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Discussiononirroc/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 10:54 PM
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Yeah she's definitely an exception. She's literally watched me get fucked by a dude. .I had an ex who pretended to be okay with it but would use it against me in fights though
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 12:49 AM
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Fair enough, can't argue
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 12:19 AM
3

Why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 12:08 AM
8

Haha, it's hard to disagree with this
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 11:59 PM
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I completely understand and agree. Lots of straight men are turned on just by the idea though, and they hold out hope haha
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 11:58 PM
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Lots of straight men are turned on by the idea of two women together, even without seeing it. Its pretty fetishized. It's just neutral to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 11:46 PM
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I'm actually not really involved or experienced with the "gay lifestyle" at all. The men I've had sex with have been curious friends, a coworker, etc. I do know how rare monogamy seems to be with them though. I'm more used to being with women. My wife is the only one who is okay with me exploring thst side of me a bit more though (in the form of threesomes). I'd never expect an open-on-one-side situation though. That's shitty. I can see why women would be concerned about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 11:37 PM
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Fair enough. The women I've dated haven't been the type to want overly masculine mem so it's worked out. My wife actually finds the bi thing hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 11:27 PM
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Fair enough. I can see why those two things might be a problem for some women. Personally I'm fine with being totally monogamous but if a woman is okay with me fooling around I'm certainly not complaining haha.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 11:26 PM
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What if the guy is a top?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 11:17 PM
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I'm just not really into men in a romantic way. I only date women, but I'll have sex with either. I've mostly dated bi women too, the "kissed a girl while drunk" kind at least haha
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 11:07 PM
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Men can be shitty. Caring about men's rights doesn't mean you need to think men are perfect.
/r/MensRights28/09/23 03:20 PM
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I think it's generally either lack of options or, equally as common, just not caring about anything besides looks. Guys in here say all the time how nothing matters for a woman except her looks. They pick a broke trashy woman with anger issues because she's hot then wonder why they're being used for their money. Men should care about women's careers, personality etc in addition to looks
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/23 11:36 PM
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A man would need to be living under a rock to not realize divorce is a common thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 10:27 AM
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They're both perfectly reasonable. They are under the same umbrella as being filtered for not being attractive enough. Could be weight, height, a big nose, bad skin, bad teeth, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 01:52 PM
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I wish more lonely guys understood this. If you can't even talk to women platonically you need to work on that before thinking about dating
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 01:43 PM
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The whole "you asked me my height? Yeah well what do you weigh!?" thing just comes off as petty and childish especially since a person's weight tells you very little (usually) about their body type. Rejecting a woman after seeing full body pics is fine and normal. I don't really know any guys who would date fat women to be honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 01:41 PM
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It's fine to not be attracted to short people and to not be attracted to fat people. No one should be pressured to date someone they don't find attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 01:35 PM
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He might be. A lot of women think they can change a man into the kind of guy they want, too. Or they're so scared of being single they just put up with anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 12:23 PM
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Go to any relationship sub and look at all the posts by women complaining that their boyfriend won't even do the bare minimum, won't even brush his teeth, won't out in any effort etc. Or just listen to your female friends make those same complaints about totally average guys. It doesn't seem like men will do anything women ask. I sure as hell won't do everything that is asked of me just because it's my wife asking.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 11:58 AM
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No, it's important. A 19 year plan might care and might ask. A 36 year old won't.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 05:01 PM
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You're in your 40s. Unless you're trying to fuck women under 25, they aren't going to be asking for your "body count"
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 04:58 PM
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Dudes have been into this for a long ass time. As a bi man, early 2000s/mid 2000s Craigslist personals was full of men wanting to be sissies. Grindr is still pretty full of it. Mostly older men.
/r/MensRights08/08/23 01:38 PM
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Height absolutely affects someone's physical attractiveness to most people. It might not for you and that's okay. It does for others though.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 01:15 AM
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People are allowed to want to date someone they find attractive even if you find it shallow. I'm a guy and I wouldn't settle for a woman I don't find attractive just to avoid being shallow.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 12:13 AM
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I just mean short enough that theyre not attracted to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 06:24 PM
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If a woman isn't attracted to shorter men then it wouldn't make for a very good relationship for either of them. They might want someone to settle down with but they also want someone theyre attracted to
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 05:54 PM
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OP needs to go to any restaurant on a Friday evening and see dozens of average people in happy relationships with other average people.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 05:34 PM
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I'm an average man who is married and having sex regularly. Most of my friends are average and in long term relationships as well, presumably having sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 05:23 PM
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I live in a city generally known to be full of attractive people but you still see ugly married people around, especially in the suburbs. I'm probably a 5 or 6 anyway, but the height brings it down.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 02:11 PM
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That's crazy. Go outside you see ugly people in relationships everywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 02:07 PM
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All my relationships were friends first. Justvtakew being socially aware. Are they always wanting to hang out 1 on 1? Lots of platonic touching? And its not like I escalate directly to "let's be in a relationship!" I escalate to something more casual with no pressure or expectations and see how they feel.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 01:49 PM
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Some guys really overcomplicate it by thinking they need to cold approach. Ideally the goal is to just meet people and find one you click with. I met my wife doing an escape room with a mutual friend, we instantly hit it off in a platonic way so I escalated over time.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 12:22 PM
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Here is the secret to not being creepy (even if you're ugly and short like me): Build a connection before hitting on them. Hitting on random strangers will be "creepy" 90% of the time. Instead, talk, get to know each other, joke around, get her laughing, wait until there is chemistry. If there is chemistry, escalate, if not then don't escalate. I've pretty much done all my dating "in person" rather than apps, but I have never hit on a stranger. I wait until it's clear a woman has some interest i…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 12:01 PM
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I'd still take the 2nd fear over feari g for my life which I never did.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 04:24 PM
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Are men killed often by their female partners?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 04:17 PM
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Not okay, but I would consider it less severe.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 04:05 PM
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It's not harmless for everyone, but I don't think most men fear for their lives if their girlfriend slaps them or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 03:56 PM
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I believe it. I've experienced it. I've never been afraid for my life though, it was annoying but not scary.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 02:19 PM
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I think it's a leap of logic to go from "your make friends ate attracted to you" to "they're orbiters" or "that's why they're friends with you". I'm attracted to my female friends, if we were both singke sure I'd fuck most of them, but that unlikely hypothetically scenario is not why I'm friends with them. It's a minor blip in our friendship.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 11:35 AM
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Trying to keep the baby from its mother is just going to make you look bad in front if a judge. Be reasonable and get a lawyer and request 50% custody. Be well put together and don't put down the mother just argue your own case. You might not get full custody while baby is exclusively breastfeeding but hopefully will by 6 months. If baby is on formula you might get it right away.
