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38

At first, he adamantly denied that he had any questionable intentions Ooo, bad move. He should have thrown up his hands in defeat and said "Oh man, you caught me" with a smile. Then maybe made a fun night out of having you show him how to do it right :D
/r/seduction04/04/11 03:34 AM
23

Halflings have high charisma. Go for it.
/r/seduction07/02/11 11:29 AM
2

fuck. Time to make a new account.
/r/seduction07/02/11 01:52 AM
1

You misunderstand what exactly I take exception to.
/r/seduction07/02/11 01:51 AM
1

Yeah no it won't make or break you, certainly.
/r/seduction07/02/11 01:51 AM
0

that is pretty much why you know anyone, because they know other people and can extend your social network Not really, no. If you think about this for a second it leads to an absurd, cyclical conclusion. If the only reason you make friends is so you can make other friends, but otherwise you gain no pleasure from having them, why would you even bother making any friends? Also, I like your username.
/r/seduction05/02/11 09:53 PM
1

You misunderstand me. A strong, positive, "alpha" person does not avoid people. He is friendly to everyone regardless of anything. He doesn't give a fuck about any other guys in regards to them being an obstacle to a girl because they can't even compete. I'm not saying don't be friendly. I'm saying don't convince him you're friends just to get this girl.
/r/seduction05/02/11 09:04 PM
1

If you're just being friendly with everyone, you're still technically using the guys to get to the girl. What? How do you figure? Just be a strong, positive person. It works out. Ditch the whole subterfuge thing.
/r/seduction05/02/11 08:49 PM
3

she can never decide when asked what do you want to eat? where shall we go? Don't do this. Tell her where you're going and tell her if she wants to have some fun tonight she'll be joining you. But then the constant daily SMS messages about wanting to be with me, do this, do that together etc suggest she does does have feelings and she does want to meet. Start responding less. Every day, roll a d4 and that's how many outgoing texts/chat messages you're allowed to send her that day (never send mor…
/r/seduction05/02/11 08:29 PM
18

You know how you get over your fear of acting like an idiot around other people? You act like an idiot around other people and see that nothing bad happens. Try it. Give it a shot. You only live once. Unless you're me. I live like three times.
/r/seduction05/02/11 05:53 PM
0

I'm sure OP can decide if it's for him or not.
/r/seduction05/02/11 05:16 PM
7

But you're not friends with him. Your entire relationship with the guy is based on pretext. He may think you're friends with him, but the fact remains that you used him whether he ever finds out or not.
/r/seduction05/02/11 05:06 PM
14

Man this just seems really dirty to me. I'm all for being friendly with everyone, but to become friends with someone with the sole purpose of not only getting a girl but to disarm him when you try - it seems a level up from "using." If you're comfortable with that, more power to you, but I wouldn't do it unless I knew the kid had it coming.
/r/seduction05/02/11 04:53 PM
2

He's pretty damn good at the jitterbug.
/r/seduction05/02/11 09:30 AM
1

What happened?
/r/seduction05/02/11 06:19 AM
8

1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, bonus No matter how you choose to dance, you're going to look simultaneously awesome and ridiculous. Just go with it and don't give a fuck.
/r/seduction05/02/11 04:18 AM
3

No. Stop it. Go meet ten new people. Right now.
/r/seduction05/02/11 02:37 AM
2

No he doesn't know what he's talking about. Have fun dancing, don't give a fuck what other people think, and I guarantee people will think highly of you. It's a bit ironic.
/r/seduction05/02/11 02:32 AM
9

What?! I can't hear you!
/r/seduction05/02/11 02:29 AM
7

Alright where to start... What you have become is physically attractive. You have not become any better at pickup. In my mind there are two large parts to pickup: getting a girl who doesn't know you to prefer your presence over your absence getting a girl who prefers your presence to want you The first is generally covered by social proof before your approach, your approach/opener, and the initial demonstration of value. The second is covered mainly by more DHV and kino. You say you don't really…
/r/seduction05/02/11 02:21 AM
1

Like this. ... No I'm kidding. If you have any acne or something, though, you need to grab some proactive or see a dermatologist and get that shit dealt with.
/r/seduction05/02/11 01:27 AM
5

Are you legitimately interested in X? Your answer to this question is the same as your answer to "Should I ask about X?"
/r/seduction04/02/11 11:47 PM
1

:P
/r/seduction04/02/11 10:27 PM
1

You're taking me too literally. When I say "not give a fuck" I also imply "about social dynamics, looking cool, saving face, or trying to impress girls, in particular" in favor of having a good time. Obviously you care about things. You have interests. You're interesting. In fact, you are downright passionate about a few very goddamn cool things. This is attractive.
/r/seduction04/02/11 10:27 PM
1

The less you are able to otherwise build attraction, the more looks become important. Even still, it's not the end-all-be-all.
/r/seduction04/02/11 09:40 PM
2

I was thinking more "I don't give a fuck; I'm here to have fun" energy.
/r/seduction04/02/11 08:47 PM
1

Work? Who said anything about working?
/r/seduction04/02/11 08:45 PM
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It hasn't. What you do by asking straight up is you avoid one-on-one personality evaluation beyond "this guy is very confident and forward." You give them nothing else to work with. No other personal reason to be attracted to you or not. What this means is that, since a girl needs to be attracted to you (or desperate) to want to sleep with you, you need to establish attraction elsewhere preemptively or very quickly. Three things are important if you're going to use a bombshell opener like this: …
/r/seduction04/02/11 08:17 PM
1

I tend to try to bang them on the second date. I don't tend to try for that, but date two is usually when it feels right to lay on the overtly sexual kino that winds up leading to sex. I'd say that's a pretty good, though not cut-in-stone, rule of thumb.
/r/seduction04/02/11 08:05 PM
1

Or you really could just plan one thing and leave time to spare, and then see where the hell you wind up going.
/r/seduction04/02/11 08:03 PM
5

While you're talking to a girl, slip in at least three pokemon puns. First one must be no more than two minutes into the conversation. Edit: oh and you can't tell her you're going to, or acknowledge it afterward. "I don't know what you're talking about" should be said at least once.
/r/seduction04/02/11 07:57 PM
9

Flawless.
/r/seduction04/02/11 07:37 PM
1

It's just so absurd when it winds up working haha
/r/seduction04/02/11 07:36 PM
2

I read a little of the manga a while back, and... wait. I don't have to spell it out for you. Here. This is a manga. About a guy who plays eroge. Using eroge techniques to seduce women. There's a new girl every issue. He always gets the girl. This is written by a guy who would write a manga about a kid who plays eroge seducing a bunch of women with eroge techniques. ... Do you really think the kid is doing it right?
/r/seduction04/02/11 07:16 PM
16

Next time you see her, have two HB9s on your arm.
/r/seduction04/02/11 07:11 PM
4

