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If the girl is fat and smelly, no one will want to date her either? What is your point, unattractive people are unattractive? Fucking hell, what wisdom! The whole idea of improving how well you can mentally stimulate a woman is only a part of attracting her. This is obviously not a magic bullet.
/r/seduction13/05/20 06:19 PM
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Good stuff, just wanted it to be clear for anyone browsing for advice.
/r/seduction09/05/20 07:44 PM
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I thought you said not to play games? If you only approached her friend to get back at the first girl or to make her angry, you're still responding badly to her rejection, in my opinion. If you approached the second girl because you were genuinely interested in her, fine. But it doesn't sound like it, since you had this idea later. Seems a bit counter-productive to me. Redirecting anger is good, but not if you generated that anger for no reason other than spite. Be better than her.
/r/seduction09/05/20 07:41 PM
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Or just seek out the people who aren't in groups? When I lived abroad, there were always solo flyers at my local pub. Talk to them - guys or girls. You know they're there alone, they'll want to chat, and you can start up a group of your own. Even if you just buddy up with one dude, it makes it much easier to approach 2+ sets.
/r/seduction29/03/20 09:38 PM
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You could have approached? You had common ground (both on holiday), you knew she was single, you aren't British (so you had the "hot foreigner" factor), and you were in the same place at the same time...
/r/seduction02/03/20 01:03 AM
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Did you actually try it, though? The problem with confidence and taking action is you actually have to do it. That's why things like the three second rule exist, because our brains are designed to talk us out of risky/fearful/weird situations, and stay in a safe comfort zone. The only way to break out of there is to slowly prod at the boundary of your comfort zone, until you burst out of your bubble. That's why usually people say, "go talk to everybody". You start talking to randos at the grocer…
/r/seduction02/02/20 10:19 PM
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Probably just by owning who you are and being confident in that, but with a magnified version of yourself. ie: you put yourself out there as a super star wars nerd. girls tease you about it but instead of being offended (failing shit test), you own it and play it up. shit test passed, confidence displayed, attraction increased.
/r/seduction18/01/20 01:49 AM
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The point is not to fake not caring, it's to realize that your caring is not deserved or required. Let's say you meet a girl on a night out. You talk to her for maybe 20 minutes and then she throws you a shit test/disqualifier like, you: "oh I like metal music, have you heard of blah blah?" her: "oh eww I never listen to metal, it's so bad and I can't even understand what they're saying" Most guys at this point would feel pretty shit about having their taste in music insulted. They might get def…
/r/seduction18/01/20 01:41 AM
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those things aren't necessarily needy behaviours. texting lots of women you're interested in is a great thing, if they're interested back. you have an abundance of women to socialize with, good social proof if you actually hang out with them, and you could even get these girls to introduce you to their single friends. being available also isn't needy. but you have to look at why you're so available. if it's because you're sitting at home doing nothing, that's not good. if it's because you lead a…
/r/seduction16/01/20 12:51 AM
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I fully endorse the aubounty brand. Super absorbent and holds together well.
/r/seduction06/01/20 07:53 PM
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It's called sarcasm, my dude!
/r/seduction17/12/19 07:43 PM
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Only thing I would add is that in a position of power, faking it will not do. Actually learn your shit and make sure you're a proficient leader. If you don't know an answer, be truthful and be willing to find stuff out, rather than pretending to know. People can sniff out undeserving leaders from a mile away, and may not say anything to your face but they'll definitely talk about it behind your back.
/r/seduction17/12/19 07:33 PM
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Because the whole alpha and beta thing has been debunked. There are better, more descriptive and scientific ways to discuss these ideas and dichotomies.
/r/seduction16/12/19 05:17 PM
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I think change can be brought about positively as well. Think about one of the guiding principles of this sub: leave her better than when you found her. Supportive relationships can help people become better versions of themselves, and personal growth outside of a relationship can be spurred on by a good partner. But if that partner is trying to mold you not into your true self but instead of what they think you should be, well in my opinion they are not such a good partner. Anyone who thinks th…
/r/seduction16/12/19 05:15 PM
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https://youtu.be/UNxAZ7fobjY
/r/seduction09/12/19 05:23 PM
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A man doesn't need to shit test girls, because he qualifies them instead. In dating, you should know generally what you want in a woman (ie: have standards). Qualifying is when you make a woman prove to you whether they have those qualities you desire or not. This can be as simple as a question, ("Hey do you like cats?") or actually having them demonstrate said quality to you (here hold my cat). Essentially, you are screening her for the qualities you want in a future mate. This is what women ar…
/r/seduction11/11/19 06:33 PM
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Befriend girls and flirt with them Reduce anxiety ??? Profit
/r/seduction22/10/19 08:00 PM
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I think a slight improvement would be leading with "you are a good kisser" or even "you are a bad kisser" and depending on her response you can adjust your reaction. ie: good + agree: prove it good + disagree: show her how it's done bad + disagree: prove it bad + agree: give her some practice I doubt you'd get the negative response unless she had some self esteem issues or is very inexperienced though. but good to know for the future anyways
/r/seduction18/10/19 04:46 PM
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Yes, good point. Another reason I used the job analogy is because people often come out of interviews thinking a certain way. Generally, when someone fails to get a job after an interview, they'll probably think, "oh there must have been someone better," or "that interview didn't go so well for me," or potentially "I should improve my skills for next time." There's a natural growth-mindset when it comes to interviews. However, this doesn't happen with people new to approaching or socializing in …
/r/seduction29/08/19 01:41 AM
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You could say the same thing about companies and hiring people. With the internet and the ease of obtaining resumes and applicants these days, there's no shortage of talent out there. How is it possible that incompetent and unqualified people still get jobs? One possible reason is because there are perfectly qualified people sitting at home, not doing shit about it, while the incompetent person doesn't necessarily know they're incompetent, and applies anyway. Guess who gets the job.
/r/seduction28/08/19 01:23 PM
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dude your insecurities are showing. girls don't care about appearances as much as guys think they do. if you're well groomed and dress properly, I'd argue any guy can be like 7/10 at least, if you even believe in a 10 point scale. I just go by 1 or 0, yes or no.
/r/seduction28/08/19 11:23 AM
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it's more about high quality inner game than routines or crap. just self improvement, really.
/r/seduction26/08/19 02:38 PM
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It isn't impossible to learn on your own without guidance. Especially in today's world where information is so freely available, you are never truly without guidance. This can be applied to any skill. If you are learning without 1 on 1 coaching/teaching, then you will be doing a load more trial and error. Learning from your mistakes. But you do need to know what the end product looks like - otherwise you're putting together a puzzle without knowing the big picture. So I think the key is, visuali…
/r/seduction11/08/19 11:23 AM
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travel a bit and see how much of an upper hand it is having a non-american accent and being white. and like others have said, drop the insecurities. your hair colour defines you only if you let it. there are plenty of girls who like ginger guys. the UK is very dense and that can work well for meeting people. I'm from Canada and I meet way less people there compared to in the UK, where I lived for 5 years. I find location to be very important - go live for a bit in a uni city if you want masses o…
/r/seduction04/08/19 04:21 PM
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also you need to go in an order that builds comfort. the hips are an intimate area. start with hands and arms. move to legs, then back or abdomen. after that face, hair, neck. by this point you could go for the kiss. you have to gain acceptance at each stage though. look up the di carlo kino escalation ladder and tiers.
/r/seduction04/08/19 03:50 PM
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I don't think it is a translation error, but you still have a good point. the way I understand it, the shadow is the side of the personality that doesn't show itself for one reason or another (for example people with low self esteem may actually hide positive things in their shadow). being fully aware of all aspects of your personality is of course a good thing. however, the OP has specifically said "don't be nice" but also said his view of "niceness" is someone who agrees with everyone just to …
/r/seduction04/08/19 03:41 PM
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"do things that piss people off" seems pretty assholeish to me. if you need to be a jerk just to be memorable, you're doing something wrong.
/r/seduction03/08/19 05:27 PM
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I disagree with number 4. there's a difference between being a "nice guy" and not being a dick. you don't have to be an offensive dick in order to be charismatic. you just need to know your point of view (ie: firm boundaries) and stick to it. in old school pua lingo, it's just frame control.
/r/seduction03/08/19 11:51 AM
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Whatever, man. You've got more issues than I want to deal with, and I won't be replying to any more of your nonsensical walls of text.
/r/seduction12/07/19 10:27 PM
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Yes, clearly you are an expert on women seeing as you've never had a girlfriend or kissed a girl. Great logic. I'm not even going to bother refuting your points because you clearly aren't here to learn and don't care about improving yourself. I'm not even sure why you're here - to try to convince people that ugly people are less attractive than attractive people? This is a pretty obvious statement. If you want my diagnosis of the situation, you've got communication issues. THAT is something that…
/r/seduction12/07/19 05:03 PM
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Speaking as an asian man in Canada, sometimes. Online dating in particular is stacked towards/against certain ethnicities. OKCupid did a study over 5 years, and the results are quite interesting. The percentages are compared to the average. So for example in 2014, asian women were 24% more likely to interact with asian men than average. However, black, latina, and white women were all 12-14% less likely to interact with asian men. I would argue that online dating is weird because there's biases.…
/r/seduction11/07/19 02:32 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cec8va-bZiU Replace "sentence" with "paragraph" though. But don't worry! Since you seem to be new here, I'll point out where you've gone wrong in your thinking. But I highly recommend you check out the sidebar and do some reading for yourself. It depends on your attractiveness level No, it depends on her comfort level with you. If you haven't built up enough comfort and rapport, complimenting her might make it seem like you want something from her. Imagine you're …
/r/seduction11/07/19 02:21 PM
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who the fuck is upvoting this shit?
/r/seduction06/07/19 03:35 PM
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I would argue that your interpretation of the advice was poor. yes, asking you to do something can be a shit test. but you have to gauge the situation: does she actually need it done? or is she trying to take advantage? in "hold the drink" cases, there are many times where she may legitimately want / need you to hold the drink. if one of my girl friends asked me to do that at a bar, I wouldn't hesitate for two reasons: I know she'd do it for me, and there is a very real possibility that people m…
/r/seduction05/07/19 01:37 PM
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what to do: rejoice because now you know for sure he's not interested. you deserve someone who is as into you as you're into them. someone who responds excitedly to the idea of hanging out with you. time to go find that person. also take the time to reflect on your state as a person. are you where you want to be, and who you want to be? if not, figure out how to get there, and steadily work towards your ideal you. this ensures you're putting your best foot forward, when you're happy with yoursel…
/r/seduction06/06/19 09:38 PM
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Don't help an idiot pass their driving test, you're potentially putting lives at risk. Part of being a high quality man is having boundaries. Her shit should not be your problem.
/r/seduction18/05/19 03:35 PM
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How you doin'?
/r/seduction13/05/19 11:45 PM
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It's just the same for women. Like the guy said above, his buddy sometimes wasted whole nights on girls who weren't as physically attractive as they tried to appear. If you want to be a better date, be a better man. The upside for us is personality and humour can go a super long way.
/r/seduction09/05/19 09:57 PM
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Leia: I happen to like nice men. Han: I'm nice men.
/r/seduction08/04/19 07:59 PM
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dude just go for it. I'm 5' 10" and 130 lbs. being skinny doesn't mean you can't have confidence.
/r/seduction24/02/19 11:53 PM
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If that works for you, cool :) Personally, if I want to be more direct with my advances, I tell the person that I specifically want to see them or spend time with them. It's a good feeling (for them) to be desired, assuming they enjoy your company also.
/r/seduction13/02/19 03:45 AM
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The mental key for me is the number is not a big deal. The objective is to see her again, to continue your conversation and get to know her better. The number allows you to do that. Ask to see her again, and let the number be the means to an end, not the end itself.
/r/seduction12/02/19 11:51 PM
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"hey can I meet you real quick?"... she told me her name then turned around... you asked a bad question, then you got exactly what you asked for. what did you really want from her? did you say your own name before commenting about her shirt? if not maybe she just thought that was a bit awkward. also, remember that girls will get comments about their appearance a bajillion times a day. comment on something else, something that makes her say, hey no one has said that to me before, and I kind of li…
/r/seduction09/02/19 07:27 PM
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if you want a response the same day, don't text so late. she doesn't want to seem desperate, and so is waiting some time to text you. however if you're waiting so late to text, waiting a few hours means she's texting you either right before bed or in the middle of the night, both of which are less "casual" than she wants to portray, perhaps.
/r/seduction08/02/19 03:02 AM
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You have no idea how long he's been gaming for. Could be 2 years, could be 14. No need to make any assumptions about the guy, why not just give him the benefit of a doubt?
/r/seduction03/02/19 11:48 PM
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Frame them as positive. 1 rejection = 1 more girl that you filtered out who wasn't right for you. Also if you did something wrong, learn from your mistakes and don't repeat them.
/r/seduction18/01/19 10:17 PM
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This is next level game right here. Girl says hi, you walk away silently. Girl calls you, delete her number. Girl strips naked, fall asleep instantly. Girl puts you inside of her, clench your legs to deflate your erection. Etc.
/r/seduction17/01/19 09:30 PM
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So emotional awareness? But like you said, being aware isn't enough. Even if you know you are blabbing on, you need a level of control to be able to stop/switch to a different emotional state. Continuing on with your analogy, I feel like OP's post is basically saying "don't blab on and turn her off, do the opposite!" without actually giving concrete steps how. Faking a smile and just not saying anything doesn't address what I see as the root cause of this issue: not knowing how to hold an engagi…