/r/MensRights26/04/23 04:19 PM
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I want to commit. I don't want to have to go meet a new girl all the time or do fwb while she fucks other guys too. I enjoy stability. I got a hot girl and we get to hang out every day and have fun? Sign me up. My wife is my best friend that I also get to fuck multiple times per week.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 11:08 AM
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Benefits of a relationship: Not having to pursue women, try to meet women, try to impress women or wonder if I'll get sex this weekend. Having a person who loves and supports me through difficult times. Being able to let my guard down and be myself because I have no one to impress. Double income. When you first move in with your partner your rebt and utilies are slashed in half. Someone to raise awesome kids with
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 10:49 AM
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Lots of women desire to be stay at home moms cooking and cleaning, they are generally the ones wanting traditional men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 06:25 PM
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I'm thinking of cases where both people want sex but one person insists on sticking to a 3 month rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 03:44 PM
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I don't like artificial rules. If the chemistry is there and we are both horny we should have sex. I don't like the idea of being made to wait just as a test.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 03:12 PM
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It's still fine if she wants to settle down with an average guy. If they both choose to be together, who cares?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 03:09 PM
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I'm not against dating a woman after having sex with them right away, I just haven't done it. Every woman I've dated has been someone I well and it just evolved into more. In most cases (including my wife) we did have sex before ever "dating" though, if that counts?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 02:47 PM
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With my wife it was about a year, but only because she had a boyfriend when we met and I had to wait until she was single, it was obvious we were into each other from the start though.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 04:00 PM
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With some it was a pretty instant chemistry, with others it was more of a realization after knowing each other a while, often the realization comes while under the influence.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 03:46 PM
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I'm a guy with an average dating/sex history. Every woman I've been with has been someone I met organically in a non-romantic context. I met my now wife when I went to an escape room with a mutual friend. I'm not attractive enough for apps or cold approaching, and the "natural" method has gotten me success, be it dating or sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 02:59 PM
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Yeah I think that's a decent compromise, improve and work with qualities you have instead of trying to adopt qualities you don't. There is a large subset of bitter men who will argue against literally every single piece no matter what it is though, all they're trying to do is bring you down and get you to agree women suck, they're not worth engaging with at all in my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 01:50 PM
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Guys get mad when they hear "be yourself, you don't need to change" and they get mad when they hear "work on yourself to be more appealing". I'm not sure what they want. I'm a guy too for the record, and I definitely lean towards "be yourself", but if being yourself isn't working you need to either accept being alone or make changes.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 01:46 PM
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One decent income still isn't great for raising a family, traveling, etc. They want a man to help them reach the lifestyle they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 01:50 PM
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Oh it definitely is nonsense. I'm more on the outside looking in, aka average. Never an incel or pua just an average guy going through life, a few serious relationships, a few hookup situations, don't use online dating just meet people organically, average looking, short, etc. Now married with kids. There are nuggets of truth but sometimes I swear these people live on a different planet.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 05:34 PM
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That I can agree with, I just tend to talk about this under the assumption that guys on here do not believe women have that sort of depth. This place is bad for me, even when disagreeing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 05:06 PM
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Yeah it's a decent question. I just reject the notion she's with me because of what I give her. She's had richer and better looking guys express interest. I am extremely average haha
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 04:55 PM
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I think it was just a woman recognizing that what I was going through wasn't permanent and she loved me enough to help me through it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 04:45 PM
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In my case it was at the beginning
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 04:19 PM
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I can agree there. But women will often stay through hard times when they are not getting anything material out of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 02:08 PM
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I'm so used to thinking this sub only believes women care about status and money so I didn't think to mention the love and companionship I provided her.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 01:41 PM
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People go through rough patches, they aren't permanent. My wife has been by my side when I was poor and had zero prospects (randomly fell into a decent job but no formal education), and she has been with me through mental health problems causing hospitalization and long stretches off work. She's always picked up the slack. I don't deserve her.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 01:37 PM
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Some of us are with women who continue to love us when we are a burden and give them nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 01:25 PM
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If these 5s and 6s aren't attracted to them then maybe they are lower than 5/6 themselves. It sounds like they are going for women out if their league. If the women they desire don't consider them in their league that's all that matters, even if friends or daily or strangers rate them higher.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 03:49 PM
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My wife hangs out with guys without me sometimes, I also hang out with girls without her. Neither of us I'd the jealous type. We're into 3somes and shit though...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 02:33 PM
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How does being so jealous and insecure that your girl can't even have male friends make you happier? I'm not into super high body counts (20+), but I could not give a fuck about male friends. I'm not sure what that makes me. When I see jealous insecure guys in relationships it looks miserable.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 12:34 PM
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Yeah, it's an unbalanced issue and that makes it difficult. Women have been oppressed for a long time and even though things are basically equal now, the memories are there, there are still people alive when women coukd not vote, and still millions alive when women were considered to be not even close to equal to men. Lots of misandry is a reaction to that, but then that misandry causes more misogyny in return. I don't have a good answer. Boomers need to die off.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 12:54 PM
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Neither will ever be completely stopped. Just have equality under the law and call them out when seen, that's the best we can do. Social pressure so people don't feel as comfortable expressing it. Just like racism.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 12:47 PM
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Or both. They are selected based on potential and the marriage allows them to reach that potential.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 04:14 PM
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Yeah, married men definitely benefit in a lot of cases from being able to focus purely on work and not worry about other stiff as much.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 03:51 PM
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This seems a few decades late. These days most women are graduating university, working serious jobs and often making as much or more than their partner. If you asked women you'd hear the same stories about loser men spending their money on weed and video games and neglecting bills. Some people are just shit with money. My wife and I each make around 50k but she is by far the more financially responsible one. I'm too impulsive, she keeps me in check. A good solution is just to keep some finances…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 01:44 PM
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They're not insurmountable, definitely not. They're just not easy fixes since you can't just pass a law, it involves changing human behavior, the legal one anyway. As for prison I think changing drug laws would help a shit ton.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 07:29 PM
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Well men's rights are human rights. Those are just examples of human rights abuses that specifically target men (in the west). What are some examples of possible trade offs you have in mind?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 07:20 PM
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Sure. But I don't think fucking a guy inherently makes someone less masculine.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 06:51 PM
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I think it's possible for movements for particular rights to have success (perhaps anti-circumcision laws or getting rid of the draft, maybe groups setting up male homeless shelters and help lines), but the vagueness of men's rights groups as a thing doesn't help. Too much men's rights discussion is just bitterness towards women or whining about social issues with no clear solution. I feel the same way about modern feminism but at least they have abortion to rally around. So yeah, picking specif…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 06:30 PM
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It also seems a lot less masculine to be so structured about what you do out of worry you might be perceived as feminine vs just not giving a shit. Kind of a weird catch 22 maybe
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 06:09 PM