No I meant to "I'm a creep." Thinking about it more, though, she could be a radiohead fan.
/r/seduction04/02/11 06:57 PM
3

<greeting /> for compatibility
/r/seduction04/02/11 06:44 PM
7

Challenge accepted.
/r/seduction04/02/11 06:43 PM
1

Why bother thinking about it when you can find someone who doesn't spring other people on you regardless of the reason?
/r/seduction04/02/11 06:41 PM
2

assuming you had a chance No. It's not about whether you have a chance. It's about whether the girl has a chance with you.
/r/seduction04/02/11 06:15 PM
2

His post was constructive. Nowhere did he belittle you. If you weren't willing to hear what people had to say, don't ask for opinions.
/r/seduction04/02/11 06:13 PM
5

I'm thinking joke post?
/r/seduction04/02/11 06:08 PM
2

Show her it upset you? I don't think so.
/r/seduction24/01/11 06:03 AM
6

Yeah no, I'm not really interested.
/r/seduction09/01/11 09:28 AM
1

Good point
/r/seduction09/01/11 08:42 AM
16

A bit too humorless, if you ask me.
/r/seduction08/01/11 02:20 AM
1

There's no way I could say that without sounding like a fucking weirdo. That's the point. Do it anyway.
/r/seduction07/01/11 08:27 AM
2

Man it's painful to see you say you're sleeping on the couch.
/r/seduction07/01/11 08:18 AM
1

this one, right?
/r/seduction04/01/11 11:54 AM
1

Right, now... tell me some words that will turn a girl on in isolation.
/r/seduction03/01/11 11:51 AM
1

Say something ridiculous.
/r/seduction03/01/11 11:22 AM
1

I found someone I legitimately think is better.
/r/seduction24/12/10 05:33 PM
1

I do. Only when I'm being a dick. ...should tell you something :P
/r/seduction24/12/10 04:19 PM
1

Don't just repost the same thread when you get one downvote.
/r/seduction24/12/10 04:04 PM
1

You only got one downvote. No need to delete your whole post. I think you have some things to work on regarding confidence/self esteem. Your self image goes a long way toward how other people see you. I'd stick around a bit, lurk, do some reading. Maybe you'll pick up some important lessons about confidence and a "fake it 'til you make it" attitude.
/r/seduction24/12/10 03:59 PM
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I'm a big fan of LesbianPUA and ArMcK. I'm sure there are others, but they're the names that come to mind at the moment.
/r/seduction24/12/10 03:51 PM
1

It's the only advice. Seduction is showing someone you're interesting enough to sleep with/get to know better. If you're not actually interesting, you're lying. And they'll figure it out. Join some clubs, listen to world music, learn to salsa, eat a bhut jolokia just because you can. I dunno. Be an interesting person.
/r/seduction24/12/10 02:46 PM
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You've easily become my favorite poster over the past month or so.
/r/seduction24/12/10 01:32 PM
1

nah it's still there.
/r/seduction24/12/10 01:04 PM
2

Kino.
/r/seduction24/12/10 12:55 PM
1

Be interesting.
/r/seduction24/12/10 12:46 PM
7

You're a fucking genius. Edit: this wasn't sarcasm, I'm actually going to use this.
/r/seduction24/12/10 12:14 PM
10

"Hey I've got to go; give me your number." "Why?" "Well it'd be a shame if you never got to see me again." Shit like that. Less words are greater than more words. Edit: dialog > narration
/r/seduction24/12/10 12:05 PM
1

I have a friend who just picked up the habit of calling people "brother." Are you him?
/r/seduction24/12/10 12:00 PM
2

You don't. Winning them all is not the goal or point of pickup. When it happens, notice it and move on.
/r/seduction24/12/10 11:56 AM
5

"I won't kill anyone this year." ...it'll totally work.
/r/seduction15/12/10 08:24 AM
1

A relationship is what you make it. I'm personally a fan of them.
/r/seduction14/12/10 04:59 AM
5

Kino escalation. Make it seem like it's not a big deal. You don't give a shit that you're touching her arm, then her hip, then the back of her neck, but you are anyway.
/r/seduction13/12/10 12:45 PM
1

Befriend your enemies. Always come from a position of less desperation than anyone around you. You need nothing, you only provide. That being said, no one is alpha all the time.
/r/seduction13/12/10 12:37 PM
1

Thanks :D
/r/seduction07/12/10 01:31 PM
1

Still working on it. I'll let you know how it goes.
/r/seduction07/12/10 01:22 PM
2

I've never heard it called that before, but I know first hand what you're talking about. It's pretty ridiculous to be honest, but it's true.
/r/seduction07/12/10 01:01 PM
6

I've been active, but I'm working on developing an LTR right now, so I'm going to be armchairing it for (hopefully) a while.
/r/seduction05/12/10 05:04 AM
1

How was it?
/r/seduction04/12/10 11:59 AM
2

You need to look at the evidence in front of you and deduce that you're both attractive and worth two shits (at least). Also listen to ArMcK.
/r/seduction04/12/10 11:31 AM
3

I don't know why I like this post (but I do)
/r/seduction03/12/10 06:17 PM
3

No he pretty much covered what I'd have said.
/r/seduction03/12/10 02:56 PM
1

That list at the end? Most of that was in my post to some degree. It's great advice. The other stuff is just "standards." Which, yes, if you only have access to three girls in your entire life and you have to pick the most recent (not even the best) you're going to have low standards. Standards should come with the PUA territory.
/r/seduction03/12/10 02:50 PM
2

Oh I'm a huge fan of seddit. I just saw a lot of posts yesterday and this morning that made me cringe. That's not to say seddit the way it's supposed to be (in my opinion, I suppose) makes me cringe.
/r/seduction02/12/10 10:34 PM
1

If you want me to clarify something just ask. I just went with convention.
/r/seduction02/12/10 10:34 PM
2

On a more serious note, I've read the article you linked, and entitlement on either side destroys relationships. Acknowledging that and disapproving of the women who choose to feel entitled because they have gotten into an LTR is not objectifying. Certainly expecting cooperation isn't an objectification.
/r/seduction02/12/10 08:42 PM
1

But I like sensationalism :<
/r/seduction02/12/10 08:39 PM
3

Ha. I might not have explained myself particularly well. I haven't slept since Tuesday and I might have some crazy ideas I won't agree with when I'm fully rested. Of course I only say that because I've seen you post before and I tend to agree with what you say. If you have an objection it's bound to be legitimate. Anyway would you care to be specific?
/r/seduction02/12/10 07:45 PM
1

It really depends on what it says. More so than just flagging it as important or not.
/r/seduction02/12/10 12:22 PM
8

