/r/seduction29/08/14 11:59 AM
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I wouldnt go as far as to say he got shot down. This is called last minute resistance. OP I hope you didnt stop getting physical after she said this. I think maybe 90% of girls lie about being in their period, what they really want is for you to make them hornier because they are not ready for sex yet.
/r/seduction28/08/14 09:41 PM
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8lbs is not enough to make a difference in your looks. Most likely your new attitude and highet confidence is whats attracting them.
/r/seduction28/08/14 05:33 PM
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Watch infield videos on youtube to get a good sense of this
/r/seduction28/08/14 12:51 PM
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My advice is that this mentality has caused you to be bad with girls. Start by getting rid of that mentality. Put the moves on any girl and be ok with fucking up.
/r/seduction28/08/14 12:13 AM
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Outcome independence is KEY for a closing mentality. Even tho a closer wants to close, he has to be willing to let the target walk away in order to subcommunicate non-neediness.
/r/seduction28/08/14 12:11 AM
1

But caring about the girl did?
/r/seduction28/08/14 12:01 AM
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Social calibration will come as you learn from your mistakes. Dont let the fear of coming of 'creepy' stop you. Dont second guess your actions, do them based on the best of your knowledge and asses the results once they come. You wont learn anything otherwise.
/r/seduction28/08/14 12:00 AM
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How old are u?
/r/seduction27/08/14 11:48 PM
1

I agree with club girls being of less quality however there is also day game.
/r/seduction27/08/14 03:11 AM
1

How do you pull this off in the real world ( cold approach)?
/r/seduction27/08/14 12:39 AM
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I guess he should've been more specific. Some fraternities are just a bunch of geeks not interested in women.
/r/seduction26/08/14 12:44 AM
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I been to it a couple times. They are pretty good specially for being free.
/r/seduction25/08/14 11:41 PM
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Women do the same to men all the time. You have nothing to feel bad about.
/r/seduction25/08/14 10:10 PM
1

Yes, it always is. The sets that go horrible are the ones that help your progress the most in the long term. The worse the pain the bigger the lesson.
/r/seduction25/08/14 02:49 AM
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If you're a nice guy, the fastest way to find that center that alpha's live in is by going to the other extreme first.
/r/seduction25/08/14 02:04 AM
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Yet to be slapped but if and when I do I would only take it as a good sign big picture wise. Good job.
/r/seduction24/08/14 08:20 PM
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Exactly. Run game as usual.
/r/seduction24/08/14 08:18 PM
1

Lol. Same line came to my mind.
/r/seduction24/08/14 02:49 PM
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Cmon op you aint fooling nobody. Just tell us the truth. Nobody with more han 4" worries about their size.
/r/seduction21/08/14 11:14 PM
1

Try looking it up on http://www.howtoga.me
/r/seduction21/08/14 07:12 PM
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Why isnt this being upvoted. Awesome explanation
/r/seduction20/08/14 12:11 PM
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Yes yes yes. This works the same with me. You are coming off as a genuine guy, not as a guy thats "trying" to act confident. The girls can see when you are faking confidence. Although its good to fake confidence til u make it, the lack of genuineness is palpable and drives people away. However from my experience you dont have to act confident to get a girl. Just be genuine.
/r/seduction19/08/14 09:26 PM
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Think about whats the worst that could happen if you go on date and it doesnt work out. You will be back to where you were last week, but this time you will have gained the reference experience of going out on dates. Think of this as your next plateu of pickup, which you have to get over at some point anyways. So you might as well do it now. I call i the next plateu because thats the next step you must take. After that comes sex.
/r/seduction18/08/14 05:10 PM
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While i agree that this might be a lost cause. I would argue that this is not her fault. You are the man and you are supossed to lead the interaction into building attraction. I recommend that you do set up a second date (my expectation is she will flake but its worth a shot) just to burn it to the ground. Meaning if she accepts another date just push for the close as much as possible. Let her walk away in disgust, you will learn something huge about yourself if you do this.
/r/seduction16/08/14 02:49 AM
1

Go to http://www.howtoga.me search "club game". Done.
/r/seduction13/08/14 12:15 AM
1

The first 3 steps and the last one are the ones that i most agree are important in pickup. Have fun. When you are not having fun it feels like work. When you work for free you dont last long. Most guys who cant treat this as just a game end up giving up and being resentful towards pickup. If you cant accept rejection as part of the game you will have a hard time. The chance of getting rejected will ALWAYS be there. If you cant accept that you will always have approach/ escalation anxiety. Listen…
/r/seduction12/08/14 02:55 PM
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Hard to do this without feeling like a cornball.
/r/seduction12/08/14 12:08 PM
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Do it despite the fact that its awkward.
/r/seduction11/08/14 06:28 PM
2

