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I definitely agree with this. After reading so much RP stuff, I figured most guys had trouble getting sex. But the men I've been close to really haven't had any trouble at all getting casual sex. This always surprises me, because according to TRP, it's super hard for men to get casual sex. I guess I also find it surprising because I don't understand what women get out of casual sex with men who clearly don't care about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/18 03:14 PM
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I have no problems with it. It's fun. I don't understand why it would put strain on the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/18 03:03 PM
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what exactly are wrong wth his optics? i thought he killed that interview, despite all the woman's derailing and twisting his words. he presented facts in a non-argumentative manner, despite her clear hostility.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/18 06:42 PM
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I'd guess that it has to do with both men and women being fat. The fat men think sex is "too much work" or "physically exhausting". So for them it's easier to just watch porn. Which is kind of pathetic, especially if their wife is relatively attractive and not fat. I can't blame a man for not wanting to fuck an obese woman, but I don't think this phenomenon is just because a significant proportion of woman are obese.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/18 10:55 AM
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Most women would become single mothers. lol. why would they do that? there is absolutely an economic downside. they're seen as trashy and low class. they'll have a very difficult time getting married - and definitely not to a higher value man. i have no idea what child support payments are, but i'm guessing they're not much if a couple has never been married. she loses all free time to care for the child. single motherhood is a drain on a woman's time, finances, ability to work. if a woman has n…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/18 10:36 AM
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i am red. i just like pink so that's why it's my flair. and i am VERY aware that not all marriages are happy. i grew up in a UMC/UC area where most women spent A LOT of time and money on their appearance. even at 60, my mom is slim, colors her hair, takes care of herself, goes to the dermatologist, etc. same with many of my friends' moms from the area i grew up in. i don't think these women would do all of that if they didn't care what their husbands thought. now my parents live in a different c…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/18 08:29 PM
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UMC/UC America, mostly white, college educated people. And the divorce rate for first marriages is closer to 30%. The divorce rate for ALL marriages has been steadily decreasing and is closer to 40%.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/18 01:23 PM
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yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/18 12:58 PM
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but there are lots of men who do want to commit. or who press for commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/18 12:50 PM
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yes - and internet strangers who had to resort to TRP to attract women. the vast majority of my friend's parents are still married. and this is where i think social class comes into play. i am curious about what massive problems most women become when you LTR them though.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/18 12:49 PM
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i really can't tell if you're being snarky or genuine.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/18 12:41 PM
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i've never waited longer than like a week or two. men seem to make up their minds pretty quickly in my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/18 12:36 PM
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lol. the guy i am dating has an extensive sexual and dating history. so by your own definition that makes him high quality. i was not looking for a relationship as i had just gotten out of one. he pressed commitment, not me. you can interpret that however way you want. everyone is flawed in some way, some more than others.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/18 12:30 PM
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maybe you're the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/18 12:15 PM
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most kids will be born out of wedlock very soon and that is a bad thing. kids born out of wedlock do much worse than those raised in a family with two married parents. Women of value wont tolerate it, but they wont know hes got a soft harem from day 1. They will sleep with the guy and may not find out for months wrong. do you think all women are idiots? if i'm dating a guy and he doesn't bring up exclusivity relatively quickly, i'm going to move on. or if he's MIA all the time, it's not hard to …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/18 12:12 PM
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it still wouldn't compare to the harm done by wasting the time of many girls through the years spent one the "pussy carousel". women aren't forced to participate on the carousel. it's a choice. there is no incentive for them to get married, even if they do it, its because they are making a mistake, how is is a mistake? children who grow up with two married parents do much, much better than their peers with unmarried parents. if a man wants children and cares about their well-being that is one ve…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/18 11:46 AM
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Men of value usually want families, so they'll commit to a woman they deem appropriate. Women of value won't tolerate being a part of a harem.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/18 11:44 AM
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seems like a pretty low bar.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/18 11:40 AM
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blue pillers keep on suggesting to find high quality women like it's easy . it could be that blue pillers are higher quality - which is why they don't have to resort to RP tactics - and thus have an easier time attracting high quality women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/18 11:28 AM
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I see rp ideals as guidelines I consider that a healthy approach and one that I also take. Unfortunately, many terpers take TRP as gospel. I've read comments on the TRP sub that have said there is no possible way that a female could agree with RP tenets, which is BS, as evidenced by the many RP females in this sub. There is subtlety in TRP ideology, I just don't think many terpers take the time to understand it. A great example is AWALT: all women have predispositions towards certain behaviors, …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/18 10:46 AM
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it's just idiotic liberal university propaganda so they can spout BS claims that 1 in 4 women are sexually assaulted on college campuses.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/18 11:38 PM
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Sure if she's got a ring on, but there are lots of situations where none of those apply. If a woman is at a bar or a club, waiting in line at the coffee shop, or sitting in a lecture ...what is there to tell a man that she is uninterested in him? I have a boyfriend, but I don't keep my head pointed to the ground at all times. If a guy hits on me, I politely decline. He has no way of knowing I'm taken and uninterested. If he's not an asshole, why should I be one?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/18 11:35 PM
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ltrs lead to complacency only if you let them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/18 10:30 PM
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I disagree. If I'm in a relationship, I care about my partner's happiness and sexual satisfaction and want to do everything I can to please him. I've never been a plate and would not be okay with being a plate, but I'd imagine I'd be less emotionally invested in someone who isn't emotionally invested in me and thus would care a whole lot less about their satisfaction. Alternatively, find a woman with a high sex drive (and not on hormonal BC). I have always wanted to try new things while in relat…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/18 10:26 PM
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Exactly. Being with a new person is exciting in and of itself, so you're less likely to try different things. Whereas if you're fucking the same person everyday, you're gonna want to try lots of different stuff. You're also more comfortable with each other and able to tell each other what you like and don't like. I learned so much about giving BJs from my boyfriends (mainly my first BF cause he could usually only get off from anal and BJs lol). I don't think that level of communication happens d…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/18 10:22 PM
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trp rightfully pointed out that single moms are trash and no good for relationships. is this really news to most people? this seems to be where the class divide comes into play. most UMC/UC people look down on single moms, no RP conditioning required.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/18 08:11 PM
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start fucking at 18, that gives 2 years, or roughly one guy a month. definitely doable if she's in college. i had a roommate that racked up 30 guys in like 6 months. she wasn't even that attractive. it's crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/18 08:03 PM
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you get a lot more practice in an LTR, just sayin.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/18 07:56 PM
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RP started out as a way for nerdy guys to follow a formula to attract more women. This was to appeal to the types of men who are good at following rules, but aren't so good at interpreting social interactions, or interactions with women. I believe this is why TRP is so black and white on many things. BP doesn't really have an ideology the way that RP does (nothing against BP here). They just think RP is wrong. I agree with RP ideas, but I realize life is complex. That's the main thing that pisse…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/18 07:44 PM
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How is a man supposed to know she is uninterested? He literally will not know unless he asks. Men are not mind readers.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/18 07:27 PM
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why is it so hard to politely say no? just say no, you don't have to be a bitch. it's no wonder that TRP became a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/18 10:00 AM
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Sadly, yes. My university does an annual survey on sexual harassment (which is total BS). Some questions include "is being complimented by someone you are not interested in sexual harassment?" Or "is being asked on a date by someone you are not interested in sexual harassment?" And the majority of respondents said that it is. I suppose there is a bias in who answers those surveys (I never did). But it's still ridiculous and sad. I don't want to live in a world where guys are afraid to hit on wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/18 09:57 AM
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i personally have always wanted a nice engagement ring. don't know why, i just do. i grew up with nice things, so maybe that is part of it. i couldn't care less about a wedding. so i started saving for it, because i don't have an issue with splitting the cost of an engagement ring if it means i get something i like. i am not exactly frugal, but i always budget to save 20% of my income. maybe i just have weird priorities, but i know i'd hate wearing a ring i didn't like for the rest of my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/18 07:12 AM
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There is a low demand for casual sex from nerds, but a high supply. And since the demand is pretty inelastic, most nerds aren't gonna get casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 07:13 AM
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I’m wondering if there is a group that promotes strategies for female supremacy in relationships. Most women don't want this, hence why there are no groups for it. Hypergamy and all that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 06:44 AM
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Probably something other than starfish.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 06:34 AM
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Casual sex is not a necessity. Intimate relationships are important, but there are avenues other than casual sex through which men can get that fulfillment.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 05:43 AM
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The redpill says no. Go to the gym, develop a fun life, sort your mental problems,face rejection and and you'll get casual sex This is not at all exclusive to RP. Any well-adjusted person could tell you that working on yourself will help you romantically. How this is not intuitive to some people is beyond me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 05:37 AM
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Supply and demand.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 05:26 AM
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I don't really have any issue with RP concepts or men resorting to them. But in the past 4 or so years I've been reading it, it's become pretty mysogynistic, especially the TRP sub. My other issue with it is they leave no room for ambiguity, everything is just black and white. Together, those spawn an unhealthy mentality, especially for disenfranchised males. If guys stuck to the basic RP tenets, that would be one thing. Why don't women care that some men can't get casual sex and mock them for t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 05:18 AM
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the new tax plan just gets rid of the individual mandate. that means that health insurance companies can offer insurance plans that don't comply with the ACA regulations. which means people can get cheaper, non-ACA compliant plans (like they had prior to the passage of obamacare). this will reduce the cost of health insurance for many people. there is no reason why a 50 year-old woman needs reproductive services included in her insurance coverage - and yet obamacare mandated that ALL health plan…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/17 11:26 PM
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If you want men to no longer be forced to support kids they don't want you should join us over in the socialist camp and support an expansive socialist welfare state. i'd rather die.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/17 09:37 PM
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when? and why would shotgun marriages result from financial abortion? that makes no sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/17 09:31 PM
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no it's definitely the cervix that i'm talking about. most men don't hit the cervix during sex since it ascends when a woman is sexually aroused. the cervix also changes position throughout the month, so it's more likely to be hit at certain times of the month.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/17 09:28 PM
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yes i do. if a woman realizes she'll be receiving no child support, be left to raise a child with no supporting partner, and little to no welfare to rely on, her options will be very limited unless she has a high paying job. women can be rational.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/17 09:17 PM
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It's not fair. That's why I support financial abortion. Men should be given a short window of time to decide whether they want the child. If they don't, then the woman can decide whether or not to keep it, considering she won't receive any child support. But I also strongly believe that for this to work, welfare for single mothers would have to be significantly reduced. Otherwise the taxpayers would ultimately be footing the bill.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/17 12:41 PM
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big dicks can hurt, especially if they hit your cervix. i'm assuming that giant dildos are similar.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/17 10:47 AM
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idk there were a whole lot of terpers agreeing with that post. terpers who supposedly have their shit together.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/17 10:16 AM
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yea i am aware they are angry lol. it just seems illogical to believe that the only value a woman could possibly have is sex. i see couples all the time who seem to enjoy spending time together. and i know most men don't believe this. i was hoping to get insight from the men who do believe that women are only good for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/17 09:38 AM
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I heard women said men's only worth is to buy them things .... lol that's sad. i feel guilty when guys spend too much on me. that because you're an attractive women, men see your SMV and so enjoy doing stuff with you because of your look i've considered this possibility, but i'm assuming that unattractive couples spend time together too lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/17 09:28 AM
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As I said, dogs can do all of that better than women. maybe for YOU personally. my SO would much prefer my companionship to that of a dog. but then he's not an asocial shut-in.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/17 08:39 AM
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Because those views are such a stark contrast to what I experience in real life, it makes me curious why certain men feel that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/17 07:57 AM
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weird. my SO likes to spend time with me - and most of the time we aren't fucking. same with my prior relationships. so clearly they all got something other than just sex out of the relationship (companionship, support, someone to do fun stuff with). I'd never trust a woman to stick with me when things get hard. men are more likely to leave their terminally ill wives, so clearly men can be just as fickle.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/17 06:29 AM
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then maybe you're just dating the wrong women. i do all those things for my SO and we don't even live together. and i don't hate doing it either, i like doing things to make my SO's life easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/17 06:07 AM
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Companionship, support, having someone who is there for you, not having to come home to an empty house every single night. In my experience, guys I've dated like and want these things. Also domestic stuff like cooking, cleaning, laundry. Sure guys can do that themselves, but in my experience, guys have really appreciated when I do those things for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/17 07:34 PM
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So if I am an engineer making $70k to pay for my lifestyle, does that make me a career woman or a girl with a job? Because to me, it's just a job to pay for the stuff I want and to save so I don't have to do it forever. By your definition, that makes me a career woman, whereas I just see it as a means to an end.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/17 06:46 PM
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I was actually thinking the same thing when you posted those stats. But would a female doctor turned SAHM consider herself a doctor or SAHM for self-reporting on surveys? I'd tend to think most would still call themselves a doctor, even if they don't practice anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/17 06:34 PM
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And many, many female doctors retire early or only work part time. Basically once they pay off their loans and start a family, they either stop working or reduce their hours significantly. Compare that to male doctors, who frequently continue to work even past retirement age. I suspect that this will be a problem in the near future as there is already a doctor shortage and with increasing female enrollment in med school, the problem will likely get worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/17 06:10 PM
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Idk, my dad's good friend paid for his daughter to go to medical school and she went on to become a very successful anesthesiologist. Then she had 3 kids and stopped working, before she turned 40. It's crazy to me that she'd invest that much time to become a doctor, only to quit after practicing for barely 10 years. It's like it was just something to do with her time. She wasn't middle class to begin with, probably on the fringes of UC. Similarly, my dad offered to pay for my sister to go to med…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/17 06:01 PM
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For most people it's an educated professional on salary from 50-90k a year Really? I always interpreted it as a woman in a high powered job, making more like $150k+. I'm thinking big law lawyers, doctors, upper management. $50-90k is a desk job, I don't really see that as "career woman" status.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/17 05:52 PM
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Besides that, most people know what's going on inside their own head and might very well seek therapy on their own I think you'd be surprised. Not everyone is an overly emotional feeler who spends inordinate amounts of time trying to understand their feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/17 05:38 PM
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No they married them because of their similar social class, which entails certain values, level of education, social circles, which is important to men from UMC/UC backgrounds. My dad is a real estate developer and he married my mom who was a lawyer turned SAHM. He wasn't gonna marry some low class hottie to bear and raise his children, even if he'd fuck them. Also if UMC/UC men want smart children (which I'm assuming most of them do), they'd want to marry a woman of similar intelligence, which …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/17 07:51 PM
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UMC/UC men don't want to marry and permnenantly attach themselves to a lower class woman. They'll have different values, different education levels, run in different circles. The lower class woman won't meet the standards of a UMC/UC man's family. All of those things are important in the context of marriage. So while a UMC/UC man might fuck and casually date lower class women, they aren't going to spend the rest of their lives with them or trust them to raise their children to UMC/UC standards. …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/17 07:45 PM
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Eh. They're not exactly low quality either. I am definitely surprised by the guys that are interested in her, since I'd consider her pretty fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/17 06:52 PM
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idk my younger sister is pretty fat (5'9" and like 185) and she is still picky AF. she doesn't seem to have any trouble in getting interest from guys, she just has no interest in most of them. i guess she has a pretty face (minus being fat), so that works in her favor.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 07:57 PM
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oh gotcha. that makes sense. i could never wait two months to have sex with a guy, it would mean i'm not attracted.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 07:54 PM
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no. chubby women will get more interest than short guys, though i guess it depends what you definition of "chubby" is (i'm thinking overweight, but not obese).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 07:49 PM
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so you're saying that men will have casual sex with women that they don't feel any attraction and/or lust for? just the idea of fucking a girl right after meeting her is enough? Women are just simply focused on the feelings and chemistry they have with men. Once the chemistry or tension they feel about a guy builds up enough, they are ready to have sex. both of my most recent relationships started with sex almost immediately. the current one was completely casual, no expectations of long term co…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 07:44 PM
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no fucking way. tbh i'd rather he discretely cheat (no emotions involved) than anything remotely close to weirdo polyamory. i don't have to settle for either though, so i won't.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 07:33 PM
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Do you know your MBTI type?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/17 07:28 PM
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Mmm no. Pretty women might always have guys crushing on them, that doesn't make them orbiters. Also pretty, young women have no trouble finding boyfriends if they are "caught short". There is no need for a backup. I think the women most likely to have orbiters are probably average in appearance and obsessed with social media. I've never had a backup. I don't get the point of having close male friends when I'm in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/17 11:17 AM
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You don't care that that same drive isn't focused on something more productive? Like what? What is more productive than working out? You get one body in life, why wouldn't you want to take care of that body? Working out releases endorphins, reduces stress, reduces risk of disease. Being fit also makes you more attractive to potential partners and to people in general. Also lifting boosts testosterone in men, which has many benefits. His results won't be minimal if he puts effort into it. That me…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/17 08:52 AM
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Yes. I'd rather date a guy with muscle and a few extra lbs than one who is as skinny as the guy in the picture. It's also a matter of drive. Does the guy have the drive to improve his physique? Drive is very attractive. Also I'm an ectomorph and a female so I know the struggles of putting on muscle, but it's not impossible. Eat more calories + protein, lift heavier weights. If a a tall skinny guy said he was an ectomorph and therefore couldn't gain much muscle so there's no point to working out,…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/17 06:38 PM
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Ah yeah. I guess I do ask if he's tried stuff before and he asks the same of me, but that's pretty much the extent of it. I did drunkenly ask if he'd ever had a threesome, not really sure why. I am not a jealous person either. I just don't see my SO's sexual history impacting the relationship one way or another, so I don't ever ask. I think I'd actually be more bothered if he had less experience than I did.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/17 06:23 PM
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I agree with you on everything except lifting. All guys should lift. It's not that hard. You don't have to be a bodybuilder, or spend 10 hours/week in the gym, but at least show that you care about your appearance and physique. It comes off as lazy and indifferent when guys can't be bothered to work out.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/17 06:11 PM
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No, probably just disgusted. My ex got a BJ from a stripper during some bachelor party in Mexico while we were dating (like 6 months into the relationship). He told me as soon as he got back. I was just disgusted and wished that he hadn't told me. It didn't have any effect on the relationship though. And it never really came up again nor did it change my opinion of him. I guess that's kind of different than needing to see a prostitute to get sex though, which I would see as desperate.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/17 05:47 PM
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I personally agree with you that I don't feel a need to know my SO's sexual history. There are tells that my SO has an extensive sexual past and I don't really want to know any more than that. But all the guys I've dated seemed to care about my sexual history. I don't mind talking about it, I'd rather my SO be comfortable with my sexual past than wonder.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/17 05:42 PM
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That seems like such a weird question to bring up. Do you ask about how many people your SO has slept with too? That just doesn't seem like a very productive question. But then I guess I don't really care about SOs past sexual history.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/17 05:27 PM
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I think you completely ignored the meaning of my comment. men and women are different. there are innate BIOLOGICAL differences (see: hormones, cognitive abilities, and structural composition of the brain as I previously mentioned). these have wide ranging implications that you are choosing to ignore. it's why men do the approaching, it's why men and women often cheat for different reasons (not that I agree with cheating), it's why men are more competitive, aggressive, and have higher libidos (he…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 01:27 PM
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I kinda agree with you on the whole staying hot after 40+ thing not falling solely on the woman. Like if I'm gonna pop out babies for him one day, my husband better help pay for my boob job to restore my tits to pre-baby. Or a facelift for when I'm like 50 or whatever. Honestly I spend way more than $50 for a nice dress and I'm 23 and I have a good body. Nice clothes just look better, regardless of whether you're in shape or not. A lot of men don't understand this, but they'll notice it when you…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 01:09 PM
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Gym memberships cost $$$. And if you’re like me and have no idea how to use the machines you wu need to pay $100-200 for a personal trainer to show you. gym memberships are cheap. you can find a decent lifting gym for $30-$50/month. There are subs dedicated to fitness, websites that will show you proper form and how to squat/deadlift/etc. You don't need a personal trainer. Personal trainers are completely unnecessary and a waste of money. You can buy Strong Curves for like $20 and take it to the…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 12:37 PM
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AF/BB
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 12:15 PM
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men are physically larger and stronger. hormone compositions are vastly different in men and women. there are also differences in cognitive abilities and structural composition of the brain. men are less responsive to oxytocin released during sex, but more responsive to vasopressin (which promotes mate guarding and a dampened emotional response after sex). these hormones alone have significant implications for sexual relationships. it's not hypocrisy if there are real measurable differences betw…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 12:06 PM
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She has serious issues. BPD is a lifelong personality disorder. I don't know why any man would subject himself to that. And was she really "raped"? BPD are known to be manipulative and attention-seeking, so I kinda doubt it. Also, she does not have high RMV/MMV.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 11:30 AM
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Sexist, for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 11:02 AM
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it's not "unethical" to have a high n-count. But you have to accept that most men will consider it an unattractive trait for a long term partner. It seems to be an innate preference for a lot of men. It isn't slut-shaming to have dating preferences, people can't exactly control what they're attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 10:56 AM
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Yes, it is one of the most important traits that I personally look for. I also have a significantly above average IQ and I find it hard to submit to someone who is not that smart or close to my intelligence. I don't like second guessing my partner and I like being able to trust that they know what they're talking about. I'm guessing that if I was of average intelligence then I wouldn't place such a high priority on it. So for me, it is hypergamous requirement and I'd prefer the guy have close to…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/17 01:09 AM
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"I never want to get married and/or have kids" it seems out of frustration and saying it because they want it to be true, but are terribly lonely underneath it all. This view seems much more prevalent on Reddit than in the general population. Most men I've met in real life want kids and marriage at some point. Weirdly, quite a few of my female friends have said they never want kids or are very unsure. This might be an age thing though because most of these females are early 20s. I personally am …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 09:05 PM
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TRP also attracts many below average men who don't have success with women, so of course their experiences are going to be biased.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 08:49 PM
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Men, particularly when in comes to the upper social classes, also need to find someone that his family and social group finds valuable to commit to. In addition to good looks, these women need to have proper manners, some formal education, be from good families, personable, etc. A high value man in an upper social class isn't going to marry an 18 year-old stripper. She could be hot, but can he stay married to her for the rest of his life? Probably not. Lots of men do care what their families and…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/17 06:25 PM
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No. Because I am not ready for a child right now. I am not married, I can not support a child, I do not want a child at this point in my life. I DO very much want them in the future, when I am married. What do you expect to happen to all those babies born in these artificial wombs? Who is going to care for them? This country has enough single mothers, we already spend way too much on welfare. We don't need more children who can not be adequately cared for.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/17 03:49 PM
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Hah why would I spend my precious time and energy trying to get with a guy who doesn't want to be with me? If a guy wants a relationship, then yes, I have lots to offer. Support, companionship, affection, taking care of him, domestic stuff. Most guys I've met seem to want that stuff. I would never try to get a player to drop his plates, I want nothing to do with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/17 11:39 AM
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It might not be honest in your fictional scenario. But most women talking about "my body my choice" are dealing with real life. The prospect of carrying a child for 9 months, giving birth, and then dealing with the repercussions of giving birth...it changes your body forever. Do you somehow not understand that? I'm 23, I'm not ready to change my body forever. Hence my body my choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/17 11:25 AM
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I have a list of names in my notepad app on my cellular phone which keeps track of how many women Ive been with, sexually or long term wise. Lol why?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/17 11:08 AM
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I'm pretty sure she hates relationships or something like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/17 10:51 AM
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what are you even saying man? that men first think: "is she hot?" and then worry about all the other stuff after. and men will fuck a woman even if they don't think she's smart/personable/funny/etc. she just has to be hot. i.e. my boyfriend thought I was hot, but didn't know me personally. so his options were: a) date me if he liked my personality/intelligence or b) try to fuck me. but if i had been ugly, he would not have considered either of those options and likely wouldn't have even noticed …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/17 06:52 AM
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you can get a bf by only being smart, assuming that you are smart enough of course. no you can't. my boyfriend likes that i'm smart, but he would never have found that out if he hadn't first thought i was hot. for men, intelligence is an afterthought that is really only relevant to long term relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 03:04 AM
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it is not the public's responsibility to find out if some man's baby is really theirs. that is ludicrous. how does that benefit the public in any way? i agree that paternity testing should be more prevalent, but it should be the responsibility of the parents to pay for it. like you said, it is not prohibitively expensive ($300-500) and it certainly cheaper than supporting a child that is not yours for 18 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/17 07:00 PM
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For the most part, we don't compromise, we take turns being nice to each other. that is compromise. compromise doesn't have to be the result of an argument. it can be as simple as "i would prefer X, but since you want Y, we can do Y instead". i honestly don't know how any relationship (romantic or otherwise) would function very long without the ability to do so...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/17 08:47 PM
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the supporting partner what? so there is the lead partner and the supporting partner? the idea that compromising on what to eat for dinner seems too stressful is kind of ridiculous. how does your relationship work if you can't even decide what to eat for dinner? what about bigger plans like "where should we go on vacation?"...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/17 08:44 PM
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pretty sure there is a map of countries that compares boobs vs butt in porn searches and sure enough, it lines up pretty closed with race. edit: yup here is the link.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/17 01:39 AM
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I agree with financial abortion. I don't think women should be able to force men into having a child. Women have full autonomy over reproductive rights. There should be a short window of time where men can opt for a financial abortion so that women can plan accordingly. I also believe that there welfare should be significantly reduced for single mothers. Women wouldn't be having all these children if they knew they couldn't realistically care for them. Welfare should be a temporary safety net, n…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/17 03:59 AM
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Type 1 is the least severe type of FGM. Type 3, for example, removes the clitoris, surrounding tissue, and sews everything up into a very small hole. Which is then kept closed until a woman gets married and is ripped open to allow for sex. It is really horrific and to compare that with circumcision is a joke. Circumcision doesn't remove a male's ability to enjoy sex and it actually has a medical purpose.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/17 03:37 AM
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Then women shouldn't be shamed for fucking alphas and ignoring loser incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/17 10:51 PM
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Oh I'm not saying it's a fix, it literally makes the problem worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/17 11:24 PM
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So you want to be a woman? Women are not men, they do not think or act the same way that men do. You are complaining that women don't treat men the way men treat women. I personally would not want to see a man in the equivalent of sexy lingerie. I think a muscular, masculine man in just about any clothing looks attractive. Anecdotally, it seems like a lot of men aren’t even called physically hot and sexy by their own sexual partners, who themselves focus on personality. Because you're thinking o…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/17 06:38 PM
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I can have empathy for single men who can't find a willing partner and thus visit sex workers. I don't really have empathy for your example of the 81 year-old man who would, god forbid, have women his own age willing to have sex with him. That was honestly a terrible example if you're trying to get people to agree with you. But let's assume the 81 year old has no willing partners, then I can have empathy for him seeing a sex worker. Everyone wants a human connection.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/17 06:04 PM
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People are antisocial, unhealthy, living sedentary lives in front of their computers either playing videogames or on social media. Yeah this is the real problem. And incels want to fix it with sex robots lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/17 05:46 PM
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Idk I knew a lot of guys in college who I would consider average. And even with going out 3-4 nights a week or throwing massive house parties, they'd rarely bring home girls. There was one guy who my BF lived with (during his year in a party house with 9 other guys), who would routinely get girls. Like pretty much every night they had a party. He was not average though.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/17 05:44 PM
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Well people are having less sex than ever before, so I'd say no. Which is surprising considering the availability of things like tinder and okcupid. But as a female, I really can't see the appeal of those sites. I'm attracted to the male presence, not some awkward online bio. And I think a large majority of the women on those sites are there for validation or trying to find a boyfriend, not for an actual hookup.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/17 05:39 PM
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Yup exactly. And it's subtle, it's things like eye contact and sitting/standing close to a guy. There was a great thread on /r/askreddit about this I think. Basically all the examples women gave just seemed like normal behavior to men. Same thing with initiating sex. When I try to initiate sex, my BF rarely catches my hints.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/17 05:35 PM
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Yes, absolutely. Women are passive flirters. Some examples: eye contact, sitting close to a man, just trying to be in his general presence. Basically women flirt by trying to get a man to notice her, because women will very rarely initiate a conversation with a guy, regardless of how attractive they find him. Women want plausible deniability. And then even once they start actively talking, women are much more coy and subtle. They often expect men to carry the conversation. I liked talking to ran…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/17 05:30 PM
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Average men don't actually expect that women act like pornstars though. Well except maybe expecting women to get off every time they have sex. The main thing I could see porn changing is the variety of sex that men consider normal or mainstream.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/17 05:21 PM
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What? There was nothing about drunk driving or leaving them alone for days. It said My ex had to take over his mother's duties for his dad and 2 little brothers. He learned to cook, clean, and care for his brothers. He would make the family all their meals and wash their clothes. It was a lot for a little kid. My dad did the same thing from age 7 onward. He was an only child, but I don't think it was an undue burden on him. Was it ideal? No, but he learned a lot of valuable skills and still has …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/17 05:05 PM
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What? 12 year old girls definitely have an interest boys. Lol. I'd say that's a very normal age to be obsessed with boys in fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/17 08:44 AM
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And he still turned out to be a passive aggressive asshole.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/17 08:32 AM
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Obama....
