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how would you pick up a bar girl out of interest? (there was a super hot new young one working in my local last night lol) What would you open with? What would your transition look like? I think the usual model of asking her about herself and making cold reads after opening her at work would just look a bit weird tbh lol
/r/seduction05/01/20 10:20 AM
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90% of the infields I come across are complete garbage. They're just a bit boring. Either, PUA opens a girl and she is very receptive (she clearly thinks he's attractive before he finished his opener). He basically speaks to her like a normal person (or if he's old school, he'll neg and make cold reads etc). But it's all kind of irrelevant. She's attracted. If he escalates smoothly and shows intent, he'll get the girl Or PUA opens a girl and she isn't remotely receptive to his open. He's not her…
/r/seduction04/01/20 09:02 PM
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I guess everything that needs to be learnt has already been written and is available for anyone who can use google to torrent the books and programs (RSD, Mystery, vin di carlo, mark manson, and a million others) Personally, I only care about people who show infield. Anyone can claim to be a seduction guru in an unregulated industry, unfortunately. (Of course infields can be faked, but it's usually slightly obvious. On more than one occasion I felt that an infield looked weird and they were late…
/r/seduction04/01/20 08:36 PM
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What lacks from my approaches is any form of intent or direction Just open her and be like ''how's your night going?'' and then when she replies, tell her she's hot. You've now 'ran game' on her and have a damn good shot of seeing her naked if you are handsome
/r/seduction04/01/20 08:30 PM
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There's some strange guys out there. This story (and in particular /u/ivanalesi 's comment about how sometimes they don't even KNOW the girl!) reminds me of something that happened in school when I was young. I was chatting with the school psycho (who by the way got sent down for 9 years a few weeks ago) and his friend. We were waiting outside of the classroom for the year below to finish their lesson. Looking in, we saw some gorgeous girl kissing her boyfriend in the class as they were packing …
/r/seduction04/01/20 06:12 PM
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you're supposed to not be like the guy (not the OP) who was being all posessive over the girl who he wasn't even going out with.
/r/seduction04/01/20 06:07 PM
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good link. Pretty much on the money
/r/seduction04/01/20 11:11 AM
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MAX in a night. Probably 50? Overall. I'd estimate around 2000. Trust me, I know what's possible and what's just marketing etc tbh.
/r/seduction04/01/20 11:05 AM
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many many many lol
/r/seduction04/01/20 09:10 AM
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I think it kind of depends on what your definition of 'seduction' is. What you think is actually possible If you are from the school of thought that game is basically about finding out who thinks you're hot and that you have basically no influence on whether she is attracted to you or not (and i'd wager that that belief makes up the vast majority of the community nowadays), I think that direct game certainly makes sense. It's faster for one! You don't waste time on girls who don't think you're h…
/r/seduction03/01/20 10:49 PM
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interesting. I've never tried to game an Aussie girl. I feel like i'm having to throw all the teachings out of the window and try to do it ALL for myself from scratch like a scientist as, since you say, maybe the culture differences really are stronger than we're lead to believe (whenever I read someone reference something similar to my OP, everyone replies 'human nature hasn't changed. Mysterymethod/Mark Manson/whatever etc works perfectly on every girl'' kind of thing) I'd love to find a fello…
/r/seduction03/01/20 02:32 PM
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sounds about right lol
/r/seduction03/01/20 10:25 AM
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yep. About 90% of my lays are from Eastern Europeans here! haha
/r/seduction03/01/20 10:18 AM
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To be honest, even though the OP is getting a grilling, it IS annoying when nobody seems able to answer a question on this sub. People say ''we can't tell you what to say!'', but if he posted a field report and it went: OP: Hey. That cereal is awesome! I love it Girl: lol, me too OP: I'm Jason by the way - So, what do you do for fun? (and then imagine it all bombed from there. Maybe She went quiet. Maybe she gave the 'sorry, i've got a boyfriend' line or whatever) Everyone would be saying ''Dude…
/r/seduction04/07/17 08:56 PM
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Based on just that, it's likely that you're a good looking guy. If you are good looking, then yes, it's gonna be like fishing with dynamite and easy to get attention in clubs
/r/seduction04/07/17 07:59 PM
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I wonder what the bet way to open UK girls in bars and clubs is? Any UK guys here can share? US guys seem to advise by opening with a cold read, or by simply introducing yourself. As the article says, 'cold reading' doesn't really work as well on Brit girls. And As a Brit, I know that 'introducing yourself' (like, walking over to her and being like ''Hey, I'm Andy!')' would make you look like a weirdo. They always react like ''Errrr....And? Can I help you??'' (with an attitude) whereas US girls …
/r/seduction24/02/17 02:46 PM
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Most professional PUA's who do daygame seem to open very directly, in a similar way to what the OP plans to do, in fairness, though? Pretty much every open from every PUA udring daygame is basically ''Hi. I just noticed you from over there and thought you looked gorgeous wanted to meet you!''
/r/seduction24/02/17 11:24 AM
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If you're not hot though they're gonna think you're creepy. This might be where lots us are are going wrong in general! lol
/r/seduction23/02/17 08:19 AM
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Inner game in terms of what most people relate it too is overrated in my mind. Lots of people say ''Get your life sorted out and the girls will start approaching you!!'' - This couldn't be less true in my eyes. Sure, I know people with 'classically 'good lives' (good career, hobbies etc) who get laid lots, but I also know people with 'classically good lives who never get laid. In my opinion, inner game is simply 'confidence' BUT(!!!!) it has to be specific to talking too and attracting girls!!! …
/r/seduction22/02/17 03:20 PM
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the best advice i can give is to just give up and focus on other aspects of your life I have thought about just giving up a few times. Especially after nights where I might get 12 'instant rejections' in a row. But then, I went through a long patch in my life where I didn't even try to get girls at all and was just, as you say, going about my life and enjoying myself. I STILL didn't get any girls! You naturally start to wonder if it's just that one is incredibly physically unattractive, despite …
/r/seduction22/02/17 09:14 AM
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I'm just very curious, as you have noticed. It's like, if I took some and then went gaming, and noticed that every set was no longer rejecting me and I was able to hook them and build a connection etc, then I'd know that my current failure is likely not due to my looks or my 'outer game'/words I use, and that it must be some sort of vibe/anxiety issue that the girls feel. I'm looking into 'bitcoins' as we speak, lol
/r/seduction21/02/17 08:54 PM
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shouldn't be remotely hard to find for free online.