/r/seduction31/12/18 01:15 PM
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Yes, but you can't fake your emotions all of the time, that would be a) exhausting, and b) eventually it would fail. Isn't it just better to get to the point where you genuinely feel those 3 things you mentioned above, rather than forcing yourself to feel them? ie: Let's say you aren't happy with your appearance. Instead of just forcing yourself to feel Pride in your current look, why not actually take some concrete steps to improve it? Then you can feel genuine Pride. This isn't undermining the…
/r/seduction31/12/18 04:20 AM
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Yeah it's kind of redundant. At what point do we say these guys are just using the sub to recruit for their service, rather than actually contributing?
/r/seduction30/12/18 05:01 AM
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Is it butthurt, or is it just personal experience and being able to provide a quick counter example?
/r/seduction28/12/18 12:53 AM
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If you internalize it, it becomes true. Try to find the sources of your insecurities and eliminate them.
/r/seduction12/12/18 04:44 PM
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Did you skip the whole flirting phase?
/r/seduction12/12/18 04:30 PM
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Nah the issue here is he probably just plonked the number down with 0 actual interaction/flirting. If the girl was at all interested she wouldn't have done this, and you should only really give your number once you've established a bit of rapport.
/r/seduction12/12/18 04:29 PM
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Step 1: Be attractive. Step 2: Don't be unattractive.
/r/seduction09/12/18 08:33 PM
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Looks like you're new here. You're not entitled to anyone's advice, so don't be negative about what people say to you, either take it or leave it. Just don't message her at all. Every guy who ever matches with her is probably shooting their load right out of the gate. If you want to be different, don't do that. The other guys are trying to say that even if you manage to not come off as a needy twat with your message, internally you still are, and she's going to find out eventually. Gotta actuall…
/r/seduction25/11/18 06:40 PM
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What? That is far too simple. He actually needs to calculate the number of blinks she made yesterday and add the difference in their age in hours, then divide by the number of characters in her first text to him. This will determine the exact number of seconds to wait before texting again. Also if she wore red, he needs to send a smiley face, and if she wore black, he needs to send a wink. However if she wore both at the same time, he should send a cute kitten instead. Finally, to determine the …
/r/seduction25/11/18 06:26 PM
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and clearly you have an underdeveloped brain...
/r/seduction21/10/18 06:38 PM
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he is not a good friend. plain and simple. people are going on about how he may be a natural or how you don't have a claim on every girl you like. but the bottom line is this: he doesn't care about your feelings. he doesn't care that he's hurting you. he fucked your girlfriend for fuck's sake. drop this bozo like a bad habit.
/r/seduction18/10/18 04:32 PM
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better doesn't mean perfect. and confidence is not about how others see you, it's about how you see yourself. I'm not sure if I understand your question. it's natural to care what other people think. if I am in a high pressure situation like a job interview or if I'm performing music in front of a crowd I still feel nervous. but there's nothing wrong with nervousness. confidence is being able to master your fear and present the best version of yourself. after I finish an interview or performance…
/r/seduction12/10/18 05:15 PM
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seeing people who don't have personal issues blazing through social situations this is why you're failing. it's not the haircut, the fashion, your tinder pics, or what you say. if you don't love yourself, how can you expect others to love you? sort out your personal issues first. try meditation. figure out your goals, your life (aside from women), hobbies, career, fitness, etc. become the best version of yourself and then you won't care whether you are successful with women or not. then, ironica…
/r/seduction12/10/18 03:49 PM
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1) I feel like this one is the girl feeling uncomfortable with conversation, like she doesn't know what to say during a silence. if this is after the halfway point of the date, I'd probably use the silence to escalate/kiss, or if she's already said it, you could playfully shush her then go for the kiss or say you want to show her something instead. 2) amplify and turn it into a joke. say you've met a million people that way, including that time (insert comedic story here). Alternatively you coul…
/r/seduction08/10/18 02:13 PM
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I used to buy into the alpha/beta thing, and tell myself to avoid certain behaviours and do others. however, I ended up realizing that confidence, attractiveness, and even dominance are not what most people on here are trying to accomplish, ultimately. if people come on here, it's generally because they are unhappy with some aspect of their life. being happy is the ultimate goal really, and part of achieving self actualization is to be able to fully know and express oneself. to that end, faking …
/r/seduction07/10/18 09:14 PM
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outcome independence, dude. don't get clingy before you even know her.
/r/seduction07/10/18 08:54 PM
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/r/seduction06/10/18 01:45 AM
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of course.
/r/seduction03/10/18 05:35 PM
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Umm rule 1 is don't be unattractive. Ugliness is not the same thing.
/r/seduction03/10/18 03:34 PM
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so you're not interested in women at all and you just to use them like a fuck toy? sounds like you need fetlife or something. or an actual fuck toy. two of the core ideas of this sub are a) becoming the best version of yourself and b) leaving her better than you found her. I don't think your request fits either of these two.
/r/seduction15/08/18 02:35 PM
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well, young girls are millennials, hot girls can be all ages. besides who doesn't appreciate a good milf? fairly sure my age group fits into the older end of "millennials" as well, but girls around my age typically don't care about instagram as much as younger ones, so i suppose our experiences may differ there. you're right, i've probably never done it right because i never use instagram, and i probably would not use it to meet women. in general, online methods for meeting women are biased towa…
/r/seduction14/08/18 09:41 PM
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oh my god, look how cool and millennial you are. calling is "creepy" now? think about how most real business is conducted. via emails and phone calls. not text messages, and definitely not via memes and instagram. instagram is for fucking orbiters. also, girls are only protective of their number if you haven't built up your rapport and comfort properly. it's their way of saying i don't trust you. if you're not asking for her number, you're not getting a gauge on whether you've built up a connect…
/r/seduction14/08/18 09:16 PM
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When you're talking and there's that kind of natural lull in the conversation - that's the time to escalate. Don't try to come up with something to say real quick to fill the silence, let the sexual tension build a bit. Use eye contact, initiate or ramp up some physical contact, and flirt. Lead the interaction. I like to sit beside instead of across from the other person on dates. However most people assume they should sit across from the other person. If this happens, try and switch it later (w…
/r/seduction22/07/18 05:04 PM
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are you non Caucasian in a fairly small UK town? I think after brexit, some British people are just more openly racist tbh.
/r/seduction09/07/18 02:38 AM
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it was debunked by the same guy who first hypothesized the concept based on erroneous data.... if you don't understand how this invalidates the entire claim, then I'm sorry but we can't help you.
/r/seduction22/06/18 04:09 PM
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agreed. also the whole "alpha" thing has been debunked ages ago anyways. it's about value, not wolf pack mentality.
/r/seduction21/06/18 09:48 PM
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have you tried meetup groups? anything good near you?
/r/seduction17/06/18 08:54 PM
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what do you enjoy?
/r/seduction17/06/18 06:38 PM
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solution: don't go out with that group if it's causing you to stick with inaction. inertia is difficult to overcome, and if none of your current friends are social with girls and you want to be, you need to find yourself some new friends. go out alone, go to events you enjoy, and just talk to people. also don't confuse social media with social circle game, those are different things. you can have a normal social media profile (ie: not have thousands of friends or followers or likes or shit) and …
/r/seduction17/06/18 05:07 PM
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most of them were 2 - 6 people dude, why. surely you can find some solo girls to approach? holding a convo with two complete strangers is not easy, and also the thought process of whoever you're trying to ask out is going to be drastically different if their friend is there beside them. go for solo girls. when you do it, don't say it's random or forward, just act like it's normal. because it is normal, people just aren't used to it when they're younger. find something to talk about that's situat…
/r/seduction07/05/18 07:37 PM
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just say you're bringing drinks, or that you're not going to drink?
/r/seduction19/04/18 06:59 PM
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as a migraine sufferer, if someone texts me about plans while I'm having an attack, the last thing I would want to do is figure out when I could meet them. I just want to lie in a dark room until it goes away, which can take hours or days. it actually sometimes feels like it will never get better, and so I might even be afraid to make plans with friends in case I am not better yet. you're right that if she doesn't offer an alternative, generally it means she may not have such a huge desire to me…
/r/seduction19/04/18 06:55 PM
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assume attraction until proven otherwise. this is not to say just kiss a girl when you meet her, but act with the confidence to pursue her as if you knew she were 100% interested. that allows you to put your best foot forward. if you get a rejection, then you can break down why afterwards (she has a bf, she's too nice to not talk to people, you said something to turn her off, you had spinach in your teeth, etc), but assuming attraction will give you the best chance in the moment. also helps you …
/r/seduction31/03/18 11:37 AM
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talking to people is not high risk. "unadjusted flirting" which can be misconstrued as sexual harassment serious enough to warrant an expulsion is something completely different. i'm sorry for your situation, but i imagine you listened to some really shitty advice from some so-called "pick up artists". i hope you can give back to the community by sharing your story so others don't do the same.
/r/seduction21/02/18 04:29 PM
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no, but you don't lose your right hand when you get rejected by girls so your point is moot. getting rejected sucks. but it literally has no impact on your value as a person, or any physical impact other than your physiological reaction (which can be adapted also). just like losing in a video game. people bang their keyboards and freak out if they lose a video game sometimes, but it doesn't really change anything about their lives. I imagine the point of the post is to show people that they can …
/r/seduction20/02/18 09:03 PM
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you're not wrong, but you we also don't know the story of the original writer. for all we know this was the latest in a long string of flakes, but the first one he overcame instead of letting himself go through the depressed motions of smoking /drinking /binge eating. a lack of empathy is not attractive either, in my opinion.
/r/seduction23/01/18 02:50 AM
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Well done! u/ImJustSo is totally right though - you know those situations where women are like "god I gave him so many signals but he was totally oblivious?" This is (potentially) one of those situations. It's good to note that some girls are just friendly, but in the absence of other evidence, assume attraction. Here's another example for you: I was standing near a bus stop looking for a schedule or something. A girl walks up to me and asks which bus I'm taking, and when I explain that I have n…
/r/seduction19/01/18 04:26 AM
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I think in general, have something later at your place, don't spoil the moment. if you're both foodies and connected based on a mutual love of kebabs or something, then go for it? but imo you don't want to interrupt the flow of the moment. she's agreed to go home with you, she knows what that means, she's thinking about sex now, not food. are you nervous about cooking or something? if so, practice and learn, etc.
/r/seduction17/01/18 12:35 PM
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from the get go I'd say you were in the wrong mindset. just because your friend is "better looking" or whatever and got rejected doesn't mean the same thing would happen to you. maybe you're her type. it's better to go in with no expectations or preconceptions. i hate dancefloor game. i hate it. but that's just me because i don't enjoy dancing and it doesn't showcase my most attractive qualities. your mileage may vary. but in general, i think that if you want to dance with someone, it's better t…
/r/seduction31/12/17 05:47 PM
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time heals all. my high-school girlfriend and I were together a year and she broke up with me right before prom. took years for me to get over her, but looking back you'll be able to see how far you've come. the biggest eye opener was meeting girls who actually suited me better than her, and who I felt even more strongly for. just gotta get yourself out there!
/r/seduction24/12/17 02:51 PM
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remember that people go to the pub to be social. they want to meet new people, or else they would have stayed at home drinking. personally I'm not so keen on approaching at the gym and I have no experience with raves. I think the hesitation comes when you think you will be interrupting the girl and her friends. one way to counter this is to imagine yourself in her situation: you're with your buddies at the bar, just chilling and chatting. suddenly an attractive girl comes over and says she wants…
/r/seduction24/12/17 02:46 PM
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dude she clearly does not respect you, I'm sorry to say. flaking once, potentially excusable. flaking twice with no apologies and a pure cold shoulder?? that's inexcusable bullshit. that being said, there's no need to bring it up. let the past die, as some people say. but do not think that she will gain respect for you suddenly. I get that it's difficult with her being your first gf and all. even if you were "clingy", in a good relationship you learn to communicate this better to your partner, a…
/r/seduction24/12/17 02:31 PM
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the only time I've experienced hostility at a bar is when I'm at those really shit clubs where people go because they think it's the thing to do, but they're not actually enjoying themselves. these places are generally filled with insecure dudes who think that acting super masculine is the only way to attract girls. they generally try to take value from others. I imagine some of them feel intimidated by you, whether that's your looks or your height. you may not be as buff as they are, but they s…
/r/seduction24/12/17 02:11 PM
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tbh dating apps suck in general unless you're either extremely good looking and/or you have really good photos and/or you fit the "typical" kind of guy they like. girls have the luxury of (and are receiving a barrage of messages from) a huge selection of guys online, so they are not as realistic or open minded with their tastes (in my opinion). this can work in your advantage slightly because then you know the girls who respond have a higher chance of actually being interested, but getting an ac…
/r/seduction24/12/17 02:26 AM
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dude. you've got the skills you need. hopefully in your six year relationship you still found the time to flirt, be playful, tease, and make her feel sexy and desired. you just need to get used to applying these skills to other girls. it's probably a mental problem rather than a technical skills one. one thing I've found to help is simply treat the girl as if you're already lovers. if you're standing, imagine how you'd hold or touch or look at your girlfriend - arm around her waist, pulled in cl…
/r/seduction24/12/17 02:18 AM
1

