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Discussionparduscat/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/15 02:35 PM
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All through the 2010s a slice of pop feminist women were the first group to be SHOCKED that Disney movies and romances depicted in them were not in fact real life. Some men started bitching and moaning about something similar in the late 2010s, but from what I remember it's always been mostly women complaining about that stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 05:09 PM
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I mean, in my experience, most women are looking for a man who's emotionally available, compassionate, empathetic, good with children, and capable of being a reciprocal partner. In other words, a whole-ass emotionally mature adult. Women don't want to be your mommy. They don't want to manage your emotions, your friendships, your hygiene, your appointments, or teach you basic empathy. The "two working parents raising kids" model has been around and heavily normalized since before most Millennials…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 10:48 PM
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If you're talking about focusing on personality and compatability, that's been a thing in dating since forever, that's not new and that's not something men need to re-learn. What men claim now is that due to dating apps and the like, that they can't even get to the stage where it's determined by them and the woman they're trying to get with whether they're a good match or not (though one could argue that that itself indicates they're not a good match).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 10:40 PM
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Tell me then what you mean by "meaningful effort to change". "Change" in what way and why?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 10:20 PM
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I don't care about Tinder swiping videos and idk what any of that has to do with "manosphere" (an increasingly broad term that seems to mean "anything that doesn't adhere to 2020-tier progressivism") talking points.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 10:10 PM
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I haven't seen any of your videos and idk if you're being sarcastic given your posting history.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 09:57 PM
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They don't make any meaningful effort to change. They don't adapt to the society they actually live in; they keep insisting society should adapt to them. That's plain not true at all, at all, the average Millennial or Zoomer man is far more progressive in rhetoric and action than his predecessors, the "issue" from what I can gather is that because men aren't as all-in on "woke" as women are, that's a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 09:54 PM
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I never saw that study, I saw a study indicating that male students were scored lower on homework/exams than they ought to be depending on the sex of the teacher.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 05:12 PM
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The pipeline into studying STEM was disproportionately male in college as well, there were to my knowledge no studies at the time indicating any sort of notable bias; the imbalance was itself seen as evidence of sexism, and yet nothing was being said about the overall declining male enrollment rate relative to women. And how do you know it wasnt blatant sexism? Exactly what I'm talking about. If men are advantaged in some way in outcomes then clearly sexism/the all nebulous "patriarchy" is to bl…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 04:39 PM
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But what they're asking you in assistance for is perfectly within the scope of your job?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 04:35 PM
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Not really, if boys start out performing girls it shows their systems work, that’s a good thing and maybe the girls need to adapt to that too. But as seen in the 2010s with boys being overrepresented in STEM and the liberal freak out about it and "tech bros" despite girls at the time already being 50%+ of college students, that's not how Western feminists see it at all. If men are succeeding or outperforming women then it has to be sexism and if the reverse is happening then it's because men jus…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 04:27 PM
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That's not even in the same galaxy of what you're talking about. Stop being lazy and either make peace with your job or find another one.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 04:17 PM
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I agree with you about RP alpha male, but idk what you mean about "political bro" stuff. Like libertarians?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 06:03 PM
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Or can you explain what ideals you have an issue with in context Idk you tell me, you brought them up first so you must have some ideas in mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 05:56 PM
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I’m not assuming men are in the wrong because I never assigned a right or wrong to things. This is the second time in this thread you've denied saying men's views (whatever they may be) are "bullshit", a word many people would see as a byword for "bad" and "ridiculous". Idk why since you clearly have that view. Stand on your words.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 05:49 PM
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These folks are some of the most arrogant SOBs online; the idea that you need to offer folks something or address their concerns if you want them to support you is completely lost on them. It's like they deliberately don't want to play politics.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 05:40 PM
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You're implicitly assuming that men as a whole are in the wrong here, but there's no way to know that, or even if that's the reason for the gap between the sexes. Men when sampled have stayed fairly ideologically stable and women, specifically young women, have gone way far left, though on what issues and what stances translate into that is typically not talked about. Should a young man change from being pro-life to being pro-choice to better appeal to his counterparts? Probably. Should a young …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 05:38 PM