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Yeah that sounds like a crappy way to live honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 05:43 PM
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Yeah strange that being masculine simply adds to a woman but being feminine takes away from a man. There's no good reason for it. The people who think that obviously haven't met a lot of gay men either haha, lots are more masculine than half the straight guys I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 05:15 PM
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Yeah, bi women usually have a different complaint from bi men. They are usually trying to avoid straight men wanting them too much (usually on the hopes of getting a 3some like you said, while not really caring about them much). And weirdly bi people don't do much better in gay spaces. A lot of lesbians are weird about wanting "gold star" lesbians who have not been tainted by dick. Gay men usually think bi guys will use them for sex then run off to marry a woman. It's why I like being with other…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 05:11 PM
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I think that's part of it too. It's overall very pervasive. It's cool to give baby girls boy names, its fine for girls to dress boyishly, its cool for girls to like dinosaurs and trucks, it's cool for a girl to like boy things like video games or heavy metal. The inverse is pretty much never true. I'm not insecure in my masculinity, so it doesn't bother me, but I see it so much, especially as a dad of young kids. Girls have a lot more freedom to express themselves without attracting negative att…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 04:46 PM
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I'm a bi man and I think it's just women thinking it makes men less masculine. Women doing masculine things is generally celebrated by society, masculine things are cool. Men doing feminine things is still shit on. That being said, there's a decent amount of women who are into it and find guy on guy hot. I've dated a few, I'm married to one. We have 3somes with another guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 04:17 PM
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I guess i don't know how else to describe what I do. I'm not attractive or tall but I am a very extroverted person which I know helps.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 06:01 PM
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You can keep doing the benevolent sexism. I never liked doing it so I don't. I've had better luck just talking to them normally, sometimes it throws them off a bit but also makes them a little intrigued since they don't immediately know if I want to fuck them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 05:55 PM
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When I say treat them like they are people I mean don't be scared of them. It's a show of confidence to talk to them the way you'd talk to a guy instead of "simping", and it's easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 05:33 PM
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Then you move on. Maybe you get a new friend out of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 05:24 PM
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It doesn't imply you shouldn't hit on them. It means don't overthink things, don't come up with "methods", just talk to them and let chemistry develop organically.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 05:17 PM
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My wife and I have taken multiple month long breaks from sex (after she gave birth). Wasn't a big deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 05:44 PM
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I generally agree that it's preferable to let relationships form organically and that's how all mine have happened. But I don't think it works for all guys. It requires being somewhat social and being around women regularly. Introverts working in a male dominated field without social hobbies are going to need to be more proactive with dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 11:58 AM
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We don't control each other's social media usage. She goes out for drinks sometimes too.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 07:15 PM
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That would be insanely insecure on my part. I'm also not going to try and stop her from going out for drinks with friends now and then.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 07:02 PM
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As a guy I'm supposed to hit on a stranger every time my wife gets hit on? I really don't care that much about dudes shooting their shot.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 06:59 PM
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It makes me fucking scares for my son.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 01:26 PM
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The internet was around but not the pill stuff. Back then angry young men went on 4chan but it was a totally different vibe to the modern pill thinking. Back then you could be an angry virgin who sucks with girls but there was the feeling that most would grow out of it. The modern hopelessness and crab bucket mentality makes things 100x worse. I despise seeing teenage boys complaining about being single and instead of venting with other teenage boys they have hoards of men telling them it's hope…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 01:19 PM
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Yeah I guess I can't relate because there was never a time when I thought I was really hot to women. I always knew I was average looking and kind of short. There wasn't any kind of indoctrination in my case.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 01:00 PM
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It is kind of strange. I know lots of other men have an easier time than me with women, but it is what it is. You play the hands you're dealt. It doesn't accomplish anything to be angry about it. It's just like how some men are born into wealth. Do I wish I was? Sure. Am I going to be angry about it? No. I'd rather be happy with what I do have.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 12:34 PM
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She shows no signs of resenting me. We respect each others beliefs. She's an intelligent, kind, responsible person and that's why I love her. We agree on more things than we disagree. Shes an awesome mom and awesome wife so I'm happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 06:14 PM
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Some of the biggest disagreements we have on "culture war" issues are: Trans stuff. I have no issues with trans people existing and adults modifying their bodies. I have issues with children modifying their bodies and with how much the "see me as the gender I want to be" stuff is pushed heavily oh everyone else. My wife is more "everyone is valid! Love and accept everyone!" and thinks we should go out of our way to be trans inclusive. She thinks I'm insensitive and that it takes nothing to be in…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 05:37 PM
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Similar values is definitely what matters even if you differ on how to achieve the goals. My wife is pretty far left, I'm more centrist with libertarian leanings, but we both want similar things, and respect each other's ideas.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 05:18 PM
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Yeah its rough. Apps have ruined things. I used a few different apps for months and didn't get a single match that went beyond a few lines of conversation, maybe 3 matches total. It sucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 01:05 PM
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It's kind of just about getting to know people platonically and sometimes you click. I don't do cold approaches or meeting people specifically with the hopes of there being romance. Examples, in school or work you might be around 10-20 women regularly and sometimes your personality just clicks with one of theirs. I met my wife when I was doing an escape room and then drinks and appetizers with some friends, one friend brought her friend that I hadn't met before. We instantly hit it off with shar…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 12:54 PM
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To expand on it, when you're unattractive on a dating app women have no incentive to get to know you. With social circle, the women get to know you and your personality naturally and can find themselves being attracted to you even if they wouldn't have been based on a picture on a dating app). Dating apps are seriously overrated.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 12:13 PM
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And this is why as an average short guy I've never bothered much with dating apps. Always had way better luck within my social circle.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 11:46 AM
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I'm sorry you're struggling.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 10:04 PM
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It won't work for everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 09:55 PM
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It's not going to work for everyone, but being moderately extroverted and likable can definitely make up for being average looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 09:47 PM
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Different things work for different people. I'm average looking and short, there is no point in me using apps or cold approaching. I've always utilized my social circle with moderate success. Hot guys can use the apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 09:46 PM
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Yeah, it's kind of funny and I've noticed it too. I think for 2 reasons, one is that these dudes practically worship Asian women, and one is that now that these Asian women are in Canada they want to live a Canadian lifestyle and feel that freedom.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 11:49 AM
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This stuff is all hard to wrap my head around as a late 20s average married guy with a bunch of average friends in average relationships. I am guessing it is mainly effecting younger people though.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 05:13 PM
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Seems like other men are more of a problem than women then.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 05:05 PM
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Why don't men treat it the same way then? Men need to stop being so desperate. I would rather be single and sexless then settle for some fat girl I don't even enjoy being around. Women are going to keep aiming high now that they don't "need" men and as long as hot men are willing to settle.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 04:49 PM
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I guess I don't see it as unfair. Women are only able to do that because of the men participating. Men need higher standards I think
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 04:29 PM