I personally believe LTR is a completely different game than pickup. In pickup you don't have any obligations or responsibilities. If you find yourself in a situation you don't like, you can eject. If you make a mistake, you never have to see the people around you ever again. Most of all, in pickup, you don't have a reason to care about your marks yet. Pickup is meant to give us all better and more opportunities to determine if people are worth caring about. When you approach a person for the fi…
/r/seduction02/12/10 12:01 PM
3

I have found I am better at being attractive than I am at engaging a reader, unfortunately.
/r/seduction02/12/10 10:41 AM
1

You don't want to be too flexible however. You're a busy (and interesting) man, after all.
/r/seduction12/11/10 09:35 AM
1

Find something interesting to do. Then text her and tell her you're about to be doing that thing. Ask her if she'd like to join you.
/r/seduction07/11/10 12:51 PM
5

No one is flaming anyone. You're picking a fight where there is none. If you're not going to tell us what you find wrong with our philosophy, so we can address your misconceptions, then don't tell us you find something wrong in the first place. It's just as insulting, if not worse, because you're also being condescending. What you're saying is "I can address your points but it's not like you'll be able to respond in a way I haven't considered, so I don't even need to say it." What are you even t…
/r/seduction06/11/10 12:53 PM
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What are you even talking about? Address his post instead of ridiculing him. What about his post makes this If your opinions are shared by everyone here, then my worst fears about seddit are true. even remotely relevant? Also you have totally prejudged the community, considering you asked loaded questions. Calling you out on that doesn't mean anyone's prejudging you. We're just judging you. Based on your actions. Edit: besides, he went out of his way to answer your loaded questions civilly. Ther…
/r/seduction06/11/10 12:37 PM
1

A little bit of knowledge is a dangerous thing :\ That guy needs to either learn more or learn less.
/r/seduction03/11/10 10:17 PM
1

Do you have examples?
/r/seduction03/11/10 09:51 PM
1

Fair. I don't think the attitude of the people you specifically described is a healthy one either. However, I'd like to think that most of the people on seddit aren't like that anyway. At least most of the people I've run into are legitimately here to better themselves, this thread notwithstanding.
/r/seduction03/11/10 09:45 PM
29

I really, really want to have hatesex.
/r/seduction03/11/10 07:26 PM
5

Not all of what they're saying is problematic, and there's no need to be so reactionary. A relationship is about give and take. You can be nice without supplicating. Why don't you go over specific objections and we can address them rationally, instead of pointing and laughing? Certainly a bit of push is part of push-pull.
/r/seduction03/11/10 11:34 AM
1

Are you sure? Often it's counter-intuitive. However I would agree with you that a lot of the posts in this thread in particular are kind of... resentful? I expect better from seddit.
/r/seduction03/11/10 11:31 AM
3

Why do you need to be right? It's just a fun little game.
/r/seduction02/11/10 10:23 PM
1

And good networking is a lot like good pickup.
/r/seduction02/11/10 08:37 PM
3

Hey there; I hear you're pretty influential in the [insert what you do here] industry. I'm a big fan of [insert work you've done here]. You wanna grab some coffee or a sandwich sometime? Maybe we can add each other on facebook.
/r/seduction02/11/10 09:59 AM
2

You can only really have a preference when you can perceive a difference. If you can tell, then you've already answered your question. If you can't tell, then so what? There's no difference. It's totally fine for you to have a preference. I don't like plastic surgery (or even makeup) either. But it's because it tends to do specific things to a girl's appearance or feel that I don't like, and I can identify those things. If I can't tell, I don't care. And if there's a girl who isn't wearing makeu…
/r/seduction02/11/10 05:23 AM
1

You misunderstand a lot. First of all, you don't DHV by "telling DHV stories." You probably have come off as an arrogant braggart, unfortunately. Also, tell me what you consider a shit-test in the context of what happened, because I'm pretty sure we're not on the same page. The more vague your questions, the more vague our answers.
/r/seduction02/11/10 04:48 AM
1

because it makes me as though I am touching something fake and unpolished Then apparently you know how to tell. Why are you asking us?
/r/seduction02/11/10 04:43 AM
1

I was alpha, social, friendly, interested in what she had to say, took care of the group, kinokinokino, confident, persistent, and easy going. I'm not saying that would work all the time every time. It wouldn't spark lust in an HB9. I think you might be surprised. That sounds exactly like what would spark lust in an HB9. The negs are just to get her to stick around. I'd say that the push-pull came from the fact that you were paying attention to her more than GG (push), but she also wasn't the ob…
/r/seduction02/11/10 04:15 AM
1

I agree with you, and I think you misunderstood what I was trying to say.
/r/seduction30/10/10 07:38 PM
1

I'd say practicing acting disinterested in girls in whom you're actually interested teaches you how to act disinterested in girls in whom you're actually interested.
/r/seduction30/10/10 02:57 AM
2

I wasn't calling you out; no need to get defensive. Though you are acting a bit more human ;)
/r/seduction29/10/10 10:29 PM
2

You're approaching this the wrong way. First of all, you just agreed with me that you didn't have an opportunity to take in the first place. Thus that can't be the point of your FR. Second, the point of an FR is to get feedback on your game. In the event you're trying to use your FR to teach others, the lesson should at least be apparent in what happened, and you should go into a lot more detail about exactly what went wrong, what went right, what the signals were, what you said, what she said, …
/r/seduction29/10/10 10:07 PM
6

I honestly think you may be misleading yourself. If a girl is into you during class and you didn't do something creepy in the mean time, there's no reason she wouldn't still be into you after class. It's very possible she wouldn't have given you her number during your 'window' either. To be fair, I wasn't there, so this is just speculation. Nevertheless, you are making a huge assumption.
/r/seduction29/10/10 09:32 PM
1

I can't place it exactly but your posts seem very robotic. Are you a robot?
/r/seduction29/10/10 09:29 PM
1

That's true. But at least you set up boundaries.
/r/seduction29/10/10 09:13 PM
1

My problem with this article is it doesn't explain why about anything. It enumerates the concepts, but it doesn't explore them. The writing seems simplistic and juvenile. For instance: Deadly Sin #2: Neediness Our desire for acceptance is often the root cause for our needy behavior around members of the opposite sex. [citation needed] When we don’t accrue enough experience with members of the opposite sex, we tend to mistake neediness for love. [citation needed]. Personally, I like being needed …
/r/seduction29/10/10 08:42 PM
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It's really easy to pick up girls you're not into. Really easy. The fact that you're not into them makes you more attractive. So at this point, going further with this girl won't serve as practice for picking up girls you are attracted to, just girls you aren't. Which doesn't sound like what you want. I'd say be friends with her. Or if she doesn't want to be, whatever.
/r/seduction29/10/10 08:28 PM
3