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/17 08:29 AM
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I don't think his father sounds like an asshole. Same situation happened with my own dad, when his mother died. Iit was my dad's responsibility to take care of the household duties from the age of 7. Granted, that was 50+ years ago, but what other option would you suggest?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/17 08:18 AM
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I'm competitive. I'm very good at math and science and am an engineer. I can be overly pragmatic and logical. Have interests that seem highly male-skewed: drugs, science, politics, fitness, finance. Overall I'd say I'm male-brained but highly feminine in appearance. I also believe in traditional gender roles, despite not naturally following all of them. I also place a high priority on my appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/17 07:55 AM
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Gotcha. I don't think 18 year-old girls are that aware of mating dynamics tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/17 03:45 AM
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I pursued engineering. Hasn't harmed my mating strategy by much. I think a lot of men like the idea that you aren't just using them for their ability to provide.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/17 03:06 AM
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why do you have such a pessimistic view of relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/17 11:05 AM
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Lots of people prefer monogamy and marriage. Just because it isn't your cup of tea, doesn't mean it's a failure. Divorce rates for UMC and UC people are quite low.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/17 11:50 AM
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This pretty much describes my relationship as well. I don't really understand the pessimism associated with relationships and dating. I think the positives far outweigh the negatives and that most potential negatives can be avoided by having a partner you can trust. My boyfriend and I approach things as a team. It's nice to have someone to count on, but it also means that my happiness is tied to my partners happiness. When my boyfriend is going through a hard time, it's hard on me and I try to f…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/17 01:00 AM
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Sex is optional. Needing money to live and prosper is not. Casual sex, in particular, is of no benefit to women, yet many still seek it out. Casual sex carries risks and can have serious repercussions for women. So why would they do it if they don't even enjoy sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/17 12:34 AM
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I mean, I can't understand why else you would believe something so obviously untrue. Why would any women ever have sex if our whole gender was incapable of enjoying it?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/17 09:53 PM
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One woman I know is 39 and fat, but pretty. New Tinder guy every other week. How do you even know that? Are the 39 year-olds in your social circle announcing their tinder hookups to the world?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/17 09:47 PM
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Lift weights. You lack muscle definition. Look up Strong Curves by Bret Contreras, it's great for women who want to get into lifting and it focuses on building a more feminine and curvy physique.
/r/RedPillWomen29/07/17 09:25 PM
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Lol what... I can assure you that we do enjoy sex. Just because a woman has never enjoyed sex with you, doesn't mean that women don't enjoy sex at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/17 09:05 PM
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Sounds like the hamster of a fat girl speaking. Even my BF just confirmed...he doesn't know of any men that prefer fat girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/17 09:42 AM
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Yeah and they're a very very small minority. I have never met a chubby chaser in real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/17 04:50 AM
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What men find fat women attractive? I've never met a man who preferred a fat women to a not fat one.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/17 04:47 AM
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You're delusional. Young, attractive females can wear clothes that would be considered normal on an older women, but get ogled at. Especially in the professional world...I intentionally dress unattractively when going to work because otherwise I'm not taken seriously. In job interviews, attractive young women are discriminated against (probably by other women).
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/17 04:25 AM
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Large percentages of women in general are on antidepressants, it isn't exclusive to older women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/17 02:30 AM
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It honestly just sounds like you interact with lower class women. I went to private schools growing up and most of the moms were either SAHMs, had good jobs making a lot of money, or they worked for fun and to fill their time. Most of them were skinny, breast implants were pretty common, and they dressed well. And it wasn't just the moms from my private schools, a lot of older women in Scottsdale were like this. I think it's largely a social class thing. Oh and very few were divorced. Like I don…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/17 01:26 AM
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Any woman can become an automatic 7 if she works out and watches her calories. No they can't. women with ugly faces will never be an "automatic 7" regardless of how much time they spend in the gym. Facial attractiveness is one of the most important features that men look for in female partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/17 01:12 AM
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You mean integrating 3D objects No, I meant rotating 3D objects. Though integration of 3D objects obviously involves being able to visualize rotating them. I don't think you understand what is meant by visual spatial intelligence, which are more general than what you are implying. Spatial visualization ability or visual-spatial ability is the ability to mentally manipulate 2-dimensional, 3-dimensional and 4-dimensional figures. An example of how visual spatial reasoning relates to even very basi…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/17 05:03 AM
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Not all engineers design stuff. Electrical engineering is what I had in mind for being math heavy with Fourier transforms and whatnot. It isn't just design that requires spatial reasoning. I'm not sure how any EE could make it through multivariate calculus, for example, without having decent spatial intelligence. Fourier transforms are a weird example, since they are often represented visually and signal processing is done graphically. Understanding vector spaces also benefits from spatial intel…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/17 02:46 AM
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White babies cost more to adopt and the probability that a non-African American child will have interested potential adoptive parents is at least seven times as high as the probability for an African American child.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/17 10:43 PM
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What? Engineering is definitely about spatial reasoning. It's hugely important for being able to visualize and/or design something, which is a key part of engineering. High level math also involves significant spatial reasoning. Which engineering disciplines do not require much spatial reasoning? Instead of asking them if they are men or women and judging their talent from that, we give them these things called exams. I think you are missing the point. Someone isn't good or bad at engineering be…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/17 03:30 AM
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Idk....I know men who are very successful in their careers and have wives. They aren't mutually exclusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/17 02:24 AM
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WTF is "master human sexuality"? What does that mean? We already have capabilities to turn off the human libido, it's called chemical castration. Really...what is the point of this?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/17 02:20 AM
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A lot of states have laws that take into account the age of the other partner as well. So there is a difference between a 20 year-old with a 16 year-old and a 40 year-old with a 16 year-old.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/17 12:44 AM
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No. I think most people would still define a relationship as people who are exclusive and not casually dating or fucking other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/17 12:37 AM
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I wouldn't be surprised in relationships are down as well. A lot of my peers don't really seem to prioritize relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/17 12:34 AM
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I'm 23 and I live with my boyfriend, but we were dating for 3 years and could afford to live on our own. Only one other couple in our friend group moved in together after college. It probably has a lot to do with all the recent grads moving back in with parents. Though I've talked to a surprising number of peers who live with their SO at their parents. That seems weird to me lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/17 12:31 AM
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Really? I was just in Target with my BF the other day and we were talking about how there are noticeably fewer kids toys, like dolls and legos than when we were kids. It seems like a lot of kids toys have been replaced by video games and the like.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/17 12:15 AM
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I NEVER said that estrogen does not affect men's emotions, not once. Where are you even getting that from? I said that women have significantly higher amounts of estrogen than men. And that generally more estrogen = more emotional, and because woman are always going to have higher amounts of estrogen than men, they will be more emotional. The trans woman point was to counter your comment "I don't even think women are that emotional". Because when trans women are put on HRT, they report feeling v…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/17 11:49 PM
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My parents are my role models. They both used to be lawyers, then my dad became a real estate developer and my mom became a SAHM, so pretty traditional gender roles where my dad was head of the household. They've been married for over 30 years. They've had ups and downs, including some pretty stressful situations, but have stuck it out and seem to be happy now. I think it's been beneficial to have parents in more traditional gender roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/17 11:29 PM
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Why are those necessary? If certain women seek them out, then fine, but most women would not want to work in gender-segregated workplaces nor do they feel the need for gender-segregated workplaces. Like do most western women actually live under a constant fear of rape? I really doubt it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/17 11:20 PM
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This post is literally about how men don't experience life like women do. Men and women have different hormonal make-ups which affect their personality and emotions, and presumably experiences. You say that men and women are different except in this one, very well documented area? Maybe you need to read up on what hormones do to females, idk. I don't pretend to know what the male sex drive is like, why can't you just admit that you don't know what the female emotional mind frame is like? I don't…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/17 11:46 PM
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are you being obtuse? I never said that men don't feel more emotional when they have lower amounts of testosterone (or higher levels of estrogen), Please just re-read my comment. Even in men with low testosterone, they will still feel less emotional than the average woman who will have MUCH lower testosterone and MUCH higher estrogen. i.e. you having a low testosterone level of 300 ng/dL is no comparison to an average woman who has a testosterone level of 30 ng/dL.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/17 10:45 PM
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I'm definitely the opposite. My dad is an intimidating person that might be part of it lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/17 10:26 PM
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but men aren't given the opportunity to get that experience because people don't believe that men are capable. You see, it's a self fulfilling prophecy. Or most men just genuinely aren't interested in being babysitters.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/17 10:23 PM
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yes i have, both the general affects of hormones and the differences in hormones between men and women. I never said that men don't feel more emotional when they have lower amounts of testosterone (or higher levels of estrogen), just that even with lower testosterone, men will still have a dramatically different hormone profile than the average woman. what would be considered low testosterone for a man would still be considered VERY high for a woman. and it isn't only estrogen and testosterone t…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/17 09:42 PM
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even if your testosterone decreased somewhat, it was still much higher than a woman's testosterone levels. And women also have much higher levels of estrogen and progesterone, which cycle throughout the month. So no...having lower testosterone than normal doesn't make you experience life like a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/17 11:06 AM
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My dad is a great dad, but I basically had the same response ArthurMacArthur did. Lolz at the thought of my dad spending any time trying to decipher my feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/17 11:00 AM
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Do you think the age gap has any affect on the happiness and stability in marriage? Like do you think it's advantageous that your husband is older or does it not make much of a difference once you're married?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 10:36 PM
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what? OP described the man as "taller than her, ripped, attractive face, and is driving a Mercedes". That would be considered attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 07:08 AM
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Well, I'm sitting here in a bar and there's this heavyset woman with an unpleasant face, no job for the past year ( I just overheard her say it), no sense of style as it looks like she's in pajamas, as well as being on meds for bi-polar disorder. The guy she's with is taller than her, ripped, attractive face, and is driving a Mercedes. Where do you live that this is normal? I have never witnessed this happen. Maybe fat, unattractive, unpleasant women get hit on, but it is certainly not by attrac…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 01:40 AM
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When getting in a fight over something trivial, he damaged my car and hit my face. That was the only time he physically hurt me, usually he was just incredibly intimidating. Though honestly I don't actually think that was the worst thing. He was constantly starting fights because I wanted to make some female friends during my freshman year of college and he was not okay with that. He also said I had to choose between my friends and him because "they were a bad influence" (this was in high school…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/17 08:47 PM
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New York City has significantly more women than men, with 53% women and 47% men, which is a larger gender imbalance than most other cities in the US. Also NYC has the largest number of gay people in the US, with ~4% of men between 18-44 being gay. So there really are significantly fewer straight men in NYC, especially in places like Manhattan. I'm not saying she is perfect. But she doesn't complain about the trouble of getting a boyfriend in southern california. Maybe what she is saying has some…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/17 03:37 PM
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Through my social circle. He was best friends with a roommate's boyfriend and they would often come over. Also we were in the same physics lecture freshman and sophomore year. Apparently that is where he first saw me and decided I was hot lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/17 03:37 AM
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Well I was in a relationship when I met him, so I wasn't really considering him as a partner. I would say he grew on me though, because I broke up with my ex (of 4 years) for him after ~6 months of knowing each other. .
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/17 02:01 AM
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why are so many of you women having casual sex? Most women are NOT having casual sex though. It's a small minority that TRP likes to focus on.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 11:55 PM
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its confirmation that you are physically attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 11:53 PM
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you think it's easier for a girl to get into an LTR with someone of equivalent SMV than for a man to do so? Aren't men the gatekeepers of commitment?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 11:51 PM
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Yea I agree. Even under 25, they're so cringey. Especially when you consider that most people are friends with their whole extended family, in-laws, teachers, coworkers, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 11:23 PM
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Yes. You have to keep your partner attracted to you even after you're committed. You can't just go from hottie to obese cow and expect your partner to want to stay with you, much less be attracted. It doesn't suck if you like feeling sexually attractive, which I'd argue most people DO like (whether they actually put in the effort to be sexually attractive is another matter).
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 11:18 PM
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Attractive women will get all sorts of likes and comments from random males even if the pictures are NOT overly sexual. I don't post cleavage selfies on Facebook, but I still get lots of comments and likes from guys I barely know. Could these lead to more options? Well yeah, of course. I'm sure if I responded to some random guy on Facebook, he'd be all for it. But how in that any different than the men I interact with in my day-to-day ( at the gym, work, grocery shopping, etc)? those men could b…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 11:14 PM
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no, it makes sense. lots of bluepillers are childfree or pro-childfree. While many red pillers are tradcons.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 07:37 AM
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Yup basically this. He became really controlling.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 01:08 AM
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How does it not make sense?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 01:00 AM
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It didn't start out bad, but my ex became very controlling. By the end of that relationship, I basically had no friends and felt like I needed my ex or I wouldn't have anyone. It was very unhealthy. Also I was pretty young, we broke up right after I turned 20. Looking back, I wish I'd ended it much sooner.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 12:58 AM
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Opposed to having children, I'd assume.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/17 04:44 PM
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well I'm moving with my BF (again) and we are probably getting married in a few years. So I think I'm pretty far committed at this point. Honestly I would only look for someone else if I wasn't happy in my relationship. And I was really unhappy in my last relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/17 04:40 PM
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Nobody hopefully lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/17 04:30 PM
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Idk it varies pretty widely. Some had relationships that would last 1-2 years, others couldn't manage to lockdown a long term boyfriend but would hook up with the guy they were dating. On average, they probably had 1-3 new partners a year in college (the non-slutty ones). My really slutty roomate hooked up with over 30 guys in less than a year after ending her LTR. Another good friend hooked up with a similar number during her first year of college. Neither were particularly attractive. There is…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 04:29 AM
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~10-20%. A couple friends were huge sluts, the rest didn't seem to have sex outside of dating or relationships. I did not and do not, as I have been in one relationship or another since I was 15.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 12:11 AM
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Weight lifting, rock climbing, running, skiing, cooking, walking the dog. I enjoy doing these things with my bf. He is usually the main person that I go climbing, skiing, or walking with. As for working out, I prefer doing that by myself. My bf also likes working on cars, drifting, and video games. we definitely don't share in all of our hobbies.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/17 01:26 AM
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Nobody says that. They say, AFTER the man has met a baseline physical requirement, personality matters more than increasing attractiveness
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/17 07:19 AM
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But what im saying though is that women often flat out deny this and say that a man's looks is of little importance Women say they'll date an ugly guy when they can date a hot one instead? I don't think so. Some women probably emphasize personality because they assume that the man has already met her minimum physical requirements. There is a threshold of attractiveness that a man must meet and then after that, personality matters much more (i.e id rather have a 7/10 with with a good personality …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/17 07:17 AM
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. They might not be ball busters by nature, but they'd be comfort testing all the way to "I'm going to kill myself!" if they were exposed to the true version of men they pretend to be with. I realize that I would be totally uncomfortable with a truly dominant man. RPWs don't like to admit that their man isn't very "alpha", as if it's some sort of status symbol.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/17 05:16 AM
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Women can be visual, while still being less visual than men. And they can still be horny and want sex, but significantly less so than men. Women don't prioritize looks to the same extent that men do. That doesn't mean they don't prioritize looks. Everyone prioritizes looks to a certain extent. Nobody is going to choose the ugly person over the attractive person if they have the choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/17 05:11 AM
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men settle for porn because many cannot get the quality or caliber of woman they want. it's a response to women's stranglehold on the sexual market. how is this women's fault? if anything, it's a man's fault for not being attractive enough...and not caring enough to become attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/17 05:03 AM
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Perhaps "truly equal" just means equal before the law. How are woman treated unequally by the law? If anything, women are treated better "before the law". They get shorter prison sentences, less harsh punishments. Women also get more welfare, more likely to get sole custody of children. They're also more likely to get hired to fill diversity quotas which is a huge advantage. Women get hired over more competent men, especially for roles in CS and engineering, which I don't think is fair even if i…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 08:42 PM
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Maybe that's what YOU think of tall men, but it is not what was signaled to women for thousands of years. It is also noted that height is a “masculine” characteristic. Taller men may be seen as more dominant and assertive (Melamed, 1992). In evolutionary terms, a larger man may have been able to provide more protection to their offspring, have greater genetic qualities to pass on to their future children, and thus may be awarded with greater social status. In line with this idea that height is a…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 03:38 AM
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I am not BP.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 10:43 PM
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But I am already attracted to men who are taller than myself. My friends and family aren't changing my mind. They're just reminding me of a quality that I already find unattractive. I have always been attracted to taller guys. I can remember being 12 years old and not liking guys because they were shorter than myself. Idk why this is so surprising, it makes sense from an evolutionary standpoint. ALSO men like being taller than their partners. It is not just that women like taller partners, men p…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 10:39 PM
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Yes I am perfectly happy with dating men within my league. If I wasn't, I could presumably work to increase my SMV through stuff like plastic surgery.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 10:14 PM
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That's fine. I have DDs. People are allowed to have preferences. What is so wrong with that? I don't have trouble getting male attention so I am given the option to date men who are taller than myself. Why would I purposely settle for someone I don't find attractive? That makes no sense. I also won't date men who are obese or non-white.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 10:08 PM
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I wouldn't date a guy who is shorter than I am. Maybe part of it is the expectation that a man will be taller. My ex was the exact same height as I am (5'9) and my mom would always point it out and say I should find someone taller. Or friends would ask "omg are you taller than your BF?" or something similar. I hate that shit. Also I just find it unattractive. It's a mental thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 09:58 PM
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Height is a deal breaker for me. I am 5'9" and I will only date men who are taller than me. They don't have to be way taller, an inch is fine, just as long as they are taller. My BF is just under 5'11. i just find it unattractive to be taller than a guy. I like feeling small and submissive and I don't feel that way when I am taller.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 09:54 PM
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Yea I am truly confused how people ignore this. It's not like there aren't low SMV women in the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 05:58 AM
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So, only issues that apply to the majority of the people who post here, can be posted Fringe issues are fine, in small amounts. But incels don't post in small amounts and instead overrun the sub. the amount of denial that surfaces from normies every time "incels" is brought up. This is laughable. The denial comes from incels who think that regular advice doesn't apply to them. "Normies" tell incels what to work on and incels refuse, because they think they're special and that normal rules of soc…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 02:13 AM
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To have a children in middle school at 35, a woman would have to have her kids by 23. Most college-educated women don't finish having their children by 23.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/17 08:55 PM
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Women are most attractive in their early 20s. I think that's what the OP was referring to when he said "peak of her youth".
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/17 08:49 PM
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You still have not answered my main question, which is: what am I supposed to understand about incels? Be specific. Don't just say "incels". And then, WHY would I want to understand incels? I don't try to understand radical feminists because I don't think they're rational, just like I don't think many incels are rational. And you can say "not all incels are like that". Yea okay. But when the woman-hating, sexual socialism posts are overwhelmingly upvoted on /r/incel, it shows that MOST incels ag…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/17 08:34 PM
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Disabled obese people are atypical. Don't twist my words. You are talking about the bottom of the SMV distribution. Only a small portion of the population can be at the very bottom of the scale, that's how the distribution works. So where you are seeing all these very low SMV women I do not know. Do you also see a lot of 10s? Regardless WHEN I see obese women, they are rarely with normal looking guys, though sometimes they are. Often I see two obese people together. But obese AND disabled? I don…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/17 08:07 PM
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Even so, it's a fringe issue that is not applicable to the majority of people who post here. And there is really nothing to debate. Incels are unsuccessful sexually? Nobody is debating that. So what exactly do incels want to debate? It seems like most of their posts are pity parties. And they're given the same advice every time.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/17 07:22 PM
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Get rid of affirmative action, diversity requirements, etc. Hire the best person for a job, not the person who is going to fill the diversity quota. The latter is very common.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/17 12:44 AM
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Incels ruin the sub by only posting about their incel problems, overrunning the sub for a fringe issue. Most men are not incels and yet they overwhelmingly want to post all over this sub and frame every issue as an incel issue. And it isn't even clear what incels want, other than to wallow in pity. This is not /r/inceldebate.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 09:28 PM
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I have done "research" on incels. I've read their ever frequent posts on this sub and have ventured onto the incel sub a number of times (mostly for shock value I suppose). I just can't related to incels, for the reasons I mentioned before: they don't think that they should work on themselves and they think that sexual socialism would be a better and more fair system than what is currently in place. If getting women is something valuable to a man, then he would make efforts to improve himself. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 09:16 PM
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Have you looked though? Yes. And I honestly don't see that many obese people and I rarely see people who are both obese and disabled. I don't live in a place where disabled obese people are the norm. I would consider them to be at the very bottom of the SMV scale and thus atypical. Most people are average. Even when I was in college (last year), obese people were atypical. There were lots of chubby or slightly overweight people, but not disabled hambeasts.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 08:36 PM
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Or the obese male could lose weight so as not to be obese.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 05:11 AM
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I do not see severely overweight women with deformities dating normal men. Sometimes I see overweight women with normal men and I do often think that men date down. But if you're talking about obese women with deformities, I don't see them dating normal men or dating at all, tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 05:10 AM
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I have no idea. I have only looked at the incel sub in passing. I am clearly not an incel and have no reason to spend any significant amount of time on their sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 04:57 AM
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Why do they not count as actual incels? I totally believe that women with disformities can't find a partner, which it sounds like many of those women are. they're women with unrealistically high standards Incel men also have unrealistic standards for their SMV. Why would I want to do any research? Any time I've looked at an Incel/FA sub, I am in disbelief that people can be so hateful and pessimistic and backwards. They don't want to improve themselves and instead argue for sexual socialism. I b…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 04:54 AM
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Right. Forgo a job making $70k at 23 to instead stay close to my family and work some dead end job unrelated to what I want to do. You can't just get a great job opportunity at the drop of a hat, but you can always move home.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 03:29 AM
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Lol no, that's just you making excuses. There is a female incel sub, so clearly there are women who are also not able to find partners. But male incels don't want anything to do with female incels, for whatever reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 03:27 AM
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She doesn't have to have autism, she just has to have equivalent SMV to an autistic male, which could be something like an obese female.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 03:21 AM
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Have you looked at the incel sub? They talk about how they want attractive VIRGINS. It's not good enough that girls are attractive, but they also have to be virgins. Which makes no sense, because if anyone is going to have been in a relationship, it's attractive women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 03:19 AM
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Do men feel sorry for women who can't get Chad to commit????
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 03:09 AM
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Sure they do. They're are just not very attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 02:46 AM
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No. I think everyone can do things to improve their lot in life. Low SMV men are not incapable of self-improvement, they just choose not to. Also most incels simultaneously complain about not being able to get attractive women, while rejecting women they deem unattractive. It's pretty hypocritical. Low SMV men are not out of options, they can 1) work on self improvement or 2) settle for a woman who is in their league.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 02:46 AM
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Many people have careers that don't let them stay in the city they grew up in. Or their SO has a career that takes them to another city. Or they would severely limit their earning potential.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 02:28 AM
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I would hope that my adult children would have their own successful lives. So while they may visit occasionally, it would not be the same as having a husband. Especially in our current society where people frequently have to move to different states for college, jobs, etc. I do not live close to my parents or grandparents and it's not because I don't love them or want to see them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 12:56 AM
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There's no guarantee for stability I read that military members are expected to move at least 4 times throughout their career. That means wives will have to move along with any children they have. That sounds like hell to me. How do you make friends? As soon as you get to know your community, you have to pick up and leave again. I don't know if most military wives are aware of this and think it won't happen or what. I don't think I could every willingly sign on to that. Especially since you woul…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/17 10:35 PM
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When my boyfriend went to europe last summer, we had tons of phone sex and sending dirty pictures constantly. We also talked to each other whenever we could. It was like the honeymoon phase again, except we were apart. It was hard to be apart but it also made us really excited when he did finally return. I don't think I would want to do that for much longer than a month though. I definitely do agree that distance makes the heart grow fonder, but not indefinitely.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/17 10:30 PM
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I don't think it's inappropriate. I think 10 years is probably the upper limit on a functional age gap imo. Ideal age gap would probably be closer to 5 years. All that said, it's largely dependent on the individuals and their timeline for marriage and kids. For me personally, I think there are both advantages and disadvantages to this setup. Disadvantages: Women already live longer, so if your husband is 10+ years older, you'll likely spend two decades alone. I want to start having kids around 3…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/17 10:24 PM
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Yes I also wish he was a taller. You can't tell on screen though, so I just ignore that part lol. Actually a lot of actors are surprisingly short.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/17 07:36 PM
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Yeah, actually there is a ratio of ~3:1 men to women at 140+ IQ, but a person with a 140 IQ is still 1 in 100. Actually I think it's more like 1 in 200 for 140. Anyways it's not that easy to find. I guess the plus side is smart people tend to run in similar circles.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/17 07:26 PM
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Tom Hardy. So hot, also a really good actor.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/17 08:10 AM
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Do you really think any woman cares? I care. It's hard to find someone with an IQ in the top percentile who is also attractive. I personally don't like dating men who are dumber than I am, which I'd argue has something to do with dominance. It's hard to be submissive to a man who is clearly unintelligent. Other women may feel differently or they may not notice. Also I would like smart kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/17 07:56 AM
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The difference between a job and pursuing women is, one pays you, the other is an unending stream of bullshit Work can also be characterized as an unending stream of bullshit. But work is usually necessary to get by in life, whereas a relationship is not. And yet most men still pursue relationships, so it clearly can't be as bad as you make it out to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/17 05:46 AM
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yeah an expectation for all people, regardless of gender or social setting. nobody wants to be friends with a boring and uninteresting person. they don't want to work with someone who is super awkward. you act like this is something that only affects men and only affects their relationships with women, when that's not the case. a sociable person is always going to get the job over someone who is socially awkward.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 07:58 PM
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most men don't ever enjoy socializing or have any hobbies? do they have interests other than video games and their facebook feed? i am an introvert but i still need socialization. i still have hobbies and interests and can hold a conversation on a diverse number of topics. People, even introverts, need socialization and human interaction. It doesn't have to be buying bottle service at a club. But some type of socialization is pretty normal. How do you expect to meet people if you don't go out an…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 07:49 PM
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Platonically or otherwise, male or female, I don't hang out with people I find boring. And it's not like most men want to date women they find boring either. It's not exclusive to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 07:20 PM
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In nearly every situation, most people would prefer to be friends or coworkers or family with an interesting person over one who is boring and awkward. Is it objectification that people would prefer to socialize with fun and interesting people? Think about job interviews. I'd argue that job interviews require a lot of dancing monkey behavior, but it's stuff that has to be done to get a job. Is it objectification too? edit: I am an introvert too, so I get that it doesn't come naturally. But most …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 07:13 PM
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that assumes the default man is boring, not personable, and doesn't enjoy socializing. Which I'd argue is not the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 07:01 PM
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Incase you are lying / change your views on marriage? Honestly stuff like this makes me think everyone on this sub has trust issues or is dishonest in their relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 06:23 PM
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I said I would entertain the disucssion, but that it would signal a significant difference in values between me and my potential spouse. So I suppose if he could give compelling arugments for it, I would entertain the idea. One example would be if he is from a very well off family, has a trust fund, or a lot of money that he will be inheriting. I can see how parents would want their children to get a prenup in that situation. But for an average man making relatively average money? What are his c…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 06:19 PM
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still has to actually file paperwork to initiate the common law marriage, So what is the point then? And how is this better than just getting married? if you live together, introduce each other as husband and wife, and have to file paperwork...that just sounds like actually getting married.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 06:02 PM
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I could have a discussion on a prenup, though I doubt I'll ever need one as I do just fine on my own from a financial standpoint. But for me, marriage is for life. I don't believe in divorce. It's highly frowned upon by my family and the types of people I grew up with. The only cases where I think divorce is truly justified in abuse and maybe frequent, recurring infidelity. So to me, if a man wants a prenup, it means he doesn't feel the same way about marriage and thinks divorce is an acceptable…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 09:06 AM
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Do you want me to list every single last thing that I'd consider effort? I mean, I think most of it is pretty intuitive, but if you need it spelled out for you.... be nice, don't be shady, don't give any reason for your partner not to trust you, be attractive and stay attractive, be willing to compromise, don't be a whiny bitch, don't nitpick over stuff that doesn't matter, do nice things for your SO for no reason, be attractive, pick your battles, don't stop going on dates (especially if you li…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 08:54 AM
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what? I am in a relationship...with a man who has a good mix of alpha and beta traits. If you're referring to effort, well it helps to be attractive, trusting, and not crazy. There are women with high future time orientation who prioritize functional relationships that will lead to marriage over AF/BB. Sometimes I think this sub must be a truly small segment of the population.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 08:19 AM
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No that is not a chad with money. It's a man with both alpha and beta traits. A chad is a man who will not commit, displays only alpha traits, and is not suitable for a long term relationship. Most women do not want a chad for a husband. He will cheat, he will not care about her. For a LONG TERM relationship, a man need a mix of alpha and beta qualities, not just one or the other. And there are absolutely men like that. Do you really believe that there are only weak, boring betas and chads? Ther…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 07:06 AM
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I do this too actually. I also worry about someone identifying me.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 03:47 AM
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I'm a 23 year old white female. I work as an engineer. I'm very active. I live with my BF of 3.5 years. I partied a lot in high school and college and now I'm starting to calm down. I actually got in trouble with this when I was younger. I'm a libertarian with some conservative beliefs. I grew up in an upper middle class family. My parents had traditional gender roles when I was growing up, which I think was beneficial. Why I'm on PPD? I thought RP was interesting, mainly the blogs. I'm an ISTP …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 03:19 AM
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I feel women have more realistic standards when it comes to their league. Aren't most women in the US overweight or obese? Also more woman are overweight than men. I don't think the average man expects a woman with a porn star body and fake boobs, they'd probably be happy with one who is just not overweight. I've seen a lot of objectively attractive men date women who I don't think are particularly attractive. The men were dating down, not out of their league.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 03:08 AM
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but the reality is you could get much more just doing AF/BB strategy. Why is this a better outcome? Most likely a woman will not be attracted to a BB and she'll resent him in marriage. A better alternative would be to snag a higher value man at peak fertility and stay with him. This would not be a chad, but a man with a combination of alpha and beta traits, someone she is sexually attracted to but also a provider. I personally think that is the best path for women. They'll miss out on casual sex…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 03:01 AM
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There are some though who are, that's for damn sure. We don't all want to live in a third world hellhole.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/17 07:57 PM
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Traditional gender roles are generally right wing viewpoints. That's not exactly news.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/17 07:54 PM
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lol at least i'm not an asshole.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/17 01:52 AM
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unless you're trying to fuck one, why does it matter? and if you are trying to fuck a high school girl and you're over 20, then that's weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/17 06:27 AM
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I'm on the larger side at a D/DD cup (depending no what bra manufacturer I'm wearing). I'm also on the slimmer side. that's like me. i would not go out without a bra on lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/17 03:39 AM
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My guess would be many women are doing it subconsciously without even knowing it. i agree. "oh i had no idea that my med school boyfriend would make a decent living one day"....yea right.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 11:41 PM
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those are both UC. UC spans a much larger income/wealth segment than any of the brackets below it. i grew up in solidly UMC family, my parents weren't giving away hundreds of thousands in scholarships per year, though I was friends with the families who were paying for our private school's buildings.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 11:11 PM
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i agree. i think my family is pretty firmly UMC: went to private school my whole life, college paid for, grad school would be paid for if that was something i wanted to do, new cars, cotillion, etc... her description of UMC sounds like the richest kids at my $20k/year middle school, not average UMC by any means.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 10:53 PM
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Exeter Academy gives out fellowships endowed by Mr. Arthur's family this sounds UC, not just UMC. Sending your kid to Exeter is an UMC thing to do, giving out fellowships to Exeter is above and beyond that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 10:48 PM
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corruption. look at the history of the soviet union. Massive corruption had transformed the Soviet Union into a two tiered society.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 10:13 PM
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even if men "want it more", that doesn't mean women don't want it. just like one person can benefit from a transaction more than the other one, but they can still both benefit. it's not a zero sum game.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 08:40 PM
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maybe he's never had sex with a woman who actually enjoyed it. ¯_(ツ)_/¯
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 08:31 PM
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Every woman has a handful of male archetypes she sees as Chad. No. Chad is an TRP fantasy. Women know that there are lots of attractive, normal men who value commitment. the options aren't just chad and betabux.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 08:19 PM
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Socially awkward in a way that confuses observers etc. that's not what introvert means. intro/extro is dependent on how you recharge. being socially awkward and being an introvert/extrovert are independent.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 08:03 PM
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women in the upper classes have more to lose. divorce is heavily frowned upon.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 07:59 PM
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I don't know. I honestly never see that in real life. Most relationships (not even casual sex) are between a man who is as attractive if not more attractive than the woman. I obviously don't go prying in people's personal lives, but I'd assume it's pretty similar for casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 04:45 PM
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It's socialist pipe dreams.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 04:16 PM
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women want sex from someone because they like sex. Women like sex with higher status men because higher status men turn them on. Most women are never going to resort to someone of significantly lower value than them for sex. They aren't men. They don't have the testosterone levels of men either.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 04:14 PM
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I am pretty sure most women on this sub are introverts...hence why we're on this sub lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 03:54 PM
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That's odd. I would feel so guilty doing that lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 05:35 AM
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maybe it's because i'm an introvert, but that just seems like more trouble than it's worth. only useful favor i can think of is free drinks at a bar. and i don't need an orbiter for that. like what kind of gifts are you talking about? chinese takeout? a car? a tropical vacation?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 04:20 AM
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so you spend lots and lots of time arguing for communism when you have never even taken an econ course??! O.o you can't really understand the merits of capitalism and the downsides of communism, you just hear the fluffed up MSM version. people support capitalism because it is the most efficient way to brings good to people (something you'd learn if you'd actually taken an econ course or become familiar with the basic principles). There are economists that agree with communism. This is no excuse.…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 04:16 AM
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i never understood this. how are beta orbiters convenient? they seem annoying.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 04:06 AM
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we don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 04:05 AM
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have you never taken an econ course?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 04:05 AM
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yea $15 is like something similar in quality to panda express. I live in southern california. it's cheap for eating out, but it's still a lot more expensive than packing your lunch and bringing it to work. though even just cooking dinner at home can easily be $10 per person for something like steak or fish.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 03:51 AM
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do you think social media is healthy? sitting at home on the computer getting your fake social media points. sex robots just seem like an extension of that. more people will just stay at home, forgo human interaction in favor of social media and sexbots. it's literally like the WALL-e movie. i assume that it would have a negative affect on neurotransmitters in a similar way that social media and porn can affect neurotransmitters. anyways i wouldn't make them illegal, but i would't ever support t…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 12:53 AM
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i think robots are super weird and i wouldn't support them. And not just sex robots, but robots in general. i don't think it is healthy or natural to replace human interaction with robots. this also goes for social media, video games, porn, etc etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 12:43 AM
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i think you are missing the key point i have been making: if one person (regardless of gender) asks another person out on a date, the person doing the asking should pay. it is common etiquette. and it explains why women are shocked when you ask them out on a date and then don't pay. that doesn't mean an entire relationship has to be you paying for 100% of everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 12:40 AM
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a date is not a party no but it's common etiquette to pay for your date when you ask them out. if I take my BF out for dinner, I am gonna pay. or if I take a friend out for a celebration, I will pay for their drinks. how is this not obvious? these are basic manners. Women go on dates with no intention to fuck just for a free meal. I don't get this. Why would I waste my time to go on a date with a guy I am not even interested in??? women make money too. i'd make more money at work than if I spent…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 12:20 AM
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You've never had friends bring a dish or some booz? Yea sure. but if you're inviting people over, it's common etiquette to provide the food. hell, even in college, if my roommates threw a party, we'd buy the booze and snacks for 50+ people. that's just how it's done. I don't want to buy the bitch a meal or else I'd just hand her some money. then don't ask her out on a date??? or go somewhere cheap? If women consistently asked men out on dates and then paid for their meals, you'd have an argument…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/17 11:54 PM
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Okay so if you hosted a party at your house for friends, would you provide the food and drinks? Or would you be a cheapass and make each person bring their own food?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/17 11:35 PM
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Why are you ranting to me about this? I already agree that false rape accusations are unfair to men. I NEVER agreed with "yes means yes" consent laws, so stop telling me what I do and don't believe. You are arguing with me based on a flawed premise.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/17 11:33 PM
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socialising in parties, pubs and bars was just so normal for everyone people still do this.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/17 10:57 PM
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lol this is a joke right? if someone makes $50-60k/year, you think they can't afford a $10 date? that's a budgeting problem. I know people who spend $15 every single day for lunch for just themselves. a $10 date is a bargain.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/17 10:56 PM
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that's like maybeee two drinks at a dive bar. how is that a ripoff?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/17 10:53 PM
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You're just two people hanging out. that would be friends. usually dates are between people who are, at the very least, sexually attracted to one another.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/17 10:51 PM
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well did you invite them out? or did they invite you out?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/17 10:50 PM
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that women sacrificed excitement in sexual interaction for legal protections against situations that are extremely unlikely to happen. CERTAIN women, not all women. I am a woman and I think it's ridiculous, as do many others. If you're that concerned about it, don't fuck feminists. Lots of non crazy women out there who will not try to prosecute you for consensual sex just because you didn't ask. plus i'm not even sure HOW you prosecute such a case, it's basically he said, she said.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/17 09:20 PM
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and you want me to just pretend that isn't real? what else are you supposed to do? moping around about your race and height doesn't fix anything. either you can have a self-defeatist attitude and accept "inceldom" OR you can work on your attitude and personality and have a much better chance at getting girls. lots of people have to work for the things they want in life. if this is something you want, then work for it. will you be at a disadvantage? yes. will it be impossible? no.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/17 07:55 PM
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idk you sound self-defeatist. i personally think military is unattractive, too subservient. regardless, you seem to be looking for excuses in your appearance rather than focusing on your attitude. having an internship at an oil company doesn't make you personal and charismatic. i know some awkward AF engineers from work. yea i guess they're making decent money, but they aren't guys i'd want a relationship with. focus more on being personable and charismatic and not self-defeatist.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/17 07:35 PM
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okay so by your own definition: Any man who without consent has sex with a woman is a rapist. you are a rapist? just want to clarify...because I'm not really sure what you're trying to get at. i don't agree with your definition and i feel like it is an autistic interpretation of consent.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/17 07:32 PM
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i guess that by the time i am back at a guy's place in his bedroom or whatever and he is feeling me up, it's pretty obvious that i want to fuck. i don't understand all these starfish girls you are talking about. if you're being flirty all night and alluding to sex and you get a girl back to your place, what do you think she is expecting to happen???