Ive been doing something similar. I hsound very slow and monotone when i speak, so i now practice talking fast. This keeps me focused on my speech and tonality. Im basically the opposite of you. People make comments on my serious look and how i dont smile and it feels weird for me to smile for no reason. Although ive only recently learned to smile when saying hello. I guess its different for everyone, but the goal is always to reach the happy medium.
/r/seduction11/08/14 06:27 PM
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The thing is you never know. I've laid girls that were giving me disinterested body language at first. But if i didnt hung in there until they left then i wasnt going to leave. And i would purposely give them chances to leave. The fact that they dont just tells me they are interested but im not giving them something to grab on to. So thats what i do. I try other things such as escalating further and just being more aggressive because thats what some chicks like. In short, the mantra get blown or…
/r/seduction11/08/14 06:19 PM
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Easy. Go to http.www.howtoga.me search for "concerts". Done.
/r/seduction11/08/14 05:15 PM
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Whatever you guys are talking about, act like you are very interested in it, and not like you're interested in HER. After a few minutes of this you can 'act' like you have become interested in her.
/r/seduction09/08/14 04:56 AM
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Please dont talk forever, men hate it when women talk too much.
/r/seduction09/08/14 04:53 AM
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Yup. The most effective way to get a girl's interest is by being interested in what she has to say. If you were very curious to find out about the subject shes talking about, what would you ask? Also, do not be scared of silence. People can see when you are uncomfortable and it will make the silence worse. Be comfortable with the silence. Its ok to be nervous and to not know what to say. Its fine to look at your phone and not say anything if you have nothing to say.
/r/seduction09/08/14 04:43 AM
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Theres absolutely no way to know that for sure unless you went inside her brain. Even in situations that might seem like the odds are against you you should still play your best card. Giving up before trying is beta behavior.
/r/seduction09/08/14 01:10 AM
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Best wouldve been to ler her meet u at the bar and dont mention they are closing soon. By the time they get there they have invested so much time and effort to going out that they will do anything to get drinks, such as go back your place.
/r/seduction08/08/14 10:44 PM
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I understand your theory but im looking at results. I constantly see guys who just break social norms and act in a way that most would consider disrespectful, get the girl. What you and me differ on is on not giving a fuck vs being detached from results. In the former you dont give a fuck about any strategy to get the girl and you are just yourself at the most simple level, in the latter you are focused on a strategy that shows your "best self". While they both can create attraction, only the fo…
/r/seduction08/08/14 09:31 PM
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DGAF means you did your best in any social situation, and.. So there are rules to not NGAF? Thats an oxymoron. Please dont make up rules as you see fit. Your article is crap and you completely misunderstood what happened. There. Doesnt that feel good? to just criticize someone so you can feel like you're in the right at least for a moments? this is human nature, this how you truly are. You didnt hold back any opinions you told it like it is, be it right or wrong. You dont give a fuck about me an…
/r/seduction08/08/14 11:57 AM
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You are taking my examples WAYYY too literally. to put it in a few words: She didnt get attracted to him because he burped in front of her, she became attracted because he was being his true self in front of her, the burping was just what made me realize it. I know he couldve laid her because this guy has a history of laying girls by doing the same thing he did that night, and I'm not a kid, I can tell when a girl is attracted or not. Anybody can tell that if you are tooling a girl and being obn…
/r/seduction08/08/14 03:48 AM
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Dude why do you keep talking about farting on the first date? I mean there is being yourself and theres being socially retarded. No he didnt fuck her, he's got a gf and wants to be loyal.
/r/seduction08/08/14 03:11 AM
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Of course you are going to take my words to the extreme. I expected people to do that. You have a consciousness, you can discern between bad and good. Im not saying fart and im certainly not saying fart on the first date. Im saying that if you can not be your worst self in front of others, and by worst i mean that socially frowned upon side that EVERY HUMAN HAS, yoi will never be able to really be yourself. Most guys do not want to run the risk of offending a hot girl, yet if you notice, most gu…
/r/seduction08/08/14 02:56 AM
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Im not sure what that means but Im saying fuck trying to be exciting or associating yourself with exciting. You can only be interesting or exciting for so long. What happens once you run out of exciting or interesting shit or once it gets old? The attraction dies.
/r/seduction08/08/14 02:30 AM
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Whats up with this not making out on the second date shit? She must think youre this lameo who is scared to go after what he wants
/r/seduction07/08/14 10:49 PM
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Right on. Everytime i see a girl that makes my heart stop I remind myself that there are millions of girls as hot or much hotter than her. No girl can ever be "the hottest chick i ever seen"
/r/seduction07/08/14 07:36 PM
1

I live in nyc and same thing. Approaching the unapproachable is something you will have to get used to. You'd be surprised how many of those are open to talk.
/r/seduction07/08/14 12:55 PM
1

Go out for daygame on sundays and any other day after work.
/r/seduction07/08/14 12:49 PM
0

You dont have to take your clothes off. And if you are worried about your sexual performance, jerk off until your close to cumming but dont cum, do this for 20 mins 3 hours before the date.
/r/seduction07/08/14 12:48 PM
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Tip: You dont have to be a firefighter to dress up as one.
/r/seduction07/08/14 12:43 PM
1

Seems legit
/r/seduction06/08/14 02:24 AM
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Its funny how you respond to all my comments so quickly. Its as if i control your life.
/r/seduction05/08/14 10:24 PM
2

I've thought about this before and i think our minds have been conditioned by media to associate smoking with relaxing and being cool. Just like leather jackets and motorcycles. If you think of a bad ass guy in jeans and leather jacket standing somewhere your mind associates him to smoking. I think its Malboro that marketed smoking as the cool edgy thing in the 40's.
/r/seduction05/08/14 10:16 PM
1

Yea listen to this guy hes the expert. Just dont read his FRs.
/r/seduction05/08/14 10:07 PM
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Ok man. All you date are timid asian girls as you said in a previous post and you were scared when a white girl didnt reject you so its easy to tell that your experience is very limited. And maybe it has worked for you once, but we are looking for consistency, not isolated occurrences. Structuring your game around luck is just careless. Op, in general, if you want the girl to still want to hang out with you on a later date, you want to spend more time than all other afcs at the venue spend talki…
/r/seduction05/08/14 10:06 PM
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Thats been my experience and of other i know. A girl always has a selection of guys from her inner circle that she can choose from, in order to compete with that you have to really leave a lasting memory and not just be that random guy who numbrr closed her because the next day you will be forgotten.
/r/seduction05/08/14 03:00 PM
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To add to this, its also about the time you guys spent together. As a rough esyimate sets that last less than 30 mins will flake, unless she is very attracted.
/r/seduction05/08/14 10:53 AM
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This
/r/seduction05/08/14 10:45 AM
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I agree. It was more for showing my results than to teach anything. I will be sharing videos with audio as soon as i fix the audio.
/r/seduction05/08/14 10:13 AM
1

True. You cant see what others are thinking so why do you think they can?
/r/seduction05/08/14 01:48 AM
1

I agree with advice above. Also try www.howtoga.me
/r/seduction05/08/14 01:20 AM
1

Unless you and your friends have some weird rule that you cannot separate from the group I don't see why you cant wander around the club or bar on your own and start talking to girls.
/r/seduction05/08/14 12:26 AM
2