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I just don't see the use in using a rating system that the people you're trying to fuck don't agree with. I guess it makes them feel good to call themselves a higher number? I could call myself an 8, but in reality women probably see me as more of a 6, so it doesn't actually improve anything to claim I'm an 8. The number system sucks anyway though. I have vastly different taste from a lot of men so women most guts see as 9 I see as 6 and the women I like are probably 6 or 7 to other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 04:12 PM
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But that's the only useful metric. What is the point of a guy calling himself a 7 if women see him as a 5? What is the use of that?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 04:05 PM
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To me she'd be a 1, if other guys treat her as fuckable they can go for it. All I'm saying is the only "rating" that matters is how the opposite sex sees you, not how you see yourself, or how your mom sees you, or your friends...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 04:00 PM
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If guys are treating her like above average then I guess she is? Definitely not my type. These ratings only matter when it comes to how the opposite sex sees you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 03:52 PM
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I like small tits, am I broken?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 03:13 PM
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You don't consider it a bonding experience?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 02:45 PM
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For those kind of guys it's probably more about their own egos. For regular guys like me it's an amazing bonding experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 02:15 PM
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Sex isn't stupid though. It's fun, a binding experience and makes you feel good.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 02:00 PM
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"Without the good feelings sex is stupid" ... well yeah? Who cares? It's normal and fine to want those good feelings. It reduces stress and helps you feel closer to your partner. I don't really understand your point.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 01:57 PM
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So add an "om sorry, that must be hard". Ot doesn't do them any favors to indulge in their persecution fetish though.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 03:38 PM
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It's not dismissive, it's constructive. Dwelling on not getting laid won't help them get laid. Becoming a person who is happy and fulfilled in other ways actually might.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 03:16 PM
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Why is it toxic? If someone is ugly or unsuccessful with sex should we just tell them to wallow in self pity? Or find happiness in other things?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 03:12 PM
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I'm a father of 3. We share parenting duties pretty evenly. We both work. Being a good father is all about teaching and nurturing them, instilling good values. I teach my kids how to be self sufficient and independent and how to treat others and what kind of treatment they should want for themselves. I teach them how to handle failure and disappointment and be resilient. How do to handle their emotions. I nurture their individual personalities and interests and traits and help them be the best t…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 06:06 PM
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I definitely got crazy going for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 08:13 PM
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Do tell.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 08:11 PM
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Women settle plenty for guys who don't meet all their standards too, otherwise you wouldn't see so many ugly/fat guys in relationships. I'd probably be single if they weren't flexible on standards since I'm a 5'6 guy haha
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 08:06 PM
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Yeah I got friends in their late 30s now trying and it's rough. We had our first when my wife was 23 and I was 25 and it was too early but we somehow managed
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 02:06 PM
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Kids are expensive and not everyone can afford to be a parent fresh out of high-school. Lots of people that age aren't mature enough to do a good job raising them either. I think late 20s is a pretty ideal time to be honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 01:48 PM
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It doesn't have to be explicitly stated its masculine, just positive portrayals of men with those traits I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 06:30 PM
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Yeah I'm not a woman so I can't speak to their issues really, but I care about my fellow men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 06:30 PM
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I can't speak to women's problems since I'm a man. I don't want men feeling desperate enough to kill themselves. Sure, that involves discussing things we can do differently, but it's not forced, it's suggestions to hopefully lead a happier, more fulfilled life that doesn't end by suicide. I care about my fellow men. I don't think that's sinister. I'm not dictating anything, only suggesting. There's a lot of unhappy and lonely men out there. My own father survived a suicide attempt. I just think …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 06:09 PM
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I think some of the biggest problems women complain about is less power in society and sexualization in media. The problem is women not often going for powerful positions in society. They need to go for what they want, that type of masculine work ethic and assertiveness to rise in the ranks. It doesn't really matter if men approve or not. To me the issues with masculinity are violence and suicide, I don't care if women approve of us addressing those issues or not, and they also shouldn't seek ou…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 05:39 PM
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Definitely. Less sensitivity but more empathy. I think we'll rounded humans have a decent mix masculine and feminine qualities too. Men could use some gentleness more often and women could stand to be more assertive.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 05:26 PM
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Show appreciation for positive aspects of masculinity. Focus on that, it's sometimes more effective to talk about what people can be and should be than what they shouldn't. Being confident, helping, decisive, analytical etc, encourage this stuff. Men need to support each other build each other up too. Check in, compliment each other etc, form a really strong support network. Gotta help men find self worth outside of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 05:13 PM
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I don't want to pay for other guys kids they decided to paper-abort. Sure I don't mind paying in to help struggling families, but fuck no I don't want to pay when the kids own dad doesn't have to.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 05:20 PM
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Go outside. There are millions of married ugly people. Go to a Chilis or a Walmart.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 01:15 PM
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Definitely. I've managed to have a pretty regular dating/sex life by being social, funny, easy to talk to, adventurous etc. I'm not even that ugly, mostly just short which I guess acts the same way. One thing I learned would not work for me is apps/online dating. I'm the type that needs to make a first impression in person. I have a solid social circle so that's always helped.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 01:14 PM
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Yeah. I'm married with kids and have an average/boring but happy life.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 01:04 PM
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I didn't really realize until I was in my early 20s. As a teenager I just kept thinking eventually I'll be attractive. In my 20s I realized that nope, this is how I look. It was nice to stop stressing about it though and focus on things I could control instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 12:47 PM
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Are red pillers actually losing it? I don't think most people care if others choose this dynamic.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 05:40 PM
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Yeah in the literal sense they won't be incels. It's not going to cure the mindset at all though. Curing the mindset requires much more self reflection than incels are generally capable of.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/23 02:31 PM
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Telling guys to be confident is universal advice. This is just a specific version of confidence. I don't think it can cure inceldom because I don't think getting dates and sex can even cure inceldom, inceldom is a poisoning of the mind that takes a lot of introspection. It can definitely help average guys get dates, sex and become more comfortable talking to women though.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/23 02:13 PM
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That "method" really has nothing to do with Andrew Tate and has existed before him and is advice given by many different people. Slapping Andrew Tates name on it makes it unnecessarily controversial.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/23 02:02 PM
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Probably not, I don't think most girls are. I think for some reason a lot of men are blind to average boring women and start to think these instagram girls are "what women are nowadays".
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 07:07 PM
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I'm a millennial. Most of my social circle is either married, married with kids or in a long term relationship. Most have a small social media presence and use it for friends and family. I know these "instagram girls" definitely exist, but they're not the majority in my experience. Men and women will use dating apps, bitch about how much they suck, but still end up in a relationship with some average person. I have a teenage kid, maybe things will be different for her, right now she uses discord…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 06:48 PM
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I don't think the idea is that women are attracted to men who do all the housework, but women do lose attraction to men when they feel they have to be his mom, so it makes sense that doing his fair share makes a guy more attractive than doing nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 04:44 PM
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I've never used Tinder, I hear it's rough. I always recommend meeting people organically in person.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 01:40 PM
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It just gets old that there's always something to blame without ever thinking "maybe it's my fault".