/r/seduction21/02/17 08:21 PM
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the pills might not be the “easy fix” you are looking for. True. They might not be. But then, maybe they MIGHT be! That's an exciting possibility for someone like me. Some things in life you have to work for, some things in life are WORTH fighting for I've already bought all of the various self help books and cognitive therapy books etc. They don't help me. I don't really hav much faith in therapy. I've done all kinds of things on the back of various 'inner game' advice such as no fap, 5 day per…
/r/seduction21/02/17 06:53 PM
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thanks. They like to push therapy in favour of pills in the UK, but i'll try to see if I can twist the GP's arm. And if not, there's always the dark web!
/r/seduction21/02/17 05:14 PM
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Well i've been cold approaching for over a year now, and i'm not getting results. I'm more afraid of never getting any success than I am of 'being anxious'. I'm not even certain that being super calm and with a complete absence of anxiety WOULD necessarily help, but it's getting to the point where i've got to try something! I don't want to be one of them guys who makes 10,000 approaches without a hint of success (yes. They are out there on certain pickup forums. I've read their journals!) And be…
/r/seduction21/02/17 05:10 PM
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I was offered therapy a while back. I really can't imagine it helping me, though. I doubt there's nothing that a therapist can tell me that i've not already read on various psychiatry forums and research papers etc. I've also read a number of 'self help' CBT books etc. I just feel as though therapy wouldn't be anything like as useful for me as medication.
/r/seduction21/02/17 04:58 PM
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benzos aren't given out in teh UK anymore, anyway. I have always had some social anxiety, though. I'm not sure if I have depression. Maybe I do. I always thought it meant 'being sad', but after reading a bit about it, that's not necessarily always the case. What meds do you think are good (since you don't recommend benzos)
/r/seduction21/02/17 04:37 PM
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My friend had a legit 360 after taking MDMA as I mentioned. Fomr nearly virgin to quite a player in no time at all. Amazing transformation. I'm not willing to go teh mdma route yet, but possibly would try it after prescribed meds
/r/seduction21/02/17 04:35 PM
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I dunno. Fairly desperate? Like 8 out of 10 on the desperate scale? but in fairness, if there was a magic pill that made girls want you, every guy would take it, so...
/r/seduction21/02/17 04:31 PM
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Well, I was talking more about presciption medication. I'm sure my GP would prescribe me something for anxiety if I asked him. On the other side (and not something i'm endorsing) I'm VERY curious about things like MDMA. I've heard of a number of people who claimed that it seems to 'cure' them - In some cases permanently! A guy I used to work with credits the drug for completely eliminating his anxiety around girls. But yeah, I guess it'd make sense to go the legal route first!
/r/seduction21/02/17 04:16 PM
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But what if I spoke to my gp and he advised me that I have SA, and was willing to give me pills. Is it not possible that they would help? I mean, I used to have a job where I had lots of interactions with others. the exposure therapy never really made it MUCH less anxiety inducing, and it certainly didn't help much when it came to approaching girls! I wonder if lots of us have anxiety, and all of the positive thinking and 'interaction with others' won't really change much since maybe it's an act…
/r/seduction21/02/17 04:14 PM
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and I'm not terrible looking anyway... I'm not having a go at you, but everyone on this sub who gets laid seems to have that caveat! lol - I wanna hear about ugly guys getting laid (in real life - not RSD instructors who might be using actresses) to show me that 'game' works! Grrrr Anyway, how old are you? What do these lays typically look like in terms of the process? Just random travelling girls throwing themselves at you? Or you approach local girls in day game/night game? And what is your st…
/r/seduction04/02/17 09:40 AM
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You are thinking of Dainel Blake. One of the biggest names (Tom Torerro) was ALSO exposed to be using actresses (leaked emails between him and the actress forced him to 'come clean') Many others have some serious question marks over their heads, too! I have no opinion on this guy, but it's always wise to remember that this is the internet, and this is how these guys actually earn their living! So there is pressure and motive to produce results which are probably not even possible in the real wor…
/r/seduction03/02/17 09:05 AM
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I've already 'learnt game' lol. But the results aren't coming and I want to get laid before I get too old to get a hard on! :)
/r/seduction02/02/17 09:29 PM
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I spoke too a guy who worked at a hostel and he had similar tales. Got laid with a new girl more or less every night. It kind of makes you think that 'location/situation/logistics' is even more important that looks AND 'game'! I bet every guy who works at a hostel gets laid whenever he wants, yet I bet some of them have close to zero 'game'
/r/seduction02/02/17 07:30 PM
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How old are you? I'd love to be able to get young girls, but i'm nearly 30 and am losing my hair, lol. Also, I am never around young girls. (other than on Saturday nights when I try my luck with them, but they're not interested unfortunately) How do you manage it? What are your secrets? (or are you also young and good looking?!) In for pro tips! :)
/r/seduction02/02/17 06:48 PM
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It seems like in certain environments (clubs full of young hot girls), it's like a real life 'tinder', whereby looks really are very important, and you can expect instant rejection if you are not what they deem to be attractive. It's said that as a society, we are more looks obsessed than ever before, so maybe it's to be expected!?