Exactly, and all girls say the same thing. But everything changes when a man that knows what he is doing leads her into it.
/r/seduction05/08/14 12:22 AM
2

Awesome mantra. Never count on the girl making the first move. If it happens dont count on it happening again.
/r/seduction05/08/14 12:18 AM
3

Would you initiate getting to second base inside a club?
/r/seduction05/08/14 12:16 AM
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You are not a special case. Get out of this unique snowflake mindset. My guess is you have an alternative to sex, which is porn and or masturbation. Quit these for a while and notice the results. When you have no alternate means to relase your hornyness, you wont give 2 shits about looking awkward. Trust me.
/r/seduction04/08/14 11:05 PM
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You have to look at this subreddit with a birds eye view. Often but not always, the advice most people will agree with is what they are comfortable doing. In other words AFCs will agree with ideas that fit into their afc logic. This only prolongs their behavior and its the reason why most will not make significant change, ever. Unless of course something makes them snap and then they desperately want to change, if they are lucky. So yeah dont put much importance on downvotes or upvotes, sometime…
/r/seduction04/08/14 10:24 PM
1

Open a girl by kissing her on the cheek.
/r/seduction04/08/14 04:42 PM
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Haha. You cant come to a place full of men who cant get women and ask them how to get women. I dont know anything about you but by the fact youre posting this i can safely assume you are thinking alot about what you want but not about how to get it. So start not by asking a bunch of other guys who can only give you guesses but by thinking about your daily routine and your surroundings. What can you change about it that will put you into contact with more women? What are guys with a lot of women …
/r/seduction04/08/14 04:34 PM
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First off try and worry about things as they come. If you try to solve all the issues that "might" come without having experienced it yourself first, it will be waste of time because you will forget everything we've told you by then. Second, validation seeking comes when you want to show the girl why she should like you. But you can counter this by acting as if she has to win your interest. How? By stop talking about yourself as much as possible and letting her talk about herself. Ask her questi…
/r/seduction04/08/14 01:50 PM
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When learning a new skills you will go through 4 stages of expertize: Unconscious incompetence: You dont know how hard it is to be good at it so you have unrealistically optimistic expectations. Conscious incompetence: You discover how tough it is to get good results and realize how much you suck. Conscious competence: You start to get it but you need to be really focused in order to do the skill correctly. Unconscious competence: You have mastered the skill and it comes to you naturally. You my…
/r/seduction04/08/14 12:44 PM
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I agree that telling a girl you like her or that find her attractive is not the best way to go. What im saying is make the girl feel that you are interested in her in the sense of being interested to learn about who she is. As opossed to just being interested in hooking up with her. People like those who legitimately like them. So it is a lot more effective to show legitimate interest in finding out more about her, than to make her like you by showing her how "interesting" or "cool" you might be…
/r/seduction03/08/14 05:28 PM
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I would argue that much more important than being interesting is showing that you are interested in the girl. What do most "interesting" guys do? They love to show how interesting they are and they forget to show her how interested they are in her. Always remember to listen to what shes saying and find out more about her. People in general are more excited to talk about themselves han they are to hear about you
/r/seduction03/08/14 02:08 PM
1

I follow Justin Waynes model. Open indirect then transition into basic social comfort, basic kino (high fives, friendly side hugs), then more intimate kino such as hand holding, GLL's strategy is one way to do this, kiss on the cheek ( for this sometimes i act like im leaving and i give her a hug goodbye and make her give me a kiss on the cheek and then i re-engage as if something about her just caught my attention and continue talking) and invite her for instadate. I try holding and touching he…
/r/seduction02/08/14 10:09 PM
1

Definetly not enough.
/r/seduction02/08/14 01:08 AM
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Im bald, skinny, and about 5'6 tall. Only thing i got going for me is my fashion perhaps. Search for Justin wayne on youtube, thats how i learned this.
/r/seduction02/08/14 01:03 AM
2

Its funny how people in this forum that have a sob story or issue get so much positive attention yet when somebody shares something they are proud out of he gets nothing but haters.
/r/seduction01/08/14 02:26 PM
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You should care, maybe you can ask questions to learn how to get the same results? Its actually awesome to see somebody thats not whinning about how much their game sucks.
/r/seduction01/08/14 02:23 PM
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I agree. Thats unless you can have a reason for asking that question. If you have a reason or can make up one then you can ask anything you want.
/r/seduction01/08/14 01:13 PM
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The tension was killed so her antislut defense went up. Avoid getting very sexual if your logistics are not good because women will rarely give you a second chance, third chances, as in your case, are impossible. You did your best, time to move on.
/r/seduction01/08/14 06:24 AM
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I got my laptop out told her to sit next to me and started watching youtube videos while my phone charged. Then I started making out with her, then the usual sexual escalation. And no, she never mentioned anything about how much longer will my phone take to charge.
/r/seduction01/08/14 06:05 AM
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Girls are very good at acting "nice" to nice guys, even when they are creeped out by them. My point is that even though she didn't looked creeped out, it does not mean at all that she didn't perceive your questions as creepy. How do you know for sure she didn't get creeped out? Are f-closing her or at least is she not flaking? If not then your strategy failed at not creeping her out of your life. This is why for me, I dont consider a strategy as having "worked" until I have laid the girl or she'…
/r/seduction01/08/14 05:40 AM
1

Thats not what the study says.
/r/seduction01/08/14 05:29 AM
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The first 5 or so will not be perfect. Then again you should look at the root cause. Could it be that your social awkwardness is due to your need to be perfect and create a good impression? Sinse most if not all interactions with strangers will seem awkward, often during the first few seconds, maybe you SHOULD make it your goal to be awkward until you become comfortable with awkwardness and not leaving the perfect impression.
/r/seduction31/07/14 01:30 PM
1

This is why indirect game works much better than direct.
/r/seduction31/07/14 01:22 PM
4