just say have a nice time with the parents, maybe make some joke or reference to a previous conversation (ie: you talked about her favourite food, 'maybe at least there'll be pork chops' whatever), then leave it until you know she's back, or until she texts you that she's back in town (ideal ioi). then ask her out again. if she texts you while she's at home, take that as a good sign, though I'm unsure how much time you should spend replying to her (depends how many dates you've had or what kind …
/r/seduction22/12/17 01:00 AM
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you shouldn't need to tell her to think of you, if you're doing the whole seducing thing right.
/r/seduction22/12/17 12:45 AM
1

the job market is competitive, not sure what version of Canada you live in where people should have some sort of job entitlement just because they are of a certain nationality. the same goes for university spots. if international students are edging out Canadian students, that's a wake up call for our education system. as a teacher, I think we have it good compared to many other countries out there. post secondary education is not something that everyone is going to obtain. I believe everyone de…
/r/MGTOW24/11/17 09:48 PM
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the following points are from the article you linked. The truth, it is turning out, is somewhere in the middle. even the article you linked states that there is neither a clear benefit nor disadvantage to allowing more immigrants in. it's a complex issue with pros and cons (like many real life issues) There is relatively little data on the effect on wages. the only sector that clearly loses out, according to the article, is low income jobs. so we're talking mcdonalds and Walmart, not exactly job…
/r/MGTOW24/11/17 09:25 PM
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I'm open to hearing your reasoning of how this is true, but I've yet to see any. If you don't have any stats or facts to back up your opinion, that's ok, but then it's just your opinion and has no basis in reality. Anecdotal evidence does not count.
/r/MGTOW24/11/17 08:04 PM
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he's done more service than you, clearly.
/r/MGTOW24/11/17 06:24 PM
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unless you're one of the first nations, you're from a family of immigrants too... don't see your point.
/r/MGTOW24/11/17 06:22 PM
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you're probably right about not being physical enough. I'll give you some strategies you can use but don't over think it though, try to keep things playful. choose a date setting where you can sit beside each other, or at right angles. booth in a bar, small table for coffee, bench at a park, whatever. look for these opportunities. if you start off across from her, make a change later. a lot of girls want to sit across from guys to look at them directly while they talk. if she naturally goes for …
/r/seduction06/11/17 02:15 PM
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I'm just trying to get her to chase me more, not text/call me a bunch of times and then I ignore all of them for almost a week and she get angry and move on. you are too invested in the outcome. the fact that you are worried about her "getting angry and moving on" is the root of your neediness. if you want to get past this, the fastest way (in my opinion) is to just go on this vacation, don't message her, and when you get back you'll realize that a) you're not dead (ie: whether you text or not h…
/r/seduction23/10/17 07:14 PM
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I do that often not listening to feedback.
/r/seduction23/10/17 07:10 PM
1