/r/seduction02/02/17 01:48 PM
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Semantics do not change what took place I tend to think 'rejection' is an interaction that leads to NOT getting laid. Some people are much kinder to themselves and only consider it a 'rejection' when she basically shoots you down and tells you to go away within a few seconds of opening. Even if I open a girl, make her laugh maybe get a makeout but it fizzles out and I can't get any further , I call that a rejection. Others seem to call it a success. But according to my definition, i'm on about 4…
/r/seduction30/01/17 09:43 AM
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She was super flirty from the get go and chased me when I took a step back. Knew things were going well when she said "do you want to get an über back to yours?" Game is about getting the 'yes' girls and the 'maybe girls' She sounds like she was 100% into from the very beginning (a huge 'yes girl'), but kudos on closing her nonetheless Nice one
/r/seduction30/01/17 09:11 AM
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this is me! Obviously I fear rejection to some extent, but when i'm with my friends on a night out, i'm mainly concerned about the reaction of my friends! I think that this is because I know their beliefs (that in order to get girls you need to be very handsome) and so I know that THEY think i'm wasting my time when I approach a hot girl, and so I feel extra pressure, and when the hot girl inevitably rejects me, I feel like i'm proving them right and that i'm making myself look like a desperate …
/r/seduction29/01/17 11:35 PM
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Actually, i'd probably say 'no'. Guys tend to like me and I can make guy friends easily enough if I try. Girls don't tend to hate me either, but I just can't make them 'attracted' to me.
/r/seduction29/01/17 02:16 PM
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I don't necessarily disagree. But I do wonder why you often put an idea out there, but don't elaborate. Or elaborate one post at a time when pushed. Why don't you start a thread about 'understanding women' and actually explain specifically what you think people need to know, how to find the answers, and how to apply it with examples or something?
/r/seduction08/12/16 09:50 PM
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It's not actually that bad. I read a number of forums where people make 30 cold approaches a day and typically only get a few dates per week which have a 30% chance of converting into a lay, so you could say they make 210 approaches for a date or two and a possible lay. He had 400 approaches and a lay and some makeouts. Maybe he only approaches a few times per week on nights out? It sounds like he's read some RSD stuff. He could probably tell you why 'these things' work and why women respond the…
/r/seduction08/12/16 09:36 PM
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I believe that the problem you have is that you do not understand women. You have no idea what they want. I believe you need to take some time out and actually study women Study women? I worry that the OP will now waste a year reading ''female psychology'' books that won't help (like other advise didn't seem to help). Or worse (as mentioned before me), sit around on a bench, taking notes on how women walk and the food they eat, as if they are Silver Back Gorillas!
/r/seduction08/12/16 09:19 PM
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how did you get better at pulling? what helped the most? I've only slept with a small handful of girls and i'm pushing 30. It just feels hopeless. I've read lots about game, I approach girls everytime i'm out and try everything, but nothing seem to 'work'. I'm guessing i'm just not very good looking, but i'd like to experience having a normal sex life with different girls before I die!
/r/seduction08/12/16 03:18 PM
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I don't think he's lying. There was a guy on bodybuilding.com who claimed to have banged even more and everyone called him out until he started providing lots of proof (tinder covnvos/pics/even vids of him smashing girls in his apartment!). He was pretty goodlooking and lived in a kickass apartment in the centre of the city that hois parents bought him. It hurts, but some people really are living the dream!
/r/seduction26/11/16 11:09 AM
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I'm not sure what to make of it as I get zero matches. zero. I swipe all my 'likes' everyday and have gone months without a match. It's amazing. If you are very good looking and live in amajor city, then tinder seem to be like having access to free prostitutes since it seems so easy for some. It's strange, though. When I very first got tinder, I got a 'normal' number of matches. (No dates, though, but whatever) I opened a 2nd tinder account using my same phone and a new facebook profile and pret…
/r/seduction25/11/16 05:42 PM
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I think it's a good product (better than pimp in my opinion) However, the price tag is a bit much, but then these products always are when they first come out.
/r/seduction25/11/16 11:11 AM
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I definitely agree that he got better looking with exercise and style, but he was obviously good looking before, too. The girls at work said he 'looked like a young Tom Cruise' in a before pic when he didn't have his beard (I can kind of see it now, too. Never noticed before) and just 'plain hot' in his afters when he had his mid length beard and shaved/blended sides with more casual fashion.
/r/seduction24/11/16 08:21 PM
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I appreciate your comment. I lift weights 4 times per week and play soccer twice. I eat pretty much only lean protien and veggies and fruits. I try to limit sugar. I shower twice per day etc. But i'm not 'handsome', and would need surgery to become so.
/r/seduction24/11/16 05:18 PM
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Will you make this your routine now? Like, you will ALWAYS open girls like this on a bus if they have an earphone in? Cheers
/r/seduction18/11/16 01:00 PM
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I picked up a girl by pretending to be her blind date once and it worked. But are you saying that I should always use that sort of open, since it's different from what most guys do? Or maybe create a set of 'weird' openers that I can use in each situation so as too avoid just opening by saying 'Hey. I thought you were cute, wanted to say hi'
/r/seduction18/11/16 12:59 PM
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I wouldn't know about any of that stuff! haha. Just because my friend gets laid 1-2 times per day, i'm basically a 30 year old virgin, as i've only slept with a few girls in my life. I live vicariousoly through him! I just don't have his handsome looks unfortunately, and as hard as I try with 'game' it doesn't seem to work for me. Not to worry! Despite his endless hot pussy, he doesn't even seem all that happy, whereas I get zero (no tinder matches at all, either) and yet, in general, i'm a fair…
/r/seduction18/11/16 09:10 AM
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Dunno. He likes them more I guess. They're not ALWAYS teens, but the vast majority are. I think he just likes the big age gap and maybe they're easier to manipulate into sex without having too 'impress' them.! He send me some awesome pics, though. What a life!!!!