More kino less compliments.
/r/seduction31/07/14 01:22 PM
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Thats a good idea, bang u/gentleadevnturer 's ex.
/r/seduction31/07/14 01:15 PM
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My last lay: Used indirect opener on a hb 8 by herself at the park. Went for a walk, then for an instadate to juice bar, sat on the park bench for a little while, took her to grab a bite at "great place i know" next to my place, told her my phone is dead and i need to charge it come inside for a few minutes. She spend the night here. Most of my closes follow roughly this same model : Im in place A (in field) how do i lead her to place B (instadate) and then to place C (my place) without creeping…
/r/seduction31/07/14 01:13 PM
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I guess the reason why this worked... Can you explain why do you think this worked? You didnt have sex with her so I would argue that.
/r/seduction31/07/14 12:57 PM
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Dis nigga
/r/seduction31/07/14 12:22 PM
1

Who made this rule?
/r/seduction31/07/14 12:18 PM
1

One word: kino. Lots of it.
/r/seduction31/07/14 01:38 AM
1

How did you know girl A was into you besides her accidentally brushing against you?
/r/seduction30/07/14 12:21 PM
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What do you mean by "still"? I dont see that you have done anything to try to get over the issue (approaching beautiful women). The fact that you spent a year in college means nothing. I spent 5 years in college and 2 in Manhattan and i was still intimidated by them. And still am, but to a lesser extend. Im sure it will always be there, the trick is being able to do and say what you want despite the fact that you perceive these type of women as higher value than you.
/r/seduction30/07/14 12:10 PM
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Cancel the date right now. Tell her that since its not a sure thing its better you guys do it some other time. And once you do this you have to show conviction which means dont give in when she tells you thursday is actually good. You have shit to do also and dont have time for these "i will confirm when i know" answers. So postpone the date.
/r/seduction30/07/14 12:00 PM
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You might be lingering too much. In a set you want to be doing one of two things, or both, you want to escalate and you want to be in the moment. If you are not escalating and the set is stalling and youre still there, you come off as needy. Best thing to do if the set is getting stale and you have stopped escalating, is to man up and continue escalating or end the set. Theres no reason for you to be there and its killing your chances of seeing her again, maybe the next time you see her you will…
/r/seduction30/07/14 04:13 AM
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You will have to go under the radar with this one so be indirect. As you pass by her tomorrow say hello and continue walking then pretend like something just popped into your mind and go back to her, remember to open over your shoulder, and ask something about the class. If she gives you a weird look or avoids eye contact then consider it a loss and walk away. Otherwise transition and talk about class and then transition further and intro yourself and take it from there. I like doing this better…
/r/seduction30/07/14 04:05 AM
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You dont know how to solve your problems because you are focused on the negatives and not on finding a solution. Name 3 things you learned from this set.
/r/seduction29/07/14 11:19 PM
2

I got that vibe too.
/r/seduction29/07/14 11:15 PM
1

So this girl was obviously not your type personality wise and i can understand if the reason for you to stay in set was just for the practice. Because of this I wouldnt feel negative towards this situation. You didnt give up and you plowed until she left, thats how you practice for success. You should feel awesome that you didnt give up and you must focus your energy into analysing all the things you couldve done better and how you can improve both your outer and inner game. A good response for …
/r/seduction29/07/14 11:13 PM
2

You might coming off as a dancing monkey. Are you having a normal conversation or are you trying to amuse her?
/r/seduction29/07/14 10:59 PM
1

Dont go there, those places are saturated with PUA's. The best places are south bronx and harlem. Anywhere past 120th street you'll find tons of honeys for daygame and nightgame.
/r/seduction29/07/14 12:33 AM
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Girls want the man to take the initiative. Just go as far as she will allow you. Who ever said you have to tell the girl that her job is to say no is an idiot and is setting you up for failure. You dont need to teach anybody how to say no. Shes a rational person who knows what she wants and knows how to say no. Dont believe me? Next time you see her try fingering her right after saying hello. As a man, you must escalate as far as she will allow you, and if she doesnt allow you right now then you…
/r/seduction29/07/14 12:27 AM
1

There must be a reason behind every question. For ex. "What is your major? I think i know you from class". This lets her know you have a reason for asking her that and are not just "trying to get to know her". Getting to know a girl is something you do only once she has shown interest in you.
/r/seduction28/07/14 04:33 AM
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Your texts make you seem like captain obvious and they seem desperate. Your line "I dont really know but could you tell me what major you study? I study comp sci :)" is so desperatly needy it makes me cringe. Why do i say that? Because its obvious you are just asking her that to make conversation and not because you are interested in her response. Whats going hrough her head? " why does he want to know this? Is there a reason or does he just want to talk to me? why does he want to talk if he doe…
/r/seduction28/07/14 03:33 AM
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Even if others don't respect you, at least you will respect yourself more than if you had pussied out.
/r/seduction28/07/14 02:11 AM
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You are resorting to violence and im the Neanderthal? Right. How old are you dude. You cant possibly be past your early 20s with that mentallity. If you are, then i feel bad for you because i know where you will end up.
/r/seduction27/07/14 06:55 AM
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Its not a sign of disrespect if he didnt know you were with the girl. Plus i think you and most here are picturing some weird guy going up to girls from behind and randomly grabbing their ass. This is not whay we are talking about here, but rather about skillfully getting girls to a level of comfort in which you can grab their ass without offending them.
/r/seduction26/07/14 11:38 PM
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Fuck yeah im one of the creeps who does it, and the chicks love it. I'd love for you to kick my ass over this, I'd sue your ass for every penny you have, and i would win.
/r/seduction26/07/14 11:16 PM
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You havent answer my question: Why do you care? Second, why the fuck would I want to kick somebodys ass if they havent done anything to harm me or my loved ones? Letting your insecurities resort to violence is a lot worse for society than touching a woman in a flirtatious manner, specially in a place such as a bar where things like that are not out of he norm.
/r/seduction26/07/14 08:22 PM
1

Why do u care dude are u a cop or a superman wannabe?
/r/seduction26/07/14 06:36 PM
1

Its very easy to amog a guy trying to hitting on a girl who you already have a relationship with, even if you have only seen her a couple times. The girl is 99.9% of the time going to stick to you not only for protection but out of respect for you. So in cases like these you barely need to do any work and just walk away without saying a word. Unless of course the guy is a top pua who can maneuver himself and quickly create comfort and attraction, even in that case all you need to do is call him …
/r/seduction26/07/14 03:15 PM
1

