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| 1 | How often do you encounter a girl who knows about seduction techniques, and calls you out for being a PUA?Yeah I'd just calmly talk about it. But it's totally understandable if you freak out, especially if you're newer to it. It's like someone knowing you have green underwear on or something. :) | /r/seduction | 21/01/13 08:14 PM |
| 1 | How often do you encounter a girl who knows about seduction techniques, and calls you out for being a PUA?Not even one time, ever, in over 2 years. | /r/seduction | 21/01/13 08:10 PM |
| 2 | 20% of the men get 80% of the women (x-post /r/OneY)Men are much the same a lot of the time, so we shouldn't judge these women too harshly. Many times I've seen the tiny blonde at a bar get hit on by like 5 guys while her friends stand there staring at their shoes, even when her friends are pretty attractive too. But they just don't meet the exact standard that a lot of guys have in their heads. And I'm happy to scoop them up. :) | /r/seduction | 21/01/13 07:33 PM |
| 1 | What part-time jobs are great for improving social or seduction skills?Sales or some type of canvassing (knocking on doors to get donations to an environmental group or whatever). Never done this kind of work, but I imagine it would be useful. If you can convince someone to give you their money, you can probably get a girl to give you some booty. :) It would develop skills at striking up convos with random people, in other words. | /r/seduction | 03/01/13 09:00 PM |
| 2 | [FR] German train girl - help requested on follow up.Well done, m'boy. | /r/seduction | 31/12/12 08:32 PM |
| 4 | Been thinking about this for a while: Is approach anxiety just the biggest shit-test in the world?Somewhat, I'd say. Plus girls are just terrified of rejection. I've often deployed the Neil Strauss tactic for learning by asking girls "When did you first realize you were attracted to me?" after we've already banged. Lot of the time, the response is "You were so bold, you just walked right up to me." Being able to approach itself is the attractive thing. | /r/seduction | 31/12/12 05:44 PM |
| 5 | [FR] German train girl - help requested on follow up.Dude you have nothing to lose. Send the text. It takes 2 seconds. You're a fool if you don't. :) My experience sarging for like 5 nights in Germany this spring was kind of what you mentioned...guys are WAY less aggressive than in the US (where I live) and there seems to be less random making out and what-not. Also, the girls seemed to consider it far more significant that I spoke to them. Here, I can talk to a girl, bounce, and she never notices me the rest of the night it seems. There, she'd ke… | /r/seduction | 31/12/12 05:42 PM |
| 2 | What is everyone's game plans for New Years Eve?Avoiding lines (hate them), trying to find a moderately busy and not outrageously loud place. I have my best luck at such places. | /r/seduction | 28/12/12 10:12 PM |
| 1 | The 80/20 rules explained as it applies to seduction. Pay attention nice guys the world over.Yeah having been on both sides of it also, I'd believe it. I wish there were legit stats, but it seems highly likely that something like the 80/20 rule applies here (even if it's not actually 80%, if it's 50 or something). Unfair I guess, but life ain't fair, as they tell us in elementary school. And it is fair in a sense. People in PUA put a lot of work into it, and they tend to reap the rewards. If you put no work into improving your abilities, you get nowhere. Same with basketball, business, … | /r/seduction | 28/12/12 10:09 PM |
| 2 | A tip on picking up girls in a foreign country/with language barrierI've found that when language is a problem, communication becomes more about facial expressions/body language/touching. Not a problem, gents. | /r/seduction | 27/12/12 08:49 PM |
| 3 | The 80/20 rules explained as it applies to seduction. Pay attention nice guys the world over.It doesn't have to be quite like that. I have a very good job and am 26. But I also am into PUA and do well with it. It need not be an either-or, fortunately. And if you have a nice apartment and never lack for money, it seems to me even 20-something girls (one of my FWB's is barely 22) are into it. Beats a guy living in his mom's basement eating ramen, I guess. | /r/seduction | 27/12/12 08:46 PM |
| 3 | The 80/20 rules explained as it applies to seduction. Pay attention nice guys the world over.I think you're onto something (a small number of guys get a very disproportionate number of girls), but I don't think it's nearly as stark as you're saying. Lots of guys who aren't into pick-up have girlfriends and are getting some. But I think of the 6 guys in my building, including me. As far as I can tell (and I know them all), 4 never sleep with any girls. One of those 4 is gay, but still that's one man who isn't with any women. One other guy sleeps with 2 girls. I sleep with 2 girls, plus a… | /r/seduction | 27/12/12 08:43 PM |
| 1 | [FR] Went hard as fuck at end-of-year party. Still rattled.Yeah that may not be such a good situation. But mine is a good tactic in general, I think. Good luck to ya! | /r/seduction | 25/12/12 01:00 AM |
| 1 | How old are you?26, been at it about 2.5 years (started slow, and it really snowballed). Took probably 2 years to get very comfortable with it. Went from barely ever getting any to having two fuckbuddies currently and other random hook-ups whenever possible. This shit does work. | /r/seduction | 22/12/12 04:07 PM |
| 8 | [FR] Went hard as fuck at end-of-year party. Still rattled."out of fucking nowhere we start make out in the middle of the god damn street. We did this for a good 30-40 fucking minutes." Nicely done, but you should've gotten her back to your house long before that. You never want to be making out with a girl in a public place that long. I say that not for reasons of decorum but because you want to be leaving with her when her attraction is very strong and it's early on, not after she's already getting bored. Strike while the iron is hot, get her home, an… | /r/seduction | 22/12/12 04:02 PM |
| 1 | Some little things that changed in my life which resulted in a lot more girls flirting with me."seeing chat windows start opening up on Facebook with girls chatting with me and girls liking my photos and status updates a lot more" Go for actually getting laid. "Likes" on facebook are irrelevant. | /r/seduction | 22/12/12 03:57 PM |
| 2 | Same night lay with a girl who trains at my gym, and goes to my school. How do i make it clear that i don't want more?Not fucking her again should send the message just fine. Who needs to say anything? | /r/seduction | 17/12/12 07:23 AM |
| 1 | What about the sedditors that have lives?Thanks. That's really how it got to feel after a while. I heard a term for it. Not approach anxiety but "approach apathy." I think there is a difference. | /r/seduction | 15/11/12 02:10 PM |
| 2 | What about the sedditors that have lives?I did 3 nights a week for a long time and now almost always just 2 (but never less than 2 either). I think I'm better now than I was then. Results are certainly greater. I don't have so much approach fatigue and am usually actually excited that I get the chance to go out, rather than thinking "fuck, gotta go out and hit on chicks again." | /r/seduction | 14/11/12 01:57 AM |
| 2 | How to deal when she says she has a boyfriend?I usually say "that's cool," chat for another minute or two to avoid seeming too rude, and bounce. Waste of time. | /r/seduction | 14/11/12 01:41 AM |
| 1 | 3 Reasons Why You Shouldn't Drink When You Go OutI love the idea, but one problem: if you come into places over and over and buy little or nothing, they're not going to let you in anymore. Especially if the place already has a line out the door and they could make more money letting in a paying customer. Am I wrong? | /r/seduction | 06/11/12 05:42 AM |
| 3 | Waiting for a date in a bar, how to stay in frame?Have all new girls meet you at your house, and then you go somewhere. That way, if you're waiting, you're doing so on your own couch, comfortable. :) And if they don't show, no worries. I always do this now. If I haven't gone out with her at least once before, she's coming here or she ain't seeing me. Mystery Method recommends it anyway. Have her come in briefly while you get your stuff, then go. Bringing her home after the date isn't so weird then...it's a place she's been before anyway. | /r/seduction | 02/11/12 07:01 AM |
| 3 | I know that this sounds really silly but this just came to me last night. A lot of the girls at these bars, even the ones who get hit on a lot, get just as horny and sexually frustrated as guys do.God that's happened to me a lot, the superfast f-close and the chick drops off the face of the earth. | /r/seduction | 02/11/12 06:59 AM |
| 11 | I know that this sounds really silly but this just came to me last night. A lot of the girls at these bars, even the ones who get hit on a lot, get just as horny and sexually frustrated as guys do.So true. I've gone out to the bars with single female friends many times. Several have mentioned how long it's been since they've had sex, and how they'd very much like to. And to think of 2 at least, they never get approached ever. Ever. Not once when I went out with them. Decent looking girls...not gorgeous, not ugly. Before this, I assumed all women got hit on constantly unless they were spectacularly hideous. Not so. Thing is, 20 guys are going for the skinny blonde and no one's even noticin… | /r/seduction | 02/11/12 06:58 AM |
| -4 | The magic rule.I think this is completely useless from a seduction perspective. And lest we forget, that is the title and sole purpose of this subreddit. It is incredibly vague, trite, and has nothing whatsoever to do with having sexual intercourse with girls. Too much of this kind of "rah rah, you're the man, find your inner light and that's all you need to get laid" kind of shit here. Useless. You need more than "inner game" to get laid. You need some specific strategies, tactics, advice, etc. That is what w… | /r/seduction | 30/10/12 05:28 AM |
| 2 | [FR] Cavemanning, k-close, lots of failures but a fun time, and a last minute rescue by the fuckbuddyYeah my idea of a rough night is not getting laid...not interested in getting my ass kicked too. :) It takes time. At first, it was a lot harder for me. But after 2+ years, you really get into the swing of things. Plus I'm 26 and long out of college, so I can easily go to the bars or crash college parties. Best of both worlds, in a sense. I usually go to the bars though. If someone had told me to grab a girl, lift her in the air, and start making out with her after 2 minutes, I would've shat mys… | /r/seduction | 29/10/12 03:07 PM |
| 0 | Is there a /r/seduction for girls???God keep me away from that chick. | /r/seduction | 25/10/12 08:43 AM |
| 1 | Is there a /r/seduction for girls???Funny thing is, I live a very long way from the bible belt, and chicks still cockblock each other. I've gotten better at neutralizing it thanks to PUA, befriending the friends. Super helpful. But they still do it occasionally. What must they do in the bible belt? "Jeebus says you can't fuck my friend, heathen!" Who knows. | /r/seduction | 25/10/12 05:15 AM |
| 3 | Is there a /r/seduction for girls???Yeah I sometimes see the covers of these women's magazines like Cosmo. It's always some senseless bullshit. "3189 ways to tell what he's thinking!" or whatever. By women for women and useless. But I think doing these things will dramatically help any girl. And, aside from approaching guys herself, all are very easy. And even that will become easy with time. I think to myself "If any girl approached men as much as I do women, or as much as a lot of more experienced guys here, they'd have so many … | /r/seduction | 25/10/12 03:00 AM |