/r/seduction17/11/16 09:28 PM
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being good looking is the main thing there. By friend fucks between 7-10 girls per week on tinder. Has done for AGES! All super hot, too. Stunners. He doesn't even go on dates. Just gets them round for sex, and makes it clear in the online convo that that's what's gonna happen so that there's no expectation of him having to wine and dine them. He works from home. Usually bangs one hot teen in the day and then a different teen in the evening. (and he's pushing 30)
/r/seduction17/11/16 09:13 PM
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when you're being all 'fun', how do you show intent? Just through touch? Do you ever compliment the girl? Tell her you think she's hot? Or do you do the opposite and pretend not to fancy her? Sometimes I have long interactions with girls and it's all fun fun fun, but nothing comes of it. Not sure what the best way is
/r/seduction16/11/16 10:17 PM
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Not sure. The confusing thing about 'game' is that there is so much information and lots of rules, that it would follow that certain things are 'wrong' to say, and certain things are 'right'. But then, in the same breath, we are often told on seddit ''It doesn't matter what you say, but it's how you say it'' And then, recently there was a thread about what the 'correct' response to ''what sort of girls do you like'' should be. In it, one of the mods made it clear that unless the answer followed …
/r/seduction15/11/16 04:11 PM
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I'm about 1 year in. Hundreds and hundreds of approaches. One lay, which amazingly was pretty much my first ever cold approach. Beginners luck, I guess. PS - I'm old, and hitting on girls half my age, as that's what I find attractive. But I really don't seem to be improving much if i'm honest. I seem to be better at getting instant makeouts in clubs as a result of being 'braver', but it never leads to anything. And when approaching girls in bars, I still struggle to hold their attention at all a…
/r/seduction15/11/16 01:04 PM
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27? So are you able to bang 16 year olds easily? If so, how do you meet them, and what does your game look like? I need to learn from you if you have success with them. Be detailed! :) Youngest i've had recently was 18, and i'm older than you!
/r/seduction15/11/16 10:47 AM
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I don't know if he always does, but he DEFINITELY has before. A few weeks back he banged a girl on her 16th birthday within about 15 minutes of meeting her, and he told her he was like 24, lol how old are you?
/r/seduction14/11/16 11:45 PM
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Nothing wrong with 16 years olds! (as long as it's legal!) 16 is legal here, and it doesn't matter how old you are. One of my friends is lucky as hell to be blessed with legit model good looks, he is 34 (looks a bit younger though, i'd say) and he is always banging 16 year olds.
/r/seduction14/11/16 10:58 PM
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???
/r/seduction13/11/16 07:12 PM
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how so? They come right out and tell the girl that she it hot and that they think she is attractive for example? (seems to be frowned up on here as it's said to weaken your position and shows a lack of social skill) Give me an example of how an interaction with a stranger might look with one of your slayer friends.
/r/seduction04/11/16 09:21 AM
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I take it you are referring to an actual conversation as opposed to simply opening (where 'hey' will supposedly do) I have some problems here too with stranger.s in bars - ''How is your night going?'' is what my brain defaults too. However, it sounds like you're talking about people you already kind of know? That should be a fair bit easier
/r/seduction03/11/16 06:16 PM
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Agree. I liked her story, but getting her number from a friend and the bit where he just asks to come around would lead to radio silence for most guys, even if you had have spoken to her a lot more in the initial interaction than he did. Guy is probably a very handsome mofo who gets lots of girls and she was already into him. Also just starting to touch her hand out of the blue after 30 mins whilst silently watching the movie and not saying anything? That would get a ''what are you doing?'' reac…
/r/seduction03/11/16 05:44 PM
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This is not going to help people who are here seeking advice on the actual conversations lines you need to use in such situations this is where I think I go wrong. I just don't know what to say most of the time. Even though everyone says 'it doesn't matter what you say, it's how you say it' at the end of the day, we use language to communicate. I really feel as though certain 'lines' could probably benefit lots of us so much. Maybe a certain 'line' after you've been kinoing and you want to go fo…
/r/seduction03/11/16 12:00 PM
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Dunno but I have a BAD resting bitch face which I actually think makes me appear unapproachable and doesn't help me at all. At the same time, I don't want to look like a grinning moron. And If I slightly smirk to try to make my lips look more neutral, I look a little odd! It's annoying. My face betrays me. I've considered surgery to get it fixed. Something like a corner lip lift.
/r/seduction03/11/16 11:06 AM
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Why everybody here relies on canned materials? I actually think it's the opposite? Canned material is not recommended at all here from what I gather. Although, i've started to think that it's the only way that I will be able to stay in set for more than a minute or two and will likely start playing with some routines soon. Otherwise it's like i'm out of things to say very soon since I only get one-word-answers which makes it hard to have a conversation. I think I could use them on dates, too. Ma…
/r/seduction03/11/16 09:22 AM
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what did you do wrong last night in your opinion?
/r/seduction02/11/16 11:39 PM
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"snapchat me that pussy" ''OK!!'' haha - these girls!