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Paternal uncertainty sounds like a bitch for y'all to deal with. If it wasn't the case I think a lot of the historical examples of enforced female seclusion and purity focus would be far lessened. Now in the days of DNA testing it's not a huge anxiety. You ever have doubts, get the kids tested in secret, get the results, and now you know.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 06:44 PM
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You're proving my point of my original post. Agree to disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 02:19 PM
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It's about paternity uncertainty which should be fairly clear from the rest of the text. "Cuckoldry" isn't referring to the sexual "hotwife"/"cucking" kink but the old-time term for the act of your wife/partner cheating on you and passing off another man's child as your own.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 01:20 PM
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In what way?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 09:36 PM
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"Fear of emasculation" in what way, in what context, to what end?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 08:56 PM
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Women wouldn't get it because subordination/submission until decently recently has been interwoven with femininity in a way that it wasn't with men. No one wants or respects a man who loses face or undergoes humiliation, men or women, whereas for women it's not a knock to the idea of femininity in general even if it personally stings. That's one answer. The other answer is that everyone dislikes the idea of humiliation and it's not unique to men in any way I've noticed. I've seen women seethe fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 08:45 PM
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Historically and even currently, the status of masculinity allows men to socially climb quite high in varying circumstances, it makes sense that organic methods of defining and policing it would arise. From what I've seen, a lot of women have ideas of what makes one feminine though.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 08:22 PM
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I disagree about that, I never said it's taken away, I said it's a primal attack on one's masculinity which is why it provokes a strong reaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 08:20 PM
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The "cuck chair" thing is a meme, but the whole point, even for people with the fetish is that it's deeply humiliating and primal attack on one's masculinity. Some guys get turned on, and many more men crash all the way out if they feel they've been cheated on.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 07:55 PM
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Hot/cold take is that women on some level can't understand the male fear of cuckoldry in the same way that men don't really get why (nonviolent) "nice guys" provoke such antipathy in women, because in both cases there's not really any sort of equivalent for their sex to experience. Women by definition of reproduction know without a doubt that the baby growing inside of them is theirs regardless of how many men they're with at any time in the process. Yes there's the occasional devastating "switc…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 07:17 PM
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Weight can be controlled and has benefits for the person controlling their weight, the same is not true for height.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 04:12 PM
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I was going to say, it's a reaction to the traditional gender roles of Korea and the hyper-capitalist hellscape that is 21st century South Korea.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 06:57 PM
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But I do think it suffered from the same thing hereditary suffered from which is being too subtle and vague, I feel like Hereditary is decently clear about ultimately it's all been a scheme to put a devil king in the son and the family was just collateral for the cult.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 06:24 PM
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I just want the higher education gap halted and mostly closed and I want the declining male labor participation rate halted and reversed. Zero issue with the male provisioning or marriage expectations, minor issues with the draft as women just don't make nearly as good soldiers as men and it makes little sense for a society to send its young women to battle when they might one day have children.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 05:13 PM
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Refusal to date single moms That's not an unreasonable standard for a young man to have.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 02:22 PM
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So they resort to a pretty simple explanation: demonizing the guys as "not really nice". Yeah, the people who make such posts are pointing to something vaguely real, but they way overstate how much it happens or the severity when a "nice guy" does get upset he wasn't chosen. It's strange because one of the things of the 2010s and 2020s dating/romantic discourse that I did appreciate even if it could be harsh was this idea of people, specifically women, being more honest about what they physicall…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 03:19 PM
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There's a difference between pettiness and being outright malevolent, even in thought, and I knew you were talking about in general, not just to women. I just disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 03:10 PM
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They carry so much resentment(not just towards women) in their hearts that they would inflict brutal harm if they could. This is way overdramatic. Most people just don't think like that to begin with, not because they lack the ability to do harm.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 02:51 PM
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The amount of ire that "nice guys" or "nice guy"-adjacent men seem to provoke relative to what they actually do, compared to men that are outright violent/misogynistic towards women has always been odd to me. Maybe it's because the men are a combination of low status and physically non-threatening at least in stereotype? Idk, but pop culture hates these men worse than guys that are outright sexist.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 02:13 PM
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Idk about "shaming", and tbh neither should be happening as I think prostitution is bad for society, I'm just saying at the least the guy exchanging money (resources) for sex is getting something material/physical out of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 08:10 PM