| 2 | Is there a /r/seduction for girls???Oh GOD! Why do women do this? Isn't the friend perfectly capable of rejecting a guy on her own? You have to wonder what kind of "friend" that is. If a friend tried to stop me from getting laid, I wouldn't hang out with them again. | /r/seduction | 25/10/12 02:58 AM |
| 2 | Is there a /r/seduction for girls???Well said man. | /r/seduction | 24/10/12 04:14 PM |
| 1 | Is there a /r/seduction for girls???Hmm, I'm not that way at all. I like straightforward. I am into her, she's into me. I guess it depends on the guy. | /r/seduction | 24/10/12 04:05 PM |
| 1 | Do you guys like my cheat sheet? I have little reminders on a 3x5 card I am going to use. Suggestions would be awesome.True. If "yourself" is "not getting laid," you need to not be yourself. At least temporarily, until you figure out how to make certain new behaviors your own. | /r/seduction | 24/10/12 01:44 AM |
| 2 | Do you guys like my cheat sheet? I have little reminders on a 3x5 card I am going to use. Suggestions would be awesome.I love "he who hesitates masturbates." I'm gonna tell that one to everyone. Excellent stuff. | /r/seduction | 24/10/12 01:43 AM |
| 5 | My phone is enabling my AAI used to have an iPhone. Dropped it in the toilet accidentally at a bar while semi-drunk about 1.5 yrs ago. Best thing I've done in a long time. I have, since then, had extremely simple prepaid phones that save me about $1000/year and do nothing but call and text. I swear to God, I think this has gotten me laid more than once. Cuz whenever I didn't feel like approaching before, out came the iPhone. And you can play on it forever. After checking my cheap phone for texts or whatever, I really hav… | /r/seduction | 24/10/12 01:41 AM |
| 68 | Is there a /r/seduction for girls???After going out to the bars with several female friends over time (and going out all the time myself), here's some concrete shit you can do: Go out with one friend. Many guys are intimidated by big groups of girls. Make the friend a girl, so people don't think you're together. Alone is even better, if you don't mind doing that. I always approach a girl who is unoccupied first. Don't get into too intense of conversations with your friend. Look around plenty. Have periods of silence. Girls in supe… | /r/seduction | 24/10/12 01:28 AM |
| 1 | How to treat a girl I met through a University 'DTF' Facebook page?Yeah if it works, be sure to put up a thread about it. This could be a great new option for dudes. | /r/seduction | 23/10/12 01:16 PM |
| 3 | How to treat a girl I met through a University 'DTF' Facebook page?Even the most no strings attached hookups involve kissing. Man, this makes me want to get Facebook if this shit really works. | /r/seduction | 23/10/12 03:52 AM |
| 1 | Where do you draw the line?Fuck her, obviously. I don't know the guy. | /r/seduction | 23/10/12 02:59 AM |
| 3 | [FR] Wild night. Tag team, and how far just being bold and escalating can get you.To each his own. It's exceptionally few girls I really connect with, and it'd be nice to get laid in the mean time. If I only slept with girls I really liked, I'd get laid only once every few years. Your assumption about her self esteem may be quite wrong. Maybe she just likes sex. Is that impossible for women, as possible as it is for men? And she may have all kinds of shit going on in her life, I have no idea. Because she likes intercourse doesn't mean she does nothing the rest of the time. An… | /r/seduction | 23/10/12 02:53 AM |
| 1 | So today Ive decided that I'm going to stop being a pussy and just start talking to girls, here is the plan. Any tips?Spot on. But isn't it amazing so many of us males need to work up to talking about the weather with a hot chick? I was the same way 2-3 yrs ago, but it just amazes me. | /r/seduction | 23/10/12 02:29 AM |
| 3 | [FR] First Bar Game # CloseGood start, but I've gotten several hundred numbers at the bars and almost none actually pan out. Work on escalating with these girls...touching more, getting to the makeout session, and getting them home for sex. This is a much more reliable way to get laid, I think. But it takes time to get good at that. No reason not to start now, though! | /r/seduction | 17/10/12 05:32 AM |
| 2 | [FR] F-close and a lesson in honesty/vulnerability [Long Read]Oh i know the frustration part, that's for sure! :) | /r/seduction | 16/10/12 04:39 AM |
| 3 | [FR] F-close and a lesson in honesty/vulnerability [Long Read]Dude, since you're asking for feedback, I'll be honest. Go ahead and pork this girl if you want, but if she's "bitchy" and talking about kicking you out just because you couldn't raise the flag once, I'd keep it purely physical and very short-term. Not a quality girl. I've had it happen plenty of times that I hooked up with a girl and couldn't get the sails up. It happens. Especially after drinking, or with someone you're not comfortable with yet. I just say "eh, whatever" and eat her out or som… | /r/seduction | 16/10/12 03:02 AM |
| 1 | What explains my terrible luck with phone numbers, despite good luck elsewhere?Not a bad idea. I've done something similar before with poor results, but only a couple of times. Should make it more of a regular thing. | /r/seduction | 12/10/12 11:26 PM |
| 1 | What explains my terrible luck with phone numbers, despite good luck elsewhere?This is smart man. I'm sure it'll feel a little weird doing it the first time or two, cuz it's different for me, but I'm trying this. | /r/seduction | 11/10/12 06:56 PM |
| 1 | What explains my terrible luck with phone numbers, despite good luck elsewhere?Interesting, actually discussing what your plans will be. For some reason, I don't think I've ever done that even once. No idea why...seems logical. If I were getting a number of a potential male friend, I might well do that. "We'll get some beers Saturday, it'll be fun" or whatever. I guess I'll have to come up with some date ideas before going out. | /r/seduction | 11/10/12 06:14 PM |
| 1 | What explains my terrible luck with phone numbers, despite good luck elsewhere?Timebridge, is that bringing the girl out of the bar to get pizza or something? They're gonna assume you're trying to sleep with them tonight and, for that reason, may not want to go. | /r/seduction | 11/10/12 04:22 PM |
| 1 | What explains my terrible luck with phone numbers, despite good luck elsewhere?That's a definite possibility. I'm getting that feeling myself. Shoot, I even had one a month or two ago, k-closed, she offers her number, still never answered. But the odds are better. | /r/seduction | 11/10/12 04:21 PM |
| 1 | Seddit, my boyfriend used to be a PUA, and I'm not sure how to feel about it.And making comments about other women when you're with a woman is a rookie mistake I'd say. I don't even do that in front of my FWB's. When I'm with them, my attention is on them. When I'm not, I can do what I want. I don't think you can go wrong showing people basic respect. | /r/seduction | 10/10/12 05:09 AM |
| 2 | Seddit, my boyfriend used to be a PUA, and I'm not sure how to feel about it.so he probably was kind of a wannabe. comfort yourself with that. | /r/seduction | 10/10/12 05:03 AM |
| 1 | I don't want as many women as I can handle. I just want one. Someone I can love and treasure until I die. How many other sedditors are looking for monogamy?Very much agreed man. | /r/seduction | 08/10/12 04:41 PM |
| 1 | I don't want as many women as I can handle. I just want one. Someone I can love and treasure until I die. How many other sedditors are looking for monogamy?Yeah some ppl don't really feel that though. I dont think I do. | /r/seduction | 08/10/12 04:29 PM |
| 1 | I don't want as many women as I can handle. I just want one. Someone I can love and treasure until I die. How many other sedditors are looking for monogamy?God you sound a lot like me, except I don't really understand why others want monogamy (unless they can get nothing else) or are jealous. | /r/seduction | 06/10/12 01:35 AM |
| 1 | I don't want as many women as I can handle. I just want one. Someone I can love and treasure until I die. How many other sedditors are looking for monogamy?I doubt I could be happy with only one woman for long. My longest relationship (this was before I got into PUA) was 11 months, and I was bored to death. Having a main girl that I like and seeing her for a while, maybe a year...that sounds okay. But I'd want others on the side. That's exactly what I'm doing right now, in fact. Plus, I have 0 urge for some "lifelong companion." I'm only 26 now, but I mean I don't want this ever, not even decades from now. I'd be bored with anyone over the course o… | /r/seduction | 06/10/12 01:30 AM |
| 1 | The other night, I was rejected...I felt horrible, like I wanted to cry. What is the BEST piece of advice you've ever heard that you think of whenever you're rejected?Rejecting someone isn't just not allowing conversation. Rejecting would also be allowing a lengthy conversation, being super friendly, and then turning down a date, for example. That's rejection. | /r/seduction | 04/10/12 05:29 AM |
| 1 | My mate needs to learn that women are normal persons?I honestly knew a guy who did exactly that, except I'm 26 and he was 50. I worked with him. It was so sad. He seemed really miserable, and admitted he married her largely because he was never very good with women and thought marrying a girl was the only way to get laid. I thanked my lucky stars for the PUA community and all it taught me. I can avoid that shit. Too late for him. | /r/seduction | 03/10/12 04:37 AM |
| 2 | Best Strategical ApproachA combo of looks and who I think I have the best odds with (whoever seems most friendly)...leaning towards best odds, assuming she's at least okay looking. And the hottest girls aren't necessarily the hardest to get, nor the less hot ones the easiest. I say that not as a matter of political correctness, cuz I could give a fuck about that, but as a matter of experience. | /r/seduction | 03/10/12 04:34 AM |
| 1 | [FR] Indecent activity outside a bar, k-close/#-close, and putting Mystery Method into practiceYeah I'm basically trying to use it to get same-nighters mostly, which may be a little off the path he lays out, but nonetheless. He's talking about seducing models and strippers and shit...I'm not. ;) I think you def have a good point about the heavy fooling around on the street though. Fun as it is, I think I'll stop that for now. I remember maybe 6-12 months ago, I was doing lengthy makeout sessions with girls most of the time when I went out. Not many were converting to actual lays, or even … | /r/seduction | 03/10/12 04:30 AM |
| 2 | [FR] Indecent activity outside a bar, k-close/#-close, and putting Mystery Method into practiceWhat if I wanted to get a same night lay with the girl? That was the original goal. Would you still hold off on the groping? And what's the theory behind that? ASD, me looking too much like just a horndog, ...? | /r/seduction | 03/10/12 02:30 AM |
| 1 | Halloween advice? costumes, routines, and tipsJust remember that opening on Halloween is the easiest of any weekend of the whole year. Ask what her costume is, or if it's so obvious that you can't ask that, ask where she got it. At that point, there's no excuse not to open every girl in town. I didn't even wear a costume last year. I had stubble, joked that I came as a guy who was too lazy to shave, got a surprising number of laughs out of that...I'll probably do the same this year. And I did fine just opening like mad and escalating fast. … | /r/seduction | 03/10/12 01:35 AM |