well according to the Wikipedia article, this is only because the narcissistic side of these people makes them put more effort into their day to day appearance. when they were dressed down, they returned to baseline levels of attractiveness. so a non dark triad person could theoretically be as attractive at first sight if they put as much of an effort into their appearance everyday.
/r/seduction07/10/17 01:10 PM
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At the basic level, socialization is the same whether with women or with men. It's just that with the women you want to get intimate with, you have to initiate physical contact more and show your intentions clearly. Go out and talk to some random people about situational things. Don't worry about what's going to happen after the conversation, just focus on the actual conversation, focus on listening and actually responding to the person. Get to know them. Eventually you'll be able to talk to any…
/r/seduction21/09/17 02:37 AM
1

I think your issue is clearly your lack of self esteem. if you don't love yourself how do you expect someone to love you?
/r/seduction16/09/17 01:58 AM
19

I agree. A strong relationship requires some vulnerability from both parties involved. This is generally not encouraged in the attraction/seduction phase.
/r/seduction05/09/17 03:19 PM
14

fucking hell that blog just screams "judgemental bitch" to me. how many goddamn criteria do you need to spell out? let's be real, tinder is shit. making a good first impression is far easier in real life, and especially now in a time where people are so fucking awkward that they can't even talk to the opposite sex except through a phone, making an approach in person makes a much bigger impact. I'd rather spend my time doing that, rather than trying to get six perfectly posed pictures of myself. …
/r/seduction31/08/17 02:23 PM
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what if you came at this from a different angle: what makes a healthy relationship? open communication, trust, respect, etc. sure, but you also need PHYSICAL CHEMISTRY. that's the difference between best friends and lovers. chemistry, despite all the romanticism, is not something that "just happens". I would put it down to people following their biological instincts and letting themselves be in the moment with their partner, and giving themselves over to their more primal desires. if you want ch…
/r/seduction24/08/17 02:49 PM
12

IF YOU WON'T TALK, SHE WON'T KNOW YOUR COCK. EXISTS.
/r/seduction23/08/17 10:41 PM
1

damn... good post. everyone should be mindful that at one point every single couple, every pair of best friends, etc., used to be strangers to each other. don't underestimate the impact you can have on someone.
/r/seduction22/08/17 09:28 PM
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online response rates are generally terrible. if you ever want to see why, make a fake female profile and sift through the messages you get. My advice would be to first focus on making female friends. it sounds like you have no experience talking to women at all, from your comment below. what hobbies do you have, and are there places near you to go do those things? once you have made some close female friends, then you'll feel more normal about talking to them and being around them. that's when …
/r/seduction14/07/17 06:00 AM
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please for the love of God make sure to escalate. have fun buddy.
/r/seduction30/06/17 07:14 PM
16

judging from the body language I'd surmise that the woman is a stranger. the way the guy in shorts hovers around while they're interacting is extremely needy, and (assuming he's friends with the girl) the way the woman just ignored and neglected him is kind of rude to the point where I think that either the whole thing is staged, or she's not that good of a friend. if I had to guess I'd probably say she keeps him around as an orbiter.
/r/seduction30/06/17 06:03 AM
2

Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha
/r/seduction28/03/17 03:47 PM
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shape is not the only issue. we already know that female attraction is based around a lot of other factors such as confidence, preselection by other females, grooming, etc. the question is what other great qualities does the guy have to balance out his lack of shape? does he smell nice? is he funny? does he have hobbies and skills and is he passionate about life? you can either believe this, or believe in the old paradigm that appearance is the be all and end all, and that there are such things …
/r/seduction15/03/17 01:04 PM
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imo the red pill is "how to pretend to be a man by treating everyone rudely to get stuff that you don't even want but the Internet told you men should want."
/r/seduction17/02/17 03:31 PM
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I think the most important thing to highlight is that intent is the issue. if you do something nice for someone (guy or girl) and expect some sort of compensation, whether that's something nice for you, something sexual, increased attention, etc, then you have not actually done a nice thing. you have tried to complete a business transaction, and you've put all your cards on the table. a few months ago the girl I'm dating was ill at a party we were at. she ended up just going to bed. in the morni…
/r/seduction17/02/17 03:27 PM
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If you're not good at conversation, don't make the focus of the date conversation. Conversation-focused dates include: dinner, coffee, drinks at a quiet bar. For a first date it's a good idea to take the focus off of you two. Obviously you'll still want to talk, but don't make it the primary focus. Do an activity or something involving watching others potentially - walk in the park, gallery, bowling, live music, etc. What you don't want is an activity where talking is difficult, such as a loud v…
/r/seduction17/11/16 02:40 PM
2

Well thinking you're a great big loser is just a self-defeating mentality. What defines a loser? There's no universal definition of who is cool and who isn't, that's just society and the media influencing you. To a bunch of WoW nerds, a level 90 Paladin is not a loser. To a bunch of ultimate frisbee players, someone obsessed with discing is not a loser. Someone who plays country music might be labelled a loser by some, but in Nashville they'd be a star. You just need to find your niche. You're w…
/r/seduction27/09/16 12:22 PM
2

No I don't expect hostility. I expect that if you're coming here asking for advice, you're going to be open minded and at least try to take in what people are saying to you. I already told you that I used to be looking from the outside just like you, but that has changed. It can change for you as well. If you want a reference point, I'm a skinny Chinese dude who plays a lot of text based RPGs, MMOs, and whatever else. You know what stereotypes we're stuck with? We can play piano or violin, and h…
/r/seduction25/09/16 10:47 AM
1

dude you're judging these people based on very few facts and many assumptions. have you ever tried taking a jog or working out with headphones in? the last thing you'd notice is some ugly ass unconfident girl looking at you. you said it yourself, there's tons of these girls around. how does that make them special? basic bitches are a dime a dozen. the reason some of them ignore you might be because they're used to men actually coming up to talk to them, and as such assume you're not interested i…
/r/seduction24/09/16 09:20 AM
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picture the girl of your dreams. let's call her Darlene. she wakes up in the morning with angelic hair tousled all over her face, her perfect naked form beside your body under the covers. you wrap an arm around her and she snuggles against you, the warmth of her skin making you recall the ecstasy of last night. she rolls over and kisses you, and you can smell the sweet stench of morning breath on her lips. slight bits of food from the restaurant last night still grace her teeth, as she didn't ha…
/r/seduction23/09/16 04:24 PM
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tldr: how to have a conversation. you'd hope a girl you are with has some common interests!
/r/seduction03/09/16 10:27 PM
1

Umm, the first girl should have really said bye, assuming you've actually built a bit of a connection. Perhaps you're failing to rapidly connect with her. The second one just sounded disinterested, why pursue that when there are many other options? Remember you're out to have fun, if you act in that interest, girls will come to you. My rule of thumb is only go for the number if I would genuinely want to see her again.
/r/seduction29/08/16 11:54 AM
2

5 minutes? Filthy casual.
/r/seduction18/08/16 02:00 PM
2

Sigh. This is like, basic stuff: leave her better than when you found her. Why would you seek revenge like a petty asshole? Glad you realized this.
/r/seduction19/07/16 11:06 AM
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Just carry a spare dildo around with you, and when this happens use some slight of hand to slip it in the bag before she notices. Then peek inside the bag and act shocked when you find "her" dildo, wave it around a bit, hilarity ensues. No one hands you a bag ever again.
/r/seduction06/07/16 02:48 PM
2

The time? You can check my watch - the funny thing about my watch is it's on my cock.
/r/seduction29/06/16 04:40 PM
10

Nice work. Just wondering, where is this? Cultural context may be relevant.
/r/seduction21/06/16 01:41 PM
3

Basically what knomb said below. If you have to go out of your way, what's wrong with that? Confidence is seeing what you want and going after it, even if there's perhaps an obstacle (in this case, distanced departments) in your way. I started dating a co-worker of mine, and she told me the first times I went to talk to her she was super nervous because she found me attractive, and kept thinking to herself, "Why is he talking to me? Don't freak out..." etc. I'm guessing the smiling and looking d…
/r/seduction20/06/16 10:48 AM
12

If you think about this too much, you'll spend the whole time looking for IOIs. Waste of time. Assume attraction, get out of your head and into the moment, and just lead the interaction.
/r/seduction01/06/16 02:04 PM
2