This is another piece of well written literature that reaffirms the imperative that I improve at telling stories. I'm currently pretty bad at it. Anyone have a story-telling guide?
/r/seduction28/10/10 11:58 PM
1

Cook, by the way.
/r/seduction28/10/10 11:39 PM
1

A good poker player knows when to fold.
/r/seduction28/10/10 11:17 AM
1

Be an interesting person. Make "a ho" explicitly say "yes" by virtue of the fact that you're that desirable. Be awesome and let the attention come to you.
/r/seduction28/10/10 06:56 AM
1

I tend to over-qualify myself Fix this first.
/r/seduction27/10/10 08:32 PM
1

I've always seen a very fine line between Gunwitch and creepy. In my experience, you want a girl to be comfortable with you before you begin to sexualize yourself outright. Initial stages of kino are about building comfort, not necessarily sexualization. Also "make a ho say no" is outright contrary to my philosophy.
/r/seduction27/10/10 08:29 PM
1

I was totally going to nab the "best" reply early but you beat me to it. I can't really say it better than that.
/r/seduction27/10/10 08:24 PM
1

Heh, I feel like being a "sexy" vampire just means dressing well, since fake fangs are awkward and fake blood is tacky. Just dress in a dark fitted suit and when people ask what you are say you're a vampire.
/r/seduction27/10/10 08:21 PM
2

Two other options: cop and doctor. The Dr. one is great for a last minute costume if you need to throw something together - just find a friend who works in a hospital and get some scrubs. Maybe a few mafia roleblockers as well.
/r/seduction27/10/10 08:18 PM
40

No you're right. The seduction community has changed since The Game, and it's because we all read it. The message was clear, and we understood it just as well as you. That's why most of us here don't like canned game or NLP. It's also why the best advice we give is "be an interesting person." Everything else is just tools to show people how interesting you are, in case you're having trouble. The one thing I've most noticed about this community is that it's mostly about getting people's confidenc…
/r/seduction27/10/10 08:07 PM
2

Ahah going as mystery would be great.
/r/seduction27/10/10 08:00 PM
3

You're thinking about it too much. When would you like to see her?
/r/seduction22/10/10 08:39 PM
3

Accept and kino.
/r/seduction21/10/10 05:33 AM
4

Advanced Pull two HBs home from a club for a threesome. This makes me laugh every time.
/r/seduction18/10/10 04:54 AM
1

You don't need all of them, to be honest. Particularly money.
/r/seduction18/10/10 04:31 AM
8

The only only thing keeping an ugly man from being attractive is grooming and clothing. Head to /r/malefashionadvice
/r/seduction16/10/10 10:54 PM
1

Even still, if you feel compelled it's a problem. It should be a gesture of good faith, not a feeling of obligation.
/r/seduction16/10/10 02:15 AM
1

It's all part and parcel. If you don't like who you are and you would rather be someone else, either change yourself or understand that you don't have the kind of confidence it takes to get others to like you. I'm not sure why you're bringing up "small speech issues." That has nothing to do with this.
/r/seduction15/10/10 07:39 AM
0

This kind of thinking is contrary to your goals. You should want to mirror only yourself, because you're infinitely more awesome than Hank or what-have-you.
/r/seduction15/10/10 07:06 AM
3

No, you definitely need to move onto someone else. If she contacts you back that's great, but if you pursue her it's going to be a game of cat and mouse. You want to move on. Also I'm thinking that she "didn't want to" at any given time not because she didn't actually want to, but possibly because of how you went about it. But I'm not sure because I wasn't there and you haven't described it in much detail.
/r/seduction15/10/10 04:28 AM
3

I'm thinking you didn't escalate quickly enough. And I've said before, if a girl voluntarily goes to your place to be alone with you, she wants you to make a move. Sexually. If you don't, she either regrets giving you the opportunity (if she's the type to let ASD kick in) or she doesn't want to bother wasting her time with someone who isn't going to take charge (if she's more sex positive).
/r/seduction15/10/10 04:01 AM
3

Force yourself to pay attention, mostly. Pretend something might kill you at any moment, I don't know.
/r/seduction15/10/10 02:41 AM
1

Well if you actually fuck up and do something horrible, sure, apologize. But any time you apologize you establish that whatever your behavior was, it was unacceptable, and the other person is entitled to that apology. If the apology is just a method of appeasement, you're establishing horrible, horrible precedent.
/r/seduction14/10/10 11:42 PM
4

What we're telling you is not that you shouldn't think highly of her, but rather that, no matter how highly you think of her, you ought to think more highly of yourself. Besides, there are more girls out there like her, and there are better girls out there than her. Law of probability.
/r/seduction14/10/10 06:36 AM
2

Don't apologize, jesus christ.
/r/seduction14/10/10 04:54 AM
0

While I knew this all intuitively, from observation over the years, having it spelled out in plain terms was a serious downer. Anyway I hope I can find a "wife" in the BDSM community maybe eventually. Subs are awesome. But maybe it doesn't work that way.
/r/seduction13/10/10 03:21 PM
2

AMOGs are a bad thing. You don't want to be an AMOG. You just want to be a better PUA, and able to dispel the AMOGs.
/r/seduction13/10/10 03:14 PM
6

If your girlfriend/you are doing it right, you don't have to actively do anything and she'll friend zone them by herself. At least this has been my experience with LTRs worth keeping.
/r/seduction13/10/10 08:51 AM
6

Don't. It establishes a precedent early on that you're not interesting enough to get her attention without buying her.
/r/seduction13/10/10 08:27 AM
3

It sounds like you could have gotten that girl too.
/r/seduction13/10/10 06:10 AM
1

It's truly a art.
/r/seduction13/10/10 05:55 AM
1

Haha aright I'll admit it's funny, knowing you're not serious.
/r/seduction13/10/10 05:14 AM
2

Nice trolling, again.
/r/seduction13/10/10 04:58 AM
6

I've never even heard of this. Are you supposed to like make a jock strap out of spent brass or something?
/r/seduction13/10/10 02:48 AM
2

I think I just have bad luck with submissions. On my main account I tend to get downvoted abnormally highly for everything that isn't a comment as well, even if it's incredibly relevant. Generally I just avoid submitting links or self posts, because I'm apparently doing something wrong. I still feel like making FRs though, so whatever. I'm over it.
/r/seduction13/10/10 02:46 AM
-3

I'm not a fan of canned game.
/r/seduction13/10/10 12:34 AM
1

ANIME LIED TO ME?!
/r/seduction12/10/10 11:39 PM
2

If you hang out here for a bit, you'll notice, as someone else said in this thread, that being an "aloof fuck" is an advantage, as long as you're also an interesting person and combine it with kino.
/r/seduction12/10/10 10:59 PM
5

You're killing your game. Everything else is you justifying it. You're not "doomed" because of a "personality type." All the advice we give anyone in here applies to you just the same. That being said, I like myers-briggs.
/r/seduction12/10/10 10:41 PM
5