There are hundreds of resources out there. Search how to be a great conversationalist, also story telling.
/r/seduction26/07/14 03:02 PM
1

Great post!
/r/seduction26/07/14 02:55 PM
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This is precisely why I find your argument bizarre and malconstructed. You can "pickup" a girl by giving, just like you can pickup a tomato from the supermarket by waiting for it to jump into your hand. It does not work that way. In an age where women are self sufficient and don't need a male for survival, our old strategy of "provide and she will come to you" no longer works, therefore you need a new strategy. The strategy is not "take" the girl but to efficiently and attractively show her your…
/r/seduction26/07/14 03:27 AM
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Its a two way street, you are acquiring the woman by making her feel good emotions. In fact, pickup wouldnt work if the woman wasnt taking some value from you also. Its human nature to take whats in your best interest.
/r/seduction26/07/14 03:06 AM
1

Theres some good spots by UCLA
/r/seduction26/07/14 02:59 AM
2

That means they have poor social skills. Just because they arent attracted doesnt mean they cant have a conversation.
/r/seduction26/07/14 02:58 AM
2

I think I see where you are coming from but this post is just bizarre. Learn how to construct a proper argument first. Everything you wrote is misinformed to put it lightly, not to mention vague and higly debatable. By the way, pickup is not about controlling a woman through strategy, its about taking control of yourself and taking the right action.
/r/seduction26/07/14 02:45 AM
1

Most seduction forums have a challenge like that
/r/seduction25/07/14 11:42 AM
2

I've never heard of a woman do a false take away. You are teasing them way too much. Learn to see when you might be crossing the line and calibeate yourself. Also you have to balance the teasing with charm and comfort building.
/r/seduction25/07/14 11:39 AM
1

Been in game for 3 years and i havent gotten bored of girls yet. If you mean get bored of doing the same strategy, i challenge myself to deliver my strategy faster and to get more consistent results.
/r/seduction24/07/14 12:15 PM
1

Its about balance. The ideal would be 50-50, but if you dont have the ime for that you should always spend more time practicing than reading. I study material (reading and videos) about 5 hrs a week and go out about 10 hrs a week. I also spend a good 2 to 3 hrs writing down my experiences, reflecting on hem, and also helping others with their game.
/r/seduction24/07/14 12:06 PM
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At the same time, golf is a bit more complex than just hittig a ball with a stick. You could argue its more complex than going to a bar and talking to chicks. All about perspective
/r/seduction24/07/14 12:00 PM
3

Yea i get that part. But to write down her # on paper while being recorded with your own cell phone seems kinda weird.
/r/seduction24/07/14 12:44 AM
1

Still makes no sense.
/r/seduction23/07/14 11:36 PM
1

Dont you have a phone? Why write the # on paper?
/r/seduction23/07/14 11:08 PM
5

In my experience it doesnt matter
/r/seduction23/07/14 12:15 AM
4

I wouldnt consider Hungary eastern europe (in fact they might get a little insulted if you say that) Hungarian girls are friendly like most western european girls, but have the beauty of eastern europeans. So you get the best of both worlds.
/r/seduction22/07/14 12:25 PM
1

Wow. awsome post.
/r/seduction22/07/14 12:19 PM
1

It was more like a mutual thing. I was in shock for like a second but i only walked away when i saw him start to walk away, Im pretty sure because he realized by my tone that im not gay. It was very quick too and he stopped me on my tracks.
/r/seduction22/07/14 12:57 AM
1

Ok
/r/seduction22/07/14 12:55 AM
2

Haha. Thats just fucked up
/r/seduction21/07/14 08:44 PM
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When a gay guy (who seemed straight) asked me for directions and upon leaving he said "I really just had to tell you that you are cute". Im not gay so i quickly walked away, but the confidence this guy had when he said that made me realize that it not weird to approach strangers on the street, that its actually quite flattering. Anytime my AA comes i just go back into that memory and that helps me get rid of my AA.
/r/seduction21/07/14 08:43 PM
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Put it his way, if you knew exactly what could help you you wouldnt be asking us for help. Obviously the things that will help you are those which you doubt will work thats why you havent tried them, and thats why you came here, to find out what works. The fact that you are unwilling to try it is a separate problem which needs a whole new post. Possibly titled "Why can't I do what it takes to solve my issues" and a subsequent one "How can i fuck an ugly chick without losing my erection".
/r/seduction21/07/14 06:35 PM
2

That means you're not ready to get laid by 9's. In game there are many things we must do which we dont necesseraly feel ready for.
/r/seduction21/07/14 02:21 PM
1

From the way you express yourself i can tell you are stuck in a victim mentality. Meaning your mindset is more focused on how much your game sucks than on finding a way to improve. We can give you all the resources than can help you, but we can not hange your mindset. Take a hard look at your goal, if you only see a blur then it means you dont really have a set goal, you just wanna get laid because youve been told by the media to do so and not because your male energy is motivating you. So how c…
/r/seduction21/07/14 02:40 AM
2

If shes hung around for that long then shes open to cheat. I never ask about their status bc i dont care, i just game them the same way no matter what. If they dont wanna cheat they will walk away.
/r/seduction21/07/14 02:24 AM
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Yes. For a few months i was stuck going only for girls that looked like my ex. Then i broaden a little but i was still going for girls that were of that race only. One day after my pickiness had caused me to be 4 months dry, i just said fuck it and fucked this really ugly girl. Im talking an hb4. From then on, i was pretty much going for any girl that was better than that and my pickyness almost vanished. So go fuck an ugly girl.
/r/seduction21/07/14 02:20 AM
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Yea it usually comes back, but i usually take my focus off AA and into my goal. Btw if you are in a line always go indirect. And to be honest your indirect line was a little lame because i can see the girl responding to it with a nervous smile and turning back around. Its better to ask an open ended question like where did she gey that from or it could be a closed question like do you think this drink tastes better than x. Hesitayion tends to come to you when you are least focused. So focus on y…
/r/seduction20/07/14 09:59 PM
1