What the fuck guys? This article is shit. The grammar sucks. The message is mixed (be confident and authentic and oh yeah, fake being busy by waiting 3 days to call), and the whole thing is old news. To top it all off, the title of the article is fucking click bait (you won't believe how wrong the seduction community was!) but then only talks about how negs are shit. Hello! Of course negs are shit in general. The whole point of negs is to disarm those girls with insane levels of self esteem and …
/r/seduction01/06/16 02:00 PM
3

"Hey I gotta go to work after this coffee, but..."
/r/seduction10/05/16 06:04 PM
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That is so fucked up, I have the exact same quote as my phone lock screen, and I'm also an asian dude. What is GOING ON. edit: JESUS CHRIST HIS NAME IS MIKE ALSO. WHAAAAAAT THE FUCK
/r/seduction07/04/16 06:27 PM
5

Exactly this. If you're so fucking desperate for sex that you think lying (by omission) about an STD and possibly infecting a new partner with a potentially permanent infection is worth a quick lay, there is something wrong with you.
/r/seduction04/04/16 02:05 PM
6

Jian Ghomeshi?
/r/seduction10/02/16 04:48 PM
3

It's the same way you get out of bed in the morning. Sure it'd be nicer to stay all warm and cozy in bed, but then you start thinking of the shit you've got to do and then in a strange moment you have to decide whether you're going to jump out of bed or not. For some people, finally deciding to do this comes too late - maybe you snoozed the alarm once too many times and suddenly you're late for work and don't have time for a shower. You scramble out of bed and rush to get ready for whatever, but…
/r/seduction12/01/16 06:38 PM
1

Well it's all about creating your own routines or canned lines/stories instead of using ones you read elsewhere. Sometimes it can be misinterpreted though - I remember one time I was messaging a girl on okstupid, and I made up a really wacky/goofy date. Basically said, ok this is what's going to happen when we meet up, laid it out step by step with really ridiculous activities. Then she told me that she looked it up and I was just copying some guy's thing on the internet, when in actuality I had…
/r/seduction04/01/16 10:47 PM
2

Just keep on keepin' on, but don't get so drunk? Did you kiss her on the dance floor?
/r/seduction04/01/16 07:44 PM
2

Once you start touching people regularly, people don't think of you as a perv, they think of you as a touchy guy who is able to connect with them physically in ways that other people can't. I've had girls comment to me and say things like they noticed I was very touchy when we first met, etc. but if you do it in a socially acceptable away, it doesn't come off as creepy (ie: escalate appropriately).
/r/seduction27/12/15 08:03 PM
1

Hey man, not disagreeing with your post at all, but the fact that you start off by saying you're "extremely short/part Asian" sounds to me like you have some preconceptions about yourself which might be hurting your game subconsciously. Don't get too in your head thinking about your height/race. Especially since these are things you can't change about yourself. Just own them, and go in with 100% confidence. In Mark Manson's terms, if girls are polarized and don't like you because of your race/he…
/r/seduction30/11/15 06:41 PM
13

well are you just the cutest cutie patoodie?? cheek pinch
/r/seduction25/11/15 07:49 PM
3

You should check out Pricipia Amoris - it's basically John Gottman attempting to encapsulate Love in a mathematical/scientific way. The data and theory behind it are pretty ridiculous, I have an engineering background and my eyes just glazed over looking at most of the graphs in the book.
/r/seduction23/11/15 05:22 PM
18

Not sure if brilliant satire or misguided tool...
/r/seduction10/11/15 10:44 AM
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Hey man, So first off, of course don't take it personally - maybe she just got busy and then forgot to reply, later realized she forgot and figured it was too late, etc. Secondly, there are two ways to get rid of flakes like this. Firstly is by calling instead of texting - yeah it might seem old fashioned, but you can get everything planned, she can hear your sexy voice, and then you can say see you then and you're all set. However, some girls don't like talking on the phone, or when you call th…
/r/seduction02/11/15 08:03 PM
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Breaking this down... Questions 1 and 2 tend to come about when the girl thinks that the guy is "out of her league" or too charming for his own good sort of thing. They could indicate a lack of self confidence (girls are people with their own insecurities and stuff too). The third one, "I'm not going to give you what you want," that is just flirting/playing hard to get. Or could indicate she's a bit of a control freak/vindictive bitch. Case 1 is a good opportunity to show some vulnerability and …
/r/seduction31/10/15 05:36 PM
1

Honestly it's kind of an amazing screening tool. Any girl who follows some random bathroom writing must literally be batshit insane or fucking stupid. Let them walk and save yourself for the intelligent thoughtful girls who actually think and make decisions for themselves. In future I'd just bring it up before they see it and have a conversation about it. If they seem like they believe said list, take the piss out of them for being a fucking retard. God it's hilarious really, like some sort of e…
/r/seduction29/10/15 08:29 AM
1

Find bars that don't charge cover and tell them you're designated driver, that might get you a free soda? Otherwise just order a glass of water, not going because of money is just an excuse!
/r/seduction29/10/15 08:20 AM
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When y'all text schedule a meetup and say ur busy. Nothing dries her up faster than platonic, mundane texting. Nothing shrivels up my dick faster than people trying to play games. Why not just be fucking honest? If you want to see her, say so. If she's not down, then find someone who is going to be honest and clear with their intentions. You're adults, not highschoolers. Now I'm not saying to profess your fucking love to her, but just be goddamn clear. If you're busy, then say so, if you're not,…
/r/seduction15/10/15 07:13 PM
2

Woah wait did you actually text her what he said verbatim? o_O
/r/seduction15/10/15 07:08 PM
2

Great ideas, thanks! This would work great if I was back home in Canada, but I'm in the land of ready meals, takeaways, and pubs here in England.
/r/seduction29/09/15 05:10 PM
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Hey man, nice post. I especially like the spreadsheet. What would you advise for someone who is busy during the core hours of the day? I work like 10 hours a day, can't leave my workplace for lunch, and by the time I get home I'm usually just ready to sleep (or have more work to do). Kind of limits the amount of people I run into. Is this one of those times where I might just have to up and move to a better situation? I like to think I'm not just making lame excuses... but who knows.
/r/seduction28/09/15 07:59 PM
2

Not an "expert" by any means, but I've strugged with this one in the past, and I'm fairly sure that it's mostly a self-limiting mindset. Yes online studies have shown different things, but that's online where guys can "approach" 100+ women a day without ever leaving the comfort of their desk chair, and women get messaged a shitton so they are a bit more shallow (imo). This is part of the reason I've given up with online dating (other factors such as location, etc. play into it). In real life, if…
/r/seduction19/09/15 10:55 AM
2

Right, so you kind of explained the whole thing by yourself :) You said you are uncomfortable with anything you haven't done before. If you walk into a new bar and you are uncomfortable, you just need to realize it's because it is something new, not because the bar itself is necessarily making you uncomfortable. Once you realize that, then you can start assessing the actual venue from a more objective point of view to figure out if you actually like the place or not. To help you, maybe it would …
/r/seduction14/09/15 06:45 PM
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Be in environments I feel comfortable in This is pretty key. If you don't like club music and EDM or whatever, there's no point going to those kinds of places. Find your niche, whether that's a quiet whiskey bar, comedy club, rock/punk scene, etc. You're more likely to meet people that you naturally like and connect with! Good work, and keep on keepin' on :)
/r/seduction13/09/15 03:03 PM
1

Eugh, I hate these generalizations. I always walk fast and talk fast and work fast because I just want to get shit done, and it's how my brain works. I hate slow walkers, I take long fucking strides, if people are hunt-and-peck typing I have to remind myself not to snatch the goddamn keyboard out of their hands and do it for them. I suppose at work my behaviour is different to a relaxed situation though. shrug
/r/seduction09/09/15 04:14 PM
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Nice work. When you said to stop and think about what I'd do, I thought to myself, I'd prolly just tap him on the shoulder and introduce myself and just be social. I'm wondering one thing though - when you said you invited him to come drink and he was stoked, did you intend on ostracizing him from the get go? Or would you have actually let him in on your group if he had been more socially ept/friendly at the start?
/r/seduction24/08/15 01:10 PM
7

We are all humans in the end. No one person is better or worth more than any other. Sure some people may have more money or what else, but their worth as a human being does not change.
/r/seduction20/07/15 02:40 PM
9

First you have to work out why you're bothered. Is it because "pick up artists" are seen as untrustworthy/manipulative? You don't have to give yourself a label just because you want to improve your social skills. Is it because you feel like your friends are more socially able without having to "study" techniques or read about how to talk to people? Well that's fine too, because different people learn in different ways, and there are people who are more socially adjusted than others. If this is w…
/r/seduction20/07/15 02:24 PM
8

What did she "do"? He asked a closed question (first error) which she answered with as long an answer as you'd expect any average stranger to. It'd be like me wearing a suit and someone asking, "Hey were you just at a wedding?" "uhh... no?" I'd probably reply. I mean he could have made it a bit fun and try to guess her coffee type or something, or just open with a solid "Hello, I'm ____". She's not being bitchy just for answering his question. In any case, maybe she was just on her way for a jog…
/r/seduction20/07/15 02:16 PM
2

I'm still not sure about this - I think that it has more to do with the man taking the lead, and women enjoying that. For example, if you meet a girl abroad and decide to try to move closer to her and get a job and stuff to explore the possibility of a long term relationship, that IS an adventure, and she is a major part of that. It's fine if she's one of the focuses of the adventure. The thing is that the man will probably need to take the lead/initiative, bring up the discussions and actually …
/r/seduction05/07/15 09:15 AM
2