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/17 07:30 PM
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what? i care about my pleasure, but a guy being confident and assertive is what turns me on during sex, thereby influencing my pleasure. also, seeing as i only have an n-count of 3, i haven't had many new sexual partners, but when I HAVE had sex with a new partner, I have never felt the need to tell them exactly what to do the very first time we have sex. usually the novelty of sex with a new person is enough to get me going. once i'm in a relationship, that changes and i obviously am more vocal…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/17 07:27 PM
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what differentiates an MGTOW who has relationships from a man who doesn't want to get married? why is there a need for the MGTOW label in the former case?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/17 07:22 PM
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Probably because women want different things out of a relationship than they do from casual sex. I am not personally into ONS, but if I were to have casual sex, the guy would have to be extremely attractive. Whereas in an LTR, once my minimum physical attractiveness threshold is met, I value other traits more highly. For casual sex, a guy just has to be hot and charming. For a relationship, he has to be compatible, have similar beliefs and life goals, be able to take care of her, etc. It's very …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/17 07:21 PM
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well you're short and non-white. do you live in america? are you in a racially diverse area? are you going after girls who are of the same race as yourself? i have always lived in upper class white areas so maybe my view is skewed. are you personable and charismatic and show motivation/drive in your personal and professional life? if not, then you have room to improve. but i'm guessing the whole non-white thing plays a big role. being a minority significantly reduces the percent of women who wil…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/17 07:15 PM
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I am not a feminist. I did not push for that bill. I do not agree with that bill. Simply having a vagina does not mean I agree with everything that other women do. I hate republicans and what they are doing to this country. I am not sure how this is relevant. Republicans and feminists are on two different sides of the political spectrum.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/17 07:10 PM
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i don't agree that you need to explicitly ask for consent. i have never been asked if i consent, that would be weird and a turn off. i believe that most people have more than an autistic level of body language interpretation and therefore know if someone is into it or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/17 07:08 PM
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i am talking about a man having the confidence to try to have sex with a woman. NOT the explicit ways to get a particular woman off, which is what you seem to be referring to. i honestly can't imagine that the very first time you have sex with a new partner, you get into the nitty gritty "do this, not that". but maybe that's just me. regardless, you can ravish a woman without needing to get her off. it's all about confidence and attitude. lots of women have enjoyable sex without ever finishing. …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/17 05:35 AM
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i disagree on the whole verbal consent thing. I think it's weird and awkward to be like "do you consent to sex right now". and i don't really believe that most people explicitly ask that, as most people aren't autistic and can pick up on body language and other cues. do you really ask each and every woman every single time you have sex "do you consent?". you can't understand that if a woman is letting you undress her and kiss her all over that she wants sex? i would feel weird if my BF asked for…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/17 05:29 AM
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but that's not sexually exciting. women want a man who is confident enough to "take her" without having to ask every step of the way. this is like RP 101.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/17 05:12 AM
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She shuts down during foreplay and does nothing more and says nothing. What then happens is, I ask. "What's the matter what's going on?" This always leads to one of two answers. "Why didn't you take me? Aren't you a man? I wanted to be taken." This is not a woman who is "broken sexually". a woman wants to be ravished, not meekly penetrated.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/17 04:20 AM
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"men going their own way" means not wanting anything to do with women. and MGTOWs frequently rant about how much they HATE women and female nature. it doesn't really make sense that they would want a relationship with women if that's how they feel. i don't think that MGTOW simply means "don't want to get married".
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/17 04:16 AM
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the same things that are valuable for a ONS, but also personality traits, communication skills, self-sufficiency, earning potential, etc. a man will still have to meet a woman's minimum physical requirements for a relationship, but after that most woman will value things like agreeableness, intelligence, and potential more than purely physical attributes.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/17 04:09 AM
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And some men like tall, slim girls with no much boobs and not the prettiest face. No this is wrong. Men still want the most attractive partner they can get, but they will have sex with women of varying degrees of attractiveness. A woman does not want SEX, she wants a relationship. A man does not want a relationship with a girl with an ugly face if he can avoid it. As a woman you don't really have to worry about your figure or your face because you're guaranteed to find a man that actually has a …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/17 02:42 AM
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Why are you arguing with me rather than responding to /u/HopefulAboutADHD's question? Since you feel soooo strongly about my response... I said men are no longer sole providers. Yea I get that the original post comments on how women have entered the workforce, that wasn't the point I was making. I don't really understand what the point of your comment is other than to be petty.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/17 02:35 AM
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You're a 5'9" girl, much taller than average, and not as ideal as a woman that's much shorter. Have you ever had problems dating because of it? Exactly. No, because I am attractive. And I date tall men. I don't try to date a man who is 5'4". Anyways lots of men like tall, slim girls with long leg, boobs, and pretty faces. That's basically what a model is.... If I was 6', I could see that being a challenge. But the average height of a white man in the US is 5'10" so it's not exactly hard to find …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/17 11:19 PM
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For long term partners, men care most about a woman's face. A woman's face is determined by genetics. Tall cheekbones, large eyes, full lips...those are genetics. No amount of working out will change those things. Also lots of woman have bad figures: no defined waist, large WHR even at a low weight. A girl can be very slim, but men are attracted to a defined waist with a WHR ~0.7. Lots of women physically can't achieve just based on their bone structure. So these women won't get top tier men, th…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/17 10:44 PM
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Nowhere in the original post does it say "men are no longer sole providers" and that this "significantly changes the dynamic of a marriage". Just because a reasonable person can make that assumption, doesn't mean ADHD will. Do you have anything to contribute other than snark?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/17 10:37 PM
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Lol clearly I offended you. Yes genetics play a huge role. Why is that surprising? Women are attractive or ugly largely based on genetics. It's not like it only affects men. I also don't find short men sexually attractive. Again, genetics. Or men with effeminate features (weak jaw/chin). I am a 5'9" white girl, so it makes sense that I'm going to be attracted to white men who are taller than I am. But there are lots of females who aren't white girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/17 10:27 PM
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Yes. Blonde hair, blue eyes white chick lol. What else would I be?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/17 06:20 AM
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Which things did you have in mind? Most men aren't sole providers anymore. Wives have to work, women aren't dependent on their husband. And this can significantly change the dynamic of a marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/17 03:29 AM
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I've never found Indian men sexually attractive even if they are "normal". No amount of lifting, nice clothes, and confidence has changed how I feel either. I am just not sexually attracted to Indian men at all as a white girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/17 03:11 AM
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it's also highly dependent on socioeconomic status. i guess it still just boggles my mind. like i know there are lots of obese people in this country, but the main place i see them is on the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/17 07:02 PM
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i disagree. but what exactly do you think a person's value depends on if it isn't at least partially based on looks? looks are a huge part of someone's overall value. it is naive to think otherwise. why are actresses and models paid highly, why are attractive people sought out?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/17 07:05 AM
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this is so true. i think it's an introvert/extrovert thing. as an introverted female, the idea of male orbiters sounds exhausting and pointless lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/17 06:38 AM
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correct. a woman would have to be very desperate to settle for an orbiter. and she would never love him.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/17 06:36 AM
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I don't really see the appeal of male orbiters. they're just more people whose "friendship" you have to maintain. like...why bother? especially if you don't even like them, it's fake. Not saying I disagree with you. I just don't understand WHY women do it. aren't there easier ways to get a guy's attention?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/17 06:29 AM
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why can't terpers learn to be succinct? It's like there's a secret TRP 101: make posts as long-winded as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/17 06:15 AM
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i think women have an easier time letting go of things. men seem to hold grudges much longer.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/17 06:13 AM
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beyond some friendly banter... it's pushing it. i don't know that it warrants a fight or breakup initially; really? how long has your longest relationship been? harmless flirting is what keeps long relationships alive and happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/17 06:03 AM
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It keeps the relationship alive! yeah i agree with this. happy older couples will totally admit to it too.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/17 06:01 AM
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yes this is exactly how I feel about it too. I flirt with strangers, it's fun and gives a little ego boost. i don't think that's harmful. it's when you start trying to flirt with a specific person regularly that it becomes a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/17 05:55 AM
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when it is no different than refusing to date a fat girl. a mentally unstable girl can still be hot. a fat girl can't be hot. i'm somewhat neurotic and my BF puts up with it. he'd rather date a hot girl who is slightly mentally unstable than an ugly one who is 100% stable. So you SAY this, but it never seems to play out in real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/17 05:44 AM
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that they're generalizing to the point of meaninglessness. if you're gonna argue that, you should probably just avoid this sub. like i do agree that there are exceptions, but the whole point of this sub is to make generalizations.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/17 05:40 AM
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maybe it's your attitude???
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/17 05:37 AM
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no.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/17 05:35 AM
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sounds like a damn boring life. would occasional binge drinking be considered risky? where do you draw the line? I'd rather pay my healthcare premiums than live a "safe" and boring life, personally. It would require unnecessary lifestyle policing, while monitoring weight is less of a challenge. like what is the actual point of being hot and fit if you're just gonna be safe/boring all the time?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/17 05:32 AM
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no because they can still be hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/17 05:25 AM
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a person's value is not negatively correlated to their BMI well their sexual value is. and a person's sexual value is part of their value. lots of women are able to coast simply on their SMV because it's that valuable. so it makes sense that a person's objective value would be lower if they are obese.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/17 05:24 AM
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40% of women are medically obese wut? I didn't believe this statistic so I actually looked it up. that's crazy. I don't go to the gym every single day, but I have no trouble keeping my BMI around 19.5. And most of the women I interact with are not obese, though many are overweight. I guess that's what makes the statistic so hard to believe. Like where are all these reallllly fat people I keep hearing about? There must be huge regions of the country made up of mainly obese people that I just don'…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/17 05:19 AM
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the male eyes were wayyy easier to read. all the women had a sultry look, seems odd because most women don't look anything like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/17 05:10 AM
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It's also easy to recognize the actor/actress based on their eyes and then use their eyes to imagine what type of face that specific actor/actress is making. Robert de Niro is one of them. I couldn't really tell by just eyes alone, but I knew what type of face Robert de Niro would make based on his eyes. Hard to explain lol. I think Winona ryder was one of the females in there also. Would be harder if they used all non-famous people.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/17 05:02 AM
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27 out of 36. Most of the females look like they're desirous. It doesn't seem like it covers the full range of emotions when most of the females are all making similar faces lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/17 04:58 AM
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No there are red flags that he thinks you're pump and dump material. It's not that hard to figure out.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/17 04:18 AM
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Yes my BF was the same way, he knew he wanted to date me and he wanted us to be BF/gf. there were also quite a number of girls that he just had sex with and didn't want anything more. Guys just seem to make up their mind very quickly and if he isn't into you from early on, it probably won't get better.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/17 04:16 AM
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I completely agree with this. When I hear girls complaining that they can't get their FWB to be their boyfriend, I'm just kinda like what did you expect??? I agree that it isn't hard to tell what men want, it's just that certain women disregard that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/17 04:10 AM
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Yes. My BF's have both expressed interest in dating me from the beginning. They weren't like that with all girls - some girls they just wanted to fuck. Anyways I wouldn't suggest that a female go into a FWB relationship and try to turn it into a relationship, because it probably won't work. I think that guys divide girls into groups of those that they want to fuck and date, those they just want to fuck, and everyone else. If a man wants to date you, he'll let you know. At least that has been my …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/17 04:07 AM
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30 minutes. I live in a large city so there are lots of people in a 30 minute radius.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/17 11:06 PM
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Men have anti women bias. Women have anti men bias. women actually have a stronger drive to support women as a whole (team woman). whereas men are less supportive of their gender. so, if anything, women would have more of an anti-man bias. still, i don't think most people have an anti gender bias. but those that do have an anti male/female bias are very vocal (i.e. the feminazis and the MRAs) making it seem more common.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/17 01:08 AM
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he's saying not all red pills are misogynists. this is the same argument as AWALT. if you disagree with AWALT, then why can would you argue that all terpers are misogynists?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/17 01:00 AM
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no. RP ideas and principles aren't anti-woman. it describes things like sexual strategy, female nature, hypergamy, etc. but RP theory in and of itself is not anti-woman, it literally describes human nature. human nature is amoral. however the TRP sub IS anti-woman. they use RP theory and try to rationalize why women are beneath them, evil, just trying to sperm jack and divorce rape, etc. I agree with RP ideas, I don't agree with the TRP sub though.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/17 12:51 AM
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Why? I suppose higher IQ people have more social issues and also more trouble relating to others on average. but if one had high social intelligence, why would it matter?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/17 11:54 PM
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I don't like stupid men. Being witty shows you're intelligent without having to tell me how intelligent you are. Plus witty people are more entertaining. Autists might be smart, but that doesn't mean I want to date one.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/17 11:49 PM
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Both sound depressing. My initial reaction was that most women don't have "super high standards", then I remembered the many conversations with my BF about objectively attractive guy friends dating unattractive girls. We couldn't understand why they would stoop so low. Idk why that never clicked before. My BF's old roommate was over 6', naturally lean but muscular, good looking face, making over 6 figures at 25. Yet he was dating an average looking girl with an unattractive face. He even let her…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/17 11:31 PM
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Well more men get visas like the h1b, they also get more highly skilled worker visas, they also get more employer sponsored green cards, and most illegal immigrants are men. I wasn't talking about marriage, but this skews the dating pool for these minorities if they want marriage. So if they actually go after women of the same race, they will be more limited. But many of these men don't want to date within their race. TRP hears complaints of ethnic men never getting white women. But to answer yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/17 05:09 PM
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Sure if you want to live in a 3rd world hellhole. But guess what? Lots of women who are forced into marriage don't even like the man. And why would you want to be with someone who doesn't even like you? Just get a prostitute if you're really that desperate.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/17 04:56 PM
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i am not calling you out specifically. all terpers seem to do this. they think they are owed sex, no matter how average they are. economic socialism, your redistributive welfare systems anymore which massively favour women at the expense of men. nowhere did i ever argue for economic socialism. i think socialism is stupid and only benefits the lazy. the reason we have a welfare state is because it is possible to regulate economics and redistribute money. you can't regulate the sexual marketplace.…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/17 05:48 AM
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trouble achieving any kind of consistency (depending on how low you are willing to sink) and serious trouble finding girls that meet even your minimum threshold for attractiveness god this sounds so whiny. you are complaining that you can't routinely get different hot girls who want to have casual sex with you? why is this a surprise? most men will NEVER have regular casual sex with new hot girls, they just won't. and you can TRY to get casual sex from new hot girls on a regular basis. but you a…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/17 05:03 AM
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no, barbie types will make sure their diet is perfect. that they're getting the ideal carb/fat/protein ratio to stay thin and toned, they'll make sure they're getting all the supplements they need to keep their skin clear and beautiful. because when your TDEE is <2000, you have to be very careful with what you eat to stay thin, while still getting all the proper nutrients your body needs.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/17 01:57 AM
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meal prep? oh like cooking? because barbies have to cook too.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/17 01:55 AM
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I don't think it's a new phenomenon. Women are attracted to men who are taller than themselves. If anything, it is probably in part due to immigrants and multiculturalism causing changes in average height. Asians and latinos are shorter on average than white people. The average height of Americans is actually decreasing! So people are getting shorter, but the standard deviation of height is increasing due to diversity. A more homogenous society would have people who are all closer in height and …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/17 01:52 AM
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no they just don't care enough to get good clothes or a nice haircut. my boyfriend would MUCH rather spend $500 on car parts than $500 on nice clothes. and when he needs a haircut, he goes to great clips to get it done as cheaply as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/17 01:42 AM
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tattoos are gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/17 01:35 AM
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I honestly can't imagine what living in the south would be like. After living in Boulder, and now southern cali, my idea of fat people is probably very different than Mississippi fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/17 01:30 AM
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women don't owe men casual sex. women want commitment, they don't benefit from casual sex. so of course most men won't get laid after going to a bar/club, but a lot of those men can still get sex in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/17 01:23 AM
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How should I know? I like it. Not all the time, sometimes it hurts. But I can't exactly speak for all women. Though if I had to give a number, maybe 20%.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/17 09:03 PM
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Well I am a female. Regardless, I don't really get turned on by the male physique alone in porn, I get turned on by the act itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/17 07:47 PM
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Wut? No. Straight men are not turned on by men. Having anal sex with a female does not turn the her into a man. It doesn't make her hips and boobs disappear, or make her voice deepen, or make her act masculine. Anyways people like anal sex because it feels naughty, it's something different from than routine PIV, it's nice to change things up when you're in a relationship, and it feels good. Your personal "survey" proves nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/17 06:56 PM
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I was with my ex when I initially met my boyfriend, so I met him about 6 months before dating him. BUT once we decided to go for it, sex was almost immediate. There was a 3 hour make out session that was almost sex. Then 3 days later (constrained by trying to keep our relationship on the down low) we had sex for the first time after a university basketball game. Neither of us wanted to wait, the chemistry was there. We had a lot of sex after that and gave up on trying to keep our relationship se…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/17 06:08 PM
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lol
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/17 03:27 AM
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then explain it to me? i don't want to settle for something I don't like if I can change it. And I can afford it. I don't think I'm ugly, I think I'm quite attractive. But I'd also like to never worry about the bump on my nose again. Did you get braces? or lasik? or contacts? or teeth whitening? Sheer will and determination alone will not fix your vision or the gap in your teeth.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/17 02:34 AM
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maybe not a prostitute, but I'd assume most men have gone to a strip club.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/17 02:17 AM
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I have always been curious if people's SO knows about TRP/TBP and PPD and what they think of it. i think it's an interesting question. My bf thinks it's weird lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/17 01:10 AM
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Yeah I think it's also a form of attention seeking. "oh this shitty thing happened to me in life, i'm gonna get a tattoo to remember it ". and now I have a reason to tell everyone about said shitty event. like everyone goes through shitty stuff, having "strength" tattooed on your arm doesn't make you any stronger.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/17 01:06 AM
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What? Did you read any of what I wrote? A nose can only be improved through surgery, unlike weight gain or lack of muscle definition. And as someone who had lost 35 lbs at 14 and also put on a lot of muscle when I was too skinny in college, I am always looking to improve myself. It's just that I can't fix the bump on my nose by myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/17 12:48 AM
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I want a nose job and it has nothing to do with self esteem. I actually think I look good, but I really hate the little bump on my nose. I think if I got it removed, I'd be even more attractive. I just want to remove a negative trait. I've done this in the past: when my butt was small, I worked out to make it bigger. When I was chubby, I lost weight. People do those things all the time and it's never considered a self-esteem issue. It's a double standard. Isn't self improvement a good thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/17 11:24 PM
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Red pill, female, straight. What I would sacrifice? My job, money, material possessions. I wouldn't sacrifice my life, or my life goals, or anything that would have a significant impact on my health. What good is having a partner if you can't enjoy life with them?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/17 10:45 PM
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I guess I just disagree. if something is THAT important to me, I don't need a daily reminder of it stamped on my ass. Because if it's truly that important, why wouldn't I remember it anyways?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/17 08:42 PM
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I suppose. But this one sounds exceptionally so.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/17 08:36 PM
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This question reads like an autist trying to figure out how to build sexual tension. Oh course it's fun. It's built from flirting, subtle sexual references, touching. Idk I never analyze these situations to such a degree.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/17 06:01 PM
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why not buy a piece of art? hang it on the wall? make a t-shirt out of your artistic expression? or a necklace? why would you permanently get something etched on your body forever?also they look dirty! I don't even have anything against the alternative look. i got quite a few piercings throughout my time as a teenager. had my bellybutton pierced when i was on ecstasy lol - my parents were furious. But at least those were removable!! there is nothing special about tattoos other than the fact that…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/17 05:43 PM
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Lol while I don't believe in classifying men as alpha or beta, because let's be real, lots of men have both alpha and beta traits, my dad fits most of the alpha traits that TRP likes to list off: risk-taker, stoic, overly confident, doesn't care what people thinks. He even cheated multiple times and is still with my mom, in a happy marriage no less The only way alphas make real money This is completely arbitrary and made up by you. Wtf is a "real alpha"? Can you define that for me? There are alp…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/17 10:01 AM
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Why is this a binary thing? Men can be both successful/not trashy and dominant. It isn't one or the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/17 08:00 AM
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Yeah like I already said, you can have dominant traits and not be trashy. I don't think making money is trashy. Taking business risks is certainly dominant, but it isn't trashy. Being confident isn't trashy, it's just confident. No office job to get fat at. ever heard of being self-employed? starting a business? that's how people make real money. as an example, my dad is a real estate developer: dominant, overly confident, stoic, risk-taking. But he isn't trashy. why some low class tattooed mcdo…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/17 07:55 AM
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i think tattoos are trashy for all possible interactions. Contrary to what TRP might think, when I see a tattooed guy, I don't think "ooooh look at that bad boy!!!". People who get tattoos are just following an ugly trend. They lack the confidence to go without a tattoo and they lack to the foresight to see that their tattoo won't look so great in 20 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/17 07:49 AM
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why would anyone WANT to be trashy? It is perfectly possible to show dominant traits without being trashy. what a stupid argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/17 07:42 AM
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I used to be a varsity track and cross country runner. Without supplemental weight training, it can absolutely make you skinny fat. It's more efficient to just lift weights.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/17 07:07 AM
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tattoos are trashy. how are they a sign of confidence? I've never seen a confident UMC/UC man with tattoos.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/17 07:06 AM
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And he has all those awful tattoos.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/17 05:38 AM
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Wut? If a woman doesn't want to raise a child, she can abort. If a man doesn't want to raise a child (provided he isn't married to the woman), he should have the same option. If a man elects for a financial abortion, any sane woman would then abort and not subject her future child to a sub-par life. Of course both situations could be avoided if women would stop having children out-of-wedlock like low class proles. I don't support taxpayers dollars going to these types of women, but then that's n…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/17 05:31 AM
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I'm just saying, as a woman, the long-distance runner look is not attractive. I did varsity cross country and track and those guys were the opposite of what I'd consider sexually attractive. If you don't really care enough, then that's fine. But don't complain that you've "tried everything" if you haven't.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/17 04:56 AM
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No. I believe men should be able to elect for a "financial abortion". I don't think women should be allowed to force men into fatherhood or to fund a child they don't want.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/17 04:36 AM
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lol okay. because attractive people can't be introverts? i've showed people on ppd IRC what i look like, i'm not lying. i have literally no reason to lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/17 04:32 AM
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coached marathon running long distance running makes you skinny-fat. it's not the kind of look that women like in men. women like some muscle. Do you lift weights?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/17 04:28 AM
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do not posses the drive to make that course work. It's actually been proven that asian men have less testosterone than white men on average, so it makes sense that they would be meeker and have less drive. Also explains why they are less attractive to women overall.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/17 12:24 AM
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he is leaving out an extremely important detail other than being short and indian?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/17 11:57 PM
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the rave scene would be a perfect place to showcase some lifts
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/17 11:44 PM
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Yup I totally agree on the abs thing. I prefer big chest/arms to abs any day.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/17 11:34 PM
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The whole "the hotter the girl, the bitchier" stereotype exists for a reason. It exists to make unattractive men and women feel better about themselves. "Oh the attractive girl didn't want to date me? Well she's a bitch!" Unattractive women don't mind the stereotype either because it benefits them. From what I've seen in real life, unattractive women are bitchier than attractive ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/17 11:25 PM
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She's 140 pounds 5'4" and 140 lbs is fat. Not pleasantly fat, but just fat. And why is the notion that women can be attractive OR kind so prevalent? If anything, most unattractive women are bigger bitches than the attractive women I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/17 11:22 PM
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Yeah this is what I was thinking as well. Lots of men don't need even RP to get women who meet the minimum criteria. Some people will have to work harder than others to get what they want in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/17 11:08 PM
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SO little effort into developing themselves and I'm just supposed to be ok with that putting all this work into me RP is about getting casual sex. So those men want someone who is 1) somewhat attractive and 2) not too crazy. The rest doesn't matter. If you want a relationship, then personality traits and hobbies start to matter a lot more. But why would an attractive woman with a good personality and interesting hobbies settle for casual sex? She wouldn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/17 10:55 PM
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Is this a rhetorical question? It's not like attractive people don't know they're attractive. It comes up in conversation. People comment on how you're attractive. You get hit on a lot, attractive men want to date you. If you want to talk about objective qualities, I've got: high cheekbones, big eyes, long lashes, full lips, a balanced nose and jaw profile, 0.7 WHR, long legs, sizeable boobs, a perky butt, slender body. I suppose I could have all those things and still be unattractive, but gener…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/17 10:44 PM
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I don't need any surgeries, they would just be "extra". Like I have big boobs for my frame, but they could be even bigger!! So I guess I'm a perfectionist when it comes to looks lol. I always want to be the prettiest girl in a room.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/17 02:55 AM
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We agree that women vote are usually left-leaning and men are right-leaning modern day liberalism is pretty authoritarian and yet women seem to love it (myself not included). there are so many types of right-leaning and left-leaning political ideologies, yet your question is focusing on a specific one. it doesn't make for a good argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/17 02:45 AM
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No it's actually pretty easy. Look up carecredit. edit: not that I suggest anyone finance plastic surgery. that would be stupid. I don't suggest financing anything that doesn't have collateral.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/17 02:39 AM
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I don't think it's naturally good looking people who shame plastic surgery. Lots of good looking women get plastic surgery after having kids to maintain their figure.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/17 02:38 AM
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probably ugly people who can't afford surgery.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/17 02:36 AM
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But life is so much easier when you're attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/17 02:32 AM
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If I was ugly, I would definitely get plastic surgery.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/17 02:30 AM
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men who specifically like ATM are a subset of men who like sexually degrading women. not all men like degrading women. there are lots of men who don't even like anal (!!) Sexual preferences are diverse. People are into all sorts of stuff that I would consider weird/gross (pegging, scat). I'm not exactly sure how some people on reddit are predicting that "ass to mouth is the new anal".
