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| – | What are red flags in men that women commonly miss?It's not an ad hominem. You've been kind of nasty with your responses from the get-go, so I'm not that inclined to even respond to you. But you're also acting as if I said something egregious when I carefully explained each point. It comes off less like principled disagreement and more like you just want to argue the point because you took it personally. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/26 05:29 AM |
| – | What are red flags in men that women commonly miss?Who knows what you're trying to say here. It's pretty obvious what I was saying... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/26 05:06 AM |
| – | What are red flags in men that women commonly miss?Sounds like you're triggered because that rule applies to you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/26 05:02 AM |
| 1 | “Just be happy single” is easy advice when singledom is optional.Your post is a little too gender neutral. You're clearly referring to advice given to women that self love means decentralizing men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/26 09:27 PM |
| 0 | What are red flags in men that women commonly miss?I explained what I meant. I was referring to men who are too liberal. Liberal =/= "hippy-dippy liberal". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/26 09:23 PM |
| 1 | What are red flags in men that women commonly miss?They might be, but that has nothing to do with what I said. I mean, some of this is evolutionary psychology. Without going too deep into it, the guy women might find sexually attractive and the guy who would make for a good provider and spouse and father to her potential children...often times aren't the same guy. This is just the more mainlined version of that. The responsible, stable guy who wants a family very often has a "conservative" streak in him. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/26 07:22 PM |
| -2 | What are red flags in men that women commonly miss?That's like saying "fidelity" is a personal preference. Everything I said has a personality trait attached to it that women often complain about it. It's not as simple as "don't date the guy who seems to be super aggressive and angry because he'll be like that with you". That's kind of rote at this point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/26 07:18 PM |
| 1 | What are red flags in men that women commonly miss?I actually laughed at this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/26 09:37 PM |
| -1 | What are red flags in men that women commonly miss?There are whole discussions online about liberal women who find dating hard because the Trump/MAGA types tend to also be the men who treat them the best. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/26 09:33 PM |
| 1 | What are red flags in men that women commonly miss?No, it doesn't. A red flag doesn't just indicate someone who is dangerous or unsafe. It can be a marker for incompatibility. These aren't "pet peeves". Women tend to think in these morally neutral terms and that's one of the reasons why they get blindsided by some of these traits after being in a relationship a year, getting married, having kids, etc. Everything I listed has a logical dead-end that women commonly complain about. Part of this list is just reverse engineering those complaints. Wom… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/26 05:24 PM |
| 1 | What are red flags in men that women commonly miss?How is this ragebait? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/26 05:19 PM |
| -1 | What are red flags in men that women commonly miss?I'd rather you guys contribute to the list than pick apart what I said. Not because I'm afraid to defend it or anything but this is a discussion thread, not a debate thread. So I'll be brief: The point is, potentially contentious subjects early on may muddy up the potential for a true connection. I'm not say never talk about those topics, but it's probably best to keep those initial connections fun and flirty. This is a thread about red flags in men. I said "Too possessive too soon". I'm talking… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/26 05:18 PM |
| 0 | What are red flags in men that women commonly miss?So a couple of things: This thread is aimed at men asking what red flags do we think women commonly miss. How certain behaviors translate to women is not necessarily how they will translate to men. I prefaced by saying my list was non-exhaustive. The overarching point is that women overlook these things in the beginning and then wind up complaining about these traits a year or two in but they swear he "wasn't like that in the beginning". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/26 05:05 PM |
| 1 | Most men don't understand what rape is because they think of women as less.Sorry for the late reply. I just meant that men don't feel women ever try to relate, understand, and empathize with our perspective. It's one thing to do that for the person you're in a relationship, but that's feelings-based, not actually based on actual empathy for men. I think women are socialized to believe that almost every point of contention can be fixed by men being coached up and treating women better, or having more sympathy, or more acceptance/tolerance of women. It's usually not in r… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/26 04:49 PM |
| 2 | Some women are avoiding relationships because of social anxietyI mean, you finding a small amount of men attractive just means you're a woman. There's more that goes into attracting women than just looks or what's on paper. And as I suspected, if you're not over an ex, that's why you're saying you won't lower your standards for a man because of the risk and the men you would want don't want you. The risk being "falling for someone and having them hurt you again". Raising the stakes to make the possibility of that happening again "worth it" next time... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/26 04:05 PM |
| 3 | Some women are avoiding relationships because of social anxietyOP is saying these women spend a lot of time poisoning the well, so to speak. It's like people who claim to hate President Trump but manage to work him into every conversation they have. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/26 03:56 PM |
| -5 | Some women are avoiding relationships because of social anxietyEh, no offense, but you sound either Alpha Widowed (haven't gotten over an ex/first love so you don't even try) or like you're low-key female identified (where you filter your preferences through the lens of what other women might consider a catch). It's easy to mask depression via candor. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/26 03:25 PM |
| 1 | When it comes to chores, it's not that men won't help out/pull their weight. Women just hate to see men relaxing.It specifically applies to women because, as another saying goes, women don't necessarily communicate well, they communicate a lot. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/26 02:50 PM |
| 0 | When it comes to chores, it's not that men won't help out/pull their weight. Women just hate to see men relaxing.Again: livable is relative. If a man isn't stressing about chores, he probably doesn't expect his woman to be either. But women take it as he's unbothered because he expects her to do it. And that's not the case. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/26 02:48 PM |
| 1 | When it comes to chores, it's not that men won't help out/pull their weight. Women just hate to see men relaxing.You have to do dishes, but not everyday. And my point isn't that chores are unnecessary or meaningless. I'm saying women place a lot more weight on the doing of chores and when largely because they resent doing them for a man, and because they don't want to see you relaxing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/26 02:46 PM |
| 6 | Most men don't understand what rape is because they think of women as less.Yeah, no. That would be the PUA community. Most of RP content is about self-improvement (fitness, finding your purpose, making money). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/26 08:17 PM |
| 1 | Most men don't understand what rape is because they think of women as less.What about what I just said is wrong? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/26 08:10 PM |
| 1 | Most men don't understand what rape is because they think of women as less.It's not for me to say. There's a difference between targeting a woman to try to have sex because she's drunk and having sex with a woman despite the fact that she's drunk (especially if the man is drunk as well). It's an ambiguous standard because there is no set limit as to what constitutes too drunk to consent. My point is in order for something to be rape it has to be established that someone does not consent and for that understanding to be ignored by someone else. Arguing that you're a vic… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/26 05:21 PM |
| 6 | Most men don't understand what rape is because they think of women as less.I think it's way less than that -- probably even half of that -- not to mention "toxic masculinity" as a concept has largely been taken out of context. But apart from that, I think the lack of respect you perceive really boils down to men not seeing any sense of empathy or respect from women, women wanting equality one minute then privilege the next, and, women wanting to pick and choose when they want to compete with men versus when they want to stand with us. You don't get to position yourself… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/26 03:30 PM |
| 1 | Most men don't understand what rape is because they think of women as less.It depends on what you categorize as "distrust or shaming in any capacity". I'm all for SA victims coming forward. But we can't act like basic questions like "when did this happen?", "what time?", where? is distrust and shaming. We can't act like fair questions like "if you had no interest in him, why did you go back to his apartment?" At what point in the act did you tell him you did not want to have sex? Questions like that get framed as victim-blaming when they're just getting to the bottom o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/26 03:25 PM |
| 3 | Most men don't understand what rape is because they think of women as less.But even with that...I don't think most men lack respect for women or don't get toxic masculinity. I think a lot of women view themselves as the more vulnerable sex -- which they are -- so they feel that exempts them from having to understand or empathize with men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/26 03:20 PM |
| 1 | Most men don't understand what rape is because they think of women as less.And see this is one of those things where they validated a woman's feelings and decided to expand the definition of something to corral more women's experiences into the victim field. Because that's not "coercion" because he asked more than once. If you went to the police and said you were raped and said, "he asked me to have sex, I said no, so he asked me again, I said no, then he asked me again I said 'okay fine, let's just get it over with'", they would have to politely tell you that that mea… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/26 03:11 PM |
| 3 | Most men don't understand what rape is because they think of women as less.Exactly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/26 03:07 PM |
| 2 | Most men don't understand what rape is because they think of women as less.Respectfully, I disagree. For men, in order for a woman to say she was assaulted, she has to demonstrate that she actually said "no" both in speech and actions. In the extreme, if it's just a girl walking back to her dorm from the library one night and a man accosts her, overpowers her, drags her off somewhere and SAs her, that is a clear violation through no fault of her own. Increasingly, that's not what we see. We see women get piss-ass drunk at parties, go back home with some dude thinking h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/26 03:04 PM |
| 1 | Most men don't understand what rape is because they think of women as less.I actually agree with you, but you do understand this cuts both ways, right? It's easy for women to lean into these expansive definitions of terms like rape/consent/misogyny/etc. because they don't have the same risk profile as men. Society doesn't expect women to court, pursue, and "win over" a man. It's not a complaint, but we incur said risk. Women just get to sit back and call us creepy if we're bad at it. And even when it comes to sex...men are the ones who are expected to lead that particu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/26 02:56 PM |
| 2 | Most men don't understand what rape is because they think of women as less.Well, we don't know how often men get lied on for rape. But that's beside the point since it does happen, and the possibility alone is enough to show some precaution for not investigating claims before buying into them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/26 02:52 PM |
| 1 | Most men don't understand what rape is because they think of women as less.Men view women as equal in value, but I think a lot of women resent the fact that you're meant to complement men, not compete with us. More men than women admit that yes, we need the opposite sex. We don't look at women as inferior. That said, having women try to run the same race as men all to prove a point doesn't benefit anybody in the long run. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/26 02:50 PM |
| 9 | Most men don't understand what rape is because they think of women as less.Men listening to women is kind of how a lot of men get played. I love getting women's feedback. The problem is most women can't get past their own biases as women to give actionable advice to men. If you operate under the assumption that women never really do anything wrong, they're always earnest in their actions, don't lie, don't cheat, don't manipulate, or lead men on...you're not going to be able to help men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/26 02:46 PM |
| 10 | Most men don't understand what rape is because they think of women as less.This is essentially the entire point of Red Pill/Manosphere content. It's demonized because sometimes women hear things they don't like about other women. They ignore the fact that it's meant to actually help men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/26 02:45 PM |
| 5 | Most men don't understand what rape is because they think of women as less.If only women had this same attitude when it comes to any of their insecurities that we as a society have had to care about. Guys like women who don't have mental health problems? Boo hoo. Guys like women who aren't chubby/obese? Tough shit. Guys like women with big boobs? It is what it is. We spent all the 2010s finding women's inner child and making her feel safe only for women to turn around and toss their hair at us when faced with any kind of male insecurity. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/26 02:39 PM |
| 0 | Most men don't understand what rape is because they think of women as less.Who's doing the, uh, shoving though? You don't hear men constantly complaining about being lonely. Maybe their dating woes or getting ghosted or how the apps suck, but the specific complaint of woe-is-me, I'm lonely? That's mostly women, and they're mostly bringing it up to mock men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/26 02:33 PM |
| 0 | Most men don't understand what rape is because they think of women as less.Exactly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/26 02:31 PM |
| 1 | When it comes to chores, it's not that men won't help out/pull their weight. Women just hate to see men relaxing.You don't realize your mentality is why women traditionally stayed home and worked while the men worked outside the home. Men simply don't look at chores that way. For one thing, we don't take on a bunch of stuff then complain about clutter and upkeep (e.g. pets, plants, etc.) Men tend to keep things fairly simple. Second, in the home we do chores when we get to them. If I'm dog tired from work but I need to something, I'm going to rest/take a nap first, then do it. Or let it wait until the next… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/26 01:34 PM |
| 1 | When it comes to chores, it's not that men won't help out/pull their weight. Women just hate to see men relaxing.The way you explain it sounds like a quid pro quo. If he's doing things just to keep you as his wife, that means there's no net benefit to being with you as his wife. It would be like a man saying if a woman wants to keep me as her husband, she has to help with yard work and pay half the bills. Maybe I'm being idealistic but I don't think that would register as love to a woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/26 01:26 PM |
| 2 | When it comes to chores, it's not that men won't help out/pull their weight. Women just hate to see men relaxing.I'm not saying most men are slobs; you are. I'm not talking about the difference between living in squalor and relatively clean. I'm saying certain chores really don't take away from the hygiene of the home in a meaningful way, so there's no reason to be anxious about it being done right now. If the dishes don't get done right after y'all finish eating dinner, are you going to wake up in a cesspool? No. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 10:30 PM |
| 0 | When it comes to chores, it's not that men won't help out/pull their weight. Women just hate to see men relaxing.Well, I do alright, but it's not that. I just tell the truth they would rather play coy about. Notice many women only admit to certain neuroses when they think it's a safe space to do so (i.e. when there are only other women around). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 10:26 PM |
| 1 | When it comes to chores, it's not that men won't help out/pull their weight. Women just hate to see men relaxing.Well yes, my post is about chores. Your post was saying women's quality of life and happiness by cohabitating with a man. Why? Because she might have to clean up behind him too? It's all downside living with a man because of that? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 10:21 PM |
| 1 | When it comes to chores, it's not that men won't help out/pull their weight. Women just hate to see men relaxing.Sounds a little cucked out bro. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 10:16 PM |
| 1 | When it comes to chores, it's not that men won't help out/pull their weight. Women just hate to see men relaxing.Yeah, can't say I've ever seen the groundswell of men who complain about their homes not being "spotless". It's easy to find women on social media complaining about their husbands relaxing being an ick, though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 10:15 PM |
| 1 | When it comes to chores, it's not that men won't help out/pull their weight. Women just hate to see men relaxing.Men look at home as a place for rest and relaxation regardless if a woman is there or not. He'll just have to do the chores himself, when he gets around to doing it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 10:13 PM |
| 1 | When it comes to chores, it's not that men won't help out/pull their weight. Women just hate to see men relaxing.Exactly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 10:08 PM |
| 2 | When it comes to chores, it's not that men won't help out/pull their weight. Women just hate to see men relaxing.But even if, it's funny how a man HAS TO do SOMETHING because otherwise he is a lazy bum, lol. If toilet doesn't need cleaning IT HAS TO BE cleaned, because a woman is breastfeeding RIGHT NOW. You see why I said if you let them talk eventually they'll tell on themselves? And, why I said they only let you relax when they can relax? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 10:05 PM |
| 1 | When it comes to chores, it's not that men won't help out/pull their weight. Women just hate to see men relaxing.Uh, yes? At least at that stage. Babies don't stay babies forever. There will come a time where he can step in and the work will be more 50/50 and can take the reins on some things. It's just in that season she might be doing more of the child care. It's no different than the fact that he is likely going to be working more outside the home than she is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 10:03 PM |
| 1 | When it comes to chores, it's not that men won't help out/pull their weight. Women just hate to see men relaxing.It's a biological hardwire. Go find me the dads who did as much if not more for an infant child than the mother (where the mother was present). It doesn't happen. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 10:01 PM |
| 1 | When it comes to chores, it's not that men won't help out/pull their weight. Women just hate to see men relaxing.Okay, it could be 65 and partly cloudy. Most people would still rather wash dishes by hand than go outside and do it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 09:59 PM |
| 1 | When it comes to chores, it's not that men won't help out/pull their weight. Women just hate to see men relaxing.I agree. I'm saying many women don't feel that way. YOU may not actually even feel that way, but I'll take you at your word. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 09:56 PM |
| 1 | When it comes to chores, it's not that men won't help out/pull their weight. Women just hate to see men relaxing.Men are happy to live in peace as someone else isn't disturbing it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 09:55 PM |
| 1 | When it comes to chores, it's not that men won't help out/pull their weight. Women just hate to see men relaxing.That's fair. To be honest, and I don't say this in a sexist kind of way, I think some of that might be less egregious than we let on. I've heard from some women who admittedly where more of the trad-wife sentiment that one of the ways they overcame the chore disparity is partially by accepting that their husbands can't and won't clean like they do. They said it's easier getting men to keep their mess to a minimum and just kind of pick up behind themselves than expect them to "keep house" like th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 09:52 PM |
| 1 | When it comes to chores, it's not that men won't help out/pull their weight. Women just hate to see men relaxing.I have had dogs/pets in the past (and plan to again). I do think you may need to clean daily depending on the breed, but that is a CHOICE made. Complaining that you are doing more work for a choice YOU made is ridiculous. If it's too much work, why did you take on the requirements/responsibilities of a dog (not saying you specifically)? Exactly. You can add plants, open shelving, tchotchkes, trinkets, and certain high-maintenance furniture to the "I bought because it looks nice now I resent havi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 09:44 PM |
| 1 | When it comes to chores, it's not that men won't help out/pull their weight. Women just hate to see men relaxing.This is tit-for-tat logic. Also, taking care of one's children is not a chore. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 09:39 PM |
| 1 | When it comes to chores, it's not that men won't help out/pull their weight. Women just hate to see men relaxing.Who's talking about living in filth though? I'm not talking about living in filth versus cleanliness. I'm saying not spending your nights and weekends stressing over cleaning up your place. Do a little each day when you can, do a deep clean or hire someone maybe once a month. No big deal. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 09:37 PM |
| 1 | When it comes to chores, it's not that men won't help out/pull their weight. Women just hate to see men relaxing.A guy who works every day could be the slobbiest slob who ever slobbed and still have the wherewithal to put together $150 bucks to have someone come and deep clean his place once a month. And my guess is his place would be as clean if not cleaner than the after woman who neurotically cleans all the time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 09:35 PM |
| 0 | When it comes to chores, it's not that men won't help out/pull their weight. Women just hate to see men relaxing.Granted I think women are judged more harshly if they don’t have a clean space. By whom? And if their living space isn't clean, who exactly is telling them it isn't clean? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 09:33 PM |