| 1 | The other night, I was rejected...I felt horrible, like I wanted to cry. What is the BEST piece of advice you've ever heard that you think of whenever you're rejected?Each girl I approach, I don't really know. So if they say no, it means basically nothing. I didn't lose anything and didn't expect much. I don't care about them or their opinions, given that I do not know them at all. Even if they are into me, it means little. They barely know me and just responded to a set of techniques I've honed over time, for the most part. It's fun, but not meaningful. And the more approaches you do, the less a rejection fazes you. For some time now, I've been able to get t… | /r/seduction | 03/10/12 01:22 AM |
| 1 | The other night, I was rejected...I felt horrible, like I wanted to cry. What is the BEST piece of advice you've ever heard that you think of whenever you're rejected?Wrong on point #2. A girl is not a bitch because she doesn't want to date/fuck you. Aren't there girls you aren't interested in? Does that make you some awful person? No. | /r/seduction | 03/10/12 01:20 AM |
| 1 | [FR] Indecent activity outside a bar, k-close/#-close, and putting Mystery Method into practiceYeah I'm gonna focus really hard on this. It's very tough for me, but it's worth the effort. And it's a lot less work than exercising and what-not. :) | /r/seduction | 02/10/12 05:55 PM |
| 1 | [FR] Indecent activity outside a bar, k-close/#-close, and putting Mystery Method into practiceIt's just a small, incidental touch as you talk. Helps break the touch barrier and begin building a physical connection. You start doing this almost immediately when talking to the girl. Also, if she's shrinking from your touch (never happened to me doing this yet), you know to move on. Women do it to guys they're interested in ALL the time. Probably unconsciously in most cases. | /r/seduction | 02/10/12 01:10 PM |
| 3 | Why are women so negative about the "picking up women" school of thought?Yeah, lack of any courage to talk to girls made my life a LOT shittier than it is today, just on its own. That seemingly simple ability to go up to any girl and start a conversation...it's like walking on the moon or something compared to how I was. I'm sure a lot of guys are the same. | /r/seduction | 02/10/12 07:26 AM |
| 1 | Bad night... I need to vent.Happens a lot, it seems. | /r/seduction | 02/10/12 07:12 AM |
| 2 | [FR] Indecent activity outside a bar, k-close/#-close, and putting Mystery Method into practiceSetting up day 2's is shit for me, so I seldom even bother with numbers. Unless I f-close the girl the first night, I seldom see them again. However, if I do f-close, I can reasonably often set up a day 2 with them. I usually just ask them if they want to hang out on X day, and they say yes. Some girls I f-close won't even do a day 2 though, which is weird. That's one part of the game I need to work on. My friend whom I go out with a lot also has a similar experience with numbers, and in The Gam… | /r/seduction | 02/10/12 07:12 AM |
| 2 | [FR] Indecent activity outside a bar, k-close/#-close, and putting Mystery Method into practiceWish I could remember more, that would make it a more useful field report. It really wasn't anything too special though, I know that much. I asked her some questions about herself, probably joked around with her a bit, etc. A lot of it was the touching and speed of speech, I think. Plus I work out a lot these days, and that really helps. I might have mentioned this pretty well-known (nationally) jazz club I had gone to that week...something of a DHV and also an interesting experience to relate. … | /r/seduction | 02/10/12 07:11 AM |
| 2 | [FR] Indecent activity outside a bar, k-close/#-close, and putting Mystery Method into practiceWell by "get out of here," I was implying that we go to my house. I later said that explicitly...I wasn't just trying to get her to go to another bar. She said she wanted me to "take her out on a date" instead. I suppose I'll do something along those lines. Adding another FWB would be bomb. Thanks man! | /r/seduction | 02/10/12 05:14 AM |
| 1 | Bad night... I need to vent.Go to a different sub shop, buddy. :) Why did you bother arguing with him? I wouldn't have responded at all. His defensiveness is sad though, in my book. Wtf does he care? | /r/seduction | 02/10/12 03:58 AM |
| 2 | Adult Sedditors, can we establish some guidelines about what is and isn't shitting where you eat?Co-worker: no way, very bad idea Gym: Never done it, would rather not get a reputation as a creep at a place I'm locked into for a year. :) If it's a bar, at least I can leave and never return. Class: Why would anyone take such a class except to meet girls? ;) Extenuating circumstances: The girl is extremely hot and all over me. Hasn't happened yet. But I think my rules would go out the window at that point, to be honest. | /r/seduction | 02/10/12 03:55 AM |
| 1 | So as a gay man, I'm terrified of making a move for fear that i'm going to offend someone.If a gay guy hits on me (and it's happened any number of times), it doesn't bother me unless he's got his hand on my ass or something. It's somewhat flattering, if anything. And I'm straight as an arrow, but nonetheless. | /r/seduction | 28/09/12 10:02 PM |
| 1 | FR: Airport, Hot Girl, We "break" into place, Weed, Rats, Fun!, Sex.Sounds fun as hell dude. Hotel was cheap, like 90 bucks a night right downtown, for 2 people. Food was reasonable, especially doner. Hard liquor drinks were very costly though. Tanqueray tonic, like 10 bucks. Beer was reasonable though and basically nowhere had a cover. | /r/seduction | 28/09/12 01:28 AM |
| 1 | opening is easy as shit, but what's the next step?I've never tried that. I hear it works well though. But I usually just keep it simple and just ask a few questions or whatever. | /r/seduction | 27/09/12 01:21 PM |
| 1 | FR: Airport, Hot Girl, We "break" into place, Weed, Rats, Fun!, Sex."usually logistics of them leaving within the hour got in the way" See that's what stops me, that and needing a break from sarging at bars/clubs all weekend. I've been to Munich (this spring)...it was fairly cheap but not super cheap. Still cheaper than visiting NYC even, and I'm an American. But maybe Berlin should be next. I hear Vienna is very cool, good nightlife, and pretty cheap (despite reputation) also. Friend of mine was there in 2010. | /r/seduction | 27/09/12 01:21 PM |
| 3 | FR: Airport, Hot Girl, We "break" into place, Weed, Rats, Fun!, Sex.Damn, very nice buddy. With all the time I spend in airports, this should've happened to me at least 5 times if I had any balls. :) Provider = fucking in an abandoned building like hobos...I got a lol out of that. No offense, but it's just a funny thought. Well done! Try to see her again, I say. P.S. Should've tried to fuck the runaway girls too. | /r/seduction | 27/09/12 05:05 AM |
| 1 | So, I'm looking for my first own Appartement.Couldnt agree more man | /r/seduction | 27/09/12 03:59 AM |
| 1 | So, I'm looking for my first own Appartement.Live. Near. The. Bars. I don't care if the place is 1/2 the size or whatever. You need to be near the places you're going. I live 2 blocks from a massive number of bars/clubs, and I wouldn't have it any other way, although rent would be cheaper essentially anywhere else in town. If I move to any other town, my absolute #1 priority, by far, will be living near a huge nightlife area. If you want one night stands, it's almost a must I think. Convincing a girl to walk 2 blocks is easy, especially wh… | /r/seduction | 27/09/12 03:57 AM |
| 3 | opening is easy as shit, but what's the next step?Ask her shit, let her talk your ear off. Chime in now and then with something so you seem alive. :) That's basically my approach. I've fallen back on interview questions manys the time and still gotten laid. I don't think it's as awful as people say, although it's not ideal. And a little of that later in the convo may be good, I think. Before she fucks you, she'd probably like to know a little bit about you other than your BS stories. ;) Observational shit is always good. That ring or tattoo or … | /r/seduction | 27/09/12 03:53 AM |
| 1 | opening is easy as shit, but what's the next step?Yeah a friend of mine uses that a lot and, though he's good, he doesn't seem to get much of a response with that particular question. Generally, there's no special reason people are out. | /r/seduction | 27/09/12 03:51 AM |
| 0 | Is understanding the race / culture of a women worth it? Or a waste of time?If you're at a restaurant, wouldn't they be taking your money? | /r/seduction | 27/09/12 03:47 AM |
| 1 | Is understanding the race / culture of a women worth it? Or a waste of time?There's not much difference, I think. I'm a white American guy, for reference. I was wondering about this when trying to game an African girl last year, but I just did what I do with anyone else and it worked fine. We're FWB's of 10 months now, and the one different thing is Africans tend to be fucking late to everything. Cultural thing, time is just not viewed as very concrete. I had to sit her down and very clearly explain that when I said meet up with me at 7, and she said okay, I expected he… | /r/seduction | 27/09/12 03:44 AM |
| 1 | Opinion openers in EuropeWas it a little awkward instantly inviting the girl somewhere else, especially if she had friends of hers with her? I've never tried that. | /r/seduction | 27/09/12 01:30 AM |
| 1 | 12 Products That Make Me Feel AttractiveFair enough. When I first started going out, I tended to wear jeans/nice button-up/sport coat/dressier shoes. I think I stood out too much, but who knows. Now I'm hardly unkempt, just more casual...nice t shirt, jeans, clean sneakers. I certainly wouldn't go out smelly or in dirty clothes or anything, I don't think that's a good idea (although it wouldn't necessarily stop you either). It might be worth experimenting again to see what works better. | /r/seduction | 26/09/12 03:34 PM |
| 2 | Opinion openers in EuropeHow is that showing interest right away? It's just starting a conversation. I've used that sort of thing literally thousands of times, it's fine. People start conversations with each other all the time. You can't be super timid if you want to have any success. If there's one thing to take away from Seddit, that would be it. | /r/seduction | 26/09/12 02:29 PM |
| 1 | Opinion openers in EuropeWell introducing yourself isn't high risk. Neither is asking where someone's from, or commenting on earrings, or whatever. | /r/seduction | 26/09/12 01:36 PM |
| 1 | Opinion openers in EuropeI sarged in Munich about 5-6 times this spring...people were way friendlier than America and quite open to talking to strangers. This goes for daytime and nighttime, hot girls, old men, little kids, everyone. I wouldn't worry about it. I don't do opinion openers, I basically just introduced myself to girls (night game) or asked where they were from or whatever, but they were all very nice. Seemed a little less DTF than American girls, but probably higher quality, in both looks and personality. | /r/seduction | 26/09/12 06:59 AM |
| 2 | In a relationship-- how to keep the Seddit vibe? I'm feeling like I'm becoming a little beta bitch.Why are you worried about her cheating? if she wants to, she will. If she doesn't, she won't. You can't really stop her anyway. You'll very likely find out in the end, but you can't necessarily prevent it. That being said, she probably has no interest in cheating. Most people don't cheat, most of the time. And you can't watch her all the time. And (hopefully) you have better shit to do anyway. So why not just forget about it? It's pretty much out of your hands anyway. I honestly don't tend towar… | /r/seduction | 26/09/12 06:55 AM |