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Even so, no excuse. Imo a large part of being a mature man is getting a high degree of mastery over your basic "fuckeatkill" impulses and men who spend the money on some online chick instead of at least a flesh and blood woman they could fuck haven't mastered themselves sufficiently. And it's just generally pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 06:44 PM
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The blame is purely on the losers who pay for OF in the first place. All the porn and nude/sex scenes in media and leaks and Instagram/TikTok thots in existence and you're paying for OF? And then some of those same men get pressed when women start getting a big head about it all?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 05:53 PM
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Women in general basically start 2+ rungs higher on the "Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs" for relationships compared to their male equivalents. Men are worried about getting laid at all, women are worried about how to transition a FWB or situationship into a steady relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 04:28 PM
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I feel like that's a very narrow and self-selecting group of people to make any conclusions on.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 03:57 PM
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It's a pretty profitable biz But there's no money in it to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 03:56 PM
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The shadow of lockdowns is much longer than anyone thought they'd be.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 09:18 PM
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That I don't think the Trump administration is going to do anything good for men is kind of a side issue. Unless you think "treating women like shit" is good for men. I don't. Agreed, I voted for Harris despite her being undemocratically shoved in there by Biden because January 6 was alarming, Trump heavily mishandled covid, and Trump is very erratic. I think though if Trump lost, then whatever motion or conversations there are currently happening on the left regarding young men falling behind w…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 06:55 PM
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So when there was that huge societal focus to get more women into STEM majors/professions despite women already being 50%+ (and growing) of all college attendees and no evidence of systemic discrimination, that was all above board? But when men want to see some motion on labor participation rate or higher education for them, it's valid for the left to say "tough"? Come on now, politics is about tangibles.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 06:08 PM
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Sanders lost the primary fair and square, the Lost Causers for his campaign need to give it a rest.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 06:02 PM
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Idk what the scale being used in the studies is, but it was talking right/left wing in a more general sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 05:51 PM
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And let's be clear, with an administration that credits itself with overturning Roe (and reasonably so) and with talking points like ending no fault divorce(1), pushing women into early marriage (2), and ending women's vote (3), women are going to take those votes very seriously, much more so than precisely why they were made. That's fair. I would point out that all those things are not things said by the Trump Administration either during the campaign or while now in power beyond the Roe ruling…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 05:45 PM
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how long ago did you see that? Within the last year or so, certainly post-2024 US Presidential election. I think I was googling more information regarding young male rightward radicalization (trying to get more specifics on what issues, by how much, relative to what cohorts and how the general leftward drift of society over the decades was accounted for, etc.), and I found a few articles talking about how the graphs and data demonstrated a much more severe leftward bent in young women. what does…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 05:26 PM
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Studies show that one of the shorter thought out consequences of men underperforming in education and the job market compared to women in the same age brackets is that men are lashing out by sliding more and more to the right politically. Not true. My understanding is that men, specifically young men, are more or less staying politically "neutral" on whatever scales are used to judge such things and it's young women that are going far to the left on a whole host of issues, not just things like a…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 05:03 PM
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It's the conservatives that want you to marry some single mother and be a glorified slave. But it's also conservatives that will outright say that non-widowed single moms are a bad thing for society and shouldn't happen in the first place. My most charitable view of conservatives is that they believe that society needs structure and people slotting into various roles, even if that causes individual friction. And men are expected to follow gender roles even in hyper progressive places anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 04:33 PM
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Are you agreeing or disagreeing with my answer?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 10:32 AM
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I blame the parents. If parents care and sit down and explain to their kids why schooling is important and anything less than a [A] in [English] is unacceptable, most kids will rise to the occasion. But it requires a very firm hand at times by the mom and dad.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 05:04 AM
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1) Some men are way too thirsty and it directly contributes to "hoeflation", because people respond to incentives and of course women are going to come away thinking that male thirst overwrites all else. When I say "thirsty", I don't mean that they're obsessed with approaching women or fucking irl, I'm talking about non-productive thirst like paying for OF or a girl's used underwear or bathwater. What the fuck does that accomplish? Real talk I do wonder what's psychologically going on with those…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 08:56 PM
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Sometimes, but how many female celebs do women laud and reference her "face card" or hair or how to get a body like her's? They're praising her looks at the end of the day.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 08:26 PM