Girls go out alone to bars too and you know whay they say? "My friends just left im just finishing my drink". Its a good line so fuck it I use it too.
/r/seduction20/07/14 09:49 PM
3

Dont do it until the relationship gets very serious
/r/seduction20/07/14 09:47 PM
1

They didnt influence each other at all
/r/seduction20/07/14 09:44 PM
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Aknowledge it and exagerate it. Tell her you approach every girl you see. She will laugh. Then you move on to the next topic.
/r/seduction20/07/14 09:41 PM
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I didnt say be conscious of your thoughts, but be conscious of the fact that you put a lot of emotion in your thoughts
/r/seduction20/07/14 01:09 PM
1

I stopped masturbating and watching porn for 3 months. And yes it worked.
/r/seduction20/07/14 12:57 PM
1

Well if she has 2 teenagers im thinking mid 30s
/r/seduction20/07/14 12:56 PM
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Maybe she was too drunk or just doesnt like to talk to strangers in bars. Treat getting rejected the same as losing at a video game: you start again and again until you beat it. You wouldnt consider yourself a loser if you lost at a videogame would you?
/r/seduction20/07/14 04:41 AM
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You are putting too much emotion on your thoughts. Be conscious of this next time you have those thoughts and they will have less and less power to hurt you.
/r/seduction20/07/14 04:39 AM
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At parties you cant start off by being yourself, you have to start by building attraction and only once you see the attraction is there can you start being yourself.
/r/seduction20/07/14 04:36 AM
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Learn how to listen. This means capturing the details of everything shes saying and finding out more about those details. Then tie them to other things that are closely or even loosely related. Also keep in mind that sticking to one subject for too long can be suicide. Its not a bad thing to bring up a totally unrelated subject as long as its something that interests you and you are not just saying to avoid an awkward silence.
/r/seduction20/07/14 04:27 AM
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Agreed. Girls are more awkward about silent moments so they will usually fill it up. However if there are too many silent moments then thats a sign you should work on your conversational skills.
/r/seduction20/07/14 04:20 AM
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Should make up for all those down votes for trolling
/r/seduction20/07/14 03:01 AM
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Again it depends on your vibe wih the girl. Im the type of person that puts more importance in results than in opinions. Your opinion and probably of most other guys is that it does not sound appropriate so you will never test it to see if its true even though in this case it worked. I also think this line sounds a little crass but I see it working on those girls whom I've already established a sexual vibe with. In pickup the rule is you have to be willing to test shit out even if it goes agains…
/r/seduction20/07/14 02:45 AM
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Well it worked for the op so you cant really say that. It depends on your vibe with the girl.
/r/seduction20/07/14 02:16 AM
1

Notice and write down all the paterns you see in your sets that hook.
/r/seduction20/07/14 01:56 AM
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I like how after this line "Me and you need to become good friends!" I say, "Why's that?" And she responds, "Because you know where the good beer is at!". You didnt do what most beginners do and asked for the number right away. By choosing to have a comfort building conversation you made yourself come off as calm, cool, and collected. This girl was into you from the start, but by playing it cool and not reacting to her request in a needy way you amplified that attraction. The interaction was gre…
/r/seduction19/07/14 11:06 PM
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The best way to make them see you as a sexual partner? Kino. Play with her hands, Grab them and even hold hands. Give her hugs when she says something you like. You dont need to say anything sexual if you are not comfortable. Show leadership by making her follow you to different places. Dont ask her to come with you to x place but tell her to come and dont wait for her answer. If she is still hanging around after this it means she is very interested in you and you can be assured she wont reject …
/r/seduction19/07/14 10:14 PM
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Thats kind of awkward to have a girl stand right in front me while i grab her boobs. Doesnt seem very natural for me and it specially doesnt seem sexual at all. I think it would feel for her the same way it would if a doctor was checking her for lumps. Heres a more natural way which i like to use. Make out wih her, slide your hands up and down her sides and get really close to her breasts. Then with one hand touch the side of her breast slowly for only 1 second. Make it seem like it was accident…
/r/seduction19/07/14 09:53 PM
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Dont feel bad about escalating on a nice girl. Just remember that she wouldnt hesitate to drop you over any asshole douchebag that doesnt care about respectig her. Women love a man that can dominate them more than a man that can just respect them.
/r/seduction19/07/14 09:38 PM
1

Start by talking normal instead of mumbling. Its a conscious decision that is under your control.
/r/seduction19/07/14 09:31 PM
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5 hrs is too short. I've had sex with girls who initially took about that time to reply to my text. They were out with friends or working. I only next them when its a pattern. Usually when a girl constantly takes more than 1 hr to repond to my every text it indicates low interest. Having said that, a few times it has happened that calling them on the phone after 5 days of not texting has revived the attraction. It all has to do with how much time you spent in your initial interaction
/r/seduction19/07/14 09:25 PM
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Its in the eyes of the woman.
/r/seduction19/07/14 09:15 PM
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The chienese set mustve taught you a powerful lesson: dont walk away from sets. Also at malls you might have more success by asking where a specific store is then make an observation about them. About your anxiety to go for the number. This is related to your motivation to close. By close i mean a full f close. The only way to remedy this is by getting rid of alternatives. That means stop watching porn and masturbating.
/r/seduction19/07/14 03:15 PM
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Lets us know how that goes
/r/seduction19/07/14 02:24 AM
1