| 1 | How do you deal with girls who are flirts?Test it, see if she'll go with my escalation, drop her rapidly if not. Actually trying to make out with the girl and escalate further and further clearly and rapidly separates the flirts from the actually DTF girls. | /r/seduction | 26/09/12 06:13 AM |
| 2 | Vice.com a day in the life of a PUA. Article is brutalThe guy in the audio clip wasn't bad. His enthusiasm is infectious...I almost wanted to go out on a date with him come the end of the tape, and I'm a straight dude! :) The chick, Bertie, has no idea if the "weird" dudes were actually doing pick-up or not. They could've been anyone at that club. And her talk about awkward observational stuff ("you're wearing a lot of rings")...I've said shit like that before too. But then I ask her about each one, or at least a few of them. Often there's an inter… | /r/seduction | 26/09/12 06:09 AM |
| 1 | Do you guys worry about rotating outfits in front of prospective girlsMakes no difference. | /r/seduction | 26/09/12 05:57 AM |
| 1 | Need help motivating my brother.I wonder, though, how he'll face his responsibilities when no one is making him do so. If you can just laze around on someone else's dime, a lot of people will do that. But if they get hungry enough, they'll probably do something for themselves. If not, eh, he's an adult...it's his problem. I thought it was mostly kids from rich families who had this problem, but you never know I guess. It's especially odious of kids to be parasites when their parents lack financial means in the first place. It'… | /r/seduction | 26/09/12 05:57 AM |
| 1 | Do you think it's a bad idea to tell a girl from the start that you want to be friends and you're not trying to bang them?I've heard similar things, but the results seem to be pretty similar to going out alone or with male friends for me. In fact, I think I get my best results going out alone. Makes it where you have nothing else to do besides talk to girls. On the other hand, a wingwoman isn't going to hurt you either. And if, like me, you typically don't go sarging with girls, it can make going out more fun cuz it's different. | /r/seduction | 26/09/12 05:54 AM |
| 2 | Do you think it's a bad idea to tell a girl from the start that you want to be friends and you're not trying to bang them?I made a female friend recently for the 1st time in quite a while...I didn't say anything like that, but I frequently mentioned other girls and went out to the bars with her and hit on other girls. She got the message very quickly and was telling someone "we're bros" (me and her) and what-not. Mentioning other girls is almost like saying straight-out that you just want to be friends with her. So...I don't know if you need to say it explicitly. You definitely do not need female friends to do pick… | /r/seduction | 26/09/12 03:20 AM |
| 1 | engaging in hobbies/fun activities will NOT help you get girlsHow have you not met girls in yoga? I hear those classes are like 100% chicks. I've thought of taking them for that very reason, to supplement my bar/club game. Plus I hear it's great for you. | /r/seduction | 26/09/12 03:18 AM |
| 3 | Need help motivating my brother.I think people like this need to be made to face reality. Parents should kick him out, and if he starves he starves. He's 22. That means they've taken care of him for 4 years more than he is entitled to. I never got a dime after 17 (and we were poor before that, so I never got much) and I did fine, probably far better for it. As long as someone else is paying the bills, some people will never take any responsibility for themselves. I've known a ton of kids like this. It will be very hard for the… | /r/seduction | 26/09/12 03:15 AM |
| -1 | 12 Products That Make Me Feel AttractiveIf this stuff makes one feel attractive, that's cool. But we shouldn't confuse that with "these products get you laid." None of that shit will, I'd almost guarantee you. And a lot of it is fucking expensive. I wear sneakers out whenever I go out, perfectly good results. 1/2 the time I don't shave. Certainly don't use cologne. I think being too done-up works against you, unless you're at a very snazzy event of some kind. But in a bar full of college kids, say, it's not necessary and not even desi… | /r/seduction | 26/09/12 03:09 AM |
| 1 | Holy shit! - Girls I meet online are sending me naked pics [NSFW Pictures]Yeah I don't really want to take surreptitious pictures of the girls I bring home, and I haven't had one send me a pic yet, but if I ever get one maybe I'll post it. :) In any case, the idea of (presumably) straight guys chastising other straight guys for posting pictures of hot naked amateur girls...umm, what? | /r/seduction | 25/09/12 06:22 AM |
| 3 | Holy shit! - Girls I meet online are sending me naked pics [NSFW Pictures]I also tire of "field reports" that are like "Hey, a girl looked at me, thanks Seddit!" This is useless to anyone, but especially anyone at the intermediate/advanced level. Let's see some field reports about actually getting some ass, or at least something semi-significant and instructive. I seldom even write an FR unless I actually fucked the girl...I don't know how much people are gonna learn from my failures. And if they include naked pictures of fine girls, hey, who am I to say no? :) | /r/seduction | 25/09/12 06:10 AM |
| 0 | Holy shit! - Girls I meet online are sending me naked pics [NSFW Pictures]Must've been fun fucking girl 3, nice ass looks like. You, sir, get mad upvotes for actually posting the pics. ;) | /r/seduction | 25/09/12 05:58 AM |
| 9 | Anyone have any "Guaranteed Laugh" phrases?Not bad. I often ask about a girl's earrings or purse, say "I have the same one in [some other color], but we can't show up wearing the same thing. One of us would have to change, after all." Can be used on almost any girl, virtually always gets a laugh. I've recycled this on so many girls, I've lost count. | /r/seduction | 25/09/12 05:55 AM |
| 1 | [FR] F-close last night with a girl met at closing time in a clubSounds very challenging. Not something I'm really used to doing. I can get to a makeout in just a couple of minutes in some cases, but it always begins with talking. | /r/seduction | 18/09/12 03:35 PM |
| 1 | [FR] F-close last night with a girl met at closing time in a clubThis club, like everywhere I go, has a bar area that is reasonably quiet. It's loud and all, but you can definitely carry a conversation. That's the only way I know how to game, starting a conversation. Just going up and dancing on a girl...maybe it works for some guys, and if so I'd love to know how to do it, but I don't think it would work for me at this point. Plus I have so much experience with more-or-less indirect game that I may as well play to my strengths. But yeah, in a situation where… | /r/seduction | 18/09/12 06:32 AM |
| 5 | [FR] F-close last night with a girl met at closing time in a clubYou can just continue the conversation like normal. I don't want to seem all excited that she's straight, but I do want to find out. | /r/seduction | 18/09/12 03:09 AM |
| 1 | [FR] F-close last night with a girl met at closing time in a clubSometimes gay male wings, sometimes straight ones, a straight girl now and then, sometimes solo. My (straight) male friend and I had split up by this point on the night I described above. Seems to make little difference any of those ways. | /r/seduction | 17/09/12 09:02 PM |
| 1 | [FR] F-close last night with a girl met at closing time in a club26 | /r/seduction | 17/09/12 09:01 PM |
| 3 | [FR] F-close last night with a girl met at closing time in a clubYep. Exactly that. | /r/seduction | 17/09/12 03:58 PM |
| 2 | [FR] F-close last night with a girl met at closing time in a clubThat would work fine. I haven't tried it, but I can totally see it working. After all, I can get girls that don't smoke to come outside with me while I do, so why wouldn't that work? You could also say it's loud and you want to take a break from it outside for a minute. | /r/seduction | 17/09/12 02:54 PM |
| 2 | [FR] F-close last night with a girl met at closing time in a clubIt's amazing anyone dying to meet a straight guy would go to a gay club, lol. | /r/seduction | 17/09/12 01:10 PM |
| 6 | [FR] F-close last night with a girl met at closing time in a clubShe reciprocated by asking if I was gay, an equally legit question given where we were. I said no, and we just continued with our prior conversation. | /r/seduction | 17/09/12 01:09 PM |
| 1 | [FR] F-close last night with a girl met at closing time in a clubYeah at first it was physical, but after talking to her for a while, I realized she's actually a pretty cool person. Nice when that happens. | /r/seduction | 17/09/12 01:09 PM |
| 2 | [FR] F-close last night with a girl met at closing time in a clubNice. Yeah their tendency to never cockblock, and often to help with no expectation of anything in return, is just wonderful. Well, they know all about getting laid, that's for sure. I've been cockblocked hardcore by straight girls, the rare lesbian, and straight men (straight women are the worst of the bunch, the girl's friends), but basically never a gay guy. God bless 'em. | /r/seduction | 17/09/12 06:22 AM |
| 3 | [FR] F-close last night with a girl met at closing time in a clubYeah it's nice. Sometimes they get a tad aggressive...one night at that club, I had some gay dude rubbing my bicep and stuff. But they ultimately back down if you make it clear you're not gay. They don't want to waste their time anyway, not when a million other dudes are gay and will fuck them. They're not surprised to see straight dudes in their clubs/bars. And I wound up bringing home a girl that night anyway, so it all worked out great. "First the gays, then the girls," as they say. ;) I have… | /r/seduction | 17/09/12 06:15 AM |
| 6 | [FR] F-close last night with a girl met at closing time in a clubThanks! Yeah and guys may hit on you, but they always back off if you just tell them you're straight. No one's gonna get raped or anything, lol. And it's kinda flattering. Definitely boosts your confidence for talking to girls. Gay guys are attracted to the same things as women, I imagine. I've had some of my best luck in gay places. Plus they're often just very fun places. Girls love to come there cuz many are dance-focused, as was this place. I can't dance for shit, just hung by the bar. Plus,… | /r/seduction | 17/09/12 05:50 AM |
| 2 | Step by Step ApproachDrop "by the way." Just say your name. You don't need to make it seem insignificant. Who you are is significant. You're the man! ;) | /r/seduction | 17/09/12 05:48 AM |
| 1 | How do you overcome feeling weird?Just realize no one's looking at you or thinking about you. No one cares about you. They're too wrapped up in themselves. So, they're not thinking "ugh, look at that weirdo" or anything. And if they are, who cares? | /r/seduction | 17/09/12 04:34 AM |
| 1 | [FR] dress well, holy mother of god dress well.Dude, eye contact from strangers is meaningless. If you want to illustrate your point, you gotta come up with something better than that. In bars/clubs countless times, I've had girls eye me, I go up to them, and nothing happens. Then I go up to some girl who evidently never noticed me, and wind up taking her home. So don't consider it much of a barometer. I used to, but I do no longer. | /r/seduction | 13/09/12 04:51 AM |
| 2 | "You're doing that PUA routines, aren't you?" - What do when called out?"Sure, is it working?" or "Pick-up? I'm not that easy." Never happened to me though. You must be sarging on Sunset or something, where Mystery, et al. presumably poisoned the pool until around 2035. ;) | /r/seduction | 12/09/12 04:45 AM |