| 1 | When it comes to chores, it's not that men won't help out/pull their weight. Women just hate to see men relaxing.The gripe that women have is legitimate on some level, at least when she is busy with something but he’s just hanging out. Differences in cleanliness standards, and a sense of urgency definitely matter. No it's not. If a guy goes out in the hot sun and mows the lawn and comes in sweaty and see his wife sitting on the couch reading a book, do they think he mad dogs her when he walks past because she's "relaxing"? No. Women just look at us as utilities and not as people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 09:31 PM |
| 0 | When it comes to chores, it's not that men won't help out/pull their weight. Women just hate to see men relaxing.I want to give you an honest answer. Not early in the morning on his day off. Not on a day where he already has something planned. And not in place of something he actually wants to do. So if he wants to go shoot a round of golf with his buddies on Saturday, that's going to take precedence over "decluttering and organizing". Not every weekend, but most of them. When he helps you, please be pleasant and cheerful about it. Don't fuss, don't talk to him like a child or a foreman on a job site. Ask … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 09:26 PM |
| 2 | When it comes to chores, it's not that men won't help out/pull their weight. Women just hate to see men relaxing.If they see home as a place of relaxation as well, then they need to spend time doing that and not fussing about chores and who's doing what when and in what manner. Relax. If it's not something immediate, it'll get done when it gets done. That's how most men view chores. Women have different standards, which I get but that's also the basis of my point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 09:21 PM |
| 0 | When it comes to chores, it's not that men won't help out/pull their weight. Women just hate to see men relaxing.You think women look at home as a place for work instead of relaxation? I know they do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 09:18 PM |
| 0 | When it comes to chores, it's not that men won't help out/pull their weight. Women just hate to see men relaxing.No, it's because in aggregate there are different standards of cleanliness and chore schedules to the point where the woman's quality of life and happiness takes a noticeable hit cohabitating with a man. Because the only thing that matters in life are chores, right? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 09:17 PM |
| 1 | When it comes to chores, it's not that men won't help out/pull their weight. Women just hate to see men relaxing.So if you want to come home and relax after work and not do a bunch of chores, what is he going to do? Curse you out? Beat you? Divorce you? Or is he just gonna relax right along with you? If you order in, wait until the next day to load the dishwasher, and wait until the weekend to do laundry for the week, enlighten me as to what horrors will be visited on you by your demanding husband. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 09:13 PM |
| 2 | When it comes to chores, it's not that men won't help out/pull their weight. Women just hate to see men relaxing.It took a lot of discussions for us to get here, but if I'm doing a chore, my husband immediately starts doing another chore. It not only shows me that he sees me doing work for our home, but it also shows me he understands that it's just not me who should be doing the work. Again: Women are now coming forward and admitting that when they see their husbands relaxing or not doing anything, it annoys them or gives them anxiety. They want their husbands to relax when they're able to relax. I rest m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 09:08 PM |
| 1 | When it comes to chores, it's not that men won't help out/pull their weight. Women just hate to see men relaxing.That's not what I meant and I think you know that. I'm saying men wish their wives were as pedantic about making sure they have sex with their husbands as they are about doing dishes and making sure the trash goes out promptly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 08:18 PM |
| -4 | When it comes to chores, it's not that men won't help out/pull their weight. Women just hate to see men relaxing.It sounds like he just does what you say... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 08:15 PM |
| 2 | When it comes to chores, it's not that men won't help out/pull their weight. Women just hate to see men relaxing.Again, it's about practicality. I may buy 2-3 boxes of trash bags just so we'll have them there when they run out, or buy them when I see the current box is getting low. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 08:14 PM |
| 1 | When it comes to chores, it's not that men won't help out/pull their weight. Women just hate to see men relaxing.Most people would rather wash dishes by hand every day than go mow the lawn in 90 degree weather once. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 05:58 PM |
| 1 | When it comes to chores, it's not that men won't help out/pull their weight. Women just hate to see men relaxing.I totally get what he means. Most women don't apologize to men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 05:56 PM |
| 1 | When it comes to chores, it's not that men won't help out/pull their weight. Women just hate to see men relaxing.Taking your example: somehow he manages to do it though. Go relax with him. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 05:52 PM |
| 1 | When it comes to chores, it's not that men won't help out/pull their weight. Women just hate to see men relaxing.Is he not pulling his weight, or are you doing too much? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 05:51 PM |
| 1 | When it comes to chores, it's not that men won't help out/pull their weight. Women just hate to see men relaxing.Women are now coming forward and admitting that when they see their husbands relaxing or not doing anything, it annoys them or gives them anxiety. They want their husbands to relax when they're able to relax. I rest my case. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 05:51 PM |
| 1 | When it comes to chores, it's not that men won't help out/pull their weight. Women just hate to see men relaxing.If you go ask ten women you know, "do you feel anxious or even annoyed when you see your man just sitting around not doing anything", I guarantee you'll get at least of them who say yes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 05:49 PM |
| 1 | When it comes to chores, it's not that men won't help out/pull their weight. Women just hate to see men relaxing.I mean, but if we submit that women probably indulge in more aesthetics/decorative/superficial things, then that also explains why they might wind up doing more cleaning overall. People conflate tidiness and cleanliness when there's a crucial distinction to be made: men don't buy a bunch of stuff just because it's pretty. We believe in things that are functional first. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 05:45 PM |
| 0 | When it comes to chores, it's not that men won't help out/pull their weight. Women just hate to see men relaxing.Being in a neat space lowers cortisol, releases dopamine, improves sleep and increases productivity. Guess what else does those things that women somehow find negotiable... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 05:39 PM |
| 1 | When it comes to chores, it's not that men won't help out/pull their weight. Women just hate to see men relaxing.This is illustrating my point. He's not coming and "seeing" work that needs to be done. He comes home to relax. Chores needing to be done don't necessarily outweigh his need to recharge his battery. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 05:34 PM |
| 2 | When it comes to chores, it's not that men won't help out/pull their weight. Women just hate to see men relaxing.This is exactly my point. Doing something just so your spouse doesn't start complaining and nagging sounds like subtle manipulation as well. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 04:58 PM |
| 2 | When it comes to chores, it's not that men won't help out/pull their weight. Women just hate to see men relaxing.Totally agree. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 04:56 PM |
| 1 | When it comes to chores, it's not that men won't help out/pull their weight. Women just hate to see men relaxing.Make a chore calendar and treat it like going to work. Don’t wanna clean the bathrooms? Doesn’t matter, it’s Saturday morning you have to do it. This has helped me a lot because I know otherwise I’ll put it off long enough that my wife does it herself and that’s not sustainable. If only women treated sex like that... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 04:55 PM |
| -1 | When it comes to chores, it's not that men won't help out/pull their weight. Women just hate to see men relaxing.That's more of a practical need than what I'm talking about. If you don't do dishes or clean, yes the obvious question is what are going to eat on? I'm not talking about that, though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 04:53 PM |
| 1 | When it comes to chores, it's not that men won't help out/pull their weight. Women just hate to see men relaxing.I see what you mean, but men look at chores more practically and functionally than women. If the garbage needs to be taken out, he's going to take it out because it's full. He's not going to have a ton of anxiety and get super jazzed up about it being taken out right when the last takeout container hits the bag. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 04:52 PM |
| 2 | Do you believe women should cater more to men/be less selective?Exactly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/26 02:12 PM |
| 1 | Do you believe women should cater more to men/be less selective?No, women want to have high (see: unrealistic) standards for men and also not have men experience negative feelings about it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/26 02:12 PM |
| 4 | Do you believe women should cater more to men/be less selective?A lot of the frustration comes from people acknowledging that women are generally the more selective sex while simultaneously acting as if men and women face similar challenges in dating. They don't. That doesn't mean women are at fault for being selective. It just means the realities are different. Exactly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/26 01:56 PM |
| 1 | Progressives/feminists are more than happy to wield the toxic parts of patriarchy when telling “good men” to stand up to “locker room talk”Here's the issue: a lot of men won't do that because of the perception that women generally speaking dislike and kind of hate us. Sure that might not apply to your mom or sister or daughter or someone like that, but calling people out for the sake of women's feelings thing is contrived because it sounds like, well, simping. A lot of adopt the attitude of "as long as they're not talking about my loved one, it is what it is". I highly doubt the average woman who is exquisitely aware of misogyny si… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/26 01:07 AM |
| 2 | Progressives/feminists are more than happy to wield the toxic parts of patriarchy when telling “good men” to stand up to “locker room talk”Exactly. They also want the ability to do, say, and act however they want without being judged for it. Almost like children except these are grown women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/26 01:03 AM |
| 5 | Negative experiences can make it easy to assume the worst about an entire group, even when those experiences don't represent everyone.As a guy, I totally understand where you're coming from, and my heart does go out to women who feel pressured to make themselves physically available to men. I can empathize with it even if I can't fully relate, if that makes sense. What I would say boils down to three things, and I'll preface by saying none of these should be misconstrued as an "excuse": Some of that is how we're socialized as boys. We learn that sometimes begging...works. If we just dropped the issue every time our parents sai… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/26 06:16 PM |
| 1 | Misogyny comes from protecting women's social privilege, not negative experiences with womenLOL this is the point I'm making. These are behavior traits that many women display in their relationships. It may not be readily apparent to you as a woman because those same traits may not manifest themselves in a platonic relationship. But those traits are what cause a lot of friction in relationships. It's not a compatibility issue; some women just don't know how to act. The kicker is those traits are entirely forgivable and can be overcome but it takes actually taking some accountability fi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/26 02:20 PM |
| 1 | Misogyny comes from protecting women's social privilege, not negative experiences with womenI understand what you mean now. To be clear, I actually don't think true misogyny is all that rampant. I think women are really sensitive to being criticized and they take it personally and assume that we "hate" them whenever we call them out or hold them accountable. I think there's more actual misandry, to be honest. But that's another topic. To the extent that some men do hate women, I think a lot of it is bore out of them feeling diminished in service of women's aforementioned sensitivity. A… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/26 02:07 PM |
| 1 | Misogyny comes from protecting women's social privilege, not negative experiences with womenExactly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/26 01:57 PM |
| 0 | Misogyny comes from protecting women's social privilege, not negative experiences with womenArgument from personal incredulity. Doesn't matter if you can't personally relate. It's one thing to speak from your personal experience but to assume yours is the normative experience is kind of what I'm talking about. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/26 01:02 AM |
| 1 | Misogyny comes from protecting women's social privilege, not negative experiences with womenDid you read my OP? Because if you did you clearly see I said I wasn't a misogynist nor was I promoting it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/26 01:00 AM |
| 2 | Misogyny comes from protecting women's social privilege, not negative experiences with womenI disagree with this, but more than that, I actually think the inverse is true. Women want the loyalty, protection, and covering from men without submitting to any of the traits that would promote that kind of treatment. The whole "men can't handle competing with women" thing one minute, then "but I'm a girl help me" thing the next. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/26 12:59 AM |
| 1 | Misogyny comes from protecting women's social privilege, not negative experiences with womenWell, it depends on the context. I could level a few generic complaints about women, but I'm actually referring to a lot of specific complaints that people may have in their relationships. I think there's a place for generic complaints that some degree of truth to them, but I also understand how that might make women offended. I'm talking about when men get attacked or demonized to avoid a specific woman taking an L. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/26 12:57 AM |
| 1 | Misogyny comes from protecting women's social privilege, not negative experiences with womenFor women to complain about misogyny so much, there has to be something either about women or about misogynists that makes them attracted or attractive. Why waste time complaining about the attitudes of men you don't want in the first place? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/26 12:54 AM |
| 0 | Misogyny comes from protecting women's social privilege, not negative experiences with womenHere's a non-exhaustive list: Constantly putting your feelings/perspective as a woman ahead of his as a man. Empathy is a two-way street and if he always feels you've never willing to meet him in the middle, yet he's always meeting you there, it can be alienating which may cause him to start to pull away. Constant nagging/complaining/never being satisfied. A man is looking for a woman to be his partner; he's not going to tolerate your bratty behavior the way your father would. It's going to turn… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/26 12:47 AM |
| 2 | Misogyny comes from protecting women's social privilege, not negative experiences with womenIf you've ever heard a man complain about a woman and thought, "I bet he did something to make her act like that", try applying that same level of skepticism to women when they start complaining about men. And it doesn't even have to be vindictive, just understanding like "sweetheart you might've said/done something that rubbed that man the wrong way". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/26 12:36 AM |
| -1 | Misogyny comes from protecting women's social privilege, not negative experiences with womenNo, it's really not "everywhere". I mean, women take even mild critique personally so that's why it seems like it's all the time. If women had to deal with critique the way men deal with it, well, needless to say they couldn't handle it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/26 12:34 AM |
| 1 | Misogyny comes from protecting women's social privilege, not negative experiences with womenYeah, no. This whole chauvinistic "I can't handle a woman being better than me" thing might've been true in the 80s. Women have been claiming for forty years that men simply can't handle how great they are. It's usually the case that women can't handle that they really can't compete with men without a thumb being put on the scale, and a lot of women only reached their station in life through mandatory/forced fairness (hiring quotas, DEI, Title XI) and/or just being hot enough for guys to want th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/26 12:29 AM |
| 2 | Misogyny comes from protecting women's social privilege, not negative experiences with womenIf someone admitted they were misogynistic, like you did in the title, why would you expect women to put your claims in high regard? It's clear you didn't read my post. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/26 12:24 AM |
| 1 | Men need to let go of the need to constantly defend women whenever they are criticised.I agree with you but context matters as well. Part of the reason why it's annoying when men call themselves defending women is because, quite frankly, women don't do that for men. And while that might sound like tit-fot-tat, I'm not even saying they necessarily should. Women understand sometimes women get upset and say things out of emotion that they don't entirely mean, or they meant in the moment because it was a safe space to vent, or they said it in reference to one guy who hurt their feelin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/26 03:33 PM |
| 1 | Men need to let go of the need to constantly defend women whenever they are criticised.The notion that you assume we “defend women” because we want to get something out of it speaks more for your own motivations than anything. The men who "defend women" generally do want something out it: female validation. There's nothing wrong with having compassion for women or any other group of people. Compassion and empathy aren't inherently bad traits. The thing that's annoying is when men seem to eager and willing to betray their own perspective as a sop to women. Men know you probably hav… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/26 03:25 PM |
| 3 | It’s not that women don’t understand dating is hard for men. Is that men don’t understand they make dating hard for themselves..No, you either get men who are themselves or you get men who are good at playing the game. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/26 03:13 PM |
| 2 | It’s not that women don’t understand dating is hard for men. Is that men don’t understand they make dating hard for themselves..Sure. Those women are also RW and traditional. Different women are interested in different men. Mind blowing, I know. However, most women are leftist, and RW/traditional men are objects of disgust to us. Nope. There's zero evidence to support this absurd claim. And as a leftist women, I will ghost a dude at the slightest hint of conservative ideology. This is called argument from personal incredulity. You think because you would rather be alone than date a conservative that that automatically ap… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/26 03:45 AM |
| 1 | It’s not that women don’t understand dating is hard for men. Is that men don’t understand they make dating hard for themselves..I would quibble with that data. I think there are a lot of women who are attracted to the right-wing/red pill/manosphere types because they tend to believe in more traditional values. There are TikToks of liberal women complaining about how the guys who treat them the best are the Trump-voting Republican guys. I think a lot of women would rather date the liberal guy but when it comes to finding their person, a lot of women resign the idea that he's probably going to be more conservative-leaning. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/26 12:17 AM |
| 5 | It’s not that women don’t understand dating is hard for men. Is that men don’t understand they make dating hard for themselves..He said we're "expected" to care, which is true. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/26 12:12 AM |
| 7 | It’s not that women don’t understand dating is hard for men. Is that men don’t understand they make dating hard for themselves..Women do that too, though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/26 12:07 AM |
| 4 | It’s not that women don’t understand dating is hard for men. Is that men don’t understand they make dating hard for themselves..What infuriates men, however, is that we're supposed to have endless compassion for every minuscule problem a woman might encounter and act as their disposable servants. In return, we get scorn and demonization. Exactly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/26 12:06 AM |
| 2 | It’s not that women don’t understand dating is hard for men. Is that men don’t understand they make dating hard for themselves..Totally agree. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/26 12:04 AM |
| 2 | It’s not that women don’t understand dating is hard for men. Is that men don’t understand they make dating hard for themselves..What he said makes absolute sense when applied to women. Applied to men it just sounds like how a lot of women think men think. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/26 12:02 AM |
| 6 | It’s not that women don’t understand dating is hard for men. Is that men don’t understand they make dating hard for themselves..It's always funny when men accuse men of behaving the exact way women do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 04:38 PM |
| 20 | It’s not that women don’t understand dating is hard for men. Is that men don’t understand they make dating hard for themselves..This is another example of a woman providing the justification for something they claim to hate. The men who put work into being generally attractive and charming to women tend to eventually learn what to say and what to do. And you know what happens? They become the players and F-boys y'all complain about. They're the ones with the rotations and rosters of women and being in situationships and never actually committing. When men are just kinda themselves and normal and don't go out of their way… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 04:37 PM |
| 6 | Men aren't more critical of women ,we are just treating you equally and you don't like itI feel like "mansplaining" started when young women started getting spoken to a certain way by middle-aged men, typically in the workforce. I kind of get why it's annoying with the caveat that the Explain-y way older men use when talking to women is the same way they talk to a lot of young men too. The difference is men have evolved to listen and take instruction from older men. So to us it's just a mild annoyance, if that. To women it sounds like you're just talking down to them because you don… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 01:49 AM |