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The approval of straight women is not based on how hot you look. I'm a man, so I may be way off base, but from what I've heard and seen, I'm almost certain that's not true. Female beauty has massive currency among both men and women even if the underlying reason behind that currency is different.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 08:01 PM
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Coming from a developing nation where my grandmother and mother and probably all those before them work field jobs, Idk anyone who gushes about the trad life. Well yeah, because physical field work kind of sucks lol. In the "trad life/wife" arrangement that Westerners talk about, they're talking about a setup where the husband makes so much money that the wife can afford to be a housewife (kids or no kids) without their lifestyle taking a hit. It's old school premodern status signaling in a way;…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 05:18 PM
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Is that a widespread feeling? I remember way back in the 90s and 2000s when I was growing up that most kids I knew had both a mom and dad that worked full time and just juggled childcare, home maintenance, and cooking between them. It's a doable lifestyle if the school system has a solid latchkey program. To your question though, I can see the appeal if the man is making so much money that the income the woman pulls in might be marginal or the household can afford it. You don't have to work, you…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 02:59 PM
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I see, sorry about that. Does pink pill even really apply to gay men, out of curiosity? I mean, it's all guys, you know in broad strokes how men think regarding sex and commitment and visual attraction and there's no danger of pregnancy, so what's the purpose?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 08:11 PM
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Like he was closeted or are you a guy or...?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 08:06 PM
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Then why is he your ex?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 07:50 PM
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"Rinsing"? Like dabbing on men?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 07:49 PM
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I have more respect for a person who goes full incel/femcel than someone who starts unironically romancing a chatbot, because at least the incel/femcel/"monk"/"nun" is reckoning with their fate.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 06:03 PM
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I don’t see what that changes in anything. Why wouldn't that change anything? Media is influential, especially if it's from the people it's talking about. But again, I don't get what you're upset about. Men like casual sex a lot and will jump through hoops to get a steady supply of it; news at 11.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 07:53 PM
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There is statistics showing 33% of casual sex results in female orgasm. Yeah but even with that the pop feminist response would be, "Well, men need to become better lovers during casual sex and that will go up." Also, I don't disagree with your OP, I just don't understand the emotion behind it. People tend to turn a blind eye towards bad behavior from people that they're getting something from, that's human nature. That doesn't excuse the bad behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 07:35 PM
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Keep in mind that there was a very big push in the 2010s by "pop feminists" to normalize women participating in hook-up culture and that women wanted and enjoyed sex (which they clearly do), including/emphasizing casual sex, just as much and as often as men. So I don't think it's necessarily fair to fault men in their late teens - mid 30s that they believed what a certain (loud) slice of women were saying or applying that to all women in their age groups, especially if women themselves weren't p…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 06:41 PM
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There's very little "hyper-feminine" about "hood" femininity. Fair. I'm thinking of the (obviously exaggerated and stylized) aesthetics of Cardi B, Megan Thee Stallion, and Sexxy Red, those types. Obviously those aren't on the ground reality aesthetics but I think it contrasts with that of SZA or HER quite well.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 07:02 PM
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meaning making bad decisions. In the age of hookup apps, contraception, and condoms, it's not necessarily a "bad decision", it's just a woman's "hoe phase" or just one of those sexual encounters/FWBs that even put together women have just because as they go through their 20s/30s.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 05:33 PM
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One of the aspects of "pill" and "sexual marketplace" discussion that I feel could be engaged in more is how class plays a role in all of this. I've noticed this the most in Black American spaces (due to at times the gulf that can exist between middle class Black American culture and "hood" Black American culture) but also in general, which is that middle class masculinity isn't really "legible" as a desirable masculinity in such places whereas middle class femininity is very much legible as a d…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 05:18 PM
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You're pathologizing something that doesn't require it. "Alphas"/"Chads" are the guys who don't have to wine and dine a chick a bunch of times to get some (at least in theory), he's the ~5% of men who genuinely are that physically attractive and charismatic that women want to get with him even if purely just as one night stands. Neither the alpha nor beta archetypes are preying on anyone, they're just doing what works.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 05:00 PM
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I think what the programs recently launched in Michigan are pretty promising, though I'd like to see Federal-level direction.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 07:57 PM
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It's not about recognition or kudos, it's just about how male issues are talked about consistently without fail. You (in the general sense) feel some way about men, that's what that is, I'm not interested in changing minds, I'm just looking for fairness/reciprocity per the tenets of liberalism as a concept.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 07:20 PM