/r/seduction02/11/16 10:09 AM
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I'm 32 and made out with an 18 year old in a club on Friday. Couldn't get the bang, though :( I probably look about 29. I do feel as though time is running out, though, which gives me a genuine panic in my stomach! I've had very little success with girls my whole life. I also tend to only really find young girls attractive (18-25 sort of thing) and I just feel an urgency to start getting laid lots which just isn't happening despite my best efforts! I have made a few improvements in my game, but …
/r/seduction30/10/16 09:53 PM
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Might be unrelated, but the 'Dr' in the following conversation is actually a computer program: Read the following conversation between a young woman and a doctor: Young woman: Men are all alike. Doctor: In what way? Young woman: They’re always bugging us about something or other. Doctor: Can you think of a specific example? Young woman: Well, my boyfriend made me come here. Doctor: Your boyfriend made you come here? Young woman: He says I’m depressed much of the time. Doctor: I am sorry to hear …
/r/seduction29/10/16 11:10 AM
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How might an interesting conversation that is 'fun' look like, though? I mean, you can make assumptions about their jobs, but do people really want to talk about work when they're not working? I try to implement the whole 'make assumptions' thing, but I still fall at the same hurdle, it seems. hypothetical example; - imagine you're in a bar: ''Hey! I'm jack'' ''Oh. Hello. I'm Kelly'' ''So what brings you here tonight?'' ''just felt like a drink'' ''Yeah, me too!.....I'm gonna guess that you work…
/r/seduction26/10/16 02:04 PM
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this is my problem! Everyone at the meetup events seems to be so much older! I want to meet people aged lke 18-26, but no people that age are on meetup! They have actual social lives, lol
/r/seduction21/10/16 12:25 PM
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I find that even if I try to stay in set, if they give a bad reaction from the outset, then they simply walk away even if I don't, lol. Do you just ramble after a bad reaction after you open? Ask questions? Do something to tease/them, make them laugh?
/r/seduction21/10/16 10:06 AM
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yeah, i'm saving. Thing is, orthagnatchic surgery will cost about 80k and since I earn around minimum wage, it won't be easy. I'm looking into some 'camouflage' surgeries though which might make me a bit more handsome and even though expensive, somewhat more affordable
/r/seduction21/10/16 08:35 AM
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should have hardly any face fat Problem I have is that I have a 6 pack, but my face is still chubby. This is due to simply having bad bone structure. (small cheekbones/chin and recessed jaws which means the soft tissue isn't supported properly and so the face looks undefined) That's what almost nobody in the 'everyone can be good looking' camp don't seem to realise. A lot of us need lots of surgery to have a good looking face. Even things like having a huge nose can put girl off and can't be fix…
/r/seduction21/10/16 08:07 AM
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you cant pursue what wont be caught Can 'game' not change this?
/r/seduction09/10/16 10:31 AM
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I tried to tone it a bit down, but now I was kind of shallow or boring ha! that sounds like me. I either try to be normal, introduce myself and ask her questions, and I feel as though i'm boring the girl to death, or I try to be high energy and tease her lots etc, and I end up coming across super 'try hard'! I need to make a joke to myself sometimes to keep me entertained. I don't do this for the girl I do this for me. As I understand it, this is good. 'Self amusement' is good, I gather. Brings …
/r/seduction08/10/16 05:58 PM
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I agree that you need to get out there and actually approach/practice, but at the same time, I really don't feel as though i've gotten any better in 250 or so approaches! Still can't small talk, run out off things to say after a few minutes, feel like i'm boring the girls etc. What I would love is too follow someone who has game around for a few nights to listen to what he says! How he makes the conversation fun from the beginning etc. I know there are infield vids, but most of them aren't in si…
/r/seduction08/10/16 02:31 PM
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depends who you listen too! The guys on goodlookingloser who are young and have banged around 100 girls say that they don't really have any game (they don't believe in it) but they approach like a madman - about 30-50 girls per day. With extreme numbrees game, you're bound to find one girl who thinks you're hot! This typically gets them about 1 lay per week from cold approach alone . However, much like you (and everyone else nowadays) their lays mainly just come from tinder girls who agree to co…
/r/seduction08/10/16 02:25 PM
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I don't really know where I stand on this subject if I'm honest. And I don't have enough reference experiences to off any valuable input as most of my interactions never get much past the open/small talk before they eject However, some time ago, I did managed to F close a young girl in a bar, and I don't think I done any kino at all. I did, however, at one point after we'd been talking for ages, get really close to her, looked her deep in the eyes, and say ''I only came over to you earlier becau…
/r/seduction07/10/16 10:07 PM
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they say what you say doesn't matter (it's how you say it), so it shouldn't be a problem.
/r/seduction07/10/16 02:33 PM
1

I'd like a rhino, too. (ps - nose in the pic isn't that bad at all, really. Mine is worse) it's fine from the front, and from the side it is like a 'roman nose' and certainly a bit big, but he is lucky that he has a fairly strong bone structure to make his face still look fairly balanced, which is good (I have a big nose as well as fairly weak jaw/chin, so it looks even worse than it is) Sometimes I think it's my looks that hold me back, really. I work out and have a nice body and dress nice and…
/r/seduction07/10/16 02:23 PM
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I saw a vid where squatting casanova done this on one of his pickup vids and it worked for him. He called her out and was like ''You're hard to talk too. I don't know why I'm bothering'' and then she finally opened up!
/r/seduction07/10/16 01:02 PM
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not with that attitude! :)
/r/seduction07/10/16 08:19 AM
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I always say the 'wrong' thing, like, what my mind naturally says as opposed to what 'game' says you should do. My stupid brain doesn't learn, lol. Sometimes In the heat of the moment, it's as though I may as well have never read a pickup book
/r/seduction06/10/16 06:32 PM
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if they were expecting some handsome male model mofo and some random normal guy turned up, she'd obviously not get with him , lol
/r/seduction06/10/16 05:13 PM
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how'd that work? You turn up on a date and they're like ''Errr,.....you're not teh guy in teh photo! bye!!'' or have I misunderstood you, lol Or did you mean simply as a way to see if my tinder is broken or not, and obviously not meet them! lol
/r/seduction06/10/16 05:13 PM
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rooshV IS one of the ones I was referring too where it seems that tinder makes up all the success, but it's actually another forum which is the main one I was referring too where the guys post lots of proof (I imagine you know who I mean, but doesn't really matter) Thanks for the well wishes. I do feel very hopeless at times like I just am not improving and that i'll be about 85 by the time something clicks! Might be a bit last to be banging 18 year olds at that point -game or not game! (despite…
/r/seduction06/10/16 04:18 PM
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I would love to see your statistics for it. I don't have any concrete stats. All I'm going by is my own social group of real life friends and the main pickup forums that I read. Probably about 80% online bangs I'd say Has it ever occured to you that most guys don't do approaches? It is so much easier to write a hundred mass mails to every living girl on an online dating site. Of course it's occured to me that lots of guys don't approach. And yes, it's easier to write mass emails. I'm not disputi…
/r/seduction06/10/16 03:53 PM
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I like the idea of introducing the girlfriend angle as a kind of 'future roleplay' at some point in the conversation. Problem is often that if i open in a normal way, i'm usually rejected way too early for that 'play' to be congruent. I think what's kind of missing are ways to 'spike' the boring conversation that seems inevitable with a 'regular' open, and very early into the conversation.