Eh, that's dumb. I don't understand why she'd still be with him. If he doesn't care about her enough to not cheat on her, then he probably doesn't care that she's cheating. They might as well just be fuckbuddies or something.
/r/seduction12/10/10 01:39 AM
8

Ask her to go bowling with you. If she says "oh I'm good at bowling" ask her to go mini golfing instead.
/r/seduction12/10/10 01:30 AM
6

I feel bad for her boyfriend :(
/r/seduction12/10/10 01:20 AM
18

No. Edit: I'm not sure why I'm getting downvotes for this one. Usually concision goes over pretty well. To explain more thoroughly, the entire premise of this community is that you're supposed to approach girls in a non-creepy way. And it works. If there wasn't a way to approach girls that wasn't creepy, none of us would see any success. I forget who said it or how often, but I've seen people post in seddit a few times that "an action is only as creepy as the girl perceives it to be." There is n…
/r/seduction12/10/10 12:36 AM
6

Combine it with kino. Pinch her stomach or something and say "yeah you've got some flab." Make sure you make the real-life equivalent of the :3 face or it'll be insulting. Either that or what aepr88 said.
/r/seduction12/10/10 12:02 AM
4

Touch her leg while you're shifting.
/r/seduction11/10/10 11:20 PM
1

She did a nice job with that. She's probably on Seddit right now. Yeah it really was a pretty expert maneuver. I think I'll do that stalker role thing, by the way. It sounds like a good way to tease her.
/r/seduction11/10/10 09:24 PM
3

That'd be hilarious. It probably toes the try-hard line too much though.
/r/seduction11/10/10 08:59 PM
9

Tease her. Or just walk away; she looks like a bitch from the picture.
/r/seduction11/10/10 07:49 PM
9

I'd say the cross-section of the girls at a frat party yields less girlfriend material than, say, the cross-section of a random selection of the population as a whole. Is it impossible to find a good girlfriend at a frat party? No. But I wouldn't bet on it. Work on your day game.
/r/seduction11/10/10 06:22 PM
8

If you're trying to pick up the kind of chicks who will sleep with you the same night, you kind of have to be willing to sleep with them. It's okay if you want to lose your virginity to someone special, but if that's the case, you have to stop trying to pick up girls at frat parties.
/r/seduction11/10/10 06:15 PM
18

Seems like you've got it under control. There's no reason for you to pressure her at this point. You respect her boundaries, and if she's what you're looking for, that's great. As long as you guys keep kissing and you don't start telling each other about other people you've seen/are seeing, you're probably not going to be friend zoned at this point. Keep escalating, slowly. Get her comfortable with your touch, eventually everywhere on her body. The goal is to make her equate you/your embrace wit…
/r/seduction11/10/10 06:07 PM
10

For this to work, you have to be the type of person to talk to people you don't want to fuck, by the way.
/r/seduction11/10/10 05:41 PM
2

You look fine. (Your old pic does not; be glad you changed whatever you changed.)
/r/seduction11/10/10 05:40 PM
1

You're now willing to just walk away. Fucking it up would accomplish the same thing. I'd say go for it, all or nothing. You have nothing more to lose by going for it and failing than you would lose by walking away. But you have to make a move now or bust.
/r/seduction11/10/10 05:33 PM
1

The locator does suck. I think we need an external database with a pin map or something.
/r/seduction11/10/10 05:25 PM
1

It's not really different from the standard advice I'd give. Make sure you DHV without qualifying, escalate kino no matter what. Keep frame and you'll do fine. If it doesn't work, it doesn't work. You can't win them all.
/r/seduction08/10/10 09:33 PM
1

American Psycho
/r/seduction08/10/10 04:41 PM
1

Total bunk.
/r/seduction08/10/10 05:21 AM
1

I just watched this movie for the first time last weekend. I didn't understand it immediately but now that it's had time to sink in... goddamn.
/r/seduction08/10/10 04:37 AM
4

More like cockology, amirite?
/r/seduction08/10/10 04:11 AM
1

No one does or says anything while drunk that they weren't thinking about while sober.
/r/seduction08/10/10 03:43 AM
1

Congrats.
/r/seduction07/10/10 11:55 PM
3

I don't think anything you did after she said "I regret not fucking you that night" made her like you any more. Congratulations, you successfully didn't fuck it up. But yeah, I'd trace your success back to how you handled "that night" and the fact that you didn't chase after her. Or really have contact with her at all. You became a fond memory, and you never gave her any material to doubt that after the fact.
/r/seduction07/10/10 09:19 PM
1

So how'd it go? Did she flake? Edit: In retrospect I realize I should probably point out that I'm not being patronizing; I'm legitimately curious. Conducting a study of sorts.
/r/seduction07/10/10 08:56 PM
2

<3
/r/seduction07/10/10 07:52 PM
1

Good man.
/r/seduction07/10/10 07:52 PM
32

You aren't grasping the point of the community. You have preconceptions about how we see women, possibly from reading The Game and noticing the many guys in the story who practically destroyed their lives with pickup. What you fail to realize is we've all read it too, and we know that's a road to avoid. You see, it's not about the canned openers and the IOIs and the negs. It's about becoming that confident person you're talking about. How do you propose a social outcast just suddenly become conf…
/r/seduction07/10/10 05:17 AM
4

Fallacy. Popular does not equal good. However I will admit that the Beatles are better, I just like the Stones more.
/r/seduction07/10/10 03:38 AM
1

Heh, I've been using this to my advantage lately. Prior to this year I'd never keep anyone's gaze for fear of them noticing me "staring." Now when I pass anyone - guy or girl - I make eye contact and hold it, though naturally, as I pass. People tend to look down. Even really big guys who could clearly kick my ass. So yeah it's not the best pickup technique, but it's certainly done wonders for my confidence and presence in general.
/r/seduction07/10/10 03:06 AM
3

So... Beatles or Stones?
/r/seduction07/10/10 02:54 AM
1

Good point. It's certainly dickish.
/r/seduction07/10/10 02:49 AM
1

Haha yeah that may not work.
/r/seduction06/10/10 05:14 PM
3

That's a hilarious prank. I wouldn't use it to dispel AMOGs though. Edit: I just tried it on my roommate. He just slid the glass off his thumbs easily :(
/r/seduction06/10/10 05:09 PM
2

You have friends, yes? Next time you run into a friend, pay attention to how the conversation starts.
/r/seduction06/10/10 05:07 PM
7

I like your goggles No you don't, you're attracted to me. -Mystery
/r/seduction06/10/10 05:05 PM
2

You know why alcohol helps? The main reason? Because it makes everyone comfortable with kino. Get comfortable with kino.
/r/seduction06/10/10 05:02 PM
1