Just ask them for directions then make an observation. If she has an accent guess where shes from. Or notice her style or something shes wearing. If she stays then that means shes not annoyed.
/r/seduction18/07/14 10:25 PM
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Thanx. Fixed it.
/r/seduction18/07/14 10:17 PM
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If you want a girl to comply with a request dont ask her if she wants to, but command her to do it. Women don't know what they want, they might say they dont want to go up to your place but if you do it right they end up having sex. When they consistently take hours to text back it means they are no longer interested. Women are easy to lead once you build enough comfort. If you confidently request them to do something they will do it. Be a good listener and make her talk. This will make her inve…
/r/seduction18/07/14 05:59 PM
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Great points man. The best way to learn is when you can witness in others the behaviors that dont and do want in yourself. Not only that but you have learnrd what is true. That the best way to learn seduction is from women.
/r/seduction18/07/14 05:34 PM
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Yup. Justin waynes stuff is pretty much the hing hat has worked for me
/r/seduction18/07/14 04:48 PM
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Good job man. A few pointers: Asking a girl to come back to your place or hers almost never works. Best thing to do is drive her to her place and once you arrive tell her you want to use the bathroom. Once inside tell her you can only stay for a few minutes but ask her to show you whatever or show her something on youtube. Or drive to your place and tell her you dont have much time but to come for a few minutes because you want to show her your pics before you part ways. Its important to LEAD, w…
/r/seduction18/07/14 03:31 PM
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You cant just rely on concerts to pickup girls. In fact i wouldnt recommend it since most of those people are drunk or on drugs. Not only that but spending a few hundred on going to a concert to get a number that will most likely flake is a bad idea from a financial perspective. You would be better off calling an escort. Learning how to pick up girls from daygame is better. You dont spend any money and you catch her while shes sober.
/r/seduction18/07/14 02:34 PM
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Dont fall into the victim mentallity man. If you have no idea what you're doing wrong find theresources to help you. Watch videos of the pros and notice what they do that you dont. Also, direct openers can work for some and in some situations, but indirect has a higher rate of effectiveness. Take this from me, a guy thats been doing daygame for 4 months and already gets instadates and had same day lay last week. Do i make my intentions known right away? No, i open the girl ( usually by asking di…
/r/seduction18/07/14 02:23 PM
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Seems biased. My hunch is this Jason Capital dude is affiliated with them. He is a video jockey trying to promote his book. No infield videos just hundreds of videos of himself talking. What makes him better than Justin Wayne or Todd?
/r/seduction18/07/14 01:43 PM
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Thats because he sucks ass
/r/seduction18/07/14 01:25 PM
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When you want something from them you will not be yourself. Women are very good at detecting whether you are being yourself. Approach a lot and you will learn to become comfortable enough to be yourself even when you really desire that girl.
/r/seduction15/07/14 04:07 AM
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Dont worry about that dude. Once you are in colllege try to figure it out.
/r/seduction13/07/14 12:27 PM
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"Oh high 5!" And continue talking about something else. Or "cool I have many boyfriends" And continue talking about something else.
/r/seduction12/07/14 04:23 AM
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While its much easier to game online, the quality of girls is very bad. Its almost impossible to get any hb7s or above to meet up. Plus its not an efficient use of your time. You have to comb thru hundreds of girls to message the ones that are not totally busted. Out of those only a few dozen will respond and then you have to wait for their responses which are not usually quick. And hopefully you do a good enough job at it to make them want to meet. Oh yeah and then they flake. The flake rate is…
/r/seduction10/07/14 03:05 PM
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When you're very attracted to her you tend to build mental stories of having a future together. You imagine taking her on dates, having sex, making her your gf, etc. These mental stories are what make you care too much. You dont care so much about her as much as you care about fulfilling the images you have built, and this becomes a NEED. The need to accomplish those stories which are just illusions. Because of this, when you spend too much mental energy on a person you become needy of them. Im …
/r/seduction10/07/14 12:30 PM
1

Night game is great to practice aggressive game which increases your natural dominance during daygame. Daygame helps your nigtgame in many aspects, not just one, but it doesnt increase your dominance.
/r/seduction10/07/14 12:16 PM
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Theres the risk of her saying shes not single and walking away. Seems like a blow out to me.
/r/seduction10/07/14 12:09 PM
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Im in NYC, half of the girls here have their headphones on. I havent noticed a correlation between getting rejected and wearing headphones so it doesnt make a difference. Ignore the headphones and open the same way as you would any other girl.
/r/seduction09/07/14 12:57 PM
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College campus and parks
/r/seduction09/07/14 12:52 PM
1