/r/seduction27/09/16 09:38 PM
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Oh, I wish! Don't get carried away! :) It's simply that the 'roleplay' method/open has worked for me a few times. In fact, it's the ONLY thing that has worked for me in terms of cold approach. However, it's still failed me a HELL of a lot of times, so it's no magic bullet! I just wish that i'd have had some success with the more normal/recommended stuff. (''Just say 'hi', idiot! It's not hard'' etc etc)
/r/seduction27/09/16 09:34 PM
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try and look at the " mechanical mechanism" that moved the conversation into a flirty space Well, with one of the aforementioned 'roleplay' approaches, I pretended that she was my date for the night! It was silly, but it allowed me to outright tell her I thought she was cute (since I'd picked her for our 'date') without outright saying it! It kind of made everything fall into place for me! The humour, the sexual intent...basically everything! Now, as I say, it doesn't always work, and sometimes …
/r/seduction27/09/16 08:24 PM
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That does make sense, yes. And it's definitely part of what I was already more or less aware of. When I roleplay (and when it's obvious that i'm roleplaying) I am able to give off a very confident, flirty vibe. I would pay good money to have one of those pulls on film, because it would look like an RSD pull and was completely out of character for me! I transformed into someone else and it was as smooth as hell! From open to my bedroon in about 90 minutes, even when I had one of her friends to co…
/r/seduction27/09/16 08:07 PM
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I think the reason this "gimmicky" opener is working for you is because you just act like you know them and you feel comfortable You could well be right there. I must just sub-communicate a lot better when i'm 'roleplaying'. I guess I also find 'small talk' a bit boring. And I assume that they find it boring too! I'd love to have some good interactions/reference experience from opening like how you do ''Hi, i'm xxx'', but so far, they have actually been the most awkward approaches.
/r/seduction27/09/16 06:11 PM
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It's not so much that I have confidence, but more that I just find it so much easier than 'small talk'. I can't even imagine in my head how i'd get a good/fun interaction from starting with 'hi....how are you? what's your name? bla bla bla'' But obviously I know some people are able too! However, the 'im late' opener couldn't even be used in lots of situations, so I need to find other openers that are similar but can be used in other situations where the 'late' opener would be completely out-of-…
/r/seduction27/09/16 06:01 PM
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Yeah, i've had a couple of fairly embarrassing rejections from that opener, but i've also had the same reactions from just introducing myself and saying 'hi'. It's just that for me, the gimmicky openers are the only things that have ever lead to success! After you introduce yourself (say in a bar) do yuo just start making assumptions about her, or ask her for her name/where she's from/where she's going that night etc? I think the roleplay type openers seem to bypass all the boring stuff and we a…
/r/seduction27/09/16 05:55 PM
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OK - Maybe I wasn't clear enough in my opening post, but it actually HAS worked for me! (obviously not everytime!). But both of my success (one night stands) with cold approach came from that opener and the other time was very similar opener (another type of 'roleplay' but basically the same) But despite the success, I feel a bit uneasy about using them sorts of openers. Very gimmicky. If i open with 'hi, i'm pathe' the girl is always defensive/on guard/bored! I'm just not sure whether to embrac…
/r/seduction27/09/16 04:30 PM
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Ah man, last night this stunning girl came up too me and was like ''Hi! You look familiar bla bla bla'' and I thought i'd won the damn lottery and she actually liked me, but then she asked for a cigarette from me, and when I said that I don't smoke, she went up to some other guy and got one from him. And then I saw her just go from group to group, collecting cigarettes! Really odd. You don't really expect that in a bar! lol. Drinks maybe, but loads of cigarettes!!? She was so hot, though. I keep…
/r/seduction25/09/16 07:38 PM
1

yeah, man! PM me
/r/seduction25/09/16 02:24 PM
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send me the natural, old boy! :)
/r/seduction25/09/16 12:15 PM
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Personally my INSTINCTS have always been to compliment hot girls and so i've always done it, even before hearing about 'game', however, my results with girls have always been very bad. Also, lots of apparent gurus seems to be very much against any kind of compliment. One of them told me off in a field report on a forum recently for opening a girl by telling her that I liked her glasses (which i did! lol) Not really sure what to think now. Too much conflicting advice.
/r/seduction21/09/16 08:20 AM
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even here, some of the more respected people seem to imply that reading pickup material doesn't help, so maybe there isn't really anything to learn and it actually is a numbers game. I think maybe the reason people say to 'practice' lots is not because you get 'better', as in, you start to understand some sort of psychology better and know what to say and when to say it etc, giving you the magic secrets to get with any girl, but simply because the exposure makes you less anxious over time, and a…
/r/seduction20/09/16 10:28 AM
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You need to go out and just do it. I mean, I'm obviously doing that. That's why I mentioned what I do differently. But without having the theory, just going out and approaching lots wouldn't really help much as you'd just do the wrong things over and over without knowing what yuo're doing wrong.
/r/seduction20/09/16 07:41 AM
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''Yeah! I think I actually came! Have you got a cigarette??''