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/17 02:29 AM
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yeah seriously. my bf thinks it's weird. he has never wanted ass to mouth. mouth to ass is just fine lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/17 02:21 AM
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Ass to mouth is the new anal. No it's not. Where are you getting this idea from?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/17 02:18 AM
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It's almost like procreation is detrimental to one's personal success. Right that's why married men are more successful than single ones? Being childless doesn't make you any more successful, unless you are strictly talking about career women. But lots of people care about things other than just their career. Your career isn't going to care about you when you're old.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/17 08:27 PM
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What? I never said it was good advice. BP will work for men who are already naturally confident and charismatic (basically men who don't need advice).
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/17 03:48 AM
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Gorillas with 4.5" penis and 4" flats???
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/17 02:14 AM
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Yeah true. That is the only situation where it makes sense. Still a shitty situation I'd imagine.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/17 02:13 AM
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be a second wife (in polygamous societies) and these women are nuts.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/17 01:44 AM
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Why do you keep saying this? Maybe SOME women aren't monogamous, but lots of them are.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/17 01:42 AM
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No. I agree with /u/lewiscross for once. When I read "be yourself", I think: be happy with your overweight body and expect people to be just as happy with it. Be the best version of yourself would be equivalent to going to the gym and not eating oreos by the dozen.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/17 01:30 AM
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Lots of people are naturally confident and/or charismatic.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/17 01:24 AM
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Yeah if you're naturally successful and confident, blue pill is just fine. My dad is like that: a risk taker, stoic, confident. He's not acting, that's just who he is. "looks aren't important" This makes no sense. Sexual attraction is the basis for romantic relationships. Why would looks not matter?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/17 01:09 AM
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Yeah and if it's shitty they probably won't do it. Last time I checked, growing up in a well-adjusted, two parent household wasn't a shitty thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/17 12:24 AM
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Definitely do that. Blogs are way better than the TRP sub imo. My favorites were heartiste (old posts, not recent ones) and red pill room. Red pill room actually has good info for females also, most relevant would be the posts on girl game and the girlfriend experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/17 12:20 AM
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Yeah I feel this way too. I'd rather be in a relationship that I feel secure in than with a man who could easily replace me.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/17 10:52 PM
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Not what I said. Why do you imply that women are unable to think critically? The household I grew up in had obvious advantages over the average American household...also clear male and female role models. If TRP can tell you anything, it's that good role models aren't something to take lightly. Anyways I personally have questioned whether marriage and financial dependence on a spouse is a good thing and came to the conclusion that the benefits of marriage outweigh potential drawbacks. Some women…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/17 10:38 PM
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That wasn't the point she was making. She's saying it makes no sense for women to give away their eggs for free (without the protections of marriage). Not all women want to have children, but she's talking about the ones who presumably will, which is most women. Last time I checked, this sub is about generalizations, not about you personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/17 08:42 PM
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WHY would a women with options have children out of wedlock? It makes no sense. A baby is, at the very least, an 18 year comitment. Plus once you have children, you will forever be damaged goods. I get that men are afraid of divorce rape, but the consequences of having a child out of wedlock are no joke. Men hate single mothers and they screen out women with children. A man who hesitates to marry a woman because "divorce rape" is not someone I would want to fuck around with, because the risks ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/17 08:34 PM
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Also women who have high SMV and RMV and therefore have options. I.e. They don't have to settle for some self-proclaimed alpha and have his babies out of wedlock, they can find someone else. It's not that hard to screen for men who don't seriously want marriage, if marriage is a life goal.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/17 08:26 PM
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Physically attractive with qualities that are desirable in a long term partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/17 08:22 PM
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High quality women were likely raised in a stable household with two married parents, which is why she has values that are desirable in a female partner. These females will also aspire to get married and have children, because that is what they grew up with and that is what they consider normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/17 08:19 PM
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Sounds like my mom lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/17 08:18 PM
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Lol I totally posted on this a while back. My dad would laugh at any man who contemplated having children with me out of wedlock. It's just so ridiculous to think that women with options would do that. And despite what TRP thinks, most women still care what their parents think.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/17 08:16 PM
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Yeah which is just laughable. If those woman exist, they are not high quality, they're just marginally better than the single mothers they're used to. I think most terpers must be lower class if they truly believe this. I couldn't imagine any of the UMC/UC girls that I went to high school with purposely having children out of wedlock.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/17 08:12 PM
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Yup this is my opinion too.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/17 08:09 PM
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My mom basically emphasized looking attractive and staying fit, being polite to people, and having sports or hobbies so that you're not a boring person. She didn't emphasize these things to necessarily make me better with men, but rather to be successful and happy in life. I didn't need a mentor on how to get guys, because I never had any trouble with that. But I like to think that her general life advice helped with that...and also her genetics lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/17 05:53 PM
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Lol I'm not the slightest bit ignorant on politics. my reply was meant to be a bit tongue-in-cheek. Get over yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/17 05:28 PM
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This is exactly how I feel as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/17 05:31 AM
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it's not too big, bigger is almost always better. There's definitely an optimal size. And it's probably around 6-7". After that it just starts to hurt. Most men don't need a penis sleeve.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/17 05:21 AM
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Former Navy SEAL Why is this supposed to be impressive? I would never date a military person. They don't question authority at all, it's weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/17 05:08 AM
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I'd prefer it to a 5'4" guy wearing stilts.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/17 10:46 PM
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Not liberal. I want a man who will provide for my family, not some third world country.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/17 08:21 PM
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People forgive bullshit all the time if attraction is there of if the person provides a value to their life. Like cheating. Crazy how many people say "I'd never tolerate cheating" only to stay with someone who cheated. Which is fine. You can't really judge what you'd do in that kind of situation if you've never been in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/17 08:20 PM
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I will never understand why people are in to pegging.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/17 07:59 PM
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How is a 7 average? The scale goes from 1-10. Not 3-10.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/17 07:41 PM
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It is an aphrodisiac. I'm pretty sure I always list ambition/motivation on "5 traits I'd need in a guy". But I'd also need someone who is attractive to me. It isn't one or the other. Just like I'm sure men want a girl who isn't ugly and is also nice. There is no one trait that will make you automatically successful in the SMP.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/17 07:33 PM
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I want a girl whos my equal but am frustrated they seem to only care about physical features. Hot girls care about multiple things. Like /u/Love8Death said there is a physical baseline. For me personally, it's: be taller than I am, don't be fat, don't be super skinny. I suppose I also wouldn't date someone with overly feminine facial features like a weak jaw. After that personality and achievements ARE most important. Women still weigh personality and achievements much more than men do. increasi…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/17 07:13 PM
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No. I'd only date men who are at least as tall as I am.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/17 12:04 AM
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So rather than assume the most obvious, you say he can possibly have kids? You're giving him too much credit. Men who want to have kids don't MARRY women who have already gone through menopause.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/17 12:00 AM
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How exactly would he reproduce? His wife is 64.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/17 11:47 PM
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You're the one having trouble making sense of it. That seems to be your problem, not mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/17 07:58 PM
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LOL if this comment isn't the epitome of hamstering, I don't know what is.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/17 07:51 PM
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Right. That's why I stayed with him for over 1.5 years while in college. If I had truly just wanted better men, I could have jumped ship the minute I found one. But I didn't. I am not sure why you are trying to convince people of something that isn't true and doesn't even affect you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/17 07:42 PM
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Because I wanted things to work out. Because I thought we could fix things. Because I was scared of being alone. Being he said he wanted to fix things also. Because there were good times, not just bad ones. At a certain point, the bad times outweigh the good ones. Things devolve slowly over time, it isn't like you just wake up one day and everything has suddenly gone to shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/17 07:31 PM
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I feel like they're being purposefully dense because they believe women aren't loyal and will jump at the FIRST chance to leave when things go south Yes this is a great explanation. My current boyfriend was not the first attractive guy to approach me and flirt with me. I just held onto the old relationship for dear life. I was very scared to let it go. Was it rational? Probably not, but then not every 20 year-old girl is perfectly rational when it comes to relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/17 07:01 PM
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An ignorant know-it-all.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/17 06:52 PM
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Clearly I had some agency as I am no longer with him. It's not easy to end a relationship. It's not like there were never any good times, there were. The bad times outweighed the good times in the end, though. I don't know why this is so hard for you to understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/17 06:47 PM
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I was with him for four years, the first two of which were good. It's like people don't understand that it's not easy to throw away a very long relationship. You try to work things out, you try to make it work. It's very emotional. It's not cut and dry, "see ya later". It's like these people have never been in actual long term relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/17 06:42 PM
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My question, what was being offered that you did this? I was an insecure 20 year-old. He was familiar and he knew everything about me. Was the dick that good? No it wasn't good at all, actually. Though I'm sure you'll dismiss this answer as "my hamstering". Were you so worried about being thought of as a bad person that you willfully put yourself into 'abuse'? Mmm nope. I don't know where you are gathering these ideas from (probably someone else you know WHO ISN'T ME). I never said I was abused.…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/17 06:26 PM
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Lol you guys are the ones with the hamsters.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/17 06:20 PM
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I am not suggesting moral relativity. I am suggesting that - in the case of certain political topics - we should eschew making laws that don't impact other people. Things like: abortion and criminalization of drugs. I don't think that everything needs a law. Many people will disagree on what is best for themselves. Welfare is bad for me, because I see no benefit from it. I have to pay into it and don't get anything in return. So on that premise, I would get rid of welfare. Many people think diff…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/17 06:15 PM
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full support of friends and family. Clearly you ignored the part where I said "I had no friends when I left that relationship". I was in college, away from family. In a new state, away from old friends. My boyfriend is not a chad. I think it's laughable that you are so full of yourself that you really think you can know everything about MY old relationship simply from reading a comment on reddit. Ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/17 06:06 PM
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No actually he wasn't great. He was a jerk to his parents who gave him everything he wanted and more, he had actual anger management issues, he had no work ethic. He even admitted how poorly he treated me after our relationship ended when he tried to get me back. I never asked him to admit anything, I wanted nothing to do with him anymore. Yet he told me how wrong he was. you signed on and didn't leave for 2 years... why? who knows, don't ask. A controlling relationship doesn't start out that wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/17 05:57 PM
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No, I put up with my ex-boyfriend being incredibly controlling for over two years. I didn't even meet my current partner until a few months before we broke up. You don't know anything about my old relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/17 05:38 PM
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I left my boyfriend for another guy. He had no idea it was coming and still didn't know even after we broke up. I went to university in Colorado and my ex decided to follow me there, though he couldn't get into the university I did - so we were about an hour apart). He was incredibly controlling and wouldn't let me have any friends. He'd break my stuff and scare me. We'd get in huge, bordering on violent fights. My current BF saw me in a physics class and said he thought I was really attractive …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/17 04:20 PM
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Yes, you get it. There is more to life than living in a sterile little box, not allowed to make your own choices for yourself. I have come by things pretty easily and so I can get bored. I think that's why drugs and alcohol appealed to me at an early age. I can also be a bit of a risk taker. But I also have an engineering degree, a full time job, pay lots of taxes, am responsible and mostly law-abiding. But hey, I get one life to live and I'm gonna live it to the fullest while not harming other …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/17 06:17 AM
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If more men are hooking up and delaying/avoiding LTRs and marriage, it's going to disproportionately affect low value women. If men have the option to continue with hook up culture, they'll only stop doing that for the right woman. Basically by taking all the high value men off the dating market because they're avoiding relationships in favor of casual sex, you shift the dating pool for women. The woman most likely to hook up with high value men are lower value women (this is basically hypergamy…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/17 04:59 AM
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Criminalizing drugs doesn't decrease addiction rates. See Portugal if you need any proof. making things illegal doesn't prevent people from using, but it can prevent them from getting help. I have experience with drug addiction so I don't have to imagine it. People can easily seek out drugs if they want them. Driving isn't necessary. It just increases people's quality of life. For some people, responsible use of alcohol or drugs increases their overall quality of life. The same can be said for a…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/17 12:24 AM
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We will routinely spend $50-$70 for casual dinner and drinks, more for something nicer. Usually once or twice a week. My BF and I will often treat each other, but sometimes we split the bill. I wouldn't like keeping tabs on something that is supposed to be enjoyable. Neither of us has had an issue with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/17 11:40 PM
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And this is where it becomes stupid to argue. I am a conservative and I just don't see how the war on drugs is justified. Why do YOU care what other people do with THEIR bodies? If it doesn't hurt you, why does it matter? It's not infringing on your rights if they consume alcohol or smoke a joint. Lots of people are dumb and they'll be dumb regardless of what they do. But if we can trust people to drive and potentially kill other people, why can't we trust them to do things that only affect them…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/17 11:21 PM
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You're right, all you NEED to have kids is a sperm and an egg. But to raise kids in a healthy and nurturing environment? You need an LTR, preferably one that signals long term comitment like marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/17 11:13 PM
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So we should get rid of driving too? Because that's potentially very dangerous, but we trust millions of people to get behind the wheel and drive themselves around. You honestly sound nuts if you truly believe that outlawing everything potentially dangerous is a solution.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/17 11:08 PM
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I don't believe in cultural relativism. But I also don't believe you should outlaw things just because they're potentially dangerous. It isn't one or the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/17 10:50 PM
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And who determines what is dumb? That's the problem with making rules. Some people think religion is dumb, others think drugs are dumb. It's better to let everyone decide for themselves than to have a small group of people deciding what is best, because it's likely not best for everyone. See: war on drugs.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/17 10:44 PM
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Why is there no point? What if you want marriage and kids? There are still many people who want those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/17 10:36 PM
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I don't think the 4s and 5s love it as much as you think they do. They're trying to turn their FWB into a LTR and most women stress when they aren't able to do this. I know way too many average girls who would go crazy for a guy that they hooked up with and then wouldn't commit.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/17 10:33 PM
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I don't think it's been beneficial to women. I have never been into casual sex and I don't see how it benefits women. Most women want relationships with a suitable mate, not lots of fuck buddies. Men are more likely to be happy with many causal sex partners, though it's been my experience that most men also want a relationship with the right girl. High value women will still be able to find relationships and can avoid hookup culture if they don't like causal sex. Low value women will have troubl…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/17 10:28 PM
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There is much more harmful information on the Internet than TRP. You can't block all information that you deem harmful. I'd argue that radical Islamic rhetoric that inspires terrorism is harmful, should it be removed from the Internet too? Where do you draw the line?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/17 10:11 PM
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Yeah, there is a difference between aggressive and rude. Some women are bitches and it isn't just because they speak up, it's because they're rude. A woman can be aggressive without being rude.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/17 08:01 PM
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What? Read the comments from all the other women who agree that most women will not act like 5 or 6. I don't know what games you're talking about. Chill out.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/17 04:21 AM
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Same here. 6 sounds like an ugly chick who is desperate for some male attention. I don't think I've tried to start flirting with a male, ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/17 04:17 AM
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I think it's because girls who act like 5/6 are overrepresented. Most women will not act like 6, regardless of how attracted they are to a guy. There is probably a tiny minority of women who will and then guys go on and on about how those women exist. I think most women stop at a 4. Or they're desperate. There is just no reason to go to 6 lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/17 04:14 AM
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I cringed as a I read 6. I don't think most women would do that with a guy they just met.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/17 04:07 AM
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When they tell you that you aren't attractive, that's probably a pretty bad sign. I couldn't imagine my boyfriend saying anything like that, actually he says the opposite on a frequent basis. If you are objectively attractive and your BF doesn't think so, get out of the relationship. It won't get better.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/17 12:45 AM
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Obesity, porn, hormonal birth control blunting women's libido.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/17 12:40 AM
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That's what standard deviation is.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/17 12:35 AM
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Yeah and a large majority of them are done by women in their 20s or early 30s. I don't think older women and grandmas in their 70s are getting this done. That knocks down your 1 in 500 number pretty quick. And the types of women who get these procedures done (Instagram "models" and the like) overwhelmingly congregate in places like SoCal and other plastic surgery hot spots You are being naive. Anyways there's clearly no convincing you on any argument, from myself or the other females in this thr…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/17 08:33 AM
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so you are trying to tell me that the girl in #9 has a 100% real butt? No photoshop or surgery? It isn't that she has a thin waist and small legs. I have that too. It's that in proportion to her butt (especially the projection), it doesn't look natural. I don't know why you're talking about lips.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/17 07:42 AM
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I take no personal issue with this topic. I'm white, my BF is white. He just told me he prefers the shape of my butt to the huge ones that you linked. Though I want a bigger butt anyways, just from the gym not a surgeon. I just think you're being naive. LOTS of women under 30 are getting plastic surgery. There are even newspaper articles written about the influx of 20-somethings getting plastic surgery. I am not in denial about it. Why are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/17 07:39 AM
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No. THOSE women look fake. I will readily admire a nice ass that also looks real. I admire fake ones too, but I'm not gonna pretend they're real. I am not jealous. Have you done much research on BBL? That is the look that most of those girls have. The extreme proportions like that (tiny waist and proportionally small quads/hams and then HUGE butt) are not natural. Try growing a butt and let me know what happens to your legs. I also see that you live in LA so lol that you "constantly see girls li…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/17 06:17 AM
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What proof do you have that any of those girls are natural? Lots of women get this surgery done and none are going to admit to it. Anyways those girls are not the girl in the initial picture, who definitely looks artificially enhanced. Here is some discussion on the topic from /r/fitness.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/17 06:01 AM
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shopped her ass is It looks like she had plastic surgery. Her tiny waist and huge ass looks just like a brazilian butt lift. Also her relatively small thighs compared to her butt. Girls with huge butts from working out have thighs to match.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/17 05:51 AM
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It looks like she had plastic surgery. Check out what is know as a Brazilian butt lift. Her butt doesn't look natural.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/17 05:51 AM
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He was actually pretty good looking when he was younger.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/17 09:09 PM
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No I'm an early 20s attractive woman who doesn't use Tinder. Edit: also why do early 20s attractive women need to use tinder? I don't understand that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/17 09:02 PM
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I am that demographic. I think I would know it quite well. But whatever keep making excuses...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/17 08:42 PM
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I didn't have a Facebook for 3 years. Didn't hamper my social network one bit. Also why would you want to associate with people who care that much about Facebook?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/17 08:25 PM
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I don't think many people actually think that way other than those on liberal blogs and news sites...and certain parts of Reddit. It's just that those people shove their opinions down your throat because they control the majority of mainstream media.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/17 08:12 PM
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Don't use social media. Voila problem solved.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/17 08:11 PM
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kind of gorilla How did she describe a gorilla? What she described sounds like my dad (though he went to school). And my family is UMC, civilized, always-use-the-proper-fork types. My parents both have law degrees and my dad runs a very respectable business. And we were huge Trump fans. The idea that most Trump supporters are hicks out in the boonies is false. I know lots of other civilized families like ours - conservatives who just don't announce their political views to the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/17 07:44 PM
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I think it's pretty prevalent in the humanities courses. I only had to take a couple luckily. I actually switched courses at the beginning of a semester when I found out the professor had a PhD in women's studies and wanted to talk about rape and consent on the first day of class. And that was for a class on biological research practices and ethics.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/17 07:33 PM
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If they want to be liked, they should do the exact opposite of become a liberal feminist. Ick. I could never date a liberal man and I'm a libertarian on many topics. The modern liberal mindset is just so unattractive. I also don't know of many liberal women who appreciate a liberal feminist man for anything other than furthering their agenda. My old roommate was a raging feminist and said "anyone who supports Trump is a hateful racist and she hates every single one of them". She proceed to hook …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/17 07:27 PM
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But why? I guess I just don't understand. I'd really like a $2M. It would make my life a less stressful. But is not having that money a "hardship"? No. I have everything I need and more.. Men might need sex, but they don't need sex with many novel partners a year. There is a difference between a realistic need and a ludicrous excuse for a hardship.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/17 07:03 AM
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Do you think men having an median N count of about 7 is a societal problem? No. Why would it be a societal problem? It wasn't until very recently that reliable birth control was available. Were most single men having lots of casual sex prior to the advent of birth control? I doubt it. And what is wrong with an n-count of 7? Say a male starts having sex at 17 and gets married at 28. That's 9 years of possible casual sex with different partners. It's likely that he would have a girlfriend or two d…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/17 03:06 AM
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They are simply not going to let themselves get suckered into any potential problems via marriage or kids. But then why call themselves MGTOW? Why not just say "I don't want marriage or kids". Plenty of non-MGTOW men don't want marriage or kids, but don't feel the need to label themselves with a group that largely hates women. It just makes no sense. You're acting like they have to be MGTOW to not get married or have kids, when that is so far from the truth. You are making up excuses.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/17 05:32 AM
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Yeah! my dad is the most emotionless man I have ever met...which is good for things like business and bad for things like bonding with your daughters lol. But he would burst in to stoic fits of rage (silent but angry) when he found out I was sleeping over at my boyfriend's at 20. So I know that even the most stoic men have emotions. Also I'm pretty sure you'd have to be missing a large chunk of your brain to have NO emotions lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/17 06:05 AM
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but I don't want to insult you. Lol okay. You don't understand something so you use ad hominems to make up for it. Are you a doctor? Didn't think so. Again you ignored the birth control question, so I'm going to assume that you are on birth control, which affects hormone levels by preventing ovulation. In which case, YOU wouldn't feel PMS symptoms to the same degree as someone using non-hormonal birth control (like paragard). secreting tumors, ovarian insufficiency, menopause, Oy vey. You clearl…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/17 05:48 AM
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I don't think you know what you are talking about. It's certainly not the sex hormones' primary function to influence mood That doesn't mean they can't/don't. Estrogens effect on mood is due to it's ability to increase serotonin, and beta-endorphins which are associated with positive mood states, as well as acetylcholine your memory neurotransmitter. Progesterone is known for a calming effect. Several studies have shown progesterone to have anxiolytic (anti-anxiety) effects by acting on gamma-am…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/17 04:38 AM
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I get grumpier before my periods. It is not a social construct. Look at female hormones through the menstrual cycle. Hormones have an effect on mood and emotions and the fluccuattions can be quite noticeable in some women. If you are on hormonal birth control, then you won't experience these cycles, which may be why you don't think women get grumpier simply because you don't experience it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/17 03:43 AM
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He is the person I am closest to in the world, and vice versa. Same here with me and my BF. We weren't really friends before we started dating, but now he knows everything about me. And I think it makes for a healthy relationship. This is also why I have trouble relating to a lot of TRP/MRP relationships. Particularly on MRP, the relationships sound so dysfunctional: keeping secrets, purposely trying to make your SO jealous, staying out late and avoiding spending time with one another. It is ver…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/17 12:31 AM
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Why? They aren't wrong. Mean annual wage for chemical engineers: $105,420 Lots of engineers get paid more than six figures...my starting salary was $70k and I'm not even in O&G. A good number of my classmates who did go into o&g are making six figures and we graduated last spring. That doesn't mean ALL engineers get paid six figures though. It really depends on your field, your location, and how good you are at your job.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/17 11:49 PM
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What? It's in their name, "Men Going Their Own Way". As in, wanting nothing to do with women. If they don't really dislike women, then why label yourself with a group that does hate women? Why not just say they don't want to get married and/or have kids? Plenty of men feel that way and don't label themselves as MGTOWs.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/17 09:17 PM
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Denver is not a low COL area, it's above average. SF is literally the highest COL place in the nation. It doesn't make sense to base it on the most expensive place.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/17 09:13 PM
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low end of SE's is like $100k LOL. Maybe in San Francisco. Not everyone lives in California. In Denver, many entry-level software engineers get paid $60-70k. I'm sure it's even less in the midwest.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/17 09:05 PM
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Yes it does. Why would you spend a whole year trying to appeal to people like that? I don't get it. I'd rather befriend people who don't have an immediate prejudice against me.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/17 08:28 PM
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but will never get married and actively remains childless so as to avoid alimony and/or child support payment No I would not. I very much want to have children in the future and would not EVER have children out of wedlock. So marriage and children are a priority for me. I also couldn't date a man who had so little faith in me. I don't believe in divorce and if I get married, I will do everything in my power to keep the relationship together. I think most MGTOWs have little emotional intelligence…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/17 07:45 PM
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All of my coworkers are of the opposite sex. I'm an engineer so there are maybe 2 other females in the office on any given day. Still I am not CLOSE FRIENDS with my male coworkers. We're friendly and cordial and discuss our weekend plans on Friday afternoons. We might all go out to lunch, but I am not texting them at home and staying late into the night with trying to spend more time with them. Which is why I said CLOSE friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/17 07:14 PM
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We don't need context. We just need you. You never answered my question. And men don't just need this ephemeral "you". My boyfriend likes traits about me that play out in real life. I am very attractive, but if I sat on the couch all day eating food and never doing anything with my life, he wouldn't want to date me. He's wants a responsible adult who does productive stuff with her life. Will my job turn him on when we're having sex? No. But we are talking about LOVE. Men love women because they …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/17 07:00 PM
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No. Both genders love the person for who they are as a person (this can include things they do, but also personality and psychological traits, psychical appearance, principles, etc). If my boyfriend became a lazy bum or an alcoholic, he wouldn't be the same person I started dating (not only would his actions have changed, but his personality as wel). Similarly, if a woman turned into a fat, lazy slob when she used to be motivated and fit, she would be a very different person. If someone changes …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/17 09:21 AM
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People don't have to gush out their emotions once a week to form a deep relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/17 08:58 AM
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Lol okay. Lots of non-effeminate men have long-lasting successful marriages that are more than just superficial.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/17 07:47 AM
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How is that relevant? Can't men and women both form deep relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/17 07:35 AM
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And you weren't able to form a deep relationship in six years? I think that says more about you, than society as a whole. It's overly pessimistic to say "deep relationships don't exist" just because you personally haven't experienced it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/17 07:17 AM
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If by redundant you mean, "can go find another guy quite quickly", then sure. But I don't have any guys in my social circle/work who I would ever hook up with. It would be much easier for me to go meet a stranger on a dating app (which would not be hard at all). If men are going to be concerned with women having someone "on the back burner", then they should just be concerned about all men everywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/17 06:56 AM
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Why? I don't get this. Have you never had an actual relationship? This seems so foreign to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/17 06:53 AM
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If a guy on the back-burner means some guy in their social circle that they would move to or sleep with if their current relationship goes bad I am sure it's 80% or higher Are your friends really so shitty that they would hook up with your girlfriend? If so, why would you be friends with them? I don't understand why anyone would want such awful friends. This seems out of touch with reality. I think that TRP is overly pessimistic about this and I think it's easily avoided if you watch out for cer…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/17 06:49 AM
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I don't think this is anywhere near as common as 50%, maybe 10-25%, if that. I also think it's pretty obvious which girls do this: the girls who are close with their ex-bf's or male coworkers (which btw there is no need for someone to be close friends with their ex or a coworker of the opposite sex, so that's easily avoided). I don't personally do this nor does my boyfriend. I also have trouble believing that that many people have close friends of the opposite sex (who are not also mutual friend…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/17 06:41 AM
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What does "the patriarchy" (god I cringe every time I say that) have to do with monogamy? I like monogamy. Lots of other people like monogamy. Just because it doesn't suit you personally, doesn't mean we need to replace it. And as a follow up, what would you even replace it with? I don't want to be a concubine, I don't think most other women do either.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/17 07:43 PM
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The problem with what? Studies have shown that monogamous societies are more productive than polygamous ones and monogamy has a whole host of other benefits. monogamy reduces crime rates, including rape, murder, assault, robbery and fraud, as well as decreasing personal abuses. By assuaging the competition for younger brides, normative monogamy decreases (i) the spousal age gap, (ii) fertility, and (iii) gender inequality. By shifting male efforts from seeking wives to paternal investment, norma…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/17 07:30 PM
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Monogamy is a part of civilized culture. Monogamy is ideal in raising children with good morals and continuing a good, moral group of people. So few people seem to realize this. There have been studies that show monogamous societies are more prouductive than polygamous ones and that monogamous societies have a whole host of other advantages as well. It's hard to form a cohesive society without a regular family structure.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/17 05:48 PM
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Yeah but this isn't TRP. And your posts don't seem in good faith. Are you really trying to have you mind changed or are you just using this as a means to convince us that there are merits to socialism?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/17 05:39 PM
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Yet another politically charged, agenda-driven post by /u/thatgreeklady. Isn't there a limit on this?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/17 08:00 AM
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I mean, I fail to see how men lose in this situation. If a woman has nothing to hide, then she shouldn't be worried about a paternity test. If she's worried and threatening to leave them, something is probably up. And are men actually responsible for a child who isn't biologically their's? I just don't see why a man would want to stay with a woman who 1) he isn't even sure is faithful and 2) objects so strongly to a paternity test.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/17 12:06 AM
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children shoul not be able to consent to physically change their bodies when they're in such a young state of mind. This. A child can't consent to a tattoo, but they can consent to a sex change? It's ridiculous. I was a tomboy when I was young (like 8-12 years-old). I'd wear shorts from the boys section at Target and played lots of sports. Nowadays SJWs would consider that a sign that I was not really a girl. But it was a phase and I quickly grew out of it after puberty. I couldn't imagine someo…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/17 11:58 PM
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Which is terrible for them. They should have to wait until they're 18. A child can't get a tattoo until they're 18, why should they be permenantly changing their entire body?? It's ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/17 11:53 PM