| 2 | Ever had "social proof" work against you?So you'd just say to any prospective girl that the FWB is just a friend. Well, that may not have been a bad idea, in retrospect. I thought that girls liked guys who had lots of girls around them who want them. But eh, I dunno. | /r/seduction | 12/09/12 04:43 AM |
| 1 | Ever had "social proof" work against you?I don't suppose you have any links to that, do you? | /r/seduction | 11/09/12 08:41 PM |
| 1 | Ever had "social proof" work against you?What do you recommend to build that comfort? I feel like that's a weak part of my game. | /r/seduction | 11/09/12 03:42 PM |
| 1 | Asking a Co-Worker out?And if there were few or no other sources of women, fine. But there are always tons of other sources. What's more, I cannot possibly imagine acting at work anything like the way I act in a bar or club, even though it's effective in those contexts. I'd get fired in 2 seconds. | /r/seduction | 11/09/12 07:05 AM |
| 1 | Ever had "social proof" work against you?In retrospect, that probably would've been a good idea. But I figured seeing me with another girl and knowing that girl is into me, instead of just a buddy, would work in my favor. Social proof and all. | /r/seduction | 11/09/12 05:37 AM |
| 1 | Is fucking a lot of new girls a phase or a person's nature?I have a hard time finding anyone I really like, so random sex is good in the mean time. And oddly, when I actually like a girl (super rare), it doesn't seem to work out. When I don't give a shit, it works great a lot of the time. Maybe I'm accidentally acting beta somehow with the extremely few I actually want for more than sex, I don't know. | /r/seduction | 11/09/12 03:57 AM |
| 2 | Asking a Co-Worker out?And even if the relationship just goes badly (you argue, you cheat on her, whatever) she could claim you sexually harrassed her, and they'll believe her. most people aren't so vindictive, but some are. | /r/seduction | 11/09/12 03:53 AM |
| 2 | Asking a Co-Worker out?There are so many girls you can bang. Why try to get one (for a relationship, or a random lay, or anything) that can get you fired for "sexual harrassment"? I think of myself as a budding PUA but you'd never know it at work. I am all business and never even get close to flirting with any girl, no matter how hot. It's just a bad idea. | /r/seduction | 11/09/12 03:52 AM |
| 2 | I've never been a physical person, and kino is something I'm having trouble wrapping my head around. Can I get some advice from some experts?One thing I test-drove for the first time last Saturday night (last time I went out) at a bar is something I read recently in Mystery Method. When you're talking, incidentally touch her repeatedly with the back of your hand. It helps begin to build a physical connection. Keep in mind, this is a 1st step, not a final one. Did this with an HB8-9, good response, touched in a more personal way (she shows her belly so I touch it), we're making out within 15 minutes. And back to my place within 30, an… | /r/seduction | 07/09/12 04:08 AM |
| 1 | How much do I have to change myself for "the game"?It's about being a more confident and sociable version of yourself. You'll like the changes, even aside from the getting laid part. And you're still you, just a better version of you. "Being yourself" doesn't mean never ever changing or improving. What kind of life would that be, total stasis? | /r/seduction | 07/09/12 04:04 AM |
| 1 | What I think everybody should realise.Inner game is great, but practical techniques to use in the real world and advice about real-life situations is very valuable too. Especially if you're at the intermediate/advanced level. By that point, your inner game and self-confidence are presumably already pretty good, and a bunch of repetitive posts saying "you da the man! yay inner game!" are useless. I tend to dislike inner game posts honestly...it's always the same shit. "Ra ra, you're awesome!" | /r/seduction | 07/09/12 04:03 AM |
| 1 | Moved back in with my parents. Is this as big of an obstacle as I think it is?Can you bring girls to a friend's place, a wingman you went out with? And do you think your parents would mind if you brought someone over? | /r/seduction | 07/09/12 03:58 AM |
| 3 | 4 Things to Have in Your Apartment Before She Comes OverThis guy knows his shit. My tempurpedic has contributed to me getting laid countless times. I give girls the grand tour of the place, ending in the bedroom of course, and tell them to try out the bed. I'll sometimes even sit in the chair at first so I'm not jumping on them right away. But invariably, we wind up in the bed together, usually humping. Most girls want to try a tempurpedic, plus it's just nice for me! :) I only have gin/tonic, but I keep my fridge supplied at absolutely all times. Ot… | /r/seduction | 07/09/12 03:55 AM |
| 1 | Is part of the reason I am an AFC because I was raised by a bunch of women?I was raised by my mom and grandma and literally was never around any adult men, ever, really. It probably made it a little harder to figure out how to act manly around women, but watching friends who were naturals and reading and applying PUA stuff made a world of difference. I'm probably better than 99% of guys who had the normal, 2 parent household by now. So it's no barrier. | /r/seduction | 07/09/12 03:45 AM |
| 2 | Why do girls not initiate back with me?My FWB of 9 months, to this day, very seldom texts me first. And earlier on, she literally never did, even though we had already slept together many times. Many/most girls just expect the man to take the lead, and if he's not contacting her, she assumes he doesn't want to talk to her. | /r/seduction | 07/09/12 03:42 AM |
| 2 | Difference in methods around the worldHow much have you tried in the actual field, rather than just reading and thinking? And what isn't working? I sarged in Munich this spring and girls seemed fairly similar to American girls. And I don't even speak a word of German. | /r/seduction | 07/09/12 03:40 AM |
| 1 | Am I wasting my time with her, or should I keep going?Hmm, so erotic or something? | /r/seduction | 07/09/12 12:40 AM |
| 2 | A lesser tapped market.The 2 I've had were very good (2nd took some training since she was almost a virgin when I met her, but learned fast). But, so were many white girls. I don't notice much of a difference. I thought I would, but honestly to me it's like sleeping with any other girl, just that this one has darker skin. But the main reason I tend to approach them harder than others is, time and time again, they're nicer and friendlier. Not necessarily any more DTF, but just more polite and friendly. And that's very … | /r/seduction | 06/09/12 04:28 AM |
| 1 | HOW TO ATTRACT WOMEN: How to disarm a woman's bitch shieldI always just laugh it off with a grin, and the shield goes down. I guess they want to see if you react angrily or slink away, or if you can take a chick challenging you a little. I get the feeling they're 1/2 joking most of the time anyway. | /r/seduction | 06/09/12 04:22 AM |
| 3 | "Do you miss me?" "Are you thinking about me?"I usually say something like "it'll be good to see you." Positive, but noncommittal. Ambiguous. | /r/seduction | 06/09/12 04:20 AM |
| 1 | A lesser tapped market."would just assume that she wouldn't want a white guy" Yep I used to think that too. Maybe that's the case with some, but with a very large number of them, it doesn't seem true at all. | /r/seduction | 06/09/12 04:18 AM |
| 3 | A lesser tapped market.I get friendlier responses from black women than any other race, a lot of the time. Not sure why. Don't care, really. Works for me! :) I have heard that there's a significant gender imbalance in the black community given high incarceration rates and death-by-homicide rates of black males...that may have something to do with it. Also, black women massively outnumber black men in college, so if you're meeting college-educated girls, there just are nowhere near enough black men in their social grou… | /r/seduction | 06/09/12 04:13 AM |
| 1 | Am I wasting my time with her, or should I keep going?Yeah for an hour or more in just my bed, and we also went up to her apartment and laid in hers for a while (her invitation). We weren't cuddling or anything, just laying near each other and talking. It was weird, I had known her for a week at that point, but I felt like I had known her for years. Good conversationalist who really puts you at ease. I hope I didn't go overboard this past weekend with the saying I sorta missed her stuff, but I had an urge to be straight-up with her. | /r/seduction | 06/09/12 04:01 AM |
| 1 | Am I wasting my time with her, or should I keep going?Yeah I guess the other girl thing may be kind of confusing for her. She beat around the bush asking about her at first, and even assumed the girl lived with me, but then she just came out and asked the night she was in my bed. So I explained I had been seeing the other girl for like 9 months but it wasn't exclusive. I maybe should've paid a little more attention to her at that bar, I only spoke to her pretty briefly and met a few of her friends, but I didn't want to seem like I was following her… | /r/seduction | 06/09/12 04:00 AM |
| 1 | Am I wasting my time with her, or should I keep going?I'm not bad at hooking up with girls, been in pick-up for a little over 2 yrs, but girls i actually like is kind of new territory. Very uncommon for me. Prazerous, never heard that word and can't find it on Google, haha. | /r/seduction | 06/09/12 03:57 AM |
| 1 | Am I wasting my time with her, or should I keep going?I just always feel like I need to move fast to both not waste time, and to make sure no one else gets her before I do. She's pretty hot, so that's a risk. ;) But yeah we both have leases until august 2013 and she lives right above me, so she'll be around. Saturday night this weekend I brought a girl home and f-closed after knowing her for about 30-45 minutes, so I guess my patience isn't that good either, haha. I was indeed glad the neighbor didn't come over that night. I just don't want things … | /r/seduction | 05/09/12 10:38 PM |
| 1 | [FR] F-close, plus grabbed a girl for my buddy! :)Haha no. I think maybe because it seems more incidental. I want to learn some of that palm reading shit though, what a great routine. I bet it works well, silly as it sounds. I'm sure you could use the palm of your hand too, it probably makes little difference. I like how these incidental, seemingly accidental touches start a physical connection though. The distance between that and making out/feeling her ass was a very small one, believe it or not. You'll notice girls do it too, with guys they'… | /r/seduction | 04/09/12 06:31 AM |
| 1 | [FR] F-close, plus grabbed a girl for my buddy! :)It's not too bad. Took me a while to become confident enough to do that regularly, but what I'm actually doing is very simple. Talking, letting her talk mostly, asking her follow-up questions about herself. Isolating her usually, then touching a little more and a little more. And then just going for it. You get rejected for the kiss sometimes doing that, but not too much. | /r/seduction | 03/09/12 07:13 PM |
| 1 | [FR] F-close, plus grabbed a girl for my buddy! :)Thanks dude! Yeah logistics are so important. When I asked her over, she asked how far I lived. Most girls do. Had the answer been "20 min away" or whatever, good luck. I live 2 blocks away, so that made it great. And I had booze, so I could invite them over to have a drink, not just hang out (I keep booze and mixer in my house at literally all times). Plus my bedroom is in the back of the apartment, leaving plenty of room for my friend and his girl, and my bedroom has a dead bolt. So you've got… | /r/seduction | 03/09/12 07:00 AM |