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In general, and to your bad faith question, yeah, a notable decline in domestic violence incidence would absolutely be a metric to gain a rough approximation of such things, though that's only one of many. You think a 30 year old man now is more sexist either colloquially/conversationally, behaviorally, or ideologically than the average 30 years old man in 2006?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 05:42 PM
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I don't disagree with what you're saying, but you're talking too "micro" and zoomed in. On a macro level, men have absolutely gotten far more feminist and "nicer" than they were 20+ years ago, but the vitriol and apathy they receive towards their facts-on-paper issues has only increased, so while I've heard the "if men were nicer, media would be nicer to them" argument before, I think that's not the bulk of what I and other men are noticing. People just don't give a fuck about men like that to b…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 05:34 PM
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This smells like avoidance Looks like clarification/nuance to me, but go off. "Speak with data" is what I was taught, but I won't deny that men make up the vast majority of murderers.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 05:15 PM
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if men die more why women die more in specific circumstances? We're talking causes of homicide, not deaths in general per the blurb you quoted. So while everyone dies, not everyone is murdered and men are murdered both randomly and by people they know at far greater rates than women, meaning that it could be a situation where men and women are killing each other via intimate partner violence at equal raw numbers, but since far less gross numbers of women are murdered to begin with, intimate part…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 04:48 PM
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Show me a trend chart, show me raw numbers and what percentage of men and women are murdered to begin with, etc. Because if women are far less likely to be murdered than men to begin with (which they are), then it makes sense that certain causes that would be small for men would be larger for women as a percentage of causes.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 04:28 PM
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That would require a level of willingness to tolerate people being mean to them on Bluesky that they don't have.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 03:56 PM
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There are inherent benefits to getting fit, especially regarding cardio, that go way beyond attractiveness to women and you do genuinely feel more confident. Would you rather be short and out of shape or short and in shape?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 03:52 PM
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Cool cool
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 03:39 PM
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I get all that, but what's weird to me is how little inward examination a lot of these people seem to do, or at least be willing to just engage with the data without emotion or gender identity politics framing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 03:23 PM
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Google any of the things I mentioned, I have facts on my side, you're just (trying and failing) to derail well-known data. For what reason idk.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 03:22 PM
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I have eyes and ears and can see how various mainstream publications talk about men, specifically young men, and try to twist the facts-on-paper data regarding the male labor participation rate, the higher education gender gap, the male suicide rates, and I'm pointing that out. Folks like you know what the facts are, so you can't deny those anymore like they used to in the mid-2010s because men are getting too loud and material reality is starting to peskily intrude, so now you're trying to dist…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 02:52 PM
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That has nothing to do with what I said, like at all. That's a straight up non sequitur actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 02:44 PM
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It's kind of crazy how biased liberal mainstream media is against men, specifically young men. Whenever they talk about gender gaps of any kind, men are always at fault or the ones that need to change. College is female dominated? Women just work harder, men need to step up. Engineering and Comp Sci courses are still largely populated by men? It's a national emergency and proof (inherently so) of a toxic "bro culture" and must be corrected to be at least 50%+ women. Men are staying largely stabl…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 02:30 PM
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I heard some guy claim that Kayla Nicole was "alpha widowed" by Travis Kelce (this was shortly after her Halloween post), and I kind of see it because that lady will not let it go and it's been nearly 3 years. Some shit went down between her, Travis, and Taylor Swift.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 04:59 PM
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And if we’re being brutally honest , isn’t what were seeing right now , men being left dry , unselected , angry , whining about women actually a sign that female sexual selection is finally working without interference? First thing to note is that throughout human history fewer men than women as a percentage of their populations have reproduced, so men have arguably always been more "selected" than women; the view in some more evo-psych adjacent feminist circles that men haven't been is false. A…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 12:55 PM
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I'm telling you what I've seen irl.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 01:27 AM
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For every single mom, there is a deadbeat dad. But as is clear up and down this sub, men think it’s all the mother’s fault. What about vetting?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 07:22 PM
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Fair point, but that's 3 out of 4 that do, and the rest of my point stands.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 04:14 PM