Did any of them have cute daughters?
/r/seduction30/05/15 10:56 AM
8

Not sure why you're being down voted, you've hit the nail on the head. You need to be the best version of yourself - then it won't really matter what you talk about. I've talked to girls about dungeons and dragons and mechanical engineering because that's the stuff I'm passionate about, but behind the scenes I've also been working on my fitness and fashion.
/r/seduction30/05/15 10:17 AM
10

What is the point of this article? To illustrate a paradox? You've got a woman giving advice and saying "don't take advice from women". Also this blog looks like it was made in 1996.
/r/seduction31/03/15 06:18 PM
1

You: This food is good, eh? Her: No I don't really like the fact that they used anchovies. You: Yeah you're right, anchovies suck. This food sucks. In general, just say what you mean and if she has a differing opinion, don't let that affect how you feel about something. You're ALLOWED to have differing opinions. A lot of guys go into dates thinking that they have to be a cookie cutter match for the girl, but there's always going to be some differences. Stick to your guns.
/r/seduction27/03/15 05:42 PM
5

Yeah a voicemail with a name is really just the same as a text with a name and a "nice to meet you". Just down to personal style I guess.
/r/seduction18/03/15 05:16 PM
34

grabs hand "Because you could totally be a hand model."
/r/seduction27/02/15 07:53 PM
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I found that summary the least intriguing to be honest. I choose to think what I think, I don't just observe myself thinking. Doesn't make sense to me.
/r/seduction06/02/15 08:17 PM
1

Reading this and having the same name as you was trippy as fuck. Good work, fellow Michael. Son of a bitch stole my line!
/r/seduction20/01/15 11:28 PM
1

lol "low-key badass". what a guy. classic case of reading her actions instead of her words. if she really didn't want to talk to him, she would have just turned/walked away.
/r/seduction19/01/15 11:16 PM
8

Hey OP, nice work. You should post an FR of your first interaction with her! That'd be super educational :)
/r/seduction13/01/15 05:54 PM
5

Ok she's basically asking you out and you just need to set a date and time. She wasn't FLAKING on you if you didn't actually set up a date. That's not flaking, that's just turning down a date for reasons. Whether the reasons are legitimate or not it doesn't matter. If a girl consistently says she's busy, then yes she's just playing with you. But this girl seems like she wants to get in touch with you now, so I don't see the harm in saying, "yeah french lesson, xyz time/place" and seeing what she…
/r/seduction01/01/15 03:28 PM
1

Good stuff man, just keep being awesome :)
/r/seduction10/12/14 05:22 PM
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Meh, I'm asian (Chinese) and I've come to just embrace it really. I always thought it was going to be kind of a setback talking to caucasian girls, but in the end it's actually a great thing. If a girl rejects you because of race, do you really want to be with her anyways? Sounds really close-minded to me. On the other hand, girls who are receptive to you will usually be more curious because you're a bit different, a little exotic. Just don't fit into the asian stereotypes too much and it'll be …
/r/seduction04/12/14 06:34 PM
5

Yes these are a general guideline obviously. You could make the same good/bad argument about any fucking topic: Food - what if she has an eating disorder Travel - her parents died in a plane accident Adventure/fitness - she lost her brother to rhabdomyolysis Pets - she recently lost a pet Ambitions/passions - she has none The best guideline imo is asking "why" as a carry on, like "why do you think/do..." or for opinions, "what did you think about ... " Can fit for any topic or conversation point…
/r/seduction16/11/14 09:34 PM
16

Sometimes you don't even need to ask questions. I was with a group of rando girls one night at a club, dancing a bit. One of them whispers to me, "she's (points over to her friend) single and really horny right now." I just kind of laughed and kept dancing. facepalm. You just need to take action after! Don't be kicking yourself :)
/r/seduction14/11/14 07:11 PM
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Dude, 100 approaches is amazing! I've probably done 4 approaches in the last couple months, which is pretty shitty and I need to do something about it (out of the 4, 1 make out, 1 first date). Let's not focus on the outcomes though - did you walk up to each person with the intent of getting the number? If you do, you're worse off from the start. Don't focus on the outcome, focus on the interaction. For me, getting the number is almost an afterthought now. Focus on seeing if you actually like the…
/r/seduction11/11/14 10:59 PM
5

The problem is that you know what you want but you're being a doormat and letting girls determine the kind of relationship you're in. You said very clearly all you want is casual sex. Then for some reason you enter into long relationships with women instead of going after what you want. Are you afraid of losing them if you tell them you just want sex? Don't torture yourself if you know that you don't actually want a relationship, that is pretty shitty because it builds up hope for the girls who …
/r/seduction09/11/14 09:54 AM
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I dunno man, I'm a katana wielding fedora loser and I've had more success than you this year :P I'm mostly kidding. What I find odd about your post is you think that you have this sense of entitlement/elitism. You don't automatically get chicks because you're tall and in great shape (though it helps). You're no better or worse than a "katana wielding fedora loser". He is still a person. In fact, he is probably more comfortable with himself than you are, to be able to express himself so freely wi…
/r/seduction27/10/14 12:56 PM
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Hahaha how was this a dick move? He made his intentions 100% clear, and then she made her decision to have sex with him. She never said anything about "saving" her virginity for anyone, so she doesn't need you white-knighting for her. People like you are why girls feel slut-shamed when they have sex, and also why virgins think there's some sort of amazing golden ray that shoots down from the heavens when they have sex for the first time. There's nothing. Sex is just sex, and people should start …
/r/seduction18/10/14 07:27 AM
3

Her: "Yeah totally, I think it's a super rewarding job! I love it." Me: "I get the same feeling when I'm teaching, especially when the kids say stuff like 'Oh I get it now!', I just get these nice shivers." Her: "So what do you teach?" Me: Blah blah, etc. It's just about conversation threading really. Take one point and expand on it, leave some things unsaid and others should be curious about it, etc. I think with kino in front of friends, or really in general, the more you do it, the more comfo…
/r/seduction12/10/14 02:01 PM
3

For the emotional vibes thing, do you also kino while talking to her? That can help to build up an emotional connection too. Well if you do it right, it shouldn't really be superficial small talk or an interrogation. Mix questions with statements too. One example I could use would be a couple nights ago at the club I plunked myself down next to this girl on a couch and started talking to her. We eventually got onto the topic of jobs, she said she was a carer for children with disabilities, and I…
/r/seduction12/10/14 11:39 AM
9

I don't know why people are downvoting you. You have a perfectly valid question. The solution to your conversation woes is to ask more meaningful open-ended questions. Instead of making a comment about where she lives, ask her what her favourite thing about it is. Instead of asking her what her program is like, ask her why she's in it, is that one of her passions, etc. If you ask stuff like that and you're still getting bland answers, it might just be that you're asking the wrong girls! There ar…
/r/seduction12/10/14 11:28 AM
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Hello and welcome, My biggest passions are music and cooking. People often think that passions are ingrained or unchangeable, but I've read that (and agree with) the more you do something, the more passionate you become about it. In terms of budget, a cheap guitar might cost $100, or you might be able to score one at a pawn shop or something. Teach yourself, instead of taking lessons! You have to eat anyways, might as well experiment with foods or practice some new recipes. Have 2-3 dishes you l…
/r/seduction11/10/14 01:27 PM
3

The current seduction mindset is less about routines/lines and much more about self-actualization, such that women will gravitate towards you. Gaining more hobbies is one element of self improvement, just like going to the gym or grooming better or dressing well.
/r/seduction11/10/14 01:18 PM
2

I've gotten a handful of dates from okcupid, which usually lead to more. Pof I can't seem to even get a message back. I recently deactivated my okcupid account because even though I was meeting women through it, I knew I was using it as a crutch when going out. "Ah I don't need to talk to that girl, I'm talking to soandso on okc..." etc. It's motivated me to do more real life interaction, and at the end of the day, that "we just met randomly on the street/train/bar" story is what women want to b…
/r/seduction26/09/14 05:59 PM
1

It is, however, possible to catch/be infected by multiple strains at the same time.
/r/seduction24/09/14 08:06 PM
1

Woah dude, you are totally over thinking it here. Imagine she were a guy. You just met someone who you'll see regularly who also loves games and you've built up a bit of a connection with. Do you want to see said person again? If so, get their details and ask them to hang out! Tell them about some cool nerdy thing you have and invite them over to enjoy it with you. Nothing wrong starting as friends. Then show your sexual intent. Do you want to fuck this girl? Well that means you have to touch he…
/r/seduction11/09/14 04:46 PM
1

Make it a game? Give her hints and tell her to guess. In Canada, graduating as an engineer involves a secret ceremony, which is pretty interesting, so I like to drop that in when talking about jobs. My disclaimer is that I don't really use tinder, so I'm not sure if the style of messages is super different from other online venues (okc) or not.
/r/seduction11/09/14 04:38 PM
2

Maybe give yourself a little rule and turn approaching into a game? For example, make it a rule that you always say hi to girls in dresses, or that you have to greet anyone you pass close to who is wearing red. The goal then becomes the approach, as opposed to sex or a number or etc. You have to love the process.
/r/seduction11/09/14 04:35 PM
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Silence is the time to escalate nonverbally, whether by amping up eye contact, kino, or just a sly smile. Sometimes I just think of ridiculous stuff during awkward silences and end up bursting with laughter.
/r/seduction11/09/14 04:32 PM
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Sounds good, just keep her on the chase - keep going out with other women too. Let her bring up exclusivity (which she will eventually if she's interested enough), and then you can decide if that's what you want or not :)
/r/seduction10/09/14 08:19 PM
1