| 1 | Ageing, thoughts?I'm 26 and sleep with more 20-22 yr old girls than I ever did. Not teenagers, cuz I meet girls at the bars, and they're not there (USA, drinking age is 21 and ID enforcement is pretty strict). Younger girls absolutely want older guys, if you have some game. And I'm very attracted to women well into their 30's and beyond. Even early 50's in some cases, if they're in shape. A nice body is a nice body, whatever the age. | /r/seduction | 03/09/12 05:17 AM |
| 1 | [FR] F-close, plus grabbed a girl for my buddy! :)Well what I described above was very easy. You can probably see that from reading it. All I did was go up to her, say hello (I think I asked her about her glasses or something, some BS), chat a bit, start making out. Ask her home, she comes, we fuck. Super simple. Anyone can do it. I didn't even talk to her much, and I said nothing special. I'm working on another girl whom I actually rather like, and it's not so easy. But ones like the one last night, you mostly just have to show up, start talki… | /r/seduction | 03/09/12 01:27 AM |
| 1 | [FR] F-close, plus grabbed a girl for my buddy! :)Just tapping her on the arm or whatever as I talked, nothing major. It's just a starting point for kino, helps begin to build a physical connection. | /r/seduction | 03/09/12 01:24 AM |
| 2 | Can't approach.. don't want to feel patheticWell that's my point, that it is by no means all about looks. I've seen plenty of guys I'd call less good looking than I with attractive girls. And sometimes I get them, and often I don't. It depends. Women are a lot less focused on looks than are men. We cannot assume they are just dudes with titties, and think the same as we do. | /r/seduction | 30/08/12 07:51 AM |
| 3 | Question - Should one fill out the income field for online dating sites?The thing is, lying about your height or weight is a lot more difficult. Or your age. When you guys meet in person, the lie will probably be readily apparent. Lying about income is not the same. It's hard to disprove. Presumably that info wouldn't be valued nearly as much, for that reason. | /r/seduction | 30/08/12 06:08 AM |
| 1 | Holy crap, I just had a realization. This information can work (with modification) in all sorts of different other places.Yep this does work. The way I approach negotiations for a new job is that I have something they want, and it's gonna cost them. I'm the prize, so to speak. Very similar to seduction principles. So I very flatly tell them the money I want and don't really compromise. If they can't meet it, no hard feelings, but I just walk away with no counter-offer. Half the time, they'll come back to me and meet my terms. Similar to how I got my current FWB. Asked her home with me, she wouldn't go. So I just wa… | /r/seduction | 30/08/12 05:08 AM |
| 2 | How old are you? (basic question)I'm 26. And yeah I get laid a lot more than I did when I was younger. Lot more. Having your own place, money, and confidence sure does help. Plus experience in picking up girls. I'm also in much better shape now than I was then. Hopefully it'll only get better! I sleep with more 20-22 yr old girls now than I ever did at that age, by a huge margin, which surprises me. You wouldn't necessarily think that college girls would want older guys, but God do they ever. | /r/seduction | 30/08/12 05:04 AM |
| 3 | Question - Should one fill out the income field for online dating sites?You gotta wonder why. It's incredibly easy to lie about and no one can really disprove it. | /r/seduction | 30/08/12 05:02 AM |
| 4 | Can't approach.. don't want to feel patheticDude, i'm a 6'1" white guy with muscles, and I get rejected most of the time too. Being nice looking alone won't make anyone's panties drop instantly most of the time, except maybe overweight girls with few options. If you keep thinking "I'm not worth anything," you'll almost surely be broadcasting that to everyone you meet through your demeanor. Men and women. Bad for job prospects and bad for love life. So work on changing that. And there's no path to getting laid that doesn't involve a lot of… | /r/seduction | 30/08/12 04:59 AM |
| 1 | Explain thisI'm thinking of taking her out on a legit date (something I haven't done in almost a year with anyone) and not really trying anything physical, just 1 time. Whaddya think? And then the next time I'd try to fool around w/ her again. That's actually the exact pattern I followed with my FWB. 1st night, she wouldn't even kiss me, and I laughed it off. Took her out, froze her out physically. 2nd time taking her out, game was on. ;) Mystery Method or whatever would say go back for the kiss a 2nd time.… | /r/seduction | 26/08/12 10:55 AM |
| 1 | What is a really social city?Yeah hasnt happened to me yet and I'm 26 and in pretty good shape. | /r/seduction | 25/08/12 09:03 AM |
| 2 | What is a really social city?Are you talking about at bars, or just anywhere? | /r/seduction | 25/08/12 03:07 AM |
| 1 | What is a really social city?What would I pay for a 900-1000 sq ft one bedroom in a fun neighborhood? And what neighborhoods are fun? I've heard of the Mission, but I know little else. Never actually been to SF. I hear great things, though. | /r/seduction | 25/08/12 03:07 AM |
| 6 | How do you respond to "Are you trying to fuck me?"Another time, I just said "That's cool" and changed the subject after a girl said she wasn't gonna sleep with me that night. That worked too. | /r/seduction | 24/08/12 10:25 PM |
| 18 | How do you respond to "Are you trying to fuck me?"Yeah, evidently it hardly hurt you that much, but still. You're making the decision hers. The frame should always be that it's yours. | /r/seduction | 24/08/12 05:39 PM |
| 103 | How do you respond to "Are you trying to fuck me?"I probably would've said "I'm not that easy!" Girls seem to respond well to that. | /r/seduction | 24/08/12 05:34 PM |
| -1 | Male PUA tips applied by female, 21. 1st Test.I'm surprised the feeling up was such a problem. Usually a girl will say no if she doesn't want to do that, but she doesn't hold trying against you. Unless you're going for it over and over and getting really grabby. Husband! Haha. A new wrinkle for the story. | /r/seduction | 24/08/12 05:30 PM |
| 0 | Male PUA tips applied by female, 21. 1st Test.You never talked to him again just because he kissed you and felt you up? Really? I've had girls say "I'm not gonna have sex with you tonight" and then do it only hours later. It's common, often described in the PUA community. She seems to be saying it mostly to herself, I gather. May as well do some makeup and girly clothes. At least when you go out sarging. :) Shit, I don't usually wear tight t-shirts and I didn't used to work out, but you play the game by the rules that exist and maximize you… | /r/seduction | 24/08/12 06:58 AM |
| 1 | Male PUA tips applied by female, 21. 1st Test.Guys literally never hit on you? With all the girls I chat up, I find it hard to believe there's any girl who doesn't get hit on. ;) And they don't even go for the 1st kiss or anything? I have never, ever had a girl do that (except one wasted chick I turned down once). I didn't know they ever did. | /r/seduction | 23/08/12 06:46 AM |
| 1 | Male PUA tips applied by female, 21. 1st Test.Oh of course. But having to do it 100% of the time is tiring after a while. How about 95%, say? Also makes you kinda question your attractiveness, never getting hit on. But when I was a lot fatter and worse looking, I actually got hit on more, so I keep that in mind. Less intimidating if you don't look as good, less chance of rejection for the chick. | /r/seduction | 22/08/12 05:21 AM |
| 0 | Male PUA tips applied by female, 21. 1st Test.What I'm talking about is the initial approach, first kiss, first text, inviting her home, initiating sex, etc. I don't think push-pull really gets her to do any of that stuff. | /r/seduction | 22/08/12 04:35 AM |
| 4 | Male PUA tips applied by female, 21. 1st Test.Wish some girl would do this to me. Doing all the work 100% of the time is a bit exhausting after a while. Seriously, we dudes do everything. From the initial approach, to the call/text, the whole 9 yards, every time. | /r/seduction | 22/08/12 02:03 AM |
| 3 | How NOT to chat up women (with real example)My God this is sad. He's really supplicating. He's also providing nothing interesting in the conversation and asking her nothing about herself either. Why not ask her what she did on her awesome weekend? But the doormat shit is by far the worst part. Even when I was an AFC, I'm glad I wasn't that type of AFC. More just super awkward and tended not to talk to girls at all. What's amazing is that even if you're 1000 times better than this, you still fail the vast majority of the time. | /r/seduction | 22/08/12 02:00 AM |
| 1 | What are your horror stories? Worst blow ups and goofs?Ha yeah I had never heard that advice before. But I figured it out. ;) I wasn't grinding on her or anything, just said hello. Funny moment though. And makes any possible future rejection seem like nothing, so it helped me ultimately I think (happened a year or so ago). | /r/seduction | 22/08/12 01:08 AM |
| 1 | How can I stop being jealous and get women?Dude I'm 6'1" and pretty good looking and girls almost never talk to me either. I can barely remember the last time it happened, frankly, and I go out all the time. It actually happened more before I lost weight and got in shape...less intimidating if you're pudgy, I guess. ;) You gotta do the work of approaching them, like it or not. This is a fucking iron rule. | /r/seduction | 21/08/12 02:15 AM |
| 4 | What are your horror stories? Worst blow ups and goofs?Lightly elbowed a girl to get her attention (she had her back to me), said hello in some club. She doesn't even turn around, just extends a middle finger. Bizarre. That was my worst ever probably, but even at the time I laughed my ass off. Mistake was approaching from behind I think. Or she was just having a shitty day or whatever. Yours is hilarious. | /r/seduction | 21/08/12 02:13 AM |
| 3 | $1 got me laidDamn, I keep telling my mom to charge more. | /r/seduction | 21/08/12 02:05 AM |
| 3 | Dive bar "fuck night" situationGo somewhere else? Different places can have different vibes. And if anyone acts like an ass to you, just laugh it off like they don't matter. Cuz they don't. I, once in a great while, have a girl say some caustic thing to me. I just laugh at her, cuz I don't fucking care. I have sympathy for ya though...that must be tough. I think as your social skills improve by doing pickup, that kinda shit happens way less. That's been the case for me, at least. I also might suggest working out. Does wonders… | /r/seduction | 21/08/12 02:05 AM |
| 1 | [FR] 2 k-closes and one #-close tonightYeah maybe I'm not building enough of that. How do you go about doing better there? Are we talking about discussing each other's lives, what you do, etc? Just the average get-to-know each other talk? | /r/seduction | 20/08/12 02:56 AM |
| 1 | [FR] 2 k-closes and one #-close tonightYeah I dont usually get 2 k-closes in one night, but one is common. Annoying how often they don't lead anywhere. But, I feel like I'm doing my job in escalating so much, and that it's bound to pay off again soon as it has in the past. What do you think? | /r/seduction | 19/08/12 02:24 AM |