| 1 | Redpill guys will do anything to get women except being respectful to women.I'm saying you can't name a behavior that RP content ascribes to women that is entirely fabricated and only meant to put women down. And it's not right to say it "dehumanizes women" in general simply because a certain behavior doesn't apply to you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 01:36 AM |
| 3 | Redpill guys will do anything to get women except being respectful to women.And just about every woman has a story about a guy who was very respectful and respected her boundaries but she wasn't attracted to him like that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 01:30 AM |
| 4 | Redpill guys will do anything to get women except being respectful to women.I understand what you're saying but to be honest you're applying this to the wrong type of example. It's true a lot of guys have sent unsolicited photos of themselves to women. That's not because we're following the lead of one loudmouth guy who did it and found a woman who was actually turned on by it. It's because to men that kind of thing would turn us on. But what turns us on and what turns women on aren't the same thing. How this actually applies would be in listening to women when they tal… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 01:28 AM |
| 1 | Redpill guys will do anything to get women except being respectful to women.No, it's not. Because women will often do this thing where they will acknowledge that certain behavior that gets called out by RP content exists, it's just not all women, but then also turn around and act like it's some grave insult to womanhood to even point out bad behavior exhibited by women to any degree. It's like, which is it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 01:16 AM |
| 1 | Redpill guys will do anything to get women except being respectful to women.Yeah, unfortunately men have to live in a world where when you make enemies they will use the law to come after you simply to take you down. He's not a sex trafficker. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 12:49 AM |
| 2 | Redpill guys will do anything to get women except being respectful to women.More like it doesn't go out of its way to disrespect women. Whether women get offended by it is a different story. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/26 02:02 PM |
| 2 | Redpill guys will do anything to get women except being respectful to women.Nobody seeking or expecting "respect" should look to RP content for it because it's ultimately about telling the truth. Women conflate RP content with feminist rhetoric in that they think it only attacks women and otherwise coddles men, and that's not the case at all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/26 01:53 PM |
| -1 | Redpill guys will do anything to get women except being respectful to women.Aside from the fact that the media made Andrew Tate "the redpill poster boy", the funny thing is if you talk to virtually any woman who has actually met him, they talk about how respectful and kind he is in person. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/26 01:46 PM |
| 20 | Redpill guys will do anything to get women except being respectful to women.Exactly | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/26 01:34 PM |
| 8 | Redpill guys will do anything to get women except being respectful to women.Being likable is alot easier than working out and getting big money. Now, guys asking "What does it look like to be respectful" is already a red flag. But answer those questions, being agreeable, which the redpill has decided is beta male bullshit they wont engage in. For more traits to show, NOT saying something offensive, paying attention to women as people (NOT thinking AWALT), NOT seeing women as a means to an end (using women for sex, validation, etc), NOT EXPECTING A REWARD FOR BASIC HUMAN… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/26 01:30 PM |
| – | Women use chores to avoid submitting to menIt's an online forum. We have to speak in generalities because we're making general points. If you're going to take the time to get bent out of shape over a general comment, at least do one lap around the idea that it's said generally because it's meant generally. Not specifically. So if it doesn't apply, let it fly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/26 11:06 PM |
| – | Women use chores to avoid submitting to menYou would not be this sassy towards a woman who said she wants a provider male. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/26 11:04 PM |
| – | Women use chores to avoid submitting to menYou know how men say we don't care about a woman's degrees or job title or even salary? It's because we know that doesn't move the needle for us. It doesn't speak to the quality of spouse you would be to us if we got married. This is basically an extenuation of that. Men have needs, and they want a spouse who is going to prioritize those needs at least a decent amount of the time. And I mean this within reason, not like ignoring the crying baby in the next room, come rub my back. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/26 10:59 PM |
| – | Women use chores to avoid submitting to menJust make sure you tell all the women who are looking for husbands that they're better off being in a situationship where they can clean their own homes and cook their own food. Because that husband might turn out like me (gasp! shock! horror!) and expect them to do some of those things for him sometimes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/26 10:54 PM |
| – | Women use chores to avoid submitting to menIt's really not. But I can't make you be submissive, so it is what it is. Go read The Surrendered Wife. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/26 10:49 PM |
| – | Women use chores to avoid submitting to menThen I'll go cook dinner. ;) Like a submissive wife would. :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/26 10:43 PM |
| – | Women use chores to avoid submitting to menIf OP wanted to know or suggest that house keeping is not as big a deal as he feels some women make it and they should slack off on it and chill and men won't care, they could have said that in a less provocative way. Why can't you assume this is what I meant and not that what I really mean is men want a chef and bang maid? If a woman posted and said she wanted a provider male who didn't constantly complain about what goes along with that, would you assume she just wants a man to work, pay all t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/26 10:40 PM |
| – | Women use chores to avoid submitting to menNo, it's not. Not at all. The problem is people look at submission in this trad-wife-on-steroids "yes master I am here to serve you" kind of way, and it's not that. Submission is about 1) accepting what comes along with your role within the relationship, and 2) being willing to put someone else ahead of yourself. And this applies to the person you claim to want to be with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/26 10:37 PM |
| – | Women use chores to avoid submitting to menNot trolling at all. I might've been a bit too blunt, and I do apologize for that. But I'm serious about my overall point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/26 10:32 PM |
| – | Women use chores to avoid submitting to menIt depends on what she needs from him. The chores thing may represent an impasse because that's compromising her role as his helpmeet. What women need from men and what men need from women are different in some ways. I think the equivalent would be that a woman shouldn't let chores get in the way of meeting his needs the way a man shouldn't let work get in the way of meeting hers. Like there has to be some consideration made for both. Just like he doesn't want to hear about how you're too tired … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/26 10:31 PM |
| – | Women use chores to avoid submitting to menI look forward to the day when women stop thinking it's cute to imply a man is gay as a way to register their disagreement. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/26 10:27 PM |
| – | Women use chores to avoid submitting to menSo his having needs makes him a selfish jerk? Or are you just not equipped to fulfill said needs? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/26 10:26 PM |
| – | Women use chores to avoid submitting to menIf you're not wifely material, just say that, sweetheart. My point isn't at all egregious. It's saying, don't use chores to avoid giving your man what he needs. Those needs may not be what I mentioned specifically, but men want women who will prioritize his needs, and if certain things create a conundrum where you can't really fulfill both, you probably should default to his needs (especially if there's another way to get done what needs to get done, hence my point about hiring a housecleaner). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/26 10:24 PM |
| – | Women use chores to avoid submitting to menThat's sweet. Let me know how it works out for you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/26 10:19 PM |
| – | Women use chores to avoid submitting to menMy point was that those are things a man would ask of and expect from his spouse. He probably doesn't expect you to piddle around cleaning all the time to the point where it becomes this massive imposition on you to where doing the things he would want from you is now a burden. Case in point: if you told your husband, "babe, we can either make love or I spend the next half hour cleaning up under the bathroom sink, which one do you think he would choose"? And I mean "he" in the general sense, not… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/26 10:18 PM |
| – | Women use chores to avoid submitting to menAnd this would be why so many men would rather be in situationships than marry. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/26 10:14 PM |
| – | Women use chores to avoid submitting to menI meant that he may need some alone time to recharge his battery; not just being alone to avoid her. He needs a woman who understands and respects that, not takes it personally (like you're doing). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/26 10:11 PM |
| – | Women use chores to avoid submitting to menSome men are like this, which, by the way, can be kind of annoying. However, many men have strong, rigid feelings about gender roles and relationship dynamics. Those men are whip-crackers, or at least passive-aggressive. But he's probably as strict on himself as he is on his S/O. I mean, if he's saying let's go 50/50 on bills, but you do all the cooking and cleaning while I sit on my ass all day, that's a problem. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/26 10:09 PM |
| – | Women use chores to avoid submitting to menLesbian marriages have a higher divorce rate than heterosexual marriage and same-sex marriage between two men. So I mean, statistically speaking it's way easier to live with us than it is to live with you. Just sayin'. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/26 10:04 PM |
| – | Women use chores to avoid submitting to menWomen do have to submit in order to be an effective wife, though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/26 10:02 PM |
| – | Women use chores to avoid submitting to menIt's not that simple. What you said applies to a single man and a woman he's dating. If you're living together and both contributing to the hygiene of the home, it's not just about you picking up after yourself and not leaving messes for her to clean up all by herself. Women have different cleanliness standards than men. Women get bent out of shape about uncleanliness in a way men tend not to. And, the truth is, there has to be some benefit to being with her beyond sex. We sort of permit women t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/26 10:00 PM |
| – | Women use chores to avoid submitting to menThat what goes into loving on and actually keeping a man. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/26 09:54 PM |
| 1 | The manospheres biggest lieI said "due to having a man", not "due to living off a man". My guess is even career women have more financial stability by having a man. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/26 08:05 PM |
| 3 | The manospheres biggest lieI think women are just doing a lot of consumer-facing to other women to show how unbothered they are by not having a man or children. In reality, most women want both, and lead unfulfilled lives by not having them. I also believe that many more women are going to start leading worse off lives in the coming years because of what they did choose: "lifestyle" and careerism over family. Historically it was men who worked themselves into the ground just to provide for their families. Women foregoing … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/26 05:18 PM |
| 1 | The manospheres biggest lieI would argue the most financially stable women probably are due to having a man. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/26 05:07 PM |
| 1 | The manospheres biggest lieMy guess is wistful regret also accounts for much of the parenthood regret as well. People sacrifice educational goals, pursuing their dreams, travel, hanging out with friends, etc. to create a stable life for their children. Once your children grow up and start leaving the nest, a lot of people have a certain amount of regret because they don't have the same opportunities and time they had when they were young. The issue is, I think fewer and fewer people are going to have the regret that comes… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/26 04:59 PM |
| 2 | The manospheres biggest lieIn the given example, you're probably right. But a fifty year old man who is unmarried with no kids probably long ago put to bed the notion of him having children, so he wouldn't be looking to a 30 year old to give him children. On the flip side and more realistically, a 35 year old man isn't necessarily looking for a 35 year old woman if he wants kids. Because she's going to want them right away (for obvious reasons), but he's probably not going to want to rush into it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/26 06:47 PM |
| – | It sounds like victim blaming because some men are usually the first offender against themselvesNo. This principle applies to everyone. And adults have the right to make decisions about their risk tolerance, engage in risky behaviors when they choose, and still receive compassion instead of blame when they fall victim to the odds. The issue is you're conflating "taking responsibility" and "taking the blame". They're not the same thing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/26 06:42 PM |
| – | It sounds like victim blaming because some men are usually the first offender against themselvesBut that's what the OP is saying and why I say it's infantilizing women. You don't get bypass good sense or common sense to do whatever you want, then get the "support" for being a victim. Usually the qualifier here is when a woman is mature enough to own up to her lapse in judgment or error in her decision-making. But if she just instantly goes to "I'm the victim, feel sorry for me" mode the second something happens, and there was a clear mistake on her part she seems to have zero interest in o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/26 06:39 PM |
| 2 | The manospheres biggest lieNo they don't. Even women's version of "single" is different from men's version of "single". Most women could not and cannot deal with "single man" single. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/26 06:34 PM |
| 2 | The manospheres biggest lieYou're taking a few things for granted. First of all, time does not work the same way for women as it does for men. Just because men en masse are still traditionally minded, that doesn't mean they're working on the same timetable as women. So the risk profile for men in that age range is a bit different than it is for women. And while women can still find a partner in their 30s and 40s, the truth is the men at that age probably aren't looking for women their same age, especially if he desires to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/26 05:34 PM |
| – | It sounds like victim blaming because some men are usually the first offender against themselvesI have no need to draw some kind of distinction between a victim and a victim-ier victim (your "pure victim"). Because you're infantilizing women instead of expecting them to behave like adults. What OP is saying is fairly straightfoward: you can't go through life not being proactively safe just because people should do the right thing. You have to deal with reality on reality's terms. People shouldn't steal; does that mean none of us should lock our doors at night? No. If someone robs you, are … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/26 03:48 PM |
| 5 | Why do men complain about women choosing assholes but simultaneously shame men who are simps and treat women with kindness?Red Pill isn't responsible for teaching men that. Women do that. Notice the men who abuse and cheat on women are always the men they picked for themselves. How much do women incentivize men who are nice and respectful to them versus the men who are toxic towards them? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/26 06:19 PM |
| 1 | Why do men complain about women choosing assholes but simultaneously shame men who are simps and treat women with kindness?Exactly. And on the flip side, RPers don't want to hear women complain about and disrespect their husbands for not being assertive and take charge enough when she did everything she could to beat all the alpha out of him when they were dating and first married because she didn't want to feel like she was submitting to a man (because feminism told her that's the patriarchy) but then she realizes her being in charge all the time is exhausting so now she wants a "real man". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/26 06:15 PM |
| 0 | Why do men complain about women choosing assholes but simultaneously shame men who are simps and treat women with kindness?A lot of the reason “assholes” seem more successful with women is because they usually ask out more women, take rejection less personally, and do not obsess over one specific woman immediately. That confidence and emotional detachment can come across as attractive. But many men confuse confidence and boundaries with cruelty or indifference. It is similar to how women are often called “bitches” simply for being direct or assertive, even when they are not being cruel at all. A lot of men experienc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/26 06:06 PM |
| -2 | Why do men complain about women choosing assholes but simultaneously shame men who are simps and treat women with kindness?On the contrary, what I see is any woman being remotely nice to men and not performing the anti-male spiel is called a pick-me. Facts. Way easier for a girl to qualify as a "pick-me" to women than for a guy to qualify as a "simp" to men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/26 05:54 PM |
| – | Question for lesbian/bi women of reddit. What was your "EUREKA" moment when you start dating other women did you notice that you finally start understanding mens issues?I'm pretty sure it was the mixed message of being invited inside to make out only for the girl to only want to talk, not really make out. She even says in the video (and in a disclaimer in the comments, IIRC) that she totally respected her boundaries and wasn't expecting anything, she was just disappointed because the invite said one thing but the party was another, if you catch my drift. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/26 02:51 PM |
| 2 | Question for lesbian/bi women of reddit. What was your "EUREKA" moment when you start dating other women did you notice that you finally start understanding mens issues?I understand what you're saying but it's not that simple. A lot of men wind up relationships because, well, at the end of the day women need men. It can take them a long time to realize and admit it, but they do. So the level of a man's attractiveness becomes secondary to his usefulness. Which means that yes many men have an opportunity to get into a relationship, but not one based on a woman actually wanting him. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/26 03:29 PM |
| 3 | Question for lesbian/bi women of reddit. What was your "EUREKA" moment when you start dating other women did you notice that you finally start understanding mens issues?Respectfully, this is more a result of you being a woman than women being easier to date. The reason I say that is because there's typically less pressure between women regarding sex and when and how to escalate. It's not necessarily about women not sleeping with us soon enough; it's that we know if or when it happens we're going to have to more than likely lead that encounter. I don't know if you ever heard about Nora Vincent, the lesbian journalist who spent a year living as a man. One thing s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/26 03:21 PM |
| – | young men were not a priority until the red pill came along. Suddenly they need to be "protected" Selective Righteousness and Narrative Caontrol.Aside from the fact that they can't handle it because it is a myth...that's not necessarily RP rhetoric. Sticking with the example, an RP argument would go something like, "feminists complain about earning less based on an oversimplified comparison that's been repeated ad nauseum in the mainstream media to help push certain broader policy agendas like DEI. Also, the feminists who complain about equal pay seem to conveniently disregard the expectation that men have to be the breadwinners of socie… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/26 02:59 PM |
| – | young men were not a priority until the red pill came along. Suddenly they need to be "protected" Selective Righteousness and Narrative Caontrol.Men giving up their health and youth to marry ungrateful women who think it's their "job" to do so. Whole time these same women view themselves as interchangeable to men and want the benefits of hiring quotas, DEI, and the like. If the system wants to treat men like they're disposable, men should stop actively feeding it and stop sacrificing themselves less. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/26 12:45 AM |
| 8 | Women keep reframing RP observations as men trying to control womenJust be sure to keep that same tough shit/life’s not fair/that’s on them energy when women start complaining about the men they chose… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/26 09:21 AM |
| 3 | Women keep reframing RP observations as men trying to control womenHow is this a societal ill? The only ones they hurt are themselves or significantly reduce their options which in dating is a good thing if you are looking for monogamous partnership. "I will only date a man with a lucrative career in finance" but they live in a blue collar Midwest town? People will have preferences while dating whether or NOT someone thinks they should have them. Yeah and if you multiply that times hundreds of thousands if not millions that how you get a population crisis, it's… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/26 10:19 PM |
| 1 | Women keep reframing RP observations as men trying to control womenI never said women don't ask men out. I said we don't expect women to ask men out irrespective of their attractiveness. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/26 09:59 PM |
| 5 | Women keep reframing RP observations as men trying to control womenConsidering how many women get abused, cheated on or assaulted etc ...by men they chose to be with. Oh, that's victim-blaming. My bad. Continue... I think there’s ALOT more validity in their social critique because they were actually wronged. ...by men they chose to be with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/26 11:11 AM |
| 2 | Women keep reframing RP observations as men trying to control womenIt's not that simple. The poster is saying RP observations that ring as misogynistic and hateful and bitter are reflective of men's collective experiences with dating. The "comparison is the thief of joy" point you made is true but the false comparison here is the men who seem to complain and the men who don't. The other thing to consider is the risk profile is the same for men who women like and don't like. As a matter of fact, it may be a little higher for the men women dislike. Average lookin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/26 11:02 AM |