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The majority of women have access to abortion and even more have access to contraceptives. And to address Lilith's main complaint, women get the majority of the heat when it comes to single mother homes and their various ill effects because they are the ultimate deciders of such things, it's pretty obvious. Want to minimize the risk of being a single mom? Choose a stable guy with gainful employment who isn't embroiled in baby momma drama. And even then deadbeat dads are considered to be more acc…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 04:00 PM
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Women in Western societies have complete control from beginning to end of their pregnancies and if they even become a mother in the first place. This narrative that some women like to spin that an otherwise normal guy all of a sudden pulls a 180 and becomes a deadbeat is not rooted in reality; I've seen it. Some women get with these guys that are bums, immature, or have kids from multiple women and aren't married to one of them, and then are shocked when he winds up being a shitty father. And th…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 03:28 PM
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Idk about that, feels like it's gotten much worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 06:35 PM
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Don't disagree, pretty sure human skeletons in general used to be more robust, but physical output is something that men tend to have a noticeable advantage in and societies have utilized them for that in the past and present. But you’re right that agriculture was often an all hands situation with women hoofing it as well as men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 06:24 PM
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I agree with that, but there has been an uptick in such discourse online in the past 3+ years and there is unfortunately a more direct intersection between online discourse and real life than there used to be 10 years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 06:22 PM
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What's your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 05:55 PM
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I feel like a lot of gender war discourse, not just here but in general, tends to neglect the material reality of things as to why certain attitudes or marriage patterns would've existed beyond one sex conspiring to make things that way. What I mean is (for an example), if you live in a world without access to fossil fuels and your only form of energy that you can use to make life a little easier is water, wind, or animal power, then partnering with someone where one of the main things they brin…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 05:41 PM
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Meanwhile, some lazy farmer slob in China could afford to stay a slob and not do anything productive with his life knowing the neighbor's parents will eventually marry off their daughter to him anyway. I don't think that's really true. China historically has had very intense polygamy with concubines and second wives being relatively common for high-ranking men. And tbh, China historically has been one of the most developed civilizations on Earth and the reasons for why Europe, specifically North…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 05:13 PM
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Some of the most misogynistic patriarchies in the world are polygynous with one man marrying and having children with multiple women, so that doesn't make any sense. From what I've gleaned, by and large monogamy is considered overall a good thing for society as it gives the average man a "buy in" for being a grunt and it reduces male-male competition to attract women, thus decreasing societal instability and turning (in broad strokes) male competitiveness to more fruitful for society endeavors.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 05:04 PM
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Imo women spend way too much time, money, and angst on their appearance to then turnaround and say that male attention/attraction is a non-factor when it comes to why they do what they do regarding their looks. The behavior doesn't match the rhetoric.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 10:23 PM
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I don't really get what the girl in the TikTok wants. My parents are effectively obligated to love me by both instinct and society, but I'm still supremely grateful for their love and support. The hypothetical boyfriend she's describing seems to take a girl on dates, pays for things, compliments her, etc., that's about what I'd expect a boyfriend to do. But Gen Z has a worldview heavily shaped by social media to an extent that they really don't appreciate so maybe that's what's going on here.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 10:27 PM
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Why should men work hard, pursue higher studies, work long hours and tolerate crap from their bosses when there is no cute wife to receive him at home? nor children who will say "Daddy" when he comes home? More should motivate men than just that. Especially since women are still very traditional with their preferences of a partner of equivalent or greater education and income, men dropping out will just create a more viscious cycle. That said, imo the government has really dropped the ball when …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 05:57 PM
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Nope. What happens if something happens to me or I lose my job? I shudder at the thought of being a stay-at-home dad, so I can't wish the same for my future wife. My mom and dad both worked they made it work...mostly.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/17 11:13 PM
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Tell me about lions.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/17 03:27 AM
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I'm hearing only positives.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 03:51 PM
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Third, there is a strong disconnect between women’s preferred work rhythms and the risky “diving catch” and “firefighting” behavior that is recognized and rewarded in these male-dominated fields. For god's sakes, "redoubled machismo" is basically being described as a highly intense environment where you've got to be on call on all hours of the day and you'll unfortunately may be the only woman on the team. Neither of those are insurmountable. Either make the cut or get out.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/17 02:14 PM
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The best job a man (or woman) can have is Anthony Bourdain's. The guy gets paid to travel all over the world to eat unique and delicious food, participate in the local culture, and form relationships with people in the places he's visited.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 03:48 PM
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"You ever wonder what it all really means?"