That's fair. I didn't want him to consider ALL those things at once, but I think that's a fair number of things we should be thinking about/perfecting until it becomes part of our subconscious way of talking to people.
/r/seduction10/09/14 06:20 PM
1

They were probably trying to focus on the prof. Hi is perfectly fine, but think about your delivery and how you said it. Was it with a smirk? Was it shaky or confident? How were you standing? Did you use a breaking rapport or neutral tonality? Did you go for a handshake or hug? Etc. Approaching from the back is tricky, imo.
/r/seduction10/09/14 04:48 PM
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Meh I don't agree with this. It's like saying when a girl offers an alternate date night because she's busy, she's not that interested. Which is not true. Maybe she gets a lot of guys who text her annoyingly and she wants to limit that. She had no idea what kind of texter this guy was. I once asked a girl for her number while she was working customer service, she said, "I'm working! I can't, sorry. And I don't know my number from memory" Normally I'd probably just say ok and leave but I decided …
/r/seduction09/09/14 04:21 PM
3

Even after the objections I could probably still have fucked her if I'd just slammed her against the wall and kept making out with her. Wasn't dominant enough at all. Whatever, it's too late now. No. You wimped out, and she wanted to leave. At this point you let her go. You fucked it up, and you do NOT just push women against walls and take them when they've said no. What is seduction about? About eliminating clingy-ness, about being attractive, about leaving women better than we found them. Dis…
/r/seduction26/08/14 05:01 PM
2

You're a mensch, kid. Good job. Thanks for teaching me a new word :) And yes I agree that there is a definite distinction between being nice and being a "nice guy". I just hope that for those newbies out there, they understand the difference, even if it's too late to change the terminology. Your examples are spot on.
/r/seduction13/08/14 04:36 PM
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Change your mindset when going out, from "I need to talk to women" to "I need to entertain myself and have fun". This might not be easy, but in the long term it will allow your interactions to be truly genuine and not forced. If you are out and are suddenly not having fun, just say to yourself, "how could I be having more fun right now?" If that means dancing, go dance. If that means live music, go somewhere with live music. If it means testing out cheesy pick up lines to get funny reactions, do…
/r/seduction13/08/14 03:40 PM
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Sure that's valid, but they also specifically advocate against being a "nice guy", and also make people feel like they need to change their style/persona just to be better with women. I think that guys need to just be the best version of themselves, and own it. One example of this I forgot to put into the FR was that in my room the girl looked around and saw that I had a box set of dungeons and dragons in my closet. She pointed and raised her eyebrows at me, and I was like hmm? She said dungeons…
/r/seduction13/08/14 03:26 PM
5

Thanks! Are you a lady, and do you like cats? :)
/r/seduction13/08/14 02:45 PM
11

Hey, thanks for the questions :) I'm 26, I currently teach in England and am home for the summer in Canada! I skateboard because I like to, though I'm still working on my Ollie. Wish I had started earlier!
/r/seduction13/08/14 05:29 AM
5

Well as I recall I glanced around in confusion at the beer taps for a moment, then asked for a pint of Rickard's red :) also there was a jays game on, I think.
/r/seduction13/08/14 05:26 AM
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Thanks for the feedback! Your comments are really making me think about how I should shape the next interaction, which will be helpful :) Perhaps subconsciously she was trying to qualify herself to me earlier in the night because I spoke to her friend first (since she was right beside me)? I think the biggest factor really was I went in with no expectations, and I didn't really feel like I was trying to seduce her at all during the evening, up until the kiss.
/r/seduction13/08/14 12:51 AM
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I think the thing is, 90% of the time a girl will not make the next big move. If we had just sat on that bench, that's all that would have happened. I knew that I had to be the instigator there. The other things like the party invite and stuff, sure, that was their doing. But perhaps it's because I came off as a trustworthy, interesting guy? They repeatedly said that it felt like they have known me for ages, as opposed to just meeting me a few hours before. But you're right - it should probably …
/r/seduction13/08/14 12:48 AM
1

Why not just "Hi, I'm x - I thought you were really cute and wanted to meet you." Skips the totally unnecessary excuse-generation.
/r/seduction11/08/14 09:17 PM
2

Hmm dang. Well better luck next time :) Also you might want to look up the DiCarlo escalation ladder - going from kissing right for 3rd base is much too direct most of the time, in terms of making sure the girl is comfortable with your touch. The ladder gives a nice guideline for a smooth ramp up in the level of touch.
/r/seduction04/08/14 12:50 AM
1

Awesome. I've got the summer off, so let me know when you're available to hang out! PM me :)
/r/seduction03/08/14 11:59 PM
1

Hey man, welcome. Seriously though, looking at your "amiugly" post, I was like wut. You are a good looking dude with a nice smile (though I'm a guy so take that with a grain of salt), and I can only imagine the height thing would be a big advantage out on the town. Work on your fashion and inner game first, that's the biggest hurdle really. Once you have those on lock, you'll feel ready to take on outer game, and it'll go sooooo much smoother once you have confidence in yourself and truly believ…
/r/seduction03/08/14 11:45 PM
1

Yeah, your friend just has a different viewpoint - women aren't all the same, by any means. Some will want sex on the second date, others won't. Others will say they won't and do, others will say they do but don't really and are just trying to fit in. In the end, people are just people. What happened after you tried to escalate and she didn't want to? Did you just continue making out, did you continue connecting and have a good rest of the date? Or did she make it clear that she wasn't intereste…
/r/seduction03/08/14 11:36 PM
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Honestly a dick move on your buddy's part. If I see that my friend is focused onto a girl I would help him out/be the one giving him a pep talk, and encouraging him to get back in there. Seduction is not about being selfish, it's about being the best you can be, and being better than all those other guys. Don't let this one get you down.
/r/seduction29/07/14 03:38 AM
1

Assume attraction. In this case it's pretty obvious that she's into you, plus her friend is rooting for you. "She's single again and you should talk to her," is a pretty clear message. Have a plan. Don't just be like "What do you wanna do?" when she gets to your place. It's your city, not hers, show her a good time. Show her your favourite hang out spots, take her to places you've dreamed or thought of taking dates. Kino. What's the difference between a friendship and a relationship? Touch, gene…
/r/seduction29/07/14 03:31 AM
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relevant Seinfeld: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=For8y4DwOpA
/r/seduction15/07/14 06:38 PM
3

Someone once stated a rule of thumb - for every text you send, that'll increase her chance of flaking by 10%. I've found that, while mathematically unsound, the rule fits quite well - the more texts you send, the more likely she is to flake. This is a little counter-intuitive since you'd expect her to want you to build rapport and comfort, right? The problem is, this can't be done over text. I've got it into my brain now and made it a habit to just call instead of texting. Much more straight for…
/r/seduction15/07/14 06:16 PM
1

This is true about any skill really. If we could all plug into the matrix and instantly know kung fu, life wouldn't be nearly as interesting.
/r/seduction05/07/14 05:17 PM
1

I'm wondering, do you find North American girls prudish? I find UK girls to be quite open to being approached, but I'm a Canadian living in England now. It seems like even my 17-18 year old students talk about "pulling" and stuff like it's an everyday thing, which is weird to me.
/r/seduction25/06/14 04:31 PM
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are you approaching from behind in a lot of the cases or perhaps using the wrong tonality? this seems like an inordinate number of negative responses... i know i could go say hi to 5 girls and get 5 neutral or better responses. but i guess it depends on the numbers - your 119 could be 119 bad out of 1190 good ones.
/r/seduction25/06/14 04:29 PM
1

"Could have", not "could of". Personally I think you came off as a bit negative during the initial conversation, saying "this show isn't worth driving for," and forgetting that other girl's name. They're essentially your customers, and you are the product by being the entertainment that night, it's your job to sell yourself and keep them interested - if someone stays interested in your band, that will contribute to your success as a musician, and maybe you'll see them again. You said "I don't kn…
/r/seduction24/06/14 07:46 PM
2

Like, an advance notice that you are leaving soon. "Hey I was just headed out but..." "I've gotta get back to my friends but..." etc.
/r/seduction10/06/14 07:34 PM
1

Hey, I'm wondering why you feel powerless? Your life is yours, if you want to move across to her and see where things go, go for it. I think if you're losing sleep, it's because you are anxious? Why be anxious? She likes you! She even said so. That should be reassuring. Sure you can't be with her at the current moment, but if you start taking steps towards being closer to her, your life might feel more focused and purposeful again. So things you could do: write a kick ass resume, look for jobs a…
/r/seduction10/06/14 03:01 PM
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I suppose at its core those things can be seen as "giving value", but you have to make sure it's balanced in the relationship. She should be giving just as much value back, but no one should be keeping score either.
/r/seduction09/01/14 11:01 PM
4

bwa-haha that's hilarious
/r/seduction22/10/13 10:28 PM
5

Welcome to the subreddit. Obviously you have not read the posts on being a value-giver, and leaving women better than you found them. The mentality that you have to be an ass to pick up women is not true. Don't confuse arrogance and rudeness.
/r/seduction27/08/13 10:00 PM
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Bigger + Stronger = Alpha Socially outgoing = Alpha They were probably synonymous at some stage in our evolution, so the connection people make may be subconscious.
/r/seduction27/08/13 09:46 PM
2