| 8 | Women keep reframing RP observations as men trying to control womenBut the thing is men ARE mad about women having standards. And Red Pill really emphasizes that. Anger phase is a thing. Men feel contempt that women have standards and choose. Yeah, no. Sorry, this is flatly wrong and it's something a lot of women misunderstand about the RP space. "Red Pill Rage" is largely when dudes first start to realize how they have been raised and socialized is a lie due to what they see happening around them. A lot of men were raised to "do the right thing" only to arrive… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/26 06:07 AM |
| 5 | Women keep reframing RP observations as men trying to control womenNot to mention framing women's preferences as some societal ill. Women are too picky. Women only want the top percent of men. Average men never stand a chance. It's because of hoeflation or whatever you call it. Women want to date someone they are attracted to? This isn't some moral pearl clutching moment. If we are going to enter a sexual relationship there should be sexual desire (what you find sexually desirable will vary) . And RP men seem to be in an uproar about it. Making grand judgements… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/26 05:56 AM |
| 2 | We need to stop saying there are good women out there if they only care about womenWell I don't know of a bunch of women I'd consider "pick-mes" who have been humiliated by "blindly supporting their husbands", considering that's what you're supposed to do to some extent. But that's also kind of beside the point. I'm talking about women who understand, support, and defend good men. I don't think there's a trend of those women being humiliated by doing so. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/03/26 06:45 PM |
| 1 | We need to stop saying there are good women out there if they only care about womenThe point you made has an actual answer that goes beyond me standing up for women. I'm not saying women deserve to be mistreated but the solution to that for many women is to pick different men. It would be the solution for men if the same issue applied, but like I explained it typically doesn't work the same way for men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/03/26 06:42 PM |
| 1 | We need to stop saying there are good women out there if they only care about womenBroken sexual selection. Women have sexual selection over men; men don't have sexual selection over women. Women have sex with who they want to; men have sex with who we get to. Also, women tend to only engage with a small subsection of men and use the behavior of those men to make blanket assumptions about all men. It's not like 80% of men only converge on the top 10-20% of women and then when those women aren't faithful or only care about money accuse all women of being that way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/03/26 06:06 PM |
| 1 | We need to stop saying there are good women out there if they only care about womenSee what I mean, guys? This is all you get from the good women. "I mean, yeah, there are bad women out there". Oh gee, thanks ma'am. You're reeeeally calling it down the middle there. It doesn't take much to acknowledge a truism about the nature of mankind. That's just surface level logic. I'm talking about where you truly understand that women are flawed and do good men wrong just like men are flawed and do good women wrong. The discernment I'm talking about it isn't just acknowledging that, bu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/03/26 05:54 PM |
| 1 | We need to stop saying there are good women out there if they only care about womenThe difference is men try to be fair and at least understand where women are coming from. The issue for most women is they don't "see" the good men because they're not attracted to them. So they might as well not even exist irrespective of their character. Men are supposed to ignore the "vocal minority" of women who hate and bash men and are toxic towards men because there are plenty of good women out there, allegedly. But even assuming they exist, those women do next to nothing to extend an oli… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/03/26 05:47 PM |
| 1 | We need to stop saying there are good women out there if they only care about women"Anything less than effusive adoration" = "hatred of women". Got it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/03/26 05:43 PM |
| 0 | We need to stop saying there are good women out there if they only care about womenI don't think it's shocking to you at all. Think about it: how many women do you respect who routinely defend men or the male perspective when it comes to dating and relationships? If you say "a lot" I know that's a lie. I don't mean women who defend "men" vis-a-vis their husbands or fathers. I mean women who can look at certain common issues between men and women, emphasize with the male perspective, and will defend that perspective. You know, kind of like how the blue pill men do for women? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/03/26 05:37 PM |
| 2 | We need to stop saying there are good women out there if they only care about womenExactly. Racism doesn't have to be systemic in order for it to still be racism. At the end of the day, hatred is still hatred. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/03/26 05:31 PM |
| 1 | We need to stop saying there are good women out there if they only care about womenIt's only weird because women aren't used to having to do it in order to get male attention. In reality, men do this all this time. Imagine a man wanting a girlfriend but also being thoroughly unconcerned about what women find attractive. And not just physically attractive, but personality-wise as well. "Oh, women like a man who's emotionally available and mature? Phbbt. So what? Who cares what they like?" See how crazy that sounds? So yes, part of being one of those "good women" is taking time … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/03/26 05:29 PM |
| 1 | We need to stop saying there are good women out there if they only care about womenYes, it's clear you're not trying to be insulting... When it's sad that there are good women out there, that's said to men to encourage them to keep looking and not just write off women and relationships. But the thing is, "good women" en masse don't seem to want to do much of anything to endear themselves to men or attract those men. So it makes it kind of pointless to say that when they're more interested in endearing themselves to other women. I haven't said anything about physical attractive… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/03/26 05:23 PM |
| -1 | We need to stop saying there are good women out there if they only care about womenThe word I used was "endear", not "attract". I'm saying if all the "good women" are doing is defending women indiscriminately, there's no point is saying they exist when their entire M.O. is to put womankind on their backs and hold it down for the sisterhood. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/03/26 11:33 AM |
| 0 | We need to stop saying there are good women out there if they only care about womenExactly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/03/26 07:51 AM |
| 0 | We need to stop saying there are good women out there if they only care about womenI thought Pearl had a boyfriend | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/03/26 07:49 AM |
| -12 | We need to stop saying there are good women out there if they only care about womenI would ask how their existence moves the needle if they have little to no interest in endearing themselves to men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/03/26 02:17 AM |
| – | We need to stop saying there are good women out there if they only care about womenWhatever that means. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/03/26 02:14 AM |
| -2 | Childless liberal women have guaranteed an illiberal future by selfishly not spreading their legs.Third issue: It's downright hypocritical and illiberal to dump the breeding burden on conservative women, treating them like unwilling "broodmares" while you sip lattes in childfree bliss. If liberalism means female autonomy, how does exploiting other women fit that bill? Subtly powerful argument you made here. I hope all childfree women let that one swish around their heads for a few minutes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/26 08:37 PM |
| 1 | The male loneliness epidemic seems to only produce women complaining about not being in a relationshipI think women will stay in a meh/bad relationship with a guy they're attracted to than tough it out with a man they're only medium attracted to. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/26 11:26 PM |
| 1 | The male loneliness epidemic seems to only produce women complaining about not being in a relationshipWhy is it so hard for some men to believe that women sincerely prefer being single to being in a relationship that doesn’t meet her needs? Why can’t you understand that if our lives are better with a specific man than without him, we will happily by with him. If not? We prefer not to be. I can buy that about women, I just think at a certain point women stop kidding themselves and admit they want a man in their lives. I think sometimes certain things women call "needs" are tied to other things ou… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/26 11:21 PM |
| 1 | Lack of maturity is women's biggest problem in relationshipsWhatever. I'm honestly not here to tell women who or what they should find attractive. I'm just saying they have to accept the tradeoffs that come with having certain preferences, chasing after those preferences, or holding out until they find someone who meets them. When she winds up on a dude's roster of women he's only dating and sleeping with casually; when she winds up getting low-effort/bare minimum treatment because she's just another conquest for a guy who already gets plenty of attentio… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/26 06:15 PM |
| 1 | Lack of maturity is women's biggest problem in relationshipsWhile I definitely agree that women also bear responsibility in a relationship, generally speaking, phrases like “If he wanted to, he would,” are pushback against the hyperresponsibility women often feel in the area of relationships, and to encourage women to let go of men who just clearly don’t give a shit instead of trying to change him. This is not an example of “morally black and white” thinking, it’s deciding not to “try to make things work with the wrong man.” Understandable, but this is t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/26 06:06 PM |
| 1 | Lack of maturity is women's biggest problem in relationshipsYes, y'all do. All the time. No, we don't. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/26 05:56 PM |
| 0 | Lack of maturity is women's biggest problem in relationshipsNo, they're not. Women want what they want and don't want to be corrected. Fine, but that might also mean she picked WRONG, not that there's something wrong with choosing at all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/26 05:54 PM |
| 3 | Women have far too much of an in-group bias to ever have fair discourseTotally true. Women will always argue their feminine bias. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/26 06:34 PM |
| 2 | Lack of maturity is women's biggest problem in relationshipslol ok | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/26 06:32 PM |
| 0 | Lack of maturity is women's biggest problem in relationshipsMen and women have equal value for sure, but we're wired differently. We have different priorities. My point isn't to say women are uniquely obligated to do one task or another, it's more about accepting domains within the relationship. I keep going back to this word, but: complementarity. If the woman is much neater and tidier than the man, she'll probably wind up doing more of the housework due to her caring more about it. If he's better at doing yardwork and routine maintenance, he'll probabl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/26 06:30 PM |
| -3 | Lack of maturity is women's biggest problem in relationshipsThe covering and protection of a man. Physical and non-physical intimacy, Provisioning. A healthy relationship for your children (if you have them). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/26 06:13 PM |
| 0 | Lack of maturity is women's biggest problem in relationshipsMen aren't demonizing women by simply stating what women do and how they think. It's not something men need to "lead" on. If most women find most men undesirable for one reason or another, I'm not saying women are bad for that, but I am saying they need to be clear about their selectiveness if they're going to complain about their treatment by men. Not saying we should, necessarily, but it's way easier for men to generalize about women because we don't write off 2/3 of women as not even being wo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/26 06:05 PM |
| 1 | Lack of maturity is women's biggest problem in relationshipsNo, but tell the whole story. Tell about how you have all these standards and boundaries and checklists and all that and what happened when you found that guy, or be honest about the fact that you didn't find him because he doesn't exist. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/26 06:01 PM |
| -4 | Lack of maturity is women's biggest problem in relationshipsBy "submission", I mean submitting to a man's frame and submitting to the role you play in his life. This should not be a negative thing and it really shouldn't be all that difficult, but it may take a willful attempt to do so if it doesn't come naturally. It's more about how masculinity and femininity are meant to complement one another than the idea that a man is just supposed to order around his woman. Well, no offense, but most men aren't led by their emotions the way women are. Having feeli… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/26 05:57 PM |
| -2 | Lack of maturity is women's biggest problem in relationshipsWell, it's a little off-topic but here's a partial list: Understand and accept that what you as a woman get out of romantic relationships and sex are in some vital ways different than what men get out of romantic relationships and sex. Understand that relationships are built on compassion and compromise and empathy, not only for you but for your partner. You can't expect him to "fix" every problem in your relationship as a show that he loves you. Your agreeableness and submission is as essential… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/26 05:10 PM |
| -4 | Lack of maturity is women's biggest problem in relationshipsUndesirable men aren't the ones deluded about their desirability, in part because no one tells men they're entitled to get what they want. Undesirable women on the other hand...? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/26 04:44 PM |
| -1 | Lack of maturity is women's biggest problem in relationshipsY'all seem to think that if women just self reflect that they'll suddenly pick a man she isn't interested because he's interested in her. Au contraire. I don't expect that at all. I'm on record as saying women shouldn't settle for a man they truly don't want. Don't do anybody any favors. No, what I hope will happen is women will 1) stop demonizing all men because the men they choose turn out to be duds, 2) stop demonizing all men for impressionable women who are still looking for love and want t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/26 04:43 PM |
| 0 | Lack of maturity is women's biggest problem in relationshipsYour petulant questions aside, the reason you might consider that is because there may be more truth than you care to acknowledge. The point is it may not just be an insult; it could be the truth. Whether you care or not is a different story, but I'm saying sometimes when someone says something less than flattering, they're just saying it to hurt your feelings. They're just stating what they've countenanced. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/26 04:36 PM |
| 2 | Lack of maturity is women's biggest problem in relationshipsIt doesn't seem to stop you all from leaning into that, though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/26 04:34 PM |
| -3 | Lack of maturity is women's biggest problem in relationshipsI don't know where you're from, but expectation and reality are not always the same thing. I would argue women are expected to take on primary child care especially when they have babies, and the bulk of the housework if their husbands work full-time and pay most of the bills. The fact that women "have to" work full time jobs in addition to the above is due to feminism, not unequal societal expectation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/26 04:33 PM |
| -17 | Lack of maturity is women's biggest problem in relationshipsNo, you really don't. And you're kind of proving my point here. You're framing being told you're being too shallow, demanding, and picky as hardships instead of considering it's just wisdom. Instead of just being offended, how often do you think women consider if they are too shallow, too picky, too demanding, etc? And do you think the "you're a Queen, you deserve the best" side reinforces introspection or self-delusion? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/26 02:47 PM |
| -9 | Lack of maturity is women's biggest problem in relationshipsBro I don't think you're listening very well, or maybe I'm not explaining myself very well. No offense but you're asking me to basically retype my OP at this point and I think I was pretty clear. All I'm saying is immaturity is (in part) not accepting the tradeoffs that come with getting what you want. I'm keeping it open-ended because it depends on what someone wants. I'll give this only as an analogy as there are plenty of others: if a woman wants a man who can afford to pay most, if not all o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/26 02:42 PM |
| 1 | Lack of maturity is women's biggest problem in relationshipsThe point is, as a society we tend to placate women instead of giving them feedback that might not be most touchy-feely, but it is logically sound. I think there are Big Girl lessons that women need to learn prior to getting involved with men and sex and dating and all that, but they don't because people want to keep women in a perpetual state of extended adolescence. Where she's prone to make certain mistakes but they're moreso dispositive of age and maturity than character. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/26 02:35 PM |
| -15 | Lack of maturity is women's biggest problem in relationshipsThe immaturity is in neither anticipating nor accepting the tradeoffs that come with getting what you want and assuming it's an issue with the world and not a natural consequence of pursuing and getting the thing you want. To a mature person, the tradeoffs/sacrifices/side effects are almost as important as getting whatever it is you want. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/26 02:27 PM |
| -12 | Lack of maturity is women's biggest problem in relationshipsI think I said more than that, but the maturity aspect, or lack thereof, comes from not anticipating and not accepting the tradeoffs that come with getting what you want and what you choose to prioritize. Again, this is plainly true when applied to men. If a wealthy man constantly lead with his net worth and his material possessions when courting a woman, would we really take him seriously if he sat around lamenting the fact that he keeps running into gold-diggers? Or would we say, "uh, you're t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/26 02:17 PM |
| 0 | Lack of maturity is women's biggest problem in relationshipsI don't think this really applies to my OP, but I will say most men don't waste time complaining about "women's selectiveness". The guy you described knows he's not God's gift to women. Nobody's telling him he's a King and he deserves the supermodel of his dreams just because he's really that guy. When guys complain, it's about women saying they want one thing but then defaulting to throwing themselves at the first guy with money or the first tall they see. But then when they get into with these… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/26 02:11 PM |
| – | Ladies, If you’re not attracted to 90-95% of men, that’s not a male problem.. thats a YOU problemI think some people are taking OP's use of the word "problem" too literally. It means, if you find a small subsection of men you encounter attractive enough to give the time of day, that's probably not a failure of men to present themselves well or an overall lack of eligible men. IMHO, when I hear women express this sentiment, I think it's usually one of four things: 1) Depression/Body Shame (doesn't find anybody attractive because she doesn't find herself attractive) 2) In love with another ma… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/26 02:03 PM |
| 10 | Men need to have higher standards.I actually agree. It's not the women with too high standards; it's the men with not high enough standards. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/26 09:53 AM |
| 2 | Never settle” has slowly morphed into “never compromiseIt's not compromising on relationships; it's compromising on points of attraction that ultimately have nothing to with compatibility or relationship quality. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/26 09:50 AM |
| 1 | Never settle” has slowly morphed into “never compromiseThe non-negotiable characteristics are much harder to come by. Finding a man who adds to your peace that you’ve already established as a single woman, who doesn’t have toxic, anti-women ideologies, who actively supports you and your success without getting insecure, who is highly emotionally intelligent, has potential to be an excellent father, has secure finances, shares your moral outlook, believes the same things in life are important to you both, isn’t someone who you will have to clean up a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/26 09:20 AM |
| – | Dating older men (like 10 plus years older) is simply a bad deal for most womenMen typically decline quicker with age because they spend their best years working to provide for their family. Women tend to carry less burden overall -- let them tell it they carry all of it -- which is why women have longer life spans. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/26 05:20 PM |
| 0 | Women have more friends than men because men need less attention than womenWomen say a lot of things, I'm talking about how they act. Just because women claim to want something doesn't mean they fully accept the tradeoffs. It's just like a lot of women wanting a man with money. OK, fine. But when many of them get that man who makes good money they get blindsided by the fact that he has to work and might not have a ton of extra time to give her all this attention so they start resenting him for it. Same with women wanting men with a nice physique (and I can attest to th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/26 05:44 PM |
| 0 | Women have more friends than men because men need less attention than womenIt's kind of one-in-the-same with women though. The amount of women who trauma/emotionally dump versus the number of women who actually admit to doing it is 100:1 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/26 05:37 PM |
| 1 | Women have more friends than men because men need less attention than womenNo you really can't. Most men who even kind of red pill aware see the clear psy-op with the male loneliness epidemic narrative. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/26 05:35 PM |
| -1 | Women have more friends than men because men need less attention than womenIs your wife more introverted than you when it comes to people in general or in the sense that you're the one with all the friends while she doesn't talk to anybody but you? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/26 05:34 PM |
| -1 | Women have more friends than men because men need less attention than womenI love when people's brains lock up because they think one or two exceptions disprove a trend. Specifically what did I write that just sounds completely bogus to you? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/26 05:32 PM |