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I did this when I was a freshman in college I didn't have the best self esteem and thought I wasn't that attractive and was confused when guys kept trying to talk to me. There was one instance where a reallllly attractive guy kept trying to talk to me in a class we had together. I thought he was just being friendly. Then at a party, he told me how he kept trying to flirt with me and thought I was just not interested lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/17 11:41 PM
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Yea I do this. Eye contact and then looking away, stuff like that. Which I would really only do if the guy was quite attractive anyways
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/17 11:36 PM
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No. But then I never approach guys, they approach me.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/17 11:34 PM
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So? People need to stand up for themselves if they want to get anywhere in life. Getting a paternity test is perfectly valid. Dont give a damn what the SJWs think.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/17 11:27 PM
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You love his traits, his values Yes this is exactly what I was saying. I said you love what they are, you don't just love "them for being themselves". What they are includes traits and his values. Like my prior example, if my BF became an alcoholic (a change in traits and values), I would not date him. Similarly, if I became overweight (a change in traits and values), he would not date me. We love each other for what we are (attractive, funny, smart, hardworking, etc). So you do have an issue wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/17 07:36 PM
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What was I lying about exactly? Both men and women do not love the individual. I said: "I'm pretty sure that both men and women like their partners for who/what they are". (i.e. not simply liking them for being them). Then I gave an example that is relevant to my current relationship. Do you have an issue with reading comprehension? The rest of your post is not relevant relevant to me
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/17 11:12 AM
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I don't believe in soulmates. When I started dating my boyfriend, it was very passionate Wity deep emotional intimacy. I remember staying up until 5am with each other, skipping classes and calling sick into work, and not doing homework just so we could spend all of our time together. We went on trips and made big plans and it was really a great time. I don't think most couples are that lucky.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/17 05:53 AM
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I don't really care about how much money he spends on a date, especially if it's early on. In my current relationship, we'll treat each other to dinners that range from $25-$120 on a regular basis. I don't think that's a big deal. But I'd much rather go on a fun, cheap (or free) date than an expensive and boring date any day. I can buy my own $100 steak if I want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/17 05:49 AM
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It's not garbage? I specifically asked him if he would stay with me if I was fat. As a 23 year-old with no health problems, I have no reason to be fat. If I had just had a baby or something, it would be different. Edit: also I'm 5'9 and 130 lbs. I have a long ways to go before I'm clinically overweight. I'm not talking about 10 lbs.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/17 02:12 AM
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Def not a "stem people" thing. I am one of them and I would never consider talking to my hypothetical teenage daughter about sexual strategy (wtf????). During my years as a teenage girl, I never had any trouble getting sex or figuring it out on my own lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/17 02:09 AM
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Why? That just seems unnecessary. My mom told me not to be a slut and that was basically the extent of it. She knew I would have sex, but she didnt want to encourage it by discussing it with me. I first had sex at 17 and it was not hard to figure out.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/17 11:41 PM
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Why is this important for a girl to do? I personally think it's helpful for a few reasons: 1) It establishes gender roles early on. 2) as a woman, you know that this man is actually interested in dating you. If he's going out of his way to court you, he probably isn't doing it just because he thinks you're an easy lay. 3) I knew that the guy liked me and I didn't have to nag about our exclusivity or anything like that. Oh and 4) the "chase" adds excitement to a potential new relationship. Are yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/17 11:26 PM
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I had 0 problems getting boyfriends by just letting guys pursue me. I never actually tried to get a boyfriend, but I always seemed to have one lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/17 11:13 PM
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My mom gave me some general "advice" (more like slut/fat shaming). I love my mom, but she is pretty judgemental as most UMC mothers are. The major "advice" she gave me that helped me with dating: Don't be a slut, though not in such explicit terms. When I was 13 and going to hang out with my boyfriend(who was in high school) she said "boys only want one thing". Lol. Dont be fat. When I was getting chubby as a 14 year-old, she told me I was getting fat and needed to lose weight. I lost 30 lbs when…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/17 11:00 PM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/17 08:16 PM
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Not really. You can both be attractive lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/17 07:05 PM
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She does not love you for you, merely what you are. My boyfriend wouldn't stay with me if I became fat. Does that mean he doesn't love "me for me, just for what I am?". Because Im pretty sure everyone likes their partner for who/what they are. My boyfriend likes slim girls with boobs. If I changed significantly, then it would make sense that he wouldn't like me anymore. I would probably feel the same way if he turned into an unmotivated bum or an alcoholic. I don't think that's makes either of u…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/17 06:56 PM
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and they could be swept of their feet like I said. You are trying to justify it. No woman who is SERIOUS about her relationship gets "swept off her feet" from one night in a club. She either values her relationship or she doesn't. partying is girls night out and they go to a club until 2 am where they won't see anyone again You know I am not a sheltered child? I have experienced this many times before. Still doesn't change what I said anyways
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/17 05:44 PM
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It sounds like you're just trying to justify cheating? I have a high sex drive and I party, but 90% of the time, my boyfriend comes too. When my boyfriend is not there, I might be flirty, but I do NOT cheat. Its not that hard to talk to a hot guy and leave it at that. (And if you think that is too hard, then consider men - who have much higher sex drives than women - and can still manage not to fuck every hot woman in sight). I've had female friends who've cheated on their boyfriends. And the on…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/17 05:36 PM
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Having grown up with majorly female friends I haven't particularly noticed this peak in emotional duress once a month my friends have displayed Are you on hormonal birth control? 50-60% of women in the US are using hormonal birth control. Hormonal birth control prevents the natural hormonal fluctuations that would normally occur in women throughout the month. I am on non-hormonal birth control and can definitely feel the changes. I'm sure some women have more noticeable fluctuations than others,…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/17 05:06 PM
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Most women don't just "slip" into cheating. She's either open to cheating or she isn't (even if just subconsciously). And it's highly likely that she knew she was open to cheating BEFORE she showed up at the club.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/17 04:56 PM
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guys who don't want a woman with kids AKA men with options
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/17 05:09 AM
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Not primarily because of fear of not finding another man Still, the highest SMV men aren't going to raise another man's child. They'll have other options. Another man's child is pretty high on the list of dealbreakers.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/17 04:42 AM
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We'd go for months without having it. Why even bother with a relationship then??? It's not like you were married.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/17 03:35 AM
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What if you had his kids? I personally think that would change things significantly. It'd be much harder to find another guy when you have kid(s) and an ex-husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/17 03:25 AM
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TIL I'm highly neurotic.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/17 12:54 AM
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Med school is overrated. My sister could get in and my parents would even pay her med school tuition, but she still doesn't want to go. And my parents don't blame her. And premed lol. so many "premed" students never come close to fruition.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 09:31 PM
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I got my degree in chemical engineering and did a minor in CS and still found time to party most weekends. And I went to a highly ranked school for chemE. I couldn't go out on a random Monday night like my political science roommate, but I also didn't particularly care to party much more than twice a week.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 09:21 PM
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I don't understand this. If I am not good at something, why would I want to bust my ass and work 5x harder than everyone else just to do something I'm not good at? Like sprinting. I suck at sprinting. So I never bothered to try and be a sprinter. I could do long distance with ease and compete at a high level. I am a terrible artist, so I didn't choose to be an arts major (also money). But I don't understand why more people don't follow the path of least resistance (or at least comparatively less…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 09:19 PM
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I disagree. My boyfriend lived in a party house with 9 other guys one year. They'd have parties alllll the time. Only one of them got laid 2+ times per month. They were not bad at socializing. There was lots of alcohol and drugs. The following year he lived with another group which also partied frequently, they rarely got casual sex despite going to bars 3-5 nights per week. Also these are all MC-UMC, predominantly white guys. The average guy would have to be in a relationship (or at least datin…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/17 07:25 PM
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What? I disagree. I met a lot of guys in college through my boyfriend's friends. I constantly heard about the girls they were trying to hook up with. Even the objectively attractive guys could rarely hook up with a girl once a month, even with regular use of tinder. The more "average" ones would regularly go a many months...and that was with lots of persuasion (and generally alcohol). There was one guy who would hook up with new girls like multiple times a month, but he was a player, not average…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/17 07:15 PM
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The average man has to get into a relationship to get consistent sex. Outside of a relationship, he may be able to hook up with 1-2 girls per year on a casual basis. Most likely in a FWB situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/17 07:12 PM
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I save that for Halloween lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/17 11:51 PM
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Oh lol. I'm not seriously considering any surgery at the moment. It's just something I've always thought about. I just have a small bump on my nose, not a big deal. But I'd never skimp on a surgeon...you get what you pay for.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/17 07:24 PM
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So the consensus is that I should go for it. Just need to build up a couple weeks of PTO and $10k. I actually mentioned this last night to my BF. He said he really likes my face and doesn't want to "risk it getting messed up". So we'll see on that one. He's 100% okay with a boob job though because "it's pretty hard to fuck those up" lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/17 05:33 PM
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STEMlords don't need Instagram followers. Also I voted for Trump. 😜
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/17 07:14 AM
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Good for you. I'm an attractive 23 year-old. If I don't like the way my body looks, I go to the gym and work out. I don't get butt implants, I lift weights. I like my boobs. I like being attractive and I like the confidence I get from that. I don't care about you or "girls from San Diego state". I just don't. If I get to a point where I have kids (like 10+ years from now) and my boobs are not as they are currently, I will get a boob job. Because life is too damn short to be unhappy with the body…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/17 06:19 AM
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How is it not rational? People spend lots of money to keep themselves fit and in-shape and attractive. Is that not rational either?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/17 12:04 AM
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I think a nose job + chin reconstruction (frequently done as one procedure) could definitely take someone up two points. Even just a nose job in some cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/17 09:51 PM
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My choice is rational. If it makes me content and doesn't hurt anyone else, why does it matter?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/17 09:44 PM
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I just moved to California. Been living here for less than 3 months. It hasn't had a significant impact on what I deem acceptable for me personally. I had surgery before ever moving to California. I already have sizable breasts. I don't need two watermelons on my chest. If I had children and they shrunk, I'd want to replace what I'd lost. Nothing wrong with wanting to look good. I don't social media so I don't really care what instagram thinks. I don't personally like the overly-plastic Californ…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/17 09:31 PM
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?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/17 09:08 PM
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There are lots of sources. Google "men vs women stress response". But here are a few to get you started: 1, [2] (http://www.apa.org/news/press/releases/stress/2010/gender-stress.aspx), 3, 4
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/17 07:36 PM
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This is like TMI, but it was just super long. It was not normal. It would constantly hurt. I was a varsity runner in high school and it was always causing issues. When I was 20, a gynecologist finally commented on it. I always knew it was not normal, but then I finally felt validated. I also couldn't afford it on my own (surgery was almost $8k), so I told my mom and my parents paid for it. Somehow my dad has managed to completely block it from his memory lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/17 07:09 PM
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except maybe as snipers or fighter pilots, because you don't really need muscle mass for that Women also don't handle stress as well as men. It's another reason why women overwhelmingly choose less stressful jobs than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/17 07:06 PM
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Well yeah. I also have a pretty pricey skincare routine that I do daily. I love my sunscreen and serums. But if I have kids and don't like my boobs anymore, I'd have no issues with getting a boob job to feel better about my appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/17 06:57 PM
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labiaplasty. edit: I will say I think the labiaplasty craze is wayyyy overblown. So many girls who absolutely don't need it are getting it. I actually needed it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/17 06:52 PM
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Why? I have already had one procedure done which is technically "cosmetic surgery", but I had it done because I was physically uncomfortable and not because I didn't like the way it looked. Though it does look better now too.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/17 06:50 PM
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Cosmetic surgery? My boyfriend just doesn't think there is anything wrong with my nose. We're all more critical of ourselves, I suppose.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/17 06:48 PM
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But terpers make it seem like ALL women are dishonest, hypergamous cheaters, who will leave you once they can divorce rape you. They even have their term for it...AWALT. And I even agree with many RP principles, but I hate being categorized as a lying harpie simply because I am a female. That's why I don't read TRP anymore. Though I did I gain a lot of valuable information from it at one point in time.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/17 06:46 PM
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I just wish they would find a more constructive way of working out their issues than making women out to be all round amoral, dishonest and selfish people Criticizing women for wanting certain traits is easier than working on yourself. But women do this too. Women criticize "unrealistic beauty standards" rather than lose their extra weight. So both sexes do this to one another. But I agree with everything you said.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/17 06:42 PM
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I am 100% down with cosmetic surgery when I get older lol. Not like Real Housewives level surgery, but I think it can be a great thing for people who have a significant insecurity about part of their appearance. I want a nose job one day. My boyfriend thinks I'm crazy lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/17 06:38 PM
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drugs help, especially a legit phenibut source if you dont trust ssri Interesting to hear phenibut pop up on this sub. Do you take it every day?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/17 06:36 PM
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It's hard to sympathize with people who won't work on themselves (like incels) and instead choose to blame the world around them. When I was 14, I was chubby (5'8" and 150 lbs). I could tell that people thought I was chubby, so I lost weight. I didn't blame the system (AKA biology). I did what was in my power. I think a lot of terpers don't want to put in any work. I don't sympathize with them. I do sympathize with people who truly try to be the best they can and still fail. I also sympathize wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/17 06:32 PM
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That's good. How did your SO go from a 5 to a 7? Weight loss?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/17 06:25 PM
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I never understood why people like to have sex with the lights off. But I guess if your partner is ugly or significantly overweight, it makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/17 06:24 PM
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Do you worry that she'll leave you? Just curious, hope that's not too personal of a question.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/17 06:19 PM
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I think we're more prone to abide by what is considered polite or appropriate. Women care much more about proper etiquette. I get upset when my boyfriend lets his dog run around and get close to other people's children and he rarely sees the harm. I don't think that makes us nicer, just more rule-abiding.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/17 04:48 AM
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This can go hand in hand. Not every rough sex has to be a hatefuck. I agree. You articulated this better than I could.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/17 06:49 PM
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Yup I agree 100%. And until they actually have to deal with it, I don't think they'll really understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/17 03:13 AM
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Yeah but they were broken again and again and again. Right in front of dad's face. I broke my parents' rules. I got punished sometimes, though the embarrassment of them knowing was enough to keep me from doing it (or at least getting caught). I did drugs at my parents house...and had sex there.But never in their face, it was when they were out of town or gone for the night. Her behavior is not normal and is REALLY seeking attention from dad. Honestly she probably needs some type of counseling.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/17 03:07 AM
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surely a single father couldn't have been bad at raising children??? That's the thing RP likes to ignore. Men are horrible at dealing with teen/early-20s daughters coming to sexual maturity. My dad would get upset at stuff, but it was always my mom who would tell me not be do something slutty or how to deal with boys. My dad just could not have those conversations with me. And that's an important part of parenting a girl. Who else is going to tell a girl not to be a raging slut? Probably not her…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/17 03:02 AM
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Yup. During school breaks, when my boyfriend and I would be staying with our parents, my dad would NEVER let my boyfriend sleep over. No fucking way. I didn't even ask. Sometimes I would "fall asleep" at my bf's house and my dad was never okay with that. The dad should have put his foot down much sooner.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/17 02:58 AM
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Okay. I obviously won't speak for all women, but I just don't think that's true. My roommate just moved from NY/NJ area which is where she grew up. She's above average, but said it's impossible to get a guy there for the exact reason that there are just too many gorgeous women there. I don't think women are subconsciously moving to NY to get a hot alpha bucks, I think it's that many female interests like art, fashion, writing are prominent in NY. Compare that to California where there is a lot o…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/17 07:11 PM
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California has a disproportionate amount of single men compared to single women, which makes it breeding grounds for hypergamy. New York is the opposite, with way more single women than single men. Maybe there is hypergamy in the top tiers of women (models and actresses), but for the average New York woman? I doubt it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/17 07:00 PM
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Yeah but we were talking about "ugly men" and "ugly women". I'd hardly call a plain Jane (aka average) ugly. Also a woman doesn't have to be 400 lb landwhale to be ugly, some people just have very unfortunate faces.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/17 04:19 PM
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Yeah...and why don't all men move to New York where there's way more single women than men?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/17 04:13 PM
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I don't personally have that problem. Still, ugly women are not going to have that much luck at romance by practicing "girl game". The first things guys look for is looks, it's pretty hard to overcome that. I also guess it depends on how ugly were talking about here.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/17 04:09 PM
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Not for a relationship...which is what women want.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/17 05:02 AM
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Guilt and social conditioning is a part of what stops me from chatting with girls when I really want to Why do you care what people on the internet say? Normal people don't talk about "rape culture". And if I heard a man say that he didn't want to approach me because of "guilt and social conditioning" associated from his FB feed, I'd think he was a pansy. How old are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/17 07:22 AM
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If you look at my links, you'll see that it has only been shown in some surveys, in some areas of intelligence. It most certainly has not been "proven" for every IQ test and every area of intelligence. For IQ as a whole, men have a greater standard deviation see here. If you're going to focus on aspects of intelligence, men generally perform better in spatial intelligence and women perform better in verbal intelligence. Regardless of what specific areas of intelligence, men have a greater standa…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/17 10:36 PM
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Risk what? Being attractive doesn't make people boring or unfunny.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/17 10:03 PM
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On a wide scale, probably not. Have you ever had surgery? It is not pleasant. I can't imagine having facial plastic surgery. Nose breaking, jaw shaving? Those will never be easy. Regardless, you didn't answer the question. Would you pay for your kids to have plastic surgery because your partner was only attractive through plastic surgery?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/17 10:43 AM
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The mean IQ of males and females is the same, but the distributions are different. Male IQ has a larger standard deviation, creating more male geniuses and more male retards. This has been proven, it isn't theory. As more and more women take on intellectually demanding jobs and get educations, the average female IQ increases. That isn't how IQ works.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/17 10:35 AM
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To make themselves feel better about being unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/17 10:27 AM
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Well of course. But that's not what most people mean when they say attractiveness is highly controllable. Plastic surgery isn't exactly easy or cheap...and would you really want to pair off with someone who is only attractive because of plastic surgery? Would you then pay for your kids to have plastic surgery? I have nothing against plastic surgery. It's just not reasonable solution for a lot of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/17 10:24 AM
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Wtf does this even mean? Female hormones are not consistent throughout the month. They fluctuate quite dramatically. I notice it in my own energy, emotions, even appearance (why are my boobs a full size bigger one week out of the month???). If you are on hormonal birth control, then you may not feel these hormonal variations. But they certainly exist and they certainly have an impact on many women. period tracker apps are popular for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/17 08:52 AM
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attractiveness is controllable It's not that controllable. You'll never change your facial bone structure without plastic surgery. Assuming you're at a healthy weight, you'll never get bigger boobs or a more ideal WHR without plastic surgery either. An ugly girl with a bad chin, big nose, and no defined waist will never look that great even with all the makeup in the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/17 08:20 AM
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Newsflash: people can be pretty and funny. Or ugly and boring.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/17 08:15 AM
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Yes. I would want my kid to be as successful as possible. That includes being intelligent, personable, and also attractive. The whole "pretty is boring" idea that gets thrown around is overrated. Why would I want to make my kid's life harder for no reason?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/17 08:10 AM
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When speaking of clubs and/or bars, most americans assume you are talking about a 21+ scene. If they serve alcohol, and have music and djs, then how is that different then a club? House parties and frats serve alcohol, have music and djs also. That doesn't make them clubs. When I was going to concerts at 18 (with DJs and alcohol and dance floors and lights), I never said I was going clubbing. I said I was going to a concert. It seems like you would refer to that as clubbing though. Idk it could …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 01:31 AM
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Weird. Maybe it's where I went to college then. I was able to get alcohol and cigarettes in high school by knowing the right stores to frequent. We never tried to get into clubs though, because we knew what would happen if we did. Which was nice. I got to enjoy college house parties while they were still fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/17 10:58 AM
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Idk. The only place in my state that calls itself a nightclub but has 18+ nights is Beta nightclub in Denver. And they basically act as a concert venue on most nights. I went to lots of concert venues and danced my ass off way before 21. But I wouldn't consider a concert venue a club, even if alcohol happens to be available for the 21+ crowd.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/17 10:56 AM
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Someone with an unremarkable appearance is average (aka a 5). Someone overweight would be a 4. Someone overweight with an awful face would be a 3. Obese and ugly would be 2. Hideous/deformed would be 1. 6 could be someone with an okay body or an okay face. 7 would have a decent body and face. 8 would have great body and great face, maybe a couple imperfections. 9 would be basically flawless. The thing is a girl within a healthy bmi range and a completely plain, unremarkable appearance is still g…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/17 10:45 AM
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Those are called concerts.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/17 09:35 AM
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How old are you? I think this must be an older person thing. I'm 23 and nobody went to bars in my college town until they were 21...because they'd never be let in. We partied, we did drugs, we went to concerts and music festivals and whatever else we could do. But bars/clubs were not a thing we could do until we turned 21. That's what house parties were for.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/17 09:33 AM
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Actually the age for many clubs here is 18+. At least in college towns. What? Most party school towns will have super strict ID laws. I went to a top 5 party school...fake IDs were not a thing because the cops would be called. Nobody went to bars or clubs until they were 21. I did lots of drugs prior to turning 21 (mainly before 18 actually) but I wasn't getting into bars or clubs in my college town. Aren't you like 35+ anyways?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/17 09:29 AM
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I think she's motherly lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/17 09:23 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dEDF59TUPw That girl's backside looks gross lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/17 09:21 AM
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That's how I feel about the word "toxic". I guarantee that 90% of the things called "toxic" are not truly toxic...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/17 09:13 AM
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I don't think he was ever serious.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/17 09:07 AM
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I mean...I understand why people do that. Nobody wants to call themselves or their SO a "5". 7 sounds much better. But 5 is the middle of the scale. Most people fall in the middle, even if they don't want to believe it. it would be weird to have half of all people just be unattractive Is anyone with an IQ under 100 stupid? Half of all people have an IQ under 100. I doubt that the average person would consider someone with an IQ of 95 to be stupid (just not very bright). I think the scale is set …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/17 02:34 AM
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Lol no! Actually my mom will be 59 this year.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/17 02:28 AM
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You sound so similar to my mom sometimes lol. That probably sounds weird. She was a lawyer too.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/17 04:51 AM
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I basically just said made a comment that says the same thing as thing lol. I agree with everything you said. Especially the trouble with making female friends, that's the hardest for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/17 12:53 AM
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Why would a woman not understand? Women are ALSO trying to attract the opposite sex. I go to the gym so that I'm hot to men. I learn how to cook because that's something many men like in an LTR. I wear sexy clothes when I go out and want attention. I'm especially nice or flirty when I want to talk to people. Those are all things women do to attract men. I don't say "it's impossible" from the get go. And there are lots of women who don't get attention or don't get attention from the caliber of ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/17 11:02 PM
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Yeah and I'm saying it's not "impossible". The simple fact that he thinks it's truly impossible shows that he's defeatist - an unattractive mindset to have. It's not "impossible" unless you have something like a horrible bodily disfigurement, mental disorder, or extreme unfixable ugliness. Everything else can be worked on. I don't feel bad for most incels because I think that many of them bring it on themselves with their attitudes and entitlement issues. And your arguement of "it's impossible b…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/17 10:31 PM
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If someone can't get a girlfriend/boyfriend despite being supposedly awesome, they probably aren't as awesome as they think they are. I am in a happy relationship so I don't have this problem. It was simply an example of how it could play out. I am not perfect, I know where some of my faults lie. But people who act like they are perfect and can't get a relationship despite being perfect are the ones in denial. If you have a counter argument, I'd be happy to hear it. If not, I don't know what the…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/17 10:11 PM
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Then there is clearly something wrong with them that they are not admitting to themselves. That's the whole point that spaceboobs is making. You can think you're awesome (a doctor, a fitness fanatic, whatever) and focus only on the awesome things about yourself while ignoring the bad traits. Nobody is perfect and I guarantee that they have negative traits too. If I'm hot and smart and always going to the gym, but am a huge bitch to anyone and everyone, then I probably won't have any successful r…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/17 09:49 PM
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I don't need a statistics lesson. Nor did I ever say anything about the mean being half the maximum. In this case (i.e. rating physical attractiveness) the scale goes from 1-10, so it is. You're just going on a complete tangent.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/17 09:13 PM
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I'm not talking about your situation. I'm talking about men who place no priority on having any contact and/or relationships with women, regardless of "extenuating circumstances". Men who want relationships with women (of any nature) will seek them out one way or another.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/17 09:01 PM
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But then it's highly likely that he would not be compatible with most women. Women like sex, they like to feel wanted, they like emotional attachment in their relationships. A man who had no desire for 20 years to seek out any of that is not going to be a good relationship prospect regardless of what his other achievements are. There are lots of smart people in the world who also have time to work out and socialize and form relationships. Most dermatologists I've met are married, have a family, …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/17 08:35 PM
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What is your point? RP likes to generalize, not focus on the special snowflakes of the world. You were trying to make an argument based on outliers, which is not all that useful in the context of this sub. I'm not asking 1000 women whether they truly like ONS and NSA sex, but you've already admitted that they are not in the majority and I know that they are a small minority. So I do not know what your argument is, other than inane semantics.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/17 08:30 PM
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Lol okay. This has just been more of a persuasive argument that you are somewhere on the narcissistic personality spectrum.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/17 06:42 PM
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But on a bell curve, the mean is always at the center. We were taking about a bell curve. As for your Kuwait example.... Either each distribution would have to be unique to a specific part of the world or people in Kuwait would almost all be below average on a global scale.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/17 06:30 PM
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You just sound like a narcissist. None of that says those women would actually go home with you. You're interpreting and/or projecting that. I'm nice and sometimes flirty to guys at bars because I'm like to have conversations with people (and get in on a game of darts or whatever). And probably some of them go home and say "damn, this hot girl totally wanted to fuck me". When I didn't in the slightest. You don't know what other people are thinking, but none of them went home with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/17 06:13 PM
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You have no baggage and yet you get more propositions from women? Do you just not take women up on their propositions? Because otherwise you're likely accruing relationship baggage of some sort. Which is what I assumd spaceboobs was talking about when she said "baggage". She didn't mean money problems. I wouldn't want to marry a 35 year old man who has had a string of failed relationships - or worse - no relationships. How will I know that he has any knowledge of how to conduct himself in a rela…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/17 06:04 PM
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Why would the mean be 3? The scale usually goes from 1-10 so the mean should be 5 as attractiveness does fall on a bell curve. Instead men like to say they're hooking up with a "7" (who's actually average) because that sounds better than hooking up with a 5. At least that's my impression from reading TRP and their field reports lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/17 05:58 PM
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Well yes, but you could say that about almost anything. There will always be outliers. Does it make sense to focus on outliers? And to base our arguments off outliers? No, not really. There is a reason why scientists focus on averages.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/17 05:45 PM
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The majority of women are not like that. I'm a 23 year-old girl. A very small number of my friends enjoyed and sought out casual sex (basically 2) just for the sake of sex. The rest were looking for sex in the context of a relationship or with some form of emotional attachment. And being pumped and dumped was usually an emotional and uncomfortable experience for the vast majority of my friends not a "reward" because she got to have sex. That's just not how most women approach sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 09:25 PM
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A surprising percent of sugar babies are not even that attractive, at least if the sugar subreddit is a somewhat accurate representation.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 05:21 PM
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Maybe it's just me, but I want to be the prettiest girl in a room. Not just a pretty girl, but the prettiest. So I get insecurity from that. It's really weird. Maybe it's just part of my competitive streak, but I kinda doubt it. Pretty girls want to be told that they're pretty so they can compare themselves to other females who they think are also pretty.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 05:12 PM
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I studied Chemical engineering and computer science. Idk about the other poster. Men's average IQ isn't higher than women's. I don't know why this is even up for debate on PPD. Their distributions are different though.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/17 10:36 PM
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Maybe you can maybe you can't What? I've take BOTH the SAT and the Standford Binet test. Mensa's "minimum accepted score for the Stanford-Binet is 132". MY score on the Stanford Binet is 138. I don't even know what your point is other than to try and act superior than other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/17 10:07 PM
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No it says "SAT 1". Can you not read? That website has conversions for multiple types of SAT exams throughout the years, the page I specifically linked to was for the SAT 1, not the one issued prior to 1995. And I have no idea about the Mensa IQ exam. The Stanford Binet is most widely accepted and was what I was going off of. Mensa is just some stupid club for people who need to toot their own horn, as far as I'm concerned.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/17 09:40 PM
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What are you talking about? There is still a conversion. If you take your math score and your verbal score (out of 1600), you can get a conversion to IQ. The SAT is still reasoning based. If I take my V+M score and use the sat conversation, my IQ ends up being 1 point off what I score on standford Binet tests. Which is pretty damn close. http://www.iqcomparisonsite.com/SATIQ.aspx
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/17 09:31 PM
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No you just use a different conversion for SAT tests after a certain time. And you only use math and verbal, not the whole score. And I wasn't referring strictly to the SAT. I had to take tests all throughout middle school and high school. Not just the SAT. If you score in the 99th percentile consistently all throughout grade school, high school, your PSAT, your SAT...then you most likely have an IQ in the 99th percentile. How is that hard to comprehend? And my scores were pretty consistent. And…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/17 09:18 PM
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According to lots of people? According to the guys that hit on me, people who tell me I'm pretty, the attention I get when I'm out compared to most. It's pretty easy to know if you are attractive or not. And I'm not saying it in a conceited way. Most people know if they can be considered attractive, whether they want to admit it or not. Do you need a picture or something? I have no reason to spout bullshit to strangers on the Internet. We are talking about people in their prime age, your view is…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/17 09:12 PM
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I was a stem "nerd". Studied chemical engineering and CS(which was boring as shit actually). And I'm attractive..and had many attractive peers in my chemical engineering courses. I think it's the CS nerds who make it seem like every smart person is some ugly dweeb.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/17 08:49 PM
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Okay...whatever makes you feel better about yourself lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/17 08:44 PM
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Well I'm a hot science bitch ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/17 08:42 PM
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SAT correlates more closely with IQ than the ACT. The ACT tests learned knowledge more than reasoning skills. But I was mainly referencing tests like the PSAT or statewide tests that are administered throughout the course of primary and secondary school. I had to take those starting at a pretty young age (probably around 3rd grade or so).