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/23 02:04 PM
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I'm not American. Regardless. It's definitely a lot less common for moms to get fat there. That's why I don't understand the "it's hormones!" answer. Hormones didn't make my wife get fat either
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/23 01:54 PM
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I've been to Japan and Korea and I think I only saw 4 or 5 fat people in both countries combined lol
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/23 01:50 PM
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The us has plenty of fresh healthy food too, that just also have the junk. I think education about how to eat healthy is a huge factor missing though.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/23 01:39 PM
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My experience was seeing the moms in Denmark, the Netherlands, Norway as well as parts of Eastern Europe. My wife is Russian. I'm not sure I saw any fat mothers in those places. Fat people in general were rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/23 01:30 PM
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I agree the Anerican diet is the problem, but it is a choice to consume the sugary junk and large portions. It's not forced.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/23 01:29 PM
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I'm.not sure why it's weird to wonder why it's only certain populations that can't help the weight gain while others seem to effortlessly lose the weight after giving birth. Thin mothers are the norm in a lot of places.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/23 01:24 PM
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I believe you but I am still curious why it doesn't cause east Asian or most European women to get fat?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/23 01:21 PM
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Why then does it not to seem to effect East Asian women or many European women? Honestly curious.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/23 01:20 PM
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No it isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 11:05 PM
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Before this gets removed I just need to say: lol
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 10:43 PM
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Various online feminist/left wing spaces would discuss them
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 03:20 PM
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Been on reddit a long time so saw the rise of red pill stuff. Met my wife and she introduced me to incel/blackpill stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 02:47 PM
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Is there a reason you find yourself surrounded by that sort of person? I've had younger relationships where we were both like that, maybe an age thing. I wouldn't have married my wife if she wasn't an effective communicator though. To be honest she taught me a lot about conflict resolution. It's the only relationship where we haven't yelled at each other or insulted each other. It's worth finding, but you do you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 02:10 PM
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Its tough in cases when both people truly believe they are in the right, takes a lot of introspection from both to figure out a way to move forward. Some people aren't mature enough for that introspection and aren't worth dealing with. It's not gaslighting just someone being self centered and immature imo. Both people need to be able to recognize their faults and weaknesses (we all have them) for a relationship to work. Dont waste time with people who can't admit when they are wrong, and if you …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 02:03 PM
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Sometimes people are just being dicks, gaslighting is a lot more specific. I didn't read the OP but shifting the blame is just someone being defensive and not taking responsibility. How we handle it is make sure each person's concerns are fully heard, even if we are blaming each other, vent, whatever, then when everything is out in the open we brainstorm solutions. There's often disagreements about who's at fault so usually the solution involves some compromise.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 01:53 PM
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Doesn't change anything about what I said. I'd choose my wife over a baby that doesn't even know it exists yet. We could make another baby.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 02:04 PM
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I'm a man, but I think theres a huge difference between an unborn baby and an actual kid or adult. When my wife was giving birth both times damn right I'd choose her over the unborn baby. We could always make more babies but I couldn't make another her. She has decades of memories and experiences and relationships, the infant doesn't even know it exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 01:55 PM
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I was able to pretty easily gauge my now wife's libido based on discussions about sex while we were just friends. She was always very open about it, watched porn etc, no shame it was just a normal topic about a fun activity. Compared to some women I know who act like it's taboo to even discuss or seem ashamed if it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 02:03 PM
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Abortions (if you live somewhere they are able) are cheap/free and easy and usually just involve taking a couple pills.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/22 03:22 PM
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Yeah lots of women find that put about their husband's too. Just have to put in the work to make a marriage successful. We have kids but we don't stop "dating". We have a date night every other week and go away for a weekend every other month together. We have regular talks about our sex life and how to keep it exciting. We still flirt every day and send sexy pics etc. There's no guarantees in life, just need to give yourself the best chance you got
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/22 04:18 PM
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None. Wtf?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 07:15 PM
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Maybe I'm looking back at "teenage love" too fondly. The world is ending thing is definitely true haha
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 02:16 PM
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Why do you think dating young is stupid? Just curious. I dated young, and my 13 year old dates. Always figures it was good experience and good practice!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 02:07 PM
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This is just the basics I wrote out in 2 minutes. There is lots more, can't fit it all in one reply. Yes, how to reject and accept rejection are there too and something I've gone over with my oldest daughter already.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 01:40 PM
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I'm a dad with 2 girls and a boy. I'll teach them all about finding someone who treats them well and they are compatible with, not to date just anybody because theyre desperate. I'll teach about red flags and what to look out for and the importance of being fulfilled and happy on their own too and to be the best version of themselves. I'll teach them about consent and how to treat other people with kindness and fairness. My daughter has already begun dating. Has ahe taken all my advice? Nope, bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 01:28 PM
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I just find it all fascinating. I guess my only goal is to sometimes bring people back to reality. So much of the discussion on here comes from chronically online people who form opinions almost entirely from reading or watching things online. I don't have any stake in men vs. women, I think we are way more alike than you'd think by reading here.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 02:54 PM
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That's how women who aren't very interested in you text. Theure probably also talking to a bunch of other guys and don't have time for that much effort. Another reason I hate OLD. I do much better in person.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 04:25 PM
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Right but in person you get a person's vibe easier, don't have to worry about misleading pics, just a general feel for a person much faster. I'm also not into cold approaching random strangers off the street though.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 03:37 PM
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Not even worth the effort to go through all the shit to find the good ones. It's why I prefer in person stuff not apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 03:22 PM
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As a man who has experiences 100s of men on grindr being interested in me... I'm almost inclined to believe them. Trying to wade through that swamp isn't even worth it to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 12:36 PM
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If you see a future with her then be honest if it comes up, but it might not even come up. I find it weird so many people on here ask their dates how many people they fucked as a "get to know you" question. I didn't know my wife's exact number until after we were married. We talked a lot about past sexyal and romantic experiences just never thought to ask for a number.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 12:34 PM
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This reminds me of how I recently had a conversation with a friend about period sex and how I still go down on my wife during her period. He was horrified and actually seemed angry. I learned 2 things that day, 1. In his culture women only use pads not tampons, and 2. He thinks going down on a woman means thrusting your tongue in and out of the hole.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 12:52 PM
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Sometimes it's hard to get into relationships if you're not attractive or don't have other good traits. That's just life. Some of gotta work harder. I'm in my late 20s and the only single men I spend time with are single by choice, most are in ltrs or married.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 05:26 PM
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Most men date, fuck and get married. Incels are a minority. The complaints usually come from men attempting to get hot women and being rejected.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 05:14 PM
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Women are generally taken seriously when complaining about assault and harassment. Men mainly complain about hot women not wanting to fuck them. Pretty big difference. I sympathize with either gender being harassed, much less sympathy for not being able to get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 04:58 PM
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As a man, I've always found it easier to open up to women than other men, but I do have a male support network that just operates differently. In my experience men are supportive in different ways. We don't go into the details of our problems, we just recognize someone is struggling and do our best to show them a good time, give them some extra attention etc. It's helpful and it works. But when it comes to an actual mental health crisis and opening up about the unpleasant details and feelings, I…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 12:52 PM
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Yeah. But hes good with kids, selfless, in touch with his emotions (with the help of main character), and treats her like a princess.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 04:42 PM
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Not at all. The small town guy is in touch with his emotions, kind, doesn't care about being ambitious etc, just wants to drink hot chocolate and dec9rate for Christmas. My wife has made me watch too many of these haha
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 02:51 PM
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Hallmark movies always portray the original "business" guy as an asshole and the small town guy as the "nice guy" that she falls for. What are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 02:48 PM
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I'm 28 and my male friends are mostly career and family focused with half of them being fathers or married or both. Is it possible your friends are just immature and stuck in a high school mentality?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 02:46 PM
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Because if he really didn't care he wouldn't do it. He obviously cares enough about how others see him if goes out and buys lifts.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 09:21 PM
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Yes. It's not a secret that short men are considered undesirable and most short men are insecure about it. What is this weird game where we ignore basic truths?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 09:20 PM