| 0 | Women have more friends than men because men need less attention than womenUh, people and schedules don't work that way for the obvious and not-so-obvious reasons. My point is that men don't care about their woman spending time with her girlfriends; women care a lot if they feel like their men's attention is being divided between her and his friends. Your point makes more sense (pertaining to what I'm saying) if put in reverse. When he's watching the game, playing the game, or hanging out with his buddies, why can't she spend time with her friends? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/26 05:30 PM |
| 0 | Women have more friends than men because men need less attention than womenMen can have hobbies, but primarily hobbies that occupy his time when his S/O is tired of him always being around. Men having a social circle of people he makes time for in addition to her? Most women don't go for that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/26 12:50 AM |
| -1 | Women have more friends than men because men need less attention than womenFacts. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/25 10:24 PM |
| 1 | Women have more friends than men because men need less attention than womenIt's not gender neutral because there isn't a rush to appropriate it when men cause women to withdraw from their friend group. Plenty of guys don't go out and hang out with their friends because they know their S/O is gonna cop an attitude and complain if they do, so they don't. Let a woman say she can't go to brunch because her man doesn't want her to. Howls and cries from the peanut gallery about him being an abuser. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/25 10:22 PM |
| 1 | Women have more friends than men because men need less attention than womenSo basically, what I said was absolutely correct. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/25 10:19 PM |
| -3 | Women have more friends than men because men need less attention than womenI'm sure they are, but I'm also sure you spend a lot of time talking about feelings and concerns and worries and problems with them too...whether you realize it or not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/25 10:17 PM |
| -2 | Women have more friends than men because men need less attention than women"Over sexualize women"? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/25 10:15 PM |
| 0 | Women have more friends than men because men need less attention than womenPretty much. It's interesting that you only hear women and blue pill dudes talking about the male loneliness epidemic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/25 10:15 PM |
| -1 | Women have more friends than men because men need less attention than women😮💨🙋🏽♂️ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/25 10:12 PM |
| 0 | Domestic labor being a point of contention in marriages is the fault of feminism, not menWhatever. My point is most men would not be opposed to that if it's completely reasonable and if they're being honest about their motivation to clean up. BTW using money to save you time and energy is a much better use of your resources than just buying stuff to make you happy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/25 06:59 PM |
| 1 | Domestic labor being a point of contention in marriages is the fault of feminism, not menNow you're trolling. Because I never said that. I said domesticity is a big reason why men choose women to do life with. Most men aren't marrying women just because she has a fire LinkedIn page. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/25 12:46 AM |
| 1 | Domestic labor being a point of contention in marriages is the fault of feminism, not menAnd yet the labor force is still predominantly male, men still work longer hours, harder jobs, and thus earn more than women outside the home. The tide turning doesn't mean the opposite is now true. It also doesn't mean women don't actively seek the patriarchal ideal of the man being the sole or primary breadwinner. Women just don't realize they're a big part of the reason more of them can't find that man. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/25 12:45 AM |
| 1 | Current dating is unfair for men because of woman have rid themselves of the responsibility that comes with the privileges they have, while men still have to still take on the responsibilities of theirsUh, I don't think it's the men who are complaining about coffee dates. It's the women who want a fancy steakhouse first date because it signifies he's "serious". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/25 12:30 AM |
| 1 | Current dating is unfair for men because of woman have rid themselves of the responsibility that comes with the privileges they have, while men still have to still take on the responsibilities of theirsPretty sure I made a very similar point about two weeks ago and people said I was advocating grooming. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/25 12:23 AM |
| 1 | Men misinterpreted “I choose the bear” because they’re media illiterate or so defensive they chose willful obtusenessSo I think there are two issues with this. First of all, when you hear about these stories, there should be an understanding that you don't hear the entire story. I know that might sound like a facile objection when there's violence involved, but one thing I've noticed especially over the past few years is women thinking it's okay to blatantly disrespect men. I don't take violence against women lightly but I think it should be said that women need to understand you can't just say and do whatever… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/25 12:16 AM |
| 1 | Domestic labor being a point of contention in marriages is the fault of feminism, not menYeah, because he married her to be a wife and mother. But the courts just look at her as a woman with kids who doesn't work. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/25 07:30 PM |
| 0 | Domestic labor being a point of contention in marriages is the fault of feminism, not menI was giving an analogy of what men DON'T do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/25 07:27 PM |
| 1 | Domestic labor being a point of contention in marriages is the fault of feminism, not menIf anything women are MORE and MORE focused on how much money a man earns. You may not realize this sense you're a woman, but this whole thing of "women just want emotionally available men who pick up after themselves" is BS. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/25 07:03 PM |
| 0 | Domestic labor being a point of contention in marriages is the fault of feminism, not menSome SAHMs hold up their end of the bargain, but many of them complain because their husbands aren't doing his job and hers too. Again, men want the same commitment to your role as he is committed to his. Doesn't mean all-or-nothing absolutes, but just a general acceptance of one's role. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/25 06:59 PM |
| -1 | Domestic labor being a point of contention in marriages is the fault of feminism, not menYou can't seriously believe women are thriving if women also expect a provider male to come in and marry them. If women were truly thriving, they would not be so hung up on a man's provisioning and how much money he makes and what his career goals are. They would be fine with an emotionally mature, emotionally intelligent man and worry about all that other stuff later. But of course, that sounds ridiculous because these are biological hardwires. On the flip side, men don't get soft, feminine, tr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/25 06:57 PM |
| 1 | Domestic labor being a point of contention in marriages is the fault of feminism, not menOf course it's not but that's enough to get yourself out of a bad situation and give yourself some time to plot your next move, if necessary. I would also suggest a SAHM perhaps consider taking an online course or certification once her kids aren't infants and demand all her time. Keeping your time occupied will also keep you from dwelling on petty things. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/25 06:50 PM |
| 0 | Domestic labor being a point of contention in marriages is the fault of feminism, not men*"*but domesticity is one of the main reasons men will marry a woman. If he’s getting a woman who wants ti turn the house into a home, he’ll marry her." LMAO. Wait, wait, are you serious? Men here constantly downplay and disparage any of the work that women put into turning a house into a home. They call it wasted time and wasted effort and wasted expense. I don't see men "constantly downplay and disparage any of the work that women put into turning a house into a home" because that would make t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/25 06:48 PM |
| 0 | Domestic labor being a point of contention in marriages is the fault of feminism, not menNot to anywhere near the same extent as they do now. Women worked menial jobs but they weren't expected to be breadwinners. And even then, a lot of that was due to there being money to be made. Women didn't forego husbands and children all for the sake of their careers. That's fairly recent (3rd wave feminism) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/25 06:43 PM |
| 0 | Domestic labor being a point of contention in marriages is the fault of feminism, not menYeah, sorry. Same point applies, though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/25 06:41 PM |
| 0 | Domestic labor being a point of contention in marriages is the fault of feminism, not men"Have a stable job" is men's version of bare minimum. It's not a selling point. A man will marry the fry girl at Wendy's if she's got wifely qualities. You think a dude who works at Wendy's is getting chicks because he's super handy with Chlorox Wipes? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/25 06:40 PM |
| 0 | Domestic labor being a point of contention in marriages is the fault of feminism, not menNotice the thing you left out was "how to be a wife to a man". Men haven't fought every advancement made by women. That's silly. If anything, men have been incredibly accommodating of it. The problem is women want to compete with men one minute, then benefit off men the next. In my honest opinion, men respect assertive, aggressive, career-driven women AND they respect soft, feminine, traditional women about equally. The only thing that makes men resent women is when they refuse to accept the tra… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/25 06:35 PM |
| -2 | Domestic labor being a point of contention in marriages is the fault of feminism, not menNo, we wouldn't, because men are not wired the same as women. Not to mention there's no point in fighting for something women would never go for despite their "fair is fair/50-50" rhetoric. Men naturally have more of the traits it takes to thrive in the work force than women. Women enjoy the perks of it -- namely not feeling beholden to a man and making money -- but the actual grind of breadwinning? Most women resent it after a while, especially once children come into the picture. Men attain re… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/25 06:18 PM |
| 0 | Domestic labor being a point of contention in marriages is the fault of feminism, not menI don't offer receipts just because. This is a debate not a book report. Are you saying the exact opposite is true -- that women historically have died sooner and have a weaker relationship with their kids? Like be for real. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/25 06:14 PM |
| 0 | Domestic labor being a point of contention in marriages is the fault of feminism, not menThe issue is this idea of speaking in absolutes. Most of the time men don't expect their wives to do everything around the house while he does absolutely nothing but go to work and come home. Where the disconnect comes in is women think it's their husband's role to maintain their standard of cleanliness and work on their timetable. It's when she thinks her priorities are the only ones that matter. And, sometimes, women never stop to ask if they're overextending themselves, they only resent it be… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/25 06:13 PM |
| 1 | Domestic labor being a point of contention in marriages is the fault of feminism, not menMy point is women always tend to benefit from the benevolence of the government more than men. Which isn't a problem in and of itself, it's just that they're in denial of it, and they think it's a coincidence and not the entire point. Part of the reason women are outpacing men is because we've told two generations of young men to just go figure it out. Go figure out how to be a man. How to thrive. How to succeed. How to love a woman. And if you fail, oh well. Tough. Get up and keep trying becaus… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/25 06:06 PM |
| 0 | Domestic labor being a point of contention in marriages is the fault of feminism, not menBecause you're only considering yourself. Most women don't have to worry about a man only wanting to marry them because he wants access to her money and lifestyle. This is why even rich and successful women have a hard time finding a man. Because what men want is what men want. It's only oppressive because women don't want to fulfill that role. Not saying they have to, just that if you're going to want the man, you don't get to negotiate key reasons why he might be attracted to you. Most men are… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/25 06:02 PM |
| 0 | Domestic labor being a point of contention in marriages is the fault of feminism, not menWe literally do not know the world in which women didn’t work. So to point to the past and be like “haha well ya’ll wanted this huh?” Is weird to me. I think you missed my point. I'm saying women can't have one foot in traditionalism -- they're hyperfocused on a man's salary and career trajectory, expect a man to be the breadwinner and provider and leader -- while having the other foot in modernity -- real men cook and clean and do laundry and take care of the kids because they respect their wiv… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/25 05:48 PM |
| 0 | Domestic labor being a point of contention in marriages is the fault of feminism, not menNot a maid, a wife. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/25 05:44 PM |
| 1 | Domestic labor being a point of contention in marriages is the fault of feminism, not menYou're still missing the point. "Fair share" is what roommates and girlfriends want. Wives understand complementarity, balancing things out. I understand it's not exactly an apples-to-apples comparison because some of these things aren't done on a daily basis, but if a man accepts that keeping the yard in reasonable condition, having to fix (or hire someone to repair) the cars and things around the house, and a lot of the physically demanding labor around the house falls on him...he accepts that… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/25 05:42 PM |
| 1 | Domestic labor being a point of contention in marriages is the fault of feminism, not menWhy do women immediately go to this weird power dynamic when it comes time for them to actually do something for a man? And not just any man, their husband? Imagine if a man was this cynical about anything he did for you. I have to listen to my wife complain about her problems like I'm some kind of shrink UGH! I have to compliment her and tell her she's pretty...I guess that I means I'm some kind of groupie now JEEZ! Oh, she wants me to be a provider? What am I, her DAD? I thought I was marrying… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/25 05:37 PM |
| 0 | Domestic labor being a point of contention in marriages is the fault of feminism, not menThey also lived longer and had a stronger relationship with their children. But who cares, right? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/25 05:34 PM |
| 0 | Domestic labor being a point of contention in marriages is the fault of feminism, not menThe difference between women working and men working is the cultural expectation that the man be the provider and breadwinner. Yes women have worked outside the home, but collectively we haven't expected women to shoulder the bulk of the financial burden of the home. Case in point: even though the primary recipients of Social Security are women, many of them are drawing based on their husband's income. The expectation is that a man has to build himself up and earn money to provide for his family… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/25 05:31 PM |
| 0 | Domestic labor being a point of contention in marriages is the fault of feminism, not menAll of that is possible because of Daddy Government. It's not like women are way smarter and more hard-working than men and that's why they're outpacing them by some metrics. It's because the thumb has been put on the scale for women time and time again. The government subsidizes student loans so it's available to people to take out tens of thousands of dollars to get a degree. Women are able to go into corporate America and make somewhat equal salaries because the government subsidizes corporat… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/25 05:21 PM |
| 1 | Domestic labor being a point of contention in marriages is the fault of feminism, not menLiterally every man I've ever known who was a SAHD for a period of time has said the same thing. Like, "this is it?" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/25 05:15 PM |
| 0 | Domestic labor being a point of contention in marriages is the fault of feminism, not menI'm not saying this to be mean but this post is a little hard to understand. It's like you're missing context to what you're saying, or clipping off the point. I don't know. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/25 05:13 PM |
| 1 | Domestic labor being a point of contention in marriages is the fault of feminism, not menWell, that's partially why I said what I did about feminism. The difference is men have always wanted to do that -- come home from a long day's work and kick their feet up and relax. Women are the ones who got restless with working in the home. Women are the ones who wanted to work outside the home. I get it to a degree but women getting what they want is one thing; expecting men to all of a sudden override generations of socialization to accommodate women's newfound ambition is another. Men's e… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/25 05:11 PM |
| 0 | Domestic labor being a point of contention in marriages is the fault of feminism, not menThere's actually a fairly simple way around this. The woman should work to save up $20K-30K, live at home, and when she meets a man she wants to marry, sign a prenup so that her savings remain with her. If she has to get out of there, she'll have a little piece of money to do so. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/25 05:04 PM |
| -1 | Domestic labor being a point of contention in marriages is the fault of feminism, not menYou would be surprised how many men wouldn't mind if their wives didn't have to work if it meant he got someone committed to cooking, cleaning, and primary child care. But most men know women aren't going to hold up their end of the bargain so they don't even broach the subject. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/25 05:02 PM |
| -4 | Domestic labor being a point of contention in marriages is the fault of feminism, not menPlot twist: what if that cultural conditioning was really just to make you beholden to The Man as opposed to your husband? Pouring into your husband so he can pour into your family is seen as beneath women. Fighting traffic and working in that cubicle is fulfillment though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/25 04:59 PM |
| – | Once females become adults it’s probably too late to learn relationship skillsThey're not complaining about the onus being put on them to provide, they're saying it in relation to the tradeoff involved. Some women act like because they're doing the bulk of the housework that they're shouldering the entire family and relationship and they're not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/25 08:41 PM |
| 0 | Once females become adults it’s probably too late to learn relationship skillsWhy is it a revenge fantasy just because women can't run the same play in perpetuity? There are a lot of guys in their 20s who are not looking for a harem of women. They just want a girlfriend. But they have to deal with girls who are fickle and don't want to be tied down and just want to enjoy their 20s. OK cool. So those guys they just have to do the best they can and hopefully focus on other things (i.e. work) and see what happens. When men who spent a good amount of their 20s single or activ… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/25 11:41 PM |
| 0 | Once females become adults it’s probably too late to learn relationship skillsIt doesn't matter what the percentage is. You don't hear men constantly complaining about being providers to any great extent. If he has a wife who upholds her end of the bargain most guys are good. The same doesn't apply to women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/25 11:34 PM |
| 0 | Once females become adults it’s probably too late to learn relationship skillsYou also don't teach them to be relied upon men for their sense of worth. We're talking about her worth within the context of a relationship. Generally speaking, a man isn't going to look to a woman to provide financial and economic stability for him. He's not going to look for it and most women are not trying to "provide" for a man in that way. You don't get to dictate what the opposite sex finds attractive. It is what it is. A woman can choose not to "play the game", so to speak, but she also … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/25 11:31 PM |
| -1 | Once females become adults it’s probably too late to learn relationship skillsYeah, the idea of "grooming" is about teaching someone to exist in a particular element, typically criminal. Saying you want to raise someone to be a good husband/father/wife/mother isn't what most people would consider grooming simply because some people may not want to do it. If they choose to forego marriage and/or children, that's their choice. But that doesn't mean raising them to be good at those roles is wrong. It's literally the bedrock of our civilization and survival as a species. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/25 11:24 PM |
| 1 | Once females become adults it’s probably too late to learn relationship skillsHow is the OP silly? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/25 06:00 PM |
| -1 | Once females become adults it’s probably too late to learn relationship skillsI'm not saying that's women's only value. I'm saying there are certain relationship skills that women should learn while they're being raised to avoid leading a lifetime of relationship drama as an adult. Again, I'm basing this on the fact that we will give women a list of red flags and tell them to set standards and not settle, but we rarely if ever talk about what is reasonable to expect from a woman in a relationship, what are red flags in women men should avoid (and telling women not to be t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/25 05:59 PM |
| 2 | Once females become adults it’s probably too late to learn relationship skillsIf I were talking about something sexual, you would have a point. Relationship skills and values as it pertains to your future spouse and children isn't problematic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/25 05:55 PM |
| 0 | Once females become adults it’s probably too late to learn relationship skillsUh huh. Michael Sartain has a clip about this same thing. Where the hot 22 year olds didn't want to settle down because they had options turn into the 35 year olds wondering why the successful men in their 40s don't want to settle down. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/25 05:42 PM |
| -1 | Once females become adults it’s probably too late to learn relationship skillsYou act like I said parents need to teach their daughters how to give blowjobs. I'm saying if she's old enough for you tell her how boys should treat her, what she should expect from a man, how a man should make her feel, what a man should and shouldn't do...I'm saying you also need to tell her how she should talk to and treat a man and how to be in a relationship. Leaving the part where you have to actually coach up the girls on how to act up to chance is how you get grown women who say goofy t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/25 05:40 PM |