/r/seduction18/09/16 02:04 PM
1

How did you open them? And how the hell did you find out she was a virgin? Did you outright ask her about her sex life or something? No girl has ever mentioned anything like that to me!!
/r/seduction17/09/16 08:05 AM
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Girl
/r/seduction15/09/16 03:34 PM
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I'm waiting for a friend
/r/seduction15/09/16 10:49 AM
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lol, i've read all the books and made hundreds of approaches. It's just an experiment. You don't have to play
/r/seduction15/09/16 08:24 AM
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To be honest, I kind of disagree, but these discussions happen every few days here, so I kind of don't want to get into it. I agree, and I DO think that average looking guys with great social skills can get laid. I also think that if you are ugly (think bald, massive nose, tiny chin, huge ears, very short etc etc) then you will struggle big time, with all of the 'game' in the world. (the problem on this sub is that people assume ugly just means 'fat' which is easy to fix) And I also KNOW that if…
/r/seduction15/09/16 08:22 AM
1

"Ok...?...." (looks slightly confused, but also mildly amused)
/r/seduction15/09/16 08:13 AM
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Just for fun and for us all to learn.
/r/seduction15/09/16 08:11 AM
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Being physically attractive makes it all 10x easier. That's all there is too it
/r/seduction15/09/16 08:00 AM
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"Ok" (backs away slightly, as if you have invaded her personal space)
/r/seduction15/09/16 07:53 AM
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hi (slight look of ''who are you and why are you talking to me'', but nothing overly hostile)
/r/seduction15/09/16 07:50 AM
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Neither
/r/seduction15/09/16 07:50 AM
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But isn't it a kind of catch 22? i mean, lots of people have confidence in general, and a great job, and everything is good, but they are crap with girls and never get laid. So as a result, they aren't really 'happy'. They are angry about never getting laid. Never getting laid leads to a lack of confidence when talking to girls. And that leads to having no 'inner game'. So you can't get girls without inner game, but you can't get inner game without getting girls?? Bit like trying to get a job wi…
/r/seduction14/09/16 08:56 PM
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by inner game, do you mean like, a good job and general confidence? Because I keep reading here about people with great jobs nad lots of hobbies and friends etc, but who can't get laid. I think outer game is much more important (and obviously good looks)
/r/seduction14/09/16 08:41 PM
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I was thinking about the looks/game things earlier. Particularly as I was on the rooshv forum, and there's a small handful of guys who post in the 'i just got laid' thread, and they post nearly every day. So, banging like 5 new girls per week supposedly. And then there's the rest of the forum who either get a little, or none. I find it hard to believe that their 'game' is so much better than everyone elses, and it must be down to the fact that they are likely very handsome! I mean, 'game' isn't …
/r/seduction14/09/16 06:32 PM
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I'm most certainly not trolling. Didn't mean it to come across like that. Surely a person who is pretending to be confident can copy teh way a confident person behaves, especially in a matter of seconds it takes to say ''Hi, how's it going''. I'm asking how. I'm guess a mixture of smiling, open body language, not sure about the actual inflection of the voice, though - probably a downward inflection..?.. In fact, one of the mods here recently described game as 'mimicing the behaviours of very con…
/r/seduction14/09/16 12:25 PM
1

how you say stuff How should one say 'hi, how's it going?' - Be as detailed as possible in terms of inflection, volume, expression, eye contact, body language etc
/r/seduction14/09/16 12:02 PM
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Hopefully i'll get some more answers, but if not, i'm willing to field report them sort of questions tonight when I go out to bars. Damn. I'm not sure i'd bother! I think you'll shoot yourself in the foot by walking up to a group of girls and asking ridiculous stuff. Lots of guys out there are getting laid, and I don't think they go up to girls and try to think of the silliest things they can say. It will either make them think you have zero social skills or are on a dare or something, but it wo…
/r/seduction13/09/16 07:54 AM
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It seems that tinder is making up a huge percentage of peoples lays from what I read on various forums. Maybe day game/night game is no longer necessary?! Just match, and then screen for girls who are willing or meet you at yours or a hotel, and then zero game is required for the sex
/r/seduction12/09/16 11:21 PM
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I've been wondering about this recently. Even on pickup forums, it seems that the only guys getting laid lots are doing it all through tinder. Is 'game' actually required when using tinder, though? I mean, I guess sometimes you still have to impress them on a date, but at the same time, I have friend who match with girls on tinder, arrange to meet in a hotel room, and just literally have sex straight away without exchanging more than 2 words - so I don't think you can call that 'game'?!