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No because women are not generally insecure about not being tall enough. Women are much more likely to be insecure about being too tall. Heels push the ass out and are a fashion thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 09:10 PM
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I'm a guy haha. Medical reasons I don't think would bother anyone or imply insecurity.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 09:04 PM
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At least you could say there's an aspect of fun and creativity with makeup, it's a legitimate hobby, shoe inserts are pure insecurity.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 09:04 PM
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I wouldn't do it because I have no need to look taller. There's no reason to wear them outside of insecurity and it will look silly when people see them indoors with no shoes and now theyre 4 inches shorter
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 08:27 PM
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For sure, I'm not disagreeing. Was just explaining to OP why some women push for marriage, its because they know they want kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 06:18 PM
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Yeah for women who do want kids that's why they push for marriage/commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 06:10 PM
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A big reason for it is women's biological clocks. They can't wait around forever if they want a family.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 05:53 PM
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Yeah, minors fucking other minors almost never results in convictions or jail time, sex offenses rarely end in convictions period, and this dude got 3 years at 17? It was 100% worse than just her being younger.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 08:33 PM
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Some may have been, but there were a lot. I honestly think it got linked in a men's rights group or something based on all the "he was probably innocent, court system hates men" comments.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 08:32 PM
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No it was multiple paragraphs arguing over how unfair it is to not give him a chance because people change or rants about how he's probably innocent anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 08:14 PM
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I'm not even into casual sex really. I'm married to a woman with a male FWB I see sporadically. He's also bi and married to a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 08:05 PM
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I know, I'm a man too, I consider the whiners a minority already and these guys were definitely a minority of that minority. Still eye opening seeing what some men think women should accept though.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 07:44 PM
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All the dudes saying she should give him a chance at least made it clear where a lot of the whiny men think the bar should be though
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 07:40 PM
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It was pretty engaging. But all the comments from men thinking she should give him a chance were a good look into where some men think the bar should be... now I wonder about all the men complaining about the bar being too high. Are they wanting it to be low enough that rapists get a chance?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 07:32 PM
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There was a post on a different subreddit this morning by a woman with kids who asked if she should continue to date a sex offender who spent 3 years in prison for sexually assaulting a 14 year old girl. I no longer think the standards are that high.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 07:22 PM
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Of course. There's such a wide range, every vagina isn't going to be attractive to every guy, same with every penis. I'm confused how it's even a question haha
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 12:21 PM
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Do you mean women who are bad at sex? Because they exist, just like men who are bad at sex. Some of them might be new to it and unsure what to do, some are just selfish, some are too prudish to go beyond missionary, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 12:13 PM
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The picky eating thing has ruined a relationship for me too. I live trying new restaurants and new cuisines but she always wanted chicken fingers.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 08:46 PM
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I just find the disconnect between the internet and real life fascinating. All this discourse online... but in person the vast majority of my friends have never heard of the pills and well, people just date like normal with only mild complaints here and there. Most are in long term relationships. It's honestly the most intriguing thing to me. The world these people discuss looks nothing like the world I live in. Men aren't sad and lonely, women aren't desired by everyone. Average men sometimes c…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 04:16 PM
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If he's a 4/10 I must be more attractive than I originally thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 03:43 PM
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I'm just wondering why the anger isn't directed at the person cheating on them. I'm a man, I've cheated and been cheated on. In that moment I hated her, not him.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 06:33 PM
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Why would the dude be that angry at a stranger instead of his own partner?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 06:28 PM
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I agree with men needing instant attraction but attraction being able to develop for women. Every woman I've been worth has been a situation where after knowing me a while all of a sudden they start seeing me sexually. I guess I need to grow on people.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 03:23 PM
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I don't want to fuck 20 year olds. I'm married with 3 kids my wife is 2 years younger than me. Just tired of 20 year olds being treated like kids when lots are fully independent adults at that age.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 12:50 PM
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I agree that the difference in life stages is too large and regardless of the maturity of the 20 year old it's normal to see them as kids. Just find it weird how so many people want to act like 20 year olds are unable to make those sorts of decisions. I slept with a 48 year old man at 19. I have no regrets, I understood what I was doing. I judge him now, but I don't judge me.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 12:48 PM
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It's u fortunate that incels have made it so difficult to have sympathy for ateuggling men. I think we need more decent struggling men who don't turn to anger and bitterness to speak openly and change the narrative. It makes me wonder what causes a man to go down the path of hatred and anger towards women? Not all lonely rejected men do. Two men could have the same life experience of being awkward, bullied, rejected, isolates from women... but only one develops "incel" beliefs and blames women w…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 12:44 PM
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Yeah but that's literal children we are talking about adults. We trust young adults to fight in wars, dispense dangerous medications, raise and teach children, have mortgages etc but not decide who they want to date and have sex with?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 12:37 PM
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I agree, to get that out of the way. I also don't like infantilizing adults though. I was fully financially independent and moved out by 17. My sister had a university degree and a mortgage at 21. People are raising multiple kids by that age.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 12:13 PM
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Maybe we are using settle different. If I settled I'd think I wish I had someone better, I'd probably consider leaving the person if someone better came along, I'd fantasize about someone better, I'd be a bit resentful. I wouldn't want to be with anyone but my wife though. She's perfect for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 02:54 PM
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You don't gotta be perfect. Just be genuine and your best self. You're still young do you got lots of time. Don't let this turn you bitter.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 02:23 PM
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Why not focus on self improvement so you don't need to settle?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 02:13 PM
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That's just sad man.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 01:58 PM
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Because its better to be single than with someone who doesn't make your life better. I'm an average guy, I'm also short, so I know it's difficult, I still refused to settle and now I'm married.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 01:50 PM
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I kind of agree with conventionally attractive women. I tend to prefer pretty or cute over hot, I like some flaws, not into hourglass figures as much etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 12:59 PM
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What I wonder is how many men would even want to be with or marry a woman they know lowered her standards to settle for him? I think I'd rather be single. It's hard to understand this mindset even as a man. I think men should have high standards too, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 12:54 PM
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My wife and I talked about this in depth after she saw a popular tik tok video about how ugly and hot for men are not opposites. A guy can be good looking but not hot and a guy can be ugly but hot. It boiled down to 2 things: "good looking" guys also tend to be sort of boring looking. Women like faces that are a bit different, imperfect or rougher looking too. In the video she gave the example of Henry Cahill being hot as Geralt but not superman because superman is too boring looking. There's al…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 12:51 PM
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I always said never date a woman into astrology, witchy shit, crystals etc. Then I met my wife and she's one of the most intelligent and educated women I know but she's into all of those things. I looked past it because I was so infatuated with her and I'm glad I did. She trusts modern medicine and science. The other shit is basically just a hobby she does with her friends, it doesn't affect our marriage or her parenting or her career, so I don't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 12:51 PM
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Oh yeah. In high-school I wasn't remotely popular but I did fine with the other stoners and shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 03:23 PM
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It wasn't abnormal. It was just a lot of dumb high schoolers with unlimited time and lots of drugs and alcohol. The drugs and alcohol continued into my 20s until I decided it wasn't the life for me. But young guys in the drug scene hooking up isn't uncommon at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 03:10 PM
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Not a lot. Just enough that I felt satisfied. Most of it was in high-school. Lots of partying and drugs. I wasn't the most popular but I had always had connections lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 03:09 PM
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I agree, I guess I don't see how its negative to settle down later after you've both had your wild years, so long as the woman is highly attracted to you. My wife and I both have some crazy pasts and now we go to PTA meetings, neither of suffers from FOMO or regretting that we didn't get to experience other things.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 01:23 PM
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Amy amount is fine as long as it doesn't affect the relationship. If you're still spending enough quality time with your partner and have a good sex life, who cares?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 03:34 PM
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It's done a 180 here in Canada. When I was born it was about 50/50, when my 4 year old son was born the doctor tore me a new one for even asking about it. Apparently only 1% of Canadian infant males are circumcised nowadays. We left him as is.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 02:05 PM