| 2 | Long time lurker, first post. Trying the field with a disability.Hells yeah! If a chick asks you why you're wearing them, just be honest. I doubt she'll care. With women, in my experience: if you don't act like it's a big deal, neither will she. They just take their cues from us. Granted, I don't have a disability, but I just think that's how they are. Go out there, sarge hard, and prove me wrong! :) | /r/seduction | 18/08/12 08:27 AM |
| 1 | Long time lurker, first post. Trying the field with a disability.What about sunglasses? Even at night. It's a tad douchey, but douchey guys get laid all the time. Honestly, the more douchey I've acted, the more I've gotten laid much of the time. | /r/seduction | 18/08/12 08:01 AM |
| 1 | [FR] First night out + gorgeous blondeGood job sarging your first few girls, man. I remember about 2 yrs ago when that was me! 1st chick, the black one...instead of saying "Me too blah blah blah" you should've asked her where she's from. Everyone's favorite topic is themselves. She would've been more engaged had you asked her a question about her. Works for me. I'd also suggest going somewhere less loud if you cannot even have a conversation with anyone. Any place that's deafeningly loud, I eject forthwith. If I cannot talk to a gir… | /r/seduction | 18/08/12 07:57 AM |
| 0 | I'm a girl, and I think some of the PUA techniques are bad news. Hear me out.I've done pickup for 2 years and have come to the conclusion that negging is pretty pointless usually. I tend to do better without it. It needs to be in a very obviously joking way if it's used it all. If it's even 1/2 serious, it is not effective. And even in a joking way, it should be used very sparingly. | /r/seduction | 18/08/12 07:35 AM |
| 1 | Can we come up with a checklist of the top 3 things to do in field (intermediate/advanced)?Yeah speaking louder would be a good idea. I tend to speak at a fairly low volume usually. Fine in normal contexts but I may be a little hard to hear in a bar. I'm def gonna keep that in mind whilst sarging this eve. ;) And kino, I need to improve there. I can totally do it, I just have a tendency to wait too long much of the time. Although I often open by touching the girl's hair, and that seems to work well enough. It could help me get blown out with girls that aren't interested, which would a… | /r/seduction | 17/08/12 08:05 PM |
| 1 | Can we come up with a checklist of the top 3 things to do in field (intermediate/advanced)?How early into the convo are you doing kino? I tend to wait a while a lot of the time. Maybe too long. | /r/seduction | 17/08/12 08:15 AM |
| 1 | Can we come up with a checklist of the top 3 things to do in field (intermediate/advanced)?Yep that's what I do. I smoke, as it happens, so that def makes it easier. | /r/seduction | 17/08/12 08:15 AM |
| 1 | Can we come up with a checklist of the top 3 things to do in field (intermediate/advanced)?Numbers are amazingly easy, cannot remember the last time I was turned down, and usually they offer before I ask. K-close pretty often, several times a month going out 8 nights a month. F-closes, maybe every 2 months, sometimes more. flake ratio is outrageously high though, like nearing 100%, which sucks. | /r/seduction | 17/08/12 08:14 AM |
| 1 | Can we come up with a checklist of the top 3 things to do in field (intermediate/advanced)?True true, but maybe there are some general principles that could be useful for those at the intermediate/advanced level that can help one break through to a really high level. I'm fucking glad I haven't suffered from AA in a long time, and feel even more comfortable approaching girls in the last couple of weeks for some reason, but I want to close more of them. | /r/seduction | 14/08/12 08:10 AM |
| 1 | DAE notices that when it rains it pours, and then there are dry spells?Actually not really. Not the latter, certainly. | /r/seduction | 14/08/12 07:56 AM |
| 3 | DAE notices that when it rains it pours, and then there are dry spells?Happens to me too. As another poster said, it's probably just random variance. But damn is it annoying to be in the middle of a drought. 1.5 months here without an f-close, and only a couple of make-out/fool around sessions. I have a regular FWB thank God, but other than that, no new girls. So frustrating. I go out twice a week like clockwork, approach like a fucking machine (probably more than almost anyone in town) every single night and cannot figure out WTF I'm doing wrong. Meanwhile last fa… | /r/seduction | 14/08/12 07:46 AM |
| 1 | DAE notices that when it rains it pours, and then there are dry spells?Very interesting. Got a link to this? I've never heard this before. | /r/seduction | 14/08/12 07:44 AM |
| 14 | Girls talking about other guys in front of youI would ignore it and not worry much about it, or even chime in agreeing. Shows you're not easy to threaten. So long as your target is showing you interest otherwise, who cares? | /r/seduction | 14/08/12 07:36 AM |
| 2 | Does being fit help a lot?It helps some. In the last 1.5 yrs I've went from 207 to 168 (at 6'1") and gained significant muscle. Girls are a lot more friendly on the initial approach. It's quite rare for anyone to reject you right away anymore. But am I getting laid more? Maybe a little, and probably with somewhat hotter girls, but it's not a huge difference. Gave me a lot of confidence though, so I sure do appreciate that. Being able to look around in almost any bar/club and say to myself "I'm the best looking guy here" … | /r/seduction | 14/08/12 07:07 AM |
| 1 | Some thoughts on #close.Yeah I have a far easier time with k-close/f-close than Day 2's, oddly. It's very weird. It would be somewhat insulting, but I'm kinda considering just refusing all numbers from now on. On the other hand, it takes 2 seconds to text some chick, and the potential payoff is substantial. So it's kind of hard to justify not fucking with numbers. Really makes very little sense to me that a chick would offer it up without me even hinting at getting her # or ever seeing her again, and then not want to h… | /r/seduction | 14/08/12 07:04 AM |
| 3 | Some thoughts on #close.Agreed, and this is usually how it works for me too these days. The girls give them to me, I don't ask. And yet, many still don't ultimately want to hang out. They usually respond, but flake out when it comes to making specific plans. Really makes no sense to me. Why ask me to take your number if you don't want to hang out? I've thought of just turning down all numbers and going only for bringing a girl back to my place. My flake rate on numbers is nearly 100%. Never works. Meanwhile once I brin… | /r/seduction | 14/08/12 05:49 AM |
| 1 | Pulling tropical flavors.My FWB of the last 9 months is black (from Africa, recent immigrant). It was slightly harder than average to get her into the sack...I think it took 4 dates, which is about my limit of patience. But other than that, it's exactly the same as being with any other girl. She's the 2nd black one I've been with...also had 2 hispanics, no asians, bunch of whites. She's very passionate in bed, but so are lots of girls. I don't think it's because of her race. The other black girl wasn't especially passio… | /r/seduction | 13/08/12 07:44 AM |
| 1 | Rules for setting expectations?I say try to avoid the conversation entirely. It's very tough to tell a girl "I want to see you and others also" and have her accept that. But if she wants to assume you're only seeing her, tacitly, that's her business. You didn't lie to her, she just assumed the wrong thing. I find a lot of them will just assume that and run with the assumption and sometimes ask no questions at all. I've been seeing a girl for 8-9 months under exactly this arrangement, and sleeping with other girls on the side … | /r/seduction | 10/08/12 03:53 AM |
| -1 | "I want to get with a guy who will buy me a drink"Either laugh and walk away, or ask "what, you can't afford one yourself?" | /r/seduction | 09/08/12 04:15 AM |
| 1 | A little routine I came up with using information I learned about a woman's peripheral visionWhat's weird is, shit like that works. A while back I was doing some routine I read in a book about women's relative finger lengths as opposed to men. 2 minutes later I was making out with her, some random girl I didn't even know 10 minutes prior. This somewhat pseudoscientific stuff grabs women, for some reason. | /r/seduction | 09/08/12 04:14 AM |
| 2 | A Question from a Pessimistic LadyThe real human connection is great, but I find it's so rare that if I want to get laid more than once in a great while, I have to fake that level of connection most of the time. That's the truth. | /r/seduction | 09/08/12 04:07 AM |
| 2 | How do you guys respond to a dodged kiss?Thanks it just occurred to me in the moment, and I liked it. Evidently she did too. Cuz a lot of guys would get mad or just leave. | /r/seduction | 08/08/12 05:51 AM |
| 1 | Text back and forth a bit before asking her out, or go straight for it?I am not asking about anyone specifically. You misunderstood my post. At no point did I ever even mention any specific person. Can you take my post out of the spam filter? I'm familiar with the difference between Seddit and AskSeddit. I'm asking as a general rule. | /r/seduction | 07/08/12 08:27 AM |
| 1 | Why the fuck is it so hard?To a degree, women do seem to absolutely adore rejecting guys. I'm in New York City for work, and taking a walk I hear some girl saying to her chick friend "He wants to go out with me, and I don't want to think of him like that." I'm thinking "I'm a very long way from home, in a far larger city, and it's exactly the same story" lol. | /r/seduction | 07/08/12 06:17 AM |
| 3 | Curious lady here: How often do men use "passive aggressive" pick-up techniques? (ex: brushing up against a woman but not saying anything) Are there a lot of passive aggressive pick up techniques?I never do. I will sometimes sit near a girl I'm interested in, but I will actually talk to her in a minute or two and I won't be randomly touching her. Usually though, I just start talking to them right away. I could see guys doing that though. I wouldn't call it "passive aggressive pickup." I'd call it "copping a feel." | /r/seduction | 07/08/12 06:06 AM |
| 12 | How do you guys respond to a dodged kiss?One time, a girl did that and I said "The way this works is you angle your head up about 30 degrees, and turn toward me." She got a kick out of that. Didn't wind up hooking up with her that night, but wound up FWB's with her for the last 8-9 months. So, I guess it worked. ;) I think if you can laugh something like that off, they respect you more for it. Many guys would get pissed and/or give up. I might have given up too except for the fact that, aside from dodging the kiss, she seemed very inte… | /r/seduction | 07/08/12 05:59 AM |
| 1 | Why the fuck is it so hard?Yeah I should buy one of those. I don't think breath is a problem, because one time when it was a friend told me right away. I was very grateful and told him right away to always let me know if that happens again. But one of those would be a good thing to have...probably just feels nice, anyway. | /r/seduction | 07/08/12 05:57 AM |
| 1 | Why the fuck is it so hard?Thanks, very nice of you to say, and you have a point. | /r/seduction | 07/08/12 05:54 AM |
| 2 | Why the fuck is it so hard?Yeah I do twice a week. For over a year, I did 3. I started to get "approach apathy" where you're not afraid of talking to a girl, you just don't feel like it cuz you've been doing it too much. But I've had a break and I might go out a bit more if I have time. I work a lot though. | /r/seduction | 04/08/12 09:14 PM |
| 2 | Why the fuck is it so hard?Good one. Didn't even occur to me, haha. | /r/seduction | 04/08/12 08:32 AM |