Then why do you want sex? If you don't know what that involves, it's where your whole body is touching someone else's whole body...
/r/seduction14/08/13 02:36 AM
6

So you want sex, but you don't even like hugging people...?
/r/seduction13/08/13 08:53 PM
6

So why do you want to learn to touch women if you don't like doing it?
/r/seduction13/08/13 08:31 PM
7

well then you meet some new people who don't know you, and hug them. then to them you'll just be that guy who hugs people regularly.
/r/seduction13/08/13 06:47 PM
3

The biggest red flag I see in this scenario is that you weren't having fun yourself. These girls are not from around there, they're looking for you to have a good time. And you took them to a place that was: loud, way too packed, and all the "games" were hogged, not to mention my guest doesn't speak the local language very well Think about what these girls are going through, and imagine yourself in the same situation. I don't know if you've done much travelling, but generally when I'm abroad and…
/r/seduction04/08/13 03:11 PM
1

You could use an analogy of wanting to get ice cream. Your intention is to get ice cream. You REALLY want some ice cream. So you decide to meander down to the ice cream shop. Unfortunately, they're closed. Here where a small child might break down and cry. "WHY ARE THEY CLOSED? WHAT DID I DO WRONG??" But you're smart enough to know it's not your fault they closed. Maybe there was a plumbing issue. Maybe a group of soccer players came through for a celebratory treat and bought them out. Maybe the…
/r/seduction19/07/13 06:50 AM
4

it's known as the united kingdom i believe.
/r/seduction10/05/13 07:49 PM
2

well I'm in Peterborough about an hour north but I'm down for a pint and some fun if people are out here ever
/r/seduction10/05/13 06:13 PM
6

you weren't holding a big mac.
/r/seduction07/05/13 07:00 PM
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clawhugging is basically draping your arm across her shoulders as you stand/walk. i think owen started calling it the claw because your hand is kind of hanging off the other side like a claw. gives off a moderate "ownership" vibe, good for slight dominance as opposed to hand around the waist or such, yet isn't very intimate so you can do it early. i haven't heard hand of god before but i imagine it's a reference to Michaelangelo's adam+god fresco where god is sticking his hand out to touch adam …
/r/seduction14/04/13 11:11 AM
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One way to do it is just go in with the mindset of making new friends - if there's a couple cool girls (including one you're interested in), get ALL of their numbers. It'll actually be easier in your head than just trying to get one of their numbers, because you can frame it like you want to get to know all of them. Also think about the people in your class - at the end of class, are you really concerned with what's going on in other people's conversations? Or are you more focused on your own pe…
/r/seduction11/02/13 04:33 PM
4

When you say "I won't stand for her seeing other men," it makes you sound really insecure and needy - as if you're worried about other men even remotely stealing her away from you. You should see yourself as: a) a catch, who the GIRL is lucky to have and you're the one fending off other women, and b) someone who has plenty of beautiful women in his life, and this girl is just one of them who you've chosen to hang out with. By saying, "I don't want you seeing other men," you're saying, "I'm an in…
/r/seduction28/01/13 06:19 PM
3

Here is the original text which was removed, for the sake of education and because fuck censorship. So I'm chilling in Chipotle last night, as I do, eating my burrito bowl. A cute HB7-8 walks in for a burrito. I'll guess she is 20. I'm not out gaming yet, but I figure this will be a good warmup. I finish my burrito and toss the bowl. By this time she's on her way out. To-go burritos are the devil. I walk out the door right behind her, tap her on the shoulder. "Excuse me..." "Oh, sorry." "Ha no, …
/r/seduction06/01/13 04:29 PM
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Yes, agreed, but waiting around just to talk to the guy seems overkill. I'll just catch him next time I'm getting a drink or whatever. Besides, "I've seen you around," doesn't really show much familiarity, in my opinion.
/r/seduction30/12/12 09:06 PM
1

Ask her about her, and tell her about what you're doing at that place. The only thing you have in common at that particular moment in time is occupying approximately the same space, so you might as well talk a bit about it. That's why situational openers are powerful - it's something you actually share with the person.
/r/seduction30/12/12 01:55 AM
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I'm a casanova, and she doesn't look like the type who is used to talking to boys. You said she's a college-aged HB 7-8. You said she was getting food alone. You said she's going to a party afterwards. I think you mistook her genuine fear for shyness, because obviously she's independent, social, and attractive enough to get hit on occasionally at that age. To be honest, it's probably due to what the other people here have said - approaching her from behind is a huge negative starting point. As f…
/r/seduction30/12/12 12:35 AM
1

Maybe add some challenges. Like a lisp or a limp. bwa-hahaha. i wish more girls looked at interaction with boys like this.
/r/seduction22/08/12 05:49 AM
1

There was even the first moment of sexual tension I've had with a girl. It really is as easy as people say it is, you let her talk and then you look into her eyes and think about giving it to her hard. And the effect to that, that was the greatest part. Her voice started to trail away in volume, it became slightly crackly. We kept up eye contact for at least 10 seconds. beautiful.
/r/seduction06/08/12 03:37 AM
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Also, depending on whether she's really busy or not (like if she's just tagging along with her parents who are shopping, of if she's shopping herself), you could transition the conversation into a coffee thing right then instead of "sometime", since ikea has an awesome caf usually with tons of cheap food and cool things to talk about. I remember plenty of boring days at ikea with the parents, so I'm sure she would have been happy for a break if that had been the case.
/r/seduction26/06/12 04:12 AM
3

You know what the best part is - she didn't even say no! :) Keep at it!
/r/seduction20/06/12 03:39 PM
13

"Hmm, I don't know, let me see." Finger along her jaw, bring her chin to you, kiss, etc. "Yep, definitely chapped."
/r/seduction03/05/12 09:01 PM
3

is she still beside you? if so, you're still doing something right - actions speak louder than words.
/r/seduction03/05/12 08:59 PM
2

She got back to me promptly. I never made any effort to see her again. Outcome independence right here, folks.
/r/seduction03/04/12 01:24 AM
15

i was actually reading this as if it was a lucid dream for a second because i was just in that subreddit.
/r/seduction24/03/12 10:52 PM
2

Thanks for the (very detailed) background info. The part that strikes me is you see yourself as a noob and a foreveralone type of person, and there are certain things in your life that you are unhappy with. While you work on your social skills, remember that pickup is not just about charming women... it's about becoming more attractive as a person, self-actualization, realizing your full potential as a person. Remember that, if you don't love yourself, how can you expect someone else to truly lo…
/r/seduction04/03/12 11:16 PM
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I'm not sure where to begin... you seem to be violating Seddit's prime directive, which is: Be a value GIVER, not a value TAKER. 1) You asked for free candy, and you don't even give a shit about the old ladies?! They're old ladies for pete's sake! If anyone deserves some love, it's them. Are you actually 21? From the way you react to people insulting you, I thought you were either a high schooler or an older man. 2) The personification of what you did wrong the whole time. "I'm a sort of leech."…
/r/seduction04/03/12 04:14 AM
9

Johnny Bravo: She has a boyfriend? Well she looks like a girl who could use two.
/r/seduction29/02/12 04:07 PM
4

"hello." remember it's not about what you say, it's how you say it.
/r/seduction18/02/12 04:53 PM
3

I've been on the odd date here and there, after which the girl would want nothing to do with me, and I generally find myself without any women in my life, not even as friends. this is the big red flag i saw in your post - why do you have no women friends? i'm not talking about social circle game and shit, i'm talking about just talking with girls, getting comfortable with them, making friends. in my mind, if you can't even talk to girls and make friends with them, how do you expect to go BEYOND …
/r/seduction18/02/12 04:48 PM
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approach more people, get yourself busy and thinking about other things. you went on one date with her, and the date wasn't great - why wasn't it great? reflect and learn from the experience. develop an abundance mindset, she's one girl in a sea of billions. delete her number.
/r/seduction18/02/12 04:26 AM
1

The thing about observers looking on in shock/awe is pretty accurate. If your friends are watching, they're going to be bragging about how you make friends with everyone as opposed to telling people you're a creepy stranger befriender.
/r/seduction18/02/12 04:13 AM
1

Wear an eye patch and ask ladies if they'd like to have a look at your wooden appendage back at your place?
/r/seduction23/01/12 11:48 PM
3

Hopefully because you were out approaching instead of sitting at home!
/r/seduction13/12/11 01:24 AM
3

My God, and arriving thirty minutes late! Might as well have started ringing the wedding bells.
/r/seduction07/12/11 05:14 AM
1

Hmm, not sure about the college analogy - if you don't act/work like you want into your dream college, you're not going to get there. Planning on going to a middle tier school when it's not your dream college is pretty much the definition of settling for second best.
/r/seduction02/10/11 06:02 AM
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Hello/welcome. Start by reading the sidebar articles, and then the next step is the important one... ok... ready? GET OFF THE COMPUTER AND GO TALK TO GIRLS post FRs, get advice, rinse/repeat :)
/r/seduction28/09/11 07:52 PM
1

Thanks. I read about the pointing to the cheek thing somewhere as a compliance test. I see what you mean about building more comfort though, I was talking to the second girl for like 30 seconds and didn't do much comfort building :P
/r/seduction09/09/11 11:23 AM
3

Directed by M. Night Shyamalan :(
/r/seduction05/09/11 07:37 PM
3

what... that would take you at least 2 dates to charge, and another 3 waiting for the ball to hit the pins.
/r/seduction12/04/11 01:11 AM
You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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