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Circumcision on girls is abhorrent, circumcision on boys is normal. And yes I know some types of FGM are much worse than male circumcision, there are also types of FGM that are similar or not as bad (removal of clitoral hood or pin prick type), yet they ate still considered horrific. Even if we found out it helped prevent STDs it would still be horrific. I'm circumcised, I like my penis, no complaints, I just find it really bizarre.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 01:44 PM
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My best relationship, aka my wife, just began while visiting a haunted house with coworkers and one coworker brought her friend along. Sometimes it's the most random shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 12:03 PM
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Doing things to improve your life always helps and usually helps you expand your circle too. I've never used online dating, and I've met women on self improvement journeys. Iys always preferable to have some sort of context with a woman though, a reason to talk.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 11:57 AM
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As someone who preaches in person dating over online dating... I still think cold approaching is one of the absolute worst approaches. It has a miniscule success rate and you're much better off using your social circle, hobbies etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 11:51 AM
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I prefer organic and think it's preferable but it doesn't work for everyone and there's nothing wrong with someone choosing deliberate dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 12:29 PM
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It's logical to marry someone you are sexually attracted to,compatible with, enjoy spending time with and respect. My wife is 2 years younger than me. I can't imagine wanting to be with someone much younger with probably wildly different maturity level.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 03:07 PM
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Eh, in his case I am pretty sure a traumatic brain injury caused the personality change.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 10:37 PM
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I wouldn't go that far. I wish my mom raised me as a single mother instead of staying together for the kids. All depends on the situation. But in general, 2 parents best. I got 3 kids myself now, 2 bio and 1 adopted, they will always have 2 loving parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 09:31 PM
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I don't think it's a good idea for anyone to choose single parenthood. It's not good for kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 08:50 PM
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No. My wife is willing, but neither of us are a big fan. Anal is kind of gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 04:42 PM
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All 4 of your points have some truth. This demographic is definitely young, often high school, and the main concern seems to be sex. I'm with you though. I've never used online dating, or cold approaching, every relationship and casual sex I've had has come about organically while spending time with a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 11:09 AM
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Well, it is why it doesn't matter to some. We both got it "out of our system", we are both secure and confident about what we like, and we're ready for something serious
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 04:43 PM
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No lol. I'm glad she got to have some fun before me, it taught her what she likes and doesn't like and what she's looking for. I know she's not going to end up experiencing FOMO and regret not getting to experience other guys. Her past made her who she is. I have a past too. We like sharing crazy stories from our younger days... we Vonda over similar pasts.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 04:20 PM
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Sometimes even highschoolers are played by 30+ actors .
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 09:08 PM
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Yeah for sure, I realize she bounced back pretty quickly. I was more shocked at how long it can take women to heal from vaginally births.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 03:18 PM
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I'd do my wife's second birth in a heart beat lol. Planned c sections are surprisingly calm and relaxed affairs. No labor pains, no screaming. The recovery sucks, but she felt fine within a week. Her best friend gave birth vaginally a month earlier and it took her longer to heal from her tears than it did my wife to heal from her c section.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 02:29 PM
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It's a hard question. With the knowledge now of how fucking awesome my kids are and how much I love them? Yes. If you asked me before I experienced being a dad, it would be a hard no.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 02:16 PM
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Nope. I admire my wife for giving birth to our 2 kids, and not giving birth the usual way but getting cut open! She's a badass. Seriously had abdomen sliced open, a human removed, stapled back up... and was up walking around later. Amazing.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 02:12 PM
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Its not hard to understand that for most people being single is preferable to being in an unhappy relationship. Happy relationship --> single --> unhappy relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 03:50 PM
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I find flirting ans getting to know new people fun,so of course it's worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 02:33 PM
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I'd imagine any decent woman a guy would want to date wouldn't resort to using a dating agency.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 05:09 PM
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Both genders cheat at similar rates, its a valid fear for everyone... but jealousy and paranoia will backfire and ruin any chance of a healthy relationship. Unfortunately monogamous relationships involve being vulnerable and trusting and realizing it could happen. I've been cheated on, and I've cheated. I'm happily married now and I can honestly say I don't worry or fear it. I trust my wife completely.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 01:41 PM
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Your entire post, are you fucking with me? You said its what you need for women to find you attractive, it isn't. It's just easier to pretend it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 03:31 PM
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You didn't describe me, you described what men needed to be to get relationships. Those things are not necessary.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 03:27 PM
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I am nothing like what you described, but I've had multiple relationships, casual sex and am now married. It's cope to pretend all that is necessary.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 03:23 PM
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Sure. Women are just way too picky, it couldn't possibly be you. Much easier to just say it's their fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 03:15 PM
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Married a few years now, still plenty of sex and blowjobs, despite 3 kids and busy lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 03:13 PM
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That was kind of unrelated yeah, there's just so much rhetoric a out how average guys are doomed and will never get sex or a relationship, the usual incel doom and gloom, but you see below average guys with girlfriends all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 02:49 PM
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I think women are a lot more diverse than red pill gives them credit for. I think red pill under estimates how many decent women struggle with dating or settle with losers. My sister for instance, only likes meek prettyboy sort of feminine guys, and she's not alone in finding that type of man attractive, a lot of hearththrobs right now are more feminine men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 02:30 PM
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Yet everyone here thinks "be yourself" is bullshit and they have to be "what women want". Being genuine is attractive. Not being a suck up is attractive. I used to be one of those desperate guys sucking up to girls, trying to be what I thought they wanted... it's just pathetic though.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 05:09 PM
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Might be naive, but I'm not willing to change for a woman, so it doesn't matter if I know or not, my behavior won't change.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 04:57 PM
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2 incomes makes things easier than one. Children are hard at first, but they get easier, and they're kind of fun to have around.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 04:51 PM
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I guess I pass without even trying then.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 04:50 PM
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Then I guess I just naturally pass. What's an example of failing one.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 03:55 PM
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How is that better advice than just "don't date women who shit test you"? I've never been shit tested by my wife, that I know of.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 03:42 PM
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I wish I knew where they got this idea that average is so awful. I have a supportive, loving wife to come home to. Sex on a regular basis. We watch movies together, go camping and hiking, etc. We got some pretty cool kids. Why is it considered so bad? What would me getting in shape and getting richer and upgrading to some instagram modem wife really do ro improve my happiness?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 03:25 PM
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Then what is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 02:22 PM
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Where does the bux come from if it's just .. normal people? I'm married and not "alpha", but I am not sure if incels would consider me beta bux. My wife makes more than me and would be fine financially without me lol. I always took it to mean the woman using the man.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 01:56 PM
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Woman with a guy for money/stability and he pays for her shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 01:47 PM
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I thought it was when the woman is with the guy for money/stability and he pays for her shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 01:46 PM
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I don't even know a beta bucks. All my friends are in relationships or marriages where both partners have careers...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 01:06 PM
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It might get rid of the sadness temporarily, but making someone else responsible for your happiness won't create a healthy relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 12:34 PM
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I think you're bang on with your 3. Neither 2 work without the other. In all my relationships, until now, I've had 2 but struggled with one of the others. With my wife, all 3 are there, to an intense degree. I admire her, she's amazing, she feels like "home", I want to share every mundane detail with her and every new experience with her... and she turns me on like no one ever has. Being in love to me also means the person makes me better, not worse. I feel better, behave better etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 10:09 PM
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Women don't understand dick size at all. I think it's because they get lied to so often about it. Women always guess mine is about 2 full inches bigger than it actually is, sometimes insisting it must be, or saying I'm bigger than their ex and when they tell me his size, I'm smaller than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 12:14 PM
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Lol no one finds complaining about dating struggles remotely attractive. How is that even lumped in with men's rights? I'm a man, I care deeply about men's rights... but dating struggles is not part of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 04:43 PM
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Being in a relationship with someone you love makes sex important because sexual intimacy is one key to a healthy, lasting relationship. Sex can be important in some contexts and not in others. You seem to he willfully misunderstanding people.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 04:41 PM
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It's not a contradiction to say "at that time in my life I was satisfied with meaningless sex because I was si gle and sex was no big deal, but now that I love this person sex has become important".