/r/seduction12/09/16 09:26 AM
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compared to UK girls, they are the friendliest little things i've ever seen! It's more to do with the culture of talking to strangers in general. UK people really need to know someone before they open up at all. Even now, some girls are almost shocked when a stranger come up to them and says 'hi'. I have never in my whole life had that reaction from American girls, both here, and when i've been there. Now, going back to that girl, I kind of wonder whether i'm just jumping the gun. She hadn't rea…
/r/seduction12/09/16 09:23 AM
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Sounds like you are on the right track. You successfully introduced, integrated and led the group to a new place, all with a humorous frame of mind. Yes, i'm relatively happy with how the basics of it all went. But I still think that a 'stage' was missing. Like, I tried to tease her and be playful, and used kino etc. Now, the kino wasn't always easy, because the girl I wanted (after the other 2 left) was a fairly quiet girl. I found it hard to find 'reasons' to touch her whereas with one of the …
/r/seduction11/09/16 04:26 PM
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OK, i'll consider breaking that 'rule' I think. And yes, i'll try to ask the question in a way that comes from a place of curiosity to help it not come acorss as a pickup line. Cheers
/r/seduction11/09/16 04:20 PM
1

cool. More example of how you flirt? and escelate verbally? I imagine i'd come off as creepy if i kept telling her how hot she was. But then maybe the whole dynamic is a bit different since you know she already likes you since yuo matched on tinder, compared to just approaching a random girl in a bar which is the only time I try to 'game' girls I've never been on an actual 'date' and I imagine it'd be awkward as hell. Bit like a weird job interview! I want you to record your next date so I can l…
/r/seduction11/09/16 01:52 PM
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how does a typical 'date' go? Do you ask the usual 'get to know you questions and have to kind of 'game' her, or is no 'game' required nad it's more a matter of meeting up, and it's blatantly obvious you're gonna have sex since you know wyou like each other due to matching on tinder. Like, if you just meet in a hotel room or something
/r/seduction11/09/16 12:03 PM
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Roll my eyes and ignore them....like girls do :)
/r/seduction11/09/16 11:21 AM
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i love that film :)
/r/seduction10/09/16 03:23 PM
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What with the whole tinder thing nowadays, I wonder if this sub would do better to focus on how to 'behave' on tinder dates. Maybe there's some secrets. Some people meet lots of tinder girls and never get laid, and some guys bang every single match, without fail. That might be worth investigating. Conversation topics? general vibe/behaviour. How to make it fun? How soon should one get physical etc? I bet some peoples dates are awkward as hell, and some people just meet, have fun, and have sex wi…
/r/seduction10/09/16 03:13 PM
1

But then is it 'errors in your game', or is it 'you won't be everyone's type'? How would you know?
/r/seduction10/09/16 03:10 PM
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You're meeting a blind date at a basketball court where your friends are gonna be? Is that right? And you're asking for general help as to how to have a good date / not bore her etc?
/r/seduction10/09/16 10:18 AM
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I saw a video by simple pickup a while back. It was one of the guys filming himself, completely unedited, trying to pickup girls on the street for like and hour or so Now, this guys is supposed to be an expert. A coach! He got 100% rejections. Some were quite brutal. He never got CLOSE to even getting a damn number! It brought back a lot of memories of my nights out!! I'm not sure whether it made me happy or sad to see his lack of success! It made me felt like less of a loser which was nice, but…
/r/seduction10/09/16 09:51 AM
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Firstly, well done. Sounds like a good date and looks promising. However, you admit that you've done OK with girls in the past, so i'm not entirely sure why you are attributing the success to seddit? Is it because, in the past, you've been drunk whilst succeeding, and for whatever reason, your 'drunk self' is naturally fairly good at seduction, although you didn't really know why, but now you know why, you can replicate it whilst sober??
/r/seduction09/09/16 09:07 PM
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READ THIS MAGALUF THREAD: http://www.pick-up-artist-forum.com/lay-reports/week-magaluf-with-dilla-vt191768.html If he's telling the truth, sounds like he cleaned up with ease!!
/r/seduction09/09/16 06:30 PM
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Oh, man, I promise, you couldn't be more wrong! I'm not saying it's common, but it happens! My own brother designs electrical networks and earns big bucks. He goes out probably 5 nights per week. Pub quizzes, clubbing, gym, cinema with his friends, bowling with his work colleagues etc etc.....everything. He's always out doing something! But he just doesn't have the confidence to approach girls, and on the rare occasion when he does, it fizzles out in a minute or 2. And the girls in his social ci…
/r/seduction09/09/16 06:06 PM
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such as? I mean, maybe he was already doing those things (whatever those things are) Lots of people who come here to learn about this stuff aren't always complete losers who have never left their house and stuff. lots of posters here probably have good jobs and busy social lives and everything else, but they suck with girls for whatever reason. I personally don't even believe that the 'their stuff' matters, since i know a good handful of the biggest losers you'll ever know (at least in most peop…
/r/seduction09/09/16 01:06 PM
2

I am super flirty and sexually charged Any tips to avoid being creepy when you do that? Do you give compliments a lot? I tried being more forward than usual with a girl at the bar the other night, told her she was hot, and kept trying to be flirty with her etc, but I got the feeling that she was a bit wierded out by it all and probably thought I was a bit of a desperate sex-pest!
/r/seduction08/09/16 09:44 PM
2

if you just want to smash then smash, smash, smash haha, if only it were that easy!! I don't think that is his problem - it's convincing them to let him smash them!
/r/seduction08/09/16 09:19 PM
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thanks, matey
/r/seduction08/09/16 03:28 PM
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I drop the "did you study for the quiz" line and get a playful punch on the arm when she finds out I'm joking Nice. Did you think of that line on the spot or was it something you read? I would never think of that sort of line (although I only meet girls in bars as i don't go to school) but my brain wouldn't just think of something like that, unfortunately Maybe I need to find a big list of 'banter lines for bars', and try to memorize lots of them
/r/seduction08/09/16 08:33 AM
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i've found 'day bang' online, but not 'bang', yet. You have a linky link for me?
/r/seduction08/09/16 08:06 AM
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but wouldn't that just give the ugly girl her shot (at last!!) to have her friends see her rejecting someone, thus improving her social status in her group? And so unless you are extremely handsome, she's reject you?
/r/seduction07/09/16 05:27 PM
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i've never had a date in my whole life and I probably never will. People from teh UK don't really date much, anyway, but I would have no idea what to do! I mean, I guess i'd just ask them questions about their family, their job, etc etc, but I have no idea how that would be much fun, or how i'd be able to turn the date kind of sexual. Dating isn't much of a 'thing' in the UK. I mean, people only tend to go on a 'date' when they are already in a relationship and have already had sex, lol. At that…
/r/seduction22/08/16 05:41 PM
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yeah, it's like we tell ourselves that '''we're the prize'', but yet, we're always the ones doing the approaching and stuff. I suppose the second you approach a girl, you've confirmed that she is in fact teh prize?
/r/seduction22/08/16 03:02 PM
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