You dont have to be non needy to approach women, you have to be non needy to ATTRACT women. You become non needy by approaching a lot of women. At first you will be very nervous so you will fail a lot, but after opening a number of sets you will fail less and less.
/r/seduction09/07/14 12:50 PM
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How can you have your cake and eat it too? Same concept. The reason why you are in the friends zone is because you never took the risk to actuqlly show her you liked her beyond just verbally telling her so.
/r/seduction09/07/14 12:45 PM
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You are submissive because you are a beta. Once you practice and start getting good at game you will become very dominant and will laugh about having created this post.
/r/seduction09/07/14 05:26 AM
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Join forums. Plenty of folks in your same situation there. Where are you located?
/r/seduction07/07/14 09:16 PM
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I use Justin Wayne's model of pickup (look him up on youtube) so more than half the time my sets hook unless. The only times they dont is when they seem to be in an antisocial mood or when Im not focused enough to push from open to transition. I used to have problems hooking until I learned JW's model.
/r/seduction07/07/14 09:13 PM
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It depends on the wings. I find myself being most focused when im by myself usually. Wings usually distract me because i end up in conversation with them and missing sets. However when im around people that push me i can do things that I would not normally dare to do.
/r/seduction07/07/14 09:07 PM
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I live in nyc so there are girls everywhere i go. But i prefer parks because people are more relaxed there. I dont like going to places with too many people or tourists.
/r/seduction07/07/14 01:25 PM
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Results depend on your mindset. When im very focused on the action i can get 2 instadates in the same day. This is because under this mindset I would approach focused on the approach and not on what could happen after, be it a good or bad reaction. Then when I escalate again i escalate focused on the escalation not on her reaction. I also push for a number close on every interaction longer than 1 minute, even when I dont think she will give it to me. I do this just to get that closing mentality.…
/r/seduction07/07/14 01:19 PM
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Yes! Most people are making this way too complicated. That simple line has gotten millions laid and its suddenly being contested by a 3 people. Over analysing things is not needed sometimes. This is one of those times
/r/seduction30/06/14 10:40 PM
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My hunch is you dont deal with these type of situations enough. I've had plenty of girls state that I can not go home with them. Only to end up spending a night of sex. I will go over the basics very quickly: Just because a girl isnt agreeing to something now doesnt mean she feel the same later ( the opposite is also true). If you use any of the many mehods that exist to get women turned on, you can make them do what they were not willing to do when they werent turned on. Once you are inside the…
/r/seduction30/06/14 10:11 PM
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Your question shouldnt be "what should i have done" but "how do i get rid my approach anxiety". Tackle the underlying problem not the symptoms.
/r/seduction30/06/14 07:13 PM
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Or you can use both, which is what youre supossed to do in the first place and is why the bathroom trivk works. You come out of the bathroom and ask her to show you that cool thing you spoke about. But its almost guaranteed that using the "show me that cool thing you told me about" as an excuse to go inside will not work unless you have been on many dates already.
/r/seduction30/06/14 07:06 PM
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Most girls are smart enough to read through this and say no. The bathroom excuse is best because refusing it can make them feel bad that you might really need to use the bathroom.
/r/seduction30/06/14 04:21 PM
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Well they do have a fair point in using pseudonyms. Its difficult having a lifestyle of a womanizer while trying to keep your family members and other loved ones who are stuck in the social narrative from freaking out. The funny thing about pickup is that for many, once they get into it they revolve their whole life around it, and this makes it difficult to maintain a "normal" life so they have to create a separation between their normal life and pickup, which is why PUAs often create nicknames …
/r/seduction23/06/14 11:29 PM
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How are you not coming off as too available when you propose a day but she counter offers and you agree to the day of her choice so easily? Isnt that he definition of too avaliable? Isnt that putting her in the chooser frame and you in the chasing frame? Im not saying your method will be innefective at getting the date but my method makes her invest more. You want to maximize her investment in every way possible. Plus the ball is now in your court because you are the one picking the final day wh…
/r/seduction12/06/14 05:44 PM
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Stop trying to be in control man, thats what a fearful man does. And you know what? Anytime you ask a girl a question you are putting the ball on her court because you are waiting for her answer. I say asking her out likethis makes her invest more because instead of a yes or no answer she will have to look at schedule, make a conclusion, and then give you a selection of days for YOU to pick. So in fact shes puttin the ball on Your court now plus she did half the scheduling work which saves you t…
/r/seduction12/06/14 12:07 PM
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That makes no sense. Theres great likelihood she might be busy that day and then you have to keep proposing different days. Why not just save time and ask her what days shes free and compare that to your schedule? Its way more efficient and saves you time.
/r/seduction12/06/14 11:52 AM
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When asking for the date make her invest a little by asking her what days she its free rather than pro posing a specific day
/r/seduction11/06/14 10:36 PM
3

You are more likely to find quality dates at paid sites. I've been using howaboutwe for a few months and its much bette than any of the free ones.
/r/seduction29/05/14 12:21 PM
1

For god sakes do not text her that. A simple how are you will do. Lead the convo into the possibility of meeting up
/r/seduction21/05/14 05:03 PM
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Movies are never a good date idea. Its hard to escalate. Take her to a park or even better a bar
/r/seduction21/05/14 05:00 PM
1

If it was as easy as you put it I wouldn't have written this and everyone would get over their AA.
/r/seduction05/05/14 12:24 AM
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Tip: Never use the phrase "no offense", it puts people on the defensive right away, even though that's not your intention. I'm not saying that interactions with strangers are awkward, I'm saying that, specially in nonsocial environments, it can feel awkward to cold approach people. If you look at the interaction itself it may not necessarily be awkward, but what I'm referring to is our brains have been wired to feel awkward at the thought of cold approaching people. I've been getting results mor…
/r/seduction05/05/14 12:23 AM
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Lol. Surely you jest.
/r/seduction24/03/14 02:14 AM
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Thanks for this post
/r/seduction23/03/14 11:51 PM
1

Cool! Which ones?
/r/seduction23/03/14 09:10 PM
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Oh you dont say? So for centuries guys have been going to bars clubs and parks to approach women? Wait why are you even here shouldnt you be out picking up women? Clearly you dont come here to read or learn anything do you?
/r/seduction23/03/14 08:46 PM
1

I agree but at the same time it has been quoted by many coaches including Mystey and the guys at Rsd. Some people find it helpful the science behind the art.
/r/seduction23/03/14 08:29 PM
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Im sure you learned that from somewhere, either a post or a book or an article. Hence it is important to also have a must read list to provide you with the best to do list for your specific problem.
/r/seduction23/03/14 08:26 PM
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I wouldnt recommend reading all of them either. Before you pick up a self help book you should always have a goal in mind that wish to accomplish by reading that book. Same goes for reading forum posts, dont read stuff just because its there. And like any other skill, learning pickup is 80% practice and 20% theory.
/r/seduction23/03/14 08:21 PM
2

Try this exercise. Picture a piece of wood. How do you feel about it? You dont have any feelings about it, its just a plain piece of wood. Now picture a set that would give you the most anxiety. For example a girl on a rush walking towards you and maybe shes with a guy and another girl. Try to remember this "not feeling anything" feeling from before and picture yourself approaching her feeling no emotion at all. You might have to do this a few times before you can stop that automatic awkward fee…
/r/seduction23/03/14 04:29 PM
0

Why
/r/seduction28/02/14 04:51 AM
5

Dont forget the penis enlargement forum
/r/seduction26/02/14 04:53 AM
5

Looks like you did. I would've responded with "Yea they're called the Snapple pants, because the best stuff is inside" Followed by a wink and forward pelvic thursts, Ace Ventura style.
/r/seduction25/02/14 05:39 PM
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No affiliation except you are in the article? Hmm
/r/seduction19/02/14 05:10 AM
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Test it out, let me know what you think!
/r/seduction19/02/14 04:44 AM
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You did nothing wrong. I have been picking up girls using the same type of cocky funny approach and i can tell you shes one of the very few mentally inbalanced women who are put off by this approach. But again you did nothing wrong, try this approach twice more and you will see it works
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