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teetotalism
/r/seduction06/10/10 05:01 PM
2

so i'd have to do some weird head moving to go in for a kiss You're justifying. This is completely irrelevant and you ought to know it. and just a second ago i texted her and said we should hang out again tonight. she said sure. Let me know if she winds up flaking.
/r/seduction06/10/10 04:35 PM
3

You're choosing to interpret what I said the wrong way.
/r/seduction06/10/10 12:53 PM
1

hahahaha that's amazing.
/r/seduction06/10/10 06:14 AM
1

The problem is DHV is different for girls than it is for guys. Being sought after isn't a DHV fo girls because it's expected. Your DHV in this case is having interesting things going on with your life. Having skills. Knowing a lot about the things he likes, in particular. For me, the most high value girls are the ones who are interested in the things I like, legitimately. If they are just trying to get my attention it'll show because they will eventually stop pretending to be interested. Teach h…
/r/seduction06/10/10 05:04 AM
1

Have you done a lot of reading on pickup techniques? Do you know what DHV (demonstating higher value) means? Because that's the best way to get someone legitimately interested in you as a person, as opposed to just looking for sex.
/r/seduction06/10/10 04:27 AM
1

Alright maybe I jumped to conclusions about the dynamic between you and he. I apologize if that's the case.
/r/seduction06/10/10 04:26 AM
1

Also to respond to your initial question: Why do you want to keep his interest? Why don't you want him to ask you out right now? I don't understand why you need to string him along. If he asked you to be his girlfriend right now would you then be open to sleeping with him? Or would you just try to "keep his interest" for a while?
/r/seduction06/10/10 03:27 AM
1

Alright there are subtleties here that I'm not getting across. You can decide not to sleep with him until you're in a relationship, that's fine. Of course for me the line has never been clear in any cases between relationship and not-relationship. It's kind of a hazy line. I'd say that if you decide this, though, it ought to be clear to him so he can make that decision. It's when you do things like this that it gets rocky: He said we can “do other things” and I said “what, like cuddle?” You obvi…
/r/seduction06/10/10 03:21 AM
13

You need to keep treating her like she's not a sure thing. Keep her interested, keep her hot. Make sex with you something that's not a sure thing as well - something she has to work for. If you feel like you can be a lazy slob and still keep her, you will be a lazy slob. Don't give yourself the slack.
/r/seduction06/10/10 03:05 AM
1

Why is this any harder than asking her anywhere else? Just tell her you're hanging out with her and doing something dumb.
/r/seduction06/10/10 03:03 AM
1

Ah. Seduction won't help you with that. You need to be an interesting person. If you trick him into liking you then he doesn't actually like you. But I guarantee if you're unwilling to sleep with him, he will decide to move on. If he hasn't already. It's not because he's shallow, it's because you sound like you're being difficult. You don't have to sleep with him, but you can't be upset when he decides you're not what he's looking for.
/r/seduction06/10/10 03:00 AM
1

Ask her to go do something fun and lame. Like bowling, mini golf, ice skating. Something that shows that you're confident and you don't really give a fuck. Also make sure you don't pick something either of you are good at.
/r/seduction06/10/10 02:47 AM
1

Hold on let me get this straight. You're asking how to get this guy interested in sleeping with you so you can not sleep with him? I know how to help you, but I won't.
/r/seduction06/10/10 02:42 AM
16

I've seen a few threads like this. I will repeat that any time a girl is intentionally alone at your place with you she wants you to make a move on her. If you don't, she begins to second guess herself after the fact and ASD kicks in. You probably won't get another shot. You should probably move on.
/r/seduction06/10/10 02:36 AM
6

Absolutely not.
/r/seduction06/10/10 02:33 AM
1

He means read the articles now, and remember them for later. You're not supposed to ignore her while you're with her. Well, not for that at least.
/r/seduction06/10/10 02:29 AM
7

IOIs are never definitive. They are indicators of interest, not signals of interest. Also as you become more confident, it becomes an increasingly effective strategy to treat everything as an IOI.
/r/seduction05/10/10 10:25 AM
3

You kind of just need to not give a fuck.
/r/seduction05/10/10 06:58 AM
1

It comes with the confidence. Learn pickup and you learn the swagger.
/r/seduction03/10/10 06:37 AM
1

I'm not refuting that. What I'm saying is if you do feel like you've found someone to actually care about, and she happens to break your trust, it's going to fucking suck, regardless of how many other women are out there. Hell a male friend violating your trust sucks. It's just you don't trust him not to cheat on you. Anyway, yes, in theory you should move on and not care, but when you actually care about the other person, betrayal hurts. I, for one, wouldn't put myself in a position to be betra…
/r/seduction03/10/10 04:53 AM
1

Edit: My roommate told me that someone who cares about you can "need space" in the event that you're smothering her. I admit I assumed you weren't.
/r/seduction03/10/10 12:44 AM
1

If you're just looking for a fling, sure. Sometimes I'm looking for an emotional connection, caring, love, idk. Sure there are other women, but in a LTR I like being able to trust my partner a little bit.
/r/seduction03/10/10 12:42 AM
1

Yeah I think she's wrestling with her ASD.
/r/seduction03/10/10 12:38 AM
1

That's not what I'm saying. I'm not saying "move on because you'll have to wait longer." I'm saying "move on because you already fucking blew it." If you don't believe me that's on you, but that's my opinion. You've fallen into the friend zone. You don't get out by waiting. You don't really get out at all. There are other girls out there. Probably at least a third of them are better, more fun, and sexier than your oneitis, too. Start over with a clean slate and try again. Even if it doesn't work…
/r/seduction02/10/10 12:12 PM
4

Break up now. Someone who cares about you doesn't need "space." If you're thinking about the logistics of why breaking up is a good/bad idea without emotion being a significant factor, the relationship is already poisoned. Unless you have a fetish for metaphorical train wrecks. Then by all means, continue. Also your ex-girlfriend's therapist is a hack. Edit: My roommate told me that someone who cares about you can "need space" in the event that you're smothering her. I admit I assumed you weren'…
/r/seduction02/10/10 07:49 AM
-1

I'm not convinced you did anything wrong. I'm curious for an update on her reaction tomorrow. Let her text/call you, obviously.
/r/seduction02/10/10 06:54 AM
2

This is oneitis. You need to give up on her and find new prospects. The un-LJBF is a highly advanced maneuver that even the best pickup artist cannot hope to pull off all the time. It's too late for her. You need to keep fighting and not let her death have been in vain!
/r/seduction02/10/10 06:24 AM
6