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 04:34 PM
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Its okay to think casual sex is perfectly fine but in this moment want monogamy and meaningful sex. I'm a man, I've had casual sex, it was great, nothing wrong with it. That doesn't mean I wouldn't be able to prefer monogamy at this point in my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 04:25 PM
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I'm a guy and I always found this complaint weird. There's been times in my life I only wanted quick sex, and times I wanted a connection and something deeper. Is that not normal?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 10:27 PM
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That still doesn't matter. There is literally no point to calling a guy an 8 if women don't see him as an 8.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 01:04 PM
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When it comes to men finding sex/dates then how attractive women find them is all that matters. Who cares if a bunch of dudes, or their grandma, think they're a 7? It's meaningless if women see them as a 5.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 12:26 PM
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But if women who are potential matches aren't seeing the guy as a 9 then what is the point of using that rating?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 12:24 PM
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Maybe the ratings are just... wrong? If a guy is an 8 but women see him as a 6 then it sounds like he's actually a 6.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 12:14 PM
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It days they came close to sex after. I can't tell if you're just messing with me or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 04:38 PM
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"Disappointed, Shawn accepts it, but since he likes her a lot, he continues to date her." That's a terrible foundation for a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 04:30 PM
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In this scenario he is disappointed about having to wait and still tries anyway. They should break up for that reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 04:17 PM
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I agree 100%. I'm average as fuck, that's how I've gotten with every girl I've been with including my wife. I don't do apps, I don't do cold approaching... I have a healthy social circle and I find it easy to talk to girls the same way I talk to guys. I wonder if being bi helps me? But yeah I've dated classmates, friends, coworkers, friends of friends... any situation where I cam get good conversation going I feel like I can be successful.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 11:49 AM
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That part isn't infantilizing. Thinking she can't make her own decision to date an older man is. My wise is only 2 years younger than me, but I have a lot more life experience because I was raised in the city by absent parents and had freedom and fended for myself from a young age. She grew up spoiled in the suburbs. Having different levels of experience isn't necessarily an issue. Look, I internally judge those men seeking out young women as much as anyone else, I just try to remind myself cons…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 11:31 AM
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Yeah I actually hate the way we infantilize adult women in these scenarios. If a woman wants to date an older man, she's allowed to make that choice! Assuming she's being taken advantage of just because she's young (while still being an adult) is baseless.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 11:12 AM
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I was told to be confident and assertive.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 10:41 AM
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Through mutual friends/acquaintances. Of the women I've dated one was a classmate, one was a coworker, one was my sisters friend, one was a friend of a friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 03:21 PM
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The addiction thing is so true... My wife is a former WoW addict but at the time she'd never have admitted it. That shit is depressing.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 02:22 PM
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I'm a guy but based on what my female friends day it's that they're embarrassed hes doing something so childish instead of more "grown up" hobbies. Or that it means he helps less around the house since video games cam get addictive and take up a lot of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 02:15 PM
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So many dudes over rate their own attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 08:51 PM
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So find ways to control your anger dude lol they aren't attracted to you. It's nothing to get mad about.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 08:22 PM
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Right? Why even ask out women you find less attractive if it means you'll get angry if they say no?!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 08:04 PM
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Just because they think the woman is less attracted doesn't mean she has an inflated image for not being intetested in them lol. She might not find them attractive or is maybe turned off for other reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 08:02 PM
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How does this jive with the popular opinion on here that women are having tons of casual sex? I.e. 20 dicks before high school ends etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 03:04 PM
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I had a situation like that with a coworker for about a year. Started off as FWB then morphed into us basically being in a relationship but her refusing to label it. Eventually she started saying shit like "you're practically my boyfriend...". I ended it. I got tired of her being wishy washy about what we were.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 12:26 PM
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I am glad I'm not American.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 05:31 PM
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I'm a stereotypical millennial in a marriage where I'm an average as fuck looking guy with a beautiful wife, so I can't relate, but I can sympathize. Shit sounds miserable for younger guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 04:39 PM
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I often assume flirting is friendliness, they're sometimes hard to distinguish.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 10:29 PM
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No one should expect to be catered to. Deal with your own shit, it's more attractive. Don't pay mind to what other people do.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 10:28 PM
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It can't. It's pathetic to complain about it being "unfair". People want what they want. If you don't fit that, oh well, life isn't fair. It's better to learn how to achieve success in reality than wish women would lower their standards. All of the "just shame women!" and "government enforced monogamy!" is fantasy-land shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 05:06 PM
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I agree, it shouldn't become an obsession. My philosophy is work on myself, my passions and only chase the right women, the ones I can actually see myself with. If a chance at potential casual sex came up with someone I enjoyed, sure I'd make a move. Hitting on random women in the street has always been a "no" for me though.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 04:38 PM
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That's exactly what I've been suggesting. There's nothing wrong with making a move even if you're not sure there's a signal.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 04:28 PM
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Reading signs isn't an exact science to begin with, neither is giving signs. There's always going to be some doubt.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 04:24 PM
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Sure, probably more easily than men too. It isn't always fair. I have my share of mental health issues and have had a pretty average dating/sex life. Not blaming other people definitely helps your image when you're currently struggling with some intense shit. It's attractive to be introspective, stoic, take-charge etc rather than moping and blaming others.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 04:04 PM
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Only thing is, we aren’t able to get those women, so we must settle for what we can get which is sub-par women. You could do like a lot of women and just not have sex with people not up to your standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 04:01 PM
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I just know a lot of women who complain about men not being able to tell when they're being flirted with. It's a combination of men not noticing it and women being too subtle. Sometimes someone has to just take the risk and go for it anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 03:57 PM
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Some women fucking suck at giving signals. You'd miss out on some great opportunities by waiting for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 03:51 PM
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Most of us calling negging "banter" and it works quite well. The type of dude who calls it negging it usually pretty incompetent to begin with and gives the whole thing a way worse vibe than it needs.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 03:49 PM
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People give sympathy to victims of financial scams all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 03:45 PM
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I'm with you. I look at all my male friends and the majority are in relationships or married. I think a lot of the ones complaining about the sexless epidemic are quite young, often teenagers and don't realize a lot of people are just late bloomers.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 03:43 PM
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Losers of the lottery, however you call them, below average women shouldn't be entitled to quality men. Just like below average men shouldn't go for attractive women, of course. If you can get someone "out of your league", why not do it? Obviously is someone less attractive ends up with someone out of their league it means they have something to offer.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 03:42 PM
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problems struggling men face like confidence issues, social anxiety, depression, the feeling that they're never good enough These are actually pretty universal feelings among each gender. I agree women tend to not take them as seriously when men are the ones experiencing them though. I think it can be difficult to properly express those feelings as a man without coming off as entitled or whiny or blaming others. I never used to tell my fiance any of my insecurities because she complained about "…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 03:38 PM
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