| 2 | Why the fuck is it so hard?My apologies for whining so much in the original post. I shouldn't complain. Just was feeling a little pissed off (and drunk) and the time. ;) Thanks for the moral support, gents. I'm sure we all feel like this sometimes, no matter how good we are. | /r/seduction | 04/08/12 08:23 AM |
| 2 | Why the fuck is it so hard?Oh it's fucking hard. Losing 40+ lbs and gaining muscle, working out 6 times a week, it's incredibly easy compared to changing your social skills. That is so fucking hard. And I thank God that almost any girl I see, I can go start a conversation with her. It's a power I never thought I'd have in my life. And trust me, once you can do that, you feel very very powerful. But then you finally get where you never thought you'd be, and you realize it ain't a panacea. You can start a conversation, but … | /r/seduction | 04/08/12 08:21 AM |
| 2 | Why the fuck is it so hard?Yeah I often wish I were gay...several of my friends are, and it's incredibly easy for them. I've tried, mentally, to get in that...I just cannot. Talking to chicks was almost impossible for me 2 yrs ago. I was probably close to where you are now. But now I do it very easily, but it's usually fruitless. I feel like that's probably how it usually is, even for guys like Mystery and great PUA's like that. But it's annoying for it to be fruitless so often. You work like hell, but mostly it's useless… | /r/seduction | 04/08/12 08:11 AM |
| 5 | Why the fuck is it so hard?Maybe so. I get frustrated that girls never do any work, usually. I talk to girls at a probably 50:1 or 100:1 ratio that they start talking to me. I kid you not. It's irritating that they just do nothing and I have to always do all the work. But, hey, what can you do? I don't think guys like Mystery got laid left and right because girls were talking to them. They did the work, and I guess that's what we all need to do. Almost every chick I spoke to tonight, I felt like she was acting like she wa… | /r/seduction | 04/08/12 08:07 AM |
| 6 | Why the fuck is it so hard?You have a point. I got diagnosed with panic attack disorder a couple of years ago. Not really triggered by girls, but I'm sure they didn't help. :) I guess there's always further to go. Before I got into pick-up, I considered even making out with a girl almost impossible. Now, it happens maybe 1/3 to 1/2 of the time I go out, but it's usually a cocktease and no lay is involved. Well, if we got laid once a week we'd wanna get laid 3 times a week. It never ends. And I just slept with my regular F… | /r/seduction | 04/08/12 08:03 AM |
| 1 | Why the fuck is it so hard?Yeah that's true. Whenever I feel like that, I always feel differently in the morning and am dying to go approaching again. It is annoying to put in so much work for, sometimes, no results. I used to be terrified to talk to any girl, and I also looked horrendous. Both those problems are fixed well, but still 1/2 the time I can't get any. Very irritating. I thought I'd get laid nonstop when I fixed those issues, and that girls would be approaching me. They almost never do. Meh. But hey, that'll m… | /r/seduction | 04/08/12 07:58 AM |
| 2 | Can't get over my raceDon't let it stop you. I remember a few months ago, me and my buddy (both white) were at a bar. We see a super (white) hot girl and talk about who's gonna approach first. We see she's near this small, not very handsome guy, and both say "Well, they're not together." They weren't touching or anything either, or even standing very close. And he was Asian, by the way. Just as I'm getting out of my chair, she kisses the guy on the lips. So you never know. | /r/seduction | 03/08/12 03:57 PM |
| 2 | To all sedditors who have been to Germany or even live thereYeah I found myself being drawn into serious conversations a little more than usual, but the girls were damned interesting. More so than in the US, I'd say. Sometimes I consciously took off my pick-up hat and just enjoyed talking to them, and I was happy with that. Some were plenty flirty though. | /r/seduction | 03/08/12 08:16 AM |
| 2 | To all sedditors who have been to Germany or even live thereIf you're having luck with them, then 1-2 is fine. But if not, I say keep going for as many as you need to. I've sometimes had to chat up 10-15 girls in a night to get laid. Passivity might work in other contexts but not in bar/club game. You have to be aggressive. | /r/seduction | 03/08/12 08:15 AM |
| 6 | To all sedditors who have been to Germany or even live thereI sarged in Munich this spring, about 4-5 nights or so. Didn't get laid, but it was very fun. The girls seemed much the same, except that they seemed to take you talking to them much more seriously than girls in America. I noticed most any girl I talked to would stick around for quite some time, and ones I talked to earlier in the night and left would keep looking at me over and over. In America, you can talk to a girl and then wander off and no one cares or remembers. Also, a very cute and nice… | /r/seduction | 01/08/12 08:51 PM |
| 1 | Night game, what should I expect?You don't really need negs. But push/pull is good. They say that if you make out with/grind on a girl too much in a bar, she's sexually satisfied from just that and doesn't need to come home with you and seal the deal. So, if you're just making out with her a little and whetting her appetite for it, you'll do better. You can probably approach pretty much the same way you do during the day. Dealing with her friends (talking to them, befriending them) will be more important in night game, since th… | /r/seduction | 31/07/12 04:35 AM |
| 2 | What to talk about with girls?I just walk away if the girl cannot carry a conversation, even if she's hot and friendly. I just can't take it, not anymore. Been there, done that. Surely there will be some other girl there who has something to say and also looks decent. I'm just not willing to endure even a 1/2 hour of excruciating conversation in order to get laid. Plus, if we're not connecting conversation-wise, the odds that she'll be interested in sleeping together are lower anyway. | /r/seduction | 30/07/12 08:38 PM |
| 2 | Height in dating. Is height and physical prowess an advantage?In the last 1.5 yrs I've gone from 207 to 167 and gained muscle (I'm 6'1")...it helps, but it's no panacea. I look a million times better, but it hardly means that you get laid all the time. One funny thing is better looks mean that almost no girl rejects you outright in an obvious way. Virtually all are friendly. But in a way, this is bad...you can easily wind up wasting your time with a girl who's friendly but isn't planning on sleeping with you. | /r/seduction | 30/07/12 04:43 AM |
| 1 | Weekend FR's, not a very lucky weekend!Yeah making conversations more sexual would probably be a good idea. I also need to go out earlier...I keep going out with only 3 hours or so until bar time, if that. I need probably 3.5...I keep notice I'm getting really "in state" only in the last hour or so. Plus, so many girls leave long before actual bar time. Any examples on how to make conversations more sexual? I can escalate physically, and you're right AA isn't really an issue for me anymore, but making the conversation sexual is somet… | /r/seduction | 30/07/12 04:03 AM |
| 1 | Getting the kiss?Yeah I just developed it on my own through experience. Tried it on a girl tonight and failed though, but I at least got the #. It's uncommon to fail with that, but it happens. She said "I have morals," I kid you not. I was cool with it though. It's true that I do regret ones I didn't try. I feel like I'm failing too seldom for it to be a truly effective method. It works, but it needs to be tried on way more girls. Field tested with maybe 30-40 girls. | /r/seduction | 28/07/12 08:00 AM |
| 4 | Getting the kiss?I use the same ladder every time and it nearly always works once I get started...I do it only on girls who seem fairly interested and are already getting somewhat physically close, though: 1) Touching her hair, playing with it, commenting on it. 2) Arm around her. Still talking. 3) Getting in closer, still talking. 4) Making out. Easy as pie. She's well aware of what's coming and can stop me at any time, but they seldom do. But at least you're not surprising her and thus freaking her out. She kn… | /r/seduction | 27/07/12 07:39 PM |
| 1 | Talking to other girls in the same club after # closing a girlIf there are more attractive girls there, I usually stay. If it's a small place and everyone saw me make out with a girl, I might leave, but then again I might not. Basically, I'm loathe to leave a place that's full of hot girls. | /r/seduction | 27/07/12 06:49 PM |
| 3 | Men of Reddit, what type of women are you most attracted to?All kinds, but a tad chubby and extremely curvy is the tops. Huge (real) boobs/butt basically without limit, small-ish waist, plenty of meat. ;) I'm white, like white/black/hispanic women, the occasional asian. I like all heights, including taller than me. I'm 6'1"/167, leanly muscular, for reference. | /r/seduction | 26/07/12 06:57 PM |
| 2 | ListenYeah, a few weeks ago I f-closed (same night) a hot girl by doing little more than opening, listening to her, escalating, and bringing her home. I didn't even say much, and I'm pretty sure whatever I said wasn't that great. Similar thing with a k-close/#-close the last time I went out, Saturday. I barely said anything, just listened attentively to her after opening her. My current FWB had an interesting story: her (cute) sister went out with a guy once, came home exasperated that he talked only … | /r/seduction | 26/07/12 06:46 PM |
| 1 | Got stood up for a coffee date, but it looks like she just got the time wrong. What's the best thing to do in this sort of situation?Give her one more shot in a couple of days. If nothing happens, lose her number. | /r/seduction | 26/07/12 07:51 AM |
| 1 | Managing multiple mLTR / FWB - Tips on setting expectations?I just don't say anything, but don't lie either. I'm currently in a semi-relationship with one girl that's gone on for 8 months. Every Friday/Saturday, I go out and hit on other girls (I see her 1-2 times a week, different nights), often fooling around with or having sex with other women. She asks no questions, and I tell her nothing. We've never discussed exclusivity, and I never lie to her. Works for us. And if she's fucking other people too (which I doubt knowing her, but who knows?), I don't… | /r/seduction | 26/07/12 07:22 AM |
| 1 | Getting your "aim" right in solo game.I go solo a lot and often use your same tactic of paying less attention to the hotter girl (I seldom neg, though) in a group and more attention to the less-hot one. Sometimes, the hot one gets jealous and I get her. Sometimes, the hot one tunes out and I wind up with the less-hot one. Sometimes I get neither of them. I'm happy either which way, assuming the less-hot one is decent. And 5 is decent. For the night, be happy with that. If you've got some decent-looking girl eating out of your hand, … | /r/seduction | 25/07/12 07:10 AM |
| 1 | K-close, she asks me to take her number, then doesn't answer. Why?Never thought of it that way and I think I'll try that. With my male mind, that never even occurred to me. I usually never send more than 1 text (unless she responds to that first one, obviously), but I may as well try your approach. Nothing to lose. | /r/seduction | 23/07/12 03:22 PM |
| 1 | K-close, she asks me to take her number, then doesn't answer. Why?Maybe so. She referred to being a little drunk but didn't seem too drunk. I've done a ton of night game so I can tell fairly well usually. But who knows. | /r/seduction | 23/07/12 03:39 AM |
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