If she's not the type to actively convince herself to move on, rejecting her will make her more attracted to you. If you're looking to keep attraction going, you don't really need to do anything beyond what would come naturally. Be wary though, if you do this consistently with many people, a few times of the many you will develop a stalker problem.
/r/seduction02/10/10 06:12 AM
1

http://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/djppa/couldnt_get_her_number_should_i_facebook/c10pfje
/r/seduction02/10/10 03:29 AM
2

The problem with LDRs is that levels of attraction between partners is directly proportional to the pain of being away from each other. My answer to your question: you don't.
/r/seduction02/10/10 03:24 AM
2

Who wrote blueprint again? I tried to do a search for it and some Jay Z album came up.
/r/seduction02/10/10 03:16 AM
3

I know that a lot of PUAs have a whole subset of game for dealing with girls who have boyfriends, but honestly I feel like it's scummy. It's my opinion that you ought to steer clear of girls who are spoken for, just out of a respect for your fellow man. I don't like cheating so I don't try to encourage others to do it. Just because you can doesn't mean you should. Note: if the guy is objectively a douchebag (you'll have to make sure to account for your bias though) then go for it, whatever. But …
/r/seduction02/10/10 03:11 AM
3

The difference between a platonic outing and a date is kino.
/r/seduction01/10/10 06:25 AM
6

Advice about power plays, confidence, and frame will certainly carry over. Stuff like ASD probably isn't applicable. Kino is probably easier. I don't know whether negs work as well on men, flattery might work? Probably not. Anyway I've said before in other threads that guys can't really give good advice on how to pick up guys, because what we like and what attracts us are distinct. Similarly, someone was went to /r/twoxchromosomes and asked them what they thought about pickup and it was just a s…
/r/seduction01/10/10 06:21 AM
14

Beta. You're supposed to give this impression without saying it. If you say it then you're not being confident; you're being paranoid. At best this will make her feel bad. More likely it just makes your interaction not fun - like it's a battle.
/r/seduction01/10/10 06:15 AM
7

I think you have your causation wrong. The things we do don't work because they're pickup material. Things are pickup material because they work. If something works (and isn't just a fluke) and it's not "PUA-style interaction" it's because we haven't heard about it yet. Edit (elaboration): if someone who is not a PUA is effective at dating or picking up women or establishing LTRs, chances are he's doing something our models can describe without realizing it. He's not modeling his behavior off of…
/r/seduction01/10/10 02:24 AM
4

That's perfect. You're doing it right.
/r/seduction01/10/10 01:57 AM
8

I'd be flattered.
/r/seduction01/10/10 01:13 AM
8

If she's agreed to stay with you alone she's probably already planning to have sex with you. Kino.
/r/seduction01/10/10 12:56 AM
1

trolling hard Exactly what I mean.
/r/seduction01/10/10 12:43 AM
4

When they call you mean are they smiling? Is it a passing thing or do they sit you down and talk about how they really don't appreciate how you act? There's a difference between "oh you're so mean!" and "I need to talk to you about some of the mean things you've been saying and how I don't appreciate it at all."
/r/seduction30/09/10 10:13 PM
1

I wasn't talking about that comment in isolation. Every post of yours I've seen has been poisonous. To say you're bitter would be like saying 18M hydrochloric acid kind of stings. You're aggressive when it's unnecessary, you don't value other human beings at all, you're insulting, and you're racist. If you're not a troll (you may call it "sarcasm" or "joking," but to me that falls under troll in this case) you really ought to change your outlook on life in general.
/r/seduction30/09/10 10:07 PM
2

Yeah but you don't need to feign never having met her, or change yourself, to execute a full stop. And besides, it sounds like your situation doesn't call for a full stop, just kino.
/r/seduction30/09/10 12:17 AM
2

I really don't think this is necessary. If you have rapport with her it just means you need to make a move, whether she's qualified herself in the past few days or not. Besides, negging someone who wants your approval will tend to elicit a qualification pretty fast if it's really a prerequisite for you.
/r/seduction30/09/10 12:13 AM
2

I believe strongly that you cannot have a legitimate LTR without physical intimacy. Maybe you can swing without sex explicitly, but if she has hangups that prevent you from being intimate with her, I think LJBFing her is the only option, other than just not talking to her again.
/r/seduction30/09/10 12:11 AM
3

I'm not sure I understand your advice. You're faking amnesia?
/r/seduction29/09/10 11:52 PM
1

What are your goals?
/r/seduction29/09/10 11:50 PM
3

Alright I think there are a few things you don't understand. First of all, "start kino" does not mean "poke her in the vagina." The reason you escalate kino is because you're conditioning her to let you past her ASD. You make her comfortable with you touching her. If she shudders at your touch then there is a huge problem. Second, you're using the term DHV incorrectly, which is leading to a confusion of prerequisites. DHV is something you do, subtly, to make a girl interested. Also DHV and quali…
/r/seduction29/09/10 06:53 PM
2

The more you know about a person, the less material they have to qualify to you. I think you're looking at this the wrong way. The goal is not to have the girl qualify to you. The goal is to build rapport, a good sign of which is a tendency to qualify to you. If there's rapport without qualification, for whatever reason, you're not at a disadvantage (other than that it's harder to tell there's rapport). So if you think she's into you start with the kino before it's too late. Don't wait for her t…
/r/seduction29/09/10 06:36 PM
3

Absolutely not. Have an explanation prepared that makes you interesting. Being unique can always be spun into an advantage.
/r/seduction29/09/10 06:23 PM
8

You stop talking to her and focus on someone else. When you go into class, don't sit by her. Sit by other people and open them. You have better things to do than talk to her. If she isn't totally scared off then she will wonder why she isn't good enough anymore and want your attention again. If she is completely gone, then good for you, you're on your way to another attempt with someone else.
/r/seduction29/09/10 05:41 PM
1

I would even go as far while on the date bring up how she has to try a little bit harder to make it up to you . Yeah, accepting that going on a date with her is a method of payment is a bad thing to establish. She's lucky to be going out with you.
/r/seduction29/09/10 04:39 PM
22

You're exactly the right amount of pissed off to tell anyone anything and make it sound like a good idea. That said, I agree with all of this.
/r/seduction29/09/10 04:27 PM
3

I'm pretty sure monk3 is a troll.
/r/seduction29/09/10 07:38 AM
1

I have spent no money on anything pickup-related, ever. If it's a scam, you can very easily subvert it by being involved without spending money. The fact that there have been no financial barriers to entry for me lead me to believe it's not a scam.
/r/seduction29/09/10 12:50 AM
2

I don't know if he said that verbatim, but that is a constant theme in his work.
/r/seduction29/09/10 12:47 AM
8

Treat her like your sister as you're having sex with her... >_>
/r/seduction29/09/10 12:41 AM
0

Thanks. I'll check that out when I don't have a midterm in 25 minutes :P
/r/seduction28/09/10 10:05 PM
3

Herbal browses reddit? Is his account name public knowledge?
/r/seduction28/09/10 07:23 PM
4