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/17 08:39 PM
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lol Mensa.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/17 06:11 AM
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Have you never had to take standardized tests while in school? I used to have to take them all throughout school (middle school, high school). You can extrapolate based on that if you don't want to take an actual test. It's pretty consistent.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/17 06:10 AM
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And it's sad to contemplate that a person is shut out from various-and-diverse forms of happiness and various-and-diverse opportunities in life because they lack trait X/Y/Z, whereas another person has various-and-diverse doors open for them and basks in admiration/love/worship and reaches great heights (sexual and otherwise) because they possess those physical traits. It's called genetics. Blame your parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/17 06:05 AM
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We need an IQ equivalent for the word shallow. Then I can be shallow and prejudiced against low IQ people.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/17 06:02 AM
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Attractiveness and intelligence are positively correlated. So it's likely that the nerds are not only unattractive, but also not that intelligent.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/17 06:00 AM
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You can't. I suppose if you really wanted to there's HGH and steroids. I can't ever make my boobs naturally grow 4 cup sizes without gaining massive amounts of weight. It is what it is. There is no second puberty, sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/17 05:57 AM
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F=m/a. i can only imagine some little nerd going home to measure the force of his ejaculation.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/17 05:55 AM
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everyone else got the rule book of arbitrary dating shit that I didn't. Who cares? I personally think it'd be weird if I met a guy who had never had a gf or sex by the age of 25. It would mean we mostly likely have different priorities or place different value on certain things. Did you go to college? Maybe I could understand not dating if you didn't. Anyways don't take everything literally. There is nuance. "Don't be a slut" doesn't mean "don't have sex til you're married". Also I'm pretty sure…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/17 05:49 AM
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people who decide to get married share traits which tend towards more stable families than those who decide not to, to be specific less of them ARE a family unit. Exactly. So why would I bear the children of a man who is less likely to share those traits? It makes no sense. No sensible woman would bear the children of a man who won't even commit to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/17 03:53 AM
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I was lucky enough to have an LTR when I found RP. It sounds like you don't. But I also had this same kind of anxiety over what men on the TRP sub would say (I found it at 19...now 23). Don't let TRP consume you. The majority of men don't care if you've had a couple boyfriends. If your n-count is 3 or 0, most men don't give a flying fuck. Guess what? My boyfriend has never given me a facial while my ex has. And he doesn't know....and he probably doesn't care. It's important to live life. Yeah do…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/17 03:48 AM
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God TMI. I don't even know how you're measuring the force...but whatever. It's called puberty and the effects are caused by a surge in hormone levels at a young age. How does a 27 year-old not understand that already?!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/17 07:47 AM
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This seems like an OCD level of anxiety for something that is unlikely to happen with proper and responsible use of birth control. If you don't want to have sex, that's one thing. I guess I just don't understand how someone can want to miss out on such a big part of life for something that is relatively easy to control with birth control. Sex is part of romantic relationships, it would be hard to untangle the two. Or find a normal guy who would actually wait to get married. I just turned 23 (lik…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/17 07:28 AM
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Some girls get boobs before they start menstruating, even. Yeah. I had DDs at 14, but my period wasn't regular until I was 19.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/17 02:32 AM
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like hips not being widened out fully, peak fertility is soon after puberty. I'd guess 15-18 years. Hips don't widen out fully until earlyish 20s (22-24). Teenagers can actually have trouble giving birth because their pelvis is not large enough. Most 15 year olds are just starting to have regular periods, not at their peak fertility.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/17 02:28 AM
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Why would any guy date a woman he doesn't want to fuck? Guys usually have higher standards for appearance in relationships, not lower ones, at least in my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/17 12:49 AM
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How is it not obvious though? Did you never hear males talking about attractive women? I would always hear males talking how hot X girl is, talking to their friends and stuff. I never heard them saying "damnnn that girl is so smart". Did you grow up under a rock?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/17 12:42 AM
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I know that is a thing, but I almost refuse to believe it. Like...why???
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 04:45 AM
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I am repulsed when I hear that someone is a SAHF. That is just my gut reaction and I can't help it. I hear of stay at home dads a lot on reddit, not so much in the real world. But then again, most of the people at my work are male. And most of my friends are in their 20s.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 12:36 AM
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Needy women would also be the type of women who would want to go everywhere with their boyfriend. Guys night out? Girlfriend wants to go too! Guy wants some alone time...too bad. Needy girlfriend needs boyfriend time. Always curious about what you're doing and why. This gets annoying. I like to ask my bf "why" a lot...because I'm genuinely curious why he thinks/feels a certain way. When he says, "you look especially good today", I usually respond with "why?". Because I was to know so that I can …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 12:23 AM
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Personally I can say my hips didn't widen until after 20 (not weight gain related, just body shape changing into an adult shape). Yep same here. My hips widened and my body looked more womanly around 21-22. And I didn't gain any weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 06:52 PM
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She still has a girl's face and hips. Uhh..she has some pretty big hips for a 14 year old. Most 14 year-olds don't have that kind of WHR. I had a round face at 20. She looks closer to 20 than 14.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 08:45 AM
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I would call myself an apple, but my WHR is 0.7 so clearly not that much of an apple. I've had to work pretty hard to get a nice butt...lots of time in the gym. But it can be done. Also apple shapes usually have big boobs and nice legs, so it's not all bad. But it is more important to stay thin. Then again I've definitely seen some extreme apple shapes that could probably never achieve an attractive WHR even at unhealthy body fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 04:54 AM
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Have you been in an LTR? Like for 2+ years (once honeymoon phase has worn off)...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 04:46 AM
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I want to spend 24/7 together with a partner! Otherwise what would be the point? Needing your partner 24/7 is not codependency? Than what is? I'd go crazy if I had to spend 24/7 with anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 04:18 AM
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Idk I'm a female.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 04:17 AM
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I'd probably get bored or something and felt that they had stopped loving me if they were absent. This is sarcastic, right? That's called codependency. Get a hobby.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 04:08 AM
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I like the way jumpsuits look, I would just never wear one. Men don't find them sexy. I don't find them practical. It's like...what is the point? I think that is my major issue with high fashion.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 04:00 AM
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I'm too tall for bodysuits (which sucks - they're so cute) and most rompers. I think they're made for short people.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 03:54 AM
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As someone who struggles with depression, this will be a bit harder. I do the base minimum, but I can try to be more friendly. I just always feel awkward making small talk though. Sounds like these are your problems. If you are attractive enough, you can get away with being quiet/awkward (as a female). It sounds like you aren't, so you'll have to have a more friendly demeanor if you want guys to approach you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 03:50 AM
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I don't understand rompers. They're like an unsexy version of a dress. And they aren't even that practical.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 03:41 AM
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Yeah. Honestly one of my biggest fears is getting in a horrific car accident or something and having a messed up face for the rest of my life. There is no getting around that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 03:33 AM
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I think cheating can be worked through. Lots of couples work through it. I guess it depends on the situation and whether there is an emotional attachment involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 03:02 AM
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And what is a strong reason? Aside from domestic abuse, is there ever really a "strong" reason for divorce? I am not defending divorce on this premise, I think divorce is low class and usually avoidable. The CMV was more of my opinion on why women divorce their husbands after years of marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 02:57 AM
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I disagree. Unless you get a lot of plastic surgery, there is no changing your facial bone structure. Or your body shape (apple vs pear or a defined waist vs rectangular torso). Maybe some really good makeup can take your face up a point or two, but not by much.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 02:47 AM
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Yes I work as a chemical engineer. My competence? I do well at my job, my managers and coworkers like me and my work. I get good reviews. Do you ever feel like you can't keep up? No. Testosterone provides some advantages...but it doesn't make you smarter. IQ provides other huge advantages. So while I might not have a lot of testosterone, I am very smart. I might not have the drive or energy to work 60+ hours weeks consistently, but I don't usually have to. Work smarter, not harder.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 08:17 PM
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If you are a family unit it makes no difference to the child whether you put a ring on it. That's false and there have been many studies proving it. Growing up with both parents (in an intact family) is strongly associated with more education, work, and income among today’s young men and women. increases your odds of becoming highly educated, which in turn leads to higher odds of being married as an adult. Both the added education and marriage result in higher income levels. Indeed, men and wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 08:04 PM
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I completely agree. But we're 23 and not ready for marriage yet. He did move to California to be with me though, so it's not like we're casually dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 09:44 PM
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Okay. It's pretty trivial anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 09:43 PM
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Lol no. I'm not gonna do that. He moved for me, clearly he is very committed. And I don't need distrust in my relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 09:34 PM
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Yeah and I definitely think that is an ideal situation. Women naturally want to take care of the home. Like I just feel an instinct to want to make it a nice place. My boyfriend likes it to be a nice place and he likes it to be clean, but he doesn't feel the same way as I do. Which is why I think the whole egalitarian marriage is stupid. It just doesn't make sense. Makes for unhappy couples.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 09:27 PM
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No. I am 5'9". My boyfriend is just under 5'11". I think that's probably the minimum height for me, maybe 5'10". But guys always exaggerate their height, so to be safe I say 5'11".
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 09:05 PM
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For a girl to test frame, you have to suggest a hit to her social status. Can you explain this? I don't really know what you mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 09:02 PM
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own less shit. LOL tell that to my BF. I actually like getting rid of stuff and keeping it pretty minimal, while still being functional. He likes to collect all sorts of stuff. Sometimes he'll find a "really great deal" on craigslist, buy it, and it will sit in a garage for months. In Colorado, that wasn't a big deal, but out in CA, garage space is expensive. I asked RPWi and pissed off their queen bee so they threatened to ban me. So I asked that they ban me lol. I can't imagine what atlas woul…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 09:01 PM
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What I am doing currently? It doesn't need to be defended.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 08:56 PM
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The midwest just seems so boring. I've always lived near the west coast. AZ, CO, now CA.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 08:55 PM
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Yes. I think I was a bit emotional and just kind of spilled out everything that I had been feeling. I was trying to do nice things for him and he didn't want to spend a couple minutes to help me or even spend time talking to me about his day. I didn't lose patience, but I did say it makes me feel unappreciated and kind of hurt. And I suppose it's criticism if I'd like him to help more. Idk our conversation didn't get very far. I'll try again in a few days where I'll hopefully be less emotional.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 08:54 PM
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Yeah I'm trying to work on this. We just recently moved in together a couple months ago so I think it probably warrants a discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 08:49 PM
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essentially treat everything mom did as bad, and doing the exact oppositte as 'good' No. Actually I think my mom did the right thing. And if I'm being honest with myself, I would probably do the same thing if I had been in her situation. I was temporarily mad at my dad when I was 16 and fearful that they would divorce. But they didn't and I'm glad. Probably why you're hung up on HIM being more of the domestic role, because you would hate to end up like your mom. No, actually you have it all back…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 08:24 PM
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I meant that withholding sex to get something is dumb. If you meant something different by sexual manipulation, then I apologize. I didn't mean that was dumb. I guess when I hear sexual manipulation I think: using sex to manipulate someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 08:09 PM
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Also wtf is wrong with you? My boyfriend is absolutely not temporary. Our move to California is temporary. Seriously wtf?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 08:08 PM
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This issue you have is from not properly vetting a man you live with and needing him to live there to afford your new expensive CA electric bills What? We've been together for over 3 years. I vetted him just fine. Things have changed since we moved in together. When he lived with roommates, he was very clean. I used to joke that he had mild OCD. Now he is not. If you married a man who turned into an alcoholic 5 years into your marriage, is that your fault for not "properly vetting"? And I can af…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 08:04 PM
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Idk. I would never intentionally withhold sex to get what I wanted. If I was turned off by something that my BF did, then maybe I wouldn't want to have sex. But that wouldn't be intentional. And honestly that doesn't really happen anyways. In calling it dumb, I was referring to women who withhold sex to get what they want. Which is what I thought you were initially referencing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 07:58 PM
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You are convinced that I am an obsessive cleaner when I'm not. It's somehow my fault for not seeing into the future that he would change his cleaning habits after moving in together? He had always been very self-sufficient and tidy prior to moving in together. I don't think men should ever move for a woman, nor do I think women should earn more than the man. It just creates too many problems, regardless of how enlightened and progressive the couple claims to be. I am not progressive. This is a t…
/r/RedPillWives26/04/17 07:56 PM
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I completely agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 07:26 PM
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Not married. I like sex though.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 07:25 PM
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'I bought us a pressure cooker and made us beef stew because you complained of eating the same boring foods lately and I also bought some other new stuff to try out'. And I don't particularly like cooking and would be fine with eating eggs or protein shakes for days on end. or 'Let's go out and explore the new town and try a nice restaurant, I'll get it, I just want to have a good night with you'. I did furnish and decorate our entire apartment and my boyfriend has actually told me how much he l…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 07:24 PM
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What do you mean? Sexual manipulation? I enjoy sex. I don't use it as a tool to get what I want. That's dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 07:17 PM
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So while i can see why she needs to vacuum frequently i dont really see why she comes and tells me every time. does she deserve praise for cleaning up her own mess? Oh, I don't do that lol. I usually just clean up. It's also pretty obvious when a vacuum is on anyways hah.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 07:15 PM
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Why do you say that we are a bad fit? I am not disagreeing, just genuinely curious.
/r/RedPillWives26/04/17 07:13 PM
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Y'all act like I nag all the time. I don't. I FEEL resentment, which is the problem. And I want to know how to deal with that in a healthy manner. Last night I tried to discuss how I was feeling. Yes I have asked that he try to keep the toilet seat down in the front bathroom. But I usually just do stuff or clean up for him and don't say anything. And clearly it is making me resentful. That is the issue.
/r/RedPillWives26/04/17 07:12 PM
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I don't feel the need to compulsively clean. I feel the need to clean when it's dirty...which is exactly what I said. I don't need it to be spotless. And it never is. But certain things should be put away...like dirty dishes
/r/RedPillWives26/04/17 07:09 PM
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I don't care about money or how many hours he works. I really don't. We split everything equally, so it doesn't affect me whether he works 20 hours or 40. He can pay his share of the bills either way. I don't resent that he works at home or that he works fewer hours, I truly don't. I have tried to have a talk with him. He just brushes it off. I think that frustrates me more. I don't usually open up to him and he is usually the more emotional one, so when I open up (in a "I feel like some of my n…
/r/RedPillWives26/04/17 07:04 PM
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I have tried to talk. He just thinks I'm being unreasonable. And I try to understand his reasoning behind why he thinks I'm being unreasonable, but it's hard to get anywhere. Which is weird because usually he's the one who wants to have talks or emotional discussions. And he hates when I lock the bedroom door. Like REALLY hates it. So I've made a very conscious effort to stop doing it, because it clearly really bothers him. I guess I just don't understand why he wouldn't reciprocate with the toi…
/r/RedPillWives26/04/17 06:58 PM
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Yeah cause y'all are not helpful with your holier-than-thou attitudes acting like every relationship is perfect. But seriously. Do you never have realtalk with your husband? Do you just brush everything under the rug? You never have tips for dealing with actual issues. Just break up. Or act feminine. I try to act pretty feminine doing all the housework while keeping nagging to a minimum and always being willing to have sex. And being attractive and looking nice. But sometimes it feels like too m…
/r/RedPillWives26/04/17 06:52 PM
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It's not 'gross' unless the toilet is constantly dirty? But is is dirty. When there are pee stains all over the toilet, that isn't somewhat gross? I don't clean the toilet regularly because I have never had a need to prior to this. He hit the jackpot because you are an obsessive cleaner, and you take care of everything. But I'm not an obsessive cleaner. When there are dishes scattered across the living room, I put them in the dishwasher. Is that obsessive? I don't regularly wash the floors or sc…
/r/RedPillWives26/04/17 06:46 PM
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Tastes?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 06:36 PM
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Idk I don't date whipped men. Nor do I inquire about their relationship situations.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 06:35 PM
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Same. And actually, my boyfriend was very good about keeping his place clean before we moved in together.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 06:34 PM
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We have two pets. One of them tracks litter all throughout the house. All over the hardwood floors, the dining table, kitchen counters. It's gross. So I vacuum pretty frequently mainly to get rid of that. If we didn't have the little litter tracker, I probably wouldn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 06:33 PM
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Because we need to eat and food doesn't just cook itself. And because the dishes need to be cleaned and the raw meat remnants need to be scrubbed off the counter, as it's not sanitary or pleasant to see/smell. And we need clean clothes or towels for showers and work. And my hobbies don't take place in the house. They're lifting weights and rock climbing. And at 9pm when my bf starts playing video games while I cook dinner, I can't exactly drop everything and go to the gym. And because I live in …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 06:29 PM
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That sounds like a you problem. Not a relationships in general problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 06:25 PM
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My wife complains about doing too much chores and taking care too much of our child, she doesn't even fucking work nor cook nor does the groceries, she spends 5h a day handling chores and the kid and I spend 10hour away from my home But that is not even what I'm talking about in this post. I'm talking about WORKING WOMEN. SAHMs have no excuse to complain about housework, that's literally their job. Don't begin an argument by just picturing terpies as cry baby or I don't know what, it's not neces…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 06:24 PM
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Ooooh. Yeah some coke and a few drinks will definitely do that. Ecstasy might just make him bug eyed and creepy lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 06:20 PM
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Most parents are awarded joint custody nowadays. Women are unlikely to get alimony, and if they do, it's generally only temporary. Assets earned during a marriage are subject to being split. But a working women would presumably have contributed to those assets and therefore rightly deserves some of the joint property. If men show up to court and aren't a stumbling mess, they can easily get joint custody. Maybe it was different in the past, but things have changed.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 06:19 PM
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I don't feel oppressed in the slightest. I actually think that being a attractive female in a male dominated industry has given me an advantage. I am more likely to be hired, as the most obvious example. "women want a more balanced lifestyle than men so they choose to work less and pick less demanding careers, hence the earning gap." I completely agree 100%. Testosterone is a powerful hormone with many beneficial effects. It increases motivation, energy, decreases anxiety and depression, so ther…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 06:14 PM
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Then a tall guy? No? I'm sure I'd be pretty damn traumatized either way.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 06:06 PM
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What is your point exactly? I think it's more likely that women divorce their husbands because they are resentful of what I described in the OP, rather than wanting some fresh Chad dick at the age of 45. Where does that say "I have it all figured out"? This is a debate sub based mostly on opinion. Can I not have an opinion without having everything "all figured out"?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 06:01 PM
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But why do you need to defend what you want in life? I never said that? Unless you mean defending wanting to work less and be a SAHM or something to that effect. Men would interpret that as a gold digger or a lazy moocher. I'm neither of those, I just know that a less stressful life would make me happier and in turn, I could make my partner happier and our relationship better.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 05:57 PM
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Don't leave his dirty dishes all over the place. Unload the dishwasher from time to time. Help me take out the trash without complaining. Put down the toilet seat in the powder room right next to the front door. All relatively basic. All significantly less than what I do. Also just support me when I'm trying to do something nice for us and need help. When he's playing video games and I can't figure out how to use the new pressure cooker I just bought us.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 05:54 PM
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I don't want a successful career. I just want a job to pay bills and save money and support myself as necessary. Most women have to work. It's not a choice. Telling them not to get married is kind of silly.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 05:48 PM
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Yeah. I'm in san diego...where $70k isn't even enough for your own place. A year ago, I never thought I would ever live in cali. I hoped they would segregate lol. Look at me now.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 05:47 PM
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How is it entitled to want some modicum of help around the house? My boyfriend works at home, works fewer hours. I don't mind that he does that. I have a regular job, work 40+ hours, commute to work, make more money. And honestly, NONE of that makes me resentful or upset. What does make me resentful is doing everything at home. Or expressing my feelings to my boyfriend only to have them not register. I am not entitled. I don't think it's entitled to ask for a couple simple things when I am doing…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 05:42 PM
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Where did I ever say I need a career? I explicitly said: "I'll never be a career woman." I have a job. I work as an engineering consultant. I'm not trying to climb the corporate ladder. But I'm 23 and straight out of college and need to support myself at least until I get married and have kids. There is a difference between what I view as a "career woman" and a woman with a job. I am the latter.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 05:35 PM
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Yeah seriously. And I kinda doubt that Costco on a weekend is enjoyable for anyone. So I don't know how honest /u/squidracer is being with us or himself.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 05:32 PM
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What makes you think I am not high value? If my boyfriend started acting a bit more "high value", then I would probably put up with a lot more shit. But I'm slim, attractive, come from a well off family, have hobbies and discipline, am friendly (when I'm not in introvert-leave-me-alone-mode). I could probably snag a higher value man, but I've also been with my boyfriend for over 3 years and have a lot invested in this relationship. This is a rough patch which hopefully ends soon. And I don't nee…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 05:27 PM
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Wow wikipedia thinks upper middle class starts at $62k. LOL. I was thinking more like $100k (or higher). I make more than $62k and I have a roommate (plus my bf)! I always assumed I grew up in a UMC household even when my dad was making a few million a year. And I'd consider doctors to be UMC, not UC, because they work for a living. I think basing it strictly off income is weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 05:12 PM
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It's not that I don't think I should have to do it. I just think we should both do at least some of it. It doesn't have to be a 50/50 exactly even split, I don't even care about that. But barely contributing or not contributing at all? Now that seems is a breeding ground for resentment. Also my boyfriend works from home and works fewer hours than I do. I suppose he gets a slightly higher hourly rate, but I still make slightly more because I work more and am salaried. I truly do not mind that at …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 05:07 PM
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No I wouldn't. Maybe I'd do it for a high value alpha male who also didn't need my income and then sure, I'd become a SAHM or whatever. But working 40+ hours as an engineer and doing all household chores is not remedied by a "high value alpha male" by itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 04:04 PM
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How is that a weak reason? Years and years of growing resentment because your husband can't just help out around the house to lift some of the stress from his wife? Did you even read the whole post? Resentment leads to lack of attraction and if you're not even attracted anymore AND you're stressed/resentful, then what is the point?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 04:00 PM
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I do think terpers are wrong on this one. And I agree with RP principles. I just don't agree with the terpers implementation and extrapolation of the original principles (like the Chad obsession). But this is also a CMV, so I obviously think terpers are wrong otherwise it wouldnt be a CMV. And where did I attack their personality?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 03:56 PM
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Time for what exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 03:53 PM
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Mmm nope. Never said I had it all figured out. I said that it makes sense to me why women get divorced at 45. Because prior to living with my BF, I could not understand for the life of me why a woman would want to be single at 45 or older. Also my boyfriend does work fewer hours than I do. He could work more, but chooses not to. And he works from home. I don't care about either of those things. I just wish he'd help out around the house.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 03:52 PM
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Lol fuck the Bay Area. That some stress like I could not deal with. I was given a choice of Bay Area or San Diego for my current job. Sure wasn't the Bay Area lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 03:49 PM
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I'm in my early 20s, went to college, have had 3 partners (sorry not one of your holy virgins). I NEVER found the career woman lifestyle appealing. But that's what you do when you grow up in a UMC/UC household: you go to college.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 03:47 PM
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Really? I can't tell if you're being serious lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 03:45 PM
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I'm not talking about SAHMs who have all day to navel graze. Many women have full time jobs and are still expected to do all the chores.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 03:43 PM
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No. Men splitting a place bitch about each other and how none of them do enough of the chores. My 2 college boyfriends lived in a total of 5 separate houses each ranging from 4-9 bedrooms. And they all had the same complaints. Unless you like your floor caked in dirt, broken windows, and 5 randos getting drunk at your place on a daily basis. One house was just too far gone and everyone gave up.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 03:41 PM
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I DO HAVE MY OWN HOBBIES. And I would love to have more time to spend on them. Weight lifting, rock climbing, sometimes running. But those take time and I can only go a couple times a week if I'm also doing all the housework. Edit: how is the weight lifting not a hobby? Why do hobbies have to be things like video games? I don't care about video games. Or knitting or crafts.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 03:36 PM
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Nah. Not all men are assholes. My parents were both lawyers, but when my mom had me, she quit her job and my dad was fine with it. Then he became a land developer and made her move to the US...so there's that lol. She did all the housework and child-rearing. He earned a shit ton of money. He never felt any resentment. If it wasn't for my moms comitment to him and work around the house, he wouldn't be where he is today. Even if the woman doesn't explicitly earn money, she can save the amount of m…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 03:34 PM
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I didn't want this life. Feminists did.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 03:26 PM
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Then hire a maid if you make so much money. Which you don't...I make the same as you and I'm not rolling in $$$. Or selectively screen for women who make as much as you. You knew when you committed to her that her job paid $25k. But she's still working during those hours and getting tired and stressed. Just because a job is lower paid doesn't necessarily make it any less time consuming or stressful. 10 extra hours in a week is more time then most people spend cleaning anyway Not really. That's a…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 03:23 PM
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LOTS of corporate jobs are like that. And he said he makes "all the money" so it doesn't sound like he's in a trade, unless he's a master craftsman or something and that isn't exactly "brutal physical labor".
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 03:14 PM
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Yesterday after I got off work around 5, I went to the grocery storw to buy food. I got home around 6:40. Had to pack all the grocieres. Then I prepare food for about 45 minutes. Have to go back to the store to buy a pressure cooker. Do more prep, which my boyfriend really didn't want to be involved in(despite him "wanting to try" the pressure cooker). By that time it was 9:15. I had maybe 30 minutes of downtime in there. Then cleaning up after eating. So a little over 4 hours of work to grocery…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 03:09 PM
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You act as if women do 0 work and earn $0. There are plenty of relationships where the woman out earns the man. Or where their earnings are roughly on par. And most people get married because they want kids. Do you suggest that they do that outside of a marriage? Because the is detrimental to be child and gives the father even fewer rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 02:57 PM
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Really? That seems smaller than what I would expect. Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 02:54 PM
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Because I have more productive things to do. The gym is one example. I'd rather have a nice butt than play video games.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 11:32 AM
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The average is probably pulled down by all the super young military marriages...well and super young marriages in general. These are not the divorces TRP likes to reference. Do most 30 year old men have children? Or much wealth that can be divorce raped away? Most men on TRP talk about custody and alimony... Plus I though "the wall" was around 30 anyways lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 11:30 AM
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What?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 11:25 AM
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Because all men. Why is AWALT widely accepted and I can't say "men"? I didn't even say "all men".