| -1 | Once females become adults it’s probably too late to learn relationship skillsMost of them? Men usually only become resentful of being the sole provider when their wives aren't holding up their end of the deal. The second she gets mad she doesn't want to cook, doesn't want to clean, doesn't want to have sex, doesn't want to talk to him -- but those bills better get paid on the first. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/25 05:35 PM |
| 0 | Once females become adults it’s probably too late to learn relationship skillsGlad you asked! The thing a lot of people miss about my point is that many of the skills women need to exist in a healthy relationship are not all that different than what makes a good mother. Patience, kindness, predictability, resilience, the ability to compromise, empathy -- these are things a man would want in a wife and a mother. Even when it comes to maintaining a home. Women used to be taught how to do that. They used to have a class in school on it (Home Ec.). Funny how as Home Ec starte… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/25 05:29 PM |
| 1 | Once females become adults it’s probably too late to learn relationship skillsAll while every podcast bro under the sun preaches that women belong in the kitchen and have to have their rights revoked. And this is a lie. Most guys aren't looking for the trad-wife thing to any serious extent. Yes, in a nostalgic, idyllic sense, it would be nice to have a wife who stayed home, cooked, cleaned, and did it with a smile. But reality is most of us have to work, and homes get dirty, and people don't feel like cooking so they DoorDash their meals, etc. Women love to ignore the pro… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/25 04:36 PM |
| 1 | Once females become adults it’s probably too late to learn relationship skillsYou conveniently sidestepped his point. Not only are boys taught those things, you hear women all the time telling boy moms to teach their sons to have "respect for women". But teach your daughters have to have "respect for men" and it's all of a sudden a bad thing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/25 04:29 PM |
| 0 | Once females become adults it’s probably too late to learn relationship skillsNobody said anything about "grooming", for starters. It's funny how whenever we talk about setting an example early for what a woman will come to want, it's looked at as toxic. If I said I wanted to raise sons to one day be good husbands and fathers, nobody would bat an eye. Apply the same logic to a girl and it's "grooming". OK bro. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/25 04:27 PM |
| 0 | Once females become adults it’s probably too late to learn relationship skillsYou act like being an adult is being a wife are two vastly different concepts. I'm not saying raise your daughters to be solely reliant and dependent on a man for their every need. But the part of life where she may want to be in a relationship with might require a different mindset. If you don't teach them to be wives, then don't teach them to expect a man to be a provider and protector either. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/25 04:22 PM |
| -2 | Once females become adults it’s probably too late to learn relationship skills"A good man to build with" is probably going to want a woman who seems to have wifely/maternal skills and instincts though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/25 04:19 PM |
| 1 | Once females become adults it’s probably too late to learn relationship skillsAnd in twenty years they're going to be wondering why they can't find or keep one.🤷 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/25 04:16 PM |
| -1 | Once females become adults it’s probably too late to learn relationship skillsWhere did I say anything about porn stars? I'm saying part of a girl's rearing should entail understanding how to be in a relationship...given that she very well might want to be in one. If you can tell her what she should expect from a man, why can't you tell her what's reasonable to be expected by a man? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/25 04:14 PM |
| 3 | What standards should men and women actually look for in someone they want to date?I think women should look for a man who takes being a protector and provider seriously. Who takes himself and his livelihood seriously (within reason). A God-fearing man she can Do Life with. Someone she can communicate with and know he hears her. Also, she has to be willing to let him lead and be willing to follow and understand what those things entail. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/25 04:02 AM |
| 1 | Why demand emotional numbness from men and then complain when we go cold?There's a lot of truth to this. A lot of women look at any point of contention with a man as some degree of anger. I also think that's why they get cutesy about it and call men sassy when they voice disagreement or argue their point at all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/25 07:33 PM |
| 1 | Why demand emotional numbness from men and then complain when we go cold?I think he's saying we process women's feelings as her own emotions whereas we tend to process men's feelings by how a woman is impacted by them. If a woman is angry and a man says she's "lashing out", a lot of people, male and female, will say he needs to not be so quick to judge and consider her feelings. The inverse of that is a woman gets to categorize male anger "lashing out" and many people, again male and female, will say he needs to get better at regulating his emotions and communicating… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/25 07:12 PM |
| 1 | Why demand emotional numbness from men and then complain when we go cold?Even if that were true, wrong way to indicate you want somebody to talk dirty to you. Like be for real. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/25 06:50 PM |
| 0 | Why do red pillers try to use the "force doctrine"?Exactly right. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/25 06:39 PM |
| 0 | Why do red pillers try to use the "force doctrine"?Exactly. Couldn't have said it better myself. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/25 06:33 PM |
| 1 | The lesbian divorce rate debunks a lot of the complaints wives have about their husbandsBecause you can't have perfect. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/25 07:23 PM |
| 1 | The lesbian divorce rate debunks a lot of the complaints wives have about their husbandsThat's actually not a flex. Funny how that epiphany comes up after it's legalized, but being hyper-independent but wanting to marry someone all so you can leave when you're not willing to work through issues anymore is kind of shitty, not to mention the fact that hyper-independence itself is actually bore out of a certain amount of trauma. All they're doing is imprinting that trauma onto someone else, not acting out of self-love and self-preservation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/25 07:19 PM |
| 1 | The lesbian divorce rate debunks a lot of the complaints wives have about their husbandsJust curious what arguments you think lead to being beat on in a lesbian relationship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/25 07:11 PM |
| 0 | The lesbian divorce rate debunks a lot of the complaints wives have about their husbandsMaybe. And maybe men make shit husbands. Hence the reason for this thread. Women have even less success with other women. Who's the common denominator here? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/25 07:09 PM |
| 0 | The lesbian divorce rate debunks a lot of the complaints wives have about their husbandsWomen leave otherwise good marriages all the time. There are TikToks of women talking about this. "Good" and "perfect" are not the same thing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/25 07:04 PM |
| 1 | The lesbian divorce rate debunks a lot of the complaints wives have about their husbandsThe fact that some women call virtually everything "abuse" these days doesn't lend credence to this. Not that women don't ever suffer from abuse, but women play victim a lot to the point where you don't know if it's real or not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/25 06:40 PM |
| 2 | The lesbian divorce rate debunks a lot of the complaints wives have about their husbandsYou do understand making excuses like they married too early or the lack of religion or conservative values isn't exactly a justification for divorce, right? The "too early" thing is a weird one because if anything time doesn't work for women the way it does for men, lesbian or not. But whose fault is it they marry "too early"? Had Christian conservatives said any of those things prior to gay marriage being legalized people would've called it homophobia. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/25 06:07 PM |
| 2 | The lesbian divorce rate debunks a lot of the complaints wives have about their husbandsIf that were a major caveat, my guess is they would establish that. There's nothing problematic about the implication that men are violent towards women. Women being violent towards women is still taboo because we don't want to offend the LGBTQ community. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/25 03:59 PM |
| 10 | The lesbian divorce rate debunks a lot of the complaints wives have about their husbandsThe whole taking of vows thing, perhaps? Not sure if you're married but doing the cut and run thing when the going gets tough is part of the problem. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/25 02:26 AM |
| 0 | The lesbian divorce rate debunks a lot of the complaints wives have about their husbandsYou're rationalizing. There's no hard-and-fast rule for "too young", not to mention lesbian couples on average marry around the same time as women in heterosexual marriages | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/25 10:41 PM |
| 4 | The lesbian divorce rate debunks a lot of the complaints wives have about their husbandsWell, it's kind of neither here nor there as it's not really germane to my overall point. I suspect when people get pedantic about wanting sources cited to them, it's because they disagree anyway and citing a source won't change their mind. Plus, I kind of hate responding to threads then having to stop to go Google things when the person "asking for a source" can go do it themselves. It takes all of ten seconds. If I'm completely wrong, Google will tell you. All that said, I plugged your questio… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/25 10:40 PM |
| 3 | The lesbian divorce rate debunks a lot of the complaints wives have about their husbandsI'm fairly certain that stat pertains to lesbian relationships rather than a generic poll of women who have faced DV in any prior relationship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/25 10:27 PM |
| 9 | The lesbian divorce rate debunks a lot of the complaints wives have about their husbandsWhy is the trend that women suffer in the institution of marriage? Funny how women want marriage more than men, but men tend to get married and stay more than women do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/25 10:25 PM |
| -8 | The lesbian divorce rate debunks a lot of the complaints wives have about their husbandsYou can Google it. This topic even went trending on TikTok last year. I think studies from the CDC and a university found high rates of DV and infidelity among same-sex couples. The cited reasons for divorce among lesbians correlates with their divorce rate being higher than heterosexual and same-sex male relationships. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/25 05:30 PM |
| 13 | The lesbian divorce rate debunks a lot of the complaints wives have about their husbandsThe prevailing narrative is that men are the ones who need to step up their game and they need to do more and be better partners for these beautiful, smart, emotionally intelligent, and healed women. It's easy to do that when we're shifting the blame entirely to men, or when a woman is standing next to a man. Remove the man and now you have two women...why isn't the fact that you have two women are ostensibly better communicators and totally clean and neat and tidy keeping these couples together… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/25 05:22 PM |
| 7 | The lesbian divorce rate debunks a lot of the complaints wives have about their husbandsWhat do you mean "because they actually have the resources to do so most of the time"? It actually doesn't cost that much to divorce unless it's contested and lawyers get involved. And that still doesn't speak the reasons why they're divorcing. Just having the means to do it doesn't mean they would. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/25 05:19 PM |
| 12 | The lesbian divorce rate debunks a lot of the complaints wives have about their husbandsPerhaps. But two of main reasons for divorce among lesbian couples is domestic violence and infidelity. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/25 05:16 PM |
| 3 | Manners and boundaries are often one of the biggest faults of men when pursuing womenAs a guy, what you're saying makes sense but I think we're talking past each other a little bit. This might sound a little toxic, but hear me out: the concept of boundaries is an awkward fit when talking about dating, courtship, and seduction. For women, the notion of setting boundaries is important for obvious reasons. You're the weaker, more vulnerable sex. You're always on alert that someone could be a predator or have bad intentions. Most men get and can respect that. The thing is, men don't… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/25 12:50 PM |
| 1 | Quick reference guide to debunking myths spread by the manosphereExactly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/25 05:16 PM |
| 7 | Women are not all attracted to a top percentage of “Chads”, here’s why:Yes they do. In fact, 80/20 is being slightly charitable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/25 06:56 PM |
| 1 | Lauren Sanchez is the opposite of what Red Pillers are telling us that men want in women and shows that women just have to be hot and seductiveI don't think it's that simple. Lauren's clearly his "type". He didn't marry a blonde waif-thin model chick from Iceland. He married a Spanish woman with big fake titties. And she's kinda/sorta age appropriate too, Lauren is probably different in key ways from his ex-wife, which is why she was able to get him. It's not just about being hot and seductive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/25 05:27 PM |
| -1 | Lauren Sanchez is the opposite of what Red Pillers are telling us that men want in women and shows that women just have to be hot and seductiveFacts. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/25 05:23 PM |
| 1 | Can a man ever become as attractive to women as women are in the eyes of men?Yes they can and it boils down to one thing: social proofing. The more she thinks other women want you, the more she will want you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/25 07:20 PM |
| 1 | It's very dangerous seeing all these female dating experts using male loneliness as a way to bash men when there's literally no co-relation that lonely man=bad men.Exactly. And you wouldn’t hear about it so much from female identified blue pill betas who use it as a basis to talk about how much more women have it together over men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/25 02:16 PM |
| 0 | Most women are not that smart and men are not intimidated by themAgain, it's not an either/or thing. You can get both in the same woman. But what I was mainly talking about are certain traits that a man would want in a wife (and by extension the mother of his children) and those usually have nothing to do with a college degree or a job title. A woman who said she would like to make her own money but her primary focus would be on homemaking and raising her children would be infinitely more attractive to a man than a woman who just wants to climb the corporate … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/25 03:52 PM |
| 0 | Most women are not that smart and men are not intimidated by themIt's not an either/or thing. Most men don't factor in things like a woman's degree or her job or her professional goals or accomplishments when considering whether she will be a good wife to him. Being proud of a woman or congratulating her on her successes isn't the same as arguing that those things really don't move the needle for men. I'm saying his relative disinterest shouldn't be taken as him being intimidated by her. He'd have to care more than he likely does for him to feel intimidation … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/25 02:13 PM |
| 0 | Most women are not that smart and men are not intimidated by themYou seem to think the way to combat a negative stereotype or false assumption is to go the complete opposite direction as if it's never the case. DEI is a thing; women have been hired and promoted based on DEI initiatives for years. I'm not saying that's the sole reason for any woman who has ever gotten promotion but to act as if it's some slur in general is disingenuous. I think corporations have been clear over the years that they take the pay gap/glass ceiling issue seriously and want to put … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/25 12:15 AM |
| 3 | Most women are not that smart and men are not intimidated by themLOL, I actually see the exact opposite. Men make reasoned arguments and women just make blanket stereotypes, accusations, or accidentally on purpose misconstrue what they're saying. I'd love to see one thread where a woman doesn't accuse men of being misogynistic or simply hating women. Just one. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/25 12:11 AM |
| 1 | Most women are not that smart and men are not intimidated by themI agree, men should do more for their own enrichment, like women. I don't think men should care so much about doing things just for the provisioning and protection of women since we're clearly not a priority for them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/25 12:06 AM |
| 1 | Most women are not that smart and men are not intimidated by themI feel like everybody stopped reading at that line. Again: you're making my point. A woman saying "it's about me" and a man saying "it's about you" are basically saying the same thing. My point is it's not intimidation because a man doesn't care about personal accomplishments and endeavors that have nothing to do with him. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/25 12:05 AM |
| 1 | Most women are not that smart and men are not intimidated by themI don't think that's a common refrain, but there is some truth to it. A lot of career-oriented women do care more about their career than their spouse. So why would a man who would like a wife choose a woman where he winds up playing second string to her career? At least the other way around his career would give provisioning to his family as that is his "role". Hers is just about personal satisfaction. Nothing wrong with that, it just does nothing for him. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/25 12:03 AM |
| 2 | Most women are not that smart and men are not intimidated by themThat's my entire point. All I'm saying is don't label men as being threatened or intimidated when they feel the exact same way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/25 11:58 PM |
| -1 | Most women are not that smart and men are not intimidated by themHence the reason more and more women have a career and don't have a man. You'd think women would be happier with that but alas, I think women are starting to realize girlbossing isn't all it's cracked up to be. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/25 11:57 PM |
| -1 | Most women are not that smart and men are not intimidated by themYou missed my point. I'm saying women have been misled to believe men are attracted to accomplishments in women and like that's what gives women value in men's eyes. When women find out that it doesn't, they assume it's due to men being intimidated by accomplished women. My point is men never told women that was what men wanted; other women told women that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/25 11:56 PM |
| -1 | Most women are not that smart and men are not intimidated by themThank you for these posts. You get what I'm saying. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/25 11:53 PM |
| -1 | Most women are not that smart and men are not intimidated by themCool story bro. But aside from the fact that many successful in fact do look for providers (just because she makes her own money doesn't mean she wants to be the breadwinner), her being successful and educated doesn't inherently do anything for her spouse. She wants a man to be her cheerleader. What if the man she wants would like a wife? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/25 11:50 PM |
| 0 | Most women are not that smart and men are not intimidated by themYou're accidentally on purpose overthinking it. I'm saying a woman's accomplishments don't exempt her from meeting the needs of the man she wants to be with. Cool she has personal accomplishments. It's not intimidation nor is it a sore spot because those accomplishments don't speak to her quality as a spouse. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/25 11:48 PM |
| -1 | Most women are not that smart and men are not intimidated by themYes, unless there's evidence to the contrary. That's my point, they point at a vague "she must have been helped in some way that I wasn't" to soothe their feelings of emasculation when a woman performs better than them. It can't be that she actually IS better, in their minds, so clearly she must have been given a leg up in some way. You're missing my point. Two things can be true: there are women who unfairly maligned for out-pacing their male counterparts, and there's a trend of companies basic… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/25 11:46 AM |
| -3 | Most women are not that smart and men are not intimidated by themWhat about when you’re considering what the man you want needs from you? LOL of course women don’t think about that, but humor me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/25 02:16 AM |
| -2 | Most women are not that smart and men are not intimidated by themLike I said in another comment, I guess that plausible. But I think more than likely these are men who simply don't care about a woman's accomplishments and it's being registered as antagonism. I would have a bit more sympathy for women on this point if I didn't honestly feel like women were set up by other women, and instead of rethinking their priorities, they just attack men for not "changing" right along with them. Ladies, it wasn't men who kicked you guys out of the house and asked you to w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/25 12:47 AM |
| 0 | Most women are not that smart and men are not intimidated by themMocking her accomplishments and dismissing them are not the same thing. And neither of those is what I'm talking about. I'm saying the way to enrich each other's lives if by fulfilling their needs and yes, that means to a degree fulfilling a "natural role" on both sides. The difference is, women who stake a large amount of their self-worth in their accomplishments find it hard to find a man who cares because just like she doesn't need him for money, he doesn't need her for it, either. On the oth… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/25 12:38 AM |
| -1 | Most women are not that smart and men are not intimidated by themI'm saying if there was one, it would likely be because the woman makes it one, or assumes that's the issue with the man. I don't think most men would care one way or the other, but that doesn't stop women from introducing this as the reason for why a relationship didn't work out. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/25 12:20 AM |
| -1 | Most women are not that smart and men are not intimidated by themCase in point: you have a good job and do the NYT crossword puzzle, but you can't even take a joke. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/25 12:16 AM |
| -10 | Most women are not that smart and men are not intimidated by themAnd that's why all the smart and successful women find husbands, right? No issues there. OK. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/25 12:14 AM |
| -1 | Most women are not that smart and men are not intimidated by themYou're right it's compatibility and if more women understood that they wouldn't assume that because men don't care about their personal accomplishments it's not because they're "intimidated" or scared of them. People bristle at my saying women should consider how they enrich a man's life, but I mean, why else would he want to be with you if you don't do so in some meaningful way? I'm sure plenty of gamers wish women cared about their proficiency in gaming, I know for a fact plenty of bodybuilder… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/25 12:13 AM |