This is /r/seduction, not /r/fffffffuuuuuuuuuuuu
/r/seduction28/09/10 07:20 PM
1

Unless he left out important details in his post He left out important details in his post. Your conclusion is an assumption. The negation of your conclusion is an assumption. We don't know. That being said, there was no reason for me not to share, in the (however likely) event that it was relevant.
/r/seduction28/09/10 07:09 PM
2

Approach her like you would anyone else and pretend like you didn't notice the guy. When he comes back deal with him as if he were any other AMOG. The fact that you just saw a guy walk away from her is irrelevant to how she perceives you, unless she saw you lurking and waiting for a chance to strike. That's another reason the three second rule exists. Opportunism is creepy. If you're going to wait for the "perfect opportunity to strike" you have to at least make it look like you just noticed her…
/r/seduction28/09/10 05:03 AM
2

While I was not just waiting for an opportunity to tell someone about how I met my ex girlfriend - in fact I simply found it relevant and felt like sharing - it is true that my story is, by definition, an anecdote. But I ask you this: what is the data behind the entire seduction theory but a collection of many anecdotes? I have never seen a formal paper published by Style, or Mystery, or Durden, or DeAngelo. I haven't seen any double blind trials with control groups. It's all anecdotal. We just …
/r/seduction28/09/10 04:57 AM
1

Don't listen to monkmonkmonk. Seriously.
/r/seduction28/09/10 12:50 AM
1

Oh no I'm sure there are techniques that will almost certainly get a guy to sleep with you. I'm just saying as a guy I'm not exactly impartial. I like flattery, so I'd tell you flattery will do it. But I know girls like flattery too, while I also know that flattery will hurt your chances to pick a girl up (in a lot of cases). Which is why I think it'd be cool to experiment. Talk to other girls about their experiences with guys, particularly the ones who get hit on all the time.
/r/seduction27/09/10 11:20 PM
6

No. Move on. If you happen to bump into her again then try for her number again. If she adds you, great, that's an IOI. But do not add her.
/r/seduction27/09/10 11:15 PM
1

Good point.
/r/seduction27/09/10 11:13 PM
23

Also you can totally say fuck on reddit. No one will mind.
/r/seduction27/09/10 10:52 PM
11

fat - just takes some hard work, and maybe a little more than a week ugly - a well dressed ugly man is an attractive one everything else - we don't exactly have tribal voodoo secrets that instantly land you in girls' pants. We can't be your puppet masters. You have to take charge and have confidence.
/r/seduction27/09/10 10:47 PM
4

If your text doesn't yield fruit don't keep trying. Go back out and sarge other people. If she decides to become interested again then it's a win-win. Also happy birthday :)
/r/seduction27/09/10 10:41 PM
1

Heh, I remember when I explained to my ex that all of her straight male friends would be delighted to sleep with her at best, and were plotting ways to kill me at worst.
/r/seduction27/09/10 10:39 PM
2

Gloves?
/r/seduction27/09/10 10:35 PM
1

aww man that was a huge downer.
/r/seduction27/09/10 10:31 PM
3

Alright so I tried to analyze this here
/r/seduction27/09/10 10:17 PM
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Alright I want to try to analyze this behavior. Because I don't think it's just that the girl gets upset that you didn't make a move or thinks you're a pussy or whatever. No, I think it's a post-opportunity ASD. A girl invites you up to her room. It's clear to her and (hopefully) you that she's inviting you to have sex with her. It is clear to her that she is making this offer to you. She has made an implicit but very forward advance. Now during the entire night, she's into it. Everything seems …
/r/seduction27/09/10 10:15 PM
3

I'm having déjà vu
/r/seduction27/09/10 10:08 PM
1

I don't know if BJJ is the best DHV. Maybe just some boxing, judo.
/r/seduction27/09/10 08:56 PM
2

The best part about reading seddit as a girl is it gives you a window into the intentions behind certain actions of guys. For instance, if a guy comes up to you out of nowhere, and he talks to you, he is most likely interested in you, regardless of how it seems. If he seems innocuous, he's just better at hitting on you. If you want to approach men, and you spend at least ten minutes on your appearance before you head out, then you will most likely be well received. Yes there are techniques that …
/r/seduction27/09/10 08:24 PM
1

Explain.
/r/seduction27/09/10 06:59 PM
4

There was a post in seddit a while back about LJBFing a girl before she does it to you. If she hasn't officially said it you might want to preempt her. It'll send her reeling if you do it right. If you take the option away from her, she'll want the option back. Cat string theory at its finest. It only works if she hasn't decided for sure yet though. Otherwise it just seems silly at best, presumptuous and petty (read: sour grapes) at worst.
/r/seduction27/09/10 06:29 PM
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For the record, Tyler Durden is a massive doucher with a bunch of great ideas as well. Link to the post?
/r/seduction27/09/10 06:12 PM
2

Coming off as gay is an advantage motherfucker. Use that shit. Fly in under her radar. When she says "I thought you were gay" ask her "what gave you that idea? That's dumb," and laugh.
/r/seduction27/09/10 06:10 PM
2

All week.
/r/seduction27/09/10 06:08 PM
1

Then you need to tackle the white whale [NSFL]
/r/seduction27/09/10 06:05 PM
1

I will assume you haven't seen her since high school. (If this is not the case we're talking a LJBF recovery, which is much harder to do.) The first actual substance you want to come out of her mouth is "Oh my god you've really changed since high school." How do you do this? Be confident, control the frame. Basically act the way you would picking up a stranger, but do everything more. Intensity is a good thing. The fact that you know her already gives you a bit more room for error because she's …
/r/seduction27/09/10 05:43 PM
2

Fake it 'till you make it. Waiting on a FR from you bro.
/r/seduction27/09/10 05:27 PM
1

Yeah I'm going to go with letting him get to you enough for you to fight him is proof that he's more alpha than you are. If you're really in control of the frame, nothing he says ought to bother you enough for you to throw a punch. Now don't get me wrong - if he throws the first punch, that's when you knock him out. Head to /r/fitness.
/r/seduction27/09/10 05:21 PM
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No you don't; you're attracted to me. -Mystery's response to "I like your goggles" and "I hate your goggles."
/r/seduction27/09/10 05:01 PM
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She comes over [to my house, alone], we talk for about 2 hours, and everything appears to be going great. I walk her to her car... What.
/r/seduction27/09/10 04:57 PM
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The way I see it is you're supposed to identify the level you can do regularly and take the one above that. If you can do something regularly, doing it again is not a challenge. And it doesn't matter if you fail or succeed, just that you tried.
/r/seduction27/09/10 08:12 AM
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I'm going to use this as the impetus to get started. Count me in.
/r/seduction27/09/10 08:02 AM
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