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 11:24 AM
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I can't change your view because I agree that expectations for women are out of line. Yeah. I just don't care about a career all that much. I make good money, but I'll never be a career woman. I'd much rather be a girlfriend with a decent job that doesn't stress me out and doesn't consume all my time so I can take care of the house and stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 11:04 AM
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Loaded fallacy and ad hominam fallacy all the way. Explain exactly how it's a loaded fallacy and ad hominem fallacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 11:02 AM
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Women initiate divorce because they don't "love" their man anymore. This is exactly what I addressed in my original post. It's a gradual loss of love which is caused by growing resentment of feeling like his free maid or his mom, not his wife or lover. You're ridiculous. I'm not ridiculous. How much time have you spent browsing the TRP sub? I've been educated very early to believe those should be done 50/50 by each parent. Should being the operative word. Sure both parents should split all house…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 11:01 AM
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No they don't. What woman wants to be single at 45+? Seriously? There is absolutely more to it than that. And in the long run, splitting the household finances after a divorce will make her less well off financially than if she were to stay with her husband, so that argument kind of falls apart. Most women don't get alimony anymore, certainly not the ones who are working full time. And if they do, it's generally temporary. Divorce rape is over hyped.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 10:55 AM
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Women's self hatred is at once apparent and irrelevant. Wow. If you're not an incel or narcissist, I'd be shocked.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 09:35 AM
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I don't believe women are disadvantaged...I actually think I have an advantage over my male peers. And many women on this sub are not feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 09:27 AM
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women that like to blame external sources (usually men) And when this happens, men like to bury their head in the sand and act like nothing could possibly be their fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 09:23 AM
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Mmm okay. I hate this argument. I was in all the AP classes my school offered (well except spanish cause I took latin) and on varsity track and cross country. I also did a lot of ecstasy (like a lotttt) and went to raves and did other drugs. It's dumb to put people in boxes. I did better in high school than most of straight and narrow, type-A kids and it didn't cost me my livelihood. In college, I was in both "crowds" I suppose.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 09:10 AM
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I don't use drugs often anymore. And when I do it's with friends and my BF. I did a lot in high school. young and dumb....lol. It did not prevent me from getting male attention and/or commitment though FYI. edit: also this may be highly dependent on your age. I'm 23. ecstasy/molly and cocaine weren't uncommon in some of my social circles in college and they were downright routine in some of my others. I was an engineering major (and an introvert) so I wasn't all party hardy all the time either. …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 07:51 AM
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Meh. All the drugs in the world couldn't make me want to hook up with a short guy. Actually they just make me more confident...and more likely to think that I should go for the tall, hot guy! yay drugs!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 06:44 AM
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not just "do wat you want" because wtf does this sub even exist if nobody has any good ideas on what should be done. Then the best thing is monogamy. Monogamous societies are more advanced than polygamous ones. They're also likely more productive than ones where casual sex is frequent and inter-marital birth rates are low. That's obviously on a very large scale so it doesn't make sense to debate since it's just theory. People can only change themselves...and maybe have a slight impact on the peo…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/17 06:27 AM
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it's not obvious you are a woman. fuck. really? her flair says "Scarlett O'Horror". Have you never seen Gone With The Wind? I'm not even old and I get the reference...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/17 06:18 AM
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umc, those guys will def date a woman that is of lesser status. Then they're probably not upper middle class. UMC parents care who their little Timmy pairs off with. They pave the way for their son to succeed in life: they pay for private school (or a good public school district), ACT prep, sports, maybe a car, etc. And if he tries to marry a low class girl with a low IQ, trashy family, or mental health problems? They'll intervene. They want their son to succeed. They want to have a nice daughte…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/17 04:40 AM
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"nerd elitism" Lol I love it. I took quite a few CS courses during my last semester. Tbh I rarely went to those classes, but when I did, there were always super nerdy guys who thought they knew everything and would answer every question or complete the professor's sentences before they even were even done. It was always entertaining when the professor had to tell them the nerd that no...actually they were wrong. edit: spelling/grammar...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/17 05:27 PM
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I am aware. Doctors also HATE taking medicaid patients because they lose money. It's not like it's a good system. So what is your point? You said that we needed the ACA because of poor people. Poor people already had a fallback, medicaid. Which why the only reason I mentioned it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/17 02:46 AM
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This is how I feel as well. Something in my mind prevents me from saying it so bluntly...probably my years of liberal schooling lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/17 02:07 AM
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libertarian...alt-right in some respects.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/17 02:02 AM
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sex them to death! if it can even be considered sex...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/17 01:53 AM
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How was it a nightmare? Please be specific... Premiums were significantly cheaper with lower deductibles and better coverage. Which sounds a lot better than the current nightmare we have. So please, tell me how it was a "nightmare". Do you have any idea how insulting it is to tell poor people they should "save" for healthcare? For truly poor people, there is medicaid. What is wrong with that? We aren't a socialist country. Why is it my responsibility to pay for other people? One medical procedur…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/17 01:33 AM
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We could use fewer morbidly obese people in this country. If they get off on it, all the better.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/17 01:24 AM
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Why do feminists care what people do in their own bedrooms? Didn't they fight for LGBTQWFDSJ rights?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/17 01:22 AM
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Great, more government! /s In some ways, I can see how single payer with the option to purchase additional insurance (like in Canada) is more efficient than what we currently have. But I don't want to pay for someone with a BMI of 30+ to have gastric bypass surgery. Or for a liver transplant for a chronic alcoholic. Or, as I said before, IVF for a woman nearing 40 who knew what would happen if she didn't prioritize children. They knew the consequences, they should pay for them. Maybe women do ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/17 01:20 AM
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Healthcare coverage has gotten worse and more expensive for everyone but the poorest of the poor. How is that better? I'd rather pay full price for my birth control ($600 for 10 years of birth control with an IUD is not "substantial" in my book), then pay $110/month (technically $300 when including my employer portion) for a HDHP that covers nothing until I have $4k in health issues in a year. I am a healthy, young female. I am 100% fine with paying my fair share, but I shouldn't have to subsidi…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/17 01:05 AM
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I think it's sort of like ravers. Lots of fat girls wearing nothing but underwear, with their stomachs literally hanging out. I guess there were attractive panty ravers too...but a lot of them are fat. Also balloon pants? In what world are those attractive? I think it's cause they're mostly on drugs and just DGAF. Though I always liked looking pretty when I was rolling lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/17 12:51 AM
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see where I said "cluster B"...(think: bipolar, histronic, etc). Those are more common in women. But thanks. I don't need a lecture in biology, I've taken plenty of science courses in my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/17 12:25 AM
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Better women's healthcare would save the government a lot of money, for starters We already have free birth control, free pap smears and mammograms. What more do we need? Americans shouldn't have to pay for a woman's IVF treatments because they waited too long or their abortions because they "forgot" to take their pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/17 12:20 AM
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Remove personality disorders, particularly cluster B disorders which seem to occur predominantly in women. Or just removing the overly dramatic traits in women. I hate drama lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/17 12:11 AM
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Most men in lower classes probably couldn't care. UMC and upper class men definitely care. Even if they themselves don't specifically care, their family and social circle will care. Most men want someone who their parents approve of, particularly in the upper classes.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/17 09:29 AM
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Were they attractive? I'm guessing a lot of women who actually have to date down just can't secure comitment of someone in their own class.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/17 09:23 AM
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Women of upper middle class date middle class men I find most women raised UMC and above date other UMC+ men. I was raised firmly UMC/UC. My parents wouldn't want me marrying someone lower class than I am (as bad as that sounds). It's not just about money but also about values, intelligence, manners, ideas on child-rearing. My mom really encourages that I "date up" to an annoying degree. It's quite possible that women who have to date down slightly are simply too unattractive to find a husband i…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/17 09:19 AM
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Huh I recently moved to San Diego. I'm not a gold digger or poor, drug addicted, or obese. I've heard the gender ratio is pretty skewed, but have yet to really experience it. Just lots and lots of military. I guess that's not where you find loads of rich guys lol
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/17 09:03 AM
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Men in upper classes will date women of similar socioeconomic status. Men in LC/LMC/MC will be more forgiving on dating someone below them on the socioeconomic ladder. And I'm talking UMC/UC in terms of values more than actual income. A man who grew up LMC who is now making $150k (UMC income) would probably be less likely to care what socioeconomic status of a potential partner. Women always want to date up. Men have other reasons for wanting to date within their socioeconomic status.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/17 08:59 AM
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lol is this a serious question? of course they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/17 01:10 AM
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Adonis belt Meh. I had to look that up. I like guys that are muscular but aren't super low body fat. I said it the other day, but I think Tom Hardy is very attractive (kinda short...but you can't tell on screen). He's muscular, but built. I prefer that to the Brad Pitt in fight club look...which I think is too lean. Edit: I suppose someone with Tom Hardy's composition could also have an "adonis belt", but it's probably just dependent on their specific frame. Some people have to get down to very …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/17 12:20 AM
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Why do they hang out with women then?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/17 10:34 PM
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I think that chiseled abs are a thing guys find attractive, much more so than women. My boyfriend really wants to have visible abs. I'm like why? Better to look slightly bigger and muscular than be scrawny with visible abs.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/17 10:14 PM
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I think they're both normal. Maybe it depends on the generation. I think anal is much more common with younger people. I'm 23 so it seems pretty standard to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/17 08:48 PM
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Because anal is not sensitive enough?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/17 08:47 PM
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I don't think more than 10% of straight Americans have had anal sex. I think it's considerably higher than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/17 08:44 PM
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Huh I've never had a threesome, but I've done the others. I don't think all guys like facials and anal to the same extent. edit: err...not ATM. gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/17 08:42 PM
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You just happen to know which women are having sex at specific times (with specific types of people) and whether or not they enjoy it? What is with all the terpers claiming they are omniscient?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/17 07:58 PM
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I thought you once said you were married? How do you know all these women?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/17 07:51 PM
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Why do you say most men don't know how to have good sex? Just curious. They don't include enough foreplay or include the psychological aspects of turning a woman on. Don't just touch her boobs and makeout for 5 minutes and think that will be enough...it won't. Be flirty and allude to sex way before actually having sex. Make a woman excited. The psychological aspect is soooo important.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/17 07:49 PM
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LOL. All I can picture is you sniffing people. Many people are perceptive, it doesn't take a virgin-smelling nose to be perceptive. Take my internet senses for example, they're telling me that you're probably awkward AF.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/17 07:35 PM
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You literally said "I can smell a virgin". Wtf...how fucking weird can people get? I don't really care about the slut/virgin/n-count debate. But you can't smell a virgin vs non-virgin, I promise. There is no "virgin pheromone" that makes them smell different than non-virgins.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/17 06:59 PM
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I have a hard time imagining anyone being at their most kinkiest and adventurous with random hook-ups. Yeah this exactly. Casual sex is gonna be pretty vanilla, since it's a new person/new experience which is novel enough by itself. I'd argue that the majority of kink occurs in LTRs where people are comfortable with each other and want to try novel things without cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/17 05:43 PM
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I can smell a virgin Lol. That's approaching creep status.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/17 05:38 PM
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That man looks gay. And you really think he doesn't have a whole lot of grooming/makeup on? He probably spends 5x as long as I do getting ready in the morning. Even his hair is coiffed and styled with gel...you're not comparing apples to apples here.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/17 05:28 PM
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Maybe not, but she probably has a much better idea than you, a man, does. I am a woman and I 100% agree with her on this one...as do quite a few of our other female members.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/17 05:04 PM
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If only she could see outside her solipsism. You can't understand because you constantly base your arguments off of what you assume are women's opinions and preferences, despite NOT BEING A WOMAN. And then you argue with women (even women in agreement with RP principles, like myself) about what we think and feel. It's laughable. Do I try to tell you how you think and feel? NOPE. Atlas is 100% right on this one.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/17 06:15 AM
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Could you have picked a worse example of a VS model? Gigi hadid is only a model because she has rich and influential parents. Her face has always looked odd...though she does have a good body.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/17 06:10 AM
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LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/17 06:08 AM
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lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/17 05:14 AM
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OMG this 100%. Some terpers are way worse about this than others. Like how do they know what I, as a woman, prefer and/or experience? It really is astonishing how they can demonize female solipsism to such a degree while ignoring their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/17 04:42 AM
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Um what? No I don't. In social settings I'll talk to lots of guys that I'm not interested in. I don't think they're "creepy or weird", they're just not guys that I would date (plus I'm in an LTR). But when I'm at the grocery store after a day of working and going to the gym, it can be annoying when I just wanna buy something and leave. How did you infer that I think all guys are "creepy and weird"?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 06:46 PM
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The perpetual consideration and being the object of someone's appetite. I kinda like that though. Gives me an ego boost lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 05:48 PM
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Lol I used to go to warehouse raves when I was 15 and didn't fear any of those things. Feminists be crazy. And even now, in my regular day to day activities, I don't fear any of those things. It's not like it's the end of the world when some unattractive guy hits on me, or catcalls, or whatever. It's annoying more than anything, not something to be "fearful of". edit: it's also slightly awkward when guys you have no interest in try to hit on you, but thats about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 05:40 PM
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A high powered lawyer who doesn't want a relationship also isn't practical, but he sounds a hell of a lot more "alpha" (and attractive) than someone who can't hold down a job.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 05:34 PM
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Yeah but an "alpha" who can't hold down a job is not appealing. I want someone who can lead...that is an attractive trait. A man who can't even hold down a job cannot confidently lead.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 05:16 PM
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Ohhh...lol idk how I missed that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 05:11 PM
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How is Tom Hardy skinny fat? I think he's hot AF...especially for a hollywood actor. Edit: he is kinda short, but a few inches taller and he'd be a 10/10.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 05:43 AM
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I talk about serious things like politics on the first date, and if he is purposefully keeping things light, I immediately see he is trying to use 'game' and I next him. Sounds like a fun date...
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 05:37 AM
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A serious woman's alpha does. Not enough self control to hold a job Umm...are you a woman? Like for real, where are you coming up with this stuff?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 05:35 AM
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Dressing up primitive, stupid, violent, corrupt people like Westerners doesn't make them smarter and less corrupt any more than putting a silly pink Halloween costume on your dog makes it a princess. I am still not sure what your point is. I think you're veering off in a very unrelated direction. Class has less to do with how you dress and more to do with your values. A poor man who wins the lottery and buys a $5000 Armani suit doesn't give him UMC/UC values, just a nice suit.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/17 04:34 PM
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I have no idea who those people are. What is your point exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/17 06:13 AM
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Our school's chemical engineering curriculum didnt leave room for etiquette courses (though oddly it did leave room for 1 or 2 "diversity" courses lol). I can see why it's pretty necessary for business though.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/17 11:53 PM
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Starting salary for people in my graduating class was over $100k for those who chose to work in O&G. My boyfriend went to university for 4 years and still doesn't know proper etiquette in many situations. Those are things that are taught when you're a child, not when you're in university partying and studying. People develop their core habits and values when they are relatively young.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/17 11:33 PM
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There is. But growing up in a LC/LMC household where you weren't taught UMC/UC values doesn't suddenly change if you become an engineer and start making $150k. You still have the values of a LC/LMC person generally.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/17 11:10 PM
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in the US class is more about values than cash. Money doesn't buy class...despite what the terpers with their reported above average incomes want to believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/17 09:40 PM
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what would happen if your parents found out tomorrow their marriage is void on a technicality, what would change? Nothing would change. Like I said in two other comments already, I don't care if the marriage involves the government, it just needs to be a marriage. My parents are married. You cannot conflate a relationship with marriage. They have different meaning status-wise, legally, emotionally. People who are married are committed to working things out on a level that people in a relationshi…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/17 05:49 PM
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Yup, I agre 100%. I want to get married to start a family, so I guess I approach marriage from that aspect and not simply a "sharing of resources" aspect like many terpers.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/17 05:39 PM
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This is a damn good point. I honestly don't understand why TRP thinks that having a child out of wedlock will be more beneficial to them. Don't knock up a crazy female because you're afraid of divorce rape by a normal female.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/17 05:36 PM
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Sex alone is not worth money. But that is not what a marriage is. It is not simply an exchange of sex for companship. It provides a stable relationship to raise children. All you TRP men act like marriage is all about money. Sorry, but I don't need any man's money. I just don't. I do want a committed relationship with a man who wants to have children with me...hence marriage. Honestly a man would be lucky to marry a girl with a wealthy family. No I don't have a trust fund and yes I work for a li…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/17 05:11 PM
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Yes I understand. And I do agree with RP theory, especially concerning human nature. I don't really agree with their exaggeration of divorce rape. And maybe that's because it's predominantly lower class men on TRP, who do see all these cases of divorce rape, but I'm skeptical. I also just don't understand what type of woman is okay with non-marital cohabitation, presumably one who can't do any better...which leads me to believe that TRP isn't getting non-marital cohabitation from high quality wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/17 04:51 PM
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So you're basically resigned to saying "We're going to have a temporary and/or unhappy relationship". I don't want that. I don't think most women want that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/17 07:45 AM
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Temporarily.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/17 07:30 AM
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Where did I say anything about the government? I like how the automatic TRP assumption is divorce rape. It can be a legally privatized marriage, I don't really care. I generally argue against government interference, but the government proceedings for marriage are much cheaper, easier, and faster than having a lawyer draw up all the equivalent documents. But being someone's spouse (whether involving "govt interference" or not) is different than permanent non-marital cohabitation.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/17 07:18 AM
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Divorce still exists in the upper echelons of society just as it always has and men aren't treated any better. In much smaller quantities. [Divorce rates are significantly lower in higher income classes.] (https://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/data-mine/2015/10/26/marriage-and-the-growing-class-divide) Many UMC-upper class young adults are taught that kids out of wedlock are not okay and that divorce is low class. My dad could easily pay for a big fancy wedding (not that I'd want him to, nor would h…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/17 05:54 AM
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The main benefit is a high quality woman to bear him children. High quality women won't go along with having children outside of marriage. I'd say that's pretty damn important. Want smart children? Kind children? Properly raised, well mannered children? Well that will be highly dependent on the woman who bears your children. Access to a higher quality social circle. Men in upper echelons are married. Upper classes don't want to associate with someone's baby momma and his bastard children. Abilit…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/17 04:18 AM
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Heck, you can have a strong bond without even living together. I thought so too...then I moved in with my boyfriend. Not saying our bond wasn't strong before, but it is different, even if you try to tell yourself it isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/17 04:06 AM
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I can't read your paragraph after paragraph. Any man who would prefer to have a child out of wedlock rather than marry a properly vetted woman is one that I cannot relate to.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/17 04:03 AM
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So you'd rather have kids out of wedlock? That's pretty damn low class. I cannot relate.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/17 03:45 AM
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I don't care about big weddings. I'd be fine with basically no wedding, but I wouldn't be okay with permanent non-marital cohabitation. It has nothing to do with money. or their children by marrying you And how exactly does a man have children without a woman? It would be more risky to have a children prior to marriage, if anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/17 03:21 AM
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Yeah...traditional women would prioritize having children and would be devastated if they couldn't have them. A woman who prioritizes a DINK lifestyle isn't traditional.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/17 03:08 AM
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She gets disability from the government because they aren't married. Single moms get huge tax refunds, but a marriage might disqualify them I'd like to believe that these situations are not the norm. But maybe America is headed in that direction...unfortunate.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/17 02:52 AM
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Someone to share your life with. But if they don't want marriage, then do they really want to share their life?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/17 02:39 AM
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And that is why people don't have retirement savings.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/17 02:37 AM
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I think I'm a fairly male-brained female...but I just don't see what women get out of non-marital cohabitation.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/17 02:29 AM
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Do people really finance their phones? That's kind of ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/17 02:27 AM
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Why bother with the latter at all for anything other than casual sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/17 02:24 AM
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You'd think it would be obvious by her flair lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/17 01:28 AM
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I'm very smart and am also shy and almost socially awkward at times. The only reason I can get away with being shy is because I am attractive and people seek out interactions with me. Being smart doesn't make me think of ways to improve my social skills...I don't agree with your theory.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/17 10:56 PM
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Intelligence and attractiveness are actually positively correlated, so it's not uncommon that smart people are also attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/17 10:51 PM
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Yup. I've had the exact same experience. Being smart has it's advantages, but it doesn't make you socially successful. Being attractive makes people want to hang out with you, to give you opportunities that you wouldn't otherwise have. You can get away with things and people just kind of ignore it because you're an attractive female. Being a smart female doesn't do any of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/17 09:25 PM
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Her belly literally hangs out. She doesn't have a very good WHR (she basically doesn't have a defined waist at all). That's just my opinion, you can feel free to have your own.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/17 09:19 PM
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I had a roommate like that. She probably hooked up with 50+ people last year. One night she even had one guy come over 30 minutes after a different one left. Gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/17 06:53 AM
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6 looks fat. I find it hard to believe that men really prefer that body type.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/17 06:48 AM
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men with the proper habits when it comes to their health and taking care of themselves will hold high value well into their 60s or 70s. LOL.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/17 06:40 AM
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My point is that the child will have better living condition if he/she stays with higher earning parent. Not if the higher earning parent is never around. My mom was a SAHM and my dad was always working. He went on lots of business trips and even had houses in other states. He made a ton of money, but he did not know how to raise children, especially two girls. He didn't cook or clean or teach us to read or take us to sports. He is a great dad. Luckily my parents are still together, but if they …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/17 06:27 AM
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What about the child? The other parent? There is more to custody than money. Your argument makes it seem like custody is all about money, it's not. It's probably not in the best interests of the child to live at a parents house simply because they make more money, especially if that parent is never there. As for money going "directly to the child"..if a parent was abusing child support payments, they could have custody taken away from them. Also child support is different than alimony, in case y…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/17 06:00 AM
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So joint custody?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/17 05:40 AM
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The higher earner probably works more hours and doesn't have time to take care of the children. Think of a heart surgeon and a schoolteacher...yeah the surgeon will have way more money, but he's gonna need a full time nanny to watch the kids, take them to school, etc etc etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/17 05:21 AM
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Yes. Your brain adjusts to the amount of dopamine present by down-regulating dopamine receptors. It is not an infinite high.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/17 04:18 AM
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I hate tumblr.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/17 04:31 PM
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It would be interesting to know what everyone's gender is in this thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/17 06:39 AM
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Women don't give a shit about politics, especially things that don't have obvious affects on their or their family's lives. Women can absolutely have political beliefs...what is this bullshit? I could just as easily argue that men don't give a shit about political beliefs...because that has been my experience with men. But I'm self aware enough to realize that my experience is not universal. I've cared way more about politics than either of my long term boyfriends. And was wayyyy more informed a…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/17 06:35 AM
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No. I could never date a liberal man. They just seem illogical and weak. Also I couldn't deal with the entitlement mindset.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/17 06:25 AM
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Yes. They have to be taller than I am. I'm 5'9".
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/17 08:34 PM
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What? Use birth control until you are married and ready to have a baby. Not that complicated.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/17 08:01 PM
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Can't ultra high IQ people find other ultra high IQ people and form relationships with them? If you're in the top one percentile of IQ, that mean 1 out of every 100 people is as smart as you. That lowers your dating pool significantly. Then add in attraction. Do you want to be attracted to the person you are dating? Probably. Do you want to have similar life goals (children, marriage, traveling)? That's necessary for a successful relationship. Careers can be boring. Yeah I have a high paying job…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/17 07:50 PM
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Also IQ is around 40-60% hereditary as far as we know atm. No, it's significantly higher...closer to an 0.8 correlation in adult children. Only stupid people would argue that IQ isn't largely hereditary.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/17 07:43 AM
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Get married first.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/17 07:24 AM
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Would they be able to afford an abortion if they had money? Abortion is a hell of a lot cheaper than a child. If someone can't afford the $500 for an abortion pill, how can they possibly afford to raise a child? and/or are they making shitty life choices because they're parents didn't raise them well enough? why does it matter why? IQ is hereditary anyways. Children raised "not well enough" will probably not raise their children very well...and the cycle continues.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/17 07:21 AM
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I like to think that those traits balance each other out lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/17 06:59 AM
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Mensa standards aren't that exceptionally high. Honestly I don't get the point of Mensa. Seems to be people looking for bragging points more than anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/17 05:29 AM
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What do you mean by that? Have you had a bad life? (One psychologist said that IQ overwhelmingly predicts how wealthy you'll be. By age 40, he says that someone born into the top one percent IQ-wise will have financially surpassed someone born into a family that's in the top one percent wealth-wise.) IQ and wealth are absolutely correlated. But life isn't all about money. Ultra high IQ people are more likely to be self destructive. They can have trouble relating to others which can make it harde…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/17 05:26 AM
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If a woman says, "I really want to have a child, I don't care if it's with you or anyone else" and the man still goes through with it, then the man is an idiot and should be held responsible. But I'm guessing that isn't a common occurrence.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/17 09:29 PM
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I'm pretty sure there's this common feminist motto that goes something like "MY BODY, MY CHOICE!". If women want complete autonomy over their bodies, then they need to take responsibility for the repurcussions. It's a woman's choice to use her birth control correctly. It's a woman's choice to abort or adopt. You act like its 1850 and we lack modern medicine. In the reverse situation where a woman wants to abort, but the man doesn't want her to, the woman still gets to decide. Her body, her choic…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/17 09:08 PM
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It's not that bad. I've had it done twice. Once at 20 and again at 22...also never been pregnant. I read so many online reports that freaked me out unnecessarily. Getting a Paragard was the best thing. I never have to think about it and I don't get any side effects. I think one minute of discomfort is worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/17 08:27 PM
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But women have complete authority over whether to have a child. Men don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/17 08:20 PM
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dead beat dad took off and left his family high and dry it's the woman's fault for her circumstances? Did the woman have the child out of wedlock? If he wouldn't commit to her without children, what makes her think he'll commit when she makes the choice to have his child?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/17 06:44 PM
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Probably because most of the new threads have been low quality.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/17 06:30 PM
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Yes. A fat person is going to have 1) more fat reserves that their body can access in times of low calorie intake and 2) a higher basal metabolic rate. A 300 lb male will require almost 900 calories more per day than a 180 lb male of the same stature (3549 cal vs 2683 cal). Source. And would require 1600 calories more than a 5'9" 130 lb woman. My caloric needs are around 1900 cal per day. So cutting out 1000 would be a 52% cut. For a 180 lb male, it would only be a 37% deficit, while for the 300…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/17 06:55 PM
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Also a 1k calorie deficit isn't really painful. Lol. It depends on how fat you are to start with. My bmi is just under 20 and even a 300 cal deficit is hard. It isn't "physically" hard... I could eat less, I'd just be very irritable and grouchy. I said this the other day, that I think intermittent fasting is more difficult for women than men due to differing hormones (at least that's my theory). It's no excuse for women to be overweight, I just think a 1000 cal deficit is unrealistic for someone…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/17 06:22 PM
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I'm pretty sure that most men feel attraction to 18-22 year old girls. And many men don't get laid in college, yet this is the first time I've ever heard someone say they haven't "satisfied their need for young girls". Its weird. You say nothing about satisfying your need for new experiences, friendships, or romantic relationships (even just a casual one). Also I'm guessing that you're fixating on the attractive 18-22 year-old girls - and not the average/below average ones. An attractive 20 year…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/17 05:45 PM
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I missed out on a fundamental experience that will no doubt cripple you for the rest of your life. No it won't. Everyone misses out on some things. I missed out on all the crazy partying that goes on during freshman year of college because I had a super controlling ex-boyfriend. And I acknowledge that people got to experience things that I didn't during their freshman year, but I don't want to replicate that. Life is what you make of it. I missed out on many parties during college because I had …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/17 10:58 PM
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See that's the trouble I'd really like to satisfy the young 18-22 set who showed interest in me when I was a young man Honestly that just comes off really weird...like you've been reading the TRP sub too much where they emphasize "18-22 year-old girls" as being the ideal. And maybe they are, but it sounds like you are taking that too literally. You don't know the age of every girl in a club. The one that looks 22 might be 30 and the one that looks 25 might be 21. Yeah women age, but some age bet…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/17 10:38 PM
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So, that would imply that there's likely a lot more casual sex going on than women are admitting to. See this idea is why I asked this question...and also why I asked it specifically to women. Girls will admit to their close friends when they are having casual sex. That's actually a common way that women bond. Obviously women aren't going to readily tell men about all the casual sex they have, but they will tell their close friends. The numbers in this thread are significantly lower than TRP lik…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/17 09:11 PM
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I am confused how you know all of this as a male. Of course no female is going to start talking about her casual sex with male friends. Girls act differently with their girl friends. I lived with 5 girls in college and we had lots of friends come over. None of us were particularly slutty, except for one of my roommates. There were a few who would have a FWB or use tinder to hookup...and they would readily admit it. Girls bond by sharing secrets. I definitely started getting grossed out when my r…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/17 09:06 PM
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FWB usually don't tell their friends. Are you a female? Because I've had the exact opposite experience. Women who are into casual sex are all too keen to tell their friends about their FWB. Also it's pretty obvious when your roommate has random guys over or when a friend leaves a bar with a guy she just met.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/17 11:36 AM
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I guess I said "average" because I didn't want people focusing on outliers. The evangelical girl who is saving herself for marriage is not average, she's an outlier. Similarly, the girl with an n count of 100 is an outlier. TRP likes to focus on the latter and act like that is what most women are like. Edit: also I was assuming that people answering this question would all have diverse and different friend groups/perspectives to account for differences between the white girl in Manhattan and the…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/17 07:20 PM
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Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/17 10:41 PM
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Yeah...that's my point. TRP has its followers convinced that women are constantly banging random guys, which just isn't true.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/17 10:40 PM
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Yeah, some people are serial monogamists, but it isn't the norm. You're basing your views on outliers, rather than average girls. I just graduated college and in my time there, most girls I knew were neither serial monogamists and/or having frequent casual sex. Many of them were in LTRs of significant length (anywhere from 6 months-4 years). Some would start dating a guy and things would fizzle out...which is fine, people can decide that they aren't right for each other. Many of the single ones …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/17 10:06 PM
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Being a 23 year-old girl, I have lots of single girl friends. There are a couple who do have frequent casual sex and FWB, but the vast majority do not. Like I said, most women don't want no-strings-attached sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/17 12:43 AM
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I meant in age...as in "date up in age", not SMV/RMV.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 09:18 PM
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I never said we were equal lol. I'll readily acknowledge the significant biological differences between men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 07:03 PM
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Oh I think I responded to the wrong comment. But I agree. Lots of men in late 20s want to get married, so there's either something wrong with her or her expectations are too high.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 07:00 PM
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Relationship market value (also sometimes called MMV - marriage market value). It's like SMV but for a relationship. It takes into account qualities that wouldn't matter for casual sex, but would matter in the context of an LTR.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 06:58 PM
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Dating someone older? That's not necessarily hypergamy. She could date someone of lesser SMV/RMV (i.e. not hypergamy) who is older than she. If a woman wants to get married by 23, she's going to have a hard time finding a man who also wants to get married that young.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 06:53 PM
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Lol yeah...he's not overweight in the slightest though, so it's not really that big of an issue. I've tried explaining insulin and fat storage and all that...but it's hard to change the low-fat mindset, especially when it's so prevalent.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 06:50 PM
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Do you eat vegetables? Or at least get good sources of fiber? It's hard to lose weight if you don't get enough protein. Sounds like your diet needs a revamp.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 06:46 PM
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I think that intermittent fasting works better for men, for whatever reason. I can't go all day without eating or I get cranky and can't focus. I could certainly go all day without eating, I would just be unpleasant and not get anything done. I'm guessing it has something to do with hormones, though that's just a theory Or maybe IM is just harder for people who don't have any extra weight. Either way, intermittent fasting isn't for everyone. Can't argue with weight lifting though.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 06:43 PM
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Low carb is seriously the way to go. From a biological and hormonal standpoint, it makes the most sense. I wish more people understood that. My BF was trying to eat healthier. What he considers healthy is low-fat, while what I consider healthy is low-carb. Makes buying groceries fun...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 06:36 PM
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I have everything down except the body. This is what men look for though...they don't care about how much you make, they want an attractive partner. If you aren't getting approached by men who meet your standards, improve your appearance. I lost 30 lbs when I was 14 and never had trouble keeping it off since then. So it's 100% doable, you just have to commit to losing weight. It was probably the best thing I ever did for my appearance and self-esteem. My younger sister weighs 50 lbs more than I …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 06:23 PM
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She doesn't even have to be fat, she could just be unattractive. Her criteria for a suitable partner aren't that difficult to find.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 06:19 PM
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She doesn't have to marry another 23 year-old. It's usually beneficial for women to date up in age. Edit: date up in age, not SMV/RMV
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 06:18 PM
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Ew no.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 09:45 AM
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Lots of women (if not most) want relationships, not casual sex. Just because they can get sex almost immediately, doesn't mean they do. Edit: formatting
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 09:43 AM
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Anyway, there was also an SMV calculator for women, and for IQ it gives you the maximum number of points if your IQ is between 120-130 or something, but it said to DEDUCT a point if your IQ was over 130 (or something like that). I think that is a totally valid assumption. I might even lower the IQ at which women's SMV drops, say around 120-125, with it dropping a greater amount, the higher the IQ. Or maybe just RMV would drop...idk I certainly think it seems valid.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 09:39 AM
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After reading so much TRP, I have come to the conclusion that it is for targeting the average woman (often used by the average man)...at least intelligence-wise. I have trouble "sunmitting" to my boyfriend because sometimes he's wrong...not "we got into a fight and he's wrong", but his facts or assumptions are wrong. I want to have confidence in his judgement and that's sometimes hard to do when he's objectively wrong. I think relationships for smart women are more difficult, unfortunately.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 09:24 AM
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This test is way too subjective to give any real information. It's entirely dependant on the type of women you are surrounded by (I.e. If everyone in your family is very nurturing, you will assume that being "very nurturing" is average...and vice versa).