| 0 | Most women are not that smart and men are not intimidated by themI can bench press 225. Most men in the world can't do that even once. You likely don't give a fuck, which is perfectly fine. Does it make sense to say you're just upset that I can do that and you can't, or is it fair to say you don't care because it does nothing to help you in any shape, form, or fashion? Does my benching 225 make you instantly attracted to me? Probably not. Does it make you want to have sex with me? Probably not. Does it make you want to have my babies? Again, probably not. So … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/25 12:05 AM |
| -2 | Most women are not that smart and men are not intimidated by themI love you glossed over women in that explanation. She's just being cool, badass little self and he's twisted himself into a knot over some invisible "hypergamous burden"? No, she's talking shit and talking down and belittling him and using her accomplishment as a flex as to why she doesn't have to pour into him all while feeling she deserves a male cheerleader. That would be the "main source of intimidation". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/25 12:01 AM |
| -7 | Most women are not that smart and men are not intimidated by themA man who doesn’t support his wife in her interests and endeavors will not be a husband for very long, as there are always a few attractive male coworkers who shared her interests and support her goals. Who might smash and dash, but likely won't marry her. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/25 11:56 PM |
| -3 | Most women are not that smart and men are not intimidated by themYou're conflating a couple of different things here. First of all, and this is one of the reasons I'm glad the RP exists, men shouldn't have to qualify their every thought or feeling about women in order to share it. Women complain about men all the time. A lot of people don't immediately hop to judging them for speaking about their feelings and their experiences. Is the critique valid or is it not? I'm tired of people, male and female, acting like men speaking up for once automatically means th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/25 11:55 PM |
| -2 | Most women are not that smart and men are not intimidated by themIt's wrong to just assume that a woman is out-pacing a man because of a handout or favoritism and not based on her work ethic alone. That said, I wonder how they would find out she was out-pacing them (cough Gold Star cough), and two, well, sometimes women are the recipient of special treatment on the job. Like, just because that might be a trope doesn't mean it's never the case. Women are more likely to be hired and promoted than men -- are we really saying every single woman was just the best … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/25 11:43 PM |
| – | Most women are not that smart and men are not intimidated by themWhy do I have to ask myself if my intellect enriches my man’s life? Why do I need to even consider a future husband when those things are for my own life? All my academic and professional achievements were done for myself. LOL, I rest my case. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/25 11:36 PM |
| 2 | Most women are not that smart and men are not intimidated by themNot sure why you keep talking shit about me but...like I said, men want to know how being with a woman will enrich his life. Having a high-earning woman who then feels she's always in competition with you or that you're not on her level isn't what most men want. It's not because we're intimidated by them, it's just that it does nothing to make our lives better. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/25 11:28 PM |
| -1 | Most women are not that smart and men are not intimidated by themI mean, I guess there's a contingent of men who do that. It's not implausible, but I also don't think that applies to most men about most women to where it would be this common refrain amongst women. Also, if a man "desires" a woman, again, it's not that there aren't rich men who lead with their money, but why are we assuming the topic of money would be a sore spot for him and not her? I don't want to put words in your mouth so if I'm off base I apologize, but to me it sounds like you're saying … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/25 11:25 PM |
| -7 | Most women are not that smart and men are not intimidated by themExcept it's not. Part of the reason why this trope is nonsense is because even intelligent and successful women very often want a man to be a provider and protector and still play their "natural role" as a man. Most women only view their success as a flex insofar as it allows them to opt out of playing the traditional female role. Aside from the fact that men don't just get to opt out of our role vis-a-vis our accomplishments, women should understand that not only is their success generally only… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/25 11:12 PM |
| -1 | Most women are not that smart and men are not intimidated by themThe other is to find a man who doesn't tie his sense of security in the relationship to matching or exceeding his partner in intelligence, success, income, etc. And yet this is exactly what women do all the time. Because it's very interesting that you don't hear this complaint in reverse -- be careful of dating a woman who is intimidated by your intelligence and success who will attempt to dim your light. It's almost as if women are incapable of being envious of men in this way. Or maybe women a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/25 11:04 PM |
| -7 | Most women are not that smart and men are not intimidated by themOkay 🤷♂️ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/25 10:58 PM |
| -1 | Most women are not that smart and men are not intimidated by themI was saying you should ask yourself that question prior to assuming he's intimidated by you. People generally don't develop negative feelings about traits that don't affect their lives. If I told you I have a kickass rock collection and you, quite predictably, didn't give a fuck...would it be accurate for me to assume you're just jealous? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/25 10:57 PM |
| -6 | Most women are not that smart and men are not intimidated by themGoing through what? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/25 09:26 PM |
| 2 | "What could X age possibly have in common in Y age" is a ridiculous argumentThe thing so many women seem not to get about age-gaps is there's a difference between a man dating a woman because of her age and a man dating a woman despite her age. Part of it is physical attraction, but let's be clear, if a guy had to pick between Honey Boo Boo (who's like nineteen) and Margo Robbie (who's 34), are we really saying men would pick Honey Boo Boo just because she's still in her teens? Come on now. But aside from looks, it's also the fact that men don't need from women what wom… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/25 10:43 PM |
| 3 | It's not misogyny just because you don't relate to the complaintUh, not sure what you mean, but all you did was ignore my response and make a generalization (that you probably don't even believe) just to contradict my point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/25 04:33 PM |
| 1 | It's not misogyny just because you don't relate to the complaintThe glaring problem is more men drive than women, so this isn't an apples-to-apples comparison. And that's even if I'm going to engage in this weird synaptic misfire of a point to begin with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/25 04:15 PM |
| 1 | It's not misogyny just because you don't relate to the complaintExactly and to be honest, I think this is what started a lot of the gender war nonsense we see now. Early, pandemic TikTok is full of girls talking about how they hate men and hating dating. It's chilled off a little bit because men have started talking back, but none of those women were getting banned for hate speech. It's only when Andrew Tate got popular that everybody's scared of the manosphere and the culture of misogyny. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/25 04:08 PM |
| 0 | It's not misogyny just because you don't relate to the complaintGood post and I totally agree with you, especially in regards to people getting so jazzed up about generalizations. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/25 04:04 PM |
| 1 | Setting boundaries, when is it healthy and when does it turn bad?I think the issue with boundaries sometimes is women think they get to control what happens on either side. So it's like, women will tell a man she puts her phone on Do Not Disturb and turns her ringer off during the day because she doesn't want to be disturbed at work, but it would really mean a lot to her if you sent Good Morning texts. I remember a good example of this was on an episode of Sex and the City. Carrie and Aiden moved in together and when Carrie would come in he would hammer her w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/25 03:52 AM |
| 0 | It's not misogyny just because you don't relate to the complaintI don't know about all that. I think you might feel "attacked" because you're taking a generic complaint and turning it into a personal attack. That's a subtle way of diminishing what the person is saying. It still could be a behavioral trend among women even if it doesn't apply to you. And the thing is, immediately going on the defensive, well, does make you look a little suspicious. If you saw a woman make a post about married men making dating profiles and the first thing I said was "WELL I H… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/25 03:38 AM |
| 2 | It's not misogyny just because you don't relate to the complaintMine too, tbh. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/25 03:32 AM |
| 1 | It's not misogyny just because you don't relate to the complaintExactly. In a nutshell that's what I mean. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/25 03:28 AM |
| 2 | It's not misogyny just because you don't relate to the complaintIf by "issue" you mean hand-waving off whatever your complaint is because it doesn't apply to me so it's obvious you're just angry misandrists who are probably undercover lesbians? You're right. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/25 03:15 AM |
| 2 | It's not misogyny just because you don't relate to the complaintI'm saying it's a valid complaint from men. It doesn't impact women, and certain men have never dealt with it, so the truth of that sentiment might seem a bit more negotiable to those groups than the men who have or likely will deal with it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/25 11:48 PM |
| 2 | It's not misogyny just because you don't relate to the complaintTo be completely honest, I think most of them trolling and giving a cheeky remark to a fairly innocuous question. You'd probably get the same response from men if they asked "who is a better listener, a dog or a woman?" I didn't take it super serious. I just thought it was an opportunity for women to take a mostly harmless dig at men. The fact that it turned into a whole online debate made it all the more ridiculous. The men who got super jazzed up about it and the women who took it as a searing… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/25 11:45 PM |
| 0 | It's not misogyny just because you don't relate to the complaintI used them because they're a wildly known example and they have spoken to thousands of women. But there are plenty podcasts that have panels of women on who have confirmed other "uncomfortable truths". Please don't get bogged down with one example just to ignore my overall point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/25 10:39 PM |
| 1 | It's not misogyny just because you don't relate to the complaintPlease clarify the bear hypothesis. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/25 10:37 PM |
| 1 | Hey PPD! What is an unpopular opinion that you are thoroughly convinced is true about modern dating after many years?OP, I'd push back on #6. That's true until you turn around thirty and/or you start paying real bills. Then "crazy" turns into "annoying" very quickly. For me, I'd say: Women truly don't like men but they can't outrun their need to be validated by men which makes some of them resent us even more. Men can become what women want way more easily than women can become what men want. Men gatekeep relationships way better than women gatekeep sex, but the world we live in behaves as if it's the other wa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/25 10:35 PM |
| 4 | It's not misogyny just because you don't relate to the complaintNo, when people voice a concern or complaint, they're talking about the people they're talking about, and thus, they're not talking about the people they're not talking about. I think your problem is you take these things too literally and also you seem to have co-opted the way many women view complaints by men. Just because it doesn't apply to the first woman that enters your head doesn't mean it's not a valid complaint even in a general sense. My guess is you're not nearly as pedantic about wo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/25 10:16 PM |
| 3 | It's not misogyny just because you don't relate to the complaintAlso in turn, the reason every one is using the example of "my ex did something to me" is because a lot of people here can't even think of a particular problem unique to something some women do that they HAVE to assume a complaint a man makes HAS to be super personal. Thank you for saying this. A lot of people are ducking the smoke and they know it. Like, I want to be fair but this is what I mean. Men don't get to call out certain traits in women unless it's deemed to be them taking out their pe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/25 10:06 PM |
| 2 | It's not misogyny just because you don't relate to the complaintOh, well if that's your experience... I would ask that you stick around this subreddit and read more back-and-forths between men. It might change your perspective a bit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/25 09:59 PM |
| 4 | It's not misogyny just because you don't relate to the complaintI'll bet, but that's not what I'm talking about. I'm saying men aren't going to blindly defend other men for no other reason than it's a man and there's a point of contention between him and a woman. There aren't as many "guy's guys" in the sense that we will take up for men even if it means blessing actual toxicity in men. Women tend to do more of that hence them picking the bear in the first place. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/25 09:53 PM |
| 3 | It's not misogyny just because you don't relate to the complaintI understand what you're saying and that could open up a whole other conversation to be honest. All I'll say is that's more a feature than a bug. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/25 09:49 PM |
| 0 | It's not misogyny just because you don't relate to the complaintI gave examples because you asked. I was keeping this vague because, like I said, I think the style and intention behind men voicing their complaints is more evidence of misogyny than simply having a complaint. And this is what men have to deal with as well, which is why I made sure to include men on this as it's not just women. Bro, with all due respect, nobody's talking about your wife. You know that, I know that. Plenty of men are happily to women who don't fit whatever grievance is being dis… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/25 09:46 PM |
| 1 | It's not misogyny just because you don't relate to the complaintI agree with you, but I think 1) people have to learn not to take certain things so literally, and 2) not argue abstract truths with abstract falsehoods. What I mean is, I can respect a woman who speaks up and says something does not apply to her or her relationship. The other side of the guy who does the "all women do x" is the woman who acts like "no woman does x" or "yeah well all men do x". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/25 09:40 PM |
| 0 | It's not misogyny just because you don't relate to the complaintI don't think this is fair. Let's say you're right, though. Are you talking about Fresh and Fit? The Whatever Podcast? Michael Sartain and Rollo Tomassi's podcast? Yeah, the largest of those podcasts have talked to literally thousands of women at this point. Week after week, night after night. If they held some general idea that was fundamentally untrue about the nature of women, I think it would've been bore out by now. The men on those podcasts have spoken to more women than the average woman … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/25 09:35 PM |
| 1 | It's not misogyny just because you don't relate to the complaintWith all due respect, this is an example of a post that would prompt an equally derisive response...that would likely be labeled "misogyny". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/25 09:27 PM |
| 3 | It's not misogyny just because you don't relate to the complaintI addressed this in another comment, so I'll just quote myself for brevity's sake: So when I talk about misogyny, I'm saying we can't assume candor and honesty about men's feelings or their experiences are bore out of hatred because it's counter to what we're used to. I think people have enough discernment to tell when a man is being candid but respectful versus if he's saying something with the intent on hurting feelings or offending people. If he's not calling women out of their names, if he's… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/25 09:26 PM |
| -1 | It's not misogyny just because you don't relate to the complaintIt could any complaint, really. I kept it vague because I'm not talking about any one thing. It could be why women claim to want one type of man but then tend to go after another, it could be why women seem to want men to fulfill the traditional gender role assigned men but feel no need to fulfill their traditional role as women, why women seem to be so picky about things when they encounter a man but then claim they can't find a man, it could be why women tend to over-diagnose men (i.e. lovebom… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/25 09:13 PM |
| 3 | It's not misogyny just because you don't relate to the complaintThere's a little bit of social intelligence and thick skin that goes into being apart of these conversations, and this is one the reasons why we need more male-only spaces where men can speak without having to qualify everything for mixed company. Because people tend to speak about the people they're speaking about. Well, men do. I don't, and I doubt most men, feel the need to fire up the Batmobile every time a man somewhere gets insulted by a woman. But women take wild offense to men calling ou… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/25 09:03 PM |
| 2 | It's not misogyny just because you don't relate to the complaintWell, I'm sorry if you get called out for things you're honestly not doing and I wouldn't just assume you're lying because it doesn't track with my general idea of the world. But I think what many women do (and I don't know if this applies to you so forgive me if it doesn't) is they tend to blindly defend women against men even on things that a woman might not have firsthand knowledge about. Like, I don't feel the need to defend men to the point where I wind up protecting toxicity. I think men t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/25 08:53 PM |
| 0 | It's not misogyny just because you don't relate to the complaintYou're absolutely right, but the only thing I would push back on is how we're defining "a small subset of women". I think it takes both sides to be honest about one another on this, but I do think women sometimes assume that because none of the women they know have done x, that means it's not something that women in general do. Like, for example "foodie calls". If a man were to complain about women going out dates with guys just for a free meal, or just so they can eat an expensive meal, a lot o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/25 08:41 PM |
| 0 | It's not misogyny just because you don't relate to the complaintVery true. But I also think men are a bit more intellectually honest. We know men do stuff like that, so even if it doesn't apply to us, we're not going to argue for the hell of it as if we've caught a stray. Two things can be true at once. Women on the other hand tend to act like an insult to one woman is an insult to women everywhere and that's a completely misguided way of looking at these kinds of conversations. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/25 08:35 PM |
| 0 | It's not misogyny just because you don't relate to the complaintIf you say "Women are cheating cheaters who fuck Chad and then try to get some mid slub to raise their affair baby!" Well, at the very least you're going to get a lot of eye rolls, some suggestions to go to therapy, and yeah, maybe someone pointing out the misogyny of those statements. In the way you've put this, I would agree how that comes off. If it's a Nobody, Nobody At All, On A Wednesday- type thing. But even in that example, there's some truth and it's a good example of what I mean. See, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/25 08:30 PM |
| 0 | It's not misogyny just because you don't relate to the complaintWell, I could give you a list, but it might be easier for me to answer your question by clarifying something: When men decide to speak up and voice their complaints and grievances about women, the problem (in my opinion) is too many assume they're only doing so with the intent to bash, criticize, or put women down because they gain some kind of satisfaction out of hurting women's feelings. Many women and men (I want this to be clear that men fall into this habit as well) are used to men just kee… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/25 08:19 PM |
| 1 | It's not misogyny just because you don't relate to the complaintI'll be honest, about 95% of the time when you hear someone mention misogyny in these conversations, they're doing what I described in my OP. Like I said, people who are fair-minded and have some perspective can understand that just because a generic complaint is levelled doesn't mean the person making it hates the opposite sex. It's only the people who are in denial who tend to immediately assume a complaint is due to hatred because they can't fathom it actually being the lived experience for a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/25 08:08 PM |
| 2 | It's not misogyny just because you don't relate to the complaintBut even "stereotypes" come from somewhere. And it takes a certain amount of maturity and intellectual honesty to discern between a valid complaint and being stereotyped. I would also argue that...women do this to men all the time. And I'm not saying that just to play the Reverse Uno card, I mean sometimes that's how these conversations turn into generic complaining about the opposite sex. "Men always..." will get a "well, women always..." type response. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/25 08:06 PM |
| 6 | It's not misogyny just because you don't relate to the complaintThe "nothing good to say about women" is largely circumstantial and can only be determined on a case-by-case basis. People don't have to water down a legitimate complaint with a compliment. That doesn't imply hatred in and of itself. If men have an excuse why something is okay for men to do but not for women, depending on what that thing is, I can understand why it would be seen as misogyny, but that's also on a case-by-case basis. I don't think most men shamelessly indulge in double standards, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/25 08:03 PM |
| 1 | What’s the point of asking women for their opinions if you’re just going to dismiss them right away?Well, if that's what you got out of what I said, so be it. I'm not going to keep trying to articulate nuance to someone who is unwilling to listen. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/25 07:14 PM |