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/17 01:07 PM
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If she doesn't want to be touched by you, there's no love there.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/17 02:48 AM
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I FORGOT ABOUT THIS CRAZY MOTHERFUCKER
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/17 10:22 PM
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Someone once told me "time is a flat circle"...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/17 09:07 PM
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Not to be glib (and I oppose Trump's travel ban) but relative to what? Force marriages and thus spousal rape, needing a male guardian's permission to marry...that doesn't sound good.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 05:34 PM
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Same thing here. I live in Michigan, Ground Zero for the Rust Belt and I'm not surprised people went for Trump. After getting to know a lot of Trump voters as a minority, I really don't think that race/gender played more than 30% of a role in the decision making process. What Trump did in a way Clinton didn't was promise an end to the de-industrialization hell that had become an ever present ache in the Midwest.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 05:29 PM
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Why? You don't know how badly men wished they had what you have. You should enjoy it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/17 03:46 AM
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85% - 90%
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/17 10:52 PM
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I guess my "lack of empathy" is due to the fact that you're worrying about such higher level concerns than me that it almost seems frivolous. I'm trying to figure out how to have sex with okay-looking girls on the regular and you're worrying how to find the guy who's the right fit for you, never mind the sex offers. I mean, if I were in a genderswapped version of your issue, I'd fuck the girls that kept badgering me while still trying to lock down a "girlfriend material" girl. I get what you're …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/16 09:46 PM
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Michigan?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/16 09:09 PM
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Are you trolling? Because if your biggest issue is deciding which one of your many suitors is the one that you want to sleep with at any given time, that sounds pretty good. You're listing them like they're negatives, but I'm only hearing positives lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/16 08:35 PM
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Don't be a dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/16 10:46 PM
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OUT OUT OUT
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/16 09:40 PM
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They are prone to suicide, depression, substance abuse and early death. I'd honestly attribute all of that to homophobia in one form or another. Though American society has made great strides in gay rights in the past 10 years or so, our society isn't nearly as friendly or inclusive to LGBT people as it is to cis straight people. You're still more likely to be bullied and attacked if you're LGBT, the rape rate is a lot higher, you've got to deal with ignorant family members who might reject you …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/16 03:09 AM
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Allan needs to grow some balls is what he needs to do. A pill can't tell you how to do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/16 03:51 AM
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No.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/16 10:47 PM
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Rape is forced sex. Come on man, this is dictionary shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/16 04:20 AM
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No, she isn't just as a man who's raped isn't a virgin. But I don't see why that's here or there. The woman in that scenario has undergone a very traumatic experience, who cares about whether she's a virgin or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/16 10:37 PM
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If you think that men caring about if a child is theirs is a social construct, then you really don't know much about men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/16 07:13 PM
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I'm confused then. I'm talking about the issue of knowing a child is yours. In that case, polygny is superior to polyandry. What do you contend about this statement?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/16 06:01 PM
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That only makes it "fairer" to the male Doesn't that make it fairer in general then? The child is guaranteed to be the woman's in either situation. Take a polygynous unit and a polyandrous unit, both made of four people. In an age of no paternity testing, with the polygynous unit of one man and three women, all four people are assured of having children that are biologically theirs. But with the polyandrous group of one woman and three men, it's far more of a crap shoot. The children are going n…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/16 05:31 PM
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I think it's as natural for women to want more than one sexual partner at a time, but IIRC, there's a gap between how many more sexual partners men and women want, with women wanting 3-4 partners and men wanting 8-10 partners. And it should be noted that polygny is "fairer" than polyandry because the gap between having children is smaller and everyone is assured a child that's biologically theirs.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/16 04:38 PM
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Any anthropologist worth a salt would tell you that nearly all human civilization began as female dominant ones. I really don't think that's true. You could argue that nearly all societies begin as largely egalitarian with some men holding some ceremonial power that women don't hold. But the idea of an ancient matriarchal society is regarded as a myth.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/16 02:05 AM
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I don't believe in the "automatically believe the accuser" thing but here's the way I see it: if one person accuses you of a crime, that's whatever. But if several otherwise unconnected people accuse you of a crime, there's a much higher high chance you're guilty. He probably raped her.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/15 12:53 AM
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Women
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/15 11:32 PM
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Well damn, it looks like women hold all the aces when it comes to SMP. Sucks to be a young guy on the dating market and it doesn't look like things get much better as you get older.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/15 06:42 AM
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Why are you with someone who isn't emotionally supportive of you?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/15 05:12 AM
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Yeah. Shit keeps me up at night. But it sounds like you're aromantic and asexual so I suppose not having a romantic or sexual life would suit you well. It must be nice to not have those desires. Do you have good friends?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/15 01:51 AM
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But how? Couldn't you find someone by asking them?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/15 10:32 PM
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You may be asexual. Just Google "asexual" and you'll find plenty of articles for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/15 02:49 PM
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How does a woman become FA?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/15 02:43 PM
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People can change aspects about themselves but in my experience barring some major life event, no people can't change their basic personalities. The people I knew in high school are essentially the same people after four years of college. Their life experiences have shaped them but there's not a single instance where I meet them and I'm like "Woah, what happened?"