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 11:42 PM
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Yes it does. Women still have a choice if they become "accidentally" pregnant. I am a young fertile woman and if I were to accidentally become pregnant, I would have an abortion. If that were "not an option", I would give my baby up for adoption. I am not married, I don't want to be a single mother...or raise a child in a single parent household. As for "mixing up" pills and what not...there are long term forms of birth control available (IUDs) which last 5-10 years. So these "accidents" are pro…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 05:34 PM
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what does adoption have to do with this? who adopts anyway realistically? People who don't want to be single mothers. Lots of people would love to adopt a US-born baby...it's usually preferential to foreign adoption.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 08:55 PM
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Woah...I think that you're making a lot of incorrect assumptions about me. I agree with most RP ideas, just disagree with many of the newer users and their implimentation. All I was arguing is that average males can get with average females via relationships. If they don't want to, that's their prerogative. It's just somewhat unrealistic to expect average Harry to have casual sex with all sorts of women. That can be his goal, sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 08:53 PM
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Social, well-adjusted guys who do everything by the book. These guys are in relationships. No, they might not be getting all the casual sex that they want, but they can get sex. You're not usually like that. You're not that kind of girl. I haven't been single for any significant amount of time since I was 15, so this really doesn't apply. They're called RELATIONSHIPS. TRP focuses way too much on casual sex, which a lot girls aren't interested in.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 05:19 AM
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Yeah...but what about in relationships? I like both parties to enjoy sex. And it's more enjoyable without a condom. (This does not apply to casual sex...in which case, a condom should would be mandatory)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 05:16 AM
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Neither are good. I think it's ridiculous when men in the TRP sub mention wanting to raise a child alone...but I've also never heard of a single one of them actually doing it. Children need both a mother and a father. Not just one or the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/17 05:55 AM
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Those are options available to women who accidentally become pregnant (i.e. it can be stopped). It's kinda pointless to blame a lack of male birth control when women aren't using the resources currently available to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/17 09:19 PM
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Middle and upper classes also exert more social pressure to prevent single parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/17 09:18 PM
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ಠ_ಠ
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/17 09:14 PM
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Parents of single mothers are a source of the problem as well. There are too many grandparents stepping in to help out making both fathers and mothers make ends meet. Yes this. My parents would NEVER in a million years let me be a single mother. My mom is technically religious, but damn...I know she'd rather see me get an abortion than be a single mother. I think this is a rather common sentiment felt among UMC/upper class households.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/17 09:11 PM
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This is dumb. I'm quite thin and I don't put on muscle easily. I am tall and have skinny legs. When I lift weights, I don't gain as much muscle as other females with naturally muscular builds. I still LIFT though, because I gain some muscle. Genetics says it will be harder for me to have muscular quads and a big butt, it doesn't say that it is impossible for me to have more muscular quads and a bigger butt than I currently have. And I don't have to be more muscular than other women for it to hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/17 09:04 PM
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The stuff TRP writes about "the wall" freaks me out. I feel the same way.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/17 08:47 PM
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He doesn't know how to make romance happen. He doesn't know how to make "chemistry" happen, unless it's in the context of moles and Avogadro's number. This literally makes me think all guys who don't understand social interactions are the nerdiest nerds. I majored in pretty nerdy subjects and most people still had some social skills. I am very analytical and I still don't think of social interactions as: do X, get Y in return. It doesn't work like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/17 08:32 PM
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I'm not particularly good at time management. I just don't think the two are mutually exclusive. I know quite a few people in college who could manage socializing and excelling in school. Sure, it might be easier to just focus on one or the other, but both are important.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/17 08:30 PM
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I took almost all the AP classes that my school offered...I think it totaled 12 by the time graduated. I definitely know the AP bubble you are talking about. I guess I just hung out with other kids, as I definitely didn't fit into the AP bubble. My best friends and I went to parties and raves and did lots of drinking/drugs. School was an afterthought. I never got a C though. That kinda changed in college. I had to stop partying and learn to study. My parents were the opposite of helicopter paren…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/17 08:20 PM
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What social status do incels have? Serious question...
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/17 06:29 AM
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We weren't bumming around getting drunk and smoking pot at highschool parties, we were busy doing well in our academics and contributing to our communities. I did both. But then I am a female. Why would they be mutually exclusive?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/17 06:27 AM
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I'm ISTP and I agree with red pill on many topics. I'm absolutely not a bleeding heart liberal, quite the opposite. More on the libertarian side of things. I think a better question would be: do redpillers tend to be xxTx while bluepillers are xxFx?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/17 10:29 AM
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I know it happens all the time. Anyway, I don't know what goes into a mindset like that. What could it be? Not me. I like giving blowjobs and pleasing my partner. It's not tit-for-tat when it comes to sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/17 10:24 AM
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Oh god. I just moved out of my college apartment. I lived with this girl for nearly 4 years. We were great friends for a while, until she became a trashy, raging slut. I don't know her total n-count, but I do know that she slept with 30+ guys in less than 12 months. And she was not attractive. Really short hair, lots of black makeup, very alternative style, brash. I could not figure out what guys found attractive about her, tbh. I guess she wasn't fat? She was actually quite decent looking when …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/17 10:05 AM
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Right to not have your genitals hacked at when you're born There are medical reasons for this. It isn't some conspiracy to mutilate men for no reason. Many men even have circumcision performed later in life due to negative side effects of not being circumcised at birth.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/17 09:56 AM
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Yup me too. I took cotillion courses, which were for boys and girls. It's not sexist to learn proper etiquette.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/17 08:22 PM
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I suppose it seems old fashioned, but there are lots of parents who continue to send their children to them. For UMC and upper class parents, it's important that their kids know proper etiquette for important events.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/17 08:20 PM
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Arguments don't work that way. "Sources don't matter, only my feelings" -/u/nechama
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/17 08:14 PM
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Isn't that basically what cotillion is? I went to private school growing up and around 6th or 7th grade, there was a "junior cotillion" which basically taught etiquette, how to interact with the opposite sex, and some basic ballroom dances. It was not associated with school, so parents chose (and paid) to send their children to it. Oh and it was for males and females. I think it's kind of ridiculous that people are outraged over an etiquette course. Things like this happen all across America eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/17 07:06 AM
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Lol okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/17 05:32 AM
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If you are RP and you want to have ONS with women, then yeah, you probably have to be stoic. I am a female and I am not into ONS. But my friends who are into that lifestyle are much less inclined to put up with male emotions. But all women are different. I have been with my BF for 3 years and I don't expect that he be stoic all the time. I understand that he has emotions...and I wouldn't expect otherwise. But if he was super emotional all the time, then I'd probably be turned off. I am not a fem…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/17 10:42 AM
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you'd need more women in engineering if they did. Women have less interest in engineering. Nobody is forcing them out of engineering. In the US, there are feminist groups that encourage girls to go into STEM. It doesn't make a difference. Many females are not interested in engineering. Clearly using this to support your theory doesn't work. I tried explaining to you several times that math doesn't work this way but you don't get it. Because you've done a horrible job of making your point. Be mor…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/17 10:32 AM
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Don't play dumb. See the source that I linked? They literally show that the differences are true. Here is the source again, though I doubt that you'll read anything that doesn't agree with your world view. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4270278/ edit: a word.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/17 01:15 AM
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No you didn't. You said If the differences in the distribution held true, and excelling in spatial reasoning was the only quality necessary for representation in engineering (which is an absolutely ridiculous assumption to make) you'd have a much larger representation of women. Let's break down your argument. First, I never, ever said that "excelling in spatial reasoning was the only quality necessary for representation in engineering", so you're starting off with a straw man. Motivation, intere…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/17 12:47 PM
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No it doesn't, but reading comprehension might improve yours. But it appears that you prefer to simply reply with generic SJW comments on gender equality, as they don't require much critical thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/17 12:17 PM
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Terpers aren't exactly informed ethical people. I'm not even a terper. I'm a FEMALE. FFS...I'm also a FEMALE engineer and I still don't really care about female representation in stem. You have no rational arguments as far as I can tell.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/17 11:58 AM
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No, the average doesn't matter. Averages don't work in the way you'd like them to. They actually work in a very predefined way, formally known as the normal/gaussian distribution. It has nothing to do with what "I'd like" and everything to do with the actual math (statistics). Clearly you are not a scientist, as any decent scientist would have at least some very basic understanding of statistics. they are way past the US in a few issues pertaining to gender equality. Among them representation in…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/17 11:21 AM
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Lol okay. I am a female. You seem to think I'm a male? I'm not. I have 0 chips, I just have alternative viewpoints - which are actually backed up by science - unlike yours. I doubt your claim. I don't know which "claim" you are doubting. I do not have anything against females obviously, but I do not deny the biological differences between the sexes. It doesn't matter that men, on average, do better in spatial reasoning Actually it does. There are women who have the spatial reasoning to excel in …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/17 03:55 AM
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What smugness? I am a female and I am literally arguing that females have inferior visual spatial abilities and that we are lazier on average. I don't think that's being smug. Also don't fucking link an abstract that is paywalled for the full paper and get mad at me for not having the full paper. I linked to the full paper in my second comment. I didn't know it was behind a paywall, I had access... That doesnt seem to be backed up by the summary of multiple studies you linked. Wrong. Studies com…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/17 01:17 PM
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And I also doubt your third. You speak like someone who hasn't been trained in engineering. Right. Throw an ad hominem in there to support your argument, because that's helpful. I actually work as a chemical engineer and I graduated with a BS in chemical engineering and minor in CS. It's pure cultural association. Prove it? You have 0 sources so far. Your second claim is also bunk. You need a heck of a lot more than spatial reasoning, which women are just fine at. Men, on average, do have better…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/17 01:06 PM
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It's pretty well proven that testosterone and visual spatial ability are related. I went through and read the entire studies, since you did not seem to. The first link w/ full text:Testosterone levels and spatial ability in men. Mental rotations scores showed a significant positive relationship with mean T levels I think this is pretty self explanatory. Higher mean T levels correlate with higher visual spatial reasoning. but not with changes in T. This is referring to changes in testosterone thr…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/17 12:42 PM
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Yeah, I experience the same thing, but I'm still in control of my mind and most of my body. I never said otherwise. I can be more emotional and still in control. Just because I have the potential to be more emotional for 1 week out of each month in no way means I am forced to actually be more emotional. Good for you. I don't take hormonal birth control so I notice my hormonal fluctuations to a greater extent than most millenial women (as they primarily use hormonal BC). So if you are on hormonal…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/17 11:45 AM
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Competency. People like to do what they are naturally good at. Men have an advantage in visual spatial cognitive abilities and perform better in math and science (source). These are very important for high level math, and hence, engineering. What exact hormone or neurological feature is responsible for drawing one to STEM? Testosterone. A couple sources here and here.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/17 10:10 PM
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No. Iran doesn't offer the countless generic humanities degrees that the US does. Engineering is one of the few options they have, so they take it. Engineering isn't "male", it's male dominated because of biology. On average, men have superior visual spatial abilities (critical for high level math and engineering) than women. You can argue whether it's good or bad, but it doesn't matter, because nothing can really change that. And I say all of this as a female engineer.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/17 10:01 PM
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My mom totally fits the "most responsible teenager in the house" description. She was a high powered lawyer at one point. But she'll still occasionally overreact to perceived slights, get mad over stupid stuff and pout. She's a very intelligent woman, but she's still a woman and generally more emotional than a man (which apparently equates to child status now).
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/17 09:51 PM
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Most women can't change that. It's called biology. Hormones are powerful and have far ranging effects on mental stability, emotions, motivations. I am wayyy more emotional at certain times of the month because of hormones. No amount of social activism will ever change that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/17 09:48 PM
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I believe that, on average, women are less rational than men. That's why fewer women study hard sciences and why they tend to be more emotional. I don't believe that being less rational makes women altogether inferior. Men and women have different strong suites. Men, on average, will be better at certain things (high level math, visual spatial abilities). While women, on average, will be better at others (verbal reasoning, social cues). Why is this so hard to comprehend? Emotion and rationality …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/17 12:01 PM
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To find out if this woman is a unicorn or not. Exactly how is she a unicorn? Because she realized something that is quite obvious to most people (who aren't lying to themselves)? The title is kind of insulting and it's also a stupid question. Both men and women lack self awareness and it's silly to think otherwise. Look at incels and their whole "woe is me" attitude. They don't realize that if they would just work on themselves, accept that they'll never get a beautiful 18 year-old virgin, and t…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/17 01:21 PM
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I'll opt for the dude or gal who'd wanna have a conversation with me about theory of mind over Channing Tatum, no matter how cute he might look in his sailor suit. Me too!! And most of the men on here can't seem to understand this.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/17 01:15 PM
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I don't really care about who makes more money, that was just an example that other intelligent women might care about. However I do highly value intelligence in a partner. It's one of the most important traits (probably the most important, along with personability) for me. I know that I have trouble respecting a partner who is less intelligent than myself. I also know that if I didn't respect my partner, we would have trouble being in a relationship. So I date accordingly. My boyfriend of 3 yea…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/17 11:49 PM
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I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or genuine. I guess I sound pretty full of myself in that comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/17 11:26 PM
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What if I said I respect you for your beauty and motherliness and not for your intellect and other achievements? Smart men want to marry smart, pretty women. I know one of the RP tenets is that intelligence and career achievements don't matter to men. And for a ONS or casual sex, they don't. But for an LTR or marriage, men don't want an bimbo. So maybe you don't respect women for their intellect, but many smart men looking for a wife do. Children's IQ is more heavily influenced by the mother's I…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/17 11:08 AM
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More intelligent women tend to end up wanting to utilize their intelligence I disagree with OP on this stance too. I'm intelligent, but my job is just a job. It pays well and it's interesting, but I don't particularly want to be a "career woman". And there are many highly intelligent people who are not successful/career oriented. High IQ people are also more prone to self-destructive behaviors. I think the OP has some very simplistic views of high intelligence that don't necessarily correlate wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/17 10:58 AM
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the smartest women I have known have not been traditionally attractive Intelligence and attractiveness have a positive correlation. Apparently your experiences are different, but that isn't true for the rest of the population. The few female grad students in my chemical engineering department were attractive, some exceptionally so. You can't be in the top 1-5% intelligence-wise, without putting in genuine effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/17 10:37 AM
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Like what? I honestly think most men want a hot, sexually adventurous, low-maintenance girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/17 10:29 AM
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I'm an "intelligent women". I score in the top percentile on standardized tests and IQ tests. I am also attractive. I would honestly rather be complemented on my beauty/appearance than my intelligence. I don't think "beauty and mothering ability is beneath me". I love being attractive and I really want a family one day. Being intelligent doesn't mean I want to be a career woman. I think that dating is difficult for highly intelligent women for a number of reasons. The main one being hypergamy. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/17 10:17 AM
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I don't know where I ever said I was smarter than him. More knowledgeable? Probably. But that's different than actual intelligence. Anyways intelligence is very important to me because I have trouble respectinf a man who is significantly less intelligent than myself. Which is one reason why I liked my boyfriend so much - he's smart.
/r/RedPillWives26/02/17 09:57 PM
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What do you mean by this? He basically wants to do something that is a sure bet because his family has already done it. There are other good investments that aren't presented to him on a golden platter. My dad has suggested a few. It bothers me that he can't take the initiative to research other investment ideas that would offer better returns. I never said I was being ambitious. Yeah it's a regular job, but it makes good money and I like it well enough. I don't particularly want to be a career …
/r/RedPillWives26/02/17 09:44 PM
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This is a major concern if I were to break up with him. I stuck it out in a terrible, 4 year relationship because I thought I couldn't do better. I don't think I hold my worth too high. Can there not be some merit to the things I take issue with?
/r/RedPillWives26/02/17 09:36 PM
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My mother basically reiterated things that I had thought to myself (but not said). I wasn't swayed by her, she just reinforced my concerns.
/r/RedPillWives26/02/17 09:30 PM
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Yes I get the whole "work smarter, not harder". I do the same thing. He's lazy in the sense that he just wants to do whatever is presented to him - rather than figure out what he actually wants to do. i said it in a few comments, but a more apt description might be that he lacks ambition. I would also avoid the mentality of you could do better unless he's actually not satisfying your needs and requirements. He's not satisfying my "drive/motivation" requirement. I am not overly judgemental. I wan…
/r/RedPillWives26/02/17 09:28 PM
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Is your relationship a long distance one? No. We see each other every day. We sleep at each other's houses every night and spend a considerable amount of time together. It sounds like this is just a rebound relationship with an orbiter. He wasn't a rebound. I actually broke up with my ex-boyfriend (which was a bad and incompatible relationship) for him. I am pretty introverted and do not have orbiters (no social media, not any male friends who aren't also friends of my BF). I only knew he had a …
/r/RedPillWives26/02/17 09:21 PM
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I am being unsentimental. Yes, I love my boyfriend, but that doesn't mean that I can't still think about this logically rather than emotionally. Do you want him to make a lot of money? He actually has the option to make a considerable of money by taking family money and investing it in an option that his family has presented to him. It's not bad. It's just not ambitious. I do think that I can be a bit hard on him and that maybe he will decide to invest and eventually do something more ambitious.…
/r/RedPillWives26/02/17 09:10 PM
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When you're properly in love you feel like you've won the lottery. This sounds like be honeymoon phase. And I have felt that way. I am not sure how a deadbedroom is relevant as we have a very healthy sex life. I enjoy and want sex just as much as he does. He isn't lazy is all aspects of life. In fact, he spends a lot of time on things he is passionate about, even when they aren't enjoyable (he's into car sports which require a lot of DIY maintenance). But he seems lazy when it comes to finding s…
/r/RedPillWives26/02/17 08:56 PM
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If the only reason you want to break up is to see if you can do better you will be very disappointed. This is not why. Maybe I didn't articulate it correctly. There ARE things that concern me about my boyfriend. Mainly he seems kind of "lost" and not very motivated lately. He wants to take family money to invest in something that his family has suggested (which isn't terrible, it's just not very ambitious). He's very lucky to have this option, but it still seems like he is only taking it because…
/r/RedPillWives26/02/17 08:46 PM
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Why do you want a man who is taller than you? It's called attraction. Why do you want a skinny girl with big tits? For young white men, yes. Not for the other races in the US. You white? Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/17 08:34 PM
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There's a middle ground. Men who are "good" and look out for the interests of their girlfriends/wives, but still stand up for themselves, aren't weak and/or effeminate, and don't let their wives boss them around. RP likes to focus on extremes. I don't want either extreme. I don't want the bad boy who doesn't give a shit about me and I don't want the weak man who can't do anything for himself. I'm guessing that most women also like the middle option.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/17 08:24 PM
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Well I'm 5'9" and so I want a man who is taller than I am. Since men like to exaggerate their height (i.e. a man who is actually 5'10" will say he is 5'11"), I want a man who is "5'11"". Average height of men in the US is 5'10" so it's basically average. Not 9/10. Try again. What other things are those that you seek for in a ONS from a guy? I don't have ONS, I have relationships. I have never had a ONS. Because the less attractive guy would be easier to control? I honestly don't know how you com…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/17 08:18 PM
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It is OTC in Canada. There is a pretty easy extraction method on remove the acetaminophen as well. I may have done this a few times in high school...lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/17 03:38 AM
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A country could have high GDP and have people be absolutely starving. Because a country full of low IQ people will be relatively incompetent despite the huge advantage that their oil resources provide. In fact, many oil-rich countries in the middle east have to hire migrant workers because they can not do the engineering work themselves. Anyways...you haven't made a convincing counter argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/17 03:36 AM
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Sadly, "I think" is not a very good argument. But it makes sense that smarter people are in higher socioeconomic classes since smarter people earn more money on average. (See here). High-paying jobs are often associated with above average intelligence (i-bankers, doctors, engineers). So it is somewhat circular...intelligent people make more money and can then pass their high intelligence and their socioeconomic status on to their children. But to counter your argument that socioeconomic class is…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/17 02:52 AM
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Public schools start issuing standardized tests to students from a young age (like 1st grade). 1st graders aren't taking prep classes, neither are 8th graders. Yet there is still a significant race gap in test scores.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/17 02:27 AM
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No. It is nowhere close to a 9/10. A man who is 5'11"+, not fat or super skinny, and has a decent face meets the "looks threshold" for me personally. I care more about other things than looks. I've said it before, but I'll say it again: I'd rather have a less attractive, intelligent guy than a super attractive, dumb guy. Provided the less attractive guy still meets the "looks threshold".
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/17 02:07 AM
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IQ tests have been revised many, many times to account for that. African countries still score significantly lower. And compare the average score of white american students to black american students: the white students still score a whole standard deviation higher. You can't blame that on not knowing how to take a test, because students get the same education in the same country with the same public education system.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/17 02:03 AM
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Lol ok. They do use IQ tests when hiring. The employer may not label them explicitly as an "IQ test",but they test the same things as an IQ test: visual spatial reasoning, reading comprehension, mathematic ability. I've had to complete them a few times when applying for engineering jobs. A quick google search pulls up a few links: [1] (https://www.hiresuccess.com/blog/is-employment-testing-legal), [2] (https://www.onetcenter.org/dl_files/empTestAsse.pdf). IQ is not a protected class, so as long …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/17 01:59 AM
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It has great ability to help unattractive men. Yeah, slightly unattractive men. RP was intended for betas, not omegas. If RP has such a "great ability" to help unattractive men, why are there so many incel posts on this sub? I just don't think you understand the point I am making - and I don't know why.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/17 12:10 PM
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What so as a 13 year old you couldn't just go out with your friends and had to rely on your mum to arrange your social life? What? No. My mom was actually the opposite of a helicopter parent and I ended up going to raves at 15 and doing lots and lots of drugs before I even graduated high school. But that is besides the point. I lived in a huge, spread out city and I went to private school. Before I could DRIVE, which is necessary is a big city, my mom had to take me to school, sports practice, e…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/17 11:54 AM
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You discount abundance mentality, all of stoicism and it's role in RP. No I am not. Where did I ever say that? I said: If the man is below the [looks] threshold, I will not date him. If you're a short, indian man, abundance mentality will be pretty futile. If you're a decently attractive, successful guy, then yes, abundance mentality will help you. Being aware is akin to being a expert via osmosis. I don't even know what you are trying to say. I've read RP theory, plenty of it...likely more than…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/17 11:33 AM
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My mom would not have had enough time in the day to do that. I barely have enough time to go to work, drive home, go to the gym, and cook dinner. Even when I was in school, until I turned 16, my mom was very busy with my sister and me. There was the 30 minute commute to drop your kids off at school, another 30 minute commute to pick them up, another 30-60 minute commute to take them to swimming every day. Then another commute to pick them up! That's 2-3 hours every single day right there just dr…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/17 11:16 AM
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do some squats hip thrusts
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/17 10:54 AM
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This is a superficial view of RP with very limited knowledge of RP praxology. What? No it's not. I am very aware of "RP praxology". I have been reading it since 2013. I will be the first one to admit that looks are not the most important feature for a man. As I have said many times before, there is a "looks threshold". If the man is below the threshold, I will not date him. No amount of game, charisma, dread, OU, etc etc etc will change that. Sorry. And the "looks threshold" is different for eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/17 10:30 AM
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Lol this is BS. My mom was a SAHM. She cooked dinner every night, made sure the house way always clean, took my sister and me to school, sports practice, piano lessons, etc. She taught us to read when we were very young. When my dad wanted a dog, she was the one to pick up his shit, deal with his puppy phase, take him for 1-2 hr walks everyday. She organized the landscapers, the pool cleaners, doctors appointments, holidays. My dad sure as hell wouldn't want to do those things. He wanted to run …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/17 10:19 AM
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You realize that by definition most people have an IQ of 90-110 with the average being 100. In the US and UK, yes. But across the entire planet? no. IQ was originally based on British intelligence distribution, not worldwide intelligence distribution. Average IQ in the UK is 100, in the US it's slightly lower at 98. Many sub-Saharan African countries have average IQs of 75 or lower. Which means that that ~40% of the population would be considered mentally retarded by US standards. See here.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/17 10:07 AM
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Many African countries have average IQs of 75. Or in some cases, even lower. see here.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/17 10:01 AM
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test that on average takes 3 months of preparation before taking it and is a bigger indicator of income than IQ or anything else at 12 The SAT doesn't need any preparation. It's an IQ test. Test-prep has a pretty insignificant impact on scores.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/17 09:58 AM
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I do not understand why Africa has not tried to correct overpopulation. It would be as simple as giving fertile women IUDs that last for 10 years (which are quite cheap compared to other methods). No need to deal with pills or frequent doctors visits. It just seems ridiculous to me that there is not more of an effort to get women to use low-maintenance birth control. So much money gets funneled into Africa (which I personally disagree with). But at least this would be a good use of funds.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/17 09:50 AM
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Are we talking about men or women? I think your point applies much more to women than men. For example, I'm hot but quite shy/introverted. If I was ugly, I'd probably never meet people. But men can be attractive and still "do wrong". For example, I can't stand "bros", or feminine but attractive men, or men that are just douchey in general. Doesn't matter if they are attractive, seriously. Anyways if you're really unattractive, then RP will probably be of limited value to you. Work on your physiq…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/17 09:43 AM
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Everyone has their preferences. Why is that a problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/17 09:33 AM
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I never said women find physically unattractive men attractive. I just said it's "not the most important trait". There is a difference between guys I want to fuck and guys I want to date (and would therefore fuck). I don't have sex outside relationships so it doesn't really matter if I found a guy super physically attractive but had no intentions of dating him.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/17 04:46 AM
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Well in that case, many things are most important traits, like: intelligence, charisma, humor, motivation/drive, potential. But those can't all be the most important.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/17 04:11 AM
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To men, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/17 02:17 AM
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Men think physical appearance is super important to women. In reality, physical appearance is not the most important trait that women look for in men. That doesn't mean we will date truly ugly men. There is a "looks threshold". If a man passes the threshold, his other traits (personality, confidence, history) are what determine if we'll be truly attracted to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/17 11:50 PM
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How would you know anything about the gender ratio on my campus? I went to a large state school in a very liberal town. If there was a skewed gender ratio, it was because there were more girls than guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/17 09:48 PM
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This is a weird question. I interact with males that I would never flirt with all the time, especially at work. It isn't a hypothetical. Does the average person not interact with the other gender at work? edit: I'm not into the whole beta orbiter thing and I rarely use facebook so it's not like I'm looking for males to give me attention. Is that what this question is referring to?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/17 04:20 AM
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What? It absolutely is. Also visual spatial abilities are very important for high level math. Females might do as well as males in 8th grade algebra, but it's very different when you look at the sex ratio in a class for multivariate calculus.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/17 08:50 PM
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Well you have a Red Pill flair, but you are ignoring one of their most basic premises: that you can't negotiate attraction. And dating is discriminationatory in its very nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/17 08:45 PM
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Do all of his other attractive qualities then become negated by his lack of height? Yes, at least for a romantic partner. I have 3 main criteria that I look for in a partner: that he be intelligent (preferably the same intelligence as myself - this is the hardest), that he have drive/motivation, and that he be taller than me. I don't need someone 6" taller than myself, but he does need to be taller. Why do you find this so offensive? I am an attractive woman. Why would I settle for someone short…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/17 01:28 PM
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As a female, I have not found that to be true. I have average looking friends who are no more heavily scrutinized than I am.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/17 12:59 PM
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It's not that easy to determine but in the past the SAT (administered to 7th graders) SAT is administered to 11th graders, so I'm not sure where you're getting that from. Career choice is not just down to ability. Else we have to argue that Indian girls must be better mathematicians than their Western counterparts because more of them choose STEM. Indians overwhelming choose to study Computer Science which is much less math intensive than other engineering disciplines. Taken from here. The study…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/17 12:30 PM
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So they can be both incredibly nice or insufferable assholes, whichever direction their heart tumbles. So just like everyone else?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/17 12:22 PM
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I never said that. I said I'm not attracted to guys who are shorter than me. No point in dating a guy who is shorter when I can get a guy who is taller. What is wrong with that? I believe gender roles are good, but I also work as an engineer...so I clearly don't follow the .
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/17 11:12 AM
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Would you date an obese woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/17 11:01 AM
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Lol. Heightist? Is that a thing? I'm not attracted to guys who are shorter than me. And I'm young and attractive so I can afford to be picky.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/17 10:33 AM
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