| -1 | What’s the point of asking women for their opinions if you’re just going to dismiss them right away?I'm saying, in your analogy, it's more complicated than that. Women are the gatekeepers of sex, not men. We can want whatever we want, but it's ultimately up to the woman if she obliges us. Most women aren't going to straight up ask if a man is "only looking for sex" and most men are not going to give some polar opposite answer of what they really want just to have sex and then ghost. The way you're putting is similar to how a lot of Red Pill content creators talk about women being gold diggers.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/25 03:47 PM |
| 2 | What’s the point of asking women for their opinions if you’re just going to dismiss them right away?Eh, I don't see a lot of average looking dudes with "above-average women". You have to keep in mind women have a lot more options to make themselves look better than they do (makeup, hair extensions and wigs, lashes, BBL surgery). Plus, heterosexual men will always find women more attractive than men for the obvious reasons. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/25 09:18 AM |
| 0 | What’s the point of asking women for their opinions if you’re just going to dismiss them right away?I respect when women like you speak to their preferences, and I'm sure this is what the OP is talking about. Being honest about your preferences also confers a certain amount of accountability. A lot of women will claim to want the guy where there's little risk of being played or dealing with a bunch of drama, but then pick and/or chase after the guy who brings them nothing but drama, only to then turn around and complain about men in general who bring drama to women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/25 09:13 AM |
| 9 | What’s the point of asking women for their opinions if you’re just going to dismiss them right away?Women's words usually align with their feelings, not their actions. Their actions can be wildly contradictory sometimes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/25 09:08 AM |
| -1 | What’s the point of asking women for their opinions if you’re just going to dismiss them right away?He's probably not going to "admit that upfront" because, well, that's not how the game goes. Ninety percent of able-bodied men, when faced with an attractive woman, wouldn't be totally averse to having sex with her on the first night. That doesn't mean sex is the only thing he's looking for nor does it mean that's the sole purpose for entertaining her. The majority of men aren't going to tell a woman the polar opposite of his intentions either. He's not going to say he wants to settle down and g… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/25 09:07 AM |
| 11 | What’s the point of asking women for their opinions if you’re just going to dismiss them right away?Yeah, no. Men tend to be much more direct and literal in what they're looking for when it comes to a partner than women. I just saw a video literally a few hours ago where a woman said she made a video asking men about what they're looking for in a spouse and she said virtually all the comments said a woman who will bring them peace. The problem is, and this speaks the issue in the OP to a large extent, is that women will hear but not listen to men, and then when their experiences with men eithe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/25 09:01 AM |
| 2 | What’s the point of asking women for their opinions if you’re just going to dismiss them right away?Edit: with regard to attraction, women say one thing and they fuck another. Exacttly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/25 08:53 AM |
| 1 | What’s the point of asking women for their opinions if you’re just going to dismiss them right away?I agree. Notice how even in the content creator space, the guys who do the most pandering to women tend to wind up being POS in their personal lives. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/25 08:50 AM |
| 1 | What’s the point of asking women for their opinions if you’re just going to dismiss them right away?Respectfully, this is one of the main differences between men and women. There's a lot of truth and wisdom even in the "harsh" criticism women receive from men. I think sometimes women can't see past their initial reaction and think men are just being mean and cruel just for kicks when sometimes they're being very exact in what they're saying. When you see men lifestyle coaches -- Kevin Samuels was one of those before he began his call-in show -- very often they're just as blunt and unsparing wi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/25 08:49 AM |
| 5 | What’s the point of asking women for their opinions if you’re just going to dismiss them right away?Showing women to be hypocrites isn't exactly hard to do, and I say that with all due respect to women. Like I think most women have a blind spot and think their experiences and the experiences of the women around them is the normative experience for women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/25 08:42 AM |
| 10 | What’s the point of asking women for their opinions if you’re just going to dismiss them right away?And it's usually over anything that might be considered "negative" in its connotation. Ask most women and they'll say, "oh no, women don't care about little things if he's an otherwise nice, attractive guy". [guy watches one Pop The Balloon episode] Men: "Yeah, I just saw a guy get rejected because his beard didn't connect all the way or because they didn't like that his pants didn't touch his shoes." Women: "Oh, that's just those women". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/25 08:35 AM |
| 0 | Why do you think some women settle for relationships with men who don’t share domestic responsibilities according to their preferences?O...K? A man who works every day and provides for the roof over your head isn't all of a sudden an adult child simply because he's not as clean as you are. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/25 04:50 AM |
| 1 | Why do you think some women settle for relationships with men who don’t share domestic responsibilities according to their preferences?No, it's really not, because of course the both of you were trying to make a good impression. If he straightened up prior to you coming over to his place, that means that at some point his place needed cleaning. If you're living together, you're going to see his living space in disarray...because you live with him. Expecting that your spouse contributes to the upkeep of the home is completely reasonable. But like I said, you have to pick your battles. His idea of cleanliness may not be walking i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/25 04:47 AM |
| 3 | Why do you think some women settle for relationships with men who don’t share domestic responsibilities according to their preferences?You know the phrase, "if he wanted to, he would"? Yeah, that applies to women as well. If she wanted to keep the connection with her husband, if she wanted to divide caretaking where she had time for other things, she would. Like I said, many times when you hear women complain about being overworked and underappreciated it's because they're using that to avoid their spouses. Resenting him and then acting on that resentment isn't respectable even if the problem you're having is valid. And again, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/25 04:43 AM |
| 2 | Why do you think some women settle for relationships with men who don’t share domestic responsibilities according to their preferences?He should, but 1) this is why some women justify doing 100% because it gives them a reason to avoid their spouses, and 2) when he does take over, it's likely so she can go do something else (like sleep or other things) which creates the same effect of avoiding her husband. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/25 03:52 AM |
| 2 | Why do you think some women settle for relationships with men who don’t share domestic responsibilities according to their preferences?Well yeah, but I think how it's being worded and how it works in practice is different. Most people have to spend some time cleaning because, well, things get untidy sometimes. It is what it is. I'm sure some women are very clean in general, but I think the problem for most women is their man doesn't clean and housekeep to the same extent they do. If a man faithfully got up every Saturday morning and started cleaning, most women would be fine with that despite whatever mess is made during the we… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/25 03:48 AM |
| 5 | Why do you think some women settle for relationships with men who don’t share domestic responsibilities according to their preferences?You're absolutely right, and I'm not speaking of the normal healing process after giving birth. And I know some women don't necessarily have easy pregnancies either. So there's that. I'm talking about the women who know full well that they're using their babies to put up a wall of sorts between them and their husbands. No, this isn't something they will readily admit to in person or in a group chat or even in a therapy session because they know how it sounds. But yes it's a thing nonetheless, so… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/25 03:43 AM |
| 1 | Why do you think some women settle for relationships with men who don’t share domestic responsibilities according to their preferences?To avoid her husband, to avoid paying him any attention, to avoid giving him any affection, to avoid sex, to avoid having to "deal with" him. Some | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/25 03:39 AM |
| 6 | Why do you think some women settle for relationships with men who don’t share domestic responsibilities according to their preferences?Who said anything about squalor? It's his house too! Couples should compromise but it's not his job to make sure your house looks like an AirBnB every night just so you don't have a mental breakdown. You have to pick your battles. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/25 03:38 AM |
| -1 | Why do you think some women settle for relationships with men who don’t share domestic responsibilities according to their preferences?I'm saying you're clocking it as jealousy or immaturity or resentment based on insecurity when that is precisely what women will do. It would be like if you suspect your husband of having an affair because he's dressing different and wearing expensive cologne. Would it be fair to just call you paranoid if it turns out he was actually having an affair and that was why? No. Men can have a certain amount of discernment and emotional intelligence too. He knows when you're breastfeeding and caretakin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/25 03:35 AM |
| 1 | Why is it that every time there is a conversation about a relationship with an age difference, it is automatically assumed that the man is evil?Because in practice it's obnoxious and condescending. I think one of the main things women never will understand is how little men care about power dynamics, being seen or considered an alpha, or any of that. It's like if you go watch any video of a dog with a smaller animal. The dog could kill the smaller animal in an instant and the smaller animal likely couldn't defend itself. But what does the dog do, generally? Smell it, lick it, and then goes on to find something else to smell and lick. So… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/25 03:31 AM |
| 2 | Why do you think some women settle for relationships with men who don’t share domestic responsibilities according to their preferences?I've also read that many women start to view their husbands as superfluous because they have their baby. The Divorce or PPD subreddits have plenty of stories about that. So it's not jealousy if their wives are somewhat intentionally withholding affection by cleaving to their babies. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/25 03:07 AM |
| 2 | Why do you think some women settle for relationships with men who don’t share domestic responsibilities according to their preferences?I don't think this is fair. When you're dating someone, even if you talk to them every day and spend a lot of free time together, you're not spending as much time with them as when you're married. Women witness men's version of nesting in their homes and call it "laziness". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/25 03:05 AM |
| 1 | A lot of men complain about the friendzone because they only befriend attractive women to try to date themSo there are two answers to this: 1) Yeah, you actually do. Go look at the women current (and ex) convicts tend to get with. Often times those are not the cream-of-the-crop women who would get a lot of attention; conversely, they wind up with men who spend all day doing burpees and push-ups who have a low BF%. Another common example are athletes who either haven't gone pro or athletes in a sport that doesn't pay a ton of money at their level. Think your local MMA guys or minor-league baseball pl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/25 12:38 AM |
| 0 | A lot of men complain about the friendzone because they only befriend attractive women to try to date themThat's more circumstantial than what he's talking about. Not being a fan of cold approaching is understandable but it's also not the energy a lot of women give off. The energy a lot of women give off is more "stranger danger omg where's the rape whistle???" than "there's a time and a place for that". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/25 07:54 AM |
| 1 | A lot of men complain about the friendzone because they only befriend attractive women to try to date themThere's a possibility that he's "dating outside his league" but I think that's also something people tell men that grants a certain amount of unearned credit to women. A woman is a 6 will look at a man who's a 6 and think he's a 3 or 4. I think the guy hoe_math has even done videos on this. Women don't find their male equivalents attractive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/25 07:50 AM |
| 1 | A lot of men complain about the friendzone because they only befriend attractive women to try to date themEh, not necessarily. I don't say this is an endorsement but sometimes women get used for sex after the guy gets what he wants he doesn't much else to do with her. It's "rejection" if the woman truly wanted a relationship with him and he was just prowling for sex, but aside from that being more mismatched priorities that's also sometimes the byproduct of women only making themselves available to the men they want to have sex with in the first place and not giving men where there isn't an immediat… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/25 07:44 AM |
| 1 | A lot of men complain about the friendzone because they only befriend attractive women to try to date themSo is not being a man's first choice or only option. So is not being certain men's "type" or "preference". So is dating but then not getting the ring and wedding you wanted. But notice how we're way more willing to try to soothe women in light of that aspect of reality whereas men just have to suck it up and deal with the aspect that involves women rejecting them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/25 07:35 AM |
| 0 | A lot of men complain about the friendzone because they only befriend attractive women to try to date themThere's specific rejection then there's the Culture of Rejection that braden941 is talking about. Let a lot of women tell it, they're so burdened by men shooting their shot and not taking "no" for an answer that it's almost affecting their mental health. After awhile, it does kind of start to sound like women simply don't like men. Which: cool. But you can't be surprised when men start to dislike women back, as petty as that sounds. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/25 07:32 AM |
| 1 | A lot of men complain about the friendzone because they only befriend attractive women to try to date themYou're conflating "red pillers" with "incels". Not the same mindset at all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/25 07:23 AM |
| 1 | Women on reddit who claim to be single and perfectly happy due to potential dating partners not meeting their standards are often miserable in reality.Depends on how you define "single". If you mean "single" as in "dating someone", I agree. If you define "single" as "unmarried", eh...I don't think it's that easy to get a man to marry women, especially these days. It's easy to find a man to go on dates and have sex with, though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/25 02:11 AM |
| 2 | Women on reddit who claim to be single and perfectly happy due to potential dating partners not meeting their standards are often miserable in reality.But if they're just as discontent as the average poster on an incel forum, "happiness" in a generic sense is kind of moot. There are incels who are likely happy outside of their inability to find a woman. It's not like every incel is just moments away from ending it all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/25 02:07 AM |
| 6 | Women on reddit who claim to be single and perfectly happy due to potential dating partners not meeting their standards are often miserable in reality.Eh, the difference is women can still get their feet wet in the dating pool without fully committing to swim in it. A lot of women who claim to be happily single still go on dates, still have men in the friendzone, and still even have men they can have casual sex with. For men, being happily single is about committing to being alone a lot of the time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/25 02:01 AM |
| 3 | Both genders would be happier if women did the approachingYeah if a chick approached me in a GameStop I'd pretty much think she was trying to get wife'd up. Because why are you so tactile with it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/25 04:40 PM |
| 1 | Misconceptions about men and women "just being friends"As tough as it is, let him know you're not interested in anything romantic with him. If you actually would want to just be friends with him, I would spell that out for him. The thing about the friendzone that's so toxic is it's women almost leading a man on or trying to extract boyfriend benefits from a man whom she's just friends with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/25 03:22 PM |
| 11 | Women who had toxic relationships when they were young and immature were not that different from sad virgin men.Good comment. I'm glad a woman understands the quiet desperation for many men. I actually think women start experience a twinge of that as they get older and start to feel looked over and unseen. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/25 03:54 AM |
| 2 | Men got scapegoated for Purity CultureI think what he means is in order for men to provide guidance to young boys, it will require that society collectively stands back and lets them do it without a lot of pearl-clutching and schoolmarming because they don't like some of what is said or how it is being said. This is even present in a lot of RP content. Nobody has a problem with the part where we tell boys to get off their butts and get a job, make money, find their purpose, get in the gym, be a protector and provider for a woman. Bu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/25 06:08 PM |
| 1 | Misconceptions about men and women "just being friends"Men's emotions don't work the same way as women's, and how we communicate isn't necessarily the same as women. Also, like I said, men have exponentially more testosterone than women, so sexual desire isn't as negotiable as it is for women. Not to mention, most men don't have an abundance of options when it comes to sex, so if a man is going to make a huge investment of time and emotion in a woman it's likely going to be in pursuit of sex as his first priority. Platonic relationships come second.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/25 05:51 PM |
| 1 | Misconceptions about men and women "just being friends"It's not that simple. I think most men would rather have a mutually beneficial relationship with a woman where you both getting what you need out of it. The part where women maybe tend to emotionally dump (and I don't want to keep using that term to describe simply talking about their feelings, but I'm just taking it to its extreme to make a point) is just part of the overall relationship. Take away the possibility of physical intimacy for the man and it becomes a dynamic that is more beneficial… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/25 05:45 PM |
| 1 | Misconceptions about men and women "just being friends"I'm saying what men might consider "emotional dumping" and what you consider emotional dumping may not be the same thing. In my admittedly anecdotal experience, I've never had a woman acknowledge that she emotionally dumps or trauma dumps on people. I have actually had guys acknowledge that they need someone to talk to or that they have a problem they need to talk through. With women, same applies, but it's just another Tuesday so they don't think much of it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/25 05:38 PM |
| 1 | Misconceptions about men and women "just being friends"I actually agree with your take here. I can understand and empathize with both sides not really knowing how to handle a situation like that. I think the problem is we tend to place the onus on the guy in this scenario to get a clue or deal with reality. I don't disagree with that but I do wish we placed more emphasis on telling women it's kind of crappy to try to get boyfriend treatment out of a guy where there's no reciprocation. I don't mean a quid pro quo thing, but just saying that this isn'… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/25 05:15 PM |
| 1 | Misconceptions about men and women "just being friends"I would be willing to bet you and your female friends do way more emotional dumping on the whole than any of your male friends. Again, I don't mean men never talk about their feelings or problems at all ever; I mean the way men and women communicate and relate to one another is fundamentally different. It's not really that there's anything wrong with either way, I just think this is why it's difficult for men and women to be platonic friends a lot of the time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/25 05:09 PM |
| 3 | Misconceptions about men and women "just being friends"So what you're saying is that men fail themselves when they accept being in the friend zone (agree with this) but somehow it's women's fault when the man takes the role of their therapist without showing any signs of inconvenience and setting boundaries even tho it's not good for him? How's that? The friendzone thing is different than just being a woman's therapist even though they can flow from one another. It can happen inadvertently. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/25 12:33 AM |
| 0 | Misconceptions about men and women "just being friends"I find this interesting because, from my experience, none of this is exclusive to gender. I have had men talk about their problems with me, I have talked about my problems with other men, and with women. I have also gotten on the game with women, or do any other typical fun activity. In an ideal friendship, you should be able to both have fun and express problems in your life, and be able to get support from others, or give support to them as well. I have friends, both men and women, with whom I… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/25 12:18 AM |
| 1 | Question for the redpill men about feminity in womenGood points. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/25 08:47 PM |
| 3 | Cold approaching is the answer to every man's problems when it comes to dating but most men don't want to put in the work it takes to get to the point of being able to do it.I'm kinda on this too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/25 08:50 AM |
| 0 | Most girls don’t prefer significantly older menI don't think this is fair. First of all, I think it's mostly understood that women's SMV tends to drop after thirty, while men's increases, due to the fact that men who have built resources now have more to offer than men in their 20s who are still figuring themselves out. This idea that men spend a bunch of time resenting women they couldn't get is because a lot of people assume men work the same way as women. Men who are not physically attractive or all that charisma tend to know that's why t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/25 06:29 PM |
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