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/15 01:47 AM
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Do you have any articles that support that? Most of the young women I know are as career driven as their male counterparts.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/15 11:37 AM
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What is wrong with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/15 12:11 AM
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You can't claim "women are incapable of loyalty and have no empathy" and then endorse a terper who's knowingly fucking a married woman who dismisses his part in helping the woman cheat. It helps contradict your message.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/15 07:15 PM
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Gangbangs during summer abroad programs Really?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/15 05:26 PM
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Market's not as big.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/15 01:40 PM
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You gotta hustle when the odds are 1 out of 17.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/15 01:52 PM
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When does the power imbalance ever shift in favor of men?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/15 01:51 PM
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Are you being sarcastic? And if Cosmo isn't representative of women then Red Pill isn't representative of men, or at least I hope not.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/15 08:00 PM
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But then there's shit like Cosmo. I agree men are probably. .."thirstier" for lack of a better term but I don't think the gap is that large.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/15 07:07 PM
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Who the hell would marry a teenager?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/15 06:59 PM
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Then who are the hot girls marrying? And why would a hot guy purposefully marry a single mom or an overweight woman if they're hanging with the more attractive women? Don't ask me why, but I'm beginning to think you're trolling.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/15 03:32 AM
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How bad are things in Greece?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/15 12:02 PM
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Bullets don't care how hot you are. And keep in mind that with a death rate of over 20%, almost all men will have to have served in the armed forces so the regular categories of "alpha" and "beta" will have been distorted beyond recognition. So why would the dating market remain unchanged with so few young men compared to young women compared to the 50:50 ratio we have now? I look at it this way: even the men women figure they can more easily get if they can't get an alpha will also be in short …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/15 08:37 PM
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"Not all women are hoes! We're talking 20...25% tops."
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/15 08:13 PM
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But here's what I'm thinking, if + 20% of the young men are dead, then that means virtually ALL of the young men have faced combat, have killed people and seen people die and thus will be hardened as a result. Doesn't that mean that even the most "beta" of men not broken by the war will have become "alphas"? And if so, wouldn't that mean that the average man would be more attractive to the average woman? Or would that merely raise the bar for "alphahood"?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/15 04:13 PM
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Why/How do you think that would happen with such a lopsided gender ratio?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/15 03:26 PM
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What if biology stayed the same but men were expected to do almost all childcare with the exception of nursing as well as all the typically "male" things? How would society change then?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/15 06:54 PM
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Is getting women the right to vote now and bringing them into the workforce now considered a bad thing? Saying feminism hasn't done good things seems to be a woefully misguided statement. Edit: Why so many downvotes? Explain.
/r/MensRights08/05/14 03:57 PM
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Pretty much! My life would be more than just family life, but I want it to be a main component. Working my way up the corporate ladder and volunteering would also be things I'd really want to do. I'd have other things and hobbies going on in my life besides being a husband and a father. But yeah, if you want your life to consist of traveling the world or something else that gives you fulfillment, then that too is "being a man".
/r/MensRights29/04/14 02:48 AM
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To be whatever they want. It sounds cheesy but what else is there in today's age? I think that this is one of the benefits of the modern age. People feel lost because gender roles and rules that made sense for most of our history suddenly are a lot less rigid but at the same time, everyone has more freedom to do what they want. Myself, I don't have problem with protecting, working for and helping to provide for a future family. It appeals to me to know I would be needed and loved (one doesn't gu…
/r/MensRights28/04/14 05:00 PM
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I don't know if that's a very accurate reading. Women are praised at multiple points in the Bible and in the Bible, the personification of wisdom is a woman. Additionally, in one of Paul's letters, he writes that the world was doomed through Adam and saved through Jesus, implying that Adam was seen as being at least half-way responsible for the fall of humanity. And in Genesis, God curses both Adam and Eve for disobeying him, even when Adam tries to blame Eve as the reason for why he ate the fru…
/r/MensRights20/04/14 04:37 PM
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